I Hate Jill Zarin Flipping Out Guest Blog Sept 23, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin Flipping Out Guest Blog September 23, 2010

Thank you to Had Enough! For today’s guest blog on Flipping Out…

This week on Flipping Out was all about interpersonal relationships. Not much moving the plot forward. I apologize in advance that this re-cap is kind of boring. I guess the episode was kind of boring.

So. Another week of my wondering when Jeff is going to realize that it wasn’t a good idea to hire Sarah. She is ditzy and has a lousy attitude. But she’s family so he probably feels stuck. Which is why he shouldn’t have hired her in the first place. Don’t do business with friends and relatives. It is a bad practice. This is a business that requires extreme attention to detail and that’s exacerbated by the fact that Jeff is extremely particular about getting things right. That’s his stock-in-trade. That’s why people hire him. I would also blow up if she couldn’t manage to write down the phone numbers or didn’t check her work.

But let’s take it from the top. Jeff is stressed out. Some of it has to do with taking on too much work. I get that. He was panicked when the phone stopped ringing. Who wouldn’t be? So he does what he needs to do – he starts taking the kind of work he has to take to make a living, even though he’d left that kind of work long ago. Good on him. But I think in his panic, he took everything that walked in the door and now he’s got way more than he can handle.

And we’ve been ragging on him for years about why he needs all those people to keep his household running. So now he is doing what we suggested. Jett is terrific in my opinion – he actually does things the way Jeff wants them done, and doesn’t get upset about it – but he doesn’t bring in any money. So assigning him to the rental apartments is a great idea. And jett handles it like a dignified, mature adult. He just accepts the assignment. He is a nice guy who has his act together.

Next up. Zoila. Within 2 seconds, she says if you want me to do more work, you have to pay me more money. I’d say: everyone today should be glad to have a job. And in reality, what is happening is that Jett won’t be around to pick up her slack. Because that is what has been going on.

I have revised my low opinion of Zoila. Slightly. Now that I know that she also cleaned Jeff’s grandmother’s house on weekends, I can understand why she feels she doesn’t get enough time off. But generally, I am not impressed with Zoila. She does move very slowly and I do not think she does a good job. A house like that should be fairly easy to clean. Few tschotschkes, no clutter. Everything is open and easy to see. I saw her cleaning the bathroom floor with what looked like a dry floor dust mop. No lady. I wash my bathroom floors on my hands and knees with a scrub brush. Yes, it is hard to keep up with the animal fur, but not that hard. Not in a house like that. And I don’t have time to clean the house and go shopping? Cut me a break. I do all that and work full-time, long hours. Don’t we all?

I can’t figure out how old Zoila is. Her bio says she came to the U.S. in 1987, after her daughters were grown. Say she was 40 at that time. That means she is 63 now. Maybe the problem is that she is just too old to be doing physical labor. Jenni mentioned that Zoila has arthritis. And well then the real problem is that she can’t do the job anymore. Jeff either has to accept this fact or hire someone to replace her. But don’t make her miserable. Just make a choice and deal with the consequences.

Iit is insane that she works so many days a week/month even though really should could get the work done in four days if she would just move faster. But no one should be working six days a week on a routine basis. And then two weekends, she also cleans Jeff’s grandmother’s house. Well, that is obviously her choice. He says she shouldn’t do it and she objects and says she wants to. She is obviously fond of grandma, and that’s nice, but again, if you can’t do it, then don’t do it. There are choices to be made. Make them. Or stop complaining. Zoila. Tell him you are willin to work only five days a week, and if he doesn’t like it, well then time to find another job.

(Wait. I work six or seven days a week, too. I work all week doing my job, and often on weekends, and then I clean my house, run my errands, and do a thousand other things….).

But mostly what I object to about Zoila is her attitude. She really does bitch and moan about everything and I don’t believe she is really fond of Jeff, as many believe. I think she resents him and even when he does something nice for her, her thanks are given begrudgingly. Though he only does nice things for her to shut her up, so it is a two-way street. He openly admits to that: “did anyone notice that the car came with 100 strings attached?” He says it is to motivate her, bribe her. Right, but if she really is physically incapable of doing the work, motivation isn’t the problem.

Now back to Sarah. I am sick of her whining. She is reminding me of Trashley in her attitude. She is using to being a cute blonde who gets what she wants, but she is not cute anymore. She’s pudgy and her clothes are much too tight, making her pudge even more obvious.

The whole thing with Jesse the painter is so bizarre. If he really does such a crappy job, why does Jeff keep using him? Cheap is not worth it if he does only one coat and doesn’t do adequate prep and gets paint all over the place. It is hard to imagine Jeff the perfectionist putting up with this nonsense. The flirting thing with Sarah is just creepy but I thought Jeff’s comments about Sarah getting what she wants because she flirts were hysterical. He won’t pimp her out, he says. Either you get Jeff’s ultra-dry humor or you don’t. If you do, this was hysterical. How he manages to not even crack the tiniest bit of a smile when he says this stuff is beyond me. Sometimes you see in his eyes a tiny hint that he is joking.

Trace seems quite talented. He must be or Jeff wouldn’t rely on him the way he does. He seems like a nice guy who really has his act together and he seems calm and good with clients.

Chaz Dean gives me the creeps and they’ve been working on this damned salon for about a thousand years now. He gets attached to ridiculous things for ridiculous reasons. Like this blah new-agey mural. All these people died over a period of four years and one of them – did he say it was his brother – died when the mural was being painted or something like that. I didn’t quite get it. I guess I am a cold-hearted bitch, but I think a lot of stuff happened over those four years. Is he attached to everything that happened over those four years.

I do enjoy watching the renovations and the finished projects, much as I enjoyed watching the creative process and the clothes on Runway. It bugs me that they would rely on a post-it note to tell the carpenters to save a particular wall or feature. Guess what? Post-it notes stick really well to paper but they tend to fall off everything else. Someone brushes against that wall, the post-it falls off, someone takes a sledge hammer to that wall.

Now Stewart the dog is doing his business in the house. Again. Would someone PLEASE housebreak these animals? If they are going in the house all the time, there may be something wrong with them. Please take them to the vet.

I am going to try to condense all this interaction between Jeff and Zoila rather than doing a blow-by-blow of every scene, since they are all basically the same. She doesn’t do a good job and she is slow (again, maybe there is a good reason for that, but as above, then time to retire). He isn’t happy with her and instead of doing the right thing, he just picks at her. A lot of it is teasing, but a lot of it isn’t. When he crosses the line, which is a lot of the time, he just buys her something or takes her somewhere. And I am pissed off as hell that the reason he worries about her depression is because it makes other people uncomfortable. OK, then. So long as we don’t have to deal with it, we don’t care how you feel. It also pisses me off that he can’t get off his ass and get himself juice. This kind of stuff I think he does just to needle her. Some people can give it right back but she’s not one of them. She tries, but really you can see it gets to her, and that’s why she resents him so much. It just builds up and builds up.

Bottom line. This is becoming a sick, twisted relationship. She needs to realize it is time to retire and he needs to learn to treat her with dignity or find someone else.

Why does this stupid Sarah wear high-heeled boots to a construction site. Reminds me of Jenny last year wearing ballet flats and getting a nail in her foot, or climbing up on the roof with high heels. How much insurance does Jeff carry?

Jenny is entirely without talent but I loved the rap song she wrote and performed for Zoila. It is the thought that counts, and the thought was really wonderful.

Thanks again Had Enough! For that great recap!

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556 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Flipping Out Guest Blog Sept 23, 2010

  1. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    she is family to Jeff that is really how he thinks of her
    and most likely she wont retire till the bitter end
    and then Jeff is gonna take care of her
    at least that is what i get from what they show and how he speaks about her off cam

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      agree – Jeff has his own dysfunctional tv family and he loves them all in his own way!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think there is a bond between Jeff and Zoila- that well exceeds that of a live in house keeper. All of Jeff’s relationships are complicated and rocky and I really beleive Jeff sees Zoila as a mother figure- a mother that he loves but that also drives him crazy. I think his relationship with Zoila is one of the longest on going ones he has maintained- they are in it for the long haul.

      I do think she does a pretty good job cleaning, especially given the amount of animals in the house. I don’t think finding a bit of dust in nooks and crannies given all the dander that probably floats through there makes her a poor house keeper. When Jeff does his white glove routine, he goes over many surfaces and hiding spots and accumulates the specs of dust or dog hair.

      While she does seems to move slow and can be surly, I think her shortcomings are timid compared to Jeff’s.

      • Had Enough! says:

        I agree with all of you. There is a quasi-family relationship here. There shouldn’t be, and not just because Jeff is unable to treat people with respect. It is because – and I’m guessing WSL will back me up here, coming from the South at a time when people typically had quite a bit of household help – one should keep a proper distance from employees. Actually, that’s true not just in households but in offices. You can’t make appropriate decisions if you are making them on the basis of personal relationships. That’s why he shouldn’t have hired Sarah, and it is why he shouldn’t be regarding Zoila as a family member.

        Working with/hiring family members and friends is usually a recipe for losing friends and having serious problems within the family.

  2. BKAamia009 says:

    Yeah Zoila does say shut up too much. how about be quiet?

  3. vilzvet says:

    According to her website Teresa is in North Carolina today??? With her husband in jail…I’m sure her kids feel so secure right now, unless they have no idea where he is…thank God for the grandparents.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Maybe the kids think he is on a business trip – Teresa seems to travel alot now so having the grandparents there has got to help them deal with their parents being away.
      Do you wonder if the older ones are hearing things at school? I got to thinking about that watching Gia appear to be so much more mature and quiet during the last couple of episodes….

      • LynnNChicago says:

        I would have to guess that at least Gia knows the truth. Based on the way that Teresa and Joe view law enforcement and this entire situation, I’d bet they told the kids that daddy didn’t do anything wrong, he’s just being harassed.

        Since Teresa has no help, someone should call the authorities, apparently she’s left the kids home alone.

        Damn, I keep forgetting about the grandparents she’s hiding in the basement and won’t admit to….call off the authorities.

        • vilzvet says:

          This proves and Jacqueline also mentioned at the reunion that Teresa is the one bringing home the bacon at this point…poor timing that she had something booked this week as his sentence begins. I wonder how much notice they had he was going away at this time? It is indeed funny as Lynn noted that her tweets make it seem like it is all sunshine and rainbows in her life. And only one more week before their poor attorney has to answer that beautiful document.

        • cusi77 says:

          Lynn! You are so funny! Just love it!

    • Waxdiva says:

      Ta-reesa is doing club promotions, that is why she was in NC. She will be in DE on Saturday:

      Anyone live near this place? Would love to see the people who were attracted by her ad to go to this club’s ‘goat rodeo.’

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I can’t beleive there are people who pay to see this broad.

        The only thing that would get me to anywhere she would be appearing is if she was sitting in a dunking booth or there was some pie throwing going on.

      • MickeyMouth says:

        Not far from me, but I have no interest. I hope a bunch of college kids show up in gorilla masks.

        • Waxdiva says:

          She probably wouldn’t mind… notice she will be signing books. I’ll have a vodka and three skinny italians… the only way she can sell her book now is by getting customers drunk!?

          • vilzvet says:

            What kills me is the “fans” who post on her Facebook or tweet her that they waited HOURS to get her autograph!! It boggles the mind that there are that many people with functioning brain cells that think she is worthy of that much of their time.

  4. WindyCityWondering says:

    Hey Had Enough! – good job on the guest blog – Flipping Out has gotten harder and harder to watch and you summed it up nicely!

  5. Wall St Lady says:

    Where in NC is that itchbay (pig latin)?

  6. Wall St Lady says:

    I have a lot to say but will in a few.
    On the end of the last blog I wrote a love letter to U !

  7. LynnNChicago says:

    RE: Flipping Out

    Just the way that Jeff interviews and talks about his clients, do you suppose these people will continue to do business with him? Wouldn’t this deter others from hiring him as well? He is better than he used to be, but he still talks a lot about how he “handles” his clients and it’s not positive.

    • SavingGrace says:

      Lynn, I so agree but for some reason every time the show comes back he has more clients.

      People are strange, aren’t we?

    • Blue Sky says:

      Most of his clients probably don’t watch the show, or they think Jeff is a “hoot” and the results are worth the punishment. His main problem seems to be delegating, which he is getting better at. He could handle even more business, if he figured out how to train people, & delegate more. I find him very funny, and annoying too. IIRC, didn’t he say in the NY episode that if he adopts a baby he wants Zoila to be the nanny? It is a weird relationship, but underneath it all, there seems to be real love between them.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Or… he knows no one else would put up with him.

        • quincyil says:

          Loved the blog. I think Jeff is making it in a difficult California economy. He is a micromanager. I think that his sister in laws sister is a ditz. It’s important when ordering to get the codes correct. It’s important to have the addresses of the places you are going. Her clothes are too tight. Her heels are too high. It’s doubtful that she will take the number one assistant slot in the near or far future.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      If anything I think they would probably dismiss it as being part of making ‘good tv’. I think the most concerning thing was from either last season or the season before when he was working on the Handcock Park house and they were taking bids.

      I really got the impression there was an implication that Jeff was pushing one vendor over others because they were giving him kickbacks.

  8. SavingGrace says:

    Had Enough:

    Muchas Gracias for the blog. Will you please keep blogging for us? Pretty please with sugar on top?

  9. Olivia says:

    The original OC Housewives series is being re run daily in my zip code. Having never taken an interest in this franchise before this year, I watched a few episodes to see what I was missing.

    This series is about 5-6 yrs old. The huge difference is in the programming that was featured then as opposed to the “dreck” that we are seeing now.

    The OC series, which I believe may have been the original franchise, features the same over bleached, Botoxed injected, breast augmented, pretentious women who seem to inhabit most of the others. But the tone is subdued by comparison. The emphasis, or the “drama”, more or less revolves around getting the kids into college, or at least offers a view to how they spend their money in a more prosperous economy. It also seems to have been produced by another production company.

    Fast forward to the current crop of shows and the tone changes dramatically. Screeching, hollering, bad mouthing, dirty tricks, sex, vulgarity, obscenities, threats, and violence is the present offering and this is a far cry from what the original concept.

    The viewers were offered a glimpse in what life may be like in a gated community but the women featured were more or less an ordinary group living the good life while tending to their families. This current group, and I can only compare what I have seen from the DC, NJ, and NY franchises, seem to highlight women who are overly concerned about themselves, their image, their celeb, and their ultimate desire to perform in the most egregious manner to ensure their place on t.v. The worst behavior is applauded and is a far cry from what was presented a mere 5 yrs ago.

    It seems that the “blandness” that was the original series was “cranked up” in the bid for ratings and the need to appear “different” from the OC group. Bravo allowed their “cash cow” to become a mud wrestling event and as they continue to create more franchises as a means of “cashing in” they are stuck with the premise that in order to gain in the ratings game the cast must perform more and more outrageously in order to compete.

    This says as much about the ladies who would stab their own mothers in the back to get on these shows as it does for the producers and the network who crank them out.

    To go from “bland” to “brutal” in a space of a few years is eye opening.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Agree with you, Olivia. And in the OC early days, no one was peddling their products, right? Now it seems it is mandatory to get that $ making scheme going. The NY housewives have been the most successful with that (Bethenny & Ramona). Bravo brought the housewives series down to the gutter level with NJ. Finally, they seem to have gotten the message with DC & the slimy Salahis who we hope will slither off into the sunset, never to be heard from again. I refuse to watch the shows that are all about fighting & violence. It’s more fun to read about it here anyway.

      • Olivia says:

        To think that in an ordinary workplace this type of behavior would lead to a firing. Yet these “non talents” are invited back and looking to be paid even more money while still being allowed to pitch their crap by way of links attached to their blogs.

        Jail time, arrests, violence, lawsuits, fraud, uncensored vulgarity, is treated as a form of “celebrity” as they make personal appearances and garner magazine covers for money.

        Most of us do not live like this, nor do we approve of the behavior and attitudes, but those who participate in these shows exhibit a fair amount of pride in their performance.

        Obviously they are not alone as they go from interview to interview basking in the spotlight of their odious activities.

    • Anniieee says:

      Wow–Spot on… I really enjoyed the first year of the OC–living a little vicariously thru these ladies. They had a few petty disagreements but for the most part were supportive of each other. Laurie worked for Vicki, Jeana was Vicki’s neighbor, the one who’s name I forget who moved away–was friends with Jeanna forever–and I forget who the last one was–Was it Quinn? Noo–dang sufferering CRS… OH JO…and Slimey Slade, anyway–as the show has moved forward or downhill, we have plastic women with axes to grind with each other out of jealousy or spite in an economy that is has not supported the excesses of their past lifestyle. It is like watching road rage.

      • Blue Sky says:

        You nailed it sister. By the time Jugs for Jesus (Alex) and her greasy husband (Taliban Jim) came on the scene, it no longer interested me. Not sure if I want to watch it again…reading the recaps here is more my style, if it gets ridiculous on OC. And if Shady Slade is on, definitely not watching.

