I Hate Jill Zarin The Amazing Race Sept 27, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin Amazing Race September 26, 2010

Tonight CBS presented episode one of its new season of The Amazing Race. With 11 teams of two, they are given brief instructions including a new feature! There is a special express pass to be won which can be used at any time during the race to bypass any of the challenges they will face in the race.

The teams race off from Boston Logan Airport to London, England with two flights ready to whisk them off to Europe, the first flight will accept only three teams but as they arrive at their first destination in England, Stonehenge the 30-minute fight difference becomes irrelevant.

The teams almost all got in the car on the wrong side of the vehicle but drove off to their first destination spot, Stonehenge. There was no time to take in the sights, the clue box was waiting and they were on to destination number 2 almost immediately.
With a very simple backward clue, the teams are then instructed to find Eastnor Castle where they are pummeled with nasty dirty water as they climb up the castle walls and retrieve a flag. They are then told to take a small round boat and balance themselves holding onto a wire across a short river.

One team member is then required to ride a horse in a joust then fling watermelons at a suit of armor to knock it down and finally locate the pit stop. Sounds simple right?

You would think being instructed to retrieve a flag and then grab a boat would be pretty straightforward, right? Believe it or not, there is a couple who just doesn’t get it. Running around looking for flags that are right in front of them and even touching one, the amazing tattooed couple can’t seem to find a flag or find a boat sitting on the edge of the water. I was so hoping that this couple would be eliminated just for being stupid, but alas The Amazing Race doesn’t work that way. Pardon me but I have absolutely no patience or compassion for stupidity on this show so this couple is already on the bottom of my list. Let’s hope they’re gone soon!

The team in first place leaving Boston, two young men named Tony and Ron purchase a map upon arriving in London yet are the last team to arrive at Stonehenge. Desperately lost in England trying to locate Eastnor Castle, they drive for hours trying to find the elusive castle. As do the tattooed couple but unfortunately, Tony and Ron are the last team to arrive and are eliminated.

Two Ivy League college students, one resembling Little Harry Potter run the race as young Potter describes Stonehenge as magical, ironic, huh? He and his buddy are in the middle of the pack throughout and end up 6th to the final pit stop.

There is a mother daughter team who has only recently met one another due to an adoption situation and is hoping that this race will help them to connect and get to know each other. Mom’s inexperience at driving a stick-shift car almost ended their chances at continuing the race but miraculously the car started up again and she got the hang of it.

Two young ladies Cat and Nat are both doctors and arrived second to the final pit stop in this first leg of the race.

There are three dating couples, a father daughter, father son and a couple of ladies who are hosts on a shopping network. One couple that stood out was Chad and Stephanie. The Amazing Race is famous for finding one real jerk that treats his wife / girlfriend like crap and Chad is this year’s asshole! Inevitably the jerk of the season will slow the couple down due to his frustration and rage and Chad is no exception. His anger almost lost them the first leg of the race as they searched around the massive castle grounds for Phil and the welcoming committee at the pit stop. This couple seemed to be the only ones who had trouble finding Phil tonight.
One of the three dating couples, Jill and Thomas arrive first and receive the express pass that will most likely come into play later in the season.

And so Season 17 is off and running, 17 years and Phil Keoghan looks exactly the same as he looked during Season 1. What’s up with that? The show has won several Emmy Awards but was beat out this year by our very own Top Chef. Phil Keoghan has the best gig in the world, this guy gets to travel with these contestants but merely stand there and announce the order in which the players arrive on the world mat. I would bet he stays in the very best hotels and travels first class with an entourage while the teams travel on long flights jammed into coach with their huge backpacks and seem to be running a whole lot. Phil most likely gets paid substantially more than the winning team but has to complete none of the challenges. Where do I sign up for Phil’s job?
CBS’s web site has the shocking footage of the watermelon in the face at the slingshot competition, (ouch, what a trooper to keep going) bio’s of all of the contestants, and interviews with the eliminated teams, you can find them here:


Meet the cast here:


Bravo will air another episode of Thintervention with Jackie Warner tonight. This show is a bit disappointing, I watched originally because Jeana was a member of the cast but she is on so very little that I wonder if she’s not happy about this gig and just wants to get back onto RHOOC. There are a few interesting characters but all of these weight loss shows are starting to all look alike.

Dina Manzo has had it with you people damnit, she’s not taking it anymore! From Twitter:

@DinaManzo: guys I LOVE u but please don’t RT or mention any of the haters to me. This twitter is a HAPPY place. I could care less what they say or do!!

Dina is an unstable, angry and most likely lonely housewife who can dish it out but cannot take it! Rumors continue that her husband Tommy isn’t much of a hands-on or available husband to his beloved Dina. Admitting he cheated on Dina prior to their televised wedding and refusing to appear on RHONJ with his wife are clues to their unhappy marriage.

Dina is taking her anger out on fans of the show, taking their heads off over innocent and kind tweets because her tiny brain can’t decipher fans from haters. Between 11pm and midnight on Sunday, Dina hit the old “Protect” button and has blocked her tweets. She has since released the block, she tends to do this when she wants to delete things that she’s tweeted in anger before anyone actually sees them.

Have you seen the new Hoaders episode? Welcome to Dina’s Crib on Hulu: http://hulu.com/w/4crd
The newest Housewives trend on Twitter is to sign up to post automatic ads on their Twitter page, here is an example from Teresa Giudice:

Got an iPad? Here are gorgeous cases (love the leather!), and if you buy 1, you get a screen guard free… http://spn.tw/tAa0R #ad

This auto posted to Teresa’s Twitter account at 5am and she was getting tweets asking why she was up so early? Are people really that naïve? I guess they are. This isn’t unique to Teresa, in fact, anyone can sign up to do this except the average Twitter’er would inevitably lose followers if they regularly tweeted advertisements.

Caroline does it, Jill Zarin, even Bethenny does it. The housewives really need the few dollars that this produces that badly?
I’ve started a new page, you can access it from the top of the screen by clicking on “IHJZ Family Photos” in the black bar under the banner. I think it’ll be fun to share photos of each other. I’ll be adding more photos every day, please send me your favorite photo of yourself, along with the name you use on the blog. If you prefer to remain anonymous, send a childhood photo or any photo you feel represents you best! I’ll post your kids, your pets or your favorite travel photo…anything you like! Thanks to our first few brave souls who have contributed to the fun! Email it to me at LynnAHudson@aol.com Thanks!

Don’t forget to check out the old IHJZ blogs reminding us all how much we hate Jill Zarin, I’ve included the comments as well, enjoy! http://lynnnchicago.blogspot.com/

Until Next Time….

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420 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Amazing Race Sept 27, 2010

  1. MickeyMouth says:

    Thanks for the new blog. Can’t comment on AR or Thin, but Dina should get off twitter.

    FYI Today is taping day for the DC reunion, per Lolly tweet.

    • quincyil says:

      Lolly is the new Ashley?

      • LynnNChicago says:

        I don’t get the same vibe from Lolly as we got from Ashley. Ashley is rude, uneducated and disrespectful. Lolly, while possibly being disrespectful by simply staying home with the folks too long, doesn’t embarass Mary on camera by calling her a bitch …or any of the other horrible things that Ashley has done to embarass her mother.

        Lolly and Mary do seem to be more like friends (as Mary said) than mother and daughter.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Agree Lynn; and as I said before Lolly cited the Declaration of Independence RE:inalienable rights (although someone pointed out she said the Constitution); Ashley I doubt is that insightful or could quote either of the two documents.

      • MickeyMouth says:

        nah, mostly Lolly tweets support of the LGBT community. Sometimes she throws a dig the Salahi’s way (nothing I’ve seen is offensive) but mostly she just writes words of encouragement to her mom in regards to RHODC.

        I wouldn’t compare her to Ashley at all.

        • Olivia says:

          But I wonder if Lolly’s decision to just quit the job she had was due more in part to her being featured on this show where she may feel her “art” would sell as a result of the publicity? Especially with all the links these people provide on their blogs.

          I don’t find anything admirable in “quitting” a job, especially in this economy where so many people are looking and unable to find one, to pursue a career in “art” with your parents footing the bills.

          Most people do not have that privilege to indulge their hobbies when rent, food and the miscellaneous output of daily living must be supplied.

          Lolly may not be on the same level as Ashley in some respects but the mindset is pretty much the same. They wish to do what they want without interference as long as somebody else is paying the bills.

          • MickeyMouth says:

            I think we are in a time warp because of how long ago DC was taped and then aired. Lolly has tweeted that she has been working for about a year for a faux finishing company. I think they make faux furnishing (like Teresa is auctioning) for homes. I have to admit I don’t know all the stuff that has been going on the show because I am about two behind.

            • Olivia says:

              That’s true. I keep forgetting that this was filmed so long ago.

              Glad to see that she did find employment.

              • Sha2000 says:

                We forget too that these young ladies have the luxury of quitting in this economy (no matter the reasons why) because they are supported primarily by their parents & have a Bravo pay check. Let them quit, there are many who are less fortunate & really need that job.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            ditto – quit a job because you don’t like it and want to do something that may/may not provide steady income is immature, and especially dumb in this economy. Maybe if the car, phone, etc were taken away it would have an impact, but I doubt it since Mary needs to be a friend more than a mother to Lolly.

  2. Wall St Lady says:

    WSM went to see Wall Street at the biggest theater in NYC ,the Zigfield. This was his brief review to m

    Ok movie. Michael Douglas was a little like a “dull knife” cutting a steak. The girl in our film the Greatest is in a lead role (carey mulligan). Should be down there.
    A lot of people we know have cameo. Bartiroma, Scaramucci, Chanos, Insona, others.
    I will go again w/u.

    By Wall St Lady on September 27, 2010 at 8:25 am

  3. Wall St Lady says:

    Maria did a short documentary on WS women. I was one of the 3 featured. Her husband John Steinberg’s father had a major rise & tragic fall. Maria is from Brooklyn. She looks different in person. She is NOT skinny. She is a doll !
    The 4 of us went to SNL.
    WSM & I R NOT social in NYC. (We do “step out” in Fla.

    • quincyil says:

      She’s beautiful.

      I’ve visited Manhattan. I loved the restaurants in the Times Square area. Every night, I dragged my family to a different ethnicity. So I saw a really nice restaurant with the name Olive Garden and made that our choice for an evening. We go up the stairs and are handed menus. I look at my daughter and she laughs. It was one of the chains that we have here. Everyone laughed. Hey… I thought it was a fine Italian restaurant and it was. Prices were higher… That’s for sure.

    • When you went to SNL, did you go to the dress rehearsal, or the live show?
      I guess you had the VIP tickets, but when I went, I had the tickets that I sent a postcard, and they sent me tickets for the dress rehearsal which was right before the live show.
      The people who got to see the dress reheasel actually got “more” of a show, because what they used to do-(don’t know if they still do it like this), is that for the dress rehersal, on the Weekend Update, they would show all of the little “interruption” bits that everyone had proposed that week, and the one that got the most laughs would be the one that they would do for the live televised version.
      -I always wondered if anybody except VIPs got to see the live show?
      Also-when I went, Eddie Murphy streaked, (ran naked), through the audience, something else that wasn’t on the live version. I think that he was complaining about his Gumby costume and pretending like he was trying to hide from it.

    • 2Stupid says:

      I apologize if I am bugging you, but I feel like the biggest bafoon ever. Did you spend any of your career at Goldman’s? I’ve narrowed my search, but I still think I am way off the mark. I’ll never get hired as a research analyst!

