Hate Jill Zarin Reunion Part Two June 15, 2010
Do you suppose the reunion was the first time that Luann realized that she didn’t have a storyline whatsoever this season? It is actually comical when Luann has the floor and that booming voice goes into a story or tells her point of view but as she finishes, even she realizes her monologue is irrelevant and explains absolutely nothing! Luann is second string, support staff, an assistant, a caddy if you will, carrying Jill’s make up case around New York City. She spoke a few times but may as well have said the Pledge of Allegiance for all that she added.
Tonight started out with more about Jill Zarin. Clearly we’re not going to get the satisfaction we’re looking for because all Jill keeps doing is denying, then admitting, then apologizing. This same pattern we’ve seen throughout the two hours we’ve seen so far. Jill should add an apology at the end for all of the denials, (lies) then for too many insincere apologies.
If I thought for one minute that Jill Zarin was truly sorry and was trying to change, I would shut down this blog right this minute. The problem with Jill is she never knows when to shut her mouth! (or to stop typing)
Jill said that she was sorry for the way she acted at Ramona’s True Renewal launch, she was sorry for the way she treated Bethenny, she was sorry for her snide remark about Sonja. The one person she never apologized to was Alex. I’m sure no one is holding their breath. Yes, she said she didn’t mean it, when she called Alex ugly but I don’t remember hearing an apology. I think that was a well thought out plan to ensure she never apologizes to Alex.
The problem is that Jill Zarin tweeted during last Thursday’s show making more excuses and pointing out her cast mates bad behavior (in her mind) Jill has proven time and time again that she has not changed. She said it to Bethenny at Ramona’s vow renewal ceremony that she cannot change. That was the most honest thing that Jill has said all season. So what are we left with? The real Jill Zarin is a horrible person who is jealous of her friends’ success and insults everyone with the excuse of trying to be funny. Jill tries to get her cast mates to not film with another cast mate, contacts the press with stories about her cast mates, tried to sabotage Bethenny’s new show, she acted like a spoiled 4-year-old and still is, here is her post on her own web site:
“I will post my blog on bravotv.com here after the show airs. I wish Bravo would show the “tape” because they continue say things that are NOT TRUE! I am home watching the show with Bobby, Ally and Jonathan on “the bed”. Love you all! Jill”
Jill’s denials using the excuse that she can’t remember are getting really old! No one has that poor of a memory! We know for certain that Jill has a great memory, she remembers every single nice thing that she’s ever done for anyone so that she can throw it in their face or collect on the debt later. Her memory is selective, her lies are abundant!
Jill tried again and again to say she doesn’t want to talk about it anymore and she wants to look to the future and move forward. Jill doesn’t like who she was back then but has no real reason for her behavior. Jill, isn’t the whole reason for the reunion to rehash and discuss what happened throughout the season? Call me crazy, but your ass is on the pink couch to discuss your behavior back then, so spill it!
Andy reads another question for Jill trying to get her to explain her horrendous behavior yet again but this time Betheny puts a stop to it and said Jill had taken enough hits and it’s time to move on. When Andy pauses, Luann chimes in with, “who is that question from?” Huh Luann? You want to know the viewer’s name that sent in that question? Pay attention, please! At this point Jill stands up and starts to storm off again. Why now Jill? Bethenny just got you off the hook and Andy may just back off now.
There are still questions that I would like answers to but I doubt they will ever get answered. What was on the entire voice mail message that Bethenny left for Jill and why didn’t Jill let us hear the entire thing? Jill said a few different times that Bethenny scares her, what does she mean by that? Jill said she backed off trying to make up with Bethenny so as not to cause Bethenny any unnecessary stress. What about showing up on St. John when Bethenny was newly pregnant and had just buried her father? Jill didn’t think that would be stressful for Bethenny?
We did learn that Bethenny had some medical issues during the early stages of pregnancy, she briefly mentioned a blood clot and that she was put on bed rest for a few weeks. We also learned that Bethenny’s mother chose to contact her daughter while Bethenny was in the hospital and was trying to remain stress free. I would like to know more about B’s mother and whether or not they have gotten together since Bryn was born. There are still going to be plenty of questions left unanswered.
In the end, Jill still wants to blame editing, she wants to blame her cast mates, the fact that there is no film available to show the truth and she wants to storm off the set every time the conversation doesn’t go her way. Everyone has seen the show Jill, we know what we saw and we know what you said Jill Zarin!
