I Hate Jill Zarin RHONJ Reunion Part 1 Guest Blog Aug 31, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin                   RHONJ Reunion Part 1        August 31, 2010

Well we had a full night of the Jersey girls last night  and it wasn’t a pretty sight, I’m still working on my blog but until then, we have a guest blog from @Bdonahueweedman  who seemed to be just as infuriated with the show as I was, enjoy:

 First of all, The Borgata Hotel is THE SHIT. Whatever happens to these broads I guarantee you they’ve got a nice-ass room to cry in. I’ve done comedy shows at the Comedy Club they have there and never wanted to leave. They are in an ugly, gaudy ass room doing this interview, but the Bravo Gaudy Kit seems to follow them wherever they go: Gaudy Chandeliers, gaudy Curtains, couches, pillows. But the hotel rooms? http://www.theborgata.com/Main.cfm?Category_1=2000&Category_2=2100&Category_3=2120 They have THE BEST FUCKING SHEETS ON THE PLANET. But if you try to steal them your luggage gets charged an extra $98 bucks at the airport, but I say it’s worth it. Of course I don’t know that personally, I read it in a magazine.

Andy has on more make-up than Prince Poppycock. Jacqueline…..Looks beautiful, but what time are you going to bust out into “I Will Survive”? Good Lord THAT’S the dress you picked?

Whatever stylist told Caroline that the Tarzan look is flattering on her, even with the weight loss, not only needs to be fired, they really need to be killed. UNLESS they are doing it as a joke, in which case they need to be Knighted.  Sorry Caroline Lovers. Not a fan. Sick of that one. Just because she’s the oldest and we like her husband and her kitchen doesn’t mean she’s not a bitch.

I LOVE that Teresa thinks “Jersey Shore” makes the town look bad. Teresa makes Snooki look like Miss Manners –straddling your Oompa Loompa fatty husband on your Anniversary you bag. AND THE FIRST DIG OF THE NIGHT GOES TO T-BAG! SURPRISE!! (“Danielle would know about sleeping on the first date…Steve…in front of her kids…blah blah blah….”).  This is one of about 18 PILLION reasons why Teresa JewDice-Clay is such a Skuzz. Ya know, these shows take off on their own, they really do. Did we need that? Can we not just let it build on its own? God I hate this bitch. Everything she is trying to achieve is backfiring. NOBODY. EVERY PERSON watching this show just rolled their eyes and went “Oh for Fuck’s sake”.  Thank you Andy, for making what I’m sure, is one of a gabillion attempts to shut this bitch the fuck UP. Cut to clips of whaddaya know, T-Bag showing Joe her, Ready? CLEVE-LEDGE. Swear To g. Rewind it. Cleveledge. All the other wives looking on adoringly at how cute she is. God this whole crew makes me want to puke. I can’t wait til the Manzo Mafia Pigs get wise to the JewDice-Clay’s and take them for a tour of the deep end. Can’t WAIT for that.

A FEW of the ten thousand million mispronunciations, and of course Teresa “We’re allowed to have our own language.” Of course you are. Can’t wait til your kids try to find a JOB. Good Lord what am I saying. Okay now all the babies. Poor kids. Ok who fed Jacqueline 9 cases of Red Bull and Crack before the taping? Forced anger looks awful on her. Starting to not like her anymore. I liked “If you can’t say something nice’ Jacqueline much better.

Okay…THE DINA QUESTION……AND HERE COMES Caroline with her giant sweeping DO NOT SPEAK OF MY SISTER statements, guess what Tuna Breath, she didn’t…ANDY BROUGH IT UP, AND SO DID JAQUELINE. DANIELLE IS JUST ANSWERING. God these Manzos wear my ass out. Now Jacqueline with the “Piece of Garbage”. God this is Sooooooo stupid. These Reunion shows would be SO much better with a slow build.  I’m tellin you guys, I really, really really think that Danielle is not the biggest pain in the ass on this show. I’m just sayin. And tuck yer bra in Jacqueline. Dress is too fuckin tight.  Oh GOD back to “Not saying Congrats on the BABIES”??!! These women are INSANE!!!!! They all call her garbage and expect her to call them and congratulate them on their babies? Like they’re gonna all say “Hey! Hi Danielle! Great to hear from you! Thanks so much!” I’m tellin ya. These four are looking worse and worse every single minute. And here we go! T-Bag desperately tries to re-create her table-flipping scene from last year so it can be re-run 68 million times, but no such luck sister. This time you just look sick. Danielle is the sanest one tonight so far. By the way Teresa, that broad floral print on that dress doesn’t help that giant ass much. You put a doily on each arm you look like a sleeper sofa. Re watch that swagger back to the couch…YOWza! Someone fixed Jacqueline’s bra thank G. Ok, Teresa Meltdown Number one and…CUT!

Andy gives his “Don’t Get Off The Couch” Speech that you give to a four year old, as Jacqueline brushes her hair with her fingers…awesome. I love how the Hair Stylists are everybody’s individual cheering sections. Nothin like a pack of gay men to cover you when you have a deranged Italian psychopath after you.  Caroline giving Teresa the “She wanted that moment Teresa..and you gave it to her.” No, I don’t think she did Manzo. I really don’t think she did. I think she’s about sick of all you crazy bitches, just like we are. At least Caroline had the brains to admit “I’ve never seen this person” to T-Bag. Guess what Manzo? We see this Teresa A LOT. We don’t see the Teresa YOU seem to know and love. The Teresa WE see IS an animal. You said “If you were THAT person I wouldn’t be your friend.” How much more do you need Caroline? Did the Country Club brawl not do it for you? We know the table flipping didn’t. How about tonight?. Three strikes and you’re out maybe?  Teresa is all giggly that Andy is telling her how strong she is. This whole thing is so fucked up. Why isn’t Andy pressing charges? Come on, Andy? PLEEAASEE????

God I don’t believe this. Jacqueline is raggin at Danielle for not going to more than one of her fertility appointments with her. Ladies, I am officially FLIPPING right here as you read this. I officially cannot stand the Manzos. I used to be able to stomach Jacqueline but not after this. I just can’t believe how aggressive she is being.

The Ham Game. Hilarious. Yawn. Caroline wants Albert to stay home and play with her. Yawn. Get a dog.. I’m so sick of her smiling/crying thing. Danielle genuinely feels for her, you can SEE it!!

God Jacqueline AGAIN to Danielle ‘DO YOU KNOW YOUR CHILDREN CRY AT SCHOOL EVERY DAY?” What is WITH her????

Oh God, If we’re going in chronological order, Andy you spineless fuck, you aren’t going to call her out on the ATV with no helmet’s? You even showed THE CLIP right before the little sissy dance around the big “money” question which she has now had weeks to rehearse. Teresa once again reminds us that the children have ‘no clue’ how much those birthday parties cost. They don’t cost SHIT people. It’s called TRADE. We give you an ASSLOAD of advertising (that’s why they show you the NAME of the limo company and the NAME of the little baby beauty shop) and you give us a FREE PARTY!!

Million Dollar question: “Are you in Foreclosure?” Andy pussed out and didn’t nail her for saying ‘UNDER foreclosure’ 88 million times (I guess that’s part of her ‘own language’) and she said, with a straight face, “as long as I have my husband and my daughters that’s all that matters. Diet 7-Up spittake across the room. HOW many times did they have to re-shoot THAT??? And my favorite “Gia doesn’t love materialistic things…she loves me and Joe”. Yeah, and Andy Cohen watches ESPN. and the Grand Finale” “This whole thing has brought us even closer together.” Choke, choke.  Then Andy asks her about the pictures of her shit being auctioned off on the website and she says “I don’t read negative things about me out there.” YOU HAD TO HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHER IN YOUR HOME TAKING PICTURES OF IT YOU IDIOT. DID YOU NOT SEE HIM?”  Plus you don’t READ a picture you dumb cunt.

I REALLY CAN’T BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO SELL US ON THIS “Joe was just SHOOKEN UP (doesn’t anyone tell this woman how to talk?) so he had some shots.” Nobody gets “shooken up” after an accident like that. You call the cops and you call your wife to come and get you and you hit your knees and thank GOD you’re alive. What a load of bullshit.

Is Danielle a Victim or a Villain? Oh look at Caroline shaking her head in disgust. She’s a pig. I hate her. (They shouldn’t even have Dina in these clips if they don’t want to be talking about her.)  All she says Is “I know what I am. I know who I am. I have a happy home. I look in the mirror and I like what I see. DO NOT SPEAK OF MY SISTER!” Everything she says is such a fucking proclamation. Sick of her. Yeah, I know you all want her to be your Mommy and your Aunt but just TRY to watch next week from my point of view. Just TRY. Maybe??

Why is Jacqueline so happy that Danielle has a sex tape out that she can’t afford to get pulled off the market? These women look silly, and hateful. Caroline’s face is so obnoxious. I’m telling you guys, I don’t know what Lynn is writing, cause we’re both up half the night writing these blogs at the same time, but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if she’s feeling the same way I am. That the tides have turned. Danielle was more poised and relaxed then I have ever seen her, and the other three were obnoxious, eye-rolling, (LOTS of eye-rolling), hateful, name calling bitches. And it’s just gonna get worse next week when Kim G comes on. I said last year I am SO SICK of the 4 on 1 mentality. It’s NO FUN. It’s uncomfortable to watch. Danielle needs a buddy!! I do not like this Manzo Mafia Dog Pile week after week! And I REALLY don’t like the joy and delight these women get out of causing this woman (even though she is crazy) so much pain! I am sorry this wasn’t funnier kids, but there wasn’t a lot to laugh at tonight. It was just ….BAD. I may bow out of next week if it’s just more of the same; I don’t know how many times I can keep saying the same thing, and Lynn is more than equipped and much more diplomatic than I am.

(by the way, I am tired of talking cereal and I want some of those Reeboks that make your butt tighter)

So we end up with the big Brownstone re-hash, and previews of next week that look like more of the same…bash Danielle bash Danielle bash Danielle, and I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve it but you need more than one person to fight back with these chicks!! Lynn, like I said I am SURE you’ve got this covered. I had hoped this was gonna be a funny blog but it was just boring like the show. Thanks for inviting me Lynn….I am anxious as hell to see what you have to say!! LV U! @bdonahueweedman

Thanks Beth! 

Until Next Time……

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372 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin RHONJ Reunion Part 1 Guest Blog Aug 31, 2010

  1. kk says:

    You can vote for Jill Zarin as the b*tchiest reality star on Huffingtonpost entertainment section. I voted for Jill. Danielle is winning now. No, Kelli, Ashley, Teresa are not listed.

    Sorry I can’t copy the link using my phone.

    VOTE FOR JILL. Jill may not be as crazy as NJ cast, but she is more manipulative and went after Bethanny, Alex, and Ramona behind the scenes and with her hubbies money. I think Jill egged on Kelli’s breakdown at the island and that is some serious manipulation in my book.

  2. lori024 says:

    I disagree with one major point…I don’t believe these women ARE causing Danielle any pain at all. Like Kelly from New York, I truly believe that Danielle firmly believes that ANY attention is good attention. How many times has she responded to tweeters, “maybe you think you hate me, but at least you’re thinking about me”.
    This mentality perhaps is the inevitable result of reality television, when famed is not earned by talent or skill, but by merely having your name known by the public, regardless of the connotation.

    As far as Danielle saying she is only “playing” the villian, and/or being edited to look so, I have to then wonder why she is in the midst of so many law suits. Is it not EXTREMELY unusual for an adult mother of two impressionable daughters to be involved in so many legal actions?

    Lastly, if you look at the Twitter responses last evening, it is clear that some of these HWs push our buttons on a personal level. I don’t believe that otherwise successful women would be speaking to their television sets as if it were usual to do so. Joking aside, I know that my abnormally heightened reaction to Danielle is because I have known someone throughout my life who has consistently caused drama, lives by the “you’re with me or against me creedo”, and can NEVER simply apologize & say they were wrong. I identify that thorn in my side very closely with Danielle. This is the best reason that I can come up with for raising my voice to a television set….and I’m sticking with it….unless someone comes up with a reason that makes more sense.

    Thanks for the RECAP! Very entertaining.

    • kk says:

      I think Caroline has the same creedo: “you’re with me or against me” with all her family talk. I don’t really see the difference.

      Isn’t Teresa in a lot more legal battles far more than Danielle from the state & fed for bankruptcy, fraud, and slumlord practices?

      Danielle’s legal battles are filed civil suits to protect herself, Dina’s slander about Lexi (Danielle had to have won for an injunction to pass & issue a gag order) and preventing the porn. These legal battles are NOT CRIMINAL charges like Teresa’s. Or the Manzo’s lawsuits for the not paying bills and Ashley’s assualt.

      Didn’t Ashley threaten Christine on twitter. Maybe that is part of the reason she cries at school. I would believe Ashley has a few girls pick on Christine for her that are underage so Ashley can’t get in trouble with harassing a minor.

      I think they are ALL drama queens. I would never be friends with Danielle, but the verbal & physical abuse from these three is disgusting.

      If a man talked to his girlfriend the way they talk to Danielle & pulled her hair, he would be called emotionally & physically abusive. Just because Teresa & the Manzo’s are female doesn’t change the dynamics.

      • Hang on, kk…Teresa has criminal charges against her? Didn’t know that. Do you have a source? Thanks in advance.

        And Danielle’s lawsuits aren’t just her going after others. Quite a few are people coming after her for lies, child custody, etc., aren’t they? And why didn’t Danielle have the person who tried to blackmail her over that porn tape arrested? Maybe she was lying about that.

        While I don’t like any of these women and have had enough of this trainwreck of a cast (Teresa is the Tantrum Queen), Danielle is the really dangerous one here, IMO. She wants the negative attention and she goes for the jugular to get it. Look at her behavior, past and present–guns, drugs, kidnapping, stripping, prostitution, thugs on parole threatening violence over a table at a charity dinner–beats hair-pulling by a long shot, but that’s just me.

        I can’t even believe Bravo put the other women and their families in a show with such a sociopath. Her paranoid personality, lies, and behavior, seen just on this show, tell me all I need to know.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I think the OP was referring to the fact that the trustee has formally accused the Guidices of fraud in their bankruptcy petition filing which suggests that charges can be pending.

        • kk says:

          it was also stated in the last blog that T & J lost a court case involving slumlord practices which had to be brought by the State in defense of the renter.

          My understanding is that for their bankruptcy to be accepted they have to prove they can’t pay their debts and are being sued by corps & businesses stating they are hiding assets. Hiding assets is illegal.

          I have no idea if someone offered to sell her the sex tape to prevent it’s release or not. Is that blackmail to offer to sell a tape and all it’s copies. It feels like it, but legally offering to sell her the tapes so she owns them outright & would be in control of their release, may not be illegal. Maybe she twisted the words to say she was offered to buy them, couldn’t afford it and now they are being released.

          Don’t get me wrong. I just dislike all of them including Danielle. i think they are all dirty.

          Danielle is in a slander suit that Caroline Manzo told Dani’s ex that Dani said he r*ped on a bed or glass and he’s suing her. I don’t know of any custody trials for her daughters. I read Dani’s ex’s news report yesterday. I forgot the link. google yesterday’s date & dani news for the most recent info.

          They are dirty and crazy in different ways, but equally icky if you as me. I am done with this show after the next reunion. Off to shower.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        They are like a pack of hyenas. What they don’t realize is that Danielle is not easy prey….so they look even more stupid as they try to take her down!

    • emt2 says:

      I’ve actually heard Danielle apologize–she apologized for giving out that number to Dina’s ex, she apologized for the whole cancer benefit thing, etc.

      I have NEVER heard any of the other ladies apologize for ANYTHING. They just misdirect attention to Danielle or lie through their teeth. Point blank.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        If you apologize then it means you are admitting you did something wrong! They are not capable of admitting they are wrong and sadly they are not capable of accepting an apology either!

    • vilzvet says:

      Like Kelly! They think any attention or press is GOOD!

