I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny Getting Married? Lost Footage

I Hate Jill Zarin       Bethenny Getting Married?   Lost Footage                    August 14, 2010

We start with The Stroller Lessons, talk about neurotic, Bethenny is panicking because she’s worried about not being able to remember all of the different functions of the stroller and it is making her even more unable to pay attention to the lesson and gets nothing out of it.  OMG Pregnant Bethenny is loony!

Next we see Bethenny having lunch with her friends Lauren and Jake.  She tells us that it has been a crazy couple of months and it is nice to have just a normal lunch.  This would have been filmed shortly after the completion of the filming of RHONY and I can see why she’s relieved to be with true friends.  They briefly touch on schools and we learned with Alex McCord that you will need to apply to get into the school you want immediately.  The three friends also talk about a baby concierge to help with all of the different aspects of having a baby.  Bethenny scoffs at the idea.

In the next scene, Bethenny has a meeting with a Baby Concierge, with the baby in her arms, so obviously this is several months later,  they go over many of the different things that new mom’s who are businesswomen and know nothing of having babies need to know.   Cookie walks over delivering some tidbits of food to Bethenny and her guest, Cookie is covered with what looks like scrambled egg droppings?   It turns out Gina, the baby nanny from heaven may not be a wiz in the kitchen but enjoys eating. 

I didn’t completely understand why Bethenny was showing her apartment to prospective buyers, I thought that she and Jason purchased the apartment but based on the fact that she was forced to show it, tells me that she is renting.  I thought it was hysterical that she lifted her shirt and pretended to drink a beer but Julie’s brilliant idea of asking who in the building smokes weed was beyond genius!   It was all pretty rotten to do to the landlord, but really funny nonetheless!  We then learn it was Jason’s idea, that guy has a hell of a sense of humor, I can see why Bethenny loves him! 

Max and Julie’s small altercation in the Skinnygirl office seemed to me to be a senseless, they talked in circles and it seemed to me that was all for the camera’s.  Neither wanted to give any ground so as not to look bad on television.   In the end, Max needed to show a little more respect to Julie, she is so obviously the brains of the outfit.

I really enjoyed seeing more scenes from Bethenny and Jason’s wedding, it looked like a really fun party.  A formal wedding at the Four Seasons could have been a very stuffy and snobby event but with the fun guests that were invited, there was no way that was going to happen.  That dance floor was on fire.  We did catch a glimpse of Alex and Simon again at the wedding.

Did Shawn really call Bethenny and tell her that they can’t secure red roses for the wedding?  Who does that?  Red roses are one flower that is available all year long, maybe they all sold out for Valentine ’s Day?  Shawn, what are you thinking?

We then see a montage of Bethenny’s friends and I’m disappointed not to see Alex, I think the show downplayed Alex’s friendship with Bethenny.  They are very close and in fact speak on the phone almost daily and see each other frequently.  In any case this segment was actually about Bethenny’s very best friend, Cookie! 

Bethenny and Max enjoy a nice lunch together but it turns into a pop culture quiz for the diners next to them.  Max uses the term “wife up” as a reference to getting married and Bethenny had not heard that before so she asks the other diners if they’d heard it.  Let’s face it, there is no way Max is smart enough to have come up with that himself, it must be a new term that the young guys are using.  I will admit that I can certainly see why this scene was cut out of the original episodes, it was a bit over the top, even for Bethenny.

I was very interested to hear more about the telephone conversation between Jason’s mom and Bethenny’s mom.  It seemed during the season that it was merely a quick phone call with Jason’s mom simply informing Bonnie that Bethenny wasn’t home and that she was in labor.  In actuality we learned that it was a 20-minute phone call and Mrs. Hoppy filled B’s mom in on some details about her son. 

The tasting at the venue for the rehearsal dinner I had seen before, I think it was one of the bonus footage clips on Bravotv.com, but it was so nice to see Bethenny and Shawn laughing and joking together with no stress. 

How cute was the matching outfits that Bethenny got for her friend’s son and baby Bryn?  Without missing a beat Bethenny’s one liner of “He’s just not that into you” was hysterical when the little boy cried at the site of Bryn. 

I thought the lost footage was well worth the hour as we got to see more of the beautiful baby Bryn along with some really funny moments of Bethenny’s life.  It is so amazing that her home is full of love, laughter and good friends as well as the most wonderful husband and Bethenny deserves it all!

I do think that there will be a second season for a few reasons.  Bethenny sent a tweet out a few weeks ago asking fans what they thought the name of the show should be for Season Two, I don’t think she would have done that had she not been considering coming back for another season.  As for Bravo’s end of the equation, why wouldn’t they?  I would guess that it is substantially less expensive to produce Bethenny’s show than a housewives show, as there are less “stars” to pay the big money to and they’ve got a ratings hit on their hands so it seems like a no-brainer to me!  I look forward to a Season Two.

Don’t forget to check out a few other web sites:



http://www.realitywives.net/  This is a chat site that was set up by @real_housewives and Stacey opens it during the shows for anyone who wants to chat. 

Don’t forget to submit any categories that you have for the First Annual Housewives Twitter Awards, send to @followinyoazz on Twitter, beginning August 18 you can send her your votes in each category.  To view each category, you can go to @followinyoazz twitter page and look at her “favorites”.  Fun! 

Finally, I was sent this long article about the Michaele and her husband’s winery, Oasis, thank you to our anonymous contributor, she’s a great lady who reads the blogs but no longer comments …

Casey Margenau was one of the people who went on Larry King, Joy Behar, and other people to defend the DC S(a)Limeys (not to be confused with Slade Slimey) when the WH party crashing incident took place.

Margenau has a reputation as an angel investor buying the Oasis Winery out of bankruptcy for Tareq Salahi and 80 acres in Bealeton that he rents back to a church for a nominal sum to run a program for at-risk youths.

Margenau’s real estate license was put on probation for two years from February 3, 2009, and he was fined $2,800 by the Virginia Real Estate Board and ordered to attend ethics classes. The board charged him with unworthiness and incompetence.

The charges included that Margenau, without the consent of the owners, was renting out property that he was supposed to be selling.

According to Fauquier real property records, the Salahi parents still own the the physical property, together with the Salahi Family Limited Partnership. I don’t know if Tareq is included in the partnership or not. He and Michaele NEVER owned Oasis. He liked to say he did but at most he owned 5%. 


As a teenager, Tareq Salahi grew up helping his father plant and cultivate the vineyard he started in 1975 on a postage-stamp parcel in Fauquier County. Salahi, 38, became enamored with the wine business, gaining apprenticeships at vineyards in Australia and Napa Valley, and helping to build Oasis Vineyard near Hume into an operation that sold 18,000 cases last year.

In recognition of his passion for making wine, his father pledged to sell the vineyard to him one day for a dollar, Salahi recalls.

Last week in a Fauquier County courtroom, a year long feud over the ownership and operation of Oasis came to quiet closure. During a hearing in circuit court Nov. 27, attorneys presented Judge Jeffrey W. Parker with an agreed order that all parties had approved N. Casey Margenau’s offer to buy the property and assets of Oasis Vineyard Inc. for $4.15 million.

Margenau’s offer apparently exceeded that of Tuscan Ventures LLC, a holding company widely believed to be controlled by Miami Heat basketball player Shaquille O’Neal, which bid $4 million.

“In a game of one-on-one I took Shaq on and won,” said Margenau, a McLean Realtor who is one of the top brokers on the East Coast. “This is not charity, but I am helping a friend. I’m just giving Tareq a vehicle to realize his dreams.”

Margenau, 48, acknowledged that what he knows about the wine business could “fit in Tareq’s pinkie,” adding that “if this vineyard left family hands, he’d be crushed.”

The new owner is a long time friend and confidante of the Salahis. Casey and his wife Molly introduced Tareq to his now wife Michaele at their holiday party in 2000, and both were in their wedding. “Tareq has spent 30 years of his life trying to make the vineyard something,” Margenau said. “Shaq liked his ideas so much that he tried to buy the vineyard without him.”

O’Neal’s manager, Mike Parris, did not return phone calls for comment.

This is not Margenau’s first angel investment in Fauquier County. He also owns 80 acres in Bealeton that he rents back to a church for a nominal sum to run a program for at-risk youths. He also owns two rental properties in the county. Much of his real estate business is in Fairfax County, where his ReMax-associated firm, Margenau & Associates, books an average $180 million per year in real estate closings. For the preceding five years, he was ranked the top ReMax agent in the world.

“Justice prevailed at the end of the day,” Salahi said. “My mom was trying to ruin it and there was nothing good about Shaq’s offer because it contained so many contingencies. Casey wants to preserve Oasis. We’re very grateful for his support.”

Corrine Salahi was not available for comment. “I’m not speaking with my mom,” Salahi said. “She wants to put my dad away in a nursing home and she has betrayed the whole family. She can’t be forgiven for this betrayal.”

Thus ended a family saga which Tareq likens to the soapy 1980’s television series, Falcon Crest. “My dad and I started side by side making the wines,” he said. “I planted my first vines when I was eight years old and this is the only thing I know … Bushogging and bottling all these years.”

The new owner has pledged to lease back the 108-acre vineyard for him to run. “To me this is a real estate deal,” Margenau said. “It’s more like buying a shopping center and leasing it back to skilled managers.”

A vineyard grows

After receiving a degree in business management and oenology from the University of California at Davis, Salahi became managing director of Oasis in 1994, helping to direct operations while his father Dirgham coasted into retirement and his mother Corrine ran a Montessori school in Alexandria. “My mother was never here,” Tareq recalled. “She’s only reappeared in the last two years.”

The younger Salahi created the vineyard’s vaunted Meritage line, which won Gold Medals at 1994 and 1996 world wine championships, and in 1998 he launched a Cuvee “Celebration” sparkling wine, which also garnered top awards. With a brand of enthusiasm that would make P.T. Barnum blush, the prodigal son criss-crossed the world promoting the Oasis brand, playing polo at Windsor Castle against Prince Charles and hosting the world polo championships last May at Morven Park, featuring the band “Journey.”

By last year, the vineyard was producing as many as 18,000 cases per year, and Salahi had launched a successful limousine business, as well as a wine distribution and bottled water business. Wine Country Tours eventually grew into a 12-vehicle fleet, with limos, sedans, vans and motor coaches that delivered the vineyard 50 percent of its traffic last year. “Tourism has become a big part of the picture,” Salahi said

He calls the Piedmont wine-making region “the Napa valley of the East Coast, and he has big plans for the vineyard, such as a high-end bed and breakfast and a culinary school. “It’s a very grandiose plan that could take in a lot of money,” Margenau said. “Tareq has been a brilliant marketer who has made Oasis the biggest brand in Virginia.”

Three Virginia governors were also impressed with Salahi’s plan to market Virginia wine to the world, naming him to the Virginia Wine Board and most recently, chair of the Virginia Wine Tourism Office. Over the past decade, the Virginia Wineway, Loudoun Wine Trail, Blue Ridge Wineway and Virginia Wineries Alliance were created, attracting 980,000 wine tourists to the state, of which 336,000 visited Piedmont wineries, according to a USDA study.

Baby boomers from the densely-populated suburbs began making weekend pilgrimmages to Loudoun, Fauquier and Rappahannock vineyards. Many saw the day trips as an affordable and quick escape. “We offer something for everyone at all price points,” Salahi said. “So we decided not to become competitors with each other, but to work together … Oasis became bigger and stronger as a result.”

A feud erupts

One day last June, Shaquille O’Neal, one of the world’s best-known athletes, showed up at the vineyard unannounced. Michaele Salahi, a former model who’d known O’Neal through charity circles, said, “I just said to him ‘What are you doing here? And he said, ‘I’ve been talking to Mrs. Salahi and I’m thinking of buying Oasis.'”

Neither said they knew the vineyard was for sale, which Tareq said was a violation of their family partnership, naming the parents as 70 percent owners and Tareq and his brother Ishmael as 30 percent owners. His father, 80-year-old Durgham Salahi, has Parkinson’s disease and suffers from dementia. “She listed the place without my authorization,” Tareq said. “But we felt Shaq might make a good partner for our growth plans.”

A meeting was arranged in which the Salahis shared with Shaq their “secret” marketing plan of building a luxury B&B, spa and hosting wine-tasting dinners. “We figured he’d be our secret partner at Oasis,” Salahi said.

According to court documents, O’Neal formed a company named Tuscan Ventures to buy the vineyard. However, Salahi said it eventually became clear that O’Neal planned to own and operate the vineyard without him, and it was possible he might co-opt his ideas. “We had positive, productive meetings with Shaq and his people, but then things went south,” he recalled.

Tareq blamed his mother Corrine Salahi for causing turmoil at the vineyard, claiming she “abused” vineyard employees with “bullying tactics” and “fabricated claims,” and even wielding a pistol at times. Mrs. Salahi did not return calls for comment.

Since January the Fauquier Sheriff’s Office has recorded 26 incident reports at the vineyard, six naming Corrine Salahi, according to Major Paul Mercer, the Sheriff Office’s Public Information Officer. “We have sent deputies out there quite a few times this year,” Mercer said. “These cases involved everything from simple assault, motor vehicle theft, burglary and assault involving a family member.”

According to court documents, allegations of fraud and embezzlement of corporate assets were made by both the younger Salahi and his parents since litigation began last November. In June, the court appointed Thorpe as receiver of Oasis Vineyard, and in a report filed in circuit court, Warrenton attorney T. Huntley Thorpe III Thorpe described operation of the winery as “contentious.”

“There was an ongoing battle between Tareq Salahi [and his parents} Dirgham and Corrine Salahi for control of operations of the vineyard which led to numerous visits by the Fauquier County Sheriff’s Office,” Thorpe reported. Things were so bad that Thorpe recommended that operations be suspended or that the business be sold to Florida-based Tuscan Ventures LLC.

However, Tareq Salahi’s attorneys argued in an emergency motion filed earlier this month that “the terms of the Tuscan LLC contract” were not “in the best interest of the corporation” and that their client’s offer to buy the business should be accepted instead. Both Margenau and Salahi said the bid contained multiple contingencies and would not close for six months, giving the buyer a chance to walk away from the deal completely.

The younger Salahi said his plans were to see Oasis grow, while his mother’s plans were to downsize. Margenau said the vineyard is losing between $100,000 and $200,000 per year and had taken on debt, which triggered the court to appoint a receiver. “The vineyard is losing money but its auxiliary businesses are doing well,” Margenau said.

