I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of DC August 20, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Real Housewives of DC                 August 20, 2010

Before we get into the DC ladies, Bravo has given us a sneak peek at the Atlanta Housewives return in October, tweeted by Kandi last night:

Here’s a sneak peek of Real Housewives of ATL http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-atlanta/season-3/videos/head-back-to-atlanta

Looks like another fun season of ripping each other’s wigs off and fingers in the faces.  As we’ve heard, Lisa Wu Hartwell is missing in action and will apparently only appear in the first few episodes, there are two new ladies joining Atlanta this season.  If you watch the above linked video, please be sure to immediately turn it off or you will see Kim’s Tardy for the Party video next up, so quickly, turn it off, seriously! 

The ladies that hail from our capitol city were at it again last night, I’ll tell you one thing, they are certainly trying to bring the drama.

I really do enjoy scenes when the ladies are interacting and enjoying themselves, I know Bravo keeps those to a minimum because the drama filled scenes bring in the ratings.  Stacie and her husband visiting their friends at the winery was nice, Michaele and her husband joined them without explanation, I can only imagine it was for the show.  Michaele and Tarik didn’t know the winery owners and best I can tell only recently met Stacie and her husband but I can only assume that they heard filming would be going on and so they got all dressed up for a casual afternoon and showed up.

Tarik Salahi is an absolute moron, he tries to take over every scene that he appears in, we already know that he is a wine expert and a polo expert but he still felt the need to teach everyone at someone else’s winery how to taste wine!  That man just annoys the hell out of me! 

I did find it a bit odd that the Turners invited the Salahi’s to join them for a quickie trip to Paris but with another great opportunity to be on camera, the Salahi’s jumped at the chance.  I would bet anything that they first asked if it would be filmed by Bravo before they agreed to go.  Watching them pack was ridiculous!  I understood this to be a 2-3 day trip, 4 suitcases Michaele?  Come-on, that isn’t even funny! 

I want to share with you a tweet from an African American friend of mine on Twitter, she posted this after Jason Turner said something about “those white folks” joining them in Paris. 

@follownyoazz  @stacie_turner tell hubby don’t b saying “white folks” if u don’t want them saying “black folks” just say FOLKS!

This is why I love this girl!  She tells it like it is and makes sense!  She could never be a housewife! 

It was a lot of fun to watch Stacie and Jason visiting backstage, you could just see how proud they were of Jason’s little brother.  I even enjoyed watching the concert, the energy was high and the crowd really loved it.  Of course, we see that crazy Michaele over-acting and trying to steal the limelight away from the Turners big night. 

In Paris we also learned that Stacie was adopted but has been in touch with her mother.  Stacie’s upset because her mother doesn’t want to reveal details about Stacie’s father.  As Stacie is telling Michaele the story, Michaele is making all the right interested faces and sounds but you have to wonder if Michaela really cares or if she’s acting once again for the cameras.  I just don’t trust that lady! 

I hope Stacie has made peace with her Mother’s decision to keep her biological father’s identity a secret or maybe things have changed by now.  I would bet that her mother has a really good reason for her decision.  There could be many heartbreaking reasons why it is best that Stacie never know who this man is.   In the end, I’m sure her mother has reasons that are only in Stacie’s best interests to keep this information to herself.  She’s most likely trying to protect her daughter. 

Paul Wharton learns that the Salahi’s not only did not help to pay for his birthday party that they hosted, but insisted on a legal document releasing them from any responsibility to pay any part of it.  Who does this?  As Mary noted, if you’re “hosting” you’re paying!  According to Michaele, there were four hosts for the evening and so the four of them should have had a telephone conference to discuss the final financial responsibilities of each one of them.  Michaele’s blog is up and she doesn’t deny any of it, the attorney call, the non-payment, she merely states that they donated wine and “some” Champaign.  (That one bottle that they splashed all over the guests?)    This is from a couple who couldn’t produce four glasses of wine on their winery during the polo lesson?  I think the wine had dried up by that point!  Does anyone else remember Michaele saying that she was nice enough to invite Lynda to the party?  That is wrong in so many ways but if you’re not paying for the party, who are you to scrutinize the guest list? 

Mary is disgusted to learn what Michaele had done to Paul but is more flustered to learn that her daughter knows all about “sexting”.  Utoh, they grow up so fast, don’t they Mary?  Hopefully Mary had a bit more of a conversation with her daughter about “sexting” and more after the cameras stopped rolling.  Thank you for not putting more of that on screen, ala Jill talking to Ally…uncomfortable!

I just have to include one more tweet that I found really funny:

@followinyoazz  Whats Sexting? Mary puhleez go sit ur brand new ass n time out! 

Lynda just seems to want to spend all of her time on camera bashing Michaele Salahi, fun pastime but it does get a bit redundant.  Lynda claims that she cares deeply for Michaele and only has her best interest at heart, who are you kidding Lynda?  We know that Lynda cannot stand Tarik Salahi, we get that, we agree, let’s move on. 

Another one of those fun private fashion shows in a large department store for charity.  Jill’s wasn’t for charity but at least she had a sit down meal for her guests.  Watching that was rather dull and just seemed to be another platform for Lynda to bash Michaele, who wasn’t even there, by the way. 

I know I’m in the minority but I like Cat, and I can understand her because she comes from the same part of the world as most of my family.  In fact, her voice is very much like my father’s…LOL.  She has a deep voice with a strong accent and I think she’s very much misunderstood.  (in more ways than one)   She’s in a tough spot having just recently moved to a new country with two young girls and a husband who is MIA a lot of the time, she feels stressed out.  Rarely do your plans pan out the way you expect them to and Cat wants her husband home more often, I think a lot of people can relate to that. 

I thought it was very sweet when her husband surprised her at her photo shoot and whisked her away to do his own shoot.  I have to agree that his scenario was a lot better than the shopping bag thing. 

I’m glad that Cat was able to clear her name on screen at yet another dinner party for charity that all of the ladies attended.  I really like Stacie but her friend, who is clearly looking for camera time, needs to go!  She’s a trouble maker and she’s inappropriate!  Stacie liked to talk about Cat being rude and inappropriate, she need to look to her left at that dinner party to see her close friend behaving much worse! 

Particularly when it looked as though Cat was trying very hard to fit in and make peace with Stacie, Mary and Lynda were trying to get Stacie and Cat to bury any invisible hatchet with a toast for the five ladies.  Stacie’s friend needed to shut up, stay the hell out of it and stop with the race card comments!  Personally, I hope that we never see that woman on camera again!  Stacie seems like a reasonable, nice lady who would most likely get along fine with all of the women, including Cat, if she didn’t have that friend constantly throwing out nasty comments!

I was surprised to see Lynda saying how much she liked Cat, I got the impression from earlier episodes that she did not like her.   Lynda acknowledged how great it is that Cat speaks her mind and I can respect that Lynda seemed to change her mind about Cat. 

I enjoyed watching Cat getting it all off her chest with Paul, he is just a really nice guy, isn’t he?  She even made a joke with him at the end of their conversation that showed they both have a great sense of humor!   I love Paul!  I am fine with him being the 6th housewife with the DC ladies, he fits in well with them all.  He now see’s Michaele for what she is but had the class to not bring it up at this dinner party as he knew it would be inappropriate.  I almost wish he would have, because that is how the housewives roll, but he’ll learn that soon enough! 

As I write this only Michaele and Mary’s blogs are up on Bravotv.com, poor misunderstood Michaele tells of her donations to Paul’s Birthday party but doesn’t dispute that her attorney called Paul’s publicist or that she paid absolutely nothing toward his party expenses. 

Last week Cat wrote in her blog that she felt the need to leave the country due to the way she appeared on screen.  I think that may be a bit overdramatic but if that’s the truth, it surely is safe to return to the US after last night’s episode! 

 Its true Jill Zarin left for Israel after her antics on screen so maybe that will be the new trend.  When do you suppose Teresa will be leaving the country to avoid her shame?  She can always hide in her home in Italy, I hope it is cleansy enough for her. 

Alex McCord writes a blog for People Magazine on The Real Housewives of DC, you can read it here:  @McCordAlex  My RHODC blog for @PeopleMag is up at http://bit.ly/PeopleDC3

I’m not sure why Alex is writing her blogs on People.com and on Bravotv.com, I’m a little worried that Alex is trying to keep her name out there by phoning in these blogs, they’re not up to her usual standards and I have to say in many cases I don’t agree with her, but that’s ok too!  What I didn’t like in this most recent People blog was the dig at Danielle from New Jersey while writing about DC, completely unnecessary. 

I have a theory, tell me what you all think.  Bravo is delaying the Real Housewives of New York to see if they even want to bring them back at all.  What if DC and Beverly Hills really take off and bring in ratings to outweigh anything New York has done?  We know that New Jersey blew New York out of the water in ratings, so is that now the standard that Bravo expects from their Housewives series before they’ll green light another season?  We know Atlanta does well, they may even beat out New Jersey in the ratings starting in October.  Does Bravo need their lowest rated Housewife series to continue for another season?  Maybe dealing with the psychosis of Kelly Bensimon and her calling Andy Cohen demanding an appearance on Watch What Happens Live to provide her side of the story, and Jill’s horrible mother calling Andy Cohen anti-semetic and Jill calling him to complain about everything, maybe it’s all too much and not worth it anymore.  Not for half the ratings numbers than New Jersey brings into Bravo. 

I don’t know when Bravo plans to begin airing Beverly Hills but in my theory, they will premier before they green light another season of New York just to see if they even need New York anymore.  Not that I’m happy about this theory, New York is still and always will be my favorite series so I certainly hope I’m wrong, but due to Andy Cohen indicating we won’t hear anything about more New York Housewives until next year, it could be a possibility.  Does Bravo need six series of the same premise?  Watch What Happens….Annoying…by Bravo

Until Next Time…..


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676 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of DC August 20, 2010

  1. LynnNChicago says:

    Another Freebee in exchange for a tweet..Jill Zarin?

    @lucxboutique love the necklace. Thank u for inviting us to shop! See u at signing! http://twitpic.com/2gac05

    • Laura aka Just done says:


      Did u see the comment beneath the photo? Can’t wait to see u next season? Did ill spill?

      • LynnNChicago says:

        I took that as Jill visits there every season, no?

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          I thought she meant next season of RHNY. I don’t think they ever meant, after reading that comment. I could be wrong though, wouldn’t be the first time! LOL

          • Night Light says:

            look at the other pic with the lady in blue read that caption. she mentions alex and simon. do you think she’s following kelly’s pr101?

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      I think the individual who posted the comment is assuming that Jill will be back on RHONY next season. IF Jill was invited back for next season, I don’t think she would say anything about it publicly.

  2. Alana's Cat says:

    Not sure what Bravo’s game is regarding delaying the decision on RHONY. But I can tell you one thing – RHONY has a different audience than the other RH shows. Many of us only watch NY. I am speculating but I would also guess the NY audience has a higher income and higher education, too. So while we may not be the biggest in terms of numbers, we do fill a specific demographic niche. For Bravo to ditch NY simply based on numbers would be short-sighted of them. Watch what happens…?

    • Zoey says:

      Is RHONY’s audience really that much smaller than the others? Wow, I’m shocked. This is really the only one that I like.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      I’m surprised by the numbers too. I thought with Kellamity’s breakdown, the numbers would have sky rocketed. Maybe that was the reason for the replay yesterday? The main reason for NJ numbers to be high was the table flip…it was talked about everywhere. Without D, what are they going to do, flip the tables at the Brownstone?

    • sophie says:

      Also very surprised. I gave up on the OC ‘ladies’ because they are boring. Never could get into Atlanta. New Jersey…eh.

      I am looking forward to Beverly Hills, as I grew up watching the two Richards sisters, and I think it’ll be interesting to see them as ‘real’ grown up people with the drama of the Hilton family added.

  3. Kat says:

    I like RHNY too. I dunno, NJ is on Mondays and on in summer, maybe that explains part of the ratings difference.

    • kats2 says:

      BINGO! Kat that is why NJ has such high ratings, there is not any competition in that slot at all. But the NJ HW up against Jersey Shore or Monday Night Football and watch the ratings take a dive. Thursday night has always been the most comptitive slot on all stations. NYC HW’s held their own.

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        @kats2 RHOA premieres on October 4, which is on a Monday night. If Bravo plans on keeping RHOA on Monday nights they are going to get killed in the ratings by Monday Night Football.

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          Yep, it’s the Monday after the auction!!! YIPPEE!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Nothing like counting down the days

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      If they put RHONJ on Thursday night against Project Runway and basic stations I’m sure we’d see lower numbers. What is NJ going up against….Man vs. Food??? Heck, M v. F is MUCH better.

  4. lillybee says:

    A few thoughts about real housewives
    Theresa wouldn’t like living in her house in Italy, after all it is used.
    As a person who loves wine, I did learn something from Tariq’s comments.
    I got a bit of understanding about Mary’s comments about beauty salons when she hosted the party for the NY stylist.

    • RIerinFL says:

      I Really loooove red wine. What was he talking about legs? I’m not trying to be snarky, I really want to know.
      My mother-in-law, who is really knowledgable about wine, invited my sister-in-law to a winery tour through Germany and Italy. I was NOT invited. I have been happily married to her oldest son 3 times as long and she hates me. I took her baby away…whatever. He’s great and I love him to death but sometimes I would say she could have him back!
      Anyway, I would love to know something about wine when the two of them get started talking about it.

  5. LynnNChicago says:

    Real Housewives of New Jersey maintained over 3 million viewers throughout the season.

    The Real Housewives of New York averaged just 1.5 until the crazy Kelly scenes then they just barely hit 2 million.

    Yes, the demographics are different, NY does have higher income and education but I’m not sure how much that comes into play when deciding on the shows that they green light. That would depend on the advertisers, if they’re playing to an age range and don’t care about the income or education, they would prefer to advertise during NJ.

    • Zoey says:

      It has to be due to the night that it airs on TV.

    • Night Light says:

      I will say only from my own experience that I kept watching RHONJ was for the table flipping scene. I didn’t realize that they were going to show that till the end. The numbers you posted were from season 1 or season 2? I don’t think they kept those numbers this season. They might of had the episode with weave pulling and the final episode with Caroline/Danielle. I just don’t care for RHONJ except Caroline. My favorite is RHONY so I hope they come back or at the very least bring back Bethenny’s show with Ramona and Alex sprinkled in.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        New Jersey numbers are from this Season #2 that is airing now, they continue to draw 3 million, I had a tough time believing it too but its true!

        • Night Light says:

          My jaw just fell to the floor!

        • IMJ says:

          Atlanta’s season 2 averaged between 2.5 and almost 3 million viewers also. Thats in the fall. I know alot of people that cant get into NY. I watch RHONY because I live in NY.

        • RIerinFL says:

          I think everyone wants to see Teresa and Joe crash and burn. Unfortunately, we know that is not going to happen this season since they claim that they didn’t know anything about their bankruptcy.

    • TVmom says:

      (Hello all, loyal lurker, de-lurking for a moment. I enjoy these blogs and the comments!)
      I may have misunderstood here, but I’m not sure that RHONY viewers are more intelligent or better educated than viewers of the other franchises. (I watch them all for the entertainment value) I also would gander that there are almost or just as many NY fans but the numbers are deceiving. Just as everyone has mentioned before, NY went up against new Thursday night shows (Grey’s, CSI, Project Runway, etc.) durning sweeps. I’m guessing most viewers watched a later airing of RHONY. (IMHO)
      Okay, back to lurking, thanks! 🙂

      • LynnNChicago says:

        That is a great point, Thursday is the night for television. It is the night that advertisers pay more for ads, when networks put their best line-up’s on the air because studies have shown that most people get paid on a Friday, therefore go shopping and spend money on Friday and Saturday. Thursday nights are the night advertisers fight for air time and will pay the most for it. If a network puts a show on Thursday night, you know they have faith in that show or it has already proven to be a ratings plus for them.

        I don’t know why Bravo chose to put RHONJ on Monday’s other than I think they knew that it didn’t really matter which night NJ was on, it would do well as it did last season. New York already had the Thursday night spot and then Bethenny’s show took the opening when NY was over. Bravo is still also considered a “young” network and is still trying to draw viewers every night of the week so I think there is still a lot of trial and error going on over there.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Sorry to post again, but I have to add that the New York viewers ARE the most educated and have more income, that is a fact, I didn’t make that up. 🙂

    • My thoughts: RHONYC was running on Thursday nights against first-run shows on the major networks. RHONJ is running on Monday nights when everything else is in re-runs. What should be looked into are the number of people TIVO’ing the shows, or watching them when they’re re-aired ad infinitum.

  6. kats2 says:

    I hate to say it and I know it won’t be a popular opinion but the Salahi’s remind me of Silex in season 1. The overbearing husband, wife taking the back seat in public and a lot of talk but not much to back it up. Silex has come a long way from S1 when they were trying to prove something vs. being the normal people they can be. I think the Salahi’s are doing the same thing, but I don’t see them correcting the course they are on, this show combined with all their other antics IMO is going to ruin them for good.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      They reming me of Chewy & Juicy…all flash, no cash. She likes to shop and spend money they don’t have.

      I think with Silex, while they didn’t have a good S1, at least you got the impression that Alex was educated. Simon, a little coo coo but that’s what got them screen time. I didn’t see the arrogance in Simon that I see in Tarik.

      • Night Light says:

        I agree with kats2 and I did like Silex this last season but that first season was too much. but the Salahi’s are Silex X10 in trying to hard.

      • kats2 says:

        True but there was something creepy about Simon in S1 and Tareq gives me the same vibe. Simon has come a long way and I’m happy Alex has found her voice on the show. I haven’t read her blogs for DC yet but from what Lynn reports it sound like I’m missing much.

        • kats2 says:

          typo on Tarik’s name, just calling him Tar from now on. I’m sure someone here will come up with a clever nickname soon enough.

          • Laura aka Just done says:

            For me, I think Simon was trying to be “one of the girls.” Yeah, that was creepy. Tar, on the other hand, wants the spotlight so badly, he wants to be “the only girl!” LOL 🙂

      • Quincy IL says:

        Both Simon and Alex showed off in Season 1… Remember the restaurant scene where she showed him the photo of the Met opening with the spectular train. She could have handled that better. They seemed pretentious with the Latin stuff. I know, they did look like social climbers.

        The Salahis look like grifters to me. They go to places univited and refuse to pay for parties when they accept being the host and pretend they did pay. That’s just awful.
        We also know about all of the pending litagtion against them. To me they seem more like the Curtins. The ditzy wife and the braggert husband willing to please her when he has no money.

        • Night Light says:

          Yes for as pretentious at Silex came off season 1 they paid their bills. lol But I think once they relaxed they came of very endearing.

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          @Quincy – I think they were desperately trying to fit in. I found them odd in S1, but I think they “overdid it” so they could fit in with the likes of a Countess, B, Ramona. I will not mention her name…LOL

        • Maryla says:

          There will be an upcoming scene with Michaele Salahi wherein she attends a Redskinettes reunion and plays along as if she had been an NFL cheerleader. (She wasn’t). They apparently invited the alumni of the Redskinettes to perform at a St. Louis Rams/Redskins half-time event last December. Michaele tagged along as if she had been invited — but according to several former redskin cheerleaders, she surely was NOT.

