I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny’s New Show June 11, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Bethenny’s Getting Married Premier!  June 11, 2010

I want to first talk about an article I scanned (yes only scanned because it was making me nauseous!)   Many of you probably read it.  The article is from Death By A million(or so ) papercuts….huh?  Anyway, it is something like that.  I’m sure someone here at some point posted the link and Jill posted it twice just in case you missed her…..er their article. 

Clearly whoever wrote this blog doesn’t watch the show, there are way too many missed details and simply WRONG information.  But let’s start with the bloggers suggestion that Bethenny should have graciously accepted Jill’s apology and dropped the subject.

Genius!  I can see it now, Jill says, “Bethenny, I’m really sorry”  Bethenny says, “Wow, thanks Jill, all is forgiven, let’s do lunch”  End of reunion! 

Nobody wants to see that and it would have been fake in any case.   Jill constantly kissing Bethenny’s ass during the reunion was sickening enough to watch, but the fact that just over two weeks later (now) Jill is bashing Bethenny all over again.  Hasn’t she learned?  Jill, you cannot go up against Bethenny and win!  She is better than you, she is nicer than you, and she is more genuine that you, but the most important thing for you to recognize, Jill Zarin, is that we hate you!  You are never going to win back fans by continuing to bash Bethenny.  (some lesson learned Jill Zarin!)  Please tell me you didn’t pay these 4 publicists up front! 

In the Death By 1000 Papercuts post the writer, (who fails to identify themselves except by initials) says that watching the reunion was like watching court TV, judge, jury…blah blah blah…where have we heard that before?  Oh I don’t know, maybe ON the reunion show itself?  I do believe Kelly said something eerily similar on the reunion.  Dear Writer of this substandard blog, if you have to steal material from Kelly Bensimon, it’s time to throw in the laptop!

The writer then goes on to criticize Bethenny for calling Jill a “fame whore”, why?  Because Bethenny has been on three different shows….wow, that does make her a fame whore!   While I know Bethenny is not an actress, isn’t that what people in the entertainment industry do?  They appear in shows, in movies and on stage.  Bethenny should have turned down her own show so as not to be thought of as a media whore?  That makes sense!

The writer of this article says, “Why hold a housewarming party when your fiance moves into your condo?”  This from a writer who claims to have just watched the show.  Mr. or Ms. Writer, Bethenny’s fiancé didn’t move into her condo….the two of them moved together into a new condo. 

From the same article:

“This past season Jill was a “mean girl” and admitted it during the reunion episode. She admitted she held a grudge. Later, after her apology, an apology where Jill didn’t say “I’m sorry but…..”, Jill stated that during the episode at Ramona’s apartment, she asked Bethenny to talk “off camera” because she felt they needed to discuss the issues “in private” away from the Bravo TV cameras. Bethenny admitted this did, indeed occur, which meant Bravo edited out Jill’s request. A request which was appropriate, which Bethenny, during the reunion episode didn’t give an adequate response. Bravo did include in the episode Jill telling Bethenny she “wasn’t ready” and didn’t “bring her list” of what we, the viewers, assumed was list of “grievances”. Bethenny was later filmed crying outside in the street.”

There are so many things wrong with this paragraph that I don’t even know where to begin.  The scene where Bethenny was filmed crying outside in the street was actually after a telephone call with Jill, not after the meeting with Jill.  Jill didn’t say, “I’m sorry but..”?  She said, we all do that, she said she had so many things going on in her life, she said she was dealing with Bobby’s cancer, she admitted that she told Ramona and Alex not to film with Bethenny, just seconds after denying that she said it!   This writer feels it is completely reasonable for Jill to ask and be allowed to talk to Bethenny in private to try to repair this friendship?  Wrong!   Bethenny’s argument aside (she said Jill chose to put Bobby’s cancer on the air, so why not this?)  what about the fact that Jill put everything about this fight with Bethenny on camera, she allowed everyone to listen to a moldy old message from Bethenny, she created a scene at the fashion show, told Luann and Kelly (and 2 million viewers) that Bethenny was toxic.  She said on National Television that she can’t be in the same room with Bethenny and that Bethenny doesn’t deserve her as a friend.  I cannot imagine why Bethenny wouldn’t take the conversation private!

A short time ago I mentioned that I have never taken on another blogger.  I take exception to this writer for a few reasons.  There are enough small errors in the blog to make me believe that the writer doesn’t watch the show.  Also, Jill Zarin sent the link to this blogger’s site out to her “fans” on Facebook, Twitter and JillZarin.com!  I get the feeling that this blogger has been influenced, ghost written or possibly even money exchanged hands….who knows?  I believe that this is not an accurate depiction of the Reunion episode, that’s all!  I’m sure you all can find plenty of other issues with the article.  I don’t mind opposing opinions but get your facts straight and don’t leave out pertinent information.  This writer makes it seem as if we’re only seeing the Jill on the show when there is so many more horrific things that Jill has done off camera –Amazon-gate, BabyGate, Jill’s planting negative stories, trying to get people not to film with Bethenny…and on and on…read some other blogs besides your own! 

 (BTW Jill Zarin, I am for sale, make me an offer and I’ll write a completely inaccurate, false, Jill-Friendly Blog, but it will cost you!)  Yes folks, I’m kidding!

Enough about that bitch!  I loved Bethenny’s Getting Married?  What a refreshing change from seeing Jill’s contorted face as she lies through her teeth and Kelly’s eyerolls followed by blank stares and Luann’s “daahhhlings”!

Bethenny is witty, fun and charming!  She is the Bethenny we saw on RHONY but with so much more of her life shown.  I love her apartment, including her red and white office with her logo’s all over!  I love her new assistant, Max and apparently so do hundreds of thousands of single women looking for a mate!  It was great to see more of Jason and his personality.  He has a great sense of humor and isn’t intimidated by Bethenny.  He will stand up to her and he tells it like it is. 

The interview process was really great, even when Bethenny’s comments start out snarky and even rude, by the end of the interview she seemed to really like these candidates and was funny but complimentary by the end of the meeting. 

We still haven’t really gotten to know Bethenny’s #1 assistant, we saw her on RHONY but her name wasn’t even mentioned.  I’m not sure that she’s going to be a driving force character on the show but it looks like Max will more than make up for that. 

We got to meet a few of Bethenny’s friends (see Ramona, she has friends)  but it is too soon to tell how they will fit into the show and whether they will be regulars then if we will enjoy watching these new friends.  (they are new to us)

The housewarming party was a little uncomfortable and honestly, I’m not sure it would have been better if Jason had been there.  Everyone seemed a little strange around the cameras, almost afraid to speak, we may have even seen a few of those uncomfortable silences we all know and love. 

It was great to see Alex and Simon join the party but I was a little surprised when Bethenny said something in her interview to the tune of “and they’re normal?”  What was that all about?  It seems to me that all the Alex / Bethenny love was all filmed before this scene at the housewarming  … it was just an odd remark for Bethenny to make, I thought. 

I thought it was cute that Alex was giving Bethenny little “tips” about motherhood and how you can make yourself look ready, you can even be somewhere on time but your brain won’t match with what you’re trying to accomplish.  That is so true!  Anyone who is a mom knows that your child never really ever leaves your head! 

The other guests at the party seemed awkward and unusually quiet for a party.  I can certainly see why Bethenny didn’t want to throw this party without Jason by her side! 

The previews look good to me, no drama, just fun!  This is what we’ve all been asking Bravo to provide, we kept saying we didn’t want the drama, arguments and fights and Bethenny’s show is the polar opposite of Real Housewives so I, for one, am going to enjoy every second of it!  I think Bethenny is the perfect personality to take on her own show and to be honest, I’m surprised she hasn’t been picked up by any of the major networks for a project. 

So the good news, Part two of the Real Housewives of New York reunion doesn’t have to wait until Thursday, the second part will be this Monday with the third and final reunion show on Thursday again.  Bethenny’s permanent time slot is Thursday’s at 10pm . 

Until next time….

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467 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny’s New Show June 11, 2010

  1. lillybee says:

    I wonder if Jill knows about Confessions of a Rebel Debutante and if she does will she have Susan Sanders give it a one star review.

  2. Anitabee says:

    Can we talk about LGB1?

    Actually her other articles on the RH have been pretty good so I was stomped when I read this one. I was like did LGB1 really write this?

    I wanted to leave the following message on her blog put I kept getting an error message.

    “LGB1, I have read your articles and have found them to be well versed. So I don’t understand this article about Jill Zarin. You keep stating that Bethenny “should have” forgiven Jill. What it comes across to me is that you are really stating that Bethenny “HAS TO” forgive Jill Zarin.

    Why?

    Because Jill gave an insincere apology at a reunion?

    LGB, if someone screws you over to the 10th degree over and over again, I think it’s crazy to forgive that person and call them a friend again. It’s a case of fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me thrice F**k the high road and go to hell.

    See, that the chance you take when you PURPOSELY wrong someone. They DO NOT have to forgive you. That’s why you should NOT do it to begin with. AND you definitely don’t do time and time again and again and again.

    Hmmm…sounds like no one has ever screwed you over royally. I wish we could all be so lucky.”

    And I loved BGM!!!

    • katiecoo says:

      I don’t know why people can’t see that a BREAKUP is a BREAKUP. Like Bethenny said a DIVORCE.

      Most people want nothing further to do with the person they are breaking up with unless they have to (like kids involved and they have to endure that). There’s a reason they find themselves incompatible, there are deal breakers, irreconcilable differences, they break up and move on.

      Why just because these two once had a history, which then became fraught with pain and suffering, backstabbing, tears, sabotage, betrayal, etc. etc. should we assume they can “work it out” because they just have this history.

      Hey I have lots of great memories with my ex boyfriend…yes “we were great together”…sure! Before he decided to cheat on me repeatedly, lie to me, blame me for HIS cheating and basically turning in to a person I should avoid for the rest of my life. But because we had that history I should let all that go, forgive him and start hanging out again? Excuse my Friday French but I must say “FUCK THAT BULLSHIT”!!!! (quoting myself of course). 😀

      • error 404 says:

        Like I said before, they are former coworkers who had a falling out after a brief period of friendliness. I wish people would stop acting like they grew up together…. like Annie Potts and the Lawyer chick from that lifetime show.

        Jill says they were like sisters. Jill has a sister. A sister she had a huge fight with and didn’t speak to for several years.

    • DLA says:

      Holy whatever! Could not love ya more.

      • DLA says:

        Lynn. I am having a problem with your site. The comments I want to leave are not in the right spot.

      • DLA says:

        Lynn. Will you please give an e-mail address for old ladies like me.

        BtheB would never say “holy whatever”

  3. Shadowsnomore says:

    Another great blog and assessment Lynn. That article in “Papercuts” made me ill just reading it. I kept thinking….have you really been paying attention to this season and during the reunion? It was sooooo far off the mark. I am also loving B’s new show. It is a refreshing departure from the Jill drama.

  4. boston02127 says:

    Hi Lynn, Excellent Blog as usual.

  5. error 404 says:

    I think it’s obvious that Jill and Bethenny were influencing each others opinions about the other housewives. Once B & J split up, it was like B was seeing Ramona and Alex for the first time. Same with Jill and Kiki, but that’s so off the hook, I can’t even go there. Anyway, I think the “and their normal” comment was B’s way of answering for the viewers the “why are you all of a sudden bffs with Silex when you used to hate them?” question before they even had a chance to ask it. She’s very audience astute that way.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Great blog! I’m bringing over the link in case anyone missed it!

      http://sixpondmeadow.com/10520/?p=2557&cpage=1#comment-187

    • I don’t necessarily agree with this. Because Jill never actually “hated” Alex until this season, I doubt she was trying to get her off the show and get people to hate her in season 2. I think B had a def friendship going with Alex from the beginning. Despite B’s not-so-nice comments, and the fact that everyone clearly though Silex was weird, Alex was always the one that B talked to and cried to from the very beginning. I just think that with Jill out of her life she began to actually appreciate Alex for the friend that she had always been to her, and she backed off with the negative remarks. Unlike BRA, I don’t think that Jill’s relationship with Kelly is real or genuine at all. I think Jill thinks that Kelly is as koo koo as the rest of us do, and her being on Kelly’s side is a lot less about her wanting to defend Kelly and a lot more about her wanting to go against B. Kelly is the only one who will be full force against B with her, she is the only one on the show who hates her as much and is as jealous of her as Jill is, and I imagine she is easily manipulated and controlled which Jill’s favorite quality in a friend.

  6. Delurking says:

    Love your blog Lynn!
    Long time reader, first time posting, obviously.

    Thought you all would enjoy this 30 minute
    interview with Beth. It’s from June 09…

    http://obsessedtv.com/2009/06/samantha-ettus-interviews-entrepreneur-and-tv-star-bethenny-frankel/

    Not sure this will come up as a ‘link’ …if not, copy paste I guess. It’s so
    worth it!

    • Jen says:

      GREAT interview! Thanks for posting.

    • HousewifeInCurlers says:

      Interesting link, thanks! You can tell she was having problems with Jill at that time because it didn’t seem like she wanted to talk much about her. But I thought it was interesting how her opinion of Silex in June of last year (they are aliens, lol) has changed to now.
      However, I did catch the comment she made about them on her new show when she mentioned in her talking head that they were coming over. She was like “Um, Yah…. they are normal?” Like she STILL couldn’t believe she is friends with them or something.

    • pippi longstocking says:

      Thank you so much for the post! It was so refreshing to listen to her at length without commercial interruption.

    • TLM says:

      That is fantastic …it really filled in a lot of holes in B’s background that I wondered about. Funny that such an obscure interview would do that, whereas the more major publications have not. Thanks for sharing!!

    • Kat says:

      Thank you for sharing the video link. The interview shows Bethenney’s perspective and sort of frames the series for me.

    • Ellabean says:

      Delurking!

      That was a GREAT GREAT video find on Bethenney! I knew alot about her background – but that interview was by far the best and it provided so much more of her backstory. Good on you for the find and again thanks so much for sharing it here.

  7. Delurking says:

    YAY …it worked!
    Going back into lurker mode………carry on!
    LOL

  8. chismosa says:

    So wait, there is an actual “fictional” book- out- that is a biography/ memoir or actual fiction- and was written by a woman who truly did tutor Ally? And she mentions these people by actual names or just alludes, like, a Jewish upper east sider who’s husband owns a downtown fabric business… ??? That is cool.

    Bethenny’s friend on the show, Lauren was in season 1- she was so hysterical back then and it is so nice to see her pregnant now at the same time as Bethenny.

    Lynn i can’t believe these a$$holes at that other website, they must be in bed with Cheban or the other PR guys, that is all that it can be.
    Anyone who has seen Jonathan Cheban on Keeping up with the Kardashians, or his actual spinoff show sees what a weirdo he is and not the PR person i would probably hire.
    Bad move, people are not idiots, the audience knows what is true and will call out the blogger on the incorrect info.

    I loved BGM and hope it does continue on. Without exploiting Bryn when she is like 5 yrs old. Till she’s 2/3 tops. then B should bow out of tv.

    • it’s a true story although the author says she exaggerated her experiences for humor, but that her stories are true. She wrote that in response to the 1-star review. I’ve included her response below. And here’s the amazon link to the book. It’s definitely on my to buy list.

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399156313/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

      Showing 1-2 of 2 posts in this discussion
      Initial post: June 7, 2010 6:37 PM PDT
      Anna Fields says:
      Hi, Hockey Fan. Since you’re not from North Carolina, I can understand your confusion and misunderstanding. Many women (and men) who’ve read my book, and who are from North Carolina — or know anything about Debutante culture — have told me that they find it extremely relevant to the South. It seems that people who’ve actually lived in North Carolina and read my book do, in fact, recognize the South that they know inside my book. While my experiences were exaggerated for humor, and names and details were changed to protect private persons and make the tone light and funny, my stories are true. Certainly not fictional, at best. Then again, I guess you’d have to have actually lived in North Carolina during the 1980’s – 2000’s to know that.

      Also, simply fyi, I was indeed an assistant for Diana Ross and a tutor for Ally Shapiro, Jill Zarin’s daughter. If you have any doubt, please feel free to contact me at Anna@rebeldeb.com… or, you can simply ask either of them. 🙂

      thanks!
      Anna

      1 of 1 people think this post adds to the discussion. Do you? Yes No
      Posted on June 7, 2010 6:37 PM PDT
      Anna Fields says:
      Oh, and p.s…. the “renting Graceland” stuff was a joke. It’s always good to know how to take one. 🙂

      • fredthecattravels says:

        AFormerJillFan, do you think the one star review could be in any way related to Jill Zarin?

        Reasons I think why:

        The reviewer may be an interior designer because over half the books she reviewed were on interior design. She’s got skin in the game and may be a client of Zarin Fabrics.

        Secondly, she mentioned Jill Zarin by name.

  9. cusi77 says:

    Excellent!

    Thank you Lynn!

    I was personally disgusted by that innacurate article about the Reunion…

    How refreshing to watch Bethenny Getting Married? We can just love her!

