I Hate Jill Zarin Top Chef / Work Of Art July 1, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                      Top Chef              July 1, 2010

 As we’re starting to get to know the chef’s better I have to say, there is some talent here but it doesn’t appear to be even close to the talent we had last year. 

 If these chefs are in the same category as Michael and Bryan from last season or have the passion of Kevin, Eli and Jen, we’re not seeing it yet, that’s for sure!  It typically does take time so I’m still reserving judgment on the skill level and passion for cooking. 

 It is difficult to watch this season and just enjoy it on its own merit without thinking about the amazing quality and talent of last year’s chefs but let’s give it a try.

 As an introduction to the upcoming show on Bravo, Top Chef Just Desserts, Gail Simmons, who will be the Padma of the new show, introduced the Quick Fire Challenge.  Prepare a pie from scratch in two hours.  If one person said it, at least 5 of them did, “I’m not a pastry chef”!  We KNOW!  None of you are pastry chefs and so you’re all in the same boat. 

 Do these cheftestants watch the show?  Every season there is a dessert challenge, so why not have a few in your head before you arrive to the competition? 

 Kenny wins the Quick fire with his Banana’s Foster pie, right behind him were Kelly and Stephen.  I said last week that Kenny was one to watch.  I think he’s going to be in the finale.

What is with this Amanda chick?  Why does she always feel the need to cook with alcohol?  Her attitude is very poor, she is clearly not a team player.  I get that this is a competition with just one winner but in order to be an outstanding chef, you have to work well with a team and be able to lead that team.  Last week she tried to throw others under the bus by going on and on about how bad peanut butter is for you while she had put a whole bottle of alcohol in a chicken dish to be served to children at school! 

Amanda was combative and insulting last week.  This week she pulled someone else’s food out of the oven and was screaming at Alex when Chef Tom walked into the kitchens to check up on everyone.  Chef Tom asked Amanda to explain herself she indicated that she had put her name on that oven.  In all the years that I’ve watched Top Chef, I’ve never seen or heard the chefs talking about saving an oven for their own use by putting their name on it.  Tom questioned whether that was the regular practice, it seemed like he wasn’t aware of this new rule.  It appears that Amanda made that rule up all on her own. 

 I know that Chef Tom has a huge impact on the final decisions of Top Chef.  The title of “head judge” is not an honorary title and we learned over past seasons that his influence is taken seriously by the producers and the other judges.  If there is a tie in the judges voting or if a decision cannot be made, Chef Tom has the final word. 

 No one is going to convince me that Tom Colicchio doesn’t keep mental notes on the behavior of these chefs in the kitchen, their nasty comments to one another and their attitudes.  While the food is clearly the number one factor, Chef Tom also knows the proper behavior required for a Top Chef. 

At this point in the game, Amanda’s attack at judges table and her ranting in the kitchen have to be stored in the back of Chef Tom’s mind.  Let’s see how that plays out. 

The Elimination Challenge was to prepare a meal for 150 Washington DC Interns on BBQ grills outside of Mt. Vernon.  The chefs were given $400 and 30 minutes to shop.  (why such a limited time to shop?   I never understood that part)  I was surprised by Tim’s comment that the men were working the BBQ grills with no problem and the women were struggling.  I’ve seen plenty of women prepare and cook on a BBQ grill, that was a sexist comment!  I’ll bet it was a female bird that pooped on his serving table!  Interesting that Tim was in the bottom four.  Tim had inconsistently cooked his vegetables so that some were raw and some were soggy, add to that the infamous “no flavor” complaint from the judges and Tim was toast! 

The bottom four, joining Tim were, Stephen, Tracy and Kevin.  I don’t know what the hell Tracy was doing, her plan was to make sausage from scratch.  Sounded like a decent idea for a BBQ grill but claiming she didn’t have time, she turned the sausages into “slider” hamburgers and then undercooked them.  Maybe had Tracy stopped talking to herself for a few minutes, she may have had time to prepare the dish as planned? 

Stephen’s dish sounded disgusting as described by the judges.  Fish wrapped in bacon could have been a solid dish but it would have to be cooked perfectly.   Greasy, undercooked bacon, is there anything worse?  In his attempt to get the bacon fully cooked, he overcooked and dried out his fish!  I’m no chef but I could have predicted that.  Why not pre-cook the bacon about half way, and then wrap it around the fish to put onto the BBQ?  This was one chef that I thought we’d see in the top more often, what a disappointment. 

Kevin disappointed the judges with his Puerto Rican steak meal with undercooked beans and under seasoned rice.  I’ve had this meal before and I have to agree with the judges, it was a meal prepared by hundreds of household cooks every day in their homes.  Gail told Kevin to “Step it up!” and I have to agree!  Not only does the food have to be outstanding in flavor and composition, but it has to be creative.    

Tracy Tracy Tracy, who cast this season?  I could interview her and in 10 minutes tell you that she is not Top Chef material.  Look at the poise and class that all of the previous winners of Top Chef possess.  Is Tracy in this same category as these others?  Her lack of confidence alone is reason enough not to cast her on the show.  There had to be better candidates out there!  Anyway, predictable as it was, Tracy is in the limo on her way to the loser’s condo. 

The top four chef’s included Ed, Amanda, Angelo and Arnold.  Chef Tom must have to buy a vowel from Pat Sajak because I think your name has to start with a vowel to win this season’s Top Chef. 

Angelo’s wish did not come true, he is not winning every single challenge but he is still making his presence known to the judges.  He was in the top four in the elimination challenge and I predict he will be in the finale as well.  Yes, he is cocky but he’s also confident and can back up his words. 

Did anyone else notice that Angelo helped Tracy out in the Quick Fire by letting her know that her pie was overcooking in the oven?  This is the type of behavior that we’ve seen from Top Chef Winner’s season after season.  Chef Tom pointed it out last season in the finale when Michael gave Kevin a heads up about something boiling over on the stove.  “That’s what Top Chef’s do!” 

Congratulations to this week’s Elimination Challenge winner, Arnold!   While Arnold seemed flustered in the kitchen when Chef Tom came in for a visit, the results were outstanding.  I never really understood why they do that to the chef’s.  They’re given a challenge and a limited amount of time to complete the challenge, yet they have to stop what they’re doing to chit chat with Chef Tom.   I guess it is fair since all the chefs are interrupted like that, but I don’t think it adds to the show and it only serves to fluster the chef’s.  Some more than others and clearly Arnold was flustered during the visit from Tom.  

Every season we see the same thing, the chef’s complaining about the challenges because, they’re not pastry chefs, they’re not comfortable with making desserts, they’re not used to the time constraints, they’re not used to the budget constraints, they’re used to cooking on different equipment, they’ve never used a BBQ grill, or gotten their ingredients out of a vending machine.

If you watch the show, you will see that these things are part of the challenges every season!  Every season we hear the same complaints.  I find it hard to believe that these contestants walk in without a clue about what types of challenges they will face.  When they say, “I’ve never done anything like this before” when asked to get their ingredients from a gas station.  Do they think the other contestants do that on a regular basis?  Of course you’ve never done it before!  That’s the point!

Who do you think are going to come out on top?  Who’s going home next week?  The preview for next week shows that some previous Top Chef contestants (like Bryan and Spike) will be judging.  I like to see old favorites coming back! 

 Until Next Time……

Thank you to Guest Blogger – Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs  on Work Of Art air date 6/30/10

Work of Art is a hot mess.  But in a good way.  

Tonight’s episode was supposed to be about SHOCKING Art.  Some of the artwork was SHOCKINGLY BAD…. But that wasn’t even surprising, much less SHOCKING..  The only SHOCKING event tonight was who went home and who stayed.
If anyone hasn’t watched the show and wants to catch up, you can watch Episode 1 on Bravo or Hulu.com.  This was the 3rd episode, and I haven’t found Episode 2 on the net (for free, anyway).  The Bravo site also has some interesting and insightful blogs by the judges and by the artists that have been sent home.  Simon de Pury wrote a great blog on how he sees his mentoring role and his relationship with the artists.
Tonight’s guest artist/judge was Andre Serrano, whose body of work has been about shocking people.  But his work is also beautiful and thought provoking, which I think many of the contestants saw but couldn’t emulate.
What surprised me was how the challenge was met – it was disturbing to me that so many of them saw SHOCKING as the equivalent of NAUGHTY, in a very childish way.  Penises!  Assholes! Boobies! Semen! – it was if the middle school art teacher was out smoking a cigarette and the class ran amok.
THE TOP TWO
Abdi deserved to win, and he did.  His sculpture, “I.E.D.“, the heads of three young black men as time bombs, was well executed and thought provoking.  It was political and it was disturbing with it‘s “potential for violence“..  (I only wish that he had it elevated to eye level, I didn’t really understand why it was on the floor – I think being eye to eye with the sculpture would have made it more confrontational.)
The biggest WTF moment for me was that Jaclyn not only was in the top two, but that she wasn’t sent home.  Jaclyn’s piece was a series of semi-nude self portraits and a box of sharpies – she invited those viewing the work to comment directly on the work.  Since this was entirely Erik’s idea (which she wouldn’t cop to), and the only thing interesting at all about the work, I think she should have been in the bottom 4.  The judges disagreed, believing that at least she heard a good idea and went along with it.   I disagree.  So far she seems to be in it for the exhibitionism of taking her top off in every episode.   Someone mumbled about the sexual politics of the piece, but I don’t think she has a political thought in her pretty little head.
THE BOTTOM FOUR
John was really disappointing, but he’s been pretty hit-or-miss in all three challenges.  His fixation with auto-fellatio was sort of funny, but his execution sucked (forgive the pun).  His cartoonish depiction of someone sucking their own dick was just bad.  The fact that he didn’t know how to spell fellatio was hysterical  – I can’t believe that he wrote Auto-FOLLATIO on the piece itself and presented it that way.  His work this week got him sent home.
Jamie Lynn’s depiction of the Last Supper was ridiculous and she should have gone home.  I have no idea why they kept her.  Her idea,  of Christ at the Last Supper surrounded by crooks and thieves and whores could have been a really evocative work, but looked like cartoon characters that should have been in Archie comics back in the day.  Her message, about hypocrisy and the Evangelical Right could have been a powerful one, but it didn’t come out in this piece at all.
On to Nao, the performance artist…. What can I say – her scatological rubbing of herself with a poop like substance while costumed in something plastic sitting in front of a cardboard teepee was just ridiculous.  Her costume had no context, her work seemed to have no discernable “message” or statement, and she couldn’t articulate anything that the judges or viewers could give it context.  Andre Serrano put it in context, by saying that it reminded him of a homeless person, someone we don’t want to see,  Had she articulated THAT message, she would have been safe.  Her inability to explain even herself was unfortunate for her.  She deserved the ticket home.
Erik was in the bottom 4, undeservedly in my opinion.  Yes, his depiction of a priest and a child in bed wasn’t as provocative as it could be, and the text “Sex Education” was a mistake.  (I actually think that, since he was insistent on putting text on the piece, like a poster, “Religious Education” would have  been more provocative.)   I’m glad he didn’t go home, although his “I’m an outside” banter is wearing a bit thin.
THE REST
Nicole, Luanne’s niece, is articulate and talented.  Her decapitated thumbs wasn’t particularly well executed, in my opinion,  but she is articulate and I enjoy her commentary on the others.
I wish they had shown more of Peregrine’s final work.  I didn’t really like it in the studio, but the final work, with the bloody faces on the high fashion illustration was impressive.
Miles confessing that his first erection was while watching Disney’s “The Little Mermaid” made me laugh out loud.  The translation to a line drawing of penises, vaginas and assholes in the shape of mouse ears (with REAL SEMEN) wasn’t very interesting.  (I did love it in the Studio when Simon de Pury admitted that his first erection was when observing a Renoir!)
Speaking of Simon, does anyone else expect him to say “Now Artist,s please don’t forget to use the Bluefly Accessory Wall” before he leaves the studio?  
Mark’s triptych depicting child sexual abuse wasn’t powerful enough, for me, but it got him safely to the next episode.  To date, we haven’t seen much of his personality or his point of view, but he seems to safely squeak by each week.
I liked Ryan’s work, the tranny bondage, cum covered photograph – it seemed derivative of Serrano’s work, but it was good enough to get him through.
I wish they didn’t call this “Work of Art: The Next Great Artist” –  “Work of Art: A Fun Competition to Watch” might be more apropos.
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439 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Top Chef / Work Of Art July 1, 2010

  1. Sick of the Trolls says:

    Thanks for the fresh page Lynn, how weird, since there really weren’t that many posts on the other one. Usually it takes more than double that number for the posts to start getting messy.

