I Hate Jill Zarin Weekend Update May 29, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Weekend Update                            May 29, 2010

I hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day weekend. 

I just reviewed Bravo’s four clips that are “sneak peeks” at next week’s episode.  Jill does it again!  Not quite in the horrific way she did on what she calls, “scary island” but she pops in on Ramona as she is preparing for her vow renewal ceremony. 

How many times has Jill told Ramoner that she is not a good friend, they are not friends anymore or simply, “you’re not my friend!”  I don’t think there is another way for Jill to say it, over the past three years starting with Season one when Ramona had a dinner party at her house in the Hamptons and failed to invite Jill.  “I thought she was my friend” were Jill’s words. 

I really don’t get the relationship between these two women.  I don’t have any friendships like this, the anger and the ugly words that have been used in interviews, talking behind one another’s backs and what is said face to face is just so mean.  We rarely see the two of them getting along, this one scene Bravo so kindly shared with us, is very rare.  Typically they are going at each other like two hens in a hen house.   Ramona called Jill “self- absorbed” during the last episode, do you suppose Jill forgave her when she saw that? 

The scene at Jennifer’s house was probably one of the worst, Jill screamed at Ramona, just because she could.  She clearly was angry because she wasn’t “in the know” about Bethenny’s life and it was killing her.  She needed someone to lash out at and Ramona happened to be standing there.  In the end, even as Jill continued to berate Ramona, Ramona tried to hug Jill and calm her down.  What is it with Ramona?  Bethenny is nice to her and she insults and criticizes her on the Brooklyn Bridge, Jill is a horrible monster to her and she hugs her.  I was impressed with how great Ramona was to Bethenny on the trip, it seemed she was sincerely concerned about Bethenny. 

If I were Ramona, I’d be DONE with Jill Zarin!  But that’s just me!  I wouldn’t call what these two women have a friendship.  I would call it a relationship of convenience because they are cast mates, nothing more.  It is interesting that Ramona knew both Jill and Sonja for many years yet the two had never met.  It is clear to me that the true “socialites” who are really in New York’s in crowd are Sonja, Luann and Ramona.  Jill is just the wife of a fabric store owner.  I would really like to know how Ramona and Jill met. 

Another preview clip shows Ramona and her daughter getting their hair done at an expensive, upscale salon.  Is it just me or is Avery so NOT into this vow renewal ceremony?  Her attitude toward this entire project has not improved since Ramona first asked her to be Maid of Honor.   I guess it is fairly typical but Avery seems so embarrassed by her mother all the time. 

A few things I didn’t cover in my last blog that I wanted to mention.  When Kelly was shown in an interview talking about “Jill On Ice”, she said that she’s never heard Jill talk about anything “sporty” and went on to say, “the only thing she ever talked about was Hot Chocolate”.  What the hell was that?  Are we so jaded by Kelly’s strange behavior that we didn’t even notice that?  It was tame in relation to what we had seen in the past, is that why we didn’t even acknowledge that she said that?  Jill only ever talked about hot chocolate?  What the hell?  When it comes to Jill taking about sports, she only ever mentioned hot chocolate?  Comeon!  Had the vacation fiasco never happened, we would be talking about how strange that comment was.

The other thing I touched on briefly was Kelly’s interpretation of the events on St. John.  Luann seemed just as horrified that Kelly used the word “ho-bag” because it just isn’t used in 2010, who uses that term anymore?  The fact that she called Bethenny that to her face didn’t even seem to bother Luann all that much.  Here’s the thing though, it wasn’t even Bethenny that told Kelly to have a one night stand, it was Sonja!  Sonja wasn’t even mentioned!  Kelly completely skipped over the fact that it was Sonja who kept going on about sex and that one night stands are something that everyone should have before they die.

I still don’t completely understand why everyone was so adamant about ensuring that Luann had the complete story and convincing Luann of what truly happened.  Who the hell cares what Luann thinks? 

Jennifer Gilbert was a huge disappointment.  Obviously she was much more involved in the filming than we’ve seen because she had tweeted to me that she was concerned because she had been “snarky” in the final three episodes.  She wasn’t even in the final three episodes.  We know, however, that Bravo decided to extend the Virgin Island vacation from two episodes to three cutting out Jen from at least one episode.  The most recent episode did include Jen but she barely said a word, only was shown in that horrible blouse with the huge ugly bow at the collar.  I think the producers decided a while back that they made a mistake including her on the show and have cut out most, if not all of her scenes. 

The main reason I was routing for Jen was because we need replacement parts for the people we want to remove.  If I had my way we would be light three housewives next season, Jill, Kelly and Luann.  It isn’t clear to me why New York has so many “extra” housewives.  The other series have 5 housewives, although I think we all agree that New Jersey needs some fresh blood, but why does New York need eight?  (if you include Jen)  Was this in anticipation of someone leaving?  We know Bethenny is filming her own show but that doesn’t mean she is finished with RHONY, there has been no official announcement of her departure.  If her show takes off, it is likely she won’t return but it isn’t unheard of for someone to be on two shows.  If her show doesn’t take off, she can always return to RHONY with no break in the action.  

Did producers anticipate having to replace Kelly when they brought Jen in late in the season?  Did producers ever anticipate having to replace Luann since her divorce, since she lived in the Hamptons and not in New York City?  (she has since rented an apartment in NYC)   Personally, I would really like to see Jen and her “snarky” comments, just to see if she can pull it off.  She just hasn’t been enough of a presence in any scene.  Possibly the meeting with Jill was the test, what if producers told Jill to lay it on thick, talk her head off and see if Jen can hold her own.  If that is the case, Jen failed miserably! 

Has everyone seen Luann’s video?  OMG I couldn’t even watch the entire thing.  She doesn’t look like herself, in fact, she looks to me a little like Danielle from NJ.   The voice doesn’t match the person at all!  That manly voice speaking rather than singing fits well with the real Luann, but that woman on the video should be a sweet sounding smooth girlish voice, not that overly auto-tuned awful noise that she makes.  Talk about “white noise”! 

OMG Al Sharpton!  Where are my jelly beans damnit?  I am a like woman and I have a prerogative!  You are all like demented!  Cartwheels are free!  You need a time out!  Are you guys going to make out with the tongue?  You are not a chef, you’re cook!   You’re in a horror film and I’m in Disneyland.  Amazing!  Ramona, you made Bethenny cry!  I don’t care!  Zip it!!!

See you all next time!

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455 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Weekend Update May 29, 2010

  1. R M DeHaan says:

    The Hens in my hen house are rational. No note taking, grudge holding, cartwheels, jelly beans or Al Sharpton/Don King impressions. Nor do they sing crappy songs.

  2. Bobbi says:

    I think the relationship between Ramona and Jill is, on Ramona’s end, a replay of sorts of her abusive childhood. Jill is mean to her and Ramona (usually) begs to be forgiven. They get along again until Jill blows up over something and the cycle repeats. Ramona just wants to be loved. She’s done better this season and I do think she is in the process of really emotionally maturing since she went through her father’s death. It takes time for those changes to happen.

    • Bobbi says:

      Oh and I forgot! I think maybe Kelly was talking about hot chocolate as a beverage traditionally served after a cold weather activity. She never talked about skating, all she talked about was hot chocolate. I was struck by her sentence too but that’s the way I think she meant it. She makes the connection in her head, speaks and doesn’t take her listener through her thought process.

      • Just a Commoner says:

        I thought the same thing. Kelly was saying that Jill has never been interested in sports, only in the stuff that goes along with sports, like drinking hot chocolate while watching other people skate, or being seen drinking hot chocolate while other people skate, or being seen wearing a pink tutu with lots of sparkly things on it while other people skate.

        It was one of the few things that Kelly has said lately that actually made a little bit of sense.

        • anniieee says:

          Thatis exactly what I thought… sit on the sidelines and drink hot chocolate…

      • clevelandgirl says:

        I was kind of glad Kelly said that. It is kind of like “Bethenny can’t be a chef because she has never seen her cook, Jill can’t be a skater because she has never seen her do it, or talked about it.” It made perfect sense in “Kellyworld.”

    • Hooked On Housewives says:


      If Ramona continues to be friends with Alex, Bethenny and Sonja I think she will drop the zero(Jillousy) and hang with the heroes. Nothing is better than friends who you can depend on and who like you for no other reason than you are you. No strings. No histrionics. I wish that for Ramona.

      • Kat says:

        Amen. And there is room for disagreement without the threat of a lost friendship.

        • morning says:

          Amen. Amen.

          • ImToula says:

            Sorry I’m going to disagree ladies.
            I think Ramona loves the abuse she gets from Jill. And Jill loves to abuse everyone! It’s the sadomasochistic factor. Jill loves to abuse and Ramona loves to be abused. That’s why their relationship works . Sick?

          • Kat says:

            @Im Toula you are describing the dynamic in a narcissictic relationship. Spot on.

      • Margo Channing says:

        Nice thought babe, and the idea that 4 women can really be friends without hypocrisy and utter bullshit, and for that matter, any bitch that eats gummybears! I like that idea and I would love to see Ramona and Alex hanging with Bet on her new show!

    • Katiecoo says:

      I’ve thought the same thing. Ramona seems so sincere when she gives the “friends forever” deal to Jill (over and over) but to me it’s pure codependency and a person not wanting to go through loss and wanting to please everyone.

      • adamay411 says:

        I do not remember the details but there was some speculation after the Season I Reunion that Jill “had” something on Ramona and had probably shared it with Bethenny.

  3. Hooked On Housewives says:

    Lynn. I did notice what Kellamity said in the interview. She never heard Jillousy talk about skating. Skating party? Like WTF? I’ve ever only heard she-wolf harpy talk about hot chocolate. Please don’t tell me there is some kind of correlation between hot chocolate and……what. The sun coming up. At least with the Al Sharpton and satchels of gold remarks there were things that Kellamity could have been talking about. But hot chocolate. There is no way in hell that it refers to anything. At least not on this planet. Let me see. Maybe she was referring to cocoa…no wait, maybe coca-cola. No probably diet coke. After all Jillousy needs her diet cokes. She needs her shugah. Who knows?

    • morning says:

      I wish you and Bethenny could meet. It would be a hilarious conversation the rest of us would be lucky to follow.

  4. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Ramona’s and Jill’s relationship is extremely toxic. It continues, fueled by gossip and the need to know what each other is up to. Although Ramona has insulted Jill plenty of times, it seems that Jill is the one with the upper hand in this friendship. Maybe, like Bethenny, Ramona understood to have Jill as an enemy would have been detrimental to her socially if not financially. Not that she would have lost friends or money, but would have had unflattering stories circling everywhere. Jill as we now see is relentless and stops at nothing. Ramona just insults her, then tries to diffuse her and keeps it moving.
    Ramona’s daughter appears to be quite spoiled and rude. Shes’ embarassed by her mom? Her mom should be embarassed by her disdain about the vow renewal. She’s not acting adult, she’s acting rude and obnoxious. Any other bridesmaid would have been replaced!
    By the way, I noticed alot of outrage at Jill’s surprise visit, which of course included Bawwbby. However, little has been said about Bawwbby being there at all! Come on, I know Jill has emasculated Bawwbby but he is still male. It was a girlfriends weekend. Everyone knows how Ramona feels about men intruding on her ladies only events. This is another example of narcissist Jill imposing her will on others and even controlling Ramona’s own event! Had she not been on bad terms with Alex and B, she would have forced Ramona to accept Bawwbby the Eunich as an extra guest. She doesn’t have balls, she has ball the size of planets! I still hate Jill Zarin.

    • Quincy IL says:

      That’s correct. Ramona is the little birdie who shared Kelly’s comment to Bethenny. Those two are on the phone sharing and that is why Ramona went off the deep end on Luanne during the Hampton’s holiday at the beginning of the season. She probably has shared this with Jill in the past. Bethenny told us how Jill discusses the other women too. There’s “stuff” happening behind the scenes and Bravo either didnt’ catch it or didn’t show it to us.

      Ramona was awful with her employees, who throws clothes around an office. Her husband is afraid of her temper. We saw how he stepped back in the jewelry demo with the women in training.

      Ramona in her nighgown waiting for her husband was sad.

  5. desertgal66 says:

    I also caught, in that lunch with Kelly, Jill, LuAnn, and Jen:

    “I called Bethenny a ho-bag…which she IS.”

    She is? Let’s see…since the series began, we’ve seen Bethenny in relationships with two men, the second whom she married, and on a date with one other man in between. On a date, mind you, not rolling around under the sheets.

    That’s a “ho-bag”?

    When Kelly was talking to Sonja and Bethenny about the one night stands, Sonja also said that a one night stand can be a good thing and “we’re not suggesting that you sleep your way around America”, or words to that effect. Kelly immediately turned that into her allegation that Bethenny HAS slept her way around America and that Bethenny ADMITS to sleeping her way around America.

    Schizophrenic, I’m telling you. The woman hears things that weren’t said by the people who didn’t say them.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      @Desert Gal.

      This may have started out as a “get Bethenny” season. Which we all know was an epic fail. But Jillousy could have rounded up her posse (Kelly and LuMann) early on and given orders: do not pay attention to anyone else, get the beotch Bethenny at all costs. Of course, Kellamity not being of sound mind took hold of the orders and ran with them. Problem for head harpy is that she lost control of Kellamity and the shit has hit the fan.

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      She’s a whackadoodle that’s for sure! I’ve watched that scene more times than I care to admit and when Lunatic call B a ho-bag, B laughs hard. She takes it all in stride and laughs — I loved that and it probably drove Lunatic over the edge.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        I agree – Bethenny didn’t take her seriously and it enraged her. She thought Bethenny would be hurt and she just laughed it off. That and “cook not a chef” were all Kelly had in her arsenal.

  6. Kokuanani says:

    If I had my way we would be light three housewives next season, Jill, Kelly and Luann.

    Why don’t they “spin these three off” off to a new series they can call Real Hobags of NYC”?

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Real Birkin HoBags of NYC

      • katlg says:

        You always have a way of making me forget any problema I may have, because I am laughing too hard to worry about anything.
        Thank you for that, Hooked!!

    • clevelandgirl says:

      If RHONY deleted Jill, LuAnn, and Kelly the show would be an epic bore. Who would want to see 5 mature women getting along, and going about life. I have that in my own neighborhood. We NEED some drama! Just get rid of Kelly!!!

  7. Margo Channing says:

    Evening ladies. Lynn, thank you from all of me for creating this amazing place to come and just HATE JILL ZARIN. Regarding this Kelly mess. The only way for this to end is for Kelly to be harnassed and led back to the barn. She is a puppet of Jill and Luann and that became so incredibly obvious, not just the ship to shore phone calls, but upon her return, in the same ass-ripped jeans she wear constantly, I guess she thinks they are “trendy”…..Lord. When she arrived at the ‘tell us everything luncheon’, where she did not eat, (and WTF is wrong with her mouth anyway? Maybe she and Court should hook up!) the only person really listening to her delusional lies was Jen. She seemed to look right through Kelly and realize that something is very wrong with this mare, I mean girl. Three sides to the truth. Perfect way to, in a classy way (real class Lumann) dismiss the drama without creating more….Sorry, long day and I lost my train of thought! Have a great weekend all!

    • Ellabean says:

      Hey Margo C – great screen name. It was just on TMC this weekend again. “Fasten your seatbelts…..its going to be a bumpy night.”

    • Real Bullsh!t says:

      Yes, Jen saw right through Kelly at lunch and she was giving Jill the side eye and studying her reactions to Kelly’s lies. Unfortch we were introduced to Jen because she was hired by Jill to plan her party. Jen knows not to shit where you eat, so she kept her mouth shut most of the time. I do like that she kicked Jill out of her pantry, and she insulted Luann and Cort when they left together….”Luann’s date has bad hair and he’s gay!” LOL.

  8. lillybee says:

    I think that Kelly when speaking about Jill’s ice skating was using the same thought method that she uses to referring to Bethennny’s cooking. In her mind if she hasn’t heard of something, it really doesn’t exist. She is extremely ego-centric.

  9. desertgal66 says:

    Amber…Real Wife says:
    May 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Ramona’s daughter appears to be quite spoiled and rude. Shes’ embarassed by her mom? Her mom should be embarassed by her disdain about the vow renewal. She’s not acting adult, she’s acting rude and obnoxious. Any other bridesmaid would have been replaced!

    In fairness to Avery, she isn’t an adult. She’s a kid. A lot of kids her age are embarrassed by their parents. A lot of kids also wouldn’t want to get gussied up in a bridesmaid dress, knowing that it is going to eventually appear on nationwide television. Not to mention that her peers are going to see and poke fun at it as well, which I’m sure Avery isn’t looking forward to.

    Avery probably feels self conscious and awkward about the whole thing. If she’s being overly obnoxious, you should watch the kids on NYC Prep. They’re so obnoxious and snotty, Avery look mellow by comparison.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I’ve seen the preppy kids, and they are complete tools with and UES accent. However, Ashley is really showing her disgust for her mom on a worldwide t.v. show. Not just in front of the help or her girlfriends. It’s one thing to want to be cool and act embarassed about your folks, it is another to actually show her emotional detachment from her mother. She was critical of her mom on the HSN practice video, detached when asked to be the maid of honor, then gigging on her choice of wedding dress. She may be a kid, but she’s a kid who needs a major attitude readjustment. She’s embarassed about a vow renewal? Oh OK keep making snide comments and your parents won’t renew. Ramona should have controlled her “reactions” after her initial response. Maybe she withholds emotions from crazy Ramona as a way to control her. Bottomline, she is rude to her mother who would do anything for her and respects her even as she acts embarassed. Oh God! I got it! It’s MILDRED FIERCE!