  3. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    from what i have been hearing the big shock at the end is Dani ISNT coming back
    well good for her for finally realizing just what a train wreck this show has become
    and without her what exactly can the show be about since they have spent the last two years of us against her being the main focus
    This may be the reason for Dani’s calmness
    I love Caroline as a rule but the last episode of teh season showed an ugly side to her that i am sure she is embarassed about
    Caroline your usually so smart and the voice of reason but how does calling someone you wish to drop charges for a family member Garbage even remotely seem like a good idea.
    which brings us to Jacki ,its all because of the charges that she really turned on Dani and she is in such denial about her daughters part in all this
    ive personally seen some of ashleys threats against Dani no they werent death threats but they could be taken that way
    she would post them on facebook and then the next day they would magicly dissappear
    as for Theresa she proved once and for just how low rent she really is its ok for her trash Dani 24/7 and she does who is she kidding she never talks about her thats all we ever see her doing
    its really a shame because if not for her temper Theresa seems like the one you could have the most fun with
    Dina was wise to stay away from the show
    Kim G omg she is a whack job Hint Hint Andy heres tour next break out star
    ps Kim G did NOT appear at jersey city’s gay pride i was there all day she was a no show (and it was one of the most pleasent prides ive ever been to so thank goodness no housewives drama there )

    • Rawhideaz says:

      I’d have to say that I think Danielle won’t be invited back. She’s TOO much of a liability with her guns, thugs and craziness. I think the shock will be that Carolyn won’t be coming back. Just my guess.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Danielle could have showed up with the Manson family- but in the end despite the motley crew she hangs with, they aren’t the ones chasing people, assaulting people and needing to be phyiscally restrained.

        If anyone is a true liability, it’s Teresa.

        • Uh…I’m not excusing the bad behavior of screaming insults (which Danielle also does), hair-pulling, and ambiguous twitter-attacks, but you do know that motley crue of Danielle’s have rap sheets with convictions for criminal acts including violence, right?

          What am I missing here? Why are people giving Danielle a pass when her level of threat is way out of the pillow-throwing, hair-pulling league? You think she doesn’t want Teresa to touch her? Oh lordy, she’d love nothing better. Armed thugs/guards when meeting Dina or Caroline, filmed by a crew at a restaurant? You’re buying that? She’s BEGGING for someone to start something.

          You think that country club thing was all spontaneous? You did see the camera positions and the blocking, right? Teresa and Jac in the hallway as Danielle and her entourage came walking by–totally set-up. The women screaming at each other–yawn. Then Danielle starts running out like she’s being chased, but she’s the one leading everyone else on the “chase.” It’s an illusion–for drama, for TV, for attention. Ashley was the wild card, and oh, did Danielle play that up–and she meant for every naive sucker to buy her tears. I had my nose busted by a bully when I was 13 and didn’t cry like she did.

          Danielle calls the police and files a lawsuit if someone so much as farts in her direction. She’s got so many people fooled.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I’m not fooled and would be the first one to say a lot of reality television is contrived. The Hill’s was one of the first shows that shattered the myth that it was just watching life happen.

            But if it’s all just an illusion as you suggested= then Danielle’s rogues are no more of a threat than any of the other cast of players.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          agree 150% – Teresa has no boundries and she is violent and she should go!

    • emt2 says:

      The other women issued an ultimatum to Bravo: either Danielle goes or they will go. That’s it. It has nothing to do with liability, etc. Since when does Bravo care about liability, guns, thugs, etc.? They don’t. They have no morals. It probably seemed like it was a cost-effect thing—it would cost more to keep Danielle than to let her go.

      I disagree about Caroline showing her true colors only last week. All last season, especially during the famous table flipping dinner, it was obvious that Caroline protects her family and will lie and do whatever else she has to do to protect her family. They stick together like thieves. I don’t understand the Caroline love. I think she is a hypocrite, controlling, self-important and obnoxious. Last year, Caroline hated Ashley and would barely even recognize her as being part of the family. She constantly criticized Jacqueline and said that Ashley was a bad kid due to Jacqueline’s poor parenting skills. Now this year, Ashley is “one of us” and can do no wrong? GTFOH!

      • JenD says:

        I don’t think Bravo fired Danielle, i think she quit.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I agree – she quit and the others leaked it. But it ain’t over cause Bravo will do what is best for their ratings. There is no show without Danielle – Teresa can not bring the drama in an intelligent, watchable way. And I am inclined to think that if the others got letters they would have produced them – as of yet they haven’t.

  4. BKA amia009 says:

    Im glad I didnt watch last night.

  5. ilovelynn says:

    great blog beth! I didn’t watch the show and after reading your blog I don’t have to.

    to wall st. lady: tell your friend wsm NOT all italian woman are loud and rude! also, these woman and the jersey shore trash are not indicitive of the italian woman of nj.

    dear boston: love you! what do the symbols mean after caroline, jac and theresa’s names on the last blog?

  6. milviewer says:

    COMPLETELY OFFENDED by the use of “Jew” in your reference to Teresa and her name. It is NEVER appropriate to use ethnic words as an insult. Shame on you.

    • vilzvet says:

      I doubt that was an ethnic slur, because Teresa obviously is not Jewish. It is a phonetic play on the incorrect way her name has been pronounced by Danielle, etc. “Jew-Dice” but in Teresa’s cookbook she said it is actually “JU-dee-Chay”. Do not be offended…

      • NormaJean says:

        I watched season 1 yesterday and Teresa herself pronounced it as jew-dice.

        • emt2 says:

          Exactly.

          Teresa even explained the pronunciation of her last name on a show and she said Jew- like Jewish people, and then Dice.

          • vilzvet says:

            Well, she changed it by the time her book came out, she must’ve realized real Italians know that the Americanized pronunciation is incorrect. She no longer says Jew-Dice…not that it really matters, she’s got bigger problems than that, teehee!

            • Katie says:

              When someone writes “Jew Dice Clay” they are most certainly trying to draw a comparison between Teresa and Andrew Dice Clay. It was not written with phonetic intent. My goodness people, that’s like Danielle saying she was sincere towards Christopher at the the Brownstone.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      What? That’s how they pronounce their name Jew-Dice.

      If you find it offensive take it up with them.

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        It bothers me a little too.

        I always wonder is there isn’t some type of anti-semitism going on with it because it’s always Theresa haters that spell it out like that.

        • zoofeedingtime says:

          You have a very good point! It is a subtle form of anti-semitism.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          But Anti-semitism directed at who?

          The Guidice’s aren’t Jewish and the name means Judge.

          If anything I think the phonetically spelling of their name as an empathize is probably holds the same significance as when a parent uses their child’s full name when they are scolding them.

          • zoofeedingtime says:

            Phonetically it could be “Ju”.

            Anti-semitism in an indirect way, not directed at anyone person but at a group. It is hard to explain exactly. The whole feel of the blog is a demeaning hatred toward Teresa and then that word/spelling is used as if to emphasis the point. Intentional or not I can see why someone might take offense.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              People can be offended by many things- that is a subjective emotion. In theory a hardcore atheist can be offend by someone saying “Bless You” to them after they sneeze because of the religious inferences- but most people would think that would be rather silly.

              But ‘Anti-Semitic’ is a pretty serious allegation that should be substantiated on something more than a spelling of a name.

              Jill Zarin is under the delusion that her lack of book sales is an indication that anti-Semitisn is rampant, just because she feels it, it doesn’t add any measurable validity to her statements.

      • Yes, it’s good of you to try and start something, but it’s purely for phonetics, not racism.

        • Maxine49 says:

          Beth, I loved the Jew-Dice Clay reference…it was brilliant! Please write more guest blogs. Thanks for the laughs.

    • plainviewsue says:

      I agree. Even if it’s how Teresa said it was pronounced, it is offensive how you write it. For me, I look forward to Lynn’s take. You write the why Teresa speaks. Totally not enjoyable.

      • Zoey says:

        Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and we all (mostly) do so respectfully here, so I just want to say I loved the blog and it’s edginess.
        There are going to be people who are highly sensitive to certain words even when not spoken in a negative way, and I don’t understand why they look for something negative. Something makes them uncomfortable, and that is within themselves.

        • Yes, and I did Tweet about 8 thousand times this week that if youre the sensetive type? Just skip over my blog. I don’t get the tiniest bit offended. In fact, remember my name so you can skip over it next week if I decide to do it again, kay? BTW, Can anyone else think of another way to phonetically spell Giudice BETTER than JEWDICE?

          • BonBon says:

            Loved your bitter “take” on it. Am Jewish and thought perhaps it was a play on words,because of the Gia comment about Jews. Still, it kind of hurt a bit seeing it so much.
            Ju-Dice would sound the same. But, if you were being satyrical, then it was very appropriate because of the Jewish reference during the tomato smashing and Gia’s comments (which obviously came from her ignorant mother), yadablada.
            If you don’t hate or dislike Jews, go for it. If you do, then re-examine why you do and reflect and maybe learn something new about yourself. xxxooo

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I’ve seen “Jew-Dice” used many times and not just on this blog-I’m actually pretty sure I have even seen Jac tweet that T’s name is pronounce “Jew-Dice”. I find it a bit suspicious that now suddenly it has become an issue when it’s the guest blogger who has used it.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          This is the first time that I have seen this spelled out on this blog.

          If it had been posted by ANYONE I would have spoken up.

          There is nothing uncomfortable in myself to object to a term that may be anti semitic. I am having trouble following your logic.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            There was an entire discussion about Teresa’s name and how it was pronounced- and “Jew-Dice” was posted.

            My reasoning as follows- there seems to be a lot of people up in arms about the guest blogger and are coming down on her for something that other posters have gotten a pass on.

            • vilzvet says:

              Again, there is a whole paragraph in Teresa’s book about Jew-Dice vs. JU-dee-chay. She has since corrected it to JU-dee-chay, no matter how it was shown on TV. And for the record Teresa herself spelled it that way (Jew…)! No harm done IMO.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                I would also like to point out the guest bloggers actual comment was “Jew-Dice Clay”= it was a play on words referencing the comedian Andrew Dice Clay who is known to crude and uses a lot of profanity.

  7. Had Enough! says:

    As I thought, there was no mandatory mediation in the court case between Danielle and Kevin Maher. It was a settlement conference between the lawyers.

    http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2010/08/real-housewives-nj-danielle-staubs-ex-responds-to-her-bs-motion.html

    I read the motion. It is destined to fail because questions of fact are for the jury, and there are still plenty of facts in some degree of dispute or less than clear.

    The motion itself is bizarre in some places. It reads like Danielle wrote it or at least had a hand in it. No lawyer would write something entirely immaterial (from a legal point of view) like this: “As such, Plaintiff, KEVIN MAHER, has established himself to be nothing more than a person seeking to capitalize on his ex-wife, Ms. STAUB’s, recent celebrity. Plaintiff has made it a point to not only broadcast these alleged
    defamatory statements on a national platform, but also to make money on it. While
    the typical machinations between ex-spouses are typically a private affair, Plaintiff
    has taken the opportunity to bring their combative relationship to the public eye.”

    Further, the lawyers have completely misconstrued defamation law. It doesn’t matter that the statements were not published in the article in People. The law doesn’t say that defamation occurs when you make a defamatory statement to a lot of people, or in a magazine or newspaper article, or on the internet. You can make a defamatory statement to only one person. Your damages are probably nil in that case, but it is still a valid cause of action. If the reporter has said (in a deposition) or is going to say at trial that the statements were made to him, that is evidence and it is up to a jury to decide if the reporter is telling the truth.

    I am also guessing that one or more of the Manzos testified in a deposition that Staub said some or all of these things to them. Indeed, the article says that “First, the motion claims that Maher couldn’t produce a witness who can testify that Staub made false statements about him. He tells us that cast member Caroline Manzo testified that Staub told her while other cast members were present that he “had raped her on broken glass, that I inserted my gun in her and played Russian roulette and that I had hung her dog.” Then “on a different occasion that the mechanism of murdering her dog was with a gunshot so there were two variations of how I killed her dog.” It also seems from the article that the People reporter hasn’t yet given a deposition.

    Maher believes Staub’s motions are meant to stop him from interviewing witnesses who can further prove her allegedly slanderous statements, such as Mark Dagostino, a People Magazine writer who she allegedly told the statements to and Staub, herself, who has yet to be deposed.

    I also knew it was BS because this alleged mediation was to take place in Orange County. The case is pending in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. Maher lives in L.A. County and of course, Staub doesn’t live in California at all. There would be no reason for anything to take place in Orange County.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      There is also an Orange County in New York-

      • Sha2000 says:

        And one in Florida,

      • Had Enough! says:

        The case is pending in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. None of the parties is a resident of the state of New York. Even if the court in California has jurisdiction over someone in New Jersey (as it decided it does in this case), it can’t order them to go to a third state for a meeting.

  8. Mel says:

    Finally we have as to why Dina would not elaborate on what Danielle did on last years reunion, THERE WAS A GAG ORDER. Interesting to note that Danielle is the only one that could talk about this and failed to mention that she put a gag order on Dina.

    I am so happy that Caroline did not let Danielle “not answer her questions”. She almost caught her on most of her lies. Another interesting fact is that when someone has a sex tape out “BOTH” participates has to sign off before it gets released and both participates get a cut of the sales. That is why Kim Kardashian and Kendra are still profiting from the tapes, even though they are denying they signed off on the release. So Danielle denying that she is profiting from or signed off on the release is yet another lie. She also DID say in an interview that this was filmed last August so yet another lie.

    As for the charity event, the father of the child went on tape and stated that not only did Danielle fail to give anything to the charity, but she used his family to get back at the Manzo’s. This women brought an entire disgusting entourage, with men in Hell’s angel’s jackets to intimidate and embarrass the Manzo’s. Then expected to have a table to accommodate rowdy uninvited, unpaid for guest. She went there to start trouble. Notice that none of the women were there when they find out she was coming. I guess the wanted to AVOID the drama that Danielle wanted to cause and allow this family to be the spotlight for the charity. Unfortunately Danielle did not have the best interest of the family at heart, and it showed! Caroline’s son was nothing but cordial to these people and there is no reason for Danielle to have behaved the way she did toward him.

    Teresa is a low class B*tch and i could not believe she pushed Andy like that and got away with it. Although i don’t like Danielle or her behavior throughout the season, Teresa makes me want to throw up. At least Danielle maintained her composure! I could not believe how awful T behaved. Caroline got all of her points across without shouting and acting like an idiot. Learn some manners Teresa. The idea that Joe got wasted after the accident is complete BULL. It is so pathetic that you are still repeating this nonsense. Both Teresa and DAnielle have something in common. They do not own their behavior and continue to lie and spin there way through a conversation. I would have respected both women if they genuinely spoke to us about their mistakes and challenges. People are not perfect, i get that. However, admitting to what they did wrong and showing some humanity comes a long way.

    Although I enjoyed watching Caroline handle Danielle and all of her crap. She needs to stop defending Teresa. In the end it is gonna bit her in the ass. Teresa does not take criticism well and will turn on anyone who does not agree with her. She is a pathetic looser and I will never forgot her nasty blogs about sonja and bethanny last season. If i were caroline i would watch my back against this broad.

    Jacqueline was pretty boring, hope she adds more depth in the second part of the reunion.

    • Kristy says:

      Thank you for this entry, I wish this was the blog, I know this wasn’t lynn’s but a guest blog but I have noticed a downward trend lately- what used to be a blog that called out housewives point by point and exposed their lies and hypocrisy is now just a jumbled mess of name calling and bitching. I am not above hating housewives but it used to be done with class and intelligence and now its like we’re in the mud with them, and I feel dirty.

      It’s refreshing to read a response to the show that is well organized, thoughtful, and ofcorse with a dash of hate thrown in just for good measure.

      • plainviewsue says:

        Perfectly written Kristy.

        • zoofeedingtime says:

          Yes, very well stated and I share your view.

          • Ladies again, I have stated about a hundred times, PLEASE just SKIP OVER when you see my name. Mine is a little edgier and a lot more colorful and not for everybody. I’m not the least bit offended that you don’t care for it but next week, just skip it when you see my name, okay? Isn’t that fair?

            • Maxine49 says:

              I’ll say it again, Beth—your blog was genius and absolutely hysterical. Looking forward to reading you again.

      • sarah says:

        I said the same thing about the last guest blog, and she went off like Teresa. I’m glad that I was correct when I stated that “other people feel the same way.” not starting any drama this time so I hope Lynn approves this comment.

