I Hate Jill Zarin Jill Attacks Alex June 12, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin        Jill Attacks Alex and Simon       June 12, 2010

Jill has been relentlessly attacking Alex over the last few days and it is time to explore why that is…

Obviously I’m a fan of Alex and Simon but even before meeting them and seeing how absolutely wonderful they are (not to mention seeing their love for each other) I was a fan because of the gracious and classy way Alex has been depicted on the Real Housewives of New York.  Anyone can talk about editing and what Bravo chooses to air, they can say we don’t really know them and on and on.  Here’s the thing though, what we see is real, they aren’t given scripts, they aren’t playing characters on a TV Sitcom or Soap Opera.  What we see them say, they really said.  What we see them do, they really did.  Period!   With all of their complaining of editing, has one of them ever been able to prove that their actions or words are not their own?  Nope!

Here are Jill’s tweets during the show:

 Jason was very nice to me when we worked out together. He didn’t have to do it if I was such a horrible person did he?

Lynn:  Jason doesn’t like you, that has to cut deeply so I’ll let that go….

If B ever cared about me…she would not have done this to me. I would NEVER have let this happen to her. EVER.

Jill RE-Tweeted this one….KaleyMargaret    @Bethenny is crossing the line right now… don’t take blows at @JillZarin’s husband and daughter.

B admitted I wanted to talk off camera to make up. Don’t you get it. I wanted to TALK TO MY FRIEND. It was real.

Lynn:  Jill, you are the one who put the argument on national Television, why should Bethenny agree to talk to you off camera, you were untrustworthy!  Who knows what lies you will tell after a “private meeting”?

Now B doesn’t remember? She told @bravoandy I never said I wanted to talk off camera? She is deflecting. And now hurting my ally?

Lynn:  YOU hurt your Ally by putting her problems on television!

I always wanted to be on an ensemble. I did want to be with B and would miss her. I was so happy for her. I was the first person she told.

Lynn:  Hmmm.. but who is NOW with B?  Resenting Alex for being on Bethenny’s Getting Married? just a little bit?

B told me not to film with Kelly…everyone has tried to control filming etc. Don’t throw stones

You bet..we all make money and wanted the same thing

Lynn:  Bethenny may have asked you not to film with Kelly but not in an attempt to sabotage the show, only because she didn’t want Kelly on the show and MANY viewers share the sentiment!  You even said it Jill Zarin! 

give @kikilet some love people. She did NOTHING wrong…just wanted to be on a tv show to make money for her kids. Seriously…don’t be mean

This is from Jill Zarin’s blog (over ½ of this blog is about Alex McCord)

Alex.. what can I say. Again..we were never and are not “friends”. I am very clear in the friendship chapter of my book ( Secrets of a Jewish Mother) what it takes to be a friend etc. We wrote it when all this was going on last fall. It saved my life. My mother was trying to teach me ( again!) the lessons of friendship. Relationships are the hardest thing we ALL have to work through ( spouses, children, co-workers, friends) and it takes work. I think that is what people were so invested in this season. Many of you reading this have told me you had an experience similar to this) . People were curious to see what would happen and also compare our relationships to their own. The premise of REALITY TV is “Better you than me!” or ” I wish I were …”

Lynn:  Don’t forget to mention the Book, Jill

There are still things I wish I could have said and things that were cut out. For example…Alex had NO PROBLEM asking Bobby and I to give her $2000 worth of fabric for FREE for her fashion show. Why did Bravo cut that out?? Because it would make me look good? Because it would show that I was trying to be her friend and the audience would see through her plan? Alex’s plan was to make noise to stay on the show. Jen Gilbert was cast to be a potential replacement. I didn’t do it. Bravo did. In fact I spoke to Silex about it..about how they should do something. Well, I guess this was what they figured out to stay on the show. I only wish them well but I don’t see us ever being friends again. They went below the belt and did things off the show that are unforgivable including accusing fans of being me on Amazon reviews. It is disgusting. J Samples is NOT ME. Never was and never will be. I hope people who read the book write reviews on AMAZON or wherever they purchased it and write a fair review and not be intimidated by people. People used Amazon as a blog for the show. I feel terrible that my sister and mother worked so hard on this book with me and are being hurt by all this.

We already know that Jill wants Alex off The Real Housewives of New York, she doesn’t like Alex and this blog is my attempt to figure out why. 

Jill mentioned the donation that Zarin Fabrics gave to Brooklyn Fashion Week.  Apparently $2,000 worth of fabric was donated to the charity that produces the fashion show. (2 bolts = $2k?  you do the math)  Ok, that was a nice thing to do but let’s talk about why she did it.  Zarin Fabrics was on the step and repeat as a thank you for her donation.  The donation and fashion show was filmed by Bravo so Jill was expecting to see it on the air, more free publicity for Zarin Fabrics.  Bad news Jill, Bravo chose not to air the donation scene, Alex didn’t choose not to air it, the producers make that choice, so why are you trying to blame Alex?   (every housewife has mentioned scenes that they wish were in the show but didn’t make the cut)  I’ll bet Alex has dozens of scenes showing her children behaving well that she’d love to see aired! 

Jill says in the first paragraph, “We were never and are not Friends”  then just a few lines later Jill says, “I was trying to be her friend”.  Pick one Jill!

Jill claims that Alex was “making noise” to secure her place on the show.  Jill thinks Alex was concerned about her place on the show and that Jennifer Gilbert being brought on was a threat to Alex.  I don’t intend to speak for Alex but …..bahhahahahahahah.  Jennifer Gilbert?  Really Jill?  Another theory blown to hell, huh Jill?  If this were true, would Alex have offered to be the one to introduce Jennifer in her storyline? 

The bottom line is that Alex doesn’t need to “make noise” she is a beloved member of the cast and whether the show picks her up for another season or not, her fans will stick by her in whatever is next in her life! 

Jill’s new accusation is that Alex supposedly tried to put a story in the press about Jill and some charity issue.  Naturally, Jill has given no details (what about a charity?) and she has given no sources, (who told you that Jill?) nor has she mentioned which publications, (Who did Alex supposedly contact Jill?)

If this were true, why hasn’t it come out before now?  Why did Jill save that bombshell to throw at Alex during the reunion?  Everything else we heard on the reunion show is basically old news that is being rehashed or is being discussed to try to uncover what really happened.  This is something new that no one has heard.  If there were FIVE different sources, doesn’t it stand to reason that at least one of them would come out against Alex’s attempts to sully Jill’s reputation?

These reporters/bloggers are quick to put stories out there of Jill doing things like this.  We read about Jill’s “people” sending out stories to RealityTea, even writing the text for them to print and sending art.  Come-on Jill!  We heard from two other reporters telling us that Jill tried to get them to write reviews for her book.  Reporters told us what Jill was trying to do.  Why would FIVE reporters cover up for Alex?

Jill is lying, I can say that as if I know it for a fact, because I do know it for a fact.  Do I have proof that she is lying?  The burden of proof is on Jill.  She needs to prove something DID happen, there is no way to prove that something DID NOT happen, particularly when she won’t name names or even publications.  It is impossible to go to every single news outlet, blogger and reporter to get confirmation that Alex did not contact them with a bogus story about Jill.  Jill knows this.  Her four publicists sleeping on her floor know this. 

Why is Jill doing this?  Easy!  She doesn’t want Alex on the show next season.  Jill has said privately and will say publically that she will not be on the show next season if Alex is on the show.  We all know that Jill cannot stay out of the spotlight.  She can’t even keep quiet for more than a few hours during her self-imposed break from Social Networks.  She will implode if she isn’t on the show next season and since she’s already said she won’t be on the show unless Alex is gone, she is going to do everything in her power to ensure that Alex is history. 

Personally, if I were a Bravo executive, Jill wouldn’t be anywhere near any show that airs on Bravo!  Here’s why.  Jill tried to tell the other housewives not to shoot scenes with Bethenny, Jill  wants Bethenny to swing in the wind all alone and let her show fail.  There is no other reason for her to try to influence the other ladies to avoid Bethenny.    Bravo executives even asked Ramona if she was going to listen to Jill and refuse to film with Bethenny.  Clearly Jill wants Bethenny’s  show to fail and actually tried to make that happen.  It is one thing to “wish” someone fails, it is another to take steps to try to make that happen.

Does this show loyalty to Bravo?  Does this show loyalty to her “friend” Bethenny?  If we ignore the fact that Jill continues to say that she only wishes the best for Bethenny and she loves her and misses her.  What about Bravo and its television line up?  Its advertisers, its ratings and its success?    I would think that Bravo spent a substantial amount of money filming, producing, editing, promoting and airing Bethenny’s Getting Married.  Are you allowed at your job to try to sabotage a project that your company has put substantial effort into?  I would think not!  I would think that is grounds for termination!

Back to Alex, Jill can’t undo what she’s done.  She can’t now appear on the show if Alex is also on the show without looking ridiculous!  She can back pedal, she’s done that many times before but she would look pretty stupid. 

Jill’s behavior at Luann’s event during fashion week showed me that she had no intention of taking Alex seriously, Jill thought that it was going to be a repeat of Season One and Season Two.  Still taking no responsibility for what she said, we watched as she said, “you should put in your parenting book what to do when your kids crawl up someone’s leg….bahahaha”  Evil Jill!  Jill thought she could strike the children and viewers would still love her?  Think again Jill Zarin! 

Jill called Alex and asked her to refuse to film with Bethenny.  Clearly, Alex said “no”.  Jill tried to appease Alex at the Saks event by primping Alex’s hair and adjusting Alex’s earrings but in the end said, “Do you feel better?  You should!”  In Jill’s mind, it was done!  It was over, she didn’t have to deal with Alex anymore.  It was clear to two million viewers that Jill had swept it under the rug and rushed through an insincere apology and rushed away to her “guests”.  In Jill’s mind she has control over Alex and can manipulate Alex whenever she wants to and Alex will fall back into line. 

To use Jill’s words, “Jill doesn’t deserve to be in the same room with Alex’s boys!”  During the visit that Jill made to Alex’s house, they discussed Bethenny and then apparently Jill spent some time with the boys.  If the rest of the visit was anything like the few minutes we say, I pity Alex for having to deal with this woman around her children.

Jill was more worried about one of the boys stepping on her yapping ugly dog then the boys getting bitten by that overgrown rodent!  The dog bit Ally, if I were Alex that dog wouldn’t make it over my threshold.  What makes Jill think she can bring that horrible dog to other people’s houses!?!?

Jill tried to back-peddle by saying, “I didn’t mean it how it came out”.  Yet she said on television, in an interview that Alex appeared to be channeling the devil and that Alex may have the body for modeling, but not the face.  Look at who is talking!  We haven’t seen Jill walk the runway, have we?  I guess they couldn’t find a Size 1 dress for her to wear! 

Jill has made a career of back peddling , nothing is her fault,  everyone else made her do it, her daughter saw an obscure tweet so it was Ally’s fault she spewed incorrect information about baby Bryn, other people do the same thing or worse.

So Jill has thrown down the gauntlet!  She has basically threatened Bravo that she will refuse to return to the show if Alex is going to be on the show.  For my purposes, I am thrilled.  If Jill walks away or isn’t invited back due to her malicious attempts to sabotage Bravo’s new show, I will watch and enjoy The Real Housewives of New York even more!

If Jill gets her way, (highly doubtful) and Alex is no longer on the show yet Jill is, I won’t be watching so either way,  I don’t have to watch Jill Zarin on TV ever again!  Oh Happy Day! 

Finally, I would like to extend my congratulations to Bethenny Frankel, Alex McCord and Simon VanKempen for showing the class to ignore Jill Zarin and her absurd rants and raves!  Thank you to Jill Zarin for making these three people look even BETTER to fans, to the press and to Bravo executives!

Until Next Time…….

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542 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Jill Attacks Alex June 12, 2010

  1. RileyKitty says:

    love the fresh space 🙂

    • Hea Zerin says:

      Jill Zarin is a complete fake! The RHONY is a great show, but Jill, LouAnn, and Kelly are losers!! Backstabbers that call each other friends? Get a REAL life! Jill, you seriously need to look at yourself closely. You are ruthless and mean. You lack morals, and you need a makeover! You blame editing, but all we see week after week is you being hateful to you “friends”… Wow! What a loser!

  2. Smompy says:

    This is now new, it’s slightly off topic and it’s probably on one or more of IHJZ’s pages already, but since I’ve never seen the article before myself, I figured I’d post this link to a little interview with Avery Singer.
    http://crushable.com/entertainment/ramona-singers-daughter-avery-opens-up-about-having-a-real-housewife-as-a-mom/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+b5media/IdolStalker+(Idol+Stalker+-+Watching+American+Idol)

    BTW I still don’t much care for that Jill Zarin bitch.

    • Snarkapalooza says:

      Hadn’t seen that before – thanks Smompy!

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      Such a lovely article! Yeah, Ramona seems like a really good and thorough mom.

    • kokuanani says:

      From the article:

      Avery — an only child who vows to one day have “a lot of children” so they won’t be lonely for siblings (like she was growing up) — is stretching her wings and going away this summer on a “Teen Tour” of Hawaii, where she will do some community service

      Ramona, be sure to get in touch with me. I can keep an eye on Avery while she’s here in Hawaii.

  3. cusi77 says:

    Hello!

    I was left all alone! Great Blog, Lynn… Thank you for your time…

  4. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    A few observations

    Dear Gloria aka MommyDearest was defunct as soon as Jill’s hateful behaviour was shown by ep2? Questions from desperate jewish girls flooded bravos office and email yet Gloria refused to ruin poor men’s relationships, discourage inter-racial dating, or increase jewelry sales etc.

    Vicki from the OC STFU and was never heard from again. Why all the bickering? Because your bitchy cow friend is trying to ruin a reputation, destroy a brand, and sabotage a show! That what!

    During the reunion either ALEX had her chest and neck spackled with makeup or our girlthursday actually is now VERY COMFORTABLE CONFRONTING PEOPLE. She did NOT BREAK OUT IN HIVES at all! She can rumble with the rude witches and not be frazzled. I think her strength and calm comes with knowing she is in the right, defending herself, her family and mankind. LOL

  5. bethluvsben says:

    Wow! You have absolutely NO life Lynn.
    QUICK… TAKE THIS DOWN LYNN.

    • Squirrels says:

      hahaha. it’s getting late here. Be gone, before a house drops on you, too.

      And btw, your demand Lynn take down her blog? How sophomoric. You must be very tired or a Jill PR apprentice. Working all hours of the night. Minimum wage – less expenses.

    • Anitabee says:

      Oh wow — bethluvs is back.

      Poor flying monkey — it’s after midnight. Fly back to your wicked witch and feed her your young.

      Lordy — WHY ARE U SO BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRING?!?

    • Kat says:

      @Adgirl~ LMAO!
      I thought bethluvsben was just a cheerleader but now I’m sure she is trying out for the offense.

      Bethluvsben beware of Jill, if you compete with her for team captain she’ll demote you to the team mascot and Kelly will serve you for dinner. (Peta doesn’t care if you eat meat just don’t kill animals.)

      Don’t forget to post your blog link bethluvsben, I’m sure we all would like to visit and set your page afire!

    • anniieee says:

      Who doesn’t have a life… you seem to spend all of your time lurking here, making nonsensical comments on a blog you don’t agree with. You seem to be obsessive/ccompulsive with your little remarks. You should go hang out with Kelly and her tweets..and get your own life. So so sad. Careful Ben is going to find out what you are really like and dump ya. ahhhhh

    • shantygal says:

      No, no, no. Beth loves JASON not Ben.

    • DLA says:

      Lynn. Looks to me as if you have a wonderful life. You are a successful writer. How may hits on your blog just today?

      You meet great people.

      You report facts. Not fiction.

      Best of all you give your readers and the fans of RHONY a place to laugh or vent or whatever.

      How nice to have an escape from oil spills, money worries, crying children, dishes and so many more important aspects of everyday life.

      You are a gifted woman and I LOVE your site.

      Rock on sister!

  6. Squirrels says:

    Alex breaking out in hives? Alex can break out into Carmen for all I care. (ok, I love Carmen) . She is one trying to get life right within the confines of Bravo. Bethenny tries as well, but with a different style.

    The beauty is between the two of them, they fully comprehend what is acceptable in day to day dealings. The Jill’s they leave behind will always be clawing at “what about me” dreams.

    Dreams are wishes you hope during your sleep. Reality takes an enormous amount of work.

    Dream on Jill.

    • shantygal says:

      Correct. As Alex said, basic civility would be nice or in other words, treat others as you would like to be treated.

      • felony stupid says:

        I loved Alex’s basic civility comment. Finally some common sense. You don’t have to be besties with everyone but there is no need to claw the eyes out of anyone who isn’t. IMHO that is one of Jill’s basic problems, if you are not her bff you are her enemy. This is simply not realistic and it sheds light on all that silly Team Jill nonsense – you are either with her or against her. It is not an option in her world to just BE.

        I think Jill is finally finding out, much to her dismay, that she is very very alone in her views of the world. Most people have no desire to draw lines in the sand, pick sides or start wars – although in this situation Jill has pushed people to make a choice. The brains of this operation (Ramona, Bethenny & Alex and quite possibly Sonja) decided they didn’t need her crap and were forced by Jill’s actions to be the opposite of whatever “Team Jill” is. She screwed herself. She needs a basic lesson in manners and how to get along with people.

  7. Need a Hobby says:

    Lynn: I’ve read this blog entry again, especially about Jill’s “gauntlet.” Despite what Jill may say now, IMO she craves attention and the spotlight so much that IF Bravo were to offer her a contract again, she might very well sign up again no matter who else was on the show. No matter what she says now, no matter how categorical a stand she might take now, remember this is Jill. If she were offered a contract and she wanted to come back, she would turn on a dime, spin, and come out with a series of various reasons why she changed her mind. Oh, and don’t forget “her” audience….didn’t Jill say sometime this season somewhere (blog, FB, twitter?) something like “I do it for you,” i.e., the audience, her fans.

    (1.where’s the puke smiley when you need it? 2. Jill thinks she’s a regular Norma Desmond, doesn’t she?)

    Like you, I think Bravo/Shed Media would have a number of reasons to not offer her a contract. Trying to sabotage two of the network’s shows and one of the network’s stars….well, I’d bet they’re “not happy” over that. So it can’t be assumed that they’ll offer Jill a gig for another season. There are various factors to consider. And if Jill thinks any “ultimatum” from her to the network is much of bargaining chip in her favor with Bravo/NBC/Universal….I suspect she not only hasn’t been paying attention to the biz, she’s also gone over the edge.

    Remember last year when reportedly contract negotiations for some of the cast (Jill was mentioned) dragged on, Bravo showed that they were not hostages to anyone in the existing cast: they put out a casting call and had people lining up to be on the show. Recasting won’t be a problem.

    Bravo will review audience response and comments (their market research methods were revealed recently in the NYT) and see what the viewers think. What does the audience want to see next year? Yeah, the conflict and drama brought in the ratings this year: it was transfixing to watch the deconstruction not just of a core relationship of the show but also of one of its main characters (JZ). It was Trainwreck TV, the “I don’t wanna look but can’t help it” kind of appointment TV. I think it was NY Mag that said, watching this show hurts our souls. Even Gawker’s Richard Lawson was appalled. And bloggers, posters all over the net have remarked that the largely unrelenting disturbing drama of this season needed some balance. The show needs more light, more fun, more glamour. More of the kind of charming insouciance that Sonja, for example, brings to the show.

    Bravo may decide that this is a good opportunity for a change of direction and tone for RHONY. And it’s also perhaps a natural opportunity to wrap up certain story lines. IMO from a storyline viewpoint, the end of this season could be a perfect resolution and ending point for both Jill’s and Bethenny’s “characters” on the show. On my closing credits for them on RHONY I’d say: “Little Bethenny is happy at last and her story continues on BGM and whatever the next season will be called.* Jill continues to try to be a better person and ‘do the right thing.’ Bobby’s buying Jill an iPad so Jill can always have her notes readily at hand while trolling Bravo related messageboards.” (I kid, I kid.)

    *Notice Bravo’s page for BGM says “Season 1” which Bravo normally doesn’t put on a first time show. And on WWHL B also referred to her show having a second season .

    • Squirrels says:

      Brava

    • Anitabee says:

      Well, let’s think.

