I Hate Jill Zarin Twitter Update May 28, 2010

I HATE JILL ZARIN             Weekend Update                            May 28, 2010

By now, you probably all have taken a look at Toni’s blog to see what the story is behind the Twitter war that involved Ashley of The Real Housewives of New Jersey.    If you haven’t seen it yet, here is the link

http://imstilltoni.com/2010/05/28/411-the-mystery-tweets/#comment-41

As I mentioned in my blog, many people had opinions about Ashley’s post of the situation.  Some tweeted with pleas for Ashley to please remove it, others were nasty to Ashley in their demands for her to remove it and still others tweeted Jacqueline telling her what Ashley had done and asking Jac to intervene and have Ashley remove the tweet.

As many of you noted, Ashley is 19 and while, in my opinion, an immature 19 year old, still considered an adult and Jacqueline has little to no control over the child.  I reviewed most, if not all, of the tweets to Ashley and to Jacqueline and found only one person in support of Ashley’s actions.  This person, I will call Amanda (not her real name) was tweeting frantically, tweeting to Ashley telling her that she could post whatever she wants and she doesn’t have to listen to all of these people who are asking her to remove the posts.  Amanda tweeted to Jacqueline telling her that people were wrong to involve Jacqueline and she should ignore everyone.  She tweeted to many of the people who were asking Jacqueline to intervene calling them names and using foul language. 

In all honesty, I didn’t necessarily agree with people involving Jacqueline, clearly she has no control over Ashley.  I certainly wouldn’t send tweets to them calling them names and berating them either.  What I did was to tweet Ashley and I told her that the classy thing to do would be to remove the tweets.  When she did, I tweeted her again thanking her and telling her she was a class act for removing it. 

At that Amanda went into a rage and began to tweet wildly to everyone and anyone with foul language and insulting people as fast as her fingers could type.  Then she tweeted Ashley telling her to restore the tweets, “put them back up” Amanda told Ashley. 

Then another tweeter we’ll call Sandra, tweeted to Amanda, “how would you feel if that was your child who was being treated that way?”   Well Amanda completely lost it and went berserk!  Apparently Amanda is not a mother and is having trouble conceiving a baby.  (a fact that apparently Sandra was aware of)  What followed on Twitter was very ugly, Amanda was attacking anyone who said anything and her language was offensive! 

Yes, I should have shut up, I should have stayed out of it, but it had gotten out of hand and so I tweeted to Amanda, “You really should calm down, you are way out of line now”.  Have you ever told an irate person to “calm down”, I know better, I’ve been trained in dealing with irate customers, etc “calm down” is a big no no!   I have since learned that Amanda is unstable and has huge anger issues. 

Amanda is our most recent troll.  Again, not her real name but as most of you know, when you register to leave a comment here, I end up with your IP address.  The person who logged on with the name “Bitch” earlier today is the one and only Amanda. 

From the day that this erupted on Twitter I have had Amanda blocked on Twitter and to be honest, had completely forgotten about her, it had been over a week without a peep so I thought all was quiet.  When I found out through our troll’s IP address that it was Amanda, I went onto Twitter and looked at her most recent tweets only to find that she had been talking about me and several other people on Twitter all this time, tweeting away about many of us who were asking Ashley to remove that tweet.  Amanda was hardest on people who had tweeted Jacqueline but she had been responding to many of my tweets all this time even though I hadn’t seen them because I had her blocked.   Now that’s a stalker for you!  Anyway bear with me as we wait this thing out, she may be back, who knows.  I am going to do what I can to avoid her visits but if you see anything odd like that again, please don’t worry about it, I will delete it until she gets bored.  If she does come onto the site, she will come to attack me and not any of you and of course I’ll delete it as soon as possible. 

I feel like I owe everyone an apology for having to deal with this lunatic, but at the time, I did what I felt was right in trying to protect a minor from being harassed on the internet.  I know it may sound dramatic and may be rare but kids are taking drastic action when being harassed on the web and I didn’t think what Ashley did was right.  And so for my part in all of this mess, I do apologize.  If I had to do it all over again, knowing what I know now, I would have never engaged Amanda.  She isn’t stable and her anger is beyond anything I’ve ever seen on Twitter or maybe anywhere. 

Thank you for indulging me in this story, I wanted you all to know what was going on. 

Twitter has been quiet, here’s the most recent update:

Kelly hasn’t tweeted anything in 6 hours, do you think she’s going through withdrawal?  Or do you think maybe she dropped her cell phone into a toilet?

Jill hasn’t tweeted anything for 23 hours….not since she “yelled” at Andy Cohen for not showing Jerry Seinfeld the entire clip of her call with Bethenny. 

Ramona has been very quiet, she only tweeted about her appearance tonight on HSN to sell her jewelry.

Bethenny, nothing for the past 14 hours

Sonja, oddly enough has recently gone through twitter looking for people who are posting to her but not spelling her twitter name correctly and has been tweeting them with the correct spelling of her name.

Jennifer Gilbert tweeted about an hour ago about her great dinner….do you care?  Me either!

Luann….(if you have recently eaten, don’t read any further) Says “the cat’s out of the bag, somebody leaked my video” and of course posts the link to her video…..gag me!

So, we will just be staying here on this site, at least until RHONY season is over.

Until next time…probably tomorrow  LOL 

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383 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Twitter Update May 28, 2010

  1. Kat says:

    I have no sympathy for Ashley. None.

  2. ridicurhony says:

    Wow, thanks for the info Lynn. No need to apologize – I don’t blame you for stepping in. Hopefully she’ll stay away.

  3. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    Lynn I think you did the right thing and I respect you for it.
    Re: the troll don’t worry she will soon find something else worth her time and rage.

  4. anniieee says:

    you rock…… i love this site. go lynn go

  5. HD says:

    I’m lost…maybe I did not read it right, what is wrong with the Twitter thing from Ashley?

  6. Kat says:

    Is the troll “Amanda” also LA Woman and Audry+#s ?
    Just changing names like underwear is it?
    I’d like to meet some people face to face. I’m more bite than bark.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Kat, you are half right.

      LA woman is actually not a troll, she had been sending me messages on Facebook wanting to talk about the housewives, a LOT of messages, so I directed her here. She sent me an apology on Facebook for “the trouble” she caused and promised to return only to read the blogs but not post any comments.

      You have the 2nd name correct….she also changes her twitter name often because so many block her.

  7. Char12 says:

    Whoever Amanda is it sounds like Ashley should stay away from her. she doesn’t need friends like that.

  8. Squirrels says:

    Ignoring the trolls really does work.

  9. Squirrels says:

    could Ashley’s secret santa be Caroline?

  10. Adios Lunatic says:

    Hey, NO ONE calls our internet blogging BFF Lynn names and gets away with it!!!!

    You did the right thing with Ashley Twittergate, Lynn. Unfortunately, that tends to set the escapees off. She’ll go away. In the meantime, are you okay? That’s a lot of stress along with being #1 on Jill’s list!

  11. Char12 says:

    BTW Lynn, I think you did the right thing too. We’ve all heard the horror stories of what kids who are bullied do sometimes. If I’d seen those tweets I probably would have done the same thing you did.

  12. Squirrels says:

    The I hate jill zarin site is still #1 on Google. Gotta love it 😀
    Keywords – Jill Zarin

  13. lillybee says:

    Great job Lynn, and thank you.

  14. Kokuanani says:

    My copy of Entertainment Weekly just arrived, and imagine my surprise upon finding it has TWO items on RHONYC:

    1) the “listing” for 6/3:

    LuAnn performs “Money Can’t But You Class.” Auto-Tune hides its face in shame.

    2) a listing for “Bethenny Getting Married:”

    I’ve always thought Bethenny could sustain her own show without the other nut-job NYC Housewives. So I’m loving the chef (sorry, Kelly!) in her element, bickering about fist bumps with fiance Jason, griping about wedding plans and, in a vulnerable moment, talking about her father int herapy. Best of all, no Jill to rain on her parade.

    Bahaha. What a great slam at Jill. Someone at EW must be reading this blog!!

    • otaypanky says:

      Fabulous…Hope Jill sees it. Would she get a google alert regarding this?

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      I’m really looking forward to Bethenny’s show. NO Jill, no LuAnn, no KooKoo Kelly – YAY!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I love it! That means Bravo has released some of Bethenny’s show to press for reviews…EW gave her a good one! Why did they have to mention Luann..yuck!

  15. Morgaine Swann says:

    No need to apologize, Lynn. If you’re going to have a blog, you’re going to have trolls. Even the most innocuous actions can provoke one. You did the right thing, defending that minor. Heaven knows, somebody needs to defend the poor thing.

  16. otaypanky says:

    What did bitch post? Who read it?

  17. A former Jill fan says:

    Ramona said she was going to nap earlier today since she’ll be on HSN at 2 am est so that’s probably why she’s been quiet.

    After yesterday’s episode, I quit following Sonja today on twitter because she was retweeting all kinds of messages by her new fans. 🙂 I didn’t want to have to go through all that.

    Jill got over 690 comments (many negative) on her facebook after she started whining last night and maybe she’s being quiet so viewers will lay off and she won’t have to pay thousands to the person who hunts and deletes these messages. 😛

  18. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    @otaypanky I read what Bitch wrote, she was a downright NASTY.

  19. A former Jill fan says:

    Ashley was dead wrong to go after a minor and you did what you thought was right and should never feel sorry for it afterward.

    Bravo needs to seriously rethink the NJ show, just like the jill and kelly issues. And OC and Atlanta, too! We don’t want trashy tv. We want interesting women doing interesting things. If we wanted to watch trashy tv, I’m sure there are a few other channels we could switch to for sensationalistic garbage.

  20. TNTreality says:

    No one could fault you for standing up for a child, Lynn.

  21. m293131 says:

    I am surprised that I missed that one but I would have done the same thing that u did. My mom instincts always kick in and try to protect the child. I hate to see any child bullied or the underdog. You can tell that you are a loving mom. Luv ur blogs

  22. LynnNChicago says:

    Thank you everyone for your support! You have no idea how great it feels….I get the “warm fuzzy” terminology now 🙂 lol

    I’m out for the night…don’t forget to HATE Jill Zarin!

    Love you all!!!

    • DarkSonnet says:

      No need for apologies, Lynn. You do a great job with your blogs and managing this site.

      It is much appreciated and I’d like to thank you for doing it.

    • ImToula says:

      OH Lynn….please!…stop!….feelings are so 1979!

  23. error 404 says:

    Hmm… how come whenever Ally tweets something, people speculate Jill is behind it, but when Ashley tweets something against her Mom’s public enemy, people assume Jac must know nothing about it? What?

    So far, Sonja seems to be the ‘housewife’ not to sue her own daughter as a pawn in her public adult fights with co-stars. So far.

  24. happee1 says:

    Gone for a couple of weeks and look at what all I missed! And I’m not even close to catching up yet.. Thanks for making a mediocre season of RHONY so much more entertaining to watch.. would be so boring without u LynnNChicago 😉

  25. otaypanky says:

    Just love that Sonja has taken to Alex and she probably will find it difficult to tolerate Jill. Jill has looked down her nose at Alex for quite a while now.

  26. Morgaine Swann says:

    Cute new pics of Bethenny. Motherhood seems to agree with her:

    http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2010/05/28/bethenny-frankel-makes-postpartum-look-easy/

  27. Olivia says:

    I think that someone mentioned earlier that Jill’s daughter was graduating today and from there they were all heading out to the Hamptons for the weekend.

    The very fact that I remembered this is beginning to frighten me.

  28. Morgaine Swann says:

    Real Life Lessons from watching the Real Housewives:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/real-life-lessons-from-wa_b_593374.html

    This is hysterical – she slams Kelly, among others.

  29. otaypanky says:

    This is hysterical. Good recap and some of the photos with captions are way funny!
    http://www.bsideblog.com/2010/05/real-housewives-photocap-housewives-on-ice/

  30. Olivia says:

    What this Ashley did to poor Christine is absolutely childish. That poor child has enough on her plate having to live with Danielle which should be reason enough to leave her alone.

    Jacqueline’s responsibility ended long before this series started. Ashley seems to be somewhat out of control and has been involved in an altercation already with Danielle that has become physical and for which she faced charges. At 19 this twit is responsible for her own actions but it is interesting to know how she is supporting herself since she does not have a job.

    According to last weeks’s episode where Jacqueline is discussing her frustration with Caroline, she mentions that Ashley is living with a friend and the friend’s family. Who is paying for the use of her cellphone? Who is putting gas in her car? Who is providing her spending money? Why is she allowed to keep the car that Chris bought her? Whose computer is she using to berate others on her blog?

    It would seem to me that the wisest course of action would be to cut off any access to funding as long as she is intent on “being on her own” and let her take the bus, apply for a job at McDonald’s, go to a laundramat, and shut off any other funds that make her life so comfortable.

    As a parent I can understand the worry that Jacqueline has in seeing her out there on her own but unfortunately this is the path that Ashley has chosen so let her make do. No one owes Ashley a living when she refuses to take any accountability for her behavior.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      Ashley is living off the money she earns from being on the show. That’s why she shows up for 30 seconds every episode.

    • vilzvet says:

      All good points….love your posts Olivia.

  31. boston02127 says:

    @Olivia ~~ She’s going to India for graduation. I graduate June 14 and will probably get a book bag!

  32. boston02127 says:

    Lynn~~~I know you’re logged off for the night but I just wanted to leave you a quick message regarding Ashley. Growing up this was always told to me: Take the high road because the low road is full. That’s exactly what you did. ^5 to you!

  33. lillybee says:

    Thanks for the links, friends.

  34. SassafrasDonna says:

    WOW! Thanks for all the info., Lynn. I have a question though. I use a computer that technically belongs to a family member in my house. I only go under my names and such for Twitter and sites but is that the same as being a “troll”? I promise I am a real housewife, with 2 children, and I live in AL. 🙂 I’m not trying to be a smart ass either, I’m just curious. Btw, I quit following Ashley b/c of her tweets and the way she talked to fans.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      Being a troll just means you go onto a site to cause disruption and insult people. There’s nothing wrong with signing in under your own name on someone else’s computer.

  35. boston02127 says:

    @ Olivia~~~Did you see the posts from Jacqueline’s and Ashley’s tweets that I posted yesterday?

    Jacqueline tweeted: We gave away our old toilets that look new. We put them in a rental house which is Chris’ parents old house.

    Ashley’s tweet: We got new toilets today! There so comfortable.
    blah blah blah ( I’m doing the blah part, I think you know where I’m going)

    I think Jacqueline set her up in a house. Who get rids of a toilet one day only to find out their relative gets a new toilet the same day?

    • Olivia says:

      Or she is back living at home among the luxury once again which may be part of her probation terms.

      The new toilets were purchased by Jacqueline. They got rid of the old ones.

      And twittering this information? Who cares?

  36. A former Jill fan says:

    As far as we know Jacqueline doesn’t have a history of deception like Jill does. Jill plays the sympathy card every chance she gets. That is why many doubt most anything Jill does or says. When you’re sneaky, underhanded, backstabbing, gossip-mongering much of what you do and anything that is connected to you, is suspect.

    I watched the first season of NJ and Jacqueline seems as different from Jill in character as oil is to water.

    It’s just not a far stretch of the imagination to think that Jill could do something like that.

  37. A former Jill fan says:

    A troll is someone who causes trouble; a pixie causes mischief. 😉

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Interesting details provided in that link. It sounds realistically detailed rather than something created.

      Sonja indicated in one of the links posted here tonight that she had locked her door. Alex has indicated that the place/everyone was secured after things evidently went ballistic.

      I thought it was interesting that Jill indicated that she “had seen Kelly at the airport through the glass”. She said this while still at the villa with Bawby.
      Nobody responded to her statement. ??

    • Kat says:

      From link, “so remote that Kelly had no way of escaping until she was declared clinically insane by a Bravo-mandated EMT and airlifted out ”

      Damn. I can’t how she has escaped help.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Holy cow. Airlifted. How come no one else mentioned this. Kellamity can backtrack and blame all she wants but it was her who was airlifted out. I wonder if they put a straaight jacket onher. Just asking? Hahaha.

