I Hate Jill Zarin Breaking News Giudice BK 9/4/10

I Hate Jill Zarin       BREAKING NEWS!         Friday Updates                                September 3, 2010


Yesterday, the US Trustee filed a lawsuit against the Giudices, to block their bankruptcy discharge.  Attached is a copy.  A predictable response to the complaint will be, at least initially, these are only allegations. However you will note that the allegations are all based on the Giudices’ own sworn testimony and their own documents. 

See the document by clicking above on the page marked “Giudice Documents”

No new episode of The Real Housewives of DC aired last night to the disappointment of many fans.  Apparently it was due to the Labor Day weekend but it really makes no sense because I doubt that a Thursday airing would have affected ratings all that much.  Even stranger is that Bravo will air the New Jersey reunion on Labor Day, go figure? 

Mary Amons from DC took to Twitter last night just to ensure fans that they’ll be back next week with a new episode, a little tweet conversation I had with Mary…

 @MaryAmons:  Thoughts on episode 4? M gained at llllleeeeeeeast 20 pounds since her wedding? Hmmmmmmm….

@LynnNChicago:  @maryamons Thoughts? How about you making fun of someone who does makeup at Nordstrom? you asked 

@MaryAmons:  @LynnNChicago read my blog on BravoTv.com. I am about honoring and building people!

@LynnNChicago:  @maryamons  You hide it well on TV

Clearly from Mary’s first tweet, she was looking for fans to bash Michaele, I had no intention of doing that with Mary, that’s for sure so I thought I’d call her out on her own behavior.  Mary goes on to tell us that she is “about” honoring and building people.   Well, we haven’t seen much evidence of that at all! 

The rumors are flying fast and furious, some pretty reliable sources are reporting that there is already a new member of the New Jersey Housewives cast  and she’s already been filming for the show!

Teresa’s sister- in-law Melissa Gorga, married to Teresa’s brother is New Jersey’s newest victim.   Reports claim that Melissa has been interested in becoming a Bravo Housewife since they began the New Jersey franchise but Teresa Giudice has put the brakes on her aspirations.  Now that Dina is gone and most likely Danielle as well, the show needed some fresh blood.  Sticking with the New Jersey theme, another family member was recruited to fill the void. 


EXCLUSIVE: NJ Housewife Teresa Giudice ‘Doesn’t Want To Be On The Show’ With Sister-In-Law | Radar Online http://t.co/CApcl3t


Reports are that Melissa’s baby is the nephew that Danielle was referring to at the reunion of the RHONJ that caused Teresa to go bat shit crazy and scream in Danielle’s face.  Teresa has been talking to as many media outlets as she could get her hands on since the airing with her story of her nephew’s birth.  Teresa is claiming that she was present for the child’s birth and even missed her scheduled Bravo Talk Bubble chat that evening so that she could be at the hospital.  But Jacqueline, in her attempts to help Teresa with her story, actually contradicted Teresa’s claim and tweeted that Teresa had been with her in California at the time but visited the baby as soon as she returned to New Jersey. 

Jacqueline’s explanation:

@MsFran53 No, there is no Tara or love child.Lol!Tamra from OC HW was out 2dinner w/us the night of accident,maybe that’s the blond pple saw

@jayneb She didn’t want her bringing up her family who had nothing to do w/ the show & 2try 2cause trouble 4 her family w/more lies

Of COURSE she aknowledged her nephews birth. She ADORES him.

@k8egirl12 she thought T didn’t acknowledge T’s nephews birth but T was @ hospital the day AFTER cause we were in Ca. the day OF doing press

The day after, according to Jacqueline, Teresa’s story is that she was there for the birth and that is why she missed the Talk Bubble…. They really should get together and get their story straight before they put it out there.

I completely believe the stories that Teresa does not like her sister-in-law, Melissa.  There are so many things that would make Teresa jealous, Melissa has a baby boy, Melissa has more money than the Giudice’s, Melissa has a bigger home than Teresa and Joe, Melissa is much better looking than Teresa, and the list goes on…. 

Teresa is talking to the press so much that it is almost as if she’s trying too hard to dispel the rumors, thou might just protest too much Teresa! 

Teresa is rumored to be holding out for more money before signing on for another season of RHONJ, but it is also reported that while she wants more money, more freedom to do outside projects and a cut of the sale of the DVD’s and residuals, it is also rumored that Teresa refuses to continue with the show while her sister in law Melissa is a cast mate. 

Bravo usually gets what they want and they clearly want Teresa as a cast member of RHONJ, but the fact that they’ve begun filming with Melissa has seriously cut into Teresa’s bargaining power. 

EXCLUSIVE: A New Real Housewives Of New Jersey Cast Member Revealed! | Radar Online http://t.co/Sb306gE


Does anyone remember Bravo’s “Kell On Earth”?  The unsuccessful series followed PR Firm People’s Revolution and owner Kelly Cutrone from New York to Los Angeles to London and back.  As the series wound down, its cast took to Twitter to Tweet HARD for another season, they encouraged fans to write in to Bravo, practically begging for another season. 

Apparently that campaign was unsuccessful, and Kelly Cutrone couldn’t be bitterer, here are her tweets:

Babe Kell on Earth is a one off – we have a new deal at MTV and network

Real housewives DC to Danielle Staub singing -Reality is the new Snuff

Watching real housewives DC – this is the most disgusting gross boring show that I have ever seen

Danielle Staub singing w/ her gal pal is like watching a Halloween version of the Carpenters on the Simpsons – thIS is so horrendous

If Kelly Cutrone can’t BE on Bravo, apparently she must SLAM Bravo, but notice she is still WATCHING Bravo!   She always did seem to be a wild card with a quick temper, would have been more professional just to say nothing and move on.  Burning bridges is never a good idea. 

Bravo has released a few preview video’s for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, they’re just a bunch of crazy bitches just like any other city, family members, drama, husbands and kids but folks, these ladies are the real deal, they have the big money that this series was originally based on.  I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that we probably won’t see any of these ladies homes in short sale or filing bankruptcy anytime soon.  You can watch their video’s here:


Each of the ladies were asked who their favorite housewife is from other shows, they didn’t all answer the question but they all admitted to watching the Housewives.   Here is my first impression of the six Beverly Hills Housewives:

Adrienne looks like a train wreck at first glance, she claims to put her children first and everything else secondary but also says that she can relate to Jill Zarin the most so she immediately lost points with me!  Her family is in the sports entertainment business and she works alongside them, her voice sounds like she may be a long time smoker or possibly she just needed to clear her throat throughout the interview.

Taylor seems like the fun girl and said that she related most to Bethenny, Jill and Luann from New York.  I’m still reserving judgment on this one.

Camille was married to Kelsey Grammar and does talk a bit about her divorce, she and her husband produce television shows including “Medium” and “Girlfriends”.  She openly states that she doesn’t know what will happen to the production company after the marriage is dissolved.  Camille claims that not only did her husband Kelsey encourage her to join the show but called the production company promising them filming access to some of his productions.  She refused to mention one housewife but said she could relate to all of the Orange County ladies.

Kyle tells the camera that she was a “child actress her entire life”.  Really?  I think we found the Kelly of the bunch, but she also claims to be a friend of Bethenny’s so she can’t be all bad.  She said that she relates mostly to the ladies of Orange County and New York.  She’s also sure to tell us that she’s Paris Hilton’s aunt.  I’m sure her other nieces and nephews weren’t too offended. 

Lisa has a Jill size obsession with her dogs and her children are grown and out of the house.  She owns a couple of restaurants and tells us that NeNe has visited her restaurant on several occasions, she also reveals that NeNe seemed to be making fun of some of the housewives who have had plastic surgery but most recently has come into her restaurant sporting a new nose! 

Kim is completely obsessed about having been a child star and goes into great detail about every TV show and movie that she’s been in.  Sorry, Kim, I’ve never heard of you.  She talks about how she wasn’t able to go anywhere without press following her and is excited about getting that back.  She claims to have retired to raise a family, however, I think we all know that many child stars are done as soon as they grow breasts.  Kim related most to Tamra from Orange County.

All six of the ladies seem to think that Beverly Hills is the best of the best when it comes to Housewife cities, New Jersey wasn’t even mentioned in any of their interviews, not surprisingly they probably like to pretend it doesn’t exist so as not to attach themselves to it in anyway. 

They spoke of the major differences between New York City and Los Angeles, no surprises there, none of them had anything bad to say necessarily but we all know how very different these two cities are.  Mostly, they seemed to want to set themselves apart from Orange County.  I think these were prompted by producers as they questioned the ladies as they seemed to want to provide viewers with distinct differences between life in Orange County and life in Beverly Hills as I think some housewives fans have criticized Bravo for producing two different series in two cities that are so close to one another.

Those are my first impressions, I’ll be interested to see after a few episodes if these have changed, and I’m sure that they will.  What do all of you think of these ladies so far?  Will you be watching?

Giudice Bankruptcy Document filed you can see it properly in the link above but here is the content1UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICEOFFICE OF THE UNITED STATES TRUSTEE



Michael A. Artis, Esquire (MA 4024)

Shining J. Hsu, Esquire (SH 9564)

Robert J. Schneider (RS 0595)

One Newark Center, Suite 2100

Newark, NJ 07102

Telephone: (973) 645-3014

Fax: (973) 645-5993





In re: : Chapter 7


Giuseppe Giudice and :

Teresa Giudice, : Case No. 09-39032 (MS)


Debtors. :


: Adversary No. ____________

Roberta A. DeAngelis, :

United States Trustee, :

: The Honorable Morris Stern

Plaintiff, :


v. :


Giuseppe Giudice and :

Teresa Giudice, :


Defendants. :



COMPLAINT OBJECTING TO DISCHARGERoberta A. DeAngelis, the United States Trustee, Region 3 (“UST”), having aCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main2JURISDICTION AND VENUE1. This is an adversary proceeding brought under 11 U.S.C. § 727(c) andFACTUAL BACKGROUNDThe Defendants’ Original Filings7. On October 29, 2009, the Defendants filed a voluntary petition for reliefCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main3Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main4Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main5The Defendants’ Initial Amendments27. In a letter dated November 18, 2009, that was mailed to John Sywilok,Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main6Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main7The Meeting of Creditors41. The meeting of creditors pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 341(a) (“Meeting ofThe Defendants’ Subsequent Amendments45. On January 8, 2010, the Defendants filed a second Amended Statement ofCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main8The Defendant Wife’s Rule 2004 Examination53. On April 23, 2010, an examination held pursuant to Federal Rule ofCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main9The Defendant Husband’s Rule 2004 Examination57. On April 23, April 30, and May 26, 2010, a Rule 2004 Examination wasCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main10Defendants’ Document Production Subsequent to the Rule 2004 Examinations62. The Defendant wife produced a Certificate of Formation from the State ofhttp://www.tgfabulicious.com.Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main11FIRST COUNT72. The UST repeats and realleges each and every allegation contained inCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main12Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main13SECOND COUNT85. The UST repeats and realleges each and every allegation contained inCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main14Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main15THIRD COUNT98. The UST repeats and realleges each and every allegation contained inCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main16FOURTH COUNT106. The UST repeats and realleges each and every allegation contained inCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main17FIFTH COUNT113. The UST repeats and realleges each and every allegation contained inCase 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main18Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main19Case 09-39032-MS Doc 109 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc Main   


post office address at One Newark Center, Suite 2100, Newark, NJ, 07102, by and

through counsel, by way of complaint objecting to the discharge of Giuseppe Giudice and

Teresa Giudice (“Defendants”), respectfully alleges as follows:

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Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 7001(4).

2. This Court has jurisdiction over this matter pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 157

and 1334.

3. This is a core proceeding over which this Court has jurisdiction pursuant

to 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2)(A) and (J).

4. Venue is proper pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1409.

5. The UST has standing to bring this complaint under 11 U.S.C. § 307 and

28 U.S.C. § 586(a)(3).

6. This complaint is timely filed as the original deadline for filing a

complaint objecting to discharge was extended by order of this Court pursuant to Federal

Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 4004(b) to March 1, 2010, then to May 3, 2010, and

finally to September 3, 2010.

under chapter 7 of title 11 of the United States Code, with accompanying Schedules,

Statement of Financial Affairs, and other required documents.

8. The Defendants disclosed three properties on Schedule A: their primary

residence at 6 Indian Lane, Towaco, NJ, valued at $1.7 million; 86 Pine Brook Road,

Lincoln Park, NJ, valued at $200,000; and 49 Sylvia Lane, Stafford, NJ, valued at


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9. The Defendants disclosed interests in three businesses on Schedule B: 6

Glenwood Avenue Associates, LLC; 168 South Clinton Street Associates, LLC; and 17

Webster Place Associates, LLC.

10. The Defendants did not disclose any bank accounts on Schedule B.

11. The Defendants did not disclose any vehicles on Schedule B.

12. The Defendants did not disclose any “other contingent and unliquidated

claims of every nature” on Schedule B.

13. The Defendants did not disclose any interest in “patents, copyrights, and

other intellectual property” on Schedule B.

14. The Defendants did not disclose any “other personal property of any kind

not already listed” on Schedule B.

15. The Defendants disclosed $6,127,454.51 in total unsecured debts on

Schedule F.

16. The Defendants stated on Schedule I that as of the petition date Defendant

husband received $3,250 in gross monthly income as owner of G&G Stucco & Stone

Specialist, Inc., plus an additional $10,000 in monthly assistance from family members.

17. The Defendants further stated on Schedule I that as of the petition date

Defendant wife was unemployed, but received $3,333.33 in monthly “income from


18. Upon information and belief, Defendant wife is one of the stars of the

reality television show “Real Housewives of New Jersey,” which has aired on the Bravo

cable television network since May 2009.

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19. The Defendants indicated on Schedule I that as of the petition date they

did not anticipate any increase in income within the year following the filing of their


20. The Defendants signed the Declaration Concerning Debtor’s Schedules

attesting under penalty of perjury that the information contained in the Schedules was

true and correct.

21. The Defendants disclosed on their Statement of Financial Affairs that their

gross income from employment, trade, profession, or operation of business totaled

$575,000 in 2008, $598,000 in 2007, and $312,000 in 2006.

22. The Defendants did not disclose on their Statement of Financial Affairs

any year-to-date gross income for 2009.

23. The Defendants did not disclose on their Statement of Financial Affairs

any income other than from employment, trade, profession, or operation of business

during the two years preceding the filing of their petition.

24. The Defendants disclosed on their Statement of Financial Affairs interests

in five businesses: 168-170 South Clinton Street Associates, LLC; 17 Webster Place

Associates, LLC; 6 Glenwood Avenue Associates, LLC; G&G Realty Holding, Inc.; and

G&G Stucco & Stone Specialist, Inc.

25. The Defendants indicated on their Statement of Financial Affairs that,

during the year preceding the filing of their petition, they made no gifts, incurred no

losses, and transferred no assets outside of the ordinary course of business.

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26. The Defendants signed the statement at the end of the Statement of

Financial Affairs attesting under penalty of perjury that the information contained in the

Statement of Financial Affairs was true and correct.

Esq., the panel trustee appointed in this case (the “Case Trustee”), and was also mailed to

the Defendants’ attorney, counsel to secured creditor Wachovia Bank, N.A. raised several

discrepancies in the Defendants’ Schedules and Statement of Financial Affairs.

28. The discrepancies included, but were not limited to, the Defendants’

failure to disclose ownership of 393 Lexington Avenue, Clifton, NJ and 399 Lexington

Avenue, Clifton, NJ.

29. On November 20, 2009, the Case Trustee sent a letter to the Defendants

requesting copies of their federal tax returns for 2006, 2007, and 2008; documents related

to all real property they owned; a list of their jewelry; 2007 and 2008 federal tax returns

for the entities identified on the Schedules filed with the petition; copies of bank

statements and cancelled checks for the Defendants’ bank accounts for the year leading

up to the filing of the petition; a list of all cash payments exceeding $750 made during the

year preceding the petition; copies of any contracts with Bravo Entertainment; and copies

of paystubs from April through November 2009.

30. Thereafter, on December 17, 2009, the Defendants amended several

Schedules and their Statement of Financial Affairs.

31. Amended Schedule A added the previously undisclosed properties at 393

Lexington Avenue, Clifton, NJ and 399 Lexington Avenue, Clifton, NJ.

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32. Amended Schedule B added the Defendant husband’s previously

undisclosed checking account at Community Bank of Bergen County with a balance of


33. Amended Schedule B added three businesses that were not disclosed on

the initial Schedules: G&G Realty Holding, Inc.; G&G Stucco & Stone Specialist, Inc.;

and 1576 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.

34. In addition, Amended Schedule B added three vehicles and a boat, which

had not previously been disclosed: a 2007 Cadillac Escalade V-8; a 2005 Ford F350 Long

Bed Truck; a Kawasaki Quad; and a 2004 Sea-DooBRP Sport Boat.

35. Amended Schedule F increased the Defendants’ total unsecured debts to


36. Amended Schedule G added a previously undisclosed lease for a 2005

Maserati Quattroporte.

37. The Defendants amended Schedule I to disclose that as of the petition date

Defendant wife had been employed for one month as an “Actress/TV Personality” by

Sirens Media, LLC, with $7,083.33 in gross monthly income.

38. The Defendants signed the Declaration Concerning Debtor’s Schedules

attesting under penalty of perjury that the information contained in the Amended

Schedules was true and correct.

39. The Amended Statement of Financial Affairs added a previouslyundisclosed

interest in a business named 1576 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.

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40. The Defendants signed the statement at the end of the Amended Statement

of Financial Affairs attesting under penalty of perjury that the information contained in

the Amended Statement of Financial Affairs was true and correct.

Creditors”) was held on December 23, 2009.

42. The Defendants testified under oath that the information contained in the

Petition, Schedules, and Statement of Financial Affairs filed as of that date was true and


43. The Defendant wife testified that she does not hold interests in any


44. The Defendants testified regarding the contents of documents purported to

be their 2006, 2007, and 2008 individual federal income tax returns, which had been

submitted to the Case Trustee prior to the Meeting of Creditors.