      To prove a point…Ally and Victoria have crazy skanky mothers but the most we see out of them is an eye roll.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        All I can say is I remember what it was like to be a teenager and if my mom had been on a reality show, it would have been living hell. I read something recently that said that Avery’s school is not happy about Ramona’s participation in the show and that the other kids avoid her because their families don’t want to be drawn into it.

        • morning says:

          I have a teenager at home still and although she’s a wonderful person I know she’d be mortified if her mother was on a t.v. show like Ramona is. I think Avery is a typical teenager. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • natalie905 says:

            I actually like Avery…she seems “normal” in comparison to the other reality kids. And being bratty at that age is completely normal and expected.

          • Just a Commoner says:

            Let’s not forget that Avery behaved the same way towards her mother at the beginning of season 1 when she was just 11. Ramona talked a bunch then about how Avery was so much more conservative than she was and that Avery didn’t like her doing crazy stuff because it was embarrassing.

      • Kokuanani says:

        I’ve seen the preppy kids, and they are complete tools with and UES accent.

        To me the scene that “told it all” about Avery was when she & Ramona were having lunch at that “bistro” and Avery ordered something “off the menu” with “truffle oil.”

        Too, too pretentious..

        • SunshineNYC says:

          I totally agree with you two re: Avery. A friend and I both noticed this about her this season. In the past, it seemed like she was just a kid who was embarassed by her over zealous, wanna be hip and young, mini skirt wearing Mom. This season though, she just seems to have a major chip on her shoulder. The way she’s talked to Ramona, the constant eye rolls and sucking teeth, etc.. no respect whatsoever.

          As for her school, I’ve been told they send letters home to the parents every time Ramona coaster does something they don’t agree with. And not to talk to anyone about Avery or her family. Oh.. and it seems Avery’s attitude is in full effect at school as well. Sad.

      • Squirrels says:

        yep. Mildred Pierce is an excellent analogy.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Thanks Squirrel and the others, it was either Fierce or Pierce. Either Carol Burnett or Joan Crawford, either way it is Ramona and Avery.

      • error 404 says:

        what’s up with all the Avery hate? Of all the kids, she’s the Bethenny. Read any recap blog or article, they all LOVE LOVE LOVE her. So, call her a cook, not chef or teenage media ho-bag or whatever, but she’s very TV likable.

        • ElleNYC says:

          I cannot stand watching Avarice aka Avery on the show. Really, she is up there with the Wicked Witch and her Flying Monkey, Jill and LuAnn. And I have 2 daughters a little older than Avery – one that has a better attitude, one with a little worse. Avery does not remind me in the least of Bethanny. Really, I caught the bit in the restaurant about the off-menu selection with truffle oil. Personally, I thought that she could have been cast as Jill’s daughter.

          Also, when I watched Jen, I was struck how sensible she seemed and that she looked uncomfortable with being filmed because of how screwy some of these RHONYC were acting. I wouldn’t be surprised if SHE opted-out of the show.

      • clevelandgirl says:

        I think you mean “Avery” not “Ashley”…right?

  10. The Digger says:

    Ramona and Jill aren’t really good friends, they are casual friends. They have to run into each other in the Hamptons, at parties, shows, openings, fashion shows. I am sure in Ramona’s mind it is just easier to try to get along with Jill Zarin than to be at war with her and not speaking at all. This way Ramona doesn’t have to listed to gossip being said behind her back and have Jill shooting eye daggers at her from across the room at every event they both attend. Mario detests Jill Zarin and he seems to have no relationship with Bawbee at all. I doubt these people are going out for couples nite dinners. Ramona and Jill are just people making nicey nice on the surface. Ramona has a real set of friends that she goes out with and confides in. Jill is just background noise.

    • ridicurhony says:

      I think you pegged it with ‘casual friends’. I was thinking Ramona was being nice because she saw what a bitch she looked like in previous seasons, and decided it was better not to look that way anymore on nat’l tv.

      Maybe she’s learned something by pretending to be nice for tv- she does seem to pause now and notice that other people have feelings. I really don’t think she’s that involved with Jill or has any co-dependency going on. She blows off most of Jill’s comments or she responds to it by speaking up for herself immediately. I don’t get the impression that she really cares if Jill gets mad and it looks to me like Ramona treats her kind of like a child, saying now, now, you don’t mean that. And I agree, Avery seems just like any normal teenager to me.

  11. Ann marie says:

    I really don’t know who u are but after my third dirty martini and this blog I want to marry you!!!!

  12. Adios Lunatic says:

    I’ve often wondered about the Jill/Ramona relationship and why that continues. They appear to go back a long way which is probably related to events/friends in the Hampton’s that they have in common. I don’t think Ramona wants to rock the boat with friends by telling Jill they are done. They fight about very specific things and then usually Ramona apologizes — as someone else said, this is probably her pattern going back to childhood. Ramona may go off on people, but she isn’t a long-term bridge burner and seems to try to be there for her friends when they need her. Speaking of which, I don’t recall her weighing in on the whole Bawby illness deal — did I miss her confirming it was bad and she was around?

    Anyway, I have relationships that I’ve kept up with that weren’t nearly as bad as theirs appears to be and it was largely related to keeping the peace with other friends or relatives. Longstanding friendships/relationships are complicated — good times and bad times. I’m sure Jill and Ramona have had good times in their past they can look at today and laugh at and that reminds them that things were good at one time.

    Just my two cents. It took me all afternoon to get through everyone’s comments while I was baking a cake! I’m lucky it didn’t burn……

  13. susie says:

    Did anyone else notice during Kelly’s
    Telling of the events from ST Jojns
    She said Bethanny admitted to running
    To the press and talking about Kelly.

    Something about she was accusing
    Bethanny og talking to the press
    About her and Kelly said that
    Bethanny admitted she went to the
    Press. If this did actually take
    Place don’t you think Bravo would
    Have left that conversation in
    Since Bethanny always said she didn’t?
    Kelly does need some professioinal
    Help there is something really wrong
    With her. And who’s idea was it to
    Remove her from the island Bravo?
    Nobody on the cast has said anything
    About that.

  14. Amber...Real Wife says:

    To desertgal,

    I’ve seen the preppy kids, and they are complete tools with and UES accent. However, Ashley is really showing her disgust for her mom on a worldwide t.v. show. Not just in front of the help or her girlfriends. It’s one thing to want to be cool and act embarassed about your folks, it is another to actually show her emotional detachment from her mother. She was critical of her mom on the HSN practice video, detached when asked to be the maid of honor, then gigging on her choice of wedding dress. She may be a kid, but she’s a kid who needs a major attitude readjustment. She’s embarassed about a vow renewal? Oh OK keep making snide comments and your parents won’t renew. Ramona should have controlled her “reactions” after her initial response. Maybe she withholds emotions from crazy Ramona as a way to control her. Bottomline, she is rude to her mother who would do anything for her and respects her even as she acts embarassed. Oh God! I got it! It’s MILDRED FIERCE!

    To prove a point…Ally and Victoria have crazy skanky mothers but the most we see out of them is an eye roll

  15. couchon says:

    After last week’s RHNYC, it looks to me as if Ramona and Jill no longer care to be the least bit real in this reality show. They have merchandise to sell and Ramona won’t be her renewed self (Cameron Diaz) if she gives Jillzilla what she really deserves. Jill is probably working on her follow-up advice book on how to be the most hated housewife since 1979. If volumeII tanks too, she always has ice skating to FALL back on!

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      LOL. When she was skating, Head Harpy though she was changing the clock. Spring forward, Fall back. LMAO. Hope she didn’t damage her borrowed “chuckie”.(sp) It is such a pain (literally) to get a loaner chuckie and it is damaged.

      • Kat says:

        I was taking a drink when I casually scrolled to your comment.
        Now I need a napkin, thank you very much!
        Loaner chuckie? !! Lemon laws, I swear to gawd.

  16. Kat says:

    I think the housewives offer plenty of material to laugh at or to hate.
    I can’t even dislike a kid who didn’t ask for the media spotlight.
    Being a kid is hard enough.

    • error 404 says:

      ITA, snarking on kids kinda makes me queezy.

      None of the RHWONY kids bother me, and I’m still convinced that all of the Noel hating was done by people who have never actually met a 13 yo boy. lol

  17. LynnNChicago says:

    Kelly’s making more friends, now she’s bashing “broke people”

    Tweet by Kelly

    3thingsbrokepeopledo is they lie about everything, like “check is in the mail.’ its 2010, the mail delivery is very fast,lol.

    • Kat says:

      I hate her more now, I’m one of the broke people. But I’m not a liar.
      Kellamity… stuff that mouth and sit on your hands.

      • Kat says:

        I’ve disabled since 2003 and it is not gummiberries and lollipops. Screw her and her glib generalizations.

        • Morgaine Swann says:

          I’ve been disabled since 1992 and that entitled bitch can kiss my ass. I hate Kelly.

          • cusi77 says:


            I enjoy very much your insights. I do not know the nature of your disability, but you are centainly a very interesting person.
            I also have a disability. Depresion-panic… I carry on with medication. People do not realize how fortunate they are having autonomy.
            Thank you for your inputs!

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      Horrible woman! I saw that and it just made me shake my head…………dumber than a box of rocks.

    • The Digger says:

      Kelly would be broke if she wasn’t being bankrolled by Giles the world’s greatest most famous photographer. She needs to zip it. Now.

      I would love to know who’s name is on the deed for her NYC apartment and her Hamptons house. I am sure it is all in his name.

      • ElleNYC says:

        @TheDigger – I read in this blog that the house in the Hampton’s is in Giles name and Kelly can only use it when her children are with her.

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      Lynn, that was my response to her that I included you and idiot Andy on under @dalypam. I usually don’t respond to her insanity but that was just an awful thing to put out there.

      • Adios Lunatic says:

        And Lunatic actually responded —

        Me: Horrible thing to say. Not everyone has what you do. What is wrong with you?

        Lunatic: here we go, you guy are so easy. Get off the computer an go have some fun. Its sat nite. life is short. live it. (all typos are Lunatic’s from original…………..)

        That woman is certifiable!

        • Morgaine Swann says:

          This is what I sent to her:

          @kikilet LIsten you entitled airhead, you know nothing about being really broke. Shut up & go live your fabulous life. Some of us can’t.

          • Kat says:

            I read twitter but don’t have an account.
            Thank you Morgy and thank you Adios.
            I’m certain nothing registered in her brain, but it can’t hurt to try.

            Who knows she might regurgitate a tweet at some point and it will become her new stuck on stupid mantra. I can only hope.

          • Adios Lunatic says:

            She just really pushes my buttons when she says things like that to thousands of people who follow her. Who does that????? Her “normal” tweets are bad enough, but that was just going way too far. Put a Jill Stuart straightjacket on her and book her a room in the celebrity flaky farm or rehab or whatever.

          • Kat says:

            @Adios~ She can do her rehab at my house. I’ll fix her ass right up. (Shit evil grin.)

    • desertgal66 says:

      Kelly is making fun of people who are broke? That’s just disgusting.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:


      I’m broke but I know the difference between Al Sharpton and Bethenny. So f*ck her. I say we get a contest going as to how fast Jillousy dumps her ass if Bethenny takes Jillousy back. Jillousy will be the first person to sign Kellamity’s committment papers.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        Ain’t that the truth? I’ll bet Jill almost swallowed her tongue when she saw that episode and realized who she’d hitched her wagon to.

        • Real Bullsh!t says:

          I heard those two bitches – Jill and Kelly were recently on TV together talking about bullying and trying to get sympathy for Kelly because she was “bullied” on the island.

      • Adios Lunatic says:

        You probably also know the difference between Al Sharpton, Don King, and Jack Nicholson!

      • ImToula says:

        LOL…you gals are tooooo much! keep it coming! I love love love it!

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      Wouldn’t her “broke people” tweets make good press for Us Weekly, People, Page Six, etc.? Anyone know any of these folks to send to?

  18. Need a Hobby says:

    On Jill & Ramona: during/after season 1, Ramona said in an article that although she and Jill had known each other for years, they were “social friends” (people you see at events and occasionally socialize with) rather than close personal friends. They have an occasionally contentious relationship but I don’t think the dynamic between them goes very deep so they can blow off their battles with one another.

    Jill could huff and puff all she wants but she’s not going to be able to blow Ramona’s house down and she knows it. She saves that for people she thinks are vulnerable that she can do damage to like Alex and Bethenny. And Jill learned she was wrong about that.

  19. R M DeHaan says:

    Ramona Singer just tweeted


    Heading to the 1st Hamptons party of the season where I’ll be seeing 200 of my closest friends 🙂 lol.

    She must be following this site closely

  20. LynnNChicago says:

    And Kelly’s latest:

    @KellyKBensimon ok now, I am really flattered I have a fake twitter page. lol. #realhousewives #bravotv

    What Kelly doesnt realize is that this fake Kelly is making fun of her! OMG she is an idiot!
    Fake Kelly’s tweets:
    . @ I’ll be busy not sleeping with anyone tonight.
    @ramonasinger Zip it
    @BeverlyMerrill If only they’d learn how to make lemons out of lemonade.
    @ I knew Dennis Hopper and Gary Coleman. Great friends.
    @kikilet That’s why we only socialize with the rich. Right kiki?
    . @chris106243 Ugh one of Ramona’s eyeballs just fell in my soup.

    • couchon says:

      Who told Kellamity that her favorite tweets were by her fake flatterer?

    • ImToula says:


      OMG ….. she’s consumed too many dum dums!

    • Just a Commoner says:

      She knows that Fake Kelly is making fun of her, she’s just doing that thing where she comes back at haters with a compliment to disarm them. Except she didn’t say “disarm” because she doesn’t know any big words like that.

      She talked in the show about doing this. Except she also comes back at haters with name-calling too. I guess she just has a varied arsenal for dealing with mean people. Oops–another big word. My bad.

      I couldn’t NOT let this one from Fake Kelly go without a response:

      I need to keep in touch with the commoners. What will you be doing for memorial day?

      @KellyKBensimon OMG Hiiiieeeeeeee! To be honest with you? I’m going to watch old Al Sharpton movies. He. Is. So. Amaaaaazing.

      I LOVE Fake Kelly!

  21. Hater says:

    Random thought: Peplum is *not* Jill’s friend. She looked awful in that suit where she threw the fit over not being seated in the front row.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:


      JUST LEAVE. You are getting too close to the truth. (I don’t really want you to leave. Just responding to your post).

  22. BoringNeverEntertains says:

    Just to play devil’s advocate here; would the show be just as interesting/entertaining if there were no clear villains and heroes?

    Obviously, there is an audience for a freak-show and let’s face it, RHONY (and the whole Housewives franchise) is just that –a freak show.

    Don’t get me wrong. I am right there with all who tune into the previews, relish dissecting what the sneak-peaks Bravo feeds us could mean and digest all the dishing that goes on about RHONY everywhere. Heck, I even have my husband tuning in each week.

    However, all this drama, let’s face it, makes for good TV. It is all the bad behavior, the outrageous comments and insane self-absorbed spins that keep ALL of us coming back for more.

    It is escapism and to a certain extent a voyeurism that teaches us about our own behaviors perhaps. We see how ugly it can be when selfish people do selfish things. We witness what it’s like for a sad little mind to unravel. We see what makes a good friend and what makes a toxic relationship. We witness the unfairness in life; women who climb the social ladder by marriage and get book and music deals for being on a reality TV show regardless of any real talent.

    It serves as a mirrored commentary on today’s society that’s held up to our faces every week (reruns on weekends). A mirror does not hide the flaws, nor does it tell us what we want to hear (unless you’re the Wicked Witch in Snow White or the Wacko Bitch in RHONY) and it doesn’t sugar-coat reality –such as it is.

    So, no, my fellow RHONY fans, I don’t believe RHONY would be as entertaining nor keep us as riveted and glued to our sets and screens if it weren’t for the evil, crazy, self-absorbed, jealous bitches we love to hate. I say, Bravo knows a good thing when they read the ratings and will keep feeding us all the toxicity we secretly (and perhaps unknowingly) crave.

    Thus, I offer this. Which is more fun to watch, a crazy bitch or a boring wannabe (yes, this is my reference to Jen G –zzzzz) ?

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      While all you say may be true. I also watch in hopes that the she-devil, harpy, rich bitch harridans get their comeuppance(sp). Hasn’t been the case so far though.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      It’s only funny to watch people act like entitled bitches for a while – at some point, you want to see Karma kick their asses.

  23. lillybee says:

    I am not sure if I am right about this but I remember at the beginning of Season 1 when Jill said that she had seen Ramona around but she had only met Ramona two times before.

    • mia says:

      i think she said they were tennis buddies, and shared some friends but weren’t close.

  24. Olivia says:

    How I wish I too could on Twitter and tell you all that I have just returned from a friendly barbecue and one of my friends fell into the pool! But it would be so boring compared to Ramona’s event with “200 of her closest friends”. Give me a break!

    I want to weigh in here about Avery. Considering the fact that she is a 15 yr old, and much of the attitude goes with the territory, I think that the “close relationship” that Ramona talks about is all in Ramona’s fat head. If memory serves, Ramona interviewed that it is Mario who gets up in the morning and sees to Avery’s breakfast and then drives her to school.

    When Ramona was bragging to him about Avery’s chances to become a child actress and a possible model, it was Mario who had to point out certain aspects of their child’s interests in her school work and her after school activities. It carried the message that Mario was more in tune with his child then her mother.

    When Ramona dragged the kid to the audition, she practically stomped on her for how she was delivering her lines but the director was the one who questioned if her poor delivery had been wrongfully “coached” out of her by someone else. Hint: Ramona.

    She was all too eager to rid herself of Avery by calling a cab and sending her home so that she could hook up with Kelly and attend the paris hilton affair. She ordered Avery out of the room as she was practicing her “headshot” for QVC because Avery made her “nervous”. Avery cringes when her mother insists on wearing clothing that is much too young for her and I can understand her chagrin.

