I Hate Jill Zarin Housewives News / Rachel Zoe Finale / Flipping Out

I Hate Jill Zarin Rachel Zoe Project – Finale Housewives News Sept 22, 2010

*** Guest blogs for Flipping Out coming soon

Rachel Zoe Guest Blog by Maria Teresa:

The RZP finale was in general more of the same we saw in last week’s episode: Rodger drama, Brad drama, Rachel’s stress and not so much styling or fashion.

I personally was very disappointed. I think this season was two episodes too long. Like past seasons it should have ended with the Oscar’s ceremony, instead they dragged us through two episodes of made up drama, having everybody making stupid statements about Rachel’s personal life.

The finale starts with a fast recap of the entire season, followed by more Brad drama, just in case we forgot about it J. This time is all about how he feels suffocated with so much work, that he hasn’t have a break in a year .. sniff sniff poor baby!!! But an entire year? Let’s see.. award ceremony season is in March and the Met Gala is in May, am I missing something?

Rachel is asked to style model Ginta Lapina for a photo shoot a lo Brigitte Bardot for an English publication called Love Magazine. Meanwhile Brad is all over the place with an attitude doing the usual, complaining, this time about Rachel, and that the entire team needs a break. He says he would like to take a cab and leave. He questions if he is becoming Taylor. Maybe Brad thinks that if there is no more material for drama he can bring up Taylor as a back up J.

Rachel goes to New York to prepare for the Metropolitan Museum Costume Institute Gala. Zoe is not only styling four of her clients but is also attending as a guest of her good friend Marc Jacobs.

While talking about her choices for her clients to Rodger he decides to ignore her and act like a six year old brat arguing that he is completely tired about fashion. Really? Either Rodger thinks we are all dumb or he is definitely in the wrong business.

Then Rachel decides since Rodger doesn’t want to speak to her, to pick up a couple of lattes and wake up Brad in his room for a company meeting … in bed. I think the scene was supposed to be somehow funny.

The episode goes on to several meetings between Tammy (Rachel’s sister) and Joey (Rachel’s hairstylist) and Tammy and Rachel … to discuss, guess what, Rachel’s lifestyle!

Rachel and Brad meet with Anne Hathaway. It was a short but sort of fun meeting. No baby talk, no lifestyle analysis.

Then back in the hotel, Rachel styles Rachel. She has a choice of two Marc Jacobs dresses, both, in my opinion too big and too puffy for her size and body shape, looks like the dress carries her and not the other way around. She decides for a velvet mustard dress. The color totally flatters her but the dress was designed for somebody a lot taller.

Rachel’s four clients look stunning; Anne Hathaway in a champagne Valentino, Kate Hudson in a sexy Stella McCarthy, Eva Mendes in Dolce Gabbana and Demi Moore in a gunmetal Michael Kors. Job well done girl!!!

Back in LA and after analyzing her own life, Rachel schedules an appointment with an OBG. Rodgers acts surprised, excited and confused about Rachel’s decision.

To make the story short, the following minutes of the episode are more of the same, Rodger arguing about how serious Rachel is about having a baby, Rachel explaining that she is afraid, Rodger saying that she needs to change her lifestyle, blah blah blah, then, while continuing the argument back at home, Rachel puts on her big sunglasses runs to the balcony and Rodger in the best telenovela style runs to her, and in the middle of a beautiful sunset he takes her in his arms and Rachel says that they are meant to be parents and it will happen. The only thing missing was the violin music and the word FIN.

I truly believe that when the RZP team decided to put this season together they thought that bringing up a common conflict of some career women into the screen as a made-up drama will get them more viewers. Maybe in paper it seemed like a great idea, who knows. The truth is that is made a very boring awkward season.

I hope if there is a season four that they will focus more on styling and less acting.
Thank you Maria for a great blog!!

Danielle Staub just will not go away, she’s been all over the news throughout the season of The Real Housewives of New Jersey and although the season is history, her name continues to come up all over the internet and even Access Hollywood, The Soup and E! News have been reporting on Danielle’s life. Her new show on Wealth TV, her car was repossessed her Bravo income has been seized and she’s into several different legal battles, the latest headlines all grab her quote, “Don’t call me a slut!”

http://celebritynews.netii.net/danielle-staub-dont-call-me-a-slut/

http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/22/danielle-staub-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-kevin-maher-ex-husband-defamation-lawsuit/

TMZ has released the most interesting excerpts from Caroline Manzo’s deposition in the case between Danielle Staub and her ex-husband, Kevin Maher. Caroline’s testimony is damming for Danielle, confirming that Danielle was indeed claiming that Maher abused her. The problem for Maher is he not only needs to prove that Danielle said these things, he has to prove that it is all lies and that it has negatively affected his reputation. TMZ has posted a new document that has been filed in the case on behalf of Danielle Staub, from TMZ:

“According to the new docs, obtained by TMZ, Staub wants to make sure any evidence depicting her as “a prostitute, or a slut, or a whore” — including her sexual history and sex tape — is excluded from the trial. “

Good luck with all of this mess Danielle! Yikes!

RadarOnLine has more about the Simon and Tamra Barney incident.

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Real Housewives Of OC Star Tamra Barney To File Restraining Order Against Husband | Radar Online <a href=”http://bit.ly/9jbjTE”>http://bit.ly/9jbjTE

The Real Housewives of Orange County are filming for Bravo right now so it’s no surprise that we’re seeing some legal drama coming out of that area, it wouldn’t be a Bravo Real Housewives season without some legal issues, right?

The assumption is that Tamra filed a restraining order against her soon-to-be ex-husband with her boyfriend at her side. The couple refuses to comment in the video so basically the “Exclusive video” is Tamra and beau Eddie walking into the courthouse, and then walking out, silent.

Tamra tweeted this just moments ago:

TamraBarney some of you have reported that Simon Barney is on my fan page. he has me blocked so I can not see him. can you…

Us Magazine reports that we will see a new face on The Real Housewives of NY and that it’s Cindy Barshop, a spa owner and single mom to baby twin girls. Bravo hasn’t confirmed the report, but Ramona Singer alluded to a “new girl coming on” who is “very happy with herself” in a recent interview. Ramona also doesn’t promise not to argue with the new girl. That’s our Ramona!

Still no word on a legal filing response from Teresa and Jailbird Joe on the missing information, er lies on their original bankruptcy documents. Teresa is tweeting like everything is grand in the Giudice household, not a mention of missing her husband or any conjugal visits, nothing! Will Joe serve the full 10-days in jail that he was sentenced to? Good behavior and overcrowding apparently may get him an early release.

@Teresa_Giudice are you going to come to Canada for any book signings? Maybe Montreal?? ❤ ❤

Apparently some delusional fans don’t know that felons can’t travel outside of the US. (yes, it’s a joke)

Kim Granatell has become a Twitter queen and has been tweeting such outrageous things that many questioned if it was really her, now that the season is over she certainly hasn’t held back, after many tweets attacking Teresa (confirmed to be Kim on the reunion episode) she’s now attacking Danielle for stealing her idea of calling Teresa an “Ape”. Funny stuff!

@Kimgranatell Danielle always a liar & now a THIEF!! stole my idea about Theresa looking like an ape. See one of my old “Tweets” way back “Bright Eyes”
@Kimgranatell who wears “big” all wrong flowers over a fat ass and fake boobs??? call the Fashion Police, pleeeeease. & get a seat @ Fashion Week!!!!
@Kimgranatell Google “Planet of the Apes” (the movie), the character “Bright Eyes”, and guess who looks like her and has her forehead???
@Kimgranatell $8000 window treatments. My kitchen alone cost more that that. Must be Bed, Bath, & Beyond Specials.
@Kimgranatell I know my railings are staying in my house and no one is taking them away…MINE are paid 4.. Scamming ieventually catches up to u!

Kim’s having a lot of fun with Teresa! I find it interesting when Twitterer’s slam Kim for slamming Teresa, immediately after slamming Teresa themselves. I think it is the way that Kim is going about it, a little bit of advice for Kim, have fun slamming Teresa but leave your excessive wealth out of the picture.

As I mentioned yesterday, NeNe Leakes of the Atlanta Housewives has taken her tweets up a notch and seems to want more attention, she took little to no heat for her recommendation that a young girl kill herself, in fact, many tweeters found it funny. I did not!

@NeNeLeakes: OMG! Got up early & had my makeup done then off 2 my 9:30am Thursday morning meeting! Guess what? I’m the only 1 here! It’s Wednesday! Shit

@NeNeLeakes: Ok Nene take a step back, breath, take the damn high heels off, roll the window down cause I need so fresh air & move slowly n2 Wednesday

Many of you have already seen the newest parody of RHONY with Jill Zarin herself making a guest appearance, if you haven’t seen it yet, keep a bucket nearby:

@funnyshaffer If u haven’t seen enough of my chest hair & red lips… Check out the new RHONY Parody w/ special guest star @jillzarin http://bit.ly/9hrD8p

And then there’s Kelly….

kikilet @TeddyMcDonald bed bugs are a huge epidemic. crazy. are you scratching?
kikilet @sambamomma i hope you say ‘hi’ to me anytime. i ma always flattered when people come up and talk to me.
Kikilet just spent the last few hours with my best friend since i was 19. shes the best, and always gives sound advice. i need it. Oof

Let’s hope the sound advice of Kelly’s old friend resulted in her absence from Twitter today..

If you haven’t seen Bethenny’s new Bluefly.com ad that has been running on Bravo, it is really cute! It is actually longer than you see on Bravo, (she also goes through Bryn’s closet) you can see it in full here…

http://blueflyclosetconfessions.com/videos/bethenny_frankel

Bethenny was asked if she would ever consider doing Dancing With The Stars, here is her response:

@Bethenny: Actually bryn is doing:burping w the stars.jason:farting w the stars,cookie:barking w the stars.me:obsessing&organizing w the stars

@Bethenny: So the housekeeper just left&we spilled a bag of quinoa(tiny grain) EVERYWHERE!I may kill someone http://twitpic.com/2qggxj

Bethenny took a bit of shit for that tweet, let’s just say that she didn’t get a whole lot of sympathy.

Simon VanKempen continues to be active on Twitter:

@Simonvankempen: yned ro mrifnoc ton nac I RT @tweatcyn: @SimonvanKempen. Are you filming? Hold on, gonna be a bumpy ride I imagine.

Cute Simon, to save you the trouble, Simon answered this question by typing backwards, “I can not confirm or deny”.
Not really any need to confirm or deny when Simon also tweets this:

@Simonvankempen: ?og shtnom 4 txen eht lliw woH .snigeb nuf eht dnA (@ Mad 46) http://4sq.com/cZxnzl

“And the fun begins. How will the next 4 months go?” Obviously letting us know that filming has begun at Mad46 a club in NYC. The link is simply a map showing the location of Mad46.

@Simonvankempen: Every report I’ve read says she’s back. RT @Mandowie: @simonvankempen was alex really fired by bravo

And so filming for RHONY has begun as confirmed (or not) by Simon, always a wealth of information! Simon, Bravo executives may be dim, but I think they can decipher your secret coded message! LOL

@Simonvankempen Tks-more people shud read it 2 RT @SarahLee040: @SimonvanKempen @mccordalex Am 1/2 way done w/your book & can’t seem 2 put it down,its great

I agree, if you haven’t yet read Alex & Simon’s book yet, it is a great read!

The Rachel Zoe Project – the Finale

Rachel has a stressful job, there isn’t anyone questioning that but this is what she chose to do with her life. While she says she loves doing it, I don’t see any real joy in this woman at all.

Bravo likes to manipulate viewers and I don’t think that it’s an accident that we haven’t seen Rachel Zoe put one thing in her mouth all season resulting in rumors of her unhealthy eating habits. There simply has to be footage of her eating at some point. Following her around for months the way that they do, editing out any scenes of Rachel having lunch or eating a meal with her husband was not by mistake. Clearly she would be hospitalized if all of the rumors of an eating disorder were true.

The big question of the series, will Rachel have a baby? The series was filmed several months ago and Rachel appeared in many photos during fashion week just days ago, I think we have our answer. No luck so far!

Rachel’s put-upon assistant Brad continued to moan and complain about his fabulous job that thousands of fashion enthusiasts would kill to have. He asks viewers if he’s become Taylor, the answer to that is a resounding, yes! I think I counted two episodes in which Taylor’s name wasn’t mentioned.

Stay tuned later today for a fantastic guest blog on Rachel Zoe’s finale episode.

Flipping Out

Jeff Lewis showed a softer side and presented his housekeeper Zoila with a brand new car!

Luckily we have a great surprise guest blogger for Flipping Out, the guest blogs will be posted later today. I promise to get them out as soon as I receive them!

I’m in the process of moving all of my old blogs that were originally published on Hubpages, but have been locked down, over to the Blogspot site, I’m including all of the great comments with each blog. I hope you’ll hop over and take a look. More posted daily. Thanks!

http://lynnnchicago.blogspot.com/

Last but certainly not least, I want to wish a VERY Happy Birthday to someone who is a regular contributor to IHJZ but is way more than a contributor to me, she’s an amazing, intelligent, loving friend, who I am honored to have met through this crazy site! Had Enough! Happy Birthday, I love you!

Until Next Time…..

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532 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Housewives News / Rachel Zoe Finale / Flipping Out

  1. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Wall St. Lady,

    Okay, here is the deal. The poster that was calling you out (NYC or whatever) does not matter. I will admit, I would never be able to figure out who you “really” are, I am just a small town gal in Ohio, with no real knowledge of “power players”. I am not rich, and will never be. I am a 42 year old step mom, wife, care taker of my elderly father in law, home maker (recent development as I was laid off from my job) student (going back to school so I can get a job in health care and hopefully will never be laid off again!) who struggles to make sure I stretch the budget and keep the lights on and food in the dog bowls and on the table . Our worlds will never collide in the real life aspect of things.
    BUT, her on this blog, I appreciate your wit, sense of humor, and the joy you bring to us all. Your delight in simply conversing with everyone, and asking the questions that you do,which have allowed us all to learn a bit more about each other on a personal basis is wonderful. You are appreciated by me, not because of the life style you lead, but for your personal attributes. I don’t give a damn about where you sat in a fashion show, or if you know Donald Trump (although I do enjoy a bit of vicarious living through your posts sometimes ) What I love about you is just YOU! So for the ones who want to try and find some detail that they can try and use to say you are not all you claim to be, I say “Wall St. Lady is EXACTLY who she claims to be—a funny, caring woman with a joy that is infectious, and a wit that is appreciated.” What more does any one need?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Dutchess, VERY well said and mirrored by many of us, I’m sure, including me!!! We love you WSL, no matter who you pretend to be! HAHAHA (I know you’re the real deal)

      Trust me folks, you can’t make this shit up, she’s the real deal!

      • Anniieee says:

        I enjoy reading your posts WSL–they make me snort, laugh–need to use the bathroom and very happy. Love living vicariously thru your life. Keep them coming…we all love you and your great wit!! ((((((HUGS)))))))

      • Buffywood says:

        I agree Dutchess and yet again your words do much for justice then mine could… but (yes there is a but), now I am beginning to feel a little bit like the only person at a wedding who doesn’t know the bride is pregnant with the best man’s child. There is like a big “secret” out there that I guess I am just not smart enough to figure out. No worries though as I will still enjoy the party.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I think we all know on the internet that anyone can pretend to be anyone ( anyone hear of the story Talhotblond)- but we are all adults here- no one is investing money or really putting themselves out there. No harm- no foul

        Even if WSL is just an internet persona (but I am just as happy and content to beleive she is who she says she is) I am still entertained and enjoy the riddles. I don’t see anything to be gained by trying to discredit her.

    • nit-wit says:

      Duchess you are beautiful!
      WSL I too am living vicariously through your words and enjoying it.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Well said, Duchess. 🙂

    • The Buzz says:

      That was a beautiful post, Duchess. WSL is delightful, no matter “who” she is !

    • KK says:

      What did I miss?

      • Tootsie says:

        Me too. What did we miss? I gather WSL is someone of importance who knows people of importance. A poster must have been unkind to WSL calling her a phoney? Well, who the hell cares if she is or not? Lynn says she is important and that is good enough for me. We aren’t having a contest here, we’re gabbing and gossiping, that’s the important stuff.

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          yes, on the previous blog someone tried to “call out” WSL on some obscure details, then actually told her they knew she was a phoney and that she was a laughingstock for this person and their friends.

          • Savannah111 says:

            I use to come over and read everyone’s posts before I started posting and I would either do one of 2 things or both, I would always laugh out loud, or say wow this is information that explains a lot and a lot more that I didnt know! Certainly WSL is among those people that post on a regular basis that I would always read and find that they made me laugh out loud and to be very informative. I think she’s great.

    • Savannah111 says:

      This is off the subject of the topic at hand today/tonight, so It will be short.
      I just wanted to apologize to Mary for my postings, actually early early this morning that was part of yesterday’s blogs in regards to spelling. I should have stopped and read things through a lot more than I did. I woke up not able to sleep last night and started reading some of the posts at 3:00ish in the morning and just got alittle defensive I really do apologize and hope there are no hard feelings. I’m usually not that vocal and negative with other posters unless I watch Teresa or Jill and a few other reality personalities I have no use for… 🙂

      • Buffywood says:

        Savannah First, I really just wanted to tell you how much I love that name. Had my son been a girl he would have been Savannah or Shelby. Second, I really don’t know what you are apologizing for but with such sincere words how could you not be forgiven. I hope you sleep well tonight!

        • Savannah111 says:

          Thanks Buffy I hope Mary comes back, it wasnt to awful bad it was just she seemed to be really picking on bad spelling from someone and it took me going back to read when I got home today that she was really kind of pointing out a letter that was sent to Andy Cohen. I took it that she was just about checking all the posts and I’m thinking OMG well when she gets to mine she’ll have a big time because I know that I make mistakes.
          I just wasnt fair to her at all and I should have read exactly what she was actually commenting about. I jumped to quickly.

          • 201MaryF says:

            Dear S:

            I’m still here. I accept your apology and please don’t lose any more sleep.

            You seem like a very nice person, and we have all had our “moments” here.

            So let’s just enjoy this blog and move on.

            • Savannah111 says:

              Thanks Mary I feel a lot better 🙂 🙂

              • 201MaryF says:

                I’m glad, and at the end of the comments there are some really funny before and after pics.

                Some great stuff. Thanks to Boston, I think it is, who finds all of it.

    • Ione says:

      I agree with above…..enjoy WSL very much. I actually think I know who she is but my lips are sealed. It is fun reading about the activities of the rich and famous! That is why I started watching the Real Housewives on TV. I thought the shows were about rich people mingling with the famous people, especially the New York housewives. Boy, was I wrong.

      Anyway, love to read WSL’s comments.

      • Savannah111 says:

        I also thought that too, but out of the New York ladies isnt Ramona and her very wealthy? I know they seem to have a very large apartment and they have a nice house in the Hamptons I’m assuming they own…

        I don’t think Jill is that rich but I think her husband is wealthy. I don’t even think Sonya Morgan is not now she may use to have it but I don’t think she lives like she used to live when she was married.