  4. LynnNChicago says:

    Jeepers asked me to share this with all of you, she posted it on Jill Zarin’s site but of course it didn’t get approved for post:

    Jeepers Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    September 27th, 2010 at 7:08 am
    Just what I thought, you didn’t want to post my
    comments unless I was saying wonderful things about
    the “WITCH.” Doesn’t matter, I can post anywhere
    else and tell them you are a “BITCH”, but then people
    already know that, don’t they?……LOL
    I just love LynnNchicago’s blog site,
    “I HATE JILL ZARIN”, because I really do hate
    jill zarin!!! Poor Bobby, bet he has nightmares
    and keeps asking himself, why he married you.
    Of course we know you won’t post this either……..

  5. Lynn-Teresa is actually winning a contest for her sponsored Tweets! I have a post about it on my blog. http://njhousewives.blogspot.com/
    The service that she uses is actually very easy to sign-up for, although I cannot figure-out what the rules are, and you have to make sure that you un-check the auto-tweet button if you don’t want to annoy people.—-but you could easily add it to your blogger site, they have a blogger widget.
    MM-thank you for letting us know about the DC re-union! I was wondering if Bravo was just going to scrap that since they don’t even have a DC message board on their site like they have for the others.
    About Claudine, or Dina, wow-I just put this in the category as more of the crap that these woman, (sic/ courtesy Danielle), were trying to hide about themselves.
    And even though as a viewer I was repulsed by Danielle, I am equally offended at the treatment that she recieved from Bravo & the cast.

    • quincyil says:

      Danielle should not be attacked by the cast any more. After Dina left, the three amigas were the only ones that could mention Dina’s name. So now, it is logical that Danielle not be mentioned.

      I suspect the NJ girls will pull a Rachel Zoe and we will have to count the episodes that mention Danielle as we did those mentioning Taylor.

  6. LynnNChicago says:

    Oh this is poetic! Jill Zarin is heading to Australia tomorrow just as the RHONY Episode airs….the one where she is booted off the island! I love it!

    I’m sure the Australians hate her as much as we do now, they got to see the real JZ.

    • quincyil says:

      I know the Australians love Alex, Simon and the boys. Maybe, Jill will get kicked off a gigantic island in the Southern Hemisphere soon. I hope she goes to the bathroom on the plane because it will be one heck of a trip if she doesn’t.

    • viki55 says:

      When is the episode airing? I don’t see a listing for RHONY tomorrow on Bravo.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      Maybe you can start an international blog 😉

    • cusi77 says:

      Good Morning Lynn!

      Do you know in what city in Australia will be JZ? I have my cousin Elsa living in Melbourne… I do not know if She watches The RHONY but will be interesting to know how The Australians will react to her visit overe there! Tomatoes! tomatoes! tomatoes!

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Mornin Cusi! I lot of people have been asking her that and she’s not responding, I’m not sure why. I’m also not sure if this is just a vacation for her or if she has some book signings.

        Let’s hope tomatoes are in season in Australia right now.

        • TLM says:

          Tomatoes actually ARE coming into season there, since they are going into late spring/early summer as we are leaving the summer behind and headed into fall.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        From Jill’s web site (gawd I hate going there)

        September has been a busy month! I had a great time speaking at the University of South Florida last week where I met a lot of amazing people. I also spoke at a charity event in Michigan which was equally wonderful!

        I am very excited! Bobby and I will be visiting Australia next week! We are only going to be in Sydney for a few days then we are taking a fabulous cruise to the Great Barrier Reef! We can’t wait! I know a lot of my Australian fans had recommended Melbourne, but we can’t fit it into this trip. Hopefully next time and it gives us a great reason to return! If you have any recommendations for restaurants, shopping etc. while we are in Sydney, please let me know.

        I tried to set up a book signing but unfortunately the book will not be available in Australia until March. But if you are in Australia and would like to purchase it before then, you can order it through Zarin Fabrics.

        Looking forward to visiting the land down under!
        Love, Jill

        • boston02127 says:

          I can’t believe that kindling she calls a book will still be selling in March of 11.

        • SavingGrace says:


          She’s not coming to Chicago? Didn’t she threaten to stink up our town with her vile slimy personality a few months ago?

          Did she change her mind? Are we Chicagoans safe yet from that terror knows as the Housewife Beast that ate
          her RHONY castmates???

        • icantstandthetoxicity says:

          I’m surprised that Jill is going on vacation while they are filming season four of RHONY. I doubt that Bravo is going to film Jill and Bobby on vacation, that would be extremely boring. I hope this is a sign that the rumors are true about Jill being reduced to part-time status. *crossing fingers*

    • boston02127 says:

      cuz she’s an idiot

    • Char212 says:

      I would guess because she always wears bright colors so she stands out in the crowd! Typical Jill.

    • SavingGrace says:

      She is wearing a shade of white called “as-white-as-the-driven-in-snow”. I think it matches the color of her soul.

      She is a yucky chaza!

    • MickeyMouth says:

      This sentence from the article is odd, “Jill Zarin also joined her fellow cast mates, but the overall message was not lost on those who took part”

      Is the writer trying to say that Jill didn’t ruin the message by not participating in wearing a white gown? or That Jill couldn’t ruin the message by showing up 😉

      • SavingGrace says:

        And why does Kelly Bensimon once again look like there is an alien like creature ready to pop out of belly area.

        Go to Spanx! Go to Spanx! You’re Crazy, go wear some spanx!
        (sorry, channeling my inner Bethenny…)

        • MickeyMouth says:

          The picture looks like it could be straight out of last season. Jill appears to be dabbing her eyes (crocodile tears), Sonja appears to be trying to play peacemaker, Kelly looks lumpy and Luann is advising Alex on how she should interact with Jill.

          • icantstandthetoxicity says:

            We are going to be subjected to another season of Countless and Kelly acting as Jill’s bodyguards. *shakes head*

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      because she is only there to be filmed, she doesn’t support the cause enough to wear the white!

    • nathania says:

      Sonja looks stunning in that dress. I can’t understand why someone like KKB is asked to pose for Playboy instead of someone shaped like Sonja who has a very feminine figure.

  7. Spoiled Eggs says:

    Did you see the watermelon nail that girl in the face on The Amazing Race last night? If you haven’t it made television history! Check out my blog and tell me what you think!


  8. skinnybirthday says:

    Just wanted to say, keep up the good work Lynn! Love u, love your blog, THANX FOR ALL THIS GREAT ENTERTAINMENT!


  9. SavingGrace says:

    So…back to Dina.

    I have to say I am surprised Dina acts this way but then again, whatever she is no longer on the show.

    What does surprise me is why doesn’t she “RUN” to the tabloids like Teresa does. She could put her side of the story out there IF what she says is true. I’m sure US or OK! magazine would like to show Dina, Tommy and Lexi as a happy family.

    The fact that she is on these twitter attacks can be seen as psychotic confirmation that what people are saying about her and Tommy is mostly true.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I see Dina as a very lonely person. Caroline told Danielle not to even say her name so Caroline doesn’t want to talk about her either! Whatever is going on in Dina’s life is not happiness/zen – and if she can’t take a negative tweet now and then maybe she should just stop tweeting and concentrate on her fabulous new closet and use her designing skills to design a new life for herself.

      • nathania says:

        I really don’t get her, the way to handle negativity is to not respond and block. If you are doing anything more than this you are perpetuating it, making an arse of yourself (if you claim to be as ‘zen’ as she is) and it looks like you are trying to throw weight around which isn’t very zen either.

    • emdee says:

      Hey Grace – I said yesterday that Tommy’s gotta know all the crap his wife gets about their marriage being a sham etc. Don’t you think it should make him feel really bad for her if he really loved her, and he would want to show his face, at least once in awhile, for her sake? That’s what makes me wonder.

      • SavingGrace says:

        So true.

        Dina reminds me of how a baby acts. Sweetly smiling one minute and howling the next. She acts so out of control sometimes.

        It is so sad….

  10. American Idiot says:

    Thanks for the blog on TAR, Lynn. I have been a big fan for years. Hoping to see an all girl team win this time around.

  11. Wall St Lady says:

    By housewifehater on September 27, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Maria invited us so I don’t know about VIP. We did use a different elevator & got ahead of the line. There were well known people dispersed around.
    It was not the practice one. W
    The big guest was Gore I think. (Need to ask WSM)
    Who was ur guest celebrity ? Murphy. I wish he had been ours. Then we ate at a cool restaurante. I don’t know why but we didn’t click as couples. I stay in touch w/both. Jonathan started the first ETS (derivative index ) & is doing well. Maria is the Barbara Walters of WS.

    • Ha ha-I remember that elevator! The people that we were in line with booed at the people that got to go up on the elevator while we had to wait in a line.
      I love 30 Rock and I actually got to spend a little time in that building for some radio stuff-always wished that I had visited that famous commissary.
      I think that Murphy was a cast member when I went. When I received the tickets in the mail, they had the name of the week’s special guest, I almost died when I saw the name printed, because she was my favorite artist at that time, “Stevie Nicks”, and it was the first time that I saw her live.
      I had actually tried to see her in person before that, in NYC, but it turned-out that the event that I went to had an imposter Stevie Nicks, and it was just some look-alike that had been hired to appear.

  12. error404 says:

    Interview with Brad..


    Sorry if it’s been posted before, I just saw it now.

    Better not get too popular Brad, Rach will not be a happy camper… 😛

  13. LynnNChicago says:

    Thanks for the link Boston – More about the freebie’s Housewives are getting by tweeting ads on Twitter:


    • Thanks Lynn!-I posted upthread that you may want to check-out that paid Tweet thing that Teresa uses, I signed-up since it was really easy & I even sent one as a test, although I wouldn’t get into the habit cause it would probably annoy people. But you can skip using it on Twitter and post them on your Blogger page if you like too.
      I can’t figure out if you are only allowed to send one per day or not? Teresa could be making a lot of money off those Tweets, besides winning their contests.
      I think that they only pay for click-throughs, but she has like a hundred thousand Twitter followers and some of them will click any link that she sends.
      I don’t know if they realize that she is getting paid for it-it doesn’t look like it from the comments on her Facebook page.

      • I just did the math. Teresa could be getting paid thousands per DAY from those paid Tweets.
        She could possibly even pay her bills and withdraw the bankrupcy with what she’s making on that alone. No wonder she is saying that she’s setting up a new website and getting into the “helpful hints”.

  14. boston02127 says:

    Lauren’s boyfriend Vito works at or owns a deli. (Littleitalydeli) I wonder if it was the deli shot on RHONJ when the guys spent so much money?

  15. lillybee says:

    OC news. Tamra is now saying that Simon has abused her for years. Simon says that the reason Tamra is alleging abuse is because she wants full custody of the children.
    She wants to have the kids on RHONY and he is against it.

  16. lillybee says:

    Big oops. meant to say RHOC.

    • error404 says:

      It’s actually fairly classy for a HW house. NJ, At or even certain NY wives *cough*jill zarin *cough* would have tarted it up with swags and shinny.

      The one thing that I really don’t like is the eating area of the kitchen, with a fireplace and an open doorway right into the formal dining room which has basically the same table and chairs. It’s like double vision that makes it seem more like a dining hall than a house, and JMO but fireplaces in dining rooms are stupid. We had one when we moved in and the very first thing we did was convert the room to a library/den… so cozy on winter nights.

