I Hate Jill Zarin RHONJ The Fight July 12, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Real Housewives of NJ                  July 12, 2010

We have a guest blogger for tonight’s episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey but I just wanted to put my two cents in about Watch What Happens Live tonight.  This is the show that had A-list movie stars that actually watched The Real Housewives of New York with a few obvious exceptions (Jerry Seinfeld).  Tonight’s episode Jacqueline and Teresa joined Andy Cohen speaking over one another, hanging on each other in an attempt to make fun of Danielle, I never laughed once, or even smiled.  It was not funny at all! 

Theresa Giudice even compared her bankruptcy situation to Donald Trump?  I am convinced that this is not an act, Teresa is really just plain old stupid!  Jacqueline is not a whole lot better, I used to think that at least Jacqueline had a little restraint and some class but no more! 

On RHONJ tonight Jacqueline actually ran screaming after Danielle yelling, “I’ve read the court documents, Danielle”.  We must have missed something…..that famous editing again!

Well I could go on and on but we do have a guest blogger this week so here it is and thank you to HD for writing it….

My goodness…this is what we have been tempted, teased and tantalized with all season…the lights, sirens and weave pulling! Well, tonight we got it. Are you satisfied or are you like me…you STILL can’t believe it’s not butter?

Let me please say this first, I humbly asked Lynn to blog for this show and perhaps she was still tipsy from the Stanley Cup high when she agreed. Trust me, participles will dangle, verbs will be out of place, nothing will be in the right tense and the world will still keep on turning. I think I right (or is that write?) pretty well but you guys are TOUGH! Please be kind to a new blogger.
I write it the way I speak it! And yes, I have been known to go off a time a two. Such is life.

Okay….on to the lights, camera, action…We begin back at the fashion show-and I do use that word lightly. This is certainly not Project Runway – New York Fashion Week more like GTL Fashion-palooza-but Kim (some initial that I can’t remember because no one really cares) wants to highlight some of her “fashions” in her upcoming store. You all know the story, fashions, Danielle being paranoid, stares across the room, etc, etc…, we end with Teresa in the hallway confronting Danielle about just walking by her and not saying hello. (I still believe Teresa instigated this episode but okay.)
Pick up this show….Danielle asks, “what is this ghetto thing you are doing?” STOP THE PRESSES! Honey, and yes I did say honey, any time someone is going off does not mean it is “ghetto”. Moving on… Of course Teresa is offended because she jumps up and starts talking about her FIVE MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE. Which of course, Danielle politely lets slip, is in FORECLOSURE! MY GOODNESS, if that didn’t set Teresa off. “It’s not in foreclosure!” Da..Da…Da…Daaaaaaaaaaa…SUPERGIRL, Jacqueline in her Superwoman stance proceeds to step in at this point and declare, “Teresa’s house is NOT in foreclosure.” Jacqueline, I have to give you the “sit the fuck down card” we ALL saw the court papers just as Danielle did. Your friend is 11 million dollars in debt and that is why she got SO offended and tried to deflect the attention from what Danielle said and tried to act like a bad ass. Pay your bills honey and then you can actually wear a chinchilla jacket and not worry about the IRS coming to swoop it off your back.
For some reason there is running, Danielle’s heel breaks, and she limps/runs/is carried out of the establishment. She cowers in the corner and starts crying with Kim G in a prostitution whore outfit beside her. Danielle proceeds to say “she can’t move, she can’t move.” Honey your heel is broke, not your leg. Limp your ass to the car and keep it moving. But that would be too much like right, huh? Then Ashley comes into the picture and PULLS Danielle’s hair for what appears to me to be NO REASON! As a former weave wearer, I must say, having your weave pulled hurts like no one’s business. Although it may seem like a little hair tug, IT HURTS! There is more pressure on your scalp because your hair underneath the weave is corn-rowed into tight braids to your scalp and then sewn into your hair. So it is basically like having your hair ripped out of your scalp. AND IT HURTS! So although Danielle has been known to over exaggerate, it DOES hurt and hurt badly especially being pulled from the back, which jerks your neck. Danielle probably was in pain…pain enough to call the police…HELL NO! Pain enough to take her butt home…yes! But going home? Would that be Danielle? Of course not. It is Hawaii 5-0 time!
Danielle proceeds to call Crockett and Tubbs with Kim G (why is she a part of the show again?) while Jacqueline declares, she is now having stomach issues once everything is going on. Ummmmmmmmmm HELLO! Perhaps you should have had stomach issues a longgggggggggg time ago like when you were pregnant with Ashley and should have been more of a mom instead of a friend! Hello! Jacqueline finally MANS UP and tells Ashley to go home to which of course her wonderful daughter says, “you picked Danielle over me.” My…my…how I wish Ashley was my daughter. All I need is ONE NIGHT! I promise you, ONE NIGHT! All that attitude would be cleared up REAL QUICK!
Of course, Kim (whatever initial) gets in the car with Danielle, to remind her to CALM DOWN! Teresa then proceeds to stand outside the car and stalk Danielle. Ummmmmmmmm, if Danielle is not on your mind, here is a thought, GO HOME and try to cook some more books or something! She is in the car, JUST LEAVE IT ALONE! Jacqueline proceeds to attempt to get Teresa to leave and Teresa asks, “are you scared?” Sigh….I promise I am so tired of Teresa trying to act so hard core. Honey, you could not last a minute in my neck of the woods. We don’t talk much. We handle business!
Kim (whatever initial) gets out the car and Danielle in her weave pulling painful stupor says, “don’t let Kim hit anyone” Ummmmmmmmmmm honey…TRUST ME, Kim is NOT going to hit anyone! TRUST ME! I will bet the farm on it! Kim (whatever initial) then says, after she is out of the car of course, “I want to get my bag and my phone”. The REAL reason she got out of the car! Let me toss this in, Kim (whatever initial) is a TOTAL MANIPULATIVE INSTIGATOR! I cannot stand her. I see right through her!
She goes back to the table to let Teresa know, she is not taking sides…okay….
Teresa tried to talk to Ashley after the altercation but what is the point. She just acted like a raving lunatic. The blind leading the blind! The other Kim with the store says, “you were just trying to protect your mom,” to Ashley and I am thinking, huh?! What fashion show has she been attending? Next!
Sirens now…okay here come the police…nothing dramatic…hardly impressed…however…the Oscar goes to…Danielle Staub. Quivering voice, tears, shaking, “I just wanna go home” speech. Of course when the police ask, “are you PHYSICALLY hurt?” She replies, “I am emotionally hurt.” Okay, Danielle. Really? All these cops because your emotions are hurt? Okay.
Of course, she wants people arrested, wants peace in the Middle East, wants no more taxes, wants to end world hunger….it’s a reality show honey. No one is going to jail. Trust me.
When they go talk to Ashley what is soooooooooooo funny to me is, she says, “I grabbed her extensions, not her hair so technically I didn’t even grab her hair.” TOO FUNNY! Honey, it all hurts the same once it is sewn in. You don’t get a pass because you snatched out fake hair. LOL!
Of course the police go to talk to Teresa and she acts like Gomer Pyle. What fight? Danielle who? What fashion show? I’m confused. You want my I.D.? No I don’t have an I.D. I am thinking, YOU STARTED THIS WHOLE THING! Also, HONEY, you still have a, “I just had a baby stomach” which is NOT to talk about your weight but IS to talk about why are you fighting and you STILL have baby weight? You JUST had a baby! Chill-lax! Enhance your calm!

Okay…the rest of the show…boring. Teresa and Jacqueline relay the story to Caroline who was VERY correct. Danielle got EXACTY what she wanted! EXACTLY! They fed right into it like fools!

The engerist-boring.
Albie-Needs to study for REAL!
Ashley-In order to be politically correct on Lynn’s blog I will not say what she needs but trust me I could handle here in one sitting!

Blogging is hard. I think I covered a lot and shoot maybe some of it is out of sequence. Hell some of may not have happened. I had a few glasses of wine. LOL! At any rate, this show is still horrible and this one episode did nothing to pull it out of the depths of bovine spillage. We already know what happens which is NOTHING so who cares. Lynn, I pass the blogging back on to you and those that hold the throne! Thanks for letting me give my two cents. This blog and a dollar MIGHT get ya a cup of coffee although I doubt it! HA!

~Love HD!

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515 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin RHONJ The Fight July 12, 2010

  1. whocares? says:

    I say…we have our own vote on Lynns blog.

    Who do you think started the fight?

    Danielle
    Teresa
    Ashley
    Jac

    I think we might get a true and accurate vote this time. Are you reading this Andy?

    • amber says:

      LOVE IT!! Thought exactly the same thing…teresa started it fo sho…great guest blogger by the way..loved reading it! Great job : )

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Teresa

      • BamaBelle says:

        TERESA—-STARTED-IT!!!!!!

        • Sha2000 says:

          Teresa 100%.
          I don’t like Danielle but this really seemed like like bullying, systematic or otherwise. Like Sonja Morgan said you shouldn’t pick on someone who’s mentally ill; in Danielle’s case I think we got a peek at whats inside last night & the harsh exterior we have seen many times previously is a protective barrier. Still don’t like her or any of these “ladies”.

          Enjoyed the guest blogger’s comments, well said.

    • It’s more complicated for me. This is how I see it.

      I believe it’s 50/50 Teresa/Danielle if Teresa’s intention to talk to Danielle was to try to be civil and make nice.

      But I really don’t think that Teresa’s intentions were pure, and I do think that both women could have given a little more effort to make nice, so I see the split at 75/25 with Teresa being the bigger instigator.

      So, Teresa would be the main instigator in my book, with Danielle having a hand in it too.

      • krone says:

        I’d agree if even the tiniest little part of me thought it possible Teresa “honestly” wanted to speak with Danielle drama-free. I don’t though and really believe Teresa was the instigator. I also thought GrannyKim delighted in chaos when she tried to convince Danielle to stop and talk. She knew no good would come of it and continues to seek camera time in her ongoing effort (audition) to become a “housewife”next year. This is probably the only show with no nredeeming qualities; There’s not even one character that i find likeable or can relate to in any way.

      • quincyillinois says:

        Teresa started the fight. Jacqueline, Ashely and Danielle were all to happy to participate. I don’t believe Danielle was afraid for one moment. Calculating… yes. Afraid…no.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Vote: Teresa started it. Ashley should have been arrested!

      • BamaBelle says:

        I definately think Ashley should have been arrested! Why wasn’t she? She has NO BUSINESS putting her hands on ANYBODY for ANY REASON! She’s a LIAR to boot-NOBODY told her Danielle hit her MAMA! She made that up… and, her stupid MAMA and her stupid FAMILY believe her because they’re STUPID!

        Sorry, but this episodes makes me so mad! I watched about a minute of WWHL-no way was I going to listen to those two IDIOTS lie and laugh about what they did! Teresa’s in 11 million worth of debt… why, why will she get to keep her house? Why doesn’t she have to sell it to settle with some of the creditors?

    • dear who cares? last night i posted that there was something wrong w/ the voting….you could not vote for Danielle……..i tried over 15 times and reply was “you can’t direct message Bravo’lebrities and/or you sent an invalid text.” I wanted to see if i was doing something wrong, so i voted for Ashley…it went right thru. When it finally dawned on me that the vote was rigged I felt like the 5 year old who was just told “There is no Santa Claus” I hope Im wrong..maybe there just was a problem with the “lines”. Id be happy to find out there was a problem…. I know this is ridiculous, but I am devastated . Watching that show last night was horrifying. Truly a”jump the shark” event.
      Did anyone else try to vote?
      Thanks for letting me vent…………..

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I voted but for Teresa and had no problem.

      • Im so sorry.. i made a mistake when i originally wrote this..i voted for Theresa, NOT DANIELLE. voting for Theresa was the problem. I feel so silly,,,my first time blogging and i screw it up!!
        I truly apologize for the error

    • twoile says:

      TERESA

    • Dawn says:

      Teresa instigated and propelled the entire fight. She has no class. None.

    • Denise Krohn says:

      Teresa definitely started it!!!!

  2. whocares? says:

    I left out my own vote, lol.

    Hands down, Teresa instigated the whole scene…

  3. anniieee says:

    I missed the episode… hell, I hate em..don’t watch….Went to see my Chorus teacher (from my school) sing for money at a bar..much more fun than NJ..picking lint off an ol sweater is more fun. BUT I loved your blog. Great job… still find all of them tasteless, tacky and pure ol southern white trash. BUT you did a wonderful job!

  4. tuzentswurth says:

    HD…..ROFLMAO , I enjoyed your blog immensely,….bovine spillage, indeed! Thanks for the humor.
    My only dissention; I say Assley got what she deserved. She had no business laying a hand on Danielle and I think D was right to call the police and press charges. Somebody needs to bring this girl into the real world and mommy can’t do it because Assley has no respect and no brains. She comes by it honestly though.

  5. AutumnLeaves says:

    I am all for calling some bitches out when they act like raving lunatics, even if it means making a mountain out of a molehill once in a while.

    Danielle was there at the invitation of KimD(runk), who insisted she show up, then bitched because she was ‘late’, then ignored her when she did arrive. Childish, and more sucking up to the mean girls for quality air time, at the direction of Bravo.

    Danielle has every right to finally say “enough” and call their hand at their constant melodrama. She’s entitled NOT to be the butt of more verbal abuse from Teresa, Jac, etc. when she was ASSURED IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN by the hostess if she showed up. She’s entitled to attend the event without being chased down and run outside with two screaming banshees charging after her calling her names like coke whore, kidnapper, etc. (Even on WWHL, they just can’t stop with the insults. KimGranny is right, they’re truly obsessed with Danielle Staub.)

    Ashley Holmes had already spent months picking at Danielle, to the amusement and encouragement of the entire Manzo Mob and their associates. (Do you wonder what her future in-laws think about her? Would you want YOUR son marrying *that*, or into that fambly?) She lied about why, which makes her a known liar. Ewww.

    Having your hair ripped out of your head hurts, whether it’s rooted in, or weaved into rooted hair. It HURTS when it’s pulled out at the roots. I’d be glad to rip some of Ashley’s hair of her head, just to prove the point.

    She called her mom two-faced. So despicably disloyal to her mom! And yet, probably true, because it’s not the first time Ashley’s accused her mom of lying on-camera about things that happened off-camera. Maybe the Mob will succeed in knocking off that huge chip on her shoulder. We can only hope.

    Bottom line: RHONJ has jumped the shark this season.

    • kats2 says:

      Autumn – this comment of yours made my night and sums up how I feel, thank you!

      “Having your hair ripped out of your head hurts, whether it’s rooted in, or weaved into rooted hair. It HURTS when it’s pulled out at the roots. I’d be glad to rip some of Ashley’s hair of her head, just to prove the point.”

    • Snarkella says:

      I couldn’t agree with you more!

    • BamaBelle says:

      AutumnLeaves…

      You wrote EXACTLY the way I feel!… EXACTLY!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      ITA

      I do not like Danielle at all. I think she is crazy and manipulative, I think she is a liar a drama queen….BUT

      Theresa is the face of this fiasco- she must think everyone is as dumb as she is if she thinks their are people willing to believe her intent was just to say “Hi” and hope to clear the air.

      Ashely had no right to lay her hands on Danielle, I don’t believe her excuse that she thought that Danielle had hit her mother since after being told several times that didn’t happen instead of being remorseful or at least admitting she overreacted, she went onto laugh and brag about it.

      Chris handled her well and I believe he is consistent in dealing with her- but I am sure she is getting mixed messages from her mother. If she were my daughter, she would be working however many jobs it took to pay back the cost of the lawyer. I also don’t think Ashely should be allowed to appear on the show or blog. She physically assaulted a cast member of the show and should be dismissed.

      Danielle had every right to call the police and pursue this criminally. I’m actually a bit surprised she had enough rational to use the law correctly instead of calling her goon squad in.

      If Danielle ever decides to take the law into her own hands and lay a beating on Theresa, she should probably aim for that giant forehead- she wouldn’t miss it.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        all good points! – Ashley should not be on the show period. She isn’t close to being a housewife – she treats her mom like crap and while she may be 18 and an adult legally – she acts like she is 5.

  6. Denise says:

    Enjoyed reading your blog!

    I’m honestly shocked that that smug little thug Ashley assaulted Danielle. Despite the word-slinging and texts going back and forth between those two, sticks and stones people! Words are one thing but when you put your hands on another person it is assault (learned that from watching Judge Judy!) ARREST ASHLEY’S ASS!!

    Now, ironically, I would love nothing more than to SLAP the smirk off Ashley’s petulant face. Call me contrary, I guess. She is ignorant and arrogant and just.does.not.get.it. Jacqueline was NOT siding with Danielle when she told Ashley to leave the parking lot; she was trying to protect her snotty little brat.

    And Delusional Danielle. I have no doubt that she was physically hurt by the weave snatching, however her hysterical crying was over.the.top. And when the cops ask if she was injured, she says she’s hurt emotionally when her first reply should have been about the physical assault and injury. But when D starts off with telling the police of her emotionally injuries, well, we know she’s acting her crazy little heart out.

    Kim G – wearing a dress that almost showed us her vagina, stirred up her usual shit. She wants to be cast as a permanent Housewife and is desperately clawing herself a niche.

    On WWH Andy asked viewers to vote on who caused the fight on tonight’s show: Most definitely Teresa. She claimed on the episode that she’s a nice person and that she just wanted to say hello to Danielle, but on WWH she admits that she wanted to confront Danielle about some rumors that were going around. She’s rude to the police when they want a statement and tells them to question the crack-whore in the car outside. Later she reinvents history and tells her big mook of a husband (who can barely sustain an interest in her tale) that she called Danielle “honey” because she calls everyone honey, but in the episode it was obviously used in a hostile, derogatory manner.

    In the parking lot, even Jacqueline got into the fray, screaming at Danielle that she’s read the court papers or something along those lines. Yes, Jacqueline and Teresa all gussied up in their rat-terrier little fur jackets.

    Bottom line: I would not have missed this episode for the world.

    • Squirrels says:

      The name calling is assault legally. To touch someone with intent to cause bodily harm is battery.

      • quincyillinois says:

        I think Danielle could still file a civil law suit against Ashley. She has the event on tape. Ashley could pay Danielle thousands of dollars in that settlement.

        I didn’t know that calling a name was a crime unless it is racially motivated and against a minority. So… when I called you a member of the Rodentia… I was making a joke… like my flying sky siting… I think you are a very nice Mammal.

        Your friend, quincy…

  7. krone says:

    Great blog! Can I come over while you “tame” Trashley? Between us we can at the very least incorporate some sleep deprivation on the little brat. My daughters and even granddaughters(to a far lesser extent) had their problems, but if they even thought abt going after a woman their mother’s age they’d get whiplash at th very least from trying to look at the people who’d be “talking” to them and yes, in my family, children do have to look at/acknowledge the adults who are speaking to them. Terrorista and Tacky Jacky are so classless! and irresponsible!! and their “appearance” on the aftershow? Horrendous! and I was appalled at Andy’s giggles and apparent joy at the spectacle on the show. Once, just once, I’d like him to ask them WTF they were thinking. Instead, he sits there like a star-struck ass and gives them a pass on answering for their actions. Sooooooooooooo disappointed in him. Again, great blog. Thanks so much:)

  8. JillousyHater says:

    Theresa started it. BUT, Ashley took it to a whole different level that it should never have been taken to….Ashley is a liar. I just watched the show a 2nd time. Right after she did it, she very clearly said she did it because she wanted to, she did not say anything about defending her mother. She later made up that part about saying “someone” told her that Danielle hit her mother

    • Snarkella says:

      Yep. I noticed that too. She and Teresa both lied through their teeth. I never liked Danielle but those two were definitely in the wrong.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        agreed all liars and stupid enough to do so on tape! Ashley wasn’t protecting anyone she was going for air time on the show.

  9. lillybee says:

    Definitely Theresa, but how was Ashley protecting her mom? Completely uncalled for.

    • cusi77 says:

      About Ashley trying to protect her mother… I do not buy it! That girl is not telling the truth… is not what she said immediatelly, she came with that excuse later on…

      • krone says:

        I agree with you %100 Cusi. She thought it would buy her some points with the mob/family she belongs to.

  10. Dani says:

    I didn’t watch the show, I just think it is such trash. I did see some of WWH, and I am voting for Teresa. She is not a nice person no matter how many times she say’s it . I think Ashly is a brat and I wonder if Jac is proud of her for getting into a fight that she had no business getting into. I thought on WWH Jac was making excuses for Ashly, I also thought Teresa showed herself to be a low class B$#^h.

    • Dani says:

      Sorry, I meant to add that your blog was very good HD. I am completely up to date and I didn’t have to watch the show thank you.

  11. krone says:

    Forgot to vote. Or it wasn’t there when I. (I’m a 2 finger typist). TERRORISTA started it,– no question. and BRAVO choreographed it. I’m almost done with Bravo except for the pure delight that is BGM

  12. whocares? says:

    Looked up “Simple Assault” this is what I found:

    There can be no assault if the act does not produce a true apprehension of harm in the victim. There must be a reasonable fear of injury. The usual test applied is whether the act would induce such apprehension in the mind of a reasonable person. The status of the victim is taken into account. A threat made to a child might be sufficient to constitute an assault, while an identical threat made to an adult might not.

    Virtually all jurisdictions agree that the victim must be aware of the danger. This element is not required, however, for the attempted battery type of assault. A defendant who throws a rock at a sleeping victim can only be guilty of the attempted battery assault, since the victim would not be aware of the possible harm.

    • krone says:

      We do know that Trashley was fined and Imay be imagining it but think she was also assigned some community service of some sort

    • Maxine49 says:

      It was assault…no doubt. I am an attorney. Criminal statutes vary by state, but suffice it to say that assault is the fear of an imminent harmful touching. There is no doubt that Teresa and Jacqueline assaulted Danielle…and Ashley committed battery as she actually . Teresa and Jacqueline are guilty of #3, below and should have been charged accordingly. Perhaps Danielle did not press, or dropped, charges against them. They also could have been charged with Disorderly Conduct.

      Here’s the NJ statute:

      Simple Assault: N.J.S.A. 2C:12-1

      In New Jersey, Simple Assault is governed by N.J.S.A. 2C:12-1 which states in pertinent part:

      § 2C:12-1. Assault

      a. Simple assault. A person is guilty of assault if he:

      (1) Attempts to cause or purposely, knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another; or

      (2) Negligently causes bodily injury to another with a deadly weapon; or

      (3) Attempts by physical menace to put another in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.

