I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of DC August 13, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Real Housewives of DC                  August 13, 2010

We already have a few bitch-fests going on with the DC ladies, some new, some old just as it should be in Washington DC, it mirrors the politicians, some old, some new!

This episode revolves around a birthday party for the resident gay boyfriend of all the ladies, and hair stylist, Paul Wharton.  Michaele was asked to host the party, apparently Lynda did it in the past and it was small, intimate and disappointing.  With only 20-30 guests he was limited as to how many he could invite.  Clearly this guy is popular and has a ton of friends he’d like to invite to his big birthday bash so why limit the guy?  Let him have a big splash! 

We’ll get back to the party in a minute.

Lynda is talking with her “assistant / son’s girlfriend” and this girl needs urgent assistance from Paul Wharton, who let her go on television without even brushing her hair?  OMG!  We see her later in the episode with the same ratty hair in a pony-tail but still a huge mess!   I get the need for an assistant with your business, but this girl tracks Lynda’s doctor appointments and maps out where the handbags are in her closet? 

Mary and Cat have a lunch date and I think that Mary must have eaten some really bad shrimp because her face throughout the lunch looked like she really needed a good long time in the bathroom!  It seemed like no matter what Cat said, Mary gave her the “look”.  These two ladies have nothing in common except that they both have children.  Clearly they have very different ideas on how to raise them.  Mary laid it out there that she was frustrated with the dog situation.  Her daughter came back home after moving in with her boyfriend didn’t work out.  (Sound familiar Jacqueline)  After having told Cat the whole story of the big hairy dog that she is now responsible for, Cat gave her opinion on the situation and Mary didn’t like what Cat had to say.  Oh well!  The ladies were waited on by Mary’s daughter Lolly, Cat was sure to tell Lolly what she thought about her pawning her big hairy dog off onto her mother and even made sure to criticize the large tip mom left for her daughter!  Lolly called Cat “bossy”, wow she hasn’t met some of the other housewives apparently!

Michaele and her husband Tarik invited Cat and Mary to go horse riding and have a quick polo lesson on their ranch/winery.  Quite the big deal is made that Michaele is wearing appropriate riding gear and Mary tells us that the “dress code” was jeans.  I think Michaele was most likely telling the ladies to dress casually and comfortably as they’ll be riding horses.  Michaele wasn’t going to win that one, if she had told them to wear full riding gear, she would have probably been accused of assuming they should go out and buy expensive polo gear for one ride.  I really don’t get the beer disguised as wine at the end, if that was supposed to be a funny funny joke, it wasn’t!  Besides that it had to have been FLAT beer to make it look anything like wine.  They couldn’t have stopped at Trader Joe’s and pick up a bottle of wine and bring to their winery?  This must have been the beginning of the end for the bankrupt winery.

Stacie invites the ladies to her aunt’s house for her self-described “Down Home Black Family Sunday Style Dinner”.  Lynda is excited as she’s from the south and this is a treat for her.  Cat was polite and accepted the invitation but was clearly uncomfortable.  Personally, I think that Stacie was way off base as to the reason for Cat’s discomfort, I think it was just the environment and talking about cooking with Crisco, and conversations that she cannot relate to, it just wasn’t something that she could be comfortable with.  Some people can adapt easily to any situation that they’re put in, others can’t.  I was disappointed that Stacie made it a race issue because I truly don’t think that it is. Cat was also without her husband which seems to be an ongoing theme here, maybe we can see the writing on the wall already. 

As the ladies were getting the dinner ready, the men retreat downstairs to discuss manly things.  A penis measuring device?  That isn’t the topic of conversation in any house that I’ve ever been in but to each his own!  It was awkward and it showed.  What happened to discussions of ESPN and bithcing about the wives shopping habits over cigars and brandy?

It is time for Paul’s birthday party and he’s flustered because Michaele isn’t there to hold his hand as he gets his hair done.   I don’t think that she needed to be there for that, she had made all of the preparations in advance so what’s the big deal?  We also find out later (in Michaele’s blog) that there are 4 hosts of this party, where the others there to supervise the stylist getting his hair done? 

Michaele and her husband arrive in a white stretch limo with a police escort.  How on earth did these two get a police escort to go to a birthday party?  It’s not the limo that bothered me, although it was overkill unless you planned on taking a nap on the way, but a police escort?  There is no explaination in Michaele’s blog about this, maybe we should hear from the police department on how this was possible?  Your tax dollars at work!  

The guests are arriving and Lynda latches onto Cat’s husband, she is obviously impressed because he has “access to the world including the oval office”.  I’m starting to really despise Lynda.  I can see her trying to get closer to Cat going forward because of her husband’s job as a photographer who works at the Whie House.   She is right about one thing, the hosts took over the party and didn’t allow the spotlight to shine on the guest of honor, Paul and that is rude.  Good hosts know to shut up, do all the work and let the birthday boy bask in the glow. 

The uncorking of the Champaign using a machete or whatever he used is apparently some old time upper crust tradition and I didn’t have a problem with that, in fact I thought that the cork hitting Lynda in the ass might just loosen the stick that’s up there.

Well Happy Birthday Paul, you are now in the middle of a cat fight between Lynda and Michaele.  Lynda there is no talking your way out of it, you did tell Paul to feed Michaele a burger and fries AND you told him to go ahead and tell Michaele that you said that.  It was pretty rotten of Lynda to put Paul on the spot like she did, at his own birthday party! Lynda is never going to convince me that she has Michaele’s best interests a heart because it is clear that she doesn’t even like the woman.  I’m not sure I do either but starting a rumor that she has an eating disorder is way out of line. 

Overall this is a little dull but I’m still holding out for more interesting storylines and interactions, the first few episodes of a new show are typically slow to start so I’m still hanging in there. 

Previews show a few of the housewives in Paris, I’m wondering if this is a Bravo sponsered (and paid for) trip like RHONY in St. John and RHONJ in Italy.  If it is paid for by Bravo, I would imagine some of the other housewives with their noses out of joint, since season one of the shows rarely get anything like that from Bravo, in fact, Atlanta hasn’t had any free trips and Orange County’s was pretty lame in comparison to what some of the others received. 

Elaborate trips should be a part of every season of every housewife francise, don’t you think?  Lets send Tamra, Vicki, Alexis, Gretchen and Jeanna to Afganastan to entertain the troops.  Gretchen can sing, Vicki can sell them all insurance, Alexis can save their souls and the rest can cook up some gormet grub. 

As many of you know, one of our regulars here at IHJZ, Laura aka Just Done went to Teresa’s book signing on Tuesday night and gave us a great report on how that went down, but she added more so I’d like to take a little time to repeat the original post but add the new posts that answered even more of our questions, what a great story!  Here is Laura’s original post, followed by her additions:

Hey everyone…ok, I’m back, and I just poured myself a skinnygirl margerita. Needed it after that. First off, I got there and there was a line of girls (teens mostly) and some were early 20′s. All with big hair and god-awful tans. I waited to be escorted in, only to wait again. I was floored when someone from Chateau offered me a wine spritzer. they were offering them to everyone. Also, there was someone with a clothing store there, with her clothes set up inside of Chateau…very bizarre.

I began talking to a couple of women in front of me. One was a mom who brought her two teen girls, the other brought one teen girl. The first mom knew NOTHING about chewbaca…it was reallly funny. The other one, on the other hand, lives very close to me and had driven around to all of the houses (Caroline, Dina, Jac) before coming to Chateau. We were talking about the auction, etc. She is NOT a Teresa fan, thank god! I wasn’t the only one.

Now it’s my time to go up and meet the lovely Teresa. Ughhh…wtf was she wearing? It was a neon pink satin dress…god it was awful. She shakes my hand and says “no pictures?” (I didn’t bring my camera) I handed her the book and asked her to make it out to my sister. She asked why I wasn’t getting one even though “you’re soooooo skinny, you don’t need it.” I told her I wasn’t a fan, and this was a gift. This led to a full on conversation about why I wasn’t a fan, and how come my sister didn’t come with me for the book. I explained that they were at their house in LBI (Jersey shore) and she told me that she was going there on Friday. I asked who she was staying with. (She didn’t get the inference.) This woman is too stupid for words. 

She finished by saying that she hoped she had changed my mind about her, and I told her no, and that I was going to go home and write on Lynn’s blog about the experience. She looked at me kind of funny, and then she said “ok, hope to see you in LBI.” She is just a stupid woman, and guess what, she looks much worse in person if anyone can believe that. As I walked out, someone from Chateau asked if I’d like a menu…so Lynn, I have a menu for you. I didn’t think you wanted the book. I know I didn’t!

As I walked out the door, I heard someone whisper “she’s a hater.” I don’t know who said it, but I know it wasn’t chewbaca. You couldn’t miss her voice.

BTW, there were approximately 30-40 people there, but as someone had pointed out, she was on her home territory. None of the other ladies were there, and I kept looking for Kim G. She was a no-show.

Many of us had questions for Laura, here are her responses:

I couldn’t have possibly “blended” with them…I stuck out like a sore thumb. She actually asked me if I lived in Franklin Lakes, when I said no, Morris County, she said “So do I!” Then she asked me what town, and proceeded to tell me what a beautiful Italian town I live in. BTW, I’m not Italian (100% Irish and I look it) and my neighborhood has all different nationalities. Definitely not just Italian. I think she was a little in shock when I told her what town I was from. I was dressed in shorts and sandals, very little make-up, and hair pulled back.

When I told her I wasn’t a fan, she said “Oh, you don’t watch the show?” I responded with yes, I do, but I’m not a fan of hers by any means. She then said that alot of what I see is in the editing, and it makes people look bad to some people. I said that she should own it, a la Bethenny and that it is what it is. She said some people get portrayed differently and I said that is the beauty of the internet and public records. The truth lies in the court documents and public records. She didn’t respond to that.

Thanks everyone for your kind words – I’m glad I went and said my piece. One other thing is kind of curious though, and I forgot to mention it. Everyone joked about a book signing in a salon, right? Instead of Barnes & Noble, etc. Very interesting was that they had a stack of books on the front desk, and they were collecting $20 cash per book. No sales tax, nada. Isn’t this considered “unreported income?” Just another one of the things that make you go “Hmmmm”

@Ella, if you can believe it, her makeup is even heavier and more tacky in person. The only thing I could think was that maybe, just maybe she put on as much makeup as she would for filming, when we all know that filming requires more makeup. But then I realized, this is real life…she must do this on a daily basis! LOL  As for the tan, yes, she was just as orange in person but then again, so were most of the girls on line.

She had the bangs going, and that look actually worked for her since you couldn’t see her forehead. I really wanted to ask her to pull the bangs up, but that would’ve been going a little too far. My only regret was not bringing Mickey’s picture with me. I printed it, but completely forgot it when I walked out of the house.

Sorry Mickey!

Thank you again Laura for the great recap of your evening!

Dina Manzo is apparently reading all of the blogs that are saying the same thing, Tommy Manzo is her husband in name only, they’re never photographed together, Tommy refuses to appear in public with Dina and reports are that he has his own apartment near his business, The Brownstone. 

Dina tweeted this today:  Ahhaaaaa love my husband! I told him I was tweeting pics! I guess he wants nothing to do with Twitter too! lo http://tweetphoto.com/38533488

A photograph of Tommy, driving while wearing a suit and with his hand in front of his face so you can barely tell who it is.  Apparently he doesn’t care how their marriage appears in public but clearly Dina does.  Sorry Dina, still not buying the loving couple bullshit!

Another wonderful poster here One More In Boston writes:


just got off the phone with an old friend from NYC. She got married, and now lives…drumroll please… down the street from the BrownStone.

She says that her husband is friends/aquantainces with the Manzos, that she believes that Dina’s husband is bisexual or maybe “half-gay” whatever that means, he does own a condo/house across from the BrownStone, but that it’s not for trysts but so he won’t have to drive home if he’s had a few drinks after work.

She says that Caroline is teeny, tiny in real life, and that you wouldn’t recognize her in the street she looks so different.

She has met Dina-and doesn’t like her. Says they have been at a few social events together and Dina is very quiet and standoffish. Her husband defends Dina by saying that she’s been sick lately (???) My friend says she is very thin, almost too much so.

But my friend did go to the LadyBug Foundation’s last event-it was some sort of Girls Night Out that had a Morrocan theme. She said thousands of women were there and that she had “a blast”.

Has never met Danielle, but has seen her outside of the gym and that they go to the same nail salon. She says she’s VERY pretty in real life and that my friend “wants” to hate her, but has no reason to-she seems very pleasant.

Says Jacqueline’s husband is gorgeous and SUPER cute, and they both seem to have a good reputation in the town, but their daughter not so much.

well, that’s all I was able to get-my little brush with the HWONJ. I couldn’t wait to share!

Thank you for sharing that with us One More In Boston!  Love it!

Many were questioning Jill’s talk of “branding” which is what Bethenny talked about starting in Season One of RHONY, Bethenny never made any bones about it, that is what she was doing.   Jill having never had anything to “brand” has started to talk about her very own “branding” and now has a logo and everything!  She has posted “Jill Zarin Home” on her Twitter page, you can see both here:  http://twitter.com/Jillzarin  Bed linens Jill?  That’s the best you can do? 

If anyone still questions whether or not these housewives read the blogs and the comments, these last two items should remove any doubt.  Not just this blog and comments, but the others are all talking about some of the same things that we are.  It’s not a coincidence that there was a recent thread about Jill’s “Branding” nonsense and suddenly she has a logo and tag line.  It isn’t just a fluke that Dina is making attempts to post her husbands’ photograph after her relationship was questioned. 

Dina continues to block anyone that she assumes is associated with me, I’ve posted a web site that I thought was funny and that you’d all enjoy, now she’s blocked them on her Twitter account:

@Putyourhairup  @dinamanzo Why don’t u just admit u blocked me bc I follow @lynnnchicago. Bc I never gave u a reason 2 block. Nvr said anything negative 2u.

Here are Dina’s Tweets to @putyourhairup:

@PutYourHairUp Do u think I remember exactly why? All I know is I only block hate on here. Just be nice, remember we have kids that see this

@PutYourHairUp u don’t make jokes, ur mean. I’m just trying to help u. Watch how much better life gets when ur nice. I don’t block 4 nothing   

@PutYourHairUp try being nice, it makes you a happier person. What u put out comes back to u! Don’t forget that sunshine : )

@PutYourHairUp yes, that is exactly why I tweeted pics of him. To prove to u & the other hags u hang w that I have a husband. You got me : )

Dina calls people “hags” then tells others to be “nice”?   Dina, you don’t have to prove you have a husband, we all saw the circus you put on for television, but that doesn’t mean a thing when he doesn’t live with you! 

Well Dina did forwarn everyone and I truly hope that I’m not the cause of this “block” because clearly @putyourhairup is upset about it so let me formally apologize if it is due to my posting her web site.  She also posted this however: 

Ahhh I was wondering why I got so many extra hits today.
Thanks for the shout out Lynn!
I always get extra hits when u post my link

I hope that makes up for Dina blocking you, just a little bit?  If you haven’t checked out her web page yet, she’s got some hysterical looking photos of the housewives up that she just posted, take a look:


Always a great read:  http://thereallyoldhousewivesofmanateecounty.blogspot.com/

Next Blog – Bethenny Getting Married?  Lost Footage

Until Next Time…


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418 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of DC August 13, 2010

  1. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Mary always has that same look on her face
    the thing that botthered me the most about her on this eppy was the fact that she was moaning about the dog shedding
    honey if thats the worst thing you have to contend with in your life count your blessings
    and the one that runs the modeling agency do i detect shades of jill there
    sorry i agree with Stacie on this Cat was just downright rude first you dont tell someone the wine seems like it is thousands of years old you dispose of it descreetly you dont try to put down the hostess in thier own home and you never leave before dessert unless there is a family emergency
    also im not a huge fan of Theresa’s either but i think the one that went for the book was going simply to be rude to her and see what kind of reaction she got
    and having baited Theresa ,it seems that Theresa must have learned how to shrug it off as her replies dont sound nearly as rude as the one that went there


    • Gina says:

      Mary and her husband looked stoned. I’m serious. When the two of them are talking together they both have this dull, glassy eyed look and seem disconnected. They are definitely on something or too much wine.

      • dumberries says:

        Hee hee – I thought the same thing. They have the same glazed look as the Curtins on OC. I don’t care much if they are stoned and not driving or with their kids, but funny you had the same observation!

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      “also im not a huge fan of Theresa’s either but i think the one that went for the book was going simply to be rude to her and see what kind of reaction she got
      and having baited Theresa ,it seems that Theresa must have learned how to shrug it off as her replies dont sound nearly as rude as the one that went there”

      Actually Phillip, I wasn’t rude. If I wanted to be rude, I could have said alot more to her re: DUI, incessant spending, obnoxious children. Now THAT would’ve been rude. I chose to go, see what it was like, report back but at no time did I want her to believe she had one extra fan.