    Yikes, OK, bringing over this post from the old blog…which makes a 3 time post. I don’t want to bring this up on Amazon, since Alana is apparently trying to calm the waters, but I know several people here post there.

    Here it is for the LAST time.

    My post ended up somewhere strange, so I will try “reply” here to get it back at the bottom.

    Sorry for the double.

    I hope the “nice” routine Dr. Jennifer is pulling right now does NOT work, and that whomever was going to contact the real MD she was impersonating STILL DOES JUST THAT.

    Her actions yesterday were completely illegal, and defamatory to another person, the one she was claiming to be while she ranted and spit her venom all over Amazon.

    She needs to be held accountable, and I hope Alana is just playing nice, but carrying a BIG stick that is eventually slammed with force right up that troll’s patootie.

    Every single time that troll pulls the same crap. Crazy, nasty rants, then “nice” then crazy again. So be it, but don’t impersonate another living person while you do it.

    • viki55 says:

      Ya gotta give that troll credit though. He/she/it knows how to bait people and get responses. Even when it is obvious they are a little off people keep taking the bait.

      • I hope everybody ignores it from here on out. I’m wondering if Amazon closed J. Samples’ account due to the spamming, plagiarism of reviews, and defamatory reviews and posts and that is why he is hiding behind other fake identities. The troll Samples is obsessed and needs to be left to rant on his own. If he starts ranting again, Amazon can take care of him, again.

      • Sick of the Trolls says:

        I’d rather give a troll some time in jail and a hefty fine, and perhaps a smart judge might even make her/his probation contingent on no computer use for a year or two.

  2. kats2 says:

    It smells fresh and clean in here 🙂 Like Sweet Butter Beans

  3. viki55 says:

    Did the people who were gonna leave hang in there?

  4. Squirrels says:

    I insist on reposting this with a few additions. Not that I’m trying to get anything going, I just demand accolades. (Zarin taught me that).

    😀

    Zarin’s to do list – 7/1/10…

    Pick up Ally’s linen for her dorm room @ SAKS.
    (Set Google calendar reminder to return Ally’s linen after the semester is over).

    Yell at the maid to pick up Gingers poop. It’s all over the sofa.

    Head out to lunch with a camera crew in tow.
    (Find out where Paris Hilton is lunching).

    Twitter that I am lunching with Paris
    (Get photo of me leaning over her with a huge hug… do not allow the cameras to see I’m eating at another table with only my assistant… ugh.)
    (Pay for Paris and her guests’ lunch in hopes she doesn’t rat me out… she’s so dumb.)

    Have accountant send out donations to all trolls who support me.

    Review HW tapes in order to plan my ever changing strategy for keeping my rotten apple.

    Promise to meet Bawby for dinner.
    (Call Bawby around 6pm, say I’m running late. Would he mind meeting me at Chopards Jewelry? Dropping my watch of for repair… cough, cough)

    Order lamb chops for dinner.
    Tell the waiter the chops suck, please take them back and get me a salad and take it off the bill.
    (After dinner, head to the dumpster behind the Four Seasons and reclaim said lamb chops for Ginger.)

    Get home, crawl into bed with Bawby, Ginger, Ally, and anyone else who can help me attain my star on Hollywood Blvd.

    Send everyone out so I can thank Bawby personally for the bobble I got today.

    Watch Bawby snore.

    Quietly (so I don’t wake Bawby and get caught) check the rags for any unkind press.

    Plot my revenge.

  5. Anybody here yet? olly olly oxen free!!! LOL!

  6. Squirrels says:

    …..

  7. viki55 says:

    LOL

  8. LynnNChicago says:

    Thanks to everyone for letting me know what was going on, now I feel like I need to let all of you know what’s going on.

    First let me explain why the posts get crazy, when I’m forced to delete a post (which isn’t often thankfully) for some reason the posts all pop into the spot where the deleted post was, so they appear in the middle of the blog somewhere instead of at the end where they should go.

    Second let me explain that this particular “troll” has been blocked for a long time but continues to come up with new IP address’s and new names and comes back in to post. As with most trolls, they start out nice and apologetic and even suck up to some of the other posters, then they turn mean! Something clicks in their minds and they turn on people, they’re not reasonable and there is no discussing things with them because there is no consistancy. (as you probably all saw)

    And so the troll has been blocked again and I will be watching the site for any signs of trouble so hopefully you can all return to our previously scheduled programming…bashing Jill Zarin lol

    As always, discuss anything you like! 🙂 thanks again everyone!!!

    • Squirrels says:

      Hope we didn’t clog your twitter acct Lynn

      😀

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Thank you, Lynn!!!!

    • Thanks Lynn! I knew there was a logical explanation. Troll sounds just like J. Samples! LOL! But that’s what I now call any nice-to-out-of-control troll.

      The thing is, there will always be people like this who enjoys stirring up trouble and manipulating people. I’ve said in the previous post that I have always avoided being around people like this. Over the years, if someone like this joined in a group of friends, I’d avoid them whenever that person was around because i didn’t want to be around poison.

      That’s what really bothered me about the amazon troll yesterday. Too many were confronting and trying to reason with the troll and it was just rambling, attacking, lying, contradicting itself. Finally when it was being challenged regarding its identity, instead of leaving, it acted like a dog backed into the corner and fighting for its life. That’s obsession. It’s sick. It made me sick to see it. So I left, took a nap and returned to see that things had calmed by late afternoon.

      The thing is, I had seen the review early yesterday when the troll had set it up and the pen name was Jenna Redding. It was a pen name. I have a screen shot. Later, it was changed to real name Jennifer Redding. The review attacked A. Chandler’s review, belittled and insulted her rep, so I knew trouble was brewing, but said nothing and watched as the troll posted hour after hour strange rantings until Chandler awoke, saw the postings and responded.

      I hope people will leave it alone now. The person posting today is so vastly different. I would be very surprised if its the same person. I will no longer respond to that person because I know there is manipulation there.

      • Sick of the Trolls says:

        I don’t think the Amazon customers were feeding the troll. They were baiting it, and the rodent ran head-first into the trap, and proceeded to bury itself with more and more outlandish claims and identity fraud, googling away at that poor (REAL) MD’s past and posting it.

        • Point taken. I saw how the troll contradicted itself and it does give them more evidence against said troll to keep it posting.

          It was just too disturbing to me when it was backed in the corner and kept trying to defend itself with lies and attacks of its own. I couldn’t handle that any more, so I left. :\

    • So…did some “other” posts disappear? Accidently? Gulp. Or did you “disappear” them…as I had made a comment for your guest blogger who wrote on “Work of Art” and it’s gone? Because I finished my blog on a few Bravo shows, including “Art…” and the Housewives, and was going to mention it here…but if I’m kicked to the curb…sorry!

      Anyhow, I feel your pain with the trolls, Lynn. It’s the downside of Internet success. Who knew there are so many wingnuts out there?

  9. Squirrels says:

    I would like to address an off topic tweet I found amusing.

    NaughtyNiceRob

    Our ears probably aren’t ready for this…. Kate Gosselin wants to release a Christmas album!! http://bit.ly/cZ0yi3

    I’d also like to repeat this one re: Beth’s show tonight. I loved the clip.
    Bethenny

    Bethenny
    and of course sneak peek at tonight’s ep of BGM? http://ow.ly/25OBY it’s a good episode tonight – make sure to watch!

    Back to the topics at hand… woo hoo !!!!

  10. Char212 says:

    I’m here and I’m sure the others will come back as well. I hope anyway.

  11. Sick of the Trolls says:

    I hope they ignore the “doctor” on Amazon too, at least there. What I also hope is that the poster contacting the person he/she/it was impersonating still does that, and sends the screen caps as well.

    I want he/she/it arrested, and the crap she posted, posing as a real-life MD, should do that.

  12. Bravo fan says:

    Hi Everyone,
    Did u guys see Jill’s facebook today? Jill asks -” Do you want to see me hit a golf ball?”
    Well the majoritey of the comments are negative and say how can Jill still be so self centered. I don’t think I have never seen that many negative comments posted on her page. WOW! She is just not going to change.

    • Sick of the Trolls says:

      I want to see her hit it, if she places it right between her eyes first.

      • Squirrels says:

        May I tee up? I don’t shoot far, but I’m pretty dead on straight !!!!

        <<< envisions Zarin at the 150yd flag on the driving range.

        I'll even photog the bruise between her eyes.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        You read my mind…. was going to say the back of the head, but yours is better

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      That was a fun little read seeing everyone say, NO! Also like the ones that say, Do you want to watch me find a 75-year-old vet a job, or how about you go help in a soup kitchen.

      Love it.

      • Bravo fan says:

        Some of the comments were so funny. In the Examiner today, Jills all of a sudden says she will come back to RHONY. But you guys have to see the comments. All of them say they don’t want her back.HA HA HA. No one standing up for her! I left my own comment as well. I hope Bravo sees it.

    • Wow! LOL! I’m actually in shock. 😮 Really.

    • dancekrazy says:

      Okay, I want to know where the hell Zarin got that b/w photo of herself on her twitter site?
      It looks like it’s over 20 years old, was changed from color to b/w (which is always more flattering), and looks “photoshopped” enough to have used tons of ink cartridges decreasing the size of her lower face, enlarging her eyes, etc.
      IT’S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ZARIN LOOKED THAT GOOD AT ANY TIME IN HER LIFE…….DEFINITELY A GREAT PHOTOSHOP JOB.
      Let’s face it. She just is not an attractive woman, which I suspect comes from the duplicity and envy inside of her (which just has to show on the outside). And especially now with the miserable puss on her face any time the camera isn’t on her promoting her, or the mike isn’t in front of her face promoting her, or she has to talk about Alex or even Bethenny (making them evil and herself the poor victim). Oh, I cannot stomach that woman!
      As I commented last night, this past season with her overacting, she reminded me so much of the last scene of “GRAND HOTEL”, when Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson) goes crazy and says, ” I’m ready for my close up, Mr. De Mille.
      THANK YOU FOR STILL LETTING US POST OUR “CAN’T STOMACH JILL ZARIN” COMMENTS HERE, LYNN.
      Susan

      • Kokuanani says:

        That’s Sunset Boulevard, not Grand Hotel that has the “I’m ready for my close-up now, Mr. DeMille” line.

  13. bamabelle57 says:

    OK! Now I understand what was going on! I will not feed THE TROLL again… sorry!

  14. bamabelle57 says:

    This is off-topic… are any of you old enough to have watched Knots Landing when it orginally aired in 1978 or 79 and ran until I think 1991 or 92? SoapNet re-aired the whole series several years ago, did anybody see it then?

    • Squirrels says:

      I’m in the age bracket, but never watched the orig series. I was busy with my own boy toys.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I used to LOVE Knots Landing, of course I was WAY too young to watch that kind of tv (hehehe) I haven’t watched it again since it originally aired, I imagine it would seem to be tame now with some of the new shows that are on, hell even some reality shows are wilder than KL 🙂 (was in love with Val’s hubby, the Ewing guy, can’t remember his name)

        • Adgirl says:

          I LOVED KL. Too bad they never put it on DVD. I’ve tried to find it. I want to watch Abby snatch Gary away from Valene again! Broke my heart.