      • Anne says:

        Maxine49,

        You know as well as I do that the statute is a starting point in any case which the State would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt, but it is clarified by case law. There is no automatic guilty verdict in the law at any pt in time.
        SIMPLE ASSAULT, N.J.S.A. 2C:12-1a(3):
        A person commits a simple assault if he/she attempts, by physical menace, to put another in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.
        In order for you to find the defendant committed a simple assault, the State must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt:
        1. that the defendant purposely attempted to put Danielle Staub in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.
        2. that the defendant did so by physical menace.
        State v. Brown, 228 N.J.Super 211 (App Div 1988), rev’d on other grounds 118 N.J. 595 (1990).
        This charge is applicable to an attempt under a “substantial step” theory. N.J.S.A. 2C:5-1a(3). If the facts of the case warrant, the charge should be tailored to address the appropriate attempt theory.
        “Substantial Step” Defined:
        A criminal attempt requires that the actor take a “substantial step” toward the commission of a crime. For an act to be considered a substantial step, it must be strongly corroborative of the firmness of the actor’s purpose to carry out the crime.

        So if we were to try and charge Jac and Teresa we likely would fail the “Substantial Step” which is needed under § 2C:12-1. Assault(a)(3). We would have to have corrobative evidence that Jac or Teresa were going to commit an assault on Danielle’s person and that they took a “substantial step” towards furtherance of that assault in order to charge either of them. I think there is a lack of corroborative evidence to support contention and that is why they were not charged. Merely running after Danielle and shouting or wanting to speak to her when she is protected by two large body guards is not enough. IMO. That is the beauty of the law both criminal and civil it is all perception on how you argue.

        I find what happened disgusting and Teresa did instigate it, but the charge was Simple Assault was justified only to Ashely. The grading of Simple Assault conviction is typically a disorderly persons offense. Where the simple assault arises in the context of a consensual fight or scuffle, then it is a petty disorderly persons offense. Since, Danielle stopped to speak to Teresa and then cause the arguement to escalate it is likely deemed a consenual fight or scuffle. IMO.

  13. cusi77 says:

    Thank you HD! It was more entretaining reading your blog than watching this episode. The truth is I have been waiting for something to justify Bravo’s NJ HW release… bad behavior, nonsense, does not do it! No wonder why Dina left! Teresa’s behavior makes her friends look bad. Ashley played dirty and from the back, she needs to learn that bad behavior has consequences. Wrong is wrong. I like Caroline and family. I will not be watching these ladies anymore! Done!

    • krone says:

      I don’t know Cusi: were we separated at birth? I feel exactly as you do. I’m thinking this is the end for me as well although I’ll continue to read here; I’d miss all of you too much if I didn’t check in here.

  14. I didn’t find one thing funny in that episode either!
    The only cute thing was baby Nick and he didn’t say anything.
    The only part of it that made me actually lol, is how you described Teresa’s attitude once the police showed-up.
    One thing about Jersey cops, they have a way of getting even, so I hope for Teresa’s sake that they were NOT watching, because it was obvious that Teresa started it and the fact that she tried to make them look stupid is probably going to cost her.
    I have some quotes from tonight up on http://www.njhousewives.blogspot.com .
    I know that everybody thinks that Ashley is a brat, but I still feel sorry for her.
    When Chris said that she was turning into Danielle, ouch! But those harsh words were needed, and I agree her, “I can do anything I want.”, attitude is just ignorant.
    But there’s something about the way that she just keeps agreeing with everybody about what a jerk she is, and then when Jackie said on WWHL that Ashley just butts-into Jackie’s business, it was sad to me.
    When they show Albie and he gets complete support even though he has a pretty weak no excuse for not getting help at school before it was too late, well, the way that Ashley has been treated this whole series screams in comparison to me.

    • But the main difference is that Albie didn’t harass, then attack someone else without just cause, like Ashley did. It could be true that Albie waited too long before seeking help or he may not have applied himself hard enough to his studies. He’s picking himself up and going to give it another try and therefore deserves complete support. Just because someone may fail the first time doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be supported. 🙂 Don’t support a “poor pitiful me” mentality, but do support someone who will try to move forward and overcome a failure, even if that failure was the person’s own fault to begin with.

      Ashley, too, has been supported throughout this whole ordeal that she has caused herself, but in a way that is trying to help her grow as an individual and take responsibility for her actions. Ashley’s behavior has been atrocious and they need to try to make her take account of it or not support her any more.

      To me, Ashley has been given more chances to straighten up and more support than she deserves because her behavior has been criminal–harassment and physical attack.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        I think law school is tough and if the school says, look you can’t keep up, you can’t do this, maybe another vacation would be wise.
        Are the courts going to stop and hold up b/c Albie has a learning disability. Do you want to hire this guy for $300 bucks an hour when he can’t do the work?
        Working through a disability doesn’t mean you get to do whatever you want and everybody else has to slow down and acommodate you, it means you work to your ability with reasonable acommodations being made to assist you.
        Does “the family” need a lawyer that badly?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I wonder if the school he was attending was a state funded school or a private school – the later doesn’t have to provide anything but giving him a referal number was clearly not followed up (one phone call isn’t enough especially if he was serious about his academic probabtion and staying in school). Me thinks his parents don’t know the whole truth of the matter and look like chumps supporting him.

  15. I watched because I thought there was an actual fight between Ashley and Danielle and I wasnted to see for myself what happened. I didn’t know it was a cowardly attack by Ashley on a cowering loud mouth Danielle and from behind, no less! Lowest you can go attacking from behind (unless in self defense)! It takes real courage to do that! NOT!

    Jeers to Bravo for supporting a bunch of trashy loudmouth bullies and rewarding bad and illegal behavior.

    • Maxine49 says:

      Self-defense can never be claimed from an attack from behind…self-defense is only legally “allowed” when someone is attacking you or about to attack you…if someone has their back to you then they are in retreat and then self-defense is no longer justified. Danielle never physically threatened or attacked anyone and she was always in retreat mode….as unsavory as she is, she is not legally at fault here no matter how much you may dislike her and how hard it may be to see her as a sympathetic character….thankfully, the law does not differentiate between those we like and those we dislike.

  16. MBDEA says:

    Excellent POVs and summaries. Nice….love this blog.

    I’ll got back a little farther and venture to say that both Krummy Kims started this fight with Kim-what’s-her-fugly-face have a “change of heart” after throwing her out of her booty-tique to persuade Danielle to attend her (gag and rolling my eyes) “fashion show.”
    Now, you had to wonder at the point –why? C’mon, Kim-what’s-her-fugly-face was not suspiciously forgiving and insistent? Kim-what’s-her-fugly-face set dumb pathetic Danielle up at that point.

    Then Kim-old-va-Gee’s relentless insistence that Danielle sticks around to take Teresa’s obvious taunting –anther set-up.

    Lastly, we ALL saw exactly what Teresa’s motives were in insisting to wait for Danielle in the hallway (dumb-shit Jacquiline even saw it coming) and no one bought Teresa’s motives in just trying to be “nice.”

    In short, this fight was set-up by Bravo, the two Kims and Teresa. Poor pathetic Danielle played right into it and I would LOVE to see Ass-ley her her ass kicked (that’s right, I said it, her ASS kicked).

    Teresa-troll is NOT tough. She is loud, tacky, obvious, and moronic.

    • krone says:

      BRAVA MBDEA!!!!! Great post! easpecially about the auditioning, fugly Kims. Remember when shopKim announced at the Police fund raiser/bribery party that Danielle owed her $400.00? I thought at the time that was unethical or even illegal to give out that info, drunk or not. At the very least, I’d think most people watching will think twice before doing business in her shop; who wants a drunken proprietor announcing their credit line at a crowded party? Bad business and if I were Danielle I’d at the very least call the Better business Bureau or the equivalent and try to lodge a formal complaint. Here’s hoping the Guidice’s owe much more and she’s stuck with no payment resulting from their bankruptcy. Karma’s a bitch.

      • MBDEA says:

        Thank you. I totally forgot Kim made that announcement until you posted. Ugh, the whole steaming pile of those tacky women just make me vomit.

      • Maxine49 says:

        It was not illegal or unethical for Kim D (for dumb) to announce Danielle’s debt. It might be slander if it’s not true, but that’s not illegal (criminal), although actionable as a civil matter. It’s not a matter for the BBB either. I do have a feeling that Teresa stuck Kim for a lot more than $400…Karma’s a bitch…and these bitches deserve on another.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Teresa called the mansion an investment property during the whole foreclosure yelling. No bankruptsy filing excludes investment properties – IMO she is lying through her teeth and in real time as she said it again on WWLH. Hope Bravo films the eviction!

  17. Goosey says:

    Great job, HD. Had me laughing my azz off – I now have no azz. Hope to read more from you.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @goosey…you can always borrow some of Teresa’s – it looked like she was an azz smuggler last night!

  18. Satchels of Gold says:

    T-E-R-E-S-A

  19. TT in OC (formerly An American Alien) says:

    I can never watch a full episode of RHONJ. Five minutes (or maybe less), I had to switch channel. I can’t stand any of these women and the show has this feel of a mafia family.

    Thanks to HD’s blog, I don’t have to watch and I ready have a pretty clear idea what have happened. From what I read so far, my vote is for Teresa.

  20. felony stupid says:

    Ashley is an incredibly immature brat.

    I’m not going to defend her, because I can’t and quite frankly, I don’t want to. But I will say that I think that it was Jac & Ashley against the world for some time and after Jac married Chris, I think they were still this little team instead of mother and daughter. Jac is immature – she looks to Chris as a father figure and puts herself on the same level as her daughter (they go to Chris to resolve their fights as if they are siblings). And in turn Chris makes unilateral decisions w/o Jac’s input because he is in the parental role.

    Anywho, the family dynamic has changed with the new kids and now Ashley is on the outskirts looking at this cute little family that has no real place for her. She acts out, she’s petty, she’s rude – all traits of a little girl desperate for attention and, as several of you have pointed out, acceptance from the Chris’ family. I don’t think Ashley really gives two sh*ts about Danielle, she is simply a tool that allows her to bond with a group of people who have always seen her as Jac’s baggage. Lashing out at Danielle has given her an in with Caroline and Co.

    It is what it is and IMO I don’t think there is much anyone can do to “change” Ashley. It is pretty late in the game, but what her parents can do is make the mature decision to refuse to be part of her BS. Most 18 year olds pull that “I can do whatever I want” crap but it takes approx. 10 seconds and the sound of a checkbook slamming shut to end it.

    This is the second time in so many episodes we’ve heard Chris let Ashley have it and tell her to shut her big trap. From Ashley’s reaction, this is probably nothing new. From what we’ve seen, I suspect that they rarely follow through and Jac and Chris undermine each other (remember Chris buying Ashley that car in Season 1 after Jac said she hadn’t earned it?). I would also lay odds that Jac and Ashely giggled and gossiped together more than once about Chris and what a big meanie he is while Jac slipped her some cash.

    At the end of the day we have a little girl who doesn’t know how to take care of herself and is not in a situation where the adults around her are guiding her on what is appropriate. It’s all rather sad.

    • krone says:

      Wow Stupid (misnomer if ever there was one), great points and insights. I have absolutely NO sympathy for Assley but def see what you’re saying. Trashing Danielle is the ONE Manzo Mob tradition she can join in on and even earn some points on.(especially in the twisted reasoning of an immature and insecure 19 yr. old) Thanks for the insight.

      • felony stupid says:

        aw, thanks! 🙂

        • twoile says:

          Great insight, excellent observations , thank you 4 Ur summary. I did NOT watch the last episode….seems as though the excerpts for previews told enough of the story……..I’d had an overload of the TACKY hwonj. I would B shocked if Bravo actually does another season w/ this tasteless intelectually challenged group of.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Isn’t she still fighting with Danielle on Twitter and the Bravo blogs? I haven’t heard that Chris kicked her out.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Your second paragraph is ….nail, meet head.
      Maybe you should change your name to “Felony Perceptive”.
      You figured out that family dynamic for sure!

      I actually thought what Terrorista and Jac(ass) were engaging in was assault and Trashley/Assley tipped over the line to battery. Glad she got arrested and convicted, the dumbass had no defense since there was vidoetaped evidence showing her clearly boasting about it. Can she get stupider.
      Chris and his dumb middle aged child-like bride need to tell that dumb girl to get in school to try and get some intelligence or get her lazy stupid ass a JOB and join the real world or she is headed for nothing but trouble ALL of her life.

      Next up- Terrorista…when she was smarting off to the police and denying having any ID, they should have hauled her ass into the precinct till someone came with ID and vouched for her. Sounds like someone didn’t want a check to be run. I can’t imagine police putting up with that kind of sass unless they were intimidated by the camera or maybe aren’t allowed to mess with the Judas, I mean Guidace family for some reason. If a policeman ever asks any of you for ID, just try to start asking him why, telling him he doesn’t need it and then saying you have none. Please report back here and let me know how that worked out for you. Especially if YOU have just instigated some stupid brawl they have to waste time on, I mean investigate.

      • jennifer says:

        Correct me if I am worng but doesn’t battery require a weapon being involved?

      • BamaBelle says:

        Around here, if the police asks for “ID”… you give them “ID”. If you say “Huh? What?… I don’t know why you’re talking to me… NO! I don’t have any ID”… around here… you’ll go to JAIL or have somebody bring your ID… if you keep running your mouth… you’ll go to jail!

        Ashley should have been arrested… the police officer saw the hair she pulled out… there were witnesses to what Ashley did! Around here… the person who was assaulted another person would have went to jail whether the other person involved wanted them to or not. I think maybe the Bravo producers had something to do with Teresa getting away with NOT showing her ID and Ashley NOT being arrested! Saying, it was all for a TV show… BULLSHIT!

        • tuzentswurth says:

          EXACTLY!! I’ve never known a policeman that would put up with that. They are trained to get a situation under control and having Teresa mouthing off to them like that made them look bad! I have no idea why they put up with that other than maybe they were afraid of the cameras. In my neck of the woods, you’d be cuffed and taken in until you COULD show who the hell you are! Her non-cooperation was astounding….entitled bankruptcy whore.

          • Robin says:

            @ tuzentswurth,

            entitled bankruptcy whore!!!!

            I cannot tell you how hard I laughed when I read that.I think Teresa should be known from now on as the “entitled bankruptcy whore”!

            TC,Robin

    • Squirrels says:

      ” I don’t think Ashley really gives two sh*ts about Danielle, she is simply a tool that allows her to bond with a group of people who have always seen her as Jac’s baggage. Lashing out at Danielle has given her an in with Caroline and Co.”

      Therein lies the rub. These excuses for women will use anyone to promote their cause to destroy Danielle. She has been used as a tool. Gets the heat off of them and they get to giggle from the sidelines. Well, that’s maturity for you. Why a mother would allow this to unfold on TV boggles me.

      Assley is not a cast member. She has always been superfluous to the plot and for Bravo to not only give her a blogging venue, but to applaud her criminal behavior makes me truly ill.

      All Andy is doing is making money. He couldn’t care less about the damage being done to each and everyone of them. Yes, they bring it on themselves, but none of this would exist were it not for BRAVO leading them by the nose or (in T’s case), forehead hairs.

      This type of cheered on lunacy, which does nothing to entertain the masses beyond those who live this way themselves, just may bite Bravo on the ass someday. I hope it takes a huge chunk out of Andy personally. HE IS SCUM in my book for not just allowing it, but the drool that running down his chin.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jacky married Chris when Ashley was five and her parents were helping out when she was in Vegas doing her odd jobs. So Ashley has had parental guideance all along – she has likely never been held responsible for anything she has ever done or said. She doesn’t respect her mother and her mother doesn’t respect herself enough to be treated any differently than what her daughter does to her.

  21. ShyAsrai says:

    I thought Andy finally jumped the shark with his horrendous treatment of Danielle when she was on WWHL. Not to say she’s not a weird trashy wench, but it’s his job, I would think, to treat each HW with the same level of respect. Those “Grandma Wrinkles boobs” he did was really really terrible. He’s never done anything that comes close to that to any other HW.

    Trashley is SUCH an ignorant, self-entitledd punk …… ehhhh I’ve already been through teenagers of my own and watching her makes me nauseated. I was glad to see her step-father tell her to STFU or GTHO from under his roof. But I don’t think Trashley should get the idea that it’s because it’s Danielle.. she needs to STFU period. And so does her mother.

    Neander-esa is another nasty mess. The ghetto comment I think was about her weaving her neck around like a irritated cobra. It’s so obvious it was the ‘foreclosure’ comment that ignited her rockets. Her retelling to icky Joe was so skewed. Just how blatantly full of shite can this woman be before she’s just Danielle Part Deux? (I have to say, it seems there is nary a forehead among her brood. OK that’s awful to pick on little ones – I know it.)

    I am completely and totally sick of this new trend of women 40 and 50+ dressing like 19-yr-olds and/or wearing dresses up to their crotches. Just the thought of all those abused g-strings is sickening. Please! For the love of all that is good and decent in this world, have some dignity and cover your old legs and pancake butts. It’s a fact of life, ladies, that being thin DOES NOT equal a 20 or 30 year reduction in age. In fact, older women look lovely with a bit of softness. Even if older women are extremely toned they look gristley and icky… just look at Kellamity, Madonna and Sarah Jessica Parker! UGH.

    Well, all the RH shows seem to have devolved into Jerry Springer reruns and I was tired of that years and years ago.

    • emt2 says:

      I didn’t watch the show but I completely agree with everything you said. The show is just Jerry Springer New Jersey-style and Andy is looking more and more like a complete asswipe for how much he condones the behavior and his obvious partiality to certain cast members. This show is pure trash and so are all of the castmembers. Andy has become like a pimp for bad-tempered whores. He really has, in my opinion.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Yes! I’m not even as old as Kim G but I still don’t dress like a teenager. It’s inappropriate and honestly just makes you look older than you really are.

      • quincyillinois says:

        LOL, I don’t wear pole dance outfits and try to show my my moves either.

        I read that Kim G has 3 kids with a daughter still in the home. Her husband does not live with them, but no divorce is pending. She’s rich and bored, a lethal combination.

      • BamaBelle says:

        ShyAsrai… isn’t that the truth about these women wearing teenage clothing at their age… it looks especially trashy since they’re mothers. Not to say mother’s can’t look nice, but OMG-have some freaking dignity!

        Mamaz… how old is Kim G.?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          If you check out the crowd scenes during the country clubbing – no one but the wives were dressed like skanky prostitutes – hell Teresa looked like a hooker!

    • Snarkella says:

      I agree 100% . Well said.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      I’ve said it before, these broads truly exemplify….MUTTON DRESSED AS LAMB!

      Nothing stylish about their old asses in teenage clothes. Didn’t we all love Lynn Curtan bragging about wearing her daughter’s clothes? DID SHE LOOK IN A MIRROR? KKB is another BIG offender. The cutesy little ruffles accentuate your wrinkles, LOOK IN A MIRROR! Nobody thinks you are 18!

    • Maxine49 says:

      LOL—but then there is Raquel Welch…how the hell does she look so divine at almost 70…that woman has some DNA!

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Very true. Sophia Loren aged well too, remarkable skin on those women. But remember when Loren wore that frilly yellow dress to Academy awards a few years back, or should I say the dress wore her, …she looked older and ridiculous. It was not elegant at all as she usually is. It was way too young for her and made her look older.

      • BamaBelle says:

        So true! Good DNA and not going overboard on the plastic surgery! A woman looks better if she ages more naturally! Especially when they’re in their 70’s! A 70 year old woman isn’t suppose to look 50… it’s creepy!

        The worse plastic surgery addiction I’ve ever seen is Joan Van Ark. She looks like something from Tales of the Crypt… you can’t tell me she wouldn’t look better today if only she had left herself alone… aged more naturally, maybe just a nip and tuck here or there. What she did to herself is creepy and hard to look at!

        • viki55 says:

          OH MY!

        • tuzentswurth says:

          OMG, made me gasp audibly too. Truly horrifying!
          Let’s make a list of who never should have started cause they don’t know when to stop:
          Joan Van Ark
          Lauri Waring Peterson
          Michael Jackson- God rest his soul
          Joan Rivers-though hers is “good”
          Priscilla Presley
          Alexis Bellino

  22. ShyAsrai says:

    PS: I’m an older woman so I get to say so!! LOL

    • MBDEA says:

      LMAO! My husband would love your post…just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

      • ShyAsrai says:

        LOL exactly the Mantra my kids were sooooooo sick of hearing: “Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should!”

        My second Mantra: “Just because I won’t beat you literally to death when I find out, doesn’t mean you got away with it.”

        My third Mantra: “I will not be reduced to screaming hysterically in order to get your attention. I will beat you first.”

        What can I say… abandoned to raise 4 youngsters alone – I was a hard-ass.

    • krone says:

      Yup, we older gals get some leeway in this pc culture don’t we? I try to embrace my years and am waiting for that “wisdom” that comes with age to kick in any day now. When my daughters tried to talk me into covering the “grays”, I said that I’d earned every damn one of them. Some women age gracefully, take care of themselves and look great; others fight it tooth and nail, thinking if they dress like a 30 something, they’ll look it,- instead they come off as a bit desperate. Our culture is youth-crazy while others honor age and the wisdom that’s supposed to accompany it. (as I said, I’m still waiting for that to kick in)

      • ShyAsrai says:

        yeah, my parents seemed so mature, so certain. is it possible THEY were waiting to feel grown-up when they were 50?

        …..nah

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Here is a great illustration. One sleepless night I found a show called SUNSET DAZE on “on demand”. Apparently it is a reality show on the network WE, set in Arizona at a retirement community. I saw the 4 episodes available, don’t know if it is available to watch online, I digress. In one episode, the resident “Romeo” goes looking for a new girlfriend. What he finds at the bar/club is the best example of where these “ladies” are heading. All I can say is ….it is a good thing that the eyesight fades a bit as we age. This lady he finds has long blonde hair, is quite thin, and is dressed like a teenager. I can’t believe these people can’t see themselves!

      Now this is not a woman in the fashion industry. I would THINK that a self-proclaimed “trend-setter, style-maker” like KKB would know better, but then again, you need brain cells to think.

  23. ImaJillHater2 says:

    GREAT guest blog! Took me forever to read it – I kept losing my place because I was laughing so hard!!! TOO FUNNY!!!

    My vote for instigator = Teresa 1000%

  24. Jules says:

    I completely agree with MBDEA assessment of how this whole deal was orchestrated, and Watch What Happens Live made me even more convinced that it is true. Danielle has a boat load of issues, and to a very small extent she has taken a little bit of ownership, but not so with the other ladies, and they have less of a reason for their bad behavior.

    Teresa thinks she can layout more than $100,000 in cash for furniture, and take her girls on $2,000 shopping trips on a regular basis, and have it all on camera. Then she and her husband want to tell the courts their annual income is $79,000/year. Just shows me that both she, and her husband are idiots, and they obviusly think everyone else is. Then in relating the details of the fallout to Joe she sure minimized her part in things. She clearly was trying to start something with Danielle, and you and I both know it. Teresa has no class, but she thinks she does. She ran after Danielle, because Danielle hit a raw nerve with her house being foreclosure comment. I am equally convinced she would have physically assaulted Danielle if she had been allowed to really get her hands on her. Then, in steps Ashley who shows her Mom zero respect, and she’ll have us believe she attacked Danielle because she thought Danielle hit her mother. Sorry, I’m not buying it, and that girl needs to be taught a lesson, big time.