          Bravo cameras apparently tagged along and caught the whole ordeal on camera. The Redskins organization has no record of her being on the squad, and she couldn’t do the standard dance/cheer sequence to “Hail to the Redskins” — the team’s fight song!

          Read the story here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR2009120203781.html

  7. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    I’m going to go out there and say that I like RHODC. I like Mary, Stacie and I’m on the fence about Lynda. I have to say that I do like Cat too. The british can be very different than americans. They can be very blunt and very….calm. My friend from the UK would tell me that brits can be very “I’m dying and have six months to live. Can I have a cup of tea?” The Salahi’s are as bad as the Giudice’s….maybe even worse because Tareq Salahi is a bit vicious on how he goes after people i.e. overcharging marrying couples using his winery than what was quoted and then saying if they do not accept the charges (even though the credit card company flagged the outrageous amounts charged by the winery) they would cancel the wedding days away. Thank goodness for one thing, the Salahi’s have not reproduced. That is good for everyone.

    • MichellefromNY says:

      I agree. DC is growing on me. The first two episodes were ridiculously boring but now I’m getting into it.

      Tareq is a little scary. Why on earth would you have your attorney call to ensure you don’t have to pay?? its so lacking in any sort of basic manners even, not just etiquette.

      But I like michaele, I think she’s just a ditz and just soaks up whatever her arrogant husband gives her.

  8. Night Light says:

    I have a small observation on Teresa’s fashion sense that I really truly hope doesn’t sound condescending or generalizing because I have no business judging anyone. I live in the south and I am hispanic, I could always tell who just arrived in the U.S. by how they dressed. If I went to a flea market I would see these women dressed like if they were quinceneras (girls who were celebrating their sweet 15) or those old 50’s 60’s prom dresses with laced gloves. That for them IS high fashion! So when I saw the way Teresa dressed her girls I thought of those girls and women at the flea market. I don’t remember how old Teresa came over to the U.S. but it seems that her fashion didn’t mature in Jersey. But I think that’s typical if you were not born here or 1st generation. Like I said just an observation.

    • Quincy IL says:

      You could be correct. I think there is a unique sense of fashion in the Garden State, NJ. They are known for big hair and flamboyant clothing. This could also be Teresa’s dress line for little girls showing up on the show. Remember, she has threatened to start her own children’s clothing line last year.

      There have been so many party dresses for the kids in the last two seasons. I wonder if one million of the ten million dollar debt is for designer dresses for those kids.

      • Quincy IL says:

        BTW.. I went to Catholic School and I had one uniform with white blouses and red knee socks for five years. I had to wear it to Church on Sun. and the nuns decided we should wear it for graduation rather than spending money on caps and gowns as the previous class had done. That uniform was my only skirt.

        What a difference between my experience and Gia’s experiences, but then my parents always paid their bills each month.

    • babykakes says:

      the outfits Teresa dressed her brats in for the last family dinner in Italy looked to me like bad over the top costumes worn by either the gay guys in the New Orleans Mardi gras & the West Hollywood halloween party on Santa Monica Blvd. ( i live in L.A. & have seen it). and this is definately not a dis on gay guys..i have NO problem with them.

    • Meg1964 says:

      Teresa said she was born in the U.S. and Joe came over when he was 1 year old.

      We can’t even make up excuses for this tacky broad. She’s just gaudy.

  9. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    The RHONJ reunion show is going to turn into the Jerry Springer show. A physical fight broke out between Danielle and Teresa.


    • Sha2000 says:

      Maybe that’s why someone supposedly isn’t coming back?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It probably wasn’t a real fight – just another words, posturing and promises. But it makes since that these two can’t film together because of their behavior.

      • moriasheehan says:

        ratings, doncha know? i am with olivia on this, i think it is scripted, maybe even by teresa. someone (low forehead) went looking at the reunion, for a reason to blow up and IMO, it is teresa, just like her table flip, i felt that was faked, too.

  10. TEB says:

    Hi Lynn-
    I’m a long time lurker on your blog. I had a friend who attended an event in the Hampton’s last weekend. It’s the East Hampton Author’s night and they have several authors come in and you can meet them, talk to them and have them sign your book. Alex and Simon had promoted the fact that they were going to be there for a couple of weeks. Jill Zarin showed up as well.
    My friend said Jill was 20 minutes late and came with Bobby and Ginger. She never smiled except when someone asked for a photo. Apparently, she left after 10 minutes and left Bobby there with the dog to try and sell her books. My friend said he was very sweet but when they tried to talk to him the only thing he could talk about was the book: buying the book, what certain chapters of the book contain, etc. My friend said it was almost as though he was scared if he didn’t sell books that Jill would kick his ass. It was as though Jill had him on a talk-track and he did not vary from what he was supposed to say.
    I guess my question is if Jill wants to sell the book so much why didn’t she stick around to do it herself? My friend said there was only 200 people there so there is no way they could have missed Jill if she was still around. She said Jill looked miserable unless there was a camera to take a picture of her.
    Alex and Simon were there and very nice. My friend said Alex was even more beautiful in person.
    Just thought I would pass this info on to you.


    • Quincy IL says:

      Thank you and I hope you post your opinions often here.

    • jezzibel says:

      Is it too much to hope she’s miserable because its finally sunk in how much normal people dislike her?
      I know she has rabid fans, but how many copies of her book do you think they brought if any.

    • Ellabean says:

      Thank you so much for sharing this TEB. Great inside story.

      I recall seeing the pictures of that Hamptons Author Night on one of the gossip sites last week (reality tea?). There were pics posted of Jill/Bawby/ and anxiety-ridden, Ginger, peering out from Jill’s bag; then a separate nice pic of Simon and Alex. But it is so interesting to hear an inside view of what really went on.

      I was hoping that Ginger pooped in Jill’s bag.

      • Kat says:

        A link was posted here too, I think sydney did it.

      • TEB says:

        I asked my friend and she said Ginger was being held by Bobby and not in the bag. Where in the hell did Jill go? I specifically looked on all her websites before the event to see if she was going to be there b/c I knew Silex was attending. Jill made no mention of it anywhere (unusual, right). Did she leave b/c of Silex?? I tried to twitter Jill and ask but my comment didnt go through. Any twitter advice??

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jill got all skeevy when she saw Silex there and just had to leave! How does she think she would be asked back if she can’t be in the same venue with Alex?

          • TEB says:

            Twittered. Will keep you informed if she replies:
            @Jillzarin if the Hampton library event was so great, why did you show up late& only stay for 10 min? Left poor Bobby to hawk your book. 7 minutes

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thank you for sharing that TEB, fascinating. I don’t think Jill is a very happy person, well, if you were her, would you be? LOL

  11. Laura aka Just done says:

    my latest tweet to krazy kelly: @kikilet – more being charitable http://tiny.cc/f6bm1

    • jezzibel says:

      I think she’s in a up cycle about her New Jewelry line and isn’t going to engage anyone today

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        you’re probably right, isn’t it at night she crashes? Then she goes on the attack?

        • jezzibel says:

          funny thing..she never responded to my tweet from yesterday, but did’nt block me either.
          With her its hard to tell what will set her off

          • Laura aka Just done says:

            zzzt! sorry, couldn’t resist

          • Zoey says:

            Ok I know I need to ‘get a life’, but until I do…Kellamity blocked me too a while back for having the nerve to give her advice, so I just recently decided to make another Twitter name (I had an old Yahoo account I gave). Now I access again to??? Be nice? Play mind games? Ha. She has responded several times to my tweets.

            For gawd sake I need a hobby!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        she is hung over from all the manic drinking she did because Scary Island was on and it brought back crazy memories of her forced bullying session on SJVI….

    • Ellabean says:

      Oh Laura – excellent! It took me a second to get it when I clicked on your picture. But then – oh!

      You might add in a future tweet to her:

      “Charity? THIS is how it’s done.”

  12. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Kim G. taking a dig at Teresa?

    Canyon Ranch bound in Tucson AZ. The fiinest spa in the U.S. So happy to splurge & pamper myself. Not using other’s money; it’s all mine!!!
    19 minutes ago via TweetToGo

    • Quincy IL says:

      I think I read that her husband owned grocery stores. It would be interesting to know if she every worked a day in her life.

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        I doubt that she has ever worked before. She loves to brag about what she has, which is annoying. In her latest tweet, I think she was taking a shot at Teresa when she said that she wasn’t using other peoples money. I wonder if she is trying to start a “feud” with Teresa so she can get some airtime next season.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I think it was more directed at Danielle – who used Kim’s car/driver, had her pick up dinner tabs, charity event tickets, etc.

    • Ellabean says:

      As much as it might be a dig at Teresa – it’s still so crass to write that way.
      I’d rather read the eff word spelled out 50 times than that kind of blatant braggadocio.

  13. Quincy IL says:

    I am a little worried. Yesterday, squirrels got her hair chopped off. Who knows what kind of impact that could have on a squirrel? I am also concerned that Kelly Bensimon’s love of fur of all kinds including squirrel might be why our member of the Rodential class is missing. The NJ girls are after fur too. This is why I am a vegetarian and never wear fur.

  14. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @icantstandthetoxicity, it might be a dig at Danielle. Remember Kim treated Danielle to shopping sprees, fine dining, loaned her car w/driver, and threw an expensive birthday party for her. And Daniell had the nerve to say, “you’ve never done anything for me!”

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      as for Kim G. – yes, she did do those things. The woman is loaded. She didn’t do it because she wanted to do something nice for Danielle, she did it for air time. She was on a mission to become a HW

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      @TrueLifeDiva That is a good point. I didn’t think about Danielle. Kim made it a point to list all of the things that she did for Danielle. Kim reminded me of Jill when she listed everything.

    • quincyillinois says:

      Fellow followers of the I hate Jill Zarin blog by Lynn Hudson:

      We need to mend our evil ways and reach out to the very rich Kim G. Perhaps, we should change our blog title to the Faithful followers of the Beautiful (and rich) Kim G. Let’s hope we will get shopping trips too. We could use our vast collective influence on Andy and Bravo to get her more air time. In return, a dinner or a trip would be fun. Kim G, remember the goody bags. Lynn will give the number of bags we require. I hope some of that renewal skin cream from Ramona is in there because a wrinkle suddenly appeared between my eyes when I was reading about Joe’s day in court.

      Can we get the ball rolling, girls and a couple of guys?

      • Zoey says:

        I can’t go along with ‘beautiful’. Can you replace that word?

      • Kat says:

        I think any goody bag from Kim G might be suspect. I’d probably have Kelly open mine as she reacts well to such things.
        I doubt Kim offers freebies unless pappazzi or Bravo cameras are present.
        Olivia would quit us for good if we became the KimG blog!

        • Quincy IL says:

          OK, in the I hate Jill Zarin/We love Kim G blog; Olivia can play Dudley Doright, and I will be Snidley Whiplash. It won’t be that hard, we have Rocky and a pocket size Bullwinkle. I see the potential of $s here. Trust me.

  15. Squirrels says:

    OT – Chap 4 is up.

  16. Adgirl says:

    RE: Housewives NY.
    Maybe they had such a hard time with adding ccast (Je the party planner didn’t work out) that they are stalling the next season. The added benefit is it will scare the shit out of Jill and Kelly who really want to be on the show. Jill will have to lower her demands. Also, Bravo may be trying to include Bethenny who is busy right now.

  17. WindyCityWondering says:

    Any news from the courthouse? Has anyone seen Joe on the side of the highway picking up garbage??

  18. Abby Someone says:

    I think it’s a shame that the more Jerry Springer-esque a HW show is, the better the ratings. I don’t see Beverly Hills being the smack down that NJ or Atlanta stoop to, therefore it will attract viewers who can understand the subtle social warfare among the wealthy.
    Personally I find the NJ and Atlanta HW shows hard to watch, because it’s a bunch of inmates running an asylum…and I’m not just talking about Teresa’s kids. DOH

    This woman Danielle clearly has some sort of disorder. To see her sitting there with her kids who have adapted to life with a crazy drama queen is painful to witness.

    I hope the Beverly Hills version, although I cringe to think they will have the stereotypical stage mother, will be more like the kind of crazy I can respect in a reality show. You know, the envy, the gossip, the person we love to hate, the hawking of products, the pretend luxurious life-style, and the no talent singer. All of the egos with none of the sad, off meds straight jacket type behavior.

    • babykakes says:

      radaronline is reporting that the reunion show for rhonj was so violent that the producers had to intervene between Teresa & Danielle…can’t wait!

  19. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Re: Kim Granny’s tweet. I had a friend like Danielle once. She cried about how hard things were and every week had a new calamity. As time went on nothing changed. She couldn’t keep a job more than 90 days and it was due to sabotage or someone “showing their true colors”. I drove her everywhere she needed to go. I paid when we went out to eat. I got her into clubs, concerts, and movies for free. When she got on her feet she still expected me to support her in this manner. When she got a high paying job I asked her to start paying 1/2 price for hair services (I’m a hairdresser/makeup artist) she told me “As much bank as you make, you should be doing my hair for free forever!) I’m not rich, not even close. I made a modest living (semi retired) and being self employed is a financial rollercoaster. When I decided to take a break from doing hair… Guess who stopped calling me? I totally relate to Kim G. in regards to Danielle. She may have been wanting screen time but I do think she thought Danielle was simply missunderstood in the begining.

    • quincyillinois says:

      I have a number of friends who accept my gifts of lunch all of the time too. I don’t mind because I love being with them. Relatives always expect me to pay and to give nice gift when they know I won’t drive 300 miles for a piece of a kid’s birthday cake. I call it distribution of the wealth/socialism and I think that President Obama would be proud of me.

      • TrueLifeDiva says:

        Not sure if you were being sarcastic or missed the point of my post entirely. If I have, I give generously. If you are my friend you give as well as take. I did mention that at one point this friend was doing well financially but yet still expected me to pay, chauffer, etc. Never reached for the bill at lunch, offered to driveher car, or even tip me when she received free services at the salon I worked at. When a friendship becomes one sided, resentment will set in. I think Kim G. offered Danielle entry into her world with good intentions but became upset at Danielle’s sense of entitlement. You don’t have to be a Kim fan to see Danielle used her.

    • Kat says:

      When I was working I could be very generous, maybe to a fault.
      Now that I’m not working if I can’t afford to pay for myself I make an excuse not to go out.

  20. Buffalo says:

    Love your blogs Lynn! And reading everyones comments. I am in the minority with you, I like Cat. She definitely has that blunt personality that can come across rude but I don’t think she means it at all. We will see where it goes I guess. I like everyone except the Salahi’s, obviously. I just hope we don’t have to hear the race card being brought up every episode by Stacie or one of her family and friends.

    And I just don’t get it with the ratings!!! I’ll be honest, I’m young, 24 and I don’t think as educated as some of you witty ladies on here ; ) but NYC is absolutely my favorite show. When NJ ended last season with higher ratings I was shocked. Atlanta is ok. And how can NYC be in trouble but not OC?!?! I don’t think I relate to any of the OC wives anymore.

    • Kat says:

      I am poor by any standard and do not have a degree. I also like NY.
      I think the ratings difference is due to the different day of the week and season that NY/NJ air.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Kat, I can see that you are extremely intelligent. Believe in yourself and take chances.

        • Kat says:

          Quincy, thank you very much. Your opinion means a lot to me. You choose words carefully and you aren’t glib, you mean what you say. Thanks again.
          I’m disabled after 2 back surgeries. I just don’t see many options or potential for taking chances. However I love to learn.

    • Bosandi says:

      New York was/is my favorite housewives show so I was also shocked about the NJ ratings. Perhaps as mentioned upthread (is that the word?), the NY wives come off as too snooty? Maybe middle America is more comfortable with the more obvious trainwrecks? I dunno…

      I’ve been trying to pay more attention to the DC ladies b/c I see some likable qualities in all of them. Note I said ladies. The salami woman is puppet controlled by the evil puppet master Tarik. She’s probably clueless to what’s really going on with her husband and their reputation.

      Mary reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry meets a woman who only looks good in certain lighting and was a complete hag in others. Mary isn’t as bad as that but she looks incredibly girlish in some shots and then looks her age in others. Kudos to her either way.

      My face hurts every time I look at Lynda but I can’t help but laugh when I think of the “goat rodeo.”

      Cat is in a vulnerable situation – new country, new friends, new husband who’s never around. I’ll cut her some slack but let it be known joke or otherwise that I didn’t care for the colored comment to Paul. Just b/c a gay black man with blond hair gives you a ghetto pass doesn’t mean you’re not racist. It means he needs more airtime for the show. I like him (love his skin) but I see a little Luann in him. Now, I’m not saying Cat is a racist but there are some cultural adjustment issues here. I’d love to hear HD’s thoughts (HD are you lurking????).

      Lastly, Stacie. I like her and maybe her friend is the pot stirrer, maybe not. Time will tell. Who knows what transpired off camera b/t those two. As much as Stacie loves to talk about the Obama era and Mary’s integrated salon (lol) maybe Stacie is a little uncomfortable being the only black woman on the show so she brings her pot stirring friend along for backup.

      Okay just my thoughts – sorry it’s too long!

      • Ellabean says:

        Great post Bosandi ! Wow, I’ve been trying to describe Mary’s face – and couldn’t find the right words. YOU ! just nailed it. I so remember that Seinfeld episode. Thx!

        And your post was not too long at all – very good summary of the DC wives.

  21. Squirrels says:

    I’m having Kelly withdrawal. I haven’t looked at her tweets all day. I’m trying to stay strong.

    • quincyillinois says:

      It’s better than being in the belly of the whale.

    • Abby Someone says:

      oh you missed some entertainment squirrel. lol If ever there is a day to fall off the kiki tweet wagon this is it. I never use to read her tweets but now I read them for the laugh.

      Highlight alert: She describes herself as “super conservative”. Putting aside for the moment that once again Kelly is telling us who she is, unless you are 13 OR have super powers, I don’t think you should ever describe yourself as super anything but that’s just me, and is does it escape anyone that her wardrobe does not scream conservative. Maybe she doesn’t know what that word means since she makes up her own words.

      Yep, Kiki can add “language inventor” to that long list of B.S. claims on her resume because she makes up her own words. I asked her what “berade” means. She used that word in a tweet yesterday aaaaand I’m thinking she thinks it’s a real word. She did not answer. I’m sure she found my little inquiry “cute”. With all the products these women hawk you think someone would create the Kiki to English dictionary.

      Kiki also says “sex is not a game”. You can enjoy sex AND be safe. Gee thanks for comin down off the mountain with that message Mohammed. I wonder how many lives she saved today with that important new information. You know, she said on one of her videos she is obsessed with the 70s. Maybe that is why she tweets like an ABC afterschool special.

      I told Kiki that since no one I knew said her dog was a chief, I believed she was a squaw. She replied that she was a squaw and that was “cute”. Hmm I wonder if kiki thinks my tweets are as cute as arthritis.

      • Squirrels says:

        I’m still laughing as I type this. That comment was over the top FUNNY!

      • Zoey says:

        I saw the ‘berade’ also, and the ‘super conservative’. All I could think of was the shirts she wears as dresses, and is reported to often not wear underwear under these!!! Conservative???

        Getting a Kell-ache again! She makes my head hurt!

