I Hate Jill Zarin Top Chef Just Desserts / Housewives News

I Hate Jill Zarin   Top Chef Just Desserts  – 7 remain  October 21, 2010

Chocolate, Chocolate, Chocolate – I’ve never heard that word spoken during one program than on Top Chef Just Desserts, I love chocolate.  As much as I always wanted to taste the food on Top Chef, the urge is much more intense on Top Chef Just Desserts, I’d like to smack that dessert plate out of Gail’s hands and grab it to just devour it!  You just know those judges don’t even finish them, they probably just take one bite and the rest gets thrown away, it’s a disgrace!!!  Horrible waste of chocolate. 

I wasn’t a fan of the Quick Fire Challenge, I’ve never been big on a “savory” dessert, if I want something salty or meaty, I’ll order that.  I actually did that once, the escargot I had once as my appetizer were so delicious, I ordered three more instead of dessert after the meal.  But I digress…

Adding the shameless commercial, Gail tells us that the chef’s will only be allowed to use one pan luckily they have dishwashing liquid to wash that one pan as needed.

With just seven left, the chef’s are starting to get on each other’s nerves but we do have a strange alliance in Zach, Heather and Yigit.  The one who everyone seems to hate is Morgan and I can see why, that guy thinks he’s a gift and is better than the rest.  As the chef’s go over to collect their savory ingredients for their desserts, Morgan hauls off and belts Heather in the mouth…ok I exaggerate, he did elbow her in the mouth causing it to swell.  No apology was forthcoming instead Morgan tells us that she shouldn’t have tried to go up against him. 

Erica was annoyed with Yigit, he took all of the bacon from the ingredient table and just stashed it under his workstation.  I don’t even think he used any of it but he insured that no one else would be able to utilize bacon in their dish.  Not very professional.  If you have to sabotage the rest of the group, you have some pretty substantial insecurities. 

With the exception of Eric, the men on this show are pretty horrible human beings.  I thought Yigit was ok until he hid the bacon…and not in a good way! 

Heather isn’t exactly Miss Congeniality as she is constantly putting down the other chef’s and explaining to us why she is so much better than the rest.  We’ll see…

The bottom three in the Quick Fire Challenge are Danielle, Eric and oops…Heather!

The top three, the arrogant Morgan, sneaky Yigit and winner Zach.  Yes Zach won the quick fire and that feisty Gail offers Zach $1,000 to give up his immunity but he’s no dummy, he knows another offer is right behind and holds out for $5,000 before accepting the cash to give up immunity.  As Gail told him, that is a great decision as the last thing these chef’s should want is to win because of immunity, their dish should be the deciding factor.  Personally, I could see $10k in Gail’s eye, Zach should have held out for more. 

Now for the serious challenge, The Los Angeles Times 128th anniversary…it’s a biggie folks, just like Ramona’s 17th wedding anniversary, the 128th anniversary is monumental!   A pretty cool challenge is extended, the chef’s are to make a dessert that must appear black and white to match a newspaper..I get it!  They are to make 200 servings and are given $500. for ingredients.  Zach seems to think that he has the biggest challenge because he likes color, because you know, most pastry chef’s don’t like color.  huh?

Not quite as big a deal is made of missing rice crispy treats as pea puree, make note of that, peas more important than cereal.  Heather’s crunchy cereal treats have gone missing and no video tapes are reviewed but she does have a suspect, merely because he bopped her in the mouth earlier, Heather thinks Morgan may be behind this mystery.  That big bully is certainly not above violence so could sabotage be far behind?

Heather trudges on without her cereal but throws caution to the wind and includes some red highlights into her black and white dessert ignoring the rules and landing her in the bottom three.  Joining Heather in the bottom were the other two ladies left in the competition, Erica and Danielle.  Clearly Danielle forgot to take her meds and is f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g out in the stew room as every inches away from her just a bit.  “I don’t know how to cook for a palette other than my own,” she tells her peers.  Step away from the crazy lady! 

Gail psyched them out just a bit by calling the three losers in front of the judges first when typically the top three go in first.  The ladies are critiqued and criticized for their offerings.  Heather’s major issue was the red on her plate.  Danielle made a 1-2-8 out of her desserts and apparently forgot the flavor.  The judges seemed to zone in on Erica’s ice cream, described as lemon poppy seed, we learn that she apparently forgot to add the lemon and one judge actually said it tasted like soap.  Yummy!  This judge must have said a lot of swear words as a child to have a palate for soap. 