      • Dwight Schrute says:

        Although I’m not a fan of the shrill Teresa either I agree with DJ.

        You went looking for a reaction and seem disappointed you didn’t get one. From your own description you seemed to have gone there, disparged everything, made a point to tell her you didn’t care much for her and hoped she would yell and flip the table and instead she engaged you in conversation.

        And yes, the comment about who she was staying with at the Shore was rude even if she didn’t understand it. The examples that you cite in your reply just shows that you were not as rude as you wanted to be.

        • nancy says:

          troll alert, Laura. I did not find that you were rude, etc. Hey, if these people were closer they too may have went for a peek-see

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Hi Philip-

      I respectfully disagree that “but I think the one that went for the book was going simply to be rude to her”

      Public censure can be done in a polite respectful way.

      It may have been uncomfortable for Theresa to be put in the position of dealing with a non-fan, but the very reason that Laura is not a fan of Theresa is Theresa’s own behavior.

      I don’t believe that confrontation, if done in a respectful way, is rude. Laura kept her comments to the issue of the bankruptcy and the lies that have been exposed. She didn’t tell Theresa that she’s ugly, or a bad mother, or that her husband is stepping out on her.

      To declare bankruptcy of $11M, to go on TV and then have DOCUMENTATION that you have lied and grossly misrepresented the facts of your bankruptcy is a criminal offense. All of us in society will have to absorb that debt.

      For example, several years ago, my late mother and I were sitting down to lunch in a very nice restaurant when OJ Simpson came in. This was after the criminal trail but before the civil trail.

      My mother immediately cancelled our order and got up to leave. She felt that sitting in a restaurant with a man who she believed killed two people was condoning his act and wanted to make a statement.

      We didn’t cause a scene, no words were exchanged, but my mother did speak to the restaurant manager and told him why we were leaving. OJ Simpson glanced at us; he knew we were leaving because of him.

      My point is: when we take a stand, no matter how small, against criminal activities that bring harm to others, it can be done in a polite way.

      • dumberries says:

        I agree with Laura and OneMore. No rudeness was exhibited and it was a public forum. Teresa got her 20 bucks and probably didn’t lose any sleep over the brief encounter anyway. I would not support someone going and cursing, criticizing Teresa’s looks, or children, making a scene, etc… But, to go out of curiosity and respond honestly to questions that were directly posed to Laura by Teresa was perfectly reasonable, imo.

    • Ican'tstandTeresa(theLIAR) says:

      I wonder if you had a problem with Teresa when she wanted to “only say hello” to Danielle before chasing her out of the restaurant, screaming hateful things and condoning the hair pull Trashley so proudly accomplished. Mind you this was in front of more the 100 people. I wonder: Was Teresa going to simply be rude to Danielle and to see what kind of reaction she got from Danielle? Was Teresa, Ashley, and Jaq trying to bait Danielle that night? Things that make u go hmmmmmm?

  2. Night Light says:

    I like the RHODC except the Salahi’s. They remind me of Alex and Simon in season 1 & 2. They try too hard! But all in all the 4 seem pretty harmless and I did enjoy the banter & inappropriate behavior. The penis conversation was a bit much and its true I don’t think men who are secure with their package have those type of conversations. I am with Ebong, ask the women if they have any complaints.

  3. MAMAZ says:

    Good morning Lynn. I wasn’t overly impressed with Lynda either. I thought it was very Jill-like to tell the owner of a Virginia winery that California wine was the best. But I don’t feel that she actually started a rumor that Michaela has an eating disorder. She asked a mutual friend to discuss it with her. Working in the fashion industry she is probably hyper aware of eating disorders. She owned up to having said it and stands by her asessment. It is obvious that she doesn’t like the Salawhi’s and mentioned them not paying their bills more than once. Perhaps they used her agency and stiffed her on the bill.

    Cat was terrible at Aunt Francine’s. Her demand for a drink was shocking. She treated them like they were hired help. That was probably the first step in Stacie jumping to the racism conclusion. Turning her nose up at the wine was a display of very poor manners as was leaving before dessert. I don’t care how uncomfortable she was she’s an adult and should have made an effort. Like Stacie I’m not sure if it’s because it was a “black environment” or as Stacie’s husband suggested she is rude no matter where she is. Judging from the way she acted at lunch with Mary I think she’s rude everywhere. It was not her place to say anything to Mary’s daughter.

    Michaele – Sparkle? SPARKLE? It’s a horse not a My Little Pony!

    All in all I think I liked Rich and Ebong the best. Maybe they should do the Real Husbands of DC.

    • alicia says:

      Where do I begin ? Cat- obviously very english.If you put three englishmen in a room -two will form a club and ban the third from joining ! In her defense I know I would feel alittle awkward at a party where i didn’t know anyone well.Her husband is probably her buffer- very engaging and fun.
      Mary- sheesh , requesting that your maid wash the walls?Who does that? When she shrinks your shorts in the dryer she will get her revenge ! Stop whining about the dog, you have a maid to vaccum. Some of us vaccum our very own dog hair- it’s the price you pay for”fur therapy”. Also, what is going on with this chick’s face ? Gawker called it a “face foldening”.Whatevs
      Lynda- like your boyfriend, no problems with you. Alittle weird that your son’s girlfriend is your assistant-she dosen’t mind doing your mundane tasks for you ?
      Michaele- TOTAL POSER. She dosen’t know anything about horses or how to ride.She reminds me of Auntie mame on the foxhunt! Flouncing around in dressage riding pants when she clearly does not ride is an affront to those who do. Mary and Cat actually looked more balanced in the saddle. The horses were pretty sweet to put up wih that torture.My horse would have trotted over to a far corner of the field and dumped her ass! Actually that would have been a fitting end to this scene…
      Stacie- stacie is a normal mom who works and probably supports her husband the “inventor”. Inviting Cat to a family party was way out of Cat’s league- she just isn’t that friendly or engaging. She is probably best among her circle of close friends. Closed club not accepting new members.

      • Snarkella says:

        Alicia, unfortunately I have to agree with you about the English comment. My husband is English and he is the light of my life, BUT . . . I have had to put up with his family and friends for 8 years now! I hate to generalize, but most of them behave just like Cat. I don’t think they mean any harm and probably have no idea how rude them appear. But they constantly make snide little remarks about Americans. I honestly don’t know what to make of it. It’s so ignorant to make offensive comments and then act surprised when people are offended. I am interested to see how the DC ladies are going to cope with this aspect of Cat’s personality, because it is sure to continue.

      • JenD says:

        I agree with you. Stacie’s husband might be a bum. She probably settled. I mean the woman went to Harvard,
        She’s beautiful, smart and now she’s married to a penile measurement inventor. I mean come on. Smart black
        women (i’m african american) have issues with finding mates up to their standards or level, so she settled.

      • Quincy IL says:

        I think they were in the enclosure and those horses were used to working there. I don’t care about Michaela’s pants. I have a friend who trained and cared for the horses for 2 olympics and she wore that type of pants when I wore jeans for years. What difference does that make?

        • alicia says:

          Her pants are not traditional riding breeches-they have what is called a “full seat”. This is indicative of someone who studies dressage- a upper level type of riding that
          is like “horse ballet”. Go on you tube and google upper level dressage. I guess the difference she is a poser and it’s insulting to people who compete and ride that this chick wears this like her halloween costume.I know this probably only bugs me so sorry for the rant!

          • Quincy IL says:

            The Arab Shows have costumed riders around here. That would be more up Michaela’s alley, right? LOL.

        • She told her friends they were to wear jeans. Then she shows up in full riding gear, sitting in a fancy chair on a red carpet = she’s just like the bride who choses fat, ugly girls to be bridesmaids so no one upstages her.

  4. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lynn, it will be a challenge to blog RHODC as these women are no so interesting….. What bothers me is that these ladies will give us lots of manners/protcol tidbits but they are actually removed from the power players – reminds me of NJ thinking they can compete with NY….

    But we should all be thankful that Missy got a pony for her birthday – isn’t that every little girl’s dream gift?! And she named the pony Sparkles no less! What I want to know is what husband sets a table full of gifts for his wife and then says choose just one?????

    • Snarkella says:

      I am so fed up with these greedy housewives. If my husband said just choose one, I’d be ever so grateful and appreciative and then I’d choose ONE.

      • Quincy IL says:

        but, who brings the store wares to your home? I have to go to the store and look at purses on the sale rack.

  5. Olivia says:

    The second outing of the DC “wives” was another boring outing featuring a variety of people who are so totally irrelevant. I promised I would not watch this mess a second time but I admit to being somewhat “shallow” when it comes to breaking promises.

    Another episode featuring “dog poop” (what’s with Bravo’s fascination with this subject?) and some poor soul being ordered to clean it up along with shampooing the rugs and washing down the walls, while probably expecting nothing more than minimum wage paycheck, was stultifying. Mary is perhaps the most vapid “wife” ever presented and that includes Kelly who usually ranks higher on my meter but this one is dull, dull, dull.

    What’s with the penile measurer? Who needs that? Watch for this item to show up on Stacie’s blog as a “link” to a purchase for “the guy/girl who has everything” and just in time for Christmas shopping. Are we supposed to be impressed with this guy’s innovation? “Buy my crap” has just reached an all time high with this latest venture. Meaningless.

    With all of her “money”, Michaele’s hair looks like hell. You would think for someone who spends as much time as she does at spas, and having her personal makeup applied by the bucketful, that she would at least do something with that pile of spaghetti falling onto her shoulders. Not sure which is more objectionable, Michaele or Tarek, but they are battling it out for first place. Horror shows!

    We have now been informed that Cat was once a “hostess” and a lap dancer. Move over Danielle! This one is even more difficult to understand as she speaks with a her teeth clenched but accompanied by a smile as she “cuts” her way through a scene putting her unnecessary arrogance on display. Wholly unlikable.

    Lynda is the worst. “Slashing and burning” and trying to impress with her snobbish idea of what and what is not acceptable in good old Foggy Bottom. That smirk on her face is just dying to get knocked off and she is about as interesting a character as Lu Ann. She has had so much facial reconstruction that it is a sure bet that her own mother probably has trouble picking her out of the crowd. Insufferable.

    Every franchise has managed to “celebrate” someone’s birthday, whether one from the main cast, or possibly an ancillary player whom everyone just “loves”. Not sure who the guy is who was having his own hair and make up applied before the big event, but the whole thing was beyond stupid. He was “disappointed” in the party given by Lynda the year before because it only included 30 or so of his closest friends so this year he wanted an all out bash. Who actually expects other people to accommodate that selfish request? And what’s with the police escort? Or the horse? Or all those “gifts” strewn all over the couch when it is rumored that these people don’t bother to pay bills? Incredible.

    These people are out and out laughable with their perceived slights and make believe world of “access”. There is nothing even remotely interesting about any one of them. If nothing else, it makes me feel even sorrier for the “hired help” whose main duty in life is to indulge these women trying so hard to impress the rest of us.

    The “formula” used in this series of nobodies is wearing thin. Bravo would be better suited to fix their cameras on the lives of the women who are expected to pick up after these airheads as they go about their lives trying to survive. That may shed more light on “reality” than this bunch of impossible wannabes.

    • skogsstig says:

      YES!!! to your entire last paragraph, Olivia!
      Of course, your entire post is, as always, thoughtful and beautifully written, but that last paragraph is not just the icing on the cake but the whole party. 😉

    • Ellabean says:

      Tha’ts one of the reason why we love Zoila!

  6. skogsstig says:

    Alrighty… I tried two episodes of DC, and that’s enough. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop reading the blogs and comments here, though – this site is my not-so-guilty pleasure of the day.
    Enough of Mary, the “super-mom,” who does cook breakfast but can’t deal with the after-effects of a dog. And who says that Rosa doesn’t understand English, “so I speak Spanish to her.” Yeah. “Mucho mess!” “Shampoo the rug.” Doesn’t even qualify as Spanglish. And, forgive me, she’s b-o-r-i-n-g.
    Enough of Cat, whose attempts at seeming upper crust British fail as soon as she opens her mouth. Her speech pattern alone is a dead give-away, but her lack of manners even more so. Her Tyra impersonation wasn’t just rude, it was racist.
    Enough of Michaele and Tareq, self-centered, self-aggrandizing posers who seem to excel only at spending money they do not have.
    Lynda, while bitchy, at least seems to be a competent business woman. Last night I loved the “knotted-rope furniture” in her home – visually interesting! But enough to keep me watching? Don’t think so.
    Stacie has the most promise. Another competent business woman who has a pretty great family -if one ignores the penile volume conversation – and the line of the evening belongs to her aunt Frances. Somebody’s husband (don’t remember who) asked what she was drinking. “Everything I can, but right now I’m drinking Scotch.”

    I don’t think even aunt Frances will be enough to keep me watching. But I adore this blog and all the commentators, so I’ll keep on reading. Many thanks to Lynn and all who contribute here!

  7. MickeyMouth says:

    Thanks for blogging DC Lynn. I haven’t given up on them yet. I really don’t know how I feel about any of them with the exception of the Salahis. After two episodes I don’t like them and after reading her blog I felt like responding in the immortal words of Tamra “you’re such a f’ing victim”.

    I always find these getting to know you episodes to be contrived. My verdict is out on Cat. It appears to me that Stacie and her are friendly so whatever transpired they’re good now. I do find her scenes difficult to watch. Mary is coming off blah to me and I have to agree with Cat, although I would never say that to someone who wasn’t a really close friend, that she’s making her bed when it comes to Lolly.

    So far Lynda seems honest. Her business is suffering and instead of pretending she admits it. She doesn’t like the Salahis and she isn’t holding back. Paul should not have been put in the middle of the skinny comments but I don’t think he minded. He seems to like to be all up in their business.

    Michaela was reminding me of Kelly last night. Enough said.

    I like Stacie and her family. Are they good TV? Verdict still out.

    Anyway still watching, for now.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Americans are extremely sensitive when it comes to race. The British are not. They are in your face about their superiority. I think they have dreams of Empire during their sleep cycles.

      I still miss HD. There really was no reason for her to be upset with this site. I looked at the posts that I thought concerned her and I think she should have stayed and worked things out so that we could all become more as Bethenny suggests.

      Stacy needs to lighten up too. She went to Harvard with Barak afterall.

  8. Obsessed with RH says:

    Teresa had a book signing in a town near mine which I was contemplating going to to tell her to get a forehead and a few other choice phrases with some expletives involved. Then I found out that in order to attend the event, you had to purchase $75.00 worth of merchandise from the store in which the book signing was being held. She wrote a COOKBOOK, which wasn’t even written BY her, not a Pulitzer Prize winning novel, and she’s forcing people to purchase merchandise they don’t need in order to see her Foreheadless-Highness? I hope she has to use the pages of her book to keep her warm at night in her cardboard box that she will be sharing with Juicy and her bratty daughters.

    • Ellabean says:

      Obsessed – I’m curious about that $75. must-do purchase for Teresa’s in-store appearance. Did the $75. include her book with signature ?

      Would love to know what store (name) – or at least what type of store – cooking/housewares ? apparel ?

      • Obsessed with RH says:

        The $75.00 was in ADDITION to the cost of the book. In order to walk in and have Teresa sign the book, you had to purchase $75.00 of merchandise in the store. The store is called Enchante and it is a beauty/cosmetics type store in Bronxville, NY.

  9. jezzibel says:

    I moved to the States when I was 12..so on a small level I feel a smidgen bad for Cat….However
    1. She is unquestionly rude and has atrocious manners.
    2 I think that before her move to the US, she was in the low to middle class bracket, and is acting how she thinks upperclass English act and also how she thinks Americans think the English upperclass act.
    3. The wine thing..there is the possiblity that she opened a bottle of wine that had gone off..becoming more vinigar then wine and thought that she was doing the decent thing by letting her know the wine was bad..However maybe not, she is incredibly rude(but with editing who knows).
    4. I think someone should have explained southern cooking to her if it was her first time having real southern comfort food. I think that the grease reusing, she did’nt make the connection that is like deglazing or drippings.
    5. I don’t think she’s racist..just rude…the fact that at the dinner party for Paul she was introspective enough to worry that she had offended Staci…is a signifier that she’s not racist, just rude with horrible manners.
    6. Can we ask Bravo to just make Paul a Official housewife of DC if there is another season?

    • jezzibel says:

      I meant smigden of sympathy

    • Olivia says:

      Cat is just plain rude. Think of Jill complaining about the seating arrangements at a fashion show, the food Ramona served at her cosmetic opening, the constant whining in every episode about one thing or another, and you have her counterpart in Cat.