        • Dawn says:

          Don’t forget Tamara. She’s the worse of the lot.

        • nathania says:

          I know. I guess this is going to sound horribly judgemental, but I am not interested in watching a couple who let their twin daughters fall in a swimming pool while strapped into a stroller. I know accidents happen all the time, but I am going to think of that every time I look at them. Don’t they have two nannies? That is just a nightmare near tragedy there.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Olivia – I gave each franchise a chance.
      OC was bland at the start, which is why I tuned into Atlanta. Atlanta, IMO was the beginning of the skankwife syndrome that Bravo latched onto as it’s money making formula. I truly loved NY – for the setting, for the cast and for the “look into their lives” interest. Ah New Jersey – bizarre from the start, too many related wives and a pronounced villain (Danielle) and lunatic (Teresa) with a let the battle begin attitude and what never struck me as real money or any class. IMO, DC was doomed before it aired because of the gatecrashing, lying Sahahis. Now BH promises drama and plastic……zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

    • Tootsie says:

      Thank you Olivia, you said it so well. I find no humor or enjoyment in watching people turn into “horrors” in front of my eyes. It just isn’t pretty. I wouldn’t befriend any of these women on a bet. Therefore, I don’t watch any of the housewives anymore. BUT………I will watch Bethenny when she returns. Her show is light hearted and funny.

    • quincyil says:

      It’s a circus now. There are clowns, animals of all kinds, and freaks in side shows. I guess America wants this.

  10. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    @Wall St. Lady,
    Responding to your post on previous blog:
    LMAO! Yes, the fish and cat are still being fed! Should have mentioned them too! What a memory you have! I will chuckle over that one the whole day. And Taz (the cat) and Shithead (the fish) both thank you for your concern and would like you to know you have now become their favorite poster on the blog!

  11. Anniieee says:

    Excellent recap HadEnough and I think it is getting sort of boring.

    Jeff seems to be a lot like some of my artist friends..overly fussy, kinda mean spirited and way too judgmental (judgemental) (now I am confused). I agree with HadEnough–I am kind of tired of watching Zoila bitch and complain and say shut up. To me it’s like she pretends to work and stands around a lot. When they order lunch–you can bet that Jeff pays for everything. I am over it….

    • error404 says:

      Well, maybe she should stop complaining since she accepts it all. Me? If my boss sat in a chair and demanded that I come over, take his store bought food to the kitchen and put it on a plate for him with crazy exact directions and then carry it back to him, I’d be out that door looking for a sane house to clean so fast I would knock the dust right off the stair supports!

      • Had Enough! says:

        I think he needs to set out clearly what is expected. If making meals is part of her job, it doesn’t matter if the food is store-bought or not. If it is not part of her job, he shouldn’t be asking her to do it.

        • TT in OC says:

          My take on that part is he acted like a little boy that wanted his mommy to take care of him. What do we know about his mom and his childhood? I only remember they showed a man-to-man talk between Jeff and his dad regarding Ryan. However, I did not watch the show from season 1, maybe I missed something.

        • error404 says:

          Jeff gives very exact directions on how he wants everything, which is why it’s bizzare they all stay and put up with it. His way is THE ONLY WAY, no matter how idiotic or wrong, and he refuses to budge or compromise.

          He complains that he’s too busy, but all we ever see him do is follow people around telling them they are not doing their jobs right.

          • quincyil says:

            Besides the money from Jeff’s company, they are paid to be on “Flipping Out.” Jenny is one of the producers and that has to be significant money too.

            I wonder if the cats get paid more than the dogs. They are all stars of the show, but the cats really seem to be the stars of the stairway.

  12. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I caught up with RHOC after the first 2 seasons. Vicky was always focused on her business and appeared to lord her working mom status over all the others. Jeanna was beat down by all in her family. She was a sad sack. It appeared Lori was always searching for a new husband, and socializing more than taking a serious interest in her children.
    I felt the show really picked up after Tamra and then Gretchen joined the show. I saw Simon as controlling, but I saw Tamra as a jealous, envious, and spiteful. She openly taunted Simon when he was unable to generously provide for her. She resented Gretchen’s ability to get her pink motorcycle. In her desire to bring down Gretchen, she proceeded to get her dangerously drunk, possible alcohol poisoning, allowing her willing son to possibly sexually accost her. While Gretchen did indeed drink of her own volition, she had no idea of the master plan behind the dinner party. Awful.

    • Olivia says:

      The OC group was primarily devoid of separate personalities at least from what I have seen so far which is limited to the first season.

      Regardless of how Alex is portrayed now, in the beginning there was little doubt that she was a “social climber” and eager to be part of the NY social scene. And Bethenny was “not kind” in her comments no matter how much the attempt to gloss over those words are now. Ramona was “brutal” in her delivery and that “telling it like it is” excuse wore thin after awhile. The “real Jill” was always hovering just below the surface and it was no more apparent than in Season 3. As for Kelly and Lu Ann, they never did elicit more than a yawn in their appearances until Kelly “let loose” in an effort to appear more than one dimensional. Inviting her back for another season just strengthened the notion that she was “directed” to overreact in St. John as what producer in his/her right mind would wish to continue to work with someone so out of control that an “escort” was needed to rush her back to NY? And if Kelly felt herself so “abused and bullied” then why has she agreed to more episodes?

      Answer: ratings and money. They will all do what it takes to remain viable even to the detriment of their own reputations and image.

  13. Blue Sky says:

    WSL, your book could sort of be derived from this blog. You tell your amazing stories, & then the posters that reply could be worked in. Or your slant could be that this blog not only provides a venue for you to escape to, for entertainment, but also support and enlightenment. No one here cares in the blogosphere what your past is or how important you are, they are just responding to your heartwarming posts.

    The internet gives us a place to go to, interact with each other, and then like ships passing quietly in the night, we return to our real worlds to soldier on with our lives. I like to thing that my time spent here is good for my soul, that perhaps by reading what’s on other poster’s minds, my day may be brighter or my mind expanded.

    By the way, to anyone who has suffered domestic abuse, please accept my caring hug, and sorry that I may have stepped on anyone’s sensibilities….love you all.

  14. Wall St Lady says:

    I know it’s a weird (and maybe rude) question, but no disrespect intended, it’s just driving me crazy.
    Would we know u if u came out ?
    By kmuellfa on September 23, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Do u know any recognizable WS men much less women ? Suzie O doesn’t count. Besides Buffet & Soros ,may b Charles Schwab there aren’t even any men known except felons like Madoff etc.
    Gordon Gecko is made up.
    I invented a statistical measurement system/tool that made me well known when I first published it in Barons in the mid 80s. I am well known in a particular high profile segment of WS cuz they use my research & it is published monthly.

    If u google me I have many years of articles,research, & interviews etc. Even my wedding cuz it was in the NYT. It is all because of my invention. Today there r 4 other copy cats of my invention.
    I have been on the cover of the business section of the NYPost,
    the NYT & the WSJ. I have a dot picture from the WSJ & that is considered an honor.
    That being said U R as “good as ur last trade” because WS is such a bastion of EGOs nobody gives a $hit about me. My statistical info. Is recalculated monthly Reuters ,Dow Jones ect. Xs 10 reports it . Because of that every month my co. Is relevant.
    YEA ! & Praise The Lord.

    Also WSM helped me start my own co so I didn’t have to give
    1/2 my/our income.

  15. Adgirl says:

    HAD ENOUGH, Thank you!!! Great recap. Really fab.

    I thought I was the only person who was annoyed at Zoila’s attitude.
    First off, I know she “works a lot of hours” but she has room and board and I also believe Jeff pays her extremely well. He also sponsored her citizenship.
    I had the impression she supports her family back home (in Central Am maybe?). She might be supporting the whole town there.
    I’m sure she is just plain tired. And probably sick of Jeff and his OCD crazy-cranky self. And the stairs are probably a huge problem. but from what I’ve seen she cleans the kitchen, livingroom. 2 baths and 2 bedrooms of a perfectionist. Jett does the outside. And now, OMG she has to go to Whole Foods! Holy shit I’d want a raise too!
    Jeff was being his usual dick and Zoila was milking it. Zzzzz.
    Sarah is too disorganized for Jeff, but he values personality as much as efficiency. Everytime I see her I wonder why she doesn’t buy her clothes a size larger.
    Trace is cool. After her finishes school he wil probably go into business with Jeff and I give it 2 years before he screws Jeff over like Ryan did.

    Those murals at Cole …. I didn;t understand why they weren’t just removed and put into storage then framed and returned as art. I couldn’t believe it took those airheads months to think of doing that after the last mural was painted over with spray paint. I think that story was kind of fake of Jeff would have known they had something to do with the dead brother or whatever.

    • Had Enough! says:

      The internets say she lives with her brothers and sisters and the room where she naps doesn’t seem like anyone actually lives there, so I suspect that the internets are right. He does pay for all the food.

    • quincyil says:

      I think the murals were painted on old plasture. I don’t think you could get it off without breaking it.

  16. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Had Enough for blogging!

    To understand Zoila is not simple… She was born in a Country in war. I do not think that working for Jeff is easy either in whatever position you could be… He is a perfectionist, he demands the best from others because he gives his best. Zoila has been working for Jeff for 11 years and 7 days a week -according to her.
    I strongly think Zoila is depressed, therefore tired most of the time. She has a sad semblant… If she came to The USA when she was 40… she saw enough poverty and human misery.

    I agree we all work full time and clean house and take care of our family seven days a week. We do not get payed for cleaning after ourselves or our love ones. She does. Belive me, it is a hard work because the others only notice your work when it is not done! It is an ungrateful work. She has not better options to choose about. She is not prepared for doing anything other than cleaning houses… Change of career? Impossible!

    I did not come from a Country in war and I did have BIG part of my life somebody cleaning and living in my house. But my parents taught me to be grateful with the women who worked at home (maid) and giving them time for themselves. My Parents came from a Spain devastated for a civil war…

    • error404 says:

      ITA with everything, except that Jeff gives his best to everything. He is, IMHO, making a total cock-up of the Casa Vega job.

      • nathania says:

        I wish you would elaborate on this. I am having trouble following that storyline, there was an error a while back and I missed that episode…Jeff seems to me to want people to read his mind sometimes and when they don’t he has a meltdown.

        What has he done wrong with Casa Vega so far? I’ve noticed the owner’s daughter doesn’t look happy half the time…

        • error404 says:

          1. The Client repeatedly complains that he doesn’t pay the job enough attention, but next week he still seems to be giving it little attention. Perception is 9/10ths of reality.

          2. He never told her a Cinco de Mayo opening was unrealistic, yet when they failed to meet it, he brushed it off as “well, I never said it was definite”.

          3. The front door is all wrong, wrong frame, wrong hardware, etc… But instead of making the door provider provide what they promissed, he’s trying to fix it himself. He ripped Jenni a new one for suggesting that the person responsible for the problem be made to fix it.

          4. He was in NYC when the framing was done, and they didn’t mention anything about someone being assigned the job in his absence. When he returned, he decided the framing was all wrong. Don’t they draw plans?

          5. His rant about the contractor not doing the prep work for the tile was all wrong IMHO, because it didn’t take in consideration labor. They wanted to wait until the tile was in so that they could just do it all in one day, not have to keep puling people off jobs for several days. But considering how Jeff runs all over town for the slimest of reasons, it’s no surprise he’s not an efficient thinker when it comes to time and travel.

          6. next week there are more problems with the quality of work. I don’t know, but I assume Jeff reccommended these people who are all doing crap work, so he looks bad when they fail. They allude to the contractor being let go, but you can’t trust Bravo. Their promos usually have little to do with the actual scenes once shown.

          Like with the painter someone else mentioned, it’s questionable why JEff uses these people who do crap work. He is suppose to be a perfectionist, right?

          • nathania says:

            that is such a mistake. of all the jobs going on this is the one that is going to get him the most recommendations because probably hundreds of people are in and out of there every single day. he should have made this more of a priority than his one-off home renovation clients who might tell ten people total who did their work

          • quincyil says:

            He’s trying to make money and by using the cheapest painters and contractors, he feels he reap the profits. What happened to the really good contractor that started Cole? Jeff was ticked that he lived in a million dollar house at one point. Jeff may have a jealousy streak that he attempts to hide on the show.

            • quincyil says:

              About the ceiling cracks in the plasture at Casa Verda. I’d love to know the time frame of the show. Jeff had the contractor hang the lights on what I think was very recent plasture. Plasture takes time to cure/dry and become solid. It might look dry from the outside and not be dry underneath. That depends on temperatures and humidity. Those lights might have affected the plasture causing the outer surface to dry more quickly and contract over wet layers. This happened to my house with the taping between plasture boards and I did a lot a research to force the contractor to take care of the problem correctly.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Agree with you Cuzi – I have never been disrespectful to anyone I hired to do work for me – be it cleaning, cooking, rennovating or remodeling! When you treat people with respect then you get respect in return.
      And I think Zoila and Jeff have a relationship that is much deeper than what we see on tv – she may just really dislike being on tv and that is why she acts and talks like she does.

    • nathania says:

      I think Zoila has Jeff’s number. I cringe a lot when I watch that show (which is not regularly) because Zoila reminds me of my grandmother and if someone talked to her this way I would have to deck them.

      She must be doing something right, otherwise he wouldn’t keep her around. I think Bravo loves her…if anyone should get a spin-off show, it should be Zoila. That I would definitely watch.

  17. Wall St Lady says:

    That’s give 1/2 of my income to the international co. That I (not WSM) ran a division for is my sector for.

  18. stanbo says:

    I think a lot of the back and forth between Jeff and Zoila is for the cameras. Good help is hard to find and Jeff can at least trust her not to steal and such. He seems to like having all the dysfunction around him because it entertains him, in his own sick twisted way. Idk. I still like this show.

    • stanbo says:

      Free all reports I’ve read behind the scenes, he is really a nice guy and cares about people; I hope he is true to his word and takes care of Zoila in her later years, as he has (if I recall correctly) insinuated he would do.

    • stanbo says:

      OH – and HadEnough, GREAT job on the blog!

      • Had Enough! says:

        Thanks. Lynn deleted the last bit, so I’ll post it here:

        “Well don’t say I didn’t warn you. Boring. This blogging thing is way harder than I imagined. Kadooz to Lynn for doing such a great job day after day! Me? I am not quitting my day job.”

        Maybe I’ll try another one when there is something less grim.

  19. Sha2000 says:

    HadEnough, terrific blog! You did a great job & have a real gift for writing, hope you do another guest blog for us. I didn’t watch FO but I do agree Jeff is funny & very dry, I like him but I can see where people wouldn’t appreciate his sarcasm even though it’s pretty precise. I also like Zolia. Maybe what the cameras don’t catch is what the animals can do to the floors. One of my two cats got very old & ill & unfortunately my baby had to be put to sleep this past Monday. As much as I love him I immediately noticed how much cleaner my floor are now; I literally went having to vacuum and wash them daily (sometimes twice a day) to every few days. He was a Russian blue & had beautiful long hair that constantly shed & track litter (tried everything & everything more) all over. The majority of my floors are tile & wood (with the exception of the carpets in the bedrooms) & my point is the wood show EVERYTHING
    from foot print to paw prints to litter tracked to shed dog & cat hair. Huge, huge cleaning job & I think that’s what Zoila is dealing with; Jeff has how many long haired cats & how many dogs?

    • Sha2000 says:

      Oh I forgot to ad that if Zoila or any of Jeff’s other employees leave, they also leave Bravo. So technically they are getting paid TWICE thanks to Jeff. They all should just deal with whatever they don’t like about his personality because they will never find another gig that comes with TWO checks.

      • stanbo says:

        I wonder if he pays them less because of the Bravo perks?

      • nathania says:

        I have never thought of it that way…in that vein it makes alot of sense why they stay. I think Jenny is a bit of a special case because she does appear to have very thick skin…I don’t think she internalizes much of what Jeff says. I, on the other hand, would be in tears half the time. I don’t know if the blond girl, I can’t remember her name, is going to be able to roll with the punches on this one.

    • stanbo says:

      Sorry about your baby, Sha2000. When I had to put my beloved cat Murray to sleep at the age of 17, I couldn’t believe how much cleaner my condo was. My current cat LOVEs to be brused several times a day, and I really don’t have much of a hair problem with her. That, or I just don’t care as much in my old age, lol.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Thank you Stanbo! I am grieving for my little Elmo but I feel a little guilty at benefiting from his being gone. He was a sprayer on & off for YEARS (we had him 14 or 15 years) even though he was fixed. Last Christmas I had to remove the tree skirt & stack the presents to the side because he would pee on them; I’m excited that my tree can look beautiful to the floor now. I couldn’t have area rugs or little rugs at doors & we can wipe our feet like a normal family, lol the little things you take for granted. I placed a old runner in the laundry room & my husband came in & said WOW we can can have rugs! My little girl Brinny has no interest in peeing anywhere or on anything & she sheds but not as badly, he left clumps like toupees everywhere sweet thing, lol. My dog is a big sheder but I’m thinking of having her shaved short…maybe? So yes we love them but it’s work & as I said I think Zoila may be challenged with keeping the floors clean & at her age.