  10. lillybee says:

    I believe the book is an autobiography. As far as I know she names names and did work for JZ. I should read it. If Jill knows about this book, Jill will not be happy.

  11. chismosa says:

    thanks lillybee, if this is true, omg Susan Saunders will $hit a brick. i love it!!! Let’s get the news out there and pump up Amazon sales rankings!

    ps i watched the View online and that Hasselback is such a bitch. Bethenny was gracious and nice, and Andy is right, i think they were mean-ish to her.

    • lillybee says:

      I watched it too, I thought that Sherrie was a bitch; she was the one who compared Bethenny to Oramrosa.

      • katiecoo says:

        I was like WTH on that??? Jill Zarin is more comparable to Omarosa. I’m glad Bethenny corrected that perception saying SHE was more comparable to Elizabeth Hasselback in terms of popularity/success (although I do think Bethenny would win the popularity contest over Hasselback who’s quite controversial politically).

  12. OT – SUMMER BOOK READING LIST:

    1. Girls in Trucks – Katie Crouch and if I like it, then
    2. Men and Dogs (both at my local library. Yeah!)
    3. The Help – Kathryn Stockett (library – 6 holds already! Ugh! This may be late summer or fall even!)
    4. Best American Short Stories of the Century – John Updike, Katrina Kenison (library)
    5. Coming of Age in Mississippi – Ann Moody (interlibrary loan)
    6. Bethenny Frankel – Naturally Thin (I own this)
    7. Bethenny Frankel – The Skinnygirl Dish
    8. The Recipe Club – (library) reading now
    9. Confessions of a Rebel Debutante – Anna Fields
    10. Alice in Wonderland (free kindle for pc edition) reading now

    That’s all for now although I have a lot of free kindle for pc classics that I can read anytime. I’m open for other suggestions too.

    • I forgot one more. It is or was a book that Alex McCord is/was reading during the airing of RHONY:

      11. The Beautiful and the Damned by F. Scott Fitzgerald (free pc for kindle edition)

      • Dolce says:

        Trilogy – “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” is first book. I found them an excellent read. If you scroll down on the Amazon link, you will find the others. Do read them in order. At the bottom of the Amazon link is a list of other books. My daughter read “The Help,” and said it was good.

        http://www.amazon.com/Girl-Dragon-Tattoo-Stieg-Larsson/dp/1847245455

        Also, I love Vince Flynn. He has written many books. Murder, mayhem and politcal intrigue based in Washington DC. If you choose him start with the first book.

        The hysterically funny Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich

        • Lolo says:

          Oh, I don’t have any tattoos.

          : D

        • Zipit Zarin! says:

          I just finished reading The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and was trying to think of a way to bring up the fact that so many people here remind me of her …so witty, extremely smart, *unusual* upbringing and survived to not be victims, and most of all the way they can find stuff on the internet about our favorite hobby …HATING JILL ZARIN! I can’t wait to read the rest of the series. Sux that the author died so there’s only 3 books. I wonder who will play Lisbeth in the movie 😀

          • myname2use4now says:

            I finished The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and The Girl Who Played With Fire. LOVE them both and I’m going to see the Tattoo movie in a few minutes. I’m going to buy The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets this weekend (the last book in the series). I love the character of Lisbeth Salander, and yes, probably because she’s a survivor like many of us on here. 🙂

    • Jennifer says:

      I have read several of these, The Help was good. B’s books wee good too. I am also putting Confessions on my list so 1 more sale on Amazon for Anna 🙂

    • Kat says:

      @A former Jill fan ~ Thank you for the tip on the free Kindle app for PCs!
      Looks like I’ll reading “The Man Who Laughs” when I’m not reading here.
      8) A virtual digital library, I’m happy. 8)

  13. error 404 says:

    Ok, the two weirdest “conspiracy theory” off the hook crazy comments from that ‘death by 1k cuts’ blog were:

    1. B married J just to bring drama to her show. Eeerily similar to Jill’s theory about Alex season 3.

    2. Bravo’s tragedy to separate B form the other gals. Umm…we all saw B in multiple scenes with multiple cast members. The only time B wasn’t seen with others, were the time Jill refused to be int he same place with her. Hmmm… Then of course Silex and Ramona are on B’s new show… so I guess Bravo execs have trouble remembering their own plans?

    Seriously, even I don’t BWI (blogging while intoxicated)

  14. Jill's dastardly plans says:

    I’ve liked the 1000 papercuts blogs all season long. This one was kind of a shocker.

    Has anyone told A Chandler about that book? I am SURE she would be happy to review it!

  15. Smompy says:

    Wow, it’s awully disappointing to read about such an innacurate blog post. That site usually puts out valid stuff based on real information. Clearly that’s not the case this time. I didn’t catch the “and they’re normal?” comment from Bethenny. I’ll have to pay closer attention the next time I catch this episode. And after my second viewing, I actually like the show even more than I did before. It wasn’t perfect and I think needs to find its own perfect pace, but there were a lot of really funny moments for me. Long live BGM! Long die the redheaded shrew!

  16. Tam5115 says:

    First time posting, long time reader.

    I wasn’t a Jill fan before, but the reunion really made it make sense.

    When Bethanny did her best to explain to Jill what really happened…. man, that’s it, isn’t it? Who wants a best friend who is never happy for you? Who wants a best friend who will only reply, “what about ME?” B is right, the fame, the exposure, etc… has gone to Jill’s head. Maybe Jill was once a nice person, but she’s not a nice person anymore.

    • katiecoo says:

      Hi Tam,

      Agree completely…I was glad she brought up the whole “glam” issue…Jill decided to become the femme fatale vs. the nice mother figure…and newsflash, it’s not working. You don’t get to re-do high school at this stage…no!

      Welcome to the posting world. 🙂

      • Tam5115 says:

        Thanks, Katie. I’m not new to the posting world, just new to posting here. LOL

        It’s gone to Jill’s head, absolutely. She may have been a nice and wonderful person at one time but she’s not anymore. Now, she’s a vindictive, manipulative, nasty and petty person.

        I’d like to be the bigger person, really, I would… but right now, I want to jack Jill right in the puss! (get your mind outta the gutter, The mouth, people.)

        And Kelly? she needs hospitalization. For real.

        • DeeWhoLovesAlex says:

          Never would commit to hating JZ before. Just did not care enough about her. Yet tonight watched again the reunion show (thanks dish) and when Crzy Kell was nice and told Alex to cross her legs JZ gave her a look like WTF are you doing?

          Kell is sick. We all understand this to be a fact.

          Yet use her sickness Jill to your advantage.

          Now I really do hate this c=nt.

  17. Shadowsnomore says:

    Don’t know if this review has been posted yet. I loved their assessment of Kelly!

    http://jezebel.com/5561025/rhonyc-reunion-shit-gets-real?skyline=true&s=i

    • error 404 says:

      my favorite comment to that blog:

      “I hate to repeat this over and over again but I am a nanny at the same school Kelly’s girls go to so I have seen her many, many times, and I can verify that she is both vile and completely disconnected from reality. ”

      error is doing a “told ya so..told ya so..” dance.

  18. Kotagirl says:

    Well written and well played Lynn. I also read the Jill endorsement “recap” on Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts. You pointed out every mistake that jumped out at me too. Not too mention the subtle “Bravo edited it to look that way. . .” hints that jumped out of just about every paragraph. I have to think that whoever wrote that blog is watching the same episodes as Jill, Kelly, and Luann. It is the same kind of history re-write we viewers have been seeing all season. Let’s just call a spade a spade already. All the women on that show have made their share of snarky comments and behind the back gossip, but Jill sunk to a new low.

    Then there was the incident of not wanting to talk to Bethenny on camara, I have a couple things to say about that:

    1. Of course Jill wanted to have the conversation off camara, that way she would be able to tell everyone that she was the bigger person and she forgave Bethenny for x, y, and z, and put her own little Jill spin on it.

    2. She said in the reunion that she didn’t want to make up with Bethenny on camara because it was a “real” friendship. Does that mean that Bobby’s cancer was fake, or the argument was fake, or her reasons were fake? We are supposed to be watching a REALITY show about the REAL housewives and their REAL lives, right? Is she admitting that she has been putting on a fake persona for the past three seasons?

    Jill likes the women to chase her and beg for her friendship and when Bethenny finally said screw you Jill couldn’t handle it. I guess Bethenny finally realized that Jill’s “friendship” wasn’t worth the effort.

    Finally, three cheers for Alex and finally standing up to the women that spent so much of their time running her down. I really think that Bethenny, Ramona, and Alex are building real relationships that have nothing to do with the show or ratings. Someone once told me, and I think there is truth to it, that you will have a better long-term friendship with someone whom you don’t immediately hit it off with than you will with someone whom you do.

    Love the blog, Love Bethenny’s new show, and I HATE JILL ZARIN!

    • Jennifer says:

      I took all the ‘ it was editted that way’ remarks in the blog as proof it was Jills PR shit, because lately every blog where her PR plp are the spew this editing crap. Remeber the AmandaR from reality tea who hit called out as Jill’s publicist, the editing stuff was her whole spin too

  19. JKW says:

    I think Jill knew what she should have done..per the PR people. I think she went into the reunion with every intention of being humble, apologize and show remorse. (play the poor Jill card ) However, I don’t think she can pull it off. That just isn’t her. It was killing her to listen to the comments and not make excuses or qualify every apology. The PR people can hammer her forever to do the right thing…but she can’t sit and listen to critcism for any amount of time. That may be one of the reasons she leaves the stage…she can come back and try follow the PR peoples instructions.

    • katiecoo says:

      You can tell she’s been coached to sit there and smile. But unfortunately for Jill, even her smile comes through as a sneer most of the time. At best!

    • Anitabee says:

      I wonder if Jill has surrounded herself with “yes” people. No way were the PR people able to come up with all the possible scenarios that would pop up at a 9 hour reunion shoot.

      They probably told her to keep saying sorry and act like she really meant it. That’s the problem she doesn’t mean it. Her vindictiveness always gets the better of her. That’s why she attacks Alex like a pitbull all bark but no proof.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        This idiot (Jill) is lounging in her bed with her PR person and STILL couldn’t tweet the right things!

        If this guy is even halfway decent at his job, he had to have been telling her to solidify the statements that were being made on the show. Point out that she was trying to become a better person, post tweets that show she’s changed (even if she hasn’t) ANYONE would be telling her to do that but this was her PR guy watching the show with her while she is tweeting nasty things about Bethenny and Alex?

        Was this guy sitting there laughing with Jill or at Jill or was he angry too and encouraging her to tweet that crap? Was he thinking to himself, “what the hell do I care what she tweets, I’ve got my check”. Was he screaming at her, “Jill, listen to me, you have to stop, you’re ruining your reputation even more” and Jill ignored him?

        I just don’t get it!

        • Shadowsnomore says:

          Seems to me that in Jills’ case “Money can’t buy you good PR”!

        • Tam5115 says:

          He/she would give advice to Jill. The problem is that Jill will not follow that advice. Trust me, I know this from personal experience. Not with Jill, with a singer from a newly signed band. Yikes….

          Besides, Jill is a BITCH! No doubt about it, she’s horrid.

          • MorgaineSwann says:

            Oh, yeah, I’ve seen singers destroy a lot of great bands as soon as they get signed, or just as they’re about to. They just won’t listen, then they get mad at you when they do what you warned them not to and it blows up just as you told them it would.

            The thing is, a PR person can’t make you somebody you’re not and in Jill’s case, she doesn’t have the normal socialization that would guide her in choosing the best response in a pressure situation. In the heat of the reunion, she falls back on her natural tendency to not take responsibility for anything she’s done. In her mind, she’s never wrong, and trying to act as if she’s remorseful just doesn’t work.

        • Anitabee says:

          Didn’t Jill tweet something like Brad showed up with 10 people?

          She was surrounded by family, friends and PR people and she still tweeted those attacks and lies???

          Another secret her mother didn’t tell Jill: Jill you better check yourself before you wreck yourself.

          What a trainwreck.

        • error 404 says:

          kinda like the woman who tutored Ally 6 hrs a week for 3 months, and then Ally got all Cs and Ds.

        • HousewifeInCurlers says:

          I don’t think Jill cares anymore. I’m guessing she’s not planning to come back next season anyway, so in her mind ‘all gloves are off.’ She couldn’t last long with the whole PR ‘behave and be nice” stuff.

        • MorgaineSwann says:

          Is it possible that Jill hired PR people who don’t watch the show and they only know her side of it? That would explain why nothing she’s doing is working for her.

          • Tam5115 says:

            PR people wouldn’t care about others. Their job is their clients.

            If Jill isn’t following their advice then what can they do?

        • DeeWhoLovesAlex says:

          Love Him!

          I think he knows what is all about.

        • DLA says:

          Do you like her?

          I love him.

        • DLA says:

          I think her or she loves Lynn.

        • ImToula says:

          Lynn,
          Don’t knock it. It may be the only action going on in Jill’s bed.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Looks like Jill’s PR person might be more interested in getting his own name out their than repairing Jill’s.

          http://kimkardashian.celebuzz.com/tag/jonathan-cheban/

    • Jen says:

      I agree… she had a different strategy going in but she couldn’t pull it off and as B said she just keeps getting in her own way. Her insecurity buttons get pushed and she reacts defensively and throws any semblence of what’s right away.

      I think this comment below from the Jezebel article says it all and it’s really sad.

      “I think it would be a bitter pill to swallow if I had to listen how horrible of a person I am for nine hours. No amount of money or fame would be worth subjecting myself or my family to a reality show. I love myself too much to do that.”

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The road to hell is paved with good intentions – Jill continues to supply them!

  20. lillybee says:

    I expect reunion 2 and 3 to be showing Jill at her finest.

    • Tam5115 says:

      Jill can’t keep her mouth shut. she may have 10 PR people helping her, she won’t follow their advice.

      My God, Jill pisses me off.

  21. lillybee says:

    According to Ginger Zarin’s twitter, Jill’s book is available at TJMaxx for 3.99. She wonders if Ramona brokered the sale.

    • Anitabee says:

      I know this is snarky but ….

      The food blogger looks like the end result of what would happen if Ginger Zarin and Jill Zarin mated and had a kid.

    • Free Ginger (formerly known as wolverinedg) says:

      I actually liked him. 🙂 I thought at first “O.M.G. this will be painful,” but then he starts right in, talking about food & restaurants & even a place B didn’t know about!!

  22. JKW says:

    Katie…I agree, the smile is so fake. She probably thinks she is doing what they said but it’s the same look she blew off Alex with at the vow renewal. She also can’t control rolling her eyes. At the start of the show she looked almost embarrassed. As the hits kept coming she just couldn’t keep it up.

  23. katiecoo says:

    My goodnight parting shot. I wish that brilliant cartoonist would make another one for the reunion. And in my fantasy cartoon, Jill is sitting across the laps of 4 PR /image consultants who are all holding contraptions with mics attached to earphones plugged all around her ears and every time she opens her mouth, the cacaphony starts of “say this…don’t say anything…shhhh….” until she grabs them all off, yells “LEAVE”! and just lambasts Andy Cohen for even allowing them on the show. Something like that….

    Nite all! zzzzzzzzzzzzz

  24. Adgirl says:

    Jill thinks she’s Bethenny’s “Entertainment Agent”.
    Jill thought she hired Bethenny to be her sidekick.
    But she forgot to get Bethenny to sign her contract.
    Then Bethenny’s career took OFF!!

    I wonder if Jill tried to launch a lawsuit against Bethenny and Bravo but her attorney told her to stuff it.

    Jill retaliates:
    “I made you who you are today!”
    “You owe me!”
    “I will ruin you!”
    ” YOU’LL NEVER WORK IN THIS TOWN AGAIN!”

    • Anitabee says:

      At this rate by the time Jill Zarin sees both Alex McCord and Ramona Singer at Bethenny’s wedding on BGM, her head will EXPLODE.

      Good, then Andy can cast a real socialite in her place.

      Btw, on Bravo’s BGM site they have pics of Bethenny’s wedding. Alex and Ramona look beautiful. Alex looks like Royalty. Ramona’s dress is fabulous.

  25. Anitabee says:

    Wow. Does this story sound familiar?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/item_4Go4yfpRnIdYQQoPeLYZoL

    “Publicist Jonathan Cheban is freaking out. The soon-to-be reality star sent around a mass e-mail begging for security protection during Fashion Week. “Does anyone know anyone who can operate as a driver and primarily as security?” Cheban asked. “I’ve been getting some crazy threats lately, and I’d rather be safe than sorry when I attend the shows.” A rep from Cheban’s office told us, “This was a private e-mail sent to friends on a personal matter.”

    The picture with the article is very telling.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      That’s the genius Jill has as a PR rep? No wonder the wheels are coming off the Zarin express.

      • MorgaineSwann says:

        If you put a wig on that guy, he’d look just like Kelly. Why would anybody threaten a publicist?

      • DeeWhoLovesAlex says:

        Love, love, love

        J’s PR people.

      • Jennifer says:

        He is Kelly’s too

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        He is also very good friends with= and worked for the Kardashian sisters. He’s been on their show.