      • Sha2000 says:

        I agree 404!
        My home’s dining room is followed by the kitchen which is followed by the patio/lanai. Even though there are walls separating them & each table is in another room & the patio set outside; I cannot stand the idea that they are in a straight line. It is worse when you can see it though, like Dina’s (no offense Dina) kitchen table followed immediately by the dining room table. But it doesn’t bother some, for me it feel like a restaurants dining room. Mary’s taste is very sophisticated & I’m willing to bet there was a decorator hired. Her preference for white walls & cowhides reminds me a bit of Kelly, who’s homes I also like…I could do without the shark over the FP & the life size horse in the apt. though, but these touches is what personalizes a house & makes it a home….the witty touches one can live with. I had an antique whale vertebrae on my living room floor for many years, to each her own. Even Dinas, decor all over is GOOD because it seems personal to her; at least that’s how I see it…all good just as long as its not tacky ; )

        Was that piece in the dining room Lolly’s? If so she has talent & it’s a sweet tribute to her family.

    • Dawn says:

      The home is lovely. I love the “Family” artwork done by Lolly as seen in the dining room.

  17. Adgirl says:

    Amazing Race!!!

    I enjoyed every moment of this episode. I still get chills when the theme starts!

    Phil: What Country are we in?
    Tattoo: London.
    IDIOT! Har Har!

    Isn’t TAR the smart and classy reality show? Who applies to a reality show about racing around the world when you don’t know anything about geography? Or what a battlement is (take the flag on the battlement), if you don’t know, THINK about what it could mean!!! They are NOT this season’s Kynt & Vyxsin (the goths).

    Those little boats capsizing on everyone was fantastic!!

    Last team in MAY be eliminated:
    You knew the last team in was getting the loser edit so no surprise there. How come they were the ones with a map and still got lost? I think the back seat guy was not giving good directions to his driver.

    Very glad TAR didn’t repeat that elimination at the start of the race like last year.

    Jerky guy and his girl. Yeah, reminded me of that team Jonathon and Victoria. He made her carry the backpacks or something. She cried alot.

    My favorite TAR team ever – (don’t hate me) is Romber (Boston Rob and Amber) from TAR 7. We don’t watch Survivor so we didn’t have ideas about them. We loved how smart they were and how well they worked together. And he was a scream.

    • American Idiot says:

      The tattoo team kept looking for the flag from a “battlemen” They thought they were supposed to get it from a person.

      Not the sharpest tools in the shed, those two.

      The recently reunited mother – daughter team did not seem to get it. It’s a race – hurry up.

      • Adgirl says:

        That’s right. Hurry Hurry! that’s why I love this show, the sense of urgency. I can’t believe how worked up I get over hailing a cab.
        Oh, and I am constantly astonished by teams that DON’T READ THE CLUE properly. Get off my tv.

    • Sha2000 says:

      The eliminated team seemed like they could have gone much further in the race, too bad. My favorite all time team is the Hippies, Tyler & BJ…nice guys who finished first. Remember them?

      • American Idiot says:

        I loved the cowboys from last season – Jet and Cord. I wanted them to win so much, but they came in second, if I remember correctly.

        They had such a wide eyed amazement about everything. Very refreshing.

        They were brothers, right?

        • JKW says:

          The cowboys were brothers. They had a few dumb moments too but luckily they were very likable. I wished they had won. I also really liked Rob and wished he would have lasted longer on Survivor All Stars. Also Adgirl…I posted a link to an interview with Kirenan ( Sally ) on the last blog when we were discussing Mad Men http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/2010/09/kiernan-shipka-interview.php

          • Adgirl says:

            Thank you!!

          • Adgirl says:

            That interview was hysterical. Someone commented/asked if she was actually 40 years old b/c she’s so adult sounding. I like that her mother doesn’t let her watch MM.
            Her favorite scene this season hasn’t broadcast yet? Wonder what that’s about …. hmm.

            • JKW says:

              Wasn;t she amazingly articulate for a 10 yr old ? I kept thinking someone must have prepped her or fed her answers. She did a great job. Sounds like she is pretty much a normal kid and her parents are making sure of that…as compared to some of the HW kids.

              • Kat says:

                I agree. She grasped complicated issues and her comments were insightful and showed a mature understanding that made me think she might be a college professor.

              • JKW says:

                Kat..for some reason I can’t respond to you, there is no reply under your comment. Not sure why since it’s tough for me to sometimes follow where discussions go or even find my own comments ! But it actually looks like you are still up too.

  18. WindyCityWondering says:

    This morning I was thinking about Teresa and all her adoring fans, her events, her book signings, etc – at this time considering the petition, do you think she is still hiding assets? By now the Guidice duo should have enough assets and incomes declared that the trustee may be able to deny their petition and let the creditors line up. The lying and hiding under oath is a seperate issue…..given their track record wouldn’t a Chapter 13 with garnishments be appropriate?

    • nathania says:

      I am sure they have many assets hidden. If I had to guess I’d say most of them are hidden. They probably started squirreling away prior to the outcome of the court case where Joe forged the documents about no longer owing 300k to his partner.

  19. Wall St Lady says:

    Wham Bam
    Thank U Fam(LynnFam of course)

    U know this is a 24 hour a day party.
    At the LynnFam party;
    U don’t have to b on time
    U can come in ur PJs
    U don’t have to talk to people u don’t like
    U don’t have to worry if ur clothes aren’t new
    If u have gained weight no one. knows
    If u haven’t taken a bath or ur hair is dirty its ok
    U don’t need a date
    U can drink & not have to drive
    U can b clever & get compliments
    U can show how smart u r
    If u come late u will know EXACTLY what was said about U
    U can meet interesting new people every day

    Who wants to add

    I say
    WHam Bam thank U Mam
    I LOVE LOVE Love the LynnFam !
    Thanks for letting me b here

  20. MAMAZ says:

    It sounds like it was a good episode too. I didn’t even knew it was starting. Thanks for the recap Lynn.

  21. Wall St Lady says:

    Remember when Lynn mentioned putting our pictures up.
    Well I had another idea. What if we put up a picture of when we were much younger.
    I have a professional picture taken when I was 4. I looked like Shirley Temple. I have on an Easter Bonnet w/ my curls showing. I have on a tiny gold bracelet & a tiny necklace. I wore both all the time. I am on a low stool & my Easter purse was by me on the floor. I had a big petticoat under my pink w/lace dress.
    On Easter morning my mother dressed me 1st & then my brothers. She tod me to sit & look at a book. I found a pair of scissors & cut all the curls in front because I didn’t like them hanging out of my hat. Needless to say my mother was horrified. Soon after I has a “pixie” cut & I was delighted cuz now I didn’t has to roll my hair with sox at night !
    Sorry if I Bored u !

  22. MAMAZ says:

    Sorry if this has already been posted. teresa’s new book deal.
    FABULICIOUS!: The Italian Family Cookbook, according to Publishers Marketplace. It is to feature “easy, budget-friendly recipes that will please the whole family.”

  23. Wall St Lady says:

    I am in Fla. & The society paper made fun of Cindy Phillip’s whose West Palm Beach. Store, called Completely Bare , closed. The paper said : we guess the Real wives will be completely bare house wives .

    I went to the PB local book store& asked if they were familiar w/ or had Gorilla’s book. This very snobby woman w/ a lock jaw accent said. Afraid not ! I said great I knew this store still had taste !

    • quincyil says:

      Oh.. Florida beach…. I thought it might be windy in the Hamptons.

      When I go to our tiny bookshop in the mall I look and there have been 9 of Teresa’s books there for a while. They are in the cookbook area. Bethenny’s books are in health and so was Jackie Warner’s book.

      I never looked for Jill’s book. It never occurred to me to look.

      • justanothermary says:

        I was having chemo therapy last week and there are several women who have the treatment at the same time. We form a “friendship” of sort, going through the same thing and being in the same room for several hours at a time. Anyway, among the books available was Jill’s book. I picked it up out of curiousity and a woman there said, “Oh don’t bother, that’s the dumbest book I’ve ever read.” She said she doesn’t know anyting about the RHONY but that if the book is any indication, the show must be drivel. I laughed and filled her in some.

  24. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi 2Stupid
    I have wanted to talk to u ! U flatter me to care ! I didn’t work for GS. I did work for Hutton. I started a division for Republic Bank b4 I started my own company. My co. & the measurement co have my name on it. I used my name cuz when I was at Hutton any one who had a team of people were called by the producers name
    the —- Group So that stuck. Otherwise I would have called my co. Mayb something more clever. I asked my research group

    • 2Stupid says:

      Thanks WSL for answering my question. I found two docs by Maria and I can’t place any bio to the clues I get from you. I’m just going to have to get over my obsession and continue to enjoy your posts. The trailers for The Greatest really looked interesting. Must be very fascinating to be a part of something like that. I am very removed from Wall Street, but it is my guilty pleasure as I find it very provocative. I was fired from my first job, and ended up suing them to change my personnel file, and pay me back commissions. It was very difficult to deal with that in my early twenties, but taught me how really cut throat men in this business can be. The company ended up having a class action suit against the rampant discrimination against women.

      • The mystery was driving me crazy too, and I got nowhere with the Maria B. hints. But-I finally solved it. (not)2stupid, did you figure it out yet? I even saw a photo-WSL would make a great NYHW! and is probably exactly the type of person we had hoped would be instead-of nasty JZ.
        I’m not giving out any clues, since its not my game, but I will say that WSL was named one of, “New York’s 50 most powerful women”.

        • kmuellfa says:

          I just figured it out. WSL, you were right, I have never heard of you (no slight to you, I just don’t know anything about the world of Wall Street and high finance). I was a flight attendant for 15 years and decided to go back to school for a nursing degree. We just have lived in different worlds.
          You did mention that you are from NC. My grandparents lived in Wilmington. I spent many summers and holidays there (I’ll maybe retire there someday). When my grandfather sold his business and “retired”, he and a few others opened Air Wilmington at the airport. During the summer, my grandfather would give me flying lessons while I worked off my fuel washing and fueling planes. They’re both gone now, and I miss the shrimp boils they used to have.

    • Ione says:

      I’ve enjoyed doing trying to find out who you are, WSL. It’s been a fun exercise. I kept wanting to make you be SK but the time line didn’t match. Had fun, thanks for the clues and giving me, an oldie, a puzzle to work. I need all the help I can get keeping the brain cells working.

      (BTW, WSM is just as you described!)

  25. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi justanothermary
    I have been “Jive Talking” for the past hour. I want u to know nothing is more important than u & the awful stuff u have to go thru to live. U r so brave & braver still to share w/us. But I for one am happy to b on ur cheering team. I also love Noelle & her sis,she has her heart in my pocket.
    Know that every hair on ur head is counted & precious to the God I worship. (Please don’t b offended this is my faith & if I joined Him tomorrow I would sing : “Oh Happy day”.
    Let’s not take away from the current situation u have to deal w/daily. U r much braver than I would b. I certainly wouldn’t want to blog w/me. So thanks for sharing. Thanks for being someone we all admire.
    U & all LynnFam dealing w/cancer
    ROCK !
    I miss squirrels

    • quincyil says:

      Every life is precious. I am so glad that we get to support women here. Thanks, Lynn.

      When Jill leaves the North American continent, I am sure that all of us will feel relief. LOL.

      I would like to see the stars and many galaxies visible from Australia. The brightest stars are in their skies. The stars at the South Pole look like the move in the opposite direction of our Big Dipper/Ursa Major. They don’t have a star at the pole as we have Polaris a bluish star at ours. If you look out this evening Orion will rising in the East. He has three stars in his belt. The skies have been fantastic here of late. Clean, crisp cool air… gorgeous…and Jill Zarin free.