    So bottom line, Andy decides to give these ladies a forum to profess their 100% innocence in what went down. My take on this is as follows. Andy Cohen should have gotten the Jackhole of the week award – no better yet, he should get the jackhole of the year award. Teresa was clearly more responsible for what went down than Danielle, but I really think that Kim G. should have been included in the poll, because she orchestrated the whole thing. Based on an interview done with Kim G., it is clear she really wants a spot on the show, so, I’m wondering did she approach Bravo about a spot, and offered to stir the pot for ratings, or was she asked to by Bravo with the understanding it might garner her a spot on the next season. Kim D. is her sister-in-law, so they are working on getting themselves on the show at Danielle’s expense. Kim D. made certain she got Danielle to agree to come, and then Kim G. set Danielle up once she got there. Apparently, according to the ladies Kim G. was telling Teresa, Jacqueline, and Ashley at the fashion show the things that Danielle was saying about them – yeah, giving them a play by play. So, while Danielle is a nutbag, she was completely taken for a ride by both Kim D. and Kim G. this year. They used her for camera time, and as a vehicle for positioning themselves for roles next year. Actually makes me feel a little bit sorry for Danielle.

    It also made me mad when Andy said that Danielle should have only said maybe 7 times that she wanted to go home before she actually left, but I don’t think anybody is taking into consideration the fact that Danielle didn’t drive there. She was at the whim of Kim G., since it was her vehicle, and her driver. You can bet she told her driver to stay put. She needed time to go back inside, and talk to Teresa, and Jacqueline, and let the drama play out a little longer.

    Anyway, I am so mad, I am almost seething. I should have kept to my promise not to watch. I am considering boycotting Bravo all together. They seem willing to stoop to any level to create drama. They are so low, they will probably even bring that nut job Kelly back next year. Can you spell “Scruples”, because clearly Bravo can’t.

    On a lighter note, it was so nice to see the new episode of The Closer – Brenda is marvelously dysfunctional!!!!

    • MBDEA says:

      Yessss. Thank you. I, too, was so pissed-off about Bravo’s new low manipulative tactics, I barely managed to make sense on my post (eek). So glad you managed to understand my points despite my seething rant. So pissed at Andy, too. Maybe there needs to be a blog called “Andy Cohen is a Jackhole.”

      • Jules says:

        I agree completely. I think he will find his biggest career move mistake will be his Watch What Happens Live show. I am starting to hate him as much as Jill.

        • ShyAsrai says:

          You’re so right. Andy IS a Jackhole! I’m well and truly sick of him.

        • krone says:

          Andy has a blog right? If comments are allowed, why don’t we all go there and suggest he be jackhole of the week/month/year? It won’t get printed, (none of my posta ever are) but, someone will have to read it and perhaps word will get to him. I’m heading there right now. I tweeted him about a bunch of things e.g., providing a platform for dysfunctional Trashley, taking such joy in violence, giving total passes to T&J etc., and got no replies. Maybe he didn’t see them but I’ve yet to see him reply to any negative tweets.

          • Jules says:

            krone,

            You know, I honestly think Andy doesn’t care. He has turned into a NeNe, or a Jill. He thinks his fans won’t turn on him, and he thinks his antics are cute, but they aren’t. He’s an asshole, and thinks nothing of setting people up for a fall, and just walking away from it looking all shocked. What a crock!!!!!!! He makes my blood boil.

          • Jules says:

            Oh, I forgot to say, I have tried to post to his blog a few times, and he just won’t post my comments. Then haven’t even been mean, just cautionary. He is no different than Jill – he’ll have people believe that everyone just thinks that whatever he does it great, so he won’t post the negatives.

            • krone says:

              yeah, you’re probably right,- he’s spent waaaay too much time with despicable JZ and his “success” has gone to his head but I’m going to try anyway. If enough people write saying close to the same thing, especially about his attitude about the housewives and his obnoxious WWHL show, maybe, just maybe, he’ll start to realize that most civilized people who used to be the Bravo audience aren’t interested in Trashley’s blog, violence, bullying Manzo Mob behavior and the way he sucks up to these bitches and even joins in with them. At the same time I’m going to point to how much I enjoy positive programming like BGM and the civilized housewives. (Alex and Ramona, haha, can’t think of any others)

              • MAMAZ says:

                Jules – I couldn’t agree more. I used to think Andy was really cute and sweet back when he only did the reunion shows. But just like his friend Jill Zarin he has bought into his own hype. He’s disgusting.

      • Maxine49 says:

        That alcohol abusing numb-nut is laughing all the way to the bank, too….it’s infuriating to see this kind of behavior rewarded.

    • Snarkella says:

      I agree about Danielle leaving. Can’t believe I’m actually defending Danielle, but it looked to me like she really wanted to leave, but no one was helping her get out of there. She had no way of leaving. No driver. People standing in front of the car. The post fight drama wasn’t her fault. She wanted to go home but couldn’t.

    • BamaBelle says:

      *Standing ovation to Jules*… My thoughts exactly!

      I agree with everything you said and that’s what made Danielle sympathic to me in season~1. Those low-class pieces of CRAP made me root for Danielle who is clearly not a very sympathic character. This season, Danielle has become more disgusting, yet-I find myself wanting to defend her because “right is right and wrong is wrong”. What was done to Danielle at that so-called fashion show is inexcusable! Teresa and Ashley should have gone to jail then and there!

      I agree that Teresa would of assaulted Danielle if she hadn’t been held back. Ashley got in a cheap shot and she needs the crap beat out of her. NOBODY told her, nor did she think Danielle hit her mother-LIAR! Ashley had been itching to start something with Danielle the whole night.

      I turned WWHL about 2 minutes into the show. No way was I going to listen to those two lie like a dog. I will never watch WWHL again. Andy Cohen is as disgusting as his Monday night guests!

      • Jules says:

        Thanks Bamabelle. I big huge YUCK to the whole situation. Yeah, watch them put Kim D. and Kim G. on the show next year. These women are incredibly stupid – you know these shows won’t go no for ever, and Bravo is fickle – Kim D. has a business now, and probably alot of decent sane customers, but if I saw her behavior, and shopped at her store, by God I would stop. So you sell your soul for a minute in the limelight, and at the end of the day you’ve got nothing. Not a trade I would make.

  25. MBDEA says:

    Kama:

    That fugly strega, Teresa-the-troll, just taunted you and it would be a really great move on your part to show her what a real bitch does.

    Did you see how she mocked Danielle limping in her fantasy version of the fight she instigated? Now, that’s a taunt if I ever saw one. You’re not going to let her get away with it, are you?

    Can’t you just savor striking her down so she is forced to limp around like that forever? Would serve her right. Just sayin’.

    • MBDEA says:

      Oops, KARMA, I meant Karma (ugh stupid crumbs b/n my keys).

      Sorry about that.

      • felony stupid says:

        MBDEA – crumbs….lol! too funny!

        Oh and I agree…Karma is one ugly nasty bitch (and I hear she even has a forehead).

        • felony stupid says:

          Oh and I think Karma already got started by making sure her baby pooch was on full display in that t-shirt while she was telling Juicy Joe her edited version of events. No amount of cleavage can distract from her post-baby bump and knowing she knows we are seeing that is phase 1a. Phase 1b will be someone suggesting Natually Thin as a way to work herself down to her uh… …fighting weight.

          • quincyillinois says:

            Over the weekend, we had a coversation here about girdles. On WWHL, both Teresa and Jacqueline were cinched so tight that they could not breath. Jacqueline’s arms and Teresa’s legs and rear show the pounds that were added during the pregnancies. They eat quite a bit” wine, pasta, pies, mixed drinks. It’s hard to take off the weight with that diet.

            • MAMAZ says:

              HaHa Quincy. I thought the same thing. Looked like a couple of sausages. Maybe I should send Theresa a pair of the Legg’s Waist Cinchers!

              • quincyillinois says:

                We raise quarterhorses which are trained for children. We know cinches.

              • WindyCityWondering says:

                Truly – Teresa’s hugh ass didn’t move/wigglr/jiggle and she could hardly waddle, much less “walk”! They must have had on double or triple spanxs.

  26. Smompy says:

    Thank you, Guest Blogger! I only watched that stupid donnybrook up until Danielle got into the car, because that’s really all I could take of watching these chicks in action, but it sounds like I definitely didn’t miss anything by leaving when I did.

    As much as I hate Danielle and am sure she’s a big fat troublemaker, I can’t imagine how anyone could possibly say she instigated this particualr fracas. If Teresa hadn’t sat her shit-stirring monkey-ass on that sofa (just so that she could wait for Danielle to pass by and harrass her) and if she hadn’t insisted on engaging Danielle in conversation after Danielle had already walked past her and was clearly about to exit the building, then nothing would have happened. Period. Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit, Teresa,…you broke-ass Bankruptcy Whore!!!

    It’s good that Ashley did suffer SOME consequences for committing a battery, although I’d frankly have a very tough time being in the same room as that idiotic, dumpy, entitled, beret-wearing brat without committing a battery against HER, so who am I to talk? I remember reading something weird about her case though. Some article mentioned that when it came to Ashley’s sentencing, the prosecuter himself recommended to the judge that he be extremely lenient with her. The hell???

    • Maxine49 says:

      Bet the Manzo clan bought off the prosecutor…after all, it’s Joysey we’re talkin’ ’bout heeah!

    • Jules says:

      Well, this isn’t surprising – you must remember that early in the season the Manzos hosted a fundraising dinner for the police department. What we don’t see is the Manzos telling Ashley, honey don’t worry, we have the entire police department in our pockets. I don’t think Teresa, or any of the Manzos have to worry about behaving properly because I think they are paying off the authorities. I in fact do believe they are part of the mob (I include the Giudices here) – Albert’s father afterall ended up dead in the trunk of his car. That just doesn’t happen unless you are involved with the mob, or a girl that has been kidnapped and raped. Clearly, Caroline’s father-in-law was not a kidnapped, raped girl, so what does that leave.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        There are connections here that normal people don’t have. Wayne NJ sounds like a horrible place to live – rumors, rumbles at the Country Club and out of control but so entitle children.

  27. moriasheehan says:

    i could not make myself watch the last 2 episodes, just reading the posts are bad enough. no one mentioned whether creepy ben called in? or has andy finally realized he looks like a pervert for encouraging an underage kid. does andy have the hots for the kid? whatever, it creeps me out. no adult male homosexual should be so tickled to be talking to this kid. i am not anti homosexual. i don’t care who anyone wants to love, have sex, whatever. i don’t want anyone judging my choices.

    • Loved your guest blog HD!

      Well, I’m glad I’m done with NJ now. Last night’s episode resolved several things for me:

      1) There was no provocation by Danielle for Ashley to have attacked her and to have cowardly attacked her from behind at that.
      2) Danielle is just a loud mouthed bully with no real bite except to do mean things behind people’s backs, but she’s not to be trusted. She’s a drama queen which I already knew.
      3) Teresa is a bully who loses control very easily. She is the one that needs help controlling that temper or one day she may very well attack someone physically.
      4) Ashley is a coward, loud mouth, and a bully. She seriously needs help with her inability to control herself.
      5) Jacqueline has stepped in way too late in regard to Ashley. Ashley’s sense of self-importance and childishness (I want more people on my side, you took her side over me, etc.) should have been corrected years ago. She, at least age-wise, is an adult now and needs to be released on her own to fend for herself, especially if she isn’t going to behave like an adult. What was she trying to prove by yelling at Danielle about her criminal records as Danielle was running away from Teresa? That just shows immaturity on Jacqueline’s part. And stupidity. The stuff of playgrounds. Makes me wonder if Jacqueline did want to get a few digs into Danielle and that’s why she sat down with Teresa waiting for Danielle to walk by.
      6) Caroline was wrong in defending Ashley as only attacking Danielle to protect her family. NO! I believe she said something like Ashley’s heart was in the right place in protecting her family but her delivery was wrong. What protecting? From whom? Attacking Danielle (who was hiding in a corner in seeming hysterics) from behind and pulling out her hair was a cowardly unprovoked attack by Ashley. I wonder if Caroline will admit to this now? Is truth different for the Manzos? I’d like to see Caroline answer that.

      But, I won’t hold my breath. Done with this trashy show!

      Bravo needs to step it up and bring forth more quality shows like Bethenny’s show. These housewife shows are really sucking lemons!

      • tuzentswurth says:

        I only watched to the car scene too. It is clear that Assley was stalking D, waiting for a chance to sneak up behind like a coward and yank her hair. Assley got what she deserved. AND JAC, Assley now has a criminal arrest record just like Danielle, so now they are two of a kind. Aren’t you proud?
        If she continues to harrass D via twitter or email or whatever she has been doing, D should go back to the police, file for harrassmenet, terroristic threats, whatever she can AND get a restraining order…….that is IF she truly wants these people to leave her alone and stop playing the game.

        • tuzentswurth says:

          BTW, I think Danielle is disgusting and vile and needs to grow the hell up. It is pathetic to watch what she is doing to two lovely children. I don’t hold much hope for them.
          However, she wasn’t responsible for instigating this particular mess. I wish she hadn’t run, and let Teresa lay hands on her with the TV cameras running. Terrorista should be in jail! What a liar on WWHL about her family finances. Why don’t you just say, yeah, we’re fine because we know how to screw people out of $11 million, stick it to the taxpayers (us) and come up smelling like roses.

          • Maxine49 says:

            Teresa’s bankruptcy does not stick it to the taxpayers (they do NOT get relief from paying taxes by filing bankruptcy)….but she is sticking it to her creditors—and let’s hope that Kim D is one of them…hope she is into Kim D for thousands, including that unbelievably trashy, fugly chinchilla shrug…ugh! Teresa looks like road kill!

            • tuzentswurth says:

              It sticks it to the taxpayers because we pay more for goods and services to make up for the losses from these bankruptcy whores. Bailouts for banks and businesses also come from my bill-paying, tax-paying, law abiding dumb-ass.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              I think Theresa and her husband probably are sticking it to the taxpayers with undeclared income and ‘gifts’.

              As per the creditors, in the end it’s still usually the rest of us folks who pay their bills that have to eat the cost with inflated interest rates and surcharges.

              I can only hope they are not successful in their bankruptcy attempts and have to sell everything they own to get out of the hole. I noticed that in their documents, Theresa didn’t include the income from her books sales. I hope the IRS audits them again and again and again.

            • Squirrels says:

              WE the taxpayers do end up paying in the end. If my biz loses money due to unpaid dept, I have to figure out a way to keep my biz afloat. That mean’s raising prices.
              Period.

        • quincyillinois says:

          Ashley was calm before she attacked Danielle. Danielle was absolutely no threat to anyone at that point. It was a vile act to pull Danielle’s hair at that point. Jacqueline has a police record for fighting when she was young. Ashley is just like her mom.

  28. emt2 says:

    Great blog HD. I didn’t watch the show but I agree with all of your comments.

    I did a have a chance to read Alex’s guest blog and I have to say that I am very disappointed in her. She seems to be very far up the Jersey women’s asses for some reason. Maybe it’s because she and Simon have been spending time with Jacqueline, Teresa and Caroline on the book tour and they have a couple of Jersey dates coming up. Alex completely throws Danielle under the bus and condones the behavior of Teresa and Jacqueline and to a certain extent Trashley and Kim. It’s really disappointing that Alex was not being impartial or at least factual, for God’s sake. Why would she even choose to blog this nonsense episode in the first place?

    You guys should take a look at her blog and see if I’m exaggerating or misunderstanding. I hope I’m wrong about Alex but if I’m not, I really have to say that my level of respect for her went down a lot. A lot.

    • I read Alex’s blog and didn’t see her as condoning anyone’s behavior. Alex says she understands why Teresa was waiting to talk with Danielle, but knew no good would come of it. I felt that way too. If (big if) Teresa did want to offer an olive branch to Danielle, Teresa has a long way to go to effectively communicate that without losing control at the slightest provocation.

      Alex seemed to hold Danielle to account for her bad behavior, but also showed some empathy for Danielle in her delusion of people being out to get her (Alex had experienced that delusion first hand in the person of Kelly).

      I just didn’t see alex condoning Ashley’s behavior at all and said that if she were brought up on charges that maybe it would give her a wake up call.

      I read only the part of Alex’s blog from the end of the fashion show onward. The only part I wasn’t sure about was Alex saying that Teresa owned up to what she did to Joe. I didn’t watch that part as I was busy. Need to go back and look.

      • emt2 says:

        1. Alex writes: Back to Danielle, I don’t know how long she and Kim D have been friends, but does she really think that Teresa and Jacqueline would choose to spend time with Kim just to needle her? Clearly these mothers of babies have nothing better to do with their time than figure out who the friends are of a woman they don’t like, and befriend them. That makes perfect sense to me. Pardon me – we interrupt this blog because I’ve just realized that all the BFFs of my least favorite RHONY cast members need to come to dinner at my house. I need to excuse myself to do a little Googling and speed dialing. Oy.

        My response: Okay, Teresa and Jacqueline did befriend Kim in order to needle Danielle. Point blank.

        2. Alex writes: The fashion show quickly became a sideshow as Danielle played the “I’m ignoring you” game, while Jacqueline and Teresa tried to actually ignore her. Personally, I think calling someone a coke whore is beyond inappropriate, as is pretending to be on your cell phone. Just because Paris Hilton does something doesn’t make it hot.

        My response: Why is she making fun of Danielle? Jacqueline and Teresa weren’t trying to ignore Danielle because if they had ignored her, then there wouldn’t have been a fight.

        3. Alex writes: Danielle really made me want to jump through the TV and scream at her when she looked straight to camera and went after Jacqueline’s parenting skills. Why was she so nasty? Did I miss something? I could feel for the first time how the other girls must feel when they are pushed past the point of no return with her.

        My response: Um, the women have all criticized Danielle’s parenting skills and have been equally nasty. Did Alex forget that part?

        4. Alex writes: What can I say about what happened next? Yes, Teresa had to know that waiting for Danielle was going to start something…BUT, I understand why she did. Yes, I can understand how the snark about foreclosure incensed Teresa, and how it escalated. I thought Danielle was a little OTT with the running down the hallway crying; she wasn’t being pursued by wolves. How did Ashley think her mom was being attacked? I have to say I didn’t completely buy her rationale, but that could be a result of the way the episode was cut – we didn’t see why Ashley thought that.

        My response: Alex understands why Teresa was waiting for Danielle??? Alex isn’t clear that Ashley was not justified in “protecting her mom” because of editing? That is some real bullshit. Ashley shouldn’t have been involved, period. The end. You don’t seen Caroline’s kids running after Danielle, harassing her on facebook and pulling her hair, do you?

        5. Alex writes: Teresa came clean with Joe, she had her whine, they then had wine and laughed.

        My response: From what I’ve understood, Teresa did not come clean to Joe and it’s offensive to me that Alex said that the couple had wine and laughed all at the expense of Danielle. Not funny. Teresa and Joe have major money problems, we’ve seen the court documents. Danielle wasn’t lying. It’s okay to talk about Danielle’s judicial history but not Teresa’s?

        The show is just gutter. And I really think that Alex proved my earlier point (a few weeks ago) that this NJ show is so gross that everything it touches taints it. There is no way to justify anything that happened that night, in my opinion. It’s just grimy and gutter.

        • Snarkella says:

          Thank you!

        • BamaBelle says:

          emt2,

          I haven’t read Alex’ blog but from what you posted it seems Alex has taken the “popular” view of hating Danielle. I can’t believe anybody who saw that episode could possibly defend the likes of Teresa, Jacqueline and Ashley. I, too, am very disapointed in Alex, and just lost some respect for her!… Dammit, Alex-why couldn’t you just stay out of this mess?!?

    • kats2 says:

      @EMT2 – I totally agree with you. I was really pissed at Alex for her blog, why bother? I tweeter her to tell her it was a waste of space and that we get enough BS from the Jersey trash disappointed she sided with them and let Teresa off so easy. Specifically when Teresa went out of her way to trash Bethenny.

      • kats2 says:

        Of course I meant Tweeted, but tweeter her cracked me up. It sounds dirty.

        • BamaBelle says:

          LOL… emt2-I read it as “tweeted”. I didn’t know you said “tweeter” till I re-read your post. I meant to spell disappointed with 2 “p’s” instead of one!

    • Maxine49 says:

      I just read Alex’s blog and I completely agree with you. Alex totally missed th boat on this one and I am very disappointed in her. I honestly thought she was much smarter that this. Wow, I won’t look at Alex the same after this. She’s just wrong, wrong, wrong….in no way is Teresa’s conduct justified.

  29. myname2use4now says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Ashley is one butt ugly chick. Between her ugly features and her even uglier personality, I hope Jac and her husband like having her around because there is no way she will ever make it on her own in the real world.

  30. boston02127 says:

    Great Guest Blog HD!

  31. boston02127 says:

    Well you guys covered just about everything about the NJ pigs. One thing I can’t understand is why Bravo put their audience thru weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks of Kelly’s bullsh….about systematic bullying but laughed off Teresa and Jaquelines actions?
    .
    Also I read on Jill’s tweet last night that she was in bed and ready to watch the RHONJ. Jill…..don’t think last nights crap episode took any heat away from you.
    You’re still the most hated of them all.

  32. viki55 says:

    Good Morning Everyone:) Feast or famine uh? From no new blogs to two at once whooohoooo I gots lots of reading to do! Before I go back at catch up just got to say I loved loved loved the wedding! I laughed, I cried, hell I even peed! As for NJ, what trash. There really is no “Real” in that show. It is all acting, and very bad acting at that. I think the whole franchise started to go down hill with Atlanta. Don’t think you can get the “Real” back once it is gone.

  33. TLM says:

    I think the blog left out the scariest part of this show — the part where Teresa came home and relayed the story, of course re-casting herself as hero, to husband Joe. Can Bravo please put an end to showing America the mating rituals of gutter trash? I am starting to think Teresa starts fights with people only so she can come home and tell Joe, who evidently finds this an irresistible turn-on. Ick.

    I think the chinchilla Teresa wore was rabid, and its poison reached Teresa’s already-addled brain, since she evidently thought that saying, “Hi, honey” to her husband was the same as angrily saying “No, honey” to Danielle in a heated discussion. She twisted the story to say that she was only being a nice person. Sure, all friendly discussions lead to tons of people running out of a country club screaming, and the cops being called. Don’t they?

    To see Teresa retelling the story of Danielle running away from her like it was a funny story was sickening. Even though it seems like Joe actually comprehends the fact that his wife was a bully (which frankly shocked me), as soon as he hears that a man held Teresa back from going after Danielle, he has to pipe up that the guy was “lucky I wasn’t there.”