Financial Affairs which, contrary to the Defendants’ testimony at the Meeting of

Creditors and the disclosures made in the initial and amended Statement of Financial

Affairs, indicated that they had received no gross income from employment, trade,

profession, or operation of a business, during the two years preceding the filing of their


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46. The Defendants signed the statement at the end of the second Amended

Statement of Financial Affairs attesting under penalty of perjury that the information

contained in the second Amended Statement of Financial Affairs was true and correct.

47. On March 2, 2010, the Defendants filed a second Amended Schedule F

and a third Amended Statement of Financial Affairs.

48. The Second Amended Schedule F increased the Defendants’ total

unsecured debts to $7,192,723.47.

49. Of the total unsecured debt listed on the second Amended Schedule F,

$89,254.81 was attributable to consumer credit cards and store credit at Bloomingdale’s,

Neiman Marcus, and Nordstrom.

50. The Defendants signed the Declaration Concerning Debtor’s Schedules

attesting under penalty of perjury that the information contained in the second Amended

Schedule F was true and correct.

51. The third Amended Statement of Financial Affairs made no changes to the

Defendants’ disclosures regarding either the businesses they owned or their pre-petition

business income.

52. The Defendants signed the statement at the end of the third Amended

Statement of Financial Affairs attesting under penalty of perjury that the information

contained in the third Amended Statement of Financial Affairs was true and correct.

Bankruptcy Procedure 2004 (“Rule 2004 Examination”) was conducted of the Defendant


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54. The Defendant wife testified that she has a bank account with Lakeland

Bank, and she is the only person with signature authority on that account.

55. Defendant wife further testified that she owned a previously undisclosed

business by the name of TG Fabulicious, LLC, of which she is the sole member.

56. The Defendant wife also testified that she had a previously undisclosed

deal with Hyperion, an imprint of Buena Vista Books, Inc., to publish a previously

undisclosed cookbook titled “Skinny Italian.”

conducted of the Defendant husband.

58. The Defendant husband testified that prior to his employment with G&G

Stucco & Stone Specialist, Inc., for a three- to four-year period beginning in 2005 he

withdrew funds from his LLCs as needed.

59. The Defendant husband affirmed his signature on a mortgage application

dated July 23, 2008, which indicated that he received $54,269 in monthly income from

“G&G Stucco & Stone.”

60. The Defendant husband testified that the IRS informed him “three or four

or five months ago” that the purported 2006, 2007, and 2008 individual income tax

returns, which had previously been presented to the Case Trustee, were never actually


61. The Defendant husband also testified that he was the sole member of a

previously undisclosed business named 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC, which

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owns a parcel of real estate in Hillside, NJ, and collects rents from two commercial

businesses operating at that location.

New Jersey Department of the Treasury indicating that a business named TG Fabalicious,

LLC, was incorporated on April 20, 2009, with the only member listed as Teresa Giudice.

63. A Business Entity Amendment Filing with the State of New Jersey

Division of Revenue on June 5, 2009, amended the business’s name to TG Fabulicious,


64. Upon information and belief, TG Fabulicious, LLC operates an online

boutique that sells fashion items on a website entitled

65. The Defendant wife produced Lakeland Bank account statements in the

name of TG Fabalicious, LLC, for the period April 21, 2009, to January 29, 2010.

66. The Lakeland Bank account statements reveal deposits of $106,819.90

during the period April 21, 2009, to October 31, 2009, and $105,887.04 in debit card

purchases, checks, and other deductions during the same period.

67. The Lakeland Bank account statements also reveal deposits of

$192,620.90 during the three months after the filing of the Defendants’ petition.

68. Upon information and belief, the Defendant wife uses the Lakeland Bank

account as her own personal account, and commingles moneys she receives from TG

Fabulicious, LLC’s sales with moneys she receives from other sources.

69. The Defendants also produced a book contract between Hyperion and the

Defendant wife, pursuant to which the Defendant wife was to receive an initial advance

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of $250,000, an additional advance of $30,000, and royalties based on sales of her


70. The Defendant wife’s contract with Hyperion was dated October 22, 2009,

approximately one week prior to the petition date, and was signed by the Defendant wife

on November 18, 2009.

71. To date, the Defendants have not filed amended schedules that disclose the

existence of the book “Skinny Italian,” the publishing deal with Hyperion, Defendant

wife’s ownership of TG Fabulicious, LLC, or Defendant husband’s ownership of 1601

Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.




paragraphs 1 through 71 as if set forth herein at length.

73. The Defendants signed statements attesting, under penalty of perjury, that

the information on the Petition, Schedules, and Statement of Financial Affairs was true

and correct.

74. The Defendants testified at their Meeting of Creditors and their Rule 2004

Examinations under penalty of perjury.

75. The original Schedule B, which the Defendants attested under penalty of

perjury was true and correct, failed to disclose Defendant husband’s bank account, two

pieces of real property, the Defendants’ vehicles, the Defendant wife’s pending book

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deal, and certain business interests including TG Fabulicious, LLC and 1601 Maple

Avenue Associates, LLC.

76. The original Schedule I, which the Defendants attested under penalty of

perjury was true and correct, stated that Defendant wife was unemployed with no

likelihood of an increase in income in the near future, and understated her true income.

77. The Defendants knew that the information contained in their originallyfiled

Schedules and Statement of Financial Affairs was not true and correct.

78. Even after multiple amendments to their Schedules and Statement of

Financial Affairs, the Defendants still have not filed any amendments disclosing the

existence of the book “Skinny Italian,” the Defendant wife’s publishing deal with

Hyperion, the Defendant wife’s interest in TG Fabulicious, LLC, and the Defendant

husband’s interest in 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.

79. The Defendant wife testified at the Meeting of Creditors that she does not

have any interests in any businesses, which was a false oath in light of her subsequent

disclosure of her ownership of TG Fabulicious, LLC.

80. The Defendant husband testified at the Meeting of Creditors that the

filings with the Court had disclosed all of his business interests, which was a false oath in

light of his subsequent disclosure of his interest in 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.

81. The Defendants’ initial and amended Schedule I indicated that the

Defendant wife had no income on the petition date other than income from Sirens Media,

which was a false oath in light of documents indicating that she had pre-petition income

from operations of TG Fabulicious, LLC.

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82. The Defendants intentionally did not disclose the existence of the

undisclosed assets in order to conceal their existence from creditors and the Case Trustee.

83. As a result, the Defendants have knowingly and fraudulently made false

oaths in this case in the form of false statements on sworn documents filed with the Court

and false sworn testimony provided at the Meeting of Creditors.

84. Wherefore, the UST respectfully requests that this Court enter judgment

denying the Defendants’ discharge under 11 U.S.C. § 727(a)(4)(A) and providing for

such other relief as is just.






paragraphs 1 through 84 as if set forth herein at length.

86. The contract between Defendant wife and Hyperion indicates that, during

the year preceding the filing of the petition, the Defendant wife was in negotiation of a

book publishing deal for which she was to receive a $250,000 initial advance, a $30,000

additional advance, and royalties based on sales of her cookbook “Skinny Italian.”

87. Neither the Defendant wife’s cookbook nor the deal to publish it was

disclosed in any filings with the Court or in her testimony at the Meeting of Creditors.

88. The certificate of formation and Lakeland Bank statements for TG

Fabulicious, LLC indicate that, during the year preceding the filing of the petition, the

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Defendant wife owned and operated a business that had a bank account into which over

$100,000 was deposited in the six months preceding the petition.

89. Upon information and belief, money received during the year preceding

the petition by Defendant wife from several sources was transferred to the TG

Fabulicious, LLC Lakeland Bank account and commingled with other funds to the extent

that it is impossible to separate property of Defendant wife from property of TG

Fabulicious, LLC.

90. Neither the Defendant wife’s interest in TG Fabulicious, LLC, the

Lakeland Bank account of TG Fabulicious, LLC, nor the income derived from TG

Fabulicious, LLC were disclosed in any filings with the Court or in her testimony at the

Meeting of Creditors.

91. The Defendant husband testified at his Rule 2004 Examination that he is

the sole member of 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.

92. Upon information and belief, 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC had

income during the year preceding the filing of the Defendants’ petition.

93. Neither the Defendant husband’s interest in 1601 Maple Avenue

Associates, LLC nor any income derived from its operations was disclosed in any filings

with the Court or in his testimony at the Meeting of Creditors.

94. The Defendants knew of the existence of the cash and assets they failed to

disclose, yet they knowingly and fraudulently failed to disclose them on their Schedules

and amendments thereto, Statement of Financial Affairs and amendments thereto, and

testimony at the Meeting of Creditors.

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95. The Defendants intentionally did not disclose the existence of the

undisclosed assets in order to conceal their existence from creditors and the Case Trustee.

96. As a result, the Defendants transferred, removed, destroyed, mutilated, or

concealed, with intent to hinder, delay, or defraud creditors or the Case Trustee, property

of the Defendants within one year before the date of filing of the petition.

97. Wherefore, the UST respectfully requests that this Court enter judgment

denying the Defendants’ discharge under 11 U.S.C. § 727(a)(2)(A) and providing for

such other relief as is just.






paragraphs 1 through 97 as if set forth herein at length.

99. Since the petition was filed, the book publishing deal with Hyperion was

signed, the cookbook “Skinny Italian” was released, and, upon information and belief, the

initial $250,000 advance was paid to the Defendant wife.

100. In addition, the Lakeland Bank account statements produced by the

Defendants reveal that TG Fabulicious, LLC had total deposits of over $190,000 during

the first three months after the petition was filed.

101. Upon information and belief, the book “Skinny Italian,” the Hyperion

book deal, TG Fabulicious, LLC, and 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC are valuable

estate assets.

Document Page 15 of 19

102. The Defendants knew of the existence of these assets as of the petition

date, yet they knowingly and fraudulently failed to disclose them on their Schedules and

amendments thereto, Statement of Financial Affairs and amendments thereto, and

testimony at the Meeting of Creditors.

103. The Defendants intentionally did not disclose the existence of the

undisclosed assets in order to conceal their existence from creditors and the Case Trustee.

104. As a result, the Defendants transferred, removed, destroyed, mutilated, or

concealed, with intent to hinder, delay, or defraud creditors or the Case Trustee, valuable

property of the estate after the date of the filing of the petition.

105. Wherefore, the UST respectfully requests that this Court enter judgment

denying the Defendants’ discharge under 11 U.S.C. § 727(a)(2)(B) and providing for

such other relief as is just.






paragraphs 1 through 105 as if set forth herein at length.

107. The Defendants presented documents to the Case Trustee that purported to

be their 2006, 2007, and 2008 individual income tax returns.

108. However, upon information and belief, the Defendants have not filed

individual income tax returns for several years.

Document Page 16 of 19

109. In addition, the Defendants have not produced financial statements and

bank statements for 1601 Maple Avenue Associates, LLC.

110. Furthermore, the Lakeland Bank account documents provided to date

indicate that the Defendant wife commingles funds from several sources, making it

impossible to separate the Defendant wife’s financial activities from those of TG

Fabulicious, LLC.

111. As a result, the Defendants have concealed, destroyed, mutilated, falsified,

or failed to keep or preserve recorded information from which their financial condition or

business transactions might be ascertained.

112. Wherefore, the UST respectfully requests that this Court enter judgment

denying the Defendants’ discharge under 11 U.S.C. § 727(a)(3) and providing for such

other relief as is just.




paragraphs 1 through 112 as if set forth herein at length.

114. The Defendants’ Schedule F, as amended, reveals over $89,000 in credit

card debt.

115. Schedule B, as amended, disclosed only $1,000 in the Defendant

husband’s checking account, as well as household goods, furnishings, clothing, and

jewelry totaling only $24,550.

Document Page 17 of 19

116. The Statement of Financial Affairs, as amended, did not disclose any gifts,

losses, or transfers of assets during the year preceding the filing of the petition.

117. As a result, the Defendants have failed to explain satisfactorily why all of

the cash and assets obtained by the Defendants from their credit cards are not now

available to meet the Defendants’ liabilities.

118. In addition, upon information and belief, most of the $106,819.90

deposited into TG Fabulicious, LLC’s Lakeland Bank pre-petition was received by the

Defendant wife in her personal capacity, and was not derived from the sales of TG

Fabulicious merchandise.

119. The Defendants have not satisfactorily explained why the money received

by the Defendant wife under her contract with Bravo, through her operation of TG

Fabulicious, LLC, and other sources over the past several years is not available to meet

the Defendants’ liabilities.

120. Also, as of the petition date, the Defendant husband operated at least seven

businesses, one of which was a stucco and stone contractor and the rest of which owned

rental properties with paying retail and residential tenants.

121. The Defendant husband testified at his Rule 2004 Examination that he

withdrew funds from his businesses as needed.

122. The Defendant husband affirmed his signature on a 2008 document which

indicated that he received $54,269 in monthly income from his stucco and stone

contractor business.

Document Page 18 of 19

123. Upon information and belief, the operation of the Defendant husband’s

businesses generated considerable amounts of money over the past several years, some

portion of which was received by the Defendants.

124. The Defendants have not satisfactorily explained why the money

generated from the operation of the Defendant husband’s businesses is not available to

meet the Defendants’ liabilities.

125. Wherefore, the UST respectfully requests that this Court enter judgment

denying the Defendants’ discharge under 11 U.S.C. § 727(a)(5) and providing for such

other relief as is just.

Respectfully submitted,




By: /s/ Michael A. Artis

Michael A. Artis

Trial Attorney

/s/ Shining J. Hsu

Shining J. Hsu

Trial Attorney

/s/ Robert J. Schneider

Robert J. Schneider

Trial Attorney

Dated: September 2, 2010

Document Page 19 of 19

ISTRICT OF NEW JERSEYIInn tthhee maatttteerr ooff:: Caassee Noo..SUMMONS AND NOTICE OF PRETRIAL CONFERENCEYOU ARE SUMMONED and required to submit a motion or answer to the complaint which is attachedIF YOU FAIL TO RESPOND TO THIS SUMMONS, YOUR FAILURE WILL BE DEEMED TO BE YOUR______________________________________MEDIATION OF ALL DISPUTES IS ENCOURAGED AND IS AVAILABLE PURSUANT TO D.N.J. LBR 9019-2. THECase 09-39032-MS Doc 109-1 Filed 09/02/10 Entered 09/02/10 18:05:51 Desc


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to this summons to the clerk of the bankruptcy court within 30 days after the date of issuance of this

summons, except that the United States and its offices and agencies shall submit a motion or answer

to the complaint within 35 days.

Address of Clerk

At the same time, you must also serve a copy of the motion or answer upon the plaintiff’s attorney.

Name and Address of Plaintiff’s Attorney

If you make a motion, your time to answer is governed by Bankruptcy Rule 7012.

YOU ARE NOTIFIED that a pretrial conference of the proceeding commenced by the filing of the

complaint will be held at the following time and place.

Address Room


Date and Time



Clerk of the Bankruptcy Court

___________________________________ By: ______________________________________

Date Deputy Clerk




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  1. Adgirl says:

    Isn’t it interesting how Teresa and Jill use to be “the nice” ones?

    At least Jill hasn’t outright stolen from people like the Juicy’s – although I consider trying to get Alex and Simon dropped from the show, in trouble with his employer and other antics just as serious in that it could ruin their family financially.

    • sophie says:

      While Jill may not have ‘stolen’ from anyone, she’s certainly not above fraudulent behavior, i.e. falsely reviewing her book to improve it’s ratings.

    • jane says:

      Yes did you see Jill’s blog on bravo calling herself the “queen of accountability”
      what is she smoking? talk about calling the kettle black, she dumps on Danielle.
      Like she is better, she is the most phony BS biotch.. Teresa is garbage, Caroline better check out who she is calling her friends and who is garbage, at least Danielle did not lie to the government.

  2. Zipit Zarin says:

    Thanx Lynn!

  3. Savannah111 says:

    This website is awesome, I’ve spent almost all day reading past blogs as well as new I can’t believe all the excellent information… I’ve never came across another site like it..
    Thanks Lynn and everyone else too for the time y’all have taken to get all past and current information posted.. The posts are so humerous I;ve laughed all day long. I love it. 🙂

  4. boston02127 says:

    What is the diffrence between Preforeclosure & Foreclosure? Thx.

  5. Hey guys
    RHONJ on Today Show: http://realcityhousewife.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/the-rhonj-just-cant-stop-lying/

    And if you haven’t heard, the newest Real Housewife of NJ is Teresa’s sister-in-law and they hate each other. She is on twitter now: @Melissa_Gorga I ❤ her!

  6. Wall St Lady says:

    I really cleaned this “chapter” up & waited till the post wae quiet.

    Bravo wants hair pulling & BAD behavior among stolen ,grifted or $$ “sucked” to achieve viewers.

    Andy laughs at them all.
    His favorites have ratings power & NOTHING more. !

    Let me tell you why I think Dung ell will join the NYC cast.

    Also I will explain why IHATEJILLZARRIN.
    I was always sickened by ill’s season 1 into.
    ILL is in a rented limo & says she has so many society parties to choose between.
    (Notice she cabbed it the rest of the season.)

    I have watched NYC & PB society for 30 years, as a business woman, I am viewed as being too busy w/work to compete with the socially ambitious so I have not been excluded. Which just means if I want to buy a $1ooo ticket I can.( I will save seating arrangements for another “fight”)
    In my experience there r several types of players.

    Dina Merrill & deceased Doris Duke represent the TRUE socialites. Both r , were very nice & sought after like diamonds. They have social sec & access to them after events is limited.

    Next u have the Novo like Jill who pant like thirsty dogs to be invited. It is also hard to get on a committee to organize an event. Jill made/donated table cloths for events for years b4 she got to buy a $10 000 table next to the service entrance.

    Then there r those like Soya (who I don’t think cares about society only her $$) & Louman who marry older men who r part of society. These women r usually ignored for at least 5 years. Then the older women still fear they might b on the make for a richer husband (upgrade)so they don’t have them for lunch unless it is to tell them “u go near my $$ tree & I will take u down w/ a 20 year old nanny”. They sit at the right tables only when next to their sugar husband. But they look good.

    In the 70 s PB society was known to b run by several Madame Claude girls. They were call girls trained in Paris to be the best at hanky panky & as a matter of fact what the Mayflower Madam was trying to achieve. These women were picked out by their husbands knowing their pasts & most stayed married, had children & were very much society leaders. Most were nice & friendly to all.