        My girl Bethenny who I do adore and was always my favorite this young lady is on her way and one day I do believe she will be very very well off. She has so much going for her and she so smart she knows what she needs to do to take it to the next level and I have no doubt she’ll get there her and awesome little family they’ll be able to write their own ticket.

  2. Olivia says:

    And these Housewives series are built around who and what exactly?

    1. A bankrupt couple from NJ where the husband is now currently in jail for driving without a license to name one of his transgressions.

    2. Another warring ex couple in CA fighting over a dog.

    3. An ex stripper, coke whore, ho bag fighting with her ex in “defamation suit”.

    4. Another couple in DC who have been outed as grifters and deadbeats.

    5. A 55 yr old woman with plenty of money who spends her day Twittering about another woman without a dime in her pocket.

    6. Another NY socialite charged with DUI whose disposition is unclear.

    7. Add in another NY “star” twittering about her hubby’s “farts”.

    8. A 19 yr old from NJ with no goals or purpose beyond “partying”.

    9. A “spiritual” wife who hates the haters.

    10. A hubby who finds it adorable to “tweet” backwards.

    Wow! The snark just writes itself.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Ok Number 7 is just hysterical! Love your posts Olivia!!!

      • Had Enough! says:

        Here’s a mystery. I have been married twice. Both times, not one tiny little toot, not one little whiff of methane prior to the wedding. Ten seconds after the wedding, the farting starts. Now I want to know – is it possible they were holding it in all those months? Is it like women start eating and gain weight after the wedding? Men start passing gas?

        My ex could have one a gold medal. We once drove by a landfill that had methane venters and we all thought the smell was coming from my then-husband. And he was enormously proud of that fact!

        • quincyil says:

          Well, what were you feeding them? I notice that the horses have more gas on pasture than in winter on hay.
          Maybe, they never ate veggies or salad and you……. served them nutritious foods.

        • Night Light says:

          Oh, I LOVE this post! My wonderful hubby pulled the same trick on me. I heard nothing before we married (he even held out during our year long engagement) but once those vows were finished he literally let it rip! Nobody heard but I had a Scooby reaction.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          OMG Had Enough, you are hysterical!!! I’ll bet most men say the same things about their wives… 🙂 hahaha

        • Savannah111 says:

          Had enough Happy Birthday 🙂
          I hope your doing something fun and exciting..

        • Adgirl says:

          You haven’t seen nothin till they try to light them.

        • oopsy says:

          Same here! Not one little toot! Then as soon as we are married…RRRIIIIPPPP!!! WTH?? He LAUGHS about it! It took me 12 years, I kid you not, to poot in front of him. I simply couldn’t do it. (Even when I tried in order to pay him back for ripping one then pulling the covers over my head.) I’m so over that.

        • Bea from NJ says:

          LOL! All the couple were having this same covo this past Sunday at my nephew’s bday party. We were all LOAO!

    • Adgirl says:

      Sounds just my life! Not yours? How dull. hahaha. kidding.

      • dreemz says:

        We’ve only been married 2 years, at 1st the farts were silent and less frequent, eh, I thought they might have slipped out by accident. The last 6 months or so it had gotten to the point where I expressed concern, thinking maybe he needed to see a GI doc because of the change. he said “Na, I’ve always been like this”. So, he managed to hold it in before we got married then gradually building up to now and I swear I think he holds it until he’s in the room standing right next to me! Now he walks around the house farting & belching so loud the neighbors can hear….neanderthal!

  3. butterisafruit says:

    I want to wish Had Enough, Amber, Ella Bean, Vilzet’s Daughter, Error 404, and all those I’ve neglected a wonderful birthday, even if it’s belated. I’m sorry I’ve been so behind.
    I give you a little wish for your special day…….

    May the wings of the butterfly kiss the sun.
    And find your shoulder to light on.
    To bring you luck, happiness and riches.
    Today, tomorrow and beyond.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Butterisafruit,

      Thank you so much for that beautiful post, it appears as though I’m also behind on some birthday wishes.

      I’m so sorry for those that I’ve not sent birthday wishes to…

      Amber, Elle Bean, Vilzet’s Daughter, Error 404 please accept my sincere apologies and very very happy birthday wishes!!!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Thank you that was lovely! And Happy Birthday to Error404, Had Enough and Vilzet’s Daughter also! Best Wishes!

      • vilzvet says:

        Thanks from my daughter. She had a nice birthday…we had to go to State Farm to collect her pain and suffering award from a wretched accident she was in in Jan. 2009. Broken pelvis, lost teeth, in a wheelchair for 3 months, home schooling, the works. I am glad to say she is 100 percent fine and attending school to earn a certificate in aesthetics, then plans to go away next year to continue studies in the medical field. The money she received will fully fund her education (thank God, don’t know how I would have done it!)

        • butterisafruit says:

          My word, she’s been through it all. I can’t imagine the pain of a broken pelvis is like. It’s one of those things that gives me the shivers. I’m so glad to hear she’s 100 percent. What a horrible ordeal for any young person to go through. And she’s fought through it all. A very special birthday indeed.

          • vilzvet says:

            Well, she’s just happy she can now buy a scratch-off lottery ticket! We always buying them around here…and thanks for the kind words.

  4. MoDee says:

    …bringing over from last blog…
    OT – I rarely comment, but I have a question for all the really insightful posters on here…did Simon from OC get arrested from Tamra pressing charges or did he just get held in jail because a call was made on domestic disturbance? I’ve been wondering that because of the disagreements that’s been going on in the LynFamily yesterday over abuse or not. Since my BIL is a county deputy in my state of MO, it’s common practice that when an officer is sent to a domestic disturbance case, someone is always taken into custody until everyone is calm or charges pending, usually the first person to get the call into the police is safe from jail. I’ve got my own opinion on the matter, but I’ll let that one slide so I won’t have to duck and cover.

    BTW, I don’t usually say too much because you ladies (and a few men) can voice my opinions probably better than myself.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Simon Barney was arrested and held on a $10,000 bond, last I’ve heard he has not yet made bond and remains in jail.

      • MoDee says:

        I guess time will tell whether she has legitimate charges that stick and he becomes an official felon. I’ve been of the belief that when you are held in jail there is always a bond set (that’s how you pay for your room and board, lol) I may be totally wrong on this, though. Thank you Lynn for your answer.

      • nancy says:

        Lynn Simon posted bail around 2:30 yesterday.

        • quincyil says:

          When you post bail, do you get the 10,000 dollars back?
          It seems like a lot of money when they have children to support.

          • MoDee says:

            If it’s like it is around here, you only put up 10% of the bond which would be $1,000 and your bail bondsman puts up the rest providing you make it to court and don’t jump bail.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          Thanks Nancy, I missed that update.

          • Savannah111 says:

            Lynn,
            In regards to Danielle Staub and her ex Mauhler
            I remember seeing a picture of him with a few of those NJ ladies when they met him for lunch, my question is this did they seek him out? Because his author of his book was there as well. My IMO is always be they were seeking to find out more info from his own mouth about Danielle or did he Mauher seek them out? Why would Caroline want to get herself caught up in all the mess. I mean for goodness sakes I understand they have a special hate going on for this woman but personally I wouldn’t go there let him fight it out with Danielle period I’m sure she probably told stories to other people. Now Caroline can thank herself for being one of the ones that have a hand in Danielle’s childrens misfortune when it comes to their mother.. I dont agree with how she lived her life then and I’m sure I wouldnt agree with it now, but I don’t hate her.. Why would Caroline even bother getting caught up in it, the other ones aren’t testifing for him… Caroline really is holding a grudge but it’s one that doesnt just hurt Danielle it hurts others her children I think its really unfair to her kids and I think that may be the reason Jaqualine may not have wanted to do it and well Teresa her testimony wouldnt hold up with the lies she’s been caught in not to mention having to get on the stand if testimony was giving from a courtroom stand, she’ll be there herself soon enough.

  5. Jacks says:

    Hands down my favorite line from Flipping Out last night was when Jeff said when buying Zoila her new car “I think nobody saw that there like 100 strings attached”..that cracked me up!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      That was great, I did actually laugh at that line… too bad Jeff wasn’t kidding LOL

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        It made me laugh too. I love Jeff’s humor.

        • error404 says:

          Jeff has a sense of humor? I missed that.

          Oh, you mean like when he laughs when his dogs pee on his staff, or when he buys his maid a car and openly admits it’s just another way to control her, or when he says he wants his sister in law to sleep with the crew so that the work is better?

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I take it you are not a fan? That’s okay- I still think you rock 🙂

            I know he is flawed and sometimes intensive and belligerent. But I enjoy a bit of sarcastic or disguised humor sometimes- but then again…I am a Rabble Rouser.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              * insensitive and belligerent.

            • quincyil says:

              I think Zola working 11 years with no days off seems odd. Was he kidding? She had to clean his grandmother’s house on Sundays?

              Is she on a salary or hourly wage?

              • Adgirl says:

                I know that’s crazy. I almost called the Labor Board on her behalf, until jeff mentioned the bonuses. I’m sure he’s compliant with CA law.
                Perhaps Zoila is trying to accumate a lot of money for the family she left behind in Central America (Gutamala maybe?).
                Anyway she is tired. And bored I think – does she have a boyfriend – who does she get waxes for?

              • Savannah111 says:

                I didnt know she cleaned his Grandmothers house on Sundays I have a question she does live with him right??

                I love Jeb is that his name the young man has stuck it out for what 2 seasons now I like that he seems to never complain yet and I apprecaite that Jeff will let him bring his son to work when he has to.. I did miss last nights episode of flipping out but they are putting them ondemand within a couple of days that they air so I can catch up on it..

              • Need a Hobby says:

                2 days off a month. I don’t think either one of them were kidding about that.

  6. Amber...Real Wife says:

    OT but definitely important.

    Yesturday I posted re: Tamra and Simon’s domestic dispute. I received numerous posts that disagreed and a few that went on to prove why anyone would have similar ideas. Great. We post to clear our minds get our thoughts off our chest. However, I noticed that while I posted about Tamra, the responses to my post were directed to me regarding my victimizing abused women, my lack of intelligence and became a little bit of a gang bang. That is wrong. Recently i’ve noticed a crew that has been moderating responses on this blog. I’m assuming, of their own volition. They are chastizing people for their thoughts and use of curse words, vocabulary, and even grammar (although some grammar posts were to be helpful) . This same crew is quick to defend any perceived slight against one of their favorites.

    WTF is going on? WhoTF RU, to criticize anyone’s intelligence, because you don’t agree with their post. I’m no rocket scientist, neither is anyone here, but I know that in order to disagree with a poster I don’t have to dissect their post, and resort to name calling when responding. It is rude and in poor taste. Then when clique members join in it becomes a gang bang. These same posters are the one’s who welcome new members into the community, telling all to come on in the waters’s fine. Well it is not fine. You CAN’T control this board. You CAN’T insult posters and you CAN’T intimidate or try to run off long time posters. NOT HAPPENING!

    Everytime this clique does a gangbang, it discourages prior posters or lurkers from posting. People who possibly agreed but don’t want to be BULLIED by a few bad apples. Let’s keep it clean guys and girls. Agree to disagree. No name calling, No insulting intelligence of others. Let’s keep the snark aimed at its intended targets. Jill, and the other housewives who dare to insult OUR COLLECTIVE intelligence. Agreed?

    BTW Not that it matters, because every poster is important regardless of time here, BUT I lurked for a month before posting on Hubpages in May. I’ve seen several different crews dominate this board. For all fearful posters…don’t worry, you’ll get your chance as this too shall pass.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Well said! I hope that the thread from the grammar police was taken as I took it, as all fun and games because spelling and grammer certainly do not count here!

      I hope anyone who feels like they want to post here, feels free to do so, if you have any hesitation, please don’t, because we welcome new friends and lurkers alike! All we ask is that you don’t attack other posters, but all opinions are welcome.

      That brings me to Amber’s post, I’m very sorry that you feel that you were attacked, I really am! I missed the thread but I intend to go back and review. (Yesterday was insane) I know that domestic violence can really bring out hot tempers and flaming emotions, particularly if someone has been involved personally in a domestic situation.

      I’m a little concerned to hear that you feel “several different crews dominate this board”. I certainly don’t feel that way. I know we had a few issues with specific people, one in particular, but I’ve always tried to ensure everyone who wants to post their opinions have been able to do so.

      I hope that all is good now and that there are no hard feelings.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Thank you for responding Lynn. All is well, as I am not going anywhere. Well.. maybe over to RealCityHousewife but I know you saction those visits. 🙂 Unfortunately, I think it is important to remind the board members, US, that we should reply to posts and not attack each other. We attack JILL and other RH members only! LOL We know that you work and can’t monitor 24/7, but some here are becoming as territorial as Teresa around JuicyJoe. An occasional reprimand is necessary, to keep new blood coming in. Thanks for the birthday wish and Love LoveLove the blog.

        • Anniieee says:

          Awe–Love you Amber…and a personal Happy Birthday…Life is good, if your feet hit the floor in the morning.

        • Had Enough! says:

          Amber,

          I didn’t read those posts because I wasn’t interested, but I feel terrible that you feel this way. You are a wonderful member of the LynnFam and you know everyone appreciates you. Seems you and I are not having the very best birthdays possible, so why don’t we head out for a midday Skinny Girl Margarita? And for our birthday wishes, let’s wish that we ALL learn to disagree without being disagreeable.

          • Amber...Real Wife says:

            I drank so much tequila on Sunday, that i’d nurse that SkinnyGirlMargarita to college. Had a wonderful birthday and hope yours is wonderful too. As for the meanies on the board, lets hope their husbands take their hands and leads them to the promised land! LOL Mine did. TMI LMAO

            Happy Birthday Had Enough! Happy Birthday to all September babies!

            • Had Enough! says:

              Amber – funniest comment I’ve read all week (may their husbands take them by the hand…) – I plan to steal that from you, if you don’t mind. I know quite a few people I would like to say it to.

              • anniieee says:

                ROFLMAO…You two are funny funny… (she chuckles and chokes on the dinner she is trying to eat.) Had enough–I am going to hoist one to you and Amber and hope the rest of your day is miraculous!!

      • KK says:

        Amber is right. This board has been taken over by a few who don’t like differing opinions. I mostly lurk and only comment infrequently because of it. I have been considering going to another blog.

        I don’t know who said what to whom and I’m not going to take the time to look up all the little arguments.

        Isn’t it ironic a board created to discuss the inconsiderate, rude, and vindictive behavior of a HW-Jill- has started to mimic the show. Regardless, of who started it, who’s right & who’s wrong.

        Everyone chill out and set an example.

    • Olivia says:

      Agreed. Often a particular site gets very comfortable after awhile and forgets that we would not recognize one another in person if we fell over each other 10 times a day. Comments are taken personally and feelings get hurt.

      I see this blog as just an interlude in the lives of most of us. A chance to make a comment without an ensuing witch hunt. Take it or leave it, it is just a site that highlights a bunch of tv shows, not coverage of the UN.

      This is why I am so opposed to the themes coming from the DC franchise. Race, politics, religion should not be left for discussion by a group of “airhead stars” who don’t possess a clue amongst the whole bunch. This show in particular is not designed for the elevation of those subjects that are better left untouched when delivered by bleached, breast enhanced Know Nothings sipping from the nearest wine vat.

      I did not come here for a college education, I have already done that. Nor do I expect my spelling and grammar to be underscored. Leave it alone! Just let us continue to poke fun and bring these morons to heel. There is so much out there happening to us that we have little or not control over that a piece of well aimed snark is about the best we can expect in an otherwise vicious world.

      /Rant off.

      • quincyil says:

        I enjoy the news alerts that pop up here. Unlike Jill, I don’t have google alerts on the various housewives coming to my inbox daily.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Amber – sorry your feelings were hurt yesterday – I too thought it was a bit excessive a reply to your post. This seems to happen on very hot topics from time to time. Your posts are interesting and insightful so please don’t stop sharing!

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Not a chance that i’d leave 🙂 , and I was more shocked than hurt at the venom coming my way. I was like, WTF is going on and who needs love and affection? (i.e. laid) LOL Alls well that ends well.

        • Tootsie says:

          Glad you are back in form Amber. I understand how you feel. I’m frequently afraid to comment here thinking I will be scolded and my feelings will be hurt. Stay wit ths post we ned u.

      • Olivia says:

        In my own estimation, all the “stars” and their respective spouses suffer from a serious case of “stupidity” in one form or another.

        Anyone willing to open their personal lives for the sake of public entertainment has a few screws loose to begin with. And inviting the kids on to share in the insanity display issues that exceed explanation.

        To make it even more pathological, they set up Facebook pages and Twitter accounts to keep us abreast of their every moment or their own feelings about the other “stars”.

        Some are more “in your face” than others but they all share the same disability: fame at any price. It is what makes it so amusing to make fun of. Stupid people pretending that they aren’t.

        • nathania says:

          I understand the having a facebook thing more than twitter. I don’t have a facebook but alot of people do, I had one in the past and it took up too much time, I found it kind of addictive. But twitter, which seems to imply that we really need to know about these people on a minute to minute basis, I find a little strange.

    • MoDee says:

      That’s why I came out of the woodwork to ask the question upthread, because stories can be so deceiving and not all of the facts are in, and wouldn’t you know, their series is gearing up for the next season….coincidence???

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I wouldn’t put anything past Tamra. She loves the attention and the fame. BTW… Hottest housewife my ass! She is so jealous of Gretchen’s beauty you can see it in her eyes when she looks at her. If she’s dating this new guy, we’ll be seeing alot of PDAs in the OC this season. Yucka!

        • quincyil says:

          Tamra has nothing other than her great figure going for her and the great figure will be harder to hold on to in the next few years. I actually don’t think she is prettier than the average woman especially if her bangs are pulled up over her head. Her life with Simon in that big house was probably hell. Did you see how much she drank? She was a falling down drunk a lot of the time that they were filming. Now, we will watch her totally self implode. She is aging and it’s not going to be pretty.

          • nathania says:

            I always wondered about her line “Housewives come younger but they don’t come hotter”.

            I never thought that was accurate…I don’t know if Bravo writes these for the women or if they come up with them themselves…Luann once said that she did make hers up but that it was edited, that it ended with “I feel very blessed” or something, but they didn’t include the last part.

        • Savannah111 says:

          Amber,
          OMG I agree 100% with your post about Tamera I’m not a fan and I believe that I posted last night about her she may not be the youngest housewife but she’s the hottest, I can’t stand that it just put me off as soon as their show started every week and I hear her say it, of course she’s jealous of Gretchen’s beauty that’s easy to see and is very clear. Grethchen also in IMO has a much better vocabulary that she does and I think she’s jealous of that too.

          • krone says:

            I just remember Tamra trying to pimp off her Socially “challenged” son, Ryan, on Gretchen. Or to be more precise, trying to discredit and humiliate Gretchen by intentionally getting her drunk and then siccing Ratboy on her. What kind of mother does that? Her jealousy of Gretchen for being hotter and younger is so obvious!! Can’t stand the woman and never could.