        I’d be willing to bet Danielle isn’t the only person guilty of releasing their own sex tape.

    • kokuanani says:

      Is he trying to somehow imply that he’s afraid those Evil Legions who are “threatening” Jill Zarin will come after him as well?

      Wow, that’s some powerful PR: create a “threat” out of thin air, and then be “threatened” by it yourself!!!

      • Anitabee says:

        This hapenned in 2009 but it IS interesting how he “supposedly” received email threats and now as Jill’s PR, she is also being threatened.

        Can anyone else hear the tick-tock on Jill’s 15 minutes? Aren’t we down to 13:59 on the clock? She’s got one minutes left. And you know this beast won’t go down without taking someone with her. Poor Kelly.

  26. Lena says:

    Can someone please explain Bethenny’s pregnancy timeline. She mentions she is 6 1/2 months pregnant and the wedding is roughly a month or so away which we know was in March 2010. How then was the baby born a month early at the beginning of May? Seems like May would have been nine months.

    • MorgaineSwann says:

      She was born very early in May. 6 1/2 months plus 6 weeks is just 8 months which makes the baby a month early. Bryn was due in June, but was born May 8.

      • desertgal66 says:

        The timeline, as presented on the show, IS confusing. If Bethenny was 6 1/2 months along in late February, then she would have been 8 1/2 months in late April…and Bryn was born in early May, so B. would have been right around 9 months.

        I think there is a strong possibility that the scene where B. said she was 6 1/2 months along was filmed much closer to the wedding than the scene where she mentioned that the wedding was a month away, and Bravo’s editing put the comments in the wrong order.

        • Zarout! says:

          I think it’s confusing because when calculating your due date, the doctors use a 10 month time table. They go from your last menstrual period. If you take that into consideration, then I think her timing makes sense.

    • Tam5115 says:

      Her due date was early June. She gave birth 5 weeks early.

  27. ShyAsrai says:

    sounds like that post could have been written by Krazy Kelly… hmmm

  28. HD says:

    I have been posting here for a while so I am not a troll and not here to incite flames and tension but I am telling you…this show-BGM- was not the best decision…there is NO way on God’s green earth I would have taped me not only being pregnant BUT getting married as well. This was not a smart move. And also, before you all slay me, let me get it all out-Bethanny and Jason seem worlds apart. I have said this before. They seem complete opposites to me and I wonder how they will mesh. The whole video of them moving (the basketball incident) made my eye go up. Also my eye went up when Jason made his remark about couples needing therapy early on in their relationship.

    For some reason and maybe I am wrong but I wish they did not take this time to be on camera. New reationships need nurturing not cameras. I love B and as you ALL know I HATE JILL but I am telling you this is not right and something tells me this will NOT come off good on camera. (I have been wanting to say that but I knew that the I hate jill brigade would come for me. I am ready. Satchels of gold.)

  29. MorgaineSwann says:

    Keeping the Faith has their review of the Reunion up:

    http://www.jewishjournal.com/keepingthefaith/

  30. 212 says:

    Big C card…played.
    Victim card…played.

    Same PR people as Kim Kardashian, eh?

    Bethenny Getting Married?…..pffft!

    Jillousy Getting F’cked?….YES!
    http://bit.ly/cgMZ56

    • LynnNChicago says:

      OMG A Jill Zarin sex tape? GAG ME! It worked for Kardashian but she was young and (some agree) hot….it just wouldn’t play the say for Zarin….mwhahahahah

  31. Rabble Rouser says:

    I wasn’t crazy about “Bethany is getting married?”. I wrote a comment on her Bravo blog about it that explained why (which probably won’t get posted) so I am sharing it with you.

    “Bethany,

    I wish you success in all your ventures, but I really hope you give caution in regards to a show that solely profiles you as a wife and mother.

    RHONY effected the dynamics of a friendship, and that was with a cast of other women to help take the focus off of you. Do you really want to subject your marriage and your parenting to this type of scrutiny?

    It’s been one episode and we’ve already seen your first on camera argument with your now husband. Jason is being called a homosexual (not that there is anything wrong with it-but it’s been said as an attack) in the press by a pathetic has been.

    Did you ever hear of the curse of getting someone’s named tattoo-ed on you? Well reality show marriages also have curse.

    Jon and Kate
    Nick and Jessica
    Carmen Electra and Dave Navarro
    Britney and Kevin
    Travis Barker and Shanna Moakler
    Danny Bonaduce and Gretchen
    Terry Bollea (Hulk Hogan) and Linda
    Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown

    Heidi and Spencer (Yes I know the current separation is a media ploy but everyone knows those two fn idiots are headed for divorce)

    Not to mention housewifes from RHOC and RHOA, now going through VERY public divorces.

    Please, do a Dina like on the RHONJ and keep your husband and child out of this.”

    I apologize to those of you who love the show and think that Bethany can do no wrong- but the truth is like many of us she is not perfect. She is admittedly very damaged by her upbringing and has had a history of having a hard time maintaining relationships under seemingly normal circumstances. I fear nothing good will come from this and the overexposure will hurt her in the long run.

    • DeeWhoLovesAlex says:

      I also had a problem with this show.

      I hate the peeing in public.

      Aside from that. I love this chick.

      Have a hubby just like J.

      Yes they do exist.

      Not so different than R and Mario

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      I understand your concern and really “get” your view of things.

      I kinda, KIND of, feel the same way. I’m hoping that it will remain light and she’ll only do ONE season. I hope the season does SO WELL that it will be an example to other shows that you can have a successful show without it being so negative and dramatic. Then I hope that she will walk away from it, having gained a bigger audience and demographic for her brand.

      Although I never watched an entire season of The Osbornes, they’re still together but they were married for YEARS and come from a different lifestyle/culture or whatever. B & J are a newly formed team and could benefit from “not too much publicity on every detail of their relationship” so early.

      • Shelli (lotusflowah) says:

        I thought the show was cute but have to say I share the same misgivings. My tweet to her and Andy was to encourage her to continue therapy. ESPECIALLY if she’s going to continue to be on TV. Those of us with childhood/adult traumas tend to only get the consequences and beg off the cautious advice.

        I always wish her well, though.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I don’t think Bethany is the only one who needs see a psychologist or psychiatrist on the RH series. 🙂

          I actually left a comment/question for Andy asking if future housewifes should have to have a mental health check up before they are medically cleared for filming.

      • DLA says:

        Why do you wish her well and hope she will walk away with one season?

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I don’t see wishing someone well and hoping they know where to draw the line as conflicting few points.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I had too much Turtle Time last night when I wrote that. “conflicting few points” (sic) should read conflicting VIEW points.

        • Fabulous Earth says:

          Because there seems to be a “build you up and then cut you down” mentality with reality stars (or celebs in general). The longer you are “out there” the more likely folks/media/jealous/etc will take the opportunity to pick and dismantle your reputation.

          Because B has a serious business/brand that she developed BEFORE the housewives series, she’s not dependent on this type of business to “make a living” – promote yes, but depend on – no.

          Also, since Jason doesn’t seem like a proponent for media-type nonsense, too much exposure into their “new” relationship/life could weigh on them. That’s why I hope she decides to do one show and GAIN a TON of followers from it.

          I want the absolute BEST for B cuz she’s as real and wonderful as they come on TV. I love that woman!!!!

          • LynnNChicago says:

            I thought Bethenny said something about NOT allowing Bryn too much air time..They will most likely show her right after she is born…we also know B’s Baby shower was filmed after the birth but I doubt she will be showing too much of the baby.

            If there is a 2nd season, she can refer to Bryn here and there but not necessarily have her on screen….but the list of troubled/ended marriages sure does make you think…huh?

            • ImToula says:

              I think it’s a good idea to keep Bryn away from the cameras. As a mother she wants to protect her child. Good for her and Bryn.
              Marriages end for many reasons. Does anyone have any data about movie stars that divorce? The public life that they lead and the lack of privacy is an issue.

    • DLA says:

      I don’t really know how the comments are placed on this blog but FU-YU.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      I really don’t think you can compare Bethenny and Jason to Danny Bonaduce and Gretchen, Travis and Shanna or even Whiteny and Bobby. Those relationships already had problems before anything else happened. What I saw was Jason holding his own and not getting bulldozed by Bethenny. Fighting is normal and Bravo is going to edit to put what people will want to see. Yes, we saw a fight, but we also saw Jason seriously attracted to pregnant Bethenny, banter, joking, how much Jason loves Cookie (so funny when Jason asked if Cookie liked Max)….they’re normal.

      As someone else said Ozzy and Sharon are still together, as an example, as are Ramona and Mario, Vicki and Donn, Laurie and George. For each of those there are a Jeana, Tamra and LuAnn. They are no different than the statistics for US marriages. Some people started their relationships on camera are still together i.e. Rob and Amber from Survivor, Rachel and Sean from Real World just off the top of my head.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Many relationships have trouble because the people in them are troubled as individuals first. Are we not to believe Bethany’s own words when on last seasons reunion she described herself as damaged? I totally get that she is trying to work past her issues, I hope she is successful in conquering her demons. I just feel that trying to resolve this on camera will hurt her more than it will help her.

        While fighting maybe normal, filming it and letting people observe it for entertainment certainly isn’t.

        Nene Leaks and DeShawn Snow are also on the list of the causalities of the curse.

        I would give pause to list Lauri and George as couples who ‘made it’. I’m in the OC and everything I have heard about those two isn’t pleasant to say the least. Not to mention the biggest causality in Lauri’s personal relationships is her son.

        Rob and Amber- have appeared on reality game shows since their marriage, I see it as less intrusive than the variety were are discussing.

        While it’s comforting to look to Ozzie and Sharon, as another user pointed out they had the benefit of strong foundation before the camera’s started rolling.

        Obviously only time will tell what will happen. I’ll be happy to be wrong. But I feel I have valid reasons about having trepidations on all of this.

        Imagine if Jill left RHONY last season when she was still on top of the mountain. Sometimes less truly is more.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      no need to apologize, you are entitled to your opinion. You know, you have a point about reality show marriage curses, I hope it doesn’t happen to Bethenny

  32. DeeWhoLovesAlex says:

    I love Alex because she said to B “We are all damaged”. Still mad at Simon for not being her “wingman”.

  33. DeeWhoLovesAlex says:

    WOW! Not going to name names. Lynn (who I think is great for providing this site for us) asked us all to not to get personal, so I will just say WOW what a bitch.

    Sorry I mean what a c=nt

    RHONY effected the dynamics of a friendship?

    I so agree. They gave a fame whore named Jill a place to act like an ass.

    I Hate RHONY. (cause they show the truth)

    “I really have to give you caution in regards to a show that solely profiles you as a wife and mother”

    I spent a lot more time than I should have to look smart to you. My mistake.

    That girl has overcome more than a lot of us could ever have in our life.

    I am not smart, I do not speak or spell or speak well but this is what I have to say.

    F. YOU.

    If you are an example of a great wife and mother than you suck at it.

    • Shelli (lotusflowah) says:

      I took the part about wife/mother as a caution, since she is a new wife/mother. Let’s face it, it’s hard enough in the first year of marriage but to add a child and cameras… that would be tough for anyone.

      Guess I didn’t see what was so awful about that post.

      • DLA says:

        My first reaction was “then you are a dumb ass”.

        Then I realized perhaps I was the “dumb ass”.

        I have been on this site for quite a while. Just reading. Never could be ok with the “I Hate”.

        Tonight after watching a recorded RHONY I saw for the first time. Kelly is crazy BUT Jill used this to her own advant– cant spell but you know what I mean…and I am not being mean.

        She is just horrible.

        How can anyone justify using a mentally sick woman?

        BTW. From what I have read on the INTER they are all making 100,000 a year to put “it out there”.

        • Alexa Rose says:

          I have to agree with feeling uncomfortable with the “I hate” part of this website title. I do not hate JZ (I reserve that emotion for murderer, rapists, etc. –and clearly she is none of that) but her actions and words speak to her lack of character. If I ever bump into her I would take Alex’s advice and practice “basic civility.”

      • DLA says:

        Really? Look am not trying to be unkind. (Yes I know this is the I hate ? someone site) but really

        What the hell? Where are all the first time moms out there.

        SUPPORT HER.

        DAMN IT.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          You’re still not getting it.

          The show hasn’t even shown Bryn yet and all ready she is facing criticism as a mother for having a baby nurse. For example, what do you think these same critics would say the first time they see a ‘scene’ where the baby cries and the nurse picks her up instead of Bethany because she on a business call?

          Have you looked at some of the comments and criticisms that some of the other children on these shows are subjected to.

          Just because I say basically say ‘Be careful, now there are going to be more fingers pointed at you’ doesn’t mean MY finger is out.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Who are you addressing? You seem to be taking pieces of my post and placing them randomly then going off on some separate tangent.

      What is it you are so upset about?

  34. DLA says:

    Changed my my name cause did not want A’s name hurt by my comments.

  35. Tam5115 says:

    I think Bethenny is going to be just fine. She’s charmingly honest and has such sharp wit. When I saw the preview of her peeing in a bucket in her wedding gown… at first I thought it was crass, but then I appreciated the B humor and her dedication to being real. What one of us hasn’t been in a situation where we have done something embarrassing? B is going to show us that because she’s dedicated to being honest. Kudos to her, I say.

    • DLA says:

      I love B because she will be real.

      Did not like the pee pee shots. But thanks to someone on this site can not be so full of my own crap.

  36. Jacqueline A says:

    The article is ridiculous and makes me think the initials stand for her 4 publisists. They would be the only ones who would see this way and have a vested interested in writing it!

  37. Margo Channing says:

    I LOVE BETHENNY AND HER NEW SHOW AND SHE NEVER WAIVERS IN WHAT SHE SAYS OR BELIEVES IN! DAMMIT!

    The Reunion was hilarious! Luman about to have a stroke because no one cared that she was there. Loved Ramonas straight up double-edged diss on Luman (one shoulder purple dress) and Kelly the freaking speedbump ‘are you going to apologize for calling me stupid’….uhm no Kelly, NOPE, go mainline some Dummy Bears and we will get back to you. Beth handled Jill perfectly and in “REAL TIME” the thing that mad JiZ dissolve into tears was when Bet came out and said, basically, MY HUSBAND DOES NOT LIKE YOU…JiZ was destroyed by that because it was straight to the heart truth. To tell JiZ that someone does not like her? Is like saying her Saks Diamond card has been revoked, or that in the recession Bawwby lost all his dough and now you have to live in a box with Teresa(NJ)TROLLwoman. Alex, nicely done, and JiZ even helped you drive the point home that she talks over what she does not want to hear. ‘Just because you say it doesn’t make it true!!’ What? Are you in 3rd grade now? Drinking Dummy-ade with you new bestie?

    BGM I was not skeptical, I was worried. But I love the show because Bet is not a character, she says everything we want to, and can only do it here! LOL! Me and Bravo buddies had an image of Jill in the “Helen” mode from “Death Becomes Her” after Madelyn (Streep) steals her fiance and “ruins” her life, She (Goldie Hawn in fat suit) slams cans of frosting and hits the RR button on her VCR to watch actress Streep “die” over and over…we were hysterical with that image of JiZ slamming latkas and killing the remote while Ginger texts all of her followers!

    I LOVE BETHENNY!

    Thanks Lynn!

  38. DLA says:

    Lynn I think you are a gifted reporter and writer but when the hell are you going to change the name of this site?

    This wormman (yes I meant what I spelled) just sucks.

    Until I watched the ROTHNYHW’s I just did not get it.

    She (Jill Zarin) is using a sick (really really really (sorry can not say it enough) sick woman to defend her. When this really sick woman speaks nice to someone else. This bitch (aka as JZ) cuts her down.

    Just my op so

    I hate Boppy
    I hate people who hurt others
    I hate women who give blow jobs for money
    I hate people who are making money for being mean

    BRAVO—-CALL ME!!

    Just kiddingLynn. It was quite a while before I posted on this site. But girfriend “I LO
    YU”

  39. desertgal66 says:

    Great blog as always, Lynn!

    The Death by 1 000 Papercuts article: Meh. That writer is basing his/her conclusions on inaccurate information. If he/she can’t be bothered to do even the simplest research, then the result is pretty worthless. Unless you are Jill Zarin. She’d better cling to that-it’s probably the last positive press she’ll get.

    Beth’s new show: I liked it. I know some people were startled that she seemed rather shrewish towards Jason, and all I can say is give her time. That episode was shot right after she and Jason moved in together…and it’s a pretty big adjustment, when you’ve lived alone for many years, to move in with someone. Plus, she was pregnant-those hormones can make a woman pretty volatile. I’m not sure if she is wrong or right about doing this show, or about including Jason. I guess we’ll have to see how it all shakes out. I do think she and Jason seem to balance each other well.

  40. Small Town Mama says:

    OT
    A former Jill Fan – I love your list there were a few books on there I have sitting on my nightstand waiting to be read (Confessions of a Rebel Debutante!) and I put a hold at my library/ordered from paperback swap a few too.

