I Hate Jill Zarin Reunion Part 1 June 10, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin     The Reunion Hasn’t Changed That    June 10, 2010

It was Bethenny night on Bravo!  Wow talk about an overload of Bethenny, but personally, I loved it!

First let me say that Bethenny’s Getting Married? was so refreshing, fun and hysterical!  I truly enjoyed it and it put a much needed smile on my face.

First, the reunion!  We’ve all seen the format, nothing changed which was nice actually.  They started with Alex McCord and wow, it is true she has found her voice this season….Go Alex!  I don’t know what it is but it seems like any dispute or disagreement that Alex has with anyone, I tend to believe Alex!  When it comes to this nonsense that Zarin is spewing about Alex trying to put lies in the press about Jill….I don’t believe it for one second!

According to reports, Jill had four publicists to prepare her for the reunion…Jill is doing damage control, she is trying to repair her reputation.  Jill said, “since the end of taping to now, I have changed and you’ll see it today”.  This is Jill’s pathetic attempt to get public sympathy.  They endless apologies, the crying, the getting up and walking out, “I can’t do this anymore”…boo hoo!  Has Jill changed?  Let’s explore..

Here are Jill’s tweets during the show:

 Ginger has a new boyfriend!! http://tweetphoto.com/26601523

@AKRPR heller here too. Brad just walked in with 10 people!

Thanks jason! RT @CubCarter @Jillzarin you know i think you’re amazing and a great person.. if i were in NYC i would love to be your friend.

Hanging in “the bed” with @jonathancheban watching reunion! If twitter could talk! http://tweetphoto.com/26594277

Thanks for all the comments. Love reading them. Now hanging with @jonathancheban! Nite nite! http://bit.ly/cg4Xjr

We love you too! RT@Real_Housewives I love you @JillZarin

For those of you who asked my psychic is JenniferRogersMedium.com

Sorry my site crashed! I need to figure out another way to do this. Sorry guys. When it is fixed..I will blog and… http://bit.ly/dk7IjR

Jason was very nice to me when we worked out together. He didn’t have to do it if I was such a horrible person did he?

If B ever cared about me…she would not have done this to me. I would NEVER have let this happen to her. EVER.

My page crashed again! What do I do? OYE http://bit.ly/9kMCAC

Jill RE-Tweeted this one….KaleyMargaret    @Bethenny is crossing the line right now… don’t take blows at @JillZarin’s husband and daughter.

B admitted I wanted to talk off camera to make up. Don’t you get it. I wanted to TALK TO MY FRIEND. It was real.

Now B doesn’t remember? She told @bravoandy I never said I wanted to talk off camera? She is deflecting. And now hurting my ally?

I always wanted to be on an ensemble. I did want to be with B and would miss her. I was so happy for her. I was the first person she told.

Thank you Luann!

B told me not to film with Kelly…everyone has tried to control filming etc. Don’t throw stones

You bet..we all make money and wanted the same thing

site keeps crashing!

give @kikilet some love people. She did NOTHING wrong…just wanted to be on a tv show to make money for her kids. Seriously…don’t be mean

So?  Has Jill changed?  She continues to slam Bethenny….defending Kelly, and talking to the hand with Luann because Luann said nothing to Jill, about Jill or about the show on Twitter.  That means it is something Luann said on the show but there is no way to figure out which one of Luann’s brilliant comments that Jill was thanking her for.

Jill says that if the tables were turned, she wouldn’t have done this to Bethenny.  What?  What exactly did Bethenny do to you Jill?  She tried and tried to get the friendship back, then she saw the true Jill.  Who can blame her?  Jill continues on to throw Bethenny under the bus by saying that Bethenny tried to get Jill to avoid filming with Kelly.  Wow Jill, good thing you want to renew your friendship with Bethenny! 

Even while defending Kelly, she insinuates that Kelly needs money for her kids, that was mean and completely unnecessary!  The fact that Jill says that Kelly “did nothing wrong” could really be proof positive that Jill has no memory! 

Here’s the best one, Jill tweeted then deleted it, but since Simon VanKempen responded to it, we can still see it:

@SimonVanKempen  u r a liar -no proof exists. RT / @JillZarin Just because you say it ALEX doesn’t make it true!! You tried to bash my family and I have PROOF.

I got a DM (private tweet) today….

XXXXXXXXXXX   jz DMd me to say YOU’ve sent threats to her home+posted personal info. I told her to block me if she must+I didn’t think u’d do such a thing

I blocked out the tweeter’s name to protect her identity but I must say, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this.  I mentioned in an earlier blog about Jill’s new hobby of sending private DM’s to my followers trying to win them back as fans by LYING about me!

So personally, Jill’s crocodile tears have left me disgusted!  She has not done or said anything to make me believe that she has changed.

If you notice one of Jill’s tweets talks about her having Jonathan in her bed watching the reunion.  Jonathan is her publicist and he is being paid to be in her bed (Kelly would be horrified) .  It shocks me to think that this man sat next to her while she tweeted those lines!   Either he is a complete failure at his job or Jill doesn’t listen to the people she hires to protect her.  Maybe he told her to delete the tweet to Alex?  Oh well, another opportunity to repair her reputation…gone!  Maybe she’ll do better on Monday! 

The reunion will be a full three episodes.  Originally fans anticipated two reunion and one lost footage.  I still think that they will do a lost footage show. 

Luann was a complete non-entity during this portion of the reunion, her shining moment?  Andy Cohen asked a question from a viewer, as usual Andy says the name of the viewer and where they are from followed by the question.  Luann’s response, “who asked that?”  hahaha  Why?  Do you think you may know this person Luann?  Will the answer be different based on who asked the question?  OMG priceless!

As we saw in the previews, Ramona’s time will come in the next installment of the reunion, but she did pretty well with her “Renewal” questions.  Viewers did not see a change in Ramona, perhaps until the end of the season.  I must say that we did seem to see a whole different Ramona while the ladies were in the Virgin Islands.

Kelly’s snarkfest with Alex was sort of strange.  The feud that they were discussing was between Bethenny and Kelly so I was a little surprised that Alex chimed in, I guess this is the new Alex!  If there is one person who doesn’t need help with an argument, it is Bethenny but it was sweet that Alex stood up for her.

The next installment is Monday, per Simon’s tweet Bravo had done that in order to boost the ratings for The Real Housewives of New Jersey.  (cute joke Simon!)  Sort of true though.

The final of the three episodes will be shown on Thursday of next week, again prior to Bethenny’s show. 

I’d like to answer a few questions that I saw in the blog that were directed to me, 

Someone asked why I haven’t blogged about Danielle and her Sex tape scandal.  Honestly, I am not a huge fan of the Jersey girls and while I have blogged about them in the past and will probably talk about the show again before the season is over, I honestly don’t know much about what is going on with Danielle.

I did see a tweet from Jacqueline Laurita saying that Danielle herself released the tape?  Honestly I don’t know what is going on.  I’ve seen some still photos and the previews for next week for NJ.  That is the extent of what I know.  If any of what I’ve seen is true, it is horrific for her children and I think we should all say a prayer for them.  Beyond that, I really don’t know, but many others are blogging about NJ.   Including www.ImStillToni.com

It isn’t because I’m letting Danielle “off the hook” or choose to bash Kelly and feel bad for her children while I don’t care about Danielle’s beautiful daughters, I’m just not all that interested in that show.  Feel free to talk amongst yourselves if the topic moves you.

Big stretch here but I’m thinking it is Dina who is leaving the show, what do you all think?  Dina, right?

 I don’t mind at all, for you all to post your own personal blogs here, please everyone continue to post your own re-caps of the shows. 

For those who have been neglecting your families, jobs, children, housework,  Welcome to my world!  I’m sorry I’m endangering your job, your homelife and your sanity..LOL

Bravo Fan – Happy Birthday!

Many of you have asked about how Jill tried to stop the cocktail reception that I organized for Alex and Simon at Simon’s request.   There were a few times during the discussions that both Alex and Simon would hesitate before they answered a question,  they would say something like, “this is off the record” or “this is confidential” and frankly, this one tidbid I couldn’t remember if it was to be kept confidential so I sent a message to Simon and asked him.  He respectfully requested that I not talk about it on the blog so I will honor his wishes. 

No one wants to shout it from the rooftops more than I do and maybe someday Alex and Simon won’t care if word gets out but until then, I really do apologize.  I know how frustrating it is to get a small item without the details, so I truly do apologize.  I did still want everyone to know that she did make that attempt. 

Finally to all of you for your outpouring of support, love and loyalty,  Thank you so much!  You all have no idea how much it means to me!

Bethenny’s Getting Married?  Blog up next.

Until next time…


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843 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Reunion Part 1 June 10, 2010

  1. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Lynn!

  2. Anitabee says:

    Been waiting all night for the new blog — Thanks Lynn!

    Btw, how brain damaged is Jill. How long is it going to take to DM thousands of her lost fans? As fans are brainless twits that would actually believe her.

    Didn’t Jonathan have a reality show on E? Did anyone see it? Did it get cancelled?

  3. A former Jill fan says:

    Thanks for the new blog Lynn! I had just found bethluvsben’s post a few minutes ago. LOL! Had a ball with that one!

  4. cusi77 says:

    Jill’s memory is VERY selective… it always works in her favor…

    • Kat says:

      Yes Cusi, very selective. Very self serving. I hope she chokes on her own dish.

    • HousewifeInCurlers says:

      The only reason I cut her SOME slack for this is because she and Bethenny have joked about it since Season 1 that Jill forget everything. It was an ongoing joke between them that she is the best person to argue with because she will forget about it the next day. Even this season she made that hilarious, nonsensical comment that “I will never forgive Alex for this. I may forget, because I forget everything, but I will never forgive” and I remember laughing out loud when Simon tweeted something about Jill having a whole slew of people that she hates but doesn’t know why. LOL

  5. katiecoo says:

    I love how Jill says to Ramona how she’s not lost any friends (on the Reunion) then goes in to despairing the loss of her friendship with Bethenny shortly thereafter.

    Let’s not forget that a few days after this was filmed, Jill was videotaped at a book event talking about how she “cut things off with Bethenny for a reason” continuing to bash her publicly. Loose cannon.

    • HousewifeInCurlers says:

      She said she didn’t lose a friend (in Alex) because supposedly Alex was never her friend.

  6. RileyKitty says:

    Is it normal to announce so openly you are watching your show with you PR people? Doesn’t PR scream spin to most of us normal folks. To me she needed to hire a PR person before the show aired for them to do the job properly

    • katiecoo says:

      It was like her “recital” with the piano teacher there watching the outcome of their protege. Maybe the “viewing” was included in the price for the PR package. An evaluation of sorts with the whole play by play commentary.

    • Kat says:

      I bet the PR guy told her how well she did. The emporer has no clothes.

    • boston02127 says:

      I don’t think it’s normal. Where is Bobby Zarin while her publistist is in bed with her. I know it’s not a sexual thing but still why would Bobby allow that?
      Why would Jill? What ever happen to the living room, den, kitchen table? I know she once said she comes from a “bed” family but where is the line drawn.
      Ohh the meter reader is here let me jump in bed to talk to him.

      • anniieee says:

        And then she said the Ramona was indiscreet for “kissing” the hooters guy? What a freaking hypocrite…while she lays in bed with 10 guys.

  7. Anitabee says:

    There are 3 “moments” at the reunion that popped out to me.

    1. When Andy is say hi to all of them to start the reunion, the camera pans to Jill when Alex is addressed. Jill looked like she wanted to poor gasoline on Alex and light a match. She was like a rabid dog ready to attack.

    2. Jill was actually pretty quiet at the reunion. Her PR person must have told her to keep quiet as possible and kiss Bethanny’s ass at every opportunity. She didn’t stick up for Kelly or Luann at the reunion.

    3. Let’s all give a shout out to Bethenny for telling the viewers what REALLY happened between her and Jill. Thank God. Jill keeps lying which is her pathetic M.O. but Bethenny didn’t give her a pass nor make up with Jill. Why should she. Jill took herself out and now there is no room for her in B.’s life.

    That’s what happens when you act like a bitter vile gutless lying spider monkey Jill! People DO NOT have to forgive you nor will they when you have betrayed them like you do.

    Andy — come on…aren’t you sick of Jill’s disgusting behavior? Why would you want her on the next season of RHONY. Bethenny, Alex, Ramona, Sonja, LuAnn and a new “got it together” housewife would be an awesome ensemble.

    Out with the hopeless don’t -get – it twits and in with a real deal SJP-like socialite should be Bravo’s casting theme for the next season of RHONY.

    • katiecoo says:

      Good points! I think Andy really goes after Jill next two episodes.

      One thing to add…one of Jill’s favorite tactics is to go with the “we’re not friends!” line. The hilarious thing is that Alex doesn’t care AT ALL and no reaction…so Jill has to repeat it like 3 times for effect. Like it’s some big huge deal to not be JZ’s friend….rrrrright.

      So she’s replaced Luann and Bethenny with this Spin Dr. as her latest bed gossip partner? She’ll never have another Bethenny and she knows it. She missed that bus after she ramrodded in to it with her semi truck, then backed over and ran over it again a few more times.

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Very funny imagery, katiecoo. Truck backing up. LOL!

      • Anitabee says:

        Funny how Bawby told Jill she made a mistake refusing to makeup with Bethenny.

        Ironic how Jason knows Bethenny did the right thing of not letting Jill back in their lives.

        I guess Jason knows toxic when he sees it and doesn’t want it around his precious fantastic family.

    • HousewifeInCurlers says:

      I was not surprised that the reason their friendship really broke up was because of Jill’s envy of everything coming Bethenny’s way. I KNEW it wasn’t just about Bobby’s cancer. The whole season she made it seem like it was the cancer and THEN bethenny told her to ‘get a hobby’, but in reality Bethenny told her to get a hobby because she was so worried about everything Bethenny was getting invited to do!

      • pfinfl says:

        Exactly and Jill’s excuse for it? She wanted to do everything with her. What????? I honestly got Bethenny’s comment last night about not being able to tell her about this job and that request.

        So, okay….what if Bethenny was an actress? She gets a part playing in some movie. Jill wants to be in the same movie? I don’t get her thinking. IF you are not asked Jill…there is a reason!!!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      3) Jill’s only thought was so Jason doesn’t like me????? I will get him for that! Nothing else Bethenny said registered!

  8. A former Jill fan says:

    Lynn just to let you know, Jill’s tweet to Alex is still there. It’s just hidden and if you click on “more” once or twice and scroll down, you can see it. 🙂

    Just because you say it ALEX doesn’t make it true!! You tried to bash my family and I have PROOF. about 5 hours ago via web

  9. Adgirl says:

    Jill just seems out of control!!
    “I’ve changed/I can’t change! I would never say anything mean about Bethenny/I’m a NY bitch!”

    She lets her emotions run wild and she has to react. So presto! She’s making the call, twitter, email, insult, press contact whatever.
    Afterwards she feels so much better and she instantly forgets!!
    “I don’t remember, so it never happened!!


    • Anitabee says:

      Jill has gone back to her usual evil ways tonight.

      No change…still attacking Bethenny and Alex.

      Although she must hate Kelly too by publicly stating that Kelly nervous breakdown was normal and Kelly has to do RHONY so Kelly can feed her kids. I wonder if Kelly is so bad off that Jill will have to give her a home like she have Bethenny last year.

      What a backhanded way to say that Kelly is hardup and is need of money. I guess that Giles must be a deadbeat dad that doesn’t support his kids if Jill is publicly going around stating this.

      • Adgirl says:

        That’s definetly one way to look at it. I thought Jill was playing the sympathy card on behalf of Kelly.

        You notice that Jill doesn’t give a damn about whether Alex brings home money for her kids!!

        • Anitabee says:

          If Jill was a true friend she would have some sort of intervention for Kelly.

          By stating that Kelly did nothing wrong she is enabling Kelly. Kelly needs some real help and friends at this time. Not a self-serving leech like Jill doing her more harm than good in the long run.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Re; Jill’s statement that Kelly needs to do this show to feed her kids.

        Jill really must think everyone is a moron, Kelly’s NYC apartment is in a VERY expensive building where the starting point-even in a down market is at 1.7 million and goes up to +25 million. Her home in the Hamptons is worth about 17 million and a lot of it is equity since it was purchased for under 5 million. Jill even said as much herself on last years season reunion.

        Not to mention, if there was any measure of truth to this, Kelly doesn’t seem to value her job. Typically, most people don’t call their bosses liars on twitter unless they are planning on resigning.

        • teamb says:

          you know how ol’ Jillsy makes a mountain out of a holemill? when this whole thing came up in the beginning episodes of the show,,,it was Jill who said (when Kelly accused Bethenny of a smear campaign) that Bethenny tried to messs with her livlihood and I was like wtf??? Then that thing about Bethenny not wantinng Kelly on the show came out in the reunion,,I said hold on there…in the last reunion ( season2) they were asked if they thought Kelly should come back and I know Jill said she liked it better with just the originals,,and maybe LuAnn too……so Bethenny not being phony and saying she don’t want her back is messing with her livlihood???? um,,so did u Jill…so did u,,oh wait,,Jill says “she didn’t mean it that way”..awwww okey dokey

  10. katiecoo says:

    Does anyone wonder if Luann is sitting over there far from Kelly wondering if she’s landed on the wrong team?

    • Anitabee says:

      Thought bubble over Luann…

      “Where did I go wrong? Last year I sat next to Bethenny who was the show’s biggest star. This year I am sitting on the couch with the show’s most disgusting vile unbathed mentally ill monkey’s asses. How did I get here? Doesn’t everyone love my songs? I got signed to a real record deal. I gotta find the way to get on the right couch next season. Maybe I’ll check out a book on manners at the library tomorrow…oh crap didn’t I write one? Don’t I cover this in it? Damn now I wish I hadn’t eaten Kelly’s jelly beans that she offered me before the show. Why DOES Kelly smell like cat pee?…”

      • katiecoo says:

        lol! For me Luann could still be redeemed…say if a cast next year as someone else mentioned was BRAS and Luann and one other cool, maybe ethnic or woman of color HW. Someone to bring a whole new storyline, like a restauranteur or someone like that. Ditch Jill, Kelly and let Luann find a new place in the pack.

      • Noreen says:

        LOL! You are hysterical!

      • teamb says:

        OMG,,gurl……I’m rolling on the fkoor laffin..well not literally..Kelly will sound out the words and say this chick weote she was rolling on the floor,,,lol…u r toooooooooooo funny

    • myname2use4now says:

      I think what’s left of “The Countess” belongs on the Jill/Kelly side of the couch but Luanne (can’t carry a tune but will record and lipsync a song just for the fun of it) wants to be on the other side of the couch. I think she has some redeeming qualities and it would be great to see her ‘renew’ and drop the countess act and go on a tear and have fun next season. I can see her and Sonja painting the town red in a big way. Free Luanne!!!

  11. shantygal says:

    Quote: Jill continues on to throw Bethenny under the bus by saying that Bethenny tried to get Jill to avoid filming with Kelly.

    If there is any truth to this statement, Bethenny probably tried to WARN jill to avoid filming with Kelly, to save her the pain of dealing with her. Now she’s stuck with K, hahahahaha.

    • Jennifer says:

      I think there is a diff between ‘ don’t film with Kelly she is weird’ ( on they show they share) and ‘ don’t film with B and help her get a shoe of her own
      plus IF Jill was really B’s friend she wouldn’t want that, and B was never Kelly’s friend so owed her nothing

      • teamb says:

        I totally concur,,,,

      • teamb says:

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        The new word for the season boys and girls is carthartic…..this like really really rally crazy ( oh AL Sharpton!) Kelly used this word at least 3 times and now in her blog,,,and she was an editor???? please Andy for my sanity please for the love of God do not have this twisted sister back!!!!!!!!!!! Playing the I’m sooooo shy,,so vulnerable ,but can throw a mean left hook and batter her boyfriend…she’s unpredictable and really like dangerous…….she and Jill should ride into the sunset….

        And Jill being the hot property she is,,when asked if she will come back next season..like her high school mean girl act,,I’m not going if Alex will be there…Act your age not your shoe size lady…..PS..love u Alex

    • Kat says:

      Didn’t see a comment by you yet. Moderater?
      Omarosa is a bitch. Didn’t a piece of ceiling fall on her head? Brain damage.

      • katiecoo says:

        I saw it on there but did it get edited off?

        • Kat says:

          Unless you posted as suzi or jacey? 3 comments are posted.

          • katiecoo says:

            Oh! It’s awaiting moderation~

            katiecoo on Jun 10th, 2010 at 10:37 pm Your comment is awaiting moderation.

            Um Omarosa is more comparable to Jill Zarin who is headed to the same dried up hasbeen train she’s riding. Meanwhile Bethenny is swinging on a star!

            • Kat says:

              I liked how Bethenny handled Omarosa’s snide remarks on WWHL.
              Bethenney has class and humor both lacking in that sniper Omarosa.

    • TLM says:

      Omarosa has a show? Omarosa wrote a book? Who has known or cared about this weirdo since she was actually on Donald Trump’s show some 6 years ago? It is not Bethenny’s fault that her name came up – it was Sherry Shepard who thought she was making some brilliant analogy on The View, and Bethenny was put on the spot to respond. No one, but no one, could figure out why Shepard brought up that name. Her own castmates on The View were taken aback. Comparing Bethenny to Lawrence Welk would have made as much sense.

    • BamaBelle says:


      I read your reply, and it was a good one. Did you see what that idiot said under your post?

      Omarossa, or whatever her name is, is just as DISGUSTING as Jill! And, it’s just sickening that such horrible rumors are flying around that Jason is gay… that’s totally ABSURD!

    • teamb says:

      my comment didn’t post..but Omarosa pulled that gay card when Piers was beating her ass in Celebrity apprentice,,omg,,the almost last comment,,U KNOW IT”S HER writing it,,lol..omg,,she is a nut job! Bethenny addressed that on Andy’s show…she will not talk about Omarosa,,because any talk of her makes her the happiest person on earth,,so Bethenny won’t feed into it,,,smart chick!

  12. A former Jill fan says:

    Great blog Lynn! Glad you’ll be blogging Bethenny’s show! It is a wonderful change from all the trashiness and bad behavior on these housewife shows. I sure hope bravo doesn’t renew the option with jill and kelly so we can watch BRASS! It would be such a different show!

    In the meantime, we’ll have a great summer watching Bethenny, Jason, Cookie, and little Bryn when she makes her appearance.

    🙂 So much to look forward to!

  13. cusi77 says:

    Dear Lynn,

    May I ask why Simon stop his Blogs in Bravo?

    Did you noticed when Alex was talking about Simon quiting smoking and gain 6 pounds… Alex said something like “You will see him speed (I did not understad)… next season” and the three arpies started laughling in a “sarcastic” way? Was it sarcartic laugh or Alex comment was TOO funny?

    We respect Lynn whatever you have to keep for yourself, and respect you more for being loyal to your friends. We trust you. No need to explain. But Thank you

    • shantygal says:

      Alex said “You will see him in a Speedo next season”. Even she laughed too.

    • Adgirl says:

      She said he will be back in Speedos next year. It was a reference to his banana hammock tiny swim suit on season 1.

    • TLM says:

      Bravo to Simon for quitting smoking. Wow, they did a great job at keeping that a secret. I never once saw a photo of him with a cigarette. Glad he will be setting an example for his sons not to smoke. I do think he gained more than 6 lbs. — he’s tall enough that 6 lbs would not be noticeable — but I am sure he will lose the weight as Alex predicted. I just hope he will switch to board shorts and a rashguard instead of Speedos. He is Australian, after all!!

  14. shantygal says:

    Lynn, I love the smell of a new blog!

    Hat’s off to the hardest working blogger in America! U-S-A, U-S-A

  15. bethluvsben says:

    Hello friends!!
    Jill was wonderful at the reunion. I thought her grace and dignity separated her from the other ladies. I LOVED her shoes as well. They were so….JILL!!!
    I don’t believe you LYNN HUDSON. It is very convenient to say “It’s confidential” how Jill tried to stop your little bar hop with Alex and Simon. But are we talking about military secrets here? COME ON!! If you are being THAT maligned and challenged about it, you would give the info out. Sounds like there isn’t any.

    • katiecoo says:

      Hey bethluvsben,

      What was going on on the bottom of Jill’s shoe? Was it the remnant of a sticker? Wear and tear marks? What was going on there on those red Louboutin signature soles?

      • Anitabee says:

        This flying of monkey of Jill is BORING. Like you really like Jill Zarin. Please.

        What some people will do for money….


      • patricia henderson says:

        when i modeled in the 70’s, we had to put tape on the bottom of the shoes so they could still be sold after the show.

      • fairydusted says:

        I thought it was the price tag so she can return them.

    • shantygal says:

      She was wonderful, completely living up to her reputation. I was not the least bit disappointed.

    • Adgirl says:

      Team Breakthrough?

    • shantygal says:

      Who’s Ben?

      • boston02127 says:

        @shantygal~I don’t know who Ben is but he’s most likely out screwing someone other than Beth.

      • error 404 says:

        “Ben” is the alias Jason uses when he’s out at gay bars… or it was a reference to Ben Linus, Hugo’s #2 for protecting the island.

      • Hooked On Housewives says:

        Who’s Ben?

        Don’t know but Beth luvs him. LOL.

    • HD says:

      Jill WAS wonderful! I loved every second of her opening her mouth! Loved it! It REALLY her character. You are sooooooooooooooooo right! She did a GREAT job and I hope she keeps it up Monday and Thursday as well.

      Also, Lynn is a little bit too smart for your reverse psychology. If Simon and Alex don’t want her to mention the information she is NOT going to. Unlike SOME people that we know that will save personal messages and play them for ANYONE or God forbid, have them on speaker phone in front of “friends”. Noooooooooooo we don’t know ANYONE like that.

      But at any rate, I AGREE 100% with you, JILL DID A WONDERFUL JOB! Please, please, please keep it up, Jill. We are LOVING IT!! It suits you! PLEASE keep talking! PLEASE! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    • jb8 says:

      Jill! Is that you again?

      • anniieee says:


        Keep your comments coming
        It’s all right with us
        See-no one minds that you
        Say what you feel.
        More power to you.
        You are more than welcome on here.
        All opinions are
        So sorry that you feel the need though to
        Still come on the I Hate Jill Zarin Blog.

        There we go… put it in the wrong spot….

    • little rock says:

      Beth, the fact that lynn is being maligned AND YET STILL refuses to betray alex/simon shows she has more character than you(and jill) could ever understand.
      Also, something else jill doesn’t get: self restraint. Of course, lynn WANTS to reveal the truth, but doing so will hurt alex/simon so she REFRAINS from commenting. You and jill should take a (free) lesson.

    • RAR says:

      Nobody cares what you have to say and stop trying to bully Lynn on her own blog.

      I hate jillzarin – even more now! Thanks troll!

    • The Digger says:

      Beth, I love you the most. Of everyone here it is ME who loves you the most. Your oxox, your recognizable writing style. All of it. Digger loves it. Here, I wanted to gift you back, some extras in case you run out: ooooooooooooooxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxooooooooooxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

    • pfinfl says:

      Hi Beth, or one of Jill’s family members….friends (what she has left)!

      You don’t have to believe Lynn. Jill has proven over and over what a liar she is. So…if details of it came out….she would lie again. So, why bother? She is the hypocrite. What you post on here convinces no one otherwise. Go give Jill some luv….I’m sure she needs it with all that she is losing lately!

  16. Smompy says:

    YAY, I enjoyed both the reunion show and the premiere of BGM.

    Even after being coached by a staff of public relations people, Jill was still incapable of speaking for more than five seconds without making a complete ass of herself and demonstrating her pathological deceit, narcissism and hypocrisy. In a recent magazine interview, Jill spoke about the new take-no-prisoners Alex:

    “What does Jill have to sayin response? “Bobby and I wish Alex and Simon only the best,” she tells Life & Style. “It’s unfortunate we couldn’t sustain the friendship we started.”

    Sustain WHAT friendship, Jill? You just said several times, on camera, that you and Alex were NEVER friends. Dumbass liar!

    Although LuAnn didn’t get a lot of air-time, as usual she still managed to piss me off a few times. She’s damn good at that. LOVED Ramona’s comment about Lulu’s ubiquitous one shouldered purple dress! And Alex rocked. Kelly…just go away already. I can’t wait for Round 2 and the addition of Sonja to Team BRA on Monday night.

    • katiecoo says:

      I’d love to see someone do a mashup of the times JZ said, to various people “we’re not friends”. Or the famous “I thought we were friends, now I know we’re not!”. Is there anyone on the cast she’s NOT at some point said that to?

      • teamb says:

        or the comment “leave..just leave”..I was flipping laffing when she told Alex to leave that Jen’s (UGH) party,,omg…the feelings of entitlement and grandiose…oh wait no feelings allowed…

  17. Smompy says:

    Oh, BTW, not-gay-Max has his own Bravo blog already!

    • katiecoo says:

      right on!

    • error 404 says:

      Max always seemed more “gay for pay” to me. I suppose now that he has UES housewives to pay him for sex, he can give up the rent boy gigs.

      • error 404 says:

        OMG.. me so stupid… I thought Max, the argentinian gigolo was blogging. He’s the only straight guy on RH0NY that I ever got a gay vibe from.

        So.. B’s new assistant assistant is blogging for BGM?. OK got it.

