I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of DC Reunion Part 1

I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of DC Reunion Part 1 October 15, 2010

Wow last night’s Reunion really started some debate across the internet. Twitter went crazy with comments about whether Stacie Turner was out of line or a hero for her opinions.

Stacie brought up that Mary changes her vernacular at times, and that she thought that maybe Cat was uncomfortable being around black people. Stacie is a bit passive aggressive here, she opens with a statement that she isn’t bothered by it and not offended by Mary’s behavior, but brings it up anyway? She did the same with Cat, by saying Cat’s uncomfortable around black people she is calling her racist in a roundabout way. The incident at Stacie’s home also created some debate, while it was Stacie’s friend Erika who attacked Cat, Stacie continues to defend Erika while both Mary and Lynda agreed that Erika was out of line. Lynda went as far as to call Erika unstable. Here’s what people who are siding with Cat and Mary are saying on Twitter:

She’s FOS & I’ve listened 2 @stacieturnerdc’s negative attitude w/ @catommanney & her reverse BS toward ppl who aren’t black!

@Stacieturnerdc I agree, Stacie seems like the racist, holier than tho, judgmental.

RHODC reunion! Intense so far. These ladies like to beat up on each other. And I reeeeaallly don’t like Staci

Butting In ladies but I have to say @Stacieturnerdc has serious RACE issues, close to reverse discrimination!

Wait a minute…if you say to someone they’re uncomfortable around black people, you ARE implying racism.

@stacieturnerdc Your friend Erika was MEAN and she admitted she was mean, Lynda called her unstable stop defending her

#RHODC Come on now, @stacieturnerDC, you know that it was inferred that @catommanney was racist. Don’t act all surprised.”

Why can black ppl pull the race card anytime but white ppl can’t? @stacieturnerdc ur white too!!!

I also don’t like how @stacieturnerdc judged @catommanney for crying in front of her children. She is cold hearted. #RHODC

@stacieturnerdc seems to defend @MichaeleSalahi a bit much. Stacie is out of line

not happy that @stacieturnerdc supported erica’s attack on cat in front of cat’s kids. just not right.

@stacieturnerdc not impressed w/the way u treated Cat tonight and what u said DID imply shes racist. ur the one living in a dilusional world

@stacieturnerdc I think you have a problem with naming people by colors. Black White You have a problem.

@catommanney @stacieturnerdc @maryamons @THERealLyndaDC there are a lot of black people who don’t like Tyra Banks. #getoverit

@stacieturnerdc why did u make everything a RACE issue? That is wack.

@stacieturnerdc you portrayed 2 be good friends with @catommanney and 2 now see how you feel about her is #messy

@stacieturnerdc let me find out you have 2 faces? Your blog was a low blow against @catommanney. How in the world can u justify what that nasty lady erica did 2 Cat at your house? That lady attacked her in front of her children

So I’m watching the #rhodc reunion and I gotta tell ya that I am really disappointed that @stacieturnerdc co-signed Erica’s horrible behavior.
It was your house and u had the authority to stop it!

I haven’t included any of the names of the Twitterers today, I don’t know any of these people, but this isn’t all of it folks, only a small sample, I can tell you that these tweets come from every race! Stacie also had quite a few supporters from every race:

GO @stacieturnerdc what she just told off Cat!!!!!!!!!!!!

it’s interesting that most people are in right now…I wanna be @stacieturnerdc and Jason’s best friend.

Awww, Stacie found her Father and has siblings! Awww @stacieturnerdc so happy! #RHODC

Really glad for @stacieturnerdc finding and uniting with her birth father. Blessings

stacieturnerdc I liked Cat a little more by the end but she has been hella rude to everyone this season. You’re still my favorite of RHDC!

stacieturnerdc I totally agreed with you, I think Kat was VERY uncomfortable being around an ALL black environment!

Tell it @stacieturnerdc. Put cat in her place!!! #RHODC

@stacieturnerdc congrads on the good news about your dad. And thank you for reppin us well. Mucho love.

stacieturnerdc I love you…. everything you said was the truth and the Cat issue…. Brush it off girl, she is “a bunch of rubbish”

Aw stacie- I’m sooo happy that you found your dad! Tears of joy!! @stacieturnerdc. That is exciting!!!

Watching the RHODC reunion, I am so happy that @stacieturnerdc is going to meet her birth father in Nigeria. B prepared our ppl r colorful!

stacieturnerdc so happy that you found your dad. You are most understanding than I would be about your mom.

I tweeted to Stacie before the reunion aired after I read her blog:

LynnNChicago: @stacieturnerdc disappointed in your blog, you blame Cat for showing emotion in front of her children after being attacked? wow no empathy

Stacie replied to my Tweet:

StacieTurnerDC: @LynnNChicago HUH? The kids were not present until she brought them upstairs into the conflict. THat was not cool.

My response to Stacie:

LynnNChicago: @stacieturnerdc there wouldn’t have been a conflict if it wasn’t for Erika, how can you defend her? Cat didn’t deserve that in your home, she was leaving, was she supposed to leave her kids behind?

My tweet to Stacie had nothing to do with race whatsoever, I’m frustrated that Stacie can’t or won’t admit that Erika went too far that night and based on what we heard from Lynda and Mary at the reunion, we didn’t even see the entire argument.

I was a bit surprised but glad that the Twitter conversations didn’t turn ugly or nasty, they truly were just people providing their opinion, Stacie took the brunt of the criticism and as far as I saw, no one on Twitter attacked other twitterers.

I just hope that everyone remembers that this is just a discussion of the behavior of five women on a reality show. None of these ladies have harmed anyone or effect our lives in any way, it is merely a form of entertainment, why should we argue and become stressed over any of it?

It looked as though both Mary and Cat were a bit surprised by Stacie’s attitude toward them at the reunion. I think that Cat felt things were all good between them, you can see a bit of surprise on Cat’s face as Stacie wasn’t prepared to clear Cat of any accusations. I don’t think Mary saw the comments coming her way from Stacie either.

Stacie was careful to never use the word “racist” I believe that she implied it on several different occasions. I feel that neither Mary or Cat did anything to earn this horrible label and it was unfair. Did Stacie feel alone and trapped on this show? Just a theory, but being the only African American Housewife on the DC franchise and not knowing any of these women prior to taping when some of the others had known each other for years, could have made Stacie feel the need to stay true to her friend Erika. Possibly Erika wanted to be a DC housewife and for whatever reason was not chosen could have made both Stacie and Erika lash out a bit. Possibly they thought that Erika deserved to be a Housewife over Cat? Was Erika offered a Housewife spot and declined? Did she feel slighted because she wasn’t offered a spot? Why couldn’t DC have six housewives? Lots of questions, no answers coming from Andy Cohen or Bravo.

Here’s what, Andy Cohen pointed out to the viewers that Washington DC’s population is 54% African American, yet he sat among his five DC Housewives and only one woman was African American. Why didn’t someone sitting on those couches ask Andy why the DC Housewives didn’t properly reflect the city they were representing? Many of us have asked that many times on Twitter and in blogs but no one from Bravo have ever given any explanation. Perhaps they did invite different DC Housewives to join the cast and they turned it down? I’d really like to know.

The gay marriage issue has still not been discussed but I’m sure Andy won’t let that go, I anticipate that debate will be brought up next week on part two of the reunion.

On a much brighter note, I was glad to hear (which we learned earlier from her blog) that Stacie found her birth father and is planning on taking the entire family to meet him. I thought it was great to hear that all of her siblings have called her, as well as her father’s two wives and other family members. I think it’s great that she’s found what she’s looking for and I am really glad that she is respecting her biological mother’s wishes and leaving that part of her family alone.

Michaele Salahi is a vicious, cruel woman. It is clear that she and Cat will never be friends but for Michaele to continuously bring up Cat’s husband Charles and saying that he left her and he would come back if she had love in her heart is just out of line. Michaele has learned the fine art of deflection but the DC ladies are a bit too smart for her and all three of the ladies on the left couch shut her down when she tried to steer the conversation back to them and what is wrong with their cold hearts and poor attitudes. Nice try Michaele, we are not stupid and neither are the ladies sitting with you at that reunion.

I’m glad that Cat called Michaele out on her attempts to make Cat look like the big bully, “you made lots of people cry” Michaele said. Cat didn’t just let that slip by, after pressing the question, Michaele couldn’t point to anyone that Cat had made cry, since Michaele’s fake tears don’t count. Michaele tried to use Stacie but she wasn’t having it either. Did everyone catch Michaele turning the tears on and off?

Here’s the really creepy part though, Michaele was brought to tears to the point where she couldn’t speak and she asked Andy to move on to ask someone else a question when Andy asked her if she goes anywhere without her husband. I found that to be pretty telling. Is she being controlled by this man? Tariq Salahi is never without his wife by his side. Since neither of them have real jobs, that means they’re together 24 hours a day, the one and only time we saw all season Michaele without her husband at her side was while she was trying to pretend she knew the cheerleading routines at the Redskins Cheerleading practice. I would guess he was there, just out of camera shot.

I noticed that the minute Andy asked Michaele a question about her crashing the White House State Dinner, her hand went right to her hair where she began to briefly twirl it, cut to another angle of Michaele and her hands are folded neatly in her lap and her hair is back to its original position, this would be more of that creative editing that Bravo likes to do.

It’s interesting that both Mary and Lynda expressed how much Michaele had changed, both ladies have known her for some years and are convinced that Tariq is responsible for these negative changes in Michaele. I’m tired of watching Mary giggle about Michaele’s past employment, what is wrong with being a make up artist? According to Mary, Michaele “changed her station in life”. So what Mary? I am no fan of Michaele’s but Mary is no prize either. Not everyone was born into big money Mary! By the way, I love that Lynda continues to refuse to pronounce Michaele’s name properly.

So Lynda, wow, what a surprising announcement, Lynda was a pot smoker but her fear of being caught and punished with more than a simple slap on the wrists, she quit and took up drinking scotch. Andy’s face was priceless! He seemed to look over at someone on the crew, almost as if Lynda had just uttered a curse word. Lynda is a fascinating woman, I really have gone back and forth with her, liking her one week and disliking her the next but she’s really growing on me. Not because she admitted to smoking pot, but just her honesty.
I was surprised to learn that Lynda is 53 years old, she looks great! She may not like the title “cougar” but I don’t think she can dodge it, her boyfriend Ebong is just 35 years old, what was formerly called “robbing the cradle” is now dubbed “Cougar”, sorry Lynda, if the shoe fits…

Mary was typically Mary, I’m so sick and tired of her not having an opinion, not taking sides, not having a brain or a thought in her head. She tries to remain neutral and all she is doing is showing that she can’t make up her own mind about anything! Mary needs to get a backbone, this laid back attitude that appears more like a drug induced coma is getting old. Mary is either a complete moron or just a dull person. Mary admitted she doesn’t have a best friend, I have a feeling she has no friends, she certainly has no loyalty and you couldn’t count on this woman to have your back under any circumstances. If you believe in your friend, say so, if you disagree, say that too.

Mary may think that remaining neutral is a good thing and the best way to avoid conflict and maybe it is but she’s not trustworthy and she’s not the type of woman I’d want as a friend.

I look forward to the final reunion episode but more than anything, I think I look forward to not watching this DC group anymore. I’m curious as to the future of the DC Housewives and whether or not there will be a 2nd season, I wonder if the ratings justify another year of this. Each Housewives series has its own “feel” and the DC just didn’t give off a good “feel” to me.

Unlike Atlanta who are wild, crazy and fun, I’m just glad they’re back.

Last night also marked the premier of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and I did enjoy it, new blog on that and Watch What Happens Live tomorrow.

Until Next Time…


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  2. Melinda says:

    I concur with your recap!!! I was so shocked that Stacey kept saying she did not “call Cat a racist”…….you don’t have to say the exact word to make it so…….her statements were all about Cat not being “comfortable around Black people” that sounds like she is saying she is racist to me!! Own it Stacey!!

    I saw your tweet to her yesterday……almost chimed in but then didn’t because I didn’t want her to get the feeling she was being attacked. Your tweet was spot on!

    Michaele made me SICK last night. She had that moment of FAKE cry-face and then was fine the next time the camera was on her……….WTH?!? Does she really not see how insincere she is? Does she not see how it is obvious that she is a bald-faced liar? One moment she said she WAS a Redskins cheerleader then said she didn’t say that!! OMG, made me want to punch the tv!

    Andy’s face when Linda said she smoked pot was PRICELESS!! I saw that look at the crew and busted out laughing!

    • Sha2000 says:

      She imitates the cry, the eyes well up & then nothing…whats up with that?

    • Pest control lady says:

      I want to say that I don’t think Cat is a racist, but I do believe she is clearly uncomfortable in a setting that is mostly African American. She is blunt to a fault and has zero tact. Her “impersonation” of Tyra is what made her suspect in the first place. Trying to “sound” black just made her look ridiculous. If she had just said that she didn’t like Tyra without imitating her speaking (which was not the way Tyra speaks anyway) she’d have been fine.

      Stacie should have just called it the way she sees it. I think Stacie DOES think Cat is racist. Actually, I believe that Stacie herself has real issues with race. I’m a black woman and married to a white man for 29 years. We have two daughters, so I know that sometimes race issues come when biracial children question their own identity. But Stacie hasn’t addressed these issues herself. However, that is just my opinion.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        While Tyra doesn’t typically speak with the head bobbing and finger waving, there certainly have been times that she did for what came across as theatrical effect. It comes across as not only inauthentic but almost insulting.

        Which is in part why I can’t take someone like Tyra Banks seriously in her role as a talk show hostess. I think “The Soup” has her nailed when they suggest that she is a total narcissist. Somewhere along the line, the woman has deluded herself into thinking she is in the same vein as Oprah and IMO she is not.

        • Squirrels says:

          When Tyra sends her entire audience to Australia and Jon Stewart’s entire audience to the Rally4Sanity in DC, then, maybe-just maybe, I’ll give her props for being like Oprah.

      • Melinda says:

        I have bi-racial children……..hubby is Filipino and I am Caucasian. I think Stacey does suffer a bit from just realizing she is half White and probably thought herself fully African-American until finding her birth mother. Either way maybe Cat is uncomfortable with “mixed company” or maybe she just wasn’t comfortable with the actual company.

        • nathania says:

          Cat seems like a ‘my way or the highway’ type of person. This seems to include Charles. I liked her humor on DC because she reminds me a lot of Patsy Stone but entertainment is one thing and real life is another. I think if I had her over to my house and it didn’t consist of people sitting around throwing digs and making quips at the expense of others it would bore her. I think the event at Aunt Frances’ house was edited heavily according to Cat. The other women said the confrontation with Erika was a lot more prolonged on Erika’s part and that it broke Cat down. It seems to be a typical Bravo scenario of them choosing a certain cast member to be a ‘villain’ and editing clips to support that storyline. Except that Michaele ended up being such a weirdo that they had to rethink. I think the same thing SHOULD have happened on NJ. Danielle was superglued into the villain slot, whereas I would bet money that Teresa will be stuck there next season and get a taste of her own bitter medicine, unless one of the other cast members goes postal or something. I have enjoyed NY, NJ, and DC, will probably watch DC again. NY is a different scenario because Bravo spared us painting one specific woman as a villain and seemed to take a more laid back approach, to do otherwise is insulting to the audience. I can’t understand the ‘control freak’ approach Bravo took with NJ…does it think that audience is not intelligent enough to think for themselves? I think it was headed that way with DC and then the Salahis intervened.

          One thing I don’t like is how Cat’s opinions were influence by Charles’ opinions. She doesn’t like Obama because he didn’t come to see her husband get an award. She likes Bush because Charles seemed to have a high opinion of him or a good experience with him. That part was odd. At this point I’m not clear on whether Cat has any racism. All I can draw from her rant about Tyra is that Tyra and she are opposite ends of the spectrum. She is undemonstrative and stiff as a board, and Tyra is flexible in her syntax, and emotional. It’s very hard to interpret Cat any further than that.

  3. Sha2000 says:

    Hi TrueLifeDiva ,

    I left you a message on the last blog, hope you catch it, it’s after your explanation.

    Have a good one,

  4. boston02127 says:

    Thanks for the new blog Lynn. 5 stars! Can’t wait for the BH one.

    I’m glad Stacie found her father. Although, I thought Stacie’s story about her husband getting in the Nigerian Embassy with the pizza delivery boy was odd. Everybody on WWHL laughed. I didn’t think that was funny at all.

    • Dani says:

      boston02127, I thought it was interesting too how Stacie’s husband got into the Nigerian Embassy. I realize that there is a difference from what Michaele and her husband did at the White House, however, going in with a pizza delivery guy! This gave me the feeling of why do these people feel they can break the rules?

      • American Idiot says:

        I didn’t get that either. Why couldn’t he have just made an appointment, or is that not allowed. Not familar with embassy rules.

    • nathania says:

      you are right it was a little ‘how to’ tip for someone looking for a way in.

      But I have found it very touching how much Jason loves Stacie and what lengths he has been willing to go to for her. I know it must have been awful for him to see her rejected by her birth mother because of such ridiculous reasons, I get the feeling it was almost as painful for him as it was for her. The devotion he has demonstrated toward his wife in this instance is so heartening, she is a very lucky woman and it appears that she knows it and appreciates it.

  5. vilzvet says:

    vilzvet says: (bringing this over…)
    October 15, 2010 at 9:41 am
    Who won the poll? (I fell asleep). On the whole I enjoyed the show and the new ladies. This show will be skads better than DC, thank you very much. Liked the husbands as well, especially Kyle’s. Does she really have a one year old? That could be her grandchild, LOL. Weird that her house is crammed into that neighborhood right on top of the others considering her hubby is in real estate. Looked like no property but that’s JMO. Kim kinda dissed NICKY Hilton by only referring to Paris, and in fact it was Nicky who was featured in the Bluefly commercial during the show! I like Nicky for some reason way more than Paris. I think Kim is probably broke at this point. And yikes, 4 kids by 3 men in 8 years is alot!! Lisa is quite charming and her gay BF is giving her hubby a run for the money. The homes are gorgeous. When the heck was this filmed??? Because since this has been taped Camille’s hubby Kelsey Grammar has already divorced or least separated from her and got another woman pregnant?? They need to have a quicker turnaround between filming and airdates, that blows Cat’s divorce out of the water as far as timelines go!
    MAMAZ says:
    October 15, 2010 at 10:05 am
    Kyle won the poll. And Kim looked very unhappy when she did.
    I couldn’t believe Kim referred to herself as an icon. LMAO. She was a second rate child actress. Her niece has definitely bypassed her just by being a party girl. So sad. I felt sorry for her though. She’s seems like she’s kind of a mess. Why would a younger sister have to promise the mom to look after the older sister? And yeah 4 kids, 3 men 8 years and now she wants another baby?
    Oh Kyle won the poll? I’m surprised, thought it would be Taylor or Jackie Collins, LOL. She does kinda look like Demi Moore. Who came in last would be the most hurtful result, that is why they shouldn’t have done the poll. At the basketball game, Kyle should’ve sat next to her sister since her sissy did not really know the other women and Taylor did keep turning her back. It would’ve made Kim more open and friendly, perhaps. Adrienne is probably going to turn out to be my favorite, she has kind of a New York air to her. I don’t believe the family is from Cali?? But kudos to them for their hard work ethic.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I haven’t watch yet…was it good?