    As for this whole forgiveness baloney, in what world does forgiveness equal friendship? Jill apologized, Bethenny accepted and has repeatedly said she wishes her all the best. Bethenny not wanting to resume the friendship has nothing to do with forgiving Jill. Jill needs to accept the friendship is over, move on and hopefully learn from her mistakes.

  41. Capiche says:

    Finally, FINALLY! I’ve caught up with the three blogs posted since yesterday. Yes, it took me 24 hours!

    Reunion: It was delish! I loved that B gave it to Jill. Just cut your crap woman! We can see through it. I think the most honest thing she said was “I’m a New York bitch!” I agree. But it’s not cute on you. And can we talk about the outfits for a bit: Who the hell dressed Jill?? She looked , er, cheap. The dress with the cutout shoulders (maybe to hide her pudgy arms) looked like something in the $10 store and that I used to wear to clubs back in the day! And those shoes! The color was nice. The style was nice. But not together and not on Jill! I almost choked to death when she awkwardly stomped off at the end of part 1. It was like clomp, clomp, clomp! Oy! And her accessories didn’t help! Not one bit.
    As for Luann, is it just me or did she wear a similar dress to the reunion last year. I don’t know. These purple one-shoulder numbers just start to blend together. And she wore those earring during the year. I remember. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, dah-ling, but you’re the one claiming countessness!
    Alex looked divine. I mean, I like her but her outfits are something else. But her dress, hair and makeup on the reunion finally scrubbed the image of the flesh-colored chain top on her TH from my memory. Thank God for small mercies.
    I think Bethenny looked good, her dress …meh.
    Kelly…no words, no words. Was she going for the bride of chucky look? Because then she rocked it.
    My girl Ramona was ok, nothing to talk about!

    I think the reunion has been discussed to death, so nothing new to add here except we now all know that Jill is a baldfaced liar. And this whole ‘you are not my fwend?” (spelled correctly) Like, who cares? Really?
    And as for Jill coming back next season, I don’t know. I thought sure because of all her drama, but then when she tried to sabotage Bethenny’s new show, I’m not so sure. And maybe that why she really got such an awful “edit” this year. I’m sure the producers for BGM and RHONYC are the same and can you imagine what they think about this New York Bitch affecting THEIR livelihood? We know they don’t care about the lives of these women and in their eyes, everyone is replaceable so I think Jill, by thinking she was clever and directing the shows to her liking, may have really crossed the line with the producers and Bravo.

    Also, I think I may know why the ladies on The View were hard on Bethenny. A couple months ago there was this rumor in the media industry that she was to be on a show similar to The View that is supposed to start on CBS in the fall. I don’t know how true that is, but I am sure those ladies heard about it and see her as competition. That could explain why they didn’t seem to like her comparison with the Hasselback bitch.

    • error 404 says:

      interesting theory about The View.

      it’s also interesting that Jill got “the edit” right after she tried to sabotage one of Bravo’s new shows. Hmm…

    • Margo Channing says:

      Capiche! Man I love the way you write…Lay it flat out, don’t check for a pulse! Alex, I think, is such a good woman friend to Bet, they are close in age and Alex has that mommy thing going on for the peeps she cares about. I love how she intuitivley(sp sorry) knows exactly how to talk to Bet. Alex will have that mommy affect on B that she so desires but may never realize it. Cannot wait for next ep. or whenever B shoots the kid out! I hope Alex and Simon are there!

  42. Hooked On Housewives says:

    Good morning. I enjoyed your description of an obviously dishonest review of BGM. I also enjoyed the show. There is a portion of your blog:

    “It was great to see Alex and Simon join the party but I was a little surprised when Bethenny said something in her interview to the tune of “and they’re normal?” What was that all about? It seems to me that all the Alex / Bethenny love was all filmed before this scene at the housewarming … it was just an odd remark for Bethenny to make, I thought.”

    I didn’t understand the tone that was coming from Bethenny either. Bethenny sounded alsmost as though she was making fun of Alex and Simon. I didn’t think it was right. It almost took me back to the days when she and Jillousy laughed about Silex. Didn’t care for that small portion of the show at all.

    As for Jillousy still trying to place blame and flame people out, Jillousy needs to buy a vowel and get a clue. That chuckie in the middle of Jillousy’s face is like the energizer bunny. It just keeps going and going and going.

    • shantygal says:

      I took the Silex comment from B to mean “I know, right? Whodathunk I’d end up liking them both so much after all the rotten things I said about them?”. It was more like a reflective comment on her own behavior.

  43. jenni says:

    Please help me with my silly little project. The more I look at it, the worse I think it is turning out…

  44. jenni says:

    Sooory, forgot link before, DOH!

    Please help me with my silly little project. The more I look at it, the worse I think it is turning out…

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  45. Olivia says:

    It is safe to assume that not everybody who watches this show is a fan of Bethenny. It is understandable. However, that 1000 Cut essay was clearly offbase in its portrayal of what went down this season.

    Jill would have faced the same wrath concerning her behavior no matter which one of the other castmates she had chosen to devour. It is her actions that were being held up for scrutiny and not for any misplaced reverence toward Bethenny. Bethenny just happened to be the one wearing the target on her back and it all stemmed from Jill’s uncontrolled jealousy. Using Bobby’s illness was just the handiest excuse she could lay claim to as the actual reason would have cast her in the role of the “green eyed bitch”.

    Jill’s “fans” will not rest until Bethenny offers Jill an apology and there is no amount of reasoning with them to expect change. These are the myopic morons who feed her ego and who celebrate her hideous need for attention.

    • error 404 says:

      I agree that had Jill attacked any other cast member, she’d not escape scrutiny, but I disagree that the level of vitriol would be the same.

      She went after the most popular woman AND her bff.

      The level of “..and the Jill-beast will eat their young” was shocking beyond belief.

      • Olivia says:

        Except that she is now aiming her poisoned arrow right at Alex. If memory serves, somewhere in Season 1 or 2 she was behind the article in Page 6 calling Simon a “lush”. She did not want Simon or Alex to continue on the show.

        At that time, the jury was out about the van Kampen’s and there was not much support one way or the other regarding the basis for what she said. Alex was not garnering that much of a fanbase so it was quietly forgotten.

        Now she has Alex squarely in her crosshairs, even accusing her of trying to “plant” unflattering articles where she stated that “5” different reporters asked her to comment. Alex has denied any involvement and said she had no idea of what Jill was talking about.

        Jill has it on for Alex.

        • error 404 says:

          Yes, but as an isolated event, it would play softer.

          The fact that she begs forgiveness for going after B, claiming temporary insanity, but does the same exact thing to Alex at the same time she’s begging forgiveness…. did her in more than anything.

          It took her from a real person, to a serial mean-girl who can’t control her lust for killing. Very poorly timed feud. Almost a cry for help.

        • Scorpiosue says:

          I want Jill to name the reporters and what it is. She can’t because it’s not true. I CANNOT stand when people pull that crap.

          • Anitabee says:

            Which is why Simon called her a liar in response to her twitter that Jill has proof.

            Simon knows they didn’t do anything so there is no “proof”.

        • kathy says:

          I think that Alex is a smart, honest ADULT. She can handle anything Ms Zarin throws her way.

  46. LynnNChicago says:

    http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/videos/jason-being-awesome

    Bethenny’s on WWHL after show…Andy asked B MY question…woohoo!!!

    • vilzvet says:

      I know, way cool! At least she admitted she left nothing unsaid! (Hey does Jill still have up the incorrect date for Monday’s show? She will be unsuccessful, not with all the incessant advertising Bravo does).

    • kats2 says:

      While there are many Lynn’s in Chi-Town, when I heard Andy say Lynn from Chicago, I knew it was from you!!!

    • Scorpiosue says:

      I figured it was you (I called it a couple blog entries ago 😉 ). :):):) I imagine that that pissed Jill off even more because come on, Andy has to know about your fabulous blog. Kudos to you!

      • shantygal says:

        Jill must have dioyed, just dioyed at that. The only thing that could have made the aftershow sweeter is if Alex had had an appearance. All three of J’s nemises at one place, at one time and no chance for her to reply? Spontaneous combustion!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I hate to wonder if your question being asked wasn’t a purpose dig at Jill on the behalf of everyone who has had to put up with her nonsense. I’m sure that Andy and his people would have heard of you. It seems a little too random for it to be chance.

      I would give anything to know how Jill reacted. I’m willing to be that Ginger isn’t the only Zarin that shits themselves in Egyptian linen sheets.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Bethenny is smart. I bet she knew Lynn from Chicago. I also noticed that she said we did not have to have a “I hate Jill Zarin” National Holiday.

      I thought that was a reference to Lynn’s blog too.

  47. Jennifer says:

    My message to Jill on her blog, which I am sure to be blocked for-
    ‘ U claim to not fight dirty so stop DM Lynn followers who are private citizens, harrassing private (ie not plp in TV) is actually incredibly dirty u stupid cow
    ( no offense meant to cows)

  48. vilzvet says:

    Finally watching her premiere, I was saving for a quiet morning…I’m already laughing at the “PRECIOUS wouldn’t have lived in your old apartment!” and Cookie being called by both of them (where did she end up going anyway?). And yeah Max is too cute for words! Hope Jason will not feel threatened, he shouldn’t….

    • vilzvet says:

      P.S. Hey I bet Kelly knows THIS Max too! LOLOLOL….she knows them all, right?

    • error 404 says:

      I was happy to see Cookie and Jason so “bonded”.

      Yes, I am one of those people who talk about dogs like they are children. lol

      I wouldn’t get too big a head if I was J though. Cookie’s choices were:
      A. go with B to the office where there is a thoughtless lack of cushy soft furniture
      or
      B. go with J back to the bedroom and the warm recently slept in 600 thread count sheeted bed.

      Cookie, like most reality TV stars, is nothing if not self-serving!

  49. error 404 says:

    Did Countless Lulu fall thru the cracks this season? No one seems to care.

    I did come across a tid-bit yesterday, considered posting it here, then decided not to as it said NOTHING.

    I’m feeling more charitable today, so I’ll toss the fallen royal a bone:

    basically she said:

    1. she wouldn’t not consider a 2nd marriage.

    I know, what can one do with such “news”?

    2. she thinks B’s new show is fun.

    tit-for-tat. B said on WWHL that Lulu’s single was fun. They are frienemies again I guess.

    3. she feels bad for Sonja. The popo are notorious for cracking down on stop sign roller in SH.

    Yes, the la Contessa is old school. You support your friends no matter what. Good for her.

    3.

    • Capiche says:

      Haha! “fallen royal!” I was thinking the same thing. I don’t really care for Luann – one way or the other. Even on this blog we have people who express love for Bethenny, Ramona, Alex, Sonja and even *shudder* Jill…but does anyone express undying affection for Luann? She comes off as too phony! She doesn’t connect with the audience. The show can go on without her. She’s just…annoying.

      Oh, and countess is not a title of royalty, if I remember correctly. It is nobility. You know, something the royals tossed to the rich enough merchants who funded their extravagant lifestyles so they could feel just as entitled! I wonder if Luann knows that?

    • katiecoo says:

      Thank you! ::curtsy:::

    • shantygal says:

      I still think she’d be fun to party with. I bet she really lets loose. While JZ wants attention 24/7, Lulu only wants it for her (shudder) song and real charity events. I love her borish awfulness. She’s always good for a laugh, either at her own expense or when she’s “correcting” someone.

      • anniieee says:

        I think she was always looking for a “hook-up” …remember the story last summer where LuMan was at a party in the Hamptons–Drunk and Disorderly–knocked over band equimpment and grabbed some guys privates—wife gets pissed (she is also pregnant) and leaves? Yeah she would be fun to party with–I would love to sit back and watch–because she so holds herself up as the righteous one–who does everything right. lol

        • ImToula says:

          There is no reason for Luann to feel sorry for Sonja. She’s the one making an ass of herself. Sonja dosen’t go around making sick moose noises and calls it singing! HA!!

  50. desertgal66 says:

    Jill’s newest excuse seem to be “I’m justified because of all the things “they”
    did to me off camera. Kelly is justified because of all the things “they” did to her off camera.”

    I think that’s funny, because, at the reunion, BRA all brought up things Jill did off camera, and Jill “couldn’t remember” any of them.

    That is one selective memory.

  51. Olivia says:

    Lu Ann and Sonja are old friends and according to a recent report, Sonja admits that her new “bff” on the series is Lu Ann. It was Lu Ann who introduced Kelly and Jill to her on her first appearance in the series. This is the one where Sonja revealed that she knew Ramona from years before and how Ramona “stole” the dress from her at a fashion show.

    Another tidbit is that Lu Ann was the 4th wife of “the Count” and married him after a 3 week courtship where they met on a ski slope. It was also rumored that they had had an “open marriage” for years with each living on different continents. So apparently Ramona was not revealing anything that had not been known prior to the divorce when she laid into Jill on that Labor Day phone call.

  52. error 404 says:

    Who else feel relieved!

    I was getting really scared that Kiki was insane. Like, off the charts, she has her mother’s skeleton int he root cellar, rant-rant-rant insane.

    But thankfully, she explains it all in part 2 of the reunion.

    She’s not crazy and delusional…. we all just thought that because Ramona was drunk.

    Phew! What a relief!

    Maybe Bravo will send her and her 2 kids to St Johns on all expenses paid vacation. I hear they have an amusement park there called “Scary Island”

    • Small Town Mama says:

      Yes of course! Because when Ramona drinks the camera gets beer goggles.

      • desertgal66 says:

        I wish Ramona wouldn’t drink so much. I have to drive my kids to school, and it’s hard when the car is spinning around me.

        • ImToula says:

          All you guys are Creeppyyy…Honestly….you all need to stop bullying me, like that’s not cool. Then you need to get like some awsome, natural jelly beans to decorate with and ride the horse in my livingroom, listening to the number one tune Money can’t buy you sanity, I mean class.

  53. Jennifer Samples
    Hey everyone! I noticed that they’re are more positive reviews of Jill’s book up. That’s great! So if you’ve read the book go and write a review! Doesn’t have to be fancy, just your honest thoughts! Let’s keep it going for Jill!
    6 hours ago · Flag

    Hmmm…J. Samples?

  54. Olivia says:

    Kelly just bores me to death. Her tweets and her blog are loaded with the most inane comments and her excuses rival a 9 year old caught with a hand in the cookie jar.

    Even had she not exploded on the island, she was totally without interest as far as her filmed segments were concerned. Flitting through the streets of NYC and “interviewing” total strangers without any functional reason, or gliding in and out of events with dresses barely covering her “chuckie” while screaming out of how “real and genuine” she is, were tedious.

    A 42 year old woman constantly pushing her hair out of her face is not interesting.

    • error 404 says:

      I wish I could say she bores me to death, but the need to reach thru my screen and slab her is just too great to pull off a pretense of indifference.

      To quote Denise Fallon: “She get’s my goat. She picks up my goat and puts it over here.”

      • anniieee says:

        oh god me too… I just want to knock her into next Tuesday every time she opens her mouth. Stupid is as stupid does.

        • ImToula says:

          Ok you guys, bullying is not cool 4 against 1 is not cool. I hate you all becasue you went to the media and threatend my children. Like that is not awsome at all. My hair has been washed with the most awsome shampoo in the world. Watch me wash my hair on my latest YouTube video.

          • Adgirl says:

            Yoo ar like totaly crakin me up gurlfrend!!

            Fist Bump!

            (Dont make no joke abot me and ‘crakin up’ neethur or I will go all kabuki on yalls azz.)

            • vilzvet says:

              The constant fidgeting during the reunion was insane! Does she not know how to sit quietly?? Touching hair (huge no-no that you learn when you’re a YOUNG woman) to fussing with her bracelet…so GD annoying. I really truly don’t think I can watch if she comes back next year…I just don’t want to see her or listen to her.

            • ImToula says:

              I can’t help it. She’s a sitting duck begging for it. And I love it! LOL

          • Margo Channing says:

            And she uses the same perfume on her hair that JiZ uses to “clean” dog poop! Freakin’ nasty frosted FLAKE!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She never fit in from day one! She signed up to be on the show and was pissed she had to talk to the housewives when she was with her horsies….. I tried to get into her but there was never anything of interest and has no social skills so she could not interact with the other women – square Kelly in a round world!

      • ImToula says:

        I have always been genuine. Right from the start. I am true and authentic. I recently had a breakthrough. Remember PR 101 and 102. Al Sharpton and satchel of gold are genuine and real, honestly…..Like you know I’m a tastemaker …..What are you doing? Like I’m also an author, I’m like putting together this awesome book on underwear, honestly like no one ever wrote about underwear like I am. And like honestly, if you’re looking to not be bullied, cause really 4 against 1 is not cool, buy my underwear book and I won’t bully you. Hi Twitterpants!!

  55. kats2 says:

    If Luann was smart and asked back next season she should spend more time with Sonja. Perhaps it’s wishful thinking but it looked like Luann was trying to sit as far away from Kelly as she could on the reunion.