        • jezzibel says:

          I read that tweet and I think she meant berate(loking at te context of the tweet), she’s a horrible speller…not twitter bad, just a horrible speller. I am worried that I can generally figure out what she is on about and I’ve only had a twitter account for about a week.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Squirrels–I’ll take care of your withdrawals. You know how much I luv to snark on her.

  22. Wall St Lady says:

    Something regularly makes me flinch so I thought I would put that out there.
    When I was a child my father sometimes would correct me when I called a stranger a lady. He would say she is a woman till u know she is a lady. So that stuck w/me. It is a privilege to be called a lady & Missy Salamied & Trasha DO NOT deserve that honor.

  23. Laura aka Just done says:
    • Laura aka Just done says:

      OMG, I want to spit…they not only took away the community service, they changed all of the fines. He gets his license back in October instead of March 2010. His fines were also reduced. ONLY IN NEW JERSEY…oh how I hate this state.

      • dumberries says:

        It’s too disappointing for words. If I was the original sentencing judge, I’d be fuming. So here’s a run down of this week:
        1. Giudices succeed in getting the auction postponed and some items taken off the list.
        2. Teresa succeeds in getting George Lopez to change his skit after insulting him publicly.
        3. Juicy succeeds in getting his DWI penalties greatly reduced.

        Score: Giudices 3, The Right/Fair Thing: 0

    • Squirrels says:

      Oh brother. This dude is slippery.

    • dumberries says:

      Oops, posted downthread before I saw this post. No community service either – unbelievable…

      • Zoey says:

        Why don’t we all email the judge?

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          too late, decision has been made. I’ve tweeted her a couple of times, the last time telling her that she and her husband better stay out of my neighborhood. I like my streets safe

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Maybe the judge should watch RHONJ so he can see that Joe always seems to have a drink in his hand even when he’s climbing a hill in Italy.

      • NormaJean says:

        Let me say right off the bat that I’m not defending Juicy Joe or the judge, but he got a stiffer penalty then he would have in PA. Here a first time DUI with his BAL gets 30 day license suspention, 24 hours community service, about 16 hours in an alcohol intervention class, and fines (not sure how much those are).

  24. TEB says:

    I am watching RHDC because I live in the area and work in DC. I am not personally involved in politics, but I do have friends who are deeply involved in politics. I never discuss what they do with non mutual friends. That is how DC works and that is how you stay friends with them.
    I watch RHDC b/c I want to see what they are showcasing our city is about (and I’ve watched RHNY for years).

    • quincyillinois says:

      Since you are in DC, have you every heard of any of these movers and shakers before?

      • TEB says:

        I heard of the Salahi’s (around the time of the WH fiasco) because years ago she worked a makeup counter with my good friends Mother (aka Mama G). Mama G said that Michaele was ANNOYING and became even more so after meeting Tareq. Apparently, it’s not just the nerves of having the cameras around….
        Mary Amons does some good community work and is somewhat connected because of the fame of her grandfather. Never heard of Stacy or Cat (but they probably havent heard of me either 😉 I’m still trying to dig up some info on Lynda.

        • quincyillinois says:

          Interesting. Changing your station in life is a good thing, but marrying a guy who owes everyone money is unwise.
          She is 44, but acts like a child. I think that is odd. The name of her horse is Sparkles? I suspect that horse has had a name for a long time go with that name, for heaven’s sake.

  25. Earring Girl says:

    I have not posted in a while because most of the topics have been on NJ housewives and I really cannot stand them, but the posts have been interesting and entertaining to read.

    I have been watching DC housewives since I am a DC resident and I think the show will eventually have some interesting moments. At this time most of the DC viewers I have spoken with really have issues with Cat and the hate for the Salahi’s has never stopped since they showed up at the White House last year.

    Here is an open letter to Cat from another Brit –


    • Squirrels says:

      Great read. Thanks for posting it.

    • TEB says:

      Earring Girl-
      Totally agree on the Salahi’s. She was not well liked by the people she did makeup with (before she was Mrs. Salahi). She is difficult to watch.
      I havent formed a strong opinion on Cat yet. I think she has the potential to be funny instead of abrasive. Perhaps watching herself on TV will help develop that skill?

      • Earring Girl says:

        About Cat – lets hope so, she is not making me feel warm and fuzzy.

        That “Salahi-Haw” woman just seems so over the top and crazy to me. Bravo said they could not cut her because they had started taping before the white house crime and she was in so many scenes – okay does that mean they will not be invited back next year?

  26. dumberries says:

    I just don’t understand this – really makes me mad. Joe succeeded in having his penalty reduced and will not serve community service. Sucks – I thought he’d gotten off easy with the original sentence…

    • Squirrels says:

      Boggles the mind, doesn’t it?

      • dumberries says:

        It sure does Squirrels. I’m a Libra; injustice bothers me more than most things. The scales are not in balance with these grifters! I’m just gonna put it out of my mind…

        • quincyillinois says:

          Can we agree that connections are a wonderful thing?

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          a fellow Libra? It burns me too because I actually believed in the justice system (at one time).

        • vilzvet says:

          Well if it’s any consolation I’m sure his insurance (he better get it or else I’ll never drive in Jersey) is going to be sky-high. And didn’t they lose the Escalade? Wonder how she’s toting around the kids, minivan, perhaps?

      • Earring Girl says:

        I am really upset about this, I lost my friends to a drunk driver -the mother, father, two young girls and the baby boy survived. I don’t get this ”inconsequential” violations???? I guess when Drunk Joe takes out a “family on the road” he will go to jail. This is effing unbelievable!!!! This statement just boggles my mind –

        “But the judge — who has handled thousands of DWI cases in his past 20-year career as a municipal court judge — said many of Giudice’s driving record points and suspensions over the years were based on ”inconsequential” violations. They include, he said, failure to pay parking tickets, failure to maintain lamps, speeding, not wearing a seatbelt, and using his cell phone while driving. ”

        While not condoning any of Giudice’s actions or his record, the judge said he believed the penalties were too harsh but he warned him not to make the mistake of drunken driving again.

        • dumberries says:

          What the heck does this judge consider consequential?! Unpaid parking tickets themselves are not really a safety issue. But, the combination of Juicy’s repeated violations is an accident waiting to happen (again). Juicy speeds, talks on the phone while driving, doesn’t buckle up (and probably doesn’t ensure his passengers do), doesn’t make sure his safety “lamps” are working, drives drunk, crashes a car, and leaves the scene. I can’t think of a scarier combination to have on the road. Okay, thanks for letting me vent.

        • ShyAsrai says:


          the judge is nuts. there is nothing inconsequential about dangerous driving habits.

          a friend of mine has been a police officer for years: he has mentioned to me “how many times does someone drive drunk vs. how many times they get caught driving drunk (or under some influence)?” it’s some unbelievable number (i’d have to check).

          this is why it’s SO important for ajudication to be harsh each and every time someone is caught.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          According to previous press reports, doesn’t Juicy’s driving record include having his license suspended repeatedly? Totalling up to about 9 years cumulatively? Doubt all those license suspensions were for “inconsequential” violations.

        • So this “judge” thinks that repeatedly & flagrantly violating traffic laws is “inconsequential.” I call BULLSHIT & wonder just how much the MAFIA MANZOS paid the judge for that ruling.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      WOW, all drunk drivers, move to New Jersey! Illinois would have read him the riot act! I really thought that judges were taking drunk driving seriously, apparently not in Jersey.

      • housewifehater says:

        OH-now I found it! Yeah, so the insurance penalty in NJ is really the worst part of a DUI. I think it is at least a thousand, per year for three years mandatory, (for some reason I’m thinking the 1500-range), PLUS the general insurance rate goes-up for I think 7 years.

      • Waslurking says:

        This is UNREAL to me… I don’t get it!!!!!
        Here in AZ it’s mandatory jail time for first offense, big time $$ in fines, and mandatory alcohol classes/counseling. Many years ago I had a friend that got her second DUI in five years, it had been “almost” five years but that did not matter….she had to do 90 days in jail, period.
        With Joe’s driving record, totaling his vehicle, and leaving the scene of the accident………oh boy! He’d have been doing some long days in pink undies in tent city!!
        Also ANY DUI is a felony here……period!
        … needless to say I am flabbergasted…. wow!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Karma is a bitch and she’s got Joe’s number…..next time the trees win!

      • kats2 says:

        I’m so mad about this. It’s not fair at all. They are getting away with far too much. I’d like to hit them where it hurts the most and start a petition to get them off the show. I’m also going to try to contact MADD and see if they have a local chapter in NJ that we can leverage. I’m kind of sick of just sitting back and watching them get away with breaking the law.

  27. lillybee says:

    I can’t wait to see Theresa in an apartment over the pizza place.

    • dumberries says:

      I’m with you lilybee! But, given the events of this week, I’m worried that the Giudices are made of teflon and may actually succeed in getting their “fresh start” bankruptcy granted (debts erased).

  28. AZ Girl says:

    Teresa’s blog is up over at Bravo.com and it begins with denouncing all the “lies” in the press about their bankruptcy. Further down she disses Caroline for being “crabby” on the trip to Italy. She mentions that if Caroline did not feel well she should have stayed home with Dina. Way to go Teresa. Caroline has had your back. Something must have happened on the reunion show between them. Andy does mention that Caroline and Danielle sat next to each other during the taping of the reunion. We now know there was a altercation between Teresa and Danielle.

    Juicy Joe tries driving drunk in AZ I can guarantee he would put in jail overnight, lose is license for 6 months and the fines would be about $5,000.00. They don’t mess around when it comes to drunk driving here.

    • quincyillinois says:

      NJ must be a den of iniquity.

    • dumberries says:

      Thanks for the heads-up on the Bravo blog AZ Girl! Teresa continues to be the biggest liar and ass-coverer – just incredible. Caroline must have finally called her out. This week she failed to acknowledge Caroline when announcing joint appearances on twitter, and then she insults Caroline in her blog. Twit!

      BTW: Good that AZ takes drunk driving so seriously. Here in California, Juicy would be toast too…

      • AZ Girl says:

        The $5,000 fines do not include paying for mandatory counseling and your attorney’s fees. First offense runs about $7,000.00. Second offense you lose your license for a year and the fines double. Believe it or not there are still idiots that drink and drive here.

      • JenD says:

        I agree…there is definitely something going on between these two. They both failed to acknowledge each other. She definitely went after Caroline on that blog.

    • Waslurking says:

      oops….. should have scrolled before I jumped in. You got that right AZ Girl, DUI’s are no joke here! And I forgot about the suspended license part in my little rant up thread.

  29. Wall St Lady says:

    There is always a silver lining. This decision hopefully will cause Juicy & Trasha to b overly confident for the Bankruptcy court hearing & think their crimes don’t count.J&T’s lawyer whined that Juicy was mistreated because they are so famous (pass me the trash can !)
    Since I have spoken to the bankruptcy trustee I can promise he is UNIMPRESSED w/ their fame. He seems to believe it is all the more reason to make an example that grifters r not welcome in NJ. So this could b a good thing cuz now they r relaxed & won’t b prepared for being (rightly) AMBUSHED !

    • quincyillinois says:

      Some people have the ability to do harm and not feel guilty. I suspect Teresa and Joe have this gift.

    • Earring Girl says:

      I hope they are “back-doored” to a jail cell!

      • dumberries says:

        Earring Girl, thanks for sharing your story up thread. I can appreciate your frustration with slaps on the wrist for drunk drivers. Very sorry you and your friend lost loved ones needlessly. While WSL may have a point about the G’s getting overly confident and possibly letting down their guard on the bankruptcy issues, I’m afraid the penalty for his DWI is so lax that he will be also be overly confident about his ability to continue to put lives at risk with his reckless driving in the future. I sure hope he really gets the seriousness this time, before another family is tragically affected.

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          and that’s the reason behind my tweet telling them to stay out of my town.

          • Earring Girl says:

            @Dumberries – Thanks for the kind words. I guess things happen in life and there is always a sliver lining in the tragic. The baby boy that survived that horrific accident was adopted by his mother’s sister who had been married for about a year and ended up not being able to have children of her own. The boy is now 6, he is such a special child and has a great family.

            • dumberries says:

              I’m so glad he was lucky enough to have an aunt to take care of him! What a blessing for both….

        • kats2 says:

          They don’t have to worry the one person they are paying is their attorney and they obviously have a good one.

  30. Kelly says:

    Lynn, if ratings were the deal breaker, why would Bravo air “The Rachel Zoe Project”? That gets even lower ratings than RHONYC, doesn’t it? What do you think?

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Maybe sponsors and the demographics. Lower production costs. Also occasional glimpses of real “stars.” A combination of factors, is my guess. FWIW.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Ratings are always the deal breaker, ratings equal ads and ads equal money for the networks, their only source of income. I haven’t seen the numbers for Rachel Zoe but assuming they are lower, maybe she had a 2 yr contract (or longer) or maybe the numbers improved toward the end of the season and Bravo was hoping to grow that, I dont really know.

      TV networks can only go by ratings, thats all they’ve got.

  31. Earring Girl says:

    This woman is just skany, low class and trashy!!

    From Trashy Tre’s Bravo blog:

    “And yes, of course I know what a bidet is. I just don’t call it by its American
    name: “bih-DAY.” It’s an Italian thing, so I call it by its Italian name. In any
    case, I’m kind of glad we don’t use those anymore. My chuckalina definitely
    doesn’t need a douche!”

    Eww . . . Wayyyyy TMI !!!!!

  32. jillz68 says:

    Can someone help me out with something from a couple shows back? Re vase-gate, didn’t Jac’s mother admit she knocked it over and Jac sent a tweet that yes, they did offer to pay? Someone on another site is telling I am wrong and that the Guidice kids knocked it over and keeps telling me I need to watch again. I have seen this bleeding episode several times and while they don’t show said vase get knocked over I would be surprised the mother would take the blame. I know I sure wouldn’t. I found the tweet and posted it but she keeps telling me I am wrong. The nerve (joking!)! Ain’t I nice?

    Thanks a million!

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      Jacqueline’s mother broke it. They actually did a replay as to how it happened. The kids were in another room. Whether or not they offered to pay, I’m not sure. Jacq might have written that in her blog.

    • Earring Girl says:

      @Boston – Jill sound like Bravo might not invite her back. 🙂

    • dumberries says:

      Thx for the link! Can’t believe Zarin is still trying to suggest that her friendship ended because Bethenny didn’t share as much as she did.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Of course, Bravo will ask Bethenny back to NYC RH. She’s the golden child. What if she said that she will come back if Kelly and Jill were fired? Perhaps, that is the decision Bethenny was unable to sleep over a few days ago. Bethenny wouldn’t have to work as hard or show as much about her life and would still have the exposure that helps sell the books and liquor with an ensemble cast at NYC.

      She is suffering if she has to make a decision and can’t sleep. Jason would not want Jill to be a part of their lives and he has little tolerance for Kelly.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      I see Jill’s back to her “I do it [RHONY] for the fans” BS.

      Yeah, that’s why she flings herself in front of a camera at every opportunity. It’s for her fans.

      As her sister Lisa said, JZ has an intense desire to be famous. Even if that means hanging out for photo ops with the likes of the ever fabulous and classy Teresa, and Patti S.

      Oh, yeah, and all those “supportive” fans posting at Jillz’ website….how many of them are really Jill? I remember when one of J’s vigorous defenders…either at facebook or J’s website IIRC…slipped up and went from speaking about J in the third person to the first person, arguing: “I was popular in high school.” Sad, really.

    • lillybee says:

      It is sad that Mommy said that to Jill, it is all about Jill. Nice dig, mom

      • Need a Hobby says:

        ooh, you’re right: “Gloria: ‘It always comes back to you, doesn’t it, Jill?'”

        I missed that when I first glanced at the article.

  33. julieintexas says:

    I posted this on last blog didn’t know you had a new blog up yet:

    Teresa is the lowest on the totem pole – lower than any other housewife (including Jill)! I find myself rooting for Danielle if anyone can believe that! I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that Caroline defends and makes excuses for this moronic criminal! I mean really what did Danielle do so bad to the Manzo MOB family that is even remotely close to what Teresa and her husband has done to hard working Americans????? Oh that’s right Dina hated her so Caroline and her bullies did everything they could to destroy a this woman! And Jaq needs to control her demon seed – she stalks and harasses this woman daily (facebook twitter blogs)! Jaq could control her (taking away everything) but let’s face it she secretly loves the drama /hate her daughter spews!

    Also, what the hell is up with New Jersey – I cannot believe what T & J get away with! The Manzo family must have a lot of pull with the criminal justice system in New Jersey! You can steal $11 million, drink and drive, flip tables, chase somebody through a country club, pull someone’s hair, harass and slander people’s names and all you get is a slap on the wrist. Here in Texas you might just be put on death row – stat!

    • dumberries says:

      I wish the Giudices could be deported to Texas! Definitely a state that’s tough on crime…

      • AZ Girl says:

        “Deported to Texas” like Texas is a foreign country HA! That is great. Can you see T & J and their girls roaming around the panhandle yelling at each other dressed in those crazy outfits.

        • Quincy IL says:

          Actually, those dresses would fit in the the cowboy saloon decor of some of the bars we visited in AZ.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Actually I lived in TX for many years, as great a place as it is (really is), sadly drinking & driving is common place. Many think nothing about grabbing a beer & drinking it in the car or drinking on the way to a party. I do believe that’s why MADD’s headquarters is in Las Colinas (aka Irving) TX. They need to get tougher on drinking & driving in TX.

      • Squirrels says:

        No way Teresa would live in Texas. Someone might lasso her and make her pull a chuck-a-lina wagon.

        • dumberries says:


          • julieintexas says:

            lol – Teresa would be in the Women’s prison in Gatesville and her kids could hang out with my parents – they have a wood shed in the back yard! Send TrAshley too! It make take a time or two in the shed, but I promise TrAshley would absolutely GET IT!

            • jezzibel says:

              If Juicy Joe got pulled over for DUI/DWI by the Selma PD….no sir he would be done, none of this glovebox defense nonsense. 30 days in Jail 30 days community service and no licenses for 3-6 yrs depending on the mood of the judge..and thats getting of lightly.

        • Sha2000 says:

          She would fit in w/the big hair but she’ll need to dye it blond & start saying things like y’all & fixing to. Houses are way bigger there too, but a lot less than NJ.

          • jezzibel says:

            That would work in West Texas, but contrary to popular belief, the State Capital Austin is quite posh, San Antonio is getting to be very cosmopolitan(we have museums and paved roads). Dallas/Ft Worth is a massive metroplitan sprawl.
            The insanely rich have homes between Austin and SA up around Travis lake/ Canyon Lake, the Hill Country and enclaves like the Dominion.

            • Sha2000 says:

              I lived in the Dallas Metroplex for 12 years, absolutely LOVED it , but you better have your hair done & your make-up on to throw out the trash : )

            • Bosandi says:

              You guys are forgetting that Houston is the 4th largest city in the US – right behind Chicago. G.H. Bush has a home near Rice Univ. – definately not an area for posers or grifters.

              Not like I want Teresa anywhere near me but the Houston med center is one of the best in the world. She could get a forehead transplant!