    Then there were women with a past who were mean as hell to all women. I think they hoped to scare all other women so they would b fearful to cross them in any way !

    Next there is the ugly or fat rich heiress type who either is very funny or very shy. These types usually have an “in the closet husband” or a gigolo who is good looking.

    Then there r true celebrities who r welcome & r usually the nicest in the bunch. (They may b acting). They are probably someones guest but their ticket is always paid for as is every seat.

    I am going to throw up if I see ill in PB. She could be invited by the type that married up & is generally ignored & thinks ill would b a conversation piece.

    It really is a hornets nest.
    I was welcomed for several reasons but mostly because I can get corporate donations like getting Net Jet (owned by Warren Buffet) to donate $50 000 of air time & have a helaplane land at the do.
    My husband has Cary Grant looks so the women don’t see me as a treat. (Did I already say that ?)

    U might ask why would I subject myself to this sugar.?I have several wonderful friends who really live in PB who actually are committed to the cause & put their heart into the cause as chairman of a do. I always support & help my friends. I did co chair one event & it was like having another job. But besides helping the cause I can say I chaired a major PB do.

    Ok so now my final point.
    When Dungelle s comes around the desperate wanna bs like ill; she will run like hell not wanting to even breathe the same air for fear of association & social death.

    The greatest thing that could happen would b to force ill to b associated w/ Dungelle. That is as good as calling Dungella her peer.

    If Andy wants to stir the pot throwing Dungella in the NY pot will. Cause ill to”have a fit & fall in it” ”
    None of the other girls will like it either.

    Andy : “Let the games begin”

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      What is PB?

    • buffywood says:

      In your opinion, which is better Boca or Jupiter?

      • Had Enough! says:

        Boca is Jill-land. That’s where MOMMY lives. Both Boca and Jupiter might as well be in different states from Palm Beach. Boca (Raton), West Palm, and all the towns west of the causeway that links Palm Beach to the mainland are a world away from Palm Beach. Lots of money, mostly new money. A lot of these towns, including Boca, are basically this generation’s version of Miami Beach.

        I don’t know much about Jupiter.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      I think the foghorn’s (JZ) thirst for TV fame, her behavior, hanging with trashy D list reality show “celebs,” etc. has put to an end her aspirations to get entrance into real “society” circles. Before her money (well, Bawby’s) could only take her so far and after her RHONY debacle, no way. So now she has her “good friends” like not so classy Patti and Dina Lohan.

      I suspect Bravo’s done with Danielle. Too much of a loose cannon.

    • Zoey says:

      Very interesting WSL, thanks for the inside scoop. I’m glad to know there are some ‘real’ people in there such as you and your friends. I would hate to think that it’s all just sad, rich, back-stabbing people.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Interesting aside (for the young’uns who probably don’t know about this): when I was growing up, we would occasionally visit Duke Gardens in Hillsboro, NJ. Every time we drove through the gates, my parents would tell the story about Doris Duke having killed her interior designer, Eduardo Tirella, when he opened the gates. She hit the gas and the car crushed him. It was ruled accidental. It wasn’t until many years later that I learned it happened in Newport RI, and not at Duke Farms.

      At the end of her life, Duke was mostly in the news because she’d adopted an adult woman named Chandi Heffner. Duke said that Heffner was the reincarnation of her only son, who had died in his infancy. Later, Duke negated the adoption and re-wrote her will, but Heffer sued and received a $65 million settlement.

      And Duke, by the way, is as in Duke University and Duke Energy, as in American Tobacco.

      • Me too!–what?? I thought it happened right in Hillsborough?
        I have a lot of Doris Duke stories too!
        I actually bought a teeny-tiny piece of her estate at a tax-sale but I lost the piece of paper and I’ve been looking for it for years.

  7. Wall St Lady says:

    I am confused but sure there r 2 new lynn blogs. Meet me on the OTHER new bolg

  8. oopsy says:

    Ooooh I am so mad at T and Juicy! I hope they don’t get away with sticking it to all the average hard working people they owe money to. Can you imagine doing, say, the railings in that mcmansion and being told FU! You don’t get paid for all that time, work, or reimbursed for supplies. It isn’t just banks and credit card companies they owe money to. It is every day people. I don’t know many people who can shrug off a hit like that. I have a child with serious health issues and expenses and I manage to live with-in a budget. We haven’t asked for a ‘fresh start’. We ought to have a debtor’s prison like England did. There is your ‘fresh Start’. I am pissed about all of this.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Me too. I have paid every dime of taxes I owe on time, in full. It would never occur to me to not pay, much less to not even file.

      Everyone gripes about taxes, but the reality is that the U.S. has the lowest tax rates of any country, especially other first world countries. I may not like specific things that the taxes are used for, but overall I am of the belief that those taxes are paying for the police, fire and emergency, roads, schools (including the state universities), infrastructure such as water delivery and flood control, public transportation, our armed services, helping to take care of the less fortunate among us, supporting the scientific research that improves our lives every day (who do you think paid for the development of packet switching, which is the way the internet works), public lands and so much more. It drives me bonkers when I see people screaming about lower taxes. I want to ask them what services they are willing to give up. If they don’t want to pay taxes, then stay out of the national parks, don’t drink or bathe in water from the public water supply, don’t apply for any federal benefits, don’t send your kids to public schools, and stay the hell off the roads that MY TAX DOLLARS paid for! Do they want to live like Californians, where all state services shut down three days a month, where the state is virtually bankrupt, can’t pay its employees, parks are closed, etc. Yes, the recession precipitated this mess, but it was primed to happen because of California laws restricting property taxs (Prop 13). When the economy was hot, California didn’t need to rely on property taxes, but when the recession hit, the state found itself without enough funding to keep the lights on.

      Rant over. Now to the point…

      When grifters like the Giudices don’t pay their taxes, we are hurt in two ways. First, someone else has to pick up their share. Second, the government has less funding to pay for all those services. And I am guessing that they didn’t pay any of the taxes associated with their businesses, including federal and state withholding for their employees, unemployment insurance taxes, and worker’s comp insurance.

      Someone over on Reality Tea asked why we are all so incensed by the activities of M/M Gorilla. He wanted to know who the Gorillas are hurting and how they hurt us. This is the answer. They are hurting all of us who pay our fair share and then have to pick up the slack for irresponsible people like the Gorillas.

  9. Wall St Lady says:

    Jupiter hands down. Its much more undeveloped & has a palmy feeling. I think Bocca which means Big Rat is more like a strip mall.w/one store after another. They r pretty store & restaurants. The homes are mostly inland in gated communities built on a man man made lake & a golf course. PB as well as jupiter are small communities built around the ocean & the intercostal waterway. Me I would just as well b back in NYC if I can’t see or smell the water. The best is if I can hear it too !

    • ShyAsrai says:

      boca = mouth
      raton = rat

      Rat’s Mouth, Florida! LOL

    • LynnNChicago says:

      WSL, thanks for the fascinating info, NYC society really is a whole world of its own, isn’t it?

      Just knowing who you can and can’t associate with is a full time job! LOL

    • quincyillinois says:

      In the movie “Marley and Me,” Boca was portrayed as a rich haven.

      I know someone who lives in West Palm Beach. I think that is a nice area, but there are ordinary parts where normal people live.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I thought I read somewhere that West Palm Beach was really run down but was revitalized when Gianni Versace moved into the neighborhood.

    • alicia says:

      Actually Jupiter Island is as elegant as Palm Beach, it just does not have any commercial business on the island. I actually prefer Jupiter Island as it has a more tropical feel. You can’t see many of the estates from AIA because the landscaping is so lush. If you are younger ( under 50) Palm Beach is kind of boring.

  10. Wall St Lady says:

    Real city House Wives ? How in the H did I get there ? Isn’t the blog ubove here the same as the last blog ?

    • vilzvet says:

      Yes it is but Realcityhousewife ALSO has a blog, that is what you linked to earlier…

      Wall St Lady says:
      September 4, 2010 at 7:43 pm

      Did u know the vett in vilvett is for a 6? Vet ?
      Reply: Brought this over from the previous blog to answer your question…the ‘Vette I used to have was not from the 60s, I wish! It was an ’81…

  11. Wall St Lady says:

    Oh so I went to our Realhousewife ‘s blog. Now I get it. Hi Realhousewife ! Thanks for having me !

  12. Wall St Lady says:

    Drum Roll !

    Squirrels posted
    Chapter 5

  13. Maxine49 says:

    Yes, there is a god…and his wrath shall rain down on those lying, thieving, skeeving Giudices! Hey Caroline, you clown…,how cute is Teresa now!

    If the trustee succeeds in having the bankruptcy dismissed then if the Giudices don;t pay the morgtage, the house will be foreclosed upon. Also, the judgments that the creditors have won against them will be enforceable and the Giudices assets will be seaized and sold to satisfy the judgments, as well as liens placed against the house. Ain’t payback a bitch! Hey, Teresa, honey…is bitch better now, bitch?!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      are you curious as to where they might get the money to pay their mortgage? and would they be allowed to pay that before their other creditors are paid? but most of all, won’t it be interesting to see how Teresa can maintain any lifestyle when all her wages are garnished for years to come! ain’t life a honey? no? life is a bitch Teresa and we all have to pay to play!

  14. Wall St Lady says:

    Buffywood why r u called that ?

    • buffywood says:

      I got the nickname Buffy when in college. I went to Old Dominion in Virginia. I was from the North East, spoke a mile a minute, was blonde, surfed, preppy, and went there to play lacrosse. Once night my friend said “Damn you are a Buffy” and the name stuck. My last name is Wood. Most people I know socially think Buffy Wood is my real name.

      I was curious on your views on Florida. My family and I are definitely Jupiter people. I don’t like the pretentiousness of Boca. When you were talking about the suits to wear to work I was wearing my “Booze is the Duct Tape of Life” t-shirt; which is typical work attire for me. Dressing up usually means my white sneakers that I don’t wear cutting the grass. We are thinking about officially moving to Jupiter next summer.

      • Blue Sky says:

        Buffy, where do you work? I love that you can wear that t-shirt while you work! Suspect you might be working from home on a computer…so nobody sees you.

        • buffywood says:

          Hi Blue Sky, yes I work from home. My company is based in Boston, I travel forh work (bos, wdc, mia, sfo, and nyc) but not as much as I used to. My latest laptop has a video camera and the wanted me to use it for video conferencing. That is so not gonna happen.

  15. Zoey says:

    Pic on Twitter of Alex. I think she looks great. I like her hair like this, and not teased to high heaven.

  16. Wall St Lady says:

    Boston2 found it


    This is about a “new” diet.
    Input please !

    • Blue Sky says:

      This is just garbage. There is no way you can lose 12 pounds in 1 month, without reducing the calories and increasing the exercise! Don’t believe any of this crappola. Eat a healthy diet, and get at least 1 hour (or more) hours of exercise a day. That could be walking, vacuuming, scrubbing whatever. Get a tread mill or bike and get on that while watching TV. Eat lots of veggies, some fruit, low-fat protein and not more than the equivalent of 2 slices of whole grain bread a day. Take vitamins. Substitute oatmeal or other whole grains, but low carb works. No sugar! You will lose weight & feel better. I found that if I eat sugar, the next day I can barely get out of bed, so eating no sugar alone will give you more energy. And so will exercise – doesn’t have to be strenuous. Try yoga, but just get moving. Working out with weights will do wonders too. Squats, lunges, the works, get a good trainer. They are worth the money!

      • quincyillinois says:

        I did everything that you suggested and the result was size 8, toned muscles, 21% body fat and I have to buy new walking shoes because my old ones are worn out.

        • Had Enough! says:

          I did it too. At least a half dozen times. I get so angry with myself because each time I eventually put it back on (though unlike some, I don’t put on more). I love being healthy and fit and feeling good and I love looking good, and yet…

          • quincyillinois says:

            I think I have figured it out now. If the food item has no nutritional value or doesn’t taste good, I don’t eat it.

            I love breakfast and lunch. Dinner is light…always. Your body needs some protein for muscle and organ renewal, but not carbs so dinner should always be light.

            You have to change the exercise routine too. Walk different distances, then take a break from walking and climb the stairs with weights.

            I clean my 5200 sq ft house and my mom’s 2400 ft home. I do it quickly and with music. My 79 year old mom, swings her rear to musice while washing her kitchen counters. We are groovy. LOL

            • Sardonica says:

              It seems I may not have a large enough house or enough money to sink myself into the luxury of a RHW bubblebath of blogfun? However, I am thin because I am a vegetarian and work out. I do not, nor have I ever partaken of even 1 Gummy Bear.

    • This is the Kelly Killoren Bensimon diet. The cleanse diet!

      When she gave Sonya that “gift” I almost fell off the bed laughing. A colon cleaning is not a gift!!!

    • boston02127 says:

      @WSW–Good morning. Sorry I logged off last night. I don’t know too much about this. I wouldn’t try it thou.

  17. Zipit Zarin says:

    Nuff said.

  18. Wall St Lady says:

    I thought It was attatched to a crediable post but figured it was fake.
    When I told a friend I was considering spending a wad of $$$ on a spa & she said for 1/2 the amount she would lock me in my room for a week w/a supply of water & health bars !

    • Blue Sky says:

      I wish sometimes I could just get fed once a day, work in the fields or something strenuous, and get the weight off. Last year I worked really hard, had a trainer and kept a food diary, and after about 6 months I lost 40 pounds. Kept it off for awhile, but as soon as I started slacking off the exercise and eating more, it started to creep back! So I’m back at it. Maybe that’s why I get a little cranky, but really exercise and diet work. Use the diabetic diet, or weight watchers…and keep track of what you eat. It works! I’m 53 and it is harder than when I was younger, but keep at it. Today I did 45 minutes of precor, then 40 minutes on the treadmill, and a half hour of sit-ups, weights, squats, and lunges. I will sleep good tonight!

      • quincyillinois says:

        I am your clone. I think it’s aging. When we were young, it was much easier.

      • Sardonica says:

        Become a veghead and walk 25 minutes a day. Whatever you weigh will be healthy weight and will also be what you are supposed to weigh. Enjoy life or you may end up looking like most of the RHW ‘wimmin’. Live for you!

        • Snarkella says:

          I just came back from vacation and told a friend I gained 2.5 pounds. He replied, “Look at it this way. You gained 2.5 pounds of happiness.” He’s right. I had a great time and enjoyed a lot of good meals. I did gain 2.5 pounds of happiness.

  19. Wall St Lady says:

    How do I get back to realcityhousewives

  20. deehub says:

    My grandmother used to say “Fools names and fools faces, always seen in public places.”

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  22. Wall St Lady says:

    Thanks I finally went thru google. The colored name thing is cool. I learn something every day here!

  23. Wall St Lady says:

    Lynn u must feel like a Mama rabbit with all the bunny blogs u have birthed. Bless u.
    I remember when I didn’t understand what a blog was. Regardless the founder/editor of MAR Hedge retired & started : Naked Shorts which I read daily. He made fun of everybody on the St. & even me several times. He usually had a lead over the top writers at WSJ & Barons accused the SEC on Madoff long before it was popular. He also defended me when I got criticized. He could do all this because he was a blog & not accountable to anyone but his intelligent opinions.
    I met him 2xs. The last time he came to visit me at my office I gave him a hug. He was 6’2″ & from New Zealand.
    And just like that in April 08 at 55 he dropped dead unexpectedly. I miss him often. He was the only person who ever was as funny about Wall St as brilliant. Sadly he didn’t have any “bunny s” & it is my loss.
    Long sad way of saying congratulations Lynn & all the bunny s ! 🙂

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thank you WSL! I was taught by an old boss long ago that it is always best to encourage your employees, teach them everything you can and aspire for them to someday have your job and that’s what makes for a good boss. I never forgot that lesson and it’s been very successful for me in business.

      However, I can’t take credit for all of these people but if I am even a little bit responsible for any of these great people starting blogs, then I’m really proud of them!

      • Snarkella says:

        Bravo Lynn! I was lucky enough to have a couple of bosses like that also and I’ve never forgotten them. Linda Proper and Diane Murphy, wherever you are, Bravo to you both!

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          That’s funny Lynn! I have always said that when I have trained my team, and given them enough information, and empowered them to make decisions to the point where I become the most expendable person in my store, then I know I have done my job.

  24. Wall St Lady says:

    Jenni I have been looking for u 4 days. How r u doing ?
    My dad used to say
    “Don’t argue w/a fool”.

  25. Wall St Lady says:

    Buffy I thought ur name was a spoof of Hollywood. Buffy Wood is too cute to b real ,lucky u.
    My name has 8 Es in it & rhymes when u say it so that’s kinda cool too. Yea Mom !

  26. Wall St Lady says:

    Lynn u had a very wise boss but u were even wiser to heed & practice that advice past ur job. What an inspiration. I wish people on wall St. Were trained by u. I feel lucky to have all my “body parts” still attached !

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    link /

  28. Agatha Cranky says:

    I’ve been reading here from the beginning and I look forward to all your delicious information, observations, and insightful analysis of these crazy Bravalcoholics. I just saw the movie Chicago again and the idea of celebrity and scandal is so appropriate to how these media hungry people operate. It’s not about shame or embarrassment; it’s attention, look at me, one-up man ship, and of course greed.
    I don’t know if this observation has ever been mentioned here, but remember when Kelly described her actions on St. Johns as a “breakthrough” not a “breakdown”? Well a few weeks before that comment, Jim Carrey and his lady had split and he was tweeting crazy stuff and they thought he was having a “breakdown” and he said that it was a…. (drum roll) a “breakthrough” We all know our gal Kelly prides herself on being a sponge of modern culture and a full time tweeter, so I will safely assume she got her spin from Mr. Carrey’s tweets.
    Thank you all for countless hours of pure entertainment.

  29. Wall St Lady says:


    Teresa’s book & some references to the Lynn blog ‘s
    Discovery talents

    • JazzNightOut says:

      buffywood got a ‘thank you for the tip.’

      • buffywood says:

        I posted there that the credit should go to Lynn and Had Enough. I just passed along the info.