      Yes the Bethenny/Jill/Kelly drama did get Bravo they high ratings they wanted but isn’t this played out? Who wants to see another season of Jill attacking everyone in sight? Who sick of Kelly trying to make her point but not being able to get the right words out of her head?

      Now that is obvious to all the viewers out their that Kelly is mentally challanged and been convicted of assault is Bravo REALLY going to cross that line and bring her back? The ONLY way to have Kelly on the show again is too see her get much needed therapy either on or off camera -whichever way she prefers but therapy is a must!

      Watching Kelly on Ramona’s trip made thousands of viewers queasy and we won’t put ourselves through that again.

      Bethenny has stated that she won’t do the show if Kelly is on. If Kelly goes and gets some “real” help Bethenny might reconsider. She probably just wouldn’t shoot with Kelly. With Baby Bryn in her life now, even I don’t want Kelly around Bethenny.

      Jill – Jill – Jill

      Bravo has seen her true colors. If they bring her back, it would state that Bravo supports all the crap that she does off camera. The vindicitiveness, lies, planted stories, fake press, and attacking Bravo viewers.

      The whole amazongate is warrent enough to have her fired. YET, the reason they should can her size 1 ass is that Jill has bitten the hand that feeds her. She blames Bravo for a lot of her wrong doing. She doesn’t blog for the viewers. She doesn’t take comments from viewers. She blocks viewers. She attacks viewers. She lies to viewers. The list goes on.

      She also tried to take the RHONY down by demanding that Bethenny be filmed only by herself. And she tried to derail Bethenny’s new show.

      Seriously Bravo — where do you go from here? The show has millions of loyal fans. We want a good show. Not needless crazy vindictive drama.

      Bethenny’s show doesn’t have that turn-your-stomach drama. It got HUGE ratings. Fans want a great season not more of Kelly’s jelly beans and Jill’s nastiness.

      • shantygal says:

        Just playing devil’s advocate here, so bear with me. It remains to be seen whether B’s show will continue to pull huge ratings. Only one episode has aired, directly after a much hyped & anticipated reunion show of RHONY. BGM will have that same lead-in advantage for episode 2. I’ll be interested to see if BGM can sustain those ratings for episodes 3 and on.

      • toile says:

        Hear! Hear! you’ve said it so well TY

    • GreatExpectations says:

      Awesome post. Audience fatigue is a real issue. I, too, noticed that even Richard at Gawker had just given up with his amazing blog stories about the show. It had really just all become too appalling.

      I think Bethenny’s show was a breath of fresh air and the audience deserves some happiness after all of that horror Jill and Kelly put us through.

    • Dixie says:

      Is it possible that Jill, by holding out on contract negotiations last year, inadvertently is responsible for Bethenny having her own show? Maybe Bravo decided that if there were going to be contract holdouts on the wives they should lock in their favorite housewife by giving her her own show. The timeline would be about right. Wouldn’t it be poetic justice if Jill’s arrogance was the catalyst for Bravo offering Bethenny her own show?

    • B.A. says:

      That was awesome, Need A Hobby. Thanks for that!

  8. Adgirl says:

    Jill would do a show with a pair of dirty underpants. As long as the underpants lived at a good address and could get her invited to better parties.

  9. boston02127 says:

    @Olivia~I’m with you. If I had to be stuck in a room with either Danielle or Kelly,
    I’d pick Danielle. I’d be afraid I’d be looking at life in prison if I was stuck with Kelly for more than a half hour.
    Wait. Would there be toilet seat covers in that room I’d share with Danielle?

    • anniieee says:

      Now that was good… and I so agree with you Boston. I want to knock Kelly’s horse teeth down her throat everytime she opens her mouth… oy the stupidity…and I have never hit anyone in my life. Its amazing she can get up and get dressed everyday. Oh wait..she does forget her pants.

      • DLA says:

        Kelly is just sad.

        After spending time with her like A B R & S did I think we would all agree.

        It is like talking to a brick wall.

        We would first get mad.

        Then freaked out.

        Then just so sorry for her.

  10. causticbroad says:

    Hey I lost my post. I have a question. Why is it that both Kelidiot and Jillous both state that Alex and B “planted stories in the press about them” but neither of them can show “proof or evidence” as Sonja would say??? Those 2 give me HIVES!!

  11. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s Tweet:
    getting ready to celebrate my new feather jewelry line. Two limited pieces are made specifically to support FEEDING… http://bit.ly/9zAgUY
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    Sorry Kelly, you’re going to have to do better than that.

    • shantygal says:

      How 1979.

    • kokuanani says:

      So was Kelly playing with her Very Own Feather Jewelry Line while she was on the couch at the reunion?

      • DLA says:

        About me and why I love this site.

        At first I had a really hard time understanding this site because I think the word hate is pretty strong.

        The turning point with me is this.

        Jill knew Kelly was having a breakdown.

        I believe K is retarded.

        To use a retarded person to your own sick advantage is worthy of hate.

        And for anyone who has not had a retarded person in their lives do not bitch me out for using the word. I unlike you am allowed.

  12. Teresa says:

    Jill might leave Bravo, but I dont think that will be the end of her. She will probably end up on the VIEW since they love her so much, it would be so appropiate because those women…are such haters. CANT stand Joy Behar!!!

    • Anitabee says:

      According to her tweets she filmed with her PR firm on their new E!reality tv show yesterday.

      So nice that Jill filmed for the E!Channel. What a way to show loyalty. What a way to publicly bite the hand that feeds her.

      • HD says:

        This PR company is doing a horrible job for her. They should not have had her on their show because they do HORRIBLE work. They should have advised her to keep her damn mouth shut/no tweeting/no facebook for a little while and she should have NEVER closed her comments. She should have faced the heat. She is an idiot and the PR company is TRASH!

        • felony stupid says:

          Sounds to me she is using this PR group as a jumping board to a new gig. I don’t think she give a shit about them actually doing any work for her…

        • DLA says:

          What was the name of the woman who did such a wonderful job for her at the skating party?

          Did we see JZ listening to her?

      • little rock says:

        This is great! Now we can see how THEY deal with her. Of course it is staged, but the timing couldn’t be better, if they are dealing with what’s happening right now: her trying to LIE and WHINE her way back to popularity. It won’t work, but i have to admit, I might watch THAT episode.

        • Anitabee says:

          This firm does the PR for the truly classless trashy D-list celebrities like Kelly Bensimon, the Kardashians, Girls from the Hill, etc.

          I guess it makes PERFECT sense that Jill ended up with them.

      • BamaBelle says:

        Anitabee…

        Are you talking about Jill appearing on E! talking about the Danielle “sex tape scandel”? I saw her Saturday night on E! giving her opinions about Danielle. AJ asked her if Danielle should be fired for the sex tape… Jill said, NO! She said Bravo wanted drama, and if we just saw Danielle getting a peticure… that’s boring and we wouldn’t watch.

        She also chimed in that “Of course, the sex tape can’t be good for Danielle’s children”… Well, Jill Zarin’s outrageous behavior can’t be good for her child, either. Oh, but I bet she would think Danielle should be fired for bad behavior if it wasn’t for HER stinking bad behavior on air and since the show stopped filming. She can’t say Danielle should be fired… if she said that… she’d have to admit she herself should be fired too, because the fans are screaming for Jill to go… just like they are for Danielle to go!

        She almost sounded like it’s all Bravo’s fault because they want the DRAMA… good or bad!

        I didn’t watch the whole segment… I refuse to watch anything Jill appears on… I couldn’t turn the channel right away because I was in the middle of something… LOL!

        • Anitabee says:

          I too refuse to watch Jill on anything she appears on. But I took this off her twitter page:

          “.Just did a cameo on my friend @JonathanCheban and @SimonHuck new E! Show at 75 main street who I met thru @BrittGastineau. Fun!
          1:05 PM Jun 11th via Twittelator “

  13. anutha hata says:

    I think I have a theory for you Lynn.
    OK-we did get off-topic, but now that you posted a new blog, I looked at your question again.
    (even-though what the Corona Guy says about NeNe is probably waaaay more interesting at this point)
    But-Why does Jill want Alex & Simon off the show?
    How about this idea, before it became known that Bethenny & Alex were friends, but you could kind-of see it going in that direction, I know that I was thinking, “yeah! Alex is just what Bethenny needs right now.” They are really GOOD for each other.
    Maybe some of Jill’s Alex-hating comes from not wanting Bethenny and Alex to have a friendship?
    We saw Jill give Kelly marching-orders with her email telling her not to be friends with Bethenny.
    I don’t know about the Countess, she may still be pissed about Bethenny calling her a Tranny? (I think I remember that happening? A “big dumb drag-queen?))
    Ramona having the good-sense to join BRA, I honestly don’t know how she did that.
    But Bethenny & Alex actually make sense as long as Jill isn’t interfering.
    If your question goes back to Season One, Jill may have seen that from the very beginning?
    That Alex & Bethenny would be good together, and Jill could have resented that because she saw Bethenny as the biggest star and wanted to latch-onto her for herself? And, getting rid-of Simon & Alex would get-rid of the threat?
    I wonder how much heck Jill gave Bethenny for going to the Birthday party in Brooklyn? Nobody else from the cast went, so they did start pretty early trying to shut Alex & Simon out.

  14. Squirrels says:

    Oh Kelly. Thank you so much for your pulling for a cause. I can say as one person who needs to be fed, thank you thank you.

    You have never held back helping. I’ve been personally impacted by your intervention. The fact you came forward gave me a 1/100 of a single meal.

    All I need now is cartwheels, unicorns, and bullshit.

    Then I shall be full.

    Thank you again. You are beyond beautiful.

  15. Nicole says:

    I posted this previously but I don’t think it ever showed up. I think it ended up in cyberspace somewhere.

    I have had a theory since about the middle of the season regarding Jill remaining on the show. Since learning of how she ask the other castmates not to film with Bethenny, wanting Bethenny’s show to fail and the production staff contacting Ramona about not filming with Bethenny,, I am now believing my theory may hold water.

    I stated on the Bravo message board weeks ago that I thought Bravo had a plan to remove Jill from the show but for that to happen they had to do something with
    the hugh fanbase that they thought Jill had. Bravo did not want to do anything that would rile up the fanbase and lose viewers so they came up with what I think was a brilliant idea and Jill provided everything they needed to succeed.

    Looking back on this season, Bravo has not shown Jill in a good light in one single scene. Even the skating scene showed Jill making an ass out of herself. Bravo has shown all the ugly comments Jill has made, all the underhanded things Jill has done. Week after week, scene after scene has made me go from being a fan of Jill to loathing the sight of her and wanting her off the show to the point of starting a petition to remove her. All one has to do is read a few blogs and message boards and you can see that Jill’s fan base has declined greatly. People don’t just dislike Jill, they can’t stand the sight of her now and tuned in week after week hoping to see her get what she had coming. I think Bravo had enough film that they could have shown more positive footage of Jill but chose not to. Bravo knew what they were doing by letting the fans get to know the real Jill and their plan has worked better than I think they thought it would.

    Jill became a liability for Bravo and they had to do something and I think they are brilliant for handling it this way.

    • Squirrels says:

      Nicole. Your take is astute. For us to forget this is a money making proposition for Bravo? Duh us.

      To allow Jill to be the fall guy? I would at once think, “how rude”. To see Jill do it to herself? “priceless”.

      She’s the epitome of the jack rabbit on a date. She’ll fuk anyone, and quickly.

    • anutha hata says:

      I think you have a good point, and I also think that some of Jill’s fans were Susan Saunders/aka Jill Zarin, and since she was caught red-handed on Amazon she had to tone that down a little?
      Although her Pr Amanda may have possibly been caught posting at Reality Tea last week, and other “paid”-fans, her # one fan Susan Saunders and her multiple personalities are keeping a lower-profile.

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      I like that theory Nic!

    • Jacqueline A says:

      ITA. The dog pooping all over Jill’s apartment and them showing the shoe in her sink was beyond inappropriate. Jill falling during her big moment. The editing showing Jill lying during her interview about how she took the high road during Ramonas True Renewal Event but actually was horrible to Ramona. Jill did a great job blowing herself up during the show and with her twitter and facebook comments. Bravo added a little extra to show a point. As B says Jill just cant get out of her own way.

  16. Teresa says:

    Lynn, got to ask…where did you find your background photo of KELLY with the “KREEPY” necklace? Did you create it?

    • BamaBelle says:

      otay… Thanks for posting that link. I can’t believe what a LIAR Jill is…

      I am just so sick of Jill saying she was kicked out of Ramona’s trip. NO – SHE – WAS – NOT! Jill asked if she should leave because she saw they were not happy to see her, then, when NO ONE asked her to stay… she got the message! Everyone was SHOCKED to see her because Ramona and Bethenny called Jill about Kelly’s behavior, and Jill never said she was planning on coming… you don’t SURPRISE people after they’ve been through such a horrendous situation, and you don’t just show up when you’re feuding with 2 of those people and you barely know one of them. Plus, Jill was invited for 5 days-not 1 day, as Sonja pointed out.

      Ramona told Jill, Kelly was leaving and maybe Jill could meet her at the airport to support her… Jill KNEW Kelly would not be there! In the article Jill stated, she thought Kelly would be there to welcome her… LIAR! I hope she’s confronted about this at the Reunion.

      And, what if she really was kicked out?… So what! How many times this season did Jill tell somebody to LEAVE?

      Isn’t it funny how Jill says “systematic bullying” is not okay!… Hmmmm, isn’t that was Kelly called it? Jill doesn’t even have the right to re-cap anything about that trip… she wasn’t there! Oh but, she saw what they had becaome at the end… really? They were all sitting/laying quietly getting peticures… NOT FOR ONE MINUTE, EXPECTING TO SEE JILL!

      Also… she saw what they had become? WHO said one nasty thing to her?… Not one of them… Ramona apologized to Jill, and the others were stunned, but they didn’t say one nasty thing to Jill… she’s just a freaking LIAR!

    • B.A. says:

      From the People article:

      People: Do you think you would do this show again?
      JZ: They haven’t asked me back, so I don’t think I have to worry about that yet.

      Hope it’s true!

    • B.A. says:

      From Poster Briana- People Article. Had to post ’cause she’s so on point!

      Briana-
      Jill can’t open her mouth without lying.

      She knew Kelly was gone, and she knew that Kelly was so completely insane down there that the other women were afraid to the point that Kelly was removed in the middle of the night.

      Bullying? Jill, WE SAW it. You knew about it before you ever left NYC, because Ramona and Bethenny called you to tell you Kelly might need you, and asked you to meet her plane.

      But Jill was too busy getting more “screen time” and thinking she could control everything, and her ego was so ginormous that she assumed people she had been rude and nasty to all season would welcome her AND HER HUSBAND to a girl’s party.

      Not a mean girl?

      Jill has been nothing but nasty and 13 year olds have better manners and better behavior than this wig wearing peri-menopausal self centered braggart.

      She was nasty to everyone this season. I hope she does come back, just because she is a complete fool, and it’s fun to watch each miss step of this married-rich waste of a show off.

      It’s disgusting what Jill did on Amazon, as “Susan Saunders” and you can’t blame Bravo or editing for that one. Ugh. Trainwreck, party of one.

  17. Teresa says:

    I spoke to soon…anitabee. I seen it.

  18. Adgirl says:

    Anitabee – OK I snorted my Jack Daniels out of my nose when you said
    “According to her tweets she filmed with her PR firm on their new E! reality tv show yesterday. ”

    What a ringing endorsement for them!! I hope they don’t list Crisis Management as one of their areas of expertise.
    professional ?

  19. otaypanky says:

    Ramona talks about jill. Says that producers never told them to bring them to bring drama.

    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/04/real_housewife_of_new_york_ram.html

  20. otaypanky says:

    ON JILL ZARIN’S NEPHEW:
    He has no problem offending….DNA wins.

    Jon Wexler, the spawn of Jill Zarin’s sister Lisa, is not happy about the comments being made everywhere about his aunt and that stupid book she can’t sell.

    Instead of putting muzzles on his dear aunt and grandma, he spends a considerable amount of time answering tweets. This kid needs to get laid!

    Update: I wrote that at 5 a.m. yesterday. He’d sent me a nasty tweet overnight, after he saw my response to a woman he openly threatened. His threat?

    After the dust settles, we will deal with you
    He also threatened other women I follow on twitter in a similar fashion. Within moments of the last tweet, he blocked me!

    How proud Lisa Wexler must be of her family! First, brow-beaten into writing a book by her mother and sister, as she watches them blow her work away by behaving like the idiots they are on national television, then the kid she’ll probably have to support for life threatening women on the internet!

    Just sayin’.

    April 27th, 2010 | Tags: gloria kamen, jill zarin, jon wexler, lisa wexler, the real housewives of new york | Category: the real housewives of new york city

    And here is one of the comments:
    JENNY FROM THE BRONX
    April 27th, 2010 at 6:36 PM
    yes kudos to you darling. He sucks his own dong and then ginger laps it up.lmao. delete that.lol. He got tweeted back from me. Messing with women is so cowardly. Then again you said it right he has the right DNA.

    • Quincy IL says:

      I think the Wexler and Zarin families of New York and CT are going to go after a boat load of people. The have lawyers. Those two families are threatening.

      • otaypanky says:

        I read elsewhere that she is suing B for stealing her idea for a spin off. Don’t know if it’s true or not. I would think an attorney would tell her it’s kind of hard to own a thought.

        • Quincy IL says:

          Only Jill could come up with the concept that B’s life story belongs to Jill. That is logic from the planet Zarin. I loved B’s show. That bitch cookie has replaced Jill in the series. Cookie knows how to bite too.

          I’m glad that you are posting Otay… I look for your links.

    • little rock says:

      Did that little fucker actually say to you that after the dust settles, we will deal with you? Now, THAT’s a threat. Wonder what his mom and aunt think about that? Maybe they’re just like ASHLEY’S mom and aunt and think: oh, we’re SO proud, you’re defending your family, how sweet. Maybe john and ashley can be PRISON PEN PALS when the dust settles.

  21. Jill's dastardly plans says:

    I’d choose to be in that room with Kelly. The Jersey wives, every single one of them, make me feel like I need a long hot shower FAST.

    With Kelly, I would simply waste that 1/2 hour or hour, and compliment her hair, her teeth, her fabulous friends, her shoes, her outfit, her accessories, feed her gummy bears, and encourage her to talk about whatever idiotic thing she had to say. She’s easily appeased, just act as if she is fabulous. Danielle, like all of mob-lite, scares the crap out of me. Kelly would just bore me.

    I think Bravo wants to dump Jill, because she’s far too big for her britches, and has slammed Andy, Bravo, and thinks she runs the show. HOWEVER, she has had tons of press (just spell the name of the show right!) and they have her by the nipples here, as they can make her look as bad or as good as they want to with careful editing, so they could use her as the nasty villain OR give her a redemption arc, or simply cut her off completely if she asks for more money, saying “the public hates you.”

    Frankly, I think they are THRILLED that Amazon-gate happened. Hell, they have had more viewers this year than ever before. People may not love a trainwreck, but they slow down to watch it, or catch it on the new later.

    Jill may think she’s smart enough to film carefully next year and be the “darling” again, but we all know she is incapable of that.

    Did Bravo slap her ass this season? Oh hell yes. Did she deserve it? Oh hell yes. Have they sufficiently chastised her? Nope, contracts are coming up, and something tells me Jill is more likely to be offered less money.

    On the other hand, Bethenny saying flat out that she won’t be back if Kelly is there is not coming across as bossing Bravo or being a diva. It’s what it is, a newlywed with a young precious baby who doesn’t want that dangerous lunatic anywhere near her.

    I think Bravo would much rather have Bethenny around than Kelly. duh

  22. jillpinchesloaves says:

    Party’s Here!
    3:19 am, only the crickets chirping
    Hello?
    wake up my sweet angels…
    anyone?

  23. jillpinchesloaves says:

    Okay, well then, nite-nite.
    Get a good night’s rest and we’ll see you in the morning.
    I’m making enough hash browns to feed all y’all!

  24. jillpinchesloaves says:

    LOL, has anyone seen this twitter?

    Jill Zarin trying to repair her image is like trying to stuff a shit back in an asshole.
    3:55 PM Jun 4th via Echofon

    thesulk
    Alec Sulkin

  25. Quincy IL says:

    Jill should fire that clairvoyent. That women went after Bethenny with a vengence and the advice she gave Jill didn’t pan out well. Fire her… now before the buillding falls on Jill.

