I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens June 15, 2010

 I Hate Jill Zarin      Watch What Happens Live    June 15, 2010

This was the most disappointing Watch What Happens Live I’ve ever seen.  Possibly because I’m not a big fan of Dina’s and I despise the cat.  (sorry)  I know that it isn’t the cat’s fault what it looks like but I cannot help my reaction to it.  I have similar reactions to big hairy tarantula spiders.  When they brought the cat out, I knew the show was going to be a bomb!  The whole show seemed to be about Dina and way too much time was spent on the cat. 

I wanted to hear what Ramona had to say about the reunion but she barely spoke.  When we see Ramona on the show she seems like so much fun but she is really very serious and doesn’t have such a great sense of humor.  Possibly she didn’t have enough wine. 

Dina left the Real Housewives of New Jersey, no surprise there.  I didn’t buy for one second her explanation.  To blame Danielle in order to help make viewers hate Danielle even more than they already do is immature and asinine!   My theory is that Dina’s husband Tommy did not want Dina to do the show anymore, in fact, I would be surprised if he supported her decision to be on the show in the first place.  Rumor has it that Tommy was very unhappy with the revelation that came out during filming of the The Big Fat Ridiculously Expensive and Tacky Wedding nonsense! 

During the filming of the wedding of Dina and Tommy, it came out that Tommy cheated on Dina, not once but several times.  Rumor has it Tommy was infuriated by this.  Tommy refused to be seen on camera during RHONJ for that reason.  Additionally, Dina wasn’t allowed to show her daughter Lexi on camera due to Dina’s ex-husband refusing to agree to it.  Again, this is the rumor and I believe it over Dina’s weak explanation. 

Dina claims that she is leaving because of her being forced to film with Danielle Staub.  Andy Cohen pointed out that it was possible to film the show without having any connection with Danielle (obviously Caroline is doing it) but without any real explanation, Dina says that there are a lot of things behind the scenes that force her to have dealings with Danielle.  Andy skeptically says, “Really”?  Even Andy doesn’t believe Dina’s story.  Who would know better than Andy that it is possible? 

I know many of you like and admire Dina so I’m sorry for all of her fans that will miss her.  I didn’t think that she added much to the show.  In fact, I’m having a hard time finding a character who adds much to the show. 

I have had a really tough time getting into the show and not laughing at how desperate the producers seemed to be while editing this show together.  The guys shopping for lunch meat to make sandwiches during a poker game was included in the on-air cut, that doesn’t bode well for what we may see in future episodes.  Almost every scene feels like a “filler” scene.  If this is one of the better scenes that they chose to air, imagine what is on the cutting room floor.  Wow!

The Real Housewives of New Jersey needs a bridge between Danielle and the other ladies, who better to fill that role than Kim G.  Kim is friendly with Dina and is pushing her way into Jacqueline’s life but only wanting to discuss Danielle.  No shock here, the show is so transparent. 

Andy’s obsession with the 13-year old boy is getting a little disturbing!  Why is he allowing this kid all of this air time?  This kid met Andy in the street apparently a few weeks back and told Andy that he was a huge housewives fan.  He said that Bethenny was his favorite and so Andy arranged for this boy to call and speak to Bethenny last week.  Ok, that was kind of cute, but for this kid to call again to ask Ramona a question is getting out of hand. 

I don’t watch this show (WWHL) to hear a 13-year old boy. 

Ramona, the ever creative Ramona was asked to come up with a song for Turtle Time, here was the best she could do….

It’s time to party it’s time to drink it’s time to dance so let’s have fun. 

Catchy!  Let’s not have Ramona composing rap tunes anytime soon.  

Even the weekly poll is becoming embarrassing.  Clearly both Kelly and Danielle need help!  I used to look forward to Andy’s Mazel of the week, now he has a choice of three and has viewers vote.  I thought the whole idea was for Andy to give us his thoughts that was the reason I enjoyed them.  I want Andy to give us the Mazel of the Week and the Jack hole of the Week.  Period!

The Real Housewives of New Jersey was more of the same, nothing exciting, nothing shocking.  There is nothing to look forward to on this show.  The only thing coming up, which will probably be saved for the season finale, is Jacqueline’s daughter pulling Danielle’s hair and the police are called.  We already know what happens and we already know the consequences. 

Some of the cast and their families went to a farm, saw animals and made fun of pigs.  Including, wait for it, mentioning Danielle in a derogatory  manner.   Nice message for the children. 

The best part had to be Jacqueline throwing her daughter out of her house by literally grabbing her by the shirt and lifting her out of the chair.  My only wish is that she would have given her a boot in the ass on her way out. 

The lovely and classy Ashley called her mother a “bitch” on the way out.  Bravo would do well to cut out any scenes that contain Ashley. 

Danielle was a stripper in a past life, do we care?  Really?  I know I don’t.  It didn’t surprise me in the least, she can call it any type of dancing she likes but we all know what it was.  Again, I can’t even care!

Then we have the poker game.  How idiotic that this group of grown men want to try to intimidate this young kid, they want to initiate him?  What a cliché!  As a viewer, don’t you dare ever relate these people to the mafia, damnit! 

Juicy Joe joined the well catered poker game, Eat up Juicy Joe, you never know where your next meal will be coming from!   

This show is an embarrassment to New Jersey, to Bravo, to the viewers of Bravo and to the cast that appears on the show. 

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653 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens June 15, 2010

  1. kokuanani says:

    Thanks, Lynn.

    We need the relief.

    • anniieee says:

      Yipppeee–anniieee screams as she does cartwheels…while sucking on a lolipop. THANK YOU Lynn… I can only be nice and try to ignore for so long. I love you… I love your blog! Packing..but lurking…. and knowing its going to be sooooo pleasant.

    • RAR says:

      I need to respectfully disagree. It has been hinted at in quite a few interviews that Danielle told Dina’s ex that their daughter was being abused (before the show started). Danielle is relishing in the spotlight and believes her hateful behavior is in the right. It was also mentioned that Danielle again tried messing with Dina’s daughter in between seasons of the show. Now Danielle is engaging in more destructive behavior with Ashley, resulting in an arrest.

      I see why Dina left the show. I am frankly surprised she came back at all this season. I wouldn’t be surprised if her husband was adamant about ending her involvement on the show to protect his family and his business. The show is just so negative it’s horrible to watch.

      It’s still Jill Zaaarin’s fault though. I hate jillzarin.

  2. Adgirl says:

    Hi Lynn, Do you have any scoop on DC? I hope it fun with interesting ladies – not the same dopes as NJ, OC and ATL.

  3. kats2 says:

    I guess a refresh was done, am I really the first to post and if I am why should I care about such nonsense?

    If you haven’t read Gawker recap you must, they have come up with a few names for Ashley, but my favorite is Baked Potato (don’t know why but it cracks me up). She does look like a baked potato.

  4. Melinda says:

    I agree……….RHoNJ pales in comparison with NYC….even Atlanta and OC! I like Caroline……Teresa is okay but ugh…don’t get me started on her…….the others…..eh….

    oh I know about that 13-yr old boy!!! why are his parents letting him stay up, watch Real Housewives AND call into WWHL?!?! ugh…….

    love your blogs!

    • dee says:

      In regards to the 13 year old boy. The first week he was on, it was cute. But the second week..yeah, not so cute.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Yes, the first time it was fine. The second time – no thanks! No thirds, please. Go to sleep, young man! Go to sleep!

        • dee says:

          So funny. I yelled out “go to sleep” at my tv when I heard him the second time.

        • Olivia says:

          He appears to be a 13 yr old “Andy Cohen wannabe” waiting to happen. Can’t imagine any of my sons at that age hooked on watching “Housewives” shows but whatever floats your boat.

          Miley Cyrus may be a mess but imagine if your 13 yr old son preferred Ramona Singer over Miley. Jaybus!

          • dee says:

            I sure hope that he’s not yelling that he just “lurves” the Housewives shows. There are so many mean kids out there that they just might start systematically bullying him.

      • bravofanfromday1 says:

        I laughed a bit b/c as the 13 year old was commenting on air, a blurb from Bravo flashed below stating that you need to be 18 or older to call in.

        Way to inforce those rules Bravo, LOL.

        • dee says:

          Awww, but he’s 13 and sooooo precocious. We can’t enforce the rule on him.
          Umm, yes you can. Please, please, please enforce the rule on him.

          • Kat says:

            LMAO No training pants here.

            • Robin says:

              I think it is adorable.

              Things have been tough lately in my life.

              I didn’t pull a Teresa.I have never taken a second (nothing wrong w/it as long as you PLAN to pay) paid all these years on my home and the day I was doing the taxes and was happy because we only owed til 4-13 on our home and it was really ours,my husband was laid off.

              Just trying to say,I thought the kid was cool.He made me smile and even if it wasn’t nessesarily your cup of tea,other folks might enjoy it.Life is too unpredictable,don’t begrudge a 13 yr old of enjoyng his 15 mins.

              Besides,LOL I like him more than Jill 🙂


              • Kat says:

                I hope things get better for you.
                Life is as you say, unpredictable.
                May the wind be at your back.

  5. yesIwatchthiscrap says:

    I had this question on the last entry, but I will repost here.
    What wives would you like to see on another HW show? Like Alex in DC (she lived there), or Atlanta ladies in NY…etc?

    • kats2 says:

      Bethenny, Alex, Sonja, Ramona, Kandi, would be great anywhere on any other HW show. The rest of them you can stick a fork in, they are barely cutting it where they live and moving them won’t help them at all.

      • Ooh! I agree Kats2! In fact, I was think that the other day! Thinking about what other housewife I like (outside of the NY show) and Kandi was the only one I decided was a decent and interesting person.

      • tracylyn42 says:

        goood question.. i would like to see Tamra and Lynn from the OC come to New York and try to keep up with Ramona and Alex..

    • Zee says:

      I’d pay to see Gloria (mother of all that is Evil) live in NeNe’s household for a long weekend.
      Oy Haaaay!!

    • Beckett says:

      Drop Luman in the middle of the Atlanta ladies and watch her head explode!

  6. kats2 says:

    Lynn – did you ever get any information on why Bethenny was in Chicago for just one night a couple weeks ago? Also, do have contact information for Bethenny I can use? I really want to get her Detox program/diet and I can’t get a response. I both tweeted and twatted and nothing! If you can help that would be great.

  7. Pantry Viewer says:

    Bringing this over from the other blog because I wanted to hear other’s answers to AdGirl’s question:

    Adgirl says:
    June 16, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    BGM – have you guys been watching? I just watched last week’s episode (sorry I’ve been busy). I was thinking about how Jason loves to have people around all of the time while Bethenny does not. I am more like Bethenny. I would be completely stressed out of I did not have my down time away from people. I think he would be stressed not having his buddies all about. I think that is potentially a huge quality of life conflict for them.

    jennifer says:
    June 16, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    I an am like Jason and my husband is like B- I love having plp, but he just wants it to be us. I think Jason (who is sexy IMHO) and B are super sute and sweet! The people who are saying she is “harping” on him (not here but reviews) if you filmed my marriage there would be times both my husband and I came off looking bad, but we apologize and we kiss and make up- thats just marriage and real life and thats what I like seeing on BGM?

    Pantry Viewer says:
    June 16, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    I am surprised at the parallels I see with B and myself – I’m that way with regard to how much I want to just be around other people. I’m kinda surprised Jason is that way – he seemed more reserved. Anyway! Hope they find a happy medium.

    DH was watching B’s new show with me on the couch. He’s a gruff ex-Marine and thinks this show and my watching it are ridiculous and likes to poke fun at me We laugh.

    Anyway! At Bethenny’s therapist’s office, I was kinda shocked to hear her telling my story. I left home for boarding school at 15, by my choice, because my home life was insanity with my parents drinking and affairs and crazy things going on. They had plenty of money, but we were raised in a crazy environment. Same thing as her, drinking early, clubs early – all of that – becaues I thought it was normal.

    I never went home after boarding school. Parents divorced and my dad never spoke to us again – well, he did, but it sure was ugly and hateful as he channeled his new wife. Shame on both of them. My father did horrible, despicable things to his children and then just disappeared.

    Anyway, so my dad calls a few years ago when he finds out he has cancer. I go to his hospital and he tells me all this crazy ass shit about how he wished he had never married my mother, having us kids was a mistake, his illegal alien wife was going to get his money because she had six kids from different husbands and needed the money more than us, etc., etc., etc. I did not want his money and was disgusted it was being discussed – ick. WTH did I go to hear that for? It was the ugliest thing I have ever seen a human being do.

    Anyway! DH says during B’s therapist visit, “Do you really think you need to be watching this?” As we were both surprised she was kinda telling my story – I really didn’t realize the extent of the similarities. But I told him, no, love me some B and it makes me happy to see we both survived some awful crap and have happy families of our own. He even patted my hand during it – what a sweetie. I’m also glad it was just touched on briefly and then on to the fun stuff!

    • Katiecoo says:

      I read all of these posts and in a super hurry so don’t have the time for a more thoughtful reply. But want to thank you all for sharing your stories and ways you relate to this show. I think that’s what makes it popular is having people RELATE to these women in some form or fashion…that someone living a “fabulous” life can also be dealing with all of her same struggles. That’s why we like Alex and Bethenny and Ramona …instead of attempting to pull off some “oh my life is soooo good” persona, they tell it and show it like it is!

      I relate more to B in this equation..the alone time to recharge thing. I get claustrophobic w/ too many people in my space however MOST people view me as an outgoing extrovert. In reality I only am outgoing because of my private time.

      Pantry Viewer so sorry you are going thru so much and have been and B is a great example to you of how to keep rising above and keeping a light heart in spite of that heaviness (I also have my own story which I might tell some day…which would curl some of your hairs…all of them). But for now sending you all a big cyber hug. (((((((((((all))))))))))))

    • kats2 says:

      I think this difference is a great one to have, because they will find a balance and help each other. I too am more like B, but too much of staying in is not good, just like too much going out is not good.

    • Bethenny is a great example of someone having risen above her circumstances of an unhappy home life. Ramona is too, but Ramona has been affected by her father’s behavior more so. I understand Ramona and why she reacts in the manner she does, but then sometimes calms down and can talk more calmly. I can accept Ramona’s behavior because I do understand it and also even when she has a flare up, you can understand what she is saying.

      Kelly however, is almost unintelligible.

      About Bethenny’s and Jason’s difference in socializing, I think they’ll learn to adapt. At least hopefully they will. I lived on my own for about 10 years then moved back to live with my mom and sister. It took me a LONG time to adapt to no privacy whatsoever. I finally made my room a sanctuary and sometimes lock the door when I need a little down time. It’s more new to Bethenny having people around, but she’ll make the adjustments necessary or maybe have a personal space to retreat to. 🙂

    • kokuanani says:

      Thank you, Pantry Viewer, for sharing your story.

      All good thoughts and support going out to you.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Thanks everyone! I’m all good now, really. I just can totally get B’s “raised by wolves” thing. I would say that to try and be funny and not get into ugly details that no one wants to hear when someone would get close and ask about why I don’t go home on breaks/vacas/holidays, what have you!

        Thanks again for your kind words. All is well and I’m super grateful for my normal life!

        • Kat says:

          I’m happy life is good for you and that you embrace that.
          My partner had it tough (left home at 13) to put it mildly.
          The first 2 yrs of our relationship were rocky, but we’ve made it 16 so good things happen and can last. 8) I had to accept there are more shades of gray than the opposites black and white. (And I thought I was open minded back then.) My partner’s mother died unexpectedly (devastating) and there is no relationship with the father.
          Not all cycles repeat. Good people, make great friends, and can be what some families are not.

    • emt2 says:

      Thanks for sharing such personal information with us. I went to boarding school in order to flee my family, as well.

      I hope that things are better for you!

      • Kat says:

        Thank you. 😉 I love your words.

        • anniieee says:

          You all are amazing human beings… I am so impressed by your empathy and your zest for life. Thank you all for sharing. *raises a glass to all of you*.

  8. Adgirl says:

    Let’s send good thoughts to the DC ladies and Bravo to puleeze have IQ’s over 22 – either individually or collectively.

    I can’t watch NJ, ATL or OC anymore because of their inanity.
    I can overhear more intriguing dialog at a laundromat.

    • Ok, do you think I should give DC a chance? Even with that White House gatecrasher on there? I will not watch Beverly Hills. Don’t care about them at all. Like you, I’m not watching NJ, Atlanta or OC, so that leaves Bethenny’s show for the summer and maybe NY if certain changes are made.

      Hmmm…guess I could watch the first episode at least. 🙂

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        I tried watching OC last season, but it bored me to tears, alternating with wanting to claw Alex’s stupid, vapid, self-important eyes out, so I quit watching that one.

        I dropped NJ this season after the first episode and don’t want that crap anymore.

        I tried one bit of Atlanta, but that wasn’t my thing.

        I would enjoy seeing B come back sometimes to NY, only if Jill and Kelly aren’t there. I won’t be watching if they are there.

        Maybe Gretchen could move to NY. Without that Slade guy. I need a little more Simon, though. And I really missed his blogs.

      • anniieee says:

        DC is so full of wannabes… and “I think I am a power broker” types. Sleezy–crooked..hands in everyones pockets..and one up man ship. I moved. I hated it. I loved the city. The people (in that stratosphere suck raw cookie dough)… Just hmm in your head… “the backstabber”…..

    • Maddiegirl says:

      “I can’t watch NJ, ATL or OC anymore because of their inanity.”

      I agree. Although, I miss watching Gretchen. She is fun and laughs at herself. Depending on who returns to NY, that one might be off my must watch list too.

  9. Thanks for the new blog Lynn! I had gone to the previous blog about 45 minutes ago, then decided to go make coleslaw. Just now finished and sat down again to see if the air had cleared…

    I’ll just say that I had been thinking about leaving too and just leave it at that.

    Thanks for the refreshing oxygen Lynn!


  10. I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

    The Jill Zarin media blitz is on. This is a tweet from one of her publicists:

    AKRPR Just leaving @usweekly w @Jillzarin stopped into the Editors/news mtg saw @APuliti love it !
    about 3 hours ago

  11. Katiecoo says:

    Ok I need to post about something that bugs me upon bugging me. The whole term “systematic bullying”.

    This implies it is a “system” as in something that is planned, intentional, systematized to fulfill some kind of outcome.