So even when we still haven’t gotten to Luann at all, Andy introduces the straw that stirs the drink, Sonja Morgan. There is a long conversation about sex and it was pretty dull to be honest. Who would have thought a sex dialogue would have been so dull. The few highlights were Andy asking Kelly about one night stands and Sonja explaining to Kelly that even if you date someone for weeks, you may still end up with a one night stand. <wink wink> Kelly responds to sexual discussions similar to the way a 13-year old girl would. She becomes shy and uncomfortable and for a 41 year old woman, she seems very immature.
They did get into Kelly’s behavior on their trip to the Virgin Islands. I’m SO sick of Kelly calling it scary island, that really is offensive to people who live and work there, to people who were born there, to the people who tried to make that trip wonderful for these women by serving them, cooking and cleaning for them, it is just thoughtless!
The problem with this entire discussion was that everyone was speaking over one another and it was really frustrating for the viewer. Andy did try to stop Bethenny, Ramona, Alex and even Sonja from talking over each other and Kelly. If someone hadn’t seen the show all season and just watched tonight, it would look like these four women ganged up on Kelly because they all seemed to be yelling at Kelly at the same time. This surprised me because I really thought that they would have the sense to let Kelly speak and then one at a time, have their say. It seemed like that is the direction that Andy was going in but none of them could keep quiet long enough to finish any discussion properly.
Kelly did get to go on and on about the same crap she has been tweeting about for weeks. She was bullied, systematically bullied. Bethenny even asked for an explanation of this term, “is this a medical condition?” According to Kelly, this has allowed her to bring this national problem into view and she is now an advocate for people who get bullied. The show has allowed her to be more charitable. Is tweeting and creating You-Tube videos changing the world? I don’t think so!
Kelly, rather than telling us what you’re going to do about it, why not tell us what happened, what REALLY happened? The problem is, I don’t think she can. She lost her mind, she isn’t going to admit that, she isn’t going to admit that she was on drugs, that she forgot to take her meds or that she is just insane! None of the speculating we’ve done will ever be resolved.
Kelly said that she was forced to go on the trip and Andy Cohen said not once but three times that Kelly was not forced to go adding “Jill and Luann weren’t forced to go by the way.” That whole thing is insane! I would love for Kelly to point to the Bravo/Shed Media executive who forced her to go on this trip and get his or her side of the story. I believe that she may have been strongly encouraged to go, I would guess that even her own “people” wanted her to go for more air time. It is clear to me that if it was part of their contract and they were required to go, Jill and Luann would have been there as well.
She says once again that she had a break-through, she claims that she was so beaten down by these women that it resulted in her unbelievable behavior. Kelly actually apologized to Sonja for including her in the four people who bullied her, finally admitting that Sonja was the one person who hung out with Kelly on the trip. Andy asks Sonja for her side of the story and Sonja explains that while she was looking for a one night stand on St. John, Kelly was the buzz kill who dragged everyone down. Ok, that never happened but it would have been funny. The conclusion that Sonja seemed to come to was that if the women started to talk about feelings, Kelly couldn’t handle it and began to insult everyone and talk over the other ladies. This is when the ladies began to “gang up” on Kelly.
When four women see things happening one way and one woman sees things another way, it is clear to me that the four women have the story right. Sonja basically said that they just wanted to have some fun and Kelly continually stopped that from happening.
Kelly’s story is that they were nice to her one minute and mean to her the next. What she leaves out is her vicious comments in between. It never occurred to her to ask herself why they are suddenly mean? Maybe it is something you said, Kelly, like “zip it” or “you’re a cook, not a chef” or “ho-bag” and on and on. Do you suppose the change in the ladies treatment of Kelly could have anything to do with that? Maybe in Kelly’s mind, they really were bulling her. She doesn’t realize that she is insulting people.
To have all of the ladies on the other couch yelling at the same time or making snide comments or asking questions in the middle of Kelly’s speech made no sense. I really did expect better. Andy could have handled that better. Let Kelly tell part of her story then ask one of the women for their side. Maintain some order Andy Cohen!
No one is going to convince Kelly that she wasn’t bullied, although everything was recorded and Kelly watched the same thing we watched, she still doesn’t know what went on. The way that Kelly left the island was never brought up and may never be brought up. Since there are two different stories out there, and although we all know the truth, I would guess that since the ladies all agreed (on camera) to allow Kelly to say it was her decision to leave. While they have all since come forward in the press and explained what really happened, Kelly was asked to leave by producers.