  26. moriasheehan says:

    i keep having this awful thought (keeps me up nights) and that is that RHNYC had MAJOR viewer numbers, so like smelly kelly’s PR 101, any publicity is good publicity. Bravo is making huge bucks this season, just look at the amount of bloggers. i am very afraid jill swill will be back. a lot of people love to be able to look at someone and say to them selves, “i am so better than that”. swilled jilled is the snake mesmerizing the bird. Bravo will see big profits again for S4. if they can keep Bethenny for 4th season, still swill will be there. now smelly kelly, if she is a meth addict, then i am sure she will be out. just crazy……once again, RATINGS!!!
    tell me it ain’t so, Joe.

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      Yeah, Jill will be back, imo, cuz EVERYONE is talking about her. They would want to see what she does next. Who are people not really talking about so much? Luann.

      The Jill and Alex storyline deems interesting for viewers. Can Jill repair her image? If she “behaves” the next season, even modestly, the editor may “present” her in a different light. Albeit, her tweets and behavior/persona follows suit (FB, tweets, etc) during airing the season.

      If the producers really want B back (which of course, she may be the darling of Bravo) they will certainly give Kelly the ax. Her behavior renders a danger (according to cast members that filmed with her) and they may justify this by airing more of the Virgin Island scene during a “lost episodes” version.

      Sonja’s definitely a mainstay for the show cuz folks do love her (including moi!). So for me, it’s gonna be interesting to see if Luann stays or not since the audience doesn’t care for Jen that much.

      sidebar: I swear I said I wasn’t gonna watch another season of this train wreck, but I just may indulge a lil’ next season unless I get the HELP I need, ugh!!!

  27. Quincy IL says:

    I seel in Jill’s tweets that Jill felt the Bethenny should not have allowed all this to happen to Jill because Jill would not have done it to Bethenny. Oh, my. This is all from Jill, to Jill and for Jill. Jill, the message was “Bethenny is done.” Can’t you understand three words?

  28. bethluvsben says:

    HEY,
    They better not come after me. I only did what Lynn Hudson told us all to do. Then when trouble comes she IGNORES me. I’ll roll on you like a pin LYNN.
    DO NOT DELETE PLEASE.
    Love Beth

    • anniieee says:

      Do you even pee before you post… you’re not getting much sleep…obsessing.

    • HD says:

      You sound just like an idiot. Sorry but you do. “I just did what Lynn told me” You idiot. So you do everything that everyone tells you or suggest? What a fool. Natural born idiot.

      And you will “roll” on her? You are about as threatening as Danny on the New Jersey show. Honey this is not some major case with FBI and all that. Jill is stupid and when have you EVER heard of someone getting locked up for sening a card to someone? USE YOUR BRAIN! What is wrong with you? You need mental help or something. Every time you exhale something stupid comes out. Common sense ain’t so common.

    • little rock says:

      when has lynn EVER deleted one of your posts. And it’s funny that you’re so fixated on this delete thing, because the only person who consistently deletes unpopular (to her) posts is JILLHOLE!

  29. otaypanky says:

    Here is a Quote from Jill Zarin from an Article dated March, 2010

    As for what to expect the rest of the season? “Some people who you thought were nice you may not like anymore, and some people you really hated, you’ll start to like,” Zarin says. “It’s all messed up – and it’s all real. It really is.”

    “Everything I do is real,” she adds. “I have a hard time separating ‘reality’ from ‘Reality TV.'”

    from this link
    http://www.tonic.com/article/jill-zarin-good-side-of-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-rhony/

  30. tod1963 says:

    Famecrawler.com has an article about Jill titled Jill Zarin Has A New Target: Alex McCord.

    http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2010/06/03/real-housewives-jill-zarin-has-a-new-target-alex-mccord/

    • BamaBelle says:

      Tod1963,

      Thanks for posting that article. Someone left this comment… LOL
      ——————————————————————

      Gawd, are Kelly and Jill THAT delusional!? Seems like Jill’s mouth is writing checks her ass can’t cash and Kelly is just nuts!

  31. JazzNightOut says:

    This may have been posted already, but this is a beautiful picture of Bethenny and Bryn.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2010/06/bethenny-frankel-real-housewives-is-probably-over-for-her/1

    • otaypanky says:

      oh my. that baby’s face is beautiful.

    • jillpinchesloaves says:

      This is such a precious candid photo. I love the realistic lighting; it adds such a
      ‘moment-in-time’ feel to the portrait. It is preciously endearing to see Bethenny’s entire hand cover Bryn’s tiny head. So protective, so all-encompassing. We mothers, always, always, always…remember this enraptured feeling as we hold our newborns so close to our hearts…the whole world just seems to go away in that moment and all that matters in space and time is the ‘right here, right now’ that’s cupped in our most tender embrace.

    • Olivia says:

      Where was Sonja? No mention of why she was not there. Hmmmmm.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Probably wasn’t invited. I don’t think Sonja wasn’t invited to the wedding either. I think B likes Sonja, but they aren’t actual friends.

    • BamaBelle says:

      JazzNightOut,

      OH MY GOODNESS… That is a sweet picture of Bethenny and Bryn… it’s the first picture I’ve seen of her… Thanks… (-:

  32. SallySea says:

    I am wondering if Bravo lays down ground rules prior to filming these reunion shows. I was disappointed that Alex didn’t (or couldn’t) bring up the Susan Saunders book review debacle while confronting Jill. I actually read the scathing review/ personal attack that Susan/Jill wrote about Silex and it made me sick. How clever was it of Jill that she used the name J. Samples in her tweet instead of Susan Saunders. I think Alex showed true class and restraint while discussing her issues with Jill.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      “J Samples” was the Amazon account that attacked Silex on Amazon & gave B’s book a bad review. “Saunders” didn’t. I reported the Samples troll “reviews” to Amazon, as did others.

    • DLA says:

      Well it seems the c=less has one thing right

      Money can not buy you class.

      Some like Alex are born with class, style and beauty.

      I love to say f-ck but only in the bedroom.

  33. Pantry Viewer says:

    Another reason I really do not want to see Jill on the show next season is nothing is “real” with her. You can tell that Jill and LuAnn’s scenes are so contrived and plotted out beforehand and so fake. Like Tinsley’s show “High Society”, the scenes were so scripted and not “reality tv”. I know much set up, what functions they will do, etc. But I’m not interested in watching Jill and LuAnn be contrived and fake. And what they do isn’t even interesting. It’s self-serving and boring and fake. So no more housewives for me next season, as much as I love Sonja, Alex and Ramona. Kelly is an idiot that I have always fast-forwarded through. She is self-centered, vile, vapid and stupid – not a combo I’m interested in watching.

    So now that Jill and LuAnn use this as their own soap oprah that they try and script and manipulate beforehand, I’m out! We’re done.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Oh, forgot a couple of examples. The lunch with Jill and LuAnn before Jill went to the island. Totally fake and you can tell they had plotted out their convo.

      When Jill calls LuAnn to tell her B is pregnant and needs to not “put it in the press” (OMG!), that was so fake. It was solely a vehicle for Jill to put the dig in that now B has to get married, an ugly, ugly example of her trying to trash Bethenny.

  34. LynnNChicago says:

    Seems like that conversation between Jill and her sister at the ice rink was staged, and why wasn’t that call on speakerphone?
    I know someone mentioned this already, just thinking out loud…

    • jillpinchesloaves says:

      Exactly! To me it seemed like classic “Damage Control:101” and yes, such a concerted effort to get the call ON FILM!

      And Lynn, just wanted to say get as much rest as possible and be especially good to yourself during these heated exchanges as your name gets unfairly maligned on other sites. Try to visualize yourself as a lovely octopus (the head of this site) with all the tentacles being an extension of each of us as supporting posters. We know when to put our laptops down and wrap our tentacles protectively around you. Consider yourself group-hugged!

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Oh, yes, that was completely and totally fake. So fake. Blech.

      • DLA says:

        If she is being so FAKE why do we hate her so much?

        Cause even as a fake she is hateful, uncaring, cruel and (fill in the blank) disgusting.

        She is not being FAKE. BRAVO showed her true self.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Seemed very contrived. As for the speakerphone, contrary to what Jill says, they don’t always have the other on speaker, especially if it’s to be a quick call. (Which is what Bravo producers & B thought their streetside call to Jill early in the season would be.)

      In this case, either the call was staged just for filming purposes and J was listening to “The time is…” or it was genuine and she did not want B to be heard on camera. (Just in case it didn’t go Jill’s way.) I suspect the lunch was actually arranged off camera & the scene was the set up for the audience for Jill to go from “B’s dogshit” to “Boo hoo, I miss B.”

  35. angelofdevs says:

    Jill has to shift the blame onto someone, Jill is a narcissist so she can never be at fault. Instead of taking responsibility she always shifts the focus elsewhere, usually on someone she perceives as *lesser* and therefore jealous to her mind. This is her coping mechanism.

    Jill has realized blaming Bethenny is damaging to her persona so she has chosen Alex as the villian in her delusional mind.

    This is further proof I am correct that Jill is a classic narcissist. Read more on my blog if you are interested.

    http://angelofdevs.wordpress.com

    Oh and I do not excuse her behavior because she is a narcissist, her behavior is inappropriate and needs to be corrected. It does explain why Jill behaves as she does though.

  36. jillpinchesloaves says:

    Jill never ceases to surprise/disgust me and this vile manner in which she is mercilessly going after Alex is going to end up backfiring against her, just like it did with her friendship with Bethenny. When will Jill learn? It’s not just that Jill has a tenacious pit-viper spirit, it’s that she is so seething with rage and out-of-control anger that she’s like a volcano…either smoldering or erupting. Talk about a hot mess!

    Jill’s come undone. And there’s no going back. And as much as we all enjoy hating Jill Zarin, it’s terribly unfortunate that her mother and sister have to endure such a public fiasco simply because their daughter/sister has no filter, no shut-off-valve, no awareness, no perception, and no ability to diplomatically retreat. Nope, she’s a thug dressed in couture and heels, throwin’ down gang symbols, beating on her chest, telling all of us viewers, “to step off!” SHE ONLY THINKS

  37. jillpinchesloaves says:

    SHE ONLY THINKS she’s ready to rumble.

  38. Phantom Guinness says:

    Great post Lynn, and I love your site. The comments here are so interesting, and there is so much great information passed on.

    What cracked me up her deflection, regarding Jill trying to get the other housewives to not tape with Bethany, is that Jill brings more attention to a minor story. She thinks the deflection vindicates her, but it gives yet another example of her being a giant a**hole.

    I read this story a while ago, but it was not picked up like the Amazongate or Bryn announcement stories. She tried to blame Alex, but that story could have been planted by anyone since it sounds like she pissed off a lot of people. Read for yourselves:

    http://www.timessquaregossip.com/2008/07/housewife-jill-zarin-is-desperate-bitch.html

    • anniieee says:

      Wow … interesting–we knew who she was…and now Her fabulous circle of “friends/people” know even more…. this last line at the end..really really made me happy….see below..

      Editors Note: If your at Polo this weekend, please come by and say hello and explain to us why you are so mean to such good people. On another note, I also hear the publicists have consulted a lawyer and there will be a demand not to air the footage, and possible lawsuits.
      at 6:19 PM

      • Phantom Guinness says:

        I know they did not hold back. Plus, this story is two years old. Jill complains that she was “edited unfairly” but Bravo just hid her vile behavior for two seasons. She should be grateful she wasn’t the villain for the entire run of the series.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Agreed Bravo tried for two years to make her appear nicer than she is – but bottomline – she didn’t give them anything to work with this season! She is the Mean Queen!

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Holy Smokes! Thanks for sharing this piece. I truly can’t believe she has been this wicked for so many years!

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      *slow faint*

      • shantygal says:

        That cold compress sure is getting a lot of use! Better stick it back in the freezer for the next victim.

        • Phantom Guinness says:

          LOL. You owe me a new keyboard.

          • BamaBelle says:

            WOW…

            That IS interesting. I printed it so I could read it to my daughter-in-law because her computer is broken.

            Jill is digging herself deeper and deeper. I wasn’t a fan of her in ANY season… I saw right through Jill Zarin from day one of RHONYC!

  39. Maddiegirl says:

    In addition to being sick of JZ, Krazy Kelly and the Countless, I am tired of watching the double cheek kisses. Has anyone else noticed how they are all doing it now? The non-Countess started it. So fake. I’m sure they would rather slap each other.

    I know this sounds petty, but this show has worn on every last nerve.

    Now that I got that out; I’m still on the BRAS team. I just want them to stop with the fake Luann greeting.

    • HD says:

      I am so sick of that too! It gets on my nerves. I wish it would stop too. Why the Countess tries to act like she is not a U.S. citizen kills me. You are not in Europe, dahhhhhhhhhhhling.

    • Capiche says:

      What?? I double cheek kiss everyone I meet. Yes, I picked it up in Europe but I think it’s nice way to greet. I also love how people are surprised when I do it and it takes them a few seconds to understand. Sorry!

      I also say Ciao when I’m leaving!

      • Fabulous Earth says:

        YOU TOO??????! I keep saying that I’m destined to go to Italy so I can abuse that word endlessly, lol!

        Yes, the double-kiss is definitely a Europe thing as I’m experiencing it now in Spain. I have some friends back home that always double-kiss and now I know where they get it from (they’re extensive travelers and spend lots of time in Europe).

        I think this type of greeting has extended itself into a certain social group and behavior.

        • Capiche says:

          And double kissing is VERY common in New York so it doesn’t seem all that strange to me! I forget people in other parts of the country don’t do it as often. But I went to a friend’s party in Seattle and we all did it. Maybe it’s because I run in a fabulous circle of people! LOL! (I really don’t!)

    • jillpinchesloaves says:

      That double-cheek kissing is so beyond, BEYOND annoying. I don’t want to kissy-face or be kissy-faced in such an affected, totally strange, ritualistic
      fakeness.

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        When I say, “Chow” it means I’m serving up lunch or dinner! Y’all come get it, ya hear?

        • Maddiegirl says:

          @jillpinchesloaves that is too funny. Where do you live? I’m from the midwest (MI). Yes, it is Kelly country. I guess that explains everything!

  40. floridagirl88 says:

    In an earlier thread, someone mentioned a book written by an author who tutored Ally when she was around 14. I drove quickly to my library yesterday and checked out the book. Jill has been a piece of work for some time now and while edited to show her real personality, the last chapter of Confession of a Rebel Debutante, sizes up the Zarins pretty much as we have seen them this season. Maybe S1 and S2 were a fluke, but S3 captured the real Jill. Petty, micro-managing, thoughtless, and not surprising, manipulative. Jill does nice, but as a strategy to control people. What Jill gives is what Jill takes back.

    I want to go on record to thank you Lynn for providing this great forum for those of us who have become fans of RHWONY. You have given us an intelligent and thoughtful way to vent our feelings about the “characters,” make cyber-friends and nourish our obsession with this TV show. Perhaps many of us have had a Jill Zarin in our lives and now we can let loose without fear of retaliation.

    On the other blogs there is such hate and disrespect for everyone from the show characters to the commenters to the world. I no longer post on those blogs, but come over here for the thinking person’s take on things. Sure, we get snarky over here, but it’s a good kind of snark. Oh and I am going over to Wash DC today to see Alex and Simon at their book signing. Parking is such a bitch in DC so I will have to leave early and walk far, but I so want to see them in person. Again, thanks.

    • anniieee says:

      Park at the Vienna orange or Blue line Springfield in VA and take metro in… 5 dollars for all day. Cheaper than DC… and should be a metro stop close by. Where is it? Maybe I can get my daughter to go for me.

      • floridagirl88 says:

        Borders, 600 NW 14th Street, 4:00 pm

        • anniieee says:

          Take either line and get out at Smithsonian – walk up 14th to the shoppes at 14th street…it is right past Penn. Ave across from the White House. Parking there is metered and only for 2hours so you have to run back an forth..or garage park at $17.00 plus. Wish wish wish I was there…maybe I can get my daughter to go…Have fun and bring back pictures for us all.

          • anniieee says:

            and I’m in Florida now…floridagirl…northeast corner…jax bch..

            • floridagirl88 says:

              Wow! I am from J’ville, but living in the NE.

              • anniieee says:

                wow too funny… moved here from DC in 2002– my oldest came down to JU…. She got married and had a baby… 95 goes both ways…and there was a beach…but I miss DC. NOT THE SNOW. Youngest lives 17th near Dupont.

    • GreatExpectations says:

      Wow, I can’t believe BOTH Kelly and Jill inspired book characters BEFORE they were even on the show!

  41. Capiche says:

    I’m really not sure why Jill is making Alex her primary target of hate. Maybe she needs to hate someone? She does try to act like Alex is beneath her but then why engage with all those tweets? My theory is that she’s jealous of Alex. Seriously. And this goes back to season 2. Alex has always had her number and she knows. She’s jealous because on the show Alex has replaced her as B’s close friend. And who shows up at B’s new apartment in BGM? Why, none other than Simon and Alex! She’s also jealous because as her popularity has nosedived (strong enough word?), Alex’s has skyrocketed. That RHONY promo about Alex “taking Jill out” gave the series one of it’s highest viewership until the finale. And maybe she’s a little furious too. If we take Jill at her word (and experience has taught us NEVER to do that) she told Alex to “raise her game” or else she might be dropped. Let’s say Alex did and saw that one way to do so was to go after Jill. Maybe Alex was privy to all Jill’s backroom dealing with trying to shut out Bethenny and KNEW that the producers won’t take kindly to that or for whatever reason..it shows that Alex is smarter than Jill gave her credit for. While Jill now looks like an idiot. So she’s going after Alex in all these articles and on Twitter. Has Alex ever responded to her directly? Probably not because she knows it only makes Jill look more unhinged while Alex smells like a sweet rose. But still…what does Jill have to gain by going after Alex? She’s not changing the viewers’ mind! I still don’t get it.

    • anniieee says:

      Everyone is smarter that Jill gives them credit for (cept Kelly–she get too much credit.) And Jill is just as dumb, gave herself too much creedence and no one really gave a rat’ potoot about her. Season 1 and 2 were “nice” shows with some drama– but I didn’t take a nap in the afternoon so I could stay up late..I waited for reruns. Now I can’t wait…absorb it all and so appreciate all the links, dialog and info from this site.

      Job well done Lynn and all of you. thanks so much!

    • jillpinchesloaves says:

      Jill goes after Alex because she deems her as a ‘non-entity’ and is incensed because in actuality, Alex has captured the collective hearts of the viewing public.

      • Adgirl says:

        jillpinchesloaves-
        Exactly. Alex has no value to Jill.
        Alex has no connections, social standing or wealth. I think Jill is infuriated having this lesser being on “her” show. And to top it off, Alex is well liked by the “competeting” team and the viewers.
        In Jill’s transaction based life Alex doesn’t belong.

        • Capiche says:

          I just want us to put an end to this Alex is a poor churchmouse theme that people are running with. For goodness sake, the woman shops in Cavalli and goes to the MET. And her townhouse is in a decent area in brooklyn and I believe she owns it. It may be worth around $3 million dollars in my estimation. Shocking, I know, but it may even be worth more than Jill’s apartment on the UES.

          • TLM says:

            I think the VanKempens were getting dangerously overextended with their shopping, especially after Alex lost her job. She now works for a high-end consignment store… how much could they be paying her? $175K? I can’t imagine it’s that much. I also can’t imagine what Simon makes as manager of a small hotel. But you’ll notice this year they were not shown going on any shopping sprees. They have the expense of the Brooklyn house, the two boys’ private school, and I heard they rent the 3rd floor to a tenant, which I guess is why they strangely put their new bedroom on the ground floor of the house…you have to walk through their bedroom to get to the backyard. I suspect that because Alex has some exposure now as someone dedicated to fashion, she gets a lot of freebies or large discounts. Did anyone else hear that the clothing they purchased at Blue & Cream in the Hamptons on RHONYC was given to them at a NINETY percent discount? I really get annoyed when Bravo paints a false picture like this. Duh-resa said she didn’t even spend close to what the total bill was in that children’s shop, so I wonder, did she get a major discount, or did they just put most of the things back? Either way, it pisses me off that Bravo would not show this part. That is creating a lie.

