I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives Fight Back NJ July 20, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Real Housewives Fight Back    NJ                    July 19, 2010

Oh Teresa, I can certainly see now why you were so critical of Bethenny when she lost her baby weight so quickly and why you’re so jealous of her.  Obviously there will be some baby weight on Teresa only weeks after giving birth but that’s why you don’t wear skin tight clothing so soon after giving birth.  Yikes!

I was actually glad to see Teresa’s kids taking Karate lessons, Karate is an excellent discipline for kids and teaches them respect and good values.  Parents have to support those learning’s, however otherwise it isn’t going to take. 

Danielle is actually doing the smart thing learning to defend herself and teaching her daughters the same.  I’m not sure it was such a great idea to name her right and left punches after Teresa and Jacqueline while her children were there, but she does tell her girls everything and so far they seem to still be well-adjusted, smart, great kids so we’ll have to refer to Danielle’s judgment on that one.

I’m not sure why Jacqueline went over to Kim’s house to rehash the events at the fashion show, since Kim was clearly with Danielle that night.  The more I watch this show, the more I know for a fact that scenarios are set up and even people are told where to go and when!  If you ever doubted it, this show should wipe out all questions. 

Teresa stopped by Posche’ shop in her ugly fur wrap and leopard print furry shirt to apologize to Kim D for fighting at her Fashion Show.  Surprise!  Kim G shows up!  This isn’t a set up at all folks!  Teresa’s interviews during this were absolutely disgusting, they’re the kind that makes you want to slap her!  First to say, “Alls I want to say….”  Teresa, “Alls” is not a word!  As much as I cannot stand Kim G, for Teresa to call her “elderly” was rude!  Not that I expect anything better from Teresa than improper English and being a bitch to people!  Her interviews are most definitely scripted! 

This was one of those scenes in Caroline’s kitchen that I do enjoy seeing, a family enjoying being together and laughing at breakfast.  Why can’t these shows give us more of that?  I’m afraid I did not feel bad for Albie as the others went off to get ready for work, there is no reason why he couldn’t pass the time while waiting for his fate by putting in a hard day’s work at his father’s business.  Where does the money for law school come from?  Maybe the time would have been better spent studying at whatever area he failed in his previous year at law school? 

Teresa and Joe at the Pizza Parlor, what is with Teresa’s ugly outfits this episode, with the sweater sleeves hanging down to her knees and the sweater coming up revealing a fat ass, that outfit just did not work for her!  OMG yuck!  Joe and his freaky sweater looked better than his ugly wife!  The apartment tour showed Teresa’s interview included a little “wink” when she said she would never live in that apartment.  Chances are, someday she will be changing diapers right there in that spacious apartment! 

Albie gets his letter from the law school that he wanted.  Whether he got it because he threatened the school with a lawsuit or he actually deserved to have the 2-year required waiting period waived, I suppose it doesn’t matter, as I said before, we already know it all turns out fine because Caroline already told us it would months ago. 

The big construction company owner turned Pizza place owner, Juicy Joe teaches the little rug-rats how to make a New York style pizza with soggy dough that sags when you pick it up…yuck!  If he wants to have a successful pizza place, he should learn to make Chicago style pizza and he would have never had to file bankruptcy! 

Caroline hosts the discussion about what will happen to Ashley when Danielle presses charges against her for pulling her hair.  Ashley just thinks the whole thing is funny and spends the entire conversation with a shit-eating grin on her stupid face and giggling all the way home.  The only redeeming factor should be that Caroline would give her a piece of her mind, but it never comes….Caroline actually defends Ashley!  Anyone who believes that Ashley was “defending” her mother cannot see clearly and since Caroline wasn’t there, I will give her the benefit of the doubt but I lost a little bit of respect for Caroline during this episode. 

Now it is Kim’s turn to visit Jacqueline, yet Jac makes a pathetic attempt to hesitate letting Kim into her home.  This after the producers set up cameras to film the meeting between the two women, Jacqueline knew Kim was coming because she hit the hair and make up chair in her upstairs bathroom before opening the door and tell Kim that it is “uncomfortable”.   This entire conversation is the biggest waste of time in the history of Housewives.  Is this Jacqueline fighting for a friendship with Kim?  She all but told Kim to pick a team, I wonder if Luann gave Jacqueline instructions on how to team up the housewives like that. 

So this episode really was full of 60 minutes of absolutely nothing!  Teresa’s really, really bad attire and scripted interviews, Jacqueline’s pathetic attempts to justify her daughter’s really, really bad behavior, Danielle’s sad attempt to glorify a hair pull into something rivaling a Rodney King beating and the two Kim’s acting like absolute fools in their obvious attempts at being the next New Jersey housewife to replace Dina.   

I have found no redeeming qualities about this show this week….I continue to look for a way out of this mess!  I sincerely look forward to the civility of the D.C. Housewives starting next month!

Until Next Time…..

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665 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives Fight Back NJ July 20, 2010

  1. MickeyMouth says:

    I am bringing this pic over from the other blog since it is all about the RHONJ – The Usual Suspects: http://wp.me/pWaBw-6l

  2. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Lynn for this blog, so refreshing after feeling 60 minutes of air time were wasted. No.

    When Teresa and Joe were visiting that apt. I had a sad feeling of how ironic this picture would be for Joe watching it aired moths later. By the time it was filmed none of them were fully aware of how things would turn months later… Magazines reporting their bankcruptcy, demands, how irresposible they have been.

    While Teresa does not show an ounce of humility… to me, Joe looks ashamed or he is just a quiet person… perhaps!

    • I really feel like Joe was trying to gently tell her that this would be her life someday. Someday soon.
      Too bad he/they weren’t as considerate of the working people they stiffed out of part of their livelihood.

  3. moriasheehan says:

    great blog Lynn. was it just my old ears or did joe say something about them taking a number of the apartments to make a suite for them.

    • boston02127 says:

      @moriasheehan–yes he did say that.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        At the time it looked like their future home (Joe knows what is going down and either he doesn’t share it with Teresa or she is in denial) but this asset has likely been seized (unless they are not owners but limited partners).

        • jennifer says:

          They didn’t claim the apartments or pizza parlor in their filings so actually now they are in BIG trouble for that, even their bankruptcy attorney has called them out on it….

  4. Squirrels says:

    Tonight’s episode left me cold. As did WTFWIT…(What The Fok Was I Thinking) post NJ show.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      WWHL was really a bore….I realize that RHONJ is on air but guests other than those wives would be at least interesting….Jeff was going for humor and Daniel was already practicing her legally can’t say statements that will dominate the reunion.

    • twoile says:

      Thank you 4 the translation Squirrels…got the wtf but not the rest.

  5. A great blog Lynn, but it’s so late here now it took me forever to read it(my eyes are blurry) and I’ll have to reread it in the morning anyway! one thing, was that the fugliest sweater you have ever seen on a grown man in your life?? (Joes in their new apartment)
    Really?! She let him wear that? OMG
    you’re the best, Lynn. so glad i found you folks , i love reading your insights! till tmro

  6. Squirrels says:

    Taking a break from the insanity. Perhaps Quincy will miss me for a few days. Naaa.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Of course, I will miss you.

      Everytime, I look at a squirrel and try to avoid hitting them with my car on the road, I will think of you.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Ha. another Danielle lie. Danielle was having tea with the Boys from the Hood and discussing the boxing lesson. She said that she didnt’ like to sweat. She runs every day and takes her girls with her. She has her own gym and we saw her working out in the first introduction to NJ. I’d say Danielle is an exercise fanatic.

      I watched her daughters at that boxing lesson. Neither girl looked comfortable. How can that father let this go on? At least, he should try for half custody and get them out of that mess for 50 % of their lives.

  7. Adgirl says:

    I hope you pay yourself time & a half for suffering through NJ so we won’t have to.

    I miss NY. (sigh.)

  8. sugarmagnolia10 says:

    I’m not sure that I really understand how a pizzeria can make them money….the margin is so slim….
    Oh, right! It’s just a front so they can continue to defraud the IRS…
    tanti bacci

    • Maxine49 says:

      A pizzeria is a cash business—that means Joe the Stumpy Crook doesn’t have to ring up every sale—“one for me, one for the IRS….” However, his plans have no been thwarted as the bankruptcy trustee now knows about the pizzeria that they failed to disclose…and they are in “deep dish” trouble! They may be denied the protection of the bankruptcy court–and if no bankruptcy is declared, then they will lose everything, the debts will not be discharged…and they will be paying off that $11M for the rest of theirs lives—as well they should! There may be criminal charges coming, as well. Gosh, I’m positively gleeful about that! With the world watching (and this show is shown around the world) the message needs to be sent that the Giudices will not get away with it!

    • twoile says:

      All cash business….run correctly immune to recession….low cost 4 families to “Eat out/take out”……often a front 4 other activities…..

  9. Realife says:

    I wonder if they ever thought to have Ashley tested when she was in school? She really seems to be rather slow, there’s just something off about her. Did anyone see Wendy Williams show today? Two young ladies in the audience got up and stated that one of their friends was on the RHONJ and since being on the show she had gotten a big head and pretty much dropped them; they wanted to know what they could do to bring her back down to earth. They never said her name and Wendy never asked who they were referring to but I’m sure we don’t need three guesses who the big head friend is. I believe that stuff Danielle said about Ashley coming to her for advice and how she felt out of place in the family but as long as they keep making excuses for her I’m sure she’ll eventually end up on the pole.

    • Maxine49 says:

      LOL—the “big head” was certainly a clue—literally and figuratively! Richard Lawson calls her “Puffin Stuff” in his column on Gawker…and sometimes he simply calls her “Hat.” It’s obvious the girl has a very low IQ…she doesn’t seem to be able to handle the simplest concepts….it’s not just bratty teen behavior. She’s a big, dopey, doughy girl. I think the boyfriend is fed up with her stupidity, too.

      It really was quite a boring show. And the WWHL was a disaster, too. Danielle is a boring guest, period. And I was surprised at Jeff—I had high expectations for the show—but it got off to the wrong foot with Andy and Jeff insulting one another and it never recovered. The best WWHLs were the ones were there were celebrity guests…not the RH cast members. You blew it, Andy!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ashley’s disability is laziness and parents who didn’t make her apply herself while she was in school! No consequences for bad grades, etc – no value on education. If they pulled the money plug and enforced house rules it would be a different set of issue. Tough love isn’t giving someone a car or paying for them to live somewhere else! I found it telling that she looked to Danielle for attention (to get her to school on time – sounds like she was likely in the same school as Danielle’s kids at the time) since she wasn’t getting it at home.

    • twoile says:

      according to twop the rest of the story is that A tex’d them a bird in essence.

  10. boston02127 says:

    I miss hating Jill.

  11. Capiche says:

    Yes. RHONJ is deplorable. But I will be turning in next week to see if Danielle’s ex-husband and father of her children appear! I think that was him! It is what it is. I’m already invested in this series.

    As to last night’s episode, I agree that Caroline lost my respect but to be fair, she never really had it. I do like the scenes with her family though. And I wish Ashley could see that even though Caroline doesn’t like Danielle, her kids don’t make it a part of their daily lives like it seems Ashley does. THAT GIRL IS COMPLETELY OBSESSED WITH DANIELLE. And it’s becoming pathetic and scary. The scene where she sat with her boyfriend talking about how Danielle already has new extensions in and how expensive it was. Like, WTF?? How is that any of your business, dear deluded teenage girl? And why do you care who Danielle sleeps with? And why would you assume she’s sleeping with someone to put extensions in? Danielle lives in a house that cost over $1 million. No matter what she says, she is not poor or hurting for money. And if she was married to a wealthy guy, I’m pretty certain she has a sizable sum “stashed” away! She’s no idiot. This scene also showed that her hatred of Danielle comes from listening to her mom and the other women continually trash Danielle. And by doing so, she’s proving Danielle right when it comes to Jacqueline’s parenting skills. Her daughter is out of control and she doesn’t seem to care. Weighing what Danielle did 25 years ago to what Ashley did is irrelevant. Stop focusing so much on Danielle and try to guide Ashley. That’s your job.

    There’s nothing more I can say about Teresa the pig. Is it proven that they are actually auctioning her items? I might drive over to NJ for that! LOL! Kim G is right that Teresa has violent impulses and need to control herself. Two seasons and two times she’s going off like an animal. Once is a mistake, but twice is habit! For all the concern that people have over the kids of the show, has anyone expressed any for Teresa’s girls? Teresa has proven to be violent!

    One more thing I noticed over the season, there are a lot of scenes with Danielle doing stuff with her fam. And Teresa as well. But the few scenes with Jacqueline and the Manzos all revolve around them talking about Danielle. Even the poker night and dinner scenes. They have really made Danielle the “Erica Kane” of RHONJ. There’s just no show without her!

    • MAMAZ says:

      I agree with you about Caroline , Ashley and Theresa. But I think Danielle is probably deeply in debt herself. Her home needed a lot of work. She spends a lot of money without a job and was constantly whining in season one that the ex was aways late with the child support.

      • Capiche says:

        Not sure about the debt and I think she didn’t wanted to repair the home without her ex-husband’s financial help since he owned half of it. I also believe she got/is getting 10K a month in child support and alimony. From what I’ve read, her ex is loaded so you know she got a nice settlement and probably saved up quite a bit when she had access to his funds.

      • emt2 says:

        Danielle has always admitted to being in debt. She said she owed over $25,000 to Neiman Marcus, alone.

        I actually don’t see her spending a lot of money. I think she gets a lot of freebies just like the rest of the women do.

        And I would whine a lot if my ex were late with child support… But, I would also work but that doesn’t make her complaint any less valid.

        And she obviously got money from her book and various other things that have come about from being on the show.

        I respected that she was upfront about her money issues unlike Teresa who made it a point to always say that at least she has money unlike Danielle when in fact, T seems to have more debt than Danielle does.

    • Maxine49 says:

      About the auction of the Giudice assets. Here’s the deal. The auction would have been under the auspices of the bankruptcy trustee in order to get cash to pay off the creditors. However, since the trustee has now filed a motion to have the bankruptcy petition dismissed for fraud, if the motion to dismiss is granted, then there will be no bankruptcy and therefore no auction, as the trustee will no longer have any control over the assets. So we have to see what happens with the motion that was recently filed by the trustee. I haven’t read that the judge took any action on it.

      If the Giudices are thrown out of bankruptcy court, they will not have their debts discharged and each and every creditor that has a judgment against them can execute the judgment by hiring a sheriff to seize assets to pay off the judgment. First come, first served. So it is basically a rush to get a judgment against them and grab the goods. There are already judgments granted and there will not be enough assets to pay off everyone, so they will never get out from underneath that debt. They will be paying for the rest of their lives, with interest, as well they should!

      It’s going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO, they filed Chap 7 Bankruptsy to stall the foreclosure and the lawsuits associated with the mansion’s construction. Because the trustee filed a suit that they lied under oath, it is clear that bankruptsy will not be granted (can’t find where T&J appealed any ruling) and all legal suits/foreclosure are moving forward. The auction is only part of what they will have to do to satisfy their outstanding debt – by filing bankruptsy all assets go into the pot and more are being identified since the initial filing – which make them fair game too! Because their “income” comes from both identified and unidentified sources and is higher than what they stated they will land on their feet once the debt as stated is discharged. They tried to work the system and they failed – and worse they are now caught…..

        • Maxine49 says:

          The filing of bankruptcy stays all action against the Giudices. And, yes, they filed to stop enforcement of the judgment granted to his business partner and the pending foreclosures. So everything is stayed unless and until the judge rules in favor of the trustee’s pending motion and throws out the bankruptcy. Nothing can move forward until then. If the trustee’s motion is denied, then the bankruptcy will go forward as well as the auction. However, there will not be any auction if their bankruptcy is thrown out, as the trustee will no longer have any control over their assets. It will be a free for all for their creditors. They will have to pay off their debt to any creditor that gets a judgment against them and enforces it. For example, say I am a creditor of the Giudices in the amount of $50,000. If I get a judgment against them and hire a sheriff, I can seize some or all of their property to satisfy the debt. So what does that mean? Well, it means that I can seize property and sell it…if I sell it for less than the $50,000, they still owe me the balance of the $50,000 that remains. When I do seize their property, I must sell it fairly. For example, I can’t take one of those new $7500 couches and sell it for $100. That would be unreasonable. But under the circumstances, $1500 might be reasonable, so in that case, I would have seized an asset they paid $7500 for but only have reduced their debt to me by $1500. So you can see how the seizing of and liquidation of their assets won’t satisfy all the creditors…and he who gets there first, gets the most. Due to their blatant attempt to defraud the bankruptcy court, they are now faced with a lifetime of paying back the $11M plus interest. If I were them, I’d be on a slow boat back to Italy…uh, make that a fast boat!

      • twoile says:

        Sounds fair!

      • Flippy says:

        I haven’t looked at the court documents but its likely the Trustee has filed a 523 or 727 action against the Giudices to deny them a discharge in bankruptcy. However, he is still likely to proceed to liquidate any assets that are available in order to make a distribution to the creditors. That is the Trustee’s function in a Chap. 7 bankruptcy. Once a Chap. 7 bankruptcy is filed, the Trustee “stands in the shoes” of the debtor and its unlikely that he/she would have the case dismissed and simply turn any available assets back over to the debtors/Giudices.

        • Maxine49 says:

          But Flippy, it is inconsistent to have the bankruptcy dismissed and still have a distribution to creditors…you can’t have it both ways. The trustee will lose his control over the assets if the bankruptcy is dismissed. So everything will be on hold until the judge rules on the motion to dismiss filed by the trustee.

          • Flippy says:

            The motion filed by the Trustee is not to dismiss the case, its to deny the debtors a discharge.

  12. boston02127 says:

    @ Capiche–I have no respect for Caroline. She wants to come off as the voice of reason yet she scolds and defends Ashley at the same time. I think Caroline is full of hot air and I’m sick of listening to her crooked opinions.

    • emt2 says:

      Agreed. Have you ever seen Caroline’s kids get into it with Danielle? Nope. Caroline obviously doesn’t respect Ashley because if she did, Caroline would expect Ashley to behave as her children do…aka, stay out of grown folk’s business.

      Caroline doesn’t seem to care about Ashley. Ashley has always been the trouble kid. Last year, Caroline was foaming at the mouth whenever she criticized Ashley and Jacqueline’s non-existent parenting skills.

      Caroline would never be in the same situation with her kids. Do you see Caroline hanging out with the “elderly” Kim who was with Danielle and Danny when Danny called Chris a f*ggot?

      Jacqueline knows that Kim is starting trouble by instigating things, yet she still hangs out with her. She knows that Kim was the one who told Danielle to call the police on Ashley in the first place and have her arrested, yet Jacqueline still hangs out with Kim. Does that make sense?

      Caroline is laughing at Ashley and thanking God that Ashley is not her child.

      • Capiche says:

        I also noticed that in one of her THs, Caroline said and I paraphrase “Ashley calls me ‘Aunt Caroline.'” I thought that was interesting…as if to say, she calls me Auntie but I’m not really.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I actually saw that as Caroline trying to say that she didn’t know Ashley until she was a child and already down the road she is on now. I suspect she thinks if she and Chris was involved with her from day one then Ashely would have turned out different. Perhaps I read too much into it, but I am certain that Caroline doesn’t put much stock into Jac’s parenting skills.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Excellent point – Caroline’s kids are not engaging or antagonizing Danielle – good parenting and likely severe consequences if they did.
        I am wondering if Albie junior already burned his Brownstone bridge with his dad….I agree he should have gone to work with the others because his dad did state it was a very busy day and the help would have been appreciated. Caroline didn’t encourage Albie junior to go so I think that subject was off limits due to prior experiences.

        • BamaBelle says:

          Caroline said The Brownstone wasn’t Albie’s thing, whatever that means? She also said, if he worked there he would feel like he’s running to Daddy… that’s the way I took it, and it’s BULLSHIT! Albie’s no better than the rest. It wouldn’t hurt him to work at The Brownstone to make extra money even if he goes to Law School in New Jersey!

          He’s 23 years old… he should have at least a part-time job somewhere. Does he depend on Caroline and Albert for gas money, car insurance, dating money, whatever his EXTRA needs are?

          I re-watched the episode where Albie told Caroline he was dismissed from Law School. He explained his “disability” to his mother which I found very odd. Wouldn’t Caroline already know what his disability is? After Albie said he had a “learning disability”, he then explained to Caroline that he had to read everything several times… Caroline said on her camera interview that it was “like” ADD, but she didn’t say Albie had ADD!

          Hiring a lawyer to get into another Law School instead of waiting 2 years like everybody else has to because he failed is WRONG if he doesn’t have a TRUE disability…

          • Bosandi says:

            Albie is the golden child of the family. He can do no wrong. Thinking back on season one when Caroline & Albert were talking to their daughter about beauty school, Albie was all in the conversation and was making fun of her intelligence. Heck they all were. It all seemed like a big joke when Chris (is that his name, and why am I remembering this?) wanted to open a strip club. It’s like Albie is the white collar child and the other two are blue collar workers.

  13. viki55 says:

    The sceen with Teresa brushing her daughters hair so violently reminded me of my mom doing that to me when I was a child. I guess it just happens when you aren’t paying attention to what you are doing or maybe it was a reflection of Teresa’s anger in general. Anywho……did ya’ll notice almost everytime they show Jaqueline she is chewing? It would be funny to put together snapshots of all the times she is eating.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Vici–Lol about Jacqueline always eating. A while ago I posted about Jac always stuffing her face and within an hour she was on tweeter explaining why she eats, her love of food, etc. She wrote on tweeter that she sorry she offends people but didn’t write it in a nice way. It was more like “if you don’t like it, tuff”.

      • viki55 says:

        I think the producers editing is trying to tell us something;)

        • anniieee says:

          Has anyone seen the recent pics of Ashley…. her head is still big, but she is getting skinny–real skinny. And it came off fast.