    It also looks like Luann is going to get off easy, when IMO she quite frankly needs to be called out for her shit.

    Also for any Bravo show fans, Luann niece is on the new art show that SJP produced (you remember Luann has nieces that are twins well the prettier one (sorry it’s true) is on this new Bravo Art show and she actually has some talent. Her father (they showed a picture on the show) is Luann’s brother and you can see how much they look alike. Luann is just the female version of her brother.

    • error 404 says:

      No way! too funny! Was she the one who was called “proud pussy” by the grey haired lady?

      back to Lulu: considering that Jill is starring in her own version of King Lear, and that Kiki is a danger to society, picking on Lulu would seem petty and immaterial.

      It’s like if you had Jack the Ripper, the Boston Strangler and Wynona Ryder sitting on a couch, would you really spend the time to rip into Wynona for shoplifting?

      • anniieee says:

        I loved B’s comment about the couches… “we three had each other’s backs–while those three looked and acted like they had never met”… I am paraphrasing..

        • ImToula says:

          @404
          As far as I’m concerned Luann has commited crimes against the humanities. She deserves to be gagged.

  56. Jason Hoppy's Job (at least as of 2008) says:

    Posted this on an earlier blog, but it belongs here:

    Found this article from 2008. Sorry if it has been posted before. Quite the basketball player in his time.

    According to the article below, re: his job “Currently a resident of New York City, Hoppy has been employed for the past nine years plus as a specialty sales representative with Abbot Laboratories”

    http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/standard-speaker-hazleton-pa/mi_8181/is_20080720/hoppy-inducted-hazleton-sports-hall/ai_n52087061/

  57. kats2 says:

    Lynn Abbott is Headquarters is in Chicago, perhaps we’ll run into Jason at O’Hare at some point.

    9 years is a long time for a sales person to stay with one company, which means he must be pretty dam good at what he does and most likely makes some good money.

    • anniieee says:

      pharmaceutical sales is very lucrative… my sister did it for years and moved up very rapidly for a woman… ended up chief marketing officer for geriatric meds….and now lives on a biggg boat. me…. black sheep–schoolteacher.. Jason can go very far.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Yes! Abbott is huge in Chicago – Its campus is actually just outside of the city, it has one of the biggest count of employees of any company in Chicago, its campus actually has it’s very own zip code.

  58. Olivia says:

    Lu Ann is a two faced hypocrite and stirred the pot relentlessly on Jill’s behalf. It was she who kept inserting herself into the drama by approaching Bethenny and Alex to read them her personal “riot act” about their treatment of “poor Jill”. If anything, she kept the flames burning by enabling Jill in agreeing with everything she said or did because of her own dislike for Bethenny and Alex.

    Her presence during that open line phone call was pretty low. All she had to do was leave the room but she chose to remain close to Jill’s side, feeding off every word. Then she lurked along with Ramona right outside the living room where Jill and Bethenny were having a conversation in order to hear each and every syllable uttered when they both could have gone into the kitchen while this was going on.

    She butts in, interrupts, talks over, and makes comments followed by stupid snickers that shows her total lack of “class”. The constant use of “my luv” and those unnecessary double cheeked kisses drive me absolutely crazy. It merely highlights her condescending, pretentious, hypocritical, and insincere self. Those ridiculous foray into the inner city school to “mentor” those young girls was in such bad taste.
    The way she portrayed herself to those kids was laughable.

    • shantygal says:

      Exactly! Her awfulness is what makes her watchable, for me anyway. Other than her condescention, there’s not much else there. She’s reality show gold. The delusional, self aggrandizing dowager. A show about her and Sonja hitting the town is something I’d like to see.

    • anniieee says:

      Did you notice she was all Team Jill in the beginning..just like you said…. but right before scarey island and of course after–she began distancing herself. She saw the writing on the wall… even tho it was filmed way before we were all able to comment. It was a smart move on her part…we all quit complaining about her as the season wound down.

  59. Olivia says:

    Kelly and Lu Ann = Loon and Bufoon

  60. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    Morning Everyone, Lynn great blog as usual.
    Just wanted to say that I loved BGM it was indeed refreshing and funny.

    Also thanks to Katiecoo I still can’t get Jill making love to her grudge out of my mind. I wonder if she practices safe sex with her grudges?

    • katiecoo says:

      haha….happy to entertain, God knows my Friday night needed to produce something productive beyond me on my couch with my frozen yogurt, exhausted. 😀

  61. kats2 says:

    Lynn big thanks again for the blog and letting us have this forum. The comments on other forums out there about B’s marriage and her as a mom are really disturbing. There is no stress here, no real hate, just calling it like we see it with plenty of proof to back it up.

  62. TLM says:

    I am reposting this here because at the time I wrote it, the BGM blog had not yet started. Like Bethenny, I say things as I see them rather than how I would like them to be. I remain a great fan of hers, but the premiere was a bit of a letdown for me.

    First, the good stuff. People keep talking about how B has “softened,” this year, but I never saw her as NOT having a soft side. She is tough when necessary, but has always been a loving person and unafraid to show affection when she feels it. I never thought she was non-maternal as others did. I actually think Alex comes across as less maternal and lovey-dovey than Bethenny, and it’s harder for me to picture her as a Mom. When Alex talked to her kids in previous seasons, she sounded so stiff that it was awkward for me to watch at times. I never felt that way about Bethenny. No, she didn’t have kids, but you could see how she was with friends, the ex-boyfriend and with her pet.

    However, I did not anticipate her yelling at Jason as much as she does. In extra footage at the therapist’s, she said that she “always has a bat and ball ready to go,” and I agree. At times it seems she is just looking to pick a fight with him. It was hard to watch. I wish she would take to heart her remark that “just because you’re speaking louder doesn’t mean you’re right.” As B herself said, that will get exhausting quickly in a relationship, and I wonder if J will finally decide he’s tired of it. It seemed like it wasn’t a good sign that he had to remind her it was THEIR apartment, not just HER apartment. It is tough enough being in the shadow of someone famous without feeling like you don’t share your home equally.

    I really hope that we learn more about Jason in this series than that he is a “businessman.” (WTF does that even mean?) It’s not like we need to know the company where he works and his office number, but can we get more specific than “businessman”? So far I have read he’s in real estate, he sells medical devices, he’s in pharmaceutical sales, and he’s a personal trainer, with none of those things being substantiated. Can’t B set the record straight by just giving a general category of what type of work he does? It’s odd because the show isn’t just about her, it’s about the two of them and their life together. I do think it was obnoxious not to allow Jason to have a desk of his own when she has a large home office.

    I could *completely* understand her not wanting to host people in her apartment she didn’t know without Jason being there — I would feel the same way. However, I didn’t know why she was so freaked out about hosting the housewarming when she had to cook a full dinner on Scary Island for five, and was pregnant in high heels, and it didn’t seem bother her one bit. Someone else also pointed out the strange dig at Alex and Simon, and how B said they were, “…Normal??” with a question mark. I thought they became her dear friends after this season… so what was that about?

    The quick scene with her friend Lauren — the friend from Season 1 who said she always wanted to have sex with her husband, and now is pregnant — was very odd. It’s a shame they didn’t show more of this scene in the show – it’s in the Bravo extra videos. They picked out the weirdest part of the conversation for this brief scene, and left it at that.

    The scene at the end, which was a preview, chilled me a bit. Did we really need to see Bethenny peeing into a bucket in her wedding gown?? And why did she need to do it in the first place? She was at the Four Seasons, not in the woods. If it was too difficult to use the ladies’ room with the gown, she could have taken the dress off, handed it to her assistant, and put a robe on to quickly go. So what if it took her a few minutes? Like the ceremony wouldn’t wait for her? This scene is not only disgusting, but makes no sense to me. What if urine got on the dress, or ran down her leg? Did the assistant holding the bucket hand her toilet paper? WTF?? Why on earth was this necessary? Unless every single toilet at the Four Seasons was out of order, I just don’t get it. The pregnancy test scene in RHONYC did not bother me like it did others, but this was taking it a step too far for me. I did not need to see her squatting over a bucket with one assistant holding it and the other holding her dress. Nor am I really looking forward to the home-belly-waxing scenes. Let’s keep the focus more on her business and logistics of family life, and less on bodily functions and fluids, shall we?

    Finally, I am looking forward to the rest of the series and seeing how it is received, that is, if it continues to have the same ratings success as the premiere did. I think it wasn’t a huge surprise that there would be a lot of curiosity about the first episode. Plus, she was given an amazing time slot and lead-in from Bravo since her show immediately followed the much-anticipated fiery Reunion premiere.

    • Olivia says:

      I agree in that it makes me a little uncomfortable as well. I realize that these people come from a different place than most of us but peeing on camera is not what I wish to see.

      Ginger eating Jill’s boogers and crapping all over the furniture was totally unnecessary and stomach turning as well. Walking through the crap in Sonja’s garden was gross.

      I like Bethenny but let’s put a lid on some of the “shock” that seems to be Bravo’s idea of entertainment. All I can add is that no one forced Bethenny to provide us with this yucky scene. She agreed to it.

    • error 404 says:

      I don’t know how you went from “she’s always ready to spar” to “she picks on him”. Yes, her habit of jumping to the defense every time she’s challenged is an issue, but at least in last night’s show, he started each and every fight…. I want a big wedding, I want more kids, I want a party, I want my friends to stay over, I want a home office in addition to my real office, why are you eating that, I’m gonna tell you how to run your business and who you can and can’t hire, I’m gonna turn your own dog against you, blah blah blah… I would have thrown Hoppy and his never ending supply of opinions out after a week!

      But, and its a big but… I’m not B. Just because she broadcasts it doesn’t mean I have to judge it. I know lots of happy marriages that I would not be happy in. And thank god for it. It works for them. Mozel tov!

      • TLM says:

        I don’t think Jason’s discussing what they are going to do, or having an opinion, is “starting a fight.” He did not come across as combative to me at all, just was trying to discuss something. She immediately raises her voice and starts with sarcastic remarks. That, to me, is fighting. I unfortunately grew up in a house with a lot of yelling, and I suspect she did, too. It is not an easy habit to unlearn, but it can be done. If there is one thing she could do to make their relationship better, I think that is it. He was extremely gentle, even joking, about having a second child, and I don’t think it was at all reasonable to say Jason couldn’t have a desk at home when he always had one, but should be relegated to a box under the bed. Especially when she has a large home office.

  63. HD says:

    I enjoyed the first show of BGM? I am highly interested in how this show will pan out. Honestly, (I said this on another blog but where I have no clue-it was late last night)I am not too keen on having your first pregnancy and your new marriage play out on TV. I wish Bethanny and Jason the best of luck.

  64. TLM says:

    One other thing.. Desertgal66 pointed out that it’s stressful moving in together, but B and J had already been living together in her apartment before they moved to Tribeca.

    Does anyone know if they are renting, or own this place? It seems like a relatively small building with few occupants. I think she said there were just 2 tenants per floor or something.

    • Squirrels says:

      They call it the condo, so I’m guessing she bought it. Great time to nab real estate in NYC.

      • TLM says:

        Not necessarily … they referred to her rental as “Bethenny’s Condo” also. I guess they felt it would have sounded tacky to say Bethenny’s rental. LOL.

  65. kats2 says:

    I just watched part one of the reunion again and two things are clear to me.

    1. Jill has not changed at all and while on the surface someone might think it was mean of Bethenny to just not forgive Jill right then and there. The way Bethenny handled it was real and actually perfect (see my second point).

    2. Jill’s PR machine is all about Jill playing the Martyr and trying to make Bethenny look bad and Jill look good. Which is where this past season began and like Bethenny said at the reunion Jill went into this season wanting to slay Bethenny, ruin her career.

    IT’S NOT WORKING! TIME FOR PLAN “B”

  66. Squirrels says:

    Would be nice if a video clip could be produced of all the non-classy things she’s done.
    KAPOWWWWW

    • katiecoo says:

      I would love to see a video mashup of all the ways Jill Zarin slammed, bashed, gossiped about ALL SEASON LONG to be followed by one short scene–her words telling Bethenny she’s never gossiped about her and always been her biggest “cheerleader”. We could find nastigrams in EVERY episode this season…her primary “hobby” was bashing Bethenny at every turn. Now it’s Alex.

    • Jenni says:

      It would be a looonnnggg video clip!

    • Jenni says:

      lol, posted too fast, I am not sure there is enough storage space in the world…

  67. Olivia says:

    I like Bethenny and wish her every success in making her dreams come true. My only caution would be for her to closely examine her decisions regarding this “reality life” going forward since we have all seen so many marriages and relationships destroyed in the process as these “stars” become all too consumed with the “faux fame” that goes with it. (Are you reading this Jill?)

    Jason seems grounded, and he also seems comfortable at the moment, but having cameras around 24/7 that are intrusive to “real life” may pose a problem in the end. I hope Bethenny has enough fortitude to organize her priorities should this situation occur since her decisions affect other people in her life and they are not only about her.

    Embarking on a new marriage and parenthood is not an easy path but playing it out before the cameras can lead to issues they may have not envisioned.

  68. Squirrels says:

    A cute tweet from our favorite pup.

    “MyNJJETS @gingerzarin I Met Teresa IN PERSON – she is absolutely GORGEOUS. Think b4 u tweetRidiculous”<~was she wearing a low hat?"

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Thank you, I was worried GingerZarin got squashed by all those people in Jill’s bed!

  69. katiecoo says:

    I totally *got* Bethenny’s almost claustrophobic response to having Jason’s friends stay over as guests. My father is the same way “the more the merrier!” but me, being kind of private and somewhat perfectionistic, having houseguests is not easy or relaxing for me. I stress about everything from having the right food/drink in the house to how clean my house is, etc. Unless it’s my immediate family, company always stresses me out but my father couldn’t be more opposite so doesn’t get the impact–to him it’s always a BONUS having more people under foot and he never worries about the details.

    Beyond that, Bethenny’s privacy has been invaded so much and she never knows who she can really trust w/ the press etc. As far as she knows Jason’s friends gf, a stranger to her, could be one of those “rummage thru the bathroom cabinets” person and run immediately to the press with some scoop about finding some kind of feminine douche product or whatever. Her life is open enough with at least some control but someone staying under your roof who you don’t know at all? To me, that’s high stress so I totally got it.

    • katiecoo says:

      To clarify, I live alone but when my Dad visits he seems to think my house becomes a Bed and Breakfast and invites all kinds of friends/family to my somewhat small townhouse as if it’s just the “family house” without asking me. He just doesn’t get it that no one else finds this the preference…God love him, he’s great fun and I could be the one totally screwed up in this situation but still, it’s alot of stress and kind of freaks me out.

      • Marie Laveau says:

        I’m the same way. I work a lot, and I live alone. My home is my sanctuary. Having a lot of alone down-time helps me to decompress and keeps me sane. Don’t get me wrong. I do like having small dinner parties or having 1 or 2 people over from time-time-time. But those things are planned and handled by me well in advance (so, I’m not so stressed). Also, when you’re raised to be a good hostess, you want to make sure you have everything a guest may need, and you want to make sure your house is spic and span and well-organized. That takes work.

        Like you, my Dad is the complete opposite. Both he and my Mother — God love ’em — are also big believers in showing up unannounced. I HATE that! I think it is so inconsiderate and disrespectful, which is why I never do it.

        So, I get Bethenny’s attitude about her home; however, she’s doing the right thing by compromising with Jason. Compromise is what a good relationship is all about.

  70. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    I think the comment B made about Silex was filmed before they truly became better friends.

    • shantygal says:

      I don’t think so. They were bonding on the boat trip (November) and B said to Jill at either their lunch or Ramona’s ceremony, that the two people that have been there for her were ones she never thought would be, Alex & Ramona. That would have been in Dec. or early Jan. Bethenny’s comment on BGM was clearly taped later than that because she is so much heavier.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly was part of the Brooklyn fashion show prep – Alex had her there for her opinions. So their getting to really know each other started before Ramona’s trip, continued at Alex’s apartment over lunch – we maybe be victims of having too much drama thrown at us and we didn’t see the moments where real people really connect.

  71. desertgal66 says:

    TLM says:
    One other thing.. Desertgal66 pointed out that it’s stressful moving in together, but B and J had already been living together in her apartment before they moved to Tribeca.

    Okay, but, still, whether in Bethenny’s old apartment or the new place in Tribeca, they were still in the beginning stages of living together.

    Olivia says:
    Her presence during that open line phone call was pretty low. All she had to do was leave the room but she chose to remain close to Jill’s side, feeding off every word.

    And it was the SECOND time LuAnn had done that – remember, she listened in silently when Jill called Ramona from LuAnn’s house over Labor Day weekend. You know, when Ramona make the comments about LuAnn having an open marriage.

    • Squirrels says:

      Yep, the Ramona call was a classic. Take a bite outta that
      apple Lu !

      • Olivia says:

        I am no fan of Ramona but I have a hunch she was “telling it like it is” during that call. We can assume that Ramona had yet to hit the bottle as it appeared to be a call made during breakfast so it is probably safe to say she was sober at that hour as she was defending Mario and the much sought after “apology” for the “Countless” remark.