              • dumberries says:

                Lol – forehead transplant!
                I think Texas is unfairly stereotyped on tv shows. But, NJ is getting the worst of it. The NJ-based reality shows seem to be scouting out people who most encompass the over-the-top stereotype…

        • Ellabean says:

          Saturday morning here – catching on all of late friday. THIS.I must acknowledge!

          Squirrels – LMAO !!!! (morning coffee almost spewed computer screen). Thx for my first laugh of the day. 🙂

  34. LynnNChicago says:

    Cat from DC slamming the Salahi’s (or however you spell it)

  35. Squirrels says:

    Geez. Here is another version of the Joe uses his get out of jail free card.

    “Today, Superior Court Judge Philip Maenza, sitting in Morristown, agreed with Giudice and overturned the maximum sentence. Maenza imposed the minimum penalties of a seven-month license suspension, $300 fine and 12 hours of driver-education, and eliminated the community service and ignition device requirements.”

    This is the first time I read anything about an ignition device. Now it all makes sense. He wants to be able to continue drinking and driving.


    • julieintexas says:

      Maybe when he kills himself or somebody else, the State of New Jersey will wake up! I can’t believe the citizens of this state are not enraged at these people! Somebody needs to start asking some hard questions! I vote Bryant Gumble start doing some investigative reporting – I can guarantee he will find some dirt and maybe these people will brought down before someone gets hurt! I am rewatching the country club scene right now (god help me) and no wonder why Danielle brings a body guard around these people – they are maniacs! Still Caroline is still making excuses for these people!

      • dumberries says:

        If this made it to HLN, Nancy Grace would beat Juicy to a pulp…

        • julieintexas says:

          yes yes – i change my vote – Nancy Grace – or that other chick that talks just like her but has dark hair!

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      I personally think the ignition device is the greatest thing ever created. They have to pay for it, and they have to pay the annual service fee for it’s use. I believe it’s necessary.

    • dumberries says:

      Wow, I don’t remember ever hearing about an ignition device either. I wish the judge would have left that requirement in place for him, indefinitely. Travesty.

      Now, Juicy’s glove-box witness was his “friend”. Not his dad, not his dad’s friend, not the neighbor from a couple of blocks up. Another version. Well, that doesn’t matter much. The mystery witness was found “totally unreliable and deceptive” and Juicy was convicted of DWI. I’m so glad the first judge in the case seems to have some common sense; the appellate judge’s decisions and comments are highly suspicious to me.

      My last comment on this subject (I promise!), Juicy didn’t leave the scene and then call the police. Someone else called the police – I wondered about that. Betchya he was on the phone trying to get someone with a tow truck to come move the wreckage before anyone called it in….

      Good article Squirrels – thanks for posting….

  36. Quincy IL says:

    Since the subject of race has come up in DC so often, I would like to share something with everyone. As you know scientists have been mapping the Human genome and they no longer use race when it comes to the Human beings on Earth at this time.

    “Races were once considered human subspecies, but genetic research shows that inherited differences do not accurately match common racial divisions. For example, since non-Africans are descended from a small population that emigrated from Africa about 100,000 years ago, non-Africans (even those representing difference races) are more closely related to each other than Africans are to each other.”

    This means the people of various tribes in Africa like the pigmies (very short) and the Watusi (very tall) are more genetically distinct that people from France and China.

    There are no races when it comes to the Human genome. Good too know, right?

    Could someone let the people in DC have this information asap?

    • jezzibel says:

      what I cannot understand is all that hate and discontent over melanin…we all produce it to varying degrees…but for a bunch of deuterostomates what can you expect

    • Kat says:

      When I was a kid in school I was taught skin color was just a visible result of melanin content, I knew in my heart we were all the same and that confirmed it for me. To me it’s ignorant to allow race to factor into any decision.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I wish it was as simple as skin color. It’s much more than that. Skin color and cultural differences gave people the excuse they needed as “civilized” man to subjugate other human beings. Even while slave traders and owners were insisting that Africans weren’t fully human there were people who knew differently and who did everything they could to disuade people intent on expoliting their brothers and sisters. Yet it continued for hundreds of years. Even after Emancipation the Aryan concept was being touted by the likes of President Theodore Roosevelt. Many scholars of his day wrote books about the white mans divine mandate to conquere and rule non whites. Hitler didn’t invent the concept of Aryan superiority. Our massacre of Filipinos is virtually untaught in our schools yet it bordered on genocide.
        Racism is a complicated issue but too many crimes have been committed to expect it to go away soon, if ever.

        • Kat says:

          I agree racism is complicated.
          I believe some cultures enslaved there own members long before America was born. Humans mistreating humans is part of the history of us.
          But looking, being or acting different than the majority has been used by the majority as a reason to justify abuse and ill treatment. It is ignorance. It is fear. It is prejudice.

        • Kat says:

          Mamaz I want to add, I read your post on this subject a blog or 2 back and I agree with your points.

    • Squirrels says:

      My parents were one of the first mixed marriages in Boston’s Chinatown post WWII. Needless to say, it was not a popular move. Still, when my father passed away, he was a full fledged member of the Wong clan. This came to be not because he was a fun loving, good guy. It was because throughout their 49 year, 9 month marriage, he proved daily that he loved my mother. A more selfless person I have yet to meet. Apparently, my mother had many prejudice problems in our little town in Massachusetts, but she never said a word to us and we skipped merrily along as we grew up as one of two asian families. I didn’t discover her troubles until I was well into my 30’s.

      Now days, our little clan is comprised of so many mixed marriages it’s hard to keep up. And all because my mother and father refused to give up. That’s my take on it anyway.

      • jezzibel says:

        My grandparents adopted my Uncle Kiet, he survived the fall of Saigon and made it to a boat. When he got to California he was paired to a host family and adopted. The color of my skin does not matter he is my uncle, his children are my cousins, and his wife is my aunt in law, and his teases me about being born in Japan.

      • Quincy IL says:

        My kid were half Iranian/Quarter Irish/Quarter English… they tanned darker in summer than my two nieces who where African American/ Quarter Irish/Quarter English. In our family, race hasn’t been important in 35 years. My kids and their cousins are family.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Mine too Quincy. Half Egyptian & 1/4 Italian, they get the best golden tans; I’m day glow white no matter how hard I try, lol.

          • Quincy IL says:

            My sons are over 6 ft and their dad is 5’3″. The size comes from Irish peasants. LOL

            • Kat says:

              Considering the smaller non-African genetic pool, it may not be Irish related at all. 😉
              If I understood your post correctly.

              • MAMAZ says:

                I have tried to reply 3 times and I keep getting kicked off the page.
                Same MamaZ different quilt square because I’m on my laptop.
                Kat – You’re right that humans have been mistreating each other since time began. It’s discouraging to think it’s been going on so long. I think it’s mostly about greed. Those with the most to gain manipulate the natural fear we have of the unfamiliar to encourage prejudice.

      • Zoey says:

        What a great story, and what strong parents you have. The fact that they didn’t talk about it constantly or involve you says a lot about their character.

    • klmh says:

      Very interesting post. Thanks

      • MAMAZ says:

        If anyone’s interested I recommend watching A Class Divided on http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/
        Many of you are probably already aware of the program but it’s worth viewing again. It always moves me to tears.

        There is also a great documentary called Paper Clips. Put it on your NetFlix list. It’s a marvelous film.

  37. Dwight Schrute says:

    I like Paul Wharton and cannot stand the Salahi’s. I was familiar with them before they gate-crashed because Tariq’s attempt to wrestle control of the winery from his parents had been in the news.

    I can’t believe I’m going to do this but I’m going to defend the Salahis on the party expenses. I thought it was in extremely poor taste of Paul to ask them to give him an extravagant birthday party and expect them to pick up the tab (especially when there are already stories about them leaving a string of unpaid bills). Apparently he had Lynda give him a party the previous year but was unhappy that it was so small. They went on an on about the Salahis not wanting to pay but they never mentioned who actually DID pay. If it was Paul you know it would have been brought up to him prior to the event. That said, the white stretch limo, the police escort, the toast, the sabering of the champagne were completely over the top.

    Lynn, the Reliable Source column at the Washington Post is a great resource on all things RHODC. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/ You asked why the Salahis did not have wine in their barn when they had the polo lesson. Well like all things in the house of cards that are the Salahis, the lesson wasn’t on their property.

    It’s been well documented that the house shown on the show is not their real home. They live in a subdivision. I had thought it took place at the winery but apparently not. In today’s Reliable Source they go into a lot about the different places where the show has filmed and the scenes of the horseback riding and polo lessons were filmed at Destination Polo in Middleburg, VA, which is about 30 – 35 miles from both the Salahi home in Hume or Oasis Winery in Front Royal.

    At least tonight we got a scene in Paris with Stacey and Michaele WITHOUT Tariq. Tariq has to be in every scene and won’t let her speak. He just takes over everything. If he threw a glass of wine at Lynda after he saw the promo for the premier episode where she refers to him as “second tier” (which she explains in her blog), imagine what he’ll do at the reunion after everything else she’s said.

    • Quincy IL says:

      I thought it was odd that he served beer and going up to the house would be hard to do. I guess it’s like Jill’s rented house and the houses in foreclosure of so many other Bravo stars… all a shame. We shouldn’t be surprised by this information. Bravo is very dishonest and not worthy of our trust.

    • Earring Girl says:

      I noticed last night how Tariq kept talking about her weight since she married him and he was talking loud for Linda to hear him – I thought that was sort of scary, it was like he wanted Linda to say something -a very uncomfortable feeling for the other guests I would think.

      I have seen Paul around and about at a few social events I have attended, he seems like a very fun loving person and people really seem to like him. I think the show is going to pick up more interest as it goes along, I think most viewers have gotten use to all of the “over-the-top” drama such as flipping tables, flipping-out in St. John, V.I., chasing scenes in country clubs, hair pulling and throwing napkins at each other. DC is low-keyed and most people follow the rule of “don’t get mad – get even” here and that “getting even” can mean getting a job, invite to a party/dinner, house and even a loan at a bank because it is not what you know it’s who you know.

      • Quincy IL says:

        The “get even” thing is more scary than Kelly on jelly beans.

        I think people in celebrity mode feel entitled. That’s why Paul thought it was ok for people to spend their hard earned cash on an extravagant birthday party for him. That’s why Jill feels is ok to ask companies for gifts if she gives a tweet. I suspect our politicians are so used to being given rides in private jets and vacations that they feel entitled also.

  38. Quincy IL says:


    I was looking into Cat’s book, “Inbox Full.” It won’t be out until later this years so that deadline must have been missed. Why are we supposed to care that she left her husband for a married man and then was a floozie for several years before marrying the Newsweek photographer? People are floozies around her all of the time. She is thin, but not exceptionally beautiful. I don’t get it. Why would anyone want to buy her book?


    BTW, the article calls her sexy and charismatic…. I don’t see either of those two words as being accurately descriptive of the Cat we see.

    • Bosandi says:

      I was wondering the exact same thing. What makes her life so interesting that I or anyone would want to buy her book? The only thing noteworthy is that she made out with one of the princes. I guess in the words of JZ, it’s in the book.

  39. Sha2000 says:

    Looks like People will be featuring the fight pic’s from the reunion:


    Anything for a buck; yet they claim capitalism is on it’s way out, lol.

    • MAMAZ says:

      The picture of Alex on the same page is BEAUTIFUL!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Just from the action in the pic and article, looks like classy “ain’t I nice” Teresa once again is the physical aggressor.

      T’s a nitwit. Bet Danielle said something to push Teresa’s buttons (not hard to do, granted) and classy Teresa went off on her. What a bunch of ninnies.

      Caroline’s holding T back? Caroline should slap her ala Cher in “Moonstruck.”

      • Maryla says:

        NeedaHobby — loved that scene in moonstruck!

        I think that I feel bad for Tree b/c in a few years she will look back at her behavior and realize what an absolute fool she made of herself each and every time she opened her mouth.

        Wait a minute — self-reflection, introspection from Mrs. Giudice? ha ha ha ha… I crack myself up.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Yeah, loved that scene too, “Snap out of it!”

          If T’s kids grow up with any sense (in spite of their parents), they’ll be the ones looking back and cringing at their mom’s behavior.

          • Quincy IL says:

            Acorns don’t fall far from the tree. They are going to be as indulgent as their mother. Pity the men who marry them.

    • julieintexas says:

      Ditto – I can’t stand her either – After watching the whole season Caroline should be ashamed she called that meeting – she was only told T and J’s side of the story – the footage shows different! But hell no she isn’t ashamed – hell she still thinks Teresa is just being Teresa and she is just so cute – UGH! She actually saw what really happened with the chasing/hair pull – and she is still blaming D for this BS! The only time D has been around these BULLIES was when they called her to meet and or she was invited by the backstabbers (the Kim’s)! She has pretty much kept to herself – while paranoid that one of the crazy bitches would come after her! Danielle if your reading this – Keep the Bodyguards – cause Teresa and Trashley are animals! Also keep in mind that Jaq and Teresa stayed friends with the backstabbers – why- cause they are obsessed with D and wanted to know what was going on in her world – and D got rid of the backstabbing bitches! Sorry guys – bullies just piss me off! I have got to stop watchin this crap – my blood pressure is through the roof!

  40. boston02127 says:

    @Quincy IL–A while back you posted a drink to make with fruit. I copied it and made one today. It was delicious. Thanks.

    1/2 c. milk, skim
    1/3 c. nonfat plain yogurt
    1 large banana, frozen
    1/3 c. blueberries, frozen or fresh

    • Quincy IL says:

      I got the idea from Danielle and the recipe from an old cook book with tattered pages. I’m glad you liked it. Not many calories either.

  41. boston02127 says:


    I can imagine going on a date with Albie Manzo (blech) and Caroline peeking out from the back seat.

  42. Wall St Lady says:

    Earlier I asked posters to tell how/why they choose their names.
    I LOVE LOVE LOVE the responses. Thank u for sharing

    Below I have made some personal comments of how your names inspire me

    Kat 1 & 2 ,at 15 I decided my 1st girl would b called Kat !

    Laura ; when I am being silly & dramatic I bellow out a 60s song: “Tell Laura I love her. Tell Laura I need her. Tell Laura not to cry my love for her will never die !”Then the singer dies in a car crash while trying to make $$ for his beloved 16 year old Laura. Ever herd it ? When I was 8 it broke my heart & I said prayers for Laura for years.

    Kim G & Pantry viewer u r too funny ! I love laughing at your clever spoofs of our starlets !

    Boston & one more , like Kat 1& 2 u r so respectful of each other. I am glad I asked cuz I wasn’t sure if u were the same poster. Squirrels had Tad in Boston. I went to school there for a while but my Southern blood was freezing & the men I met wanted
    To go dutch. This Southern Belle was not ready for Boston

    Ellabean my husband & I love love love jazz especially Bill Evans & enjoy jazz regularly in NY. I have also had several yellow labs. Each one took a piece of my heart when he passed.

    Jezzibel the above being said I have been OBCESSED with cats since I was a child. I signed my name w/ a cat drawing. Refused to wear PJs etc unless they had a cat on them. To this day I have never sent out a holiday card that didn’t have a cat on it ! I love the name Jezabelle , so cool. But does she behave like a jezabelle ?(Bad girl)

    Vilzvet I also had a hot sports car but not as cool as a vet. All I can say is what color & WOW how cool. How old is ur Dad?

    MammaZ u r brave to take I hate ill Zarrin’s name. I like the generations old family name inspiration better. I conger up a grand lineage in my head.

    Windy City. When its not snowing, possibly one of the most beautiful cities in America in my opinion had prospects from Siberian who came to the US w/no woolen under ware cuz they wanted to be like Americans. They said to them Chicago is colder than Siberian. & to make matters worse we don’t sell proper woolen under ware !

    RIerinFl how clever. My first name was NYC Wall St. Palm Beach Lady which was pretty stupid. I spend a lot of time in Fla. When/if I retire I will b inspired to change my name by u. Also I love the RI coast. Do u return ?

    Wallflower for some reason I thought that was kind of a Southern expression. But I know u quickly saw that u can keep ur sweet name but shy folks are drawn out by the friendly posters in the Lynn family !

    Viki55. Hi what does 55 stand for ?I think Queen Victoria is how I will think of u !

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      WSL – I’ve heard that song many times. The first time was when my sister brought her then “boyfriend” home. He was cuban with a heavy accent. We called them Lucy & Ricky. (She’s a redhead) They wound up getting married and whenever I would walk in the room, he would laugh and start singing that song. Thanks for taking me back to that time.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      NYC Wall St. Palm Beach Lady-NOW I remember you!

    • Ellabean says:

      Wall St Lady~
      That was so warm & generous of you to respond back to everyone who explained how/why they chose their screen names….fellow jazz and Lab lover. We enjoy going to NYC clubs too & Linc Ctr. & adore B-way. Enjoyed your stream of consiousness words about it all – felt so up close and personal.

      • vilzvet says:

        I agree you are so sweet Lady! The car I had was a beautiful red one that my 75-year-old dad still takes to shows, he likes to chat with everyone. He is actually a VERY young 75 with a full head of hair! He also plays in a band, bass guitar. Love that man…

    • RIerinFL says:

      Wall St Lady,

      I loved that you asked everyone to explain their name and how you so sweetly responded to all of us. You are one classy lady.

      I have not been able to get back to RI for some years now. We have been working through money problems and vacations have not been available. We are finally starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel, so hopefully we will be able to go soon. This may sound strange but I really miss the food! I miss hot weiners, lobster and steamer combos, fish and chips, Del’s lemonade and all the Italian food on Federal Hill!

      I know you have not been well but I’m not sure why (sometimes I get so far behind that I have to skip through). I hope you are doing better.

  43. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet—The Gap ad on the side of a bus said, “zip it.” hilarious.

    It was hilarious to you and you alone Kelly. Personally, I don’t think you were standing at the correct end of the bus.

  44. Wall St Lady says:

    So squirrels how did u choose ur name ? I envision u as more as a flying squirrel who is EVERY where at the same time & flies from place to place in the blink of an eye all the while having big liquid eyes that although demanding melt the recipient of ur demands. Last I imagine as u wait patiently ur furry tail twitches cuz u mean business 🙂

  45. lovebeth says:

    now kelly is using the word “holy”

    “holy sugar the new jewelry is sick or something”

  46. TrueLifeDiva says:

    O M G that youtube joory video! So you made 6 of those feather things at $2000 each?!?! You have four different lines and only pieces to show? Exclusively sold at Barneys? You are not a designer! You have no product. You sound like a vendor at the local farmers market selling leather braided cuffs (shout out to OC Lynne Curtin). Every time Kellamity opens her mouth she looks dumber, if that’s possible. 🙂

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      “You sound like a vendor”
      So funny, when I saw this video I instantly thought that Kelly is mouthing the words of what she has heard other vendors say.
      When she was the editor of the now defunct Elle Accessories magazine, I am certain she heard similar dialogue from designers trying to get a mention in her mag.
      So like everything non-authentic she tries to pull off (wait whcih is pretty much anything), she mimics and copies someone else.

  47. boston02127 says:

    @Squirrels– I jsut read ch 4. Loved it. Heart warming.

  48. boston02127 says:

    Kelly Bensimon, Today is the 20th. Let’s see how long this jewelry adventure of yours goes on. I give it a month. Don’t bother keeping track of what happens, I will, I have a memory like a elephant. I’ll remind you.