          • anitabee says:

            Whacky Jacqui looked really thin on last weeks WWHL. I wonder what they’re doing? Maybe Kelly’s 700 calorie diet?

  14. Olivia says:

    Not sure which I am more disgusted with: last night’s NJ show or myself for watching this piece of trash.

    Each scene is a set up. No other way around it. How is it that the camera just happens to be there when Kim G shows up all over the place. Once at her house, once at Posche, once at Jacqueline’s, once at the court hearing. SET UP! Just to keep the ball rolling while this two faced monster is allowed to spread her brand of hypocrisy all over Franklin Lakes. Too, too convenient.

    Is there anything more boring than watching Caroline getting breakfast for her grown up brood and sending them out to work? Is there anything more boring than watching Juicy Joe make a pizza when we know now what a lying fraud he is and that this venture had been withheld from the bankruptcy suit? Is there anything even yet more boring by trying to “soften up” his image than watching him pretend to take the kids for martial arts lessons as they beat the crapola out of one another for laughs? Is there anymore more boring segments of Danielle “preparing” to defend herself while that cretin Danny looks on? Is there anything more frustrating than watching Trashley “act”? Even scenes with Derek were downright boring and you could see the same reaction from his face alone!

    This series has come to the end of the road. There is absolutely no sense beyond trashing Danielle and watching this “family” act holier than thou in order to get face time with the cameras. If I am not mistaken, even Trashley has been awarded time with announcing the “stay tuned” part of the series, granting her that extra nudge of being called a “star”. Enough with this dimwit already!

    How can they possibly go forward with yet another season? What’s left? They have beaten to death the Danielle hate for all it is worth. The Guidice’s have been exposed for the frauds they are. Danielle cannot get any lower in the morals department than she already is. The two Kim’s are despicable with their back and forth “allegiance”. Chris Laurita is in bankruptcy as well and may have to sell off his gun collection that Jacqueline was unaware of. Albie’s whining is getting on my last nerve and Trashley has shown what an immature dolt she is often enough to make my skin crawl. Bravo needs to pull the plug since whatever storyline they may be considering revolves around a group of morons with criminal tendencies, especially when showcasing Danny Pro as a sounding board for insane Danielle.

    It is difficult to imagine any series sinking as low as this one in their quest for ratings. Danielle admitting that she is really “the villain” last night on Andy Cohen’s show leads me to believe that this is all just a total set up from start to finish. Fine by her as long as the money and the opportunities roll in to make even more. Senseless trash brought to the viewer by way of people willing to present themselves as just that.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I almost liked Kim G last night. ALMOST. At least she was honest with Jacq and Theresa about still being friends with Danielle. And that Ashley deserved to be punished for assaulting Danielle. But she blew it when she told Jacq that by the time Ashley went to court she probably wouldn’t be friends with Danielle anymore. Then I remembered oh yeah, this is all plotted out. If not by Bravo then at least by the Kims. Danielle has served her purpose. The Kims are a staple on the show this season. Time to dump her and get on camera next season by being friends with Jacq and Theresa!
      Which is pretty much what Jacq did last year. Her controversial friendship with Danielle got her lots of screen time in season one. But she would have had to do serious harm to her relationship with Dina and Caroline to maintain it. So she switches allegiances and tada, lots of Jacq on season two.

      • vilzvet says:

        So it looks like Danielle is no longer friends with either Kim! I guess we will see this in the remaining few episodes. By the way the exterior of Kim G’s house is awesome but what’s with that kitchen and yucky wallpaper?

        • MAMAZ says:

          And what’s up with Kim D’s lips? I hate to pick on a person for their apperance but her mouth is so weird!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO both Kims were given the task of bridging the gap between the two camps – no one could do that! Their failure isn’t because of their attempts to get everyone in a scene together – it just can’t happen! So we get filler kids doing some nice things and some very not nice things – that is not what we want to watch but the producers have to fill the timeslot! This show wouldn’t even be interesting if it was only a half hour….this particular cast didn’t bring it!

    • Maxine49 says:

      You are absolutely right, Olivia. This show has no more story line left—been there, done that. How do they “top” the assault and hair pulling? Next step is a more harmful physical assault and they can NOT, MUST NOT go there. I think the Caroline family scenes are as boring as hell—and don’t even get me started on the Albie-Mommy thing! Did you see the look on Albert’s face when Albie and Mommy were talking about Caroline possibly going to an out of state law school with him? Good god! This show is done—stick a forchetta in it!

  15. Snarkella says:

    Thanks Lynn! Once again, you nailed it. I agree with you about Teresa’s wardrobe choices. After four kids, she understandably had a little post-pregnancy weight to deal with, but after all the credit cards girlfriend abused, surely she could have done herself up better than that. At least while the cameras were present.

  16. viki55 says:

    I was just watching B’s wedding episode again in the background as I was working. They took the song out! Ya know the “everythings gonna be alright”? It’s replaced with some elevator music!! Sure makes everyone singing along look silly now. If someone gets a chance, watch that part on Bravo.com and see if it is the same for you. Rats! I was gonna sing along too!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I noticed that – during one of the viewings (I think I’ve seen that episode about 5-6 times now) sometimes its on in the background. In one of the airings I noticed the song “No One” wasn’t played but then the next time I saw the episode it WAS played, there must be 2 versions and possibly they sometimes don’t play the song to save them some money. We know that Bravo is all about the money and everytime they play that song, it costs them.

  17. debbie says:

    “I was actually glad to see Teresa’s kids taking Karate lessons, Karate is an excellent discipline for kids and teaches them respect and good values. ”
    Lynne,
    I agree with you . Discipline and karate are great for kids. I was wondering while watching last night , if the girls had private lessons. Thankfully, I don’t think any other kids were there. Towards the end of the ‘lesson’ the girls had turned the whole thing into a hair pulling, pushing, free for all. With daddy standing by proudly, egging them on and smiling. I thought it was a sad commentary.
    I don’t know, maybe nothing this Jersey ‘crew’ does or will do will ever have me seeing them in a favorable light.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Actually, Lynn, both of my sons took karate and the sensei (doctor/teacher) told the boys and parents that fighting was not the purpose of training. The training was for your mind and control. Even at the meets, the instructors monitored the boys and girls. The rules of engagement were enforced. Joe telling them to fight like that was incorrect. I’m sure other moms on this site who have had this experience will back me up on this.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Martial arts dojos are a dime a dozen. Some are wonderful and take seriously the idea of respecting yourself and others. At these schools sparring is not a joke. It is well supervised.
        Some schools are belt factories. Their main goal is to make money. They push the kids through awarding belts just to keep them coming back.
        The “sparring” showed last night has as much to do with martial arts as Theresa has with fiscal responsibilty.

  18. Perla says:

    I response to you comment, “I’m not sure it was such a great idea to name her right and left punches after Teresa and Jacqueline while her children were there, but she does tell her girls everything and so far they seem to still be well-adjusted, smart, great kids so we’ll have to refer to Danielle’s judgment on that one.”

    I agree with the first part of your comment. I disagree with the portion after the “but.” I’ve seen so many “well adjusted” children end up in left field because of their parents’ behaviors. An adult should never involve children in arguments that don’t pertain to them.

    I remember holding grudges agains people whom my mother had disagreements with, and at the end, I could not remember what the initial disagreement was. I think Danielle is a poor role model for her girls. HER CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED to her whackiness.

    • viki55 says:

      Another set up too. That surely wan’t Danielle’s 1st time in a boxing ring.

      • Quincy IL says:

        So true. Those jabs were incredible. You don’t move that way without experience.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          And Danielle’s self defense move for the “hair pulling from behind” was a combination move that wouldn’t have been learned unless she has had lessons – because you don’t do the knee to the groin on women!

  19. Snarkella says:

    As for Juicy Joe, evil though he may be, I felt a little sorry for him as he toured his pizzaria with Teresa. Something tells me he’d be perfectly happy living in those apartments above the biz. But can you imagine having to tell THAT woman that the money has run out?

    • MAMAZ says:

      I agree Snarkella. He’s still a pig though.
      By the way, I like your mustard colored quilt piece, lol. I was just in J. Crew yesterday and they have some beautiful fall sweaters in the same color. Mine changes depending on whether I’m on my desktop or laptop. I thought that was sort of odd.

    • Char212 says:

      I didn’t feel sorry for him. Maybe if he’d told Teresa “no” more often they wouldn’t be in the mess they’re in now. I’ll die laughing if they do end up living there though. Maybe it’s his way of slowly breaking the news to her lol.

  20. Olivia says:

    Does anyone notice how Theresa’s kids talk to her? Not very respectful. They basically ignore her as their level of “whine” reaches such heights that she gives in to any and all demands. Almost every scene where these kids are featured they are shown misbehaving to a large extent while she indulges their every whim and tantrum.

    Jacqueline’s parenting of Trashley speaks for itself. An overindulged monster whose mother makes excuses more so out of guilt for past parental errors. I have a feeling that Trashley never really had her mother’s attention and it is payback time for the neglect in that Trashley loves the attention, good or bad, that she is getting from this show. Pathetic.

    Bad parenting, questionable finances, poor role models, and ignorant people do not make for good t.v. no matter how much lipstick they put on the pig.

  21. Olivia says:

    I am still venting here but what was that all about with Andy Cohen last night? There sat Danielle, basically mute, while that “grinning gargoyle” spend 30 minutes making lousy jokes while the rest of us waited to hear her answer some questions. Except for that stupid “table top” dance she performed, she was essentially silent throughout.

    Why not give us the lowdown on the Kim G “friendship” that seems to be no more? Answering “Kim who?” in her cute little way was frustrating. We all see Kim G for what she is and I am sure the Manzo’s view in the same light regardless of whether she has now declared herself on their side. After all this woman purposely inserted herself into the series as a female Othello.

    I cannot tolerate Andy Cohen. Too cute by half. And drunk as well.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Andy is low class even if he has money.

      The highlight was the humor of Jeff Lewis. He gets right to the point every single time. He and Bethenny have a lot in common.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I loved Jeff Lewis. He is so funny. I would like to see he and Bethenny host a Regis and Kelly type show together. Him and Bethenny? I can’t remember which is correct.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I love Jeff Lewis too as does my husband- he hates almost every Bravo show with the exception of Flipping Out.

        We always say that if we win the Mega Millions were are going to hire Jeff Lewis to renovate our house.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The right guests make all the difference in the world! Danielle is a horrible guest and was just on WWHL – so she was the first guest (big deal) and they were celebrating the show’s one year mark – they could have brought on other people who would have made both the current NJ drama and the birthday interesting! Jeff had no one to interact with and was clearly there to have fun! Andy is so off his game.

  22. Snarkella says:

    And what’s with WWHL? Did someone hold a gun to Danielle’s head to get her to go on that show? That’s how she was acting. And poor Jeff Lewis was probably sitting there thinking, “Wow. This is awkward. Why I am here?”

    • jezzibel says:

      you could tell it was a very uncomfortable show….seemed like Andy and Jeff were up for a little fun and banter but Danielle sucked all the entertainment out of the room

      • emt2 says:

        Seemed to me like Danielle was sick of Andy making jokes at her expense and trying to stir the pot (Do you think Dina is pretty, Danielle? That was beyond rude). I thought that it was hilarious. Andy looked like an asshole.

        • jezzibel says:

          Andy is what is considered a Obnoxious Drunk

        • 2Stupid says:

          What was with Danielle not denying, therefore, alluding that she had had a commitment ceremony with that Laurie chick. Danielle was just kind of creepy all night. The best part was Jenni serving cocktails and Jeff Lewis interrupting Danielle to say he would have a martini pronto.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            she thinks she is coming off all coy but she is a bore – and her snarky answers complete with facial expressions don’t work either. She could have at least made a pleasant remark about the shot glasses – promote Bravo and shows, etc but no she is a a snoozefest guest.

            • MAMAZ says:

              I was taught as a child to accept a gift graciously whether I liked it or not. To just say thank you.

        • twoile says:

          Andy elected himself the “jackhole” but 4 the wrong reason….

  23. boston02127 says:

    Ashley’s world must of been so insignificant before this show. Where are her girlfriends? What did she do before all the hate? Being the same age as her, (-1 yr) I don’t understand this. If I didn’t have the circumstances that I do with my mother being sick I’d be out having a blast. I’m not complaining by any means. I’m more than blessed that my mother is here. I do compare Ashley to my friends thou. Most of my friends are in school full time, working, traveling, going to concerts. Doing normal fun stuff. None of us have the perfect life. We all have problems, worries and money situations, which I’m sure Ashley does too. What I don’t understand is why she chose hate to add to every day problems in life. She must of felt very left out before she realized her ticket in the Manzo family was hating Danielle. Her “in” was hate. She must of wanted to “be somebody” and to be acknowledged so badly. She’s allowed her life to revolve around hate when she had a million other choices. The sad thing is that if Jacqueline and Chris got divorced I doubt Ashley would ever hear from any of the Manzos.

    • Olivia says:

      My guess is that she was the product of a teen marriage that did not last. She was probably left with Jacqueline’s parents while Jacqueline earned a living to support them. I also saw where she lived for awhile with her biological father which set up her living between several different homes during her growing up period.

      When she came to NJ she did not fit in with the school crowd who gave her a bad time. Not sure where I read this. Then it appears that the Manzo’s did not at first accept her mother into the fold. Now the t.v. series comes up and she feels she has found a place to “shine” by adding to the drama and hoping to be accepted by them as she busily “defends” them against wicked, evil Danielle.

      This kid is in over her head because she is fighting for acceptance from any quarter she can get it. A little warped thinking, yes, but understandable when you have been shunted around from one family to another during your early development. It was only recently that she moved out of Derek’s home and back with her mother. She is rootless which does not allow her to grow or achieve.

      This series is providing her a lifeline for the moment. Sad.

    • cusi77 says:

      Boston__ I commend you for being so mature for your age, Intelligent, well articulate, with all the values you have displayed in your comments here, your Mom must be very proud of you. I know here we all are. God bless you.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Boston – you have a full life because you are chosing to have one and because you have also have set goals for yourself – the people around you (friends and family) are there to motivate, support, encourage you – and have fun with you!
      Ashley doesn’t have anything because all she was given were material things! She has no reason to get an education, to set goals, to be mature or to be just plain respectful to her parents or be nice in general! Jacq isn’t as much a parent as a friend to her – she has never had consequences (and maybe even positive attention) and she isn’t mature (Jacq got that right!). This show is the perfect vehicle for Ashley – it plays to all her immaturity and negative energies! You don’t understand that, none of us understand that and sadly, her family doesn’t understand that either!

  24. boston02127 says:

    Ashley’s tweet from last night-
    she lied about this in court too… it was funny when we proved her wrong #realhousewives

    I wonder if she is talking about one certain incident or the whole court case.

  25. boston02127 says:

    Olivia–I agree about WWH. When Danielle said that she knew about Teresa’s financial situation but didn’t feel right to comment about it, I wanted to jump thru the TV.

    • Snarkella says:

      Oh dear. This doesn’t bode well for the reunion. I sense a whole lotta boring coming our way.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Unless they are all saving the hate-orade for the reunion show.

        I thought I saw on here that someone noted there was 4 episodes scheduled for the reunion. I can’t imagine if they are dedicating this much time for it that it would be a complete snooze fest.

    • vilzvet says:

      The only other Bravo blog up is Caroline’s, and she interestingly also says something like “I don’t know the reality of their financial situation so I don’t feel comfortable talking about it” (BULL, she is just covering her butt until their situation is all played out in court). Right now Caroline is the ONLY Housewife who appears to be in good shape financially. Why is Teresa still deny, denying TODAY nevermind what was filmed months ago on the show her dire straits? Is no one at her so successful book signings asking about the garage sale? I just find it hard to believe. I also can’t believe I picked up the issue of In Touch which again should have been shelved which featured the house, with NO comments about how this house was built fraudulently. It must piss off their creditors SO much to see features like this and scenes like last night, Teresa snootily walking through the pizzeria (did it actually open, someone must know out there) and apartments. Really ridiculous.

    • Maxine49 says:

      The Giudice’s financial situation is public knowledge so Danielle had no reason not to comment on it. What a disappointment that was. Danielle could not have been more boring. Can’t believe I wasted 30 minutes on that show. Ugh!

      • Quincy IL says:

        Why is there a limit of two guests. Jen should have been there with the group. She’s just as important as any of the housewives.

  26. Kelly_Has_ Big_Shoulders says:

    Good Morning Lynn and good morning ALL!! I haven’t written on here in awhile but I have been lurking and keeping up with you.
    I just wanted to say that for that person who defended Teresa yesterday regarding her education , YEAH right she is so educated that in her interview when she was speaking about the Pizzeria she said Juicy was an (Entrepreneur) she almost couldn’t say the word and she asked someone isn’t that someone who starts there own business? Yeah she is really educated I can tell.

  27. realityblows says:

    Isn’t Jeff a germophobe? How could he sit that close to Danielle? lol

  28. Nika says:

    Love the blog Lynn! This is my first time posting but I do read the blog often.

    After watching last night’s episode I am praying this is the last season of NJ Housewives. I think that Bravo realized how little they had to work with this season and just started making up new storylines as they went along. I really commend Dina for leaving now. Maybe she saw what the show was becoming and felt it was just not worth it to stick around. I also like Caroline much more this season, even though I expected her to slam Ashley she has stayed out of the day to day Danielle drama that is fueling Jac and Teresa’s lives. Albie and the Law school drama is just another example of a storyline made up as the filmed. The cast never tells the ending of the storylines (this is why the “FIGHT” has been three episodes long!) but Caroline mentioned months ago it all worked out in the end. I do love to see her with her family and I thought maybe the show had a chance at salvation when they showed her with her sisters….alas no. Just more Danielle and how much they hate her, she’s a horrible mother, she’s a coke whore etc and so forth.

    *Hangs head in shame* I used to really like Teresa and I even bought her book (it was a good book too). Now that she has been revealed for the bully she is I can’t stand her and her “I’m better than you” behavior. That book was most certainly written entirely by her co-author. I think she told the funny stories and cleaned up her language but Teresa cannot put a coherent sentence together much less write a book. I feel sorry for Joe sometimes because it looks as if he can see the end coming but he’s putting on a happy face for his family. My advice to Joe is to never do anything else illegal and include T because she’s as dumb as a box of rocks. Dumber than Lynn Curtain dumb!

    Bravo TV make it stop! Please for the love of all things Holy STOP. I feel ashamed, dirty and dumb after watching this show. This show is an embarrassment to Bravo and it makes you wonder if the network has any morals after airing this season.

    • Char212 says:

      Welcome Nika! I’m with you, please make it stop. I hope bravo hears us and put these people and us out of our misery.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She is dumber than Lynn Curtain dumb….lol love it!

  29. emt2 says:

    I watched WWHL (not the NJ episode thought) and I have to say that I thought it was hilarious the way Danielle treated Andy.

    Andy is completely hypocritical and has treated Danielle very poorly. He clearly sides with the Manzos and co. and takes cheap shots at Danielle whenever he can. Interesting, because without Danielle, the show would get ZERO ratings.

    So, I was happy to see Danielle make Andy feel uncomfortable. She’s already answered many of those questions in other interviews but people hate her so much that they forget and tend to focus on how ugly she is or whatever it is that people dislike about her. I was laughing out loud throughout the whole show.

    Danielle knows that she is being exploited by BRAVO and especially by Andy without repeaping the same benefits as the other women. She doesn’t get to do the same press tours, the same endorsements, the same parties, etc. as the other women because they refuse to spend time with her. That emphasizes the Us vs. Danielle gang mentatlity and Andy plays right along with that and I don’t think it’s fair, at all. Danielle brings the ratings, Andy! No matter how much you may dislike her, you have to admit that she is the show.

    Yet, Andy thinks it is okay to treat her with contempt and try to embarrass her, all the while kissing the Manzos and especially Teresa’s No-Head Guidice’s asses?

    Andy looked like an asshole to me last night, not Danielle. Andy is an asshole. And apparently he is a lush. A smug, lush asshole. lol

    • jezzibel says:

      he seemed totally happy about B. being on the show next week

      • emt2 says:

        Of course. He LOVES B. She is the gift that keeps giving and she has inserted a bit of class and fun into a network that is clearly going the Jerry Springer route.

        And I think that Andy is really friends with B in real life and would be friends with her even if she wasn’t on the show.

        • MAMAZ says:

          Yes Danielle is aware that she is being exploited. But she as much as said last night that she’s ok with it. She said it was a great job. So I don’t feel sorry for her. If she is willing to whore herself out as the villanous slut of the show then she has to accept the derision of her castmates, Andy and the public. It’s part of that great job.

          • emt2 says:

            I don’t think she wants to be the villain, though. I think that is what she is made to be. Does it make sense that two weeks ago on WWHL, the poll said that Danielle started the fight when it was clearly started by Teresa? Danielle is a villain but she takes some unfair shots and the public just hates her, for the most part.

            I don’t feel sorry for her, though.

        • Night Light says:

          That is exactly what’s happening to this franchise. The whole RH franchis is going through the Jerry Springer “phase” but Bravo is forgetting the people who view the show are not college kids.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I thought Andy Cohen was dick ever since his drunken rant about the ‘homeless’ American Girl doll. It was so gross to watch and just made him look like an elitist.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      don’t forget that tan! Andy is a jackhole but not for that reason!!!

  30. Night Light says:

    I did not watch RHONJ last night on purpose but I did catch pieces of WWH. Did Dirty-D get more facial plastic surgery? She is loosing weight or something because her face looks nasty-gaunt. Anyway the pieces that I did see: Andy asking Dirty-D if she thought Dina was pretty was pretty shitty. Bravo/Andy is straight up setting up and provoking these women but to their credit these women play into it. Now Jeffy giving Dirty-D money for a dance was gross but I will move on because I love him. I did see Jeffy also making a couple of remarks that “knowing” him and how he interacts with his own cast was trying to start shit. But to know Jeff much like Bethenny is to love them. I think that’s why you can root for both because what you see is what you get; each pushing their business on tv but they also show their true personalities.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Andy mentioned that Danielle was rolling her eyes about Jenny’s song. Why would she do that?