        • The link text in my post very clearly says the document was posted on ‘I Hate Jill Zarin,’ the title of this blog and links to the PDF file hosted on the site. I thanked Buffy for the tip because she was the one who gave me the heads up on the file being here. It’s how I operate. It sounds like you think I’m not giving Lynn credit, when in fact, I attributed the source correctly.

          • buffywood says:

            Oh no, I think the whole thing is really cool!!! Great Job. Thanks. I really just wanted to throw Had Enough into the mix as she was the original one who found the document.

  30. quincyillinois says:

    I saw something in a Santa Rosa, Ca, that was so Bravo housewives. There was a mannequin in a Shopping mall dressed in a Sari with shockingly G cups and bleached blond hair. It looked like the women from OC. I kid you not.

  31. boston02127 says:

    Good morning. 🙂

    Jacqueline’s tweets from last night. (I put them in order)

    Just got a strange phone from some girl on the phone claiming 2b from Mississippi wanting 2 give me info about D. Curious but WTF? Enough!

    She just called back again 2ce after Chris yelled @ her &hung up the phone. Eeks!Curious@1st, NOW not interested. It’s 3:00 AM! Calling police.

    Number is coming up by the name of Jennifer Taylor. She’s called 4x now! Said she’s telling me she thinks we are in Danger & being followed. ?

    It’s strange bc she keeps saying that she wants me 2call her back. Y? NOT happening. Who does that? Told her 2call police w/her info, Not us.

    We called the police & we also recorded the phone calls. Going back to bed now, goodnight!

    I like to document things and this is one way of doing that. Goodnight.

    *She stated that she was going “back” to bed, I wonder why she would get up in the first place to tweet this? Odd.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Maybe the police told her to document the calls, but on Twitter? Someone is obsessed w/Twitter

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      oh fer chrissakes!

      Just another way to talk about Danielle, now there are imaginary “fans” who somehow obtain her phone number to warn her about Danielle coming after her.

      I’m not buying it- just another way to create drama around…drum roll… Danielle.

      meanwhile Danielle is MIA and could probably care less. I know I don’t.


    • Snarkella says:

      How would some random person get her phone number in the first place? That would freak me out. And if some random person called me in the middle of the night to tell me I was in danger, I certainly wouldn’t put it on twitter. That’s just adding fuel to the fire. She is too caught up in being a reality personality. I guess that’s where Ashley gets it from. Pathetic.

      • The Ghost of Layne Staley says:

        I’m thinking Jacqueline made up the whole thing. She has plenty of motive to do that, after all.

        (Hey, LynnNChicago, finally thought to look for your blog after seeing your comments elsewhere forever.)

        • babelony says:

          Welcome ghost of Layne Staley. Loved Alice in Chains.

        • babelony says:

          Oh, and I agree with you about Jacqueline. Something about this leads me to point the finget at her. I can’t explain it though.

          • cdnfillie58 says:

            I called her on it on twitter…told her believed she was making it up cause she can’t seem to let D go and since i know she blocks people for less than what i said, I also told her she didn’t need to block me as I was gonna block her first.. ;p

  32. quincyillinois says:

    Is the fame worth it, Jaqueline?

    • Snarkella says:

      She obviously loves every second of it. For the life of me I can’t figure out why. So many people think she and her daughter are a pair of fools. I’d be hanging my head in shame and waiting for everyone to forget about me. But they seem to relish the attention good or bad.

  33. aliand says:

    This morning on CBS’s “Sunday Morning” they are airing a segment on reality tv. They opened the promo with the Orange County Housewives. It was said that the casting directors and producers know that we the audience have a “reptilian brain”…

    should be interesting!

  34. boston02127 says:

    @CarolineManzo will you be on wendy williams next week
    @KIL3Y MOnday!!!

  35. buffywood says:

    Good morning everyone! Lynn should be getting a new record # of hits on this story. I did do my fair share of spreading the wealth of knowledge with this link.

    My T-shirt today says:

    Just thought I’d share…

    • OneMoreinBoston says:


    • lillybee says:

      Can I get one, please.

    • buffywood says:

      I want to thank everyone for accepting my apology and showing me the error of my ways. I grew up with the attitude that a person’s specific religion has no meaning at all. Having faith in anything that gives people strength, comfort, and makes them feel good should be envied. As a child I went to almost every type of religious services (when I was 12 I wanted to convert to be a Quaker). The idea of ridiculing someone’s religion is just something that would never have crossed my mind. Political banter on the other hand ran rampant in my house. I only saw the saying through my eyes and didn’t consider how it would be viewed through others.

      This has been bothering me all day and I felt I needed to say sorry again to anyone I may have offended.

    • buffywood says:

      Serious? It is a joke T-shirt. You know… Roman? Gladiators?

      Lynn, I am sorry if this is found to be offensive to anyone and please delete the post.

      • ShyAsrai says:

        i don’t understand how anything like your t-shirt’s text could be considered a joke or acceptable in any way.

        try substituting any number of groups for ‘Christians’ or “right wing” and see how that grabs you.

        here are some equally offensive suggestions just so you can see what i mean:

        So many Muslims
        So few Crusaders

        So many Blacks
        So few Lynchers

        So many Jews
        So few Ovens

        So many Gays
        So few Homophobic killers

        • buffywood says:

          Wow you put a lot of thought into your reply. I’ve asked Lynn to delete the post and I said I was sorry.

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            I am a Christian and Right Wing. I accept your apology. Thank you for considering. 😀

          • flippy says:

            No worries Buffy. I’m a left wing Christian and I took no offense. I just enjoy the fact of you picking out your t-shirt for the day and going to work at your computer. I’ll think about you Tuesday while I’m standing in front of the closet trying to decide what to wear to work.

          • ShyAsrai says:

            actually, my reply took very little thought because growing up, one of the main themes in my family “do unto others” and always, always there was the question: “how would YOU like it if so-and-so said/did that to YOU?”. thinking of several equally offensive comparable group bashings as examples was automatic.

            but yes, you did apologize and i appreciate that and I SHOULD HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED YOUR APOLOGY, for sure.

        • Snarkella says:

          Well Buffywood’s t-shirt doesn’t just say Christians it says Right Wing Christians. I understand that the shirt is offensive to a lot of people, but Right Wing Christians can sometimes be offensive to a lot of people. Opinions hurt but hearing opposing opinions keep us awake to what the rest of the world is thinking. With that said, it’s probably best to leave religion out of a blog about Reality Housewives.

          • buffywood says:

            The term is really “political” and not “religious” and I got it at a political event (is red white and blue and has a flag on it). Again, I am so sorry that I posted this and I mean no offense to anyone. Not that it matters but I am a Christian (Catholic). I view the term the same as I view the term “Tea Party”. I am so sorry if others viewed it as anything other than Political Satire. I tried to edit it myself but I cannot do that.

            • JazzNightOut says:

              Buffy, did you see upthread that Bravogossip.com gave you a ‘thank you for the tip’ on the Giudice story?

    • kats2 says:

      @Buffy regarding your comment – No big deal and no offense taken at all, but how nice of you to apologize.

      @Winston – The word “Hate” is used in the blog title as tongue and cheek humor towards the HW’s. IMHO what is offensive is that out of the thousands and thousands of comments posted here by some really smart and funny people, you read this one random comment by Buffy and jumped to a vile and very wrong conclusion about this whole site. I don’t even see where you get “hate” from what Buffy posted. Did you perhaps come to the site looking for a problem?

      If you are really unable to handle different random varying opinions, perhaps you should just visit sites that you already know will coddle to your needs and opinions. However, if you watch the HW’s show and want a great place to join in on the dialogue, snark and can handle different opinions – I look forward to reading your comments.

      • Snarkella says:

        You always say it so well kats2.

      • Sardonica says:

        Well said. It was offensive but to read an apology from a blogger is so unusal it more than made up for the post. I like that Buffywood! ( I think until she puts up the Nazi post : ) )

        • anniieee says:

          Thanks for the apology, Buffy. Each of us is different, based on life experiences and circumstances. So we have different political views, religious views and viewpoints. My views come from years of being an Army brat and then an Army Wife. Making fun of one group or another is not what we should be doing…we all need to come together for the good of everything and everyone. (A very lofty goal.) We can agree to disagree (like this blog) without being offensive. Again, thanks for the apology.

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          Are you of German Ancestry too?

  36. aliand says:

    The Huffington Post just posted popeaters story about Teresa’s “ommissions” in her bankruptcy filing.

  37. aliand says:

    I thought that went without saying. The popeater story links back to this blog. the huffington post links to popeaters site

  38. Olivia says:

    With what appears to be the demise of shows like “American Idol” heading for the last round up, the continuation of the idiocy that is the “Housewives” franchise cannot be far behind. The excessive use of the same formula featuring groups of fame crazy women willing to “act” against this backdrop cannot be sustained for much longer. The phony set ups that brought us the Guidice debacle, IMHO, cannot be ignored by the audience particularly when considering the magnitude of the fraud involved.

    Bravo featured this bimbo spending away, living in luxury, ordering goods she could not possibly afford, and allowed to comment on the behaviors of her fellow castmates as if she were above reproach. And all the while at least nominally aware of her financial problems that finds her 11 million dollars in debt. They labeled her a “star” when it is clear she is nothing more than a common thief as she spread her “bogus” excuses all over the dial. And if that weren’t troubling enough, they then advertised the violence of this woman through promos and previews that was designed to take the audience much deeper into her chilling behavior and called this “entertainment”.

    Where do they go from here? How do they “top” the previous season of the most odious behavior in the NJ franchise? Benign vignettes of casual lunches or attendance at fashion shows just won’t seal the deal after the outrageous misbehavior ever presented as “reality” has pushed the envelope of decency to lower levels. A sneak peek at an upcoming episode of the BH wives shows two women going for each other’s throats in the back of a limousine. Have we now passed the limit of threats and delving right into actual assaults in a bid to hold audience interest? It is then that the question becomes what kind of an audience are they targeting that looks forward to this type of programming?

    My interpretation is that it is only through the collaboration of both the network and the cast members that have acted in concert to deceive the public in the presentations these franchises bring to the small screen. By way of calling themselves “celebrities” or “stars” they have joined forces with Bravo in the ratings race in this soulless venture. All these women have agreed to the portrayal that Bravo insists upon as their template to ensure their place on these shows.

    Both sides are in agreement to do just about anything it takes to make a buck and it is getting old by any standard. Slander and physical assault should never be the staple by which we are asked to believe is “reality” under any circumstances. The women who bargain to gain entre onto shows of this nature are as equally to blame as the network who pitch this crap.

  39. ilovelynn says:

    real city housewife: love, love, love your recaps! add me to your growing fan base!

    thanks lynn, for allowing all these talented people to link onto your blog!

  40. Had Enough! says:

    Someone had better alert Australia. A loudmouth with red hair is about to invade. Well, the Aussies are not shy about putting people in their place. Australia may be her Waterloo.

  41. Wall St Lady says:

    How could anyone not love word from Buffy. I am so impressed with the gracious way this “buff up” was handled. 5 stars ladies !

  42. WindyCityWondering says:

    This week will be filled with stories of the UST suit and Teresa doing her back peddling on the bankruptsy. She is really getting it from all sides – husband’s affair, feud with the SIL, her continued spending of money that should not be spent. Fame has it’s price and it is always higher when you have no talent! She really needs to remove herself from the spotlight but IMO she can’t and we will see every last detail of her total fall from grace.

    • Snarkella says:

      Well she used Jill’s fav expression in her Bravo blog — Go Big or Go Home — so apparently she’s prepared to take the same direct route to the bottom of the barrel.

    • Olivia says:

      But she has already been signed for Season 3 even before the end of Season 2. Bravo is certainly aware of her troubles with the feds and local authorities concerning her financial problems yet they saw fit to offer her another season regardless.

      Which only goes to show that if she is willing to go along with this exposure this is enough to satisfy her need to be called a “star” and their need to gin up the ratings.

      Quid. Pro. Quo.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        “Bravo is certainly aware of her troubles with the feds and local authorities concerning her financial problems yet they saw fit to offer her another season regardless.”

        I think Bravo more than ‘saw fit’ to offer her another season; I think they are beside themselves that they can film it all.

        • Char212 says:

          That’s just what I was going to say Jazz. Bravo is doing the happy dance and can’t wait to film every second of T & J’s sordid life. The sad thing is…nobody is thinking about the children.

    • dumberries says:

      Wondering if the Gs are remaining on the show to stay in plain sight. Juicy is in major trouble with both sides of the law, imo. It goes way beyond the bankruptcy fraud. He probably pissed off the wrong people and that’s why G&G Stucco stopped getting business, he forged the partners signature, and the money is only “trickling” in these days. The only reason these 2 grifters would call attention to their finances and file for bankruptcy is if someone (other than dept stores and bankers) is pursuing them for money and they want to prove that they just don’t have it, imo. I can’t see them ever filing legal papers unless they were absolutely desperate.

      There were a few commenters, following his Feb car accident, that suggested Juicy got liquored up and intentionally crashed his car. I don’t believe that’s likely. It’s more likely he was simply drunk and driving reckless again. But, it’s also possible that he was out carousing and drinking, and someone in another vehicle “encouraged” him to veer off the road into the pole and the trees. I don’t believe anyone hits the gas in that situation as he made a point of claiming on camera, even if you’re yawning or you’re drunk. He didn’t slow down because he couldn’t. He didn’t call his family or run to his own house right afterwards. He never called the police; someone else called later.

      This is just complete speculation; it could be that the Gs really are just ignorant, fame hungry, drunk driving con artists that think they’ll get away with it and everyone will love them. But, that doesn’t explain how these 2 were able to accumulate so much cash/credit in the first place. There is no way Joe has the business acumen to legitimately build a multi-million dollar enterprise – not possible. I don’t think they were getting huge monthly donations from his parents either. Things aren’t adding up. I suspect Teresa and the kids will be greatly affected when the house of cards completely crumbles, but it is Joe who will be behind bars or will disappear before it gets to that point.

      Thanks for allowing me to speculate; sorry it’s such a long post. Been really sick and stuck in bed since Friday afternoon – maybe just too much time on my hands!

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        hmmm… all very good points.

        Also, I’ve been…worried? (for lack of a better word)…about Joe’s appearance in this season. Frankly, he looks like shit. haunted…stressed out.

        I thought it was the bankruptcy, and then I thought it was Tara, then I thought it was Tara’s family (you know she of the crazy scilian father fame) He’s drinking way too much, eating way too much, and is snapping at his wife and kids constantly.

        The way he flipped out at the supposed overcharge by the hotel in Italy, just has a short fuse lately.

      • The Ghost of Layne Staley says:

        My impression is that his $10,000/month in “family contributions” are not coming from his parents as he claims, but rather from a different kind of Family.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        hope you are feeling better! I have to agree that the accident was weird – not normal in cause or in how Joe handled himself afterwards. As for keeping in the public eye may afford them some protection from other sources of income and/or repayment. SO maybe the accident was a message….either way these thieves are about at the end of their “Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride!”…..

        • not_now_dear says:

          can someone point me to a link or blog about “Tara” and Joe? I missed that rumor. Traveling too much on business these days, but during the regular season of RHNY I alwasy checked out Lynn’s blogs. So entertaining, and spot on. I just love the posters here – they have that sarcastic sense of humor that I admire so much in people 😉

          • boston02127 says:

            @ not_now_dear –The last 2 blogs are filled with posts about Joe & Tara. To save you some time thou I’ll quickly fill you in. It was all b/s. No Tara. No affair. The new news was, Teresa’s brothers wife that T can’t stand will be the new housewife next season. Her name is Melissa Gorga.

  43. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi Snarkella. I am in NC & now & call myself Snarkella. I have crowned my best friend Snarkette

  44. Sardonica says:

    In a pathetic attempt to carve out more time for these blogs I just found a wonderful porn site to occupy my husband on his ‘puter while I live in RHWland on this ‘puter. Hopefully not much will be required from me when I log off.

    • Had Enough! says:


      I just hope my husband doesn’t see it and get ideas!

    • kats2 says:

      @Sardonica – my new BFF this is the funniest thing I’ve read here. Kudooz! Good luck with hubby don’t forget to stretch before your um. . . workout 😉

    • dumberries says:

      Hysterical! Sneaky and effective. Just make sure Danielle isn’t a featured artist on the porn site – he might only stay glued for a few minutes…

  45. Had Enough! says:

    Hey, where is Cusi?

  46. Olivia says:

    I don’t think it is a bad idea to question the motives and emotional stability of these women willing to fight their way onto these shows that feature them in the worst possible way.

    Jill Zarin has been labeled the “most hated housewife” (so far but the competition is just warming up!) yet she has been seen campaigning to return. Kelly has been labeled the “craziest” of the housewives (again, the competition is heating up in that arena) yet she has spent the better part of the summer angling for another season. Even the Salahi’s are waging a campaign to ensure another shot at this stuff while fighting off the bill collectors and an unfriendly press. Teresa has both her financial and personal life battered all over the internet yet she is seen pushing to stay active.

    They are all suffering from some form of mental illness with elements of masochism.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Bethenny said that one needs to know when to leave the party; I think she has done the best thing for herself and her family in choosing to leave RH.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        ETA, she is the reason I loved RHONYC in the first place.

      • Olivia says:

        Would she have left if Bravo had not handed her her own series?
        Who knows.

        • kats2 says:

          no, she still needs fame like the rest of them,

        • Char212 says:

          Probably not as she was trying to build her brand and that was a perfect opportunity to do it. However, she’s the only one who came across as close to what most of us are like then the other HW’s did and that’s why we related to her the most. I think with Bethenny what you see is what you get but the other wives are always trying to be something they aren’t and that’s their downfall. People can see fake a mile away.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        I’m still hoping for a formal announcement that her part-time appearances HAVE to be sans Foghorn.

        • Had Enough! says:

          I actually don’t mind if she is in scenes with Foghorn. She is about the only person who can make Jill realize that the world does not revolve around her. Just by reminding Jill that she’s closed that door and walked away, and is better off for it. But for her sake, I hope she doesn’t have to. She’s so happy. Why encounter that crap if she doesn’t have to?

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            I agree it would be great if she did but after Foghorn tried to get people to not film with HER it would be such a fab comeuppance.