        I think he handled it well, but seriously, saying you assume a guy is gay because he has jell in his hair? In 2010? In NYC where 67% of the men are actor/model wannabees and 97% of the men realize that a little hair jell will improve your chances of getting laid, like 150%? Seriously? Isn’t it time we left this kind of nensense where it belongs, back int he 20th century.

  18. Kat says:

    Lynn thank you for your blog!
    As Lynn was pointing out the hypocrisy of Jill’s claims to have changed versus her actions it reminded me of a post by Mickey Mouth.

    Here is the url Mickey Mouth posted: http://imgur.com/wpOFb.png

    It is a screen grab (Ithink) of Jill’s blog before the wordpress crash.

    • Jenni says:

      Thanks for reposting this! I had somehow missed it before. I am so glad someone took the screen shot, because I would bet big $$$$ that it will disappear. It is filled with mean spirited enuendo, faulty logic, and falsehoods. There is not one single valid point of any value that I can find….

      • teamb says:

        if u believe there was a server crash..i got ocean front property in
        Arizona for sale….that’s good ol’ Jillsy being Jill and oh wait,,,”i didn’t mean it that way..it didn’t come out right…

        It “crashed” to get all the negative hits off it,,,can u say narcissit Jill…ok I can’t spell it,,but at least I know what it means..really really amazingly into yourself,,,,,*looking the Bensimon dictionary

  19. katiecoo says:

    You know in the mashup of Jill/Bethenny drama it shows Jill starting to talk about Bobby’s cancer and the very next thing out of her mouth is about how Bethenny only sent flowers. Not how bad the cancer was, how he’s doing, how it was for her, what happened in the hospital, the treatment..nothing. All she’s interested in talking about is Bethenny’s response to her.

    Then goes straight in to the “cut her out like a cancer” comment about Bethenny. THAT one comment would be enough for me to say “no thanks”. WE ARE DONE. I wish she’d get confronted on that comment.

    • Jenni says:

      I think she is not dwelling on the details of the cancer treatments is because, as someone else had found out on a previous post, thyroid cancer is one of the more contained cancers. They said it is not normally a high risk to spread, fairly slow growing, and normally treatable with a fairly minor (single day in hospital) operation to remove the tumor, which may need be followed up with chemo but in some cases, chemo is not even needed. I suspect if Bobby had to do any chemo, Jill would have mentioned it.

      Not to minimize what Bobby and Jill had to go through (finding out you or a loved one has cancer is a huge emotional hit), but THANK GOD Bobby had the cancer diagnosed early, had the operation, and that the type of cancer he had to overcome was in the thyroid!

      • GreatExpectations says:

        Terrible to say, I know, but I couldn’t help but to think that part of Jill’s freak out over his death is that his kids from his previous marriage will get everything and she will be on a constrained budget as a widow. No more bling bling, but having to beg her stepson for extras. I know a lot of people have speculated why Bobby Zarin’s children and family are so quiet about the harpy he married. They must be expecting a big payout in the will and the joy of cutting her off.

    • fairydusted says:

      Great point Katiecoo! It seems to me in Jill’s world she says or does no wrong. At least when the BRAS say something jacked up they own it and apologize.

  20. katiecoo says:

    PS. Does Jill really think saying “zip it!” is the equivalent to saying to someone “we’re done” (on speaker phone no less)? And she tells her daughter “we’re done”? If so, that’s abusive. Talk about threatening abandonment to your own daughter! Sick!

    • Anitabee says:

      No surprise there really.

      Jill has thrown Ally under the bus several times. Let’s see Babygate, at the reunion when Jill acted like a babbling babboon at Brooklyn Fashion Weekend it was because Ally went to school(???), and then included Ally on the disasterous leaked press scandal posted at the “Dirty.com” by Nik.

      I think Jill has proven she would eat her own young for the chance of getting her own Bravo show.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill is trying to use “emotions for my family” to garner sympathy. Failed. She tried to equate “I’m a NY Bitch” to Zip It (person vs speech). FAILED AGAIN. Most of all, she couldn’t stop getting that last little dig in (being sincere and phony at the same time just cancels the sincerity). FAILED AGAIN.

  21. Jill's dastardly plans says:

    Sucks screen capped Jill’s blog in case she erased it. Interesting stuff.

  22. Jillousyness says:

    The reunion tonight was good and a lot to absorb. What would be hilarious for the next reunion is if Ramona, Alex, probably Sonja and who knows about Bethenny, to come in with laptops ready and reams of copies of every correspondence with Jill. You know, voice mails, tweets, emails and anything else to have “proof” to show Jill exactly what she said and now can’t remember or denies. God. How tiresome it was to constantly hear her say ‘show me’ or ‘I don’t remember’. She doesn’t win arguments she just wears people down and makes them want to throw their hands up. Stupid bitch. She really gets on my last nerve.

    On another note – Kelly looked like hell. She looked unkempt and worn out. She really has it in for Alex as well. Think her and Jill talk about that? Yep. She would call out Alex when everyone was talking and attack Alex by saying don’t put words in her mouth. She really looked dejected when LuAnn said she told Kelly not to go on the trip. She looked down and seemed like she didn’t want that to come up.

    • Kat says:

      Maybe have Judge Judy oversee the evidence production and keep Jill quiet while it’s produced. Policeman Kelly wouldn’t interupt a judge.

    • GreatExpectations says:

      I don’t think Kelly got the Countess’ putdown. She does that downward looking pose to look more childlike. It was her “look at me, I’m so harmless” pose. I find it more and more repulsive in a 40-something, 6 foot tall woman. I mean, it’s ridiculous. Also, I found Luann’s comment completely wrong. We all so the show, she was not a harmless tree mouse or whatever, she was a hulking, threatening presence on that ship.

  23. Anitabee says:

    Btw, I loves me some Kathy Griffin!

    I can not wait for Kathy to release her comedy on these housewives after next Thursday’s show on WWHL. It’s like a gift from Baby Jesus.

    Kathy’s Bravo special “From the Bible Belt.” was pretty good this week. It’s rerunning all weekend long. Highly recommend it for those that need a good laugh.

  24. Where the Garden Grows (not jill's yard, nothing wants to be in that dirt) says:

    Oh, hi Jill dirt.

  25. Matilda says:

    This dream will probably not come true, but I sooooooooo hope that somehow some way Jill Zaaaarin will get OFF the Real Housewives show! Loved Bethenny’s show, soooo nice, so fun and sooo refreshing! Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! :)))))

    • HousewifeInCurlers says:

      I don’t think Jill will be back on Housewives (even if by some crazy chance she is invited) she’s really burned a lot of bridges, and it’s clear from twitter that she is not friends with R, A or B anymore.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        agreed – she won’t be asked back because she just can’t stop being a toxic idiot.

  26. cusi77 says:

    I left a comment in Teresa’s blog… I was so inspired by MAMAZ ( kudos MAMAZ, you rock, girl!).

    As I know it is not going to be published, here it is…


    Pleased to read your blog!
    Adore your sense of humor!
    You are my fav…
    Your book is already in my kitchen…
    Oscar, my husband, adores puttanesca sauce!
    Using real tomatoes, makes a huge difference!
    Roasted chicken or plain boiled?
    Basil is better when fresh…
    I always love,
    Love you!
    Susan in Texas!

    • katiecoo says:

      Pay Your Bills! LOL!

    • Kat says:

      Teresa will “get it” if Bravo posts it. Way to go Cusi!

      • MAMAZ says:

        Fantastic Cusi! It’s better than mine. I will be checking Theresa’s blog all day to see if it posts.

    • error 404 says:

      puttanesca? does T make prostitution-whore sauce? spaghetti alla ho-bag?

    • SusanS88 says:

      Thanks for the chuckle Cusi! Great job 🙂

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Nice one.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Haha! Love it.

      I think we should right replies to Danielle in pig latin as well, it would seem so fitting.

      This is what I wrote- again I think they are probably hip to all of this. I tried to be a little more discrete with mine and write it in paragraph and not bullet form- but just take the first letter of each sentence and you get the picture.


      Another powerful blog, you always keep me wondering what you will say next. Never mind all the haters out there! Keep your chin up and don’t let them get to you. Really, it’s nobody’s business what you do in your private life. Until they have walked a mile in your shoes, who are they to judge! People can be so mean.

      Ta ta for now”

      • Rabble Rouser says:


        That should have been ‘write replies to..’, I get a little distracted sometimes with the kids running around.

  27. bethluvsben says:

    Hello peeps,
    In answer to all of your questions, The tag at the bottom of Jill’s BEAUTIFUL shoes was left purposely because everybody knows, that red soles stain wooden floors.
    As for Ben, BEN stands for……….I’ll tell you when LYNN tells us EXACTLY how Jill tried to prevent her and Silex’s “reception.”
    Ciao peeps,
    xoxoxoxo $$$$$$$

    • Kat says:

      I’m glad you are out of the closet Dan. Congrats.

    • katiecoo says:

      Wow, interesting. Just doing a cursory glance around cyberspace via Google, no one else seems to be indicating that the signature glossy red Louboutin soles stail wood floors. Seems a design flaw considering they run around $500 a pair and up.

    • katiecoo says:

      I know I’m obsessing about these shoes because I have always been drawn to those red soles back from SATC days (maybe though when a lady purchases them and gets 4 PR reps coaching her, she might get some “walking in platforms” lessons–girlfriend looked like a wrestler with that gait…just sayin).

      But why have the signature red sole that kind of highlights the designer and then cover it up with a white semi worn tag that is easily visible? Kind of defeats the purpose dontcha think?

      • anniieee says:

        running out of money… doesn’t want to scuff them…so she can take them back to SAKS…..

      • Stella says:

        Maybe she doesn’t know how to walk in them and so to keep from sliding she put some tape on soles?

        • error 404 says:

          especially a concern if your PR strategy is to walk out every time things get heated. One of the fab 4 must have thought of it… see good PR team! Nothing is worse than a staged walkout that includes a sip or stumble.

          • shantygal says:

            Thank goodness she wasn’t wearing skates.

          • Hooked On Housewives says:

            especially a concern if your PR strategy is to walk out every time things get heated. One of the fab 4 must have thought of it… see good PR team! Nothing is worse than a staged walkout that includes a sip or stumble.

            or a fall on your face….lol

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Yes, but if it wasn’t for that advise she may have taken the Kelly approach of sticking her fingers in her eyes and humming.

              If Jill’s PR team had any suss, they would have had her run off and return with jelly beans. They seemed to be magical and get people to back off.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        There are no tags on the soles when you purchase those shoes from a real store – they are there when you go to the outlet or discount stores.

    • boston02127 says:

      Knowing how cheap Jill is there probably from Payless and she has a can of red spray paint in her closet.

    • cusi77 says:

      With all that money to spend in a pair of shoes… Just one question, if you are in her inner circle, please ask her…

      Who the hell hate you so much and did your hair? YOU LOOKED LIKE A BUFFALO!

    • shantygal says:

      Awww, that’s cute. She really thinks we care who Ben is.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think Jill left the tag on her shoes because she is planning on returning them to the store. She doesn’t seem to have an issue with ‘borrowing’ cloths and returning them stained so I wouldn’t put this past her.

    • sbh says:

      why are you so desperate to know?

  28. anutha hata says:

    jillzarin.com and all of it’s pages is coming-up “account suspended” in my Firefox thingy.

    • katiecoo says:

      i got this:

      The site you are attempting to access is temporarily unavailable.
      If you are the site owner please contact your system administrator.

  29. felony stupid says:

    I’m still laughing from the viewer comment about Bethenny using heavy artillery when arguing w/Kelly. He/she said it was like using an uzi to kill a fly and I was laughing so hard I had to back up to catch Kelly’s reaction, which made me laugh even harder. She enthusiastically agreed that yes yes yes she IS just a fly – like somebody finally gets it!!

    My lord that girl is D U M B. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised she doesn’t recognize a metaphor when it hits her square in her big mug, but jeez. She seriously had no idea they were calling her stupid and no match for Bethenny. Even B was a little cautious about agreeing with this viewer’s question/comments because it was harsh…you can even hear Jill say “that’s mean!” Oh and brainiac Delusepps didn’t get it either since she went on to agree and compare Kelly to a little bunny who she warned would get slaughtered on Ramona’s trip.

    Just super telling….no matter what you say to some of these folks they don’t hear it. Kelly needs to find another way to bring home a paycheck – this reality show stuff ain’t working out for her.

    Jill needs to rewatch the entire season before opening her big mouth again. Just go sit down and stop…please.

    LOVE this blog. xoxo

    • katiecoo says:

      Well we all saw that boat/glam house footage. Miss Little Fly was more like a pit bull with wings…and jelly beans.

    • Jillousyness says:

      I loved how Kelly perked right up, smiled and said “I am a fly!”, not getting it as usual. When you think about it she is fly-like. Annoying, pesky, worthless, dirty, mindless, flitting back and forth……

      • anniieee says:

        wow great one Jillousyness–That is exactly what she reminds me of.

      • boston02127 says:

        I think Kelly thougth that was kind of cool like being called “fly girl”. Like J-Lo. Little did she know we were all thinking a fly like on a pile of poo.

      • patricia henderson says:

        eats shit…

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Kelly is the fly to Jill’s pig…….she was practically sitting on Jill’s stye, I mean lap.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Not to mention, a proclivity for shit.

      • Kotagirl says:

        I don’t know. I think she is more like a moth. She is drawn to the bright light (attention, cameras, conflict, Bethenny, etc), but because she is so stupid she ends ups “zapping” herself. It would be nice if after the zap she actually disappeared though.

        • teamb says:

          In medicine, a cathartic is a substance which accelerates defecation. This is in contrast to a laxative, which is a substance which eases defecation, usually by softening the stool. It is possible for a substance to be both a laxative and a cathartic. However, agents such as psyllium seed husks increase the…

          fly..poo… cathartic,,,get it..*wink wink?

    • HousewifeInCurlers says:

      Luann and Jill both know Kelly is an idiot. They’ve basically said so much last season on the reunion, and at that time they both said Kelly shouldn’t come back for another season. Now, they just needed her to have more people on their ‘side’…although I do think Luann only was on Jill’s side when she felt personally attacked by Mario and Bethenny. Now that she’s made up with them, she’s really just enjoying her own life (‘singing’, new boyfriend, etc).

      • mariareads says:

        Kelly is not only an idiot, she is a nasty piece of work. What a bitch she was to Alex. Cannot stand this woman. Next to Jill she is the worst kind of never grew up woman. Idiot. She is guilty as sin about the VI trip and she knows it. Can’t wait for Ramona to call her out and let her have it on the next show. As for Bethenny, the fact that Jill told people not to film with her seals the deal for me. Jill is a sick, pathetic, miserable bitch. She really needs mental help. Maybe as much as or more than Kelly.

        Loved the Bethenny Getting Married? show. Not because I am a tool but because it was funny, cute, seemed fairly real with the bickering and I think it suits her to have her own show. They may be able to carry this with a couple of other “regulars” showing up. And note to the mean girls of RHONY-B has OTHER friends and she don’t need no broken down Jill. Got it Zarin? Now go sell some fabric so you can buy some shoes that you won’t be returning. Better yet, buy shoes you can afford to keep, idiot.

    • error 404 says:

      Lulu sees Kiki as a child, in need of protection. I actually agree. She’s got, among other things, arrested development.

      Jill uses Kiki as a foot soldier, and Lulu perhaps is not down with that. As we saw, Kiki came back from VI like a Vietnam Vet exposed to agent orange. When Lulu first see Kiki, she spits out “did you have some sort of breakdown?” in a very “told you so!” kind of way.

  30. Alexa Rose says:

    If Jill doesn’t like somebody on the show, that’s fine if she doesn’t want to be their friend. Just look at Bethenny & Kelly: no one is rooting for a reconciliation there. Jill brought up that B told the housewives in the past not to film with Kelly. First, B owns up to this and does not feign to have forgotten. Two, B and Kelly were never friends; it’s not as if B was backstabbing one of her closest friends.

    I don’t get why Jill is attacking fans of the show, particularly Lynn. I’m not saying that I would not cry/be mad if I found a site that states they hate you in the title. But for the most part, this site was created to discuss the episodes and any housewives tweets and posts related to it. If Bravo would not screen 99% of the comments and it were more comment-friendly, perhaps this site would not have the following it does. Jill’s reaction to this blog really has only added fuel to the fire. The fact that Jill claims that someone on this site put her address out in the internet is ludicrous–she listed her place for sale online with pictures, layouts, and the address! (A very easy and popular Google search as of late.) I don’t condone people sending threatening mail or email, but I’m not sure how threatening the mail actually was. I personally think the mail just says that her behavior this season (and in the past ones, too) is so high school (of course, this is the most polite way of putting it). If she is receiving serious death threats, then that is not okay and those people need to stop. But has Jill considered the possibility that her #1 fan Susan Saunders might be writing this mail? In other words, that the threatening mail is a hoax?

    Jill, while there is little you can do to completely redeem yourself, there is a lot you can do to move forward and put this behind you. I’m not saying that you’ll ever regain your fan base, but people will appreciate the good in you if you show them it’s there. You have not committed a crime, rather you have been an evil friend. While most people may not have been as bad of a friend as you (or maybe worse), we all have our demons and moments we are not proud of. I think the first thing you ought to do is quit bashing the cast mates you don’t like and the fans of this site. Don’t think you can outsmart your cast mates and fans with white (eh, not so white) lies. People forgive and forget things if they think you will change. But you claim that you cannot change who you are, so please reconsider.

    • MAMAZ says:

      You’re but don’t hold your breath. Jill has no intention of changing who she is. She just wants to change who we think she is.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Did that make sense? It’s early! She wants to manipulate us to change our opinion of her without really changing.

    • error 404 says:

      They all like to make fun of each other, and put each other down, but after 3 seasons you can see who actually is a goof business woman and who isn’t.

      Ramona’s bklyn bridge attack on Bethenny was one of the meanest things anyone has ever said to anyone, EVER. And Ramona was not popular after the first 2 seasons. But, she managed to survive all that, to turn it all around, and to have people all over the web writing stuff like “I’m shocked I like Ramona now! I used to hate her, but now I find myself liking her.”

      Jill, OTOH, has spun so much spin in so many different directs, she’s just come off as a loose cannon at best. She’s become a study in how NOT to rebuild a damaged rep. She’s now an example in PR 201 classes, “how bad damage control can make it worse”.

      • shantygal says:

        Spot on, muh friend.

      • pfinfl says:

        Okay…my take on Ramona this season:

        She wanted to change because of her Dad. I believe ALL of that! She went in with that thinking but couldn’t handle it with all the in-fighting….she let everyone (except Alex) have it…then stood back and realized what Jill was doing to everyone and thought Whoa!! What’s going on? Decided she was tired of putting up with it. Tried but after seeing how Jill was treating everyone…including her…she chose a team! I don’t know if she will be as close to Jill after this season. I really think Ramona tries to stay out of it. She gives her opinion, no matter what. But, she is NOT putting up with Jill’s meaness.

    • SusanS88 says:

      Alexa Rose, you make a very good point here “Two, B and Kelly were never friends; it’s not as if B was backstabbing one of her closest friends.”

      And that is exactly the sum of the difference with the J and B situtation! They were the best of friends, yet J tried to “slay” her best friend all because of jealousy. We all see it. We all agree it’s disgusting!

      • Robin says:

        @Error ..Your post reminded me of something that Kelly said concerning Ramona..

        When they were saying that Ramona said mean things to people Kelly said something to the effect..”She is scary because you never know what she is going to say”..Hmm pot meet kettle much?


  31. Kat says:

    Jill started out this season very smug and with an agenda.
    From the first episode she tried to make Bethenny look like shallow person and an ungrateful friend.
    Now we know the falling out between them had nothing to do with Bobby but was in fact about Jill’s jealousy of Bethenney’s new show and success.

    Jill never anticipated that her fans would flee when they saw her treatment of Bethenney. Then there is her hateful treatment of Alex and her disrespect of Ramona.

    Bethenney says that the show has gone to Jill’s head in this last season but that Jill is a good person. Now that’s charitable, Kelly take a note!

    Jill needs to get a grip on her ego, find some humility, and accept the fact that she has been beaten and exposed by none other than herself.

    • Jillousyness says:

      Exactly! Good take on it all.

      • anniieee says:

        You know the funny thing that has bothered me all season is that EVERYONE, with the exception of Alex-made fun of Kelly last season. Kelly was pissed over the Madonna incident–and then the your up here , etc….etc.. But at the start of this season, Kelly and Bethenny were ok–seemed they had tried to be polite–then the Jillzilla gets involved. And it becomes “b did this, b said that…etc. Kelly vomits Jill’s comments like a little sister would, who idolizes her big sister and wants to be just like her. Unfortunately-it has totally backfired – we see it- BRAS sees it and LuMan does as well. Only Kelly is in the dark, eating her JellyBeans.

        • pfinfl says:

          What bothered me about Kelly was when Jill would sit and talk about Bethenny….she would look straight at Jill…ears open! But if Alex or the other housewives said that Jill was missing a good time…she would lalala…not take part in gossiping!

        • Alexa Rose says:

          Bethenny said it best when they were on the yacht and Kelly put herself in timeout: Kelly is perfect for Jill [extend arms out like a zombie/robot].

  32. Jenni says:

    Loved your blog. Wanted to comment on your statement:

    “I don’t know what it is but it seems like any dispute or disagreement that Alex has with anyone, I tend to believe Alex! When it comes to this nonsense that Zarin is spewing about Alex trying to put lies in the press about Jill….I don’t believe it for one second!”

    I think “what it is”, is character. From her actions, we can tell that Alex has a sense of honor, emphathy, morals, etc. Also, what she had said at one time is true, you can see what she is thinking on her face, she does not have a good poker face, everything shows.

    While Alex would not be very successful at lying due to her morals and expressive face and body language, Jill is not successful at lying because, well, let’s face it- she isn’t very smart. It takes a very good memory and a lot of mental power to a good liar to keep up with with they have said in the past and make up a good cover for their lies on the spur of the moment when confronted on them.

    Two things (that I can remember) that stuck me last night: Kelly and Lynn from the OC look an awful lot alike, and Kelly is so over LuAnne. The eye rolling when LuAnne made yet another one of her little digs on Kelly’s intellegence was so telling. Kelly has caught on to LuAnne’s ways of putting her down right to her face!

    • Kat says:

      I agree with you that Alex is believable.
      She just presents herself as genuine.
      Jill can’t pass the smell test.
      I don’t think I could deal with her face to face (lying and denying it) without reaching out and touching her cheek with my palm going 90 miles an hour.

      • Jenni says:

        I so wish I could do the funny snark as well as you and Bethenny!

      • Jenni says:

        Oh my, just so there is no possible misunderstanding, that was meant as the highest possible compliment I can possible give…

        • Kat says:

          Jenni, thank you.
          There are so many here that write so well yourself included, but I am not one of the better posters.

          I know what I want to say in a post but often times only half a thought gets written while the other half stays in head. The post will make perfect sense to me…but only me. I hate when I do that. 8)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Looked to me that Kelly had problems focusing on the Q&A – she looked detached, bored and started the hair playing, dress adjusting early in the taping. Since she doesn’t pay attention she doesn’t react in real time. It looks like she wanted to defend Jill but none of her trigger words came up and her blank stare or hyena smile was all she had to offer.

  33. Jenni says:

    Oh, sorry, forgot to ask in my last post:

    What is going on with Jill’s statements about someone dissing Bobby and Ally? I have no idea what she is reffering to! HELP!

    • NYCer says:

      Jill said she would have made up with Bethenny off camera – Bethenny was saying why that? You put Bobby’s cancer diagnosis and Ally’s weight loss on camera….
      That is what she is calling a diss

      • Jenni says:

        OOOOOHHHHH, Thank you! I NEVER would have been able to figure that out on my own.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Bethenny was talking about priorities – we all have them too! She was also talking about sincere relationships vs media sympathy (cancer is bad, painful childhood diseases are painful).

  34. MAMAZ says:

    Hi everyone. I couldn’t get on last night. It was frustrating.
    Lynn – Thanks for showing us JZ’s tweets. She would like the viewer to believe she’s changed but her treatment of Alex was just as bitchy as her treatment of Bethenny.
    And now we see that she is STILL slamming B in spite of her miraculous change of heart.

    Alex was great. She is DONE with Jill. I don’t think there is anything JZ can do that would make Silex ever be friends with her short of saving their children from a burning building. However, I can’t believe I’m defending sKelly but she was right about the article Alex brought up. They did ask Kelly what advice she would give B and she said she wouldn’t advise B then made a couple of general statements about motherhood. What they need to point out instaed is the way she trashes her on Twitter and on the show itself. Calling her a predator, etc. I think they’ll get to it Mon or Thur.

    I don’t think Jill’s statement about Kelly needing to make money for her kids was intended as a dig. Jill just doesn’t know how to speak. What she meant to say was Kelly is just trying to earn a living to support her family. But my answer would be do what the rest of us do and GET A JOB! One that doesn’t require you to humiliate yourself and those same poor kids.

    Loved B getting married! How cute is Cookie? What kind of dog is she?
    Did you notice B said she might be back on RHONJ , that it depended on the cast? I don’t think she meant Jill. She said she is more afraid of Kelly than DAnielle so I’m sure she means it’s Kelly or her.

    • Jenni says:

      So Jill understands Kelly is living in (whereever) and trying to make a living in today’s economy, but not so much when it comes to Alex. What a difference (whereever) and Brookland makes!

      • error 404 says:

        Kiki lives in the Bowery, a very famous slum that has been gentrified with a lot of pseudo hipsters moving in to designer highrises. Kiki’s building was one of the first and is very famous.. an old police headquarters that was turned into luxury condos back in the 80s. Cher used to live there.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill doesn’t get that Alex isn’t and doesn’t want to be her friend! Jill was trying to tell Bethenny she wants to mend their friendship and shots get fired at Alex….because she can’t shoot them at Bethenny! Everyone is thinking the same thing (except Kelly, who’s brain is idling in neutral) – who would want to be friends with Jill?

  35. Margo Channing says:


    Jill wears moldy green CFMP’s with Chiffon. Oy gevault didn’t that Sr. Yenta teach you anything? I would have loved for the camera to REALLY follow Kooklit off stage, she had the stagger going on! Ramona was fab, Bethenny, I do not know where that inner power comes from but she rocked, the dress? not so much..smooch B! Alex, I felt totally exposed the selfish and psychotic personality of JiZ when JiZ had nothing to say she would start throwing aimless accusations back at Alex but would not give FAACTS!! I fell into fits of laughter when in previews Ramona goes after Luman for her constant Wilma Flinstone dresses! Too funny. All in all not bad entertainment, but we all know next week will shake, rattle and roll!!!

  36. Search the Web on Snap.com says:

    There has been dissing of Bobby. I dis him. He started defending Jill and taking sides in the war that Jill started. We know he is manipulated by sex because Bravo showed up the show buying trip. Our observations are based on what Bravo showed us.

    People on some site have dissed Ally. She’s collateral damage in Jill’s war on Bethenny and Alex. I feel sorry for Ally because she has Jill for a mother and she suffers because of that.

    Jill has personally attacked Alex’s kids. That is direct damage from on of Jill’s bombing runs.

    I am done with Jill. There is no redemption for someone that vile.

  37. HousewifeInCurlers says:

    Actually, surprisingly, there really is no truth to Simon’s tweet that they are trying to get viewers for New Jersey. The Jersey show has been getting Bravo their best Monday ratings ever, from what I’ve read. Last week they hit a record. Not sure why, but I guess people just love all things housewives…

    • just sayin' says:

      Really? Do you have a source because I tried to look that up yesterday. I am not doubting you but I was sure they were on the road to cancellation due to being boring and unwatchable but could not find anything to prove or disprove my hypothesis…looks like you have :). I hate being wrong but I will put on my big girl panties and deal with it….thanks in advance.

    • RAR says:

      He was being sarcastic. I think he was impressed by the ratings for a not-very-important episode of that show.

  38. boston02127 says:

    Lynn, On the previous blog I posted: Life as a Viewer of NYC Housewives.
    I hope that blog didn’t come off as insulting or mean in any way. I wrote it with humorous intentions. I really meant it when I said that it was a little sad that the
    show is coming to an end. For myself, I’ve enjoyed coming here so much that I’ve been putting things off to come here to read blogs. You’ve allowed us a voice and in doing so we’ve met friends along the way.
    Sometimes I write like I speak and things come out wrong, which I try to correct everyday. I’m hoping that nothing came off as nasty or insulting because there were no harmful intentions what so ever.

    • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

      Your post was very funny and described my experience to a T! (In fact I called my daughter and read her the whole thing – laughing at how accurate it was.)

      Can’t imagine how it could offend – keep posting!

      • anniieee says:

        Oh me too Boston…. Laundry is piling up… I can write in the dust..and food is rotting in the fridge, cause I am forgetting to eat. It was a fabulous post!!

    • Kat says:

      Your post was very funny! I read Lynn’s blog post as tongue in cheek.
      Good Morning Boston 😉
      I too spend a lot of time here. I enjoy it. I can visit with people and not worry what I look like at the moment or if the house is presentable.