      • Night Light says:

        Dirty-D IS a hater. She isn’t the type of person to feel good for someone else’s success. I just had a thought…I think this is what Jill Zarin would become if she didn’t have Bobby because she can’t be happy for someone else’s success either. Truly pathetic.

      • emt2 says:

        Because Jenny had a line in the song about a prostitution whore which was directed at Danielle. It was meant to get a rise out of her and so she rolled her eyes.

        Not everything Danielle does is because she is a hater….

  31. boston02127 says:

    Cusi & Beverly in NJ & anyone else–re: Internet acronyms.
    http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/?lookup=A

    Have a good day everyone 🙂

    • moriasheehan says:

      thanks Boston. great link to bookmark for future reference. BTW, you are a very mature person, for your age. more than me, i think LOL keep up the great posts.

    • cusi77 says:

      Boston, Ty! Have a good day you too.

    • Thank-you so much Boston,that was really considerate and very much appreciated. I’m going to print it and keep it taped to my laptop! You really are so mature for your age…..kudos to your Mom for a job well done!

    • twoile says:

      Thank you Boston very helpful.

  32. Olivia says:

    I wish I knew where I read this before, but I seem to remember reading how Danielle and the Manzo’s came to be.

    Apparently Jacqueline and Danielle met at the beauty parlor about a year before the series even began. They became friends and Jacqueline “confided” in Danielle about her problems with the Manzo family. But apparently, for awhile at least, Danielle was included in some of the Manzo functions. Remember back to Season 1 and Danielle was “dating” Steve. He was a friend of Theresa and Joe if memory serves. In fact, there was something else I read somewhere that one of the reasons Joe turned on them was that one day he caught Danielle and Steve in his family room going at it hot and heavy in front of the kids.

    Also, there is an episode in Season 1 where Jacqueline, Chris, Joe, Steve, Theresa, and Danielle are dining out and Danielle was about to “break up” with Steve. So there was at one time a connection of sorts.

    My guess is that either Danielle “confided” her past to Jacqueline who then told the Manzo’s which led to a “google” search of her past, or someone from the area let the family know where they could find information on her because it is now apparent that she has lived in that area for sometime and it was never an issue beforehand. It is not as if she had dropped out of the sky because she and her ex husband have been a part of Wayne, NJ for awhile. My money is on Jacqueline telling the Manzo’s and Dina went to town with the google search and the book became known. I also think this explains Danielle’s so called “obsession” with Dina since I believe it was Dina who started the rumor, not Caroline.

    A “feud” developed from that and here we are.

    • emt2 says:

      You are right that Jacqueline and Danielle were friends first and Jacqueline confided a lot in Danielle about her problems with the Manzos. This is one of the reasons why I think Jacqueline and the Manzos hates Danielle so much. They are trying to blame her for their own internal family problems, when in fact they existed prior to Danielle’s involvement (D, no doubt, exacerbated the problems and took joy out of doing so but they existed already). Last year, Dina kept saying that she couldn’t believe that J was taking sides with D and betraying the family and Caroline kept saying that J was hurting C and D’s parents because of her betrayal. Whatever, C….

      I think that Teresa confided in Danielle about the Manzos, as well and that is why she hates Danielle so much. There is really no reason why T should hate D as much as she does unless it’s because D knows things….

      I think that Danielle and Dina have known each other for years and Danielle has always had a love/hate relationship with Dina but you can tell that Danielle really thought they were the same kind of people and really wanted to be best friends/sisters. Dina, not so much.

      I think that the someone in the Manzos researched the book and told everyone but I think prior to that, Dina was spreading rumors/gossiping about Danielle. She admitted it during the Last Supper dinner.

      It’s interesting that the people who seem to hate Danielle the most this season (T and J) really don’t have legitimate problems with her. Even Dina doesn’t hate Danielle that much and she seems to have the most reason to, imo.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I think I remember someone saying that Theresa and Joe originally fixed Danielle up with Steve. Is that right?

        • emt2 says:

          Yes. But, now T is saying that isn’t true but if you look at episodes from last year, T says that Joe hooked Steve up with Danielle.

      • Olivia says:

        Exactly. I think that Jacqueline gave Danielle plenty of insight into how that family operates and when the “book” became a topic of conversation, Danielle felt betrayed. I also think a lot of talk was floating around that beauty salon prior to the filming of the show and both sides were equally involved. Each one took the opportunity to “slam” one another and it escalated from there.

        I would bet my house on the fact that Jacqueline in her own way instigated much of this “revelation” in as much as she was friendly with Danielle who has a habit of becoming “friends” with people who just say hello. Jacqueline in turn more than likely fed the information to Dina who ran with it. It seems obvious that before she became “friends” with Danielle, none of the Manzo’s were aware of her past. I think Danielle chose to confide that in Jacqueline which may account for Jacqueline’s reluctance to part ways with Danielle regardless of how much the Manzo’s pushed. She felt the sting of guilt.

        • Olivia says:

          We may not have seen this bit of “violence” on film, but does anyone remember the Reunion Show where it was mentioned that Jacqueline threw a punch at Caroline?

          If I remember correctly, Jacqueline had just given birth to CJ and asked Chris to babysit so she could have some time alone for a change. When she came home, Caroline was there and criticized her for expecting Baby Brother Chris to take care of the baby!

          Jacqueline became irritated and words were said which led her to belt Caroline on the arm. It was discussed but we were assured that it was all over and forgotten. It appears that Jacqueline deeply resented Caroline’s usual butting into things.

        • MAMAZ says:

          And there was more of a relationship between Theresa and Danielle than T acts like now.
          This is what really bugs me about the Manzo clique. J and T were friends with D for about a year before filming began. Do they expect me to believe that they didn’t know what kind of person she was before the show? I doubt if her behavior changed very much between the time they all met and the time they started shooting. Danielle is trashy, tacky, needy and very possesive of her friends. And apparently they were ok with that for a whole year. Then the cameras turn on and their not? I value loyalty in a person. None of these “woman” know the meaning of the word.

        • emt2 says:

          I don’t think Jacqueline knew the extent of Danielle’s past. I think that last year J was very truthful when she said that D and C called her over to gossip about the book. It seemed like J didn’t even care about D’s past unless it would start to directly affect her life (aka D trying to steal her husband or kidnap her kids). That is a direct quote from J.

          Honestly, I think that J liked to have a Manzo outsider as a friend.

          I think that if Jacqueline had not gotten pregnant, she would still be friends with Danielle and still hating her sisters-in-law.

          • MAMAZ says:

            She may not have known about her past but the phone sex with strangers, rumours all over town about Danielle and married men, the way she brings men into her children’s lives. These would have been more than enough to make me back away from a friendship with her. They liked her just fine until the cameras started rolling. Were they afraid she would steal the show?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jacq sure is keeping the hate going – yelling at the country club- you are the felon, 26 page indictment, pistol whipping someone – how that was relevant to either Teresa or Danielle’s behavior is lost on me! That isn’t defending, that is defaming. Why she wasn’t sitting on her own lunatic daughter is my question….Teresa is a grown woman capable of her own decisions/behavior. Ashley has proven to be a bitch and should have been her mother’s first and only priority!!!

          • Well said, Windy. Where are Jacks priorities? What are her priorities? SHE’S the one who’s done irreparable damage to her daughter’s life-she brought her kid into this mess..stoked the fires by trash talking in front of ALL her kids. and now she wants to blame D for her dumbass kid being in trouble?! gimme a break. Jack acts worse than her kid. she should have left the show. in 10 years she’ll look back and say “what was i thinking?”

    • twoile says:

      It has been suggested on another site that Bravo staff actually provided the BOOK to spice up the show. Not to far fetched IMHO.

  33. Quincy IL says:

    I wonder about the mysticism going on in NJ, NYC, and LA. “Flipping Out,” all of the real housewive shows, and “Selling NYC” have exorcisms and people with crystal balls. It’s shocking to see these wealthy supposedly educated people paying for someone to carry a candle around a million dollar plus house.

    My favorite was Ally lying on a table at the weight loss clinic having a woman take a candle over her ear in circles for 5,000 dollars per week. She lost 11 lbs ( of water and cleansed material.) That’s 454.45 dollars per pound and I bet some of that came back after Ally drank a glass of water.

    There’s a dark side to Danielle religious fevor. She wears crosses, but the chain places them right between her breasts. Take a look at last night’s outfit on WWHL. Somehow our good Catholic girl, Danielle, has her faith mixed up with her sexuality. Some people play those games in the bedroom, she lives that game.

    Other wives wear the crosses as jewelry. Ramona and Dina wear them to match outfits. Perhaps, that is the Italian influence. The cross represents spirituality to me. There is a darkness to Danielle’s use of the cross that bothers me.

    • Night Light says:

      When I saw the whole candle in the ear episode I thought the same thing. They do the same thing in Mexico for other reason but it was nothing to do with weight loss. If you want to loose weight you have to eat healthy and/or work out, period. You can have a variety of health ailments but that is the only way you will loose weight. Jill regretted sharing this on season 1 but its too late.

      • jillz68 says:

        It is what is called ear coning:

        http://www.coningcompany.com/faq.html

        What is Ear Coning?

        Ear coning is a safe, simple home remedy for gently removing excess wax and toxins from inside the ears and eustachian tubes. Long,tapered cones are inserted into the ears and lit. The waxy, tackysmoke generated by the beeswax cones spirals down into the eustachian tube and then returns the toxins which adhere back to the cone. The entire process is relaxing and noninvasive.

        Never had it done and it sounds like it could be gross but not that bizarre.

        • emt2 says:

          My hippie roommates in college had this done a lot!

          I’ve done it a few times. It is so gross what comes out of your ear. Disgusting.

    • emt2 says:

      I actually find Dina’s “spiritualism” more creepy than Danielle’s. Dina wears those crosses that hang in her cleavage, as well. Dina’s home is filled with creepy crosses, Buddhas, crystals, paintings of Saints, etc. It’s strange and doesn’t really reflect Dina’s “pure soul” as much as she would like to believe.

      Dina is like the crazy old lady who was loose when she was a young lady and now tries to spend the rest of her life repenting for her past transgressions by surrounding herself with religious paraphernalia and extolling the virtue of mysticism and God, all of the time.

      Her charity seems so forced to me. And I think she relies on her sexuality to get most of what she wants, all the while wearing a cross in her cleavage and crystal bracelets next to her Gold Rolex and diamond tennis bracelets.

      I don’t know. I just find Dina’s “spirituality” and “charitable” image as being very forced. I think she is the type to throw stones and hide her hand behind her back or her family. She seems to be…forced. Not at all genuine.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I agree Quincy. I find using a cross or crucifix as merely jewelry offensive. But that huge cross hanging in Danielle’s cleavage was even worse.
      I cannot find ANYTHING good to say about this woman.

      • Maxine49 says:

        I have to respectfully disagree about the cross as jewelry….it’s iconic, not necessarily religious….a crucifix is quite different. Crosses as jewelry have been popular as far back as I can remember. When I wear a cross (not a crucifix) I don’t wear it necessarily as a display of religious belief, although one may draw a conclusion. I have quite collection of crosses and I proudly wear them–“cleavelage” or not!

    • viki55 says:


      Short video on the true meaning of the cross.

      I have also noticed peace signs from the 60’s are back in fashion. A lot of them on the shirts of the NJ housewives. Did you know that it is a upside down, broken cross? Known as the Neronic cross when Nero crucified the Apostle Peter head down. I used to wear it in the olden days and never knew of the deeper message. Ah the innocents of youth -sigh-.

      • realityblows says:

        Thank you for that video Vicky. I watched a recent show about the shroud of Tourin on the history channel. I think you would like it. The expert took the image and somehow made a 3-D image of Jesus’ face and body. I don’t know if it really is what Jesus looks like but when scientists say the shroud is the nexus of science and faith and a miracle they can’t explain, well, it was an amazing show. “amazing” in a real way, not the Kelly way which takes all meaning from the word 😀

      • Quincy IL says:

        My 80 year old mother wants to say thank you for this video. She is a practicing Catholic.

    • janie says:

      As a true Catholic, I am deeply offended by the casual use of Rosaries. A Rosary is used in a religeous ritual. It is NEVER to be used for adornment. Chris wore one, Teresa wore one in the hospital and has one hanging from her rear-view mirror. This is truly wrong and offensive to anyone for whom a Rosary is a religious icon.

  34. AmyW says:

    I agree! I bet also they were voting on watch what happens live! No I dont agree with Danielle behavior BUT Ashley was werong Jac is finding someway to justify 4 her, saying a felon is pressing charges against her daughter, Where was Chris when we needed him? Yeah I hope they re cast RHONJ all together.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      ITA

      That was so pathetic I can’t even begin to comprehend the lack of reasoning behind it. So because Danielle has a criminal past because of something that happened 20 years ago, she somehow can’t be a victim of a crime and want to seek justice?

      Jac is forgetting one important detail in all of that. Danielle answered for her crime(s)- and now it’s Ashley’s turn to pay the piper.

      And they need to drop the whole ‘she thought she was protecting me’, ‘she was trying to defend her mother’ BS. No one believes it, but even if she did think D hit her mother, it wouldn’t warrant a sneak attack from behind.

      I couldn’t even stomach these losers blogs this week, disgusting idiots.

  35. Ellabean says:

    Regarding Housewives of New York and their official websites.

    Has anybody ever noticed that Jill ‘s official web site looks like its one of those cheesy psychic hotline web sites ?

    To save you the hassle of pulling them all up:
    http://jillzarin.com

    Bethenny’s – so classy. Clean, professional, user friendly, understated. She’s a marketing genius.
    http://www.bethenny.com/

    And now Kelly has one (thanks to Boston yesterday for finding it). I think this is new. I find the header pictures honestly kinda scary. Check out the one on the far right. It epitomizes her craziness. Yikes. And the whole site screams egocentric – not in a good way. I will bet in the days to come she’ll be adding components just. like. …..Bethenny’s – recipes, where to purchase her “stuff”, etc.

    http://www.kellykillorenbensimon.com/blog/

  36. realityblows says:

    I like the younger Manzo brother. When he’s on I know I’m going to be laughing with him. Yeah, he said he wanted to open a strip club/car wash but come on; when Bravo heard that joke they probably thought *lightbulb* “Hey, lets have him really go to a club and car wash and pretend he’s serious about it. It’ll be hilarious!” I think the sister has a great sense of humor too. Too bad Bravo didn’t go with the humorous and went with the darkness.

    • viki55 says:

      Totally agree! Just like with the RHWNY, I like the fun light hearted stuff the best.

  37. Ellabean says:

    testing

  38. Ellabean says:

    Regarding Housewives of New York and their official websites.

    Has anybody ever noticed that Jill ‘s official web site looks like its one of those cheesy psychic hotline web sites ?

    To save you the hassle of pulling them all up:
    http://jillzarin.com

    Bethenny’s – so classy. Clean, professional, user friendly, understated. She’s a marketing genius.
    http://www.bethenny.com/

    And now Kelly has one (thanks to Boston yesterday for finding it). I think this is new. I find the header pictures honestly kinda scary. Check out the one on the far right. It epitomizes her craziness. Yikes. And the whole site screams egocentric – not in a good way. I will bet in the days to come she’ll be adding components just. like. …..Bethenny’s – recipes, where to purchase her “stuff”, etc.

    http://www.kellykillorenbensimon.com/blog/

    • error404 says:

      Yes, their sites all reflect heir personalities and intentions.

      Jill: looks like a teen’s my space page

      Bethenny: professional business, like Rachel Ray or Paula Dean

      Kiki: so ADD off meds.. all over the place with “aren’t I da bomb!” as it’s only common thread. Not sure what you mean by “new” but I first noticed it months ago.

      • Ellabean says:

        Got cha on the not new Kelly site. I just saw it when Boston posted the link yesterday. Good summary of all the sites, error.

    • moriasheehan says:

      the pic on far right, i think she was trying to channel bridgitte bardot and ends up looking like she has a sling blade hidden behind her.

  39. Ellabean says:

    Hey Lynn, I’m in moderation. Is it because I posted 3 links in one post ?
    When you get a minute. Thanks!

  40. error404 says:

    OMG, Bethenny AND La Rue on the same show! Woohoo!

  41. error404 says:

    Plug #1 “place of yes” – taking a sip of coffee for each one LOL

  42. ilovelynn says:

    hey! bethenny is on the view as we speak. thought it was going to be thursday?

  43. emt2 says:

    I think B is co-hosting the View now.

  44. mnsue says:

    I like Joy B less and less. This is not just because I like Bethenny. Bethenny says nursing is hard. Joy “no its not”.
    Joy don’t say that to the person who is currently breast feeding. She just said she had to pump in a hurry before they start the show. That sounds hard. She works and whether she is home or busy or not she is the sole person responsible for Brynn’s food.
    Not impossible, sure, but hard.
    Joy is becoming more and more of an old hag.

    • viki55 says:

      Thanks for the update. No way could I watch that show. They could sure use someone with brains on the panel, like Bethenny, but I still couldn’t watch it if the others where on it. Do tell more of what Bethenny says! Your my only hope for info!!

    • Quincy IL says:

      There are know it alls like Joy out there, but no one really likes them.

    • Maxine49 says:

      I read somewhere that Joy is on Team Jill—ugh! Jill has been on Joy’s evening talk show.

  45. cusi77 says:

    Oh! I am now in the Pacific Time! I have to wait two hours to watch “The View” with our Bethenny…

  46. realityblows says:

    I’ve noticed that Joy can’t stand Bethenny. Every time Bethenny has been on the show she’s been snarky to her and Bethenny lets it go because she’s actually grown beyond her snarky self. First thing out of her mouth is again essentially saying Bethenny is a liar. Last time she called her a liar (basically) about losing baby weight. I kinda wish Bethenny would engage her right back because she’s intelligent and would beat her in a snark fest. SOMEone needs to put that bitch in her place. I don’t know why Joy wouldn’t like Bethenny because they are both on the “liberal” side of most things. It has to be jealousy.

    • emt2 says:

      Jill is friends with Joy so that’s the reason why Joy acts that way. Joy is a hypocrite, btw.

    • viki55 says:

      I think the Joy and Jill share a fan club. Birds of a feather. Feathers make me think of Kelly. Get her out of my head!!

    • mnsue says:

      You’re so right , B could take her.
      B is doing a good job of getting into the conversations, not too much,not too little.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Joy doesn’t like anyone. She is not a nice person.

  47. realityblows says:

    Jill and Joy? OMG No wonder!!

  48. error404 says:

    Bethenny, La Rue, and Christine Beranski all in one show! Good, now I’ll never have to watch this show again. lol

    • mnsue says:

      I was surprised Bryan Batt was going to be on. Would he agree to do press for Mad Men if he really won’t be back? Maybe they really are keeping his return on the down low.
      Maybe Matthew Weiner will bring him back because so many liked Sal.
      Christine Baranski is cool.

      • error404 says:

        Always loved Bryan too! Like Christine, it’s nice to see working actor finally celebrated/discovered.

        • MAMAZ says:

          I loved Sal Romano on Mad Men. It would be great to see him back on the show. I think he would do press for them anyway out of respect for the way they treated his storyline. It was so beautiful and poignant. It broke my heart.

  49. HD says:

    I didn’t watch last night. I started p90x and I have to get a fair amount of sleep before getting up at 6 a.m. to work out. The Manzo’s were not worth my rest. I cam tell by this recap, Lynn that I didn’t miss much. This show went downhill fast. Everyone hates Danielle and tune in next week when everyone will hate Danielle some more.

  50. viki55 says:

    Quincy, So glad your mom injoyed it.
    Please share this with her. I still get goosebumps & tears when I watch it. For me, it is the most powerful illustration of our need for our savior:) Let me know how she likes it.

  51. error404 says:

    LOL HD

    I refuse to watch too!

    Last night I made this instead:
    http://sixpondmeadow.com/10520/?p=2826
    and I don’t feel like someone stole an hour of my life like I do when I watch RHONJ!

    • cusi77 says:

      error_ I went to your site, a message apeared “a scrip on this page is causing your web browser to run slowly. If it continues to run, your computer might become irresponsive.” (?). It became irresponsive, I had to start all over.
      Gosh! I enjoy all you guys do… I will try again.
      Somebody could help me… I would like to have some kind of feature helping me with “spelling”.
      I am in our little apt. in Las Vegas with my “pink” laptop and wireless Internet connection… could this be the irresponsive thing?

      • moriasheehan says:

        cusi, there should be a spell check included with your browser. i use firefox and if a misspelling a red wavy line shows up and you right click and alternate spellings show up. just choose the one that looks most like what you are trying to spell. hope that helps.

      • error404 says:

        sorry about that. I submitted a ticket to tech support (my husband. lol) and am awaiting a report.

  52. ilovelynn says:

    when bethenny speaks, joy has a look on her face like she smells sh*t. she makes me sick! she is soooooo green with envy!

  53. error404 says:

    warning: gay moment ahead!

    the clothes!
    Bethenny = fabulous!
    Sherry = Dress Barn
    Joy = Grandma
    Whoopi = honey I shrank the crazy old bag lady

    doesn’t this show have a stylist!?!

    • MAMAZ says:

      Yes and he hates all the regulars.

    • Ellabean says:

      Today on The View –

      Sherri look like a back up dancer in an MCHammer video.

      They ALL ALWAYS look bad – except for Barbara – like her or not – she dresses tastefully and age appropriate.

      Bethenny was TERRIFIC. Guest hosts on this deteriorating show always have a difficult time speaking because of all the loud mouth cross talk. They shout like fishwives yelling at each over the backyard laundry lines.