    Like those women somehow all agreed with a certain strategy to pull this sequence of events, intentionally, to “bully” Kelly. BRAVO do you see this? This is CLEAR and OBVIOUS symptom of paranoia.

    If there was anything “systematic” about that trip, it was systematic drinking and partying! As in “how early can we start with our first Pinot Grigio?”. This is also, by the way, the way I go in vacation w/ my girlfriends. Systematic fun!

    Kelly was like a gnat that they all had to off and on, swat off themselves. SHE was the one hot and cold, decent one minute then off the hook the next with her temper tantrums and nonsensical language. They were responding to HER tone and increasingly got more frustrated with HER back and forth craziness.

    I guess she thinks she’s coining phrases this season–the Kellade cocktail (for someone who doesn’t drink) , systematic bullying and making lemons from lemonade. Nuts.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Ironically, it was Kelly, Jill and LuAnn who had the systematic plan in place to discredit Bethenny and anyone who sided with her. Somewhere in her addled brain she knew someone was systematically doing something … oh, that’s right – it was her and Jill and LuAnn! She got it half right.

      • Katiecoo says:

        Dontcha wonder if that term was somehow a Jill plant…right along with “channeling the Devil”? Alex has that figured out…she knows idiot Kelly didn’t see that term on the SHOW, she heard it right out of Jill’s mouth, during one of her “systematic programming” sessions.

        • kats2 says:

          All I know is there is no chance in hell ding-dong Kelly created the term.

          • I agree. Someone told her to say that, Kelly did not come up with the word “systematic” all on her own. Impossible.

            • Anitabee says:

              It seems Kelly repeats things that she hears. For example, when Andy told her it was NOT true that she was forced to be but he appreciated. She responded back with something like it is true, But thank you Andy, I appreciate it.

              What does systematic bullying sound like? It sounds like secondary bullying which in usually involves more than one bully. I tend to believe someone suggested that this is what Kelly was describing but as usual this walking tall contradition did not process it in her brain correctly.

              • Kat says:

                I believe Kelly has multiple issues. She won’t fit neatly into a diagnostic box. I know nothing about Asperger’s except the signs/symptoms posted to this blog, but it seems to fit some of her behaviors.
                She also paranoid and has delusions.
                Then there is the question of self medicating or substance abuse.

                Kelly needs professional help.

    • dee says:

      I start systamatically drinking after 5 p.m. on Fridays.

    • dee says:

      That Kellade drink of hers. Listen I know it’s not hers, but when she first twitted about it she said she had that drink elsewhere. She then renames the drink after herself. Soon after she does the Kellade video where she shows us how to make the drink (that, keep in mind, requires lemons) using ORANGES. I know. The amount of material she gives us is amazing. But I digress. I just wonder at what point in her addled brain did she think she concocted this drink?

      • bravofanfromday1 says:

        I am pretty sure Sandra Lee made it during “cocktail time” during one of her many shows and put it in jelly jars to drink.

        For someone who doesn’t drink, Kelly sure drinks a lot of tequila.

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          OMG! Sandra Lee. LMAO. We have a running joke in this house when her show comes on. If the hubs sees her on the boob tube he immediately yells, “Yeah, but what can we get drunk on tonight, Sandy” And I respond “Cause you KNOW you need a drink to get through that meal!” (We love some of her recipes, btw, not insulting her just think it is hysterical)

          • emt2 says:

            My fiance and I always scream out : It’s cocktail time! and then fall out in hysterics.

            She is hilarious! Especially her cocktail Christmas tree, decorated with wine glasses and shot glasses!

            • bravofanfromday1 says:

              Best episode EVER!! It cracks me up EVERY time. Especially that giant nutcracker holding that huge blue martini.

              • emt2 says:

                This kills me everytime. Whenever I need to laugh, I watch this and almost pee on myself.

        • lillybee says:

          Sandra Lee is very easy to snark about.

          • Kokuanani says:

            OMG, I had never seen Sandra Lee before???

            Who the hell is she? I thought someone had misspelled the name of “Sandra Dee,” blonde bimbo movie star from the 60s-70s.

          • anniieee says:

            @emt2…. lol…. seriously. tooooo funny, thanks for sharing.

      • Squirrels says:

        Wheww… I thought I was the only one who thought those were oranges. Either that or bionic lemons with bad color balance in the lighting.


      • emt2 says:

        Another sorry attempt to one up Bethenny.

        Remember when she told Jill and Luann that B was delusional because she thought she invented the Margarita? Well, this year Kelly invented the Kellade.

      • Free Ginger (formerly known as wolverinedg) says:

        Sounds like a michelada, which has been drunk around here for years & years.


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      A person can be systematic in their bullying which is relentless.
      It’s not allowing someone else to talk or telling them to shut up. It is calling them names and making comments that are hurtful and lying about them. It is mocking and demeaning what someone does for a living or enjoys doing for fun. It is making fun of the way someone dresses, or talks or walks. It is done constantly, at every opportunity and without thought to who might also be present (these people will get the same treatment if they try to stop the behavior). That said, Kelly has systematically bullied Bethenny from the first episode she appeared in. Unfortunately, a bully like this will never acknowledge what they have done as wrong!

      SO hell yah, I am offended by what Kelly does and says and for taking a very real issue and hiding behind it as an excuse for her own behavior!

      • Kat says:

        So systematic bullying sort of means robotic/mechanical bullying; a thing that can be anticipated/counted on, measured for the desired effect and is premeditated.
        As opposed to bullying that happens coincidentally because you are at the wrong place at the wrong time.

        Bullying is a form of social violence.
        Killamity should take anger management courses until she grasps that she is a bully.
        But first things first, she needs to find her way to a good psychiatrist and remove Al Sharpton from Bethenny’s face.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          It is relentless – every opportunity is taken and that is Kelly. Bethenny really tries to ignore it and that is when Kelly goes ballistic because she is not getting the responses she is looking for.

          • Kat says:

            Relentless sounds hellish. Every person needs and deserves freedom from relentless bullying.
            Now I understand ‘”systematic”.
            Thank you very much.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Right and she likes to call people names but she uses the type of names a kid would use! Loudmouth????? Hobag???? Creepy!?

    • RAR says:

      “systematic bullying” was the phrase of the day in Kelly’s Sigmund Freud Psychiatric Desk Calendar

      • Kat says:

        That is funny and probable. Wait for “cigar” day. 8)
        Oh geeze then the cocaine.
        Kelly needs a Disney wall calendar.

  12. Silly String says:

  13. Silly String says:

    ooops trying again

  14. Adgirl says:

    I don’t think I understand what Jill is trying to accomplish by her media blitz. If she is trying to establish a brand then doesn’t she need something to sell (other than her failed book)?
    Otherwise it’s just rehashing her complaints about her cast members. How is that helping her build in the long run?

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Unbelieveable, Adgirl, I really think Jill thinks simply herself is the brand. I think she is trying to be a regular on some show – any show – ET, that local show she is always yapping about – any show. That’s what she thinks her brand is: herself.

      • dee says:

        Maybe she’s trying to create enough buzz around her making Bravo take notice that maybe there’s a show in there, somewhere. A show in the same vein of B getting pregnant, married while building her business, she probably envisions a show where they feature her trying to reclaim lost fans and building herself up to a sympathetic and likeable character and all the struggles that come with that Herculean feat.
        But she reminds me more of Prometheus. In that in her actions she does something nice and then undoes it by saying or doing something stupid. That makes us realize again that she is a horrible human being with no remorse. And there she is again, starting at the very foot of the mountain having to go up at it again, building that brand she lost.

        • moriasheehan says:

          well, lets get mythalogical, what about iccarus who tried to fly to the sun (fame) with feathers attached with wax (no talent) he crashed and burned

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jill trys to do things that look nice to others but are really not – like I am so happy for you doesn’t really mean Jill is genuine because she is thinking why not me?

      • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

        I think Jill is trying to be the next Kim Kardashian or Snooki. She is desperately trying to become famous. lol

        • dee says:

          I think at this point in time Snooki is better liked than Jill. That’s not a good thing, is it?

          • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

            Snooki is definitely more liked than Jill. lol

            • kats2 says:

              Dare I say that I think Snooki actually has more class then the whole NJ cast?
              Yep I said it and I support my comment.

              • dee says:

                Let me take that in and process it………..Okay, I’ll give you that she’s definitely klassier (yeah with a k) than Ashley, Teresa and Danielle. As for the rest, they’re not as bad as the Snooks. And yet, I do like her. All 4’5 of her.

        • emt2 says:

          ITA about the Kardashian claim. Jill likes to mention how well the Kardashian girls are doing but they have a lot more on their side. They are a Hollywood family and Kim is gorgeous (I wish she would stop messing with her face, though). Khole is married to a Laker and Kourtney has a new baby. I don’t particularly like the Kardashian brand but I see the appeal that they have. Lots of young girls and women think that they are pretty and fun.

          Jill doesn’t have a viable brand, per se. Her advice book doesn’t reflect her own actions. What else does she have? She wants to be famous for the sake of being famous and that will be her downfall. Even Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie, made and continue to make a living from being famous, run successful businesses and have great endorsements. I don’t think Zarin Fabrics is as profitable as Jill likes to claim.

          I’m not sure how many aspire to be Jill in the same way that some may aspire to be Kim or Paris or Nicole. Jill needs a new plan because this one isn’t working.

          I also love that Jill is in bed with Johnaton Cheban because his loyalty is to Kim and her family because Kim is the executive producer of his new show. Do you think that Kim is going to let Cheban work with Jill as much as Jill may want him to? Not so much.

          • dee says:

            Cheban has a show? Oh my.
            I don’t know if it’s about the Kardashians letting him spend more time with her. I think it’s Cheban not wanting to get sullied by a fading brand that he won’t be able to make shiny again.

            • Kat says:

              He’s going to need more than Viagra if he doesn’t stay out of that woman’s bed.

              Ugh muffins on the run.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Exactly! The others have products to sell – Jill thinks she is a product people want!

    • Kat says:

      Someone mentioned Jill was not well liked in high school. I think she desperately seeks (fame) approval and equates this with success and finally acceptance. She wants to “show them” and have her revenge.

      Poor Jill didn’t learn from her school experiences and still hasn’t developed mature social skills.

      She is a Narcissist and she feels she is owed our adoration and is entitled to all the business breaks and product discounts that come her way or the way of her acquaintances.

      Jill believes she deserves PRESS . All press will be good news for her. Even if we say we hate Jill Zarin, she knows her profile is heightened and by her own measurement she is made more successful and we will adore her once she arrives(fame).
      She is filling the abyss of her needs (grown now to self loathing ) with press scraps and sound bites.

      Jill is going to be pissed when she finds out that she has on no clothes and never has had any on because she never was “all that”.

      PS Jill in HS you should have listened to your peers, especially the critics. You should have embraced their honesty and grown from the experience.
      Now you listen to no one though you pay for advice. You are a narcissist and you suck emotional life from others. And you are an awful liar.
      You’re not equipped for friendship until you listen and stop the act that has become your dogma.

    • Viki55 says:

      That was the best yet!

      • dee says:

        THAT WAS AWESOME. Four things:
        1. That Meyers rum really reminded me of Kelly.
        2. Nice to see that I’m not the only one with cactus shot glasses.
        3. “I’m sorry”.
        4. What is that thing that is supposed to be Alex? It looks like it’s something you use to smoke pot from. Hey, don’t look at me that way. I have friends that did that sort of stuff.

        • Anitabee says:

          The only thing that would have made this funnier is IF the green shot glass had had a price sticker on its bottom.

    • Zee says:

      OMG So flippin funny. Thank you for sharing that gem. My day was pretty darn good, but now it rocks!! Even though I did accidently snort while chuckling and everyone here at work heard that.

    • yesIwatchthiscrap says:

      OMG Sooo FUNNY! Loved the Andy shot glass, and the “Bravo Bubble Mobile Fan Club Twitter Circle Party Float.” Love it!

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Wasn’t that hilariously brilliant? So freaking funny! The sweaty smily glass, the cactus glass for Jill, the paper towel sticking out for B’s dress … plume – hilarious stuff!

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          And a shout out to my home (and current) town! Go Cinci, Go Cinci! I love this even more now! 🙂

    • That was the BEST photo recap ever, and I follow them all. Love the B-Side!

      LuAnn’s only commentary: “Me, a snake?!”

      Lovessss it!!

    • Cheri says:

      That us so funny, loved it

  15. Katiecoo says:

    Before I split a shout out to “Had Enough!”. If you’re still out there, I think the coast might be clear for you to return??? Miss your posts!

  16. Silly String says:


    way better than the actual show, but i can’t get it to embed

    • moriasheehan says:

      so far it’s way tooooooo much dina, still. i can’t believe they didn’t choose only dina calls and twits so ramona can’t tell any secrets.

      • moriasheehan says:

        now more cat shit. i think it is deliberate,they don’t want ramona to answer any island questions. no way that ALL the calls and tweets were for dina. why even have ramona except to get us to warch a BORING show.

  17. skinnykiss says:

    Lynn you nailed it right on the head for me! You summed up this whole fiasco of a show in one blog. I also was disappointed at this weeks WWHL. I mean, the reunion should have been the main topic and by giving most of the airtime to Dina and her cat was truly a big mistake.(yawn) I have as much interest in why Dina left the show as I have to watch grass grow. Thanks for saying what most of us were thinking.

  18. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    If Kelly belived she was seriously bulllied why did she not make those PSA videos before the episode aired.
    I think she and her PR team had no idea how it was going to come across the screen or what would be edited or not. So they came up with this Bullying Bull!

  19. GloriasGlam says:

    Do you think the “secret” is that Danielle was the one Tommy cheated w/?

    • Viki55 says:

      I have been wondering about that also!

      • Zee says:

        That was the theory I posted on the last blog – it seems to make sense, although as gross as Danielle is, why hasn’t she made the claim? I dont see an ounce of decency in her so what would keep her from spillin it?

    • dee says:

      I think I read somewhere that it wasn’t the case. Was it here? Or Gawker? Either way, that’s what I read.

  20. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Thanks to you all from last post.

    This was too good not to carry over—And Vicki I recommend a good dosing with clorox, but that third eye can NEVER be cleansed! Lord I feel a 3 am terror coming on!
    vilzvet says:
    June 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    We need some laughter around here! The above just had me in stitches. Love those photo captions…

    Viki55 says:
    June 16, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    OH MY GAWD! I just opened it to Danielle’s split! I can never unsee that!

  21. kats2 says:

    Not to be all I told ya so – But the part of Alex’s blog about Kelly describes a spoiled rotten brat behavior, which is what I have been saying all along.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      I was sitting on that bench right next to ya, Kats2! I’ve thought all along she is simply dumber than rocks, spoiled and a vapid brat. I think she has been coddled all her life and can’t deal in the real world. What a combination.

  22. Hi All! I’m new here and have been a bumbling idiot with trying to post this vid (3rd attempt!) but it’s sooo awesome, haaaad to share!

    OMG– It’s a must watch video of Jillzilla’s cameo on Kathy Griffin’s My Life on the D List! She “pops in out of nowhere” (of course Bravo staged it) while Kathy Griffin and Paris Hilton are shopping in L.A. on Robertson Blvd., be-lines over to Paris, kisses major ass, name drops, and subtly (NOT!) suggests that SHE should be shopping with Paris. It’s CLASSIC Jill! Notice underneath Jill’s name: “Competing Bravolebrity”. Lol! WWHL will be interesting Thursday since Kathy G. is guest co-hosting. Can’t wait!

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Hee! Yay! I remember that episode. Kathy G just cracks me up. I hope she unleashes some hilarious somethings on Jill and LuMann and Kelly on WWHL. That would be awesome.

    • yesIwatchthiscrap says:

      OK I don’t like Kathy G that much. But I kind of love her now, that was awesome!

    • Squirrels says:

      Ain’t she grand?

    • TLM says:

      Jesus, is there ever a conversation Jill doesn’t work Zarin Fabrics into??!?!?

    • Jennifer says:

      I love Kathy and her show but if on Thur she defends Jill, I might like her less
      just sayin’

      • Jennifer says:

        Ok I also just have to say Z fabrics is not HER store, it’s Bobby’s
        I know married and equals and all that but honestly my husband built his business up and when I discuss I call it HIS because yes we’re married but he did the work. Sorry, I know it’ s petty but that bugged me

  23. Oh– she comes in at the 6:00 mark, in case you want to bypass Paris and Kathy G. whoring themselves out for the paparazzi. Lol!

  24. just sayin' says:

    RHNY was the first RH I have watched. I did watch the end of the OC (?) (where the lady married to the guy who appeared to be a jerk, ended up getting divorced). I tried to watch RHNJ because I saw the reunion after the buzz with the table throwing but to me it is unwatchable. What I read on this blog is more than enough information. I have high hopes for the new RH, I love politics (hate politicans :)), “Washington” implies politics to me, so I am hoping it will be interesting.

    • lillybee says:

      Does anyone know if OC will be back?

      • just sayin' says:

        I would at least like a where are they now special. I read that the divorce got nasty but who didn’t see that coming? I am going to go look up that lady’s name. I will let you know if i see anything about the show returning.

        • just sayin' says:

          Tamara was the lady from the OC, funny looked up her name and now I think I am spelling it wrong, shoooo. I didn’t see anything about if or when it is coming back. I did read an interesting article at a site that has been cited here before (10,000 papercuts) that pretty much indicated that she set out to make her husband look like a control freak villian.

          • emt2 says:

            I saw the OC a few times and the comment about Tamara making her husband into the villain is absolutely true. The marriage was in trouble because they had a lot of financial troubles and Simon wanted to take a break from being on the show in order to focus on their finances and family. Tamara, famewhore that she is, said NO, I’m the star. So she portrayed him as the villain. It was really sad.

            Now she is dating Simon’s friend. Can you believe it? She also throws it in his face that he is broke even though he has a job and supports the family. Tamara never worked. Ever. Well, I think her new job is gold digger.

            She’s not a good mother or wife, in what I’ve seen of her. Very selfish and wants to be a party girl even though she is in her 40s and has 4 children, one of which has been arrested for drug charges. She would prefer to work on her tan than be a good parent or good wife. She thinks that she is the hottest housewife. Not so much, Tamara.

  25. Kat says:

    Thank you Lynn.

    And thank you to every poster who persevered and or decided to stop back in.
    I have a deeper respect for a number of people who were able to articulate their ideas so eloquantly.
    I’d like to repost this from 6:58 this am. It was in response to a different troll.