  38. A former Jill fan says:

    boston, you’ll one day have a career that you can be proud of and have made all on your own. One day, you can pay for your own trip to India or wherever you’d like to go. When that day comes, you can look back and be proud of your accomplishments.

    In the meantime, make good use of that tote bag! 🙂 A good tote bag can take you far!

  39. Olivia says:

    Gotta love it! Countess Lu Ann is taking a beating over at HuffPo for the video of her and the song. The comments are hysterical!

    As for her pumping the class crapola, her kids must be delighted seeing her laying across a bed with a bunch of men not much older than her son while sashaying all over the place in a wig and a dress where her boobs show more talent for playing peek a boo.

    If anyone deserves to be beat up in the press, Countless Lu Ann is my choice for this week.

    • vilzvet says:

      I am wondering if she would have taken this career path if she was never left by the Count?! I don’t think so!!!

  40. Just a Commoner says:

    Lynn-

    here’s the banner I made for the other site. Feel free to do whatever you want with it!

  41. lillybee says:

    Very nice.

  42. Morgaine Swann says:

    The guy who wrote this recap seems to be taking the same jelly beans as Kelly.

    http://gawker.com/5550230/real-housewives-of-new-york-jill-fell-down

    • liptontb says:

      Morgaine: I’ve been reading this guy’s columns forever. He’s a scream. I always sit here in awe after reading his recaps thinking WHAT is this dude on (and where can I get some?). LOL
      Check out some of his RHNY blogs from last season. He’s got this whole fantasy thing going about Luann a.k.a. Crackerjacks.

    • vilzvet says:

      Thanks for that link. It has great stuff in the older stories too. I noticed how pretty that Ethiopian princess is. It mentioned that LuAnn was separated 3 months at the time of the email? Didn’t know that…also gives the date of the Kelly Meltdown as Nov. 21st apparently.

  43. Morgaine Swann says:

    Lynn – you’ve probably seen this, but just in case I’ll post it because it talks about this site.

    http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/shows/rhnyc3/commentary/cl-07-p1.html?submit=++Jill+Zarin+Is+Circling+The+Drain+Commentary+by+Candace+Lind

  44. Felicia says:

    Love love love this blog – been following for a while and I’m finally jumping in. I’m stupid addicted to this show and I’m so happy to how found others like me. Thanks so much for the links…they are gold! I don’t do twitter but I feel like I’m still right in there ’cause of you guys, which is kinda awesome.

    You know I actually find myself unable to sleep at night because I’m so annoyed at Kelly. Yeah I know…I’m prob the one who now needs professional help.

    Glad to be here and xoxo to you all!

  45. lillybee says:

    Thank you , Morgaine, very funny reading. BTW, I love your name.

  46. KookADoodleDo says:

    Thanks for the link Morgaine!
    The article stated that the girls went away to Scary Island from 11/19 to 11/22/09. To find out what Jill was so busy with, that she couldn’t go to Scary Island, read her Twitter posts during that time period:

    -Packing for vacation. I hate this!
    1:21 PM Nov 22nd, 2009 via web

    -.Best day spa at Elizabeth arden . Thanks for everything!
    12:03 PM Nov 21st, 2009 via txt

    -Slept for hours! Finally rested. Taking Ally to Elizabeth Arden for Massage and facial today. Mother Daughter… http://bit.ly/08WRHoQ
    6:18 AM Nov 21st, 2009 via Facebook

    -on way to #kodakgallery meeting . Town hall meeting!
    10:44 AM Nov 19th, 2009 via txt .

    -With Deborah Roberts @nickelodeontv http://twitpic.com/q3mn7
    5:57 AM Nov 19th, 2009 via Echofon .

    -@flyingtv on way @nickelodeontv for family research symposium
    5:23 AM Nov 19th, 2009 via Echofon

    -Morning tweets! Up early getting Glammed up for business symposium then off to Kodak headquarters to speak to #newkodakgallery. Excited!
    3:00 AM Nov 19th, 2009 via web

    -touring city with my Kodak camera! http://twitpic.com/q160t
    8:19 PM Nov 18th, 2009 via web

    -touring city with my Kodak camera! http://twitpic.com/q160t
    2:30 PM Nov 18th, 2009 via Echofon

  47. Smompy says:

    Lynn, I like the (possibly) new website and think it seems very user-friendly for the most part, but wherever you decide to go, I will follow. As will most everyone else here, I’m sure. My only request is that you opt for whatever site is easiest to manage and least stressful for YOU – to heck with what’s easiest for us commenters. Of course I’m only saying this for selfish reasons. I’ve witnessed other bloggers who’ve rapidly & unexpectly attracted a whole lot of followers and before long felt obligated to keep up with the demands of their own popularity, so much so that the whole blogging experience eventually felt like an annoying chore to them, so they abruptly called it quits. I don’t want to see you get so overwhelmed or burned out that you end up doing that. I want you to keep blogging like this for as long as possible, therefore I say you should go for whatever option is most personally convenient for you, yourself.

    “The guy who wrote this recap seems to be taking the same jelly beans as Kelly.
    http://gawker.com/5550230/real-housewives-of-new-york-jill-fell-down

    OMG, thank you for posting that! I hadn’t visited gawker for quite a while, and so I got caught up on the RHoNYC recaps while I was there tonight. Richard Lawson may appear to be like Kelly at first glance, but he’s actually an hilarious satirist. He’s made up these wild back-stories for all the gals and writes about them as if he were inside their own minds. LuAnn, for instance, is a chain-smoking, lowlife, grifting prostitute who’s experienced the seemy underbelly of every trailer park in the northeast and has had numerous run-ins with the law, while Ramona uses pixie dust and is building a giant clock on the moon, etc., etc. Once you get into them, his recaps are very, very funny.

    Oh, and Lynn, you don’t owe anyone any apologies. Trolls are ubiquitous and you did nothing wrong. I don’t tweet at all so I missed seeing Ashley’s nonsense firsthand. Although I hate to admit this, even after I read that other site’s “explanation” of what went down between Ashley and the others mentioned, I still have no idea what happened there. The Princess Charlotte stuff went right over my head. But regarding Ashley’s ugly incident, it’s probably better if I remain ignorant anyway.

  48. KookADoodleDo says:

    http://prettyontheoutside.typepad.com/

    “Countess Luann’s new video”

    In a plot twist that I think only ‘The Sixth Sense’ director M. Night Shyamalan could have conceived, Countess Luann of The Real Housewives of NYC has reinvented herself this season as a pop star complete with music video. Why not? If Kim Zolciak can do it, then any Real Housewife has that potential. I’m waiting for Ramona Singer’s “Pinot gave me crazy eyes.” And perhaps Alexis Bellino’s “They call me Jesus Barbie.” In the meanwhile, enjoy the blurred audio/ visual atrocity. Don’t bother rubbing your eyes, they filmed Luann with the Rupaul/ Cher/ Barbara Walters cam.

    • Kat says:

      I need help finding my eyes, they jumped their sockets and ran bloodied and shrieking from the room. My brain is screaming to follow!
      Blech!
      To me Lu’s “singing” attempt is an epic fail.

    • error 404 says:

      It’s so “Smelly cat” it’s hilarious!

    • morning says:

      I finally watched the video (but couldn’t bear to turn on the volume.) My two thoughts 1) her daughter must be mortified and 2) why couldn’t they do anything about her swimsuit tan line? Guess that wasn’t what I was supposed to get out of it.

  49. kind of shocked says:

    I apologize in advance….I have been a long time Twitter member, but haven’t logged on in a very long time. Just tonight, I got an email to let me know someone else on Twitter was following me. As I mentioned, I hadn’t “tweeted” in well over six months so I was surprised anyone would follow me.

    I clicked on his/her screenname and all tweets were addressed to LynnNChicago so I clicked there and that brought me to this blog. Again, I sincerely apologize if my remarks are unwelcome….I saw references to “trolls” earlier and I certainly have no intention of being a troll, but I wanted to add my opinion to this blog although it likely won’t be well received.

    The title “I HATEJILL ZARIN.” Gosh, “hate” is such a strong word….and especially in the context of a woman you have likely never met and whether you admit it or not….you are reacting to a 44 minute episode that was taped a good seven months ago. Were it not for the twitter follower, I wouldn’t have sought out a blog about “hating” anyone….especially a cast member for a Bravo reality show, seen by less than 3 million viewers a week. I live in Manhattan, home to 9 million people so if the viewership is 3 million nationwide, that’s a sad local number.

    Truly, I have watched since the beginning of the OC shows, and since NYC began showing, I really never liked Jill. Other people saw her and Bethenny as some snarky super-hero dynamic-duo when they disliked Alex and Simon for being pretentious in season one. This season, though, Alex is shot mostly without Simon because she lost her day job and is available to film without her husband, and suddenly everyone finds Alex palatable. She can even manage a vacation that her hubby stays home! YAY!

    This likely same group of viewers who yucked it up a few months ago when Bethenny had her own little videoblog on Bravo immitating “Silex” and her final word on Simon was that he was “revolting.” Wasn’t it Bethenny, last season, mocking Alex and Simon to dare write a children’s book (or as it turned out, a guide to having children in NYC or Brooklyn or wherever?) while Bethenny had to rehash Johann stabbing her then-boyfriend’s hamburger? Didn’t Bethenny accuse Alex and Simon of “leaking” having a book deal, when she was quick to point out in the press, that they didn’t have a publisher and their kids were not well behaved? Ahhhhhh. All is forgiven!! At least Bethenny didn’t storm off stage on the first reunion because Alex had posed naked for Craiglist photos in Simon’s hotel (South of the Border)….wait!! That was Ramona!! But Ramona has changed so we only hate Jill now on this blog. REALLY?? Just because Alex and Simon can now be separated for “girls night out,” a limo driver isn;t ruining the f’cking surprise” and no one is glaring across the opening night at the Met–desperately trying to make new connectios or sitting in an inflatable pool….Silex is cool?

    Now that Jill has been a public idiot (and make no mistake, Jill always was…..I just have a hard time figuring out why it only became clear when she separated from Bethenny…who had made more enemies of the castmembers) suddenly everything Bethenny said about Silex and Ramona is okay? This blog would certainly have a reader think so….. All fault now goes to Jill.

    No one here would have had the guts to hate Jill when she was exactly the same for two seasons, as if she owned the show and life revolved around the phrase “Zarin Fabrics,” while Bethenny backed her 110% by making the snarky comments. That seems so bizarre.

    As for the NJ clan, I have always DVR’d RHoNJ because I find it/the family members soooooooo boring so this entry about Jacqueline’s daughter and (poor) Danielle’s daughter made me sad.

    I have always felt badly for Danielle’s girls, but please know for the majority of people who missed the “twitter war of words,” it isn’t part of any episode that documents the insanity forever so to recap twitter messages and write entire blogs about what happened on Twitter….it seems so gratuitous, especially when folks are claiming to be upset as a mom, yet rehash events that were better left unnoticed.

    If you have a blog that you post everywhere and make an entry about this small twitter episode, you now shared it with readers who would never have known if they only followed the show. It’s pepetuating a really bad incident and shaing it beyond what most would have known because besides knowing Jacqueline’s daughter has a bad attitude and a sad purple fedora this season…who would really follow HER on Twitter? Thanks for making sure everyine knew about Christine’s heartache….

    Danielle’s ridiculous interference with Christine’s prom date (and whatever Jacqueline could or couldn’t do) would hardly be known outside Franklin Lakes if there wasn’t your blog entry dedicated to it. Why are you spreading the utter misery about Chrustine’s prom? As a mom, would you want your daughter’s heatache going viral?

    Another thing I picked up on, before I even got to the blog and its contents tonight…(courtesy of my new twitter follower)….I was forwarded a petition sent to Andy Cohen asking to get rid of Jill.

    Please note your “hatred” only encourages Bravo to keep Jill around….. as long as she decides to put up with the well deserved criticism, Bravo is frothing at the mouth to keep her.

    Think about it…..before Andy Cohen was even on Twitter, Tamra Barney instigated the “Naked Wasted” BS episode. According to Andy’s Bravo blog, they had never received so many negative emails. Did Tamra get fired? NO! It was a lightning rod and Bravo knew it. Tamra knew what she did—and the viewers were well aware. It was “great tv” to pit Gretchen and Tamra against each ther and you all have seen Andy’s moderating skills at the reunions. He LOVES telling each housewife how much the viewers have objected to their behavior (Vicky, in general gets hate mail that he repeats and yet she isn’t fired, Lynn and her drinking teen girls and evictions—it’s great tv). Who has EVER been fired based on a petition? You are fooling youself.

    Now ask yourself, Lynn, about next season’s RHoDC. ….. What do you know, NOW, about the White House party crashers/the Salahis?

    Well, we all knew at the time of their White House faux pas, the Salahis were “audtioning,” but not yet hired for the Real Housewives DC edition. As a result of their stupid wannabe activities….guess what? They were HIRED for next season—although we all know about the various lawsuits against them and the fact that they are broke poseurs. Bravo loves the controversy! They were even spotted last week, at the site fo ranother White House dinner with the Mexican President, and they were wearing the same clothes they wore for the crash appearance and they had a film crew in tow. Just WHO do you think was filiming these losers??? BRAVO!!

    What in the world is Jill Zarin “hated” for? I never liked her or her fabric plugging nonsense, but you are mad about her feud with Bethenny? Initially—-yes! That’s all this blog had to run with…

    It was AFTER this blog was established that Jill was stupid enough to boost her own Amazon reviews and in addition, she did tweet Bethenny had a boy, when we now know she had a girl. Has Jill committed hate crimes or anything to the level of being hated, as you repeat ad nauseum? As someone who never liked her and thought she felt she was the Queen Bee….as I admitted, I never liked her, from the first episode so I feel neutral enough–in my dislike always—to ask what changed for you to HATE her enough to post a blog about “hating Jill Zarin?” Think carefully because you chose to HATE her before she actually commited most of the acts you want to list.

    I happened to have liked Bethenny even less only because she served as Jill’s attack agent from the day she joined the cast (and I also dislike Bethenny because she has been part of the “reality genre” enough to have never been REAL…but that’s just my opinion as I don’t care for either)

    If you followed season one, Bethenny was rarely in it. Why? I think there were only 7 or 8 shows and Bethenny joined the cast very late…definitely after the show started filming. Why?

    Bethenny declined the show and Jill was the one who “insisted” she join, and this is according to Bethenny. (This is all well documented on the Huffington Post, a source I saw earlier in the blog so I’m definitely not pulling an insider information stunt as I have none, but Bethenny herself was a guest blogger and my info is based on what Bethenny posted on HuffPo).

    I also saw an earlier post by Lynn N Chicago stating the only true cast members are Alex, Ramona, Bethenny, Sonja, and Jen. Ummmmm…Jen? Her two episodes of planning the ice capades make her a legit cast member and in the recap in the B-side blog article recommended upthread, he mentioned that Jen’s only presence was her ridiculous wardrobe (gray merengue top?) at the lunch where Kelly tries to defend herself. When and IF Jen is holding an apple in the opening scene (instead of petitioning Facebook for a spot on the showt) let’s discuss her as a “character” and hold her up as someone better than those you find convenien to “hate. ” Citing Jen doesn’t MAKE her part of the show….she’s not and she knows it.

    I’ll still think it’s silly to petition Andy Cohen about her (or just about any serious subject matter) as he’ll just use it as an excuse to manipulate ratings. Besides, he tweeted this morning (and I would have missed it had I not been drawn in by my latest follower) that he’s headed out to the Hamptons so I am pretty sure he couldn’t care less who you and your followers don’t want returning to the show. Tamra Barney is living PROOF of how they regard viewers—nothing redeemable in that woman except that the viewers despised her actions and she probably made a lot more money as a result. Jill has Bobby so she doesn’t need the Bravo bucks to continue to embarrass herself….if Jill isn’t on Season 4, it’s because she knows she screwed up and unlike Tamra, she doesn’t NEED the Bravo income. Your oetition and whining won;t have anything to do with casting. Ever.

