I Hate Jill Zarin Tuesday Updates June 22,2010

I Hate Jill Zarin      Tuesday Update            June 22, 2010

Why can’t I stay away from The Real Housewives of New Jersey?  This has to be the most disappointing show on Bravo since Launch My Line.  That show I easily turned off, or maybe I just found something better to watch.  Even as I sit and watch Teresa plan a ridiculously expensive party while filing for bankruptcy, as I watch Jacqueline try to have a serious conversation with her smirking smart-ass daughter and Danielle visiting her doctor, I want to change the channel.  Before I know it, the show is half over and then I figure, what’s the point of changing it now? 

I don’t have a Neilson Rating box in my home, so I’m not encouraging Bravo to keep this show on the air, right? 

Three women seem to be fighting for the one opening that Dina left, we have two Kim’s and one Elvira.  Elvira apparently even announced that she WAS the newest New Jersey Housewife but Andy Cohen put the kibosh on that by tweeting: 

BravoAndy:    To the Lady named Elvira sending out press releases saying ur the new RHNJ: It ain’t true. Ur on 2nite’s ep for 10 mins tho. Enjoy+Sorry!

It appears to me that the two Kim’s are also vying for the position, one is telling tall tales about Jacqueline to Caroline.  The other is a drunkin fool who decides to make a speech during Teresa’s housewarming party.  The speech was cut out of Bravo’s final edit of the show, thank goodness. 

If I had to wager a guess, I would say that none of these three women will be regular players on the show next season.  Here’s hoping Mr. Cohen can do a better job of casting this show.  I know that there has to be women in New Jersey who would make great Housewives.  Maybe they’re all too smart to want to be part of the craziness! 

This episode Teresa tells us that she has been living in that house for a year and is only now planning a housewarming party.  It seems to me that the Giudice’s moved into the Golden Money Sucking Castle at the end of last season.  I don’t know when each season was filmed but it doesn’t seem possible that a whole year has passed,  I don’t care enough to do the math.  I found it a bit odd that the two couches that Juicy Joe doesn’t love were still sitting all alone in the Living room, exactly where we left them at the end of last season.    No coffee table or chairs to keep them company.  Teresa gave us the plan for the room, unfortunately for her, Juicy Joe can’t deliver. 

I would not even attempt to try to put a price tag on Teresa’s housewarming party, the servants, the party planner from hell, the exterior decorations including up-lights, we had a light up bar, dance floor installed, and complete furnishings.  Entertainment included a guy who swallowed fire, a DJ and Teresa’s ingenious speech.  Whatever the charges were, we know that they are probably rolled into those credit card bills that are included in the bankruptcy.  Isn’t that what people do right before they file?  Charge up everything to the maximum so that they can include it in the total debt?  Wipe it all away and start all over again?  I don’t know, just asking….

So just to be sure I understand, Jacqueline doesn’t care who Kim is friends with, she is going to give her a chance but Teresa doesn’t want anything to do with Kim because Kim is friends with Danielle.  In the end, Kim got a last minute invitation to Teresa’s party and didn’t think twice about attending?   Who does that?  I think it was pretty clear that Teresa had no intention of inviting Kim, yet a last minute call from a friend of the hostess made Kim jump up and put her party dress on.  Apparently Kim does that as long as Bravo’s cameras are going to be rolling.  

I will deny it if anyone ever calls me out on it, but I did tear up a little bit when Caroline was taking to Albie about his education.  When she talked about a mother’s feelings when your child is hurting, how could you not sympathize?   No one really explained what Albie’s issues are, there are many different learning disabilities and Caroline described it as a “form of ADD”.  Best I could tell he has trouble reading and comprehending which would make it difficult to be an attorney even if he can graduate from law school.  Attorneys have to read, a lot!  Caroline discussed this briefly when she appeared on Watch What Happens Live and told us that there will be a happy ending!  So why are we watching this again?

The Manzo family dinner was pretty dull, I was a little surprised that they teased Albie about being just good looks, particularly after his issues with law school and his learning issues.  It seemed a bit insensitive but they clearly are a close family and they celebrate the kid’s hard work. 

Jacqueline and Chris talking with Ashley were the most annoying scenes of the night!  The conversation started off being Ashley apologizing for her behavior during the poker game that we saw last week, how did it turn into Ashley moving back home?  That kid with the smirk on her face, smiling while apologizing and snickering while she agrees to all of the demands of the parents was just infuriating.  I would not trust that kid to follow the rules at all!  I really don’t understand why she would want to move back home in any case.  Jacqueline tweeted last night that the conversation with Ashley lasted a lot longer than was shown.  I only hope it included a sincere apology, somehow I doubt it. 

Jacqueline’s blog said that the car that they gave to Ashley last season was given away, I really don’t understand that either, why would you give it away and not sell it?  Why would you give it away at all?  What did Ashley do to have her vehicle taken away?  Whose car was she driving last night?  Why do I care?  Why am I watching this again?

Danielle’s surgery was a little scary!  First off, was her operation done in a strip mall store front with a light up letters that were spurting and sparking and missing bulbs?  Did her doctor say he was looking forward to doing her surgery?  Did the doctors in the operating room seem like two frat boys discussing some chick’s boobs?  Did Bravo show us way more of Danielle’s boobs than anyone needs to see?  The only redeeming scene was Danielle’s daughters on the show last night, I really like those two girls!  Say what you want about Danielle but her girls are lovely, gracious and smart girls. 

Just a quick Thank you to Bravo for not showing Teresa’s kids! 

So who thinks that Bravo is going to bring in an additional housewife and who thinks they’re going to finish the season with just the four ladies?  A better question, do you care? 

I used to really look forward to Watch What Happens Live but the changes that they’re making are NOT improving the show!  I would look forward to hearing whom Andy Cohen chose for his Mazel of the week and the Jack hole, now with three options, we already know at the beginning of the show what the choices will be and I couldn’t care less which gets more viewer votes.   The jack hole is the person who stole something from his back deck?  Do we care?  Were there more deserving choices? 

What the hell was that photo of Danielle with Dina’s cat on her boobs?  Is Bravo trying to change WWHL to suit the demographics for The Real Housewives of New Jersey?   Are they trying to make a fool of RHONJ fans?  Dumb down the show for the change in venue?  Maybe Monday night viewers are not as sophisticated as Thursday night fans?  What the hell is it Cohen?   I’ll tell you what, that ugly cat in the place of Danielle’s tata’s should have offended her, it sort of offended me!  It wasn’t funny at all!  Watch What Happens Live has become a pathetic joke! 

Danielle singing was the oddest thing I’ve seen in a long time, she seemed to be trying to seduce the woman at the keyboards who apparently wrote the song.   Andy even asked her if they were “together” and Danielle coyly answered that she won’t be answering that question. 

No one is going to convince me that Danielle is a lesbian!  She has shown time and time again that she loves men!  This is clearly some publicity stunt that she is trying to pull to get more attention.  Kim Zolciak tried it too and it made her look like a complete fool! 

The 13-year old boy who calls in every week is becoming creepy!  Who lets a 13-year old boy watch the Real Housewives?  Who lets him stay up until past 11pm to call into a TV talk show?  I’m looking forward to him being away at summer camp….jeeze I can’t believe how ridiculous this whole thing is!  Andy adding at the end of the call that he would meet him in person  when he returns from camp made it even more gross!  Yes, Kelly, this is gross!  Women discussing their feelings, not gross. 

FYI, in case anyone is interested, the reason that my Amazon account has my mother’s name (Cathie Mulholland) on it is because I ordered her some books that she asked for and I had them sent directly to her (Gone with the Wind stuff) when I signed back on to leave some reviews, I didn’t realize it was still in her name until I hit the send on the review, it wouldn’t let me change the name, but there is still only one review attributed to me.  You won’t find one under Lynn Hudson.  I actually wanted it to say Lynn Hudson because I wanted to be sure that Alex & Simon knew that I left them a positive review but you can’t change the name once you post the review. 

Until Next Time…….


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532 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Tuesday Updates June 22,2010

  1. Barb says:


    I hope this works hard to copy from the phone 🙂

  2. iceNfire says:

    I’ve posted under wrong name on amazon too. I use different names according to the genre of book I’m commenting on.

  3. Kotagirl says:

    I couldn’t agree more. If only Nurse Jackie and United States of Tara were still in season on Showtime, I wouldn’t have to watch RHONJ. I can’t fault you for finding the scene with Caroline and Albie touching, (I might have gotten a little misty-eyed) however the rest of the show was a total disappointment. As for WWHL, don’t get me started. Why didn’t Andy Cohen, who was soooo offended by Joe’s gay comments last year, let Damnsmell have a pass and not bring up her pimp’s even more offensive slur. The singing, well I dont’ consider it singing. It was too soft to be singing. I want to hear some volume and projection before I pass judgment, but I wasn’t impressed and really grossed out watching her fondle her duet partner. As for the 13 year old, I am not as bothered by the fact that he watching the show as I am about the fact that week after week he gets through and has his questions answered and can make statements when the rest of us get ignored. Enough with Ben already! Andy Cohen has gone from being VP in charge of programming to VP in charge of kissing Housewife asses. A very disappointing Monday night for Bravo TV.

    • iceNfire says:

      Andy Cohen VP in charge of programming. Not Andy Cohen in charge of casting. I think I’ve been writing to the wrong idiot all along.

  4. kats2 says:

    Love you Lynn but you were far too nice in this latest blog regarding last night’s NJ episode.

    I already posted it on your previous blog so I won’t bore anyone again, but basically this NJ group is toast. And I think there are many of us who have stopped watching or are going to stop watching if Bravo continues with this same group and add more of same garbage. Enough already we get it they all hate Danielle, but is there nothing else at all for them to discuss? They have proven that’s all they got. So time for some real peeps with real money and influence who happen to live in Jersey.

    If I feel like dumpster diving in NJ I will watch Snooki and that crew on MTV. So as the Countess would say sortir les ordures (roughly – take out the trash in french)

    • Squirrels says:

      I tried. I really did try to watch NJ. It’s just that my brain is geared with auto shut off. A defense mechanism passed down through the generations. (Not to be confused with the Kelly Turn Down the Volume CD/DVD set – $3.99 @ Walmart)

  5. Quincy IL says:

    Danielle had something done to her chin too. You can see a yellow stain and a Bandaid in the middle of her chin.

    I think Danielle got a discount on her surgery if she let frat boys discuss how gross her deformity was.

    The good news is now Danielle can feel sexy again. What will she do next pole dance for money in her underpants or release a sex tape? Like Teresa, Danielle is taking a “fresh start,” but Danielle’s is a new sex life.

    I really don’t care if someone is gay or not. A close friend of mine because a lesbian after a 25 year marriage and two great kids. It does bother me when people, like Kim Zolciak, pretend to be gay for publicity. I hope Danielle isn’t doing that. It kinda insulting to gays if you ask me.

    • celeste says:

      Danielle got the surgery for free in exchange for publicity – she took a leaf out of Jill “The Beak” Zarin’s book.

    • dancekrazy says:

      I agree with quincy. As an O.R. nurse, there would be no reason for Danielle to have a “betadine” stain and band-aid on her chin unless she had an implant put in (although they usually make the incision under the chin). But something was done though, maybe a lipo. All I know is that Danielle looked totally different on “Watch What Happens” last night.
      And I don’t think that she’s a lesbian either. Being a self-proclaimed GAY ADVOCATE, she’d have no problem saying it straight out…..nothing to be ashamed of right, Danielle? But she, like Zarin, is a publicity seeker to the nth degree. Danielle would say she landed in a UFO in Roswell if it would get her in the papers or keep her on the show. So much for Gay Advocacy.
      AND ONTO JILL ZARIN: On Thursday, make sure you take an anti-nauseant because, as you all know, we are actually going to have to hear (and see) Jill jewelry shopping with Bobbie and telling him, “IF I FEEL JEWELRY, YOU MAY FEEL SOMETHING GOOD LATER ON.” The unseen tapes are going to air on Thursday, and that one is going to induce vomiting in me BIG TIME. Were I Bobbie, I would buy her anything she wanted as long as she promised NOT to touch me and sleep in another bedroom! In Teresa’s words, “I scheeve” her.
      ABOUT BETHENNY’S NEW SHOW: I am so thrilled that it is doing well. But if Jill even pops her little, stubby hand onto Bethenny’s belly (shown on the early previews), that show will be missing one viewer…….ME.
      God, I love this website

      • smellcatpee says:

        Danielle has copped to only having botox, or “injectables” as Ramona calls them. However, in the recovery room, without her makeup on, you can clearly see the tell tale scars in the creases of her eyelids from an eyelift or whatever kind of procedure that is legal to perform on insects in a New Jersey stripmall Doctors office.

  6. KookADoodleDo says:

    From Teresa’s latest Bravo blog:
    “It was sad to see only four of us in the opening credits (especially compared to the seven ladies in the New York credits!) We need a new Housewife to replace Dina, yes? I vote … Elvira!

    I know, I know, she’s a “whackadoodle” as Bethenny puts it. (Yes, that was Elvira on Bethenny Getting Married last week!) But that’s what makes her fun. She makes me laugh. She’s off-the-wall and I’m over-the-top, so we complement each other. She is an amazing party planner too. ”

    ELVIRA?? Is she kidding? Seems Andy Cohen denied this on Twitter though.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Actually, I think Elvira is a combination of Ramona and Jill. I think she’d be a hoot. Bethenny liked her.

      • kats2 says:

        Bethenny left Elvira’s house so fast I thought her pants were on fire. No way did Bethenny really like her and you know Elvira and T-Man spent hours on the phone trashing B.

        • HD says:

          Bethanny was at Elvira’s house? I only slightly paid attention last night and was dozing off and on. This was the party planner, right? Bethanny was at the party planner’s house? I am so lost. That show is so boring I just can’t focus.

          • kats2 says:

            Yes remember on BGM she went with Max to some Jewish event in Jersey that was Elvira.

            • HD says:

              Ohhhhhhhhhhhh!! Thanks, Kats2. I will be sure to pay attention to that when they re-air the show.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                Ahhh, so the party planner and the Jewish Hostess with the mostess were the same person. I didn’t connect the two.

                As per Andy’s tweets, I am guessing she shot herself in the foot for trying too hard.

                Personally, I find her agitating and her narcissism came through in what limited exposure she had. I don’t think I have the patience for much more.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      seems T might have a case of loose lips…..Teresa is the only one who had a scene with Elvira and maybe she is being considered as a replacement and Andy is getting fed up with these women commandeering his franchises!

      • Jennifer says:

        Maybe that’s how Teresa ‘paid’ her….. Give me the party and I’ll make you a housewife…..

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I think it’s fair to assume Bravo paid for the party- the same way they paid for Ramona’s bachlorette (and I presume Betheny’s wedding).

          If T is trying to put her money on Elvira, it’s probably because she isn’t connected to Danielle in anyway- unlike the two Kims thus it could push D out of the story lines.

  7. Quincy IL says:

    Are you allowed to comment about Alex’s book on Amazon if you didn’t buy it there I got mine in a bookstore?

    • Gingers poo says:

      Sure, mention you purchased it elsewhere to avoid the “no verified purchase” issues.

    • desertgal66 says:

      I’ve reviewed books on Amazon when I’ve bought them elsewhere. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that, and Amazon doesn’t have a rule against doing so, as far as I know.

    • Yes, there are many reviews from people who didn’t buy the product from Amazon. You don’t necessarily have to mention in your review at all where you bought the product.

      If you have bought a product from Amazon, you can let readers know that by keeping the box checked that says “Label this review so customers know you purchased this item at Amazon.”

      If you didn’t buy the product from Amazon, there is no “Label this review so customers know you purchased this item at Amazon” selection at all.

  8. kats2 says:

    Good catch will have to look for that. The Gawker recap had Prince Albie hooking up with one of the Kim’s (I think the pole dancer) at the Bellagio, oh I mean the house warming party – as Countess Crackerjacks would say “so dirty” That Gawker stuff is crazy funny.

    I’d love to know the happy ending to the Prince Albie story, is he back in school?
    I wonder if I were to google – Law School Professors, East Coast, broken leg, trunk
    If I would find anything. . . . 🙂

  9. kats2 says:

    So T-Man is best buddies with Elvira. All the scenes were totally scripted and might I add very bad acting. Let me guess they spent an afternoon with Gia’s acting coach to work out their lines and get into character.

    T-Man is a throw down, ready to rumble, table flipping, never met a fight she didn’t like, hardcore Jersey shore gal, no way she let anyone talk to her and be as rude as Elvira was, hell Danielle said less and got the table flipped at her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Teresa doesn’t know how to act around strangers!

    • BamaBelle says:

      Kats2… Exactly! I thought the same thing when Elvira was talking to Teresa that way, no way, why is Teresa putting up with this? And, Teresa did flip a table at Danielle for “Pay Attention, Puleeeze”.

      She let Elvira completely run all over her… argue about no pool, says furniture has to go, tells her no plastic, we’re using glass… are you afraid to break your marble floors. When Teresa says “I’m getting my hair done, do you need me”… Elvira said… NO, I don’t need you and something else.

      NOPE, Teresa wouldn’t put up with this! Even though it was good to see Teresa meet her match… maybe Teresa had to keep her mouth shut because maybe, just maybe, Elvira was giving her a BIG discount or free, to do the party on the show… showing she could go toe to toe with the NJ housewives!

      I did notice Elvira on BGM, but I thought she told Bethenny this was her house. I thought Bethenny said, “is this your house”, and she yes. I thought Elvira was holding that meeting in her house… I’ll have to watch it back to see.

  10. cusi77 says:

    Good Evening Lynn! Hello everybody!

    I totally agree with you about RHONJ.

    I agree that Danielle Daughters are the most adorable of all. In reality the only episode of NJHW was the one where Christine had her photo sesion! I want her to be succesful! Those girls have “Angel” -as we say in my family.

    Christine is so beautiful… lets imagine that in 6 years Albie falls for her… Caroline and Danielle in the same family?

    • MHil says:

      LOL! I can only imagine Caroline’s face.