This was not the Salahis first fight. For years Tareq Salahi had been feuding with neighbors over noise complaints at the vineyard, and two years ago the Fauquier County Zoning Office limited event activities to 12 wine tastings per year.

Michaele Salahi registered as a lobbyist in Richmond and helped forged House Bill 2643, which removes the power of county zoning authorities to regulate “customary or usual” vineyard activities, such as wine dinners or weddings. The so-called buy-right legislation went into effect in July. Then Hurricane Isabella hit, wiping out their crop.

“In between Fauquier County’s zoning abuse, Isabella and now this, we’ve gotten beaten up all around,” Michaele Salahi said. “It’s all conspired to rip us apart, but we’ve stayed strong.”

As for Casey Margenau, he hopes to close on the vineyard and the home owned by Dirgham and Corrine Salahi by the end of the year. Tareq and Michaele Salahi will hold on to the wine tour business, event planning firm and distributorship.

“I didn’t want to own or operate a vineyard, but I am in the real estate business and that part I understand.”

Thanks again for your contribution my anon friend! 

Until Next Time…..

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522 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny Getting Married? Lost Footage

  1. Sha2000 says:

    Video of Kim crashing the BD party, lol.


    • Sha2000 says:

      Lol, check out the Hello Kitty shoes.

    • kats2 says:

      Thanks for the link Sha2000. I feel so bad for Kim G’s son, look at how his old mom is dressing for attention! Plus she is adding at least 10 years when she dresses this way. It is really gross, I feel bad for the kid.

      • Sha2000 says:

        I admit I like Kim pot stirrer (which is funny because I am so opposite of being a pot stirrer myself) & I love that she crashed D’s party. Kim seems to have a good sense of humor, those shoes though have to go.

        • Olivia says:

          I repeat: #@%&^**($#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Let the shoes take her along with them!

          • felony stupid says:

            I’m w/you Olivia 🙂

            Why would Kim want to crash the party of someone she finds so vile? Kim needs to go home wash her mouth out w/soap, put on some decent clothes and count her cash.

            • emt2 says:

              exactly. She has too much time and is too focused on Danielle. Let it alone, Kim. Find a stylist and some hobbies!

  2. Wall St Man says:

    Good Morning (mostly ladies,I think)
    Curious George is the most precious monkey WSL loves & when escaping from villains he swings through trees & always champions over all the “dumb dumbs” !

    Mayb by Mon WSL can tell u of a Zarrin interaction !I

    want to start a discussion about miss B WSL is not enamored w/her mouth & bathroom scenes . We figured it is because in NYC we have met many many talented & successful ladies. Granted most don’t have their own TV shows(but we do have friends who do) but that may b the central point. Miss B was an actress 1st.(So was Alex). Is Miss B completely PLAYING us. Is Jason too ? If they r I am sure Miss B will have a laugh along w/ us ultimately and the joke could b on Andy & his casting. Note the acting :

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Wall St Man- this is the 2nd time you’ve posted this.

      It has also been posted before you, on this very site.

      We get it.

      And don’t care.

    • nancy says:

      If you have time please e-mail me. Thank you. If not, truly understand you are busy. Have a great day and happy posting to all of us.

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      This is old news, we all know that Bethenny and Alex were actresses. They never hid that information.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And Alex in an interview said it was hard to do RHONY with her background in acting because of the reactions needed to the scene being set up. In real life you can walk away from people who are being rude, etc but not on the show. IMO no one is playing anyone with a motive/agenda except for Jill – which was exposed at the reunions show. Bethenny and Jason strike me as people who don’t take every little thing seriously – they have fun with their lives.

    • 201MaryF says:

      Dear Wall St. Man:

      If you really like Curious George, The Jewish Museum in NYC has a great exhibit about the creators of Curious George.

  3. nancy says:

    Thank you Lynn for the new blog. Hate when hate happens. You are great and thanks for all the time you put into this.

  4. boston02127 says:

    Lynn–Thanks for the new blog. 5 stars! 🙂

  5. Olivia says:

    I love how easily Jason and Bethenny handle Bryn. For a couple who admitted never having been around babies before they seem quite comfortable when holding her.

  6. boston02127 says:

    Listen to the end of this video.

    have a good day everyone 🙂

  7. kats2 says:

    Good Morning!!! Great Blog Lynn 5 stars from me!!! I love new blogs and about BGM. Kind of sad the last BGM blog, but like you I hope there will be a Season 2.

    I’m still curious about the apartment thing and I too was surprised that they rented, but I was also thinking while that was a nice apartment they could do better (specifically if the numbers on that website about her financial status are true).

    I also remembered (work with me on this one) some of Bethenny’s talking heads during NYC HW’s showed a background of a very nice kitchen. I remember thinking wow her new place is amazing. But that background in the talking heads does not match with her current apartment. Could it be that this apartment was selected for the filming of BGM and always considered temporary? Could there be another place they purchased and live in the city? Are there any business expense/tax advantages to doing it this way? I just think there might be more to story or logic behind why they just rented.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I meant to mention this in the blog as well, do you remember Bethenny and Jason talking about moving to Los Angeles while on their honeymoon? I’m not sure if it was in an episode or on a bonus clip on Bravotv.com but that could also be why they rented rather than purchasing, maybe they are also thinking about raising Bryn somewhere other than the middle of the city.

      Thanks Kats2 :)xo

      • kats2 says:

        You’re welcome!!! Yes, that could be it. I can’t remember where I heard that but I too did hear that comment about living in CA. That would make for a very interesting Season 2 theme.

  8. dumberries says:

    Thanks for the blog Lynn!

    I really enjoyed the Lost Footage episode. There was some funny stuff in there, and I too was surprised that the phone conversation between Mrs. Hoppy and B’s mom was 20 minutes long. Was under the impression that she’d just taken a message.

    As for the Salahi’s, just can’t muster up any interest in them – on or off screen. Nothing they do peaks my interest. One thing that did surprise me is that Tareq is only 38! I figured he was in his mid to late 50’s and that she’d married an older man. I guess he’s actually younger than she is.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I imagine a 20 minute conversation with a stranger (who happened to be your daughter-in-law’s absentee mother) was difficult for Jason’s mom. Beyond knowing she called and that Bethenny didn’t want her in her life is all we really need to know. The end of that conversation showed Jason’s mom supporting Bethenny in whatever decision indicated to me that it likely wasn’t a nice conversation.

      • dumberries says:

        I didn’t think we needed to know anything about it. Was just agreeing with Lynn that it was longer than I originally assumed from the NYC Reunion and the hospital scene. Nothing more.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          me to in agreement – meant to add to it that I liked Bethenny’s new family and their support of her on what has to be a very difficult topic.

          • Tootsie says:

            In one scene Bethenny is holding Bryn and wiping away her tears. What a boat load of emotions B. has gone through in one year. Heartbreak (Jill), happiness (Jason and business), shock (pregnancy), more shock (being bullied and insulted by Bombastic Kelly while hoping for a stress free getaway) run away business, preparing for a wedding then having a baby (early). In this quiet moment it seems like love and mourning. Trying to figure how her mother could treat her own child with such coldness and being totally self absorbed. Having this beautiful baby brought those hurtful questions to the forefront. Now the filming is over and the Hoppy family can get on with living and loving.

  9. Squirrels says:

    I think the apt was Bethenny’s old one. I noted the old sofa and different kitchen. Maybe I’m wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time.

    • kats2 says:

      I went back to check and it’s a new kitchen (not the old one and not the new one). But it could also be a sound stage or set of some kind (it looks that nice).

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        It may be their new kitchen as it sounded like they had to be out of the condo once the baby arrived.

  10. Squirrels says:

    My favorite scene in the so called “lost” footage? Jason introducing Bryn to friends like a prize fighter. Not just funny, but clever in his delivery. That was a memory made moment!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jason’s pride was so entertaining – they are joyful, they are thankful and they are having fun – it’s not all drama!

    • cusi77 says:

      That was one of my favorite scenes! The Real Skinnygirl! What a great couple J and B form. And with Bryn what a great family.

      To Mr. Wall st.: We all are “NEW” with every breath we take.
      Leave the past in the past. What is more important is what we have learned and to not repeat the same mistakes…. Like you Jill Zarin… deceitful, liar, Jill Zarin! If by now anybody in America has ever seen B’s breast, they most be blind or never watched BWM?

  11. boston02127 says:

    One more thing….Dina’s tweets (she’s so transparent)

    I’m sorry, I have to give my two cents on this. Why does it turn me off so much when the husbands want to be “stars” of the show?

    It’s called The Real HouseWIVES. Maybe cause mine wanted nothing to do w it and he turns me on? lol I don’t know….

    I just think the husbands should let the wives do there thing. NJ husbands let their wives play their parts & “play along” when their needed

    Lonely Dina tries so hard to defend her pretend girly husband. Too bad she’s so shallow and she married for money, she’d probably have a life if she wasn’t so greedy.

  12. Wall St Man says:

    OneMoreinBoston u r certainly in a bad mood. Usually when u double click u get a notice. Pardon my double post. I only asked for a discussion & haven’t seen my link b4. In fact when laughing about the fun of Lynn a nurse told us of this site & we were intrigued BUT unlike U open for & wanting discussion from others & we don’t Hate Bethanny but u r down rite cranky ! WSL says why r ur “knickers in such a twist”. Please enjoy this beautiful Sat. Morning & hopefully your health. Lyn loves u & we would like to !

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Pumpkin, I’m in a great mood!

      Interesting that because I call you out on stirring the pot you accuse me of being in a bad mood…Nope, I just don’t like you.

      YOUR panties are in a knot because I’m the only one responding to your lame posting.

      By the way, who the in God’s green earth is WSL? is that supposed to be you?

      Why are you referring to yourself in the royal way of “us” and “we”?

      Who is the nurse? Are you in a mental hospital on Wall Street?

    • Squirrels says:

      That’s the beauty of this site WSM. We agree. We disagree. I get to be bitchy here when the moment strikes. People roll their collective eyes, but allow me to let loose. Sometimes this site is like trying to herd a group of kittens. We all meow and hiss on occasion, but tomorrow? We get breakfast and begin again with a clean slate. Regardless of our individual antics, we remain “thick as thieves.”

  13. boston02127 says:

    Lol, I really have to jump in the shower and get going. My grandparents are on their way here. I keep finding things about Jill. Here’s another video of her. She is such a liar.


    • kats2 says:

      No contest, we have to be more fun than a visit from your Grandparents. . . unless they still give you treats and hugs and money and stuff. . . . we can’t compete with that. Have a great day!

    • kats2 says:

      Thanks for the video link Boston. This sums up why Bethenny, Ramona, Sonja (so far), Alex (this season specifically) are the only HW’s out of the whole franchise I can tolerate. They are not perfect and they own it. There is a lot I can’t stand but blatantly lying is at the top of my list, they are basically calling the people who watch the show stupid and assuming because they now need to backpedal and spew their made up PR story that we will believe it. I know what I watched, I know what I heard, and I know what I read in the blogs they wrote and all the information in the press that backed it all up. STFU Jill, the PR stuff is not working, try the truth, own it and all this BS would be over by now.

      • Tam5115 says:

        I couldn’t have said it better, Katz. I can’t speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself. I don’t want Jill to be perfect… that’s impossible. All I expect is for Jill to own what she has done, said, etc… If she would have done that, you’re right, this would have been over a long time ago.

        Jill spent a lot of time trashing Bethenny, certainly longer than the three weeks she claims she was angry with her. That failed big time. Now, she blames Alex. It’s so transparent. We all see the truth of what’s going on here.

        It isn’t a rumor, Jill is a mean girl and she’s still in high school. Just like Alex said.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      thanks for the links @Boston – enjoy your grandparents’ visit!

      • Olivia says:

        I am on my way to Boston too! And the weather is beautiful!

        • Squirrels says:

          Waaaaaaaaaaaaa! I miss Boston, except for the summer humidity.

          Ok, I don’t miss shoveling snow, either.

          San Diego, sunny and 72!!!


          • cusi77 says:

            I envy you Squirrels. I use to walk at least one mile a day… Las Vegas is now more than a 100!

            • Quincy IL says:

              I have been walking 7.4 miles a day …to the highway and back….. in heat and humidity. I keep telling myself that his is a spa holiday with a sauna.

          • b.l.r. says:

            I think you are sweet and kind and we share San Diego (county) as home. I read on your blog your outrage about someone diagnosing Milania with Down Syndrome.
            No. You are not crazy. However, her mother may have an IQ much lower than any Down Syndrome child or adult.
            You’re a good mama bear.

    • TLM says:

      Jill is delusional. Nothing Alex could have said would have made people think she was mean. Viewers watched what JILL did and said, and made up their own minds. It sounds like Jill has rewritten history in her own head to make herself look less bad.

      I always had to laugh every time I saw that conversation where Jill said to Luann, “I’d never go where I wasn’t welcome” re: Kelly going to St. John. Then she proceeds to tell Luann how she’s going to fly to St. John to surprise the other women, and is completely oblivious to the contradiction there.

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  15. MickeyMouth says:

    Nice blog Lynn. Dash and run – yard work awaits. Oh what fun you all have when I’m not here. 🙂 Have a good day everyone!

  16. Wall St Man says:

    Went to realitytea & found many supportive comments on Miss B’s movies.
    Again sorry if I hit a soft spot. I ment no malice but sorry OneMoreinBoston I wouldn’t want to be at a negotion around a conference table with u. I appreciated Lynn’s intervention! She is master of an awesome blog.
    WSL is Wall St Lady & she is very sick & I met u all by posting for her from her hospital room on a blog she loves. I pray to God she will b able to post again herself. I am enjoying this experience through WSL. Thanks for tolerating me.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Wall St Man:

      I apologize. I feel like a real POS.

      In my defense, if you look back at your postings, they are somewhat nonsensical.

      But now I get it, if you are in a hospital room, assuming some type of caretaker role, and typing on the fly, you are not going to be consulting Strunk and White’s Element of Writing Style.

      And you’re right, my nickname used to be “ la petite pitbull” when I went into negotiations-because I sink my teeth in and no matter how much you shake me, I will not let go. (let’s hope is wasn’t my appearance-LOL!)

      I was a lurker long before I was a poster and I don’t remember WSL, so maybe she’s been sick a long time? I hope she feels better soon, and please let her know that both of you are welcome here.