            • fredthecattravels says:

              Simon just isn’t the manager of a small hotel. He is the General Manager of a luxury boutique hotel in Midtown Manhattan which is a city that has one of the highest ADRs in the country.

              Simon easily pulls down $300,000 a year with base salary and bonus and closer to a half million in non recession years.

              Alex is a high end PR consultant and I know she makes in the six figure range.

              I know Simon’s approximate salary because I worked in the hotel business in New York and know what these GMs make.

              Simon and Alex do very well financially and I also think they are very smart with their money. They mentioned in season two that they saved their money for several years to be able to afford their renovations.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill can’t have Bethenny. Did you see how fast Jill put the hate on Alex – she didn’t say anything about the content of the message! It is clear now that Bethenny will be politely disengaged towards Jill but she will not be friends with her – as long as this continues it will always be Alex’s fault. Jill is programmed to hate instead of hurt.

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Your point is remarkable, ‘that Jill is programmed to hate instead of hurt.’
        I think you’re right. She will never process any of these societal messages her inner-circle gives to her; instead she will simply choose to hate.

  42. desertgal66 says:

    Okay, Phantom Guinness posted this link upthread (thanks, PG), but I’m gonna post it again, because I think it’s a great answer to Jill’s repeatedly patting herself on the back about how “charitable” she is.

    http://www.timessquaregossip.com/2008/07/housewife-jill-zarin-is-desperate-bitch.html

    This is appalling. I don’t care what issues someone might have with the organizers of an event or the guests – you. do. not. behave. this. way. While I am not a big fan of these type of super elite charity functions-mainly because it seems pointless to me to waste so much money to raise money-the singular purpose of any charity event is to aid the charity, not to behave like a arrogant snot.

    Trashy, JILL. Really.

    • anniieee says:

      She is an arrogant c word… cant type it..worst word for a female..but she is it…can’t think of any other female people felt this way about except Imeda Marcos. Anybody have any ideas?

      • shantygal says:

        Leona Helmsley. Come to think of it, Leona strongly resembles Gloria. Think they’re related?

        • jillpinchesloaves says:

          OMG! Long lost sisters!

          • anniieee says:

            omg same voice exactly…omg

            • ShelleyT says:

              So funny you should say that about Gloria. My sister made that same comparison to me months ago. And something is “off” with her voice. She speaks very slowly and you expect her to make some “insightful” comments. But then all you get are the ramblings of an old lady. And if she loved Bethenny as much as she said she did, and told her she was “one of her own” why didn’t she make the girls talk it out. That’s what mothers do. They don’t take sides in fights, they arbitrate them.

    • Phantom Guinness says:

      Plus, this story encapsulates Jill’s MO. She takes an event (or a show), in this case a charity event no less, that is about a group of people and tries to make it all about her. Because she has no talent and is not interesting enough to make it about her, she then needs to horn people out through gossip and slander so the focus can be on her. Jill acts like this season was an aberration, but it was actually standard fare for her. Bravo just happened to reveal it to the audience this season.

      Bravo might think Jill is ratings gold next season. For me, I was interested because this season was about the reveal of the real Jill. I was amazed each week as they began to show what a giant dirtbag she is episode by episode.

      Now that I know what a wretched person she is, I don’t need to watch her kneecap her other castmates through gossip all next season. Her whining and complaining is really not interesting enough to carry the show. Who is genius enough to attend a wedding and complain that there was no food served BEFORE the wedding?

    • little rock says:

      Does anyone know whatever came of the event? Did people in the hamptons boycott, and did the PR people retaliate? Phantom guinnes, do you know?

  43. Capiche says:

    And in response to whoever asked who would you rather be stuck in a room with: Kelly or Danielle? It’s really a no-brainer. Danielle for sure! She’ll be entertaining at least and while the Manzos say she’s a liar, can you imagine the fantastical stories she’ll spin? It’ll make the time fly. And honestly, if I were to choose Kelly, I will strangle her! Just trying to understand her on TV is infuriating enough! Doing so in person? Good Lord.

    And then with my luck I’d end up sharing a jail cell with Danielle anyway because we know she’s one percieved insult away from going back there!

  44. Olivia says:

    Jill’s going after Alex is merely a cover for her own behavior. Without someone to blame Jill is standing out there alone.

    In Jill’s warped sense of inclusion, Alex never had anything to offer. No real social contacts, no fake title, no home in the Hamptons, and throw in a husband who was kind of kookie, she was never that interested in Alex. But as Alex began to engage with her more, mostly negatively, Jill was taken aback.

    Lu Ann kisses her butt. Kelly calls her a “mentor”. Ramona “forgives”. Alex does none of those things and took her by surprise. She saw Alex as meek, someone she could afford to overlook until Alex found her voice. With Alex there is no sham “friendship” to preserve so who else is she going to go after to blame? Putting the screws to Alex takes the heat off Jill as she has found the one person she thought would remain silent against her jibes and it turned out quite differently.

    She knows that Alex is not as easy to bend in her direction so she has crafted her into the status of enemy in order to give the few fans that she has left a reason to overlook her own egregious behavior.

  45. Delia says:

    One of Jill’s structured and generic answers that is driving me NUTS, is when she is confronted with an accusation of FACT she answers

    ‘And so do we all’

    ie about trying to get others not to film with Bethenny, and about going to the press with dirty stories.

    She never takes responsibility for her actions, instead she just plays ‘well so and so can do it, so why cant I’….She doesn’t OWN any of her actions but she tries to make excuses for them and I think that is her ultimate down fall and why she has lost so bad in the public eye. IMHO

    • jillpinchesloaves says:

      Excellent point. The ‘so do we all’ will be her final undoing.

      • ShelleyT says:

        And when was the last time a grown woman used the phrase
        “We’re not friends” or “Take me the way I am or we can’t be friends”?
        Is this girl in third grade??

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The way Jill responds to confrontation is a learned response – at her mother knee perhaps. The “and so do we all” is a way of saying you do it to..so I am not as bad as you say. Deflecting, denying, destroying.

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Windy City—
        Re: Jill
        You wrote, …”Deflecting, denying, destroying.”
        So that’s where Jill gets her “TRIPLE D’S” from!

        Hmmm, that is a lot of hot mean meat to be packin’.

  46. jillpinchesloaves says:

    The Devil wears Loubou’s!

    • shantygal says:

      JPL- this cracked me up and I had this vague memory of a Southpark episode featuring Satan as a cross-dresser. Anyone remember that or has my demented mind just conjured up an image to appease me?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        My teenage son said it would be cool if the Southpark creators took on Housewives…….I wonder if they are on the radar yet – go Jill go!

  47. WindyCityWondering says:

    Hey BRAVO new show idea – take the gaudiest, meanest, most hated wife from all the franchises and but them on one show together – REAL SKANKWIVES of AMERICA.

    • Capiche says:

      I have an idea! Move Jill over to the Real Housewives of New Jersey! Think about it! She already has a grating accent, her taste in clothes, furniture and hair tends toward the gaudy and I think even Bobby might fit in. He looks strangely greasy and dapper enough! And I would love to see her and Danielle go at it. They may even become friends because Jill LOVES the underdog! And the biggest advantage, I wouldn’t have to watch Jill intruding on my favorite housewife show anymore! Win-win for everyone! Probably except for Teresa, but she wouldn’t understand Jill’s insults anyway.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        She can buy Teresa’s house at a bargain price.

      • shantygal says:

        They should send her to ATL. NeNe will take her down. Just read UpperWestSideDude’s posts from last night (on the previous blog) a.k.a. “The Corona Papers”.

    • shantygal says:

      She’d be perfect for OC too! The two uber-biotches Vicki & Jizz duking it out, christians vs. jews with Jesus Barbie & Pawn Preacher and Lynne C. as her underdog/protege.

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        Let ’em all move into the house together and merge the filming between “Bad Girls” and “Real Housewives.”

        • jillpinchesloaves says:

          Jill would be all like, “I run New York, Bitch!” Throw in the original Bad Girl a.k.a. “I Run LA, Bitch!” and let her administer some major ass whoopings on sassy-fried Jill.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill has her JetBlue connection – she could fly to all the show cities and give lessons to the girls from the booooooook!

  48. anniieee says:

    I have another “comment” that is bugging me…maybe someone can answer.. In one article, they ask Jill about Jennifer and Sonja (I love Sonja) …she gives this highfaluting answer all about Jennifer and totally ingnores Sonja. Never says a word. She hasn’t said a word to Sonja..at all…or about Sonja at all… I think she thinks that everyone took to Sonja so well, it scared her. Even with the Memorial Day “incident” Jill didn’t say anything(or did she) and that would have been a goldmine for Jill to slams another competitor down for her Queen B spot. I think she is afraid of Sonja and Sonja’s connections–so she just pretends Sonja doesn’t exist.

    • HD says:

      She doesn’t talk about Sonja because Sonja used to married to man whose family is legendary with old money and high class distinction. Sonja gets into places that Jill only dreams of going to. Sonja is above her in status and therefore she is never going to talk about her. Jill wants those connections so she is going to be cordial and friendly to her just because she wants what she has.

    • jillpinchesloaves says:

      Whomp-THERE IT IS!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill knows she isn’t in Sonja’s fabulous circle of friends – so she ignores her.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Oh, Jill paid for Jenn to do her party therefore she is of a higher status to Jenn. Sonja tried to draw Jill out at the Cocktails & Couture at her house like a gracious hostess would do. Jill looked like a toad and she knew she was out of her league.

          • Need a Hobby says:

            Let’s do a Jill: do you really think Jill paid Jen to do her party? Bravo paid!

            At Sonja’s Jill had calculated the square footage, the cost per, and the value of the furnishings. (And, no doubt the net worth of the guests as well.) I bet it was disconcerting when Jill realized just how far out of her league Sonja was.

        • tracylyn42 says:

          in the beginning intro when Jill says I run with a fabulous of people, wouldnt most people say circle of friends, but not Jill.. they are only people.. she has no friends. she didnt want that fabulous circle of people suing her for slander by saying they were friends of hers..ruining their good name!!

  49. Olivia says:

    What really gets to me is the lack of intelligence in some of the bloggers and posters who repeatedly “cheer on” the likes of Jill, Kelly, Danielle, Ashley, and Theresa. It boggles my mind that anyone, anywhere would be able to find anything coming from their “performances” that would herald support on most levels.

    They represent the worst in most aspect of human beings yet there seems to be a group dedicated to praising and validating their atrocities by messaging their support.

    One not be a Bethenny or Alex fan to be able to extract the from these women their unyielding “self love” which has translated into their odious behavior yet there are sympathizers who continue to back up their stupidity by offering “love you” as a reward. Apparently it is deemed acceptable to speak and behave far outside the norm and find acceptance among those who are either stupid beyond belief or share the same value system.

    Scary.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO – some people aspire to what these ladies say or do or have, they relate to them in some way. I think it is responding to the materialism shown but not to the character of these women. Like I may want a kitchen like Teresa’s (not really) but it doesn’t mean I have to like her as a person….

      • shantygal says:

        I do want a kitchen like Alex’s. I know, not the point of your post, but I really love her color scheme and I have an older house like hers, that presents challenges so I’m always looking for ideas on what to do with my outdated kitchen.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Mine was old too. But by keeping same footprint, same cabinets (adding a few more) you can do it! Adding glass tile backspashes and granite countertops was phase one. Replacing appliances was phase two. It took two years but it looks wow now and the costs were manageable.

          • shantygal says:

            Oooo girl, that’s what I want to do (glass tile backsplash) and will also have to do it in stages. Wish I could see before & after pics of your kitchen, sounds nice. Sorry OT everyone.

    • shantygal says:

      It does boggle the mind, but as the saying goes “it takes all kinds”. Things would get pretty boring if they weren’t there to entertain us.

      Here’s the thing that J and her ilk do not get. We are all here to learn. Little does she know that she is the true underdog in the big scheme of things. One could almost look at her as a case study, a real life “The Truman Show”. The public obsessed to see what will happen, will she ever “get it”? Does she realize that this is filmed for entertainment, not because she is fabulous and people want to be like her?

      • jillpinchesloaves says:

        I’ve never witnessed such a blatant sense of entitlement, EVER.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        We know it is entertainment first, but we like to learn as well. Jill is not someone we will learn anything positive from (unless it is how not to act), hence our unity here! I’d trade her to another team if we could get someone else like Alex or Sonja.

    • anniieee says:

      Very scary…Look at our world today… our schools.. these are the people that have raised these children.

    • Phantom Guinness says:

      I also think these bloggers do it for access. I am sure her “PR” people represent other celebrities that these bloggers would really like access to. They write a positive story about Jill and then they get access to someone else.

    • Jillousyness says:

      I think it goes toward the celebrity aspect of it. When you can ‘talk’ to these people that are on tv via their fb pages, twitter or book signings they feel like they have gotten near some one important. They are easily swayed by their phoniness or personal words. They aren’t truly seeing the person nor do they want to. They want to believe that they (the person in the spotlight) would really be friends with them and care about them. It’s all a delusion.

  50. Adgirl says:

    I wish someone would give Jill her own show! With Michael Lohan and Jon Gosselin (remember her lunching last summer in the Hamptons with them?).

    Celebrity rehab except for people who self-sabatoge through the press.
    Get a PR guru to perform an intervention and confront them how they are destroying themselves and their families with their idiotic public antics.

  51. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wondering again – at the Reunion – does it seem that the couches are further apart than normal? Are they expecting someone to launch a physical attack? Is there some big burly linebacker type guy across from Andy poised to tackle should Kelly launch herself at BRAS? And why are the couches so close to Andy’s chair that Jill can’t even get her massive assive between them when she needs to run away?

    • shantygal says:

      Good point, and yes, maybe they are afraid of attacks. We see Ramona up in J’s face accross the set, stomping at her.

  52. Olivia says:

    My neighbor, who is the only other person I know who watches this show, offered her own brand of insight. Actually, she despises the entire cast so beware.

    But her take is that the show will indeed go on next season with most of the same cast onboard and since Bravo develops a “theme” for them to unite over, she says it will be the reigniting of the Bethenny/Jill friendship with all other cast members all “working” toward that conclusion.

    Reason she gives is that basically NY has run its course and with Bravo creating a series in DC and Houston/Dallas, they need room on the schedule to hold the expansion.

    Since Bethenny has not been officially ruling out further participation, it may only be Kelly who departs thus opening the “storyline” for a “happily ever after” conclusion that will appeal to the “fans”. Jill will agree as she wishes to “rehabilitate” her awful image and Bethenny will probably follow suit as it shows her “generosity” toward someone who is viewed unfavorably.

    If she is correct, then I have no interest in watching them shop at Toys R Us for Baby Bryn or shown handholding and kvetching about the past. The imagery is much to calculated.

    Sometimes “water under the bridge” is meant to heal but often that same water overruns the banks and real harm happens that is unrepairable.

    I hope my neighbor’s assessment is all in her head.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ramona said it off the bat at the reunion when Andy asked – this season got dark………..Jill sucked all the joy and fun out of this season. I wish they would have a camera on each wives so we can see their reaction to what is being said.

    • anniieee says:

      me 2… I wouldnt watch it…you cannot redeem Jill or Kelly…that water is over the banks and slinging its mud into the basement.

  53. aquamarinecandy-o says:

    Great blog Lynn, I have been following it for quite some time now — really enjoy all the comments on here as well. KADOOZ to everyone! LOL (Love Ramona and the rest of TEAM BRAS!!) They are hilarious and real.

    I am from Canada, so unfortunately RHONY has not aired in Canada yet and I cannot view the video clips on Bravotv.com, but I have been following Season 3 with some youtube clips and of course blogs and recaps. I LOVE RHONY!

    I am appalled at Jill’s behaviour. I did like her in Seasons 1 and 2, but even then there were hints at the me-me-me behaviour and dissing others….Ramona’s cooking party (who cares if she wasn’t invited? It’s not like she was BFFs with Ramona – ever!), the tennis matches (bringing Team Jill to intimidate people in Season 1 and then fighting with Mario about Season 2’s rematch – LOVE Mario!!), the charity event – dissing both Ramona and Bethenny and making it all about herself instead of Ally and the actual charity, dissing Brad at the apartment re-do photo shoot and treating him like a sideliner when he was basically in charge of the entire project, feeding Cindy Adams “stories” about Silex at the beginning of Season 2, bossing Bobby and Ally around, being unappreciative of expensive gifts, etc etc etc.

    I have seen Jill, LuAnn and Kelly in person. My husband and I were in NYC in mid-April, and I had seen on twitter (via people.com) that Jill was going to be at the JC Penny Denim Drive event at Manhattan Mall. At that time, I had read several online reports and blogs about Jill’s behaviour at the beginning of Season 3, but I was still a “fan”, so to speak. So we go the Denim Drive, and LuAnn arrives first. We met her and I have to say — as pretentious and uppedity as she appears on camera, she is actually very nice and comfortable in person (and I don’t like phony people! I am pretty good at pegging phonies! LOL) I was surprised as I expected her to be all “Dahling” and “my luv”, snobby etc but she was very nice, we told her we were from Canada so she chatted about her Dad (who is French Canadian), she was drinking a Tim Horton’s coffee (which is HUGE in Canada — Tim Horton’s is like our national coffee chain) and happily posed for a photo. I was impressed that she took the time to do that and didn’t rush off or make us feel like we were wasting her time. I think it was Bethenny (?) who said that the Countess is totally different in person as to how she portrays herself on camera. I agree. I was pleasantly surprised.

    Then, Kelly walks in. She is super TALL. She was actually dressed in a very nice green dress with heels but she continually was pushing her hair out of her face and avoiding direct eye contact with people. She had a security person with her so I didn’t bother going up to her and meeting her, I had never liked her (especially not now given what had aired from Scary Island later on!!) and her constant playing with her hair was getting on my nerves. She is EXACTLY the same as portrayed on camera, down to the “Hi-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” and the giggles.

    Then Jill arrives. She was about 1/2 hour late for the Denim Drive (even Kelly was on time! that was a first!) and when she arrived, she immediately stomped over to LuAnn and Kelly with this pissed off look on her face (she was wearing way too much of the dark eye makeup) and was immediately bitching to them about something. I wasn’t quite within earshot of what she was saying, but you could tell by the look on her face that she was NOT HAAAAAPPPPPPY and I did hear her cursing. Ugh. I was a little taken aback by this, so I told my husband I didn’t want to meet her after all. I was thinking “OMG, the blogs WERE right about her!! What a bag!!!”

    So we follow them up the escalator and immediately, Jill switched to her public persona…..the fake smile and loud yappy voice, it was like a light switch went on and she resorted to the camera happy Jill. We didn’t stay too long at the Denim Drive after that. It wasn’t until after we got home from our vacation and I read up more about Amazongate (which I discovered happened around the time of the Denim Drive so she was probably bitching about that to LuAnn and Kelly!!) and then Babygate and the rest of what happened during Season 3 that I realized that Jill is definitely a piece of work. Yowza!!!

    Needless to say, good thing I didn’t buy her book, I was going to but after I saw her in person, I didn’t…..I did buy Silex’s book though and I did buy LuAnn’s. Both are fun reads.

    • Olivia says:

      Hopefully the day will come when someone pulls the plug on her public appearances. She thrives on this attention and feeds off the vibes of those willing to show up to see her.

      That day can’t arrive soon enough!

    • Katiecoo says:

      Wow, thanks for that first hand account! Very interesting, esp the part about the Countess…to me, she could redeem herself (she will need to somehow get disconnected from Jill, even politely). Thanks for all the details!

    • shantygal says:

      Thanks for this real life account candy. These are my favorite posts, because they are true experiences from non-fame seeking viewers. Just like CG’s (Cystic Gal) post about her attending Jill’s Brookline book signing. No producers or cameras to blame, Jill is a walking, breathing real life bad edit.

      • aquamarinecandy-o says:

        You’re welcome! Judging by what I have read about LuAnn since we returned home from NYC, I think she could redeem herself, it seems like she was distancing herself a bit from Jill towards the end of the season, especially when she started dating her new bf. I didn’t really get the impression that Jill, LuAnn and Kelly are all buddy-buddy. They film together, make public appearances and know some of the same people in their social circles, but I think they are more acquaintances than friends. LuAnn doesn’t need Jill now that she has her new boyfriend. And no one really ever gets through to Kelly.