    • Jeepers says:

      Well said, and I totally agree Amber. Thank the good lord
      I have thick skin.
      The only asses I would love to kick is, Jill, Caroline, Teresa
      and oh yes, Kelly of course.
      But it is true what you said and I for one only post when I am
      upset about something or someone, not to be told that I did
      that I didn’t or did do this or that wrong, but some people do
      take joy in that sort of behavior I guess. I think it is just plain
      rude myself, & that is MHO……………………Jeepers

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      To @amber…real housewife:

      Why don’t you take a page from your own book before you lecture anyone?

      Let’s recap yesterday, shall we?:

      I replied to a comment you wrote yesterday:
      “Ok- now I’m getting irritated.No one can GET anyone arrested for anything. She called the police, the police believed she was in danger, and then the POLICE arrested him for domestic violence.One of the problems with “battered wife” syndrome is blaming the victim as well as not believing any claims of abuse.By calling Tamra a slut and minimizing her PERCEPTION of danger you are sending a very dangerous message.You weren’t there and neither was I, but hitting someone with a dog leash is also “meant to humilate and teach a lesson”.Sorry- no smoke, no fire. The cops thought there was enough that they could get domestic assault charges to stick so that’s enough credibility for me.As i stated up thread , if I had my ex come back to my house with our dog and he started to throw things at me, I WOULD call the police.At what point to you draw the line? Should the police only be called if someone gets hurt and not before? If she felt in one second in danger, so what? She pays taxes right? Let the police come and let THEM make the determination that she was not at risk.As far as her being a prostitute, again, so what? SIMON threw a dog leash at her, striking her.Take it from someone who’s been there, sometimes the fear of future violence is worse than fear of the actual present violence.No matter which way you slice this-it’s wrong, and Simon should have been arrested for domestic violence.”

      You then replied:
      “Thanks for the birthday wish, it should’ve came before the attempted smackdown. If you are speaking from your own experiences with domestic violence, that is you. I am speaking from my experiences where people have embelished or distorted events in order to have people arrested. Don’t act as if it is unheard of , i.e. folks using the justice system for vengeance, and don’t paint me as unsympathetic to victims or blaming the victim etc. Tamra is indeed a slut. Anyone can see it, it is probably what attracted her husband in the first place. And for you to even think you’ll change my or anyone’s perception on that issue is ludicrous. See ya!”

      My birthday was 9/14. I posted it when I did a few horoscopes in August.
      I didn’t post it on the day because I’m not 12 years old looking for birthday wishes.
      Typically when some one wishes me a happy birthday, I respond. Since you didn’t- I didn’t wish you one.
      When I pointed that out to you, you responded “Keep dreaming” As in keep dreaming I won’t wish you a Happy Birthday.

      ummmm OK

      As far as your reply to my reply is concerned where’s the “smackdown”? I DISAGREED with you. I didn’t call you names, I didn’t “bully” you.

      In your reply you actually say: “And for you to even think you’ll change my or anyone’s perception on that issue is ludicrous.” But you aren’t lecturing to “Agree to disagree.”? “And WhoTF RU, to criticize anyone’s intelligence, because you don’t agree with their post.”?

      You then go on to say “See ya!””
      But aren’t you lecturing everyone that “every poster is important regardless of time here”?

      Why are you dismissing me by saying “see ya” and “keep dreaming”?

      Evidently you don’t like me too much. I really can’t muster up enough feeling for you to like or dislike you, and am surprised that you are quite upset with me for not wishing you a happy birthday and for daring to disagree with you.

      So right back atcha: “You CAN’T control this board” either.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        @OneMoreinBoston – gotta agree with ya. I have an ex-husband, he was abusive physically & psycologically. If I didn’t call the cops when I did, who knows what would have happened. I think you were on the money with your post. And BTW, I was getting irritated too.

        Name calling and such of ANYONE is inappropriate. That’s just my humble opinion, but I have your back 1more

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        No Lynn does. Don’t get upset with me. I just pointed out the bullying going on this site if you differ with some opinions. Keep it moving. You are rude and abrasive. I don’t care about you and you shouldn’t care about me. When we agree to disagree, we know we have difffering opinions that really wont change. How is that disrespectful? Well whatever! LOL Just keep it moving.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          I dare you-no double dare- you to show me where I was rude or abrasive.

          You can’t- because I wasn’t.

          However, you have been very rude to me by stating “keep dreaming” and “see ya”.

          So I’m supposed to “keep it moving” when YOU are rude, but you stop and hijack this board with your lectures when you feel someone is rude to you?

          Again, take another page from your own book and why don’t you “keep it moving”?

      • krone says:

        I’ve experienced some abuse in my life and sometimes get very down on myself for allowing it to happen at all. (sometimes the psychological and verbal abuse is worse than the physical too). I will NEVER judge any person in this position asking for help. It’s so difficult though things are getting a bit better maybe. In the old days it was very easy for the abuser to get out of jail and come back to “get even” . I think we’re taking domestic violence more seriously now and we should NEVER criticize a woman for trying to protect herself (even the despicable Tamra has a right to expect protection from an abusive ex.)

    • Katie says:

      Amber since I responded to your post I assume you are including me in the “gang bang.” I have never called you or anyone else a name, insulted your intelligence, pointed out grammatical errors on any post, nor am I affiliated with a larger conspiracy to moderate/control Lynn’s blog. 

      There were multiple responses that disagreed (as well as agreed) with you. I think it is a stretch to assume that because multiple people disagree with you, that they are all willing participants in a “gang bang” against you.

      I understand that you don’t like Tamara. At times I  thought some of the things she did on the show were horrendous, and at times I felt badly for her situation. But I remain ambivalent towards her because I don’t know her.

      But I digress. I believe it is destructive to all women to tie a woman’s promiscuity, perceived or factual, with assumptions  about unrelated behavior/actions.

      If the infrequent occasion arises that I feel the need to
      disagree with a post, I dissect it to further to understand the poster’s opinion. I try to remain open to understanding the rationale behind issues that I disagree with because there are often valid points that I didn’t consider.

       My response to you stated that I didn’t understand how you concluded that was Tamara was abusing the legal system because she is a slut (your words.) 

      I felt your response to me was condescending.  You claimed that you previously said something that you didn’t and then  preceded to tell me I wasn’t paying attention.  My subsequent reply was snarky defense to your comment about my lack of attention, and perhaps an even snarkier remark about how you chose to articulate it. 

      I apologize if you were hurt by it. 

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        You were there. You participated. It’s okay. I just wanted Lynn, the ultimate moderator extraordinaire, to know that people are attacked when they disagree. Be it a hot button topic or not. I’m reading and posting just as fast as everyone. I don’t have the time to explain every nuance of my thought process! LMAO

        If you don’t understand what i’m saying, ask. Politely. And if you don’t like the answer, just ignore me. That is what I do all the time. But one thing I won’t do is attack anyone first. I don’t agree with alot of things on this board. That’s okay. That’s why we are here to discuss and debate our opinions. Respectfully.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          There is no bullying going on here, Kelly.

          You have attacked every single person here that has disagreed with you.

          No one was rude to you or disrespectful, yet you have stated that the ”meanies” here should get laid when they disagree with you.

          Are you sure you want Lynn to know how people who disagree with YOU are attacked?

          And now you are saying that if someone does not like what you say that we are supposed to ignore you.

          Is that because you are unable to defend your position in an intelligent way without resorting to lecturing and personal attacks? Sounds like a cop out to me.

          • Katie says:

            OMB… Ditto. Shhh don’t tell anyone I paid you to say that. I wanted to thank you for posting this because frankly this exchange has made my head spin.

            I attempted to reason with her to no avail. You have more patience than I.

            Given her attitude, perhaps her husband needs directions on how to get to the promised land.

    • nathania says:

      I missed that. At least I think I did. I noticed a bunch of people who thought it was ridiculous that Tamra pressed charges…when I see a topic that appears to split a board the last thing I want to do is participate so I speak my piece and leave. Because no one knows whether Tamra got snapped with a loose nylon leash end, was hit with the buckle end of a dog leash after having it whipped in her direction which would hurt like hell, or was hit with the large plastic handle of a retractable leash. In any event she was assaulted so she has a right to involve police.

      I so wholeheartedly agree with everthing you posted. I consider myself a free agent and when people start warming up to me online I make it a point to pull away, because when I was younger and stupid I was burned by an online ‘friendship’. I speak only for myself, and I ignore clutches. There is nothing that can ruin a website quicker than a ‘borg’ who insists everyone agree about everything. I will disagree to a point, but then I am going to leave the discussion, for my own sake, because I love to argue and there is no worse waste of time in my opinion than arguing on the internet, to which I spent the years from 2003 to 2006 largely devoted (my ‘lost years’). My worst temptation is arguing vs. anything xenophobic, and if I perceive a strain of it that is tolerated or even encouraged by the person who runs the site then I will leave that site and not return…. there is open discussion about it, that is another thing. I love debate though, and one thing I have noticed is that online, men are allowed to debate, debate, debate, til the cows come home, whereas if a woman carries an argument for much longer than a few posts, she’s a bitch. I have experienced this over and over on political sites. Several times my insistence on wanting to debate the topic was framed as ‘having a personal reaction’ or ‘taking it personally’. I couldn’t believe the hypocrisy of that….whereas a stated male could say the same thing and just be thought of as intelligent for sticking to the facts (this is criticism from other stated females, not men, I am referring to). I have also come to understand that certain kinds of behavior patterns encouraged in females (pecking order) do not allow for debate, and women that live by these rules of interacting will take it personally if you disagree with them, when from my point of view, it COULDN’T BE MORE IMPERSONAL. It has nothing to do with the other person, it is how *I* feel about the topic at hand. But because women deride each other, undercut each other, gossip about each other as a means of conflict rather than punch each other, generally speaking, sometimes some women grow up believing disagreement is an attempt at this rather than someone stating their opinion. I guess I could call women like this “Jills”. I am more of a “Bethenny” type, and never the twain shall meet, I think.

      Personal attacks are a different thing altogether. I think personal attacks are a sign of mental impairment so my policy is to ignore them, but to each their own. The quicker that person gets bored from not getting their ‘fix’ and moves on, the better for everyone. I also make it a point to never contact anyone else behind the scenes, like through private messages, and almost always use a different name on different kinds of sites, so there is no crossover and no one recognizes me from somewhere else. I am not in personal contact with anyone on any site that I have not met in real life and I want to keep it that way. So, nothing I say is directed at anyone personally, it is how I feel about a stated topic, and that’s all. I have no desire to know anyone online beyond a user name and their thoughts on a topic at hand…but I had to learn a very bitter lesson to get that way. I think it’s great people form friendships here and elsewhere and trust each other like that, but I am not going there again, I hope.

      • anniieee says:

        And many more ((Hugs)) to everyone. Its all good… this is life…too short short and upsets can make you sick. We all just agree to disagree or agree or think differently or skim down the post and enjoy reading all the different opinions.

        Ah my opinion… Abuse is so corrosive and damaging–that unless you have walked the walk–you can emphatize, but never understand the shame that the abused carries. That being said… and having walked that walk…Tamara is a fame whore…I would never persume to say she was or wasn’t abused–but she is taking it and running with it for the publicity and for the revenge factor. She really is a mean person and carries big grudges.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          @anniiee?

          “Its all good… this is life…too short short and upsets can make you sick. We all just agree to disagree or agree or think differently or skim down the post and enjoy reading all the different opinions.”

          Um, no. Someone posted an opinion, I disagreed. It denigrated into a personal attack, and unkind comments.

          Then said someone wants to post a list of rules, that they themselves don’t follow.

          And again state that the people who disagreed with her posting are “meanies” who need to get laid.

          Sorry, I take exception to that.

          I also take exception to being told that life is “too short, short” and that I should just skim the post.

          While I appreciate the sentiment, I think I’ll continue to read the posts as I please, not what is most agreeable to you.

          • Kat says:

            How can anyone move on if you won’t allow this to drop? Anniiee was replying to someone else.

            If people are not allowed to agree to disagree I have doubts about any civil discussion happening at all. jmo

            • OneMoreinBoston says:

              @kat?

              Disagree all you want with me, you can expect a civil post back from me.

              I’m not pleased being told I need to get laid because I disagree with someone’s post.

              I re read @anniiee’s post and I don’t think I was incorrect.

              So, you can move on if you’d like, but I’ll continue to post here without your permission.

              • Kat says:

                Please yourself.

              • Katie says:

                *Warning not flashing gang signs*

                Kat I don’t think it was personal towards you. I think one more in Boston may be perplexed by the reaction considering the actual content of the posts yesterday and the accusations made today.

          • Kat says:

            On a different subject, Lynn took care of the issue (name) I brought up last night. She fixed it. 🙂

          • anniieee says:

            @onemore in Boston–apologies to you if I sounded flippant. Did not mean to come off that way at all. Just my humble opinion from this crazy family I am in–that I learned–to smile and walk away–the more I tried to make my point–the more I got ragged on. It was just easier to walk away. I most certainly did not mean to suggest that my way is the only way..just trying to lighten the intensity for the moment. Had a bad afternoon with “ex relatives” and was trying on a mantra to make myself feel better. No one should ever make personal attacks–I am with you on that… and again, my humble apology to you for upsetting you.

            • OneMoreinBoston says:

              No worries, you didn’t upset me, but thank you for the apology.

              Again, I disagreed with someone’s post yesterday in a non personal way.

              I even went out on a limb and relayed personal experiences.

              The original poster took it upon herself to lecture everyone here, and set rules that she herself is not following.

              She continued to post today that the “meanies” that disagreed with her need to get laid.

              I’ve got some problems with this, way past the original posting.

              You’re right- it is intense here sometimes, but I don’t believe I should move on, or that I shouldn’t respond to postings that I don’t agree with.

              I’m sorry you had a tough day, and sometimes, I too just want to respond to someone here “lighten up, there other more important things to worry about.”

              And then I realize that everyone’s opinions and emotions are valid, and I try to let someone express themselves as they wish. As long as it doesn’t end up insulting other posters.

              I am just a little surprised that I feel like I’m on the receiving end of posters

              • OneMoreinBoston says:

                sorry hit the reply button to fast…

                meant to finish by saying lecturing

              • anniieee says:

                Thanks so much for understanding….and this line of yours is perfect. We should all follow it.

                And then I realize that everyone’s opinions and emotions are valid, and I try to let someone express themselves as they wish. As long as it doesn’t end up insulting other posters.

                Well said!!

        • nathania says:

          If I watch OC this time around ( I reeeeeeeeally can’t stand Alexis “boobs for Jesus” Bellino so that makes it hard) I will watch Tamra more closely. I watched NJ and the NY and the pathological nature of the NJ women and Jill Zarin and KKB on NY made the OC ladies seem tame in comparison. But there were several times that Simon was so cruel to Tamra verbally on OC that it shocked me. He is NOT a nice person, and if he is that way on camera, there is no telling what he is capable of off-camera.

          I just had a thought, I wonder if the reason the housewives are so popular is because audiences are absolutely starving for older women on the tube. After a decade of having barely legal celebutantes shoved down our throats maybe viewers are ready for some actual grown women, troubled as they may be.

          • Adgirl says:

            Personally, I believe the reason RHNJ got such huge ratings is because the same crowd that enjoys NJ Shore loves watching proxys of their mothers fight like teenagers.

            • Savannah111 says:

              Adgirl,
              It’s always been IMO that teenagers are the biggest followers based on the way most of the blogs that are lucky enough to go through at the Bravo site especially Teresa’s followers and a lot of Jacqualine’s. When the posts say don’t worry about the haters and when they are cheering Teresa on for acting like a total dumbass, being rude starting fights all you read is how they just LOVE LOVE LOVE her and also when even Carolines posters say I wish you were my mom who would actually post things like that but younger kids…

          • Buffywood says:

            OMG… “boobs for Jesus” too flippin’ funny

      • Sandie says:

        Thanks, Nathania for posting this. I’m a confirmed lurker, mostly because I’m rarely as articulate as I would like to be. I enjoy immensely the diverse viewpoints, but not so much the struggles that can go with getting it said and understood. Anyway, I like it here.

    • Realife says:

      Hear, hear! I have felt the same way regarding the gang mentality. Thank you for expressing the matter so eloquently.

  7. Katie says:

    Hi Boston, since you seem to be the resident technological wizard, I was wondering if you could post the leaked video of Caroline’s deposition. I could not find the video on tmz.

  8. TT in OC says:

    Any update on the big announcement from the Sahalis last night?

  9. WindyCityWondering says:

    Rachel Zoe Project relies too much on her fixation with all things fashion and not enough on her as a person. She seems to ignore anyone who wants her to acknowledge their feelings or needs her support! Rachel is more animated with Brad than her own husband. IMO, her personality doesn’t seem large enough for a reality type show. That said, I do enjoy the hunt for the perfect gown and accessories!

    • quincyil says:

      The yellow gown with the open front wasn’t a good dress for Rachel. Her bones showed and there were not breasts. I was bothered that her assistants didn’t tell her that this was a unflattering look for her.

      • She does such a wonderful job of dressing others, and her own casual style is wonderful, but neither of the dresses she picked for herself were flattering. She said the yellow dress fit, yet it gaped at the neckline, shoulders and waist.

        In typical Bravo style, a former employee was slandered through creative editing then more artificial drama was manufactured by this imaginary pregnancy which will never happen. (Women don’t ovulate with a body fat percentage as low as hers)

        Perhaps she will allow Rodger to adopt a dog.

      • Jen says:

        Oh TY for someone mentioning her awful dress- that chick is too thin IMO

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I agree, she’s not a loveable character (like Bethenny) she seems very cold and distant. She’s not one that you cheer for.

  10. LynnNChicago says:

    http://starcasm.net/archives/65890

    If you can stomach it, Kim Zolciak’s newest song, the “song bar” at the bottom will begin the music (if you can call it that) Keep the bucket nearby!

  11. LynnNChicago says:

    Just moments ago from Teresa’s Sister In law who is reportedly the newest Jersey Housewife:

    melissa_gorga All joking aside, the past is the past, everyone starts with a fresh slate, family is family, period.

    • Buffywood says:

      Oh Boy! She is drinking Caroline’s coolade already. I wonder how long that will last.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        until Teresa throws away more Christmas cookies…..or makes a remark about Missy’s house…….it will take one talking head or blog comment – then the fun will begin!

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Very disappointing, indeed 😉 If Melissa isn’t going to give Teresa what’s coming to her, then I will not watch another NJ season. That’s the only reason I would have tuned in to a show that is both boring as well as trashy as can get.

      I will not clap.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Are these bitches playin us?

      I’m over it.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Me too, Rabble. I’m sure Teresa s.c.r.a.m.b.l.e.d. to make amends with Melissa so Teresa wouldn’t have anyone making her look bad. Why in God’s green earth we would want to see a relative of Teresa’s “just being nice” as some addition to the show, I have no idea. Barf.