      Bethenny was poised, engaged, acted like she was genuinely interested in all the guests – didnt clutch those cheat sheet blue cards like life lines. Thought of things out of her own head – in the moment . Didn’t act like the other 4 puppets . You know they all are fed lines/ questions in their EFP earpieces from the misogynist producer, Bill Geddie, like idiots. They do ZERO prep – except makeup and hair. Sloppy Whoopi shows up the late every day (thats a fact) and slides stoned into her chair.

      Bethenney actually listened to the guests. She looked lovely. Dressed daytime talk show appropriate. Yes Joy Behar was harsh. So glad Survivor girl rapid chipmunk, Hasselbeck, wasn’t there .

      I do sense the Joy – dissing of B. Not sure if B is in Jill’s camp.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Excellent recap – all very true! I was shocked that Sherri walked out looking like that! I think someone hid all of the mirrors backstage! Whoopie was dragging out her words and staring straight down at her idiot cards when she was supposed to be giving her personal opinion of something….Whoopie needs to get the hell off of this show and back into making movies where she can shine again. She is clearly bored shitless by this drivel!

        Thank you baby Jesus for not having Elizabeth on the show today and I think you’re right, no matter what Bethenny was going to say about breast feeding, that idiot Joy was going the opposite way. B said it was hard, Joy said, “No its not!” in her snarky moronic way! Sorry Joy but YES IT IS for many women, not everyone is perfect like you are. Joy is an idiot!

        • moriasheehan says:

          i thought what whoopie had to say about books was great. i am the same way. if traveling i have at least 5 books with me. i even keep backups in car in case i forget to put one in my purse when going anywhere. you never know when a minute to read pops up. like waiting for trains, drive thru lines.

        • MAMAZ says:

          Breast feeding for me was very difficult and frustrating. And then I felt guilty for having a hard time and being frustrated. And there were many well meaning morons telling me it wasn’t hard. That’s an insensitive and harmful approach to take. Thank you Bethenny for expressing what many women are afraid to say.

        • cusi77 says:

          Dear Lynn,

          How is your flu? Are you feeling better today?

        • Ellabean says:

          Thank, Lynn. This is the show I love to hate. Uh oh – here comes “Callin you out”. Wink wink.

          There’s a gang of us that are waiting for the righteous smackdown of_____ I won’t say who on this blog – since the May 2007 Rosie O ~ Hasselbeck split screen. We came awful close 0 especially during the presidential election year.

          I read on another blog that Beth tweeted that she did something very unusual last night – in preparation for her View day:

          She actually researched the guests.

          It showed.

  54. DesertGal says:

    It’s funny, but years ago, I lived in Henderson, Nevada…and I swear I’ve met Jacqueline. When she said that she had been a stylist there, it clicked with a vague memory I have. The woman I remember was very “Las Vegas showgirl/beauty queen”style-big hair, cheesy jewelry, tight jeans, lots of cleavage, but younger and skinnier than the Jacqueline we see on the show. Not positive that it is the same person, but I think so. She was also very sweet, if it is the same person.

    Anyway…I’ve never seen more mind numbingly dumb people on television than this show. It doesn’t matter what Ashley’s motivation was – and I don’t believe for a second that she really thought Danielle had struck her mother – you don’t put your hands on people. Period. And if you do, then you deserve what you get.

    I’m not a Danielle supporter at all, but getting your hair yanked out hurts. We’re not talking about a painless assault here. And Danielle, wisely for once, was attempting to get away from all of them. She didn’t deserve to be physically assaulted.

    They should have just left her the hell alone-since that is what all of them are always saying they want to do anyway. Danielle is perfectly good at making a complete ass of herself-they should just chill out and let her continue doing so. And while Bravo certainly sets up all this confrontational crap, each of these women does have the capacity to say no. Dina did it. Caroline does it. But Teresa and Jac apparently don’t have the common sense of a grasshopper between them.

    Tiresome. The entire show is tiresome. I’m hanging in to watch the reunion, but the whole thing is so transparently manipulated and forced that I hope Bravo pulls the plug next season or gets a new cast.

    And I really wish someone would smack that disgusting little smirk of Ashley’s face. I got the sense that Chris would really like to.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Ashley IS dumb…..bag of rocks dumb. It’s transparent.

      I thought Andy did a poor job of concealing his contempt of Danielle, he was just rude to her. Of course she lets it pass because she is enjoying her 15 minutes too much. Andy must have issues with his “mother”.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Even if Danielle had hit her mother it wouldn’t make it right. Are you listening Caroline? It’s not like she came upon Danielle beating her mother and she intervened to save her.
        I’m not a Danielle fan either but I do believe it hurt. And extensions are expensive and they would have had to have been replaced. Ashley got what she deserved. And since then she has laughed about it, denied hurting her and continued taunting her on Twitter and the Bravo blog. Has Chris thrown her out of the house? I didn’t think so. I have to quote Danielle here, “Great parenting Jacqueline. Awesome.”

        • Snarkella says:

          I was dismayed to see the results of the poll. 80% thought Danielle shouldn’t have pressed charges. Why not? If someone pulled hair out of my head, I’m sure I’d feel violated. I know it’s not a stabbing, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t like it.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I really doubt the accuracy of that poll, unless the Manzo and other clans paid for a phone bank to skew the results, then Bravo put the fix in.

            I find it hard to believe that any reasonable person wouldn’t press charges and that if there was even a sliver of hesitation, it would be evaporated by Ashely’s further behavior e.g. ‘unbe-weave-able’ , ‘I did it because she is a bitch’ ect.

            • Zoey says:

              I think the show was becoming so boring that the producers just change the results to cause some drama and get people talking. There was nothing else going on!

              I always thought Sweaty Andy was creepy too. I am still shocked at how everyone fawns over him, especially ‘real’ stars, like SJP and Kelly Ripa. He must really have some pull in the biz!

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                He does seem to have friendships with some very respected people, like you mentioned, also Natasha Richardson (R.I.P).

                I’m not sure what his appeal is, maybe he throws ‘fabulous’ parties.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                PS. I also agree with you about the results. They seemed to be a little to level with rounded numbers like 80% and 20%.

            • twoile says:

              I don’t find Bravo polls any more valid than thier blog feedback.

      • emt2 says:

        Andy is so gross. He has changed so much in one year. It’s like sending your child to a semester abroad in college and seeing a complete transformation. Only, going abroad usually makes people more mature and self-aware. WWHL has made Andy more immature and completely self-serving and gross. He appears to be a lush and it’s not a good thing. His smirks, his obsessions with inappropriate things like 13 year-old Ben Weiner and Grandma Wrinkles is jarring. And he should learn to disguise his contempt better. As much as he “hated” Jill, he never treated her with as much open hostility as he treats Danielle.

        I think most of his A list friends like Sarah Jessica will not be appearing on WWHL in the near future.

      • Snarkella says:

        I thought Danielle looked nervous. Like she was just waiting for Andy to pull out the creepy-cat-on-her-chest video again.

        • MAMAZ says:

          I used to like Andy when he only did the reunions. But just like JZ he now thinks he’s a big star and that everything he does is cute. Well it’s not. Again, not a big fan of Danielle but he is so rude to her. It’s not right that a network exec would play favorites like that. However she is obviously willing to put up with it for the fame and fortune. I would have some respect for her if she told him ” That’s ef*ckingnough” like she did Theresa.
          I am sick to death of the whole Danielle and Lori Michaels are they aren’t they game. Who gives a crap?

        • Maxine49 says:

          I don’t think Danielle did herself any favors last night by being boring…there’s nothing worse than to bore the viewers to death. It was a total snooze fest. It’s likely she won’t be back on WWHL, so that’s not good for her.

          I think the jury is out on whether Danielle has done a good jib with those beautiful girls. It’s hard to believe they can escape their childhood unscathed. They certainly are exposed to things they should not be. Time will tell.

          I am not a fan of any of the RHONJ, but I must say that Danielle is smarter than all the rest of them put together. She’s got brains plus street smarts. It’s all her psychological/emotional baggage that brings her (and us) down. I can’t judge what’s wrong with her…don’t have the credentials…but there is obviously something very wrong….some kind of untreated personality disorder…maybe even sociopathic. Since psychiatry is an art and not a science, there could be a difference of opinion as to what type of disorder she has. But I think we can all agree that her behavior is not normal. I don’t delight in her misfortunes and I wish her no harm. Can’t say the same for Teresa—can’t wait for that crook to get what’s fast coming her way!

          • Quincy IL says:

            I think you will enjoy this link, Maxine. It’s an old article, but the author has been on this board and may be here now.

            http://angelofdevs.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/rhonjs-danielle-staub-antisocial-personality-disorder/

            I think Danielle is off kilter too. When you get in a situation like the one Danielle is in because of this show, it’s hard to find a way out. The Manzo family and the cirlce of close friends were not looking for a new friend when Bravo chose Danielle to be a part of the cast.

            Did you watch Andy Cohen’s interaction with Danielle and Jeff? They don’t seem to like each other at all. Andy is like Jill in the sense that he enjoys dishing it out, but can’t take it.

            • Maxine49 says:

              Quincy, I’ve been on the blog re the diagnoses…and I’ve even commented. It’s a good blog, but I don’t think she’s posted anything new lately. I guess once you diagnose them, there’s not much else to say. I enjoyed reading it, though.

  55. Tootsie says:

    Hey People! Bethenny was just on the view. I thought she was going to be on on Thursday. My daughter called, long distance, to tell me it was today. No one can get a word in edgewise with those three chatter boxes on. Bethenny fought hard to be included in the conversation but like with Jill, they just talked over her. She was able to insert some conversation. I don’t watch the view for this reason, and it is a sacrifice for me to turn it on. But for Bethenny, I will gladly make the sacrifice.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I just happened to see it on here so I ran and turned on the TV. I just caught the Bryan Batt segment

    • Noreen says:

      You can watch full episodes on the view’s website. I totally agree about the talking over. And I cannot stand Elisabeth! She is so stupid it is painful.

  56. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I am never disappointed at the backpeddling and excuses made by the Manzo/Laurita clan. They always have excuses for the bad behaviour of their family and friends, all the while slamming Danielle. Last night Caroline blamed Danielle for going after “the kids”. AMAZING! DANIELLE DIDN’T GO AFTER ASHLEY!!! ASHLEY ATTACKED DANIELLE!!!

    Stupid ass Ashley takes not only a page from her mother’s book, she grabs chapters for her own use. This thick kid doesn’t understand why Danielle is mad at her. She feels it’s because Danielle’s mad at her mom. Really? Not because you pulled her hair out and have been stalking and slamming her on various media outlets. Both Ashley and her equally stupid mother are annoying to no end. They really hate Danielle this season because D knows where all the bodies are buried. Jac confided so much of her angst of the Manzo mob to Danielle and now they are enemies. Not a good look. Not now. Jac’s constant defense of Teresa, the impetus of her daughter’s legal problems, is moronic. But that is her way of being the victim by choosing bad friends. You know… Danielle, Teresa, Kim D, Kim G etc.

    As you can tell I am not a Manzo fan. My plea to BRAVO would be get rid of the Manzos and keep Danielle. I am sure they’ll keep Teresa so we can watch her rags to riches to rags drama. Get rid of Caroline. Dead luncheonmeat. Jac is so boring. Ashley so stupid. The 2 Kims chose the Manzos therefore it would be another gangbang against Danielle. Boring! So next season… Danielle, Teresa + 3 new wives. YAY!

  57. Noreen says:

    What a snooze fest! Thank God the Red Sox were playing out west and I could flip back and forth. I think I watch this lame excuse for a show because I enjoy reading the blog.

  58. Noreen says:

    And by blog I mean Lynn’s fabulous blog; not the bs they post on Bravo.

    • Snarkella says:

      LOL! Me too. If it weren’t for Lynn’s blog, and wanting to know what everyone’s commenting about, I wouldn’t bother watching it.

      • error404 says:

        I learned my lesson. After reading here, I decided to watch. An entire episode in the background while I did other things and STILL I was bored to tears!

        “Hi. Let’s not talk about Danielle. Good idea, I didn’t talk about Danielle all day yesterday. Me either, I went the whole day without mentioning Danielle once. Isn’t that right honey? Didn’t I say to you yesterday that I wasn’t talking about Danielle and then we had that nice chat about how I wasn’t talking about Danielle. I heard Danielle doesn’t even talk about Danielle! Good, Danielle hasn’t been a good friend to Danielle. Yes, after all the things Danielle did to herself, if I was Danielle, I’d cut Danielle out of my life. So, whacha wanna tawk about? Not Danille!”

        I’ll never get that hour of my life back.

        No, everything I need to know about RHONJ I get reading here, no need to actually watch that toxic cancer of a show.

  59. Olivia says:

    I had the View on my DVR while I ran errands and just watched it. Joy Behar is insufferable. She makes no bones about her dislike of the guests and she sure does not like Bethenny. Joy barely took part in any of the conversations but she basically ignored Bethenny the whole time she was on.

    I think that Joy vacations in the Hamptons where her doppleganger Jill plays throughout the summer and they are probably “friends”. Even so, she could barely disguise her dislike of Bethenny and put her down for the nursing remark. Joy is a hateful person and I once thought her rather amusing. Not so much anymore.

    And as much as Elizabeth gets on my last nerve, she probably could have shared some experiences with Bethenny since they both have babies and the nursing issue may have been explored much better as they both do it.

    No wonder I don’t watch the View. It is mostly populated by idiots.

  60. Capiche says:

    @Amber/Real Wife

    As to Jacqueline and her idiotic defenses (I just read her blog on Bravo. Apparently it was written a while ago bf the chase episode aired); I think Ashley has a point when it comes to her mom and maybe that is where a lot of her frustration stem from. She already said Jacqueline is two faced and she probably felt her mom was taking Danielle’s side during the whole Manzo vs. Danielle battle last season. And I must admit, Jacqueline seemed to defend Teresa more in last night’s episode than she did her own daughter! And to me, Teresa started the whole shitstorm! How she could blame Teresa’s actions on Danielle being around is beyond me. At the end of the day, maybe all Ashley wants is some love…from her mother, the Manzos, Blockbuster video guy, whoever! And like Danielle, she’s gonna find it in the wrong places.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      LOL

      She IS looking for love in all the wrong places. Looking for love in too many faces…
      She needs to stop the bs and get right. Her mom did a poor job of raising her so now it’s all on her which direction she takes.

  61. ilovelynn says:

    did bethenny tweet (twitter?) anything about her time on the view? I think someone should start a blog called ” I hate Joy Behar”.

    • Ellabean says:

      Fair enough.

      But it will be on the growing list of:

      I hate that talentless plagiarizing shrill mini-me -Palin Elisabeth Hasselbeck. She’s being sued you know.
      I hate the stoned has-been, celebrities- are- always- right- about- everything – Whoopi Goldberg.
      Sherri Shepard, the harmless but incredibly stupid glutonous sex addict Christian. She still thinks the world is flat.
      Barbara Walters is over and needs to retire.
      And their producer, Bill Geddie is a chauvinst pig misogynist Fox loving executive producer that has no business producing a show for women, with women.

      I feel better now. Thank you.

      • realityblows says:

        What is Elizabeth H. being sued for?

        • realityblows says:

          Nevermind, I googled it. Sued for writing a book about gluten free diet.

          • Ellabean says:

            Yep. And I am privy to some inside stuff on the merit of the lawsuit. Sue Hassett, an unknown well intended person who suffers form this disease, self published a book called Living With Celiac Disease. When she heard Hasselbeck say she had the disease on The View – she sent EH a copy as a gift to the studio – she has the signed receipt – from April 2009. Hasselbeck never thanked Hassett for the book. Or acknowledged her in any way in the book.

            Shortly thereafter, Hasselbeck came out with ” Living G- Free” – she completely plagiarized the book – the layout – many of the euphemisms – many examples. I ve seen the evidence – I’ve compared both books. Oh yeah – it’s plagiarized all right – EH stole intellectual property of a nobody thinking she could get away with it. This “case has merit”.

            Stay tuned.

            • Quincy IL says:

              That is an incredibly stupid thing to do, With the internet, anyone can find out anything.

      • jillz68 says:

        Your post made me laugh! I DO watch The View and cannot wait for Kathy Griffin’s new act with all the content
        Elisabitch gave her yesterday. Just handed it to her on a silver platter! I have not checked in with Twitter.
        Anyone follow Kathy? Did she respond to the comments from the show?

        I am looking forward to the show today.

        Back to NJ. Bravo, PLEASE film the Sheriff coming to kick out the Guidices. Perhaps the auction for a Lost
        Footage ep? We earned it for watching this trainwreck!!! Those feral children don’t stand a chance. T and J have spent all their money. Who is going to bail these
        girls out of jail in a few years?

        • Ellabean says:

          Thank Jillz68 – kindred spirits in View dislike, I see.
          Yep, Hasselbeck amped up the Griifin war yesterday – calling her “scum” on the show. In Kathy’s words from her appearance last month on the View where Hasselbeck made a silly and failed attempted to dis KG on air – but came off as a cocky unprofessional and petulant child (yawning at Kathy’s schtick etc). Wow did that go viral.

          Yep – me too – waiting for Kathy to incorporate it into her act. In Kathy’s words to Hasselbeck last month – on the show itself: “Bring it, Elisabeth. You know I live for this.”

          It was heaven.

        • iwannabeanarchy says:

          I’m going to see Kathy Griffin perform this weekend in Atlantic City. I definitely expect to hear some jokes about Elisabeth. Elisabeth is such an idiot, she’s practically writing material for Kathy by picking fights with her.

          • Snarkella says:

            I’m going to see her August 13 in Tampa. Woohoo!

          • hey iwanna I’ll “see ” you there! Kathy Griffin friday nite@ The Borgata!!! my hubby got me tickets for my b-day!! said he had to pull every string he had. wish i knew my hubs had strings, i woulda started pulling them years ago! Hah!
            anyway, can you tell I’m happy?!

      • Tootsie says:

        Ellabean – good blog but please, let’s not even mention political personalities. That could bring us all to a way different place and damage Lynn’s blog. Even a small reference can get some peoples blood boiling. Thanks.

        • Ellabean says:

          I hear ya Tootsie . Point Taken. Will try to watch that. I’ts my View spew that gets me going’…:)

        • ShyAsrai says:

          i second that, tootsie. thanks for the reminder that people are NOT all of the same political bent and the subject can be as provoking or insulting as dissing someone’s religion, sexuality etc etc

        • error404 says:

          it’s kinda hard though, as EH makes her political views 110%of her public persona. Thank God she wasn’t on today! That would be like asking someone to do a book report on Jesus without mentioning his religious views. lol

      • Noreen says:

        Ellabean, you are my hero. I could not have said it better. I used to love Joy but she has gotten so mean and cold. And why is it that people who are snarky don’t like that in other people. And one thing to add to Bethenny’s list of talents – she can listen!! Yes, she can talk, talk, talk but she has the skill to close her mouth and hear the other side. A skill the ladies on the View are lacking.

        • Ellabean says:

          You took the words right out of my mouth, Noreen! Listening is not what the View hosts do anymore. Maybe Barbara W. still does.

          But Bethenny did indeed “listen” today – not just lay in waiting to ask her next scripted question.

      • twoile says:

        Wow great!

  62. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Also…

    Following Caroline’s defense of Ashley, wouldn’t it be totally appropriate and understood if Christine attacked Ashley? NOT RIGHT but CORRECT?

    Ashley attacked Danielle because she “thought” D hit her mom. Ashley actually attacked Danielle. Would it be understood and accepted, by Caroline and the Manzos, if Christine surprised Ashley and attacked her with a group of friends? I mean, if Christine’s intent was to protect her mom from a lunatic, and defend her mom’s honor, would the Manzos understand and say Ashley deserved the beat down? Ashley outweighs Christine by 50lbs, so if she gets a little help from her friends is it okay?Ashley helped Teresa and Jac by playing enforcer. So if Christine and friends had jumped Ashley would the Manzos call it a day or would they want to press charges? Charges for sure. By the way, the above fantasy scenario is just that, because Danielle’s daughters are well behaved and intelligent. Butterbean Ashley would love a go at that lovely girl Christine. However, she won’t do it because she was stopped by Danielle and the court system. Had Danielle not pressed charges I am sure that bully Ashley would’ve attacked Christine not only online but physically also. Good job Danielle. She put the brakes on a potential runaway train.

    And another point, LOL, there’s alot of talk about Danielle “talking” to her daughters so freely. That seems to be the case with all the housewives of New Jersey. All these kids are privy to all that is going down. Maybe Danielle does over share with her kids, but they seem to be handling this role as their mom’s confidantes well. They talk her off the ledge and rear her in when necessary. Is it okay? Not really but that’s how it’s going down. Danielle’s daughters are discreet, not openly mocking, slandering and hating adults like Jac’s kids with Ashley v. Danielle, also CJ called the pig Danielle. Teresa’s Gia claiming she’s too pretty to work mocking Danielle’s words is more proof that these kids are listening and understanding the context of their words. TMI

    • Snarkella says:

      Good point about the kids. Danielle is not the only who’s letting the kids in on adult business. That’s evident from the examples you gave.

  63. Buffywood says:

    Wow,Ashely’s blog… The only thing I see here are excuses, lies to explain what the viewer could clearly see for themselves, and blame for others for Ashley’s own actions. Thank god I don’t know Ashley, will never know Ashley, or have to actually speak to Ashley. As for parenting her; I think we are seeing too little too late. She has no clue how horrible she is, her parents are not tough enough, and she doesn’t listen to anyone (her aunt Caroline and her boyfriend) who tries to tell her the truth about herself. Pure and simply she is a loser who will always be a loser. She probably couldn’t look up term “personal Responsibility” in a dictionary if she tried.

    • Snarkella says:

      I agree, as Lynn said in her blog, Ashley wasn’t able to remove the shit-eating grin from her face when she was discussing the hair pulling incident with Caroline and Jacq. How stupid is that kid?

  64. dsc60 says:

    get this! i just saw an ad for RH of Atlanta. it’s coming to daytime – NBC!

