I Hate Jill Zarin Final Post of June 7, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin    New Update    June 7, 2010

Funny, Bravo is currently running some episodes from Season two of the Real Housewives of New York.  We were talking about Bethenny and her being snarky.  In all honesty, I didn’t pay a whole lot of attention  to the “type” of snark that Bethenny used.

Seeing it now, Bethenny never really hurt anyone all that badly.  That is not to say she didn’t say some things that were mean, she made fun of Alex’s newly redecorated home.   So what?  She doesn’t share Alex’s style and doesn’t care for it.  She didn’t attack Alex as a person or Alex’s family.  She makes fun of herself almost as much as she makes fun of others.  It is meant to be a joke. 

She has most definitely changed!   When Luann confronted her at the Bachelor party about Bethenny calling Luann a snake, Bethenny was celebrating her engagement and maybe it was just to get Luann out of her face but she apologized.  I think it was sincere however, because Bethenny did interview that she did feel badly about the way that she said it, so I think she was truly sorry.  She may have meant the sentiment but wasn’t proud of her delivery.

As we watch Jill walking away from Alex time after time after time, we see Bethenny, who would have been justified to walk away from Jill, she held firm and talked to Jill at the Bachelor party, at lunch and again at Ramona’s wedding.   How would Jill feel if Bethenny just kept walking away from her and refusing to listen the way Jill does to Alex?

Like all of you I am really anxious for the reunion to air.  I believe the rumor is two people storm off and one person stomps their foot.  (lol at the stomping the foot)  We see in the previews that Jill storms out, but who do you think the other one is?  Personally I think that it is Kelly.  I also wonder if those who storm out are allowed to cool down and then return to the discussion. 

I think I mentioned it in an earlier blog but Simon told us that there would be a 2 part reunion PLUS a lost footage episode.  I’m not sure if he was speculating, but he seemed pretty sure to me. 

If you have time, please read a few of my friend’s blogs about the Housewives:

The Real(ly) Old Housewives of Manatee County


Absurd to Sublime


Reality Tea (not a friend, don’t know the person but always thorough blogs)


(new post with a quote from Teresa regarding her bankruptcy) 

Until next time……….

Previous blog in case you missed it:

I Hate Jill Zarin Monday Update June 7, 2010Posted on June 7, 2010 by LynnNChicago

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Monday Update               June 7, 2010

I think by now we’ve all seen Teresa Giudice’s attack on Bethenny that took place over the weekend, she has since gone back and deleted  all of her tweets regarding Bethenny but plenty of people know that those tweets are never really gone and so many people Re-tweeted them that they are still out there.  What is it with these Jersey girls constantly tweeting insanely then going back and deleting it?  You said it, own it!  It is getting really old! 

Teresa was criticizing Bethenny for being unhealthy because she had gone back to her pre-baby weight so quickly after giving birth she said Bethenny wasn’t “normal” and told her followers that Bethenny was trying to make people feel bad about themselves if they don’t lose weight as fast as Bethenny has done. 

Teresa criticized Bethenny for having a baby nanny.  Funny because that did come up when I was talking with Alex over the weekend, Alex admitted that Bethenny does have a nanny, however, Bethenny is breast feeding so she does still do the majority of the work and is getting up in the middle of the night to feed baby Bryn! 

Personally, I don’t think having a nanny is anything to be ashamed of, if you can afford it, why not?  Any new mother who can get help and get some rest is doing the best thing for their baby.  Teresa keeps claiming she does everything alone without help, however, she had a babysitter there in the scene when she was making sauce in the garage.  It was the “babysitter” who was asked if she was on her period since that is forbidden while making sauce.  What was a babysitter doing there before she even gave birth to her fourth child?  She apparently DOES need help with even three children!  A Nanny and a Babysitter is the same thing! 

Twitter went insane during Teresa’s tirade, many people were defending Bethenny and slamming Teresa, a few were backing Teresa but overall it was clear that most were disappointed in Teresa’s behavior.  Teresa then said she was going to go through and block everyone who used vulgar language (not surprising Teresa said, for Bethenny’s fans)  That is rich!  Teresa is saying Bethenny has a foul mouth? 

Dina actually posted in favor of Bethenny as well:

@DinaManzo I love my girl Teresa but Bethenny never attacked my charity. ??? Where did u get that from mama? I have no prob w her

For a change, Dina hasn’t deleted it. 

The very next morning, the article appeared about Teresa and her Juicy Joe filing bankruptcy.  I have seen the document filed in New Jersey and while I am no expert, it looks real to me.  Several people have said that for a minimal charge, the court papers that were filed are available on the internet.  I don’t know if laws vary from state to state regarding filing a legal action but I do know that they typically are a matter of public record, particularly for a Bankruptcy because you have to allow all creditors to come forward to claim what is owed to them by the person filing.  In this case, Teresa and Joe! 

I do not believe that Teresa knew that this was coming out in the press on Saturday morning, I think that if Teresa knew, she would have laid low on Friday instead of coming out with all the negative tweets about Bethenny. 

I don’t know what is up with all of these women bashing and slamming one another.  I know the history behind Bethenny and Teresa.  During season one of the NJ Housewives, Bethenny was a guest blogger on Bravotv.com and wasn’t exactly complimentary to Teresa to say the least.  Bethenny was being Bethenny as we saw her during season one and season two of RHONY, snarky and at times, mean.  I’m not too blinded by Bethenny to see that.  Teresa definitely had good reason to be upset.  If I recall, however, Jill was also guest blogging and wasn’t really kind to any of the ladies either and we don’t see Teresa attacking Jill.  I can see a lot of change in Bethenny, she is still snarky but she has lost most of the “mean” when it is unprovoked.  Her apology to Luann, befriending Alex and her empathy toward Kelly certainly have shown a change in Bethenny in my opinion

So why is Teresa still angry with Bethenny?  Well it didn’t end with the blogs.  When Teresa came out of the gate guest blogging for The Real Housewives of New York, with a blog titled, “Team Jill” the gloves came off!  Bethenny doesn’t use her Bravotv.com blog to go after Teresa, she does it in the press.  She has answered Teresa’s blogs blow by blow in press interviews.  There is a very distinct difference in the ladies styles.  Teresa’s blogs on Bravo’s site weren’t making any sense, particularly during the first 4 or 5 episodes.  Commenters were asking her if she was watching the same show as everyone else.   Teresa tried so hard to maintain her position on Team Jill until it got to the point where Teresa’s fans were beginning to question Teresa’s sanity and common sense even asking why she hated Bethenny so much.  There was also a lot of talk about Teresa losing out on book sales the same way Jill has done due to her absurd blogging and defending of Jill Zarin. 

Teresa continued to blog, finally admitting that Jill was not being nice…but without really siding with Bethenny altogether.   In another blog on TVWatch.com Teresa tells viewers, “I know you all love Bethenny but you don’t know her”.  Teresa goes on to say that she has been dealing with photographers and interviewers that have also dealt with Bethenny in the past.  Teresa claims that many of these people have told her how difficult Bethenny is to deal with and even calling her a bitch. 

A Quote from Teresa’s Blog:

“Wow, so after I hire security to protect me from Bethenny’s wrath (maybe Danielle’s feathered friend is still available?)”

Don’t worry Teresa, Bethenny doesn’t have mob connections, so while that is your typical mentality, no need to worry about extra security, besides you can’t afford it anyway. 

Some reporters and photographers have come forward to claim that they have no idea what Teresa is talking about and found Bethenny to be perfectly lovely to deal with. 

Bethenny fought back just this week in an article that I read but I cannot find, I hope that one of you will post it here for me, I tried but I can’t remember which site it was on and I’ve searched as long as I am willing to. 

Whether you like Teresa or not, I think she is being ridiculous!  What is she thinking?  One of her older blogs said that it is ok to like Her and like Bethenny, Teresa makes that very hard to do when she is constantly slamming Bethenny. 

Luann mentioned on Watch What Happens Live that all of the housewives should all stick together and support each other and when Alex said something similar on Saturday night, it clicked.  (you know, because I typically don’t listen to Luann)  It is true!  If one woman, in this case Bethenny, has a successful spin-off from RHONY, that opens the door for possibly more spin-offs.  If it fails, most likely there will be no further spin-offs, right?   Every housewife at every city should be praying for Bethenny’s success if they are smart!  Even if they don’t get their very own show, they could certainly have more opportunities with more successful shows on the air. 

Whether Teresa is having money problems or not, I feel she is out of line in attacking Bethenny when it comes to how she is raising her daughter.  Bethenny chooses to have a nanny, she can afford it and is doing what she feels is best for her child.  Teresa also has a babysitter who is shown on national television yet interviews that she has no help and does it alone.  (not to mention her mama who is always lurking in the background ) 

I know we don’t have a whole lot of Jersey fans here, I am looking forward to blogging about the reunion and Bethenny’s show.  I know the reunion show will provide plenty of drama to discuss.  The previews on Bravo’s web site for Bethenny’s show look good, it will be a refreshing change to have a dramady rather than just drama!  (Alex actually described Bethenny’s show as “falling on a banana peel” funny!)

Until next time…


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322 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Final Post of June 7, 2010

  1. LynnNChicago says:

    WTF? Is the problem today? Stop, seriously just stop all the arguing. I have had to start three blogs today in an attempt to stop all the arguing, I haven’t even had time to go back and delete all the crap I need to delete.

    Can everyone please take a deep breath. I have agreed to go in and delete any personal attacks or troll activity but I thought everyone agreed to not respond or react to the problem person.

    Because there are dozens of responses to the offending original post, I can only start a new blog. If there were only one offending post, I could easily delete it and move on.

    You will all need to trust me just a little bit that I will be there as soon as I can to delete. IE: The home address, etc. It is gone, I only needed a few minutes, I have to log into a different area and scroll to find these posts once I’m aware of them, by the time I get to them, 10 people have replied and gone off the deep end.

    I’m not starting another new blog today. Have a good night everyone!