    I have a feeling that Ramona does not spend much quality time with Avery and what we are seeing is a forced attempt to appear otherwise. Avery resents her mother’s attention when it is done for the camera and it appears, at least to me, that Mario does the parenting here far more than Ramona.

    Ramona has just returned from a 3 week adventure in Africa only to fly off the same week for a few days in Florida to sell her jewelry. Doesn’t leave much time for Avery who may just be chafing on camera for being forced to pretend that they are “best friends”.

    In defense of Avery, I think she is far more interesting than her mother.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      That is a really great point Olivia (as always) When you put all of those events together you get an absentee mother and a father who is there for the day to day trials of a teenager.

      Last season when Ramona took all the girls for hair styling before their dance, Avery was again embarassed by her mom (yes, typical teen) but her face lit up and she ran to the door when Mario came home.

      You are right!

      • morning says:

        Well crap, now I feel really bad for Avery. You guys don’t miss a thing. How about sending Ramona a tweet? Sometimes mothers don’t realize. I had someone tell me how sad my son looked after his baby sister was born….about 10 years later! Would have been good to have it pointed out at the time!!

        • Had Enough! says:

          So I just want to say that Ramona has been looking fantastic all season long. The face, the hair, the body – all in amazing condition. And she has been chosing gorgeous, elegant clothing that is age-appropriate. I’ve been amazed at how great she’s looked in every episode.

          I think Avery is her daddy’s girl and I think that always makes moms a little sad and anxious, and I think that’s the dynamic here.

          • Mel says:

            I agree. As the mom of a 14 year old who is totally daddy’s girl, it is a little sad and frustrating. They tend to back talk and disrespect their mom because they don’t understand the pecking order of the family. That combined with Avery being an only child- she rules the house and sees mom as inferior. She will grow out of this- in time.

  25. Morgaine Swann says:

    I thought it was a Perez Hilton event, not Paris Hilton. Huge difference.

  26. Olivia says:

    I meant perez hilton. Sorry, I keep getting my airheads mixed up.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      See, I could have overlooked sending Avery home in a cab for a Paris Hilton event, but for Perez Hilton? No way – take your kid home!

  27. ImToula says:

    Why do these women allow their children to take part in the show?
    Do they really think that they are going to become stars?
    Do they need the money that bad?

    They put their kids in the public eye, and then when they get negative comments, they don’t like it.

    Alex and Simon are famous for that. Remember when they took their son to be evaluated because they thought he was gifted? Remember the music that was playing in the background? What were you thinking about this kid while that was going on?
    Then they write a book about raising kids. Again, the kids front and center.

    Teresa from the NJH, same thing, they sing, they dance, they model, they wear funky hair bands and say things that they shouldn’t.
    I must not forget to mention Danielle and her daughters. Do I want to say anything about Ashley? As far as Avery goes,of course she’s mortified with her mother’s antics on national TV…and I can’t even begin to think about what Danielle’s daughters are going through! How will Kelly’s kids handle their mothers melt down? Have these women thought about how their kids will return to school? All teenagers are embarrassed by their parents

    I think it’s wrong to offer your children up like that without thinking it through. I don’t think any of these women has thought about the best interest of their kids. They thought about their best interests,and their wallets, and that is the one thing they all have in common. I think it’s criminal.

  28. cusi77 says:

    Bravo Lynn! Great blog!

    In season 1 Jill introduced Luann to Ramona. In that Party Ramona had in The Hamptons, Luann was invited, Jill wasn’t. Luann arrives just for a cocktail -she had another commitment- and when she asked for Jill… Ramona said she beleived Jill was in The City. The following time Jill and Luann are having lunch and Ramona’s party comes to the conversation and Jill is furious because she wasn’t invited and she wasn’t in the City and calls Ramona a Lier. Jill is having a double match tennis with Ramona and Jill asks Luann if she plays TENNIS! It is obvious they do not know each other for a long time! Since Luann has a tennis court at home.
    They discussed Ramona being a lier at the Reunion in season 1… remember?

    Excuse my grammar faults. English is not my mother language. (I am learning English thanks to you!)

  29. Need a Hobby says:

    April interview with Avery Singer: http://crushable.com/entertainment/ramona-singers-daughter-avery-opens-up-about-having-a-real-housewife-as-a-mom/

    She comes across as a sensible kid who has a good relationship with both her parents.

  30. Morgaine Swann says:


    There’s a multiple choice question all about our favorite harpy, Jill.

  31. LynnNChicago says:

    One quick comment about NJ, Teresa’s book apparently not only bashes Danielle (no surprise there) she also takes a nice dig at Gretchen from the OC…

    She referenced high lvls of bad carbs leavng ur system like “a gold digger leaves her dying fiance to party at the river”

    You couldn’t give me Teresa’s book for free, and I don’t know anyone who has it, just tonight someone tweeted me with the above information. Teresa is making lots of Housewife friends.

    Gretchen just learned this info moments ago as well and tweeted that she doesn’t understand why Teresa is coming after her, since they only met once for 5 minutes.

    • Kat says:

      Slade wrote a blog and addressed the party at the river. Gretchens family has a house there and that is where her family was, so of course that is where she went. Teresa knows zilch about Jeff and Gretchen… what a dumbass.

      • morning says:

        Because Teresa is an idiot.

        • mia says:

          Thats true, she is an idiot. But to her defense why would Gretchen do a reality show if she has such thin skin? It was a joke, a dumb one at that. I don’t understand why Slade even feels the need to respond. Wah Wahhh Wahh.

          • morning says:

            Guess I’m also remembering she went after Sonja immediately and why?

          • mia says:

            @ morning, but Sonja wasn’t annoying enough to cry about it in public. At least she has some class, and is smart enough to not fuel the fire. Seriously why give Teresa the satisfaction and press to even respond. These women get paid $100,000 a season to be on a cable television show. They can’t expect people not to scrutinize them. Plus Slade is gross.

        • morning says:

          Never said Gretchen and Slade, to be sure, weren’t idiots as well. 🙂

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I think Teresa is trying to get her snarky on with all the housewives. She is trying to do a Bethenny, however, it is coming off as stupid and vicious for vicious sake. Has any housewife spoken ill of her hairline, her husband’s necksize or her apparent lack of intelligence?

      • Mbdea says:

        LOL…hairline comment. Still, there is something about her that I find endearing. Maybe I’ll change my mind as the show progresses but for now, I actually enjoy her.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      I bought Teresa’s book and I really liked it. I was pleasantly surprised that her ghost writer managed to make it sound like her, but it was still pleasant to read and had great recipes. It has nice little sections on canning tomatoes, making sauce, choosing olive oil, pasta, and there are little comments from Joe and lots of pictures of the kids.

      She does take swipes at some of the others, including my favorite Bethenny, but they’re not too harsh. I know nothing about the OC lady, so I can’t judge that. She does give some background on why she’s so negative about Danielle that made her vehement dislike seem more reasonable than it does with what we know from the show.

      Teresa’s just a Jersey Girl, which is not the same as being a woman who happens to live in New Jersey. I don’t expect anything from her but what we see. I like the kids. I like the Manzo family. I like Danielle’s kids. I don’t know if it’s a good idea for them to be on the show or not, but I think it’s better to have them on the show if the parent is, otherwise they’ll feel they’re missing out and resent it later on. What might be bad for one kid might be exactly right for another. I guarantee Teresa’s kids are not going to be ashamed of her, though, the way Ramona’s daughter is. That may have more to do with their ages than personality, but I think personality is part of it.

      Gia needs to learn a little humility, but I love the dark skin and the bright blue eyes and even the attitude for now.

      I don’t think Teresa and Joe are great parents, but they’re better than some. I like that they eat dinner together every day and the girls get a lot of attention. I’d like to see more reading and books in the house, but that wouldn’t happen even if they weren’t on TV.

      • Kat says:

        Does Teresa write: “She referenced high lvls of bad carbs leavng ur system like “a gold digger leaves her dying fiance to party at the river” ?
        That was tweeted to Lynn. It is supposedly in the book.
        Just wondered if you recall that quote?

    • SunshineNYC says:

      I think Teresa is dumb as rocks and tries way too hard to be relevant among the housewives.. hence the digs at everyone. She didn’t know there were diamonds in Africa?!? Come on! I wouldn’t be suprised if someone else writes her blog for her b/c there’s no way that chick can put together some of those witty sentences. Between her getting at Bethenny early on this season and being on Team Jill, to suddenly switching sides so not to alienate the fans – when she realized the majority of viewers were supporting Bethenny.. to calling Sonja an old whore. WTF? It’s unnecessary and as hard she may try to be Bethenny, she never could.

  32. Olivia says:

    I am just taking the position that if Jill Zarin had not turned out to be the “Spawn of Satan”, Ramona was right behind her as first runner up from what I observed.

    And the first thing out of newbie Sonja’s mouth regarding Ramona’s helping herself to the dress that Sonja was about to buy pretty much summed her up right from the beginning.

    Ramona is all about Ramona which is why she fluctuates between the two opposing camps without actually setting down roots. No matter how disgusting Jill’s behavior may be, or how much damage she has inflicted upon the others, Ramona remains steadfast in her “friendship” with her which is difficult to fathom.

    My guess is that Ramona is desperate to remain on that show and she will do anything to maintain that position.

  33. Quincy IL says:

    “Broke people?” Is that a phrase used in the East? I am from the area where Kelly grew up and I recognize this term. Could it be a typo? “Broken people” is used here.
    It has something to do with people with emotional scars from their past.

    Kelly may mean “broken people.” We all know that she confuses her idioms.

    “Broke people?” “Broke horses?” I have heard of the latter. A well trained horse is broken (in.)

    She speaks American/English like she kinda like just fell off the boat.

    • lillybee says:

      But the boat from where? Kellyland? The island of broke people?

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      @Quincy IL

      In this sense we believe that the scatterbrained bitch is talking about poor people. Broke people. People who don’t have a lot of funds. I say this because the next part of her tweet/twitter/twat was ” the check is in the mail.” This upsets me becaue not everyone has what they should have through no fault of their own. I say that I’m upset but I am angry. If this bitch wants someone to show her how an ass can hit the gound or how grown people can lose teeth send to me. 02151. I’ll meet her at Logan.

      • boston02127 says:


      • Hooked On Housewives says:

        Can someone tweet this cant (deliberately misspelled) and tell her she needs to careful of the lines she crosses because one day Gilles won’t be there to pay for her crack and she may end up broke. And, as far as Saturday night goes, she wouldn’t know who was tweeting if she wasn’t on twitter. Loser.
        Note to self: Ok Sharon maybe it’s time to step away from the computer.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          Tons of people ripped into Kelly after that tweet, they let her have it!

          She immediately afterward started talking about Dennis Hopper and her charity work…she is so transparent

        • Adios Lunatic says:

          @Hooked — no, don’t step away from the computer — we’re loving it!!!!

    • The Digger says:

      No, it was #brokepeople, it was a trending topic on twitter and that was her little brilliant reply to the topic.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      No, it was a trending topic on Twitter : #thingsbrokepeopledo or something like that. She was trying to play along and didn’t have the good sense to know that such a comment from a socialite is not acceptable.

  34. Olivia says:

    Applause to whomever is receiving and interpreting Kelly’s nonstop idiocy. I have yet to see one offering from her that makes any sense whatsoever. Aren’t her parents in town visiting? Where are her kids? She has spent the better part of each day since last Friday twittering to her heart’s content.

    I only hope she is taking nourishment between “twits” because she seems to be going at it nonstop.

    • The Digger says:

      You can see that having her parents in town has really done nothing to improve her mental capacity. They must be there visiting the grand kiddies and not there to help Kelly and her mental breakdown – – thru – – breakthru… sorry. I always get that wrong.

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      I was wondering about the parents, too. She hasn’t mentioned them since that first day (yesterday?). They probably couldn’t stand to be with her, took the girls and left to hang with Gilles.

      She’s going nonstop tweeting and she tells ME to go out and live my life! Kelly, put down the IPhone or Blackberry for 1 day and I’ll donate $ to your favorite charity. Just stawwwwwwppppppp…………………….I won’t indulge you in this……………..

    • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

      Well, this little exchange isn’t quite as explosive as the inexplicable “broke” comments, but here is one more example of the disconnect between Kelly and reality. The question is, is this delusion or manipulation? Check it out:

      Kennya to Kelly:

      #RHONY was great again. @kikilet is clearly a delusional liar with abnormal shoulders. I really hope @BETHENNY and @JILLZARIN make amends. 5:18 AM May 28th via web

      Kennya B.

      Kelly’s reply:

      @KennyaBe well said. we all hope @jillzarin @bethenny reconcile their diffferences and become friends. 5:21 AM May 28th via web in reply to KennyaBe

      • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

        Not to reply to myself, but does Kelly not realize that people can see the tweets to which she so crazily replies?


        Nadia to Kelly:

        Is @kikilet serious?? By golly, she’s gotta be finetuning her acting skills. I refuse to accept this as reality… about 1 hour ago via TwitBird iPhone


        Kelly’s reply:

        @NadiaMck lol 35 minutes ago via web in reply to NadiaMck

      • Adios Lunatic says:

        Is there some signals crossed mental disorder? Everything everyone says she takes the opposite. I think B is right, her wires are crossed and she’s short circuiting. It doesn’t matter who she’s talking to — friend, foe, kids, etc. she completely misunderstands.

  35. Adios Lunatic says:

    @Kat — ooh, Kelly rehabbing in your home………………I love the evilness! However, I fear the brick wall of her brain might drive you over the edge. Seems like Sonja was getting ready to lose hers just having to deal with her!

  36. Olivia says:

    Perhaps Danielle/Beverly/Angela, or whoever she is this year, can hook up with Kelly and introduce her to some real men for a change. Like Danny for instance.

    Kelly’s idea of an ideal date is that she expects to go to fun places and this may be right up his alley and I see a first date for them reporting to his parole board for starters. Then off to a quiet dinner at the Brownstone followed by a fun filled “drive by” of the Manzo mansion while she explores his tatoos and creates an on the spot poem in commemoration. Twittered of course.

    Eventually that poem could be put to music and Lu Ann will be asked to include this cut on her new album and be played on Andy Cohen’s show with Simon Cowell as the guest. Hopefully this is accomplished before Andy passes out as Simon’s head explodes.

    I predict lots of lollipops and rainbows from here!

  37. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Kelly is a whack job who was referring to poor people. Although a trend on twiiter or whatever, she should have the common sense to know that as a wealthy person she should never make those kind of jokes. Likewise, as a celebrity she shouldn’t do the you’re so fat jokes, your momma jokes, ugly women do, etc.

  38. Katiecoo says:

    Ok just woke up from my nap and now I”m using this newest blog as incentive to get some chores done and reading it is my reward. How obsessed is that? :p

  39. Hooked On Housewives says:

    I’m wondering why head harpy is so quiet. Isn’t she in the Hamptons? There must be something she can bitch about.

    I was driving through the garment district and I think I saw Bawby trying to pick up a hooker. I honked at him. (just kidding) Bawby is probably somewhere looking for his balls.

    I have to say this. My sister is here from Florida and she indulges me. She allows the beast in me to come out. I have to enjoy it while I can. BTW. She hates Jill Zarin too and I think she is headed the same way with Kelly the douche.

    • Kat says:

      When Bobby finds those balls wanna play some mini golf?

      I have a younger sister and love her very much. Enjoy your visit.

  40. LynnNChicago says:

    We’re up close to 1400 signatures… may be useless but I still love watching those numbers rise!


    More of Kelly’s nonsense…
    @waiting for my dress. hurry or i am going to want popcorn
    @No3Bethennyfan whatever makes u sleep better at night
    @see you at AXE lounge

    Kelly’s response to Bethennyfan was in regards to her tweet to Kelly calling her a liar for saying she doesn’t drink, then talks about her stupid drink she “invented”

    She’s been talking about going to the nightclub Axe for a while, she must be either hosting a party there or she is just going there for the hell of it. She’s inviting people to join her and telling everyone where she will be so obviously she wants people to come there. Most likely if any of her “fans” try to show up there they will be turned away because they’re not on the guest list, or they will get in but not get near her because she’ll be in some roped off area…

    The dress comment? Hell if I know??

  41. desertgal66 says:

    I noticed that Kelly tweeted-twice-that Dennis Hopper “helped me” raise a lot of of money for Hale House.

    Judging from his divorce tribulations shortly before his death, though, I think it’s a safe bet that Dennis Hopper didn’t have a whole lot of patience for money grubbing psychotic halfwits.

    I’m fairly certain that his only response to any questions about his charitable efforts with Kelly would have been “Who the f**k is Kelly Bensimon and why should I care?”

    An immensely talented actor, director, and writer has just died, and the only thing that Kelly finds relevant is how he was connected to HER. She’s just pathetic.

    Oh, and Kelly? Hopper was a “philanthropist”, not a “philanthropic man”.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Here’s the truth (you can’t handle the truth! oh my god al sharpton al sharpton)
      from Ms. Stoooooooooooopid herself:

      That following summer, I created another charity for Hale House where I asked Screen Actors Guild for all the names of actors and actresses, and I faxed their publicists to donate a pair of signed jeans from their talent to be hung and sold as objects of art.

      So she sent a fax to his publicist and the publicist had him send a pair of jeans.
      Yup, that makes them besties in KellyLand.

  42. A former Jill fan says:

    We just don’t know if Kelly is engaging in deception or if she’s really delusional, but I know one thing, if she keeps it up, it will eventually catch up with her.

    One too many strange tweets and she could very well risk losing her apple, losing any other job she may have, losing any friends whose concern may turn into fear of her and her erattic behavior, or even the worse case scenario, losing any rights she has to her daughters.