      • bamabelle57 says:

        It was Gary Ewing… she was married to Greg Sumner, too. SoapNet ran it several years ago from the beginning to end quite a few times, then pulled it. Everybody was MAD, including me. I watched the whole series which ran for 16 years, I think. Oh yeah, it’s tame now but it wasn’t for it’s time… LOL!

        They had a reunion a few years ago and said they were the original “Desperate Housewives”… they were! I loved that show-loved it!

    • error 404 says:

      Get out.. KL ran for over 12 years?!?! I’m incredulous.

      I disliked Dallas, and don’t think I ever made it thru more than 10 minutes of KL.

      I much preferred Dynasty and Falcon’s Crest, don’t ask me why.

      • error 404 says:

        This may should weird, but I think KL was set in a very RHOC type McMansion gated community which really turned me off as tacky. At least South Fork was a ranch, but it wasn’t until Dynasty that I though “Finally, rich people who actually live in a mansion!” . I guess I was spoiled by Newport. lol

        • bamabelle57 says:

          LOL… you’re sort of right. They did live in Southern California, but it wasn’t a gated community-some of the main characters lived on a cul-de-sac.

          When the character of Greg Sumner came on board-he was super rich with a sprawling ranch.

          Error, you didn’t give it a chance… LOL!

      • bamabelle57 says:

        Error,

        I didn’t get into Dallas either. Knots Landing was much better… you had to get through the first couple of years. In the third season it started to get really good. I did watch Dynasty and some of Falcon Crest, too.

        • 2Stupid says:

          Oh my gosh, Abby was the Erica Kane of night soaps. I think she was one of the best characters ever! She wasn’t on until about the third season, but Heather Locklear so ripped her off on Melrose!

          • Squirrels says:

            Don’t knock Erica Kane….

            She finally won an emmy !!!!

            (ok, so 100 or so seasons it took to get it but, wth?)

    • krone says:

      I saw Knot’s Bama. I used to watch it way back when it originally aired & loved it then,- can’t imagine watching it now. I remember loving/hating Donna Mills (Abby? I think)
      Lynne, I agree with everything you said about Top Chef; it’s like you were reading my mind right down to Amanda’s crappy attitude. The only person I may see a bit differently is Arnold and that’s because I’m still holding a grudge about the pissy way he spoke to Kelly last week and I was only half listening so I could be way off on that one. I also agree that the caliber of chef/cooks is waaaaaay off from last year’s. Early picks are Kenny, Angelo and Kelly but don’t feel like I know them at all yet.
      I really enjoyed The take on Work of Art and again, completely agree. Looks like they’re building to a little romance between Nicole and Miles. When listening to Serrano there was a track playing in my head of Krazy kelly saying how Giles was “the best photographer in the world” and wondering if she’d even heard of Andre Serrano. Doubt it! LOVED Abdi and agree that it would have worked better for me had it been on a table. think Erik will be around for a while and think they should have sent the narcissistic nude gal home. Didn’t she do herself on the bookcover last week as well?
      Sounds like I missed the fun at Amazon? I’ve never witnessed Amazon-gate myself but have read about it.
      Squirrels, love your Jill’s to do list!! Thanks Lynne, great place to come; I’ve lurked a bit but feel that there are kindred souls here and thanks for a providing a place to meet with everyone. (I just can’t handle the character limit on Twitter)

      • vilzvet says:

        I definitely watched Knots! We all watched it religiously. I liked it WAY better than the competition, Dynasty. The acting was just way more realistic. The only seasons available so far are Seasons 1 and 2, that’s it. Got them through Blockbuster last year. It’s taking a lonnggg time to get to the meatier later seasons.

      • Squirrels says:

        “I really enjoyed The take on Work of Art and again, completely agree. Looks like they’re building to a little romance between Nicole and Miles.”

        Great, now they can use his sperm for dual purpose?

    • Cheri says:

      Some of them. I have the 2 seasons they put out on DVD wish they’d do the rest if the series. I’m also collecting the Dallas series

  15. Zee says:

    Is it safe to get back in the water? (appyling shark repellent liberally)

  16. bamabelle57 says:

    LOL Zee… I think it’s safe now!

    • Zee says:

      And I thought balancing the checkbook and payin my bills was scary and intimidating.

      • dancekrazy says:

        Hi, Squirrels
        I don’t know about Nicole and Miles getting anything going…. he’s a little cookoo, I think. She seems normal, so far.
        Any opinion as to Miles’ putting a shot of “sweet, sweet love” on his Mickey Mouse drawing?
        I think that Nicole has just skated by, not in the top, nor in the bottom…..in fact I don’t remember her work at all….any of it, come to think of it. That’s not good, she’s unremarkable.
        Susan

        P.S. I enjoy your comments alot, thanks.

  17. viki55 says:

    Please don’t anyone take offense but I have to ask this……
    Lynn, is otaypanky offically a troll now? And will this person be blocked when they are discovered posting here again?
    I hate that some feel they have to leave your site. Perhaps if they could just hang on knowing you will address the problem it might help.
    So many of us here hate watching the personal attacks.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Well, I don’t know the official definition of a troll. Typically people who come in and call us all losers and tell us Jill Zarin is the best person in the world are called Trolls.

      This particular person is not attacking because she disagrees with people’s feelings about Jill Zarin, she just doesn’t play well with others. I have seen her come on and immediately go in for the attack, then I have seen her play nice for several days….thats what I mean by no consistancy. I have been blocking her IP address’s as soon as I realize who she is, the trouble is she comes in with different names and different IP addresses to get around the web site’s blocking tools.

      Some people call THAT a troll, when you’re blocked from a site, creating another name with a new IP address then harassing people is sometimes referred to as a troll.

      You can call her whatever you like, the fact is that I am making every attempt to keep her off the site, she has already broken my one rule many, many times! Just know it is NOT my desire to allow her to post here and that I will do everything that I can to maintain the pleasant discussion on this site. That means blocking her if I see her again.

      I hope that answers your question. (I hate the personal attacks too! believe me!)

      • viki55 says:

        Thanks so much Lynn, for all you do here. I hope those attacked will read all this and come back knowing how strongly you are watching out for them. Thanks again for this great place to visit!

      • JazzNightOut says:

        What I have learned from this is to trust Lynn; she is doing her job in every way she can ~ from writing great blogs to creating a safe place for us to share our opinions on many Bravo and non-Bravo shows, and, of course, the pathetic Jill Zarin. Should this happen again, I will just wait until Lynn can get here to take out the trash. Thank you again, Lynn, for all that you do.

      • krone says:

        I guess I misunderstood. I thought you guys were talking abt Amazon but sounds like it happened here. Glad I arrived late;p

        • LynnNChicago says:

          LOL Not to worry, you didn’t miss a thing! You’re here just in time for the fun! 🙂

          • krone says:

            I have to ask: were Alex and Simon as much fun as I think they are? I remember reading that you met with them in Chicago. I can’t believe it now, but I didn’t care much for Alex in the 1st season and Simon drove me crazy!!! They’re my favorites now and what used to drive me crazy, makes me laugh and love them more now. Time sure does change perspective. Are they as in love as they seem to be? I was so touched by their expressions and gestures during Ramona’s vows.

            • LynnNChicago says:

              They really are! They are funny together especially. Remember the scene at Ramona’s vow renewal when Simon was babbling and Alex had to put her hand over his mouth to shut him up….that is how they are together, really funny.

              However, my mission was to split them up at the cocktail party and question them to get the real scoop. The entire blog about that night is here…

              https://lynnnchicago101.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/i-hate-jill-zarin-i-love-alex-simon-june-6-2010/

              • krone says:

                oh thanks so much!! I remember every move they made at Ramona’s vows renewal; I was so impressed with how genuine they were (and funny) I wish they’d come to Maine,- we do have book stores here but so far, no luck. If Bravo caves to Zarin’s ultimatum re dropping Alex, I’m boycotting Bravo for good!! I wonder if we should start planning for that possibility? Think Andy/Bravo is stupid enough to do that?

              • Squirrels says:

                I LOVE MAINE. ‘cept for the flys. size of housecats man…

  18. Squirrels says:

    Look…. this site will always have trolls. No way around it. I think what I have learned, since this is the first time I’ve been exposed to this kind of off the wall thinking, is …..

    while most times we accept people because we want to believe in inherent goodness, we open ourselves to being scammed.

    Lesson? Sit back, keep your mind and heart open. Pay attention to your radar and sit back again. If you get stung, remove the stinger and know you’ve sent that hornet to it’s death. No need to stomp on it. It’s gonna die all on its own.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      VERY well said, thank you!

      • Squirrels says:

        yw.. NOW will you blog Kathy’s D List?

        LOLOL

        I’m in Zarin mode… tee hee

        • LynnNChicago says:

          You are too funny! I love Kathy Griffin! I could watch her all day long, she is hysterical! I would feel so inadequate trying to blog about her, its like trying to out-snark the Queen Snarker!

        • Adios Lunatic says:

          Please, please, please on the D-List? I can’t help myself, I love it!

          • anitabee says:

            I second that. I have seen Kathy G’s show live every year when she comes to Chicago for the last 6 years.

            Luvvvvvvvvvvv her!

      • dancekrazy says:

        Lynn,

        I’m relatively new to the website: What is a troll?
        I love this website and need to keep up with the things I may have missed.
        Also, I broke your rule, but I CAN’T STOMACH JILL ZARIN, and, yes, that is personal LOL

        Susan

    • kats2 says:

      I didn’t know Squirrels knew so much insects. See I learned something new here all the time.

      • Squirrels says:

        lol…. I still have a bumble bee sting scar on my ankle from when I was six…. I was sitting at the edge of my neighbor’s driveway, minding my own biz. Didn’t even notice it crawling up my foot. The sting hit me like lightening. After which, I stomped on that mo fo until it was dust.

    • Agree! Very well said Squirrels!

      Also, never take a troll’s word on something–find out for yourself!

  19. A Lynn Fan says:

    I am a lurker who has been obsessed over Lynn’s blog and also the Amazon dispute. I can’t sit by anymore so I thought “what the heck”, what is the worst that is going to happen to me. Get slapped around for my opinions??? Lynn, I love the blog and all the opinions of those that I agree with! lol! I love Bethanny, Alex, Simon, Ramonacoaster, Mario and Sonja…..I HATE JILL ZARIN!!!
    Thanks everyone! 🙂

  20. boston02127 says:

    peeking in…..safe?

  21. lillybee says:

    Has anyone noticed that Kelly on TopChef resembles LuLU?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      aww dont say that, now I’m going to see LuLu everytime I watch Top Chef! One of the reasons I love TC is it is a Housewife free zone LOL

      • krone says:

        Wahhhhhh Lillybee, Kelly was one of my picks! I kept thinking she looked like Roseanne’s sister Jackie on “Roseanne”

  22. Bravo fan says:

    Check out the comments on this article from the Examiner. It says Jill will come back to RHONY. All the comments say they don’t want her back, myself included. Feel free to leave you comment as well.
    http://www.examiner.com/x-52611-TV-Examiner~y2010m6d30-The-Real-Housewives-of-New-York-City-will-reportedly-keep-Jill-Zarin-for-season-4

    • TraceyK says:

      Jill saying she would come back and being asked back are two different things!

    • error 404 says:

      OK, am I the only one getting increasingly annoyed with online ‘journalists” outright lies?

      1. Zarin says she’s not sure if she wants to come back, maybe yes, maybe no. At any rate, Bravo hasn’t asked her or anyone else yet.

      A clearly stated fact that a small child can understand.

      2. So, one rocket scientist decides to write a whole article with the headline “Zarin WON’T be back for season 4!”

      3. Another rocket scientist writes the same exact article with the same exact Zarin quotes, but decides to title it ‘Zarin WILL be back for season 4!”

      WTF, and I really the only person left in America that can read?