    • dancekrazy says:

      Does anyone know if Christine is still with IMG or did her becoming sick and looking down on her “walk” make them drop her? In a later episode, Danielle said that Christine was modeling wedding gowns which isn’t exactly “supermodel” status. I feel bad for Christine because the bits and pieces of Danielle’s comments that we got on the show seemed to indicate that she was preparing Christine for the “bad” side of modeling.
      As gorgeous as Christine and Jillian are, could anyone out there imagine having to deal with their mother until they reach 18????? OMG


  11. Imseasquared says:

    I’m just catching the re-airing of the Albie “I got tossed out of law school scene.” There is no way in HELL that the professor told him he wasn’t good enough to be an attorney. I would BET that the school and the prof told Albie that because he failed certain classes he doesn’t get credit for them and needs to take them over during the summer. And in response, Albie decided he wasn’t willing to sacrifice prime tanning hours for studying so he decided not to come back.

    I just graduated law school myself and have stories of friends who were in similar “academic probation” situations. First of all, you are given several notices of the deficiency in grades and are put on probation before any disciplinary actions are taken. SECOND, no law school wants to have a “drop out” on its books. It does no good for a law school to have a high drop out rate so they make it very difficult for you to withdraw. My best friend went through this very situation and it was only AFTER she pointed out to the school that her deficient grades meant that she lost her academic scholarship and was unable to meet the tuition requirements, was she permitted to withdraw from the school. I’m guessing that Seton Hall was not anxious to lose a cash cow like Albie’s parents and their checkbook and most likely provided Albie with many alternative options to dropping out, he just didn’t feel like doing the work.

    I cry “misrepresentation” and hope the prof sues Albie for the defamation case he just opened up for himself by publicly defaming him on a reality show.

    • kats2 says:

      Imseasquared – thank you for the information I knew something about that scene/situation was not right or perhaps just created drama for Prince Albie to get more camera time.

      Congrats to you on your graduation!!!!

      So let me ask you by chance while you were studying and going to school were you hanging out with your parents friends, playing poker, giving advice to your counsins, starting a side Pasta Sause business, you know basically doing everything you could to be on TV? Just curious 🙂

    • emt2 says:

      Thank you. I knew that there was more to the story. Albie is lying because he doesn’t want to get in trouble for not doing his homework and studying. Seems like he is spending too much time being a reality TV star and not enough time studying. I didn’t have any sympathy for him at all.

    • BamaBelle says:

      Imseasquared… I believe you! With only a 1.9 GPA… no way Albie can continue in Law School. About his learning disability… if he has one, it didn’t affect graduating from High School or College. Something’s not right with what Albie said. I think he was trying to “save face” for failing out!

  12. Sheila says:

    Christine can come off snobbish during her commentaries, but the little one is adorable.

    Danielle showed one emotion throughout WWH last night. Does she not know how to smile?

    • desertgal66 says:

      I don’t know if I consider Christine snobbish as much as very, very guarded. I’ve noticed when her mother is around, and they are with other people, she goes very quiet. I don’t think she’s without confidence in herself, but I do think she’s insecure about her mother. Danielle is always so up and down, flip and flop, manic and depressive-her kids watch her like she’s a time bomb and they are just waiting for the next explosion. And I think Christine is self conscious about how Danielle behaves in public.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        agreed! Christine is of that special age where parents are just plain strange – but her mom is beyond strange into slutty and juvenile (facebook wars) and her friends probably watch the show. She has to be embarrassed big time by her mother.

      • MHil says:

        This may just be me, but Danielle asking her daughters if they love her didn’t sit right with me.

        • AndHowisWatchingSportsNotaWasteofTime? says:

          To me, asking your kids “do you love me?” is a big red flag. Not just narcissistic, but abusive and manipulative. Next step…”I thought you loved me” then “If you love me you would…” Sigh.

      • smellcatpee says:

        I think that Bethenny would actually be a great “Big Sister” to Christine. Bethenny has made no secret that she “grew up in an insane asylum” and it has made her savvy woman with a highly tuned b.s. detector. They would probably “recognize” each other right away.

        My mom wasn’t narcissistic like Danielle, but “dropped her basket” often enough to enjoy her share of “vacations” to the “hospital” for some “rest.” (They still did that back in the 70’s, now you have to be suicidal to even get one nights “rest.”) This made me have the maturity of a 40 year old at the age of 11. I taught myself to drive so I could get places when she was “off.” As a teenager I would laugh in her face when she would try to reassert her power, I had been getting myself to school on time and signing my own permission slips for years! Observing my friends have their rite-of-passage “I hate my parents” squabbles over curfew and boyfriends made me laugh….until you’ve had to unplug and hide all the phones in the house so that mommy doesn’t make threatening phone calls to her ex-husbands news wifes kids, you don’t know what teenage angst is!

        After all that, I’m as normal as any 40 something woman can be, great career, friends, functional in society. However, like Bethenny, and future Christine, my b.s. detector is so finely honed that my friends regularly bring around new boyfriends/girlfriends etc. so I can take a sniff at ’em! I have about 95 % success rate.

        • BamaBelle says:

          Smellcatpee… cute name!

          I’m so sorry you had a mother like that. I’m proud you survived and are successful… you should be very proud of yourself!

          I had the best mother and daddy a person could ask for, and a wonderful up-bringing. It’s hard for me to hear some of the things I do about what other people go through!

          That’s why I have always liked Bethenny… she made it against all odds! She would be a great Mentor for Christine.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      botox interference

      • Scorpiosue says:

        Danielle looked like a plastic doll. She looked so strange. Too much work done on her face.

    • MHil says:

      Aww I did feel bad for the younger one when Christine told her they looked different. I bet she looks up to her big sister, and wants to look just like her. They’re both adorable thought and I can barely see a resemblance to Danielle. Has Danielle effed up her own appearance through excessive surgery or something?

      • ImToula says:

        I think Danielle looked awful last night. I couldn’t believe how bad her face looked. The song wasn’t as bad as Lumann’s,but that dosen’t say much. SOOO….she wrote a book, recorded and song, and made a porn film….what is she going to be pushing next?

  13. cusi77 says:

    who thinks that Teresa is Jill’s new puppet to bother Bethenny?

    • kats2 says:

      Well we know T-Man is looking to make a buck and Jill lives with an ATM so match made in reality heaven.

      Plus, if Jill would become friends with Kelly anything is possible.

    • emt2 says:

      Didn’t you read T’s first guest blogs for NYC? She slammed B and she got slammed back by B’s fans and she changed her tune. T is just a dumb follower, anyway. She should be thanking B because what would T have written if B had not written Skinny Girl. T is copying B so much, I would call her a stalker.

  14. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lynn, you were too nice in your review of RHONJ…..that said, I had it on last night too! But it was more background noise than undivided attention because I have such a hard time watching those women and their children (the only ones I don’t find odious are the babies)! However, I did find Elvira’s baiting Teresa on the domestic help (or mysterious lack there of) issue pretty funny. And I can see why she moved there because no one in NYC would hire that tacky mess to plan an event! Hopefully, Bravo paid for that event because I wouldn’t want Elvira chasing me down for her bill!

    Andy has been off his game for awhile now. The Mazel and JHole of the week are uninteresting. I really looked forward to WWHL after the craziness of RHONY. Last week, Kathy Griffin asked so many interesting questions and then she kept talking and talking and he never really answered any of them. Then Ramona and Dina were a snoozefest. This week it was obvious he didn’t want to engage Danielle in any conversation and she sat there channeling Cher and threatening him to boot! He looked like he was tearing up during her tune and had a hard time with her sleazy attempted seduction of that poor song writer. Maybe he has too many crazy housewives calling him with their problems. His own blog has gone flat in content with no comments! He has two shows that need major revamps, two cases of gross employee insubordination (Jill and Kelly), and tons of annoyed viewers! The bright side – Andy’s essay on “what I did on my summer vacation” will be really interesting!

    Thank you for your brilliant blog Lynn and for all the witty folk who continue to chatter all things housewives.

    • emt2 says:

      Andy is becoming more and more sleazy with WWHL. I don’t like him anymore. And he needs to stop talking about that 13 year-old boy because it’s strange and creepy, not cute and fun.

      • True about Andy being sleezy. On WWHL, Bethenny (jokingly?) called him the devil and said that he plan was to eventually kill everyone [with all the HW drama]. It was in reference to Jill being constantly beat up. The look on his face was priceless. As if he were caught taking money from the cash register. His response was very defensive too, as if he’s covering something up.

        During the scene on the reunion show when Ramona stood up and stomped her feet about Jill coming to St. John all high and mighty and not apologizing for being a “shithead”, Andy was sitting there with a huge smile on his face probably thinking (ratings! ratings! ratings!) Ramona was clearly upset and his reaction was disturbing to me. Why, I don’t know. I don’t expect much from a “programmer”.

  15. Char212 says:

    I read the review of Silex’s book and it sure sounds to me that Edie Stone didn’t read it and doesn’t have a clue what’s in it. I then went to Gwen’s blog and here’s what Edie wrote and my reply.
    Edie Stone says:
    June 22, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    I love your blog and I am a big housewives fan.
    I just read Silex’s book. I put an honest review up of Silex’s book that was a one star review because thats how I felt about it. I am already being attacked by haters.
    Speaks volumes about Silex’s classless fans. Any advice?
    Here is the review.

    Char212 says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    June 23, 2010 at 1:28 am

    The advice would be to read the book before you review it. I’m not say this to be mean but it was perfectly obvious that you have no clue what is inside this book. I can respect an honest review, but when someone just reviews a book without reading it out of some silly revenge kind of thing is immature and irresponsible.

    It’s waiting for approval and I doubt that it will get posted so I’m putting it in here. I find it interesting on how Gwen doesn’t support honest and open conversation there and will only post comments of those who agree with her. Thank you Lynn for having the guts and the integrity to allow all opinions.

    • felony stupid says:

      Did the same thing earlier in regard to that exact JSamples/Edie’s post on that stupid blog…mine listed waiting for moderator for some time and then disappeared. Ms. G over there is a hypocrite. Go Lynn!!!

      Hope you have better luck!! 🙂

      • CdnFillie says:

        I just posted a reply, it came up with no delay

        • CdnFillie says:

          except there’s something funky going on with the time stamp..it showed I posted at 1:58 Am June 23, 2010. What time zone is that?

          • Waslurking says:


            • felony stupid says:

              CdnFillie – I’m seeing your stuff show up. Maybe if once she ‘approves’ you your stuff immediately shows up? She still hasn’t approved any of my posts and they have now been deleted from “waiting from moderator” status.

              I was confused by the timestamp as well. It seems to be 7 or so hours ahead of me (I’m on the westcoast). What is that? London?

    • cusi77 says:

      When you think that Jill has done enough to ruin her reputation… She can do it worst! Is somebody around who she can listen and stay quiet for a while? Attacking Bethenny was her downfall… she did not learn anything at all! Now she wants Alex and Simon skin!

  16. dumberries says:

    Sorry to switch cities, but wondering if any RHNY viewers noticed that we didn’t see Ramona’s close friend Joannie at all after the lunch where Ramona told her about her abusive childhood. In the first 2 seasons, we saw Joannie at all of Ramona’s events; but we didn’t see her at the TruRenewal launch or the renewal ceremony or anytime after that lunch. In the first episode of the season (on the boat) Zarin was trash-talking Ramona and she kinda baited Joanie into agreeing that Ramona was cheap; Joannie confided to Zarin that Ramona had asked for her own check at a recent lunch (oh, the shame!). Then the Zarin sigh of disgust and eye roll. It surprised me and I felt bad for Ramona because we’d never seen anything negative between Ramona and Joannie before. I kept wondering later in the season if Ramona was hurt by it and it affected their friendship. Maybe just editing or nothing at all, but I wondered if anyone else noticed Joannie’s absence.

    • kats2 says:

      Good catch, Joanie was not where to be found and how could you miss those eyebrows. But I didn’t even see her at the renewal ceremony. That’s odd.

      • dumberries says:

        It really was odd. I always thought that friendship seemed stronger than the ones between the HWs. Hopefully, Joannie and her eyebrows were just gone for the summer or something. I hope she didn’t take a sip of the poisonous Zarin kool-aid and then regret it.

  17. $16,000 purse says:

    I could’nt care less about RHONJ. I only look forward to Theresa going to jail for tax evasion/fraud. I hate Jill Zarin!

  18. HD says:

    I know I will get smashed for this but I thought Danielle sounded fairly good last night. The bar for Real Housewives “singers” has not been set very high though. Anything that is not saturated with Autotunes makes my ear take notice. And she sounded pretty good. (I am sure that woman wrote that song.)

    As for her being a lesbian…Danielle is one of those people that latches on to whatever or whoever can make her money, give her money or put her in the spotlight. That woman MAY be a lesbian, I don’t know, and Danielle would pretend to be a lesbian to get what she want out of that woman. Danielle is manipulative and a user.

    I slept through a lot of the show. I did see the party. Anything that Teresa does that involves spending money makes me cringe. Are you serious? Breakdancers? Okay. God help us all. The party was ridiculous and over the top. She is broke, we all know it so she looks completely fake on the show now.

    I also saw Albie…anything is possible. He can get through law school if he is determined to do it. Other than that…this show still sucks. Get some women that actually have a LIFE on this show that does not consist of the Brownstone, bad credit, hating Danielle, the ham game and any of this other bornign stuff. I know NJ has more to offer than this!

    • kats2 says:

      I too thought she sounded fine, it was a little creepy but voice was much better then the other HW’s

      • dumberries says:

        HD, kats,
        someone posted the clip earlier and I agree that Danielle sounded good -I liked the lyrics alright too. No novelty disco beat and auto-tune to cover for a weak voice. If only she hadn’t been looking to create controversy with the weird “is she lesbian or not?” angle (and who really cares anyway?); she could have earned more props for a solid performance. Next week on WWHL, Ramona Singer debuts her new single “Shutttta Down”.

        • MBdea says:

          Hi. Just joining the party.

          ITA…I thought Danielle’s singing was good –at least when compared to the previous HW/singers.

          Although I don’t care either way about anyone’s sexual preference, it did annoy me that Danielle is pawing at the other singer/song writer, sitting on her lap (practically), and basically undressing her with her creepy over-stretched eyes (Danielle reminds me more and more of Grandma Wrinkles but I digress)…then is coyly oblique about answering Andy’s question regarding their relationship. Seriously, no one forced her to put on that display just so she can pretend to deny it. IOW, don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

          • Laura says:

            No no no! Not Grandma Wrinkles….

            Janice…from the Muppets!




  19. Olivia says:

    Danielle admitting that she will reveal the real reason why Dina left the show is as convincing as believing that Theresa actually “wrote” a cookbook.

    As for Albie, I think he got caught up in the whole “reality tv” venture and probably was convinced his good looks were going to capitulate into “fame”. Studies went out the window and now we have been advised of his “learning disabilities”. If memory serves, Albie appears in many, many episodes which must take time away from school.

    Methinks Albie figures he is on the entertainment road to success. As what remains to be seen. Probably a show like Dr. Phil where he can dispense advice like he threw out there to Trashley and his friend Vito.

    I just think Albie is liking himself on t.v.

    • Noelle says:

      ITA Olivia, thanks for reading my thoughts!

      BYW, I hear both Albie and his brother (the one who looks like Dina’s hubby) are to appear on Patti S. show-Millionare Bachelor…now set it NY!?!

      Bit by the reality-faux-lebritity bug by chance!!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      LOL I didn’t even know he was going to school – which should have been his priority. IF you don’t apply yourself, regardless of the degree you are trying to earn then you will flunk out, quit or be asked to leave. A 1.9 gpa won’t get you any degree! Maybe he can get a job as a whinny little ham thrower – as long as it is on TV!

      • Noelle says:

        LMAO!! 😀

        Who does that? I’ve read @reailytea that Albie and (hmmm…brother that looks EXACTLY like Dina’s husband, YUCK) will be featured on “Millionare Matchmaker” (Pray tell WHY??)

        Lynn, Have you heard any of this? Interesting fodder……

    • emt2 says:

      Do you really believe that Dina left because of Danielle? Really? Don’t you think it has more to do with her non-storyline now that her daughter isn’t on the show and her husband refuses to film with her because they don’t live together and he lives with his girlfriend?

      Dina is boring and has a sad life. She is always alone, sipping tea and talking to her creepy cats and talking about praying.

      You should watch her with Tommy on My Big Fat Fabulous Wedding. He was forced to marry her by his brother and Caroline and he cheated on her numerous times and laughed in her face and she married him because he is rich. Really, this will show you the real “Dina” before she decided to start Project Ladybug so that people would stop calling her a gold digger.


      Also, if she left because of Danielle, why is still talking about Danielle? I hope Danielle spills EVERYTHING!

  20. iceNfire says:

    HD – I left a True Blood comment & info for you on my blog. Just click my name.

    • HD says:

      Thank you so much, IceNFire! I love that show and I got everyone in my house watching it, even my husband and that says a lot. 🙂 I added her page to my favorites and I will be purchasing her books! Thank you so much.

  21. Smompy says:

    I’ve sworn off the RHoNJ, but after Antiques Roadshow I couldn’t find anything good on televion last night, so I broke down and watched some of it. Although Albie’s learning disability scene felt set-up, I also teared up a little. Then again, I’m a big mush! And I’m not ready to say he shouldn’t be a lawyer, because I don’t know exactly what his disability is and how it manifests itself. Maybe he’d do better with some sort of specialzed tutor?

    I also saw the part where Danielle talked about getting her foobs fixed so that she can finally be deformity free and feel sexy in a bathing suit again, and whatnot. Wasn’t she strutting around like a hoo-uh in a bikini on this shows very first episode? I never would have guessed she was so insecure about her body back then.

    Elvira didn’t leave a good impression on me during either of her appearances, but I’d still rather see five Elviras than one Teresa or Danielle. Jacqueline’s whiny daughter Ashley (or as Richard Lawson calls her “Hat”) still annoys the hell out of me. Then again, so does her mother. Well, usually.

    Ehhh, I guess I’m ready for the Housewives of D.C. I really would have preferred the Real Housewives of Chicago because I find a lot of chicks from Chicago to possess a very entertaining combination of sweet, midwestern girl-next-door-ism and don’t-F-with-me pittbull-ism. Unfortunately Andy never listens to my ideas so D.C, it is. Ass!