    If she is pretending to be doing these strange things in order to get media/viewer attention, it may very well come back and bite her in the butt.

    She should be trying her best to act as normal as possible, but she’s going in the exact opposite direction. I just can’t see someone risking losing her children because she wants attention from the media and viewers without being mentally disturbed. At least, I hope someone wouldn’t risk losing all that just for more attention!

    It’s a shame, because she’s hurting her children now with her strange behavior.

    • Kat says:

      Kelly is sick – so sick everyone seems to know but her.
      I hope she gets help.
      I can not imagine growing up in that enviroment.
      You just know that her girls know … or I hope they do. I hope they don’t think their mom’s behavior is normal.

  43. Ches says:

    New here, love the site and had to weigh in. The way her brain works when Kelly tweets “brokepeople”, she means people from Brokelyn…like Alex.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      lol If only Kelly was trying to be funny but she has no sense of humor…and no sense!

      • Olivia says:

        And that is the trouble with most of them. With the exception of Bethenny, who usually leaves me in stitches, the rest of them lack any sense of humor or self awareness which makes it so easy to belittle them.

        Most of them do not see what the rest of us witness which makes their behavior all the more insane.

        They basically invite us to laugh at them, not with them, which says more about them than us.

        • Kat says:

          I had Kelly’s cents of humor tried to hock it to pay my bills but they only offered me change back.

  44. desertgal66 says:

    Olivia says:
    May 29, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Kelly’s idea of an ideal date is that she expects to go to fun places and this may be right up his alley and I see a first date for them reporting to his parole board for starters.

    Actually, I think Kelly would say that her idea of an ideal date is April 24.

  45. jackterrier says:

    This has been bugging me since it aired and no one has addressed this on any board that I read…When Betheny and LuAnne were having their spat in the Hamptons Bethenny said to LuAnne, “We’re not friends for a very specific reason”.

    Does anyone know what she was referring too? It is starting to keep me up at night! LOL (just kidding! )

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Could be that LuMan was so phoney, cautioning others on etiquette, all the while trolling the UES for men. She chastized Bethenny for introducing her as her friend Luann instead of the CountlessdeSeville to the hired help.

      • jackterrier says:

        Meaning that Bethenny was sick of LuAnne being “up there”?

        Could be, but it sounded more ominous to me as in LuAnne did or said something that really ticked off Bethenny.

        • HD says:

          I need to watch it again when they do the never ending reruns because I did not understand why Luann and Bethanny had that meeting in the first place-when they met at that bar I believe in the Hamptons at the beginning of the season. Why did they have issues and need the meeting?

          • Morgaine Swann says:

            There was no issue that Bethenny knew of – she invited her for drinks so they could touch base because she had been on her book tour. She didn’t know Jill had declared her persona non grata while she was busy.

          • jackterrier says:

            @HD, yes, I guess that really is my question!? What was their beef anyway?
            The only thing I remember LuAnne bringing up was the surfing lesson payment snark behind her back that pissed her off.
            But then Bethenny said the ‘cryptic’ “we’re not friends for a very specific reason” – and I’m lost!

    • cusi77 says:

      @ jack – It comes to my mind that Bethenny is VERY intelligent and knows the countless is hypocrite… who wants that kind of friends? Remeber when Bethenny told her at The American Cancer S. She had been told her photo is going to appear in front page in some kind of Magazine and Luann reaction was… “It is going to be a retouch?” Never congratualate… nothing. Bethenny invited her to talk and Luann never apologize for the comment!

      • jackterrier says:

        Thanks for refreshing my memory on that too!

        • jackterrier says:

          Didn’t she just brush of B with a “Oh, my love, I didn’t mean it like that”? In that sickly sweet sarcastic voice.

          • Just a Commoner says:

            Yes, she did brush Bethenny’s complaint off. I think she tried to say that she did congratulate Bethenny first and that that she asked about the airbrushing after, which of course made it perfectly polite (NOT!). Bethenny didn’t let her off the hook, though.

            I love seeing Luann squirm when she’s on the spot like that. Such a phony.

  46. Olivia says:

    I have no knowledge of Gilles BensSimon other than that he is the most famous photographer who has ever graced the earth, but imagine having to come home to that every night after a hard day’s work of ogling young models and listening to that gibberish coming at you from across the dining room table?

    Kelly is slowly advancing into Edie Beale territory here.

    • desertgal66 says:

      Edie Beale…LOL!

    • GreatExpectations says:

      His wiki says he’s been link with Estella Alt. I think she is at least 10 years younger than Kelly. He’s what? Oh, 66 years old!

      I remember reading once that in certain European circles the ideal age for the wife of a wealthy man was half his age plus 11 years. I think that for a man in the fashion world it’s even more skewed.

  47. A former Jill fan says:

    Adios, Squirrels and Kat, I’ll pass on THAT chili! UGH! LOL!

  48. cusi77 says:

    Can somebody explain HO-BAG? My hubby is Jewish American from NY and he does not know what does that mean… I just have a guess… there is nothing in my HARPER COLLINS DICTIONARY & thesaurus… Thank you!

  49. LynnNChicago says:

    This is amazing, we had 10,390 hits on these blogs yesterday alone….this is as much to the credit of all of you as anything else. (this is for unique users and does not include my visits) WOW!

    People may come here to read the blog, but the comments are what makes it GREAT!!

    Thanks so much to everyone!!

  50. ShelleyT says:

    I was looking for the buffet with the lamb chops and cupcakes.
    Did anybody see it??

  51. cusi77 says:

    @ Olivia – According to Danielle, Gilles IS GOD!

  52. judgek says:

    Could “Ho-Bag” refer to a whore with a bag of tricks?

  53. ImToula says:

    I hope this helps

    Ho-bag :

    1. an irritating, nettlesome, pesky bastard.

    2. a dirty, untidy, woman adulteress.

    3. a prostitute or a woman of the street — (a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money)

    4. a biatch (derivative of bitch, used to exemplify person A’s disbelief, anger, or frustration with person B.)

    • Kat says:

      I just recently learned what teabagging meant.
      I thought it involved a cup of hot water and steeping some tea…

    • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

      Back in high school, my friend’s mom would say “hose bag”. That made me wonder if the term had something to do with those mesh bags used to was lingerie. My friend’s mom was a bit of a nut, though, so I knew that it was equally likely that she was just saying it incorrectly. Apart from that, I have always assumed that “ho” was short for “whore”. Anyone else ever heard the “hose” version?

      • Hooked On Housewives says:

        I looked it up. The term hosebag is listed in the urban dictionary and means just about the same thing as ho-bag or hobag.

        • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

          Excellent research, Hooked. I guess my friend’s mom was just a little less nutty than I thought. Thanks!

      • judgek says:

        Someone on Facebook just referred to Jill as an “asshat.” Anyone know what that means?

      • ridicurhony says:

        hosebag was popular in the 70’s where I lived

        • Kat says:

          I remember it too.
          Hoser was popularized later by some Canadians.

          • kizarny says:

            Canadian chiming in here, hoser is completely different. A hoser is someone who is proudly a stereotypical Canadian. Plaid flannel shirt wearing, beer drinking, “eh” saying, hockey loving. That sort of thing. Throw a toque on him and call him a hoser, he’ll live it.

          • Kat says:

            @kizarny~ I kind of remember these Canadian guys on cable tv. What did they say, “Go North hoser” ? I think it was SCTV. Funny weekend late night show. 🙂

            The “hoser” I referred to first in my post was a slang word used as both a noun and an adjective. The term could be a derogatory statement or a term of endearment depending on the speaker’s intention. Late 70’s to mid 80’s.

  54. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Congratulations Lynn,

    Thanks to your site, I was able to continue watching RHONY without getting an ulcer or suffering from an anyeurism(?) Much continued success and please keep blogging on the Housewives series.

  55. Olivia says:

    My favorite “housewife” was Rosie the maid. Astute, loaded with commonsense, wise, and aware of the children’s needs. Of course she came across is normal so she had to go. Rosie not only kept house for Countless Lu Ann, she basically raised her kids as well.

    Rosie was wise enough to know that those kids needed their parents not a camera shoved in their faces which made me love her all the more. For Rosie, honesty was never the best policy in dealing with Lu Lu.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      One thing is certain, when Rosie came to visit I saw both Noel and Victoria hug her. I think (not 100% sure) that I have yet to see either child hug LuMann.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      I hated that the kids were so condescending to Rosie, though. She was more a mom to them than LuAnn ever was.

      • GreatExpectations says:

        Rosie was sweet, but coming from the Philipines I think there was a big cultural divide. I grew up with a lot of Filipinos and I saw the same thing between my friends and their parents. The eye rolling and talking down to their immigrant parents. And these were upper class Filipino families. Their parents were educated and came from rich families and when they went back home they hired girls from families like Rosie’s to carry their books for them. I kid you not.

  56. Morgaine Swann says:

    I said this up the thread there, but I want to make sure people see it.

    Kelly was responding to #thingsbrokepeopledo The three should have been a hash mark, it’ a hashtag that is a trending topic on Twitter. She just wasn’t smart enough to know that it was in bad taste for her to reply.

    Yes, her brain switches things around – the information her brain takes in is corrupt. That’s what paranoid schizophrenia is, and if she has it, she will never go for help on her own. It will take an intervention by someone else, and it doesn’t look like anyone around her has been successful in getting her help if they’ve even tried.

    I have no doubt Dennis Hopper and Kelly crossed paths at a fundraiser and he probably thought she was a great person because she smiled big, was dressed well, and walked away after she said “hiiiieeeee.”

  57. A former Jill fan says:

    To anyone who may be offended by Kelly’s remark about broke people, don’t be! Just look at the source. Never let anyone who isn’t someone you look up to and respect bother you. After all, where would Kelly be right now if she didn’t marry a rich man?

    Kelly is her own worst enemy right now, so let her rant and rave and don’t take anything she says personally. If she keeps this up, she’ll sink her own boat!

    Don’t take it personal if you find anything Kelly does or says so offensive, but rather write Andy Cohen and let him know what kind of person they have representing their company.

    To me, it’s the height of pretentiousness to put down someone who may be struggling to make ends meet!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      So True!! I do believe I recall Vicki saying something about people who dont have money…when she took Donn for their vow renewal she said, “Whoever says money can’t buy happiness, doesn’t have money” or something like that.

      When Andy Cohen asked her about it, I think he was expecting an apology or some humility, instead she said, “I like having money”

      Not as stupid as Kelly, but Vicki still says hurtful, mean and idiotic things. “smelly dork”?

      • Kat says:

        Knee jerk reaction here. Kelly doesn’t have the power to ruin my evening. It felt good to spout off though I must confess.

      • Mel says:

        Vicki is right up there with Jill- is she going to be the topic of discussion when the next OC season runs?? She is so out of touch with the “real” world. She had the same problem that Jill has- she ditched her cool friend (Jeanna) and then wondered why she doesn’t have any likability or why it wasn’t “fun” anymore.

    • boston02127 says:

      I agree, sit back and let her bury herself.

  58. Olivia says:

    This is what I remember about the feud between Bethenny and Countess Useless:

    Bethenny invited her to go on a skiing vacation and apparently Bethenny got stuck with the whole bill. Lu Lu countered that when one extends an invitation the expectation is that the person extending the invite is paying for the whole thing. Bethenny was taken aback at this and countered that this was the first time she had ever heard that one. Naturally Lu Lu, being the arbiter of taste, class and manners, again instructed Bethenny on the proper form of an invite. Bethenny basically told her she was nuts.

    It then came out that Lu Lu was criticizing Bethenny all over town by saying that Bethenny was giving out her phone number to men she had just met. Bethenny countered that it was her business card she was handing out but that Lu Lu had no reason to pick on her for this since Bethenny had been in Lu Lu’s company and saw her doing the same thing. Lu Lu, of course, denied this.

    Much of this happened between filming and was not seen on camera but it was around the same time that Jill brought out the vendetta and she and Lu Lu became “friends”. The “you are a snake” comment came from Bethenny learning that Lu Lu
    was feeding Jill information and coming between them at the beginning of the series.

    Lu Lu has never forgiven Bethenny for that and demanded an apology. And so it goes.

    • HD says:

      Thanks, Olivia. I just did not get why they did not get along. Luann is so stupid to believe just because you invite someone somewhere that means you are picking up the tab. That might work on a date but when friends do things that is not how things work. I am seeing more and more Luann is very cheap.

    • Real Bullsh!t says:

      Does anyone remember last season when Kelly left Bethenny waiting in the bar for 30 minutes before she made her grand speech? And Kelly told LuLu that on their way to a Page 6 party. LuLu told her that was wrong. Well, not only did LuLu make B wait for her, she bailed on her after B drove out to the Hamptons to meet her. Then the next day wanted B to pick up the tab. Whatta hypocritical snot.

      • GreatExpectations says:

        Oh, gawd, when you recount it this way these women are crazy! It’s funny it’s the one’s talking down to everyone else who are by far the worst.

    • Smompy says:

      Didn’t know about the skiing trip. I adn’t heard that. What I remember is that last season Bethenny invited all the girls for a surfing lesson while they were all in the Hamptons. I think it was one of those thing Bravo probably suggested in order to get them all together, but that’s just a guess on my part. Ramona, Lulum Jill and Bethenny were there for this lesson from some Lawn Guyland surfer dude, although Jill was too overdressed & tarted up to do anything but sit on the sand and watch the others try to surf. A good time was had by all, the lesson was over and suddenly Lulu was all, “OK bye!” Then she drove off. Bethenny gave the instructor a check and then when she and Ramona were packing up the car, Bethenny kvetched about how she always ends up stuck with the bill even though she has the least money out of all of them. It wasn’t a huge deal – both she and Ramona were clearly laughing about it and nobody ever cme out and said, LUANN SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR THS. It was just a funny implication made by Bethenny being that Luuu did get the lesson and then disappeared, leaving B with the whole bill. But again, not a big deal according to what Bravo showed us.

      After that show aired and Lulu heard what Bethenny had said to Ramona at the end of that scene, she was PISSED! She felt that any implication about her being a deadbeat was the worst possible insult in the world. Now I’m a little blurry on this, but I could have sworn that Lulu had already brought this up during last season’s reunion show and (if so) Bethenny probably thought it was over and done with. In any case, Lulu was obviously still steamed about it a year later, because she immediatey threw it in Bethenny’s face at their diner meeting on the first episode. I got the impression that Bethenny assumed the issue was settled already, and I figured that’s why she looked so stunned & irritated that LuAnn was brining it up again. But my take on it was influenced by the way I remember the last reunion show, and my memory ain’t what it used to be.

      I also believe by the time of that diner meeting, Bethenny had started to hear about LuLu badmouthing her (over the business card thing) and implying B was a slut. Being called a tramp by Lulu must have been especially galling since (by all accounts I’ve seen or heard) LuAnn herself slept aroundn a lot, all throughout her marriage, as did her husband. Apparently the other housewives had all agreed to be nice and not talk about this stuff publicly. (reference Ramona’s Labor Day phone call to Jill, a.k.a. Speakergate 1 and her reference to Lu & her ex’s sluttiness) I thought this was the reason for Behtnenny’s “people who live in glass houses” comment regarding LuAnn…IOW LuAnn IS a slut so she has no business calling anyone else slutty.

      Plus, by the time filming started Bethenny was evidently starting to hear some of the things Jill had been doing/saying since their fight and had heard about Lulu inserting herself into the situation in a big way as well. I think that’s why Bethenny initiated that meeting – which ended up being at the diner near LuAnn’s house due to Lu’s refusing to meet B. halfway. Bethenny had planned to confront Lulu about this stuff she was hearing, only Lulu beat her to it by bringing up that stupid surfing lesson again which put B. on the defensive. It was actually kind of clever of the countess to do that, although being clever about things like that doesn’t make her any less of a hypocritical bitch.

      Anyhow, that’s the way I rememeber it. I may have missed (or added) a couple small details:)

  59. Hooked On Housewives says:

    Ladies it has been a blast. I say goodnight. My sister Wanda says goodnight and to keep up the good work. If you read about some fired up black woman rampaging through Club Axe in NY. That would be me. It would be worth the drive. Just kidding. Just kidding. Kellamity is so not woth it. Peace out.

  60. A former Jill fan says:

    Morgaine, I’m not so sure that Kelly’s “broke people” tweet was in response to someone using that as a name. It doesn’t come up when searching twitter. Any other name does come up in search.

    I searched 3thingsbrokepeopledo and thingsbrokepeopledo but nothing came up in search. Unless I’m spelling it wrong.

    Also, several comments before and after that are just comments Kelly has made, not in response to anyone’s tweet.

    It looks like a slam against broke people to me.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      It’s a trending topic on Twitter. The 3 is supposed to be a #

      Lots of people are making comments on #thingsbrokepeopledo

      It’s a hashtag, which is like a keyword, and they mark it with a # so the Twitter system picks it up if you do a search. It’s not a username it’s a topic.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        It WAS a slam against broke people, but she was playing along with what other people would do. It was just in really bad taste for someone in her position to participate in that so that’s why I slammed her.

        • Kat says:

          Morgy, somewhere upthread I asked you about Teresa’s book. If you have time to look for it I’d love to know if you recall the quote.

          • vilzvet says:

            I have the book and THOUGHT I had read it all the way through but will look again for that quote!

          • Mel says:

            Yeah, unfortunately, it is in the book. It looks like it has been thrown in there for no apparent reason. It is my belief that T is not being malicious as much as she is trying to make the book interesting by throwing in some “saucy” housewife drama.

          • Kat says:

            @Mel~ Thank you. I couldn’t wrap my head around writing such a thing. I had thought that maybe it would turn out to be internet gossip.

            Thank you too Vilzvet.

            The people here are great.