  65. error404 says:

    re: Joy and breastfeeding.

    I just hate when people try to dumb down the message.

    B had a valid point that it’s not all a happy cake walk with ponies and rainbows for everyone. Like most things in life, it’s very “real”.

    I think Joy’s point was that it’s healthy to breastfeed and too many people don’t, so if a celebrity says it’s hard, the stupid Ashley Holmes types of the world will not even bother trying. Well, I for one am sick to death of the dumbing down of society just so the slow people can keep up. Pay attention puhlllease! If the TGs of the world can’t follow, then they can just tune in to the stupid channel thank you, and let the adults talk amongst themselves.

    Joy was definitely channeling Kiki with this message of “cartwheels are free and breastfeeding is the baby Jesus’ special gift to good mommies”

    • MAMAZ says:

      It’s that type of message that leaves some young mothers feeling inadequate. It did to me.

  66. Buffywood says:

    Does the RHNJ make anyone else sad? Initially when it came on it was “OK”. Later it became almost comical how these “woman” behaved. Honestly now I just find the whole thing sad. It is sad that grown women can spend like money is water and then apparently have no remorse about it and continue to try and cover her tracks with lies. It is sad that people can resort to violence without feeling any guilt and again try to justify their behavior with lies. It is sad when people with no apparent parenting skills or a desire to raise responsible children continue to breed. It makes me sad to think that in society not only is this now acceptable, but should be celebrated by sharing with the world for “The largest Ratings Ever”. It actually makes me concerned for the future. The fact that these women don’t even see themselves as they really are is not just sad, it’s a little scary. Maybe Dina saw the light and left. I can only hope that Bravo has as well and puts an end to this.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It is past sad. When if first came on I was in disbelief that these women acted like their lives were so fabulous – I saw tacky, materialistic, uneducated and boring lives but found I could laugh at it. Then it got hateful, gossipy and creepy. Now it is angry, disrespectful and going criminal – must miss TV!

  67. Rabble Rouser says:

    I couldn’t contain my boredom and read Ashely’s blog. I think ‘fat arms’ are the least of her worries. She’s an idiot- pure and simple.

    I wrote a response to her, which I am sure Bravo won’t publish so here it is..

    I think Alec Baldwin said it best

    “You are rude, thoughtless little pig”.

    Grow up Ashley and stop making pathetic excuses for your behavior. If you really think that Danielle is trying to take you all down- she didn’t “FAIL” as you claim.

    Your step-dad has filed for bankruptcy.

    The Giudice’s have file for bankruptcy-but will probably have it thrown out and lose EVERYTHING. Joe will probably end up in prison.

    Dina is no longer on the show.

    Albie flunked out of law school.

    And you my dear…

    Have a criminal record.

    I’d have to call that a WIN.

  68. Rabble Rouser says:

    Haha

    Teresa’s blog is up and she is bragging about the Pizzeria and how it’s open for business-and that Joe can be found working there.

    What a dolt.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      So someone else put up the money, owns the property and Joe manages a pizza joint who is likley getting free housing out of the deal – yeah that is something to brag about Dumbzilla…..

      • vilzvet says:

        Hmmm, so he is spending alot of time in the pizzeria and not in his construction business…makes you wonder if it went belly-up. Teresa still has not a word about her legal troubles, everything is just peachy it seems in her world. How absurd to keep that stone face on.

  69. emt2 says:

    I didn’t realize that Alex was so chummy with Caroline.

    This is what she wrote on Twitter:

    How was #RHONJ tonight? Was with Caroline & Albie in person earlier but haven’t seen tonight’s ep yet about 14 hours ago via Echofon

    I don’t why this is unsettling for me.

    • error404 says:

      Silex and RHONJ cast have both been doing a lot of Bravo promotion lately.

      They were in the same room for a few minutes does not = they’re bffs braiding each others hair and talking about boys in a sleepover

      • emt2 says:

        True. I just realized that.

        I just remembered that when speaking with Alex at a signing, she said that she was becoming more and more friendly with Caroline and that she really likes Teresa but it’s clear that Teresa is a “follower.”

    • emt2 says:

      Well, to be fair Alex was hanging out with Simon, Albie, Caroline, Andy and Patti Stranger at a Jeff Lewis event.

      But, I am a little perplexed by Alex’s relationship with some of the Jersey women.

      • error404 says:

        people can be charming, especially 1 on 1.

        Kelly Ripa said on WWHL that she’d met Jill several times and she seemed really nice, not all all like what she was like on the show

        it’s doesn’t surprise me that Caroline can charm a snake or two.. how the heck else did 5 grifters get their own tv show and continue to be ‘stars’ even after their criminal activity has been exposed!

  70. Snarkella says:

    So Jac’s husband is filing for bankruptcy also?

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      The story is the clothing business he and his brother owned has filed. It’s no wonder when they pay for lavish parties and hire Jay-Z to entertain.

      • error404 says:

        brother? oh yes, the brother than Caroline has disowned. but her and her family are as thick as thieves! Stupid us, we thought the ‘thick” part was the truth, turns out it’s the “thieves” part that’s real lol

        • viki55 says:

          ROFL

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I would love to find out the story behind all of that.

          Is that brother is the black sheep of the family? From the obituary someone posted after the death of his son, it looks like he was at odds with many of his siblings and even his parents.

        • tuzentswurth says:

          “turns out it’s the “thieves” part that’s real”
          Brilliant!

  71. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wondering – if someone hit/attacked my mom….first, I would go find my MOM to make sure she was alright!! I would not first go and cowardly attack someone from behind and then brag about it. There is jail in Ashley’s future because she is not remorseful, does not learn any valuable life lessons and is supported in her deviant behavior by her “loving” family! Her excuses are lame and the film tells a very different story – it’s pathetic to watch and nauseating to read.

    Wondering – if I knew chaos was about to break out (Teresa wanting to talk to Danielle) would I sit and watch it or go directly to find my daughter and get her out of there knowing how immature she was???? I would not sit and watch my friend cause a scene, start a riot and then lie to the police!

    News flash: My daughter would not be modeling there and with the known facts that she hates Danielle, continues to bait Danielle and is not trustworthy or mature that is a simple, slamdunk parenting decision. I would not be there either because I would be with my daughter who continues to make poor choices! Danielle and Teresa are grown up and can do whatever they want but my daughter has to come first and we all know that Bravo does not make you do anything you don’t want to do!

    This show is not entertaining – these children/young adults should not be on this show because the behavioral examples their parents are giving are not good ones. They are showing their kids that you can start fights and lie about your part in it! Teresa is proud that her daughters are “fighters”? Let’s see what happens when the school they attend kick them out for fighting! It is bad enough to see grownups act this way – it is just plain sad to see their children copy their attitudes and behavior.

    Lynn, hope you are feeling better today!

  72. anitabee says:

    Can you really ever escape your past? I guess not if you sign on to do a Reality TV show when most of the people in your past hate your guts.

    I really want to know if Danielle cares more about her need for attention than the safety of her two young girls.

    Danielle, Danielle, Danielle — when will you ever learn?

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/reality-zen-with-jenn/2010/07/ding-dong-danielle-columbia-drug-cartel-calling.html

    • error404 says:

      please, Danielle is wanted by a columbian drug cartel like president clinton keeps calling me up for a date despite the restraining order. we all can make fabulous fantasies in our heads. *poof* now the mafia is after me because Peter Lawford admitted to me during sex that JFK had the mob bump off Marilyn Monroe.
      Don’t tell anyone where I live, but visit my blog http://sixpondmeadow.com/10520/

  73. moriasheehan says:

    Lynn, is tweetm a nutcase? she is tweeting that she is receiving texts of carolines taped confessions from the church secretary of st elizabeths. WTF????

    • I think most people think she is a nutcase or someone seriously troubled and desperate for attention.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      WTH

      If 600 people are dopey enough to stand in line to meet Teresa, I would guess that Tweet “Mad” Maxine is dopey enough to make up stories like this. Sadly, I am sure there will be fools that would believe it.

    • error404 says:

      LOL

      anyone taking bets on how long before TM gets committed?

      • moriasheehan says:

        i feel bad for caroline, i don’t like her, but no one should have the lies about her confession be spread around. confession is sacrosanct, by Catholic church law. whether you believe in Catholicism or not, let’s have mutual respect for peoples beliefs.

        • MAMAZ says:

          It’s called Reconciliation now not Confession. Any church secretary would know that. They are not taped by the priest and the secretary has no idea what is said.
          Maxine is a loon.

        • I think the vast majority of people would automatically know that that was a lie. I’m not Catholic, but I knew that confessions aren’t taped.

          I don’t even read what that twerp maxine tweets. Only when someone posts a tweet of hers do I sometimes read it. And it’s always a waste of my time. I think ignoring her completely is the best thing to do. Any time someone mentions a tweet of hers, she wins by gaining the attention she seemingly craves. Maxine has no significance in my world whatsoever. Her word isn’t reliable and she is unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

  74. error404 says:

    “Bethenny Frankel big day! i am now at a taping with Emeril for his show “Fresh Food Fast” on the Cooking Channel. Will let you all know when it will air!”

    OMG, bitch is doing two shows in one day! lol

  75. Noreen says:

    Does anyone know what marathon Kelly Bensimon is running in to raise money for the American Cancer Society? I believe it is in November in NYC. The reason I ask is that I know someone who is running and raising money for that marathon and you can go on the website and search for an athelete and make a donation. I did this for my friend, but cannot find her listed as an athelete. I don’t want to accuse her of something and than find out I am confusing marathons, but I guess I take what she tweets with a grain of salt. Like part of proceeds from her feather brained earrings going to charity, etc. How do we really know? There is something sad and lonely about her tweeting to sell her goods or post a youtube workout. When the others do it, like Bethenny, Ramona and Alex, I feel like they have a PR team working with them and it is a professional undertaking. With Kelly, it feels like a 14 year old girl trying to make money so she can go on a school field trip. These are the important issues that keep me up at night. Any one know any thing??
    Thanks!

    • Ellabean says:

      I didn’t see Kelly’e tweet about this – but the New York City Marathon is always the first weekend of November. And you have to apply to get in and get registered (get a number) – it’s not that easy – literally thousands of people from around the world apply annually to his particular marathon.

      But then again, maybe KiKi just tells them that “she wants in and would do amazing things to help them if they let her in” like she told the Dean at Columbia to let her in and bypass the application procedure.

      And her tweets are so adolescent sounding.

      • Noreen says:

        Thanks! Yes, it is the NYC Marathon. I checked with my friend and if you don’t qualify you can get in with charitable donations and that is what he is doing. I think it is $2500 or $3500 entry to charity (what a great idea way to raise money). So where is Kiki’s page? I believe she has claimed she is doing it to raise money for the American Cancer Society. Oh well, maybe she is doing it privately.

        Thanks for the info Ellabean. (My nickname with my family was always Bean.)

        • Ellabean says:

          You’re welcome. “Bean” is an endearment on this end too.
          Let’s keep an eye out for this Kelly marathon charity “thing” (I was gong to use the word ruse – but I’ll hold off).

          There’s lots of races -maybe its something out in the Hamptons this summer. But why wouldn’t Kelly supply more info?

          • Noreen says:

            Hey Bean 🙂

            That was my feeling. If she was raising money wouldn’t she twitter people to support her? But maybe she has just asked close friends or paid the fee herself. I don’t want to prejudge but something sees amiss.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            I have a cat named Bean and it was what I called my son when he was born! Beans Rule!

  76. DesertGal says:

    Wow, TweetMaxine just gets stupider and sleazier by the minute.

    The Catholic Church neither tapes nor transcribes confessions…ever. The anonymity of the confessional is sacrosanct within the Church.

    I have to agree that Caroline doesn’t deserve to have lies about her “confessions” spread around. Ya gotta admit, TM is one creepy gal…

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      TweetMaxine has a wild imagination. I don’t follow her on Twitter but my sister does and she retweets TweetMaxine occasionally. Last week, TweetMaxine tweeted that Caroline ordered a hit on Danielle. There are people who believe the things that Tweetmaxine tweets and that is scary 😦

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        This is the same twit who said Bethany had a baby boy isn’t it?

        • icantstandthetoxicity says:

          Yes, it’s the same person. She claimed she was receiving text messages from the hospital and she also claimed that she had a copy of the sonogram. I hope the hospital sues her.

  77. mamecastle says:

    I haven’t been reading the blog as religiously as I should, just can’t get into New Jersey! However, have you all seen this freak show? http://idonotlikelynnhudson.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/i-hate-alex-mccord-7-20-2010/
    A Kelly apologist, a rare bird indeed!

    • Char212 says:

      Yes, we’ve all seen it. It’s a pathetic blog by a bitter jealous person. We just ignore it.

      • vilzvet says:

        Looks like everyone else is ignoring it, there are no comments! LOL! And that was indeed a horror show to skim through!

      • tuzentswurth says:

        A bitter, jealous person? I think you are giving her too much credit. She is completely clueless. A true kindred spirit for KKB, that moron.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      I started to read this mamecastle, it is hysterically funny. That lady is as crazy as KKB! Couldn’t finish it but did notice…no responses. I wonder if anybody reads it. Jill was set up to make B look good? There is a leap and a stretch I can’t fathom. Wow……bag of rocks?

    • Jules says:

      Yes, we have seen it. I just went to it, and apparenty there is an updated blog from yestreday. Interesting thing is, there are zero comments. Oh, I am quite sure people have commented, but unlike Lynn, Gwen screens her comments, and won’t post anything that doesn’t support her position. Telling I think, because clearly no one agrees with her.

    • Maxine49 says:

      I have tried commenting there, but she deletes my posts. I was the only post there for a few hours…then it was gone, gone, gone. She ill only post favorable comments. What a loser!

  78. Wendy says:

    Hello everyone.

    Re: Lynn’s post about the show being staged, setup, scripted. So true. Did you notice on Andy’s show, Danielle referred to herself as a “character” who is a villian. Let’s put some “real” back in reality tv, please. Film the auction at Teresa’s. Show the consequences from this woman’s reckless spending. Work at the pizzeria, move into the apartment with the “sunroof” (lol) Show some remorse Teresa!

    One more thing, totally agreed with Andy’s Jackhole of the week!

    • Noreen says:

      Bravo needs to re-do their contracts and inform people before they sign up that they cannot later say they were just actors or characters. We all it’s not true but it irks me to hear idiots like Danielle and Kelly use it as an excuse. OMG, I have got to do some work – I think I am still on the payroll.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Andy definately deserves a Jackhole of the week – but a tanning obsession would not be the real reason!

  79. Noreen says:

    Alex’s guest blog is up on Bravo. What a class act!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      IMO, it didn’t come across as all that classy to me. It came across as strangely sympathetic (although not nearly as much as the last blog) towards women who behaved like criminals.

      I would love to know what is so ‘debatable’ about having criminal charges filed against someone who assaulted you, especially since there is a history there. It says that the problem has escalated to the point where the law does need step in.

      • DesertGal says:

        I don’t disagree with you that pressing charges against someone who assaulted you isn’t “debatable”, especially when the person subsequently makes it clear that they just don’t get that they did something wrong.

        But, Alex was clear in pointing out that ALL the women behaved badly at the country club, so I’m not sure where she is being ‘strangely sympathetic’.

        Teresa should have just let it go. Jac should have just left without T. as soon as she realized that T. was going to get in D’s face. I can almost guarantee that T. would have followed Jac if Jac had insisted on leaving before D. appeared. Danielle should have just kept walking and not allowed Kim G. to persuade her to return. Better yet, Danielle should never have gone in the first place. Ashley should have just…well, behaved like anyone but the spoiled brat she is.

        Jac keeps talking, talking, talking about how “Danielle says this” and “Danielle says that”. I mean, her blogs are 4 or 5 pages of Danielle, Danielle, Danielle. The problem isn’t just that Danielle spreads rumors, it’s also that these women put too much importance in the rumors she spreads. They just keep feeding the attention whore and then switching to victim mode themselves every time they hear something new.

        I’d love to line them all up and tell them to quit the show and get on with their real lives, because they are boring as hell.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I think the very fact that Alex would suggest that it’s ‘debatable’ denotes at least an ounce of sympathy. Coming of the heels of her last blog, yes I stand by my opinion that it is indeed strangely sympathetic. (Of course, you are free to disagree. I don’t take differences of opinions as personal attacks and I am sure you don’t either ;))

          I am by no means a fan of Danielle, but I really don’t think her allowing Kim G. to have her turn around and reply to Teresa added to the drama. I think had Danielle kept on walking Teresa would have followed her..”Yo where you going bitch? Didincha hear me. I said Hell-O. I’m bee-ing nice”.

          I agree with you about Jack-hole-lyn’s blogs. No wonder her kid is so confused. The shit apple don’t fall far from the shit tree.

          Her and Ass-ly going on and on about the hair- and how come if she pulled it out ‘how come she didn’t have any in her hand?’. How about it’s because she dropped it- too bad too because I am sure “Aunt Dina” could have made a nice little voodoo doll with it.

          “Why did she collect it anyway? Ewww gross”. It’s called EVIDENCE you idiots. I would have thought with their type of ‘family connections’ they would know a thing or two about cleaning or should I say cleansing a crime scene.

      • emt2 says:

        I agree. Why would she single out Christine’s facial expression when Danielle got into the ring to box and not saying anything about any of the other children? (BTW, it’s interesting that everyone forgets that it was the boxing teacher who started the whole Teresa and Jacqueline names for each hand and was goading Danielle on.)

        I think everyone needs to drop the whole woe are Danielle’s kids act. No one really cares if they are happy or not. Let’s be honest. They just want to talk about how horrible Danielle is and they can do that without mentioning her kids.

        The only kid that deserved to be mentioned was Ashley because of her vicious physical attack on Danielle, with her mother cheering her on, btw (Yeah, Danielle. What about your felony?!!!!Danielle you are a liar and a b*tch!!!)

        • Quincy IL says:

          Christine didn’t want her mom to use the names of the women when she hit the gloves. I think she is an intelligent young lady and she knows her mother is crazy. Christine has a lot in common with Bethenny.

      • emt2 says:

        I agree about her weird sympathy. Danielle should have pressed charges. End of story. There is nothing debatable about being physically assaulted and I think that had Danielle’s kid or Danielle been the aggressor, everyone would be calling for the death penalty!

  80. boston02127 says:

    Don’t play with us Zarin!

    Jill’s tweet: Had perfect day. Breakfast at Candy Kitchen and sat by pool to catch up on reading. I never want to work again. Why would I want to?

    • Noreen says:

      I love it. This must be her new M.O.: Bethenny’s a working class slob who has to work and I am a rich spoiled princess who can sit by the pool. Sure Jill, that’s the reason we don’t see your face anymore, because you chose exile, not that you were forced into it. She is starting to believe her own tweets.

    • Wendy says:

      Boston–Thanks for the reality (tv) check. All this talk about the NJ idiots and I got side tracked. Yup. Still hate Jill Zarin. Check.

    • Wendy says:

      Boston–Thanks for the reality (tv) check. Got side tracked by the NJ idiots. Almost forgot, Still hate Jill Zarin. Check.

    • Maryla says:

      Curious if this is a prelude to Bravo not resigning her to season IV? Now she can come back and say, “see i said back in July that i was happier not working.”

      I see a JZ setup going on here.

  81. boston02127 says:

    Caroline Manzo – Caroline’s husband Albert Manzo has been involved in over 30 judgments and liens (one brought on by a family member) since the early ’90s up until two years ago . Throughout the ’90s and into 2000, there were several judgments against Caroline for nonpayment of hospital and doctors’ bills, as well another judgment involving “Church Chronicle Publishing.”
    Caroline Manzo – Caroline’s husband Albert Manzo has been involved in over 30 judgments and liens (one brought on by a family member) since the early ’90s up until two years ago . Throughout the ’90s and into 2000, there were several judgments against Caroline for nonpayment of hospital and doctors’ bills, as well another judgment involving “Church Chronicle Publishing.”

    http://www.realitytea.com/tag/chris-laurita/

    • boston02127 says:

      Sorry for the double posting on the same post.

      • boston02127 says:

        I didn’t know this either about Caroline.
        Caroline is the owner of two businesses: Opus Properties, a real estate firm, and a children’s accessories line.
        Does anyone know the name of the children’s line?

    • DesertGal says:

      I can’t comment on the Manzo’s, because the specifics of these claims aren’t listed, but the next one actually looks pretty tame:

      Jacqueline Laurita – Similar to Dina, Jacqueline also seems to have a clean financial slate. However as we reported this week, the company of Jacqueline’s husband, Chris Laurita, filed for bankrupty last year. The company, Signature Apparel Group LLC, was behind the Rocawear and Eve’s Fetish clothing brands. The financial issues found on the Lauritas were for the years 1988 and 1990.

      United Jersey bank successfully won a judgment against Chris for over $18,000 in 1988.
      American Express also successfully won a judgment against Chris for almost $3000 in 1990.

      Two judgments, totaling $21,000 which occurred 20+ years ago and which he has probably paid off long since really aren’t that big a deal. And that $18,000 looks like a car loan he defaulted on-not all that unusual for a guy in his early 20’s to buy more car than he can really afford.

      As for the bankruptcy of his apparel group, well, who knows? The economy sucks, buyers are fickle, and clothing lines are notoriously unstable as an investment. Can’t really tar Chris with the Giudice’s brush without more details.

      • boston02127 says:

        @DesertGal-I think I was just more surprised that the Manzo’s would ever had anything against them.

        • DesertGal says:

          Aside from the hospital and doctor bills that Caroline apparently owed, that really didn’t surprise me – because of the Brownstone.

          I have friends who have owned a similar hotel/restaurant/banquet facility at South Lake Tahoe for years, and they’ve had numerous judgments for and against them. It is part and parcel of owning that type of business. They’ve sued vendors, vendors have sued them, guests have fallen on the ice and sued, wedding couples haven’t liked some detail of their wedding and sued. Litigation is a side effect of that type of business.

