I Hate Jill Zarin Zip It 5/20/10
Just so everyone knows, I am not a completely heartless bitch, I have been torn over the moral issue here on whether or not to really get into Kelly’s behavior in this blog. Bethenny said it in the episode, a light bulb went off and you realize, there may truly be something wrong with Kelly. Not just, wrong but seriously troubling, wrong. Should I even write a blog about the show? Should we even be talking about this woman at all?
Then it hit me, Bravo put her on Television. What we saw was filmed 6 months ago. Kelly lives in the same building with her ex-husband and father of her children. Kelly has custody of the children. Kelly’s cast mates haven’t called social services, child welfare or anyone else, as far as we know. It seems to me that while she has always been a little “off”, her real insanity comes only when she is directly faced with having to deal with Bethenny. Is she paranoid? It sure seemed like it, but mostly about Bethenny. She was exceedingly rude (zip it), she was unfocused and didn’t seem to realize that cameras were there.
Since this was filmed, we’ve seen Kelly out and about, traveling, with her children and even at Bravo events. I guess what I’m trying to say is I cannot be the moral compass. I do believe that what we saw was a mentally unstable Kelly OR a Kelly on drugs. That being said, I don’t think there is any reason, knowing what we know now, not to write a blog about what we saw. The good, the bad and the ugly. So here goes…
Ramona was the hostess of this entire trip, however, I think we all know that Bravo set everything up, most likely paid for everything and several Bravo “people” joined the ladies on this trip. So while we can go into how rude it is for Kelly to spoil Ramona’s Bachelorette party, I think that Kelly realized, as we all do, that this was a filming opportunity and not something that Ramona spent her hard earned money on for everyone. That certainly does not excuse her behavior. Telling anyone to “zip it” is the height of ignorance. Did you notice that the one person she did NOT tell to “zip it” was Bethenny? Not letting anyone speak at the dinner table was beyond rude. Ramona tried to publicly apologize to Bethenny for the incident on the Brooklyn Bridge, and so she should, since she publically bashed her on the Brooklyn Bridge. Kelly seemed offended by Ramona’s intention.
I found it telling that Kelly knew the entire story of what happened on the bridge, Ramona having told her the entire story. When did Kelly and Ramona become so close that Ramona felt it appropriate to share information like that? I think the story gave Kelly little pings of joy knowing that Bethenny had been filmed while Ramona let her have it. Kelly repeated over and over that “you made her cry”. Kelly said that at least six times that I counted, I think she was happy that Ramona made Bethenny cry and I think Kelly was making a real attempt to ensure that Ramona never got a chance to apologize for that.
Kelly also pointed to Ramona in the kitchen of the villa and said she was a good friend and “good people” and Kelly KNOWS good people..huh? I think at that point Kelly was trying to latch onto someone that would be on her side. Someone that would defend her crazy actions, someone to make Kelly feel like she was part of the group. I honestly believe that the ladies did include Kelly, they weren’t purposely rude to her, and they made every attempt to make it a pleasant trip despite Kelly’s behavior.
Kelly was obsessed on the entire trip about Bethenny’s career, it was clear to me that her ridiculous attempts to downgrade Bethenny’s “title” from Chef to Cook was Kelly’s insecurities. What is the definition of a “chef”? Graduating culinary school seems to be the yard stick that most measure to determine a chef. Knowing Bethenny’s background, watching the show and reading the blogs, clearly all of Bethenny’s cast mates believe her to be a Chef.
We discussed both of the ladies Bio’s that they have listed, Kelly has a long list of her “titles” and what she believes herself to be…Bethenny simply calls herself a “Natural Foods Chef”. This tells us two things. Bethenny is proud of being a chef, and she is very modest. If Bethenny followed Kelly’s lead, she would have a long list of credits to her name. So why did Kelly so determinedly go after the chef title? It was the one thing that Bethenny lists as her career. It is the one thing that Kelly believed would cut Bethenny the deepest.