    • shantygal says:

      Knock it off Boston, we love you and you know it. Kisses. (Sent from my blackhairy)

  39. CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

    On a slightly different topic – does it bother anyone else that they call each other “girls”? I get the mean girl references, and Alex certainly nailed it – but I am in the same age group as these women, and my friends and I don’t call each other girls – except for the odd “Girls Night Out” or “Girls weekend”, I would never say that my BFF is a “great girl” – more likely I would say she is an amazing woman!

    Anyway, still trying to wrap my head around all the drama we saw last night. I think B said it best about Jill – the fame went to her head and took her over the top. And I can’t remember exactly what she said, but Kelly’s response seemed disjointed (duh) …

    The previews of Ramona going off look scary. When I was watching the rerun of Scary Island yesterday, when they were having their first luncheon and Ramona was attempting to tell the other women about what had happened when she informed Jill that B’s father had died, didn’t she say it had happened like two days before the trip? Remember how Jill went off on her about that? That means that JZ’s over the top response to her “friend of 15 years” kicking her off the island was less than a week later…. how could JZ put it on Ramona, then? I mean, JZ was hatefully telling her “you are not my friend”. In that light, Ramona was more than kind and gentle and diplomatic as she kicked her off – I would have gone off on her for being so presumptuous after her scene the week before….

    Good Morning, Everyone!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I think Ramona is trying to give Jill a demonstration of how to say she is sorry by acknowledging she shit on all of them at one time or another and then ask for forgiveness. Ramona is a firecracker and she is getting tired of Jill’s spinning everything around.

    • sbh says:


  40. Search the Web on Snap.com says:

    About Jill trying to stop the Chicago reception…

    My guess that Jill contacted Simon may be correct. I have no relationship with Lynn or anyone who went, but I guessed that Jill contacted Simon and tried to stop the meeting. Jill contact husbands, as we all know. She does not have the same values that Bethenny has in that regard. She plays a husband against a wife all of the time. Look at the Mario fight as a way to harm her good friend, Ramona. Women, like Alex and most of us, tend to seeth when a woman tries to manipulate the man in our lives.
    We see it as an interference in our relationship with the man and a violation of trust with that other woman. Bobby did not allow Bethenny to enter that zone in the discussion when no one wanted Jill on the island. He stated that he would not be in the middle. Jill’s zone of trust is protected while she violates Alex’s zone and tries to violate Bethenny’s zone by going to Jason several times in attempts to manipulate Bethenny.

    I was going to watch Bethenny’s show today because I was exhausted last night, but it was so interesting that I stayed up and laughed. Bethenny is the real deal . She is damaged and trying to survive. She hates gatherings, but does the work and holds the gathering when he doesn’t show up. Cookie is a star and she can easily replace Jill Zarin in the costarring position in the new series. I am even getting used to Bethenny’s urination habits. It kinda reminds me of the barn so it may be easier for me than some of the viewers.

    I’m glad that Bethenny is going to a therapist. We could all use one. I think it will help her evolve as we all should try to change for the better every day. Her stress load is enough to cause neuron damage in the most stable of Humans.

    Bethenny’s show will be a huge success. She doens’t need to go into the sauna with Luann, Kelly and Jill.

    I actually am interested in Kathy Griffin’s oberservations next Thurs. I don’t care for her show (Rosie O’Donell mooned Kathy’s boat in Miami Beach on one show and that’s too much for me,) but Kathy is honest and you won’t get Jill spin from her.

    Thanks, Lynn and fellow posters. I don’t bother with Bravo discussion sites because I know that I will get the good links and all of the information here.

  41. boston02127 says:


  42. Obsessed with RH says:

    It was nauseating to watch Jill kiss Bethenny’s ass yesterday because it was so obviously insincere. If you watched Jill’s face while others were talking or while they were showing clips of the fight between her and Bethenny, her face wasn’t remorseful at all. Her PR people really suck at their jobs because the “strategy” of crying and just trying to kiss Bethenny’s ass really didn’t work. Honestly though, if I had to deal with her or Kelly coming back I’d take Jill because at least I can compartmentalize her into the materialistic, narcissitic, label whore, gold-digging yenta. Every time I see Kelly I feel like I’ve descended into the 7th circle of hell and I just don’t want her to have a platform to even SPEAK. I feel like she’s a rabid dog who mutters things to herself while frothing at the mouth at the sight of Bethenny. I pray that next week Andy forces her to come forward with her “proof” of the so-called “facts” of Bethenny putting her family in the press. Her stupid one-sentence nonsensical fortune cookie lines infuriate me to no end. I pray that Bravo realizes that she needs to be kicked OFF the show and never given a public platform again. Luckily her “beauty” has begun to fade so that aspect of her life of being in the public eye is coming to an end. One can only hope…

    • Jillousyness says:

      Hahaha! Excellent description! – “I feel like she’s [Kelly] a rabid dog who mutters things to herself while frothing at the mouth at the sight of Bethenny.” Don’t forget Alex. Kelly called her out by name a couple of times. You could see Jill’s handwriting all over Kelly’s psyche with those attacks. Jill hates Alex with a passion and doesn’t feel like she deserves to breathe the same air as her and wants her off the show – stat.

  43. Quincy IL says:

    Somehow my name was changed to search the web on snap.com

    I am Quincy IL….

    The mysteries of cyberspace… I think Jill did it.

  44. Olivia says:

    Jill Zarin validated what many of us surmised about this season’s drama: that her jealously of Bethenny’s success was what drove her insane.

    She is reported to have indicated to Bethenny that her involvement on the show was due in large part to Jill’s pushing for her to have a place there. Therefore, in Jill’s warped sense of loyalty, Bethenny “owed” her. In surpassing Jill as the “star”, she instead became the enemy and Jill went to great lengths to create a scenario that would show Bethenny to be the “bad guy” and covered the real reason by insisting that she had turned her back on Jill and Bobby in their mutual “hour of need”. What became apparent over the season was that Bobby’s ailment was not as horrific as Jill would have everyone believe since she was photographed all last summer having a gay old time in the Hamptons, showing up as an audience member at DWTS, and making a walk on appearance in CA during one of Kathy Griffin’s shows. Not exactly the portrait of an anxiety driven wife.

    Bethenny was correct. Jill let the attention go to her head, considered herself a “star”, and felt she had the right to sabotage her employer, Bravo in this case, by acting against them in trying to get her castmates to refuse filming with Bethenny in order to bring her down. Make believe tears and fake outrage began to unravel when the viewer was shown her true colors by dissing Bethenny at every opportunity when Bethenny was making every effort to make amends. This is what eventually led to her downfall with the audience as something more sinister began to emerge.

    Jill has shown repeatedly that she is just not a nice person. When you set out a campaign to “destroy” and malign another person the audience becomes aware and backs off any sympathy she tried to elicit. Her campaign has now shifted to Alex which is not a good move. Alex has done nothing to merit that vitriol since she has shown over the course of 3 seasons to be the most balanced and the one least interested in bashing another cast member unlike the others.

    She has created drama backstage at Bravo with her shenanigans and has attempted to bring her allies, Lu Ann and Kelly, into the fray and it backfired. We don’t at this point know the depths of what she was capable of since some of this stuff is being parceled out but if what we have seen so far is indicative of her character, it is probably correct to assume that the Bravo staff hates her as much as we do.

    • Kat says:

      I feel bad for anyone in Jill’s crosshairs. It must be exhausting trying to deflect and correct her lies and media manipulations.

      • anniieee says:

        I think Alex is a lovely, hip, creative and intelligent mom, who was dismissed the first season by a lot of us. We have gotten to see all the dimensions of her character this season and have fallen in love with her “hives”, her loyalty, her depth of character and her sense of humor. Jill picked the wrong housewife to fight with–as usual–and her attack is going to turn into Jill eating her own feet. It has made the audience even more resentful and more antagonistic towards her. What a nasty piece of work.

      • fairydusted says:

        I had a JZ in my life for way too long so. I grew up much like Bethenny so even though that might taint my views a bit. Those type of friendships can really drain your soul.

    • eye2try says:

      outstanding account Olivia! Brava!

    • error 404 says:

      I think it’s possible that once B got her own show, with Jason, that J decided he didn’t want Jill on the show. Jill had recommended B for RHNY, but was now being shut out off the spin off.

      The problem is, like with everything else, Jill’s reaction is 100 times worse than the crime.

      For ex: Alex’s message was pretty OTT, and had Jill just let Alex’s action speak foe themselves, she’s be in a better place and Alex would have gotten a lot more grief for the inappropriate etiquette breech.

      Instead, Jill made a lemonade out of a mole hill… crying for 3 episodes, getting everyone but the gardener to reprimand Alex, being fake nice like a teenager, etc… if she’d just let it slide, she’d be sitting on a reunion couch listening to an appollogy from Alex as she tries to answer viewer’s question about why she delivered such a message.

      Likewise, she’d have gotten a lot more sympathy that B had used her and discarded her when she was no longer needed, if she hadn’t stayed up late nights plotting the worlds worst revenge plot ever. To the victor go the spoils, and Jill would have done a lot better had she not attempted her ill fated war against B, a war she was sure to lose. Like Monte Carlo waging war with Russia… when it comes to public opinion, B has nuclear missiles, Jill has a blow torch.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bethenny was trying to give her a legitimate excuse for her behavior – being star struck – Jill didn’t buy the clue. Bethenny will continue to give her every smooth opportunity to change public perception but Jill will not get it. Bethenny is media saavy (a good thing) and she knows that every bit of Jill’s page 6, NY Post crap is just making her stock rise! She will not come out and totally end her relationship with Jill because it will make her look bad and she doesn’t need or want that to happen.

  45. Olivia says:

    I hope that Lu Ann gets what she has coming from Ramona as well. Lu Ann wanted “credit” for referring to Ramona as “Crazy Eyes” in that scene with Sonja and Kelly when they were having drinks on Long Island.

    When Ramona referenced the one shoulder dress last night she knew exactly what she was doing. She may feel a sense of “renewal” but some of the real Ramona lingers yet.

    Calling out that horse’s ass Lu Ann out for her pretentiousness and condescending attitude was priceless!

  46. Tmoco23 says:

    Great blog! I mean, I have NEVER gotten into a television show this deeply before, and your blog and twitter posts are a big part of that. I never am one to choose sides/ recruit people for my point of view, but I must side with the LEFT couch 100%! lol! (I wonder if Sonja pleaded w/ Andy to sit on that side?)

    It always seems as if JillZilla doesn’t know that she is outclassed in every way, no matter how “NY Socialite” and LOUD she makes her voice. Suggestion for Jill’s new hobby: reading BOOKS not written by anyone on a reality show. (I suggest “Of Mice and Men”) I pity her, but I really don’t care what she does w/ her life. Therefore, she may exit , stage left, of RHONY, in my opinion. 🙂

    Kelly. She is just sad to watch. I TRY so hard to see her point of view, but it never really seems to have a focus. 😦 It is probably b/c she has no personality besides the “ignorant/crazy” angle. Meh.

    Can’t wait for the rest of the reunion! 😀

  47. boston02127 says:

    Jill is all over the map. The past couple of days she was in hiding from people threating her with cards. It was SO SERIOUS. What happen to her making a HUGH thing over that? (not that I care) Bobby’s cancer, the get a hobby thing, Alex
    Jill needs to confront one thing at a time. If she would just confront HERSELF and realize she’s the mean witch to everyone maybe her life would get a little better.

    • anniieee says:

      She is having panic attacks–trying to figure out and defend her dispeciable actions all seasons. Bawwby is probably worried that she is having a nervous breakdown.

  48. desertgal66 says:

    Great blog, Lynn! And don’t worry about keeping certain things confidential – we all respect that.

    Part 1 was…interesting.

    First off, I have to say that Kelly’s interview about Bethenny and motherhood did NOT contain any Bethenny bashing. It was mostly gibberish about breast feeding, rainbows, unicorns, lollipops, etc. I’m guessing that Alex may have confused that interview with another, because Kelly HAS bashed Bethenny in the press. But, Kelly was telling the truth when she said that she didn’t bash Bethenny in that specific interview. (Not that I’m usually up for defending Kellamity, but she was being honest.)

    Jill’s “I have changed, and tonight you will see it”…well, really, Jill? You’ve changed? That’s interesting, because your Tweets and your actions in the press in recent days since the reunion was filmed reveal the same narcissistic, vindictive behavior.

    All I can say is that Bethenny, Alex, and Ramona held their ground, and I thought they did great.

    I’m also baffled by this Tweet of Jill’s:
    Just because you say it ALEX doesn’t make it true!! You tried to bash my family and I have PROOF. about 5 hours ago via web

    What’s your PROOF, Jillsie? But, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Jill does have proof that Alex tried to bash Jill’s family. Has Jill forgotten that she has raked Alex and Simon over the coals in the press and on the show for the last three years? She’s criticized their house, their children, their fashions, their marriage, their jobs, etc, etc. It’s disgusting, as usual, that Jill is going to play victim about this now.

    As for Kelly…well, I really do believe that she has mental and emotional issues. But, she’s also a snotty, arrogant, vapid hypocrite. I’m sorry if she has problems, but I can’t stand her.

    I wish Jill and Kelly would get up, walk off the set…and just keep walking.

    • anniieee says:


    • Kat says:

      Desertgal66, after reading your post and Lynn’s blog post about Jill’s tweets and comments in the press since the reunion I can only assume she feels she has nothing to lose. I think she got her butt whipped by BRA+S the entire 3 reunion episodes (for 8 hours).
      This makes me happy. 8)

    • vdaze says:

      I think Alex’s response to Kelly about the motherhood article was after Kelly insisted that she’s never, ever even mentioned Bethenny’s name in the press…EVER. Or some equally outrageous lie. I’m going to re-watch the reunion tonight, but I’m almost certain that’s what was said.

  49. desertgal66 says:

    MAMAZ says:
    June 11, 2010 at 5:44 am

    I don’t think Jill’s statement about Kelly needing to make money for her kids was intended as a dig. Jill just doesn’t know how to speak. What she meant to say was Kelly is just trying to earn a living to support her family. But my answer would be do what the rest of us do and GET A JOB!

    I love you, MamaZ! I was thinking the same thing…if Kelly needs money, she should GET A JOB! Besides, I believe someone mentioned on a previous blog that Bravo only pays the housewives about $3,000 a month – which wouldn’t go far in NYC, so Jill’s reasoning is illogical.

    On a side note, watching Kelly last night was like watching someone set on the wrong speed.

    • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

      The $3K a month was what Teresa from NJ claimed on her bankruptcy filing. The NY housewives make much more, I believe – I read somewhere that it was $10K an episode, and somewhere else that it was $400K a year…. Anyone really know?

      I think what Alex meant when she said that she was ” in Brooklyn, dealing with this economy and trying to make a living” was that her family actually needs the income from this gig and that JZ was threatening (by trying to get her off the show) that in a very real way.

      • Tmoco23 says:

        If I were a housewife, I would keep what I made per show under LOCK AND KEY!!! And I agree on your comment about Alex’s rationale- Jill was starting to mess with MONEY and that is one thing you do NOT mess with for a mother of two. 😡

        AND a repost of what I said in an earlier blog (RHONJ related):


        Wow, she is just GIVING away a lot the material that they could use for the reunion show. Be sure to click the “see more answers” button- more than once. I gathered that she is basically saying Dina is gone, calling Danielle’s DAUGHTER, Christine, a whore, that Danielle was fcuking Danny and caused his divorce, etc. O_O smh/ JUICY DETAILS just made RHONJ interesting for the first time this season. lol!

        • Olivia says:

          Ashley is a prime example of “no child left behind” because she sure is backward. What’s with all the “Ha Ha’s” she injects into almost every post?

          This is a girl in desperate need of a job, an education, a motivation to get off her butt and off Twitter. She is the ultimate moron!

        • Kat says:

          Wow. Ashley talked for hours…. says Danielle broke up Danny Pro’s marriage, among other things. She is nasty towards Christine.

          She really might consider finding something constructive to do with her time.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          NOTHING that child says should be repeated much less believed.

      • RAR says:

        I have to disagree Cuckoo. I think what Alex was saying is that she is living in the real world in Brooklyn. I think she considers the show very secondary. Whereas this Jill is living is total denial of what real life is, and this show is more important to her than what should be.

  50. vilzvet says:

    katiecoo, thanks for the twitter heads-up for RitaFarbulous! She is hilarious, another GingerZarin for sure! Love her photo collage!

  51. Carriesweets says:

    What a great Blog, Lynn!
    I was SO proud of Alex!! I can tell that B and her have grown into good friends, you can totally tell b/c Alex defended B! You can also clearly see there is a division between the Housewives, Bethenny, Alex, Ramona on one side….. Kelly, LuAnn, and Jill on the other…. and it also looks to me like Sonja will be joining the good team when she joins the cast later. We all know who the “good team” is. : )
    Lynn… I have been wanted to start my own blog for a long time… any suggestions on how to start? I really need some help… I have a MySpace acct., but I really don’t mesh with the crowd that hangs there. LOL
    I’m off to work, so I will have to check the Bethenny blog later… but love ya, Lynn! I hope you have a great Friday! xo

  52. Delia says:

    Fantabulous recap as usual…right on the mark too!!

  53. Olivia says:

    Two good things happened within the last 24 hours:

    1. Theresa is being forced to sell that overpriced home in NJ.
    2. Jill got her ass kicked last night.

    Both events were worth waiting for. The only thing that could top them now would be for Bravo to out and out cancel the hideousness of the NJ franchise and the other would be for Bravo to drop Jill from anymore broadcasts.

    What goes around, comes around…..

    • Wow, that is great news. Thanks for sharing, Olivia! 🙂

    • Tmoco23 says:

      Sorry to repost this again (I’m done!)- but I wanted to make sure some RHONJ fans saw this. 🙂
      A must read:

      Wow, she is just GIVING away a lot the material that they could use for the reunion show. Be sure to click the “see more answers” button- more than once. I gathered that she is basically saying Dina is gone, calling Danielle’s DAUGHTER, Christine, a whore, that Danielle was fcuking Danny and caused his divorce, etc. O_O smh/ JUICY DETAILS just made RHONJ interesting for the first time this season. lol!

    • cusi77 says:

      “Happy wife… debt for life” is having a reality check? Wow!

    • vilzvet says:

      So far she has not mentioned anything in her twitters…wonder when the house became listed? There goes her dream house…where will they go? Doubtful they can build another home from scratch, so Teresa may have to slum in a previously owned home. Supposedly the surrounding area only tops out at $800-900K so this McMansion will be hard to market.

      • RAR says:

        She denied the house was for sale on Twitter this morning… something like “for all you planning to move in with me…” or something like that.

        • vilzvet says:

          What a crock of crap! How can that real estate listing be faked? It included six pics and the listing price…she’s delusional…she’s just embarassed because of all the book signings she has to go to and wants to avoid fan questions…

  54. Judy says:

    How funny was it when Kelly wanted Ramona to apologize for calling her stupid?

    • HD says:

      Right. Who apologizes for telling the truth? LOL!

      • shantygal says:

        I noticed Ales & Kelly were the only ones who didn’t say, “Sorry, I didn’t mean that, it came out wrong”. Alex only said she was sorry about the way she delivered the message, not the message itself. She didn’t have to back track on anything else because she only said what she meant. Same for Kelly, she doesn’t apologize because she means to say the horrible things she does say.

  55. Olivia says:

    Kelly channeling Forest Gump. Jill with the Minnie Mouse shoes. Lu Ann as Nurse Ratched. Andy the tennis lineman. Alex the truth teller. Ramona lying in wait. Bethenny the maligned.

    Does it get any better than this?

  56. boston02127 says:

    I think I need to redirect my hate. Jill is pretty much beaten down, which is what I wanted. There’s no going back for her. She can’t un-ring a bell, she’s done.

    LuAnn~I think if you had LuAnn on your side she’d be a good friend, if you could tolerate her snotty ways. She’s not very thick skinned or street smart but I do believe when she apologizes to someone she means it and I think she accepts apologies from others. Without Jill, I don’t think LuAnn knows how to be mean. She’s pretty much a follower.

    Kelly~~Hate hate hate her. Since Kelly seems to think she’s ok after her mental breakdown I say she’s fair game to pick on. I think Kelly has had her ass wiped for her most of her life. Remember when she first started on the show and called Bethenny to meet her. When she told Bethenny “I’m up here and you’re down there”. That is the REAL Kelly.
    Kelly’s first wake up call in life was thanks to Bethenny laughing off her nasty words.

    The helpless poor me act Kelly pulls is not flying with me at all. Kelly is nasty, sneaky and kniving. She’s proven herself to be an unfit selfish mother. She a 42 year old washed up model with nothing to fall back on now her looks have faded.

    • anniieee says:

      I hate hate hate her too… I want to slap the dirt out of her hair. She is dumber that a rock and has big problems. Still can’t believe she was ever ever married–Gilles must not be the brightest brick in the wall… She is a parrot of Jill’s without an original thought in her head. My granddaughter (7) can cook pancakes.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kinda been thinking the same thing about Jill. LuAnn has never been a fav of mine and my dislike for her grows with every show.

    • BamaBelle says:


      I couldn’t have said it better myself! This is EXACTLY what Kelly is. I have never, not for one minute, bought her “helpless, innocent, ACT. She’s just as mean as Jill, she just does things in a different way.

      Sometimes I wonder if Kelly is on drugs… the “cat pee” remark Sonja made, plus… did you see the woman’s freaking eyes? They didn’t look right at all to me. And why would somebody, anybody… act that way? I don’t believe it was because she drank too much wine, PULEEESE!

      I really don’t understand why Bravo keeps her? Now that Bethenny has moved on to her new show, there won’t be that Kelly-Bethenny tension, nor will Kelly have the need to be Jill’s “attack dog”.

      Even if Bethenny stays on NY… I still don’t see how Kelly fits in, especially since they have Sonja. You would think Bravo would be afraid Kelly would have another “moment” and hurt someone. She did assault an ex-boyfriend (after getting advice from Jill Zarin)… for which Kelly was sentenced to community service.

  57. Olivia says:

    I looked but was unable to see where Jill hid the shovel as she kept digging her own hole.

  58. Olivia says:

    In rewatching some of the past episodes listen to Jill explain herself to others. She is always having ” a bad day, a bad month, a bad summer” which is supposed to excuse her behavior.

    What constitutes a “good day” for Jill anyway? For someone who boasts such a “fabulous life” you would think one good day would be able to sneak in every now and then. But listening to her she is either having a bad day or she is “pissed” at something or someone.

    Life must be so exhausting for this poor woman!

    • error 404 says:

      Kiki’s not the only one with “issues”.

      Thinking about… She lashed out at Ramona because Ally had started the first day of her last year in HS? Jill is so co-dependant that a far off warning sign of empty-nest syndrome will cause her to not be evil and mean? What is she going to do when Ally does leave for college, burn down Ramona’s house?

      the woman’s unhinged.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Blank excuse – Jill has a bad life!

  59. HD says:

    Watching the Reunion online and Kelly just does not have a dog in this fight. She can’t hang with these women. I am torn every time I look at her…should I feel sorry for her or continue to dislike her because she is so stupid?

  60. Jill’s website is back up and she posted this with some lies thrown in. As always, Jill is full of excuses. It’s laughable! 🙂

    Reunion Part 1 LIVE BLOG IS BACK!!

    Thu, Jun 10, 2010

    Featured, Jill’s Blog, Latest News

    Here we go! Everyone looks great! ( I have to much blush! But I took some off later!)
    Alex…I am in Brooklyn? Made no sense…she made no sense! I did nothing to her to deserve her mouth. Maybe she was worried Jen Gilbert was replacing her? After all…she has 3 small kids, works and lives a fabulous life? We were in Jen’s house…Alex saw the writing on the wall. She keeps saying I am in high school. Really…ever see a mirror? The show is high school. Let’s be honest.
    Simon wasn’t there and notice..she kept her kids OFF the show. WHY??
    Did you see Bethenny or Ramona apologize EVER to Alex? They clearly planned the reunion together. They were very rehearsed. I heard Alex say in the back she had to get all her “points” in. She had notes. Throwing stones lately?
    Alex..LIAR..you never tried over and over to do ANYTHING. We are not friends. OVER. Why keep rehashing it.
    I do fight back..I don’t need to be DIRTY.
    WE ALL talk to the press. Are you kidding?
    I said the “ugly comment” after the season. She never heard until APRIL. Don’t use that excuse. Please.


    Andy clearly thinks Ramona is a hypocrite. Right?
    Ramona had no heart for Luann.
    Wow..hundreds of thousands? No one I know thinks she has changed AT ALL. But she does LOOK great. Do you love how Alex is defending Ramona this year? HAH!
    Hypocrite..Ramona has said the MEANEST things to me behind my back!! ( on the show!)
    B said she had surgery. I don’t know how she knows.
    I think she was rude to Andy..really…talk about refecting a question?
    Kissing not an idescretion? Kidding??? I would never do that to Bobby!

    Ramona said Bethenny gives everything to Page 6…but Alex doesn’t attack her. Why not?
    Bethenny is an open book…when she wants. If I play HER message on camera…I am a bad person? But she will show everything. WHich is it?

    • We’ve known it for quite some time now, but this is just another example that jill will never change. She’s still her mean, petty, selfish self.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      “Did you see Bethenny or Ramona apologize EVER to Alex?” – Jill

      Does she not get that they may have done it when they were not filming? There is a difference between what I said above and the whole thing with Bethenny. Jill put their fight on air. It should be dealt with on air. It would make no sense if they were suddenly chummy chummy. BUT Bethenny made an EXCELLENT point, why didn’t Jill call her the next day to talk? Because she didn’t want to make up. Jill talks out of the side of her mouth. It’s almost sad because Jill will NEVER get it.

      • anniieee says:

        She is circling down in a sea of paranoia. Jill is headed to Scary Island. Where is the white shirt–with the buckles? Can we get one at Bellvue?

        • little rock says:

          They can always use that gray thing jen wore to the post V.I. lunch. Just tie the sleeves in a bow at the back, it’ll match that huge bow under her chin. Tell kelly it’s the latest in institutional fashion. Just don’t tell her it’s MENTAL institution.

          • little rock says:

            Duh! i meant “tell jill” But whatever, tell kelly too, because if jill wears it, kelly will want to wear one too.

    • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

      I have a headache after reading Jill’s comments on her blog. She isn’t making any sense. She has slipped into Kellyland. She needs to take a break from the internet and she should also stop hanging around Kelly because her comments sound like some of Kelly’s tweets.

    • Jessie says:

      Its the same shit about Alex vs. Jen. Why does she kept saying that? She has no control or inside about casting for but she is CONSTANTLY hinting that Jen is to replace Alex and that is why Alex is being “mean”. God just reading that makes me mad. Still spinning away any tale she can. And still trying to insist on Jennifer Gilbert being a cast member! Nobody liked her. Nobody was interested in her enough to want to know more. She is not happening for the show. GTF over it!

      Can she take any responsibility for anything? And anything she does admit she tries to make it better by saying we all do it. So basically she hasn’t done anything wrong that the rest of the woman haven’t done. Yea right.

    • error 404 says:

      this is what you say to your bff next to you in bed while you’re watching at home.

      this is not, I repeat NOT what you write in a public blog while sitting next to your PR guru, trying to strategize on how to over turn a nosediving rep.

      maybe Ginger is doing the blogs?

      • Anitabee says:

        Well I do believe that a ginger haired bitch wrote the blog but her name is Jill. Ginger Zarin isn’t as bitchy is is a better writer. And hired a smarter Pr rep.

      • just sayin' says:

        Actually I do remember B telling R and A how much she appreciated them how she never thought they would be the people that she depended on and how much it meant to her. I do happen to have a PR degree (seriously :)) and her PR person does suck. Yes, I have spent the last 1o years working in social services but that does not change the fundamentals….sincerity and truth. I actually thought she did well during the first part of the reunion, sincere or not from a PR level accountability is good but then she blew any progress she may have made. I thought B was very even handed on the after show and Jill could have used that to her advantage, another failure for her PR guy. If it is true that he is looking very working for all these women I would like to know what he is getting paid for, none of them are coming off well, JMO.

    • kokuanani says:

      I have to much blush! But I took some off later!)</blockquote

      Well, it must be authentic Jill, because the grammar errors that any 8th grader could spot are still there. ["to" much blush]

    • TLM says:

      Who can follow Jill’s insane rambling? Maybe if she put thoughts into complete sentences, I could follow her. I saw her Tweet to Simon that she has “PROOF” that they tried to bash the Zarins. If that is true, then let Jill post a link, and be specific. Why is she afraid to just provide this proof??

      Silex did a great job on The 10! Show in Philly this morning, and it appears one of our local reporters volunteered to co-host, because she is obsessed with the show! Funny.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Yep…it happened.
      Jill boarded the crazy train and Kelly punched her ticket.

  61. HD says:

    Another thing I noticed…did you see Luann say, “You have never seen my bathroom or my bedroom on TV.” Like she is so classy. Okay…but we have saw you in bed with Jill, kissing Ellen Degneres’s lost twin brother, gossiping and eavesdropping, laying in a bed in your video with 4-5 different men, etc… I thought by now she would be off that high horse

    • Judy says:

      I totally agree with you. Not to mention – listening in on phone conversations without announcing yourself, or CONSTANTLY talking over people. Very classy indeed.

    • error 404 says:

      like most things Lulu, it was nonsense.

      Yeah, we get it, B is an exhibitionist and you try to be classy. got it.