        • Olivia says:

          As long as there is a camera available she would even be happy shown as a “crowd extra” if it meant face time for her.

          The overriding element in these women, no matter which one appears “favorable”, is their need to be seen as a celebrity in whatever venue possible.

          Devoid of talent they rely on these shows to offer the validation that they are seen as “somebody” and the cost to do so is negligible.

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            i.e. her taking the pregnancy test showing her butt on the toilet…peeing in a bucket

          • JazzNightOut says:

            I think for B. the cost became more than negligible in regard to RH. I may be very naive (sp?) but I think B. is more a ‘communicator’ than a talentless ‘star.’ I think she believes she has something to say; maybe not, but I am still in her corner. I will, however, admit when she has gone too far.

            • Zipit Zarin says:

              Ditto. I’d stay up late to watch her if she had a talk show to compete with Chelsea Handler. I used to watch Chelsea in Girls Behaving Badly..that was hilarious. For some reason I don’t enjoy her talk show. Bethenny would do it much better.

            • Olivia says:

              She may have a little bit more to offer by way of her brand but let’s not overlook that she is indeed a very driven and ambitious “performer” as well.

              You don’t agree to filming a wedding, a birth, and a move to a new apartment all while being pregnant without expecting a bigger reward as a result.

              While we wish to believe she is “more like us” it is safe to assume that she may not be.

              • JazzNightOut says:

                I agree; I wouldn’t do any of those things. I am an introvert. I am, however, glad B. does; I love to laugh and she makes me laugh, a lot!

              • Char212 says:

                I’m sure Bethenny was hoping and expecting to get a reward (which is why she joined the show in the first place). But I also think that a lot of us wouldn’t mind having the fame and the money that goes with it, just not the notoriety that also goes with it. I for one wouldn’t pee in a bucket on national TV but the fact the she’s so uninhibited is what keeps us watching. We watch just to see what she’ll do next. I could totally be BFF’s with her 🙂

      • golfnut says:

        Have you noticed how Bethenny’s show has not been re-run over & over like so many? You would think that with such a short season they would marathon it over a weekend or something to lighten up the dark fare they are delivering during the week with all the NJ & DC repeats. I keep checking for it on Bravo “cuz I don’t watch the others, just read about them here.”
        Silly me, I didn’t watch the shows cuz I didn’t want to get addicted so I read about them here and now I’m addicted to reading about them. You all are more fun to read than those shows would be to watch. Darn you all….
        Bravo should make a new WWHL after the episodes with you all discussing and disecting at a round table with all your most excellent findings on a big screen. I’d watch that… but no… instead I sit here reading and laughing and getting nothing done.
        Stop being so entertaining so I can get some chores done why don’t cha. 😉

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Bethenny is a business oriented woman – the show was a means to an end – getting her brand infront of a national audience. BGM was a perfect marketing storm – milestone moments delivered with the personality already known to many through RHONY. She knows when to leave which is the key to her success and she knows how to make business networking work for her. IMO her goal was always to launch her own brands and find her security (financial, professional and personal) not to be a star of a reality show.

        • Char212 says:

          I agree Windy. Her whole purpose was to get her business up and running. That’s the difference between her and the other HW’s. The other wives agreed to be on the show hoping they would become famous. What they didn’t count on was what they became famous for.

  47. Wall St Lady says:

    Olivia. Where is the “Gong Show” when we need it ?

  48. Olivia says:

    Would any of these women be offered book deals, product endorsements, invitations to The View, etc., if not for these shows? Absolutely not.

    Even Alex being signed by a modeling agency would not have stood a chance outside of her association but this gives the agency an opportunity to sell themselves through her. Guarantee that once this show eventually makes its way to Boot Hill that contract will be dissolved along with it. The same for Lu Ann. That “recording career” will have disappeared as fast as the Count made his way back to Europe.

    Can’t blame anyone for cashing in but without the exposure of doing this show none of us would have ever heard of them. Plucked from obscurity and absent any talent whatsoever, they would be as anonymous today as they were prior to signing with Bravo.

    • aliand says:

      Even that NeNe secured a stint hosting segments on our Atlanta NBC morning news. They ran a few promos with her screaming BAM! at the top of her lungs but I never got the point. She’s not well spoken, personable, smart, photogenic, nor does she have any area of expertise. But there she was doing some lifestyle, get a makeover kind of packages. I don’t know if shes still doing them. Synergy at its finest.

    • kats2 says:

      I don’t blame any of them for doing the show or using the show to sell stuff. My only problem is the poor choices they make on how they “act” on the show and all the lying about the vile behavior. A good start would be to own the truth and stop the spin. They have now scene themselve on TV, go get help. This is all the stuff they can control and 99% of them still choose to go back to the dumpster.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The opportunity is there – they have to bring the talent. Some can and some can not and the ones who can’t will eventually disappear.

  49. Zipit Zarin says:

    Anyone old enough to remember the show Make Me Laugh? 3 comedians would come out and tell jokes to your face and the longer you didn’t laugh the more money you made. My ex and I would watch and try not to laugh. OMG Twas great! I looked for it on youtube but there are only a few examples and not that funny.

    • dumberries says:

      I loved that show ZipIt! I used to watch it my dad, and my sisters and I used to play it when we were young (okay, sometimes we still do).. My dad and I also loved The Liars Club – he always guessed right. Good times…

  50. LynnNChicago says:

    This was posted under the page “Giudice Filing Document”:

    Lynn love your blog.muah!(That’s a kiss) I want to tell you that I live here in the same town as Tara (Joe’s sicilian sidedish)and I can’t take another second of this.

    Joe & Tara (or Beppe and Petit) have been together for a while. I spoke with her friend Alex who said they are all disgusted and surprised at the relationship. Tara comes from a wealthy and well connected family. Her father is a crazy sicilian.

    Anyway,they meet up in Long Beach Island at her beach house and it’s easier to meet up now that Teresa is away a lot (like this weekend in Vegas)

    Teresa: where was Joe the night of the christening? And the night you came back from Italy. He left the house and you know it, to “check on the pizza place” yeah right!

    Joe is a jealous lunatic when it comes to Tara F (not G) she gorgeous, so what the hell is she doing with a broke loser her friends ask? It’s sexual supposedly.

    She tweets to him in italian so he can keep tabs on her (again, because he’s jealous) Alexandra said when she posted her photo on her twitter he flipped out because he said if people find it “everyone will want to get in your pants and I’m going to go apeshit”

    she hasn’t taken the photo down, but wrote on it to him .

    According to her friend she secretly tweets under:


    Also according to her friend, Joe is leaving Teresa asap. He can’t stand the cameras and press. He just wants to live quietly. Teresa is a fame whore and 15 minutes is up. Tara told her she’ll never come forward because she’s afraid of her family.

    I asked about a baby boy. No one will give me info.

    I’ll try to get more scoop. Her friends are starting to talk.

    • kats2 says:

      Lynn – very interesting information. Let’s see how this plays out and if we can find her on-line.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Well, whoever you are: WELCOME! Please dig hard, dig fast, dig deep and report back ASAP.

    • Olivia says:

      Would love to know more from the friend named “Alex”. Looks like the house of cards may be ready to collapse.

      If Joe is so unhappy with the filming, why would he agree to stay on for another season since his absence would be duly noted and the show must go on? Doubt that Bravo would take a chance by not having him available since Teresa has built up so much “happy talk” around their “love”.

      Or is this Joe and Teresa’s turn to “renew vows”?

      • Olivia says:

        Here is where my “cynicism” begins to kick in though.

        “Tara” is supposedly, blond, beautiful and comes from money. Any truth to that and she would be very easy to find. And if so, then why would she be wasting her time with this loser who is up to his eyeballs in debt, has 4 kids, and tosses pizzas for a living?

        I am not suggesting there is a not girlfriend somewhere, but it is difficult to believe that this description is wholly accurate for starters. Am sure he is a “player” but this description makes her sound like a “debutante”.

        Sometimes a “nephew” is just that.

        • Had Enough! says:

          Agreed, Olivia, but I’ve seen many “huh? what does she/he see in him/her relationships.”

          Also she may have met him before all the shit hit the fan, and he handed her that same line of BS about his income as he did the rest of the world, and now he is feeding her (if there really is a her) the same line of BS we are hearing about how it is all Teresa’s fault for overspending.

          I also wouldn’t doubt that he has money stashed and also has more income that no one has found yet.

          Other Tara tidbits that I’ve read over the week – she lives outside Philly and works for a major apparel group (some guessed Jones New York) and that she’s just bought a farm where they are going to live.

          Who the heck knows?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Joe needs $$$$$ and the show provides some. Teresa has to know what the real deal is – but she wears denial like last year’s Versace. Joe doesn’t strike me as wanting to be a star, he really appears to love his daughters and he is looking for his happy life san crazy wife.

    • Someone posted the name Tara Fowler (doesn’t sound Italian does it?) in some comments somewhere–I thought it was another fake thing, but the name did stick in my head.
      Wow–if there really is another woman, it sounds like she wants Teresa to know about it.

      • Olivia says:

        It just seems kind of contrived for some reason. We know that Teresa did not “accidentally” become pregnant last year but had to seek treatment from a fertility clinic in order to do so. They still owe them money.

        Which means Juicy Joe had to sign on to that effort as well. So if there was a “Tara” hanging around, why would he consent to this if it were as serious a relationship as some claim? And by agreeing to appear in a second season of this travesty, he would be filmed in domestic situations while his “girlfriend” watched. Doesn’t add up.

        Not to say he doesn’t fool around: this I believe. But “Tara” may just be a figment of the imagination in suggesting he is about to leave a wife and family when it appears they are both signed on for Season 3.

        • Olivia says:

          Like it or not, Joe is integral to Teresa’s appearances on this show. His absence would be difficult to explain away unlike Tommy Manzo who was never shown from the beginning.

          Therefore it is safe to assume that if Bravo invited her to return, Joe was part of that deal. Which puts to rest his possible departure based on how fed up he is supposed to be with all this disclosure surrounding his finances and his “girlfriend”.

          This would be the ripest opportunity to plead out of this show should he wish to and so far we have not seen that to be evident.

          • TEB says:

            Olivia- Fertility clinics now offer the “choose your baby’s sex” option. That is what I am assuming they did. It isn’t 100% (clearly)

      • Hmm. Now I’ve seen this Twitter thing posted in some other comments, and the account appears to be deleted.
        Tara Fowler is Montel William’s wife-I can’t see anyone dropping Montel for Juicy Joe.
        A lot of people in New Jersey call Long Beach Island LBI, as far as I know, nobody lives there year-round.
        I looked up the translation for “flower” from English to Italian, and I learned that it’s Fiore, which is interesting, but it isn’t really relevant.
        Seriously, if Joe is cheating on Teresa, and she doesn’t approve, I would feel sorry for her.-But this could be a fun mystery & I like the language part of it.

    • flippy says:

      Just checked out the twitter and its blocked to the general public. Also the only one following petiteposie is beppejoe. I wonder is there is anyway to tell how long this twitter has been active? That would give a clue as to whether its a setup.

    • boston02127 says:

      Hmm… I don’t know. Joe can read Italian???? He can barely grunt in English. Also, she’s afraid of her family? How old is she, 15?

  51. MickeyMouth says:

    Do you think she sees the irony in the name of the club?

  52. Had Enough! says:

    Watching a Flipping Out I missed. Jeff’s first meeting with Barb. Nice to see a genuine smile on his face. There is obviously a deep core of warmth there.

    But finished in 8 weeks? Baloney.

    Still not liking Zoila. In fact, liking her less and less. Saw the epi last night where she said she couldn’t watch Jett’s baby and clean house. Bitch please. Most women do that all day every day for years. Everyone says that she and Jeff just give one another the business but I don’t think that’s true. I think she is really hostile and resentful and disrespectful. I would have canned her a long time ago. I am sick of her endless whining and could a person move any slower? Whatever he asks, she says “Oh Jeffrey” and walks away. Meanwhile, Jett is doing half her work – making the drinks, cleaning up, etc. He looks great since he cut his hair. Wish he’d lose the goofy western shirts.

    I also don’t think she actually lives there. TV.com says she lives with her brothers and sisters. And she doesn’t have to stop for an hour each day to watch her telenovelas. She could tape or DVR them.

    Flame away.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      no flame- I agree.

      She started off as cute, the housekeeper who had nothing to do because OCD Jeff did everything -even as going so far as to fold his dirty clothes.

      She was cute for a long time, I always smiled when she was on. Now, not so much.

      It almost seems like there is an underlying hostility that wasn’t there before. She’s getting quite comfortable, and I think she may slightly resent the other cast members. After all, she was alone with Jeff for a long time.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      I love Flipping Out, and I agree there is a good heart in Jeff. Maybe Zoila is a TV ‘foil’ (OMG, I just used a Kelly word) for Jeff. Like, as Olivia points out so well, a ‘nonreality’ reality.

      • Adgirl says:

        I think Zoila is bored with living & working at Jeeeeff’s.
        She’s been in the US for how long? I know Jeff sponsored her citizenship so it’s been a while. I think she is both grateful for him and also feeling stifled. Maybe she has a man friend now. Why else would she be waxing “down there”?

        The whole FO stuff in Jeff’s house is boring now. Jett, Zoila and pet poop, human urine is a yawn. I like the house remodeling stuff and the business staff interactions. Sounds like Jenny really likes her guy- she refuses to talk about him on camera.

  53. Wall St Lady says:

    I have to politely disagree.
    M&M Gorilla would still be charged with fraudulent intent and in the papers for their possible auction. Snark snark !

  54. Zipit Zarin says:

    Who else is putting petiteposie in their Twitter search? LOL

  55. Upper WestSide Dude says:

    Since the Daily news has quoted this site you have to know Teresa and her cohorts are following what is said here. Brilliant!

  56. Seriously? says:

    Never done this before, hope it works


    • Had Enough! says:

      OK so grabbing what’s there:

      buona notte papà Beppe about 2 hours ago via web

      Ciao Beppe

      accompanied by a photo of a blond sitting on the beach
      location NJ & PA
      one follower
      this person has protected her tweets

      • JazzNightOut says:

        The one follower is Beppe5: beppe joe.

        • Had Enough! says:

          Hmmm. Are we getting warm?

        • Seriously? says:

          Thank you! I am apparently one step behind.
          So does anyone know what Beppe means?

        • Olivia says:

          Is there a way of determining when this Twitter account was first created? It may be nothing more than someone just putting it out there to establish their own credibility in feeding this information to the public.

          Pardon my inability to take these things at face value but we have been fed so much crapola by these people that it is difficult to sign on without some real proof.

          Don’t forget “TweetMaxine”.

        • JazzNightOut says:

          I am a friggin’ coward. I am starting to feel as if I am playing with someone else’s life. If all this is true and does pertain to the Giudices, I think I am going to read only (not saying I am a saint.)

          • OneMoreinBoston says:

            Please understand the spirit of my question, sometimes it is difficult to understand inflection in a written blog.

            I’m not trying to challenge you but am curious: why?

            • JazzNightOut says:

              Hi OneMore: No problem with the question. I am a very private person myself and have had others pry into my life when I least needed it. I think I am having empathy for Teresa now if all this is true, but as I said, not enough not to read the results of others’ sleuthing. I think they I (the Giudices) have put themselves in the place where this will happen to them. And I pronounce Giudice as JuDeeChay, lol.

          • Had Enough! says:

            I am thinking that too. OTOH, you go on a reality TV show…not like there weren’t other Housewife shows before this one, not like they couldn’t have known what to expect, and not like they aren’t aware that people are interested in the contrast between what they claim to be and what they really are. After all, these are the people (not Joe specifically, but Teresa and the Manz0/Lauritas) who thought it appropriate to dig into Danielle’s past – 25 years past – and air it all over town and on TV. Who actually had dinner with Kevin Staub. So all in all, I am thinking we’re not doing anything that a reporter wouldn’t do.

          • Seriously? says:

            I get what you are saying JazzNightOut. I don’t want it to be my hand on the detonator so to speak. Of course the whole thing may be a hoax. How hard is it to set up a twitter account and label a photo to look incriminating? Of course as I do not have a twitter account, may be harder than I think, but I do know, files can be named anything.

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              At the very least – someone is feeding information to this site because they know what is really going on and are sick of it. When I think back to the jersey blog before the RHONJ it was obvious to me that many people did not like the housewives and two years later they still don’t!

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      So I cut and pasted the picture into a word document (yes-I KNOW I need to get a life) and blew it up 500%.
      If this is in fact Tara- she’s gorgeous.
      And NOT the pictures that were posted of the model TaraG.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Holy cannoli. Did you see the file name?


        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          oh man- so busted!!!

          • Had Enough! says:

            You know that tweet was about two hours ago and now I am getting “sorry that page doesn’t exist.” Could the account have been deleted because we found it?

            • Seriously? says:

              I only found it through the cached page. Google says that …
              It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Sep 2, 2010 03:50:22 GMT
              The original was already removed.

        • Olivia says:

          Just a reminder not to forget “tweetmaxine” before we begin to accept anything that shows up as “proof” by other people.

          Just saying.

  57. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi. ZipiZ I am a RC too

  58. Had Enough! says:

    There is a Tara Fiore in Schwenksville, PA which is north of Philly.

    • I looked on Google image search & found an avatar of a Tara Fiore who looks a lot like the one on the deleted Twitter page. WTH is Papa Bepe supposed to mean?
      I really think we might be getting set-up here?? Its too perfect–I am so anti-Tweetmaxine, specially since Simon asked everyone to drop her too, but I’d love to know what she says about all this, “Tara” business.

  59. The Digger says:

    I just wanted to say hi to all the cool kids and my buds on this blog and welcome to the new faces too! Had Enough! Good to see you! Ms. Boston, Cusi, everyone. Hope you are all doing well and keeping the good stuff flowing. Lynn, love ya sweets. You know I had to take care of all that somber stuff since February but I will try to be a bit more present on the blog.

    I’ve been watching DC and crazy NJ. HA!!! What a bunch of vapid bitches. Skelator Salahi and her delusional husband. Kat the bitch. Oh, and have you heard that Danielle has a song out now? 🙂 The thing is…I still hate Jill Zarin the most.
    Big end of summer hugs – The Digger

    • Had Enough! says:

      Digger! Where HAVE you been? We really could use your skills right now.