    Again—I have gone WAY too long…..just wanted to address Lynn directly and I wish you no ill will. I do hope you get rid of the “HATE” in this blog title….and if you don’t, it’s probably because you need to draw the readership and definitely not because you HATE Jill…..you’ve never met her and she hasn’t done anything to your fanily….you are reacting to what was filmed 7 months ago and rationally, NO ONE could hate a tv character.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Oh, honey – you need to go back a few posts. Lynne compiled a LIST (sensu Jill’s LIST OF THINGS PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO WRONG HER) of reasons why Shrill is so despicable. A few of us added a few more things. Just reading through the list is enough to make you want to scream. Now if you don’t like the word hate, ok, that’s your view and you are entitled to it. To each his own on that one. But whatever word you chose, Jill ZAAAAAAAARIN is an extremely unlikeable person.

      I do disagree with your contention that this blog (and the many others like it, including Gawker, NY Mag, etc) have fed the beast. Maybe initially, but lately Shrill has been very quiet. I don’t for a second think she feels bad about having announced someone’s wonderful news (erroneously, as it turns out). In her mind, she’s never wrong. Even when she hints at having maybe been wrong, it is only to try to make us think she has a good side. Within a nanosecond, she’s back on the whine-blame track. But I do think she doesn’t like being so intensely disliked, so she’s been much quieter lately. That plus the fact that her book has sold maybe 2,000 copies (1/2 of them in the ZAAAAARIN Fabrics basement) – I think her family has been limiting her access to the internet and the phone. Good for them if they have.

      You are probably right about the petition but so what? Maybe it will be one more thing that will cause her family to urge her to stay off the show (and TV, and internet) in the future. What could be better than a Jill Zarin who is neither seen nor heard?

    • ridicurhony says:

      ‘.you’ve never met her and she hasn’t done anything to your fanily….you are reacting to what was filmed 7 months ago and rationally, NO ONE could hate a tv character’

      ?A lot of us got frustrated watching Jill’s rude, childish, self-centered, controlling behavior on the show and in real life (announcing the birth of a child in real life before the parents put out a formal statement), had the same reaction to her as Lynn, and have found Lynn’s blog to express that frustration. I guess if you think she’s a tv ‘character’ you don’t think her actions are real or that this is a ‘role’ that she’s playing – like it’s a movie?
      You’ve never met Jen, either, (or have you?)but seem to be positive about her involvement in the show – I doubt you know how much footage they shot of her or what Bravo is going to do with her. So your statements about her are just about as silly as the Jill petition here.
      Telling someone else how they feel (by telling Lynn she doesn’t ‘hate’ Jill Zarin) is a pretty controlling thing to do, IMHO. Chillax! We all get each other here, maybe there’s another blog you could read that would be more agreeable to you.

    • morning says:

      I agree with some of what you said, disagree with some. But my reason for posting is to thank you for your very calm, non-confrontational post. Most of us appreciate all viewpoints when they are well written and presented without venom.

      • error 404 says:

        I wish I could agree.

        1. It was such along winded “speech” that I stopped reading after the 3rd paragraph. I come here for a laugh, not a lecture.

        But I actually learned all I needed to know in the first 3 paragraphs:

        2. anyone who objects to the use of the 4 letter word “hate” in the title, just doesn’t get the whole sense of humor this site is based on.

        3. anyone who thinks we “hate” Jill because of one 44 minute episode clearly hasn’t taken the time to visit the site, read the blogs, read the comments, etc… you know, find out who we are and what we’re about before criticizing us.

        4. yes, we’re free to wonder why people do what they do. I wonder who takes the time to visit sites they don’t agree with and post long winded speeches about why the just don’t get? If you don’t you don’t. Move on.

        • Kat says:

          Amen.

        • morning says:

          My point was that she wasn’t nasty and confrontational which, incidentally wasn’t the case, as it turns out, with a comment or two in a response. That’s all I was saying. Did you think she was being nasty and/or confrontational?

          • Kat says:

            I took the post as a hostile passive-aggressive rant. Just my opinion. I respect yours Morning. 🙂

          • morning says:

            I’ll have to read it again as I should know passive aggressive. 🙂 I didn’t read the entire thing either. (I don’t read any post from anyone that’s more the length of a lecture than a comment.) Still, I much prefer passive aggressive over other things I’ve read on this blog (which is obviously what’s really bothering me!) And it should be noted that this person hasn’t posted again. I think she/he like everyone else here wanted to get state her opinion.

        • Kat says:

          @morning I reread the post and stand by my comments. I agree to disagree.
          Imo it was a self righteous lecture/rant aimed squarely at Lynn, and included snide remarks pointed at commenters in general.

          • morning says:

            You’re probably right. I still haven’t reread it. But I still don’t think a rude post excuses a rude response. Just my opinion. Like someone a few days ago wisely said, “you don’t fight fire with fire.”

          • Kat says:

            Actually fire can put fire out. 🙂
            I apologise to you if I’ve offended you.

          • Kokuanani says:

            I agree.

            And good grief, who imposes a 30,000 word “post” on a blog that they’re brand new to?

            I’m all for politeness etc., but THAT RANT was rude.

          • Kat says:

            @ Kokuanani ~ Word.

        • KLAS says:

          “It was such along winded “speech” that I stopped reading after the 3rd paragraph. I come here for a laugh, not a lecture.”

          Indeed!

    • Just a Commoner says:

      I agree with you about the petition. Bravo will go with the drama every time. Drama sells.

      As for Bethenny being as awful as Jill—not the case and here’s why. Bethenny pokes as much fun at herself as she does at others. She admits her faults, she makes jokes at her own expense, she doesn’t take herself too seriously, she doesn’t hold grudges.

      Jill, on the other hand, criticizes others while trying to make it sound as if she’s doing them a favor by pointing out their flaws to them. She holds grudges. She kept Bethenny’s “get a hobby” phone message for four months so that she could play it back on the show. She rarely self-deprecating. She will put on a show of helping someone but she expects to be repaid for it somehow and if the other person doesn’t come through she acts very hurt, insulted, and angry.

      Bethenny is forgiven by others for her quips and barbs because others see her being the same way towards herself. They end up laughing with her at themselves and at her. Then everyone moves on.

      Jill is not forgiven because she demands that others behave the way she thinks they should behave and then she does the guilt trip thing when they fail. No one likes to be manipulated into feeling beholden to someone else.

      Jill wants all the power in her relationships with others. Bethenny just wants to live her life and be funny and honest and let the chips fall where they may. That’s the difference.

    • The Digger says:

      Dear kind of shocked – Thank you so much for posting your dissertation on this blog!

      I wish I had the patience to read long winded postings on blogs but I simply don’t. If I got the gist of your message you are 1. Shocked that the word hate is used in the title of the blog 2. That you don’t think anyone should hate another person that is a character on tv they have not met (what have they done to me as the viewer as the reasoning) 3. You wonder why we are giving a pass to Bethenny, Ramona, and the other women and we are just hating on Jill 4. You think the petition is a waste of time. Somewhere in your short story you also bring up the Salahis, Danielle and her daughters, Andy Cohen, the OC ladies, Twitter, NJ, the value or lack of value about opinions, Silex, and hatred – wait – “hatred” in quotes. Did I get it all?

      Here is the very short answer. People hate or don’t hate anyone they choose. People write blogs about anything they choose. People start petitions about everything. People Tweet about anything what they want. People have opinions about everything. So? Why do you care and why do you care ENOUGH to come on a blog to create such a long winded post on a blog that you don’t agree with? That in fact does make you a troll. If you came to the blog and know it is a place you don’t agree with or belong then JUST LEAVE. No need for a dissertation.

      Do you cook with shrimp? I am sure you do. I happen to think that cooking with shrimp hurts the little souls and I can hear them scream when they are being cooked. So, next I will post a small novel on the We Love To Cook Live Shrimp blog you read/post on about the psychological damage you are doing to those shrimp. Sound good??!!

      The very short answer to the name of this blog is that it is KEYWORD DRIVEN. Do you understand this concept kind of shocked? It means that GOOGLE has keywords and the title of this blog USES KEYWORDS to drive people with a dislike, hate, whatever you call relating to Jill Zarin it to this blog. See how clever I was? I included JILL ZARIN and the word HATE in the same sentence. Party down Google!! 🙂

      Hey – kind of shocked – Satchels of Gold! Cartwheels are free! Smiles are contagious! Have a great weekend and remember those who fought and paid with their lives for our democracy and the freedom of speech you so enjoy!

    • Annie1033 says:

      Jesus christ, you spent a looooooooooooooong time crafting that little lecture didn’t you, ‘Kind of Shocked’??
      Wow. That’s a lot of time to spend swooping in, trying to give a “talkin’ to” to a bunch of people who are just here to be entertained! This site sort of (and forgive me for speaking to you Lynn, but since I’ve been here from the beginning I DO feel a part of this thing) but this site in and of itself sort of revels in the ridiculousness of this SHOW. THIS TV SHOW. We DON’T take ourselves all too seriously unlike yourself, OBVIOUSLY.
      This isn’t saving lives! This is commentary and venting about what most of us consider to be a ridiculous guilty pleasure!
      If you truly are UP HERE and we’re all DOWN HERE, go on with your bad self and get busy doing whatever it is that is so urgently serious and important in your life.
      Or keep commenting!
      You have the freedom to do that and I have the freedom to respond!
      Wow…
      Life & Death,
      Annie1033

      • Annie1033 says:

        Mm, in my peeved state I meant “forgive me for speaking FOR you Lynn” not TO you….typo. ;>

  50. boston02127 says:

    @Kind of Shocked~~~you stated,
    “No one here would have had the guts to hate Jill when she was exactly the same for two seasons, as if she owned the show and life revolved around the phrase “Zarin Fabrics,” while Bethenny backed her 110% by making the snarky comments. That seems so bizarre.”
    Yeah, I did.

    and btw after reading your book, I mean your post it seems like you’ve either had a lot of coffee this morning or a lot of something else that starts with a c last night.
    Have a nice day.

    • The Digger says:

      Me too, Boston. I hated Jill Zarin from the very first dinner party shown during season one that Ramona had where she invited the dear Cuntess LuLu and not Jill and then Jill was out for revenge; out to make Ramona pay for not inviting her. I hated Jill Zarin from that first moment and it only got worse.

  51. boston02127 says:

    http://twitter.com/BeverlyMerrill

    This twitter page is from a Beverly Merrill, That was Danielle from NJ name before she changed it to Danielle Staub. Read some of the tweets, I think it’s more than obvious that someone else created this account with this name to be mean to her. Manzo family?

    • Kat says:

      I wonder if that is tweetmaxine using that name?

      • boston02127 says:

        I don’t like Danielle but the messages on there are really mean, I think it’s going too far.

        • Kat says:

          A twitter troll… more sludge for the ecosystem.
          Calling Kellamity for a clean up.

        • ridicurhony says:

          Boston, I agree with you about Danielle and that’s why I quit watching NJ, now THAT is really hate on ALL of their blogs on that show and I don’t see the point, especially after Teresa started trying to bring it onto NY blogs with the nasty comments about Sonja for no reason other than Jill said so.

          Glad to see there are ppl on here now – when I first opened this up this morning, there was only your one response.

          • error 404 says:

            Oooh, they should totally do a crossover show. Kiki can go to NJ and lecture/educate the Manzos on the evil of bullying and how 4 shouldn’t pick on 1. Are you reading this Andy?

            Or maybe that explains “poison island”. Kiki would stay up all night hopped up on sugar, watching RHONJ and somehow got confused that she was Danielle and the victim of bullying, 4 against 1. Quick: scour old eps of RHONJ for references to sachels of gold or al sharpton!

  52. Kat says:

    @kind of shocked ~~ You named the child involved in the twitter episode. No one here did. Since that was your chief beef it sort of makes you exactly what you proclaim to dislike. You obviously haven’t read Lynn’s blogs or else you have managed to entirely miss her point.

    You blow hot air.

  53. Kat says:

    Oh and I hate Jill Zarin. 😉

  54. boston02127 says:

    Danielle’s real tweeter:
    http://twitter.com/Daniellestaub

  55. Kat says:

    I couldn’t sleep. I just grabbed some caffeine and a cig and looked again at the book.
    Good grief. Bethenny is obviously a problem for that poster. Maybe start your own blog. Who ARE you, Susan Saunders?

  56. otaypanky says:

    Oh cool…something interesting is going on. I hear what kind of shocked is saying. She does not like the word “hate”. I just can’t stand alot of what JZ has done so much so that hate just seemed like the most likely “go to” word”.
    Shocked, no one is going to hurt JZ or attack her physically. I’ll even give you that she probably is not the first reviewer that reviewed his/her own work and that the petition just might give her a raise for next season. Heck, she certainly is not the first person given a bit of notoriety to develop an out sized ego, become puffed up with self importance and go power mad and she will not be the last.
    This is trash tv and the more trash, the better for the network.
    It’s just that JZ is such a steamroller. She does connive in a way that is supremely distasteful and she is doing it on film for all to see ergo all are free to comment.
    Truth is, I’m more concerned about posters that actually encourage JZ, see nothing wrong with her behavior. Say thinks like “Calm down, this too shall pass”…Now those are the people whose ethics and morality I question.
    On season 1 and 2, Jill was tolerable and her friendship with B was fun to watch. Bottom line, is she went to far due to jealousy, envy, greed…are we seeing a pattern here? The seven deadly sins. Many far more talented and with much more to offer the world than JZ have fallen into the fame trap. But “Shocked”. Please keep in mind that Jill courted this career for herself. Made many of her own choices and believed her own press.
    For that she is responsible. And we like disliking her deeds, words and behaviors. We all like justice even though very little exists. We all like good endings and dissing someone who is trying to dismantle some else’s success is sort of like trying to deliver just that… justice and a good ending.
    Anyway, good reading your views and yes, I do agree with alot of what you said, but I really, really do SO TOTALLY DISLIKE JILL ZARIN…hmmm…just doesn’t have the same zing.

  57. LynnNChicago says:

    Bethenny just tweeted:

    Bethenny U know that silly song”pants on the ground?” I’ve changed the lyrics to “diapers on the ground&sing it to Bryn.”I’m an idiot.lol.

    LOL Love her! ok maybe “love” is the wrong word….REALLY LIKE Bethenny and STRONGLY DISLIKE Jill 🙂

    • ridicurhony says:

      It’s really fun to watch her fall in love with her baby – brings back SUCH good memories!

    • couchon says:

      My generation was told never to say hate. You may be a baby boomer if told to never use this word but words that meant the same thing were okay.
      Thanks, Lynn. Now I can and do say the forbidden word all day long. Cross that off my bucket list.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Yeah, I was taught the same thing. I was taught lots of things that don’t work in today’s society. Lots of that stuff was about superficiality. You couldn’t say hate, but you could BE a total bitch.

        Frankly, I wish there was a stronger word than hate to describe the way I feel about Jill Zarin. Loathe, detest, strongly dislike, hate…none of it really does the trick. I FREAKING HATE JILL ZARIN AND HER FREAKAZOID AMAZON FAUX-FRIEND KELLAMITY NEVER-BEEN-NOBODY.

        • Kat says:

          LOL
          I hate Jill Zarin

          and…
          I approve of my own message. 🙂

          • Annie1033 says:

            And oh let me add something COMPLETELY repetitive to this conversation:

            I HATE JILL ZARIN AND HER STUPID FRIEND KELLY. HATE HER TOO.

            And I don’t LIKE Bethenny. I LOVE HER.
            Suck it!!
            (Oh, and I love you guys!;)

          • Kat says:

            @Annie1033 Roflol 😉

  58. morning says:

    Regarding Jen, not that anyone else is talking about it now, I wish they’d keep her one more season after getting rid of Kelly and Jill and Luann. I think if she hung out with the “nice” girls we might get a chance to see what she has to offer.

    • ridicurhony says:

      I still think they have used clips on her in a kind of forewarning way – I doubt they’d show her multiple times getting shut down by team Jill if they’re not going to do anything with that. Uh, and think it through to the natural end to everyone ignoring her. There’s more to come.

      • morning says:

        Hadn’t thought about that. I hope you’re right!

        • ridicurhony says:

          the first couple of times it’s just barely noticeable. I completely did not get that she was being introduced as a ‘new housewife’ in the episode with Jill planning her skating party with Jill talking over her. I think they’ve since made a point to show her getting dismissed and disregarded by the other wives. Like Jill’s totally RUDE moment when Alex is telling her she’s in Brooklyn, interrupting Alex to tell Jen that Alex is being rude to make a scene at her party.