      • Squirrels says:

        That is a perfect description of blogger vs. journalist. What you describe is blogging, but you, like many others lump it under the journalism umbrella. It most certainly is NOT.

        Journalism demands confirmation on ANY story. Bloggers get to intimate without proof. Even when I worked stupid local business beats, I wouldn’t take what a biz owner who was looking for publicity told me at face value. If I couldn’t confirm it? It didn’t make it to print.

        To be honest, those gigs were soooo dull, I rarely bothered to look for “we’ve grown 200% this year” confirmations. Yeah yeah, but your parking lot is still empty. WTF?

        I’m jaded in that respect.

        I suppose this is why I so fiercely defend Ms. Chandler and Lynn.

        • Squirrels says:

          I’m sorry, I should not have said –
          “you, like many lump…”.
          Should have read –
          “too many lump….” I was not looking to get personal.

          scuse please.

        • Agree Squirrels. Reviews and opinion and most blogging is totally different than journalism. While everything should be based in truth, the former can give their twist on matters while the latter should be based on facts.

        • error 404 says:

          you confuse me.

          Had the article been written on a site called “Betty blogs from her kitchen table while unemployed” then I’d agree with you 100%.

          But it was from examainer.com, an online journal. This should not be dismissed or forgiven as “oh, she’s just a blogger”.

          Now, if your point is that the article was a blog marquerading as a pice of journalism, then we’re on the same page.

          Some people, like Lynn blog very well, so it’s kinda insulting to call poor journalism a blog, that’s why I call it what it is, poor journalism. Unprofessional and poorly written.

          • error 404 says:

            or maybe i’m just confused.

          • Squirrels says:

            no… the diff to me is… and i’m old school, is there is no place for you to respond online if you are reporting. you can have an email addy to field questions, interest, and bitching, but NO WAY A JOURNALIST IS GOING TO SET THEMSELVES UP FOR BS COMMENTS.

            They report. PERIOD. They confirm their stories. PERIOD. The editor accepts or rejects said stories. PERIOD. If anything, blogs are extensions of the editorial page, where in the past, more leeway was given, but factual reporting was mandatory. If it was rumor, even Hedda Hopper types have to acknowledge that.

            • error 404 says:

              good tip.

              to me, sites like this one look like blogs and don’t pretend to be anything else.

              examiner.com adopts the appearance of a journal. I find it confusing.

          • Squirrels says:

            I have said it repeatedly, it is why I stay around here. Clearly, journalism ethics exist on THIS blogger’s site.

            Please do not put words in my mouth.

            • error 404 says:

              I didn’t man to, sorry if it came out that way.

              I was just stressing that there are good bloggers and bad blogger, good journalists and bad journalists. On thatI feel we agree. 🙂

              • Squirrels says:

                Thanks. No offense taken. What I was desperately trying to get across is while journalism ethics isn’t black and white, that grey area is very close to crashing onto the shoal, and has been so for generations.

                Now days? Blogging makes it all that much harder to sift through fact vs. conjecture.

                Ugh… I’m soooo jaded. I admit it and fall to the mercy of the court. (just try to keep Andy Cohen off my jury. tyvm)

                😀

      • Right on, Error! If it’s speculation, say so in the body of the article. Irresponsible to use it as a proclamation in the headlines. Yellow journalism.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Isn’t it funny how two different news outlets can take Zarin’s comment and run in opposite directions with it. One took it as she was saying she WOULD return, the other took it as she would NOT return.

      Don’t either of them realize it isn’t her decision? Bravo makes the call!

    • ches says:

      Wow, look at the body language in the photo.

  23. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Did the whole previous page of comments disappear or is that just on my end?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Nope, its not an illusion 🙂 its all gone! sorry!

    • bamabelle57 says:

      Duchess,

      They’re gone. Lynn had to wipe them out because of the Troll. I was right in the middle of posting to Olivia when-poof… everything was gone. I couldn’t refresh either. I went back to favorites and started over then realized the Troll was blocked and Lynn explains above why she had to start a new page.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        It’s cool. I just occasionally need to confirm the hamster is running at full speed on the wheel!

  24. Sick of the Trolls says:

    I wish Luann would blog Work of Art. We might get some interesting inside dish.

    Then again, Lulu’s blogs suck, so…nevermind.

    Alex should blog it! Or Simon! Someone should tweet them and suggest it.

    • bamabelle57 says:

      Sick of the Trolls…

      The only thing I found interesting about last nights episode of Work Of Art was that Nicole has a twin… I didn’t know that. We’ve seen LuAnn with Nicole several times on RHONY, but not with her twin… or I haven’t anyway.

      • error 404 says:

        Lulu mentions that Nicole is a twin several times on RHNY.

        I found Nicole’s comment about “competition” interesting, because Kelly is a twin and her insane competitive obsession with Bethenny is odd.

        Of course, the one thing that Kiki did say about being a twin, is the weirdly nonsensical “when you’re a twin, the boy always gets all of the attention!” like it was a widely accepted fact.

        • kats2 says:

          err is Kelly a twin?

          • viki55 says:

            She has a twin brother, a lawyer, don’t know if he is nuts though.

            • Squirrels says:

              Doubt he’s nutz since thus far he’s avoided any bit of press regarding his illustrious, effervescent, all that man-sister.

        • bamabelle57 says:

          Error,

          I never heard LuAnn say Nicole has a twin. That proves how much attention I pay to her… LOL!

          But, Kelly… I did hear something about her being a twin on this site (don’t pay much attention to want she says, either)… can somebody refresh my very bad memory?

          Does Kelly have a twin brother? Was that him in the picture of her running with that man with long hair at the beach?

      • Quincy IL says:

        Were the two niece at the fireside chat with Luann, Kelly and Max the twins? Luann called them nieces, but I bet they were double trouble nieces.

        • dickens says:

          That’s what I thought. LuAnn was with her twin nieces with Kelly when Max happened along. That what the time LuAnn asked Kelly what she did to let her hair down…. Priceless!

  25. LynnNChicago says:

    Danielle Staub Hopes Costar’s Daughter Will ‘Take the High Road’ :http://bit.ly/dnSLv8

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I SO Love how Bethenny never holds back, she’s asked a question, she answers it, no beating around the bush!!! Love Bethenny!!!

    • bamabelle57 says:

      Oh Good Grief!… I bet Bethenny’s so sick of hearing the name Jill Zarin. Of course she doesn’t want her baby around that woman… who would. I believe Bethenny has forgiven Jill while making it clear she doesn’t wish to continue the friendship. How could she EVER trust that woman again?

      I’ll be back later… I’ve been at this computer too long. The housework is piling up and we’re having a 4th of July BBQ on Sunday… I’ve got to get into gear!

    • error 404 says:

      “There were little signals [prior to filming the reunion] that I got from her that she was warming up to talking to me,” Jill told us on June 16 exclusively. But, “obviously I read that wrong!”

      Uh, ya think?!

      Jill is the epitomy of “you give her an inch and she takes a yard!”

      • 2Stupid says:

        Also the part that they heard on good authority that Jill did the right thing and sent a gift. It is just as Bethenny says, Jill can’t do anything without leaking it to the press. Why cant you give a gift privately and it may be seen as sincere.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        To Jill those “little signals” were the fact that Bethenny had not asked a court for a restraining order.

        JZ is full of it and just spinning shit, as usual. Wasn’t it just after the reunion was filmed that she was spinning to media that her relationship with B had improved? And then when the reunion was aired we saw that wasn’t the case and Jill’s claim was also refuted by B.

        • Maddiegirl says:

          IMO, Bethenny was acting like a civil human being and Jill thought that all was forgiven. With Jill, it seems like you are either enemies or friends. There is no middle ground. That hug at the reunion was ridiculous. Bethenny was put on the spot; how could she say no. I felt so bad for B.

          I think B. should forgive Jill and move on without her. Grudges aren’t healthy, as Jill demonstrated.

          • Squirrels says:

            Agreed. B took the high road. She just wanted to get out of there. Zarin just wanted to get out alive.

          • Need a Hobby says:

            I don’t think B is holding a grudge & for her it’s not even a matter of forgiveness. Holding grudges require an emotional investment and B is no longer emotionally invested. Shit happened and it’s over and done. The parade has moved on and Jill’s is irrelevant and immaterial at this point.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Wonder what those little signals were, her ignoring her on Twitter and Facebook? (even while Jill continued to bring up Bethenny’s name)

        • error 404 says:

          B went from barely even looking at Jill on St John’s to allowing Jill to hug her at the vow renewal. It was a definite thaw. But we’re all smart enough to know it just meant B won’t spit on her if she happens to see her on the street. Jill somehow thinks it meant pop in any time for coffee.

          • Need a Hobby says:

            You just know B went home from the reunion and took a long shower to scrub off the major ick that hug must have created.

            The horror, the horror…..

    • kats2 says:

      While I belive this to be true, I would be disappointed in Bethenny if she actually gave this quote. I mean it’s so easy to make a comment like this up to have a story or filler. It’s silly. Why would any parent who is not getting along with a friend have them babysit their kid? Next it will be “Bethenny won’t let Jill change her baby’s diaper or feed her baby, or burp the baby.”

      I hope Bethenny has moved on and is not even commenting on Jill any more. That of all things is the best punishment for JZ.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        The article didn’t quote Bethenny saying that she won’t let Jill babysit. Obvously that is a headline to draw attention. I think Bethenny is trying to drive home her point about how much Jason dislikes Jill. Saying Jason isn’t fond of any connection to the “housewives” was (to me) saying Jason doesn’t like Jill, well we knew that because Bethenny said it on the reunion.

        Jason seemed to get along fine with Alex, Simon, Ramona and Mario in the scene from the lost footage episode.

        No?

        • kats2 says:

          No you’re right, but I still think Bethenny should just stay away from all Jill discussions and comments. It just feeds the PR machine.

          • LynnNChicago says:

            That would be ideal. I wish these reporters would leave her alone but there is no way that they will, its a story that just won’t die. In order to stay away from Jill discussions, she’d have to stay away from all press and she still needs them to sell her products and her show.

            If B says, “I don’t want to talk about Jill” then that will be the story. yanno? She can’t win.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Bonnie Fuller is one of those in the media who JZ has been cultivating. (Evidently a mutual admiration society from past tweets, IRC. Bonnie just loved J’s book, for ex.) So not surprising to see a certain Z spin on Zarin/Frankel stories appearing on Fuller’s site.

          Does anyone doubt that their anonymous inside “source” that told them J did the “right thing” and sent B a baby gift is the Jillster herself? Transparent and not “news” since Jill had already publicly talked about sending a baby gift…in fact around the time of Bryn’s birth if not shortly afterwards, JZ just “happened” to have herself photographed holding a onesie at some store opening with the supplied narrative that she was picking up gifts. JZ’s a subtle as a jackhammer.

          The article also refers to B’s feud with J. When did Bethenny “feud” with JZ? She didn’t. She tried to retain the friendship J repeatedly said was “done.” Jill said she cut B out of her life “like a cancer.” Jill had a feud, B didn’t. B just accepted that the friendship was over and moved on.

          But J and her media friends spin it to make it look like there was a feud on both their parts and now it’s up to B to mend something that’s been over since last year.

          (Just a mini rant. lol)

          • LynnNChicago says:

            Mini-rant understood! 🙂 rant anytime! I didn’t really take it as all that negative toward Bethenny, seemed like another little “dig” at Jill from Bethenny though 🙂 We all know that Bethenny can say, “no comment” or “I’d rather not talk about that” but the fact that she commented says she either wanted to “dig” Jill or she wanted to ensure that the article hit the web (and possibly People mag)

            • LynnNChicago says:

              (taking smiley face keys away from myself)

            • error 404 says:

              I think both article, which repeated refer to Zarin as “poor JIll”, are strongly biased.