        • Sha2000 says:

          OH! And I want to say sorry about Murray! I was so hard to do, I feel for your loss too!

          • stanbo says:

            Thanks – Murray went to kitty heaven 6 years ago, but I still think of him every day. He was such a good buddy. My “new” cat is 5 years old and she is wonderful, too. I’ve been blessed with never having a cat who used anything but the litterbox. My little girl stands in front of it every morning waiting for me to scoop it out so it’s all fresh and clean.

            • Sha2000 says:

              I had another cat for 14 years & he’s been gone for about 7 or 8 years now too; I also still think of him every day & sometimes I swear I even see him from the corner of my eye. I tell my husband that my plan B is crazy cat lady : ) but seriously anyone who hasn’t experienced a true a connection with at least one animal is missing out on one of the true wonders of life.

              • jillz68 says:

                Re seeing cats/dogs that have passed onto the great beyond. I see and hear my cat Sidney
                that passed away 5 years ago every now and then. My sister had an Afghan that used to jiggle
                the door handle when he wanted a treat. The night after she put him to sleep she kept
                hearing the door handle jiggle.

                I am very sorry for your loss. It gets easier but if anyone makes me talk about my girls
                that are no longer around I will start crying. It has been years but come on, they are family!

                I am one step away from crazy cat lady. I have 4 (and a chinchilla) but I have said you need more
                than 5 to REALLY be the crazy cat lady. I also never have cat kibble stuck on my
                sweatshirts :). I did watch that Cat Lady show and it did make me feel less crazy.

  20. cusi77 says:

    Zoila does not have better options to choose FROM.
    … giving them RECOGNITION and time for themselves.


  21. This video of Danielle singing her song on Maury was posted yesterday, so I thought that I missed the “Housewives” episode, http://noahfairbanks.com/prostitution-whore-danielle-staub-sings-her-creepy-single-on-maury/

    Ramona & NeNe were also there that day from what I remember, and the title of the episode is “Housewife makeovers”………..anyhow, now I’m seeing mention that the show will be aired today, and I can find one listing that says that it will be on WPIX at noon.
    For some reason, its not showing-up in my local tv listings, and I don’t get WPIX–(but I have seen Maury on my TV-???)
    maybe it aired in some markets yesterday & some today?

    • stanbo says:

      Thanks for killing my appetite before lunch, lol! God, I can’t stand her. Wonder how fast she’ll drop the fake lesbian act once Logo shitcans her pleas for a reality show?

      • Waxdiva says:

        Probably soon, as ‘alledgedly’ Lori is dipping into another lady pond!


        • Sha2000 says:

          The gay thing wasn’t believed & or no one cared so I be it’s Danielle putting this story out. Lesbian or not no one cared. Besides, they looked similar, Lori younger but similar; who wants to sleep with someone that looks like you?

        • stanbo says:

          Wonder what (I would say “who”, but I don’t think animals and inanimate objects are beyond the realm of possibility) Danielle will move to next?

          • Sha2000 says:

            Well yesterday some one posted a pic here of her holding up a dildo & smiling, so that takes care of inanimate objects. There’s this on her today, makes me think she leaks these things:


            Witness protection, lol this woman would put up a billboard with her face & name(s) on it if she thought it could get her some more recognition.

            • nathania says:

              That is one thing I’ve read about her that might actually be true. It also would explain her drive to get as much publicity as possible, as insulation. When I first read about her pistol-whipping that guy I knew that was probably the tip of the iceberg. Just like on the reunion where she says “I really liked pot”…um, you mean pot with cocaine sprinkled on it, lol. With Danielle if you take what she actually says and multiply it by like a thousand you might be coming somewhere close to the truth. It totally makes sense to me now that she can sit there cool as cucumber while Teresa screams in her face, or chases her, or whatever…she has been through much much worse in her life, I am sure. She is definitely playing for keeps with these junior league wanna-be mafiosa ladies…they really have no idea and no concept of what they are up against. If I were Teresa Giudice I would ‘forgive’ her too… I have always suspected that the reason that the Manzos recruited Teresa and kept her around despite her being such an embarassment is that they were frightened of Danielle and not sure what she was capable of, because maybe they rightly suspected she was a kind of crazy they had never encountered before. Teresa, being a garden variety rageaholic, was nothing compared to Danielle…just don’t make her mad, lol, and you’ll be fine. I’m sure not many people have stolen that amount of cocaine and lived to tell about it, if Aguilar is telling the truth, I think he’s the one that has said from the beginning that she was going to end up dead. eventually. It’s interesting to me thinking about the old Pablo Escobar quotes about how he was going to drop cocaine on america, like a bomb…and here so many years later we have the RHONJ and Danielle Staub as a by-product turning us in to reality zombies. Escobar is probably laughing in his grave.

              • Sha2000 says:

                “That is one thing I’ve read about her that might actually be true. It also would explain her drive to get as much publicity as possible, as insulation.”

                Agree Nathania, I though about that later on. Maybe if everyone knows who she is, she can’t then just disappear. That could be her fear.

        • nathania says:

          Ha! So the whispers were true, Lori was dating Courtney when this all began, people were saying this from the beginning. I think all of this started Live on WWHL when Andy asked the two of them if they were involved, and Lori nods her head ‘no’ and then Danielle jumps in and says something like ‘all we are saying is we are ‘real close’, and suddenly Lori is caught up in the midst of something she didn’t anticipate, but Danielle assures her there is no such thing as bad publicity (Wrong!) and to just roll with it, so Lori reluctantly goes along with it. I bet Courtney has been fuming about this silently all along…because no self-respecting lesbian is going to subject herself to the potential risk of exposure to the kind of microbes that someone as non-discriminately heterosexual as Danielle is might be annointed with, and that is putting it as politely as possible. I bet this has been a painful ride for Lori. I don’t know how she met Danielle, but it’s clear she started out as a producer and nothing more, somehow became aware of the fact that Danielle can carry a tune (at least sometimes, the Bravo performance was very well done) and decided to duet with her.

          I don’t know if it has helped her career or not, it increased public knowledge of her, but probably not positively.

          • Olivia says:

            Danielle was just “itching” to get her own show. She would have used the kids and their “careers” in music and modeling to gain a foothold.

            Lori was along for the ride in order to promote her own career ambitions and if that meant “teasing” the audience into believing that they were a “couple” then she was willing. Now that Danielle is looking at nothing more than being a “star” by way of a courtroom, the mask comes off.

            Danielle probably thought that Lori could jumpstart poor little Jillian’s “career” in music and Lori probably thought that her own music would get a bigger play.

            As usual, the entire thing was contrived from the start in order to pull in the publicity until they each found out that the public could not care less in either one of them.

            • nathania says:

              I think that is what happened but I don’t think that it was pre-meditated by Lori, I think she found herself smack dab in the middle of a mess and didn’t know how to proceed. Her music definitely seems geared toward lesbians and club music, and she appears to have an audience there…it’s not my cup of tea but in that genre I think she does pretty well. I had never heard of her but from what I have found out online she seems to be a decent person who made an error in judgement (perhaps…maybe it will pay off in the end). I don’t think the book has been written on Danielle, Jillian and Christine…I think Jillian has music yet to be released, and if Christine rises to a certain level of success that show might happen, eventually…something in the manner of “Living Lohan” or whatever that was called. I do believe that Lori saw a different side of Danielle than the one that was portrayed by Bravo, who did edit her quite unsympathetically compared to how they have propped up the other ‘ladies’. There is a nuance here that people are missing, again and again, about Danielle, she could actually be bisexual, which is a legitimate sexual preference, she never claimed to be a lesbian explicitly, not that I have seen, anyway. She said she has had ‘six’ girlfriends and quite a percentage of sex workers are lesbian or bisexual. It really isn’t all that unique. I think it’s factually wrong to indict her for pretending to be a “lesbian”, my issue was her pretending to be in this particular relationship, when Lori and Courtney were known to be a couple prior. I feel like Lori was strong-armed into that illusion by being put on the spot on live television, and then it just snowballed.

              • You know what’s funny is that the story of how Lori & Danielle met has been changing recently. First it was that Lori was Jillian’s voice teacher, then Danielle recently said that she met Lori at a gay pride event, then Lori said something else, then Danielle said something else.
                I wondered why they were changing the “1st met” story, but I guess they were trying to create a back-story to a fake relationship? The idea that the whole thing started with Andy is pretty funny & actually makes sense.

              • Sha2000 says:

                Yes she might be bisexual, but I think the whole lesbian thing was for show more than a preference & a lifestyle. I could care less if you are gay or not, but I do hate this lesbian for show attitude that’s swept this nation. From Madonna kissing Brittney Spears to Katie Perrys song “I Kissed a girl”, to Danielle’s supposed homosexuality coming out on WWHL coincidentally at the same time she releases a duet with a woman singing a song titled “So close” that hints at something more. Yes, she might be Bi but this Lori thing seemed staged & stupid, at least that’s how I read it.

              • quincyil says:

                Danielle’s existence is one big lie. I doubt that she can tell the truth about anything.

              • quincyil says:

                I noted on this board that Lori showed an odd look when Andy asked about their relationship on the night Danielle first sang for WWHL. I have it taped and you can see Lori almost shake her head meaning no. I think it was always a sham. Danielle was acting.

  22. @twilighttwitti says:

    Zoila can’t retire now, housekeepers don’t have a 401K or a pension plan. Jeff is way to hard on her. When he asked Zoila to get him his juice, I instantly wanted to slap him. He is demeaning to Zoila and most of his employees. I believe Zoila is slow because he works her to the bone and ask her to do to many menial tasks which can be mentally and physically exhausting not to mention time consuming. Jeff is a prick of the highest order. Enough said!

    • stanbo says:

      I would def tire of his OCD rather quickly, but I think he needs to be put in his place. And Zoila often does that, and I think with editing that’s ALL we seem to see her do. I think the only way Jeff knows how to show emotions is to be biting and sarcastic. I get it, and its fun to a point, but it can also get very tiring.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jeff was interesting and funny when he was on WWHL….it was a different side from Flipping Out. Sometimes I forget we only see what is shown us and that makes it hard to figure out what drives some of these people.

    • KK says:

      I agree. He’s mean. Simon (Tamara’s husband) is controlling, but if Simon talked to Tamara like Jeff did his employee’s it would be emotional abuse.

      Yes, Simon is abusive. I’m just saying Simon doesn’t belittle Tamara to the extent on camera that Jeff does his employees.

    • Had Enough! says:

      You are right that she probably does not have a pension plan or 401(k) but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have retirement savings, i.e., a Roth IRA or just plain old-fashioned savings. Jeff may have encouraged her over the years to save for retirement or may even have put money away for her.

      Housekeeping is menial work. I actually love it for this reason. I can do the work and in a few hours, my house looks great. My paid work – can take months or years to finish a project and it is mentally exhausting. Nothing I love more than painting a room. Totally menial and totally rewarding.

      • quincyil says:

        I do my own housework. It’s a big house, but neither of us is messy. I call it exercise. I also go to my mother’s two days a week and listen to her talk about her church friends while I clean her house. She needs attention and I need exercise. It works for both of us.

  23. Olivia says:

    Not that anyone ever considered Teresa Phi Beta Kappa material, but she is not showing any sense of “maternal concern” by running all over the country being interviewed and making special appearances while her husband is sitting in jail.

    Gia is old enough at this time to be aware of the circumstances. Some parents from the school have probably let slip the circumstances of her life and it would not be a stretch for her classmates to make fun of her. Kids can be cruel.

    Teresa would be better served by downsizing her lifestyle and devoting her time to caring for her own family rather than tripping all over the place in a financial bid to remain living above her means. At least some of the publicity would die down a little and her kids would benefit.

    No one “deserves” to live in a multi million dollar mansion they could never afford or buying up armfuls of crap just to be heralded as “Teresa being Teresa”. With Juicy Joe sitting in jail and deprived of a license for the next year, they must surely be relying on family handouts and her dumb appearances in order to buy food.

    It is only a guess on my part, but it would seem that they would need to clear at least $20,000 a month to get by living in that atrocity and I seriously doubt Bravo is shelling out that much in order for her to remain. She also needs to consider that this show probably won’t last another season or two then where will the money come from?

    If Gia is in a Catholic school, you know they are paying tuition. In my city that is about $3,000 a month and goes up each year. But either way, four kids need to be clothed, fed, and sheltered and they cannot count on this show to last a lifetime.

    These two need to rethink their lifestyle and become aware that no one owes them a living. They stepped into this goo all on their own.

    • Sha2000 says:

      “It is only a guess on my part, but it would seem that they would need to clear at least $20,000 a month to get by living in that atrocity”

      I would guess that 20k a month just to meet the mortgage(s) and pay utilities & insurance. If they want to eat, they need to make more. I guess one only has to tweet the question Kim G & I’d bet she’d be happy to confirm the monthly cost considering her house is the same size.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO Teresa probably believes she/they can make enough money to keep her silly castle and flashy lifestyle – she is in denial and until she is willing to see what is reality (living with their means) and important (their children and their future) she will continue to be Teresa being Teresa! Wondering if once the bankruptsy is declined she will continue the frantic appearance pace she is now on – it will really piss her off to have her income seized and paid to those they owe!

    • If You Had It Like This says:

      Well said Olivia! … from a lurker and occasional poster.

      ‎”Don’t go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.” Mark Twain

  24. In case anyone is interested, there’s been some activity going-on in one of Real Old Housewife of Manatee’s blog posts about Kim G. I posted a link to the post on my blog so that I can keep-up with the comments. -ROHWOM even made some follow-up posts about Kim G. and her ridiculousness, but for some reason, commenters who claim to know Kim personally, have been returning to that specific post to dish–> http://njhousewives.blogspot.com/

    • Olivia says:

      OMG! Looks like most of NJ hates Kim G as much as I do! This lady is “whacked” and from the comments it appears that Kim G has had quite a bit going in her own background that would preclude her from even taking swipes at Danielle or Teresa.

      Her poor kids. They must be dying of embarrassment at her antics and involvement with a married man with two kids.

      I said it from the outset, there was nothing even remotely appealing about Kim G. Definitely nuts.

    • nathania says:

      those posts are a hoot!

      I guess it would be horrifying to suddenly have the name of your town associated with things like this…

      “Theresa Guidice is from Montville. Don’t throw her in with us. She is another nut and she is NOT from our town. Neither is Danielle who was from Wayne. Caroline and Dina Manzo are the only ones who had any assemblance of class. They tried to keep the show real and I don’t think they did anything to be ashamed of. Of course anyone who goes on a show like this is exposed and leaves themselves open to criticism but IMO they tried their best not to do anything to shame our town. Jacqueline is also from Franklin Lakes and she also kept her composure most of the time. Danielle, Theresa and Kim were the ones who really dragged us down and two of them are not even from Franklin Lakes.”

      It’s so…so…local. Poor folks.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        remember this is the franchise that likes to fight in public….no one wants their town to have a poor reputation because of these thugettes

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Did you see the NJ Housewive bus tour update? Now who has to see their homes in person when we are treated to them every episode? And why do they spend so much of each episode showing those “homes” anyway?

  25. cusi77 says:

    After living for many years having a “Zoila” working for me… and not having her anymore, I have a new philosophy:

    “In this house we are clean enough to be healthy,
    and filthy enough to be happy”

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Amen, Cusi! I grew up with two housekeepers, both named Eva. When I went away to school, my aunt visited my dorm and left me a note in my messy room that said, “We MUST have Eva come visit you here” – hee!

      You have no idea how much I miss them both now that I am grown and have no Eva of my own 😉

    • error404 says:

      ITA! And the cat was out of the bag this past episode when both Jett and Jenni told us that the house basically starts out clean, but Jeff has Zoila clean it all over again every day because he’s crazy. Like Joan Crawford, Jeff is just “mad at the dirt” but that doesn’t not make him an insane “boss dearest” making his employees dance around his psychological issues. When’s he gonna get laid already? We’ll all benefit from it.

      • Sha2000 says:

        I cried when I moved & said goodbye to my housekeeper. I was only once a week & I cleaned side by side with her at times, but she became like family & the feeling was mutual. That’s why Jeff keeps Zolia on.

      • cusi77 says:

        Error_ You made me laugh out Lauder! I thought the same… so much “cleansiness” maybe is lack of sexual life… Go find a friend Jeff! ASAP!

  26. Wall St Lady says:

    Had Enough
    U do have a way w/words !
    tschotschkes now that I would have spelled it cochkas. I better go to dictionary that can’t b the same word.
    I like Jeff I am a nooge w/my employees too.When I mentioned to a titan of WS that my employees complained WSM micro managed. He said when he was young they called it mentoring !
    I too thought the high heels were stupid. Whenever WSM & I notice 4″ heeled gals hanging onto a man on the streets of NY we always say “she not married yet & wants to be & she better b careful not to trip & kill herself.” (No offense Diva. U probably aren’t walking blocks)
    Jeff is always laughing under his breath. When I need to scold my nieces I pinch myself so they can’t see me laugh. I know my motive ;I don’t know his.
    Thanks for the review D. Now I don’t have to watch it. U confirmed its the same old same old.