          I wonder why they didn’t show the footage of Jen telling Jill and who was it that went into the pantry to get out of her pantry – that she had other rooms they could use? Jen, herself, commented that that’s what we didn’t see in some blog or somewhere after that episode.

          • morning says:

            I guess I figured from what I’ve read about her tweets that she doesn’t think she’s coming back. Hopefully we’ll see something interesting in the last episode.

          • ridicurhony says:

            OH, sorry! heh, I obviously have NOT been reading her twitters. Sry! maybe you’re right and she’s not coming back.

          • morning says:

            I just thought that’s what I read here. I don’t follow twitter. I thought she was asking people to help her get on the show. I haven’t seen enough of her to form an opinion although I do know that Lynn tried to help her learn twitter and she didn’t get it and more importantly, she didn’t say “thank you” to Lynn. I just figured if they took it down to BRAS they could use one more.

      • error 404 says:

        I’ve never seen Jen in a scene without Jill, and I’ve never read anything from Bravo that speaks her name as a potential housewife.

        Until dissuaded, I will continue to assume she’s Jill’s friend that she was pushing on the producers as a replacement for Alex. It was when she got all of the HWs at Jen’s apt that she boldly banished Alex from her fabulous circle of friends.

        The whole “Jen is a new HW” gossip seems exist only in the gossip press, a place Jill loves to drop ‘hints’ and get digs in to her rivals. It showed up around the same time as ‘Alex is leaving the show’ gossip that’s also failed to materialize in any tangible way.

        I really think this whole season is about Jill overestimating her power.

        As for Jen herself, whom I find a crashing bore, I’d rather see more of Ramona’s dark haired friend.

        • ridicurhony says:

          ok, well, now it makes sense! hahaha. I couldn’t figure out why ppl were saying she was the ‘new housewife’ because she was never clearly introduced the way the others are usually. I knew I was missing some info somewhere -this is what happens when someone starts to gossip.

          morning- I had completely forgotten about Lynn trying to teach Jen how to use twitter and Jen’s comments about this site! lol

          Seriously – think I have some reading to do – I haven’t even read Lynn’s older blogs here ‘for’ I was so excited to find the current posts and have been doing a crash course for a couple weeks trying to keep up! ha I hope everyone has a good weekend. Look forward to reading some more later on…

        • Snarkapalooza says:

          Spot on, error 404! I’ve gotten the exact same impression of the Jen situation and see her as Jill’s toady-in-training.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        I’m willing to give Jennifer a chance. Not being able to get a word in edgewise with Jill, LuAnn and Kiki is not a fair test of a person. She seems smart and might turn out to be interesting. At least she does something interesting. I can tell she’s not sure who to ally herself with yet. I think once she feels more comfortable, she’ll bloom a bit – Sonja certainly did.

  59. Kat says:

    Kellamity’s advice about safe sex. What a Hypocrite in re: Her remarks to Bethenny.

    She posted video via twitter.

    • HD says:

      What an idiot. She is going on and on about 40, 000 condoms. In the reality of the population of people in New York alone that is NOT a lot of condoms. 4 million yes, 40, 000 that is not a HUGE number. So only 40,000 people in New York have had sex. Get a damn life, Kelly!

    • Just a Commoner says:

      Damn, she blocked me from posting on her youtube videos!

      This is what I was gonna post:

      Forty thousand in all? Forty thousand in the past hour? Forty thousand since when? This number means nothing when there’s no context, Kelly.

      I posted a comment on another video of hers that may or may not have been mildly critical [cough]. I can’t even remember what it was. I’m sure she deleted it. Oh well.

  60. HD says:

    I hear what everyone is saying and as I ponder this deeply on a Saturday morning I must say, hmmmmmmmmmmm….YES, I STILL HATE and I do mean HATE not dislike, not sorta not like, I HATE Jill Zarin.

  61. Bobbi says:

    Thought you might enjoy this take on Kelly’s Virgin Island behavior. It is a theory I haven’t seen explored before. Seems plausible to me. http://tinyurl.com/3yd2qrg

    As for the Amanda/Ashley debacle, Lynn, I think you handled it most appropriately. I think Ashley may have learned something through that whole process too. At least one can hope!

  62. Katiecoo says:

    Ok posted this on the previous blog before I realized it was already carried over…duh!

    An Open Letter to Bobby Zarin:

    Mr. Zarin,

    First of all I admire your loyalty and devotion to your wife. I think that can be a rare trait in this day and age and it’s heartwarming to see it. It appears to us viewers that you are dedicated to supporting Jill and only seeing the good in her which makes her a lucky gal.

    Yet in your attitude in this last episode, some of us are scratching our heads at the level of denial going on here about her behavior and the enabling is not helping things. So here are some questions:

    1. Assuming you watched the prior seasons of RHONY and Jill talked to you about various social events, you might remember that it’s clear Ramona does not appreciate surprise visits thrust on her. Do you remember when Alex brought Simon along to that “Girls Night Out” evening? That was just one night. You and Jill busting in to a girls WEEK was just that. A week of girltime. Even making an assumption that Jill *might* be welcome there, what made you think you would be?

    2. Remember when you schooled Alex about talking to Jill? Admonishing her behavior? And her agreeing not only with you, but agreeing to work things out with Jill? Her exact words being “yes, I need to talk to Jill”. Did you realize she attempted to do so that very evening and was rebuffed and rejected by your wife? How was she supposed to ‘work things out” in that environment? Did Jill tell you about this? How do you think Jill showing up unannounced at a Girls Week vacation would fit with this tension?

    3. Did Jill tell you about the phone calls about Kelly having a breakdown and the girls request she be there for her (and assist her in getting help) when she returned to NYC the very day you were leaving? Did you encourage Jill to be there for Kelly?

    4. You’ve been divorced before. Could you imagine someone, in the middle of a conflictual, unresolved divorce with lots of animosity from various members of the family, showing up as a “surprise” at a sister in law’s Thanksgiving dinner, with ALL family members present (including the ex spouse) blasting in with “I thought you’d be happy to see me!” ignoring the other tension filled relationships in the room? And, by the way, hiring a private plane to crash that Turkey day celebration?

    5. Do you think you and Jill could have found your own ways to a bathroom in that mansion without being offered if you needed to utilize the facilities?

    You seem like a good, compassionate soul and a great mentor for women (such as Alex) and someone who can offer advice easily.

    So what advice would you give a woman who knows she’s in various stages of conflict with the majority of women on a relaxing vacation, who knows these women have been through a high stress situation while on said vacation, who wants to show up unannounced to be a “surprise” to the hostess. Would you think this is a good idea and how would you advise this woman in this situation?

    Maybe these questions are rhetorical but some of us would like for you to at least consider them.

    Thank you,

    Katie

    • otaypanky says:

      like it…cool calm reasonable…let’s print and mail it!

    • Just a Commoner says:

      Good points.

      I think Bawby is kind of afraid of Jill. I’ve known couples like this. The guy just wants to live a quiet life, have sex when he wants it, have all the perks of married life including having a dolled-up wife on his arm when going to professional and public events. He doesn’t understand all the angst and drama that she stirs up but he knows that he has to put up with it if he wants the other stuff. Especially the sex. He knows right from wrong, but he also knows that she can make his life a living hell if he tries to impose his morals on her.

      So she does what she wants and he trails along behind, waiting for the next BJ and maybe a few moments of relative calm now and then.

      • Kat says:

        Jill seems a tad selfish to be a good lover. I’m just saying.

        • Just a Commoner says:

          Agreed! I’m sure she does the absolute minimum to keep him happy and his wallet open.

          I think he has probably learned not to ask for much, either.

      • Katiecoo says:

        Good points. I wonder if he keeps championing for her in that way, admonishing the other women (which is rare for men to get that involved) because he knows if he doesn’t, there will hell to pay at home.

        • Just a Commoner says:

          Right. We’ve seen how pissed she gets at her girlfriends when she thinks they haven’t been loyal and supportive enough. Why should her husband get special treatment? If anything, he probably gets worse since she knows it’d be a lot harder for him to get out of their relationship than it is for her friends to dump her.

      • error 404 says:

        I think you may be right, and when his sons or their wives write a tell all, I’m sure it’s gonna be juicy. There is no way this woman is stirring up drama just for the show, plus her own family admits to trouble and times when they are not even speaking!

        Ally even let her hatred of Bawby be filmed for TV. I can just imagine how the boys feel about the step mom their dad left their mom for, especially since she’s now involved in their family business.

        OMG, now I want the story!

        • Morgaine Swann says:

          Do we know for sure that Ally dislikes Bobby? I know they’re not close, but I don’t remember anything that would indicate any animosity toward him. What did I miss?

          I don’t think Bobby has any idea how petty and vindictive Jill has been to the others. He’s never around when she does her evil toward the others. He’ll have quite the eye opener if he watches or has watched this season.

  63. LynnNChicago says:

    Apparently Kelly didn’t think that her tweet quite got the message across that 40,000 is a really really really big number.

    Can you believe that New Yorkers had sex that many times?

    • Kat says:

      Kelly advocating condom use and telling people to use them and have fun is akin to her calling them ho-bags. She is a tweeting condradiction.

      • error 404 says:

        If Kiki thinks “PETA doesn’t say don’t wear fur” there is no way she can make a connection between condoms and being slutty.

        She probably thinks she just handed out 40,000 Barbie rolled-brim sun hats in fun colors. She does have a eye for accessories.

    • Olivia says:

      For me that would be a trip down Memory Lane.

    • ImToula says:

      As a New Yorker, I don’t know what to make of the 40,000 condoms. That’s a drop in the bucket. You see if they gave more than one to each person…..that would mean that less than 40,000 people had sex in NY…right?……I know NYers have a reputaion…but I don’t think it’s because they don’t have sex. What is this mess talking about? And who cares if she’s going to the Aids Mission? They don’t want her there. I don’t want her in NY..who wants her raise your hand.

    • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

      I just hope that Kelly made sure that none of those condoms was used during a one night stand!

  64. Olivia says:

    Dear Kind of Shocked:

    Let me address your criticism of this blog, its site monitor, and the people who choose to comment:

    We are all aware that we are addressing the stupid actions of people who have agreed to expose themselves through a “reality show” that is less “reality” and more of a large dose of b.s.

    We also know that for the most part these people are exactly what the public, that is the audience, sees “shining” through their ridiculous performances. And we are also quite aware that they are unable to adequately assess themselves because each and everyone of them is bulging with such self importance that they rely on their “fans” to prop up their egos by constant praise filtering through their individual blogs, Facebook pages, and Twitter accounts. None of us here is unaware of their sheer quest to capture fame at any price. We are not stupid.

    When these women agree wholeheartedly to present themselves in this venue, women who collectively possess less talent than say the least capable performer appearing on American Idol, than criticism is sure to follow. The only “talent” offered by anyone of these “Housewives” is their absolute genius for self promotion, whether it be Alex and right up to Jill Zarin. This is their claim to “fame”.

    Each performer on this series has displayed their desire to be a “star” and they do so without batting an eye. Some chose a more subtle approach, i.e. Ramona and her constant display of her jewelry line and her repeated references to Pinot Grigio which leads one to question if this “product placement”may also earn her a little something on the side from that manufacturer, to Jill and her constant hawking of “the book” and her references to Zarin Fabrics. They are all in it for the money and do so by enlisting “fans” to buy into their “sell”.

    When someone like untalented Lu Ann chooses to record a song and follows up with a nonsensical video then she has opened herself up to the brickbats that go along with that effort to turn herself into a “star” with little to back up that statement.

    And while she may be no different in her thirst for fame than her other castmates, Jill Zarin has far exceeded the others by her behavior in seizing that opportunity to turn herself into a household name by reaching new lows by her own design. She has attempted to destroy another person via the series, published accounts, tv appearances, interviews, and cyberspace. No venue is too small for Jill to shove herself into the mix and grab the spotlight. She has no other peer who can come close to her shameless quest for the spotlight.

    They are all guilty of savaging one another throughout. But Jill has again earned the title of being the worst simply due to her own behavior and inability to understand that her actions have repercussions. She is deliberately nasty, exceedingly mean, dismissive of others, and follows her own rules. What she is unable to process is that this type of behavior is seen by the viewers as totally without merit and has showcased her petty jealousies that far outweigh whatever goal she has set in order to achieve the status she craves.

    For these women to, as Jerry Seinfeld noted, “willingly put their heads in the toilet” in choosing to appear on these shows season after season, says more about them than any blog that comments on their actions can possibly do. No one is holding a gun to their heads in forcing them to come back time after time as they artlessly go about “selling” their products week after week then crying “foul” when they are held up to the light. They are raking it in through book sales, cds, jewelry lines, cosmetic sales, tv appearances, and product endorsements. They must then reap what they sew.

    This blog affords the opportunity to take them down a peg or two and we do. If it bothers you than I suggest you don’t look. None of them should expect anything more. They earn it, they own it.

  65. otaypanky says:

    What are the condom numbers for Jersey? Must be at least 80,000 with Teresa’s fat chuckie getting more the worse for wear daily.

    • Kat says:

      omg LOL

      • otaypanky says:

        Truth. Doesn’t “fat chuckie” make you want to pound a nail into your desk with your forehead?

        • Kat says:

          The first time I ever read about a “fat chuckie” I thought it was a short squat penis. Finding out the real meaning of the term … it’s barfable as used by RHNJ.
          Yes nail to forehead … erase the image NOW.

  66. vilzvet says:

    Just checked out some twitters….Ashley is interested in producing her own jewelry line (!) and also asked if she should do a Bravo blog…..Oh God No! Can’t believe anyone would ask her to do either….

  67. Squirrels says:

    AND….. BTW, if it’s the Zarin Family Holiday on Ice du trou noir (of the black hole). Why didn’t the HOST speak….. you know, the man of the house, Bobby Zarin?

  68. error 404 says:

    maybe I’m just making lemons out of lemonaid, but regarding “Poison Island”:

    I read that the USVI lobbied Bravo hard to get the visit.

    Team BRAS seem to have given many shout out to it’s fabulocity.

    Kiki & crew (Jill, Lulu, etc..) keep calling it disparaging names, like “Scary Island”, “Poison Island” etc…

    so, do you think the USVI are livid? They wanted good press, not a declaration that if you vacation there, really bad things will happen.

    seriously, after this, who’s gonna hire Krazy BeenSomeone to be the spokesmodel for anything?

    • Kat says:

      The makers of gummi bears. Not.

    • otaypanky says:

      She can’t sign anything with a morals clause. Too loose a cannon. Too much speculation about drug use. Would you hire her for your brand. Hmmm…me think kel buried herself.

    • Capiche says:

      Error 404- I was thinking the same thing and I was born in the Virgin Islands. Not sure if they lobbied hard, but their tourism division usually support film crews coming in by offering them free hotels and taxis, waiving some fees or deep discounts for a variety of things. But rest assured the USVI, all three major islands – St. Croix, St. Thomas and St. John – remains a beautiful place for vacation. As to some of the other questions out there that I saw, it is NOT a foreign country (you don’t even need a passport) and it really just a 20-minute airplane ride to St. Barths, which may explain the Jill thing. I think she came on an airline and then chartered a plane from St. Thomas to St. Barths which only cost like $500 – $1000. Trust me, I’ve done it. Takes less time than getting from Brooklyn to Manhattan sometimes. Btw, St. Barths is beautiful and my friends and I, when in the islands, go all the time. Definitely in off-season. Who wants to go when all the poseurs are there clogging up the tiny island and harbor? Oh, and as for Jill’s claims that it was a nine-hour journey…um, direct flights from NY to St. Thomas (private or not) is less than four hours. Yes, a ride to the ferry for St. John can take about an hour, the ferry, 15 minutes, but it’s also like two minutes from the ferry to the villa. Ample opportunities to pee all along the way. It’s not a third world country! You’re zooming by McDonalds, Hooters, Wendy’s on the way there! And bottled water sells for $1. Yes people. One. American. Dollar.