              Even this little tid bit of misinformation is oddly similar to Jill’s reasning on why Bethanny should have know Jill ignoring her was a cry for help. “Unfortunately, Bethenny still holds it against Jill that she wasn’t a part of her life during the past monumental year (Bethenny got married and had a baby.)”

              Yeah, right. Like us all, Frankel just up and forgave Zarin single handedly trying to ruin her career. She then holds a grudge against Zarin for not being at things that she herself barred Zarin form. Sorry, only Jill could come up with that twisted logic. To the rest of the world, it’s nonsense.

          • error 404 says:

            you took the word right out of my mouth.

            it behooves “poor Jill” to be the prodigal son, and who else is going around town talking their head off right now? This is like the 14 Jill mention in like the last 12 hours.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        From reading the article, I got the impression that the writer was quoting from various places to make up the story. In other words, taking Bethenny’s words out of context and creating a new version of the Bethenny/Jill saga. I think Bethenny has truly forgiven Jill for her own sake and her own peace of mind. I don’t think that means that Bethenny trusts Jill or has forgotten the hurt Jill caused her. But continuing the story sells so someone refashioned words to fit a new take on it.

      • Bethenny had already said this during the reunion, I believe it was, that she wanted to keep Bryn surround by only positive or pure things. I was glad to hear it too as that would mean no access to Jill.

        The question of asking Bethenny if Jill would babysit is silly though. Some of these reporters aren’t very original in their questions and just bring up the same old things.

        There are still people commenting to jill that they hope she and Bethenny will be friends again. Good grief! It’s been almost a year now! Who would want a snake in the grass for a friend anyway let alone let them near her baby.

        I’m sure Bethenny has moved on and probably brings up jill only in response to a question. Bethenny has so much going on that jill is probably not even a fleeting though any more.
        🙂

  26. Squirrels says:

    OK… one more time since all of you seem to have breezed by it…. tonight’s preview of BGM?

    Bethenny

    and of course sneak peek at tonight’s ep of BGM? http://ow.ly/25OBY it’s a good episode tonight – make sure to watch!

    • I’ll be watching! I love the show! The funniest comment for me so far is Max’s “People of your generation–do they grind?” or something to that effect, asked of Bethenny. LOL! Yeah, when I was Max’s age, I thought people around 40 and up were pretty old. Now, to me, 90 seems old! LOL!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      That looked like a funny scene in the previews on Bravo, but watching a few more minutes of it in this link, it really was a pretty significant moment. Looking forward to the episode tonight!

    • kats2 says:

      This sneak peek makes me shocked that she didn’t have the baby even sooner. She gets so upset it freaks me out, I thought for sure something bad would happen.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Doesn’t it make you wish that Jason would have gotten up off the couch and put his arms around her to calm her? Telling someone who is freaking out that they’re freaking out doesn’t help.

        Sort of like screaming and shaking someone yelling “calm down”

        • kats2 says:

          YES! Totally agree. Because she hit a wall in that scene. It’s his wedding too , regardless if he wanted all the extras. Just hug her and discuss the menu dam it!

        • Squirrels says:

          Actually, hugging me would not have helped. I would demand action still. I think Jason, standing his ground with the what is important question is very telling as to why these two get along. He puts up with allot, but doesn’t get mired down in it. It allows B the opportunity to stress outwardly, then see the big picture.

          That is my hope at any rate.

    • Squirrels says:

      Whew…. 3rd times the charm. lol

    • It’s a wonder–39 yo, first baby, at-risk pregnancy, pregnancy news leaked, attacked by LuAnn, father’s death, wedding plans, getting used to having someone else around all the time (and his friends), working…, having been attacked by Kelly on the VI trip, Jill’s shit…

      It’s a miracle little Bryn was born healthy (as healthy as a preemie can be) though a month early as there were so many factors working against that happening.

    • Zee says:

      Saw the snippet of where B is trying to ‘relax’ to go pee in the bucket with the wedding dress on… that whole scenario is a riot. When my SIL got married, I had to help her wedge into a stall, crawl under her ridiculous southern belle dress, unsnap her onsie(sp?) and help her go. I can’t believe I’m sharing because we just chalked the incident up as you-gotta-do-what-ya-gotta-do situation and we didn’t discuss again for years. Glad to say beyond our family relations, she’s still what I consider a very good friend which is good because you cant ‘unlive’ those moments in life. I love that Bethanny shares her life like she does and owns every bit of it. Atta Girl.

    • bamabelle57 says:

      Thanks Squirrels… I did look at the clip… I’m watching the re-runs now and can’t wait for tonight’s new episode. I was thinking while watching Bethenny’s show that Bravo sure packed a lot in. Just the first episode alone could have been 2 or 3. My favorite part was when Bethenny invited Carol to go wedding dress shopping. Carol said at the end “I hope we can give Bethenny the family she’s been missing”… Me too, Carol… ME TOO!

      And, how stinking cute is that Cookie? I bet Jill is jealous of Cookie, too… she must feel that Cookie is getting more air time than “Ginga”… LOL!

      • Squirrels says:

        Well, Jill will most likely find an astrologer for Ginger before Beth so she can say…. “I did it first”!!!!

  27. Squirrels says:

    off to the mall….

    don’t plan to buy anything, just harass unsuspecting clerks. Jill said it is ok.

  28. dumberries says:

    Lynn, thank you for all you do. Not sure how you do it, but you do it so well!
    I’ve only had one troll encounter, on this site a few weeks back. AnneLawrence, I think it was. She interrupted a short dialogue between me and Katiecoo in the wee hours to say how stupid it was to talk about Zarin. Naively, I thought she wandered onto the site without knowing the gist of it and suggested she might enjoy another site better. Boom! Then she started on Dumberries. Katiecoo was a master of cool and I just left the site for awhile. When I came back, all the posters here had wiped the floor and Lynne had cleaned the house! Came back to the party and had a great time. Don’t want to waste space with more troll business, except to say that Lynn and the regular posters give people a lot of room to express their opinions passionately; when they start to exceed respectful boundaries and it’s clear the purpose is just to piss in everyone’s cheerios – they’re done. Thanks for that Lynn.

  29. boston02127 says:

    Does anyone else see the ball at the end of Kelly’s nose? Isn’t that a sign of an alcoholic? http://twitpic.com/21l3fc

  30. Jennifer says:

    Did anyone see Kelly’s ‘cooking’ video on you tube? She couldn’t be copying Bethenny anymore if she tried- it’s pathetic. I hate this woman and want her off

    Perez Hilton has it on his site- I will try and link it
    http://m.perezhilton.com/blog/63363/

    • error 404 says:

      I thought she didn’t drink everyday? She starts the video by saying she drinks Carona 1 day a week, then ends the video saying she ends her typical day with a Carona. Huh?

      • bamabelle57 says:

        Good point, error… she first said during the show that she doesn’t drink. Then at the reunion said yes, but not everyday… whatever!

    • kats2 says:

      I really at times dislike Kelly even more than Jill. Kelly knows exactly what she’s doing she’s just trying to mock Bethenny. It’s disgusting.

    • Upper WestSide Dude says:

      Remember, Kelly is a cook and not a chef.

      • Squirrels says:

        I so need glasses… I thought dude wrote “crook” and not a chef.

        Wait…. Kwacko has shoplifts all kinds of ideas. Does that count?

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Don’t tell me, she’s got a can of Spam and a Bic lighter?

      (OK, that was me. & if you want fancy, you add some Ritz crackers and a box of wine. Entertaining on a budget. 😉 )

      • Squirrels says:

        lol… what? No gumberries? How dare you?

        • anutha hata says:

          she drinks Carona 1 day a week, then ends the video saying she ends her typical day with a Carona. Huh?

          Its just sad that tv networks would feature someone who does stuff like this. Belive it or not, for me, its the things like that that drive me nuts and make me hate these people the most.
          Changing someone’s mind is one thing, but she does it in the same sentences. Its infuriating to me for some reason.

  31. LynnNChicago says:

    OMG I’m going to kill those Twitter’ers! They took that PopEater peice and started tweeting that Jill is coming back next season!

    Luckily Alex cleared up that mess!

    Alex: No one has been asked back yet – RT @GloriasGlam: @Whiteheat @SimonvanKempen heard Jill is back next season. What does this mean 4 you 2

    • LynnNChicago says:

      and Simon’s response..

      Simon: It means nothing us- we didn’t make an ultimatum.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        EXCLUSIVE: RHONJ Danielle Staub Weighs In On NY Cast: I Love Kelly Bensimon, Think Jill Zarin Is A.. http://bit.ly/d2ixh2

        Unbelievable!!!

        • error 404 says:

          considering Danielle mental health issues, and severe paranoia, it’s no surprise she considers herself, like Kiki Systematically bullied” lol

          3 crazy crackpots, isn’t better to contain them as a group rather than unleash them on decent society?

          • Quincy IL says:

            It just amazes me that the bullies are claiming to be the victims of bullies. What planet are they on?

            • error 404 says:

              Danielle & Kelly = planet crazy. It counterrotates the sun.

              Jill = planet liar & cheat. It has rings like saturn, for all the spin and talking in circles.

        • boston02127 says:

          Birds of a feather fly together.

        • kats2 says:

          Danille is actually being very smart about saying she likes Kelly her husband took great pics of her daughter and help launched her career. She can’t say mean things about his ex. Very well played by Danille.

          • boston02127 says:

            @kats2- I had forgotten about that. You’re right.

          • dumberries says:

            I can see Danielle being pretty smart in that regard. But, calling Zarin “an amazing person” – that’s just nuts!

            • error 404 says:

              Isn’t Jill suppose to be “friends” with the Manzo tribe? Saying Jill speaks to her is just another knife in Caroline’s side.

              • Adios Lunatic says:

                Very true…..and Jill didn’t publicize that she “reached out” to Danielle which we all know is very odd for her. She probably doesn’t want the Manzo’s to know she did that. I’d like to see Dina sic Grandma Wrinkles on Jill.

        • Squirrels says:

          ok, THAT was yucky.

        • lillybee says:

          Crazy likes crazy. Makes sense.

        • bamabelle57 says:

          Here’s part of Danielle’s interview…

          She adds on behalf of Kelly, ”If you defend yourself by saying ‘You don’t know what goes on behind the scene.’ No, I do understand because it happens to me. Leave her alone. The people that stand up and stand next to her—I see Jill Zarin as one of the most wonderful human beings.”

          Danielle and Jill are actually good friends. They did not know each other before the show, but have found camraderie despite being in separate casts. “Jill reached out to me very personally and extended support because she found out how important that was to me. She gets attacked too. We all do. If you think it’s pretty to attack people look at my 3 cast mates. Look at the darkness they’re surrounding themselves in.”
          @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

          I AM SPEECHLESS…

          • Need a Hobby says:

            I think it’s wonderful that Danielle embraces Jill Zarin. Danielle should talk about this a lot and pose with Jill at events whenever possible.

            🙂

      • Squirrels says:

        love love love Simon. He spells it out without lobbing a bomb. Zarin has no comeback, mean or otherwise.

        • dumberries says:

          Yes! And, without saying anything derogatory, his simple response makes it clear that he and Alex are adults whereas Zarin is an ultimatum-issuing juvenile. Good job Simon..

      • Alex and Simon definitely take the high road while jill flies her broom straight to hell! Gee, that sounds pretty harsh doesn’t it? But considering Jill’s trying to destroy the reputations/businesses/jobs of Bethenny, then Alex and Simon, maybe not so harsh after all.

  32. Char212 says:

    How in the heck do you guys follow on twitter? I get dizzy trying to figure out who’s talking to who and what the heck everyone is talking about lol.

  33. kats2 says:

    I almost forgot, Did anyone watch that LX stupid show Jill was on today with Kelly and Lulu?