      Again, please accept my apologies as they are sincere, and please don’t let my past remarks deter either one of you from posting.

    • I hope WSL is feeling better soon and that whatever ails her is something she can recover well from.

      I actually enjoy having some men in the mixture here, it’s nice to hear another mans prerogative than just my husbands 🙂

    • ShyAsrai says:

      oh wow. best wishes and prayers sent WSL’s way!

  17. OneMoreinBoston says:

    Hey all- remember those bracelets that came out a few years ago that everyone was wearing?

    WWJD? “What Would Jesus Do?”

    I’m making myself a new one: WWLD? “What would Lynn Do?”

    I will be selling them alongside Kelly’s bird feathers at Zarin Fabrics.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      LMAO Dont forget Jill’s bed linens…augh! We’re going to have to listen to her yacking about her bed linens all next season if they pick her up again for another season…YUCK!

      • Squirrels says:

        I hate to tell Jill, but I get all my bed linens at Ross and TJMaxx. I also hate to tell her, regardless of the fact Ramona will soon be hawking her wares to those franchises, I’ll avoid them like the plague.

        • NormaJean says:

          I’m curious Squirrels, why will you avoid Ramona’s products like the plague?

          • Squirrels says:

            Ok. Here’s the deal. Ramona began her business in the reselling of clothing that ends up on the retail house cutting room floor. It ends up in places like Ross, TJMaxx, etc.

            I shop there, have no problem getting a deal. What I clearly said was, were I to find Jill’s sheets in the bedding section of either store, I’d run, not walk.

            The joke (in my own head) was Ramona will inadvertently be peddling Jill’s high class stuff. I thought it was funny. Then again, I’m a legend in my own mind.

            • NormaJean says:

              Oh, lol. My mistake, I thought you were saying that Ramona would be selling her own product lines (jewelry and skin care) to Ross and TJ Maxx and that you wouldn’t touch them with a ten foot pole!

              I agree with you, I wouldn’t buy anything of Jill’s no matter how cheap it was just on principal.

      • kats2 says:

        I heard one special feature of Jill’s new linen line will be scented sheets. Jill has been working with scientist to get the right scent which is a complex blend of money, latkes, dog shit, desperation, jealousy, and diet coke.

  18. cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Lynn. 5 Star Blog, like always, Thank you.

  19. cusi77 says:

    Ah! I forgot to give the name for Bethenny’s 2nd season:

    ” Bethenny having everything! “

    • Kokuanani says:

      Earlier this year I had suggested “Having It All” as a possible title, since she has

      a) successful business;
      b) handsome, sweet, successful husband;
      c) beautiful daughter.

      • cusi77 says:

        Kokuanani_ The reason I suggest this title -“Bethenny having everything” is because at the Reunion of RHONY Season 2 Jill Zarin said “Bethenny will have everything… but not at the same time”… How far from the truth a year later! Bethenny is a hard worker honest woman, who deserves to have EVERYTHING and at the same time!

  20. Squirrels says:


    Completely off topic, but I’ve been watching Whale Wars off an on for a while now. Don’t get me started as to the Admiral, a man who is willing to sacrifice lives but refuses to hire trained crew. Yeah, I know, it’s too expensive, let’s get help for free, but I surely would want a qualified SEA CREW to have my back while i pummel jack off whaling ships disguised as research.

    Yet, as i watched a dude shimmy the side to check damage, the freaking powers that be called him a “bosun”. WHAT THE FUCK? IT’S BOATSWAIN YOU TOOLS!

    Another reason I $%^&*(*&^%$#$%^ this show.


    End off topic rant. TY for your attention. GRRRRRR.

  21. ilovelynn says:

    great blog, lynn! I really appreciated it because I missed the lost footage episode. it is on again tomorrow am and I will be on the road. (nope, naturally this electronic challenged person that I am doesn’t know how to tivo either!) is there any place I can watch this episode? bravo? bethenny’s web site? help! how about “bethenny frankel: hoppy at last!” for next season’s title? btw, boston, love all the links to jz, her hair looks like sh*t . doesn’t she own a mirror? I can’t believe she doesn’t watch every video clip with her in it and doesn’t see how crappy she looks. GET A HAIRCUT! (then SHUT UP AND GO TO SLEEEEP!)

    • nancy says:

      OT. Jeezibel and Kukulet. Both of you seem to have some/vast knowledge of the book world. Kukulet seems you have a lot. I am past the 50 pluse range. Worked two jobs since the age of 17. No breaks. That’s called loyal to my work. Last job was for a book warehouse. Ya all would know the name. Got RIF’d. Was in Leadership a long time. Can you give me some info on how to go about being a book reviewer? Love to read. Sometimes have two books going. Just would like to do something that I like to do. Hell. even do it for free. That is how much I love to read. Thanks for your help. If anyone has ideas please post. Thanks

      • Nancy-I’ve worked in book warehouses before too! The smell of a book warehouse is in my top five scents. Do you read Publisher’s Weekly? A subscription is expensive but it can be had online via library card barcode.
        One way to receive tons of books to review is to have a talk radio show, even if its a podcast that you do yourself.
        I’m not sure where to exactly “sign-up”, as a book reviewer, but once you get on the list, you will need to reserve some space in that warehouse.
        Alana Chandler the reviewer at Amazon who got mixed-up in Amazon-gate with Jill Zarin explains that she was given a free copy of Jill’s book because of her Amazon reviewer status.
        I have a link to her reviews on http://www.nyhousewives.blogspot.com, you may want to see what she says about it?
        Also, if you go to any trade conventions, and I think the holiday season has some big ones coming-up soon, there are many reviewer’s copies to be had.
        Sorry to butt-in on the topic, but at one time I was on a list of book reviewers and all I remember is that I had to cry, “uncle”, because there were so many books coming-in that I could not get to all of them.
        For some reason, I think that PW had something to do with it, but it was a long time ago, pre-Amazon.

        • nancy says:

          Dear girl you are dating yourself. LOL I was with my Company when Amazon and Elliot Bay started up. Elliot Bay long gone. We actually supplied Amazon with their books. Yes, we were that good. Gosh those where the days. Trucks with Amazon product had to be there next day. No prob. Our motto. Customer Service.

      • nancy says:

        Thank you Housewives. I am just a person with time on my hands and love to read.Thought someone who wanted to work for free, would give me a chance as I love books. Get you about this first walk-in at the Dist. Center., and every time I entered (15 plus years) Love the smell, always will. Thanks again, I will look into your ideas.

    • Ellabean says:

      Hey illyn….Try the web site – hulu.com.

      You can watch quite a few shows/networks there -with minimal commercials. I think they only keep them for a week or less, howeveer, once the original show airs. For example, sometimes, I catch View episode I missed (yeah – its an awful show). Since the View is on daily – the show wil go on Hulu in about 12 hours after it orginally airs. Then it stays up for only about 5 days. So in essence, they have 5 days worth of shows on at any given time – then they drop off the site.

  22. kats2 says:

    Does anyone know how to shut off the “Who to follow” feature on Twitter? It keeps suggesting people I can’t stand and it never stops!

    • So far I don’t think you can shut it off but you can hit the “x” and they will not suggest that person again.

      • every time I go on twitter, I get so distracted by the features that I get lost.
        The other thing, “who you both follow”, is really interesting to me and I think it can be used to gain information.
        I’m kind of stalking someone who says that they are filming a “secret’ “spin-off” for Bravo, and the info. that Twitter gives-out can be used for hints & clues.

        • kats2 says:

          Thank you, me too! I’m so sick of them recommending the same stuff and having to click on that dam little x.

  23. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Off Topic: Patti Stanger has broken up with her fiance. I can’t say that I am surprised.

    pattistanger I just ended my relationship with Andy. It hit me really hard that I want kids in my life. You have to agree on the non-negotiables.
    about 1 hour ago via UberTwitter

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I watched her “show” once – she is a nasty creature inside and out! But I guess I have to give her props for realizing what is and is not negotiable in a relationship. Unlike – Rachel and Rodger, who I don’t even think they are actually having a conversation with each other half the time!

      • Quincy IL says:

        I thought there were posts here saying that Patti would do this and that the wedding planning was a shame. It seems we don’t need to pay a fortune teller, we have astute contributors.

      • b.l.r. says:

        She’s pretty much a Left Coast Jill Zarin: loud, obnoxious, know it all, unattractive and unsuccessful liar (as she claims to have a 90% (or more) success rate and has not had ONE success on her show yet). The reason I mention that she’s homely is because she finds it so important for her set-up women to be perfect “10’s”.
        Oh, did I mention that she’s a huge hypocrite? I’m sure she didn’t break up with him, but rather the opposite. I’d go to the bank on it.

        • suzyq says:

          I totally agree with you about ps being a west coast jz. They are close friends, allegedly! I think her show is a farce and have been watching it form day 1. I think as of the end of last season, she has made only 1 match from the series. Shs is NOT an attractive woman and her demeanor makes her even less so. IMO, he probably just woke up one morning and said, “yuck, I’m gone.”

    • Isn’t Patti hitting 50? I think if the desire for children was so great that she would have done something YEARS ago.

    • felony stupid says:

      Does that mean she returned that godawful heart shaped pink ‘diamond’ ring?

    • nancy says:

      Right. Like she was ever going to get married. No little bike under my BU….. rear end

    • emt2 says:

      Patti is so desperate and judgmental. Her engagement seemed false to me (a ploy to lure in business and viewers) and now she wants kids even though she didn’t seem to appreciate Bethenny’s ability to have children in her late 30s?

      Who cares, Patti? Any “cow” can get engaged, but not everyone is marriage material!

    • TLM says:

      Are you freaking kidding me??? Patti has been dating this guy 5 or 6 years, and this subject never came up??? Obviously there had to be some indication that Andy didn’t want kids, and she made the oldest mistake in the book, thinking she could change him. For someone in her position, it is ridiculous. Shouldn’t she have been more focused on this than on finding the perfect spot for her wedding?? Based on both her personal life AND her so-called matches on the show, I would never take advice from this woman. Ever.

  24. Wall St Man says:

    Thank you. Weeks ago WSL called B Zarrin at the store. She asked for him by name & said to mention to B Z that the last time they were together it was in her bedroom. He hoped on the phone & WSL was glad iLL didn’t pick up & show claws. B Z was reminded he personally hung curtains 20+ years ago. WSL did business w/B Z’s dad Harry & actually went to Queens for dinner at their 2br apartment to meet Mrs. Z ; both were like Bobby very humble & nice. Zarrin actually did 3 apartments for WSL as she LOVES a bargain & didn’t mind schlepping. WSL was happy BZ remembered her. They discussed when Harry died & how Bobby’s wealth didn’t come from material but that Harry bought the entire block the now store (then a dirty cement floor ware house. Bobby said it was fun being Mr ill Z & people stopped them where ever they went even in Europe ! WSL said ill’s daughter was nice. Some where along the line he hawked iLL’s book ! He told WSL he rents in SH & almost bought another place but changed his mind. B Z told WSL to come down & meet ill. (No thanks) BZ is probably 73. His dad died at 93. So he had a long life of abuse ahead of him. Oh thank goodness BZ seemed to forget but he definitely hit on her & that’s why he personally hung the curtains.
    Last about the same time on a Sunday Z Fabric which is next to the Bowery the store had homeless people, drunks & thugs hanging in front of the store. I guess iLl gets off her broom & shoos them away during the week

    • WoW, thanks for the interesting glimpse into B. Zarin’s past.
      I hope that Jill doesn’t manage to destroy everything he has maintained with her line of bedding.-or in other ways.
      I’m sure that B. Zarin has protected his company for his children’s future, because I’d sure hate to see Jill take everything when he’s gone like a lot of second wives do.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Jillz says they have a prenup. (I think that may also be “in the book?”)

        • Quincy IL says:

          Bobby isn’t as stupid as I thought he was if he had her sign a prenup. So… that’s why she is asking for all of the gifts. If a husband gives a gift to a wife, it’s her’s and not community property in many states. We were friends with a couple and she was having an affair that her husband knew nothing about. The couple would go shopping and she would ask him if the couch set was a gift, if the bedroom set was a gift. He was Iranian/American and he thought this was an American custom. I thought it was off, but she was from the State of Georgia, so I thought it was a Southern custom. Little did we know that it was a pre divorce custom. She really took that guy.

        • Quincy IL says:

          Lynn and everyone… We need to pack our bags and go home. Jill is not a mean girl. That is a rumor started by Alex.


    • MAMAZ says:

      Someone posted once that Bawby graduated from University of Florida (or Miami can’t remember which)in 1964. That would make him around 67 or 68. He looks pretty good for his age.
      Hope WSL is feeling better soon.

    • skogsstig says:

      Interesting, WSM! Glad you came back to the blog. 🙂
      Your story about Bobby kind of fits with the “picture” of him I’d made in my mind… I absolutely adore your last two sentences about the night scenery at Zarin Fabrics and iLL’s (that’s a funny take on her name) possible reaction. It would fit, though – I’m just remembering her horrified reaction to the trashbags outside the fashion show in Brooklyn.

  25. Squirrels says:

    I’m watching Whale Wars via my DVR. While I abhor the Admiral’s tactic of “I want crew who will be willing to die, vs. pay qualified sailors to protect and defend,” I damn near lost it when a caption showed up, calling a crew member a “BOSUN”!!!

    WTF? It’s BOATSWAIN you nimrods. You follow these people around like they are professionals (cough, sputter) and you have no clue as to ….. ugh.

    I’m cranky, were I not already post menopausal, blood would flow.

    Other than that? Every thing’s fine. 😀

    • MAMAZ says:

      Sorry Squirrels but it is pronounced Bosun. Lots of boating terms are prounced much different than they are spelled. Forecastle for instance is actually pronounced folksoul. I think it goes back to the days of uneducated crews or too many dialects or something.
      *ducking and running*

      • Squirrels says:

        I know what it sounds like. I’ve been sailing since the age of nine. I am also ex coast guard boatswain – search and rescue. What pissed me off is they ‘WROTE’ bosun on the screen.

        Get it right, or get off the pot.

        • Squirrels says:

          I sold my own Fantasia last summer. World cruiser, had already done 23K Nautical miles. I sailed her up and down the Baja coast before I let her go. There are only perhaps 12 Fantasias left in the world.

          Just in case you think I’m a flake.

          • Squirrels says:

            I suspect I have lived more in sailing than you will ever hope to know. I’ve sailed in hurricane tail winds. Have you?