      P.S. This may also explain the Kelly drug thing. There are alot of people who hide their drugs, cocaine or whatever, in their jewelry. And all she would have to worry about is getting it on the flight. There are no customs or immigration checks so she would just sail right in. For those who haven’t visited, the laws are basically the same as in the US. And then again, she might have gotten some potent weed there and everyone knows, that stuff is much stronger in the islands…LOL! They really grow it with care!

      So yes, it pretty much disturbs me that Kelly brings her crazy direct from the UES and then labels it scary or poison island. The only thing scary or poison is you Kelly and your puppet master Jill!

    • Capiche says:

      Error 404- I was thinking the same thing and I was born in the Virgin Islands. Not sure if they lobbied hard, but their tourism division usually support film crews coming in by offering them free hotels and taxis, waiving some fees or deep discounts for a variety of things. But rest assured the USVI, all three major islands – St. Croix, St. Thomas and St. John – remains a beautiful place for vacation. As to some of the other questions out there that I saw, it is NOT a foreign country (you don’t even need a passport) and it really just a 20-minute airplane ride to St. Barths, which may explain the Jill thing. I think she came on an airline and then chartered a plane from St. Thomas to St. Barths which only cost like $500 – $1000. Trust me, I’ve done it. Takes less time than getting from Brooklyn to Manhattan sometimes. Btw, St. Barths is beautiful and my friends and I, when in the islands, go all the time. Definitely in off-season. Who wants to go when all the poseurs are there clogging up the tiny island and harbor? Oh, and as for Jill’s claims that it was a nine-hour journey…um, direct flights from NY to St. Thomas (private or not) is less than four hours. Yes, a ride to the ferry for St. John can take about an hour, the ferry, 15 minutes, but it’s also like two minutes from the ferry to the villa. Ample opportunities to pee all along the way. It’s not a third world country! You’re zooming by McDonalds, Hooters, Wendy’s on the way there! And bottled water sells for $1. Yes people. One. American. Dollar.

      P.S. This may also explain the Kelly drug thing. There are alot of people who hide their drugs, cocaine or whatever, in their jewelry. And all she would have to worry about is getting it on the flight. There are no customs or immigration checks so she would just sail right in. For those who haven’t visited, the laws are basically the same as in the US. And then again, she might have gotten some potent weed there and everyone knows, that stuff is much stronger in the islands…LOL! They really grow it with care!

      So yes, it pretty much disturbs me that Kelly brings her crazy direct from NYC and then labels it scary or poison island. The only thing scary or poison is you Kelly and your puppet master Jill!

      • morning says:

        As someone who has never been to any tropical island but plans to, I would definitely consider the USVI after seeing the show. Only reason I wouldn’t is if I was required to take Kelly with me!

      • vilzvet says:

        Interesting/informative post Capiche! Thanks! I also just remembered I have been there, 20 years ago exactly on a cruise stopover. It was gorgeous!

      • boston02127 says:

        They could call it shit island and I’d still go after seeing it on TV.

  69. LynnNChicago says:

    LOL I’m always posting late…sorry to double post Kelly’s PSA..

    This tweeted by Alex’s PR person..

    Alex’s St. John meltdown was simple: Home Sick + Ambushed = Anxiety and Frustration.

    • Kat says:

      Wow, I didn’t think Alex required a band-aid. She didn’t have a meltdown – not compared to the Kellamaty-insanity.
      PR offense is best defense? I wouldn’t use Alex and meltdown in the same sentence if I were her Press Rep.

      • Katiecoo says:

        Me either. That was a totally normal reaction to the extreme stress going on. Bethenny was even in tears. They were all in shock. Except jill of course, the only shock being that none of them got right up and offered her their seat for a pedicure. With a beverage and her own personal servant.

      • error 404 says:

        probably, but she’s been taking some hits for it on other blogs/sites, so the response wasn’t too surprising.

        Me, I thought she answered it right there in the moment “this is my first trip without my family, and there’s been enough drama!”

        but, when you’re being hated on, I’m sure it’s sometimes hard to realize they’ll hate on you no matter what you say.

        • Just a Commoner says:

          I think also that Alex isn’t good at masking her feelings, maybe especially after all that had happened. And remember, they’ve all said that the worst was not aired.

          Bethenny, on the other hand, stayed cool as a cuke under her big hat and big sunglasses. Her expression was inscrutable. I loved it. But she’s also been dealing with insanity all her life and she’s got thick skin.

    • error 404 says:

      It’s kinda weird Bravo ambushed them that way: all in chairs with people holding their hands and feet. If it was any other time, she could just stay in her room, or simply leave the terrace, but she was almost being held down. That could have accelerated the anxiety.

      It’s like the pearl handcuff/crystal cuffs thing. I wasn’t surprised Ramona never did it, because she’s a control freak and the idea of being tied down by another person who then has control of you… probably too scary on a primal level to ever appeal to her. Didn’t Alex say she never did it either, despite the gifts.

      • Squirrels says:

        Don’t knock it till you try it.
        😀

      • Smompy says:

        I was thinking that about Ramona too – that being tied down (or tied up?) would never apeal to her. She said on her blog she’ll be wearing it as a necklace LOL. BUT, the sex experts or “sexperts” who appear on my TV from time to time are always saying that people who are very controlling and who need to be in charge all the time at work are the very ones who most enjoy having someone else take control in the bedroom. Both men and women apparently! I wouldn’t know, being that I’m like sweet, innocent Kelly and think that all sex is dirty and yucky and MY babies came from the cabbage patch, and anyone who engages in such behavior is nothing a filthy ho-bag. Except for Mr. Smomperson and myself of
        course. WE have a license!

    • litsnitch says:

      Yikes people… you’re talking about me here.

      I’m not Alex’s PR person. Wasn’t when I made that comment. I am a fan of the show and merely made that commentary on my Twitter after watching this past week’s episode.

      Alex, on the show, brought up that she was homesick. Her face when Jill walked in the room is a clear indicator that she felt ambushed (remember Jill’s face from episode 3?). I’m not psychologist, but that combination would sure make me feel anxious and frustrated. Why else did Ramona feel the need to comfort her? It was obvious to me and I was watching from a television set. Just as clear as we all saw Kelly melt down last week, we all clearly saw Alex not happy in the scene described above.

      Sorry to bemuse you guys, but I’m not authority on how Alex feels or how she wants to be portrayed in blogs or anywhere.

      • Kat says:

        Thanks for the clarification. 🙂
        The posts were responding to a PR person… an apparent mix up.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      That wasn’t a meltdown – all she did was cry. After all that stress and not having any sleep and being away from her husband and kids – damn, who wouldn’t cry. Alex was genuinely scared when Kelly had her psychotic break. Most people never see anything like that up close and to be in an isolated place with it – it would cause most people to breakdown a little. Then in walks her frenemy Jill? Hell, I wanted to cry for her.

  70. otaypanky says:

    Some PR person. Creating mental insability for her client in the pulic’s mind where none before existed.

    • otaypanky says:

      Yo Lynn…Tell Alex to give her PR person a verbal smackdown. This person just threw her client into the same pot of Kelly. Terrible PR.

    • error 404 says:

      “instability” is a bit of a leap IMO, and Alex’s anxiety is already well documented… the hives, etc..

  71. LynnNChicago says:

    Latest Kelly tweet:

    Kikilet: favs: ‘holy sugar’,’what the sugar’,’zip it’, ‘your blood type is pinot grigio’, ‘u’re going out with me, but i’m not going out with you.’

  72. Squirrels says:

    PR 302 – If it isn’t broken? Don’t fix it.

  73. vilzvet says:

    I DVR’d Ramona’s HSN appearance. They gave her a crap timeslot of 2 a.m. Yikes, and she has to do it live. Her pieces are nice but a bit pricey to the regular Joes. She was cool calm and collected.

  74. Capiche says:

    Posting this again: (I replied to someone earlier.)

    Error 404- I was thinking the same thing and I was born in the Virgin Islands. Not sure if they lobbied hard, but their tourism division usually support film crews coming in by offering them free hotels and taxis, waiving some fees or deep discounts for a variety of things. But rest assured the USVI, all three major islands – St. Croix, St. Thomas and St. John – remains a beautiful place for vacation. As to some of the other questions out there that I saw, it is NOT a foreign country (you don’t even need a passport) and it really just a 20-minute airplane ride to St. Barths, which may explain the Jill thing. I think she came on an airline and then chartered a plane from St. Thomas to St. Barths which only cost like $500 – $1000. Trust me, I’ve done it. Takes less time than getting from Brooklyn to Manhattan sometimes. Btw, St. Barths is beautiful and my friends and I, when in the islands, go all the time. Definitely in off-season. Who wants to go when all the poseurs are there clogging up the tiny island and harbor? Oh, and as for Jill’s claims that it was a nine-hour journey…um, direct flights from NY to St. Thomas (private or not) is less than four hours. Yes, a ride to the ferry for St. John can take about an hour, the ferry, 15 minutes, but it’s also like two minutes from the ferry to the villa. Ample opportunities to pee all along the way. It’s not a third world country! You’re zooming by McDonalds, Hooters, Wendy’s on the way there! And bottled water sells for $1. Yes people. One. American. Dollar.

    P.S. This may also explain the Kelly drug thing. There are alot of people who hide their drugs, cocaine or whatever, in their jewelry. And all she would have to worry about is getting it on the flight. There are no customs or immigration checks so she would just sail right in. For those who haven’t visited, the laws are basically the same as in the US. And then again, she might have gotten some potent weed there and everyone knows, that stuff is much stronger in the islands…LOL! They really grow it with care!

    So yes, it pretty much disturbs me that Kelly brings her crazy direct from NYC and then labels it scary or poison island. The only thing scary or poison is you Kelly and your puppet master Jill!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      well said! Bravo did a great job showcasing USVI, they can call it scary-island all day long but I would still LOVE to vacation there! (I’ve only visited briefly during a cruise)

      If you watch Kelly walking down the pier to the “Olga” she was more excited than anyone, running and skipping toward the yacht. I dont think anyone watching RHONY would ever worry about visiting Scarey Island provided Kelly stays in NYC!

  75. error 404 says:

    Jill didn’t say she was thirsty or had to pee. She said Ramona failed to offer her these things: i.e. is a bad hostess. Their 15 year “friendship” seems to be based solely on pointing out each others flaws at every opportunity. Toxic!

    Ramona is a reality tv genius. She has a theme to this whole season: ‘renewal’ – which is not only branding, but also ties in nicely to her products ‘tru renewal’ without having to come right out and hawk them every 5 minute. She gets to bond with B over bad dead dads, rather than be upstaged (like Kiki feels) and she gets a big season finale all centered around her vow renewal: Jill is livid. LIVID! If Ramona hadn’t upstaged her, her skating birthday party for a 9 year old would have been the finale, like her hijacked charity was last year. She’s the star, but the entire season revolves around Ramona and Bethenny. LIVID!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Great point! Ramona also did well to build a friendship with Alex and Simon, they have scored her bonus points.

      Jill now can’t stand to be in the same room with Alex, Jill’s loss! Livid is right!

    • Just a Commoner says:

      Thanks for clarifying Jill’s bathroom/water comment. I’ve been meaning to do that but I keep getting behind in the posts here. It was all about what Jill thought should be decent manners, not her actual physical needs.

      Of course, in Jill’s world, only others must practice good manners. She is free to do whatever she feels like, including yakking during her friend’s presentation, barging in on parties unannounced, being more concerned about her own feelings rather than those of someone whose father has just died, ETC. ETC. ETC.

      I have to say it. I HATE JILL ZARIN.

    • GreatExpectations says:

      Yep, totally agree. Ramona played this season well. She has said in interviews that she is the only housewife who gets along with everyone. I suppose that is something to shoot for if one finds oneself on a reality show.

      Although, I am not excited about her Renewal theme. I don’t see her ceremony as a the centerpiece of the finale, but just a location for further denouement of all the Jill/Kelly hate/insanity over the season.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        From a marketing standpoint, it was pretty ingenious. It might not resonate specifically with me, but I appreciate the accomplishment. She put Jill to shame with her branding.

  76. otaypanky says:

    Was up late last night. Could not sleep and watched Ramona for about 15 minutes. I liked her to. Her host sucked though. A better host could have helped her sell more product.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I wonder why she got such a lousy time slot? Any ideas?

      • error 404 says:

        kiki called in some favors?

      • otaypanky says:

        She’s new and has to show sales which translates to staying power. She will get better time slots. For a shopping channel, numbers and numbers only count.

        • Smompy says:

          I didn’t watch, but I believe on her blog Ramona mentioned that she’d be making two appearances right around the same date. IIRC, one was more of a prime time slot and the other was the 2:00 a.m. appearance. Perhaps her earlier segment was cancelled? Or maybe she did it but nobody happened to catch that earlier appearance? IDK.

          • vilzvet says:

            She had 2 a.m. and then 3 a.m. so back to back.

          • morning says:

            And it was a better time slot on the west coast, being 3 hours earlier. Not a lot better, but better.

          • Smompy says:

            Oops, I was wrong about Ramona saying one timeslot was “prime time.” This what she actually said: “I am now in Tampa preparing for my HSN show airing Friday, May 25th 11pm PT and May 26th at 2am EST.” I suppose 11:00 p.m is still a little better than 2:00 a.m. though. I don’t know why they’d give her lousy time slots since she seems to sell out very quickly whenever she’s on there. Well that’s what I hear anyway. I’m not an HSN person and only happened to catch one of her HSN appearances by accident. She was good though, and her stuff did sell out I think.

        • DarkSonnet says:

          Ramona has had prime time slots in some of her past appearances, especially if she was introducing new pieces of jewelry.

          I only watched her out of curiosity in the beginning so I don’t know if this scheduling has been a progression (of later times) or not.

          In the few times I saw her, she was very professional and presented herself well.

  77. LynnNChicago says:

    2 more….she’s back and on a roll….pushing the drinks but, she doesn’t drink…

    my #junewish is that the past becomes a memory and that we all embrace the future. ((h))

    Who’s making ‘kellade’ today?

    • Kat says:

      My June wish is that Kelly’s memory gets some clarity. Rinse & repeat until the delusions wash away.
      Kelly’s wish: “my #junewish is that the past becomes a memory ” Unless you have amnesia the past IS a memory.
      Word salad.

    • ridicurhony says:

      ok, one more comment..
      every time Kellade says ‘the past’ I see the image of her face turned toward and closing in on Sonja when she wanted Sonja to shut up about her yacht chef on crazy island. Eeeww.
      ‘I don’t drink’ = I have problems with alcohol
      don’t think she should be mixing ‘kellade’ with all those cups of crazy!

  78. otaypanky says:

    I read somewhere, I think it was an article by Lisa W that Jill sent a tape to Bravo and they asked her if she knew other women who may be interested. Said that B turned it down and did it at Jill’s urging. I’m assuming that Ramona was the other woman Jill brought on. Anyone know anything about the gemination of this show?
    If this is true, you can almost see why Jill feels these women are beholding to her. Not saying that they are, but in Jill’s mind, that alone could be a platform for her thinking.
    Can someone fill me in please.

    • Mark on the Upper West Side says:

      I watched an interview with Simon for Q&A Cafe in Washington DC. Originally the show was to be called called Manhattan Moms or something. You can catch on YouTube and I think it comes in 6 parts.

  79. Katiecoo says:

    ok so she’s got her cocktail she’s hoping will take off. What’s next? A book about not gossiping while gossiping called “The Kellygirl Dish”?

  80. Quincy IL says:

    So Lynn, if you have emails, do you think Jill or Kelly have ever posted here?

    Gosh, I wish we could all go to the Hamptons for the weekend like Jill. Her life is sooooooo hard.

  81. MiaKulpa says:

    Did anyone else notice that in the opening of the show this last time Jill said “I run with a fabulous circle of PEOPLE” instead of “I run with a fabulous circle of FRIENDS” ???

  82. Just a Commoner says:

    Ok, I’m not a dog person but this tweet of Bethenny’s is really cute:

    Cookie got recognized!someone at starbucks just noticed her outside&came in to see if in fact it was her.PUPPYRAZZI!

  83. Olivia says:

    There is a clip on Bravo of a segment of next week’s show where as Ramona gets ready for the renewal ceremony, Jill “surprises” her by dropping in.