  61. cusi77 says:

    Oh! Olivia, you always come with the best observations! It is very true… those kids lost more in that divorce…

  62. A former Jill fan says:

    Good night, Hooked and sister Wanda! Pleasant dreams! (Don’t dream about jill or kelly!)

  63. A former Jill fan says:

    That’s right, Lynn, Vicki is another one who looks down her nose at people who don’t have a lot of money. That’s just one of the reasons I don’t like her.

  64. A former Jill fan says:

    Well, I’m off here too. Kitty to give meds to and feed all 3 of the brats! ‘Night all!

  65. Kansas Girl says:

    Kelly’s hot chocolate (cocoa?) comment didn’t surprise me. In her plans with Jen, Jill said she wanted to serve hot chocolate (cocoa?) and marshmallows. I remember this because I thought “Oooooo, klassy!”. And I also noticed someone looking in the goodie bag at the skating party and commenting on marshmallows, so there must have been some (designer marshmallows???) in the bag. Wasn’t it Jill who pointed in a bag and said something about wanting one? I took it to mean a marshmallow.

  66. boston02127 says:

    I just got done catching up. You guys always make me laugh.

    Kelly is so dumb it’s irrating. I can’t see anyone in the future wanting to hire her. Soon she can get a taste of what’s it’s like being broke. Maybe her bff Jill will take care of her bills. ha ha

    I fell asleep earlier and now everyone here is going to bed. I may have to go read a book! What has this world come to?

    • Kat says:

      Reading is brain food, not my posts to be sure! But books are good.
      I haven’t been to the library in a few months. I’ve been using the internet instead. And I’ve read and learneda lot. The definition of teabagging. The meaning of STFU.
      That I really like this blog.
      Oh I hate Jill Zarin And Kelly… bigmouthed, entitled, arrogant Kelly.

  67. Katiecoo says:

    Ok so just saw 3 of the previews–Jill’s “surprise” part deux, hair salon, the alex /simon dinner…what else? The “Reconciliation” one is a montage of last week…??? Is anyone else seeing it?

    My impression of the “surprise”. Jill keeps saying “I had to come…” over and over definitely insinuating she was considering NOT coming and what a big deal it is that she came. WTF? What better does she have to do? She keeps making it about HER and her drama around attending or not. She’s gonna get more TV air time, a nice party, probably a free meal…and it’s like some kind of burden for her to show up? She brings that up at least 4 times like it’s such a big deal that she even came. :::rolling my eyes::::

  68. RileyKitty says:

    I missed you all!! I was busy with family obligations.

    I sent a tweet to Kelly: @kikilet real charitable you crazy entitled bitch.

  69. A former Jill fan says:

    Peeking in before turning in for the night.

    Kat, if you like to read a lot, have you checked amazon’s kindle for pc or barnes & noble’s desktop reader? I discovered both this month and downloaded both to my pc. Both readers are free to download and there are lots of free books. 🙂

    • Kat says:

      A former Jill fan, thank you I will check those out. I did not realize they were priced so reasonably. 😉
      Thank you.

  70. GreatExpectations says:

    I still think that Kelly’s past in the modeling world plays a big part in her present mental dysfunction. There has been a lot of reporting in the press lately about the abuse of young girls by older men in the industry. Kelly was locked in that world and a relationship with an older man powerful in the fashion world until pretty late in her life. I think being unfamiliar with that world we all really have no clue how much that may have shaped her and created the Kellyland we all know and find really clueless and even, cruel.

    Here is a link to an article about Karen Mulder, the 90’s supermodel and her breakdown which she has said was do partly to the abuse she suffered by men in the fashion industry.

    I’d like to hear what people think. I mean the sexual abuse of young girls is very well known in the fashion world, but little discussed. Witness the latest about the photographer Terry Richardson (who Kelly’s friend Rachel Zoe recently did a shoot with). Do you think Kelly was abused and since she can’t own it or question how insanely great her ex is she has created this entirely other world (Kellyland) where she is 13 and safe from all that?

    • GreatExpectations says:

      Here’s another link on Karen Mulder:


      Her father is quoted as saying:
      “She was ruined by cocaine and the knowledge that her life as a model was over. She’s broken, emotionally and physically. When I visited her, I saw notebooks full of her mad ideas. She’s accused everyone and everything. It’s awful.”

      She accused him of abuse as well and last year attacked her plastic surgeon.

    • 212 says:


      Did you note that Gilles was mentioned in some of the comments?

      I had no idea about Karen Mulder, very sad…she was a favorite.

      • GreatExpectations says:

        Wow, I hadn’t caught that comment. “Gilles Bensimon was my (well educated) guess too. There are a lot of stories circulating about him harrassing young models. ”

        The writer notes: “Our persistent willingness to be taken aback by the notion that wealthy, powerful, older men, when left in charge of a younger, poorer, female workforce, might generally act as something less than gentlemen, is testament to the power the multibillion-dollar fashion industry wields as an expert creator of narratives. It’s this attitude of disbelief that allows agency directors to claim they had no idea some of their models were using cocaine and that some of their bookers were dealing it to them, or that some photographers like to sleep with models and some bookers encourage models to go along with it. Our endless capacity for shock is what gets Karen Mulder sedated and lets Gerald Marie retain, to this day, his position as head of Elite Paris.”

  71. MickeyMouth says:

    Hi Lynn,

    Congratulations on another great blog.

    I have been making some housewife Photoshops in an effort to brush up on my Photoshop skills. I made one (wicked witch) into a banner with the I Hate Jill Zarin tagline. I just did one with Jill as the Queen of Hearts – except instead of “off with their heads”, I hear her saying “your not my friend.”

    Feel free to use any of these chops for your site if you want.

  72. A former Jill fan says:

    I understand what you were saying now Morgaine. Thanks for explaing that to me. I’ve never heard of trending.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      No problem. Twitter is one of those things you have to use for a bit to understand. It’s really easy though. Everyone who doesn’t have a Twitter account should consider going ahead and signing up. You control whom you follow, and you can block people from following you. You don’t have to sign up to follow people specifically if you don’t want to – there’s a list called Bravolebrities that you can join that will give you a stream of all the Bravo personalities. It’s a convenient way to keep track of what’s going on.

  73. lillybee says:

    Kelly seems to be so disturbed that I no longer find her snarkable.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      If she was an average personality with a mental illness, I wouldn’t either, but her base personality is so self-absorbed and nasty, it reduces the amount of empathy I have for her.

  74. Mary says:

    I am officially hooked on this blog now. Grrrr, now I’ll get nothing done!
    Watching Kelly “breakthrough” was very disturbing. My prior assumption of has been that she is horrifically moronic and an immature narcissist, yet fairly benign, now I’m not so comfortable with that assessment.
    Watching her dark descent into madness the last two episodes has left me with the same eerie nightmare sensation I would experience were I to witness the Kool aid pitcher guy”breaking thru” my fence with his pitcher filled with blood rather than Kool aid. Saying something like “Yo dead!,” instead of “Ooooooh, yeah!”
    Her eyes were the most frightening. Blank, yet giving the impression that something was there behind them; something stealthily shuffling around in her darkened mind….
    Oooooooh. Now I’m creeping out myself out! It’s so gross!
    Anyway, I have noticed that on many different occasions, Poor Kelly has mentioned her shyness. She also mentioned during a spa session with the other HWs that she had a bout sometime in the past with something that sounded akin to agoraphobia. Has someone else noted this? Is this a possible clue to the poor thing’s problem?
    Could it be symptomatic of some imbalance?

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      Yes, it’s symptomatic. I don’t know if it was agoraphobia or just paranoia, though. I’m pretty sure Kelly is driven more by paranoia than anything else.

  75. MickeyMouth says:

    Has anyone read the below linked report about an upcoming US Weekly article. It goes into further detail about Kelly’s behavior after the cameras stopped rolling:

    “Like, after the cameras were turned off, Kelly went to her room and sat on her bed, rocking and telling producers that Bethenny wanted to kill her.”

    “Continuing their fight off-camera, Bethenny and Kelly, their voices echoing through the mansion, in indulged in name-calling until Kelly fled to her room at 11:30 p.m. “Producers had to calm Kelly. She was on her bed, rocking back and forth,” says the show source. “She kept saying she thought Bethenny was going to kill her. It went on for hours!” Deciding Kelly wasn’t in the mind-set to film, producers booked her an 8 a.m. flight home to New York – “No one thought she was stable,” says one source. ”


    • chismosa says:

      yes it is in my US Weekly. She was ROCKING HERSELF BACK AND FORTH and was inconsolable!- so they had to get her the first flight off the island.

      I wonder though, then when did Bethenny call/ contact Jill re: Kelly? To meet her at the airport in NY i mean? If this was all that one night, it must have been very very very early in the a.m. (before they filmed them all having breakfast outside and Ramona with the ‘note’ from Kelly)- that Bethenny or whomever would have called Jill, right?
      That is odd…

      but i do believe US about how crazy she was. God i hope this means she’s off next season, along with ‘Zilla.

      • Had Enough! says:

        We didn’t have the benefit of a clock on the screen to know when things happened, but it seemed as though Bethenny yelling “go to sleep, go to sleep” happened fairly early in the evening because unless they edited things out of order (not unusual) there was quite a bit of the evening left to go. Shortly thereafter, Bethenny turned it off like a light switch when she realized that Kelly was really losing it and was completely irrational. So it is hard to imagine that Bethenny continued to fight with Kelly throughout the evening.

        Even assuming Bethenny did trash talk Kelly to the press, how on earth do you get from that to “wants to kill me?” The only evidence we have that Bethenny even did this is Jill’s comments and Kelly’s comments but they never mention even a single article that they think could be attributed to Bethenny. The worst press about Kelly was about the assault charge and that didn’t come from Bethenny. It is possible that Kelly complained to Jill about bad press (notwithstanding PR101) and Jill put a little bug in her ear that Bethenny was talking to the press about her, and Kelly just took that piece of JillShit and made it into a big huge nightmare about Bethenny wanting to kill her. All aided by substance abuse.

        • ridicurhony says:

          it was not clear to me what the source was for that reporting that Kelly was rocking back and forth. It doesn’t really matter, except the reporting that Bethenny continued to argue with Kelly – which I have a hard time believing. If all the rest of the wives there say it was way worse than was shown and the wives who weren’t there couldn’t understand her either, and then wanted the wives on the island to explain it, that’s all the proof I need.

          Jill is culpable though, why in the hell did she not just tell Kelly, ‘bethenny is not going to HURT you’ instead of telling her things like ‘bethenny shouldn’t do that, you need to stay away from her’ ????? Another reason for BRAS to reject her surprise visit.

          my guess for the ones leaving the show because they feel they look bad: kelly, jill, luanne. but bravo might lure them into staying by claiming they’ll be shown in a better light the next season. I still don’t think bravo takes any responsibility for their mental states or cares. don’t u think they have to sign some kind of agreement that would be in bravo’s favor (showing the women at their worst)?

          I know Ramona has a mouth, but I still like her and I really don’t think Jill runs her. I’ve been in situations like this where I’m putting up with someone’s mouth as just kind of a go along to get along kind of deal with work and family. It is possible to blow off what a controlling person is doing/saying. You end up tolerating it and not caring what they say, and they end up thinking they’re in complete control. It only works if you’re pretending like you’re paying attention to them though – lol.

          • Katiecoo says:

            Totally agree w/ both of you. I do NOT believe B continued to fight withher after the switch flipped and they realized the severity of the mental illness going on. And yes J was all “let Bethenny be Bethenny” like being abusive and attacking is just part of Bethenny’s nature. YUK

        • 212 says:

          Yes, I also felt that B yelling, “go to sleep……” was edited in from earlier in the evening.

          There are many parts to this that I just don’t get.

          They reportedly, “put her on a plane …..” no escort, and Jilly was asked to meet the plane in NYC?

          Why wasn’t someone from the Bravo staff designated to travel with her and get her home once they landed? Being that she was in such a fragile/volatile/questionable state of mind, it seems very reckless and irresponsible.

          So many holes in this story….

        • Real Bullsh!t says:

          Kelly states she was drinking wine and she never drinks wine. OK. In a bonus video clip on Bravo.com it shows Kelly having Luann and Sonja at her Hamptons home for drinks. She said something to the fact that when she was with Gilles she was spoiled because she drank only the best wine, now she drinks beer. We have seen her drink beer on several occasions as well as serve Patron Cafe shots declaring that they are her “favorite” but then has the audacity (ignorance) to proclaim several times during the season that she does not drink. Bitch is whacked.

      • GreatExpectations says:

        I think the time of the call must have been around 11:30. Jill said she flew out of NYC at 3 am.

      • Morgaine Swann says:

        Rocking is common when someone has a mental breakdown. It’s from a neurological need for comfot – the rocking eases a tiny bit of the tension. When someone starts that, they’re not in control of themselves any more. They did exactly the right thing getting Kelly out of there, though I wish they’d taken her to a hospital. If Jill had any compassion in her at all, she’d have cancelled the private plane and met Kelly at the airport, then taken her to an emergency room.

        For future reference, when a person has a severe break like that, or is severely depressed so you think they might act out, get them to the nearest emergency room. They’ll do an intake and transfer them to a mental ward somewhere, which is where a person in that state should be for their own safety.

        • Morgaine Swann says:

          I mean “comfort” – I can spell, I just can’t type. Sorry about that!

  76. lillybee says:

    If that was true, what a mess.

  77. Smompy says:

    234 comments posted while I was work – wow!

    Lynn, I’ve been singing the same song about Ramona for years. Why, OH WHY does she make such a huge effort to remain freinds with someone who constantly attacks and backstabs her the way Jill does? I’m thinking that either Jill has some dirt on her, or else Ramona is just one of those people who (once a real, solid friendship has been established) remains loyal till the bitter end. I’ve known a few women like that, although Ramona never struck me as that type – not until I saw her demonstrating this behavior with Jill Saunders. Maybe it has something to do with her insecurities or commitment issues which could stem from the turmoil she witnessed as a child? IDK. I really don’t get it.

    Personally I don’t think Ramona is a masochist who stays close to Jill because she enjoys Jill’s abuse or rgar she’s co-dependent w/ Jill. It seems to me Ramona is a soft touch. At Jen’s party Ramona didn’t let Jill walk all over her. She yelled right back at Jill. It really wasn’t until Jill sarted her fake crying and wah, wah, wah stuff that Ramona backed down completely and tried to hug Jill and calmly reassure her about their friendship. In face to face situations, Ramona tends to go into that calm and reassuring mode is she feels like she might have seriously offended someone or, (God forbid) made them cry. She’s done this even when it was obvious that she believed her alleged offense was in fact totally inoffensive. IIRC a similar scenario to this played out on last year’s reunion show. Ramona wasn’t pulling any punches in talking about the declasse countess, but when Lulu suddenly held that pillow up to hide her her face and seemed to be starting to cry, Ramona switched gears and softened up immediately. I don’t think she apologized or said she didn’t mean what she’d said, but she did quickly switch from attackive mode to the calmer, more caring Ramona – right after catching sight of LuAnn’s teary eyes.

    As far as Avery’s apparent disdain for or embarssment about beng a part of her paarents’ non-wedding wedding reNewal thing, I totally get it. On various blogs I’ve seen her behavior discussed and read many comments from people saying that unlike Avery, THEIR teenagers love and support everything they do, just as they allegedly did with their own parents. Well, at age 15 I most definitely didn’t feel that way toward my parents. I don’t remember any of my friends feeling that way about their parents either. We were all pretty much on the same page – we were embrassed as hell by our parents and thought they were the stupidest people to have ever walked the earth. Wasn’t till I was in grad school that I finally realized they were actually the smart ones and I’d been the idiot all along. So IMO Avery is just being a normal fifteen year old. She also seems to be a little more camera shy since she got the braces. That last part was just a random observation:)

    • Smompy says:

      Sorry for the myriad of typing & spelling errors. Probably shouldn’t have smoked all that crack before commenting!

      • Squirrels says:

        “Maybe it has something to do with her insecurities or commitment issues which could stem from the turmoil she witnessed as a child? IDK. I really don’t get it.”
        IDK? = I Did Kelly?
        OK, that’s it…. may I request a glossary or please type in a full sentence format?
        TYVM 😀

  78. Adgirl says:

    Hi Lynn, Thanks again for this blog!! SMOOCH!
    You brought up two things:
    1.”Here’s the thing though, it wasn’t even Bethenny that told Kelly to have a one night stand, it was Sonja! Sonja wasn’t even mentioned! “
    I noticed right off the bat that Kelly “transferred” the 1 night stand remark to Bethenny. Personally I think Kelly has BIG issues with s-e-x, So, when Sonja suggested Kelly do something “dirty”, Kelly immediately attributes the disgusting suggestion away from Sonja (whom she likes) to Bethenny whom she hates.

    2. “In the end, even as Jill continued to berate Ramona, Ramona tried to hug Jill and calm her down. What is it with Ramona? Bethenny is nice to her and she insults and criticizes her on the Brooklyn Bridge, Jill is a horrible monster to her and she hugs her. “
    It seems consistent to me that an adult abused child will comfort the Angry Person and criticize the friendly one.


  79. Zarout! says:

    Ramona & Jill’s relationship illustrates the term “frenemies” to a tee. Move over Paris & Nicole!

  80. Quincy IL says:

    Good morning.

    I found the posts about Rosie fascinating. What exactly was her job? She was the babysitter, cook, luggage carrier, closet organizer, laundress, etc.

    Look at the hours that she worked! I’d love to know how much she was paid for all of that.

    Plus, Rosie’s mom had to raise Rosie’s four kids. The Countess was not Rosie’s friend. She was her Mistress.