        The fact that Mario had called the day before and held out an olive branch of sorts by asking Lu Ann to the Labor Day party wasn’t enough to satisfy those two shrews. He left a voicemail which apparently was not enough “penance” to pay for referring to Lu Ann in this fashion.

        Boo hoo.

        • Squirrels says:

          Jill immediately went into – “bring it on” mode when she heard Mario’s msg. LuAnn didn’t even get a change to voice her own opinion. Jill set the tone for LuAnn’s entire season.

    • shantygal says:

      Really though, shouldn’t the onus be on Jill to excuse herself while taking a phone call or let it go to voice mail? If you’re engaged in an in person conversation with someone, do you answer your phone, on speaker? Who does that? It was Jill’s diss to both Ramona AND the countess.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The Countless is addicted to gossip!

  72. jillpinchesloaves says:

    Jill Zarin writes her own fake book reviews on Amazon, attacks reviews written by others on Amazon who find her silly book less than desirable, writes her own responses (under guise of pseudonym) to the most recent Advocate article in which she uses the incredulous anaology that her recent attacks calling her out, deservedly so, as the ‘mean girl’ that she is, in the press, are similar to the trials and tribulations of the gay community who are unfairly attacked for their sexuality. How Jill can waste such an opportunity to advocate for gay rights only to use the entire column space to whine and cry about how unliked she is…is yet another example of how far-off-kilter Jill Zarin really is.

    Jill Zarin cried and whimpered and threatened to walk off the ‘Real Housewives of New York’ post-show while her hair became increasingly wild and strewn and the price label visibly revealed its sticky adhesive aftermath residual on the bottom soles of her wicked-witch-shoes (True Dat!) The clodhoppers reminded me of shoes worn by (multi-tasking) square-dancing PTA members when I was a young child.
    As she crossed her thick arms defiantly across her chest, horse-face-whinnying for proof of slurs she’s hailed so atrociously, tears streaked down her thickly made-up face leaving her eyes even more visibly vacant, narrowing and searching as her beady-crossers did their customary looking above or to the sides…as she never EVER looks to whom she is speaking directly en-face. No doubt an innate quality she lost as her loud, bellowing mother screamed all throughout Jill’s babyhood, “I’M NOT HAPPY.” The statement by Gloria is sadly and wretchedly emblazoned in our psyche’s forever. Poor Gloria and might I add, GOOD GRIEF!
    Jill Zarin. FAIL. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Fruit Loops, yes.
    Jill’s husband’s Zarin fabrics dot com site is so antiquated and severely malnourished that even without visiting the brick and mortar I could visibly feel how crickety and geezer like the place is…it just oozes from the cyber world like a really, REALLY bad horror show.
    Those pics of Jill Zarin trying so desperately hard to be ‘hot’ in her Team Jill t-shirts ushered forth a hearty laugh from me. Hmmm, three floors of cobweb-filled fabrics and the mix of $49 tshirts—yes, what a cohesive product mix. Flows so jarringly well. The complete feel of Twilight Zone. And that lone, SINGULAR, white tattered leather chair as being representative of the ‘furniture line’ of ALL that Zarin Fabrics has to offer… REALLY? What?
    And no updates since 2008 on advertisements placed in trade mags?
    Well, now wait just a moment. Someone has terribly dropped the ball for marketing Zarin Fabrics. It looks just like a death but someone has forgotten to close the casket. For shame!
    All this while Jill confides in yet another ploy for publicity that yes she’s got homemade FILMED nasties locked up somewhere safe. Hmmm, she’s a real sexy broad what with her own stated promise to Bobby that anytime he asks to be ‘serviced,’ she will get down on her creaky old knees and give it the old tonsil-tickle. Let’s just pray that Bobby doesn’t have to reciprocate.

    • Jillousyness says:

      omg! ROFLMAO – over and over again! Touche’, well done.

    • Hey guys, I just have to say one thing bc there has been so much talk about Jill’s shoes and the “price tag at the bottom”.
      Those shoes are Louboutins which do not come with price tags on the sole. The soles are red and once you wear them for a day, especially on NYC sidewalks, the red scratches off and that’s why the bottom looks white like that.

      (This comment was in no way meant to defend Jill Zarin, but rather her shoes.)

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Loubou’s purchased from ‘secondary markets’ will bear a price tag.

        • Jen says:

          Not from personal experience (I wish!) but I have heard/read celebrities say that the soles are very slick on LB and need to be scruffed up to be safe. I think Oprah said something like if you see me in red soles you know I’m only wearing them in the studio chair… out and about I have them scruffed up. But I did think… did she get them at TJMaxx? Looks like their tag!

      • Jillousyness says:

        I’m certainly no expert on these expensive designer shoes but I’ve heard that there are price tags/stickers on these shoes IF they are bought at a discount retailer. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong and that’s totally fine.

        • You may be right about that, but these shoes are from the new collection, so I doubt they would be available at discount stores yet.
          I own the same pair (in purple not green – not that you guys will think that makes it any better LOL) and I know what the soles look like after a day of wearing them.

          Also, I really don’t think Jill would be careless enough to forget about a price tag. She’s too concerned about looking rich. I picture her more as the type of person that would paint the soles of regular shoes red and try to pass them off as Louboutins.

          • Jillousyness says:

            Lol, you guys are cracking me up this morning! Paint the bottoms of regular shoes red. Hysterical!

          • jillpinchesloaves says:

            Love this! I’m going out right now for some red paint and I’m going to tat up my Converse High Tops!
            Stylin’!

          • Snarkapalooza says:

            Upon rewatching, I believe what looks like a price sticker is actually one of those adhesive non-skid pad thingies you can attach to slippery soles. I was wondering how she kept from falling flat on her face when she shimmied off the set in that SIZE 1 dress and 5″ heels. Now I know.

        • Squirrels says:

          The interesting thing is the “scuff mark” is a perfect rectangle. hmmm

      • emt2 says:

        I think that most of what the women wear, including accessories, bags and shoes, are borrowed. I’m sure that she borrowed them from a stylist. The black Hermes bag that we’ve seen Bethenny and Jill carry is borrowed, for example. And both Kelly and Luann and Jill wore that brown fur vest.

        You will see the price tag on shoes worn by a lot of celebrities if you look closely.

        Did you notice that Jill and Luann often wear the same statement accessories? The outfit Luann wore on the reunion, purple one shoulder dress and those brass big earrings, is exactly like the outfit Luann wore either at the Cocktails and Couture party at Sonja’s or the Ungaro event. Jill wore the same necklace and brassy earrings as Luann.

        • jb8 says:

          Ramona wears the same necklace in many episodes, presumably from her own line of jewelry…

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Carrie Bradshaw where are you when we need you????

    • shantygal says:

      JPL – you are a delightfully talented, descriptive writer. You captured the “essence” of Zarin Fabrics perfectly. I went to the site out of curiosity and also because I am a seamstress and do upholstery as a hobby (see, even I GOT A HOBBY). There’s nothing there that you can’t find at any other discount fabric store at the same or lower prices.

      I work in the advertising industry and thought the exact same thing, man do they need a new angency. I might pitch for their business, LOL. Nah, probably wouldn’t get paid on time, or ever.

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Oh snap! Just confirmed that none other than Jill Zarin is listed as Zarin Fabrics MARKETING DIRECTOR!
        FAIL!
        LMAO!
        Jill Zarin- Director of Marketing

        • jillpinchesloaves says:

          And you know, it’s really weird. To be so high-profile and to have such a raised level of visibility while the RHONY aired and then to completely, miserably fail at a website that she hawks her gross overpriced tshirts on…is such an undoing.
          Team Zarin dropped the ball hugely and irrevocably.

          It’s like inviting the President of the United States to your house for the holidays but, oops, you forgot to tell anyone you’re a hoarder.

        • shantygal says:

          Explains everything! Go figger.

    • katiecoo says:

      Wow….that was one great monologue (do you blog?). Brava and Bravo! 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Did she ever thank Silex for purchasing on camera from the store when they did their remodel????

  73. Olivia says:

    Someone upthread mentioned the Osbornes for having done a reality show and stayed together as an example.

    The big difference is that they were well acquainted with the limelight and were accustomed to being followed around by reporters so it is safe to assume they knew their way around production.

    However, it has come out that both Kelly and Jack suffered from being on a reality show as their lives were being chronicled for all the world to see. Their teenaged years became magnified and discussed and they slid into the drug scene due in part to the pressure. Kelly was always worrying about her weight and it was an open topic in many magazines.

    Ozzie has admitted that he was still drinking and doing drugs even though they were pushing the meme that he was recovered. It took that near death experience from the fall off the ATV to get him to turn himself around and get sober. So again, we were watching a “reality show” that was not anywhere near real when the star and his kids were actually imbibing drugs while being portrayed as just another “normal family” albeit the fame.

    It could just as easily destroyed them but it turned out better than anticipated as they all have seemed to come to terms with their demons.

  74. pfinfl says:

    Lynn…anyone who watched the part with Bethenny at Ramona’s and on the street crying should have noticed she was not wearing the same outfit. I actually noticed she was wearing the same outfit she wore at Ramona’s at the Pepperidge FarmMobile where she was handing out sample sandwiches and got to talk with Alex. How can someone (this writer you referred to) not notice that ????? Because they didn’t watch it. They are taking notes from Jill because she is trying to fix her popularity!

    One more time Jill…..Fans and viewers ARE NOT DUMB!!!!!! We see right through your tricks. Just stop and go away. Live your life. You have a great family. You don’t have to have a camera in front of you to continue to live your life. You are messing with your livlihood. If you don’t stop, you will lose more than you have already. (Not a threat but just know that you are ruining your reputation and anyone involved with you at this point). Quit digging the hole deeper and deeper,just apologize and step back gracefully.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      At Ramona’s she had on Jeans. At Jill’s (phone call with LuAnn) she was in business attire – those are two seperate times B tried to make up with Jill.

  75. lillybee says:

    Does anyone know how many episodes there are of BGM.

  76. desertgal66 says:

    Well, the other thing that bothered me about the 1000 Papercuts article is that the writer suggested that what should have happened on the reunion show was that after Jill apologized and Bethenny accepted her apology, that should have been the end of it.

    That’s not how reality shows work. You can’t have a five minute reunion show of “I’m sorry” followed by “I accept that” followed by a “Thanks for watching!”. Bethenny had the right to explain her point of view, and the other ladies who had to deal with the fallout from Jill’s behavior towards Bethenny had the right to address the issue, as well.

  77. Olivia says:

    What is Jill actually fighting for at this period of time? Most of the audience has seen her for what she really is and those videos will live forever in cyberspace in case anyone has a reason to review them. It is what it is.

    What does she hope to gain back other than a reputation for being one of the biggest bitches to ever set foot on tv? Does she think that a rehabilitation of her tarnished image is going to get her a gig alongside Regis or Anderson Cooper? Does she believe she will be eternally sought after for photo sessions in People or Entertainment Weekly? Is she under the delusion that she will be sought out for guest star status on the View or Rachel Ray?

    She has nothing to offer beyond her appearance on this show. Can’t sing, dance, act, play an instrument, write, paint, or do card tricks. Her entire schtick is her. What can she sell beyond that dubious distinction? She is not even “D List” material as the woman does not even possess a modicum of humor let alone any self awareness.

    If she would just shup up and go away it would serve her better in the end. But as any well paid and discernible PR agent will tell her, fighting back and forth with fans and the press is not going to gain any respect. The deck is stacked and she needs to accept it.

    • error 404 says:

      She’s going down with a fight. That’s just her character.

      As a D-list celeb, she’ll pop up here and there when people ask her her opinion of other reality tv star’s scandals. If Countless Lulu is an expert on the British Royal family, Jill will certainly be an expert once Omarosa or Spencer or Jon Gosselin get arrested… which you know they will!

      Speaking of “d-list”, do you remember when she just showed up on “my life on the d list”. Kathy was pissed. Or so she acted.

      • Olivia says:

        Didn’t she wander into the scene where Kathy was shopping with Paris Hilton?

        Since they both work for Bravo it was probably a set up since Kathy had no real reaction to her other than to acknowledge her presence in the store.

      • Scorpiosue says:

        I CANNOT wait to see what Kathy Griffin has to say about the RHONY since she’ll be on WWHL on Thursday. See Jill it’s easy to get the date of a show right. Soooo curious.

        • kokuanani says:

          Jill will probably tell everyone that the date of the Kathy Griffith WWHL is November 2013.

  78. Char212 says:

    I’ve read a lot of comments regarding Bethanny making the comment on her show about Alex and Simon being “normal” and people thinking it was a “snark” on B’s part but I don’t think that at all. Compared to Jill, Kelly, & LuAnn they are normal people. They are more like you and I, raising a family and going about their every day lives. I think what B meant was that it was a relief to being around normal people who she can laugh with and have fun together and not have to be around people who think they are all that and thinks they are above everyone else. Of course we all know that Kelly is anything BUT normal.

    • Olivia says:

      It is difficult to equate the word “normal” with those who are willing to expose their lives on reality tv whether it be for the fame or the money. In the beginning there was much consternation regarding the van Kampen’s involvement with this series. They made few bones about wanting to get invited to “social events” and were seen perusing the pages of a newspaper looking to see if they had been mentioned. They were also filmed rushing off to the opening of the Met season and feeling let down because they arrived in time for the curtain but were unable to “make connections” beforehand because of the traffic.

      They were considered “climbers” which led to Bethenny observing that they would “crawl through an airvent” in their desire to rub elbows with the doers and shakers of NYC. Simon’s interest in fashion was kind of far out for the “normal” audience to swallow and though he may have proven more endearing as the series plowed on, it was difficult to accept their lifestyle as being “normal”.

      “Normal” is not attending the Saks event, the Girls Night Out dinner, the “red leather pants”, or the shopping trips where he chooses his wife’s wardrobe. I get where Bethenny is coming from.

      But I still like them.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        FWIW, Silex have publicly said that Simon was invited to both the Saks and ‘Girls Night Out’ events and that the host in both cases (Jill) knew they both were coming. According to Silex, Simon didn’t just crash the events, the host expected him to attend along with Alex.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      I agree Char212. I see Alex and Simon as people that she can be normal around. She can joke with them and it not taken literally (attention Kelly). She doesn’t have to watch what she says with them because they are REAL friends. I think Bethenny is the same with Sonja (I loved that Bethenny said that Sonja is exactly what the RHONY needed). They can joke and it’s taken as a joke.

  79. Jen says:

    Did you guys see this B interview posted around midnight by Delurking? It’s really a great interview from June 2009. Worth the time.

    http://obsessedtv.com/2009/06/samantha-ettus-interviews-entrepreneur-and-tv-star-bethenny-frankel

    • Jillousyness says:

      Yes – it was great. Bethenny was so natural and honest in the interview. She is so quick witted! It was fun to see her be herself and laugh.

    • Thanks for that link. B’s interview was great. Did anyone else watch the interview with Kelly?
      It wasn’t as funny as I though it would be, it really dragged on and I’m embarrassed to admit that I actually listened to her speak for 20 straight minutes. There were a few good moments though.
      For example, she answers questions such as “So how did you split from you husband?” by rambling on for 15 minutes about books she’s “written” (I hear they are mostly picture books) and the interviews says “Ok… but what I originally asked was how you split with your husband.” Lol.

      She also explains the “I’m up here, you’re down here” confrontation with Bethanny by going on and on about how Bethanny looked like she was from Dynasty because she had a black headband and white face (again with the white face comments – i really wonder what pale skinned person abused her in 1979) and then goes off on a tangent about her driver having cancer and something about her children and it was raining that day and she was in a bad relationship at the time… it’s really hard to follow her train of though. Anyway, the conclusion is that -according to Kelly- the entire reason for the feud between her and B is because she refused to acknowledge that B had been on reality tv before Housewives and B can’t get over the fact that Kelly didn’t know who she was. Ok….
      I find it interesting that she mentioned being in a bad relationship at the time that this scene was filmed, because it was directly after the confrontation that she went to have a date with Max. So basically Kelly just admitted that she was in a relationship at the time the date with Max took place. Interesting. Especially coming from someone who was so horrified by Ramona’s unforgivable indiscretion on the Hooters boat.
      She also explains her assault on her boyfriend, who I’m now assuming is the same boyfriend she had at the time she dated Max, by explaining how it was all his fault because he was broken and she couldn’t fix him. Apparently Kelly believes the way you fix things is to beat them with a hard object. I would hate to see how she changes a light bulb.
      Kelly also reeeeeally loves to talk about the good things other people say about her. Mind you, I don’t know that I’ve ever heard anything good said about her. But she is constantly telling these little stories about these people who tell her how beautiful she is, and how smart she is, and how crazy the other housewives are, and how they feel bad for her since she is the only normal housewife.
      One has to wonder if all of these people and their nice comments only exist inside Kelly’s own head.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I saw the Kelly interview right after we had been treated to her perfomance on the island. She probably performed better because it was one on one – but she did go off track on questions like her college days and marriage. But she was personable, lucid and didn’t flip out.