        I can just see Caroline in full Godmother role, hurriedly making Teresa and Melissa make up and be good fambly.

        • Olivia says:

          And you don’t think these shows aren’t scripted?

          They supposedly “hate each other” but now “love each other” and why is that?

          Well, they have to film together and if you want that paycheck you will agree to just about anything those producers propose as a “storyline”.

          Look for Jill to be in full “redemption mode” when that series kicks in as well. And my guess is that it will be Ramona’s “role” to lead the way.

          • error404 says:

            or does Melissa get to play Teressa this season? We’ll get to see Melissa ambush T outside the ladies room and force her to say “Hi” because “Ain’t I nice?” and then T will be the new D.. the one that’s been slated for us to hate.

          • Had Enough! says:

            Bring it, Jillzee baby. Bring it. We are waiting for you to put on the redemption act. You claimed last season that you were going to be redeemed by the end of the season and instead you dug the hole deeper. I am going to enjoy watching you try to put one over on us. And especially on Olivia.

          • nathania says:

            I have been thinking about this alot and there is no way they aren’t scripted, at least loosely. There was a scene on RHONJ last year where Danielle freaked out because she went into Posche and there was an unfamiliar receptionist there that made Danielle wait. It only makes sense if you understand that Danielle knew they were going to film a ‘confrontation’ scene there with Kim D, the cameras were following her as she drove in, they were in the store when she walked in, and Kim D was supposed to be there but Kim D went next door and let Danielle stew in her emotions, and probably told the woman at the desk to be rude to her. Danielle was mad because all of that was on camera, and in her mind it wasn’t supposed to ‘happen’ that way. It was scripted to be a confrontation between her and Kim D the moment she came in. Kim D in particular was masterful at manipulating the Bravo cameras for her own purposes, she is a very scary person.

            • OneMoreinBoston says:

              very insightful. Remember when she absolutely crushed Ashley by saying “it takes along time, but you clean up well.” or something like that.

              I dislike Ashley, but my heart went out to her at that moment.

              • nathania says:

                I know, who on earth says that kind of thing to a teenage girl. It is really no wonder Ashley has the problems she does, she is surrounded by nitwits and nutjobs and every one of them walks around like they have their sh*t together.

        • Buffywood says:

          Lol.. Off topic but I just love that expression “Why on/in god’s green earth”… I use it too, especially when asking my 13 year old something.

          • Laura aka Just done says:

            LOL, so do I Buffy – my 15 year old looks at me like I’m crazy. One day, he actually said to me “where did you learn that phrase?” I had to admit it was from my own mother. THAT was when I officially became my mother! LOL

    • TT in OC says:

      I was contemplating to watch HWoNJ the coming season because Danielle is gone and Melissa joins ….. well, back to “read Lynn’s recap only” idea.

      • vilzvet says:

        I think Teresa is sooooooo jealous of Melissa because she has a baby Joey and Teresa most likely never will. Melissa’s children are adorable and I bet the farm are MUCH better behaved, but we’ll have to see I guess!

        • 201MaryF says:

          Yes, in some families and cultures, having a boy is very important.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Not only does Missy have a BOY, she named that BOY…JOEY! T has to steam every time she says that little angel’s name……IMO Missy will definately set Teresa off – family or not.

          • 201MaryF says:

            Wow, W – I never even thought of that. I never associated her Joey with Joe, Teresa’s husband.

            It must really irk Teresa. If she had a boy, it would certainly have the name Joe in some form.

          • vilzvet says:

            LOL, yep, there are TWO Joey G’s…one is in the slammer right now!

  12. boston02127 says:

    Have a good afternoon everyone.

  13. Olivia says:

    The Housewives of OC is being shown on a local independent station here in my area and since I had never watched it when it was first on, I gave it a try.

    One of the things that stood out for me was Lauri and her son Josh. This series seems to have been filmed about 5 yrs ago and apparently the kid has had many problems since then.

    But should this be seen as all his fault? The mother seems to be all about herself for one thing. She is filmed with her boobs hanging out of every outfit, her face spread out with Botox, and her whole focus seems to be about finding another husband (#3 or #4, I am not sure) to marry. Some guy named Steve seems to be filling that role as he drives her to the Juvenile Hall this kid has been sent to. Parenting skills also seem to be lost somewhere in the mix as she heads off to a “pajama party” being held at the Playboy Mansion and her friend takes pictures of her on the beach clad in a bikini that barely covers.

    How much effect this has on a young boy whose talking head piece seems to clearly identify his need to have his family intact and that the divorce has impacted his psyche is not in dispute.

    Having such a self absorbed mother has to have impacted him as she whizzes around town scantily clad looking for the next guy. Delivering lectures at this stage of the game is not going to make a difference which is what she is seen doing most of the time before she heads out for another evening on the town.

    Pathetic.

    • Anniieee says:

      I so agree with your post Olivia. It doesn’t matter the money, the status or the botox, kids want a parent to parent. I teach urban (inner city) where the parents are not all that interested or not around for their kids…same scenerio-just add poverty into the mix. They get this sense of independence and feel “so what, who cares?” Then their life goes downhill…there are exceptions to the rule, of course–but if you have a baby–raise it!!! It just isn’t all about YOU anymore. I cry for my babies here– and they are in HS. Josh is a lost soul–looking for someone to love him and give him boundaries.

      • Olivia says:

        And don’t forget that this self absorbed woman allowed his troubles to be filmed for national consumption. The child was lost at the very moment she agreed to participate in this uneventful program yet she chose to put that aside and feature his angst for her own aggrandizement.

        Allowing cameras to film private moments in one’ s lives for the sake of whatever these women are searching for puts the burden on the child to use coping skills they are not ready to use.

        Danielle’s kids are subjected to her nonsense and we can only guess the effect it must have on them. Simply because they are not filmed entering Juvenile Hall does not mean that their psyche’s are not in turmoil from having to deal with a megalomaniac parent intent on becoming famous for all the wrong reasons.

    • 201MaryF says:

      Hi Olivia:

      I, too, am a big fan of the first OC housewife series. I remember something Lauri said about Josh’s troubles. Lauri’s children have different fathers. When she was divorced, her oldest daughter (don’t remember her name) still had a relationship with her father. The younger daughter was just a baby and did not realize what was going on. But Josh was about 11, an age where he really wanted his father around, and that just did not happen.

      So, many of Josh’s problems, I agree with you, are from not having a supportive mother and father, even if they were divorced.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        OK, hold up…I have two add my two cents:

        Let me start this by saying I’m not a huge fan of Lauri’s but I believe she went on the show for the extra income. Was it a good idea for her kids…who knows? Would her son have been just as screwed up? He was on that route anyway.

        Which leads to my next point….yes, he is the child of a single mother/divorce…that doesn’t make it impossible for him to be a good kid. You said “So, many of Josh’s problems, I agree with you, are from not having a supportive mother and father, even if they were divorced.” Ok…let me say that I am divorced (when my son was 7), and my ex is not supportive as a father emotionally or financially. I still believe that I raised a good kid (he’s 15 now) who is kind, caring and considerate of others. He doesn’t get into trouble in school, has good grades, etc. It’s hard work being both parents, but if you surround yourself with good people (male and female role models) you can give your child examples of the type of person they should want to be like. That is what I did with my son. I am proud of the young man he has become, involved with charities, volunteering in a nursing home as a visitor to those with no families.

        You can’t say that Josh became the way he is simply because he didn’t have a father. The issues there are much deeper

        • 201MaryF says:

          I stand corrected. I should have said supportive mother or father.

          I remember Lauri saying Josh was so hurt to see his sister go off with her dad for a visit, while he had no attention from his dad.

          Josh has had serious drug problems. In fact, Lauri left the show midseason because of his drugs issues.

          But if he had a supportive mother or father, maybe he would have not been so lost.

          Lauri was clueless as to how to help him.

          • anniieee says:

            Mom too busy with self… maybe making money to keep up that lifestyle…Dad absent.. Sounds upthread we have Moms who are there–WHO parent and put the children first. That’s all the kids want…to know they matter to someone. Congrats on doing a great job–wish there were more moms like you two out there. I think (think) don’t know, that Laurie was interested in Laurie and the lifestyle and once kids don’t need babysitters, she left them on their own while she relived her youth. Playboy sleepovers, dinners and drinking with the girls, etc. How about checking that homework? Meeting his friends and their parents? Putting him in sports and attending the games. Working makes an extra crunch..as kids get out early and Mom is still working. We figured out a way..if it matters, you do. Congrats you two–you have kids that teachers love (ah heck, I love them all–just can’t save some of them.)

          • Blue Sky says:

            Wasn’t Josh’s father a drug addict? IIRC, he sort of deserted the family, & didn’t help raise Josh – plus wasn’t he a terrible dad? I think Laurie is self-absorbed (look at how she cares so much what she looks like) and she had a tough time raising her kids on very little $. I really feel sorry for Josh, & Laurie, she did try to help him. My sister saved her daughter from drugs, by putting the whole family into therapy. My niece turned out great, thank God, and she is a terrific person now. When she was a teenager, she was “hell on wheels.” My sister never gave up on her, thank God.

      • MAMAZ says:

        You CAN divorce and still parent together. It’s not easy but people who put their children first manage to do so.
        A lot of the divorced parents I know have a significant other in their life within months if not weeks of the other spouse moving out. How can any child feel secure in that type of atmosphere?

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          @Mamaz – before you speak, you really need to know the full story. DO NOT make assumptions about what is best for my child. What was definitely NOT best for my child was to be living in a household with abuse (both emotional and physical). As for your comment about “significant others” yes – I have a significant other in my life, and he has been more of a father than the person who donated his sperm.

          Unless you have walked a mile in my shoes (or someone else in my situation e.g. vgirl511) do not pretend to know what is best. I have family like you, thankfully most are out of my life.

          • quincyil says:

            I think the age of reason is from 7 to 9 for most children. Paris Hilton and Josh are past the marker and neither are responsible for their own actions. I think it comes from within as well as from the environment.

      • vgirl511 says:

        I also have to add my two cents…..

        I am a single mom to a 13 yr old boy and an 11 yr old girl. Their father became a drug addict and never saw them again after I filed for divorce. He also never paid one penny of child support EVER! They were 7 and 9 the last time they saw him. Luckily for me, they are growing up to be GREAT kids. My son is an honor student, my daughter has a heart of gold. I couldnt be more proud of them! I am fortunate to have my parents near by, and they have been a tremendous help. I do have a significant other, and he too has been a great influence on my children. Having two parents is not ALWAYS better.

        • 201MaryF says:

          Yes, having two parents is not always better. But Josh has no support from either of his parents. That is my point. After the divorce, his dad was totally out of the picture. And his mom. Lauri (OC housewife, 1st season) was off trying to find another husband, dating Slade, taking trips with Vicki. He wanted a family, any shape or size, and he did not get it.

        • Blue Sky says:

          Vgirl511, you are a terrific mom, love hearing about kids that go thru tough times but turn out great! Even with their dad deserting your kids, no help from him, you raised your kids to be success stories. Kudos to you!

    • The Buzz says:

      Most of these women are totally sefl-absorbed and there is little left for their children. Lauri, I believe, was married multiple times, so not only did Josh not have his own father present, but he was exposed to several men who came and went in his young life.
      The majority of divorced mothers I’ve known have raised good kids. The single moms I know put time and effort into the rearing of their children. With few exceptions, the “housewives” are too into themselves to do this.

  14. Rabble Rouser says:

    Hi all

    re; Kim G’s tweets.

    Just because Kim slams T- doesn’t make her a star in my book- especially when she LIES. She tweeted some crap about T borrowing that stupid chinchilla coat- and bragged about her buying one that cost 80K. That’s such a bold face lie and insults my intelligence, it distracts from the insult she is trying to make.

    She also didn’t originate calling T a gorilla or one of the chimps planet of the apes. She also tried to take credit for ‘square tits’.

    Her tweets to the Jersey Shore cast are pathetic and needy.

    She is vile.

    • nathania says:

      yes…it reminds me of that scene in Terms of Endearment where Shirley McClaine looks at Jack Nicholson and purses her lips and says through a clenched jaw, “There is something WRONG with you.”

      There is something WRONG with Kim G.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Thanks for the blog – I have such a hard time watching Flipping Out – don’t really have a favorite and Jeff is usually an ass – to everyone! And isn’t he making money off this show? Shouldn’t he be more entertaining?

    • error404 says:

      opps! The internet ate my homework!

      Anywho, I was saying that yes, Bravo is playing up her possible, ED, but it’s hard to look at her int hat Marc Jacobs gown and not think she has one.

      But they do replay Johnny? asking her if she’s afraid of getting fat like 100 times.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Rachel can apparently dress others quite well – but here she looks silly, the dress doesn’t flatter her at all and the purse???? At the very least, I expected she would know how to strike a pose!

        • there’s no shape to that dress at all. Ok ok, Rachel has no shape herself, but the thing hangs on her like it was made by Omar the Tent Maker. Seriously, if they want us to believe she doesn’t have an ED, they should tailor the dress to make it look like a “sample size” fits her like a glove instead of a tent.

      • 201MaryF says:

        Thanks so much for posting this picture, error. I could not watch the whole show because I had to get up early today for jury duty. I was hoping I would get a chance to see the yellow dress.

        RZ always looks so overwhelmed by her clothes. I imagine she is very petite, but even on the Bravo lead-ins, she is wearing a black dress that looks like it is several sizes too big.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Jury duty- I hope it’s quick and easy. I know there are certain types of trials I would not be able to sit through- although over all I would like the experience. I got called once when I still lived in Canada but only got my card pulled for one case and I was challenge by the prosecution. ( They never said why- but the case was an employee who was accused of stealing money and the time I was a part time cashier. I suspect they might have thought I would understand the temptation. )

          The other day, I just got a jury summons in the mail but I will be excused since I am not a USC (yet). Maybe next year……

          • 201MaryF says:

            Idk, RR. I have to go back tomorrow. My name was pre-selected by the judge for a trial that will run till Jan. 1. There were about 60 of us who were told after we filled out a questionaire. They told us, and then they let us go home. So freedom today, tomorrow, who knows.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          agreed – Rachel doesn’t look good in gowns!

  15. BambiBaby22 says:

    Ok, posters…I need some cheering up. A few months back we had to replace to transmission in our Tahoe and it was working fine. Now on the way to work, my husband said it will not move out of first gear. Looks like we might either a) have a big bill our hands or b) have to decide to give up the fight and get a new car.
    So your mission, if you choose to accept is to make me feel better by telling me how much better off I STILL am than Teresa!
    I can start by saying that at least my husband didn’t flip the truck….I just need a little reminder that although my financial goals are a bit disrupted as of now, I am still truly blessed (and blessed not to be Teresa)

    • error404 says:

      LOL!

      I assume you have a forehead!

      I assume you own the Tahoe, and it’s not getting repoed

      I assume you drive said Tahoe sober and wearing a seat belt. If you drive it on the highway while looking int he back seat at your bratty kid who’s not wearing a seatbelt, then you deserve the repair bill! 😛

    • dumberries says:

      Bambi, so sorry for your frustration ; unexpected expenses on the necessary items really suck. But, at least:
      1. your husband is not Juicy G
      2. you are not obsessed with your bubbies and chucky (I assume!)
      3. you and your hubby are smart and good enough people to realize that you will need to spend money to repair or purchase; you are not so corrupt and selfish that you plan on heisting a new vehicle and making someone else pay for it (I assume!)
      4. you are adored by the people in this on-line community (not abhorred, like Teresa)

      Take Care!!!!!

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        I’ll play along!

        Your stuff isn’t about to be auctioned off at a garage sale/auction for the world to see (yay!)…

        Your boobs aren’t suspiciously covering your armpits and cock-eyed like KKB.

        • BambiBaby22 says:

          And that reminds me, at least I don’t have “square tits”.

          • Pantry Viewer says:

            Whew! LOL!

          • Blue Sky says:

            And you did not “star” in your own sex tape, that has been released nation wide! Your car did not get re-possed. You don’t mindlessly twitter away all day…wow, there’s a lot to be thankful for. Hang in there, things will get better. Hugs to you!

        • nathania says:

          what is the cause of that ‘armpit boobs’ in women with implants, does anyone know? why does that happen and why can’t the doctors find a way to keep that from happening…

    • Hmmmm….you could live in Texas & drive a tin can that doesn’t have an air conditioner. Good luck, whichever way you go!

  16. dreemz says:

    Wall Street Lady, I’ve been busy & haven’t had time to read everything, I’ll go back later & look. I just saw what the Duchess wrote and wanted to be sure and let you know that I look forward to and enjoy your comments. It sounds like somone must have bullied you…..just think of them as a non-person. Please don’t let one idiot get to you. I love hearing about you and WSM, others do too! Oh, and now I’m curious about Marshall’s underwear!

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      As a Fat chick, I can recommend the Cacique line from Lane Bryant. Best Bra’s ever and the panties are very comfortable and hold up well to washing (colors don’t fade, etc.) Okay, I just cracked myself up, did you ever notice how often my posts come back to laundry? LOL

    • Jeepers says:

      yes, I have been wondering who & what “dutchess” was referring
      to myself. I have gone back through all the post for 2day & even
      yesterdays post, but still found nothing. Geez, am I going blind or
      something. Can someone help me out here?……………..Jeepers

      • 201MaryF says:

        I think it might be dumberries’s post above, with the numbers? She mentions Theresa’s lady parts – IDK.

        • dumberries says:

          My post above was light humor in support of Bambi. Not sure how it got interpreted as related to anything else.

          The post that Duchess was referring to (that insulted Wall Street Lady) and Lynn’s response is pasted below. Hope this clears things up.

          A NYer says:
          September 20, 2010 at 12:07 pm
          Wall Street Lady, you are giving many of us NY’ers a laugh with your posts. I think the other poster hit the nail on the head. Most people don’t have to post fables in order to impress internet strangers. A woman who is an important as you claim to be wouldn’t be spending all this time on this blog. You must be relieved that no one can check your claims. But NY’ers can see right through you.

          Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read especially on blogs.

          Carry on and you have a nice day.

          Reply
          LynnNChicago says:
          September 22, 2010 at 12:27 am
          A NYer

          If only you knew what you were talking about… claims can be checked and WSL is the real deal babe…Are you trying to say that NYers are smarter than the rest of the country? You just proved that theory wrong! So you may now carry on!

          Luckily no one feels the need to prove anything to you.

          • dumberries says:

            And the comments about undergarments from dreemz and the duchess in this thread relate to a previous post by WallStreetLady about by underwear at Marshall’s for 8 dollars (vs. $40 on HSN!). Thx…

          • 201MaryF says:

            I’m so confused. Dumberries, you posted in response to Bambi, then Dutchess posts about underwear, then Jeepers wants to know why we are talking about underwear. Then there is a whole separate issue about WSL and a bully from Monday? I’m completely lost here.

            • 201MaryF says:

              ok, now I get it. I do remember the conversation about underwear from a while ago. Thanks for your help.