  22. Waslurking says:

    So those of you that didn’t watch NJ, what did you watch?
    I watched the final episodes of Saving Grace. Was my fav
    show ever……..not happy with how it ended but saw it coming.

    • Squirrels says:

      I watched my DVR finale of The Tudors. After which, I watched the inside of my eyelids.

    • OkieFanDeLurking says:

      WasLurking: After watching NJ last night, I also watched final eps of Saving Grace and I feel traumatized. WTF was all of that? Mexico was waaaay toooo loooong, wandering in a white dress … then back to OKC and kablooey? Then a quick camera pan of show regulars saluting a closed body bag, some people we’ve never seen before and Ham throws the ring? Seriously? How did they even know she was there? How were there even remains left after a huge explosion like that? Didn’t she know she couldn’t kill Evil – she just tried to shoot the guy and it didn’t work for crying out loud. Sigh. It was a very disappointing end to a lovely show.

      • Waslurking says:

        OkieFanDelurking: Grace knew she couldn’t kill evil but she
        could control that time and space of evil…. empty warehouse..ect.
        Better her going out instead of it traveling on to a bigger venue and lots of people dieing.
        That is what I got out of it.
        I agree with all else you said……. very disappointing and

  23. Shelli (lotusflowah) says:

    Love the blog, Lynn. WWHL was the perfect opportunity to expound upon events we saw and have questions on or give us a peak behind the scenes. TOTALLY WASTED now by being campy, creepy and not even a little craptastic. Andy can deliver better than this. I hope he gets the msg and goes back to what was working.

    • I agree about WWHL. Lose the 13 yo kid! Nobody thinks that it is appropriate for him to be watching the housewife shows, let alone calling in to the show so late at night! Where is his mom?

      WWHL is getting really boring. Andy is supposed to pick the mazel and the jackhole. C’mon Andy! That, and we want the hard questions answered. We could care less about the fluff. WWHL isn’t supposed to be just a vehicle you use to drink it up and joke around.

  24. Another good blog Lynn even though it was about NJ. LOL! I empathized with both Caroline and Albie as I have a very mild learning disorder and had a speech impediment when I was younger. I got therapy in 2nd grade for the speech impediment, but the learning disorder I was able to hide though it does slow me down sometimes. That was because my dad told me there was something wrong with me when I handed him the notice that I’d be attending speech classes. I know he didn’t mean to, but that haunted me for years. No way was I going to mention that I had some trouble with reading. I’ve got a much thicker skin now, so it’s no longer an embarrassment to admit that I tend to read slower. I do have trouble with my eye nowadays, so I don’t read as much as I’d like to.

    You didn’t owe anyone an explanation re the review/comment you left in your mom’s name because Samples called you out. You weren’t trying to hide who you are which is obvious by what you wrote, and you aren’t going around harassing customers on Amazon and writing defamatory reviews that Amazon has to remove. Samples is hiding her identity probably because she doesn’t want someone else to know its her. Trouble is, she does easily out herself as someone mentioned on the previous blog.

    She just can’t run with us big dogs! LOL! Just kidding! 😛

  25. Gingers poo says:

    Alana is saying Samples, Palmer, and Edie all have the same IP address.

    Not a surprise, but I wonder how she knows? Alana, if you are here, can you explain?


  26. Hey lynn great blog as always

    I’m watching “Pretty Little Liars” right now, the new ep, and one of the characters is wearing a feather earring. Way better looking than the art-n-crafts crap that Kelly posted a picture of, but a feather earring non the less. Could it be possible that it’s from Kelly’s line? I kinda doubt it, and if it’s not then does that mean Kelly is copying someone else’s jewelry again?

    Also, I don’t know if it is the association with Kelly that is skewing my opinion, but I just find something disturbing about a huge feather hanging from one ear.
    In the hair – maybe.
    Two small feathers on each ear – maybe.
    But one HUGE one? It’s just weird and distracting.

    • HD says:

      A girl at my job wore a feather necklace last week which looked very nice. I have also been seeing feather earrings around and I thought I wanted a pair…that was before Crazy Kelly debuted her line and I thought, forget it. Anything mildly associated with that nut I don’t want to think about owning. (Of course I wouldn’t have bought her pair but the thought of wearing something similiar to what she is selling made me cringe.)

  27. brokeinnj says:

    The NJ girls…the show started with Caroline, Teresa and Jackie at dinner. What was the topic on conversation? Of course, Danielle…

    I really cant stand to watch Caroline…she trys to act tough, but why does she cry all the time? Ashley…typical 18 year old smartass with an attitude. Ashley irks me more than Danielle. I thought she did really well on WWHL last nite. I was impressed with her voice, and actually liked the song. As far as the lesbian thing…who cares???

    Watching Teresa throw a expensive party when we know she in broke was a joke. What crossed my mind, did she stiff them too? Im beginning to like Danielle more and more…the rest of them leave a bad taste in my mouth.

    • iceNfire says:

      I thought Andy was openly hostile towards Danielle, he didn’t give her one twitter, email, or phone call from a fan of hers and I’m sure she must have at least one. Then he allows that little kid to insult her by not saying hello to her or even asking a question. So why did Andy even bother taking the kid’s call?
      Extremely rude Andy!

      • emt2 says:

        That is exactly what I said. Andy was so rude to Danielle and there are a lot of people who do like Danielle. No wonder she looked uncomfortable. And that 13 year-old kid is disturbing. It’s not cute, Andy. It’s creepy.

    • Noelle says:

      Ashley is your “typical” spoiled rotten brat, thank goodness, that I’ve never had the pleasure to meet in person!

      Amen to the small thimgs in life!

    • felony stupid says:

      Guess that’s why she lobbying so hard for the HWs gig…she needs the cash.

    • Quincy IL says:

      My son in law’s family rent homes for one week at the Jersey Shore in Aug. It’s expensive. Elvira probably rents like Luann did with the town house. Jill made fun of Alex for renting, but she will ignore the actions of “her circle of friends.”

  28. chismosa says:

    just some questions if anyone out there feels like answering-
    a) when is there a shot of Jill rubbing Bethenny’s belly in the previews? Are you kidding? For B’s show or what?
    b)Why is Elvira (which is a Spanish name and not that common), who’s husband’s name is James (Christian name)- hosting JCC events at her home? Is she Jewish? This is odd to me. Her last name does not sound Jewish. Maybe she is, but it is odd she is so connected to the JCC if indeed she is not.

    and good call on noticing how UNDER-decorated Teresa’s house is (especially for someone with her tastes). Seriously if she gets away with all this abuse of her finances, or lackthereof, i will be super pissed.

    I agree with everyone on Danielle’s physical look last night but i think Andy was super obnoxious – if that’s even possible- and her song was NOT bad when compared to other housewives.
    I cannot stand Caroline and her thug ways so i hope Danielle does expose some dirty stuff about that family. Well, the VH1 show My Big Fat Fabulous Wedding did expose a lot about that family to begin with.
    I will have to be notified by you all when the Manzo kids are on disgusting- matchmaker- jewish- jersey girl’s show. Albie is adorable. But, make some good decisions on your life. I doubt Patty Strangleher will be that tough with him or Chris. Really, she will treat them with kid gloves. I can’t stand that woman. I can see how she is friends with JZ.

    love you Lynn, GREAT blogs !!!!
    i hate jill zarin, infinity.

  29. boston02127 says:

    I think that NJ show is ninety percent staged. It seems that any gossip that Bravo fans talk about that the NJ wives don’t like or don’t agree there is always a twist in the up coming show to prove watchers wrong. For example weeks ago Teresa and Joe were going bankrupt & losing their home. Weeks later they are holding an elaborate house warming party. The show is too transparent.

    • TLM says:

      Each series completes filming about six months before it actually airs. The bankruptcy story in the news was very recent and happened long after the housewarming party.

      • emt2 says:

        No, the bankruptcy happened in October, around the same time as the housewarming party. It was picked up by some media outlets in the fall but it really became visible when the season started airing. Even last season, there were articles about the Guidices being in debt and owing their fertility company, etc.

  30. boston02127 says:

    Great blog Lynn. I smiled while reading it because I was thinking much of the same.
    Also, I imagine these woman are on their best behavior for TV. Image how they are when the cameras aren’t rolling.

  31. CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

    I tried to watch NJ simply because there were so many posts about it. Couldn’t watch more than a few minutes.

    Boston, you have a point about editing, though – I wonder if NY, seeing the negative response to Jill in the first few episodes, edited the rest of the season to make her look even worse. (Surely she wasn’t evil incarnate EVERY time they filmed her??)

    I have never seen a “lost footage” episode – do you think they will show us anything more of the VI trip?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Lost footage will likely be bloopers, keeping it light! Considering how much of the season was shot at the St John location there will have to be some of that (like Alex and Sonja transporting lobsters from the beach) but IMO we won’t be treated to the ladies reactions/feelings as they relate to Kelly’s breakdown.

  32. kellyhannah says:
  33. Wendy says:

    Great post Lynn. I agree with you. I’m so sick of watching Teresa spend money that she doesn’t have. It’s insulting to those of us who work hard and live within our means. I’m done watching these women. Well except for an episode where Teresa gets evicted from her tacky mansion. Now that would be good tv!

  34. Quincy IL says:

    The women have changed since 2008 and the Hamptons. Luann lost her breasts and a great figure along with a Count. I hate those divorce diets. They ruin your happiness and your figure.

    Ramona had a muffin top and thighs that she doesn’t have in the VI.

    Bethenny got really thin for PETA. She had more body fat in year one.

    Jill …. well… she was fat in 2008. She had some removed surgically and didn’t eat for that fashion show. She thinks there is sugar in diet soda. Now, she’s floundering like a flounder. She’s polishing off plates of hashbrowns and putting the photos on the net.
    Jill actually looked more pregnant in that tight pink thing at the end of the season than Bethenny who was actually pregnant. I didn’t look at the photos of Jill and Kelly from yesterday because I didn’t want to look at a photo of Jill or Kelly. Let’s hope Bobby wants to enjoy restaurants in the Hamptons all summer long and he drags his wife to the food lines with him.

  35. Olivia says:

    Looks like Bravo has done it again. They have reached out and found yet another obnoxious character to add to their already swollen list of obnoxious characters if this is to be believed.


    • TLM says:


    • Earring Girl says:

      I don’t get these fame ho-bags – when you put your business out there in the public trying to be famous – your name gets googled and if you don’t have your business in order you will get investigated and next thing you are paying the local or federal goverment back taxes ($300,000.00) or you are claiming bankruptcy ($11M) – just to be a faux “star”!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I thought Andy shot that rumor down yesterday?
      IMO it won’t matter who they bring onto RHONJ – Manzo’s only like Manzo related peeps (guess Teresa is grandfathered into that crew). Both Kims are disasters for different reasons. Ashley should go to jail and Danielle should just go.

  36. Jenni says:

    I was busy watching “Last Comic Standing” (love that show) instead of RHoNJ on Monday, but I did look at the clip of Danielle’s song on WWHL for which someone upthread had posted a link.

    When Andy asked if the two women were an item (having a lesbian relationship), the songwriter SHAKES HER HEAD NO, just before Danielle gives HER answer.

    • TLM says:

      Who cares if Danielle is having an affair with the entire Olympic curling team, or another woman, or the whole crew at a Wendy’s in Clifton, NJ? Does anyone care?

      • Olivia says:

        No, but I do hope they all have the proper shots before engaging.

        Just when you think it is not possible for Danielle to debase herself any further she manages to once again “surprise” us all with her gifts for gutter trolling. Good times!

      • desertgal66 says:

        There’s curling in the Olympics now? I’ll bet they have to get the riot police in to monitor the crowd for that event…


      • emt2 says:

        I don’t care who Danielle is having sex with, at all. And it doesn’t make her better or worse than any other woman on the show.

        I am more interested in knowing who Joe and Tommy (Dina’s absent husband) are having sex with besides their wives because you know they are having affairs.

    • Jenni says:

      Someone woke up in a bad mode? 😉

      I commented on it because it seems to have been a big topic on conversation last night, and I did not see anyone bringing up the point that the songwriter seemed to deny that they were in a relationship.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Yes she did try to clarify that there was no relationship going on but with Danielle on her lap it was difficult to catch. I think D was playing it up to get a gay following, since she is a gay advocate?!?

  37. Jenni says:

    LOL, On that other blog site, (she who shall not be named) there is now a 5th name which has the same quilt as the other four, and that name is calling Lynn a hypocrite for using a “fake name”. LOL, LOL, LOL

    • desertgal66 says:

      Oh, “it” is a moron. “She’s” harassing Lynn on Amazon now, too.

      The only reason I brought the issue up on the previous blog was, as I said, to give Lynn the chance to set the record straight. Now she has, and that’s it. Sorry, Lynn, I wasn’t attempting to stir up trouble for you. You certainly don’t owe anyone an explanation, but you did deserve to be afforded the opportunity to offer one.

      • Free Ginger (formerly known as wolverinedg) says:

        The use of fake names on the Net isn’t a “scandal.” It’s only when you use sockpuppets to prop up your own arguments or write reviews of your own book while claiming to be someone else that it’s a problem.

    • Jenni says:

      O-key-dok-ee, I seem to be rubbing folks the wrong way this morning. NP, I’ll keep my mouth shut for a while…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      sounds like Kelly! They are competing with themselves??

    • RileyKitty says:

      I took a look over there & find it hilarious that one person just keeps changing their display name (apparently not realizing when you change names, your picture or “quilt” doesn’t change) to make it appear that several people agree with them. Since I know they all lurk here I just want to say: Hey dumb asses, you aren’t fooling anyone. Calling someone a hypocrite, claiming they are using fake names on the net (which is ironic in & of itself since we ALL have usernames) while posting under several different names is beyond being a hypocrite, it is CREEPY (borrowing from Kelly, the poster girl for CRAZY)

  38. emt2 says:

    Danielle has a great voice, imo and I don’t care who she is sleeping with or not sleeping with.

    The series is so boring. No one on the Bravo site mentioned the irony of Teresa throwing a lavish housewarming party even though she declared bankruptcy around that time. I’m sick of people saying that the bad economy is the reason. The reason is that they spend money they don’t have on stupid shit like hair bows and clothes. She spends 1,000 every other day on dumb shit for her kids.

    She is reckless and obnoxious. Her housewarming party was trash.

    The Manzos are hypocrites. Fake storylines. Albie wants to be a tv star instead of a lawyer. He is lying to his mother to gain sympathy and it worked. Caroline thinks that Danielle is trashy for being a stripper, yet it’s okay for her boys to open up a strip “place,” just as long as it isn’t a strip joint. ??

    And I’m actually starting to like Danielle more and more. Glad she got her breasts done and recorded the song. Everyone talks about what a horrible mother she is but I don’t think any of the women are that great in that department. Dina is teaching her daughter that it’s okay to be in a loveless marriage and not spend anytime with your husband if he has a lot of money. Caroline is teaching her kids that they are always the exception to the rules. Teresa is teaching her kids not to be fiscally responsible and to be vain and materialistic. Jacqueline isn’t teaching Ashley anything. And while I don’t think Danielle should have engaged with Ashley over text or facebook, there is no doubt in my mind that Ashley had been harassing Danielle relentlessly. Ashley has nothing else to do and bashing Danielle is something that brings her a little bit of respect from the Manzos, who last year thought she was a waste of space and spoiled brat.

    I know that I’ll get criticized about this but it’s fine. I’m sick of all of the Danielle bashing because the other ladies are just as bad in other areas. This whole show is a trainwreck and there are no redeemable qualities that I can see.

    Dina left the show because she had no storyline and her marriage is obviously on the rocks. She wants everyone to think it was because of Danielle so that Danielle will get fired from the show but that’s not the reason. Dina is as obsessed with Danielle as Danielle is as obsessed with Dina. Her husband, Tommy, can’t even stand to be with her. When was the last time she spoke about him and spending time with him? Exactly.

    Danielle bringing Danny around was so bad. Why, Danielle? But, is Tommy really any worse than the Mafia ties to the Manzo family. Tiny Manzo was hog-tied, shot execution style and was found nude in the trunk of a parked car. That’s not a regular murder, okay. I don’t care how much Caroline tries to spin it.

    But, I still can’t get behind Danielle because she ruined the fundraiser for the little girl with cancer with her narcissistic behavior. I can overlook a lot of other things she does, but not that. Or how she had ‘backup’ to meet Dina for a drink. That was just crazy. Okay, maybe I can’t get behind Danielle anymore but I can’t get behind the other ladies either.

    I think I’ll just stop watching and commenting because I feel myself losing brain cells every time I think about that show. It’s pure trash. And it’s not even fun trashy tv, just trash.

    They all get rewarded for bad behavior. And they all lie. Badly, I might add.

    The Real Housewives brand has run its course. It’s all scripted and fake. And I can’t believe that the Salahis, who crashed the White House Party, will be featured on the show. A very powerful woman lost her job because of that and yet, this couple is being rewarded by Bravo? That is bullshit.

    Welcome to this strange time we live in when reality tv stars rule the world. It’s so bizarre. No wonder Andy always appears to be drunk on WWHL.

    • Olivia says:

      But I think it is reasonable to keep in mind that no one is “forcing” any of these people to appear on these shows. IMHO, Danielle does not deserve to be cut any slack when you place her two young girls into the equation. What she does to gain attention must have some serious consequences on these two kids who must deal with the aftermath of each sleazy episode featuring their mother.

      Pole dancing and displaying her crotch; filmed having breast surgery; stalking the Manzo’s as they sit in the backseat pleading with her to stop; bragging about having phone sex; propositioning a date for sex in the bathroom; inviting convicted felons into her home she shares with 2 young girls; modeling sexual lingerie for her “girlfriends” in front of cameras; texting sexual pictures of herself to her former boyfriend she took to court; appearing in a sex tape being pushed by Hustler magazine; making a total fool out of herself at the Brownstone fundraiser; bringing that book to a dinner party that ended up with a table being upended and having her two children present to hear all the nastiness that was being thrown out there by the other women; writing a book that has been disparaged as being full of lies about her background. This is not a woman who is in the business of protecting her children at all costs.

      These two kids must face their peers. Danielle has made the decision to market herself as a “victim” as she performs on t.v. without regard to these kids feelings and self esteem. She is a disgusting human being and a total failure as a mother in that respect. While the others may have their flaws by way of parenting, they at least display their affection towards their own children and wish to protect them in quite the opposite way.