        LuAnn is very pretty in person and tall. Jill is very short, she was wearing heels (at least 4 inches) but Kelly and LuAnn still towered over her as they both were wearing heels too! haha

        I really wanted to meet Alex and Simon while we were in NYC, but we had just missed them by a week, I believe they were in Florida on their book tour when we were in NYC. Their book had only been released for a few weeks at that time. Kadooz to them for their success! I didn’t care for them much in Season 1, but I started liking them in Season 2 and definitely in Season 3. Reading their book is very interesting too, especially about their childhoods (particularly Simon’s) and raising their kids in Brooklyn. They are so lucky to have found each other and they always have each other’s backs (even if Simon doesn’t always catch on to what a wingman is! haha).

        • anniieee says:

          wow thanks so much for sharing. That was terrific!

        • Squirrels says:

          Ok, I have to know….

          Is she really a size 1?

          • aquamarinecandy-o says:

            No, she is definitely shorter and thinner in person than how she appears on TV but she is definitely not a size 1. More towards size 4-6, which is still skinny.

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    • Need a Hobby says:

      That’s a great recounting of your experience. Thanks for sharing your observations of these women.

  54. WindyCityWondering says:

    Why I never liked Jill Zarin starting from first season and show. When I was little and would walk with my grandmother down the streets of Manhattan – I was facinated by the Jill type. Flashy, loud and seeming so special and important – the hair, the clothes, the jewelry! My grandmother would say “stop staring that is not nice and I will take you to the circus if you want to look at that”. God rest her soul, I get it now!

  55. Adgirl says:

    I don’t think RHNY is winding down. The ratings are amazing and Andy/Bravo love having the show in their home turf. There are a lot of NY based celebs who watch this trainwreck and even appear on WWHL to comment on it.

    Jill has been the ratings rainmaker so I don’t see her going anywhere. If anything Bravo will continue to punish her by highlighting her atrocious behavior.

    I can see OC going away. It’s a total vapid bore and everyone is broke.

    NJ will get new cast members next year because the ratings were huge last season so Bravo will try to retool it. Too bad about the Juicy’s going BK – it’s pretty hard to be the stage-mom table-tossing heroine if you are busy applying for jobs at Walmart.

    ATL – Has anyone seen Nene’s bad nose job? I wonder if she did it before or after filming. She looks terrible. And she’s divorcing Greg and shacking up with a former Falcon NFL player who is a gross guy. She’s broke too.
    DeShawn (former ATL) is getting dumped by Eric. Heard Lisa is gone this year (good – I hate her). I love Kandi. The rest can go to hell.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      All the shows are in need of some corrective treatment by Bravo. The debut of replacement housewives probably makes certain current cast members very nervous. The balance needed to make an entire show watchable is missing from NJ (one bitch can not take on all of the cast and have no one to socialize with – good addtion in Kim G but bad addition in Ashley. On the OC, there were too many blondes (which was more about physical appearances than personality) doing too many blonde things. Atlanta is just a hot mess (being corrected with Kandi coming in and Lisa going out). And NY needs more readjustment (Sonja made the cut, Jenn probably won’t, Jill isn’t a team player or watchable anymore, Bethenny got rewarded and Kelly is following on Jill’s heels as unwatchable/dangerous). Some franchises should be shut down, some should be retooled and some new cities would be welcomed (LIKE CHICAGO!) additions. But like everything in life – too many is too much!

      • anniieee says:

        Nice girls do finish first… Kandi Burress has the most votes as the favorite. Are you listening Bravo?

  56. ramona_coaster says:

    I guess we’ve seen so far how competitive Jill Zarin is with the other ladies especially when Alex and Simon gets media coverage like the article in New York Magazine or Bethenny getting a new show. I wonder how many shades of red she could change if the other cast members have more twitter followers than her. So far as of 12 noon today the stats are as follows:

    Jill: 74,016
    Alex: 35,996
    Ramona: 35,497
    Sonja: 16,779
    Simon: 15,350

    Bethenny: 182,108 (no way Jill can beat Bethenny)

    How about a twitter campaign to get the other cast members more twitter followers than Jill? I didn’t include Jennifer, Luann and Kelly cause they seem to be more like Jill’s zombie followers.

  57. Hey Lynn, great blog.
    I read it for the first time a couple days ago and now I can’t go a day without checking in to see whats going on.
    I have a blog too, but there are like 2 pages in it, so it’s not interesting yet.
    I’ve only posted here a couple times before in the past, but this morning I had a thought and your blog was the first place I though of coming to.

    Maybe Jill takes xanax, and that’s why she has memory problems?
    Andy did ask the ladies if anyone had brought any xanax or valium.
    I take xanax sometimes and it most definitely has the ability to seriously wipe out your memory.
    It’s just a thought, although Jill never looks particularly mellow or relaxed, so I don’t know.

    • RileyKitty says:

      I prefer to think she just can’t keep her lies straight & uses poor memory as an excuse. Maybe she could use a Xanax though. Anyone who thinks they are constantly ambushed, attacked, & sabotaged needs to chill. IMO.

      • Olivia says:

        Like every guilty defendant who takes the witness stand who offers “I have no recollection”, Jill is employing the same excuse.

        “I can’t remember” is a handy line when backed into a corner.
        Deny, deny, deny.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill’s drug is hate. And the girl is seriously addicted and possibly overdosing!

  58. Olivia says:

    Can’t comment on the OC or Atlanta series as I never watched them. Just the NY and NJ series which made my head hurt. But it sounds like the same old formula used on every franchise of the Housewives, big tits, big hair, big mouths, product pushing, skimpily clad clowns.

    Jill’s relevance is shot to hell. What can they do to manage a storyline around her? She has already shown she is untrustworthy and any form of “rehab” is not going to believed by the audience. Interactions with Kelly are boring. Interactions with Lu Ann are amazingly boring. And her constant make up sessions with Ramona are hypocritical. She is already on record for despising Silex and to make them the enemy is not going to go over too well.

    That leaves Sonja who is the wild card. Jill cannot compete with Sonja’s sexuality. Jill is virtually unable to change who she really is and the audience is wise enough to have identified it. Jill without the backbiting and sniping just isn’t Jill.

    • ShelleyT says:

      So…Jill needs to “Get A Hobby!” Her daughter will go off to college, she doesn’t work at the fabric store, her parents live in Florida. Nobody needs her! She can rehabilitate her image. Maybe she should volunteer at an animal shelter, feed the homeless, become President of her Hadassah group. Any other ideas?? As long as she doesn’t try to become a singer, an actress or a dancer.

  59. lillybee says:

    I hate to say this but this season Jill has managed to make Vicki (OC) look like a saint.

  60. Olivia says:

    Jill Zarin really, really, really needs this show in order to breathe. Without it she has nothing to offer.

    Bethenny has her own business and a new life. Ramona has her own business to run.
    Alex too has a career of her own. Kelly is content to let her head drift in the clouds. Who knows with Lu Ann, but I doubt she is staking her entire life on this series. Sonja has money problems but I have a feeling that she would be quite capable of surviving without this show.

    Not so Jill. She has dedicated herself to the publicity which feeds her ego and I think she would suffer immensely if the access was cut off. With nothing to offer by way of “talent”, she is dependent upon this exposure that allows her to say “do you know who I am?” when it suits her.

    Chances are that she has outlived her “fame” in the Hamptons and is no longer the “grande dame” she has allusions of being. Jill needs this show as much as she needs oxygen to live. Many of those Hampton socialites are billionaires who avoid publicity at all times. I am sure many of them view her as obnoxious as the rest of us.

    Don’t count her out. She “needs” this show more than we can ever imagine.

    • aquamarinecandy-o says:

      @Olivia – On the New York Social Diary website, Jill and Ramona have been photographed together at events and with the same friends, especially during the summer at the Hamptons. I wonder if any of that will change now this summer, given what has transpired this past year.

      As much as I don’t care for Jill’s antics, I do feel sorry for her Dad, Sol and for her sister, Lisa….they must be so embarrassed, they seem like they just do their own thing in life…..Jill and Gloria are another story.

      • Olivia says:

        Notice that her father does not participate in any of her segments? Just sort of passes through the scene. Living with Glam Gloria must be excrutiating.

        It is no secret that I do not trust Ramona. IMHO she is another Jill but less malignant. She says one thing but means another down the road. I think Mario speaks the truth about this so called “friends forever” relationship which is why I like him. His honesty is refreshing.

        I give Ramona credit for looking 20 years younger and she is an attractive woman. But I am one of the few on this blog who does not trust her as far as she can be thrown. Jill has said and done some pretty rotten things to her and yet she continues to be friends. Two peas in a pod.

        • aquamarinecandy-o says:

          I’ve noticed that too (both about Sol and about Jill an Ramona’s “friendship”) ….I wonder if they both have dirt on each other or if it is because they do have the same friends in the Hamptons and in NY so they don’t want their little fights interfering with that since they are bound to run into each other at the same events….not sure. I think there is more of a backstory than what was presented in Season 1, when Jill claimed she didn’t know Ramona that well, but in Season 3 they say they have known each other for 15 years. Ramona probably knew Jill and her first husband way back when….there could be a few stories there, who knows.

          I do like Ramona, she is self-made and is good-crazy (not Kelly crazy), she likes to have fun and looks amazing for being 54 years old. Mario is awesome and they have raised Avery well. You never know what is going to come out of Ramona’s mouth, that’s for sure…sometimes mean, sometimes nice but she will always call it. She was totally right when she told Bethenny in Season 2 that she was Jill’s underdog….no one took her seriously then, and now it turns out she was right. I admit I don’t get how she can stay friends with Jill, but there is obviously more to the story there. I definitely wouldn’t be friends with Jill if she continually pulled stuff like that. I think Mario just puts up with it because he loves Ramona.

          • Olivia says:

            I think there is a bond there between them since having read that book written by Ally’s tutor in which she mentions Jill’s friend “Ramona” as possibly being interested in hiring her, and considering that this took place 4 years ago, it more or less describes something more than just a fleeting friendship.

            My impression is that they lean on that excuse of not being that close when it suits their purpose. In other words, if Jill acts like a snake then Ramona downplays it, and when Ramona acts like a jerk then Jill does the same.

            Which is why I don’t trust either of them. People who treat each other like these two would never be “friends” unless they share the same traits.

            • aquamarinecandy-o says:

              I definitely want to read that book! Hopefully the library has it. Well said, Olivia.

          • I totally understand Ramona and Jill’s friendship because I have friendships that are just like this. When you are a part of the same social circle as someone, you are forced to be around them weather you like it or not. There are plenty of women I would never see or talk to again if it were up to me, but it’s not up to me to decide who gets invited where and who is friends with who, so as long as I HAVE to be around these women, I forgive and forget and play nice. It makes life so much easier.
            I don’t think either of the women claimed to be best friends for 15 years. I think they’ve known each other socially for 15 years. Dinners, lunches, tennis games etc. But they were never close like J and B were. And I think that’s why Ramona can always forgive so easily, because Jill isn’t that important or significant to her so it’s easier for her to let things go. There are plenty of women in my social circle who do bitchy, mean, rude things, but I let it go bc (1) I don’t really care enough about them to get all that mad over it, (2) I have a choice to hold a grudge and create drama and tension at the next party, or let it go, and have fun with them. I choose option 2 every time. There are only two women in my life who I care enough about that they would be able to hurt me to the point where I would never forgive them and never get over it.
            So I get where Ramona is coming from. Also, even if you only know someone socially, after 15 years there is going to be some sort of bond there weather that person is a good friend or not. I think R and J have had their frenemies thing going for a while and I don’t think it makes Ramona look bad – quite the opposite actually. I admire that there is at least one woman on these shows that seems capable of forgiving and forgetting. Bc the rest don’t seem to know how.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        I do not feel sorry for any of them. Lisa made some pretty ugly remarks about Bethenny that sounded pre-planned between her and Jill during some book interview, Lisa vilely pointing out that Bethenny’s wedding wasn’t real and just for TV. It was vile and so is she to participate with Jill in what was done to ruin another person’s livelihood.

        I also don’t feel sorry for them for feeding the ego that is Jill.

        • aquamarinecandy-o says:

          @Pantry Viewer – I didn’t know Lisa made those remarks about Bethenny… yikes! That was rude.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill’s behavior isn’t Hampton style – she may be invited to charity events because Bawby will write the check. Wondering if there will be Hampton episodes next year….kind of hard to film if no one will talk to you at a party……Come to think of it -First season was charity events, last year was at her house with her mommy or at another wife’s house or on a boat.

      • aquamarinecandy-o says:

        I think there will be some Hamptons scenes in Season 4, however, the focus will be on Sonja, Ramona and LuAnn, who all frequent the Hamptons regularly…..Ramona and LuAnn own property there. Does Sonja own property in the Hamptons? (I did not include Kelly as I would prefer for her not to return to RHONY).

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jill ownes property too. I think Kelly might and Alex has rented a house for the season. My question is will they be limited to filming at their homes and not at public events as much.

          • aquamarinecandy-o says:

            Didn’t Jill and Bobby sell their Watermill house? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe I remember reading somewhere that they had sold the property but retained the rights to stay at the house for part of the summer between 2007-2009? Or was it only for 2007-2008?

            Kelly definitely owns property in the Hamptons (or Gilles Bensimon owns it…possibly the house could be in joint names).

            • emt2 says:

              yup. they sold the house before season1 aired but they were able to spend 2 summers there. the summer that Bethenny stayed with them was the last summer they had in the house.

              if jill is so rich, why didn’t she buy a new Hampton’s house? Her fabulous group of friends that she runs with all own homes in the Hamptons.

              I think that Jill and Bobby are having some serious financial problems that the pressures of the show are exacerbating.

  61. iceNfire says:

    OT _ Good morning – My husband came home with a giant bag of Hershey’s Chocolate and I went ballistic. He’s Asian ( Asian Culture ) trying to explain this to him is too hard, so I told him it’s an American pass time. lol – Mar’s is better than Hershey’s!

    Sponsors of Rhony
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    Going up thread to read catch up with you later.

  62. anniieee says:

    Heading to the beach…. will take me hours to catch up when I get back. Have a wonderful Sunday everyone!

    • shantygal says:

      Jealous! I’m land locked and am out to weed the garden. Maybe I’ll play in the sprinkler.

      • Adgirl says:

        Haha! I’ve been cutting, dragging & hoeing a 6 ft x 200 yad strip of my driveway for the past 4 weeks. Blackberries and other horrifying vines. I’ve lost about 7 lbs and look buff!
        I run inside for my breaks and peek at what you guys are up to!

        TMI- I’m leaving today for another legal meeting in another part of the state. We’ve been harrassed and sued by Lynne Curtin type grifters for the past 3 years. Only the guys a stalker nut too. Costs us a fortune. They’re trying to force us thru fatigue into giving them a payment as go-away money. We will spend every single dime on lawyers before they get anything!! Next up depositions. Fun!

        I take my aggressions out on the yard and this message board.
        Thanks Jill Z for being a cunt-mouth. And thanks Lynn for giving me a venue to vent on!

        • anniieee says:

          I remember you talking about it. And that’s why you hate grifters..understandably so. I will send the angels and saints your way this week and hopefully that Karma wheel will knock them in the ass. Keep us posted, we will be thinking of you!

      • Where the Garden Grows (not jill's yard, nothing wants to be in that dirt) says:

        Shantygal,
        Lay news paper (black and white print only) two ply thick around your plants, then cover with pine straw, grass, or leaves. It is biodegradable. Just till it in next year. You will never have to weed again.

        More time to play in the sprinkler. Yayyyyyyyy.

  63. Katiecoo says:

    This has been probably said before but watching the BRAS in St. John is totally like a Sex and the City episode:

    Sonja (Samantha – duh)

    Bethenny (Carrie)

    Alex (Miranda)

    Ramona (Charlotte–she gets so shocked at the sex talk!).

    That show could be so fun with that 4some. And it must seethe Jill that her ONLY involvement with that trip that bonded them so and was so fun, was being pest.

  64. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill should practice her facial expressions in her 360 degree mirror – her smile is not genuine…ever! Stephen King would have a field day describing how the hate oozes out of every pore and her tears are like acid.

    • emt2 says:

      Jill looks like a crow sometimes, especially when she is angry or sad. It’s really ugly.

      Kelly is another one that needs to control her facial movements because she looks like a rabid dog when she is angry and snarling.

  65. Char212 says:

    Gloria’s been touched on a little but I’d like to discuss her a little more. Awhile back I read in an article where Jill said something like, “Everyone wishes they had a Jewish mother,” Well, that set my blood boiling. After seeing how Jill has turned out I’ll be forever grateful for my Irish mother. If my mom were alive today I’d put her against Gloria any day! And once more, my mom would put Gloria to shame. There is no way I’d go to Gloria for advice, ever. I wouldn’t even ask her what kind of dog food to buy.

    I would like to think that Gloria has told Jill that she’s disappointed in her behavior and to knock it off but for some reason I don’t see that happening. I know if I acted the way Jill is acting my mom would be on the phone so fast telling me that she’s ashamed of my behavior and to stop it acting like that and really let me have it. I know if I saw my daughter behaving that way I’d be telling her to shut her mouth and apologize.

    Another thing that bugs me (and this is petty I know) but Gloria colors her hair way to dark for her complexion and age. She looks like a zombie. With her hair being so dark and her skin being so light it makes her look like a washed out ghost.

    • I’m surprised Kelly isn’t afraid of Gloria since she seems to have such a phobia of pale skin and black hair or eye makeup.

      I bet Gloria was one of those mothers who told her daughters how wonderful and perfect they were no matter what they did. They were always smart and right, and everyone else was always stupid and wrong.
      You can just tell by the way Jill acts that that’s how she was raised.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I have always found Gloria to be an annoying person (you can clearly see where Jill gets her shit from). My grandmothers are jewish and irish – both come from different background but the message to me was always the same! Be nice, be kind, be fair, be thankful and always work hard. Both had different expressions for those life lessons and both taught by example.
      Gloria is so tit for tat score keeping, pretend to rise above it, pretend to be better than others – pretend long enough and then you can’t see what is real. She is like Jill’s justification for bad behavior. And she does look scary crazy too!

      • Char212 says:

        Exactly! Being Jewish doesn’t automatically make you a good mother. That’s obvious with the way Jill has turned out. Her behavior is a good testament as to Gloria’s mothering skills and it’s not because she Jewish. It’s because she messed up…BIG TIME!!!

        • desertgal66 says:

          What annoys me about Gloria is that she seems to be so superficial. I can’t help but think that Jill’s self described “perfect” childhood was actually composed of endless admonishments from Gloria about maintaining a ‘perfect’ facade, only associating with the ‘right’ people, dating and marrying the ‘right’ boy, wearing the ‘right’ kind of designer label, etc, etc. I think she was the type of mother who sent her daughters to college, not to encourage them to higher education, but to ‘catch’ a ‘catch’. I also have little doubt that Gloria dismissed anyone who disagreed with her as “anti-Semitic”, and looked down on tradespeople and anyone she considered ‘lesser’ than herself, which was probably quite a lot of people.

          Jill is a JAP, and Gloria, I think, is why.

          Currently, I think Gloria assumes the facade of a wise and benevolent Jewish mother, but I don’t think there is much behind it.

          I had to laugh at her “never wear chiffon to a Christmas Day wedding” remark. She imparted that like it was the most profound bit of wisdom ever. But, heck, unless you plan to be married standing in a snowdrift, who cares if the bride wears chiffon?

    • anniieee says:

      Kabuki mask? channeling the devil….. ohhhhhhhhhhh thats where Kelly heard it, from Jill talking about her mom.

  66. otaypanky says:

    Jill must be wincing. This week two more hours of reunion specials that will bring a whole new slew of re caps and articles of jill hate.

  67. Adgirl says:

    If Jill had just laid low after filming this season she’s be in a much better position. For starters – this website would not exist if not for Amazon-gate.

    Her sick need for attention & to explain/excuse/justify (re-write history) herself has created this shit-storm.

    You’re right 2 more weeks of broadcast. Then the viewers will move on.