      But this series is treading in some very dangerous waters as they continue to insert race and politics into the conversation. A great way to lose viewers is to expect them to “choose sides” in this arena when they tune into a “reality show” based on vapidity. It is one thing to take sides in a girlfriend feud but quite another to avoid political affiliations and racist intentions just to gin up the drama.

      This is not “Hardball” or “Hannity” programming but superficial fluff that should not be confused with deep analysis. Especially coming from this crew.

      • Earring Girl says:

        @Jezzibel –
        4. I think someone should have explained southern cooking to her if it was her first time having real southern comfort food. I think that the grease reusing, she did’nt make the connection that is like deglazing or drippings.

        Your response about the grease reusing is incorrect it is not deglazing or drippings. It’s really what it says – you start out with fresh crisco, fry whatever (chicken, etc.), after finishing you strain the grease and reuse it again to fry whatever or add into vegetables in place of butter/margerine or olive oil. This is an old southern tradition and it is not so popular today since the trend is “healthful ” eating 🙂 (Kelly quote), but it probably is still done in some households in the north and south. I just wanted to clear that up. LOL

        • jezzibel says:

          Sorry I should have made that clearer. If someone had told Cat its like reusing the oil in the chip pan..adds more flavor to the chips, she might not have had that look on her face.
          I’ve been to North Carolina..that Southern Tradition is a live and kicking. 😉

        • I’m so southern, I thought everyone grew up with a coffee can of bacon grease in the fridge.

          • jezzibel says:

            moms got her’s in a rubbermade container in the freezer.

          • MrWestVirginia says:

            Same here–Free Ginger!! And we still use a little bit of grease when cooking green beans.

          • Tootsie says:

            Back when I was a kid, during WWII, bacon grease was used a lot. Butter and some lards were rationed, so you fried foods in bacon grease. I even knew of someone who ate bacon grease spread on a piece of bread in those days, YUK

            • That’s Depression cooking, too. One of my favorite meals growing up was something my mom ate often during the Depression: Fried spam (with pineapple on top<–added after my uncle returned from the Pacific) & fried grits. I wouldn't touch spam today, but we were always happy to see that on our plates growing up. 🙂

  10. Obsessed with RH says:


    The moron’s blog is up as is her pathetic attempt to say that Joe wasn’t drunk when he was driving and that he “no longer drives at night.” That’s because his license was REVOKED you half wit.

    • vilzvet says:

      Oh brother I can’t even get past the second paragraph so far, she’s describing herself as “his beautiful wife”? It was probably his beautiful GIRLFRIEND he ended the night with!

    • The second was that Joe was completely
      fine. He had to crawl out of the window (which I’m pretty sure you couldn’t do
      successfully without even getting a scratch if you were drunk).

      Uh, wrong you stupid baboon, just wrong. There are plenty of accidents caused by drunks where they walk away but their victims don’t. Booze is a muscle relaxant & since drunks are too toasted to realize they’re about to mow down a line of kids or grannies, they’re all relaxed & calm & stuff.

  11. Lovebeth says:

    Teresa’s blog is all BS, too much lies. She is still blaming Danielle oh Lord!

    • vilzvet says:

      I won’t even bother reading the comments to come because Bravo is not going to allow any answers to her ridiculous statements….”How cute was Milania falling asleep on her cake…” etc….

    • dumberries says:

      Total BS. Seems like she wrote it to counter all the public speculation about the accident, but the obvious details she leaves out make me more suspicious. To clear the whole thing up, all she has to do is provide 2 simple confirmations:

      1. The restaurant staff and other customers that night confirm that Juicy wasn’t drinking at all (or 1/4 glass of wine only).
      2. The time and location of the accident matches with Joe leaving the restaurant with the rest of the gang and heading straight for home (no gaps, no opportunities to stop elsewhere).

      If this were the scenario, wouldn’t Joe, Jac and Teresa have brought this up immediately when defending Joe this week? Likely, unbiased confirmation of these two simple points would support the “yawn” defense and make people more inclined to accept that Juicy is just unbelievably stupid in downing shots after the accident. But, it seems pretty obvious to me that he went out after dinner and tied one on before getting behind the wheel again. Between Joe, Jac and Teresa’s defense of “sober Joe” this week, none of them has said that he left with them and was right behind them on his way home at the time of the crash. They can’t say it because there must be dozens of witnesses as to when that big group left the restaurant and I doubt it was just before 1 a.m.

      This really makes me frustrated. Sadly, don’t think the police can prove his lame “glove box” defense isn’t true, even though they don’t believe him or the mystery witness who’s house he stumbled into (his dad’s, his dad’s friend, a neighbor – that person keeps changing every time I read about it).
      He has such an atrocious driving record, you would think he would have learned his lesson and wouldn’t want to endanger the lives of other people. Not so. He is clearly reckless and I wouldn’t want my family anywhere near him on the road. Whether drunk or exhausted, he shouldn’t have been driving and I can’t believe he still has a license. Ughhhh…

      Also, notice how in her blog, Teresa now says that she left the kids with Caroline to take care of seasick Joe and the baby? She must have read all the comments about how rude and gross it was that she and Joe just had to bump uglies on the family cruise. Total change of story, again…

      • vilzvet says:

        The mental picture gets worse: she wanted to straddle a nauseous vomiting Joe…but I bet in reality the baby was sleeping and Joe was passed out. She was just sitting there while her kids were in the suffering Caroline’s care.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Someone here (sorry i can’t remember who), on one of the previous blogs a couple days ago or so, posted a map of where Joe’s accident was. If the map is indeed correct, the accident wasn’t on the direct way home from NYC. Juicy was either going somewhere other than his home or coming back from somewhere other than his home.

        If he didn’t hardly drink at dinner, then he got “tired” somewhere else before the accident. No reasonable person believes (and neither did the court) that this simply “tired” person (with a miserable driving record and a long history of license suspension and experience in traffic court), has an accident and then goes and gets drunk over the legal limit before the cops can find him.

        And, based on news reports, Juicy isn’t appealing the conviction on DWI. He’s only appealing the portion of his sentence that requires 30 days community svs or jail. He’s not appealing the conviction or the license suspension.

        • dumberries says:

          Thanks @NeedAHobby for clarifying that Juicy is only appealing the community service portion of his DWI conviction. I wrongly inferred that he was legally contesting the fact that he was driving while intoxicated.

          The police and the judge didn’t believe his glove box defense and they don’t have to prove anything more. He was found guilty and is not contesting that he was intoxicated. He is without a license for 12 months, paid some fines, and got 30 days community service tacked on because of his past driving infractions (rather than 30 days in jail). See article below.

          I guess Teresa and Jac’s continuing to support of his lame story this week is just to maintain the high level of respect that the Giudice’s and the NJ HWs have earned (cough). Teresa’s blog stated today that “he no longer drives at night”, like he has a choice and he is being careful and responsible. Lying sack… She must use Zarin’s PR people for damage control… (I would still love to know what really happened that night)


    • bonbon says:

      Here’s what’s A-mazing: Her blog has been up for almost 24 hours and there is only ONE comment in response to it! What does this mean?
      I really believe that her “fans” are onto her and writing in negatives which Bravo doesn’t want to publish. Bravo has a history of throwing in a few negatives (usually later) and publishing the positives to make the viewers think that their cast is popular.
      Bravo only publishes my comments if they are positive..which has been about 3 times only.

    • And also calling Caroline & Joe to task for being “crabby” on the cruise. I guess the fact that she KNEW they were sick & STILL made them babysit ALL DAY LONG had absolutely nothing to do with their attitudes. None whatsoever.

      • Shows you how much attention I pay to this damn show……Joe supposedly was “too sick” (hungover??) to go to a cooking class with the Baboon. But still, bad form to complain about Caroline’s attitude when she contributed to it.

        • dumberries says:

          Yeah, I found the remark about Caroline being crabby very odd too. Like that’s the reason anyone would dare discipline her angelic girls. Caroline called herself “crabby” and Teresa jumped on it. Honestly, I think I would have been much crabbier watching Teresa’s kids when she, her husband, two grandparents, and sitting staff were all on the ship. And, Teresa knew about Caroline’s kidney stones. Unbelievable.

          • felony stupid says:

            Teresa has as much nerve as she is lacking in forehead. She should appreciate the fact that someone agreed to watch her kids for her so that Juicy could sleep it off and she could run around in her bathrobe. Caroline isn’t even family and she gets these kids dumped on her? Just ick.

  12. JenD says:

    Hey Lynn, I definitely believe Boston when it comes to Danielle, i think she can be pretty when she wants to. Dina is quiet because she knows no one. Tommy is definitely bisexual, Dina had a picture of him in the kitchen with aprons on and one hand on the hip…lol. BTW Dina has been going off on “Putyourhairup” on twitter. Here are her rants:
    This is Dina, i think this was regarding her twitting her husband pic.

    @PutYourHairUp Do u think I remember exactly why? All I know is I only block hate on here. Just be nice, remember we have kids that see this
    about 6 hours ago via web in reply to PutYourHairUp
    @PutYourHairUp u don’t make jokes, ur mean. I’m just trying to help u. Watch how much better life gets when ur nice. I don’t block 4 nothing
    about 6 hours ago via web in reply to PutYourHairUp
    @PutYourHairUp try being nice, it makes you a happier person. What u put out comes back to u! Don’t forget that sunshine : )
    about 7 hours ago via web
    @PutYourHairUp yes, that is exactly why I tweeted pics of him. To prove to u & the other hags u hang w that I have a husband. You got me : )

    • Ellabean says:

      It is definitely odd that Dina is tweeting so much after she made the decision to leave the show. She’s very defensive.

      And has way too much time on her hands.

      • Quincy IL says:

        I wouldn’t call Dina a hag. Of course, I am rubber and she is glue.

        • MAMAZ says:

          So Dina tells PutYourHairUp to be nice, that doing so will make you a happier person and life will be better. Then she calls her a hag. lol. REAL NICE DINA!

  13. nancy says:


    OT Please do not be too disappointed in Reality Tea. Many times in this past week they have stepped up and either deleted comments all together or partially. This tweetybird really slams us over here and Reality Tea tells them in so many words to knock it off. This always comes after their posters start to go on a rant about us.

  14. nancy says:

    sorry meant Tweety slams us over there.

    • jezzibel says:

      I’ve seen that…whoever that person is has a serious issue with Lynn, the blog and we the commentors…I’ve given off going over there and reading the comments because of it, and most to the commentors over there are pretty insightful

  15. Snarkella says:

    What stood out for me last night was Sparkle’s mom saying that people think she’s in her 30’s. Oh dear, it’s never a good idea to brag about how young you think you look, and it’s usually done by people who do not actually look younger. I think (can’t remember how to spell her dam name so I’ll call her Mike) Mike looks older than 44. She is a bit drawn, especially around the mouth. Wouldn’t have mentioned it but she brought it up.

    Loved the family dinner Stacie invited the ladies to attend. I agree that Cat was rude although I don’t think she does it purposely. I got the impression that she left the dinner after the conversation about reusing Crisco. That would have made me a little queasy as well. Old Crisco and bad wine, that was probably too much for her to handle. I have English in-laws and they are very hesitant to eat American food in any situation. There’s a lot of rubbish in the British papers about American food being genetically engineered and that type of thing. Genetically engineered and we recycle Crico indefinitely. I’m sure that’s what Cat is telling her friends back home

    • MAMAZ says:

      Well a lot of our food IS genetically engineered. Europe has much stricter laws about that sort of thing. However she’s a grown woman and one would think she would know how to handle an awkward social situation. I think Stacie had a point when she said Cat wasn’t enjoying herself because she wasn’t the center of attention.
      What does Cat do for a living? Many professional people are put into situations where they have to socialize with strangers. You learn how to ask questions, find the common bond or explore differences. I was raised in the North East, a Yankee through and through. The first time I ate grits was a shock. I didn’t care for it, still don’t, but my hostess never knew. Meals are a perfect way to get to know other cultures. Cat could have asked about the food, how to cook collards, why do you reuse the Crisco, etc. She could have learned something about the US South, and impressed her hosts. Instead she insulted them and learned nothing.
      I haven’t seen enough about her to know if she is racist but she has proven herself to be rude. I know perfectly charming British people with wonderful manners and social skills.

      • Squirrels says:

        She should take a lesson from Julie Andrews. Now THAT woman has class.

        • anniieee says:

          We always had to take a “polite bite or two” and who knew…maybe we liked it and learned new stuff. My kids did and and know their children are the reciepents of the polite bite school.

  16. TLM says:

    I think I stumbled upon part of the Mary / Cat aka Keith Richards luncheon on RHODC just before I fell asleep, and if I had just woken up, I still would have fallen asleep. Someone mentioned Cat was put off by talk about southern cooking with Crisco? Please. This woman comes from a country where people eat bowls of eels, eat brains and kidneys and oxtails, and make pudding out of blood, (Yes, that’s right, “blood pudding” isn’t just an expression) and she’s judging southern cooking? To paraphrase Jason Hoppy, Cat needs to get the stick out of her ass, and maybe also invest in a lifetime supply of Halls lozeges and elocution lessons. And lay off the Marlboros already.

    I saw some scene where Mrs. Salahi was on a shopping spree at home that was reminiscent of Kim Zolciak’s Dior home delivery and just rubbed me the wrong way. At least Big Poppa paid all the bills and wasn’t stiffing people left and right, as it sounds like these two have.

    The only thing that would make me want to watch this series is if Michaele Salahi punched out the escort service/modeling agency woman, or if the Sotheby’s realtor punched out Cat, because I would be living through them vicariously. So if I see a commercial that shows that, I may tune in again and have my popcorn ready. Otherwise, I don’t really care what these people do.

    I was busy doing other things while Bethenny’s “lost” footage was on (Really? It got LOST in the intervening week between the supposed last episode one week ago and last night??!!? Enough with the “lost footage” crap, Bravo. Just call it “The Extra footage,” or “The very last episode, no really, this time we mean it footage.” I didn’t even care enough about the show or its characters to set aside time to sit down and watch it. Any time I came into the room, it seemed like I was watching the same scenes I saw in the series. Nothing new or interesting. I don’t understand why Bethenny would brag on Facebook that there was a scene somewhere in this show that was “even cruder!” than what we saw in BGM, after having apologized for the peeing episode and the “100 ways to say penis” finale extravaganza. What is there for an encore, Bethenny and Jason getting rectal exams on camera? I have less than no interest.

  17. Char212 says:

    Here’s my take on the DC women,

    Cat is as Stacie said “Straight Up Rude”. She thinks she can say anything she wants to anyone she wants but I have a feeling that she wouldn’t take criticism well if she got a taste of her own medicine. I hope we see her get it back before the season ends. She gives Brits and bad name just like Teresa gives Italians a bad name.

    I find it interesting that Lynda is so “concerned” about M’s weight when she looks anorexic to me and not too healthy. She needs to go eat a few cheeseburgers and fries herself in my opinion.

    Michaele is very very child like (another Kelly) Their pretentiousness is insulting knowing what we know about them. Fake as fake can get.

    I’m on the fence about Mary still but I sure didn’t like the way she talked to her maid. She should walk a mile in her shoes for a day and see what it’s like to actually work for a living.

    So far Stacie seems to be the most real out of all of them to me. She has a great career, a wonderful family and just seems nice and caring.

  18. emt2 says:

    I read Alex’s blog about New Jersey and she is really getting on my nerves. It’s interesting that she kind of lets Joe off the hook a bit with the whole drunk driving thing (“I’m still confused about what happened.”) yet she goes in really hard at Danielle for talking about Joe’s accident.

    It seemed very unbalanced and I think that Alex’s friendship with the New Jersey women has tainted her ability to properly state her real opinion. She’s not dumb. She knows that Joe was lying.

    I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion but more and more Alex is grating on my nerves. lol

    • Olivia says:

      Same here. I absolutely abhor the charges of anyone driving while under the influence and finding excuses to absolve the offender is troubling. It is what it is. The man’s alcohol level was very high. How much proof is needed to ensure that yes, he was driving drunk and could have caused more harm to someone else by his actions?

      This goes for Sonja or any other “beloved” cast members who are accused of the same offense. Thank God that in both instances no one was injured but to wave it off that it was nothing more than a”little blip” in the daily life of the accused is pushing incredulity to the limit.

      Alex should have just kept her opinion in this matter to herself. It comes off as self serving and unnecessary when the facts stipulate otherwise. The excuses offered by Joe and the other dimwits on NJ are bad enough but for Alex to weigh in raises the hackles.

      • Kukulet says:

        I’m with you. But when it comes to Sonja, I’m on the fence. I’m not excusing her-I wouldn’t do that-but, as far as I know, it hasn’t been revealed what her blood alcohol content was, or what the findings of the court were, so I’m “withholding judgment for lack of evidence”. 🙂

        I’m disappointed in Alex for even addressing the issue.