So the yacht takes the ladies to St. John and an amazing villa. Yes, I said amazing! It was fun to watch them all get excited, just as we watched them boarding the yacht. The ladies were overwhelmed by the luxury of it all!
Kelly’s reaction to Bethenny’s gift goodie bag was disturbing. She called it “impersonal” and sobbing like a baby. It couldn’t have been farther away from impersonal, not only did it include Kelly’s initials, but it had personal items inside. The bag contained things that you would use on a tropical island. Sun hat, sunscreen, sun glasses, all very thoughtful items. What bothered Kelly, was that it was from Bethenny and it had the Skinnygirl logo on it.
As the show attempts to do a little damage control, Kelly calls Jill and Jill provides sound, solid advice. However, reading the ladies blogs on Bravotv.com tells a different story of the many, many phone calls from Kelly to Jill. Jill even interviews that she cannot get a clear thought out of Kelly. Bethenny blogs that she also called Jill after the dinner to inform Jill of their concerns about Kelly’s behavior. I’ll let you all read it for yourselves. My concern was that Jill was going to try to spin her surprise visit to the villa in St John by saying she went there to “rescue” or to “help” Kelly. That will never fly if she tries it. We saw her discussing it with Luann and not once did Jill say she was going there to try to defuse the situation with Kelly.
Kelly’s description of her dream was bazaar to say the least. Dreaming that Bethenny was trying to kill her, then repeating that at the dinner table tells us that the focus of Kelly’s mental issues are directed toward Bethenny. Kelly said several times that Bethenny is trying to kill her, that she has tried to kill her many times before. If anyone else had used the word “literally” as Kelly did, there may be a restraining order issued but I don’t think Kelly knows what that means.
Kelly’s “complaint pad” was a little absurd. I never had anything like that in 4th grade, or any grade for that matter. What did she hope to accomplish with a complaint pad? Thankfully both Ramona and Alex said that they would be talking rather than writing. If only Kelly had written her psychotic thoughts down and threw them away, we may have been watching 5 ladies having the time of their lives on a tropical vacation……..ah dare to dream.
I agree with Ramona, Kelly acted the most “normal” while taking photos of the other ladies. She was very strange with Alex, reading the blogs we learn that the hat and glasses Alex sported and that Sonja commented on were Kelly’s idea. You can’t see Alex’s face at all, was that what Kelly was going for? Does Kelly feel the same way as Jill, that Alex has the body but not the face for modeling? In any case, I doubt those are photos that Alex wants to maintain for prosperity. Luckily Bethenny did not partake in the beach picnic/photo shoot! Ramona wanting photos taken of her ass was equal to a teenage intern photocopying her boobs….oh Ramona!
Bear with my little rant here, a few days ago Kelly made a remark on Twitter about the ladies being rude to the staff during this vacation. Typically I pay her no mind but I wanted to see if she was correct about how each of these ladies treated the staff. I heard Kelly, Bethenny and Alex all saying please and thank you to staff. Ramona seemed to be the worst offender and not once did I hear her say thank you when she was handed a cup of coffee, a glass of wine or a meal was set in front of her. We saw her demand wine at the lunch on the boat, never saying please, we saw her instruct the cook not to put salt in her oatmeal never saying please or thank you. Ramona talks about her troubled childhood and her abusive father, but I said it before and I’ll say it again, by 40 or 50 years old, her behavior is her own and her refusal to use “please” and “thank you” is not a result of her upbringing anymore. I found it rude and while Ramona has redeemed herself a lot this season, I don’t forgive her poor manners. Sonja did not seem to acknowledge staff either.
When Kelly’s steak was still mooing and wrapped in string, (had to be hers, right?) we see Bethenny telling the chef not to worry about it and that it isn’t a “life or death” issue, but it was clear that Bethenny was a tad upset that Kelly happened to get the one steak with a string and was undercooked….augh!