    We stick together as necessity calls us, and of course we look after Lynn.
    We want a friendly place that welcomes new posters and is a fun and relaxing escape from real life.

    I surf the web and come across sites of interest and other blogs or forums that do not interest me at all. Birds of a feather I guess. I avoid Rush L. (others may like him – this is just me), I like RHONY and I landed here.
    I’ve been here a while and I hate seeing others mistreated. Most of the posters and lurkers here are like a cyber family. Good people.

    The sour trolls will move on in time.
    The ones that post about what terrible misguided souls we are to hate a tv character just don’t get it.

    I’m certain the internet has religious sites and may these troll find redirection there.
    My spiritual life is my own business. And if I have questions I am grown and capable, competent to take care of my own business and seek advice from someone other than an internet troll.
    Peace and Namaste friends.

    I’d like to add, I’m interested in your posts – basically – your brain, wit, intelligence,and your unique point of view. The internet is a equalizer is we allow to be.

  26. Squirrels says:

    Oooo. I think I just caught a small gemstone. @ appx. 39 mins into reunion 2 –

    Kelly – “… it’s called Kellade … and it’s delicious.”

    Andy – “Wow”.

    Luann – (listen carefully if you ever run across this segment)
    “Is that like beh (insert stumble) is that like the, uh, Mexican version of a Margarita?”

    I’m thinking she was going to say Bethenny’s version of a Margarita? Smooth exit Luann. Got to hand it to you. Only prob? Margaritas in Mexico are served very similarly to those in Spain, or the US or Sweden for that matter. But I give you kadooz for the smooth transition.

    Also the ladies helped bail her out by beginning another verbal round of, I’m at the top of the hill. Yak Yak Yak

    • dee says:

      Didn’t catch the “beh-” part. But I saw where she was going with her question. Because she was at the lunch where Kelly, snarkily asked if Bethenney created margaritas.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Did you catch Andy and Bethenny looking at each other as Kelly was telling eveyone about her new cocktail? Neither of them were about to open their mouths to tell her she didn’t come up with the idea!

  27. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    Is anyone going to be watching TOP CHEF Tonight?

    • Viki55 says:

      I will try. Usually when it first starts there are too many people for me to keep track of and it goes so fast! It gets easier as people leave. Does anyone else find it hard to follow in the beginning?

      • iceNfire says:

        LoL – does anyone here watch anything besides Bravo?
        I’m loving Hell’s Kitchen ( FOX ) Deadliest Catch ( DISCOVERY )
        & True Blood ( HBO) just sayin’

        • Ches says:

          Oh yeah….True Blood…..Can’t get enough……also Burn Notice is great.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I’ve read all Charlaine Harris’ series and while True Blood deviates from the books, it rocks as a series.

          • anniieee says:

            My daughter just gave me the series I am in the middle of book one …Dead Until dark.. Don’t get HBO–but may have to. The books are terrific.

    • kats2 says:

      Yes I will be. I have really turned into a Bravo ho-bag. I watch all the shows.
      HW, Kathy, 9bydesign, Top Chef (or Top Cook in case Kelly is surfing the blog today)

      I’m even watching that new one with Luann’s neice the artsy one produced by my gal SJP, it’s shockingly good and I’m learning so I too can be an art snob.

  28. Viki55 says:

    I just read the post on the last blog. Thank you Lynn!! You rock! I feel like it was all just a bad dream now;)

  29. TLM says:

    WTF happened with Jill’s voice in that Kathy G clip?? That was creepy…

  30. emt2 says:

    Wow! Why does Jill like to drag people into her mess? She recently met Broadway star Kristin Chenoweth and had her tweet the following:

    Jill Zarin is taking it the hardest on HOUSEWIVES. The others could be nicer. about 13 hours ago via txt

    Jill responded:


    1. @KChenoweth Thank you for all the love. We adore you! WICKED was out favorite show of ALL TIME. XOXO

    Jill is so messy and likes everyone else to be mired in her mess. It’s disgusting. Why do real celebrities may attention to Jill? It’s like feeding a troll.

    • I posted this in the wrong spot previously– duh! Still bumbling…

      From me (@MsBlazeAdams)
      “@Jillzarin Honey all the support from @KChenoweth & whomever else in “the biz” WILL NOT dig U out of the PR hell-hole u have dug for urself!”

      Damn those 140 characters! Lol! Should’ve done Twitlonger and got it all out there since she’s probably blocked me at this point.

      That felt good! Love Twitter!

    • Kat says:

      Jill is the Hotel California Roach motel to unsuspecting celebrities.
      And as we can see it all starts with a tweet.
      She will lure them in.
      She will take notes and plant bad press articles.
      Then jealously she will try to ruin them but take their place.

      This blog will catch her.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      I am Chenoweth fan and this does actually make me like her little less.

  31. JBnKC says:

    i totally agree with your comments.
    A 13 yr old boy watching the housewives show? Don’t you have a video game you should be playing? Ugh! Keep this kid off the air!
    Who cares if Dina leaves. Boring! As a matter of fact how about all of you leaving?
    Disappointed in WWHL. I would’ve preferred to hear what Ramona had to say but unfortunately I think the cat got her air time.
    And Teresa, don’t even get me started about her kids that misbehave and act like the biggest divas ever. I don’t envy her when they get older….Could not believe Teresa pulling out a wad of cash to pay for a couple thousand dollars worth of clothes for Gia…as she’s about to claim bankruptcy. Have you learned nothing? I cannot believe the IRS isn’t all over that. They paid cash for everything and claim they bring in only $79K a year? Riddle me this batman……how do they get away with that?
    And Danielle. Wow! Not enough time or space to talk about Danielle. Funny thing is, her kids are a lot brighter than her. I feel bad for them. I do wonder how far her thugs would go or if they’re just a lot of talk.

  32. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    @Viki55 I know waht you mean, but I like to watch to see who had potential from the beginning and who is cocky yet had no skills etc.

  33. From me (@MsBlazeAdams)
    @Jillzarin Honey all the support from @KChenoweth & whomever else in “the biz” WILL NOT dig U out of the PR hell-hole u have dug for urself!

    Damn those 140 characters! Lol! Should’ve done Twitlonger and got it all out there since she’s probably blocked me at this point.

    That felt good! Love Twitter!

  34. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    @ Squirrels, now that you mention Kellade, I really hope the Big project Kelly is working on and asking people to wish her luck on is not a brand of alcohol. So tired of these brainless bullys (Teresa, Kelly) riding on Bethenny’s coattails. She needs to Sue Kelly’s ASS if she does go there.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      what would it be called? Skinnybrain cocktails? I keep waiting for her to jump out in a wonder woman costume with a giant unicorn on the cape to fight the evils of stystamatic bullying and spread gum berrie love to all!

    • kats2 says:

      I thought it was the stupid feather jewerly??? I love birds and I don’t want to get all PETA but the thought of even dead birds having their feathers plucked to make her ugly jewerly is just awful.

      But I bet Kelly has always been a great feather wearer.

  35. Adgirl says:

    Bside stills were hilarious. The shot glasses were way better than screen shots.
    Cactus for – Jill
    Meyers Rum for – Special K(elly)

    what was the one for Alex – a shoe?? Too hard to make out.

    • dee says:

      It looks like a pipe you smoke weed out of.

    • B-Side says:

      Thank you all for the link love and for reading my shot glass photocap!

      “Alex” is actually a bottle corker. Unfortunately, it took a trip down the in-sink-erator; hence, the rather tribal scratches (someone emailed me asking if it was an African tribal mask).

      Anyway, hope that clarifies things (although, I did like all the guesses. Dang, hope I didn’t ruin the fun). Who knows, maybe I’ll do another one for part III.

      • Hi B-Side! Thanks for clarifying! I will re-post for you on the most current blog as well. Awesome, awesome job on the recaps. The shot glasses are winners! The The onion was funny too!

  36. dee says:

    Does anyone know the original/real name of the Kellade drink? I refuse to go to a bar and ask for a Kellade. That’s why I need to know.

  37. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    @Duchess of Dryer Lint , LOL! Great now you gave Kelly and idea. She will no go around in her cape and do special appearances at schools near you. Parents Hide your children.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Oh, now see, there is a visual! and Jill could be her sidekick like that Zena and her little red headed buddy! LOL

      • moriasheehan says:

        what about her batman and robin analogy when talking about mr right now, no mr right, now, no…… aren’t batman and robin both male? so she wants a relationship like a man who’s a cape wearing bat lover who hangs out with underage boys and they both wear tights and fight with other weird guys in costumes.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      Most schools have a dress code. I’m pretty sure pants are required.

    • Squirrels says:

      wow, that’s interesting. NJ beat out NY.

      could it be too many people are fed up with the BS?

      either way, Bravo will certainly take notice.

      • just sayin' says:

        That is what I thought (NJ beat NY?), that many people watch RHNJ? Live and learn, I guess :).

      • I bet NJ’s ratings were because of Teresa’s “bankrupt” story that hit the news the week before. My blog blew up from my post about it. Personally, I was daring Bravo to show that bish throwing out cash to shop for those spoiled brats of hers. Notice there wasn’t one sign of her sign of her, or the girls…just Juicy Joe spending oodles of cash on meat and booze. Guess they felt that was a better look than Teresa throwing around thousands in cash in an overpriced babytroll boutique.

      • Squirrels says:

        Could it be Jill’s fans tuned in on Tuesday instead?

  38. MAMAZ says:

    Good afternoon ladies! I had a busy day today, not much time to get on.
    That Kellade drink has been around forever. It’s a poor man’s Margarita.
    I guess the Countless is too elegant for tequila so she didn’t know margaritas ARE Mexican. I’m sure she only drinks Dom Perignon and pees Cristal.

    • dee says:

      Unfortunately I can only afford to drink Andre and piss Cook’s.

    • Jennifer says:

      Wait how is Patron poor? And is there beer in a margarita?

      • MAMAZ says:

        Most people don’t use Patron. It’s kind of a college/young adult drink. They use cheap tequila. And no there is no beer in a Margarita. That’s why this is the poor mans’ version. You need less tequila because you get a buzz from the beer.

        • GreatExpectations says:

          I’m telling ya, Kelly is hanging out with young guys like Sam Talbot and she thinks she 19 and partying down saying “Hieeee” and they are teaching her this stuff.

      • Jennifer says:

        Oh wait nevermind I get it now duh!

  39. kats2 says:

    I just remembered the whole Kelly Fur thing was not discussed yet on the reunion show, they better talk about that on Part 3 and nail her for her stupidity for being a great fur wearer.

    • dee says:

      Didn’t that discussion take place on WWHL? Maybe because it took place on that show and not RHoNY there is no need to bring it up?

    • Squirrels says:

      So many subjects, so little time.

      • dee says:

        Really!!!!! They should just air everything filmed that day. Everything.

        • Just done says:

          New here to posting, but thanks to you guys I haven’t kept up with my housework, cooking, etc.! Thanks 🙂

          I just read the story about B sending Ally a gift, so therefore in Jill’s eyes she was “warming up to Jill.” Now, if she DIDN’T send a gift, Jill would have been all over her like flies on sh*t, or as Ramona would say, “white rice!” LOL

          I hate this woman!

  40. Jennifer says:

    Has anyone actually ever drank Patron, beer and lemonade here? I really imagine it would taste like shit….. So can someone tell me if it’s actually any good? I’ve never heard of mixing liquor and beer and I was a bartender in college

    • MAMAZ says:

      Plenty of times in my younger days. Not with Patron though, back then we bought cheap tequila. It’s surprisingly good.

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Hi everyone.

      Was passing by and thought I would stop in. When I was younger, liquor and beer mixed together used to be called a boilermaker. I think. LOL.

      • MAMAZ says:

        A boilermaker is when you drop a shot of whiskey, glass and all into a beer mug and chug the whole thing down. At least that’s what we called a boilermaker. There might be different regional types.

      • Kat says:

        I thought that was a shot chased with a beer. 😉
        I am wrong plenty though.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:


    • Small Town Mama says:

      I wondered the same thing. It sounds awful.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yeah in my stupid younger days and we used Jose Cuervo. Still tasted like shit!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Patron Silver is my preferred tequila. To use Patron in that mix (beer & lemonade) is a criminal waste of good tequila. Just IMO.

      • Kat says:

        I’ve never had Patron but it sounds like mixing it is borderline criminal stupid like pouring tea into fine wine.

  41. Brianna says:


    Bravo seems to be publishing a LOT of positive comments on Jill’s blog! Crap, I hope that doesn’t mean they are going to try to make her the “favorite” again.

    Dina wanting to join RHNY? I don’t know. Trading Danielle for Kelly? Not much of a bargain when you are trying to avoid the insane. http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/videos/more-time-with-dina-and-ramona

    • dee says:

      I don’t know about making her the favorite again. But it looks like they are paving the way to keeping her on for next season.

      • Brianna says:

        Maybe Jill just has PR people posting hundreds of positive comments each hour and Bravo actually thinks the public is “trending” towards the whole stop apologizing, you are so classy, you are still my favorite, everyone makes mistakes, you are great Jill crap?

    • Hooked On Housewives says:

      Bravo seems to be publishing a LOT of positive comments on Jill’s blog! Crap, I hope that doesn’t mean they are going to try to make her the “favorite” again.

      Although it would stink big time if Bravo did make Jillousy all sweet in season 4, I have to think that Bravo always has the eye on the bottom line. In their book what would be better than good girl gone bad gone back to good girl again. Maybe they think Jillousy has fallen on her sword enough and deserves to be back as their hook. Just thinking out loud.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      All Bravo blogs have been too positive the last week – I am wondering if they are really censoring at a higer level. SO I posted one nice and one not nice to each of the women on NY and NY to see if this might be the case. So far none have appeared and it has been two days.

  42. boston02127 says:

    Ahhhh, Lynn came in with the Febreze. Thx Lynn.

  43. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    Smells nice right Boston? LOL!

  44. Jessie says:

    Just had to post this. I was banned from TWOP…i seriously never even post at places (i have here though lately!) and I have been around TWOP forever and they banned me for calling them out. I personally find it pretty ironic…

    Banned for ignoring the pinned note. RHONJ

    I posted:

    OK so TWOP can write an article snarking about NJ Housewive bankruptcy, but god forbid the forum does. Way to stay consistent there. I know this won’t be posted, but it will be read and that is what matters. Don’t you find that kinda of contradictory?

    By the way, the closing of the NY thread and the monitoring of the NJ thread is why everybody is going elsewhere to talk about the shows. Figure out what kind of website you want people. You really are taking the without pity out of this site.

    But after my original post and even up until today there are posts that reference her bankruptcy. They seriously have issues there.

    Lynn I love you posts and I love the followers you have. I totally want to know what else you watch and at the same time recommend you start a blog on those shows. Nowhere else (except tvgasam) can I find such a place to talk/read about these kind of shows and get the information that so pertains to them unedited.

    • lillybee says:

      Good for you. It needed to be said.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Hi Jessie! I’m glad you’re here! I pretty much have Bravo on most of the time. I’ll be watching Top Chef and the Art competition looks pretty good so far. I can’t remember its name but the one SJP produced. I’ll definitely be watching the new HW franchises too!

      I’ll most likely watch Big Brother but you can all discuss ANY show or ANY topic you want to. If there’s something you want to discuss, you will probably find someone here who will talk about it with you! 🙂 Thanks!

  45. Scorpiosue says:

    I watched the WWHL after show and it was much better than the regular WWHL. At the end Andy said something to Dina about not seeing the last of her (maybe she’ll pop in at Caroline’s…who knows) then to Ramona where she says something like “You’re not getting rid of me.” Hoping Ramona is back next year because seriously we all know they’ll bring back RHONY.

    Ramona also said that she did make a snap judgement about Alex when she first met here because she said she thought Alex was co-dependent on Simon and it reminded her of her parents so this year she was giving her another chance. Ramona then said that she really like Alex. Same with Bethenny (who Ramona invited to the Hamptons). It also seemed from one comment that she was better friends with them than Jill and LuAnn even though she has known Jill and LuAnn longer. Regarding Kelly Ramona said, “Can anyone really be friends with Kelly?” and she got the uncomfortable, agreement from Andy.

    • Brianna says:

      I agree! It also further explains Dina’s decision to leave the show.

      I wouldn’t want to be involved with either Kelly OR Danielle! I think they are scary, like physically scary. I would actually be more than annoyed and uncomfortable, I would be afraid of their retaliations or tempers.

      Then again, I think the Manzos are scary too. But for Dina, at least those people are family, and not likely to hurt her, unless she is in the wrong place and the wrong time and gets gunned down in an old fashioned mob hit.

      Kelly though? I think she could flip and try to kill someone. Danielle? I think it’s mostly an act for show time, but she surrounds herself with such scum, who wants that rubbing off on them.

      Good for her for walking away from that show, but telling Andy she would be open to being on a different one. Major kudos for keeping her kid away from this insanity too. First by taking her off the show, and second by removing herself as well.

      Ditto to Bethenny for drawing the line in the sand. Kelly stays, Bethenny is gone.

  46. emt2 says:

    Kelly being stupid again. I feel bad for her because she CLEARLY does not have a good PR person.

    • dee says:

      I thought “boundaries” where supposed to be good. I guess they’re not. I need to re-assess my life. No more boundaries. Whoo-hoo!

    • anniieee says:

      Well I am on a diet..so that helped… just blew my dinner.

  47. Hooked On Housewives says:

    During the second reunion Kelly was spouting something about calling her agent who told her to stay on the boat and they would have an intervention with Bethenny. Has anyone else heard about this? Has it come up anywhere else? Was it just another piece of “I just made this shit up” from Kellamity?

    • kats2 says:

      Yes, just made up shit to make B look bad. It’s hard to hear but after/during B denies that ever happened, both R and A state it never happened.

      • desertgal66 says:

        Sonja was nodding along with R and A when they said it never happened.

        The whole thing is so Kelly-brand stupid. She’s 41 years old, with, presumably, money in the bank. She not only wasn’t ‘forced’ to go, she could have left at any time. She wasn’t the only dinghy on the yacht.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      I’m sure she also called Gwyneth, Rachel and lastly Sam Talbot to talk about who is a chef and who is a cook. 😉

      • Squirrels says:

        can someone fill me in on the sam talbot deal?

        • Scorpiosue says:

          Last year Sam cooked for her on the show as her “friend”, but earlier this year he and Kelly were see an events together before and after he split from his wife. Nothing confirmed though, but speculation that they were together.