        I do believe that Joe didn’t drink more than a small amount of wine at the dinner. I’m just not buying that the dinner took “three hours”, as Jac said (which would mean they didn’t start dining until shortly before 11 p.m.) or that his blood alcohol results were due to his downing several shots after the accident. I believe he downed several shots after the accident, but I also believe he imbibed more that night than he is admitting to, somewhere between leaving the restaurant and the accident.

        (Course, that he was at the restaurant at all is just hearsay. That could also, very easily, be a cover story they all agreed to tell to protect him. It’s not as if Teresa and Juicy are above lying through their teeth.)

        • MAMAZ says:

          I’m also dissappointed that Alex wouldn’t condemn Juicy’s drunken escapade. He was over the legal limit and just lucky that he didn’t harm someone by his selfish behavior.
          When I think of ShadowsNoMore and her son it makes my blood boil.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          If Joe wasn’t drunk/drinking at the restaurant then why would he begin drinking AFTER the accident?

          Don’t you stay with your vehicle and wait for the police and EMT??? Who walks to a neighbor’s house and starts pounding shots?

          • dumberries says:

            Exactly Windy. Only someone who needs a witness to drinking (again) after the accident does that. I never knew there was a name for that lame excuse, “glove box defense”, before reading it on this site. Seems a common lie told by drunk drivers…

  19. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    So much drama just regarding the winery. In 2008 the courts removed them from any affiliation with Oasis winery and haven’t lived at the winery since 2006. http://wcrnews.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/exclusive-salahi-winery-getting-abusive-angry-calls-oasis-manager-pulls-the-plug/

    Also, more info on the winery from the Washington Post:

    The family put it up for sale in 2007, and a year ago it was still on the market for $4.7 million. In February 2009, according to court records, the winery filed for bankruptcy. In a civil suit in Fauquier County Circuit Court last year, Dirgham and Corinne Salahi alleged that Tareq had interfered with the winery’s sale.

    Lastly from Radar Online about the filming at the winery with Cat and Mary:

    That didn’t stop Tareq from allowing a crew from Real Housewives to shoot at the winery on November 9. Mom Corinne was also there and apparently had a meltdown! Corinne Salahi claimed her son and daughter-in-law had no right to be on the property. She even called in the local Sheriff’s Department!

    • Snarkella says:

      LOL! No wonder they weren’t able to offer their guests wine.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        or meet their guests at the house and then accompany them down to the paddock…..and then offering them beer in wine glasses…..posers!

  20. Kansas Girl says:

    Was the riding scene actually at the winery? They seemed to be implying it, but we’ve read that he’s banned from the property and that his mother chained the gates so he couldn’t film there. Could this be why beer was served — they couldn’t get any of their own wine? (It’s not sold somewhere???) I found it surprising that “let’s go riding” turned into a polo lesson from the husband. It was a puzzling scene.

    At Paul’s party, someone told Lynda to be careful because Tareq is dangerous. Interesting.

    • Olivia says:

      It seems to be a “tit for tat” situation. Someone else is quoted on another blog that it was best not go “cross” good old Lynda as well. Judging from what we have seen so far, I believe it. I see her as being much more treacherous than Jill.

  21. Kukulet says:

    Very interesting was that they had a stack of books on the front desk, and they were collecting $20 cash per book. No sales tax, nada. Isn’t this considered “unreported income?”

    Fair question…but probably not. The sale price for a new copy of the book has been reduced to $13.99 and below in book stores and on Amazon…so the $20 most likely included sales tax and other costs, such as venue charge, etc. Teresa isn’t selling the books, the publisher is. I’m not sure who her publisher is, but I’m assuming they are reputable, so it’s unlikely they are ducking out of sales tax-especially given their client’s high profile financial woes.

    It’s possible that Teresa may have bought all those copies and is reselling them…but I doubt it. Since all her financial woes became public, and especially since the bankruptcy filing, I’m sure the IRS and other entities are scrutinizing her every move closely. Especially in terms of revenue via book sales.

    Course, she’s pretty dumb, so anything is possible. 🙂

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Very good point. I guess I’m just used to the usual signings at places like B&N, where you buy at the register, get a receipt, etc.

      • Olivia says:

        I was invited to a book signing once that was held in someone’s home. We were told beforehand that only cash would be accepted, no checks or credit cards.

        It was immediately determined that the author was planning on pocketing receipts without declaring the income from the sale. The book had a flat price of $20.00. No tax was mentioned. Neither was there any need for “change” handed back. Go figure.

        • Kukulet says:

          Well, like I said, Teresa is pretty dumb, so anything is possible. If she did pocket the receipts, without declaring it, I just hope the powers that be nail her on it.

          You can’t stop a grifter from grifting. Personally, given how much Teresa and Joe seem to have grifted, I hope their asses end up in jail.

        • Quincy IL says:

          I see it at local art faires too. One visiting Chicago artist didn’t know that you had to pay tax and she was selling her art everywhere for years.

    • Snarkella says:

      I think you’re right. We own a restaurant and we sell our t-shirts at a round figure with the tax already included. It justs makes it easier for people to pick up as they’re going out the door. It doesn’t mean it’s not reported.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      How many copies would a publisher give to an author for promotional use?? (Record companies used to give cases of new albums to reps to take to radio stations, retail stores, etc to help generate interest and sales….)

  22. Ellabean says:

    DC Wives:

    I am a little fixated on Mary and have mixed opinions. What does her husband do? Or do they just live off of inherited money? her grandpa Arthur Godfrey old family wealth ?

    Yes, there”s something about Mary’s face that is both interestingly pretty and odd at the same time. Depending on lighting and camera angle. She can look extremely young – like early 20’s while she is actually around 42. So Gawker called it ” face folding” ? Husband looks so young and boyish too. They both look like they are still in college much less parents of 5 kids with a few in their late teens/20’s.

    I looked at the still photos of her home on the Bravo site. It is very beautifully decorated. Blacks, whites, neutrals. Clean lines – not alot of clutter/chatzkees. Beautiful architecture.

    And yes – her asking her maid to clean up the dog poop. Doesn’t anybody do that themselves anymore? We have it down to a technological science in this house! Trowel, scoop, flip, double bag, garbage. Done! We never mind it because we adore our yellow Labbie girl. Plus – you can train your dog to go in one area of the yard.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      “I am a little fixated on Mary and have mixed opinions. What does her husband do? Or do they just live off of inherited money? her grandpa Arthur Godfrey old family wealth ?”

      I have no idea where their money comes from, but I did think it was very telling that Mary left a large tip for her daughter Lolly ON the bill when she was out to lunch with Cat.

      So, that very large tip was added to the credit card receipt where it now has to be reported as income by Lolly to the IRS. Depending on how large the tip was, it may be that it will push Lolly’s tips/earnings into the 50% tax bracket for that pay period and half of it is basically given to the IRS.

      While Mary was probably just trying to help her daughter out, and allow her to save face by putting a cash gift into a tip form, it wasn’t too fiscally prudent. But Mary wouldn’t know that unless she had ever had to work on some type of tip or commission basis. Or work at all.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        The convo between Mary and hubbie regarding Lolly’s return home showed two different views on the situation.

    • My opinion of Mary is still “watch and wait.” The dog situation made question her so-called devotion to her housekeeper. Rosa is a housekeeper, not kennel help.
      Rosa was on her hands and knees picking up dog poop in the yard. If the Amons family has no problem with making her do this, at least buy this nice woman proper equipment. For less than $25 they can buy her a real pooper scooper so she can perform the task efficiently and comfortably while standing – not crawling around in the yard in the winter!
      But honestly, either have her teenagers do it or hire a poop scooping service. (Yes, there is a such thing because…poop happens!)
      I tweeted Mary a link for the top of the line pooper scoop set under $25. (Nicely, w/ no snark) Wonder if she will reward Rosa?

  23. Kelly_Has_Big_ Shoulders says:

    In my opinon Cat has ZERO Personality. In some of the talking heads (not sure if thats how its called( she looks all wrinkly her forehead her mouth area and in others she looks totally botoxed.

    • Night Light says:

      Like most RH they put on way too much make-up and do not dress appropriately. I am not saying dress like grandmothers. You can dress elegantly and look ravishing. But when you have a cast that substitutes the word classy for elegant, graceful, luxurious, or tasteful you get table flipping, melt downs and all the trashy behavior we have come to expect from this franchise. Keep in mind that almost all of these women are mothers. There is a deep level of denial for them to continue to behave this way.

  24. jennifer says:

    I personally dislike Stacie and Cat- Cat because she is rude….I thought she was also rude to Mary at dinner, talking about and to her daughter about that wasn’t beling helpful or even just listening…it’s her “I know better attitude” …..I thought Mary was just trying to disagree by staying silent and not being outright rude which is the classy thing to do.

    I dislike Stacie because so far in both episodes she has mentioned race all the time. Like, Cat is uncomfortable because it’s a black event? No, I think she is just rude. I will admit I stopped watching the show after the first 30 minutes but so far all I get from Stacie is “Hey, I’m black” …..ok we get it….That is just MHO

    Linda- wow! Can not tand her either. Hello, you are on TV saying the hairdresser should mention it to Blondie (can’t remember her name) that she is too thin…I find Linda trashy too but an understanded trashy…..

    Only 1 I really like is Mary- and in general I find this show boring…..

    • MAMAZ says:

      I’m white , but I have African American family members and very close friends. Racism is a daily part of life for all people of color, African American, Mexican American, Indian American and Arab American not to mention immigrants. As white people we take for granted that we will not be discriminated against because of our skin. People of color have the opposite experience. They take for granted that they will be because the reality is they often are.
      I don’t think Stacie is being overly sensitive. She seemed to accept Mary’s integrated salon babble for what it was. A silly, tipsy , well intentioned woman not understanding the situation. She didn’t call her racist. I think it was more Cat doing the Tyra ghetto talk, then demanding a drink from Stacie’s Aunt as if she was the help. And she didn’t really seem uncomfortable to me as much as feeling that she was better than the people around her. She looked like she smelled something bad the whole time. If you happen to see it again watch her face. It was very pinched.

      • jennifer says:

        Ok- I am willing to admit I may be wrong about Stacie- Like I said I didn’t watch it that closely and muted it halfway through so maybe I just caught those few parts-

  25. Katie says:

    Teresa is the most ignorant woman. In her blog she says that Joe had to crawl through the window of his truck, and if he were drunk he wouldn’t be able to do that unscathed. Actually tree, there are many drunks who walk away from accidents when others are hurt, something to do with that central nervous system thingy being depressed, and no I don’t mean that is is sad. 

    Why did Ramona’s husband Mario and Simon  have blogs on bravo? Personally I would love to see some of NJ husbands on the bravo site.

    Ya my name is juicy, I have a wife tree and four girls but forgetaboutit. I injoy eatin eyetalian food, like meat balls and
    stuff. My wive says happy wive happy live, or something like that. Whateva makes her shut that mouth on her is worth it. I’ll by her all the tings she wants.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      LOL Katie – I just spit my coffee out! You are too funny 🙂

    • Ellabean says:

      LOl ! wow – you got his accent down !

    • TLM says:

      Who wants to bet that Danielle’s “search for her birth mother” leads her to Italy, and she turns up there while the Manzos, Lauritas and Giudices are there! THEY CAN NEVER GET AWAY FROM DANIELLE!! The horror!!! 😉

      This show is really starting to resemble a bad soap opera on Telemundo.

  26. Katie says:

    Look at the comments on Teresa’s blog on bravo. Wow hilarious.

    • katie says:

      Wow Bravo, I am shocked that you permitted these comments on your website. At the risk of sounding trite, Bravo.

      Comments from the BRAVO blog:

      1) No one believes the story about Joe. Okay, maybe you do -so ONE person believes the story about Joe. That is the oldest trick in the book. Now instead of being a man and taking his sentence he is going to appeal the community service? It should be his honor to serve his community!

      2)This episode confirmed that your daughters are spoiled brats. Feel sorry for your parents and friends who have to babysit. Do Joe a favor and stop spending his money like it’s water before the IRS comes knocking. Also that horrible, whining that keeps spilling out your classless mouth makes you sound like trailer trash. The only person making Jersey girls look bad on this show is YOU!!!

      3)So does anyone buy this story about Joe drinking after the car crash happened? I don’t! You guys could have came up with a better reason than that? His crash happened at 2AM! Were you just leaving dinner at 2AM? You giudice’s are good liers so you better go back to the drawing board and think of another one. I find it intersting that you go on a CRUISE while your filing bankrupcy and then claim your father in law bought you a ring so you wouldn’t get crap about it from your fans. Its people like you that drive this economy down. You charge 11 million dollars and file bankrupcy to walk away from it all. Now your hurting your debtors because you won’t pay up. You Teresa are the reason that Ashely found herself in the middle of a court case. If I were jacqueline you would not be around me or my family.You don’t know how to conduct yourself in tough situations. You wanted to prove a immature point to danielle and you brought on the whole fight. Did you apologize for that or did you still point the finger at Danielle. I quote “Venice is a city that was made on water”. How stupid can you be? Every single time you appear on TV you just come off so stupid. This episode was the most boring episode in housewife history. You better hope they keep Danielle. No one would tune in to see you spend money you clearly don’t have!

      • Earring Girl says:

        @Katie – I did not see that you had posted this also, I guess I was in shock to see that Bravo is posting all the negative comments. IMHO – I think Bravo is sick of these people, I read somewhere that Andy said they did not know about the bankruptcy or the DUI – I wonder if they are going to put RHONJ on “freeze” next season? LOL!!

        • Katie says:

          I was in shock as well. I think you are correct. Someone at bravo no longer love love loves Teresa or there has been a glitch in the matrix. I figured I better copy some of the scathing comments before they disappear.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Bravo and the production company are not sick of any of these people unless they ask too much in pay & perks and/or the ratings plummet when they’re on the screen.

          Bravo knew about the DWI because it was in the news and Tamra was on WWHL with Andy and they discussed it (the day after the arrest IIRC) . Bravo says it didn’t know about the bankruptcy, but so what? They allegedly didn’t know about Danielle’s criminal record and other exploits either but they’ve known for over a year now. And Danielle’s still on the show. Bravo simply doesn’t care about any of that.

          As long as these chicks bring in ratings and don’t diva themselves out of a contract, Bravo will keep them on the air. It’s not as if Bravo’s going to suddenly get a fit of good taste and decorum and be too dainty to showcase these broads behaving badly.

    • IMJ says:

      I guess Bravo stopped censoring so many comments. People are really letting Teresa have it. She thinks people are stupid and nothing pisses people off more than blatent lies. Who drinks after a car accident? Thats the most sobering moment people have.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Same pattern at last week – negative comments galore (which shocked me because the comments are usually so nice) but a couple of days later they were gone and it was all love, love, love you! Maybe once the ladies start bitching about the negative comments Bravo takes them down?

  27. Zoey says:

    I’m so disappointed in DC Housewives. What a snoozefest! These chicks are so forgettable. I was really hoping for a show to look forward to. I haven’t felt that in a while. Dang.

  28. jennifer says:

    Can I ask about Joe’s DUI? If he was “around the corner” from his house, like Teresa claims in her blogs then why did he walk to a neighbors and not his own house? If there is a crash you NEVER walk away, you call 911. Just saying his excuse is BS and made even more so by him not just doing his community service. Has Tamara come out and said if they were drinking or not? I except Jacqueline to defend but wondering Tamara’s whole deal…..

    • Earring Girl says:

      I thought he said in one story that he went to his fathers house- I have also heard about the neighbor and the police not believing the neighbors story.
      Who knows once you start lying it’s hard to remember. LOL

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I will give Joe the benefit of the doubt that he couldn’t find his cell phone. But you don’t leave the scene of an accident – you might run to a house to have them call the police but then return to your vehicle – You might also call ah your wife, family member to give you a ride home if your vehicle is no longer operational. THE STORIES DON”T ADD UP and the dogs ate my homework!

      • KirksvilleMo says:

        It occurred to me that maybe Joe was driving away from his house aka Tiger Woods.
        That would be even more reason for the hush hush.
        We need the police report and a map!

        • dumberries says:

          Hmmm, could he have been headed out of the house for a 2 a.m. booty call after tossing back a few? Good question Kirsksville.

      • klmh says:

        I don’t believe the story Joe is putting out either about his DUI, but if he had a head injury there is every possibility he couldn’t remember much for a while. My husband flipped his car on some ice and couldn’t remember phone numbers, etc for a least an hour. No physical cuts or bruises, but when the brain bangs around the skull, I suppose like shaken baby syndrome, there is temporary, possibly permanent damage.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      My recollection is that on WWHL with Andy the day or so after the accident, Tamra (who had been scheduled to appear on the show) said at the dinner Joe maybe had a glass of wine, but appeared fine & sober.