  49. lillybee says:

    Could Juicy gotten off because the Manzo’s called their law enforcement connections?

    • boston02127 says:

      @lillybee — Either that or they had the “right” judge. Lawyers know the easy judges. People have been known to postpone a hearing until the right judge is assigned.

    • Zoey says:

      Or could Juicy have his own connections? I mean, they deal in huge amounts of cash so we know their business dealings are not on the up and up. If you lead a life of crime, surely you have some sort of connections- either people you pay off or trade favors for.

  50. dumberries says:

    Just took a peak at the Bravo comments on Chewy’s blog. A poster named Arleta had my favorite, simply “BRAVO is protecting you from what the viewers really think”. Another poster begged her to stop being so vulgar. “Vulgar”, perfect word – lol. There are a lot of negative comments posted, but a lot of positive ones too. I’m certain that Bravo picks and chooses comments (and tries to make it appear like random selection). Their blogs aren’t viewer forums, they’re marketing tools. If you look at comments for any other blog or article about the Giudices, you can barely find one comment in support of their behavior. They are being hammered everywhere else on the internet.

  51. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Ugh! I clicked on Kelley’s site to see how many pieces of her “exclusive joory” line were still for sale. I peeked at her clothes and stumbled upon the “Kelley logo” line. It consists of a very curvaseous female outline in a swimsuit. I instantly recognized this from her cash bar halloween party flier that “raised a lot of money” for an unknown charity. Kelley has been copying Bethenny for quite some time now.

  52. celeste says:

    I hate Teresa Guiddice as much as I hate Jill Zarin. They stink equally in my book.

    • Squirrels says:

      Impossible, she’s the nicest person in the world. Just ask her. 😀

    • Kat says:

      Teresa is bankrupt and Jill is morally bankrupt, wait so is Teresa.
      Teresa will try to kick your ass physically while Jill will give you the mind f*ck of your life while stabbing you in the back. They’re both two faced. They both have bad taste.
      In the petri dish they share they’re both nasty bacteria.

  53. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Lynn for another great blog!

    I’ve just read Lynda Erkiletian’s blog and She said to not TWEET her account because somebody stole it!

    It is almost sure that nice Lynda you had in Tweet was not the DC HW…

  54. boston02127 says:

    Good night everyone. I’ll leave some words of wisdom.

    Everyone deserves clean water.

    Stop trying to make a living and make a statement!

    Mediocrity is so boring. Take chances!

    Everyone deserves internet access. Let’s make America smarter together!

    Why do we have to be all flowers and lollipops. Why can’t it be like fighting but we are actually learning. That’s called back-door education.

    Eating well, exercising everyday, and sleeping well makes your hair and nails grow, and makes u a calmer kinder person. yup.

    I am just authentic. I am not going to be fake for popularity, sorry. I am human. hiiii

    Good night everyone and don’t forget to wear Love 🙂

  55. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    This is Real City Housewife’s latest blog. It’s about Teresa’s Bravo blog.


  56. Adgirl says:

    Per Jenn Sale on ChicagoNow
    Nasty news about DANIELLE being FIRED before the Reunion show.
    And there is NO SPIN OFF. Ha!

    “Exclusive: Here’s the Skinny on Danielle leaving Real Housewives of New Jersey and the ‘spin off show’

    Wow…what a crayzayzay day for the New Jersey Housewives, right? I can’t even celebrate .my linkage on TMZ and Fox News without these hags ruining it.

    And yes, that was a shameless self promoting plug. This is my blog. Deal with it 🙂

    So anyways, the internets went bananas at the news Danielle Staub, everyone’s favorite felon and ‘prostitutionwhore’ was fired from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and will not return next season.

    I so called this, like 3 months ago, so I’d like my money now, people.

    Now let me begin this with a big fat ALLEGEDLY incase anyone gets any ideas about sending their lawyers after me to give me a big scare… this is all ALLEGEDLY…

    Ok, that’s out of the way, I can say what I want now…

    So, way back when I heard rumblings about the powers that be at Bravo being more than a little pee’d off about the whole Dina thing and Danielle’s having a hand in that hot mess. They were really hoping to give her a good edit and get people not to be so skeeved out by her.

    Then there was a little thing called, Danielle Staub Raw, that glorious adventure in fiction, “The Naked Truth”, and well just Danielle being Danielle….if ya know what I mean. This isn’t news, she’s been looking for condos in New York for a long time, and put her house up for sale.

    If you buy it, make them bleach it…just sayin’….

    I even had half a heart attack when I got a text from a source very close to the Bravo Cirque De Freakshow, saying ‘don’t be surprised if Danielle ends up on RHONY’

    Holy Hell that would be incredibly awesome. But that would never happen because those girls threatened to WALK if it was even whispered to them.

    So Bravo kicked her to the curb about 2 months ago. Notice all the cryptic h’wives tweets after the reunion with the whole ‘I can finally be done for good’ stuff? Because they were told before the reunion that she was cut loose. This is why what we’re going to see in a couple of weeks is going to be EPIC on so many levels.

    Now about that whole “Spin Off” nonsense Danielle’s spewing to the press…

    Sources tell me from close to both the Bravo Mothership and the cast that this is a figment of Danielle’s active imagination. She is hardcore pimping out this Dina Lohan special where she further damages her kids by playing ‘momager’ to their fledgling Modeling and Singing careers. Yes there is a pitch, and there is a production company… but Bravo won’t touch it with a ten foot pole, and no one else will either as far as I know.

    She also has the issue of a pending custody case with Tom Staub regarding Jillian, and the appropriate releases have not been obtained in the first place. They haven’t even been FILED yet. No work permits, no releases…NADA.

    So that’s what I know to be the story…ALLEGEDLY. I am lucky to have almost as many insiders in NJ as I do in OC, and they have never been wrong yet. But let’s disclaimer the heck out of this post, even though we all know Danielle is an avid commenter and emailer and isn’t afraid to give me a piece of her mind…I just never want to have to meet her in court…k?

    Is anybody sad about Danielle leaving RHONJ? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Very interesting. I’m sure her having gun toting henchmen did not help matters. I say good riddance. She’s just gross.

  57. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Read on The Daily Beast that Endemol, which produces Big Brother and Flipping Out is SEVERELY in debt to the tune of about $3 billion. The company may be ok for now, but rumblings have been going around that if they don’t deal with their debt holders they will be in deep trouble.


  58. Kat says:

    Way OT I was reminded of an old record, Flying Purple People Eater. It got me thinking of funny or unique songs. So I thought I’d mention a few I remember. If anyone else recalls more please mention them. 🙂

    Flying Purple People Eater
    Basketball Jones
    One Week (BareNakedLadies)
    I’m Too Sexy For My Shirt
    Old Home Keep On Trucking Cafe (Convoy?)

  59. Adgirl says:

    That blog (above) about Danielle being fired from NJ.
    What IF Danielle really moved RHNY? Oh my God that would be….. what?
    Let’s imagine her first scenes with:
    Jill: Danielle enters the apartment where a cocktail party is happening. She marches up to Jill and berates her for not greeting her (Danielle) quickly enough. Jill dives into the pantry. Danielle follows! Much crashing and screaming is heard. Danielle emerges and leaves (grabbing a bottle of wine on her way out). Jill is found on the pantry floor with a Costco tub of mayonaise on her head.
    LuAnn: Danielle arrives at one of Countless’s concerts. Danielle jumps on stage and grabs LuAnn’s mic during “Money Can’t Buy You Class”. Danielle screams into the mic “Money Can Buy You THIS” and reveals her vajayjay piercing. Classy!!

    Anyone want to take a stab at Kelly, Ramona, Alex or Sonja’s first run in with

    • Kat says:

      I can’t take a stab at Staub, I’m not that clever. But your post is great.

    • Noelle says:

      LOL, love “Jill dives into the pantry….Danielle emerges…(grabbing a bottle of wine on her way out.) Jill is found on the pantry floor with a Costco tub of mayonnaise on her head.” Great stuff!! 😀
      How about Danielle runs into Kelly in the hall and discovers (as does Kelly) that they’re soul-mates….and that Kelly has even a larger package then the one she’s carrying in her hand! Danielle’s gleeful as she now has the both of best worlds and Kelly, well, is just Kelly…cartwheeling down the hall!
      Both walking hand-in-hand into the sunset….Fade to black! AHHH…We can dream can’t we..!?! hee

      • Adgirl says:

        Snort! That is hysterical. I imagined Kelly pulling her “I’m up here…” on Danielle until even Danielle can’t understand a word Kelly is saying so she pulls out the gun and shoots Kelly mid- sentence.

        • Zoey says:

          And then we see what we all guessed- the springs and wires and bolts fall out. We knew it, Kelly;’s an alien!

    • Sha2000 says:

      I’m still hoping we see the Giudices & the “Countess” get to spend some quality time together ; ), that would be must see tv!

  60. ches says:

    This was posted on Perez Hilton’s site concerning Danielle getting the boot.
    If the part about D getting fired before the reunion is true I can see why she would want to rip out Theresa’s heart.


    • Adgirl says:

      We were discussing the blog (above) that there was an idea of Danielle going to the RHNY. We were pondering the intro to the NY ladies. What do you think would happen between Ramona and Danielle?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Ramona vs Danielle – has already begun with the snubs at events (not taking pictures with each other) so I doubt there would be much interaction between these two.

    • kats2 says:

      Thank you for the link ches. When I read it I thought it seemed very harsh even for Perez (What did Danielle ever do to him) and the light bulb went on that it must be Teresa feeding him the information. But I don’t believe that it’s true that Danielle was fired/leaving or whatever.

  61. Quincy IL says:

    I was taking links from here and read a few blogs, from Jenn Z and others, concerning Danielle and her departure from Bravo. While reflecting on the supposed insider information, I think I began to understand what probably happened.

    I think Danielle desperately wanted to be on this television show. It was her ticket out of the financial hell that she fell into when her husband had the affair with his beautiful, Danielle look alike, much younger second wife who is now pregnant. Danielle probably realized that the center of the New Jersey show would be the beautiful (not in Danielle’s eyes though) Dina Manzo. Dina was the darling of the Manzo family and already had been the star of a reality show when she created her big fat Italian wedding. A few friends might have known about Danielle’s past, but it wasn’t widely known. Danielle took the role in the Bravo series and now she needed to become a part of the ensemble cast. She has difficulties with people as we all can see so she didn’t know how to make friends with the Manzo clan. Dina, the star and organizer, supposedly approached Danielle about negotiating the pay from Bravo with Danielle and her followers. Danielle balked and hired her own lawyer. The negotiations apparently went poorly. The rating of NJ are astronomical compared to NYC and those NYC girls get boat loads of cash compared to the NJ girls. Dina probably blames that on Danielle’s intransigence.

    Now, other jealous NJ women start to pay attention to a Bravo reality show being in their cities. Some people have some information about Danielle which she either told them or some of her former coworkers from the distant past remembered. Tom Staub, the ex, was going through a lot of stuff while divorcing Danielle. Think he wouldn’t be angry enough to make a comments here or there about Danielle’s history?

    We know that Danielle started off the show telling J and T about the phone sex and going to a restaurant to meet with that unknown person. She wasn’t afraid to do that. She seemed comfortable about meeting strange men. T and J told us season one that there were rumors that Danielle was a “husband stealer.” According to gossip coming out of Wayne, NJ, and relaid to us in blogs, Danielle was a loose cannon in her sexual escapades and women in the town really sent up smoke signals to the entire state of NJ.

    Now, here’s my guess about Caroline’s tears and her belief that Danielle is garbage which she has repeated numerous times. I think Danielle wanted to be friends with Dina. She might have wanted to tie Dina up in her basement, skin her and wear her like Versace as Dina said season one. Dina, the chosen one, was not interested in a friendship with the town floozie. You see, Dina is on a pedestal like a Roman goddess placed there by her family and others who saw her as beautiful. Even Bravo Andy fell under Dina’s spell as he went to the Kentucky Derby with her for a lovely weekend.

    Danielle does everything in her power to pull the Statue of Dina down. She interfers with the sister in law of Dina’s ex and starts rumors at the nail salon that the paper work was not correctly signed. She starts rumors about Dina’s marriage and may have implied that Danielle and Dina’s current husband had a relationship. It probably was untrue, but rumors in town morphed to the internet as the speed of light.

    It seems that the rumor mill is filled with Danielle stories about the gifts she got from men in her community. Being Danielle, when tossed aside by those men, she would tell about her kisses so that the wives of the men would feel her pain. There are a lot of angry women in the vicinity of Wayne, NJ, who no doubt shared with Caroline Manzo, the mother of the Mazo clan. Caroline lead the charge at Bravo, visiting the Queen of NYC, Jill, in the Hamptons and sharing all of the rumor, perhaps with names of the angry women, with Bravo Andy.

    Dina leaves the show because of Danielle. The family is miserable. Bravo Andy is miserable. Danielle treats Bravo Andy like dirt on WWHL. Danielle doesn’t get a call back and Dina, the goddess is petitioned to grace our television screens once more. Light (blue eyed Dina) wins out over Darkness (blacked eyed Danielle.) It’s the perfect ending for an ancient saga.

    Except, Danielle is really angry …. and she is not going to go away quietly or ever.

    • boston02127 says:

      Good Morning

      @Quincy IL–I was just reading this about Danielle, I can’t imagine it’s true of her getting her own show.


      • Sha2000 says:

        Well said Quincy.

        But, I do have to add that I disagree that the ex-husband said anything to spread rumors or truths about D. I would hope that as a father he had his daughters best interests in mind & telling theses stories would only hurt the children. So I doubt it was him; also we’ve seen D has loose lips, who brags that men once stuffed twenty’s & fifty’s in your g-string on national television when you have two young girls at home? No doubt the community knew some (true or false) information, but I don’t think he was the source. I also think that regardless of the drama that’s between the two camps on the show, you can only film so much division and eventually reasons (as we are seeing) have to be manufactured to get both sides together (enter the Kim’s) to actually have a story, and we’ve reached the end of the road with this one. The show can go on without her, just like the tonight show without Johnny & Ed did. We will still shake our heads, wince & (more than likely) fall asleep watching these women, but there will be someone new in her place. The bigger question that remains is, will the office be as funny without the character Michael Scott?

        • Quincy IL says:

          Can you imagine being in a divorce with Danielle? There were more cannon balls fired than Gettysburg. He wouldn’t help her fix leaky sinks or crack in walls due to a leaky roof. That is one very angry man. Danielle did a job on him on national tv too. Dina and Jacqueline commented on him and they got their information from Danielle. Even President Lincoln had his moments of anger (he fired his own generals and staff.) No man on Earth would be silent under those conditions.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Boston, Danielle may have been shopping the concept of a new show because she felt the undertide in NJ.

        Jeanna Keough was popular with Bravo and in OC fandom. She said that she was going on a new reality show and it turned out to be “Thintervension.” She told the press that OC was created by a neighbor of hers who thought her family should have it’s own show and the concept morphed into a group of female friend and what OC is today.

        Kelly thinks she is getting her own show.

        Bethenny got her show when Jill thought the show should be all about Jill.

        Danielle is in the custody battle of her life with her second ex. He has ammunition with sex tapes and information from Danielle’s escapades in Wayne, NJ, as well as documents of her life before being the rich wife of an magnate. The Bravo shows which document Danielle being the best mother in the world, can be analyzed with the judge watching how Danielle manipulates her kids, intends to buy the bigger house when the kids are working full time, and her new sexual freedoms thanks to the fourth breast implant operation and the practice pole dancing.

        I don’t think Bravo considered giving Danielle her own show. I think they placated her.

        Danielle will move to NYC and become a regular in the gay entertainment venue. She has found an accepting audience and fan base in this community. It’s ok too. Everyone needs a place to call home. She won’t be on our televisions, Boston. I am really convinced that I am right about this.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          I think you hit the nail on the head.

          -IMHO-Danielle had 2 bottomless pits of need: money and family-or a sense of belonging.
          -It seems that a lot of her interpersonal problems come from a dangerous obcession with both.
          -I think her promiscuous behavior also comes from her deep well of neediness.
          -She has even been quoted as saying something along the lines of-I hang out in strip clubs because no one judges me there. (paraphrased but you get the idea)

        • MAMAZ says:

          Quincy – I think you are right on target.
          The only thing I disagree about it that Danielle treated Andy like crap on WWHL. He has always mocked Danielle and treated her like the Bravo redheaded step child. ( No offense to all the loving step parents out there) I think she was reacting to his behavior by not playing his game. He deserved it.

          And I don’t think she will become a regular in gay entertainment in spite of her “relationship” with Lori Michaels. Danielle’s new found sexual identitiy is manufactured like most of what Danielle does. Lori Michaels is as Andy describes her a gay icon. The gay community will be as forgiving as the Manzo clique when Danielle is done using Lori or Lori can’t tolerate her shenanigans anymore.

          Her own show? It could happen. Bravo has no scruples. Neither does E or VH1. But I don’t think she can carry a show for long. The only thing she does well is fight with her friends and neighbors. We’ve seen it already. Just like with Kelly’s craziness and Jill’s meanness. You have to have something else to offer. That’s why as viewers we forgive Bethenny’s foul mouth and snarkiness. That’s not all she is. We get to see her as a tortured daughter, a wounded friend, sucessful business woman, a loving wife and ecstatic mother. With Danielle we see that she has told several different versions of her childhood and search for her birth mother, as a friend she is all about what she can get, as a mother she’s overly concerned with how her children make her look and how their careers can advance her position. That doesn’t add up to a long running show. The viewer has to have something to like about the star.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I also got the impression when RHONJ started that Dina was the chosen one – all others revolve around her. She had the platform and Danielle didn’t have much trouble knocking her off it and then off the show. This past season Teresa took it upon herself to knock Danielle off the show….did she succeed? And does Bravo really believe that the majority of their housewives fans really like Teresa??

    • klmh says:

      Interesting read. I guess my question as far as Dina’s non-friendship with Danielle is, if you knew about someone like this, would you want to be friends with her? I think her distancing herself from Danielle was the smartest thing she could do for herself. In the past we have seen she doesn’t like confrontation because she doesn’t argue and bicker well enough to stay the course, so to speak. She says what she wants to say but won’t keep fighting to prove her point.
      You made some great points though… more to think about.

    • ches says:

      Quote from Quincy IL,
      “I think Danielle wanted to be friends with Dina. She might have wanted to tie Dina up in her basement, skin her and wear her like Versace as Dina said season one. Dina, the chosen one, was not interested in a friendship with the town floozie. You see, Dina is on a pedestal like a Roman goddess placed there by her family and others who saw her as beautiful”

      I can just imagine Danielle saying to Dina, “Rub the lotion on your body.” hehe

      I always got the impression that Danielle was like the sad, ugly, unpopular high school girl, coming from a bad, dysfunctional family life.
      She met Dina and thought of her as the rich, popular, pretty, cheerleader, homecoming queen type. Blond, blue eyes, and seemingly untainted by by any skeletons lurking in her closet.
      Dina was everything Danielle wanted to be.
      Dina was friendly, at first, but then started to see the real Danielle and wanted no parts of her. As Dina started distancing herself Danielle got more desperate and started acting out – big time.
      It was almost as if Danielle had a “girl crush” on Dina and was hurt when Dina didn’t reciprocate. Danielle reacted with a sort of “middle-aged, female, fatal attraction, smack down” on the Manzos.
      I think Danielle was actually thrilled when Dina called her the last time. She was really hoping it was going to be a sort of reconciliation.
      Not Danielle can’t handle the rejection and is lashing out.