    • Kat says:

      I wonder the going rate for a PR agent to indulge a client’s delusion?
      An intervention for Bethenny? I’m bringing a bag of gummibears for Kelly, she’ll need them. I’ll keep her Patron. She doesn’t drink. 8)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I thought Kelly said they HAD an intervention with Bethenny and that was clearly not true according to Bethenny’s facial expressions.

      • Kat says:

        You are correct, my bad! I should have used the word WITH not “for”. Thank you. 😉
        I’d still like to see this.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly’s disconnect – her agent told her to stay but she thinks it’s Bravo that told her to stay.

  48. Brianna says:


    So cute!

    • WOW is she really running with the Countess/Class thing! Did she actually say, “Turn your ring around before you slap the help– the first time.” ???

    • Lol. This makes me hate her less.

    • Jennifer says:

      I like her a bit more now 🙂

    • myname2use4now says:

      I’m thisclose too starting a “Free LuAnn!” campaign. She soooo wants to be on team BRAS and away from Jill and Kelly. The video shows that she’s got a sense of humor about herself, something that Jill and Kelly don’t have. I hope she cuts lose and that the next season is her learning to ditch the countess nonsense and free the bad singing, Courte kissing, LuAnn.

      • Kat says:

        If she loses the royal chip on her shoulder she will feel lighter. 🙂
        I really liked the video, Luann was almost normal.

  49. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet: In boston airport. Go celtics?
    Eww, Kelly was in Boston.
    Kelly stay out of Boston. We have no patience for inarticulate, mindless, moronic, naive, nonsensical, feebleminded, dull, pointless, simple-minded, insignificant, senseless, unintelligent, incoherent, dim-witted, half-baked, half-witted, imbecilic, insane, slow, dumb, meaningless, pointless, unimportant, inappropriate, irrelevant people like yourself.

  50. degroohj says:

    This was posted by Ram62393 on the IMDB message boards on RHONY…hysterical!

    “Here are some helpful words of wisdom Kelly gives on different things of life. She has some really great things to say!

    *(inside front cover)

    Kelly on throwing up…
    “I was having nightmares. I have been. I threw up. But I was. I threw up the night before I came, thinking that Bethenny was gonna frickin kill me, cause she’s tried to kill me so many times before.”

    Kelly on sleep exhaustion and gumbearies…
    “I am so tired. I’m taking my la-la… my lollipops and gumbearies.”

    Kelly on candy…
    “I saw these jellybeans. My jellybeans. And I’m like, if I don’t fricken, If I don’t… I BROUGHT candy (meth) with me, cause I like candy, and there’s no… I didn’t know if they were gonna have candy.”

    Kelly on Bethenny…
    “She tries to literally claw your eyes out. It just… it creeps me out. She’s crazy. Before I came here, I’ve had nightmares for the last week about her stabbing me. I’m not kidding you. Like, I have her with that black hair like ERR ERR ERR and I’m like UHH UHH UHH!
    “You’re not a chef. You’re a cook. It’s creepy.”

    Kelly on her eclectic sense of taste
    “Now wait..just listen, I have an 18th century chandelier on a pulley. You know, I just have a very eclectic sense of, you know, taste.”

    Kelly on “the facts”:
    “You asked me, and I’m telling you the facts. I give you the facts. You want the facts? Those are the facts.”

    Kelly on Bethenney’s world:
    “Welcome to Bethenney’s world of like how people are, like, are asking about her”

    Kelly on White Noise:
    “This is like white noise, this is like all, you guys are all white noise. All white noise. Ramona is white noise. You guys are like white noise. You are white noise.”

    Kelly on Bethenny crying:
    “Are you gonna apologize for crying? Or making her cry? You told me everything. You told me that you made her cry. She made her cry. She made her cry. You made Bethenny cry.”

    Kelly on feelings”
    “Oh my god. This is free to be…you and me…1979.”

    Kelly on Alex:
    “And, this black eye makeup and white face. She was a kabuki. You were like white face and black eyes. And I was like, Holy sugar! She was like channeling like a vampire.”

    (BTW these quotes are straight from the show!) “

  51. KC from TX says:

    Been lurking here for a long time, nice place to escape to, thanks.

    The extended after show on WWHL was good with R&S, it got me to looking at some of the others. What I found was one with Sonja and Luann which was done right after they introduced Sonja.

    In this segment, Andy asks Sonja to give impressions of each HW. When it came to Jill, she gave some sappy answer about Jill on the show not being the Jill she see’s in Jill’s book (she references the book because said she didn’t really know Jill). Luann jumps in to defend, and says something to the effect that she thinks Jill was trying to be like Bethanny kind of funny and it didn’t work.

    So this is where Jill got her excuse, as this was filmed well before the reunion.


  52. Jenni says:

    Preview of what we will probably be seeing on Thursday, but I had not seen this one before. Kelly on the Bethenny dinner night, more about cook vs chef, bullying, etc.

    Luanne on her song, and Coerte (or however you spell it). Warning: Gag alert.

    • Scorpiosue says:

      How is it that mentally unstable Kelly can really sit there and blame Ramona and Sonja’s action on alcohol?!?!?!?!? Amazing how delusional Kelly is. The others don’t get that Kelly is not going to understand what they are saying. Quite scary.

  53. iceNfire says:

    Lynn – I’m so happy to read that you will be blogging about Big Brother! I was beginning to think that this is a Bravo site and that I had been lured here under false pretense. OK I didn’t really think that but I do think that this blog has given Bravo way too much free publicity. and to that I say
    are my favorites

  54. GreatExpectations says:

    I don’t know if anyone posted this but on Jezebel they quote from Intouch Weekly:

    ‘Kelly Bensimon’s former nanny says Kelly starts her day by spiking her coffee with tequila. The nanny was the fourth person in four months to work for Kelly, and at Kelly’s daughter’s school, the lady at the front desk told the nanny: “I hope you don’t have a breakdown like the last lady.”‘

  55. Looks like Bravo has exhausted itself and given in the the “real” comments on Jill’s latest blog. Though, it’s still a rather “forgiving” comment (more towards the end) she does tell her like it is. I was going to boycott Bravo’s site but broke-down in favor of preview clips for part 3. Decided to “glance” at Jill’s blog comments (didn’t bother reading the actual blog) and this was on top… The one below was short and sweet so I posted it as well.

    From Jennifer Snook:

    Dear Jill…
    First let me say that I absolutely LOVED you in the beginning…you were far and away my favorite. However, during season 2, I noticed a distinct arrogance that had been absent previously. It seems to me that the machine that is instant celebrity really got its claws into you, and you became the reality star who ran on the platform of “Live Life the Right Way…live it the way I Think You Should”. I had a friend in High School like you. She wanted to be the boss of our group, the ALPHA friend,making sure we did things how she thought they should be done..acting as if she were our mother, teacher, judge and jury! Let me tell you something Jill, being the friend of that type of person is EXHAUSTING!It sucks the life out of you! The score keeping, manipulating situations so you can look like the “good” friend. Its sick…and smacks of painfull insecurity.Which was probably infused by the competition factor that lies within “celebrity” I don’t blame Alex for feeling the need to unleash. You have repeatedly, over the 3 seasons made numerous digs at her and the things she loves the most. I believe in an attempt to keep the peace, she tried to accept the apologies and move on. But, let’s face it, when someone hurts you, you DON’T forget it…and that does make one resentful. So, yes, she wanted to hurt your heart, when she delivered the “message”…as you had done to her. Was the way she did it right…absolutely not. She should have delivered her own message to you…privately. Jill, please don’t be that “mean girl in High School”…you claim to be a sophisticated lady that cares about people…act like it!I mean Jesus Jill…remember in 2nd grade when girls said “Don’t be friends with her, cause I don’t like her”…THAT is how your acting!! And I don’t believe that is the “true” Jill. I know your heart is hurting…I completely believe you, I genuinely do. But Jill…PLEASE, STOP “behaving”….I’m SO sick of all of this “behaving” talk. Luanne and all the “talk” about what makes for proper behavior. It doesn’t matter if you live in NYC, New Jersey, Atlanta, DC, Orange County or Zimbabwe…good behavior is simple…Do to Others What You Would Want Done To YOU!! And Jill, for the love of God, remember that we all make transgressions, so don’t judge so harshly. Again, you want people to forgive you..lighten the hell up and start forgiving people. It’s life…ENJOY it!! BE the change you want to see in the world!! I look forward to the congruent Jill…when what she says aligns with how she acts!! Just be YOU…genuinely YOU…if after that you still need PR people to help spin you, than you’re not the person that I believe you to truly be. Remove the claws of celebrity and watch how quickly public opinion will change! I’m rooting for you! Cheers,J

    From Chris in Florida:

    You just don’t seem genuinely sorry or apologetic!
    I have a saying “I always forgive, but I would have to be an idiot to forget!” You are right about one thing comedy is not your forte’. Treat people the same way you want them to treat you it’s very simple and it works!

  56. GreatExpectations says:

    So, is Kelly simply an alcoholic? Maybe we’ve over analyzed her? Is it as simple as that?

    • Kat says:

      I’ve never met a drunk that could touch Kelly with a crazy stick even during a 50 yr blackout. All types of drinkers but no satchels of gold.

      • GreatExpectations says:

        What about a starving 41-year old woman? I remember sorority girls in college who were on alcohol only diets. They slowly went insane over the semester.

      • Kat says:

        I can’t say she wasn’t drinking but I believe there is more to Kelly’s story than alcohol. Self medicating maybe. Multiple problems. 😉

    • boston02127 says:

      @GreatE~I think she’s an alcoholic. (big time)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Booze added liberally to someone with a very low IQ, no social skills, easily manipulated, a clear dislike for women, who has created a fantasy world to live in and you have one big slamming hot mess!

      • Kat says:

        Most drinkers are either happy and fun or cry in their beer and pass out. She wasn’t slurring her words that I noticed, but tolerance can account for that. But Kelly rarely makes sense and I don’t think her incoherent utterings are a reliable field test. She may have been under the influence of substances and mentally ill. Just my opinion.
        I hope they show more “lost” footage.

  57. Adgirl says:

    If that’s true about Kelly it is immensely sad.

    • GreatExpectations says:

      I don’t know. I think mental illness would be harder. I read that with almost a sense of relief. I know, but watching her on tv like this has been too much. Maybe her problems are simple. That would be an immense relief to me!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        While Ramona will likely never share it – I wonder what the psychologist told her when she called that night……….and why Jill didn’t care enough about her pet monkey to change her SURPRISE! visit.

  58. Adgirl says:

    Maybe Kelly’s “last lady” (presumably a nanny) had a “break through” not a “break down. Silly receptionist got it mixed up.

    • GreatExpectations says:

      Let’s hope so! I’m sure Kelly tried to convince her that was the case.

    • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

      Ha! I have to learn not to read with my mouth full – I’ll never get the screen clean!!!!

  59. Brianna says:


    Do I think Jill was happy for Bethenny when she got her own show? Yes, actually I do. I also think she was jealous as h-e-double hockey sticks, because she wanted it to be a show for the two of them, like Laverne and Shirley. Yes, she really did tell us to boycott Bethenny. Yes, even recently Jill also called places like the Wendy Williams show to complain about Bethenny getting airtime and not her. She made that call this spring – a couple of months after the season was filmed. That leads me to believe that all this remorse and change of tune is based on the viewers’ reaction, not a real change of heart about the loss of a friendship.

    • GreatExpectations says:

      I think she wanted to be the headliner on any new show. If she had stayed nice she would have been heavily featured on B’s new show, but even that stung her pride.

  60. Jenni says:

    Has anyone checked the petition recently? I wonder how many signatures there are now?

    • 1518 sigs. The petition ends after part 3 of the reunion.

      • Jenni says:

        That’s pretty good, I would think it is something like in politics. For every one letter they get (or signature) they would have to figure there are a number of people that feel the same way, but don’t voice there opinion. I forget what the multiplier is, but I think it is rather high…

  61. Squirrels says:

    Another fun tidbit from our favorite ankle biter –


    Ya know those green louboutins @jillzarin wore at the reunion? Taste like chicken.”

  62. Olivia says:

    I am convinced that Jill Zarin would make an appearance at the opening of a manhole cover if there was a photographer present. Her need for “fame” is even greater than Paris Hilton if that is at all possible.

    Even now she is probably considering a sex tape of her own because, let’s face it, it made “stars” out of Kim Kardashian, Pamela Anderson, and Paris herself. Whatever it takes, Jill, whatever it takes.

    Just as Paris incorporated the words “hot” and “cool” into her limited use of the English language, count on Jill to use “sorry” and “pissed” on a rival front.

    • Jenni says:

      So glad to see you came back! Love your comments….

    • Squirrels says:

      Yes Olivia, but Paris was hilarious on My Life on the D List.

      Jill just looked like a buttinski.

    • KookADoodleDo says:

      It would NOT surprise me if Jill wasn’t begging for a spot on the next “Dancing With The Stars”! She is desperate to stay “famous”, but yet refuses to sincerely take any responsibility for her behavior.
      When will this nightmare end?

  63. Small Town Mama says:

    If Kelly comes back next season I won’t watch it. Kelly is a danger to herself and I worry she’ll have complete breakdown like Britney Spears. It’s the same reason why I stopped watching RHONJ after episode 3. Danielle is going to hurt someone and I refuse to watch it. I won’t be watching WWHL when she is on either. It’s not good drama or even good TV. It sad and scary that these 2 women are out of control and no one (I’m looking at you Bravo) is putting an end to it. I know Andy said it’s not up to them to reward or punish behavior but these two women are beyond normal reality crazy.

    • kats2 says:

      IMO Kelly is only hurting herself and the same with Danielle (well of course their kids too) As crazy as Danile comes off and the Manzo’s none of them would keep taunting each other if there was any real danger and they sure wouldn’t do it on camera.

      I’m more worried about Ashley hurting other people, she admits to having anger issues and she needs help with her rage.

      • Small Town Mama says:

        With Danielle it’s not so much her personally hurting someone but the company she keeps. She encourages violence and threatening behavior on her behalf. It may be just for the cameras but someday she is going to encourage and egg on the wrong person and someone will get hurt.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Exactly, Danielle will incite violence and then claim she didn’t do anything! I’d love for Bravo to host a bitch off – Jill vs Danielle (winner gets to stay on their respective show) – it would be hilarious!

    • Does anyone else remember the spa scene when Kelly tells the other ladies that she was severely depressed after giving birth, and she was paranoid and always thinking bad things will happen and she didn’t want to leave the house?
      Well it doesn’t seem like she ever got better. She was willing to admit that she HAD a problem, so does no one close her realise that she STILL HAS a problem?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        maybe that is part of why Kelly has to have a fantasy world to live in – she didn’t get professional help when it might have helped.

  64. Squirrels says:

    Were I to ever bother sending Jill a gift, it would be a set of Ginger sized flying monkey wings.

    Jill can figure out the rest.

  65. GreatExpectations says:

    Tequila in coffee? Patron and beer with orange lemons? These are Kellyland drinks? Words like Hobag? I think she’s hung around her younger boytoys too much.

  66. Barb says:

    My post on Teresa’s blog, lets see if they’ll approve it… She’s an idiot!

    Fm: Owl Sharpton
    What’s with the love fest on this board? What is this 1979? Teresa runs her mouth and everyone showers her with “light and love”? Get real! Teresa needs to concentrate on her issues not Danielle’s and definitely not on a completely different show! I’m disappointed in the behavior of a woman and/or group of women who decide that they are going to gossip and twist the truth… Not to mention outright lie… In your own words Teresa “Who does that?” Grow up and take care of your family because in my opinion you have neglected that responsibility in a major way. And taking care of your own means teaching them right from wrong. Do right by the people you owe, do right by the people around you whether you know them or not and you should never say anything about anyone… ever… if your own pedestal has cracks. A little civility goes along way.

  67. Adgirl says:

    @ Small Town Mama – I totally agree about Danielle. She has already hurt her children with the pole dancing and sex tapes. They would have been spared all this public humilation if Danielle had never graced our screens.
    I’m sure she’ll need to amp it up next season.

  68. kats2 says:

    I think I might have figured out the comment Kelly made about being forced by Bravo to go on the trip and why Kelly acted the way she did on the trip (a lot of the following also applies to Jill). Of course Kelly or Jill would never admit this but here’s what I think happened. It’s important that you keep in mind that Kelly is a very self-centered, jealous, spoiled rotten brat.

    A key part of the show for all the HW’s is getting time on camera, it’s critical to surviving, being relevant and making the cut (case and point – RIP Jen)

    The girls trip was going to be a big part of this season. A lot was invested by Bravo in the trip and 2 episodes were basically dedicated to the trip. While they showed other stuff happening back home during the trip it really wasn’t much of anything else and I wonder if any of it was actually filmed while the trip was happening. (Luann had that date with the Rod Stewart and Jill and Luann had that boring dinner at Mr. Chow when they set up the whole Jill surprise visit deal).

    I think it’s safe to assume that while the majority of the HW’s were on the trip the HW’s who stayed behind didn’t have a lot of HW Work/Filming going on. Wouldn’t the Bravo crew be on the trip with the HW’s?

    I believe Kelly really didn’t want to go on the trip and that she really doesn’t like Ramona, Bethenny and Alex. And it came down to Bravo telling Kelly IF she wanted the camera time the trip was the only way that was going to happen, so go on the trip or deal with not being filmed. I do not believe Bravo said you better go or your fired (which to me would be forcing her or putting her in a position where she was left with no other choice).

    So how does a spoiled, self-centered brat react to doing things they don’t want to do? Alex states it in her blog “From the very moment we landed at the airport she (Kelly) kept saying contradictory things and getting randomly aggressive.”

    Kelly went on that trip with a huge chip on her shoulders and feeling sorry for herself that in her mind she had to do something she didn’t want to do. What we watched unfold on that trip was an adult version of a child flailing about on the floor having a Major Temper Tantrum. And when Alcohol was added to the mix TADA! It got even worst and spiraled out of control.

    Poor little Kelly didn’t get her way and she was going to ruin the entire experience for everyone else. I bet she had the option of leaving at any time but at her own expense. But NO, she stayed, until the tantrum got so out of control she had to be removed by Bravo.

    • Squirrels says:

      <<<< hums the Partridge Family tune, "I think I love you".