      Why do they cloud everything with nonsense “facts” that just diminish their point. We’ve seen Lulu’s kids bedrooms plenty of times, and we’ve seen her stand in Sonja’s bathroom… so what. If you want to say B crossed a line, just say it. We get it.

    • boston02127 says:

      @HD~We didn’t see her bedroom or bathrooms because all season she was homeless in the city . lol

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Riddle me this – why was LuAnn looking up Alex’s dress? And then points it out on national tv – close your legs or something like that???

  62. Scorpiosue says:

    Great blog as usual Lynn.

    1. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that Jill is spending so much time worrying about you Lynn that she is sending DM’s to people lying about what has been said and done. To Jill: Live by your own words, “Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.”

    2. Even with all of her sarcastic wit, Bethenny was outclassed the JKL team. Where they were trying to defend themselves Bethenny put the truth out there.

    3. I TRULY will never understand Jill. She can throw out statements like (paraphrasing) “Bobby’s next was slit open ear to ear,” yet Bethenny cannot mention anything on the reunion show.???? Talk about a double standard.

    4. Round of applause to Alex. When she was questioned why she was so chummy to Ramona and Bethenny after all that they said about her and Alex and she responded, “after I talked to them about it, it never happened again.” Then irrational Jill pipes and asks here when she’s done it….does she not watch the show? Does she not remember anything that she has said? Maybe we should just be feeling sorry for because maybe she has the early onslaught of dementia happening. Because she doesn’t even remember written e-mails. Boy, you can’t get more concrete than written e-mail’s.

    5. Kelly, unfortunately, is still using playground mentality. The back and forth with Alex made her look like my petulant 7 year old. She’s 42 physically, but 7 emotionally.

    6. Lastly, a happy, positive note. Bethenny Getting Married? is the cutest, sweetest, most real we’ve seen her. THIS is why I love Bethenny so much. AND can I say that Jason doesn’t let B. steam roll him and is SUPER cute with bed head :D. I have to say that I spit my soda out at the “Napoleon Dyanmite” crack, but I really liked how even B. said that she thought the kids was cool. Cookie. Cookie, is adorable and the faces she makes. I’m sure she has a higher Q rating than the Countess ;).

    Again, Lynn, thank you for this blog, staying strong and go Chicago Blackhawks!

  63. anniieee says:

    Thanks for the email–I picked it up off my phone..no FB at school. I so appreciate you, this blog and everyone on here. What a great place to hang out. Kids are just waiting for the busses. LAST DAY OF SCHOOL….Schools out for summer…(singing)

    Looking forward to the blog about Bethenny’s show. I loved it!

  64. cusi77 says:

    The scene where both Bethenny and Jason called Cookie and poor Cookie did not know who to follow… cracks me up! Jason’s concerns for Cookie accepting who will work with Bethenny… priceless!

  65. Scorpiosue says:

    Obviously Jill’s PR people are doing a crappy job (and Kelly’s, which may be one in the same since we hear the exact same phrases from the both of them). Zap 2 It had three polls today:

    First was if you thought Jill had proof that Alex put tried to put something in the paper about Jill:

    Yes: 14%
    No: 86%

    Second, do you believe Bethenny has tried to trash Kelly and her girls in the press?
    Yes: 6%
    No: 94%

    Lastly, do you think Jill asked other housewives not to shoot with Bethenny?
    Yes: 94%
    No: 6%

    Pretty telling numbers I’d say.

  66. Small Town Mama says:

    Great recap Lynn! The one thing that bothered me was the whole, show me the proof!, Where’s your proof? I have proof!, crap. The viewers are never going to see these emails, voicemails, etc. so what’s the point?

    My guess about the cocktail reception is Jill contacted Bravo and told them Alex and Simon were in breach of their contracts because they were going to discuss publicly things that hadn’t aired yet. Most likely Jill was worried she wouldn’t be able to get her side out in the press first and she wouldn’t get the sympathy that she wanted going into the reunion show. Which also would help explain her lame sympathy tweets over the weekend.

    • Jessie says:

      I think that is probably the most likely scenario. She tried to get Bravo to step in and block it. Thankfully they ignored her as they seem to be doing alot lately lol.

  67. coocoopuffs78 says:

    Lynn, another fantastic blog as usual. I just hope that I can keep up now that my kids are out of school for the summer. What the heck is up with the extra 10lbs of hair sittin’ on top of Jill’s already mammoth sized head? And why wasn’t she wearing her wedding ring? Correct me if i’m wrong but she had enough costume jewelry on to decorate a mummy but not her wedding ring.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      I’m glad somebody commented on the lack of wedding ring, big honkin diamond that she used to flash in everyone’s face before.

      It has been absent for quite some time during the filming and also absent when she has been on live guest appearances recently.

      Between the clanky, clunky, tacky arm jewelry she wore last night and the magnificent efforts of her 4 person PR team, it is patently obvious that Jill loves to shop at the Dollar Store.

      Note to Jill: For someone so in need of good PR, Dollar Store Bottom of the Barrel Team of Four probably isn’t going to do it for you. For the “load” you are projecting, contact Warren Buffet’s people.

      Totally agree with the above commenters on their assessments of Kelly.

  68. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s Bravo Blog:
    Compete with yourself, and cooperate with others.

    Kelly honey, I don’t have to “compete” with myself because there is only one of me.
    How many are there of you Kelly?

    • patricia henderson says:

      boston, i love your posts and you must be irish, the gift of gab, you know! slainte’

  69. patricia henderson says:

    i noticed something last night about kelly, let me know if you saw it, too…whenever B attempts to find out what proof kelly has about B’s attacks on her chbildren, kelly says something completely dialog stopping. watch it again when she says “what are you doing”. it stops B in her dialog and makes sure kelly never has to answer the question. i can’t remember the exact quote, but she did same thing at the “last supper”. maybe she ain’t crazy after all, it is very much the act of a scheming, manipulative liar.

    • DarkSonnet says:


    • Quincy IL says:

      PR 3,1416 (pi) infinite PR

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Yes, that is exactly what she does, I noticed. When it comes time for Kelly to provide even a miniscule amount of proof, she gets up from the table and leaves or says “I’m not doing this” and leaves. If she can’t physically get up and leave, she will say a conversation stopper such as “what are you doing” or something similar.

      That is very irritating and I am surprised someone doesn’t put a stop to it.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Oh, and p.s.: I don’t believe Kelly is in need of sympathy. I think she is just mean-spirited, jealous and dumb. She wants to lash out, but not have to back up what she is saying. She wants to throw dirt and move on to how wonderful she is. She is just vile … and boring.

    • error 404 says:

      this is how Kiki ALWAYS talks. She has an endless supply of conversation killers. Even in nice situations. It’s like:
      Lulu: “are you dating anyone?”
      Kiki: “I’m looking for love and want more babies?”

      umm… nice way to avoid answering the question Kiki. It certainly got Lulu off track.. she was actually gobsmacked for a few minutes.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly’s conversations are one sided or she is both sides at once. Please, she comes from a family of attorneys……….if anyone attacked her children in the press then lawsuits would be flying!

  70. Olivia says:

    I’m a little off with my least favorites, but I would rank Kelly as number 3 after Jill and Lu Ann. Lu Ann, IMHO, is just plain insufferable. She is a dirty player and her defense of Jill over the past season is sickening to behold. A slavering, slobbering nitwit.

    Kelly seems to hear the name “Jill” as a trigger that incites her brain into action. Somehow along the way she decided that Jill was her “mentor” and as we have seen she has used many of Jill’s comments and phrases to make her case. Not having an original thought in her empty head, she was putty in Jill’s hands and we have seen Jill use many of these statements that Kelly put forth in St. John’s. The moment Ramona brought Jill’s name to the attention of the others, Kelly went into full blown defense mode.

    Kelly has created her own line of defense against the world by insisting that everything be viewed through rose colored glasses. When she feels that world has been invaded by bad vibes, i.e. Jill’s supposed victimization by Bethenny, she is unable to go beyond the border and look at both sides. Her dislike of Bethenny is palpable and I believe much of it was planted and stoked by Jill. Her “up here, down there” remark had nothing to do with class as much as it had to do with the realm of where Kelly calls home. No “meanness” is allowed to intrude. She honestly believes in her own “niceness” and saw Bethenny’s Madonna comment as beneath Kelly’s worldview. She was clueless to the idea that she was being used.

    If we are to believe her at all, the visit to St. John’s was not something she wished to do and having been prepped in advance by Jill, with Lu Ann’s sneaky remarks somewhere in the mix, she was poised to attack the minute Jill’s name came up. It was validation to her that Jill was being trashed by the others and her constant berating of the women, which was lame at best, was due in large part to her defense of her “friend”.

    Her stupidity is what makes her #3 on my Hit Parade list of those who should go. Up until the last few episodes Kelly was merely a yawn.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Kelly is Pinocchio to Jill’s Geppetto and we will see the nose grow. Well, actually both of the noses should be growing…

  71. Kat says:

    I think Jill’s PR people are going to have to hire their own Press Reps to rehabilitate the poor reputations they getting working for Jill.

  72. ElizabethB says:

    My thoughts on the reunion so far:

    Jill is still the same ol’ Jill. I don’t see a change in her. Still mean and unpleasant. Alex was as cool as a cucumber. Ramona was good ol’ Ramona. B was very composed, too. LuAnn didn’t have much to say and Kelly made no sense whatsoever.

    By the way, did anyone happen to see Bethenny on Joy Behar’s show? I just watched a clip of it on CNN and Joy was discussing B’s post-baby weight loss. B said she was healthy before she got pregnant and didn’t use pregnancy as an excuse to pork out on junk food. She said she would indulge in some cheesecake, but not all the time and not in huge amounts. She also said she has only been on her elliptical machine a few times since giving birth to baby Bryn. B said she now weighs about 122 or 123 and Joy did not believe her. B said to find her a scale and she would prove it.

    Now I am wondering just how tall B is. I am about 5’8″ and when I weighed 122, I was pretty thin, but B seems even thinner than that.

    • Small Town Mama says:

      She mentioned on the reunion she had gained 35 pounds with 5 weeks left to go. 35 pounds is a very healthy weight gain for a pregnancy.

    • Jennifer says:

      She went on Access Hollywood a few weeks ago and stepped on scale on camera and it said 123- she normally 117 has 5 lbs to go she said

  73. emt2 says:

    Jill lying again.

    • Olivia says:

      Gloria continues to be a “real love” when responding to questions isn’t she? What a pain in the ass!

      I cannot imagine Bethenny being rude to her but if she chose to not return Gloria’s last phone call, it may be that she was not interested any longer in listening to people trying to make amends for Jill.

      Jill is Gloria’s daughter clear through. Snotty, demanding, imperious, condescending, and full of crapola.

    • BamaBelle says:


      I watched… UNBELIEVABLE!… Jill’s blaming Bravo for the editing. That woman has a freaking problem. She kept the message for 3 months, waited for the cameras to roll so she could air it. Turned Bethenny down several times when she tried to repair the friendship. Turned LuAnn against Bethenny, is there any doubt LuAnn would of treated Bethenny that way in the bar on the first episode if it hadn’t been for Jill.

      Poored fuel on the flames of Bethenny and Kelly. Tried to turn Alex, Simon and Ramona against Bethenny, asking them not to film with her. Ran and hired Jennifer to cater that stupid skating thing, so she could befriend Jennifer first.

      What about her telling LuAnn she didn’t put much thought into those e-vites. Putting Ramona down every chance she could and refuse the trip because Jill couldn’t talk Ramona into excluding certain people. What about telling Kelly to stop saying “umm” and “like”? Making fun of Kelly about the jelly beans, “What you were afraid they would eat your jelly beans”. I can’t stand Kelly, but Jill says she DOES care for Kelly, why didn’t she listen and be more respectful and caring? Because she befriended Kelly to hurt Bethenny.

      What about Jill confronting Kelly about her manager putting out the wrong information about the PlayBoy thing? How about making the “put your tongue down her throat” comment about Sonja to Coete? What about having Gloria wear the Team Jill sweatsuit to the photo shoot? Sending the nasty e-mail to Kelly. Cussing Ramona out for not telling her Bethenny’s Dad was dying when Alex did tell her and she didn’t give a shit. What about Jill saying to Jennifer “I’m sorry Alex is causing all this drama at your party, when a few minutes earlier, Jill locked herself and Kelly into Jen pantry, after the shouting match with Ramona?

      How about dissing LuAnn’s gift “go big or do home”? How about putting Ramona on speaker phone, not saying LuAnn was listening, and let Ramona go on and on about what a Slut LuAnn is? What about jumping on Mario for calling LuAnn “Countless” when that was none of her business? How about chewing Ramona out for the “Countless” remark, and ruining her boat party… telling Ramona’s friend”how tacky for Ramona to have her jewelery displayed and not giving some to them as a gift”? What about saying Ramona’s too old to wear a bikini? What about complaining about EVERYTHING at Ramona’s face cream launch?

      What about lying to Bethenny as to why she was put on speaker phone? What about excluding Bethenny, and having LuAnn exclude Bethenny to certain parties? What about putting that crap about Bethenny in that gossip paper? What about letting that NASTY Perez Hilton touch her breast, then have the NERVE to say something about Ramona kissing the Hooter’s guy? What about lying in the bed with LuAnn and dressing herself better for bed than she does for Bobby? How about letting that little rat dog (sorry Ginger) lick the inside of her nose? Calling that man’s shoes plastic and harshly saying “give them to me”?

      What about dissing the Brooklyn Fashion Show… the garbage, she should of worn a “wife-beater” shirt and jeans. Saying Alex was “Channeling the Devil”, calling Alex ugly, Ramona an Alien-yet didn’t say one thing about Big Bird Kelly? Lying about not being able to find Ramona afterwards and left without a word to Ramona. Saying The Countess wouldn’t be caught dead at anything Alex and Simon was involved in.

      What about making fun of one of Alex’ boys about climbing up someones leg like she witnessed the whole thing and wasn’t even there, just spreading gossip from LuAnn… YES, yes you did, Jill. You may not have saw them, but you damn sure wanted Alex to know about it! Then denying the whole thing at Sak’s… it wasn’t me… it wasn’t me! YES IT WAS YOU TALKING ABOUT ALEX’ BOYS TO ALEX… BITCH!

      Walking out when Bethenny entered a room. What about only congratulating her because… “If I don’t say something… I’ll look like a piece of shit”… opps… too late! Bitching about no food prior to Ramona’s vow renewal. What about that FAKE smile or grin when the camera’s are rolling? What about all the ugly faces when something didn’t suit you? What about talking over everybody?

      I’m too tired to write anymore… I’m sure I’ve missed plenty, if anybody can think of some more…

      The bottom line… Jill… Editing didn’t have a damn thing to do with all the things you said and done this season… OWN IT and please stop making excuses!

  74. Amy2010 says:

    the comment below was left by jill zarin last year about kel;ly when the scandel came out abou her fighr with her ex etc. look below now wouldnt we love if JILL took her own advice/

    “I don’t think it’s working for her,” says Jill. “I don’t think she should be on the show. It’s not that I think we should throw anybody off, it’s just that I think if I were her, I would not do the show again. I would go back to anonymity and spend the next year trying to repair my reputation. What’s more important to her: her reputation or fame?”

  75. Judy says:

    The previews showed Ramona asking Jill to forgive her???? For having her leave the villa when she showed up announced??? How many times must she apologize? Oh, that’s right Jill doesn’t hold a grudge! Jill’s mea culpa’s are so fake.

    • Brigid says:

      Are you talking about when Ramona was standing up? If so Ramona wasn’t asking Jill to forgive her – rather she was expressing how Jill should’ve handled herself when she showed up. They clipped it so I can see how it’s confusing. Basically Ramona was demonstrating and saying “Jill you should have said – Alex I was a sh*thead to you, Ramona I was a sh*thead to you, Bethenny I was a sh*thead to you and *stomp* please forgive me!”

      • Judy says:

        Thanks, I did misunderstand it .

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Yup! Ramona was showing Jill how to own her shit and then apologize and ask forgiveness for it! When Ramona has had enough BS thrown around she becomes a firecracker to get her point across.

  76. Squirrels says:

    I thought twitter was kinda quiet today. Seems the site is on overload. Been that way since yesterday.

    I miss Ginger

  77. Mindy says:

    Lynn! I love love love your blogs!! They are always spot on…. Can’t wait to read what you write next!!

  78. Olivia says:

    Ramona is asking for Jill’s forgiveness? Oh brother. Not another defection. Say it ain’t so.

    • error 404 says:

      No. She is saying that Jill came into the villa at st. John with a queenly attitude, when in fact, in Ramona’s opinion, Jill should have entered the villa in sack cloth and ashes on her knees begging everyone’s forgiveness. Her lack of contriteness is one reason why R “threw her out”.

      • Squirrels says:

        Spot on !!!

      • TLM says:

        Jill seems to mistake stunned silence for “throwing someone out.” No one said, “LEAVE, Jill” (unlike the way Jill has done to B, R and A!!). They were simply in shock, and it was obvious Jill did something really boneheaded by showing up where and when she did, especially knowing what had just happened with Kelly.

        Jill thinks ONLY of herself and her perspective. Who the F wanted to “sit down and talk” with Jill about all the other crap when they were on their last day of a vacation in the Caribbean?? Yeah, that sounds like fun. Sure, let me stop my massage and pedicure with the island breeze blowing to go inside and sit at a table with Jill and get indigestion on the last day of my vacation. And why, because Jill made up her mind that she was tired of blowing them all off?

        Jill is the last person on EARTH people should be taking relationship advice from. I’d sooner take career advice from Pauly Shore or Slade Smiley.

        • error 404 says:

          yes, another JIll irony. FOr someone who yells “Just leave!” every 5 minutes, she’s milking the “they threw me out” cow for all its worth.

          When Jill says something, she’s not serious and everyone should know that.

          When everyone else says something, Jill replays it over and over again, bringing it up months later, and it’s always somethign she can never forgive

  79. CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

    As I am pretty new to reality tv, does anyone know how it works when they film the “confessionals”? I have read several times that these were filmed in April, and Jill mentioned that last night when she was claiming that Alex didn’t know she called her ugly until after they had finished filming. What I wonder is whether they are shown edited footage of anything scene that they are in or are they shown an entire episode without the other confessionals added???

    JZ keeps defending Kelly, even now, as “4 against 1” – she has by now seen the same episode we have seen from Scary Island…. it seems to me that even if she was going to go with the PR line that Kelly’s people have come up with, she wouldn’t lump Sonja in with the others – Sonja was nothing but supportive and helpful to Kelly, even when Kelly turned on her.

    • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

      I hit enter without editing, sorry. I am just wondering if anyone knows exactly what they are watching when doing the confessionals – if they are watching anything at all.

    • RileyKitty says:

      Alex answered this in Chicago. They are not shown any dailies when doing the talking heads. A producer asks them what they thought when…. & then they answer it. Alex said season 1 she was unprepared but after that she started keeping a few notes so she would remember when asked.

  80. Bravo fan says:

    JillZarin.com is back up again i am so angry what she wrote i can’t type. I tried to leave a comment but she has them closed even though she says they are open

  81. Olivia says:

    Jill has to defend Kelly to a large extent because it seems more than likely that the words that Kelly was using down there were right from Jill’s mouth. Also, I believe it was Jill who planted in Kelly’s empty head the idea that Bethenny had made comments in the press regarding her children.

    Had those press releases been real someone somewhere would have found them online to prove Kelly’s allegations. So far nothing has surfaced.

    From Jill’s mouth to Kelly’s ear is why Jill is adamant in backing Kelly. I dislike Kelly but she is merely a tool in Jill’s war. She was used and abused and is too stupid to make that connection. Jill’s defense of Kelly is not about altruism but a means of covering her own ass in this scandal. She needs Kelly for cover because if Kelly starts revealing all that Jill fed her the lid would blow off.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      That is exactly the truth…

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Do you think Jill realizes what a ticking time bomb Kelly truly is?

      Kelly currently views Jill as her “friend and protector”, probably the only person in her life right now that is paying attention to her. And attention is VERY important to Kelly, negative or positive.

      The negative attention is spun into magical interpretations, YouTubed and proclaimed as indisputable fact. She is the bully who touts anti-bullying.

      Kelly needs to be the center of attention, not to just have normal attention focused on her. Her rather virginal proclamations about sexual morality are belied by her manner of dress, or should we say undress. Her judgement of Ramona’s flirty behavior on the Hooter’s boat was laughable considering her decision to proudly do Playboy and to reference it repeatedly quoting inflated circulation figures. This, added to her desire to constantly dress in clothing that skirts the accidental exposure of one of more intimate body parts.

      “The lady doth protest too much”? Hmmm…

      The fallacy of Kelly needing the money from the show “to support her girls” is also laughable.

  82. c_mack_Omaha says:

    Not sure if anyone has seen this yet…


    Bethenny was a divorceee?????

    • error 404 says:

      yes, she mentioned it in all 3 RHoNY seasons. Does this rock that people were living under have an address? Because B can keep a secret like a 2 year old can, she’s an open book to the point of discomfort at times.

      • cmackomaha says:

        I guess I just have not heard it mentioned…sorry for my rock.

        • error 404 says:

          lol.. I was meaning the author’s. It’s one thing for a viewer not to have every episode memorized, but another for a “journalist” to publish a story based on a lie.

  83. Ellabean says:

    Bethenney on The View Yesterday: Here is a link from hulu.com where you can watch. She comes on in the last 10 minutes of the show – – so you may have to play with the options on the hulu site to jump ahead – – – – .

    Enjoy !

  84. cusi77 says:

    LuAnn disturbed b/c Bethenny appears doing the pregnancy test… ummm…

    She is SO private… we got to hear Ramona stated by phone her scapades while married… That does not bother the countless, not private… kissing on camera with the so-called writer… not private, making fool of herself SINGING! i honestly prefer to see Bethenny pee in that stick, is life without pretensions!

    What about Jill’s HAIR! Her worst enemy made her look life a BUFFALO!
    Fire him/her, is pure hatred!

    • error 404 says:

      watch the Bravo clips form reunion part 2.. hysterical!

      Sonja makes a joke, calling her dates “customers” and Lulu suggests she call them “suitors” lol! Lulu, ever the mutton dressed as lamb!

      btw, this was said in the context that Kiki is very anti one night stands, and has never had one. Sonja points out that just because YOU think you’re in a relationship and having sex for the first time, doesn’t mean that you won’t end up with a one night stand when he never calls you again after.

    • error 404 says:

      again, she makes no sense.

      She and Alex were never friends… so it’s ok then for her to insult them? She then admits she freely gave them advice on how save themselves from the chopping block. So unsolicited advice is ok to give non-friends? So confusing.

      Again with the Jen G bs. I think Jen G was a housewife in Jill’s mind only.

      Now Bethenny was never her friend. But she wants to be friends again. What?

      Jill wasn’t ready to make up with B that one time at Ramona’s but B is a bitch for not making more attempts after that.
      B refused to meet off camera that one time at Ramona’s, but that’s it. SHe missed her one chance to make up with Jill off camera and now the friendship is over. What?

      Who more stupid? Jill for writing such nonsense, or me for wasting the time reading it?

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Exactly, error404. I have stopped reading Jill’s twitter or website. I didn’t do much of it before, but now I don’t do it at all. I made it through this crazy season. If Jill is on next season, I won’t watch it.

        It feels great to not read Jill’s incessant lies. Plus, what worse punishment for a narcisisst like her than to not pay her any attention at all? 😉

      • suebhoney says:

        Ohhhhh…she just makes me crazy…in one line she says that she and Alex were never friends and goes onto some gibberish only to say that “I only wish them well (simon and alex) but I don’t see us ever being friends again”. Well Insane Jill Zarin…how the hell can you be friends AGAIN if you weren’t friends in the first place???

        Honestly, I love the Real Housewives shows (maybe not Jersey so much) but I don’t think I can watch another season of Stupid Jill Zarin and Crazy Kelly and My Sh*t Don’t Stink Luanne…it really gets me worked up! Which begs the question…who is the crazy one here? Must be me because I continue to watch people that I would never have in my life due to their lack of brains, class, manners, and honesty.

        I will stay kudos to Bethenny for laying it all out there last night. She was spot on for calling Jill out on all her crap. And she was pretty calm and collected about it all unlike Jill who must have forgot her damn notes again. Here’s the thing Jill….when you have the truth on your side and in your heart and a true grievance to air…YOU DON’T NEED NOTES!!!! And you aren’t crying and hysterical saying “Show me proof…I don’t remember that!!” when you are telling the truth about things. It’s when you start lying and spinning tales that you need notes because you can’t remember what you told to who (or whom?) and when. I cannot stand…I loathe, I hate, I despise liars. Liars are the lowest form of scum on the planet. People who lie have no soul. I detest them. So Jill Zarin…that would pretty much sum up how I feel about you.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Secrets of ALL mothers:
      Tit for tat does not make for a real or healthy friendship!
      You celebrate your friends highest moments and help them through their lowest lows!
      If you can’t say something nice, then don’t say anything at all.

    • Small Town Mama says:

      Notice how she doesn’t deny she’s Susan Sanders?

    • kokuanani says:

      I just attempted to post the following as a comment on jill’s ridiculous blog.

      Any bets as to whether it will get posted?

      June 11th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

      Jill, if you’ve “received only the nicest e-mails and comments,” it’s because you’ve blocked everything that’s not fawning from this site and others.

      Prove me wrong by posting this.

  85. kellyhannah says:

    Hulu has the reunion episode pt. 1

  86. Ellabean says:

    Jezebel has a clip of Bethenney on The View yesterday – the clip where she gets right down to the nitty gritty of what the Jill feud was about : the fact that Bethenney got her own show.

    And the Jezebel article is good too.


  87. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lynn – the blog rocks on! Thank you for this wonderful forum and thank you to all who come here with facts not fiction. And now you can add to your talents: teaching old dogs new tricks……….

    My husband came out of the pantry last night – he is now officially hooked on RHONY! He has been pretending to read or play with his Blackberry for weeks now and giving me grief (how can you watch this s**t?) but following the wives none the less.
    How do I know? During Reunion Part 1, he turned to me and asked me if I want to do what Ramona did with their vow renewal!!!!! Why, you may ask. Well, TODAY IS OUR 17TH ANNIVERSARY!
    Husbands say the darnest things.

    • wvurn says:

      Happy Anniversary!

    • RileyKitty says:

      I expect we will all be invited to the vow renewal 😉

      Congratulations!! 17 years is something to be proud of (my hubby & I will celebrate 17 years in December) it takes hard work to get there for sure. 🙂

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Thank you all, alas, we have a college bound kid so money is tight and I can’t see clear to throw a party….BUT if we did, I would invite you all. And I bet hubby would be dishing the wives with all of you too!

        PS – I get dibbs on wearing puke green shoes!

  88. HD says:

    From Jill’s Blog: “Tuesday night is the next installment in the reunion “series”. Crazy right? Well…it is going to get very emotional again.”

    I thought the next installment came on TV on Monday…..

  89. Ellabean says:

    From Jill’s site – from last nite’s show:

    “What I do know is that I loved being on the show. I made lifetime relationships ( I hope!) and yes, I would do it over again for that reason. However, I can’t say what I want to do right now. I have mixed feelings. I think the universe will present something or someone who will help us make the decision when the time comes.”

    WEll – I ‘d say she is bracing for not being ASKED back to do the show next season. I think she knows the writing is on the wall.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She is covering her butt because she may well not be asked back – swansong comes to mind as well.

    • HD says:

      She is already setting this up so if they don’t ask her back she can try to save face and spin it and say something like, “oh it was just time for me to move on. The toxicity was overwhelming. It was tough on my family. You know Bobby was practically decapitated with his surgery and Ally is still dealing with shopping for college and Ginger is still shitting all over the place and it just became too much.”

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      I have mixed feelings. I think the universe will present something or someone who will help us make the decision when the time comes.”

      Let us all hope that this little piece of tripe doesn’t mean that Jillousy has other irons in the fire. Wouldn’t put it past this witch to be using her so-called connections to get another gig. Patti Stanker is the first person who comes to mind. Can you imagine those two (Jillousy n Stanker) together in bed somewhere? LOL

      • Squirrels says:

        Do you spell it Stanker or Skanker? I don’t watch her show so I don’t know.
        Either way, it’s amusing.

    • vilzvet says:

      Ah yes, wouldn’t we all want a “lifetime relationship” with Kelly! Yikes!

  90. Small Town Mama says:

    I’m trying to keep up with comments but every time I get to the bottom and hit refresh there are a bunch more for me to read. So if someone has already pointed this out forgive me!

    Jill says on her blog about Alex, “Let’s be honest. Simon wasn’t there and notice..she kept her kids OFF the show. WHY??”.

    Didn’t Lynn say in a previous blog that Alex mentioned a bunch of scenes with her kids didn’t make it in. One was a birthday party I think.

    Jill caught lying again!

    • RileyKitty says:

      I am not understanding what crime Jill sees in Alex keeping her kids oof the show if that were the case (since Alex said her kids are on the editing room floor we know that is not the case)? Maybe instead of sragging Ally into her drama & throwing her under the bus (babygate) she should take a cue from Alex. Besides we didn’t see a lot of Lulu & Cuckoo’s (hey that rhymes 🙂 ) kids either this season.

  91. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    On her blog Jill is saying that what Silex has done to her off camara is unforgivable. REALLY JILL? Why is this woman who claims to have “changed” since filming insist on bringing down Silex?