    We all would be lucky if none of you were there. On our TV screens or elsewhere.

    Jacqueline has gone from sounding like a dimwitted pushover to a biting, sarcastic, bitter bitch. Would’ve been nice if she could aim for somewhere in the middle. No, she doesn’t provoke anything, she just stands in front of cars of people who don’t want to talk to her. And she goes on WWHL and starts feeling up Teresa and thinks she’s being oh-so-clever. So glad that she’s busy raising two more potential juvenile delinquents, and Teresa has her 4 daughters to ruin. From the behavior of these two moms and Jacqueline’s daughter, I am really concerned as to what two boys and four girls who all think they are entitled to do whatever they wish is going to mean for their future, and that of those around them. Ashley actually said, “I can do whatever I want to [Danielle].” Ashley, get ready to learn a bit more about the law and the courts. First of all, hair extensions “count” as an assault even though they aren’t your real hair. And by the way, so does grabbing someone by their shoe, knocking a cane out from under someone, pulling on someone’s neck chain and choking them, or pulling a chair away from them as they go to sit down. Get it, Ashley? It’s Torts 101. Second, Ashley, you’re 18. Party time is over. You continue this crap and you’re getting charged as an adult. Enjoy! If ever someone needed to go through the “Scared Straight” program and see what it’s like from the inside of a real prison, it’s this girl.

    Teresa said, “I don’t raise tomboys…I raise divas.” No, you raise bullies, and so does Jacqueline. Andy once asked Bethenny which of the NJ wives she would leave her daughter with, and she said Caroline, which shocked me. But I think she was right. I used to be terrified of Caroline, but now I think she’s the only sane one there. Even if she is straight out of Central Casting for a mob movie.

    • Snarkella says:

      Did anyone else notice that when Teresa put her “bubbies” on the pool table Joe seemed disgusted rather than turned on? I think their fantastic sex life is all in Teresa’s head.

      • boston02127 says:

        @Snarkella–I noticed that too!
        Luv your s/n.

      • Maxine49 says:

        …and did you hear her say to Joe…”give me some tongue”….could these people be any more vulgar. Tell me, did anyone notice last season during the table flipping scene that Joe put his hands around Teresa’s neck and squeezed it and she pulls back and makes some guttural sound and then oddly smiles and kisses him…every time I see that scene I think WTF! And I never saw anyone write anything about that….the man is dangerous. Also, all this talk about sex, sex, sex….I’m thinking with all the obvious steroids he’s taking that “those satchels have no gold in them”…if you know what I mean. Teresa is obviously desperate for action….and her talk is all wishful thinking…and the thought of those two animals in action is simply revolting.

        • Jules says:

          Yeah, I noticed that too. Even the previews made it seem like Joe was choking Teresa – perhaps they like a little asphyxia – it would explain the smile.

          • quincyillinois says:

            I think games are played by those two. The trouble is they share with the viewers and it looks icky to us.

        • BamaBelle says:

          Also, Maxine49,

          Has anybody mentioned that in the piles of debt for the Guidices there is a bill from a Fertility Clinic… why? If they couldn’t get pregnant on their own, shouldn’t 3 kids be enough, especially if you’re having money problems? Maybe Joe’s steriod problem caused the infertility problems?

          And, I did see Joe put his hands around Teresa’s neck. I think she’s dangerous, too. No telling how many times she’s chased after Joe with a butcher knife… you know, her “Italian temper”?!?

          I heard her say the “tongue comment”… I also saw her kiss him 3 times, and all three times Joe didn’t seem that interested. Come to think of it, Joe didn’t seem to interested or excited when Teresa went into labor, either. He sure didn’t smile much or seemed that sympathic to Teresa’s pain. NOPE! I don’t buy the “we’ve got the greatest marriage in the world act”!

          • Maxine49 says:

            …and remember when Teresa was giving birth Joe said “I hope I don’t throw up my hamburger”…well, I just about lost it when I heard that….what a revolting low life pig!

    • tuzentswurth says:

      I love posts that make me laugh, OUT LOUD. Seriously, Kudos TLM.

      I think the fur industry is trying to put furs on all these dumb broads to rehabilitate their (the fur industry) image and make us dummies think that it is glamorous and desirable to wear fur.

      Bravo has become laughable in their contempt for women and their opinion of us as stupid cows that they can manipulate. That is why Andy sits and grins!
      Much of the draw to watch some of this tripe is to dissect it from a feminist viewpoint.

    • Maxine49 says:

      It’s not Torts 101…first, it’s Criminal Law 101 for Ashley…then it’s Torts 101 if Danielle wants to sue her civilly for replacement hair extensions and the infliction of pain. I espouse to be against violence…but, honestly, I just wanted to smack that Ashley silly.

  34. Pat Johnson says:

    Famewhores. That is what this show has boiled down to: a group of women who will do anything to bask in the limelight and the lure of the camera is just too much to avoid.

    From Kim G. who apparently flitted from one table to another, carrying tales of what Danielle was saying, to Ashley lashing out with a sense of entitlement, it was all for the sake of the cameras who were there to record the whole mess. It is beyond sickening to watch.

    Let’s assume for a moment that Danielle is actually running all over NJ talking smack about them. As if anyone for a minute could take whatever comes out of their mouths as “truthful”. They only had to make an exit to their cars and gone home. But Theresa decided to address Danielle and I saw Danielle attempt to leave a developing situation but being led back by that awful Kim G. For what reason? None of these ladies are ever in my lifetime going to be “friends”. She did it for the camera. She is as much responsible for what followed as Theresa in her attempts to be “nice”.

    Why would a group of women choose to chase each other through the country club? Why was it necessary to continue that abuse in the parking lot? Where does that little beast Ashley come off physically attacking Danielle regardless of what she was supposedly told? Why did Jacqueline continue to stand there like a centurion in front of the car? Why was Theresa filmed giggling with Kim D who was offering her “support” and hugging Trashley for “defending her mother”? Why? Cameras!!!!!

    This episode happened last October. Here we are in July and Trashley is still bashing Danielle via Twitter and her stupid blog. Learn much in the meantime? Not at all from the looks of it and she is still living at home being supported by Chris and Jacqueline as she goes about relating on Facebook how much Danielle spends in the store that unfortunately hired her.

    Danielle is seriously nuts if you listen to the others, making claims that Theresa broke her car windows in order to park closer to the store door. Can anyone believe Theresa? No. Can anyone believe Danielle? No. And where was Jacqueline parked when the “energist” was dishing out advice over the phone? Parked right outside Posche! Unbelievable!

    • Maxine49 says:

      I want to know more about the window incident. Did it actually happen? Honestly, I wouldn’t put it past Ashley or some of her friends to break Danielle’s windows. Do we know if the windows were broken?

    • Jules says:

      Doesn’t really matter if Danielle was running all over town talking smack about them. Afterall, that is exactly what they did to Danielle last season with the book. Caroline likes to act like she is above it all, but she was a big instigator with the book last year. I real woman with class might have heard about the book, and made her own decision about whether or not to hang out with Danielle, but have not felt the need to spread it around town via the salon etc…

    • Squirrels says:

      So much for Chris’s tough love approach. Kick that whiney baby bitch OUT.

  35. rawhideaz says:

    HD – good blog. Glad you had fun. Wine heps – 🙂

  36. boston02127 says:

    I think Albie is full of it. He went to school part time for one semester. He got a 1.913 fall semester. He said that the school told him that he wouldn’t be able to cut it with his learning disability and “lawyering” probably isn’t for him. The reason the school accepted him is that he clearly scored high enough on the LSAT and his undergraduate GPA to gain admission. That alone is pretty telling that he is more than capable of obtaining good grades. Albie makes us believe that the school was aware of his disability. The school would have required documentation and scores of tests used to evaluate the type of condition/impairment of his disability and would of accommodated him. If it was a problem he would not have been accepted from the start. He knew he was going in a field that requires a certain level of intelligence and ability. He was able to gain acceptance. Reality TV got the best of him, his excuse for failing is lazy and weak. Give me a break. He should buddy up with his brother with the stripper/car wash business. The people in state of NJ should be thankful that they dodged the bullet of Albie Manzo “lawyering” for them in the future.

    • viki55 says:

      Totally agree. I don’t even believe the disability issues. He played instead of studying, he flunked out, period. Everything else is just an exercise for him to save face.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        I was also wondering “How is he going to make it in the new law school if he couldn’t make it at the one he was at? What’s going to be the difference?”

        • MAMAZ says:

          Boston! Great post as usual. He graduated from Fordham no less so he must have had an excellent HS GPA to even get in there. I forget where he was going to Law School but I thought it was a good school. Anyone remember? He would need a certain score on the LSATs to be accepted so he msut be able to do it disablilty or not. And you are right about the documentation of a learning disablilty.

        • boston02127 says:

          @Zipit Zarin–He won’t. There will be another lame excuse.

        • Jules says:

          Furthermore, what law school is going to want to accept him if he couldn’t cut it at the first one. Perhaps, a online law school. Yeah, I can see it now – apply here if you flunked out of your real law school, we will take anyone.

      • BamaBelle says:

        Oh but Albie sure hired a lawyer to get him into another law school because the other one mis-handled his disability… then proud mama tells us her son excepted his responsibility and did something about it.

        Hiring a lawyer and threatening to sue if he doesn’t get permission to enter another law school with his mama and daddy’s money is really “maning-up” isn’t it?!?

        Oh yeah Caroline-you should be so proud. His ADD or whatever didn’t affect his graduating from HS or 4 years in college… did it? He screwed around and didn’t hit the books and instead of really maning-up by saying, “I didn’t study like I should have”… he makes excuses and hires a lawyer! Also, the I didn’t fail anything crap… I wonder how many courses he had to drop so he wouldn’t have a failing grade show up?

    • kats2 says:

      @boston YES, every word YES!

    • Maxine49 says:

      Albie may have had an “accommodation” for his disability in both college and when taking the LSATs—typically the accommodation is giving more time to complete the test. It seems he didn’t seek any accommodation from Seton Hall until it was too late…or he didn’t follow through and pursue it…didn’t he say he called and they never called him back. So, call again, Albie..you need to have a real follow through attitude if you want to be a lawyer.

      Now, I know this is snarky, but I just want to throw this out there. Has anyone noticed the dramatic difference in Albie’s looks this season? Last year he was just gorgeous. This year, his looks are deteriorating episode by episode. It really surprises me. And then the hair is going, too…very sad.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        I didn’t really watch last year, any links to photos?

      • BamaBelle says:

        I haven’t noticed too much difference in his looks because I never pay that much attention to him, except to say Albie looks just like Caroline and Chris looks like his dad’s side, especially Uncle Tommy… he looks and sounds just like Dina’s husband.

        I’ve noticed a big difference in Caroline’s look this season. Those big droopy false eye lashes and the dark eye shadow. The shape of her eyes, nose and mouth remind me of Kermit the Frog… that’s what I think now everytime I see Caroline!

    • Bosandi says:

      Glad you brought up Albie Boston2127 and your points are excellent. The fact that he went part-time for one semester and couldn’t cut it speaks volumes. Many people start and finish law school with jobs and families to care for. IF (and a big IF at that) he is truly disabled and really did his best then “lawyering” probably isn’t for him. I suspect fame is the culprit and like his dear aunties, he’s blaming others for his poor performance instead of looking in the mirror.

      I halfway watched the show last night. Did I see him getting legal advice? So he plans(ed) to sue the school if he didn’t get that letter? I also heard him say that the only support the school provided was a telephone number that no one answered. When and how many times did he call- Once and after hours?

      I’m all for the “underdog” and showing “the man” that you can succeed but Albie seems to have a strong sense of self entitlement. HD got it right when she said study harder.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      His learning disability didn’t even come up until he got on academic probation! IMO he lied to his parents about what the school said to him. Maybe he will eventually get caught – but Caroline will still be so proud of him!

      • Bosandi says:

        I have a genuine dislike for all of these women on the show. The only one I can tolerate for a little while is Caroline. But, it really annoys me how she keeps talking about how great her kids are. We get it already. They are fighters and you support them through everything.

        • BamaBelle says:

          Don’t most mother’s do that? I’m sick of her whining about “empty nest” when Caroline has 3 GROWN children STILL living in the house with her. If she’s so lonely… get involved in a charity… hello!

  37. rawhideaz says:

    I really like Theresa but she is sooooo itching for a fight. I was surprised Jacq. defended her as IMHO, Theresa was in the wrong and Jacq typically stands up for what is true. Of course I can’t stand Danielle – WHAT a drama queen – but she was innocent during all of the fight. She did nothing to instigate it or keep it going. Completely agree with HD on Kim (whatever initial) being a real instigator.

    • viki55 says:

      I think she did keep it going with her house forclosure remark. She could have walked away but lets face it, it was all scripted anyway.

      • rawhideaz says:

        You’re right. I forgot about the foreclosure comment. That really shifted Theresa into psycho-bitch mode.

        • TLM says:

          Are you saying Teresa was NOT in psycho-bitch mode when she got up and started dancing around maniacally, doing the “oh no you didn’t” neck, waving her finger and saying she’s from Paterson?!??!? That all was BEFORE the foreclosure comment, as was her blatantly trying to stir up trouble by waiting for Danielle to walk by so she could confront her.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            she was ready to rumble the minute she walked in the place – she wanted to start a screaming cat fight! Danielle only had to look at her and she was psycho locked and loaded to go. I would have been impressed if Danielle would have just kept walking.

        • BamaBelle says:

          Teresa was already in “Psycho-Bitch” mode. Danielle didn’t make the foreclosure comment until Teresa started calling her a hag, bitch… among other things-then started bragging about her mansion! Danielle had the right to make a few comments… that freaking Teresa has been spreading Danielle’s business around town since season~1.

          I found it ridiculous when Teresa said in her camera interview that it was none of Danielle’s business… really? But Teresa sure makes it her business to know Danielle’s and spreads it to anybody who will listen!

      • rawhideaz says:

        Viki – am I just dumb and naive? I don’t think anything is scripted. Can you explain why you do?

        • MAMAZ says:

          I think the actions of the Kims is one indicator. Kim D encourages Danielle to attend the event. She even called her on the phone to make up after their fight so she would attend. Then GrannyKim according to Theresa and Jacq on WWHL goes between tables to tell them what Danielle is saying. Wouldn’t Danielle have seen that? And GrannyKim has Danielle stay to talk to Theresa in the hall. She doesn’t leave after the fight when Danille begs her to. (And why didn’t Danielle’s bodyguard just call a freaking cab to get take them home instead of waiting for Kim G. )Instead she goes back inside to talk to the other H’wives about the fight.
          Don’t forget when GrannyKim picks Danielle up she tells her which boots to wear and one of them says how she wont be running:foreshadowing.
          It is not exactly scripted but I think it’s obvious that the production satff is coaching them on how to create more drama.

          • Snarkella says:

            The two Kims are so obvious in their attempts to create drama. I suspect they are working for Bravo.

          • Bosandi says:

            I agree that it’s not really scripted but at least guided by the producers. Someone I know very well did a pilot for a reality show for VH1 and will actually be on a reality show very soon by the same production company as RH (is it Shed media?). Anywho, the producers are very selective in who they choose and why. They then throw in an outsider/questionable person to make things interesting. Also while filming, the cast are asked to recreate the scene over and over again. That’s why it seems scripted b/c they are struggling to recreate what they just did and it comes off as acting. And in the beginning the company asks who you don’t want to be filmed with and if you have a problem with anyone on the show. My guess is the producers create situations where you just run into the people you want to avoid. After production Shed also asks the cast if there is something that they absolutely don’t want to be shown (I guess you need a good reason).

            • BamaBelle says:

              I don’t think it’s scripted, but I do think Bravo wants the drama and create situations to cause it.

              Teresa’s hatred of Danielle is real and I don’t think anybody has to suggest anything to her-she’s a real life BULLY!

              I do think the two Kim’s set Danielle up! Another poster explained this very well at the top of the page.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            I also think Teresa was told to start a conversation with Danielle.

    • kats2 says:

      Interesting take, I don’t agree. I guess I don’t see anything to like about Teresa or the Manzo’s. I actually HATE Teresa (and I never use the H Word), she makes Danielle look like a saint. Don’t get me wrong I can’t stand this whole cast, but Danielle couldn’t hurt a fly and I still have not seen anything Danielle has done while this show has been on that is the big cause for the uproar over her. She has a scummy past, but the Manzo’s and T-Man act like they are above her. THEY ARE NOT. Danielle is a weirdo and most sane adults who were not looking to get attention so they could profit it off of her crazy would ignore her (completely ignore her). I will keep saying it, Danielle is their meal ticket and it’s why Teresa had a successful book and following to buy her stupid book. She owes it all to Danielle.

      IF T-Man and the Manzo’s were really that afraid of Danielle they wouldn’t be talking about her at all. I’d actually be more frightened of the Manzo’s good family friend Bernie Kerik (you know the head of NY police doing 4 years for corruption in Federal Prison)

      Jac is just mush, nothing there, total waste of space. But interesting how just a year ago prior to the show she too had issues with Caroline and Dina, was friends with Danielle and had no relationship with the Manzo Sisters. Wonder why?

      If these parents were really concerned about Albie and Ashley – they would not be on camera at all (maybe background). Albie would be studying because law school and the extra time he needs for his disability is the priority (not filming on Mommy’s show). It’s time for Albie to crawl out of Mommy’s ass.

      And Ashley should have to get a real job and have a earlier curfew. There is no reason why an 18 year old who lives at home and does not work should be allowed to be out until Midnight or later during the week. I don’t have any respect for parents who sugar-coat everything their kids do wrong, and lack the skills to be honest with themselves when their kids are failing.

      These kids are playing these parents, they know exactly how to get what they want.

      T-Man and her ape of a husband are criminals. They are working a broke system and making out like crazy but for me they stole $11 million, they knew what they were doing and just like a bank robbers they should be behind bars.

      I don’t like Danielle at all and it’s odd but I have more respect for Danielle at this point

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Absolute DITTO! Great post!

      • Maxine49 says:

        “It’s time for Albie to crawl out of Mommy’s ass. ” OMG, that is the best quote—EVER! ROFLMAO! Thank you for that, kats2. As for T-Man and her ape boy…looks like Ape Boy might have criminal charges coming his way…I read he forged his partner’s name on a loan for $1M…and the money went missing…allegedly (as Kathy Griffin says…). I actually think we say Teresa spending that money on furniture…and Joe ripping off those $100 bill tips for the delivery boys on camera….when I saw that behavior, I knew the authorities wouldn’t be far behind them. I expect an income tax evasion charge against them, as well.

        • BamaBelle says:

          Oohhhhhhh wouldn’t that be so funny! All Teresa has done is make fun of Danielle’s criminal background, talk about how broke she is, and… now look who’s broke and may be criminals and definately liars about their income!… Hahahaha…

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        In my house – I owned my kids until they are out of my house. They have to have summer jobs – but during the school year their job is to be a good student! They aren’t handed stuff – the older one has to pay his portion of the auto insurance on the car he drives. Disrespect gets your priveledges yanked and curfews are manditory – no negotiations allowed. Are my kids well mannered – you better believe it. While we are very comfortable financially, they know if they want the life style they currently enjoy then they better do good in school, go to college and get a career that can support them. So while I may not be the most liked parent – I know I am giving my kids the tools they need to lead healthy, happy and independent lives.

        • kats2 says:

          WindyCity – i love this! It’s how it should be.

        • BamaBelle says:

          LOVE to hear when parents these days care enough to actually discipline their children, teach them manners and respect, while requiring good study habits, grades and a summer job!

          Good job, WindyCity… I’m sure your kids will be successfull in whatever they do.

  38. Pantry Viewer says:

    So what was the “breaking news” on Jill’s “breaking news” on her sister’s show yesterday? Anyone take a hit for the team and listen?

    Thanks!

  39. WindyCityWondering says:

    Nice blog HD!

    Are you wondering why a two bit mall boutique (which will hopefully be out of business now)would be throwing a “fashion show” at a country club? Bravo had to pay for that so they could get Danielle and the the thugettes in the same room. Bravo seems to really be putting a lot into this franchise. (I still wonder how two nobodies from Jersey had their kids in fashionweek runway shows….)

    Teresa of the assive massive, will go down in a debtor’s blaze of glory eventually. She totally started the whole thing off and Wacky Jacky of the high school stare down, was there with her can of gasoline to make sure it went boom! Watching the other women who were there for a fashion show couldn’t believe their eyes! Who let those stampeding loud mad cows into the country club?

    The scenes of Ashley, first baiting Danielle with table faces and then silently moving through the crowd like a shark to attack her in a cowardly way – she wasn’t defending her mom! Love and light little sister you are legally an adult but you act like a five year old. You will get in trouble again and maybe even go to jail because you are stupid. Chris should throw Jacky out with Ashley so the boys have a chance of growing up with at least one parent who isn’t a lying, skanky, uneducated excuse for a person!

    And Mama Manzo in all her I told you so glory! SHE isn’t Teresa and Jacky’s keepers but she sure knows them both well enough to know they are stupid, brainless wannabees. As for your son – if he was sincere about law school he would have made more than ONE phone call for help. Academic probation wasn’t caused by his learning disablility as much has his partying on TV.

    As for Danielle – hey tough girl – if you are going to talk the talk then you should have had Ashley and Teresa arrested. Put your big girl pants and either take those twits out or shut up!

    As for Andy having the trio of harpies on WWHL – dude, your fans are calling, they want their show back!

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      “moving through the crowd like a shark to attack in a cowardly way”<—-PERFECT!

    • tuzentswurth says:

      EXCELLENT! ;)))

    • Maxine49 says:

      Windy, didn’t Ashley aka Puffinstuff (“kadooze” to Richard Lawson for that) also sort of flip off Danielle when she walked by her on the runway. That girl is cruising for a big time bruising. This slap on the wrist misdemeanor charge has not taught her anything. She’ll be going down big time…eventually.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Ashley had a camera on her – two shots coming through the crowd and then when she yanked Danielle’s head back. IMO, someone knew what she was going to do before she did it and there is no room for defending her mom in that scenerio.

      • quincyillinois says:

        Ashley doesn’t seem to have common sense and she has been affected by fame. I think she is going to have serious problems in the future.

    • Squirrels says:

      “As for Andy having the trio of harpies on WWHL – dude, your fans are calling, they want their show back!”

      Bravo is run by a bunch of little boy morons. They move through life blithely and pretend they don’t see what is unfolding before their eyes. Not only do they scheme to get juicy anti-social behavior front and center, but they also (allegedly) play offstage antics as a ratings plus.

      Beyond the obvious kiss ass shenanigans Andy is becoming known for, (notice I refuse to say famous), rigging polls is about as heinous as it gets, in my opinion. He and his cohorts are playing with fire. A very ugly game of let’s fuck with people’s lives on camera, it’ll be a hoot and we’ll make a fortune off the back of The Bad Girls Club.