  62. Quincy IL says:

    Jill’s bedding line comes out in Oct, the normal time frame for NYC filming. However, they won’t be filming. It seems that Jill will have to find other venues to hawk the bedding. I suspect Jill will hire paparazzi to follow her from bedroom of reality star to bedroom of reality star showing her wares.

    I don’t know about you, but I won’t be buying anything that dog layed on.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Well she does have access to beautiful fabrics I’m sure it will be nice, I am no a fan however of the people hawking their name solely because they are on TV; for that reason alone I won’t be buying.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I personally never buy any celebrity line merchandise unless there is real design behind it. I am not a Jessica Simpson fan but I will admit to buying some of her shoes. Most are too slutty for me but I have found a few pairs that I just love, love love! (I have sort of an embarrassingly large shoe collection *blush*). I won’t buy Bethenny’s skin care line because I already have wonderful skin care products and I’m not going to switch just because I like Bethenny.
        BUT I won’t buy JZ’s bedding even if it’s the most amazing, beautiful, softest, bedding ever made. because I HATE JILL ZARIN!

    • ShyAsrai says:

      I’d love to see Bravo put in the contracts that no participant can create a product/write a book etc etc as long as they are an official “HW”.

      People like Bethenny and Romana who already had businesses going is one thing – that’s part of their lives.

      Yeah, I know – legal loopholes blah blah

  63. LynnNChicago says:

    Where is Boston? Kelly answered your question about the Own Jewelry….

    I uploaded a YouTube video — 524 0183 http://youtu.be/MDmM2YQRYnM?a

  64. Wall St Lady says:

    Th judge isn’t going to change his judgment. No offense but have u ever met a judge honored for being a traffic judge Ladies. Let’s not get mad let’s get even. Since Juicy is such a starrrr he should set an example for Jo six pack up to your Governor. The folks at MADD r a very powerful voice. And as was mentioned up stream we R too. Let’s start an email campaign to MADD about Juicys record & punishment ! Enough complaints of this insulting punishment to people who lost love ones for a drunk driver JUST ONCE killing someone they love could cause enough trouble for MADD to cause a stink about Stinky Juice.
    Can someone find the email address & let’s “Lynn them” to death.

  65. vilzvet says:

    Hooray, Bravo is actually keeping some negative posts up: Here is a great one to Teresa:
    “From Karen: Here goes. I imagine that Caroline went to Italy (with kidney stones) because her very hard working husband Albert had finally agreed to take time away from the Brownstone, which was perhaps practically a miracle in and of itself, to enjoy Italy with Caroline , his parents and her parents. He was leery about going with all of the young children, but reluctantly agreed. Caroline needed time with her husband. Considering that Caroline had a very painful problem, of course she was cranky. She would not be human if she wasn’t. But she rallied, and went, and tried to make the best of it. A friend would understand that.

    Considering how she was feeling, no one can imagine that you would dump your kids on Caroline and Albert. Are you kidding? She had kidney stones! You do not seem to understand or grasp your total lack of consideration.

    Caroline (and her entire family) have been a huge supporter of you, even when your poor behavior did not deserve it. Your blog seems to throw Caroline under the bus, saying if she didn’t feel good she should have stayed home.

    Your comment saying it was hilarious when Joe kicked the suitcase off of the elevator was serious SPIN…perhaps you should be in PR. It was awful, just as it was when he was swearing like a sailor in front of all the children, the parents, and the camera’s. He was FURIOUS. So get real, and stop attempting to SPIN what really took place. Considering how much you packed for your mom’s weekend last season, or how much you packed for one photo shoot for Gia, I cannot even imagine how much you probably packed for Italy. Guessing Joe had good reason to resort to kicking the blasted suitcases off the elevator. He is only human, after all. I would say his tolerance level has actually been pretty high for one man. Give Joe a break and get on the same team. The weight on his shoulders is too much.”

    • Olivia says:

      Teresa’s penchant for violence has been displayed by her language and her actions with the table flipping incident. An incident that Caroline found amusing. Her constant reference to “Teresa being Teresa”, as if this covered all Teresa’s sins, showed just how shallow Caroline is as well. She then went on to defend Trashley by chalking that one up to the “family” connections.

      If Caroline is being dissed by Teresa she deserves it. Caroline agreed to continue filming this show surrounded by the likes of Teresa and Danielle and she got exactly what she wanted out of it. The fact that the mantle of her claim to be the one possessing the most commonsense began to slip a little with her defense of these two losers earned her a place right alongside them.

      • dumberries says:

        Does Caroline remember her line that amused Teresa so much, “ya hang around garabage, ya gonna stink”? Caroline, take a whiff of yourself right about now; time to take Teresa out…

    • ShyAsrai says:

      you have to wonder:

      1) according to the reports, Caroline was diagnosed with kidney stones the night before the trip (or was at hospital for them)

      2) on the show, Albert churlishy refused to pack for himself the night before the trip, even though Caroline was ill/suffering.

      3) exactly how kind and/or loving is this Albert fellow? he should have been helping Caroline by bringing her fluffy pillows whilst he packed for both of them.

  66. Olivia says:

    I can’t even begin to express how truly disgusted I am by the latest actions played out by the Guidice’s with Joe being practically exonerated for his activities, or Bravo’s gleeful peek a the reunion show that emphasizes more violence by the women involved.

    Is this stuff seriously considered “entertainment” to watch women threaten one another as others step in to keep them apart? The standards for what passes for in this form of “reality” have sunk to such low levels of acceptability that it becomes almost impossible to comprehend. Bravo is making fools out of these women who pretend that what they are doing is “empowering” as they collaborate with the network to cast them in the most unflattering light. They are doing more than just “sleeping with the enemy” as Bravo continues along the path of disguising the misogyny under the veil of programing. Their addiction for fame is being fed to the detriment of women everywhere.

    Some commentators are eagerly awaiting this horrendous “match up” between Danielle and Teresa which only underscores the level of hatred this show produces. We seem to be only one step from enjoying watching the “spilling of blood” to satisfy some of these viewers and that in itself is troubling. Imagining the delight of viewing one amoral loser taking on another amoral loser has sunk this series and its accompanying franchises into a whole new level of absurdity. Allowing these talentless @ssholes the opportunity to explain away their egregious behavior via blogs is an affront.

    There must be a hole the size of a crater in our cerebral thinking that has some begging for the return of the NJ franchise with Teresa posing at their number 1 attraction. Getting rid of Danielle was a first step. Scrapping this show entirely should be the next.

    • Olivia says:

      One can only hope that Sleepy Joe puts his flat foot down to another series highlighting his financial shenanigans and driving record. That at least would suggest that he has some measure of self respect left to distance himself from the criticisms of how he lives his questionable life in the glare of the public eye.

      • Quincy IL says:

        He is a lot like Simon from OC. He doesn’t like the cameras. He looks awful on tv and come off as a monster. Why would he do it again? Teresa doesn’t care about his opinion. She wants to be infamous. (She doesn’t know what infamous means.)

        • Olivia says:

          She wants to be bigger than Tila Tequila.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Maybe there would be less drunk driving if judges who let these mutable offense drunk drivers off were held accountable for their bad judgment…if the person drives drunk again & injurers someone. Just as bartenders are now when they keep serving a drunk. It’s a good idea that will never happen.

  67. kats2 says:

    I’m have a feeling Teresa and/or Kelly are the ones feeding Perez HW information. I bet one of them is responsible for telling him about B being pregos. The other HW’s had a feeling she was (boobs and small bump) and Kelly called him or through HW talk Teresa found out and told him. These are two vile people who are very jealous of Bethenny.

    I don’t believe any of the rumors about Danielle leaving, did Bravo announce it or confirm it? So the HW NYC don’t know yet if they will be back but the NJ HW’s know before the season ends? All this speculation and insider stories are all good free press for the last 3 remaining episodes of NJ HW. The show has centered around Danielle, Bravo doesn’t get rid of the villians they keep them and they don’t seem to really care if the other cast members like or not. Like Andy tweeted weeks ago, “No one forcing them to be on the show.” Bethenny (Bravo’s most successful brand) has major issues with Kelly, and there is no talk of getting rid of Kelly to keep Bethenny, but they are going to get rid of Danielle?

    • dumberries says:

      Yep, I’m not buying any HW casting news until it is directly announced by an identified Bravo official. I agree, it’s good “buzz” (true or not) to have this all floating around right before the finale and reunions air…

  68. Quincy IL says:

    I think we need a Chicago Convention. We can emulate the Star Trek fans. Fans of NYC, can wear designer fashions. Fans of NJ can dress up like bimbos. OC girls, can stuff their bras with toilet paper and wear shiny smocks.

    We can sell stuff, like bags of feathers from road kill so that people can make jewelry at home. We can go to Target and buy cheap face creams and make up packages made by small children in China, then put a shiny label on them and call them “I hate Jill Zarin” cheap face cream and makeup line.

    I have some old sheets that I don’t need and I think I’ll make a bedding line for dogs. My mom quilts so she will sew for me.

    Yep, there are ways to make money in this economy, you just have to brand yourself out of breakfast cereal and into the fandom of Real Housewives by Bravo.

    • Olivia says:

      The books! Don’t forget the books!

    • kats2 says:

      HA! Love it.

      • Quincy IL says:

        We can start working on stuff to sell now. I walked 7.4 miles and there were dead bird all over. Illinois is in debt and it seems they don’t want to clean up road kill so it’s all ours.

        I think Olivia might be in charge of all of the books we are going to write. Squirrels should be in charge of photos, book covers, and the lovely photos of all of us that we splash all over the internet and at the convention.

        It’s going to be hard to be stars. We will have dress fittings while drinking champaigne, our hair will be done in our homes, and we will have to attend charity meeting with food. I know we all have it in us to do this. Let’s go!

        • Olivia says:

          We would definitely have to “think outside the box” in the book writing department.

          So far there have been books written on parenting, weight loss, healthy eating, manners, autobiographies, bikinis, friendships, an upcoming novel by Sonja, and secrets of a London party girl who may or may not have been a one time lapdancer.

          Hard to find a topic not already covered that would equal what we have been subjected to so far.

          • MAMAZ says:

            How about Secrets of an Italian Grifter : How To Live Like You Have Millions When You Have Nothing At All

            It would be a very short book.
            Chapter 1 – Forge signature on loan applications
            Chapter 2 – Hide assets in family members names
            Chapter 3- Declare bankruptcy
            Chapter 4 – Let the taxpayer pick up the tab
            Chapter 5 Cry on TV that you are misunderstood

            • Olivia says:

              Another possibility: “Which Is More Painful: Watching the ‘Housewives’ or Living With a Pencil Stuck In My Ear?”

              Offers the reader a choice.

          • Quincy IL says:

            Eating your way to spectacular boobs, Looking good in Oprah Winfrey bathing suits (I have one and you do look good in them,) our autobiographies actually written by us, Secrets of marrying Middle Eastern royalty (my husband’s great grandmother was an Afghan princess sold to his grandfather’s business family, she left behind two babies and ran back to the palace in Kabal,) a manual on bartending and pizza making for Thurs. night Bravo watching (many girls here will help with this,)
            how not to parent a Bravo celebrity brat, and
            just for fun, how to make a blog where people actually want to become better Human beings (this will be Lynn’s work because somehow she figured it out.)

          • Kat says:

            “How to be a Famewhore.”
            “Bad Behavior the Key to a Spot on Bravo”
            “A Crazy Playing Crazy”
            “Make Debt and Assets Disappear”

    • I can make kids clothes out of old drapes. 🙂

  69. Wall St Lady says:

    Quincy I was just thinking/daydreaming the same thing about a convension. I was sure it would break blog “rules”. But just the same was thinking about it !

    • Quincy IL says:

      The only rule on this blog is that we be respectful of other commenters and try to think out of the box. I made up the second part because I wanted to think out of the box. Lynn won’t mind.

    • Ellabean says:

      Wall St Lady~
      That was so warm & generous of you to respond back to everyone who explained how/why they chose their screen names….fellow jazz and Lab lover. We enjoy going to NYC clubs too & Linc Ctr. & and adore B-way. Enjoyed your stream of consiousness words about it all – felt so up close and personal. I am posting this here to make sure you see this – but I’ll post it as a reply back upthread too.

      pls don’t scold me kats2

      • Quincy IL says:

        Excellent job at thinking out of the box.

      • kats2 says:

        Yeah like I would waste my energy being mad at this? Come on it was just a suggestion to help some of us follow everyone and I don’t think I scolded anyone while making the suggestion.

  70. Wall St Lady says:

    I would write a book about how to get the Perfect Boob Job.

  71. Wall St Lady says:

    Quincy I ment isn’t it unblog like to get together off line ?I am just a delighted guest here & want to b respectful. My Southern Mother always told me it was harder to b a guest than a host. I think because in someone else’s home u don’t know their “rules”. That being said I always laugh my too fat A$$ of with ur posts ! 🙂

    • Quincy IL says:

      and yet… I always stuck out like a sore thumb here.

      I love watching people and that’s why I love sharing on this web site. I wanted to go to Chicago for Lynn’s get together when Silex came, but a close friend had an opening to her art show with two years of work, so I missed my chance. I think I love Simon, don’t tell him though… We don’t want him to get a swelled head.

      • kats2 says:

        Quincy – You don’t stick out like a sore thumb at all. I think you fit in perfectly.

        Wall St Lady – Please keep the southern lessons and sayings coming, there used to be a southern bell who posted here all the time and she has not been here for a while. I miss the sayings and quotes she shared from family members. As true blue Northern girl I love it.

  72. Amber...Real Housewife says:

    I don’t care about the stones, rocks and bricks that’ll come my way but I HOPE Danielle isn’t fired. Without her that show will be BORING! I was hoping they would recast other wives to interact with her. Or if need be, recast the whole show, starting from zero. I think the interesting cast would have been keeping Theresa, for the bankruptcy issues and chicanery, Danielle for the crazy and getting rid of the Manzo/Laurita clan. They are the boring ones. Not because they are not thieves, they are, or whores, or crazy, they definitely are that too. But because you snore when they come on screen.
    The Manzo’s don’t pay their bills, have been sued, and play the ham game for entertainment. Jac, a cigarette girl from Vegas, with a stupid jowly daughter who’s shacked up by 18, screams hookers all day long. Coupled with Caroline and Jac’s ability to ignore and excuse the bad behaviour of their family and friends, all the while attacking same actions of their enemy, is crazy at it’s finest. The are also dillusional believing they are interesting enough to carry a show with the exploits of the Manzo/Laurita clan. If BRAVO is stupid enough to just work with them, I am sure the ratings will fall.

    The only way this could work, *lightbulb moment*, is if Theresa now becomes the super villain, with the trash talking of Caroline. Caroline, now aware of all the lies and manipulation by Theresa is angry to have been fooled. Jac is now in the position of having to choose between Therese and Caroline. While, KimG keeps stirring the pot with Jac, about Theresa and Caroline’s authority over the clan. Dina the Dud, comes back and is now forced to defend her relationship with the grifting Theresa. Meanwhile Caroline disapprovingly reminds Dina and Jac of the known criminal, civil and financial records of the Guidices.


    • Sha2000 says:

      The show already IS boring, lol.

      • Amber...Real Housewife says:

        Like mentioned upstream, they pretty much have us at BRAVO. For those of us who don’t do football, or scripted drama by the writers guild, the pickings are slim on Monday nights. Especially those of us who love RealityTV. Maybe E or VH1 will bring something to blow them out the water. Maybe another rapper or rockstar will be looking for love. I can only hope.

    • dumberries says:

      Amber, I was actually wondering if the scene from your last paragraph is, indeed, what the next season will look like. We’ve seen Teresa starting to diss Caroline this week, and Caroline seemed none too pleased with Chewy in Italy. Maybe Bravo is looking to recreate the Zarin/Frankel storyline in NJ. If Danielle doesn’t return, it could be the running theme. Too bad it doesn’t seem like Caroline and Teresa were ever REALLY that tight to begin with…

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      “a cigarette girl” or a stripper?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        she was also a “model” at convention shows – like cars….. and I thought she also worked in a hair salon???

  73. Wall St Lady says:

    Olivia & Quincy from the midwest, I a dyslexic & most times I recognize words as a whole vs really reading it. Believe it or not I am always confusing your names because they look a lot alike to me. Could u please tell me how u decided to use ur name. & forgive me in advance if its the name u r called. & in that case why did ur parents pick it ?

    • Quincy IL says:

      QuincyIL is the city that I work in and it’s close to our farm. Quincy was founded in 1816 and is named after President John Quincy Adams. What’s cool is Sonja’s daughter is descended from President John Adams, the father of John Quincy.

    • Olivia says:

      Olivia is the name of my youngest granddaughter. Easy to spell.

  74. Zoey says:

    Arrrrgh! This irks me. I just Googled ‘RHONY’ and it said ‘Did you mean: RHONJ?’

    No I did not!!! Ha.

  75. klmh says:

    This site has some very interesting articles from today:
    There is an article about Cat from DC and how the cameras took part of one tape and spliced it to another part. She is interacting with her husband at different times and they capture her hair length difference. Bet these people could find Waldo in a minute. Anyway, there are some other interesting articles as well… enjoy.


  76. Squirrels says:

    As to the delight in blood letting? Why not just take Lynn C, Kim Z, Nene, Teresa, Danielle, Jill and of course Kelly and toss them into a version of the Bad Girls Club.

    Kelly would supply the psychosis in that she would be unable to escape.
    Jill would demand the best bed in the house along with a doggie door for Ginger.
    Kelly would believe the doggie door is for her.
    Teresa would take up sewing outfits for Ginger.
    Kim Z would be sending out smoke signals for Patty S to rescue her.
    Danielle would try to figure out a way to steal Bawby away.
    Nene would scream all day to the point she wouldn’t need a mic setup.
    Lynn would try to figure out how to grift Jill.
    Teresa would try to figure out how to out-grift Lynn.
    Kim Z and Danielle would have a sing off that included cartwheeling during their performances.
    Kelly would learn how to do back flips into the pool.
    Jill would drain the pool.

  77. dumberries says:

    Kelly must’ve paid a visit to her former employer this week. She left behind some little gifts for the staff:

  78. Adgirl says:

    This was posted earlier, but is very interesting and worth repeating for whomever missed it. There is a sister peice about Danielle and Dina/Manzo mess.
    We all should be happy that Danielle is not iving in our town claiming to have slept with our husbands or sons. yuck.

    Jenn Sale of ChicagoNow.com on Danielle’s firing and the “Spin Off”:

    Exclusive: Here’s the Skinny on Danielle leaving Real Housewives of New Jersey and the ‘spin off show’
    Wow…what a crayzayzay day for the New Jersey Housewives, right? I can’t even celebrate .my linkage on TMZ and Fox News without these hags ruining it.

    And yes, that was a shameless self promoting plug. This is my blog. Deal with it 🙂

    So anyways, the internets went bananas at the news Danielle Staub, everyone’s favorite felon and ‘prostitutionwhore’ was fired from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and will not return next season.