            I realize I’m being pissy, but do not push my buttons. I know what I know. Unless and until you prove otherwise via personal experience, don’t diss me under the guise of correction. I have never been anything but honest here and don’t plan to change that anytime soon. I have no high horse to ride here. I simply refuse to be insulted.

            • NormaJean says:

              Sorry Squirrels but I did not see Mamaz response as insulting you. You’re initial post did not say that they wrote “Bosun” instead of “Boatswain”, you only referred to the pronunciation. You, however, are being rude and insulting.

            • KirksvilleMo says:

              Squirrels you get more interesting by the day!I’ve only been sailing twice and it was years ago but it was the most freeing feeling I’ve ever had!How fortunate for you to have lived all of that!
              BTW,what do we post menopausal women have to blame our pissy moods on?For years we have PMS and then we are menopausal and then what?lol
              I usually blame my bad moods on too many years of putting up with too much shit!

              • Squirrels says:

                Yatzee. I admit to being my own worst enemy at times. Today may be one of those days. My best friend just keeps calling my son Tag. His name is Tad. I’m in a WTF mode.

              • NormaJean says:

                Squirrels, my apologies, I stand corrected. I still don’t think you were being insulted but obviously you do. I’ll leave you to your bad mood and not engage further.

              • Squirrels says:

                Norma. If you care to engage in what is none of your concern, may I suggest next time read twice before you post.

                Personally, I like Mamaz. Have no qualms. I suspect she’ll forgive me for ranting…. eventually.

            • Quincy IL says:

              My ocean sailing has been on boats out of the harbor in New Port, Rhode Island, where young people take care of the sails and wear no shoes. LOL. I love taking that trip every year.

              • Squirrels says:

                Shoes? They get in the way, too easy to trip up on. lol. Rhode Island is one place I’ve not yet sailed. But my grandmother lived on the bay in a tiny cottage. So many fond memories, including the roller coaster at Crescent Park. Dad used to work there as a teen.

  26. I’m still catching-up on reading everyone’s blogs from last week’s episode of RHONJ, but I just re-noticed something strange about the cruise ship, and figured I’d remark about it.
    I don’t speak Spanish very well, but I do know what the red circle with a slash through it means.
    And when that sign says, “No Fumar”, I’m pretty sure that it means “No smoking”.
    So why did the camera make sure to show us that Joe & Chris were at a place on the ship called, “Cigar Bar something or other”?

  27. anniieee says:

    Great blog, Lynn. Schools starts Monday for teachers so maybe I will be able to do a little more than lurk, and hit and run. Miss everyone and hope you have a great weekend!!

  28. And Lynn-you really have me wondering about the person who doesn’t post.
    I’m missing a few people that I haven’t seen here lately & I was hoping maybe they’d come back when school starts.
    I’m sure that those salami people have all kinds of excuses and explanations for their problems, but for me the kicker was that the woman had the nerve to go to great lengths to pretend that she was a professional cheerleader, and she got called on and never addressed.
    The winery problem is just one of many problems with those people, including the party-crashing incident.
    There is a long list of stories with those characters, and I think the only redeeming thing about them is that they are not embarrassing their children with their behavior, because as far as I can tell they don’t have any.

  29. WindyCityWondering says:

    Just read Teresa’s “Cow Bellows” blog again – the comments are alarming. I get that you want to be positive and supportive of your favorite housewife, but we are talking a DUI here – that is beyond serious and to make light of it, make excuses for it or call it something else is WRONG!
    Joe wasn’t charged with causing an accident because he fell asleep at the wheel – alcohol was involved and likely high speeds – no one kills four innocent trees and a pole and totals a vehicle, walks away and starts drinking before the police arrive. I hope his community service holds up and I sincerely hope they make him get up close and personal with those families who lost a love one due to drunk driving because until he sees it he won’t change.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      With Juicy’s evident long driving record of license suspensions & violations, he had no idea the cops would check to see if he’d been drinking after an accident? Who believes that? Especially when they smelled alcohol on his breath, as the cops reported.

      And T’s claim that Juicy only drank a “couple of shots” after the accident to “calm his nerves” is ridiculous. Only two shots resulted in a 0.11 by the time his blood was drawn at the hospital? Not in someone his size.

      And contrary to what T claims, not only was Juicy evidently charged after the accident, he also was turned over to the custody of Clifton cops due to outstanding warrants who held him until he posted bond. According to published reports right after the accident that cited the police who charged him.

      Teresa’s not only shall we say “logically challenged,” she & her PR folks evidently think everyone else is too. Just like when she dismissed reports of their filing for bankruptcy as “rumors” when the public court filings were not only cited but also posted online.

      • IMJ says:

        There is no accountability for anything any of them does (accept Danielle). Ashley and her assault, Joe and his drunk driving. I swear she would still be making excuses if he horribly injured someone. Thats one of the reasons I really despise Teresa, shes has a paper thin excuse for every damn thing. If all else fails, then blame Danielle. Your 40 years old, grow up.

  30. Dawn says:

    There is a statement that ‘s been made several times about the fact that Caroline watched Teresa’s children because the grandchildren needed a break.

    I am genuinely perplexed by this train of thought. I have traveled several times with grandparents and it was a wonderful experience. We didn’t bring the grandparents along as caretakers. When we went sightseeing or out to a restaurant, it was wonderful to have them there but the grandparents were able to enjoy time in afternoon or evening alone. We knew and understood that they weren’t accustomed to the fast pace at which children travel and the cacophony that accompanies it. When the grandparents needed a much needed break, as the parents, WE provided it!

    I said it previously and I will say it again, I would never have put my friend in the position of having to say yes or no to watching my children.

    If your parents needed a break, YOU were the one that should have provided it!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      So true – a considerate parent has to take into consideration the needs of the young and the needs of the old! If either group needs a break then YOU need to be responsible for seeing that happens even if it means you don’t get to do everything you want to do when you want to do it! Your children are your responsibility period – don’t palm them off on your parents or your friends. We have had many successful, enjoyable and memorable vacations with grandparents and young children together because being together was the best part.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        All these women change their stories to back each other up which basically makes them all liars and hard to watch! Then they try to make it all good in their blogs and it only makes them come off as bigger liars.

      • TLM says:

        Any major cruise ship these days has childcare services available, and Joe and Teresa should have paid for that. Their dumping the kids on Caroline and Albert — who aren’t even the kids’ grandparents — just so they could screw (and God forbid, have a 5th kid) just shows their cheapness and self-centeredness.

    • kats2 says:

      Until Caroline uses her dick to stand up against the family and tell the truth in her blogs about what she was really feeling vs. the BS she spews every week in her blogs (Family = the inner circle of trash that she always protects and defends no matter what) I could careless if the kids pushed her off the ship while she was watching them. So take that. . .

      • klmh says:

        Yea, she needs to turn against her family and friends and bad mouth them to satisfy us, her loyal fans, with some great gossip and speculation.
        Yea, thats the ticket!

        • kats2 says:

          Klmh – what are you talking about? Who said turn on them and bad mouth them? The truth would nice for a change, in her talking head she was pissed about baby sitting and in her blog she made up excuses.

          • klmh says:

            The truth concerning these people, the information on this site alone, would not make their personal relationships blossom and would certainly strain their relationships.
            If you had a family/friends like this and you loved them, would you tell the world about their faults? I don’t think so…
            And remember what Caroline’s motto is: thick as thieves. That says it all. Protect those in our “family” from damage.

            • kats2 says:

              Makes no sense to me, moving on. We will agree to disagree.

            • Squirrels says:

              Caroline seems to want it both ways. Thick as thieves, complain about baby sitting, kidney stones (I know I’d be pissy), and then comes full circle to thick as thieves again.

              I think the end result is she loses credibility.


        • I didn’t take Kat’s post to infer that Caroline should indulge any of us with bullshit and lies. Sometimes to show you really care about someone and you beleive they really care about you, you should have the courage to say ‘No, you are wrong’.

          Instead we are treated to glaring contradictions and pathetic attempts to rationalize and excuse actions that are undefended. e.g. ‘Ashley was wrong to attack Danielle BUT she thought she was defending her mother’ ect, ect.

          Caroline clearly said in her interviews that she was asked to watch Teresa’s kids and made it clear that she resented it yet Teresa claims in her blog that Caroline volunteered.

          Caroline running to the defense of everyone and anyone- her own family included that will throw her under the bus is a ticket that has been punched to many times.

    • Tam5115 says:

      I am a fairly new grandma, my GD is four. I have her once a week, overnight. I love my grandbaby with all my heart.

      BUT… I raised my child. I was with her 99% of her life and I’m not kidding. I love my grandchild but I do not wish to raise her. This is our time now to relax and be with each other without that responsibility. It is not our parent’s responsibility to raise our children, it is ours. Teresa needs to get a damn clue.

  31. Dawn says:

    Sorry, my post should have stated that the grandparents, not grandchildren needed a break. I wish there was a way to correct grammar and spelling errors on the site.

    • felony stupid says:

      Couldn’t agree with you more Dawn. How utterly selfish to bring elderly grandparents as built in non-paid help. Parents should be responsible for their own young children. Going by what we saw, the adult parents spent the majority of the evenings w/o their kids so someone, most likely the grandparents, were back in the cabin with those kids.

      IMO…in T’s case, I’m beginning to suspect that her parents are the primary caretakers of these children at home (along w/cooking and cleaning the $5m mansion) so acting as such on the ship was prob nothing new to them. Doesn’t it kinda seem like T spends her time w/the girls playing dress up and relatively little time being an actual mom? Shades of Kelly…

      IDK but if I’m a full time mom with 4 young girls the last thing I’m thinking about 24/7 is putting bows in their hair or dressing them up matchy matchy ALL THE TIME. I’m spending the majority of my time breaking up fights or passing out snacks or on playdates or helping with coloring, etc. Maybe it’s the editing but we don’t see a lot of parenting from her…just her playing w/living dolls.

      Wow. I kinda wondered off there. Back in time for winetime!

  32. Wall St Man says:


  33. So I’m wasting time, and I’m looking for stories about the HW, and I came-across this interesting take on Teresa;
    “Teresa Giudice marries her House”
    The writer compiles some of Teresa’s statements about her love of her home & the things in it, and in hindsight, some of the quotes are really shocking.
    Teresa says about some item or another, “I couldn’t live without it.”
    I hope she was exaggerating or just being dramatic or something.
    I’ve seen famous people being persecuted as examples before, but I don’t ever remember seeing anyone celebrity or other who had the contents of their home taken while they were living in it.
    Car repo-yeah, that’s common, but I can not remember ever hearing about someone having their beds, oven, their children’s beds, …..

  34. Laura aka Just done says:

    Lynn – completely OT, but I wanted to tell you I have a whole new respect for you. You handle this blog with grace and sophistication, yet you are never swayed by the people who come here to bad mouth you. I applaud you. I have to say, after the few negative comments I received, I don’t know how you do it.

    Thanks for giving all of us the forum to agree, respectfully disagree, or just vent when we need to. You are the best!


    • Squirrels says:

      Laura, if they are available, please let me know the bidding price of those wine glasses the Giudice/Laurita folk were drinking from during their I didn’t drink conversation. They were cool.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        Squirrels – I think that’s part of the lot that has the gucci glasses in it. I’ll let you know.

      • kats2 says:

        They are so big you could use them as a fish bowl!

        And Squirrels WTF would you use to cleam them to make sure every time you took a sip you weren’t getting more than what you paid for???

        • Squirrels says:

          LOL. I know. I’m just being nostalgic. Making memories. Sad part is, I’ve broken more water goblets, wine glasses, specialty vials than I wish to acknowledge. These would probably be no exception.

          Still….. I’d toast/roast her every time I shared them.

          • kats2 says:

            How funny would it be if each time you used them you sent her a tweet or message telling her about it.

            Hey Chewy “Just set my Thanksgiving day table with your wine glasses, they look great”

            Hey Chewy “Having a drink and using your wine glasses”

            Hey Chewy “Did you put them in the dish washer or wash them by hand”

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Im thinking Teresa did her fair share of breaking them too – usually an auction will say 5 of 6 in a set, but all glassware seems lumped together in one lot…..

        • Sha2000 says:

          Lol they are big this season:


          Next season it might be this size:

    • Quincy IL says:

      Laura, it’s called “Class.”

    • kats2 says:

      Oh Laura stop sucking up (kidding) 🙂 It’s almost happy hour!!!! What are we drinking this evening???

  35. Squirrels says:

    It doesn’t get much funnier than this….


    Run Ginger, Run!

  36. nancy says:

    That it is Quincy. Lynn did not have to e-mail back about wanting her to e-mail me. But, she did. Number 1 in my book. Thanks , as always, Lynn.

  37. kats2 says:

    OT – is anyone watching or following Big Brother, I have some big news if you’re interested.

    • Squirrels says:

      Tell… tell… I’ll share my KitKat with you!

      • Quincy IL says:

        I don’t watch BB and I want the news. LOL.

      • kats2 says:

        Brendan is HOH and Ragan and Lane were nominated and Ragan won the Veto today but the big surprise is that Rachel who was just evicted is back in the house for 24 hours. They think Brendan opened another pandora’s box and she got to come back in but he is locked up (they don’t know where he is). But she has 24 hours in the hourse to talk to the houseguest. She’s not back in the game.

        • felony stupid says:

          Did they say what the reasoning is behind this? Is Rachel going to be able to tell Brenden anything she find out from talking to people for 24 hrs? Does she (or anyone else) know that she is out after 24 hrs or do they all think she is back?

          • kats2 says:

            So far no one knows if part of the pandora’s box is that she comes back for 24 hours and he leaves for 24 hours (he’s no where to be found). Or she gets to ask each hourse guest a question and once she’s done she Brendin comes back and she can only share that information with him.

            The bad part is for any Britney fans, Britney left Rachel a bitchy good bye message and Rachel called her on it. I don’t think that’s fair.

            • Sha2000 says:

              I hope he puts Matt & his childish PJ’s up for eviction; both need to go!

            • felony stupid says:

              My stupid Tivo cut out and I only got the first 15 mins of the Rachel elimination episode so I didn’t get to see Brit’s goodbye video.

              You’re right…totally unfair that anyone has to defend his/herself to an ousted HG before jury time. If this had happened to Rachel and she was getting attached inside the house for her super obnoxious “that’s what you get for trying to get between me and my man” goodbye msgs she would be in tears screaming “unfair!”