      It’s called misogyny and we as women have been dealing with it to some degree or another all our lives. Andy…. women make up the majority of your viewing audience.

      Andy et al. are at the epicenter of this travesty which makes women look like complete shallow, useless, soulless human beings, all the while encouraging the dysfunctional behaviors. What seriously ticks me off is he’s laughing through it all. Wake the fuck little boy up or wait until some very unstable, agitated, off their meds EX fan lands you in a hospital or worse.

  40. Zipit Zarin says:

    Welcome “home” Lynn and great blog HD 😀

    It seems kinda funny so call all these women “fame whores” when that’s all a reality show is for. shrug

    There used to be freak shows at the circus. Now the freak show is on Bravo on Monday nights. I confess, I paid to see the two-headed woman when I was 10 years old. lol I need to grow the eff up and stop watching this one.

    I vote Teresa for starting it. I actually felt sorry for Danielle and never thought that could happen. But, you reap what you sow. I don’t know what’s true about Dina in her life off the show but she’s the only one I ever enjoyed watching (except for her weird spiritual stuff) and I give her a lot of kudos for leaving the hot mess whatever the reason was.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Zipit Zarin-I felt sorry for Danielle too. Even thou she’s a nut bag sleaze she doesn’t deserve to be treated like that.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I felt bad for Danielle up until she started whining about wanting to go home. She should have either pressed charges on the lot of them or just left. The whining really pissed me off.

        • Jules says:

          Windy – she couldn’t leave, she didn’t drive. Remember she went there with Kim G. and her driver. Her driver was outside the car talking to Jacqueline, and Teresa, and Kim G. wanted the drama prolonged. Kim G. acutally went back into the building to talk to Teresa and Jacqueline. I am no fan of Danielle, but the only way she was getting out of there sooner was to call a taxi cab, because Kim G. wasn’t budging.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            True about not driving but if she really wanted to leave there were four cop cars there!

          • Jules says:

            Still, even then, I think the cops are on the Manzo’s payroll. You know the fundraiser and all. Plus I think it is a clear example of the boy who cried wolf. Danielle is clearly a troublemaker herself, and the cops probably know her reputation. In this particular situation she was wronged bigtime, but her past behavior made them just blow her off, even though she was the victim this time.

  41. boston02127 says:

    From: NJ.com
    “Real Housewives of New Jersey” stars Teresa Giudice and Jacqueline Laurita talked to Bravo’s Andy Cohen on “Watch What Happens” about the fake hair-pulling mischegoss in Monday’s episode. “This is how we roll,” Teresa explains, referencing Danielle Staub’s attitude at the Brownstone benefit she tried to ruin a few episodes back.
    Andy tells Teresa it looks like she picked a fight, but Teresa claims she just wanted to talk to Danielle “woman to woman” about some rumors she’d been spreading, including that Teresa broke all the windows on her car. She honestly thinks Danielle was putting on an act the entire time.
    A caller from Paterson asks Teresa what’s the deal with her house. Teresa says her house is not under foreclosure and wants to leave it at that, but Andy follows up: “You’re in quite a bit of debt.” After a pause, Teresa says, “Well, not me. My husband and his ex-partner with real estate … We’re doing the best we can.”

    Jacqueline is asked about how she feels about her neighbor, Kim Granatell, playing both sides. “I think she enjoyed the camera time,” Jacqueline says diplomatically.

    Jacqueline’s daughter Ashley comes on the show and says she realizes that she looked crazy and that she shouldn’t have pulled out Danielle’s extensions. Teresa starts to say something about how the hair may not have even been pulled out by Ashley — veddy interesting! — when Jacqueline stops her. “Not my proudest moment,” Ashley concludes.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Maybe Terrorista should stop “rolling” and start being a responsible parent?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Oh those little divas in training will be payback bitchdom when they hit their teens, one after another, after another, after another! Yes Teresa will get it back in spades!

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Wonder if a civil suit will follow?

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        She should. From what I heard weaved in extensions are VERY expensive, there are actual damages that occurred.

        Ashley needs a big slice of humble pie accompanied with a nice hot cup of STFU.

        Instead Dandy Andy Cohen is giving her a platform to carry on this nonsense but this is also the same guy who enjoys regular interactions with a 12 year old boy. It’s creepy.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      bonus: Ashley know has a rap sheet!

  42. Olivia says:

    With the amount of school bullying that has been covered in recent months, and the videos available on YouTube showing girls ganging up on other girls as a cause for “entertainment”, Bravo goes ahead and features a “gang bang” of its own with grown women who should know better. Then to make matters even more interesting, they invite the instigators onto the show with that moron Andy Cohen, to not only defend their actions but to actually appear as if they were enjoying making total assess out of themselves.

    Trashley’s “fans” are agreeing with her as if what she did was warranted, and Alex of all people is in quasi agreement with Theresa! Has the world gone completely mad or are all of these women so desperate for fame that they are willing to sell their souls for a piece of the action? Are we all watching the same piece of crap that should never have seen the light of day? How is anyone of them excused for thuggish behavior that led to the police having to be called on scene?

    This show is so devoid of any substance whatsoever that it is remarkable that the FCC has not intervened and sanctioned them for exploitation of children and common decency. Then to have yet another segment featuring the likes of “made man” Danny Pro emerge once again is beyond comprehension.

    Theresa and Joe and their fraudulent lives are being showcased as if their criminality is acceptable as the “fans” swarm in to defend her atrocious behavior as their “empire” is exposed for what it is. Criminal illegality.

    These are women raising children in their own likeness and it is disturbing to say the least. Next week show Danielle taking boxing lessons while her daughter looks on. One can only imagine the emotional damage these kids must endure for the sake of this unnecessary violence that seems to pervade every episode of this horrid series.

    Enough is enough. The entire exec branch of this franchise needs to be fired outright beginning with Andy Cohen and those who support this brand of lunacy that undermines the fabric of what we are teaching our children in the face of bullying. It has gone much too far.

    • boston02127 says:

      Olivia-What I don’t understand is why don’t these grown woman walk away and never look back. I can see one of them being a fighter, but all of them? I’ve seen many fights, I’ve lived in Southie all my life! I’ve never raised my hand to anyone and have walked away many times when people have gotten in to fights. I’m 18, why can’t these woman walk away? If someone doesn’t like me I’m the first to say baa-by and never look back.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Boston- I hope you and Olivia don’t mind if I answer. It’s because they don’t have your brains, fortitude or self respect!
        Like KKB they think this is their job. And I’m starting to actually believe Kelly! Bravo is coaching them to behave as badly as possible for a paycheck. Would I do it? There isn’t enough money in the world for me to leave that legacy to my children. I would rather they see me working hard and behaving with dignity than cash those big checks while the world watched my claw at my friends and neighbors for a buck.

        • boston02127 says:

          @Mamza-That’s exactly something my mother would have said “there isn’t enough money in the world for me to leave that legacy to my children”. I think that’s the big diffrence, having a respectful mother with class & values.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        boston, I think it’s called “having some dignity” 😀

        • Olivia says:

          It is mind boggling to me that these grown women do not possess the commonsense that to avoid conflict, you simply walk away. No need to engage week after week, hour after hour, plotting, planning, and threatening each other for the sake of ratings and a questionable paycheck.

          Are they all this desperate? Bullying is a real issue nationwide. Kelly demeaned that issue by insisting that she was a “victim” of an event that did not happen. But for Bravo to not only film this episode for public consumption, then allow that moron Andy Cohen to treat it like there was something amusing to behold, is beyond the pale.

          How many kids out there saw this and thought it was funny? How many made the decision that there is nothing wrong with engaging in that behavior because of the lame excuses offered by Theresa and Jacqueline? How many saw Trashley making excuses that involved “defending” her mother and think that this is the way to go because the reasoning behind the bullying has acceptance? It’s funny, right? Lighthearted banter in place of facing up to the criminality behind this display while the two perpetrators roll all over the set in fits to laughter and egged on by the production staff who found reason to laugh at their antics.

          The whole episode is a sorry excuse to be considered “entertaining” but the aftermath on their blogs and the visit with Andy is a testimony to how low this network has gone in enlisting ratings.

          • Char212 says:

            Olivia, you said…”How many kids out there saw this and thought it was funny?”
            I saw a twitter to Caroline yesterday from a 12 year old girl saying she loves the show.

            Now what’s wrong with that mother letting her watch trash like that and what will she be like in a couple of years? So ya, it’s happening. There are children out there watching and thinking it’s hilarious.

          • Char212 says:

            I was just reading Teresa’s FB page and I can’t believe all the people who are saying that T was right and justified doing what she did. Most think it’s funny and say she should have climbed in the car with Danielle and kicked her ass. The are telling her she’s a classy (puke) women and love her. What’s wrong with people today who thinks behavior like that is funny and to be encouraged. I just don’t get it.

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          high five MAMAZ ;D

      • kats2 says:

        The big difference is that for whatever reason Tereas the gutter slut has a following and scenes with like last night with Danielle ensure she will sell her next book. It is disgusting but it’s the bad PR rule that trash like Kelly, Teresa and even Jac live by.

        I said here many times before Danielle is their meal ticket.

    • Snarkella says:

      Bravo Olivia!

    • JazzNightOut says:

      This is a tweet from BravoAndy from Jul1:

      “I’m watching 2 Ally Sheedy lookalikes having a massive fight in front of Rock Ctr. One is crying! They r pale and pissed! #iloveny” 11:54 AM Jul 1st via UberTwitter ,

      The “#iloveny” is the key part of this tweet for me. He watches this happen in real life in front of the building he works in and says “#iloveny.” This is why we see what we see on the Real Housewives franchises! My reaction would be to stop the fight, help, call security…his is voyeuristic and loving it. This told me who Andy Cohen is loud and clear.

    • babelony says:

      Another blog called the Housewives shows The Real World for adults. I think it’s more like The Bad Girls Club of immature “ladies”. Atlanta started this trend and NJ has taken it even lower. I never liked the NJ housewives. I watched (entirely bored) last year waiting for the so called dramatic table flipping scene, which, of course didn’t occur util the very last episode. I refused to watch this season, and mostly haven’t, except for a few scenes while flipping through channels. From what I’ve seen and read, I think I made the right decision.

      I know this goes against the grain, but I never cared for Andy Cohen either. His shit eating grin at these womens antics gets on my nerves and, for the most part, I think he botches the reunions. JMO.

    • Maxine49 says:

      Yes, just when you had a momentary felling of sympathy for Danielle…we see the coming attraction of the boxing glove scene…OMG, how could they…and with the daughter witnessing this…for shame, for shame. Danielle’s daughters are beautiful, fragile young ladies and they are going to be ruined….this is so, so sad. Where the hell is their father, their grandparents, their aunts and uncles? Why is no one stopping this car from going off the cliff?

  43. Zipit Zarin says:

    http://www.bsideblog.com/

    Can’t wait for the photo recap. 😀

  44. Night Light says:

    I just finished reading Caroline’s blog and I liked how she ended it: once their 15 minutes of fame are over all they will have is their repuation. At the end of the day the the four women soiled their reputation and for what? Teresa wanted another flip the table moment, Jaqueline’s first instincts should of been to take Ashley home as soon as the staring contest began, Ashley ALMOST had me with her lie that she pulled on Dirty D’s hair because she thought her mom had been attacked but that was not the first thing that came out of her mouth when Jacqueline told her to go home. Ashley said she also had things to say and that’s why she pulled her hair. The winner of the night was Dirty D since she got exactly what she wanted! I think this would of happened earlier at the Brown Stone if other than Dirty D had shown up at the charity event. The WHOLE “fight” was pathetic! Caroline’s storyline may be boring and you may not relate to it but she is not selling out her family for drama/camera-time’s sake.
    Side note: Jacqueline might not find Kim G threatening like Dirty D but when the two Kim’s conspire to set this up (which I believe they did) I would not speak to either one ever again. It was Kim D’s event, why sit the ladies across from each other? Kim G going back and forth playing everyone for screen time. I would not expose my family in that way.
    Last thing, Ashely. I have an 18 year old and let me tell you he would be picking up his teeth from the floor if he ever spoke to me that way. It might not be PC to say this but I will be damn if my child spoke to me that way!

  45. rawhideaz says:

    JZ Twitter:

    @alexarayjoel call @allyzarin! I gave your mom her number when I saw her today on Joan Hamburg’s show. Hope you are having fun summer!

    Could she possibly name-drop just a little more.?

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Let’s demand someone call your daughter. They are old enough to make their own friends. If her mom wanted her dau talking to your dau, she would have given you HER number. DUH

  46. MAMAZ says:

    Nice recap HD.
    I broke down and watched the episode and WWHL. Too many teasers the past couple of weeks. I caved. *hangs head in shame*
    I agree with everyone that Theresa had every intention of starting a fight with Danielle. She says on RHONJ that she just wanted to be nice and calls everyone honey. But on WWHL she tells Andy that she wanted to talk to Danielle about the rumours she has been starting. Two different stories=red flag!
    I think we are seeing the real Jacq this season. Caroline alluded to it on the first reunion. That Jacq is more than capable of standing up for herself, yada yada yada. What she meant was Jacq’s a bitch too.
    Ashley wasn’t trying to protect anybody. As someone else pointed out Danielle was cowering an a corner crying when Trashley pulled her hair. I’m not defending Trashley but I don’t believe Jacq when she says she didn’t bring her daughter into this. We saw her bring her son into it during the farm visit. They fanned the flames with Ashley then were surprised by the fire. Chris Laurita laid down the law, communicate with Danielle one more time and you’re out! But she is still fighting with Danielle, and many other people too, on Twitter and the Bravo blog and I haven’t heard that she got kicked out of the house.
    The Kims are working together behind the scenes to orchestrate these moments. I think they are doing with the guidance of the Bravo production staff. Just my opinion.
    Danielle is a willing victim. I have a hard time feeling sorry for her. Nobody deserves to be attacked. But Danielle keeps coming back for more. I think she considers it her admission fee to the world of fame and celebrity. She could leave the show and not interact with Theresa, Jacq and Ashley. They don’t live in the same town. And if she is talking to everyone who will listen about how “those woman” treat her then she is bartering her dignity for the attention. I tend to believe Theresa and Jacq on that because we Danielle doing it on the show as well.

  47. anitabee says:

    I wonder.

    Caroline summed it up perfectly to Dumb and Dumber when she told them that they messed up and made Danielle look like the victim in this scenario.

    They know that Danielle is crazy. Why keep throwing fuel on the fire by confronting her and trying to say hi. I have to say I was AMAZED to see how Bravo kept that little bit of information secret about what really set off Teresa. I actually smiled when Teresa went into table-flipping-banshee-mode and Danielle suckered punch her with the truth, “Yeah, and you’re in foreclosure!” Ahhh, those that live in glass houses…

    At the time Ashley was 18 so I understand her going over and pulling Danielle’s hair. I don’t think it was right but I understand it. Ashley was badly raised and look at the horrible influences this show has put in her life. Even her own family and family friends are bad influences. An 18 year old brat is in no way prepared to take on a mentally damaged dangerous woman like Danielle. Sure Chris and Jacq are so full of pooh when it comes to Ashley. They might say the right things but they never follow through with their threats so why would Ashley think the world holds any consenquences for her.

    In no way do I think Danielle is blameless here but wow, watching that psychopath work tweedle dee and tweedle dumb, the Kims, Bravo and the police was over the top train wreck drama. So what happens now?

    Ashley got scolded, Teresa got laid by Joe, Chris got upset with Jacq, Caroline stayed behind the scenes (that puppet-master) and Danielle probably got millions of viewers sympathy.

    I wonder if Bravo paid for their trip to Italy. I guess that comes up next.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ashley attacked an adult! This wasn’t kid vs kid high school stuff. I have no sympathy for her, Chris should toss her ass out of his house – he has little kids to protect and to raise.

    • quincyillinois says:

      I was reading your post and remembered the photo session when Jacqueline slapped (the leg?) of Ashley for mouthing off about he photos. That kind of punishment is similar to pulling hair so it may be something that Ashley has known growing up.

  48. Olivia says:

    When Trashley confronted Jacqueline about the “unweavable” remark she posted on Fastbook, I had no reason to doubt that Trashley was speaking the truth concerning Jacqueline’s involvement in watching Trashley posting it. These are the mixed signals that Trashley has been getting from her mother for ages.

    Jacqueline, a woman approaching 40 yrs of age and the mother of two small boys, apparently went along with Trashley’s nonsense but as soon as the kid confronted her she lied. How low can this show go with its aggrandizement of people who have no impulse control or sense of shame? Who don’t pay their bills and are accused of forgery? Who sell sex tapes of themselves? Who consort with known criminals? Who have demonstrated a degree of violence that is unnerving? Who lie and lie about themselves and others for the opportunity to remain on camera? Who expose their kids to the worst sides of themselves and tell us what “fabulous” parents they are?

    I don’t care how much their homes cost, or what luxury cars they drive, or how much they spend on clothes, they are one notch above meth heads in their lack of morality and it pains me to admit that this behavior has rocketed them into “stardom”.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Olivia – Jacq said on WWHL that she didn’t bring Ashley into this. But we watched her calling Danielle a pig in front of her son several times on the farm trip. Then giggle and tell him mommy shouldn’t have said that in a cute little way that made it seem all the more clever to her dimwit friends. She encouraged Ashley. We know Ashley didn’t have a job so when the first text message war started she should have had her phone turned off. Ashley is still fighting with Danielle on Twitter and the Bravo blog but I haven’t heard that Chris threw her out of the house.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        After being convicted of assault, this seems to be a pattern of continued harassment. This girl and her parents are DUMB!
        Prostitution whores all of them.

    • anitabee says:

      Well said Olivia. What happened to that concept known as shame?

    • OhioGal says:

      In response to the comments about Jacqueline approving of Ashley posting ‘unbeweavable’, I have to disagree.
      I have no doubt that Jackie laughed when she heard it but I have to strongly disagree that a laugh in any way contitutes agreement or approval.
      See, I get this from my own kids all the time. My son might be doing something that is otherwise funny, but still unacceptable and I might chuckle about it. He has then said that I approved simply because I chuckled (even though I was saying during the laugh not to do it, or to stop it).
      I’ve learned that I have to control my own reaction even though I am telling him not to do something.
      Because I deal with this I can see where Jac was not in approval of Ashley’s actions but Ashley got the idea that she was.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Exactly – as an adult and a parent you can’t show agreement with bad behavior no matter how funny it may be. I have had to tell my son’s friend only once that his language and sterotypical remarks are not funny nor are they allowed in my house. He apologized and it has never happened again. That Jacq made a comment of Ashley continuing to put things on Facebook indicates that J wants to be a friend to Ashley and not a parent.

  49. ShelleyT says:

    Andy Cohen completely lost my respect during WWH recap of show. The ladies were rude and obnoxious, ignorant and determined to make themselves look tough. He lost control over the interview, letting them “fondle” each other and take away any real questioning from the interview. He let Teresa get away with not explaining the bankruptcy, which was personal and not business-related. He should have acted more like an interviewer and not their buddy. And the Bravo poll…so wrong. It was entirely Teresa. PLEASE DANIELLEE>>>>>>the plural of woman is WOMEN.
    Ex: That woman is stalking me. Ex. 2: Those WOMEN are stalking me.

    • MAMAZ says:

      ShelleyT -PLEASE DANIELLEE>>>>>>the plural of woman is WOMEN.

      I know, right? That is so annoying.

  50. Sophie says:

    First time posting but have been an avid reader for months. Not much that I can add that hasn’t already been said, other than on WWHL, Theresa’s reaction to Andy’s mazel of the week. When he announced that Bethenney got the nod………..her face was priceless! Only part of the show that didn’t make me throw up a little in my mouth.
    I grew up in Jersey and thankfully have never met nor know people like this. What a load of crap! Oh and btw, I’m a public school teacher and trust me when I say, there are enough Ashleys’ in the school population that make me rethink my career choice. Suffice to say, she’d only last half a day living in my household!

    • Night Light says:

      I think Bravo stirs the pot as well. I love my Bethenny but why Mazel her when she could of have had that title for so many other reasons on a different night other than to shove it in Teresa’s face? Mind you I didn’t see WWH since I dont want to support RHONJ nothing but trash. Waiting for my baby Jeffrey from Flipping Out

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Because Andy is a passive-aggressive woman hater?

        • Maxine49 says:

          Oh you got that right….in spades!

        • Squirrels says:

          Andy Cohen and cohorts are demonstrating all the attributes of misogyny. The encourage, then display bad female behavior as if the characters are bears in a zoo.

          In my opinion, this sham of a show doesn’t fall on any of the cast members. It falls squarely on Bravo. They film it, they edit it, they own it.

          Andy best hope no looney cast member or off their meds ex fan thows a pie in his face, or a punch to his non-botoxed head. I’d be hard pressed to feel sorry for him if he lands in a hospital.

          It’s this type of television that promotes and advocates violence. Their sanctioning of semi scripted shows disguised as “real” is wrong on so many levels. He may be laughing like a hyena now, but he is perpetrating a survival skill set that goes against everything we adults were taught by a generation that was born in the great depression or internment camps. This goes well beyond drama TV. It is graffiti, pure and simple.

          ANDY COHEN HAS OFFICIALLY SENT ME BACK TO THE FORCE. No more “Dark Side” for me. He is a Jerry Springer embarrassment to industry, an active participant in the degradation of women in general, and should not be in a place where he gets to choose what is ethical and appropriate professionally for the network. He lacks morality.

          I’ll finish out Beth’s show and watch Top Chef, but beyond that I’m done with Bravo reality shows. They have zero to offer intelligent adults.

          Some day I hope to read People Mag to discover Andy has been sued for sending mentally unstable people over the edge. No pre-nup will protect him since he’s been watching it unfold all season w/ Kelly and the NJ crew, all the while licking his lips and rubbing the dollar signs in his eyes.

          • Jules says:

            Yes, Squirrel, I remember years ago I used to watch the Arsenio Hall show. Then one season he decided to get real policitcal, and brought up politics, and questioned everyone one of his guests about their policitcal affliation on his show. I got mad, promised myself I wouldn’t watch his show anymore, but thought it was just my personal little stand that would go unnoticed. Little did I know that tons of people felt the way I did, and did the same thing I did, and within a year, poof he is gone. I read in a magazine about a year later that he lost his show because he alienated so many of his viewers with his personal politics that they just stopped watching. Arsenio Hall fell into complete obscurity, and has been there ever since. It would serve Andy right if the same thing happened to him.

          • tuzentswurth says:

            Remember The Jenny Jones Show? That bimbo encouraged the crazies to entertain at all costs and drive up the ratings. Sound familiar? I thought KKB’s behavior would have given Andy pause, but there was that shit-eating grin again.
            Thanks Maxine49 and Squirrels, I thought it was just me:-0

            • Maxine49 says:

              It’s time Any Cohen’s misogyny was out in the open for all to see and examine. I had seen snippets of it previously…but now it is full blown and it is quite distrurbing.