The guys are called in next, all four remaining men are relieved to hear they’re the top four and Yigit is told he won the challenge.  Sent back to the stew room with nothing for his win, he sends the ladies back in to learn their fate.

I have to say that based on what we saw and what we heard from the judges, I expected Danielle to be sent packing.  She is consistently at the bottom and is definitely a wild card.  Unfortunately the judges decided that Erica would go home, clearly disappointed, I think she is a better pastry chef than some of the remaining contestants, namely Danielle!   

The black and white venue was very cool, it was interesting to see the quick glimpse of the major headlines that were posted on the walls and all of the black and white tables around the room was a good look! 

I really do prefer Gail Simmons over Padma as the host, I think we’re almost supposed to compare the two and while Johnny Iuzzini doesn’t  offend me, there is no replacement for Chef Tom Colicchio, he’s the man! 

Housewives News:

Bethenny Frankel of Bethenny Getting Married and Real Housewives of New York is really having a hell of a month.  Bethenny’s mother made a statement last week to tabloids contradicting Bethenny’s claim of a sad childhood.  Today RadarOnLine posted over 30-photos of Bethenny in her youth provided (sold) to them by the loving, caring and nurturing mother.  I reviewed the photos, I have to say that rather than proving what Bernadette (B’s mother) was trying to prove, to me it shows a very sad young girl as even in the very few photos where Bethenny is smiling, there is a deep dark sadness in her eyes.  The majority of the photos show Bethenny not smiling.  The only smile that looks genuine is one showing Bethenny skiing with girlfriends as a teenager, most likely far away from her mother.  I’m just sayin…

In my mind, what Bethenny’s mother did not only proved Bethenny’s point, that her childhood was pretty damn sad, but it shows what a horrible woman Bernadette is to sell childhood photos of her own daughter to an internet gossip site.  Do you think she needs the money that badly?  I hope it was worth it. 

The photos can be seen here:


Click around RadarOnLine for snippet stories about Kelly Bensimon, Kim Zolciak and breaking news, Tamra Barney quits botox!  WOW! 

True to my word I did not watch Millionaire Matchmaker and I don’t intend to, however, I switched onto Bravo just moments before the end of the hour and caught the last few moments of the show.  I did catch the verbiage on the screen that sums up the two millionaires for the episode and noted that neither of them were matched with a mate by Stanger.  So I decided that while I’m still refusing to watch, I think we should definitely keep score.  Each week I’ll somehow find a way (hopefully you will all help me) to find out if Stanger’s two clients for the week had a love match.  So far we’re at 0 for 2 and we’ll see just what this woman’s rate of success really is this season.  We could even take some bets on what the end result will be, I’d say less than 20% will be matched up by Patti Stanger.  Even I could do better than this woman! 

The Real Housewives of New York are in the first few weeks of filming for Season Four, Alex had this to say when asked how it is going:

@McCordAlex:  Lots of hilarious shenanigans going on that I couldn’t possibly comment on…think it’ll be fun to discuss later on 🙂

Jill Zarin hasn’t backed down on her ridiculous promise to track down what she considers “cyber-bullies” but Jill defines cyber bullies as those who don’t like her.  That’s a whole lot of people she’s going to have to block on Twitter, so if you’re on Twitter and blocked by Jill Zarin I offer you my congratulations and welcome to the club!  

Jill checked in with her genius teeny bopper disciple today:

@JillZarin: TO: @XXXXXX   How did you do today? Please let us all know who to block. Lots of creepers came out of cyberspace NOW BLOCKED

@JillZarin:  What a beautiful day right? I had my purple on! So all you haters who exposed themselves today on my TWITTER are now blocked. Nite nite

This woman thinks she’s a whole lot more important than she is, but the truth is if she continues to block all of her followers that simply don’t like her, she will be left with very few followers on Twitter. 

Her fans were crushed that she blocked them, here’s what a few of them had to say to Jill:

TO:  @Jillzarin make sure you get my name its Devon! Just wanted to make your list correct when you start calling bosses and get cussed out.haha  

 TO:  @Jillzarin ooooh I’m hurt. You know now that I think about it I’m not sure why I follow you! Dm me so I can give you my bosses #!Dumb bitch  

TO:  @Jillzarin the first to be blocked is Susan Saunders, beyond that? it’s a crap shoot.