    • justanothermary says:

      Thank you so much WSL. This blog actually gets mine mind of of ME for a change and that is a HUGE relief. I’m going well and am certain I will be cancer free very soon.

    • Diana says:

      WSL, I finally found you! You are not only the “real deal”, you are gorgeous!

      I miss Squirrels too. Sigh.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Very well said. You’re very eloquent-I admire that.

  26. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi jazz where have u been ? Missed u.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Hi WSL: sick, think it was the flu, chills and fever, and my computer went down. All is well now tho. So glad to be back to read your posts, lol.

  27. TEB says:

    I love The Amazing Race! I swear it’s the only reality show I would ever do. Thanks for the great recap Lynn! We should have a LynnFamily blog team try out for the Race. Maybe Lynn and Quincy? Boston and OneMore Boston? WSL and WSM??

    • Adgirl says:

      It’s the only reality show I would do also!!

    • Adgirl says:

      Do you think we could wear our “I Hate Jill Zarin” tee shirts?

    • quincyil says:

      I will do it. I will pull my own weight too… just like Thintervention’s cast.

      Thintervension is on tonight at 9 PM Central. It looks like Brian had a heart attack, but we will see.

      I know CPR in case we need it for our team …

      So… I will look at the show for Jackie’s method of training and give her secrets from the book on skin care because there are a lot of grandmothers here.
      I also researched on my own for the past year and I have a few ideas that seem to be working for me… according to my skin doctor who likes making money off of grandmothers who think they should look like their daughters.

      I can’t wait for Mary Amon to become a grandmother who is almost a sister to her baby granddaughter. rotfl

      • TEB says:

        You definitely need to wear your “IHJZ” t-shirts! The team races to raise awareness in each continent they visit of JZ’s obnoxiousness. Team “IHJZ” wins the Amazing Race and uses their fame to write books and sell jewelry with our theme. When The Amazing Race has the All-Star version- America wants our Team IHJZ to win it all. Bravo decides to kick Jill off because of all the negative press against her. The End.

        • quincyil says:

          You are going to be on the team too, right? LOL>

          My son’s girl friend actually tried out for Survivor and almost got on . She has a master’s in entertainment business from U of F. She is also a fitness model. I know she watched Bravo so I think she would be good for our team. We have so many people, we may have to have our own series. BTW…. I am not afraid of anything… snakes.. bugs… large cats… I can ride and throw watermelons…If there is something icky… I will do it for Lynn’s team!

          • boston02127 says:

            I wouldn’t last a half an hour on Survivor. I’d be the first person in Survivor history crying and yelling GET ME OUT OF HERE NOW!

            • MAMAZ says:

              Survivor = No toothbrushes.
              That means NO MamaZ.

            • American Idiot says:

              I could never, ever eat some of the foreign things that the contestants on both Survivor and even TAR have to eat.

              Any kind of bug, or weird fish or small animal offered to me on a plate, I would run right out of there.

              Even watching people eat crazy things on television makes me sick. I feel like someone punched me in the stomach.

          • TEB says:

            Awesome Quincy!!

    • See what I posted below TEB! Amazing Race 17 is casting this week!

  28. cdnfillie58 says:

    I am thoroughly ticked off….that overblown barbie wannabe Tamra from OC now says she has been abused all along…I just want to kick her ass all the way to Jersey, she should feel right at home there with the other RHNJ liars and grifters…grrrrrr

    • nathania says:

      I’m really surprised at ‘traditional’ Simon wanting to take his kids away from their mom. I agree she was abused, she was emotionally abused right on camera. And he had no problem with having the kids filmed as long as she and they were under his roof, so I think that his protestations about wanting to protect them from the camera won’t hold water.

      • Adgirl says:

        Why do I think that Simon was abused by her too. Poor kids. Their parents are unbelievable.

        • MAMAZ says:

          That’s a serious accusation to make against a person.
          If it’s true I’m glad she found the strength to leave. If it’s not God help her for the false accusation against the father of her children.
          I would like someone, anyone, to come forward and corroborate her story. In spite of the fact that abuse usually takes place behind closed doors it rarely goes entirely unnoticed by family and friends.

          • error404 says:

            The last line “She is asking for full custody of the children. ” explains it all.

            In order to rob the man of his kids, she must make him out to be an monster who would endanger their welfair.

            And the more “wronged” she was, the fatter her alimony check.

            • quincyil says:

              When they lived together, she was getting up late. He made sure they had breakfast and took them to school. He was the parent at home while she went to events. I think she’s a lazy mom.

            • emt2 says:

              I hope that it gets resolved. The judge did throw out her restraining order because there was no evidence.

              Yesterday, she said that she didn’t want him arrested. Now she is saying that he has been abusing her for years. I don’t know what to believe. I don’t trust anything she says but there’s always a bit of truth somewhere in the middle.

              But, if I were a parent, I would want to protect my children. And that is not happening. Tamara does seem to be the one putting this in the media, public eye, making sure cameras are rolling.

              Notice that when Cat got a divorce, we didn’t see the process. We only heard about it after everything was said and done and the girls were already attending their new school in England. That is the way to handle things. Not tow cameras around and try to get public support.

              Fame for the sake of fame is something else…

              • Kat says:

                I agree. Playing to the public is wrong and can only cause more hurt and hostility with the ex.
                The kids lose.

  29. StillAWallflower says:

    Hi all. I just wanted to thank all of you who sent prayers, positive thoughts, to me and my mom last week when I mentioned she was in hospice. She passed away over the weekend, peacefully and quickly. Your kindness meant a lot to me during a very stressful week. Laughter truly is the best medicine–a daily dose of this site kept me going this summer.

    • Adgirl says:

      So sorry for your loss. Our family has lost many recently. God speed to you.

    • 2Stupid says:

      Wallflower am very sorry for your loss. The fact that she went peacefully is all you can ask. I hope the grieving period for you is swift, and the heavy burden is lifted from you heart. Prayers and hugs…..

    • Kat says:

      Hospice is a wonderful thing.
      I’m so sorry for your loss.

    • klmh says:

      You and your family will be in my prayers this evening. I am truly sorry for your loss…

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I’m so sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you as you go through this difficult time. <<<>>>

    • lillybee says:

      So sorry for your loss.

    • quincyil says:

      So sorry. I realy do care about you.

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      My heartfelt prayers to you and your family. I lost my beautiful Mom in April…I truly feel your loss…hugs!!

    • Ellabean says:


      ~hugs to you~

    • Dawn says:

      Sincere condolences to you and yours. The loss of a mother is like no other.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      oh wallflower- I’m so, so sorry to hear of your loss. You and your family are in my heart and prayers.

    • StillAWallflower says:

      Thank you all, SO SO much. To all nurses, health care aides, and hospice workers out there–you are truly angels who walk among us. My mother was at a dedicated hospice facility for the last week of her life and it was the most amazing place. After more than 10 years living with Alzheimer’s disease, she spent her last week comfortable and calm.

      My thoughts and prayers are with all of the wonderful LynnFam members here who are also suffering with illness and loss (of every kind).

      • anniieee says:

        Stillawallflower, so very sorry for your loss. My mom is 88 and going to the school for the blind now. I am watching her slow down and struggle with things that were easy. My heart hurts for you and I hope and pray that life becomes easier for you as time goes on. Sending angels and saints your way and know we have another star in Heaven now. She is watching and she is so very proud of you.

      • dumberries says:

        I’m so glad to see you posting, but so very sorry for your loss. In your first post, you said that it would be a blessing to have your mom’s pain to be taken away, but didn’t realize how unprepared you can be to lose someone near the end. Completely understand the feeling and wish you much peace.

      • American Idiot says:

        I am sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you. No matter what your age or situation, it is so difficult to lose your mother.

        With sympathy to you.


      • kmuellfa says:

        Hospice definitely is a great thing. I’m so sorry for your loss.

    • boston02127 says:

      @StillAWallflower–I’m so sorry for your loss. ♥

    • cusi77 says:

      (((((((( StillaWallflower! )))))))) Sending Angels your way…. You are in my prayers and my thoughts!

      • HD says:

        My condolences, Wallflower. HUGS!

        • Sha2000 says:

          It’s hard to put my sentiment into words as it was done so well by all the posts above….I’m very sorry to hear of her passing Wallflower. As I said last week keep focusing on that love that was between you; my wish is that you find comfort in it.

    • error404 says:

      😦 So Sorry for your loss. (((()))))

    • JazzNightOut says:

      ((((((( wallflower)))))))) and ((((((cdnfillie))))))))))))). Prayers for both of you.

    • emt2 says:

      I’m so sorry. We have and will continue to think of you and your family and send love your way. Come and hang out with us whenever you need and want to and know that you have people here who care about you.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      You will continue to be in my prayers. Take care of yourself and your family.

      • TT in OC says:

        Sorry for your loss. I lost my dad 17 months ago and it still hurts when I thought of him. Please take care!!

    • I am so sorry for your loss, Wallflower. My thoughts and prayers are with you. {{{Hugs}}}

  30. Wall St Lady says:

    By housewifehater on September 27, 2010 at 8:59 am
    Wow wow WoW
    I would gladly go up any elevator for Stevie !
    When I 1st lived in NYC 1976 I lived in a cave w/ an air shaft,I didn’t even have a radio. . Some played Stevie every night & I herd it thru the air shaft.
    A 22 year old WSL singing Loudly to a band I didn’t at the time know the name of. Regardless ;
    “Thunder only happens
    When it raining
    Lovers only
    f*#k when its raining (just kidding)

    • lillybee says:

      In the early 70’s I lived in a basement apt on Bedford St. The upstairs tenants fought a lot. It would always begin with him screaming “you are a whore” over and over and then she would toss his bottle down the air shaft. We also had a bathtub in the kitchen.

  31. Wall St Lady says:

    y StillAWallflower on September 27, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    My sincere condo lances. U r so kind to share ur paine w/ the LynnFam. U open the door for some one may b less fortunate than u w/less physical support to share their loss w/us. U R Brave & a role model for me.
    U r not alone here.
    Big Hug

  32. Ellabean says:

    Wallflower, Mary, cdn fillie, and others. Dedicated a song just for you. Go upthread just a bit to WSL 1:06 post. Just below it.

  33. Dawn says:

    Did any one else watch Sister Wives last night? I wish Lynn would blog about it. It had my feelings swaying from one direction to the other. The show ended with hubby’s declaration to the “family” that he was courting another wife and would be bringing a fourth on board. I’m too lazy to write a synopsis but it’s really worth viewing if only to see the viewpoints that the women have about the union. There’s some positive argument to be made about the bond that the women have with each other and their children. Some parts of it were just creepy.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I didn’t watch it but I have read about the show. I guess what consenting adults do is their business but I could never be a part of that type of arrangement.
      Did the show say whether or not they receive any public assistance? He is only legally married to one of the women. That would make the other wives and children eligible for government programs. And I don’t think anyone should have more children than they can take care of themselves.
      And if he should decide to abandon the sister wives what legal recourse do they have for support? Obviously a DNA test would prove paternity but what about division of assets? If polygamy were legal that would all be covered.
      My biggest problem with them is the same one I have with The Duggars. There are already too many people on this planet. And far too many children in the foster care system. If you have so much love to give share it with a child who needs it.
      But reproduction is an extremely personal decision. I would never want to see legislation about the number of children you can have,

      • Dawn says:

        One of the wives works and she states that it takes her away from the home for long hours each day, (10, 12 hrs)? One was clearly a stay at home mom, one wanted to return or was returning to school. It was unclear if she worked. All live in the same home with 3 separate living spaces. Wife number 4 lives four hours away and it’s unclear if she will maintain a separate residence or move in with the bunch. Previews made it appear that some structural changes were taking place within the home so perhaps they are adding on in multiple ways!