      Theresa may be instilling the wrong values to her kids by overspending and spoiling at least we can safely assume she loves them. The same with Dina who made the decision to leave thus sparing her kid some of the backlash. And Jacqueline is just plain dumb but I think she worries about Trashley.

      Danielle is a disgrace under any circumstances as her children seem to be the least of her concerns. This is all about her and she will do whatever it takes to place herself front and center.

      • emt2 says:

        I understand how strongly you feel about Danielle but I disagree.

        I think that she has made bad choices but she is not a disgusting human being and a total failure as a mother. She loves her children the best way that she knows how and it’s not perfect but it’s not evil either. She is a work in progress but I don’t think she is this evil person. Misguided-yes, evil-no. I don’t buy it.

        So what if she likes to have sex with a man who is legal? Who cares? People loved it when Samantha on Sex and the City was wild about her sex life. I know that Samantha is a character on a fictional show but I really don’t have a problem with Danielle and her sex life. I could care less and everyone else should care less, as well. Besides, I would say that Teresa talks about her sex life more than Danielle does.

        So what if she was pole dancing? The ladies in Atlanta all participated in a pole dancing class together. So what?

        So what if she had breast surgery? Teresa, Dina, and Jacqueline had surgery, all the women on the OC had breast surgery, Bethenny and Jill had breast surgery. Kim and Nene had surgery. SO WHAT? That makes her a whore? No, sorry. She had a problem that needed to be fixed and she got it fixed and she got it done for free (just like all the other women who have had surgery on tv–Teresa, Lynn, Alexis’s mother, etc.).

        You think it’s okay for Teresa to talk about her swollen “chuckie” and mention in every episode that she and Joe have sex, but Danielle can’t talk about phone sex?

        And it’s okay for Teresa to flip a table and curse in front of her children, but it’s not okay for Danielle to bring out the book that they have all been gossiping about? Teresa had just been talking about how Joe was pressuring her for sex after her surgery when Danielle brought out the book. Her kids were present at time. No concern about the kids hearing the sex talk at that point in time, right?

        All of the adults were wrong in that situation, not just Danielle.

        Look, I get why people don’t like Danielle but she is not the worst woman in the world. She gets judged unfairly for things that everyone else has done. If you want to criticize her for allowing her kids to be present in the car when she wanted to drive by the Brownstone (which she didn’t do, by the way), that’s fine but judging her on actions that everyone else has done is ridiculous that includes Her surgery, her song, her pole dance, her sex life.

        Danielle would feel much better about herself if she was remarried. That would satisfy her need for attention, imo.

        Anyway, I think that we will just have to agree to disagree. All of those women are gross and Danielle isn’t devil. It’s so strange how everyone just dumps on Danielle and thinks that her actions are unique.

        Teresa made fun of Danielle for being a gold digger and being so broke when she is the one was even more broke than Danielle and her best friend Dina is the epitome of a gold digger. So stop the bullshit. I mean, Kim is a self-proclaimed gold digger and mistress yet, Danielle is the evil one?

        Like I said, Danielle is not the devil and no one will convince me otherwise. She loves her daughters the best way she knows how and I hope she is getting help because she has issues and makes bad choices but she is not unique. And she is not the garbage that you claim her to be.

        • Capiche says:

          Well emt2! When you put it like that???!! LOL! I agree though. There is no redeeming quality to any of the NJ housewives and for a good number of the wives on the other shows but what gets me about NJ is that clannish, us vs. her dynamic that is a little frightening. Is this what happens in small towns? Glad I don’t live in one! And they ARE so judgmental about Danielle and then – as you outlined- are so full of shit themselves. Those who are without sin…

          As to the children…I AM SO TIRED of people wondering about the children, the children… I think Danielle’s kids are just fine and will probably be more successful than the other kids on that show. And yes, it’s because they had to grow up with a crazy woman. Albie grew up in frickin father-knows-best household and he’s still floundering out there, flunking at law school and whatnot. Don’t get me started on the Ashley person and Teresa’s kids…I don’t know! So let’s all realize that these children on the show who we feel so sorry for are doing just well, thank you very much. I mean, I’ve even heard people talking about calling the authorities for Danielle’s kids. Even Jacqueline is worried about them! Give me a break. Jacqueline, get a handle on your own household and people, let’s realize that there are children in terrible, physically abusive households that really need the authorities. Not two well-mannered girls on reality tv show, sad eyes or not!

          • Squirrels says:

            Considering Bethenny turned out as ok as one can considering the circumstances of her home life, I hope Danielle’s girls come out ok. If Christine (?) can keep that modeling contract or escape to college, she has a good chance of landing on her feet. Hope so anyway. That young lady is gorgeous, and seems very calm and tender toward her sister. Her resemblance to Christy Brinkley is uncanny.

          • emt2 says:

            I get really worked up when it comes to hypocrisy and this clan-like behavior against Danielle. It’s just unfair and it annoys me that people say things that aren’t true or they purposefully treat her poorly because they think she is trash. I didn’t like Andy’s open hostility towards her, at all. She is no worse than any one of the other women on that show.

            All of this Danielle hate is to deflect attention away from their own problems.

            Why does Teresa hate Danielle so much again? I never really understood what that was about.

            And I agree that Danielle kids will be fine and Jacqueline should worry about her own wayward kid and Dina should worry about her failing son and Teresa should worry about her obnoxious rugrats.

            Dina is actually the one to start the whole “Poor Danielle’s kids” thing last year and she did it to deflect attention away from her part in the whole book thing.

            Dina is so phony, it’s amazing that people think she is truthful because she is pretty.

      • emt2 says:

        If Danielle is a narcissist, then she is in good company with Jill and the rest of the Housewives. Jill puts herself front and center in all situations, especially those that have to do with her daughter.

        Also, didn’t Jill say that you never know when a blow job could change your life, so don’t ever turn one down nm? And doesn’t she tell Bobby that if he buys her jewelry, she’ll make him happy later?

        All the women are narcissists. Even our precious Bethenny is a narcissist. Some more than others but they are all narcissists.

        Anyway, I’m sick of Danielle taking hits for things that other women on the show do.

        • Squirrels says:

          Yep, Jill said that to Bawby. But looks like she only got the watch. RATZZZ.

          Better luck next time Jill.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Danielle should take the hits! She is not part of the Manzo crew and they clearly don’t want to be friends with her. SO she whines, acts inappropriately, threatens teenagers, talks tough and creates this fake vendetta/I need a body guard crap. Week after week – it doesn’t change. SO she takes the hits she deserves cause she sure isn’t bringing anything else to this party.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Danielle’s very hung up on her sexuality and being desireable. Her self worth has always been based on others finding her attractive enough to pay her way in life. (She latched on to Kim G like a leech – the cancer benefit, the birthday party, etc.) Given her age, the wear and tear and bad surgeries – she knows her shelf life is limited and her frantic behavior “changing and renewing” is her sad attempt to sell herself to yet another money train. While I don’t hate her for the same reasons I hate Jill Zarin – Danielle isn’t a nice person.

    • Laurie in Detroit says:

      Well said! Agree with everything you’ve written. Here’s something I noticed from the last episode… When Danielle gets home from the hospital, she says (to the cameras) “my girls missed me”. That’s narcissism…. otherwise normal mothers would say “I’m glad to be home, I missed my girls.” Every single thing about Danielle is ABOUT Danielle. She’s a loser, but so are all the others for all the reasons you outlined.

      • Olivia says:

        Danielle is exactly what Caroline said she was: garbage. Her latest attempt to demean herself even more was in subtly “suggesting” that she is now involved with lesbian singer/composer Lori Michaels.

        What this has done is to give her even more coverage in the media again regardless of the cost to the psyche’s of her daughters.

        Danielle is asserting that she has “changed” from her past experiences. IMHO she has gotten worse since she now has the opportunity to act this out on national t.v. None of her behavior has anything to do with the Manzo’s. She would have stripped and performed even without the revelations in that first book. This is who she is.

        • Capiche says:

          So you are against women who strip? That’s all fine and well but understand that not everyone has the same moral code as you and Mama Caroline. I know someone who stripped, danced (and what-else) her way thru medical school. To me, the least of Danielle’s problem is that she is a stripper or she plays coy with being a lesbian. She is just certifiable. And crazy people do crazy things! My problem is with the Manzos acting holier-than-thou and dictating where she can go, who she can speak with…And they’re the ones with the real-life mafia connection background. It just reeks of small-town hypocrisy. That’s all!

          • emt2 says:

            Great post. I agree. Manzos have a clan mentality and it is always us vs. them.

            I think that Danielle should leave New Jersey when it is an appropriate time/break in the girls’ education. She isn’t small town, she is big city and I think she would do much better in a bigger city.

        • emt2 says:

          There is too much reckless hate for Danielle. I would be more inclined to understand what you are saying if you weren’t so hypocritically selective about behaviors you deplore.

          Is it fundamentally wrong to have been a stripper or to take a pole dancing class or to run a strip joint?

          I mean, saying that she would have stripped and performed even without the revelations in that first book is just spiteful. You have NO idea what she would have done. Please talk about her behavior on the show not the what you imagine she might have done.

          And who cares if she was flirting with the producer? Didn’t Kim become a lesbian for a hot second? We all know that it’s just for show/shock value and it’s another way to get attention and to get people talking. Did you see the Madonna/Britney/Christina kiss? I mean, really.

          Danielle isn’t garbage. Misguided, yes, garbage, no.

          All of the emphasis on Danielle is to deflect attention away from the problems going on in the lives of the other ladies. More attention should be paid to their own households than to Danielle’s. Ashley is on her way to repeating all the mistakes her mother made at her age. Dina is having marriage problems and dealing with an absentee and cheating husband. Teresa is dealing with bankruptcy. Caroline’s son is failing out of law school. They should focus on their own lives instead of constantly talking about Danielle.

          Repeating that she is garbage doesn’t make it true. Sorry. And making up imaginary scenarios about Danielle doesn’t make her garbage, either.

          • MAMAZ says:

            Danielle is not garbage, she is a human being. But calling her misguided is a stretch. She is selfish. There is nothing wrong with an adult woman having consensual sex with another adult. But putting it on TV when you have children is wrong. Just like it is for Theresa. Hopefully by the time Theresa’s kids and their friends are old enough to be disgusted by all T’s chuckie talk nobody will even remember. But Danielle’s children have to face that music now. And their mom isn’t talking about a sex life with their father. One was a stranger who she had phone sex with. And then he stood her up. How humilitating. One was a slimeball she asked to go into a public bathroom with during dinner. Who later tried to sell a sex tape of her. That may or may not have been from videos she sent him. Before a second sex tape was “leaked.”
            The Manzo’s and company are seriously flawed. Like all of us. Hypocrits, sure. Like all of us. You say to only comment on what goes on in the show. Dina’s marraige has never been an issue on the show. The truth is we have no idea what state her marriage is in. But you call it loveless and say it’s a bad example for her child. Offer proof cited on the show.
            I don’t like the NJ houswives. Any of them. But bring Danny P into her circle was not misguided, it was an attempt to intimidate others. She said this on the show. And she appeared to delight in the drama it created at the Brownstone. Evil? Maybe not. Bad, yes.
            And regardless of how Tiny Manzo was killed or what organized crime conections he had what does that have to do with Albert and Caroline and their family? Are you suggesting that the children of criminals are criminals themselves? Then you must think Danielle’s girls are destined to become stripper, escort, kidnappers.
            You are right that imaginary scenerios about Danielle don’t make her garbage. Just like imaginary scenerios about Dina’s marraige doesn’t make it on the rocks. And imaginary mob ties don’t make the Manzo’s connected.

            • emt2 says:

              I think that Danielle overshares with her children and it’s wrong. I have an issue with the hypocrisy of Teresa’s constant sex talk being okay and not Danielle’s. No one had admonished Teresa for talking about sex in front of her kids because they think it’s cute. I get the difference between talking about sex with a husband instead of a date but I still think it’s hypocritical.

              2. Olivia said that she thought that Danielle would have still been stripping if the first book hadn’t been revealed. And I disagreed because who knows what she would have done and that kind of blanket hatred for Danielle is what bothers me.

              I’m not entirely sure what happens in Dina’s marriage but I did see the reality tv show when she got married to him and it wasn’t pretty. I do know that she says she only has breakfast with him a few times a week and they have Thursday night as date night. I do know that she says that she has been married for many years but has probably only spent the equivalent of a few months worth of hours with him. Meaning that she rarely ever sees him. Other than that, there is no mention of him at all.

              Based on her sad demeanor and things that she has said and Danielle has alluded to and what I’ve read and seen on that wedding show, Tommy was forced to marry Dina and gives her money so that she will leave him alone with his mistress.

              Maybe I’m wrong about her marriage but that is a much more informed conjecture than what Olivia said about predicting what Danielle may or may not have done.

              But I see your point.

              Danielle should not be hanging out with that Danny character. I said that earlier. That’s wrong, not misguided, but wrong. But, wasn’t it Caroline that said if you hang out with garbage you start to stink? Isn’t Bernard Kerkik her best friend? Yeah, garbage hanging out with garbage. All of the women on this show stink but the Manzos and Teresa seem to think that they don’t but everyone else does. They have been accused of having mafia connections and Caroline doesn’t want anyone to ever mention what happened to her father-in-law however, it’s okay to talk about in great detail Danielle’s past history with the Columbian drug-lord cartel?

              Caroline said that a long time ago, maybe you shoplifted but a long time ago, you don’t kidnap a kid and hold him for ransom. The same can be said about Tiny’s death. Normal people are not tortured and killed the way Tiny was killed. There were a lot of articles about his ties to the mob. True or untrue, doesn’t really matter. It’s the hypocrisy that I dislike with Caroline the most.

              I don’t like the hypocrisy and the clan-like behavior leveled against Danielle. It’s unfair.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The NJ ladies can’t carry their show – so we have to see husbands, boyfriends, thugs and children! The story lines are boring and they either have to get rid of Danielle or find someone she can shoot scenes with besides her kids!

  39. Zipit Zarin! says:

    How freaky is this? Kelly’s whole schtick has been that she has been bullied, right? Jill is the biggest bully we’ve witnessed on HWs…overtly and covertly. Kelly’s best friend (she thinks) is that bully.

    Bethenny’s upbringing was so bad she could make a case for being a real bully but she’s not. She’s got issues that make her have a short fuse but she uses humor to *de*fuse said issues and she’s willing to be in therapy for EVERYONE to witness! I gotta tell ya…I’ve done therapy and it’s the scariest thing ever <–to look at yourself and own your faults. To do it on camera shows what courage she has. OMG! What I've seen is a person with a HUGE heart and in spite of all the trauma, she's got the courage to open herself up to relationships and be hurt again. For Jill to betray Bethenny KNOWING her issues with trust is one of the most evil things I've ever witnessed.

    Jill had and has everything Bethenny didn't have growing up, didn't she? I could be wrong. I don't know what turned her into such a sick, nasty person but there should be a prison for people who commit spiritual crimes…like raping a person's trust.

    Anyway, back to the bullying. It's just SO ironic that Kelly loves the bully/Jill and hates Bethenny/huge hearted.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I agree that Jill is a master manipulator and bully – but Kelly is too stupid to realize that. Jill is treating her like the child she is and she is allowing her to fight her fight (which Kelly likes to do on that oh so middle school level) with the other ladies – name calling, etc at the reunion instead of answering questions… IMO Jill is keeping Kelly close for now, but once she has served her purpose they won’t be best buddies any more.

      • emt2 says:

        Amen. Jill is the biggest bully. Kelly experienced that when Jill threatened their friendship if Kelly continued her truce with Bethenny. Kelly even reprimanded Jill but then she apologized to Jill and said that she didn’t want Jill to be mad at her. Huh???

        Kelly has no friends and that is why she is clinging to Jill. Kelly can still get into some cool parties and she does have one of the most expensive and desired East Hamptons homes. Jill will probably be staying with Kelly this summer. Luann won’t have the space or time to spend with Jill this summer because she has a new boyfriend.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Both Kelly and Ramona had their Hampton houses up for rent for the season. I think Jill’s was sold (but she has a boat). LuAnn’s got too many men running around her house and I bet Silex’s book tour is keeping them away from too. Does Sonja have a house there?

          • MAMAZ says:

            If Bethenny started hanging with Jill again she would drop Kelly so fast her poor befeathered head would spin. More than normal.

  40. Earring Girl says:

    More of the same on Danielle and why does Jill have her twitter being followed on the “Celeb Twitter Feed” in the NY Daily News? What a fame-ho-bag!!! I now understand why B says she does not know who Jill is anymore. I guess I just answered my own question. LOL!!


    • Laurie in Detroit says:

      And yet, Jill’s the one who said (about Bethanny)… “I don’t even know who she is anymore, everything with her is so public!” ?????? Eye-roll.

      • Earring Girl says:

        Jill is such a disgusting person – I read her card in the last episode of Season 2 when she was yelling at B about the “Skinny-Girl signage at that charity event. I was done with Jill Zarin than – so when Season 3 rolled out she was on my list to watch her relationship with B and there it was – the whole “Get a Hobby” / Bawby had cancer / she was not there for me / blah, blah, blah. Jill, please take your own advice and “Just Leave”!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly also has contacts at page 6 – so both Jill and Kelly are constantly feeding the 411 anywhere they can.

  41. Alana's Cat says:

    Lynn, no need to explain your name on Amazon. I thought it was quite clearly outlined in one of the reviews I read there. Some people just like to stir up trouble. And for the record, no fan of Jill has ANY right to complain about what name someone posts under on Amazon because, as we all know, Jill is Queen of the fake Amazon name thing!