    I so called this, like 3 months ago, so I’d like my money now, people.

    Now let me begin this with a big fat ALLEGEDLY incase anyone gets any ideas about sending their lawyers after me to give me a big scare… this is all ALLEGEDLY…

    Ok, that’s out of the way, I can say what I want now…

    So, way back when I heard rumblings about the powers that be at Bravo being more than a little pee’d off about the whole Dina thing and Danielle’s having a hand in that hot mess. They were really hoping to give her a good edit and get people not to be so skeeved out by her.

    Then there was a little thing called, Danielle Staub Raw, that glorious adventure in fiction, “The Naked Truth”, and well just Danielle being Danielle….if ya know what I mean. This isn’t news, she’s been looking for condos in New York for a long time, and put her house up for sale.
    If you buy it, make them bleach it…just sayin’….

    I even had half a heart attack when I got a text from a source very close to the Bravo Cirque De Freakshow, saying ‘don’t be surprised if Danielle ends up on RHONY’

    Holy Hell that would be incredibly awesome. But that would never happen because those girls threatened to WALK if it was even whispered to them.

    So Bravo kicked her to the curb about 2 months ago. Notice all the cryptic h’wives tweets after the reunion with the whole ‘I can finally be done for good’ stuff? Because they were told before the reunion that she was cut loose. This is why what we’re going to see in a couple of weeks is going to be EPIC on so many levels.

    Now about that whole “Spin Off” nonsense Danielle’s spewing to the press…

    Sources tell me from close to both the Bravo Mothership and the cast that this is a figment of Danielle’s active imagination. She is hardcore pimping out this Dina Lohan special where she further damages her kids by playing ‘momager’ to their fledgling Modeling and Singing careers. Yes there is a pitch, and there is a production company… but Bravo won’t touch it with a ten foot pole, and no one else will either as far as I know.

    She also has the issue of a pending custody case with Tom Staub regarding Jillian, and the appropriate releases have not been obtained in the first place. They haven’t even been FILED yet. No work permits, no releases…NADA.

    So that’s what I know to be the story…ALLEGEDLY. I am lucky to have almost as many insiders in NJ as I do in OC, and they have never been wrong yet. But let’s disclaimer the heck out of this post, even though we all know Danielle is an avid commenter and emailer and isn’t afraid to give me a piece of her mind…I just never want to have to meet her in court…k?

    Is anybody sad about Danielle leaving RHONJ? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


  79. Adgirl says:

    Why the Manzos (and everyone else in NJ) Hate Danielle.
    By Jenn Sales ChicagoNow.com

    “This is not about a phone number, c’mon…” the truth behind the Dina/Danielle feud.

    Remember when Caroline Manzo was questioned about the Manzo family feud with Danielle Staub and why she was so upset about what Danielle supposedly did to invoke such a reaction from Rizzo herself? She was very clear that the whole fight was ‘not about a phone number’ so speculation continued over what this Hatfield/McCoy bloodbath was really all about.

    This is what Dina posted on her Facebook today…

    “twisted press today, not cool :(”

    I’m not sure what she means by that. The New York Daily News ran a story today about the former Real Housewives of New Jersey star, who left the series last month due to the antics of costar Danielle Staub.

    The article itself paints Dina in a pretty good light. Describing the truth about the whole situation with Lexi, Dina’s daughter, and the backhanded attempts by Danielle to have custody possibly taken away from Dina because she allegedly forged documents with Lexi’s father’s signature on them to allow her daughter to appear on the show.

    Not to rehash the whole article, I’m sure you can read it for yourself, there was obviously nothing to that claim as Lexi is still with Dina full time, and no legal action was taken. It was a very simple case of Dad thinking it was ok, then seeing the show’s lunatics and then deciding it was not ok, and that was that.

    Seems simple enough. And when explanations are simple, they are usually true. If you were to listen to Danielle’s side of things, it seems very complicated, convoluted, and she tries to make it sound simple.

    Now the rumor mill is on FIRE again, speculating about this and that. Just last week there were vile and vicious rumors that the star of “Danielle Staub Raw” the faceless man with the now infamous wienie, was infact, Dina’s current husband, Tommy.

    Obviously that’s not the case. The fact that anybody could think that is bizarre. Let’s pretend it was Tommy. First off, Danielle would have it sky written from New Jersey to Alaska that she bagged Dina’s husband. Are you kidding? She would be so self satisfied and smug she wouldn’t possibly be able to keep it a secret.

    Also, if it were Tommy on that tape, that tape would have never, ever seen the light of day. There would have been a huge lock down on that thing, and the Manzo’s would have gone to court so fast our heads would spin. And not to imply…ahem…any kind of monkey business int hat family at ALL, but Danielle would most certainly be wearing concrete shoes and sleeping wit da fishes been made to keep quiet about it, legally speaking of course.

    Let’s again take a trip down memory lane…Danielle has always been desperate to be Dina’s friend. Remember last year at CJ’s birthday party? Even this season, when Dina called her to “break up” with her, the joy it brought to Danielle’s face that Dina would actually call her was almost heartbreaking and sad in a way. All this woman has ever wanted was Dina to be her friend. And when that doesn’t happen she flies over the cuckoo’s nest. Desperation will do that to you.
    So these two have a past that predates this show by a lot. Dina’s disdain for Danielle wasn’t anything new. She didn’t just read ‘Cop Without a Badge’ and decide to hate her. There was already bad blood spilled since they gave Jacqueline so much crap for going against the “family” and befriending Danielle at all.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that Danielle was just Danielle in Wayne, NJ before last year. Nobody knew anything about her past before then. And she already had a reputation across THREE towns for bagging married husbands and making them buy her silence. Sources tell me she is basically the town’s freaky sex poodle. Wifey won’t do something kinky? Danielle will! Just bring a Prada bag with you!

    Remember that this family the Laurita/Manzos is huge and very widespread. Not only that, but so is Dina’s ex’s family. And the town is still small enough where people talk about people and can be all up in eachother’s business. And Danielle being very desperate to be somehow welcome and accepted into this clan networked through everyone and spread a bunch of BS. Let’s all remember that she loves a good victim role, which is why Jax fell for it and protected her from the big meanies. It wasn’t her first rodeo working through the masses, and the family knew that.

    The feud is about this. Yeah, she did all of the things Dina said she did in the interview. But it’s the stories, the lies, and the BS attached to those things that stems this feud. Insiders have said since the end of last season that this was bad. And going around town making up stories about bagging husbands, sons, and brothers while you’re trying to make trouble in a custody arrangement is pretty bad stuff.
    And it wasn’t just saying “oh I did so and so on the meat counter at the Brownstone” it was details, fake phone calls, emails, and text messages. A lot of trouble was caused, feelings hurt, marriages strained, reputations jeopardized, all at the hands of one woman.

    I’m told that what really happened was she made desperate advances, got shot down, and went bananas. Typical modus operandi.

    The insiders to this saga have been quiet just because the whole thing was unnecessary and people are still hurt enough to not have it dragged through public. They also don’t want to empower Dirty D by giving her the ability to say, “They’re lying! And picking on me again!”. They don’t feel it’s necessary for kids to have to have their family name in the paper and traumatize them over it. Danielle shows her hand enough to prove their point on her own.

    This feud is about a slash and burn campaign that left a LOT of emotional collateral damage. Just put yourself in the position to hear that your son/brother/husband is doing the horizontal mambo with that woman, and she supposedly has evidence ready to destroy your life with. While spinning a couple of other plates… like making custody trouble and pitting people against eachother when there’s a child involved.

    About my sources….because it will come up. Of course they do not want to be identified for several reasons, and I am well aware they could be anything, from protecting those involved to being just as full of shiz as Danielle. I have asked several times for the scoop and I get a little bit here and there. When the story broke, I received an email connecting the dots and giving me permission to put this out there. It makes complete sense to me, so I believe it. Like I said, simple explanations are usually the truthful ones.

    But you could also choose NOT to believe it. I haven’t really libeled anyone or said things that haven’t already been put out there. Just remember what Caroline said…this is not about a phone number, that’s only part of it. And keep in mind, Dina left at the height of this particular drama. Finally, also remember that Danielle said she might ‘put the real truth out’ in the reunion?


    • kats2 says:

      I read that blog I don’t get how “Chicagonow” is getting all this information about NJ, but I now know a Chicagonow blog exists. I’m from Chicago and have no plans of reading the blog again, but it made an interesting story. Still doesn’t explain why Dina didn’t come forward with the “truth” about Danielle. None it makes sense and quite frankly I would believe Tommy is once again cheating on Dina before I believed Danielle had to make up a story about Tommy being unfaithful.

      • Noelle says:

        @Kats2-I’m with you and I don’t quite understand the “truth” aspect re: Dina, Danielle. Am I missing something?
        Confusing at best.

  80. Adgirl says:

    I was most shocked that Bravo or Danielle were considering transferring her to the NY show!!!
    HUH? That would be CRAZY.That would be like putting Tia Tequila on Sexy in the City.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      That is Danielle’s wishful thinking! Bravo would not put her on NY because she clearly doesn’t fit there! She has nothing in common with the ladies of NY. Maybe Atlanta……she might fit better there.

  81. Wall St Lady says:

    For those of u who were wondering like I have been I just read via an up stream post that Salami’s father, Dirgham, is an immigrant of Palestinian descent.I thought Missy wore the Sari in honor of her husbands family so I was wrong. Also Missy is a Cougar 39/44.

  82. lillybee says:

    Jill Z has a blog about DC on her site. Funny to see her defending Michaele. I knew that she would try to latch on to the most infamous one.

    • Adgirl says:

      Maybe Jill wants tips from her on how to become an anorexic so she won’t have to throw diet coke all over her dinner.

      DC this week – when Tareq was discussing Micheale’s eating habits at the Hairdresser Dinner I wanted to grab the camera and aim it at her plate. What did she actually eat or does she just mush it around on her plate?

      • Quincy IL says:

        Michaela is bone thin that’s for sure. Since women in their mid 40s tend to gain weight, it’s suspicious. I noted that Lynda said that she had to get one of the fashion models in the show to eat. I think that she’s in the industry and constantly looking at the models to make sure they are the right size.

        Having gone through physical training now, I understand that lean muscle/body fat is one thousand times more important than a number on a scale. Lots of us grew up with Twiggy so we thought that emaciated was the goal. It’s not.

        I doubt that Michaela exercises. I think she doesn’t eat and her husband can say that she ate a whole chicken breast once, but that won’t change my mind.

        • Kat says:

          Not eating screws up metabolism and can make your body think it’s starving, further slowing metabolism. Plus your body starts using muscle for energy.

          Since muscle burns more calories than fat as I’m sure most know, if Michaela would exercise a bit she could have her chicken breast and eat it too.

          I do know people who eat plenty, don’t exercise and can’t gain weight. It’s just their metabolic profile.

          After saying all that I think wanting to be a Bravo Housewife assumes a person is extroverted, egocentric, and vain. Whether metabolism, vanity or anorexia keeps her bone thin who knows? But of course she will deny an eating disorder, she is busy projecting a fabulous ideal lifestyle.

          Celebrities routinely deny anorexia, bulemia, substance abuse, marital problems…. until years later when they either reinvent themselves or write a book.
          I’m waiting/hoping Mel Gibson pens one. NOT

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill loves her underdogs…..and this would be a hugh project given it would have to be a twofer cause Tareq has to be part of it. IMO, she is trying to get Bravo’s attention.

      • Squirrels says:

        Tareq would never give control to Jill. In fact, unless he thought Jill had the power to help them continue their fraudulent ways, like she holds a diamond power of veto, he wouldn’t let Jill within two feet of his very under his thumb wife.

    • Squirrels says:

      Jill, oh silly Jilly. In your quest for fame you are consistent in your approach. It’s like you can’t help it. What goes on inside that screwball brain?

      Now, in your hour of desperation you don’t hitch your wagon to a star, but one of the most distasteful women in recent news history. I suspect you believe that will make you look kind, generous and altruistic.

      The truth is it makes you look like a fame starved fool. A true D Lister (no offense to Kathy Griffin). But we already knew that.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Jill’s first response to the White House incident was to say that the Salahis should not be a part of the Bravo show. I remember reading that comment from Jill. Later, she changed her tune. Blowing with the wind, Jill Zarin.

  83. Lovebeth says:

    Bravo did not ask her to blog DC so she posted on her website what a sad sad idea. Who post another hW blog on their website? she must have a lot of time on her hands.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Another thought – Alex is blogging other shows – NJ and now DC….

    • Noelle says:

      I noticed that too!

      You know Jill…(Bravo didn’t ask her to blog..)so anything to stay relevant!
      Media HO much?!! OY!!

  84. WindyCityWondering says:

    Has anyone noticed a pattern with NJ blogs? Teresa goes first, then Caroline and Jacq do a clean up of Teresa’s mess. Teresa has no concern for anyone else and these two think they can make viewers believe that she is really a nice person?

    • dumberries says:

      And as someone else pointed last week, Bravo posts a mix of positive and negative comments the first day. The next day, almost all positive comments appear….

  85. Quincy IL says:

    Plausible denieability.

    Yep, the scene with Danny telling Danielle that it’s safe to get a sandwich was just on and Danielle didn’t raise an eyebrow to the news that her cast members had all gone to Italy during filming season. You are going to tell me that she can’t move her eyebrows and that is true, but from a woman who gets upset so easily over who is where with who, that news should have made her choke on the protein bar. She didn’t miss a beat. Danny and Danielle are on speed dial. The moment he heard about Italy, she knew. That scene was probably practiced a few times before the camera rolled.

    Bad acting BTW

  86. Zipit Zarin says:


    BRAVO’s motus operandi They don’t let on to the club what they are in for and have them sign a release before hand that they can’t sue. Not that the club shouldn’t have investigated before hand …but… it just seems to me this is the way BRAVO operates. They don’t let people in on what is going to happen and then sit back and rake in the benefits as people’s lives are adversely affected. No wonder they know how to find like-minded people i.e. Teresa and Danielle. This whole franchise is a cesspool.

    • Olivia says:

      The seventh paragraph says it all. “Staged behavior of the cast members”. Since I read somewhere that Kim G is a “persona non grata” member of the country club in question, it is more than likely that it was through her efforts that this show as able to film there.

      I wonder if Portobello, the last restaurant that featured the “showdown” between Danielle and Kim G feels the same way. These ladies are blazing a trail of unwanted behavior throughout northern NJ.

      • Squirrels says:

        If it was through Kim G’s efforts, it would make sense as to why she dragged Danielle back into Teresa’s line of sight. She had something to prove to Bravo by showing she could get a venue like the country club to allow filming, then bring on the drama. Seems to me she had only one shot i which to do it.

    • Quincy IL says:

      I liked the paragraph when the author writes that these women don’t represent our club, town or state. Slap in the face goes to Teresa, Jacqueline, Danielle and Ashley.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Wow! That letter slammed Teresa/Jacq/Danielle good. Wonder if Kim G was a member of the Country Club? SO all the damage done from the stampede wasn’t on Bravo either. There won’t be a public venue that will allow these cows to film in next season. lol

    • Squirrels says:

      I’d like to know who was the “club” member who sponsored the fashion show to begin with? Did his/her membership end up revoked?

      • Olivia says:

        I believe it was Kim G. She is no longer welcome there according to an article I read a few weeks ago. And with Kim D being a sister in law it sort of makes sense.

        • Quincy IL says:

          The fashion show is in Oct this year and it’s going to be at the Brownstone.

        • phoney reality says:

          Kim G twittered :going to North Jersey Country Club again today. Meeting the girls for a fun filled action day. Kim D coming later after she closes Posche.
          7:56 AM Aug 8th via web

          Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read, especially when it comes to Bravo’s faux reality shows.

    • ShyAsrai says:

      no minced words there! i enjoyed that.

  87. Wall St Lady says:

    Here I go again. lillybee &dumberries who in my mind are in the garden together ,why r u lillybee & dumberries.
    Klnmh u remind me of European miles (dyslexia in full force)
    Earingirl I probably could open an earring store but it would have to b retro & I am allergic to feathers !
    OK needahobby I get it but what made u identify w/ill needing a hobby ?
    Adgirl is it ad a girl like my dad would say to me when I kept up w/my 3 brothers when they were hoping to leave me out or behind ? For a while I thought u worked for an add agency like Mad Men.

    • dumberries says:

      Just a silly take on Kelly’s reference to gummy bears as “gumberries” during her infamous meltdown scene…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      “Get a Hobby” refers to the kick off of the Jill vs Bethenny feud.

    • klmh says:

      Oops, one too many letters. Tx!

      • klmh says:

        Wall St Lady, I answered your question in an earlier blog but put it in the wrong spot. The klmh name are my initials. This way I cant forget or confuse myself with anyone else here! Thanks again for the fun question.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      I wasn’t a big fan of these kinds of “reality”shows in general, but I got sucked into RHONY especially last season with Jillz machinations and crazy Kelly. I followed commentary and discussions about the show online & was at TWOP until the RHONY forum there was shut down after discussion of “Amazongate.” I read & followed Lynn’s blogs as they moved around on the net. One day I was moved to post, needed a name & I thought, Jeez, I really do “need a hobby” if I’m paying this much attention to these characters. Hence the name.

      It is a sort of hobby or at minimum, an entertaining diversion. The discussion here ranges widely, there are a lot of laughs & fun and informative posters. It’s a sort of ad hoc community of smart asses, intellects and, despite the name of the blog and the snark, some very nice people. (And of course, a flying squirrel.) 😉

    • Adgirl says:

      Adgirl is Ad(vertising) Girl, as in Account Manager for a media group. Those annoying online ads that surround news stories or pop up from the page are my fault : ) .
      It was probably worse when your home mail box was full of junk my I sent your way.

  88. Wall St Lady says:

    Oh I like it ! But did u only start bloging when she had her melt down or did u have a different name b4 ?

    • dumberries says:

      Was lurking here for a couple of weeks and started posting after the meltdown; dumberries is my original nickname…

  89. lillybee says:

    Lillybee is the name of one of my toons on World of Warcraft. Actually my granddaughter is Lilian Beatrix. I call her Lillybee.

  90. WindyCityWondering says:

    After looking at the picture of Caroline and Andy making a Bravo sandwich with Teresa at the reunion, I am wondering why Bravo would keep someone with violent tendencies on their show? Teresa is being rewarded for her behavior – both on and off the show. I have no doubts that Danielle pushed her buttons but a lot of what Danielle would say is exactly what we want to know!

    • Quincy IL says:

      Bravo wants to film Teresa and Joe being kicked out of the mansion, then they will fire her.

      • Squirrels says:

        I thought the cast members were allowed to decide what could or could not be filmed. In essence, if I don’t want you to film my pregnancy test, I can say so.

        If that is the case, they would say no to the auction, etc. Not to mention the court could refuse them entrance as well. Just thinking out loud here.

        • Scorpiosue1102 says:

          I think you’re right Squirrels. I think I read something where Bethenny said that Bravo has which days they are filming so they are not necessarily filming all the time.