              • dumberries says:

                Hi Mary – it was a confusing train. I think Jeepers was curious about the first post from Duchess (regarding WSL), and you thought that she was curious about Duchess’s more recent post about underwear. Lol! I think it’s all clear…

            • Kat says:

              But you’re sane. 😉
              It is hard to keep up at times.

              • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

                See what happens when underwear comes up! Maybe that is why my Grandma always called them “unmentionables” LMAO! Everyone straight on the thread now? If not, shoot back up to my original posting and follow the thread for a brief explanation! The underwear comment was in direct response to the post above it. And the laundry thing, well, I just seem to love to talk about laundry. Sick, Sad and true.

              • Kat says:

                @Duchess
                “If not, shoot back up to my original posting and follow the thread for a brief explanation”

                Pun intended? Brief explanation.

          • Jeepers says:

            OK, I took a much needed nap since I ask for help, I think I
            need to keep my fingers off this keyboard & just read. I seem
            to rile some people up a bit……..LOL
            Hey, I am what I am……I am honest to a fault, I have a way of
            saying things, that definitely pisses some people off. But I let it
            be his or her problem, not mine. I do not try to, nor would I ever
            try to hurt anyone’s feelings intentionaly (if I didn’t spell that last
            word correctly, tough shit). I put my 2 cents in whenever the mood
            strikes me. I love a good knock down debate & never back away on
            any subject that I have an opinion on. I say what I want, to whom I
            want. If someone doesn’t like it, to bad, as Bethenny says, “get over
            it,” I did. This is what makes my world go around……………..Jeepers

  17. Blue Sky says:

    Happy Birthday to Amber, Had Enough, Error, Ellabean, & Vilzet’s daughter! May you have many more.

    Had Enough, I believe you are correct that the husband’s really start the farty party after the marriage ceremony, not while dating! ROFLMAO, you are funny.

    Amber, don’t feel attacked. Usually people are pretty nice about “agreeing to disagree” on this site. I think maybe someone was having a bad day when the catfight started yesterday. Who knows what really goes on with Tamra & Simon. I always thought he was embarrassed by her, and tried to reign her in. Very controlling of him. I would never be a friend to either of them, because they are both equally disgusting!

    Lots of people defended you, so you know you are loved!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Thank you Blue Sky, I appreciate your kind words. And I agree with your thoughts on Tamra and Simon. They both seem to be awful human beings and in that relationship it was hard to decipher who really was the bad guy as they both appeared to be master manipulators. But as they say, no one knows what’s in the pot but the spoon that stirs it!

    • Happy B’day everyone! Wow were our mama’s busy this week year back. My b’day is tomorrow. Enjoy your cake!

      P.S. All red pens are put away and no more spelling errors are corrected. “I Hate Jill Zarin” blog is not a test, except for “Who do we hate?”

      • error404 says:

        New Year’s Eve followed by a cold January! lol

      • Had Enough! says:

        But I still get to hack on the KooKooLet’s crappy writing, right? That is taking my mind off other stuff and I really need that outlet. I’m trying to be funny with it and in case anyone has missed my saying so, it is NOT a comment on any of the posters here. Not unless some of you are posing as professional writers and editors. My point to the KooKooLet is that she is NOT real. She is a total phony, and her writing exposes one particular aspect of her phoniness – that she claims to be a professional writer and editor but she’s really nothing of the kind.

        I think I am going to start calling myself a supermodel. Just because I feel like it. I may be short and dumpy, but if she can call herself a writer, I can call myself a supermodel.

        • Kat says:

          Shall I bring a camera for the new “Bikini Book”?

          • MAMAZ says:

            HAd Enough – I’m with you on this. I can tolerate grammer mistakes by amateurs. I make plenty of them myself. But someone who claims to have a degree from Colombia, says she’s an editor and an author ought to have a better command of the English language.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Mothers were busy indeed! LMAO Happy Birthday to you!

        BTW you are not THE Melissa Gorga are you? LOL

  18. Steph says:

    but you guys saw what started the melissa gorga tweets about Theresa, right?

    Last night Theresa tweeted a photo of melissa w/ her son, implying that it was proof they are friends. But the pic was one that I saw on melissa’s twitter. So theresa steals it and implies that she snapped the pic but theresa and melissa probably ignored each other during bday party

    First Theresa tweeted:
    Guess who else was at Audriana’s small family party? My brother Joe, my sister-in-law Melissa and their gorgeous kids. xx
    about 17 hours ago via web

    Here’s a pic of Melissa & my baby nephew Joey at the party. Neither of them are black or not speaking to me. Hmm.. http://twitpic.com/2qqp7d
    about 17 hours ago via web

    Don’t you love little Joey’s outfit? I brought it to him when I visited him at the hospital. So much for those feud rumors… xx
    about 17 hours ago via web

    (and someone misunderstood this and thought she was saying something racist, so she tweeted:)

    @thelma228 Sorry, I explained on my blog on Bravo, there was a rumor that I didn’t visit Joey in the hospital b/c he & my SIL were black.
    about 16 hours ago via web

    @thelma228 SO ridiculous b/c I would never do that. I love everyone. And clearly completely untrue… xx PS–Is that your baby? Cutie!
    about 16 hours ago via web

    Sorry everyone–I explained on my blog on Bravo, there was a nasty rumor that I didn’t visit Joey in the hospital b/c he & my SIL were black
    about 16 hours ago via web

    I thought everyone had heard it by now. It’s SOOO ridiculous b/c I would NEVER do that. I love everyone. And clearly completely untrue… xx
    about 16 hours ago via web

    I guess Theresa forgot to tell Melissa about the cease fire, but a family member must have convinced her sometime between last night and this morning:

    Melissa tweeted:
    This is a first… What a JOKE!
    about 16 hours ago via web

    @Twilighttwitti Well I think we have never made it to a tweet or even a mention at all, why now… hmmmmm, good night!
    about 15 hours ago via web in reply to Twilighttwitti

    To everyone asking yes we were there, it was our nieces 1st birthday, we are not animals…
    about 15 hours ago via web

    Enough of this nonsense talk, It’s a gorgeous day (in Jersey at least) So lets go enjoy it!!
    about 5 hours ago via web

    All joking aside, the past is the past, everyone starts with a fresh slate, family is family, period.
    about 2 hours ago via web

    Excuse me, joking? are we supposed to believe you were joking when you posted things on your facebook in december, like that how she threw away the christmas cookies you brought over, told family members that she’s a celebrity, etc (at the time she said “someone” or “family member” instead of using Theresa’s name…I forget where I saw all of this posted)

    Clearly Theresa and Joe’s reputations can’t take much more…especially when we’re talking possible jail for BOTH parents for their bankruptcy scam. I think family members intervened because they knew that, if Melissa went into the next season w/ Theresa as an enemy, Theresa would look even worse than she already does. And clearly the tides have been turning against Theresa ever since the $11 million bankruptcy filing.

    BUT I think this will make next season even better because Melissa doesn’t suddenly like Theresa! She’s just caving to family pressure (any family member who cares about Theresa should beg Melissa to help repair her rep–this is a mom who could be leaving her 4 young daughters to go to jail! and I’m sure the family is also sick of hearing THEIR surname getting dragged through the mud because of Theresa & Joe’s stupidity). They’ve clearly known each other for years and they HATE each other. I think this will cause even more tension because they’ll hate having to fake it for cameras, and Melissa will get resentful that she’s helping someone who was a bitch to her for the past 10 years (or however long).

    I really think this is better drama. And when family is involved, things get much more serious–it’s not like Danielle, where Theresa could just say, “i’m not going to talk about her or think about her.” She’s forced to interact with this person, whereas she only had to interact with Danielle for fake tv-created situations. Imagine if the camera’s turned off and then she had to go sit across from Danielle for 3 hours on Thanksgiving.

    I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again: why would you ever want to be on a reality show?!

    I’d only want fame if
    1. I definitely had the money to go with it
    2. We were living in the 1940s where movie stars were Gods and cops would cover up crimes to protect them, and people from your past couldn’t get $10k for telling the enquirer that you were a pig as a roommate or something.

    Jeez. you shallow people, this is what you get. I’m shallow for watching, but at least I’m not narcissistic enough to want to do it.

    • Steph says:

      This is the tweet where Melissa first showed that photo of her and her son:

      Baby Joey! http://twitpic.com/2qbzd2
      8:06 AM Sep 20th via Twitpic

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Wow Steph, you went off! LOL Thanks for the update. In order to change Melissa’s tweets, I imagine there must have been a family meeting with alot of yelling, screaming and hand gestures, and that was only the kids!

      Imagine all the promises, pleading, drinking and swearing that went on. whew! Damn you BRAVO! Where are the cameras when we need them?

      • Had Enough! says:

        Much easier explanation. Teresa has to suck up to Melissa so she and the banshees will have someplace to live. Good thing Melissa’s mausoleum is twice as large as Mrs. Gorilla’s.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Folks, no one should expect Melissa G to engage in a twitter war with Teresa. They are related by family and what good would it serve except to aggravate real world stuff, however much it might appeal to the peanut gallery public who just wants to see shit stirred and thrown and doesn’t care about consequences? Presumably M’s more rational and concerned about her image (and her family) than Kim G. We’ll see.

      I suspect Melissa may try to take the high road (at least I would advise her to do so). First, it will drive T crazy who will try to outdo her and the effort will show, plus it’s only a matter of time before someone (T) acts out in some fashion…she’s got a trash mouth and I suspect it doesn’t really take much for her to lose it and use it. Especially with the anticipated fun filled fall….what’s to happen with the T & J’s possessions, will Kim G buy them at auction and sell them on Ebay, will the Gs be denied bankruptcy protection, will Juicy finally be caught and called out on his various shenanigans and his “my dog ate my homework” type lame excuses finally be revealed for the beyond effin stupid BS that they are? Will Jac be caught sneaking food out of all of their pantries and claim the Ambien made her do it? ( I just had to throw that one in there. 😉 )

    • nathania says:

      wow.this :

      @Twilighttwitti Well I think we have never made it to a tweet or even a mention at all, why now… hmmmmm, good night!
      about 15 hours ago via web in reply to Twilighttwitti

      speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

  19. Steph says:

    Oops, all this time I didn’t realize that Teresa doesn’t use an ‘h’ in her name. duh.

  20. Steph says:

    I just saw this on Teresa’s twitter and this is the only thing that’s ever made me like her:

    Um, it’s Dr. Zira…xx RT @PinkyFANATIC Kimgranatell r u INSANE! TMZ was THE 1st to say teresa looks like Dr. Cornelius from planet of apes!
    about 17 hours ago via web

    Having a sense of humor is the only way to deal with a situation like being compared to an ape. good for her.

    • dumberries says:

      Thanks for the info Steph!
      Teresa is not very savvy about media relations, to say the least. She insulted Joy Behar from the The View, George Lopez, and RadarOnline. She really put herself on the wrong side of major players in entertainment media and it’s not a strategic move, especially for someone with so many skeletons starting to fall out of the closet. But, looks like even she is smart enough not to mess with TMZ..

  21. “Am I becoming Taylor?” was the high point of last night’s show for me. Aw, poor widdle Bwad, now he has to act all responsible & stuff instead of getting paid to play all day with Rachel. Maybe, just maybe, Bwad, there was a freakin’ REASON Taylor was “mad” & in a bad mood all the time–you nitwits running around goofing off while she had to do most or all of the real work. And then the “Et tu, Brute” moment—when Brad & new chick decide to check out of work (WHILE ON THE JOB & GETTING PAID to stand around & do nothing) & whine about their hard-knock lives while Rachel decides to go rearrange the clothes (and then can’t find something—lol!!!!) Oh. I.could.die.from.laughing.my.butt.off.

    And Rodger, seriously, how many damn clues do you need? If Rachel is going to freak out that much over a damn blood test the doctor SHE picked said she should have, guess what? She doesn’t want to have a baby. With you. Or anyone.

    • I must have missed something last night, but I never quite understood why there was a need for this blood test in the first place. (perhaps Tay Sachs?) Women and teenagers get pregnant all the time without having a pre-pregnancy blood test. It’s called OOPS!

      Rachel said she wanted a baby, but yet was more convincing when she said she she wanted the Porsche Speedster last season.

    • nathania says:

      yep, what on earth was that freak out about????

      are there things that might show up that she doesn’t want anyone to know about? does she need to take a ‘cleansing regimen’ first? I don’t get it…most women at this age that are trying to conceive would take an arterial stick or a spinal tap if it meant it might get them pregnant faster (I watched my sister go through this trying to get pregnant in her late thirties and early forties, going through all the doctors and fertility specialists and finally deciding to use an egg donor and do in vitro, only to have the child born with a congenital condition for which the father was the genetic carrier…I remember their absolutely frantic nature and their frustrations and not being able to conceive, the child was in NICU and then the childrens hospital for a long time and the marriage did not survive, but thankfully my niece survived and is thriving, with possibly only one more surgery to endure)…anyway, I agree with what people have said, Rachel Zoe does not appear to want to conceive. I really feel for Roger…she doesn’t appear to realize that he could easily walk out of that marriage and find a 27 year old to bear him the children he wants, probably within months. I think she wants the marriage, and everything else, to stay just the way it is.

      I’m posting a link to my niece’s birth condition in case it might help someone, this is rare and often misdiagnosed:
      http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/844143-overview

      • TT in OC says:

        Rachel doesn’t want to get pregnant, at least not when this was filmed. Trust me, I know how a woman would act if she really wants to be a mom.

        • I know much of that discussion was cut in the editing room…if it was even filmed. It possibly was the most scripted part of the show since RZ has no intentions of having a child.

          But some of the things doctors suggest for women embarking on a planned pregnancy were not mentioned such as taking folic acid. That would have been easy, quick to mention and educational for the viewing audience.

          About the blood test, my daughter has PCOS, so I do understand the need for blood tests for pre existing conditions, but generally they prevent the pregnancy from every happening. It didn’t seem like R & RZ had ever made the move to try.

  22. Blue Sky says:

    Thanks for the re-caps of Thintervention Quincy. More Jeana Keough news

    Did you know Jeana was in the ZZ Top “She’s Got Legs” video?
    http://starcasm.net/archives/58740

    Here’s more recent photos of Jeana. She looks great!
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/keough-264873-warner-lose.html

    • dumberries says:

      She does look good. When I first saw the pic, I thought it was Angelina Jolie (she’s rocking the same hair and her face looks lighter than before). I hope getting physically healthy helps improve Jeanna’s self esteem. I’m routing for her…

    • quincyil says:

      I agree, she looks healthier. That is what Jackie Warner wanted for that group. She wanted them to change their lives. Jeanna states that she is eating healthier foods, drinking alcohol less, and exercising. She has to feel better about herself if she cares enough about herself to work at this change.

      • Had Enough! says:

        She looks phenomenal BUT Jeanna’s problem wasn’t lack of knowledge. She knew what to eat and she knew to exercise. She’d already had a personal trainer and a garage full of exercise equipment. She’d been to classes and the trainer had gone through her pantry.

        Like me. The issue isn’t knowledge. It is emotion. Stress for me. I think for Jeanne depression, and surely stress last year.

        From what I’ve read, Jackie’s plan is not a lifestyle that most people would be able to stick to. It is kind of extreme and even if you have the massive will power to make those changes, emotional eating can undermine it all. If a nutritionist walked into my house, they’d be really impressed. It isn’t what I’ve got in the pantry and the fridge that is the problem. All the blueberries in the world can’t do what one piece of cheesecake can do.

        • quincyil says:

          There was a therapist helping the cast in “Thintervention.” Perhaps, that made Jeanna reevaluate her lifestyle.

          I’m impressed that you already know that there is an emtional connection to cheesecake, girl. Jackie is a lot more understanding in that department than my trainer. Jackie allows two free meals on the weekend. She asks for her students to follow her plan 5 days a week.

          Weight watchers also allows you to save points for a weekend event.

          Bethenny would tell you to have a couple of bites of that blueberry cheesecake and savor every taste. Then stop. She states that after a few bites of a very rich cheesecake the senses dull and the pleasure is not as great. I haven’t tried it, but her explanation seems reasonable.

          I remember going to the Cheesecake Factory and having my daughter’s med school classmates share a piece of cheesecake because it was 900 calories. We had a great time and no one felt guilty.

          • Had Enough! says:

            My nutritionist said the same thing. She said if it is “calling to you” then wait a while. And if it still calls to you, then go ahead, because if you don’t, it will drive you nuts and eventually you will cave in and overeat. So then have SOME, just enough until you are no longer rolling your eyes and having orgasms. Which is usually a few bites, generally no more than half the slice, occasionally sometimes an entire slice. And then stop. Now here’s where it gets Zarinish: throw the rest away. Yes, I know. But my health is important, too, so I guess it is just something I have to do. And my nutritionist was right and so is Bethenny on this point. Now that they are selling single-slice servings of stuff, and tiny ice cream cups, it makes it a lot easier. If you BUY JUST ONE.

            • Blue Sky says:

              I have emotional eating problems, & find it is harder to take one bite & stop. It’s better for me to not eat it at all. I try to eat fruit, yogurt (plain non-fat), walnuts & a little honey if the fruit isn’t sweet enough. That’s better for me than chocolate fudge ice cream! Exercising every day is a must for me too, because it suppresses my appetite. And it does something to my brain, so I feel better about myself. It’s so hard, every day is a challenge. I can go months & months, lose lots of weight, then go off the plan…just to see weight come back, so I have to start all over again. I was so fit & thin for years, but after 45 it has become a battle. Thank you to those who have posted about their success (esp. Quincy) because it really gives me hope!

              • quincyil says:

                Do you keep a food journal? I think it’s so important. I make a line down the center and on the left I record foods and one the right I record exercise, extras that I did like brush 6 horses, housework, gardening…. and cool things like looking at Orion rising in the sky or the moon was so red. I love the right side of that page so much that the left side becomes less important. I even draw sketches and sometimes make paintings from the right side.

            • quincyil says:

              I purchased tiny ben and jerries ice cream for my husband. I buy one a week because he didn’t want to give up treats. It’s fun for him to see which one I purchased. This week it’s pistacio. LOL

            • Ione says:

              Had Enough, I agree with your “game plan” but my husband believes in buying 2 instead of one, and buying multiple instead of a single items. I’ve tried explaining to him that as a food addict, I can’t have multiple goodies available. That I have to have a small portion of something I crave to reduce going crazy episodes of over indulging. Wish I could get him “on board”.

              • quincyil says:

                I think you need to have him place junk food in his own secret place. Perhaps, a locked suitcase will do. Biometric locks are nice too.

                My husband has a stash of pistacios and gaz, an Iranian candy somewhere in this house. Who knows, he may be keeping it in his car. Every once in a while I catch him having a snack. LOL.

              • Blue Sky says:

                Quincy, I do keep an exercise & food journal, & it works. It’s when I quit writing things down that I get into trouble! I ask my husband to keep things at work, or hide them too. The problem is our teenage son. He wants snacks in the house, so I just try to get him stuff I don’t like. I don’t understand my problem, I guess sugar is like a drug for me. I’m going to get Jackie Warner’s book. The hard part is that I did look good for so many years. Sometimes I think I’m depressed, and maybe the exercise helps with that. And this blog helps too!