TO:  @Jillzarin Jill – no offense, but you’re making a real fool of yourself with this. Plz let it go.

TO:  @Jillzarin r u f’ing serious? report bullies? do you start with BatShitCrazy?  

TO:  @Jillzarin you take yourself too seriously. I think you think your more important than you really are.

This woman needs a publicist to monitor everything she says and does, she shouldn’t be allowed to tweet or do an interview or even answer her own phone without someone guiding her every word.  She will never learn how to deal with the public. 

Dina Manzo created an “It Gets Better” YouTube offering with her thoughts on Spirit Day yesterday.  Maybe I’ve missed the boat here but isn’t it supposed to be about young people who are dealing with the realization that they’re gay and letting them know that while it may be difficult now, it does get better?  I watched Andy Cohen’s “It Gets Better” video and that seemed to be what he was saying.  Andy had a way of making you really understand what some of these kids go through by sharing his own personal experience with us. 

Dina Manzo turned this into her own personal message to some people who were questioning her financials for her charity Project Ladybug.  Dina goes off on a tangent about bloggers and Twitter and it is clear to me that she’s not talking about young gay people anymore.  She’s talking to people like me and @Geoaubsmom because we questioned her and she’s talking directly to twitterer’s who have called her out on her own mean behavior on Twitter.  This is the most selfish woman on the planet, even her “It Gets Better” video that is meant to touch the lives of young gay people gets turned it into a video about what she’s dealing with on Twitter.  She did forget to mention all the nasty, name calling tweets that she sends out then later deletes.  Who’s the cyber bully?  Dina Manzo!  What a hypocrite!

@dinamanzo It gets better!! xo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGS1YPQZ8Vc

Is this staying on topic?  Clearly Dina decided that rather than focusing on the real problem and sending an encouraging message to young people, she turns it into a message to those of us who dare to question her behavior. 

What the hell is wrong with Jill Zarin and Dina Manzo?  They’re not victims, they have an opportunity to really do the right thing and get behind a real cause.  Instead they both turn it and focus it on themselves and trying to imply that they have been bullied?  Are they serious?  This is really sick!

Kids out there are realizing that they’re different, they are trying to figure out how to deal with it, whether or not they can confide in family members or friends, then they go out into the world and get horribly bullied, it really is the saddest situation.  Jill Zarin and Dina Manzo are actually comparing what these kids are going through to a few tweets that they get about their behavior.  It really will blow your mind! 

Yes folks, I hate Jill Zarin and I always will!  (you too Dina Manzo!)

Big night on Bravo, starting with Real Housewives of DC Reunion part 2, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and then Watch What Happens Live with Hoda Kotb and the horrible, nasty, obnoxious excuse for a woman, Patti Stanger.  What a shame to put such a nice woman, (Hoda) on with such trash!  Oh well, Watch What Happens…

Until Next Time

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331 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Top Chef Just Desserts / Housewives News

  1. LynnNChicago says:

    Duplicate Blog posted here:


    Please click around the ads 🙂 thanks so much!

    • twoile says:

      Done & happy 2 do so, thanks 4 all ur time & expertise a la blog.

    • dancekrazy says:

      Oh, Lynn
      Your blog, as usual was great. I had the same “take” on the chefs.
      Anyway, all day today on BRAVO were the reunion shows, beginning with OC, then NY, then NJ, then DC (again) and now repeats of RHOA!!!
      I am looking forward to seeing the second half of the DC reunion tonight, but am dreading that dumb ass SaLIEhe talking about anything, and they’re bringing the guys out tonight.
      Watching the repeat of the 3 hours of the RHONY reunion, I recalled all of the reasons why Zarin turns my stomach, and why I love Bethenny and Alex.
      Reading your blogs and all of the entries, keep me up to date on things that are going on other than what I see on TV.
      Lynn, beware of the “flying monkeys”. SURRENDER ZARIN!!!

  2. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    I really hope Hoda says something to Patti on what she has said about Bethenny, but she has class unlike Patti.

    Top Chef Desserts was good. Though Morgan is a bit strong handed Heather makes me want to do a talk to the hand. She is so negative yet thinks her stuff is amazing. Her facial features make her look ugly and petty.