  42. RileyKitty says:

    I am probably going to take a hit for this but I think I may be the only person who isn’t at all concerned for any of the kids on any of these shows…

    Danielle is a nut job in my eyes but her kids seem cared for. Does she over share with them? Yes. Her behavior on the show has probably embarassed them in school but whatever, they aren’t being neglected or locked in closets. These girls will probably grow up with trust issues due to Danielle’s it’s us vs the world mentality. But very few people get through childhood totally unscathed. JMO

    • emt2 says:

      I agree, completely. The girls do seem cared for and they aren’t locked in the basement or anything.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Gotta disagree ladies. While they aren’t being locked in the basement they are being set up for a lifetime of problems. It’s true that nobody gets through childhood unscathed but my heart breaks for every child that grows up with this type of instability. I see it every day in my childrens school, in my neighborhood, at work and even among my friends. I have a colleague who grew up in a similar household. Trust issues it putting it mildly. It can be very damaging and cause a deep sense of lonliness, depression and despair.
        Danielle Staub has put her own needs ahead of those of her children. I think that is a kind of neglect. By the way I think Jacquleine did the same thing with Ashley. Looked how that turned out.

        • RileyKitty says:

          @MAMAZ We are going to have to agree to disagree & I can live with that since I respect your viewpoint & posts. 🙂 I grew up in an abusive home & I would have gladly traded it for Danielle’s house of crazy any day of the week.

          • MAMAZ says:

            As always I meant no disrespect to anyone who has suffered physical abuse in the home. Horrible! I’m glad you made it out ok. I am just sooooo tired of parents who put themselves ahead of their children. I think it has created a generation of angry, mistrustful adults who don’t know how to raise their own kids. And the cycle continues. But that could be a whole blog on it’s own.

        • Capiche says:

          A lifetime of problems is guaranteed for every child. I’m sure you’ve had to deal with your fair share and you grew up in a great household. I did too! Let’s not delude ourselves into thinking that Danielle’s kids are going to suffer from some “special” problems that the Manzo’s kids are not.

          Or, to put it another way, Caroline has always put her kids need ahead of her own. Admirable. But now we see that they have to start making decisions and realizing that not everthing is as easy as Mama’s lasagna waiting on the table when they come home. Who’s to say Albie is not depressed from being told that what he always wanted to do may not work out for him? Maybe he has trust issues or maybe he’ll look for a relationship like his parents and never find one. And when Lauren starts her career as a make-up artist and perhaps her own family, she’ll begin to face problems on her own too. Yes, she has a family to lean back on…but problems are a part of life. It’s how you handle them that reveals the strength or lack thereof within. I don’t see Danielle’s daughters having any “bigger” or “worse” problems than the average person. And there are alot of troubled kids that grow up to be fine and decent adults.
          Quite frankly, the only person I see having any major problems is Ashley. And that’s because she’s stupid. And there’s very little that you can do about that at this stage of the game!

          • MAMAZ says:

            I’m not suggesting they won’t be fine decent adults! Please don’t think that. And problems are of course a part of life. I just think parents are supposed to create a safe, stable environment for their children. And that doesn’t include introducing them to a string of boyfriends/girlfriends. Once you have kids their needs should come first. Even if that means you stay single for a while. Or date casually without your children being involved. I know so many men and women who rush from one partner to the next without care for what it does to their children. My sister in law moved her kids all over the country for a variety of men. My neighbor moved a new man in 2 months after the dad moved out. He was the first of many. It has serious repercussions for these children. That may be one of Ashley Holmes problems.
            And honestly I think Danielles kids WILL have bigger problems. I hope they are able to overcome them. Bethenny is very open about her upbringing. Her mothers multiple marraiges, her father’s resentment towards her. She is just as open about the pain it caused her. I’d love to hear what she thinks of these women( I think Jac and Theresa are every bit as bad as Danielle) involving their kids on these shows. It will be interesting to see how much she includes her child.

            • Capiche says:

              Mamaz, I agree that for all that is good and holy one should not put their children on these shows. Reality shows destroy lives. It’s been proven over and over. But…i think your approach is too idealistic for the times we live in. Danielle is a single woman. She has a 16-year marriage behind her. It’s really laughable that we expect Danielle to stay celibate! She’s already admitted she’s addicted to sex. I do agree that she should keep her sex life and her kids separate, but not everyone has the same capacity for reason and foresight as you and I do. And maybe I’m too jaded, but there are millions of kids out there with mothers like Danielle. And the majority of them grow up to be just fine. Granted, they don’t have cameras in their face, but I have yet to see why you, and others, think D’s kids are going to have “bigger” problems! How so? What will these problems be?

    • Capiche says:

      I’m with you too! And I’m reading all these comments about those “poor children.” Poor children, my ass. Their father is some multi-millionaire. And he has to be if he was ordered to pay Danielle 10k a month and they really seem fine. Yes, Danielle is needy and narcisstic and the kids seem mature compared to her, but I think they’re going to be very tough. I wish people would stop saying Danielle should stop doing whatever for the children or they should take the children from her. The children seems well-fed, cared for and loved. They live in a eight-bedroom house. For Danielle, they’re all she has. And they realize it too. There are kids living on the streets with their parents and live in physically abusive homes or with drugged out parents. I’ll spare a thought for them before I do for Danielle’s daugthers. Not too mention that D’s daughters have the good sense not to act like a fool on TV, unlike Jacqueline’s insufferable daughter.

      • HD says:

        Danielle’s childrens’ biggest issue will be that they have grown up too fast. Danielle even said that kind of on WWHL. With her being a single mom sometimes kids do not have the choice of just being kids and that is what I see with her kids. They have not had the chance to just be kids. That is something Danielle will have to contend with as her kids get older. I was a single mother for years and if I could do it all over again, I would have just let my daughter be a kid but often times those type of kids never get the choice.

        • Capiche says:

          I agree. But you know what, you play the hand you’re dealt with, not the one you wish you had. But I think pining over a “lost” childhood is a little bit self-indulgent and very idealistic American (not that there’s anything wrong with that). It’s just very aspirational and not always achievable due to the financial and social circumstances of your parents. My mom always told me “You can’t choose your parents.” And now that I’m older and see some of those kids, now grown, that I thought had greater parents than mine seemingly unable to do much of anything or handle anything, I’m glad I was able to deal with the hand I was dealt. I see that same determination in Danielle’s kids. Not so much in the whiny Ashley.

      • emt2 says:

        I agree. With all of the hatred towards Danielle as a mother, has anyone ever stopped to think about her slimy ex-husband who refuses to take care of his children in a timely fashion? She doesn’t get her child support payments on time and she is constantly hustling and worrying about buying food and keeping her kids in catholic school. The other women do not have that worry. Dina and Jacqueline both know what it was like as single women who had to support themselves and lean on their families for help before they married well.

        Danielle is busy working now and is improving the quality of life for her kids but she is doing it without help from an extended family and without a husband.

        More than anything she wants to be remarried and have a sense of security. I don’t knock that. I do think she needs to work on her issues and spend some quality time with herself and a therapist. But, she comes off as so desperate and needy and irrational because she wants to be in a stable relationship.

        • Sha2000 says:

          There was also a photo of her ex meeting with the Manzo’s…Why? If they hate her so much, why lower yourself to interfere by having dinner w/her ex? It seems to be pretty slimy on all sides in RHONJ!


          • emt2 says:

            I know. I couldn’t believe it!

            Jacqueline and Teresa are like rabid dogs when it comes to Danielle and her sordid past. Why associate with her ex who is even more shady than Danielle? It’s too bizarre.

            • anniieee says:

              That is not the father of the girls…that is the one that wrote the book.

              • emt2 says:

                Yes, her ex boyfriend who was right there with her committing God’s Knows What.

                It’s as bad as Danielle hanging out with Danny.

                Why would they want to get involved with her past boyfriends who are felons?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I thought she was getting child support and he was dragging out the alimony payments? Either way, she should be out working and not cavorting all over Franklin Lakes! She didn’t want to sell the house, which she would have gotten a nice chuck of change for before the housing market tanked. We see her absorbed with herself – her appearance and how she thinks other people perceive her. Her girls are wiser than their years, let’s just hope they are learning what not to be!

  43. WindyCityWondering says:

    I find it very comical what words set these housewives off…..”get a hobby”, “snake”, “garbage” – and the hits just keep coming! If I had a dine for everytime one on my friends (or me) said “get a hobby” or even (gasp) “get a life” to each other – I would be wealthy! And apologies are never really accepted if you keep bringing the same old crap up again and again.

    • RileyKitty says:

      too true, Windy!! & is it really an apology if you ask for it?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Well that’s a good question! Sometimes you don’t realize you have hurt someone’s feeling – so they tell you and you can sincerely apologize for that unintentional hurt. THEN there is the entitled to apology that I just don’t get – if you demand an apology, accept it, then you are not entitled to keep bring the slight/reason up again and again. Example: LuAnn the snake!

  44. I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

    This is a funny article from gather.com about Jill and Kelly’s lunch yesterday. lol


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill is building her army of one to slay Bethenny. LuAnn will not get involved to the extent Jill needs – but seriously…..would you want Kelly watching your back????

  45. Squirrels says:

    Well, the Bravo Jill blog has turned back into a love fest. This is getting ridiculous. All I see throughout the blogs is Bravo trying to bend the outcome of who is invited back to their favor. By that I mean filled with enough controversy to keep the pan on the stove hot. Bravo certainly doesn’t want the fire to be extinguished. Off season publicity is great free advertising.

    Unless and until Bravo does the right thing and gets rid of those who hijacked the show this past season, I’ll not be convinced they care about anything but the bottom line and their own financial windfall.

    But allow me to ask you Bravo, if someone came after your livelihood, you’d fight back, guns blazing. Seems to me, since none of you with a financial stake in this are being affected to the negative, you just don’t give a damn.

    Doesn’t speak well for the network of good ol’ boys. Women and children continue to be exploited, regardless of their signing up for the abuse. Their livelihoods are constantly being challenged by the male powers that be to the point its reminding me of a loveless marriage. Keep the money flowing and I’ll let you degrade me anyway you wish.


  46. JoMo says:

    Jill really should go, but I can see them wanting her to stay if Alex signs on. I hope if they both come back they pay Alex more money and Jill finds out!! As for Kelly. . . .she is just sad. Put us out of our misery and make Kelly go away–we’re begging!!

    Jill’s going to have more time on her hands to spread her hate around next season since her daughter will be going off to college. It might also be entertaining to see Jill’s world crashing down when Luann and Sonja become better friends and Jill is left out in the cold. I think Luann is smart enough to realize being friends with Jill is the kiss of death. If Kelly is gone (hope, hope) and Jill doesn’t have anyone to boss around and do her bidding–it could get ugly for her. Add Bethenny, Alex and Ramona to the mix–next season could be Jill’s worst nightmare!!

    • MAMAZ says:

      I think JZ will come back. And Bravo is depending on her feud with Silex to score ratings. Jill came off as such a megabitch last season she can’t turn back into the mother figure of season 1. Not believable. So her moral dilemma is: leave behind the fame and fortune of a Bravolebritiy to live a life of integrity or continue being the person she didn’t like.
      Guess which one I think she’ll choose?

    • Even with Alex being invited back first and Jill’s fate dependent on Alex’s decision, Jill wouldn’t be able to stop herself from accepting an offer to return for season 4. She apparently doesn’t care about her reputation and what’s eating a little crow compared to being famous? LOL!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Even if Jill isn’t asked back, I’m betting she will pop up in scenes (like morons do behind tv news people on live shots) because she is addicted to the camera. Bravo will have to stop filming at locations like Fashion Week!

  47. I suspect jill knows about the latest harassment by samples and ashly and posting of fake reviews to Alex and Simon’s book . Her latest post says this:

    Jill Zarin Thank you for all the honest reviews on amazon about our book. Sadly people who never read SECRETS had a lot to say. HAH! if you have read it..please post an honest review? XO Jill, Lisa and Gloria
    Yesterday at 4:20pm · Comment · Like

    And here’s a comment left for Jill:

    Gloria Johns Your friends Jen Samples/Edie Stone/Palmer and J. Ashly are harassing people on your behalf again. Just thought you needed to know. People are blaming you for 1) being them or 2) for their behavior as they say they are friends of yours. Your rep has taken such a hit this year. Do you really need more bad publicity?… It says a lot about you if you condone this behavior.

    13 minutes ago · Comment · LikeUnlike · Flag

  48. Hey, sorry if this is a repost.
    But I just got twitter (specifically so I could laugh at Kelly) and someone posted this, I though it was pretty funny:

    RT @Twilighttwitti @kikilet ‘s Free earring collection http://yfrog.com/jm3t5j


  49. Viki55 says:

    A new negative review has been posted for Alex’s book. It seems Jill just can’t let it go.

    • Viki55 says:

      But….just now while I was reading, two of the negative reviews disappeared! Including the one from Edie Stone from yesturday that A.Chandler said was from the same IP as Saunders!

      • Scorpiosue says:

        So not only is Jill narcissistic, but she’s stupid too. Just because you use a pseudonym does not mean that that pseudonym cannot be traced.

        Jill is freakin’ desperate.

      • Viki55 says:

        oh…samples not saunders, keep getting them mixed up.

        • Squirrels says:

          I can’t help but think whoever Samples is, Jill could not possibly be that stupid to let her run her mouth. Whether she knows her or not, Jill could easily contact her. All Samples does is add fuel to the fire and Jill continues to burn. Thanks Samples. Duh.

          Jill owes me $800 for that PR advice. NO CHECKS.

          • I Like Lynn and Alex says:

            Interestingly enough, this morning I tried to post on the other site a message supportive of Lynn and this blog – awaiting moderation. But that’s not the interesting part. I pointed out in my post that the quilty thing stays the same when you are posting from a single email address with different names. Since I posted that, the Edie Stone post is down, but not the other four that had the same quilt….

            • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

              Oops – Forgot to change my name! Quilt is the same, though 🙂

              • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

                My comment is no longer awaiting moderation – but it isn’t showing up, either!

              • felony stupid says:

                yeah…I gave up over there. That happened with me with all 3 comments I tried to post. Ms. G is a hypocrite. Only posting what she wants – which apparently consists of 5 or 6 posts from the same person pretending to be several. haha

  50. WindyCityWondering says:

    I was given a copy of Jill’s book – I read it cover to cover but elected not to review it on Amazon. So here’s my review: “Nothing in the book was a secret and maybe it should have been kept secret. I was offended for all the Jewish parents who are trying to raise their children to be healthy and happy human being. The pursuit of other people’s money to fullfill yourself isn’t the message I would give my children, my relatives, my friends or even total strangers.” Pass on this trash!

    • MAMAZ says:

      It’s also offensive that she somehow thinks only Jewish women teach their children by example, etc. Like the rest of us raise our kids like animals or something. At a time when Anti Semitism and other hate propaganda is on the rise she shouldn’t be encouraging the attitude that somehow Jewish women are different than other women. Thank God I know enough Jewish women to realize that Jill Zarin doesn’ speak for them all.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        One of my good friends, who happens to be Jewish, refuses to buy anything that has Jewish in the title….her reason is the likely chance that it will be stereotypical and not in a good way.

      • desertgal66 says:

        Personally, I keep all my children in a cage and toss them raw meat every once in a while. I do let them out for Christmas, though.

        Is that wrong?


        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Oh, do you let them out to clean, cook, do yardwork too!?

          • Quincy IL says:

            Mine had to do farm work, school work, music and sports. Maybe, that is why they graduated from great universities which they got into with out my help or a fancy NYC tutor.

          • desertgal66 says:

            Of course. That’s what shock collars are for.

        • MAMAZ says:

          LOL! I must admit there are times I’m tempted to do the same!

        • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

          As long as you respect their right to wear fur today and not tomorrow, feed them plenty of gum berries and celebrate (your freedom), I think it’s fine.

    • Not just Jewish parents, but all parents. It is so insulting to women to tell them to settle for money and to use sex to get material things from your hubby! Acting like a whore in your marriage isn’t something young women should be taught. Whatever happened to telling women that they are worthy enough to wait for true love and able to achieve their own goals and buy their own material possessions and do not have to depend on a man for that?

  51. Adgirl says:

    Kelly is such a conundrum. She hates 1979 but all of her jewelry “designs” (rip offs) are from the 70’s.

    • Squirrels says:


      “Now we know what happened to Kelly in ’79. She had a near death experience in a chicken factory. Fortunately, with corn syrup therapy, Kelly has faced her dread of feathers and taken the cock (ok, hen – happy now?) by the neck and transformed her fear into wearable therapy. This is evidenced by her latest twitttttter photos of her wares, complete with flash in the glass in your face.” (don’t get me started on her photographer prowess… just don’t…ty.)

      “Kelly is charitable to the point where water fowl are lining up at the edge of one of the ponds in Central Park. (pregnant pause)

      Oh, wait…. Sorry. It’s a protest against Kelly. Damn those ducks are pissed! Film @ 11.”

  52. WHAM! Another of Sample’s defamatory “reviews” against Alex and Simon’s book bites the dust!

    Amazon just deleted Sample’s “review” under the guise of “Edie Stone”. LOL!

    Obtuse snot!

    • Viki55 says:

      Can you tell if Amazon deleted it or the author removed it?

      • Amazon sent me an email in response to my complaint and said the review did violate their rules. I included the link to the review and the actual review itself with passages I deemed to be defamatory highlighted. That helps Amazon locate any offending comments and make the decision whether or not to delete the review quickly. There were probably others that also reported the “review” using the report abuse button or by email.

        This is the email Amazon sent me:


        I’ve removed the review you noted, and it should disappear from Amazon.com soon. We want our review forum to be a place for constructive reviews that may be useful to other customers, and I thank you for bringing this to our attention.

        We hope to see you again soon.

        Please note: this e-mail was sent from an address that cannot accept incoming e-mail.

        To contact us about an unrelated issue, please visit the Help section of our web site.

        Best regards,

        Jeff G.
        Your feedback is helping us build Earth’s Most Customer-Centric Company.

        • Viki55 says:

          Too Kewl! Nice to see them respond so fast. I still have the page up with the review, using my back page. It disappeared while I was there reading the comments to the other negative reviews. So will they remove stuff if there are comments that don’t relate to the book?

        • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

          Edie Stone’s post and copy of her review have been removed on the anti-lynn site.

          • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

            But not the other 4 posts with different names and the same quilt that her post had.

            • Squirrels says:

              I’m getting dizzy. Sounds like shlock and blah over there.