Kelly said that she is using her experiences on that trip to bring attention to a few issues like bullying and unprotected sex. Andy tried to sum up what Kelly had just said, and he did it pretty well. Kelly then did a complete turn around and said, “No Andy”. Even Jill said to Kelly, “but that’s what you just said!” Kelly doesn’t know what she’s saying and she cannot process correctly what she hears.
Kelly claims that she called her agent after the very first lunch on the yacht asking to go home and was told no, you have to stay there. Could this be what Kelly means by being forced to be on the trip? Could it have been Kelly’s own people who forced her to go? I cannot see Bravo/Shed Media people forcing Kelly to do anything she didn’t want to do. Kelly skipping with glee when she caught glimpse of the yacht says it all!
I know eventually they will get to Luann and her bit part in the show, I’m sure they’ll talk about her dates and her song and we’ll all fall asleep but I suppose that’s the price we have to pay.
We’ll see what is left to discuss on Thursday, while Jill may tell you all it is on Sunday, don’t believe her!
Jill has shut down her Facebook page, she claimed (on Twitter) that it was getting “spam”. I’m not going to define what “spam” is for Jill Zarin but negative comments that Jill doesn’t like are not “spam”. In any case her blog is up on JIllZarin.com. All comments posted there are supportive of Jill. Here it is in its entirety.
”To err human, to forgive divine”
Mon, Jun 14, 2010
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Upon watching part 2 of the reunion this evening this saying is what popped into my head. So I ask you, where is the divinity amongst some of my castmates?
Self reflection and growth is always important. I am proud of how I came full circle this season. I realized the things I could have done better and attempted to correct them or sincerely apologize for them where I could. But I ask you, where is the forgiveness? At what point are enough apologies enough? What else can a person do to right a wrong? Why are some people’s apologies fully accepted immediately, yet mine seem to be falling on deaf ears? I feel like the first two parts of this reunion all that you’ve heard me say is “I’m sorry”. While I certainly am sorry about many things, what did I do that was so gregious that these women just do not have in their hearts to forgive? Or at the very least put aside and move forward? Does it seem to you that there is more here than meets the eye?
I have received so many letters from all of you that virtually beg me to stop apologizing. Well thank you for opening my eyes. I have apologized enough. I am going to be divine and forgive them for having such closed hearts.
I have so much in my life to be thankful for and that is my focus. This experience has enlightened me and energized me. I could not have gotten through this season without all of your wonderful support. Thank you for taking me into your hearts.
Visit me at here at http://www.jillzarin.com and http://www.secretsofajewishmother.com and let me know how you feel. I can’t answer every comment but know I will read them all..though it may take a little while!
I Love you all!
Yes, I agree, Jill’s apologies were out of control, there were too many, they were insincere and the fact that she needed to apologize so many times is what she should have focused on. Why did Jill feel the need to apologize time after time? Simple, because she was a hateful bitch all season! She is right, many of the comments on her blog say the same thing, “stop apologizing”! However, she controls the content of her web site and she controls which comments to post and which to block so naturally the comments are all in defense of Jill Zarin, proving once again that Jill thinks viewers and fans are stupid! Jill still doesn’t get it, she has absolutely no idea how to deal with the public, seems to be scrambling to find a way to win back fans but ends up making everything so much worse.
This blog to fans is another pathetic attempt of Jill’s to make people feel sorry for her but it only makes her appear insincere. She wants forgiveness but continues to defend her behavior, deny what she’s done…THEN apologizes. How are we supposed to believe these apologies are sincere? If for one second I felt like I wanted to believe her, she shot that down with her closing, “I love you all”. Personally, I don’t think she loves me, do you?
Kelly completely ignored the fact that the reunion aired last night. Not one tweet about the show. Could she be learning? I doubt it! She is in Los Angeles right now and tweeted about renting a car…thanks for sharing Kelly!
Bethenny and Luann never mentioned the show on Twitter.
Get my take on the reunion as I talk live with Andy on Watch What Happens Live!! Its coming on right now on Bravo!!
Getting ready @BravoAndy WWH have on my new jewelry for august HSN who’ll be watching!? http://tweetphoto.com/27297184
Tune in now for the 2nd part of our explosive reunion on Bravo! I got so mad at Jill you’ll have to see it to believe it!
There are a few previews up on Bravotv.com for the final installment of the reunion. They discuss Kelly’s behavior on St. John some more, they talk about Luann’s song and we finally see Ramona blow up at Jill.
Andy published an article on the internet yesterday regarding the Real Housewives of DC, it is here if you’re interested:
Until next time………..