      As I posted above, another poster previously plotted a map showing the location of T&J’s house, the location of the accident, and the route one would take if driving from NYC to their home. Joe didn’t go straight home from the dinner or he wouldn’t have been in the accident location at all. It wasn’t on the direct route to his home. Also as I recall, the accident took place two miles from his home, close but certainly not “around the corner.”

    • Sha2000 says:

      Someone posted a google map of the accident site on the 11 or 12th blog. While it does appear to be “around the corner”, there is a lot of woods between the house & the site of the accident & looks like it might be actually 2 or 3 miles away.

  29. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:


    In the name of all that is holy and wholesome….MY EYES! MY EYES! And seriously, “I think he got a BONER?” No, he got a BONE-HEAD the day he married you!

  30. Earring Girl says:

    I am surprise that Bravo is posting some of these comments -this comment was taken from Teresa’s Bravo blog – I think this person needs to join Lynn’s blog – LOL!!!

    So does anyone buy this story Submitted by CrystalMichelle on August 12, 2010
    So does anyone buy this story about Joe drinking after the car crash happened? I don’t! You guys could have came up with a better reason than that? His crash happened at 2AM! Were you just leaving dinner at 2AM? You giudice’s are good liers so you better go back to the drawing board and think of another one. I find it intersting that you go on a CRUISE while your filing bankrupcy and then claim your father in law bought you a ring so you wouldn’t get crap about it from your fans. Its people like you that drive this economy down. You charge 11 million dollars and file bankrupcy to walk away from it all. Now your hurting your debtors because you won’t pay up. You Teresa are the reason that Ashely found herself in the middle of a court case. If I were jacqueline you would not be around me or my family.You don’t know how to conduct yourself in tough situations. You wanted to prove a immature point to danielle and you brought on the whole fight. Did you apologize for that or did you still point the finger at Danielle. I quote “Venice is a city that was made on water”. How stupid can you be? Every single time you appear on TV you just come off so stupid. This episode was the most boring episode in housewife history. You better hope they keep Danielle. No one would tune in to see you spend money you clearly don’t have!

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      hmmm… even Bravo can’t hold back the tide on this one.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Your father in law bought the ring? The anniversary ring? That man is either very wealthy or very stupid to let his son use him to hide assets…………

      • Squirrels says:

        No, the green ring she got in Italy. Slave labor could not possibly afford her anniversary ring. Unless of course, it fell off a truck.

  31. Mel2 says:

    Just to set the record straight…Cat’s husband does not work “at” the White House or “for” Obama. He works for Newsweek magazine and is assigned to the White House. There is a huge difference. Here is another great recap: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/reality-zen-with-jenn/2010/08/real-housewives-of-washington-dc-episode-2-recap-miserable-cows-on-horseback.html

    • Ellabean says:

      Absolutely correct.

      The White House always has an official photographer for each administration. I have seen the current man (older – with dark hair) who is currently the official photographer. And it is NOT Cats ex-husband.

  32. Lovebeth says:

    I think Bravo know something is not right with the Giudices and they will be posting the not so positive comments to save themselves, remember they said they did not know of their bankruptcy?

  33. MickeyMouth says:

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  34. Earring Girl says:

    I just saw on the Bravo/Teresa blog a comment about Joe being with Tamara that night doing shots – OMG -LOL
    I have posted this article before and I believe it even though I have not seen anything else about it. Ramona usually says what it is – we all know that.http://absurdtosublime.net/2010/01/14/joe-giudice-and-tamra-barney-2/

    • Earring Girl says:

      Hope this comes out correctly I don’t know what happened:


      • jennifer says:

        Seems like Ramona was saying that it was just Tamara and Joe….hmmm….wondering?????

        • Earring Girl says:

          That’s what I have been saying – I was shocked to see that comment on the Bravo blog. I saw on Caroline’s tweet the day after the airing of the show Carolyn kept saying that Joe was not drunk when he had the flip out and that Teresa was definitely with them – hmmm????

          Teresa says on her blog –

          We went to dinner with Caroline and Albert, Jacqueline and Chris and even Tamra from Real Housewives of Orange County. When we came back from the city, my car was at Jacqueline’s house, so I drove back with her instead of riding back with Joe. Thank goodness I did because his car was really smashed up. That was the
          first miracle – that I wasn’t in the car. The second was that Joe was completely fine. He had to crawl out of the window (which I’m pretty sure you couldn’t do
          successfully without even getting a scratch if you were drunk). He was just around the corner from our house, closed his eyes for a second, and that was all it took.

  35. Katie says:

    It is safe to say that the real housewives (Note the use of the term real is open
    to conjecture) franchise has no regard for those who are victimized from it.
    I’m not referring to the minors ie the four and five year olds who are criticized for their behavior, which at that age is no reflection of personality defects, just their parents horrendous parenting skills.

    The real victims are not those who have been systematically bullied (sorry kelly), but the universities that these morons associate themselves with. I hope the dean of admissions oh the general studies program has been fired and sent to prison and mandated to watch reruns of rhony and read over kelly’s tweet. The berkeley school (obviously not uc Berkeley) should shut down tomorrow. These schools should send out a letter of cease and desist if they have any desire to salvage academic credibility.

    • Squirrels says:

      “The berkeley school (obviously not uc Berkeley) should shut down tomorrow.” Let us not confuse Teresa’s higher educational choice with Berkeley School of Music either, one of the premiere Jazz schools in the country. While I didn’t attend, my then boy friend did (we are still friends after 30 years). I got to participate in his projects and it was a joy. Great school with a super atmosphere. The UC system is of high calibre, as well.

      • Kukulet says:

        I obtained my graduate degree from UC Berkeley, so I have access to the alumni directory: Teresa Giudice did not graduate from UC Berkeley, in fashion merchandising or any other major.

        To be fair, Teresa has never said that she graduated from UC Berkeley. Her online bio specifically states Berkeley College, which is an independent school. As much as I don’t like the woman, she doesn’t appear to have attempted to misrepresent which college she graduated from, despite the similarity in names.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Me thinks that Teresa in her universe is unaware of any other institute of higher education would have the name Berkeley!

        • Katie says:

          I in no way implied that she lied about which school she attended. I was simply alluding to the fact that her school should not be confused with UC berk.

          As an alumnus of UC berk the directories are voluntary and only those who wish to be published are documented. The directory is not a reliable source to confirm attendance.

          • Squirrels says:

            I think we all agree Teresa has no right nor any obligation to say she graduated from UC Berkeley, Berkeley School of Music, or Berkeley Design School of OshKosBeGosh.

            She’s a small tool in a larger box.

  36. Laura aka Just done says:

    From Kelly via tweet: @H8Yankees @katieleekitchen is a great chef and her recipes are amazing. And she’s the nicest most genuine girl. Go katieee

    LOL KatieLee lists her profession as a “cookbook author!”

    • cusi77 says:

      Laura_ that is too fun for words! Ha!

    • Ellabean says:


      Yep. Add that to the list we had going the last few days here – of Kelly’s repetitive mimic words.

      • NormaJean says:

        I saw that too! I googled Katie Lee and all I could find was a degree in English and Journalism….nothing about attending a culinary school. I guess being Billy Joel’s ex-wife is what makes her a chef in Kellyland.

      • Kukulet says:

        I think the “nicest, most genuine girl” was another sideswipe at Bethenny.

        KooKoo never quits.

        • Ellabean says:

          Very much agree.

          • NormaJean says:

            It absolutely was a dig at Bethenny. She wants to be like Bethenny so badly but doesn’t have the smarts, instinct, and drive to achieve her success so she resorts to passive-aggressive digs to try and diminish her.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Is Katie Lee an executive chef in a restaurant? If she isn’t, she isn’t a chef.
      I have never heard of this person. No one I know has ever heard of this person. Therefore, at most she’s a cook and not a chef. (This is the standard Kelly applied to Bethenny.)

      (And kudos and a hat tip to Real City Housewife…this video just cracks me up: http://www.youtube.com/user/RealCityHousewife#p/a/u/2/nukTao4LAI4 )

      Of course, Kelly thinks she’s a jewelry designer because she strings some feathers together. I told someone about Kelly’s “dead crow” jewelry and the person thought I was exaggerating….until she saw it for herself online.

      • anniieee says:

        I could be wrong and it could be Seinfields wife, but one of them wrote a cookbook about sneaking vegetables into foods so kids get the nutrition from the veggies and still eats. It had been done before and someone sued them over copywrited stuff. Long time ago… but I am a food junkie and remember reading that somewhere.

  37. Hi Lynn!

    I don’t care that Dina blocked me! So now I have to make a couple extra clicks to see her page. I’ll survive. And I don’t blame you for her extreme paranoia of anything perceived as negative! I could never blame you for anything, as we all know, everything that happens is always Danielle’s fault.

    She wasn’t all that interesting anyway, I just followed her bc I follow all the RH’s. I actually thought she was nice. I had no problem with her until I saw that twitter war she had with you. That’s when I saw a different side of her and changed my opinion. But I still never said anything mean to her. First she blocked, then I made mean comments. Not the other way around like she is trying to say. I also sent her a few tweets asking why she blocked me at the time, and she ignored me.
    I wasn’t upset yesterday – I was just trying to get her to say the truth about why she blocked me. But now she “doesn’t remember”. (Sound familiar?)

    • Oh yeah and I do always get a bunch of extra hits when u post my link. So that totally makes up for the thing that wasn’t your fault. Lol.

    • kats2 says:

      I’m so happy to hear that you don’t care that the big bitch blocked you!!! How nice of Lynn to be concerned.

      The whole situation has convinced me that Dina really didn’t want to leave the show, something made her leave. If she wanted to get away from all the craziness of the show and seek some higher purpose or balance in life she certainly wouldn’t be patrolling the internet and looking for attention. What a sad attempt to stay relevant. Go buy another Buddha statue.

      • I TOTALLY agree.
        I don’t think she wanted to leave the show either. She clearly loves the attention.
        Maybe she gambled with a “It’s me or Danielle” type of argument with the producers and lost.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I have always had the feeling that Dina was supposed to be the center of attention, the star of the franchise. Jacq, Caroline and Teresa probably supported that in the beginning as well. Danielle didn’t get the memo. We all know what we got!!!

  38. Still reading, but stopping to post this before I forget it: The Salahis probably had a police escort ordered by the Secret Service to make sure they didn’t try to crash the White House again. They were stopped recently doing just that. And 4 hosts or not, it’s still gauche to show up extremely late to a party you are hosting. The “star” of the party is the birthday boy, not Michaele.

  39. Ellabean says:

    Re: The night that Juicy crashed.

    Let’s cut to the chase. No pun intended.

    After the dinner, Teresa went home with Jac because Juicy made an excuse that he had some business to take care of – like check on his apartment buildings.

    He then went to a strip club or was with another woman.


    • Ellabean says:


      The only other possibility is that Juicy is in deep doo doo with some loan sharks, aka very bad people – so he met up with them – and they caused the accident somehow. Juicy is covering up so as not to incur their further retaliation.

      Okay – So I’ve seen too many Sopranos episodes.

      • dumberries says:

        @Ellabean, either one of your scenarios is more plausible than the crappola being spewed by Juicy & company. The only thing I would add to both of them is that he was indeed drunk driving.

    • Squirrels says:

      I’m sure you meant to add, allegedly.


      • Ellabean says:

        Thanks, Squirrel. Yes. Allegedly.

        • Ellabean says:

          “Allegedly” is the new pole dancer at a club out by the airport….;)

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Practically speaking – Joe and Teresa are not really on the best terms (we see him being detached and somewhat abusive) so he likely said he was leaving and she could get her own ride home! He seems to have had his own vehicle at the dinner, she left her vehicle at Jacq/Chris’ house – they never went together in the first place!

          • kats2 says:

            WCW this is so true, I bet he doesn’t spend a lot of time explaining or providing Chewy with details.

  40. nancy says:

    What is telling to me about NoForeheads blog is her saying Juicy was able to crawl out the window unharmed. More times than not Drunk Drivers always are hurt very little, if any, in their DD crashes. They will cause death and hurt with all involved other than themselves.

  41. Kelly_Has_Big_ Shoulders says:

    I just read Jills twitter and she wrote to someone to come visit her at Coral Gables FL at Books & Books on August 20th. OMG that is in my neighborhood. I want to go do what Laura did With Teresa but I don’t have anything for Jill to sign unless I have her sign Bethennys book. LMAO! No I wouldn’t want to taint Bethennys book. Anyway I will try to go check it out see if anyone actually goes to her signing. Books & Books is pretty small theres a Barnes & Noble around the corner. hmmm.

  42. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Ellabean, my thoughts exactly. Juicy didn’t “suddenly” get tired. He already had points on his record so he should have been thinking about what could happen. If they came in seperate cars, T should have driven them home and they pick up the 2nd car the next day. Juicy made a pit stop on the other side of town and had alcohol after the diner but BEFORE the accident. Oh well, it’s not like they’re making the payments on that Escalade anyway.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      I know when I drop off my husband to pick up his car somewhere, I always follow him home once he is in the car. Shouldn’t Teresa have been following him in her car if she just dropped him off at his car and they were headed home?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        He didn’t follow them back to J/C’s house because Teresa can drive her own ass home! He had bidness to attend to elsewhere.

  43. Night Light says:

    I have seen all the RH series up to RHONJ when I realized what this season had to serve. I understand the basis of most reality shows and all the antics that most cast members feel compelled to dish out so that the audience can speak/blog, love/hate and come back for more. My problem with the RH is that most are mothers, they are not 20 year olds like Real World or Jersey Shore. Atleast on Surviver they are competing for money. The housewives are women far from the teenage girls in high school. I don’t watch RHONJ and I will not watch RHOA if they serve the same hair pulling crap. I can put up with alot of RHONY’s catty and gossiping but this last season’s backstabbing and straight up lying cooled me. I said it once and I will say it again once they brought on the RHOA and then followed with RHONJ the franchise went down the crapper! It was no longer about shopping and dinner but making sure you stood out even if you were an idiot. Yes, these women are out of touch but most rich people who are on reality shows are.

  44. Olivia says:

    What gets me is that Bravo keeps pushing these losers onto the public with the hope of making them into “stars”. Forget that they lack talent, they are also immensely boring.

    Bethenny continues on her upswing because she comes equipped. She is naturally funny and the quips fall out of her mouth with the same speed as Kathy Griffin. Plus she has a business that she has built up and the difference between her and any one of the others is evident. You don’t necessarily have to be a “fan” to be able to separate Bethenny’s “star power” against any one of the women Bravo has featured so far. Not one of them could stand alone without others to support them.

    Yet Bravo seems hellbent on promoting people like the Salahi’s, the Giudice’s, and Danielle Staub who appear to have no shame when it comes to revealing areas of their lives that are better left unknown. And they do all this with a certain flair and the ability to lie effortlessly in the process.

    Why would anyone with half a brain applaud the actions of Teresa and Joe? Why are the Salahi’s given the opportunity to exhibit their behavior and receive a substantial reward for doing so? What possible good does it do to allow Danielle Staub to be showcased as a “star” with her criminal background on display? And what of the people who consider themselves “fans” who cheer them on?

    When we find ourselves cheering on crooks, deadbeats, drunk drivers, liars, cheats, forgers, strippers, lap dancers, and juvenile delinquents we seem to be stepping off the planet.

    • Night Light says:

      Please don’t forget the lady from RHOC with all the surgey but was a squatter! I am not sure if Bravo used to vet the cast but it seems all you have to posses to be on this show now is the ability “bring it” like Jill Zarin said. Well she brought it alright and made complete fool out of herself. I won’t watch RHONY with out Bethenny and I don’t think she needs to return either. Bethenny can carry a show on her own.

      • dumberries says:

        That’s right. Olivia needs to a “squatters” to her list in honor of Lynne Curtin…

  45. Kukulet says:

    WindyCityWondering says:
    August 13, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    How many copies would a publisher give to an author for promotional use?? (Record companies used to give cases of new albums to reps to take to radio stations, retail stores, etc to help generate interest and sales….)

    It depends on the author, the amount of books in the initial run, and the projected demand. For someone like Teresa, I can’t imagine that the publisher would have initially given her more than a couple of cases. Course, since the book sold well, she could have requested more.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I asked because Teresa is doing appearances/signings in hair salons, restaurants, etc – not bookstores (where you buy books!) and there was even another merchant with clothes at the salon….. It is difficult for me to believe that Teresa is buying her own books and taking them to these locations – which is why I asked if she had freebies for promotional use and was maybe selling them (which is what you don’t do with promotional items as it is illegal)….. Jill apparently has many copies of her book that she has in the Zarin Fabric warehouse and she likely purchased them to get a higher sales ranking. Jill has money; Teresa doesn’t have money so I’m just confused.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Most promotional items are marked promotional Not for Resale. At least with CD’s, not sure about books.