            • Squirrels says:

              Found this amusing :

              crabbieannie: RT @Twilighttwitti: @bethenny @kikilet claims the chef at McDonald’s cooked the best yogurt parfait, yummmmm

          • Char212 says:

            Yes and Gwen never did post my comment telling Edie that I didn’t believe she read the book. Interesting that she moderates the comments and only posts those who agrees with her and the others who post there. No way to run a fair blog and encourage other points of few eh?

    • And I hay-ulped! (think: old Shake & Bake commercials with cute little kids whose Southern drawls were so thick they could cut up diamonds)

      Ok, so all I did was hit alert…….but glad to see Amazon’s not putting up with this nonsense!

  53. WindyCityWondering says:

    After reading Sonja’s blog, I am amazed by her diplomatic, keeping it light banter. She really walks a fine line and tries to put a positive spin on those who behave badly. Unfortunately, she will get burned by both Jill and Kelly eventually because they require nothing less than an oath signed in hate and blood in the name of friendship. Next season will be interesting because her newness will be gone and she will be fair game. And I am not getting the trying to reach out to LuAnn (don’t leave me???) unless she is trying to help LuAnn escape from Team Jill. IF she can do that, then we are left with Kelly’s wish: She will be Robin to Jill’s Batman!

    • Squirrels says:

      During the Overboard episode, Sonja came clean about her ego taking a hit, something I believe many divorced women can understand. What is interesting is that Sonja continues to be who she was.

      She admits she wasn’t looking to get married. Maybe he made her an offer she couldn’t refuse. Come on…. Morgan? Duh. The fact she wasn’t knocked off her feet was reason enough for this 4th generation mogul to want to get to know her. She’s not easily impressed.

      Sonja seems to have rediscovered herself. I adore it. Just finished up doing that myself, and yes, sex was a major contributor to my emancipation. All I can say is, yay me, yay Sonja!

  54. WindyCityWondering says:

    Good for you! It’s important to feel the best you can about yourself!
    Sojna is a good example for women going through their personal journey of discovery. Her watching and coming to her own conclusions has been interesting and refreshing. IMHO, next season (if Jill and/or Kelly) return – Sonja will reach the point where she can’t condon or ignore cruel or bad behavior – the gloves will come off and we will see what Sonja is made of! She is loyal, she knows crazy when she sees it, she won’t be labelled by others or lumped in where she doesn’t belong. I am really looking forward to seeing her next season.

  55. Sha2000 says:

    “I did tear up a little bit when Caroline was taking to Albie about his education.”

    Not me! How many times are we going to have to watch Caroline give her laugh & then fall over crying? We saw it at the reunion, at Barney’s when she saw Al in his new suit. and countless other times. She loves her family & defends them good; but nothing worth watching over & over again.

    I too was happy not to see Teresa’s kids this week; agree with you 100% Lynn! Ironically I only kids I like on the show are Danielle’s but watching her just makes me uncomfortable, I was never one for horror, lol!

  56. Ellabean says:


    Done, boring, stupid, dark, unimaginative, lazy, stereotype. And those are its good points. And what I hate most about all the characters are : their stupidity and cliche’ ‘toughgirl’ talk. HATE HATE HATE. All of them.

    And I have been a devotee of the franchise in all cities so far – for the most part.
    When channel surfing late at nite – if I have some sleeplessness – and I come across a late nite rerun of Jersey – I cannot even watch it. I am going to informercials.

    I live in New Jersey. Of ourse , I know you know that not all Jersey babes are like them….but you know what ? There are plenty. At all income levels here. I go to the grocery store and regularly see the the tough talking, tatooed, stupid….Jersey women. There are plenty.

    Hate them.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      My favorite Jersey Girl is Stephanie Plum from Janet Evanovich! I just downloaded Sizzling Sixteen so fuggetabout RHONJ, I gotta find out what Stephanie is up to now.

  57. Ellabean says:

    Go back to Staten Island. We should have closed the Goethels and the Verrazano bridges a long time ago.

  58. Cyn says:

    From Ms. Twunty McSclore’s RHONY recap on Tvgasm (last episode):

    “As far as I know, Jill is still clinging to that ice floe that Lynn from Chicago put her on, just a skeleton in a skating dress clutching her book after her Anchorage appearance at Border’s got cancelled and no one told her.”


  59. Carried over from the last blog…

    The video is Kelly and her girls hangin’ out on Father’s Day. Where’s Dad? Not even a shout out. Damn.

    • PantryViewer says:

      Haven’t had a chance to play the video yet, and don’t know if I can stomach it. But! Of course I have a comment 😉 She looks hung over and creepy in the still.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      OMG – Kelly is a closet camp counselor – craft projects (jewelry line???) are her passion!

  60. Cajunlady says:

    Lynn, I want to thank you and your followers for this website. I am from Louisiana, originally from the area hit hard by the oil spill, with family members and friends being affected hard by this disaster. There is very little to smile about these days, much less, laugh. And that is exactly what I have been doing these past couple of weeks since I found your blog. I tune in to watch the Housewives to escape the real world, and end up getting so frustrated because of their ingratitude, their self-centeredness, and their downright meanness. You and the people who post opinions have given me hours of entertainment, filled with countless smiles and outright laughter. All of you have given voice to my feelings, I just wish I was so eloquent with words. This site has given me entertainment and a chance to escape the doom and gloom that my people are facing daily. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Hang in there!!! We are going to get OUR gulf back…
      $20 Billion from the jerks at BP or whatever it takes (better they pay then the working Americans who did not cause this spill) & hopefully more $$$ from the morons at Transocean & Halliburton. We all feel this pain one way or another & we are all united in this!

    • BamaBelle says:

      CajunLady… Your post was very well-written, and I enjoyed it! I feel the same way about this site and the countless hours of enjoying the posters and all the funny, well-written comments, all the great links they post for us… my house is being neglected for sure.

      I’m sorry you’re going through a tough time. I was rasied up going to the beaches in Panama City, Fla. and Gulf Shores, Al… it’s a shame… the beaches are so beautiful and I feel so bad for all the wildlife, the people and their businesses!

      • anniieee says:

        I live over in Jax Bch but when I get back from DC–(I am a teacher) my daughter and I are heading to the Gulf to volunteer as a clean up crew. Hang in..we love our land and will get it back!!

    • tuzentswurth says:

      This is good escapism, and the humor that comes through sometimes floors me too. I am appalled at what has happened in the Gulf and my thoughts are with all the innocent people and other lifeforms affected by this terrible man-made disaster fueled by corporate greed. Bless you.

  61. ANP says:

    Do you hate periods? Or maybe you just love exclamation marks!

  62. From Reality Tea:

    Sooo Jacqueline’s hubby Chris Filed bankruptcy Sept. 2009… Isn’t that around the time of the Guidice troubles? Just Askin’.


    • iceNfire says:

      “The bankruptcy is described as “an involuntary petition for liquidation under Chapter 7″

      Seems like he didn’t do the filing He’s being sued. If I’m not mistaken, they could lose everything under chapter 7.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I think it depends on what he used as security with those who are suing him – if he did use his home/property then this could factor in. Now you got me wondering where that Jeep Ashley had really went – cause you don’t just give autos away unless you are into Tony Soprano for a loan……

      • LynnNChicago says:

        I think you’re right, in order for them to keep the house, they have to be able to make the monthly payments. Thats the bottom line. You can reorganize and lower finance charges and consolidate all of your debts then set up a payment plan but it has to be an amount you can reasonably afford and it has to be paid back within a specified date. ( 5-years or 10-years, I’m not sure which) I think that is Chapter 13. Clearly, they cannot afford to do this.

        Chapter 7 is a fresh start that T mentioned. It wipes out all debt but you don’t get to keep what you can’t pay for.

        Of course, I could be wrong LOL

        • FredTheCatTravels says:

          I just wanted to mention that his business filed for bankruptcy or re-organization not Chris Laurita personally.

          Unlike Juicy Joe, if Chris had tied up personal assets in the business, I’m sure he personally would have filed.

          With such HUGE clients such as Levis, Jay-Z, and Eve, I would doubt he has personal finances in the game other than his salary and perks.

          Also, this filing has been out there almost a year.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          There truly is no type of bankruptsy that gives you a slate wiped clean fresh start. Chap 7 is for folks who have over extended credit debt and/or medial debt – they don’t own property or paper assets (stocks, etc). Their income is low (like poverty level low) and they will not be granted unsecured credit of any type if their debt is wiped out for several years.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      His business went under – likely hasn’t been paying his vendors and this how he gets out of cheating others while living past his means. Guess this was a topic of those poker games……..let’s all do bankruptsy!

  63. anutha hata says:

    Comcast stole my BRAVO! I don’t have the Comcast digital reciever on all of my TVs.
    I don’t want to pay an additional $1.99mo, plus, I don’t want another electrical appliance that stays pluuged-in 24/7 using electricity, and plug-space.
    Anyone else lose Bravo yesterday?
    I tweeted @bravotv, I wonder if they know that Comcast just lost them a whole lot of eyeballs?

  64. Jenni says:

    Please, your guesses as to what Jill sent? A copy of her book? Some of her chocolates? One of LuAnne’s CDs?

    I’m not sure why, but I found this one amusing:

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yeah she got a breast reduction but they sure don’t look lifted! Don’t you love the one shoulder, rippy look – so Kelly/LuAnn!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      clearly she had no idea how to answer any political questions, she is such an idiot!!!

    • error 404 says:

      why is she so stupid? She now saying the feud was disproportionate… but when we all saw B say that first, she objected. She’s the one who blew the feud up into a 3 ring circus and now she’s blaming B for it? We all saw it Jill! We know what happened.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Be realistic – Bethenny was TOO busy trying to EARN a living and Jill got pissed that she wasn’t available to PLAY – it is alllll Bethennnny’s fawlt! Seriously, all Jill wanted to do was free up Bethenny’s time so they could be BFFs.

  65. Earring Girl says:

    I posted on the “other” blog this morning around 9:30 a.m. and it was under consideration or revision (whatever) it remained that way until about 2:45 p.m. and it never was posted. I was only asking what was the purpose of the blog and was it just to trash another blogger. The title of the blog is really stupid – IMHO.

  66. boston02127 says:

    @iceNfire—-found this:
    From Bloomburg Businessweek:
    Signature Apparel Group, LLC designs, develops, manufactures, and distributes branded apparel in the United States and internationally. The company was founded in 1994 and is based in New York, New York. On September 4, 2009, an involuntary petition for liquidation under Chapter 7 was filed against Signature Apparel Group, LLC in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York.

  67. Tracey says:

    Saw on that other blog just how vile it is getting, this is what I posted

    You used to be so anti hate. What happened? People react to Jill Zarin because of the vile way she behaves in public and too her friends and now she is obviously taking aim at Alex. Can’t see that Alex has really done anything except write a successful book. Be happy that you are in a position to “reveal” devastating secrets about a family. It shows you for the hypocrite you are. Let’s see if you post this.

    If I should not mention this other blog let me know, but what she is doing seems just vile. I have problems with Jill because of her public behavior, but this lady is spreading scandal (or threatening to!) Can’t Alex sue for this?

    • iceNfire says:

      Again I see nothing since midnight.

    • felony stupid says:

      Its a joke. There’s what 6 people posting there? Including my personal fav jen samples (we know its you honey) posting as at least 4 diff people. Its a sorry site and no one much cares.

      Tracey – loved your post…unfortunately that hypocrite G is not gonna allow it. 🙂

  68. BamaBelle says:

    Can somebody answer a question for me? I don’t like my quilt stamp, LOL! Is there anyway I can choose another one, or am I stuck with it?

  69. I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

    This is a tweet from a columist at Popeater.com. I must caution you guys, he is a friend of Jill’s.

    NaughtyNiceRob Neither Simon and Alex or Countess LuAnn has been invited back yet onto next season of housewives! What do u think?
    4 minutes ago via Twitterrific

    • LynnNChicago says:

      he’s a moron. The show hasn’t even been given the green light yet, NO ONE has been invited back yet, so while his statement is true, it is missing some important information.

      • Tracey says:

        Is Jill pissed at Luann now, I guess we can find out if LuAnn’s book starts getting nasty reviews

        • LynnNChicago says:

          honestly, I don’t think these two women were “real” friends. They travel in different social circles and in my opinion, Luann doesn’t want to get anymore of the Jill Zarin dirt on her…I think Lulu has distanced herself.

          • BamaBelle says:

            I agree, Lynn!

            LuLu and Jill were not good friends in Season~2. LuLu jumped on the Jill bandwagon when cameras started rolling on Season~3. I think she realizes now… it was a mistake!

            She still has a lot of re-deeming to do in my book because I haven’t forgotten how mean and nasty she was to Bethenny!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          LuAnn doesn’t appear to be down with Jill’s gorilla warfare anymore – it started showing at the reunion…..now Jill and Kelly are joined at the hip.

      • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

        I think Jill has something to do with this “scoop”. Rob Shuter is a friend of hers and he has stated that is is on “Team Jill”. I am wondering if there is a rift between LuAnn and Jill.

        • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

          I didn’t mean to say the word “is” twice. Sorry for the typo. lol

      • I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

        Someone asked Rob Shuter if Kelly was coming back and he said he didn’t know but he would find out.

    • Just another planted story by or for Jill. I’ll believe the relative of the NBC insider before any crony of jill’s. LOL!

  70. boston02127 says:

    From the site fansofreality:
    Christopher Laurita owns Signature Apparel Group with his brother who has been estranged from Caroline and Dina for a decade.

    Jacqueline straddles the fence between those two women and Danielle, but I think her husband must be in the same place (in the middle) between those sisters and his brother.
    Chris’s nephew (the son of the brother he is in partnership with) died suddenly last fall, which would have been after the taping of this show. (Tragically he was only 25. He also worked for Signature). Half the family (inc. Caroline and Dina and possibly their parents and a few other sibs) were left out of the memorial.
    I am guessing Chris and Jac’s newborn son’s middle name is in memory of their nephew.
    table flipping day:
    It’s terrible when a family falls apart like that, and it happens far too often, but Caroline’s bemoaning the fact that Jacqueline would cause their parents’ to suffer because she sided with a “friend” is pretty incredible, when you consider just how dysfunctional that family really is. I’m not the least bit surprised Chris stood up to side with his wife against his bullying sisters.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      This family is so confusing! Next we are going to find out that 15 year old who gave up Danielle is a long lost Manzo!!!!

    • UpperWestSideDude says:

      Signature Apparel Group filed of bankruptcy last September.

    • UpperWestSideDude says:

      You can see pictures of the long lost brother and the nephew that died here.

      • iceNfire says:

        No wonder his company went bankrupt. They paid for Jay-Z and Eve to host a party!

        • BamaBelle says:

          Thanks UpperWSDude,

          They didn’t even have Dina and Caroline listed as sisters… that must have been some fight!

          It makes sense now… Season~2, at the beginning Caroline explains that she has gotten to know Jacq better and they have become close. I thought that was an odd statement because why weren’t they already close? Now it makes sense why Jacq hauled off and hit Caroline a few years ago. It must have something to do with the brother Caroline doesn’t speak to!

          What a HYPOCRITE… seems it’s not just Danielle who has skeletons in the closet. That’s what made me mad about season~1… they way they tore Danielle apart over a book written by an ex, over 20 years ago. They are NO BETTER than Danielle and I hope every little thing about them is exposed… since Dina and Caroline trotted Danielle’s past out for everybody to see!

          I hope a viewer brings up the brother they don’t speak to in the reunion… since Caroline is all about HER FAMILY!

    • BamaBelle says:

      Great information, AGAIN, Boston!

      How many brothers and sisters does Caroline have? I can’t believe there’s a brother who Caroline hasn’t spoke to in 10 years! What a hypocrite trying to make us think she is ALL about family!

      The brother that came to Dina’s house last year? I think he was a Chef, not sure, maybe a decorater? We only saw him briefly. Is he the one that Caroline referred to in the Reunion show that was Gay?

      How horrible that Caroline’s nephew died at the age of 25 and she didn’t attend the memorial… WOW! I thought Jaq was much nicer last year, now that she’s “closer” to Caroline and Dina… she’s a Bitch just like them.

      • emt2 says:

        Yes. He is a celebrity chef. I think his name is Jaime (?) and I’ve seen a few of his videos on youtube.com I think he toured with Sarah McLaughlin or someone like that.

        I think Jaime (?) is a chef and helped Dina with her interior design business.

        Great detective work Boston!

        • BamaBelle says:

          There was a Joey in the obits UpperWSDude posted (about the nephew), I think he lives in California… Is that him?

  71. vgirl511 says:

    I am really curious to know why Caroline and Dina have been estranged from this other brother for over a decade….what happened to “as thick as thieves”?

    • boston02127 says:

      @vgirl511~~I’d like to know too. I’ve been on about 15 sites and can’t find anything thou.

    • BamaBelle says:

      vgirl511… you said that much better than I did… yeah, what happened???

    • emt2 says:

      I have a feeling that Caroline and Dina consider themselves Manzos first and foremost and Lauritas second. The thick as thieves seems to be more for the Manzos.

      I didn’t have the impression that C and D were really close to Jacqueline’s brother last year and had been having issues with Jacqueline ever since the couple married and she moved to New Jersey.

  72. boston02127 says:

    from Kelly’s tweet:

    i love gather.com they wrote about @jillzarin and i having lunch. i wish they’d write about SAFE SEX and the work of AIDS Service center.
    Question. At gather.com don’t people write about themselves?
    Here’s the link.

  73. WindyCityWondering says:

    Maybe he didn’t want to be part of the Brownstone “family business” and wanted to start his own company and took little brother Chris with him.

  74. anutha hata says:

    Maybe he’s the one who told Caroline to shave her face the 1st time? Whoever did that owes her a lifetime of razors.

    • boston02127 says:

      Bwhahahaha good one anutha hata!

    • Quincy IL says:

      This is something a lot of people do. My friend told me that she visited relatives in Poland and they all shaved. I don’t know why this would be any more strange than shaving under your arms and your legs. Carolyn just told America that there is a solution to hair on your face as you get older without spending a boat load of money.

  75. Earring Girl says:

    If the NJ group keep filing bankruptcy – they will all end up working at the Browstone.

  76. Jessie says:

    I still hate Jill Zarin. But I think that Teresa may take the cake. I am SICK of this woman with her holier-than-thou (sp?) attitude re: Danielle (who is also a trashy creep). This woman is absolutely no better. Bitch helped get them 11 mil. in debt and acts like her shit don’t stink and she thinks she has right to call out anyone else.