        No mention was made of public assistance. Hubby sells advertising. I have to wonder what his employer thinks of his lifestyle arrangement.

        The previous three wives married him prior to the birth of any children so they have all been accustomed to having more than one mother figure and siblings by different mothers. It has been 16 years since hubby went sought out new candidates so this will be a major adjustment for women/kids alike.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Dawn –I watched it too. I found it interesting and also liked the bond between the wives. I didn’t like the husband too much, especially at the end when he wanted to introduce the new girlfriend.

      • Dawn says:

        Yes, the new wife aspect changes the (all ready shocking) dynamic, doesn’t it? Just when you begin to acclimate to the arrangement, the pot is stirred.

        Ultimately, I decided that I’m too jealous to share no matter the benefit of doing so.

        • vilzvet says:

          I tuned in because my well-respected NY paper gave it like 4 stars. Anyway, don’t know what to say! What an arrangement. As far as public assistance, no way Jose! Did you get a load of that mansion? They’re well off. The dad seems to have no problem providing for all those children. Bless the soul of that oldest son who takes care of his siblings when his mom goes off to work at the crack of dawn, the mom who said she much prefers to work anyway. I was surprised that his only legal wife has just the one daughter, while the others have a passel of kids each. Next week looks totally interesting as this guy decides that he needs yet another wife to bring into the fold.

          • MAMAZ says:

            But Vilzvet if we’ve learned anything from reality TV it’s that you can live in a mansion and be $11 million dollars in debt. In other words things are often not what they seem.

            • vilzvet says:

              (Smacking forehead!) Oh right, duh!! Hey, let’s all remember that Juicy Joe is still in jail, small blessings. The roads of NJ are safe tonight.

          • AZ Girl says:

            Many of the bigamist Mormons are on government assistance. They probably do not pay income tax due to the assistance. What needs to be focused on is what is going happen to their daughters? Will they be sealed in marriage off at the age of 14 to an Elder? This is nothing to admire. Look at Colorado City, Utah. Young boys driven out of the the compounds so that the older men can have their pick of the young women.

    • error404 says:

      Oh no! I missed it! I will have to catch up on reruns or downloads. 😦

  34. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi E Bee want to go off line. I do Lynn can hook us up.

  35. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi canada
    What r u up to out in the wild ?

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      Not much WSL…but I’m not quite in the wild here either. I have to laugh at some of my American friends and their perception of Canada…I live in the most southern part of Ontario, and I’m still south of many places including you New Yorkers up there, yet when I have friends over from the US, they immediately ask me how cold it is “up here” and think they have to wear parkas and mukluks in Sept… LOL

  36. jean says:

    Still a Wallflower. Bless your heart, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

  37. jean says:

    crazy kelly is up to the copycat bs today. after betheny tweeted a photo of herself and bryn at home, so does no life kelly.

  38. Speaking-of The Amazing Race, I just now saw on the news, an open casting-call for people to be on the show. They are having a casting call in Atlantic City this week, Wednesday the 29th, from 2-6pm in the Ballroom, at Resorts casino
    That’s the link to the casting-call, where they say that hopefuls will be asked to
    Answer on video, “Why do you want to be on The Amazing Race?”
    They also advise filling-out the THIRTEEN-page application, in advance, although they will have them available.

    Click to access Application_Form.pdf

    Here are two questions that I copied from the application:

    If given the choice, would you rather compete with 10 other people for $1,000,000 or split the million and give everyone $100,000 each? Why?

    Do you have a valid US Passport? If so, how many blank Visa pages do you have?

    It was a pretty interesting application.
    I have never used a Passport before, so I don’t have any idea what they mean by blank Visa pages? Is there a limit? An open call for Jersey Shore in AC last Spring drew a disappointing number of people, (100), so if anyone is interested, this might be a good opportunity. If anyone wants to fly to AC, Spirit Air flies to the airport.
    If anyone is going to this-if you want to have lunch let me know, I could meet you there.

    • TEB says:

      Holy Crap!! My Dream Team of IHJZ could become a reality!! Thanks HousewifeHater!! OK- who’s in?

      • TEB says:

        Oh- and HWH- a passport comes as a ‘book’ with several blank pages. Each time you enter a new country, you get a stamp on a blank page. I’m sure they want to make sure you have enough blank pages to complete the race.

        • TEB- I don’t have a passport-I don’t even have the spare 75 or hundred that it costs to get one, but if no one else wants to try-out & you do, I could be your partner. Some of the stunts on that show are really really hard, so if someone else really wants to be on it, I would (rather) love to root for you.
          “Met on I Hate Jill Zarin Blog”-would drive Jill nuts, that’s for sure.

          • TEB says:

            HWH- I love the idea but I have a few reasons I can’t do it: a 3yr old, a 1yr old, a husband and a full-time job that would not permit me to be gone that long (I’d be there the whole time…. I’m in-it-to-win-it!!) I LOVE the idea of ‘we met on a blog’. I would imagine producers would find that interesting as well…….

            • OK-that lets you off the hook- toddler plus full-time job, actually Amazing Race would be a vacation for you.
              The more that I think about it, the more that I think that that is one of the only shows that I would ever go on, I think I could get in the top 5, but there is some luck involved-so that’s a factor also.
              The downside to that show is that unlike the Housewives shows, I don’t think that they put anything into hair, make-up & styling, which is good in some ways, but in some ways I think they want people to look a little rough.
              My offer still stands if anyone needs a partner,-there is no way that I would go with anyone in my family, getting away from them would be part of the fun of going. My best friend finally got busy at work so she’s out too.

              • Adgirl says:

                I’m in if I don’t have to eat anything with more than 4 legs or something that has no legs.
                I’m not crazy about climbing on top of skyscraper antennas either.
                Outside of that I’m all for shaving my head or counting bells, rolling out hay, dancing whatever.

                Whomever I go with has to agree to read the clue card 2x silently and 2x aloud.

  39. Wall St Lady says:

    Yes I mean u. Lynn can give u my email u already have my work email u little star detective. I already feel u r a soul mate.

  40. Adgirl says:

    Keep or split $1 million -They want to know if you are competive enough to go for it.
    Passport – They want to know how comfortable you might be overseas?
    Ahem …. Team Tattoo.

  41. Wall St Lady says:

    Of Of ourse I mean u. Who else is my jazz & lab buddy !
    U ROCK !

    • Ellabean says:


      Now, our dear WSL, cheese louise, you are in PB for goodness sake – are you doing some fun things? Running with some movers and shakers ? Sunning in a big movie star hat on the beach ? Oogling a gorgeous cabana dude? Eating some giant Fla. crab claws? Inquring minds want to know. Share away.

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      Geez by the time I get to reply there’s umpteen posts to catch up on but anyway this is for you WSL

      cdnfillie58 says:
      September 27, 2010 at 6:39 pm

      Not much WSL…but I’m not quite in the wild here either. I have to laugh at some of my American friends and their perception of Canada…I live in the most southern part of Ontario, and I’m still south of many places including you New Yorkers up there, yet when I have friends over from the US, they immediately ask me how cold it is “up here” and think they have to wear parkas and mukluks in Sept… LOL

  42. kats2 says:

    Hi! Just popping in to say hi and hope everyone is doing great!!!
    Hope to be back soon.

    • quincyil says:

      Cat is sharing in the article and she said the marriage was almost done when they started shooting. I guess that is why she was so upset all season one. He seemed like a nice guy. She was unhappy being dumped in Chevy Chase with poo package carrying neighbors dressed in spandex.

      Now, why in heaven’s name is she moving back to DC to film a second season? I guess she wants the fame because the pay is awful.

      • emt2 says:

        Why go on a reality tv show when your marriage is rocky? I don’t understand.

        • quincyil says:

          I think she had the tell all book in the back of her mind. In one of the articles on line, she states that Charles’s supervisor at Newsweek introduced her to the show with the permission of Charles, who no doubt had never watched an American reality show.

  43. vilzvet says:

    FYI, Lynn, it is 17 seasons of Amazing Race, which is actually not 17 years. It started in 2001, and they average two cycles per year. Gorgeous Phil is now 43 and definitely looks exactly the same.

  44. Wall St Lady says:

    I am on the ocean. Love Love Love the ocean. I swim like a fish. I always wear a hat. I am at home tonite ; rather b
    Want to see Palin child. She looks pregnant. People mag says she got new boobs ; B to D

  45. error404 says:

    interesting exhibition for those in NYC area


    check it out if you can

  46. Wall St Lady says:

    Katie on September 27, 2010 at 7:03 pm
    No like the S & P it is pure statistics

  47. HD says:

    I know this is mainly about reality shows but is anyone watching The Event with Blair-so damn sexy should have been my husband-Underwood? 🙂

    • error404 says:

      We’re currently watching: Weeds, Dexter, EastEnders, Thintervention, Top Chef: Just Deserts, Flipping Off, and Project Runway

      • error404 says:

        Oh, and Modern Family

        • HD says:

          I can’t seem to get into Thintervention, I kept forgetting when Project Runway came on so sometimes I catch it sometimes I don’t. (I love that show though)

          I am watching The Event, Bad Girls Club (I know. I know. Its a train wreck I can’t pull away from). I will watch Real Housewives of Atlanta. That’s about it for my regular shows. I am trying to get into The Boardwalk I think it is but I can’t get into it.

    • quincyil says:

      I do love Blair… So..you have first dibs…. I’m second.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Does he get better with age or what!?

    • kmuellfa says:

      I had Blair Underwood as a passenger once. He literally took my breath away. It should be illegal to be that good looking in person. He seemed really nice too, polite and charming. When he smiled at me my knees buckled. He’s shorter than you’d think, but who freaking cares.

  48. TEB says:

    Thanks to all my Lynn Family folks! I appreciate you letting me comment when I can. If I don’t respond to you it’s because I was called away by a young child, a husband or a job. I try and read every post but I get behind (somehow….). Forgive me if I miss your response or question.

    • Katie says:

      I think you may need to set your priorities straight. Husband, young children, career??? These are the worst excuses I have ever heard. Afterall if Teresa can cook spaghettios, coordinate her kid’s headbands, meet her inexplicably loyal fans, make sure her faux marble is alls cleansy, all without help then anything os possible. Of course now that juicy is in the clink, she must have hours to devote
      to something other than humping Joe.

  49. Sha2000 says:

    The silk screen was by another artist:

  50. Wall St Lady says:

    Katie on September 27, 2010 at 7:45 p
    No no r making it too difficult. The calculation is easy’ gathering the info is hard.

    I am watching Dancing w/ the Stara”. My 1st time watching it. M Gorilla would b fun to laugh at. She would me out 1st cut.

    • Katie says:

      Making a fist and saying “Newman!”

      I thought I figured out the mystery. I was trying to verify with you covertly but maybe that is complicating matters more than necessary. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

      • Ellabean says:

        “Jerry” …Grrrrrr

      • quincyil says:

        She looks like wonder woman. Google her name and group to see that she is absolutely as beautiful as Lynda Carter. Wow…

        A very young… 57 year old…it must be the hats.

      • quincyil says:

        She looks like wonder woman. Google her name and group to see that she is absolutely as beautiful as Lynda Carter. Wow…

        A very young… 57 year old…it must be the hats.