  81. Olivia says:

    It is clear that Bravo builds each season series around a theme setting. For instance, this season made it the basis of Ramona’s so called “renewal” which tied in nicely with her face cream product that she was about to launch and brought in the so called “renewal” ceremony with Mario which is the season ending episode.

    Season #2 was Jill’s “Creaky Joints” planned event which wrapped up the series for the season.

    Season #1 had the cast gathered together to celebrate the holidays at Jill’s invitation where one of Alex’s kids was running around, out of control, and stabbing a hamburger to death.

    The same holds true with the NJ franchise which closed the first season with the infamous dinner scene and table tipping as Theresa supposedly gathered everyone together for a final meal.

    Season #2 of the NJ franchise will celebrate the baptism of Theresa’s new baby and we have 15 agonizing episodes to go before reaching the conclusion.

    These series are built around “themes” and the angst that is built up in order to arrive at a final episode. The “renewal vows” episode, which closes out Season #3 of the NY franchise, is somewhat “bogus” as it is an excuse to gather the whole cast together for a bonding episode and close out on a high note of expectation.

    Having only been a sporadic viewer of the Orange County wives, it seemed that one of their final episodes to wrap the season was a cocktail party of sorts. These ladies appeared much too shallow to garner much interest for me but one can see the theme event threading its way through most episodes to close out a season.

    If NYC returns for season #4, it would not be surprising to see a theme built around Sonja.

  82. Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

    Okay, I know that this is becoming obsessive, but I findd kikilet’s latest tweet really creepy. Here’s why: it’s a picture of Kelly pumping gas in a very short dress. Actually, I think that it’s a shirt with no pants, but that’s not the point. Last week, a picture of Elle MacPherson, another of Gilles’ exes, came across one of the celeb gossip sites. Elle is by her car in a very short dress (again, shirt/no pants), and the caption was about how great Elle’s legs are. A major difference between the two pictures is that Kelly made someone take the picture of Kelly (who is the poor person who has to film her 24/7, anyway?), and the picture of Elle is a candid/paparazzi-type shot.

    It was already clear that Gilles has a type, but I have to believe that Kelly put up the picture of herself pumping gas because she is trying to compete with Elle. For what, who knows? Gilles attention? To win the leg contest? Kelly seems to have adopted Elle’s hairdo, too . . . Check it out:

    Picture of Kelly:


    1. Pumping gas http://twitpic.com/1se323 about 5 hours ago via TwitPic

    Picture of Elle’s legs:


    Elle’s/Kelly’s hair:


    Now I just have to figure out who is creepier: Kelly for, well, everything, or me for spending the time to do this.

    • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

      Just wondering — why does it say, “your comment is awaiting moderation” at the top? I must admit, I never read the rules for the blog, but I have to assume that this comment doesn’t violate any. Too many links?

      • boston02127 says:

        That has happened to me when I’ve posted more than one link.

        • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:


        • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

          Boston, can you see my original post, or just my question about it waiting to be moderated? I’m just wondering if it’s one of those “dangling” posts to which everyone keeps down below. Thanks again.

  83. desertgal66 says:

    Had Enough! says:
    May 30, 2010 at 6:08 am

    We didn’t have the benefit of a clock on the screen to know when things happened, but it seemed as though Bethenny yelling “go to sleep, go to sleep” happened fairly early in the evening because unless they edited things out of order (not unusual) there was quite a bit of the evening left to go. Shortly thereafter, Bethenny turned it off like a light switch when she realized that Kelly was really losing it and was completely irrational. So it is hard to imagine that Bethenny continued to fight with Kelly throughout the evening.

    I was thinking the same thing. I have a really hard time believing that Bethenny continued the fight after her “Go to sleep!” moment. You can literally see Bethenny back down and tone down her responses. At the most, I can see that Bethenny may have continued to try and gently talk Kelly down. The one I can visualize continuing the name calling is Kelly.

    Even assuming Bethenny did trash talk Kelly to the press, how on earth do you get from that to “wants to kill me?” The only evidence we have that Bethenny even did this is Jill’s comments and Kelly’s comments but they never mention even a single article that they think could be attributed to Bethenny. The worst press about Kelly was about the assault charge and that didn’t come from Bethenny. It is possible that Kelly complained to Jill about bad press (notwithstanding PR101) and Jill put a little bug in her ear that Bethenny was talking to the press about her, and Kelly just took that piece of JillShit and made it into a big huge nightmare about Bethenny wanting to kill her. All aided by substance abuse.

    I have to agree here. Kelly told Sonja, when they were sitting at the table, right before she really went off, that Bethenny had attacked her in the press “every single day”, and that B. had “gone after her little girls”. When Sonja asked Kelly if she had proof of that, Kelly said, “Well, who else could it be?”

    Stop and think, Kelly. It is ridiculous to think that Bethenny, at any point, made it a point to call up the press every day and take potshots at Kelly. If she had, the evidence of that would be fairly easy to locate. For example, it was very easy to find the comments that Bethenny made about Gwyneth Paltrow and Rachel Zoe. But, in an Internet search, the only housewife who continually made derogatory comments about Kelly is JILL.

    Then, Kelly also said, when she was lunching with Jill, LuAnn, and Jen that Bethenny has specifically told her that “I went out of my way to conduct a smear campaign against you.” Well, we know Bethenny said just the opposite-that she hadn’t talked to the press about Kelly. I think Kelly twists what she hears into just the opposite, and/or hears what she wants to hear, and then convinces herself it is true. Classic schizophrenic behavior.

    Kelly says that Bethenny “shoved” her kids out of the way at a book signing. I don’t believe that. I think it’s possible that Bethenny was asked to pose with someone, and, if Sea and Teddy were standing there, she may have touched them gently on the shoulder and said, “Excuse me”, instead of just rudely shoving past them.

    Kelly behaves like a paranoid schizophrenic. My mom was one, so I know the behavior very well. And that would explain how she got from what began as a mild personality clash with Bethenny to
    “Bethenny talks to the press every day about me.”
    “Bethenny hurt my children.”
    “Bethenny said she conducted a smear campaign against me.”
    “Bethenny wants to literally kill me.”
    “Bethenny is a freak.”
    “I called Bethenny a ho-bad, which she IS.”
    “Bethenny sleeps her way around America.”
    “Bethenny is a predator.”
    “Bethenny is psychotic.”

    Especially if Jill was feeding her paranoia, and I don’t doubt that she was. If all those statements, taken together, don’t indicate an obsessive paranoia, then I don’t what would.

    If I were Bethenny, I’d stay far, far away from this chick.

    Same with Alex, to a slightly less obsessive degree. In just a few short days on the island, Alex became a “kabuki vampire with a lot of inner rage and resentment who is channeling the devil.” I mean…huh?

    • ridicurhony says:

      desertgal, do you think Kelly’s school had ‘opposite day’ in 1979 and she got stuck there? lol.

      actually at this point I would believe anything – I can see Beth slipping back into a hormonal screaming if Kelly kept going on with the You want to Kill me crap. Do you think we’ll ever really know for sure what went down on that island?

    • Katiecoo says:

      I totally agree and if they were calm and kind to her at the Reunion I think it’s because they’ve read the workings of Gavin DeBecker and know engaging with this kind of kook is DANGEROUS. Best to drop the rope and step backwards slowly. I can see next season. Jill, Luann and Kelly sitting around dissing all the fabulous things Bethenny is doing like a trio of Stalkers. Blech!

  84. desertgal66 says:

    Sorry, I just meant to italicize Had Enough!’s comments-I don’t know why the whole post is stuck on italics.

    • ridicurhony says:

      desertgal, try control ‘i’, sometimes I hit that when emailing and it puts italics on.

  85. ridicurhony says:

    I have a stupid question – how do I post at the bottom instead of doing reply posts? gawd, i would never make it on the other forum thingy.

  86. ridicurhony says:

    hahahaha, well sometimes when i do THAT, w/e i just did, it posts on the last reply i made instead of the bottom. !

  87. ridicurhony says:

    ignore my advice -all the posts are italic now

  88. Had Enough! says:

    Miss “I won a prize for being the most charitable” Kelly Never-been-nobody-never-will-be-anybody but a stoooooooooopid, crazy, nasty bitch who thinks we can’t see that the sunshine-lollipops-gummi bears- cartwheels-unicorns BS is all a very poor act is now hacking on people who are broke.

    So much for being charitable. Writing a check or auctioning off the used jeans of some movie stars is not the same thing as being charitable in your heart, and feeling for those less fortunate than you.

    Kellamity’s version of charity is “will it get my ugly leathery mug into the paper?”

    Plus she says “3thingsbrokepeopledo is they lie about everything, like “check is in the mail.’ its 2010, the mail delivery is very fast,lol.”

    Well, you stoooooooooooopid bitch, that’s ONE thing. Counting to three eludes you, does it?

    The reason they lie about it is because they don’t have any money and unkind people like you are pressing them for money they don’t have. You STOOOOOOOOOOPID BITCH.

    Go ahead, try to blame this on Bethenny. You are ugly right down to the core and all you achieved by going on this tv show, you fame-hobag, is letting the entire country (and Canada!) see who you really are. Were I an organization trying to raise money, I’d stay as far away from you as possible. I would never give a dime to an organization with which you are associated.

    By the way, miss greenie, how much gas does that huge truck take? Oh, and your organic gummi bears? Even if the corn is organically grown, IT IS STILL HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. It is still a highly processed food. You moron. Who makes a video about baking healthy cupcakes which you then top with canned Duncan Hines frosting, which has nothing that ever resembled actual food in it. You moron.

  89. anniieee says:


    Found this site and you can check everyone’s net worth… Tamra Barney–lol 10,000 dollars… Alex 400,000… Sonja is our richest housewife.. But Kelly at 15,000 million..giles must have wanted out bad.

    • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

      I would love to see the Countless’s reaction when she sees that she and Danielle Staub have the same net worth” $2 Million? It’s the same number, but I was surprised that Danielle has so much, ad Lulu has so little . . .

  90. couchon says:

    Has Jillzilla ever had girlfriends her own age? I think she is the darling of Gloria’s posse. Jillzilla uses expressions that are dated for her generation but are common with the golden girls who lived through the Depression. (Note to Kellamity the Depression was when broke people cut in front of you in line to get a slice of bread.) My father used to complain about my uncle, a butcher the same way Jill does about her “friends.” In so many words a few of Jill’s issues-“she never offered me a drink of water-she didn’t ask if I needed to use the bathroom-Bobby put a roof over your head- you ate his food. “My dad’s complaint at my uncle, the butcher’s funeral-“his whole life he never gave me a pork chop.” Jillzilla sounds lke she hangs with her elders for whom we all have sympathy because these are supposed to be the golden years. Jillousy never learned to play well with others.

    • ridicurhony says:

      i think you’re onto something here!!
      I was just thinking the same thing about Kelly – I think she’s hanging around with people much younger than herself (easy to look big to a 20 yr old) and is picking up ‘hobag’ and the current younger generation urban dictionary type lingo. i had to bookmark urban dictionary to understand what my kid was saying to me on chats when he started college. ha

  91. jenni says:

    Lynn, I have a great new banner for you. Please email me so I can send it to you!

  92. otaypanky says:

    Here’s my issue: Luann, “Who says ho-bag anymore?”
    When did one EVER use the term you NITWIT

  93. otaypanky says:

    Imagine keeping Jill for season 4. She has alienated the BRAS. Luann will take cover and run like hell. She’s got Kelly.
    This rude, crude individual has thrown more people out of events (her own and those hosted by others) than a West Village Bouncer. She has controlled guest lists by saying if so and so is there, I won’t be. She tried to blow up the cruise by 1) not showing 2) booking another holiday and trying to co opt the guests.
    I would relish watching Jill show up at events now where she is odd man out.

    • ridicurhony says:

      yeah, on Jill. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see her on again. She’s too self centered to step down. Sometimes I have wondered if she would because her refusal to blog on bravo makes it look like she’s starting to see she can’t control negative comments, but nah! I think she’ll be back unless they just don’t offer her a contract. Plus, she thinks she’s running bravo, so probably thinks she can demand them show her in a different light.

    • chismosa says:

      i like that – West Village Bouncer! ha ha

  94. otaypanky says:

    Lynn…we’re back to dangling messages again.

  95. Olivia says:

    Just wondering if we were getting a taste of the paranoia way back at an event that Bethenny was hosting to introduce her Skinnygirl drink and Kelly breezed in. Bethenny seemed surprised to see her after their altercation I believe at Jill’s place.

    Alex was there and Bethenny and Kelly stepped aside to make amends and forgive one another. Then Bethenny poured drinks for Alex, Kelly and herself. She offered the drink to Kelly mentioning the ingredients. Kelly declined to taste it. Bethenny kept urging her to try a sip and Kelly kept begging off saying she had to pick up her kids from school. Bethenny urged once again and Kelly finally took a small sip declaring that it was “sweet”. Kelly then rushed off.

    Was she thinking at that time that Bethenny was putting something in the drink? This is the episode that was brought to Jill’s attention where she sent Kelly the e-mail admonishing her for attending Bethenny’s event so it was established at that time that Jill and Bethenny were on the outs. Kelly became indignant over Jill’s e-mail – at least showing at that time that she was aware of Jill’s little game – but after that the Kelly/Bethenny wars heated up.

    However, it seems that Kelly moved right into Jill’s camp regardless of Jill’s maneuvers to keep her close so something must have triggered Kelly to return to the “hate Bethenny” mode when they had just declared a truce and it may very well be that Jill was “feeding” her misinformation in order to ensure Kelly’s loyalty. Something along the line: “Why are you talking to her when she is smearing you in the press?” And dumbo Kelly bought into it.

    • otaypanky says:

      I think kelly may be an alcholic with some recovery experience. I think ramona knows it also, which is why she told kelly that she thinks she is allergic to alcohol. That is the definition of an alcoholic.
      She is obviously not in recovery now but is attempting controlled drinking. She stated repeatedly that she does not drink. But she is drinking beer all the time…that is drinking. She pushes away hard alcohol, that is her attempt at control and also because she may be known in the recovery community of NYC, she is trying to show…Oops, I thought I had a drinking problem but look at me now…beer is ok.
      Just a thought.

      • ridicurhony says:

        i commented on this already too, it makes sense. normal people don’t proclaim ‘i don’t drink’ and then proceed to drink. also, when beth tried to get her to taste the skinny girl drink in the other episode, kelly says ‘why is she pushing me to drink?’ or something like that – also something a ‘recovering’ alcoholic would say.

        however, i think not wanting that skinny girl drink was also about it being Bethenny’s product and she’s always going on about how terrible it is for these women to sell product. She thought if she dissed it, people would take note? Goes along with her freak out over the gift bag.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I think that’s pretty much what happened. Kelly didn’t like Bethenny to begin with but decided to try and play nice for the cameras. I was impressed with what seemed like her decision after the email not to let Jill say who she could or couldn’t be friends with . At party where B announced her engagement Kelly acted pleased for her and even introduced Jason to Jill. It looked like she was actually trying to stay neutral. I thought I might just like this new Kelly! So what happened? All of a sudden there were lots of segments where K and J are hanging out and Kelly begins her vendetta against Bethenny. Most of this time Bethenny was away. She made two trips to LA to see her father and mentioned to Alex that she had an out of town business trip as well. So she wasn’t interacting with Kelly. Jill was feeding Kelly’s dislike of Bethenny. And I doubt if that was very hard to do. Bethenny has a growing brand. Kelly’s jewelery line ended in a lawsuit. Bethenny got engaged, pregnant and subsequently married. Kelly has stated that she wants a husband and more children. Bethenny is getting her own show, Kelly did a guest shot for a pilot that didn’t get picked up. Bethenny’s star is rising. Kelly’s is fading away. She threw in with Jill because she believed that Jill was the true star of the RHONY. And that didn’t work out either! She is frustrated and bitter. Now she is trying to make nice with B via Twitter because she realized she backed the wrong horse.
      As for the supposed bullying, that’s her story and she’s sticking to it. She needs an excuse for behaving the way she did. Kelly has said that she’s a conservative Republican. This is a typical Fox News manuever. If you repeat something false often enough it becomes true.
      I don’t think she is schizoprenic.(sp?) I sincerely doubt that her family or ex husband would allow her to retain custody of those children if she were. She is spoiled, stupid and probably has a substance abuse problem.

      • ridicurhony says:

        omg! (lightbulb goes on) I had that Faux news thought yesterday about the Al Sharpton comment. He’s not their friend and I wondered if she saw something there about him because I did look again and there was something between him and O’reily about not handling the truth – or maybe bill o just says it all the time.

        love the idea that she’s a conservative republican pushing condoms and calling poor people liars!

        • morning says:

          I’ve always said, if you have to be told that the news is fair and balanced, then you aren’t capable of figuring it out yourself and they can then tell you Anything and you’ll believe it. Who better fits that demographic than Kelly?

      • ElleNYC says:

        @Mamaz, Well said, I agree completely. Kelly backed the wrong horse. Actually, she has backed herself into a corner. I am not sure who will get the pink slip first from Andy Cohen: Jill, Kelly or LuAnn.

  96. MickeyMouth says:

    I think maybe Bethenny did say something about a smear campaign. I can see them arguing –

    Kelly says you went to the press about me and my kids and Bethenny sarcastically says – Yeah, right I had a smear campaign against you.

    The problem is that instead of hearing this as sarcasm Kelly sees this as a confession.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      I’ve seen the episode many times – if Bethenny said anything about a smear campaign, it was cut out of the show. She never says it in the show as it aired.

  97. Olivia says:

    Given the opportunity, and with Bethenny striking out on her own, Sonja could very well become the next “break out star” on the series. Many commentators have remarked on her as a “breath of fresh” air so far and she does add some zing to the goings on.

    With that in mind, can anyone imagine how difficult that would be for Jill to have to contend with? Jill, who has watched her “star” fall this season alone, returning to find that she has another “enemy” who may just knock her down off her pedestal?