    But who thinks Jill can shut up over the off season? She will do anything to get attention by the press “Look at Me!”. She will be inserting herself into any event with cameras.
    I hope our posters in NY keep us informed!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      By now Bravo is in final renegotions – Jill was probably told by them what she had to do to be invited back – she is failing in getting her fan base to rally, she behaves poorly at public events and she can’t stop attacking her cast mates or promote the show.
      We are in the calm before the storm! Will I miss Jill? No! Will we find other wives or topics to rally around? Yes!

      • DarkSonnet says:

        I don’t think a Season 4 has been announced yet. (WWHL, Andy Cohen with Bethenny)

        Usually they announce a season renewal, then speculation about cast members begins.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Not announced, but probably at the executive level known. Jill may be on the bubble and what she is doing and saying and how the audience is reacting will determine whether she is in or out.

        • lillybee says:

          RHOC hasn’t been announced yet and I think it should be filming about this time.

  68. HD says:

    As I am watching reruns, watching Jill fall on the ice again made my day. I can’t believe this idiot is wearing a skating outfit. She looks like a complete fool.

  69. iceNfire says:

    OT – Does anyone know what time True Blood airs on East Coast?

  70. iceNfire says:

    Found this on Jill’s blog. Too phony, I Hate Jill

    Can anyone help me with wordpress settings?

    Stephanie Stein Says:
    June 10th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
    Hi Jill,
    I thought a couple of weeks ago I solved all your computer questions!! I called your home to give you some tips on how to erase your personal info from a website. So nice talking with you, I was so excited after that I had to call all my girlfriends and tell them how down to earth and nice your are.

    http://jillzarin.com/latest-news/can-anyone-help-me-with-wordpress-settings/

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      So, Jill is again trying to erase her personal information so she hopefully can’t be tracked after posting as someone else?

      • anniieee says:

        Dottie Monaco Says:
        June 9th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
        I think the moderator doesn’t like me. My comments keep saying awaiting moderation and they are nice things. What to do, what to do.

        Reply
        jill z Says:
        June 10th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
        I can only do this once a day..taking forever with hundred of comments! HELP ME!

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  71. katiecoo says:

    Couple of things:

    The finale is on right now. It disgusts me to hear Bobby say “We did it for Heuh” reinforcing that THEY were the victims of this. Come on Bobby, get a clue, your wife said you’d have a “plane waiting at the airport”. Did you REALLY think this was a no risk venture? Get on the clue bus (plane).

    Someone else pointed this out but not sure if others saw it. When Jill ambushes Ramona again in the hotel suite, she’s carrying a tote bag with HER photo on it, facing out of course. Who comes to someone else’s wedding carrying their own self promoting swag? ohyeah, JZ, that’s who.

    Also the way Jill keeps the focus on how benevolent SHE is for showing up at Ramona’s renewal. Oh get over yourself. You can’t even let Ramona’s day be about Ramona.

    I have to say (unpopular opinion I know ) after watching these last two episodes I’m softening toward Luann. I think if anyone’s been “directed” by the producers, it’s as if she’s been assigned to Team Jill (because otherwise the other couch would be wayyyy too full) and she has misgivings about who’s at fault, she’s open to hear others’ opinions, she was nice to B and A at the Renewal. I think Luann could be redeemed BUT I’d love to see her talk with some objectivity about Jill.

    • moriasheehan says:

      she is sitting as far as she can from k and j LOL

      • katiecoo says:

        I think the DRAMA next season will be Luann bonding with Sonja and it sending Jill over the edge….left with….Kelly? Even though Jill won’t have a sunny storyline, she will still sign up perceiving she can redeem herself and of course being unable to resist the attention. But I think she will dig herself all the way to China which of course will have all of us watching…again. 😉

        Part of the reason I have compassion for Luann is she DID have a legitimately sucky year and a reason to be over reactive to every little slight. Her self esteem and pride was crushed so anything (like the Countless remark) would hit her harder. And I thought she was very cute with her French bf and he was cute back at her and this could having a major effect on her attitude. I don’t think she has a personality disorder like Jill does (imo) and therefore won’t be as easily manipulated once she heals more and gets stronger. And I can actually see her and Sonja having fun and being a little team.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Body language doesn’t lie………my friends!

    • lillybee says:

      I thought that the bag with Jill’s picture on it contained a gift for the renewal. It was very tacky though. I hope she is not selling it on her web site but I wouldn’t put it past her.

      • katiecoo says:

        I did too and I think she was copying Bethenny’s “Bethenny-centric” gift bag. Which was an entirely different thing for a girls trip filled with sunglasses and margarita mix. I’m sure Jill has many Sak’s bags laying around she could have delivered that gift in, appropriately. Somehow I don’t see Bethenny putting a huge Skinnygirl printed bag on the gift table. Jill just never seems to hit the right notes (in fact is stellar at hitting all the wrong ones).

        • Squirrels says:

          If Jill were smart, she would have had Avery grab a photo from their orig wedding and had it put on a canvas bag. That would have been thoughtful and pretty cool, too.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I think LuAnn has been reassessing her association with Jill – she is hearing things that give her pause, Jill threw her under the bus real quick when Alex’s kids behavior came up……and is reevaluating her friendship with an eye to audience acceptance. BUT it is her I told you so attitude, psuedo good manners (more like do as I say but not as I do) and judging of others that really makes me dislike her.
      In person, she may be witty, charming and interesting. On camera, she is trying to project an image she can’t quite pull off. When she said, no one knows she likes to sing……..she has said it everywhere! She will confirm bad behavior but won’t include herself in it (like the who won’t film with who remark) and IMO we will hear excuses (like her marriage ending and her kids need me) for her less than nice behavior this season.
      It has merit that Bravo teamed her with Jill because she is a strong personality. And LuAnn was the perfect foil for Jill (Robin to Batman) but her stock is taking a hit now so I see her backing off the Jillwreck and she will also be less protective of Kelly (who doesn’t appear to like her anyway).

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Or more basically, who walks around anywhere carrying a bag with their picture on it? Maybe she should just paste that picture on her ample behind so she is correctly identified both coming and going? Not that anyone in her presence would require it…

      I’ve viewed LuAnn, especially post divorce, as aligning with the perceived “power” person. The person(s) that could do the most for her socially and a person that LuAnn could still exert some control over at the same time.

      I don’t know that LuAnn had a lot of choices on the show until the introduction of Sonja. Before Sonja, it was align with Jill or remain solo. She was astute enough to have Kelly’s number and she realized that Ramona (and Mario) offered her no chance at control. Bethenny was never an option.

      She may have viewed Jill’s ship as slightly listing and thought she could shift the ballast. She didn’t foresee that the boat was sinking with the “captain” unwilling to discard baggage/cargo.

      LuAnn unwittingly signed on to the Ship of Fools and will probably climb into the Sonja Lifeboat in the very near future.

      And Jill will continue to provide “anchors” for herself that will inevitably take her to the bottom.

      All the PR in the world can’t save Jill from herself. She controls her own destiny and there may be even larger prices to pay in her private life.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ok Dark Sonnet are you in a Hampton state of mind??? love your nautical analogies!

      • katiecoo says:

        God I love your way with words. Seriously. You had me at “ship of fools” but I particularly love this one:

        “Maybe she should just paste that picture on her ample behind so she is correctly identified both coming and going? Not that anyone in her presence would require it…”

        I’m doing the “I’m not worthy! I’m not worthy” bow move right now, can you see me? 😉

      • Squirrels says:

        Ok, that’s it…. I’m going sailing this week. I seriously need a fix now.

  72. ms molly says:

    Not only did Jill try to get the other ladies not to film with Bethenny, she took over completely by ot including her in any of the functions, such as Ungaro and Saks, etc. and decided that if Bethenny was coming to anything, she was So suprised and not Prepared for all that. Remember when she talked LuMan out of inviting Bethenny to her charity function, by reminding her that Bethenny called her a snake? And when Ramona was trying to get her to attend the VI vaca, the first thing she wanted to know was if there was anyone that Ramona would’nt invite. My imagination lets me think that she was referring to Bethenny and Alex. Then after all that, she tried to get the other ladies not to attend Ramona’s marriage renewal holiday, but that backfired too, hence her bright idea to “Surprise” everyone and just show up. Oh yeah, she wanted to go sit on the beach with Bethenny, “just like two little girls”.

    We rarely come across anyone as conniving as Jill Shapiro Zarin. She is one of a kind, Thank God.

    As for Bravo, I would think that it’s in the contract to intermingle with all the housewives, and not be allowed to exclude the ones that one person (JZ) doesn’t happen to be getting along with.

    This was really longwinded, but I think enough is enough and Bravo should do something about it.

    Sorry

    Everyone have a wonderful day!!!!

  73. iceNfire says:

    HD – Thanks, I’m West Coast and it airs at 6pm here. Now why can’t Bravo allow both coasts and everyone in between to view shows at the same time? Makes zero sense to me since Bravo is just running a bunch of repeats at 6pm West Coast.

    • iceNfire says:

      And another thing, WWHL isn’t live on the West Coast! Either allow the whole Country to view these shows at the same time or change WWHL to WWHLOTECO
      Watch What Happens Live On The East Coast Only

    • RileyKitty says:

      LMAO ice. Anything else that pisses you off? LOL

      • iceNfire says:

        Yes! All viewers in Central and Pacific time zones should record the show and start watching 20 minutes later. This will allow you fast forward all commercials and still finish the show at the end of the hour. I’m sure the sponsors will just love that!

      • RileyKitty says:

        That is exactly what I normally do around here. God love a DVR because I hate commercials 🙂

    • kokuanani says:

      Come to Hawaii. The 10 pm RHONYC airs at 4 pm.

      You can drink all afternoon and then fall into bed in a stupor.

    • Squirrels says:

      Hi iceNfire – I’m west coast as well. I have cable and an HD tv. I get rhony @ 6pm on the HD channel, 9pm on regular non/HD Bravo.

      (Just in case u have HD and were not aware.)

  74. iceNfire says:

    Shadowsnomore – I found out yesterday that the series I recommended
    A Song of Ice and Fire is being made into a series by HBO. just sayin’

  75. RileyKitty says:

    I am sick of Jill stating over & over that she is not perfect… Thank god she cleared that up. I was sitting her under some misconception that she was perfect.

    Reunion part 1 is on, Andy likes Jill’s hooker hair! I missed that the first (& 2nd, 3rd, 4th…) viewing.

    • katiecoo says:

      lol RileyKitty. That pushes my buttons particularly because I had a stepmonster who always used to say “I’ve made mistakes….” as if that got her off the hook (for her verbal and physical abuse of us) but when you would ask her directly, as my sister did, “give me an example of a mistake you’ve made”, she would answer some bullshit like “I shouldn’t have let your behavior bother me so much”.

      Doesn’t that sound so “Jill”? And, oddly, my SM looks kind of like a Southern version of Jill (but taller and scarier).

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill was taught to apologize, but not to mean it.

        • katiecoo says:

          she says the words “I apologize” but it never…NEVER seems to ring true. And we’ve seen some apologies but her’s always ring hollow.

        • RileyKitty says:

          LOL very true. I only apologize when I truly mean it. Then again I try to only say what I mean, less to apologize for.

      • Squirrels says:

        Jill’s underlying message?

        I may not always be right,
        but I’m nevaaaa wrong.

  76. Smompy says:

    Just wanted to thank all you commenters upthread who brought up the double air-kissing thing. Seeing that annoys me to no end too, and it does seem to be getting more and more common in NY, unfortunately. I just hate it. When I see unwelcome lips coming at me that way, I often physically block them (with my hand) or else I forcefully say, “NO, Sorry I DO NOT do that.” I’m sure I offend people sometimes, but that’s too damn bad. Strangers and casual acquaintances have no business forcing their lips onto (or even near) my face. I don’t even approve of the single “friendly” kiss thing. I mean, whether we’re talking about a real kiss or an air kiss, why do some people feel the need to pucker up each and every time they greet someone? If it’s an old friend or a family member that one hasn’t seen for a while, I could certainly understand it, but for the rest of the population, a “hello” or a handshake should be a sufficient greeting TYVM! I also noticed that when Mario met Jason Hoppy for the first time, those two immediately got into this big awkward hug. Thankfully there was no kissing, but still….Mr. Smomperson would be mortified if a strange man tried to hug him that way. Well, I assume he would be anyway!

    My pissiness about this subject is fresh in my mind because of a RHoNYC scene I recently re-watched involving one of the more uncomfortable looking double kisses I’ve seen. Right now I cannot for the life of me recall exactly who it involved, but some male was being introduced to some female – it was the type of situation where there was just a simple introduction and the two people would probably never be seeing each other again – yet the male immediately went in to kiss the female on both cheeks. She looked so uncomfortable that I ended up yelling “Get away from her, that’s private property!” at the TV. OK, so maybe I’m a rerpressed, unfriendly crab, but I say unless you’ve been properly invited, please keep your lips out of my personal space – God only knows where those lips have been!
    🙂

    • That’s interesting. Around here a double kiss on the cheek is the normal standard greeting. Guys shake hands, and girls double kiss. I knew there were many places that only do the single kiss, but I didn’t know there are places where people are against kissing all together.
      I agree that the double kiss can be awkward and annoying, especially when you walk into a room and have multiple people to say hi to. Also, there doesn’t seem to be an agreed upon standard (which there really should be) for which cheek to kiss first which can sometimes lead to confusion and more awkwardness.

  77. moriasheehan says:

    well, she does look like a drag queen. LOL

  78. katiecoo says:

    Please putting out my little PSA again. If you can rewatch the Reunion #1 and see the part where Kelly tells Alex to cross her legs (which was actually nice and not bitchy) you see Jill glare at her for a single second and mouth what appears to be the words “Zip it”. It’s just a split second but I’d love to see it in slow motion so we can see the nasty hold Jill has over this addled woman.

    • iceNfire says:

      You can see it in slo mo. Press pause and keeping pressing it. That allows to to view frame by frame. Or at least that’s how my DVR works. Gonna check that scene again but I think we really need a lip reader.

      • katiecoo says:

        You’re right! I’m gonna do that right now! (forgot I could do that..thank you!!!). Will report back. lol

      • katiecoo says:

        Ok I did it in slow motion and very hard to decipher as she’s holding her thin lips even tighter than usual and she’s trying to secrete her words on camera. But I’m sticking with “zip it” as that seems to be the closest I can read. 😀

        • iceNfire says:

          I saw “zip it” but then a pause and one last syllable. Again it appears that whatever she said, it was under her breath.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill’s couch has Jill’s rules! Look at the body language – Jill’s couch has all of them trying to be as far away from each other as possible. LuAnn and Jill are practically hanging over the arms of the couch! Look at the other couch – they are comfortable and moving in and out of each other’s space.

  79. desertgal66 says:

    Delia says:
    One of Jill’s structured and generic answers that is driving me NUTS, is when she is confronted with an accusation of FACT she answers

    ‘And so do we all’

    When Jill said that during the reunion, it was in response to Alex’ comments about Jill talking behind everyone’s back, and being negative about the other HW’s in her TH interviews.

    The irony is that, until she found her voice this season, Alex never really talked trash about the other housewives behind their backs. In her TH interviews throughout S1 and S2, Alex was very diplomatic. Even during S3, her interviews were a little more caustic, but not much. The most derogatory thing I recall her saying was about delivering B’s statement to Jill, when Alex said in her talking head that she knew relaying the statement would change forever whatever relationship she had with Jill, and she was okay with that.

    So, Jill’s “so we all” answer was, big surprise, WRONG.

    Jill was also derogatory towards Alex about the email Jill sent Simon. Jill demanded that Alex produce the email on the spot with a “Show it to me, bigmouth, show it to me.” The vile little monster inside Jill really popped its head out with that one.

    • katiecoo says:

      I’m really hoping that one of Simon’s little popovers to the reunion set was to produce exactly that email.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      To me in any given scene – when they are together that would be talking behind someone’s back (Ramona’s purple dress example). When they are in talking head mode – they are answering a question being asked and to me that is not talking about someone behind their back. Does that make sense?

  80. moriasheehan says:

    i disagree, kelly’s snip at alex was absurd. alex’s legs were not facing cameras and we could all see kelly’s panties when she was crying on the bed cause Bethenny was so evil as to give her a gift bag. if kelly doesn’t want to see up alex’s skirt, don’t look! she should be looking at her face when alex speaks, anyway. reminds me of men who think my eyes are on my chest. anyway (again) kelly wears the blouses as dresses. something about a pot and black??? stones and glass houses. judge not…..etc, etc, etc

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Yes, it was curious wasn’t it? I’m not buying the perceived morality that Kelly is trying to sell.

      The lady doth protest too much, over and over and over. Why?

      • felony stupid says:

        Kelly’s moral compass is similar to that of a 7th grader – Be nice! Don’t call anyone mean names! Don’t let boys touch your private parts! And she acts like a 7th grader in that she doesn’t know how to follow through with those black and white “rules”. NO offence to 7th graders!! 🙂

        Said it somewhere on here and I’ll say it again…this is Kelly who wears dresses so low cut one can perform a pap smear going in from her lopsided cleavage. Suddently her concern is for Alex’s modesty? She is a walking, talking contradiction period.

        IMHO this is her version of a smack because she was paying no attention to the conversation because she can’t follow it.

        Alex took it is stride by thanking her and continuing her thought – I thought she was incredibly gracious about it. I don’t know if Jill would have been.

      • moriasheehan says:

        i think it was like her question to Bethenny when she just said “what are you doing right now” or words to that effect, she has memorized phrases to stop people talking (asking embarrassing questions) so she is no longer in spotlight, the person who was just slammed by her is stopped in her tracks. and kelly never answers or offers proof of her accusations.

        • felony stupid says:

          Good point – an adult or someone who is interested in helping you fix something (i.e lipstick on your teeth, hair out of place, etc.) will make a motion or whisper to you.

          Classy kreepy Kelly crap. My heart goes out to her daughters.

    • katiecoo says:

      You’re right..she has these extremes but seems hyper focused on sexuality to one degree or another. It was weird but for once it didn’t seem mean or malicious. Psycho? Yes.

    • iceNfire says:

      If you watch the scene again you’ll see that Kelly can’t keep her eyes off of Alex’s skirt. To me it is distracting and I would have said the same.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Alex’s dress was a good color but in no way did it pass the sit down test!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly focuses on the weirdest things – looking up other ladies dresses, child rearing tips – don’t ever tell your kids to shut up, Ramona’s kiss as infidelity! It really appears that she has ADD….you can see when she is not there and when she pops back in!

  81. Ellabean says:

    Ths most recent Jezebel Reunion wrap up – is hilarious. Some one posted it up thread – but here you go again. YOu must check out these 2 things on it:

    1. Scroll down for the ‘animated’ picture of a disinterested Kelly sitting on that couch – playing with a feather – – – like a bored adolescent. Very funny how Jez did this.

    – And –

    2. Commenter ‘gretchasketch’ says this:

    “I hate to repeat this over and over again but I am a nanny at the same school Kelly’s girls go to so I have seen her many, many times, and I can verify that she is both vile and completely disconnected from reality. Basically she just sits on her blackberry ignoring her nanny who is also there with her to pick up the girls, and wen the kids come the nanny picks them up and talks to them and the only interaction Kelly has with any of them is to name drop someone texting or emailing her.”

  82. WindyCityWondering says:

    Everyday, before I read Lynn’s thoughts, I pause on the spinning Jill heads……it just hit me! “Don’t make that face, it might freeze that way” OMG am I channeling Gloria?????

    • katiecoo says:

      Whoa. I’d actually tune in to see Jill on that show where they have to go through the obstacle courses bouncing on those huge balls and falling down all over the place (I know, so mean).

    • RileyKitty says:

      That is a great article!!! We aren’t the only ones who have Jill figured out. I was beginning to wonder.

      • DarkSonnet says:

        Isn’t interesting that the article doesn’t take the opportunity to suggest that Ally is shopping for a father’s day gift for Steve?

        Why does it always have to be about what Jill is doing when she obviously drags Ally around with her? Is Ally a prop like the ridiculous step stool?

        We probably all know the answer to that one. It is either Ally or the Internal Combustion Machine, Ginger.

        Interestingly, although Jill craves the spotlight, she doesn’t feel comfortable without “accessories”.

      • Anitabee says:

        Reality Tea brings up a very good point. Is Jill making this all up?

        Could be. Since when is a greeting card mistaken for a threat? I wonder what will come of this?