  23. jean says:

    Happy Birthday to this weeks birthday pals.

  24. Blue Sky says:

    Just like to say I like reading OneMoreInBoston’s posts, and I like Amber’s views too. They had a spat, okay it’s over….can you both play nice in our LynFam sandbox now? Lol, love you both. We have a diverse group here, and it’s okay to disagree. Don’t expect you to “kiss & make up” but please both of you, keep giving us your point of views, and it’s all water under the bridge or something like that. Peace out, it’s a great day, going to pull weeds outside now on this gorgeous day in Jersey land.

  25. jean says:

    ZZ top? now I feel super old.

  26. dumberries says:

    Looks like the Maury makeover episode with Ramona, Danielle and NeNe will air tomorrow. Interesting choice of housewives to have on the same show?!

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/09/real-housewives-offer-makeovers-on-maury.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+ShowTracker+(L.A.+Times+-+Show+Tracker)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ramona is going to feel really nervous being with those she devil divas! lol And I thought that Ramona was aready renewed????

      • dumberries says:

        Lol Windy. Ramona must have been exercising her highest degree of self control that day (though the tabloids claimed she was the biggest on-set diva). I think the Bravo HWs will be helping average housewives to make themselves over on the show…

    • Savannah111 says:

      You know I loved Nene season 1 but now talk about someone that let all this go to your head no question about it she has changed so much she’s no longer the same person I came to like in season 1.

  27. DWandM says:

    Lynn, You birthday wish to your friends is so sweet. I wish you all the best, you deserve it.

    Arl

  28. Katie says:

    Sorry to double post but I wanted to make sure amber saw this post:
    Amber since I responded to your post I assume you are including me in the “gang bang.” I have never called you or anyone else a name, insulted your intelligence, pointed out grammatical errors on any post, nor am I affiliated with a larger conspiracy to moderate/control Lynn’s blog. 

    There were multiple responses that disagreed (as well as agreed) with you. I think it is a stretch to assume that because multiple people disagree with you, that they are all willing participants in a “gang bang” against you.

    I understand that you don’t like Tamara. At times I  thought some of the things she did on the show were horrendous, and at times I felt badly for her situation. But I remain ambivalent towards her because I don’t know her.

    But I digress. I believe it is destructive to all women to tie a woman’s promiscuity, perceived or factual, with assumptions  about unrelated behavior/actions.

    If the infrequent occasion arises that I feel the need to
    disagree with a post, I dissect it to further to understand the poster’s opinion. I try to remain open to understanding the rationale behind issues that I disagree with because there are often valid points that I didn’t consider.

     My response to you stated that I didn’t understand how you concluded that was Tamara was abusing the legal system because she is a slut (your words.) 

    I felt your response to me was condescending.  You claimed that you previously said something that you didn’t and then  preceded to tell me I wasn’t paying attention.  My subsequent reply was snarky defense to your comment about my lack of attention, and perhaps an even snarkier remark about how you chose to articulate it. 

    I apologize if you were hurt by it. 

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Fine Katie. Let’s let it go. This blog is supposed to be fun and I don’t want to be responsible for anyone thinking otherwise. I thank you and understand that I may not have totally explained one point before moving on. It happens.

      I want to continue posting without feeling as if i’m being stalked. LMAO Slowly I turn, step by step….LOL

      • Had Enough! says:

        I think we need a circuit breaker on this blog. Whenever things get a bit tense, someone has to jump in and yell AL SHARPTON AL SHARPTON! And then everyone else has to change the subject or walk away from their computer for at least 2 hours.

        What does everyone think of this idea?

        (Do you walk around in public saying Housewife stuff like Kadooz or if you see some melons hanging out, you say something like cleavalege alert? I do this all the time and so far no one has asked me about it. Maybe there are more closet Housewife watchers than we think there are. But then again, I have yet to yell AL SHARPTON AL SHARPTON).

  29. quincyil says:

    If Teresa deserves a fresh start, so does everyone here…

    • Kat says:

      Quincy, the voice of reason. I can’t argue with you. Wouldn’t.
      BTW Lynn took care of the issue we were talking about last night. 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        Thanks so much. This technical stuff with computers takes so much time.

        You and Lynn have given me a gift and I am grateful.

  30. Jen says:

    I must say I disagree about Melissa suddenly ‘liking’ Teresa bc of 1 tweet- their family and in some families u can dislike someone ( greatly even) but still pull back at times to keep peace, maybe it’s as simple as Melissa does dislike T but also doesn’t want all out war with her inlaws, so maybe it’s not a cave to family pressure but her reality- (just sayin’ bc I have some experience with SIL’s I don’t always adore but no desire to put constant stress on my hubby and inlaws)

    • quincyil says:

      I have eight sister in laws and three sisters. I tend to listen and not add to the conversations. That way, I stay out of trouble.

  31. Buffywood says:

    Yet again I am going off topic. Has anyone here ever used RueLaLa or Guilt Groupe to purchase things? I really love to get massages and facials but yet don’t like the spend big bucks to do so. I have gotten massage/facials cheaply through these two sites for both Exhale Spa and The Sports Club LA (the one in UES) and LOVED them.

    Of course for people with other addictions (shoes, belts, jewelry, handbags, etc) they have designer stuff greatly discounted as well, I just don’t have that addiction.

    I just wanted to pass this along.

    • quincyil says:

      Never heard of them, but I’m interested.

      • Buffywood says:

        They are both on-line “members” only shopping boutiques. They will run short sales for various retailers at a discounted price. I really don’t shop that much but I’ve purchased Oakley sunglasses for my ex, BCBG and Juicy Couture for my daughter, and Dolce & Gabbana as a gift for someone at really reduced prices. It doesn’t really take anything to be a member, except sign-up. They may say there is a wait list to become a member but it is just a marketing ploy to make it seem special.

        The web sites are http://www.ruelala.com and http://www.gilt.com

    • Katie says:

      Hautelook is great too.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Now how does someone lose weight, wear more makeup, do their hair differently and look WORSE?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      it’s the hair style that makes the difference!

    • Blue Sky says:

      Does Caroline realize how ridiculous she looks in that strapless blue dress, cray cray hair & make-up? The “before” picture is more natural, guess that’s why I like it better! Please Caroline, get someone to style you who knows what they are doing – not your daughter!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        that may be the problem – her daughter as her stylist. Caroline isn’t looking age appropriate and it doesn’t appear that she is “happy” with her looks anymore – her smile has all but disappeared.

  32. boston02127 says:

    Is Jill’s shirt suppose to be funny? I don’t get it.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      No EFFIN WAY! In season 1, Jill went with Bethenny to look at condos for B and Jason 1.0. Anyway, Jill wore this God-Awful, hideous suede outfit and the “Cher called and she wants her outfit back” was a zinger from Bethenny to Jill.
      If this pic of Jill and Bobby was recent, Jill is more pathetic than I imagined!

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        oh yeah! I remember that! And this is her BEST response? Delayed response? Oh brother…reach much?

        • 201MaryF says:

          Yep, I remember it too. I don’t remember what Jill was wearing, but it had to be pretty bad.

          • OneMoreinBoston says:

            It was a red(?) pantsuit with embellishments down the sides of the pants, high heeled boots that matched and I think a matching embellished jacket.

            It looked very expensive, but was very matchy matchy.

            ironically I really liked the way Jill dressed when the RH first came on. Now…not so much.

      • boston02127 says:

        Thx Bambi—-I remember now. 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The shirt isn’t the joke, the joke is who is wearing it!

  33. BKAamia009 says:

    Who is the Guest blogger referring to when she says “J”? Example I copied Maybe Brad thinks that if there is no more material for drama he can bring up Taylor as a back up J.

  34. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s best pic of last year.

  35. boston02127 says:

    Pic’s to compare.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Man again with this? How do you lose weight, wear more makeup (in this case MORE makeup) do your hair differently and look WORSE?

      With Jill- her skin has lost alot of elasticity- she needs to stop with the pouring water on her food and eat something nutricious.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Looks like she borrowed one of LuAnn’s necklaces.

      • quincyil says:

        How old is Jill now?

      • anniieee says:

        OneMoreIn Boston—sent this to you upthread..Had to fix dinner for my mom, etc..etc… and missed it. Again my apologies..did not mean to come across that way.

        @onemore in Boston–apologies to you if I sounded flippant. Did not mean to come off that way at all. Just my humble opinion from this crazy family I am in–that I learned–to smile and walk away–the more I tried to make my point–the more I got ragged on. It was just easier to walk away. I most certainly did not mean to suggest that my way is the only way..just trying to lighten the intensity for the moment. Had a bad afternoon with “ex relatives” and was trying on a mantra to make myself feel better. No one should ever make personal attacks–I am with you on that… and again, my humble apology to you for upsetting you.

    • Blue Sky says:

      This is fun Boston, thanks for the pic’s. Even when she’s all dolled up, Jill is still ugly. Can’t change what’s inside, & boy does her “evilness” shine through.

  36. Katie says:

    Does Lynn have a public email address?

    • nathania says:

      I have always had a theory that having hips is like a mortal sin if you are a female above 30 and them asking KKB to pose for Playboy is just confirmation of that. I so don’t get it, it seems to me that any man who finds her sexy must have some latency. Of all the housewives they could have asked…why her? It’s bizarre.

  37. LynnNChicago says:

    http://lynnnchicago.blogspot.com/

    I posted a new (old) blog from April 23, had a lot of comments included 🙂 Enjoy!

  38. LynnNChicago says:

    Check out “N.J. Housewife Danielle Staub’s Ex-Husband: I’ll Destroy Her!”

    http://bit.ly/9Ssle5 (from @eonline)

    • boston02127 says:

      I’ve read the book by Maher. He’s no better than Danielle. He’s been a macker all his life. In and out of jail, drugs, theft. He married Danielle!
      I’m surprised the courts don’t find that this case is a waste of time.

    • nathania says:

      Yikes…he is an attorney’s worst nightmare I think. Accuses someone of being a monster, then she responds, ‘no, he’s a monster’, so he takes to the press to prove her right.

  39. anniieee says:

    Boston–thanks for the laughs! And GodJilla is still so pathetic. She can carry a grudge–like this blog won’t remember one of Bethenny’s snarks? How RUUUDE of her..yeah she wants to be friends again. Oh I hate Jill Zarin… she is a digusting pig of a human being without an ounce of anything…god I can’t even think..that TShirt made me so disgusted. Has anyone tweeted it to Bethenny? (evil smile as she rubs her hands together) forgive me..

    • Kat says:

      I hate JZ too and lol @ me as I almost forgot all about her!
      I can’t wait for 60 degree days. I love fall.

  40. boston02127 says:

    Claud’s tweet—- Sneak peak at my new closet. Think I may just sleep on the chase every night. I’m in LOOOVVEE. Love my hubby!! http://plixi.com/p/46557624

    Dina—Why the extreme closet? Do you really think you need an excessive amount of clothing and accessories when all you do all day is sit on your fat butt all day and beg for money on twitter? Your pretend husband built that for his pleasure.

  41. quincyil says:

    Lynn questioned the mysterious NYers that visited out little group asking them if they thought we were not as smart as they are?

    I wonder if the NYers think we are unworthy of having an internet friendship with a NYer of prominence. Are you NYers up there and the rest of the nation down here?

    I think it’s admirable that WSL doesn’t think the way you think.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Oh, Quincy – you are making it too easy for me to step in deep doodoo here. I’ll just ask you if you ever saw the famous New Yorker cover with a map called “The World as Seen from New York’s Ninth Avenue” (google it). And this was at a time when no New Yorker would EVER go west of 7th Avenue … much less 8th, 9th, or 10th ave.

      I used to be a total snob about the midwest and then I visited Kansas City and fell in love with it. And Bloomington, Indiana. Loved it. Ditto St. Louis. Have to admit that Urbana Champaign didn’t do much for me.

      It is a totally different culture, that’s for sure. That whole Minnesota nice thing really is something I’m not used to. New Yorkers are brusque but they will give you the shirts off their backs. If you ask directions, they will walk you there, even if they were heading in the other direction.

      • quincyil says:

        I’ve only been in NYC once. We learned right away to get to the side of the street if we needed to pause to figure out our directions. We stayed in Times Square and even in the late night, the streets were packed.

        While waiting for the hotel elevator, a German man stepped on my leg as he was climbing over me. A New York man, pulled me into the elevator and berated the German man while we went up the the hotel lobby. LOL. I had never heard such language and I lived in Chicago for years.

  42. anniieee says:

    OT—as i pull both feet out of my mouth… and say this to myself…

    Dear Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth…Amen.

    If I offended… I am sorry. Have a nice evening everyone.

  43. Sandie says:

    Oops, I was responding to Nathania regarding her 3:09 post, by the time I typed it all out…….wayyyyy down the line 😀

  44. Katie says:

    Hi Lynn,
    I sent you an email. I have never sent one before so it might be in your junk box.

    On a side note, I have enjoyed many of the witty and snarky comments on this blog. I wish you all the best.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Katie, I responded this earlier, on your second post.

      Fine Katie. Let’s let it go. This blog is supposed to be fun and I don’t want to be responsible for anyone thinking otherwise. I thank you and understand that I may not have totally explained one point before moving on. It happens.

      I want to continue posting without feeling as if i’m being stalked. LMAO Slowly I turn, step by step….LOL

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        to @Amber…Real Wife

        So someone’s leaving here because of this.

        You lectured all of us earlier today. Now it’s my turn.

        Do not post if you don’t expect to be disagreed with.

        If someone disagrees with you, do not attack them because you are unable to defend your position.

        Do not lecture to others unless they are rules that you yourself are willing to follow.

        Don’t call people rude and abrasive or pull a Kelly and claim that you are being bullied when other poster’s position is different than yours.

        Try, just try a little bit, to be nicer to those who disagree with you. You have no idea the shoes someone else has had to walk in or the road they’ve had to take. No one needs to come here to be abused.

        • quincyil says:

          Lynn’s rules are easier… LOL.

          Let’s all hate Jill Zarin….

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          *sigh*

          Why should anyone leave? Would it have been okay had I left like many others? Let it go and all can move on. Keep responding to posts in the style that you are accustomed to. No one can change you. Understood. Likewise, i’ll continue to post and if not understood…so be it.

          • OneMoreinBoston says:

            And now you’re implying that I am rigid and inflexible.

            Yet when a poster like @Stanbo disagreed with me and debated me with a well thought out and logical argument I have changed my opinion and said so publicaly.

            No one is taking issue with your opinions.

            I AM taking issue with your disrespect and playing the victim when you are called out on your nonsense.

            Why do you keep telling me and Katie to let it go and to “keep it moving”?

            I don’t want Katie to leave or you either for that matter.

            all I want is for you to stop taking it personally when someone disagrees with your opinion. And by taking it personally I mean attacking those that disagree with you.

          • Jenni says:

            Amber does not seem to be attacking in this post.

            @Amber- Your point today has been well made, though I missed what happened the last few days. Liking your point of view about keeping it civil amoungst ourselves. Bravo!

            • OneMoreinBoston says:

              You’re right she’s not attacking in THIS post- go up thread a little and you’ll see what we’re talking about.

              I also like her point of view-except she doesn’t follow it herself.

              • Jenni says:

                Thanks OMIB for explaining. I will not have a chance to look, because I am glued to the Top Chef thing right now, hoping the pea puree mystery will be solved!

                Do you think we will ever know what happened?

      • Katie says:

        Honestly someone must have slipped something in my coffee this morning.  Lynn I never knew how hard it would be to quit you. Obviously my will power sucks today, but I have to comment
        because this is asinine.

        Amber, this was not about you.  Your name is not mentioned anywhere. I simply wanted to leave on a good note.

        But since you were compelled to comment…
        This morning I apologized to you because your feelings were hurt because I said that it was illogical to 1) assume that a woman is promiscuous 2) assume that because she is promiscuous that she will lie and manipulate the legal system.

        This has nothing to do with Tamara. But I stand by the fact that I believe this logic is flawed and dangerous.

        You were less than gracious after I apologized. In fact apparently you grew blog balls and proceeded to be 
        fairly combative. You made several accusations that are simply untrue, and  have yet to substantiate them.

        You were also disrespectful to others who may have been passionate about there opinions, but again, didn’t attack you. 

        It is hypocritical for you to preach respect and courtesy when you are hostile towards other posters.

    • oopsy says:

      Katie I hope you are not leaving. I always enjoy your posts.

  45. quincyil says:

    So.. while cooking, I watch Rachel Zoe a second time.

    Why did Rodger take the job with RZD? He hates fashion. Surely, he knows that they are living off Rachel’s business and that she is the primary breadwinner. That’s no small chunk of stress because they have several employees, an office building, travel expenses, and lifestyle to maintain in order to keep up with the movie star group. Rachel doesn’t turn down last minute jobs because you can’t turn people away. If you say, “No,” they will be ticked off and bad mouth you. It’s as simple as that.

    I think the Zoes need a surrogate with a viable ovum. Perhaps, they can hire the surrogate to be up all night and all day nursing the baby. Perhaps, the suurogate can raise the child. Hopefully, Rachel would take the time to design the baby’s wardrobe.

    • error404 says:

      It was never explained why he joined. I think either his business failed, or she just begged him so badly he finally gave in. Either way, it was clearly not ideal. Despite the doofy “boy band” hair and metrosexualism, I find Roger macho.. the type that would have a problem being “Mr Rachel Zoe”.

  46. Jenni says:

    I wonder if we will find out what happened to the pea puree tonight???????

  47. error404 says:

    I don’t get all the Brad Hate (TM)

    Those who think Taylor did all the work the past 2 years, either know these people personally and therefore should dish, or were watching a different show than the one shown on my TV. News flash, screaming at the new kid “Why don’t you know this?!?! You’ll just have to teach yourself like I did!!” is like the rally cry for bad managers everywhere. Taylor couldn’t lead a dog to a bone, let alone manage staff. We’ll never hear of her again, I’m sure.

    Those who find him spoiled and whinny clearly are lucky and have never worked for a crazy Diva. You guys must be accountants or something, because “creative” fields are full of bad bosses who are successful people who wake you out of a sound sleep and then sit on your bed because their husbands won’t listen to them babble, people who keep changing their minds for no apparent reason making you work long days for no apparent reason other than they are 1 dimensional and don’t have a life outside of work. Brad will always be able to say he worked for RZ, but boy, is he paying for it.

    • boston02127 says:

      error–o/t —-Did you read The Bucolic Plague?

    • Jenni says:

      LOL, you make me wish I WERE an accountant! I will have to look into that!

    • quincyil says:

      It’s shocking that these employees are abused in this way.

      On a web site called zap it, I read that Rachel had tweeted something mean about Brad. I looked and it wasn’t there. I think she was ticked off that Taylor would criticize her on national TV and now Brad is doing it. Does anyone think Rachel could take Brad’s comments well?

    • cusi77 says:

      Error_ I agree 100%… Gosh! Been there, done that!