    Hard to understand how this cast can continue. What do they do with Kelly? How do they get her into the events that are part of the show when she has shown that she is unstable? Will she be palling around with Sonja, Ramona and Alex? Does she still remain within the Jill/Lu Ann orbit? It is difficult to understand the justification for her presence when the audience recognizes her instability which is not cute but a little frightening?

    Who has any real interest in Lu Ann? Or to be honest, Alex for that matter. Nice person but a bland storyline. If there is a season #4, I see it as Jill/Ramona/Sonja as the dominating leads and it just does not have the same appeal.

    And it is doubtful that after she has shown her true colors that any display of “redemption” on Jill’s part will not be bought by the audience who have had 3 seasons of her hateful pathology on display.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Speaking of bland I think Bravo should have a spin off with NJ housewive Jaqueline Laurita and Bobby Zarin. It could be marketed for insomniacs. They are two of the dullest people on television. Jac could stand around smiling and blinking and Bawby could talk real soft.

      • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

        Speaking of whom (and maybe this has already been commented on – – haven’t looked at the NJ blogs) . . . .did anyone notice at the beginning of the whole weird wine cellar/armory scene that Jacqueline wanted a glass of wine, and her husband said something like, “I suppose you want a glass of wine now,” in a rude way, and she squeaked back, “yeah, I do” with an uncomfortable giggle. He seems extremely controlling.

        • sbh says:

          I can’t be sure, will have to watch again, but I think Chris meant, I just got myself a glass of wine, and now that you see it, you are gonna want too.” Like the way you are not even thinking about Ice-cream, but you see someone else eating it, and you must have it. even a commercial can do that.

    • Kokuanani says:

      What do they do with Kelly? . . . Does she still remain within the Jill/Lu Ann orbit?

      I remarked above that they should spin these three off into a feature titled “Real Hobags of NYC.”

      • Kokuanani says:

        Hey, this is interesting: by doing a “blockquote” in my last comment, it turned the italics off. [Usually the text in a block quote is in italics.]


  98. otaypanky says:


    • MAMAZ says:

      WOW! He is obviously one of her friends. He talks about spending time with her and Bawby. Only one line about Alex McCord. He dismissed Ramona and trashed Bethenny and LuAnn.

      • otaypanky says:

        You so totally know this is jill’s handiwork. The only other housewife given a line of support is the one jill believes she can get removed from the show.
        BTW Ramona is a nyc housewife and Jill does not exemplify NYC women. I know. born and bred here.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      The only thing I found explosive about that article was his diarrhea of the keyboard. I found it difficult to read. He put a lot of thought into his musings but he doesn’t have a clear voice when writing them down. In 6000 words or less (he sure can ramble) I now understand that he is yeah Jill and nah Bethenny, Luann, Ramona, and Kelly. If he hadn’t dissed Kelly I might have thought she wrote that article. Then again, Kelly is a lunatic so maybe she did.

      • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

        This article is from January, before things went totally haywire with Jill (her behavior on the show, Amazongate, constantly referring people to her book). I wonder what he would write about her now having seen this season unfold. It’s clear that he thinks he knows them, so he would probably just write a defense.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Outrageous, biased, and shockingly inaccurate!

      This man has issues.

      Jill’s buddy and her grubby fingers are all over the article. Luann should look out. She’s on Jill’s hit list for season 4.

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      Now THAT guy is an ASSHAT!

  99. little rock says:

    i have been reading some of the comments on the housewives’ blogs and too many of them are critical of the four women for not allowing jill to stay. i tried posting a rebuttal on ramona’s blog but i know it will never make the cut, so i’m going to vent here. who am i kidding, i would vent here anyway.
    when jill showed up with bobby and said “surprise” that was an entirely different dynamic than if she had shown up alone. it was a “ladies only” trip, and as has been stated many times here, we KNOW ramona’s feelings about that particular faux pas. the other thing that made this an”OH, HELL NO!” moment was the fact that within the first two minutes, while the ladies were still stunned, jill let ramona know that she AND BOBBY were expecting to spend the night there. i didn’t catch it the first time, but during jill’s half assed explanation she said to ramona that THEY came a day early on their trip and would be going to st barts tomorrow. so, unless they made other sleeping arrangements on st john, they clearly intended to require a bed, as well as a bathroom and a glass of water.

    i really think that if jill walked out on that patio alone, it might have ended differently. personally, i’m glad she was shut down, but ramona NEVER said “i think you should leave” jill said it, hoping ramona or one of the others would say “oh, don’t go”.
    i don’t have a lot of sympathy for bobby. as the closest non-canine to jill, i would expect him to KNOW she is a trouble maker. so why then does he take bethenny to task for turning jill away? my daughter(baby little rock) is more forgiving. she thinks bobby wont know how evil jill is until he sees the episodes like we do. oh, the innocence of youth.
    and another thing. what the hell was that big, white, round thing toward the bottom of the holiday party gift bag. that wasn’t SWAG, that was a “today’s sponge”. is jill giving away birth control devices? or was THAT the marshmallow?
    ok, i feel better now.

    • otaypanky says:

      Totally 100% agreed. No one asked her to leave. She barged in, no one welcomed her and she stormed out. As usual, a steamroller. Self driven all the way.
      What is it with these Bravo posters anyway??????? How many relatives does Jill have? They must post all day long under different email addresses. Hell, one can have as many as one wishes. Now we’re onto Bravogate.

      • Kokuanani says:

        Totally 100% agreed. No one asked her to leave.

        This honked me off too. IMMEDIATELY Jill is howling to Bawby, “they kicked me out,” and then the “they kicked me out” lie continues at the “informational” lunch back in NYC.

        Just like Fox “news,” Jill thinks if she repeats crap enough, people will think it’s a fact.

  100. otaypanky says:

    RIDICURHONY: yes, did read your speculation that kelly is a relapsed drunk and in thinking about it, it all fits. What threw me was her paranoia…thought it had to be powder, smoked or snorted.
    But, her relationship to alcohol is so obviously that of a drunk with a history.

    Does anyone else have 4 comments dangling at the bottom? or is it just me?

    • ridicurhony says:

      well, my theory isn’t to say she doesn’t also have some severe type of mental problem too – i think the alcohol or maybe even previous drug use (flashbacks) don’t mix well with THAT. OR she could just be crazy.

    • morning says:

      only 3 comments, but yes

    • I'm just visiting this planet says:


    • I'm just visiting this planet says:

      Second time I’ve tried to do this—-YES- but I also have three

  101. vilzvet says:

    Oh was this posted yet? Great parody….

    • morning says:

      I love how Jill and Kelly are played by men.

    • Olivia says:

      After looking at some of those “Housewives” video on YouTube, it is amazing to me that these women are so self absorbed and so unaware as they seem to be while giving “interviews”. As a whole, they are completely clueless and so caught up with their own self importance that it is mind blowing.

      Countess Useless on two different videos insisting that “just because I am a countess does not make me perfect” has in one sentence described herself and her priorities to a tee. It’s all about a useless title that has no bearing on anything but she is determined to hold it close. Such a stupid and irrelevant woman.

      Bethenny’s parody on Simon is just not funny. Whoever thought that this was a good idea, and referring to him as “gay”, is rather ironic now that Jason is being referred to in the same words via the press. What goes around, comes around and karma is a bitch.

      Whoever those ladies and gents are that lampooned these phonies in the video hit the nail squarely on the head by their presentation. They managed to capture each and every one of them and as close to “reality” as possible.

      This is as close to their way of coming across to the audience as I have seen.

  102. jan says:

    After Watching the Luann Video – Luann is a ho bag.
    Big time ho bag

  103. HD says:

    Help me people, please! I am reading the article and it said Bethanny appeared on the Millionaire Mactchmaker. Did she? How did I miss it?! When, where, what happened. I need gawwwwwwwwwwsippppppppppp!

    • otaypanky says:

      No, this writer, obviously zarin’s friend said that WHEN B appears on MM looking for a straight husband….
      Jill is one wicked bitch.


      • HD says:

        Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….thank you!! Girl I was so lost. I watch the Millionaire Matchmaker too and I was thinking, how did I miss that?!!

        This article was written a while back. He may sing a different tune now that the crap has hit the fan with Jill. Probably not though since they are obviously friends.

        He sure did dog the Countless and I am GLAD! I almost dislike her as much as I HATE Jill but I tell you they are running neck and neck. I can’t stand her because she is ALWAYS trying to get in a dig and I hate that. Just say what you want to say.

        For instance, when she was talking to Sonja about wearing her hair up and then Sonja comes down the stairs for the party with her hair up and Luann says, “Oh you have your hair up. I was debating wearing mine up and I see you wore yours up too.” What Luann wanted to REALLY say was, “bitch how dare you wear your hair up. You know I’m the only woman in the Universe that can wear a french roll. Fall back.” She thinks she is soooooooooooo slick but I see right through her b.s. Whew…had to get that out today…satchels of gold! 🙂

        • otaypanky says:

          Jill must be going crazy knowing B has a fab sex life with a handsome hunk and she’s headbobbing fat old bobby for grab bag gifts.

          • Adios Lunatic says:

            LMAO!! I swear the only one of them that seeks out the press (other than for their branded stuff) is Jill. Kelly’s anger should be directed at her but that is never going to happen.

        • sbh says:

          Or how about last season when she had to ask her mom, like five times, if she was proud of Luann?

      • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

        These “Bethenny haters” make me sick. I am tired of them saying that Jason is gay. There is absolutely no proof to back up these claims up and you know that if he were really gay, an ex-boyfriend would have come out of the woodwork by now.

        • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

          My reply ended up in the wrong place. LOL! I was replying to the Christopher London blog and my comment ended up here.

  104. otaypanky says:


    Lynn, how can B be apprised of this article? Who is this Christopher London anyway. How could Jill call B’s husband gay and a fake husband likening him to Al Reynolds?

    I HATE JILL ZARIN MORE AND MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • anniieee says:

      I had to cut and paste the Jill..portion omg…

      The JEWESS vs. The COUNTLess

      You contrast Luann’s fake persona with that of “THE” Real Housewife from New York, the Long Island girl with the shana punim and the shapely tuchis, Jill Zarin who penned a book appropriately called “Secrets of a Jewish Mother” which is scheduled for release in April 2010 and you can instantly see that at least Ms. Zarin, who is quintessentially New York, has stuck with that of which she knows and she embodies. Having observed, been in the company of Ms. Zarin, her husband and photographed and spoken to them at many private events in New York City and the Hamptons over nearly a decade, the persona she and her husband represent on the show is comparable to her real life. This is a couple who is genuinely in love, who enjoy each others company and who often can be seen engaged in PDA’s (Public Displays of Affection) even when the camera is not on them. As a couple who work together and mutually share in each other’s success, to watch the mensch Bobby Zarin in the company of his Princess Jill, you can see that which you see in the every man who worked hard, achieved a degree of success and married the woman/princess of his dreams. He spends every day of his life relishing that dream, eternally grateful for sure, while still working hard to maintain the fortress which is his life and supporting his family. In short they remind you of why you should get married even if you do not want to engage in the same fame dance as the Zarin’s have. You see the two of them and can only say “Mazel Tov” even if at times I have found myself not always understanding every aspect of their courtship of fame and why they are attempting to market anything other than the family business, Zarin Fabrics.

      • anniieee says:

        ok here is a later article by London…


        Before we get ahead of ourselves, however, we need to remember, that “this is not personal, its strictly business.” Perhaps the hit on Jill Zarin was inevitable to preserve the franchise as she seemed to be getting a little too heady with her power, success, excessive manipulation and perceived stature as the most important of the RHONY, much like Moe Greene or Tony Soprano without his meds. In the words of Hyman Roth: “….this is the business we’ve chosen; I didn’t ask who gave the order, because it had nothing to do with business!”

        a must read… that is just one part

      • jackterrier says:

        I couldn’t even finish that ‘article’ and your copy/paste part is the reason why.
        How far up JillZarin’s ass is this asswipe?

    • MickeyMouth says:

      Until this “article” (ravings of a Jill underling) I had never heard anything about Jason being gay. I have excellent gaydar and I don’t get that vibe. The writer of this article is another story entirely.

  105. I'm just visiting this planet says:

    In today’s NY Times Style section (page 10), middle column, #17 there is a picture of a Renee Kroll Zarin. I’m thinking; relative?

  106. Adios Lunatic says:

    Does anyone else find it interesting that Kelly (aka Lunatic) chooses to brand herself with a drink? She tells anyone who will listen that she doesn’t drink and is constantly on B for the SkinnyGirl Margarita and SHE decides that the way to go is to create her OWN drink? Odd. And the last I knew beer was still alcohol and don’t even get me started on Patron. For not drinking she sure is interested in promoting her Kellade.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      She doesn’t hate Bethenny. She wants to BE Bethenny. That’s why she copies everything she does. Next she will have a line of baked goods. She could make a hefty profit off those funny brownies she eats.

    • Rusty says:

      Yea . . . could she possibly come up with an original idea? Looneytune is SO into herself and name . . . ie Kelly Time, Kellade. Kelly. Kelly. Kelly. SO amazing in her own mind. BTW . . . I hate jill zarin.

  107. otaypanky says:

    I am so outraged by this article. This is Jill’s friend’s email. Write him and tell him what you think. He should be sued for slander.
    He also is a self proclaimed activist supposedly helping the disenfranshised of New York. Really??? Is he aware that his bud Jill besmirched the gentlemen fundraisers of the Hamptons?…and then banned them from an event they’ve done for years? These event planner by the way do AMFAR, AIDS…ETC.
    The filed suit again the PIG.


    • sbh says:

      I wonder if he is one of the “fakers” that reviewed Jill’s book and said it was the best, five star piece of exquisite American writing, right up there with Hemingway, Twain, and Harper Lee.

  108. otaypanky says:

    London quote:
    ‘I still try to use my voice to assist in providing exposure and promotion to organizations in my hometown that do not always gain the spotlight in the major media”
    My Email: Note, he is an attorney. Write your truth but no more.

    Really? Like your friend Jill Zarin? Do you know how she hijacked the Hamptons Charity event of the year and humiliated dedicated fundraisers?

    Are you ready to retract what you have written? If not, then you obviously did not watch this season. She just took you down with her.

    • jackterrier says:

      What did JillZarin do to humiliate fundraisers? I need to know!!! 🙂
      I thought I knew everything this fool does, but this isn’t ringing any bells!

      • Had Enough! says:

        I don’t know about humiliation, but abuse:


        The Hampton’s season is only halfway there and “socialite” wanna-be Jill Zarin of Real Housewives fame (or maybe its infamy) is allegedly burning bridges faster than Sherman when he marched on Atlanta. Stories keep surfacing about her Bridezilla gimme, gimme approach and rudeness to locals and service people. But one story takes the cake. Zarin who is co-chairing the 2nd annual Help for Orphans gala has quickly allegedly muscled out of the way not only the organization’s founder Sarah Ehrlich but her co-chairs and “Housewives “co-stars”– including Countess LuAnn de Lesseps and Bethenny Frankel – in her desperate bid for attention. Last week well informed sources alleged, she had Bravo TV producers lure the event’s publicists to the event site for a so-called walk through to discuss where food tables, bars and camera crews would be placed. Instead the unwitting PR pros with 10x the credits of this erstwhile star were brought into an upstairs room where three cameras were set up. Zarin and Ehrlich then conducted an inquisition that quickly became a vicious tirade from Zarin of the,” Do you know who I am” type deigned to humiliate and embarr them on camera.When one of the publicists asked for the cameras to be turned off, the crew continued filming and he exited but not before Zarin told him, “You are dis-invited to my party which anyone, who is anyone in the Hampton’s, is coming to”. Then Zarin kept pummeling his partner verbally like a fishwife for another 15 minutes with the cameras rolling. Turns out she was looking to build up some steam for the barely watched show by trying to show how powerful a force she is on the social scene. Not. Truth was the guys were turned down by a lot of their tony pals who didn’t want to be ociated with the cause by being on the committee with the domestic diva.I tried to get a quote from the PR guys who have an impeccable record reaping the likes of Harry Winston, AmFar and hundreds of charity events while she was still schlepping fabric on Seventh Avenue. But being the gents they are, they would only say how disappointed they were that a fine cause devoted to building orphanages and schools for African children orphaned by AIDS should become a vehicle for someone’s personal fame game.Word from the inside of Nova’s Ark in Bridgehampton where the event is to take place is that the owners of the property were “appalled” that this happened on their property. “This doesn’t happen in the Hampton’s especially for a charity fundraiser”, they were heard to say. They are also fed up with Zarin’s demands. What started out as a simple tail party is now taking on the trappings of a Vegas style TV expo with Zarin demanding screens set up so that loops of ‘Real Housewives” could be run throughout the party – showing her of course. By the way, for her private party at home to which she “disinvited” her PR team, she allegedly hired three photo agencies to cover her and her “famous” guests. Did you see any pictures?

        Editors Note: If your at Polo this weekend, please come by and say hello and explain to us why you are so mean to such good people. On another note, I also hear the publicists have consulted a lawyer and there will be a demand not to air the footage, and possible lawsuits.

      • Ellabean says:

        Me too – otay – what did Jill do at this fundraiser ? I’m dying to know !

  109. Kelly Jelly Beansomeone says:

    Just a thought I had after looking through the bonus beach pictures from the Virgin Islands Vacation. In many of them, Alex is wearing a retro one-piece featuring the face of a smoky 1920’s Ziegfield follies girl (or something like that) on the front.

    I wonder if Kelly, having looked at that face for a whole day, at some point, transposed it or merged it with Alex’s face. That would explain the “kabuki/vampire” comment.

    Anyone else see the suit I’m talking about?