        • Kukulet says:

          Sorry, my bad – I used the term “promotional” in the wrong context.

          Publishers do give authors copies of their book to sell at promotional appearances, such as book signings. But, they are not marked as promotional, and the sale price is set by and for the publisher, not the author.

          The ones that are marked “for promotional use only” are usually give-aways for family and friends, book sellers, media outlets, reviewers, etc.

          Authors can buy copies of their book up to a set limit, to prevent “stacking” a book against the competition for the bestseller lists.

          • jezzibel says:

            my mom gets tons os books to review and yes the books are stamped with either “review copy”. or “not for resale”, or “promotional copy” stamped on the pages…its to stop dishonest reviewers from getting free stuff and turning around and selling it for profit and then not bothering to provide reviews
            My mom also gets offers to review advanced copies of DVD movies by various distibution companys..etc, but they’ve started to send them in plain sleeves rather then in the whole package as an attempt to stop the fake reviewers and the advanced dvd’s being pirated.
            Since Teresa’s book was from one of the big publishing houses, she probably got about 1000 copies to use for marketing and to send to reviewers like A. Chandler
            *sidenote..I work at a subsidy publisher..junior assoc*

            • Katie says:

              My husband is apart of the acadamy. It is quite difficult for them to send out the DVDs in order to review and select a nominee. It is very difficult
              to keep the versions on DVD which are currently in theaters from reaching the internet. They do however keep track of the materials distributed. I imagine publishing is similar.

              • Sha2000 says:

                As a small business book seller; publishers do give out advance copies to booksellers in the hopes they will place an order. We have never been asked to return a book, it is complementary.

          • Squirrels says:

            Somehow I could believe that is the case except in Jill Zaaaarrriiin’s case. Bet the publisher couldn’t dump them on her fast enough in order to recoup cost.

            Ok, that was mean. Catch me if you can. I’m right now chasing down some lunatic trying to kidnap my pigeon friends in the park.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        This one isn’t marked “For promotional purposes only” I just checked.

  46. nancy says:

    Please remind me. I do not watch the Jersy HW. Lost interest. Miss. D. slut, kidnapper, drug whore, you get the picture, total turned me off. Anywho I forgot how or not, if Miss NoForehead is related to the M.’s.

  47. kats2 says:

    I’m back! I hope everyone is well. . . .Missed being able to comment but I tried to keep up and read the blogs and as many comments as possible. I agree with all the snarky comments and love how everyone here tells it like it is.
    So much catching up to do but First some shout outs – Sorry for the long comment

    Lynn – great blogs and again thanks for creating such a fun place for us!!!!

    Laura – You are my hero! I read about your trip to Chewbacca’s book signing and was cracking up and actually laughing out loud on the plane. Excellent first hand information and details! Thank you so much for going and taking the time to share what happened. One part of the story I didn’t get, does your sister really like Teresa? Or was that just the ruse to throw Chewy off? If she does, I’m sure there is a 12 step program we can get her in – STAT

    Needless to say I found a few other passengers on the plane that can’t stand the NJ HW’s and told them about Lynn’s blog. The people who were from Jersey were pretty serious about their disgust and it was not just Danielle. That’s right (Hey Dina) people think the Giudice, Laurita’s and Manzo’s are just as bad, if not worst then Danielle. No surprise that people who pay their bills, follow the law and live an honest life do not like people who lie as a profession.

    I think we have uncovered the common thread that can bring our nation together and bond us as human beings – “Hate for the NJ HW’s”.

    That pic that Dina posted of her “husband” is so funny. Do you notice how his big nose, mouth and balding head is conveniently covered up. HA! I wonder how long ago that picture was taken. . . .

    Episode Catch Up –

    DC HW’s – they are either all very uncomfortable on camera or just very unpleasant people. I don’t like the show and actually find them all very boring.

    Top Chef – it was a surprise Kenny was let go but his ego was out of control and really don’t think they would let him go if he had a track record for making great food – maybe the competition got to him or something.

    Work of Art – I love this show and was thrilled with the final 3, very happy Abdi won and just wanted to hug Miles. I think they all will have a very promising future ahead of them.

    NJ HW – Good Lord!

    The scene with the Manzo boys talking to Al about taking care of Mom was cute. Lauren needs to get more camera time; she’s probably the only one with a life and does not care about fame.

    When the big ugly vase broke all I thought was Laura won’t be able to buy it on the 22nd.

    Joe the pig was drunk as I have said many times he should be in jail, hearing any more conjured stories are just insulting. There is not a scene where Joe is not drinking; he can’t take a ride to the airport without his homemade hooch. But we’re to believe he went an entire night (with no proof for most of the night of where he was) without drinking.

    Whoever was working the camera shots in this episode was hysterical for example –
    First – The scene in the Giudice kitchen with Jacqueline’s Mom looking at Joe like she was just introduced to someone from Mars. There was the most amazing “Oh Fuck I’m going to be stuck on a boat with this loser” look on her face.
    Second – the birthday dinner scene and discussion about the MAFIA in Naples!!! Great camera shots (just at the right time) of Caroline and Al. LOVED IT!!!

    Giudice Clan – I felt so bad for the kids and why would anyone wake a sleeping child. Chewbacca is the most self centered person and really proved what an awful parent she is too. There is nothing about Joe and Teresa to like, from how they look and act they are really messed up and very trashy people.

    Joe and Chris conversation at the bar – totally disgusting to bring Danielle up, but the obsession and need to blame her continues. There was nothing different about Jacqueline on this trip, (same old, same old) – drinking, eating and acting like a moron. The bar scene with Jac and Chewbacca was embarrassing to watch.

    People fall (or are pushed) off of cruise ships all the time. . . . . .

    So the big ending for the season is Caroline having a sit down with Danielle – I thought Dina (Hey Dina) tried that, you know the big speech about Danielle crossing the line and driving to that place like a seriously mad bitch to put Danielle in her place. It ended up being a joke. So what now, more BS build up to the same old ending . . . I guess Danny will get more air time. This show is getting really boring and without Danielle they have nothing to hold our interest unless they are going to start telling the truth about what’s really going on with their finances, spouses and kids.

    Danielle is scum but the Giudice’s, Manzo’s and Laurita’s are just as bad and actually in many ways worst. I’ll be happy when the “we blame Danielle for all that is wrong with us” season is over.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      she’s baaaackkkk! we missed ya and the snarking just isn’t the same without you. Ain’t we nice?! ain’t we! lol

    • Earring Girl says:

      Welcome back! Seems like you kept up and enjoyed a lot of what I enjoyed on these show except NJ – don’t watch just read the blogs here.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Kats! So glad you are back! I was thinking of you while I was waiting in line, trying to decide what to say. First, my sister is not a fan of Teresa, but a fan of NJ HW…so I sort of stretched the truth a little. BUT, she was glad that I got her the book (she loves cookbooks). Funny thing is, she asked me when I was getting Bethenny’s for her! LOL Thankfully, she doesn’t need saving.

      I was hoping you would be back to see that I went. Funny thing is, I spoke to my b/f tonight about the 22nd, he said he completely forgot and has to work. Then he laughed and said that he was just messing with me. In his words “those women will KILL you if we don’t go!” Even he gets it! 🙂

      • kats2 says:

        Laura – so happy to hear you’re not related to anyone who likes Chewy.

        So if the 22nd is still on and Teresa is there do you think she will recognize you?

        Can’t wait I hope the court doesn’t rule against it.

    • Squirrels says:

      Welcome back Kats2….

      Missed you’re always amusing musings.


      Never mind. That was Kelly, latching onto any publicity she can. Scared me.

      • vilzvet says:

        “People fall (or are pushed) off of cruise ships all the time. . . . . .”

        I love the way this line just came out of the blue!

  48. Lovebeth says:

    I was just on Lynda’s (sp) twitter page and she is following Mickey Mouth nice!

  49. Lovebeth says:

    After Bethenny wore Old Navy and some cheap stuff, Kiki is now at Gap buying get one, get another for $20 ha

    • Squirrels says:

      I mentioned that to her via twitter.

      @kikilet I guess you don’t visit the Gap too often.That sale isn’t anything to rave over. They are chasing Blue Navy’s clientele.Get a grip.

  50. nancy says:


    Way up-thread. Have your back. You were not rude. Just curious. I am so jealous that I do not live back with most of you. Oregon girl here. GO. BEAVERS.

    • Ellabean says:

      ‘S’ okay, nancy. Love the west coaster time peeps. Don’t think your later opinions don’t matter. 🙂

      EB of ~est time here.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Thanks Nancy, I saw that. Some people just don’t get it, do they? The bankruptcy thing bothers me ALOT, but the DUI thing…that’s a whole other story. Did you notice how they didn’t say “at least no one was hurt.” It was thank god Teresa wasn’t in the car, they talked about the trees…but not about the fact that he could have really hurt someone. They live in their little land of unicorns, jelly beans and cartwheels, and it all revolves around them. UGH, I can’t stand them.

      • nancy says:

        Yes, I did notice, Laura. Keep up the great job. We count on you for info for next weeks big auction.

      • felony stupid says:

        You know you are right Laura…even if he wasn’t drinking (yeah right) you would think one of them would say thank God he didn’t hurt anyone by driving when he was soooo tired and yawning out of control. Thanks so much for taking one for the team and going to see the yeti in person!! You rocked it with total class.

  51. Kukulet says:

    Katie says:
    August 13, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    I in no way implied that she lied about which school she attended. I was simply alluding to the fact that her school should not be confused with UC berk.

    I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest that you were implying that TG lied. I’ve just noticed on some other forums, not here, that many people jumped to the conclusion that TG claimed to have graduated from UC Berkeley, and I was merely pointing out that she never made that claim. No offense intended. 🙂

  52. boston02127 says:

    Welcome back kats2 🙂 You were missed.

  53. Earring Girl says:

    I was reading Danielles’ Bravo blog and she had her website address there to see Christine information so I clicked on it and . . . . before you start to gag . . . .I was really impressed with her website and I thought it was very professional, well I only clicked on news/updates, products and the IMG tab and the photos of Christine are beautiful. Click on IMG at the bottom left corner and you can also check out other models that work with IMG from Paris, London and Milan. I saw Tyra Banks photos(sorry Cat) and Venus Williams – her photos were very impressive -just click on the photo you are interested in -okay here goes . . . . http://www.danielle-staub.com/

  54. MickeyMouth says:

    Before I post to the world, whatcha think? New Series Circus/Carnival.

    http://wp.me/pWaBw-dA and http://wp.me/pWaBw-dD

  55. boston02127 says:

    @Mickey–The one of Caroline struck me so funny because she shaves her face! You’re so creative.

  56. boston02127 says:

    from AbsurdtoSublime-Real Housewives Airs on NBC in September
    ‎”The Real Housewives” has been sold to all 10 of the NBC Local Media broadcast stations; New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, San Francisco, Washington D.C., Miami, San Diego & Hartford. The series has also been sold to Hearst Television stations including Tampa, Orlando, Sacramento, Kansas City, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Louisville, New Orleans & West Palm Beach. Check your local listings.

    • dumberries says:

      Thanks for the link! I wonder if the Housewives will see any extra money for the NBC day time broadcasts (or residuals from eventual syndication). I’m sure this increased exposure will be part of their negotiations in the future.

      • Squirrels says:

        I would have thought the women have lawyers to negotiate. If that’s the case, syndication would be a natural part of the original deal. If not, perhaps pre-paid wanna be lawyer was a wrong move.

        (Said in a very lovingly way, of course).

        • dumberries says:

          I hope they had respectable entertainment lawyers that made sure future additional network broadcasts and residuals were part of the original contracts. Some of the ladies seem so desperate for the spotlight, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just jumped in blindly…

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Saw an article recently (link was posted here before) where Silex said they weren’t going to get residuals. Evidently earnings from syndication were not included in their contracts. Presumably now that the shows have been sold into syndication that will be an issue for those renegotiating contracts.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Also, have any other Bravo shows been syndicated on broadcast channels? AFAIK the HW’s shows may well be the first to do so, which is probably another reason this wasn’t an issue in previous HW contracts.

          Bravo would show endless repeats, but the shows were only on Bravo and no one else was paying money to run reruns of Bravo’s old shows. Now that others are paying money to run repeats, it’s an issue.

        • Squirrels says:

          Why do I get the feeling this whole debacle is based on what’s good for Milo Minderbender is good for the country?
          At what point will women $%^&*()(*&^ ?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      wondering if their contracts cover syndication, reruns, etc – it doesn’t sound like they get anything but a flat fee per episode.

    • kats2 says:

      So does this mean the show will air on more than the Bravo channel?
      I bet they don’t see a cent of the money.

  57. Adgirl says:

    Cat’s behavior reminds me of how a rougher Brooklyn girl might behave in England. Mouth first, tell it like it is. How many people from the US would enjoy or understand mutton or sheepshead? Would we love to attend a homemade sausage making?
    She’s not very nice or sensitive but many of us from the USA aren’t prizes socially either.

    • Squirrels says:

      True that Adgirl, but there is no way on the planet, I personally would insult my hostess within earshot of an audience. Cat told Stacie about the wine (be it sour or not) in front of other guests. Bad form.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Cat has no manners and that may or may not have anything to do with what “class” she grew up in or now pretends to be in…..basic manners are lacking! And her pretentious, snobbery is likely rooted in her self-esteem or lack there of…..

    • kats2 says:

      Adgirl I’m assuming this comment didn’t apply to anyone here 🙂 well maybe the trolls.
      “She’s not very nice or sensitive but many of us from the USA aren’t prizes socially either.”

    • Need a Hobby says:

      It’s not a national or regional issue. She’s just rude. And a pretentious poser. Her background is not as high on the social food chain as she pretends and her manners are atrocious, regardless of station or nation.

      Evidently her idea of a “high class” British drawl is to sound like Winston Churchill on a bender. She’s like a parody out of PG Wodehouse.

  58. TrueLifeDiva says:

    No residuals, flat pay. That’s part of why Atlanta gave a dull reunion. Now they act a fool(drama) and then use popularity as negotiating chip. They are all initially signed to 3yr deals with Bravo. Season 4 is when they can demand $$$

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      aahhh…so that explains a lot. It also fits in with @Olivia’s observations of scripted drama.
      Talk about selling your souls…

      • Squirrels says:


        Olivia has their number, but it’s a 900# deal and none of us want to spend the $3.99 per minute. I for one plan to match Kelly’s next “See, I’m all about giving, Save the Squirrels from the Pigeons of Central Park.”

        Those bastards are much too fast on the popcorn run.

    • dumberries says:

      Thanks Diva! I thought that some of the HWs had protested Bravo’s less than generous contract terms. The fact that NYC is going into season 4 makes this expansion announcement interesting. More negotiation power, new network audience exposure… Bet Zarin is doing everything possible to get her hooks in for another season.

      • nancy says:

        I read this as not the new shows but the older ones. Did I get this correct?

        • dumberries says:

          I believe so Nancy. That was the original story last month – older episodes running during the daytime. Based on what Diva explained, the HWs on the old episodes wouldn’t be in a position to negotiate more money for this additional exposure unless they had already been in the franchise for more than 3 years (if I understand correctly).

      • Need a Hobby says:

        RHONY’s women were on annual contracts. Recall Season 3 contract negotiations were prolonged due to hold outs for more bucks. This would not have been the case if they had signed 3 yr/season contracts with a fixed scale.

        Someone from the NJ cast allegedly started the rumor of three yr contracts with a fixed rate that could not be renegotiated until the end of the contract. All the shows have different production companies so what may (allegedly) apply to one show does not necessarily have anything to do with another show.

    • Squirrels says:

      Ok. so here we have potentially idiotic women with representation worthy of “My Cousin Vinney,” or was the deal to be “Fabuwous” the main event? Holy Bat Shit, either way they cooked their own gooses. Tools unite.

      • Squirrels says:

        If one doesn’t exist already, I may start a “Tools Made Fools” business, complete with a union (for clout purposes only, of course. Wouldn’t want to advocate physical pain.)

      • dumberries says:

        Squirrels – I think you’re right. The opportunity to be “Fabuwous” on tv got some of these women to drink the Bravo contract Kool-aid. Some of them would exploit themselves for free – no doubt!

        • Squirrels says:

          I can see the “pick me, pick me” mentality for the first year, after which they would rise or fall on their own merit as a draw for the series. What I can’t see is any self respecting entertainment attorney forgetting to put a possible syndication bid into the mix from the get go.