  34. Zipit Zarin says:

    I’m admitting I’m hooked on the kids reality show Endurance. It’s like Survivor but for tweens. It has all the interpersonal dynamics and that’s what I love about the HW shows. It’s very interesting to see children forming their values and shaping their behavior. This latest group has the popular kids ganging up on a few other teams and it got, I think, very bad. Not just close to bullying but for real bullying. The good thing is that the host, or whatever you call them, had told them at the beginning that they need to pay attention to how they treat people and mentioned karma. After the popular/pretty/girls + boys behaving badly/ had weeded out some nice people, they were brought together and told all the people they had gotten rid of got to vote on who should get some help. The meanest little bitch didn’t get one vote (even tho some of her *friends* had gotten eliminated. She took a good hard look at herself and admitted she acted badly and made amends with the girl she had bullied. Now THAT is some closure! She acted (finally) more mature than Jill Zarin ever will. I really think this girl will go back to school and home a better person for this whole experience. She wasn’t rewarded for behaving badly. Too bad Jill Zarin keeps being rewarded for behaving badly. That’s probably why she does. Sad for her and everyone she comes in contact with. My family wonders why I want to watch this “kid” show. heh (It’s on Disney Kids at 7 central) The finale is tonight 😀

  35. LynnNChicago says:

    Danielle tells the press that she and Jill are friends. How do you think Jill feels about that?

    Jill is supposed to be so close with Teresa, Teresa even defended Jill to the point where it was ridiculous.

    Some tension could surely be created there.

    • Squirrels says:

      I love it. Zarin, Kwacko, Danielle – what a clique!

      • anutha hata says:

        Ramona made a point to say that she refused to be photographed with Danielle. Andy Cohen asked Danielle about it on WWHL and danielle said that Ramona was lying about that. Ramona then called-in, and said that no, Danielle was lying …..I bet Danielle won’t waste any time having her picture taken with Jill.

        • Squirrels says:

          Zarin’s in the dog house now… What does she do the next time Danielle and she are at the same event? Strike a pose together? Run for the ladies room? Scream…. “where’s my husband?”

          I want to come back as the fly that constantly zips past Zarin’s nostrils. I want to see her slap herself in the face.

          Was that mean?

        • babelony says:

          Love Ramona, she never lets the shit slide.

    • dumberries says:

      Yeah, did seem like maybe Danielle was sticking it to the Manzo clan by publicizing her new-found allegiance with Zarin. And, I wouldn’t put it past Zarin to be playing both sides of the fence. Best part: Zarin’s fabulous circle of people = Kiki and Danielle

    • bamabelle57 says:

      I LOVE IT, TOO… Can’t wait for the shit to hit the fan!

      Can somebody post that article to Jill’s facebook and ask her if she’s friends with Danielle? Or, post it to Teresa’s and Caroline’s… Hahahahahahahahaha

  36. Zipit Zarin says:

    Holy shitballs! lol

  37. Squirrels says:

    ps. 404 – I responded to your post @ July 1, 2010 at 4:34 pm. Felt it still belonged up there vs at the bottom. No need to re-dredge.

  38. Zipit Zarin says:

    My thoughts on Work of Art: Performance art is so 1970’s! My ex graduated from The Minneapolis College of Art and Design in 1975. Everyone was doing performance art. Blech. One artist wore only high heels and crawled around on the rafters above everyone at one opening. . Another artist made all her art out of dryer lint. . A group of artists found a vintage car and destroyed it with hammers to John Cage music wearing tuxedos and ball gowns. It seemed to me back then that something was considered art if someone else hadn’t had the idea yet. Yeah, original. Big wooop. The real artists weren’t at the parties and openings…they were back in their apartments painting or sculpting or developing photos. They weren’t so popular but they went on to actually make a living at it. Real talent. My ex wasn’t very good…he became an art dealer. Also, I don’t think it’s shocking to offend Christians. It doesn’t take much courage to offend people who don’t cut off your head or stab you on the street if you offend their religion.

    Rant Over

    • Squirrels says:

      Interesting take on the subject of 70’s art. I’d nearly forgot. Wait ! I was hanging out in Harvard Square back then (that’s my excuse for 70’s memory lapse and I’m staying with it). Can’t remember much except the show was for free. All the artists rolled out of bed and hit the streets around 3pm.

      Great times.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Well, I must say, I would have to support any artist who works in dryer lint! LOL 🙂

  39. MsT says:

    Awe, heck, I came here talk shit about Jill. Dont really watch TOP CHEF. But I know I wont be disappointed by Lynn…she will keep me updated on the that vile, cruel, hateful bitch.
    When I think of Jill, she reminds me of the wicked stepmother from Snow White. You know…the one who says “Mirror, mirror on the wall?”

    • Quincy IL says:

      Yeah… like she looked into the mirror in the jewelry store. I get it.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      LOL The Top Chef talk ended a long time ago, we’re back to Jill and anything else ya like!

      • error 404 says:

        sorry. I just don’t get Bravo’s sudden obsession with DC. I also find Top Chef one of those shows that take a little bit to get into, but once you do you’re hooked, so sometimes I’m reluctant to make the commitment at first. lol

  40. Quincy IL says:

    I googled Bethenny’s name. She thinks there will be a season two of her show.

    Can we keep the wedding planner? I like him. Cujo thinks he is interesting

    Bethenny said that she has a lot of material and that she is still a lunatic.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      The wedding/event planner kinda looks like a human chihuahua. He gets this big eyed panicked look at the thought of what B will do to him if don’t go well. One can almost sense him shivering with his eyes all big at the visions going thru his head.

  41. Squirrels says:

    Latest Simon tweet –

    On Thursday 1st July 2010, @SimonvanKempen said:

    reply
    If we did we would have left after season 1 RT @franticee: @SimonvanKempen Do you really care if Jill is back or not? Tell me you don’t take this fan hatred seriously, please…

    • LynnNChicago says:

      They don’t care if Jill returns, they do their own thing anyway. They’re not the ones who said they wouldn’t return if Jill did. Jill was the one that said she wouldn’t return if Alex did.

      Dare to dream….

      • Squirrels says:

        Simon’s response also adds insight to what happened the first season. They knew they were being tossed like yesterday’s salad and Jill held the zircon encrusted tongs.

      • That’s true, they have always done their own thing. And Jill has always been a petty bitch; it just came out more obviously in season 3. Like killing an ant with a sledgehammer. I think her sister was right when she said she underestimated how important fame was to Jill.

        • Squirrels says:

          That was soooo telling. Your own sister is obviously disturbed by your behavior Zarin.

          Wake up call … someone got a bugle?

          • dumberries says:

            Someone posted last week that Zarin and Lisa had been estranged for 6 years at one time. Didn’t surprise me. Especially after the scene of the book photo shoot. Lisa and Gloria looked like they wanted to strangle big shot Zarin several times during that scene.

  42. Olivia says:

    I love Silex! Having read their book I believe a series about their lives would be very interesting. They have both traveled extensively and have both lived in different parts of the world not to mention his having been born and raised in Australia. They are very cosmopolitan, have developed a strong bond as both spouses and parents, and seem well suited to bring a different perspective to a series that does not have to dwell on the “drama”.

    If anyone should have a spin off series I elect Alex and Simon. They seem to have a grasp on reality itself and I am anxious for their next book which covers married life. Told from the perspective of a “he said/she said” narrative, it could very well be something new to offer those of us who prefer “niceness” over crapola.

    • Squirrels says:

      Here, here. I’m curious however, as to why Simon had such a small showing this year. Was it to let Alex spread her wings? Did Bravo just cut him out? Either way, it worked.

      Alex became non Silex for me when she told Ramona @ the whatever event she didn’t practice the message to her husband because…. it wasn’t a message that had anything to do with him. I adored how she owned it alone. She’s a stand up woman.

      • I remember Simon and Alex saying in an interview that since Alex started working at home after season 1 or part of season 2, she was available to film during the day, whereas before, she was only available to film mostly at night when she spent time more with Simon, so they did things together more and were filmed together more.

    • dumberries says:

      I agree. I think the first season they were trying too hard to portray themselves in the role they had been cast, and the editing helped exaggerate a certain level of desperation to climb the social ladder and prove how cosmopolitan they are. Unlike Zarin, they reflected on it honestly, got the message and seems like they decide, “hey eff it, let’s just be ourselves”. They do seem very cool and interesting – would be intrigued to see more.

    • Uh, Olivia! That would be great! I think Alex and Simon’s life is so interesting, yet their everyday family life so normal, probably like the vast majority of Americans!

      As an example of someone completely opposite, remember LuAnn’s housekeeper, Rosie? That one episode she said she would advise LuAnn to stay home more and spend time with her kids. Good, sound advice. i doubt Rosie would have said that if LuAnn was going out only 1 or 2 nights per week.

      I think Alex is also working on a cookbook. I would love that. And another book but can’t remember offhand what it is.

    • Wallflower says:

      I’d love to see them have their own show too! I’ve really enjoyed watching Alex come into her own this season (and I loved Simon’s blogs when he was doing them).

      The contrast between Bethenny’s show and RHONY has been truly refreshing. I would watch more programming with that kind of feel–whether it’s RHONY minus the toxicity(*cough*Jill Zarin*cough*) or Silex Takes Manhattan, I’d be there!

  43. cusi77 says:

    They are very active in their community as we saw in Brooklyn Weekend Fashion, and Alex said as well with The American Cancer Scty.

  44. cusi77 says:

    Hello Lynn! Hi everybody!

    I went to Vegas to celebrate my birthday 56! I could not watch work of Art… Now I am waiting for BWM…

    • dumberries says:

      Happy Belated Birthday!!! Hope you broke the bank..

      • cusi77 says:

        @dumberries__ thank you kindly! I came back “even”… even is GREAT! I had fun and ate delicious… I really missed you all!

    • Squirrels says:

      Crap… at first I thought you wrote… BMW… thought you seriously cashed in at the black jack tables. I nearly responded…. “Did you win a convertible?”

    • Squirrels says:

      Many happy returns of the day Cusi.

    • Happy Birthday Cusi! Hope you had a great time in Vegas! 🙂

    • Adios Lunatic says:

      Hope you had a great time and won big!

    • bamabelle57 says:

      Happy “Late” 56th Birthday, cusi77…

      I’m waiting on Bethenny too… I couldn’t watch Work Of Art either… It was too GROSS for me, and definately NOT ART… IMHO!

    • babelony says:

      Happy B-Day cusi77. I never mind if I just break even, as long as I don’t go home broke–It’s the good time that counts.

  45. MsT says:

    I was wondering what the Wicked Queen name was, so I googled it. Her name was Queen Grimhilde! But for many years, she was just know as the wicked queen. The more think about it, Jill portrays herself in the exact same manner. “Mirror, mirror, on the wall, please get rid of Bethenny!”

  46. Squirrels says:

    Another observation… Bravo tried to make Simon and Alex look like clowns from early on… the ass grabbing incident, showing up @ Zarin’s all girl party, wild red pants. It’s as if Bravo edits to see what’s going to sell or bomb. The difference between Zarin’s reaction to what made it on air and Silex? 180 degrees. So, too is the difference between being petty and broad mindedness.

    • dumberries says:

      I really liked the red pants – love that Simon wears what HE likes and doesn’t care if the snobs make fun. I think he wore those when he and Ramona danced at the end of the charity event last season. Seems like Ramona was starting to warm up to Simon and Alex before season 3. That’s one my favorite scenes. Ramona and Simon are one-of-a-kind people – don’t fit any stereotypes. Classic dance moves.

  47. Squirrels says:

    Yikes, Simon is on fire…

    On Thursday 1st July 2010, @SimonvanKempen said:
    reply
    She was “misquoted” (was prob just her accent) RT @karenivyinsb: @mccordalex @simonvankempen I heard Jill said she was NOT coming back, going on a spiritual journey (LOL) now she’s back? Bummer

    On Thursday 1st July 2010, @SimonvanKempen said:
    reply
    Honestly I don’t care , @McCordAlex & I can deal with anyone. @Bella_Marchesa: @SimonvanKempen Or she was misunderstood and she’s sorry…or so she said. Do you want her back…just for the drama? Maybe?