      • anniieee says:

        The interview with Kelly put me off food for a week. I really hate her…She was the mean girl in the cafeteria in HS… stupid..insipid..all the boys wanted her…she wanted to be friends with you only IF it made her look good. Everyone did her homework…and then she hit adulthood…. Now she is a mental trainwreck.

      • kokuanani says:

        and then goes off on a tangent about her driver having cancer and something about her children and it was raining that day and she was in a bad relationship at the time… it’s really hard to follow her train of though.

        This is probably a more coherent and “follow-able” summary of Kelly than the words actually coming out of her mouth.

      • Delurking says:

        ooops
        Just posted the link to that upthread. Should scrolled
        first.
        Love your recap!

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      IF SHE DOESN’T INSPIRE ONE TO “DO THE DAMN THING” I DON’T KNOW WHAT OR WHO CAN!!!

      Thank you so much for that post/link! I’ve been a big fan of B but hearing her story from HER lips adds more depth to how I see her as a whole person. WHAT A DRIVEN WOMAN!! Yes, this is the person and the story that needs to be shout from the mountain tops.

      Can you imagine how this may change the dynamics of sooo many women thinking they should settle for a man with mula in order to define themselves??? To each his own but for those women who really don’t want to settle or are coming from a “place of fear” can find encouragement, inspiration and determination in hearing Bethenny’s words.

      How AMAZING is this woman?

      I’ve bookmarked that site, became a twitter & FB fan of the Obsessed page just now. Tonight, I have some meditation and writing/journaling to do CUZ I’M SO PSYCHED RIGHT NOW! WOW!

    • jb8 says:

      If you scroll down on the right hand side of the page you will find an interview with Kooky Kelly also.

  80. Kelly Jelly Beansomeone says:

    I simply took Bethenny’s remark about Alex and Simon, “And they’re normal?” to imply in an affectionate and humorous way that Yes they are good and solid and steady friends, but um, hey get a load of how they dress and decorate, pose for artsy photos and utilize bondage accessories etc…
    I think she just put a question mark after “normal” because they are and they aren’t.

  81. shantygal says:

    Jill Zarin exhausts me, and for that, I hate her.

  82. Olivia says:

    Thank God that this is the last week of NY Housewives! When I can reference a 30 second appearance on an old Kathy Griffin show from last year than I know that my obession with this series has “jumped the shark”.

    My house needs cleaning, my garden needs weeding, my car needs washing, and my books are stacking up like bricks.

    My Fourth of July celebration will be based on my “freedom” from this show that has absolutely no value whatsoever. Good grief, I am a mess!!!

  83. Anitabee says:

    I finally got to see a closeup of Bethenny’s engagement ring on BGM. Does anyone know how big it is cuz it is a ROCK? It’s so huge. I know B has tiny fingers but still.

    I think Jason purposely got Bethenny a ring that big to protect her. I see a David and Goliath scenario. Kelly attacks and Bethenny takes off her wedding ring and slingshoots it right between the eyes. Goliath goes down giving Bethenny a chance to escape.

    • vilzvet says:

      Her ring is huge! I noticed that sometimes she just wears the band because both together are probably just unmanageable! Both pieces are gorgeous!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I thought she had the engagement ring on her right hand and that fabulous wedding band on her left hand at the reunion. I do the same thing (my rings aren’t as big, but similar styles) because on the same finger it gets too crowded.

  84. jillpinchesloaves says:

    Have a good day to all you fabulous posters. And remember, safety first: No running in the streets!

  85. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lynn
    Your comments are always thought provoking! I love how people go out and bring back facts (and hilarious fiction) and can post without rancor towards each other.

    The Reunion, Part 1: Started slow but then it has to be paced so that by the end of Part 3 we will be able to watch next season. I watch the the show twice (gotta love Bravo) first time for verbal exchanges and the second time for body language (which always shows when lies are being told). Everyone is coming out of the box as expected. Biggest OMG moments for me: LuAnn telling Alex to close her legs – WHY was LuAnn looking up Alex’s skirt???? and Ramona’s hot flash making her leave the couch! Can’t wait for Monday. Biggest LIGHTBULB moment: cast members conversation about not filming with certain other cast members – this has to be explored because now alot of Season 3 makes more sense to me. MY BIGGEST WISH: Someone (Alex? Bethenny?) will pull out these articles and e mails that Kelly and Jilly keep referring to regarding harrassment of their family members. BRING THE PROOF ladies!

    BGM? Gotta say Bethenny is going be bringing it real – warts and all. From the first season episode one of RHONY: I liked her, I got her and I saw an individual who had true star quality -Bravo apparently saw that too!

    WWHL: Bethnenny is best guest to date. She answered all questions (your’s would have been interesting if she had time to really think about the answer), kept it light and humorous! Best of all, she threw down the gauntlet about filming with Kelly as the reason not to return to RHONY. B can take on Jill any day of the week, but she doesn’t want to film with someone she feel is dangerous.

    Lynn, we appreciate the place you have created so that we can share our thoughts, speculations and most of all our hate Jill Zarin needs!

    • viki55 says:

      It was Kelly who made the “cross your legs” comment to Alex.

    • felony stupid says:

      Agreed!

      Although I think it was our resident rocket scientist Kelly who interrupted Alex to tell her to close her legs. Kelly – who wears sparkly t-shirts as dresses. Kelly – who wears dresses so low cut one can perform a pap smear going in from her lopsided cleavage. Her main concern was seeing Alex’s panties.

      Unicorns and rainbows and maybe a little bit of meth. Just sayin.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        lol thanks for the correction on who was looking up Alex’s dress – just couldn’t believe that was said on TV…….

  86. Jen says:

    Here’s an interview w/ Alex in Philadelphia this week. Audio only… you have to click the link on the right of the page.

    http://www.kyw1060.com/Real-Housewives-of-New-York-Star-Pens-Book-for-Par/7450960

    • Shadowsnomore says:

      Good interview for Alex. I do believe she is well spoken when not under stress or when she’s not being badgered by Jill.

  87. boston02127 says:

    KELLY BENSIMON WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR CHARITY TODAY?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hopefully nothing and that all charities are safe today!

    • shantygal says:

      Hi Boston, love you, hate the Sox.

      • Olivia says:

        You can hate me, hate my kids, hate my house, hate my hair color. BUT YOU CANNOT HATE MY BELOVED RED SOX!!!

      • Squirrels says:

        Lived on Park Drive. Used to watch Fenway on the roof of a quad decker next door. They had a better view of 3rd base.
        Grill, hot dogs, radio, live view. Oh those days. Rooftop tailgates.

        Ah, and I used to go to the sox/yankee spring day games when Fenway still had real bleachers. We’d lay out lathered in baby oil, and rag on the Yankees. … cause we could : )

      • boston02127 says:

        @shantygal~can’t hear you — la la la la la la la la la la

  88. katiecoo says:

    Just now wondering if on one of the breaks Alex talked to Simon and he “popped by” to hand deliver one of Zarin’s nastigrams to him about not filming with B in order to sabotage her show.

    I’ve said it a gazillion times and I”ll say it again. Narcissists are the Masters of Projection. Wanna know what they are up to? Watch them and listen to them.

    She (wrongly) accused Bethenny of “sabotage” when she showed up to Ramonas. The operative word was really “ambushed” but she kept saying “sabotaged”. Because that’s exactly what she was in the middle of with Bethenny–sabotaging her.

    The Reunion is on right now and Zarin just clomped off in her green clodhoppers…after saying “we had something really good”. And guess what? Zarin! You singled handedly DESTROYED IT. And there is a consequence.

    I’ve watched way too many court cases and the “remorse” always shows up at the most opportune moments, when they get caught and a consequence is finally imposed. It’s not “real” or “genuine”. It’s nothing more than convenient.

    And Bethenny has been around way too many blocks to not see right through that bullshit.

  89. lillybee says:

    I think Jill wanted that 3.5M diamond ring because it was bigger than Bethenny’s engagement. Jill is a very jealous person.

  90. Jen says:

    http://www.kyw1060.com/Real-Housewives-of-New-York-Star-Pens-Book-for-Par/7450960

    Two interesting comments:
    “Kelly Samardak posted that Kelly B had a “ghost answerer” named Natasha Zeller that whispered the trivia answers into Kelly B’s ear… THAT explains it!” But she does admit in the interview she cheated!

    “Jill’s husband Bobby is having an affair with Judy D’Amaco.
    Bobby was seen with Ms Judy over the past three months in the Hamptons and in diffrent resturants in the city. They were very cozy with each other.”

    Anyone know who Judy is?

  91. Adgirl says:

    So curious about why Jill hasn’t been weraing her wedding ring.

    Any thoughts……??

    • Adgirl says:

      Well I guess I got my answer from Jen. Her post crossed my question.

      If true, that is just sad. Even if I don’t like Jill’s behavior, I really hate it when there are affairs.

      • Jen says:

        I agree. That would be devastating no matter what your life was but on top of being the hatest HW in history… really sad.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Affairs happen when people are unhappy with their current partner – I am not condoning or recommending them – but have we ever seen Booby appear comfortable on camera, happy or saying he is proud of Jill? Do you think he would like the negative association with Zarin Fabrics because of her antics?

        • anutha hata says:

          Windy? What you say may be true, it probably is, but affairs also happen because some people are chronic serial cheaters.
          I have to say that because there are a lot of people who have been lied to and cheated on, and it is not their fault.
          In some cases, there may be a good reason, or even an excuse, but I really cannot think of many.
          If Robert Zarin was cheating, I wonder why Jill wouldn’t use that info. to solicit sympathy?
          Who knows, maybe Jill is the one starting the affair rumor.

  92. Jen says:

    Could it be this Bobby affair rumor is true? The woman is named now (see my post above).

    • kathy says:

      I have no idea if it’s true. I did notice the lack of wedding ring onJZ on the reunion. When you write a book saying don’t marry for love, marry for security (I’m paraphrasing), I would think maybe your husband would go.hmmm…! The Zarins haven’t been married that long and they have no children together. Stranger things have happened. I still wouldn’t wish it on anyone,even Jill.

  93. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wondering about: Why we keep blaming Jill’s behavior on PR people? Public relations is used to improve and maintain a positive image in the public eye – if the client does not listen to, agree with or follow the advice – who should you assign the failure to?

    Jill has likely been told to do the following: stay out of the public eye and make no comments – stay off shows, don’t do interviews, update blogs, facebooks, tweeter, issue statements/items to the press. Why are we giving her an excuse when she has so many of her own creation?

  94. kathy says:

    I wrote a Comment yesterday and posted on the June 6 post.I’m a brainiac. Anyway, it’s clear that JZ had alot to do with all the crazy Bethenny hate that is filling the empty caverns of KKB’s brain. That is why JZ is defending Kelly so much. She knows that Kelly was her dimwit dupe. I like that title! If Kelly decides to tell all when she gets out of rehab, not good for Jill! KKB and Bethenny were ok at the start of the season. Then the fateful email to Kelly, calling her a traitor for even speaking to B, nevermind Tweeting a friendly Tweet! Suddenly KKB is afraid of B. She has nightmares Bethenny is going to kill her.WTF!? Kelly seems to really want to stay on the show. With B getting her own show, Kelly must have felt she had to stay on Jill’s good side. Why else would Jill be Kelly’s protector? Even LuAnn can’t resist making fun of Kelly! Funny how she easily brought the island debacle up, isn’t it? You know KKB does not welcome that topic. LuAnn is really good at that passive aggressive stuff! Anybody remember Max the gigalo? lol! Sonja wasn’t on the show 5 min. before LuAnn told Kelly about Max and Sonja!

  95. Adgirl says:

    Look, I Hate Jill Zarin as much as the rest of you.
    I hate how I use to love her and then realized my judgement was sooo off.

    I hate how Jill stabs people then puts a little band-aid on the bleeding wound and cries for forgiveness. When her victim objects Jill stabs them again!

    Even though I Hate Jill Zarin, I hope the rumor about Bobby isn’t true.

    I don’t know why, but I am especially disgusted with infidelity as a means to end a marriage.
    Just break-up damnit! Why humiliate your soon to be ex-spouse and leave them with monumental insecurity problems?

    • Shadowsnomore says:

      I agree. It’s a painful thing to experience and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I know some may say she deserves it. Jill allegedly broke up Bobby’s first marriage. I know Karma’s a bitch but damn. If Bobby is cheating then he is worse than Jill in my book. Do it once is vile enough but be a habitual cheater is just beyond vile.

      • Char212 says:

        Well as good old Dr. Phil says…”If they do it with you, they’ll do it TOO you! So it could happen.

      • Hooked On Housewives says:

        Not to make light of a sad situation but wasn’t Jillousy the one tweeting from her bed the other night with a man laying/lying beside her. Doesn’t matter if he is her PR guy. He was in her bed.

        • felony stupid says:

          Yup…the same Jill Zarin who tweeted during the reunion that she would NEVER kiss another man like Ramona did becasue that would be disrespectful to Bawby – all while spooning w/ her PR dude. Whatever. She sucks.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Eileen Zarin called and said…..Yay, it’s about time.

  96. Houswife of CT says:

    My wish for the final 3rd installment would be Bethanny looking at Kellyamity and telling her using the hand level:

    I am here (way up at the top, New show,Baby,Husband)
    And you are here (hand down by her knee’s)

    **It would be fitting

  97. little rock says:

    2nd phone conversation b/t jill zarin & andy cohen re. erroneous info on facebook:

    Andy: Jill, i see you still have the wrong day listed for part 2 of the reunion.

    Jill: Give me an example, andy, give me ONE example where i did that!

    Andy: What example? Your page says tuesday, change it to monday, now bitch!

    Jill: Andy, that’s not true. I need proof. Show me the proof! proof, proof,proof

    Andy: Fuck proof! i’m looking at it now online, THERE’S your proof!

    Jill: Andy, JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT, DOESN’T MAKE IT TRUE.

    Andy: Listen, bitch, i KNOW you know how to use the f#@&ing delete button,
    so delete tuesday and type in monday!

    Jill: I can’t, ginger’s using the computer now.

    Andy: If you don’t correct it in the next 5 minutes, i’m going to come over there, rip
    out those hooker hair extentions and give them to kathy griffin!

    Jill( walking through the apartment lookin for bobby): Bawwwwwbbbby! Andy just
    threatened me, call the post office! I just can’t take this. I have never done
    anything to him. I’ll NEVER forgive him! But i might forget – where’s my
    “NOTEBOOK OF TOXIC PEOPLE AND THE THINGS THEY DO AND SAY
    TO ME”? Bobby, you talk to him.

    Bobby: Andy, why would you do this to her? She’s crying, and jill never cries.
    (in a whisper) please make up with her, you only have to deal with her a
    few months at a time, i have to LIVE with the bitch!

    Andy: God, grow some balls, jackhole! Now put jillhole back on the phone!

    Jill(taking the phone): Andy, i just consulted my notes and i can’t believe you
    didn’t serve appetizers at the taping of the reunion. 9 hours filming, and
    NOTHING to eat. Would it have killed you to have some crackers and
    cheese? Maybe a few porkchops?

    Andy: ZIP IT, BITCH! 5 minutes or i’m coming over there. Don’t make me do
    another opinion poll on your ass, you won’t like the results!
    (hangs up)

  98. iceNfire says:

    Good morning and OT – Just catching up from last night. Was it lillybee that’s going to be bed ridden for some time? Been there, hated it. I got to the point of zipping through books at a rate of almost 3 a week. The one that slowed me down and I recommend is
    The Song of Ice and Fire series – By George R. R. Martin (yes that’s where my screen name comes from) It a fantasy series that is not yet complete. The 1st Book is A game of Thrones and the 5th book is due out in Sept. – Just Sayin’

  99. Pantry Viewer says:

    You know who Jill reminds me of? Endora from Bewitched! LOL! With all the spakles full of make-up and fake hair, she looks just like Endora from Bewitched to me!

    Not a great example, but kinda close…

  100. kats2 says:

    While I’m sure there are plenty of momey hungry ho-bags who would go after Bobby for the lifestyke he can deliver, I just can’t believe Bobby would ever cheat on Jill. Beyond everything else, I do think these two are good together and truly in love. Same with Ramona and Mario, eyes may wander but I don’t think he would ever do that to her. Just a vibe, gut feel.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bobby traded in for the Jill model wife, maybe it is time to trade in again?

  101. Smompy says:

    Although there were many inaccuracies and some downright stupidity in that Death by 1000 Papercuts piece, this line in the very first paragraph killed any credibility the writer may have had:

    “Jill sat next Kelly Bensimon and LuAnn de Lesseps on an expensive fuchsia fabric covered couch.”

    Expensive looking? Maybe the article was written by Teresa Guidice???

    @Rabble Rouser
    “I apologize to those of you who love the show and think that Bethany can do no wrong-”

    No need to apologize for politely expressing your opinion about the new show, but I just wanted to point out that a lot of us Bethenny fans (most of us, I bet) would never say “Bethenny can do know wrong.” Hell, we’ve all seen her doing wrong with our own eyes! We’re well aware that she isn’t perfect, but we like her anyway – we probably like her even more because she IS imprefect and she owns that fact.