  2. RileyKitty says:

    to whoever posted the youtube cartoon of RHoNY reunion 3!!! Thank you, that was hilarious. I needed a good laugh today

  3. TNBelle2 says:

    I must have missed a whole lot. What happened?

  4. GrnWave03 says:

    .I hope the 2nd one they are talking about that stormed off – isn’t the preview they showed on WWHL — With Ramona just getting up and walking off – to get air..
    (where Kelly Ripa later joked that sometimes a girls parts need some air)
    cause that’s not that eventful.


  5. Anitabee says:

    Still trying to catch up.

    Thank you Lynn, for putting up the additional blogs for avid readers like me. I was away from the computer until 7ish this evening.

  6. Margo Channing says:

    Lynnie, I truly think that people are reacting (whether they admit it or not) to the fact that this mess is almost over after the reunion of controlled bullshit, a mediator Andy, and of course a million sponsors…ugh right? You just had an amazing time and wanted to share all the joy and love and feeling good about good people. I must tell you, me and my Bravo girls, the ones that sit at the WRONG lunch table but have more fun, we have been prickly too. Don’t be upset with us, and ladies, I for one KNOW that my PMS effects my left side of brain matter, the creative side, and I get so freaking upset…I feel stifled and relegated. Lynn I know these lovely ladies and moi, did not mean to ruin your fantastic buzz with the Silex dinner and dish. Please try to get inside all of these chicks that have hated JILLZarin and had so much fun in a place so wonderful where we could just be ourselves, YOU DID THAT and we are grateful, but sometimes us grown women act bratty with each other cuz we know one of us here will understand. I hope this made sense and you know that YOU ARE APPRECIATED AND WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR GIVING US ALL A VOICE…In the words of one of my great board buddies: Thanks TOOTS!

    • anniieee says:

      Very well said!! Bravo…or Brava? oh well… said exactly what I was thinking. Thank you Lynn.

  7. CRH216 says:

    Hey there Lynn….Bethenny is on her way to Chicago right now.


  8. KatZ says:

    Lynn: I feel for you! “policing these women” must be difficult! lol! I love your blog…just started reading it recently, but for the most part, your thoughts & many of your follower’s comments are right on target & reflect what my friends/fans of RHONY are thinking. I enjoyed your blog about Alex & Simon’s visit to Chicago…They will be in Philadelphia on Friday & I can’t wait to go see them! They seem like genuine, down to earth folks. So excited to meet them in person! In the meantime, I wish you many cartwheels, gummy bears, unicorns & “satchels of gold”! And I just gotta say…Go FLYERS!!!!!

  9. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    Hi Lynn,

    I hope you have a wonderful night. Thank you for giving all of us a wonderful place to meet and greet. We discuss, disagree and agree. If some act like mom is gone, and act a fool…”fix it” when you get home!

    Is anyone watching the BankruptCavewoman tonight?

  10. Olivia says:

    Lynn, you asked what happened and it has become evident that the site you established in the name of having “fun” is becoming a sounding board for a blogger who just cannot stand being challenged, or addressed, unless it is in full compliance with his/her comments.

    When a blogger resorts to telling another blogger to STFU, refers to someone posting as a “troll”, or calls them fucking morons, then the purpose of this blog has been defeated.

    Instead of having a safe haven to come and share impressions about a series and its cast members, the blogger seems to lay in wait hoping for the opportunity to strike back at a difference of opinion which is far from civil. The tone is harsh and the same stuff if drudged up over and over until that blogger wears the site down with unflattering comments.

    This, I was led to believe,was not your intention as you invited us on to share our thoughts. These outbursts have happened more than once with the same results. A blogger, or perhaps more than one, is singled out and followed throughout the thread having each of their comments challenged for no apparent reason other than to satisfy the blogger who feels “unappreciated”.

    For what it is worth, some of us may just take our marbles and go home since no one is interested in being told to STFU or called a fucking moron or a troll simply for stating an opinion. This is not group therapy.

    It is difficult to equate the bad energy that has emanated with the simple fact that this blog is nothing more than a review of a reality tv show and not a political forum where the well being of the nation is at stake.

    • Jillousyness says:

      Olivia ~ I think I’m developing a blog-reading crush on you! You express yourself so well and so rationally that it’s always nice to read what you post. You also say a lot of things I think but can’t seem to come up with the right way to say them.

    • mia says:

      I agree

    • TNBelle2 says:

      Thank you Olivia. I guess I am somewhat ignorant. I read the blog read the comments. Write my opinion then I am out. I do not go back and re-read. So if someone insults me I have no clue. So the joke is on them because I always believe in moving forward not back wards. WOW!! I feel like a whole war has happened and I have missed it. I guess sometimes that makes the quote a little true “ignorance can be blissful” I guess I have been blissed. LOL. I love Lynn’s Blog and always look forward to reading them. To loosely quote a criminal “can’t we all just get along”. I am out. Lynn do your THANG lady and keep on blogging.

    • Cleo's Mommy says:

      Except the person who Lynn slammed down today was not the one who said STFU or called anyone a troll or a moron. It was someone who was attacked by those people, namely me.

      Every post I made on that long thread today was in direct response to a question asked of me or a comment made about me. I did not attack, insult or say a mean thing about anybody. I was not like a dog with a bone. I was responding to questions directed at me by people who then turned around attacked me for answering their questions.

      I’ll cop to being snarky and sarcastic at times. But that is the sum total of my sins.

      I’m beginning to think this place is beginning to reflect RHONY a bit too much. The people on team Lynn can do or say whatever they want even when they blatantly and flagrantly break the rules of attacking others, and yet someone who is not on the team is labeled as an attacker – and if I understand Lynn she’s going to delete my friggin’ posts.

      When you begin to become that which you hate most, perhaps it’s time to take a breath.

      • mia says:

        I hope Lynn will address this tomorrow. I hope you are wrong when you say this

        “I’m beginning to think this place is beginning to reflect RHONY a bit too much. The people on team Lynn can do or say whatever they want even when they blatantly and flagrantly break the rules of attacking others, and yet someone who is not on the team is labeled as an attacker – and if I understand Lynn she’s going to delete my friggin’ posts.”

        I fear you may be correct. We will have to wait and see.

      • mia says:

        Actually Cleo’s mommy… I think its time I bow out of this site. I thought “hate” was being used as a euphemism, but its literal. No mater what Lynn says (and rereading her post I don’t have much faith in her being fair towards you) some people on this site are radicalized, and its not cute or fun. There are plenty of other blogs out there that keep things lite.

      • Olivia says:

        I was not directing this at you.

    • KLAS says:

      Thank you thank you, thank you Olivia.

    • CarrieCinKY says:

      I have to agree with Jillousyness, Olivia expresses herself well!

      • Char12 says:

        Thank you Olivia.

        You people aren’t going to be happy until you get Lynn pissed off enough and shuts down her blog. Is that what you want?

        I’m so sorry Lynn that this has turned so bad today. Just know we appreciate you and hope they realize what they might lose if this keeps up. HUGS

    • Slynn says:

      Couldn’t agree with you more… I feel myself reading this blog less and less b/c of the inner blog drama which makes me sad because I love supporting Lynn. I agree there is one poster who has turned me off the most so thank you for putting this so eloquently.

    • Kat says:

      I’m sorry you feel this way.
      I really enjoyed your humorous posts.

      I do see a few people trying to make things very black and white. I don’t see Lynn doing that.

      Enjoy your margaritas, that does sound good.

  11. kokuanani says:

    Well said, Olivia.

  12. Anna says:

    FYI—Bankruptcy is controlled by federal law, and yes, all federal court filings are available online for $.08 per page. The bankruptcy is legit as are the papers.

  13. Quincy IL says:

    Can anyone guess what decade that glamour shot of Jill on her facebook page was taken? I’m guessing late 80’s because it sure doesn’t look like what she looked like last season.

  14. otaypanky says:

    I’m watching Joisey goils tonite.

  15. mia says:

    I hope I don’t upset people by saying this.. tee hee I probably will, but I think it is an interesting discussion. I’d really love to hear your thoughts!

    A few years ago, when I was an undergrad, I had a roommate that was/is one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever met (inside out). She and I did a little bit of modeling then, but we both decided it wasn’t for us. She developed some really severe body issues, and when we walked through the city we would have to change our routes based on the billboards. (for example she couldn’t walk past the Calvin Klein billboards on Houston) Because of this I became really involved in NOW ( the national organization of women) and their fight against the over sexualization of women in the media. So she and I wrote a letter to PETA about their “Id rather go naked then wear fur campaign”. We felt why fight for an ethical cause in an arguably unethical way? (We also wrote to many high fashion companies that we felt preyed into women’s insecurities)

    Bethenny has a beautiful body, and I recognize her right to give her face to an organization that she believes in. I don’t have issue with any of the beautiful women who have posed for this campaign. But does anyone else have an issue with the campaign strategy PETA has created?

    • anniieee says:

      I did until they used Chloe Kardasian..who is not the model “norm” and she looked very good. Wish it was better. Dang I am going to my HS reunion in a couple of weeks…and I keep telling myself–“at least we are all the same age.” tee hee… (yeah except for the 2nd wives)

      • CarrieCinKY says:

        That’s hilarious, anniieee! My HS reunion is next month, what year did you graduate?
        I did in ’00…

    • Amber...Real Housewife says:

      No. I believe PETA’s campaign is visual to the point. The beautiful women posing naked instead of wearing “real” fur. If you’ve ever been to a nude beach, you will quickly see, that most of the nudists are folks we really don’t want to see naked. Nudity, is not only for beautiful starlets, but for those who are confident with their bodies, regardeless if skinny, fat, short, tall, endowed, droopy, etc.

      Peta just chooses great models. But most of it’s members probably wear habits and mittens to bed.

      • mia says:

        Both you and anniieee have good points.

        I still find the ad campaign very sexual. As a south american part of me doesn’t care! But another part of this concerns me, seeing all the issues my friend has developed when she is actually part of the 1% that fits the standard. But I know body issues go much deeper then the media, and I agree nudity is for those that are confident.