      • vilzvet says:

        Yeah, good enough to watch again I guess! I always like looking at Cali! The only thing annoying was the Patti Stanger promos all during the show, ugh! Hate that beyotch!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I agree about Kim probably being broke, I also think Kyle is also probably hurting for money since the real estate market is slow. It was pretty clear their homes were going to be more modest by BH mega rich standards when Bravo was showcasing all the houses along with the profiles, their homes weren’t included.

      But then again, I am suspicious about most of the HW financial status and it wouldn’t shock me to learn that ANY of them are about to be foreclosed on.

      The whole thing with Kim going on about being photographed with Paris and the paps making a big ta-do over her came across as really sad and pathetic. It almost reminded me of the scene in Mommy Dearest where Christine was trying to strike out as an actress and felt that her mother tried to foreshadow her efforts and reclaim the spotlight.

      Other than Kyle, all the housewives look really weird to me. It’s like they all went to the same plastic surgeon and ordered the same nose, cheeks, chin, lips and boobs. The scene with Taylor getting the ‘injectables’ almost made me puke and reaffirmed my belief that even if I won Mega Millions, I wouldn’t be doing that!

      I’m not really liking any of these women.

      • fifi says:

        No, the oldest one, Lisa, hasn’t had any surgery done. She’s not all injected with fillers either.

  6. Waxdiva says:

    Stacie’s Nigerian father does not consider Stacie and Jason married as Jason did not present Stacie’s father with a dowry. My imagination has gone berserk with that one.

    McHale needs professional help. Tarmac would be barred from going with her. Actually, they both need professional help, but I think Tarmac is so far into his delusions that they have become real. IMO, McHale may still be able to be saved. Run McHale, run!!!

    • Sha2000 says:

      Me too. Sorry I wouldn’t pay a dime of that dowry.

    • boston02127 says:

      Did Stacie know her father was from Nigeria when she was trying to contact her step brother?

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        Yes. Her birth mother told her that she had met her father while working in Nigeria as a volunteer in the PeaceCorps and he was a teacher there.

      • Sha2000 says:

        She knew. Remember that woman from the embassy saying he was wearing clothing & a hat that indicated his tribe?

        • boston02127 says:

          Thank you Sha & OneMore, I asked because I don’t understand why Stacie didn’t know more about the history behind her fathers hat/dashiki. It seemed like she knew nothing about it what so ever.

          • floridagirl88 says:

            Stacie was adopted which means her bio mom didn’t want her and also didn’t want her to know more about her bio dad because it was embarrassing to her.

      • Waxdiva says:

        Why the question? What difference would it make?

        • boston02127 says:

          @Waxdiva –My post/answer came out above yours.

          • Waxdiva says:

            Seriously? I’m not going to beat a dead horse here, but why should Stacie have any knowledge of tribalwear?

            • boston02127 says:

              @Waxdiva–I’m just a curious person. If I found my long lost father in another country I would have read everything about that country. I’d want to know it all.

              • Waxdiva says:

                Well, I guess we will agree to disagree. If I, as an adult woman, just found my father, the first thing I would do is talk with him first and find out what type of a person he is. I wouldn’t waste my time ‘researching’ the country of his origin. Stacie has no idea if she and this person will even be comfortable with each other, let alone forge a father/daughter relationship. Right now she is fantisizing… let’s see how she views all this when the reality of it all sets in.

        • boston02127 says:

          @ Waxdiva–Also, I wondered if Stacie knew where her father was from when she was trying to contact her step brother because that was at the beginning. I was trying to figure a time line out.

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            My take was that Africa/Nigeria seemed too overwhelming as a place to start looking for her birth father.

            Like looking for a needle in a haystack.

            So Stacie tried to reach out to her half Brother.

            When she met the Nigerian designer at the fashion show who told her that the hat/dashiki meant he was from the Obe (sp?) tribe and called her sister- it made it more attainable to find him through that connection and leave her half brother alone.

    • Savannah111 says:

      I don’t know I think Michaele won’t leave him, if she could stick by him through out all that mess I dont think theres any hope that she’ll break free I’m beginning to really think the two of them may be perfect for each other I know that sounds weird because I don;t think she was born and raised that way but at the same time I dont think she’s as weak as people may think. It was hard for me to believe that she didnt take off and run before they had to go before that committee, I’ve seen those e-mails they knew they had to KNOW they were not invited because they responded to them it’s just crazy. I just don;t know what to think of this couple..

  7. OneMoreInBoston says:


    “There comes a time in your life where times change, seasons change and it’s time for something new. On reality television shows, when it gets so popular and hot the desire and the need to be on top is always there. The first season of Real Housewives was very organic. What you see is what you got and that’s exactly how it happened. The second season we had the ratings, so you wanted to keep them there so the producers want to stir the pot a bit. Our ratings—we were killing everybody so it’s like we gotta stay on top so they had an idea of where they want their characters to go and they forget that we’re not characters in a show we’re real people living our lives. And sometimes people want to turn you into a character of your former self and I’m just not willing to perform or create something that isn’t there.

    They have an idea of who they want you to be and you can only take that for so long and that’s why I said it’s time to go because I’m not willing to compromise my integrity. It’s like all Black people don’t act this way and it’s unfortunate that we feed into those stereotypes sometimes. I understand you don’t want to watch paint dry. I get it. But it’s a fine line between performing and acting a’fool. I had very real moments, I got upset on the reunion show but at the end of the day there’s a time and a place for everything. I have other aspects of my life that are interesting as you can guess but this is reality you’re not gonna tell me what I should focus on. So it comes a point where the pressure from the producers⎯they want to keep those ratings high so they’re like this is what’s going on this season and I’m like wait a minute, this is supposed to be reality television and some things I’m not willing to compromise. You have to have integrity and stand up for what you believe in and I refuse to create things that are not there for the sake of their ratings because I still have to live my life when the show is over.”

    Well, there you go @Olivia. You were so right all along.

    • Night Light says:

      Still not buying explanation. I don’t think it explains it all it’s an incomplete picture. Lisa was in the process of “down grading” she didn’t want that out there. But I didn’t care for her so I am glad she is gone.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        agreed- seemed like sour grapes when I read it but was interesting that she is confirming that story lines are contrived by Bravo

        • Olivia says:

          But factoring in what Jill said about the producers wanting her to “ramp up the drama” if she wished to hold onto the apple, and Kelly twittering almost the same message in one of her millionth tweets, then there is reason to believe that there is truth in that statement.

  8. Night Light says:

    Quick summary on the ladies:
    Michaele is no victim. She is using MS to garner sympathy and she’s delusional if she thinks that the only people not buying her bs are her cast mates. She is truly a cruel human being as she lashed at Cat and her ex-husband. (pathetic)
    Stacie-Again just because you didn’t accuse Cat outright that she is racist doesn’t mean take away the many times you and your F-uped friend did. Stacie had an opportunity to say No Cat is not a racist and it would not take anything away from Cat’s rude behaviour. Stacie was so busy in trying to show black people in a positive light that she came off as passive aggressive. Even with her story line she is boring!
    Mary-Go and have another glass of wine and don’t take a stand for anything. Snore!
    Lynda-I go back and forth with her also. I was shocked about the pot smoking but then again not really. I did appreciate her honesty. BTW her response to Andy about bringing Tarque (sp??) and she is without Ebong is a reasonable response. That’s how a normal person would respond after being attacked. Get that Kim from RHOA?
    Cat-I have truly come full circle with that lady. I hated her when she made that Amerian comment but she truly says what she feels even though it might be appropriate. I absolutely adore Cat and her humor. She doesn’t take herself too seriously and I would watch her anytime!

    • Sha2000 says:

      I agree 100% RE: Cat; full circle here too. She’s bright & witty & worth watching.
      Michaele, I agree is no victim; just drunk on delusion. She’s no dummy she just seems to choose to be one-a waste. YES, I too noticed her dig to Cat, very, very nasty but done under the guise of “I’m so sweet & forgiving, just trying to give you advice”. Nasty, but not under Cat’s radar.

  9. MAMAZ says:

    Good morning Lynn!

    I’ll jump right in on the whole Stacy and the race card issue. I already mentioned this on the last blog. I don’t feel that Stacy was calling or IMO even implying that Cat was a racist. Being uncomfortable around a group of people is not the same thing as disliking, sterotyping or discriminating against them. I believe Stacy’s point was that Cat was outside her comfort zone and therefore didn’t behave the best.
    As for Mary and the vernacular change, you can notice something and not be personally bothered by it. Remember when Madonna adopted a British accent after she married Guy Ritchie? She was the butt of late night TV jokes. Everyone noticed but I don’t think Jay Leno, David Letterman or anyone else was bothered by it. It just makes you wonder why a person would change their speech patterns at certain times. If it’s “reverse racism” for Stacy to comment on it then is it racist for Mary to do it in the first place?

    While I don’t like Micheale Salahi I think she made a valid point that Cat can dish it out but can’t take it. But she went too far as usual by insisting that Cat made people cry when she hadn’t. But just because she didn’t hurt someone’s feelings or reduce them to tears doesn’t mean she didn’t offend them.
    How about MS and the Redskin Cheerleader claims. Wow. She ran all around that didn’t she? And the tears when asked if she goes anywhere without Tareq? WTH? I predict next week she will be weeping about how misunderstood her poor darling husband is, blah, blah, blah.

    Speaking of blah, just why is Mary on this show?

    Lynda was far more interesting and entertaining on the reunion than she was on the show.

    • Night Light says:

      Mary is so boring is why I think she has to imitate. She imitated Cat as well.

      • Sha2000 says:

        I like Mary. Am I the only one? When I think HW boring I picture Jacqueline; she has literally made me fall asleep more than once.

        • Sha2000 says:

          BTW Night light, last night she imitated herself while watching her scenes.

        • Waxdiva says:

          Awww… it’s not Jacqueline’s fault. If she expresses her own opinion, she would face the wrath of Carolyn (and that is really her name), shrivel into a mass of quivering epidermis and instantaneously combust.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        interesting observation! I didn’t notice that but you are absolutely right.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I didn’t respond to you post on the last blog as I was furiously reading through all the comments.

      Yes, Yes and more yes. I agree with all of your statements.

      BUT I can’t help but wonder, if someone changes the way that they speak when they see someone who looks different than themselves, is that not stereotyping?

      Certainly British people have stereotypes about them that Madonna was trying to adopt?

      • Night Light says:

        Personally because I speak three languages, when I am speaking with people of native tongue my well lets just say my body really gets into it. When I speak English, I work so hard not let an accent come out, that it sounds like a drawl and my jaws don’t move. The third one comes out…well let’s just say it comes out. lol But I do behave differently with co-workers, friends, family ect. Mary is just boring lol petty of me isn’t it! lol

        • dreemz says:

          Night Light, when you are speaking a language and you “work so hard not let an accent come out” that reminds me so much of Mary! Every time I see her (with or without booze) it seems as though she is making a herculean effort to ennunciate each word very carefully…I think she might have a blood alchohol level going pretty strong most of the time, hey, not my place to criticize…just sayin’. She also seems to have a practiced answer when asked about alchohol. Mary hasn’t really harmed anyone but she reminds me of women I’ve known who will sit and listen to gossip and make faces in agreement instead of sticking up for someone who is being wronged, we’ve all seen this kind of thing happening. Mary just goes along with the flow, she just says what she thinks people want to hear.
          Michaele, oh Michaele, I’ve got to go with my gut here and it would be MUCH easier just to chew her up & spit her out but I can’t. I think her SLIMEY husband has gotten physical & emotional control of her thru the years of their marriage, yes, I think she is a victim of abuse. I have been watching her carefully since the first episode and also reading everything I could find about them and feel that she is abused. I have been guilty of ridiculing her along with everyone else…shame on me. When she broke down after being asked if she ever goes anywhere without her slimey husband I think that was the clarifying moment for me. If I’m right then hopefully some angel will help her find her way away from him, she going to need strength.

          • dreemz says:

            me again. I AM confused by my reaction to them…I can’t stand it when she does all her lovey-kissy-smilin’ while she’s talking in that singy-songy voice of hers and crawling all over everyone humpin’ peoples legs & stuff. OK. I’M CONFUSED.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I think it is. But it’s not necessarily racist. Maybe the person is just tryin too hard to show that they aren’t racist. I think that is what Stacy was saying about Mary.
        I am around a very diverse group of peeple all day long. I find that nobody mimics the Japanese, Chinese or Indians. To do so would be considered extremely offensive, like mocking them. Yet many people will grab onto what is perceiveto be African American slang to prove that they are tolerant or accepting. It’s very odd. And I can promise you that it is noticed. And not appreciated.
        Now if you are raised in a certain culture and adopt the accents, idiom and mannerisms of that culture nobody will think twice. Which is why Eminem can get away with his manner of speech. And Madonna couldn’t.
        It’s all about being authentic. And when you aren’t like when Mary uses what she thinks of as African Amrican vernacular you appear phony. And then one wonders what else is phony?

        • Night Light says:

          Well other than Mary’s mimicking habits there is nothing to point that she is racist.

          • MAMAZ says:

            No, I don’t think she is a racist. Neither is Cat. That’s the whole point. It’s about being uncomfortable. Mary is uncomfortable with anyone thinking she could be a racist so she trys too hard to prove she isn’t.
            Cat was uncomfortable around African Americans only because she probably doesn’t have many African American friends. When face with being out of her comfort zone she was rude and gruff.

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            What does “racist” mean?

            From Wikipedia:
            “Racism is the belief that the genetic factors which constitute race are a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.”

            If we use that definition as a guide, than I agree with you that Mary is not racist.

            But by adopting a vernacular that is not her own to talk to Stacie, I don’t believe that she is colorblind by any means.

            I believe there are people who are “racist” and people who are “racial”. Meaning they constantly notice the differences between us rather than the similarities. While I don’t think Mary is racist I do think she is racial.

            ***In my opinion*** (I hope I’m not stirring the hornet’s nest here) When one notices the differences and the “otherness” of another group, it is a slippery slope down to “us” vs. “them”.

            • MAMAZ says:

              But pretending they don’t exist is equally dangerous.
              I had a friend once who when telling me about he husband’s new boss whispered “he’s Jewish.” I laughed and told her there was no need to whisper since being Jewish isn’t a crime.
              Another friend was shocked when I was describing someone I recently met as tall, thin and black. He was and it would have been silly to pretend I just didn’t happen to notice. We describe ourselves as fair, olive skinned or tanned.
              But I agree it’s complicated and I never want to encourage the “us against them”, “otherness” you described.

    • And did you notice how much prettier Lynda looked and how much nicer her hair was?
      As fake as Michaele is I do think her sadness over never going anywhere without Tar really went deep.Like maybe she knows she is dependent on him or worse she knows she’s trapped.You know how we can all BS ourselves till we realise someone else has noticed and then the jig is up?

  10. Olivia says:

    I have no desire to discuss race, religion, or politics on a board that is primarily created to discuss the “stars” of these franchises. It is what it is, nothing more.

    These shows, all performing with the exact same formula, have only the “personalities” of the women to rely upon as offering something “different” within the context of whatever this presentation wishes to achieve.

    Bravo is showcasing them as wealthy matrons living in luxurious surroundings, wearing fancy clothes and spending like drunken sailors, while being primped, coiffed, and styled for our enjoyment. Some are more likable than others but they all share the same mindset that they are somehow “worthy” of adulation. Most of them have been “under the knife” so to speak in their vain attempts to be seen as younger than their years. Carved, plumped, and injected to the max, most of them are as fake as the weaves they insist on sporting regardless of how ridiculous they appear.

    Objectionable as they may be, we seem to take some of this phony stuff far too seriously. Most of them are downright laughable as they sit there pontificating about the foibles of the others without taking into account that the others are doing much the same thing to them.

    It is one thing to disagree with about who is our “chosen pet” but another to get into arguments over serious issues on a board where nuance is lacking and tonality is missing.

    Bravo is presenting “fact” where none exists. Most of this stuff is “produced” with an aim to garner the most interest and drama and these women readily agree to the overall parameters expressed in the contract. Bravo “stirs the plot” and these women comply. It suits them. They get something in return. It is working collaboration at best and it is getting a little old with the number of these franchises that do nothing more than enable these productions to fool the public into belief.

    They all nothing more than a group of self absorbed women all in it for themselves with Bravo raking in the profits at the expense of good taste.

    • Waxdiva says:

      There’s a cycle for everything. IMO, Bravo is hitting the saturation point with the HW’s franchise.

    • American Idiot says:

      Olivia: I love your posts, but I don’t understand the paragraph/sentence which contains the words “chosen pet”. Are you referencing the show, or this blog or possibly a post from yesterday.

  11. Squirrels says:

    Thanks for the recap. I’m in a Bravo free zone in NM for a couple of weeks. Glad I can keep up.

    Thanks for the welcome all.

    • Sha2000 says:

      We could all use a Bravo free zone…I think they call it TV rehab.

      • Olivia says:

        Which is why I cannot bring myself to watch Beverly Hills. I can almost outline the “story” from here.

        Look for a cooking lesson episode. A trip to the jewelers for a day of shopping. A birthday/anniversary party. A fashion show. Someone’s untrained dog pooping all over the place. Maladjusted kids. Unhappy marriages. A day on a boat. Screaming matches. Snide remarks. Another trip to some cosmetic specialist. Peek a boo boobs. (And if they can find someone in the cast searching for a birth parent, look for that one to get worked in.) Someone with “musical ambitions”. Jewelry designers. Book deals. Would be fashion lines.

        Throw in the weaves, plumped lips, arched eyebrows, double D’s, and gym workouts and you won’t have a clue as to which franchise you are watching without a map and a TV Guide.

        • Sha2000 says:

          I have it DVRd; but as you say no doubt it will be more of the same. I do like to look at homes & decor; so I’ll look at it first for that but, I do think the women seem horrible in the previews.

    • Dani says:

      Squirrels you are back. I am so happy I always love reading your comments and I have missed you.

    • emt2 says:

      Hi Squirrels! I’ve missed you! Hope you are well.

  12. Amber...Real Wife says:

    You can be uncomfortable being around others without being a racist. It seems some are unwilling to understand that because it is about color, culture and numbers. Try to understand it this way. You walk into a room where everyone knows everyone. You, typically outgoing, feel a little uncomfortable, as all are talking enjoying each other and you don’t know how to get in there and join the conversation. You can join the group making small talk and break the ice, or you can make inappropriate comments throw cold water over all. The choice is yours.

    • MAMAZ says:

      YES! Amber that is exactly what I mean. For instance Kim was very uncomfortable at the basketball game because she didn’t know the other women. And her sister was irritated with her because of it. Like Stacy was irritated with Cat.
      It is even more extreme when you get into race or disablilities. Try being the only white person at an African American or Asian event. Or the only walking person at a wheelchair basketball game. I don’t care how enlightened you are you WILL be uncomfortable at first. But the more time you spend with people who are different from you the more comfortable you become. And you find out just how alike we all really are.