    • NYCer says:

      The gag order was not why Dina couldn’t talk at the reunion. Dina didn’t want it brought up at the reunion because it involved her ex and Lexi.

      The cease and desist letter (what they called gag order last night) was issued long after–when Dina gave an interview about Danielle and tried to spin things, Danielle’s lawyers called her out.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      @Another interesting fact is that when someone has a sex tape out “BOTH” participates has to sign off before it gets released and both participates get a cut of the sales.

      That is not necessary true, Paris Hilton certainly didn’t sign off on the release of her sex tape- neither did Colin Farrel. Unfortunately, those unwilling to agree to the release face a legal battle- and by the time they (and if) they are able to get an injunction to stop the sale and distribution the damage is already done.

    • SeriouslyWTH says:

      You do not have to sign off on a sex tape. As long as it is not listed as an invasion of privacy, it’s o.k. If your a celebrity it’s all o.k. because you are in the public eye forsaking your privacy rights according to the courts.

      You sign off on getting paid for distribution. the Girls gone Wild founder set the legal precedence I believe. The only way to screw the distributor is to demand payment. You can’t stop it from being released, even if it was created for your own personal enjoyment the Owner of the tape can release it.

      If you are under 18 when you are filmed it’s child porn and that is illegal.

    • Zoey says:

      Wow, did we watch the same show?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ah just wait until we get to all things Ashley – Jacq so deserves to get her chops busted! And Caroline can’t be too happy with her bringing up the gag order on Dina – kinda bursts that bubble dontcha think……

  9. ilovelynn says:

    vilzvet: give me a hint, you are obviously much quicker than me!

  10. Had Enough! says:

    Someone on the last blog asked for a copy of the bankruptcy petition. Here is a link to part of it (the list of unsecured creditors):

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/42323384/Teresa-and-Joe-Giudice-of-Real-Housewives-of-New-Jersey-Bankruptcy-Filing

    To get the whole thing, you need to log in with your facebook account.

    Technically she wasn’t lying. The debt to Nordstrom (which is listed as “Nordstrom Bank”) is $8,084, not 100k. Wonder if Andy deliberately misstated the numbers so she could deny them without lying.

  11. Amber...Real Wife says:

    The Reunion blew on so many levels. The constant pile up on Danielle was never stopped by Andy. He seemed content to watch the fireworks, did little to redirect and it seemed was allowing Caroline to control which questions would be answered and when to move on. Did you ever?

    After Theresa’s monstrous blow up, in which her yells sounded like feeding time at the zoo, Caroline kept saying Theresa was giving Danielle what she wanted. I don’t for a second believe it. Theresa wanted to yell, assault and possibly batter Danielle. It is Danielle’s litigious nature that has kept her safe from a Guidice beatdown. Caroline blamed Theresa’s behaviour on Danielle, stating “I wouldn’t be your friend if you acted like this”. Guess what Caroline. SHE DOES ACT LIKE THAT! THAT IS WHO SHE IS! She is only letting her glimpse it with Danielle. I am sure she acts that way with others who she is angry at.

    Theresa says “I don’t like people holding me back!”. Who says this? PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE HELD BACK! How many times have people attempted to hold her back in life that this is the rule during her angry confrontations. So people have felt the need to intercede, and try to stop her from attacking others countless times huh? She is certifiable. Caroline needs to pick better friends, or at least be real and admit that Theresa is an animal. She could say it’s not cute or acceptable, but I like her better than Danielle.

    • vilzvet says:

      Feeding time at the zoo! Line of the morning!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Teresa needed to be held back – she was clearly out of control and IMO if Danielle would have answered her when she was in her face – Teresa would have hit her! All of them push buttons and only one of them knows how to maintain her cool under fire.

  12. Olivia says:

    I cannot accept that Danielle is either “truthful” or capable of “telling it like it is”. She has demonstrated all too often that she is incapable of either label. What she has demonstrated is her ability to lance the boil ass effectively as do her “enemies”. Can’t blame her for whatever the “nephew” comment signifies since she knew by declaring that she would incite.

    There is no “choosing up sides” for me in this debacle as all these “pitbulls” have their own reasons to hang their heads in shame, something that does not seem to affect anyone of them. What Bravo presented last night was nothing more than a cockfight and they have earned the title of the most despicable network on t.v. In my estimation, and I have no reason to change that impression, they are as close to offering mainstream porn as anything currently offered by “late night viewing”.

    Danielle is disgusting, there is no two ways about it. I don’t need Jacqueline to underscore that point by offering tidbits of the girls embarrassment in school since it makes complete sense. Danielle tells us what a “good mother” she is but there is not a grain of truth in that statement since those kids seem pretty uncomfortable around her when the camera is on. Christine eyes show her fright and Jillian peers at her mother from a less than “loving” mood. Living with a psychopath they have learned to be guarded in determining the moods that may set this lunatic off. Her antics show just how indifferent she is to their emotional needs and the shame her behavior must bring upon them should not be discounted.

    But it is Caroline Manzo who deserves the award for the most duplicitous character on tv and that includes the likes of Kim G whose campaign is self evident. Caroline sits there on her lofty ass like some Mother Superior casting down judgment on Danielle but completely ignoring the likes of that animal, Teresa Guidice. Teresa whose impulse control is dialed down to a level that is beyond loathesome. We saw only a few minutes of the staff attempting to calm her down but I would bet that it took at least an hour to restore her to some semblance of sanity as she cranked out her endless obscenities and violent behavior before they could proceed. For Caroline to find any excuse for this attack speaks volumes for her as a person. As long as it is ladled out by her “family” there is no problem. Anyone else is labeled “garbage” as she poses herself as some vehicle of propriety. Who is she kidding?

    They are all equally horribe, IMHO, and to try to spin that one side or the other “scored” points is offensive. They have managed over two unwholesome seasons of this pathetic series to prove over and over that they live in a world of violence, lies, sex, and fraud and they did so for whatever specious reasons they choose to offer. Sham marriages, poor parenting, shameless displays of violence, vulgar language, dress and drunk driving. The worst elements that society can claim.

    NY Housewives is the “pits” of programming entertainment. It should be abolished and the filmed episodes burned into a heap of ash. There is nothing to celebrate here nor the women to be offered any form of accolades by agreeing to appear in this abomination.

    There is not one redeemable feature of this show and it needs to be laid to rest.

    • Sha2000 says:

      There is no “choosing up sides” for me in this debacle

      I agree 100% with your assessment above & it bothers me that these women claim to be so “concerned” with each others children when in reality they do more damage by mentioning them at all. What happens in school today when their emotions at school were mentioned last night? How much worse does it need to get?

      All well said once again Olivia & you have my vote to be the next guest blogger : )

    • Anne Jacques says:

      Olivia,
      Excellent take, always always the voice of reason and intelligence. You should be the guest blogger. I always appreciate your point of view. And truly I have never experience women like this anywhere on the planet. Not sure what I would do if I had a Teresa screaming in my face like that. Andy was just a wuss and I am very disappointed in his bias. Oh well, KILL THIS MADDNESS. I am over it.

      • Sha2000 says:

        That’s 2 votes for Olivia. What do you say O?

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          3 votes for Olivia.

          While I appreciate everyone’s contributions here, I have to say that I really look forward to reading Olivia’s prospective.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Right, I may not always agree with her perspective, but she has great insight & knows how to communicate it in a way that almost gives you a visual. My guess would be that you have a background in writing Olivia?

      • I agree, well said Olivia.

        Sorry for a shameless plug, but for comic relief, last week I wrote a (short) blog about the Housewives series which may explain the government plot involved–“Free Richard Lawson!” (I think you can click on my name and get there…?)

        OT: Countess Luanne is on TV Guide channel right now doing an Emmy fashion review with some Z-listers.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      They are all losers, posers, liars and have questionable parenting skills – children, regardless of their age, should not be on this show. This franchise has no one to root for and everyone to hate….
      Bravo really played us with the Jack in the Box Teresa at the very beginning of the show – we had to watch to see if it would happen again. They came ready to fight – couldn’t even get through the new mommy moments without being offensive. They all come from a place of hate!

    • humbruh says:

      Preach! I couldn’t agree with you more!

    • BonBon says:

      So well said. I am certain you meant NJ (not NY) Housewives. Although, I think they are all becoming a bit cumbersome as I continue to watch.
      You write so well and succinctly to the point. You even changed my mind about Carolie: how true that she would call Danielle garbage but not Teresa, as Teresa she considers part of her familia.
      I commend you.

  13. 201MaryF says:

    I have to say I don’t like this guest blogger at all. I visit this site frequently, and I enjoy reading it very much. I don’t care for the language the guest blogger uses, among other things.

    I am still a big fan of Lynn and all who comment here. Very disappointed this morning.

    • vilzvet says:

      Well, you heard that same kind of language bleeped out on the show last night! Tons of it, should not surprise you that many people unfortunately speak that way in their daily lives.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I agree but maybe I am just desensitized after Teresa’s profanity filled tirade.

      • harleysmom says:

        I personally didn’t hear the “bleeped” language on the show last night because I didn’t watch it. Of course, the language is only a small part of why I won’t watch NJ. On the other hand, I love this site and visit daily. I also did not appreciate this particular guest blog – the “tone” of this blog was too reminiscent of the NJ cast; foul language with name-calling, but not informative or entertaining,

        Why would I read a blog about a show I don’t watch? I love the community here. I always learn something from the participants and feel like I know each of you. Also, to my pleasure, members continue to discuss other topics and shows that I am interested in.

        I wasn’t personally offended by the blog, I just didnt’ think it was interesting by itself. Hope it’s OK to share my 2 cents worth.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Well it was a good attempt& it isn’t easy to write a blog, but I agree we can do with out the language. Often the funniest things said here have no crudities
      attached.

      • Anne Jacques says:

        Ditto… sick of the language. Ugh

        • 201MaryF says:

          One reason I come here to read about the housewives so often is that the Bravo message board for NJ is full of “crude” language. I just prefer not to read that. I always feel more comfortable here. Hence, my comment this morning. I do not like this guest blogger at all, mostly because of the language.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            “Mostly because of the language” suggests there are some other underlying issues.

            I don’t know much about the guest blogger but it seems like there is some back story that has some people upset. Someone got on her over using the phrase “Jew-Dice Clay” which was as ridiculous as JZ calling the Amazon reviewer an ‘anti-Semite’.

            • 201MaryF says:

              No, Rabble, no underlying issues here. I’m just a normal mom who watches all the Housewife series. The guest blogger uses alot of crude language, which you don’t often see on this blog and comments. Just stating my opinion and the way I see it.

              • sarah says:

                Ditto

              • Quincy IL says:

                I understand your feeling about the guest blogger. It’s taste in humor. This commedian is abrasive and I enjoy intellectual humor as some of you probably have noticed in my posts and my responses to your clever quips here.

              • WindyCityWondering says:

                me too – I like tongue in cheek observations rather than constant cussing.

      • LynnBird says:

        I have to agree; the language was rather crude and made it difficult to read.
        Just because they curse on the show doesn’t make it acceptable. I appreciate the blogger taking the time; I just wish it was peppered with so much profanity.

        Also, I don’t see how anyone can choose sides. They are all crude, rude and behave atrociously.

        Danielle lies as easily as she breathes
        Teresa has no self control and it shouldn’t be OK. How can they complain about Danielle and not say anything about Teresa’s bad behavior.
        Jac – useless
        Caroline – In this case I think she is letting the others bring her down to their level and she is hypocritical.

        All-in all my least favorite HW show, with Atlanta 2nd.

    • zoofeedingtime says:

      I totally agree with you. I started just skimming it. I know the blog title has the word “hate” in it but the content has never been THAT hateful. This guest blog was disgusting.

      • Anne Jacques says:

        I need a shower… got in the dirt with her. We are better than that.

        • Tootsie says:

          Agree whole heartedly. Particularly the “c” word which drives me bananas. No need to go that low.

      • sarah says:

        If you thought this was bad check out her blog dedicated to Teresa a few weeks back. Completly nasty and out of line.

      • Little_Rhino says:

        I agree. The writing of this blog is unnecessarily vulgar, and the blogger appears to enjoy insulting people for the sake of insulting them. “Tuna breath”? Where did that come from? I also found the “Jew” references offensive, but mostly I don’t get why anyone cares how T pronounces her last name.

        • sarah says:

          Right, but don’t you dare insult her. She can’t handle it. She’ll blow up. Apparently she has a dose of that good ol’ Caroline mentality. You know the whole “I can insult other people, but don’t you dare say anything bad about me or my family.”

  14. I don't have my notes says:

    Good blog Beth!

    I wonder if Teresa was medicated when she came back to sit on the sofa after going crazy and getting up and yelling in Danielle’s face. She was very snarky and animated before her outburst, but then sat there all subdued and calm afterward, especially when speaking about her money troubles. She just doesn’t strike me as someone who has any self-control with out medication.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Most likely she calmed down with the violent aggression towards Danielle, when Caroline informed them that Danielle’s partner Lori, attempted to get to Theresa during the first melee. After that she remained in her seat. She must have realized that while she was attacking Danielle, she could’ve been sneaked and attacked by someone else. Danielle was not alone.

      • vilzvet says:

        Woohoo, now THAT would be a match, Lori and Teresa, I would not want to mess with Lori!

      • Quincy IL says:

        Uncontrolled rage, great strength… endorphins and adrenaline.

        Teresa’s brain chemistry is screwed up. Believe me, she does this at home and with the kids. Think that Teresa and Joe haven’t had huge fights that end up in violent encounters…. I think they do.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        yeah that would have changed the odds – 3 against 1 to 3 against 2 which is totally not fair in their minds

    • Damn it, Lynn! You forgot to tell me it was Christian Blog week! Shit! So let me get this straight….all these women who are glued to all of these trash talking skanks are offended by my blog? That is too freaking awesome. I have to go laugh my ass off for about ten hours and then spell Hypocrisy with M & M’s on my couch and eat them all up. Smell ya later!

      • Marie Lawrence says:

        Looks like someone took a page out of the “Reasonable Reactions” book by Kelly. What’s next, are you going to skip off to your room and cry, then laugh, then cry again, after the next person disagrees. I heard that kelly is accepting applications for VP of Kelly Land. Couldn’t hurt to sign up. Bring jelly beans though, No M&M’s.

      • Maxine49 says:

        Love ya, Beth….you are too damn funny… I don’t get this anti-Beth reaction…really?

  15. kk says:

    Caroline Manzo with her own quest for fame and acceptance of Teresa, outing of tiny’s murder, and association with indicted friends, and being on TV with Danielle, and her distasteful mouth spitting hate has SCREWED any chances of Albie getting into law school. There is only so many slots of law school and entrance is NOT easy.

    There is plenty of fame whore lawyers who get disbarred or hide after threats of disbarment. After you become a lawyer is one thing, but with limited openings and approval needed for entry by Academia (very high standards to get in), he is screwed.

    What law school would want any of these nuts kids after this reunion? Seriously, what college would want reporters, bloggers, tv cameras, and other students filming & recording Albie’s every move to sell whatever they catch him doing. All that notoriety will screw Alumni donations that all colleges & universities need to survive.