          Maybe I missed my calling.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      I went looking for an Andy tweet when there was a lot of chatter about how underpaid the housewives are:

      This was tweeted to him – @CarolineManzo @JacLaurita @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice I must say this though. I think it’s BS that @BravoAndy @Bravotv doesn’t pay the HWs for reunion taping. 8 hours a day? No lunch? Is that even legal? Especially since Bravo making $ hand over fist with highest ratings! Terrible!

      Here was his response:

      “@$$$$$$ Don’t believe all u read. Housewives are taken care of and last time I checked, being a Hwife was not mandatory.

      I think the last sentence says it all.

      • nancy says:

        It sure does, MickeyMouth. Greed Greed Greed, Brovo. And the HW have brought you so much money. Shame on you.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      No residuals, especially since Bravo had not ever syndicated their programs before.

      But the allegations about Atlanta and 3 yr contracts is based on a rumor allegedly promulgated by a NJ HW and posted on a internet gossip sheet (Rob S).

      NJ, Atlanta, OC and RHONY all have different production companies. Rob basically prints whatever he’s told, especially when it’s spin from Teresa and Jill, for example. Just because he puts it in his column doesn’t make it so, as Jill would say.

      In fact, the RHONY cast had hold outs for the third season…if they had three year contracts with non-negotiable pay obviously that would not have been the case. B’s observation to what this Rob person had alleged was basically that Rob didn’t know shit about the HW’s pay.

  59. MickeyMouth says:

    Has this been posted. Watch for the wink at the end – like it’s a moot point cause MS ain’t coming back.


  60. Adgirl says:

    I’m ready for Bravo to move on from the Real Housewives of (Whereever). I’m tired of trying to locate entertainment from hours of drunken, vapid, over spending, screeching bores. At least NY is better because of humor supplied by Bethenny and Sonja. The others are just plain awful. The only other woman that I enjoy on RH is Kandi Buress.

    I’d love to see a gay version. At least the screaming would be a more articulate.

    • nancy says:

      HOORAW. Try the Beekman guys. Love their show. Humor, working, struggles, laughs, love. Let’s hope for more of this type of series.

      • dumberries says:

        The Beekman Boys is great! Took me awhile to find it on Planet Green (Comcast OnDemand in my area). error404 does a great weekly video blog and provides the link here.

  61. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Adgirl, LOGO is doing a gay “housewives”,it was announced earlier this summer!

    • nancy says:

      Awesome. Love the gays. My husband of 20 plus years can not understand my love of gays. Can’t understand why. Have a neice who is gay and he has a cousin who is gay. But he his totally with all rights for all people. Some of his friends are gay. Don’t get his not getting my love of all. He love Kathy G. with a passion. Can’t stop laughing. Oh well.

    • nancy says:

      Is this a channel? Where do I find it?

  62. Quincy IL says:

    I googled Taylor from Rachel Zoe.


    Brad called Taylor a thief last Tues. and it really bothered me. Taylor states that she is not a sample size. The article also points out that Brad himself is responsible for the clothes and that was true last year. I don’t understand why Rachel and Brad can destroy Taylor’s name while Taylor has to abide by a confidentiality agreement. Every business here is very careful not to bad mouth fired employees. I can’t believe that Rachel can deliberately go out to destroy Taylor as she is doing when she speaks to us on camera, to producers on the phone and to her employees. I think Taylor and Rodger butted heads over how to run the business and he fired her. Whenever the family member of the boss gets a promotion of hard working employees there is trouble.

    I dislike Brad’s work ethic. He has Rachel designing his wardrobe when there is a lot of work to be done. He’s Rachels playmate.

    • NormaJean says:

      I agree with you. If I was Taylor I would be getting a lawyer and sue Rachel, Rodger, Brad, and Bravo if they’re lying.

    • kats2 says:

      I thought Brad stating that was very harsh and immediately thought the new title has gone to his head. That sucks that Taylor cannot tell her side of the story. I didn’t watch a lot in the past but while bitchy she never struck me as a person who would steal from RZ, she might beat the crap out of her, but steal from her.

      The show is a real joke to me, I get the talent involved with being a stylist and the pressure of wanting to please the oh so important clients but the constant OMG this and OMG that over every little thing that happens is beyond over dramatic. And another fabulous dress always shows up, so STFU the world is not going to end. These people get a hangnail and they call an ambulance. But the funniest part was the “husband” trying to pull off the heterosexual male having beers with the guys watching football. Sorry Rodger but you tried a little too hard and said too many times that you were watching football for me to believe it was real. Rodger was more excited and into watching the Golden Globes red carpet arrivals. Just another gay husband who is not fooling me.

      • TLM says:

        I don’t think Rodger is gay, but I don’t get what he sees in Rachel either. He does seem irritated with her obsessiveness, and I do wonder what discussions, if any, they have offline about her weight. Trust me, for him to stay with her through all her melodramatic crap, it has GOT to be love.

        I want to know if there’s any piece of clothing ever shoved in front of Rachel that has a designer label on it that she doesn’t say she loves or make orgasm noises over. I would love to get clothing from Target or The Gap and sew labels into it from Stella McCartney or Roberto Cavalli, watch her go crazy and then do the big reveal. Rachel would probably have a heart attack. The woman only cares about expensive labels and in my opinion, has no sense of taste.

        There is not ONE THING I’ve ever seen Rachel wear that I remotely liked. Brad has had all the style of Senator Paul Simon (no offense meant, but I think the Senator would hardly call himself a fashionisto). Why would anyone take fashion advice from a guy who dresses like it’s the 1920s and a woman who dresses like it’s 1970? I wouldn’t expect that they would make me into a clone of theirs, but I would expect them to know how to look current and relevant yet show their own style. I don’t think either one of them does.

        Taylor, on the other hand, had great style and a great eye, and she managed to find things out of the morass of high-priced crap the Zoe studio sees that looked very cool and wearable. When Rachel said she was going to get a bob haircut to change her style because she needed to renew herself after Taylor’s departure, I was hoping she was serious. Part of having style is evolving and changing. I am so sick of that dumb hairdo she has that looks like she hasn’t washed her hair in a week. And it never, ever changes.

        I would bet the entire team of BP executives in the wake of the Gulf oil spill doesn’t get as upset as much as Rachel Zoe does over her work. Paradoxically, however, her voice remains monotone, and her overly Botoxed face motionless.

        • Quincy IL says:

          The dress that was stolen/sent to Malibu didn’t please Rachel when she finally saw it. There was a dress last year that she wanted to change, but she didn’t like it after the change also.

          • TLM says:

            Point taken, but considering the enormous amount of things she sees, it is unbelivably rare for her to say she doesn’t like something. And there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to what she likes, no style that emerges. She just seems to hear a designer’s name and starts cooing. I thought it was completely arrogant for her to restyle a dress by a designer for Cameron Diaz…like there aren’t enough dresses and designers out there?? And I thought the result which she gushed over was horrendous and mashed down Cameron’s already-small breasts. It made her look absolutely flatchested, and Rachel acted like this dress was a triumph.

            • Quincy IL says:

              If Rachel were to really dish the dresser, those designers would stop sending her freebies to use.

        • Quincy IL says:

          Rodger is not gay. I think he loves Rachel. He puts up with her and no one would do that if they weren’t in love.

        • I know much has been said about Rachel’s extreme weight loss, but it has always been hidden well on the show with layered clothing, ect. But during the “makeover” scene it was dramatically exposed. Her chest looked like a skeleton with skin stretched over it.

          Now Roger wants a baby? I don’t think that’s going to happen.

          • TLM says:

            Did anyone else think it was beyond hilarious on Rachel Zoe that Rodger said nonchalantly, “Let’s figure out what we’re doing for dinner” and Rachel’s response was, “You’re always so hungry!” Sorry, Rachel, most of us have more than a once-a-week feeding of half a grapefruit!!!

      • kats2 says:

        I think he is so very gay.

    • I can’t for the life of me figure out why I keep watching that show. Rachel & whoever are so freaking shallow & vapid, it disgusts me. All the melodramatics over a damn dress that the designer probably sent to Brosnan’s house because Zoe is so scatter-brained she didn’t put in for it in time…”Call the police!!” Oh sure, lady, I bet the LA cops have nothing better to do & are just *dying* to go chasing after a damn dress.

      And the constant harping on Taylor is just RHONJ “let’s make Danielle’s life a living hell” all over again. Calling her a thief & pretending you have PTSD because of what she supposedly did is OTT (& quite frankly, more ammo for Taylor’s lawyers when she sues their asses off). Whatcha wanna bet that the $$ discrepancies were Rachel & Brad dipping their hands in the kitty & not Taylor skimming off the top?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Taylor isn’t doing anything or saying anything because whatever the real reason they fired her for is one that likely would carry criminal charges (Rodger said something vaguely about her expense account so I am inclined to think the reason she was terminated had to do with accounting not theft). They all need to stop talking about her incessently and focus on their vapid little universe!

  63. NormaJean says:

    Kelly posted a picture on Twitter. Is it just me or does it looked photoshopped?


  64. kats2 says:

    This might be a silly question but did any of you watch BGM lost footage? I see no comments about it so not sure if people didn’t watch or just waiting for Lynn’s blog to talk about it.

    If anyone out there watched it was anyone else surprised that their apartment was not owned but rented? Did I miss something with this??

    • NormaJean says:

      I watched the show. I was surprised too, not so much that it was rented but that it seemed like they didn’t have a firm lease.

    • Ellabean says:

      I’m with ya, Kats. Just watched last episode plus Lost Footage Epi this afternoon – so fresh in my mind. Was surprised at the same thing – when potential buyers came by the apt and both Julie & Beth tried to put negative vibe on the apt.

      Didn’t quite understand the renting arrnagement and why buyers were allowed to look/see the place while people (Bethenney & Co) were there. Can someone explain ?

    • Need a Hobby says:

      I wasn’t surprised that the apt was rented. Her last apt was rented. She may have gotten a deal on this one because the owner was really looking to sell it and had only rented it out until he finds a buyer.

      People on some other sites had been claiming that B was rich and/because she inherited all this money from her father and that she even bought the apt in anticipation of his demise. (Maxine isn’t the only one who pulls BS out of their ass. )

      Obviously not the case.

      • nancy says:

        Thank you, TrueLifeDiva. I will find it.

      • TLM says:

        I think you may be right about B taking the apt because she got a deal on it, which is just like Bethenny to do. It seems like she really loves it there, and I would have expected that she was ready to buy with her new income from her books and drinks. Maybe she wants to stay flexible, and since real estate sales have been tough, she doesn’t want to get stuck with that unit if they decide to move again. I had recently found the address of their building and posted it on here, and I was looking at what units sold and when on Zillow. The timing seemed wrong, so the fact that they are renting explains it.

        On a separate note, I was looking for the SG margarita tonight in PA in one of our state stores and figured I would finally try it, but it doesn’t even look like they have a place for it on the shelves. B had said it would be available, but it looks like they never got it at the store I went to.

      • Quincy IL says:

        I’m not surprised that Bethenny would come up with a plan to spoil the sale. LOL

        • TLM says:

          She definitely had a strategy there. The realtor looked like if he could have strangled her and gotten away with it, he would have. 😉

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bethenny’s old apartment was tiny and it sounded like Jason’s was nasty – so they rented a bigger place *Bravo approved* for the show’s taping. Don’t they own a place now outside the city? The final scene of Bryn’s room didn’t appear to be painted apple green either so I think the condo was temporary housing and a six month lease is better than no revenue at all.

  65. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @NANCY, yes LOGO is a cable channel.
    @NORMAJEAN, Kelly ugly as usual with her grimace/smile and horse hair.

  66. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Its hard to look at Kelly too closely. I honestly find her horrible looking!

  67. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Okay, you twisted my arm! I went back and I do see the cropping. With her ratty hair there should be a “halo” of fly aways. Definitely suspect. If she was gonna photoshp, she could’ve used a more flattering pic. But I keep forgetting that she thinks she’s gorgeous and has horrible taste:-)

  68. boston02127 says:

    Caroline’s tweet—-Our very own @AlbieManzo is featured as one of TV’s top reality hunks! Who agrees? Would you want him as your bf? http://j.mp/axCMEM

    BLECH~ PUKE~SHIVER~~~~ick ick ick
    The pole was probably take at the Stevie Wonder school for girls.

  69. cusi77 says:

    Hello Lynn! Hi to everyone!

    I watched the rerun of NJHW and catching things I missed. There were two ice sculptures in Audriana’s Baptize party at the Bstone! They were filming the Cross most of the time, as well as the bread with Audriana’s name. But it was one tall sculpture at the entrance of the party room -very briefly taken on camera- at the place where they had cocktails before dinner. I am always working while the TV is on… this time I was actually paying attention… what a non-guilty pleasure! The reason it is a non guilty pleasure, is because I can always come here, with Lynn and you guys, read Great Blogs and comments, have a blast and get the fun of your remarks.

    Thanks Lynn, great BLOG on DC! TY for this great place to congregate!

  70. boston02127 says:

    Laura–I posed the link so you can watch for the news.
    ‘Real Housewives’ star’s bankruptcy auction. A hearing is scheduled for Monday at U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Newark to determine if the Aug. 22 sale should happen.


    • cusi77 says:

      Teresa might be not too much worried…. Selling her book well she can always buy new furniture, after all she likes shopping! And her creditors will get
      N -O T- H- I -N- G , That piano… $2,000.- is nothing for what is really worth!

      • dumberries says:

        With the estimated value of everything only $151k, I wonder if the court will rule that it’s not worth the auction. Maybe, the embarrassing public announcement of the auction was a strategic punishment from the bankruptcy trustee. God, I hope they don’t get out of this scott free!

        Busy week for the Guidices coming up. Monday in bankruptcy court and Friday in court to appeal the DWI community service. Ain’t it a F-a-b-u-l-o-u-s life Teresa!

  71. Squirrels says:

    Ugh. As much as I hate to admit it, Bravo has achieved it’s goal. Make women hate women.

    We all know women who exemplify the housewives. We all know women who are less than what we admire. Many of us know women who sell their souls for the almighty dollar, be it carrying on with a married man – the happy girl on the side. Be it a woman who gives not one hoot about who she sleeps with to pay her bills, she exists. Look at Jersey Shores, selling your body figuratively is now the new hip trend, or am I reading this wrong? The world’s oldest profession has that reputation for a reason. Men are innocent. To them…. “It is what it is, so sue me, mentality.”

    The difference to me, and what angers me beyond spitting, is Bravo not only makes money at it, Bravo celebrates it. If ever a network was willing to sell the souls of women, this one takes the proverbial cake by allowing a cool show like Bethenny’s who realistically puts it all out there, to be the buffer in this world of “let’s fuck women; won’t it be a gas? She’ll be the gem we can all run to as producers to prove we love women.” With the new housewife adventure that is DC, they came out of the gate running. Um, no. Make that bleeding.

    The powers that be in the RH franchise, are banking on women hating women, an old and true tradition. They don’t give one goat’s beard as to the damage they do. It’s all about the money.

    I have no love for Teresa (the complete dope), Jill, (I’m more important than God) Zarin, or (don’t even get me started on) Kelly what’s her name. I won’t stop watching, but my attitude has changed drastically. Bravo is not only willing, but banking on the exploitation of women, and guess what? We women buy into it, attacking the cast, precisely what has made the ratings soar in their little 1M plus viewer world. BTW, there are 300M people who live in this country. Andy, et. al. are midgets in comparison to the whole picture of who watches what on television.

    Is anyone attacking Jeff Lewis? A man who proves time and time again, he has major emotional problems and takes them out on the women who work for him? No. Why is he given a pass? We as females attack what we fear most. Idiot women, we hand the men a band aide. I’m no feminist, but I’m certainly not stupid. Why do productions of Let’s Bash the Women work? Because it’s easy. Bravo thinks they have figured that out, a la Jersey Shore or CBS’s new season of Big Brother. Women love to hate women they feel insulted by and are beneath themselves, me included.

    Let’s face it. It’s easier for women to hate on one another than to see the deeper truth. MEN STILL THINK THEY RULE THE WORLD, and we let them.

    My personal truth if you break it down? Men plant the seeds, then watch the bitches go to town against one another. Why does it work? The men in charge just do a better job because they have the power we allow them by being idiots and buying into their crap.

    Rant over. Someone please pass me a Pinot. TY.

    • Anitabee says:

      Squirrels — great rant with great points.

      All I have is Riesling tonight. I’m serving you a big glass because I know you would never dare return it like Cat O. did to Stacie.

      • Squirrels says:

        Ty Anita. Not only will I accept your offer, I’ll add lime juice and a dash of humility, after which, I plan to get together w/ my best girl friend and get smashed.

        Ok, that’s a lie. I’ll just get together with her and silently stew… with a dash of “pass that damned bottle.”