  16. anniieee says:

    Just to put a different spin on all the stuff we have waded through today…as I sign off- I will leave you with a great quote from a incredible human being. Night all.. sweet dreams.

    “People are often illogical, unreasonable and self-centered; forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives; Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and true enemies; Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight; Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous; Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow; Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough; Give the world the best you’ve got anyway. You see in the final analysis it’s between you and God: It was never between you and them anyway.”
    – Mother Teresa

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      Love that!

      Here’s my favorite (I’m paraphrasing):

      A woman is like a tea bag — you never know how strong she is until she gets into hot water. Eleanor Roosevelt

  17. Adios Lunatic says:

    Lynn — you are an awesome “cat herder” which is typically a thankless job but clearly you have many people who are appreciative on this site. I very much enjoy reading your blogs and look forward to the distraction. You’re the best!

  18. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    Oh the humanity! it’s on!

  19. boston02127 says:

    She’s back:

  20. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    Gia the actress…T the stagemotherfu86er!
    Eye rolling 101

  21. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    Notice Chris didn’t call Danny out for the fag remark? Like Danny said the “Manzo’s are punks!”

    No. Don’t believe he should engage a nutbag like that Danny but it would’ve been interesting.

  22. ridicurhony says:


  23. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Lynn! Hello everybody! I love you all!

    Difficult to catch you… WOW! this is getting BIG!

    I do need a day off to read the entire comments!

    Gongratulatios Lynn!

  24. RileyKitty says:

    @cusi77- LOL I am a SAHM so I am home all day & can barely keep up so a day off may not help. Maybe a 2 week vaca 🙂

  25. ridicurhony says:

    ok, i have some technical questions about registering on here. Obviously I have registered, but I need to know what is meant by ‘public email address’ or phone number or anything else under ‘edit profile’. Does that mean anyone on here can click on my name or look up my profile and see my email address?Or in some way look up my email or other info? Sorry – I’m not that great at this dang stuff. Lucky I was able to manage the picture. ugh! Also, I’m not interested in all my privates hanging out, if you get my drift… not wanting to be identified by fam members on here.

    • Kat says:

      I don’t ever fill in profile information, especially a “public email address”.
      I’m not looking at the form so I am guessing that public email address is one you intend to be visible to the public if your profile is viewed.

      If you do fill in the profile questions you can answer tongue in cheek or make up answers.

      • ridicurhony says:

        yeah, I never did fill it out. I don’t on facebook or twitter either. Thanks for the reply.

  26. ridicurhony says:

    lol, meant my private INFO, not my privates.

  27. upperwestsidedude says:

    LOL! Gia is not booking because of her Jersey accent. I love it…

    • cc in Miami says:

      Say “coffee” – cawwwwfee.
      No, say “coffee” – cahhhhfee.

      That was funny!

    • Amber...Real Housewife says:

      you love it>>I can’t contain myself that she wants to keept it! LMAO

    • error 404 says:

      the most shocking thing about the scene is that no one mentioned Danielle once. I wasn’t emotionally prepared for a scene where they didn’t mention Danielle. I’d never seen one before.

      Usually it’s like:
      Agent “Gia has an accent”
      Teresa “That f@#$ing ho-bag Danielle!”
      Agent “What?’
      Teresa “She hates us! She’s ruining our lives.”
      Agent “Who?”
      Teresa “Danielle! Pay Attention! She out to get us. Now she’s ruining my Gia’s career!”

  28. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    to Ashley

    Fat arms = death threat

  29. lina says:

    Watching rhonj and I’m not sure who is worst Danielle or Kelly? Both women are beyond crazy.

  30. Jennifer says:

    Ashley is making me mad on RHONJ , like even her bf is saying drop it….. Ugh!!!!

    • Jennifer says:

      Oh also I not Danielle fan either ! And my guess is Dina leaves

    • cc in Miami says:

      Did you notice that when he told her that if she did something to Danielle’s house or car or her that she would get arrested that Ashley shrugged her shoulders as if to say “whatever…”?

  31. Princess Butter Bean says:

    Has anyone looked at the previews??? Okay….STUPID question! *smacks self in head*

    At the end of the video where Alex confronts Jill (I think that’s the one), Andy relays a question from a reader that basically says that Bethenny confronting Dipshit is like using an uzi to kill a fly (or something to that effect).

    Anyway, Lulu pops in and starts giving her opinion about Dipshit going on the VI trip. The camera goes to Dipshit and you see her rolling her eyes….BUT THEN…I swear, it looks like she’s starting to lose it. It looks like she’s starting to take deep breaths and gets teary-eyed. Of course, the scene stops then. I think the rest of that scene may show her going BSC. One can only hope.

    Perhaps she’ll follow the red head next to her.

    And let me reiterate, I hate Jill Zarin.

    • Char12 says:

      I noticed that too. Kelly put her head down and I swear she did look like she was about to cry. I don’t think she expected Luann to say something against her.

  32. RileyKitty says:

    Lynn I hope this is ok with you, if not please let me know.


  33. Capiche says:

    I seriously can’t leave this blog for no period of time. I get lost everytime I return. But found you again…ummm…watcing RHONJ for the first time in weeks so I’m a little lost. Why do the children have so many talking heads? And Ashley is calling an adult scum? Now I know why Danielle lampooned her in one of those earlier blogs. I feel quite sad for Danielle. She doesn’t know what it is to have a friend or take constructive criticism. And who is this Danny? Her boyfriend? Anyway, I don’t like this Ashley character. She is also a prime example as to why people should not put their children on the show. I respect kooky Dina’s decision to leave her daughter out so much more. This Ashley thinks she’s gonna fight the Manzo’s battles. Her head is as empty as her mom’s.

    • Amber...Real Housewife says:

      snark alert…

      Ashley is missing the two J’s, one actual and one phonetic,

      Job and Gym Pass

      • Capiche says:

        Snark away! and Ha! “she said I have fat arms..” Good Lord. Get this girl off the show! I am a little disturbed by all these kids having the talking heads like they’re the main characters. Who’s next? Gia? What is going on with this show??!!

    • Sue says:

      Danny is an ex-con friend who is there to “protect” Danielle from the scary, evil and mean Manzo’s/Laurita’s/Giudice’s. It’s ridiculous.

      Ashley is a VERY immature 18. Part of that is Jacqueline’s fault because she obviously has not had any kind of consequences for her actions.

      • Cleo's Mommy says:

        I agree that part of it is Jacqueline’s fault, but the other part is just that Ashely seems like a really shitty person.

        I mean what kind of person even thinks of sending a text message like that no matter how mad they are. That girl has some sever anger issues. She’s also mean and lazy.

        She seems to be more like Danielle than Jaqueline.

        • KLAS says:

          Right, one would think she’s Danielle’s daughter. Ashley may be a kid but legally she’s an adult and if she doesn’t grow up pretty quickly she’ll soon be facing serious adult consequences for her actions.

  34. TLM says:

    Watching the latest installment of the Real Stupid Housewives of NJ. So far we know that Teresa does not believe there’s such a thing as a NJ accent, yet she doesn’t think her daughter needs to lose it, even though an agent told her Gia has lost out on acting jobs because of it. Jacqueline thinks that “supposably” is a word, and Ashley is possibly a bigger moron than Teresa and her husband combined. The thing about Ashley that’s especially bizarre and infuriating is the ever-present smirk on her face regardless of the situation. I think it’s hilarious that she is somehow incensed by Danielle and the need to “protect her family” when Ashley has treated her mother like a doormat and cared about nothing but herself, then moved out because she didn’t like having a curfew. Danielle is still delusional and paranoid, and thinks she needs ex-felons to accompany her to all banquet facilities, restaurants, supermarkets and nail salons.

  35. error 404 says:

    I’m confused. If Danielle leaves “the Real Danielle Friends of NJ” what will the other people on the show talk about when she leaves? Nothing. It’s like:
    “Good Danielle”
    “Aw, Danielle day to you too honey”
    “Do you want coffee or Danielle”
    “Actually, I’m running Danielle to a meeting, I’ll just grab a bagel at the Danielle”
    “Ok, well don’t Danielle, you can’t afford another ticket”

    • Capiche says:

      ROFLMAO! And so true. Even the big family dinner at the end dissolved into Danielle. There were no scenes where Danielle is not mentioned. Even Danielle alone in her kitchen is talking about Danielle! Haha! I know Danielle is almost Kelly crazy but I am beginning to feel more sympathy for her. Is this Bravo’s intention?

  36. CarrieCinKY says:

    I wish that Ashley would be the bigger “woman” and just leave well enough alone.
    Engaging Danielle at this point isn’t going to work, there’s been too much said & done between all of them… and right now, as I sit and watch D and Dina talk to one another, it’s even MORE clear, neither one can be quiet and just listen to the other one speak!!! LOL

  37. TLM says:

    My guess is that Dina will leave the show. If Danielle left, the whole show would fall apart. What else would the Manzos talk about, the banquet dinners they are setting up for the local Kiwanis Club at The Brownstone?

    I think that leaving Lexi off the show was not Dina’s decision. I think her ex-husband refused to give his permission for his daughter to be on the show.

    • Capiche says:

      Then smart ex-husband.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Agreed – it has to be Dina leaving, she just isn’t into reality television.

      • MickeyMouth says:

        The logical person is Dina. SPOLIER From Dina’s blog ” I didn’t sign on for this, as a result of this show, a horrific person is now in my life who I just can’t seem to shake. I think I may have had enough. Watch what happens.”

  38. ridicurhony says:

    ok, caught 5 minutes again of this stupid show. Devil’s advocate -> why bother calling someone, asking them to meet you so you can tell them not to bother you anymore?

    • TLM says:

      Well, on the one hand it is more considerate having a face-to-face than sending an email or talking on the phone saying goodbye. I think Dina felt that trying to reject Danielle any other way would start another war. That being said, I think there is no way to talk to Danielle without her going insane if you say anything other than glowing things about Danielle.

      I think Dina was as respectful as she could be under the circumstances. It wasn’t like Kelly calling Bethenny to the Brass Monkey, purposefully showing up 1/2 hour late, and going off on Bethenny, saying she was up here and Bethenny was down there. In contrast, Dina never said anything about being better than anyone, but Danielle immediately accused Dina of thinking she was better than she is.