    • vilzvet says:

      Yep, Caroline did not have much positive news about her son, it is August and she said nothing seems to be on the horizon. Too bad…

  16. Patty says:

    I have never in my life known anyone who would act like Teresa. These women blame Danielle for Teresa’s crazy but that has to be in you to come out, no one can make you do anything that is not in your nature to do. Who are they going to blame next season if Danielle is not there. Teresa pushing Andy, was that assult? Caroline is so heavy handed, don’t talk aout my sister but I can talk about your children, in fact I can talk about whatever I want because I’m perfect. I thought Dina was even more heavy handed than Caroline if that is possible, Danielle meet me to talk but you are not allowed to talk you have to just sit and listen to me go on and on about how horrible you are and how fabulous I am. BTW Danielle does not have the power to take Dina’s daughter away. Jacqueline what can you say about her maybe the tight dress was causing a lack of oxygen to her brain. These three women are shocking to watch, they make Danielle look saintly by comparison. The trio of Jacqueline, Caroline and Teresa want to treat Danielle like she is not a person like she has no rights at all and the viewing audience is supposed to think that is just fine. They can say whatever they want about Danielle, Danielle’s children, Danielle’s life, what Danielle should have done, what Danielle should have said, and they can say whatever they want to Danielle, but how dare Danielle say anything to defend herself. They can come after Danielle physically, get in her face and scream at the top of their lungs at her, throw things at her but how dare anyone try and defend her. That would have to be reported to Andy by Caroline. After seeing these three in action I am just not buying the it’s all Danielle’s fault line. The sad thing is that these three seem to think they have the moral high ground and that the viewing audience will agree with them because they tell us that Danielle is at fault. The fact is what have we ever seen Danielle do to them? All I have ever seen on this show was what they did to Danielle. How delusional can three people be? There is no high ground here this was three ganging up against one and it was just sad. These three do not come off looking good. At least at the OK corral it wasn’t three against one Caroline. What’s going to happen when their scape goat Danielle is no longer on the show and they have no one to blame. With Danielle off the show will these three even continue to be friends? My guess is that cracks between these three will form when they no longer have someone to focus all that ugliness and hatred on. Plus with Danielle off the show it will be boring, Kim G–I wouldn’t watch her for a second. As for Danielle she seemed to me to be grace under fire on part one of the reunion. She kept her dignity while those around her did not. As for Danielle wanting Teresa to act like she did, I don’t think so Caroline.

    • Zoey says:

      Well said!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      what do you think a police officer would say if after Teresa’s tirade her excuse was it was Danielle’s fault cause I hate her????
      Caroline also saw Teresa out of control at the table flip and the country club….so this wasn’t the first time she saw this behavior! IF there is a next season – Jacq will have to chose between the family and Teresa …..

      • humbruh says:

        I’ve been saying the same thing for the last couple of weeks! If it does turn out that Danielle doesn’t return, Caroline’s venome will slowly become directed at Teresa & the rest of the family will follow.

    • Maxine49 says:

      Patty, you said it perfectly. I wholeheartedly agree with you.

  17. Kelyy_Has_Big_Shoulders says:

    Ok I have to agree last night these women made Danielle look like a Class Act.
    The whole thing was disgusting they have nothing to discuss nothing to talk about it’s all screaming and yelling and cursing. I have no words for Teresa. How about Caroline saying that anyone who blames Editing is full of it.
    If thats the case Caroline then why are you such buddies with Jill? I mean Jill is a Vile evil woman and blamed editing for her behavior.

  18. Olivia says:

    As much as I hate this show I admit to wanting to know more about “the nephew”. It just does not make much sense for Teresa go bonkers about this remark that could have easily been ignored what with all the other accusations that were flinging back and forth and them screaming over one another.

    It is her insane reaction that is going to cause the problem for her since she is going to have to qualify her own violent outburst over a remark that could have gone unnoticed otherwise.

    • vilzvet says:

      Hey, she did ask on twitter “what questions do you want answered”, well I think we have a #1 Question!

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I’m curious if the elusive Tara had a baby boy. Could that be the “nephew”?

    • Sha2000 says:

      I think Teresa stopping her from discussing her nephew was an excuse to scream “do not bring up my family”. It was used as prelude warning so Danielle would not bring up Joe. Teresa seemed to go from zero to sixty in a second, seemed at first a bit staged on her part.

      • Sha2000 says:

        J tweeted this:

        “Of COURSE she aknowledged her nephews birth. She ADORES him. about 1 hour ago via web ”

        ??? Why is she answering for T ???

        • vilzvet says:

          Could be a cover…that there is no lovechild?

          • Sha2000 says:

            Now she tweeted:

            “No, there is no Tara or love child.Lol!Tamra from OC HW was out 2dinner w/us the night of accident,maybe that’s the blond pple saw”

            Apparently if you want a tweet back today J is the one.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              I don’t think anyone would mistake Tamra as a ‘young’ blond. I also don’t think he was bringing her to construction sites.

            • BonBon says:

              I think Jacqueline needs desperately to GET A HOBBY! She’s got nothing to do when she doesn’t have her botox appointments or the Blinky is stuck in Nicolas’ mouth. Please J, you’re so much better when you just shut the F up.

        • Cheri says:

          What nephew is she talking about? Her son is not T’s nephew they aren’t even related so what nephew?

          • Sha2000 says:

            The one Danielle brought up last night in the beginning of the reunion. She asked why Teresa hasn’t seen him.

            • AZ Girl says:

              I re-watched that scene. Why did Teresa goes crazy over a simple comment about her nephew? I think there is information out there about Teresa, Jacqueline and Caroline that Danielle knows through having them investigated and Danielle is not afraid to make it public. Danielle has nothing to lose. I think it has the other ladies freaked out.

              • zoofeedingtime says:

                Agree. And what really sticks out to me was when Teresa says “I want to know who she has been talking to”. There is definitely something they are trying to hide.

              • Quincy IL says:

                Could be a sister in law with a hatred of Teresa. Would you want your brother to be buried in debt by a wife with delusions of grandeur?

        • felony stupid says:

          seriously…wouldn’t it be plausible that between JJ and T they have many nieces and nephews so it is very easy to say “of course she acknowledged her newphew’s birth, she adores him!”.

          ‘Course Jaq may not be referring to the same “nephew” Danielle was referring to and I suspect Team Manzo knows this.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Teresa took awhile to realize exactly which “nephew” was being referred to and she lost it so conveniently to distract from what Danielle was really asking! It made me wonder why she went to the fertility clinic – thinking she was trying to up the odds of a BOY to trump the “nephew”…….

      • felony stupid says:

        yup.

        • felony stupid says:

          Windy – I think you are spot on.

          Another thought…T didn’t get Daneille’s meaning when she was asked “did you acknowledge the birth of your nephew?” T’s response was “which one of us is she talking to?”. That’s when either T or Jac (not sure which) said “of course she did…”. Then Danielle raised her eyebrow and said “really…?” That’s the moment I think T realized what “nephew” Danielle was referring to and blew her top.

          It took T a minute to realize where this conversation was going. Her reaction was a combo true freak out and cover up – get loud enough to drown out whatever else Danielle might say.

          Most annoying part of this? Danielle didn’t bring up the kids or the issue of not recognizing births of children. T and Jac did and had a field day going off on Danielle. I’m not defending D, but in this case, they started the attack and had to know D would fire back.

          • _therealmelissa says:

            I wondered if this nephew was a “little indiscretion” of her brother, perhaps not known about by her sister-in-law? Maybe no one really speaks about this “nephew” until Danielle announced him to the world. That would certainly air some family dirty laundry on national tv.

  19. bravofanfromday1 says:

    Great blog – I love the ones that read like you are watching the show with the blogger.

    I swear Teresa needs serious anger management. Danielle is a manipulator and absoutely disgusting but Teresa’s anger issues are just odd.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Danielle used the off set time to manipulate us, she got he digs in and didn’t have to respond to the other women. The tears were well done too.

      • felony stupid says:

        Hmmm…I don’t feel manipulated and trust, I’m not a Danielle fan (heck I’m not a fan of any of these women). I just think she coulnd’t get a word in edgewise with the 3 loons ganging up on her. The only way she could respond was when she was long with a camera in her face. JMO…

  20. Rollie says:

    I’m new here but have been lurking for weeks and love everyone on this site, Lynn and all of your opinions.

    I think I know what all that screaming was about by Teresa. A while back there was a blog pre-NJ Housewives premiere and it had a lot of commenters who know the clans. Here’s the site:

    http://oncommonground.blogspot.com/2008/04/real-housewives-of-new-jersey.html?commentPage=1

    Apparently Teresa and Joe’s sister hate each other and don’t speak. So Teresa has never seen her nephew. And I’m sure she freaked because that busted her bubble of always being about fambly.

  21. emt2 says:

    It’s funny that Jacqueline is so busy investigating what Danielle’s kids do at school. At least they go to school and didn’t almost fail out.

    Ashley has admitted that she hated New Jersey and was bullied a lot in high school and had transferred repeatedly because of it. She barely got her diploma and now she is spending her days on facebook harassing Danielle and Christine (who she is very jealous of, btw! Ashley stated last season that she wanted to be a model or an actress. Things that will PROBABLY not happen…).

    Jacqueline needs to be worried about what is going on in her own household. But, she is so quick to say that Ashley is an adult now and she doesn’t have any responsibility for what she does. Jacqueline had Ashley very young, was resentful and now is happy that she doesn’t really have to worry about her anymore. She can live in her nice home with her two young sons and nice husband. Ashley probably reminds her of her wasted youth and how far she has come and how she will not let Ashley mess up her new life.

    • Sha2000 says:

      How does she help those children by saying on camera they cry at school? That’s not concern in my book. If she really cared, that would be said privately. That was an out & out dig, & I guess payback for her daughter (deserving or not).

      • emt2 says:

        It was totally a dig at Danielle and the daughters. My point was that Ashley has cried plenty of times in school and Jacqueline needs to be more concerned about her children than Danielle’s.

        I thought Jacqueline was actually more gracious towards the children in the beginning–calling Christine, sending flowers about her cover story, etc. Why start throwing the kids under the bus now especially when you have a difficult daughter and difficult relationship with her.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Agree Emt

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Ashley probably got very jealous of her mother’s attention towards Christine – Ashley likely started alot of bullying/hateful activity towards Christine and gloated to her mom everytime she made Christine cry. And as for Jacq having Ashley at an early age – sorry good parents and bad parents come with all ages! Jacq is a poor excuse and negative roll model for her daughter and while she can say she has no control over Ashley because she is an adult she is supporting her nasty ass and enabling her to do all the damage she does.

        • Quincy IL says:

          She sent flowers to Christine, but did she do it for the show? She was already having problems with Danielle.

  22. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    I have to disagree that Danielle seemed to be the most sane of the bunch. No, she was just the calmest. Danielle knows what she’s doing and what buttons to push. Teresa wants a knock down and by Danielle being calm it made her look good and Teresa a raving lunatic, which she is.

    Danielle says she gave $6,000 at the fundraiser. Easy way to prove it; show the canceled check. Easy peasy. Until I see it I don’t believe her. I will take the word of the father on this one.

    The whole sex tape….don’t believe her here either. She did not film that three years ago. Come on! We’re not stupid.

    Then Danny Pro……”I only film with him,” yeah right. Interesting tidbit. Danielle’s ex was married at the time that they met. He divorced his wife and married Danielle. Danny was married and then filed for divorce after meeting Danielle. See a pattern? Also, (from Absurd to sublime) regarding her divorce:

    “She was married to Staub for about 12 years. He is paying child support, tuition goes directly to the school because Danielle was not paying the school, using the money for herself. He has to pay spousal support for another 3 years. (She’d better step up the gold-digging!) He did remarry late last year. He does see the girls on a regular basis and is trying to get custody of at least one of them on a full time basis. One of them wants to live with him full time. The divorce settlement is sealed and that is one of the reasons Bravo had to hold off airing the show, along with the fact he held off signing the agreement for the girls to appear on the show. “

  23. emt2 says:

    Some of Andy’s tweet:

    Half of you think I’m too tough on Danielle and half think I am too tough on Teresa. I try to be fair to all..
    about 11 hours ago via ÜberTwitter

    My response: You need to try to be more fair because you receive a big, fat F!

    I can’t say I was looking forward to grilling Teresa about her finances…
    about 11 hours ago via ÜberTwitter

    My response: Why? You seem to enjoy grilling Danielle about everything. Are you afraid that Caroline/Dina will be mad at you for asking Teresa questions?

    Danielle’s original outfit (purple) arrived midway through taping, so she went with the tank and sequined skirt combo
    about 12 hours ago via ÜberTwitter

    My response: Well that explains the outfit. At least she rode with it, even if she did look like a $2 hooker. Can you imagine if that had happened to Teresa, her dress was late. She would have refused to tape.

    • Sha2000 says:

      He certainly grilled Jill a lot longer & tougher than Teresa, but then I doubt he was worried about Jill punching him in the nose. Seems unfair.

      • emt2 says:

        It was unfair. I wonder why? I think that Andy likes the Manzos for some reason. Maybe because they are connected to the entertainment world a part from Real Housewives? Doesn’t make sense.

        Andy looked like a complete asshole and I’m sure that no one respects him. Jerry Springer but with a more smug look on his face.

        • Sha2000 says:

          “Maybe because they are connected to the entertainment world a part from Real Housewives? ”

          How so?

          • emt2 says:

            Well, brother Jaime is a celebrity chef/stylist.

            Brother Chris owned a clothing company that had many folks in the music industry as clients: Eve, etc. I’ve seen pics of Chris posing with a lot of hip hop acts in private settings.

            Dina worked as an interior designer/event planner for some celebrities.

            Dina is a producer for the off Broadway “My Big, Fat, Gay Italian Wedding.

            etc. etc.

            That’s why the Manzos got involved with the show in the first place, to cast a bigger net into the entertainment world and make more money and connections.

            • Sha2000 says:

              Okay. Did know about C & J clothing line & D event planning. Wouldn’t really classify either as entertainment biz, but I’m sure they would like to think so.

            • kk says:

              Is Andy a producer or affiliated on the big fat gay Italian wedding?

            • Dina is not listed with the American Society of Interior Designers. She is not a not registered with the New Jersey Department of Consumer Affairs as a Certified Interior Designer or a New Jersey Certified Interior Designer. Any of these memberships or designations would signify she had fulfilled the requirements of education, examination and experience set forth in the New Jersey Interior Designer’s Certification Act. Dina is an Interior DECORATOR. A different profession, one that has different skill set but not an Interior Designer. If you would like for me to explain further, I would be glad to!

          • Olivia says:

            I am so done after next weeks “big finish”. The DC group bore me to death and I am much too opinionated regarding the reality of these story lines to even comment. I have no interest in OC, Atlanta, or the upcoming BH group.

            It would be unfair to those who enjoy these series and my comments would be an unnecessary sideshow since I honestly do not believe most of what I am viewing.

            NJ and NYC are basically the only reality shows I have followed and I was too busy picking apart the availability of the camera’s ability to “capture” these golden moments.

            Just consider me the “naysayer” but I will admit it has been a pretty nice ride with the rest of you along.

            Personally I think Andy Cohen is a horse’s ass but that’s me.

            • twoile says:

              Ditto!

            • Char212 says:

              I hate to see you leave Olivia. I love the fact that you are opinionated, you put things in perspective that a lot of us don’t see or think of. I understand how you feel though. The thought that these women are getting paid for awful behavior is upsetting beyond words.

            • moneycanbuyyouass says:

              Olivia,

              I’ll be on that train with you. I have come to realize I do not admire or respect any of these women so why am I wasting my time on them? The countless hours I have lost which could have been much better utilized, sigh! I do hope justice will be served eventual on the Giudices, and the Salahis but the ripple effect on me will be so slight when it is all said and done, no big deal. True there are so many more getting away with this behavior, but really, what can be done?

      • Upper WestSide Dude says:

        I think Andy is scared of Teresa. He is a total pussy. I wish he would grow a pair.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Danielle totally looked like a hooker.

      • kk says:

        I liked the skirt, but not with a tank. A matching plain long or 3/4 sleeve top or blouse would have been nice.

      • NYCer says:

        Andy tweeted last night that her outfit showed up mid-way through taping. I think bravo arranges the outfits. I give her credit for going on. That’s the kind of thing that would have given me a lot of anxiety!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Did Bravo purposely arrange for the sausage sisters dresses to be way to small as well???

    • vilzvet says:

      Good comebacks!

  24. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Saw this on Twitter: People Mag – Meet the Cast of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It’ll be debuting October 14th.

    http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/08/31/real-housewives-beverly-hills-grammer-hilton/

    • moneycanbuyyouass says:

      Not even going to go there! Swearing it all off and finding a better use for my time! Wish me luck!

      • zoofeedingtime says:

        I am with you!! I drew the line at DC. I might watch NY if it returns and just fast forward through Kelly but no other Housewives for me. I am DONE!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          me too – no new franchises and will only watch NY and Bethenny’s second season. While watching women behave badly may be entertaining – I gotta have real consequences in the mix as well.

        • MBDEA says:

          DITTO!

  25. vilzvet says:

    Teresa says she wrote a Bravo blog for last night’s episode, but we never saw a blog for LAST week’s episode although she states she turned that one in also. What gives??