  110. anniieee says:

    Great article… notice the one part that I copied… but then read the one comment and see who wrote it….lol


    But fans shouldn’t judge Bensimon based on this one episode. “This is me being a Housewife on a television show,” she says. “This is not me in my real life.”

    No in private Kelly is even crazier, but she only likes to share that part of herself with people that don’t have an axe to grind with her in public. At least not a very sharp axe.

    Source: Huffington Post

    • morning says:

      Well, apparently just a week ago he still thinks Jill is a “rare exception” to not having class. Yeah, right, Jill’s the classy one.

    • Olivia says:

      Loved the comment posted by Christopher London in response to this article:

      1. Christopher London on May 24th, 2010 at 3:02 pm:

      Andy Cohen, the Executive Producer, behind the rise of these Bravo Reality TV Shows is truly Society’s Shit Salesman. While I think he should take Mazel of the week and shove it up his proverbial ass, he has capitalized on the disintegration of our culture and each week helps take it and these women to all new lows. Nevertheless, you have to give the douchebag credit for getting these women to literally enter WWF Match on Weekly Television to destroy their off screen lives and their standing in Society. With a rare exception, most of these women literally have no class whatsoever.


      • otaypanky says:

        Like the first article I posted…He is covering Jill’s Ass. This is now her story.
        Unfortunatley Chris, Jill was NEVER a part of New York Society. She had no standing to destroy.

        • anniieee says:

          Wonder if he is an attorney for Jill’s PR firm..or Zarin Fabrics

          • otaypanky says:

            Don’t know…But, he’s an attorney and has to know that some of what he wrote is suitable.
            I emailed this guy and posted to his last article. I think people should post like crazy there. The comments will probably sit for awhile. I pasted Lynn’s blog there but it got rejected, so I left enough of a tell tale sign of an address and it posted.

  111. JillousyHater says:

    That Chris London article is beyond reprehensible and the amount of ass kissing to “Princess Jill” just made me want to puke. Calling Betheny’s marriage a sham and her husband nothing more then a “cover” to just appear to be a legitimate NY housewife laughable…..”who finally found Richard Simmons little brother as a cover husband.” How was this stuff allowed to be printed? Yes, Jill’s filthy hands are all over this one……can this be added to the the list of reasons why Jill is a disgusting person?

  112. Katiecoo says:

    Good morning!

    Have you guys seen this blog (I like this writer–apologize if this has already been posted). She’s lobbying for a Sonja only spinoff “Sonja in the City”. Now THAT would be fun. Jill will NEVER embrace Sonja, for some many reasons…not the least of which Sonja doesn’t give a rat’s ass about her.


    • otaypanky says:

      Jill could never, will never fit into Sonja’s world.

      Why were Jill, Kelly and Jen not at Sonja’s Art Fundraiser?

    • Morgaine Swann says:

      Sonja never says anything bad about Jill because she doesn’t know her and if Jill was anybody important, she would. Sonja is REAL NY society. Jill is just a wannabe. Sonja doesn’t even care enough about Jill to look down on her, and it’s cracking me up.

  113. Kokuanani says:

    Yesterday I was watching a clip from a link that someone posted here — to the Today show, with Hoda & Kathie Lee talking about Bethenny & Bryn.

    Hoda said that she had been to the hospital and held Bryn, and was describing how tiny she was. It occurred to me how COMPLETELY PISSED OFF Jill must have been to see that clip, thinking, no doubt, “that could have been ME. I could have been the one to get in the press about seeing Bethenny’s baby, and told the tales about how small and sweet she was.”

    PS – if this comes out in “regular” type, it’s because I’m blockquoting the entire thing. I have not had any trouble with “hanging comments.”

    • Katiecoo says:

      I can also only imagine how Jill feels seeing that Summer promo on Bravo withOUT her on it…but Bethenny yuckin it up poolside with the other “stars”.

  114. Squirrels says:

    Oh give Kellamity a break – after all, she did hand out 40K condoms to all those broke folk. I heard one guy reply to her, “Wow! You want to help me use this condom? Thanks for the offer Babe, but I’m running late. How ’bout I just put my dick in the mail?”

  115. otaypanky says:

    Sent both articles to Andy. ‘Nuff said.

  116. otaypanky says:

    LYNN please, I have dangling messages all morning now.

  117. Jenni says:

    @Lynn, I have a great new banner for you. Please email me so I can send it to you!

  118. otaypanky says:

    I do believe christopher london needs to feel the heat. I’ve emailed him and posted to his article. I also forwarded the articles to Andy. Now that Jill is after Andy’s career, wonder how funny he’ll find it!

  119. cusi77 says:

    My comment to Bethenny got posted in Bravo!

    “Jill said at the reunion in Season 2 that you will have everything “but not at the same time”… How far from the truth!

    You now have everything you wished to. You have worked hard and you deserved it!

    Congratulations on your marriage, your beautiful Daughter, your own program and true friends”.

    Close to that… I do not know how to copy, paste, etc.

  120. coocoopuffs78 says:

    I just went to Christopher London’s website…NOW WHAT IN THE HELL IS UP WITH HIS HAIR?! It almost looks like his hair piece is off center. Am I the only one seeing this?

  121. ElleNYC says:

    What type of mother showcases herself at the birthday party of her teenage daughter? Jill Zarin is a selfish, narcissistic person, and she had to make herself the center of attention and looked ridiculous doing it: a fifty year old woman doing a solo skating performance wearing a too tight baby pink outfit at her daughter’s birthday party. Do I have the facts wrong? This was funny and painful to watch.

    • Had Enough! says:

      It wasn’t Ally’s birthday. It was the Zarin holiday party.

      But Jill *would* be the type of mother to showcase herself at her daughter’s birthday party.

    • Melanie says:

      Whatever the occasion was, the bottom line is that it was ludicrous, ridiculous, laughable, for Jill to put on her skating costume at every chance she gets. She tried to skate at a charity event and got in the way of professional skaters practicing, so she threw a party at a skating rink for herself to show off her skating costume. Why hasn’t Andy Cohen asked her about her strange need to show herself skating like a 15 year old?

  122. TLM says:

    Am I the only one going crazy that the Preview Clip called “Next on Episode 14: Reconciliation?” is instead a video of Jill’s arrival at Presidio del Mar? It has a thumbnail pic of Jill and B in a restaurant but THAT IS NOT THE CLIP SHOWN. I have twittered Andy at Bravo and posted on Twitter #realhousewives, but the wrong clip is still there. Are they trying to torment the viewers??? All the other clips are correct. This was the only one I cared about, though.

    • Had Enough! says:

      I’m with you, TLM. The Bravo website has always been a mess but it has improved a bit over time. But they still make mistakes like this and no one bothers to check/correct it. As someone guessed last week, wrt the posting of comments on the blog, they probably have a bunch of unpaid or poorly paid interns who want to break into showbiz and who just don’t realize that doing a good job does matter, even in a crappy internship.

  123. lillybee says:

    Jill, Jill, Jill, how the mighty have fallen.

    • otaypanky says:

      london, london, london…how we have fallen. email andy with links to the articles. I have a feeling we will see more of what we did not see during the reunion episodes.

  124. A former Jill fan says:

    otaypanky says:
    May 30, 2010 at 11:53 am
    Jill could never, will never fit into Sonja’s world.
    Why were Jill, Kelly and Jen not at Sonja’s Art Fundraiser?


    Oh my gosh! I can’t believe we didn’t take note of that (or did anyone post that before now?)!

    • otaypanky says:

      No, no one ever posted it before. but someone else will own it.

    • Melanie says:

      They weren’t there because at that time, Jill was still doing Social Bullying and Social sabotage and telling people not to go to events that Bethanny and Alex were invited to. Later in the season, her people began telling her not to do that anymore, because it was looking really bad for her. That is why, in the last episode, after she had some PR coaching for her poor book sales, she said, “I’m a big girl, I can be at the same place where Alex is.” But then she just ignored Alex as you saw, gave her the fake half smile bit and waved her off like a bug. Because she is such a “big girl” now.

  125. otaypanky says:

    anniileee. it would be nice if when you post follow ups to breaking news, you acknowedged the original poster.
    Don’t you think?
    I have pretty much continually posted new threads. Watched as others owned it and never said a thing.

    • anniieee says:

      so sorry… I thought commenting under you about the topic was giving you ownership.. i will be much more cautious in the future..actually…reading how pissed off you seem…I won’t comment anymore to you. My apologies.

  126. jenni says:

    Here is the banner I would like to give to Lynn to use…. What do you all think?


  127. Kelly Jelly Beansomeone says:

    I really really really hope that Ramona didn’t go and get breast implants. She looked so transcendent this season. Her body is perfect. Same with Gretchen. DON’T DO IT! You guys look awesome. Don’t become part of the plastic herd.

    *I say this because someone posted a before and after picture of her somewhere earlier and it looks as if she may have a much larger chest.

  128. Jenni says:

    @Lynn, my that was fast, so proud you like it! Now just have to figure out how to delete that temp page I put it on….

  129. SunshineNYC says:

    I was sharing some thoughts about Ramona with a friend that I want to share here. I have to say, I do like Ramona this season, mostly I think b/c of her friendships with Bethenny and Alex. But my confusion is how these women let go of the things she’s said to them?? Especially when you consider how much they hold onto things the others have said.

    Blasting Bethenny on the bridge about her not having any friends and how she’ll probably lose Jason too.
    All the comments she’s made about Alex (and Simon) the past 2 seasons.
    Saying (on speakerphone) that Luann sleeps around and did so while married.
    Asking Kelly about her lopsided breasts at the dinner party and calling her brain dead.
    All the comments she’s made about Jill (i.e. self absorbed, attention whore).

    How does she get people to just overlook these comments and forgive her? I don’t disagree w/some of these comments (like towards Jill & Kelly) but damn, I don’t think I’d still be her friend. Luann for example has harbored resentment towards Bethenny for a “snake” comment but hasn’t really said anything to Ramona about basically calling her a whore. Huh? Confused.

  130. A former Jill fan says:

    Is there a troll here?

  131. LynnNChicago says:

    Please post comments at the most recent blog site. Thanks!

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  133. Love to Hate says:

    Hi, I recently discovered RHONY and I’m obsessed with it. Such reality fun. I think the people that we love to hate, like Jill, make for the most entertaining TV. I would hate for her to leave the show for that reason. Love to hate her if you catch my drift. I feel the same way about Heidi and Spencer on The Hills. They make it entertaining. I also love The Villians on Survivor. So let’s keep trashing her cuz it is such good fun but let’s keep her on the show. Nice people are boring.

  134. just sayin" says:

    Okay so I don’t get it and maybe you guys can explain? I watched RHNJ (marathon) and I don’t get it? The whole Danielle thing comes across as totally over blown to me. I get that she is neurotic and at times inappropriate but hello… so are the others…..I read the blogs about the “crazy” and was expecting something big. I got dance lessons, modeling and ????? I mean I get it she is the root of all evil…lost me. I will most likely never watch this show again but just expected her to be so much more…crazier than she was or for them to be above it all…I just don’t get the controversy. I know you watch a different part of the franchise but the thread seems to be in the know. Please educate e as to what I am missing? I am not liking this Caroline person…self-righteous is my name really who the hell is she?

  135. adamay411 says:

    Kelly repeats (sort of) things she has heard. Is it possible that at some time Bethenny sarcastically said, “Yeah right Kelly, I went to the press so I could wreck your life”? In Kelly’s twisted mind she does not get sarcasm.

    • Melanie says:

      I agree that not one of the Housewives have stated the obvious: That Kelly has no comprehension of sarcasm or humor, and that she cannot follow a logical conversation. She just spews out statements with her lower teeth hanging out, and then cannot listen or hear or comprehend any responses to her statements.

      I see in previews that the Housewives are going to say to Bethanny that talking back to Kelly is off limits…WHAT!!? So Kelly can just spew illogical statements around without anyone challenging her? That is nonsense!

      I also am upset that the clearest example of Kelly’s inability to listen will not be shown in the reunion show, the episode of her not being able to listen to her daughter tell her how to make pancakes, and how she kept ignoring her poor daughter and kept burning the pancakes. It was a clear example of her inability to listen and comprehend even simple information.

  136. sophie says:

    I am a nice as well as mildly sadistic person. If a stranger or non-sibling falls, I worry that they’re hurt.

    If one of my siblings eats it….I laugh my rear end off first, then ask if they’re okay. They do this to me too. Please understand, this only happens when you can tell by the fall that it’s not serious, only seriously embarrassing. Most of them are extremely memorable, and we enjoy reminiscing about these falls over the decades.

    I have many sisters….5 of them. 4 I really enjoy, 1 I cannot abide because she’s a totally mental biotch. She’s Kelly and Jill in the same person. If you think those two are bad on their own, put them in the same body….it’s like there’s ten of each of them in the same small room.

    When Jill ate it on the ice, I laughed my @$$ off. It was like watching that particular sister do it. Pure, unadulterated enjoyment. I’ve watched it several times, and it never gets dull.

    Please Bravo…start showing more of these women tripping and/or falling. The way they drink, you know it’s happening. And I want to see it.

  137. Guessing says:

    Turn the italics off?

  138. oopsy says:

    It’s my first time to comment here and I have to say I love this place! This may seem a little off topic but I wanted to share my favorite reason for hating Jill Zarin. The whole screaming thing, “Bobby put a roof over your head and food in your mouth!”
    Huh??? What?! Wasn’t Bethenny INVITED to visit in the Hamptons? Wasn’t she a guest? (probably so Jill could get a free chef! We did see Bethenny preparing food while she talked to Gloria.) Bethenny lives not far from Jill in an upscale neighborhood and is a successful chef, she caters high-end events and I believe her book was finished, (don’t know if it was published yet, but still) Jill makes it seem like B was a pitiful homeless waif in need of a hand! I have to hate some one who would offer hospitality and then act like it was a huge favor. Sorry to rant but DAMN I hate her! Oh yeah, one more thing. Bethenny was so nice to Kelly once she realized K wasn’t all there on the island yet Kelly’s good friends Jill and Luanne mocked her at lunch even though they KNEW Kelly had a problem, remember L’s comment “that’s why you don’t have girlfriends” and Jill saying, “what, did you think they would steal your jelly beans?” (snicker snicker) What kind of person does something like that? Aaarrgg!!! Get rid of her!

  139. CRH216 says:

    OMG you have to see this!

    I was kind of indifferent to Teresa, but man she’s got some nerve with what she says here! She completely slams Bethenny, not for her own experiences with her mind you, but on what other people are supposedly telling her! I personally think she’s FOS! I think she’s just trying to insert herself in some drama since RHONJ has been mind-numbing boring this year. What a media whore!


  140. Melanie says:

    Dear LynnNChicago:

    You bring up a point that has never been addressed. the outright complete lies of Jill Zarin that Andy has never asked Jill about. WHY has Jill never been pinned down on these lies?

    Why has Jill never been made to explain how she was furious at Ramona at the party for not texting Jill immediately when she heard Bethanny’s father died, Jill said in tears,” how could you not have told me this afternoon, I needed to know!!”, But then it turned out that Alex came into the Party and said that Jill texted her that afternoon to say that Bethanny’s father died (that was why Alex was angry)-SO SHE KNEW! So why did she run into the closet crying that she didn’t know Bethanny’s father had died because Ramona never told her??? Nothing about Jill makes sense. WHY hasn’t Andy asked about this?? Since she knew that Bethanny’s father was sick (ALEX HAD TOLD HER IN A PREVIOUS EPISODE ON CAMERA), and she knew that Bethanny’s father had died (Jill had texted Alex about it that afternoon of the party, which had made Alex angry) WHY did Jill insist that she: 1. didn’t know B.’s father was sick and 2. Told Ramona in tears that Ramona should have told her Bethanny’s father had died when Jill herself had texted Alex about it earlier that day. SO SHE HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO CALL BETHANNY ABOUT HER FATHER’S DEATH YET SHE DIDN’T, WHICH SHOWS SHE LIED WHEN SHE CRIED TO RAMONA THAT SHE WISHES SHE HAD KNOWN.

    So why then didn’t Jill, with all that info, CALL Bethanny?

    And also, it was not once that Bethanny tried to apologize, it was at least THREE times

    B. tried many times to talk, at least 3 times that was shown, and Jill shut her down every single time, and then she says she was “ambushed” and so that was why she never talked things over with B.???? And that she didn’t have her Notes??????? Who keeps notes on friends’ grievances- attention Andy Cohen why no question to Jill about this?! And so it was OK for Jill to “ambush” the girls at Ramona’s island vacation after not calling Ramona for 5 days? And it was OK for Jill to “ambush” Bethanny last season with Kelly for them to make up? And regarding Bethanny showing up at Ramona’s to talk to Jill for the supposed “ambush” (not), since when can Ramona not invite anyone she wants to HER OWN APARTMENT, including any Housewife?? Why does Jill feel that she can tell people who they can and can’t invite??! The whole first half of the season was about Jill telling people not to invite Bethanny and not to be friends with Bethanny because she, Queen Jill, was angry at her!!! Why hasn’t Andy addressed this with Jill, about her Social Bullying with Bethanny and Alex?!

    And also, Andy Cohen, why are you letting Jill and Luanne get away with saying that Kelly can never be challenged or called out on the outrageous comments she makes?

    Really Jill needs help with the truth and with human interaction, and anger management.

  141. KimB says:

    Is it me, or does those shoes Jill wore on the Reunion look like they should be sticking out from under the bravo house that fell on the Wicked Witch this season on RHONY? Maybe they(shoes) were her “bonus” for being such a “Witch”. Dunno but will be watching for the house to fall during the next two installments of RHONY reunion. Ding Dong the witch is dead, as the flying monkeys swirl in Kelly’s head, Ding Donnng the wicked with is deaaad!

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