      • ridicurhony says:

        I don’t know. I don’t really think it’s more respectful of the person you want to DUMP. This is just my preference, but if you want to dump me, then just say so. No need for a special meeting about it so you can feel more considerate. There’s another war started again anyway. The person isn’t going to like it either way.

        I guess I think it would be smart of all these people to let sleeping dogs lie, but lol, it IS all about Danielle all the time. And yes, think Bravo scraped up a lot of that for this episode.

      • CarrieCinKY says:

        I agree, TLM. Dina held it together rather well, I really think so now, after reading her blog. Those “men” of Danielle’s were there watching… just imagine how THAT made Dina feel.
        Danielle disgusts me, I can’t stand her… I hope they change the storyline and quick…

      • CarrieCinKY says:

        I agree, TLM. Dina held it together rather well, I really think so now, after reading her blog. Those “men” of Danielle’s were there watching… just imagine how THAT made Dina feel.
        Danielle disgusts me, I can’t stand her… I hope they change the storyline and quick…

    • MickeyMouth says:

      Agreed, she should have sent her a text stating you know Danielle. .I’m just not that in to you and leave it at that.

      Actually I didn’t watch the show at all and I’m keeping up fine. Could it be because the STORY NEVER CHANGES! Ughhh. I actually turned off RHONJ during the restaurant scene where Danielle was accepting an invitation to fight with the Manzos again at a benefit for a sick child.

  39. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    Watching Dina is painful. She’s lonely and sad. Her attempts at being the Greek Chorus, not good. I feel she’s leaving.

    • TLM says:

      I feel like Dina doesn’t belong in this group at all. I saw her with her husband on that VH1 show and thought he was a total assh*** to her. Apparently she rarely even sees him. Her daughter is high school age and will be leaving the nest in not too much time, and she must be thinking about that. I think that Caroline and the rest of the family are on her nerves. I could picture Dina getting divorced and finding a new, more spiritual life elsewhere, possibly on the west coast. Or maybe the red streak in her hair and crystal bracelets will be the extent of her renewal (sorry, I know everyone is sick of that word).

  40. TLM says:

    Ashley sees nothing wrong in posting threats on Facebook? That’s great…she’ll soon be able to add having a criminal record to her being uneducated and jobless on her resume.

  41. desertgal66 says:

    I want to know why Danny was in the parking lot. Was he supposed to go in and assault Dina if Danielle called him on her little cell phone?

    • love the blog hate the hate says:

      Dina’s blog is up. She says there were “friends” in the bar too. No doubt she is leaving the show.

    • Amber...Real Housewife says:

      I think he and the Big Guy, were getting cozy remembering their time in the pen, big house, housgaw…jail. Pretty secluded huh?

  42. otaypanky says:

    jersey was a snooze fest.

    Dina is leaving…

    she’s done.

  43. Noreen54321 says:

    RHONJ is beyond stupid. I feel sorry for Jacqueline and the Ashley situation. I weep for our future if it is full of idiots like Ashley. She is mindless. I think her boyfriend shows good sense. I’m sure he will be dumping her soon.

    • morning says:

      Jill isn’t representative of her “group” and Ashley isn’t of hers either. The future is safe.

  44. desertgal66 says:

    I think all of this can be resolved easily.

    1. Cancel all the Housewives. (But not Bethenny’s show, which should include Ramoner, Alex, and Sonja. And if Sonja takes a gay lover, that’s fine.)
    2. Give Jill Zarin, Danielle Staub, Tamra Barney, and Kil Zolciak their own show, “The Bitches of No One Freaking Cares. A short show, like three episodes, and they have to remain in a closet together for the duration.
    3. Whoever is left standing at the end of the season gets to go home, get a real job, and STFU forever. No Facebook, no Twitter, no personal website.


    • Cleo's Mommy says:

      Or Jill, Kelly and Danielle can go on Celebrity Rehab. They’d all get to blame their craziness on addiction, get to be on TV and maybe even get some help through their counseling sessions.

      I’m not even kidding here. I think the only way any of them would go for help is if their was a camera involved.

  45. iceNfire says:

    RileyKitty – I made a mess on your blog, sorry I just can’t resist a blank page.

  46. kats2 says:

    Thanks you guys are both funny and a great time saver. I won’t have to deal with watching NJ. Sweet Dreams everyone!!!

  47. upperwestsidedude says:

    I hope this is the last season for the Jersey crew. How many more times can we watch people being subjected Danielle’s insanity. That is the only storyline they have going. I would however enjoy seeing Teresa downsize and eat crow but that won’t happen this season – perhaps the reunion maybe. I am anticipating something more interesting with the DC franchise. I’ve lived there so I am sure they will bring something different.

  48. desertgal66 says:

    Caroline shaves her face every day. That’s just…what the hell is she talking about? How hairy is she before she shaves?

    • boston02127 says:

      @desertgal66~~maybe she’s really a werewolf.

    • lillybee says:

      That is funny. The men in my life don’t need to shave everyday. My poodle probably should but that is a different issue.

    • morning says:

      I’m guess none of you are post-menopausal. Now that’s the first I’ve heard of a woman shaving but increased facial hair is one more “joy” of it.

  49. WindyCityWondering says:

    This show has never been easy to watch!
    Is Kim G a replacement housewife or just there so Danielle can have a dialog with another person? And is Ashley a housewifette now?
    Her behavior is beyond Kellyland! She actually lied to her mom about sending a text and then did a facebook post about a warrant for arrest………and Caroline is proud of her for defending the family???? Jersey is just to weird for me – give me NY!

    • TLM says:

      Good point about Kim G being a possible replacement …maybe for Dina? I still don’t think that would save this show. You’d have to also replace the rest of the cast. The Manzo storyline is beyond kaput. And hopefully viewers around the country are getting fatigued with the barrage of shows exploiting the bad taste and behavior of some Italian-Americans in central to northern NJ generally: Jerseylicious, Jersey Shore and Jersey Couture in addition to this show. It would be nice to show a different type of person in NJ, and that not everyone in the state are Soprano wannabes.

  50. iceNfire says:

    otay – I made a mess on your blog to, sorry I got the name wrong.

    This is fun, if your name is in color block me now. lol

  51. Capiche says:

    All right. Last post for the night. I trotted over to the Bravo website to read Dina’s blog. Why? I really don’t know. But it was all like “I’m so pissed…I didn’t sign up for this…Read Jacqueline’s blog…children with cancer…ladybugs…buy my jewelry…” Oy.
    What’s with all these explanations about Danielle? We all know Danielle is certifiable. We get it. You didn’t? Why did you sign up for another reality show with her? And quite honestly, she’s holding the show together. There were two new people with her today alone! All I ever see of the Manzo’s and Giudice’s are the same old family members and Bernard Kerik (now, that was creepy since I lived in NYC during the Giuliani reign). Ok. That’s it.

    (said in my best Jill voice) You know what, Real Housewives of New Jersey…I’m done. We’re DONE!

  52. anutha hata says:

    So I posted my transcripts http://www.njhousewives.blogspot.com . The only interesting thing for me was that someone is leaving 4-ever. I thought that Kim G’s hair & make-up looked a lot better tonight, and if I see that fur-vest on one more Housewife I may have to skin them all I’m so sick of it-did they share that thing or buy in bulk?
    I think I saw Kim G. AND Danny P. wearing it this week too.

  53. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lightbulb! Is Ashley getting paid to be on the show – is that how she can afford to move out without a job???

  54. RileyKitty says:

    Anyone else wondering how Danielle is “paying” for all this personal protection? Is she just paying Danny or the entire entourage? If she is paying the whole entourage, she might need knee pads, carpet burn is a bitch.

    • boston02127 says:

      @RileyKitty ~ She should just strap a mattress to her back.

    • MELANIE says:

      @Riley kitty, you are too funny!

    • Anitabee says:

      Wow…did you see the previews for next week’s show. Danielle does NOT look rusty working that pole.

      Maybe she pays them in lap dances. You can tell the woman has “skills’. I mean she did land herself a multimillionaire…

  55. KookADoodleDo says:

    “Danielle Staub: Ashley Holmes’ Text Messages, Face to Face with Dina Manzo”


  56. Olivia says:

    There is something seriously wrong with the entire cast of NJ.

    They are featuring a family who cannot pay their bills yet are seen spending money on agents and voice coaches for an 8 yr old kid with questionable talent.

    The Danielle storyline expired weeks ago. Someone needs to clue this dope into the fact that the Manzo family will never be inviting her to Easter Dinner or Christmas Eve festivities.

    Dina is just pathetic and there is nothing in her storyline of any interest. Her blog says it all: “buy my jewelry!”

    The Manzo brothers are now in the business of pushing the sauce. Did not see that one coming but why not. Theresa holds the patent on the “cookbook”, Dina on the jewelry line so that pretty much covers the product line so it is onto the sauce.

    Danny Pro is just plain ridiculous with his “made man” persona. Just too stupid for words to be included on a show where the only “danger” involved is being seen with him.

    Kim G looks and acts pretty much like that “ho bag” Kelly was referencing. Hey Kelly, look over here. The real thing!

    Ashley is just intolerable. The boyfriend looks like he is ready to bolt and her actions are reprehensible. Caroline saying that she “could understand” Ashley’s reaction because “she was protecting her family” are beyond dumb. Do any of these people have a working brain?

    The show is just awful. The storyline is fantasy. And Bravo has issued 15 weeks of this torture.

    And I am an idiot for watching it.

    • Shadowsnomore says:

      I agree with everything you said. And, I’m an idiot too.

    • Cleo's Mommy says:

      Dina’s husband and ex-husband appear to have working brains.

      The current one was smart enough to stay off TV after revealing himself to be a contender for prick of the century when they were on that “pretentious and ostentacious ridiculously expensive show”

      And the ex was smart enough to keep Lexi off TV.

      I think the rest of the cast have taken one average IQ and divvied the points up amongst them.