  92. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    @ WindyCityWondering that is really cute about your husban. 🙂

  93. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    Oh another thing before my boss comes back. Jill is throwing it in Silex’s face about $2000 she donate din Fabric for the fashion show. Some how she thinks that Bravo editing this out is Silex’s fault. She is making it seem like it was their master plan.

    • HD says:

      What this fool fails to realize is YOU DON’T DONATE TO TALK ABOUT IT LATER! That is JUST what Bethanny was saying, how she keeps score of stuff. So what you gave $2000 worth of freaking fabric?! Whip-dee-do! She gives so that she can lord it over people later and one thing I can’t stand is when people do things to throw it in your face later!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And Zarin Fabrics name was probably on the photo op wall and in the program. Is that 2 tits or 2 tats?

        • vilzvet says:

          Heh, what would the COST be for $2K worth of fabric, a few hundred bucks?! Think it broke them??

          • Gypsy says:

            I think that if Jill designed the fabric it is probably worth $1.98 but I may be being too generous.

  94. patricia henderson says:

    this is from a jill post
    Tuesday night is the next installment in the reunion “series”. Crazy right? Well…it is going to get very emotional again.
    i could swear that the next reunion show was to be on monday?????

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Shhhhhh! Is is Monday night, but don’t tell Jill. Then she won’t hit all the press with her venom. She will be a day late and a dollar short. Oh wait…. ;o)

  95. Pantry Viewer says:

    Holy cow, that clip of Bethenny on The View – Sherri is just seething with the old familiar jealousy, it looks like to me.

    Sherri seemed to have a superior, snotty and dismissive attitude, ala Jill. Couple with chomping on her gum the whole time – classless.

    If you watch the clip, pay attention to Sherri’s face the whole time.

  96. butterisafruit says:

    I’m up to the 7 AM posts and still have hours to go, before I reach the end. …Is there EVER an END with Lynn’s Blog? Thank GOD we can come here, Bravo certainly won’t let us share.

    I need to talk about Kelly.

    I know people feel sorry for her and speak of psychological or developmental syndromes.
    I am not one of them. I don’t feel sorry for her at all. I watched her closely last night.
    I know that stare. I know that face. The seething with hatred, holding herself back, just you wait, you’re going to slip up and then I get my say FACE.

    I grew up with that face . It comes from a drunk. It can be someone totally wasted and doesn’t want the rest of the room to know so they hold tight, or it can be a dry drunk waiting for the bar to open.

    I don’t buy the “I never drink” line. She certainly did on the cruise. I think she’s a fraud. You may not find a drop to drink in her apartment but I’m sure a liquor store is on speed dial. You’ll find a flask in that giant purse she lugs around too.

    Once she has a snort she’s back to fun land, in the meantime she’s focused on one thing, she’s going to pounce on Alex or Bethany, because they’re friends and everything she wishes she could be. She’s on fire, she can’t participate in general conversation, until she’s poked.

    Even when she spoke to Alex she had to say Alex McCord, she had to annunciate so she wouldn’t trip up.

    When she went ballistic on the cruise it was because she was close to having the shakes. She did it at lunch she did it at Bethany’s dinner. I felt it was something like that but once I saw her
    stare last night I knew exactly what it was.

    This is why she can only remember certain details of what happened on that cruise. She remembers it HER way. She can watch the show over and over and say that they deleted what really happened because her brain doesn’t retain the facts. Her brain will only remember how she saw it go down.

    And that’s how I see it.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly is a walking contradiction – I was watching her too last night. She doesn’t engage unless it is aimed at Jill’s nemises (Bethenny or Alex). LuAnn has said many disparaging and disrespectful things to her or even worse, with her sitting right there – but no attacks. She doesn’t attack Ramona or Sonja either because they are not on Jill’s radar.

    • TLM says:

      I personally do not have experience living with or being very close to alcoholics, so I can’t dispute what Butter says. But from everything I have read about it, I don’t think it makes you speak in a nonsensical way – in other words, I don’t know that it causes psychosis. Withdrawal, yes, and seizures, but not psychosis. Of course she drinks – why else would she have a tray of “my favorite shots” brought out? She also said she doesn’t eat processed food, and then proceeded to dine almost exclusively on candy. She contradicts herself and has hallucinations and delusions. This is someone who very likely has paranoid schizophrenia and needs treatment. Jill said something about her “recovering”, and sadly people don’t recover from this. All they can do is treat it. I really would love to get to the bottom of what the problem is, but it looks like on Part 2 of the reunion, when Bethenny says she has mental and emotional problems, Kelly walks offstage.

      • Eve says:

        Tick tick tick.
        I think its only a matter of time before Kelly is in rehab or there is some horrible life experience related to her mental state.

    • Mary says:

      Butterisafruit, (har! Love that name!)

      I know what you mean about Kelly. I grew up in an alcoholic’s crazy fun house,too. From the first entrance of Dr. Kekyll, I could see the Ms. Hyde lurking in there somewhere.

      Alcoholics do remain stunted at the age when they first develop the addiction. She is very much a young teen in her personality, social skills, and speech patterns. Many alcoholics don’t recognize beer as booze because they don’t get the same buzz from it. They also crave sweets at odd times. And don’t get in their way when they are wanting to get their drink on.

      And, you see, alcoholics suffer so much more pain than the rest of us. They are so “real” and full of “integrity” and “so incredibly honest” that we thick-skinned, dull-witted, bullying “normals” just don’t understand them. And of course we destroy that which we don’t understand.

      We normals are so unkind to these poor sensitive creatures! We expect them to behave with some consistency, to remember things they have done and said, and to accept responsibility for such. That makes us “bullies.”. If an alcoholic has another disorder like schizophrenia or BP, then alcohol exaggerates or even initiates the symptoms, so they come across as even more irrational to us.

      Does Kelly need to wear her glasses at all times? She seems to blunder about a
      lot, running into things very much like a fly!

      • MAMAZ says:

        She might be a closet drunk. Or a coke freak. But I think mostly she’s a spolied, selfish, BITCH!

    • boston02127 says:

      @butterisafruit~I agree with you, I’ve been saying she’s a bitter drunk from day one.

    • Jillousyness says:

      Wow, that’s an interesting angle to consider. It’s true Kelly sometimes looks like she’s seething and other times like she’s out of it, as if she’s preoccupied (needing a drink or a hit). And she does constantly leave and come back no matter when or where they are. I bet her luggage tinkled like a wind chime with all those little mini bottles of liquor. It’s a real possibility.

    • BamaBelle says:

      Butterisafruit… Cute name, LOL!

      I read your post and it makes the most sense to me and explains a lot! I’ve always believed Kelly has some kind of substance abuse problem, be it alcohol or drugs. Your alcohol theory is a good one. It would explain a lot of Kelly’s behavior and you can tell by looking at her eyes, something’s wrong. You’re also right about how drinking would cause the memory lapses!

  97. WindyCityWondering says:

    We all edit ourselves – with co workers, friends, family, etc. Editing is used as an excuse by those who knew they were crossing the line from civility to snarkiness. Bethenny owns what she says. Ramona sees what she said was wrong and while she knows she can’t take it back, she sincerely apologizes. Alex knows it is part of the show but doesn’t complain. Sonja does try to choose her words wisely. Kelly has no filter and doesn’t care. LuAnn is too self conscious while filming but loves herself enough that editing doesn’t matter to her.

    Jill uses editing as an excuse to be vile and victimised at the same time!

  98. Squirrels says:

    Ok, Jill at reunion “part un” :

    B- “You said you don’t even want to change, you said that at the …. last episode”.
    J- “You know what? Since then, since you said to me? Since I’ve seen the show? I have changed. I have. And you’ll see it today”.

    So what did Jill mean? She’ll only stomp off in search of a pantry twice?
    She’ll be on Twitter and Facebook faster than a jackrabbit on a date?
    Inquiring minds want to know.

    • shantygal says:

      Is there a pantry on the set? Hope it doesn’t have double glass doors or J & K will never be able to enter.

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  100. error 404 says:

    I swear I read that “Ramona’s blood type is Pinot Gregio” on a recap blog. Is Kiki incapable of an original thought?

    Also, 2 seasons of conversation like:

    Q: “You smell nice. What are you wearing?”
    A: “Fragrance”

    Does Kiki have some kind of disease where the sufferer is physically unable to answer a direct question, no matter how simple.

    We all know that Kiki lied about Playboy, and that the pics are by her husband and are almost 20 year sold… so the scene in Kiki’s kitchen where Jill tries to feed Kiki semi-credile lies to respond to the lies she was caught in about the shoot (complete with the Jill special: blame your agent) is just painful to watch.

  101. kats2 says:

    I just refuse and cannot support the excuse of Kelly having some medical issue as the reason why she is the way she is, I can’t stand how she is given a pass for stupidity and get’s off easy. She is an adult and this should not be allowed. What I see and what is at the heart of both Kelly and Jill is simply spoiled little brat jealous behavior – that’s it, nothing else. IMO the best way to squash it is to completely ignore them. They won’t be able to take it and then we will see either a real breakdown or some real change.

  102. Hooked On Housewives says:

    Has it been mentioned that during the back and forth between Bethenny and Kellamity when B was pressing Kellamity for proof she started calling Andy’s name. Andy! Andy! To me it just proves the point that probably all Kellamity’s life if things got too tough there was someone around who would rescue her. I thought it was great that Andy ignored her ass. However, I was again disappointed that Andy’s answer was ” this will never be resolved.” IMHO, it can be resolved. State your sources beotch or show the proof.

    Was I deluding myself or did Kellamity really say after one of the commercial breaks that, she is sure that it WASN’T Bethenny HERSELF who attacked her and her children in the media? I haven’t rewatched the reunion yet and the moment passed too quickly for me to be sure of what I heard.

    Sorry. Forgot to say hello first. Howdy Lynn. Great blog. Howdy everyone.

    • Katiecoo says:

      Good Morning!

      Yes Kelly admitted in a clip that it wasn’t “Bethenny herself” who contacted (insert name) from Page 6 but it appears she’s trying to lay the blame on one or some of B’s “people”. I still think most of this paranoia is straight from the sabotaging mouth of Jill Zarin. I think Jill has used Kelly for one thing, her addled brain that Zarin can manipulate. THAT is so toxic I’ll take a screeching Luann any day over that disturbing dynamic.

      • Hooked On Housewives says:


        Thank you. Wasn’t sure if that was what I heard. Going to rewatch sometime today but i had to get to my favorite blog and check out the news. LOL.

      • fairydusted says:

        Awwww.I love your new avatar Katiecoo! And I wish like hell I wasn’t leaving for the weekend. Ya’ll crack me up. Great Blog as always Lynn.
        Have a great weekend folks!

  103. TLM says:

    I will post here until the “Bethenny Getting Married” blog is up.

    I saw the premiere of Bethenny’s show last night, and I have to be honest — it was a little bit of a letdown for me. I have been and remain a huge fan of B’s, but I did not anticipate her yelling at Jason as much as she does, and as much as she says it’s mutual, I wasn’t seeing that. I don’t know why she feels the need to raise her voice at him, even when he is not raising his. I wish she would take to heart her remark that “just because you’re speaking louder doesn’t mean you’re right.”

    Granted, she was pregnant at the time, but I didn’t know why she was so freaked out about a small housewarming party when she has catered many events. I could see that she was aggravated that Jason couldn’t get back in time for the party, but she was upset way before that. Her anxiety leading up to the party seemed out of whack with what it actually was. (I would have expected her to be far more freaked out at the St. John dinner she cooked, and yet, she seemed to be fine there!).

    However, I could *completely* understand her not wanting to host people in her apartment she didn’t know without him being there — I would feel the same way. I didn’t know why they couldn’t just schedule Jason’s friends’ arrival to coincide with when Jason would be there.

    The quick scene with her friend Lauren — the friend from Season 1 who said she always wanted to have sex with her husband, and now is pregnant — could have been fun, but quickly got weird. I still had no idea what she was talking about regarding cabbage and breast milk? Huh?? No sooner had she brought that up than they went to commercial.

    I really hope that we learn more about Jason in this series than that he is a “businessman.” WTF does that even mean? Think about it!! A man who works in a business? That could be anything. It’s not like we need to know the company where he works and his office number, but can we get more specific than “businessman”? So far I have read he’s in real estate, he sells medical devices, and he’s a personal trainer, with none of those being substantiated. Can’t B set the record straight by just giving a general category of what type of work he does? The show isn’t just about her, it’s about the two of them and their life together.

    I also thought it was kind of obnoxious for her not to allow Jason to have a home office desk, and to think it was sufficient that he has 2 boxes under their bed. She has a giant home office by any standards — not just NYC standards — can’t he have a desk in one corner of the room?

    Looking forward to installment #2 of the Reunion, and of course, next week’s BGM.

    • Squirrels says:

      The businessman thing may be due to one of her other boyfriends, who lost his job because he was on rhony. I read the details, but my brain was already full at the time, so I think the info spilled into the overflow tank.

      • TLM says:

        It is very odd to me that Jason Colodne lost his job, since he hardly said 2 words on the show, not to mention that he was the President of that company. He later sued them for $55 million and they settled. He then started his own investment company. Still, I think she could name the industry he works in. He’s been part of the show so far and survived a nude photo of his fiancee being sent to his work email, so I would think naming the general industry is not going to get him fired.

        • Fabulous Earth says:

          NO, the less folks know the better. I can imagine the not-so-good intentions and lengths folks would go to in order to sabotage his livelihood. It’s best they keep that private.

          • TLM says:

            Fabulous, I disagree. I don’t think there is anything wrong with saying he is in pharmaceutical sales or whatever it is. It’s not even saying what company he works for. As the show goes on, someone is going to find out anyhow and post it. When you sign up for a reality show where YOUR LIFE is the subject of the show, to cheat viewers out of basic information is annoying. No one needs to know what company he works for, but just a general category would be nice.

            I found it odd that bravotv.com showed the basketball he had with “Susquehanna (PA) High School” on it in a clip, and then they somehow felt the need to blur this on the basketball. Who cares? He doesn’t live there anymore. Probably most people who live in Soho know exactly which building is theirs from the shot of the outside.

            Kirstie Alley had this Australian (supposedly) guy on her show that ran several weeks ago, and he was known only as “Nick.” Supposedly he was hired as a writer. He wasn’t even credited anywhere, even though he was the subject of an entire episode. She did not respond to any questions about who he is on Twitter. I am wondering if he’s even really a writer, and not just an actor who came in to fulfill that storyline.

            Before anyone goes all Kelly on me, I am NOT suggesting Jason’s an actor, or that he and Bethenny aren’t really married, or anything like that! I am just saying it’s frustrating to put him out there, which is obviously drawing viewers to the show, and then reveal almost nothing about him. I know, I know, it’s only the first episode, but still…

            • Fabulous Earth says:

              I understand your view.

              Maybe it’s just me but I don’t really need or care to know more than you’re offering to share as long as it’s not hurting anyone. I can respect a person’s privacy, celeb or not. Maybe especially cuz I kinda feel like I want to protect B & J from any unwanted crap that can come along with doing a show…and J doesn’t seem like a “reality-tv” person/type but has opted to go along with the program for the sake of his wife and her branding ops.

              It’s just a personal take on it so will agree to disagree on this one 🙂

  104. Mary says:

    You know what? I keep reading comments that refer to all the RH’s silly antics and mean comments and outright cruelty as being “so high school.”

    Please, stop insulting high school girls! As a mother of a young woman who recently graduated from HS, and as a teacher, I really dislike hearing those horrific narcissists,
    Jill, Kelly, and Lu being compared to high school children.

    The HW’s have fully developed frontal cortexi and cerebra. Not so with teens. For the young’uns, there’s still hope that they eventually will see the bitchiness of their ways, the damage it causes to their friendships, and will develop compassion for others as their little brain pans fill out. Sometimes they aren’t even aware of the damage they haven’t we all looked back and remembered some of the cruel and inhumane things we did and said to one another as kids and vehemently wished we could go back and apologize? We have to forgive ourselves and the other little meanies for all that juvenile cruelty.

    The HW’s, on the other claw, are fully grown adults. They also have the added benefit of video to demonstrate their personal culpability, yet they still claim the status of victimhood.

    I would be MORTIFIED if I were to see myself behaving as Kelly and Jill do. I would be tripping all over my leathery self to apologize to everyone! These two seem to be the most emotionally stunted, but without the dewy freshness and years of potential growth ahead of them like high school girls do.

    I hate the way Kelly moves her mouth around. Does she have false teeth?

    • Katiecoo says:

      Good points! It’s more like their development is stuck in JUNIOR high school anyway. Jill and Kelly I mean. I do think it harkens back to Jill being very unpopular in her adolescence and considers this time of her life a “do over”. I liked that B called her out on how all the glam went to her head..she sure changed this season to be way more glamorous and femme fatale ish and she’s a middle aged married woman who the more simple “houssewife” image seemed much more appropriate.

    • lrd851 says:

      the way she moves her mouth is called “jawing” what happens when you have too much cocaine in your mouth. you exagerate your muscles to talkk correctly. kinda like watching an old kung fu movie..

  105. iceNfire says:

    Hello everyone – I just watched the view and can’t figure out what Sherri’s problem was. I’ve never seen such contempt on her face before. Women in general seem to have a problem with Bethenny and reflects poorly on them.

    That’s twice I heard Bethenny say that she will do season 4 depending on the cast. I truly hope that Jill is not invited back and that Kelly can get some help and do season 4. I now this is not a popular stand to take but if Kelly were to be banished from RHONY I fear that she will continue to self destruct and that’s just not good her daughters. Maybe Sonja befriend Kelly and give her the support she needs.

    Sorry Sonja, just sayin’

    • Good point Ice, but that’s dependent on if Kelly gets help. Her behavior hasn’t changed since the filming on the island and seems to be worse. I just don’t think she’ll seek help.

    • Robin says:

      Sherri Shepard is an idiot.You are not an idiot.That is why you can’t figure her out.Simple as that 🙂


  106. moriasheehan says:

    just a note…i was posting as patricia henderson, this is me now.

  107. pfinfl says:

    Who else loved the scene with Cookie in the hallway trying to decide who to go to work with? Sorry if this has already been mentioned but Cookie is adorable! Also loved the scene where Cookie’s head is sticking out of the SG car looking sad about moving. Bethenny’s show is so fun to watch! Favorite scene for me was Jason’s face when Bethenny was ordering food at the restaurant and said she would keep the menu. So, who else wants to say she didn’t eat during her pregnancy?

    Ok, the reunion: I don’t believe anything that comes out of Jill’s mouth when it pertains to Alex. She hates Alex and grasps at anything to knock her down at this point. Jill +Damage Control=Making Her Look Even Worse Than Before The Reunion Show. Jill saying she’s changed? Just because you say it JILL doesn’t make it true! Jill has ALOT to prove to make a believer out of everyone. I thought if she just sat there and acknowledged and apologized …she could have turned it around for herself a bit with viewers. But she continues to make excuses and attack where she has no business attacking.

    And filming with Kelly? Who, after “crazy” island, would want to film with Kelly again? If Bethenny did tell anyone NOT to film with Kelly it has to be because she was the only one all along that knew how CRAZY Kelly really is. She was more than likely trying to protect the other housewives.

    Jill’s forgetfulness comes from a lack of acknowledging her role in everything!

    Also, did anyone else think it strange how Jill, Kelly, and LuAnn would get quiet and just stare at each other, while trying not to roll their eyes, as the Bra’s were speaking?

    I think Simon’s joke about NJHW’s was a spot on FACT. That show needs help!

    And Lynn, if no one can understand you not giving details about Jill and the whole “I have to stop fans from gathering to meet Alex & Simon at their next book stop”, then who cares? I for one believe it after all Jill has tried to do. Don’t need proof or details at this point.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Loved Cookie. Isn’t it strange how Cookie went after some people yet she was almost immediately in love with Max and Max turned out to be the person who impressed Bethenny the most.

      Another Max. Holy cow. Don’t let Kellamity know. She’ll swear that Bethenny has hired Max Palacio (sp) as her assistant.

  108. desertgal66 says:

    When it comes to Kelly, I can’t stand her…but I also have compassion for her. If she is mentally ill-and I believe she is-then we can’t blame her completely for the ways she behaves. I’m not saying that she isn’t a snotty, arrogant hypocrite-she is-but even most of us who are mentally stable have times where control is difficult. When someone has a mental illness, that control can be impossible, through no fault of their own. It’s a rock and a hard place situation. Kelly has a rotten personality. She refuses to control what little is within her ability to control, and she doesn’t have the mental stability to handle the rest. It’s a sad thing.

    Jill’s recent posts on her website…it’s just ridiculous. And, really, what is about Jill and Kelly that they have to talk constantly about how “charitable” they are? That so rubs me the wrong way. The true personal benefit of any philanthropy is the sense of fulfillment one gets from helping others – NOT to satisfy a selfish desire for self aggrandizement. When there is no selflessness involved, then the actions are not all that ‘charitable’. (And posting a couple of sentences about the Gulf oil spill, KELLY, didn’t do crap to anyone.)

    I’ve said it before, if these women were truly “honest…real…genuine…normal…and, In Jill’s case, changed, then they’d have no need to recite it. They would just live it. Actions have always spoken louder than words.

    As for the Jen replacing Alex slant that Jill seems to be nurturing, she might as well give it up. After this season, the majority of viewers want Alex, not that snotty little party planner. That comment Jen made to Kelly about Ramona’s wedding planner really showed her true character – she’ s just another Jill. And I think it really pisses Jill off that Alex has become so popular with viewers this year. After all, if Jill decides someone is ‘toxic’, then that’s the way everyone should feel. But, just because you say it, JILL, doesn’t make it true.

    LuAnn – I could learn to like LuAnn IF she stops playing “The Countess” and starts acting like a real person. For example, the scene at her singing debut where she was talking about her new boyfriend and interacting with him showed a very sweet and genuine side to LuAnn. If she ran with that, and kept her nose out of the petty squabbles, she’d be much more likable.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I agree with everything you said! Including the Countess comments (I posted that last night, that she could win me back==but Jill? NEVER).

      Yeah, Jill’s “change” might have seemed more believable if it went something like this:

      “Bethenny, I want to tell you that I took your words to heart when you said I needed to change, and looking at myself on screen this season I realized it too. So I’ve been going to a therapist since that time and digging deep in to myself and finding out what really drove all that bad behavior,, that I’m so affraid of losing people close to me, I have struggled with very poor self esteem and have sabotaged relationships all my life over that. So I do think I have a way to go but I want to thank you for helping me to grow and want you to know I’m a work in progress but I am working on it”.

      Something like that. This “I’ve changed and you’ll see it tonite” platitude BS is so insulting. IF you’ve changed , the VIEWER will see it without you having to point it out without any proof to back it up. Plus 4 image consultants does not one therapist make. We know too well she’s way motivated to MANIPULATE, includingus, the viewer.

      So, in my opinion, she just dug herself a deeper hole last night.

      • shantygal says:

        And even deeper still when she tweeted from bed laying next to her publicist. Fame is way more importnt to her than any friendship will ever be.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      “LuAnn – I could learn to like LuAnn IF she stops playing “The Countess” and starts acting like a real person. For example, the scene at her singing debut where she was talking about her new boyfriend and interacting with him showed a very sweet and genuine side to LuAnn. If she ran with that, and kept her nose out of the petty squabbles, she’d be much more likable.”

      I’m bummed to say that I hear you on this one. If LuMann stopped shilling for Jillousy and dropped the superior attitude I could definitely like her as a player.

  109. shantygal says:

    What in the name of jellybeans are the producers going to air as Kelly’s lead in footage? Anything they put together will look like they are attacking her. Let’s pretend (cuz it’s Kelly) that they kind of feel bad about how she was portrayed this season and they only include “nice” or “fun” or “real” scenes. What in the hell would they have? I can’t think of anything. Can you?

    Pancakes —no
    Boat—-Oh hell no

  110. Adgirl says:

    Jill must have learned the forgetting & denying from Gloria.

    Gloria: Baby Jill, I smell something. Did you poopy?
    Baby Jill: No! It was Lisa!
    Gloria: I smell it, I see it! Lisa is at school!
    Baby Jill: Alex put it there!

    12 yrs later —
    Jill: Mommy, why did you say I will never have a husband if I am fat?
    Gloria: I never said that! Why are you so mean? Mother is not happy.

  111. Hooked On Housewives says:

    I hear what you are saying about your daughter. She sounds wonderful. This board also has a very classy and level headed poster who is just 18 and is a recent HS graduate. Hope I’m not out of line mentioning her name Boston02127. I have to respectfully disagree though about the majority of high schoolers act in mature, sensible ways. The way I read the posts is that high schoolers per se are not being demeaned. Words are used to denote a time of life when most young adults still have the luxury of being a jerk and it is passed off as growing pains. Just my take. No offense intended.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      response was to @Mary

      • Mary says:

        Oh! No offense taken. I was being silly. I agree, it isn’t really the HS girls being demeaned, it’s the horrible behavior of the grown women that’s being called out. Frankly, comparing these women to badgers would be an insult to the badgers!

    • Squirrels says:

      As my mother in law used to say, “Sometimes you just have to see they don’t have all their brains yet”.

      • Squirrels says:

        Oh shoot, I think she was referring to men. My bad.

        • Hooked On Housewives says:


          • anniieee says:

            HoH …. I think Boston is one of the most amazing young ladies I have ever “talked with” I teach HS so I talk with a lot of them. Intelligent, compassionate, hardworking, together, etc..YOU GO BOSTON!! excuse anything…. 180 days ends toay… I am so tired and very tipsy.

  112. kats2 says:

    Bethenny’s NEW SHOW!!! I just loved it. I thought it was smart, very funny, very interesting but most of all REAL (as real as these shows can get, because let’s not forget it is a show designed to entertain us). I see the yin and yang that balances B & J and why they work as a couple. I can’t wait to see the rest of this series and I have say there is NO ONE ELSE in the current HW franchise who could pull this off.

    • Squirrels says:

      I enjoyed it, too. I just hope we don’t see her and Jason fighting. I’ve seen enough this year.

      • Hooked On Housewives says:

        I really like Jason and Bethenny as a couple. I hope we don’t see too much fighting between them either. Sometimes it is tough for a strong woman who has been alone and done everything by herself, for herself to give up control. I do think that Jason is up for the job. Hope it stays that way.

        • TLM says:

          It was hard for me to see the fighting in last night’s BGM, and like B herself said, it will get exhausting quickly. It seemed like it wasn’t a good sign that he said it was their apartment, not just HER apartment. It is tough enough being in the shadow of someone famous without feeling like you share your home equally.

          Did we really need to see her peeing into a bucket before her wedding?? WTF…was she in the woods? Why exactly couldn’t she use a ladies’ room at the Four Seasons? Unlike many people, I was ok with the pregnancy test scene, but I did not need to see her squatting over a bucket with 1 assistant holding it and the other holding her dress.

          • suebhoney says:

            omg! My husband was horrified by this! I guess being pregnant and in a wedding gown would make peeing in a toilet somewhat tedious but holy cow…that was a bit over the top!

            I too was a little blown away by the fighting / arguing scenes. I really like B but she has a tendency to get really worked up and talk over people. I want Jason to take her gently by the arms and teach her to calm down a little…their communication would be greatly improved.

            • TLM says:

              I am tired of the gross-out factor on RH and related shows generally anymore. How much do we need to be subjected to bathroom business, whether it be of dogs or humans? It has taken up way too much screen time. I feel like someone at Bravo must have a sick fascination with this.

              I appreciate that Bethenny is down to earth, but I don’t need to seeing any more of her peeing, waxing or bodily functions. Doesn’t she have a busy enough life of business ventures, appearances and going out to dinner to put on the show? She needs to be careful she isn’t veering into the territory of such reality shows as Whitney Houston/Bobby Brown, or Anna Nicole. What’s next, episode 3, Bethenny has constipation and Jason gives her an enema? This isn’t what I tuned in for.

  113. just sayin' says:

    Wow, I just went to her website for the first time ever and she really just does not GET it….seriously. Maybe she has just spent too much time breathing Kelly’s air. From a PR perspective she took a small step in the right direction during the first part of the reunion, then stumbled and fell off the damn mountain. She needs to stop, say nothing for awhile and come back in picking up the crumbs B is throwing her and rebuild (I mean she did leave open te possibility she would be on the show next season). I honestly don’t get the B anger (isn’t that the issue we never did) but the entitlement issue will continue to burn people up…we are sick of it. Let me spell it out for you Jill….no you can’t spend months treating people in the most horrible way possible, saying terrible things about then and then just decree IT IS DONE NOW LOVE ME!!! You typically don’t trash respect in a second and once you destroy it you can’t demand it back ,you earn it. You do that by being accountable for your actions, not continuing to blame everybody. Poor, poor Jill…..does anyone happen to know if her PR guy happens to represent Lindsey Lohan as well?

    • Katiecoo says:

      Good points! Yes she did fall off that mountain and Narcissists always think they can do it better (ask any defense attorney) so I doubt she’s really capable of following any good advice.