      • The Digger says:

        I could ask you the same thing?! Nice to see you back!

        I have been using my cyber shovel behind the scenes. I did however, dig a nice hole for Theresa awhile back and it seems she has officially jumped in. I don’t know if she is going to find the prison jumpsuits to her fashion liking.. Did she and Juicy actually think they were going to lie their way out of a bankruptcy filing? Seriously? False tax returns? Not declare a $750k book advance? Really? IQ of 2 that pair.. combined.

        You have to love when she was growling at D during the reunion. Freaked my cat out, ears flattened he ran out of the room.

        • They forgot to include Joe & the children’s salaries from the show too.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Aren’t those to be held until they reach 18? I don’t think that factors in.

            • The Digger’s back! Yay!

            • No. Because the show is “reality”, the children lose all rights that normal child-actors/performers get, (much like the Gosselin children) including the right to have their money put away for them in a Coogan-account.
              I have a link that explains it on my page. http://www.njhousewives.blogspot.com

              • Had Enough! says:

                Coogan laws don’t exist in most states anyway. I think it is just California and NY, which makes sense since since most of the entertainment industry is found in those two states. I’m not sure it matters whether the shows are reality or not, though. In NY, the definition is “Artistic or creative services” shall include, but are not limite to, services as an actor, actress, dancer, musician, comedian, singer, stunt-person, voice-over artist, or other performer or entertainer, or as a songwriter, musical producer or arranger, writer, director, producer, production executive, choreographer, composer, conductor, or
                designer.” These accounts – which are for only 15% of the earnings! – are a condition of getting the child a work permit in those two states. In California, the law was just changed and it is now 100%. Octomom had to set up Coogan accounts for all her kids.

    • boston02127 says:

      Digger!!!!! So nice to see you here. You’ve been missed! 🙂

    • dumberries says:

      I wish In Touch Weekly would publish the US Trustee’s petition to deny the discharge of debt (or at least a summary). If they’re going to publish her idiotic excuses and denials about how they ended up $11 mil in debt, they ought to at least run the legal documents that outlines the facts.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Makes me wonder who is paying the Guidice’s lawyer to keep the bankruptsy as drawn out as possible. And where are they stashing their money/stuff until the decision is made? What I don’t understand is either way why would Teresa want to continue to put her family on tv????

      • Had Enough! says:

        Well, she needs the dough. Say that Bravo caves (despite the fact that there is another year to go on her contract, and she’d be in breach of the contract if she refuses to go on) and gives her 6k/epi or even more. For 18 episodes, that is 108k. Now, that isn’t a huge amount of money in the abstract (again, please don’t get angry with me but in major east coast metropolitan areas, which are expensive and where ordinary houses cost 500-600k easily) but it is a lot for someone like Mrs. Gorilla who has no real education, is obviously dumb as a box of rocks, has four little kids and would find it hard to work full-time outside the house. What could she do? Work as a sales clerk at a department store? Assuming she could even get a job in this economy. It makes me want to puke that she could make that kind of money, but look at the price she has to pay.

  60. ilovelynn says:

    housewifehater: fyi, my husband’s family has had a “beach shack” on LBI since the ’50’s and there are alot of people that live there year round. the kids get bused over the bridge to the mainland to go to school.

    • WoW! Its always been deserted when I’ve been there in the winter except maybe S-B at the bottom of the bridge? And I mean really, really deserted like they say, “you could throw a bowling-ball…”-I actually love it when its like that.
      I had no idea they had locals there.

  61. JKW says:

    Hi everyone, I was thinking about this….if family members gave them as much money they stated..wouldn’t that be a gift ? If you give more than 12K annually you pay a gift tax. I think they said they received 10K /mo. Does this mean to make themselves look better they may be screwing over their relatives ? Only way they could do this is to say several relatives gave them the money.

    • Had Enough! says:

      For 2010 it is 13k per year per family member. So M/M plus four = 6 x 13k = 78k. So say her mother, the bus driver, gives them 78k per year and his parents (and actually each one of them can give this much) give them 78k per year. After they get done bailing out his brother, that is. So that’s 156k year.

  62. flippy says:

    Okay, a couple of hours ago I requested petiteposie “allow” me to view her twitter page. I thought this would be a way to tell if this was a set up. Sure enough when I put her in the search box, the twitter account comes up. I can only surmise she has “accepted” my request. I’m going to post below but…..notice how the first tweet in on Sept. 2nd. Smells like a rat to me. The tweets are below….what do you guys think?

    # Io amo Vegas scimmie less than 10 seconds ago via web

    * Reply
    * Retweet


    OMG ! Beppe u took this photo of me, stop getting jealous.nessuna gelosia ti amo. Had to go: il papà è qui! non può comunicare. buona notte 8:29 PM Sep 2nd via web

    * Reply
    * Retweet


    ps: Sto ottenendo il mio taglio dei capelli al 11:00 am allora che possiamo andare 8:22 PM Sep 2nd via web

    * Reply
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    nessuna gelosia ti amo 8:14 PM Sep 2nd via web

    * Reply
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    Beppe this is sicilianu ! urumani ci sarà una timpesta, no? in LBI? 8:12 PM Sep 2nd via web

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    possono i lupi vederli? 8:01 PM Sep 2nd via web

    * Reply
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    Beppe il mio amore, your fav photo of me, xo ♥ ♥{la vostra foto favorita di me} 6:35 PM Sep 2nd via web

    * Reply
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    il papà è qui 6:34 PM Sep 2nd via web

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    LBI xo 6:27 PM Sep 2nd via web

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    siamo fare buon lo telefoniamo quando potete 6:25 PM Sep 2nd via web

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    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      ok- so can anyone translate from Italian to English?

      • flippy says:

        Okay the plot thickens…..when I got to her twitter site I clicked her “follow” button before I worked on cutting and pasting the tweets. No sooner than I posted the tweets here and went back to twitter, I was blocked from following her. Hmmmmm

      • Had Enough! says:

        # Io amo Vegas scimmie less than 10 seconds ago via web

        I love Vegas Monkeys


        OMG ! Beppe u took this photo of me, stop getting jealous.nessuna gelosia ti amo.

        Not jealousy. I love you.

        Had to go: il papà è qui! non può comunicare. buona notte 8:29

        Had to go, father is here. I can’t communicate. Good night.

        ps: Sto ottenendo il mio taglio dei capelli al 11:00 am allora che possiamo andare 8:22 PM Sep 2nd via web

        I am getting a haircut at 11 a.m. then we can go

        nessuna gelosia ti amo 8:14 PM Sep 2nd via web

        Not jealousy I love you

        Beppe this is sicilianu ! urumani ci sarà una timpesta, no? in LBI? 8:12 PM Sep 2nd via web

        Beppe this is sicilianu (person’s name? slang?) – not sure of urumani – there will be a storm in Long Beach Island?

        possono i lupi vederli? 8:01 PM Sep 2nd via web

        The wolves are able to see them?

        Beppe il mio amore, your fav photo of me, xo ♥ ♥{la vostra foto favorita di me} 6:35 PM Sep 2nd via web

        Beppe my love …you get the rest.


        il papà è qui 6:34 PM Sep 2nd via web

        My father is here

        LBI xo 6:27 PM Sep 2nd via web

        siamo fare buon lo telefoniamo quando potete 6:25 PM Sep 2nd via web

        We are doing good, will phone you when I can.

        • Susu says:

          as i am half sicilian and speak the dialect…:
          sicilianu just means sicilian..
          she tells him: this is sicilian…and then she writes in the sicilian dialect: do u think that there will be a storm?

    • anniieee says:

      Italian to English translation
      I’m getting my hair cut at 11:00 am so we can go

      no jealousy love you

      Beppe Sicilianu this is! urumani there will be a timpesta, right? in LBI?

      wolves can see them? #

      Beppe my love, your fav photo of me, xo (♥ ♥ your favorite photo of me)
      daddy is here
      LBI xosiamo do you call it good

      Best I could do… had to cut out times

  63. Rawhideaz says:

    It’s probably “you know who”. I’m amazed she hasn’t flown in here yet to cause her chaos.

    • flippy says:

      Sorry for my ignorance….but who is “you know who”?

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        I think they’re referring to theresa- saying she took over the account and is now trying to spin doctor it- but don’t speak italian so…I’m guessing

        • Rawhideaz says:

          Actually no – I was referring to the troublemaker who caused many of us to leave this blog before.

    • Had Enough! says:

      You think TwitMaxine speaks Italian? Who knows? Could be.

      Yeah, I’m thinking if she let you view her page, the whole thing is a set-up. Could be Trashley, w/ T writing it out for her.

      Io amo Vegas scimmie = I love Vegas monkeys.

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        oh OK THAT you know who-

        whoever it is -lil smartypants-but you’re all smarter

        • SGas says:

          I think it’s totally fake. And it’s public now, so they want people to see it.

          • Had Enough! says:

            Right. Who do you think the wolves are? They are talking about us. It is even possible that this is a convo between M/M Gorilla (for our benefit).

            • quincyillinois says:

              I’d walk away from this set up. I absolutely trust nothing coming from this source or the twitter accounts. I think this is a scam to discredit this site.

      • Rawhideaz says:

        Google translator works both ways. You can make up whatever you want in English and then translate it into Italian. Who knows really if it’s legit or not. If it is legit, Joe’s chick could want to expose the whole thing to gets things moving and out in the open. Maybe she’s tired of the secret. Again . . . strictly speculation on my part.

        • boston02127 says:

          It’s probably a scam that Jacqueline and Teresa thought up. If there were pic’s of Joe & so called Tara F. someone here would have found them, they wouldn’t have fallen on our lap. On top of all that, what desperate woman would EVER admit to sleeping with Joe.

  64. Olivia says:

    It is possible that someone is “playing” this blog.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Yup. Looks that way.

    • anniieee says:

      I did the translation… it is so easy… write what you want on the translator google site…pick your language and kapow… you have it in whatever language. I will give you an example.

      Wonder if someone is playing us?

      Now I will translate from google

      English to Vietnamese translation
      Tự hỏi, nếu một người nào đó chơi chúng tôi?

      did Vietnamese for fun…. I do this with lesson plans for students who have just come in country. I explain in English–and demo (art) while they can read along in their native language.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Playing the internet at large. The “info” that was posted on Lynn’s site has been posted in comment sections of several other blogs that I recall seeing at least within the last few days.

      The alleged “Tara” twitter icon pic has a date of Sept 2. The tweets posted here go back to Sept 2.

      Anything associated with these twitter accounts that existed before Sept 2?

  65. Diana says:

    Jac’s latest tweet. Let’s see how long it lasts:

    I need time to organize & sort some things out & make important decisions. Taking time away for a while to be with my kids and Hubby. XOXO!
    less than 10 seconds ago via web

  66. Wall St Lady says:

    I asked WSM to make a guest appearance but he needs encouragement. Regardless I will make 2 simple points about bankruptcy.
    1) It is very hard to prove fraud. ie the sons of Madoff who r enjoying their Nantucket mansions as we speak. It takes time. It is said 11more Madoff folks will b criminally charged. Meantime there r older people on food stamps cuz the trustee hasn’t finished his total net sweep.
    2) We have a flawed system that allowed these grifters to WAY OVER borrow ! The credit cards were granted not stolen (I think). Being in the gov. Assisted housing program is a license to steal the ,usually cash rents, pocket & avoid repairs at all costs. But this is our current system.

    Sadly for these reasons honest people get grifted.

    Hopefully M&M Gorilla will b denied the “fresh start”.
    The problem is ,it will b decided by our very
    FLAWED current system

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Perjury will not be too difficult to prove and that ends the goat rodeo – they will be fair game for the system to chew on as it sees fit. There will be no “fresh start” as the Guidices see it. The trustees have been jacked around enough and they don’t have to be nice…..

    • Jan in ATL says:

      The Giudices case is nothing like the Madoff’s. The Giudices are ignorant and are not capable of pulling off the scam of the century. They have pretty much documented themselves in a classic case of fraud and perjury on behalf of both Juicy Joe and Teresa by signing the bankruptcy documents under penalty of perjury even after the 3rd amendment by still omitting disclosure of significant assets. They will be rightly made examples of in this case.

  67. flippy says:

    See my reply upthread. I’ve now been blocked on the twitter account. I’m calling shenanigans.

    • anniieee says:

      I think someone is playing with us…..bunch of wacko’s in that group. Oh well, have to go to a b’day party. See you all later. Stay safe. xoxo

      • Char212 says:

        I think so too. I was just there and all of the tweets except for 1 which was just an hour ago were all on Sept. 2nd. Nothing before that so it’s a brand new site as far as I can tell. I can see Joe thinking he’s clever and decides to open fake twitter accs.

        • flippy says:


        • Seriously? says:

          I followed the same process and saw postings on several sites on Sept 2nd, practically begging people to check out Posie’s twitter site. Certainly looks like someone in need of a new hobby.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          You think Juicy Joe could/would manage that? I don’t. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

          Probably some internet “wit” at large or perhaps someone local to their area with an ax to grind who wants to stir up shit. Someone’s (or a number of various someones) been trying to get various sites to bite on the “Tara” rumor for months at least.

          Maybe Juicy has been a roamer, maybe not. So far it’s speculation, rumor. The bankruptcy is documented fact.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      The writer who replied to Lynn said:
      “Teresa: where was Joe the night of the christening? And the night you came back from Italy. He left the house and you know it, to “check on the pizza place” yeah right!”
      So who’s side is the faker on? or is it just a red herring to see how far they can take the joke?

  68. Laura aka Just done says:

    OK, just here to leave a comment regarding Andy Cohen and Watch What Happens. Not sure if anyone caught it on their DVR, but Andy is having the 12 year old boy on WWHL on Thursday. WTF? When have we sunk too low Andy?

    • Rawhideaz says:

      Must be the “famous” Ben Weiner”. I think it’s kinda cute . . . but then I’m an Andy fan.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        Sorry…I can’t agree. As a parent of a 15 year old, I couldn’t imagine if my son was 12, allowing him to watch these women pole dancing, and whatever else they are doing. Thing about the bubbie and chuckie talk. Call me a prude, I don’t care. It’s not appropriate tv for a 12 year old, and although WWHL says that you must be 18 to call in, Andy not only allows the calls, now he’s promoting it by having the kid on TV.

        I think it says alot about the parents and about Bravo, for exploiting this kid.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      ewww… I think it’s wicked creepy!

      Not that this kid is watching, I’m sure a lot of kids have tv’s in their bedrooms and are watching when they’re supposed to be doing their homework, I think it’s weird and creepy the way Andy’s eyes light up when he calls in, just …disturbing.

    • boston02127 says:

      Ben! Lynn luvs him!–NOT 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      That little kid is creepy and Andy is creepier – Andy used to be funny and had interesting guests. Sad because I used to look forward to WWHL.

    • emt2 says:

      I don’t think that his obsession with Ben Weiner is cute or funny.

      Ben is being exploited by Andy, who is an old man compared to this 12 year-old kid. It’s so gross and disgusting and I think that Ben’s parents are suspect if they allow him to appear on the adult-themed show with a drunk host.

      It reminds me of this show that used to come on in the late 70s, early 80s. It was a game show and the host was this really creepy man, who was really nice but really overly affectionate with the young girls on the show. He would kiss them on the mouth and flirt with them, in front of the smiling parents. It was really gross.

      I’m not saying that Andy is creepy in that way but something about his interaction and constant need to talk about this kid reminds me of that host. Also the Housewives show is a very adult-themed show, no place for little kids. Why is Andy encouraging kids to watch drunken women fight with each other, expose their breasts, etc.? It is CREEPY!

      • emt2 says:

        This is what that whole Andy/Ben situation reminds me of, honestly.

        • babelony says:

          OMG, was that on a regular network? What a perv. I agree with you about Andy and Ben. It’s creepy!

      • iwannabeanarchy says:

        Maybe Ben is a relative of Andy’s…? Or another Bravo exec.? I doubt that Andy would do something so creepy, it just doesn’t make sense.

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          @ iwannabeanarchy – I guess you’ve never seen this kid call in on WWHL. It’s truly disturbing. My question has always been – “where are the parents?”

  69. Had Enough! says:

    WSM – would love to know what you think of our shenanigans. Actually, maybe not. I should be working, not following this blog! Or outside enjoying this amazing weather!

    • flippy says:

      @ Had Enough…..my husband keeps trying to lure me outside and away from my obsession. I need to get out there and breathe some fresh air.

  70. Wall St Lady says:

    Jazz. My bb doesn’t have a reply option under posts. I noticed on Squirrels blog there was a reply option. So unless Lynn helps me out I may often b way off the current chat. Any way I saw ur desire to not have ur hand in the rock throwing at T & J. I wanted to assure u there r just as many DEVOUT lovers of T. Like the other Manzo bunch. Like any good horse race there r no guarantees. Watch the race don’t feel guilty u r just part of the crowd & happen to b sitting w/ur LynnFam. & we lOAO !

  71. Had Enough! says:

    I have a feeling Melissa Gorga’s going to be the topic of a lot of discussion. Here is a photo of her two kids on a boat. No life vests. Don’t tell me “oh but they are at dock.” Kids can slip overboard while the boat is at dock, you know.


    Also interesting that Teresa Giudice is not on Melissa’s Facebook friends.

    • Rawhideaz says:

      Darling kidlets though.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Teresa doesn’t make her kids wear seatbelts in their cars and Melissa doesn’t make her kids wear life vests in the boat – what are you going to do?

      • vilzvet says:

        I read that the daughter is also in or trying to break in the modeling business and probably does well at it considering her looks, which could also be another thorn in Teresa’s side.

  72. Wall St Lady says:

    I have solved the problem. My family knows Windy,Had enough ,lynn,Snarkella ,Vilvett, Boston 1& 2 etc. They say hey Wall St Lady what did so &so think ? They all think I may love my at more than my. Husband (NO WAY). But since I am calling myself Snarkella they cried when they herd of Snarkitty ! I read posts outloud. We love it. LOL

  73. Adgirl says:

    All this Juicy/Tara/Teresa scum is making me sick. There are 4 kids involved for Chrissakes!
    What’s wrong with those people?