    • error 404 says:

      I disagree. Questionable talent? No question here, Gia’s only talent exists in her mother’s head. She only got as far as she did because a camera crew was following her.

    • lina says:

      she said he cheated a couple of times.. shouldnt have married him!!

    • Shadowsnomore says:

      Watching that just made me dislike all the people on RHONJ even more intense.
      I’m surprised that they all aren’t filing bankrupt.

    • Kat says:

      OT @Chickentales That” rug road” was wicked! I watched the video. I used to have a Susuki 185 enduro as a kid and I would have loved riding that. 😉

      • Chickentales says:

        It’s been two years and I am still not over it! lol

        But, I was a big baby about it. I’m going to do it again this winter and film it.

  57. Bravo fan says:

    Ashley said she is living with a friend but never says who it is. Tonight we see her sitting on the couch at her boyfriends mother’s house waiting for her boyfriend. I bet u anything she is living w/ this guy, maybe even at the mother’s house. The Manzo’s probably don’t want it out that their 18 y.o. daughter is living with a guy so they never say she is living with her boyfriend only a friend. This girl is headed for trouble u can just see it.

  58. joyce says:

    You are a very sick person to devote your life to “hate.” If someone gets hurt, you are partially to blame!

    • RileyKitty says:

      That makes absolutely no sense

      • joyce says:

        This isn’t a site called “hate?” People haven’t been personally threatened? It just take one sick person to go too far.

      • RileyKitty says:

        Have you read the blog or comments? No one has ever been threatened. This is a place we vent our dislike for Jill Zarin, anything wrong with that?

        • joyce says:

          If you feel so strongly about HATING a real person that you would go out of your way to defend it, have a nice life! I love Bethenny and Sonja, but this is tv….people who put themselves out there shouldn’t be hated and threatened.

  59. lillybee says:

    Thank you Lynne for putting this board up. I am sorry that some people do not respect the opinions of others and start name calling.

    That being said at least the sauce idea is original. Not a song (Danielle) or jewelry (Dina) or a cookbook(Theresa). I think that they should be more original in their famewhoring.

  60. lillybee says:

    Is it definite that someone is leaving this show next week?

    • RileyKitty says:

      I think that is why Kim G has been featured, if it is Dina (it only makes sense since she is so over everything) that leaves next week, I bet we have kim G in the intro in 2 weeks.

      • A former Jill fan says:

        Well, I had to lay down for a nap and left the tv on and awoke to the new show playing. I like that Kim G took up for Chris even though she got what he said last week wrong.

        Why does Bravo keep Danielle on here? She is just so paranoid. I don’t know why she thinks she’s so important that anyone would be interested in targeting her. What a joke!

        I wasn’t going to watch this show. LOL! And I didn’t most of it. It’s just dumb.

        If Dina and Caroline really don’t want anything to do with Danielle, they should quit the show because Danielle won’t leave, unless Bravo tosses her out. And it looks like Bravo is going to use Danielle centered drama to its fullest extent.

        Can’t wait for Bethenny’s show!

      • Sue says:

        I saw somewhere that one of Danielle’s friends, Brianna, will be joining. They gotta give Danielle someone because no one else will deal with her.

  61. lillybee says:

    If Dina leaves, I hope she leaves her cheating hubby and moves out of Dodge. California or Taos may be a better place for her.

  62. cc in Miami says:

    Danielle’s blog is up. When did Jacqueline punch out Caroline?

  63. Marie Laveau says:

    Hey Everybody!

    I’m usually a lurker, and I don’t comment very much. For the most part, I just sit back and observe and usually just reply (as opposed to initiating a new conversation) every now and then.

    But, right now, I need to vent a little. So, bear with me. I warn you in advance that I’m going to go on a bit of a rant.

    I watched RHONJ tonight, and I have to say that a couple of the Teresa scenes just infuriated me!! I know that’s surprising, considering how she wasn’t really featured that much in this episode. But I was infuriated just the same.

    Let me tell you why.

    First of all, I admit that I was kinda liking Teresa a bit. I couldn’t figure out why. I think I liked her devotion to family and to her husband. Now, she did piss me off when she, in her RHONYC blogs, seemed to be so biased against Bethenny (Don’t nobody talk shit about my girl, Bethenny!! LOVES me some Bethenny!!!). But, at one point, she seemed to have a brain and seemed to possess the ability to be fair. She called Jill out on some of her bad behavior after the “Bethenny on Speakerphone with Luann in the Room” incident. She congratulated Bethenny on the birth of Bryn. And other kinda decent things I can’t remember right now. So, because I am also fair, I figured I’d put that aside and give Teresa a chance and focus on her good points.

    But, then she came out of left field after the last episode of RHONYC and went on some unprovoked attack against Bethenny for what appeared to be no reason.

    Then, immediately, after that, we hear about the bankruptcy filing for $11 million in debt.


    $11 million dollars!!!!






    Like I said, let me vent.

    I’ve had to witness this woman and her extreme frivolous spending for children who are going to grow out of their clothes in the next 10 minutes (but, then, they can always hand them down to the next child, I suppose. So, that’s how I explained it away a little bit.); her HUGE home; her obvious pampering with getting the hair and the nails done constantly….

    And then, via this NY Post article regarding the bankruptcy filing, I have to hear about money spent on fertility treaments (when she’s got 3 healthy children already), etc., etc., etc. (and all kinds of other sh*t).

    And THEN, on tonight’s episode, I see how they are paying for her daughter to take acting lessons, and she again mentions how her daughter is also taking everything from guitar lessons to karate….

    And I want to (in the words of Fred Sanford)….not go KA-rate, but to go KA-RAZAY (crazy) on Teresa’s ass!!!!

    People like Teresa infuriate me, and any good will and respect I had for her as a Mother and a wife and just as a PERSON is now officially GONE.

    NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, ever GAVE me anything. All on my own, I worked my ass off (on a couple of occasions even working THREE — yes, THREE — jobs at a time) to get two degrees to be able to support myself without the help of anybody!!! I’ve even put off having a child because I want to be able to make a better life for a child than the life I had. Don’t get me wrong. I had wonderful parents, and I’ve been blessed in many ways. However, I’ve had to work hard for every single thing that I’ve gotten (and I didn’t want to do it by marrying someone for money either. I have had my opportunities in that regard, but it’s either about real love and compatibility for me…or it won’t happen). Because I want better for any child I choose to bring forth, I want to be able to afford to fully pay for a child’s education so they can start their “working life” with a “fresh start” (and NOT a fresh start from bankruptcy like Teresa mentioned today in various articles on teh web) and no debt (like debt from student loans, for example).

    The only real debt I have are my student loans, which I will bust my ass to pay off. And I deal with the stress of being an attorney (courtrooms and deadlines; dealing with having to basically argue — even when you’re being diplomatic about it — for a living; and dealing with other attorneys — those things are not always “picnics,” let me tell you) constantly. I clip my coupons. I spend wisely. I sacrifice. I drive a 2002 vehicle that I will CONTINUE to drive until it no longer moves (because, guess what? It’s still in good condition and gets me from point “A” to point “B”. Also, considering the fact that a car depreciates by 30% the MINUTE you drive it off the lot, spending all kinds of money for a luxury vehicle is, basically, well…..stupid. The only people who should buy luxury vehicles are those who have enough extra disposable income to be able to treat themselves. Otherwise, it’s just throwing money away).

    I could go on.

    But the point is…..

    When I think about how hard I work to honor my obligations and the sacrifices I’ve made (like the child thing, for instance), and I look at TRIFLING, DEADBEAT asses like Teresa and her husband….

    Well, I could scream!!!!

    And I could shake the sh*t out of Teresa’s ass!!!

    Because I, and many other law-abiding, tax-paying, hardworking, debt-honoring citizens are going to have to pay for, not only ourselves, but for HER and her family and for their (absolutely CRIMINAL and RIDICULOUS) $11 million worth of debt.

    Acting lessons??!!!!

    Guitar lessons????!!!!!


    How about sitting your children down around the table for a “lesson” while you have your checkbooks out paying some damned BILLS!!!!????

    How about teaching your children how the only thing you have in this life is your WORD (which includes the “word” you give when you give a credit card or incur a bill through financing)????

    How about focusing on your children’s damned educations as opposed to applauding them for strutting their asses down a catwalk and talking in sassy and disrespecful and “not so cute” ways??!!!

    How about going KA-RAZY over clearing up your debt as opposed to taking them to KA-RATE classes???!!!

    Again, I could frickin’ SCREAM!!!!

    Alright, thank you all for your time.

    I need a “drink or THREE” so I can calm down and go to bed (and have dreams of kicking Teresa’s ass — excuse me, I allow myself to let loose on this blog — up and down the courthouse steps and all over the courtroom of a federal courthouse for bankruptcy!!!).

    P.S. I have total sympathy and understanding for those who are forced to file bankruptcy for REAL reasons (medical bills; loss of a job due to a poor economy; etc.). That’s not EVEN what I’m talking about.

    Again, thanks again for allowing me to vent, you guys. I’m going to have my drinks before I go to bed.



    and TERESA…..






    They are truly disgusting people with very few redeeming qualities (but for the fact that they ARE children of God, I suppose. I’ll try to remember that the next time I watch the show and get this infuriated!).

    Sweet dreams, Everybody!!

    • RileyKitty says:

      Don’t hold back, Marie, tell us how you really feel LOL

      love the entire rant!!!

    • Adgirl says:

      Amen Sista. I really appreciate your hard work and dedication in securing your ability to take care of yourself.

      • Roslyn G says:

        Instead of Teresa and Joe robbing their creditors with a gun they robbed them with a pen. Loved the rant Marie and agree with everything you said. Instead of buying Teresa’s book (so she can spend it on her hair and nails) I will save my money and continue to live within my means.

    • Anitabee says:

      Marie LaVeau – I agree with you 100%!