  51. error404 says:

    OMG! That RHOOC woman took a private chef to a pot luck! Hahahahahahah

  52. Sha2000 says:

    Wow scary story, I don’t know if this has been posted:

    • error404 says:

      unfortunately yes, that story had it’s 15 minutes a few months back.

    • Katie says:

      Fortunately Alexis was equipped with floatation devices.

    • winatlife says:

      This is the first time I’ve read this story. Thank goodness, the girls were okay, and I do believe the Bellino story even though I am non-commital about how I feel about them. Great response reflex and the girls are fine.

      The real story for me was, Alexis is 32??? I thought she was at least 45. What exactly is Botox doing for her? Is it too much sun? I never go tanning (natural melanin), so I do wonder why such healthy, slim women look so old on the Housewives? I have many neighbors here in the North suburbs of Chicago who are quite a bit older, but look almost a decade younger.

  53. LynnNChicago says:

    I’m looking for someone who’s been following the Real Housewives of Atlanta during the “off season” to write a preview blog for RHOA. I had an expert lined up but she had some personal issues and wasn’t able to do it.

    I’ve been hearing bits and pieces of what the Atlanta ladies are up to but I’ve not followed it closely enough so if anyone has been following them and is interested in writing a preview blog for Atlanta, please let me know. Thanks!


    • quincyil says:

      If you don’t get an experct, I can do some research and report back. I was following them for a while right after the show. They were just everywhere for a long time.

      It’s easy to google and read…

    • HD says:

      I’ve been keeping up with them, Lynn so if you would like to write a preview I can have it to you tomorrow.

      • HD says:

        I meant “if you would like me to write a preview…”

        But Quincy can write one or whatever is clever. 🙂

      • LynnNChicago says:

        HD – Oh I love you! That would be so great, there’s no hurry, I just wanted to post a preview – sort of highlighing what’s gone on since last season ended and maybe a few words introducing the two new ladies?

        Anytime before the premier Monday would be fine! THANK YOU HD!!! Love you!

        Quincy – all info is great, please do!

  54. TLM says:

    Well, it finally happened this week. I took Bethenny off my Facebook friends list, as well as Naturally Thin and Skinnygirl Dish. And I haven’t even been on Twitter in weeks, which she constantly posts to. I’m sure that with over 400K friends on FB, I will hardly be missed. I just got sick of hearing about every little thing she’s doing and every show or appearance she’s going to make. Yes, I know — “that’s the whole point of Facebook, you idiot,” I’m sure people are wanting to tell me. I don’t hate B at all — in fact, I own 2 of her books AND her audio book, and I may still get her yoga DVD. I am just Bethenny-ed out at the moment. I think “I hit the wall going 90” (her words) when I saw her photo of herself this morning looking as homely as she could possibly make herself, way too thin (several people made this observation and a Facebook war ensued) and almost being proud of looking so bad in her living room, and also talking about how her apt. looks like a yard sale even after cleaning. We get it, Bethenny, you aren’t always in full hair and makeup, and you aren’t necessarily a diva. But do you have to go so out of your way all the time to prove to everyone that you’re “just folks”? It might not grate on me so much if I hadn’t been suckered in by the “Hey guys!” tweets of hers that just turned out to be things she was paid to plug.

    I figure I can always come back when I feel like it and Julie or an assistant du jour will add me. I guess I could have just hidden the posts, but somehow deleting her from my list felt cathartic. Maybe I am just “housewived out”. B was the only housewife from any of the franchises who I followed on FB.

    So, why am I sharing all this? Am I seeking approval? Wondering if others feel the same? Maybe a little. I don’t know about everyone else, but when I heard there would be a Season 2 of BGM (or whatever they’re calling it) part of me thought, oh no. I was barely tuning in for the last few episodes, and I think I saw them here and there in pieces. Another whole season? There is no wedding or pregnancy drama, so what is going to make people tune in? Will we be following B from appearance to appearance? Watching her argue with Jason? Test out another intern? Cook some new recipes in her kitchen? I just don’t know if that’s enough to make me want to tune in.

    Look, I’m not naive enough to think my seal of approval or not is going to matter one bit, and B will always be a success. But I do wonder when things will start to die down for her, and I think that wouldn’t be a bad thing. She once said she was choosing projects very carefully because she only wanted to do things that furthered her position in food and health, but she’s been hawking everything from drugstore.com to bluefly.com. And is she still doing the skincare line? I think maybe she has lost her focus, and that the Skinnygirl is spreading herself too thin, in more ways that one.

    • error404 says:

      Is she the only thing you follow? I follow her too on FB, but with all of the other stuff I follow, not to mention the friends and family who post stupid stuff, she gets lost in it all. Compared to my SIL’s poor grammar, she’s a cake walk! lol

      I did raise an eyebrow at that pic today, so not surprised it was the straw that broke your camel’s back, but I never bother to read the fan comments.

      I’m not worried about the plot to BGM?2 because no HW show ever had a plot or even a thin excuse for a plot, so she should be ok. Love her, hate her, just be over her, but she did get successful in record time and it would be interesting if the show focused on the way it all gets done.

      • TLM says:

        I follow a bunch of businesses and people on FB but am always weeding things out when my interest wanes. I guess I didn’t think B would ever be one to get cut from the list. It isn’t my goal to have a list of friends and likes longer than maybe 50. On Twitter I only follow maybe 20 people. Otherwise it just gets unwieldy for me.

    • Olivia says:

      It is over saturation to be sure. And with so many of them out there they become almost interchangeable after awhile. I lost count of the number of “Housewives” but it is close to 20.

      It will be interesting to see how much of this intrusion Jason will go along with. If she has too much pressure put on her she reacts very strongly and that is not a good thing.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Well said TLM I agree.

    • nathania says:

      I’m sure her assistant is in charge of posting all her events to facebook and twitter and she might have a personal one now and then, but she is probably on there less than one might be led to believe.

    • quincyil says:

      I think she is thin and has no muscle tone too. She mentioned that she didn’t have time for yoga often. I think she’s not eating. Remember, this is a girl whose mother and grandfather told her, “fat is not an option.” Bethenny admits to having an eating disorder for years until she found her method. I think she still has that eating disorder.

      I think we all have problems with food and exercise.

      I watched “Thintervension” early this morning and have my notes. One person here asked me about avacadoes and I said they were high in fat. They are on Jackie’s good food list because she actually likes the fats in the avocado.
      There were not on the list that I received from my nutritionist or in my old Weight Watchers pamplets. I need to read Jackie’s book on this issue and will report back. Lots of information abut her method and the numbers crunch to come later today.

      Since a lot of us have Bethenny’s books. Book reviews could be interesting for our group and that helps fill our lonely hours without Jill in North America.

      Like Rachel Zoe, Bethenny was worred about getting fat during the pregnancy. She said it on the floor of the bathroom after the pee stick test. Bethenny is the same damaged child that grew up alone with an abusive alcoholic mom. She may seem to be on top of the world, but I bet she is afraid that she will fall off the wall like Humpty Dumpty.

      LOL… see why I watch these shows, I am allowed to observe Humans as if they were in a zoo.

      My “Thintervension” post will come in the afternoon as I have a lot to do here this morning.

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        very interesting insights-you don’t miss a trick do you!

        Avocados are good for your skin, so I eat them. My mother used to call them “poor man’s butter” because where she grew up in Calif., when the “Oakies” came from the dust bowl in the 30’s, all they would have was a hunk of bread- they would find some wild avocados, add a little salt and pepper and that would be their lunch and often dinner.

      • TLM says:

        I don’t think B was worried about getting fat after her test… she was just freaked out generally by being pregnant and was asking her friend, “what do I do now?”Her friend was the one who said, “Get a big jiggly belly”. I think B was actually excited about that.

        I don’t know what her story is now, but undoubtedly there is a lot of pressure when your brand is called “Skinnygirl” to stay skinny. As much as she tells people not to stress about food, I think she has obsessed over it more than she admits. I didn’t like the message it sent that she was posing for US magazine in a red bathing suit just a couple of weeks after pregnancy. She kept saying she didn’t “do” anything to lose the weight – so then why do a story like that? Why appear like it was some kind of accomplishment when it wasn’t the result of hard work? It sent the exact opposite message of the one she says she wants to send.

        B has a face that naturally seems to look very drawn. I actually liked the way she looked at the beginning of the pregnancy when her face first started to swell. It actually looked better! Unfortunately the swelling got out of control, but I always thought she would look better if she had fillers of some kind. Right now her eyes look sunken and she looks almost skeletal. That isn’t the picture of health.

        Onto Thintervention… Jackie said avocados are great, but she didn’t say you’re only supposed to have a tiny amount at a time. She also said, the dark, dense bread was great, but dark, dense bread also packs a lot of calories. I am sure the British woman is not just eating one slice or a half-slice of these things.

        Last night, I was wondering if Jackie was trying to kill these people. Why did they need to dress up in heavy, smelly firefighters’ suits? They would have gotten the same benefits just running around and doing the same things without it being risky. The guy they did the EKG on was just lucky. Things could have been far worse. I think Jackie pushes too hard. If that guy had had a heart attack, she probably would have told him he should have told her it was too much for him. But if he said it was too much, she would have said he wasn’t trying hard enough. I hate that crap.

    • winatlife says:

      I just realized I should probably change my blog name… I’m a second time poster here, first was to give my condolences to Wallflower (the real one).

      I have to agree with this post about Bethenny. Still love her to pieces, and hope she has the common sense to leave “reality TV” on top, vs. going out in flames like Jill Zarin has.

      Her brand stands on it’s own. I guess we will watch what happens.

  55. TLM says:

    *more ways THAN one. Damn those typos!!!

  56. error404 says:

    What I love about Jeff is how he says the most idiotic things like they mean something serious.

    Sarah makes more mistakes than anyone in the office? Hahahahahahaha
    She’s I believe his ONLY full time employee.

    Jenni may be full time too maybe, but she’s older and has been working with Jeff for years, so he’s an idiot to even compare them.

    The twink is part time, and Jett and Zoila aren’t “in the business”.. they’re the cleaing staff.

    So, out of 3 whole people, two of whom she may work twice as many hours as, she makes the most mistakes? Duh. And…. what does that mean. Jenni made 1 mistake this month, the twink 2 and Sarah made 3? Hahahah and that doesn’t include what we all know from watching the show: a “mistake” for Jeff may be something like “she was breathing audibly when I was in a bad mood over some big fuck-up I did”.

  57. anotherlynn says:

    Hi. This is my second time posting, although I have been reading and loving this blog for a long time. I found this blog because I was so frustrated with JZ and felt sure there were other people that felt like I did. I am so glad this blog exists and enjoy all the people that post.

    I think I have finally figured out WSL’s identity. I would never divulge. WSL were you married in an episcopal church? Just wondering. Thanks.

  58. Cheri says:

    I’m not sure if this has been posted but there is a picture of Alex mccord and Daniell’s dtr Chritine inthe Life & Style mag dated oct 4th. It’s from their fashion week pics. Christine looks so pretty. I didn’t recognize Alex

  59. Olivia says:

    I should have been another Nancy Grace.

    It was something that was said by Jill at the reunion show when she was challenged for not allowing Bethenny to apologize to her in Ramona’s apartment that day and she came up with the excuse that “it was Ali’s first day of her last year of high school”
    and she was emotional. She even looked to Lu Ann for validation because she said how she mentioned this to Lu Ann.