      As an added treat, that memory should knock out any by products of Luann's that which cannot be spoken.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Frankly speaking, the ladies who did not go on the vacation and the one who thought she was forced to go would not have added to the fun! Jill has been into teams since season one – and it is the losing one! LuAnn will gracefully snake herself away from Jill and Kelly won’t notice or care. Next season IMO, LuAnn will have her nose up Sonja’s butt, thus getting her into the sunshine camp. And the cheese will definately stand alone because Kelly will not be back if public opinion plus employer liability risk prevail.

    • I believe Kelly went on the trip to do Jill’s dirty work and it totally backfired. She wasn’t smart or cunning enough to pull off Jill’s agenda (not that Jill is either): Sabotaging Bethenny and her show by turning the fans against her. “You’re not a chef” “You’re a ho-bag” “I’m afraid she’s going to kill me”. Big fat FAIL!

  69. error 404 says:

    Huh? I can’t believe how many people are posting to Alex’s Bravo bold that Kiki WAS bullied by the other women on the trip! How is it even possible to watch the show and come to that conclusion? I’m stumped!

    • Brianna says:

      Jill’s PR team is flooding the Bravo board.

      The only option is to flood the board with support posts. I think Bravo tries to post a “balance” of what they receive.

      1 per 100 get posted or something. They just don’t have the capacity to post them all. So, they look at the trends and post a representative sample of pro or con posts. People that give up trying to post because they never see theirs posted? Doesn’t really mean that Bravo isn’t taking those into account.

      No way in hell Jill would have posted her blog there (finally!) without a plan in place, and I think she knows how it works over there.

      Bottom line? POST. If there are as many negatives as positives, SOME will show up. I have had a couple of my posts posted there, out of dozens submitted.

    • kats2 says:

      I’m sure there are a team of people who are getting paid to post that stuff.

      • Brianna says:

        Exactly, and they were ready to go when Jill finally posted her blog. There were probably hundreds of fake email addy’s and posts sent them moment that blog went up.

        Jill’s huge PR team is earning their money. BUT that is why it’s important to post the flip side of their spin, even if your particular posts doesn’t show up.

    • moriasheehan says:

      bravo seems to pick and choose which comments to post. i have left one for every HWNY since the first season started, for every episode and not one has been posted. that’s alot of comments. i have never been abusive or written bad language and not called them any names. just wondering.

      • Brianna says:

        The seem to post more short and pithy comments, OR long ones, IF those have obviously bad spelling or grammar.

        Other than that, they also post a lot of emotional/overly-invested comments, some with a bit of “balance” or talking about how much they love the show or one of the housewives.

        • moriasheehan says:

          why would they want misspelled comments?

          • Brianna says:

            No idea, making fun of the viewers maybe? I just see a LOT of stuff like that there.

            their for they’re
            miss used pronouns, she for her, or me for I
            your for you’re
            or just basic misspellings

            It’s as if the interns screening the comments are snickering about their viewers, and prefer to make us look stupid.

    • Squirrels says:

      It’s all going to come out after gag order is up. Should be quite a ride.

  70. Anitabee says:

    Let’s play Kelly Kontradictions.

    I think LuAnn has her own version that she states on tomorrow’s reunion. I believe it’s her attempt to jump off her team and onto the other couch. She says something like to Kelly like you’re shy but you posed for Playboy.

    I’ll start us off with a simple one:

    Kelly says: ” I don’t drink”.
    Kelly Kontradition: “I invented Kellyade. It’s lemonade, patron, and beer. It’s great.” (P.S. we also know that Kelly is an ambassador for partron…eye roll.)

  71. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    By the By darlings, did I tell you that I am in the process of penning my own contribution to the literary world? Working title is Divine Distinction with the Duchess. I figure a duchess trumps some classless countess in the etiquette department! 🙂 🙂

  72. TLM says:

    On the death of Bobby Frankel and Jill:

    First, can I say, between being berated by Jill over her husband’s Bobby Z’s illness and dealing with her rotten father Bobby F as he was dying during the same period, Bethenny probably never wants to hear the name “Bobby” again in this lifetime. No one seems to have mentioned the irony that these men had the same name, and Bobby Z was probably a bit like a second father to her. I can’t even imagine being her and going through that time period.

    Jill is amazingly predictable. I think the only reason she was upset about not knowing Bobby Frankel died when he did was so that she could ride in on a white horse and be Bethenny’s savior for all to see. It’s all about making impressions with her. She missed that chance by her own choice, so it pissed her off. The problem is that people see through her now and probably think she does things just to look good even when she genuinely cares. She destroyed her own reputation.

    I also agree with Alex about the Internet. We know Jill had Google alerts set up for Bethenny, so a story about Bobby dying would have pulled up under Bethenny’s name. Knowing what a busybody she is, I find it hard to believe Jill didn’t also set up a Google alert for “Frankel” by itself. If Bethenny’s father had not been famous, maybe she wouldn’t have found anything. But the truth is that he was world-renowned in the horseracing trade, and his death was all over the Internet as soon as it was announced. But let’s go with what Jill said, and say we believe her that she didn’t see anything about Bobby Frankel on the Internet and didn’t have an alert. What about all her Jill’s celebrity and press “connections” like Perez Hilton? Do you think none of them called her for a comment or sent her an email when this news hit the Internet? Spare me.

    If Jill truly believes Alex did not tell her Bethenny’s father was seriously ill, it is just a testament to how Jill does not listen to anything. Alex made it very clear that this was the time, that this was it if Jill had ANY inkling to reach out. I don’t know how much clearer Alex could have made it. The bottom line was either Jill didn’t care, wasn’t listening, or both. But all of a sudden at Jennifer Gilbert’s apartment, she cared about it the same way she realized she would look bad at the Gotham party if she didn’t congratulate Bethenny. “If I don’t say anything, then I’ll look like s***,” she told Bobby. This was after a whole evening of obviously avoiding Bethenny. If you need proof, Jill, just ask them to roll the tape. It’s all right there.

    By the way, how many people think Jill is already writing her next book about her “redemption”? It’s the only way she could have squeezed more mileage out of RHONYC. She’ll go to therapy, become a supposedly changed woman and write another book. I would be surprised if she doesn’t have a first draft written yet.

  73. Brianna says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/06/16/dina-manzo-says-filthy-danielle-staub-leave-real-housewives-new-jersey/And when we asked for her thoughts on Staub’s scandalous sex tape, Dina had just one descriptive word to describe her former co-star.

    “Don’t really want to associate my charity with that filth,” Dina said.


    • Adgirl says:

      Good for her.
      I’m sure Danielle will volunteer to pole dance for Lady Bugs and will be shocked and hurt by Dina’s refusal.

  74. Jenni says:

    Mute before you go here:

    • dee says:

      One of the Luann’s caricatures actually looked like Hiliary Swank.

    • TLM says:

      I actually think the 2nd drawing of Kelly looks just like Lauri Waring Peterson. I would think Bethenny is the easiest to caricature, yet I thought only the last drawing looked like her. The Ramona drawings were hilarious.

  75. boston02127 says:

    I don’t think Kelly has a problem with dipression. She can be acting sad or whatever for attention but throw a couple of men near her and she perks right up.

  76. boston02127 says:

    Sorry I meant depression not dipression. I was thinking about Kelly and the word dip shit must of been on my mind.

  77. boston02127 says:

    @Duchess of Dryer Lint~I read your post on the last page. Your family’s in my prayers.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Thanks Boston, God has me. I never worry about things for too long because I know in the end it is all in his hands anyway! Just get up everyday and put your right foot on the floor—trust me, he’ll get the left one moving and then you just GO girl!

      • Kat says:

        I too wish you and your father in law the best.
        My thoughts are especially with you and Misty.
        You have a lot on your plate.
        RainbowBridge is a good website if you haven’t heard of it.
        It is for us humans who survive our pets.

        Thank you.

  78. Squirrels says:

    I missed this first time around. Re: B peeing on a stick. Kelly claims if B is going to be real she should have had the door open.

    Whoaaaaaa Silverrrrrr. This from little miss midwest? If B had the door open, guess who would have been the first to demean her?

    Come on, I’ll give ya three guesses. If you care to, explain your choices.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly wanted Bethenny really peeing on the stick, not sitting modestly on the toilet staring at the stick.

  79. Smompy says:

    error404 wrote:

    Huh? I can’t believe how many people are posting to Alex’s Bravo bold that Kiki WAS bullied by the other women on the trip! How is it even possible to watch the show and come to that conclusion? I’m stumped!”

    I don’t get it either, but there are even some people on THIS blog who have claimed that Kelly was bullied (by Bethenny and others) and/or ganged up on during that trip. It’s baffling to me how anyone could say that, but I’ve seen it with my own eyes so I know some people must feel that way.

    Actually I’ve been thinking about this a lot today, particularly as it might apply to Bethenny. During the first two seasons of this show I followed the RHoNYC TWoP forum closely, and the general consensus there has always been that Bethenny can be entertaining but she’s also cold-hearted, hypocritical and cruel. And I kinda loosely adopted that view of her myself. I liked to watch her but generally viewed her negatively anyway. It just worked its way into my subconscious or whatever. It wasn’t till this year when I got fed up with Jill’s nonsense that I started to reassess the way I was judging Bethenny. When I actually considered the facts surrounding things she had done or said in the past, I realized that Bethenny wasn’t nearly as bad as I’d thought she was.

    But I know a lot of people, even people who say they like Bethenny, still say she is mean, cold, selfish, cut-throat, hypocritical, dishonest, etc. I can only think of a few situations where Bethenny was really out of line enough for me to get mad at her. Probably the biggest one was her using Simon for that tennis thing and also calling him revolting. She was, at the very least, being thoughtless there. The thing with Alex and her logo wasn’t handled well by Bethenny either, although I don’t think she was being deliberately mean about it. Plus Alex herself said she never expected that her logo would automatically be used and that’s the way these things go, and so on. At first I though her calling LuAnn a snake was kinda mean as well, but in retrospect I think LuAnn got off easy. Plus LuAnn insulted Bethenny IMMEDIATELY after she made the snake comment anyway, so I guess I feel like they’re even:)

    But just as I tend to think that some people are being too harsh on Bethenny, it’s possible that I’m being too easy on her. So, out of curiosity, could you folks who do see Bethenny as mean or cruel or badly-behaved please cite some concrete examples of her being deliberately mean or malicious? I don’t mean instances like her making some snarky comment during a talking head or a joke that fell flat and slightly embarrassed someone, but a situation where she was really blatantly mean to someone or did something bad to another person without any provocation. I am sincerely interested to know what people are basing this sort of “she’s still a mean girl” characterization of Bethenny on. ‘Cause I myself can’t think of very many specific instances of her behavior being THAT bad.

    • Jenni says:

      I really can’t think of anything. I guess some folks might have taken the youtube videos she did, imitating the other housewives and Simon, as mean spirited. Personally, I just think they were meant to be funny.

    • moriasheehan says:

      i think she is a funny quick witted with an absolute straight faced delivery of her jokes and a lot of people think she is saying these things to wound. she needs to develop that jack beeny, bob hope grin to let the slow ones in on the fact
      ” it’s a JOKE, kid” (foghorn leghorn 1946)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      JILL is going after Alex anyway she can. These posts are just one of the many ways she will use – even after she is caught, has apologized and changed.

  80. Squirrels says:

    …. and how did JIll get pink eye?

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  82. boston02127 says:

  83. moriasheehan says:

    crazy sells, it really sells. did guiiana rancic look like she believed her?

    • Small Town Mama says:

      Hosting a party with Danielle isn’t the best way to redeem herself. Seriously, who told her this would be a good idea? Or is she so desperate for publicity she’d stoop to associating with Danielle? Nevermind, don’t answer that! Even Ramona has enough sense to stay away from Danielle at events!

    • Olivia says:

      Talk about “toxicity”!

    • Ches says:

      Next thing she’ll be pregnant with Charles Manson’s love child.

  84. Jennifer says:

    Jill has some balls telling Hollywood life she sti wants to be B’s friend now even after bashing B on Twitter and in mags now. Lynn’s Twitter has link. I too lazy to pull it up.
    I need a media break from Jill and Kelly

  85. WindyCityWondering says:

    Was anyone else horrified when Kelly said she would show RHONY to her girls as an educational lesson on systematic bullying? Do you think they will see bullying or their mommy acting normal???

    • GreatExpectations says:

      I was horrified. Those poor girls! From what little we’ve seen of them on the show they do not seem to share their mother’s delusions. They deal with her carefully, but they do love her. It’s really heartbreaking.

    • Jenni says:

      Well, she has Danelle now, so NBD

    • KookADoodleDo says:

      Bethenny “sent Allison [Jill’s daughter] a birthday gift to the house — this beautiful, big birthday gift on Nov. 1, right before the trip to the Bahamas,” Jill explains. “I forgot about that — that was like a signal that I got from her [that I thought meant she was starting to forgive me].”

      WTH does a gift sent to ALLY have to do with Jill?? It’s always all about Jill in her eyes!
      And, if Bethenny didn’t send a gift to Ally, Jill would just add that to her bitchlist.

      • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

        I have no words for Jill at this point. I have never heard such foolishness in my entire life. She doesn’t make any sense. Bethenny sent a birthday gift to Ally but Jill thinks that means that Bethenny wants to be friends again. Jill needs to stop this “media blitz” because she is starting to sound irrational and she is not helping herself at all.

        • TLM says:

          It’s because Jill thinks other people communicate like she does, passive-aggressively. Jill would likely send a gift to someone close to a person she argued with to reach out to them without actually reaching out to to them or taking a risk. I actually think that IS a very “Jewish mother” thing, and one that I can’t stand (I’m Jewish and unfortunately familiar with this crap). I think it was Paul Reiser’s old show where his mother sent them a cake, Helen Hunt thought it was a nice gesture and Paul said, “Oh no…this is a MESSAGE cake.” It’s when you send something nice to express your displeasure.

    • Olivia says:

      And the sad thing is that there are enough stupid people out there buying into her martydom.

      Her aim now is to put out there the meme that she reached across the aisle to Bethenny, offered her a million apologies, wished her the best, even suggested the she could come to CA when her father was dying, and look, she still spurns my “friendship”!

      Then the morons who can’t see through this triple dose of hypocrisy can go back to hating on Bethenny since “poor Jill” did her best to make amends. Truly nauseating.

  86. Olivia says:

    Someone upthread mentioned other impressions of Bethenny that were apparent in the past.

    I see her as the typical wisecracker, a person who has managed to get through life by having a fairly tart tongue that masks other insecurities. Some of her earlier comments in all fairness were not very nice. Especially those aimed at Simon and Alex. The ones she threw at Ramona were on fair grounds since Ramona, by dint of her own stupid statements, has asked for them. Alex, unless I have missed something, never went out of her way to discharge the same level of meanness she suffered at the hands of Jill, Bethenny and Ramona. She kept her own council and reaped the rewards.

    Bethenny, if we are to believe what she has revealed of her life, grew up unwanted, probably unsupervised, and more than likely learned how to shift for herself. The girl is nothing if not very intelligent, but I always see her as the kid with her nose pressed up against the window wishing for the things missing in her life. She probably developed a way of coping by getting her “snark” in early before others could level it against her thus holding the upper hand.

    Admittedly some of her stuff has been kind of “cringe worthy” but I think she has a level of emotional stability which makes her recognize that she has the capacity to wound. It is part of her vulnerability.

    Jill is unable to self evaluate and makes everything about herself. She has been cossetted, excused, pampered, and never held accountable for her words or actions and therefore is unable to process just what the rest of us have discovered for ourselves. She is shallow and just plain mean and takes pleasure in hurting other people as it gives her a sense of power.

    Bethenny is often her own worst critic. Jill is her own best.

    • Katiecoo says:


    • JazzNightOut says:

      I think of Bethenny as a deeper, less curmudgeonly version of that cartoon cat Garfield. She says what we all see and only wish we had the wherewithall to say. She adds depth to the glitz, glamour and surperficiality of RHONYC, altho I watch for the glitz, glamour and superficiality as well. But she adds humanity to the mix. She is vulnerable and very, very intelligent. I think that some see only the surface; she doesn’t. But protects herself with humor.

      I think some viewers only hear the snark and not the depth. People have differing senses of humor; hers is sophisticated. Not everyone lives life on such an honest, vulnerable level.

      Some see Jill as a heronine because she appears to do the ‘nice’ thing. And I think a lot of people want B and Jill to reconcile, and Jill’s pseudo apologies feed that hope. Hence all the positive posts on her blog for BravoTV.

      I learned a long time ago in my own life that living deep takes courage, the type I see in Bethenny despite her humorous snark. And I have found that the harder it is to be vulnerable and honest in life as it unfolds with its sorrows and joys, the less amount of people come along with you. Your friends end up being people who can face life on its own terms as well. And that is less of a majority, unfortunately, than those who see only the surface.

      That is why I am glad I found this blog; most here have experience life as it is; see the humor and the integrity it takes to keep going despite life’s pitfalls. I see Bethenny doing this in her own way, and I admire her ability to keep going. I think Jill did love her, but not more than Jill loves Jill. Bethenny chooses real life; Jill chooses fame.

      • Kat says:

        Beautiful post. Unique expression, exceptional voice.
        Wondering about the other you, the former moniker.

      • AndHowisWatchingSportsNotaWasteofTime? says:

        Does anyone remember how Bethenny described Kelly when she was first introduced to the viewers? She said, “Kelly is part of what I call the ‘fabulocity’ crowd.” She could have just said…”I think she’s a big phony.” But she chose a much more harmless description.

        I also thought the little snark “evidently Madonna” and “place of yes” thing at the first charity meeting was pretty tame. It didn’t even look like Bethenny was trying to score any points or take over that scene. Kelly was the one who thought it necessary to put Bethenny in her place with a time out at the Brass Monkey. Kelly was much more the aggressor, but Bethenny was probably the first one her little mean girl power play didn’t work on….Kelly didn’t start pulling the victim thing until it was clear that the public stopped buying her act.

        One of the biggest complaints about Kelly the first season was her lateness and that was clearly a big thing with Bethenny. I’m sure that was a major reason that she didn’t want to film with her. By the time the Halloween party rolled around, everyone else had had enough of her lateness and lack of consideration too.

  87. lillybee says:

    Jill needs to shut up and go on a long religious retreat to self examine her actions this season.

  88. MickeyMouth says:

    @MAMAZ and anyone else who is interested 😉

    As requested: Endora and Samantha

    And because the other one could be mistaken for Jill and Alex in their pajamas, I did this one of Alex: Bewitched

    Here is a link to some of my other chops: http://mickeymouth1.wordpress.com/ if anyone is interested.