  26. kk says:

    If Joe had another child, #5, I’m gonna be sick. i don’t care how mean I sound, he needs a vasectomy. He must stop for society’s sake. It’s like I’m watching the movie Idiocracy.

    Another thing. Joe admitted his dad gives him $5,000 a month right? That is $60,000 a year. What does Joe’s dad do? Any cash gift over $10,000 is subject to federal income gift tax-Right. Did Joe pay taxes on this?

    • NYCer says:

      I don’t think this was Joe’s child. Why would any child of Joe’s be considered Teresa’s nephew?

      Maybe one of their brothers or sisters had a child out of wedlock and the family was slow to acknowledge him?

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        um, so the child could be brought to family events because it is Joe’s ONLY son?

        I have a friend who married a man who’s father was (murdered) big time NYC Mafia godfather, and his mother was a stripper. No they were not married. Or as my late mother would say “did not have the benefit of clergy”

        The husband is a really nice guy with no mob ties whatsoever, the mother kept his interaction with the family to a minimum even moving to Boston to shield him.

        Anyways, he knew his father as his “uncle” up until he was about 17 and his mother told him.

        He DID attend certain family events, and his”uncle” came to his childhood events like catechism, etc. He was always introduced as a “nephew”, and then largely ignored.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I think ‘nephew’ was a code word- the same way when someone gets their period they say their “Aunt Flo” is visiting.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      First it was $10,000, then $5,000 and now $3k and change when he needs it! It is a very interesting question as to where his father has all this money and when you see him he doesn’t appear to be wealthy. Maybe all those businesses in his NAME were bringing in a lot of money and he is the HOLDING company for Joe so Teresa can’t get her hands on it while he is hiding it from creditors. What a good son – put your dad in a position for criminal charges!

    • Had Enough! says:

      For 2010, it is 13,000 per child per year. So J, T, and the four little monkeys, that is 6 people, or $78,000 per year.

      • Sigh.... says:

        Umm, i’m confused. Could you please explain Had Enough.

        I was talking about gift tax. What $13,000 a year/person? I meant there should be about $50,000 in gift taxes Joe owes.

        If Joe’s dad gives him money it’s a gift and taxable over $10k. I don’t think Joe’s dad can claim J & T. I’m so lost can you please clarify. Thank You

        • Di says:

          Hi Sigh,
          You have old info on the gift tax, the annual exclusion amount has increased from $10k to $13k per person per gift (i’ve pasted the info below from the irs website) So Joe’s dad can gift $13k to Joe, $13k to Teresa, $13k to each grandkid (4) that’s how Had Enough came up with $78k. Also, the DONOR (Joe’s dad) is responsible for paying the tax over that exclusion amount, but since Joe is not claiming he received in excess of the exclusion $60k is less than $78k, no tax is owed.

          How many annual exclusions are available?
          The annual exclusion applies to gifts to each donee. In other words, if you give each of your children $11,000 in 2002-2005, $12,000 in 2006-2008, and $13,000 on or after January 1, 2009, the annual exclusion applies to each gift.

          Who pays the gift tax?
          The donor is generally responsible for paying the gift tax. Under special arrangements the donee may agree to pay the tax instead. Please visit with your tax professional if you are considering this type of arrangement.

          What is considered a gift?
          Any transfer to an individual, either directly or indirectly, where full consideration (measured in money or money’s worth) is not received in return.

          What can be excluded from gifts?
          The general rule is that any gift is a taxable gift. However, there are many exceptions to this rule. Generally, the following gifts are not taxable gifts.

          1. Gifts that are not more than the annual exclusion for the calendar year.
          2. Tuition or medical expenses you pay for someone (the educational and medical exclusions).
          3. Gifts to your spouse.
          4. Gifts to a political organization for its use.

    • Maxine49 says:

      The recipient of a gift does not pay taxes on the gift. In some circumstances the giver of the gift owes federal taxes on the gift; however, if you give to a family member the exemption is quite high…I think $13000 per family member. So the giver could give $13000 to Joe, T, and each of the 3 (now 4 kids) and not have to pay a federal gift tax.

  27. NYCer says:

    Did you see the preview–what’s up with Kim G.’s facelift? She must think she is going to be a permanent member of the cast if she’s already doing the plastic surgery thing. It’s really scary.

    I’m so tired of this show. They have no where to go without Danielle because they don’t call each other out on their failings (Ashley’s creating a hate-page on facebook for Danielle, convicted of assault; Teresa spending money she didn’t have and then filing for bankruptcy to cheat her creditors out of MILLIONS; Dina was obviously lying in articles if Danielle’s lawyers could shut her up with one cease & desist letter; Joe not drinking at all at dinner (huh?) but “taking shots” after a major accident that totaled the car)… So without truth it’s all going to be one big whitewash of pumpkin patches and ham game scenes.

    I thought Jacqueline humilitated herself when she brought up Danielle’s children “crying every day at school.” How would she know that? More of Ashley’s sources? The same sources that led her to write a scandalous blog about Christine’s behavior at a party? This is all gossip and rumor. The Manzo/Laurita’s shout the loudest so they seem to win, but I think they have all lost my respect this year.

    It reminds me of Jill Zarin–she started to believe her good press and rabid “fans” and just lost sight of what constitutes respectable behavior.

    Tsk, tsk ladies.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Mom’s know other mom’s with kids of all ages in local schools…we know stuff ; )
      I understand that J can have that info about the girls crying in school, what I can’t understand is why she would share it on camera if she really cared.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Also T’s remark “they heard you having sex at the shore house”; how is saying that publicly helping those kids?????

      • NYCer says:

        But my point is that there is no way Jacqueline could know–she doesn’t have children in school with Danielle’s girls–clearly it’s a rumor. And she chose to hurt those kids by spreading the rumor on tv. Yet, she’s covering up for Joe’s drunk driving (charged with a DUI- fact), and hasn’t said ONE word about Teresa’s finances (publicly filed bankruptcy, while spending crazily-fact).

        Clearly Ashley was lying about thinking her mom was hit. Her mom was there in the crowd (wouldn’t you first run to your mom if you heard she was assaulted? wouldn’t you say “no one hits my mom” instead of “love and light” if you decided to take revenge?). Yet, all the housewives repeat that lie because they think it makes Ashley look better.

        • Quincy IL says:

          Jacqueline has a master’s degree in gossip. She spends her days collecting and sending it out.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Isn’t Jacq the first one to restrain Ashley after her attack on Danielle? So they both saw each other prior to the attack and clearly there wasn’t a hair or article of clothing out of place on Jacq. These losers think we don’t see what is clearly on film and will accept a poorly crafted lie/story? Love and light losers – no one is buying it!

  28. Upper WestSide Dude says:

    I think we all can agree Danielle is batshit crazy but I cannot believe how many of the idiots in TV land give that foul mouthed Teresa a pass. She is the epitome of white trash. One can only hope the little gargoyles she is raising do not end up like her. I wish Danielle would ask Teresa if “she blows her father with that mouth” when starts with her whole “bitch” “whore” diatribe. Also, what was with her grunting like some barnyard animal when Andy tried calm her down?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The only thing that makes sense to me is that Danielle has some explosive “stuff” on all of them and they know it. That is her security in this insanity. What I don’t get is why they constantly gang up on her, insult her and her children when she has the goods on them! So do they deserve what she says – hell to the yesssssss!

  29. Anitabee says:

    I must have watched a completely different reunion.

    I disagree with the guest blogger about Danielle not being able to afford to pull her XXX tape off the market. If true she would have sued. What? She can put a gag order on Dina but not go after Hustler? Please. She made that sex tape, sold it, and will end up with about a $1,000,000.00 for her “efforts”. There needed to be legal clearance before its release. How convenient that it was released after school let out for her girls.

    I do believe those poor girls do cry at school everyday. Kids are mean. Tweens worse. Teenagers the absolute worse. No way do kids at school not say sh*t about their mother to their faces.

    A Bravo teaser during the reunion, says part 2 is explosive and someone IS NOT coming back.

    I do believe Danielle got fired.

    I also think Andy did ask “harder”questions. Not the usual bunny fluff he seems to roll around in. Of all the reunion shows, this was the best one yet. You get to see these women as who they really are not the fake show queens they are during taping.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I agree. Doesn’t the domain that sells the tape use her name? http://WWW.DSxxx or something like that? She could sue that her name cannot be used. Who own’s that domain name? If it’s her, then she’s cool w/it.

    • jezzibel says:

      I’m going to hazard a guess and say Jaq brought up the tidbit about the girls crying at school to shoot down Danielles claimes that her kids are happy, live in a bubble and are unaffected by anything their mom does.
      I imagine life for those poor kids is often horrible, especially since they are school aged children.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Even so, she is not helping them by bring it up on national TV.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jacq went after Danielle’s kids because she is a poor excuse for a mother! She has never taken responsibility for Ashley and she tried to blame Chris last season for Ashley’s behavior. She wanted to hurt Danielle because it is easier to blame Ashley’s behavior on someone else and not on her total lack of parenting.
        When Caroline was talking about Albie you could see empathy on Danielle’s face – too bad they didn’t show horseyface.

    • SeriouslyWTH says:

      I disagree about the cost to sue the sex tape.

      A gag order probably with legal and court fees was about $2,000 total.

      Now, the porn industry is a 5 billion year profit industry. Every porn distributor and film maker will contribute to a legal fund to fight to protect celebrity sex tape releases. That is one of their bread and butter and any legal precedence created will have serious consequences for them.

      They could drowned Danielle in legal paperwork that costs a fortune to go through. Why else would even the Filthy rich give up–it can cost $100’s of millions of dollars and a Billion dollar industry can afford it.

      Danielle is a celebrity and with that she waved her privacy rights (not needing a written contract on what is show about her). Her only recourse is to get a cut of the money. She’s not the owner of the tape so she has no ownership rights. Paparazzi rules apply.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Agreed – when nude photos surface of big stars – they have the bucks to stop them. Danielle doesn’t have that kind of money. So it would be interesting to know who came to her to try to stop the release – she may not have been able to comment because it is in the legal process. In fairness, she didn’t bring up Dina and the gag order – Jacq slipped that one in enough for Danielle to clarify the situation. What these women consider “proof” is amazing……

  30. ramona_coaster says:

    This reality show went down the toilet. I only watched a few episodes of this season, few of the last season and the reunion show last night. Had a feeling that I’d be watching a bunch of morons with self control issues and I was right. I don’t blame Caroline, Jacqueline & Teresa for being angry at Danielle. I’m sure there are things that we are not privy to regarding Danielle actions behind the scenes. Even Danielle has said she had them investigated and followed which is freaky. Danielle is a sociopath who is out to get them. I’m sure there are people who have met Danielle that wish they hadn’t met her. Caroline, Jacqueline & Teresa are not perfect but dealing with Danielle is a double edged sword. If they don’t defend themselves then Danielle thinks she a full run to bulldoze them, if they fight back then it’s 3 against 1, an unfair fight. I wouldn’t want to meet Danielle and get sucked into her vortex of hell.

  31. Aranda says:

    As an Sicilian American, I do not feel that “calm” equals “class”. I prefer honest and straightforward (albeit ALWAYS without any physical or verbal abuse) to Danielle’s congenital, calm, and reserved lying. Everytime Danielle opens her mouth she lies and contradicts herself. REAL I can deal with—FAKE I cannot!

    Also, I totally disagree that Danielle made anyone do anything. All the women filmed for this episode are personally responsible for the way they reacted during the taping and no one else!

    However, I prefer the Manzo’s, Lauritas and Giudices reactions during last night’s episode to Danielle’s because they were at least HONEST and REAL. Yes, Theresa needs to mature emotionally and learn how to effectively handle her emotions. Yes, Jacqueline could learn new parenting skills and stop rehashing the past. And yes Caroline is a strong-willed and unforgiving woman. Yet, IMO, all the women on that stage are superior human beings to Danielle, even with their enormous flaws exposed for all to see and judge.

    SCORE FOR THIS REUNION EPISODE: Caroline Manzo, THE WINNER by TKO, “This is the OK Corral and you had better buckle up!” No love and light there and no pretense either…

    Oh, and by the way, did it every occur to any of you that Tiny Manzo may have been killed BECAUSE he refused to cooperate with the Mafia? Why jump to the worst possible conclusion? I personally have had relatives murdered by the Mafia (before my time) simply because they would not participate and cooperate with the local Mafia right here in the United States. If you did automatically come to that conclusion about Mr. Manzo, shame on you. Just because you know Mafioso and just because you have had business dealings with them (which in past times, not now, was sometimes unavoidable) does not mean you are Mafia. Such stereotyping personally offends me and my Sicilian heritage..

    • SeriouslyWTH says:

      As an Irish American, I can vow for the fact that there is many of us who does not nor ever since coming to America have anything to do with the Irish mob or Engage in any business activities that would attract the mob (like bootlegging from before our time) to come around.

      There is plenty of Chinese Americans who’s family has absolutely no dealings with or business activities that would attract the Chinese mob.

      I don’t get it. Someone please explain this to me.

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        I think what @Aranda is saying, if I am understanding her correctly, is that in some parts of the country you cannot do business WITHOUT somehow doing business with the Mafia.

        I worked for a company that had 4 offices in NYC. We tried to cut costs by changing their garbage pickup company from the one they were using to a new company.

        Not only were all of their windows broken, the girls that worked in the offices had their tires slashed.

        One of the garbage company’s “representatives” came into the largest manhatten office and insinuated he knew where the office manager’s kids went to school. She quit.

        And we kept the garbage company.

        The Garment industry is another Mafia infiltrated industry. It is estimated that for every piece of clothing that we buy, .25 cents of each dollar ends up in Mafia hands:

        http://www.jfwrealty.com/garment_history.html

        “But one can’t talk about the history of the Garment District without mentioning the powerful and debilitating influence of the mafia on this industry over the previous century. The saga of the Garment District shows how the mob and unions first became symbiotic, and how the mafia used corrupt unions to take over the industry.

        In the early 1920s, the United Hebrew Trades union asked Lepke Buchalter and his Jewish and Italian gangster friends from Brooklyn to work as union enforcers. Buchalter deployed 250 enforcers, who threatened owners and threw acid on the merchandise of companies that dared buck the union. Sometimes, his troops squared off with those of another Jewish gangster, Dutch Schultz, who broke strikes for the garment bosses. Occasionally, the two gangsters would work both sides of a strike for mutual benefit. Buchalter allegedly struck up an alliance with Sidney Hillman, legendary founder of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America that represented 50,000 garment industry laborers and a close advisor to Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

        But the ambitious Buchalter wasn’t content merely with being hired union muscle. Grasping how the industry functioned, he launched a plan to control it. The business, he realized, couldn’t operate without the 1,900 workers who cut the cloth and shipped the goods. If you had the power to withhold their labor at will, you’d have leverage over the entire industry.

        By the early 1930s, Buchalter had persuaded the Amalgamated cutters’ local to align with him by offering their officials protection from rival union forces, and he managed to get the drivers behind him, too. In exchange for labor peace – he could now shut down business with a word – Buchalter coerced the garment companies into doling out sweetheart contracts to trucking firms that gave him kickbacks. Buchalter died in the electric chair in 1944 for the murder of a trucker. Before his execution he offered to give information on top figures within the Roosevelt cabinet, such as Hillman, who allegedly had links to the mafia. Thomas E. Dewey, then District Attorney of New York, turned down the offer, sending Buchalter to the chair.”

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          @The Garment industry is another Mafia infiltrated industry. It is estimated that for every piece of clothing that we buy, .25 cents of each dollar ends up in Mafia hands

          Hmmm- I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that Chris Laurita is a clothing disturber.