    There ya have it. Jill has to accept Alex and Simon because they plan to run the gauntlet, or tuck tail and run.

    • Way to go Simon! That was a big dig at Jill’s accent. LOL!

      Let’s see…what will Jill do? Alex and Simon will be back…Jill said she wouldn’t return if Alex came back…why, we all know what Jill will do!

      Jill’s grubby little fingers are already grabbing greedily for that golden globe, uh, I’m mean, apple.

      😛

    • dumberries says:

      Yikes – this feather jewelery stuff has been done over and over (and better and better). In the photo, it literally looks like a whole bird crashed into the side of her empty head.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I thought she hated the 70’s

  48. cusi77 says:

    I would like to thank to all of you who wished me a happy birthday- I had a great time and came back even! Even is good! My hubby… I do not want to know!

  49. cusi77 says:

    I am so happy to learn that Danielle and Jill are good friends! Just to know Jill is playing both sides with NJHW… I can wait for Teresa’s response! I dislike her very much… almost as much as JZ!

  50. Well, it’s been fun. I’m getting off here to get ready for Bethenny’s show. Cats to water (Jak does not drink water out of a bowl so we have to squirt him several times a day with a feeding syringe), 3 kitty mouths to feed, and popcorn to make. YUM!

    Wonder if Lynn will blog the show tonight? I’ll certainly be checking in to see. 🙂

  51. boston02127 says:

    Teresa’s tweet:
    OMG! My swimsuit pictures are in this week’s In Touch mag! (I’m on cover too). Audriana looks so cute with me…

    (I wonder how long the waxing took before that shoot)

    • Squirrels says:

      OMG… THAT was funny.

    • dumberries says:

      Isn’t Teresa the one that criticized B for being too in-shape after giving birth (some nonsense about setting unrealistic expectations for other women)? Now she’s doing a bikini layout in a magazine with her 8 month old daughter? And, the Skinny Italian book coming out after the Skinny Girl cookbook. It’s fine to see something working and emulate it, but this hairy woman criticizes the very person she’s copying. Weird.

      • Squirrels says:

        Its an epidemic I tell ya.

        • Jennifer says:

          They pics are on realitytea.com photoshopped to hell- and she LIES and said she got her boobs done summer 2009 which isn’t true- she got them done on first season, and she was preg in summer 2009 LIARS!!!!!

          • Squirrels says:

            This is another difference between BS media and journalism. A photojournalist cannot under any circumstances do anything to a photo beyond crop/color/tone/shadow to improve the quality over all. Beyond that, it is considered completely unethical and it can cost you your job and reputation.

    • babelony says:

      Ouch! That one’s got to hurt.

  52. boston02127 says:

    Cusi—Sorry I missed it. Happy belated Birthday! 🙂

    • cusi77 says:

      Thank you Boston.

      Kelly is a plagiarist (plagio?), she steals ideas here and there.
      You can see GEDRUN ARP jewelry in GALLERIE SLAVIK and is Kelly’s is the cheap version of this great Artist.

      About the “Kellade” in Oaxaca-Mexico is very comun to have ice, lime juice, tequila and beer, it is fresh. Nothing original from that 13 year old who thinks the rest of the people is as dummy as she is!

      • DesertGal says:

        Also, visit any resort in Mexico, and you will find miceladas being served – a drink combination of lemonade, tequila, and beer. There’s nothing new about that drink-they’ve been serving it for decades.

        The funny part is, Kelly probably truly believes that she came up with the idea.

    • felony stupid says:

      Oh silly uninteresting non-famous Omawho. She’ll keep shouting this from the rooftops as long as it keeps her name out there. She’s got nothing going for her and B was right to be insulted at the comparison.

  53. LynnNChicago says:

    @JeanaKeough has a new reality weight loss show premiering on Bravo in September http://bit.ly/diYVHQ

  54. Dani says:

    I can’t wait for BGM episode tonight. I truly love the show and Bethenny. It is such fun to see a show where people are enjoyable to watch. I read on this blog that it will be on for a second season I am so glad. I hope that we see more of Alex and Simon on her show. I am anxious to see the wedding episode and get a really good look at Alex’s dress. I have seen it from the back in pictures but not the front.

    I hope that Jill watches the episode so she can see how her nastiness prevented her from being invited. I also read the article about Bethenny saying that she would not let Jill babysit for Bryn. I wouldn’t want this sick lunatic around my beautiful baby either.

    Looking forward to you blog Lynn on this weeks BGM, you always do a great job and I truly appreciate you.

  55. MsT says:

    I was wondering what the Wicked Queen of Snow White’s name was, so I googled it. Her name was Queen Grimhilde! But for many years, she was just know as the wicked queen. The more think about it, Jill portrays herself in the exact same manner. “Mirror, mirror, on the wall, how can I sabotage Bethenny?” (evil laugh, inserted here)

  56. LynnNChicago says:

    From Andy Cohen: RT @caroncaroncaron: when is rhony casting news? SIT TIGHT UNTIL 2011!

  57. boston02127 says:

    The answer to why Ashley is so Trashy.

    Her mothers tweet:
    I think my blog is not up late because I wrote a book and I’m sure they are editing half of it out. I had a lot to say. Screw the high road.

    Guess they prefer the low road…

    • felony stupid says:

      That group couldn’t find the high road with a map and gps.

      • vilzvet says:

        Ugh, Ashley has yet another blog about what “really” happened the night of the fashion show among other things. What is surprising is that the comments that I normally avoid like the plague, are quite anti-Ashley. I assume the Post Remover is off-duty til tomorrow and will check that comment section later to see if any have been removed, especially the one calling her the most annoying person on reality tv, lol.

  58. Adgirl says:

    Now that Kelly has a cooking video, an exercise video and a drink, I hear Kelly is planning to announce her new reality show.

    It’s called “Kelly is Getting Married?”.

    Nope just kidding.

    • Dani says:

      Love this, can we all say “Kelly wants to be Bethenny.”

      • Squirrels says:

        Kelly wants a Pulitzer Prize?

        • dumberries says:

          Teresa wants to be Bethenny too. Or maybe Teresa wants to be Kelly who wants to be Bethenny. Hard to follow the trail of unoriginal thinkers.

      • Squirrels says:

        Allow me to rephrase that….

        Kelly gets a Pulitzer Prize?????????????????????????

        Good title.

        • dumberries says:

          Squirrels, lol! Almost as realistic as “Kelly get a job???”

        • error 404 says:

          next week on “Kelly Gets a Pulitzer???” things starts going south in Sweden as Kelly wrangles with Maya Angelou (you’re not a poet, you’re a limricist!) and Joyce Carol Oates (those big glasses are like so 1979!) but are there sparks between her and Aaron Copland? (Apalacian Spring is just so totally like awesome, like I mean with like integrity and like awesome realness!)

  59. HD says:

    Jason hasn’t met the wedding planner?

  60. HD says:

    Poor, Bethanny. So sad on such a big day that she does not have family that will support her. I feel sad for her.

    • Olivia says:

      Sad and happy for her at the same time. She found someone at last who can really ground her and who loves her no matter what. I was a basket case watching this tonight. Next week is going to be more of the same when they finally tie the knot.

      • Katiecoo says:

        he said something about her being his kite…how sweet was that? Love them together.

  61. Katiecoo says:

    Anyone watching BGM? OMG she’s cracking me up right now!

  62. cusi77 says:

    Bethenny represents everything that decency means! She never negociate her integrity… I understand more and more the reason she got her own program. She is the real deal!

    She makes me laugh, she makes me cry… I want to hug her like Jason’s mother did.
    She is adorable!

  63. BRAVO TV:

    I have to say that I have not laughed harder and cried more than when I’ve watched Bethenny’s show!

    When Bethenny and Jason were meeting with the reverend and Bethenny began crying over not having any family to attend the wedding, I was reaching for a tissue, wiping my eyes and nose, throwing it the wastebasket, then reaching for another and another. I thought I was going to use a whole box of tissues! LOL Oh, and watching the previews for next week, I can tell I’ll need a whole fresh box of tissues! LOL! 😛

    You’ve got a winner in this show!

    • Katiecoo says:

      This episode hit it outta the ballpark. I felt like it was a feature length movie! So jam packed with emotion!

      i loved when she described her bridal shower dress as “if I was wearing a tampon the string would hang lower than this dress”. LMAOOOOO

  64. Olivia says:

    Pass the Kleenex please. I just wept my way through BGM? I love Jason. No wonder she is so smitten with him. Everybody needs a Jason in their lives. Wow!

    And Shawn is beginning to grow on me as well. I think, as exasperating as she can be with her control issues, he really gets Bethenny. It was a treat to be able to sit back and watch a show that had so much hilarity and love coming out rather than the screaming, pole dancing, backstabbing pile of manure that Bravo has been shoveling at us week after week.

    I hesitate to use the word “fan” in relation to a reality “star” but I do love Bethenny. You just want to reach out and hug her sometimes. But Jason is the MAN! What a great job his folks did in raising him.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I love Jason and his whole family…I want to know them! Also yes Shawn is growing on me too….

      • Noelle says:

        I for one am really loving Shawn, he seems to be a doll and is trying so hard. Did you love cujo nipping him again?? LOL I loved how he took it in stride. Also appreciated how compassionate he was to B @ 4 seasons meeting.

    • Well, you said it all Olivia:

      “It was a treat to be able to sit back and watch a show that had so much hilarity and love coming out rather than the screaming, pole dancing, backstabbing pile of manure that Bravo has been shoveling at us week after week. ”

      In a regular season of Bethenny’s show, you can imagine how fun it will be with them all and little Bryn to boot!

      Hopefully not as emotional as it is now, because i hate to be blubbering all the time! LOL! It’s just extra emotional given the circumstances this season.

      Shawn sure does move fast! That Cookie almost had a nip out of him this time! LOL! Bad dog! >^–^<

  65. cusi77 says:

    I agree with you Olivia.

    Jason is right for Bethenny. What July said is “spot on” those two, together are more.
    Made for each other. I had my reserves in the begining. Every week I said the same… this has been the episode so far… and the following week exedes my expectations…
    Stop the crap of NJ BRAVO TV! We want more of real and honest people… no more opium for the masses. We want to leave values to the new generations!

  66. Dani says:

    Olivia, I wept my way through Bethenny’s show too. This is the second week that my husband has watched the show with me and he said tonight that he really liked it. I laugh, I cry, I say how much I like Jason and how he is so good for Bethenny. I am so glad that she has found happiness and she does have it all now. This is the best show Bravo has on the air.

    • Olivia says:

      I’m pathetic. Still wiping the mascara off my cheeks. I am signed up for her e-mail alerts and she speaks so lovingly of how he is right there with her for diaper changing and all and how she hates to leave the baby for any length of time. In fact she tells how she is in pj’s and has to make time to shower.

      Love, love, love Bethenny!

      • Char212 says:

        Me too! I cried right along with her and my heart was breaking for her. But she sure has come a long way from her childhood and if anything, it made her strong! I’d be proud to have her for my daughter. I just love Bethanny’s show. If anyone had any doubt that she could carry a show it should be gone now.

  67. Dani says:

    I can’t wait for next weeks show. I loved the previews of the wedding and the guy jumping in to the pool. This is the kind of show we want to watch not the Jill Zarin’s of this world being the mean girl each week. I am so glad that Bethenny got her own show and I am thrilled that she is sharing her life with us.

    • Olivia says:

      This show draws you in. Whereas the others have us reaching for the remote. But like roadkill, it is hard to avoid since what is shown is so awful that you cannot believe they are showing it. But BGM has a whole different quality that somehow reaches out.

  68. MsT says:

    I also cried when the Reverend asked Jason who in his family was attending the wedding. He stated “my mother and father”. When Bethenny was asked the same question, a pause…then she said “no one” with tears in her eyes. The reality of the situation hit her hard. I found it very endearing when Jason called her “little mama.”