    Looking forward to the reunion tonight for RHODC. Curious about that yet Timothy Olyphant will be on The Office. Decisions, decisions.

    • Zoey says:

      I guess I don’t see what all the hate is on Morgan. He may be a tad full of himself, but he’s not mean, he’s not near as arrogant as some we’ve seen. He’s just confident I think, if a bit nerdy.
      Now Heather, ugh! She would complain if she WON the competition! What a whiner, geez. Constant complaining and gossiping about others. Zach’s a bit beotchy too. The Diva club are beotches in conclusion!

      Bethenny’s mom must be a little off. How mortifying for your own mother to sell photos of you to the press. Strange bird.

      100,000th picture of Kelly into a bikini on Radar. This time a boob is trying to get away and out from under the fabric! Wonder who’s taking care of her kids while she’s frolicking in Florida?

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Morgan doesn’t bother me either, he has every right to be confident because he is a highly skilled and capable pastry chef.

        Heather annoys me more and more every week, she would have a lot more people rooting for her if she would just shut her mouth and bake/cook.

        While I am sure an elbow in the mouth does hurt and despite Morgan being unapologetic over it, it was clearly an accident. Maybe it was the way it edited but it seemed like Heather was playing it up and acting like it was some sort of strategy on the part of Morgan to ‘take her out of the competition’.

        She then implies Morgan is a thief and took her rice crispy treats..really? As if the simple snack that every mom in America can make with their eyes closed was the coup de grâce that was going to send your dish over the edge into the winners circle. Yes, Morgan did it, your bacon stealing buddy is clearly above that sort of thing, especially since they were last seen on his tray.

        Johnny (sigh….my secrete crush) talked about it on this blog and he thinks it’s ridiculous but also covered himself by saying he has been wrong before.

        My MIL was watching the show with me- and she was yelling at the tv also thinking that Danielle was either on drugs or not taking her medication. I can’t beleive she wasn’t sent packing and was sorry to see Erica go home but in the end I don’t think she would have been in the final three. My guess is Morgan, Yigit and Zach.

        Jill Zarin…is clearly out of her mind. It actually makes me a little sick to my stomach (literally) that she would exploit the death of young people for the benefit of her own self-serving agenda- the same goes for Dina Manzo.

        Sure these woman have been zinged on twitter- but they have also dished out just as much snark and bitchiness- now they want to act like wounded doves?

        As a whole, I have some trepidations over the whole media frenzy with the recent suicides. Statically, on average one young person kills themselves ever 2 hours so with certainly some of these kids would have to be gay. While tragic and preventable, I don’t think it’s anything ‘new’.

        While I think having more knowledge and resources available to assist ANYONE suffering with depression and thoughts of suicide, I hope the the current efforts don’t do more harm than good. I remember hearing how a every time a local paper reported suicides/or attempted suicides as the result of people jumping in front of subway trains, there would be a rash of similar acts. When they stopped reporting it, the rates went down.

        Bethany’s mom attempt to clear her name is nothing more than a sad little cash grab that backfired. Sadly, it confirms Bethany’s resolve to completely cut her out of her life as the only choice.

      • dancekrazy says:

        Yeah, for some reason, Morgan doesn’t bug me the way Heather does. I have never seen that girl seem truly happy for any winner. She always looks miserable during the “judges table” no matter if she’s in the top three or the middle, or the bottom, or just unnoticed. What the hell is with her? Morgan may be a little arrogant, but he sure seems to know how to make desserts!

        • dancekrazy says:

          About Bethenny’s mom. In my experience, Bethenny does not lie nor does she embellish stories. So when “mommie dearest” suddenly shows up with a different story than B’s, I find mom’s version highly suspect. Bethenny seems to call a spade a spade always, and I’m sure admitting that she had two awful parents was hurtful to admit to her entire viewing audience.

    • Adgirl says:

      Timothy Olyphant (sigh). The only reason I stuck Deadwood out so long….

      • Scorpiosue1102 says:

        Did you watch Justified on FX? Pretty danged good, but then Timothy Olyphant is on it :D.

  3. cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Lynn and everyone!

    Lynn, dear, you have a couple of Emails!

    Thank you!