  51. Zipit Zarin says:

    http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/spencer-pratt-to-crash-hills-finale-party-2010137

    “Anyone craving a little misbehaving?” he hinted on Twitter. He also wrote, “Booking my room @Roosevelt Hotel Hollywood now that I have no place to live I think i should just move in there today [to] stay near the action.”

    Pratt — who was kicked off the show after he threatened to kill a female producer — declared that he’d go out with a bang Tuesday night. “every dog has it’s day. and tomorrow is my day.”

    I predict the violence on these shows is going to escalate until someone dies. Andy would probable show it and have that shit eating grin on his face the whole time. Ugh

    • babelony says:

      So funny. I wrote my post above before seeing this, but “shit eating grin” is the perfect desription, is it not? LOL

    • Maxine49 says:

      I really think you are right….this swill will not stop swirling until someone is seriously injured or is killed. I’m beginning to think that Andy Cohen is a sociopath.

    • Squirrels says:

      Guess Andy has forgotten about the murder of Scott Amedure who was a guest on Jenny Jones’ talk show.

      “On March 6, 1995, Jenny Jones taped an episode called “Same Sex Secret Crushes” on which Scott Amedure, a gay man, confessed to his best friend Jonathan Schmitz, that he had a crush on him. Schmitz’s response was mostly humorous as he laughed about that revelation in front of the audience. However, three days after the taping, Schmitz, allegedly upset over that incident, killed Amedure. After the murder made headlines, the producers decided not to air the show. However, the episode did air on Court TV when the network was covering the trial. Clips of the episode were also featured in the HBO documentary, Talked to Death.

      Schmitz’s history of mental illness and alcohol/drug abuse came to light during the trial in which Schmitz was later convicted of second degree murder. He is currently serving a 25-50 year prison term.[1]”

      for more, go to:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jenny_Jones_Show

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Well, Hell! I should have scrolled further down before I posted above. Seems Maxine49, Squirrels and I are all thinking alike. Great minds and all that stuff, eh?

  52. AmyW says:

    I just hate how Andy Cohen dont treat Danielle liket he rest of the lasies. He is suppost not take sides. look how he was when she sang. No Im not a Danielle fan but CLEARLY TERESA is running around and in blogs telling us not to buy her book, he laughs when they laugh at her song. I just hope they find a new cast for next season or do with out the RHONJ. They are so petty.

  53. Olivia says:

    These people overall are thugs. They have been this way all their lives. Threatening, pushing, shoving and hitting other people is second nature to them. The travesty is that they are showcased as “The Real Housewives of NJ” when they should be considered for the liars and frauds that they really are.

    Bullying in any form is horrendous for anyone who has been on the receiving end. I am not defending Danielle by any means but suggesting that what we saw last night, along with the sorry excuses and lame attempts to “pretty it up” is the problem. There are nitwits out there who take their lead from what they see on t.v. Rather than address the problem of grown women behaving like miserable “teen queens”, the event was treated as something that was “amusing”. I don’t give a fig for anyone of those women but to suggest that this was not a form of bullying when we witnessed women chasing another down a hallway then grabbing hold of her hair as demonstrated by a stupid teen who wanted a piece of the action, is glossing over what bullying can do.

    Finding it amusing, then choosing up sides as to who deserved the prize, is bordering on psychopathy from a network that brings this corruption into our homes. I can turn it off but there are some who live for this stuff and last night Bravo basically gave a “green light” to many out there who invent reasons to behave like neanderthals.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I am a complete hypocrite for watching these shows and then condemning the actions on them. If not for ratings they wouldn’t exist. I won’t be watching anymore or contributing here. I have to rip it off like a band-aid. This is a great group of people and I’ll miss you all but I just can’t stand myself anymore.

      I’m out.

      • babelony says:

        hey, stick around for BGM. I don’t watch RHNJ, but I’m still here for the chat and the other shows.

      • error 404 says:

        I refuse to watch, or read, and even try to refrain for commenting. Unsuccessfully it seems. lol But I do try. These people are trash, this show is trash, Cohen and Bravo are trash for showing it. as my grandma used to say “you lie down with dogs, you get fleas” . Ok, now I’m off to take my Hartz bath.

        • twoile says:

          I whole hartedly agree w/U. I fear Brovo/Andy have gone for the lowest common denominator of behaviorfor the quickest reaction/result which appears to translate (in their minds) to success via viewership numbers. I for one will decline to watch any Atl, NJ, ?OC.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Oliva’s insight:
      “I can turn it off but there are some who live for this stuff and last night Bravo basically gave a “green light” to many out there who invent reasons to behave like neanderthals.”

      Opened up the Boston Herald to this:

      “A college graduate accused of stomping another woman’s unborn daughter to death as she dragged the mother-to-be across the floor of a Dorchester nail salon was set free yesterday after her parents posted her $20,000 cash bail”

      “Assistant Suffolk District Attorney Leora Joseph said Catron and her unborn child “had no chance” as Woodhouse’s alleged kicks and punches tore the placenta away from Catron’s uterus the night of April 10 inside Tulip’s Nails Salon on Neponset Avenue.”

      “The baby girl was delivered stillborn the morning of April 11 after its tiny heartbeat faded away.”

      “The chat “slowly escalated into a heated argument” that climaxed with Woodhouse allegedly flooring Catron with a punch to the head, the prosecutor said.”

      and Miss Andy encouraging this kind of mindset?

      My blog name might have to be changed to: SickToMyStomachInBoston

      • babelony says:

        OMG—sick!

      • Maxine49 says:

        So, we now see that crazy Danielle may not really be so far off the mark with her comments. What if that fat lard ass Teresa had caught up with her and either hit her or pushed her and she fell and hit her head on the edge of a table of the floor…she could have died or become disabled. We also saw in the Boston area a couple of years ago two fathers fighting at the hockey rink and one father fell and hit his head and died. Danielle was smart to flee…I don’t like or condone Danielle, but I’m calling it as I see it, drama queen and all.

    • quincyillinois says:

      Teresa’s discussion with Joe during the pool game was interesting. He followed her logic right into the toilet.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      which housewives? not NY maybe NJ???

    • Squirrels says:

      “Of her frenemies on the show, Bensimon suggests they’re both critical and jealous of her: “Whether it’s my nail color, my hair color, or the shoes I’m wearing, everything about me bothers them…They want to go to the parties I go to, they want to hang out with me, they want to do the things that I’m doing.’ ”

      Right. I can just see Sonja, Beth, Alex, or Ramona clamoring to scale a wall ala Charlie’s Angels to get to anything Skanky Skelly attends.

      What a tool.

  54. 2Stupid says:

    Did anyone think it was funny on WWHL that Andy named Bethenny his mazel of the week. He said not for making the People cover (plug), but for her styling 80’s cat sweater she was wearing in one of the pictures. I bet Teresa was fuming. He didn’t really let her plug her book, and she had to hear about Bethenny! Sometimes I think Andy does play favorites, and since they coincide with mine, I don’t really have a problem.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      While I am not liking Andy too much these days I have to say this – the guests he had on (Teresa, Jacq and Ashley) can’t hold an intelligent conversation or answer questions – he could have had sock puppets of them and the show would have been 1000% BETTER.

    • Squirrels says:

      He talks from both sides of his mouth and he’s not good at hiding it. I hope the bitch in heat goes down.

  55. Olivia says:

    Somebody please prove to me that Theresa is a college graduate.

    “Ain’t I a nice person?” is not exactly the words of a person who was ever familiar with the contents of a book. She barely knows how to pronounce ordinary words or formulate a sentence without sounding like a complete moron.

    I swear to God their combined IQ, even when throwing Albie the Budding Lawyer into the mix, must average about 85.

    • boston02127 says:

      She can’t even pronounce easy words. It’s not some language barrier either, she doesn’t know how to say certain words. Did you hear her say the word cleavage last night? “clev-la-dige”

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Her IQ is lower than her number of children. Ain’t it?

    • Maxine49 says:

      Are you serious? Have you read that she is a college graduate? OMG, that simply cannot, MUST NOT, be true…for the love of god and everything that is holy…that hairy beast is boderline mentally retarded.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Her degree (don’t know if it is a two year, four year or special) is in fashion merchandising or something useful in retail. Give da gurl some love – look at those adorable little trogladytes – she even taught them how to prace around like little circus monkeys in those stylish outfits! Gucci, Gucci, oooooooohhhh!

  56. boston02127 says:

    Have a good day everyone. 🙂

  57. kats2 says:

    What did Tereas mean when she was telling Danielle she was from Patterson NJ, is that like a bad part of NJ or known for girl street thugs? She said like Danielle should look out/be careful.

  58. Adios Lunatic says:

    I swear those women stoop to a new low every single week. I didn’t watch (Rizzoli and Isles was much better) but saw WWHL and your blog recap and of course all of the commercials for the past two weeks and I feel like I did watch.

    Teresa started that fight. No question in my mind at all. Also, Teresa and Jac managed to do what I thought was impossible — they made Danielle ever so slightly sympathetic. Don’t get me wrong — I believe Danielle is beyond evil — but with the way they were coming after her (after she baited them) just played into her fake drama act. I’m sure she was physically hurt, but she played that to the hilt.

    Teresa, you are a brainless troll. You should have listened to Caroline and stayed out of everything. If you wanted to talk to D “woman to woman” then call her instead of creating more drama to up your camera time.

  59. tuzentswurth says:

    If Teresa waited for Danielle to make nice and apologize, let me give her advice:
    When you see Danielle, stand up, approach her at a socially acceptable distance and say….”Danielle, I want to apologize for …..(insert bad behaviors that you are sorry for)…..
    It was wrong of me and I hope you’ll forgive me. ”
    If you are received poorly, then walk away, you have done what you wanted and your conscience is clear. End of story.

    If Terrorista wanted to make nice, then I’m the Emporer of the world and I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

    Now that Assley is convicted, it paves the way for Danielle to file a civil suit for damages against her. What a dumb girl!

  60. kats2 says:

    For anyone who cares or can bare to hear Teresa’s lies she posted her Bravo blog. More BS as far as I’m concerned.

    • error 404 says:

      “I am not crazy. I am unpredictable,” Bensimon says. And in case you were wondering, “I’m not in therapy.”

      Yes, and I totally agree with Kelly, unpredictable people are dangerous.

      • babelony says:

        This comment made me LOL:

        Put the crackpipe down Tranny!! No one wants to be you……

      • Jules says:

        Wasn’t it Kelly that said on the Reunion episode that unpredictablity leads to danger. That was her justification for saying that Ramona, Bethenny, Alex and Sonja were dangerous. So I guess she is now saying that she is not crazzy, just dangerous. I’m thinking CRAZY DANGEROUS!!!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        But unpredictable means dangerous too. Hmmmm she might be getting closer to the truth of what she did on SJVI. It seems pointless for her to go to therapy – she won’t get it because it requires a brain!

    • error 404 says:

      It’s a far cry from her previous role as Gilles’s wife. “When I was married, I was protected. No one was allowed to talk about me,” she remembers.

      I knew it! I also suspect she’s more protected now than most people. Just not as much as before.

    • error 404 says:

      “I tell my girls, ‘Your mom gets paid to engage in inappropriate behavior.’ It’s an amazing opportunity for them to see that being mean is not okay.

      Unless you get paid to be mean, then it’s ok? Kiki is so confusing.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        WTF?? Prostitutes get paid to engage in inappropriate behavior too.
        Lesson to children:
        ANYTHING is OK if somebody gives you money to do it.

      • felony stupid says:

        404 – Excellent!! Dayam that girl is d u m b. Glad she’s admitting she’s mean for pay though.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      The emperor really does have no clothes. Again KKB, just STFU. Lay low. You aren’t winning points here.
      Mag should change name to Harper’s Bizarre!
      It seems to me they get it though, it is not a tribute to KKB’s sanity or judgement.

  61. m293131 says:

    My kids are 24 and 21 and I agree at this age they are considered legal adults and it is hard to monitor everything they do but if i told my kids not to text or e-mail someone and they did – they would lose cell phones and interet – easy

  62. jennifer says:

    Kelly’s tweet-

    @jamieealexaa bravo wanted me on the show to legitimize the show. Bravo doesnt like kids, dogs, horses, creativity, hard work, and love

    What the hell does she mean to “legitimize” the show? She makes the who real, so first season was fake? WHAT????

    • error 404 says:

      Be a “legitimate” NY socialite, as opposed to the shrill wife of a discount fabric store owner, fake nobility, a discount overstock wholesale clothing saleswoman, social climbing brooklynites, a fledgling “cook”, etc…

      Sonja and Kiki refused season 1, as did countless “legitimate” NY society housewives. Kiki was married to a famous guy and as a couple they actually would show up in the paper and get invited to events.

      The bat-shit crazy just came as a perk. I have a feeling that we haven’t seen “rich & crazy” until DC debuts. I won’t watch, but all indications seem to point toward “they wouldn’t dare commit me, I know the right people”.

      • Maxine49 says:

        Don’t get me wrong, I just love my Sonja, but she was a restaurant hostess in NYC by way of upstate NY with a beauty pageant past when she met her husband—a great great grandson of financier JP Morgan…and she’ll be the first to tell you that….she’s no phony beatch like the Countless.

  63. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Hello All!

    Just came up for air as i’ve been packing and unpacking because… WE BOUGHT A NEW HOUSE!!! WOOOOHOOOOOO

    I’d like to personally thank you guys for keeping me busy during the agonizing wait for approval and purchase. Without this blog and SUGAR, I would’ve gone bonkers.

    Now on to the meat and veg as SIMON says.

    TERESA DID IT! WHAT? EVERYTHING!!!

    She is the calculating bankruptcy whore, who purposely waited for Danielle outside the bathroom. She was so angry over the rumors that Danielle was spreading about her financial troubles. She wanted to engage Danielle and let her have it. I really believe she wanted to get physical with Danielle, however, Danielle wasn’t going that route. It would have been a melee, with too many folks getting freebies at Danielle’s expense.

    I don’t believe Danielle wanted to physically or verbally fight anyone. She was there to be seen on her show and make a few comments about the other women. She never expected, even though she hired a bodyguard, that she’d be chased and attacked. She didn’t provoke Neanderthal T, JackieJoker or ScummyJowlyAshley. Teresa started, Jac scared but invested defended Teresa, and Ashley, cowardly whore that she is took a cheap shot at Danielle. Ashley indeed should have been prosecuted. Her total disrespect for adults, speaks volumes as to how she would bully or attack a young girl her own age. Whatever learning disability that asshole has, which I believe is called I’M A BITCH…SO WHAT? is accompanied by her stupid half-smile, vacant eyes and ignorant speech. Also HA seems to be a side effect of her condition.

    Until next time ladies and gents.

  64. Buffywood says:

    I can’t stomach these Jersey’s Girls anymore than I can stomach those pigs on the MTV Show “The Jersey Shore” or whatever it is called. The behavior of both is so over the top unacceptable. I don’t understand how the girls on the Jersey Shore can get physical like they do and not get arrested. I was channel surfing and saw an episode briefly where a female patron at a bar must have said something to one of them (maybe said something about one of them being fat) and it was like the girl lost her mind. She ran over and started swinging; grabbing her clothes, pulling her hair… it was very violent. The other housemates dragged her off; they all laughed about the whole thing, and then went back to drinking. What the hell? Unfortunately our young kids see this behavior and then see the same girl on the red carpet at some event on TV. It is beyond comprehension how we as a society can not only accept this type of behavior but on many levels we reward it.

    Andy enjoying it? Are you kidding me? There are very few things in this world I hate, but violence is definitely one of them.

    I bet Ashley’s goal in life now is to be the next skank on a 20 something reality show.

  65. kats2 says:

    I seriously might need to take break from Bravo. Between Jill, Kelly and the NJ Cast I really can’t stand it. I loathe everything about them and specifically how they are going about trying to stay relevant and make money.

    • Buffywood says:

      The only thing on Bravo I can’t see giving up is West Wing in the morning. I always put it on in the background in my office. On my desk at work I must look SO productive as I have three monitors… two I use for work and the 3rd has cable!

    • error 404 says:

      I watch BGM?, My Life on D-List, and Work of Art. Sometimes Top Chef. Project Runway was 100x better on Bravo, but I still watch on Lifetime. It’s the only thing I have ever watched on Lifetime. LOL Will watch 9 by Design again if the get a 2nd season.

    • twoile says:

      Me too, if I wated to see animal behavior I’d go to the zoo!

  66. gypsy826 says:

    Bethenny tweeted: “Ouch.was up all night w bryn&now I drive to QVC for a “skinnygirl dish” appearance.lots of concealer today!what r u up to? ”

    I see QFC is carrying her book and there’s a 4:00 edt cooking show.

    • error 404 says:

      I know it’s social media 101, but B’s habit of ending every single post with a question to engage the reader is starting to work my last nerve.

      “what r u up to?” seriously? are we bff’s now Bethenny? should I respond “nothing. how about I pick up a six of bud and come hang with you and J and watch the game?” lol

      • babelony says:

        Funny error. You should respond with that. I wonder if she would reply.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          It’s an open ended question and an invitation to respond. Better than the name dropping pompous Jill or the meet me anywhere Kelly tweeterings.

      • Squirrels says:

        When ppl respond it bolsters her rec’d tweet count. It’s all about the numbers. Biz PR 101

  67. xenophile says:

    off topic, and apologies if this has already been posted:

    new article on Bethenny on huffingtonpost – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jag-carrao/bossy-bethenny-but-rulesy_b_643740.html

    Love how she’s getting so much positive attention these days – jill & kelly must be so peeved ! 🙂

    • error 404 says:

      that’s a little weird.

    • TLM says:

      OMG, I don’t know what makes me want to puke more — “The Rules” book or “Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus.” These nauseating books claim to have the secret to relationship success by fitting everyone into a box. The trouble is, it’s all BS. Particularly The Rules, whose co-author was such an expert at keeping a marriage intact that hers fell apart while they were still doing a book tour for The Rules. How embarrassing THAT must have been! Bethenny managed to get engaged to THREE wealthy men and married to one. In the view of the Rules authors, these were all equally successful. To them, getting the guy is everything — it doesn’t matter whether it’s actually a good match, or whether this relationship will be good for either of you to grow. And Bethenny said that each of these relationships made her feel like a sellout.

      There is nothing “Rulesy” about naming a baby after the dead. In fact, it is a Jewish tradition, and some even reject it because they want their child to have its own identity rather than someone who died in the family. I find it offensive that Bryan’s brother dying was somehow twisted here to fit into the Rules’ supposed prescriptions. According to this article, any type of compromise with a partner is following their “Rules”. In fact, it is just being a partner and being considerate of that person’s feelings. It goes both ways.

      I could go on but I just can’t stand to dignify that piece of trash book any more. Bethenny acted the way she did because she was in love, not because she was following anyones’ rules. And she would be the last person on EARTH to be told how to act to get a guy. She is her own person, as we all should be. At times I’ve thought she is too harsh, but that never stopped her from getting a commitment from five men. Five.

  68. Hey everyone, Im sorry if Im being redundant. I posted earlier about the voting on WWHL last night and am curious if anyone else had tried to vote. I tried to vote for Theresa for starting the fight but my votes were not going thru..Bravo replied “sorry , you can’t direct message Bravo’lebrities and/ or you sent an invalid text..” I tried to vote 15 times and it never went thru..to double check if i was doing something wrong i texted in “ashley” and the vote went in!
    I have to believe that Bravo was rigging the vote and I AM SO UPSET about it…..that’s why if anyone else voted or had a similar experience, please let me know……………
    thanks so much

    • quincyillinois says:

      The lines may have been overloaded. Andy said it was their biggest vote. I was surprised that people thought it was Daniell’s fault too, I thought Teresa started everything.

    • error 404 says:

      I didn’t vote, nor did I watch, but I did mean to respond above that I think it’s outrageous that it wouldn’t let you vote Teressa.

      • Buffywood says:

        yet one more thing about Bravo that makes me question their integrity and motives.

        • tuzentswurth says:

          I don’t know how anyone could have watched that and thought anyone other than Teresa started it. Glad to see EVERYONE here has been in agreement. There is definitely something rotten in BravoLand.

    • Snarkella says:

      It happened to me too. I also ended up voting for Ashley.

  69. TLM says:

    I don’t know why there are all the nasty and even angry attacks on Albie Manzo, with statements ranging from him being lazy or spoiled to him goofing off and spending all his time filming instead of studying. His appearances on the show have been extremely minimal, and truly he seems like the most adult, responsible and practical of any of the kids. Albie says he is LD and I take that at face value. That means by law under the Americans With Disabilities Act, there has to be a reasonable accomodation made for that, as it is made in students for other fields. Having an LD does not make it impossible to be a lawyer, but it can require additional time, just like a lawyer who’s in a wheelchair or has a heart condition (I have known both).

    Lawyers are as varied as people in other jobs. We come in all different flavors, sizes and shapes. That means that some lawyers have disabilities. If everyone accepted into law school did great because they were “good enough to get in,” there would be no class rankings and no bad grades. I saw people who were extremely smart and presented well struggle with grades, while others I wouldn’t hire on a bet sailed right through with no problem (don’t ask me why — no one understands this). It is also worth noting that students routinely do well when they think they failed, and don’t do well then they think they did. IMO having no clear sense of how you did on a test means something is seriously fucked up with the system. Never in any other area of academia have I seen this occur.

    Keep in mind also that Albie’s difficulty with school exams does not mean he would be a poor lawyer, and it is a shame that students who struggle get labeled as incompetent. It’s sad to say, but there is little connection between grades and how lawyers function in the real world. And there is an old adage that the LSAT has nothing to do with law school, which has nothing to do with the bar exam, which has nothing to do with the practice of law. Still, firms and schools for the most part continue to adhere to rigid and inflexible benchmarks for the sake of maintaining tradition, even as many people who were successful in this regard are fleeing the profession and job dissatisfaction is at an all-time high. It’s a system that’s imploding, but for the most part refuses to change nonetheless.

    Harvard Law just did away with grades and moved to a pass/fail system with fewer classifications. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2008/9/26/harvard-law-school-adopts-pass-fail-grading/. Arguably one could say that even the lowest-ranked student at Harvard will still get a decent job, so there’s no need for grades there. Most other schools are still sticking to a traditional graded system.

    Recently there was an attorney who got suspended because he lied about his grades. Before you start thinking about what a loser he is, consider that he worked for FOUR large and prestigious law firms for whom his work was apparently good enough before this came to light. He left when was ready to leave each of them. This issue seems to have gotten lost in the news coverage, which instead focused on how terrible it was that the riff-raff got accepted into the fold of the white-shoe firms, and how dare he breathe their rarified air. No doubt they’re uncomfortable that this proves what most lawyers already know: C students are not only usually better with clients, they’re more creative and better in practice than the “star students.” Many of the A students can’t write a simple business letter, or even make a persuasive argument. Something to think about.