        • DarkSonnet says:

          Is it her attempt to make lemonade out of her perceived “lemons”? Mountain/molehill?

          Jill’s version of “Much ado about nothing”?

          Probably…

    • otaypanky says:

      thank you reality tea.

      • anniieee says:

        Thanks Anita bee
        Great article…he is as sick of her as we are… my favorite 2 lines from the article below:

        She will be infamous at all costs, whether we like it or not. But here’s to hoping Jill will take some well needed off her quest to be a famewhore, because quite frankly, I’m tired of writing reading about her. Jill’s desperation for famewhoredom is starting to channel that of Spencer and Heidi.

        • Anitabee says:

          You know it’s bad when you have to compete with Speidi for bad press.

          Still – Jill Zarin wins!

  83. lillybee says:

    I am really glad that Kelly seems to have a full time nanny. She needs one. I was wondering how those girls were fed.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And her ex husband lives in the same building too. Kelly seems to have “chores” to do instead of parenting. She doesn’t cook, she has to be accompanied to pick up her kids. It’s like she is a kid too…….

  84. iceNfire says:

    Oh yeah, more numbers this time from Jill and Bethenny’s facebook.
    Those who clicked “like”
    Bethenny – Friday 4:20 – 2,435

    Jill – Friday 4:45 – 54

  85. carmen smith says:

    I have been following this and other blogs for awhile and I think we’ve become too caught up in this. Geez, how much time can be spent on this? We don’t know these people. Who cares already? So much time and effort put into hashing and rehashing this stuff, analyzing, dissecting, bashing over and over, day after day…… and the nastiness. I’m sorry, but I have to say it….. I think you have way too much time on your hands. And you’re as bad as the ones you are criticizing. I mean, “I Hate Jill Zarin”? Very vicious. I watch the show and I have my opinions about the individuals on the show, too, but come on….. get a life. I think you’re caught up in the “fame” yourself, if one can call it that. This is crazy. I felt for B, too, on the episodes where she tried to get Jill to talk, but B is very shrewd, too. Whatever. I think you get my point. It just seems weird to be this “involved.”

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Sunday PR Alert #1

    • moriasheehan says:

      carmen, i don’t know about everyone else, but i am cut off from what family i have left, laid off after working everyday since i was 16 (now 57) my guy works 12 hour nights, sleeps 12 hr days and the cats are great for love and affection, but poor conversationalists. i’m pretty damn lonely. these blogs and twits and FB are ways to cope with being alone all the time. maybe i should be too full of pride to admit it, but it’s better than other more fatal alternatives i have considered.

    • Anitabee says:

      Whatever Flying Monkey #2.

      Print out your posting and take it over to Jill’s payroll. Maybe the wicked witch will grant you Sunday pay.

      • Fabulous Earth says:

        Actually, I don’t feel she’s a flying monkey and I totally get where she’s coming from.

        I love the effort and work Lynn has put into this place. I love the links and some of the comments from some of the folks on here. And to be honest, there are times when I’ve come across a comment that made me feel the exact same way as carmen – it was way too much (some of it funny nonetheless, lol). Even the lil’ spat that transpired here left me a lil’ like “HUH???? Wait a minute…isn’t this somewhat similar to what we’re griping about??”

        Anyhoo, like I wrote earlier, it’s a guilty pleasure, a way to pass the time and fill up some gaps in our own lives. It is what it is, I guess.

    • lillybee says:

      I am so involved that today I read the first 50 pages of the TWOP forum.

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      It’s a guilty pleasure for some, – it’s this or calorie consumption, lol.

      I’ve been using this particular series to vent about what I’ve seen to transpire in someone else’s “real life” (RHONY). Ultimately, by viewing comments and different folks take on things (as well as the show itself), I’ve been analyzing how I PERSONALLY view things in MY real life.

      It’s quite interesting to say the least. I’ve gone from “being disappointed” in Jill Zarin to “hating” or rather “disliking her immensely” to “eh, whateva”.

      In the end, trying to get a grasp on what HER psychological make-up and thought processes is turning into my understanding of people and their judgments of one another overall.

      Like I said, it’s interesting to say the least and I understand where you’re coming from definitely.

    • Char212 says:

      Well, It seems to me if as you say you’ve been following this as well as “other blogs” that you too must have an awful lot of time on your hands. No one’s twisting your arm to read all of them are they? .

      • Ellabean says:

        I consider myself a lifelong student of human behavior. This show – this blog – and its many brilliant comments are fascinating and part of the cirriculum.

        • Olivia says:

          Carmen, are we bothering you? Seriously?

          We have used this blog as an escape valve. Would it be better if we sat here an bemoaned the state of the economy, or the mess that is taking place in Louisiana? Would you prefer to see our angst taking place in areas that we have no control over but are sadly taking root in our consciousness?

          This blog, as stated repeatedly, has no bearing on our real lives. Our existence, unlike what is happening throughout the world, does not depend upon whether you agree with our loathing of Jill Zarin or not. We use it to rid ourselves of some of the frustrations manifested outside of our control.

          And just for the record: Jill Zarin has opened herself up to the criticism all on her own. She continues to seek the hot white of the spotlight against all advice and commonsense and as she insists on bashing, recreating history, and spouting lies to remain there, we have every right to call her out.

          So if we bother you, then just go away. This is our playing field and we won’t be bullied or insulted enough to shut it down because your sensibilities are offended.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Sorry Carmen
      I would have gotten back to you sooner, but I was at my son’s lacrosse tournament, then I worked the concession stand as a volunteer for 2-hours, after having written a 3-page financial report for my boss and the partners of my company, that was after I got up took a shower and made breakfast for my family.
      What have you done today besides write a nasty comment on this blog?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      There are posts here 24/7 because people have different schedules. I see this no differently then when men can give you a play by play of a baseball game or dissect every hole of golf they played. There is passion here and a desire to discuss something we likely don’t have many people near us to do in person. A guilty pleasure, a break from the daily grind, a place to have fun……
      Enjoy it for what it is!

  86. iceNfire says:

    I can’t find the stats on Lynn. Looking for the number of her followers, anyone?

    • LynnNChicago says:

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      • Kat says:

        @Lynn~~~ A quarter of a million views!! WooHoo ~~~ !!! 8)
        You certainly have a voice that MANY people appreciate and want to hear.

  87. carmen smith says:

    moriasheehan You know what? I totally get that. I really do. Feel the same way at times. I guess for me, I’ve just kind of OD’d on it all.

    • moriasheehan says:

      carmen, i have been watching from beginning, but never knew about blogs, then i started searching for anything about Bethenny attacking kelly’s kids and i found Lynn’s blog first. so i have only been posting for about a week. it gives me something to look forward, to. heck, i almost wish i owed money so my phone would ring.

      • Ellabean says:

        Moria – Take this time; correction – embrace this time for personal growth and introspection. Understand that this ‘lonely’ time has a positive purpose for you. Embrace, learn from it, understand why it is happening – then use it….then it will pass and onto the next chapter in your life. All the very best to you ~~;)

        Sorry for the tangent fellow bloggers – just can’t let someone hang there honest sadness out there for all to see and not acknowledge it and try to uplift….finding lotsa good peeps here !

        Stay with us Moria !

    • Kat says:

      I think if Jill would just stop talking and stay out of the media everything would die down. But I don’t think she wants the talk to stop. She seems to thrive on chatter. And she is a negative person, doing negative things, so most of the attention she gets is negative.

      • katiecoo says:

        true dat

        • Kat says:

          I used to just not like her. Then I hated the things she said and did. Then I just plain hated her. That led me to begin loving to hate her.
          Now I am just frigging sick of her.

  88. Jenni says:

    This is the first time I have looked forward to a Monday in a long, long time!

  89. otaypanky says:

    RE: Luann. From what I’ve read, Sonja and Luann were more than mere aquaintances before she the show booked her. Now, they are both single.
    Luann is going to have to move away from Jill because Jill can never and will never fit into Sonja’s social circle. She is too common.

    RE: Jill. You are not a New York Bi!ch, your a Bi!tch in any state.

  90. otaypanky says:

    RE: Luann. From what I’ve read, Sonja and Luann were more than mere aquaintances before she the show booked her. Now, they are both single.
    Luann is going to have to move away from Jill because Jill can never and will never fit into Sonja’s social circle. She is too common.

    RE: Jill. You are not a New York Bi!ch, you’re a Bi!tch in any state.

    • Char212 says:

      You’re right Otay, I remember them saying that they’ve known each other for quite a few years.

    • iceNfire says:

      That’s right, Bethenny was her fun friend. Sonja and Luann are both out of her league and single. Bobby may have a girlfriend, Ally’s off to college and Jill has no friends.
      When’s the pity party? And who is on the guest list? LOL Jill needs to approve the guest list for her pity party.

      • katiecoo says:

        Well we know the location of it–Jen’s Pity Pantry. 😀

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I’ll hang with Ramona on this one – B was a pet project, an underdog and someone to mother. The kid grew up and mommie is mad!

    • katiecoo says:

      LOL otay!

  91. felony stupid says:

    Don’t know if you all have seen this…but good stuff!

    http://www.bsideblog.com/2010/06/real-housewives-photocap-everyone-is-crazy/

    The comments are good too… 🙂

  92. MrWestVirginia says:

    I have a question that doesn’t have to do with this website, but during the Bravo pool commercials about upcoming Summer shows on Bravo, they show Patty Stanger on the right side of the screen with a blonde on the left side. Who is the blonde? Is that Jackie Warner? Cannot be Rachel Zoe is it, as she is shown with someone else. Also, what is wrong with Jacqueline from the New Jersey housewives in this ad, they might as well used a cardboard cut-out as she isn’t even moving.

    • moriasheehan says:

      yes, mrwestvirginia it is jackie warner with longer goldilocks. LOL

      • katiecoo says:

        Jackie Warner is coming out with a new show I read that’s less soap opera and more actually working out/training. I do NOT like her hair long like that…she was/is so cute with that short choppy look, wish she’d go back to it!

        • RileyKitty says:

          I will not be watching Jackie’s new show. I used to watch working out & as soon as she made that catty remark about a client’s (cancer survivor) breasts I turned the channel & never looked back. Apparently there wasn’t much to look back on since Bravo cancelled the show soon after. Jackie is dead to me.

  93. carmen smith says:

    moriasheehan That’s how I started, too, honey. No offense meant. I’ve been at it a littlel longer and still like new info, but sometimes it gets a little repetitive for me. As long as you’re having fun, who cares what I say?

    • otaypanky says:

      welcome carmen.

    • Fabulous Earth says:

      your thoughts ARE appreciated, welcome babe! :bighug:

    • moriasheehan says:

      carmen, you had put a lot of effort in your post and i felt you deserved an honest answer and it was good for me to actually do it. i think i am finding some answers for myself and company that makes me laugh!! not sure if i call it fun, but i have something new that has no bad memories and it’s sharing thoughts and ideas and spins with other people. i have always been shy and here i’m not shy, i’m calm assertive like the dog whiperer. i don’t have a dog, but i still watch so he can help me learn like his clients. tempted to get a dog, but my 9 rescue kitties would go on strike and quit being so dang cute. thanks for responding so nicely.

  94. ilovelynn says:

    I know no one ever answers me and this doesn’t really deserve an answer, but as I said last thursday before bethenny’s show, linda stasi of the ny post, that f*cking rag, did a review of her show and gave it NO stars. the entire review was very negative and filled with vitriol and at the time I thought WTF, she’s usually right on and I always, always agree with her. well, the rest is history, bethenny’s show was GREAT and I think I was in the majority saying so. I decided today to see if I could leave a comment for her. well, go on the nypost.com, click on tv and then click on her name under columnist and the review comes up and appox. 35 comments.(I’m sorry, guys, I don’t know how to do links…anybody have a teenager that you want to send to my house?) only 5 or 6 are negative, the rest are great and not only that, they accuse her of having an agenda and one blogger called her “jill’s nephew”! too funny. get the connection, nypost, page six nypost, in jill’s pocket!

    I’ll stop now and go back to lurking.

    • anniieee says:

      I dont know why page6 loves Jill….any new yorkers have any idea. great thoughts ilovelynn….

      • carmen smith says:

        Thanks, Otaypanky. And love your “name.”

      • otaypanky says:

        The tv reviewer is not page six. she runs her column on the next to last page of the paper.
        I had read the review also. Given that the show has all of 2 million viewers and those viewers have an emotional stake in this, it seemed like a fair review. She just didn’t get it. If you’re not a RHWNY fan, who would?

    • Kat says:

      Ah Patsy it is good to see you!

    • iceNfire says:

      Patsy’sBoys? Is that you?

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Hey Patsy!! I missed the Patsy to Ilovelynn switch somewhere along the line!

      “anybody have a teenager that you want to send to my house?”

      It’s summer, school is out… Hundreds of parents, as we speak, are attempting to locate you. Run, hide, save yourself… ;o)

    • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

      I suspect that the NY Post loves Jill because she is probably their source for gossip about the other NY Housewives. Last week, the NY Post ran that story about Jill’s “harrassment” claims. No other major media outlet ran that story. I think the NY Post will continue to bash Bethenny as long as they are friendly with Jill.

    • katiecoo says:

      How weird….0 stars? That definitely sounds like someone w/ an ax to grind. I mean maybe less than 5 stars sure, but that extreme with the general popularity of this show? I smell a rat.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I smell Gingerpoo……Jill can manage a good first impression but it doesn’t hold up. If she is a source and people want what she is supplying then she has a purpose. She is using and being used – like the parasite she truly is.

    • Good post ilovelynn! Thanks! It almost confirms that page 6 is biased. But the Post has a bad rep anyway for shady journalism

    • Squirrels says:

      Hey Patsy. Always enjoy your popping in. Do it more often, would ya?

  95. ilovelynn says:

    anniieee and kat noticed me! yahoo! xx

    • anniieee says:

      I always do… and you do have great comments!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I noticed you too! 🙂

      Personally, I keep remembering when Jill said, “we all have relationships with the press”. Maybe this is one of Jill’s “relationships”. She feeds them information on the other 5 women and they give her a pass. My favorite one, and I can’t remember which paper it was but their internet person has a weekly item called, “why Jill Zarin is a despicable person” (or something like that)

      p.s. I don’t think it is that no one answers, it is just that you ask those tough, great questions that no one knows the answer to…

      • Ellabean says:

        Lynn, that was a summary that New York Magazine did with their weekly online “Vulture” Real H recaps. Those are hilarious too. They only do Real H recaps for the NYC and Jersey wives shows.

        Wow – and let me say that they were really not holding back when it came to naming Jill’s awfulness all season even before Amazon.gate . I loved it thinking that this magazine is right in Jill’s home court.

        Here is the link. Scroll down and notice their subtitle for the recap of early episode # 5 – “Okay. Now we hate Jill Zarin”.

        http://nymag.com/tv/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/

  96. iceNfire says:

    kat – I left a message for you via Riley

  97. JKW says:

    They are showing almost the whole reunion tape. I think they should show the whole VI trip also. This would at least prove if there was really any bullying of Kelly. It might shut Jill and Kelly up ! Kelly goes on and on but I wonder if she realizes that the other housewives aren’t speaking about it …and Bravo is not showing everything that went on. With all her and Jills craziness I would be tempted to tell more about the trip. She should shut the hell up and be happy they are actually protecting her. I would get sick of both of them and say…ramifications be damned…prove how crazy she was down there.

  98. otaypanky says:

    Remember Christopher London? He’s an attorney and blogger for Society in NYC and on the East End. He had written a blog about how wonderful Jill was and that Jason was gay and such stupid nonsense. You can google his site and read his articles.

    Anyway, when Lynn posted Alex’s blog site here, I did log on to read it and read the comments. Well, lo and behold, who is blogging there but Christopher London. Well, ok, I dressed him down a little…but that’s not important.
    What’s importand is what he reveals.
    According to him, many of his friends, aquaintancesand contacts have told him that Jill and Kelly have irrevocably damaged their reputations in society.
    He did do some major back treading but he also got to know Alex and Simon and states quite clearly that they have endeared themselves to NY Society because they do more than just show up for charity, they actually work it.
    He also referrs to Jill as someone who takes more than she gives and ALL HAVE NOTICED.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Great information! Thanks for posting this!

    • katiecoo says:

      Whoa.

    • Anitabee says:

      Your post are always informative. Thanks for the info cuz it’s something I’ve been wondering.

      I mean seriously – we don’t really care about Jill we just like to share our dismay and disgust about what a vindictive lying manipulative asswipe she is. Out of all the housewives in NYC why would Bravo keep her on the show after this season.

      Yet – we REALLY don’t care because it’s not like we are going to run into her as the majority of us don’t live in NYC.

      BUT…

      What about the people that they really do “run” with. Their own social circle? I can’t see them really consider Jill and Kelly in their own class. What social parties are the invited too? What charities do they serve? What photos are taken of them at events that cater to real socialites?

      You see Jill and Kelly at a lot of events but it’s places anyone can go to? Playboy Club in Vegas. A bravo premiere. A fashion store opening. A restaurant opening.

      I can just picture Jill being the laughing stock of wherever she goes. No wonder she is so angry all the time.

      • otaypanky says:

        Chris seriously disses her in a big way and Totally Supports Alex and Simon.
        When I read what he had to say with more having been revealed to him, I felt better.
        Jill is poo in society. She did it to herself. So is Kelly.

        • kokuanani says:

          otay, do you have a link to this? i Googled Christopher London, and prowled around on his feeble blog for a bit, but I couldn’t find the tasty bits you mentioned.

          i’d love to read them.

          Thanks.

    • Truth will always win out.

      Thanks for posting that otay!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      I found the discussion you cited. London covers that scene and in that series of exchanges gave his take on things and people. Informative, interesting, and revealing without spelling everything out. He was quite clear about Alex & Simon walking the walk, not just showing up to be seen. Thanks for noting the discussion you raised with him.

      Acting like a madwoman on TV might get Jill a dinner with the Lohans and a “co-hosting’ segment of Access Hollywood or whatever, but it’s not a path into the top tier of “society.” Jill may have once wanted a ticket to high society, but right now it seems anything with a camera and an audience will do. This year she bragged that she has the same agent as Brad Pitt. When her 15 minutes expire (how’s her Q score now?), Jill may find she’ll be sharing an agent with Tonya Harding.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill does not see herself through anyone’s else eyes and doesn’t get it that she is judged by what she actually does and says not by what she thinks. It struck me during the VI trip that Kelly will find it difficult to get work because of her behavior in the future. Jill will get the 5th Avenue Freezeout.

    • Quincy IL says:

      That is Olympic style backpeddling on London’s article.

      Otay, tell us everything piece of gossip that you can find.

      When these women leave Bravo, they seem to fall off the planet. It must be difficult to return to being nobody.

  99. ilovelynn says:

    dark sonnet: LMAO! by the way, another reason I needed a teenager, couldn’t get my “patsy’s boys” on this blog!

    otaypanky: LOVE IT!

    dark sonnet: now lets find HAD ENOUGH, did I miss something? I can’t keep up with all the comments sometimes.

  100. ilovelynn says:

    iceNfire: missed you too!

  101. boston02127 says:

    Hi everyone 🙂

    I’m wondering if I’m remembering correctly. Is Jill’s sister an attorney?

  102. iceNfire says:

    ilovelynn – left a message for you at the bottom of my page. Click my name to get there.

    otay – Love You glad your back

  103. boston02127 says:

    God forbid Kelly, Jill and LuMan do anything for charity with out the knowing.

    • anniieee says:

      Isnt this the one that Jill showed up bitching and moaning.. to anyone and then the cameras went on..and she was sweetness and light. The lady from Canada was there…she said it way up at the top of the blog….lol

      • aquamarine candy-o says:

        That’s the event I was talking about!! We were there!! Thanks for posting the video, boston02127.

  104. boston02127 says:

    above post: without the world know. sorry

    • katiecoo says:

      Maybe not such a typo…Jill and Kelly seem to do alot of things “without knowing”. 😉

  105. desertgal66 says:

    I can’t believe I missed this before, but I just caught Jill’s other big booboo during the reunion show. When the conversation turned to Jill asking the other housewives not to film with Bethenny, Jill slipped up.

    It went like this (paraphrasing here0:

    Alex and Ramona: You told us not to film with Bethenny…
    Bethenny: …to sabotage my show.
    Jill: I never said ‘to sabotage your show’.
    Andy: So, you called the other housewives and told them not to film with Bethenny?
    Jill: I’m not sure I called them, Andy.