              Thanks for the update kats!

    • felony stupid says:

      Yup…do tell.

  38. klmh says:

    I noticed many not being able to find BF Skinny girl Margarita. Here is a link to hopefully help you find it:


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      thanks @klmh – as suspected I can get it online only. I have made them from B’s recipe so someday I want to taste the bottled version.

      • Sha2000 says:

        If you don’t want to call the distributor I can tell you I got mine at ABC a few weeks back; I don’t know if there is a location wherever you are you but you can check:


        Also didn’t we see Bethenny signing bottles at Costco? I would check there too. I Haven’t opened mine yet, I’m assuming because of the mix in it it will need to stay in the fridge once opened. Anyone know?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          It should say on the bottle if you need to keep in the fridge after opening it. Does anyone know if it is available in the midwest yet?
          The recipe is so easy, even Kelly could make them! I made some for a neighborhood cookout last week and it was the guys who went nuts over them! lol We had to call them Skinnyguy Margaritas….

          • Laura aka Just done says:

            It doesn’t say it on the bottle, but I would keep it in the fridge anyway, just in case. Wouldn’t want to ruin that!

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              seriously, there shouldn’t be any left in the bottle to have to go in the fridge! lol

    • Tam5115 says:

      Too funny. I’m in northern WI and asked for a 25 mile radius. All 5 locations that came back were in NY or NJ.

      • Toga says:

        Long-time lurker, first time poster. LOVE this blog and all the comments!!

        Don’t trust that locater for Skinnygirl Margs. I found it at a liquor store in west central Minnesota, but when I put in my zip code and 50 miles, it only showed NY locations.

        I hate Jill Zarin.

  39. klmh says:

    Also, an interesting article from the really old housewives of Manatee country concerning T. Giudice’s previous homes. She has a wonderful fun things too on her site, including a fabulous meatloaf recipe using oats instead of bread! Its a favorite in my family.


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sundays are family dinner night here. Funny, meatloaf came up as a possible candidate today (but I refuse to use the oven in the summer and haven’t tried to do a meatloaf on the grill). Wow, I have never put bread in mine! So now I learn that you can put oats in one as well! I have put panko breadcrumbs in when I leave out minced veggies. I love to learn new ways to make family favorites – thanks!

      • I can’t remember ever making meatloaf and not putting at least one slice of bread in it.-But my favorite version is Cuban-style.
        They form the loaf around a hard-boiled egg, roll it in bread-crumbs, and then fry it on the outside.
        I don’t even like hard-boiled eggs, but I love the way it looks when sliced, and the crunchy-coating is really good.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          how cool! is it fried in a deep fryer or a pan?

          • Well, my Cuban friend who made it for me used a black cast-iron pan & used olive-oil, but I cannot remember if she used a lot or deep-fried. I’m tending to think not too much.
            Also, with that method, I cannot remember if it was baked or not? Also, she made two smaller loaves and did not put shape it in a pan. She shaped the loaves around the egg with her hands.
            I might have to call and ask.

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              I think you would fry it to crisp the outside and then bake it unless they are very small loaves (hamburger size?). I have layered roasted red peppers inside for that cool slice effect.

              • jezzibel says:

                you can make meatloaf with bread crumbs???…..who knew. I love my meatloaf with katchup…so good

        • Tam5115 says:

          I make mine with a full sleeve of saltine crackers. Put those in a freezer bag and go after it with a hammer. LOL. Ketchup, raw egg, salt and pepper are a must too. Another good thing is to pour a can of pork and beans on the top before you bake.

          • sweet pea says:

            I don’t know if anyone is still on this page, but I like to cube chedder cheese and mix with saltines, raw egg, garlic salt, and tomatoe sauce. The cheese melt while baking. Yum. I also occassionally cube raw potatoe and mix in. Another trick I have (to make sure it cooks completely thru) is to poke the meatloaf to make holes in it. That way it is evenly done.

  40. Sorry it I missed this in the TOP Chef blog, but things move so quickly around here sometimes it’s hard to keep up.

    Did anyone catch Tom’s blog? I was kind of annoyed with it- if he said one more time that Alex was on a winning team and therefore not up for elimination I think I would have spammed his blog (not that Bravo allows me to post there).

    I also found it very suspect that now after weeks of uncertainly- and his statement that the producers combed through every moment of tape to try to find out what happened to the pea puree that only now there are contestants coming forth to say they did see him make one? I smell some bullshit.

    The red team broke the rules plane and simple- Alex simply did not make a dish. Didn’t the Red team have a pea puree, one would think he could be trusted with this small task given that his pea puree is supposedly to die for.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kenny sealed his own fate by bashing Alex….the judging seems to shift week to week and it is frustrating! Restaurant wars means team work but it also means you have to do a dish…and if you didn’t do one (Alex) you should be honest about it!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      I think the others on Alex’s team said Alex “conceptualized” the dishes and although he didn’t actually make the dishes, that was enough to meet the requirements evidently.

      Even the claim that Alex thought up the dishes seems a stretch to me. Obvious his team mates didn’t want him to do anything but stay out of the kitchen and away from the food. Alex was so familiar with “his” lamb dish that he first told the judges it was pork.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      On the pea puree saga, the night before Alex mentioned that he had a “thing with peas,” so he was working with peas before the others told him of Ed’s puree. It may have been what decided Alex on going the puree route. Since Alex’s fish was perfectly cooked for that challenge, a seemingly simple task that so many chefs on the show no matter how good can fail at, it seems quite possible that Alex also was able to turn out a good pea puree.

      Alex doesn’t come across as a likable fellow and he’s not the most skilled chef. But that in itself doesn’t mean he risked exposure and took someone else’s dish out of a cooler and used it. Ed himself apparently had no idea what happened. Despite the others’ suspicions and grumblings, none of the chefs who shared the kitchen with Alex apparently saw anything untoward or they would have openly accused him.

      • Noelle says:

        I agree. The fact that Alex won the challenge, for his fish, led me to believe he could indeed whip up an equally fantastic pea puree. (I’m no fan of Alex, he evidently has some skills though.) You don’t win a challenge accidentally.

        I hated to see Kenny go, but understood why he was told to “pack his knives…” His dishes were the worst(according to the judges) and instead of him claiming to be the “beast” in the kitchen, his time would’ve been better spent turning out awesome dishes.

  41. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Hey Squirrels, are you running the Americas Finest City half marathon/5K run tomorrow? I waited too late to sign up for the 1/2 marathon so I’m running the 5k instead. I forget the name of the other San Diego resident who posts on here.

  42. cusi77 says:

    Good afternoon Lynn! Hello to everybody!

    Since yesterday I have been holding my comments about the DC wives.

    Cat: Unintelligent and rude woman – reason for which she does not have filter nor manners. Cat, be thankful for the land you have your feet in, stop criticizing Americans, thank to The Americans you are not speaking German, you twit!

    Stacey: I do not understand the reason to be confusing Cat misbehavior for racist… that gal is just plain rude. Hey! Barak Obama is The President of this Great Nation!

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      @Cusi “thank to The Americans you are not speaking German, you twit!” I laughed out loud when I read that. Couldn’t have said it any better myself. Bravo! No pun inteded 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Like your read of Cat – she is a poser and probably has low self-esteem. She looks down at Americans and should go back to UK if she feels that way. For all her snobby ways, I think the other wives intimidate her and she is not comfortable around them.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      As for Stacie – I don’t think she is sweet and messing with Cat for her rude behavior by making her uncomfortable at her auntie’s house was mean on all kind of levels!

      • cusi77 says:

        I agree Windy… I felt for her. What amazes me is there is no reason to believe it was racism intended…

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I’m thinking that racism angle is done by editing from Bravo.

          • jezzibel says:

            I agree..I sat through the rerun to see if my initial feelings were off base….but I’m sorry IDK Cat is a racist..just incredibly rude and bad mannered

  43. Jen says:

    Sorry. If already mentioned but Star magazine has an article that Joe was seen out with a girl named Nicole for dinner recently – like a date

  44. boston02127 says:

    Well……(deep breath), looks like Kelly proved us wrong (eye roll). Looks like she’s started some type of lemonade stand charity. Her tweets:

    For any mean tweeters, tweet mean and give $1 to ur fav charity. Form of crowd funding. Tweetmean and give back!

    @LilyAnnLucy here’s our first mean tweeter, get really mean and donate $1 to ur fav charity. Vent it out, give back

    @jennifersale i love that ‘swear jar’ idea. anytime anyone mean tweets, they give $1 to their fav charity. get nasty, and give

    @bronzebeau we got another meantweet. Not really mean enough, but love ur donation. What’s ur charity?

    K, I’ll stop at that one because she goes on and on about her “new” stupid “tweet mean” charity.

    I’ll stop at with that last tweet. She goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on. Everyday I check her tweets and foolishly think to myself “maybe this will be the day she’s smart and all her b/s was a joke”. But nooooo, she’s still dumb today.

    • cusi77 says:

      Boston_ You are so funny! There is no hope for Kiki…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      ah Kelly is just being charitable!

    • Noelle says:

      I just can’t take her incoherent rants and spin offs. What a flipping idiot!

      Wow, she so needs to go away already…What the hell was Bravo thinking…incorporating this mess into the mix. RHNY was my fav @one time..no longer.

    • She tweeted me and told me to give a dollar but then provided me with an @ addy that didn’t work.

      • Noelle says:

        Kelly is a total tool and douche to boot! *bangs head*

        • jennifer says:

          Wait, how does it help charity for her to ask people to send $1 when they “mean” tweet her? Are plp actually sending dollars? Is she? I just don’t get it unless she is personally donating $1 for every tweet how can she claim she is donating to charity….it’s her “haters” if anyone…..

          This POs me, like we’re responsible for her charity- she so rich she should donate.

  45. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Squirrels, I’ll print out your avatar and carry it in my fannypack so you’ll run the race vicariously ;-). Team “I hate Jill Zarin” San Diego chapter! LOL

  46. alisonand says:

    I just want to say thank you to all who have put a smile on my face with your witty comments, snarky comebacks and overall truths about who these “housewives” vs who they try to pretend to be.

    I’ve not been a vocal participant until now but let me say, I thank you Lynn for such a fun forum!

    Do I hear whisperings of TURTLE TIME!!!!

    And I absolutely, positively hate jill zarin and everything she stands for, smells of and ultimately wants to be!

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Welcome Alison!

    • Noelle says:

      Greetings! Put your feet up Ali, I’m passing Laura a SKM(with salt 😉 )to pass your way to say WELCOME! Cheers!

      • alisonand says:

        Thanks to all of you!!!
        Thanks so very much for the warmest of welcomes…
        If anyone knows, I’m sure they care…here’s to you you Abbey Lincoln! I raise my chardonnay in the honor of feminne grace!

        (later I’ll lay into the housewives grrrrrr)

  47. alisonand says:


    housewives ARE and who…

    turtle time yeah!

  48. OneMoreinBoston says:

    So here is a link that I found on another blog. It’s pretty long, but WOW pretty damning for Bravo.

    The producers of this little short film are stating that Bravo set the whole White House crashing scene up and that the Salahis went along for the ride because they were desperate for $$$.

    So they are alleging that its much more than just the Salahis-Instead Bravo basically engineered the whole thing.

    They also report that Bravo asked the Black National Caucus for free tickets for their event for “cast members” but that they were turned down.


    Lots of interviews with stiffed vendors, hairstylists, and makeup artists.

    By the way, they showed Tareq giving up his Patek Phillipe watch to pay an overdue lawn care bill. It was later proved to be a fake, and the poor lawn care guy is still out his money.

    Makes me want to write my senator

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      who made this video? why are they going after Bravo?

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        They’re going after Bravo because they believe that Bravo engineered the “greatest While House security breach of all time” (their words) as a huge publicity stunt for the RWODC, and they insinuate that Bravo should be investigated along with the Salahi’s.

        there are credits at the end- I didn’t catch them

        • Squirrels says:

          Holy Bat Shit! Them’s fightin’ woids. Bravo refused to respond to calls. I can only wonder what they will do now. This video is going to go viral very quickly.

          Pass the popcorn please.

          • IMJ says:

            Oh my! (im clutching my pearls as we speak)

            • Anitabee says:


              All we need now is too see “Fuck-Face” Andy Cohen in front of a hearing taking the 5th.

              Or worse — lying like Danielle Or Dina Or Teresa Or Juicy Joe Or Gretchen Or Tamara Or Nenee Or Kim Or Sheree Or Cat Or Michaele Or Jill Or Kelly Or …

    • Noelle says:

      I have read about this also, that Bravo was behind this. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised, seems as though Bravo sold their soul to the highest bidder.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I recall some whispering about that connection awhile back – didn’t think to much of it at the time. someone definately has an ax to grind. maybe a vendor that got stift on their bill….calling out the salahis and Bravo (cause they have deep pockets)….

    • Blue Sky says:

      Bravo should pay for the costs of the Congressional hearings, that we as taxpayers were forced to bear. This is exactly why I am boycotting watching the DC housewives. Bravo went too far. In fact, I am close to banning Bravo – no more Bravo!!! Am sick of your stunts. There was a former post by someone, sorry don’t recall their name, but when her mother was in a restaurant & OJ Simpson came in, the mother & daughter walked out, refusing to eat in the same place as OJ. That is exactly how I feel about Bravo. As long as you are keeping the slimy salahis on tv, I will not watch. Besides, now that Bethenny’s show is over, what is there to watch on Bravo? All of their shows have become sleazy (NJ housewives), boring (Rachael Zoe) or just too much (Flipping Out used to be amusing, but Jeff has become just too abusive!). Bethenny should move to a better network, IMO!!

  49. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    This picture of Jill with the added caption is funny. It was taken today at a book signing in the East Hampton Library.


  50. Just popping in to say that they ran out of red roses because of the volcano eruption in Iceland that all but killed transatlantic trade for several weeks.

  51. Lovebeth says:

    did you guys see the picture of baby bryn? she is so pretty looks like Jason and bethenny looks gorgeous as well.


  52. kats2 says:

    BB Update – Rachel and Ragan got into a huge fight, Ragan verbally smacked Rachel and it got pretty interesting. Names were called, fur was flying, but they ended up making up and so that so far is as exciting as this has gotten with this whole experiment of having Rachel back in da house for 24 hours.