The best part of the dinner was when Bethenny, Alex and Ramona went into the living room and Bethenny yelled, “FU and FU, I TOLD YOU!” adding that this was the best dinner she had ever hosted. I loved that scene! I was dying laughing. Bethenny finally got her clarification, her redemption, her proof that Kelly was paranoid, that Kelly did target Bethenny with her venom and that Bethenny wasn’t the one who was holding any grudges against Kelly.
One of the most disturbing things that I witnessed was Kelly dipping her finger into the glass of water on the table and using that finger to do the sign of the cross. Bear with me if you already know what this means, but I feel the need to explain. In a catholic church, there are typically small water bowls near all entrances. When you walk into the church, it is customary to dip your finger into the water, and do the sign of the cross on your body with that finger. The water is blessed or what we call “holy water”. When Kelly did that with her glass of drinking water at the table, I literally cringed.
If you believe the blogs on Bravotv.com, you believe that we saw only a small portion of the dinner and Kelly’s behavior. You believe that what truly happened that night was far worse than what made it to air on Bravo. You believe that what we saw was tame and some of the least offensive footage they could come up with. You believe that there were actually things that Kelly said and did that even Bravo refused to cut into the final footage.
I was surprised by Luann’s blog. She defended Bethenny and more specifically her “Chef” title, and she even dissed Kelly a little bit. I think it was this blog that sold me on the idea that it was OK to blog about Kelly’s behavior. That, coupled with Kelly’s tweets, which I’ve listed below, where she calls this episode “hilarious”.
Does anyone else feel like Sonja is always trying to tell us something without actually coming out with it? The cat pee thing last episode, this episode she talks about Kelly and her tequila shots. When Kelly said she was excusing herself from the table but would be back to do some shots, Sonja called Kelly out about not doing shots once before when she promised to. Sonja’s blog even talks about this deal with Kelly doing /not doing shots. Sonja also talks about Kelly dragging her out of bed when she shouldn’t have been dragged out of bed. No one should be dragged out of bed, but what happened to make Sonja feel the need to underscore this point? Is Sonja just really over-dramatic? Is Sonja purposely throwing in mysterious issues to make herself more interesting?
When Kelly excused herself, personally I thought she was going to go and compose herself in her room for a bit, similar to the previous time out we saw her impose on herself. This would have been a better decision than what she actually did do. The cameras show her running into the house and into the kitchen. To me, it looked like she was sobbing and running into her room but alas, I was wrong! Kelly decided this would be a good time to make a mad dash for the foods that Kelly doesn’t eat, the processed food that isn’t good for you. Lollipops and Jelly beans? WTF?
Kelly’s behavior was that of a spoiled, ill-mannered 13 year old rebellious kid! It really became out of control when Ramona made an attempt to apologize to Bethenny, Kelly simply would not allow Ramona to speak, she repeated the same thing over and over again. She asked Ramona if she was going to kiss her with tongue. It went downhill from there. I do wonder what, if anything, Bravo did about Kelly’s state of mind on this trip.
A few other observations… Sonja mentions at every opportunity her yachts, her multiple homes and her servants. I know that I should find this annoying and possibly even offensive, but I don’t so much…
Jill is shown ice skating in a ridiculous outfit for a woman of her age. Even the professional skaters were not wearing performance attire, it was workout wear. Clearly Jill was dressed for the cameras and acting for the show in this scene. The coach was not over-reacting in my opinion. These were Olympic athletes practicing for the most important competition in their lives. They have to deal with this insane 40+ year old woman getting in the way of the real skaters with cameras following her around. She’s lucky the guy didn’t slug her, I’m sure he wanted to.
While the lunch with Jill and Luann was rather dull, I’m really glad they showed it, here’s why. This scene clearly shows Jill explaining why she is going to surprise the ladies in St John. Note that she mentioned she would be bringing a gift for Ramona and another gift for Bethenny. She wasn’t going there to rescue Kelly and my concern was Jill would try to spin it that way. Jill added at the end in an interview, “I wouldn’t go anywhere that I wasn’t welcome”. Hahaha this will come into play next week!