    Again, another slice of hugging and kissing and promising to be “friends forever” from these two insincere phonies who have spent the last 3 seasons dissing, trashing, ridiculing, criticizing, demeaning, undermining, sabotoging, and thoroughly scorching one another. Adorable!

    If this is supposed to fill my head with flowers and sweetness it has missed the mark. There is just so much fake saccharine a human can swallow before the barfing starts and this episode, filled with “renewal” may just be it.

    Only someone who shares Jill Zarin’s cruelty would want to be “friends forever”. This one just does not compute.

  84. Nancyusa says:

    Sonya interview (don’t know who posted the link but thanks)

    Sonya says she was asked to be on the original show, which was going to be called Manhatten Moms, but she was apprehensive about it and didn’t do it.

    Sonya said the producers said there will be 2 reunion shows

    She also said she is taking a wait and see approach about her daughter appearing on the show in the future.

    Sonya was worried the night of Kelly’s breakthrough and definitely locked her door.

    http://929dave.radio.com/2010/05/27/interview-with-sonja-morgan-from-real-housewives-of-nyc/

  85. otaypanky says:

    Did jill in fact walk out of the reunion taping?

  86. Olivia says:

    From listening to Sonja’s radio interview she suggests that the cast experiences an “evolution” at the end. Is she suggesting that the cast will be seen hand holding and singing “Kumbaya”? She is pretty guarded about what happened, just infers that it was intense and that Ramona did some “stomping”, that Bethenny looked fantastic, and that she wanted Kelly to hold it together. Little mention of Jill.

  87. Gypsy says:

    I posted at the original location a couple of times but have been lurking here, mostly because all of you tend to post what I’m thinking. Great blog!

    When Kelly returned and had lunch with the three harpies, one of them asked her why she didn’t try to stay away from “the mean girls” when she was there, and she looked shocked and said, “Put I had to be there and police them so they wouldn’t be mean or gossip.” (Loose translation but she said “police” and stop them from gossiping and being mean. She was, surprise. interrupted at the end.

    I don’t know about you guys but I wouldn’t want “matron” Kelly to police me.

  88. A former Jill fan says:

    Remember when jill and her mom were on Andy’s show? Jill told viewers to contact HER if they wanted to be on that matchmaker show. Andy quickly said no to that–do not contact Jill. (Later Jill did post to contact her on her twitter and/or facebook page because I saw it! What gall!)

    Anyway, I remember seeing somewhere–blog, tweet, facebook–Andy posting a message that Jill had nothing to do with bringing people into the show. She may have suggested a couple of people, but that was the end of it. She’s a braggadocio!

  89. Olivia says:

    For anyone who thinks that Bobby does not have to “pay Jill for you know what”, the fact that she has that smelly dog Ginger sleep in the bed each night is reason enough to assume that “spontaneity” seldom sees the light of day very often. Bobby has probably had his ankles bitten enough times to simply give up. Or driven from the room by the smell.

    If you follow my meaning.

    • Just a Commoner says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they had separate bedrooms. Nor would I be surprised if she made him book appointments for BJs.

      • Hooked On Housewives says:

        @Just a Commoner
        “I wouldn’t be surprised if they had separate bedrooms. Nor would I be surprised if she made him book appointments for BJs.”

        Funny you should say that. I noticed while Jill and Bawby were in the limousine he was on one side of the seat and she was on the other. It just seems if there was any kind of warmth between them Jillousy would have possibly had her head on his shoulder or he would have had his arm around her. So fake with her crying ass. She wasn’t hurt enough to want her husband near her. I’ll bet she doesn’t even have a “chuckie” She probably gets one on loan.

        • Kat says:

          I keep thinking “chuckie cheese” now, I am grossing myself out.
          On loan? Ugh!!!! LOL

  90. Smompy says:

    LOL @ this:

    “No one here would have had the guts to hate Jill when she was exactly the same for two seasons…”

    So true. I WANTED to hate Jill before this season started, of course, but I truly feared losing my street cred, or the possibility of being deported, or even getting kicked off the country club’s membership committee (clutching the pearls!) if I were to ever let my desire for Zarin-hatred be made public. That’s how come, until recently, I had to pretend to adore Ms. Zarin and then go sneak around and surreptitiocsly try to hate her in back alleys and other dark, foul-smelling, obscure places so that my secret wouldn’t be exposed. Thank you, Lynn, for “giving me the guts” to come right out hate JZ! Ya hear that, world? I now have the guts to hate Jill Zarin! Whoo Hoo!

    That said, I think “kind of shocked” has a point about this blog’s title. Hate is strong word. Lynn, could you maybe change the title from “I Hate Jill Zarin” to “I Do Not Necessarilly Condone the Behavior of or Concur With the Apparent Motivations of the Respected Mrs. Jill Kamen Shapiro Zarin, and Therefore I Cannot Commit to Publicly Announcing My Love and Her as a Human Being At This Time”?
    Aside from being more, um, snappy, this title would obviously make it much easier for other Jill Haters to find your sight as well!
    🙂

    And before I forget: I find it adorable the way Sonja is always pushing her toaster oven snack recipes. It’s a nice break from all the hawking of books and clothing lines and auto-tuned caterwauling to read at the beginning of one or our housewives’ blogs, “I sure could go for a hot chicken parm sandwich from the toatser oven right about now, mmmmmmm!” (and see a “go here to read the recipe.”) I’m probably paraphrasing her slightly, but I really do think Sonja’s childlike enthusiasm for the toaster oven is just SO cute! Make me wanna cook up some pizza bagels right now.

    • Kat says:

      I’m just a gutless hater.
      Grrrr

    • Olivia says:

      How about: “Buy My Crap!” as a title? And Sonja is busy putting together a cookbook featuring toaster oven treats for under $20.00 that her French cook begged her to write. No one lets an opportunity go by on this show.

      • Smompy says:

        LOL @ “Buy My Crap” And that’d work for just about all of our wives and their various wares!

        But Sonja’s hawking feels different to me. I don’t think she’s dumb enough to think a cheap book with under-twenty-dollar toaster oven recipes is gonna improve here life financially. Not in any significant way I mean. She seems to be genuinely enamored of that little metal box on the kitchen counter that heats up when she turns the
        dial. When she talks about her recipes, she reminds me of a little kid who’s prouldy showing MOmmy some pathetic looking concotion that came out of the toaster over and saying “Look! I made this ALL BY MYSELF!”
        🙂

    • Just a Commoner says:

      YES.

      It was so liberating to blow off my weekly IHJZ 12-step meeting once I found this blog. I’m wallowing, people. WALLOWING.

    • Gypsy says:

      Bwaaaaaah! Smompy for the win! You’re an inspiration for us all. Sonja claims that all the international au pairs and maids are begging for hrt toaster oven recipes.

  91. Lorrieane says:

    Lynn,
    First thank you for this blog, couldn’t have made it thru the season without it. To be honest, can’t stand watching Jill, LuAnn or Kelly anymore. They have really turned me off on Housewives series, both New York and New Jersey. What happen to this women? I thought it was a reality series about real women. Bethenny and Alex is the only two women who really are out there like most of us, trying to make a living for our families. I would like to see more of them.
    I just love you Lynn, you have been right on from day one. No need for you to apolgize about anything. I, for one, say keep up the good work . Lorrieane

  92. Lorrieane says:

    Sorry, Bethenny and Alex are the only two women….should have proof read before posting. Sorry again.

  93. The Digger says:

    Dear kind of shocked – Thank you so much for posting your dissertation on this blog!

    I wish I had the patience to read long winded postings on blogs but I simply don’t. If I got the gist of your message you are 1. Shocked that the word hate is used in the title of the blog 2. That you don’t think anyone should hate another person that is a character on tv they have not met (what have they done to me as the viewer as the reasoning) 3. You wonder why we are giving a pass to Bethenny, Ramona, and the other women and we are just hating on Jill 4. You think the petition is a waste of time. Somewhere in your short story you also bring up the Salahis, Danielle and her daughters, Andy Cohen, the OC ladies, Twitter, NJ, the value or lack of value about opinions, Silex, and hatred – wait – “hatred” in quotes. Did I get it all?

    Here is the very short answer. People hate or don’t hate anyone they choose. People write blogs about anything they choose. People start petitions about everything. People Tweet about anything what they want. People have opinions about everything. So? Why do you care and why do you care ENOUGH to come on a blog to create such a long winded post on a blog that you don’t agree with? That in fact does make you a troll. If you came to the blog and know it is a place you don’t agree with or belong then JUST LEAVE. No need for a dissertation.

    Do you cook with shrimp? I am sure you do. I happen to think that cooking with shrimp hurts the little souls and I can hear them scream when they are being cooked. So, next I will post a small novel on the We Love To Cook Live Shrimp blog you read/post on about the psychological damage you are doing to those shrimp. Sound good??!!

    The very short answer to the name of this blog is that it is KEYWORD DRIVEN. Do you understand this concept kind of shocked? It means that GOOGLE has keywords and the title of this blog USES KEYWORDS to drive people with a dislike, hate, whatever you call relating to Jill Zarin it to this blog. See how clever I was? I included JILL ZARIN and the word HATE in the same sentence. Party down Google!!

    Hey – kind of shocked – Satchels of Gold! Cartwheels are free! Smiles are contagious! Have a great weekend and remember those who fought and paid with their lives for our democracy and the freedom of speech you so enjoy!

  94. lillybee says:

    Smompy, actually it is enough to make me want to buy a toaster oven today.

  95. mia says:

    If kelly wasnt so generally horrible to Bethenny, the “she thinks she invented the martini” joke would’ve been pretty funny. Well, actually it is still a funny little bit.

    • couchon says:

      Is it a Skinny Girl margarita or Skinny Girl martini? Memorial Day barbecue coming up! Kellamity has some nerve. She did not invent the recipe for Kellade either. Previous holiday partygoers have also mixed their Adderal with beer and likewise were unable to open glass doors.

      • mia says:

        haha, to be honest it could be margarita. I have no idea what any of these women specifically do. But Im aware that some of them are actually doing things.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        It’s the SkinnyGirl Margarita. I know because I love Tequila, lol. I wish I could buy Beth’s product around here.

  96. Smompy says:

    Re: Kelly and the oil spill – do you think it’s possible she’s been trying to help with that catastrophe by personally soaking up as much oil as she could. using her own face and hair as a sponge? Maybe that’s why she always looks so “sticky” lately?

  97. desertgal66 says:

    l…..you’ve never met her and she hasn’t done anything to your fanily….you are reacting to what was filmed 7 months ago and rationally, NO ONE could hate a tv character.

    @kind of shocked: You just spit out 21 paragraphs of antipathy towards Bethenny…a woman, I presume, you have never met and who has never done anything to you or your family, while lecturing everyone else about hostility.

    So, I’m guessing, the word “hypocrite” sits better with you than the word “hate”.

  98. boston02127 says:

    Kelly is so exhausting: Her twitter acct bio:

    Bio Official Kelly Killoren Bensimon- Mom,Model,Author,Equestrian, Editor,Designer,The Real Houswives of New York,and considered a New York City major tastemaker.

    You’d think as an editor she’d know to space after a comma. Kelly, after a comma you can skip the word “and”.

    Major tastemaker~~~ I don’t think there is such a thing as a “major tastemaker” especially when your only “considered” one. You’re either a plain old tastemaker or you’re not one.

    Designer?~~Owls were created by God. Kelly stuck a fake gems in the eyes of one
    and called it a day.

    Model~~She’s a has been.

    Author~~ A bikini book~ That is so stupid it goes without saying. I’m guessing there are about 18 words in the whole book.

    Mom~~That’s just a shame.

    My hate for her is right up there with Jill.

  99. The Digger says:

    I want to know the value of all that jewelry Jill was wearing to her skating party… a cool $ million? More? She had on three or 4 large diamond encrusted bracelets, the diamond earrings, the big honkin’ diamond rock baby ring (or was that the mother ring?) She raided the safe for this skating party. Does she go out with a security guard will all that bling on? That is a lot of servicing to Bobby. She really does make him pay big for her BJs and favors, eh?

    • boston02127 says:

      Maybe if we go scan the ice rink we could find a few loose stones that fell off when she kissed the ice.

  100. Char12 says:

    Kind of Shocked. The difference between Jill, Kelly & Luann is that they admit to what they say, they own it. Bethanny is the first one to tell you that she has a sharp tongue and can be snarky, she admits it and once more, she’ll apologize for it. I have yet to hear Jill apologize to anyone for anything she’s said or done let along admit to being wrong. And Kelly, I think we all know that Kelly can’t see or admit that she’s ever done anything wrong. She doesn’t have the capabilities to comprehend anything past a 3rd grade level. Jill on the other hand does have the capabilities to know when she’s done wrong or said something hurtful and just doesn’t care, unless of course she can get something out of it. To this day I haven’t heard her ever apologize to anyone if it didn’t benefit her in someway.

  101. JillousyHater says:

    Alternatives to use for hate? (Personally, I like “stink in the nostrils”)

    -verbs
    hate, detest, abominate, abhor, loathe; recoil at, shudder at; shrink from, view with horror, hold in abomination, revolt against, execrate; scowl; disrelish (dislike)., owe a grudge; bear spleen, bear a grudge, bear malice (malevolence) [more]; conceive an aversion to., excite hatred, provoke hatred; be hateful; stink in the nostrils; estrange, alienate, repel, set against, sow dissension, set by the ears, envenom, incense, irritate, rile; horrify; roil.

  102. Hooked On Housewives says:

    I posted this to the wrong page. Moved it here.

    I think I was looking so intently at the “Jill Unannounced” episode that I failed to notice something very peculiar. When Jillousy called Bethenny to set up the luncheon date, she did not put Bethenny on speaker. Say what? How can this be? Isn’t it an almost cardinal Andy Cohen/Bravo rule that phone calls should be on speaker? My take on this is that Jillousy didn’t have a bone to pick. She was begging. She wasn’t trying to embarrass. This just goes further to prove that Jill is such a conniving piece of crap. Had she been still “angry” at Bethenny, the whole skating rink probably would have been privvy to the conversation.

    Truthfully, I thought the call between Jillousy and Bethenny was a fake one. I say this because Jillousy had barely gotten the last digit pressed before she was saying hi Bethenny. To me it didn’t seem as though there was even enough time for the phone to ring before Jillousy was talking. But that’s just me. I don’t trust Jillousy with even the smallest thing.

    Another thing I initially missed was that Allyson supposedly went to her father’s house for the Thanksgiving holiday. This means that Mr Shapiro is still around. How come we can’t find anything out about him? It’s a little like being in court. Jillousy opened the door by mentioning him so now he is fair game. Let the hunt begin. Anyone with info on the first Mr Jillousy, spill.

    • Kat says:

      “The biggest mystery is still the ex-husband Steve Shapiro and where they lived when they were married”
      Posted by annoyingjill on hub pages
      http://hubpages.com/hub/I-Hate-Jill-Zarin-Best-Episode-Ever-May-13-2010

      • Had Enough! says:

        OK, we can’t find anything on Mr. Shapiro because (a) it is an extremely common name so within more, no point in googling and (b) those of us in the greater NY metropolitan area are too lazy to go to the courthouses where the relevant docs may be filed – we don’t know if they were divorced in Nassau, Suffolk, Kings (Manhattan) or whatever the county is for Queens. Because these records are not online. And they may not even be open to the public if you do go to the courthouse (though they are in most states). And even then, you might get only a 10-year old address, because if there’s been no ongoing litigation over Allyson or child-support, there would be no recent documents.

        Plus all this is totally stalker.

        Now about that skating party. Apart from the fact that it was NOT the Wollman rink, I don’t even think she had the whole rink for her party. There were so many people there who paid no attention to her or her friends and family. There is a party room there, so she could have rented the party room. It can hold 10-50 people. She could have rented the entire rink but then why so many people who seemed to be completely uninvolved in the party?

      • Just a Commoner says:

        Ally or someone in the family said that she is very close to her dad and spends a lot of time with him and his wife and her three step-siblings. Which may be why she doesn’t emulate her mom’s behavior. Maybe she has some actual good role models in her immediate circle. That would be nice, wouldn’t it?

  103. DarkSonnet says:

    While taking a break from planting flowers, I found these quips from a Bravo producer, or “showrunner” as they refer to themselves. They were posted while doing the “Talk Bubble” twitter exchange ( sponsored by Bravo) that is concurrent with the show being aired.