  27. Waxdiva says:

    Tre has become very innovative… the drunk book tour. Notice she will be signing her hit book!

  28. Sha2000 says:

    Okay here’s a gauge finally to find out if we are really addicted to the HW shows or not:
    If you want to look through 500 photos of the HW’s, I’d say it’s too late for an intervention, lol.

  29. error404 says:

    1. The dogs are not housebroken because Jeff couldn’t train a bird to fly. His staff is made to look incompitent because they get 0 training, only admonishment.

    2. When Jeff went to NYC Sarah handled everything perfectly. Sure, we know she makes little mistakes, we all do, but we don’t have Bravo camera’s making an entire episode over the fact that we wrote the phone number down on our desk but haven’t yet copied it into the file. Puhlease! If I had a dollar for every time someone at work had to be reminded to share client info into the general rolodex, I could retire early. The real question is why do people like Sarah allow Bravo to make public fools of them, trying to make them seem like idiots when they are not. Is pseudo-fame really worth it?

    3. Getting paid more for doing more is smart and Zoila asked for it because unlike Jett, she’s older and has learned not to be abused by users like Jeff. Jett, a young father, is desperate. He doesn’t have the relationship with Jeff that Zoila does, so no, he can’t really stick up for himself like she can. He now has to go all over to rental properties for no extra pay and unlike Zoila, didn’t even get a car out of it. He’ll learn.

    4. Jeff’s humor is dry, and that is sometimes funny like when he said the baby had a monobrow. You can laugh at the sexist work stuff all you want, I remember when we all laughed at “dumb polish” jokes and it was acceptable, but it was sooooo not funny if you really think about it. It’s hard enough for women to be taken seriously in construction jobs, a boss like Jeff taking the sexist contractor’s side instead of his employee’s just shows what a jerk he is a heart.

    • Had Enough! says:

      But she really isn’t doing more. She’s being told that she has to do what she was hired to do and that Jett won’t be able to pick up her slack. It isn’t new duties; it is stuff she is supposed to be doing and has gotten away with not doing it.

      I also don’t see the problem in asking someone who is paid full time to clean to do that work every day. It isn’t like she is paid to do it 2-3 days a week and he’s asking her to do it 4-5. She is paid to clean the house, 5 days a week.

      It isn’t just that Sarah makes mistakes. It is that she doesn’t care. She doesn’t try to do better. Her attitude is “oh, ok, whatever.” That’s why she reminds me of Trashley. That plus that pudgy face.

      • error404 says:

        zoila’s added duty was to now do the shopping, and she was shown returning from a trip to the store when Jeff climbed under the stairs and started freaking out because he found dust in a crevice than no human creature would ever venture in.

        Just because Sarah doesn’t burst into tears and kiss Jeff’s feat doesn’t mean she doesn’t try. Shrugging ones shoulders and pretending the sticks and stones of a bully don’t hurt is a typical response by many people.

        Jeff’s rules are idiotic, like the humilation jumpsuit. News flash to Jeff, the rest of the world gets their assistant their own credit card so this problem doesn’t exist.

  30. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi error404.
    Your comment :
    Jeff couldn’t train a bird to fly. Is one that I will repeat & think of u.
    BTW what does error404 mean if I may ask ?

    • error404 says:

      from our friends at Wiki:

      “The 404 or Not Found error message is a HTTP standard response code indicating that the client was able to communicate with the server, but the server could not find what was requested. …A 404 error indicates that the requested resource may be available again in the future.”


      ” In 2008, a study found that “404” had become a slang synonym for “clueless” in the UK/Ireland areas. “

  31. BKAamia009 says:

    I m not surprised that the Dad on raising sextuplets was arrested. Another Jon & kate, BUT HE IS THE KATE!

  32. boston02127 says:

    Had Enough—Great Recap & thank you. I will clap for you and click for Lynn.

  33. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s giving advice about empowerment/career advice. I thought she only knew how to use men and marry rich. Who knew!

    Jill’s tweet—–
    Jillzarin Check out my page in the Jones NY Little Black Book of Career Advice http://www.jny.com/Empowerment/CAREER-ADVICE,default,pg.html#jill-zarin

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      Countless is there also. The link below is a picture of Countless and Jill. Bravo is probably filming this. I hope they edit it out. Countless and Jill are BORING together!

      Countess LuAnn de Lesseps Going to the First Annual Jones New York Power Lunch today to celebrate the launch of the “Empowering Your Confidence” campaign, which celebrates the brand’s over 35 years of empowering women’s lives and successes through style.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        This sounds like something Kelly would want to be at too! Do we know if the empowered, authentically inane, integrity laden tastemaker was even asked????

  34. Gypsy862 says:

    Hi all, haven’t posted much lately but do check out the blog every day.

    Anyway, I just finished reading Tim Gunn’s new book, “Gunn’s Golden Rules: Life’s Little Lessons for Making It Work.” It’s a fun read and you’ll love this: Near the end he talks about how it’s best to take the high road when dealing with people but sometimes you have to stand up foryourself. He gives as an example that the Countess sent him a copy of her etiquette book before it was published and asked him to write the foreward. When he politely declined, she said, “Oh, don’t worry, I’ll write it for you.” He then firmly told her no, that there was a conflict of publishers!

    Hah, obviously the Countess and Jill have lots in common. No surprise there.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Fabulous morsel you found there! Thanks for passing it on – love it 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Tim Gunn is a riot – love his style and he knows how to say what he means without being nasty. Just downloaded his new book too.

  35. boston02127 says:

    @ housewifehater–Great link above, thx. I copied the Bus Tour info from there. Who in their right mind would pay $2.00 never mind $75 for this? I wonder who is running this? Maybe lazy Albie got a job as the bus driver.

    NJ Housewives Tour Bus:
    The special discount-rate of $75. has been extended for one more week on the previously mentioned HOUSEWIVES Bus Tour. For more info check their Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Wayne-NJ/The-NJ-Housewives-Tour/142127712490698

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      eeeewwwwwwww! Squared!

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Speaking of the Manzo boys, I was watching an episode of SNAPPED (don’t judge me, lol) based on a Joisey case and lo and behold, who is sitting behind the defendant … Albie Manzo, in his grey suit. I did a double take, pressed rewind and asked Real Husband if he could verify. Yup. It’s him. Snapped on Oxygen on Demand. I think episode 720 something. He may have been clerking for the killer’s lawyers while in law school years ago.

      • Seriously, if I had the extra cash, and a sure way to get to North Jersey that day, I would get on that bus! I still have a reservation pending but I’m afraid to look at my email because they’ve already sent me one reminder.
        Two reasons why I think it would be a good way to waste an afternoon-lunch at The Brownstone, (a 4 course lunch, how many courses can you have in a lunch?)–The Brownstone is actually a catering place and not a restaurant, so unless a person has, or is invited to a wedding or big event, there are not many chances to dine there. Also, although the tour people don’t make any promises, how could you go on that tour, and eat at The Brownstone, and not bump-into some of the cast?
        The shopping at Posche makes me think that you would surely see Kim D.
        I may even buy an extra scratch-off ticket today to try & raise the extra $$ that I would need to go on the tour.
        The fact that they have extended the special price makes me think that ticket sales are going slow?-I hope that they don’t have to cancel it.-But it is expensive when you consider that a lot of people like to take a friend, and for the cost of two tix, you could just about go on a mini-cruise.

        • Blue Sky says:

          Housewifehater, save your money. I’ll take you for free. As an extra, would you like to see where the real mafioso live ? There are plenty here. Also houses where mob hits went down. Or where mysterious fires broke out, where money was buried in vacant lots (yea, really) and where some of the politicians that took bribe money from the mob lived, before going to jail. How about the crook that passed out that $ ? I know where he lives (in the same upscale community as I do). He’s supposed to be in jail, but got let out for “medical reasons.” Let’s see then there are the strip joints, shady restaurants (T appeared recently at one less than 10 miles from my house) and we haven’t even gotten to that hair salon in Jerseylicious or the Jersey Shore bars….so much to see and do in NJ.

          I’ve heard the food isn’t that great at the Brownstone. Maybe just stop in for a bathroom break, and go to some other great restaurant in NJ.

          Can you tell I’m bitter? Bruce Springsteen has a farm just a few miles south…his daughter was in a recent horse jumping contest. Sigh. Wish we could see that instead. Or how about Bon Jovi’s house on the banks of the Navesink river? He’s rarely there, but the house is spectacular. NJ is beautiful in the fall, too. I wish people wanted to come to NJ for better reasons than the crazy faux wives.

          • Had Enough! says:

            The Boss is 61 years old today. And I still haven’t slept with him. That sucks.

            My first house – when we first looked at it, there was a framed autograph from Bruce hanging on the wall. I tried to write it into the offer.

            I may have lived in Boston (Kenmore Sq.), Bryn Mawr, Baltimore, and DC, but I am and always will be a Jersey Girl.

            Now baby won’t you come with me
            `cause down the shore everything’s all right
            You and your baby on a saturday night
            cause nothing matters in this whole wide world
            When you’re in love with a jersey girl

            • Buffywood says:

              OMG me too!

              Love the Boss. I went to Europe the summer after my sophomore year in High School. When I was in Munich we went to a well know bar call The Hofbrauhaus. We were getting quite drunk and singing loudly (and badly I am sure), when who walks in but Bruce himself. He came over and sat down with us for a while. He gave us 7 tickets to his concert the following night. There is no much better in the world then singing “Born in the USA” 2nd row at the Munich Olympic Gardens! It was one of the best nights of my life. As luck would have it we caught his show again in Paris (no free tickets).

              There is another good story about that same tour later in the summer when he played in Philly but it pales by comparison.

              • 201MaryF says:

                I’m a Jersey Girl too. All my life, except for 5 years when I lived in Cali.

                I live in the same general area as the NJ housewives, but I don’t know anyone like them.

            • Ellabean says:

              I also respect the Boss enormously – artistically, politically, an all around good guy. But it was the great Tom Waits that wrote that song that Bruce recorded and made famous.

              Bruce is regularly spotted ’round these parts of Joisey as Blue Sky said. He has a farm in Colts Neck – right down the road from where Heather Locklear and Richie Sambora had one when they were married. Yep – and Max Weinberg lives round here too (Bruce’s longtime drummer and Conan bandleader). My hub knows him thru business.

              Yep and Jon Bon Jovi too. He is a good around guy – and so is Dorthea his wife. Don’t care a whit for his music but like him personally. Yeah – his mansion on tha Navesink River – very nice.

          • Blue Sky-your tour sounds a lot more FUN! That burying $$ in coffee-cans must be some old Italian tradition, I’ve heard of that before?
            I have my own crime boss ankle-bracelet neighbor. His home may as well be a prison because it is surrounded by a cement fence-it looks-like a compound-(think Philly Mob, I’m in South Jersey).
            I couldn’t even bring myself to watch Boardwalk Empire even though I love the actor playing Nookie Johnson, because it just reminds me how things never change in NJ politics. The NJ Housewives original promotional photo on the Boardwalk in AC actually has Al Capone’s old “love nest” apartment in the background.
            We don’t have the stone mansions & old estates in this area of South Jersey that they have in other parts of the state-I’m thinking that’s probably due to floods & such?
            I met one of Springsteen’s & Bon Jovi’s neighbors this Summer & they told me that they are the nicest people in real life. They both have teenagers and this person had one too so she ran into them a lot. I love the Asbury Park/Spring Lake area, and I’d even like to retire there if they ever finish the re-development. I have a thing for deserted beach towns in the Winter.
            My kids bought me the “Tilly” edition of Weird Jersey magazine before they tore it down and I keep it in pristine condition.

    • nathania says:

      that is so funny, Caroline was just quoted as telling the Jersey shore kids to ‘do your thing’ I can hear her muttering, ‘but not with my Son!’ under her breath.

  36. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Great blog Had Enough.

    I didn’t see the episode, but what stands out is Zoila “cleaning” Jeff’s grandmother’s place on the weekend. She seems awfully tired as is. Climbing those stairs, continually to clean an already clean house. Keeping up with pets who don’t care to be housebroken. Also, occasionally babysitting Jett’s baby. If indeed she “volunteers” to clean granny’s house, my question is WHY? Why would the grandmother of a wealthy interior decorator, not have a maid or scheduled cleanings? Could Zoila have been manipulated, into caring for and later taken the responsibility for cleaning the grandmother’s house? This second cleaning gig would also explain her exhaustion.

    • error404 says:

      it gets worse. She works for jeff 6 days a week, with only Sun off. She works for his grandma every other sunday, so in every month, she only gets 2 days off, but people here continuously call her lazy and a whiner. Whatever.

      Anywho, troubled that his house wasn’t “cleansy” enough, Jeff fires her from the grandma job so she can rest up on sundays and make his spotless house ever spotlesser the other six days. Zoila cries because over the years she’s grown attached to the old woman and will miss her as well as worries about how the new cleaner will treat her. In response to this news, Jeff yells at her for not being appreciate of her new car in the exact way he wants her to be appreciative.

  37. jen says:

    hahaha…Bravo put kabosh on Teresa’s table flipping contest b/c it was a bad PR stunt…now they doing a Teresa look alike contest- the zoo will be empty of apes that night!

  38. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wondering what Caroline is thinking about her sons latest escapades? Chris getting a lap dance from the latest Jersey Shores guidette……both going on Patty’s show…..clearly they are cutting the apron strings very publically! Poor Caroline….she is learning she has less and less control over her family (and herself).

    • Buffywood says:

      Did you see the article below that one where Dina and Teresa “trash” the Jersey Shore” saying they set a bad example”? Are you kidding me? The comments to those two were priceless. Hello… Pot meet Kettle…

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Me thinks Teresa and Dina were there partying in their younger days and are scared to death that their daughters may follow in their footsteps.

    • dumberries says:

      Betchya a dollar that Caroline makes a “surprise” appearance on Patti’s goat rodeo to help screen the candidates for her babies’ affections…

  39. Blue Sky says:

    Very interesting reading the comments on Really Old Housewife of Mannatee County’s

    I live in NJ, less than 50 miles from NYC, and you cannot tell where one town ends & the next starts. I really wouldn’t want those faux wives living in my town (especially Teresa) but honestly, would I care? Nope. Most people have more to do than worry about the crazy people that live in their town. I never see the same people out shopping, etc. maybe recognize a few at football games. It’s not a “small town vibe.”

    I plan on getting the hell out of Jersey, where property taxes are beyond belief (over $16,000 for me, $10,000 is average) and the cost of living is not worth it. Just waiting for my son to graduate high school. So don’t feel sorry for the residents of Franklin Lakes or wherever. In a few years, nobody will remember the names of the NJ housewives, let alone what town they came from.

    For several years, the number of people leaving NJ has been greater than the # moving in….due to cost of living, property taxes, unaffordable to live in this state. Why else is juicy joe in so much trouble? He needs to make $500,000 or more to afford his lifestyle…and he wasn’t even paying the state or federal taxes!! The crook, deserves to go to jail for far longer IMO.

    • Ellabean says:

      Blue Sky – fellow Jersey-ite here. Counting down til I can leave too. Taxes – cost of living – all that you said. Wish I could move into NYC for the culture. That’s the only reason to live in NJ is the close proximity to NYC – but only if you take regularly take advantage of all NYC that it has to offer.

      I live in an area that is borderline – 10 min in one direction are some lovely horse farms, estates , gorgeous water views, hey and Jon Bon Jovi’s house.

      The other immediate direction is the worst of Jersey with all the cliches: rude & crude, lack of education and no self aware people with narrow minds and no class to take basic care of their homes brandishing religion & patriotism and voting regularly against their best economic interests.

      • Blue Sky says:

        Ellabean, what’s your zip code? Rt. 35 runs thru my town…sounds like we may be in the same area. Colt’s Neck is just south of me. I can see NYC from the high hills of the town I live in. I know Red Bank, Middletown, & the Boss’s old hometown – Freehold really well. I’ve lived in Monmouth county for 25 + years. My husband’s dream is to live in Manhattan, but that’s lots of money. It is cool to live so close to NYC. The bedbugs have me scared now! I love Broadway shows, but are the bedbugs invading the theaters? Maybe WSL knows.

        About the money buried in the backyard: that’s from “operation bid rig” that the FBI did in Marlboro, Keyport, Asbury Park, & Middletown originally. Google the kingpin’s name (Spalliero) he actually told the former mayor of Marlboro how to bury the bribe money…oh yeah, it was over $250,000 – who knows how much. I’m afraid to tell more Mafia stories, those people really do kill. (Please keep me safe Lynn!) But other crooks bury money too, see you can’t keep it in the bank, or anywhere the Feds might find it. I’m telling you, when Teresa talked about the “money tree” she was referring to all the $ Juicy stashed in the dirt, most likely. Where did all the money that went thru his hands end up? They weren’t paying taxes!