  4. Andizi says:

    I never followed Jill Zarin on Twitter because I couldn’t stand her. I did follow Dina Manzo because I thought there may be some redeeming quality about her and really believe in the positivity, etc. and thought she did too. It was obvious to me when Dina blocked me (and I hardly ever tweet anything) that she was a shallow, hateful, judgemental person (and I’m being kind). She blocked me likely because I follow TweeterLaura and Lynnchicago. I’m not hurt though. It just confirmed and set my opinion straight about her. As for Jill Zarin…. I HATE her now for turning this whole Bullying into some public statement about HER! I was bullied in school because of my size. I was called “fat”, “ugly”, etc. I look back now at pictures and realize I was never any of those things. The boys were just making fun of me because I was taller than them and I was really smart in school, and an excellent athlete. Basically they were making me feel bad because they were inadequate themselves. My mother wasn’t helpful either. She was somewhat of a bully too. I contemplated harming myself because of how I felt about myself. I even hated myself. However, because I had ZERO self esteem, I ended up getting a nose job at 18 and I worked hard on changing my self image. Long story short, I still struggle sometimes with trying to like myself and what I look like because the bullying has scarred me. So yes, I HATE Jill Zarin because she has no idea what bullying is and what it does. She’s a selfish piece of crap for demeaning the true victims and taking the spotlight away to elevate her status and garner pity! SHAME SHAME SHAME on you JILL ZARIN!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Kids can be cruel. They most likely repeat the behaviour they’ve seen at home. We remember those horrible memories so vividly, yet when we see pictures of the past we wonder what was I thinking? We look “normal”, yet due to the exaggeration of the bullies, we had a different image of ourselves. When we see pictures of the bullies, they were usually ugly, mean and were just jealous! Look back, shake your head and smile. They wanted to break you, but you survived and are here to tell the tale. You won!

    • KellitaM says:

      I’m so sorry about your experiences of being bullied. It’s horrible what psychological damage people can do to one another. I agree that bullies are insecure people who feel more powerful by having power over others. Hang in there and don’t let the losers impact how you feel about yourself today.

      I also agree with you on this: Shame on Jill Zarin!!

      • Andizi says:

        Thank you. That was kind. If there is a silver lining to this, it is that my 8 year old son has a very healthy self esteem because I make sure of it every day!

    • buffywood says:

      I am so sorry for what you experienced. My 13 year old daughter occasionally has similar issue. Just yesterday she was upset as one of the girls at her school said something like “God you’re fat Tiffany, I can see your rolls through your shirt from here” totally out of the blue. This other girl has had some emotional issues during the past year (her parents are splitting, her mother is a hoarder, the girl acts outs out sexually, etc).
      I will tell you the same thing I told her… In your heart and your head you need to know that they are not worth your time, thoughts, or your emotions. These are way too precious to give them to people like that. In your mind simply say “To hell with them”. I know that is much easier said than done. This girl (and the ones you dealt with) does not deserve anything more than your pity. Then we worked on replies for her to use in the future as her showing that it bother her just invites more torment.

      • Andizi says:

        Thank you. You are kind as well. As I replied to KellitaM, the silver lining here is that I make sure my 8 year old son has a healthy self esteem every day! Oh, and he definately knows how harmful bullying is, I’ve taught him well on that subject. He might be silly but he is kind and compassionate towards others.

        • Zoey says:

          It sounds like you and Buffy are doing a great job with your kids! Keep up the good work, it’s not easy.

    • Tara F says:

      I totally agree with you — SHAME on Jill and Dina 😦

    • joan says:

      Growing up, I was blessed to have been born with a congenital deformity in my face and mouth that developed into recurring tumors. I was tormented every day from the time I could remember until I had my face rebuilt in the 90’s. My father called me “Hare Lip” because that was his way of ‘toughening me up’ because the kids were gonna call me something ‘worse’. When Kelly started her ‘bullying’ bs during the vacation from hell, it tripped something in me and really pissed me off. Now Jill starts this dumbass campaign that is perhaps more aggravating than anything else I’ve heard lately. Bullys are a real problem, children are killing themselves over this issue, but to have her mouthing off like this, it seems to trivialize EVERYTHING that really happens. That little girl who lost her mom to Huntington’s Disease is REALLY being bullied by her neighbors in perhaps the most hateful way. That little girl that was kicked into a coma by that teenaged boy in Florida was REALLY bullied. That Irish teenager that killed herself was REALLY bullied both before and AFTER her death. For Jill to cry about being bullied by people that think she is a pompous overstuffed idiot that needs to have a ‘minder’ is totally offensive. But, how do you possibly reach someone like her or Kelly and convince them to stop this assinine behavior? In their eyes, they are victims. In my eyes, they are victimizers, plain and simple.