      • just sayin' says:

        I have a brother like her…he can be a self-entitled jerk. When he gets pissed he says the most horrible, viscous thing he can possibly think of, going for any weakness he perceives. When he is over it, he thinks it’s done and you have to be over it, period. If I won’t accept that from my own brother why in the hell would I accept it from Jill Zarin 😉

        • Monsta says:

          I have a sister just like Jill, she even went to Simmons College and married an older man. She behaves exactly like Jill – no ownership of the things she says/does, and expects you to give her a pass on everything. Like Jill, my sister has expectations going into any situation/relationship. If those expectations are not met, and by the way the expectations are a mystery to the other person, my sister will turn on the other person (friend, family member, child, husband, acquaintence) quickly and with pure venom. She will take steps to really do harm to the other person. Needless to say we are not close.

  114. Lolo says:

    At the very beginning of the reunion, when Andy asked if anyone had taken a Xanax, and everyone was giggling a bit, did anyone hear Kelly say “I don’t do drugs”? Riiiiight.

  115. desertgal66 says:

    On her website, Jill says: “A real friend, not matter what, would have let it go and made up.”

    How would she know?

    • Katiecoo says:

      She loves that “real friend” line. Is there anyone she’s NOT used it on? Andy maybe?

      • iceNfire says:

        I love the part on the reunion when Jill tries to say she didn’t really mean “we’re done” right after they showed of her saying she had to “cut Bethenney out like cancer”

    • Free Ginger (formerly known as wolverinedg) says:

      Correction, a ‘real friend’ would never have done what Jill did in the 1st place. Sheesh, what a cow.

  116. Jill’s comments on her site……wow! She sounds demented and if I were one of her PR people, I would quit!!

    Someone who meant what they said wouldn’t be coming out swinging against Alex like that….the anger and defensiveness are clouding her judgment, no one that had a grip on reality would post those kind of comments after getting such bad press.

    It’s one thing to strategize amongst the women about the filming of scenes, that can be attributed to the unfortunate bitchiness of women, but to plot to bring down B’s new show? And get called out for it…..*smh*

  117. Amber...Real Housewife says:


  118. Squirrels says:

    Jill’s blog –

    “B never wanted to make up. It was all for a TV SHOW and that’s what I was saying last night.”

    Jill – you moron. (walks from the room in disgust in search of a pantry)

  119. yesIwatchthiscrap says:

    OK I have yet to watch the reunion episode….is it worth it? From what I have seen on twitter, and various blogs…it just seems like a rehash of every excuse they have made since the show started to air. I saw the clip where Jill claims she has changed since they were done filming….but it just seems like it’s another line. I just don’t feel like sitting through the reunion if nothing earth shattering has come out.

    • Squirrels says:

      Well, since you’ve followed the story line to date, I would suggest watching it so you can draw your own conclusions. I don’t mean that in an aggressive way. Just a what’s your take kinda thing.

      • just sayin' says:

        I would suggest watching it to, I thought it was good, yes Jill was trying to manipulate and we all saw it coming…. validation rocks :). I will be watching her cry poor me on part 2 and 3 as well. X-(

  120. Adgirl says:

    I can’t decide if Kelly is ill, abusing drugs or this how she has been her entire life.

    Her behavior is so high school; pretty, popular, entitled but dumb bulb.
    “You down there! How dare you speak to me that way! My dad is the mayor. Your dad is the butcher. No one cares about you. I am special. You are not. I don’t have to answer to you. Go away.”

    Kelly treats Jill as a surrogate mother. She hides behind her apron. Jill attacks Kelly’s enemy. It’s a perfect world.

    • error 404 says:

      all 3!

      She’s a petty stuck up mean girl. Always has been, always will be.

      She ‘s mentally ill, and as her illness progresses she loses touch with reality. That’s why she thinks an insult like “You think you’re Madonna” is an attack on her family and lively hood!

      Like most mentally ill people who refuse to admit it or accept help, she self medicates.

      I’ll never like Kiki because under the drug use and mental illness, lies an ugly person. Even if she went to rehab and traded in illegal drugs for prescription drugs, she’d still be “I’m up here, and you’re down here”a t heart. Quieter and more coherent, but still a bitch at heart

    • boston02127 says:

      @Adgirl~Kelly says “you down there” cuz she’s a 7′ giant man/woman.
      Actually she so nuts around here we’d refer to her as 6′ of Columbine.

  121. Squirrels says:

    Any amusing links today?

  122. suebhoney says:

    Question for all of you: What, if anything, can Jill do to redeem herself in your eyes and make her “likeable” again?

    I ask because I was thinking about the lunch Jill had with B on the last episode. For a nanosecond…Jill was apologizing for her part in all of this and seemed somewhat genuine…and for the split nanosecond, I was thinking…okay good! Maybe she really “gets it” and this is a start. But then…alas….it would appear she doesn’t. So I got to thinking…what would make me like Jill again? Would fans like her again if Bethanny had forgiven her and resumed the friendship? Would Jill have to go to shrink to fix her character flaws? Would she have to stay out of the limelight and return a truly changed person?

    I guess I would consider her again if she owned up to all her wrong doing and gave a sincere apology backed up by real actions. I don’t know…curious what you all think…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bethenny will not go back to the friendship she had because she is no longer in that place – her life moved forward, her dreams are coming true and she is focused on having a positive life. She has been saying it so nicely….she has no place for Jill in her life!

    • Katiecoo says:

      I would change my mind about her as quickly as I’d redeem my ex boyfriend who brought his little “plaything” to my home (and bed) while I was working out of town (not HIS house mind you, we didn’t live together). Some things are unforgettable and if you DO forget them, you’re just asking to get stung again. For me, it started at the beginning. Jill at the FIRST episode telling someone she cut Bethenny out “like a cancer”. Of course then she proceeded to pummel that “tumor” the entire season. But she lost me at that cancer . remark which by the way she has NEVER addressed or been called out on. Particularly malignant considering she also played that “cancer card” all season as the worst thing in the world someoen can experience.

    • dee says:

      Jill is her own worst enemy. The intent is there for her to be a better person, but she just falls into the same pitfalls of her meanness. Can she change, sure. But it’s going to take some serious introspection on her part.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      I was thinking of this earlier as well and have given it thought. After seeing all of the things she did, there is no way she can redeem herself for me. It was shocking and horrible and actually painful for me to watch what she did to Bethenny in real life and the lengths she went to. Admitting it, apologizing, “changing herself” just wouldn’t be enough for me to want to ever watch her on television again.

      I don’t want to spend my time watching someone capable of what she did. I do not think anything she could possibly do would be genuine, anyway. She is who she is. She even said she wouldn’t change. She just wants it all to be over and is sorry she is not liked, but not for what she did, really.

      And, actually, she has now turned her scorch and burn policy onto Alex, so nothing will change with her. I am just sorry if she is ever given a platform again.

      I really won’t watch NY season next time if she is on it, and that is a liberating feeling. I don’t watch a lot of TV, but I did enjoy the NY franchise until this season. It has been riveting as it all played out on TV and real life. But I don’t ever want to do it again.

      • dee says:

        Let me just offer another view on not having Jill on RHoNY next season;
        Do you remember the first season of Big Brother? Nobody watched it because they had just one antagonizing asshole. The viewers really disliked him and he was the first one voted out. That left us with boring episodes filled with boring people that did absolutely everything that was boring. CBS did not have control of who they wanted on, but Bravo does.
        I’m thinking Jill’s only asset in getting called back is that, for good or bad, she brought in viewers. We like to watch people that are not like us. We need to see people that are not like us. Perhaps these people makes us feel better about ourselves? You know, because we are not assholes.
        Bravo doesn’t care if we feel good about ourselves or not. But it goes without saying that the more viewers Bravo has the more money they make. And that is what it is all about.

        • dee says:

          And even if Bravo gets rid of Jill, they will cast another one who will be just as bad. Then we would have to transerfer our anger to some other awful woman. It’s a never ending cycle. And Bravo wants to keep it that way.

        • Scorpiosue says:

          I agree that people do come to see what antics Jill is going to do next on the show, but the biggest episode of the season was the last supper episode which barely had Jill in it. I think Jill is one of those people that fame went to her head. It’s really unfortunate, but she sabotaged herself.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill can’t change because she really doesn’t believe she has too! None of these ladies are important to her – empty words! Cue the crocodile tears.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Jill’s expectations of change are quite simple. WE are supposed to do the changing, not Jill.

      Jill will never change. I’m not sure that she is capable of doing anything that would even be a small honest step in the right direction.

      Jill is all about power and control, not about redemption.

    • boston02127 says:

      @suebhoney~Nothing. Jill could do nothing at this point to ever make me like her. Even if she became a nun. I would always know she had that nasty crap in her. A leapord doesn’t change it’s spots.

    • Stella says:

      I think for one thing, she would have to learn to live with some discomfort in a relationship without resorting to “we’re done” the minute she doesn’t get her way.

  123. Mel2 says:

    One of my very favorite comments from Part I–when Betheny told Jill: “Jason doesn’t really care for you.” YEAH!!!! Jill was speechless (for once).

  124. dee says:

    I don’t know if this was already talked about, but Danielle denies she leaked the tape, but hopes to make a lot of money off of it. *lowers and shakes head*. Jacqueline should not pat herself on the back for tweeting that Danielle put the tape out there herself. I think Danielle’s actions are very transparent in everything she does.

    • Jessie says:

      Jacqueline should worry about that mean and nasty daughter she has there and not about Danielle. Danielle is a skanky whore and we all know it. She sucks as a mother and is a psycho friend.

      But I wish that by being so did give these damn other women ammo about her. They really should be concentrating on themselves. Between Teresa and Jacqueline only talking about Danielle all the time they take away form their own horrid horrid issues. People are talking about Danielle more than Teresa and Jacqueline (well it’s Jacqueline’s daughter but she made her).

      Hell they probably set up Danielle w the guy she made the tape with and released the tape themselves lol!!!!

  125. Squirrels says:

    Here’s a fun link for those Millionaire Matchmaker fans

  126. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    I love that B’s showing it all on her show warts and all. As a woman who got married in her 30’s, I totally understand where she is coming from. Everything is YOURS. Even when you move in with someone,you were so used to living alone, with your boyfriend as an occasional guest, that you still treat him as a guest. You love them but are having growing pains as you’ve lived independantly for so long.

    Someone mentioned that as B catered huge events and went to so many events that it seemed she was stressing the visit from his friends. She probably went to those events and was dying to come home to the quiet of her apartment to be with Cookie. And as friends from out of town crashing with them…it is pretty presumptious of his friends to think they can just come into town for a few days and stay with a newly engaged couple. Jason, as a single man, may have opened his place like a college dude, but when he became a couple, friends have to realize that someone else’s comfort level has to be considered. I think they should have rented a hotel room for the couple if they were coming soley to see them.
    Bethenny definitely has to loosen up and will. When you want marriage and children, everyone has to bend. Soon she will allow Jason to watch tv on a recliner in the living room, while she scolds Cookie as Bryn pulls her tail. You gotta love it.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      YOU are spot on girlfriend!
      When you marry in your late 30’s and throw a baby in the mix immediately is going to be fun to watch (someone else do it since I did it already). By your mid 30s, you have a career, have built your nest and have pretty clearly defined what you like to do and don’t do what you don’t like attitude. Bethenny and Jason will be needing all the support, compromising skills and large doses of humor they can get!

  127. lillybee says:

    I just noticed an odd thing. Kelly says that she doesn’t drink wine but she sure does have a lot of wine in her apartment.

  128. Jessie says:

    So why is it that there is nobody out there that “knew” Jill or Kelly back when? Like high school or in their 20s? There has to be ALOT of wronged people by those two out there but as far as I know not a peep or picture (besides Kelly model ones) are out there. I find it strange…

    • Squirrels says:

      Perhaps Jill made a preemptive strike. Gag orders, lol.

    • dee says:

      Maybe Ginger Zarin can find out people that Jill wronged.

    • Ellabean says:

      Jessie – I have thought the same thing too.

      I posted here yesterday that I’d love to see Jill Kamen’s high school graduation picture. She is from one of the infamous “five towns” on Lawn Giland, you know. Point being: she is still very much in her New York and its environs backyard – its not like she grew up in Iceland.

      Snark aside – I , too, would think that give her rotten personality – that she surely has wronged people through out her life and has a list of enemies. So one would think that someone would come forward with a story or a photo of
      “Jill Kamen Shaprio Zarin” past.

    • desertgal66 says:

      Because people who knew Kelly way back when are still hiding under their beds, hoping that whackjob doesn’t come back.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Those who knew her then didn’t like her then.
      Those who would have dirt to spill are probably afraid of what she will do to them!

  129. Hooked On Housewives says:

    After two seasons (can’t remember if she did it in season one) I think I know why Jillousy has to keep looking for Bawby all the time and why she isn’t wearing her wedding rings anymore. Bawby has told Jillousy that he has his eye on the next Mrs Zarin and as long as she (Jillousy) doesn’t make a fuss about it she can still pretend they have a wonderful marriage. I think he is taking a page out of Count DeLesseps book. LOL.

  130. NMhousewife says:

    Here is an interesting link:


  131. Ellabean says:

    I have a theory on how Bravo will allow Jill to permanently exit the Real H of NYC series itself:

    They will ‘ allow’ her a graceful “Jeana Exit” from Orange County.

    Jill will come back next season, say for 3 episodes. Each episode will give Jill a opportunity to do a mini-makeover to the viewer on perception of her personality; tie up loose ends; talk about her next big projects in life (?); say how wonderful her life and family are and that she still runs with a fabulous circle of friends. Jill’s final episode will showcase her perfect family and life – like Jeana did with all her 3 bratty kids finally behaving and acting somewhat dignified and having a cliche little family back yard bar-b-cue.

    This will be Jill’s swan song from the series all together. I will bet that Jill and her handlers/ agent are negotiating this to salvage what ever possible remaining TV facetime they can get for her.

  132. TLM says:

    “Honest by Bethenny” Skin care line due to launch the first quarter of 2010.
    Preview of packaging: http://twitpic.com/1vvldo

    • Amber...Real Housewife says:


      Thanks for the heads up.

      This Bethenny witch is gonna kill me! LOL

      I got her books and CD. I now have to get the Exercise DVD and now a new skin care line?

      I’m gonna get shot (by hubby). I snuck in the books and cd under 30. Told him 20. I coud sneak the DVD later and if the skin care is affordable…i’ll try something after I finish my OLAY products.

      I’m so proud of her and encourage anyone interested in her books if you don’t do amazon, go to ebay and get them used. The lifestyle tips are her “voice” in your ear. You’ll get it and they are great!

      • RileyKitty says:

        LMAO Amber…. I tend to shave $ on what I spend on crap when I tell hubby too. I will also throw in “it was on clearence & they might not have any next time” on occasion. He rarely asks anymore though 🙂 I too will get the DVD & skin care, if affordable.

  133. vgirl511 says:

    This was on Jill’s twitter:

    Jason was very nice to me when we worked out together. He didn’t have to do it if I was such a horrible person did he?
    about 16 hours ago via web

    Is she talking about Bethenney’s Jason in response to Bethenney’s comment that Jason doesn’t really care for Jill? They worked out together?

    • Adgirl says:

      possible explanation – Jason is a gentleman.

      • vgirl511 says:

        Yes, I totally agree that would be the explanation. Obviously he has much more class than Jill.

      • Scorpiosue says:

        Like Alex said, “basic civility”. Is she so deluded to think that Jason would be all hunky dory with her after the way she treated Bethenny? No, he has class and is what real men should aspire to be.

    • She is veering into Kellyland. She should go on an extended vacation and let it blow over, she is looking worse with every comment and tweet, I almost feel bad……almost

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jason is a gentleman and he doesn’t understand Jill’s kind of mean, self absorbed personality.

  134. iceNfire says:

    I say just kick Jill to the curb. Wasn’t it just yesterday, or maybe 2 days ago that she got caught using fake names to comment on Advocate? She will never learn that she’s only dragging out the inevitable in that viewers are smarter than her, viewers don’t like her, viewers don’t believe anything she says, and nobody can continuously lie and get away with it on the internet.
    I hate Jill Zarin and don’t want to see her anywhere on TV.

  135. TLM says:

    I actually think this one, from last year, is better than the current Season 3 cartoon above.

  136. pfinfl says:

    Jill speaks: http://jillzarin.com/latest-news/welcome-back-the-day-after-the-storm/

    If you can stomach it…go read it! I really hope she gives the show up. She has not changed. She is so upset about Amazon. Another unapologetic non-acknowledgment of her having anything to do with it!

    And why did she stop posting her blogs to Bravotv? I wonder if she has already been fired?

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Maybe it is because she can’t delete the Bravo blogs as easily as her comments from her other pages. Jill is Quickdraw McGraw in the delete competitions.

      • HD says:

        I agree. She can’t control Bravo comments but she can control her own. She is a coward that can’t face the music. What makes stuff go away is to face it and get it over with. Those 4 PR people she is working with need to be fired!

        • DarkSonnet says:

          She’s paying them with Kelly’s jellybeans so she doesn’t have much to lose other than her stellar reputation… Oh wait… never mind…

    • Kotagirl says:

      I read it earlier today. It just about made me throw up. There is nothing a hate more than a finger-pointing hypocrite. And if she references that pretentious, holier-than-thou book one more time, I will go completely insane!!! If the advice they offer in that book is so great why does she need PR people, why is she getting nasty messages from viewers, why are her “friends” running for the hills? I could go on, but frankly I would cramp my fingers and run out of space, and I just don’t give a damn. Is it possible for the collective group of Jill-haters to petition the Courts for a Gag (not order, and actual gag)? While I would never wish Cancer on anyone, I have to say I wouldn’t be broken up if Jill got Cancer of the vocal cords and they had to be removed.

  137. pfinfl says:

    Sorry if this one has already been posted….and a warning that you may see your lunch again after reading it!


    • error 404 says:


      Kiki is going to cry when she reads this!

    • HD says:

      SMH! She is already trying to put her bid in. I think she is gonna spin this like, “Bethanny is gone and now we can focus on us and how positive and charitable we all are. Kelly actually gets jeans donated to Goodwill and I give away fabric and mention it later on to those that I gave it to.” With Bethanny gone Jill will feel like she has the run of the show, like she is the big dog on top again.

      • jb8 says:

        I laughed out loud because I thought I read “…Kelly actually gets donated to Goodwill…” Then I re-read it and realized my error.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      OMG – I’m sorry, and I don’t mean to quibble here but that article requires a more stringent warning!

      Just when you think that Jill might be done giving, she proves us wrong.

      “And of course, as with all reality television stars these days, I had to ask Zarin if she has a secret sex tape.

      “Do I have my own personal library? No,” she answered with a laugh, “but are there things possible in a vault that we own that are personal? Maybe.”

      She added, “A lot of people have hot videos of themselves that they don’t want published. People who say they don’t or wouldn’t, I don’t know if I believe them.”

      Who’s ready for One Night With Jill & Bobby?”

      Heading for my laundry room for the clorox to bleach my eyeballs at the thought of that vision.

    • Squirrels says:

      ok, you are correct. That was gross. lol

  138. iceNfire says:

    MickeyMouth – I keep forgetting to say thank you for email, it was a great help.

  139. Bravo fan says:

    I tried to post a question on Jillzarin.com regarding amazon. “Jill okay u are not J.Samples, but what about S.Saunders,the fake reviewer who threatened the number 1 amazon reviewer for giving your book a bad review? You did not do that did you?” She deleted the comment but it is interesting that she claimed she is not J.Samples. Could it be that she can not discuss the S.Saunders episode because it can be proved? But she is still trying to snowball her fans by saying she is not J.Samples. I think there is something to this. What do u guys think?

    • yesIwatchthiscrap says:

      LOL I asked the same thing. She skirted right past the Susan Saunders idenity.

  140. Adgirl says:

    Jill should go on a six month cruise with no internet connection or cell phone and re-boot.
    She has a very unhealthy & obssessive relationship with herself and her “image”.

    You know, the three mean girls: ME, MYSELF and I!

  141. WindyCityWondering says:

    It costs nothing to be nice, but it could cost you everything if you are mean.

  142. iceNfire says:

    About Bravo not deleting blogs, Jill’s last one states “Allyson was preparing her final college essays that were due before Thanksgiving and I could not leave before they were finished.” This was her excuse for not going on the yacht vacay. (seriously, how does Ally’s essay have anything to do with where Jill is?)
    Hoping that the real reason is addressed on reunion and Bravo blog stays up for a very long time, but I got a screen shot of it for my I Hate Jill Zarin folder. lol

    • pfinfl says:

      okay…i was wondering about that the other day. Jill said that she had explained that to Ramona. I thought she meant at the lunch. But not sure. So, when I watched that episode the other day, she did not say she couldn’t go for ANY reason. I never heard her say anything at the lunch about Ally. Now, it could have been edited… but I doubt it!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        First at Ramona’s lunch Jill did not give her any excuse not to go except maybe infer that her attendance would depend on who else was going. Then at her dinner with LuAnne she timelined her and Bawby’s trip overlapping but didn’t so she could go. I think it was talking head Jill/her blog at Bravo where she used Ally first and then during her grand entrance she used her daughter again.

  143. Squirrels says:

    Did anyone notice in the introduction portion of the reunion that Kelly was the only one to sport the full mink oil face look?

    Ok, that was mean, but true.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And her hair will get greasier as the reunion progresses.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Squirrels~ Kelly had on a Tarzan dress and the one strap of the dress was on the side of her big boob. Kelly’s boobs (.) ( . )

  144. MickeyMouth says:

    Great blog Lynn. Part One of the reunion did not fail and if they are hitting this hard right out of the gate Monday night should be a doozy.

    My newest: chop: http://mickeymouth1.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/jillzarinkellydoll.jpg

    If you are interested in viewing all the ones I have done so far: http://mickeymouth1.wordpress.com/

  145. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    How did Jill try to stop the Chicago Soiree?

    Conspiracy 1001

    1. Emailed SILEX and asked them to not to go as she will never forgive them in the future and will be forced to vote them off the Housewives show when BRAVO asks who she wants to stay?

    2. Emailed SILEX and said attending the soiree shows dissention within the ranks of the housewives and it will hurt the show.

    3. Baawwbby, aka Jill at the computer, emailed SILEX telling them Jill was distraught and crying, her feelings hurt because of their betrayal. How could they hang out with hater suburban moms when Jill did so much for them. Remember the fabric?

    4. Jill called BRAVO to complain that SILEX was hanging with a blogger responsible for IHJZ, demanding they stop SILEX from attending.

    5. She called CAGNEYS(?) saying she was going to throw a party for 200 people but was changing her mind since they allowed a party for SILEX hosted by LYNN. However, if they canceled the soiree, she’d think about it and send them her book.

    6. She called the fire department stating that maximum occupancy was exceeded at the bookstore. Also she smells smoke.

    • vilzvet says:

      Heh heh, good ones and quite a bit of truth to a few of them!?!

      • Adgirl says:

        #4 sounds about right ….. notice the “threats & harrassment” were never mentioned until AFTER the book signing.

        Ergo- Jill finds out about Lynn aka IHJZ hosting a cocktail party.
        Jill screams at Bravo that Alex is in cahoots with IHJZ who have threatened her!!!
        … oh wait, never heard about no threats? …. I got your threats right here. And I’m gonna tell everybody in town.
        “Hello, Page Six …”

  146. Jessie says:

    So TWOP has a forum for BGM…so far there is a pretty even amount of hate vs. love. But seriously the haters talk about Jill and some slyly defend her and trash bethenny and totally trash alex/simon and/or rhny.

    Jill has NOTHING to do with BGM so shouldn’t some warnings be coming about “only discussing what is on the show” but since it is against beth/alex/simon and for jill why do i suspect that warning won’t be coming????

    I didn’t bet to finish BGM yet or see the alex/simon scenes but people are trashing them in so many posts and really harshly. Were they that prevalent (does that word work? i can’t think of the word lol) on her show last night?

    • Adgirl says:

      I don’t go there anymore. Or the “freeforums” board that was created between TWOP and IHJZ.

      I can probably list the handles off the top of my head who is slamming BGM. They hate her. Period. OK, but just own it like we do here.
      I quite visiting when there were 6 pages complaining about B wearing braids at breakfast on the yacht (only a media whore would wear them!). So personal. And why did I come to believe that every single bitcher was 60 lbs over weight and hasn’t been out in the sunshine for 3 years.

      • Jessie says:

        You are smarter than me to have quit them completely. But I def. won’t be going back to that board. Here we all have opinions and lots of info is going around, but that info can all be backed up. The people over there are talking out there asses. Half of them said they didn’t even watch it cuz they hate her so much! Like ok than why are you writing on the forum about something you know nothing about?

      • RileyKitty says:

        andme is there for sure talking about how B once played a topless serial killer. It is her mantra. beat. the. dead. horse. LOL

        • lillybee says:

          Just a thought, could andme quite possible be JZ. I remember a poster on TWOP saying that.

        • Jessie says:

          There was a poster who brought up B trying acting (very snarkily) so you must be a psychic!

    • Squirrels says:

      I saw today the first (for me anyway) advertisement for twop on Bravo TV. It begs the question…

      Is Bravo desperate to keep this forum going? or…..

      Is Bravo willing to grab any form of fame whore to keep BRAVO on Page 6?

  147. Smompy says:

    desertgal wrote:
    “First off, I have to say that Kelly’s interview about Bethenny and motherhood did NOT contain any Bethenny bashing. It was mostly gibberish about breast feeding, rainbows, unicorns, lollipops, etc. I’m guessing that Alex may have confused that interview with another, because Kelly HAS bashed Bethenny in the press. But, Kelly was telling the truth when she said that she didn’t bash Bethenny in that specific interview. (Not that I’m usually up for defending Kellamity, but she was being honest.)”

    Sorry if this was already discussed (my page is all screwy today and comments are strewn everywehere) but in Alex’s defense, I don’t believe she actually accused Kelly of bashing Bathenny in that article, only of talking about her, or mentioning her name, or something like that. Because IIRC Kelly had claimed that she never has never and would never mention Bethenny’s name in the press. I’ll have to watch the rerun to make sure I’m 100% right about this, but that’s is how I recall it.

    What I found funny about that Gawker interview was that Kelly seemed to actually understand the humor/irony of their asking her to give Bethenny (the woman allegedly trying to murder her babies) advice. about mothering

    It begins:
    “We thought it would be fun to reach out to you about what advice you’d give to Bethenny now that she’s expecting.”

    “You guys are so bad. I love it! This’ll be a great article. I think it’s hysterical.”
    Obviously she got the joke…for a change

    I LOL’d when, after Kelly told the interviewer she would never comment on Bethenny because that’s not her style, the interviewer replied with:

    “Of course not.”

    I, naturally, interpreted that response as pure sarcasm. Kelly, naturally, did not:)

    • desertgal66 says:

      You’re right, Alex didn’t accuse Kelly of bashing Bethenny in that article, just that Kelly did mention Bethenny. But, in fairness, the interviewer ASKED Kelly if she had any advice to give Bethenny about mothering. So, it was the reporter who brought Bethenny into the interview, not Kelly.

      That said, though, Kelly HAS mentioned Bethenny in other articles/interviews and on Facebook and Twitter, so her position that she never references Bethenny is a lie.

  148. WindyCityWondering says:

    Kelly’s blog on Bravo states:
    “Compete with yourself and cooperate with others.”
    I know how to do the later but I can’t figure out how to do the former.

  149. MAMAZ says:


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      But do you know why? I have been asking myself that question since Season 1, Episode 1 – and I still am!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      awwwww, no more singing. I have so many alternative lyrics now in an attempt to get that voice out of my head. “Monkeys can’t trash my ass.”

    • Squirrels says:

      Assuming she can sing, and with what this whole thing has cost her out of pocket, I’m surprised she didn’t have a sound tech.

      Oh wait!!! THIS is why Andy loves it. BRAVO paid for the whole shebang!!! Got to recoup the outlay.

      I love a lemonade induced epiphany.

      • DarkSonnet says:

        Did you happen to have said epiphany on a molehill/mountain? ;o)

        • Squirrels says:

          I was sitting on a rainbow, petting my one true friend, the unicorn, all the while spitting out teeth destroyed by fructose.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I don’t think she CAN sing or write lyrics either. Even Bethenny’s diplomatic answer to Andy last night about her song was weak – did you catch the arrogance is learned ditty as they went to commercial. ..

    • Stella says:

      You know, I really think this is a hoot! I kinda am starting to like LuAnn because of this. She needs to drop the whole countess crap and go with this act. She HAS to have a sense of humor, don’t you think?

  150. Noreen says:

    Has anyone seen’s Kelly youtube upload of her “cool” nautical fashion tip. This woman is so sad and desperate. And yet, at the same time, she is so condescending.

  151. Squirrels says:

    First off – I give great kudos to B for replying to J’s remark, “I don’t want to bring this crap up anymore” with, “I understand”. She meant it.

    Immediately following, J goes into a diatribe about having a … what was it, bad day, bad summer, bad karma? Voila, guess who is the scapegoat? Her own daughter.

    I’m getting really tired of Jill infusing Ally into everything that has no explanation.

    I would spit if I knew how.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      That’s ok, I just spit for you. Opps it landed on those green, discount Louies. I’d say I was sorry Jill but she never looks down so she will not notice.

  152. vgirl511 says:

    Sorry if this has been posted already. You have to listen to LuAnn singing , but seeing the interns laughing is worth it.


    • Char212 says:

      Sorry, I just can’t listen to her again. I’d rather rip my finger nails out then go through that again lol.