        I love Springsteen. His song “Born to Run” from the 1st album is one of my favorites. Queen Latifah has a house in Colts Neck too. I didn’t know there were so many Jersey ladies on the blog, nice to know! Shout out to Buffy, Housewifehater, 201MaryF, HadEnough, & Ellabean

        • Ellabean says:

          Heya Blue. I think we are close. Know Rt. 35 very very well. I am 07716. Sounds like you might be 07733. I used to work in 07733 at the music venue. I hear ya on the recent big FBI town sting. Zow. Love your posts and Jersey observations ! 🙂

    • quincyil says:

      I looked at the basic costs of providing for Jill Zarin, her homes, her vacations, and designer clothes a while back. Without considering taxes, I guessed that Bobby better bring in at least 2 million dollars a year.

      If Joe had 500,000 dollars, half of that would go to taxes right off the bat. I don’t think you can live Teresa’s lifestyle on less than an income of 1.6 million and that is a lot of pizzas for one small restaurant.

      I read that Teresa is getting 4,000 an appearance. How many businesses will see that cost as helping them to make a profit? I guess people pay tens of thousands to see some political stars, but Teresa? Why?

      • Blue Sky says:

        You are right Quincy, he would need $1.6 million, but that’s if he’s paying taxes, personal and business, which juicy doesn’t like to do. With T’s extravagant tastes, well $10 million a year probably wouldn’t be enough for her! What angers me is that many of these crooks own their own shady businesses, they are not reporting all their income (cash & no trace where it came from is what they like). Pizzerias are notorious for money laundering and well, just take cash, don’t report it. One of the best businesses to have for these cheaters is …. yup landscaping. Did you know T’s brother had or has a landscaping business? It’s disgusting how they use bankruptcy to loot $, rip off everyone, and then “get a fresh start.” Juicy’s brother declared bankruptcy a few years ago. Reportedly the largest one in the county he lived in. The FBI, IRS etc. can’t catch them all, & they use that too.

    • quincyil says:

      I spent my break reading those comments. They are incredible. I think it’s Lynn blog worthy.

  40. WindyCityWondering says:

    Could you do your internet magic and pull the October 2010 Vanity Fair, Barbarians at the Shore article by James Wolcott? It is hysterically funny and I don’t know how to get it here for everyone to enjoy.

  41. CdnFillie says:

    hmmm…seems Facebook is down

  42. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Great blog! I still enjoy watching Flipping Out, but I just wish Sarah would be gone. She’s just annoying.

    I have to say that I enjoyed the reunion show for Top Chef D.C. and am VERY happy that Tiffany (and Angelo) will be on Top Chef All-Stars. There are some really talented chefs that will be part of All-Stars. A plus for Top Chef All-Stars is that Anthony Bourdain will be the fourth judge. That series will definitely be DVR’d. Oh, I was also surprised to hear that Andy has been at some tapings of the judges table for Top Chef and he was less annoying last night than his WWHL.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Wasn’t Andy going to name the fan favorite on the TC reunion show? Did I miss it?

    • nathania says:

      I didn’t know this since I missed the reunion. I love Tiffany…this is going to be a great show. I wish I could watch Just Desserts but I am trying to lose weight and that is the equivalent of porn for me.

  43. Wall St Lady says:

    Too bad Ms Gorilla Juicy’s
    Cage is not cleansley. U better get ur family joorry
    B JAZZled & if u also stick it in cake I bet Mrs. Gorilla will snack on ur banna & maybe even get a matching b zazzed wo wo

  44. 61lilbit says:

    I still enjoy FO but I have to admit its to a lesser degree then in prior years. I became irritated within the first episode when Jeff threatend to let someone in his staff go because of money issues. However, a few minutes earlier he had gone on and on how his business tripled once he had removed any connection with his prior partners website, so WTF?! The only reason I could see for this decision to possibly let someone go is to CREATE drama. The first season was his outragious behavior got the ratings, second season was the the fall out from doing a nanny cam on Jenni’s husband and subsequent divorce, last season was the economy and Ryan’s betrayal. So this season had to have fake drama because everything else is gravy and this stunt in an economy where millions are unemployed and many more millions live with uncertainty about their jobs leaves more then a bad taste in my mouth.

    Also I agree with Had Enough about Sara. Another dynamic that kept me coming back for more was the interactions between Jeff and Jenni, now it seems as if Jenni is slowly being replaced with Sara, and Jenni hardly gets air time. This may be Jenni’s idea or Bravo’s or even Jeff’s but the combo sticks, it reminds me of when they brought out Coke One and it failed miserably. Jenni is Coke Classic and Sara is a poor subsitute.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Jeff said on the show that Jenni will probably marry her dr boyfriend, so he’s passing her up and putting his assistant (forgot his name) who is graduating college soon as the front runner to take over his business.

      • 61lilbit says:

        I can’t begrudge Jenni finding love with a mature, responsible man, however, I can’t help but selfishly miss seeing those two trading barbs. I guess thats what I don’t like most about Sara, Jenni gave as good as she got with Jeff and it was entertaining. I can seeing ditzy blonde galore if I watch RHOC, LOL

      • quincyil says:

        Jenny loves the limelight. She’ll stay with Jeff as long as the show goes on. She is the creator and producer of
        “Flipping Out.” She is laughing all the way to the bank.

    • error404 says:

      ITA and thank you for saying it better than I could. With most of us hanging on for dear life, watch a TV show where they fake people possibly losing their jobs just for “drama” makes me dislike the show.

  45. JKW says:

    Scorpiosue…I also enjoyed the reunion on Top Chef. The Pea Puree Conspiracy continues…and is boring. I like Angelo and Tiffany and it will be great to see them again. Then again with Jen and Mike from last season…they may blow them all away. I especially liked Jen and wished she would have made it to the finals.

  46. JKW says:

    Casey was ok but I don’t think she will stand a chance. Tiffani was a royal bitch and for once I was happy to see a female lose. Hootie Who, Carla will be great to see. I don’t think Spike has a chance. I would be happy with never seeing or hearing Marcel again. I hope he changes his hair…but I doubt it. Jen was great, she had no ego and if she hadn’t started falling apart I think she had a chance of winning. She was one of my favorites.

  47. nathania says:


    I can’t reply above to your post for some reason but few people are more annoyed with the whole faux bi/lesbian thing than actual lesbians. It came from porn, and the heterosexual male mind…not from actual lesbians. To me putting on that persona is much in the same vein as getting breast implants, something women do to make themselves a more desirable partner to the person they are ‘marketing’ themselves to. It has very little to do with reality. It’s annoying to me that it’s used this way because of the real discrimination and harassment I have faced in my life, that fakers don’t know a thing about (and I am a lesbian whom everyone assumes is straight…even gay people don’t pick me up on their gaydar until I tell them, so I know what I have been through is miniscule compared to others). I just read over Lori’s facebook and myspace and it’s clear she and Danielle are friends and have a good relationship, which I believe has never been more than a friendship.

    • stanbo says:

      Great comments Nathania! I mean, if she is a lesbian or bisexual than more power to her, but I think we can almost agree that this “relationship” was a publicity hoax. I can belive a fellow gay would permit it to happen.

    • Buffywood says:

      I just will never understand the discrimation against gay people. If someone finds love in their life, it should matter who provides it, it should be envied.

      I had to chuckle just a little because off and on I’ve had the opposite issue, people assuming I was gay but am not. It started in college because I played Division I sports and of course so many people in this work think all women athletes are lesbians.

      Later in life I took in two friends (at seperate times) who had financial and relationship difficulties. The first was my friend who is a lesbian and that got people thinking. Two years later one of my best friend moved in with her two daughters. The youngest was in 1st grade at the time and when she returned to school and the kids were telling the class what they did that summer she announced that she “Has a girl daddy now”. She is now in 9th grade and I still tease her about that.

  48. Wendy says:

    Question. Who do you think will be more drunk on WWHL tonight? Mary from DC or Andy?

  49. Ellabean says:

    Just want to extend a very warm thank you for yesterday’s thread and the well wishes for my birthday (the 21st). I ‘ve been off and on the blog these last weeks and not a regular here – so I was quite taken aback by those that kindly remembered all those that had September birthdays. And there were many (which is no coincidence).

    And HB to the last of the fellow Virgos. Librans – you’re up next!

    Thanks again “Lynn Fam” (tm WSL)

  50. cusi77 says:

    To everyone in this forum:

    My hubby thinks you all are a bad influence on me…

    The reason is because I saw the most ugly shoes EVER and I said: “They are Fugly”

  51. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Wall st. Lady, I beg your pardon! These are Standing-there-looking-cute-shoes 😀

    • quincyil says:

      No sweetie, those are sitting on a couch, legs crossed in a glamorous poise shoes. The tv stars all have them. They are kicked off when the camera goes off.

  52. AZ Girl says:

    I watched Top Chef Just Desserts last night and I am having real problems with Seth. He broke down during the Quick fire. Not just sobbing but on the floor curled up in a ball sobbing. This man is crazy and got crazier in the elimination challenge. I don’t know how the other contestants are going to be able to concentrate on the competition. He is a total “loose cannon”.
    I noticed that Seth also has a really suspicious lump on the side of his neck. Does anyone know why that one girl has a bandage on her forehead?
    Looking forward to tonight’s HWODC. Wine is chilling and I am channeling Mary tonight.

    • SavingGrace says:

      I think artists are kinda over-the-top-drama.

      I agree when Seth said he looks like Dexter, the Showtime Serial Killer. His hysterics make me laugh.

      You know there is A LOT more drama to come and I don’t think Seth is the one drama queen there.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Seth is creepy – maybe he should date Kelly – he’s a chef not a cook!

      • SavingGrace says:

        Uh-Uh no way.

        Although they are well matched their serial killer qualities make them too dangerous to couple up….ha!

      • AZ Girl says:

        When they asked Seth at the judge’s table if he could control his behavior in the future his answer was “I can’t promise that” WTF? How about “I will try by best”.

        • SavingGrace says:

          I have a feeling Ms. Bensimon understand exactly what he meant.

          For example:

          Andy Cohen: Kelly, if I bring you back for RHONY for season 4, could you control your behavior in the future?

          Kelly: Ummm, like, I can’t promise that, like…

          Peas-in-a-pod, those two!

    • Waxdiva says:

      They are the oddest looking group of contestants… and the gayest show on TV. Seth is a total wackjob. He had a breakdown because he couldn’t find grapefruit juice behind the bar, only after sticking every bottle nozzle up his nose. I have to admit that I stole the description of JD from Andy Cohen… he’s the first to proclaim it the gayest show on TV and he should know.

      McHale now has a doll, an ugly one, but still a doll:

      McHale will be on Today with Hoda and KL tomorrow. Can’t wait for that train wreck.

      • SavingGrace says:

        The doll is too manish.

        It looks like a blonde version of Kelly “I’m a famous model that no one EVER heard of’ Bensimon.

        It should come with a jogging bra & short shorts. Once you wind up the doll it will run in the middle of traffic.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        When Seth’s roomie (Tim?) mentioned that he and Seth were both heterosexual males, I was like what? They’re the biggest drama queens/diva wannabees on the show!

        And Seth’s irrational, paranoid outbursts….if it’s just for the show it makes him look like a bizarre nutcase. If it’s real then he’s got issues…how would he function in the workplace?

  53. jean says:

    I think Jeff would do better to train Jett as his main assistant and let sarah help with Zoilas duties.

  54. quincyil says:

    Does anyone miss Ryan Brown? I thought he was a moderating voice in Jeff’s life. Jeff tends to jump off of bridges and then he wonders why is is wet after falling into the river. Jenny isn’t around enough to be his voice of reason. Jett seems to be astute when it comes to his crazy boss. I hope he doesn’t get in trouble for those comments.

    Jett would be perfect as a manager, if he turns out to be a paper pushing guy. It seems that you have to be a numbers person to take on Jenny’s job. Some men just can’t stand that paper work. Jett is a muscian and I hope this exposure is helping him become popular.

  55. dumberries says:

    Thanks for the great blog Had Enough. It was fun reading all the comments. I think if I had to choose between spending a day with any Bravo HW & family, spending a day with Rachel Zoe and her peeps, or spending a day with Jeff Lewis and his assembled little work family, I would pick Jeff’s crew hands down. Despite Jeff’s abrasive (and sometimes abusive demeanor), I think it would be the most real and least painful experience. And I might actually learn something. But, I just might pick a day with Kathy Griffin and her mom over the Jeff Lewis experience…

  56. cusi77 says:

    Before the RHWODC starts I would like to propose to everyone to go to our Lynn’s Blogspot and click, click and click in the adds ***Please***

  57. boston02127 says:

    Does Michaele Salahi have buck teeth or is it my imagination?

  58. boston02127 says:

    I don’t think I’m liking Stacie as much as I first thought I did. She says she was completely modified at the party. She started the whole thing then sat back and let them go at each other.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Do you mean mortified?

    • cusi77 says:

      Boston_ That is what is called “amarranabajas” in the underworld of cock fight… Is the one who puts razors in the cocks feets for them to fight!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Gotta agree about Stacie – how can anyone call themselves a “hostess” and allow one person go after another guest when they have asked them to stop? Erica is not doing well on her “audition as a housewife”….mean girl!

    • HD says:

      When you say “she” started the whole thing do you mean Stacie did? I kept trying to think did Stacie start it. Did she? I was sipping wine. LOL

      I am in complete agreement that Stacie should have spoke up. She is sitting there like a bump on a log! I wish someone would come in my house and try to clown my company. Not going to happen. Everything was fine until Erica opened her big mouth. Why is she even getting camera time? Hello!

      I have noticed on this show everyone seems very constricted in what they say as if they are afraid they will not be a part of the circle or something. Is DC really like that? I remember Lynda said (I think Lynda) “You can think it you just can’t say it.” I was thinking, shoot, I don’t need to live in DC then because I think it and I say it. I can’t pretend allllllllllllllllll the time.

  59. TEB says:

    Off Topic- Boston- I am a fine Irish Catholic who got a 4 leaf clover tattoo on my hip in college (many years ago..). I am neither embarassed nor proud of it. My 3yr old said to me the other week after seeing me without clothes “when I’m a Mommy, can I get a tree on my hip, too??” It made me kinda smile. When I see your shamrock– it makes me think of how proud I am to be Irish (even if it’s difficult to explain to a toddler). I told her when she is a Mommy- she can get a ‘tree’ if she wants to. God forbid.

    • Buffywood says:

      And I know how many years ago that was! How are you TEB?

      I too have a tattoo on my hip that my daughter saw when she was young. Mine is a little Grateful Dead dancing bear. Many years ago in the grocery store nice young man was in line behind us with a dancing bear on his shirt. My little talkative one told the guy that “My mommy has one of those right there” and unfortunately the aim of her pointing was a little too “centered” and he gave me the funniest look. I was mortified!

      • TEB says:

        BuffyWood- that is too flippin’ funny! Did you get yours at ODU too?? I went to Army/Navy Tattoo. I got it on May 5, 1993 (nothing like getting an Irish Tattoo on Cinco de Mayo, eh?)

        • Buffywood says:

          No, I got mine in NY just outside of Wildwood a few years after graduation. I should have been older and wiser but I wasn’t. I got mine the weekend Jerry Garcia died.

          • TEB says:

            I had a friend who had the same dancing bear tattoo (Amanda Barker). She drove a white jeep in college. She was a Midrise girl. Any connection? I love the preppy/deadhead combination you are!! 🙂

            • Buffywood says:

              She was probably at midrise the year after me. The only person I knew with a white jeep was this blonde surfer named Jerry. He lived on 42nd street and had a dalmation with one blue eye and one brown eye. Years later I got a dalmation just like his. Damn, the things you remember. I can’t remember any of my teachers names but I remember the hot guy with the cute dog!

              • TEB says:

                His name was Kurt and the dog was “Odie”. He was best friends with Jerry. I dated Kurt. I took care of Odie after college when he went on his skiing trips. Sound familiar?

        • Buffywood says:

          That should have said NJ.

          • TEB says:

            I was with a boyfriend from NJ at the time. He wanted me to put my name under the 4-leaf clover. I didn’t think a name in that location was necessary…..

    • boston02127 says:

      TEB-When I see a shamrock tattoo on someone I don’t know it usually makes me smile. I have a small Celtic design on the back of my neck that means inner strength. To this day I still hide if from my mother.

      • TEB says:

        @Boston- My Mother found out about my tattoo when we were at the beach and my 5yr old nephew said “Aunt T- you have seaweed on your bathingsuit” (it was the lucky clover). She was somewhat OK with it b/c she knew it could be ‘hidden’

      • Buffywood says:

        Boston, are you the one on the Med Spa industry or was that OneMoreinBoston? See, I can’t remember crap.