    • that was interesting. but not like teresa———–11milion is a hard number to pass. I am so disgusted by them..
      Boston,,by the time you are Teresas age..there will be no money left anywhere for you or your children. thanks to the crooks of the world like them. selfish, self absorbed, stupid, and”self-entitled” pigs of the system “more, more, i need more granite! only 80% of the clothes in my closet still have the tags on..I need more.”
      Self-entitled, self absorbed, they make me sick.
      They are the reason we have the highest real estate taxes. corruption. they lie, they cheat, I pay.
      My favorite saying “what goes around comes around” we all know it’s true.
      I HAVE to believe there is no way they will get away with 11 million debt.
      There is still $$ owed on the materials for that grotesque house. The architect has still not been paid!
      My home. 3800 sq. feet. 15 years old my DREAM house,$ 23,000 a year, taxes. This is central New Jersey, not Bergen County where these women live. they pay at least 1/3 more than me. Bergen County is really just an extension of New York………….nothing about it is relative to NJ. Im not kidding.
      Who’s going to pay that debt that T owes? we are. sad but true.

  82. Quincy IL says:

    I was looking at the DC promos. I think they will be wearing nice clothes. So far..NYC is winning in my opinion. Are the women going to fancy society wives or political wives? This show is going to be more than women having lunch.

    • Snarkella says:

      I may be in the minority, but I’m looking forward to the DC Housewives. First of all, they had me at DC. Secondly, it looks like they might have more to do than sit around the kitchen. Let’s hope so anyway.

  83. MickeyMouth says:

    Awww — Sonja tweeted me a message – should I say something back?

    Mickey I love that u sense old world looks for me. Blushing! Thanks for u kind thoughts RT @BravoTVLove: RT @SonjatMorgan @Real_Housewives @BravoTVLove RT @MickeyMouth1: @sonjatmorgan @bravoandy More #RHONY Masterpiece (cont) http://tl.gd/2jm2vq

  84. Zoey says:

    Here’s a link to The View if anyone wants to join me in voicing their opinion of today’s show. Mine will be negative about kill-Joy.

    http://theview.abc.go.com/contact_us

    • realityblows says:

      I wrote to The View and told them “I only watch The View when someone I enjoy is a guest because Joy is an unsufferable beeyotch. I was thrilled to see Bethenny Frankel is so above her in class that she acted like the bad treatment wasn’t occuring.” I’ve never thought of contacting a show before but it sure felt good even if it makes no impact 😀 , so thanks for the link!

  85. boston02127 says:

    Apparently Jill likes Andy. Jill’s tweet: To my TV rabbi..@bravoandy Happy Birthday! Thank u for everything. Wishing you much nachas! Luv Jill

    Luann’s tweet: Going to dinner with Jill tonight!

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  87. WALLETSNIFFERJILLZARiN says:

    Did anyone catch Bethenny on the View today? It seem like Joy was kind of rude to her when Bethenny said certain things. In my eyes Joy/Jill what is the difference. Both jealous women and says things when they are totally inappropriate. Bethenny held her own though and did a great job. I thought she was suppose to be on Thursday (she still might be) glad I caught today’s show. I bet Jill had to be committed after watching her.

    NJ gals goodgolly I can no longer watch that show. I am so tired of Manielle,Teresa and the Kims. Jacqueline is okay but my goodness naive. Teresas outfits are way out there and are not flattering at all. I have always said that alarms should go off when people buy clothing that does not look good on them. Real tired of seeing her camel hoof (no longer a toe) it is gross.

    I just want to know where Bravo got the thugs. If someone is on parole wouldn’t you think the parole officer would get involved when the mafia wanabe was threating violence. Am I missing something?

    Thanks for the blog Lynn read it everyday.

  88. kats2 says:

    Hi Guys!!!

    I’ve missed a lot need to play catch up. I’m actually out of town and finally have some down time. I didn’t watch NJ HW and it sounds like I didn’t miss anything. But Lynn’s recap makes me want to just see the clothes the Giudice’s were wearing. So Saint Albie got his letter, now let’s see if Caroline can buy his Law degree (his situation is only going to get harder, but I’m sure they are working on some fresh excuses and people to blame). Can’t wait to see how many times it takes him to pass the BAR or if the family will get caught trying to pay someone off.

    (BTW anyone with a learning disability should not take this as an insult, I have one too. I don’t trust the Manzo’s and I have seen enough of Caroline making excuses for her everyone in her family.)

  89. Silly String says:

    Any more news on the bankruptcy denial?

  90. Quincy IL says:

    Somewhere in the mass of posts, someone mentioned that NJ had a promo where Christine’s dad shows up at a birthday party. I finally saw it. He does look like the father of Danielle’s girls and a little like Jon Voight to me. It was totally weird to have a large man carry the daughter out on his shoulder. She must have been mortified.
    Danielle must have come up with that idea. Ceasar and his Queen carried out by slaves. That fits Danielle’s idea of elegance.

  91. Dani says:

    Zoey thank you for the link to The View. I was so excited that Bethenny was going to be on the show. I had to work today so I recorded the show. The first thing that I did when I got home was to sit down and watch it. I was appalled at the way that Joy answered Bethenny in regards to breast feeding. I very rarely watch this show because I can’t stand Elisabeth. I thought I was watching Jill Zarin herself when Joy was talking. She was downright rude to Bethenny. I thought Bethenny did a great job, she new about the other guests, asked great questions and didn’t look at her cards at all. I will be voicing my opinion in regards to Joy. I thought she was extremely nasty to Bethenny on her show a few weeks ago and now this. I think that Joy and Jill make a great team they are both nasty, vicious, jealous woman.

    • Zoey says:

      You’re welcome Dani. I’d love to see them get flooded with angry mail toward Joy. I almost just typed Jill! To me it makes Joy look so foolish and unprofessional.

      • Dani says:

        I agree, you can certainly be friends with someone and be civil to the person they are having a disagreement with. It does make her look very unprofessional. She was rude when Bethenny was on her show and I was hoping that it had been just a bad day for Joy. Guess not because today she was rude again.

        • ShyAsrai says:

          nope. that’s Joy Behar. she CANNOT be civil to anyone she thinks lives a life with different opinions and views than her, especially politically. she is a nasty, nasty piece of work and known for making really stupid, specious pronouncements.

          For instance, she claimed the term “Black Friday” was racist. WTF? “Black Friday” refers to being in the black vs. being in the red – a big fat positive in accounting terms.

          but what she has against Bethenny I can’t imagine.

          and FFS, who in their right mind would dispute a nursing mother’s statement that it’s difficult?

          i have hated JB for years.

          • BamaBelle says:

            I agree, Shy…

            Joy Behar is VICIOUS if you have different opinions/beliefs than hers, especially political… she thinks her way-is the ONLY way, and her opinion-is the ONLY opinion! I won’t watch the The View no matter who the guest!

            I believe her poor treatment of Bethenny is because of Jill-Joy and Jill are friends-birds of a feather flock together!

  92. tweetybird says:

    Missed jersey last nite. How do I catch WWH?

    • boston02127 says:

      tweetybird—You can watch WWH by going to any bar and watching a hooker, a dork and one normal person have drinks together. The hooker won’t answer anything. The dork drinks. And the one normal guy thinks to himself, what the hell am I doing here.
      You missed absolutely nothing.

    • Zoey says:

      Girl, I don’t know, but I know you’d be wasting your time. It was a total dud.

  93. Zoey says:

    Ok I have a scenario and a question for you smart ladies. (Any guys here?) If Teresa and Joe lose all of their fancy schmancy stuff, and have to downsize big time, do you think she’ll stay with him?
    I can’t picture her being satisfied with an average house, though Lord knows where she gets the nerve to be snooty.

    Anyone know if her family had money or how she was raised? (Besides kinda trashily. Yeah, it’s a new word:)

    • boston02127 says:

      I think she’d be lost without him. They each have half a brain. They need each other to equal out one full brain so they can figure out how to do things such as turning on faucets, turning doorknobs. etc.

    • Jenni says:

      LOL, if they divored, would she get custody of half the debt? Wouldn’t be able to count on much child support…. And who would she be able to latch onto next?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It would seem if she didn’t stay with him then she would have to get a JOB!

    • Jenni says:

      LOL, yes, and we all know she’s just to pretty for that!

      • Zoey says:

        Hahaha. Good answers ladies. I agree with the idea that they are two morons joined at the hip, but I also can’t see her living over the pizza parlor. Should be interesting….

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think she had a pretty modest upbringing given that her parents were immigrants ‘that came here with nothing’ and that she is ‘from Patterson biotch’.

      My guess is she would stay with Joe.

      Even if left him, she better get use to the fact that the money is gone.

      I don’t think she is nearly have the commodity she thinks she is. I can’t imagine a single guy with money would be all that interested in a woman with 4 kids under 8, a voice that makes Fran Drescher sound like an angel and a face that looks like a chimp stole a tube of lipstick and went crazy.

      • Zoey says:

        Lolololol!!! An ape with lipstick, ha! Not too far off. I wonder what she really looks like without all that crap on her face?

  94. Dani says:

    No, I don’t think she will stay with him she is to money hungry.

    • error404 says:

      Please. Let me explain TG for you: she would take a bullet for her man. She’s never been with anyone else, her values are from the dark ages, she makes Betty Crocker look like a radical feminist, her off-the-boat father would personally knife her if she left the father of her children, but he has no worries, TG is the type of girl who’d serve time for her man. If he smacks her a bit, it’s only because he loves her so much. She a Joey are true loves, like Romeo and Juliette, and anyone who says differently can step outside cause little T’s gonna kick your @#$in ass into next tuesday.

      Besides, they moved into the marble mausoleum like yesterday, so it’s like she were borned there or nothin.

      • boston02127 says:

        Error–Luv’d your last two vid’s. They were great. Your dog is so cute.

          • MickeyMouth says:

            Do you shave her? I keep my two Blenheim’s hair really short. I know in show they would kill me for doing something like that, but I don’t show them, and they shed A LOT. They really are the most lovable dogs and she’s a cutie.

            • error404 says:

              No. I usually only take her to be trimmed once a year in the summer, and then I have to be really really specific or else she gets a really unflattering “mall cut”. It turns out Rachel Zoe knows her shit. Long stringy hair on either side of her face and long flowy skirts are a good look. A short bob and a short skirt puts like 2o lbs on visually.

      • cusi 77 says:

        I do agree with you error about Teresa. No doubt.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        LOL-
        What an amusing start to my morning.

  95. boston02127 says:

    This question was asked to broke Teresa in an interview by Zap2it.

    Q: What’s your favorite meal to cook for Sunday dinners?

    A: Pasta with red sauce. I make meatballs and we put bresaola in it. We put ox tail bones in the sauce. They make the sauce taste delicious. That’s what we eat on Sundays. Pasta, of course, always pasta.

    Ox tail bones? Has anyone ever heard of that?

    • error404 says:

      sounds southern.

      Anywho, OT but is anyone else queezy with the previews of them going to Venice on the show? It’s like if we from the intersection of two dirt roads in Arkansas, but then filmed a big trip back to the “old country” by visiting NYC, going to broadway shows and dancing at the rainbow room. WTF?!

    • kats2 says:

      Yes, I unfortunatley do – it’s an Italian thing

  96. Zoey says:

    So I know I have too much time on my hands, but….I looked on Joy’s Twitter page, and saw that she ‘follow’s Jill Zarin, so they must be friendly. Of course she also follows a bunch of goofballs, but maybe that’s just to find material for her jokes, as in whoever is making the news.

    I also saw that she follows Bethenny. Maybe that’s new, or just being polite, or could they be friends? I didn’t check on the reverse, if B follows her. Didn’t see any other housewives.

  97. boston02127 says:

    T talks about a new business for herself. A makeup line. (shocker) She also says the bankrupt rumor was spread by her husbands ex partner.

    http://www.mcall.com/features/food/mc-real-housewives-cookbook-20100720,0,6222628.story

    • cusi 77 says:

      Thank you Boston.

      This is what I most bothers me about TG. She is not authentic (and not in the sense of Kelly’s lalaland), She keeps bragging, when the truth is reaching her hills! I want to feel compassion for her, she makes it difficult… But i do feel for her daughters.

    • Zoey says:

      Oh lordy, a make up line? Is it based on buying in bulk? She’s more about quantity than quality.

  98. Dani says:

    I have a question. Is there a Bravo film crew that shoots all of the episodes for HWONJ, BGM, HWONY etc? Like on BGM do they set up a camera (and leave it there) and have Bethenny or Jason turn it on when there is a big event like when her water broke? This might sound naive but I was just wondering. It would be very intrusive to have a film crew in your home constantly.

    • error404 says:

      I believe there is a crew, and also think some things are restaged, not live, like the pregnancy test. They may have happened just like that, but then are restaged for the camera.

      For the previews of next week, it looked like they’d left B&J with a camera in the hospital. They whole look of the footage was so “Blaire Witch Project”

      • Dani says:

        Thank you error404, I have been wondering about this for awhile so I appreciate the information.

  99. tweetybird says:

    hey all. luv ur comments. how are you?

  100. kats2 says:

    Well I just learned something about Markus and Idrani from the Bravo Double Exposure show. I now have another Bravo show I need to ban. They were on CNN Larry King tonight (his show was about Lindsey Lohan going to jail) not only did they both support Lindsey and said she needs help but they didn’t think jail was the answer at all. But Idrani used this interview on the night that season finale is airing that she had a relationship (intense and spiritual) with Lindsey.

    The issue is not that she hooked up with Lindsey or any female. It’s the timing and how she used the situation to exploit her at this time, what was the need for going there? I’m no fan of Lindsey at all, I think she should stay in jail for the full term, but she is messed up and now Idrani (another Bravo Fame Whore) is using this and it just happens to be on the same night their season finale is airing. Pathetic. Where does Bravo find these people?

    • error404 says:

      I hope they can recast it or something, because I find the work part interesting, but watching those two is just too much to handle

      • babelony says:

        I feel the same. This could be a great show, but their bickering is just too much. I love the locations and how they set the shots up though.

  101. tweetybird says:

    missed andy on watch what happens. how can i see it?

  102. error404 says:

    OK, first the view this am, and now Michelle Kwan shows up on D-List? Did I die and go to TV heaven?

  103. error404 says:

    I feel like Kim G!

    Joy is mean to Bethenny, but she’s nice to Kathy. I’m like the friend trapped in the middle. lol

    • yeah, me too. I am really starting to loath “Joy” but then she comes on D list, and is so nice to Kathy! Hate to be a “not happy w/ the way you been treating my fave celebs” person. Hate is like a curse word in my house. yes, Im in Jersey.

  104. tweetybird says:

    thank u

  105. OK sorry this is so late. New York Post(Not Page Six) actual tv section says they are going to make a T.V. Pilot about “Cop without a Badge” the dreaded book about D.

  106. Article says they have apparently done several surveys regarding series and “several studios” have expressed interest. Wow

  107. Adgirl says:

    So will Danielle and her “jewelry”be starring on the new show or will she be a technical advisor?? hahaha.

  108. cusi 77 says:

    adgirl_ are you thinking the same as I am thinking?

  109. error404 says:

    “Which reality-show diva just returned from what she said was a trip to France looking fresher than ever, leading to whispers she had a face-lift? “Her face is so tight, it’s smoother than her teenage daughter’s,” said our spy . . .”

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/just_asking_uLWkqn83xfVHWq3pke6zmN#ixzz0uHuonX24

    Neither Lulu nor Sonja needed a facelift. Actually, how old is Sonja’s daughter?

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      This sounds like LuAnn. She tweeted about her trip to France and she has a teenage daughter, Victoria is 15. That blind item has Jill’s grubby little fingerprints written all over it. I guess LuAnn isn’t paying enough attention to Jillous this summer.

      • i thought the same thing..but kind o f dismissed it. i didnt think lulu really needed work(im talking structural, NOT mental)

        • icantstandthetoxicity says:

          I don’t think LuAnn needs plastic surgery, she looks great. I wonder if she is trying to look younger because she wants to be a pop star. lol

      • Jenni says:

        Didn’t Jill have dinner with LuAnne last night?

      • Quincy IL says:

        I think the story is about Luann and she didn’t have a face lift. The French don’t use botox or have many face lifts. They take care of their skin from an early age and use prevention. I think she had a pulse laser treatment that plumps the muscles and cartilage under the skin.

        http://www.reneerouleau.com/French.aspx

        Europeans make fun of Americans for these masques that we create by injecting materials into our faces. Does anyone here think that Danielle or Kim Z look normal?

        Luann exercises and during the first season, she had a drop dead sexy figure. She’s lost a lot of weight in the divorce diet and the people in NY have given her compliments, but take a look at her at the Hampton’s Equestrian Event and you’ll see what I mean. I think a bit of lean muscle is very attractive on Luann. She looked like Sophia Loren.

        Luann is also a big time smoker. You can hear it in the vibrations in the polyps of her voice box.

        • Maxine49 says:

          Quincy, LuAnne is not French. She is an American from blue collar Berlin, CT. She has some Native American and French Canadian blood (her maiden name is Nadeau) among her mixed genealogy. Whatever gave you the idea that she was European?

          • Quincy IL says:

            I know she is American. She married a French man 17 years ago and has spent a lot of time over there. Before that she was working as a model and tv personality in Italy.

            Luann is always dispensing European wisdom. She really identifies with the French as they are her ancestors too.

            • Quincy IL says:

              I remembered an article on Luann just now. Her two children have French passports and they owned several homes in France.

              • Maxine49 says:

                Yes, I know she was married to a French man, but that does not make her French, not does she have French ancestry. French Canadian is not French. I lived and worked in France for many years and I speak French—that doesn’t make me French. The French positively laugh at French Canadians. One fellow I worked with was French Canadian and the French laughed right in his face when he spoke French…they didn’t even try to hide their disdain!

  110. Need a Hobby says:

    Sonja’s daughter is nine.

    • error404 says:

      Wow, so Jill ratted out her pal Lulu to the press!

      Ramona never said anything about going to France, did she?

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Nah, Ramona’s been hanging in the Hamptons & more recently Newport, RI.

        Could be some other “reality show diva,” but Lulu recently was in France…

        • babelony says:

          If it’s LuLu, I think that’s a shame. As much as I don’t like her, I think she’s pretty and didn’t need a facelift at all.

      • cusi 77 says:

        No. I remember Mario’s Blog (When The VI trip) that they use to go once a year to the Italian riviera.

  111. cusi 77 says:

    @Beverly_ Is this the article you are talking about?

    “The book that exposed “Real Housewives of New Jersey” psycho Danielle Staub’s drug-dealing past is being shopped as a possible TV series, according to TV sources.

    The book, “Cop Without a Badge,” has played a big role in The over-the-top TV series ever since one of The other Jersey wives found it — supposedly at The library.

    The book contains Danielle’s blurry mug shot from 1986 and details of her sordid past that The other “Housewives” have used to keep The volatile Staub out of their group.

    Veteran TV writer David Black, a “Law & Order” alumnus with a list of credits that goes back to “Kojak,” and Charles Kips, a former “Cosby Mysteries” writer and The author of The book, are pitching The proposed new series next week in a series of Hollywood meetings, according to sources.

    Danielle Staub mugshot
    Several studios have apparently expressed interest in The title character of The book — former con man Kevin Maher, who was recruited out of prison to become an undercover informant for The New York Police Department and FBI.

    Danielle — then living under her birth name, Beverly Merrill — was Maher’s girlfriend during those years, The book says. He met her in Miami while she was out on bail on drug and kidnapping charges, according to The book.

    “Cop Without a Badge,” first published 14 years ago, was out of print when it made its first appearance on The reality TV show last season. It has since been re-published. “

  112. dumberries says:

    Off Topic (but need to vent)

    I just heard the latest Mel Gibson tape and read some of the comments at a few sites. Can’t believe about 1/2 the comments support him. WTH? Are these the same people that vote that Danielle started the fight at the fashion show and shouldn’t press charges? Who are these people? This is not the first time Mel has been caught being a vile, egotistical racist and hate-filled human being. I don’t know how anyone can support him – regardless of what they think of Oksana. Remember other narcissistic stars like OJ and Robert Blake? They also claimed their baby mamas were gold diggers, sluts, etc… Too bad these women were dead and unable to defend themselves when the claims were made. I don’t care what the motives of these women were, these are men with a lot of money and resources and they picked these women. They took the lives of these women (imo) and took their children, and got away with it. I’m glad that Oksana is alive to defend herself and make sure she doesn’t become another Nicole Simpson. If she gets rich in the process, I have no problem with that whatsoever – he deserves to be hit where it hurts. He should to be taken to cleaners and banished from the entertainment industry all together. Hopefully, he’ll get some serious help for his own sake, but he should just be gone. Okay, done with my rant. Feel better!

    • error404 says:

      Two wrong don’t make a right IMO. This does have a Kiki “systematic bullying” aspect to it. Take those tapes to the police honey, or at least your lawyer. Bringing it to the tabloids just diminishes her side of the story and makes a mockery of victims like Nicole Simpson.

      • dumberries says:

        I understand your point, but respectfully disagree. These are ultra-powerful men with tons of enablers and endless resources – they literally get away with murder. Nicole Simpson had 911 to her house how many times? Mel Gibson and OJ Simpson are cut from the same cloth – very similar patterns of behavior. If Nicole had gone public, maybe, just maybe, she’d still be alive. Oksana’s wrong (is she released the tapes) is nowhere near his wrong, IMO. He makes death threats, repeatedly. Judging by his behavior, I’d take them seriously.

        • error404 says:

          true, her wrongs are kid stuff compared to his.

        • I agree. If she had just gone to the police, the tapes may never have been released to the public as they weren’t 911 tapes. I think having this out in the open gives her a bit more protection than just going to the police. Sad to say, but true, given Nicole Simpson’s fate.

          Regardless of her possible behavior (gold digging?), the verbal and alleged physical abuse was more than enough to validate her actions of taping their conversation then releasing the tapes to the tabloids.