    I live in NJ and I struggle to pay my mortgage for a 2 damn bedroom condo. I work (admin assist at private school) and my husband works (union carpenter) and we bring home more than their FRAUDULENT claim of 76,000 a year and I can’t barely buy a book without questioning what else I have going on bill wise.

    The fact that Bravo is endorsing this load of horse shit is really getting on my last nerve. And unfortunately I have a sinking feeling she will be able to “start fresh”. Oh and her damn “start fresh” comment makes my blood boil. You getting a fresh start off MY PAYCHECK. Taxes in Jersey are already atrocious and it is BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THEM. I find bankruptcy an option for people with unexpected medical bills, lay offs, etc. Not for a nasty woman who buys mansions and hosts extravagant parties for her damn kid and herself (i think my wedding cost less than her kids bday party).

    I want to see her like Tamara from OC living in a tiny apartment with her mother. Or even Lynn from OC where the show showed they were “grifters” or whatever the word is. But Teresa is on a pedestal and I don’t thing we will get to see her downfall (there has to be no way this show will come for a 3rd season). She is not funny, entertaining or snarky. She is a nasty bitch who is scamming the State of NJ and nobody seems to care. The bitch still claims she has her shore house and her home is not for sale. Um, ok. If that is true than I am even MORE disgusted by my State and that family that they can get away with this and do so PUBLICITY.

    Sorry for my rant. I post occasionally here, but i just have to get this out. This woman is disgusting and the last thing she deserves is attention or praise for her situation. She should be in a cardboard box.

    P.S. I still hate Jill Zarin.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Teresa will go down – no doubt about it!
      They won’t get a clean slate, nor will they get to keep all that swell stuff or that hotel sized house. It will be interesting to see if Bravo will keep these bankrupt bimbos after all their glitz and glamour gets stripped away!! We can watch them lunch at McDonalds and shop at garage sales!

    • iceNfire says:

      Love your rant Jesse and agree with you. I don’t watch the NJ show but did read Teresa blog ( couldn’t read the rest of them ) She makes me so mad!
      Don’t worry it’s catching up with all of them. I don’t see how Bravo could Condone such behavior when the rest of the country is in an economic downfall.
      Liars! Broke Ass Liars! Go To Work You Ugly Bitch!

    • Buffywood says:


      I could not have said it better myself!!! I hope she enjoyed her damn party because it is peopel like us who PAID for it. Peopel need to remember that… we all pay for it somehow… in our mortgage interest rates, our credit card rates, our taxes… We pay more so irresponsible people like them can get away with paying nothing. How about the small business owners they can screw by walking away from their debt, much like Donald Trump did in Atlantic City.
      If you get sick, hurt, lose a job, or lose a spouse, etc… that is what bankruptcy should be for. Not the I make $10 but I am going to spend $100 trash like those people.


    • Jessie says:

      All these agreeing responses made me feel slightly better! I see her blog and the posts, and TWOP (i know I’m a sucker for punishment) and people do nothing but PRAISE her. Thank God for this site and ALL the people on it. Nowhere else could I rant like that, get it posted and get such positive responses that can slightly take some of the anger away.

    • emt2 says:

      I agree. Teresa is the worst.

    • BamaBelle says:

      *Standing Ovation* Jesse… Great Post!

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Great post. She should be in JAIL as far as I’m concerned. Trash.

  77. I Can't Stand The Toxicity says:

    Alex tweeted Rob Shuter and informed him that NO ONE has been invited back yet. His source was wrong.

    mccordalex No one has; thought u were smarter than that, silly bear. RT @NaughtyNiceRob: Neither Silex or LuAnn invited back yet 2next season of hwives

  78. iamrogue says:

    NYPOST. PAGE SIX. Today.

    Elvira Broke also and must face court for non payment of taxes.

    • UpperWestSideDude says:

      Seriously? I saw some article where Elvira was flashing some $50,000 Rolex with diamonds. When does it end? These people are a pariah.

    • Quincy IL says:

      The one bill you have to pay is the property taxes. The government will get paid even if there your do go to court with Teresa’s problem.

  79. iamrogue says:

    Talk about a hypocrite. Cleo mom’s new blog.

    My post under moderation that will be removed soon:

    iamrogue says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    June 23, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    • iamrogue says:

      Ps. Gwen predecated all her blogs on the premise of NON-HATE.

      She requested numerous times that you do not use the word hate in your posts.

      She allowed out and out threats posted towards Lynn. Probably why She Was Bounced Yet Again…only this time from HUBPAGES….(Jeez Gwen…don’t you ever get tired of being thrown out of places? I mean seriously!..give it up already…you are so jill, I’m beginning to believe you are of the same damaged strain of “the pod”)

      NOW, She is posting a Hate Blog.

      I don’t even know what to say. I’m speechless. Very seldom happens.

      She can’t write, she can’t rally posters, she can’t keep her word, she cannot adhere to her own “many times written ethics” (you will find them cached on hubpages and again here on wordpress).

      She “DISLIKES LYNN” for a stupid name for a blog…I Hate Jill Zarin.

      Then she starts a new blog after all her claims of being spiritual and above it all with an I HATE blog.

      Help me someone…please…this is jill all over again.

      • Squirrels says:

        I’m seriously confused. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ty.

        • felony stupid says:

          I can’t seem to find a way to see if there are any comments on here silly rant. Did she set it up so you can’t tell that no one cares?

          She is a tool.

          • felony stupid says:

            gah…can’t believe I got sucked in again!!! Sorry Lynn. I need wine. It’s 5 o’clock somewhere right??

    • Kokuanani says:

      We don’t care about these damn other blogs!!!!!

      Your referencing them just drives traffic there. Is that what you want?

  80. Jenni says:

    OOOOOH, snarky!

    • UpperWestSideDude says:

      OMG! For someone who is not comfortable showing her body she shows everything – pierced camel toe included. At least the guy wore a condom.

    • UpperWestSideDude says:

      I wonder who the guy was. It wasn’t Steve. That’s straight up porn. You can tell one of her tits has a mind of its own which is why she keeps holding them.

    • Waslurking says:

      whatever… no big deal as far as I’m concerned.
      Good thing back in my day the vid wasn’t so easy to
      and I burned it! Not that anyone would care….lol

    • Ches says:

      OMG! I can’t believe my curiosity actually got the best of me. Never again!

    • error 404 says:

      my dog eats popcorn too, but someone recently told me she could choke. Hmmm.. she’s been eating it for years.

      She also likes carrots, but not as much as Cookie does. Sometimes I’ll find half eaten baby carrots around the house, so I don’t give her those anymore.

  81. Sofi says:

    The bankruptcy of Signature Apparel doesn’t affect Jacqueline and Chris personally except you have to wonder where the income to support that house and lifestyle is coming from nowadays. We have to wonder how Theresa and Joe are managing to hold onto and maintain the onyx and marble palace. It just isn’t right and the bankruptcy court should not allow that to occur, not when they are flaunting all that excess on television. With all the financial distress going on among all the housewives (OC, NY, NJ, ATL), I am beginning to wonder if every one of them who put themselves out there as privileged and affluent is not pretending to have much more than they actually do (except Bethenny, who owned up to struggling financially). Next thing you know, Zarin Fabrics will file.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMHO the company’s revenue was what supported that life style and it will directly hit them on the homefront – hope they have enough stashed away so they can pay the utility bills until they get forced out of the place!

    • emt2 says:

      No, I don’t care about Elvira. She is not even a housewife. She is desperately trying to get on the NJ show or Bethenny’s show and I hope neither picks her up in the future.

  82. Jenni says:

    Is this OUR BBB error404?

    HIGH SOCIETY: “Fame is a Hobby”
    poptalk — April 10, 2010 — Welcome to pop!talk’s world exclusive HIGH SOCIETY recap show — featuring Yellow Peril and Error 404!

    @error- Should I post the link to the video?

  83. iamrogue says:

    Bankrupt Teresa Giudice isn’t the only deadbeat on “Real Housewives of New Jersey.” Elvira Grau — the snarky party planner who debuted on the show Monday and boasted of a lux urious lifestyle replete with nan nies, maids, cooks and drivers — owes nearly $300,000 to the tax man. Grau and her husband, James, were slapped with massive state tax liens between January and March on various properties, including their $3 million Cresskill mansion, according to New Jersey Superior Court re cords. Grau said she was the newest housewife to join the show, a claim Bravo denied, although she’ll appear in more episodes. And despite her boasts to Guidice about having a shore house, property records show Grau and her husband don’t own any thing near a beach. Meanwhile, Giu dice’s beach house was seized by the banks after she and hubby Joe Giudice filed their $11 million bankruptcy in Octo ber. Bravo wouldn’t comment and Grau’s reps didn’t return calls.

  84. boston02127 says:

    Kelly posts pic’s of herself all the time on her tweeter. She post this one to show the Polo shirt she is wearing. Besides the fact that she looks like she wet her pants does anyone see anything really uneven in this pic? (.) ( . )


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      wow not very flattering and it is very obvious what Ramona was talking about!

    • desertgal66 says:

      Why does she keep posting photos like this? Who cares what kind of polo shirt she wears? Newsflash, Kelly – you are NOT a style trendsetter. Your taste is awful.

      And I hoped she sued her plastic surgeon over the lopsided boobs. Jeez, Kelly, get them fixed already. You constantly look like you are listing to the right.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        lol give the lunatic a break – she thinks she is still a super model and a very charitable person who shares her beauty…alot

    • Melanie says:

      It really makes you wonder just what was kelly seeing in her mirror, when the obvious was sliding around her chest.

    • error 404 says:

      that’s a man’s body, including the two fake boobs. She looks like she’s just completed the equestrian challenge on Ru Paul’s Drag Race. Executive realness! How did she ever pass 2 babies thru those 13 yo boy hips? At this point, her kids are the only reason I’m only joking about her being a tranny.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        It must be a PETA support day – no fur in sight!

      • emt2 says:

        When she was arrested, I thought the police report identified her as a male?

        She would actually be a really pretty tranny instead of being a real masculine woman who grinds steroids all day long and takes baths in chicken grease.

    • Yeah, the girls are definitely heading in different directions.

    • BamaBelle says:

      OMG… Looks like somebody didn’t get that wandering boobie fixed!

    • Kokuanani says:

      It looks like her boobs are heading in different directions, as usual.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      The boobs ARE awful, the pose is awful and the shirt is too small. She must have gotten confused and put her 8 year old’s shirt on instead. But it’s okay because like she is real…a real moron.

  85. UpperWestSideDude says:

    Someone commented that Teresa looks like Marty Feldman from Young Frankenstein. LOL!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      she looks like she is related to the wolfman

    • boston02127 says:

      @UpperWestSideDude–I just googled Marty Feldman and almost fell off my chair laughing. LOL yes she does!!!

      Now we have Teresa as Marty Feldman and Danielle as the Grinch who stole Christmas.

    • desertgal66 says:

      Marty Feldman was better looking.

      “Walk this way…”

  86. iamrogue says:

    Ive been reading this blog for awhile, since its hubpages days. Thank you Lynn.

    So many have queried as to why Simon had stopped blogging. Alex more than hinted at that. She stated quite clearly that Jill had done “something” that caused him trouble in his career. What that “something” is, we do not know. We only know clearly of her most recent attack on the Van Kempen’s and Simon’s career with the ridiculous “spread eagle” claim in the corridors of the hotel Simon manages.

    I submit that Jill did in fact do something as yet unknown to the public that caused such a stir that Simon was forced to stop blogging so as not to lose his position well before Jill’s spread eagle false exclamations on the reunion show.

    This is why Jill Zarin is so despised and derserves to be.

    The Van Kempen’s are a couple who reside in Brooklyn trying to make it in an exceedingly difficult economy. Jill does not and will not ever understand that.

    The Zarin’s are Multi Millionaires. I read where someone asked that a poster “prove” the net worth of the real estate owned by BZ. That cannot be done. He owns primarily commercial real estate. That kind of real estate is always purchased under separate LLP’s to limit liability. These LLP’s are under any name the purchaser files under.

    Robert Zarin makes his money primarily from his real estate holdings.

    The fact that a woman as wealthy as Jill still feels so empty and devoid of happiness that she constantly and consistly claims upon meeting people that “she has just had a Bad Day” is mind boggling. Does she even know what a bad day is?

    A bad day to Mrs. Zarin is that her latest machination did not take as she wish it would have.

    She is so pathetic that she spends all her time thinking, obsessing, planning, planting and spinning; she has bad days when all her evil work does not reap her what she anticipates it should.

    Simon is 100% correct when he states that to all others, taping is a side job.

    To Jill, it is her LIFE!…BAWBY and her daughter mean so much to her. Taping is her life. How sad. How you belittle your pod.

    Your mother has reared an exceedingly ugly individual. Your sister has given birth to a SPAWN. A college kid who spends his life threatening middle aged women and on twitter under Palmer getting his and his nutty aunt’s word of hate and destruction of people and careers out.

    I for one am tired of giving Lisa Wexler and Gloria a pass on any of this. Where are these people to make any statements saying they do not support such underhanded and devious endeavors? Where?

    They are as guilty. And Lisa…Get a collar on your son. He should be going to frat parties, dating, having fun. What is so wrong with your “pod”…you know, that thing B is missing therefore she must be damaged, that you cannot control your son? Why isn’t he getting dating? Having fun? Being embarrassed by this all? Why is he so into it?

    Sounds to me like you reared some damaged kid.

    So, go try a shill your book. Your Pod is so damaged, no one wishes to read how to do such a great slam up job you and Gloria did in rearing your children.

    Your “Pod” should stop pro creating…PLEASE, LET THE BREED DYE OUT.


  87. Search the Web on Snap.com says:


  88. iamrogue says:

    Oh..one more thing..

    Any of you out there working for corporation know that they will say to you that they do not care if the claims are false or not..

    They do not want any attention brought to them, their holdings or their reputations and if it continues, you are out.

    Now, we know why Simon had to stop blogging and don’t be surpised if he gets dismissed anyway…Thank you Jill Zarin. You are disgusting.

  89. error 404 says:


    What is going on? She said absolutely nothing that even hinted that she’s not returning, yet that’s the headline they ran. Weird.

    • iceNfire says:

      Just endless speculation.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        she could have a career in politics – she says nothing and hedges her bets either way.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Wow, she doesn’t have a problem with anyone on the show??? Her endless condescension and interference made me think that B was spot on when she called her a snake. IMHO, I think she is still in a bit of a tailspin. She lost her status and probably her wealth with her divorce.(Really, Luann, 4th wife? did you think you’d be the special one?) It is now much more difficult to swish around and be a toffee-nosed twit. Also not being a legitimate “countess”, much more difficult to appear places and expect everyone to fall at your royal feet and pick up the tab. Now you just look poor, not “entitled”. She can’t sing, we know that. She may have to get a serious real job and I have no idea what her skill set is. Following her to a menial job may not fit the Housewives franchise. Despite all this, I feel a bit sorry for her.
      However,…….. I still think Kelly is a moron.

  90. WindyCityWondering says:

    There may be merit to Simon not blogging because of something Jill has said/done/implied. The fact that she brought up the Alex pictures and the hotel again means she didn’t get the desired effect the first time. She is hatefully relentless.

    • Tracey says:

      Every blog I go to trolls will sneak links or mentions of the pictures. I can’t imagine a professional PR firm that would do this. Just Jill minions. Asked for proof of the one Jill so vulgarly described, its not there, Hell I wouldn’t care if it was. Nudity doesn’t mean much now days, unless I did it, that would send Kelly right over the edge…

      • felony stupid says:

        Pretty sure they don’t. When asked, I keep getting “my friend saw them” or “I have them but they are too explicit to post” or they were “pulled from the internet” (which in this day and age is pretty much impossible.

        It’s a smear campaign and total bs.

    • emt2 says:

      When I met Simon at a signing, he said that he didn’t have time to blog as much as he used to.

      I’m not sure Jill’s idle hands are behind this particular issue but I’m sure she’ll be behind something tomorrow. 🙂

  91. mom2 says:

    I wish they had never found Danielle and this series had taken a FUN turn instead of the creepy (thanks KKB) path it’s on. Danielle is what she is and just because the others aren’t perfect doesn’t make her the “right” one. In my opinion, no one is.

    Danielle — showed her true colors this season from loading up her 2 girls to stalk the event at Caroline’s house – thank goodness she was talked out of it by her daughters – to making a new sex tape even as the other one was in litigation to turning a charity event into the “All about Danielle” production just because those who threw the event chose the Brownstone. There is no justification or excuse for bringing in thugs who were ready to “tear the place apart” during the charity function for a cancer-ridden child. Since then, she has tried to hide behind the “I’m sooooo self conscious about my body” while performing on a pole for some of her thugs, posing for her “friends” and cameras in lingerie, and recently opening her towel to show not just the doctor and nurse, but the camera and crew her whole torso. I’m just hitting some of the highlights, no telling what this psycho will do next. Her inability to accept rejection without going psycho truly makes her dangerous.

    Dina — wisely got out and I choose to believe her that Danielle wouldn’t stop contacting her. She was shown last season to be obsessed especially with Dina, I see no reason that’s changed. Even if her marriage is going through a rough patch or whatever, better for her that she completely cut away from this mess. And kept her daughter, Lexie, out of it after witnessing what it became last season. BTW, I hope she slapped ZenJen the next time she saw her for that horrible advice.

    Caroline — has her moments as well. She is most definitely the Alpha Female, and has had some classless moments trashing Danielle. However, she is mostly focused on keeping her family out of the fray and supporting her husband and kids. Seems to have a handle on her kids, who are not lounging around the house doing nothing.

    Jacqueline — is not as bright as Caroline or Dina but is likeable, until she hops on that “trash Danielle” train, then she derails. Her daughter, Ashley, needs to realize that this show is not about her, it’s about her mother and stay out of the media. Tired of Ashley.

    Teresa — is kidding herself if she thinks we’re buying into her lady of the manor routine. She is the worst trash talker of the bunch and it only serves to reveal her character. Again. I tried to be on her side, but when she posted a hateful secret message on her blog … classless. I’m done with her.