      • Aranda says:

        In SOME Italian communities within the United States in days past, ALL (or at the very least MOST) businesses were run or owned by the Mafia. Much depended on where you finally located in the United States, e.g., New York City or Kansas City, and that location determined the strength and/or prevelance of the Mafia organization. However, my relative who was killed by the Mafia was murdered in a very rural part of Louisiana for REFUSAL to take part in their illegal activities, and so my family eventually moved from the area and never had problems again. As further explanation for you, it could happen that if you were Italian you could became involved anywhere you lived where the Mafia was established, and if you didn’t play with the “boys” you were murdered by the “boys”. I don’t know Mr. Manzo’s personal history, but neither does anyone on this blog. I cannot speak for the Irish or Chinese communties in America and whether their communities or mob affiliations were as strong as Italians once they settled in the US, but about Italians I do know…

        • Quincy IL says:

          Actually, I read a lot of history and the Irish became corrupt policemen and corrupt politicians. Joe Kennedy made his money in Pohibition with Booze. He was an US ambassador to England and the father of a President. I guess that is another kind of familia…

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      No one is automatically assuming anything about Tiny Manzo, it has been widely reported that he was involved with the Mafia and was murdered for stealing from them:

      http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/04/27/2009-04-27_family_has_ties_to_rubbed_out_tiny_manzo.html

      “Their father-in-law, Albert (Tiny) Manzo, was executed mob-style in August 1983, after he and Gambino family soldier Peter A. Campisi were suspected of skimming from a mob casino on Staten Island.

      “A couple of weeks later, they found Tiny Manzo in the trunk of his car,” recalled Robert Buccino, a New Jersey organized crime expert.

      The 350-pound mobster took four slugs to his torso. His naked body – the arms and legs bound in plastic – was discovered in the trunk of his parked Lincoln-Continental outside a supermarket in Hillside, N.J.

      The killing was never solved.

      Campisi, a made man and Tiny’s partner in the casino, suffered a similar fate, Buccino recalled.

      The colorful Manzo, who ran for mayor of Paterson in 1974, also owned the Brownstone Restaurant – one of the main backdrops for action in “Housewives.”

      • Aranda says:

        I absolutely DID NOT say that you cannot do business in this country without doing business with the Mafia. I do businsss everyday where I live and never even see an Italian, let alone Mafioso. However, I am simply asking all to entertain the idea that Mr. Manzo MIGHT have been killed for his REFUSAL to cooperate with the Mafia just like my relative, and to not jump to conclusions. I do not know Mr. Manzo’s history or information, but neither does anyone else on this blog. And since when did ANYTHING being widely reported make it “TRUE”??? My intent was simply to say none of us should assume Mr. Manzo’s affiliation with the Mafia based upon the circumstances of his death.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          Arana-
          If you look at my reply, no one is saying that you said that you cannot do business in this country without doing business with the Mafia.

          It is my opinion that there are some industries in some parts of the country that have been infiltrated by the Mafia.

          We oftentimes don’t know it either, and unwittingly become involved with them.

          While I am very sorry to hear about your brother being killed by not becoming involved with the Mafia, I do not believe that was the case with Tiny Manzo.

          Robert Buccino, a New Jersey organized crime expert is the one saying it, not anyone on this blog.

          Robert Buccino is a former State Police intelligence officer who became a New Jersey organized crime expert and is now Chief of Detectives for the Union County Prosecutor’s Office.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Where did she say that her brother was killed for not getting mixed up with the mob? Maybe I need more coffee before reading the blogs.

            And indeed that would be very painful.

            • Aranda says:

              Was not my brother…another relative. That is why these types of assumptions bother me soooo much!

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                I think there might have been some confusion because I posted about my BIL’s family being extorted by the mob. Only they didn’t kill his brother because the family paid them.

          • Aranda says:

            Thank you for the kindness with which you have replied to me!

            I appreciate you believe Tiny Manzo was affiliated with the Mafia and I respect that is your opinion and I am not attempting to change anyone’s mind about his death. I was just saying that it bothers me greatly that many people make that assumption about Italians who are killed in a mob fashion. It’s just not necesasarily so…that’s all!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      The accusation is that he was ‘skimming’ from the mob and running his own illegal gaming parlor which was eating into their action. “Not co-operating” with the mob doesn’t mean necessary mean someone is in compliance with the law.

      Let’s not pretend he was an innocent by stander who agree to testify about a mob hit he witnessed when he was going to get his morning paper.

      My BIL’s family had to pay off the mob or they would have killed his brother. Guess what, his brother is a shady conman. Usually when the mob puts a hit on your- your not the most scrupulous person.

    • kats2 says:

      Oh of course Aranda you’re so right – when the Manzo’s look bad that is because of someone else and there is always an explanation for it. They have such a heavy burden to carry and are such outstanding citizens. Please let me know where I can send my donation for the Gold Bedazzled Tiny Manzo Monument that will be erected in their honor.

      I’m Italian too but what does being Italian really have to do with any of this? Why would you even want to associate that with these thugs? These people are beneath me and I’m embarrassed that these losers are given any time on TV and that any person of Italian decent would defend or help make excuses for them because they too happen to be Italian.

      I know Garbage when I see it and I know where there is smoke there is fire. The Manzo’s, Laurita’s and Gudice’s are no better than Danielle. With or without the Tiny situation, as soon as news hit that the Manzo’s and Giudice’s were doing this show the talk of current “connections”, affairs, financial trouble all came out years ago (before the show even started).

      Shame on you or anyone else that comes to their defense or declares Caroline or anyone else a winner in this dumpster dive.

      • zoofeedingtime says:

        That comes pretty close to a personal attack. There should be no “shame” involved when someone just shares their opinion here.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          What?

          How many people said “Shame” on the guest blogger for using the phrase ‘Jew-Dice’. I didn’t see you accuse them of making personal attacks.

        • kats2 says:

          But there should be “shame” involved with someone drawing their own conclusion based on information in the news and what they see on the show?

      • Aranda says:

        You remind me of Danielle…I say one thing and you warp it to suit your needs. I never said that the Manzo’s behavior was appropriate. In fact, I dissed the behavior of ALL the ladies on the reunion episode and said they were all responsible for their reactions. As for Mr. Manzo, I do not know if he is guility of any Mafia affiliation or not and simply asked that all bloggers entertain the idea he may have been killed for not cooperating with the Mafia. In addition, I did not defend Caroline Manzo or her actions because she does not need me to defend her. I was simply saying that in a war of many words during that reunion episode, she won hands down and she did it being REAL whether you or I liked her behavior or not. Reread my first blog, but this time put your glasses on and take your HATE off!!!

        • kats2 says:

          Like you have an opinion and I stated it.
          I stand by my comment and I know what I read.
          No hate, just an opinion you don’t like or can’t handle.

          • Aranda says:

            I don’t need you to state my opinion—it is in my first blog. If you stand by your comments, then you can’t read. No hate, just an opinion you don’t like or can’t handle…

            • Laura aka Just done says:

              Aranda,

              I am going to agree with Kats here. I grew up in Staten Island, with the Castellano’s as my neighbors. I remember the Tiny Manzo killing. This was reported by journalists, it was investigated by the police. To say otherwise is just allowing the Manzo’s to continue to live in their own world, not being held accountable for their CURRENT actions. I’m not speaking of the past, but current actions.

              You made the statement that “perhaps he wouldn’t cooperate with the mafia” or something to that effect. If you knew anything about Tiny Manzo, you would know that all you are doing is sticking your head in the sand.

              Kats doesn’t imply it, but I will say it for her. I am Irish, but I would be embarrassed to be Italian and have THIS family (the Manzos/
              Lauritas/Giudices) be what represents me to the nation.

              The are NOT an accurate depiction of Italian/American people. They are not an accurate depiction of New Jersey. It galls me being from NJ to see their corruption played out on a weekly basis for the country to watch.

              No…we are not like them. No…we do not condone their behavior. No…we do not strive to be like them (not “jealous” chewbaca).

              I am a hard-working single mom. I live in a fairly upscale community in NJ. I work very hard to keep my son in a good school district, to put food on the table, and to allow for some “extras” like violin lessons. These people have no rules. They don’t apply to them.

              If you want to defend the Manzos, I suggest you actually research Tiny Manzo’s activities that led up to his execution. Until you do so, I find your comment without merit.

              • Laura aka Just done says:

                Because this is Lynn’s site, I’m not going to state how I really feel. I will say that you refuse to see two sides to a story though, and all you can do is make innuendo about my beliefs about Italian/Americans.

                Do me a favor, if you would like to say something to me directly, just e-mail Lynn. I will send her my e-mail address so you can actually say it to me directly, instead of hiding behind a blog.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          Aranda,

          I posted this up thread:

          While I am very sorry to hear about your brother being killed by not becoming involved with the Mafia, I do not believe that was the case with Tiny Manzo.

          Robert Buccino, a New Jersey organized crime expert is the one saying it, not anyone on this blog.

          Robert Buccino is a former State Police intelligence officer who became a New Jersey organized crime expert and is now Chief of Detectives for the Union County Prosecutor’s Office.

          I have entertained the idea that Tiny Manzo was killed for not cooperating and have rejected that conclusion based on the evidence.

          You are entitled to your opinion that Caroline “won”. But with all due respect to you, please understand that I disagree.

          That is not said because I am a “hater” but because I don’t think she came off well during the reunion. Real or not.

          • Aranda says:

            I good with you having your opinion and me having mine. The word “HATE” became part of my blog when my comments on this blog were warped and skewed to accomodate the opinion of another blogger. By the way, IMO, all Caroline WON was a war of words—that’s all I was commenting about, not approving her behavior. Regardless, thank you for your comments.

            • OneMoreinBoston says:

              i don’t know where I got your brother out of your relative? Sorry!

              Skimming through with too much coffee in my system?

              Again, I am so sorry that ANYONE in your family was murdered.

      • Zoey says:

        Word!!!

    • kk says:

      I disagree. I don’t think the Manzo’s & Teresa won. I think they are all sick. I don’t dislike them for Tiny, I can’t state their gutter mouth, vindictive bullying, and T’s criminal investigations. I would dislike them without Danielle. I find NOTHING redeemable about any of them.

      Even without Danielle & Tiny, what is there to like about them? Caroline is paranoid with her guard dogs & investigators. Dina is weird–who imagines Silence of the lambs scenes when talking about people (I watched parts of season 1 yesterday). T & J are horrible mothers. I hate the fact that we the US taxpayers have to cover T’s bankruptcy, that personally affects me.

      I’m done with this show. I don’t think I’ll even watch part 2, because I don’t want them to get the tv numbers. GROSS.

    • Had Enough! says:

      From the NY Daily News:

      Their father-in-law, Albert (Tiny) Manzo, was executed mob-style in August 1983, after he and Gambino family soldier Peter A. Campisi were suspected of skimming from a mob casino on Staten Island.

      “A couple of weeks later, they found Tiny Manzo in the trunk of his car,” recalled Robert Buccino, a New Jersey organized crime expert.

      The 350-pound mobster took four slugs to his torso. His naked body – the arms and legs bound in plastic – was discovered in the trunk of his parked Lincoln-Continental outside a supermarket in Hillside, N.J.

      The killing was never solved.

      Campisi, a made man and Tiny’s partner in the casino, suffered a similar fate, Buccino recalled.

      The colorful Manzo, who ran for mayor of Paterson in 1974, also owned the Brownstone Restaurant – one of the main backdrops for action in “Housewives.”

      Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/04/27/2009-04-27_family_has_ties_to_rubbed_out_tiny_manzo.html#ixzz0yD4k4hsW

  32. floridagirl88 says:

    I watched in amazement last night and at the end of the reunion show concluded that most of what I saw was manufactured drama. Jac/Car/Ter succeeded in making Danielle look like the victim of “systematic bullying,” (Kelly, she how its done?). None of them add anything good to the gene pool, look stupid for creating drama over the ho-hum everyday issues of high school and seem self-important.

    I had to laugh when Teresa started up trouble with NO provocation, just to be seen I guess. Do you remember last season’s final episode with the table flip and how her husband had to grab her by the neck to control her? This time there was only little Andy to control her anger and boy did he get tossed like a used tissue! Last night proved to me that Teresa may have a serious personality disorder as her anger seems out of control and out of line given the issues. How desperate she must be for money and meaning in her life that she prostitutes herself on “live” TV?

    Caroline and Jacqueline are largely unimpressive. Again, they have to make up shit to be relevent. After these Jersey girls, I am beginning to like the boringness that is DC Housewives, can’t wait for NY to return and even looking forward to the foolishness of Atlanta.

    They could all take a page from Bethenny. She is a class act and her show is far more watchable. In fact, I don’t drink, but I am considering trying that SkinnyGirl Margarita. Hell, I just bought the yoga tape she made and it’s kinda of fun.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I want her Yoga Dvd; is it good for a newbie to yoga?

      • floridagirl88 says:

        Yes. Even Bethenny cannot do the poses as fully as the instructor which makes the experience more real. She has some good comments during the routine, can’t always lift her leg as high or bend as deeply into an asana, but neither can I! See if your library as it first before you spend the money.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Yoga is for any age – you will find it does more than just work your body! I quit smoking and didn’t even realize I was quitting, so go for it!

  33. jennifer says:

    I said it last blog and I’ll say it again- Teresa did not jump up out of emotion and a need to protect, she PAUSED, which to me means she figured out what Danielle meant, and then DECIDED to get in her face. I really believe she was pissed but she actually made the decision to act not just on pure emotion/adrenline ……..I think she made her “nephew” into a bigger deal then it would have been if she had just said “I acknowledge him” or even “what are you talking about?”…..Teresa was looking for her “table flip” moment. She is just trash- she is garbage!

    • Sha2000 says:

      I agree it was staged anger. I think she wanted to stop Danielle from talking about her family BEFORE the subject got to Joe.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Confusion while she listened then rage. She was uncontrolled and physically threatening. I think it was real. The animal sounds were there. Look at your recording or watch the show again.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          It registered on her face – she knew what Danielle meant and she had to stop it from going further – so she does what she does best – create a scene to divert attention from the real issue.
          Remember many fans don’t do anything but watch the show – they don’t research or question what they see or what these people are doing when they are not on tv. so chalk it up to “Teresa being Teresa!”!

  34. jennifer says:

    Also if Danielle really has a gag order on Dina then the courts found Dina to be slanderous which means Dina couldn’t prove her story, so not sure how Jacqueline can claim there is proof because if there was why would Dina not bring it out in court….Obviously the gag order bothers the Laurita/Manzos because C and J kept harping on it last night- and for as close as they claim to be it seemed to me Teresa had not clue what Jacqueline and Caorline were talking about.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I think Teresa checked out for awhile after her “scene” – she didn’t seem to focus on the conversations….she is a jerk but she isn’t all that stupid.

  35. Zoey says:

    I agree with your blog 100%. I’ve seen Caroline as a controlling bully for a while and I am as sick of all of them as you are. Don’t think I’ll be watching the second half. It’ll just be more of the same and I wasn’t entertained. I wanted to be, but I didn’t chuckle once.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ironically, they didn’t laugh either! There was no lightness, no real dialog, no explanations of interest. This franchise is finished, these players need to be retired and if NJ is to have a cast it has to be one of interest, intelligence and ensemble quality.

  36. Wall St Lady says:

    I have been whinning on the past blog where is everyone for the past hour. Dyslexia strikes again I miss the new blog announcement. Forgive me I haven’t reat it but I will now. I was soooo missing u !

    Ok LynnFam. I took some great liberties in representing you to Teresa’s Bankruptcy Trustee. I hope no one gets mad at me for over stepping your boundaries. If I did I know u will let me know. If I did could u please let me know another day as today I am very happy and feel I gave John a punch as well as a hug. I used my Wall St. Technique I use on men that works every time : I hinted that he is scared of Teresa !