          In my book, if you threaten, I’ll use whatever means I need to to make record of those threats and bring them to the public eye. She’s smart not to go the “he said, she said” route with the police, especially not with someone with his money and supposed power, if he still has any, that is. Recording someone without their knowledge may be unethical, but considering her life may be at stake, it was a smart and necessary move.

          If someone has done or threatens to do you bodily harm, you fight back, and fight back dirty. It’s your life at stake. Ethics be damned! Your motive for doing so is for self protection, not to do someone else harm.

    • cusi 77 says:

      DB_ is okay. This is the right place to vent.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think if Oksana wasn’t such a greedy, gold digging opportunist who lacks credibility that people would be a lot harder on Mel.

      Why is it these women who hook up with married men, think they should never have to work again? There is a very fine line between hush money and extortion.

      Violence is wrong but I really don’t think that Mel is the only one who is guilty of being verbally abusive.

      • HD says:

        Mel Gibson is an idiot. But as Rabble Rouser has suggested one thing my father ALWAYS ask me is, “what part did you play?” I don’t care what I said he would always ask me that. It used to irritate me so much but finally when I was about 30 I got it. We all play a part. Oksana played her part. He should have NEVER hit her, I am not saying that. But if you reduce it down to its irreduciable essence, if she would have left a married man alone she would not be in this situation. When you see crazy coming cross the street. No one deserves abuse and I am not saying this is her fault (I was an abused woman) but I am just saying a lot of stuff we get into could have been avoided if we never got into it in the first place.

      • Zoey says:

        What does everyone think he wanted from her???? Her personality? I don’t think so.

        Just like Donald Trump’s conceited gold-digging newest wife said when someone asked her if she married him for his money, she replied ‘Did he marry me because I am beautiful?’. Full of herself, but true.

        These men wouldn’t have a chance with young, attractive women if they didn’t have moolah, power or fame! Women just get labeled and blamed for this scenario, and men don’t. Surprise, surprise. I wish more women who bash the gold diggers would realize this double standard they are falling for!

    • emt2 says:

      I agree with you. Oksana isn’t an angel but she doesn’t deserve to “bashed on the head with a bat” and “buried in the rose garden.”

      Mel Gibson has some very serious problems. His rage, his huffing and puffing, etc. is scary. And I can only imagine what his wife went through for 28+ years.

      I love how in the tapes he said that he left his wife because she wasn’t Catholic and going to hell. Um, Mel, adulterer, you have no place for moral judgment. None.

      And I don’t understand why people blame the woman who went after the married man. He took vows, not her. He broke up his family, she didn’t break it up. He loved his wife, Oksana didn’t love his wife. Oksana has no duty to Mel’s wife. While her behavior is disgusting, I place the blame on Mel for leaving his wife and getting his mistress pregnant and parading around with her in a very public and disrespectful way.

      Side pieces and mistresses should not be rewarded for sleeping with married men (I’m talking to you Rachel Utichel who has made millions from her Tiger Woods notoriety), however, Okasna and Mel were in a relationship and rasining a child together with plans to marry. His violence, racism and sexism is astounding.

      And he admitted to threatening her with a gun! And he admitted to hitting her! This information is getting lost because of all the noise about her being a gold-digger. He ADMITTED these things.

      If I were Oksana I would be afraid for my life because Mel is filled with a very dangerous rage and he will blame her for all of his problems and will seek to punish her. I would be very afraid if I were her.

      • HD says:

        I used to think that way too, “I didn’t take the vows” but BOTH of them are wrong. He is wrong and she is wrong. She is wrong for sleeping with a married man and he is wrong for stepping out on his wife. Both did something they should not have done. You don’t sleep with married men. You don’t have an affair. And sadly, she is learning a painful lesson. Been there, done that, got a T-shirt, sent out postcards. Leave married men alone. If she would have said, “thanks but no thanks you are married,” she could be avoiding this entire situation. And if Mel would have just not had this affair then he could be avoiding this entire situation as well. (plus he just needs help anyway.) But if they BOTH had done the RIGHT thing, none of them would be in this mess. Sometimes the best lesson is a bought lesson and Mel is surely paying for his and so is Oksana. I bet if another married man approaches her she will run in the other direction and Mel my goodness, if he doesn’t see he needs some help then he is completely nuts.

        I have learned so many things the hard way, things that could have been avoided if I would have just left it alone. When you know right, do right and it will save you a world of trouble. sigh…

        • MAMAZ says:

          We all have moral duties to society. She is as responsible as Mel Gibson for the break up of his marriage. And don’t forget that Mel had already been taped making racist, misogynist rants before she ever met him. She knew exactly what kind of person she was getting involved with.
          However, I do agree that he is a dangerous man in the same mold as OJ and Robert Blake. She is as entitled to the same rights under our legal system to be protected from him as anyone else. Leaking the tapes was probably necessary as others have pointed out. If she makes a few bucks along the way, oh well. She also had a reputation in the entertainment industry before he met her. So he had to know exactly what kind of person he was getting involved with as well. And HD, I love your father’s question! I am planning on using it with my own children from now on.

          • kk says:

            That baby, an INFANT, had bruises. If you give a baby a bruise on the face from hitting your women–you rattled that babies brain and could have accidently killed his baby daughter.

            I don’t care if your gold digger or not–you should not get hit or threatened with murder.

            You don’t hit women and babies period. Men should not be hit or abused by their spouse either.

            Abuse is unacceptable, I don’t care how good he can act or direct or showed his butt on film for a paycheck.

            • kk says:

              He’s a whore too.. how often did we see his half naked body on film or his bare butt for a paycheck.

              He was film eye candy for the masses when he first came out–It’s not like he was some Shakespearean Royal trained actor who only acted with his clothes on.

              Sorry Lynn, I’m just real mad about this hypocrisy. I still hate Jill.

          • HD says:

            Thanks, Mamaz! I use that question on my own daughter now because she is GOOD at trying to point the finger at others. Nine times out of ten a whole big mess could have been avoided if we don’t play a part in it. It always hurts to look in the mirror but it is needed.

        • emt2 says:

          I agree that they were both wrong and you shouldn’t sleep with married men.

          I just find Mel’s hypocrisy so mind-boggling. This is someone who built an entire church on his property because he thought the current Catholic Church was too liberal. And yet, he has the audacity to commit adultery and to be a raging alcoholic while casting judgment on the rest of the world. No thanks, Mel. I’m okay and I don’t need spiritual guidance from a raging hypocrite.

          • HD says:

            I agree with you on that end, EMT2. Mel needs some type of help and I am sure the help he needs go backs to his alcoholism which I am sure stems from some other stuff that he is fighting. And honey you can dress that thing up with religion, alcohol, drugs, overspending, however you want but brokenness is still brokenness and somewhere along the lines in his life, he was broken and never put himself back together. No one wakes up one day and says I want to be a raging alcoholic that beats my wife. No one does that. There is a reason behind it and until he gets to the bottom of that he will continue to fight his own demons that even cannot see until he is TRULY ready to see them.

            • KirksvilleMo says:

              My 2 cents,married men lie,people can’t be stolen,the married party is responsible,he attracted her with money and fame,she attracted him with youth and beauty,and he shouldn’t have unsupervised visitation because the hatred he has for the mother will be transferred to the child.
              Nothing a woman can do deserves the murder of her soul or physical abuse,most especially the mother of abusers child.Mel has damaged the woman that is the major influence in his childs life therefor damaging his child.IMO

  113. Ladies and Gentlemen “bev” is leaving the building, still suffering from last nights O.C.D.
    inability to know when to say goodnight! I’m gonna hang up now. for sure. no double checking. good night. that’s it. I’m going, ok, ok Im going .
    I’m addicted. thanks alot .all of you, esp. Lynn
    Good Night Chicago!

  114. Rabble Rouser says:

    Holy crap on a cracker…..

    Check this out
    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/videos/anniversary-equals-diamonds

    These idiots are probably going to be indicted just because of their ‘scenes’ filmed for Bravo. Please someone twitter that twat Teresa and tell her where the “Crown Jewels” can be found and their history.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      There is also bonus footage clips of T visiting Elvira at her home, she is starts criticizing her banisters and says “I should introduce you to my railing guy”.

      Would this be the same railing guy who says they owe him 15K?

      • Adgirl says:

        Yeah, I think the railing guy would run as fast as possible from a customer recommended by the Juicy’s. All that work and no $$ to show for it.

        • HD says:

          Joe keeps talking about money issues but like he doesn’t want to disappoint Teresa. Joe by far is NOT innocent but I bet he did a lot of this tom foolery to make Teresa happy. I mean what is wrong with telling your wife times are hard and for our anniversary we are gonna have to do something small? And Teresa pisses me off for not looking at the world around her. Everyone is scaling back and she continues to live like she has Oprah money or something!

      • Snarkella says:

        LOL

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      In T’s world the crown jewels are found between a man’s legs! lol

  115. Jenni says:

    I don’t remember seeing this article and video when it came out:

    http://gawker.com/5560212/countess-luann-mocked-by-interns-on-live-television

    The articles text:

    “Countess LuAnn de Lesseps aural abomination, “Money Can’t Buy You Class,” continues to amuse. She performed the song on an LA morning show earlier this week. The station’s interns laughed at her while she performed.

    If you thought the video for the song was bad, wait till you see this latest embarrassment for the Real Housewife of New York. Not only did she sing and sway badly, but the station’s interns—who’d probably been forced to dance along to the song and pretend like they were having a good time—seem to make fun of the whole number.

    Poor girls. They took the summer gig so they could learn a thing or two and get a leg up on their classmates. And what do they have to endure? Countess LuAnn caterwauling her little ditty at some ungodly hour of the day.”

    • viki55 says:

      Thanks! That was really good:)

    • moriasheehan says:

      it was great, thanks. i love jimmy fallon and the real housewives of late night. want to see more. now.. bethenny’s dress, a little too tight in the bust. loved the red shoes. did you notice, bethenny’s hair looked much less black, softer brown, love it.

  116. Jenni says:

    Best quote from the linked article:

    “This will probably infuriate the other New York ladies, as it’s something of a mark of classy distinction to be the first one to say “Yeah, no, I can’t do this anymore” on one of these monster shows. Now we just need Alex McCord to leave and the crazies will have full reign and we can watch with disappointment and pity as the remaining beasts devour each other alive.”

    http://gawker.com/5554737/bethenny-frankel-flees-real-housewives-horror-show-while-she-still-can

    • error404 says:

      I know I have no one to blame but myself for reading, but is anyone else getting tired of all the daily updates “yes, today I am still uncertain if I will accept should I be asked back” in the “news” about the RHONY cast?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Bravo probably isn’t getting tired of these tidbits! Viewers are still responding so they are getting the kind of feedback they may use to decide who to ask back for another season. IMO, Bethenny is playing this correctly – not a firm no and not a yes if but a constant I don’t know – which is true. If BMG? has only one season she may do RHONY if the cast is more drama free.

        • error404 says:

          Oh I sure Bravo is loving it! 3 part reunion show, “lost” footage, WWHL, and now almost daily press saying nothing. They’ll be milking this cash cow on it’s deathbed right to it’s dying breath. Andy’s starting to seem a tad unseemly.

  117. Jenni says:

    Last one: (have to get ready for work….)

    Did a compare of Danielle and Teresa on the fame game website, look at the picture for Danielle! Hilarious!!!!!! Teresa didn’t even show up on their radar at all (snicker).

    http://www.famegame.com/compare?from=Danielle+Straub&from_profile_type=person&to=Teresa+Guidice&to_profile_type=person

    • Jenni says:

      OOOH- evil thought, wouldn’t it be fantastic if we could figure out how to get Mickey’s Chuey-Teresa picture to show up under her name? There must be a way, based on Danielle’s picture. Anyone have the will and the time?

    • moriasheehan says:

      i compared bethenny with joy behar, bethenny won hands down.

  118. Ellabean says:

    Here is a backstage clip of Bethenny getting hair/makeup done for her View appearance yesterday. Only 3:24 min long. Interesting.

    • error404 says:

      well, I guess it only makes sense that the producer of the view is such a yenta! LOL

      odd aside: I was happy to hear Bryn is sleeping in her own room. It seems all of my friends keep their babies in their beds for a really long time.

      • Ellabean says:

        My thoughts exactly. I ‘ve seen this same producer ‘gal ‘ before. I know the type all too well.

      • Quincy IL says:

        My anesthesiologist daughter had a monitor and watched her baby all night like Bethenny. There are one thousand books on how to help your baby sleep. My daughter read all one thousand.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Babies are all different and helping them establish a routine that works (like sleeping through the night) is challenging. Bethenny is willing to admit she needs “education” and that she has questions, concerns, etc and knows being a mom is a very hard job! I remember the big debate of putting babies on their backs or stomachs to sleep! Giving them pacifiers or not. My granny used to say babies are like snowflakes – no two are alike!

          • Maxine49 says:

            Windy, your Grandmother was a very wise woman!

          • BamaBelle says:

            Windy… Your Granny was a wise woman… so was mine! When my kids were born in the late 70’s and early 80’s they all slept on their tummies! Then, when they had their babies everything had changed and they were told to put their babies on their backs. Fine, except the first granddaughter would not sleep on her back-finally I told my daughter to let her sleep on her tummy, she did, everything was okay and she finally slept through the night. I don’t think doctors have all the answers… each baby is different.

            I do think babies (after 6 weeks-longer if premature) slept better if they’re in their own room or at least in their own bed!

            • Bosandi says:

              I totally agree, every baby is different. Our son stayed in our bed for far too long – it was for his safey is how we justified it. Thinking back, it was for our piece of mind.

              • MAMAZ says:

                I kept my first in bed with me too long also. I was the one that wasn’t ready. Then when I was it was very difficult for her. It was a mistake but a mistake made by love.

    • Maxine49 says:

      What did that producer say at the very end of that clip of Bethenny back stage? It oddly sounded like “Jill will be back tomorrow”—What? Bethenny was sitting in for Elizabeth Hasselback. The word Elizabeth does not sound like Jill—am I hearing things? Was that a huge Freudian slip by the producer? Anyone?

  119. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    SO, I went to Barnes and Noble yesterday after work looking for Bethennys book. I could not find it however they had Theresa’s book in a position where everyone could see it easily. Once I found Beth’s books I placed them were Theresa’s were and put Theresa’s in the shelf. LOL!! It felt good.
    FYI I also glimpsed and article in Star magazine about Bethenny’s mom. Not sure if you guys have seen it yet they have more pics of Bethenny as a little girl.

  120. WindyCityWondering says:

    What has always bothered me about the View is that none of these ladies seem to like or listen to each other’s opinions! If anyone of them don’t like the “guest” they go after that person – so why have guests? Bethenny came prepared to actually participate and Joy was condesending, nasty and put her down for her opinions! So if you are tuning in to watch a particular guest it is disappointing to say the least! Why is this show still on the air?

    • MAMAZ says:

      I have never liked The View. It would be interesting to listen to the differing political opinions if any of the women seemed at all knowledgable about the topics. It looks more like they just automatically oppose the other side. If EH is for it, JB is against. And visa versa. If EH said children shouldn’t eat too much sugar JB would say they should eat nothing but sugar. If JB said that wine was bad for babies EH would say they should be given wine in their bottles. WG would go on a psuedo intellectual ramble about both sides and SS would misunderstand everybody.

      • Maxine49 says:

        LOL—you nailed it!

      • error404 says:

        I never liked this show either, but the whole “point/counter-point for dummies” idea is the whole idea of the show.

        I’m not sure I agree that JB and EH don’t know their poli stuff. I just think it’s comes off more dum because of the sound byte pace of the show. Nothing is ever discussed in any kind of depth. It’s sorta like speed dating for current events.

        SS I think is suppose to bring “heart”. She’s all about feelings as we all know she can’t think or her head hurts.

        And WG seems to think she’s on Sister Act III and if she doesn’t go thru the motions and collect her paycheck, the mob will drown orphans. I suspect a trip to “promises” in her future.

  121. kk says:

    I have a question for all you fellow posters & Jill Haters.

    Now that you have seen Teresa’s temper and violent outbursts:

    Would you let her watch your children or grand-kids?

    I think she’s violent and I worry for her kids, just as much as I do Danielle’s kids.

    What do you all think? Am I alone in this?

    • Ellabean says:

      I wouldn’t let Teresa watch my dog, my TV, my garden grow or my paint dry.

    • Olivia says:

      I don’t see Theresa as a danger to kids. In fact, I think she overindulges her own out of a sense of love more than a sense of nurturing and guidance.

      But I do think she is capable of going after an adult she deems worthy of her spite. She has already shown that during last week’s episode. Given the chance, she would have layed hands on Danielle which was the whole purpose of that “friendly greeting” in the lobby in the first place.

      • error404 says:

        um… she let’s little kids ride in cars on highways with no seatbelt on, and she let’s them ride on motorized vehicles without a helmet saying “it was only for a minute”, and just how child-proff is a marble and onyx McMansion. Maybe if this was 1957, I’d agree with you that she’s not a danger to kids, but I suspect that if I asked T to watch my can of cling peaches, she’d return it dented.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Her kids act just like her – they are fighters too! I am wondering if that baby’s skull is deformed or she is being brain damaged from all those bow things. Baby’s skulls are not closed so if you bind it with “hair accessories” constantly – will this affect her brain function in the future.
      To answer your question: I wouldn’t let her watch my kids and I wouldn’t let my kids play with her kids.

      • dumberries says:

        Ellabean, LOL!

        If the responsibility for watching my kids was for a one-time deal for a couple of hours, I’d be okay with anyone of the HWs except Kelly, Daniel, and Lynn. I think the three of them are unstable and unable to focus on anything but themselves or what’s on their minds at the moment.

        On the other hand, if the responsibility for watching my kids was a regular gig, I’d be more selective because the sitter would likely make an impression on my children. In this case, the HW cast members that I’d choose would be Alex, Simon, Mario, Avery, maybe Ally (no JZ allowed on the premises), Jason, Caroline (even though she bugs me), and Vicki Gunvelson’s daughter. They strike me as people that would enjoy it and/or would be nurturing. On the shows, we see them responding to other people’s needs a lot. P.S. I wouldn’t ask Ramona, Bethenny or Vicki – even though they are good moms -because I think they are very career-driven and already juggling work and family to the limit.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I wouldn’t let her watch my kids but not because I fear a violent outburst involving them. It’s because she is DUMB! I would hate to see her in a crisis or life and death situation….”Honey, what’s the number to 911?” type of dumb. I bet she still thinks you should put butter on a burn.

  122. Olivia says:

    Just read Alex’s blog covering this week’s episode. Disappointing in that she more or less danced around the whole thing and even failed to mention Theresa’s participation from the beginning.

    I always thought that of all the Housewives, Alex possessed the most class but I admit to be somewhat baffled that she gave Theresa a pass overall for behaving like a mad dog.

    I understand that they much of what these ladies do is built into their contracts, i.e, appearing together and so on, but she either should have not bothered to comment, or at least lay the blame at the feet of the instigator, Theresa. Oh well.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Alex is classy, articulate and tactful – she would never blog anything like the RHONJ women do. She chooses her words carefully and is a good Bravo team player. She called out Jill because of what Jill did to her personally on her own show. But Alex is careful to keep her comments contained to the scenes we see on RHONJ and does acknowledge that there is likely more we didn’t see. I bet she is very glad she is not on that trainwreck of a show! lol

      • emt2 says:

        I have to disagree. Last week’s blog from Alex was so anti-Danielle and pro-Teresa that I had a hard time reading it. She says that she doesn’t know if Danielle was justified in pressing charges for Ashley’s physical attack? That situation is very clear-cut for me and anyone with intelligence. If Danielle had been the one to run after Teresa and it was Christine who had pulled Teresa’s hair, everyone who be calling for REAL jail time (not just a fine). Ashley assaulted someone else, point blank. Not debatable.

        Alex should know better but I think she is trying to play both sides or at least she is trying to appeal to the Jersey fan base as she has upcoming business in Jersey. She was not very harsh with Teresa, at all. At all, actually and she spent more time criticizing Danielle and Ashley. Alex was probably one of the people who called into the poll on WWHL and said that Danielle wasn’t justified in pressing charges.

        I like Alex overall but I have to say that I’m starting to see things about her that make me believe some of the criticism I’ve read about her.

        • viki55 says:

          What kind of criticism have ya heard?

        • Maxine49 says:

          I agree with you—I was very disappointed that Alex was going soft on Danielle. Can you imagine if Kelly had run after Bethenny? What would Alex say then? And believe me, I am no fan whatsoever of Kelly—I think she is a very sick chic. This scene with Ashley assaulting Danielle is a “learning moment”—Alex should have risen to the occasion and gone on the record against this violence. Tsk, tsk, tsk, Alex.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO, Bravo started the cross over guest blogging to get people to watch all the shows. Teresa’s style is very different from Alex’s style blogging – and the two shows are very different as well. So Alex seems on the fence or soft pedals because slamming other employees isn’t good for business – she is a professional woman and knows that a happy employer is more likely to keep her employed.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Sorry hit send to fast. Given that the NJ crowd likes lawsuits – Alex probably doesn’t want to be involved in anyway by giving her opinions on the behavior of these folks!

        • KirksvilleMo says:

          I tweeted Alex last week and told her she was losing fans over her blog and that she may want to rewatch and rethink her stance.
          She responded by telling me that she voiced her honest opinion,is admittedly biased,and if that loses her fans then she deserves it.
          I feel like she is blowing off fans in favor of a friendship with Teresa.How can T be more important than hundreds of us?
          Also I tweeted Jac last night over her and Teresa now saying T said hello to Danielle because she wanted to confront her about lies she was spreading.She DM me and called me a fool and to reread her blog and that she and Teresa said that they wanted to say hello,then get in her face about the rumors and clear things up once and for all.
          So how is her and Teresa telling all who would listen that Teresa was”just trying to be nice” NOT a bold face lie?
          And she calls me a fool?