Jill also mentioned changing her ticket for her trip, later she threw in that Bobby had a pilot waiting at the airport. As mentioned in the blog, getting to where the ladies are vacationing in the Villa isn’t a straight shot flight from New York and takes a bit of effort. Could it be Jill was feeling less than adequate air time? Things that make you go hmmmm
Jill’s discussion with Luann about Bobby’s advice was a little odd as well. She claims that Bobby told her that Jill shouldn’t cut Bethenny out of her life, but that she should slowly back off. This tells me that the ultimate goal is the same, to remove Bethenny from her life whether it is by cutting her off cold turkey or slowly backing away, in the end they won’t be friends anymore, right?
Jill’s blog is two pages long, one half of the blog is advertising. She uses the blog to not only advertise her book, but now she is using a large portion of her blog to plug her sister’s radio show. Come on!!!
So I’m really interested to hear all of your thoughts on this episode, until Monday’s New Jersey. Wow, I dread blogging New Jersey to be honest, they are insanely tame in comparison to New York, at least right now in the season. See you all then!
As promised, here are tweets from some of the stars of the show…
Kelly’s Tweets during and immediately after the show airing:
the photo shoot was so much fun, everyone looked great
getting ready for a big gift for some amazing fans. i am so proud to have all of you. enjoy the new blogs tomorrow. http://bit.ly/9Y5H0T
i signed up for the show, and love the drama. lifetime is feel good. bravo is drama
i have an obsession for jelly beans and jolly ranchers
Stars Swing Their Troubles Out On the Trapeze | OK! Magazine – The First for Celebrity News: http://bit.ly/a3SuXh via @addthis
check out nymag.com for my interview in the am about the last two episodes.
love to all my tweeterpants. i am crazy about you. i am so glad you loved the show. its not over a few weeks left. sweet dreams
TO: bravoandy this episode was hilarious. i feel badly for all the fans who are concerned, they are lovely sweet people.
i did get help after the trip. i hung out with my amazing family and incredible friends. haters are part of the ecosystem. lol
i had a breakthrough. my gut said keep my distance from women like this. i knew it. i am too sensitive, and human. is that bad?
i never watch the show, i was there, why would i watch?
i loved taking pictures. i enjoyed that.
my bsuit was by ERES and my watch is ROLEX
its not a bunch of women, its these jealous vicious women. i was so embarrassed to watch them tonight.
i am great, after i was with my family and kiddies. out of something bad came something great
sjp is soo sweet. i filmed a guest spot on her hubby’s new pilot
i am sorry that you cant see the reality. watch it again
omg this was episode was soo funny! props to @kikilet and @bethenny you guys make great tv! lol too funny!
i was trying to survive the weekend. it was the roughest weekend of my life.
well said. best show on tv.
literally need glasses. i loved taking those picts of the women, honestly.
so glad yo had a blast with the show. i love all your concern. i was so upset that these women were so mean.shame on me for trusting them
lol. zip it is hilarious, right
those jellybeans from jellybelly are delicious. i was starving. i barely ate
awwww. i love texas. xoxoxoooxox
i signed up for it. i never say it’s bad editing. i love the show, its so fun, and opposite to my real life.
funny i am an amazing mom. i got pushed by these vicious jealous women. i am proud that i got upset
ewwwwww. bite your tongue. how dare you accuse me.
watch what ? this isnt lifetime? you think we all walk around like this, well some of do. lol
i got bullied and i was sick of being aggressed. tell me one person in cyber space that wasnt bullied to crying. these are women.
i was a guest? in the house, on a tv show?
no i sai HADES as in underworld
tv is surreal. lol
TO Kelly, she re-tweeted: i love it that you guys are so fiesty. its sweet. have an opinion.
lol. zip it is good, right
i wish i could talk about the mechanics of the show, but i cant. have fun with it. dynasty without the money or power
nymag.com did a great post interview about tonight. make the brand bigger so i can be more charitable.
the jewelry is soo gorgeous. wait till you see it.
you guys are hilarious. i love it.
yes, i smelled my hair, i put perfume in my hair and not on my skin.