  60. Jeepers says:

    Well I came back to see if there were any good cat fights lurking
    on the pages. It was so boring and dull in here earlier that I left
    the premises…..LOL
    So whats up?………..Jeepers

  61. cusi77 says:

    I applaud Lynda in this one! “The world is full of ignorance and fear”
    I am openly pro equal marriage! Who would think Stacie is so judgemental!

  62. emt2 says:

    I’m disappointed by Stacie and Jason’s opinion about gay marriage.

    And of course, Andy is now of WWHL and he is drinking beer. Why is he such an alcoholic? Not cute. Loved how Jeff called Andy about being beat up by Teresa. lol

    Mary looks pretty on WWHL. I like the natural brown hair color and she doesn’t look like a puffy alcoholic.

    Andy just admitted that he fucked up when he thought that Jason was Ebong. lol

    Andy is annoying and gross but I like him when he is around intelligent people. He is not as swarmy and creepy.

    • nathania says:

      I howled when Jeff razzed him on that, it was hysterical. You are so right about Andy, he is a chameleon for sure, he just changes with his environment.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Jeff is so funny. He is really great calling Andy out on stuff. Mary looked the best she has so far last night.

  63. HD says:

    Hello, Everyone! I have missed you all so much! Trust that I have kept up with Lynn’s blog and just wrestled my fingertips when I felt like typing. I did talk to Lynn on Facebook and I am soooooooo glad to be back among the LOYAL I Hate Jill Zarin fans! And yes, I still do HATE Jill Zarin and that will never change.

    Now…can I toss in my two cents on the train wreck that I see we are calling the Salami’s? How stupid did Michaele look trying to do the cheer? It was obvious she was not a member of the Redskin cheerleading squad. What kind of sick individual pretends they were part of a national cheerleading squad? This woman has issues. And yes, you all will hate me but I can’t stop watching them! They fascinate me! I am so intrigued watching how they spin things and sneak into events. It is so compelling to me.

    On to the fight…Stacie should have spoke up! You don’t let your friend beat up on your guest. Hello! Erica is not even a damn housewife! Honey, you are an extra! Get out the spotlight, you stealin’ Cat’s shine! I have grown to like Cat. I like her “brashness” (for now at least).

    Mary is a lush. Enough said.

    I am thoroughly ticked that people like the Salihi’s can get a damn book deal but Michale wonders if it will involve writing? God help us all. I have been self publishing for YEARS and here these two lunatics get book deals tossed in their laps! Yes, I am whining. It is unfair! Uhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

    Gay marriage…should I even touch that? I think not. I think you all will cover that very well and I will keep my two cents to myself. I will say I have gay friends and family members and such is life. They stay out of my bedroom and I stay out of their’s.

    Anyways…glad to be back! I always loved Lynn, the blog and the amazing women on the site and of course the only hate I EVER had was for Jill! 🙂


    • boston02127 says:

      HD–Welcome back 🙂

    • cusi77 says:

      HD_ We miss you too! Welcomeback!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Good to hear from you!

      • HD says:

        Thank you, Cusi, WindyCity, TEB.

        I am glad to be back. I never strayed too far. This is the only place where you can speak your mind OPENLY and let the chips fall where they may in regards to the Housewives.

        I was sooooooooooo concerned that race and politics were going to rule the DC conversation. It didn’t. I jumped the gun in my thinking. Blame it on Hannity or O’Reilly. LOL! Kidding. I am glad the women here are open minded and open to discussion.

        Anyways…glad to be back. 🙂

    • Kat says:

      8) Welcome Back!

    • Noelle says:

      Amen HD!! ITA with you and shame on Stacie for not stepping up to the plate…You are the hostess after all!!
      I believe Erica is looking for a spot next season…she was out of line and should have been called out on it.
      Say something Stacie, anything…even if only make all your guest feel comfortable. Sorry..taken off guard, being caught by surprise is not a reason but a flimsy excuse. Bitch, please…!
      Mary..um..Mary, you here love? Put down the glass and pay attention. Good Grief.
      I need a new hobby. These HW shows are unnecessarily frying my brain!

      • HD says:

        Girl, Stacie sat there like she had molasses running through her viens. Scary bish! SPEAK UP! Erica was CLEARLY wrong. SMH! She is not even on the show! And that crazy apology! Help me please! Erica has worked my nerves!

        • vilzvet says:

          Welcome back, HD! Now after all these comments I am looking to watching the episode, had to hit a jewelry party last night, but it was actually nice stuff (lia sophia?) Thanks for the heads up on all the action.

  64. jean says:

    so if erica wins this poll we can be assured of bravos phony ass polls. dont waste ever again waste your time and money voting. they are bogus and phony/erica is another kim g wannbe bitch.

  65. boston02127 says:

    Does anyone know who Jeff is dating?

    • Noelle says:

      No, seems as though he’s still with the same person he was with when he appeared with Tamra on WWHL.
      That seems like that was some time ago…

  66. HD says:

    Tiffany deserved to win Fan Favorite. To me it was a given.

  67. TEB says:

    I have to get up early tomorrow. CRAP! I was just starting to have fun. Thanks for everything. I will see you all late tomorrow. (job, kids, etc).

  68. Olivia says:

    If they renew this DC franchise my head is going to hit the ceiling.

    There is no “there” there at all. Erika insulting Cat. Cat insulting Aunt Frances. Tears, hugs, phony apologies. Yuck!

    The Salahi’s are certifiable. Lynda a bore. And Stacie? She can kiss my butt while she is at it.

    These topical discussions have no place on a show that is as phony as this one. One minute they are discussing gay marriage, the next shaking pom poms over in left field. Please!

    And for the record, I am an Irish Catholic, liberal Democrat who voted for Obama (but who finds Oprah insufferable) and am the mother of a gay child. I stand pretty firm on equal rights for women and gays without exception.

    Does this information have any place on this blog? No. Nor does what they are purporting to discuss have any place on a show that is a manufactured piece of fluff. Aside from Bravo’s assertion that this is “cutting edge” it is nothing more than a grab for whatever ratings are left out there for another cookie cutter version of the same old, same old format.

    Mixing episodes of race and politics with scenes of involving a ghost written book that requires “no writing” is an insult.

    • HD says:

      It shows you how crazy it is when Mary says gay issues don’t really concern her but two of her “besties”, as she called them, are a gay married couple. How does that NOT involve you when you are so called best friends with two gay men?

      • Olivia says:

        These are the people who dress them, style their hair, fix their the make up and decorate their homes yet she makes a statement as stupid as this and we are to take them seriously?

        And just what the hell was the purpose of inviting Cat to that meeting with the councilman in the first place? She can’t even vote!

        Just an excuse to get these idiots into a room to have a “meaningful discussion” about a serious subject when the black voters are against it, another is a British subject, and one suggests that it has no meaning in her life so why bother.

        With Lynda being the only exception to this topic I am at a loss to explain why this was even featured. Amazing.

        • HD says:

          THANK YOU! Hello! There was nooooooo purpose of this meeting but to get this issue on TV with these women as if they are really going to be taken seriously! Give me a break!

          Stacie-ONCE AGAIN-kept her mouth shut for most of the meeting as if she has no brain. They live in DC which everyone knows has a HUGE gay population and you act like, “gay? What’s gay? Does that mean happy? Oh you mean gay as in a man/man, woman/woman? Ohhhhhhhh that kind of gay. Will someone pass the wine?”

        • nathania says:

          I love it that Lynda is a pro-gay marriage republican. I just love it. And that Stacie is apparently against gay marriage as a democrat. It just shows you can’t pigeonhole people.

          • Kat says:

            Individuals are one thing. But isn’t it part of the Republican Party platform to be anti marriage equality and anti gay period?
            I don’t want to ignite a fight over politics.
            Just making an abservation.

            • Kat says:


            • nathania says:

              Certainly more and more. But there is a difference between the fiscal conservatives (that used to define republicanism), which I suspect is what Lynda might call herself, and the religious conservatives that seem to have taken over that party. I probably shouldn’t say any more since the Republican party is not my area of expertise. There is a gay faction within the party called Log Cabin Republicans, who are long-standing, and god knows there are a great many gay republicans. I found it refreshing for Lynda to be so supportive and outspoken.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I was waiting for WWHL because DC is the dumbest version of the franchise…..the wives are boring, the situations are boring, the race and politics don’t add anything to this idiotic, insipid mess. IMO, Bravo really missed the mark with this location/cast. Is there really a reason to have a reunion?

      • boston02127 says:

        @WindyCityWondering–I totally agree.

      • Olivia says:

        There is really no reason to have this show.

        Mary and her unmotivated daughter are just another Jacqueline and Trashly. She quit her job minutes after she started working? What’s with that excuse?

        Kick her fat, lazy, wardrobe stealing butt to the curb and quit making your home a revolving door. She wants to pursue her interest in art as her future career? Good luck with that since the term “starving artist” carries a great deal of truth.

        There are millions of people out there who can’t find decent work because THERE ARE NO JOBS TO BE FOUND!, and this airhead walks away from one with her mother’s approval.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Because they assume that the Bravo paycheck will be there forever. Hey maybe there will be a spin-off, Real kids of DC…..Haaaaa! Right!

        • Noelle says:

          I agree and well said Olivia.
          I think her Dad brought up some very valid points, Of course Mary is off day dreaming..annoying as hell btw!

          Lolly reminded me of Assley too! Just shows ya, the apple doesn’t fall far from dumb-ass tree!! Will these mothers ever learn..life is not roses and cupcakes; quit enabling young adults..they’re learning no life skills. Hindering rather then helping!

          • nathania says:

            It was clear when Lolly was quoting the “Constitution”, otherwise known as the Declaration of Independence for those to whom something like that would matter, that there is competition there, just like there is competition between Ashley and Jacqueline. I find it a complete downer to recognize that dynamic because I have experienced it as a daughter and it is not fun.

    • nathania says:

      I like it.

      I like it way better than sociopathy as a way of life. I only see the Salahis as sociopaths here, whereas Jersey, I would call two out as definite and two with tendencies.

      It’s nice to hear people talk about something besides each other.

  69. Dawn says:

    Missy says she WAS a cheerleader

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yet she can not produce any “proof” of this claim…..

    • Noelle says:

      Cause she knew those cheerleading routines so well! Lmao!
      Is any one else watching (Salami’s) with a pillow over their face and feeling their awful shame!??! I am. To bad they don’t.

      • vilzvet says:

        If she wasn’t a cheerleader back in the 80s, why was she apparently recognized by many of the ladies who she grabbed in big hugs? Didn’t make sense to me…if she was recognized by them, then that would prove it right there. She did have two left feet though, LOL, didn’t she?

  70. Wallflower says:

    Here again after a long day (longer week). This is where I come to unwind. My mom suffers from Alzheimer’s and had a rapid decline over the last couple months. She’s in hospice now with only days to live. I know from a lot of the posts here that many others are caregivers and patients themselves. Thank you all for creating this wonderful place. I don’t usually post (just don’t have words left usually by the time I check in), but I’m here every day.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Wallflower ♥ My prayers are with you and your mom.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Wallflower – glad we can brighten your life alittle. You and yours are in my prayers. Hope you caught RCH’s blog today – you will laugh!

    • Sha2000 says:

      I’m sorry to hear about your mom Wallflower, stay strong.


      • Wallflower says:

        Thank you, Susan. So many mixed feelings–a month ago I would have said the end would be a relief. I wasn’t prepared for how hard it really is.

        • Sha2000 says:

          I’m sorry that she’s ill & that you are hurting, it is very hard, it’s called love & you are feeling it very very strongly now. As painful as it is, there is an exquisiteness in feeling love that intensely & I am 100% positive your mom feels all that love back from you. Hang in & just focus on the love between you.

        • lillybee says:

          My best wishes. I went through something like that when my mom passed. She didn’t even know me. It was tough.

    • cusi77 says:

      Wallflower_ Welcome dear. Thanks for posting.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      So sorry about your mother Wallflower. Words are inadequate so I’ll cyber hug you. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Wallflower!}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    • HD says:

      I am very sorry to hear about your mom, Wallflower. May God’s peace be with you during this time. HUGS!

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      My grandfather passed away from Alzheimer’s and I feel your pain. Know that you and your family are in my thoughts.

    • butterisafruit says:

      I’m so very sorry. This is the most difficult part of the journey. My heart goes out to you, it’s very hard to be in this place.

      I was my mom’s caregiver too, (pretty much alone), while she suffered Alzheimer/Dementia.

      I do hope she doesn’t have much pain, and please never second guess yourself. Everything you’ve done was the right thing to do.

      I wish I could hug you,
      Mary Ellen

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Bless you and hope you continue to stay strong.

      • Anniieee says:

        Wallflower…I am sending the angels and saints your way along with prayers. We will all hold you tight in our hearts as you continue on your difficult journey. God Bless you and your mom and my God ease your load with love from friends and family……Annie xoxox

    • cyotteeflower says:

      Wallflower I was care giver to a dear lady with this disease for 3 years and it is heartbreaking.
      BTW your name seems so familiar.I’m sure it will come to me.
      All the best!

    • Ellabean says:

      Thinking of you this morning , dear Wall flower.

  71. WindyCityWondering says:

    When Andy asked Jeff who his favorite housewives were and he said Tamra, Caroline and Dina……what???

    • Noelle says:

      Hi there WCW,
      I remember when Jeff appeared on WWHL with Tamra…they really seemed to hit it off, so I’m not surprised by that, but Caro and Claud?? Besides that, Claud is NOT a HW any longer…why must we suffer her bs still!?!
      *white flag* Enough Already!!!!! *sighs*

  72. jean says:

    fu jeff lewis, you chose tamra, the jealous real esate bitch of jeana and the jealous and whorey tailed bitch that was jealous of both vicki and gretchen and both dina and caroline the real housewives of mafia bitches over real housewives and real mothers ramona, sonya, betheny, alex, and stacie. fu you famewhoreman.

  73. jean says:

    wallflower, i was in the hospice systems 18 months ago with my now deceased husband, you are in my prayers. God be with you. I am praying for you, this will not be easy, but you are not alone, we are here for you, whenever you need us, let us know. we can get your email etc and be your support etc, whatever you need, let us know. a

  74. Olivia says:

    My take on the Salahi’s for whatever it is worth:

    Watching “chubby Tareq” these past few weeks I have come to the conclusion that he was a spoiled brat that none of the other kids liked. This fed his illusions of power so that when he got his grubby little hands all over the Oasis enterprise he was swept up in the headiness of ownership which caused him to run the company into the ground.

    He meets up with Barbie selling perfume at Nordstroms and she smells money and status. Keep in mind that he was 30 and she was 36 when they got married and not two young fools with their heads in the clouds. She must have sized up this loser, who more than likely did not attract women from the get go, and let him shower her with gifts and promises to keep her interest. A huge wedding in 2000 followed, replete with doves, and she must have felt she was on the road to riches. The reality was that with him at the helm of the business it began to take a slide.

    So armed with stories of money and power, he was able to keep his Barbie happy for awhile, afraid that should she learn the truth she would depart. However, she is canny enough to recognize that at 44 yrs of age the competition out there is huge and her quest to find a richer “manchild” was diminishing.

    So they play this game of “let’s pretend” almost convincing themselves that the only way forward is to play the game of make believe hoping it sticks and buying them time.

    It would seem at this juncture that all they have is each other and like it or not they are stuck with their choices for better or worse.

    • HD says:

      I had no clue that she was older. That blew my theory wide open. I thought she was younger and got caught up with a natural born idiot.

    • cusi77 says:

      Great perception Olivia, Thank you.

      • Olivia says:

        I was surprised to find out he was only 38 since he looks a good 10 yrs older.

        Their constant lying is really troubling though. So easy to refute yet they continue at a rate that would make a 3 yr old look like an amateur. It is one thing when one spouse happens to stretch the truth but when two are in collusion you have to wonder about the pathology.

        And she herself admitted to her age in a talking head segment.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      You know, what is amazing is that they found a venue to display their insanity for all the world to see. What is it about our society now that instead of locking up the nutballs, they are put on display and applauded?

      • Olivia says:

        Or run them for political office.

        • HD says:

          The funny thing, for me, is that I am intrigued by their lying. I just cannot believe they lie so much which makes me want to watch them. They manage to get into EVERYTHING with a few bottles of wine, a wife dressed in tight clothes and a few smiles. It baffles me which makes me want to watch. I need help!

          • Olivia says:

            You are not alone.

            But I honestly think that friend of Stacie’s is a piece of work.

            You can’t sit around all evening and call somebody “mean girl” without expecting a negative reaction. Someone calling another woman “mean girl” is one herself as she condescendingly tries to get in Cat’s face one more time to make her point.

            So Cat dislikes Tyra. Who gives a rat’s patootie? Cat can be a pain but they were in someone else’s home as guests so some measure of civility should have been on display.

            She baited Cat which was what she had intended from the outset.