    • CarrieCinKY says:

      @Marie L.
      LMAO!!! Oh, I couldn’t have said it better!!!! I FELT the same way you did about Teresa, and then she just had to start in on B… and it was OVER with me!
      I think Teresa was ignorant about the finances, she’s not the brightest crayon in the box, you know she didn’t have a clue what was going on in the bank acct.
      Well said… and I totally respect you for working your ass off.. we have that in common, I LOVE seeing someone who’s as passionate about that subject as me! : )

      • vilzvet says:

        Marie you posted this before midnight yesterday but this will still be POST OF THE DAY!

  64. lillybee says:

    I am confused. How does Theresa and Juicy fit into the Manzo family?

    • A former Jill fan says:

      Hi lillybee! Aren’t they friends of the family? No direct relation?

    • boston02127 says:

      Joe is Caroline’s brother.
      Jacqueline’s husband is Caroline’s other brother.
      Dina is Caroline’s sister.

      • morning says:

        No, don’t think Joe is a member of the family, hence the different last name than Jacq’s husband.

      • moneycanbuyyouass says:

        Don’t understand how you made this leap. Basing it on the Joe’s last name being Giudice and Chris’s last name being Laurita.

  65. anutha hata says:

    So I read Dina’s blog. What I really do not get is how Dina & Jackie both explained in detail how they had established some weird boundaries with Danielle.
    Lets see, they text and send gifts, Dina even says that she was sending “helpful” texts to Danielle to let her know when she was screwing-up!?…
    So why do THEY continue the contact?
    Maybe they thought they could shame her off television or out of the cast, but if Dina is the one who leaves forever, that is the ONLY thing about all of this that makes sense.
    Unless you own a business and can fire people that you don’t like, I think that you owe it to your employer to make an effort to be respectful of the other employees. That’s just my opinion, and I do know that sometimes there are good reasons, like if you are being harassed or annoyed somehow by another employee to make them want to leave, but the first thing that a normal person would do is try to avoid the person as much as possible.
    I guess I’m just saying that I wouldn’t appreciate people sending my children gifts and calling, texting me, but making it clear that I was so repugnant to them that they wanted NOTHING! to do with me???
    I can honestly say that I don’t think I’ve ever made a point to go out of my way to be sociable with someone that I didn’t want to associate with, and these women act like its perfectly normal.
    Maybe they were trying to negotiate boundaries that they could all live with & still work on the show together, but they did a bad job of it, and just assumed that because Danielle has a lot of unlikable qualities that the audience would enjoy seeing them all treat Danielle like “garbage”?

  66. A former Jill fan says:

    Jacqueline had punched Caroline in the arm, I think it was. it was on the reunion show. It was like the kind of punch you might give someone if they make a wisecrack, not a real fight type punch.

    That Danielle is certifiable.

    This new Jersey show is sort of annoying but I haven’t been watching it, just hear it in the background.

    • A former Jill fan says:

      it didn’t happen on the reunion show, someone brought it up (Caroline, Jac?) to use as an example that Jac doesn’t take orders from Caroline or agree with everything she says or something to that effect. I can’t remember exactly the comment Caroline made. Maybe something on child rearing?

    • A former Jill fan says:

      Here’s the punch from Caroline’s blog:

      First, Jacqueline and the PUNCH – true story. Jacqueline’s hormones were in a rage shortly after giving birth to CJ. I said it before and I’ll say it again: We are an extremely close family. When one calls, we all come running. It was an ugly day, an ugly time for all concerned. We are the type of family that addresses everything head on, no holds barred. We dealt with it, listened, understood, and apologized. All is forgiven, and quite frankly, forgotten. I will say it again – Jacqueline and I have a tremendous relationship. It is based on mutual respect and love. We are fine.

  67. Robin says:

    My Bud’s at TVGASM posted about you.


    • shantygal says:

      Hey Robin, I saw that too. I figured some of the peeps here were gasmii. I recognize good snark when I see it.

  68. jillian says:

    I love Bethenny!

    • A former Jill fan says:

      Bethenny’s show will be such a nice change from someone like jill zarin!

  69. RileyKitty says:

    @Kat & iceNfire, thanks for the “visit” tonight. It was fun 🙂

  70. otaypanky says:


  71. Adgirl says:

    Thanks for bringing this up Marie Laveau.
    As I have mentioned on earlier blogs of Lynn’s my family has been abused by people exactly like the Giudices and the Curtins.

    Obviously, they are FINANCIAL SOCIOPATHS.

    Does anyone believe that the Giudices or the Curtins spend every dinner together deciding how they will make things right with the creditors they have stiffed??

    Do they cry themselves to sleep worrying about the humiliation of their situation?

    Do they they have a plan on how to live within their means in the future and do they make this a family effort??


    These are terrible people to be on TV. More destructive than anything Danielle, Jill or Kelly can do because of the ripple effect. If my renter doesn’t pay me and squats in my house for 4 months do you think I will money to go to dinner??
    If I have a company that sold product to Juicy’s contruction business and I never got paid do you think I am going to hire more employees or lay off the ones I have?

    They are crooks.

    • katiecoo says:

      I worked with a gal a couple of years ago who’s husband didn’t work but galavanted from one slippery real estate deal to the next driving them right in to bankruptcy…then he proceeded to wait about 3 days before he went out and financed a BRAND NEW CAR (fresh start!) to the tune of about a 30% interest rate.

      Fresh start! Let’s go shopping!

      When was the 2k kids shopping spree? Pre or post bankruptcy? Makes the whole “paying in cash” thing more interesting doesn’t it? (I’m probably the 64th person to comment on this).

    • Quincy IL says:

      There are so many people like this out there. They only think of themselves. The creditors have bills to pay and when Teresa steals from them, they suffer.
      I hate Teresa now that I know she has been so greedy.

  72. katiecoo says:

    I am totally lost tonite talking to myself somewhere. Am I here?

  73. Jen says:

    Hi to anyone still on this late… I just found this Alex and Simon video. Sorry if it has already been posted but I couldn’t keep up with all the ‘wild’ commenting today!

    This must have been done in Chicago as they are wearing the clothes Lynn described. Alex does look great!


  74. otaypanky says:

    Read the Comments Section of this article. One long rant seems to come from JILL and another comes from A CHANDLER. Chandler is on fire over jill still.


    • Free Ginger (formerly known as wolverinedg) says:

      I would be too if some D-List wannabe set out to trash a reputation I had spent years building up as a book reviewer.

  75. kristy says:

    Be passionate about love and peace, not hate!

  76. A former Jill fan says:

    Thanks for the link otay! Sounds like typical jill and whether or not it is jill, it’s spot on for her type of mentality–if jill does any little thing for you, you owe her for the rest of your life! Pure narcissism and jealously. Nobody needs someone like that in their live.

    Playing the victim/sympathy card is all jill knows.

    • kokuanani says:

      If Jill is going to continue to post on other sites “defending herself” under her various “noms de plume,” she really ought to either a) get one or more of those 4 publicity folks she hired to do the writing; and/or b) takes some lessons from one or more of them about disguising her very noticeable writing “style” [i.e., bad grammar & misspelling].

  77. A former Jill fan says:

    Good night all! Pleasant dreams! 🙂

    • JZbitesGinger says:

      Goodnight friend. 8)

      • JZbitesGinger says:

        Full color straightjacket for Jill

        • Kat says:

          That was me proving you can change your color…
          but if you don’t change your email the color stays the same.
          I think you can change names but the color is the same unless you remember to change the email addy.

          • A former Jill fan says:

            I thought that was you Kat! LOL! Like the other nick–JZbitesGinger. Cute! 🙂

  78. molly says:

    “Get a hobby” about love and helping people, not hate!

  79. julie says:

    Stop hurting people with your words! Spread love, not hate! Rallying around hating someone is not good!

  80. Kat says:

    Thank you molly er julie, uhm jillian, i mean kristy and joyce

  81. otaypanky says:

    looks as though jizm zaaaaarin and her flying monkeys have invaded.

  82. MorgaineSwann says:

    Wow – you all have been here all evening? I kept checking the other post not knowing tis one was here. I blogged RHONJ here http://mytvfromatob.blogspot.com/

    I’m glad everybody seems to be getting along.

  83. MorgaineSwann says:

    BRAVO just showed an AWESOME commercial for the new season of TRUE BLOOD. That’s my real addiction. I’m psyched!

    • anniieee says:

      Just read your blog… couldn’t comment there…it sent me to sign in to wordpress. Great insight. Thanks.

  84. Smompy says:

    Lynn, the only thing I don’t get is why you would say that Bethenny was sometimes “mean” to Teresa in her blogs last season. When another poster recently declared that same thing (actually she used the word BRUTAL), I deliberately perused all of Bethenny’s RHoNJ blog entries from last year. I found many compliments, some snark, some humor and a small bit of justified (IMO) criticism, but I really didn’t see anything that would qualify as mean. I guess maybe that’s a subjective term though. Anyway, I’d previously copied every single comment written by Bethenny about Teresa from last season, so here they all are if anyone cares (sorry if it’s kinda long):

    “Teresa is cute and sweet, and like Jacqueline (minus the huge rack) she’s everyone’s friend.”

    “Even Teresa takes it to a modest stage mom level. Her daughter is gorgeous by the way.”

    “There’s a stage mom who doesn’t seem to have all that much going on besides children’s photo shoots and a home renovation, a sweet and passive mother who can’t discipline her daughter and wants to have children.”

    “Teresa: Ignorance is bliss. She is a sweet, happy, ditzy brunette with 3 pageant children who already have a massive penchant for shopping. As a child, I would rather put hot pennies on my eyes than be at a store, much less care about lip-gloss. These little ones will be picking out their own marble bathrooms by 18. To be fair, Gia seems to want to be an actress, but it seems like she’s just saying she wants attention.”

    “So everyone wants me to rip on Jersey a bit more. Truthfully, it speaks for itself. How can I beat up on Teresa and Jacqueline? They are simple girls who don’t seem like they could defend themselves. As far as the stage mom thing, I was half wrong. I’m sure Teresa created this precocious, pretty little girl with a set of luggage to rival that of J. Lo, but Gia seemed to be quite the little actress on her own. That scene where she carried her luggage, sorted through her jeans, answered her cell phone and said that everyone wants her now confirmed for me that she was an actress in the making.”