    • kokuanani says:

      Two best comments at Gawker:

      1) that lady should not sing outside her car — with the windows rolled up; and

      2) that song needs more cowbell.

  153. MNSUE says:

    I too have a daughter who just graduated. Over the last few years, especially since she has had her license, I have “let her go”. That is the natural order of things. They are supposed to start spreading their wings, taking control whatever you want to call it.

    Never mind the fact that that is what they want too. Everyone knows it. Teens seperate from their parents.

    I understand Jill saying she is having an emotional day here and there. That said, I will go out on a limb and say parenting a senior in high school (a “good” kid like Ally) is in no way a full time job. NO WAY.

  154. WindyCityWondering says:

    Here’s a thought to ponder.
    Jill claims 4 PR people but maybe it is just 4 minimum wage minion monkeys trolling the internet for things she can react too.
    The only PR she was probably given was to keep her mouth closed, her fingers off the keyboard and her face off the tv.

    • Squirrels says:

      Freaks me out to imagine Jill having a carpetbag sleepover with supposed professionals.

      I’m no PR specialist but I surely wouldn’t sleep on Jill’s sofa. Oh, hell no.

      • DarkSonnet says:

        Well, we know the floor is also out… And I wouldn’t be thrilled to be eating/drinking with any food related utensils that were in that sink.

        Just sayin…

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Oh Sonnet, you are the poo (which is a compliment)! And speaking of poo, where is GingerZarin today?

  155. Hater says:

    I wish Jill and Danielle would speak like grown women instead of teenagers with their “shout out” and “word up” bullshit. I want to pull an Elvis and shoot the TV every time one of these dipsticks tries to be hip. You’re not hip, people.

    Jill, seriously: fire.your.hair.stylist. That dress and fugly shoes (CL or not) didn’t do a thing for you.

    I loooooooved it when Bethenney told that bitter harridan Jill that she didn’t know where Jill would fit in her new life *and* that Jason didn’t like her! – what a blow but it was delivered with more class than Jill deserves.

  156. Squirrels says:

    Quote of Reunion Season #3, Part#1 –

    Betheny to Jill –

    “… need a court reporter for you”.

    ( … = indecipherable )

    So far my vote for Snark of the Year.

  157. Fabulous Earth says:

    Jill not blogging on Bravo is a big F—You to Bravo imo. I’ve always felt this.

    • That may be why Bravo seems to have opened up jill’s last blog for more comments. I have to go back and look to be sure, but seems like there were a lot more negative comments after the finale show.

  158. Ellabean says:

    Reality Tea says of Jill’s reunion hair style:

    “Jill was channeling 80′s porn star with her over teased hair”.

    • kokuanani says:

      I like the remark(s) by one or more people on this blog that Jill looked like a buffalo.

  159. Fabulous Earth says:

    Kelly walking off? Was this part of their (Jill and Kelly) plan???

    Jill: Well I’m gonna start crying and then get up and walk off. I suggest you do the same.

    Kelly: Okay!

    After Kelly walks off***
    Jill thinking to herself: Dammit Kelly, you’re supposed to cry first! This bitch can’t do anything right!!! Argghhhh!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly was practically sitting in Jill’s lap – she HAS to walk off because in Kelly’s world Monkey see Monkey do……. And I am not surprised at Kelly leaving because she practiced on the vacation alot.

  160. Billie Pommeranz says:

    Jill Zarin recapping last nights reunion show and taking calls on Lisawexler.com any minute.

  161. MidwestMom says:


    from gawker. Where Kelly talks trash about Bethany before the season had started. Which she denied EVER doing on the reunion. Poor KrazyKreepyKelly.

    • Jennifer says:

      Some one tweet this to the HW esp Kelly

    • msgirl says:

      I’m all for calling out the crazy. But can you point out where in that article Kelly talks about Bethenny? Maybe I am missing something?

  162. Shadowsnomore says:

    Been busy so I haven’t had time to comment. I will give my 2 cents later. Read this review and found it funny and sums up pretty much the same things I felt!


  163. degroohj says:

    Lynn, thanks for answering my question about Danielle in your blog…makes sense since the Jersey show has been pretty boring! I was just curious 🙂

    As always, thanks for the post!

  164. Jessie says:

    Squirrels mentioned tweets being kinda quite today. I do not tweet but love reading what gets posted here (mostly because you guys decipher it for me!) But why is it quite? Literally for the last week there have been tons of tweets posted here and today (besides what our lovely Lynn posted) there has been none. Just curious if they are tweeting and its just not good enough to post here, or if they just aren’t posting, including Teresa? Even if not about her pitiful bankrupt life but about the reunion? She has always been so vocal before about the nyc gals.

  165. Sofi says:

    Sherri Shepard’s comment comparing Bethenny to Omarosa didn’t make much sense because Bethenny is very popular and O was the “villain” everyone loved to hate. If Sherri seemed hostile to B, I wonder why. Comparing B to Elizabeth was a more apt comparison, but that didn’t seem to go over too well with the ladies of the View. When B said that, they acted as if she had left a stink bomb.
    Are these ladies JZ acolytes?

    • mariareads says:

      There is a reason I never watch these shrews on The View. A pack of harpies who detest anyone they don’t absolutely love. Then they fawn over them and it is sickening. I thought they treated B like she was something stinky in the room. Shame on them. I thought Whoopie was better than that, though. Shame on her too. Glad I’m not supporting that POS show. Who the hell do these women think they are? Most of them are over the hill, has been, never was and unattractive. Jealous much View girls?

  166. desertgal66 says:

    I really had to laugh when Kelly said: “Alex McCord. Do not put words in my mouth.” Why not? It’s the only way to get her to say anything coherent.

    Did anyone else notice the fur thingie that Kelly was wearing around her wrist? It looked like a bunch of those lucky rabbit feet sewn into a bracelet. Or else it was some more of her hideous feathers.

    Jill’s bracelets were as fugly as her shoes. Please stop jewelry shopping at the dollar store, JILL.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      So which came first………the discounted Louies or the fugly jewelry? My subliminal fashionista meter is Jill was green with evny….

    • shantygal says:

      Kelly made those bracelets at “camp”.

  167. moriasheehan says:

    i love your blog Lynn, so does everyone else, apparently. went to run errands, gone 1 hour and i had clicked on the followup entries to my email and i had 119 new emails all from this blog. love you all, so nice to share thoughts and read yours. always something funny and smart. they should have Bravo do a show on this blog! Funny people! BTW, Jimmy Kimmel’s RH is a riot.

  168. NMhousewife says:

    This is part of an interview with a staff writer for Gawker that I thought had a nice take on Jill this season:

    “Was the season as a whole about Jill Zarin’s fall and eventual redemption, LuAnn’s transformation from sad divorcee to a pop star, Bethenny’s journey from young business lady to mature mother, Alex finally growing a pair, Ramona unquenchable thirst for pinot grigio? All of these? None of these? What does it all mean?”

    “This season was about Jill falling down. I don’t know that I can put it any more succinctly. Jill skated out there in her outfit, wanting everyone to watch, demanding everyone watch, and then she fell down. And then she didn’t even continue to skate. She just limped off the ice and went to go sulk. I think that’s a pretty accurate sum-up of the whole season. Jill fell down. And we all came tumbling after.”

  169. Alexa Rose says:

    I’m guessing everybody has made it over to jillzarin.com to read her response to the reunion. It’s like her PR people prepped her for the reunion and then quit. What do you think of my post:

    Jill: You are the greatest. You are perfect and never do or say anything wrong. These women attack you because they are jealous they cannot be perfect and rich like you. Alex is especially jealous because she knows someone so amazing would never want to be friends with someone that is beneath her and weird: you associate only with people with royal titles. B doesn’t get it…if it weren’t for you she would be nowhere. She should have really considered naming her drink or books after you. Your book is excellent. I have learned so much from it. I wish you were my mother so I could have been aware of your secrets early on. Really, it is a literary classic. I love you, never change, stay strong! XOXO

    P.S. These jelly beans are delicious!

  170. desertgal66 says:

    The one thing that really did bother me last night was when Bethenny said, again, that she didn’t know how serious Bawby’s “procedure” was at the time. Jill responded with “I know that now.”

    She knows that now? But…but…but it was JILL who told Bethenny that Bawby was just going to have a procedure done. It was JILL who failed (or chose not to) to tell Bethenny how serious it was. It was JILL who knew Bethenny was in the middle of a book tour at the time. It was JILL who knew that Bethenny had sent flowers to Bawby in the hospital. It was JILL who based the entire freaking argument on Bethenny’s “insensitivity”, even though JILL knew the facts. It was JILL who then refused to reconsider when B. tried to explain this to her at the fashion week confrontation, and it was also JILL who refused to reconsider when B. tried to explain this to her at the confrontation in Ramona’s apartment.

    Her statement that she “knows it now” is so transparent, Saran wrap looks murky by comparison. Another example of Jill refusing to own her behavior and running off at the mouth, and now trying to cover it up.

    JILL engineered this entire melodramatic breakup and made sure that it appeared on the show. She blindsided Bethenny by making the end of their friendship very, very public-and then she whined at the reunion that she wanted to make up with Bethenny “privately” at Ramona’s apartment and Bethenny wouldn’t let her.

    Gotta agree with Bethenny on this one. Since Jill chose to make the breakup public, then she shouldn’t have objected to an equally public making up.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      what is truly sad but telling, is that Jill has had many months to review her behavior and what she said………..she can’t change the story, she can’t admit what she did was hurtful…….and she can’t understand why she should!

    • Alexa Rose says:

      “Since Jill chose to make the breakup public, then she shouldn’t have objected to an equally public making up.” Completely agree 100%. The reason she didn’t want a public make up is that she knew that ALL the things she did to B would be made public, and not just the apparent ones she stated.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill and Bethenny’s feud: was it 1)get a hobby? 2)you weren’t there for me when Bawby had his procedure, or 3) Bethenny is getting more attention than me and maybe even her own show?

      The not filming with other housewives conversation was enlightening and explains alot about who did film with whom this season. LuAnn did herself no favor with her “some housewives did say it” and she didn’t say what she did! Silence at times is also a lie.

  171. Jennifer says:

    About Kelly saying it was B’s PR team who put her kids in press, don’t you think by now they would have sent a copy of that press to a blog just to prove it. Like ‘ oh here it’s true’ . Someone on this blog would have found it for sure.

    Also Jill claims on Twitter she filmed cameo in Jonathan Whateverhisnameid show on E- note to KK I wouldn’t be watching that if Jillzilla on and I did watch last season

    • desertgal66 says:

      Exactly. Kelly pretty much said last night that it was Bethenny’s PR team who put negative things about her and her kids in the press…but an Internet search reveals nothing that matches Kelly’s description-not from B. , not from B’s PR team, not from “anonymous sources”.

      While there have been a few articles in the last couple of years that hinted at Kelly’s “loopiness”, the real onslaught of negative press didn’t start until after her meltdown in the Virgin Islands. And I think it is very much a given that B. and her PR team didn’t plant any of those stories. They didn’t need to. Kelly handed that scoop to the press on national television.

      So, either, Kelly is a liar, or she is just repeating what Jillsie told her. Either way, she can’t back it up, because there is nothing to back it up with.

      • Adgirl says:

        I thought she meant they were “shopping” it to various columnists – it was never published.
        It really is illogical that Bethenny or her PR’s would try to plant a negative story about Kelly and her family. I don’t understand the upside.
        Did Kelly mention Richard Johnson at Page Six? She worked there briefly at their magazine. She may have heard a rumor.

        • Free Ginger (formerly known as wolverinedg) says:

          Why would Bethenny pay her PR folks to plant stories about Kelly? How is that going to promote her business? I think B has brought that up, but as always, it’s too logical for Jill or Kelly.

  172. JKW says:

    Hi everyone, I have been reading Lynns blog for a while. I haven’t commented yet but did get something posted on Jill’s FB page. Well, it says it is awaiting moderation…so does that mean it may be deleted ? I don’t how this works. Anyway, this is what I posted in case she deletes it. I am so sick of seeing all the we love Jill shit fest of messages.

    Why would you think you and Bethenny were friends ? You say you and Alex won’t be friends again…then you say Alex and you were never friends…which is it ? You can’t understand why Bethenny won’t forgive you ??? DO you watch this show ? Bethenny asked you 3 times AT LEAST to forgive her…your response was “We are done”. Now, the we are done statement doesn’t actually mean that we are done ? You also said you weren’t ready because you didn’t have your notes. So obviously you do keep track of everything you “think” was done to you. You just can’t shut up and apologize. You continue to give lame excuse after excuse and contradicting yourself. You say you changed as of last night…and here you are blasting everyone in your blog. If you shut up, sincerely apologized and acted like an adult…you may have a chance. However, as B said…you can’t get out of your own way.

    • boston02127 says:

      @JKW~Welcome! Your post probably won’t show on her FB page unless you were kissing her ass.

    • desertgal66 says:

      Well said.

      Yeah, that “we are done doesn’t mean we are actually done” explanation was pretty stupid. I mean, I saw the show where Jill said it, as did all of you, and it was fairly clear that she meant that she was through with Bethenny.

      “Figure of speech”, my ass.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      I never knew that “We’re done,” actually means, “We’re done for right now, but I may talk to you later after you get your own show and I want to be on it.” 😀

      Welcome JKW! I’m fairly new too.

  173. Jennifer says:

    Oh can I also say I can’t get that scene from the cartoon version of reunion that Andy played’ where LuMann puts hands up and in deep voice goes Money Cant buy You Class, out of my head. Lol I find myself hysterically laughing in grocery store. Plp are staring

  174. boston02127 says:

    Jill is back at it. On her website she’s bashing Alex. She wonders why Bravo didn’t show her and Bobby giving Alex $2000. worth of fabric for the fashion show. Bravo probably didn’t show it because it only happened in Jill’s head.
    If it’s not one thing it’s another with her. The only time she’s happy is when there is conflict in her sad little life. I still hate her, as a matter of fact I hate her more.

    • eye2try says:

      Also, if the Zarins did donate fabric, its a complete write off. Meaning they get a tax break for the donation. Further, Jill Zarin didn’t give Alex anything, she (supposedly) donated it to the charity. …and it was good advertisement for Zarin Fabrics if she did, as all sponsors are given credit.

      This is just another example of JZ taking credit where it isnt due. For me, this tops my long list why I hate Jill Zarin and those like her. Disgusting.

    • Alexa Rose says:

      If you rewatch the reunion B actually refers to this but it is drowned out by all the talking at once. B says is when she is laying all the terms of the fight and says something like you want recognition for everything [good] you do (like sending flowers, etc). Jill starts talking over her and Alex also chimes in. If you listen closely you hear B say it though.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      $2000 is probably the amount that they will claim as a business deduction/donation to the IRS.

      $210. – actual value of fabric (when it was purchased by Harry Zarin when he owned the store). Accumulated dust on said bolt was thrown in for free by the ever generous, philanthropic Jill.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      It really does show that Jill DOES keep track of what she does, who owes her, etc. etc. etc. Pathetic really.

    • desertgal66 says:

      I don’t doubt that Zarin Fabrics gave Alex the fabric…my only question is so what? They didn’t give it to Alex personally-they gave it to the fashion show. It was supposed to be one of those, you know, “charitable” acts that Jill and Kelly are so well known for – as in “look what I did! Aren’t I the greatest humanitarian e-ver!? Now pat me on the back!”. Zarin Fabrics received a tax write off for the donation, and they were probably also advertised in the fashion show program, in return for their contribution.

      It’s funny that Jill now wants to try to publicly manipulate this to her advantage and Alex’s disadvantage. I mean, the fashion show, according to Jill, was low rent, low class, shoddy, and makeshift. You’d think, given how Jill is so into appearances, that she wouldn’t want Zarin Fabrics associated with such an event.

      • shantygal says:

        It wasn’t shown because the producers decided not to show it, jut like they did not show Alex’s kids this season, even though they were filmed. Alex had no control what was included in the final cut. It infuriates me how she treats viewers and readers of her blog like total morons.

  175. TLM says:

    I think Jill is completely out of her mind.

    I went to see her blog, and saw the following completely BS paragraph:

    “I have finally received only the nicest emails and facebook comments all night long. ( well not all, but enough to make me feel better!)
    Alex.. what can I say. Again..we were never and are not “friends”. I am very clear in the friendship chapter of my book ( Secrets of a Jewish Mother) what it takes to be a friend etc. We wrote it when all this was going on last fall. It saved my life. My mother was trying to teach me ( again!) the lessons of friendship. Relationships are the hardest thing we ALL have to work through ( spouses, children, co-workers, friends) and it takes work. I think that is what people were so invested in this season. Many of you reading this have told me you had an experience similar to this) .”

    That she was writing her book about relationships WHEN SHE TOLD BETHENNY “WE’RE DONE” makes her behavior even more of a disgrace. If for no other reason than the selfish one that she wanted her book to do well, why wouldn’t Jill have given Bethenny a chance?

    The book “saved her life?” Really? I would like to see how she sees this as a success. Because it seems like she screwed up almost every relationship she has. She herself said relationships are work. Why, then, is her reaction to turn and walk away, to say “we’re done,” to bail at the first opportunity things aren’t going her way?

    There was one thing Jill said that I took at face value. When she told B that she always wished her well and always would, I believed her. And now, even that has been shown to be a lie. What kind of person would say, “Don’t film with Bethenny and help her out on her new show?” A few months ago I read somewhere that Jill wasn’t part of B’s wedding because she did not want to support her new show in any way. I dismissed this as a ridiculous rumor that someone made up simply because they hated Jill. It just sounded so ludicrous. Well, guess what. Jill asked people not to film with Bethenny. Was this part of her charitable talk with Alex and Simon? This is a really sick woman who needs counseling.

    • Noreen says:

      I believe Jillzilla loves (loved) Bethenny but Jill Love is Evil Love. The calculating bitch can’t understand the difference between self love and selfless love.

      • Olivia says:

        Let’s face it: Bethenny is fun to have around. The same cannot be said for Lulu, Kelly, Alex, or Ramona.

        When she lost Bethenny she lost a “fun buddy” and the others do not have the same wit or sense of the absurd that Bethenny has. Lulu is totally devoid of humor. Kelly is a moron. And Ramona is without a sense of irony.

        Jill lost a great deal when she dissed Bethenny and I am sure this is what she misses most. Her ability to make her laugh.

  176. boston02127 says:

    @TLM~~Her book saved her life? Ha~ If that crap ass book is any indication of how to act/be a friend I’d say the book ruined her life.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill wrote the book – “to pass down things we learned to our children”.
      In my world – “I talk to my kids everyday and made an picture album too”.

      Jill wrote the book TO MAKE MONEY!
      In my world – I WANT MY KIDS TO KNOW I LOVE THEM!

  177. Olivia says:

    It is the definition of “friends” that gets muddled up here.

    Apparently Jill and Bethenny knew one another before the series started. That is if you listen to Jill. Another article has Bethenny saying they” became friends” when the show went into production.

    Then it seems that Lu Ann, Ramona, and Jill all knew each other from the Hamptons but would never be characterized as “friends”, just casual acquaintances who ran into one another at events.

    Alex was never a “friend” to any of them before the series kicked off. There are scenes from past episodes of Jill introducing Lu Ann to both Bethenny and Alex. Sonja had to be introduced to Jill and Kelly by Lu Ann. Jill admits that she had never heard of Sonja before the introduction. Ramona and Sonja also admitted that they had fallen out of touch over a period of many years. Jennifer Gilbert is shown meeting Jill for the very first time when they met to discuss her skating party.

    The idea that any of these women were actual “friends” from the outset is specious. They were thrown together for the sake of the series. There is little actual “friendship” involved.

    Jill may have had some cursory relationship with Bethenny prior to the series start as she was urging her to sign on in the beginning. But it also appears that Bravo was having difficulty filling the slots. So if we are to believe Jill, then she and Bethenny had a relationship of sorts before filming but according to another article Bethenny is downplaying that in saying their friendship was a result of the series.

    Take your pick. But it is obvious that the “friendship” angle is merely being played up for the show. It is also obvious that as a group, most of them are unable to stand one another which puts paid to the friendship angle that Bravo is attempting to push.

    • error 404 says:

      I think that Jill and B’s stories do match up. They’d met before the show, but barely knew each other. They became friends on the show, and it was a genuine friendship, or at least as genuine as two fame-hungry exhibitionists can have. Then jealousy played a part when B seemed to be getting more famous than Jill. A few petty things passed, but since they are both more concerned with being liked by viewers than each other, it blew up into a public feud that became unfixable.

      It’s no secret that each has a trail of ruined relations behind them, but I think the real lesson is that you can’t control reality tv, it controls you. Lulu thinks she’s got it made because we’ve never seen her toilet, but the jokes on her. Standing up on stage with a microphone in hand, we all saw Lulu peeing on a stick, and we all laughed at her.

      • Olivia says:

        Agreed. Fame seeking brings out the worst in people, no matter who they are.

        Like someone wanting to run for president, you have to question the motives and emotional makeup that would drive people to expose themselves so readily for public consumption.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The two closest to a friendship in our world – Ramona and Sonja, as they were friends that lost touch and then reconnected via the show. The others were acquaintances or knew who so and so was. Today, I think Alex and Bethenny have developed a friendship like normal people have. BRAS got to know each other better and have a positive relationship built on trust, sharing, caring and supporting each other. Kelly and LuAnn are wannabes but not really friends with anyone and Jill grabbed them up (Kelly is clueless and LuAnn may be seeing what others are seeing and reevaluating her image now being defined by Jill association). They were hired for a reality television show – some will develop friendships, some will not and some will let fame fan the flame of their own self importance.

    • lillybee says:

      In season 1, Jill describes her friendship with Ramona as tennis friends and then goes on to say that her good friends are in the front row and Ramona is up in the balcony. I thought it was a strange way to describe friendship, especially when Ramona didn’t invite jill to her cooking party. At the next party, as soon as Ramona comes in, Jill runs off to the other side of the room. A pattern that exists to this day.

      • error 404 says:

        and on the reunion, Jill said she’s the biggest cheerleader for her friends…EVEN RAMONA! lol classic backhanded compliment!

        yes, wasn’t it the very first episode where Jill raised the roof because Ramona didn’t invite her to her small party. Yeah Jill, we really believe you don’t get jealous when someone gets something you didn’t. Seriously, does Jill think we don’t watch the show?

  178. error 404 says:

    I know this will shock you all, but Kiki got on my last nerve last night!

    Every single time they adults would finally get to something good, little Kiki would get jealous and insert herself into the conversation, even though what she said had nothing to do with what was going on.

    Anyone who’s ever tried to tell their bff about their latest fight with their spouse, only to have bff’s 5 year old interrupt with “Mommy, Mommy, look at the picture I just drew!” knows what I’m talking about.

    So, we’ll skip over her thinking that Ramona calling her stupid was a worse offense that the bklyn bridge massacre aside.

    Why did she have to interrupt the Jill vs Bethenny talk to start up her season 2 Kiki vs Bethenny fight. Again. We’re over it Kiki. B hated you until she realized you’re crazier than a room full of cats, and now just ignores your existence. Move on. 2 million viewers have.

    But of course Jill and Lulu clutch to the ramblings like a life raft, so… explain please:

    how is someone telling the others not to film with the dangerous crazy woman who hits people, on the same level as someone hatching a revenge plan for the entire cast to sabatage one’s new show? How? I’m lost.

    it’s not just apples and oranges, it’s apples and sparkplugs.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly should know that it is best to keep your mouth shut until it is your turn to be grilled. She learned nothing last year! And she may be stuck there – she did bring up all last year stuff with Bethenny………quick someone ask her what year this is!

  179. Bravo fan says:

    Lynn, thanks for the Birthday shout out. Love your blog. Jill is telling people that part 2 of the reunion will be aired on Tuesday, when in reality it will be aired on Monday. I think she is trying to get people not to watch it, it must be really show her in a bad light. I wrote to her on facebook, her blog and bravo blog that she needs to correct it. I also wrote Andy, I think he should know that someone is giving wrong show info. and maybe even doing so maliciously.

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      i just wrote Andy too.

    • jb8 says:

      Maybe we shouldn’t sweat her attempt to misdirect. Bravo continues to rebroadcast the episodes and for those with cable/On Demand, you can watch to your heart’s content. And some episodes are available in full over at hulu.com.

  180. JKW says:

    Hi Boston, thanks for the welcome. I have been enjoying Lynn’s blog for quite a while. I am sure Zarin Fabric wrote off that $2000 of fabric they donated to the fashion show. Again she is counting her coup on good deeds done. I guess she has to, there aren’t that many !

  181. Ava says:

    Lynn-Love the blog. I don’t know if this has been mentioned but your question to B made it on WWHL (the aftershow).

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      I’m watching the after show right now and Bethenny is answering Lynn’s question. Rock On Lynn.

  182. Scorpiosue says:

    From Twitter:


    Bethenny Getting Married? Scores Highest Series Premiere In Bravo History With Over 2 Million Viewers

    Good for Bethenny, Jason and Cookie!

  183. boston02127 says:

    One bright day in the middle of the night
    Two dead men began to fight
    Back to back they faced each other
    Drew their swords and shot each other

    Headaching huh? Just how Jill talks.

    Jill : Alex and I were never friends and we’ll never be friends again.

    Not one bit of sense.

  184. kmuellfa says:

    I was watching the WWH after show w/ B, and she said that she would not do the show again if Kelly was part of the cast.

    If the head honchos at Bravo have any brains at all, they would dump Krazy.

    • error 404 says:

      She did? I saw WWHL and she said her doing it depended on the cast.

      Kiki is a prime target, but then again, Jill’s right there in 2nd place. When did she mention KElly by name?

      • Scorpiosue says:

        I think that was on the after show that is only on the Bravo website.

      • kmuellfa says:

        Yeah, you have to watch the 10 min or so video of the WWH after show (I think it’s called Jason’s awesome or something). It was said in response to a callers question.

  185. guest says:

    does anyone know the website that does the funny recaps with stills from the episodes?

  186. boston02127 says:

    Brittney Gastineau is really reaching for straws. She’s been on all the D-list shows and never made a name for herself and now she’s affiliating herself with Jill.

    • The Digger says:

      Jill is good friends with Lisa Gastineau. Lisa is part of Jill’s fabulous circle of friends. I am sure Jill got the idea to become famous on reality tv from watching Lisa pimp out herself and Brittny on their show. Jill probably has some invisible competition she has fabricated in her head to be better than Lisa. All 3 are are z list and totally forgettable. Who’s Lisa you ask? See, that is what I am talking about.

  187. Adgirl says:

    Jill does not LOVE Bethenny. She thought she OWNED her. Jill is determined to get the runaway slave back into the fold.

    • Fabulous Earth says:


    • DarkSonnet says:

      And that would be like putting toothpaste back into the tube. Actually, putting the toothpaste back would be easier to accomplish.

      I agree about the “love”. Does Jill really have the ability to truly love someone? I’m talking about selfless love, the “I would die for you” type of love, not JillSpeak.

  188. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Did anyone else catch the part when they were talking about “not filming with certain housewives” and the Countless was saying how every one of them (meaning BRA) had done that and staring at B while she said it? B immediately shot at her with “:Yeah, you’re right, you said you were not comfortable around Kelly and I said if tht is true then don’t shoot with her” Very telling—Countless did not even want to shoot with Kelly and now they are buds. Also loved how Countless trying to defend Jill with that statement, playing like B had tried to do it too, gets shot out of the water with what really happened. B shoots straight and takes no liars trying to call her out. Loved that moment.

  189. Bravo fan says:

    To Fabulous Earth, I am glad u wrote to Andy also about Jill giving the wrong date of the airing of reunion part 2. (Wow talk about a run on sentence.) Jill still has not corrected the date in her blog. It has been this way all day. Now tell me that this was not on purpose. I think Bravo would like to know about this.

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      I think it was on purpose too…

      • Ellabean says:

        I saw her mistakenly write Tuesday on her site too.

        Now that you mention it – it had to be on purpose.

        Jill never does anything without an ulterior motive – nothing is an accident. Nothing.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Perhaps she didn’t or her PR peoples didn’t proof it before it went out?

  190. TLM says:

    WHERE is the WWHL aftershow??? I went there several times, and all I see is the link to the one with Jerry Seinfeld. How do I find the one with Bethenny???

  191. TLM says:

    Ok, I finally found it. It wasn’t listed as “aftershow”, but instead said something like Jason is awesome. Why does Bravo make it so hard to find the videos???

  192. Scorpiosue says:

    Hey Lynn,

    Was that your question that Andy asked Bethenny on WWHL after show (Lynn in Chicago)? If it is, that would be hilarious considering your blog site and I’m sure Andy is completely aware of your site.

  193. Billie says:

    Jill stated on the Lisa Wexler show that Jason liked her enough to take her money to be her personal trainer.
    She also said that Andy told Bethenny to take up for her at the reunion when she said that Jill had been picked on enough.
    Jill also claims that they edited out alot of what she says at the reunion that would have shown her in a more positive light.
    It is the last 20 minutes of the show if you want to listen to the rerun.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      I’ve been rather reluctant to verbalize this in the past, but Jill Zarin is a pathological liar.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Billie~I’m so sick of Jill complainiing about editing. She needs to edit her own life.

    • Squirrels says:

      Ohhhhh, so Jason (whichever one she’s talking about) should have volunteered to be her personal trainer? Don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve handled allot of clients I didn’t particularly like.