      • Squirrels says:

        LOL. Try being the only asian family (with a white dad) in an entire town during the 50’s-60’s. Somehow, my parents shielded us and we never knew what racism was going on behind the scenes. At around the age of 35, I learned how the Catholic church tried to shun us. Naturally Dad decided to sign us up and become involved with every youth event. Oh they hated him, lolol. Talk about taboo subjects? Religion and race combined. HA!. The beauty was we won the hearts and minds of regular town folk, boy did the Monsignor bristle. 😀

  13. @twilighttwitti says:

    Michaele Salahi is a big fat phony! I laughed everytime she turned on and off her fake crocodile tears. It turns out only Michaele was made to cry by Cat but those tears don’t count because they are fake. Michaele just because you have a husband doesn’t mean your not loved. No one on earth would want that loser Tareq for a husband. he is no catch, let me tell you.
    Stacie I think you are a racist. You keep calling people by the color of their skin, Black, white, why don’t you just call them by their given names and stop labeling people.
    Your a moron.
    Cat, I love that you tell it like it is. I wouldn’t be surprised if you and Lynda were good friends. Thanks for telling Michaele what we all think.

  14. realminkey says:

    How about some levity…

    Pandora Vanderpump.

    Yes, that’s her daughter’s name. LOL!

  15. butterisafruit says:

    That’s an excellent recap Lynn. You’re very good at this. I watched only 20 mins. of the Beverly Hills show. I kept thinking I was watching a rerun of Burke’s Law.

  16. Rabble Rouser says:

    Good morning to you all!!

    Thank You Lynn for the new blog…especially since the other one took an ugly turn- I hope this one stays on a pleasant track.

    I can’t wait to dig into the RHOBH posts…

  17. American Idiot says:

    Great blog as usual Lynn. I just wanted to say something about Michaela’s reaction when Andy asked her if she ever goes anywhere with Tareq. Michaela teared up and asked Andy to move on. Several posters above questioned this.

    I gathered from reading the DD book, that Michaela needs Tareq around her all the time, since he is the only one who knew/knows about her MS (until recently). She needs/needed him to monitor her food, drink, strength, etc. She trusts him completely and depends upon him to help her if she suddendly get weak, or is symtomatic (sp?) This word symptomatic (sp?) was used consistently throughout the book. I assumed it means Michaela has good days and bad days.

    Now, I am not saying this is true or accurate. I am also not saying DD wrote a completly unbiased book. I am not even sure if Micaela has MS.

    Just wanted to throw this out there as a possible reason for Michaela’s somewhat strange reaction to Andy’s question.

    • fifi says:

      Good point. If she has MS she could be very reliant on help. Appearing to be healthy outwardly doesn’t mean she is. I know first hand. I sure hope she is not lying about that.

  18. Amber...Real Wife says:


    Cat, is just like DINA! Yes I said it! LOL

    How can the rudest, boorish, most obnoxious housewife, act so hurt, and “annihilated” by being called a mean girl? Why does she DEMAND, that Mary and Lynda defend her from Erica? Why can’t she stand up for herself? She’s really quick with the unfiltered comments, not caring if she insults hosts or ruins dinner parties. Then she plays the victim and wants Erica ex-communicated from their circle for calling her a mean girl. Ridiculous! Dina at its finest. Cat, like Dina, starts the bullshit, and then ClownyCaroline, or Lynda in this instance, is the senior statesman reprimanding anyone going against Cat.

    Then Cat played victim, again, blaming her husband for their breakup , claiming he wanted her home alone…WHAT!!! That bitch was everywhere, all the time. She complained he was gone so much and couldn’t attend all of the functions. She went to countless dinners, was constantly running with that Jason hairdresser guy, Paul Wharton and up Mary’s ass too. She’s full of it. Cat is the worst export GB has sent the US ever! Please send her back, inbox full or empty, I don’t give a rat’s ass! Good riddance to bad rubbish!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      OOOOOHH LOL LOL I amuse myself! 😉

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      “she plays the victim”

      Good point. So true for both Dina and Cat. True of Danielle too.

    • emt2 says:

      Applause. Cat is exactly like Dina. I don’t know why people like her, honestly. She hasn’t handled the demise of her public divorce very well and should just stop talking about it. She loves to say snide remarks and as soon as someone says something, she gets a shocked look on her face and start feeling “annihilated.” Next, please. lol

  19. Jacks says:

    Blog was dead on..absolutely agree with all of it..!!

  20. Maite1964 says:

    Great blog Lynn!

    I couldn’t continue watching the reunion after the first 15 minutes, I can’t stomach Michael Salahi. I think she is a sociopath, an extremely manipulative evil person and so is her husband. She talks about love love love and with the same smile she stabs and lies, these two could care less about who they hurt or what laws they break, they feel entitled and beyond the system. No fun to watch …maybe Bravo should gather all their lunatics and make a new show called the Real Psychos and/or B’s of Bravo and offer a job to Danielle, Kikilet, Jill, Michael, Teresa and Patti S.

  21. MAMAZ says:

    Ok ,I know we are all a little weary of the race issue. It’s emotionally draining. I have one more thing to say and then I really have to go finish my housework

    We are all to some degree bigots. That’s the truth of the matter. We are all at one time or another uncomfortable or even fearful of cultures we don’t understand or are unfamiliar with. That doesn’t make us bad people. It’s human nature.

    I personally choose to learn as much as I can about other cultures, nationalities and ethnicities. I am outgoing, curious and adventerous by nature. I made some of the same mistakes as Mary when I was younger. Trying just a little too hard.
    I’ve learned that it’s not about fitting in. It’s about being yourself no matter who you are with and letting the other person be themself.
    Don’t use customs and idioms that aren’t native to you UNLESS encouraged to do so by a friend or host. Such as eating a Seder meal with friends. Or wearing a sari to a friends Dawali celebration. I have done those things when invited to do so. Like wise I have had Christmas gifts under the tree for my non Christian friends. But I would never put up a menorah in my home, celebrate Kwanzaa or call my African American friends sister. You can’t co-opt other peoples customs without causing some resentment no matter how good your intentions may be.
    Also I would reccomend not to ever say you don’t see color. It’s kind of offensive. There is nothing wrong with seeing color. Peoples physical differences are real. Just don’t discriminate because of them.
    I’ll get off my soapbox now.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Well said!


      I might light a menorah in my home because they can be pretty; just not to close to put my Christmas tree on fire : )

      Lol! Just trying to keep it light!!!

      All very well said Mamaz & I wish I had found the word to have said the same.

      Have a great day.

    • Olivia says:

      You are right on target!

      My point is that we are basically “arguing” over topics that have been presented by Bravo whom we all know “contrives” most of these situations with an eye on the ratings.

      We have no idea of how “genuine or reality based” these particular episodes are when dipping into these issues performed by a cast we know nothing about.

      We have been presented with backstabbing, violence, and vulgarity and now the introduction of racial topics that without the clarity of what is and what is not real here has us battling amongst ourselves.

      Just as many believe that Kelly had a “breakdown” in St John’s, the question of whether these DC ladies acted within the scope of the storyline in order to appear more “sophisticated” is up for grabs.

  22. Dani says:

    Great blog Lynn, thank you. I have to say I really like Lynda and Cat. I loved it that Lynda was so honest about smoking pot. I think it did take Andy back and the look on his face was priceless. I also liked the fact that Lynda shut Andy down on bringing Tariq Salahi out without the other men. You could tell that Andy was upset by her insisting that he should not bring him onto the set. I for one certainly don’t want to hear anymore of his lies and the show is not called HWODC and Tariq.

    I also enjoyed HWOBH finally a housewives show where the women truly have money. Eat your heart out Jill Zarin!!!

  23. Cammie says:

    love the re-cap Lynn! And love reading the comments from so many different people with differing opinions of the same things! Race is always a hot button issue, and unfortunately, in the US, if you’re white, you have to prove you’re NOT racist rather than prove that you are. Black people are assumed to be above negative feelings for people of other races, tho I’ll never understand why. Maybe 200 years ago you could say that whites had power and people without power are incapable of being racist (or whatever the bullshit explanation for that idea is) but hellllooooo black people have power today-witness most of the entertainment industry (music, television and movies) and the President of the United States..?? Can’t we just drop this idea that most whites hate/mistrust/fear blacks and entertain the possibility that SOME black people may feel that way about whites? As a white person, I was shocked and insulted that Staci felt that Cat’s dislike of TYRA BANKS signified she was uncomfortable with blacks. Pu-leeeeze. Maybe Cat was looking past Tyra’s color where Staci couldn’t. So maybe Staci is the racist. Or maybe I just don’t like Staci. And NOT because she’s black for god’s sakes.
    And if you want to find someone who turns on the “black accent” when talking to certain people, look no further than Oprah damn Winfrey. Note that when she is talking to a ‘sister’ she dips into the black vernacular and when she is talking to someone “important” she uses her best affected noble accent. And Oprah is above reproach in any community-white or black. It’s just something people do. I don’t think it’s an insult. Half the teenagers and young 20 somethings do it on a regular basis and are emulating the black music talents they love. Personally I think it will cause the ruin of our dialects … but that’s a rant for another day!
    Can’t WAIT for the 2nd installment of crazy ass DC bitches getting down!

    • Sha2000 says:

      Hi Cami,

      Honestly I’m afraid to touch your post without a 10 ft pole but here it goes….
      I ****somewhat**** see your point but respectfully I think it goes a bit over board. I as an American white woman do **NOT** agree that I have to prove I’m not a racist (in the real world that is lol, not here on this board-long stupid story). My personal experience in relationships with black friends, co-workers & just individuals I meet, has been over all the SAME as with my experience in relationships with white friends, co-workers & just individuals I meet. For me it’s been more positive & I have *not* had to “prove” anything to them. People are people. If some African Americans are suspicious of us; it’s not without good reason as our history as a nation has been tainted with racism,. Yes, we have evolved in race relations BUT all evolution is not simultaneous, there unfortunately ARE others that have not yet reached that point & still have far to go. Overwhelmingly my experience has been African Americans have been kind & respectful to me & as I have been to them…nothing for me to prove other than mutual basic respect.

      PS: for the record, I dislike Tyra because she’s an annoying WOMAN & I love Oprah because shes a great WOMAN.

      Disclaimer to all others here:
      This is ***my opinion*** no pouncing. Stop, read & reread if anyone needs to….I am no longer going to argue about imaginary comments nor defend what I didn’t say. Comprehension is up to you ; )

      • shaigyrl says:

        Lol. I can’t stand Tyra either, because I think she’s fake as all get out. Don’t care too much for Oprah either. Lol

      • Cammie says:

        I hear you Sha-my comment about proving we (white people) aren’t racist was not referring to individuals in the real world, but more to the brand that we seem to wear as a race in society. “They” have seemed to agree that white people are racists, inherently. One one one, I have never had an issue with any person of a different race or country of origin, but watching the talking heads on the news, you’d think we were all in a full out race war.
        I appreciate your point about differing speeds of evolution-good way to put it

    • shaigyrl says:

      I agree and disagree….as a black woman who works in white corporate America, it gets annoying when ANYONE who is not Black talks to me in the so-called “perceived” Black manner. Calling me “girlfriend” and “sister…er, sista” is insulting. They don’t talk that way to anyone else but me. Why? It’s not as if I talk that way to them, nor have they witnessed that type of speech to anyone period. I can get Stacie cause I’m there. I don’t think Cat is racist, however I could have gone without the neck-poppin, eye-rollin, sista-gurl speak when referring to Tyra. That’s what is offensive. I’m sure it wasnt the first time. As for the dinner, I do think Cat was uncomfortable but that doesn’t imply reverse racism on my part. We’ve witnessed Cat @ plenty other functions where she had no problem adapting. So one could perceive that she was not comfortable in a situation she may have never been in which is a household of Blacks. I have a coworker that straight up told me they wouldn’t be comfortable coming to my bday party as they would be the only Indian person @ a function with only Blacks and Hispanics. I don’t think they are racist, just unsure of the familiar. I respect them for their honesty and told them to come have fun and experience us and that we’s show him a good time. I think Cat feels admitting she was uncomfortable, which was obvious to all, equals an admission to a dislike of Blacks. But its not

      • Cammie says:

        but don’t you think that Tyra uses that neck poppin, eye rollin, sista-girl speak every now and then? Maybe that’s why Cat doesnt like her.
        And your point about Cat being afraid to admit she may have been uncomfortable is well taken-and well put.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Cammie – I pride myself on being respectful to everyone on here regardless of their point of view. Your post really tested my composure. So much that I tried to reply three different times and stopped because I couldn’t respond to you without anger.
        I don’t know if you are trying to incite another argument on here or not. It seems like you are but I apologize if your post was sincere. If it was I am very dissappointed that you would honestly believe that white people holding all or most of the power in this country ended 200 years ago or thereabouts with the Emancipation Act. You are clearly overlooking a couple hundred years of civil rights history.

        Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry are the only black studio heads in this country. So your remark about the entertainment industry are way off the mark.

        As for Oprah dipping into black vernacular as you put it, well she’s a black woman so she can! It’s a part of her cultural heritage. I’m Italian American and I can assure you that we also have a vernacular. When I am home, surrounded by East Coast Italians I will slip into it. If I brought you there and you started imitating us I would feel that you were making fun of us or were a wannabe. Either way I would be annoyed.

        Your post is suspiciously troll like so I wont respond to you again.

        • Cammie says:

          well I will respond to you MamaZ even if you don’t want to reply to me. I am in no way trying to incite an argument-just stating a respectful opinion. Sorry if you found it otherwise.
          I am also an Italian-American and VERY proud of it and if anyone mimicked my very loud family at one of our gatherings, I would not be insulted. It’s very catchy-and I understand people wanting to become a part of something that is so warm and vibrant and full of love. I would look at it as a compliment and not a put down.
          I am not a troll. And I don’t see anything in my post that made me look that way.
          I did not say that black people’s struggles had ended. But yes, when most of the top grossing movie stars, recording artists and atheletes are black, I’m thinking that maybe things are starting to come around and that race isn’t something that will always hold you back as it did in the past.
          As far as Oprah using black vernacular, maybe my using her as an example was a little clumsy. It was certainly not meant to offend

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            I’m glad you had a chance to explain yourself Cammie, because like @MAMAZ, I really had a hard time composing a reply to your posting.

            To pretend to portray a woman of African American descent in the most demeaning, stereotypical, ghetto way to an audience of African American women and THE CHEF of said African American woman was one of the most disrespectful, disgraceful acts I saw on that show.

            I personally CANNOT STAND Tyra, but because she’s so full of herself that she cuts her guests her off in order to talk about herself.

            When you state “It’s just something people do. I don’t think it’s an insult.” YOU are not the person targeted, so whether you YOU believe it is an insult is not as relevent as what the people who are being targeted feel.

            My college roommate is a CTO at a Fortune 500 company. The ONLY African American woman in the country to have that title (of a Fortune 500 company) While you may not feel that those types of comments are insulting or that they even matter, she continuously shares the racist/racial obstacle course that she has to run every day.

            Words have power.

            So why not use them to bring people together instead of divide us?

            • Cammie says:

              wow…I am totally in shock! I usually have no problem composing my thoughts so that they are well understood, but apparently not this time. I have to think it’s because race is the topic and that is a very sensitive issue. My first post was written hastily, off the top of my head and apparently clumsily since people have thought I was a troll, or insulting. Usually I just read the comments and don’t join in except for in my head, and I think I will go back to that.
              you said<>I meant to say that I don’t think the people saying these things MEAN them as an insult. Whether they are taken as an insult is a whole other matter, and I think that is what is happening here with my posts as well. I didn’t mean any of them as an insult, or to incite a riot, or for any other reason than to just join in the conversation with people who were watching the same thing I was. I am a new poster so none of you had previous knowledge of who I was or what my usual slant is, and I apparently did a poor job of presenting myself. I dipped my toe in the water and yikes-it’s too cold for me. I will stick to reading

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                You are welcome here.

                Your opinions are valid.

                At first, like @MAMAZ I didn’t really know how to take your posting.

                Since I’ve read through what you’ve said since, I see where you are coming from and respect that you are explaining your position.

                I hope you reconsider, and we see you post again.

    • Squirrels says:

      Didn’t Teresa do the I’m from Patterson tough guy, head roll at the country club? Apparently, idiosyncrasies cross ethnic origin borders. Either that, or I just can’t grasp the nuances.

  24. boston02127 says:

    ME——Did Stacie know her father was from Nigeria when she was trying to contact her step brother?

    OneMoreInBoston says: Yes. Her birth mother told her that she had met her father while working in Nigeria as a volunteer in the PeaceCorps and he was a teacher there.

    Sha2000 says: She knew. Remember that woman from the embassy saying he was wearing clothing & a hat that indicated his tribe?

    Me–Thank you Sha & OneMore, I asked because I don’t understand why Stacie didn’t know more about the history behind her fathers hat/dashiki. It seemed like she knew nothing about it what so ever.

    Waxdiva says: Why the question? What difference would it make?

    Waxdiva says: Seriously? I’m not going to beat a dead horse here, but why should Stacie have any knowledge of tribalwear?

    ME—–@Waxdiva–I’m just a curious person. If I found my long lost father in another country I would have read everything about that country. I’d want to know it all.

    ME—–@ Waxdiva–Also, I wondered if Stacie knew where her father was from when she was trying to contact her step brother because that was at the beginning. I was trying to figure a time line out.

    Waxdiva—Well, I guess we will agree to disagree. If I, as an adult woman, just found my father, the first thing I would do is talk with him first and find out what type of a person he is. I wouldn’t waste my time ‘researching’ the country of his origin. Stacie has no idea if she and this person will even be comfortable with each other, let alone forge a father/daughter relationship. Right now she is fantisizing… let’s see how she views all this when the reality of it all sets in.

    Waxdiva—-Stacie found the picture of her father before she found her father. If I saw a picture of my long lost father in a dashiki and knew he was Tribal Chief, I’d think it was an honor and I’d want to know ALL about it. She has plenty of time to crack open a book to learn what I thought everyone was taught in grammar school.

    I’m not going to get dragged in to the hatefest in a sideways fashion by anyone turning my questions around like I’m some kind of ignorant idiot.

    Enjoy your day.

    • Waxdiva says:

      What?! Where was there a ‘hatefest?’ Please inform.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Boston: I surely hope you are not implying that I, in any way, was the cause of your writing, “I’m not going to get dragged in to the hatefest in a sideways fashion by anyone turning my questions around like I’m some kind of ignorant idiot.”

      If you ARE implying that, please respond showing where I turned your question around, that there was a ‘hatefest’ or called you a name.

      I am not one to back down. Kindly respond to the above.

      • American Idiot says:

        Well, I don’t know who else it could be, since you and Boston were the only two in the conversation. Others chimed in with a few comments, but you two were the main posters.

      • Waxdiva says:


        Awaiting your reply. Please respond. Second request.

        • Waxdiva says:

          WOW. I am totaly ticked. I do not appreciate anyone making an inaccurate accusation towards me and then hiding.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:


          I found your comments to @boston02127 as coming across as aggressive.

          I don’t think it is your intention because I usually find you to be pleasant with interesting comments to make, but today it seems like you are looking for a fight.