    • dumberries says:

      Good points. Working for creative bosses is probably a whole different world than working in a more conventional corporate or office environment. I know that I would never want Brad’s job.

      Regarding Taylor, I did find it odd that she was such a major topic of conversation in the first few episodes, but didn’t think less of Brad for it. I did think it was unprofessional of Rachel, but again, there is probably different criteria for “professionalism” in small creative circles.

  48. Amber...Real Wife says:

    If anyone enjoys campy humor, (I do, I do lol), please give Modern Family a try. On right now, eastern time. It’s won many emmys. See you guys later! 🙂

  49. error404 says:

    OMG! Is “Sister Wives” for real?

    • CdnFillie says:

      That’s a load of BS. I understand that Simon should not have allegedly thrown anything at her, much less a dog leash…but really is it worth a restraining order? Is it worth putting her kids through something like this? Does anyone else think she’s a famewhore at anyone’s cost??????
      Before anyone jumps down my throat, I don’t condone any abuse of any kind towards anybody, male or female…but the seriousness of this incident in particular to me is very questionable at best when it involves any of these RH..and it pisses me off because there are more serious cases of abuse out there that are being ignored and or disregarded because of frivolous acts like this….ok done the vent AL SHARPTON

      • Adgirl says:

        I’ll bite.
        I agree! My former husband (we were together 15 yrs) could get really out of hand, and yes violent on occasion. Mostly he just bruised up his knuckles pounding walls, and once he broke his fist. Yes, he touched me and sometimes slapped me.
        He attended anger management courses to teach him how to control his wild Irish temper and things improved greatly in our home.
        I am NOT MAKING LIGHT of domestic abuse, or excusing my ex-Kevin.
        However, now that I middle aged I can appreciate the difference between a scary dangerous violent controlling domineering bastard and someone who is essentially have a temper tantrum and throws the dog leash or slams the door so hard it falls off the hinges.
        Also, to get some of the ladies here really on my case I will disclose that I was a smart mouth nasty sarcastic bitch.

        I think Simon is something of a control freak (especially as Tamra’s behavior deteriorated into scummy territory).
        I don’t think he is the horrible man people make him out to be.
        I think he rather sad and once they lost money the pressure inside their home became unbearable. Also, how humiliating is it that your wife is getting a fat check and your not? Everyone knows because she is on tv talking about your unemployed ass. And to top it off she is awarded for her nasty behavior with more screen time!
        Pretty obvious where this train was heading.

        On the zero tolerance scale:
        10 Heroin/Crack
        9 Speed/ LSD
        8 Oxycontin
        7 Marijuana
        6 Jack Daniels
        5 Skinny Girl Marg
        4Pinot Grigio
        3 Codeine cough syrup <- Simon Barney
        2 Tylenol PM
        1 Midol

        I'd place

        • nathania says:

          I felt like he was always being controlling and emotionally abusive to her. I wasn’t always crazy about Vicky but I felt in that case she was right about Simon. He said nasty things to Tamra unprovoked on a regular basis.

      • It seems that the Barney’s have gotten to the point they can’t exchange their children without a fight. So they need to find a neutral place to do it, and have someone else handle the trade off without the parents ever seeing each other to protect their children from this insanity and not resorting to frivolous reports.

        The cynic in me wonders if this drama was played out for the Bravo cameras.

  50. Had Enough! says:

    I am cracking up at the lady chef from Miami. She is really good at deflecting questions with humor and when asked about the history between her and Meshy Bernstein, she says, “well a long time ago, she stole my pea puree….”

    Like I said: just yell AL SHARPTON AL SHARPTON and change the subject.

    • Jenni says:

      Too funny and good advice I hope I will remember!

    • TEB says:

      Did what I could upthread. AL SHARPTON!!

    • nathania says:

      crap I missed it, I knew there was something I meant to watch, just to find out what happened to the pea puree. what I don’t understand is that was on tape, wasn’t it? why wasn’t the guy eliminated right then, if he did steal it?

  51. Had Enough! says:

    Oh these Top Chef outtakes are FREAKING HYSTERICAL. TOO BAD THEY DO AN ENTIRE HOUR OF THE OUTTAKES.

  52. Had Enough! says:

    Buona sera! Bonne nuit! Buenos noches! A la manana! Muy temprano en la manana!

    Ciao, Sra. WSL! Te amo! Sra Lynn – tu esta la mejor!

  53. cusi77 says:

    Bostoncito_ Do you really mean it? haaa

    To everyone: remember to go to blogspot and hit the adds!

  54. cusi77 says:

    Nighty Boston!

  55. AZ Girl says:

    Watching Top Chef Just Desserts and someone needs to tell Seth to “man up” . What a wimp. Breaks down crying…no sobbing over a quick fire? He needs a therapist in a major way.

    • Realife says:

      He’s emotionally unstable and a mama’s boy to boot. He actually cried into the female judge’s shoulder and whimpered “my mommy”. He needs to leave…

  56. cusi77 says:

    Buenas noches Had enough! Hasta manana! Ciao Bella Buona sera! A bien tot!

  57. Jeepers says:

    my canasta game is starting in a few minutes, so “I’ll be back”
    wasn’t that nice of me to let you know?…….LOL……..Jeepers

  58. Blue Sky says:

    Just gonna stand there
    And watch me burn
    But that’s alright
    Because I like
    The way it hurts
    Just gonna stand there
    And hear me cry
    But that’s alright
    Because I love
    The way you lie
    I love the way you lie
    I love the way you lie

    I can’t tell you what it really is
    I can only tell you what it feels like
    And right now there’s a steel knife
    In my windpipe
    I can’t breathe
    But I still fight
    While I can fight
    As long as the wrong feels right
    It’s like I’m in flight
    High of a love
    Drunk from the hate
    It’s like I’m huffing paint
    And I love it the more that I suffer
    I sufficate
    And right before im about to drown
    She resuscitates me
    She fucking hates me
    And I love it
    Wait
    Where you going
    I’m leaving you
    No you ain’t
    Come back
    We’re running right back
    Here we go again
    It’s so insane
    Cause when it’s going good
    It’s going great
    I’m Superman
    With the wind in his bag
    She’s Lois Lane
    But when it’s bad
    It’s awful
    I feel so ashamed
    I snap
    Who’s that dude
    I don’t even know his name
    I laid hands on her
    I’ll never stoop so low again
    I guess I don’t know my own strength

    Just gonna stand there
    And watch me burn
    But that’s alright
    Because I like
    The way it hurts
    Just gonna stand there
    And hear me cry
    But that’s alright
    Because I love
    The way you lie
    I love the way you lie
    I love the way you lie

    You ever love somebody so much
    You can barely breathe
    When you’re with them
    You meet
    And neither one of you
    Even know what hit ’em
    Got that warm fuzzy feeling
    Yeah them chills
    Used to get ’em
    Now you’re getting fucking sick
    Of looking at ’em
    You swore you’ve never hit ’em
    Never do nothing to hurt ’em
    Now you’re in each other’s face
    Spewing venom
    And these words
    When you spit ’em
    You push
    Pull each other’s hair
    Scratch, claw, bit ’em
    Throw ’em down
    Pin ’em
    So lost in the moments
    When you’re in ’em
    It’s the rage that took over
    It controls you both
    So they say it’s best
    To go your separate ways
    Guess that they don’t know ya
    Cause today
    That was yesterday
    Yesterday is over
    It’s a different day
    Sound like broken records
    Playin’ over
    But you promised her
    Next time you’ll show restraint
    You don’t get another chance
    Life is no Nintendo game
    But you lied again
    Now you get to watch her leave
    Out the window
    Guess that’s why they call it window pane

    Just gonna stand there
    And watch me burn
    But that’s alright
    Because I like
    The way it hurts
    Just gonna stand there
    And hear me cry
    But that’s alright
    Because I love
    The way you lie
    I love the way you lie
    I love the way you lie

    Now I know we said things
    Did things
    That we didn’t mean
    And we fall back
    Into the same patterns
    Same routine
    But your temper’s just as bad
    As mine is
    You’re the same as me
    But when it comes to love
    You’re just as blinded
    Baby please come back
    It wasn’t you
    Baby it was me
    Maybe our relationship
    Isn’t as crazy as it seems
    Maybe that’s what happens
    When a tornado meets a volcano
    All I know is
    I love you too much
    To walk away though
    Come inside
    Pick up your bags off the sidewalk
    Don’t you hear sincerity
    In my voice when I talk
    Told you this is my fault
    Look me in the eyeball
    Next time I’m pissed
    I’ll aim my fist
    At the dry wall
    Next time
    There will be no next time
    I apologize
    Even though I know it’s lies
    I’m tired of the games
    I just want her back
    I know I’m a liar
    If she ever tries to fucking leave again
    I’mma tie her to the bed
    And set the house on fire

    Just gonna stand there
    And watch me burn
    But that’s alright
    Because I like
    The way it hurts
    Just gonna stand there
    And hear me cry
    But that’s alright
    Because I love
    The way you lie
    I love the way you lie
    I love the way you lie Thanks Emnem, what a tribute to domestic violence….night all

  59. error404 says:

    Dear Bravo TV:

    I just want to watch my Top Chef Just Deserts show in peace. What I don’t want is to have to sit thru some dumbass housewife who thinks I care what she thinks spew her conservative agenda on me, played over and over again adnausium. Lady I don’t even know which housewife you are, I just know I want you off my tv screen!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I assume you’re talking about the preview clips for RHODC, Stacie (that’s her name) is going to say she doesn’t believe in gay marriage. That is going to be quite a debate …

      Bravo is really good at beating to death their ads, aren’t they?

      • nathania says:

        yeah, they are moderates apparently, Obama is against gay marriage too I think. They have a right to their opinion…it just shouldn’t affect my life.

  60. Wall St Lady says:

    Can I b Sheriff of the grammar police ? MaryF u can b head deputy &
    Since Olivia said :
    “I did not come here for a college education, I have already done that. ” U could give out the sentences for offenders.
    (I suggest time outs off the blog would b sufficient )
    That means no jail time for anyone.Sorry Juicy
    Hooray !

  61. Wall St Lady says:

    CdnFillie on September 22, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    Where have u been ? Been missing U !

  62. Wall St Lady says:

    Butter is a fruit ?
    Is ur moniker from South Park like Butter’s Mother another LynnFam missing in action lately.

    ** Duchess r u still here. I have a post for u 🙂

  63. dumberries says:

    Simon Barney’s side of the story. He claims he was set-up and Tamra used the incident to immediately file for 100 percent custody so she can let Bravo film their small children without his consent. He wouldn’t allow them to be featured in the past (except a couple of quick shots, I think) and hadn’t planned on changing that stance. Tamra did have her older son from a previous marriage in many episodes. I have no idea who’s telling the truth or if the truth lies somewhere in the middle of their individual versions, I wasn’t there and I think the whole thing is plain sad. But, it’s good to hear both sides of any story.
    http://pedrowatcher.ocregister.com/2010/09/22/simon-barney-responds-to-housewifes-charg/27364/

    Have a good night…

    • nathania says:

      yeah, I’m sure that is the only reason she’s filing for custody…

      good grief.

      he’s the one that wanted a public apology on facebook from the older son. he also wanted her to stay at home full-time, when he HAD given permission for them to be filmed, which would have meant the kids would have had much more exposure to the cameras.

  64. Wall St Lady says:

    Seems I am the only one up.
    Grrrrr no one to play with.
    I never go to sleep till 1 or 2 & get up at 6 – 8.

    • dumberries says:

      Hi WSL!!

      I was getting ready to log off and was just thinking about how many legal matters are underway with HWs where Bravo is somehow involved. I think it’s kinda scary. There’s Caroline testifying against Danielle in the defamation suit, Dina allegedly involved in some kind of contractual issue concerning authorization for Lexi to film, Simon Barney now claiming that filming for Bravo is a factor in his custody battle.. Bravo must be the favorite network for a lot of attorneys out there…

  65. Wall St Lady says:

    Gosh don’t forget my favorites ,the gorillas.
    Sweet sweet dreams sweet smartberry !

    • dumberries says:

      WSL: I thought about the Gorillas, but so far none of their legal woes involve Bravo as a (named) direct party or indirect party. In the case of these long-standing criminals, Bravo is only guilt of bringing these grifters into our living rooms.

      Sweet dreams from San Francisco to New York City………………..

  66. Jeepers says:

    Well isn’t this the shits!
    I go play a few hands of cards, and everyone leaves, oh well,
    I left before I said something snarky, so now you just have to
    wait for it to happen again, as I am sure it will………Jeepers

  67. Steph says:

    more cryptic tweets from melissa gorga. guess no one in the family is pressuring her to stop tweeting her disbelief?

    What a day, can a leopard change its spots? I’m not to sure yet…
    about 5 hours ago via web

  68. Had Enough! says:

    OK, everyone. WAKE UP!

  69. Had Enough! says:

    Mrs. Gorilla is coming to Chicago! Lynn! Time to organize a reception.

  70. butterisafruit says:

    Now that Dina/Claud and Danielle are gone. I do wish Bravo went outside of that family and found other housewives to be on the program. People unrelated by marriage. I think that’s why I liked O.C. so much. They were all located in Orange County and it was the social aspect that tied them together.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      I just read that. Sounds like a lame reason to cancel the contest though. Bravo doesn’t think it’s good PR move? More like Bravo thinks she’s an idiot and doesn’t want their name attached to her stupidity, unless a Bravo camera is there 😉

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Think you are on to something! Bravo knows that bad PR is just that – bad PR – maybe the message is finally getting to them that fans are not interested in the violence or bad behavior of its stars!

        • MickeyMouth says:

          Just re-read the article and it has now been changed to a look-alike contest not a table flipping contest. What’s the over under on how many people show up in gorrila masks? LOL

          • justanothermary says:

            I heard (from a friend of a friend kind of thing) that Bravo caught a lot of flack for having T flip a table in the Bravo summer commercial. Violence should not be tolerated, let along encouraged.

    • vilzvet says:

      Still glad he’s doing 9 days…justice is served, and it’s just the beginning! Would love to look into a crystal ball about one year into the future…

  71. quincyil says:

    So DC is tonight. I hope that Stacy’s comments don’t cause a commotion in cyberspace. The world changes slowly, but it does change. Our neighbor’s son is a Evangelical minister who has been angry and yelled at me on three occassions. Once becasuse I taught evolution at a College for Kids program at our Catholic University. When he had a flat tire and his cell phone was dead, I helped him change the tire. I also care for his mom when he has to travel. I haven’t forgotten his behavior, but I ignore it.

  72. Wall St Lady says:

    Wow Wow Wow
    *Dutchess
    Anniiee
    Lynn
    *Buffywood
    NeedaHobby
    RabbeleRouser
    Savannah
    No * indicates u have not yet told me what u moniker stands for 😦
    I am overwhelmed at your thoughtful & kind words about me. I am very flattered but at the same time embarrassed that so much ink was used on me.
    I know that each of u has many equally interesting stories about children family & friends. Most of my stories r short happenings w/”stars” who aren’t friends. A few r friends. But if u the hired help for folks w/mega millions & walked the streets of NY for 30 years u would have NY experiences too.
    Any way here we r all anonymous & that’s part of the fun.
    I love love love it here because of U. Thank U for being so nice to me.

    • quincyil says:

      lol..or walked gravel roads while carrying 20lbs in a weighted vest….dogging pickup trucks and farm equipment… Oh, the stories…. rotfl

      • Anniieee says:

        Ok–worst/best job I have had…lived in Holland in the late 70’s. Could not get a work permit and lived way up on the east side by the North Sea. (met my ex there–he was in the Army) I was living cheap cheap and trying to go to all the places that Van Gogh had lived and painted. (oh the folly of youth). I worked for a dutch dairy farmer..shoveling cow poop–running the cows thru the showers and hooking em up to the electric milkers–and getting his young horses ready for saddle–greenbroke they called it. Rode mostly in Europe so I don’t know all the American/English terms. Saw and helped with piglets being born, calfs..inseminations (YUCK)..Throwing bales of hay around…It was the best of times and the worst of times. I miss it…Thanks, WSL for making me remember 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Keep those stories comeing WSL! We get snippets of lives and a moment away from our own lives…thank you!

    • Buffywood says:

      Good Morning All! WSL, we discussed briefly earlier but that is pretty much my name; Buffy Wood. I got the nickname Buffy back in the late 80’s for being preppy, having long blonde hair, driving a red MGB, being surfer and playing lacrosse. The name just stuck and most poeple I know outside of the work world probably think it is my real name. At 41 I am not so much a “Buffy” anymore.

      I hope everyone has a fantastic day!

  73. Laura says:

    Tareq and Michahle Salahi are on the morning radio show I listen to and she just confirmed that she WILL pose for Playboy – PUKE!

    Of course, the only other thing they really talked about was “read the book”…..

    Double Puke!

    • quincyil says:

      Is this after the breast implant, botox and rystalyne injections?

      What’s up with Playboy these days?

      • Laura says:

        I don’t know and I don’t really want to know lol.

        She is more delusional than Kelly Bensimon, if that’s possible.

        I just thank God, they never reproduced….it makes me shutter to think of them with kids….

        • Anniieee says:

          Yeah I really want to count all the bones in her chest–kind of like Rachel Zoe–ugh… not a pretty picture–Even MickeyMouse couldn’t do enough graphics to make that naked body look good.

  74. Wall St Lady says:

    Duchess u are so kind but I worry don’t u feed ur cat & fish !
    To other LynnFam who give a hoot :
    Seriously I am no more important than the good folks who collect our garbage.

    This IS someone else’s story.
    There is a wealthy kid who goes off to college in a sleepy ,poor Southern town. .
    First night there the young man goes to the dorm bathroom. The student frowns whens he finds the facilities not “cleansly”(couldn’t help that ) to his standards. . Suddenly he sees a man on his knees cleaning. The kid says “Well its about time. This place is a pig pen. ”
    The man stands up and tells the kid he is sorry it does not’ suit him and that he will work as fast as he can. In the morning it shines.
    Later the students go to an assembly to meet the President of the small college. . The Pres. gives an inspirational speech & all the students cheer w/excitement abut the expected education they will be getting.
    Our kid meantime wants to die cuz he realizes the Pres. Is the man who was cleaning the bathroom floor last night.
    When the speech is over the Pres. Comes off the stage and into the crowd to personally welcome all the students.
    Our kid w/head hung extends his hand to the Pres & receives a strong kind handshake. The kid says I am so sorry. Why didn’t you tell me who u were.
    The Pres. said
    here educating young people like u is our 1st priority and we are shorthanded so we all have to chip in to make things work & I always go first.
    I love that lesson.

    I am known as a person of strong faith and that is the best part of me.

    I assure u I am not important.
    I may b rare but w/Gods help I have accomplished some unique things as a woman on Wall St. but at the expense of marriage & family. (I married at 39).