          • BamaBelle says:

            KirksvilleMO…

            I can’t BELIEVE Jacqueline called you a FOOL! That’s freaking crazy-she and Teresa are freaking crazy! That makes me mad…

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I don’t know why Alex would lock arms with Teresa given that she has had plenty of nasty and uncalled for things to say about Bethany.

            As for that moron Jac, sending you a DM and calling you a fool is the exact reason why her smug, dip shit daughter is in the type of trouble she is in. Any rational person in the spot light isn’t going to engage ‘haters’ (their words-not mine) in twitter wars or in any other forum.

            Jac totally reminds me of the type of mothers we have been hearing about, the childish ones that set up fake myspace accounts to lure in some girl who got into it with their daughter.

            I’m tempted to tweet her just to see if I can get a rise.

            • Quincy IL says:

              I thought about Alex’s blog and responces also. I believe that Alex has information that we don’t have. I think that what Danielle is doing behind the scenes may be worse than we see on tv.
              She will willling to stalk because a person giving her a pedicure mentioned a part. It’s my guess that the reason that Teresa and Jacqueline aren’t quaking in their boots is they have the goods on Danielle. As we all know, everything comes out of the closet in depositions.

        • Noreen says:

          Alex is still a class act in my book. I don’t think she or any other guest blogger has the obligation to tell it like it is or lay it all out there or however it can be phrased. If she wants to be diplomatic, I think that shows great restraint. Frankly, all the wives could take a lesson from her. I’m tired of the Jill Zarin excuse – if I think it, I must say it. It is the same problem Ashley has with her big fat mouth. There is way to much “honesty” in this world. OMG – I’m blathering – sorry – Hope I didn’t offend!

          • MAMAZ says:

            Alex was not excusing Ashley’s behavior.

            “Unless something was cut out, I really don’t see how Ashley could have thought that her mother was being attacked – seems to me more of a convenient excuse to try and deflect her own behavior. Nobody deserves to have hair extensions yanked out. Is it worthy of pressing charges for assault? Eh, debatable. Is Danielle within her rights to do so? Yes”

            She’s only suggesting that pressing charges may have been overreacting. I don’t happen to agree but remember Alex actually knows these people and has some affection for them. She may hate the thought of Ashley now having a record. It’s REALLY hard to have any sympathy for Danielle. She’s just so unlikable.
            I’m gonna cut Alex a little slack on this one.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              So while you think she wasn’t excusing Ashley’s behavior, it is ‘debatable’ if she thinks Ashley should be held accountable for it. I think that is the crux of the argument.

            • error404 says:

              eh. Ashley basically asked the town drunk who’s famous for false law suits, to come dance on her wet uneven patio. Really? She fell and is now suing you? How shocking? Not.

              I’d get more bent out of shape over Danielle’s craziness if the other women weren’t just as crazy.

              • BamaBelle says:

                Me too, Error…

                Teresa is just as crazy as Danielle just in a different way – still crazy though!

                Teresa and Joe act like thugs, behave like criminals… Teresa and Jacqueline calling out Danielle is the “pot calling the kettle black”!

  123. moriasheehan says:

    a friend just posted this on facebook
    “I just read that if people are talking (or stabbing in your case) behind your back, they are in a good position to kiss your arse.” (jane a.)
    i thought it pertained to jz, she is such a phony (take heed, kelly)( sorry kelly, it means “pay attention”)

  124. DesertGal says:

    My two cents on the subject of Mel Gibson: he’s a high grade of jackass.

    Maybe Oksana is a gold digger, or maybe she isn’t. I have no idea and don’t really care. Mel Gibson is certainly old enough and has been around enough to spot a gold digger and avoid her if he wants to; if he didn’t, then he has no one else to blame but himself.

    No matter how angry a man gets, striking out is still a conscious choice. Either he chooses to practice self restraint or he doesn’t. Gibson chose not to. HIS transgression, not hers.

    His ex-wife is reportedly standing up for him and taking the position that he never struck her during their 30 years together. Okay, but did I miss where non-violence became such an exception to the rule that it is worthy of praise? We’re supposed to commend him now because he DIDN’T hit his wife? Wow. Good going there, Mel. Must. have. been. tough.

    As for his racist rants, Mel Gibson can kiss my Native American ass. I wouldn’t pay to see another one of his films if he personally came to my house and handed me the DVD to watch free of charge. There’s no excuse for racism, on any level. None.

    • CdnFillie says:

      Totally with you on that DesertGal..he can kiss my Canadian white ass too

      • dumberries says:

        I agree too. Mel Gison is the jackhole of the week, every week of his egotistical “I am God and everyone better service me” life.

        • MAMAZ says:

          I do think she’s a gold digger. She already had a reputation as such in the entertainment industry. BUT she still doesn’t deserve that sort of treatment. It’s like the people who argue that a protitute can’t be raped.
          Robyn Gibson may be gloating. “He never hit me” sounds a lot like “I was a better wife, He must have loved me more.” She should be thanking Oksana for taking him away.
          Jackhole of the week doesn’t begin to cover it. Mel Gibson is a dangerous man.

          • Squirrels says:

            Her divorce settlement may not be done yet. She’d be stupid to not support him. Why let the woman who stole your husband’s heart get anything? She’ll want to keep the money “in the family”, so to speak.

            • DesertGal says:

              ???

              I’ve nothing against Robyn Gibson supporting Mel. They were married for nearly 3o years, and he was allegedly good to her and their children, so why shouldn’t she support him?

              I’m just not going to commend him for not ever hitting Robyn during their marriage. Sorry, but no man should be commended for not doing something that they shouldn’t do in the first place.

              The Gibsons have established residency in California. California is a community property state. When they married, Mel was a struggling actor, so I am sure there was no prenup. Whether she publicly supports him or not, Robyn is already entitled to a major share of his fortune. so ‘keeping the money in the family’ can’t be much of an issue. There’s never been any suggestion that Mel Gibson is refusing to provide for his children with Robyn, or to short change Robyn in terms of a settlement.

              Whether Oksana is entitled to any financial settlement or not, I have no idea, and don’t much care. But, they did have a child together-and the baby is entitled to be taken care of by both parents. I doubt even Robyn would claim that the baby should be deprived just because Oksana was the other woman.

          • dumberries says:

            Actually, I remember Mel Gibson being on late night talk shows after Oksana got pregnant (like the 4th “damage crisis” tour of his career) and confirming that he and Robyn had been separated for over 2 years when he met Oksana. I understood that Robyn agreed not to file for divorce and keep up appearances during their separation. This was a while after the DUI rant and starting the Church of Mel (originally in his backyard).
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1224512/Mel-Gibson-octodad-Russian-lover-Oksana-Grigorieva-gives-birth-baby-girl.html

            So, maybe Robyn just went along with everything in the later years to protect herself and the kids as much as possible, but I don’t think she was able to live with him when he started losing it completely. Definitely, she has learned not to rock the boat – possibly how she survived the later years with Mad Mel. I can see her following his lead and verifying his statements even to this day – just to keep him placated and tame for her sanity and that of their kids (and, bet she signed a tight confidentiality agreement during the divorce settlement). For all we know, the public outing of Oksana as Mel’s girlfriend was Robyn’s gift from baby Jesus. He tells Oksana on the last tape “nobody will believe you!”, though he never denies her allegations. I’d guess Robyn may have heard that line before too. Once the picture of Mel and Oksana kissing on the beach was caught by paparazzi and publicized, Robyn didn’t waste a single day filing for divorce – he couldn’t deny that he had broken the marriage vows and she had leverage to keep him out of her hair by not revealing secrets or badmouthing him.
            I choose to believe Robyn Gibson never had her husband stolen (if that’s even possible), she was thrilled that someone publicly took her discarded garbage off of her curb! And she’s got $350 million or so to boot….

    • error404 says:

      Were you a fan?

      Sorry if I seem oddly calm about the whole thing, but I always disliked him and his movies. When it came out, like over a decade ago, what an grade a a-hole he was, I wasn’t surprised. As the years pass, I guess I’m supposed to be shocked with each new revelation “He’s not just an a-hole, he’s a super a-hole.” no wait “he not just a super a-hole, he’s like a super duper atomic a-hole” etc…

      but I just can’t work myself up into caring. I pegged him for scum a decade ago, and oddly, find no enjoyment in my suspicions being proven true.

      • Quincy IL says:

        I have no use for him either. I remember an article about a house they had on the east coast. They had farm animals and put them right next to the neighbor’s lot line so all of the smell and there was a smell would go to the neighbor’s house. I have horses, donkeys, a couple of abandoned goats, dogs and cats. I make sure my neighbors are treated respectfully by all of the members of Noah’s Ark.

      • DesertGal says:

        Was I a fan? No, not really. I mean, I’ve seen a few of Gibson’s movies, and enjoyed them, but I’ve never have gone to see a film just because Gibson was in it or directed it. I never found him all that appealing.

        I just find physical abuse and racism unconscionable. I’d make the same statements about Joe Blow from Detroit if he was in the news instead of Mel Gibson.

    • Sorry I can’t remember where-I think it was a comment somewhere, and I don’t know if it is true, but I saw someone mention that Teresa & Joe filed a revised asset list in January. That would actually make sense since we know that the case was postponed sometime in January.
      I really don’t think we’ll see anyone face criminal charges for this. I could be wrong.
      I’ve never seen so much playing with the legal system as this season of RHONJ-its like they use the legal system, cops/courts/lawyers, as one of the HW.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I’ve read that they posted amendments too, but for all we know they could have downplayed their earnings or deflated the value of their assets given that ‘it’s a recession’.

        I’m pretty confident they didn’t add the book earnings, pizzeria, laundromat and apartments to the amendment since the trustee for all of this is claiming they didn’t list it.

        Had it been listed, what would be the point in him trying to dismiss their bankruptcy filing under the suspicion of fraud?

        I hope someone emails the trustee the clip of Tereasa buying all that high end furniture last year and as she is counting out the money she says “I heard there was a recession, so I pay in CASH”.

        Maybe Maxine can shed some light on this being the legal mind amongst the group.

        I think Teresa and Joe need a conservator to protect them from their own stupidity.

        • BamaBelle says:

          I saw the episode where Teresa plopped down over 100,000 dollars CASH for her new furniture. I wondered what the economy had to do with carrying around that kind of cash. I thought then-Teresa and Joe probably have a lot of cash lying around not wanting to report it to the IRS!

          When Teresa was telling Joe that Danielle said their house was in “foreclosed”… her words… Joe didn’t deny it. Also, next week, Teresa knowing how HORRIBLE their finances are should of told Joe NOT to worry about buying her an expensive gift for their anniversary. She also wanted “diamonds” for giving birth-KNOWING how bad off they were/are! When is Joe going to tell her… NO, we can’t afford that kind of stuff anymore? I just have no respect for either of them.

          When you’re that bad in debt-it’s time to cut back, and I don’t think she’s too good to live in an apartment if that’s all they can afford right now, either!

    • Squirrels says:

      First off, Hilton is a mutant ninja cockroach. However, I did find a comment that was amusing.

      “Guess prostitution whore is looking like a pretty good option about now…”

      Made me smile.

  125. Squirrels says:

    GM all. Took a break from commenting after the disaster they call WWHL. I’ve calmed down (many laps in the pool helped), and want to address some of the issues discussed. However, before I do, I wanted to post a couple fun links. One, previously posted so we don’t forget NY and JZ, along with one I’d never seen on WWHL.

    WWHL by KCSCougar

    The following is a post I sent to The View. Thanks for whoever posted the link.

    I was very disappointed in Joy’s comment re: breastfeeding is easy. While it’s true for me and many, not all women make the adjustment immediately. I know a number of new moms who found it difficult. Milk wouldn’t come, baby not interested, etc. Frankly, I think she did it because she hates Bethenny. Everyone knows she and Jill Zarin are good buds. She ignored Beth throughout the show and clearly illustrated her disdain for the break out reality star. Joy threw her professionalism out the window and became nothing short of a shrew. What a piece of work.

    As to Ox Tail? It is a delicacy in Chinese food culture (Cantonese, anyway). The first time I had it was at a family wedding. Thanks Uncle Jimmy for pointing out, “the bigger the bone, the sweeter the meat”. I nearly gagged, but again, I was only 11 at the time. I also had shark fin soup for the first time at that wedding also. Hate to admit it, but it was very good. The only other soup I recall at a different family wedding was Bird’s Nest Soup. Main ingredient – a bird’s nest, with the dung removed. Yum huh? lol, it was delicious even to us kids. Oh the things we remember from our childhoods.

    • Good point—I wanted to hear what Bethenny had to say about BF because she has fake ones right? Too bad Joy shut her down there.
      I’m wondering if Bethenny is trying to get the substitute seat on the view as a good source of income?
      I hate to say but I saw her say she is not coming back to RHONY, on Wendy Williams, and I think she means it-if she can get another job.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Good morning squirrels.
      I have posted about this already on here but I think it bears repeating. Breastfeed can be very difficult for the reasons you mentioned. I had quite a hard time with my first child. Lots of people made a point of dismissing my trouble just like Joy Behar. It only increased my anxiety and guilt. I felt totally inadequate as a mother. The baby wasn’t eating, I wasn’t eating. Both of us cried all the time. My La Leche coach was a facist about the whole thing and demanded I not give in and feed her formula. It was a nightmare.
      My pediatrician had his wife call me. She told me the story of her own problems with breastfeeding. I was so relieved. I wasn’t a horrible mother after all! Lots of women have similar trouble but don’t want to admit it. It helped so much just knowing I wasn’t the only one.

      I no longer eat meat but I grew up eating Ox Tail Soup. It’s typical Italian peasent food, hearty and delicious. I didn’t know it was a Chinese delicacy too.

      • Squirrels says:

        Another reason to hate JIll… I mean Joy… no, I mean Jill. She’s behind all things evil when it comes to Bethenny, I’m sure.

      • Squirrels says:

        Ramona is going to tape Joy’s show today. Meanwhile, here is a fun twitter to our fav pup.

        franticee

        @GingerZarin Yeah that was weird when Behar chimed in on bf. I wonder what Jiz promised her? Free curtains?

    • Quincy IL says:

      Short trip, eh? 30 ft back and forth?

  126. dsc60 says:

    i’m really shocked no one here responded to the fact that the Real Housewives are going to be coming to daytime on NBC in September. so it’s no longer only Bravo. now NBC is in on the problems… er action. i figured i’d say it again in case it was missed. otherwise, sorry for the duplication.

    • Squirrels says:

      Interestingly, I wonder if the new episodes will be aired on NBC daytime or just reruns? If the former, what shows will go the way of the dodo? If the latter, I suppose they will just replace whatever reruns of other daytime shows they have sent into overexposure in order to gain a new market.

    • Snarkella says:

      I didn’t comment because someone mentioned it was Atlanta, which I never watch anyway.

      • jennifer says:

        It’s all of them….every season every show….wonder if the girls get paid for syndication?

    • error404 says:

      what’s the big wup i’m not seeing here? NBC owns Bravo. Daytime TV shows reruns of old shows all the time. Housewives are popular, and by showing it on NBC they get the few holdout families that don’t have cable.

    • BamaBelle says:

      Thanks Viki55…

      I saw Bethenny live when she was on Foxs and Friends. She looked very pretty (a more softer look… I think it’s her hair), and she was very calm. I enjoyed the interview alot.

      Bethenny did say something funny, though… She said, “you don’t have to flip tables for drama on her show”… that was a direct dig at Teresa, and it’s true. Bethenny’s show is very drama-filled without the nastiness and craziness!

  127. Kelly-Has-Big-Shoulders says:

    I just read this on Gawker.
    (People are guessing that its Dina Manzo’s Husband.)

    “There are reality stars who are faking it with their boobs, their hair, their houses, their tans, their money, and their dates. But this one is faking it with her marriage. While she is legally married, her husband is gay. He knows it, she know it, and everyone in their family knows it. In return for supporting his image as a successful hetero man, she gets a fat payday. The wrinkle in the plan is that another reality star is making noise about outing her husband and her sham. Instead of defending her relationship, our little faker is simply running for the hills.” [Blind Gossip]

    • Ellabean says:

      WHOA!

      Holy Brownstone closet , Batman. 😉

    • viki55 says:

      I guess that would mean he is not the man in the mirror in Danielle’s sex tape.

    • Squirrels says:

      Doh…. While it would be my fervent hope he is embraced (if this rumor is indeed accurate), old ways die hard. Even in a world where gays are no longer seen as evil against God, being the first to admit it is a hard row to hoe. Toss in a dash of machismo and a pinch of “you made him turn” and you have a disaster.

      After my niece came out, we had one of our (every three year) family reunions (165 in attendance). My dear, sweet Minister Uncle thought it would be amusing to tell queen (gay) jokes while at the microphone during the main family dinner. I thought my sister would blow a gasket. My niece was there with her then girl friend. Even my mother was pissed. Seems some can accept, some cannot. Why, I do not know. All I know is we wrapped our arms around her and Uncle got the word he fucked up. How long did it take for him to forget all the prejudice he and his siblings suffered for being Asian back in the days of WWII, where no one made a distinction between Chinese/Japanese?

      BTW. My aunt Evelyn, wife of my mom’s brother George was born in an internment camp. My mother was attacked by a returning WWII soldier at a beach. In his defense, he suffered what we now know as PTSD and his own parents were mortified as my 17 yr old mother was beaten. Fortunately, her “white” friends had the wherewithal to grab her and toss her into a car for her protection.

      Our life experiences teach us alot. In my family’s case, we never looked back. We kept moving forward. I applaud all for that. My minister uncle obviously didn’t get the memo. He’s still a jerk to this day.

    • viki55 says:

      How do you get to the blind gossip section on Gawker?

    • error404 says:

      if Tommy’s gay, why was he so disinterested in their million $$$ Tv wedding? lol

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        LOL- excellent point.

        Also, if his relationship was just to keep up appearances why would he cheat on her 4 times? I would think a gay man wouldn’t like to have sex with a woman let alone several of them.

        • MAMAZ says:

          It doesn’t make any sense. Who are they supposed to be protecting him from? His employer? Nope, family owned business. His clients, because people in the process of getting married normally have no contact with gay men? Not when hiring wedding planners, florists, gown designers, caterers. Again nope. His family? Nope, The Lauritas have 2 openly gay brothers and the Manzos seem to have no problem with them.
          When and if to come out is a very personal decsion. So I can accept that a gay man, or woman, might not publicly announce their sexuality but aren’t the days of the elaborate subterfuge over? Getting married to hide being homosexual? Nope. I’m not buying it.

          • Maxine49 says:

            Well, Mamaz, I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I want to raise a provocative issue. And I first want to say that I have many gay friends–college professor, fellow law school students, business colleagues, etc…so this is in no way a knock on gays. Does anyone think that Caroline is deep in the closet? I’m just asking.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Tommy had affairs with women before that almost million dollar wedding.

        Could it be any one else?

        • MAMAZ says:

          Yes and it could be nobody at all. As much as I love Gawker I hate any type of blind gossip. If you have something to say about a person say it and be prepared to back it up.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      My guess, they are referring to Spencer Pratt, especially with the reference to fake boobs, tans, hair- and running for the Hills.

      But in general, I don’t put much thought into these vague stories. I think most of them are figments of some bloggers/gossip columnists imagination.

      • error404 says:

        Well, that actually is believable. lol He really does live up to his name, total prat!

        • vilzvet says:

          It sounds plausible to be Spencer but I had thought there were no more “fat paydays” for them with The Hills ending and her drive for getting acting roles not panning out. I really think they are hard up for cash.

  128. Squirrels says:

    Ok, just when you thought tweetMan-zine couldn’t get any funnier…..

    SueG101

    @kikilet, Tweetmaxine is trying to cause more bad blood between you and Bethenny by saying you invited B’s mom to come live with you. 😦

  129. Squirrels says:

    As an aside, I promised Shawn I’d post this for him.

    ShawnRabideau

    BTW I’ll be #tweetinglive during tomorrow’s episode of #BethennyGettingMarried be sure to #follow and tell your friends to follow too

  130. Ada May says:

    I just looked at the View and Bethenny was not on. I’m in the Midwest — do they air different versions? I got lucky though, Carol Channing was on. Tomorrow’s listing does not show Bethenny as a guest. I’m confused.

    • viki55 says:

      She was on yesturday. You can watch it at the views web site.

    • Noreen says:

      Bettheny was on yesterday’s view. It was confusing. Everyone thought it was Thursday. Go to the view’s website. You can watch full episode.s

    • Squirrels says:

      She hosted yesterday. Twitter freaks who hate her said Martha Stewart refused to be on the same show as her (Martha is on Thurs). Who knows, who cares. She did a good job. Was talked over constantly, but got in good questions to one of the guests. She did her research, unlike the others who relied on their blue notes.

      • Noreen says:

        I think everyone on that show is in constant fear that every guest host will be their replacement. I just find the energy on that show to frenetic. I have no idea what that means but it feels like what I mean.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Martha doing that would not surprise me. Bethenny did a great job and she’s going to be a huge success. People that are negative about that like Jill and probably Martha should mind their own business.

        • Ellabean says:

          I heard that about Martha on the same show – being a potential problem. They wouldn’t have planned and announced B’s Thurs. appearance publicly in the first place if that was true.

          I don’t think that is the reason Beth got bumped from Thursday to Tuesday. E. Hasselbeck was “under the weather” and Beth was called Monday nite to sub for her on Tuesday. So Hasselbeck was a no show for Tuesday’s show.

          Rumor has it that Hasselbeck got in trouble for her Kathy Griffin “is scum” and “is a serial killer” remarks on Monday’ show. At least thats what a bunch of us would like to think.

      • error404 says:

        yes, the whole atmosphere is like corporate management after a really bad sales year. Everyone has that scared bunny look on their face.

  131. viki55 says:

    Is the site running super super slow for anyone else?

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