    I wish Albie the best, and I hope he finds a place for himself that’s better than where he was.

    http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202458536396&Former_Big_Firm_Lawyer_Suspended_for__Years_Over_Fake_Resume&cp=EMC-Email-LJ-VertResp

  70. I don’t know, Quincy. Andy says that every week. my vote always went thru. If i was voting for Danielle, who got 57% , maybe. The vote for Ashley got counted, but not one for Theresa? 15x? Somethings not Kosher……

    • tuzentswurth says:

      I too wonder if phone lines get so jambed that many votes coming in for a person don’t get counted.
      I know people who tried repeatedly to vote for Adam Lambert on AI and NEVER got thru, so none of those voted counted. They all need a better system.

  71. quincyillinois says:

    Teresa was ticked that Andy would bring up the foreclosure issue last night. I think that some of the Giudice homes were owned by Joe’s company. I’ve seen that around here. People have corporations, the corporations own investment properties like a home on Lake Ozark or as in the Guidice case, a home on the Jersey shore. The reason those homes are in the bankruptcy and the palace is not is that the palace is either in a land trust or in the names of Teresa and Joe, not the corporation that Joe owns. Jacqueline’s husband is in the same boat as Joe. His company filed bankruptcy, but his home is not a part of the transaction because with many corporations, the debt is not a personal debt of the owner of the company.

    Teresa isn’t smart enough to be able to explain this so she wigs out on Danielle.

    I’ve seen a lot od companies go down in this recession and the owners didn’t have to quit the country club or give up that cruise. It doesn’t make it fair to the creditors, but that is how the state laws work for corporations.

    • I didn’t know Jacks husband filed for bankruptcy…

      • tuzentswurth says:

        I believe his “company” filed for bankruptcy.

      • quincyillinois says:

        There was a link on this website to an article stating that Jacqueline’s husband’s clothing company had filed for bankruptcy. He shares the company with another Laurita brother. Apparently, they had huge contracts with stores but with the economy, they had trouble. We had a discussion about the Laurita house too. I don’t remember when this took place, but it’s in the not too distant past.

    • Jules says:

      You are missing the point here. Teresa said that it was Joe, and his partner that were in bankruptcy, so even if the home was owned by the business it would be apart of the bankruptcy. Furthermore, we all know Teresa was lying because we have seen the court papers, and it is a peronal bankruptcy. Chapter 7 bankruptcies are personal with no intent to repay the debt. Chapter 13 are personal with intent to repay some of the debt on an adjusted basis through a bankruptcy court. Chapter 11 is a business bankruptcy. This is not a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, so the only way they would be able to keep their personal home was if it was an asset of the business.

      • Thank-you, up-thread to BOSTON! for what you said about ALBIE-I agree!

        If the entire bankrupture was business, how does the $12,000 fertility clinic bill that Joe & Teresa owe figger?
        I know that in NJ, your personal home that you live in, no matter how much it is worth, is usually safe in bankruptcy, as long as you can keep up the payments. (which they “proved” by saying that “family” gifts them 10 grand per mo.)
        Speaking about the fertility clinic, I’m still rather ticked about the fact that we, (the audience), were lied-to.
        If they don’t want to disclose fertility issues, that’s one thing. Even in a “reality”-show, some things are private.
        But what was all that about Joe being “snipped?” That’s why I say that the fertility clinic treatment IS our business.
        Because it does not make ANY sense. No matter how you try to explain it.
        If a woman asks a man to have a vasectomy, and says that she does not want to have her tubes tied, which means that she also, is teeming with fertility…..so WHY did they use at least 12 grand worth of fertility treatments?
        The only explanation that has been put-forth, is that they were trying to do something that would help them have a boy baby.
        And somehow, although it is possible that they would look into that idea considering that they already had three girls, does THAT procedure cost 12 grand?
        And it doesn’t look like they did that anyhow, since they had another girl baby. (I know it doesn’t always work-but 12 thousand????)
        Something is not right there and I wish that Andy would have asked last night.
        I’m going to make that the only re-union question that I push for since it has been driving me nuts.

        • Jules says:

          Hi,

          This is not altogether true. You are allowed to keep your house, but not if you have tons of equity. They will make you liquidate your home to pay your creditors. Equity is an assest, and why would they allow someone to file bankruptcy with say a million in equity, when they can just turn around, sell their home, and have a million in cash. Furthermore, with them only reporting $79,000/year in income, if they don’t have a bunch of equity, how would they make payments on a home valued at that amount. On a $1,000,000 at 5% interest, the payments would be $5,000/month, principle and interst only. That does not take into consideration the taxes, and insurance which would easily add on another $1,000/month, and if you don’t put down at least 20% you would need the loan covered by a mortgage insurance company, or at least by FHA. That would mean there would be a PMI insurance payment, or FHA insurance premium added to their payment. So, even on a $1,000,000 house we are talking about $7,000/mth payments without a big downpayment. Now take into consideration the fact that their homes is suppose to be worth five times that. Really, how do you afford that kind of payment with an income of $79,000/yr.

          Now, I don’t believe for a minute that they only make $79,000/yr, because they would have had to meet underwriting guidelines, and they simply wouldn’t have been able to meet the guidelines on a home of this value with the income they are quoting. The judge will see at the very least that something just Ain’t right here folks. But then maybe the judge is on the take to the mob. Just saying, to quote Danielle. LOL

          • Jules says:

            Maybe the famliy is gifting them the 10k/mth with the Joe supposedliy ripped his partner off of through forgery.

            • Jules says:

              Can you smell crooked? LOL

            • Really good point Jules.
              And I think that’s why they took their “5 MILLION!!!??” (according to Teresa, (stupidly), last night, dollar house OFF the market recently.
              When the news that the house had been listed by a Realtor© got out, the lies about the homes value were exposed, so that’s why I think they took it right OFF the market.
              About the fertility treatments. My bad. they really are expensive for sex-selection. If someone does the “deluxe” method, where they take embryos & genetically test, and then implant the cost is $18,490. The less-expensive sperm-washing technique is in the 3-thousands. (here’s a quote/w link) “SEX SELECTION WITH 99.9% GUARANTEE OF CHOSEN GENDER. INCLUDES IVF FEE. Prices in New York slightly higher. $18,490”
              http://www.fertility-docs.com/fertility_fees.phtml?PHPSESSID=366fcc7765eef9261a3335b54764fe6f

          • Maxine49 says:

            They built the house themselves…they no doubt used construction loans, not a conventional mortgage. But I’m sure they still owe huge amounts on that monstrosity of a house.

            • Jules says:

              Maxine49 – I get that since they had it built themselves, and it was not a pre-existing structure, but construction loans are just that, they are used to finance the building of a home, and draws are taken to pay the contractors, etc. These are not long term loans like mortgaes for 15 to 30 years, they are loans used for the sole purpose of financing a construction. Once a construction is complete, the construction loan is paid off by a regular mortgage. If this was never done, the construction loan people would foreclose on that loan, and any contractors that hadn’t gotten paid would file mechanics liens. Typically the same company that makes the construction loan, automatically converts the construction loan to a regular mortgage upon completion of the dwelling. So either way, the construction loan is in foreclosure, or the construction loan was converted, and their declared income cannot support the payments on a home of this value. The really important thing for the judge would be to see the income they declared when they got the original loan approved. You can bet it wasn’t $79,000, or the mortgage company that financed it will be going belly up any day now.

              • Maxine49 says:

                See the posts below…the bankruptcy filing shows the mortgage on the Towaco property… approx $1.7M….which is the exact “value” of the house that they list in the court filing….not eh $5M that Teresa claimed in last night’s episode.

              • Maxine49 says:

                I also suspect that Joe was his own contractor…he owns a stone company…isn’t the outside made of stone…and the inside is loaded with marble, granite, onyx and travertine…all came from his business. Who knows what kind of financial shenanigans ensued.

              • Maxine49 says:

                Jules, some of the unsecured creditors in the bankruptcy petition were the suppliers of materials to build the house and some of the craftsmen…so when they took out the mortgage, they failed to pay off those people. That would be a requirement of getting the mortgage, so they once again perpetrated a fraud on the bank that gave the mortgage. We are watching total glorified criminals at work here. Revolting.

            • Jules says:

              Yeah Maxine49 I saw that on the bankruptcy petition too, but I am not sure those are expenses related to the house they just had built. Typically the title insurance company would have made sure all the contractors that had worked on the house got paid, because if they weren’t the title insurance company would have to pick up the tab in the event of foreclosure, etc. I know they have several other properties, and I was thinking that perhaps those expenses were related to some of the other properties they own.

              I also figure that Joe’s company (the stone and stucco company) provided alot of those materials for the construction. I’ll bet Joe was suppose to pay something to the company for that stuff because he is not the sole proprietor of that business. Total crooks, the lot of them, but I am not surprised.

              On a separate not, I am assuming your name is Maxine, as was my maternal grandmother. Her first cousin was Grant Wood, the famous artist that created the American Gothic.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And they can only keep the mansion if they can pay a mortgage on it – so a 5 million dollar home on an annual salary of $79,000 probably wouldn’t qualify for a mortgage much less be able to make the monthly payments – I mean, who does that?????

        • Jules says:

          You’ve got that right Windy. Typically when it comes to qualifying for a mortgage loan the house payment cannot be more than 25 to 33% of your monthly income. At $79,000/yr annual income gross they claim, they wouldn’t take home more than about $5,000.mth. Being generous, the most they could then afford to spend on a house is about 200,000, not 5 million.

          • Maxine49 says:

            Someone told me that the Towaco house is worth maybe $3M tops and that it is a monstrosity…sticks out like a sore thumb in the neighborhood and that the house close by are going for about $700K. I actually did see it on the market on the realtor’s page when it first went on the market…..color pix and all. It was removed from the market and the website a little more than 24 hours after it went up. I can’t recall what the asking price was.

      • Maxine49 says:

        Teresa is a liar and a moron. She and Joe filed a personal bankruptcy. The filing a papers are all over the internet. She signed the god-damned petition…good grief, what a skanky liar!

    • Maxine49 says:

      Nope, sorry, but Teresa and Joe filed a personal bankruptcy, not a business reorganization—you’ve got it backwards.

      • quincyillinois says:

        Bankuptcy rules vary in different states. I was listening to a local online newsman explain Illinois laws because we have a Democratic Senate Candidate from Chicago whose family bank is going under. They will ask you for personal information to make sure you didn’t use corporate funds for your personal use, but that doesn’t mean your house would be involved in the corporate bankruptcy in Illinois. I have no idea what the laws are in NJ.

        • Maxine49 says:

          The bankruptcy filing is federal law, not local New Jersey law, and bankruptcy laws do not vary from state to state. The Guidice “personal” bankruptcy under Chapter 7 of the US Bankruptcy Code is widely available on-line. They are joint debtors under an individual/personal bankruptcy.

    • Maxine49 says:

      Schedule A of the Guidice’s Petition in Bankruptcy list the three houses as their real property. They own they houses. The houses are not owned by any business that Joe is a part of. Teresa is a liar. And they list the value of the house in Towaco as $1.7M, not $5M as Teresa claims in last night’s episode.

      Scroll down to Schedule A: Real Property

      I’ve read their filing and they need to be very very careful–they are perpetrating a fraud on the bankruptcy court—which is a crime. If you look at Schedule B, their list or personal property, they list the refrigerator in their Towaco house as worth $500, and the rest of the appliances as $1500—are they serious? They listed the living room furniture as $2000! They list the bedroom furniture for the 4 children’s bedrooms as a total of $2000! The lies go on and on. They list the entire value of the family’s clothing as $300; and jewelry as $500! Is their attorney bonkers? It’s freakin’ malpractice! Someone needs to alert the bankruptcy clerk, pronto. These people need to go to jail.

      • Maxine49 says:

        Also, they have a mortgage on the Towaco house for $1,718,000. So a mortgage at 5% would be monthly payments of $8590…then there’s taxes and insurance. Unless she sells trailer loads of that cookbook, no way they can keep that house!

        • Jules says:

          Maxine49, you are an attorney, and I know you must have contacts from state to state. When I use to be in charge of mortgage loan servicing we would always get referrals in other states we just started doing business in from attorneys we already had on our payroll. Call one of your buddies, and find an attorney in NJ that will call the district attorney in the district where this bankruptcy is filed. Honestly, if nothing comes from this, it is a sure fire guarantee that our suspicions of mob involvement are right on.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        The vain monkey browed thugette was stupid enough to be on a TV show and show off her house – surely the video of the property will be reviewed…..the appliances, furniture, clothes, autos will all be assessed accordingly. Is it true she didn’t list the show income or her book and online tee shirts, etc. They filed chap 7 but the feds can come back with chap 13….if they feel the petitioners didn’t meet the standards of the chap 7.

        • tuzentswurth says:

          Damn, you people are detail oriented . How’s a bitch supposed to run a scam w/you breathing down her hairy neck?

  72. TLM says:

    I’m disturbed by the nasty and even angry comments about Albie Manzo and his school situation, ranging from calling him lazy to saying he could have done well if only he didn’t waste his time filming the show. Truly I think of all the kids, Albie is the most grounded, adult and practical, and his time on the show was minimal.

    Lawyers come in all flavors, shapes and sizes. That means some of them are disabled. Albie said he’s LD and I take that at face value. That means under the Americans With Disabilities Act, he gets a reasonable accommodation. If it weren’t for ADA, people in wheelchairs would be prevented from becoming lawyers because they did not have to be given access to the classrooms. People with LDs are capable of working as lawyers, although it may dictate the type of practice they do.

    People have made the comment that “if you’re good enough to get in, you’re good enough to do well.” This is not necessarily the case. It is an old adage that the LSAT has nothing to do with law school, which has nothing to do with the Bar Exam, which has nothing to do with the actual practice of law. It’s sadly true. It’s also true that most students who do well on exams in law school are convinced they failed, while those who feel they did well usually did not. IMO this is the byproduct of a seriously fucked up system. I have never seen this phenomenon in any other area of academia.

    Law school grades are often a poor reflection of a person’s actual ability to function as a lawyer or interact with clients. I have met A-students who I would not hire on a bet. There was an attorney who recently was suspended for lying about his grades in order to get hired. Before you label him a loser, consider the fact that he worked at FOUR big law firms for whom his work was apparently satisfactory. He left each of them when he was ready to leave. The interesting thing is that the news coverage of this story ignored this fact, instead focusing on how dreadful it was that this sort of riff-raff was allowed into white-shoe firms and allowed to breathe their rarefied air. Instead it proved what most lawyers know: the C-students are the most creative and the best with clients, while the A students are hired at large firms to be stuck in a back office and do photocopying and document coding (but they get paid six figures to do so. No, they don’t merit that kind of pay, but it’s passed on to you, the client). Something to think about.

    It’s interesting that Harvard Law adopted a pass/fail system recently, but the smaller law schools are not doing this. Arguably even the lowest-ranked student at Harvard will find a decent job somewhere — deservedly or not.

    http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202458536396&Former_Big_Firm_Lawyer_Suspended_for__Years_Over_Fake_Resume&cp=EMC-Email-LJ-VertResp

  73. TLM says:

    Don’t know if I’ve been knocked off the blog, but I’ve tried posting twice and nothing shows up. Anyone else having this problem?

  74. TLM says:

    Now it says I already posted something, but I can’t find it… I give up….

  75. ShelleyT says:

    Last night, Bethenny was on the Wendy Williams Show. When asked about Jill Zarin she replied “that is in the past. It is so 2009”. Wendy asked if Jill sent a baby gift and Bethenny said NO. That was shocking to me!!

  76. Denise says:

    Jill wasn’t invited to Bethenney’s wedding and I’ll bet you anything that she cleared out of town to somewhere tropical or to Europe. “We couldn’t attend because were were in Trinidad for the Festival of the Frog!” ” We were looking at finishing schools in Paris for Alyson!” (or whatever her poor kid’s name is.

    Nooooo, you couldn’t attend because you weren’t invited. 🙂

    • error 404 says:

      she couldn’t attend because she had to wish a happy belated birthday to Lulu’s daughter victoria. lol

  77. tuzentswurth says:

    Does anyone know what happened to these two events mentioned here yesterday?

    1. Jill’s sister making some kind of announcement.

    2. KKB answering questions on (I think) her twitter acct this am from 10-11.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yesterday someone said the Lisa Wexler late breaking news was on corruption in real estate transactions in some town on Long Island. And it was an exclusive but had nothing to do with Jill.
      Don’t know about the tweeter question.

    • CuckooforCocoaPuffs says:

      I don’t know how to copy a twitter page, but there wasn’t much news in KKB’s hour + of answering questions…. Bravo doesn’t like horses and kids and love, they love drama. She has a new gig that will be announced in a few weeks. She is tired of having to relive scary island. She doesn’t need therapy. She was considered for a Bravo show with Tim Gunn that she really wanted but didn’t get. People don’t like models except Heidi Klum because she is so approachable…jelly beans aren’t healthy but they are good…thank you for caring but its only a tv show. she brought the ratings. blah blah blah blah

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Thanks, I’m not on twitter, but did figure out how to find her insane ramblings. Pretty boring and mindless as I figured.

  78. HD says:

    Thanks everyone for the comments on the blog! I have no clue how Lynn does that every week. My mind was racing! Those women are nuts! Dina was smart to get off that show!

    Thank you again Lynn for letting me add my two cents!

  79. cuckooforcocoapuffs says:

    I don’t believe this – I thought Luanne was in France with new boy toy???

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search?updated-max=2010-07-13T10:43:00-07:00&max-results=5

    Middle of the page…………

    • boston02127 says:

      I almost didn’t make it to the middle of the page. After seeing “Hef doesn’t have sex, he makes love” I shivered then threw up in my mouth.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Very funny, at the top story also they mention that Playboy isn’t selling very well anymore. Maybe that is why they have to get sorry-assed old broads like KKB to pose now. They can’t afford anything worth looking at. After seeing her bikini pics…who wants to see more?

      • Maxine49 says:

        I read that the pics of Kelly that were in Playboy were pix from the 90’s that were submitted and rejected at that time. Those pics they showed being taken on RHONY were NOT in Playboy. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

        • Squirrels says:

          The cover was taken by a playboy photog. The pics inside are predominantly Giles, taken years ago.

          • tuzentswurth says:

            And probably heavily retouched like the Harpers Bazaar photo appears. That’s not our Kelly’s skin in that pic, no way.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      So the Countass is a gay cougar??? Please it also sounded like she was making out with a younger version of herself???

    • twoile says:

      Truth never gets in the way of a story line.

  80. viki55 says:

    Someone mentioned plastic surgery and Joan Van Ark….I had to go find a picture….can you believe this? Is that really her?

    • Adgirl says:

      She makes me so sad. What a waste of a fab actress. I adored KL. I would give my first born to have DVD or videos of it. Well, maybe my first born if they are DVDs. If you have KL on video for me you will get my second born but w/ this caution label – he is cute but messy. And he eats a lot.

      • kats2 says:

        Wow great memories of KL, that’s when the bitches on TV were good bitches they had class and style and you loved to hate them. Good times 🙂

      • jillz68 says:

        Another KL fan! I was a huge fan and wish Soapnet would bring it back. Now off to look for the DVD’s…..

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Loved KL and the cast. It is sad what she has done to herself.

    • twoile says:

      How sad.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      well it sounds like once they start down the road of botox and plastic surgery they lose the ability to really see themselves. it is sad, but that particular “look” is getting pretty common – watching RHONJ marathon you could actually see Danielle’s lips getting bigger and bigger during the past season.

      • quincyillinois says:

        My anesthesiologist daughter has sat in on cases where women in their 40’s have major work done on their faces. They started having fillers in their 30’s and it causes rippling of the skin over time. She wants me to skip the face lift route, eat well and exercise.

        • tuzentswurth says:

          The very best advice indeed. An aging face looks NORMAL and fine. Nobody looks at Joan Rivers and thinks she’s 30, and Betty White looks great! She is 88, and she looks normal to me.

  81. Gingers poo says:

    Andy looked repulsed to have to be sitting next to that trash last night.

    Those “women” are pathetic. Thugs who never grew up and are still beating people up after school and thinking that makes them look cool.

    Barf.

    • kats2 says:

      Not repulsed enough for me. If I was him, I’d cancel their appearence on the show and just take viewer questions talking about how disgusting they are.

  82. boston02127 says:

    @ Adgirl-They have all the seasons on ebay on DVD.

    • jillz68 says:

      Re Knots Landing….All I could find are season 1 and 2. Did anyone else find the rest of the seasons of Knots? The 1st couple of seasons were not my favorite. I liked it best when Mac came into the picture.

  83. Wendy says:

    Just watched Andy’s show. Wow. Lynn is right, Theresa is a complete moron. This woman can’t even speak. “Aint I a nice person?” Cringe! “Like I have nothing better else to do with my time.” I wish Andy let her have it more about the foreclosure. This woman is despicable…a scamming, illiterate, bully. No class.
    Will someone start an “I hate Theresa Guidice” blog, please?

    • kats2 says:

      I would love that!!! Great idea, but it would have to be really bad or else she would just get off on it.

  84. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet: CHECK OUT HARPER BAZAAR AUG ISSUE. thank you for tweeting me, and thank you for caring. i am so flattered. xo kelly

    http://www.harpersbazaar.com/fashion/fashion-articles/kelly-bensimon-interview-0810?click=main_sr

  85. kats2 says:

    What the hell is up with people? At first I thought it was a joke.

    2 kicked out of Six Flags for attacking Porky Pig
    July 13, 2010 3:29 PM | No Comments
    Two people were ejected from the Six Flags Great America theme park in Gurnee after allegedly striking repeatedly a woman dressed as Porky Pig.

    The woman, who was employed by the park, was hit 10 to 15 times on the head, according to police.

    Witnesses reported seeing Taras Sikalchuk and Dmytro Petrychenko hit the woman on the back, sides and top of her head after posing for a picture with the Warner Brothers character, Gurnee police said.

    The woman was taken to Six Flags’ first aid station, and said she was experiencing a headache and sore neck and shoulders.

  86. kats2 says:

    Please go to People.com and vote against Teresa as much as possible

    http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/07/13/real-housewives-new-jersey-danielle-teresa-brawl/

  87. boston02127 says:

    Teresa’s blog is up on Bravo. 100% trash.

  88. WindyCityWondering says:

    Has anyone found out how Bravo approves posts to the blogs? I still have one waiting for approval on Andy’s blog that is almost two weeks old now!

    • Gingers poo says:

      whim

    • Jules says:

      They are suppose to be viewed by a moderator within 24 hours, but a little longer on the weekends. If you have been waiting two weeks, it is never going to get posted. If your post does not align with the swing they want on things at any given moment, they flat out will not post it.