    Also, am I the only one who can’t believe how dumb Teresa is demanding publicly big $$ for the upcoming season while she is still in BK proceedings? Does she think her creditors aren’t going to want to grab a piece of that??

    • Rawhideaz says:

      What would you do if you were her? Make no money at all?

    • Had Enough! says:

      Pre-bankruptcy creditors won’t be able to get their hands on post-bankruptcy assets unless the discharge is denied.

      I don’t think Teresa worries about her kids. I think she worries about looking rich. If she was worried about her kids, she wouldn’t be on this show because you know that at least Gia has got to be hearing about it, possibly seeing bits of it, and they will surely hear about it in the future.

      • Rawhideaz says:

        Sad for so many of the kids . . . especially Danielle’s.

        • Adgirl says:

          Aren’t the BK proceedings basically re-opened per the Trustee’s filing this week? The G’s were dishonest with the court and their creditors about assests and income so I think the entire mess will be reevaluated in the creditors favor.

          And, no. I don’t want the little girls to starve. Like the rest of us Teresa and Juicy obviously should earn for their family, the question is what is fair to the people who extended them credit (lent them money) and how much is sufficient income for a family of 6 in NJ. If she is making over $100K from RH then that is unfair to the creditors. Not every family in NJ has to live in a mcmansion or buy $60K of replacement furniture for it.
          Sorry, I’m a little touchy on the subject of grifters. 🙂

          • Need a Hobby says:

            The bankruptcy case hasn’t ever been “closed.” It’s open and pending.

            As part of the proceedings, the court appointed a trustee for the G’s estate to review the matter. That trustee’s review resulted in a complaint against the G’s advising the court to deny the requested discharge of debt (T’s “fresh start.”) (This complaint filed end of June to meet a July 1 deadline.)

            More recently, it appears a trustee from the DOJ has filed another complaint against the G’s to deny them the discharge. That’s the filing posted here.

            So both the bankruptcy court appointed trustee and the DOJ’s trustee’s office have filed to deny the G’s their “fresh start.” The court hasn’t ruled on this yet.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        If she worried about her kids she wouldn’t go around acting like a total skeevy violent ass. Teresa’s behavior has to be a hugh embarassment to them. Gia looked and acted different on the Italian trip so she is probably becoming aware that not eveyone thinks her mom is “fabulous”.

  74. lillybee says:

    So what is going on with Michaele posing for playboy. Yesterday it was a done deal. Today not so much.

  75. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi Laura ! I was thinking I want to see if T & J’s proceeding r open. If so let’s go !
    I couldn’t agree more that a properly supervised 12 year old should not b exposed to Ho Wives or Andy who I laugh at but wouldn’t act like sometimes

  76. because1 says:

    Case #09-39032-MSDOC AKA known as Teresa Giudice,AKA PROSECUTION WHORE!!
    Turn around is a monster!My father always says”BE CARFUL OF WHAT YOU SAY AND
    PEOPLE ON YOUR WAY DOWN”.You’re not going to be able to lie your way out of this.it’s
    all over the web,tv,radio newspapers etc,TERESA GIUDICE THIS IS YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You have the gall to try and denigrate another person about something that happened over
    25 yrs. ago.You stated that you only talked about her when you’re on camera.You want
    everyone to know about Danielle,right?Well we can all pull your record and read everything
    about you.Your number is at the top of my page.Teresa this is you! Teresa Giudice= gaudy,
    loud,trashy,vile, uneducated,crude,clueless,tacky,graceless,tasteless,and illiterate.Borrowed
    some of the words from Debra,but they all fit.And when Joe goes to jail,you’re going to be a
    PROSTITUTION WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. Susu says:

    I think the twitter thing is fake…

    but there is a Tara Fiore on FB. The name could be the right one….
    What i get from her FB account she recently moved from New Jersey to Brooklyn cuz she had to do so because of some strange reason..

    —because the whole thing with Joe got on the surface???

    And she is writing on FB that she is in love with some guy..and her friends cant really understand it because its so difficult but then write that it must be love then…

    And this relationship seems to be not difficult or sth like that cuz once she writes:
    **3.4.10** its official he’s back in my life.!.!.

    check it out…maybe its her..name and hair color would fit and a lot of stuff more….

    if its not her i apologize….

    • Had Enough! says:

      The one that blows my mind – has since Day 1 – is Danielle Staub. Forget the Manzo/Laurita clan digging up the book. Who cares? What an incredible risk to take that the drug dealer or his friends would see it and recognize her. And once the others started talking about the book, the ex, etc. surely word got around even if they somehow didn’t recognize her? Does she really think they won’t come after her? Maybe they are just waiting until the show is off the air and no one is paying attention to her anymore at least not in public. I find it incredible that the guy she pistol-whipped didn’t hear about the show until the ex-husband’s lawyers tracked him down. Unless no one knew his story, surely someone he knows saw it and put 2+2 together.

      I think the reason she is so paranoid is that for 25 years she has been looking over her shoulder. She’s just displaced it onto the Manzos and Lauritas.

      • emt2 says:

        That is why I don’t really think that there are drug lords or the Columbian cartel really looking for her. Let’s face it. If they wanted to find her, they could have done so a long time ago. I think it’s safe to say that Teresa and Joe run more risk of having people looking for them than people from 25 years ago looking for Danielle.

        She seems like she has always been paranoid but I don’t think her paranoia surrounding the Manzo clan is unfounded. They dug up her past and they try to divert attention from their own shady dealings by bringing up Danielle all of the time. It’s so transparent, I think.

        Why would you met with an castmate’s ex-husband who is a convicted felon? Why go through that much trouble? I think that Danielle is involved with lawsuits against her castmates because her castmates have inserted themselves into her private life and lawsuits against her by people they don’t even know. It’s so strange.

    • KirksvilleMo says:

      This girl is pretty heavy set.Not petite,short.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      If there really is a TaraG, I don’t think this is the girl.
      It looks like she’s back in Brooklyn because she injured her knee or tore ligaments or something like that.
      Weird that she’s so young and has only 73 facebook friends, usually girls that age have over 1000.

    • Seriously? says:

      Wouldn’t it be awful to have the same name as a scandalebrity and have people checking you out to see if you were the one. There are several women with this name in the United States, and we first have to buy into the rumor that Joe has a lover on the side, ick, and that this is her name. What if T just puts on a blonde wig, calls herself Tara and they meet at a bar for a playdate to spice things up. Double ick, but stranger things have happened.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      ReRenovate SanQuentin
      StupidWife BankruptLife
      Prosecution Whore (can’t take credit for that one)
      *FABULICIOUS!* Fake
      Fugazi Housewife of NJ
      Mom Spent 11M and all I got was this lousy t-shirt
      Don’tHoldMeBack Giudice
      DoNotBringUpMyFamily Fugazi
      GoBigOrGoHome ToThePizzeria

  78. Wall St Lady says:

    Sounds like Jo’s type. Notice 5’2″ Trasha is taller than jo

  79. I don't have my notes says:

    Regarding the authenticity of those tweets, the name PetitePosie can be translated as Little Flower. Little Flower is another name used for Saint Teresa.

    Just sayin’

  80. dumberries says:

    I don’t think there is a Tara and probably no love child. Juicy may fool around, but that wouldn’t shock me about any married or woman, especially those that crave attention badly enough to be on a reality show. For the family’s sake, I hope things are relatively stable at home. I love reading everyone’s posts and all of the gossip, don’t get me wrong. I just feel much more vested in seeing these clowns be exposed for the grifting, bankruptcy fraud, and continued drunk/reckless driving incidents – the things that they callously do (and lie about) that really affect the public adversely and put others at risk. I’d rather see Juicy the “Reality Star” being lead out of court in an orange jumpsuit on InSession (Court/TruTv) than getting caught with his pants down on an episode of Cheaters (but, I’d probably watch either!). Teresa can stay out of the slammer, living in affordable housing and working her butt off as a single parent to pay back all the people they’ve stiffed. Dare to dream…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I watch reality tv but would never ever consider being on a show – no amount of money would change that fact. Not that I have anything to hide – I just don’t think these women realize that when they sign up they are really signing up for every single aspect of their lives to be examined, made fun of, judged, etc. Yet apparently there are women lining up to get on these types of shows!
      IMO each of draw a line where we are comfortable knowing about a complete stranger’s life and family. We don’t like the criminal aspects, the violent tendencies, the way their kids are paraded around, their relationships with each other – point being it goes on and on. When is stops being funny then it is time to find another amusement.

    • lillybee says:

      Since she does all the work at the mansion herself, she can start Teresa’s cleaning service.

  81. Had Enough!–are you still here? Hon-we must have grown up in the same area. -see upthread, “Doris Duke”.
    Ladies, I think we should have a re-union in Atlantic City over the Winter?
    Last year, the NY Housewives started in February, this year I have no idea, but if anyone wants to do it, we could get great bi-level, (2-story) suites in February at the casinos.

  82. Wall St Lady says:

    Some new monikers in honor of
    T& J
    Sorry Ass Liar AKA Juicy
    G I forget my vehicle

    Bring it on LynnFam

    • Seriously? says:


      Joe&Tree In Pro Per to be

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      How about:


        • Savannah111 says:

          People like her and her husband need to go to jail nothing but big liars. LOL can you imagine, I mean she cant stand the thought of living in someone elses house because its not cleansy LOL another word made up by her ignorant ass. And also could you imagine if she had to share a cell with a big bad moma named Bertha, and her making her, her bitch….. I can hear her now, Bertha aint I nice and aint I to pretty to work and be your bitch.

          • vilzvet says:

            This is funny I was checking my AOL mail and the first spam that popped up was: “You May Qualify for Bankruptcy”

  83. Wall St Lady says:

    FabU Brokalicious

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      ReRenovate SanQuentin
      StupidWife BankruptLife
      Prosecution Whore (can’t take credit for that one)
      *FABULICIOUS!* Fake
      Fugazi Housewife of NJ
      Mom Spent 11M and all I got was this lousy t-shirt
      Don’tHoldMeBack Giudice
      DoNotBringUpMyFamily Fugazi
      GoBigOrGoHome ToThePizzeria

  84. Savannah111 says:

    Thanks everyone for the welcome and I’ll be watching tomorrow night part 2 of the reunion and I know me I’ll have plenty to say.. Andy mentioned in his blog right after the reunion was filmed that we wouldnt believe how it starts and the ending he said was just shocking.. Not sure what went down in part 2 but I would love to see someone ( Danille ) knock Teresa’s head off. If it were me and Teresa got in my face like she did with Danielle in part one. No doubt about it she would be in the floor with someone getting her an ice pack, I’m not a violent person at all but I wouldnt take that from no one. Teresa disgusts me and it makes me sick when I read over at Bravo people say oh Teresa I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE you it makes my skin crawl. Bravo wont post any of my blogs over there, I did try to get a post in that basically was saying her fans are teenagers and LOL I read a couple of posts where they actually give their ages as 12 to 13.. HA I knew it… 🙂

  85. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    I have come to realized that Teresa is her own worst enemy. If the woman could just keep her mouth shut or not film certain things she would not have nearly the problems that she has.

    Case(s) in Point:

    1. Who would know about the pizza joint if she did not shoot there or tweet about it?
    2. Her “just wanting to talk to Danielle” at the country club ended up with the police there and extensions pulled out. Plus, Teresa looked like a rabid dog.
    3. Filmed shopping at the children’s store and spending over $1k while Milania destroys the store.
    4. Complaining about Caroline during and after the Italy trip even though she had kidney stones (which are a b!tch)
    5. Disgustingly late to family dinner at the Manzo’s blaming it on changing the babies diapers.
    6. More worried about her daughters going through rain puddles at Gia’s infamous birthday party instead of the fact the girls do not have helmets or knee/elbow guards.
    7. Lazily letting her daughters hit each other and Gabriella trying to hit Caroline on the cruise ship.

    These are all off the top of my head. If we did not see this or hear her inane comments we would be ignorant of most of her behavior yet Teresa thinks that her behavior is fine.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Have to agree – Teresa is the reason their current problems are so publicly know. She truly believes she is fabulous and her lifestyle is her right to be rude, violent, tacky and that anyone who doesn’t like it doesn’t matter or is “just jealous”. The latest legal woes are starting to filter onto other sites and by Tuesday it will probably be on national network channels as well. The more she opens her mouth the more trouble comes her way. At this point, IMO she isn’t thinking about her family or her marriage. At some point she will be too toxic for even Bravo and it will be difficult for them to include her in the cast.

      • dumberries says:

        Curious to see just how bad it has to get before Caroline cuts Teresa off. She hasn’t publicly challenged Teresa’s violence, bad behavior, vulgar language or disrespect. Will she look the other way at lying under oath and committing financial crimes? Probably. “Hang around garbage, you start to stink – I think Caroline knows she’s starting to reek, but can’t admit she’s been played…

        • boston02127 says:

          @dumberries–I can’t wait for that. Also, if Caroline cuts her off I wonder if Jacqueline will follow.

          • dumberries says:

            Poor repressed Jac – she misses her old “bad girl” days in Vegas. She chooses friends that appeal to her wild side, and they can’t cut the mustard with Caroline (who has no friends of her own). You just know Caroline had Jac investigated before Chris married her and didn’t want her coming into the family. I think that’s why Jac & Chris were sticking by Danielle after Dina/Caroline exposed her past – they’d been in Danielle’s shoes… In Teresa’s case, Caroline will likely grin and bear it publicly because she was foolish enough to call Teresa family and because of Dina’s ties to Teresa. She’s gonna have an ulcer to go with those kidney stones by the time this thing blows up in her face…

        • Scorpiosue1102 says:

          I think you’re right. Caroline seems the type that she will stick with it until the bitter end.

        • Cheri says:

          Caroline is a bully. I just rewatched the 2nd part of the table flip last year and she was a bully in it along with dome of the other ones I watched from last season ( I taped them when ghe were running a week or so ago). Interesting too in the second part ot the table flip dinner the younger son of caroline’s talks about how Teresa sent him flying across the room so of course I had to rewind it and yep you can see him go stumbling backwards when she is flipping out. Interesting the housewives are talking about they have never seen her act like this. I will tell you this that woman has one filthy mouth on her and I find it hard to believe they have never seen this side of her before. Those poor kids of her to gave to witness her gutter mouth

  86. Wall St Lady says:



    Momspent11mil& allI got was this stupid flower on my head (had to steal this one ,my fav)

    Fraud Fraud Fraud

  87. Wall St Lady says:

    Mayb the judge will allow Ms Gorilla to be on the History Channel’Swamp People. She could have her own show & teach us how to b swampalicious. She could write the SKinny Swamp Bitch about how to cook Alligator. (U can’t can Alligator during “Time of the Month”

  88. boston02127 says:

    Does anyone know how far Teresa, Caroline & Jacqueline live from each other?
    (driving distance)

  89. boston02127 says:

    Poor dumb Teresa heading off to another party with her blinders on.
    Her tweet– I’ll be at Stack signing books from 7 – 9 pm, then a little later I’ll be at Revolution at @MirageLV Bring the party, bitches! xx

    I’m going to see if Mirage has a web cam.

    (Oh God I need a life)

    • dumberries says:

      @Boston, it’s appropriate that she’ll be at the Mirage – story of her life…

      • vilzvet says:

        Well at least the latest docs are now on US Mag’s website, so the word is getting out. For the life of me I cannot understand WHO in their right mind who spend money on her book, no matter how well it was written by the co-author, to put in Teresa’s pocket at this point.

  90. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Iron Chef America looks to be scooping up some Top Chef contestants. Richard Blais (sp?) is on Cat Cora’s side and Ed from this season is working with the challenger. Just a bit of an FYI.

  91. because1 says:

    Please someone tell me when did Jac get to be such a bad-ass?Andy had to hold her back
    from going to jump Danielle!Teresa has taught her well!It is said that you run with a pack
    of rabid dogs,you’ll wind up in the pound with fleas.Jac has a lot of nerve calling Dan garbage,
    her looking like an over-weight transvestite.Thanks for calling fans that don’t say favorable
    things about you ignorant!You’re the IGNORANT ONE because you’re on a reality show!
    Please stop commenting about Dan’s daughters,they are beautiful,well mannered and are
    doing everything right. What can you say about Ashley? Now we know wher she got all the
    hatefulness and meaness from.You had better be careful yelling and moving your lips too
    much because that thick layer of BOTOX is going to slide right off your face to the floor.
    If anybody knows, where is Jacs other daughter? Ashley was born in 1990 and the other
    daughter Jaclyn was born in 1995.How come we don’t heat anything about her??????????

  92. Wall St Lady says:

    Giuseppe Giudice

  93. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    My part 2 to my Teresa breakdown is the whole financial fiasco. This past season we see her spending, even after they filed bankruptcy, with abandon and having no conscience of how she was going to pay for it all. Teresa claims that she knew nothing of how bad her finances were. Fine. Let’s take that at face value. They filed bankruptcy on October 22nd of last year and she would have had to sign the papers/see a lawyer way before that time. So after that time she KNEW her finances. What do we the viewer see:

    1. Gia’s birthday party full of excess. Even if the limo and such are donated that ATV had to be paid for. Yet we know that it’s part of the bankruptcy.
    2. No way should they have gone to Italy. Even if Bravo paid for the trip what about all the shopping there? Like Teresa would not buy something.
    3. The constant joke that Teresa is always shopping. “Teresa is either on her way to the mall, at the mall or coming back from the mall.” She has been late many times because she’s been shopping.
    4. Teresa shopping at Posche.
    5. Audriana’s excessive christening party. Seriously and ice sculpture.
    6. Dialect coaches for Gia. I’m sure it comes out of their pocket.
    7. Teresa’s excessive house warming party.
    8. We know that on the night of Joe’s DUI they were out to dinner with Jacq, Chris and Tamra Barney. Why going out to dinner when you owe $11 million???

    Again, just off the top of my head. So as much as Teresa claims “I didn’t know” she knew after October 22nd and STILL spent to her hearts content.