          @boston02127 specifically said she is “not going to be dragged into a hatefest” so it’s my take that she probably has logged off and will not respond to you.

          • Waxdiva says:

            I appreciate your kind words.

            Yes, I read every one of her words. I am awaiting a response from her…I’m sure she will be back.

            There is absolutely nothing about the original conversation that was aggressive nor hateful.

            Do you mean that I do not appreciate anyone disparaging me without cause, running off and then getting really PO’d about it?

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              I respectfully disagree.

              When @boston02127 asked the timeline of Stacie knowing if her father was from Nigeria before contacting her brother,
              you responded “Why the question? What difference would it make?”

              I don’t believe it’s @boston02127’s responsibility to justify her questions to you or to anyone else here.

              You further went on to say to her “Seriously? I’m not going to beat a dead horse here, but why should Stacie have any knowledge of tribalwear?”

              I found your comments to be demanding and somewhat aggressive.

              And evidently so did @boston02127.

            • quincyil says:

              Boston has a lot of responsibilities. She usually leaves to accomplish tasks during the day. There is no sense in becoming upset when she is obviously not here. I am enjoying the weather here and I hope that you have a chance to be outside and breath fresh air today too. Take care.

              • Waxdiva says:

                The point here is this: I do not appreciate anyone falsely accusing me and then running. If you care to read the entire thread, you will see that I started it. My questions were neither ‘hateful’ nor ‘aggressive;’ they were logical.

          • Waxdiva says:

            Bytheway, I did not write this, as attributed to me via Boston’s post:

            Waxdiva—-Stacie found the picture of her father before she found her father. If I saw a picture of my long lost father in a dashiki and knew he was Tribal Chief, I’d think it was an honor and I’d want to know ALL about it. She has plenty of time to crack open a book to learn what I thought everyone was taught in grammar school.

            Boston: please get your facts straight before you accuse me of anything.

            • MAMAZ says:

              I think this has been a misunderstanding. All the talk of racism has made everyone overly sensitive. Combined with the fact that you can’t hear the persons tone of voice on the computer which made both Boston and Waxdiva think the other person was attacking them.

              • Waxdiva says:

                I didn’t feel attacked at all until Boston’s last post when she falsely accused me; I thought we were having a pleasant conversation!

                At this point, I hope everyone here knows that I was not ‘hateful’ nor aggressive. That simply is not me. I appreciate everyone’s input and will now put this to rest. Just please do not accuse me of something and run. I will always ‘talk it out.’
                Thanks everyone!

            • fifi says:

              Relax, baby.

    • Squirrels says:

      Enjoy the eve Boston. If you get out at all, please enjoy a walk in southie for me. If you meet up w/my cousin Wayne, tell him he owes me a phone call! He’s in JP, but often works in your neck of the woods.

    • CdnFillie says:

      “dragged in to the hatefest in a sideways fashion by anyone turning my questions around like I’m some kind of ignorant idiot.”

      I agree Boston…it makes me uncomfortable around here

    • Squirrels says:

      BTW, Way way down stream in this thread, I give you credit where credit is due. I think you may have turned my own sense of self and what is important on my own ear. You’ll know what I mean once you catch up. I’m old, but am not outside of the learning curve.

      I admire and thank you.

  25. realminkey says:

    I for one, am very happy this franchise is done with its season, and hope it doesn’t return. I wasn’t interested in any of the storylines, had no empathy for any of the characters, hated the lack of humor, and was bothered by the mixture of Bravolebrity with politics. And then of course, there are the sociopathic Salahis, who should be locked up. The cast of this show can all fall off a cliff, as far as I’m concerned. Goodbye after the reunion, DC, and hope to never see you again.

  26. quincyil says:

    I have never been one to beat a dead horse. That’s an old saying from the times that animal cruelty was the norm. I feel that way about slamming Michaele. Can’t we pity her at this point? She made up a story about being a cheerleader and was found to be lying in her own book and by the Washington press. She gatecrashed the White House even though she has email that confirm she had a discussion about attending the event. The has been proven beyond doubt during a Congressional Inquiry similar to the Spanish Inquisition where they took the Fifth. They were shown to be fake over the grape stomp, they crashed the Black Caucus Dinner, and had a joy ride with Stacy looking for houses that she told us they did not give evidence they could afford. What is Michaele to do? I’m surprised she can stand up. Honestly, let’s pity her and leave her be. She is a Human being and she’s bleeding. Three women attacking Michaele was beating a dead horse.

    I respect Stacy more and more. She defended her long time friend, Erica, telling us that Cat’s behavior caused Erica to react in such a way. She told us that Cat brought her children into the war zone. I believe Stacy. She was trying to be on both sides and she seems to be attempting to tell us the truth.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I am torn.

      I respect what you are saying about Michaela. And yes, I’m not sure that I could have held up in the Hearings or even on the show with as much…grace?…chuztpah?…as she has. She has held her head up high, even as her cast mates are basically calling for prison time for her and her husband.

      In some of the scenes, she is so hopeful about her future: “there will be many more state dinners to come!” that you almost have to look away from the TV because it’s just so cringeworthy.

      BUT @quincy these two charlatans have NEVER expressed the slightest remorse for basically disrupting the first State dinner that Obama had. He will never have another 1st state dinner and they robbed him of his moment by overshadowing it with their controversy. And Bravo is somewhat to blame as well. Not to mention the security breaches,and the lying, the unpaid bills….

      Why give her a pass when we crucify Dina for not filing the proper tax paperwork for her charity?

      • Buffywood says:

        I am just not big enough of a person yet to feel pity for someone who takes absolutely no responsibility for her own actions. When you live in your own little delusional world, then of course it will appear that everybody in the rational world is against you. I really don’t recall if the other women were proactively going at her, or being responsive to things she had said. There clearly is no dealing rationally with irrational people. Other than removing yourself from her presence (which I think they are all trying to do), they are really between a rock and a hard place.

        Me I hope she fades away into oblivion where she belongs.

    • Dawn says:

      I’m not with you on either point regarding Missy or Stacie.

      I have no pity for Missy precisely because she chose to lie in so many situations. Had she lied once, it would be easier to feel sympathy over the situation she’s facing but it’s a pattern and one over which she easily has control. I also watched the mean, hateful comments she made to Cat and they are of a passive aggressive nature. Stop interspersing your comments of love with hurtful digs about why you are no longer married. Missy is not in a position to know why Charles left and if she was, it would be even more cruel to use the information to taunt Cat.

      Erica was out of line to keep jab, jab, jabbing Cat with mean girl. It was embarrassing to see a grown woman behave that way. By defending Erica, Stacie appeared wishy washy at best and lacking in principles at worst. I would expect a hostess to demand that cruel, taunting behavior in her home cease and desist. Sometimes you need to set boundaries for the behavior of your guests. The boundaries should be equal, unbiased, and apply to all- not just those who are not your faves.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Agree Dawn. I see her choosing to be oblivious . I have no pity.

      • quincyil says:

        I have compassion for people in trouble even if it is of their own making.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          I may have agreed with you Quincy if Michaele hadn’t attacked Cat the way she did.

          Where is the compasion for Cat? She left her home, thousands of miles away and was left alone the majority of the time. Yes, that was of her own making but she was in pain and going through a divorce and Michaele ripped her apart. “At least I have a husband” What? That is just cruel! I have a lot more compassion for Cat than I do for Michaela.

          She was caught lying about the Redskins Cheerleading thing but instead of coming clean she said that she was told by someone else to say that. She STILL won’t own up to her lies, even when caught red handed.

          • quincyil says:

            I think Cat is damaged. This is not her first failed relationship. Cat practises transference as a pattern. She is unhappy living in Chevy Chase. The hated, desperate housewives dress in spandex and carry bags of poo back and forth. Cat is unhappy about her marriage falling apart so a mean girl discussion annilates her. She took the feelings about Charles and transferred them to Erica. Stacy was paying attention to the discussion in her home and she stated that things Cat said over time lead to the outburst from Erica. Cat really feels she is the victim in her first marriage, the victim of Charles in her second marriage and the victim of anyone who responds to her negative comments. I think Cat is aggressive, but never passive. I tend to stay away from women like this because they will step over you to get what they want.

            I have compassion for Cat, but like Michaele she has brought this upon herself.

            • nathania says:

              I suspect Cat is a bit more like Michaele than she would like to admit, at least according to her reputation in the British press.

        • Dawn says:

          I have compassion for those who admit their mistakes. Those who will continue to deny and lie about them, not so much.

      • fifi says:

        Agreed. There was no excuse for Stacie’s support of Erika.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Was the ‘dead horse’ Sparkle?

    • Squirrels says:

      As to Mikey? No. No more than I would give a pass to BSC (BatShitCrazy) KKB. Her attitude of I love love for loves sake and therefore expect to get away with any and everything including paying my bills leaves me cold.

      While it is easy to attribute her actions with a medical/psychological diagnosis, the fact remains, grifters have been part of the world fabric since the beginning of recorded history. She’s been outed and is culpable for her own actions, even if she was only following hubby’s lead (which I doubt). What I don’t doubt is she would be hard pressed to ever abandon him should any criminal charges (for whatever) befall them. That in and of itself is a psych discussion way beyond my pay grade. Still, they are grifters to my way of understanding and do not get to pass go, nor collect $200 – at least not MY $200.

    • nathania says:

      I don’t think she’s deserving of pity. She is conscienceless and incapable of admitting her lies. She will come back with a new angle to work…when she’s in her grave Michaele Salahi’s zombie hand will reach up through the dirt holding a piece of paper that says “bridge for sale” or something similar. She’s completely pathological and without contrition HOWEVER she will work the pity angle if it’s profitable for her. If it becomes her only option, she will wrap her talons around it and take to the skies…and swoop down on her next group of suckers. It’s a mistake to pity a sociopath, because you are nothing but a mark to them and while you are going ‘poor dear’ they are sizing you up and tallying up their list of how much they can take you for.

  27. American Idiot says:

    I understand what you are saying Q, and to a certain extent I do agree it’s time to stop berating the Salahi’s. But I just have to say this about them. They ignore all the criticisms about them, and believe only the good things. M even said last night that no one hates them, except the 3 women on the couch. They actually believe no other people in DC despise them. They see the complimentary comments on their blogs and facebook, and choose to believe them, and ignore all bad press
    . They truly believe they are good, kind people. When Michaele says in the previews that no one lost their job over the gate crashing, it just goes to show they ignore the negative and believe only the positive. We all know Desiree Rodgers was let go over the whole incident. But they will never, ever acknowledge that.

    If they were truly sorry about what happened, they would say so. But they never have. They continue to believe they are fabulous, have tons of supporters, and anyone who says one negative thing about them is labeled a hater, or has no love in their life, or is full of darkness, and not living in the light.

    Yes, it is time to leave them be, but not because they are beaten down. It’s because they live in their own little insular world, and they allow only people who love them in.

    • Buffywood says:

      “They actually believe no other people in DC despise them. They see the complimentary comments on their blogs and facebook, and choose to believe them, and ignore all bad press. They truly believe they are good, kind people. ”

      Substitute NJ for DC and you could be talking about Teresa!

      Well said. The lack of honesty or any self awareness blows my mind.

    • quincyil says:

      Survival mode. When the weight of all of your sins come crashing on your head, you bury that head in the sand to survive. After the gate crashing, the Salahis hid in their own home. There were death threats. I think they know the truth and can’t admit it because of the legal jeopardy that may follow.

      We saw Michaele cry when she talked about good times and bad after her husband spoke to the sheriff at Oasis. We saw her pain at the reunion. She didn’t take a Human life. She married and found herself in a whirlwind of financial troubles. She embellished and found that her stories were revealed to be untrue. Paul Warton knows her and he thought she might not survive this.

      • American Idiot says:

        Yes, you are right Q. But have they come out of this as better people. Have they learned anything? Have they evolved. Have the come out of this debacle as better people. I don’t think so. Based on the previews for next week’s reunion, they are still in cover-up, we were invited, everyone is a hater mode.

        You, Q, are a better person than I. I find myself unable to find anything good, worthwhile or endearing about these 2.

        • quincyil says:

          People don’t have to acknowledge that they have changed, but we all react to circumstances. I saw that the men were on the floor next week and that the Salahis are arguing with people. I know enough about my own weaknesses to accept the weaknesses in others even if they won’t admit them.

          It is probably more insulting to the Salahis for me to say that I pity them, than to be accusatory or angry at their behaviors.

          I feel that Cat was a damaged woman long before the DC filming. She is cruel and cannot accept that other will react to her taunts.

          Cat said that Charles wanted her in Chevy Chase and did not introduce her to anyone for two years. That is a stunning revelation. That’s why the dis invitation to the Christmas Party was so much more devastating. She finally had her opportunity to enter society and the Salahis affected the White House decision to disinvite her.

          I think Cat was annilated in DC, but not by Erica. I think her whole world crashed and Erica got the blame.

          • American Idiot says:

            I’m not sure I understand what you mean in your first sentence, Q.

            • quincyil says:

              We know the Salahis were affected by all of this. They might not admit guilt, but you can see it in their behavior. Again, they have not been charged with a crime, but they know a misstep can result in charges being filed. Paul Warton can see Michaele stress and from her behavior, I see it too.

          • nathania says:

            I would still like to see Erica on there next season. Her voice has a beautiful cadence and she can come across as very genuine. I know I have repeatedly made the mistake in my life of being codependent to the point that I will publicly defend someone over grievances they have told me in private…I imagine what happend with Erica was Mary confided in her, probably more than once, that Cat’s comments about Lolly were hurtful. Erica, taking Mary at her word and tired of seeing her friend hurt, lashed out. It’s a great example of why it’s important to let people fight their own battles…because sometimes when it comes down to brass tacks they wimp out on you, even when you are coming to their defense.

        • MAMAZ says:

          I’m not sure she “found herself in a whirlwind of financial trouble” so much as she helped create a whirwind of financial trouble just like Teresa Guidice.
          I admire your compassion but they owe a lot of money to a lot of people. Like the hair stylist she never paid for the extensions.
          As Dawn said it’s a pattern of behavior and many people have been hurt by them.

          • quincyil says:

            I believe she has a responsibility to make sure the extensions and other goods are paid for in a timely fashion. When it comes to spending, she was dead wrong.

      • Dawn says:

        Admit your mistakes. It’s good for your soul. To my knowledge, there are no legal ramifications for telling the truth about being a cheerleader. Do I wish Missy ill will? No, but the truth will set you free. I don’t enable liars. It’s not healthy for me and it’s not healthy for them. The crushing weight could begin to dissipate with the freedom that comes from being herself rather than who she wishes she was.

        Missy isn’t a victim. Missy is a perpetrator and there are real victims that suffered as a result of her lies. Apologizing to those she’s wronged is a good start.

        • nathania says:

          I agree. I have a feeling that Missy/Michaele has been this way here entire life. She uses feminine wiles to make herself the victim and if it turns out that the Salahis are in ruins permanently she will exit this relationship and spew all over the press how ‘abused’ she was by him. I don’t buy it, nor do I look forward to hearing her tale of woe. Tareq attacked Mary because he felt that Mary was attacking Michaele. At the party where his wine cork hit Lynda, that apparently was in retribution for something Lynda said about Michaele. For some reason this woman stirs him to go to ridiculous lengths in defense of her. She is a viper and a true black widow, most probably.

          It helps that I have a sister-in-law who is similarly built and uses many of the same behaviors to manipulate the living daylights out of every man that crosses her path. Tall, blonde, long-legged, and hell on wheels. I just thank god that Michaele Salahi never became a mother, because I have seen firsthand how narcissists like her “parent” children, and it’s heartbreaking on a daily basis.

          • Squirrels says:

            Remember her opening of each show. I paraphrase…. People cannot say no to me and that’s my blessing.

            Huh? That’s a psych dissection course all its own.

    • quincyil says:

      I think something is very wrong with the Salahis if she is always with her husband and that question from Andy makes her emotional to the point that she is unable to speak. Apparently, Tareq was pacing where the women could see him pacing. He said in the promo that he wanted to defend Michaele. Michaele states that Tareq dad was very loving with her. Corrine, Tareq’s mom was very aggressive with suits and calling the sheriff on her son. We also know that Tareq was sent to military school for high school. Boys are sent to military school for discipline. The other women did not say Tareq was physcially abusing Michaele , but their desire to have their significant others on stage made me think that they have concerns about his aggressive behavior and the possibility of more than verbal attacks. Paul Warton suggested that at the Congress, Michaele could free herself from Tareq. It’s possible that he is holding her hostage in the basement. Women in abusive situations do try to make things look wonderful. I’ve witnessed this behavior.

      • Dawn says:

        No offense, Quincy, but it’s speculation on your part about abuse. I have experienced it so I’m not trying to diminish what you say or believe. I’m also not ready to absolve Missy of the consequences of her actions. Missy has a platform and people who have expressed concern for her. Now would be a good time to get help. If she is truly being abused, and I’m not at all convinced that she is, that doesn’t absolve her of the role she plays or her own actions. Taunting Cat about the dissolution of her marriage? Totally her choice. Accepting personal responsibility for your actions is necessary and can be difficult. She may need professional help in order to do so. Lying and denying aren’t working for her and if she feels bad about herself then she needs to analyze what she’s done to contribute to those feelings. Often we feel bad precisely because we SHOULD feel bad when we’ve done harm to others or lied.

        • quincyil says:

          There are forms of abuse. Jeff Lewis abuses his employees. He verbally attacks them. I think control as Simon in OC exerted over Tamra is a form of abuse. I think a man lying about money is abuse as in the case of Mr. Curtin.

          I don’t think Tareq hits Michaele, but never leaving her side is controlling and abuse, in my opinion.

          • quincyil says:

            Somewhere on this board is a link to an article about the Salahis about their early relationship. She was dating different men and when he came along, Tareq was single minded plying her with gifts and wanting her attention. That is love at first sight, but for that intensity of love to continue for so many years speaks of disfunction to me. To speak of each other as one, is abnormal.

  28. Adgirl says:

    Who else has been uncomfortable with Stacie continually throwing her birth mother under the race bus by implying her white birth mother has shunned Stacie due to her darker skin color?
    That has bothered me a lot because we don’t and never will know what the circumstances are, but are lead to believe it’s racial.

    I was a bit disappointed because I like Stacie the most of the DC group, her home life and career are the most natural. I also find her to be personally the warmest.

    Also, should was call Jason the Nigerian Embassy Crasher?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      you know I have often wondered if maybe the Nigerian father was the one that didn’t want Stacie to know who he was- not the other way around.

      We assume (or Stacie assumes) that because the birth mother is white that her family would have a problem with a mixed racial relationship and subsequent offspring but what if it was the other way around?

      I agree with your disappointment. Stacie was the one I was the most interested in seeing because of her educational background and her success in RE.

    • quincyil says:

      I would love to know if Stacy’s dad had two wives when Stacy was created. If so, mayby bio mom was unprepared to live in polygamy.

      I would not give up my baby, but I respect women who give birth and allow the children to be adopted by women and men who really want to be parents.