  53. WindyCityWondering says:

    So is Jill’s fabulous life so boring that she is peddling her book coast to coast now – first shopping in LA with her daughter and now at the E Hampton Library sidewalk sale?? Face it Jill – NO ONE WANTS THAT STUPID BOOK!

  54. nancy says:

    yes Kats2 RT is a great place to brush up on all that is happening. Learned the hard way about posting. Said nothing nasty/snarky etc and got slammed, only because I was a newby. Most all were nice last nite. But wow this a.m. was way out there. Never again will I post. Told Lynn this was a lesson learned this A.M. For now please stay away if you choose to do so. Nite all. Busy day with friends and their garage sale. Plus it was so hot here. Good thing for A/C Nite see ya all tomorrow.

    • kats2 says:

      What? Stay away from where?

      • nancy says:

        go alittle up-thread. We are talking about Reality Tea. they slam Lynn and us. Please choose to go where you want. Most here will not go to Reality Tea, Just asking for a cooling off period. Lynn is a friend and their comment piss me off. thank Kats2. Thank you ,


        rt nite all


    • kats2 says:

      Nancy – I don’t know if you were suggesting I stay away from that site or this site, but I don’t need anyone telling me what site I can go to. Maybe I’m not getting what you’re talking about, but I don’t think anyone here should be telling anyone what to do. Specifically when I said I took a look, I didn’t post or comment. I don’t get it.

      • Anitabee says:

        Hi Kats:

        I think I get it. I believe that Nancy is in agreement with you about Reality Tea. That it is a great place for Reality TV information.

        Yet I think Nancy got slammed for posting on the Reality TV site from their regular posters. So I think she was trying to say post at your own risk.

        I don’t think Nancy directed anything towards you but was trying to give us a warning.

        Keep posting Kats2. I love reading your posts.

      • sweet pea says:

        @ kats2 re: Nancy ~ I think she said – ” Please choose to go where you want. ” I normally love this site but everyone has been in a really pissy mood today. Looking out my window, I know it’s not a full moon. Oh well, it’s hot weather and I guess I’m starting to get pissy too. I just depise the snarking at each other. So there.

    • Squirrels says:

      nancy… You didn’t piss me off. If you had, you’d hear it. I’m not innocent, nor am I beyond reproach.

      Cool Beans to Kats2. Rock on sister! Bitches unite!

      Someone put me to bed. My mouth is much more adventurous than my body.

    • nancy says:

      Are there 2 Kats here? No lack of worries but confused here? First you you are skinf abou

      rt when ther MEANT NO LOGICE. tHEN YOU Sy

      • nancy says:

        please delete. My fingers can not count. Way too tired, nu-thread fot Kat2. My spelling was so geat. LOL Wow need a life, Thinking of all.

  55. nancy says:

    rt nite all


  56. Noelle says:

    @Wall Street Man,

    So sorry and sad to hear about WSL. I’ll keep you both in my thoughts.
    Many blessings sent your way. 🙂

  57. nancy says:

    just looking out for lynn I no longer post there. Thank you all. Most bad crap aboutLynn may have been delete. RT likes Lynn, I think. anywhow thanks again for all comments.

    • Anitabee says:

      Thanks Nancy. I agree with you. Reality Tea is an informative site.

      I did notice a drop in overall comments after Reality Tea banned the troll off the site.

  58. nancy says:


  59. Squirrels says:

    Jesus. If we ever needed a new thread…..

    • Anitabee says:

      How about a new topic:


      Might explain why she was so upset with Bethenny. Great Guy and Beautiful Baby???

      • LynnNChicago says:

        I predicted this with Stanger, I don’t believe that she ever really had a true relationship with this guy, after all these years, NOW she just finds out that he doesn’t want kids? please! She only got engaged because everyone was giving her a hard time about being single and a matchmaker who couldn’t even find a man for herself. All those “fake” wedding plans last season on her show were just that, FAKE! They never set a date, because they never intended to get married, I wouldn’t be surprised if Bravo paid this guy to pretend that he was Stanger’s b/f then paid him more to act as a fiance’. Fake and Fraud, Just like Stanger!

        • Yeah, Lynn did see this one coming…..seriously, I just don’t get this woman.
          I’m not even 49 yet, and I know that everyone is different, but I’m already about half-way through menopause.
          You just don’t wait ’till menopause to have children.
          I’d guess that Stranger is either entirely or somewhat menopausal herself.
          I know that some woman “forget” to have children. (yes-they do, and it is quite a shock)..
          And some women stay on birth-control or the pill for so long that they don’t even realize that things have changed.
          Really they should probably put that as a black-box waring or side-effect on birth control?
          Even-though not having children is usually the intended effect, I personally know more than one woman who “forgot” to have kids.
          At one time, advocates of planned parenthood spread a rumor that using hormonal birth control somehow saved a woman’s eggs for when she decided to use them.
          And I think that Patti is in the age range of the woman who “forgot”, and were exposed to all kinds of mis-information about fertility.
          Talk about the blind leading the blind! I cannot imagine why she would come out with this statement publicly unless she honestly does not get that she is too old to have children.
          It makes her look sad & silly.
          And it might be different if her boyfriend were younger, but at his age, why would you want to try and change his mind about it?

  60. nancy says:

    SORRY ABOUT kATS THOUGHT YOU were 2 people. Guess I was wrong.Just confused. one of your posts “thought we were not suppose to go to RT” Good nite, again. Oh, and Squirrls, please, please do not make me laugh so hard. Knew you would call me out if I something wrong. Or telling you how the cow ate the grass. Oregon saying. GO BEAVERS. nite

    • Squirrels says:

      Alrighty. I’m the evil one. I have no idea what is going on, but am willing to accept my role in any mad dog doing. It’s a gift, my mother told me.

    • kats2 says:

      Nancy – let’s move on and Squirrels you didn’t do anything.
      it was just miscommunication. . . .

  61. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Left a comment on the Patti Stanger story. Man, is her twitter I.D. pic ever airbrushed and photoshopped to death!

  62. TrueLifeDiva says:

    I work with mentaly challenged adults. Autism and Down Syndrom is real and nothing to play with. I’m 40 and have no kids, and if I ever marry there is zero chance I would try to have biological children because the risk is too great. Patti is kidding herself. Infertility and birth defects are a major concern for women over 40, she’s knocking on 50. Does her ex not want kids at ALL or just not right now? Both of them are old enough to be grandparents. How do you date someone for 6yrs and not know how they feel about wanting kids? I find that out about a guy by the 3rd date! What a joke…

    • felony stupid says:

      IMO she been holding on to this one for dear life. You figure they started dating when she was 43 and she already looked pretty silly being an unmarried (never married?) matchmaker. I think she just kept hoping this would pan out. In the end I figure the kid thing is a bit of an excuse. I figure she is well aware that she is well outside the timeframe to start thinking about having babies – meh…but who knows?

      TrueLife – Thank you for the work you do…I can’t imagine how challenging it must be. You are wonderful for doing it.

    • Squirrels says:

      Down syndrome perks my ears. Just because.


    • klmh says:

      Adoption, In-vitro insemination?

  63. felony stupid says:

    Off to Vegas tomorrow (later today?). I’ll be in withdrawals but I’m sure I’ll have lots to read when I get back. Wish me luck and have a lovely couple of days all!

  64. Quincy IL says:

    The Fashion Industry is a mess. I read that the Chicago designer of the red dress for Michele Obama went under last spring. Lynda of DC said that her company was down 38%. Kell from Earth said that the day of the 5,000 pants is gone. Then, Rachel accusses a hotel and designers of the “major theft” of a Versace valued at…get this… $100,000. rotfl. When found it looked like something I got a B on in high school home ec. Rachel’s show does not reflect the dire straights of the fashion industry one iota.

    Jacqueline Laurita’s husband sold overstocks of clothes and they went under. Even Ramona wanted to try something else, but she didn’t tell us that her company was having hard times too. I think that stores, like many other industries, tried to down size and just didn’t order.

    Celebrity stylists, like Paul Warton of DC, must be feeling the change too. (BTW… what celebrities get styled in DC… Michaela seems to have Paul as a stylist and she was a no body before her infamous party crashing. Well, not a nobody, she put makeup on people at Nordstrom’s.

  65. kats2 says:

    OT – anyone remember when we were talking about the Brazilian Blowout hair process?

    Well if anyone cares – Jacqueline just had it done (pics below include the product and what her hair looks like)


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I am intrigued and will ask my stylist next time I am in the salon about the it. Humidity has always been my enemy and I am hair dryer/curling iron challenged! Because I have thick, shoulder length, wavy/curly, highlighted hair it sounds interesting. I currently use silicone based smoothing product, set towel dried hair on big rollers and let it air dry – it works and I have volume and shine for days.

      • kats2 says:

        WCW – me too! The place I go to does not do this one put another version (just as expensive, lasts longer but has other issues with it). I’m checking out other places in the city that have a good rep and compare the costs. We’re both in Chi-town I believe. If you like I will share the info I find out and please let me know what your stylist has to say about it.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Pretty sure that was through an Avada salon; it looked similar to something they showed me although it’s not Avada that makes it. From what I hear a Japanese straightening lasts longer.

    • Quincy IL says:

      She has a lot of money for a woman whose husband’s business is in bankruptcy.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      @kats – I have the “menu” for Chateau and their services – they don’t list Brazilian Blowout, but they do list the Keratin treatment for $300. Don’t know if that helps

  66. Lizzie says:

    I know Bethenny has a lot of hard-core fans, but I’m not one of them. I find her fake and manipulative, and her acidic comments aren’t a result of her “tough” childhood — they’re a result of her narcissistic, self-entitled personality. I liked her last year, but after the PR stunt — I mean marriage and pregnancy — uh, no.

    I don’t like Jill and I never have. She’s a pain in the ass who should have been thrown out of the luxury SUV her husband bought her when she complained that it didn’t hold her iPhone. @@ Honestly, I don’t care for the NYC housewives at all. Once Kelly got added the franchise got stupid.

    That being said, I really detest Teresa and her drunk-driving husband Juiced-Up Joe. They should both be wearing orange jumpsuits and spending their days cleaning up used condoms and empty 40 bottles on the roadside to repay their crimes. I’d prefer Juiced-Up to be thrown in big-boy’s prison for a few years. This isn’t his first drunk driving arrest, and apparently he hasn’t learned a damned thing from the time he spent in jail years back. That tells me that he’s hard-core and probably drinks and drives without a thought — much the way you and I BREATHE.

    For the life of me, I don’t see the attraction in Albie Manzo either. He’s so dumb and is so tied to Mama’s apron that it’s … well, just creepy!

    • cusi77 says:

      Other than that… how lovely is to love!

    • Sha2000 says:

      I don’t see the Albie attraction either; but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    • kats2 says:

      For the record I love Bethenny’s sharp sense of humor and language and I don’t care where she got it from. I get it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but she owns it and I NEVER heard Bethenny blame it on her past or anything else. I should also point out that if the language or harshness is what bothers you, your comment doesn’t come across as if it was typed by kittens, so . . . . .

      Also that beautiful wedding and relationship is many wonderful things but a PR Stunt – IT IS NOT.

      Everything else I agree with.


      • Lizzie says:

        Nope, I never once claimed to be the most demure person in the world.

        As for Bethenny not blaming her childhood for her “issues”, did you miss the interview she did about a month ago when she blamed her mother for everything from WW1 to the attacks on the World Trade Center? She blamed her mother for being cold and uncaring, and blamed her for causing the divorce of her parents which she still isn’t over. I’m sure there’s a link to that interview out there somewhere.

        • kats2 says:

          I know the interview you are referring to. She did blame her parents for her issues with trusting people and relationships. She also credits how she was raised as to why she is on the mission to be successful and build her brand and have financial security.

          You said, “her acidic comments aren’t a result of her “tough” childhood”

          I said, “she never blamed her sharp language on her childhood” She owns her language and has apologized on many occassions.

          • Lizzie says:

            OK. I’ll agree to disagree with you about Bethenny.

            But I stand by my comments about the Juiced-Up drunk driver, his foreheadless wife, and the Manzo kid …

  67. WindyCityWondering says:

    I have been catching episodes of Jerseylisous because @Boston said Tracey is a friend of Ashley. Well they all have this attitude of speak my mind at your feeling’s expense, yeah I like to start a fight and everyone is just jealous (of orange skin, too much makeup, teased big hair and slut inspired clothing – right….) and Jersey is not just different but better than any other place in America! It makes it easier to undertand Teresa – but at what point do you grow up and be a responsible person????

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Funny thing about that – that salon isn’t far from my b/f’s house, on a major road. Whenever we drive past there to go food shopping the salon looks to be closed. Do they only open to film?

    • kats2 says:

      I have not watched Jerseylisous and thanks for the heads up/warning that it exists; I will make sure I never watch Jerseylisous.

      All I can compare NJ HW to is the MTV Jersey Shore kids, they are what started all this “worst of NJ” crap on TV (and btw I have been to NJ many, many times, I do a ton of work there so I know it has some beautiful areas and great people who are nothing like what we see on TV, I know for a fact all these people are not representing NJ. Jersey got stuck with Jersey Shore, HW’s, Jerseylisous crap, NYC and LA – well too many bad shows to pick, Chicago had/has Jerry Springer – we all have our crosses to bear)

      It’s too late for Teresa and Joe they are d.o.n.e., stick a big fork in them. Everything about them from how they talk, how they dress, how they walk, mannerisms, attitude, taste or lack thereof – screams trash. And I hate to say it but it’s over for the kids too, they are duplicates of the parents and you can see already that they have picked up the bad habits. Conversation in that foreclosed house is loud and harsh. We came close to seeing a normal moment with the Monopoly game scene but the Neanderthals came in and ruined it. I’m sure there are those moments, but kids yelling back when they asked basic stuff or demanding things makes me think the worst has already taken hold of them. But hopefully they will encounter great teachers and others around them who by example will teach them there is a different way to operate.

      Snooki, Jersey Shore cast and Ashley are still young enough to figure it out. But my money is on the MTV Jersey Shore kids, they are getting paid for their antics and I think at this point they know the joke is on them. I hope they suck every penny out of MTV and take care of themselves financially. For as pathetic as they are, they are confident characters and I think there is some hope for them.

      Ashley is VERY uncomfortable in her own skin, to the point that it’s hard to watch sometimes (example that mall photo shoot thing in S1). She wants fame, she has delusions of thinking she can be a model and now we know she is surrounded by friends and family who are on TV getting attention and fame that she would kill to have. But Ashley lacks the confidence which is sad to see in any kid. We all painfully watched the scenes with Ashley on the show, she is uncomfortable and in-between the nervous giggles, she cannot hold any type of conversation or even form a complete sentence. Ashley is just not good on TV and she is not a model. Maybe doing that stupid play Dina is producing will help her gain some confidence.