  94. Wall St Lady says:

    Boston2 & I never herd of another daughter. What is your source jac has another daughter

  95. Wall St Lady says:

    We welcome guests until they soil our carpet like an untrained dog. If they chew on furniture we put them in the yard.
    We know crap when we see it.

  96. boston02127 says:

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  97. Wall St Lady says:


    • Sha2000 says:


  98. Wall St Lady says:

    Everybody must b going to bed early to rest up for toworrows NJ reunion.

  99. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Joe “IusedtotosspizzasnowItossmycellmatessalad” Guidice

  100. Sherry says:

    I just found this great blog! Anyone know why Danielle was fired?

    lillybee, I have a greyhound too 🙂

  101. Sherry says:

    I’m glad I found this site. I can’t stand most of these housewives (always liked Bethenny) yet I watch the shows. It burns me up that people like Teresa and Joe screw the hard working people who did worked on their home, yet flaunt their spending on frivolous crap.

    Yet I watch the show, which makes me mad at myself. I feed into the whole rewarding people for bad behavior by giving them ratings as a viewer. I read the Bravo website blogs, and I got sick of seeing all these people posting the different housewives how much they love them and admire them. ????????? I just cringe.

    I would love to know why Danielle was really fired (her creepy body guards?), what the real story is behind Teresa’s cussing meltdown about the nephew (I’m thinking that Joe cheated), why Dina really left (don’t know but it’s not because of stress over Danielle), and WHY don’t these women see how utterly foolish, embarrassingly bad, dumb, (I could go on) they look? Is being on tv, and the money, is it really that good that they’ve sold their selfish souls to do it? Or are they actually that stupid?

    I wish Bravo would start a franchise of the Real Husbands of NYC, etc. If they want to exploit the worst in people, why do they only exploit the worst women?

    Sorry for the rant 🙂
    I have a lot of reading to catch up on here. Wall Street Lady, thanks for the insight on the different types of women in NYC.

  102. So I’m watching Nancy Grace for the second time tonight and she’s talking about a missing woman from NJ who was ALREADY FOUND!! Before I watched it the first time.
    Even though I took 2 Tylenol Pms©, a crazy hot-flash woke me up.
    I have ANOTHER! Exclusive posted on my blog!
    It is so crazy, I don’t know if it could possibly be true or not. Warning, it is a possible spoiler, in case this is what is said in the last ten minutes that Andy said is” jaw-dropping”. But, I think I found Danielle. http://www.njhousewives.blogspot.com
    Oh yeah, and some Asian twin designers are saying that Bravo will be taping at their fashion show this weekend for NJ & NY Housewives.
    They mentioned, Alex, Jackie, and Caroline.-so, I guess they are all, “safe”

  103. http://therealtwinsofnyc.blogspot.com/ that’s the link to the twins page that has the press-release about Bravo & The NJ & NY Housewives. They keep adding stuff-I like the photo of Caroline. The post about Bravo is under the photos.

    • Diana says:

      Great, now it gets even uglier with “twincest” marketers making the scene. Arrgh! What is next? Wait..don’t answer that.

  104. Diana says:

    I will try again, as no one seemed to care earlier, though I assume it got lost in all of the other yummy gossip. Here is Jac’s latest tweet. And as I said earlier, I wonder how long this will last. Now I’m really curious what made her go quiet. See below:

    I need time to organize & sort some things out & make important decisions. Taking time away for a while to be with my kids and Hubby. XOXO!

    • Well–it has been reported that she is being taped for Bravo next weekend. Maybe there is a rule that they stay off Twitter?
      I just went through this page top-to-bottom, and I saw some new stuff from yesterday(???) I just saw the crazy paranoid Tweets that Jaq. posted about weird phone calls, maybe she’s faking a crack-up?
      In other news, the fake/or real @petiteposie has posted a new avatar photo.

      • Had Enough! says:

        My skeptical mind (fancy name for BS detector) is saying that there are a couple of possibilities here. First – Mrs. Gorilla and a friend or two are behind this. Second – Mr. Gorilla is trying to persuade Mrs. Gorilla that there is no Tara and he’s set this up to distract her and make her believe him. Third – some random (or not so random) frenemy of IHJZ/LynnNChicago is behind it.

        The odds that this is real are virtually nil. It would mean this chick wants to be outed and get in T’s face. Would YOU ever want to get in T’s face?

        • flippy says:

          At one point she accepted my request to view her twitter page and later “she” blocked me. Some time later yesterday afternoon she changed her avatar and she had TweetM****** (she who shall not be fully named) following her. By yesterday evening TM was no longer following her. Guess she got blocked as well. I also requested Beppe5 allow me to view that twitter page and have had no response. Still calling shenanigans.

  105. Diana says:

    And finally, unless I’m not seeing it, someone should post the findings from Lynn’s blog here. Get the word out!!! You are all amazing sleuths here.


  106. Need a Hobby says:

    Pics of Matt Holmes (Jac’s ex) & daughter Ashley: http://starcasm.net/archives/58934

  107. Had Enough! says:

    Newark Star Ledger finally caught on:


    (Don’t these reporters bother to cruise the blogs? Surely they must know by now that bloggers can sometimes get the news first?)

    Unfortunately she credits RadarOnline and not us.

    • Ellabean says:

      The first comment under this article was made by “THETaraG”.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Yup, that’s how it works now. I’ve been debating on a political blog on & off for a few years (they must be wondering where I am since I’ve been here lol); the many of “talking points” that you hear them talking about from the various political cough-cough “experts” are from the discussions/debate/arguments that partisanship naturally breeds on the boards. In fact there are politicians that have what we call columns there too besides the rest of us…they get a good gauge of whats really being said because they are in the thick of it. In fact Chuck Todd uses his to get questions from the public. Now I guess blogs are part of the research; a “roving reporter” is now frequenting the blogs.

  108. Had Enough! says:

    Wow. It is on the ABC news, too. They are crediting US magazine. Oh well.

  109. boston02127 says:

    Good morning.
    Happy Birthday Sha2000. Hope you have a great day! 🙂

  110. boston02127 says:

    9:00 (ABC) Live With Regis and Kelly: reality star Bethenny Frankel

    10:00 / 2:00 The Wendy Williams Show: Reality stars Caroline Manzo, Jacqueline Laurita and Teresa Giudice.

    • vilzvet says:

      That WW show was taped one day last week I believe, so was it before or after Teresa was aware of the forthcoming new docs? Let’s see what her mood will be…she was sure cranky on the Today Show.

  111. Had Enough! says:

    T as a little girl:


    Bet there was linoleum on that floor!

    • vilzvet says:

      Looks like Milania does now…

      • Sha2000 says:

        Wow, good find! But who gives a toddler a knife to pose with even for a second? A cake cutter-thingie would have made more sense!
        The picture that made me laugh was this one linked w/the balloon:


        • Had Enough! says:

          HBTY Sha2000!

          I’ll bet anything if Little T had whined to her mother “I didn’t want an eat party” her mother would have walloped her one.

          On second thought, apparently not. She apparently never tried to teach Little T anything resembling manners or correct her behavior. This “I’m entitled” shit didn’t come from nowhere.

          But she should have walloped her one.

          (OK before everyone screams about child abuse, you know I am kidding. Though we were spanked every now and again and a whack on the bottom didn’t seem to do us any harm, physically or emotionally. I don’t go around whacking people or spanking them).

          • Sha2000 says:

            Lol, I flashed on me putting on a dress, sitting on the table W/my bday cake today ala T’s baby pick…it can be my gravatar, lol. Thank you for the birthday wishes…have a great day too!

  112. Had Enough! says:

    Boy it has been QUIET since JillZee went Down Under. Blissfully quiet. Think we can persuade them to keep her?

    I’m not a big fan of LuAnn but I have to give her credit where it is due. She doesn’t run around sticking her face in front of every camera on the planet unlike JillZee and her trained Sasquatch and she seems to know that having a private life is important and she seems to enjoy her private life.

    Ditto Sonja. The one thing that will keep me watching RHONYC is Sonja. Maybe. I just can’t bear the thought of watching the Sasquatch. I was so grateful to Ramona for that imitation of Kelly at the Kodak party. About time someone called the Sasquatch on her BS. Bethenny can’t do it because she tries to use logic. Only Ramona, who thank heavens has no control over her mouth (sometimes) could pull this off.

    • Sherry says:

      I’m done with RHNYC. I just cannot take watching one more minute of mean Jill, train wreck Kelli, or even Lu Ann who acts like she is so far above everyone else–I’m a countess I’m a countess that means I am high society and I look down at you little people.

      Alex is tolerable, Sonya is tolerable, and Ramona has moments of being tolerable. Not enough to counteract the crappy ones. I was done with that show when it came out that Jill tried to get the others not to film with Bethenny. Nasty.

  113. Had Enough! says:

    How classy is Sonja?

    “I’m sure Ramona wasn’t going to be in the Hampton’s if that is what she said. http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/host_switch_YGtPCM2cOVOeRoXRJsoxMJ Peace House Africa. Education for Tanzanian orphans to work in Tanzania.”

    The article says, “Ramona Singer promised to host the Colors of Hope Hamptons Gala for AIDS Ophans in Africa today in Water Mill, but she backed down after organizers repeatedly tried to reach the “Real Housewives of NYC” star. Her assistant responded to organizers two weeks ago with a slew of excuses why she wouldn’t be in the Hamptons. But when it was announced Thursday that her castmate Sonja Morgan agreed to step in as a host, Singer called minutes later to ask to be added to the guest list. Singer told us she never agreed to host: “It’s wrong. I never lie. I say it straight.”

  114. Wall St Lady says:

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  115. boston02127 says:

    I wonder if Teresa and her brother get along, if they talk? I also wonder if the only reason Teresa can’t stand his wife is jealousy. I’m guessing there is more behind it. I wonder if Melissa and Teresa knew each other when they were younger. Does anyone know their age diffrence?

    • Olivia says:

      Teresa is 38. SIL is reported to be 31.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        don’t forget Boston…Melissa produced a son (actually 2). That’s very important in the Italian heritage. Chewbaca tried 4x and failed. That’s gotta sting

  116. Olivia says:

    Barring the tons of Botox, a good bet that Danielle is smiling the best that she can muster.

    Karma is a bitch but it couldn’t happen to a “nicer couple”.

  117. Sherry says:

    I don’t believe someone called Jacqueline in the middle of the night about Danielle. ROFL. She just needs attention and doesn’t know how else to get it. Just like on the reunion show, she didn’t have anything the show could give her much airtime about, so she all the sudden tried to be the other mean girl.

    Jac, I know you are but a few steps up the smarts ladder from Teresa, but I’m sure you can come up with something other than Danielle to get attention.

    Yet another example of the inability to see how ridiculous they look. And the apple didn’t fall far from the tree either. Ashley is such a mess just like mom.

    Who wants to grab the phone to Twitter when they feel genuinely threatened in the middle of the night? Not for documentation. That’s a laugh. A police report is documentation. Twittering it is needing attention.

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  119. karenne says:

    Hi to you all!!!! I have watched all the RH shows, from day one of the OC, ATL, NYC, NJ, and all seasons. Were in the DC rendition….but, they are just boring to me.
    After finally finishing RHONJ, then Bravo puts on RHODC? right away? bad choice.
    I might not like any of the housewives….but I watch the shows, so at least NJ was over the top, worth discussing and laughing about and such. Plus, much Pondering….I like that…is there a Tara, are they truly broke, or hiding money? are the Manzo’s really connected, or just Italian? anyway…I’ve been reading blogs for about a year, and at first, I only read the Bravo blog because I didnt know these existed!! Love each and every one of you! truly, you are funny and I love how each different personality, pens itself and adds so much, to one another, creating a FANTASTIC blog!!! But, that is my
    problem….been watching the RH’s since OC, Season One. But still trying to figure out the system here…I do follow some on Twitter, but forgive me if I spell or incorrectly “say” your name…Devlove sp? she shrinks them into personality disorders…which to me, is really great! then, RealHouseWives too….seems to have alot of info…and YouPutYourHairUp….too long? pretty blonde in sunglasses…who tweets and blogs RH and also is connected to you all, or to some….
    I’ve just spent the last couple hours, reading and trying to figure out how this works…
    So many blogs, so can someone clue me in?

    So far, it seems as if LynnChicago is the original blogger about the RH’s.
    then, came along “the real housewives”
    Where does “realoldhousewife” fit in?
    blog, right?

    In other words, I’m trying to figure this out because I dont even know how I got to this message board…link from ???? the Housewife in Mannatee?????
    Now that I”m here, I just must find the “family tree” or the page you visit to all chat.
    I enjoy this so much….and I agree with some other people, this page/messzage board is more interesting than the shows sometimes….haha

    I dont know if this will even reach anyone, due to todays RL date and the last date on the blog message board….
    When it comes to Teresa’s behavior, as far as screaming at Danielle, acting all in love with Joe, saying sex daily etc…..*not the grifter aspect*…..
    I’ve lived in the Mediterranean and I saw that all the time.
    Like, I had to learn a different “normal” to understand why everyone was so mean, so passionate, so underhanded, so backstabbing, so emotional over the top emotional.
    It was explained, to me that basically Life in that part of the world is a Pissing Contest, over everything.
    the example was given: if three brothers go into business together, they open the restaurant, and they have equal shares. From Day One….each brother is trying to become Number One, and eventually the ONLY owner, after having pushed his brothers out….Now, he is respected by the whole family as the strongest one.
    Even respected by the two brothers he screwed over!
    not liked maybe….but respected for sure…and they won’t go against him in any future dealings. So, if something comes up, they will lie for him, without thinking twice.
    Its different than the American way of thinking, and I lived there for over a year so I had to learn it, and I understand it now, but I do not live by that cultures values.
    My point in adding this is because although the RHONJ people are all crass and different, than other areas of the country…If you take the mindset of Teresa, and add her upbringing by two people, from Italy who barely still speak English….her behavior of “the pissing contest” makes sense, even with Caroline who considers herself the one to be RESPECTED…we saw T. coming back at her, blogging a few “oh gee, with twenty people you cant expect a honeymoon vacation”. giving her excuse as to leaving the kids with the Manzo’s. Teresa is really Old School Italian, and the rest of the cast is Not.
    In Italy, family does that.
    In America, they learn not to do that in front of others anymore.
    Its all about the culture, not about how right or wrong.
    Plus, how they look at money matters, is very different than we do…..or as Italians that have become Americanized….and know how we think….
    In my opinion, based on what I’ve lived through in my life, I think Teresa never became as Americanized, as many other Italians, or folks from that area.
    I am not saying, that Italians arent polite, they are!!
    They Love to party and they love to work…they really have that balance, that as Americans we could learn from. We work work work, and dont have enough fun!!
    I am not putting her down, or trying to stick up for her….
    But…In the culture she grew up in…”didnt learn to speak english until Kindergarten”, in Patterson N.J….I think she screamed that at DD….in the Country club, No?
    Well…that has a rough edge….Patterson does.
    and she was letting DD know exactly how rough she could be….
    another Italian Pissing contest…that she knew she could win…..after all, she had “family” behind her, and so far so good.
    but chasing her down the hall, is where it works ONLY in Italy….think Village…chasing and throwing rocks at your husbands goomah. GEt Outa Here you Prostiture Whore!
    throw rock throw rock….
    ladies…I’ve seen it…there.
    when I saw T on TV here….I laughed. Oh no…hahahahah….just like the old days!!!
    Ya mean they still live like that????hhahahahahaha
    Then, I found the blogs..and started reading….and my mind jumped back into American Mode….oh yeah….we dont do that. Considered tacky…..hmmmmmm?
    the money aspect?
    the girlfriends of Juicy?
    I gotta tell you, I know…I think I know….what thats about.
    Not whether he has a girlfriend….s…..
    But what T would really think about that..
    and why they spend money that way….
    and dont get it.
    They’ve never caught on to American Thinking.
    If you went to speak to their old friends, from school days…
    I bet you’d find the same thing.
    her brother and SIL….a Pissing Contest.
    and let me tell you…NO daughter, wants to come in second place in anything, when it comes to her SIL….in Italy.
    its odd…the daughter can love her brother, but he usually has been aggressive and mean to her….they can slap their sisters btw….if no one is around to discipline them…means slapping them in face first….American women, we have it good compared to other cultures!
    anyhoo…she NO way, wants her brother to marry a beautiful woman.
    She wants to remain the most beautiful….in the family.
    when you are an inlaw, you become a slave….or you have to earn your way in….for example, the cookies comment by T to her SIL.
    she wasnt letting her earn a thing at that holiday.
    if you are mean….and emotional…..and fake…..and you add that to a different way of thinking….than American….her foundation is so different, that we will never understand her in the light we see from, but only from the light she knows…and that is the Italian Old School Mindset.

    sorry…but I’m sure some of you are Italian, and have lived overseas etc etc
    But did you live, in a village?
    Or if you are Italian, and have that wonderful Italian Love the Family thing….God Bless you cuz me, I’m white bread boring and I only wish I had that.
    and for that, I can see why some do not like Caroline being so bossy.
    she may not speak Italian….I couldnt believe she admitted that on camera….
    but She still has that Big Italian Family Pissing contest in her….so do her kids.
    but it seems to me, that they are losing it….or have no more than any other siblings of any other heritage.
    I love studying and learning other cultures…because without that, how can we truly understand how the world thinks, and will react?
    The world tries to understand us too…and react accordingly….
    I think some people just need to learn, like Teresa and Juicy joe…ewwww….that if they live here, they go by the laws…and thats that.
    and they learn to get a grip and be nice…
    forget the pissing contests and it isnt the LOUDEST women who refuses to back down..that wins….
    that kind of stuff.
    Just my two dollars worth….

    But I am trying to figure this all out…cuz I love the Blogs about the RH’s and I love your funny, snarky comments…you have made me Snort with laughter many a time…its just that I cant seem to find the Main Place you all hang….
    and I would really like to….
    I’m not a jill/maxine…..
    no way.
    Team Bethanny all the way….even though….no one is innocent in any of these shows….

    Can you give me a leg up on how to keep in touch ????
    and who is who, or who hates who?
    hahaha someone hates Jill we know that by the name….but where do I find her?
    I have NO Idea….like I said, I found you by a link.

    thexxgirlss on twitter

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