    How very sad for Bethenny to have felt so alone. She is blessed with Jason and Bryn now…you can have it all!

    • Char212 says:

      Oh I know. I wanted to reach through my TV and hug her. It broke my heart to see her hurting like that. Damn, I’d love to find her mother and give her a big whopping pieced of my mind and tell her what a loser and lousy human being she is.

    • Katiecoo says:

      Well the reality is Bethenny will never have it “all” as you never get over missing your nuclear family…BUT she is not only a survivor but a THRIVER and is creating something new from the ashes. A testament to her spirit.

      But she will have to deal with this “family loss” at milestones throughout her life. Believe me, I know of which I speak. I will be lucky to find my own Jason one day and believe that I will. 🙂

  69. Dani says:

    I agree Olivia, it makes you want to stand up and cheer.

  70. ShyAsrai says:

    EGAD! just digusted by T’s triumphant attitude over her bathroom ambush. my comment to that no-forehead Neanderthal on her Bravo blog (which likely won’t get posted):

    **********************
    you are a shambles. like I posted on Ashley’s blog – Danielle is NO excuse for your own lack of common decency.

    you are a grown woman with responsibilities – the greatest of which is (should be) providing a role model for your kids.

    no, it’s not cute. YOU’RE not cute. i feel as badly for YOUR daughters as much as knowing Danielle’s daughters have HER for a mother.

    acting like you are standing between your loved ones and a gun-toting terrorist on a bombed out battlefield where REAL heroes line up when actually it’s just you with your cankles and chinchilla waylaying your social enemy outside the bathroom at a country club, for the love of pete, to trade juvenile insults… just absolutely, stunningly, pathetic.

    perspective, much?
    ******************************

    i absolutely am not wasting my eyeballs on another second of The Real Trash of New Jersey.

  71. Olivia says:

    One thing I like about Bethenny is that she is willing to be filmed looking at her best and at her worst. Some of those scenes show her all dolled up and looking like a NY go getter and others show her looking no better than me in the morning before the coffee and the cosmetics go to work. Flaws and all, that’s Bethenny.

    • anitabee says:

      I have always loved Bethenny. I cried tonite when she was asked about who from her family is coming.

      “No one.”
      “No one?”
      “No one.”

      I couldn’t even wrap my head around it. I put my dvr on pause, picked up the phone, and called my mother. I told her that she is a great mom and I love her. She laughed and said, “I know” which made me laugh. She told me I interupted her Telenovela (Spanish Soap Opera) and we’d talk again tomorrow.

      I see my mother 3 times a week (at least) and talk to her twice a day. I don’t know what I would do without her. I’m in my 40s and I still need her in my life.

      Bethenny is an incredible person. Thank goodness someone at Bravo had the smarts to give her this spinoff show. I love watching it. And as much as I cry, her funny remarks always more than make up for the tears.

      I am soooooooooooo happy for Bethenny, Jason and Bryn.

      • ShyAsrai says:

        i just bawled with her, but smiled too, remembering that she’s got her lovely little family now. i thought jason was really supportive and kind – it looked like he really felt her pain.

        i hope he and his family just completely wrap bethenny in a big soft roll of bubble-wrap-love.

  72. cusi77 says:

    I like very much the part when B talks to her therapist and alowed us to see Bethenny deeply inside, her childhood, her fears, happiness, success…

    She had every reason to go for the wrong way, however She chose to do better for herself… She is a role model!

  73. boston02127 says:

    G’ night all.

  74. cusi77 says:

    Nighty night, Boston. Sweet dreams.

  75. MsT says:

    Just seen the previews of HWNJ for next week. Teresa was calling Danielle a “coke whore bitch.” My first thought was how embarrassed I was for Teresa. She apparently has no idea what the word “classy” means. What adult women, wife & mother acts like this? Isn’t she like 37 or 38?

    Ok, Teresa is supposedly to be a affluent woman whose circle involves the elite of NJ. Why does she act like a hoodrat, that was raised in the ghetto? She lives in a multi million dollar home, (which we know she didn’t buy it with her money!) and goes out and STARTS a brawl at a fashion show? And YES, she instigated this fight with Danielle. Say what you want about Danielle, but Teresa started this one. After all she is such a “nice” person…yeah right. Teresa said “Is bitch better?”. I say, takes one to know one!!!

    Shes right up there with Jill Zarin…nice my ass…

  76. Dani says:

    That is what I like about Bethenny also, we see her at her best and at her worst. She knows her strong points as well as her weak and she is not ashamed to admit them. Bethenny is down to earth and there are things about her that I can relate to. She does not put on a show for the camera or try to be someone that she is not (like the queen of mean Jill).

  77. Sick of the Trolls says:

    Best new show out there. Who would have thunk it?

    LOVED it!

    Bethenny is putting the REAL in reality TV.

    • Katiecoo says:

      YES! It’s a “feel good” show in the same way Sex and the City was. You laugh, you cry, you relate. You cheer her on. It’s filling that void for me. I hope she wins an Emmy if that’s possible.

    • error 404 says:

      true, she’s not about making herself be put in the best light possible, like at all. It’s all very real.

  78. cusi77 says:

    Somebody knows about shadows health?

    • anitabee says:

      Enjoyed your take on it. (as usual)

      I guess I feel like I understand where Bethenny is coming from because she like myself are both Scorpios.

      Scorpios tend to be perfectionists to the point of being obsessive. Scorps tend to be Uber Type A personalities. Jason wasn’t kidding that Bethenny wanted help but would no let him make any real decisions. And deep inside Bethenny knows it and owns it.

      Lastly, Scorpios can really “sting” someone to pain with a comment. We just tend to see things before others do and can’t understand why people don’t see what we see. I understand exactly what she is saying to her wedding planner about what she feels that Jason thinks about her.

      Luckily for Bethenny – Jason doesn’t feel that way. He really loves her. It’s just her fear coming out.

      I can’t wait for next weeks show…

      • Katiecoo says:

        Maybe that’s why I relate so much to her too…another Scorpio here. I also was raised with a “limited” family–Mom died VERY young (I was 5), lots of other death and loss in the family….so I’ve been in many ways orphaned as well, yet have been a success and maintained a degree of optimism and innocence in spite of it all. I can so relate to Bethenny.

        • Pantry Viewer says:

          Love to you, Katiecoo. Bless your heart. It’s interesting to have someone to be able to relate to and cheer on. What a refreshing show!

  79. cusi77 says:

    Thank you error.

    Did you blog Work of Art? I missed it…

  80. Marie Laveau says:

    Does anyone know what happened to “Hooked on Housewives”? I miss her posts, and I’m actually a little worried about her. Have I missed any news about her? Was she driven away by a troll?

    BTW, I was smiling and sobbing through tonight’s episode of BGM.

  81. Katiecoo says:

    “If I had a tampon in, the string would be longer than this dress. Dollars to donuts”.

    LINE OF THE NIGHT! lol

  82. Do you know who made the most money off of tonight’s BGM episode?
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    Tissue manufacturers! LOL!

    And they’ll make even more off of next week’s wedding episode!

  83. Squirrels says:

    Crap. I’m already teary eyed just reading and I haven’t even watched the episode !!!

    Looking forward to it though.

  84. RileyKitty says:

    I am so friggen tired but wanted to check in with you all…

    Loved BGM? tonight. I have read several things (not here) about Jason setting off people’s gaydar, I don’t see it. He seems like a typical straight guy to me.

    Just because it can’t be said enough… Jill is a vile bitch!!!

    • Katiecoo says:

      Ya know, the “feelgoodyness” of this show is making all the TOXICITY of the RHONY seem like a faint memory. I feel like I’ve been washed in a clean rain shower and JZ and her ilk are far far away (down the drain). And I hope they stay there!

    • error 404 says:

      maybe their gaydar needs to go into the shop and get checked?

  85. Ugh! I want to stay up a while and read but I’m so emotionally drained. LOL! I’m turning in. Maybe I can sleep more than a couple of hours! 🙂 Night all!

  86. Before I close down for the night, I remembered to ask:

    Where’s kat? Haven’t seen her post in a couple of days.

  87. Katiecoo says:

    “This Gyro is..like, completely, H2O”. Pronounced “Jie-roh”. lol

    And oddly enough I picked up gyros tonite for dinner without even knowing this! Ding!

  88. Squirrels says:

    Kat2 has popped up today.

  89. cusi77 says:

    Nite firmer!

  90. Katiecoo says:

    With Bethenny’s success, I sincerely hope and pray that her mother doesn’t crawl out of the woodwork to somehow capitalize on her fame in some way. If she’s the Narcissist she sounds like (and I believe what drew her to an “N” like Zarin), she might not be able to resist it. Like in the ending of the movie “White Oleander” hopefully her mother has, and will continue to set her free.

  91. MsT says:

    Watching HWNJ, and on the talking head Ashley stated that if she seen Danielle, she was just going to ignore her. Hmmm, does ignoring a person mean you sit across the room and smirk at her and wave? While mother looks on, not saying a word?

    Did you also notice on the endearing scene Between Jason and Bethenny, that soft piano music was playing in the background? I think BRAVO is playing with our emotions…and it worked!!

  92. MsT says:

    Katiekoo, I worked at a Greek restaurant years ago and nobody pronounces GYRO right and the people at the restaurants are used to it. The most egregious sounds like “jai-roe” with the “jai” sounding like “pie.” You’re better off just trying “hee-roh” like “hero” but with a little longer “e.” The correct pronunciation is actually a soft g, which is very hard for most Americans to get right

    • Squirrels says:

      I pronounce it hero with a Y. yero. Is that close?

    • Katiecoo says:

      Thanks! I tend to say it like “yee-roh” which i’m sure is somewhat butchering it but they never correct me. lol

      • Squirrels says:

        Ugh. Guess I’ll just point and say…. I’ll take the #5 with a side of humus.

        • Katiecoo says:

          LOL! I was just in there tonite so this is extra funny. I know those guys cuz they are my citric acid connection (I use it to make bath products). So they probably are just being polite at my poor pronunciations. But I can sure say FETA, as in the gorgeous FRENCH FETA i purchased tonite. 😀

      • error 404 says:

        I say it like “year-ro”

        I swear that’s how a diner owner told me to say way back when I moved to NYC and ordered my first “ghi-ro”

  93. Rawhide says:

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  94. Katiecoo says:

    “It’s poignant that your acceptance of maybe having to adopt a child or have a child on your own resulted in your meeting somebody you actually wanted to have a child with. It speaks to the power of acceptance” Dr. Amador (B’s therapist–wise wise man).

    This really touched me.

    • Squirrels says:

      Indeed, a telling moment. I also admired that he was thinking about her just before she came in. Can’t say that for allot of doctors, regardless of specialty.

    • Noelle says:

      Wow your’re so smart to point that out!! I thought same (powerful!)

      Pass me the damn kleenix…

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        I’m so glad we are getting to see those snippets with him! I’m kinda breathless almost, kinda holding my breath during the sessions. That makes me sound cooky, I know 0 I’m not normally into a show, but this one makes me laugh out loud and shed a tear sometimes!

        Love this show!

  95. Sick of the Trolls says:

    I am SO GLAD JILL ZARIN SET OUT TO RUIN BETHENNY!

    otherwise, we might have had to endure her on Bethenny’s show. Such a relief that shrill voice and nasty, self-centered fame-ho isn’t ruining everything on this surprisingly sweet and honest show.

  96. MsT says:

    I love that Lynn created this site. I love Lynns blogs, and I love the people who comment. I come here often many times of the day, and I read every new comment posted.

    I love you all!!

  97. viki55 says:

    Bravo has last nites episode of BGM on their web site this morning. They are so unpredictable, ya never know what episodes will be there but this is a nice surprise this fine morning. Crying at my desk, jesh!

  98. Thank you Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs for the Work of Art blog! 🙂

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