            • HD says:

              Erica was wrong. Period. She wanted to pull out some drama over a boring night, well she did. Perhaps she is jockeying for an official housewife position. Drink your damn wine and shut up.

              • quincyil says:

                I like Erica. Cat was judging Mary and Lolly. Erica noticed that and made the mean girl comment. While Cat was saying those things, mean girl came to my mind. Mary wasn’t making statements about Cat’s parenting skills or the Cat’s girls.

                Also, why did they make a big deal about the meal girl comment and the girls. They girls were in the kitchen eating ice cream. These are close friends who speak their minds every single day. They were in a close group. Lynda went right after Erica as being judgmental, but I see that Lynda is very judgmental and speaks her mind in dinner parties and public events.

                I think Erica is a proud black woman with an education and a strong personality. I like her.

              • nathania says:

                LOL, I am wondering if “Kim G” is going to become a part of proper Housewives lingo, as in “she’s pulling a Kim G”

          • cusi77 says:

            I agree with you HD. Keeps me intrigued… like watching a kleptomaniac grabbing something… how in heavens they are going to walk from this lie?

            • HD says:

              Girl, Cusi, I can’t stop watching them. AND I WANT TO!! But I can’t!!! I just cannot believe they lie to so much. And it makes the show interesting. Sorry. It does. It is crazy to watch them lie in a way that I have never seen lying done. LOL!

    • Waxdiva says:

      He’s 41 and she is 44. She did not want to marry him. Anthony Kennedy was joking that he was going to put out warrants for their arrest if they didn’t quit delaying the marriage.

  75. jean says:

    seems to like there is more of a story right here on this blog of Real Housewives, that deal with working a 9-5 job with kids and husband and ailing parents etc, but that is not exciting without the yelling and spending and trashing others reputations. that is too bad because that is the real reality of todays housewives and they dont want to show that.

    • Sha2000 says:

      A true reality show showing a mom taking care of a house & family day in & day out could scare the $h1t out of many; not suited for Bravo, maybe the horror channel? Hey there’s Susan cleaning the litter pan, the horror…lol!

    • Jeepers says:

      See this why the real housewives of our country turn to
      these shows, because we fon’t want to be reminded of our
      own day to day life. We seek to find some things we only
      dare to dream of. It is our escape system so to speak.
      Even tho it is only for an hour or more, it is a place we all
      need to go to once in awhile……………………………Jeepers

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Jeepers, it’s why I tuned in but wow what a horror show it turned out to be. Too bad it’s impossible to show a reality show of women with real class plus money. They wouldn’t be caught dead on one. Or, if there is one let me know and I’ll be released.

  76. cusi77 says:

    Micaela (or whatever her name is) is getting her nose bigger and bigger and it is not the pinocchio syndrome… she keeps loosing weight!

  77. Cheri says:

    I’m watching Watch what happens now (I’m in Washington state) and this is real stupid but does anyone besides me think that Andy has the longest fingers in the world.

  78. Did anyone notice WWHL now has a disclaimer under the call-in number that requires callers to be OVER 21? I wonder if one if Andy’s more popular callers and recent guests prompted this change?

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      No, but I bet Ben Weiner’s mom is pissed.

    • Adgirl says:

      Wow. I can understand being over 18, but 21? I wondered about the text and phone bills for the under 18 yr olds whose parents are probably paying for them.

    • Noelle says:

      Happy Birthday!!! 😀 😀

      I have 2 mins before midnight!!!!

      • Noelle says:


        Whew!! *wipes sweat off brow* Made it just in time..YAY!! 🙂
        Hope you had an awesome day, your in good company, my hubby and bf’s bday was today also! You must be amazing!! xx

  79. Zipit Zarin says:

    Sha2000, who was asked to use horticulture in a sentence to which she immediately replied “You can lead a horticulture, but you can’t make her think. ” ?

  80. jean says:

    watching hoarding kind of makes me feel better, because while i am not a hoarder, i am in a depression syndrom, not as bad as a year ago, but still a depression. i clean etc but vitually do not much other than have (outside-PAID) yard work done, clean and take the garbage to the road etc and cook for myself, my dog and either cook or buy food to take to my mothers house. I know i could and should be doing much more and hopefully i can eventually wake up and do that because i can and i should. i was a workaholic but after my catastrophe in 2008 when my husband was diagnosed with stage4 cancer, i emergency early 58 yrs old retired but was still active until i had my heart attack and bypass surgery and came home and he died 4 days later. all this happened within 2 month. i guess i lost hope. i know i will eventually get my self back cause i know i still have a lot to give.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Holy shitballs jean! You are one strong woman! YOU should be celebrated, not these nimrods we watch!

    • Noelle says:

      I adore you jean and totally feel for you. My heart goes out to you.

      Are you seeing a professional for your depression? (Not my intention to intrude and I apologize if you feel so..) I only ask because you’ve dealt with so much in such a short period of time, it would be be truly hard for anyone to deal with what you’ve gone through.

    • Ellabean says:

      Thinking of you Jean. Hugs go out to you. Stay with this group of wonderful people on this blog. It’s a Cheers Bar and the door is always open for you.

  81. Adgirl says:

    The Sa;ahi’s at the writers house.
    Did anyone else notice they were having drinks and snacks. The men had beer. Michaele had a huge glass of water. There was a second huge glass of water between Tareq and Michaele which he moved closer to her. The very next shot the table is full of food. Michaele has what looks like a lettuce leaf inon her plate and glass of red wine.
    Again everyone. She does not have an eating disorder.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      If I had to turn over and see him in the bed I’d be starving myself to death too.

    • quincyil says:

      She is so thin. I wonder if the anesthesia during breast implant surgery affects people with MS. I am going to ask my daughter. You’d think you would have to be very careful not to rock the boat if you have this disease.

      • 2Stupid says:

        My mom has had MS for 39 years. A couple of years ago she fell and I took her to the emergency room. They wanted to do surgery right then. I said Ineeded to speak with her neurologist. They kind of balked and I took her home against their recommendation. When I spoke with her neurolagist he said had they done the surgery, it could have done irrepairable damage. She had to have an MRI first to see if her MS was active, and I believe that anasthesia is very dangerous. Her neruologist was (killed by a drunk drive a while back, don’t get me started!) one of the leading MS researchers in the country. My mom is like a medical marvel that she is still able to walk. IMO Michaela does not suffer from MS.

      • Waxdiva says:

        Do you really believe that she has MS?

  82. Adgirl says:

    The all star cast list:
    Elia Aboumrad; Season two, final four
    – Stephen Asprinio; Season one, top five
    – Richard Blais; Season four finalist
    – Jennifer Carroll; Season six, final four
    – Tiffany Derry; Season seven, top five
    – Tiffani Faison; Season one finalist
    – Carla Hall; Season five finalist
    – Mike Isabella; Season six, top seven
    – Jamie Lauren; Season five, top seven
    – Dale Levitski; Season three finalist
    – Antonia Lofaso; Season four, final four
    – Spike Mendelsohn; Season four, top five
    – Angelo Sosa; Season seven finalist
    – Dale Talde; Season four, top six
    – Casey Thompson; Season three finalist and fan favorite
    – Marcel Vigneron; Season two finalist
    – Fabio Viviani; Season five final four and fan favorite
    – Tre Wilcox; Season three, top eight

    Anthony Bourdain will be guest judging and Eric Rupert will not.
    And if any says Eric and Anthony are enemies, nemesis or hate each other is just wrong!!! They are very close friends. They go on speaking tours together.

    Go Casey!!!!!

  83. jean says:

    i have always thought myself to have had a very lucky and charmed and God blessed life. it hasnt been so wonderful the past year or so but I still have lots to be thankful for and if needed for anyone here on this site, I would make myself available for moral and spiritually support whenever you need it . Maybe that it Gods will for me and I am here ready and willing.

    • Noelle says:

      Again..you’re a real life angel…
      (Left you msgs up thread)
      Peace to you.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      jean, I saw the most awesome “cartoon” one time. It was of these people carrying their crosses and everyone was complaining to Jesus how heavy they were and finally begging Him to lighten their loads. So, one by one Jesus would chop off a part of their crosses. Except one. One person resisted complaining and kept carrying it as is. Eventually they all came to a huge chasm they had to get over where they could join with all these people who had finished the marathon and were celebrating. The one person who’s cross wasn’t shortened was able to lay it down across the chasm, walk over on it and join in. The others were stuck on the other side wishing they had carried that cross “fully loaded”.

  84. cheekybrit says:

    check me out cheekywithacupoftea.blogspot.com/

  85. Kat says:

    I hope to see OneMoreInBoston and Katie posts soon. Missed them today.

  86. jean says:

    thanks be to my Lord, God that i found this site. You all help me so much in your support that you will never know. Its been a hard year, but I see people here that may be helped me and all of you all. that I see a hope that wasnt there before. Who would have ever have known before I hate Jill Zarin about these folks out there and we could help them and ourselves as well?. .

  87. lillybee says:

    Project Runway. The wrench Gretchen thinks she owns the color burgundy. She was bitchy when Mike C. used it in his work.

  88. Zipit Zarin says:

    Does anyone besides me think of the British comedy show Absolutely Fabulous when you watch RZ etc?

    • Noelle says:

      Great call!! Perfect..LMFAO!! HEE-HEE!!

    • nathania says:

      This is why I can’t not like Cat on RHODC, every time she talks I hear Patsy. It brings back great memories, I almost wish she would drink more and stumble around a bit.

      • quincyil says:

        Mary really slammed her long term friend, Ericka, over the Cat is mean girl comment. I think Cat is mean too. What Americans are supposed to become the fans of Cat? The housewives in spandex carrying bags of dog poo in front of Cat’s lovely, yellow, rented house in Chevy Chase?

        The truth is Cat is an adultress who didn’t care about the hard working father of her two daughters. She is the complaining wife of a second husband who had a career that required long periods of travel and she knew that before marriage.

        Many of us are married to hard working men and women who have committments of their time. Yesterday, a number of our members mentioned that issue and they have adapted. Cat demands constant attention. Again, we find a woman using her young daughters as a shield for her own behaviors.

        I hope that some of our researchers tell us the number of books sold by Cat because few Americans care if she kissed the second prince or not. I’d rather have Erica become one of the DC Housewives. Erica is American.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          I agree! I thought her anger at her fellow neighborhood housewives was misplaced. Be angry at your husband. Would she have preferred they not curb their dog, must be a british thing, leaving plops of sh*t everywhere, as they wore Burberry outfits at the break of dawn? She is a bore! And a boar! lol

        • nathania says:

          I wouldn’t mind Erika being on there either. I disliked Cat at first because of her reaction to Erika’s refusal to toast that assinine ‘soul sister’ business Lynda was talking about and her comment about it. I thought Erika was right on cue about that and I was surprised Cat didn’t ‘get it’. I didn’t know about the ‘adultress’ part…that is a rather archaic term but statistically it applies to a great many people. I do not find her a ‘mean’ person, but an incredibly frank person, now that I understand a little more about where she is coming from. I love her humor, I ‘got’ her housewives comment, it would make me crazy too. She is so out of her element, not just in the U.S. but in the south where people are schooled in behaviors diametrically opposed to her personality. Apparently she has some bad press in the U.K, along the lines of Michaele Salahi here, but she may become the Bethenny of this show, if people are willing to decipher her not always easy to understand accent. It’s actually refreshing on a show where the only other straight shooter is Stacie, because Mary and Lynda are too busy being southern belles and Michaele is trying to keep all her lies straight.

          I assume when I watch these shows that the women are going to be rich and some degree of spoiled. It’s a given.

  89. jean says:

    I am so thankful to have found this site. Although I hate Jill Zarin, I have found a true blessing here in these people that are real and true, authentic , awesome and some that are truly in need of our help and support in their REAL lives. God Bless you all and never be afraid to express yours hardships, feelings or needs to this Band of Brother angels here.

  90. jean says:

    thanks for all concerned about me. I cant communicate that well regarding replies on this post. My son is a whiz on internet, me not much. thanks again. I have had a rough year, but some of you all have as well, be it lay offs, deaths, family sicknesses etc, Thanks for your love and support and I am here for everyone else as well. At least praise our Lord, we are not Jill, Kelly, Teresa, Dina, or Caroline. Thank you Jesus.

    • lillybee says:

      So true, but as a wise person once said “What doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger”. My best wishes for you and may the future be brighter for you.

    • myname2use4now says:

      Sending good vibrations of love, peace, and good health to you Jean. And yes, praise the Lord indeed that we are not like those spoiled names you mentioned. 🙂

    • Wallflower says:

      Jean, thank you so much for your kind words. You are in my thoughts and prayers as well. Hugs.

  91. Kat says:

    Wall St Lady are you around?

    • Kat says:

      Charles is a looker but you have him beat.
      I stumbled across the information as I am not astute enough to figure out your clues. (If I’m right at all.)
      😉 😀 😉

      • Noelle says:

        I’m also scouring from clues given..but feel maybe…
        I’ve got it narrowed down to 5…think I know but would never say/post without knowing fer sure and w/o WSL’s consent. Still even with her consent, wouldn’t post it…not for me to do.

        She shouldn’t either.( I don’t want to take away the fact that she’s a honest, caring and loving person.) It’s good business.

  92. Noelle says:

    I would just like to state that I don’t hate Jill Zarin, don’t know her personally but by her own actions (her press puppies and behaviour on the show) I despise her. She’s not clever or cute (by any means)and she’s her own worst enemy. She brings heartache and turmoil upon herself..rightfully so, IMO.
    Her need to be famous or noticed is so apparent that quite frankly is beyond uncomfortable for me to watch….pathetic actually…and then some.
    Jill is missing a huge something from her life and acting out because of it.
    JMO, Jill will always be miserable.

  93. Noelle says:

    Where is WSL?
    She usually peeks in by now.

  94. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Wallflower, do I know you from somewhere? You look familiar…

    • Noelle says:

      Put away those (pic SHOES!!..girlfriend.. *sniff* SHOWOFF!! )
      I love u Diva!!

      Wallflower has been posting…so nice to see her back! She used to post here all the time and then left…(now back)she has a really sad story and that’s a shame.
      Um sayy whatt??
      Is this the same Walfl over @RT floating a boat.!??

      FYI: playing both sides against the middle is always a bad idea!

      • Wallflower says:

        Not sure what Wallflower you’re referring to. I’m a long-time lurker (from Hubpages) but have only posted a couple times. I’m here daily reading, but that’s about it. I enjoy the blogs and comments and community. If there is/was someone else using Wallflower as a name, I didn’t see those posts.

      • TrueLifeDiva says:

        Who’s playing both sides? I’m confuzzled 🙂 .
        Ha, I wore those shoes just for you sweetie pop. You said something last week that made me grab my phone and snap a pic right there on the spot. Something about sparkly or glittery shoes and I just happened to be wearing some!

    • Wallflower says:

      I don’t think so. I don’t post anywhere else. If there’s another Wallflower out there with a bad rap, let me know…I can change my name on here.

  95. quincyil says:


    Apparently, the Sahlahis Charity isn’t registered and there is an investigation.


    All of the companies who donated to the charities and took deductions may have a problem with their taxes now.

    When the Salahis were with the state representative, they said that the country was restricting the vineyards from evening events. I wonder why. In Napa and Sonoma, many family run vineyards host weddings and rehersal dinners. I have been there for conference events also. Perhaps, the litagation and complaints of unfair charges on credit cards of the people who had events at Oasis Vineyard might have lead to the county’s restrictions.

    In my opinion, the Salahis seem to play fast and loose with everything they touch. I would never believe on statement that they make. I can’t imagine buying their book.
    I’d like to buy the book of the southern author who interviewed them and wanted to give his own interpretation of what was going on rather than become their ghost writer.

  96. Had Enough! says:

    Well. Finally caught up and first I have to say:

    Mary. Pills and booze do not mix. At Stacie’s house, she was sinking into the couch and couldn’t even hold her head up. She was half out of it, eyes looking at the ceiling, barely listening. She looked like a rag doll.

    Then again, in that situation, I’d want to be wasted, too.

    Now I am astonished that no one else has said it so I will. FU STACIE. It was not too long ago that people said, “Marriage is between one WHITE man and one WHITE woman (or one black man and one black woman, etc.)” Mixed race marriages were illegal. It wasn’t under 1967 that the Supreme Court invalidated Virginia’s anti-miscegenation law. Had it not been for these laws, and the associated stigma, maybe Stacie’s biological parents could have married and kept her. I am so so angry at her, angry and shocked that an intelligent, well-educated woman with her personal history could take this position. And you know what? If Jason’s religion is so bigoted, then Jason needs to get a new religion.

    • Kat says:

      Thank you.

    • Noelle says:

      @Had Enough,
      Amen! Your moniker describes my thoughts today.
      I’m so annoyed with DC show; where do I begin…!?!
      Thanks for putting words to my thoughts, far better then I could.

    • quincyil says:

      I believe in live and let live. Let Gays be married and raise children.