      So WCW long answer to your question – the combination of having confidence and seeing a life outside of the bubble they are currently living and leaning there is more to life and actually wanting it. That’s when I think the light bulb goes on and these kids will realize it’s time to change and move in the right direction. For some they might think their life in Jersey is it, if they are happy and don’t live the life of thieves like the Giudice family that’s cool too.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        Thanks Kat for commenting that ALL of NJ does not act the way these shows portray us. Now, for the record – the cast of Jersey Shore isn’t from Jersey (with the exception of one). They are from NY and RI. It makes me nuts that people assume they are from Jersey so I felt the need to clarify. As for the other shows, I wont even watch them b/c of the stereotype.

        • kats2 says:

          I got your back Jersey Laura

        • Sha2000 says:

          I’m from NY & I think a lot of NY/NJ is interchangeable because there is so much commuting between the two; there are good & bad, smart & dumb people in both states. In the case of theses shows especially Jersey Shore (which I’m proud to say I’ve never seen, RHONJ is pungent enough for me) it has to do more with the company one keeps & their collective IQ, rather than the states they live in.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Laura – I don’t include you in this micro system of “jersey” as seen on these shows. You are a real person and I respect what you say and look to you for a real version of Jersey vs these shows.
          The Jerseylicous epidsode today had Tracey and Lisa going to NYC to get make unders at a top salon….very telling about their self images.

  68. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Just finished the America’s Finest City 5K run an hour ago. Waiting for race results. Curious to see if @Squirrels improved my finish time as my silent partner 😉

  69. boston02127 says:

    Good morning everyone. 🙂

    Kelly’s tweets: never feel like a terrible mom, its the hardest job to rear children. do the best job u can, cant ask more of urself.

    Next: happpyyy sunday. the girls are with their tutor and i am getting ready to ride my new horse. u?

    Hmmm…..no comment.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Good morning Boston! I have given up trying to comprehend anything Kelly says…that woman is bat shit crazy.

    • kats2 says:

      So Kelly you f-ing moron, if I had 3 kids but really “my best” was just handling 1 so I locked the other 2 in a closet for the day, I shouldn’t beat myself over it because “I’m doing the best I can do”.

      I hate her!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sounds like the girls have a very structured life and Kelly gets limited chunks of time with them by design. Sad but probably very necessary.

    • cc in Miami says:

      Guess I was late to the party!

      • Quincy IL says:

        Jill is going to be there for Patti so we don’t have to worry. Maybe, Jill can find Patti a rich man to marry.

        Honestly, the premise of Patti’s show is…..

        Attractive, but poor men, women and gays look for rich, obnoxious men, women and gays who are not attractive.

        Jill’s book should inspire all of these people.

      • kats2 says:

        cc in Miami – No problem just another reminder that Patti has no idea what she’s talking about and she’s the last person anyone should to for help in finding a partner.

        I hope the Manzo brothers go on her show (as rumored to be)and one of them hooks with her, gets her prego because we do know she’s dying to get prego and watch Caroline deal with it.

  70. AZ Girl says:

    This week’s Star magazine has an article about Teresa and Joe claiming they are sleeping in separate bedrooms and Joe has been seen being affectionate with another woman. Anyone else has heard about this?

  71. kats2 says:

    Has anyone seen the latest twitter pic Kelly is using? It’s really bad, in addition to the over baked skin, she looks greasier than ever, and her nose is a completely different color (like she has an alcoholic nose condition).

  72. Lizzie says:

    Didn’t someone here mention the fact that Joe’s been seeing a blonde named Tara? I know I read it somewhere. I’m not sure if it’s truth or rumor, but there seemed to be a lot of people who knew about her. I read that he even took her to his jobsite?

  73. sugarmagnolia10 says:

    Re: Cat

    The thing that got me about her was the scene with Mary and her at the restaurant. She asked the busboy, “Can I have more wine”? The busboy went to turn, probably to get Lolly (who was their server), and she said “No, the wine is there.” Less than an arm reach away from her. She couldn’t have poured her own wine? Then she laughed as he went to pour it for her, as if he was so gauche as to not know that he was to be pouring her wine for her.
    Don’t get me wrong, had they been in a fine dining restaurant, her wine needing filling is a reasonable expectation. It’s part of the reason you pay high dollars for entrees. But that should have been expressed to Lolly, as busboys are strictly forbidden from touching wine bottles (unless they are empty and need clearing) to serve. It was Lolly’s job to keep the wine full, not the busboy’s. Even so, they were in a casual restaraunt! Not at freaking tea at the Ritz, or even lunch at the Four Seasons.

    What a freaking snob….I think people who treat servers as beneath them are truly disgusting. People with respect for others would either pour their own wine, or find a way to politely ask for their server.

    I also think her discomfort at Stacie’s aunts was more about her being unable to engage socially more than a race issue. I think she’s quite cold, so the warmth of the event made her really uncomfortable.

  74. kats2 says:

    Sugar – so happy you brought this up

    “The thing that got me about her was the scene with Mary and her at the restaurant. She asked the busboy, “Can I have more wine”? The busboy went to turn, probably to get Lolly (who was their server), and she said “No, the wine is there.” Less than an arm reach away from her. She couldn’t have poured her own wine?”

    I meant to look it up to see what the official rule is in a restaurant. I mean the salt and pepper is placed on the table next to the wine should the busboy be asked to sprinkle that on her food? Where is Countess Luann when you need her. It was also a slam to both Mary and her daughter because the daughter is who was serving her and should be pouring the wine.

    I have a feeling this is like the car service thing, you should never have to touch the door handle (open and close the car door). If anyone knows the proper etiquette on this wine pouring thing please share.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Would it be classy to state that Cat seems to be a lush?

    • sugarmagnolia10 says:

      I looked for some websites that explain it, but couldn’t find any good ones that didn’t charge $$$…
      So, I will share my own experience, which is limited and quite dated.

      When I was in college, I worked at 2 different fine dining establishments. Other than the the varied quirks of the GM’s, the expectations were pretty much the same. Most fine dining rest’s have a pyramid of service…bottom to top–busboys, runners, hostesses, servers, and then varying degrees of management.
      The servers and managers are the only ones who should have dialogue with the diner. The busboys and runners should never interact, just clear or serve quietly and unobtrusively. Busboys were strictly forbidden from serving or touching wine, should the customer have a question or because their is a special way of pouring wine at a fine dining table as to not spill a drop. It’s part of the “show” if you will. If a busboy is asked for service, he is to nod, not speak, and go get the server, unless the request is to clear a dish.

      That being said, this restaurant did not seem fine dining–more like a casual lunch place. Even though her wine was empty, the busboy did the right thing by looking for the server (Lolly) to either pour the wine OR take an order for a new glass/bottle.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        thanks! you come up with the coolest links

        • klmh says:

          Thanks! I get so much great information here, glad I could add to a discussion. Appreciate your comment.
          And you add some great thoughts and ideas too.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      By all means Cat – have someone who is cleaning up the garbage and wiping down the tables pour your wine! Idiot…. the busyboy may have not been old enough to serve alcohol.

  75. Laura aka Just done says:

    OT – opinions please:

    I’ve been considering getting a Twitter account but I’m still unsure. First – what would my Twitter Name be? Second, just how difficult is it to maneuver around Twitter. I’m far from computer illiterate, but I don’t know if it might be too annoying to be worth it. The reason I’ve been contemplating it more so recently is because it would be fun to tweet while at the auction – sort of a “real time” scenario. What does everyone think?

    Don’t forget – twitter name…I’m completely drawing a blank and you guys are soooo clever

    • kats2 says:

      Should you – Yes go for it

      Name – JerseyLaura is all I can come up with for now, you should work Irish in too. Maybe something better will surface based on your field trip on the 22nd.

      What’s Twitter Like – It’s a pain in the ass, if you want to know the truth but it is fun. There are some cool things to follow based on your interest. And Lynn can hook you up on how to deal with all the navigation and features and will get plenty of people to follow you. I’m still a newby and suck at it. The pain for me is keeping up with all the messages and reading everything, I follow about 50 people and there are always links to to stuff to read. If you follow all the stuff you care about, it becomes a one stop shop for news, and stuff.

      Just do it and let me know so we can follow each other.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      I’m following you all now, muahaha!

  76. Kukulet says:

    Lizzie says:

    As for Bethenny not blaming her childhood for her “issues”, did you miss the interview she did about a month ago when she blamed her mother for everything from WW1 to the attacks on the World Trade Center? She blamed her mother for being cold and uncaring, and blamed her for causing the divorce of her parents which she still isn’t over. I’m sure there’s a link to that interview out there somewhere.

    Link: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20400758,00.html

    Where in that article did Bethenny blame her mother for causing her parents divorce? The article says, specifically, that Bobby Frankel walked out on his wife and daughter. That’s it. How is that Bethenny blaming Bonnie for the divorce? Nor did she state that she “isn’t over” the divorce of her parents.

    • Tootsie says:

      I am married to a man who has “mommy never loved me, she loved my brother” issues. That is a hurt that can be carried from childhood through life. Yes, we can get over it, but I think Bethenny getting pregnant, and having that beautiful little girl, just brought stuff to the surface that was lying there for years. She is grieving the loss of a mothers love and wondering how her mother could not have loved her as she loves Bryn. Some woman should never have children.

    • TLM says:

      I couldn’t believe I stumbled upon that article — if you mean the one called “Bethenny’s Lies”? It was funny in an ironic way because Bonnie Frankel, in claiming Bethenny was lying about her childhood, basically confirmed everything B said. Bonnie actually was quoted as saying, “Yes, the police were called to our house a few times, but they always left without incident.” What?? That’s like saying my husband beat me several times, but he always said he was sorry afterwards. Apparently Bonnie thought it was no big deal since no one left in handcuffs. What a lunatic. Can you imagine how traumatic it is to be in a house that was so violent the police were called *several* times? Evidently Bonnie and John were so utterly oblivious to the fact there was a child in the house made up after these fights with sex, and did so loudly. B said she heard everything and that she often hid in a closet. I too was in a violent and volatile house as a child, and it is terrifying to feel no one is there to protect you and no one gives a damn about you. B’s mother also claims she couldn’t be a professor if she were an alcoholic, again ridiculous as there are many “functioning” alcoholics. She also 1) is an adjunct teacher 2) of interior design 3) at Queens College. This isn’t exactly like being a professor of nuclear physics at MIT, although I’m sure there are functioning alcoholic profs there, too. Her mother looks like the face of alcholism, and looks far older than her years. She actually was an attractive woman in photos in the 1980s. I don’t blame Bethenny at all for cutting her mother out of her life.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        B’s mom has taught a couple of continuing ed courses at Queens College, according to what the College has online. A “professor” she’s not if that’s the sole basis for her claiming that title.

        As you note, alcoholics are in all the professions, so of course one can be an alcoholic and a working professor, etc.. Denial is a common characteristic of alcoholics who aren’t in recovery. If she claimed she couldn’t be an alkie because she’s a “professor,” that’s almost like a tell. Many alcoholics insist they’re not alcoholics because they have jobs and aren’t homeless on the streets….yet they are in fact alcoholics.

        As you said, her admission that the cops arrived at their door due to her & her husband fighting tends to confirm B’s story. That no one may have been arrested wasn’t the point. The point was their fights got to that level and the effect it had on their child, especially when the child sometimes was the one calling the cops.

        • Noelle says:

          Functioning alcoholics.(In response to your second paragraph.)

          A term @work I hear often in regards to those afflicted, yet turning out good numbers.

          Sick, sad and true.

      • TLM says:

        Oops, to correct myself, the article was called “Bethenny’s Lies,” and ran in the July 26, 2010 issue of Star Magazine. I am going to try to post it as a twitpic in the current blog.

  77. TLM says:

    If someone already commented on this I apologize, but so much was made over Jason’s sweating problem, as well as Chuck’s, so why don’t they get the “lamb chop” treatment from Ramona’s dermatologist???? Was I the only one thinking this? If I had a sweat problem that was that bad, there would be no question that I would do it. I think there is also a laser treatment for that that’s non-invasive.

    • Squirrels says:

      That procedure looked seriously painful. I’d rather sweat.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        LOL, me too! But, you have to hand it to Ramona, she was a trouper

      • TLM says:

        Ramona insisted it wasn’t bad, and I would think if it were it would be hard to act like she wasn’t feeling it, and she looked fine. Still, like I said I think there are laser treatments that work the same way laser hair removal does. That can sting, but it’s very quick.

    • kats2 says:

      Actually I just thought the whole thing was pretty gross and could do without the personal hygiene info on the show. YMMV

  78. Anitabee says:

    Squirrels — you’re Ohforfoksake? Awesome.

    I don’t tweet but I have seen your snarky tweets everwhere.

    You give good tweet!

  79. kats2 says:

    Is this a funny tweet or what? Chris sent it to Kelly. I’m lovin Chris

    chris106243 Hey Mumbles-you’re a sick schizobitch-and I’m not gonna pay a dime to tell you that. It’s free to be you and me @kikilet

    • Squirrels says:

      I can see her face now, how dare they be mean? I’m all that plus a bag of chicken wings!

    • Anitabee says:

      Well, as long as we talking about Kelly.

      Let’s discuss this one: “@originalbetty another live one. any “meantweets” send $1 to ur fav charity for every tweet. get mean, give ”

      Why does this moron think she can order people to do anything? She’s the one talking about Charity but doesn’t give them money. This twit thinks that because she does a step and repeat she done enough. What a frinkin loser.

      How about someone tweet her back that any time she says anything:

      About her obsession with Bethenny
      Clinically Insane

      She has too fine herself and give $100 dollars to the Children’s Defense Fund?

      • Squirrels says:

        OMG. U totally have to tweet that to her!

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          did u see what I just tweeted her? This is my son DOING, and not talking about it http://tiny.cc/14yye

            • Laura aka Just done says:

              Thanks. I’m sitting here, thinking about how she irritates me with all of her talk, then the lightbulb went off…post it! LOL I can’t even blame lack of coffee. Oh well.

              • Anitabee says:

                Your son is an incredible young man. You must be (and should be) so proud of him.

                What a cutie!