    “Teresa is a riot with enough clothes to fill up a dry cleaner. I am obsessive compulsive about only ever having carry-on luggage even on a week long trip, so Teresa’s weekend wardrobe gave me anxiety. The other girls are sweet in just calling her a Barbie doll. ”

    “She did need the implants, and I’m glad she didn’t go massive. She really does have a great figure. She is currently pregnant. I wonder if that was intentional. I would think she would have gotten implants after she had her third child. Congrats to her. She really does enjoy being a mother and adore her girls.”

    “Let’s talk about being sore from constant sex and how your husband is never not on top of you (even if you have stitches and are still under anesthesia), but we really shouldn’t discuss some antique scandalous book (the contents of which Danielle’s children already know) in front of the children. Huh?”

    (this last one refers to Teresa’s violent table throwing incident)

    “Teresa, in her hot dress with her nice new rack, really outdid herself here. The entire Housewives franchise loves to speak of class and lack thereof, and well this performance just speaks for itself. How proud her family must be.”

    That’s every last mention of Teresa from Bethenny’s blog. Maybe I’m missing something but with the exception of her disapproval of Teresa’s table tossing, it seems to me that Bethenny actually went pretty darn easy on Teresa.

  85. Quincy IL says:

    Like Dina, I’m done.

    I’m done with Bravo.

    I just can’t watch people hurting others anymore. Lynn, you are a great person…


  86. otaypanky says:

    Lynn..what’s your email address?

  87. MAMAZ says:

    Quincy – Don’t go, we love your insights.

  88. otaypanky says:

    New York Times publishes Jill Zarin’s Address: Authorities Called: Run Grey Lady, Run


    • upperwestsidedude says:

      What is interesting, you can look at the building on Google Maps via the street view so you get a sense of the neighborhood. Also, Bethenny’s old aprtment is just one block over from Jill’s (Jill E. 61st and Bethenny E. 62nd). They were a 5 minute walk from each other. I know Bethenny is so happy living downtown in TriBeca – a nice change for her.

      • otaypanky says:

        I live in Manhattan also dude. Midtown East.
        Bethenny will definitely thrive downtown.
        My sis lives in SoHo. She used to live UWS on West End and 80th.

      • otaypanky says:

        You know…another think…if you read the article, Jill’s wishlist is Central Park West…Those are all coop buildings and she would never get board approval in them.

        • upperwestsidedude says:

          You are absolutely right. Jill would never get into one those buildings. They will not give her the time of day. It’s not a matter of money but your background and who you know – those coop boards are VERY selective. She is a D-list celebrity at best and has no real accomplishments to speak of.

          • otaypanky says:

            That and also the fact that she’s a fame seeker buries her. These residents do not want cameras. That’s why when you read about what celebrities buy in Manhattan, it’s always condos…preferrably new construction that developers are eager to sell.

        • dee says:

          From Kelly’s blog dated June 2, 2010:
          “….but my favorites: BMW 635 csi, and 110 Land Rover DEFENDER will have to come in another lifetime unless they come out on the market with hybrid versions”.
          Made me wonder what where her dream cars. So I go and check it out. Turns out BMW 635CSi were made from 1978 to 1989, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_635CSi.
          And the 100 Land Rover Defender? Well those were actually called Land Rover 110 from 1983 to 1990. After that they were renamed Defenders, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender.

          • dee says:

            Big oops. I was not replying to anybody’s post. I don’t know what happened. This shit is cray-zay.

    • TLM says:

      That article was from over a year ago. I think she would do better to sell her furniture on Ebay and redo it back to the way it was before attempting to sell it — no one wants that psychotic apartment. Bethenny’s actual comment was that the apartment was “Versace…Liberace…La Cucarachee.”

      • otaypanky says:

        that’s her taste…she thinks it’s gorgeous. her place is a gut renovation for just about any buyer.

      • Dolce says:

        @TLM says: Bethenny’s actual comment was that the apartment was “Versace…Liberace…La Cucarachee.”

        OMG…love it, so clever and soooo true Bethenny. Only thing missing is those plastic covers some people used to put on their furniture and over the drapes. Don’t know if any of you have seen them…”I love Raymond’s” mom, Marie, has plastic slip covers on her sofa.

        • otaypanky says:

          her taste is gauche. i’ve witnessed people who bought gorgeous brand new construction and turned around and gutted the kitchen, baths and wood floors to do it the way they wanted. I mean..pick up great hardwood floors because they wanted a different wood.
          No one is buying an apartment with fish scales on the walls and her kitchen re do is cheap and awful.

          • upperwestsidedude says:

            You nailed it! Fish scales on the walls. LOL!

          • upperwestsidedude says:

            Jill’s kitchen looks very cheap. The walpaper on the cabinets is awful. Evidently money can’t be you class or taste.

          • desertgal66 says:

            The wallpaper on her cabinets…ugh, I just HATE that. And Jill thought it was so wonderful! The woman has NO taste.

            The ironic part is that Jill’s apartment was so much prettier BEFORE the remodel. She should have stuck with the decorator who did it the first time around.

  89. Kat says:

    I don’t know if this has been posted before, it is regarding salaries.

    • otaypanky says:

      good find Kat…I think that younger guy Steve released it and it’s on the next segment of “wives” if I can get thru another segment.

      • TLM says:

        I wonder if Danielle is still going to think Steve was the wonderful guy she kept saying he was after this. I doubt she’ll learn anything from it. Most likely she will sue him and Hustler and get a settlement, like every other celeb (I shudder to call her that) who has had a tape released without their consent. The really funny thing would be if the tape brings in almost no revenue. Pam Anderson or Kim Kardashian, she is not.

        • ImToula says:

          I read her blog this morning. It seems she too has recorded a song. A duet. I can’t believe it. Books,Porn ,and singing? I don’t know if my eyes and ears can take anymore of this.

          • MAMAZ says:

            The sex tape is actually old news. She did go to court to stop it’s release. I can’t remember what the judge decided.
            I don’t like Danielle but it’s despicable for a man to try amd sell a tape like that. I remember he made a comment about how he spent so much money on her he was just trying to get some of it back. He’s a sleazeball. No surprise that he’s a friend of Juicy Joe.

  90. Kat says:

    This probably has been posted before, it is a 5 minute interview w/ JZ during a book signing in Boston. She addresses returning- not returning for season 4.

    • dee says:

      Let me preface this with I didn’t see the video. But do you actually believe she doesn’t want to go back on the show? Homegirl lives for the limelight.

    • Adgirl says:

      Wow Kat – thanks! I just watched this. Very interesting. She talks about the final episode lunch. The lunch was an hour and both she and Bethenny enumerated their frustrations with each other but Bravo didn’t air any of that.
      She also said the “Get a Hobby” message from Bethenny was much worse but Bravo also elected not to air the rest of it.
      Looking forward to part 2.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      Holy crap, half-way through I realized that little mongrel was sitting on her lap. Do you think that’s why the camera crew and interviewer were sitting 3 feet away for fear of rabies or poop?

  91. dee says:

    From Kelly’s blog dated June 2, 2010:
    “….but my favorites: BMW 635 csi, and 110 Land Rover DEFENDER will have to come in another lifetime unless they come out on the market with hybrid versions”.
    Made me wonder what where her dream cars. So I go and check it out. Turns out BMW 635CSi were made from 1978 to 1989, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_635CSi.
    And the 100 Land Rover Defender? Well those were actually called Land Rover 110 from 1983 to 1990. After that they were renamed Defenders, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender.

    • upperwestsidedude says:

      I thought she was proud of the fact that she drives a Dodge Ram truck?

      • dee says:

        I don’t know what came first; that someone threw it in her face on how she can talk about being green while driving a pick-up or that she mentioned looking at the Chevy Silverado hybrid, which in turn made someone think about her “un-greenness”.
        Either way, Kelly is a buffoon. I mean wanting a car that, at the very least is 21 years old. Ha!!

        • desertgal66 says:

          Ha! I own a 1985 BMW 635 csi. My husband is a trained mechanic, and he keeps it in tip top shape. It’s a great car. It’s, haha, better than anything Kellamity currently owns.

          This is a “neener neener neener” moment.

        • Kat says:

          I think she’s been sniffing too much gas and that has turned her into a hybrid.

    • dee says:

      edited to say, “made me wonder what her dream cars are….”

  92. Rusty says:

    I’m going to keep cutting and pasting it until I know Lynn has actually seen it. I’m sick of these people ruining this great site for so many when Lynn isn’t even aware of what’s truly been happening.

  93. Rusty says:

    I’m going to keep cutting and pasting it until I know Lynn has actually seen it. I’m sick of these people ruining this great site for so many when Lynn isn’t even aware of what’s truly been happening.

    • Jenni says:

      THANK YOU!!!! I have to run now, but I will be with you in spirit. Please copy and paste my comment as well!

    • boston02127 says:

      @Rusty~~I’m sure Lynn is totally aware of everything posted on this Blog. I would bet money on it! If you like and respect Lynn and maybe you should consider just letting it go. I think she’s had enough of mothering the board.
      Many times people say things I don’t agree with or say something that gets me angry but I find it best to walk away. I don’t let people who get me angry or piss me off take up room in my head. There is more in life to worry about such as things we have no control over.
      I’m posting this with no animosity towards you. Peace and have a good day.

      • viki55 says:

        Good Morning Boston:) I hear what you are saying about walking away. I think a lot of people have been doing that. But there is also a sense of fairness that we all desire. What I saw yesterday was a series of very rude personal attacks and then the victims of those attacks are singled out as the problem. Was there something I missed? Was the person typing the insults an imposter?

  94. otaypanky says:

    Oh definitely Dude…that kitchen is a home depot job…and she as orginally asking over 3mil to live by first and york practically over bed, bath and beyond. She’s delusional. She thinks people want to pay for her “celebrity”….something like buying something ernest hemingway once owned.