  89. Adgirl says:

    Kelly is suffering from dumbpression.

  90. iceNfire says:

    When Bethenny was speaking to Jill about trying to sabatoge her new show, B says (paraphrasing) You went after my livelihood, and I didn’t have a Bobby.
    I think it’s telling that B used the word “Bobby” and not “husband” Jill wasn’t offended, didn’t even blink. Makes me think that all the HWs just see Bobby as a wallet and not really Jill’s husband. Why didn’t Jill catch that? hmmm

    • Jenni says:

      I captured a good bit of video (enough for 3 parts of my silly little project) of Jill interacting with Bobby. She does not treat him well. I saw no evidence of a loving relationship from her, though he does seem to be trying to make it work. I really do feel sympathy for him. He deserves better.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      she was busy preparing her answer! if you watch her when a question is coming her way – she supresses her smile, she nods her head and then we get a quote from the boooooook, an excuse for her behavior (bad days), an apology – she was rotating responses!

      And Bawby is her wallet – and she is proud of it!

  91. Shannon says:


    Here is a recent email that I received concerning Big Brother. I thought I would share in case you haven’t heard the start date. I’m so hoping that you have time to do a blog about it. You create a great place for people to come and speak their minds, and I appreciate it.

    CBS has announced the Big Brother 12 premiere is set for Thursday, July 8th at 8PM. From there the show schedule will be Sundays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays all at 8PM ET. This is a change from the usual Su/Tu/Th line-up which shifted between 8PM and 9PM.

    You night-owls will be pleased to learn that Big Brother After Dark is set to return to Showtime’s SHO2. Apparently BB is quadrupling SHO2’s ratings during those 12AM – 3AM hours making this decision a no-brainer. Too bad that’s way too late for this East-Coaster. Good thing we’ll always have the 24/7 Live Feeds!

  92. boston02127 says:

    Has anyone figured out who the man is in the background in Danielle’s skanky pictures?

  93. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s Tweets:

    @bNicebReal watch the reunion show 3. they finally let me speak. thank god.

    @JoshFittell andy’s cohen’s a cutiebear. he loves that the show does so well, its his baby.

    @tictactam watch renuion3, you’ll see. their jealousy is so apparent. it makes me sad.

    @SmileyYYC i respect and admire jill and luann

    @monilooboo i appreciate that. the show got tons of press. celebrate that!!!!

  94. boston02127 says:

    Trash-lee, I mean Ashley has a job! Wonder why they didn’t put her to work at the Brown Stone. Caroline probably knows better not to hire her.

  95. error 404 says:

    When it comes to Bethenny, I must admit I’m very much like Kiki. I apparently live in my own version of reality. People continuously say these negative things about B that I just can’t find any proof to support.

    I loved her on Apprentice and was crushed when she didn’t win. She is THE only reason why I tuned into RHoNY. Yet I recently read that she was the understood “mean girl” of Apprentice. Huh? I guess they filmed two versions of the show: one where she’s smart and funny and likable, and an alternate version that must have been broadcast in another part of the country, where she was a bitch everyone hated. Maybe someday they’ll put the mean B version of the show up on youtube so I can see it.

    Bravo has continuously claimed that B says what the audience feels, like she is the only housewife who can see what we’re seeing. I’d have to agree with Bravo on this one. I’ve yet to hear her say one snarky think that wasn’t almost exactly what I was thinking at that moment.

    I guess most of the audience thinks Jill’s apt is tasteful and B is just a bitch for implying it’s tacky. Maybe she’s jealous? At any rate, if that’s real life, I’m glad I live inside my own mind.

    • iceNfire says:

      Were you reading my mind?

    • Scorpiosue says:

      Hear, hear.

    • Katiecoo says:

      It’s like Simon Cowell…snarky, sometimes people say “mean” but still lovable w/ a heart of gold and saying exactly what everyone else is thinking! Put Bethenny on American Idol I say! 😉

    • TLM says:

      I only recently was looking for clips from MS Apprentice on YouTube so I could see what B was like then; I never watched the show because I was Martha-ed out at the time. As everyone recalls, the show was designed to be her comeback after her stint in jail, and I just was sick of seeing and hearing about her. I never liked her or her daughter very much. But now I’m sorry because I never got to see B and how she progressed on there.

      From the clips I’ve found, B is shockingly quiet. It was actually hard for me to find clips where she is speaking, much less being a mean girl. Error, was it your impression she had a strategy to lay low? She did not seem at all like the quippy person we know and love now.

      The other thing I’ve read is that she was supposed to win, but a little kid who overheard that spilled the beans before the finale, and NBC was forced to change the outcome? Is this for real? It sounds like urban legend. I also was reading about people thinking B had an unfair advantage in that one of the judges was the father of a good friend of hers. MS Apprentice fans, please fill me in!!!! Thanks!!! 🙂

      • error 404 says:

        Apprentice was years ago, but the way I remember it, she was lost in the crowd a bit in the beginning, but as the numbers narrowed down, she emerged more.

        Re; Martha – this show really is a gift from baby Jesus to make us laugh. So pretentious and unself-aware! It’s like that joke video Lulu did for Class with the Countess, but Martha was serious. LOL

        EX: the winner of each challenge got to go to one of Martha’s houses and have a meal with her or her daughter. Seriously! The only exception was when one team won a charity event, they were told giving was it’s own gift, and got nothing. Yes, it’s true! lol

        I heard a similar “urban legend” about how B was suppose to win, but it got switched after it was leaked. Who knows. But I think B is right. In her “Obsessed” interview, she says she got a lot more out of being the runner up.

        • Kat says:

          I did not see The Apprentice that Bethenny was in.
          I’ve always liked her.
          A link posted on this blog by delurking aka waslurking, went to a 30 min interview of Bethenny in 09.
          It reinforced my feelings for her and reshaped my perception of RHONY.
          She is an old soul in my mind.
          But that reunion dress …questionable.

  96. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    By George, I think I got It!

    Could it be that Jill shown to be a jealous, hateful and manipulative bitch, decided to befriend Bethenny in order to salvage not only SECRETIONS, but HER NEW LINE OF BEDDING for some company. I read somewhere that Zarin Fabrics or Jill has a home line coming out. That is why she is now talking branding also. it’s the bedding line. Seeing how disastrous the sales were for her family’s book, she’s probably scared shitless that her line will debut and immediately be sold at ODDLOT/JOBLOT/BIGLOTS/BEALLS ETC. You get the idea.

    • iceNfire says:

      I wonder if Amazon will carry it? Or will it only sold in stores with no
      review/comment page?

      • Amber...Real Housewife says:

        I wonder if men will want to buy a known cocksuckers brand hoping to encourage the wife to “be nice”.

        • Kat says:

          She uses a face mask and coined it a “headsock” to capture secretions. Included in the sheet set.
          Coming soon to store near you.

      • Ches says:

        Is her new line of bedding called “Secretions” ? Does it come with a black light?

        • Amber...Real Housewife says:


          the review on Amazon;

          Jill Zarin Collection
          As soon as I laid on the sheets, mysteriously, my head started bobbing up and down. It moved quicker yet, when I looked over at my husband’s wallet. My husband, never one to ignore a great deal, took advantage and now I’m in a neck brace. Needless to say, I burned the sheets. DO NOT BUY!

        • iceNfire says:

          So she will be targeting the porno industry market. Who else would touch this stuff?

    • error 404 says:

      DUH! I was wondering why she kept tweeting that she was watching the show IN BED with guests.

      Considering all of the time she spends in bed with the other housewives, it’s surprising it took her this long to launch the line.

      Maybe she wants to reconcile with B because she needs pics/videos of her and B in bed together to sell the sheets?

      • Amber...Real Housewife says:

        B I N G O

        Always in bed you are absolutely correct. The bed family, we always end up in bed etc. WOW, what a conniving bitch!

      • Katiecoo says:

        It’s like she “holds Court” in bed (no not that Carson Kressley wannabe–a real Court as in her being The Queen). Blech.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I didn’t understand why Jill was marketing bedding, except for the use of fabric (Zarin’s of course). But I forgot the “bed.” The family who lives in their bed. How could I have missed that, lol.

        • Kat says:

          Jill . Ginger’s tongue in her nose.
          Little Ginger. Droppings.
          Lost that loving feeling.

          Free association might not boost bedding sales.

    • Squirrels says:

      The mere thought of sleeping in Jill’s sheets gives me the willies.

  97. Ches says:

    With the exception of Jill and Kelly, I noticed this year all of the women look better and younger. Alex and Ramona both look like they de-aged at least 5 years. I even thought getting away from the Count did wonders for Luann. Bethanny, except towards the end of her pregnancy when she was totally bloated, also looked more attractive. Kelly hasn’t changed much from last year, maybe a little harder, but Jill looks like she has aged at least 10 years. Thought maybe it was her makeup but now I don’t think so. Weird.

  98. TLM says:

    Lynn– Since you have somewhat of an inside track on these things…do you think the supposed BGM drama about booking The Four Seasons for the wedding was all trumped up? When I saw Ramona take Jill and Sonja to the very same room where the wedding was held for lunch to ask them to go to St. John, I figured Bravo had a deal with the Four Seasons, the same way we’ve seen so many people go shopping at Intermix on the Housewives franchises. B also said in some interview that there are only certain restaurants who will allow filming, and to an extent that limits where they can go. So do you think (as I do) that the choices were far narrower than one might be led to believe on BGM? Like it was either Tavern on the Green or The 4 Seasons?

    The other thing is, I cannot believe the biography of B’s wedding planner, Shawn Rabideau. http://www.eventergonomics.com/bio.html The guy seems like such a dim bulb that I swore he was a prop hired by Bravo. It’s hard to believe he ever planned a bar mitzvah reception, let alone a celebrity wedding. Plus, he lied to her about being familiar with the cotton candy they serve at the 4 Seasons, which says 1) that he’ll lie even about small things, and 2) How can he be unfamiliar with a famous dessert at the 4 Seasons in NYC? Hasn’t he ever been there?

    I have seen the photos of B’s wedding and the setup for the ceremony could not have been more basic; I personally thought it was a very cold setting, like holding a wedding in a room that looked like it was more suited to a corporate conference. So I am anxious to see what the reception looked like.

  99. Need a Hobby says:

    Tweet from Ginger to Bethenny: “Any tips for someone who has no choice but 2 live off of matzoh ball soup lamb chops & McDonalds? I have a muffin bottom thanks”

  100. mariareads says:

    I have a virus and have felt krappy since last night. Nothing to do today but take aspirin and chill so I watched the reunion shows that I had on the DVR. Wow.
    Kelly. What the hell was she wearing? It looked like a white cheese cloth rag. This woman is supposed to be some fashionista? Honestly, I have never really seen her dressed well. Her too short dresses look ridiculous. Really stupid. She is too freaking tall to wear clothes like that. Showing off her legs, probably, but she looks bat shit crazy in those dresses the length of shirts. If you watch closely you will see her leg kick up now and then while sitting next to Jill. It’s whenever she leans over and whispers something snarky to Jill or jumps in and tries to validate something Jill is saying. Watch the leg. Always with a single shake. Sorry people, but this woman is a shit storm. I am glad her husband lives in the same building so he can keep an eye on his own kids, or at least have someone to watch over them like a housekeeper. She hates Bethenny so much that she is willing to say anything or do anything at all, even though it makes her look bad, to discredit her. I think she is extremely jealous. B got the book deals, the Skinny Girl line, the show, the husband, the baby. And Kelly got kellade. More like Kell Adled. She’s nuts.

    Jill was a horror show to look at. What WAS with the bracelets? How many were there? 9? 10? 25? And the freaking shoes were too much. They were “look at me, look at me”. If this bitch wasn’t funded by Bobby she would be sitting in some corner talking to her handbag. The faces, the smirks, the chin up, the skinny line that is supposed to be her lips all showed that she was defiant, uncomfortable and pathetic. Her fawning over Bethenny was embarrassing. Look, B is no angel nor is Ramona but they have SOME redeeming qualities. B is funny. Ramona is funny too in her own Ramonesque way. While I think Ramona can be very rude I just don’t feel that she has that deep simmering hatred that I feel coming from Jill. No way.
    As for Jill’s treatment of Alex she is telling her “you don’t matter, you are nobody and I am so freaking jealous of your book success that I will hate you until I die”. And so there too.

    Why was Luann on this show this season? I remember Corte (whatever) and the idiotic song (please Bravo enough with the housewives singing-it’s embarrassing to watch). Ramona is right. The one shoulder look every single show was nauseatingly over done.

    I’m looking forward to tomorrow night. I want to see Ramona go off on Jill and put her in her place. Kelly says she finally gets to speak. Does that mean we will be treated to more truncated sentences filled with “like” “thank you”
    “Alex McCord” “Ramona Singer” “systematic bullying” “Breakthrough not a breakdown” “I invented kellade” “I was forced to go to Scary Island”? Right.
    In your dreams, on Mars where chickens have lips, Kelly. ARGHHHH! She is the most annoying creature!

    As for RHONJ I can’t watch. I just can’t. It’s awful. Just awful. The people are not likable, there is no thread other than Danielle and she is such a skank that I cannot watch. I raised twin sons and had a house filled with boys all the time and I can tolerate just about anything but this woman (someone please tell her that WOMAN in the plural is WOMEN-WOMEN Danielle!) is so vile and repugnant that I can’t even look at her. Speaking of look(s) what on earth has happened to her? Did she lose 15 pounds? Her face is skeletal.
    And the pink eye shadow is …OY. Dina left for a number of reasons, I’m sure, but the main reason should be “what am I doing on this nothing show with people who are so revolting?”. Teresa and her $$ problems, Caroline and her ham throwing children (how fitting they all went to look at pigs this week), Jacqueline and her wackadoo, wanna be a gangster husband and that daughter who seriously needs a slap across the mouth. I can’t do it. Cannot watch another minute of it. I just don’t understand how it gets any ratings. And moving WWHL to Mondays at 11 is supposed to be a draw? To talk about what? Pole dancing, creepy little thugs who are playing Tony Soprano wanna be’s, chuckies & more? I’ll stick needles in my eyes instead, thank you.

    Wow. Being sick sure does make me cranky!

    • Jenni says:

      Hope you are feeling bettter soon, glad you had enough energy to write!

    • boston02127 says:

      @mariareads: Don’t forget hairless cats!
      Hope you’re feeling better soon. 🙂

      • mariareads says:

        Thanks, ladies! I’m still awake. Full day tomorrow and here I sit. I swore I would not check in here again tonight but this place is addictive.

        Ohhhh the hairless cat! I forgot. But when that cat was swaddled in a towel or blanket on Cohen’s lap & then hid it’s head I kind of fell in love with it. Crazy, I know, but we have 2 little dogs and I am such a sap for a little animal that needs us. But the hairless part gives me the chills. Really. ~Maybe I should mix some kellade and see if it will knock me out. OR will it make me talk in riddles and drop phrases like “satchels of gold”. Was she referring to the bags B gave all of them or was that some kind of ho bag comment? Why didn’t anyone ask her what that was on the reunion?

        • lillybee says:

          Those hairless cats are very good for people who have animal allegeries. And they are just about as ugly as the Chinese Crested dogs.

    • Kat says:

      Feel better soon!
      Take care.
      Visit here often. 😉

    • iceNfire says:

      Never mind it couldn’t be that Jill. This stuff is already on sale and there’s no reviews. lol

      • iceNfire says:

        wow this stuff sucks:
        * You Save:up to $554.00
        * Sale Price:$88.00 – $642.00 (Varies with options)
        * Shipping:Free

      • TLM says:

        Those don’t have anything to do with Jill Z. “Jill” is just the style name Missoni Home gave to that sheet set. The manufacturer is Missoni Home, from the Missoni design house.

        I read that Jill’s sheets are going to be Zarin Fabrics for Bed Bath & Beyond. Don’t know if that’s confirmed, but that’s what I read somewhere.

        • iceNfire says:

          Oh No I like BB&B, how could they!

          • mariareads says:

            Me too! It’s my favorite store to roam around in and buy things I don’t really need but can’t live without!

            Whatsa matter? Saks won’t sell her damn sheets? Or Nordstroms? Or Bloomingdales?

        • lillybee says:

          I thought that Lynn Curtin was also going to be doing bedding for BB&B. Sad isn’t it.

  101. cusi77 says:

    Hello Lynn! Good evening, sunshines!

    Did somebody see WORK OF ART?

    • boston02127 says:

      Hi cusi~~:)

    • TLM says:

      I saw parts of it, maybe about 5 minutes’ worth. It aggravated me when I had a better concept for one of the pieces than the artist did. LOL. I didn’t stay tuned to see what happened. The concept for this show doesn’t grab me. I am amazed that SJP is one of the producers.

    • moriasheehan says:

      i watched it, i like the show and have been very impressed with some of the pieces. i especially liked the one last week of the guy smoking and this week, the concept of the archaeological dig with the tv on it’s side. i hope we get to see some actual sculpting and more painting. maybe some live sketching with different mediums.

  102. TLM says:

    I always think if I were taller and thinner, oh, the things I would wear. But I agree with you, mariareads… Kelly has no concept of how to dress. Hiding her figure flaws would be so easy, and instead it seems she goes out of her way to draw attention to her bad breasts, lumpy torso and wide shoulders. You figure women who have worked as models for years have a good sense of what works on them and what doesn’t, but that ability doesn’t seem to be there with KKB. Just so people don’t think I’m picking on Kelly only, Heidi Klum also has the most hideous taste in clothes I’ve ever seen. She’s one of the most perfect looking women in the world, and yet every photo I see her in, it’s like she’s in some secret competition to wear the most hideous dress she can find. It was like that when she was hosting Project Runway as well. The nicest things I saw her wear, believe it or not, was when she was pregnant. Maybe you wear so many different clothes as a model that they all start to look the same to you?!?!? I don’t get it.

    • mariareads says:

      I don’t get it either. Maybe we are too smart for “high fashion”. Which is it? Does the fashion industry dictate to the magazines or the magazines to the fashion industry? I once read about it but can’t recall which one sets the trend. It was something to do with how one dictates to the designers what the trends will be and the designers run and get it done. Does anyone know? ~As for Kelly, I don’t thing we are picking on her. It’s very true that her clothing has been abysmal. While none of them always hit it out of the park, her clothes particularly look cheap and unattractive. (One outfit probably costs more than my entire summer season of clothes).