    • dumberries says:

      It sure doesn’t take much to push their buttons. All Danielle has to do is respond to something and they go nuts. Teresa launched the moronic table flip when Danielle corrected her statements about her (D’s) own criminal past. Teresa went batshit crazy when she lied and said her house was worth 5 mil and Danielle responded that she heard it was in foreclosure. Caroline wanted to hide her father-in-laws criminal past, but thought it was fine to expose Danielle’s to world.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Mrs. Manzo didn’t make that trip, did she? That’s Albert’s mom. Surely, they invited her.

        • dumberries says:

          sorry Quincy, I’m living up to my name – don’t understand the question..

          • Quincy IL says:

            Was Caroline Manzo’s mother in law on the trip?

            • dumberries says:

              Oh, the Italy trip, right? I don’t remember seeing her or hearing Albert talk about her. Think it was just Caroline’s parents. Maybe she’s deceased?

      • Squirrels says:

        Hypocrisy rules on Network Bravo and for quite some time we’ve know its only 1/2 reality. Why not just throw pies in our faces Andy?

      • Quincy IL says:

        So Jeanna Keough is making the plunge into “Thintervention.” She has a modest goal of 25 lbs weight loss.


        From the photo, I would guess that she’s a tad more overweight than 25 lbs. Like other menopausal women, her weight is in her belly. That’s the norm.

        I know that you can lose weight through diet and exercise. I have done it. It would be harder for Jeanna because she probably can’t cook and has to eat out quite a bit. Also, she’s a drinker and those calories from alcohol metabolize like bacon fat. You have to exercise for 2 hours with vigor for a single margarita (non skinny girl.) When you are young, it’s easy to lose weight. After 40, it’s a challenge. After 50, it’s a miracle. I got the miracle, but you have to exercise every single day.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      It’s like professional wrestling to a degree. But Teresa really is a bit of a hot head and, since she’s not exactly bright, easy to play.

      All Danielle has to say is “pay attention, pulleeze” and Teresa’s off. T’s very sensitive about her degree of intelligence….any suggestions that she perhaps has the IQ of a box of rocks will set her off. Or that her pretensions are simply that and that T’s as “faux” as the “marble” in her pretentious little palace.

      So far from reports of the reunion, it appears that T is once again the physical aggressor in a spat with D. Really, though, T expects someone to hold her back so it’s probably a safe play. For once though I wish someone wouldn’t hold T back and the object of her ire would just clock her one and stop her in her tracks. None of this hair pulling BS. But doubt Danielle would be the one to do it. She talks big but her game is to manipulate others, not do the dirty work herself. She’ll push the other idiots’ buttons and then play the victim.

      Got an idea…..forget about sending Danielle to RHONY. Send KKB to RHONJ.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Better still: new franchise “Real Losers Housewives” stars include Jill, Kelly, Danielle, Teresa, Lynn C, – damn gotta stop the list it is getting too long!

  91. Quincy IL says:

    Jeff Lewis has a meeting in next Tues. episode with Christina Vega Fowler of Casa Vega Restaurant. I looked at their website and the inside of the restaurant looks as it did as they were planning and it is not Jeff Lewis’s style at all. I think the family decided not to change something that works.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I thought Jeff was doing the outside with the hope of getting the interior remodel as well. Guessing he didn’t get it. Did the outside look different?

      • Quincy IL says:

        No photos of the outside.

        • Adgirl says:

          When Christina mentioned they were launching a new menu and it sounded like her staff would have a hard time adjusting (the difficulty of “training” everyone), I thought she might postpone any new decor.
          Too many changes for staff and customers at the same time.

          Did anyone catch Jeff saying his associate was visiting Javiers? Javiers is a very popular upscale Mex restaurant in OC. Sounded like Casa Vegas wanted to lift Javiers look.

  92. Kip says:

    Have you been reading Kim G’s comments on twitter? Could the woman be more obnoxious?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      don’t tweeter – what is she saying?

      • Squirrels says:

        “Oh Tom surprised me here In AZ. Going to Grand Canyon on a private helicopter & not using anyone’s money. Oh to be rich & not scam & phony!!”

        I’m still not sure if she is referring to T or D. Also not sure I care.

        • Squirrels says:

          Of course, it could easily be D she’s dissing. But if she’s going after T? Maybe something isn’t well between the Manzos and Giudices and she’s trying to ram the point home in yet another desperate attempt to get that golden D-List fame ticket from Andy and the Bullshit Factory?

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Gotta be D since she didn’t get to air her laundry list of things/monies she spent on her when they were “friends”……

        • Noelle says:

          Sounds like The Giudices she’s referring to.

  93. WindyCityWondering says:

    Now I’m wondering about Ashley’s tweet right after the taping of the reunion – do you think they started blasting each other’s kids and Jacq said there will be no more filming of her children or Ashley in particular?

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I was thinking that or could the surprise be that Jacqueline did not side with Ashley on something???? Or Jacqueline said something negative about Ashley and her behavior???

      It’s like a train wreck and I can’t help but watch as I pass no matter how ugly it is.

  94. Squirrels says:

    Dang, if this isn’t an invitation for trouble.


    Ok, this is awkward but please follow my 73 yr old mother on twitter @nettielaurita (never thought I would say those words)gotta love her!”

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      next it will be grandma wrinkles

      • Squirrels says:

        lolol Kitten on the Keys?

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Grandma Wrinkles has had a twitter account for sometime.

        Whoa, Dina’s even using her nekkid cat to vent her wrath:
        “@LynnNChicago I would love to take a big heaping dump on YOU. Maybe that would shut your trap. How’s that sound princess? ; ) about 15 hours ago via web in reply to LynnNChicago http://twitter.com/grandmawrinkles/status/21728741754

        (This was in response to Lynn’s tweet wishing goodnight to ROH. ? )

        Whatever. Good to know Dina’s the “spiritual” one, who doesn’t want to have anything to do with negative energy. Sheesh.

        • Squirrels says:

          So much for the disguise.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Grandma Wrinkles needs some manners! Meow….

          • Need a Hobby says:

            Can’t make out if Dina’s cat tweet was before or after Lynn on twitter wondered what Granny Wrinkles would look like under one of the tires of Dina’s SUV…….

            Bad, bad Lynn.

            If after, then Dina was responding to a provocation.

            Look, I know some folks go all squishy when people talk about kids….leave the kids out of it they say, however goofy looking or ill behaved the little tykes may be. (And face it, some kids are real clockstoppers, let’s be honest.)

            But please leave the poor critters out of it. They have even less choice than the kids about what happens or who they live with. That poor nekkid cat didn’t ask to look like something an alien craft tossed out along the highway. Or to smell like old forgotten goat cheese.

            Now we need a “Leave Grandma Wrinkles Alone!” youtube. Maybe Kelly, that star of all media, can fit that into her busy schedule.

          • Quincy IL says:

            If the ghost behind Grandma Wrinkles twitter is Dina Manzo, she is mentally ill. I looked at the twitters and so many deal with liquid coming from that cat’s bowels that Dina needs help from both a veterinarian and a psychiatrist.

            • Quincy IL says:

              Why is Dina on twitter right now? It’s Sat. night and she leads a fabulous life. Shouldn’t she be all dressed up and at some party?

              • Need a Hobby says:

                Why is she on twitter at all at this point?

                Don’t see how twitter chatter (esp. the spats) is at all in aid of her charity…the reason she gave for being on the show that she quit. If D’s really off the show, figure Dina’s a contender to come back.

                If so, look for more vivid descriptions of her cat’s anal leakage on the show. It’ll be a ratings bonanza.

        • Kat says:

          Dina should recycle her organic matter and eat it for dinner.

  95. Wall St Lady says:

    So needahoppy was later a premonission. WHen Bethanny told ill to ” get a hobby ” U were (pat ur back) already needahobby. HOW COOL.
    I think this proves “God is with us”(music softly).

  96. boston02127 says:

    Kelly won championship in the look-a-like contest today.
    Her tweet & pic–
    http://twitpic.com/2gx2q7 – Champion. Can u believe it. I love billlllll

  97. Squirrels says:

    This goes back a couple weeks, but in case you missed it…. the Black Caucus Dinner and the Salamis.


  98. Wall St Lady says:

    This is scary for people who buy a $2000 ticket & then could be socially “raped” by these grifters ! There r still a few $$$$$$ people who contribute via exclusive gallas who now need to worry a GRIFTER may appear at their table !
    The word has changed. Millionaires r no longer safe at their private fund raisers.
    The Salami’s r SOooooo famous hopefully they will b recognized at the next garbage disposal entrance !

  99. Adgirl says:

    The Salamis are so boorish it’s kind of funny. I mean they are like Jill in that they pursue media attention like a heat seeking missile. Also like Jill, they brag about their supposed charity and generosity when they are actually skin flints (at least Bobby actually A- has money B- pays his bills).

    If I were on the show with them I’d probably just laugh at loud at them instead of making remarks. They are like Heidi and Spencer. Hate us please!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Like attention grabbing heat seeking missiles – exactly! They have nothing of substance to offer (or contribute) yet they are there with their fancy clothes, fake smiles and camera trained eyes.

      • Squirrels says:

        Jill has the same eyes. In every episode when the camera is facing her way at any event, that well worn flash of teeth comes through, loud and clear.

    • Maryla says:

      That is so funny — pursue attention like a heat-seeking missile.

      That reminds me of an old DC saying, “the most dangerous place to be in DC is between (then-Rep., now-Sen.) Chuck Shumer and a TV camera” — because he was so hungry to be in the spotlight.

      I think we can officially amend that saying to: “The most dangerous place to be in DC is between the Salahis and a tv camera”.

  100. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Just to be clear….though Kelly thinks “Zip it” started with her it came from the super funny Austin Power: The Spy Who Shagged Me. :):):)

    • Squirrels says:

      Kelly hasn’t had an original thought since 1978. In 1979 something happened to make her go …. zzzzztttt-zzzzztttt!

      • Need a Hobby says:

        With all the tens of thousands of words written about Kelly’s behavior, B’s description of Kelly’s wiring shorting out is still probably the most apt.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Kelly’s like a parrot. She picks up words and phrases and then they cycle round in her head and come out, whether in or out of context with what’s going on at the time. But there’s usually some sort of interior subtext at least, at least in Kiki’s mind. (Such as when Bethenny explained that she actually understood Kelly’s seemingly random and bizarre “Satchels of gold” comment.)

  101. Wall St Lady says:

    Scorpiosue1102. Very very IMPORTANT clarification !
    Thank u !

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      LOL! I thought so since Kelly likes to read here. Funny thing is that she retweets people saying she should take credit. No, that would be Dr. Evil 😀

  102. Quincy IL says:

    Twitter people, Ramona has a contest with gifts if you sign up to twitter her. She has good stuff.


    Lower right is the link, I don’t twitter but I hope someone here wins.

  103. Zipit Zarin says:


    I “literally” busted out laughing @ “Where are my blood diamonds?” OMG ROFL

  104. Kat says:

    We need a new page… it’s wonky for me.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Yes, wonky.

      Speaking of wonky, I looked at Vicki Gunvalson’s twitter and there is a photo of her in the swimming pool at Cabo. How does she have no stomach when her arms, hips, and thighs are heavy. I think they took the fat cells out of her entire abdomin surgically. I see a lot of women her age at the phyiscial trainer’s and the gym. No one has a flat stomach with that percentage of body fat. I doubt Vick works out as much as some of the people I see.

      • Squirrels says:

        I think it was on RHONY that Sonja learned if they take the fat cells out of one body area, it just lands elsewhere. Which would explain Kelly’s swelled head.

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          Does the fat really go elsewhere? Did the doctor say that? It just sounds really weird. But then, all those procedures sound (and look – the armpit horror show) weird. I’m never even thinking of having anything done.

          • Kat says:

            No. Fat cells removed are gone forever. But if your abdomen was liposuctioned for example, you’d have fewer fat cells there. If you gained weight your fat theoretically would be redistributed.

          • klmh says:

            Maybe a bit more than you wanted to know, but interesting none the less:

          • klmh says:

            And this is sad 😦

            3. Will the fat cells grow back after liposuction?
            Liposuction removes fat cells permanently. The fat cells that are removed by liposuction can never come back, however, if the patient gains a significant amount of weight, then new fat cell can develop. With a small weight gain, existing fat cells simply get bigger by accumulating more fat within the existing cell. However, with an increase of more than 10% of body weight, one can expect new fat cell development in all areas of the body, including areas previously treated by liposuction. As an adult gains larger amounts of weight, increasing numbers of fat cells (lipocytes) are formed from existing pleuripotential connective tissue cells by a process of differentiation. Existing connective tissue cells first change into immature fat cells (lipoblasts), and then develop into mature fat cells with progressive obesity.

      • Kat says:

        Could she have had the photo doctored?

        • Squirrels says:

          You’d have to ask Photoshop pro MickeyMouth. However my understanding is in order to clean that up, a body double would be needed. Therefore, she’d have great arms, etc. as well.

          The problem with doing external body parts would lie in the fact you need to redo the background as well and that is not easy. Although I expect Mickey could do it.

          • Quincy IL says:

            Vicki acts like a college girl in many ways. I think she parties hard. It makes for good tv. I like her husband very much. Her daughter is wonderful too.

            • Zipit Zarin says:

              Remember when she went to her son’s college and mortified him acting like she was a just one of the gang? Eeeuuww. I felt so embarrassed for him and AT her. She makes me gag. When she whined “It’s just not fun anymore!” I thought, sure it was fun when YOU were bullying everyone and they couldn’t or wouldn’t fight back but now that they are “It’s just not fun anymore” wah wah wah I love her daughter and wonder how she turned out so undamaged. She’s a sweet heart.

            • Kat says:

              I agree. Don is very sweet as is her daughter.

  105. WindyCityWondering says:

    Just saw a poll on popeater, should Teresa blame Bravo for being 11 million dollars in debt? 96% of those who voted said NO……love. love, love it!

  106. Zipit Zarin says:

    I’ve always liked Jeana and her daughter. Specially like her daughter but can’t think of her name right now. I see star potential in her …that “it” when ya say “She’s got it”. Can’t define why but that “it” thang is by definition undefinable. She isn’t chasing the fame star so nothing will probably come of it but I’d watch her in her own show or acting in films.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Kara :). I like Kara too. The girl is going to school and working. Good for her.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Thank you. Kara. Will remember that. 😀

        • vilzvet says:

          It seemed like most everyone liked Kara, as well as Vicki’s daughter. Kara is absolutely gorgeous and has a brain in her head. I wonder if Lauri’s daughter ever got that skin care line off the ground, I remember we saw it being made in the factory but not sure if any stores bought it.

  107. boston02127 says:

    Lynn, Can we have a new carry over blog? This one is messing up. Thank you.

    • Noelle says:

      Yes please, Lynn..Seems as though my posts/replies are all over the place.
      Thanks in advance!
      Hi Boston 🙂

  108. Adgirl says:

    Re: Vicki and whether she had lipo on her tummy if her limbs are pudgy.
    I have no idea! But, my very good friend has a body where her tummy and hips are teeney, but she gains weight around her knees and elbows first, followed by her butt (well, we all are followed by our butts). Her rear end gains weight but her tummy doesn’t. The over all look when she wears shorts is sort of bassett hound saggy around her knees and elbows. Weird. Not lipo for her.

  109. klmh says:

    This article doesn’t have to do with the housewives or their lives, but describes the choices we have concerning the safety of one of our food sources. It might help with your decision:


  110. Squirrels says:

    Gotta go shoot a gig. Nite all.

  111. Zoey says:

    I don’t know if this has been posted already, I’ve been out of the house (finally) and am not caught up here.
    This is a tweet from Kelly today-

    LUVINLIFE1067 I would never use a cleanse. Its unhealthy to screw with ur metabolism. Eat light for a few days, drink tons of water

    Didn’t SHE bring a cleanse thingy to Sonja??? She’s giving me that Kell-ache again! Why do I read her tweets….

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Yes Kelly did bring a cleanse to Sonja while she was recouping from lipo.

      Kelly’s a moonbat.

    • Noelle says:

      Yes, she did indeed bring a cleanse to Sonja and she’s a fortified nutcase who thrives on being senseless.
      We read her tweets because even on our worst days, we realize that we are no where near crazy!
      I kid you not….My great-Mama always said..”If you think you’re crazy, then you’re not. Those who think they’re sane are crazy!” LOL!

    • Squirrels says:

      she also brought one to the countess.

  112. Very late blog about NJ’s last episode … school started and I teach 5th grade so I have no time !! 🙂

    Just wanted to ask … Does anyone remember a picture of Teresa when she DOESN’T tip her head to the side? It’s like someone told her back in the 80s that it looked cute and she’s done it for pictures ever since.

    • Noelle says:

      First and foremost..Thank you for being a teacher. Two of my family members are and you must love what you do! Not an easy job by any means…KUDOS!

      Everything about Teresa reminds me of the 80’s and the 70’s too! OY!! The head flip is just too much! It’s as FAKE as she is.

  113. Mimi says:

    I just want to clear up some of the ratings info. #RHOA is actually the highest rated franchise of all. People think it is #RHONJ but it isn’t. The table flipping episode was the highest rated season finale and I think that’s where people get confused. #RHONJ has only had two episodes where they reached 3 million, the country clubbed and the first episode of Italy. Most of their episodes range from 2.5 to 2.8. Their second season debut was reported as 2.3. #RHOA had the highest season 2 premiere than any of them with 2.7. They actually believe they will break their own record with over 3 million for their season 3 debut. Also, in their second season, half of their episodes were over 3 million. The table flip is what gives #RHONJ so much hype. Lynn, when you say that #RHOA may beat #RHONJ, they already have.

  114. Wall St Lady says:

    Vilzvet had a vet so

    Mom2shelbyshae is shelby for the cool shelby car from the sixty s (forgive me if u weren’t born)? If no tell tell. We have Olivia & Lillybee who honored granddaughters & Shelby could be a pretty name

  115. Wall St Lady says:

    Scorpiopsue ?? Is that a zodiac sign (the most intense according to Linda Goodman)

    • KirksvilleMo says:

      Yeah Linda Goodman!I think I have or have had all of her books.Couldn’t wait for Gooberz to come out but I guess I’m not enlightened enough to “get” it.Starsigns is my all time favorite!Thank you for bringing her to mind this day.
      BTW my name here was so to communicate with QuincyIll because my daughter lives near her in Hannibal,Mo.
      Most places I am cyotteeflower and that has a sweet story.My now 13yo granddaughter’s middle name is cyottee.She loves strawberries and was helping me stem and slice them one day when she was about 4.About every 3rd berry she would look at me and say”This looks like a good one” and pop it into her mouth.I said,”You’re grandma’s little Strawberry Girl!” and she came right back with,”And you’re my flower with purple sprinkles!” So cyotteflower has been my main screen name.I’m not so well known I couldn’t change it back.It certainly carries a more interesting story.

  116. Wall St Lady says:

    Up stream
    Squirrels, I wish Kelly would choke on green eggs & ham ,only problem she would feed them to her rented horse & kill it.

    As for the ribbons ,
    She would make earrings out of them & charge $1000 & donate the proceeds to the Improvement of Misunderstood Gummy Bears Fund.

  117. Wall St Lady says:

    Momtoshelby I too love Steel Magnolias & got to see it on B’way. Shelby rocks.
    I hope to name my next pet magnolia & call it Nolie after my (several greats) grand mother Magnolia who married the brother one of our greatest Southern Generals.

  118. Zipit Zarin says:


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