    • dee says:

      I was wondering if the buildings on the show are the actual ones the Housewives live in. Because I know where Jill Zarin’s show building is. My father worked as a painter there when it was under construction. That was many many moons ago. Anyway, everytime we passed the 59th St. Bridge, he would complain that he would never live in it because those walls are thin and poorly constructed. Not that he could afford one of those apts. on his salary. But still, point made.

      • upperwestsidedude says:

        I would not want to live in that building or that area. That’s not what I would call the exclusive high-end area of the Upper Eastside. If she lived at 1040 5th Avenue (Jackie Kennedy’s old building) then I might raise an eyebrow.

        • otaypanky says:

          the area is lacking and the building is nothing special. anyone with 2.5 mil to spend has much better options. That’s why it’s on the market so long..
          ..and yes dee…that is the photo of the building and they are abutted to the bridge.

      • otaypanky says:

        I couldn’t afford to buy in her building either…if i could, i would never buy there. the carrying charges are atronomical also…just a poor investment. That’s why she has not been able to shill it.

  95. Fabulous Earth says:

    Lynn – I wanted to send you a personal email but I don’t know your email addy. I just really wanted to say thank you so much for your hard work. This blog has allowed me to get a lil’ insight into the Housewives, identify with perspectives that are similar to mine and most of all IT MADE ME LAUGH (which is something I love to do). I never really thought about it before but it must take a whole lotta work to put something like this together and keep it up. Then to take it a step further and become somewhat of a fixture to the cast of the show and arrange an outside event for Silex. Kudos over and over to you for that alone! I’m so in love with you right now girlie I’m hugging and squeezing the life outta ya’, lol.

    This is definitely a way of letting off steam about what I viewed. I think it hits home because there are some things I can identify with (as far as doing or being the recipient of whatever behavior or even just seeing it done to others). I’ve also gained some ideas and lessons to be learned about my own social behavior. I love life in general but have not really, until now, ventured out and become the social butterfly that I’ve always dreamed to become. So I guess that’s part of my obsession with RHONY.

    Although I may not agree with some assessments here, I really do appreciate yours and everyone else’s view on things. We are all different and come from different walks of life and I’ve learned from the show as well as others on here. So you keep on keepin’ on and much love to you and yours…MUAH!!!!

  96. desertgal66 says:

    Gosh, Kelly, you really need to bring yourself up to date on the reality behind hybrid cars. Mining the nickel for the cadmium batteries causes 96% more environmental damage than manufacturing a gasoline powered car. Miners can also get sick, and some are even dying, from mining the nickel. If you were smart, Kelly, you’d set a new trend by protesting against hybrid cars. But, you’re not smart.

    Course, people like Kelly don’t bother to research the reality. Hybrids are trendy, and that’s all that matters, right?

    Want a truly ‘green’ car? Try hydrogen powered. Mitsubishi is planning a good one.

    • MAMAZ says:

      desetgal – As usual I love what you’re saying. Hybrid cars are not the answer.

      • desertgal66 says:

        Maybe Kelly should chat with Jay Leno. He’s probably a “close friend” of hers (i.e. she saw him at a party once). He’s been a pretty strong advocate against hybrid cars that are powered by nickel cad batteries.

        These celebrities who jumped aboard the hybrid train irritate me. They buy a Prius and pat themselves on the back for being ‘green’. They never bother with the facts.

    • upperwestsidedude says:

      You have to remember that this is coming from the same woman who thinks wearing fur does not mean she abuses animals. I think that is why one her horses died back in April is because she fed them one of those burnt pancakes she cooked up with her girls.

    • dee says:

      Really????? The hybrid car owning celebrities in California are going to jump off cliffs when they hear this.

      • desertgal66 says:

        Yes. Cadmium is a carcinogenic, and cadmium toxicity is a very real problem among men who mine it for NiCad batteries. Cadmium is also damaging to the environment if it isn’t disposed of properly-and a lot of people don’t follow the correct procedures for disposal. The European Union has banned the wide use of NiCad batteries for that reason.

        As well, the mining process causes environmental damage in the process of stripping the element out of the Earth.

        You all might have read of a recent recall by McDonald’s of Shrek glasses that were offered in the restaurants? The reason for the recall was due to the paint used on the glass design containing toxic cadmium.

        Hybrid cars that use NiCad batteries require heavy amounts of cadmium to be mined, thus exposing more miners to cadmium toxicity and higher environmental damage.

        Not ‘green’. Just bad.

    • morning says:

      I had a construction guy work at my house whose big old truck ran on leftover fast food grease. He was getting a lot of kidding because it smelled like frenh fries wherever he went.

  97. MAMAZ says:

    A little OT here. Hope that’s ok with everyone. I just read Danielle’s blog and I made my first attempt at posting on the Bravo site. We’ll see if it gets on. Danielle claims she is a gay advocate. This is what I said:
    If you were harsh with Danny about his use of the word F*G the camera sure didn’t show it. What it did show was you trying to justify it being said. 1 because you were in the middle of”being protected.” 2 Because he didn’t say it to a gay man. Regardless of the circumsatnces of it’s usage it’s offensive to use that word as an insult. You ladt, and I use the term loosely, are no advocate for the gay community.
    Or something close to that.

    • dee says:

      That only thing she is an advocate for is herself. I doubt that she really is a defender of the gays. She’s doing it to show people that she has redeeming qualities. And the only reason she told Juicy Joe to not say the “f” word is because it was Juicy Joe that said it. Other than him, I can’t imagine her caring people uttering that word.

  98. deehub says:

    On a way lighter note. Girl Friend’s Weekend is coming up! Got the last 3 bottles of Skinnygirl Margarita at Specs in Houston.

    Otay, don’t let those dogs use you as a bone. I enjoy your comments.

  99. error 404 says:

    so… let me get this straight… posh educated NY housewives are allowed to insult their frienemies’ husbands/dates as “gay” on a regular basis, and that’s ok, but a thug ex-con who calls someone gay during an altercation is the hight of un-PC declasse?


    • dee says:

      “Educated”? Are you sure about that?

      • upperwestsidedude says:

        When you think about it, I think Alex and Simon are probably the most educated out of all the Housewives franchises. Can you think of anyone else?

      • error 404 says:

        yes. Even if a housewife never made it past high school, she’s been circulating in polite society for 15 to 30 years since.

        But this is why Bravo chooses the women. Men get into fights. They throw punches and/or toss out bad words in anger. Women apparently, are more apt to just hide mean words inside fake niceness. lol The Countless is a master of this… so posh, such smooth language, filled with digs and put downs prefaced with “darling” and suffixed with “my love”.

        I call it the rock inside the snowball.

        • dee says:

          So the Housewives of the South Bronx is a no-go? Because those women will put vaseline on their faces, take off their earrings and throw down. And maybe, just maybe a knife or two will come out.
          And when it comes to the these polite ladies and their digs, Jill, IMO, is the best at it. As for Countless’ digs, if you’re smart, you can give her a retort. Jill…Jill will just “tawk ovah” you.

        • MAMAZ says:

          Of course not! I hated that anytime the NY housewives want to rip on Simon they did by calling him gay. Jen Gilbert lost me the first night by publicly calling LuAnn’s date gay. I hate when anyone uses the word gay as an insult.

    • upperwestsidedude says:

      I agree, there is some hypocrisy going on there.

      • otaypanky says:

        i don’t know guys…that show is way too scripted for me. i don’t believe there is ‘any’ reality on that show.

        the most reality there is that dina has obviously been upset about the direction of the show. i believed when she wrote in her blog that she warned her family about filming the fundraiser for the baby.
        she has not been in attendence when other wives have gathered for interviews. she’s been essentially a no show outside the show since it started airing. She’s just so outta there

  100. dee says:

    Michael K’s, from DListed, version of Danielle’s sex tape. It’s very crass, but description is maybe close to the real thing:

  101. desertgal66 says:

    I’m baffled by Danielle’s reasoning. Where I come from, calling a gay man a “f****t” is insulting, but referring to a heterosexual man that way is even more out of line. How does she figure it’s okay?

    • error 404 says:

      She didn’t say it was ok, but her lame attempt to deflate the fallout revolved around this: to call a gay man the f word is hate speech by law and you can file it with the police as such. To call a guy you know is straight the f word is just a demeaning insult.

      ie. a straight guy call another straight guy “bitch”. It’s demeaning. A straight guy calls the other straight guy’s wife “bitch”… that’s worse.

      but long story short… why are we trying to find logic in the spin of fame-obsessed crazy people? lol

    • Kat says:

      It is an insult.

    • otaypanky says:

      danielle is an enigma…now don’t bang on me. i can see the love in her eyes for her kids. her parenting skills are awful. but she really does love her kids. it is sad.

  102. anniieee says:

    ouch…. memories…

    • kokuanani says:

      Thank you. I’ve been wanting to write the same thing to Lynn, but I can’t find any way to reach her.

      I’m pretty lax on “rules” [a la TWOP and their ridiculous “banning” if you sneeze], but this bullying and name-calling by ONE poster on this blog ought to be stopped by Lynn. It’s unfair to all the rest of us who “play by the rules.”

  103. LefttheBuilding says:

    Don’t forget Had Enough, haven’t seen her on here since!

  104. nicky says:

    Someone should remind Teresa that she has a mother and a father (and possibly Joes parents too) who can help her with a new baby.
    Bethanny doesn’t have parents, and her husbands parents live in another state.
    How dare she bad mouth B for hiring help. T should feel bad for her that she has to pay someone to be there instead of having her family, especially her mother, be there to help.
    I fully intent to hire a nanny to help me when my first child is born, but I wish more than anything that it could be my mother who was there instead.

    Also, B works. She has a brand and a business. Unlike T who spends all her husbands money and forces him into bankruptcy. At least B can afford a nanny. Bc after this it look like it might be daycare for T’s little “divas”.

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  106. A.Chandler says:

    Lynn can you let people know I have posted nothing about you or even Jill anywhere lately. Someone is using my name on sites to either support zarin or sound ratical. If it doesn’t sound calm and normal it’s not me and I never defame u. Thanks. Ps it’s sounds like the redhead again

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