    • emt2 says:

      Stacie was in contact with her mother first. Her mother explained the circumstances of her birth and said that she didn’t want Stacie to disrupt her current family life. The mother also said, according to Stacie, that she was put up for adoption because she was mixed, among other reasons. The birth mother also said that the birth father didn’t even know that Stacie existed so that answers your question about whether it was the dad who didn’t want Stacie. He didn’t even know she existed.

      So, how is Stacie throwing her mother under the “race” bus when she is just stating a fact? Why was her birth father so excited to see her and connect her with her extended family? Her birth mother was the exact opposite.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        I wondered if the birth mother was telling her the truth? that the father didn’t even know she was pregnant in an attempt to head Stacie off at the pass in looking for her father at all.

        People do weird things and lie about crazy stuff. I don’t know if I believe that Stacie’s birth mother is a credible source of information about her father and his family.

  29. Adgirl says:

    BH ladies are rather strange. After seeing their lifestyles I am completely not envious. It’s as if after attaining the lifestyle and social standing the spend every waking moment starving and grooming themselves to hold onto it.

    The sisters are each dysfunctional and together have a creepy mean spirited relationship.

    • cusi77 says:

      Adgirl_ You are so right! They have an ugly relationship, I felt ashamed for them!

    • I’m certainly not envious of a lifestyle where I feel pressured to get plastic surgery after plastic surgery so I can permanently “look young,” but end up looking like the Joker with an overbite & fat lips (Taylor) instead. There are a few procedures that don’t detract from your natural looks, but after too many, you start looking like a ghoul.

      • Cammie says:

        totally agree. And that description of Taylor is right on! Does she not see that she looks like a freak?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          She looks like Skeletor – no way can she think she looks pretty, sexy or natural! Jeff Lewis is calling and he wants his lips back! IMO, she should be worried about her husband looking for another trophy wife….

      • AZ Girl says:

        I turn on the tv right when she was getting injections in her face and forehead. Yikes. It was crazy. Taylor does look like Jack Nicholson as the Joker.

  30. floridagirl88 says:

    For the first time last night I found myself understanding Stacie and agreeing with her. By mentioning discomfort I don’t think she implied racism, but something more akin to social awkwardness in an unfamiliar setting. Stacie’s friend however was race baiting and Stacie knows it. Cat does seem not to know what to do or how to behave in a room full of black people, most notably when Stacie’s relatives had her over to their home. Cat behaved horribly, rudely, and I think she escaped because she didn’t know how to relate. That is not racism. She wasn’t the bright star in the room, didn’t understand (or try to understand) people who are different from her nor did she make any attempt to find common ground. And she left without thanking Stacie’s relatives, the hosts for the get-together. Not racism, more ignorant than anything.

    As for her friendship with Erika, haven’t we all had that friend or relative that embarrasses you, yet you love them all the same? There are stories I could tell you involving my 92 year old aunt, but I won’t and I will still love her, just leave her home sometimes for the sake of peace.

    As a black woman I can understand many of the dynamics that were going on on those couches last night. Stacie didn’t throw Mary under the bus, but I assure you from my own experiences that sometimes people don’t realize that what they are saying is insulting or insensitive and again, it can be awkward to point that out. Until you have experienced many of the myriad ways that well-meaning and not so well meaning people sling racist arrows while claiming to speak to truth (which they think absolves them from being racially insensitive), it may be hard to understand the dynamics of last night’s reunion. Stacie did well last night and I was proud of her for speaking her mind. Should only Cat or Mary or Linda or the Salami’s be allowed to tell their truth while Stacie sits and plays nice?

    When Michaele struck back at Cat last night, I had to stand up in front of the TV! In a way, she just gave back what had been given to her. Those women thought they were going to beat Michaele into submission and she swung back! It was a wow moment. Tacky for sure, but since everyone was hitting her where it hurts, she just gave back as good as she got. Wow is all I could say.

    Mary seemed brain dead most of the season. I still don’t feel like I learned anything about her. She drinks too much, slurs her words and never understood why her statement about multi-racial hair salons can be thought of as a, um, stupid idea. Not racist, just kinda stupid. I’ve seen it work, but mostly I’ve seen where it didn’t work.

    Of course Michaele faked cried. She was exposed and didn’t know what else to do! When the tears didn’t work, she stopped faking. She was hurt for sure, but she put her behavior out there for the world to judge.

    As an aside, if I recall correctly, Stacie’s bio mother didn’t want to tell her anything initially about her father for fear of her family finding out she had a black child (talk about racist!) Stacie was adopted and so her adoptive parents may not have had much helpful info to share with her. The only reason to contact her half brother would have been to put pressure on her bio mother to give up some information. I don’t think that was fair, but I understand that she was desperate to learn something, anything. Jason slipping into the embassy was funny to me, even if it broke some rules because maybe previous attempts to find help had been unsuccessful and he knew if he went in person he could charm them or help them see why it was so important.

    • shaigyrl says:

      Your feelings regarding empathy towards this race issue with Stacie is similar to what I posted above in reply to someone else. There will never be a clear understanding until one walks in someone else’s shoes and it appearance we’ve both been there. Lol.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I agree Floridagirl. Stacie was great on that couch trying her best to explain away Cat’s rudeness vs. racist behaviour. For Cat to want Stacie to absolve her of the racist label she received elsewhere was ridiculous. Stacie, calling Cat rude and insensitive, vs. being a racist did let her off the hook. Cat knowingly using the word “colored” and laughing it off as a joke, coupled with calling Erica insulting animal names, probably caused more resentment from Stacie.

      And yes, seeing as I can’t tolerate Cat, I loved loved loved it when Michaele slapped the salmon across Cat’s face, LOL, and did they old “at least I have a husband” line! LOL Crazy old Cat was not expecting that comeback was she? Delicious! She can dish it, but she can’t take it!

    • Adgirl says:

      I was never clear that Stacie’s bio-mom stated anything about it being about skin color. Did Stacie assume it?

      We are lead to believe it’s because Stacie is not white.

      • floridagirl88 says:

        More like because Stacie is black and a product of an obvious sexual relationship with a black man. Had Stacie been able to pass for white, her mother likely would have kept her and just explained away the father. As it is, well, it is what it is.

  31. lillybee says:

    Lynne. Thank you for the blog. I missed last night so I am happy to know what happened.

    • quincyil says:

      I am going to miss this house. My husband isn’t about to move to California and pay millions for a house, but I would have loved to live in Valley Oak.

  32. Smompy says:

    I guess I’m with the majority in the way I feel about Stacie now. I think Lynn put it best when she used the term “passive-aggressive.” If the woman just OWNED what she was putting out there, I’d respect her a lot more.

    It’s kinda true that Cat can dish it out a lot better than she can take it, but that Erika is still a shit-stirring bitch. In what little Bravo showed us of that party scene, Cat was NOT doing or saying anything different from what everybody else in the room was doing and/or saying, yet Erika attacked only Cat, and she did it repeatedly. As soon as it became clear that Stacie had no intention of intervening (great hostessing, Stacie!), I felt like Cat should have shut Erika’s ass down herself, in no uncertain terms. You can’t keep volleying back and forth with people like that. You have to make a serious lunge with something sharp. Unfortunately Cat seems to get flustered very easily, especially considering that she often has such a cutting tongue herself. She wasn’t even particularly adept at responding to Michaele’s inane assertions at the reunion…although she was of course more honest than the salami.

    BYW Erika, your heroine Tyra Banks may be good at making money, but she IS in fact an obnoxious, egomaniacal asshole and very few people who know her actually like her. Period.

    Does anyone happen to know how long ago Michaele changed her name from Michelle? A couple articles I read make it sound like she did this VERY recently….but I don’t know what to believe with that one.

    Apparently I’ve become way cynical aftyer living with the interwebs because knowing the country Stacie’s father lives in and hearing that he now expects to be paid a dowry, my mind immediately went to “Nigerian Scam Number 27346.33”!!!!!

    And this about Lynda:
    “She may not like the title “cougar” but I don’t think she can dodge it, her boyfriend Ebong is just 35 years old, what was formerly called “robbing the cradle”….”

    Well, it could be seen as a case of Lynda robbing the cradle, but it might also be viewed as a case of Ebong robbing the tomb!

    • Waxdiva says:

      ‘robbing the tomb’…ouch!

    • Buffywood says:

      In regards to Tyra Banks, I didn’t see the episode itself but the reunion did show her imitation. I can tell you I do not like Tyra Banks at all. I used to until her show Next Top Model. My teen daughter loves that show and Tyra is unbelievably rude, abrasive and condescending on it; a total bully. She picks apart every young girl for every pound, mannerism, clothing choice, skin or hair flaw she can find. That is the Tyra I saw in her impression. As the mother of young daughters is that the Tyra she knows?

      • American Idiot says:

        I have to agree with you Buffy. When Cat imitated Tyra, I never thought she was imitating Tyra’s “color” I thought she was imitating Tyra in the sense that Tyra is a ditz, loud, a show off, inappropriate, etc. (I’m not a big Tyra fan)

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Disagree about Stacie but LOVED the “Robbing the Tomb!” . I’ll use it in the future! LOL


      The same way Stacie should have defended Cat against Erica, she should have defended her dinner guests from Cat’s attempt to snidely ruin their evening. She should have told Cat that her guests came there for a wonderful evening and not hear her disapprove of everyone and everything. She gave Cat a pass multiple times, so giving Erica a pass once shouldn’t be that big a deal.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      I like that term “shit-stirring.” Yep, that’s what she did. I wonder how things would have turned out if Cat had risen above the fray instead of engaging in the battle. If either one of them could have just shut up, there would have been no drama. Oh, sorry, that’s what these scenes are all about. Oops.

    • nathania says:

      but now I am wondering about Lynda. Seriously. I think she looks good for 53, she has a wild side…to be honest I would not be at all surprised to find out she has a hidden door behind a bookcase in that suburban McClean home, and it leads down a circular staircase to a dungeon where she and Ebong swap off turns playing master and servant. She is so forceful when she knows she is right and so fearless about making her point that she would make a great dominatrix.

    • Squirrels says:

      Oh crap. I’m 53 and was dating… ok… (insert imagination here) a 37 yr old. It worked because I’d come into my own sexuality and he could keep up with me. Over time, I walked away. Lesson? Never underestimate the power of a woman, regardless of age.

  33. Buffywood says:

    I may be way of base in my views of Stacie last night, but I got the sense she said more of what she thought she should say and not necessarily what she wanted to say. I believe she is a smart woman and (besides agreeing to do the show in the first place) and was very careful with her choice of words; so careful that she sacrificed some honesty along the way.

  34. cusi77 says:

    Did somebody notice Michaela was unusually bad dressed, bad hair… like purposely “dressed to kill” (lol) trying to look ill….? I can’t elaborate for lack of words, but… you know what I mean? Like trying to move compassion… something click me the wrong way! She is a manipulator and also needs her hubby as a crouch.

    • Adgirl says:

      Her outfit was weird – was she wearing over the knee boots? Her magenta dress was not something I would have expected either – too fussy.

      • cusi77 says:

        While Cat, for instance, was wearing that beautiful dress, and in general, The Hw’s dressed so well at the reunion event, (NY< OC…) Michaela never looked in such of disarray! I thought she was going to appear stunning and flashy… instead, somehow shady… perhaps another way to deflect.

    • Ellabean says:

      Cusi, I didn’t really watch the reunion (yet), but I did get a glance at the cast, their clothes, and the setting. I think I know what you are trying to say about Michaela. She usually wears solids in either all ivory, red, or royal blue. Pretty much the same colors on any TV appearance. But last night she was wearing black and more of a conservative dress (for her ). So you might be onto something there – she was perhaps purposely playing up a dour look, versus vibrant and healthy.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Those who once dressed her are no longer doing so! Missy looked underdressed compared to the other ladies and her hair/weave was a straw looking mess!

    • quincyil says:

      Maybe, she didn’ t have donated clothes and she had to shop at Sears like me.

  35. Adgirl says:

    The only smart thing Michaele has said all season was about Cat vs Erika “maybe two women who are alike met each other”.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      agree – they are both “telling it like it is” but doing it in a very rude way! What I never saw was Cat sniping the mean girl at Erika – and I really think Erika was still made that Cat didn’t think Tyra is all that! Pettiness is never pretty.

  36. Adgirl says:

    I think Michaele and Tareq are glued together in order to keep their stories straight and to emotionally support & validate each other’s sick thinking.

    • Waxdiva says:

      They would be a shrink’s answered prayer. In fact, the shrink could live with them 24/7 and never see an end to their neurosis.

    • shaigyrl says:

      Great observation! Do you notice how she always looks at him when she’s speaking as if to get approval as to whether she’s saying the correct thing. And when she’s thrown off and stumbles he’s quick to jump in. When he’s not around, she sticks to that “love” crap.

      • TheDesignDiva says:

        It’s called the ‘confirmation’ look…narcissits ( sp ) especially in a pack like these two..do it all the time…They have to CONFIRM each others falsehoods…I know a couple like this..not gate crashers…but total liars in the whole scheme of life,,They feed off each other and ARE NEVER APART,,,, remember when tarwreck said that apart they are nothing but together they are ONE…I wonder who will be the first to cave,,,and they will cave..its only a matter time…and it aint gonna be pretty,,,,,,

        Hugs and Peace


      • WindyCityWondering says:

        she was doing the confirmation head snap at Stacie last night – must be a reflex action.

  37. Butters'Mom says:

    Great blog as usual and the comments have been interesting. The race/racist talk makes me uncomfortable but I understand it is an important issue for everyone. The “I don’t see color” that some people throw out is absurd we all see color but how we respond to that is the true tell of a person.

    All that aside I really thought the best moment of the reunion was when Linda refused to allow Tareq on the set unless she had Ebong with her. I applauded her having the guts to tell Andy that she wouldn’t sit by and let that happen unless her guy was there too. Why let these white house crashers continue to hyjack the show? Tareq obviously likes to control women (his wife) and attack other women (Mary). I hate to say that women need protection of a man and that is not what I am saying. If it had been me I would need my Joe there to hold me back from attacking that A hole.

    • cusi77 says:

      “Tareq obviously likes to control women ”

      Butters_ Happens that Tareq mistreat women without a man on their side, he has been abusive towards Mary… He showered Lynda with red wine in a dinner in LA before the season 1 started!

    • American Idiot says:

      Did you see the way Andy was tapping his index cards. He was really annoyed. I loved it; and I loved Lynda for speaking out. She had every right, and her reasons made alot of sense to me.

      • Cammie says:

        loved it when Linda stood her ground with Andy, telling him there was NO WAY he could bring out Tareq without the other men!! She was awesome! When Andy said “its ok” and she shot right back “no, it’s not ok”…loved her even more! I was unsure of her until last night-now I think she’s my favorite

        • American Idiot says:

          And she was so right. Why should Tareq be the only man allowed to come out to the couch. Because M was feeling put upon. Well, she choose to do this show and to stick with it. We all know now you can leave (Dina). So to have him come out and no one else is just favoritism. Loved, loved loved Lynda at that moment.

        • nathania says:

          yes, I think they have the benefit of watching Andy Cohen tell Danielle Staub that ‘it will be okay’ when Teresa’s behavior was consistently not okay. It’s telling that not one of these women trusts Cohen to have their safety as a concern…of course how could they feel safe with him after watching Teresa toss him like a rag doll.

    • klmh says:

      Me too! So proud of her, but did you hear Mary bring it up first? She said something like “the only one?” almost under her breath, or something like that, then looked at her. Lynda then began telling Andy how things were going to be handled. Ooo he was pissed 🙂
      i loved it

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Andy was sweating bullets – bring out only Tarq or have Lynda, Mary (think Cat would have followed and so would Stacie) walk off the set…..a real jackhole move on Andy’s part!

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Andy has to remember that this is the man (Tariq) who threw a drink on Lynda as well during their press tour a few months ago.

  38. klmh says:

    This is what confuses my husband and I, in talking about Washington D.C. as “Chocolate City”. He was walking into the kitchen and heard that term, and was floored. Me too.
    I am from one of the plains states and let me tell you, “C.C.” would not fly here! No one has remarked on this term and Im surprised because, to me, that is so much more offensive than black or colored.
    Is this a new term that has been accepted by the majority of the U.S.? No joking and no offense.
    I may need to get out more…

    • Adgirl says:

      During Katerina catastrophe Mayor Nagin referred to NO as CC.

      • klmh says:

        You’re right. Thats where I heard it first.
        It was on last night and I thought someone might have been angered by that term as well, but apparently not.
        I agree with Mamaz, not a good choice for a description, imo.
        Thanks to all that responded to my question.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Your right klmh. I don’t approve of that expression.

    • realminkey says:

      The first time I recall hearing that term, it was during Katrina when Mayor Nagin referred to New Orleans as such. It created quite a bit of controversy.

      (I’m taking a back seat to everyone else today on all of this. I’ve got a killer cold, and I’m sure staying up last night after stirring things up didn’t help. Cough.)

    • floridagirl88 says:

      The term has been around a long time and only means the city is predominately black. DC has been known as Chocolate City for as long as I can remember, same as Detroit is known as Motor City, Baltimore is Charm City, etc.

    • TrillianAlice says:

      Chocolate City is only used in D.C. and only by African Americans.

    • LurkerAlso says:

      I was thinking the same thing. I don’t think it’s a good term to be throwing around.

      • IMJ says:

        That term has been used in the black community for decades. Regardless of if you agree with it or not, we use that term to refer to DC.

  39. Adgirl says:

    Lynda has Tareq’s number (is it 666?).

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Lynda is what we call a Class A Ball Buster – she isn’t about to let that man have a free hand in the franchise – with very good reason. I have always liked her but last night I did clap for her.

      • nathania says:

        I loved Linda last night. One interesting thing about her is that she is dual-purpose…she is perfectly reasonable in situations where people are being well-mannered and polite, and the girl can bring it when it’s necessary without a moment of hesitation. This is a strong characteristic when Bravo seems for whatever reason to cast mostly unbalanced folks who veer to one side or the other and fake the rest of it.

        I loved that Andy Cohen was completely speechless when she told him ‘no Ebong, no Tareq’. This chica has cojones…and she seems like a genuinely nice person. I also love that she ‘came out’ about being a former pothead, lol. I love unpredictable people who are not afraid to own what they are.

  40. MAMAZ says:

    Aww, sorry you have a cold minkey. Get into your jammies early and have a hot toddy. Or two. Or three.

    • realminkey says:

      I wish I could. My mother is taking a leave from her assisted living residence, and staying with us for the weekend. In other words, it’s up to me to assist her living. I love her dearly, but she’s always been pretty high maintenace – even before she got old. lol

      • Cammie says:

        hope you feel better minkey. My mother lives with me (and she was always high maintenence too) and caring for someone when you’re sick is the pits. Tea and rest! Chicken soup!

        • realminkey says:

          Thanks Cammie and MAMAZ. My mother has all her wits about her, and is actually in pretty good shape, considering some of the problems she’s had. She’s in assisted living mainly because of all the meds she takes, and the need to monitor her/them. She comes to visit about once a month, and she sees it as her opportunity to indulge- kinda like her version of staying at the Four Seasons, or something. Martinis (rationed, lol), french cheese and non-institutional cooking. And then there’s the maid service I provide, of course.