    Please get rid of Danielle and see if the others can make the show fun, or scrap everyone and start with a fresh cast. Including Kim “I’m a Lush” D, Kim “I’ll do anything to be a Housewife” G, and Elvira “I can’t pay my bills, I’ll fit right in”.

    • emt2 says:

      I don’t mind Danielle if she had new women to interact with.

      I don’t want to see a show about the Manzo family, which is what they want and are hinting at. I don’t like any of them.

      But, I think I’m done with the NJ Housewives. I didn’t watch it when it first aired but then I got sucked into a few episodes and really regret doing so.

      I just don’t like any of those women and I especially don’t like the hypocrisy and the Manzo clan-like behavior and attitude.

      • iceNfire says:

        I can’t stand the Manzo clan or Teresa but Dina is not as she says. I saw her tweeting insults about Danielle yesterday. Nope Dina left the show for another reason which will come to light just as her brother Joe who has been estranged from the family that is “thick as thieves” came to light today.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I think Danielle is a hot mess. Been over and over that today and I don’t want to rehash the whole thing.
      I originally respected Dina for walking away from the show but since she still keeps tweeting about Danielle I don’t know why she bothered to leave. Maybe she wants to be begged to come back like JZ at a reunion show.
      Caroline is socially awkward. She can’t relate to anyone outside of her particular circle. And she looks terribly uncomfortable at the dance studio and Danielles spa party in season 1. And I agree with emt2 that her friend Bernie Kerik is a lowlife.
      Jacqueline makes me want to throw up. She’s stupid, self absorbed and mean. Slimey Steve tells her Danielle sent him the videos of herself so all of a sudden it’s ok for him to sell them without her knowledge or approval? And she’s sorry for holding it against the dirtbag? That guy would NEVER cross my threshold again. He’s a creep.
      And Theresa. What can I say that hasn’t already been said?

  92. KookADoodleDo says:

    Forgive me if this has alreadt been posted:

    Alex talks Danielle drama, Brownstone charity events gone awry, Kim G’s two-faced ways, and more! ”

  93. Somebody, maybe Samples/Palmer (some who believe is Jill’s nephew)/J. Ashley/Jill or someone else they know are taking this into the criminal arena. One or all of them have stolen A. Chandler’s identity by opening a twitter account in her name and are posting as if they are her. Chandler has filed a fraud report with twitter already. Karma will catch up with them eventually.

    Of course, Jill will be blamed for this also. Some people will believe she is behind this attack, others believe it’s her nephew or friends (Samples, Ashly). They’re all connected to Jill. If Jill played by the rules, she would have put an end to these attacks but they only serve to hurt her image more. The more her trolls try to wreck havoc and harass people, the more it hurts jill’s reputation. LOL!

    • Squirrels says:

      Why continue to go after Alana? She said her piece, she has allowed this to die down, (I hope she’s quietly suing Jill’s ass) and still they persist?

      Slow Jill news day kids?

    • felony stupid says:

      To the trolls that report back:

      Jill darlin’ you released the moron brigade. All they are accomplishing is bringing Amazongate back into the spotlight. It’s your rep that’s taking the hit. No one gives 2 craps about your nephew or your sister or your PR guy – you will be the one ultimately left holding the bag on this one.

      Now a whole new group of peeps will be looking up what happened with JZ/Saunders on Amazon. Good job. Way to remind people why this blog was born.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      You are EXACTLY right, it is one thing to call out these celebrities on their behavior, it is quite another to attack regular people. I don’t attack Jill’s supporters, I don’t say anything to them at all. Believe me, I’d love to shake them and ask them if they’re watchng the same show as I am or if they’re not paying attention during the show.

      I feel horrible for Alana Chandler, she was asked by Jill Zarin’s camp to review the book even sent her a free copy. When she gave her honest review, she has been in a tailspin ever since. I was the one that emailed Alana and let her know that this was going on, that someone created her name on Twitter. But these idiots didn’t just create the name, they took it a step further and identified themselves as the #1 Amazon Reviewer, that is illegal! I hope that someday Alana gets some satisfaction out of all of this and I certainly hope that Amazon is backing her up!

      • Squirrels says:

        Just because you dig a hole doesn’t mean you’ll come out in China at the end.

        All roads laced with malice end up in hell.

        (ok, I made that up, but still….)

      • MAMAZ says:

        It is awful that someone would do that to Ms. Chandler. Maybe I’m naive but I don’t believe it’s Jill Zarin or anyone of her friends.
        It might be one of her pyscho “fans” but I wouldn’t wish that kind of fan on anyone.Those kind of fans have a way of turning on a person. Mark David Chapman was a fan of John Lennons.
        Trolls love to make trouble. They have no loyalty and crazy computer skills. They don’t care which side they take and often play both sides of the fence.
        Jill Zarin needs to publicly denounce this kind of behavior. She should twitter her butt off and get her page 6 buddies to announce that she in no way endorses this kind of criminal activity. She should contact Ms. Chandler immediatley to let her know she has nothing to do with this and is appalled by it. She should be telling her fans that she doesn’t want or need this type of support. If she doesn’t then she is tacitly approving it. I hope she steps up.

      • Alana’s doing her part and we can support her as much as we can. Being harassed for posting an honest review especially when Jill’s camp sent Alana the book and asked for the review is beyond ridiculous and Jill should have put an end to it long ago!

        Jill needs to get a grip on these people! Does she really think they would take a rap for her?

      • Lulu's bare shoulder says:

        I hope Alana nails them for all of this crap. Unbelievable, and that “blog” is certainly not worth clicking. Vile, nasty crap about Alex and Simon this time, instead of you Lynn.

        palmer2007 and all of his/her other names are psycho.

  94. Waslurking says:

    I’m way late to the party……but WHY did Andy make a big announcement
    about D’s “friend” being a lesbian?
    He set it up right??

    • MAMAZ says:

      Because he’s a cross eyed, grinning idiot.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Ok that was mean. I’m sorry. But you know for all out talk about how awful the HW’s are Andy C is lining his pockets and not dealing with any of the fallout. He should be jackhole of the week.

        • Waslurking says:

          How do you really feel?
          I don’t watch him…….that shit eating grin of his
          gets on my last nerve.
          I caught clips of the ‘song’…… I don’t get why he
          made such a big deal about the chick being gay?
          Why introduce her that way?? Who friggin cares
          about her sexual preferance?

  95. KookADoodleDo says:

    AGAIN Jill having people in her bed….

    Me and my 13 13 yr old girls for swim pizza bonfire slumber party. All in my bed!! http://twitpic.com/1zcq9h
    about 2 hours ago via Twittelator

    • MAMAZ says:

      I don’t understand this. Who are these girls and why are they sharing a bed with Jill Zarin? When Michael Jackson did it the world, including me, was disturbed. Just as icky for JZ.
      Also reminds me of the movie where the blonde from Cheers was a Hollywood scout troop leader.

      • KookADoodleDo says:

        She is having a party for her niece.

      • BamaBelle says:

        I agree MamaZ… I was about to say something about Michael Jackson and the boys who shared his bed. I don’t think Jill is doing anything wrong, but it’s just plain STUPID to have 13-13 year olds in your bed and brag about it.

        This woman craves attention so bad she thinks everybody is interested in everything she does… who cares if she hosts a party for her niece.. they still don’t need to be in her bed! If one of my kids came home from Jill’s with a Ginger bite mark on them… I’d be pissed off!

  96. TLM says:

    Long interview with Bethenny from June 10. Among other topics, she says that “Jill is no longer in my life.” http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEgBymljsMozjn

    • Katiecoo says:

      This part was interesting:

      Jill is not part of your life but has she reached out to you at all during this time – made an attempt?

      Bethenny Frankel: No. Not this recent time. I mean of course I saw her at the reunion and there was that. And she has reached out a couple of times in the last couple of months. You know, there have been a lot of changes on the show. The show has kind of showed everything. But, you know, she’s not in my life anymore. And this is the time I really want people that are good for me and good for my family and like I want clean energy and everything to be happy. And I want Bryn to, you know, have it to be – her life to be perfect for as long as it possibly can.

      • Yes, Bethenny has a good head on her shoulders!

        • Waslurking says:

          Everything changes when you have child.
          It’s a whole different outlook……things that once
          seemed important, not so much anymore.
          Jill? …. it’s not out of spite that Beth wants
          nothing to do with her, it’s that her priorities
          have changed. Simple as that.

          • LynnNChicago says:

            I agree, its not just her priorites, but she explained that Bryn is “pure and perfect” and Bethenny wants it to remain that way as long as possible. I get that, she feels like there is true negative energy inside Jill Zarin. She has some backwards ideas about life and about romance and love, about everything. Its clear to me that Bethenny simply doesn’t want Jill’s influence and BS around her baby and I don’t blame her!

  97. Kelly-Has- Big-Shoulders says:

    OMG!! I have been caught up in World Co Furia ( Go USA & SPAIN) and I come check on Lynn thinking things are quiet over here . I find all this about the idntty theft of A.Chandler and some HubPages about Hating Alex. WHAT IS GOING ON???

    • Squirrels says:

      Well, we’ve seen it get ugly before. Now is no different when Jill’s rep is fresh on the line. Problem is, if she is in charge of this campaign, she should fire herself.

      Look folks, it does not take much to hunt someone down via the internet. Whatever you are up to you are doing your mentor no service here. There is a word. Defamation. This word is no joke.

      In this case we defamation in libel form. A legal determination, but nonetheless powerful. When you hijack a person’s professional persona, and by doing so, go on a rampage designed to defame said person, you invite a lawsuit into your home.

      Have a nice day.

      I’m so glad I paid attention in my journalism ethics class.

    • Squirrels says:

      Well, we’ve seen it get ugly before. Now is no different when Jill’s rep is fresh on the line. Problem is, if she is in charge of this campaign, she should fire herself.

      Look folks, it does not take much to hunt someone down via the internet. Whatever you are up to you are doing your mentor no service here. There is a word. Defamation. This word is no joke.

      In this case we have defamation in libel form. A legal determination, but nonetheless powerful. When you hijack a person’s professional persona, and by doing so, go on a rampage designed to defame said person, you invite a lawsuit into your home.

      Have a nice day.

      I’m so glad I paid attention in my journalism ethics class.

  98. Edinburger says:

    Okay so me being curious and bored, I watched the “preview” of Danielle’s sex tape. I only lasted a few minutes because it was utterly disgusting and it appalls me that she has done this to her kids. She should be ashamed of herself but I doubt she can feel any sort of emotion. Anyway, one thing that I (and others who were commenting on the video) noticed were her fake boobs pointed in opposite directions, the same way Kelly’s do. I guess they used the same surgeon. But jeez I would rather be flat chested than have boobs that looked like a crazy cartoon characters eyes.

    error404: Are we 100% sure that Kelly gave birth to those girls? Because I am convinced she is a man. I saw a picture of her in a bikini, and as Dlisted would say, it looked as though she had her “tuck game” going on. It reminds me of the Olympic runner last year who ran a girl, but they soon discovered she was male, or part male? I can’t remember.

    I saw a video of Luann performing her song at a club. Her poor kids must be so embarrassed- it could be worse she could have released a sex tape. The crowd were loving her though. I have had her darn song in my head for a week and it is driving me mad!

    I still haven’t seen Bethenny’s new show, if anyone has a link to it online for me to watch (I’m in the UK) I would be very grateful.

    • KookADoodleDo says:
    • LynnNChicago says:

      Hi Edinburger! My mother was born in Grangemouth, not too far from you, welcome! I think I saw you once or twice before. Are you able to go to Bravotv.com and watch episodes? I had heard that it is blocked for those who are out of the country. (I think I’ve heard some Canadians saying that) Some episodes are on Hulu.com but that may be the same as Bravotv.com?

      I hope you find a way to get to view Bethenny’s Getting Married, its a great show! thanks for coming, visit anytime!

    • dumberries says:

      I know LuAnn’s disco/Euro/spoken word gig is totally goofy, but it doesn’t bother me at all. I think it’s kinda cool that she’s doing something she likes and having a blast. Good to hear that she’s got an audience that’s getting into it. I don’t think I’d be embarrassed if I were her kids (well, no more than teenagers are embarrassed of their moms anyway). Her kids have met Kelly and Jill, remember? They know it could be much worse than mom playing songbird!

  99. BamaBelle says:

    “Work Of Art” comes on tonight after Top Chef. Has anybody else seen Nicole (LuAnn’s niece) on the show? She was in the top last week… I can’t wait to see how she does tonight. According to the previews there is going to be some kind of controversy.

    • I’ve seen Nicole on the show. He sculpture last week was ok. I like this show but haven’t seen enough of their work yet to have a favorite. 🙂

    • Quincy IL says:

      Her art was museum art. Not something that you want to dust in the living room. It was a burial inside a tv.

      I think she might be as talented as Luann suggested.

      • Lulu's bare shoulder says:

        I didn’t care for any of them, but of the bunch, hers was my favorite piece.

  100. Katiecoo says:

    Ok just catching up here from being out of town. Why am I not surprised that the nutty (and creeeeepy) Danielle finds Kelly and Jill “really sweet”. :::rolleyes::

    Can we just stick the 3 of them in a party boat and watch it….implode?

    • iceNfire says:

      That may be the only way to get rid of Jill.

    • Upper WestSide Dude says:

      What was creepy was that porn tape of Danielle posted on the termite’s web site this afternoon. NOTHING is left to the imagination. Fortunately the guy was wearing a condom. Now I ask you, as disturbing as Danielle may be, she must be doing something right with her children. They seem pretty normal and I hope they stay that way. I wonder how involved their father is…

      • Katiecoo says:

        Is it known who her, um….partner is? On the tape I mean.

        • Upper WestSide Dude says:

          I don’t think it is Steve. However, you only see his dangling participle so one can’t be sure.

  101. iceNfire says:

    Boston – Are you here?

  102. Scorpiosue says:

    From Simon about 30 minutes ago:


    Just spent the past 2 hours taping voice overs & doing still photography for an exciting new (potential TV) project.

    Interesting stuff.

    • Katiecoo says:

      Oooohhh how cryptic! Love it. I think Simon makes great TV.

      • dumberries says:

        Simon does make great tv, he’s so quirky and he seems to completely enjoy the whole process. His blogs were the only ones I read on Bravo.com. Really well-written and right on the money. He loves the gossip!

  103. boston02127 says:


  104. Barb says:

    Okay 2 things that I have found interesting today. Well 1 strangely interesting the other hysterically strange….

    1. Meth, crank etc use gummy bears, worms etc to ensure that they have no dope left in their teeth… Apparently dope (a lot of it) likes to hide in the teeth and these chewy candies ensure they get every bit of…. Strange no?

    2. All the dust up of whether or not Kelly will be back. Consider this Jill befriends Bethenny who has the most intense personality on the show. Them B becomes the break out star and Jill
    makes it seem that she is the only reason B is so well received. Did she not defend B with the rest? Did she not hang with B and comfort her when things were going bad with Jason? She was the friend, you know the kind, that it appears on the surface that they are there for you. Then you find out they actually were just around to see what they could get out of it. Is she not doing the same with Kelly? She’s just too far out there to realize she is repeating history. Jill’s pattern no?

    Hysterical part you finally ask? Let us say history will repeat with Jill… She damn near lost her mind when B got her own show… She absolutely lost all credibility and self respect. Can you see the epic melt down if Kelly gets her own show to spew her typical nonsense? Jill will never be able to come back from that type of devastation… Out done by the crack head cart wheeler? Hysterical!!!! They might as well post a watch now 😉

    • dumberries says:

      Lol..”crack head cartwheeler”.
      Interesting about gummy bear’s cleaning out the drug residue. Several bloggers mentioned after the meltdown episode that she couldn’t be on meth because her teeth would give her away. You might be on to something.

      • Barb says:

        Seen it on the show Intervention… The “user” laughed explaining it helped them get every little bit. They wanted to make sure they didn’t waste any.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Money and good dental care will take care of meth mouth. She probably has veneers covering all her teeth anyway.

  105. boston02127 says:

    iceNfire-I don’t think the blog is rolling. I’ll check back in a little while.

  106. CdnFillie says:

    LMAO…I think I just got my first block…on that other site that shall remain nameless..

    Gwen: Your last blog started with:

    Hello. My name is Gwen and I really DO NOT like Lynn Hudson or Alex McCord! If you have not read my prior blogs, allow me to explain. Lynn Hudson loves to use the word hate. I will not use the word HATE. I am not a negativity spreader.

    So I posted in her new blog

    • felony stupid says:

      dayam…and you seemed to be the only one that dipshit was allowing to post lol!

  107. Laura says:

    Great post as always Lynn!

    I actually fell asleep at the end of the NJ episode so I missed some of what happened and I keep debating on whether or not I should record it so I can see what I missed.

    I have a hard time giving up shows. I had watched Guiding Light on CBS for nearly 30 years and when things changed on there and fans were in an uproar over all the new changes, calling for a boycott of the show, Proctor and Gamble and CBS….I just couldn’t walk away. It was such a part of my daily routine, through all parts of my teenage and adult years, I couldn’t imagine a day going by without knowing what was going on in the fictional town of Springfield. Then…it was announced that it was being canceled and people CHEERED! They were so glad that the thing that they had come to hate, was going off the air.

    I cried. Silly I know…but did. Devastation.

    RHoNJ is nothing in comparison to GL…but its something I’ve watched since the beginning and I just can’t see it not being a part of my DVR life lol

    I actually think Danielle, although creepy as hell and I ain’t buying the whole “I’m a lesbian now” either (not that there is anything wrong with being a lesbian at all) , did a decent job of carrying a tune, compared to Countless and Kim from ATL….

    • BamaBelle says:


      I know what you mean about having a tv show become part of your routine and life. I was that way with “Knot’s Landing”… It was on for 16 years and I watched it from day one, every Thurday night at 9:00 pm cst.

      SoapNet started airing it several years ago and I watched the whole 16 years worth, AGAIN, everyday… over and over until they said they lost their license to air it and took it off their line-up. Oooohhh, it made me so mad… I LOVED that show… LOVED IT! I love “Desperate Housewives”, too. It’s like a modern day “Knot’s Landing”.

      Is there anybody here who is old enough to remember Knot’s Landing? Sorry, I know this was off topic.

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