  103. RileyKitty says:

    Hello everyone!!! Ok I am on a quest to lose 40 lbs by Christmas. I am getting Bethenny’s workout DVD & am going to try out some recipes from her books. I was just wondering if anyone wanted to do this with me?

    • iceNfire says:

      lol I’ve been *thinking* about it for weeks and I will continue to think about it.
      Glad your feeling better : )

      • RileyKitty says:

        LMAO. You keep thinking & if you decide to jump in, you can 🙂

        thanks, I am glad to be feeling better too. I was still queasy this morning but everything stayed down so I am doing much better. My son was so concerned for me he offered to stay home from his baseball game yesterday. I think it was me laying on the bathroom floor LOL.

        • Adgirl says:

          Good luck to you Riley! I lost a bunch of weight on weight watchers (online). It was fairly easy once I figured out what I enjoyed eating and made sure to exercise. Don’t get discouraged ever!!
          I haven’t gained it back – in fact I have been doing so much heavy yard work that I am pretty buff.

    • Amber...Real Housewife says:

      I have her books also and the CD. I would also like to lose weight before my birthday in September, and be in better shape yet for Christmas. I should join.

      • Amber...Real Housewife says:

        Riley gotta go, husband coming home from a double…will talk with you! I’m IN!

  104. cusi77 says:

    Hello Riley! Go for those 40 pounds!

    Have you read a book calle “a week in the zone” Dr. Sears… it is great! My brother in-law lost 215 Lb. just doing the zone diet…

    • RileyKitty says:

      that is fantastic!! I lost 50 lbs about 8 years ago on Atkins, then gained 20 back when I started eating carbs again UGH! I took that 20 off again just working out. I joined Weight Watchers & lost 40 lbs & kept that off but still have 40 to go to what I think is a good goal weight (WW wants me at 95-115) 125. (I am very short 4’10)

      • RileyKitty says:

        I forgot to add that I gained the 20 I lost again before I joined WW. Total loss is 70 lbs

      • wvurn says:

        Riley, If you’re looking for a great workout you should think about a spin class. They are very intense but every one I have ever gone to has had a “go at your own pace” policy. I enjoy it because it’s upbeat, fun and easy on my knees.

        Good luck on the weight loss….I need to lose a few myself.

  105. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s on E news now. She’s whining about bullying. In regards to going back to the show she just said her 12 yr old daughter told her “mommy you have to go back, nobody talks to Kelly Bensimone like that. Those kids are going to grow up so twisted. Just like her.

    UGH I can’t stand her.

    • Squirrels says:

      HOLD THE PHONE. her kids were there?

      No f’ing way.

    • mariareads says:

      You know what? I don’t believe her when she says her daughter said that. I know it looks like it’s my night to pick on Kelly but that sounds like a dig that she is ohhh so grand a lady and “up here” while the rest of us are “down there”.

      I say FEH on the 12 year old daughter said it. Kelly thought it and then she said it LOL!

    • Kat says:

      Is it Nature or Nurture? I think both.
      Poor kids.

  106. cusi77 says:

    I had high cholesterol and just eating well, but in “The zone”, my cholesterol levels are normal…

    • RileyKitty says:

      I will check that out, I am a diet book junkie LOL I am one who thinks every plan works if you foloow it. I am just ready to mix things up a bit. WW is getting tedious.

      • iceNfire says:

        Riley what about swimming? I was never over weight until I had to stop swimming.

        • RileyKitty says:

          It is part of my plan. Since I have ready access to a pool all summer long 🙂 One summer I walked the shallow end 30 minutes a day (too hot to walk outside) by the summers end my legs were amazing. They still look good, I carry all my weight in the middle.

          • Squirrels says:

            I’m in. Your enthusiasm convinced me. I want to get back to a size 4. I’m not vain. I’m short, too and it’s the size i’m comfortable at.

          • lillybee says:

            I am another who carries my weight in my middle. My boobs just don’t get bigger even when I am overweight.

            • moriasheehan says:

              me too! i think us “apple” girls have a much harder time losing. my daughter just looks more like anna nicole, bigger hips and boobs.

  107. Olivia says:

    Kelly and her costumes need a real makeover. Her shoulders remind me of Y.A. Tittle and she should never – repeat never- wear strapless gowns! And Bethenny too needs to reconsider the strapless look as well. Watching her hitch up the dress and tuck the “twins” in every five seconds would seem to be sending a message that perhaps she should stop with the strapless.

    I have to say that IMHO Lu Ann is perhaps the most attractive. Her face does not need much make up and I like the hairstyle since it flatters her features. She wears her clothing well as befits a woman of her stature. She is a lovely to look at, miserable to listen to, and a first class two faced Witch. But I will award points for her beauty.

    Ramona looks very good for her age but she too needs to get away from buying clothes more appropriate for women in their 20’s. Women of a certain age need to get away from baring the cleavage and showing the “how haw” for all the world to see. I am in Avery’s corner here.

    Sonja has been filmed wearing hats and suits. Love it! She knows how to draw attention and still remain classy. So far I am liking her a lot and just hope they don’t try to turn her into a character from Sex and the City.

    Alex could use a little something along the breast line. Flat as a pancake and often those expensive dresses don’t do much for her shape. But she is looking better this year.

    I just wish these women would throw out the extensions and have their hair styled and trimmed to a more flattering look. Judging from their ages they are beyond that 20 something look and take a page from Lu Ann’s hair style. Aside from the ever present one strap dress I have yet to see her shoving her bubbies into place or hiking her dress down to cover breakfast.

    • cusi77 says:

      Great blog, Olivia! spot right! Ha! I agree.

    • mariareads says:

      So agree about the breast tucking thing. Those outfits they wore the night of the big announcement of B’s engagement were quite a sight.
      B trying to keep those puppies covered up, Kelly showing her ass, Alex showing her VJ (quoting B here)-not good.

      As for Luann, you are right. She does have a certain look about her that suits her and she looks more pulled together than the others. I also thought B did a little better this year. Loved the jeans, boots and suede jacket she wore during the “ambush” at Ramona’s. Also the red dress that is in the opening. It was a good look for her. Ramona? Not so wild about her clothes. Jill-enough said. Alex never seems to be dressed for her age. Sometimes she looks dowdy. Sonja was the best dressed I think, over all. But what do I know? I’m not a fashionista like Kellllllyyyy.

  108. Shadowsnomore says:

    Hi everyone! I spent my whole day watching last seasons’ Top Chef and the new episode that premiered tonight. I love me some Voltaggio brothers and TC in general. I would love it if Lynn would blog TC. I used to post at TWOP last season but they pissed me off because they kept hitting me with stupid infractions. I was almost banned. I hate that site. Does anyone know of a good TC blog to post at?

    Oh, I wasn’t sure if anyone has caught this but there is something fishy going on at Jills’ Facebook page. Remember she told everyone not to post on her facebook during the last reunion. She wanted everyone to leave comments on her personal blog site. Well, if you check her facebook now, a large section is now missing! It jumps from July 17,2009 to today! It is like she is trying to cut out the last year of her life! Kinda fishy if you ask me.

    • RileyKitty says:

      if you find a top chef blog to post at let me know. I am still hoping Lynn will blog it, so I can satisfy all my blogging needs in one location.

    • Kat says:

      @Shadowsnomore ~ Maybe Jill is rewriting history. If she erases facts, edits details, and fabricates the timeline then the result must be true.

      Can you imagine trying to live her? She must gaslight Bobby a lot.

    • lillybee says:

      You can try rhony, they have a tv show forum.

  109. cusi77 says:

    No. I do not have any idea about B’s books… sorry…

    And I use to walk one hour daily… practically all my adult life…

  110. I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

    Kelly seems to be under the impression that she is returning next season. This is what Kelly tweeted to someone:

    @KellyandEJ i am glad you love the show. next season will be more aspirational. dynasty with no $ and power is over.

    • RileyKitty says:

      if Bravo asks her back, I will not be watching. She is too much for me.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      The Dynasty comment leads me to believe that she feels Bethenny won’t come back.

    • error 404 says:

      actually, the tweet sounds like she’s not going to film, and is bashing the show and how it will devolve once she’s not there to “police” the other women and inspire the audience with her integrity, realness and charity.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        “the tweet sounds like she’s not going to film” ~ from your fingertips to God’s ear.

    • Squirrels says:


      • error 404 says:

        “In consumer marketing, an aspirational brand (or product) means a large segment of its exposure audience wishes to own it, but for economical reasons cannot.”

        • Squirrels says:

          ty 404. love to learn.

        • Squirrels says:

          “@KellyandEJ i am glad you love the show. next season will be more aspirational. dynasty with no $ and power is over.”

          so, a large segment of the show’s audience will want to watch, but for economical reasons cannot.

          Oh Kelly, I love you.

    • moriasheehan says:

      from wikipedia
      In consumer marketing, an aspirational brand (or product) means a large segment of its exposure audience wishes to own it, but for economical reasons cannot. An aspirational product implies certain positive characteristics to the user, but the supply appears limited due to limited production quantities.
      so we are going to want to own kelly??
      help, anyone?

  111. Has this been posted yet?


    I bet money Jill will say that she had to delete the entire year from her Facebook because of spam. Jill and her bullshit spin are getting old!

    • RileyKitty says:

      I stay off her facebook anyway just because I get nauseas reading her adoring fans. She is ridiculous, she can erase whatever she wants but we all know the truth here LOL

  112. cusi77 says:

    Kelly is like a parrot, I swear… they were talking about Bethenny’s dress that was from the time of “Dinasty”… I hope -for her own sake, not to be in the show next season. I also hope Bravo reconsider hiring her… they can face a very bad legal issue, since she is so unpredictable…

    • error 404 says:

      Kelley said in that Obsessed interview from last year that she wanted to give B a make over because she dressed too Joan Collins from Dynasty. This is where she also said her new jewelry line is “Pocahontas is out of the canoe and in a disco. It’s a recession and she just want to have fun.” She was wearing a feathered bracelet during the reunion.

  113. Katiecoo says:

    She accused the other ladies of being “dangerous” because they are “unpredictable” then on the E! video she claims SHE is the unpredictable one. Honestly as much as I abhor the likes of Zarin, I’d have to vote Kelly off the island first as she’s just completely unsettling to watch.

    • RileyKitty says:

      I agree, as much as I hate Jill & do not want her back, she is more of a danger to herself & reputation. Kelly is a danger to other people, because she is so unpredictable.

  114. RileyKitty says:

    I created a page on my blog for us who want to lose weight or just get healthier.
    I don’t want to overrun Lynn’s blog with this, anyone is welcome, except trolls 😉

  115. Hello! Anyone out here? I kinda feel like I’m being snubbed by the popular girls! I guess I’ll go find somewhere else to play.

  116. Search the Web on Snap.com says:

    Riley– I tried to put your site in my favorites and can not display it!

  117. cusi77 says:


  118. cusi77 says:

    Don’t go shadows… my server is very slow tonight…

  119. RileyKitty says:

    I think the blog is dragging, it is taking forever for me to refresh

  120. cusi77 says:

    Riley I found it! How to make comments? Nice pics! wow!

  121. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Shadows what are you looking for? You are loved and appreciated! Did I miss a question you asked? Just saw your link posting and am in total agreement with you! I, Like Riley said , am not a popular girl, but a girl who sends:) to you!

  122. JazzNightOut says:

    Night all. Site is dragging. Pleasant dreams.

  123. Sorry. It’s has been a very tough day for me. I’m a bit over sensitive and I’m sorry if I offended anyone. Probably better off not posting much tonight. Hopefully I will feel better tomorrow.

    • RileyKitty says:

      You offended no one, hon. If you want to talk about your day, I am wide awake.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Hey, Shadows, I think I can speak for MANY when I say, totally here for you .
      >>>Hands a cup to decaff to her bud>>> need to vent? or just need to hear that I personally find you to be witty, concise, true to yourself and funny. All my fav. qualities in a person! So chin up and am here if you need me.

    • lillybee says:

      You are definitely not offensive. We all love you.

    • Kat says:

      @shadowsnomore I’m not offended in the least. I appreciated your posts.

      Today I got a large portion of someone elses reality that was in my face.
      I feel stupid for missing this …. for so long. I just didn’t get it.

      I hope you feel better tomorrow.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I had an insane day too…filled with mishaps and screwups…like everything moving backward or something. Did I somehow land on the kelly train? conductor! Let me offf!

  124. cusi77 says:

    Ok Riley. I will try to follow you later this month. I am working very hard. Next week I am sending numerous pieces overseas and I have been working many hours a day.
    Soon I will be free again to hang with you.

    • RileyKitty says:

      jump in whenever you have the time… the more the merrier. Anyone who doesn’t need to lose weight but wants to be supportive of us is also welcome 🙂

  125. cusi77 says:

    How was your day shadows?

  126. RileyKitty says:

    I have already posted way too much that is off topic but I wanted to add one more thing before I resume my hatred of Jill Zarin (& Kelly).

    My son’s report card came in today (end of 10th grade) ALL A’s (I know I don’t need an ‘ there but it looked like As otherwise) PROUD MAMA. my baby is no Ashley!!

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Whoooo hoooooo! And, also off topic, and perhaps a huge over share moment, My dog, Misty, has officially had her first day of solid poo’s in a month! Which means we have the right level of medication FINALLY and the vet says look for major improvement as we have FINALLY turned the corner! (Sorry if anyone is offended by the poo statement, but after Ginger ……)

      • cusi77 says:

        Yes. After Ginger scene, everything is a walking in the park…

      • RileyKitty says:

        Awesome for Misty!! My pets are like kids around here, my son thinks we love the cats more than him sometimes 🙂

      • Squirrels says:

        glad to hear Duchess. One poo at a time.

      • Kat says:

        Awesome! That is great news.
        I am an animal lover too.

        I know the gut wrenching decisions we make and how hard it is to have an ill pet. I hope Misty has a full recovery.

        I mentioned RainbowBridge in an earlier post, PLEASE
        overlook that part of my post. (If I only could edit as well as Jill)

    • shantygal says:

      Riley, I’m in. I just commented on your page. And way to go son of Riley!

  127. cusi77 says:

    @Riley__ Congratulatios for your baby, you should be proud!

    I left a comment in your blog. Great idea! I will follow you!

  128. I’m a little hesitant to bring it up because unlike Jill, I don’t want to sound like I’m playing the “Cancer” card for sympathy. I am having a hysterectomy at the beginning of July. Lots of complications. Doctor told me today that he suspects uterine cancer. I have to go for a biopsy on the 30th. The outcome of it will determine how my doctor can approach my surgery and follow up care.

    I have a 5 year old son and the thought of cancer terrifies me. I’m trying to stay positive until I know for sure but it is hard. I don’t want to scare him or my older kids.

    I feel like I’m surrounded by cancer. My uncle is battling lung cancer and his prognosis is not good. He is taking chemo and though his tumors have shrunk, the cancer has moved into his bones. My aunt (his wife) is also battling breast cancer at the same time. My cousin has Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma and she is not doing well. She is down to 95lbs. Her daughter was married 2 weeks ago and she could only stay for the wedding but not the reception. Her chemo is killing her body and right now it is touch and go for her.

    Sorry for being a downer right now. This is one of the many reasons Jill really pisses me off. She is a woman who has everything but she can’t be happy unless she is destroying others. It sickens me that she tried to play her husbands’ cancer as a weapon to destroy “B”. She cheapened he husband’s illness for personal gain. I can imagine how scared Bobby must have been when he was diagnosed. But, his bitch of a wife was busy partying with the likes of Jon Gosseling and Perez Hilton. Then she used this awful disease as a tool to try to destroy a fellow cast-mates’ reputation and cast her as a cold unfeeling bitch. Well we got to see who the real cold and unfeeling bitch really was. It’s Jill. I’m sorry but for that fact and that fact alone I will never forgive her. Cancer is too real for too many people. I wouldn’t have expected Jill to don sackcloth and ashes while Bobby was going through his illness. But her antics, partying, and using the illness the way she did just sickens me.

    Again, I’m not trying to have a pity party but it is a difficult time for me. I’m blessed with a supportive husband and children. I’m not rich but I have decent insurance. I will get through this. I won’t allow anything to beat me. Thanks for listening.

    • Katiecoo says:

      ((((((shadows))))) Big hug to you. The TRUE face of reality like here. Just hearing your story (reminding me of how cancer has also touched mine ) also makes my blood boil of how Zarin used her husband’s brief bout with cancer to the detriment of others. It’s just plain evil, that is. How does one “forgive” that? Um Jill, it’s not what you did, IT IS WHO YOU ARE.

      Hang in there…and rest well tonite.

    • wvurn says:

      So sorry to hear you’re going through this. You and your family will be in my prayers.
      I’m a RN, if you ever have a question or need help, just ask.

      • shantygal says:

        Wow shadows, this makes the Jill hate even more justifiable. Sending calm, healing vibes out to you and your family.

        New blog – I Hate Cancer.

        • anniieee says:

          Lurking before I go out of town. @Shadows–sending angels and saints your way..will hold you tight in my prayers. Know that we all love and listen on this blog and do care for our cyberfriends. Hugs…sending strength your way. 🙂

    • RileyKitty says:

      I will keep good thoughts for you daily until you make it through this, Shadows. Sounds like you have a great support system, sometimes it seems like that is half the battle. ((((shadows))))

    • Kat says:

      I wish you the best Shadowsnomore. I hope the biopsy is benign.
      Please take care of yourself first.
      I wish your family well .

      And please do post. 😉

    • CdnFillie says:

      Hugs Shadow…you’re not alone. Things happen for a reason, and I sense you are a strong person…and you will get through this. I’d love to email u and keep in touch. Thoughts and prayers to you and the rest of your family.

    • char212 says:

      Hugs for you Shadow! I will keep you in my heart and pray the biopsy comes back clean.

    • Jenni says:

      Shadows, I am so sorry to hear about what you are going through. Have they staged you yet? Do you have a doctor that specialises in geneocolical oncology? When I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer, my first thought was what will happen to my son, so my heart really goes out to you and your family. Looking on the bright side, when you have the hysderectomy, they will also (most likely) take out this layer of fat that is located on top of the uterus!

    • MickeyMouth says:


    • MoDee says:

      Shadows, Believe me when I say that I know exactly what you’re going through, being an ovarian cancer survivor myself at the age of 38. I know that even if you are handed the verdict of cancer, you will rise above it (after bouts of crying) and say “It will not win !”