        • Buffywood says:

          Serious question to the both of you… Are your high maintenance mothers even more demanding if you let them know that you don’t feel well or are tired? My mom passed away last year and she was living with me at the time. I swear if I told her I was not feeling great or was going to take a little nap or relax her demands increased. I mentioned it before… My mom unfortunately had a little Jill Zarin in her.

          • Cammie says:

            my mother was high maintenence emotionally. We never saw eye to eye or understood one another when I was growing up-yet I always knew I would be the one to take her in if need be. She is now a much more docile person and she seems to truly appreciate the fact that I care for her daily-but she doesn’t interract with me much, probably due to senility. She had a very difficult childhood herself, so I try to think of that when I start to feel like a ‘motherless child’ lol.

            • Ellabean says:

              Cammie, that was very profound: it is important to think what our parents went through when they were children. That has always helped me get perspective when I am frustrated with my own mother.

          • Ellabean says:

            Buffy, I am so sorry you lost your mother last year.

            Real, I am gald you mom has you. Can you raise a glass and enjoy a strong hot toddy with her?

          • realminkey says:

            Buffywood, Boy oh boy, I could write a book on this one! We have a complex relationship, to say the least. She has never really shown much empathy or nurturing regarding any problems of any sort that I might have. As a result, I’ve grown a very thick skin. Not the same for my sister, who is the prodigal daughter and has been the center of my mom’s attention for decades. I have been raising my sister’s two children for going on 6 years now. See what I mean?… somewhat complex, to say the least!

            She’s helping herself to her first martini, as I write. lol

            • realminkey says:

              Make that, my husband and I have been raising the children. I don’t mean to make it seem as if I’ve been doing it totally alone.

  41. Olivia says:

    I give up.

    We are arguing our own beliefs against a “manufactured” series through a group of women who are short on integrity.

    Cat is rude and a bully in her own right. Mary is basically comatose and adds nothing to the cast. Lynda is an aging phony with a fistful of pretension. Michaele is completely delusional. Stacie is self righteous. These are the people the blog is fighting over.

    We have no idea of how much of the “racial overtone” has been inserted by Bravo to add some sense of “topical discourse” to this series but we can acknowledge that much of what these series have suggested are huge helpings of “make believe” drama.

    Without the Salahi’s misadventures this particular franchise would have been one big bore from start to finish so it would be completely understandable from Bravo’s slanted point of view to make this one into more of a “cultural experiment” just to prove that they were up to it. You can only “table flip” so many times.

    Slamming one another over a program that has no redeemable features to celebrate is going to lead to hard feelings that are otherwise difficult to overcome.

    • MAMAZ says:

      It doesn’t matter if the show is manufactured. The subject is still very real. It’s no different than discussing characters from a novel, play or movie.
      Most of the posts have been very respectful. I only read one post that I found truly offensive. I don’t see people slamming each other.

      • klmh says:

        Agree 100%. This is a form of education for all of us, to see what others from different parts of the US think about things. Good discussions and a great learning experience, for me anyway.
        We all have our bad days, but it shouldn’t deter us from expressing our points of view. Maybe just stepping back a few feet when the discussion gets a bit heated or reposting the next day, as others have mentioned on this blog. Has worked for me thats for sure.

    • quincyil says:

      I’d love to see what was on the cutting room floor. Olivia, I bet you could make a story with the left overs that was quite compelling.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      Sstill, using the word “colored” and then arguing that it was intended, won’t win you any friends, real or imagined.

      • klmh says:

        I disagree. He knows Cat and took it in jest, as she meant it.

        I think about all the things these ladies say throughout their filming and this one comes out. If you know and love someone you certainly have the right to kid around with them, especially when this type of subject is being discussed. I am not a Cat fan, but I saw the humor in her remark, and so did he.

    • Squirrels says:

      Do I have opinions? Hell yes. Is this above my pay grade? Yes. I got smackdowned on Twitter with some self proclaimed major blogger who drew the “Mongoloid” card on me this week, then deleted her tweets. This is the first time in my son’s lifetime that term has been used in a derogatory manner to me. I was floored. So here is what I hope to do.

      Dear, darling Boston planted the seed. I have enough of a background in documentary stills and a bit in film and a few connections to pull together a PSA based on “the word”. (I defer to Boston to repost the link and her involvement. Credit due to her.) I have the storyboards, have a group get together this Sunday of many folk in the film industry to garner attention and perhaps find pre-production help – have contacted Special Olympics and await their response.

      I guess what I’m saying is, I’m done bitching. It’s time for me to act. My cause does not have to mean much to many, which is fine – but it’s mine. The same can be said for Olivia’s response. One must decide what is important enough to make you act, not just bitch. I’ve done enough of that here and elsewhere.

      The so called woman who chose to try to harm me and mine with the Mongoloid slur, awakened the tiger. I’ve been rather quiet w/my writings (those who know-know. And I’m not looking to advertise AT ALL). Time to take it all down. I left the comments.

      • Squirrels says:

        I also have appreciated all those who have encouraged me and supported me in my personal endeavor. Your words have been more valuable than you will ever know. Still, it’s time to put my indignance in check. I have bigger fish to fry and must rise to that level.


      • truelifediva says:

        Hey Squirrels. I don’t know if you recall or not but I work with mentally challenged adults and I live in your neck of the woods. If you are looking for local contacts, I can help you with that. Let me know if you need help with your PSA.

      • boston02127 says:

        Squirrels—I’m sorry about the twitter incident.

        Here is the link to Spread the Word to End the Word.

        • Squirrels says:

          I hope everyone clicks on it boston 😀 I’m already in contact with them.

        • twoile says:

          Boston thank U 4 the excellent resource, I’ve always used the term of challenged vs diabilities…& Squirrels so very sorry you were treated so meanspiritedly…that term is antiquated & I can only think so is the person using it…pity the fool!

  42. emt2 says:


    Dina’s style is so tacky. lol But she must have a good stylist.

    Okay, back to work. lol

  43. realminkey says:

    Bedazzled pumpkins, but of course! All I can think of when I see her house, is what a nightmare it must be to dust all that stuff. And can’t you just smell the potpouri she must have all over the place?

  44. Janie says:

    Totally off subject, but I wanted to let everyone know, when I got home from the hospital today there were two boxes on my diningroom table. They were wigs from Jean who posts here often. How do you thank a total stranger who reaches out you with such kindness. It was perfect and since I’m now totally bald (yes, everywhere) they will get a lot of use.

    • American Idiot says:

      That’s a great story. Janie and Jean – You are awesome!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Janie? are you justanotherMary? how are you feeling?

    • realminkey says:

      That was such a special act of kindness. Wow.

    • Ellabean says:

      Wonderful that you two made the connection here.:)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      You remain in our hearts and prayers – Jean is a special lady and what she did for you is an example to all of us!

      • justanothermary says:

        Thank you all for your kind words, prayers and support. I’m overwhelmed.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Mary – That’s the lovliest thing I’ve heard all day. Hell, all month.
        Very pleased for you.
        Jean- if you are lurking God bless you!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      What a wonderful post and gesture.

      I think hope this is the type of treatment and interaction we can all aspire to.

      • justanothermary says:

        Going through a serious illness has made me feel very isolated. The support group I thought had my back all left when the going got rough. I don’t really blame them, cancer is ugly. But just the thought of so many strangers reaching out through cyber space with prayers, good wishes and kindness is something I will take with me for the rest of my life. Thank you all.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I would love to talk with you off line, but don’t want you to feel pressured. If you’d like to contact Lynn to get my email address, I’d love for you to have it.

        • IMJ says:

          God Bless You.

  45. codystl says:

    I agree 100% on your impression of Mary. I left a comment to Cat on the Bravo site to that affect. After watching the Erika slam to Cat, I was like for God’s sake Mary, stand up for SOMETHING!

    I’m not warming up to Stacie. She inferred that Cat doesn’t like black people, but won’t admit that her words imply that Cat is a racist. The other thing that bothers me is her continued support of Erika’s behavior. I don’t care if she thinks Erika was right or wrong, as the host of the party she needed to diffuse that situation. It wasn’t the time nor place.

    I’m new to your blog and love it!

  46. Susu says:

    What do u guys think about Jill Zarin’s “latest” idea to get some free family vacations on 5 star ships plus earning extra money by going on a cruise with her left friends????
    I think this woman brought using her whatever she thinks she has for free stuff to the next level!!!

    And…now as Cat gets divorced… does she even will be allowed to stay in the US for another season??? Working permit, etc???

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      Who wants to go on a cruise with Jill and her family? Jill posted this on Facebook:

      Jill Zarin : I just posted a poll. We couldn’t decide which to invite you all on. So we MIGHT do both. Early February with my parents. ALL INCLUSIVE, even excursions, from Miami 7 nights. Exclusive ship. The other is for Bobby’s Birthday on a BIG ship out of NYC! to Bahamas. Spring Break end of March Bring all the kids and grandkids! We are!

      • Susu says:

        hope she will be all alone with her parents on the cruise… cuz even if there r some fan who want to go with her which i still can’t understand…i don’t think they all have 5000 dollar per person for a 7 day trip….(she wrote this price a couple of weeks ago) This is just crazy expensive…especially cuz u will need a vacation afterwards!!!!!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I think $5000 is outrageous- and I am think all her ‘fans’ who said they have that kind of cash to spend PP are full of it.

      • Squirrels says:

        Just so you understand how cruises work from the business end. Most times, (numbers change with cruise company) 5 pay and the 6th goes for free. This is multiplied out so after 10 pay, #11 & 12 go free, etc.

        She’s just oh so clever. Jill, ya little scamp, you.

      • Squirrels says:

        I think the best thing to happen in the cruise scenario is 4 people sign up, forcing Jill to pay for her own trip as well as hang out and entertain her “fans”.

        I can see her hair turning grey over that one. How delightful!

  47. Update on Ginger cat—

    Sorry I’m getting back to this so late to the boards. Ginger did very well through the surgery and by the time we brought her home (around 4 pm yesterday) she was ready to go outside. LOL! Of course, she can’t go out for a while and we may be walking her on a harness until her cheek heals almost completely because the young cat next door, Freckles, who is a beautiful tortie, likes to play with (read aggravate the stuffing out of) Ginger and tends to roughhouse with her sometimes.

    Little Lily was so happy her big sissy was home and did aggravate her a bit too much. Jasmine Flower took one sniff of Ginger’s cheek, hissed and took a swipe at her then ran. Guess it’s too traumatic for her to sniff any hospital smells. Jak hasn’t bothered her at all and guess that’s his gift to welcome her home as he’s always jumping on her to make her scream.

    We’re just waiting for the test result which should be back in about a week.

    Thank you so much to everyone who shared a kind word and your prayers for Ginger. 🙂

  48. quincyil says:

    Does anyone remember that Lynda was hit with a champaigne cork when Taraq was hosting Paul’s birthday party? He knew that Lynda has said those things to Paul by that time. Maybe, it was more deliberate than not, since he did throw wine on Linda later.

    I think Taraq is very dark behind that smile.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I don’t know what to think about these two anymore.
      At first I thought she was the victim and he was controlling.
      And then after the last episode- I completely changed my mind.
      After the reunion, back to thinking she may be a victim of him again.
      maybe they victimize each other? Me and you agiasnt the world?

      Help me quincy! Figure it all out and tie it in a neat little bow like you always do!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO they created their own fantasy world and don’t believe they hurt anyone as they go about getting what they think they are entitled to – they ran the winery into the ground yet they say they are rebuilding it as if it was never their fault it went bankrupt! Neither have any feelings that extend past themselves – watching Missy’s blank stares, her circle words, her bs psychology when asked a question she doesn’t want to answer. He is in awe of her and does what ever it takes to make her happy. He spends money he doesn’t have and pretends they are entitled to the best of everything. When Andy asked at the reunion if Missy ever goes anywhere without Tarq – she started to cry….where is that great love? where is that we complete each other soul mate stuff? She cried and couldn’t speak??? They likely felt that being on the show would bring them fame (money) but what they are getting is a mirror held up that doesn’t reflect what they see!

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          “They likely felt that being on the show would bring them fame (money) but what they are getting is a mirror held up that doesn’t reflect what they see!”

          very well put

      • quincyil says:

        Damocles has one honest man in DC, Paul Warton. Paul is the key to the Salahi marriage mystery. He is the long term friend of Michaele. He is alone with her during stylings. In the interview of Paul during the Congressional hearings, he told us the truth. He said that it was her only opportunity to free herself of her oppressive husband. Paul told us that Michaele has risen in society and was trapped because she had no other options. He told us that she was so frail that he was afraid she might not survive. The other women really don’t understand. Paul does. He is Michaele’s true friend. If you want to know Michaele Salahi, listen to Paul Warton.

        • nathania says:

          I am not sure about Paul because if he was ‘higher’ than her on the social ladder back in the day it would just be one more arse she kissed on the way up. I like him but he seems similarly materialistic. I read WSL’s post about Mrs. Koch and I guess the true test would be, does she still take the calls of people who ‘knew her when’ that she has nothing to gain from?

          Apparently even gay men are a bit thick when it comes to Michaele Salahi types. I don’t for one moment think she’s a victim of Tareq, at best she’s a co-conspirator, at worst she’s his Starship Enterprise, boldly going where Tareq would never go before.

    • nathania says:

      Good point. I don’t think for a moment that was an accident and Lynda certainly didn’t.

  49. AZ Girl says:

    Thank you Lynn for the great blog. It summed up everything so well. I need to still watch Reunion No. 1 and I am looking forward to it. I caught a bit of the HWODC and I am amazed by the amount plastic surgery the all received. If you look at them all for a long time you start to not be able to tell some of them apart. Taylor obviously has had the most work. Maybe even had cheek implants from what I could tell. Camille need 4 nannies? Hopefully I can catch up this weekend.

    • quincyil says:

      The nannies work in shifts. I wonder how many housekeeper and gardeners she has for that mansion and 17 acre disney land.

      I wonder if Kelsey Grammer will be paying after the divorce.

      • AZ Girl says:

        I found it so sad to see Camille watching Kelsey drive away and saying goodby and turn around and all she has is this big house and is so alone. Make me appreciate all that I don’t have. 🙂

        • quincyil says:

          That was sad. He was going to Broadway for a year, but apparently was leaving his family for a younger woman who recently had a miscarriage.

          Kelsey made a lot of money, but he is no prize. Not wearing underware is icky. Being an ex addict is icky.

  50. jillz68 says:

    I have not read all the responses yet so I don’t know if this has been brought up. As the Lynn blog resident with MS (at least one of them) I need to comment on Michaele’s response about her weight and MS. She claims she is thin now because she is off steroids (presumably for her MS). Now there are only 4-5 drugs approved for MS treatment. They are all injections at this point. One is once a week (the one I am on), one is every other day, one is every day, one is once a month, and there may be one other but not sure if the FDA has approved it (oral meds are just around the corner, YAY!). Corticosteroids were used in the 90’s but not since then. Steroids are only used now when going through a flare and then it is only for 3 days (intravenous steroids). Not enough time to affect your weight. You do NOT take these as a maintenance drug for MS.

    Some people with MS choose to take no medication and that would have been an easier lie for her. Linda also brought up a good point that you shouldn’t eat a high protein diet with MS and Michaele claims to eat a filet every day.

    If she truly does have MS she should have used this as part of her storyline. If only to show what people who have it go through as far as exhaustion, meds and side effects, having a fundraiser, whatever. It isn’t a disease to be ashamed of and it can only help others when you are open about it. When I was diagnosed I told anyone that asked (I had been sick for awhile and people knew it but not why). I felt it was important to be very upfront about it. Some days are great, some are not and people are more understanding or forgiving when they know it is beyond your control when it is a bad day.

    Some of the famous people that have it and have been out make it look like a pretty scary disease because they had severe symptoms and disability (Richard Pryor, Annette Funicello) and it can scare the living daylights out of you when faced with the diagnosis. People that aren’t as severely affected can help others facing the future. It doesn’t automatically mean a sentence to a wheelchair.

    One other thing that would make Michaele seem more sincere is when she cries, there ought to be actual tears. Not just a squinched up face.

    LOVED that Linda came out as an ex pot smoker. See, here is another place Michaele could have chimed in. Pot is great for some of the sympoms of MS. Much better than Lyrica etc that is used for nerve pain. Or so I have heard 🙂

    • Savannah111 says:

      I havent read one post at all today I got home and now am in a place to kick back but I did of course read Lynn’s recap and once again I find it funny we think a lot on most subjects 🙂

      Well here I go first on the DC part 1 ladies.. I thought that stacy kept Cat in a line of fire and I thought it wasn’t necessary at all. I’m not sure why she did what she did maybe it was to try and excuse the behavior of her friend Erica I dont know why she had to continue to just keep the focus on Cat for so long.. I can tell you now that I always thought during the last episodes that Stacy was rather two faced. Thats the way I saw her and no doubt I bet that Cat was a little surprised by stacy’s behavior at that taping. After last night I dont like Stacy, in fact I’m hoping that the DC wifes don’t come back it was a boring show until the last 2 episodes. The reunion may turn out to be interesting but it’s a little to late in as far as regular weekly shows it will be to boring to watch.

      Now on to Michaele well if people were worried about her being able to hold up during those long hours, I dont think theres any reason to worry now in fact IMO she is just as guilty as he is and as crazy. I really really love Paul on this show and I think the guy could carry his own show, but I think he may have been a little wrong about his friend Michaele she held her own last night. Albeit still a fact in my mind she’s nuts period, first she married this man that just makes my skin crawl but she goes right along with his idea’s. And for all we know a lot of the craziness could have very well be her idea. One thing is for sure she’s never tried to get out of all the mess they got into together I think Lynda was right when she said they’ll go down together.

      The BH wifes I have to say that I wasnt that impressed with them, I know it’s just the first episode and I;m sure that it will be getting better but all in all I didnt think it was that great. I;m sure it’ll be better than DC I can’t see it being as boring as the DC wifes were.

      As much as I really dont care for Stacy I do have to say that I’m glad that she will have an opportunity to meet her real father. I wish her the best of luck with that and hope it turns out to be all she thought it would be. I liked her husband more than her on the show by far, he atleast had the nerve to call out

      • Savannah111 says:

        OOPS I wasnt finished yet, he at least had the nerve to call out Michaele and Tarek on their shame..

      • quincyil says:

        I knew someone with expertise would tell us what the truth was in the discussion between Lynda and Michaele over MS.
        Thank you. It’s surprising that Micheale would have a disease for 17 years and not know her diet restrictions or have information on the medications. She is notorious for not remembering people’s names when she was a makeup artist. Perhaps, she couldn’t remember her medication and diet restrictions.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Thank you for weighing in as someone who has had the experiences I have not. It helps sort out exactly what on God’s Green earth this woman is talking about. Still not sure I know, but feel on firmer ground!

    • klmh says:

      Thanks for giving me a better insight to some of the problems, drugs and differences in MS.

    • Cusi77 says:

      jillz68_ Thank you for sharing all this information with us! I wish you everyday to be a great day! Hold in there and take care! Much love!