      That said, you heard Stacy. Their minister has taught her that marriage is between a man and woman. That’s her problem. She was raised in that religion.

      There will be change and acceptance in the next generation. Stacy seemed to be thinking about this herself. Her first statement was dogmatic and later reflective. She is going to come around.

      • Olivia says:

        This scene was so transparent as to be comical.

        Dragging these people into the office of a DC councilman in order to make it appear that they are at the right hand of the “movers and shakers” in that city just proves how desperate Bravo is in attempting to add relevance with this group.

        Do I care who they vote for or where they stand on political issues? No. These are people who go around “cleansing” their homes from evil spirits, have locks installed on their closets doors, pretend to be something they aren’t but are filmed sitting around discussing an issue that has no place on a program that is as staged and phony as this one.

        It still stumps me as to why Cat was even at that meeting when she is not even eligible to vote in the first place. It is insulting to the audience and the issues they pretend to discuss.

        They must have run out of topics surrounding the latest Salahi dust ups that they had to settle for this manufactured scene in order to impress the audience that they are critical thinkers and not the airhead squad that is the norm on this show.

        • Had Enough! says:

          And of course Mary can’t vote in DC. I was appalled when she didn’t know who David Catania is. Doesn’t she read the Washington Post? Watch the news on TV? Ignoramus.

          • Olivia says:

            I am holding out until I know where Jill Zarin stands on equality and where Caroline comes down on the passage of TARP.

            A scene with Teresa discussing the tax codes might be illuminating and I am hoping Danielle weighs in on DADT.

            Naturally these scenes will be interspersed with shots of dog poop, screaming matches, swollen chuckies, and underarm liposuction which always adds “weight” to any political discussion delivered by a bunch of Know Nothings from the front row of a fashion show.

        • butterisafruit says:

          Airhead Squad…LMAO!!

      • nathania says:

        Yeah, I got that she does have some reflection going on about this. It’s hurtful but I understand the dynamic in the south and the fact is that during the times of slavery and later into segregation the only sanctuary black americans had was the church, that was it, it was *the* civic institution, the all-in-one, the everything. And it still wields a very powerful influence today on black southerners. I guess that’s how jaded I am, having lived in four southern states, that this really doesn’t surprise me all that much. Stacie has a thinking mind, it’s not something that seems to have stopped taking in new information at the age of 16 or 18 and been sitting there getting moldy every since like many of the housewives’ brains have, which is encouraging.

    • Ellabean says:

      Amen !

    • AZ Girl says:

      Well said Had Enough! Anyone who has a family member who is gay only wants happiness for that person. If they find a partner, fall in love, why should they not get the same benefit as heterosexual couples?

  97. LynnNChicago says:


    Just posted new (OLD) blog from April 25, 2010 with comments.

    Thanks for all of your ad clicks, you guys are the best! Cuzi, thanks for the reminders, love you!!!***

    New RHODC Blog soon!

  98. Wall St Lady says:

    I am here but I always read everything I missed b4 I type. I don’t want to run my mouth till I understand what is going on w/the LynnFam. U know I use a tiny key pad on my BB. Since I read about Jean I haveent been able to stop my tears & I couldn’t see to type. Them when I reas the hugs given. I burst into tears. $hit a big drop of $not just dropped on my pad. feeling so bad for jean
    Not going to sp check. I want to join my LynnFam

  99. Wall St Lady says:

    Is every body waiting for the new blog ?

    Jeepers(Creepers). I think u r the oldest on this blog & I wanted to know how & when u got online ?

    I have had a computer on my desk since 1987. Until 5 yrs. ago my assistants did everything including email. My learning disability & the larger keypad just overwhelmed me.
    Has everybody gone to work ?

    • Kat says:

      May I guess your initials? Or is that too much info?

    • Noelle says:

      Good morning WSL,
      I’m working @home and it feels good.
      We were wondering about you last night…if you’d pop in and post…it’s up thread if you want to read….
      How are you love? The weather’s beautiful today. Spring is my favorite season of the year…Perhaps that’s why I’m so enjoying this beauty of a morn…it reminds me of spring. xoxo 😀

  100. Wall St Lady says:

    My first name is a double name but I am called by my middle name. I said B4 that I have 8 letters that r the same. My first name is the most common female name in the world.

    I wrote 2 posts yesterday at the end of the blog that I wish u would read. Tell me if u did.

  101. Sha2000 says:

    Watched WWHL late last night….I thought Jeff Lewis was hysterical!

    • Noelle says:

      I adore Jeff..quirks/faults and all! He reminds me of a person dear to me..looks, mannerisms, and all.
      I think Jeff has a heart of gold..with huge issues!! lol

  102. WindyCityWondering says:

    Morning to all and it is Friday on top of that!
    Why did Bravo take a dynamic city like DC and fill the housewife palette with boring, uninformed (thinking about the conversation between Mary and Lolly about gays/marriage/civil rights) women who have little to no manners or hostessing skills?
    There is not a single DCwife that I truly like! That said, Lynda is growing on me somewhat but the others just keep trying to make their silliness relevent.

    • Kat says:

      I’ve watched 1 episode.
      I think Mary’s closet is a pharmacy/liquor cabinet.
      I could like Cat from the little I’ve seen.
      But I don’t care to watch.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Lolly did cite our inalienable rights : ) , so I give her credit there. Someone here compared her to Ashley; I disagree. She seems respectful to her mom & I doubt Ashley could recall Declaration of Independence.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Right but she said it was in the Constitution and it isn’t. The phrases “inalienable rights” and “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” are in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. So Lolly’s grade school diploma was just revoked. Sheesh. She lives about 10 miles from the freaking original. Take your unemployed lazy ass to the archives and go read it. Or google it.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I was shocked a housewives offspring knew them! I was so ready to write her off as a sticky fingered, lazy twit, but now I see her as that and a proponent of human rights w/ a history minor! LOL

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          buzzwords! Lolly spouted them and Mary tried to follow along…..sadly trying to be topical? patriotic? relevent?

    • Had Enough! says:

      Because no one with a brain would willingly participate in a program that makes them look so awful and ridiculous. Why Stacie Turner is doing it is beyond me. I guess that a Harvard degree doesn’t imply that you have an ounce of common sense.

  103. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    A source/Danielle claims that networks are fighting over Danielle’s new spin-off. I don’t believe it!


    • Sha2000 says:

      I doubt it too. Every web site I’ve been to that has a poll that asks “will you watch?” has an overwhelming majority answering no. Anyone here interested in watching? For me my vote is no.

      • I won’t watch it, but I guess Danielle is determined to be in show-biz?
        Really when you think about it, besides prostitution, and maybe she wants to retire from that, what is she qualified for?

        • The only show about Danielle that I would watch, is the one where they find a cure for pathological liars.
          That would be interesting to me. If she found some kind of therapy that worked for that & she came back & showed how to do that.
          The entire re-union episode was wasted on the Housewives trying to catch Danielle in her lies. That just doesn’t work & it was frustrating to watch them waste their time on it. I’d like to see some way to really solve that problem.

          • Kat says:

            I think the cure is to remove the tongue and lop off the fingers. Not sure what century, but I think someone somewhere tried that.

          • nathania says:

            Teresa is far more scary than Danielle, who has shown some authentic remorse and made a few apologies. The part of the reunion where Danielle is shown that ridiculous text, doesn’t remember to responding to it, but apologizes on the spot to Jacqueline if indeed she did reply to that, is pretty telling. She is not utterly devoid of conscience like Teresa, or Caroline (who tells smaller white lies almost constantly…her fake breasts were ‘from God’, her portion control, ie. bariatric surgery, is responsible for her weight loss, and the whole spiel about Albie’s law school expulsion was apparently a very edited version of the truth) or Dina, who seems to have left that show for completely different reasons that she allowed it to be portrayed. Teresa of course lies to the public, the courts, the IRS, and anyone in earshot, without ceasing, as a way of life, never shows remorse, never apologizes, and doesn’t even seem to understand the concept of right and wrong.

            The reason the focus was on Danielle in that reunion was because Andy allowed that storyline to go down that path, none of those women sitting on those couches are any better or worse than Danielle, I blame Bravo for that and it’s insulting to Bravo viewers that was allowed to continue, because it implies none of us can think for ourselves. Danielle is so histrionic that she is completely exhausting to watch…there is this weird prejudice in culture about displays of emotion unless it’s anger, which is for some reason okay as long as it is at a safe distance. The other women understood ‘image’ and keeping their cool, but that doesn’t make them any more honest.

  104. To the person upthread who asked for info. on how Cat’s book is selling-it isn’t!. I wrote a post on my blog about it, http://njhousewives.blogspot.com/2010/09/maybe-being-housewife-isnt-such-good.html
    I was looking for info. about her book last week or so, and apparently there is some problem with the book. I’m only guessing that changing her last name has something to do with it-but that’s all I’ve been able to find about it so far.
    I thought it was pretty funny that Cat had a similar sub-title to the party-crashers, these Housewives really like to “borrow” from each other.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Does anyone have any desire to read the offerings of these two “authors”? What next? Mary writes a travelog for her sacred closet??

      • Olivia says:

        I would pay big bucks for an expose of Bravo and the Housewives franchise.

        Knowing that most of this stuff is scripted, edited, directed, and performed, I would gladly pay to see just how they go about convincing these women to behave like total idiots and “act” a part that will make them into “stars”.

        But I have a hunch none of this will occur until after these shows are formally plucked from the line up.

        The worst thing about these “reality shows” is that real writers have been pushed from the marketplace in lieu of these crapfests because they are cheaper to produce.

        So as long as Jill and Teresa agree to appear in the roles of buffoons those trained and talented writers can remain on the unemployment line so Ginger can get her lambchops.

        • Me too-maybe someone will decide that the fines & lawsuits for breaking the contract are worth gambling-on?
          (for any grammar police-sorry about ending sentences with a preposition today, I am too lazy not to)

        • nathania says:

          I don’t think they have to twist anyone’s arm. I don’t see anyone having to prompt Teresa Giudice or Jill Zarin to act like an @sshole. I think it is a heretofore unmined natural pool of talent that Andy Cohen is exploiting. I have known people like this all my life…I have one ex-Sister in Law and one current Sister in Law that would fit right in on any one of these shows, thrive on the attention, and have no shame whatsoever about their sociopathic behavior.

      • quincyil says:

        Shhhhhhh… You will give Dina an idea.

  105. JEAN-If you’re still here, I just want to let you know that your post may have helped someone. My neighbor just became a widow. I was more worried about her children, but I visited her yesterday & she seemed really “lost”. She’s a really strong person, so I’m assuming that she’ll bounce back and get through the grieving.
    Since I read your post, I’m going to make an extra effort to check-in with her. I would hate to see someone get lost in that place and get stuck there.
    Even though my future-ex is still alive, sometimes it feels like he died, but I know its not the same thing. I actually lost my husband to grieving, he couldn’t recover from losing family members & friends & I lost him.

    • Noelle says:

      Bless you sweets.
      I made my first trip out of the house(seems like ages) in 6 mos, to grocery shop. I’m bald and bloated(if I’m so sick, I SHOULD be thin!!…who did I piss off in a former life?! lol)
      I wear hats (always loved them!)even in the house. I’m still not comfortable in front of my own family with my illness and the connotations tied to it. ( I used to be real lovely.)Not so much now.
      Sorry to go off..back to store, A lovely eccentric older lady took to me as well as a 7yr old boy. I swear if I had to bend/reach for something…both were right there, acting nonchalant as ever. There were only a few people in the store…I thought I would see them @check-out. During small talk with the cashier, he stated I was the only person shopping for groceries..Ummm say whattt??..
      I cried when I went to my car…Angels exist, IMHO!
      Good for you to take an active role with your neighbor and God Bless!

  106. Noreen says:


    I have not been keeping up on Lynn’s blogs (my deepest apologies) but I did have to write in and say that I love Bethenny’s Blue Fly commerical that I saw during Project Runway. It is adorable and she is great. And the best part, it must be driving Kiki crazy. I’m sorry if you discussed this prior, but I just had to add my two cents.


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Did you also catch Johnny Weir’s Blue Fly commercial? Bethenny was so Bethenny and she is like the friend you only see once in awhile and fall right back into the fun!

      • The Buzz says:

        You are so right – there are many kinds of losses. My husband died of cancer in 10/06 and that was awful, but the years of caregiving before he succumbed to the disease presented their own unique loss – the loss of life as I had known it. When a spouse dies it is devastating, but I was able to deal with grief and eventually move forward. Caregiving, for me, was the most difficult time life has thrown at me. I wanted that part of my life to cease, but that would mean my beloved husband would have to die, then I would feel guilty and selfish about wanting the caregiving period to be over. Add to that the total exhaustion, sleep deprivation, etc so that the stress becomes unbearable.
        Through the three years I spent in that place I had the support and help of a wonderful close family. All I could think about sometiimes was the folks who were doing what I was doing with no support or assistance.

  107. Wall St Lady says:

    What crackpot would pay for a picture of the Salami grifters ?
    This may b good because when they have NO buyers maybe they may have a remote clue that they r considered reality scum not reality stars. But I doubt it. They will just think that since the economy is so bad they will have to wait for Christmas.

  108. Olivia says:

    I have a friend whose daughter is employed as a “stylist” in NYC. This means she helps the “star” choose an outfit for the scene they are filming.

    Home for a few weeks this summer, she commented on how she was involved in assisting Ramona in choosing an outfit for a scene she was doing in a restaurant with her friend Joni where she cried in relating the death of her father over lunch. This was during her “renewal phase”.

    Anyway, she said that the scene was shot and reshot several times before the director was satisfied. In other words, this scene was not filled with the “spontaneity” we are led to believe. She said they had trouble with the sound, the lighting, the passersby in the restaurant that interrupted the scene that had to be reshot several times.

    She said the amusing part was Joni trying to “maintain” her interest in what Ramona was saying as the director kept stopping the action for a better shot and they had to start all over again.

    She also mentioned that she had worked with the NJ wives and that Danielle was very nice to all the stylists, makeup people, and hair dressers. No diva attitude at all.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      So going with the scenes are shot and reshot – how can Jill blame last year’s bad behavior on editing? Gotta say it -I still HATE Jill!

    • nathania says:

      that is awful to think about…it’s one thing if it’s a regular lunch but something as intense a topic as the death of a parent to have to shoot over and over is just ridiculous.

  109. butterisafruit says:

    I hope this isn’t too long…skip if I’m boring you..tis okay.

    I confess. We “saged” my garage. If you want a good housewife show
    bring the cameras to my street. Last winter, which was cold, gray and crappy,
    Thank you Massachusetts.
    I was taking Chantrix, of course my brain went loopy.
    Here is where I have to tell you for three years I’ve been taking care of my
    husband who’s had 3 serious strokes. And the day can really wear on you when
    you’re down in the woods with no outside contact
    I felt alone and forgotten for months.
    So one Sat morning while it was colder than a witch’s ^%$#, I texted my neighbor.
    Told her I’m sick of it and we NEED to get together. That day turned into so much
    fun. She brought a few other neighbors who also were SICK OF IT.
    She also brought wine, beer and tons of munchies.
    Meanwhile the garage doors kept going up and down on their own. It had to be
    4 times. We already had the codes changed numerous times.
    Well we have such a blend of women on my street, they’re all wonderful and
    have problems like us all. And still they find a way to laugh, love and do generous
    works for others.
    That Sat carried into other Saturdays and one of the fun gals brought a stick of
    sage that she picked up from …The Women of Wisdom Shop, in the next town.
    We smoked that damn garage, it stunk up the whole house. She did this ..casting
    OUT chant, we were in hysterics.
    I’m almost afraid to tell you it worked. It’s freaky.
    We still get together and they still crack me up, sometimes we don’t see each other
    for weeks ..then someone asks if it’s okay to have a “Sage Saturday”.
    Hmmmmmmmm tomorrow is Saturday right?

    • Kat says:

      Intention is powerful. Our brains have yet unappreciated capabilities imo.
      Collective intention is breathtaking. jmo

    • Noelle says:

      Beautiful story…I love it!!

    • Ellabean says:

      Oh butter. Great story. It inspired me. I often feel lonely in my neighborhood too. Wish I had some women friends around here. And its okay about the saging. Cheese, I have feng shuied my house. Got my green plants strategically placed, my coin jar in my wealth corner and so on. And I am okay with other bloggers rolling their eyes at New agey stuff – really , its okay. I can laugh at it all too while seeing certain things that work.

      Kat , you are so right on the law of intention. 😉

      • butterisafruit says:

        Thanks Ellabean, Noelle and Kat. It was a lot of fun. And we were so silly.
        I NEED a wealth corner, that sounds neat!

  110. nepenthe says:

    Sarah=pudgey? Hmmm…..someone’s being kind. She’s easily 30lbs overweight and if she weren’t Jeff’s sister in-law he’d NEVER have hired her. Oh, and she chews her gum like a cow chewing it’s cud.

    BTW “she’s using to being”? I’d like to think you actually meant “she’s used to being”.

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