    I am puzzled by this and I’m putting it out there for the great minds to interpret. ;o)

    “K felt like B’s gift put salt in wound of hobag faceoff”
    ????

    Here a few other tweets that were made during the season:

    “Hey everybody! Hope your ready for an ABFAB explosive episode”
    ” Presidio Del Mar was to die for! I got to stay with the ladies..someone had to keep an eye on them”
    “Scary Island took a toll on Kelly. Jelly beans anyone? ”
    “Jill thinks her surprise is the perfect upstage”

    “Jill is a better spokesperson for Zarin Fabric than she is for Kodak. But what she really wants to do is direct!”
    “Jill says she had to move things along. But is she really just a control freak?”
    “Really Jill? This is a workshop on class! Stop the Tweeting!!”

    “Sonja is old friends with LuAnn and Ramona. And she still agreed to join our series. (I kid, because I love)”
    “Jill knows everyone, literally. So this is a coup for LuAnn”

    “Jill sooo doesn’t get Brooklyn. The heaps of trash are a metaphor…”

    “Simon is regretting spending all that time on curtains and not the seating chart. (Psst Jill, you’re critiquing his wife)”

    “yes, she’s really peeing on the stick while we waited in hall.. ”
    “Bethenny was a trooper through this difficult time”
    “Bethenny’s really going through it this season…does Jill even know half of Bethenny’s story?”

    “When Bobby dispenses sage wisdom, Jill buys lingerie. It’s Pavlovian”
    “In Eastern Europe, food lines and interrogations are separate activities”
    “so “shell-shocked”, Jill ordered extra cheese”
    “Once again, fashion saves mankind”

    “What do you think? Was it a good idea for Ramona to have invited Bethenny? What was she thinking?”
    “Luann is a deer in the headlights!!!”
    “Watch Luann in the background. She doesn’t know what to do with herself! This is like WWE for housewives!!”
    “Remember when Alex said that Jill keeps score? She wrote down all of the ways in which Bethenny hurt her”
    “Leave it to Luann to break the ice! Tea anyone?”
    “Ramona loves a cage match!!”
    “Oh hey! Do Jill’s tears mean she’s not a cold bitch??”

    “Fun Fact: Luann didn’t know that New York had laundromats”

    “I still can’t believe Jill TWICE this season got LuAnn to eavesdrop, unidentified, on a call. Phone etiquette?????”
    “This was supposed to be a quick call. To arrange a meeting. We never expected what you’re about to witness….”
    “I’ve seen a lot of feuding, working on the Real Housewives series, but this one was a black hole. It sucks everyone in…”

    “What do you think? Is Kelly lying? Or just paranoid?”
    “Kelly is channeling Darryl Hannah in Clan of the Cave Bear”
    “Um. What is Kelly wearing? Adult red diaper?”

    “I love Mario’s expression here. It pretty much sums up their relationship”
    (renewal of vows proposal/announcement)

    I attempted to keep this brief, one “War and Peace” a day should suffice. ;o)

    • Kat says:

      These are precious!
      “When Bobby dispenses sage wisdom, Jill buys lingerie. It’s Pavlovian”
      “Fun Fact: Luann didn’t know that New York had laundromats”
      “Ramona loves a cage match!!”

    • Nancyusa says:

      outstanding…thanks

  104. JillousyHater says:

    I don’t know much about “celebrities” or “faux celebrities” like Jill Zarin, but doesn’t she have PR people who advise her on her image and give her advice on what to say or when she should keep her stupid trap shut….it seems every time she opens her mouth she just buries herself even further…a true PR nightmare. I thought she was bragging that she has the same agent that handles Brad Pitt.

    Does anyone else think that maybe she is “testing out” her blog by posting comments of Facebook first to see how they are received?

    I don’t want RHONY to go off the air because I really enjoy it, however, when it does, I pray that Jill Zarin is permanently off of tv and nobody recognizes her any longer – – she’s such a famewhore that I think that would bother her more than anything.

    P.S. @KindofShocked….liked others have stated too…I also disliked Jill BEFORE this season started – I found it distasteful how she criticized Simon and Alex’s children and I thought she had a big mouth and had to be the center of attention. Also, I always found the friendship between Betheny and Jill to be strange – kind of an “odd couple”

    • Just a Commoner says:

      “Does anyone else think that maybe she is “testing out” her blog by posting comments of Facebook first to see how they are received?”

      I think she has her blog set so that it posts on her Facebook page right away. I read another blogger who does this. It’s disappointing to go look at the FB page and see the same dreck that’s on the blog. Maybe they think they have two exclusive sets of readers?

  105. Squirrels says:

    I think the editors play where’s waldo in their spare time. Take for ex: this little hidden treasure filmed at the art sale.

    Alex and Simon arrive to Sonja’s stripped bare apt. At first glance it’s as if we are to be treated to a never-ending love fest of Hello, how are yous. Included in this fantasy world are Kelly, Sonja, Bethenny and Luann. Everyone suffers through the double cheek kiss-a-thon. Then BAMMMMM !!! I get it! The whole purpose of this scene lead-in is to highlight Jen’s major double cheek greeting protocol disaster. Her hesitation and draw back mid pucker clearly indicates ….. TRAINEE !!!
    The editors did show a sense of humor on this one. ☺

  106. JillousyHater says:

    @HookedonHousewives

    I looked up Jill on Intelius by her maiden name….if you look to the right, it always brings up “related people” so it looks like her ex-husband, Bruce D. Shapiro is 74 years old, which sounds familiar to me for some reason.

    http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=jill&qmi=&qn=kamen&qs=NY&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

  107. JillousyHater says:

    I searched for Jill under her maiden name on Intelius which always brings up people you’ve been linked to at any time in your history…..if you look to the right it says Bruce D. Shapiro who is 74 years old – which sounds familiar to me, although I don’t know why.

    http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=jill&qmi=&qn=kamen&qs=NY&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

  108. JillousyHater says:

    OK, this is the 3rd time I’m attempting to post this…..I apologize in advance if this gets posted 3x….I don’t know what’s going on….

    I went to Intelius.com and looked up Jill by her maiden name. In case you’re not familiar with this site, it often lists people in your history, going back over your entire lifetime….if you look to the right, it lists Bruce D. Shapiro who is 74 years old….looks like our Jill may have been a little gold digger even back then.

    http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=jill&qmi=&qn=kamen&qs=NY&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

  109. wolverinedg says:

    Someone upthread mentioned wanting to see a show about interesting women doing interesting things, not the trash TV RHONY & RHONJ/A have become. I can get with that. I love Team BRAS/sometimes BRASS!! B already has a show, but what about the rest? Not sure what Sonja does, but I think Alex owns a consignment store. (?) That could be Pawn Stars for Chicks! And I think they need to do something with poor Jen besides using her for stage dressing or hiding her behind furniture. She has a good business creating parties/events; it would be fun to see some of the things she pulls together. See, Bravo, we don’t need the *DRAMA* that Jill, Countless, & KooKooPuffs like to stir up.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      Alex will occasionally be on Bethenny’s show, I’m pretty sure, like at her baby shower.

  110. lillybee says:

    I kinda like LuLu’s voice. I think she could do well narrating documentaries.

  111. desertgal66 says:

    How is Steve Shapiro anyone’s business? He’s a private citizen. He doesn’t appear on the show. He’s irrelevant to Jill’s actions and behaviors today. Yes, Jill mentioned “Ally’s dad”, but they’re divorced. They’re done. I don’t see her remark as “opening the door” for digging up personal details about the guy (if there are any to be found) and posting them on an Internet blog.

    • morning says:

      I agree. Ally has said she has a good relationship with her dad and his family and more importantly, the fact that Ally isn’t exactly like her mother, should speak volumes as to his character. Leave him alone.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      @ Desertgsall66

      WTF did I catch you the wrong way. It was tongue in cheek. I really don’t care if anything is ever found about Mr Shapiro. Seeing how Jillousy is such a queen I just wondered out loud who was the man who had the good sense to divorce her ass. In addition, I don’t think I asked anyone to plaster anything all over the internet. If you have noticed any of the few posts that I have done they are all in keeping with the blog premise, IHJZ or IHKKB. I don’t plaster but I do read what others plaster.

      • couchon says:

        Some of us are a bit overprotective of Jillzilla’s ex. He suffered enough. He made a horrible mistake in his youth and married you know who. I hate Mr.Shapiro’s ex.

        • Just a Commoner says:

          OK, that made me laugh out loud ferreals. “Horrible mistake” is right!

  112. JillousyHater says:

    I thought her ex-husband was perhaps Bruce Shapiro who was 76 years old so that meant perhaps Jill had a gold-digging past before (as she apparently recommends in her book) , but it was Steve Shapiro?

    • Kat says:

      I don’t know if there is any truth to the name.
      I agree he is a private citizen.
      As you post I am interested if Jill was a gold digger and was trading up.
      Or if she was cheating w/Bawby and activily busting up his marriage.

    • morning says:

      Somewhere along the way someone posted a picture of Ally as a little girl with both parents. What little you could see of her dad, he appeared to me not to be 20 years older than Jill.

  113. vilzvet says:

    More twitter gems: There is a link on Kelly’s that goes to an OK Mag interview…she was asked the last time she went out with her “best friend”….her answer was that they went “out for sushi and to catch up on gossip.” LOLOL! More of that word again….she also said she has NOT been home in FIVE YEARS but that her girls go each summer. Her parents come HERE. I think that’s a bit strange….

    • Just a Commoner says:

      I’m from near where she is and my mom lives there now. Rockford is pretty dull. It’s a depressed area, lots of empty storefronts, lots of strip malls, not much to do. There are some nice old neighborhoods with beautiful houses but it’s kinda out in the middle of nowhere. Chicago is about 80 miles away but it’s a very boring drive. I do not go back there any more than I have to and I am hardly a party girl like Kelly.

      I saw an interview with her from maybe a year ago where she said her girls were with her parents for Easter in Florida while she was staying in NYC. That seemed odd to me, especially since she goes on and on about how she hates that she can’t spend every waking minute with them because she adores them so so so so much.

  114. anutha hata says:

    I wasn’t one bit surprised that Alex has after-effects from the Kelly situation. If you see a re-run, all you have to do is look at her face while Kelly was flipping-out. I noticed it because she wasn’t saying anything, but it was obvious that she was being traumatized by Kelly’s behavior.
    I wouldn’t call anything that happened with Alex a break-down or anything like that at all. Personally, I think that they were all in a state of shock at the point when Jill showed-up. Whatever happened to Alex was a perfectly normal response to severe emotional stress.
    Asking Jill to leave, in my opinion, was rude.
    But really she was the first person who they saw, who had not experienced all of the mess with Kelly, so BOOM! Jill got the brunt of the ladies’ reaction.
    Bad-timing for her I guess.
    Seriously, I had been wondering what happened to Alex after she returned from the trip. It looks like she has recovered completely at this point.
    I think the producers let it go too far, and they’re lucky that no one sued them for putting them in that situation.

    • vilzvet says:

      It’s not like Ramona actually asked her to leave, was it? More like Jill said that she was going to leave and no one stopped her 🙂 Going to have to watch again…

    • couchon says:

      Kellamity was terrorizing Alex at dinner. She told Alex that she was channeling the devil and vampires. We don’t know what this bat out of hell did to these captive women that night. We do know Kellamity was gone the next morning and the remaining women looked exhausted. So hearing that familiar voice blaring “surprise” during my mani-pedi could make me feel like crying too. I hate that horn blower, Jill Zarin.

  115. ImStillToni says:

    you would have thought the mystery tweet was about STDs or something! LMAOOOOO thanks as always Lynn, these people are fuggin nuts! I now have all sorts of crazy NJ people following me on twitter and I swear they are all part of the Manzo MOB!

  116. Adgirl says:

    desertgal66 – I agree with you about the civilians. Leave ’em alone. If my ex were on TV I’d really be upset if people started poking around in my life. But, I’m a pretty private person in general. The last thing I want is for someone to out me as a teenage shoplifter, illegal substance user and that I never got my high school diploma (dumbest thing I ever, ever did – or didn’t do.).
    I guess that’s why I don’t reach out directly to celebrities via twitter, email or snail mail. They live in my TV. I make and read remarks about them anonymously on a message board. That’s my comfort level.
    OT Alert: I’m even having a quandary about contacting an author. I bought a used book for $1.00 – “Haywire” by Brooke Hayward, written in 1977. It’s about her tragic family, (her parents- actress Margaret Sullavan, & super agent Leland Heyward). Anyway, I noticed that my book is a first edition, signed by Brooke and inscribed to a friend of hers (first name only). Now I don’t know if I should contact the author to see if this friend may have accidently donated the book.
    It feels intrusive, especially since her ex husband Dennis Hooper just passed away.
    Anywhoo – that’s my take on being an audience member. I’d rather keep the distance between us.

    • Squirrels says:

      Do a bit of digging and find out who is this friend. Could be a cool mystery or just fun to find the original owner.

      • Adgirl says:

        All I know is his name is Ken and he showed her San Francisco in 1977 or 78. There is mutual friend named whom I looked up but may be desceased.
        I will try to track her address down on the East Coast.

      • Adgirl says:

        I’d put up the full inscription and all I’ve learned so far but it is soooo OT that I think it would be annoying.

        I love a good mystery. I will locate and address for her somehow.

  117. upperwestsidedude says:

    While Kelly believe that Alex is channeling the devil, I have always believed the LuMann was channeling Wilma Flintstone. She really needs to step away from the one should numbers and the suede boots.
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  118. upperwestsidedude says:

    Let me try this again…

  119. Hooked On Housewives says:

    I’m a lover not a fighter. So my apologies to everyone I offended by mentioning Jillousy’s first husband. Personally my hat goes off to him. He probably didn’t like the heat so he got out of the kitchen.

    • Adgirl says:

      I’m sure you didn’t offend anyone! I’ll bet he’s probably very happy to have escaped that relationship.

    • boston02127 says:

      There’s nothing wrong with being curious. If he pulled me aside to tell his story about Jill, I’d kick off my shoes and get comfortable.

  120. Gypsy says:

    Al Sharpton checks in about Kelly:

    I can see Jill’s ex doing a happy dance every time he sees the show, “Thank Gawd for divorce.”

  121. JillousyHater says:

    Yes, I agree that the ex is innocent in all this….the poor guy should be pitied for whatever time he did have to put up with Jill. But I just can’t help but wonder if he watches RHONY and is disgusted with her public displays of rudeness like the rest of us & is glad he no longer has to deal with the bitch.

  122. Quincy IL says:

    Oh, I am sure the ex of Jill has to deal with Jill. I bet there is child support and constant calls to the ex.

  123. little rock says:

    first of all, i’m tired of kelly and jill calling st john scarey island and poison island. if anything,it’s fucking fantasy island or maybe alternate realm island because clearly kelly had a different vacation from the other women. and that effing (used up my quota of the f word – see above) jill. the only thing poison about that place was her presence. kelly said to jill,luann,and jen that bethenny admitted to her that she (bethenny) went out of way to create a “smear campaign” in the press about her. ok fine, we know it’s a lie but why not have kelly prove it. how? by letting us see the rest of the footage that wasn’t shown. bethenny was NEVER alone with kelly on that trip. i’ll bet she didn’t say a word to kelly that couldn’t be corroborated by one of the others. so come on kelly, prove it. i said this the other day, i don’t twitter or facebook, so i don’t know how to ask kelly myself. if anybody feels like doing it, i would love you forever. now, about that effing jill. her bitching about not being offered the toilet or water after “a 9 hour trip” is right up there with bobby having his “fucking throat cut from ear to ear”. plus, i still want to know why she twitted (that’s what a twit does when she goes on twitter) that she was going to LXTV to work after the reunion taping. if it’s a lie i want her caught in it. i’m sorry, that wonderful, glorious face plant on the ice isn’t nearly enough pay back. i want her lies exposed and i know it’s too late for the reunion, so someone please tweet her for me.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      @Little Rock

      You go girl. You know I love it when you talk dirty. LOL. Excellent points though. Let the harpies prove the crap that comes rolling out of their mouths. Prove it and it can be put to bed. Oh. That’s right they can’t prove it becaue it’s not true.