      I know what it feels like to want to have someone to talk with about this. It’s not easy to talk to your own family and friends about something they are not going through especially when you don’t know the diagnosis yet. But you will get through this devastating time of your life with your head held high!!

      I will keep you in my prayers and thoughts and wish you the very best, and keep in mind that having the hysterectomy is one of the best things to happen to keep all of this from spreading…hopefully Benign. Hugs to you.

    • mariareads says:

      shadowsnomore you WILL get through this. I have a terror reaction whenever a doctor tells me they are looking for cancer. But what we all don’t realize is that when caught early, many cancers are beatable, especially uterine cancer. My gyno thought I had it years ago and when I burst into tears he said “this is completely curable-completely!” I wish you courage and nothing but a good outcome. Just tell yourself that the surgery will cure you and all will be well. Your body believes what you tell it and as someone with a chronic illness I say that with complete confidence. Positive energy and fight the fear with a warrior attitude. I know how scary this is and I understand what it’s like to have young children and be worried that you might have a very serious illness. Prayers for a positive outcome going out to you.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        You are NOT playing a card of any kind. I feel like I “know” many of you now, and this news is scary and devastating! If you need to talk, you go ahead. Life does not give us many guarantees, but this is one I know I can make with confidence, we will be here for you. If you need a laugh or a hug or just an ear, we will be here. You are loved here, lady!

  129. lillybee says:

    Lynn, I don’t know if you care about the Duggars but I would love to find a place to snark about them and go off topic. So much needs to be said about this odd family.

    • RileyKitty says:

      Oh I’m in for sure!!!

    • little rock says:

      Totally agree. They are not well thought of here in AR, in fact most people i’ve talked to around here are disgusted by them.

      • Really??? Why?
        The family is odd for sure, 19 kids isn’t normal, and I’m sure some of the kids suffer because there is no way they are all getting the attention they deserve, but other than that they seem like really nice people.
        I admit I’ve only seen the show a handful of times, but I didn’t see anything “disgusting”. Tell me more please.

  130. cusi77 says:

    Thank you shadows for sharing your story… MANY, many hugs for you!

    Hang in there. If your GIN is not doing your first procedure ASAP is good news.

    I had hysterectomy when I was 23 for another reason. I had my baby with C section, got infected and spent 60 days in ER. God and his Angels are with you!

    And you are so Blessed to have your family support. Come here, we all can relate with you. Hugs.

  131. I’m feeling yucky (asthma trying to flare up–it’s this damned humid weather!) and saw several posts of others being sick or something more serious, so I just wanted to say I’ll be keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers. 🙂

    Good night everyone! I’m hitting the sack with a heating pad on my eyes. Keeps the sinus swelling down and feels so good to boot! TTYL!

  132. Katiecoo says:

    Ok to all of us who have had weird or crummy days…here is something that will make you laugh in a weird way…you don’t have to know whatever language this is to find this funny. Supposedly a serious interview topic, check out the interviewer’s reaction to the man’s voice:

    • Kat says:

      Hilarious. Worse than laughing at a funeral?
      And once the silly spell starts it has a course of its own.
      Thank you for that. 😉

    • lillybee says:

      I can so see Andy Cohen doing this on a WWHL with Danielle.

  133. cusi77 says:

    @Katy__ thanks for the laugh! You are right, it does not matter the language!

  134. Thanks all! I’m going to try to sleep now. That’s been difficult as of late. I’m going to put today behind me and in the words of my 5 year old …”Today is a new day!’. Like him, I’m going to try to approach each day positively and treat it like the gift it truly is. Goodnight and good dreams to all.

  135. RileyKitty says:

    Anyone else still here? I had to run to the in-laws (they are out of town) & take a bath, seems my hubby now has my flu & was occupying our only bathroom…. what I wouldn’t do to have Teresa’s tacky McMansion & it’s many bathrooms right now.

    • Kat says:

      I’m out, good night RK!

    • shantygal says:

      I’m here, but need to get to bed soon. Sorry you’re sick. Everyone seems to have something health related going on right now.

      • RileyKitty says:

        Shanty I answered you on my blog. I am much better today but I am sure my son will get it next. I think i am heading to bed too. See you all tomorrow night. Spending the day at the pool tomorrow & then the kids ballgame tomorrow night. THEN REUNION pt3!!!!

  136. Katiecoo says:

    Ok here is just one more as I seem to be stuck in youtube right now….I have tears in my eyes over this one. The only thing that would have made it topical would have been that it was KKB on the runway here:

      • shantygal says:

        What is it about other people falling that is so damn FUnny? Never fails to make be burst – especially the Zarin splat.

      • Katiecoo says:

        that laughter is just so contagious! I’m dying over here…at least it doesn’t show her face so I don’t feel so bad and we all know we’ve done that exact thing before..usually though I’m in the living room, in bare feet! lol

  137. Kat says:

    Just Shoe me! LMAO
    Now good night all.
    I hope all who are ill get better and those who are healthy stay that way.

  138. shantygal says:

    Good night all. I sure hope I don’t dream about HW’s tonight. I have for about the last 5 days.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I had a HW related dream last night too…freaky! It wasn’t a nightmare though…I wasn’t stuck in an elevator with Jill and Kelly. 😉

      Nite all……….manana!

  139. Poor Gilles...check out the first sentence, third paragraph says:

    Gilles Bensimon is a top fashion photographer and the International Creative Director of ELLE magazine. He has also been the photographer on the reality television series America’s Next Top Model. [1]

    Born in Paris, France in 1944, he joined the French ELLE in 1967, where he met his first wife Pascha. When the American ELLE was launched in 1985, Bensimon was invited to join it. Here he photographed many well-known models, including Christy Turlington, Claudia Schiffer, Lisa Snowdon, Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks, Rachel Williams, Honor Fraser, Yasmin Le Bon and Beverly Peele. In 1985 he also met his second wife, Australian supermodel Elle Macpherson, but they divorced in 1989. In 1999, he became the director of the American ELLE.

    He has one child with Pascha, and two daughters, Sea and Thaddeus “Teddy”, with his third wife, well known whackadoo Kelly Killoren Bensimon who is on the reality show The Real Housewives of New York City. The couple is now divorced. Since that time, Bensimon has been linked to several fashion models including Estella Alt,[citation needed] and recently art historian Diana Widmaier-Picasso, granddaughter of Pablo Picasso.

  140. boston02127 says:

    Is the Blog stuck?

  141. Squirrels says:

    Gm Boston

  142. RileyKitty says:

    Morning ladies!!!

  143. boston02127 says:

    Good morning Squirells & RileyKitty. 🙂

  144. RileyKitty says:

    Anyone else hoping tonight is the last you will see if Jill Zarin, aside from reruns? LOL

  145. boston02127 says:

    Kelly gets so fixated on things. She won’t quit with the bullying thing. Here’s her tweet:
    @BravoPuppetSpy bulleying at any age is disgusting. in your 40s its hard to watch. do u like watching them yell at me about nonsense?
    I don’t think Kelly has full custody of her kids. I don’t know how she could, I read her tweets and she’s never home.

    • RileyKitty says:

      I agree she is never home. thank goodness for small favors, her kids may just have a chance.

    • Squirrels says:

      dang. I think the most telling word here is “nonsense”. To her, conversations are white noise, to those she impacts? Near insanity.

  146. Quincy IL says:


    Jill is celebrating with Brad and the “family.” She makes nasty comments about her caste mates while watching the show. I think we all know who Jill is and how she operates. Bethenny has flaws, but the “channeling of the devil” is coming from the Trump apartment building where the Zarin’s reside.

    How can you apologize and then spew hate? I just don’t understand why Bobby would support Jill. Brad… I get it. He wants to be a celebrity and is riding on coat tails.
    I have watched mean women manipulate men with sex here in farmland USA. The men are oblivious to what the women are doing.

    Bethenny made a comment about Jill calling others not to film with her. Jill compared it to Kelly’s entrance on the show. It’s not the same. Jill was in her own words “a sister” to Bethenny. They were so close that they call the break up a divorce. When you are that close and you tell others not to film in order to hurt someone’s chance with a new show, that is on a higher level than telling someone not the film with someone that you aren’t friends with at all. To try to harm someone you claim to love is channelling Satan.

    I’m really getting into the Zarin planet lexicon. I enjoy using her words to explain my depth of feeling about people like Jill across the universe.

    The PR people helping Jill are sinking with her Titanic. You can’t defend evil and expect to come out of it with a clean suit.

    • RileyKitty says:

      Jill is the exact same person we have been watching on the show all season. She can cry editing all she wants but in the end we have all her quotes, tweets, blogs, & interviews that just keep proving she is exactly the same vile bitch crowded around her speakerphone who had to ask what disproportionate mean while mouthing I know what it means with a smug look on her nasty face. (sure you did, Jill) All the while someone she claimed to have once been like a sister to is trying to hold herself together & not cry. That takes ice water running through your veins. Nothing will convince me that there isn’t a lump of coal beating where her heart should be.

    • error 404 says:

      how does someone like Jill have so many friends!?!

  147. Barb says:


    I hope this posts… This is back ground on Kelly in Rockford,Il growing up and her family. Pops is a lawyer and this nut job has a twin brother! I think he may be a lawyer with his Dad. Although interesting the comments to the piece are what got me.

    • Squirrels says:

      “My name is Kelly Killoren Bensimon.
      If there is one thing you should know about me is that I am not what you may think I am. I am not spoiled. In fact, I have been working since I was 16 just like most of you. And, I went to high school and college just like most of you. And, I have two kids just like you. And, I have amazing parents and a twin brother and an older sister, maybe not just like you, but I do have siblings, just like you. What makes me different is that I am me, and you are you”

      After that opening, I just couldn’t force myself to read further. Were I 5yrs old, I might think differently.

    • TLM says:

      That was weird. “I divorced my husband to have a stage two”?!?!?

      She says she was asked to speak at Columbia? Was that for the evening division students, or a small gathering in one of the dorms, or what? It cannot possibly have been for the whole school. I want to know wtf this woman’s deal is. Schizophrenia often emerges in one’s thirties. I wonder if she was ok until then, and has been struggling with medication issues. Alcohol is not recommended with medication for schizophrenia, and that could be why she claims she doesn’t drink, or tries not to drink. The meds can cause weight gain. Could that be why KKB works out so often and had lipo?

    • desertgal66 says:

      The brother is a lawyer, but he practices in South Carolina. I think the father is retired.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      blah blah buh-blah blah

    • Funny, the comments are dated May 2009 but are still very fitting for today. So, basically she’s been despicable since day one!

  148. Viki55 says:

    Good Morning everyone! Just lurking and surfing:)

    • KookADoodleDo says:

      VERY interesting KellyHannah! Thanks for posting the link.
      From that article:
      ““Ally! What’s the name of my personal shopper at Bergdorf’s?” Jill screams. Jill’s teenage daughter is lingering on a sofa, arms folded. Ally says, “On the show, you see my mother talking over everybody — which she does — and I seem really lazy, like I sleep all the time, which isn’t true.” Ally lost a few friends at school when Jill planned a birthday party for her at Tao and parents canceled the night before, not wanting their children to appear on a reality show. Jill feels guilty but notes that Ally is “very secure in herself” in spite of Mom’s terrifyingly public efforts to get her to lose weight. “

  149. Quincy IL says:

    Did you see that?

    I just tuned into NY housewives 2008…Hamptons… Ally says that she wants to go to the detox to lose weight. Jill is delighted and says it’s expensive so she needs a hug.

    Bethenny was right again in this reuniot when she said it was a
    “fat camp.” Jill denied it. Jill, Bravo just showed us again that you sent Ally there to lose weight. Jill hates it that Ally is heavy…

    When the viewers pick this information up, it’s not our fault that we come to these conclusions.

    I am so sick of Jill and Jill’s family’s lies and attacks. They are despicable people.

    • Squirrels says:

      it’s coming on in 7 mins here, lol

    • Squirrels says:

      Yikes !!!

      So many mixed messages.

    • Bethenny said “weight loss camp” not “fat camp” info like everyone’s saying. Seems minor but the difference in tone and intention is huge. She was just relaying info that had actually happened. Jill villainized Bethenny for it but she actually deserves credit.

  150. Barb says:


    Not a fat camp eh? Ally seems to say : Shapiro decided it was time for gastrointestinal rehab. I love when this idiot has something in either print or video the denies it…

  151. kellyhannah says:

    watching season one for the first time….WOW… Ramona looks so much younger with shorter hair…my mother was right …long hair on older ladies sometimes drags the face down.

  152. little rock says:

    3 weeks ago, right before reunion taping. Conversation b/t jill zarin and PR guru jonathan cheban:
    JC: Let’s go over the main points one last time. No yelling at the other women, no making those horrid faces that will just end up as a banner on one of those anti-jill sites. No lying, you have to own up to what you’ve done this season. Be contrite. And keep saying “I’m sorry”, “I made a mistake”, “you’re right”, “I held a grudge, it was wrong”, “I’ve changed”, “I’m a better person now”.

    Jill: Got it. Do you really think this will work? Think you can make people forget I was a lying, conniving, bitch and make them love me again?

    JC: (thinking to self: she’s got me confused with that other man with the initials JC)
    Just follow the steps we’ve been working on and if all else fails, cry. Really hard. And most importantly, remember our secret weapon: the rodrigo otazu cuff bracelet. Every time you lie or start to fuck up, i’ll push the button on the remote and you’ll get a shock to remind you to get back on track. Just think of me as your conscience and let me guide you through this.

    Jill: Like jiminy cricket?

    JC: Uh…. yeah, jiminy cricket.

    Jill: Does that make me Pinocchio? YES! People LOVE Pinocchio! Oh, oh! I know, gloria is Geppetta! And, and lisa is Donkey boy! (in a sing-song voice) Lisa iiiiss donkey boy, lisa iiiss donkey boy. I’m Pinocchio, and i want to be a REAL boy. You know, gloria wanted me to be a boy.

    JC: Jill, stay focused. (thinking to self: Holy shitballs!)

    Present day. Before part 3 of the reunion airs. Phone conversation b/t jill zarin and jonathan cheban:

    Jill: G@%$&#it jonathan! It’s NOT WORKING! Everybody STILL hates me!

    JC: What did you expect? It’s called damage control, not EXTREME MAKEOVER: JEALOUS BITCH EDITION.

    Jill: You told me that f#%@ing bracelet would help turn things around. For 9 hours, it felt like i was sitting in the electric chair with you zapping me every 5 seconds.

    JC: It worked didn’t it? Like when you told ramona she was “SUCH a LIAR!”, zzzzzttttt! Then you admitted the truth. Didn’t that feel good?

    Jill: Hell no, it felt like i’d been tased, bro! And for what? People still don’t like me! All the blogs are saying alex DID tell me bethenny’s father was sick,dammit! Where was that f#@%ing cattle prod when i needed to own up to THAT one? That’s what i’m paying you for!

    JC: No, you’re paying me to improve your image. Believe me, zapping you with a cattle prod is free. Besides, i had to take a leak. I thought you could handle yourself for 3 minutes.

    Jill: You know i can’t go 3 minutes without lying! Now everybody is taking that bitch alex’s side! Just wait til tonight when i nail her bony ass with those nude photos!

    JC: I don’t know, alex has come out of this season looking good. And you made that horrid face when you said “spread-eagle in your husband’s hotel”, i’m just waiting for THAT freeze frame to show up on the web!

    Jill: What, so you work for ALEX now, suddenly you’re on HER side? What are you, best friends? Whatever! You’re coming over to watch the show aren’t you? I’m saving a spot for you on the bed between bobby and ginger.

    JC: Uh…….. I’ve had a client emergency that just came up. I’ve got to go handle the whole kim kardashian/justin bieber thing, it’s getting creepy.

    Jill: Oh, so now you’re best friends with kim kardashian! You’d rather work with her than me?

    JC: Let’s be honest, i’d rather work with tony hayward than you.

    Jill: Who the f%#@ is tony hayward?

    JC: You really ARE self-absorbed. He’s the CEO of BP.

    Jill: You’re saying you’d rather help THAT asshole than ME?

    JC: At least THAT asshole COULD be helped, YOU, not so much. I’d rather represent john edwards/tiger woods/jessie james(BOTH jessie james’s) as a package deal than work with you!

    Jill: Enough! I get it!

    JC: (on a roll now) I’d rather represent the love child of lindsey lohan and kanye west FREE of charge than work with you again.

    Jill: That’s IT, jonathan, we are DONE!

    JC: (mutters to self) Thank you baby jesus!

  153. Squirrels says:

    hahaha. I can see the steam pouring out of her ears.

    Well done my dear.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      WOW! Even though this article tries, unsuccessfully, to defend Kelly, look at the photo that they ran with the peice! Holy shitballs, Kelly looks like utter hell in that photo, it also gives you a close up of her deformed chest, what the hell is that? She said something about breaking a bone during the delivery of a baby. I’ve never heard of that but its not out of the realm of possibility, however, that doesn’t look like a broken bone, does it?

      • Squirrels says:

        That baby had to be up between her lungs for it to break her sternum.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Looks like a large diaphram got shoved up there, doesn’t it? LOL! You know, cause she’s all virginal and all.

        Or, since she looks like a tranny, could be that’s her misplaced lady parts! That’s it! That’s where they are!

      • Quincy IL says:

        I googled this, Lynn. It’s true. Women can have this happen. I don’t know why she doesn’t have it repaired because she is so proud of being in a bikini.

  154. Squirrels says:

    hahaha. She admits she has no clue when Ramona is asking tech questions, but still….Luann is walking around w/ Victoria’s crop at the horse event.

    (pay attention to me, I obviously have a personal connection here).


    • Squirrels says:

      by my snark I mean, I’m sure Victoria asked her to hold my crop?

      Heaven forbid she asked her to hold my sweaty helmet….

      sorry…. she’s just ghastly in her transparency.

  155. Barb says:

    Free advertisement on Alex’s blog lol….


    Why did you have dinner with a woman who has an I HATE JILL ZARIN blog? That was uncalled for.

  156. boston02127 says:

    Hi Lynn-Great blog as usual. I hope you don’t change the name. Maybe when she leaves the show? *fingers crossed

    Hi everyone—Are we blogging east/west coast tonight? Is it going to bother anyone on the west coast?

    Kokuanani – Happy Birthday Day

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