      • jillz68 says:

        Anytime and thank you for the well wishes! I was sorta willing to believe her at first. Then she opened her yap about having a flare at the infamous gatecrashing event and that just proved she is a lying sack. That and the nearly 20 year old med information. Who knows, she
        could prove me wrong but not likely. What would satisfy me is to hear her symptoms, where her lesions are, what tests she had, how many Obands she had (you find this out from the tests on the spinal fluid), what classification of MS (relapsing-remitting, primary-progressive, secondary-progressive, progressive-relapsing), etc. Of course this will never happen.

        The biggest clue she is lying is the fact no one close to her knew about the MS. You certainly cannot hide it. Especially when stressed. After I was first diagnosed I had an issue with a car dealership and the salesman was a jerk and very condescending. I finally lost my cool and yelled at him and went to stomp off. Would have been more effective if my legs didn’t go out. Stress exacerbates your symptoms and considering all that she has been through with the White House alone, her body wouldn’t be able to take it.

    • American Idiot says:

      Thanks for sharing all this, Jill. Very insightful. I learned something here.

      Wishing you all the best.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Thank you Jillz68 about your comments on the MS. I watched my mother in law suffer MS for 30 plus years. For Micheale to make light of MS drives me crazy. But then again as many have commented on this blog she is just caught up in a tangle of lies in which her husband is the “partner in crime” which is just now really sad and pathetic.

    • Squirrels says:

      Fascinating information. Thank you for sharing your experience. I learned quite a bit.

  51. WindyCityWondering says:

    After reading yesterday and today’s posts I have to say it – for the most boring HW franchise DC brought out the most emotion I have seen on this board in a long time! I hope DC Reunion part two has more than just Salahi bashing. That said, on WWHL, Tarq said they were vindicated….so it will be interesting to see what some of the other husbands have to say about that fine mess!
    And to Bravo: this franchise needs to be buried and in the future just stick with the wives san husbands and no more lazy young adult children please.

  52. Adgirl says:

    Who watched BH? I didn’t catch the name or nature of the business Taylor claims to own.

  53. boston02127 says:

    Zarin on BH ‘Housewives’: Loved It!

    Last night’s debut of Bravo’s “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” has everyone talking and everyone has an opinion — including “The Real Housewives of New York’s” Jill Zarin, who spoke exclusively with TooFab on Friday.
    “I think it’s going to be a really good show,” Jill, who returned this from a whirlwind tour of Australia, said. “I thought these women would be phony, fake and a fraud, but instead they are real, authentic and genuine. And they’re glamorous!”
    She added, “My first impression was that I really liked it, and I didn’t have that impression with ‘The Real Housewives of D.C.’ What I really liked about Beverly Hills was that it was real. I loved the Richards sisters [Kim and Kyle]; I felt like they are real. I get that the older sister [Kim] was really famous when she was little, and sort of cocooned herself. And I love that they’re friends.”
    Jill, author of the New York Times bestseller, “Secrets Of A Jewish Mother”, adds, “As for Camille Grammer, I’m impressed that she let the viewer know right away that her marriage [with ex husband Kelsey Grammer] was in trouble. Look at her: You see her looking gorgeous, kissing her husband goodbye. She was so loyal, I loved how she told the audience that she was there for him.”
    Jill had mixed feelings about Taylor Armstrong. “I thought she has too many lip injections, it looks like she has double lips,” Jill jokingly said, laughing. “But I was also impressed that she’s willing to share with America her marriage problems [with venture capitalist Russell Armstrong].
    But who has the potential to be Jill’s new BFF? “My favorite character is Adrienne Maloof-Nassif. I could see being friends with her the most.”
    Jill, who’s shooting the upcoming fourth season of “The Real Housewives of New York,” says she’s psyched to see the show’s upcoming episodes. “I loved it. I’m looking forward to see the season unfold. And I wish them the best of luck.”


    A whirlwind tour? I guess that’s what she calls a family vacation.

    • Ellabean says:

      But who has the potential to be Jill’s new BFF?
      “My favorite character is Adrienne Maloof-Nassif. I could see being friends with her the most.”

      You just know that Jill is thinking: ” Hmmm… free stays and perks at the Palms, Las Vegas. Yeah, that’s the one I am going to be friends with”.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Hey there- how are you doing in your neighborhood?

      I saw some poor woman was hit by a tree blown on top of her on Kent St.

      Be careful! The wind is not supposed to die down until Sunday.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yes from now on I am going to call vacations “whirlwind tours”. In fact, I have to make a whirlwind tour around town tomorrow (sounds better than running errands). What a poser – I hate you Jill….alot!

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        I had a whirlwind tour through my kitchen. I am breathless from my journey.
        Next I will whirlwind tour myself to my whirlwind loo.

  54. Ellabean says:

    I have a DC husbands question:

    What does Mary A’s. husband, Rich, do for aliving ? Do they seem to live off of family in herited money or investments ? Or do I recall Cat said early on that “Mary runs a million businesses”? What businesses? Just curious. Okay and a little nosey.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Robert L. Schmidt is the Chairman/CEO of Great American Broadband, Inc. and President/CEO of Integration Communications International, Inc.

      Great American Broadband Inc:

      Mr. Schmidt maintains significant contacts with key leaders in the cable television and related telecommunications industry, most notable as Founder and President of the American Teleport Association (ATA); Charter board member of the World Teleport Association, Co-Founder and Board Member of Cable Satellite Public Affairs network (C-SPAN) and recipient of the President’s Award from the NCTA. He is the Co-Founder of NABU Network, Inc., the first two-way home information service delivered via cable television.

      • Adgirl says:

        Wow, usually people who marry very young and have babies (but not in that order) are too distracted to concentrate on their career. He’s on the board of CSPAN? I’m impressed. He seems really nice too.

  55. realminkey says:

    “I don’t make money, I spend money”. That’s what Mary’s opening statement says. She strikes me as a trust fund kid, if anything. Besides, how could someone have a hard time keeping her eyes open, and run “a million businesses”? Not likely! Surely her husband must do something.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Mary Schmidt Amons from “Real Housewives of DC” stars in the Bravo reality docu-series.

      As a second generation Washingtonian, Mary (“Real Housewives of DC”) spent summers at the Kennedy residences as a child, and is the granddaughter of legendary radio and TV personality Arthur Godfrey. Married to husband Rich for over 20 years, Mary Schmidt Amons is matriarch of the Amons clan of five children—Lolly, Ryan, Alexandra, Meghan and Matt—it’s never a dull day and she calls her life “controlled chaos.” When she’s not busy running her household, Mary (“Real Housewives of DC”) pairs her love of fashion with philanthropy as founder of “Labels for Love” and co-founder of “The District Sample Sale,” two D.C.-based charities.

      Mary Schmidt Amons founded Labels for Love, Inc. in 2006, to produce fashionable events to raise funds and awareness for the foundation’s chosen causes.

      A mother of five, Mary Schmidt Amons has developed a heartfelt passion for making a difference in the lives of women and children, in need. Mary (“Real Housewives of DC”) is motivated to influence her children to be charitable, continuing her family legacy of being philanthropic.

      As a former handbag and accessories designer, Mary Schmidt Amons has a deep knowledge of the fashion industry, as well as experience in event planning and public relations.

      The granddaughter of entertainer Arthur Godfrey, Mary Schmidt Amons has been inspired to continue his legacy of philanthropy for generations to come.

      Mary Schmidt Amons served as the Executive Director of the Vincent T. Lombardi Foundation, Inc., established to benefit the Vincent T. Lombardi Cancer Research Center at Georgetown University. The foundation was established by her father, Robert L. Schmidt, and has raised millions for cancer research, since its founding in 1971. Mary Schmidt Amons witnessed her father’s impact on the community with his influence and time, which has served also served as inspiration to make a charitable impact on the community.

      Along with her team of dedicated volunteers, and support from her family, Mary (“Real Housewives of DC”) is committed to using her creative talents to conceptualize and produce events that will collectively unite those within the fashion, design, corporate, political, celebrity, social and philanthropic communities, to raise funds and awareness for a variety of worthy causes that provide assistance and long-term solutions to those in need.

      Mary Schmidt Amons is also the founder of the District Sample Sale, which benefits Rachael’s Women’s Center.

      • Ellabean says:

        Thanks One More for both posts on Mary A. Still not sure what Rich does though. Work in da fwambly bidness ? (I never got a chance to write that out during the NJ series 😉 )

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO money was never an issue for Rich and Mary – didn’t she say she fell in love and got married and had Lolly at 19? As for all that energy and passion she supposedly has – she is sure hiding it with that laid back personality!

  56. boston02127 says:

    Waxdiva, I’m sorry if we misunderstood each other. Please know that I did not post and run off. At the end of my last post I wrote “enjoy your day”. Where I come from that means bye, see you later, ¡Adios Amigos!, etc.

    I was however a little insulted/peeved that you were a bit aggressive questioning why I was asking certain questions. You also posted to me to “get my facts straight”. Unless I watched a different version of DC housewives I think my facts are straight. Stacie saw the picture of her father before there was any contact.

    As I stated in the above posts, I was curious why Stacie didn’t know the history of wearing a dashiki and the importance when she saw the picture of her father. I assumed everyone learned that in grammar school like I did in fifth or sixth grade. Again, if it were my long lost father, I’d read everything there was to know about his origin before I met him. I would have found that extremely interesting.

    I apologize if you found this disrespectful. It was not my intention what so ever.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Nooooo problem. I think you attibuted to me as things said by others. I was in no way being hateful nor aggressive, so I also apologize if you found my words to be. Friends?

      • boston02127 says:

        @Waxdiva—It’s Sunday afternoon and I’m just now re-reading all the posts. I’m glad this is behind us. I enjoy your posts, your opinion & you make me laugh. Friends, of course.

  57. Wall St Lady says:

    MAMAZ on October 15, 2010 at 11:36 a
    Way up thread. I want to share my experience. I have lived & worked on Wall St for 30 years. I have 2 WS girl friends who r white because all WS women I have met r white & eat nails for breakfast & r not supportive to other women. My best friend is a Dr. She is very popular & has lots of women at the top of their careers. Through Dr. R I hang out w/a wonderful group of
    A++++ ladies. They say “Hey Baby”. “How u doin Sista ?” “I’m gonna kick yo Black a$$” ect. Yo me. At first I didn’t know how to respond w/my starched white
    Gloves on. Eventually I realized they were inviting me to learn a new language just like when I lived in Spain. In Spain the family I lived with refused to speak English to me. They wanted me to b a part of the family. I may b stupid but I believe it was the same w/ my sistaaa s.
    When they call me on the phone & address me in my nick name I respond using theirs.
    I know my “mimicking” is not an insult but a bond they have given me the privilege of having and I treasure & respect the bond.
    Mary was trying maybe to possess a familiarity she hadn’t earned & therefore it wasn’t respectful. I just wouldn’t want any of u to miss the joy I have in speaking my friends language.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I’m not sure what you do now on Wall St. but you have referenced your sales ability in other posts. And no matter where I end up, it always turns out be a sales job no matter what my title is.

      So we both know that Sales 101 is to find commonalities with your prospect.

      So yes, I see where you are coming from that Mary is trying to fit in with Stacie. But you and I both have seen overeager salespeople assume too much familiarity and lose the sale. Mary has a “tin ear” when it comes to race. From her integrated salon speech to her “down home” jargon, she just feels off.

      The further challenge I am having with your analogy is that it really applies just to your situation, and your set of friends.

      Many African American friends I have had shared with me that they don’t like it one bit, but often don’t speak up either out of resignation or fear of appearing too sensitive.

      • quincyil says:

        When Bethenny was mimicing, she was imitating Black people or just New Yorkers? It seems to me that , “Yo,” is used by my son in law’s Italian Brooklyn family. I remember they greeted each other with that term. I have Black members of my family and they speak just as I speak. They behave as I behave. I never see them use another form of our language.

  58. Wall St Lady says:

    One Month Bo. U said that very well & I agree. I was really just sharing my unique situation that brings me such joy.
    I certainly would not speak that “language to a stranger !

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      probably not a good idea to share that special language with stranger in New York! the headlines in the NY Post would not be pretty! LOL!

  59. Wall St Lady says:

    I am watching Kim K. & her sisters. She is 5′ tall. Kim is turning 30. Does any one know if her boobs are real. Kindra tells & so do many booblacious girls. I never herd Kim say a word.
    Just curious.

  60. Cusi77 says:

    WSL_ En que parte de Espana viviste y por cuanto tiempo?

  61. Earring Girl says:

    @Boston02127 – Thanks for responding I was shocked to see that Jill is claiming to be on NY Times best seller list. I have been busy with my volunteering and having a lot of home remodeling. Since I retired in January and found this blog shortly afterwards I became addicted to it, nothing was getting done and I had to do something that got me up from the compter and moving around :). Today is the first time in a while that I read the complete blog and boy was it interesting! I am glad to see the conversation has settled down since last night/earlier today, I have to say a lot a good points were made and even if there were misunderstandings it seemed to have worked itself out. I will continue to check in and out to see what is going on. I hope things are good with you and your mom. Hello to Lynn and all the other posters – I still hate Jill Zarin!

    • Dawn says:

      I agree with Bethenny that Bryn resembles Jason. Bethenny must truly be enjoying this season of her life.

  62. boston02127 says:

    Besides the fact that Patti Stinker needs to leave Rose alone, does Patti have a herpe on her lip in this pic?


    • Dawn says:

      Pretty is as pretty does……where does that leave Patti?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Her lips look lopsided to me – maybe it is botox leakage?

      • quincyil says:

        Speaking of botox leakage. Animal studies and studies of Human cadavers in the UK indicate that botox can travel to the brainstem. My daughter, a Harvard trained anesthesiologist and graduate of Brown Medical School, won’t let anyone in our family have Botox treatments. Her undergrad research was in neuroscience. She told me to smile and no one will see the wrinkles. She said that I can’t have a facelift too, so I am going to smile a lot in the next 40 years.

        • Dawn says:

          Your daughter sounds like one smart cookie.

          The people that I’ve seen up close that have had Botox genuinely resemble those who’ve been embalmed. It’s scary looking. The walking dead. Waxy.

          • quincyil says:

            The very rich BH lady with the airplane thinks she is attractive, but she looks like a manequin to me. I saw Donna Versace in a clip and she looked monsterous. Having a wrinkle is not that horrible. I still have my own teeth.

  63. klmh says:

    Great stuff on absurd to sublime Oct 15:


    An article about NeNe being on the Apprentice 2011 and the new lady (model) on RHOA new husband being a scam artist and Bravo setting up scenes for the 2nd show.

  64. Wall St Lady says:

    Cusi77 on October 15, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    I went to the University of Valencia. I spoke w/such a heavy Southern accent that everybody
    Rolled w/laughter at my pronunciation. My friends helped me pass but I was pretty bad.
    Net net my Spanish breaks wind.

    • Cusi77 says:

      WSL_ Count on me to practice it anytime you wish!

    • Cusi77 says:

      People from Valencia are famous for their sense of humor! I have been in Valencia in 1992 and a Lady show me how to make the “Paella Valenciana”… It would be sooooo nice to have a LynnFam reunion I would make one for everybody here!

  65. boston02127 says:

    Last night Camille said: “I’m the powerhouse behind Kelsey Grammer… I’ve kept him alive, I’ve saved his life, and I’m still here.”

    Wasn’t he on tv before he married her?

  66. Wall St Lady says:

    Thank u ! They laughed at me a lot ! I lived on egg& potatoes sandwiches waited all week for the Sunday lunch of Paelle.

  67. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    One of Patti Stanger’s assistants quit due to constant abuse. I’m not surprised.


    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Good find, I wondered what happened as about a week ago I check out her site and noticed she wasn’t listed anymore.

    • nathania says:

      wow…she isn’t just ‘one of’ she’s the main one and has been on there since the show started. This doesn’t speak well of Patti. I always liked Chelsea…I’m really surprised because she is nothing if not professional.

    • Dawn says:

      I’m not surprised that Chelsea would start her own business as it appeared that she and the other assistant did the majority of the work. I thought Chelsea made a big mistake when she went platinum blonde. Did anyone else like it? She is much more attractive as a brunette.

  68. Cusi77 says:

    This was posted in Michaele Salami’s blog comments:

    “I think you and Tareq should
    Submitted by city girl on October 15, 2010..I think you and Tareq should double date with the VanKempens from NY. I keep seeing similarities between the two of you. ”

    I left a reply… I do not know if it will appear…

    “You must be Jill Zarin!”

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      Hmm……city girl / j_ashly is one of Jill’s biggest fans. She harrassed Simon and Alex on Twitter before they finally blocked her. I wonder if it is the same person. If it isn’t the same person it is a strange coincidence.

      • Cusi77 says:

        Icanstand_ It was a very typical expression of JZ to say “The Vankempens” everytime she referred to them for three seasons!

        • icantstandthetoxicity says:

          You’re right, she does refer to them as The Vankempens. I don’t know if Jill posted that comment but I wouldn’t put it past her to do something like that. LOL

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      That’s cute—-but honestly I could see how someone outside of Jill might say that about them. I didn’t start to warm up to them til last season but before them I found them to be social climbers and living a lie more than living the life.

  69. CyotteeFlower says:

    TrueLife Diva and her gang have been planning attack will be here any minute.

  70. quincyil says:

    Dr. Paul Nassif is a very busy man. He specializes in Latino rhinoplasties. I guess he does noses of Spanish speaking people. In Beverly Hills, I bet he does Iranian rhinoplasties also. I am so grateful that my kids got my nose and his eyes.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I really never understood the whole plastic surgery game – some people look worse than before surgery! Danielle looks horrible but Taylor (BH) is just plain scary looking….

  71. CyotteeFlower says:

    I happen to get in on watching the plan go down.They got thier stories straigh and rallied reinforcements and are yukking up “taking me down” I have like to it all on my twitter.

  72. CyotteeFlower says:

    She will be her any minute.I’m sorry.I tried to intervene.
    Feel free to check out how this was planned.
    This not pot stirring I just want you to see how this all goes down.
    She has no right to harrass me.
    Please don’t engage and encourage her .

    • Cusi77 says:

      Cyotee_ I do not understand what cosist an attack, but please if you are sure, send an email to Lynn.

      • Cyotteeflower says:

        I’m very sure.Lynn and I were almost in touch I failed to send my screne name-ha
        I figured it was obvious by reading here.
        I’ve got the whole conversation of their planning linked on my twitter if anyone is interested.It is interesting to see how they work behind the scenes.
        The Wallflower that was here stalking me is telling them how she couldnt get to me last time because of how you all rallied around me.
        Please do it again!
        Telling some story about me going off about the death penality here today-lol-Does anyone see that post?
        This is crazy crazy stuff.They are counting on shear numbers to of people telling their story to make it true.
        My one defender in the end of the battle there Karma they are now saying is me also.
        Would never believe it if I didn’t see it.

      • Wallflower is instructing her how to hide her ip addy when she comes here tonight.

        • klmh says:

          Im sorry you are so upset. Maybe the best thing to do would be for all to dismiss her posts.
          Please don’t feel threatened by what might happen. I’m sure you don’t have a relationship with this person, other than the internet. Thats the great thing about this blog. You can just turn the puter off and be the better person for ignoring her or their accusations. It can go away as quickly as you want it to…
          Get a good nights sleep as Im about to do and enjoy Lynn’s next new post.