    If that was true then the whole season was filmed totally out of sequence. The reason I mention this is that the first day of school in most districts is the first, and possibly, second week of September. But they had already been shown in scenes of their attendance at the NY Fashion shows – 2 that Lu Ann, Jill and Bethenny all attended – where Bethenny was rebuffed by Jill and where at one she had called Lu Ann a “snake”. The NY Fashion Week is always scheduled for the second week of September, usually around the 16th. Those episodes had been shown prior to Bethenny coming to Ramona’s apartment to work out the differences with Jill. Lu Ann was still smarting over the “snake” comment so how could that be happening the same day that Jill dropped Ali off at school for “her last first day of high school”? The dates don’t add up.

    My point being that there seems to be some maneuvering going on to “heighten” the drama. Supposing that Jill was correct in the date itself then the NY Fashion Show had yet to be filmed. If that were the case then Bethenny had yet to be rebuffed by Jill at the fashion show and that scene at Ramona’s was “inserted”. It is also possible that Jill was lying to save her soul and used Ali’s school as a defense of her own behavior. It is just that the excuse seems to have more substance since she was pointing out something other than she “was having a bad day” which she uses more often to hide her transgressions. This time she managed to pinpoint an event.

    I was reminded of this episode since we know that Jill is on her way to Australia at the same time that the NY series is in production. It just makes me think that her scenes can be inserted into the series without worrying too much about the continuity of the storyline. Some of this became apparent when Caroline met with Danielle sometime around the holidays where that episode was played as part of the finale following the trip to Italy.

    I could be 100% wrong in my assessment but if you take that comment and try to place it within the timeframe of what was going on while factoring in the Fall Fashion show of 2009, the dates and times stick out.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I think you are right. I’m sure they film & film & film some more & try to build something that’s drama.

    • cusi77 says:

      ” It is also possible that Jill was lying to save her soul and used Ali’s school as a defense of her own behavior. It is just that the excuse seems to have more substance since she was pointing out something other than she “was having a bad day” which she uses more often to hide her transgressions. This time she managed to pinpoint an event.”

      Olivia_ I am going for this explanation. Because the scene at Ramona’s was when Bethenny came back from LA (where her father refuse to see her) the very same day (She was wearing the same clothes) when she met Alex and told her about both rejections. B most have been already pregnant. She told JZ there were going some things happening in her life, when the “Tea” committee interrupt the conversation… Clearly it was by the end of Sep, Beginning of October. Jill WAS , IS and always BE a liar! And will put her daughter as an excuse for her bad behavior to save her own flugly image!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      The scene in Ramona’s apartment was filmed the same day B was handing out Pepperidge Farm Deli Flats sandwiches: October 7, 2009.


  60. anotherlynn says:

    That’s funny Sha2000. It has taken me days and weeks to figure this out and I may be wrong. Regardless, WSL does seem like a nice person.

    • cusi77 says:

      Boston_ How was your job today? Did you find another envelope around? LOL.

      • boston02127 says:

        cusi–hi & good morning, sorry I logged off last night before seeing your post. Yes, I worked yesterday morning. I went in about 20 minutes early so I could get down and get out. Everything went ok.

  61. lillybee says:

    Many private schools start much later than public schools.

  62. JKW says:

    Is anyone still awake ?

  63. Wall St Lady says:

    Those pictures r old !
    U r so nice to care
    I am not hiding. U can’t when u have a business web site w/all ur info on it.
    I was around for the EFHutton Boom Boom room Class Action Suit I was the largest producer that sued. At first I said why would I want to b in the suit , I am one of the most successful women at EFH they have ade me. So they asked if I would take a survey to help others. By the forth ? I was crying. It was like learning ur Uncle had molested u & u hadn’t known his behavior wasn’t OK. So I joined. When my case was reviewed the EFH lawyers were very mean manly women. WSM was w/me of course. I got a settlement which had to b confidential. At one time when a particularly mean lawyer made some comment about my success I Yelled at her :
    Hey just like incest
    just because I survived doesn’t make it right.
    We could have not settled that day & gotten more but we didn’t want to spend more than the 2 days we did. We gave the $$ to charity & EFH tried to control who we donated to. My attitude was $crew u ;try & stop me from giving to who we choose !

    Discrimination in any form $ucks. T he problem litigation is expensive & sucks the life out of u.

    • Kat says:

      Good morning WSL. Glad to read you had the chance to enjoy the ocean.
      Sorry to read about your treatment from EF Hutton.

  64. JKW says:

    Hi Kat…sorry no one answered so I left for a while.

  65. Wall St Lady says:

    TLM on September 27, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    I couldn’t agree more. I just have watched other Bethany types.
    I may b wrong but I saw her b mean behind several cast member’s backs & I hate
    “2 Faced” behavior.
    I did love lots of her comments particularly calling ill :fog Horn.
    She did all that bathroom stuff for attention & I wonder how she tops that. It won’t b a porn movie cuz she already did that.
    Yes I am being a little bit of a mean girl. Sorry !

    • One thing that I like about Bethenny is that she owns what she does. That nasty comment about Luann? “Big Dumb Drag Queen”-She took it back basically. I loved her excuse too, that she only said it for purposes of alliteration .And she even threw Kelly a bone when she revealed what “satchels of gold” meant.
      I don’t know about JZ? She hasn’t said anything nasty about her, but hasn’t sent-out an olive-branch either. I think that she should keep it that way.
      The one thing that I think that Bethenny is making a mistake about is her relationship with her mom-but them I don’t really know what all happened there.
      Right now Bethenny has paid employees to help her, so she doesn’t really need her mom like most new mothers do, but I was sad when she passed on the opportunity to make-up with her.

  66. JKW says:

    Probably should sleep too but I am not very tired right now.

    • Kat says:

      I’ve always been a night owl. I always worked 2nd or 3rd shift out of choice.
      But I took some pain meds and a muscle relaxant and think the drugs are winning.

      • quincyil says:

        Are you having a lot of pain? A number of spas have massage therapists now. You can go for one half hour. My brother was in pain and I bought a number of sessions and gave it to him. The girl really helped him.

  67. Wall St Lady says:

    I know who u r married to. He is famous.

    Thank u for saying I look like Wonder Woman. It is my favorite compliment. When I student taught in college my 3rd graders said that so I dressed as WW for Halloween & did for years.
    She was singing at a club in NYC & WSM sweetly offered to buy tickets. For some reason I preferred to keep Lynda Carter in hot pants & gold bracelets & said : no thank u.
    Normally he surprises me w/tickets ;I glad he didn’t.
    She reminds me w/her small waist & big boobs of the pastors daughter who was on SNL last weekend.
    Oh well.
    Thanks for the memory !

    • quincyil says:

      Famous here. LOL. Lots of awards.

      In Iran, the whole nation takes a test to get into college. The person with the highest score chooses first. In that entire nation, he was first. He was first in med school too. All three of our kids are geniuses with IQ’s in the 180s. I taught discipline, he gave those genes. When they were in high school our Scholastic Bowl team won in IL and in the nationals in Disney World. The trivia knowledge came from MOM too. LOL…

      • Quincyil—-I really need you as my partner in The Amazing Race!
        I’m not implying anything, but I have to wonder if there is much cheating with such high-stakes testing?
        I guess the penalty for getting caught would be decapitation or something though?

      • Sha2000 says:

        Bet he’s got a good sense of humor, Persians usually do.

  68. JKW says:

    Same here…I am not a morning person. Would rather stay up all night then get up very early.

    • Kat says:

      When ever I’d have a morning appt to go to or important errand to run in the morning I’d always be up all night worrying that I’d oversleep and miss the appt. I love the night. It’s a great time to take walks and sky watch. I used to listen to Coasttocoastam but fell out of the habit.

      • JKW says:

        I thought you went to bed so I logged off. It’s tough to tell if anyone is actually here. I do the same thing…do a countdown. Ok in 6 hrs I have to get up….ok now it’s 5 …ok now it’s 3…oh hell may as well get up now. I usually fall into a deep sleep about an hour or so before I have to get up…then I feel like crap all day.

  69. Wall St Lady says:

    By anotherlynn on September 27, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    Yes & on Halloween !
    WSM asked me to marry him on our 4th date. It had taken him 4 months for me to go on a date w/him. He was so handsome & sexy I figured he was just looking for another notch in his belt.When we dated he was Pres. Of a bank so by NY law he had a guard w/a gun w/us. I stopped worrying about the notch ,ha ha.
    Anyway to get a 5th or Park Ave. Church u have to reserve 1yr in advance but no one wanted Halloween. I also liked the Church’s Halloween decorations. Just Kidding.
    We r married w/no children 😦 but r still CRAZY 4 each other !
    I pray love for all of U !!!
    The greatest gift the Lord has given to me is WSM. If he passes ahead of me ,I would NEVER want another husband but I would get another dog & let it sleep w/ me

    • Diana says:

      Hi WSL I posted this to you earlier:

      WSL, I finally found you! You are not only the “real deal”, you are gorgeous!
      I miss Squirrels too. Sigh.

      Now to that I want to add that I saw a snap of your husband! Growwwl! What a hunk of a hubby! You must be a very happy woman. It comes through in your posts.

      • 2Stupid says:

        Ok this is so unfair. I know I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I have tried every clue that you guys have left. I thought I could give up my little obsession, but the more people reveal they have uncovered the mystery, the more jazzed I get about figuring it out again. I feel like the girl that hasn’t been invited to sit at the cool girls table at lunch. I will now be looking for a Linda Carter look alike. That should be easy to Google- LOL.

  70. Lynn-whatever you did to comments on Blogger, it is now working for me.

  71. WSL—-Is your formula an asset allocation formula? I think it was the one that I was taught 20 or so years ago, and the funny thing is that I used it for retirement accounts for casino dealers. If they listed to the formula, (ha ha-I tried to tell them to put 100% in the safe funds-but they were gamblers at heart and wanted high-risk), they are thanking me now. Some of them are now seeing my name on forms that they filled-out 20 some years ago and they said they are thinking of naming a room after me!

  72. anotherlynn says:

    Thanks WSL for the answer. I think I do know who you are and I agree that you look like Wonder Woman. I don’t tend to read blogs , but I have been hooked on this one because everyone is intelligent and thoughtful with their comments. Not only that, but I hate Jill Zarin. Bye for now. Off to work.

  73. Wall St Lady says:

    HoudewifeHater my invention is not an allocation formula. But there is nothing more important than proper diversification in a investment portfolio. You should never have more than a maximum of 20% of any one investment. Moat of the folks who had Madoff broke that rule % had 80- 100% ! Most broke the diversification rule. Many times particularly in PB WSM & I advised potential clients (that we never got as clients) that they were over allocated to Madoff. But it could have been Citi bank or Google. Unless u r in ur 20s & can tolerate a 20% plus loss then u can take more risk w/ the idea u have time to recover the $$ No matter what must diversify unless u r in the lowest risk like Treasures or CDs. When retired the growth part of ur investments is over except for maximum of 20% but even then only if u could survive w/o it. Don’t lend to grandkids unless u could afford to give it as a gift.
    Lecture for the day but I am the diversification POLICE !

    • Kansas Girl says:

      (avid lurker, but seldom post)
      Thanks, WSL! A good reminder to ask some questions on my next visit with my adviser. You can talk all sex-ay about finances any time, in my book! (That’s supposed to be funny, but it’s hard to type funny.)

  74. boston02127 says:

    Good morning. If anyone cares: Bethenny & Caroline will be on the The Nate Berkus Show.