    Drumb Roll

    Dear John,
    By now you know me as we spoke on the telephone and I have copied and pasted you on many posts from the Lynnchicargo blog. If you google NJ house wife or particularly simply Teresa Housewife NJ or simply Teresa NJ one of your 1st choices to read about Trash a as we ,to mitigate our disgust ,call Teresa you will she LynnChicargo as a prominent choice. Why ? Because Lynn has one of if not the largest followings commenting on the grifting Guidices’.
    Last nights performance of the physically abusive Teresa should certainly frighten you physically. Also you could see Teresa is delirious. Certainly you should fear for yourself and your family if you do not grant their petition. Teresa can’t possibly meet the $15 000 monthly mortgage nut with out grifting more people. She has proven with more examples than I can repeat (2 parties,helicopters, sapphire, ring, $60 000 curtains etc. ) To thumb her nose at the court system since she thinks she was GIVEN a “fresh start”. This so called “fresh start” is an insult to the grifted people of NJ but also the rest of the country.
    I want to emphasize the Lynn Family is probably 1000 clever,hard ,working , intelligent, interesting ,honest ,strong willed ,& professional women & men (just to name a few qualities) Teresa is NOT. We are US citizens from ALL OVER our great country.
    We know you have a particularly difficult job. We want you to know we stand behind you & many of us are not afraid of the Guidice grifters or the Manzo enablers (& perhaps worse descriptive adjectives). We can & will be helpful if you need us. You have 100s of extra eyes & ears. We challenge you not to be afraid. We stand behind you to do the right thing and not to give a “Fresh start”. We want you toshow this country that one cannot grift the US tax payers.
    The kindest thing to do is let this family live with in their means and work out plans to repay the folks who want to live with in their means by not going in to debt because they were stolen from.
    It is obvious that the Mc mansion is Teresa’s identity. That is why precisely it is so dangerous as she will do ANY THING (like Scarlet O’Hara ,”beg borrow ,murder & cheat,steal to keep it). 2xs we have seen on National TV, Teresa physically attack other women to protect even the mention of. Her
    ” $5mil” mansion.
    THIS BEHAVIOR is DANGEROUS to society. She is likely to attack someone who asks a question at a book signing.
    Speaking of the book revenue that is a “slam dunk” for us
    (I mean us because we take this personally). Teresa worked on the book before her declaration of bankruptcy. That $60 000 belongs to the court to distribute to those grifted !Then there were the cash with no recites for book sales one of the Lynn Family observed.
    You know more on the behind the scenes examples of more attempts to defraud the US Government and we know you will succeed.
    I really could go on and on but we know you are very busy as this isn’t even your only case.
    To put it lightly we are upset and willing to support you.
    I am personally in NYC and will help in any way. I am a Wall St. Lady & I run my own firm. Since my name is on my email ,please feel free to google me & you will find MANY pages , I was listed by the NY Post as one of the most powerful women in NY. We mean business and will be very disappointed if you are not able to stop this “Fresh Start”. Since I have been involved with other bankruptcy cases I know there can be many rounds so we support you in all rounds.

    In closing we thank you in advance for your kind attention ,

    I will be calling your office to confirm that you received and read our voice from the Lynn Family. (I will call every day until I get you if you are unavailable tomorrow
    Last I will continue to send you sample postings I think might be helpful.

    We support you difficult efforts with the cunning Guidices.

    Gods speed and Blessings to You,

    The Lynn Family of united bloggers,

    By Wall St Lady on August 31, 2010 at 9:11 a

    • Char212 says:

      Well done WSL!

    • jezzibel says:

      if the trustee has not done it already, I’d have him sit down with a reputable jeweler and go over S1, someone posted on a few blogs back that they were a professional jeweler and that the diamond tennis bracelet Teresa was wearing was infact real and not a piece of costume jewelry. Now some of it may have been loaned for the show.
      Just a thought

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      did u send this out already? I’m only asking (and don’t kill me) because I’m a stickler for grammar/punctuation and spelling issues. It’s what I do for a living, so when I see it, I always feel the need to “fix” it. If you haven’t sent this to him, I would be happy to fix the issues for you.

      Don’t mean to sound like a nitpicker, but if you want someone to take a letter seriously, you have to make it professional looking.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Well respectfully WL, count me out. I am here for the fun of it period. Although I dislike the hypocrisy of whats represented on the show versus the seemly true reality of what we read or dig up on the internet; I do not personally know any of these people, nor do I think any one else here does. That’s the ONLY fact we can state. I am therefore an unqualified source to back up any claims made about these people (nor do I have any desire to) from findings on this blog. If their supposed actions hurt them, let their wounds be self inflicted; frankly beyond speculation & snarky comments, it’s not our business…and to try to get involved takes us to their level.

        Just my take on it, no insult to you intended.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Great letter…

      I was actually thinking of you yesterday when they were airing season one of the show. I noticed a few time where T seemed to be wearing a rather large diamond engagement ring and diamond wedding band. I was wondering if anyone would be able to take screen shots of them and send them to the trustee so he could enquirer as to the whereabouts of these items.

      Dina also mentioned about T having jewelry custom made- which suggests that it would be authentic and not faux.

    • Little_Rhino says:

      What on earth was that? Why are we inserting ourselves into a bankruptcy proceeding that has nothing to do with us?

      • Sha2000 says:

        EXACTLY LR! Please see my comment above. I am very uncomfortable with being spoken for & on the internet no less.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Since the taxpayers are generally the ones who have been eating the costs of things like this, who is to say it has nothing to do with us.

        If you don’t care to aid in the discover of hidden assets to pay the many creditors the Guidices have stiffed- then don’t participate in it. But if others people want to lend their expertise and time then they should and are free to do so.

        • Little_Rhino says:

          A bankruptcy proceeding concerns debts owed to creditors. Such creditors will have to accept only a percentage of what they are owed, as determined by the court. Unrelated taxpayers don’t lose or gain anything.

          In any event, I’m out. I love reality TV, but it’s not MY reality.

          • Sha2000 says:

            LR, agreed! This is enough to scare me away too!

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Really- who do you think ultimately floats all the bail out packages these lenders need to stay afloat?

            The taxpayers do have much at stake here.

            • kk says:

              How many people at these businesses that they owe big bucks too have to fire or let go to meet their budget short fall. Then those released employees go on unemployment. So not only do we have to bail out the lenders, we can’t let the unemployed go without food. We are double hit.

              Thank you Rabble Rouser

              • Sha2000 says:

                Yes they hurt people with their debt but there are bigger fish to fry. These are the little guys not AIG executives. On bailing out start questioning your congressmen on why they will vote pay raises for themselves but not extend unemployment, or why they were okay with a 75Mil cap for BP and leave us to pay the rest as fine when BP just spent near that much on PR…that’s the question tax payers **should BE ASKING.**
                The Giudices are not where we should be starting-my opinion.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Sure they are free to do so just don’t sign it “The Lynn Family of united bloggers”; get it on your own page & have it signed like a petition, do assume we all want to be included. And what about ASKING first? How about starting w/Lynn? Yes, as a US taxpayer I don’t like the assumed actions of these people but you know what? I didn’t like invading a country for oil contracts & the lives & trillions it cost us more…where were the complaints then???? Where is the outrage when it really counts? The Giudices should be the least of our concerns…this is wrong in my opinion.

        • Di says:

          I disagree, I think there’s such a thing as too much time on your hands. We watch these people to escape, or to be entertained or whatever. Trying to involve ourselves in their personal lives after watching them on a show? No.

          I’m the first to stand in the I dislike Teresa line from what I’ve seen on this show, but this is a TV show people! IMO we do not know them personally and should not insert ourselves into their REAL court cases. Yes, we like to get together and talk about the ladies–what they did on the show, even what they did in real life (gossip), but this is too far.

          Btw, as an attorney, I can tell you no officer of the court would be able to take as evidence someone’s word appraising/valuing a piece of jewelery off a screen shot from a show. That’s simply ludicrous to think you can prove if a piece is authentic or valuable in that manner. Not only that, but by continuing to contact this trustee as if personally a creditor will only serve to make him doubt the letter writer’s motives/believability and not the Guidices, imo.

          I know some may say, “but we the taxpayers have a say!” No, not unless they personally owe you money, you really don’t have a say in the Guidices BK court case. Be outraged all you want, discuss it with others, post everywhere on blogs, make you own blog, but don’t waste the trustee’s time which should be spent doing his job (and I’m sure the Guidices are not his only cased to work on). This is how our court system works, unless you are a party to the case or have a personal vested interest you don’t have a say.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Hi Di,

            My point of the screen shots wasn’t for an appraisal based on that but to require them to produce those items to actually be appraised from a credible professional.

            With all their paying for everything in cash, they haven’t really left a paper trail on many items.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Well Done, I appreciate your efforts!!! Thank you!

    • kats2 says:

      WSL – what do you think this letter will accomplish? Since you have experience and contacts I’m curious if they would take the opinion or support of 1000’s of random people on a blog site about a Reality TV show as a seriously? Seriously, could this/we have an impact or will they laugh at it?

      • Sigh.... says:

        I personally think with Joe’s DUI that Teresa should be doing some atonement with MADD (Mothers against Drunk Driving).

        • Sha2000 says:

          YES AGREE! But again if you weren’t there & didn’t serve him alcohol…that’s my point, you can only represent what you KNOW happened because you experienced it with them.

    • zoofeedingtime says:

      This is just getting silly now. IT IS A REALITY SHOW that isn’t even reality!!
      This reminds me of the brilliant idea someone had to send cards to Jill. It is just stupid! Something is not right with this blurring the lines between a TV show and real life.

      Lynn, please do not endorse or sign on to this. I have a bad feeling about this.

    • Dreemz says:

      I don’t get why Teresa and Joe would get to keep that house with an outrageous mortgage like that…15K could sure go a long way helping pay back some of the folks they have stolen from. I found it interesting last night when Teresa said they built everything up themselves….then why was “family” contributing $10,000 per month? I want to see them in the apartment over the pizza joint, she thinks that’s so beneath her. There were times in my past I couln’t have afforded an apartment that nice….seriously! I’m with you Wall Street Lady, Teresa needs a dose of reality, she needs to learn humility. I don’t think we’ll ever see any human qualities like depth, compassion, empathy but at least we could hope to see her smugness shook up a little bit.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Foreclosing on the house only hurts the neighbors. For every foreclosure here (there’s been a few on our street) it’s hit us apx. 50k EACH TIME. That large a home is hard to resell now & would sit unoccupied & become an eyesore. Sadly it only makes the effect of their debts worse.

  37. Pantry Viewer says:

    Seriously, that was some low rent trash. Okay, if Danielle is soooo horrible and they are so righteous and perfect and she is causing you such grief, then stop.doing.the.show. Get away from her. But of course they don’t.

    Each one of them makes me sick to my stomach. I stopped watching after coming back from break after Teresa’s gorilla act. That was so trashy I have no words.

    I turned it off after that and glad I did. Andy is a useless pile of fake doo and his favoritism disgusts me. They all do. Every single one of them for being associated with this ridiculous trash.

    • zoofeedingtime says:

      I am with you. If I wanted this type of trash I would just watch Jerry Springer. I think the whole Housewives Series are over for me. I don’t think these shows can go back to what they once were (OC & NY).

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        I agree. You said much more susinctly what I was trying to say above. I could have watched Jerry Springer sums up exactly how I feel!

  38. Need a Hobby says:

    The HoWives are a bunch of maroons. (h/t Bugs Bunny.)

    “gag order” likely a cease and desist letter from Danielle’s attorney as someone noted up above. A C&D isn’t issued by a court. I can have my attorney send you a letter saying stop telling people I look funny and eat worms for breakfast. It’s not true and if you keep it up I’ll take further legal action. (Like for ex, I’ll sue your ass for slander and mental distress, harassment, and crimes against humanity.) It’s a threat of potential further legal action if someone keeps on saying/doing something that might be legally actionable. Sometimes there really is a cause for action, sometimes there’s not. But such a letter could give someone pause either way.

    If Danielle had actually filed suit in a court of law against Dina, there would be a record of some kind. The filing at least would be a public record.

    • sarah says:

      You are correct. If in fact they were speaking of a cease and desist letter (I believe they were). I’m assuming that Danielle may have used this as a scare tactic, often times that’s what it is. Not all the time, but as one of our “Bravo stars” (this term is used so loosely and inappropriatley now days) put it, Anyone with a crayon and a piece of paper can file a lawsuit/write a book/send a cease and desist letter etc.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Yes. I don’t know why people wouldn’t take what the HoWives say with a big chunk of rock salt. Or why some seem to instead immediately run with it like all of a sudden these HoWives are fact finders, truth tellers tather than a bunch of ditzy broads acting like fools (or worse) for TV.

        I wouldn’t look to the HoWives to have an actual clue about what they’re talking about…I wouldn’t trust them for legal or financial literacy (or advise on what to wear either). They’re like not exactly the brightest bulbs or reliable sources of info. Remember: bankruptcy not true, just a rumor; houses weren’t under foreclosure; juicy wasn’t drunk when he wrecked his truck; Teresa is nice.

  39. Wall St Lady says:

    Laura I sent this to my assistant to “clean it as she does all my business letters.
    It has not gone as she has not had time & I she does business b4 personal. If u would re post it I can copy & paste it in with YOUR gifted professional editing
    Thank you Thank U Thank U !

    • Sha2000 says:

      WL, please do not assume all are on board, because we are not…the daily speculation made here from a keyboard is just speculation.

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      I have to agree with Sha2000. I do not want to be included in a letter such as this. This gentleman has enough on his plate, and while I think you might feel you are being helpful, it might be taking away from his time actually doing the job. I don’t think he can rely on sources from blogs in front of a court of law. From all that I have read about him, he is a very capable individual and he will get the job done. To innundate him with phone calls, e-mails and letters will only hamper his ability, take up his time, and maybe frustrate him.

      I pointed out the grammatical/spelling issues on the letter b/c I thought you sent it out already. Had it said “draft,” I wouldn’t have even commented on it.

  40. AZ Girl says:

    I re-watched the beginning of last nights reunion. Why would Teresa go bat shit crazy over a simple comment Danielle made about having contact with her nephew?

    I think there is a lot of personal information Danielle has on Teresa, Caroline and Jacqueline and their families that they do not want made public. Information obtained through her investigator. Information that the viewer is not privy to and they do not want disclosed.
    Danielle has nothing to lose in making this information public. Danielle makes comments sometimes that are down right confusing. Crazy? maybe. She said last night after the fight the nephew comment that she was telling the truth and Teresa went after her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Caroline said that they investigated Danielle – you need to know who you are letting into your life. Alittle out there but if that is their MO then it should not bother them if Danielle did the same. Unfortunately, they turned up 25 year old dirt and Danielle has the fresh poo. As my kids would say, it sucks to be you! lol Let the games begin.

  41. Wall St Lady says:

    I find the guest bloggers language offensive. If we go to a comedy club we expect to hear crude language in the name of comedy. But this blog is not a comedy club.
    I love the good manners of the Lynnfam. I am particularly sensitive as awful language was used around me by men in the securities business. I was very good at stopping it arounD me as I was offended.
    I would mearly say ,usually to a group ,u guys have the manners of a field hand and that I wished they had a better command of the English language that reflected their college educations I would tell them they should b able to come up w/ some more intelligent words than the common words they were using to discuss very sophisticated topics.
    Last she said “kill one self” or something that is offensive to myself & one month bo who have suffered suicide.
    She did make me laugh when she called Caroline tuna breath

  42. Wall St Lady says:

    Sha2000 what part is unsubstantiated. Help me & I hope to be enlightened or to enlighten you.

  43. error404 says:

    Thanks for the recap! It certainly saved me the effort of having to watch and be sickened live. LOL

  44. siennarose says:

    Let’s face it, we all have faults, we just don’t show them to the world through national TV……..Thank God!
    Teresa is just as big a nut case as anyone else. Jackie likes for everyone the think she doesn’t pay attention to what others do!!! And Caroline, is the biggest pain in the ass with her tough guy act.
    But did you notice that it was Danielle who showed concern for Caroline when she was talking about Albie, & asked someone to get Caroline some tissues & the true look of a mother who was listienng & felt the pain in Carolines’ voice as she did so.
    Yes, Danielle has her faults, she likes to talk big & mean, but she was the one in tears & visibly shaken off the set, not Teresa, Jackie or Caroline.
    As for Andy, I didn’t like the side of him I saw last night either, but then again that is just me.
    As for BRAVO TV, I will only be watching Bethenny if she comes back on, or something with Alex, Ramona, Sonja & of course Bethenny. If JILL (spit) is in the mix I won’t watch, I have never in 69 yrs hated anyone, that is until I saw her. JILL is just plain EVIL & VILE.

    and BRAVO I could give a crap less if you post this or not, after last nights BS

  45. Wall St Lady says:

    Sha2oo. Maybe I miss understood u that I had miss represented u ?
    BTW WSM in banking was the lead creditor of lots of bankruptcies.