    Jill doesn’t remember that she called Alex and Ramona, but she does remember that she never said anything to them during those phone calls about sabotaging Bethenny’s new show?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      she is letting out secrets that Bravo probably isn’t pleased about. she also called Alex a loudmouth which is so very rich with irony don’t you think!

  106. ilovelynn says:

    iceNfire: was it a personal message to me, or just tips on how to change my name? been there, done that, on your page. remember? I just gave up. If it’s a different message to me, I don’t see it. I clicked on your name and your practice page came up and I scrolled down to the bottom of the comments. is that right?

  107. katiecoo says:

    Just reposting Dark Sonnet’s post from above in case people missed it…I give this my Mazel of the Day! 😉

    DarkSonnet says:
    June 13, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Or more basically, who walks around anywhere carrying a bag with their picture on it? Maybe she should just paste that picture on her ample behind so she is correctly identified both coming and going? Not that anyone in her presence would require it…

    I’ve viewed LuAnn, especially post divorce, as aligning with the perceived “power” person. The person(s) that could do the most for her socially and a person that LuAnn could still exert some control over at the same time.

    I don’t know that LuAnn had a lot of choices on the show until the introduction of Sonja. Before Sonja, it was align with Jill or remain solo. She was astute enough to have Kelly’s number and she realized that Ramona (and Mario) offered her no chance at control. Bethenny was never an option.

    She may have viewed Jill’s ship as slightly listing and thought she could shift the ballast. She didn’t foresee that the boat was sinking with the “captain” unwilling to discard baggage/cargo.

    LuAnn unwittingly signed on to the Ship of Fools and will probably climb into the Sonja Lifeboat in the very near future.

    And Jill will continue to provide “anchors” for herself that will inevitably take her to the bottom.

    All the PR in the world can’t save Jill from herself. She controls her own destiny and there may be even larger prices to pay in her private life.

    • RileyKitty says:

      New Jersey’s ratings are higher than New York’s?? Doubtful.

      Notice Teresa’s book titles couldn’t get any closer to Bethenny’s if she wanted them to?

      • boston02127 says:

        RileyKitty~ I read that she said her book had already gone to press when she found out about the title being so close to B’s.
        I don’t believe her thou.

  108. WindyCityWondering says:

    Help me here! I think we are judging Jenn too harshly.
    Bravo introduced her as an event planner (yes they probably paid her and it was probably Jill who demanded a party since she wasn’t doing the VI trip) for Jill’s Cow on Ice solo.
    Jenn did a party at her house (giving us the gems of mean girl and the pity pantry), she did a lunch with JLK and then Ramona’s vow renewal. She isn’t jumping into the snarkfest, she has been trying to keep a straight face, making observations that are good but not inflammatory (3 sides to a story) but has not had an opportunity to play with the nice girls.
    While she may not make the cut, I kinda feel she really didn’t get a chance either.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Windy~~Did you see her at Romana’s wedding event? Romana’s event planner was there and Jen looked at her then back at the people she was standing with and said “would you hire someone who looks like that to plan your event”. When she said that I knew I didn’t like her.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Saw it too Boston, but it was a baby snark – I don’t think she is comfortable trashing others and was trying to compare how she runs an event. Something in me just wants to give her a chance I guess.

    • Squirrels says:

      Cow on ice?

      OMG, hilarious. Oh the visual I had. Flash back to “Gypsy”, Rosalind Russell and Natalie Wood. Caroline the dancing cow had better mooooooves than Jill.

  109. suebhoney says:

    Oh Jill Zarin….You may have the face for modeling but definately not the body…

    Sorry I missed all the fun yesterday! My son and I were at an all day class to volunteer for an animal rescue and rehab place near our home.

    Did you catch that Jill Zarin? I am a real housewife and I do charitywork and spend quality time with my child all the while cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. I have nice conversations with my frineds and see them when I can but guess what?! They all have lives too so we catch up when we can…

    Oh…did I mention I’m in the middle of a major home remodel that I’m doing pretty much solo? I can’t take the “poor me” “victim” crap from you any longer and like Lynn, I will not watch RHONY next season if you are on it.

    Wonder what this woman would do if she actually had to be a true “housewife” or any ounce of real work for that matter…what a joke.

    • otaypanky says:

      I say the same thing, but in the end, I will watch.

      Why, because she truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

      How interesting will it be to watch Luann back off, stick with Sonja and watch jill as she cannot possibly fit in with Sonja’s crown.

      Seems from the previews of the reunion that Ramona has finally awakened and will not be a jill shill any longer.

      Looks as though jill comes in on season 4 as the underdog not able to control a thing. I for one would love to see this.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      she is what she is and that why we love to hate her!

    • kokuanani says:

      I am a real housewife and I do charitywork and spend quality time with my child all the while cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc.

      Okay, confess: you’re only able to all this because, like Jill, you take a pricey helicopter ride instead of driving a boring car to do your errands.

  110. boston02127 says:

    Not to go off subject but I’ve been watching Toddlers and Tiaras. What a sick show.
    I feel so sorry for the kids, their mothers are nuts.

  111. lillybee says:

    I am trying to figure out who Jill has threatened to sue. One may be Bethenny for stealing Jill’s show idea. I also think that she threatened to sue TWOP when Amazongate broke. I believe that is why the forum was shut down. Their forum for New Jersey is still up and posters continue to talk about Theresa’s finances. Does anyone else have any ideas about who or what she is suing.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      A more interesting question would be who is suing her!?

    • boston02127 says:

      @lillybee-I’m wondering if she means the so called threats over getting cards in the mail. I just googled the question and nothing came up.

      • Eve says:

        Jill won’t sue anyone because then she would be subject to deposition and would have to tell the truth under pain of perjury. She has too many lies she would have to fess up to and Jill likes her secrets.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Jill’s so full of BS who knows what’s really going on? Someone may be threatening to sue Jill for all we know. Maybe Jill’s on a list of suspected catnappers and she’s being proactive getting legal counsel. And Jill may be trying to sue the entire internet while her “lawyers” (for all we know, cousin Bernie’s kid who’s first year law at NYU) shake their heads. Just because she says it, doesn’t make it true.

      Bravo approached Bethenny about doing a solo show about her life. So what’s to sue? Jill doesn’t have a copyright on Bethenny’s life. That’s nonsense.

      • Squirrels says:

        There was mention of a lawsuit re: the organizers of the Hamptons African charity threatening Bravo if any of the so called “interview” went public.

        Naturally, Jill would have to be named in the suit. When you sue someone, it is common to sue everyone.

  112. Olivia says:

    I like the show because it is so stupid. So many people across the nation are either laid off or working multiple jobs just trying to exist and these beauties are fighting over seating arrangements a dinner they did not have to prepare, pay for, or clean up after.

    Personally I like both Bethenny and Alex but the others are packaged and do little more than promote their “brand”. Jill is the most outstanding of all with her viciousness but the others are close seconds in their sheer pretentiousness and vapidity. Expecting someone to address you as “Countess” or apologizing for three seasons running for being referred to a “countless” is insanity. And whoever took her money in promoting her delusion that she is a “singer” rivals Col. Tom Parker for hucksterism.

    Watching this show is a guilty pleasure and it is comforting to know that I am not the only one hooked on this nonsense. I just don’t want to see us getting angry at one another because there is disagreement amongst us as to who is up or who is down in our estimation from week to week. Suffice to say, this season they have become full blown characters in who they truly are and it says a great deal about their integrity as people.

    • katiecoo says:

      I have watched quite a few of these seasons but never have I watched and rewatched and posted on any of them until this season of this group…and I wasn’t really in to NY before this season.

      I wonder how Jill feels about the double edged sword in her total nose dive in popularity may just secure her position on the show, but to remain, she will have to sacrifice that popular, adored, respected, center of the universe persona she’d like to think she has/had/could have. She will be kept on the show for others to shine AGAINST. Doubt she will ever redeem herself but she may keep her “stardom” a la Omarosa. I can’t wait to see what Kathy Griffin has to say about all of them!

  113. anniieee says:

    East coast is NJ and the “charity event” I am watching the cooking channel. I cannot stand NJ. NY is my guilty pleasure and I will post or lurk….and enjoy it all. Gotta fix my mom dinner.. Have a great night everyone. Take care.

  114. little rock says:

    Someone waaayyyy up there commented that simon popped in the day the women were filming the reunion and wondered if perhaps it was to bring proof that jill really did send simon an email asking them not to film with bethenny. It may have already been addressed, but i read alex’s bravo blog for 6/10 where she states the visitors (and i’m sure this includes ally) were only allowed to watch the taping from monitors. Alex then speculates that perhaps this is to keep visitors from passing notes.
    So, if alex and simon are going to prove jill is a liar, and i, for one hope they do, they’ll have to do it another way. Please, please, please find a way!

    • katiecoo says:

      Oh…that’s right! I forgot about that…dangit! But I wish they would produce that email…then again as Bethenny said it’s like nailing her to a cross and shooting her…she’s been awfully pummeled.

  115. Bravo fan says:

    Well after several more attempts of leaving comments on Jill’s blog and facebook about her posting the incorrect date of airing of reunion part 2 ( she posted Tuesday instead on Monday) she still did not correct it and continues to delete my comments. I am now sure she is trying to get people to miss it. I saw the clip about part 2 where she admits she told others not to film with B. She then gives a very snarky I am sorry to B.

    • little rock says:

      3rd phone conversation b/t jill zarin & andy cohen re. false info on facebook:

      Andy: Hello, caller! Who is this and where are you calling from?

      Jill: Dammit, andy, i know you have f$#&ing caller ID! Whatever! I think
      we got cut off a little while ago.

      Andy: No, i hung up on you. I’m on my way to your place now. I’m going to
      watch while you change the day to Monday on your f#$&ing facebook
      page. And if you don’t, i’m going to hold you down and force you to
      watch BETHENNY’S GETTING MARRIED? on a continuous loop
      until you fix it. I’ve gotten dozens of emails from people saying they
      keep pointing out this mistake to you and you are blocking and
      deleting them. Enough, bitch!

      Jill: (crying) Please don’t make me do that! I’ve only got 6 fans left, and that
      INCLUDES family members. Even that efing ginger has turned on me –
      the little ungrateful bitch! And after everything i’ve done for her, giving
      her a place to live, making her famous! If it weren’t for me, no one
      would even know her name. Who cares, i’ve got a bunch of cats now
      anyway. oops! forget that last part.
      Please andy, i don’t want the few people who still like me to see part 2.

      Andy: Don’t care. You signed a contract.

      Jill: Come on, you’ll get plenty of viewership from all those f#@&ing
      bethenny lovers. And alex has picked up the ENTIRE state of illinois,
      the bitch. And then there’s the 100’s of thousands of idiots who believe
      ramona is f%#@ing RENEWED – like she’s been dipped in HOLY
      water, for chrissakes! So, cut me a break,andy. Let my 6 people think
      part 2 is on tuesday.

      Andy: Do you really think anyone is that stupid?

      Jill: Believe me, the few fans i have left ARE that stupid! They believe all
      this crap i’m putting out th…. wait, what was that noise? Andy, what
      was that?

      Andy: I’m putting you on speaker phone. I need my hands free for driving.

      Jill: Andy, you HAVE a DRIVER! OH MY GOD, is luann there? It’s just like
      that bitch to sit there beside someone while they’re having a PRIVATE
      conversation. I know you’re there luann, i can hear your head shaking.

      Andy: Jill, i can assure you luann is not here in the car with me. God, you
      have gotten so paranoid, thinking everyone is against you. Oh wait,
      everyone IS against you!

      Jill: Andy, you piece of shit, bad for the jews, mother#@%&ing, son of a
      bitch!

      Female voice: Jill, perfect example of a time when
      a little civility would be nice.

      Jill: (drops phone, writhing on floor) ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    • Squirrels says:

      Right. Like the reunion won’t re re-aired?

      What a dope.

  116. iceNfire says:

    I really wanted to be here at 6pm to say to all you East Coasters, “I’m watching True Blood” but I think I’m going to catch up on last season.
    Well maybe I’ll run downstairs at 6pm and say it anyway. lol

  117. boston02127 says:

    I wonder if Ally is going to be at the reunion tomorrow.

  118. ilovelynn says:

    iceNfire: I think I just got your message about how to do the links! thanks, I’ll try it next time.

    otaypanky had a fight with HAD ENOUGH and a bunch of people left? WTH, when was that, which blog? bad otaypanky!

  119. boston02127 says:

    Can anyone say this picture is positively Bethenny? Look close at her face.
    http://sixpondmeadow.com/10520/?p=2557

    • LynnNChicago says:

      it’s her! She admitted it happened but was a mistake, she never meant to “moon” anyone 🙂

      • boston02127 says:

        I was wondering because it seems so out of character for Bethenny. I kept looking at her face and double checking to make sure it was her.

    • viki55 says:

      She admitted doing it. It was in an interview someone posted her. The interview was like 30 min long and from June 2009. She said it wasn’t meant for everyone to see. Aparently she was doing it to a friend and someone else took a piture. So I guess it is her:)

  120. Can I make an OT observation re the housewife shows? 🙂

    I would really like a little more ethnicity mixed in these housewife shows. How about some Americans with Asian, Hispanic, etc. backgrounds?

    It seems like the shows are too segregated.

    OC is all Caucasian, Atlanta, mostly African-American, NJ, all Italian-American (with possibly the exception of Danielle?), NY all Caucasian, but with those of the Jewish faith represented and an Aussie in Simon. 🙂

    I’ve thought this before, but would like to see some more variety.

    Of course, I won’t be watching any of them except NY if the shows are still filled with tacky behavior and fighting and NY only if jill and kelly are gone.

    Bethenny’s show may very well be the only one I’ll watch, and that would be fine with me. 🙂

    • TLM says:

      Continuing in this diversion from the Jill discussion… I’m still wondering why Tamra’s racist comment to Ryan at her infamous “etiquette” party did not get more of a reaction from the public. That show ran again the other day. When she asked Ryan why he didn’t have a suit, “Like every white boy should,” I thought I must have misheard it. Until I saw that scene many times! I still can’t believe that came out of her mouth. In all of the seasons of the OC, I don’t think I have ever seen a person of color, unless you want to count Jo, who is Peruvian, or George’s daughter McKenzie, who is half Mexican (and famous for her “I’m biracial” comment when she mixed a chicken costume with a gorilla one in a costume shop).

      That said, I think most cliques tend to be homogeneous, whether it’s along lines or color or economics. It always seemed like Kim kind of didn’t belong in the Atlanta group for a bunch of reasons, the least of which was that she was white. It just seemed like a contrivance, like Bravo did not want Atlanta to be labeled as the “black housewives”, although that group did take a lot of heat from the black community itself, stating the show played into stereotypes that the only black people who are wealthy are athletes or rappers.

  121. LynnNChicago says:

    Sorry to re-post the same thing for a third time..lol I just wanted a fresh place for comments… NEW BLOG POST

  122. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    I’ve always been amazed by people like JillZarin. They accuse others of things they are guilty of. It seems that by calling out the other person first, they can then say “you’re lying, you’re just saying that because I said it first!”.

    As we know Jill accused Bethenny of being uncaring and using people. She claimed Bethenny was money hungry and would do anything for money. We the viewers, know that this is Jill’s MO.

    She has used B, Kelly, and Luann for their youth, connections, title and rides their coat tails to any event. She has tried to destroy Bethenny’s brand and Alex’s livelihood. She searches for fame and endorsements to become the best known housewife.

    What she accuses people of being is what she is. And she knows it!

    I believe JillZarin is the richest housewife thru Baawwbby of course. Check her and others wealth at

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com

  123. TLM says:

    Ok, I can’t take the suspense anymore… what is TWOP? I keep seeing it written here and have no idea.

    A while back, when Simon Barney of the OC kept incessantly blogging and being catty and blaming about the end of his marriage, it was JILL who wrote, “Simon, please stop. Just stop.” I respected her for that, and I had the same take on everyone in the OC cast as Jill. Then NY started, and she suddenly turned into a childish, backbiting person worse than anyone in the OC cast. I was stunned. I remember the look on her face when Bethenny was on the phone basically begging for her friendship, and Jill was holding the phone out so Luann could listen, while Jill had a little smirk on her face. She was actually relishing the fact that Bethenny was twisting in the wind. I lost whatever respect I ever had for Jill in that moment.

    Worst of all is that Jill has now said on numerous occasions that she does not care to change: “I can’t change…I’m a New York bitch…I am who I am…that’s my personality.” The weird thing is that if she had only said, “I will try to change” or “I want to try to change” or “I am trying to change,” Bethenny and others might have been willing to give her a tiny chance at redemption. But in saying what she has, Jill has revealed her true self and really done Bethenny a favor in letting her know that trying to rekindle a friendship will only lead to more aggravation and hurt feelings.

    Is this a new Jill, or just the Jill that always was? Looking back, I’m not so sure Jill was so different in Seasons 1 and 2, as much as that B’s situation suited her well, and she had more allies. She flipped out at Ramona having a small party she wasn’t invited to, and immediately made Ramona into a villain. She was hell bent on getting gossip on the VanKempens and their rental in the Hamptons, and attacked them in a Cindy Adams article after she saw they were covered in New York magazine. She took a small tennis game that was supposed to be fun between her and Mario, and turned the planning of it into something that rivaled a war room at the Pentagon for a national crisis. Who cared if Mario organized it and brought in two tennis pros? Was Jill trying out for Wimbledon? The whole thing was about control, and not wanting Mario to have it. Over a bullshit tennis game that was just for laughs. I don’t think much has changed except for “the tides turning” on Jill, as Bethenny observed.

    Bethenny is different now, with different priorities in her life. She was along for the ride with Jill as she was gossiping and involved in the stupid tennis game minutiae back then, but her life has changed as much as anyone’s life ever could, and she has changed along with it. Sometimes you don’t realize how much you have changed until you speak with someone from your past, or after a break, and you see how much they *haven’t* changed. I recently tried to rekindle an old friendship because I remembered the good times many years ago. But it wasn’t until I had spoken to this person a couple of times that I realized why the friendship was best left in the past. I thought the passage of time and having a family might have changed her, but it really had not. I could have said something like “we’re done,” but I didn’t see the point of those kind of dramatics. So I excused myself quietly with an, “I really have to go,” she said ok, and we said goodbye. That was the last time we spoke. I wish this woman and her family well, and I always will, but I just cannot have her in my life. I remember the good times, but I realize those were in the past when things were very different for both of us. And I am ok with that.

  124. Actually I searched for the Danielle Staub sextape for a couple hours over the weekend.

    They have over at http://watchcelebsextapes.com

  125. Well, I agree with what you wrote, but not with all of it. Regardless, it is all great material. Thanks!

  126. Shannen says:

    I love reading this blog. I don’t know anyone IRL that watches these housewives shows, and I find that I agree with most of what is said here.

  127. Had Enough! says:

    How fake is Missy Holt aka Michaele Salahi? Absolutely not one word out of her mouth is true, except that she can’t ride. Cheerleader? Hah. The woman is a major klutz. She has no sense of rhythm whatsoever and is exceedingly awkward. Her little model strut with Paul Wharton – ridiculous. Bouncing up and down and twisting her hips and torso like a little girl pretending to model. Exactly like Gia Giudice. Then the “dancing” in Paris, completely out-of-time to the music, tossing her head straw mane around like she was in Flashdance. Then that little ass-around for Tareq. “We still got it going on” she said. Um no. You never had it going on.

    I have been wondering why she didn’t use some of her alleged megabucks to get that beak fixed. Now it dawns on me. With the beak and the teeth, she bears a resemblance to the less-attractive members of the Kennedy clan. She’s probably waiting/hoping for another Kennedy White House so she can sneak in again.

    Andrea Rogers is calling her Con Artist Barbie. Love it! Grifter Barbie would work, too.

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  129. Rabble Rouser says:

    Jill responded to my tweet…
    I tweeted her about giving big bully Patti a Mazel at the same time as campaigning against bullying.

    She says “please it’s just a tv show. Don’t watch if it upsets u. Seriously?”

    I said “Seriously? Patti gets a pass because it’s on TV- but the internet is real?”

    Uggg.

  130. Tre says:

    Wow! Such losers!

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