    • rawhideaz says:

      Windy . . . sadly . . . your message is in the trash bin. There is no way they are approving posts that are two weeks old. We’ve all been there . . .

  89. Gingers poo says:

    What the hell is samples ranting about now? http://twitter.com/palmer2007

    Jill tweeted about being all excited to watch RHNJ last night, then hasn’t said another word about it. Is it possible she wants to distance herself from her defenders and buddies after seeing what scum they really are?

    Mickey Mouth, Sonja posted your chop on Facebook today!

    You need to do some more of Sonja and Bethenny. Bethenny as Lucy and Jason as Desi maybe? What else would be good for Sonja? Maybe a chop of her as Samantha from Sex and The City? Good eye, she does have that classic face, and she looks great as Mona Lisa! I still think Ramona would be cute as a dancing fairy, maybe on top of a turtle’s back? Whatever you come up with will probably be even better! Can’t wait to see more!

    • kats2 says:

      Great idea! Do Sonja as Samatha, Bethenny as Carrie, Alex as Miranda and Ramona as I guess Char but that doesn’t work maybe as a shoe. IDK but I like the Sonja and Bethenny as Samatha and Carrie.

    • When does he not rant? LOL! That one is a bit touched.

  90. kats2 says:

    Please be aware that the NJ trash is working with this PR loser

    http://twitter.com/JonathanCheban

    This is the same guy who Jill hired. The NJ trash must realize they need the PR help. So what this means is like his minions who took to the internet to help Jill the same minions are helping Caroline, Jac, Ashley and most likely Teresa. Not sure if T-Man can afford him, but who knows. So this might be why all the polls are going against Danielle.

    • rawhideaz says:

      Here Jill . . . I can give you some PR advise . . . for FREE even! Shut . . . your . . . f’ing . . . mouth.

      This should curb about 99.9% of your PR problems.

  91. Jules says:

    On a totally different note – Tonight is the final episode featuring Phil Harris on Deadliest Catch. I love that guy – what a sweetheart. I know I will be crying later. Boo Hoo, no more Phil.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Me too. Love that show and last week was soooooo hard to watch….gotta send Capt Phil off right so will watch and will cry tonight.

      • Jules says:

        Windy, I can’t hardly bear the thought of him being gone. Back in February when he died, they had all the reruns of Deadliest Catch, and Phil seemed to be featured alot. I told my twin sister I thought my BFF had died (it is a joke between us when we really liked an actor, or character), so I checked the internet, and sure enough. I’ve been sad about it ever since. What a disappointment his son Jake was to him in his final days.

        • Buffywood says:

          This is by far the best reality show. I have it recording right now so my husband and I can watch together after he puts our son down. It will be quite a tear jerker… I went on-line yesterday and finally ordered some Time Bandit T-shirts!

          • Jules says:

            Yeah, I agree, and it should serve as evidence to the folks at Bravo that you don’t need to have horrible people on like the ladies on the RHONJ, or the likes of Jill Zarin, and Kelly to get ratings. Phil was loved by everyone, and he was a good guy. Rest in Peace Phil, we love you.

  92. boston02127 says:

    Somebody tweeted this to Ashley:
    so surprised since ur always talking abt danielle, I guess that’s ur job

    Ashley’s reply: no i work at a clothing store.. plus my internships.. plus school.. i could see why you would maybe be confused though 😉

    All of a sudden Ashley is in school. She tweeted the other day that she “may” have an intership in NY in the fall. She works part time and tweets all-day-long.

  93. WindyCityWondering says:

    Popeaters: Danielle is suing Teresa and Ashley for assault and battery, defamation of character and going for punitive damages and is using the footage from last night’s show. It will be interesting to see how those two idiots try to talk their way out of this one!

    • Squirrels says:

      http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/13/danielle-staub-teresa-giudice/

      “The episode featured hot-tempered housewife Teresa Giudice starting an argument and Ashley Holmes, daughter of housewife Jacqueline Laurita, physically attacking the ladies’ sworn enemy, castmate Danielle Staub.”

      Even the peeps at pop know who started that fiasco.

      So much for that pre-nup they all had to sign. No way it states you can’t sue a cast mate if they assault you and then follow up with battery. Hopefully T-man can afford an atty. Maybe Caroline’s kid can step up to the plate, but it would have to be pro-bono.

      Start sweating girls…. and Andy, too.

      • kats2 says:

        Good for Danielle, maybe some of them to learn to keep their mouth shut.

        • kats2 says:

          “will learn”

          without the “will” it sounds like Luann’s French BF bad english.

      • quincyillinois says:

        Great find, S.

        Well, perhaps Danielle’s financial problems have been solved. I hope that Jacqueline and Teresa have insurance policies because they have done quite a bit on camera. Danielle said at the end of last season that she was going to take them down. Remember the rant outside the table flip restaurant. She laid the trap and the NJ women fell into it. I can see Jacqueline and Teresa suing Bravo because they felt they had to film with Danielle.

      • quincyillinois says:

        Did Teresa and Jacqueline know about the suit last night? You don’t discuss someone who is suing you on TV. You follow the instructions of your lawyer and lie low.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Mad props to you for finding this WCW. I say, Good! They truly deserve it. I am not a Danielle fan, I think she is a sad despicable person but no way did she deserve the bullying (take note, KKB) that she got!
      On the plus side, maybe these bimbos will realize how truly stupid they are….assaulting someone when there are cameras filming you everywhere! What a bunch of morons.

  94. realoldhousewife says:

    Can RHONJ fall any lower in the gutter? There’s not a one in the whole bunch the least bit likeable. The only way this show could get any worse is if Ashley gets knocked up this summer, marries and returns next season as the replacement housewife for Dina.

  95. Pantry Viewer says:

    Was at the fancy orthodontist’s office yesterday waiting for dd. I hear from the reception area, OH! People has Bethenny Frankel on the cover! Someone said, “Who is that?” The receptionist said from RHNY. She’s the cool one! Then talked about how they liked her and her new show.

    Sweet!

  96. quincyillinois says:

    I wonder what comes first: the chicken or the egg. Were the NJ wives this low class, vulger, and violent before they became Bravo stars or did it happen after they becames Bravo stars. How much of this is for the show?

    I’m not sure if Danielle was really upset that evening or if she planned to do all this. Is she acting when she cries for the camera in the interview session? Those interviews happen after the events, sometimes months after.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO the Jersey crew “acts” alot – Danielle is not alone in that category, with Teresa running a very close second. Both of the Kims are trying so hard it is painful to watch.

  97. ImaJillHater2 says:

    ** Reposting/ brought over from previous blog **

    RHONJ needs to be renamed, “Real TRASHWIVES of NJ”!!!!

    Also, “Watch What Happens Live” should be renamed as well if its going to continue to be “The-Andy-Cohen-Is-Jewish-And-Gay-And-Has-A-Hard-On-THIS-Week-For-(fill-in-the-blank)” show.

    No offense to Andy, Jews, Gays or hard-ons intended. But, is it WATCH WHAT HAPPENS LIVE or the “Validate Andy Show”? For real?!?! Its kinda’ BS! I don’t care to know his religion, certainly don’t want to know about his sexual preferences, and most definitely AM NOT INTERESTED IN WHO HE WANTS TO “SCHTUP” THIS WEEK! (I’m only interested in who I’M going to schtup this week!).

    ANDY, ENOUGH WITH THE BS ALREADY!!!!! Either create a new show to meet your emotional needs/ validate yourself or rename WWHL. But stop with the “bait and switch”!!!

    (Apologies to those more delicate than myself if this post offends. I was raised in NY & we just tell it like is… Love y’all!))

    • jezzibel says:

      I don’t like Andy Cohen as a host…I think his moderation skills are substandard, he does not hold any of the wives accountable for their crap behavior, and he might want to ease up on the hairspray a little..helmet head looks good on no-one.

    • MBDEA says:

      LMAO!! “No offense to….hard-ons.”

      ITA with you. Andy has turned into a little bitch and I am so disgusted by him and his asinine RHW franchise. DAMN IT…stupid summer reruns, otherwise I would utterly tune away from him and Bravo all together. Admittedly (and pathetically) I may find myself tuning into the latest RHW franchise (D.C.).

      Ok, now I hate Andy more for that.

      Ugh, I hate Jill, I hate Kelly, I hate Andy, I hate the steaming pile of NJ housewives (Teresa, Jacquiline, Caroline, the haggy Kims and Assley) even more for making me feel the slightest tinge of sympathy for gradma wrinkles, Danielle. YUCK!

    • Maxine49 says:

      ImaJillHater2, you go girl! Tell it like it is. I’m a NYer, too. Born and raised but live out of state now…but once a NYer always a NYer.

  98. dsc60 says:

    if that’s the case, then bethany should be able to sue kelly also. talk about being assaulted…

    • Maxine49 says:

      I never saw an episode where Kelly assaulted Bethenny. I thought an assault might be imminent on Scary island, but the camera never showed anything. What did I miss?

      • Squirrels says:

        An assault is the legal term for using words or actions in a threatening manner, whereby the victim is in fear of bodily harm. Battery is the actual act of striking someone.

        • Squirrels says:

          Beth admits she was frightened for her physical safety. She also said others were as well. They all locked themselves into their rooms and Alex nearly stayed in Beth’s room.

          • quincyillinois says:

            Bethenny should never go back to NYC Housewives. There is danger in dealing with people like Danielle and Kelly.

            • Squirrels says:

              Bravo sure as hell wouldn’t protect her. I imagine she and Jason saw at least clips of this show, whereby Jason says, “There is no way in hell you are going back to this bullshit. Andy just might love watching Kelly punch you on screen, since he never got a chance to film her beating on her boyfriend.”

              That’s what I’d tell her anyway.

              • quincyillinois says:

                I thought the interview of Danielle claiming that they wanted to kill her was off the wall, but thinking back Danielle has been so angry at the other women from the very beginning of this show. This is really too much. Dina was smart to leave.

          • Maxine49 says:

            Squirrel, I am an attorney, I know what assault is…I never saw Kelly attempt to assault anyone on Scary Island. Make no mistake, I do not like Kelly, I think she is seriously ill, but assault needs to have an overt act….words alone do NOT amount to an assault. The words must be coupled with some overt act that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. For example, someone says “I’m going to kill you” and then picks up a knife and and turns toward the person…even a raised fist could suffice if it raised a “reasonable” apprehension. We never saw that on camera on Scary Island. We saw crazy talk by Kelly, we saw crazy Kelly say she was afraid Bethenny was going to kill her…but we never saw Kelly threaten physical harm or make any overt acts toward carrying out any acts of physical harm. Now maybe they happened off camera…and I am certain I would be afraid that Kelly in her psychotic state could cause harm…but she never “assaulted’ anyone as far as the viewing audience could see.

  99. Squirrels says:

    Repost with addition –

    Guess Andy has forgotten about the murder of Scott Amedure who was a guest on Jenny Jones’ talk show.

    “On March 6, 1995, Jenny Jones taped an episode called “Same Sex Secret Crushes” on which Scott Amedure, a gay man, confessed to his best friend Jonathan Schmitz, that he had a crush on him. Schmitz’s response was mostly humorous as he laughed about that revelation in front of the audience. However, three days after the taping, Schmitz, allegedly upset over that incident, killed Amedure. After the murder made headlines, the producers decided not to air the show. However, the episode did air on Court TV when the network was covering the trial. Clips of the episode were also featured in the HBO documentary, Talked to Death.

    Schmitz’s history of mental illness and alcohol/drug abuse came to light during the trial in which Schmitz was later convicted of second degree murder. He is currently serving a 25-50 year prison term.[1]”

    Jones and the producers were later sued by Amedure’s family for neglecting to find out Schmitz’s history of mental illness and substance abuse. Jones testified under oath that the producers told Schmitz that his admirer could be a man, but Schmitz thought that the admirer was a woman. Jones also admitted that the show didn’t want Schmitz to know the outcome of his secret crush. Amedure’s family won the ruling and the show was ordered to pay $25 million, but that decision was later overturned by the Michigan appellate court because the producers were not responsible for what happened to the guests after their appearance on the show.[2][3]
    Another show involving secret crushes resulted in one station in Chico, California, CBS affiliate KHSL-TV, dropping her show altogether after learning the episode involved transgendered people. After those two incidents, the producers decided to no longer do shows featuring crushes involving members of the same-sex or transsexuals.

    for court documents, go to:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jenny_Jones_Show

    • Squirrels says:

      “Amedure’s family won the ruling and the show was ordered to pay $25 million, but that decision was later overturned by the Michigan appellate court because the producers were not responsible for what happened to the guests after their appearance on the show.[2][3]”

      The difference for Bravo would be they not only sanctioned behavior of mentally unstable people, but encouraged it. If Zarin’s allegation is correct, Bravo is a conspirator, pushing abusive behavior for ratings, giving patronage to those who frighten other cast mates without concern to the health of any. In my opinion anything that spurs on violence, including the country club fight falls directly on the head of Andy Cohen and the rest of the Slimeballs. Put me on that jury.

      • quincyillinois says:

        I remember that now.

        I was wondering about the cameras being able to pick up Danielle as she ran through the country club. How did Bravo set that up? There were cameras moving with her, but then there was a switch to the parking lot with another camera. Did Bravo suspect something was going to happen at this event and plan for the filming? Danielle might hit the jackpot with Bravo.

        Danielle could sue if she stays on the show…or if she is dropped… I’m sure her lawyers will be ready in any instance.

      • kats2 says:

        I remember that. Unless the whole NJ cast is in on it and the joke is on us. I just don’t see this ending well.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        It will be interesting to see how Danielle’s lawsuits play out – if Bravo is called in for either side. This may be what will change the tide and either improve (or rerenovate in Teresa speak) or sink the housewives franchise.

        • quincyillinois says:

          Does anyone think that Danielle is a logical person?
          Danielle needs money desperately. She will do anything for money. Look at her history. Bravo should have researched the people that they were hiring for this show.

          • dumberries says:

            I agree Quincy, more research should be done on cast members. Sadly, I suspect that reality executives do very minimal in terms of backgrounds checks because they actually want unstable people that will cause sensational scenes, thus spiking the ratings. If something terrible happens, they can just plead ignorant. Squirrels’ example of the Jenny Jones incident is a good one. Another is that guy Ryan Jenkins. Shortly after the show “Megan wants a Millionaire” ended, the guy killed and dismembered his girlfriend before eventually killing himself. The basic $49 background check I run for on applicants from my business would have immediately shown that he wasn’t a millionaire, had stalking and domestic assault charges… He was on a dating show for goodness sake – it should matter! It’s getting dicey in reality land.

  100. boston02127 says:

    Kim G’s tweet: Here’s her tweet and opinion of the Fight Club Episode.

    On way to Italy. I will be tweeting from there with the usual fun and drama. Stay tuned. enjoy tomorrow night. The episode is awesome!!!!

    Apparently she thinks the fight episode was awesome. Not only does she dress like and idiot, she is an idiot.

  101. Char212 says:

    Teresa is all happy on twitter saying NJ has the best fans ever. Supposedly 3.3 million people viewed the show last night. Too bad she’s too dumb to realize that it wasn’t because people like them. I can’t believe she’s proud of that. That’s it, I’m done watching them. I’m not going to give them any credibility by watching that mess. Too be proud and happy that that many people watched them act like fools tells me they don’t have a decent brain cell between them.

    • Squirrels says:

      Not only would I not follow that money grubbing skank on Twitter, I wouldn’t’ follow her two steps on a clear day.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Char – I’m right there with you lady! I just reclaimed Monday nights and I will do something to celebrate love and light or maybe just do laundry…..

    • kats2 says:

      Yes but Teresa is writing a new book and has major debt – she needs to make money so she could careless as long as she is getting attention.

      • Squirrels says:

        Still, look at the Zarin backlash. If T thinks she’s above that, it’s because Kelly told her it would be fine and handed her a jelly berry.

        • Char212 says:

          Personally, it would make me smile a little if she got a taste of Jill’s backlash. I think I’d rather enjoy that.

  102. Gina says:

    I couldn’t get to my shower fast enough after watching the-ever-so pathetic Jersey
    Housewives & WWHL. Teresa is absolute scum. Her re-enactment of the evening with Joe made me absolutely sick. These two losers are criminals pure and simple.
    11 million dollars in debt in this economy is unbelievible! And yet, if you go to Teresa’s
    Bravo website her fans are just RAVING about how adorable she is and how much they LOVE, LOVE, LOVE her. If I can quote the maitre in Ferris Buller’s Day Off,
    “I weep for the future!”

    • Char212 says:

      I hear ya Gina. I felt dirty after watching that trash too. Her fans are all over FB too telling her how much they adore her. Worst of all they are telling her of all things, (are you ready for this) a CLASSY lady. I have more class in my little toe then all of them put together.

      The future sure doesn’t look good with people who are fans of that!

  103. kats2 says:

    Does anyone know how this whole Albie Law School thing ends? They are done filming I assume and it’s been long enough now to know if he won his legal case to get the letter to get in another school. Can’t find anything on the net about it.

    I wonder if he gives it up for a shot at Jersey fame. . . .

    • Char212 says:

      I haven’t heard anything Kats. Funny more hasn’t come out about that though.

    • Squirrels says:

      If Albie is looking for fame on HW’s with a law degree as a side bet, I sure as hell would never hire him. I want an atty who wants to practice law as plan A.

    • Buffywood says:

      I know I a cold hearted bitch sometimes (I guess I let my Jill Side show), but I don’t feel the least bit bad about the school not asking him to return. Earlier someone posted info about the American Disabilities Act and everything, but come on… there has got to be minimum standards. There is definitely a time and a place to make “reasonable accommodations” for people but there has to be a limit. Call me crazy but I don’t want my daughter’s school bus driver to be blind, my OBGYN to have Parkinson’s, my son’s teacher to have Alzheimer’s, my dentist to have schizophrenia, or my accountant to be severely dyslexic. Sometime life sucks and just because you want to be something doesn’t mean you can. Sorry… for my little rant.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Speaking of dyslexia, just because you should, doesn’t mean you can…..works here.
        Your post was hysterical. My son went to Kindergarten and his teacher actually did have Alzheimer’s. That was the last year she taught, she was about 60 and I later heard that she would take the class to their art or music or whatever special class they had and then forget where they were. Thank goodness, nothing bad happened to any child and the other teachers watched out for things, but really admin should not have had her there.

  104. kats2 says:

    Just rewatched the fight scene and Danielle has a great case against them. Ashley is on film saying she pulled her hair because Danielle is a bitch nothing about protecting mommy (I guess that came later). Kim G said there were clumps (Sp?) of hair in the car. It’s all on tape. I hope she hires a great attorney.

    • Char212 says:

      I do and I don’t hope she gets a great attorny. For one, I’d hate to see her feel vindicated for the horrible behavior she’s shown. She’s just as much to blame as the rest of them. On the other hand I’d like to see T and Jac be taken down a peg or two. But Danielle needs to be taken down too so there’s really no winner here.

  105. quincyillinois says:

    I want a job as a fortune teller for Bravo. I predict that we will see a slander lawsuit filed by Teresa against Danielle. She mentioned it last night when she said that the grocery store attendants said they were told that Teresa knocked out the windows of Danielle’s vehicle. I suspect there are other tibits that Danielle has uttered along the way.

    If I can’t be a fortune teller, can I just call up one of the stars and try to calm them.

    • Maxine49 says:

      LOL—slander suit by Teresa against Danille….too funny. The thing about slander or defamation is that you have “to place someone in a false light in the public eye”…in other words….they have to have a good reputation that the false remarks sully or destroy. LOL….someone please try to make the case with a straight face that Teresa Guidice has a good reputation….honestly, ROFLMAO!

  106. quincyillinois says:

    Squirrels…there are more reports of Danielle’s suit on google now. When something happens it takes some time before they show up on google so that information seems to have come out today. Again, thanks for posting…

  107. WindyCityWondering says:

    In case anyone forgot or is wondering……I still hate Jill Zarin!
    And I think she should be transfered to RHONJ cause she can teach those thugettes how to be classy and not just trashy.

  108. I just spent 3 hours recapping NJ, and it gives me a huge appreciation for those of you who do it all the time.
    I don’t know how to set up just one blog per page like Lynn’s. Anyone willing to help??

  109. Denise says:

    You know, I have to wonder what would have happened at the “fashion show” *eyeroll* if Danielle’s goon squad had been there. Would Danny and Ashley been rolling around on the ground, each yanking on the others hair? And who would win that skirmish? Danny’s an ex-con, but Ashley is one mean little bitch. Danny is (allegedly!) a member of the mob, but Ashley is taller. Jeez, what I wouldn’t give to have seen that bitch fight go down…

  110. Olivia says:

    I have thought for awhile that something is wrong with the “reality” on display with most of these shows. The NY and NY franchises in particular.

    The cameras seem to be available to film any “outbreak” or supposed ” spontaneous” outbursts that happen and though the cast members are most likely “performing” without a script, they are being framed around a topic in order to keep the ball rolling.

    Example: Alex and Simon with the boys having “breakfast” the morning after attending the Met and perusing the papers looking for mention. According to the book, the episode was filmed at 4 in the afternoon.

    Example: Bethenny meeting Lu Ann for drinks on Long Island where Bethenny is supposed to have driven for almost 2 hours from the city with Jason driving the car with the logo. How did that manage to get set up in the first place? Think of the logistics involved and question to the reason for this meeting in the first place. It solved nothing.

    Example: Ramona waiting for Mario in a thighhigh cut nightgown to seduce him into agreeing to a “renewal ceremony”. Are we to believe that the camera was unknown to these two as they sat on the couch and made goo goo eyes at one another and how did they convince Ramona into wearing that negligee?

    This stuff is all set up and some of what Kelly is hinting at does have an element of truth contained somewhere in her incoherency. No dialogue may be scripted but the set ups to where they appear, i.e. restaurants and other public places, must be cleared in advance for indemnity purposes so much of this so called “spontaneity” is forced. An outline is offered and the cast improvises. Simple as that. All the better if they say things that are fueled by anger or jealousy but there is nothing “real” about what is shoveled out to us by way of “reality t.v.”.

    It’s what makes the NJ franchise so outrageously bad. These women have nothing to offer beyond violent language and obscene behavior and they act accordingly.

    Take a look at most scenes from either of these shows and question how they came about to be filmed in the first place. Did Jacqueline, as an example, call Bravo to alert them to the fact that Kim G. was invited over for coffee to discuss Danielle? Don’t think so. What we are watching is manufactured drama that has nothing whatsover to do with “reality”.

  111. floridagirl88 says:

    Great Post! I laughed at your recap and the funny way you say things. Please do it again if you can.

  112. ok. I know this is random, but can anyone tell me what the story is with theresa’s hair?
    Is it a wig? extensions? what’s with her forehead?

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