                P.S. Oh no! I just Kelly’s tweet about wanting a baby boy.
                Hide your son…He’s the type of little boy any mother would love to call her own.

              • Laura aka Just done says:

                Anitabee – too funny! I responded to Kelly’s tweet telling her to buy another handbag.

                Thanks, I am proud of him

          • kats2 says:

            Laura your son is so cute and he obviously has a good heart too! You must be such a proud Mommy! That was amazing what he did.

            Big hugs to him and tell him thank you!

            • Laura aka Just done says:

              Thanks Kats – because I was so proud of him, I got him a cake from Cake Boss. That is why the cake is in the picture, it was a big deal, Buddy delivered it and all. I am proud of him, he wants to be a vet. This summer he’s worked at an animal shelter that received dogs who were displaced because of the gulf oil spill. He has a good heart.

              • MickeyMouth says:

                Now I’m jealous I love Cake Boss! Was it good?

              • Laura aka Just done says:

                It was delish Mickey! He really was great about it too. He knew about the charity, donated some items, and made “doggy paws” on the cake, just like their logo. All very cute, and he was a very genuine guy.

          • Need a Hobby says:

            Now that is something really amazing, fabulous, and authentic.

            Kudos to your son!

        • quincyillinois says:

          Why are the Bravo celebrities on twitter ?

          Jeff Lewis gets his info out and signs off.

          • Need a Hobby says:

            I get the folks who use it as a tool to promote themselves and their real businesses.

            The one’s that puzzle me are those who don’t seriously have anything going on business-wise and appear to be addicted to their so-called “celebrity.” Like every bowel movement should be a matter for public notice and discussion. The silly flame wars, etc. They have such “fabulous” lives that they spend hours arguing with strangers, telling other people to “get a life.” The irony escapes them.

        • Anitabee says:

          I don’t have a twitter account but…

          Kelly drives me so nuts I just might sign up so I can tweet her to stop drinking and self medicating herself with sugar, patron, and speed.

          I predict it would take her an hour to block me.

          • Laura aka Just done says:

            I’m going on 2 hours, she hasn’t blocked me yet…but I’m getting there! LOL

  80. ilovelynn says:

    that ilana is at it again at the jewish journel, keeping the faith. dated 8/15 talking about what a waste of time bethenny’s lost footage show was. unbelievable! I wish I know how to link it to this site. sorry, but check it out. she is sooooo a jz fan and friend the way she talks about bethenny and twists things around. she says she has never seen anyone so unhappy being pregnant. huh! and that bethenny is so cold. what show is she watching?

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      I can’t even read her, she is so contradictory

    • Need a Hobby says:

      She’s not a JZ fan, based on her RHONY blogs. But she evidently has projection issues and, based on previous blogs, doesn’t let facts get in the way of her views and jumps to assumptions. Her “take” on B’s is like Kiki’s…..no rational discussion is possible on the subject. If she’s criticized or contradicted, she’s proclaims herself to be a victim of (systematic) bullying. It’s rather odd IMO.

      Not worth the time to read or bother with that blog IMO. Last time she evidently tried to start a “blog war” (presumably with Lynn & posters here) and wound up deleting her unfounded and unsupportable accusations from her blog.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        By “last time” I meant the last time her blog was discussed here.

        Generally, I don’t think it’s worth it to add to her page views. Especially after that previous nonsense.

    • Squirrels says:

      She can say what she wants. Those who agree, will follow her. Those who don’t, get to walk away. I’m of the latter variety.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      maybe she is confusing her life with Bethenny’s life?

  81. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Squirrels, I’m gonna need you be at the finish line at my next 5K run. I only shaved 15 seconds off my best time, I was hoping for 45 seconds due to all the extra traing I’ve been doing. I was so disappointed I went the gym and took a Turbo Kickboxing class. Now I’m munching on breadsticks from Pat & Oscars before my old ass takes a nap. Thanks to everyone who wished me well. I love you guys! 🙂

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      You ONLY shaved 15 seconds…are you kidding – YOU ROCK! I couldn’t do it, I am so out of shape. You are my hero!

    • Squirrels says:

      One of my most fond memories was the “Virgina Slim’s 5K run” back in circa 1980. I lived on Charles St, Boston and watched out my window as 3000 women ran past, all shapes, colors, sizes. It was a thing of beauty.

      As to shaving off 15 v. 45 seconds? I’d be lucky to even find the finish line. Next time you run, please let me know. I would be only too happy to cheer you on in person.

  82. TrueLifeDiva says:

    I guess I should explain myself in regards to the 5K thingy. 3yrs ago I was 50lbs overweight and miserable. I made a New Years resolution to get back in shape by ANY means short of surgery:-). I did Nutrisystem, hired a personal trainer, and bought a BodyBugg. I’m within 10lbs of my high school/college weight and wear a size 6-8. It’s a constant battle not to drift back up in weight. Last year I made a new resolution to run a race every month. This would give me a new goal every month and allow me to be “charitable” since these events always benefit a charity or cause. I fell short and only did 6 races last year so I challenged myself again this year. So far I’m keeping my promise to myself and have done 7 races (5K, 10K, and one 8mile). This year I added the challenge of improving my average time. Gives something to focus on, not merely bragging. Sorry for the long winded story ya’ll;-). And I really do appreciate the kind spirited comments.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      @TrueLifeDiva – Your story is very inspirational. First let me comment on the BodyBug – I don’t know if you watch Biggest Loser, but one of the finalists from Season 8 came (at my request) to my son’s school to speak. When I spoke to her, she said the BodyBug was the best thing she ever used. As for running marathons, she said it was the hardest thing she ever had to do. I give you major kudos for accomplishing what you have. I wish I could do it. You truly are in inspiration.

    • Squirrels says:

      ROCK ON GIRL! I applaud you. My offer stands. Just tell me when and where!

    • Quincy IL says:

      I started slow running (lol) at those events too. As you get older, you have to exercise more and watch what you eat. It’s a fact of later life.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      you have earned the right to brag in my book!

    • kats2 says:

      That’s amazing, thank you for sharing your story with us.

  83. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Kelly’s latest tweet. LOL

    kikilet Just saw a baby boy on the beach. I want a little baby boy. First I need the right man, no opportunists need apply
    2 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      she seems to have limited time with her daughters so now she wants a baby?

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        I just replied to her tweet: @kikilet a baby is not an accessory. Go buy yourself another handbag to put on the shelf. Babies require care

    • kats2 says:

      She spelled opportunists correctly.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        She responded: children are not accessories. I have the most amazing girls. We have a blast, and I am so proud of them.

        Oh sweet Jesus..this woman will never get a clue!

      • Anitabee says:


        Maybe Kelly, Patti Stranger and I. Angel can ask Bethenny to do a self-help seminar that they can attend about how to have a great relationship, career, marriage and family all at the same time.


        That shit-awful advice found in “Secrets of a Jewish Mother” that Jill gave them has them acting like desperate insane jealous grasping twits that want everything Bethenny was able to achieve in the last two years…

    • boston02127 says:

      @icantstandthetoxicity–Dear God NOOO. I pray for the 2 she has.

  84. Squirrels says:

    Jeebus H. Christmas. Does this woman stop at nothing to compete with Bethenny?

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      I don’t know if she wants to be her, or wear her like last year’s Versace.

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      Remember the honeymoon episode of BGM when Bethenny saw a little girl on the beach chasing a butterfly? That is when Bethenny revealed that she wanted a girl. I think Kelly saw that episode of BGM. LOL

    • Need a Hobby says:

      That’s the thing—Kelly doesn’t think she is. (In Kellyland, B’s the one whose jealous and competing with her. )

      But she “invented” a drink that already existed, took to video with her “healthful” lifestyle and eating tips, and now is playing the baby card although she apparently doesn’t have a steady significant other. (She physically assaulted the last one.) And wasn’t she actually talking about have her own “show” but not on an actual television network but via online, streaming her fabulousity to the poor huddled masses she thinks are yearning for more Kellyosity? Oh and she’s also an allegedly world famous “author” of some out of print coffee table books. No doubt she’s working on her next tome on her blackberry.

      For those who may not have already seen this video by RCH: Kelly and Bethenny in the Hamptons. http://www.youtube.com/user/RealCityHousewife#p/a/u/2/nukTao4LAI4

      • Need a Hobby says:

        (I really do know the difference between “whose” and “who’s.” oops.)

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          In this case, it would be who’s (as in who is)

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Does anyone else notice occasionally one can’t reply to a comment because there’s no “reply” link?

          Anyway, I realize I wasn’t clear in my last response to Laura. What’s irksome at times is that I only notice errors after I post and there’s no edit function.

          • Laura aka Just done says:

            I think when the thread gets too long..no more reply. I agree about the edit function, I hate when I read something after it’s posted and it’s too late. In the case of your post, I read what you wrote to edit yourself, but I read it wrong! How stupid was that?!?

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        Speaking of the Hamptons, Kelly just tweeted that she is on her way to Montauk. Isn’t that where Bethenny stays when she is in the Hamptons?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        nothing like broadcasting nationally that you want a baby – not a good topic for a first date!

        • Need a Hobby says:

          “Sperm donor wanted for a fabulously authentic relationship of indeterminate duration. Must play pool, eat chicken wings and beer, and also have season tickets to the Met (opera, not baseball). Must like cartwheels and unicorns. Must never discuss feelings, Marlo Thomas, or anything that could possibly be related to the year 1979. Fast reflexes and the ability to dodge a punch are desirable.”

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Kelly believes that everything she thinks, her thoughts are real, original and authentic to herself. She would not put together that anything she thinks came from Bethenny’s life – to survive she needs to believe others are copying her!

  85. boston02127 says:

    OT-The Boston medical student who preyed on Craigslist escorts and murdered a Manhattan model last year was found dead in prison Sunday – an apparent suicide on what would have been his first wedding anniversary.

  86. boston02127 says:

    Today was my mom’s birthday (and the blessing of the sea) I made her favorite meat pies and salad and bought a cake. I decorated her room with balloons and a HB sign. When I went to get her cake this morning, I picked out a white cake with purple flowers. I asked the girl to write Happy Birthday Mom in purple on it. She did it in hot pink. When I asked her why she didn’t use purple she said (snippy) “that’s the best I do”. I paid for it and went and told the manager and he asked me if I’d take the cake for free. He gave me $14.99 back. He was very nice.
    This has nothing to do with the HW’s but it was a nice day. My mom has had a rough month, she fell and had to get 28 stitches in the back of her head last week. It was really upsetting. Today was nice to see her happy.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      You’re a peach, boston. Blessings to you and your mom. 🙂

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      @Boston – Tell your mom Happy Birthday. I’m glad you had a nice day with her. She’s very fortunate to have you, as you are to have her. Send her birthday wishes from New Jersey. 🙂

    • Squirrels says:

      Many happy returns of the day to your mom Boston. Balloons, party favors, brightly decorated cakes rock!

      And, BTW, I’d have been less than kind in my dealings with that cake lady. She’d be shake and bake by now. Of course I mean that in the most loving way possible.

      Then again, I’d have hired a stripper….. ooops. I must stop talking out loud, dammit.

    • Anitabee says:

      Good job on the cake!

      Every Birthday must be celebrated with cake.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Happy Birthday to your mom and I’m betting you are the best present she will ever have!

    • klmh says:

      Sorry to hear she’s had a rough month. Hope this next one will be better.
      How wonderful it is you have such a great relationship with your mother and that you still have her with you. Congratulations!

    • Quincy IL says:

      Boston, give her an extra hug from all of us.

    • Ellabean says:

      Boston, all the very best to you and your mom. Please know that as a newbie poster here – I am a huge fan of your posts. Your mom has raised a daughter with a good head on her shoulders. I wish her a very happy birthday. 🙂

  87. OneMoreinBoston says:

    I’m sorry to hear about the 28 stitches-yikes! But glad to see a small injustice was made right. Sometimes it’s the little things…
    Happy Mom’s Birthday!

  88. boston02127 says:

    Jill was bickering with someone no tweeter.

    Tweet to Jill— @jillzarin Jill, you are mistaken. Your book has not had a 2nd printing.

    Jill’s return tweet—– @LosingForty why lie. Why do u care? Check with publisher but apologize when proved!

    Does anyone know if her book has gone to 2nd publishing?

    • boston02127 says:

      correction—-“on tweeter” not “no tweeter” sorry.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      No idea where to find out that information – maybe the publisher? So did Jill print them herself? Guess she got a hobby after all! Another reason we hate her!

      • CdnFillie says:

        saw this on the publishers site..don;t know what it means though

        Books 1-2 of 2
        Secrets of a Jewish Mother Secrets of a Jewish Mother
        Real Advice, Real Stories, Real Love
        Jill Zarin, Gloria Kamen, Lisa Wexler
        eBook: Adobe reader | Dutton Adult | 15 Apr 2010
        More… $12.99
        add to cart
        Secrets of a Jewish Mother Secrets of a Jewish Mother
        Real Advice, Real Stories, Real Love
        Jill Zarin, Lisa Wexler, Gloria Kamen
        Book: Hardcover | Dutton Adult | 15 Apr 2010
        More… $25.95
        add to cartw this on the publishers site..don;t know what it means though

        • CdnFillie says:

          duh..one’s the ebook and the other is the hardcover…guess it doesn’t mean a 2nd printing at all
          lies lies lies JZ//it never stops

  89. boston02127 says:

    For the past couple of days I have been reading all the posts quickly and I ignored the Patti Stanger story. So she’s been dumped! I mean she called it off. Ha, the queen of love advice can’t find love. I bet his family is celebrating.

  90. Laura aka Just done says:

    Has anyone realized that this is the Giudice’s week from hell? They are going to try to stop the auction this week, Juicy will go for his court appearance on the 20th, and of course, we have the auction on the 22nd. Ain’t life grand?

  91. boston02127 says:

    All the Manzo’s are on a bus going to NY. They are celebrating 3 b-days. One of them tweeted that their are 30 family members on the bus. I find it odd that they are tweeting. You’d wonder why they don’t put down the phones and stop texting and tweeting and talk to one another.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      LOL Boston, I was going to tweet that to Dina, “if you are having so much fun, why are you tweeting?” Figured it would get me blocked right away. I want to see how much time it takes for her to block me ’cause I’m following Lynn

    • Need a Hobby says:

      How nice to announce it publicly and warning the general populace.

  92. Nice Blog.. I love it.. Keep up the good work..

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