  194. Alexa Rose says:

    When Jill said Ally did not go to weight loss camp in season one, I was confused because I thought she did. I went to her old blogs and found this from the March 27, 2008 blog titled “Watch Out for Fireworks:”

    “Many viewers have had questions regarding Allyson’s health. Ally does not have JRA or RA. Ally has spondyloarthropathy arthritis. Regarding her trip to Martha’s Vineyard — she was in a controlled environment where she did other things besides the shakes. Understand it was NOT for weight loss. She was taking so many different medications because of her arthritis (one which caused an ulcer) and this was her way of getting them “out.” The weight loss was just a result of the detox and was definitely not a diet. If you want to do it you can, but make sure you do not work out or do any intense mental or physical activity. You can do it for a week in the summer or on a long vacation but the first few days will be hard. It wasn’t just the drinks but also lots of treatments so the results may be different.”

    I have to give this one to Jill, but overall I think B’s was correct in saying that Jill made everything public (REAL things) so why wouldn’t they have their real make up on cameras, as well.

    • Adgirl says:

      I thought that before the seaon aired media outlets were all over Jill for sending Ally to camp on the PP for weight loss (in oart to relieve arthritic issues due to weight).
      Maybe not -It’s been a long time since I’ve seen S1.

    • The Digger says:

      The story line is that she went to detox… But in a scene where Ally was being filmed she said she wanted to lose weight. I remember this clear as day. Ally’s intention was to lose weight and when she returned Bethenny was working with Ally to teach her to eat healthy to keep off the weight. Either way, the whole thing was public enough to put on tv and part of the huge Jill bragging rights was how generous Bobby was to hire a private plane to take Ally to the island. It was means for Jill to boast of her amazing wealth. Everything always has a self serving aspect for Jill.

  195. Adgirl says:

    OK, maybe I am the last person in the room to realize this –

    Left side reunion: Totally get the joke!
    They (and all of h/w) ARE the joke.
    They have a sense of humor & fun about themselves.

    Right side reunion: Really believe that they are “special & elite”!
    They truly buy the poop that we aspire to be them.
    Their shit don’t stink.
    And don’t speak to them in that tone because you live in Brooklyn or are Down There.

  196. Shadowsnomore says:

    This was discussed up-thread and Lynn has discussed it in her blog. And I just wanted to share in my disgust. I find it morally reprehensible that Jill is using charity work as a tool to attack Alex and to try to rebuild her reputation.

    There are millions of people everyday who are preforming acts of charity. They work in the trenches, donate products and money, and actively raise awareness for their cause. They do so with little or NO recognition at all. They do so because they believe it is not only the right thing to do but the moral thing to do. IMO they, like those who serve in the armed forces, are true heroes.

    Now many public figures also donate their time and monetary gifts to many worthwhile charities. They do so because they have the means, believe in the cause, and/or have the desire to make a difference. Many charities appreciate the attention and gifts these celebrities bring to their organization. The monetary contributions are a benefit that goes without saying. The name recognition that celebrities have can bring attention to the charity that is priceless.

    Now most charitable organizations will give thanks to the public figure verbally. They acknowledge large monetary donors in various forms and almost always have signage or fact sheets that recognize those who have donated products. It benefits the charities and it benefits the public figures to share in the mutual attachment.

    Working with a charity has benefits for the public figure as well. It gives good press and it shows their altruistic nature. Most (not all), celebrities truly have pure motivations when they lend their name to these organizations and raise money and awareness for them. They don’t make it ALL about them. It truly is All about the charity for them.

    I find Jill so vile with this latest ploy. Like Lynn said, Jill is using “Charity” as a buzz word. We would all be disgusted if any of these ladies used a charity to attack another or to plant false and damaging stories in the press. Well, Jill did just this with her accusation of Alex. It is backfiring and we are only left with disgust for Jill. Jill is the user. She mentions charity as a “Pr” tool to rebuild her pathetic reputation. She figures if she talks about all the charity work she does then… we will all realize what a wonderful giving person she is. She was upset that Bravo didn’t make mention of the fabric she donated to Alex for fashion week. She makes up accusations that Alex is hurting a charity. She is using her new Buzz word in overdrive! Like “B” said “Jill counts everything”. She wants praise and recognition for EVERYTHING!

    To Jill, charity work is nothing more than a tax write off and ADVERTISING! I hate this woman.

    • The Digger says:

      Jill is a giant walking spreadsheet. Everything she does has a debt attached. I do this for you and you OWE me that. If you do not pay me back what you OWE me it remains on my spreadsheet until the debt is paid up. There always has to be a payback or a payoff or a direct benefit to Jill. She does not understand the concept of the word selfless.

      I knew someone like this. She was always keeping score. She was thee most annoying fucking person in the world. She always had a mental list of what she had done for you. One day I got tired of listening to her and I made a list. She started down Debt Lane with me and I actually took out a paper list and said, well, I did this for you so now you can cross that one thing you did for me off your list. She almost exploded. It was fun. She is gone now. No more debt, no more list.

    • RileyKitty says:

      Amen, I completely agree.

      I also find it bizarre that FIVE publications came to Jill & basically said We want you to know that Alex gave us this story but we just don’t believe it & therefore will not publish her lies attacking you & your fine charitable work. Ok, ok it may not have happened exactly that way but still.

      • The Digger says:

        Let’s see proof of these 5 publications. That was her impulse lie of the moment. Defense mode is not pretty on Jill but it does make her run her mouth and that is fun to watch as she digs these lie holes. Her mouth is one big lie hole.

  197. Teresa says:

    “Sherri Shepard’s comment comparing Bethenny to Omarosa didn’t make much sense because Bethenny is very popular and O was the “villain” everyone loved to hate. If Sherri seemed hostile to B, I wonder why. Comparing B to Elizabeth was a more apt comparison, but that didn’t seem to go over too well with the ladies of the View. When B said that, they acted as if she had left a stink bomb.”

    Sheri Shepard from the View is a moron. To compare Bethenny to Omarosa is ridiculas. Has she even watched the show???

    Joy Behar is a friend of Jill Zarin’s, so you know whose crubby little paws are all over this one.

    • MorgaineSwann says:

      It figures Behar would side with Zarin. They’re cut from the same obnoxious cloth. And Shepard is a moron, as is Hasslebeck or whatever her name is. Whoopie didn’t seem to know who Bethenny was and I don’t even remember if Barbara was there. B. did fine, though, it’s just that everyone is jealous of her right now. She’s Cinderella and they’re the ugly step sisters.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Teresa~~I’ve noticed on Twitter that Jill and Sonja are getting pretty chummy too.

  198. Need a Hobby says:

    Jill wants to take all the credit for Bethenny being on RHNY, but I read an old interview with JZ where she said it was Bobby’s idea to suggest B to the show’s producers, since they were having problems getting the show cast. My recollection is that I read that it was even Bobby who introduced B to the producers at some Hamptons event. (Jill’s stories change over time so more recently, according to her, she’s responsible for casting RHONY.) Anyway, B met with producers and when they later asked her to join up she said no. Eventually B agreed to do the show.

    It wasn’t as if JZ lobbied and persuaded the producers to cast Bethenny. The producers met and talked to Bethenny, liked her and eventually signed her to do the show. From those circumstances Jill wants to take credit for Bethenny’s entire career and business activities. Although B has worked hard to establish and maintain her businesses, to Jill everything B has is due solely to Jill.

    I think Bethenny’s right: Jill had a nervous breakdown of sorts after she learned (around May/June of last year) that Bethenny got her own show. And Jill set about to “punish” Bethenny and destroy her reputation, credibility and popularity. Bethenny has said that JZ went so far as to call the Today show asking why they have Bethenny on and not her. This year, according to Wendy Williams, Jill was pissed and complained because she had Bethenny on her show and “took Bethenny’s side” by simply interviewing her. (The videos of B’s February appearance on Wendy Williams’ show and Wendy’s later on air response to Jill’s complaint are on youtube.)

    Jill’s behavior toward Bethenny, on air and off, has been that of an abuser. (Jill was afraid of “losing” Bethenny so she went off on a jihad against her? Now that’s “creepy.”) Jill has attacked B repeatedly to others and to the press, tried to interfere with her livelihood, played mind effing games on B (remember Jill’s glee and satisfaction during and after the phone call scene in Jill’s apt?) then later when the blowback hit, asked for forgiveness and made excuses for her behavior. She wasn’t fully responsible, she was having a bad day, had a bad summer, fall, winter, and spring. But now she’s changed.

    Sound familiar? Jill’s an abuser who has to punish people who displease her and it’s everyone’s fault but her own. Just within days of filming the reunion where Jill claimed she’s “changed,” she has continued to publicly bash Bethenny. No matter how many PR people Jill hires, they can’t save her from herself.

  199. iceNfire says:

    Bethenny did say that she will not return to RHONY if Kelly is among the cast. In my mind that means Kelly’s out. Now if she had just mentioned Jill’s name I’d relax, but Jill is still iffy.
    Jill do you really want to continue to live in this nightmare you created? This blog isn’t going anywhere and I for one do not believe anything you say. The thought of you being on season 4 me sick but if you are, I’ll just keep on sending my disgust to Bravo and the sponsors of RHONY. I can live without Hersheys, Crocs, Toyota, Lysol, Kodak and I’ll fill in my list and begin posting it here every morning and every site that enters my inbox via Jill Zarin google alerts.

  200. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s choices:
    1. Enjoy the summer in the Hamptons. Enjoy the sun, the fresh air and the beautiful ocean. Enjoy family, cookouts, warm nights. Reflect on life, strive to make it better.
    2. Win win win. Think think think. Me me me. How can I win. Gossip gossip gossip.
    How can I come out on top. Complain complain complain. Connive, connive, connive.

    • The Digger says:

      She is in constant warfare. Must be tiring…. most especially since she seems to have such a bad memory and cannot keep track of her lies. She needs to start a spreadsheet just to keep track of her lies. Lately it has been tripping her up. Poor thing.

    • moriasheehan says:

      one more.excuses excuses excuses

  201. degroohj says:

    Not to bring up sex tapes again…but…

    Jill so constantly needs the attention on her AT ALL TIMES, she actually gave this quote to eonline regarding her and Bobby’s “personal life” when asked:

    “And of course, as with all reality television stars these days, I had to ask Zarin if she has a secret sex tape.

    ‘Do I have my own personal library? No,’ she answered with a laugh, ‘but are there things possible in a vault that we own that are personal? Maybe.’

    She added, ‘A lot of people have hot videos of themselves that they don’t want published. People who say they don’t or wouldn’t, I don’t know if I believe them.”‘

    Who’s ready for One Night With Jill & Bobby?”


    Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b185384_jill_zarin_talks_housewives.html#ixzz0qad9cxHw


  202. Has this been posted yet?


    RT @BethennyRT Holy bravo balls@BravoPR Bethenny Getting Married? Scores Highest Series Premiere In Bravo History W/ Over 2 Million Viewers about 1 hour ago via UberTwitter

  203. desertgal66 says:

    Jill stated on the Lisa Wexler show that Jason liked her enough to take her money to be her personal trainer.

    Uh, JILL? That doesn’t mean he liked you. It means that you paid him to be your personal trainer. It’s called, you know, a job. It’s also called doing Bethenny a favor.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Always about the money our Jill is, always keeping count. Jill can probably tell you the monetary value of all her relationships, how much everyone “owes” her. How can anyone accept a dinner invitation with her now, knowing that later if she’s pissed she will tell everyone how Bawby “paid for the food” you put in your mouth, as if you were a homeless waif they took off the street?

      Presumably, if there’s truth to Jason having signed on for a time as Jill’s “personal trainer” (and with Jill who knows), that was back when Jill and Bethenny were still friends. Think Jason was going to like Jill after she went, according to her own public words, “insane” and turned on Bethenny like a rabid attack dog?

      Good job, though Jill: now we know the “anonymous” source of that Fox website story about Jason being a “personal trainer.” Jill still doesn’t get that when she tries to throw shit at others it just winds up splattering her.

  204. CdnFillie says:

    something I noticed…the last episode when Jill “surprises” Ramona in her suite before the renewal ceremony…after they hug, the next scene shows Jill without a coat on saying “wowwww , nice suite” next scene is her actually walking in the room snooping at everything with said coat on… wonder why they “staged” that scene

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ramona didn’t want her to stay? But Jill had to have some face time….so Ramona went along with it but she wasn’t really into that SUPRISE scene.

  205. boston02127 says:

    Loved when B said to Jill: your plan didn’t work.

  206. boston02127 says:

    Ally’s “glorified diet”

    NY mom offers daughter an unusual approach to dieting:

    I’m not posting this to hurt Ally. She was only 14 at the time and I think she was and still is very pretty. Note in the artical she didn’t go by the name Zarin.

    • Alexa Rose says:

      I don’t want to sound like I’m defending Jill. But I think her motives as a mother (I hope) were more to detox her from bad food and years of medication. She probably also felt that slimming down would help her daughter’s self confidence. Ally, as a teenager, was probably more concerned with weight than anything else.

  207. The Digger says:

    Do you think the Swamp Loggers stand out in the woods bickering like this or just the Howives show? I was looking for something sedate to watch on tv tonite.

  208. boston02127 says:

    I just looked in the tv guide to see what’s on at 8. *est
    The reunion show is on again. I think I’m pretty Jill’ed out thou.
    Time for a walk & fresh air.

  209. little rock says:

    @ bravofan, I can just hear a conversation between andy and jill about her posting the wrong day for the next installment of the reunion.
    Andy: Bitch, i mean, jill, you know damn well the second half of the reunion
    is going to be on MONDAY night. What the hell are you doing posting
    Tuesday on your f#*&ing facebook?
    Jill: Andy, it’s not my fault! I read on Ally’s twitter that it’s tuesday night.
    I’m not perfect, i’m just a new york bitch.
    Andy: Jill, you’re a bitch no matter where you are, in all time zones, at the
    SAME TIME, so don’t give me that shit! we’re done filming, so you have
    one job, ONE, promote the damn show.
    Jill: I know i said it’s on tuesday night but it didn’t come out right, i mean ,
    yeah, i said that,but what i really meant was, that, well, ok, that ….
    see, it was ally’s last, i mean first, i mean bobby had his throat cut and
    ramona INVITED me, and i had to peeeeeeeee! It’s all that bitch alex’s
    fault. she hacked into my computer.
    Andy: Bitch, you are so fired!

  210. Bravo fan says:

    Well, Jill has responded to some commentors on her blog, but not mine – I told her that she wrote the wrong date of the airing of part 2 of the reunion. She still has Tuesday as the date of the second part of the reunion. Something smells rotten in the big apple.

  211. Kabuki says:

    Jill Zarin is a vile, vicious bitch who has no redeeming qualities.

    She can’t simply accept that Bethenny is done with her. Since Bethenny hasn’t taken her back as a BFF then the war is back on. Jill is doing everything she can to keep up this pretense that Bethenny wronged her. I am kind of torn on what Bethenny said about Jason not liking Jill & so she didn’t know how that would work. I loved the reaction on Jill’s face but I also kind of wished B had just owned it 100% on her own.

    Just because Jill claims her & Alex aren’t friends & were never friends doesn’t give her the license to treat Alex like crap. The way she said it came out like Alex, you were never good enough to be my friend. You are lucky to be in the same room as I am.

    I believe Jill & Ramona will be friends again next season if Jill is asked back. It seems to be part of their relationship. To me it is the definition of that idiotic FRENEMIES word.

    BTW it is me RileyKitty, I wanted to channel Kabuki for this one post 🙂

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Or as Alex said, there is no excuse for not having basic civility.

      “channel Kabuki” – LOL!

      I’m not sure about the Ramona/Jill friendship in the future. I do think that Ramona has somewhat turned a corner this season and while not perfect by any means, I’m not sure that she would have the same tolerance level for the crapola that is so much a part of Jill’s M.O.

      • Adgirl says:

        That reminds me of a text convo I was having with my daughter yesterday. I asked her in a funny way why she hadn’t done something and she said “because you look like a Kabuki vampire”.
        I laughed all day. Then I threatened to give her a gift bag.

    • RileyKitty says:

      DarkSonnet, I truly hope Ramona doesn’t go back to the back & forth with Jill. I am hoping Jill won’t be back next year. I will bet money that if it is Bravo’s choice to not have Jill back (she doesn’t leave on her accord) then Jill will be right up Ramona’s ass so she can still get her face on camera.

      • Adgirl says:

        Can they get rid of Jill & Kelly when Bethenny may be gone too? I think Kelly is the most expendable of the group. Jill brought the ratings with Get A Hobby. Feuding = ratings. Jill will find someone else to lord over next season.

  212. Ladylucilu says:

    Your rock! I just love how you put out. Totally enjoy your sight! love it! I love coming in and reading everyone points of views. I have so many laughs with everyone. We viewers are allowed to say what we really think. I mean really we are not blind?
    Thank you everyone on this blog 🙂

  213. DarkSonnet says:

    Well, this is rather interesting, albeit practically “War and Peace”.

    Jill posted this on her Facebook as a person “who changed their mind last night”.

    Jill’s grubby fingerprints on this? Or not?


    • Eve says:

      I tried to respond to this article and couldn’t for some reason. My question to Jill and the Jill lovers/Bethenny haters related to this article: If Bethenny is such a monster then why is Jill begging to be friends with her again?
      Same thing…different day. If you won’t be my friend I’ll do everything I can to bash you in the press. Its really that simple immature mean girl mentality. Alex is right.

  214. Chickentales says:


    Interesting article but someone who changed her mind about me last night. http://bit.ly/bNJbOQ 20 minutes ago via Facebook

  215. RileyKitty says:

    One of the most ridiculous things on the reunions how was all the talk about Ramona’s “indiscretion”. Personally I don’t think a small peck of a kiss is anything to be concerned with, just for the record 🙂 Kelly’s reaction was just so over the top strange. Seriously, you don’t make it through 17 years of marriage going nuts over a small kiss

    • Scorpiosue says:

      I agree. She told Mario and Alex was right there. Kelly is freakishly puritanical at times.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      An “indiscretion” to me is more along the lines of a reportedly drunken Lulu grabbing the balls of one of the housewives’s date/partner at some event in the Hamptons. (Lulu may have been married at the time since IIRC this was maybe a couple years ago or so.)

  216. Jennifer says:

    Sidenote on Teresa: She shopping her story to mags for $10,000 but they can’t ask about her finances- it’s on Perez. Thats conceited of her

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      what story? we all saw her story! she wants to sell it?! Teresa…………
      prostitution whore much?

  217. lillybee says:

    Jason may have changed his mind about Jill when he saw how upset Jill got Bethenny the night that they announced their engagement. And then to top it off, Jill has to ask him who much he paid for the ring.

    • moriasheehan says:

      as lulu would say, money can’t buy you class. asking the price of an engagement ring, how classless. lulu needs call her out on this or she is a certified hypocrite

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Jason wasn’t happy with Jill long before the season started filming. If I recall correctly, at the beginning of the season, in the scene with her assistant Bethenny was recounting events of late spring/early summer (how Jill called the today show etc.) , she said Jill was being “grabby” and “Jason doesn’t like grabby, I don’t like grabby.”

  218. Queen Butter Bean says:

    In her blog, Jill said, “Bethenny is an open book…when she wants. If I play HER message on camera…I am a bad person? But she will show everything. WHich is it?”

    That was a direct copy and paste, so there’s no “misquoting”.

    Which is it?? Well Jill, the difference is that it was Bethenny’s message that you saved and only partially played on the air. She didn’t have a choice as to whether HER message was played or not. If she chooses to hang her ass out of her apartment window for filming, it is HER CHOICE – not yours.

    It’s similar to when you put on your facebook that Bethenny had given birth to a boy. Forget for a moment that you got the sex of the baby wrong, but yet again you took away HER CHOICE, HER NEWS, HER JOY.

    Really – that’s not the way to behave. I think I learned that in kindergarten. My kindergarten teacher is probably in her 90’s by now – perhaps even deceased – but I can try to get her number for you so she can teach you a few lesson. Or, perhaps your psychic can find her.

    You’re an idiot.

    • desertgal66 says:

      Jill just doesn’t get it. She never will. It’s not just that she didn’t give Bethenny the choice of playing that part of her message on the air-it’s that she didn’t give Bethenny a choice in any of it.

      I said it before – JILL chose to engineer and manipulate the breakup of their friendship in a very public, very one sided fashion. If you look back, Bethenny found out she was getting her own show at the beginning of the summer, before they started filming for S3. And Jill got pissed about that. I believe she set out deliberately to break up their friendship. She downplayed Bawby’s illness to Bethenny so she could turn around and use Bethenny’s “insensitivity” against her. If you noticed last night, when Jill said she didn’t remember downplaying Bawby’s surgery to Bethenny, Beth gave her a fairly sharp look that pretty much said “You DO remember that, and it’s pretty chickenshit that you are pretending you don’t.”

      Jill also tried to convince the other HW’s to not film with Bethenny-another attempt to manipulate viewers against Bethenny and sabotage her show.

      I also think that one of the main reasons Jill wanted to make up “in private” was so that she could twist Bethenny’s words and use them against her. She never had any intention of making up. She didn’t want it on camera because she knew she’d lose the edge for manipulating what Bethenny said. If Jill had really wanted to make up in private, she could have called Bethenny and asked B. to meet her privately at any point. She didn’t.

      Another example of Jill’s manipulation is the night that Bethenny told everyone that she and Jason were engaged. Jill made a big deal about how she went to find Bawby so they could congratulate Bethenny together. That was an outright lie. She and LuAnn walked away from Beth BEFORE Beth announced the engagement. As soon as Jill heard the news, she had to do some fast maneuvering to redeem herself. She even said it to Bawby: “If I walk out now [without congratulating B&J], I’ll look like a pile of shit.” She was perfectly happy to treat Beth like shit and keep going with this public estrangement until she realized, with Bethenny’s engagement and pregnancy, that it was going to backfire on her. Only THEN did Jill attempt any kind of reconciliation-and it pissed her off even more that B. had reached her breaking point and wasn’t going to play Jill’s little game anymore.

      And she continually says things that contradict her actions. Last night, she told Bethenny that she “didn’t want to intrude” on B’s life because she didn’t want to upset B’s in the early stage of B’s pregnancy. Well, that’s pretty noble of you, JILL…except that you didn’t seem to concerned with B’s early pregnancy when you traveled all the way to St. John.

      Jill set Bethenny up. All the way down the line. Beth was right. When the cameras went up, Jill set out to slay Bethenny publicly. And she’s still doing it, to Bethenny and to Alex.

      I also find it interesting that Jill can’t remember anything that reflects poorly on her-but she can remember, in detail, what she said to LuAnn on the day of the Fashion Week showdown?

      • Squirrels says:

        “I also think that one of the main reasons Jill wanted to make up “in private” was so that she could twist Bethenny’s words and use them against her. ”

        I believe that is the precise reason B would insist the discussion be on tape. As B says, “It’s never about what it’s about”.

        • Kat says:

          I think Jill was afraid to make up on camera because she knew there was a good possibility that her deceit would become transparent to the audience.
          Bethenney knew what their fall out was about and if they had started to discuss it Jill would have been caught lying.

  219. Loveit says:

    Did anyone see this commentary in a recent review of the reunion?
    “is it just me or does it look as if another Kelly personality is about to come out ?” LMAO, best one liner ever. Even better is that it’s KellyDarling’s friend Luann, with her condesending remarks, that has Kelly white-knockling it on the couch. Deep yoga breath Kelly, deep yoga breath. Fame is alllll worth it.

  220. cimibu says:

    Just a thought here, but has anyone ever considered that Jill may be displaying early signs of Alzheimers. Besides the memory issues, she does seem to lack a social filter and is paranoid. I remember when my Mom was first diagnosed. I was able to look back at a lot of her behavior, and it finally made sense.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      I’m leaning more toward later signs of Classic Bitch.

      Please understand that I am not demeaning Alzheimer’s issues in any way, shape or form. My mother suffered with this horrendous disease for 7 long years and I personally cared for her.

      JMHO – Jill is a pathological liar and her memory or lack thereof, is one of pure convenience.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She can’t remember her bad behavior but she can remember every last penny, nickle and dime………..it’s a disease but I don’t know the name of it!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Didn’t Ramona say something about Sak being pissed about the returns by Jill, which is why she did the luncheon (in her space alien metallic disco dress)?

    • Jables says:

      Delurking to comment on the hideous green shoes. Several posters upthread were speculating about the ?sticker? on the bottom.

      The soles are hand painted – not dyed (Sorry beth darling…they most certainly do NOT stain wood floors). The paint does chip off pretty quickly, so the only part of the sole that stays red for any length of time is the underside of the arch since it doesn’t rub against the ground. But in my experience the paint “flakes” or “fades”, it doesn’t peel off in patches like that! Actually the fade is kind of desirable because it gives them that “la di da” well worn look instead of screaming “look at my super expensive I never wear them cause these are my special occasion!” shoes.

      But…the paint is high gloss and slick as shit. Personally I spray the underside of mine with a little hairspray to give it some tack, so I don’t bust my ass until the gloss wears off. I do know some people who put tape or whatever on the bottom. Jill looks pretty unsteady in her big girl shoes so I can see her doing something like that. It kinda screws up the wear pattern but whatever.

      I am just a shoe-whore…not a bitch I promise! ; )

      • MorgaineSwann says:

        I always used first aid tape to keep from falling in new heels. It might be something like that. Or she might be like one customer we used to have when I worked in a dept. store. That lady would tape up the bottom of her shoes, wear them to an event, then return them.

        • Jables says:

          Sometimes I use a scalpel blade to score the bottom in a cross hatch pattern…that works great too! Of course never on the Loubous! That would be sacrilege!

      • wvurn says:

        I wish I had heard of this tip sooner. Took a slide last night in my new CLs. It wasn’t pretty!

  221. kats2 says:

    TWOP site just sucks and like you all called it there is a small group of Bethenny haters there who make it miserable to post. It’s personal for them, perhaps Bethenny didn’t hire them or something.. . . . the extent they take it to is not normal and really nothing to back it up. Bethenny could cure cancer and they would find something wrong about it. I stopped playing in that sand box awhile ago, I did however kick sand in their face before I left. It felt good and I’m much happier here.

    So in summary fuck TWOP and thank you Lynn your site/blog is amazing!!!!

  222. Char212 says:

    I’ve been away and haven’t caught up yet. (you guys have been busy lol) so I don’t know if this has been brought up yet. I read on her blog that Alex wanted Jill and Bobby to give her $2000.00 worth of fabric for free for her fashion show in Brooklyn which of course they said no. This coming from a women who tries to get everything she can for free. I guess that’s different huh.

  223. katiecoo says:

    Couple of thoughts about last night:

    1. I had it stuck in my craw about how Jill says to B after “the lunch”, “Let me know how you like the potato pancakes”. She HAS to leave it on a note reminding Bethenny of her (shitty) gift. It might be something if they had a history of making potato pancakes together, it was B’s favorite food, she knew B was going RIGHT HOME to put them in the frig. But it was, as usual, all about JZ and of course she, just as B described last night, has to highlight her “generosity”. Always highlighting herself, keeping score, etc.

    2. Did you catch how Kelly said that Bethenny should have *actually* peed on a stick with the door open? Like that was somehow being “authentic”? And her peeing behind the door was somehow “not real”. “If you’re gonna do it real, then be real”. Right Kelly! She should have opened her legs in to a full blown beaver shot and shown the closeup of the urine going over the stick! Is she really thinking these words are in any way sane???

  224. CdnFillie says:

    Wow..she is just as rude with her fans

    Jessica Says:
    June 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Hi Jill,

    Who is the designer to the glow stick purse you had a LuAnns singing gig?


    jill z Says:
    June 10th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    I posted a few days ago on twitter!

    CdnFillie Says:
    June 11th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    what if we aren’t on Twitter…good answer :<


  225. CdnFillie says:

    some more from her blog…at least my comment stuck 😛

    Scooch Sterling Says:
    June 11th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    How does someone as frank and practical as you stand behind Kelly? Honestly she is unable to really connect with anyone. Not even you, other then to agree and giggle like a school girl , when speaking she is in her own world.making little to zero sence.
    Most of the time your are very polite but look like you don’t get her, and who can blame you she comes from her own planet.
    I am not referring to anything to do with Bethany..friendships often have a life that has many turns…it happens no harm no foul.
    But honestly no matter what anyones opinions of Bethany are, clearly she was NOT the aggressor on that boat, Kelly made her own nightmare…she was at NO point being bullied. Honestly I just don’t get it.


    Scooch Sterling Says:
    June 11th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    She also made fun of your skating outfit….which was not what a friend does….if thats what you wanted to do at your party, your friends should have been cheering for you. it was balsey of you and go you.

    jill z Says:
    June 11th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    I know much more than is shown on TV. Kelly was provoked.


    CdnFillie Says:
    June 11th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    spining makes you dizzy Jill


    • Need a Hobby says:

      Jill wasn’t on the island, hasn’t seen all the video, and so what she “knows” is heresay at best, and if it’s from Kelly….well, that just confirms that Jill “knows” squat.

      And Jill, what rational person responds to any such alleged “provocation” by having a psychotic episode? That’s normal to you? Well, having seen your behavior on and off the TV screen, maybe you do consider that “normal.”