  75. boston02127 says:

    Have a good day everyone.

  76. Wall St Lady says:

    I am not having a good day cuz
    Stink o JO is out of jail. Only good thing is we know since they have to pay $12000 to have a child no more little Gorillas will be punished by having Jo & Teresa as uhhhh parents. How about zoo keepers !

  77. 2Stupid says:

    Oh grand day, I finally cracked. I have my list of all my clues and it all adds up! I can finally get some work done. Thanks to all who gave your little hints along the way. I would love to say I am a contemporary, but my firm’s assets under management are considerably less. I did mention before my BIL is part of the legal counsel for Phillip Falcone’s Harbinger fund. Enjoy your time in PB and know that I am very honored to enjoy your presence here. It makes me feel a little like I am not the only person that uses my spare time watching shows that encompass everything that is wrong with America. I guess I’ll go back to primarily lurking now. I really enjoy all the posts here. This is my first blog!

  78. icantstandthetoxicity says:
    • vilzvet says:

      Interesting, I wonder how exactly they’re related and why is there yet another family member she doesn’t get along with! I for one adore all cousins, we hang out as friends all the time. But then again this is Teresa we’re talking about!

  79. Molly says:

    I started reading this blog in early summer b/c Jill Zarin had really upset me-she thinks she’s great but her words and actions hurt people very badly. She targets vulnerable people who in her mind are less than her. In her mind she has to be better than others. That’s a narcissist ! And my mother seemed to relate to me that way as I was growing up,so I was bothered by Jill. I’ve wondered how many people writing in have been hurt by narcissistic behaviors of other people in their lives. You feel tricked,they’re getting away w bad behavior b/c lots of people can’t see the pattern of what they are doing.

    • Molly-when I was breaking-up with my future-ex i decided that he had a lot of Narcissistic tendencies-but he leaned more towards pathological liar. The sad thing is that there is no, (successful), treatment for those kind of disorders, or personality disorders. I found-out that personality disorders are different from mental illnesses, even though they look alike.
      They do have therapy for personality disorders, but usually the family or the targets/survivors, (I don’t like using the word victim), are the ones who end-up needing the therapy. In mental illnesses, even though they could look more serious than the disorders, a lot of times they can be treated with meds.
      Yeah-I could see Jill fitting the profile. So sad that you would have to have a mom with those traits. The way that you put it, I have heard of this kind of treatment before, but I never thought of it as narcissism. I thought it was more like jealousy, but I think you might be on to something there?
      All of the reality fame~whores must have a touch of narcissism? Jill reminds me of The White-House impostors when I think of the story that Kathy Griffin told about her talking her way into Kathy’s backstage dressing room when Kathy really needed to rest between shows. (she didn’t care that Kathy needed her rest, she wanted to feel important).

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      I agree with you about Jill. I have encountered a few “Jills” in my life and that is why I have such a negative reaction towards her. I can’t believe I actually liked her the first two seasons. I should have seen the signs from the beginning.

  80. Molly says:

    It took me a very long time to see the traits in my mother. Oh I would complain about how unfair she was at times-I was vocal about that. But it was too painful to face that she needed (unconsciously) to put me down ,betray me in order to feel okay. People who were narcissists kept coming into my life so that I could finally see. The thing that hurt even more was that other people couldn’t see that these people were hurtful. Family members Looove my mother and go on and on about her,-same way with the friends with the traits,other people thought they were wonderful . That’s why it was helpful to read in the blog that people knew Jill was not coming from a good place even though she made excuses and sugar-coated things,she did not have the capacity to really care about Bethanny in a consistent way. She would always be competitive with her. So it was healing to have many people on to the fact that Jill was very harmful. It made me feel validated and made my world seem more sane.

  81. quincyil says:

    Thintervension Week Four

    Jackie Warner likes titles for her workouts so she has two this week: “Chase the burn” (hint, hint… my secret…wink, wink) and “ Finding your Inner Warrior.” Brian, a member of the group who happens to be gay, calls his inner warrior, Ethel.

    Yippee, we get to see the intelligent and beautiful Kara Keough from OC. Kara sees right through her mother’s stated reasons for having a low weight loss. We all know you are cheating Jenna. Kara reads her mom’s text message and the work out site of the week is Magnolia Park.

    The team members go back to basic training or circuit training, but first a valuable lesson for anyone who works out in parks (like myself) avoid dog poop because some women in spandex don’t actually put the dog poop in the tiny plastic bags and carry it around.
    The second lesson is sprinting and then weight training burns a lot more calories than running for the same amount of time. The large muscles of the thighs and legs are the big calorie burners and pushing hard, then resting, then pushing hard really melts the over all body fat. Done correctly, a similar workout for me would burn between 500 to 700 calories. Later in the show, Jackie notes that the range of calories for the cast is between 1300 to 1500.

    Done incorrectly, your name is Jeana Keough, the calories used is much less. Many members of the team are having both physical and mental struggles with the process. We are starting to have more muscle and joint injuries. The track was a sand track and that requires the proper shoes because when you run, you ankles can turn with the sand. You burn more calories on loose gravel or sand, but injuries happen too. It’s a toss up.

    Field Trip timeand it’s an place that Jeana has never been: a grocery store. Jeana is amazed that there are lanes filled with green things in what she learns is called the produced section. Jeana picked up dried figs (250 calories a serving… which is one half of the calories in one of her meals,) and cut fruit in a cup with sugar added (try to cut up your own,) Jenna doesn’t shop or cook. Jenna has people who shop and cook for her. (We knew that, didn’t we?)

    The good food choices are heavy, dark, nutty breads (those can be 100 or more calories,) tomatoes, clams, almonds, and one avocado per day. Here’s the scoop on avocados (one person here asked me earlier and I only considered the high fat and high calories of the fruit. There are 384 Calories In One Cup Of Avocado “Avocados, despite being high in fat are very good for you, and have many health promoting properties. The fat in avocado is primarily monounsaturated, and has been shown in studies to lower bad cholesterol, and raise good cholesterol.” One avocado can go up to 300 calories according to another source.
    Jackie includes the avocado in her hormone balancing/detox fats on page 77 of her book: This is why you are fat!” In the show, she told Nikki that she could eat an avocado per day, but in the book one serving is ¼ of an avocado. So go for it if you want to spend those calories and if you have an issue with cholesterol. If these cast members are on the 1300 calories per day. The avocado would be just under ¼ of their daily calorie allowance.

    After the eat clean grocery store visit, we see Jeana Keough on a yacht drinking champagne and eating coconut shrimp (eight shrimp 1000 calories.) I actually made that mistake once. Coconut oil has a boat load of calories. I didn’t make that mistake a second time. Jenna’s friend lost 100 lbs and she states it was 80% nutrition. Yes. That is the very sad truth. Jenna is told to meditate about her life, her goals, and how she can change. Jeana said that she needs to be drugged in order to meditate.

    Therapy and weigh in. Something is very wrong. Jackie is expecting a 5 lb per week weight loss and most cast mates are losing 0 to 3 lbs. With a 500 cal. Loss per day, there should be a one pound per week loss. They are doing that through the calorie restrictions and with all of the work outs and homework work outs, there should be more weight loss. Jackie has been running them up stairs in 20 pound, smelly fire men’s suits, having them drag 160 lb dummies, and running up stairways on special visits. What is going on here?

    Next week… lie detector tests. You don’t lie to Jackie Warner and get away with it.

    • Kat says:

      I enjoy your recaps. Weight training – strength and endurance conditioning makes sense to me along with a healthy diet. I think people sometimes think of dieting as a temporary thing on their path to weight loss but weight loss can’t be maintained unless caloric intake is balanced with calories burned.
      I’ve read that greater muscle mass equals a higher metabolism. And that is what you are saying here.
      I didn’t know that monounsaturated fats helped reduce bad cholesterol and increase the good.

      It must be the need to bring that drama that has the program pushing people to near collapse.

      • TLM says:

        I get scared watching this show the same way I’ve been scared watching Biggest Loser, for the few moments I can stand it. Instead of having them do floor exercises, they have really heavy people running and doing crazy stuff. I worry that at any moment one of them will drop dead. They keep screaming at these people and calling them lazy when they are huffing and puffing and they look like they’re going to die. Maybe this is entertainment for thin types who have always thought it was fun to tease and torment the fat kid in the schoolyard while secretly being grateful it wasn’t them, but it is really disturbing to me. I don’t care to watch it.

        • Kat says:

          TLM I don’t watch it, but really like the comments and information posted here about nutrition and health.

          Demeaning a person should never be necessary as motivation for change.

  82. TLM says:

    Hi Quincy… nicely done, my friend!

    What is Jackie’s deal? She stresses the importance of calories, then says you can eat an avocado a day. Bizarre.

    I think it’s strange that Jeana hasn’t been in a grocery store. Really strange. Even if you have a personal chef. And she referred to vegetables as “green things”, as if she never saw them before. Again, odd if you have a personal chef, who usually incorporates vegetables into meals.

    BTW, what was the deal with Jeana’s supposed ex-bf from Arizona accompanying her as her “chef”?? What you talkin’ bout, Willis??!? Does Bravo think we don’t remember anything from previous shows? Ditto for Jackie’s recommendation to Jeana to meditate. Remember when Jackie tried to do yoga once, and was going out of her mind? She couldn’t stand anything where you stay still or meditate. On the other hand, Jeana definitely seems like she doesn’t mind sitting still! She seems pretty mellow. I was surprised she found it irritating. The only OC housewife I pictured being that way would be high-strung Vicki. (Lynne, on the other hand, is in a permanent state of meditation…or medication, I’m not sure which).

    I think Jeana needs to take her power back, start shopping, and start cooking for herself. She would also save money on whatever chef she’s paying. Or she could just hire Jesse Brune (www.jessebrune.com), the chef and former trainer who is or was Jackie’s best friend, and lost a bunch of weight himself recently.

    • Kat says:

      I like your idea that Jeanna needs to take her power back.
      I’d call it taking responsbility for health.

      • TLM says:

        I posted once before that it seemed like she had given up. I think having a chef makes it easier for her to pretend she has no responsibility in choosing her food or preparing it. I think it actually is just as bad if you have some program like NutriSystem telling you what little plastic trays of food to buy under their label, and when to eat. It takes all the decision-making away from the person trying to change, and when they don’t have their little plastic tray, they are lost as to how to prepare anything or make decisions for themselves. I think if Jeana got into cooking she would actually enjoy it. I would like to see Bethenny come in as a guest and teach Jeana to shop and cook. (I guess I am not Bethennyed out, I just would like to see B actually get back to her cooking and nutrition expertise instead of other shenanegans.) I think B and Jeana could be entertaining to see together.

  83. Vickey Wells says:

    I have been a “spy” for a long time, and wanted to say “hi” to some of the most intelligent and sensitive blog posters that I’ve encountered, and I visit many sites.

    The recent passing of StillAWallflower’s mom gave me the courage to post. It is true that the loss of a parent or other loved one is something you can never fully prepare yourself for.

    I lost an aunt who was truly a second mom to my first great mom to stomach cancer, and when I think about hospice, and what they did for her, and us – there are no words.

    To this day, I think about the young guitar player who came to our room as OFTEN as we needed him to. Sometimes, several times a day. Hospice workers are truly angels on earth, to quote an earlier poster.

    All the best to all of you, and thank you for the best blog in cyberspace. Lynn, I do visit the other site and click, click, click. I do commit to doing that everytime I visit.

    The links to the new site are very helpful.


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