    And sorry to the Bostonians here, but I concur with shantygal. I am a New Yawka and I also hate the Sox, hate Hate HATE! I did graciously (if I say so myself) cheer for them when they finally won that Series, but now I’m back to hating their stinking guts again. Sorry!

    Hey, wouldn’t it be fun if Sonja and Bethenny’s assistant Max got into a cougar/fawn relationship? No? Well, I’D like it.

  102. Adgirl says:

    I have never heard a “Bethenny” fan say she can do no wrong. Early in this season I was up to here with her stressed demeanor and harsh delivery.

    It isn’t that she can do no wrong – it’s that what the other women were doing was SO MUCH WORSE.

    It’s a matter of proportion…. see??

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Si

    • Squirrels says:

      I hear you. But then Bethenny does something to completely hold my sides laughing. Like at Reunion Part one.

      to Jill during a particularly long, I don’t remember dialogue.

      “We need a court reporter for you”.

      • katiecoo says:

        I know! lol

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And Kelly (brain engaged and heard court reporter – thought “Judge” I know this stuff!) chimes in and B deflects and stays on target. I was laughing too!

  103. fredieu says:

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/06/11/real-housewives-new-york-reunion-recap/

    This is the EW recap of the Reunion Part One…… please skip down the the comments:

    Susan Sanders strikes again……

    • katiecoo says:

      Love this comment…lol:

      Delena
      Fri 06/11/10 3:08 PM

      If Jill’s lips are moving you know she’s lying. I was so happy that Bethenny told the truth last night, and didn’t let Jill weep her way out of this. Team Bethenny all the way! Suck it Susan Saunders.

  104. WindyCityWondering says:

    I was in a bad mood that day
    It didn’t come out right
    We all say things we don’t mean
    I’m in a really bad place
    It was an emotional day for me
    Cameras do change us
    Really, really sorry but
    I should have let it go
    I realize it too late
    Scared to be near you
    I don’t remember it, show it to me
    It’s just a fact
    I realize that now
    That’s not true
    To be honest with you
    I held a grudge
    I never said that
    I get confused

    I started keeping notes from Reunion Part 1 of Jill’s responses to questions. I missed alot but this is really why I hate Jill Zarin!

  105. lillybee says:

    Off topic. World Cup USA 1 England 1. First game ends in a tie.

  106. Bravo fan says:

    Well, I again commented on Jills blog and facebook about her posting the wrong date of the reunion part 2 show. She writes that it will be aired on Tuesday and we all know it will be on Monday. Every time i try to tell her about the error she deletes my comment and I wasn’t even mean in writing to her. SO NOW I KNOW SHE TRYING TO MISLEAD US. I have been leaving her messages for two days now.

    • iceNfire says:

      Part 2 must be really good!

    • jb8 says:

      Does she really think she can get us to miss the show? I mean, come on now Ms. Ego. You can watch full episodes on hulu.com, watch near continuous re-broadcasts on Bravo and watch at your leisure if you have On Demand. So if someone is dumb enough to believe she means Tuesday, they still won’t miss the show. Not you Kelly, you are ON the show.

  107. iceNfire says:

    So way back in the 1st part of the season Jill set up this whole thing about how she has to take notes because she can’t remember anything?
    And she did all this planning so she could go on the reunion, claim she doesn’t remember what she said or did and demand proof?
    Yep, that sounds like the Jill Zarin I hate.

  108. Squirrels says:

    Hold the phone Batman. I just saw Jill equate “zip it” with “we’re done”.

    Someone hold me erect. Jill claims she didn’t mean she was done, just an expression. OK then. The problem is “zip it” was just a 4th grade way to say “shut up”. “We’re done” is a whole different ball game.

    Now, to my wow moment. Jill trying to equate logic with anything Kelly spews serves two purposes. One, K’s zip it means nothing bad. Two, Kelly just got zingggged by Jill bringing up a very, very sore point.

    Play two sides against the middle much Jill Zarin?

    • katiecoo says:

      I wrote about that too….and the fact she claims telling you CHILD “Zip it” is the equivalent to telling them “we’re DONE”. Hmmmm….”shut up and be quet” compared to “I’m abandoning you”.

      Poor Ally. 😦

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        “We’re done” can be used to end a conversation where one side will not let it go (with an argumentative child) and “We’re done” can be used to end a conversation/relationship if you are a teenager. “We’re done” can by Jill does not mean the same as “Zip It” by Kelly. Jill stepped in the Gingerpoo trying to make that comparision.

    • Ellabean says:

      Spot on Squirrels.

  109. Squirrels says:

    Also, anyone notice Jill’s pink eye?

    Left eye.

    I was half hoping some cast member socked her. Wouldn’t have cared which one.
    😀

  110. lillybee says:

    When Jill said “we are done” in a talking head she added “I cut her out of my life, like a cancer”. She shouldn’t be able to live that one down.

    • katiecoo says:

      RIGHT! I keep harping on that comment, that by the way, was said in episode ONE of this season. yet she claimed at the Reunion she was harboring a grudge based on what B said on WWHL months after this was all filmed? Unbelievable spin.

      Like a CANCER…while claiming how her life was turned upside down by…drumroll….CANCER.

      That was the end…not the beginning of the end, but the end.

  111. spikeyweed says:

    I take the ‘Death by a 1,000 Papercuts’ site with a grain of salt because it’s above all a conservative opinion blog. Now, if that’s your thing, it’s well and good, enjoy it; but my expectations about finding anything insightful, even about RealHW’s. are low.

    • Char212 says:

      You know, it wouldn’t surprise me if Jill contacted her and asked her to write the blog. She sure did a 360 from her other blogs.

      • spikeyweed says:

        $$$ ? Because I think Jill can only buy a blogger for sale (or two) at this point!

        The author did keep bringing up Bethenny’s Peta involvement which had me thinking political as well.

        • anutha hata says:

          Thanks to Lynn for highlighting the topic!
          I have a link to DB1K on my RHONJ-blog, and I labeled it, “investigative” journalism because, (up until now), I relied on them to find facts.
          Having an opinion is fine, but posting false facts, is not.
          Its apparent that whoever wrote that item is not very familiar with the series.
          I think they even said that Jason & Bethenny moved-into Bethenny’s apartment? (I’d go back & check but truthfully with the forced-ads over there it takes too long & usually crashes my browser).
          Maybe someone over there will take notice of Lynn’s calling-out? I’d sure like an explanation for that article.
          They really damaged their credibility.

    • ShyAsrai says:

      so what you’re saying is “conservatives are liars”? what??

  112. Dolce says:

    It’s too bad that JillZ can’t poke fun at herself. It would have lightened the mood and gone in her favor if she could only eat some humble pie.

    For example: If she had arrived with a large briefcase, put it on the floor next to her and waited for Andy to say: “Jill, what’s that?” Jill opens case, pulls out huge reams of paper and deadpans, ” these are my notes.”

    If I’d been her PR person, after I had cashed her check, that’s what I’d have told her to do.

    She has absolutely no people skills; thus, she thinks she is always the correct one, and all others have wronged her.

    • spikeyweed says:

      I think she’s too much the narcissist to laugh at herself. For her, this season has been WAR (like Bethenny said, she came out from day one of filming with the goal of slaying her). And recently, during the finale, she kept saying lets talk “and put the weapons down”? It was such an odd thing to say; but it was very telling.

      For the most part it seems Shill Zarin likes to mock others in order to (attempt to, lol) elevate herself. That’s her ‘sense’ of humor.

    • Squirrels says:

      Dolce…. So well said. If Jill ran through the gauntlet and took her lumps with self deprecating humor, this ratings windfall would have died down.

      Food for thought.

  113. bethluvsben says:

    This blogger got me in trouble by printing Jill’s home address and telling me to send Jill death Threats. She should be shut down.
    Love Beth.

    • Gypsy says:

      Why do you keep lying? I am sure you never sent anything. No one ever said anything about death threats and anyone, even you, could google and find the Zarins’ addresses.

      The people here, Lynn included, take responsibility for their own decisions and actions.

      So, since you do what someone tells you, did Jill tell you to post your mindless comments on another site, using Lynn’s name and home town?

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      My goodness Lynn. I was so on the money about this one I scare myself. LOL.

    • anniieee says:

      Sorry for

      The misunderstanding

      Fear that you mis-

      Understood

      • anniieee says:

        that was for bethluvsben…. should have put her name on it…god..funny how saunders pops up…and so does she?

    • katiecoo says:

      Are you trying to say zzshutterdown ala Queen Peen (oh Greegeyo)?

    • HD says:

      LOL! That just sounds funny! You and Kelly are probably a lot alike. LOL!

    • jb8 says:

      Susan? J. Sample? Jill? So do you like the blog? You keep coming back…

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Oh Beth Beth Beth, it is the “Love Beth” that makes it poetic! Beth, send me $1million dollars, now!

  114. bethluvsben says:

    Oh and have a great weekend!

  115. iceNfire says:

    Sponsors of Rhony ( some are local, most national )
    Hershey’s
    P & E
    Toyota
    GMC
    Kodak
    ColdStone
    Panda Express
    Bonney Plumber
    Budweiser
    Match.com
    800Contacts
    Benjamin & Moore
    CarMax
    There’s more but I toke notes while falling asleep
    last night and can’t read my writing.

  116. Bravo fan says:

    J.Samples is back on Amazon and after a post about Jill giving the wrong date of the reunion she said there is no talk about amazongate on the reunion! Now tell me this is not Jill! How would some one other than Jill know this?

    • Gypsy says:

      Have any of Samples claims of inside knowledge ever proved true? None that I remember.

    • mel2 says:

      Bravo Fan: I have always thought J. Samples was Jill. Too much anger, trashing Silex’s children in a book review, etc. It doesn’t make sense unless it is Jill.

      • anniieee says:

        wasnt there a picture at some bbq at Jills place of J. samples..if she were her “friend” dont you think she would be pissed as hell at Jill for smearing her name all over the internet. I dont think anyone that “parties in the Hamptons” would want to be defending this shrilljill of a monster–without fear of ruining her own reputation. How sick…. Jill will use anything..and anyone.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      If it’s true that the issue wasn’t raised and some “insider” knowledge is required rather than just a lucky guess, any one of JZ’s “entourage” who attended the reunion filming would know, for starters. They could talk amongst themselves, among family, friends, who knows. It’s not like all of JZ’s extended family & family friends stay off the internet and some haven’t posted stuff such as at Amazon and likely other places.

      My guess is that Bravo would have likely preferred to keep the talk at the reunion show focused on events of the season, rather than getting into something as extracurricular as the Amazon.com issue. And JZ has claimed in an interview at her recent **Boston area** (cough) book signing that on the advice of her attorneys she can’t talk about the Amazon stuff, etc. due to “pending law suits” whatever that’s supposed to mean, if it’s not all her just blowing smoke again.

  117. Hooked On Housewives says:

    OMG. Jillousy proves over and over that she is one self-important, legend in her own mind, entitled POS. $2800.00 for a one way trip from NYC to the Hamptons..

    http://bluestarjets.com/news/newsday-051508.html

    • Squirrels says:

      “I’ve got so many things going on,” she said. “I’m managing a business, doing a TV show, taking care of my family and running back and forth from the Hamptons to the city.” Jill Zarin.

      I can’t help but run back an earlier post (ask me to find it and I’ll claw your eyes out). Soooo Jill?

      Marketing Director for Zarin FABrics? Oh you weasel.
      We’re done, have a nice day.
      😀

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She’s spending it while she still has it!

    • Squirrels says:

      Not to mention…. how did Bawwby get along without Jill in the way?… chit, i mean business?

      Let’s see. Biz going since 1936. Jill spending every dime promising Bawwby her next rhony contract is going to pay for not only everything he’s already spent on her, but that $3.7M diamond ring.

      Personally I think that’s the reason Jill isn’t sporting her wedding rings. She’s resting the digit for the REAL DEAL.

    • Dolce says:

      And what about her CARBON FOOTPRINT???!! Not trying to get political here, but I bet she’s one of “those” who espouse “do as I say, NOT as I do.”

    • ShyAsrai says:

      how very ‘green’ of her…

  118. Adgirl says:

    Zip it = We’re Done

    So when I tell my husband (hypothetically) to “Zip it”, I really meant “I want a divorce”?

  119. katiecoo says:

    For those who have this tivo’d, check something out!

    When Kelly tells Alex “cross your legs” look closely, right after that Jill glares at her and mouths something. I just played it over and over and it appears she’s saying “zip it” to her! Tell me what you think!!

    • iceNfire says:

      lol It did look like “zip it” It was definitely two syllables and appeared to be said under her breath.

      • katiecoo says:

        Yep, and I was looking at it thinking of other little phrases she could say like “thank you” or something and it definitely looks like “zip it”. And the thin downturned lip glare to accompany it. Talk about systematic bullying~

    • Gypsy says:

      I bet Jill says “zip it” a lot. Especially to Baaaawwby unless he brings $$$ jewelry with him.

  120. Squirrels says:

    I’m still in the over the eyes cool compress stage of my recovery.

  121. iceNfire says:

    Back too the red soled shoes and sticker. ( last time I promise)
    If the red soles represent high quality, class, income, or whatever, wouldn’t those of great wealth simply scuff them up, throw them away and buy new ones? lol

  122. desertgal66 says:

    I’ve used “we’re done” as a conversation closer. But, that isn’t how Jill used it. She clearly meant that her and B’s friendship was over.

    I’m not sure who you think you are kidding, JILL, but just because you say it doesn’t make it true.

    • katiecoo says:

      She sure did use it that way. Coupled with all the other corroborating statements (cut her out like a cancer, she doesn’t deserve to be around me, etc.) she was clearly DONE. Now she wants to unring that bell cuz he knows her only ticket back to favor is through the REAL Queen B.

  123. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    I don’t know if those Louboutins wer real or not, but the tag was definitely real. For any of you ladies desiring a taste of fashion at a discount…

    http://www.redshoessole.com

    I don’t know if they are real, but they look cute!

  124. katiecoo says:

    May I add whilst I review this reunion again, that it’s RAMONA who says “why don’t you two just go in the bedroom” to which Jill responds “no I’m not. I’m not being sabotaged like this”. Bethenny is willing to give Jill “the benefit of the doubt” because she remembers that SOMEONE said something about going privately in to the bedroom to talk and guess what? It was RAMONA, right there on camera. And Jill saying NO. I wish someone had caught that obvious contradiction (among many) right there on the reunion. This chick needs to be cross examined by the likes of Nancy Grace to point out all of her inconsistencies. Now that is another one I’d do PPV for.

  125. katiecoo says:

    I will add to my list of ZarinProjections. When she says at the Reunion “I got beaten up in the press for not being there for you or whatever”. Um, no Jill, it was YOU claiming B was not there for YOU.

    You got beaten up in the press for being a mean girl, backstabbing, sabotaging, betraying, lying, attacking former friend. It had nothing to do with what you “didn’t” do…it had everything to do with what you DID.

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  127. Margo Channing says:

    Preview of next installation of Reunion shows Ramona begging forgivness from the JiZ? Please tell me, rockin’ Ramona would not stoop so low….and for what reason!?! That is one “friendship” I do not understand!

  128. sheisstirrer says:

    I found this article about Betthenys father and mother. Explains a lot. Her mom basically married her dads arch enemy (who was also in the horse business.) I never could figure out why B kept saying she grew up at a horsetrack, but never saw her father. Now I know. Just another piece of the puzzle for my friends who, like me, should probably, “get a hobby.”

    http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.php/John-Pricci/11182009-a-brooklyn-tale/

  129. dsc60 says:

    i had on BGM the other night but was distracted by other crap around me. i didn’t think i was crazy about it. i’m watching it again right now and i’ve got to say i’m loving it! bethany is sooo funny. i seriously don’t know how anyone could not like her. and i’m really digging jason also. they are so cute together.

    i’m praying BGM makes it and hope it continues with the huge audience it had on the first night. after all, success is the best revenge to all the haters, including our favorites, jill and kelly.

  130. Sue M says:

    I love your blog. You’re spot on with Jill. I feel she has truly shown her colors this last season and I hope that Bethenny does not unlearn the lesson she got dealing with Jill this last year. Message to Bethenny: Be on speaking terms with Jill only, but definitely do NOT let her into your life as it was before!! Jill is what Alex said, A MEAN GIRL!! I don’t believe Jill is sincere about changing…a leopard can’t change his spots. And I think Jill is very scared that too many people see through her.

  131. SusieQ says:

    Someone earlier stated that Jill had a falling out w her sister and they didnt speak for several years. That happens in the best of families. Bethenny couldnt even find one relative to attend her wedding. That speaks volumes to me.
    Jill is a New York socialite; Bethenny is a new wanna be that people are already getting bored of her one liners.

    • ShyAsrai says:

      Jill married Bawwwbeeeee and his money only 7 years ago. That’s not exactly Jill being ‘old money/long established NYC socialite!

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