    Any assets money, property, stocks that are transferred w/ in one year of filing bankruptcy are considered assets of the estate in bankruptcy and any attempt to transfer out of the estate is called fraudulent conveyance and is civil or criminal crime depending the value of what is hidden

    • Sha2000 says:

      My biggest issue is, I draw a line at making comments on a blog vs actually composing a letter that can hurt someone deservedly or not (besides my point that we don’t know them and therefore aren’t privy to facts). My first comments on this blog were that I felt the use of the word “hate” for people we don’t know (JZ specifically); then I grew to enjoy some of the comments & snark & yes many were insightful, so I stayed. Point is, I enjoy the blog to a point & see no need to cross my own personal line by going beyond reading & commenting to a territory I feel can hurt someone. Sometimes I even find really juicy gossip but can’t post it because I feel it is hurtful to the HW’s, EVEN though I do not know them. I am NOT perfect but I strive to be conscience of the effect of my actions & compassionate. That’s all. I hope you understand WL…you do your thing & I do mine it all is okay, but we each must decide what works for us : )

      Got to go! Wishing you a good day !!!

      • Sha2000 says:

        Opps Correction! dropped off some of my comments, cat was blocking my screen lol:

        ……My first comments on this blog were that I felt the use of the word “hate” for people we don’t know (JZ specifically); was strong & wrong…..

        (hope that makes sense)

    • Forgive me for speaking out about this, as you all seem to have a close knit group here and I’m just an occasional poster.

      The issue for me is that the Guidices are involved in a legal action which is public information, as the documents and court issues are public. Also the Guidices are willing public figures.

      But in no way did I come here to become a participant in an effort to influence or inform their, or the state of N.J.’s, legal actions. That could have legal repercussions in itself.

      With all due respect, had I known in advance that I would, by simply commenting on a public blog, be drawn into your effort–however well-intentioned, I would have made a different choice. It’s not that personal to me. The state of New Jersey has the burden of proof. I’m just watching and discussing a stupid show.

  46. DJG says:

    I’ve been lurking here for ages and decided to come out of the closet and post regarding Teresa’s nephew and her furor over Danielle saying that. (BTW, love Lynn and everyone here because you can actually discuss the show without resorting to internecine fighting).

    First I refer you to this blog that was started pre-HWONJ:

    http://oncommonground.blogspot.com/2008/04/real-housewives-of-new-jersey.html?commentPage=1

    One thing that’s clear is that Teresa and Joe’s sister hate (with a capital H) each other and don’t even speak. That’s the reason she freaked because Danielle knows the history of their battles and knowing Danielle maybe engaged each other.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Ah, there’s that old blog! Saw it before, didn’t note where it was. Thanks for the link!

      So T maybe concerned/pissed that D and her SIL joined forces and shared some “fambly” secrets? That actually makes sense. And would be a real threat to T & make her well….crazy. If so, well played Danielle. Well played.

      And sounds more on point than the “love child” theory to explain the “nephew” reference.

  47. Sha2000 says:

    Opps Correction! dropped off some of my comments, cat was blocking my screen lol:

    ……My first comments on this blog were that I felt the use of the word “hate” for people we don’t know (JZ specifically); was strong & wrong…..

    (hope that makes sense)

  48. Wall St Lady says:

    BTW I have personally put helpful ideas in front of trustee who were to redistribute assets to my clients. The last one a $300 mill fraud. WSM was very involved as a Sr creditor w/the many companies who borrowed from his bank during the times of commercial realest rate bankruptcies. He was one of the few banks to get his $$ when Donald Dump went bankrupt big time. Although these are corporate bankruptcies we believe we have some insight.
    When I spoke w/John he was happy to hear from me & appreciated the moral support case is small compared to the Mad off trustee whom by the way is in the news weekly & I read every word. So I am ,in my humble, opinion somewhat qualified to talk to John. I think he could read my letter at some time in court but only if he proves fraud. If he can’t prove fraud lent intent all bets are off & juicy & Trash a get a fresh start that BTW they freely mention but DON’T have it yet.
    Last no ones moniker way mentioned just the blog name. Those of u who don’t want to b “LynnFam” as I created that specific category on purpose,feel free to express your dissent ion ;for one won’t hold it against you. I started out by saying forgive me if I overstepped a boundary. Classic Lynn blog what we call in the securities industry “self regulation” always happens b4 the regulatory bodies can figure out how to fix the problem lynn’s blog Rocks & U DO Too

  49. Eve says:

    How would J know that D’s kids cry at school every day? Are teachers violating privacy laws? That’s another lawsuit.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Mom’s often get the scoop on things that happen at school from other mom’s; could be how she heard.

  50. Wall St Lady says:

    Last thing I will say sh2000. I am the last person to hat & I haven’t said anything on this blog that could hurt any of the Ho wives. I have poked fun at many of thumbed I have been on a soap box for justice for the people Trasha & Juicy did not pay. I always champion the underdog & identify w/ them.
    It is a fact they owe $11 million dollars. It is a fact that the trustee is investigating fraud lent conveyance. That is not speculation.
    I fell the same way I would feel if I herd screams out side on the street I would call 911 & hop on the elevator w/ the baseball bat we keep in the umbrella stand. Now mind u we have a crew of door men who may or may not respond. But I would grab a rain coat to b there. WSM recently took a cab driver by the shirt because he was abusing a woman w/a baby carriage who happened to have on a head scarf. He could have gotten arrested had it not been for 2 witnesses who took their time to get involved. I came to this blog to vent about Teresa & complain ever so quietly about Miss B (sorry I couldn’t resist that)but
    IAM ANGRY at Teresa & Jo and forgive me I want & believe in Justice.
    I don’t assume u don’t want justice too. I think sha2000 I am hands on & maybe u r the opposite But trust me I am making few assumptions about Trash a & Juicy & I don’t believe the LynnFam that expressed their disgust did it in Fun !
    You have been so polite to me and I so appreciate that. I hope I have been as well as that was my intention. As an older blogger (Quincy & I are the same age)I in a Motherly fashion off blog can assume my subordinates agree w/ me. I know they are sometimes intimated and won’t disagree with me. So again I appreciate your perspective. Love WSL

  51. sydney says:

    Dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks-Jacqueline has to drink the MANZO PURPLE KOOLAID for fear of GODMOTHER CAROLINE’S wrath! That woman is a ballbuster and no one is allowed to cross her as she rules “THE FAMILY”. Did you catch the seething looks she was sending Teresa’s way when Andy was questioning her re the “non-foreclosed” home. It was obvious Caroline really wanted to blurt out the truth about Joe & T’s irresponsible fiduciary escapades. Oh and BTW there’s no ‘effin way she’s only 48 years old ! She looked 56 in that terrible one armed schmata with the one white spot on her chest not covered with faux tan or makeup. Piss poor makeup job I’d say.

    • Quincy IL says:

      I’m 57 and I think her skin is better than my friends who are around that age. In fact, I think she looks good for upper 40’s.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Well she shared her beauty tip; shaving her face. Lol. If I ever use that tip it won’t be in front of my hubby : 0

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          was that the weirdest thing – to exfoliate her face??? there are products specifically made to do that and I don’t think a razor blade would be a good idea – how do you explain you nicked your face shaving? lol

          • Sha2000 says:

            Lol, it’s funny in good funny way isn’t it? And it reveals there is something truly good about Caroline sharing that on tv, people have many sides, don’t they?

  52. siennarose says:

    Gee Sha2000,
    Did I rock your boat or push a button when I used the word “HATE”?
    To bad, but I am allowed to feel any damn way I want to about anyone.

    • siennarose says:

      Make mental note to self, of words not allowed on this blog….haha

    • Sha2000 says:

      Excuse me? I actually never saw your name before prior to this posting. Prehap’s you should have read all my comments up-thread before you get so twisted.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Oh & while you are making your mental notes, you might add “read & think BEFORE responding”.

  53. Humbruh says:

    Great recap. So glad I’m not the only one that thought Teresa’s dress looked like a 1970’s love seat that use to be covered in plastic.

    I’m so pissed at Andy for not having the balls to call bullshit on these women, especially Teresa. When Teresa said that the Nordstroms & Neiman’s bills were wrong, any person with common sense would have had questions such as these immediately fly out of his/her mouth: (1) Don’t you have to present evidence of debts being included in your bankruptcy filing? (2) Isn’t a bankruptcy filing a legal document? (3) Since the answers to questions 1 & 2 are “yes” & you just admitted on national tv that the amount listed in the filing is false, couldn’t that be considered purgery under the law?

    I hope to God someone from the IRS is watching every second of this & is smart enough to use every last bit of footage to nail these lying, theiving bastards to the wall!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      my bff and I were watching together last night over the phone and the first comment out of her was “Teresa, my couch is calling and it wants it’s fabric back!”…..as for Teresa of the never straight story, I hope someone nails her for it soon too.

  54. siennarose says:

    Well Lynn,
    Have enjoyed your site for the past couple of days with most of the comments, both the good, the bad & the “UGLY”. But at my age, I don’t need someone policing my comments,. They are called “FREEDOM OF SPEECH”. Continued good luck with your site…………..Ann

    • Sha2000 says:

      Ann, No one policed your comments & as far as I can see it was *you* who policed mine:

      “Gee Sha2000,
      Did I rock your boat or push a button when I used the word “HATE”?
      To bad, but I am allowed to feel any damn way I want to about anyone.”-siennarose

      “Make mental note to self, of words not allowed on this blog….haha”-siennarose

      in response to my comment that was never even addressed or in response to you:

      “I felt the use of the word “hate” for people we don’t know (JZ specifically); was strong & wrong…..”-Sha2000

      Care to show me where I said you cannot us a word, any word???? You can’t because I’ve NEVER said it, you assumed I did & I stand by my remarks that you need to reread & stop reacting & think.

      It’s hypocritical for you to cite your right to freedom of speech while simultaneously ignoring mine. You have a right to speak your mind but not insult me as you did, ESPECIALLY since you clearly had no reason to.

      If you actually reread & comprehend; you will see that you were mistaken.

      • ShyAsrai says:

        oh SHA admit you are the hypocrite. you must not realize that you did exactly ” It’s hypocritical for you to cite your right to freedom of speech while simultaneously ignoring mine. ” with me when i asked you (nicely) to be mindful of making sweeping political statements that others might find offensive.

  55. Okay one last comment before I hop off this crazy train: for the chick comparing me to Kelly? One big diff: to the best of my knowledge NOBODY thinks Kelly is sane and I DO have my share of people who enjoy my caustic, sophmoric take on these rags. B) I wentr from a newleywed to having a housefull of family that was displaced by the flood that wiped out my Mother’s home here in Nashville in May. My Mother’s health has deteriorated to the point ehere most of the discs in her neck have degenerated and she has to have neck surgery sometime in the next few weeks. I have become a 24/7 caretaker. So if I’m a little wound up, yeah, I am. Lynn has been with me through this whole thing and lets me blow off steam, but I’m not making an excuse. I write exactly the same way anyway. I am a comedy writer for some pretty sick comics out there and make a decent living at it. I write my opinion of them, and you get to write yours. If you dont like mine, skip it. If I dont like yours, I skip yours. Whats the point in ragging each OTHER out here? Seriously? What’s the benefit? Not liking WORDS and SPELLINGS? What is this 1812? Good God!

    • Sha2000 says:

      “If you dont like mine, skip it. If I dont like yours, I skip yours. Whats the point in ragging each OTHER out here? Seriously? What’s the benefit? Not liking WORDS and SPELLINGS? What is this 1812? Good God!”

      Agreed & well said!!!!

      I admit I said up thread that I wished you skipped the language (no pearls & not a prude ; ) ) but made sure to say I appreciated that you blogged. It dosen’t hurt to be nice. People can be assumptive & rude…read up a few paragraphs & look at what I last responded to…I’m not allowed to say I think the word hate is strong to use for people we’ve never met….what is this HS?…in 1812, lol.

      Best wishes to your mom Beth.

  56. I found this little jewel of an article about the perks (or not) of having your business featured on a Real Housewife show.

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/101740563_Real_housewives__better_publicity.html

    After all the discussion about Danielle’s breast reconstruction surgery at the strip center mall, I found it interesting that Ashley had her cosmetic surgery done by the same doctor Kassir.

    Another interesting tidbit, Kim D is no longer allowed to “liquor-up” her clients with Mimosa’s while shopping. I always wondered about Jac and Teresa hitting the road after a shopping trip at Posche!

  57. Wall St Lady says:

    Sha2000 & Ann hang in there u both provoke thoughts necessary for growth & I appreciate u both. Ann I was glad u diverted sha2000 from me as she is a worthy opponent. I once had a poster say I hate u although it took a while we realized she confused me w/a troll. Anyway we r great “friends” in the sandbox now ! Come play, we have fun & you two r smart !

    • Sha2000 says:

      WSL, quite different. You and I were having a discussion & were opposite of opinion; through it all we both were respectful of each other & tried to understand each others opinion…not the cases w/siennarose.

      Out of the blue I received this nasty & aggressive message without ever conversing with her prior:

      siennarose says:
      August 31, 2010 at 4:16 pm

      “Gee Sha2000,
      Did I rock your boat or push a button when I used the word “HATE”?
      To bad, but I am allowed to feel any damn way I want to about anyone.”

      (RUDE,RUDE,RUDE!!!!!)
      immediately followed by:

      siennarose says:
      August 31, 2010 at 4:24 pm

      “Make mental note to self, of words not allowed on this blog….haha”

      Apparently she did not like that I had said that I think the using of the word “hate” is wrong & strong when applying it to people you’ve never actually met. I gave my opinion, period. Now why would she come on so strong & rude? Especially after someone (me) said the word hate is strong??? LOL!!!! She must really like that word to get so worked up, she’s defending hate, lol! As I advised he she need to go back and re-read as she obviously over reacted & never comprehended what I said. Then she comes back talking about her freedom of speech when indeed it was her that attacked mine! Ironic to be sure but she misses that! (And if your reading this Ann, I refer you to Aug 6th blog where I talk about EVERYONE entitled to freedom of speech.)

      My point is she is disrespectful, and that is something neither of us has shown on this blog & therefore not in the same league as our conversation yesterday. No comparison. And I never felt as if we were “opponents”, you & I, just of different views…as I said before to you ALL GOOD you & I : )

      My motto btw is “you don’t earn respect, I give it to you because you deserve it & you are a human just like I am. You can only earn disrespect.” And I will never be rude without good reason, that’s just not me, but I will stand up for myself when I need to.

      Anyway, thanks for your thoughts WSL, I can see you are a very well meaning person & I want you to know it’s all appreciated as I strive to show good intentions too.

      Have a GREAT B_DAY!
      Susan

  58. Wall St Lady says:

    I am exhausted !
    But I emailed squirrels

    I hope u know u r missed ! !
    The unwanted bugger did not mention the R word.I think see was forewarned in honor of u.

    I spoke w/ another poster who explained she was gone for months due to the troll’s ugly fights that made her upset.

    I hope it does not take that long for u to return as u r the squirrel that jumps all over the place leaving delicious nuts while at the same time hiding nuts to be discovered when u least expect but need them most. Nuggets of wisdom r needed by all.
    We need u summer winter spring & Fall.
    Chummy Chummy ! (When speaking to a loved heart beat that means : come here ,come here !
    If u wish to let Rocky know u need nuts :
    waterdancer1@gmail.com

  59. Wall St Lady says:

    Chas thanks for the tickle over Trasha. U Rock

    I don’t do face book much less twitter. But I love love love posters who post tweets we need to see

  60. Mama says:

    My apologies if this has already been addressed (I’ve read only 50 to 100 comments) but I happen to know that distributed sex tapes can not be sold or even released without the consent of those involved on camera.

    Danielle could have stopped the sale of this tape by simply refusing to sign off on it. For her to say she is not profiting from the sale of her tape is either a lie or it hasn’t made enough money to cover the distributor’s costs.

    While I have never made a sex tape (you’re welcome) a relative of mine has (this person is somewhat “famous”) and we have all learned from their experience.

  61. LindaNewYork says:

    Did you watch the same show as the rest of us? Are you having an affair with Danielle?They should have stuck it to Danielle even more.

  62. Dt says:

    They keep giving Danielle exactly what she wants. Why? Although I am not a “fan” of any of the ladies, Danielle is by far the worst. And I’m sure she loved coming off as the calm one, while the ladies, (Jaclyn & Teresa), lost their marbles. They act as if we don’t know Danielle is crazy. For pete’s sake, we watch the show.

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