          • Cyotteeflower says:

            I know but she/they are determinded to make everyone here doubt me or worse.They know that if enough ppl say the same thing it will be believed.She had ppl believing her last night without questioning.And you all know me here some what.
            When someone puts bazzaar hateful stories out to all your online hangouts it is just like being kicked out of the club or not invited to the party.
            She came after me initiallylast night called me a stupid bitch and much more and I was still accused of stirring the pot.
            I’ll never understand how that works when it is in blk and white with a time stamp.
            Scariest part for me is what motive?

          • truelifediva says:

            Do you see me talking to her? Read up thread, she is referring to me and some mystery “gang” She is CrayCray. But you can make up your own mind….. I don’t have anything to hide or prove. I forgot how she feeds off this.

            • quincyil says:

              I see that there are issue and how you don’t engage. This seems to be a game, but it is disrespectful to Lynn and some of us here. Thank you for trying.

              • Cyotteeflower says:

                It’s a game alright.I knew you would understand Ouincy.This had always been the place where we were all adults.8~(
                On a much happier note we’re headed to Hannibal in a few to the fall art festival.Would have been a great time to meet you but had read earlier that you were going to be on mommy duty this week end.

            • Squirrels says:

              what’s ur twitter nic?

        • Cyotteeflower says:

          Well well well now that they have come here and seen that I know it is time to move to plan B.
          And plan B is to not post here tonight since I announced they would.Exact quote by TrueLifeDiva “Preparing ‘everyone’ for the gang up that ain’t happening.Yeah,this proves you’re not crazy cyottee/memphis/karma/kirksvillewoodmo 8~).Forever the shit stir-er….

          • klmh says:

            Please don’t worry about this Cyotteeflower. I and others wont judge you on someone else’s posts or your own for that matter. We all come from different places and have different beliefs. Thats what makes this such an interesting place, to learn about other folks and their ideas, thoughts and way of living.
            I thought the dialogue thursday night was fascinating. I read it yesterday afternoon and never knew there were so many views on a few simple words used to describe the African American race, and that people would be so offended even today. I think I read your post that mentioned colored as a respectful term in ’83 and in my area, I would agree. Who knew someone would take offense? I remember negro being a respectful term as well. But I must tell you it doesn’t bother me to be called cracker or honky either! Do people still do that? I dont know….
            Hope all is better for you today. This is a blip on your radar and its already disappeared.
            Best to you.

            • Cyotteeflower says:

              Thank you for your support.Did you happen to notice how many people called me a liar about colored people being acceptable in 1983? I do hope they will take time to remark on your confermation.I hope your post stays put considering how often the ones supporting me disappear.

              • klmh says:

                Lynn doesn’t erase posts unless they criticize another poster, and even at that, it takes several times for her to act. She is very fair minded and open to anything other than bashing other people on this site. I think it has only happened one time, but I could be wrong. OkayPanky who became Dracula at night was ban. She was funny and entertaining during the day, but hold on to your shorts when the moon came out. Seemed like that to me anyway.

              • Sha2000 says:

                I don’t think anyone called you a liar…I will though say again that ***I*** had never heard that word used in ***MY*** 47 years on this planet.

  73. Wall St Lady says:

    I lived w/ a family there were 4 students. We never figured out where all the family slept cuz we had the 2 main bedrooms. Anyway I was not crazy about the food. The mother was very sweet & would say in English “Do u like it Do u like it” ? When she went into the kitchen I would throw the food out the window so I wouldn’t hurt her feelings.
    For lunch she made an omelet w/potatoes & put it in a homemade bagette. Otherwise I pretty much was hungry all the time.

  74. Wall St Lady says:

    All Sharpton is on HBO w/ Bill Myer. He is very thin & says he is still recovering from the Bush days.
    8 years ago I was at a fab Chinese restaurante Tse Yang w/my brother ,who was up from NC.
    We saw All Sharpton at another table. My brother was full of jelly beans & beer & went over to talk to All & get his autograph. All was very nice even though his dinner was interrupted.

  75. Savannah111 says:

    I need help you guys, where can I find the full episodes of the NY ladies 3 season ?
    The only thing I can find is clips.. I want to see the whole episodes again my mother has never seen the 3rd season..


  76. TrillianAlice says:

    Hope this link works for another gate crashing try. I believe another posted may have posted this at the time, so I give them credit.

  77. Wall St Lady says:

    I saw on TV that Target would exclusively have season 1-3 of : didn’t catch the rest ,but know it was a housewife something.

  78. Adgirl says:

    Bullying is awful. I was made fun of online and I was terribly upset for days. Keep you spirits up. If you need to – stay offline for a few days (remember what you use to do pre-internet?).
    Why is this gang be “after” you and is there a twitter address we can check out their plan on?
    Take care.

    • Kat says:

      TrueLifeDiva has posted here for some time and I’ve respect for her and thus far I see only CyotteFlower bringing this up. I believe TLD has an opinion formed from previous experience with this person. I will go look now that Cyotteflower continually is asking for someone to read her comments.

    • Cyotteeflower says:

      twitter is cyottee.Or go to reality tea the article on Margret Cho.I went there about a month ago for first time and jumped in defending Danielle and was belittled made fun of called “it” told to go away but I was determined to be heard.
      They also accused me of being about 7 differtent posters at one time.When the board admin verified my account they said I am a computter wiz with special equiptment.
      Then the news of Simon Barney getting arrest came out and if you read on yesterdays blog you will see what happened.Not pretty.I was only there 10 days I think.They hunted me to twitter and here.
      They speak of how their plan didnt work last tome here cause we were too tight.
      I think they hunt certain people like sport cause I am not the only one.

      • pffffft says:

        I am a regular poster on the other site, and I haven’t commented here much, but I’ll have to say Cyottee, you are making way to big a deal of this. You came on that other site and were kind of rude, and the few people that did stick up for you got bashed by you. You seem a little paranoid, perhaps you could talk to someone about it, or take a break from the computer for a while? No one over there is hunting you….ok?

    • truelifediva says:

      The bullying is in her head just like Kelly K. Bensimon on scary island. She knows what she did to encure my comments, now she’s playing victim because that’s how she gets her jollies. There is no “gang”. Just go to RealityTea and look at the Margaret Cho DWTS thread. Decide for yourself if she is being “bullied”. She told everyone here to go there earlier and now she’s posting edited versions on Twitter. Read the real deal for yourself.

      • Cyotteeflower says:

        Hey how you doin?We missed seeing you earlier.Hope your meeting went well and you were able to get those plans solidified.Honestly you have no idea how proud I am of you.No one could have pulled this off better that your well organized crew.Your many years in operation doent go unnoticed.
        If in the end we can all live in a world free of irritating exhusting disgusting ignorant crazy sick nasty stinky fat ugly old useless delousional paranoid white people this will have all been worth it! So you keep your head up and don’t give another thought to the process.

      • Cyotteeflower says:

        You know I had to edit them so they would lead to the super duper secret duplicate blogs that show just what I want people to see.I can never let anyone see the brilliant detailed instructions.
        I see them.Always have.I appreciate that about you.

      • Squirrels says:

        TLD I should be back in SoCal next week. Let’s do lunch.

  79. Kelly_Has_Big_Shoulders says:

    @ Cusi 77 when ever you make the Paella Valenciana please do post when and where.
    I have never had such a delicious Paella as the one I had in Valencia. La comida mas deliciosa.

  80. lillybee says:

    I am almost as old as Stacie’s mom. I remember dating in the early 70’s and how terrified I would be if my period was late.
    The reason is if a girl got pregnant it was either a shot-gun wedding or a trip to the unmarried girls home and the baby given up for adoption.
    I think that Stacie’s mom gave her up for adoption not because the baby was black but because she wasn’t married.
    It could also be possible that the mom’s parents didn’t know anything about the pregnancy and that is why she didn’t want her family to know about Stacie.

    • krone says:

      Lily, I remember those “bad old days” as well. Your choices were unwed mother home as you said, carry the baby and give it up (which my parents would never agree to,–The scandal!!!!) or illegal, bloody abortion. From the beginning I had some empathy for Tracie’s mom; adoptions in those days were secret and she probably never had any intention of reuniting with the daughter she gave up, and that isn’t cold, it’s survival. If you allowed yourself to fall in love with this baby, you were courting pschological & emotional upheaval; best to not even think of the baby as yours but want to stay healthy and give the adoptive parents the healthiest baby you could do. I also understand Stacie’s dilemna. The strongest argument in my mind is wanting to know genetic traits and factors that might affect mine and my children’s health. It’s a mess and very easy to judge; not so easy if you’ve been there

  81. jean says:

    wow Kelsey Grammer had a heart attack in 2008 and had to be paddled 2 times. I also had heart attack in 2008 and had to be paddled 5 times, recovered and had bypass surgery. makes you wonder, when do those emt’s stop paddling. i often think about that young man and am grateful to him for not stopping at 3 or 4. maybe he remembered my daughter in law was following the ambulance in my car, or that when they took me out of the house, my son and grandson had to stay behind to take care of my 4th stage cancer husband that was only 2 weeks away from dying himself. takes a special person to do their job. God bless them.

  82. Squirrels says:

    Well sell me south ( no it’s not derogatory, but a great line from Gone With the Wind. One that deserves to be intellectualized ), I cannot keep up with the high flying squirrels on this site. Within 6 minutes, 182 responses glean. I’ll toss in my 2 cents, minus clothing allowance. Here is what I see, now that I’m at a distance.

    The site has grown like a mushroom field/cloud (you choose the type of mushroom, ala let me think this through-land or don’t touch that! It might kill you. Makes no difference to me.)

    Those with an agenda IAT (I’m All That) who wish to pull this community apart won’t stop so long as they get one glimpse of disagreement. They’ll prey on it via new nics, new attitudes, new BS. Yawn City.

    Those who have been in agreement or agree to disagree will be put to the test, leaving the IAT folk with a serious hard on. “Oh…ooooh….. oh baby…”


    I’ve been hit hard on more than one occasion. I’ve taken comments much too personally, yet do not apologize beyond those individual incidents. I admit, it took a few occasions to wake me up to reality. My reality is off topic but I shall say this which also displays my chump face.

    I’m the one who will push every button you believe does not exist within your reality. I am the one who will befriend you, then pull the rug out from under you. I am the one who has no conscience. I will laugh all the way to my personal bank. This is where reality begins. The bank I speak of is a bank void of honesty, personal responsibility, caring. In essence, I’m a total dick.

    This is what I have come face to face with via social media. Yet as you read it, you thought I was referring to myself.

    Communication is based solely on the recipient. It’s not what you say, it’s all about what the recipient believes they heard. Think about it.

  83. TT in OC says:

    I can see that a lot have happened since I signed off last night. It’s a busy day so I did not have time to read through everything. However, I am glad that most of us have calm down in regards to the racial issue.

    To a certain extent, I am still considered myself as an outsider (since the INS defines me as an alien) trying to understand and adapt to the American culture. I did not studied American history and have only lived here for 12 years, there are still a lot I don’t know but very curious about.

    For those who may be interested, I looked up “oriental ” in the urban dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental) earlier and realized what’s missing in my part. I was brought up and educated in Hong Kong where was greatly influnced by the UK and then went to Canada to have my college education. If you look at the definitions provided by urban dictionary, you may understand why I am so confused. I guess “when I am in Rome, I have to do what the Romans do”. I will stick with the term Asian but will still not be offended if anyone call me the “O’ word.

    I don’t want to take side since I don’t know what exactly is going on, but I have to say I feel sorry for Cyotteeflower who feels bullied. This is a peaceful blog where we feel safe to express ourselves. I sincerely hope everyone will show respect to Lynn and each other.

    • truelifediva says:

      There is no bullying. She is Kelly K. Bensimon on scary island chomping gummy bears. She made nasty comments, I called her on it, and now she’s crying “bully”. No need to feel sorry for her. She’s the one asking people to take sides, I am not. Find out the facts and decide for yourself. Or not, the choice is yours. But NO ONE is being bullied. Thank you 😉

      • Kat says:

        I’ve been reading. I’m not finished. But so far I agree.
        I started with a link posted on the thread you mentioned at RT.

      • Cyotteeflower says:

        Because calling someone a stupid bitch and accusing them of such things as faking suicide and having 7 different ids that even after being verifyed as having one ID is then a computer genious that knows how to fool site administrator but then I am so ignorant that I will never be able to figure out who you are and what you are doing while puting racial slurs in my mouth and brag to each other that you’ll back the story of I’m this that and the other thing and oh how much fun this will be to annihilate me and unleash your thunder tonight when you accomplish your goal of waiting for me to mess up
        and oh wow she is sick and needs mental help but she just wants sympathy but we’ll make sure everyone knows her nasty game and no one but a couple of new people will have sympathy because I am so loved on Lynns blog that the regular posters will believe me but just in case wallflower you come in and help me out with the backup arguements after she meses up by responding to my post and jean you have my back just in case right
        Is that the kind of non bulling of which you speak? For beginners ofcourse because I know you lovely ladies can keep this mess going for 30 plus days now.
        BTW Dive who attacted who last night?Thats right you called me a stupid bitch because I thought colored was an ok word.

        • truelifediva says:

          And you still are one. That was a lively display you just put on tonight. None of it is based in reality. You like to add words and thoughts to fit your agenda. I never put words in your mouth, it’s saved on the internet for all to see, never to be edited or changed (by you). You are a raving lunatic. Take your meds and go to bed. You are embarrassing yourself. EVERYONE is laughing at you, CrayCray. Face it, you got called out on your BS. and now you are “white noise” to me. You what that is, right? Zzzzzzzzz…..
          Cartwheels are free 😉

          • klmh says:

            Wow, did you get your jollies writing this? Does it give you a warm fuzzy feeling to put someone down like this?
            Thank God your hatred isn’t contagious…

          • Cyotteeflower is KirksvilleMo not a secret here says:

            Thank you so much I didn’t know you cared.I do love to make people laugh!

      • TT in OC says:

        Turelifediva, as I said, I don’t want to take side since I don’t have the facts. I did not say she was bullied by you and anyone. I said I am sorry that she feels that way. I recognize that both of you have contributed a lot to our discussion on this blog and I just wish there can be peace among us.

  84. truelifediva says:

    @Squirrels, I replied to your post up thread regarding your PSA. Don’t want to publish my e-mail right now while CrayCray is on the warpath but I will figure out a way to get in touch with you. 😀

  85. krone says:

    So glad you’re back Sqirrels. You don’t know me but I’ve been reading a bit of your writing about remarkable Tad. I hope you publish so those who are unaware as I,
    learn . I laughed, I cried……………. but most of all I admire your strength and ability to communicate, and teach.

    • Squirrels says:

      Ahhhh, Thanks Krone. I took the book down. I was getting some offensive words of wisdom (cough, sputter) and the last thing I wanted was to hand some loony toon ammo. Such is life. I left the comments, simply because there are fabulous women/men who’s words of encouragement as well as personal stories deserve to be preserved. I hope to finish the book before the years end.

  86. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Instead of emailing you, why don’t you just call me directly? 1-858-eat-shit 😉
    I’m not 41 yet, but you are close. And you are 20yrs older no matter what. If I’m middle aged, you’re a senior citizen. So what?
    You don’t know me but claim my pic is fake. How would you know? That’s not the first pic I’ve posted showing my face dear. You don’t know me. Are you trying to hurt my feelings by saying I’m not the girl in the picture? Do you really think you can tear me down THAT easily? Crazy people can’t hurt my feelings. But why don’t you post an avatar of yourself? The only thing fake about me are the eyelashes I wear on a date and the color of my hair ;-).

    White noise…

    • quincyil says:

      I hope you have a better time, D….

      See everyone at the end of the week. Thintervention will be delayed. I have to paint and clean my son’s condo so he can sell it.

  87. jeepers says:

    who are you ranting at now, might I ask?

  88. jeepers says:

    Well I have not one clue as to what happened to my posts, but as it is no longer there, I will take it that was a sign from Lynn to move on to some place else, so I will. And with that you can color me gone………………………….JEEPERS has signed off……………..

  89. Cyotteeflower says:

    Jeepers, yes your post calling out my bully for all her hateful ways is gone along with my post thanking you for seeing what I am going through and what it has done to me.
    The fact that you know and confirmed what I know was of great comfort.
    Don’t let this run you off as I have been told my voice is of value here and I am sure yours is too.
    Did you happen to notice the shockingly hateful post from what is probably our most beloved member to a new member is also missing?
    I bet I read it 5 times unable to believe the words and sentiment was actually coming from this saint. Someone got their lily reputation saved and someones was allowed to be destroyed.
    Funny how that works don’t you agree? The times they are a changing.

    • pffffft says:

      Wait, so you go to another blog site, pick a fight, then come over hear and cry about how everyone picked on you?

      I think you need to find a better use for your time.

  90. Jerseydaisy says:

    Hi Lyn, Have been reading your blogs for a long time and love,love,love them. I’ve never posted a comment before so I hope that I can actually convey what I am really thinking. It is a given that Tarq and Michaele are certifiable. I think he is the puppetteer and she does what he tells her. However, I really think that Michaele is mentally unbalanced and Tarq is manipulating her. With that said I think the other housewives also think that Michaele is unhinged, so why not cut her a break. The poor girl needs help,possibly an intervention. Now the other girls, by their own words, are fabulous, wonderful, fulfilled etc. So why do they get to act the part of the fool? Cat is allowed to be incredibly rude, talking over and talking down to people and paroding a politician at what was supposed to be a serious event (would she be amused if someone was the Queen Mum for Halloween) Lynda was not”to the manor born” but can’t help but look down her nose at people who want to be in the same circle as she. Mary needs to stand firm with her decisions (tell the girl to stay out of the closet – jeez who is the mother and who is the child) and stop telling everyone she knew Michale when she was just a “makeup artist” don’t be such a snob, she inherited and married her money as she says she doesn’t make it she spends it. Stacie needs to pick up a book on etiquette, you don’t invite people over to your home to be ambushed and if one of your guests is being attacked, either ask that person to stop or leave. Thanks for your thoughtful blogs Lyn, I always look forward to reading them.

  91. SillyMe says:

    Great blog again Lynn! Michaele Salami is such a shameless liar! I just watched the WWHL clip she did with Andy Cohen after the finale (http://www.youtube.com/user/ozus2#p/u/13/9eV-jpNJP2o) and she reiterated the fact that she WAS a redskin cheerleader and told that bogus story about the alumni stating she cheered in ’91 instead of the ’80’s to keep her real age a secret and then during the reunion she stated she never said she was a cheerleader…this woman…eh couple makes me sick and I wish they wouldn’t get more airtime! Ohh and who would be crazy enough to spend money on her Barbie?! Also saw a clip of next week’s part 2 of the reunion where MS told Cat that no one got fired over their White House incident…clearly delusional!

  92. madame tortefois says:

    Stacie and her family/friends seemed to have their dukes up against Cat before she even arrived at the family dinner. Cat may have been uncomfortable because she was not entirely welcome at the house. It was bad manners for Stacie to invite her when she already made a judgement about Cat! What about Erica’s manners with that idiotic diatribe at the “ice cream social?”

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