        • Kukulet says:

          Is anyone attacking Jeff Lewis? A man who proves time and time again, he has major emotional problems and takes them out on the women who work for him? No. Why is he given a pass?

          The significant difference is, to me, that Jeff acknowledges his issues. He knows he takes it out on the women who work for him…and those women don’t hesitate to tell him so. BUT, and I have to add this, there have been moments all through the seasons of Flipping Out where Jeff has shown that he genuinely cares for Zoila and for Jenny, and for several of the other women we have seen him interact with…and they for him.

          I’m not saying that caring for these women exonerates Jeff for treating them badly…but he has displayed that he is capable of humility, and a drop of humility always goes a long way. I think that has as much to do with why Jeff isn’t attacked as much as Jill, etc, as the fact that he is a man.

          • Quincy IL says:

            It’s a little like living with a verbally abusive husband who gives you gifts to make up for his constant insults. I would not work for Jeff, but I like his final products.

        • Anitabee says:

          It’s Hogue Late Harvest Riesling. Pretty damn tasty. Here’s another glass (pass to Squirrels).

          Oops — bottle all gone 🙂

    • TLM says:

      I couldn’t disagree more. I have slammed Jeff Lewis for being sadistic to his employees and don’t care to see him anymore, and I and others have repeatedly expressed disgust at Juicy Joe, the Jersey Shore guys. People are being highly critical of both the Salahis. These shows are nothing more than the modern-day soap operas with their villains and heroes, both male and female, and we love to hate some and love to love others. Soap operas are being canceled while unscripted show viewership is rising. Is it exploitive? That’s a whole other discussion. But I think to make this some plot against women just isn’t true. Bravo’s programming is headed by a gay man, and his network has also promoted Jackie Warner, Bethenny Frankel and many women chefs on Top Chef. How many years have we heard that “the best chefs are all men”? But Bravo’s cooking show is divided about 50/50 by gender. In Project Runway, Bravo gave Heidi Klum her own show, which she executive produced, and was about 50/50 men and women designers. Rachel Zoe has her own show, Sarah Jessica Parker produces Work of Art, and other Bravo shows include Tyra Banks’ ANTM, Kell on Earth, Tabatha’s Salon Takeover, Patti Stanger…all of these are women who own their own successful businesses. Bravo trying to attack women? I’m just not seeing it.

      Personally, I think shows like Flavor of Love and The Bachelor are far more exploitive toward women because of the premise and the way it’s set up, but these women have opted to be there. A lot of unscripted tv is exploitive, whether it’s Tool Academy or Tila Tequila or Rock of Love or I Love NY or Big Brother or Fear Factor or The Biggest Loser or Cheaters . Both men and women are exploited on these shows.

      • dumberries says:

        Very valid points and well stated! And, Bravo gave Kathy G a forum to earn her way from the D-list to the A-list (when no other network would).

        I agree with Squirrels that Bravo isn’t trying to discourage anyone from allowing themselves to be exploited and Bravo reaps huge benefits from talentless fame mongers like some of the Housewives. But, those with true talent and work ethic will control their own destinies and maintain their integrity, and can earn huge rewards.

      • Squirrels says:

        And BTW, Jeff Lewis may be sadistic in your opinion. I won’t argue that. Yet to me? Misogynistic fits the bill. Just my opinion.

    • cusi77 says:

      Squirrels! So true! Women hating women. Spot on!

  72. Squirrels says:

    ” I’m no feminist”…. should read, “I’m no hard core feminist”


    • kats2 says:

      I liked your rant, you should do that more often. 🙂
      Good points, but I still hate these bitches 🙂
      (kidding, well I do but used the B word for effect)

      • dumberries says:

        Welcome back kats!

        Squirrels, handing you a virtual glass of pinot… If it helps at all, I’m an equal opportunity hater of unethical posers: Juicy is the bitch at the top of my current shit list!

    • Olivia says:

      You are so on point! But women sitting back and waiting for men to “clean up their acts” is never going to happen. Women do this to themselves, offering every reason under the sun as to why.

      In the case of Bravo for instance, these women, when presented with the premise and the opportunity to be hailed as “stars” replete with all the fame that goes with it, readily hopped onboard the express and joined right in. Rather than being bestowed with the acclaim they sought, many of us sat back and condemned the image these women send out to the delight of men who find the “woman on woman” concept rather titillating.

      The “patriarchal system” flourishes because of women. One only needs to look at Miley Cyrus as an example of the willingness to sexualize a teen for her shot at fame with parents willing and able to oblige. The Kardashian’s are now offering up their two youngest, ages 14 and 12, as models wearing and posing in the most provocative manner. Few see anything wrong with this idea of the exploitation of even the youngest among us but it is strictly up to the female to set the standards.

      Imagine if those young models just said “no” to posing in the most provocative manner simply to sell a handbag? Women are being exploited but seem to be actively participating in this role when they make the decision to cast their dignity aside and pretend their self worth does not matter.

      IMHO, some of the rantings and and the accompanied venting that takes place on this blog is solely to protest what we have come to accept that women are largely responsible, and unnecessarily so, for submitting to the portrayal of the worst characteristics of a gender. By doing so they are letting down the sisterhood.

      We are merely left with the “pleasure” of pointing that out. Bravo and others of that same stripe will continue to succeed as long as they have a waiting list available to these fools standing in line willing to serve.

      • Squirrels says:

        What she said…..

        Olivia, would you please be willing to accept the job of editing my book? You say what I’m thinking with much less effort.



        • Olivia says:

          You did it brilliantly!

          I think if we all bought into the premise that we are watching make believe crap that has been slapped together with the intent to not only show women in the most unflattering light, but to showcase the worst of female behavior, we would loathe these “stars” even more so.

          To think that just perhaps they have been quite willing to sign a contract to assume a “role” that not only cheapens them but invites derision aimed at their “performance” may make us sit up straighter and take notice.

          There is no denying that Danielle, the Salahi’s, Teresa, Sonja and perhaps Cat all come with baggage that has been made public. But is Jill Zarin really a bitch? Is Kelly really a danger to society? Are we really certain when watching these performances that it is exactly that? If so, then these women are wholly responsible for the blowback since they seem to have gone out of their way to give the producers what they sought.

          If not, then Bravo again has shown that they are willing to invite any form of outrageous behavior and are able to sit back, Andy Cohen fashion, grinning, smirking, and giggling at what is presented.

          Either way it does not enhance us in the least.

          • nancy says:

            Agree to a point. I just do not believe Brovo knew how crazy/drugs was

            • nancy says:

              Is she a danger to herself or those in her loop? Yea. Her children? Her “boyfriends?” (this has been proven in court ) Would you place anyone in her care? No because she has some real issues that I believe Brovo did not realize. Hate to defend Brovo but calls them like I see um

            • Squirrels says:

              See? This is my point. As a perspective employee, I had not only my job application scrutinized, but my financial/criminal records as well. (yes, I got my dealer’s license. Black Jack, not drugs. tee hee, and I have no criminal background.)

              Why is it I’m subjected to such intense scrutiny and yet some nobody with a few bucks and a good “pick me” story gets to represent me on national television? BECAUSE, no one cares. Today’s culture wants to see blood, be it in literal or figurative form. Oh chit… I forgot…. for the money. My bad.

              Am I alone in witnessing this?

              • nancy says:

                No Squirrels. You are not alone in this thinking. This is so sad but so true that money can sure as hell try to buy you class. Did I say that?

          • Anitabee says:

            If anyone on Bravo should get their own show it should be Jenny from Flipping Out — IMHO.

            I’d watch it — she isn’t Bethenny but I’d love to see how she is without Jeff freaking out on her all day long.

            • Kelly was quoted in an interview with Harper’s Magazine saying , It’s my job….I’ve worked so hard. It wasn’t always lollipops and unicorns. I tell my girls, ‘Your mom gets paid to engage in inappropriate behavior.’ It’s an amazing opportunity for them to see that being mean is not okay. I tell them, ‘If you’re in a situation like this, walk out. Don’t come back with jelly beans.'”

          • OneMoreinBoston says:

            “To think that just perhaps they have been quite willing to sign a contract to assume a “role” that not only cheapens them but invites derision aimed at their “performance” may make us sit up straighter and take notice.”

            So basically Bravo is another form of prostitution? Or at least exploitation?

            Wow-ladies. Super interesting posts and observations. You’ve given me a lot of food for thought while I watch the reruns.

            And really what you are posting makes me love Bethenny all the more. She saw the game, and then played the shit out of it.

            She knew that RW would be fraught with perils, and for the most part she sidestepped every one of them, and completely controlled her image, and brand. And made it look effortless.

            Bravo is in it for the dollars, and I don’t think they really care how they get those dollars.

            I think Jason and the baby were happy accidents, and when she and Bravo saw the outpouring of support and exposure she was getting, she took the ball and ran with it.

            Dina just gave up, packed her bags and left, while Bethenny took charge.

            So she decided to up the positive factor so she could prove that more viewers will tune in for a fun, positive, intelligent show than the negativity and backbiting of the RH.

            Kudos to her.

  73. Wall St Man says:

    Most of the apartments Bethany would want to buy require at a minimum 50% cash down some up to 100%. I read she is worth $5mil but I doubt she has say $1mil for a $2mil apartment. She may have a good income but likely her wealth is in her brand & won’t materialize unless she sells her company. My guess is Miss B currently cannot afford the type of NYC real estate she wants to buy. A one bedroom in a B neighborhood is still $5oo 000

    • Squirrels says:

      That may be true, but I doubt she has a poor credit rating. Here in SoCal, $500K is only 100K short of what I sold my 2000K SF free standing home for in 2006. At present, my sister is looking for a 2 bedroom in NYC for her daughter, an NYU grad. Yes, they got the bucks (daddy surgeon). I wish she’d adopt me!

      My point is, if you have the credit and the financial clout via income, nothing is out of bounds, and right now in NYC, allot of bargains exist.

      Not to be confused with San Diego. I can’t find a dog house within my budget right now. …. UGH. “America’s Favorite City” is killin’ me Smalls. I never should have sold my sailboat. For $650/mo, I could have lived the life of Riley.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Bethenny only have 5 million and she’s is living that life? Hard to believe. People with that amount around here (and lots of people have a lot more) drive 5 year old cars and have never been to the Virgin Islands or rented a suite in the Hamptons.

        She must have more than 5 million.

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  75. dumberries says:

    I don’t know if it’s a true or not, but when someone here tweeted Naughty Rob (that entertainment blogger) challenging him on the claim that Teresa’s book outsold B’s, he tweeted back that B was a business genius and she had just purchased a great apartment in SoHo. This was 2 weeks ago.

    Again, it’s hard to substantiate anything without source listings on the web, but the celebrity net worth site lists Bethenny’s net worth at 14 million and she makes $20k per episode. Jason Hoppy’s current net worth is listed as 5 million. If accurate (or anywhere near accurate), they could afford to buy and probably have substantial liquid assets available now.

  76. Way to go Squirrels and Olivia! You said it brilliantly. We blog, tweet, facebook, and comment, and the network producers laugh their way to the bank. We are some of their best advertisers, and we do it for free.

    And I will have a vodka straight up with a twist of lime!

  77. http://www.womanaroundtown.com/filming-around/woman-around-townramona-singer-the-real-real-housewife

    Ramona Tweeted a link to this article about her earlier. Finally a mystery solved for me.
    In it she says that she initially got the money to start her own business from her dad. She says it was the only nice thing he ever did for her.
    She says that it was a $70,000. LOAN! And that she paid it back about a month later with interest.
    I’d really like to know more about that.
    Maybe she used to loan $$ as capitol to finance another loan? I can’t imagine that she made that much of a profit in a month.

    • Anitabee says:

      Depending on how the economy was when she initially did it, it would have been very possible for her to have down that. People who can move overstock in apparel can make some big bucks.

    • Squirrels says:

      However she did it, works for me. She paid it off. Now that’s a woman on a mission. Yay her.

      I actually looked at HSN? is that right? when she was on. I fell in love with a pink ring. $179 on get rid of it sale. I’ve never been on the HSN site but really appreciated it, like Amazon books. Too many returned the ring. Just didn’t rise to the level of what ppl expected.

      Meanwhile, I bought the Bissel hard floor cleaner, a bargain at $79.99, right?

      My DVR allows you to set up favorite channels. HSN IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THEM.

  78. Wall St Man says:

    I hope you are correct & Miss B is worth $15mil.

    • dumberries says:

      WSM, I hope the website listing is correct too! But, it doesn’t list how they arrive at the celebrity’s worth, so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.


    • Squirrels says:

      Completely off topic, Nice to see you WSM. Tell the Mz WSL to get back in here! 😀

  79. nancy says:

    Nite all. Great comments today, as always.

  80. Shelli (Lotusflowah) says:

    I was disappointed, Lynn. Thought you’d recommend we ship ALL Housewives to Afghanistan and just let them fight their way back to civilization. you missed a real opportunity for change “I” could believe in.

    As for DC… I don’t watch. Only RH franchise as of yet I simply will not spend my time on.

  81. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    I’ve been posting to Lynn for awhile now im hardly a troll we can agree to disagree but to be dismissed as such is childish
    That Being said it does seem that Theresa handled the situation a lot more mature then you would expect from watching the show

    • nancy says:

      Fruit Loops, I posted this about the troll. Need to say I am sorry. We all have the right to post how we feel and our opinons . This is the great idea behind Lynns blog. Please forgive.

  82. Olivia says:

    Both blogs and commentators understand that we are merely discussing a “reality” tv show right? I mean that this is not a forum dedicated to political discourse or a referendum regarding foreign policy.

    This blog was established because Bravo blocked any discussion concerning the questionable behavior exhibited by these women by only allowing the most “positive” commentary with a few negatives thrown in for “balance”. Whatever “reality” means in t.v. land, the posters were invited to comment on blogs set up by the “stars” to capture the responses.

    Everyone posting has selected their “favorites” and that alone should not be enough of a reason to call out others who may disagree through name calling and insults.

    Perhaps those who wish to create a “blog war” over a nonsensical show featuring nonsensical people really need to get a life. The only thing asked of those who comment here is that they remain respectful of the other commentators and refrain from insulting one another. Those who crossed that line have been removed.

    It is a tv show with about as much basis in reality as a comic book! Some people just don’t get it. If these so called “stars” revert to twittering and blog pages, they are inviting the feedback in order to remain viable. Otherwise they would be talking to themselves. What they are asking for is “positive validation” of their very existence by employing these methods and if what they put out there is foolish they are called out.

  83. Trini says:

    Who are you animals going to stalk today? lynn where are you? have you come to yet? put the booze down babe, your disposition might improve.

  84. dumberries says:

    Good morning Olivia.

  85. WindyCityWondering says:

    As all people are entitled to their opinions, some choose to be offensive on purpose and they will find a place where that is welcomed. When they choose to take their opinions to sites that are not of that nature they get offended – sorry not everyone thinks or feels or attacks in that manner. Whatever reaction they are looking for sometimes isn’t what they expected or really wanted – too bad. My suggestion – read this blog and leave if it isn’t your cup of tea. Go back where you are comfortable and post there.
    Reality television is entertainment and taking that into one’s personal life as real, viable, factual is not what is done on this sight. We don’t hate the individual person, we hate the actions/words that we are shown for entertainment. When these “stars” open their lives to views it should be expected. When these same people commit crimes in real life – they will also be subjected to comments of those who follow them.

    • nancy says:

      WOW. These people are aweful. Just ignore them. They will fly back to where they came from. Right, Tweetybird, Joan and the rest. Oh and Otay.

  86. Wall St Man says:

    Good Morning (mostly ladies,I think)
    Curious George is the most precious monkey WSL loves & when escaping from villains he swings through trees & always champions over all the “dumb dumbs” !

    Mayb by Mon WSL can tell u of a Zarrin interaction !I

    want to start a discussion about miss B WSL is not enamored w/her mouth & bathroom scenes . We figured it is because in NYC we have met many many talented & successful ladies. Granted most don’t have their own TV shows(but we do have friends who do) but that may b the central point. Miss B was an actress 1st.(So was Alex). Is Miss B completely PLAYING us. Is Jason too ? If they r I am sure Miss B will have a laugh along w/ us ultimately and the joke could b on Andy & his casting. Note the acting :

  87. I just read the recap. I skipped over it before because I was waiting to watch the show before I read it. And I am LMFAO at:
    “I thought that the cork hitting Lynda in the ass might just loosen the stick that’s up there.”

  88. Shelli (Lotusflowah) says:

    Why would someone go on a Real Housewives blog to have a political discussion? Stop and think a second before jumping on people and claiming they aren’t being respectuful. Not everyone who comes here and comments is out to slam Lynn or cause trouble. The pack mentality scares away new posters, no matter what the topic of discussions. Just my (apparently worthless) $.02.

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