  124. Quincy IL says:

    These reality stars are something…

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/19/entertainment/la-et-onthemedia19-20100519

    I was ticked when Vicky Gunvalson wrote that blog supporting Jill at the NYC Bravo site. My thought was that she didn’t like Alexis criticizing her comments and then she takes sides. Now, Vicky is playing Jill and invited her friends for a televisions faux interview. The Bravo producer involved has been canned.

    Jill should rush out there to support her friend, Vicky.

    • Katiecoo says:

      Jill and Vicky are very similar in personality–Narcisstic attention hogs who play victim while accusing everyone else of playing the victim. Yuk. Now THAT would be a reality show…put them on a show together with a dingbat crew of Lynn and Kelly and watch them eat each other alive (I know I”m going straight to hell fo r saying that).

    • Kat says:

      That is an excellent article. Mentions LXtv in NYC replacing the local news in that time slot.
      The USA is sadly lacking for substansive unfiltered news reporting.
      Vicki from OC reporting on the credit card reforms! Gimme a break.

      • couchon says:

        Another news panelist-the countless on Larry King.

        • Kat says:

          As Kellamity would say, “filler”.
          Countless just wasn’t convincing as an “expert” panelist. I admit grudgingly to watching it.
          But this is what King served up.

  125. Katiecoo says:

    Couple of thoughts:

    1. I saw Sex and the City 2 last night and honestly they could put those 4 women stuck in an elevator for 2 hours I’d eat it up because the relationships are so rich and rewarding to watch (and heartwarming) and they go through all kinds of things together but are NEVER mean spirited and snarky and outright crazy and bullies to EACH OTHER that we see on this show. That’s what makes that series wildly popular and what RHONY could have been but will never be now. I’m hoping Bethenny’s new show has that kind of “flavor”.

    2. I’ve been thinking all season that it looked like Jill had quite a bit of work done. We know she had a breast reduction but it also looks like she had some work done on her face, we know hair extensions and she’s lost some weight. Outwardly, she looks better than she ever has but all that “glam” brought out the WORST in her. Sometimes when very overweight women (or men) lose the weight and embrace a new identity, it doesn’t always bring out the best in their personality. I just find it ironic and Jill, in an attempt to become the “glamour girl” of this season, doing so much work on her OUTSIDE “beauty” revealed the ugliness that has earned her (forever now) the title of “Most Hated Housewife of the entire Housewife Franchise”. I don’t think she’ll ever lose that crown either. I know I’ll never see her as other than what she’s shown this season. Done.

  126. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I noticed a trend on other boards which were linked above. A common thought amongt Jill lovers is that Ramona knew Jill was coming and tried to act shocked. Of course she didn’t know that witch was coming. She would have told her not to come. Some said she had to have given her directions. How crazy is that? Jill has previously mentioned that Bravo paid for the vacation. Of course they would have given her directions and “paid” for the private airplane just to sabotage, oops I mean surprise the girls. They also said Alex overreacted to Jill’s entrance. Absolutely not. How many of us haven’t been in a battle with a mean girl and have her catch you by surprise? She’s exhausted, trying to relax, when that trash walks in with her whipping boy in tow. She proceeds to greet everyone and pointedly ignores her to further humiliate her? I would have been screaming you have got to be sh**ting me! If this bitch is staying I am effing out of here!

  127. otaypanky says:

    Hey. Agreed with leaving Shapiro alone. Also agreed with leaving shocked alone. She is not a troll. She did not disrupt this site. She stated an opinion. I thought we respected that here. I understand her stance. She did not insult anyone here. What are WE becoming?

  128. JillousyHater says:

    @Otaypanky – everyone is of course entitled to their opinions or even to defend Jill! But Shocked did kind of did insult people here – Lynn’s use of the word “hate” and for making sweeping judgments about everyone on this blog…she said, ….”No one here would have had the guts to hate Jill when she was exactly the same for two seasons…..”

    So I just think people here were just defending Lynn and ourselves…

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  130. lillybee says:

    Jill and Vicki should be bffs. They are so alike.

  131. Kelly Jelly Beansomeone says:

    One thing that’s bugging me is the preview video of Simon and Alex (“Business before Gossip” or whatever it’s called). The meeting with the publishing agent was fine and sweet, but the dinner portion in which Alex relays the details of the island vacation is SO staged. Simon is a horrible actor. Of course the two of them were in frequent phone contact when Alex was away; Simon even acknowledges receiving disturbing texts from her and wondering if he should go out to dinner etc…
    So obviously they have talked the whole trip over, picked out a few things to bring to our attention and then they sit down and follow the shorthand script over dinner.

    So assuming all this is true, the two things that Simon and Alex wanted to emphasize were Kelly’s frequent disappearances and the prevalence of candy.

    And I’m confused, because that makes it look like they’re trying to get the viewing audience to think drugs, right?
    But isn’t Simon the one to caution us through Twitter not to jump to conclusions about drugs; that he had no reason to believe Kelly was on any?

    I’m thinking more and more that Bravo/Alex/Simon’s decision to feature more of Alex and less of Simon has been a very good thing for Alex. Simon is quite cheesy and a bit of a ham in front of the camera. I think it’s been good to have him in smaller doses. He should stick to blogging the show.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I really wish Simon would serve up a blog from this week. NOW ! Impatient! 😉

    • mia says:

      its tough to say how much bravo edited out of the conversation. Did you watch the pizza in the “Kellys side of the story scene?” It went from a whole pizza to nothing. I can only imagine how much she said in between.

  132. Katiecoo says:

    Ok just listened to the Sonja radio interview (great find btw) and this is what I think about her comments about how everyone “evolves” and how the fans will be ok with it. I think Jill is throwing her usual daggers/victim shit but melts down, cries, people feel sorry for her somewhat (the tender hearted ones) and B is just so damn over the whole thing and is pretty untriggered by Jill at this point that she just throws her a bone with some compassion knowing she’s moving on anyway so wth. Kelly is probably treated somewhat similarly as she was at that table in St. Barths or whereever they were. Kid gloves, diffuse her, everyone play nice to her, get her to calm down (while knowing she’s crazier than a loon).

    So it’s likely it ends on some kind of friendLY note but not that they all emerge back as FRIENDS again, ya know? I think this fits with Simons comments about the BRAS and how they held their heads high. They take the high road ultimately but the audience of course knows the truth about who’s who.

    That’s my prediction because I am just that obsessed. 😀

    • morning says:

      I agree totally. And when it goes down differently I’ll hide in shame with you.

  133. Adgirl says:

    Yeah that Alex & Simon dinner was hard to watch because he kept interuppting with idiotic remarks.

    Re: Jill finding the villa. Agree that Bravo probably assisted her, also Kelly was calling and texting all night with Jill, so could be her. I’m sure the villa has a “name” so it couldn’t be that hard to find. Maybe it’s named Scarey Villa.

  134. Rusty says:

    Have I been neglecting telling you all just exactly how much I hate jill zarin?

  135. A former Jill fan says:

    It is highly disrespectful of kelly and jill to call the island faked names. Like a slap in the face to those who live there.

    • boston02127 says:

      I agree. But they could call it shit island and from what I’ve seen of it, I’d still visit. The two of them are scary humans.

  136. anniieee says:

    Great blog on Kelly… has all of her bizarro tweets…

    http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/shows/rhnyc3/commentary/cl-08-p1.html

    • boston02127 says:

      Ugg….Just ugg.
      I hate Kelly. Reading that made me want to puke. She’s dumber than
      a box of hair.

  137. desertgal66 says:

    Hooked On Housewives says:
    May 29, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    @ Desertgsall66

    WTF did I catch you the wrong way. It was tongue in cheek. I really don’t care if anything is ever found about Mr Shapiro. Seeing how Jillousy is such a queen I just wondered out loud who was the man who had the good sense to divorce her ass. In addition, I don’t think I asked anyone to plaster anything all over the internet. If you have noticed any of the few posts that I have done they are all in keeping with the blog premise, IHJZ or IHKKB. I don’t plaster but I do read what others plaster.

    @Hooked – I was responding to your comment that Shapiro is “fair game” because Jill ‘outed’ him, but I didn’t realize your comment was tongue in cheek. That’s the downside of the Internet – the context of comments sometimes doesn’t come across. No offense taken or intended. 🙂

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      @Desert Gal

      Thank you. I (heart) all the women on here. I don’t want to offend anyone.

  138. desertgal66 says:

    otaypanky says:
    May 29, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Hey. Agreed with leaving Shapiro alone. Also agreed with leaving shocked alone. She is not a troll. She did not disrupt this site. She stated an opinion. I thought we respected that here. I understand her stance. She did not insult anyone here. What are WE becoming?

    I agree that shocked isn’t a troll, and I get why s/he finds the word “hate” to be too strong, but it IS a little hypocritical for her/him to harangue people here-and 21 paragraphs certainly counts as ranting, I think-about displaying animosity towards Jill Zarin while s/he was doing the same thing towards Bethenny Frankel.

    For the record, I didn’t like Jill in the first season. I didn’t like her in the second season. I don’t like her now. I’d have said that on this blog in the first season, but it didn’t exist then.

    Yeah, Bethenny can be snarky. She’s a spontaneous wise ass. But, here’s the thing – she never pretended otherwise. And, yes, she was dismissive and cruel towards Alex and Simon and Ramona during the first two seasons, especially the first. But, here’s the other thing – Bethenny gives people a chance. For example, she’s been willing to talk to Alex, willing to get to know her better, willing to rethink her opinions. She’s open minded in that respect.

    Jill and Kelly, on the other hand, for as much as they proclaim themselves to be “real” and “honest” – not so much. They are vindictive, judgmental, and maliciously dishonest.

  139. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Re: Calling the island fake names…

    I absolutely agree. Who are they to try to sully a beautiful island just because they are crazyand had personal issues with their castmates. Even though Kelly acted a fool on the Olga, I am sure alot of wealthier fans will be renting her out. Likewise if we had ever known the real name of the island, it too would have benefitted from the Bravo exposure.

  140. Hater says:

    I hope I’m catching up with you guys.

    I hate that fugly, shrill harpy with a red-hot passion. If you took Peg Bundy out of Chicago and moved her to L.I. you’d have Jill only Jill has less class than Peg.

    I still laugh at the stupid twit telling someone to get her a diet Coke because she needed shuga. Idiot!

    I hope Alex and Simon return and that Upper East Side nitwit gets the heave ho. Cannot stand this harridan and her nasty, backstabbing ways.

  141. Amber...Real Wife says:

    By the way, I noticed alot of outrage at Jill’s surprise visit, which of course included Bawwbby. However, little has been said about Bawwbby being there at all! Come on, I know Jill has emasculated Bawwbby but he is still male. It was a girlfriends weekend. Everyone knows how Ramona feels about men intruding on her ladies only events. This is another example of narcissist Jill imposing her will on others and even controlling Ramona’s own event! Had she not been on bad terms with Alex and B, she would have forced Ramona to accept Bawwbby the Eunich as an extra guest. She doesn’t have balls, she has ball the size of planets!

  142. desertgal66 says:

    I don’t think asking Jill to leave was rude.

    1. Jill had been on the phone with ALL of them the night before. It was explained to her what had gone down with Kelly-and she also knew how incoherent and crazed Kelly was acting, because Kelly had called her numerous times. Yet, Jill said not a word about the fact that she was planning to show up the next day. Her excuse is that she wanted it to be a surprise, which is just a bunch of bullshit.

    2. Jill says that she wanted to talk to Bethenny before the holidays, and that was why she flew down and took a boat over to St. John. Yet, as has been pointed out numerous times, she live only a few blocks from Bethenny in New York. If she was so interested in working things out with Bethenny, she could have walked over to her apartment at any time. If she was so interested in working things out with Bethenny, given how upset she got when Bethenny “ambushed” her at Ramona’s apartment, then she should have given B. a heads up, and said, “Hey. I’m thinking about coming to St. John-maybe we could sit together and talk this out?” Instead, she shows up the day before they were all supposed to leave, knowing what had gone down in the days before? That sounds more like an attempt to catch Bethenny unawares, where she couldn’t escape, and forcing the issue.

    3. Jill’s excuse for not going on the trip was that she had to help Ally. So, she tells Ramona she can’t go. Yet, by her own admission, she started planning the “surprise” two weeks before, even as she was telling Ramona she couldn’t go. That’s just crap.

    4. According to Mario, Jill tried to get all the girls to bypass Ramona’s trip and go with her to St. Bat’s instead. Which would have a) hurt Ramona’s feelings terribly; and b) put her in the position of controlling what happened. That’s a person who wants to work things out? No.

    So, no, I don’t think the reception she received was rude. I think it was unsurprising.

    • anutha hata says:

      OK-I know that I said that I thought it was rude to ask Jill to leave, and really I can’t remember if she was asked directly, or told that she couldn’t stay. I just remember how Ramona apologized when she walked Jill to the car, -Out of context, I think it would be rude. Knowing what we know, and all that led up to it, it was perfectly normal.

  143. mia says:

    I know this is a forum that thinks Jill is the worst, but honestly I think Vicki is the most horrible housewife. Jill is a close second, only because she’s so pathetic every now and then I almost feel bad for her.

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  145. SassafrasDonna says:

    WOW, Lynn, you’re getting MUCH more comments now. Good for you, it’s a GREAT blog. I just wanted to say that I think Ramona got a crappy time slot at HSN b/c first they want to see if the product will actually sell before they put it in primetime. And to let her get used to the “selling” aspect of it all. For some reason, those shows sell jewelry at night a lot too. I don’t know why though.

  146. Quincy IL says:

    Ramona mentioned that she and Jill have been friends for 15 years. Jill has been married to Bobby for around 7 years. So, Ramona must have known Jill when she was a poor shop girl. Sales people at Saks don’t make huge salaries and live in the lap of luxury. It was nice of Ramona to befriend a shop girl way back then.

    It has always bothered me that many women get their position in society from their husband. Bethenny, Ramona, and Alex have worked hard and created their own places, but Sonja, the Countess, Kelly, and Jill were chosen and rewarded for their marriage contract with prominent men. I agree with Ramona. Be capable of going it on your own because depending on another person is a choice you may regret.

    Oh, Sonja’s magic 9.5 years and the marriage disappears? I’ve seen that number before. Some states have a 10 years number for settlement of marital assests. The military have a 10 year break point for the pensions that a divorced wife will get.
    10 years and a kid… yep…. Mr. Morgan’s family and his team of lawyers must have been watching that marriage tick by.

    Sonja must spend a lot of money. She’s tried to sell that town house several times. I think Sonja should have been on Larry King discussing the Dutchess and the cash rather than the Countess. Sonja is really friends with the heads of faux monarchies. It is expensive to run around in those crowds.

  147. Quincy IL says:

    Jill used Ally when her ploy to ruin Ramona’s VI vacation failed. She uses Ally all of the time. She implied that the Countess using her daughter’s 15th birthday as an excuse to not go to Ramona’s adventure was a good excuse. People do this all the time in real life. Passive/aggessive people do it. We just have the opportunity to watch Jill and the Countess do it and then we are lucky enough to have this forum to point it out and ask, “Did you see that?” LOL

  148. kathy says:

    I think hate is being used in a kind of tongue and cheek way. When a person goes on a reality show and starts swanning around like she’s the queen of new york, she’s open for target practice! This 3rd season Jill Zarin has shown her true colors. So full of herself that nobody can stand her any more!This season has been so uncomfortable to watch. It has always been my favorite of the House wives shows. With nasty Jill and CRAZYKELLY, not so much. I like Alex. She is an adultand she acts like one. Ramona has a good heart and Bethenny is just fun and interesting to watch. I think LuAnn is salvegable; because, there are times when you see the real person under ” theCountess”. If CRAZYKELLY is on next season ,I ‘m not watching. I feel bad for her kids. Speaking of kids, what did Ashley (N J) do? I’m out of the loop.

  149. rosefountain says:

    I’m not a fan of Ashley, liking you and toni’s blogs though, nice to see someone that can see through the manzo’s etc.. I blog on the housewives on other things, just started, come check it out

    http://rosefountain.wordpress.com/

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