who wants to follow their mundane conversations that make no sense. helllllllooooooooo
i love luann’s song and that fact that she is doing something different
it was HADES on that trip. i was stuck in a bad improv class in HADES> lol
i thought these women were going to be nice. they were going after me every second.
stressful for me, yes. creep fest
my children are amazing. its tv, have fun with it. i was so creeped out by this trip. it was so disgusting
the jewelry is soo hot
the jewelry is avail at intermix in june
i hate when the women promote their stuff on the show. its soo cheesy. if it were good, magazine would be talking about it
ahh you want that cheap bag that was being promoted on a show? ewwww. that promotion is so cheesy
you sit in a room with these sharks and see how you swim. they hate people who are genuine and nice. its makes me sad
i dont change my thoughts, they talk in circles they were also mad for i was offered a show> hehe
who likes the feather earring i am wearing in the interview. its from my new line and its 100% for FEEDING AMERICA
i wanted to leave after the first luch on the boat. i knew i was in for it, and they are so highschool.
get complaints pads for the house, then people can throw away silly complaints
when people are ganging up on you adn you’re alone, what are you suppose to do?
its a show, but eveyone has been the girl who everyone gangs up on. i was sick of it.
i agree this is the most painful episode to watch. you should have been there with them all ganging up on me. everyone has been there.
no just fed up with all the games people play to get “airtime.” i am real and get my feelings hurt, so what?
thank you everyone for asking me. i was so fed up ith being jabbed and attacked the entire trip. it was so toxic.
Went to “generations collide” at scott murphys gallery. Danny your work is brillant.
Hope you have fun watching the show. Grab a corona, and enjoy
my blood type is corona, not pinot. its cheap wine. id rather have good beer.
check out my blog kellykillorenbensimon.com/blog for what i really do or my youtube.com channel kellykbensimon
@kikilet: @kimkardashian: People love to hate what they can not achieve!
i like that. i am going to sit there, like always and let them go kookie. they love it, i hate it.
zip it, off the charts, and lemons into lemonade. hilarious
Or maybe you should bring @KimKardashian awith you!!! Everyone knows you don’t mess with a Kardashian!! Lol xo
i dont want to win, i jut want to get out unscathed. i am too real and nice for these women.
its a tv show, not a game show
true, that’s why they hate me for i never ask them anything.
i hate arguing. and they argue in an unpredictable way. do u ever see me gossip to another housewife? i asked for help to jill
these women are vicious/ jealous. they hated me before i got on the show. haters are part of the ecosystem. just laugh
we need a reunion plan. if you dont want these women to win, give me advice.i will use it verbatim and name u on the show. tell your friends
ok, you guys rock, but i have a huge day. rescuing the sweet new lab “Chief” she’s coming home tomorrow. wait ill you see her
huh? who funded the trip?
i learned to trust my instincts. these women need to attack me for attention. i couldnt take the banter after all season.
Sarah Jessica Parker has donated 3 pairs of shoes to @ShoeRevolt Join the cause 🙂
i signed up for the kookiness. i know what i am on, and who i have to endure.
SNL and kristen wig are humor. that is snarky mean talk.
It’s all a gang up, and mean.
shes stands for everything i hate: user, aggressive, selfish, plays people. i like smart, honest, loving, and giving people
go to sleep. lol. xoxooxoxxo you guys rock.
I have never endured such a difficult time with four women.
Trust your instincts.
Looking for the rest? Don’t bother, that’s it!
Jill’s Tweets –
@bravoandy..tell SJP that I will always love her and don’t be scared of Gloria..she is a pussycat!
@johnnygweir had his cameo tonight! I luv ya Johnny! Hope you are happy!
Have to say Ramona did look great in a bikini.
This is the most painful episode to watch. Are you ok @kikilet ?
Bethenny’s Tweets –
Buckle up everyone.it is going to be a bumpy ride tonight.I can’t wait for ur comments!
Who else is SUPERexcited for @Bethenny Getting Married? in 3 weeks?!Raise your paw