    I had a death in my family as a teenager that left a hole in my heart & I tried to fill it through my ambition but never at the expense of another. (If some tried to win at my expense they quickly learned I was not a woman to b crossed)
    I did grow up w/a golden spoon in my mouth. But when I came to NYC the spoon stayed in NC.
    Lynn knows who I am & I have had the privilege of talking to others.
    I really would like to know u all ,even NYer but I guess that is not “blog like”. I have a feeling I will have the privilege some time.

    I didn’t know I liked to write & I think I should write a book.
    I will call it : 100 vignettes from WSL. The bones of it will b my posts. The blog has made me think of not using my identity but WSL. That might sell more books. Eventually I would “come out”. Anyway I have a note book which includes what I know of many of u & I would dedicate it to u.
    Thanks for letting me be part of the LynFam.

    • quincyil says:

      The interaction between WSL and the women on this blog is interesting also and that would be a different slant to offer the publisher. I have long thought that this is the new world of women just as Jane Austen’s novels were a new world in the 1810s.

  75. Wall St Lady says:

    Laura
    Triple puke w/a gruntie on top !

  76. Wall St Lady says:

    TLC has the new show “Sister Wives” Sunday nite. I am obsessed w/Big Love so I plan to watch. Will anybody watch w/me ?
    I initially don’t like the husband. What makes him think he deserves 4 women serving him.

    • Had Enough! says:

      I doubt that I will watch, but my .02 anyway. I personally don’t care who, what, or how many people someone lives with or marries so long as all are consenting adults. It is none of my damned business. Personally, I don’t believe it can work over the long term. I have known a few people who practiced open marriage which is really all polygyny (and polyandry – one wife, many husbands – but rare because good lord who wants MORE HUSBANDS?) and guess what? Every time, it failed. But the point is that they were consenting adults and they were willing to take the risk, so it is none of my damned business.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I watched Big Love, but probably won’t watch Sister Wives as one show of this genre is enough. Agree that it is between consenting adults and don’t care one way or another about it – and yes ONE HUSBAND is enough!

    • butterisafruit says:

      I’d love to watch with you. My problem is I like Desperate HW and Brothers and Sisters ..talk about whining. Anyway I’m huge on Big Love too. Maybe I can squeeze all of them in.

      • justanothermary says:

        I’ll watch with you WSL. It’s not like I have a life or anything, lol. There are days I think one husband is way way way too many!

    • CdnFillie says:

      I will WSL if it’s not at the same time as Dexter..I may DVR it if you say it’s good. Is it along the same lines as Big Love?

  77. Anniieee says:

    Crap, I can’t even get a date.

    • Jeepers says:

      Anniiee, Gotta put it out there, let it shine girl.

      • Anniieee says:

        My 88 year old mom (who lives with me) goes to the senior center 3 days a week to play bridge (think BIG cards and a lot of yelling 🙂 ) well she has this 73 year old hanging around her…asking her to dinner , etc. Yesterday he gave her a Bisquick cookbook because she said she wonder how the dumplings at lunch were made. (I can’t make this stuff up.) Anyhoo–she is a little bothered by the attention–I told her I doubted if he was going to buy Viagra–he just wanted companionship. When I have dated, they turn out to be losers. Repeated mistakes..so I thought I would look for the 99 year old with a “slight heart problem” and Anna Nicole him! just kidding.

  78. Wall St Lady says:

    Just watched Tina Faye writer of 30 Rock on Today.
    Any way they ask her why she doesnt Tweet or FB ?
    She says w/ her writing she just doesn’t have time to tell cyberspace what kind of sandwich she ate for lunch.
    But she admits she lerks on Twitter.

  79. boston02127 says:

    Well….I got my A.M. Lynn fix. I hope when I get home from class and cleaning I will come back to read that Teresa is in prison, Bobby left Jill for an Alex look a like, Kelly falls off that odd fake horse in her house and breaks her fingers and can never tweet again, Albie is caught wearing Lauren’s cloths, Caroline caught some odd virus and will never be able to speak again, Claud is really man, Ashley is arrested for prostitution, Jacqueline is caught in a motel with her former pimp and Patty Skanker fell off the face of the earth. I don’t ask for much! I’ll be looking forward to all the new news. Time to make the donuts. Have a good day everyone. 🙂

  80. Wall St Lady says:

    Had Enough re plural marriage. I don’t feel judgmental just fascinated. I read u had 2 husbands. (Stretch stretch).
    I wouldn’t want another when WSM “wears out”

    • Had Enough! says:

      Not at the same time! I personally would love a part-time marriage. I would love to live alone during the week and just hang out on weekends. It is really hard to live with someone. No matter how much you love each other, you get on each other’s nerves.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        My hubby travels for business so he is only home on the weekends….that is why we are still married! He loves his job, I love my alone time (well when I am not raising the kids, running the house, being charitable, etc).

        • Had Enough! says:

          I remember an episode of Everyone Loves Raymond (I didn’t; I thought he was a loud-mouthed, no-nothing bore) where Deborah asked him to leave the house for a day and when he did, she danced around and sang “house to myself, house to myself.” Boy do I know that feeling! When he’s gone, I miss him but for a few days, I am blissed out with the peace and quiet. Things get put away and STAY put away. In the proper places. I can concentrate, I can get everything done. I can have the mental space to deal with stuff that has been bothering me, instead of worrying about someone else’s stuff.

          • Anniieee says:

            I stayed married for so long, because the Army kept sending him away for long periods of time–I pretended to feel sorry for myself–but loved it! When we got stationed at the Pentagon–he was home–home–home and it became the uninterested roommate situation. No regrets, love my kids and had a great life.

            • justanothermary says:

              The hubs works nights, I work days. We basically only have weekends together, but he’s also a hunter/sportsman, so gone a lot for that. It’s GREAT!!!!

          • CdnFillie says:

            After 6 months of being unemployed my 55 yr old hubbie finally found a job, but it’s 5 hours away. So I’m alone during the week and lately he’s only been able to come home every other weekend. Tell u the truth, so far so good. I was alone for almost 10 years before I remarried, and I think I missed it 😛
            It’s working out for us so far but the winter time will tell….I hate snow and cold and I’m pretty isolated where I am.
            Maybe I’ll just have to occupy my time and post my opinion and/or vent more often here with you guys. Love u all

    • quincyil says:

      I was just discussing this subject of multiple wives with my sister in law visiting from Iran. They have been to Dubai and Saudi Arabia and have meet women in such relationships. It seems that the reason that it so often works is the groom and all of the bridges are first cousins.

      Iranian women resist getting more than one wife. They drive cars and over half of the people in the universities in Iran are women. They have more of a Western way of thinking in my opinion. Of course, my sister in law is my husbands second cousin and his third cousin, they share all of the same grandparents. I know… not quite so modern.

  81. Wall St Lady says:

    Hey too bad Theresa
    I think Jo has plural marriages !
    He went bankrupt because u aren’t cleansly & he wanted
    A FRESH START
    W/o yo fat a$$ !

  82. Wall St Lady says:

    Some of my friends here were or R make up artists,like
    one Mo Bo. (this does not include Ms Slimy Play boy)
    Bobby Brown is on Today about
    her new book which teaches teens how to feel good about themselves & how to apply make up.
    Bobby is asked isn’t ur book a contradiction. She says
    “I am just a makeup artist & make up makes women feel better so moms need to guide their daughters vs fight them about it. ”
    I liked the way this queen of make up w/several asuccessful books described herself when kinda ,although lightly, was challenged.

  83. emt2 says:

    It’s very hard for me, as a viewer, to have sympathy for some of these reality-tv stars who are having personal issues. For example, I cannot figure out, for the life of me, why Caroline would get involved in Danielle’s ex-husband’s lawsuit. I mean, it just boggles my mind. Why would you even bother with it at all if you don’t like this person? She had a choice and Caroline chose to get involved and I think that is just despicable.

    Another example is Tamara and Simon’s acromonious divorce. I’ve made it clear that I don’t like Tamara (I don’t like Simon, either) and I did say yesterday that she is basically a prostitute and I find it hard to believe anything she says. The reason why I think she is a prostitute is because she will whore herself out for attention and financial gain. I just read an article on realitytea.com that said Tamara went to the courthouse the following day with Bravo cameras in tow to inquire about filing an order of protection. Why are the cameras following her? That means that she had to coordinate with the crew in order to be filmed. That doesn’t seem like the behavior of someone who is genuinely fearful for their life.

    Also, she tweeted that Simon may have left a message on her facebook and was asking fans to check for her. Now, why would she tweet this? Why not call her lawyers? In other words, why make things more public and try to sway public opinion by pulling publicity stunts?

    That is why I doubt the veracity of her claims. It seems that she is trying to find any kind of leverage in order to gain full custody, so that she will receive more child support and will be able to make more money on the show.

    Just a few months ago, Tamara was going on and on about how Simon was a deadbeat dad and while I did get the impression that he is controlling, I never got the impression that he didn’t care about his children. On the contrary, I saw him as the more active and mature parent when compared to Tamara.

    Some may disagree with me but I call it as I see it. I don’t think that Tamara was scared for her life and she seems to taking this situation and running with it for her own purposes.

    I’ve had to take an order of protection against someone and it’s not a great process. I’ve always been exposed to domestic violence. That’s why I feel as though Tamara is exaggerating and acting like a famewhore. When you are afraid that someone will attempt to harm you or has harmed you, you don’t go on twitter asking your fans to check your facebook, you don’t go to the courthouse with cameras in tow and not even file the complaint which had been the purpose of going to the courthouse in the first place.

    Tamara disgusts me. Point blank. And I think she is a bad mom. I always have.

    • Anniieee says:

      I agree!! Very well said.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Divorce can rock even the most grounded of people – I can’t begin to even wonder what or why Tamra and Simon are doing what they are now doing. The kids are stuck in a bad situation and I hope that they have other support systems as their parents are so self absorbed and so self serving. I can’t imagine anyone would want this sad chapter in their lives televised.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Divorce can rock even the steadiest of people. I don’t know why Tamra and Simon are doing what they are doing, especially since they have small children involved! Hoping that the kids have other strong adults in their lives to support them through this very sad chapter of their parents’ lives – what boggles my mind is the fact that neither of these adults seem at all ashame that they pander their mess to a televised audience!
      Eventually Bravo will get named in some lawsuit by one of these individuals and maybe then Bravo will realize that the majority of the viewers of their shows never asked for the “drama”, the “violence” and the “fall out” of their stars’ lives.

    • CdnFillie says:

      Emt2…I think I love u 😛

      That’s what I love about u guys..you can all say it so much better than I can

    • Jeepers says:

      ent2
      I feel the same way you do about Tamara. I too was in 2
      difficult marriages. When I finally broke away from that
      lifestyle, it was the best day of my life. I went to support
      group for battered women for a long long time. I became
      an advocate for battered women & work with 47 women.
      I held meetings twice a week, I visited in the home of many
      of the women. I worked with the children also. I also had
      9 men who were abused, as clients. I met with them on a
      private bases because of the stigma.
      At the time I was a high profile person in a small town of
      only 6,700 people. I was on the city council & was married
      to a well known family, who practically bulit the town. I was
      also a full time Pharmacy Tech. So I know of what you are
      saying with regards to Tamara, you are 100% correct in
      you’re assesment of her………sorry so long………..Jeepers

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Wow! I agree with you 100%. I also doubted Tamra feared for her safety as , I believe, Simon had already left. Also wasn’t her boyfriend there also? Why can’t he defend her? I am in no way advocating violence, but a stern “she’s with me buddy” should do. Her new storyline will be that of an emotionally/phsyically abused divorcee, trying to make a living for her children without support from their deadbeat dad, while remaining young and vibrant in age-inappropriate clothing and looking for love. Blegghh

  84. Wall St Lady says:

    By Anniieee on September 23, 2010 at 7:33 am
    Did u happen to find an ear in all that arm power & work.Do u paint too ?
    Quincy is almost as renound as Andy Warhol for her corn.

    • Anniieee says:

      I looked…but he gave it to his girlfriend….Gaugauin caused that mess. It’s funny to look at his self-portraits before and after… he always painted the side of the head that he cut the ear off of…then after he “healed” he had to paint the opposite of his head to hide the mess. What a troubled soul with so much passion for painting. I am a painter–who loves color, O’Keeffee and Van Gogh and a million others. I really love teaching all my kids.. Have 207 of them this year…They are painting right now–so I keep coming back to my desk and checking the blog. These big ol wanna be gangbangers doing watercolor flowers. And doing a great job of it!!

  85. Wall St Lady says:

    Buffy its good to share again for the benefit of those who haven’t gotten the SKinny on why u r soooo Buff.
    But my post said those w/no *
    R still in the doghouse
    For not telling me WHY they choose their moniker.
    U now have 2 stars & for ur goodness & joy u get 3 *** !

    • Buffywood says:

      LOL… I guess that is what happens when I try to read things before I finish my first cup of coffee. It’s the double negative that threw me. If is like when someone asks “You don’t mind that I don’t xxx, do you? I always have to stop and pause before I answer…

    • kmuellfa says:

      WSL- I am mostly a lurker here. I rarely post because you all say it better than I ever could. I did attend Lynn’s cocktail party w/ Simon and Alex, which was a blast. (And I had the hangover to prove it)
      I love this blog because it gives me a break from nursing school. I have to say the hubbub about your identity made me curious. I would never want to intrude and ask who you are, but I was wondering, if you were”outed”, would we know you?

      I know it’s a weird (and maybe rude) question, but no disrespect intended, it’s just driving me crazy.
      🙂

  86. WindyCityWondering says:

    So how many days are left in the countdown for the Guidices to respond to the bankruptsy charges? Are they getting a postponement/continuation since Joe is living in the big house? And when will the IRS file their suit against the tax dodging duo?

    • justanothermary says:

      The last thing I heard was that the deadline is October 4. We can only hope there are no extensions left.

      • Had Enough! says:

        And the auction is still scheduled for 10/3, I think. I keep expecting to see a notice of withdrawal from their attorney.

  87. Wall St Lady says:

    Quincy wrote: I have long thought that blogging is the new world of women just as Jane Austen’s novels were a new world in the 1810 & Had Enough said how about Edith Warton.
    I love & have. Read all the Edith Wharton & Austin books.
    I am mad for the movies too.
    I love most period movies except westerns.
    I do agree & have discussed w/ Lynn that the blog is a new venue that is evolving as WE create it.
    For a long time I didn’t understand what one was. I only came to understand twitter while on this blog. I still don’t understand either on a relative basis. It troubles me that I can’t put a box around it like I feel like I can do in my career.
    Any enlightenment for back ground to understand blogs especially would b appreciated.

    • quincyil says:

      I have been online since the beginning. I had a young son with an IQ off the charts who was mentored by the founder of the internet in Western Illinois with the help of Uof I Urbana. The earliest blogs were really unmonitored boards on web sites. Communities rose up and depending on the subject of the board, were peaceful like “Farscape” or combative like the political boards.

      I see Lynn’s blog as very similar to the community boards where a subject is introduced and then there is a general discussion with the interests and personal experiences of the many members shared. You can read posts if you want and skip things that you have little interest in and still function in that group setting.

      Having a reasonable blog owner who keeps the ship afloat with humor is a gift.
      I see many people here who I would have a closest friends if I could lure them into the overfly country.

      I watch the twitter revolutioninaries here and enjoy their ability to take the battle to the Reality Star’s inner sanctuaries, but I don’t care enough about those people to bother. I am an empath though. I read about the people here and I absorb their pain and want to give back something to make their lives a tiny bit easier.

      Here as in real life, I watch people and think about Human behavior. I think Earth’s Human population is very interesting. When the space aliens arrive, I’m sure we can pull it together to defend our planet. LOL. I love sci fi too.

      Back to work… Look forward to reading all of your thoughts later.

      • Anniieee says:

        You are truly an amazing person…. and on a silly note….(and I am just teasing) didn’t Al Gore invent the internet 🙂

      • SavingGrace says:

        If I lived in Quincy, Illinois I would stalk you until you agreed to be my friend….lol!

        Quincy, I read every single one of your posts. I so value what you have to say.

        If you were a Jane Austin leading lady I believe you would be an older version of Catherine Moreland from Northanger Abbey. I believe Cathy could do anything even when others cruelly opposed her. I like to think the life you have and have led is a rich full happy one.

        Just kidding about the stalking part but if we lived in the same area, I would work hard to be your acquaitance.

        • Anniieee says:

          me3–renaissance woman…incredible.

        • quincyil says:

          You wouldn’t have to stalk me. I’d have you help clean stalls and then ride horses with me. LOL….

          Actually, I am not popular with physcians’ wife here. I was popular with the vast majority of the parents when I was the PTA president during the periods when my kids were in the different schools. We used to have this huge turnout of parents on the nights that I had meetings. The principal noted that the turnouts were unusual and he asked some fathers why all of a sudden they were showing up. They said that their wives were having such a great time at the meetings and were bringing home stories of how much everyone laughed. It seems that I was Quincy’s version of the self depracating comedian and most importantly, it was free entertainment for the masses.

          Brown University has classes on autobiographies where the professor publishes her students work in the form of a book. I’m in that book. The stories that my daughter wrote about me seemed to make everyone in that Brown class laugh. You see, I wanted my children to have the best education possibly. So… I brought science to all of the children. I had all second graders to my farm to walk in the creek and study leaves. They had popcicles while sitting on a hill while I showed them how horses hear, lie down, and the final act would be to let the twenty or so horses run out to the pasture after being locked up all morning as the children watched in amazement.

          I also taught astronomy in a Star Lab to all children.

          So unlike WSL, but so like WSL, I have had an amazing life and when I leave this planet it will be a tiny bit better for all of those children and hopefully their own children through them.

          • SavingGrace says:

            There can be nothing better than a life well lived.

            I think that is why I have such a problem with all these women on RH. They have the makings of extraordinary lives in the present. Why throw away that blessed life for a few moments on television and then KEEP coming back for more?

            I don’t get it.

            Quincy, I think Bravo should send these broke, demanding, delusion housewives to Charm School where you are the headmistress.

            I can easily see you whipping these pompous broads into well-behaved ladies that they pretend they are or want to be.

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  89. Wall St Lady says:

    Windy how is ur puking machine ?
    LOL at statement not precious machine.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sadly he is still having too much quality time in the bathroom! But he is a good patient and I wish he could keep something down! Thanks for asking.

  90. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    @Wall St. Lady, from above posting….
    LMAO! Yes, the fish and cat are still being fed! Should have mentioned them too! What a memory you have! I will chuckle over that one the whole day. And Taz (the cat) and Shithead (the fish) both thank you for your concern and would like you to know you have now become their favorite poster on the blog!

  91. Wall St Lady says:

    Go Quincy ! Educateing children is a daily thing & can b done in all things. I got my degrees in elementary ed.
    Ever herd of the Bank St. Method ?

    • quincyil says:

      No, I taught at the University undergrad and grad levels, Med School, Dental School with my formal education. One summer, I sent myself to Berkely and learned astronomy education for children in a special program. I had helped a friend with her preschoolers when her mom died too. So…I have taught from the preschools through post docs. I think the Bank St. Method must fit in there somewhere. rotfl.

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