      • Andizi says:

        Joan – I’m so sorry for what you went through and your story is touching and your comments right on. When Kelly started her rant about bullying, it dredged up my painful memories and I was angry for her trivializing (perfect word) what is a very serious and real issue for girls and boys who didn’t win the “lottery in looks”. Jill and Kelly reminded me of those bullies in school and to think that they believe THEY were victims? That disgusts me. I wish I could be on a panel facing those two and swap stories about bullying. I’ll bring those jerks to tears!

  5. Waxdiva says:

    Great recap! Poor Dina… she was called a prude! That is hardcore bullying right there. How did she live through that??? She should have talked about how Tommy got through his school years being bullied because he’s ‘different.’ Oh yeah, I forgot… she probably hasn’t seen or talked with Tommy since they got married.

    RE Treetrunk’s bankruptcy hearing: apparently the hearing on the 18th had something to do with their rental units and not their marble mansion on Indian Lane.

  6. KellitaM says:

    Great blog!

    Ugh. Bethenny’s mom. By selling Bethenny’s pics to the tabloids, she’s only confirming that she’s a selfish, unloving mother who doesn’t have her daughter’s best interests at heart.

  7. Waxdiva says:

    A fantastic article re the Salamis!!! If you don’t know the back story about them, this encapsulates their shady doings going back to 2008 and uncovers the various sock puppets that they use. Great to know before tonight’s DC reunion. Read more below…

    “If all you know about the Salahis is what you’ve seen on Bravo, you probably figure they’re a party-loving couple with some pretty extraordinary self-delusions. Michaele appears to lie fairly often, but harmlessly so. Other than that famous made-up attack on housewife Mary Amons’ daughter, Tareq seems like a reasonably likable fellow. He appears to lie and exaggerate a lot, but, really, what aggressive salesman doesn’t?
    And indeed, that may be exactly what the Salahis are like when the cameras aren’t rolling. But the peculiar thing about the DC franchise of Real Housewives is that the Salahis were real life news items in the DC area long before they were cast on the show.”


    They are appearing at the opening of a local bowling alley (for real).

  8. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Turned on the t.v. And the Stanger was on. Last year she lost a lot of weight and looked good. I guess she said “forget the gym, I’ll just pack my ass into spandex 2 sizes too small” Patti was shown viewing her NY office for the first time. For this occassion she chose to wear a tiny jacket from the jr.s dept, a hot pink Lycra dress and stilettos so high she could only shuffle in them. Her tight dress emphasized her large bosom. Unfotunately it also emphasized her flabby mid-section and non-existant backside. Does Patti not own a mirror. Your clothing should camoflage flaws and accentuate assets. The hot pink number did none of the above. Patti, stick to pantsuits with low cut tops. This episode wasn’t funny, cute, or any of the things I watched it for in season 1. I’m taking off my DVR list.
    DC tonight, WwwwHhhhhhOooooo!!!!

    • realminkey says:

      Stanger’s no looker, that’s for sure. It’s amazing what they can do with publicity photos, isn’t it? Her only good feature is her legs. Other than that, she might as well just wear a big ol’ potato sack over her head, right down to her thighs.

  9. Amber...Real Wife says:

    absurdtosublime had a ditty about tweetmaxine. tweetmaxine says that Jeanna and Donn have been dating and that’s why Vicki filed for divorce. Yikes lol

  10. Amber...Real Wife says:

    tweet maxine

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      said Jeanna and Donn have been “dating” and that’s the reason Vicki filed for divorce. Yikes.


  11. TrueLifeDiva says:

    I find it hard to believe anyone takes tweetmaxine seriously.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Exactly! If people would stop following TM, the garbage would go away. She/He isn’t funny, its just vicious complete fabrication. To pay any attention to what this moron has to say is insane in itself.

      • justanothermary says:

        Truly – if you follow TweetMaxine – hit the unfollow button. It’s a very positive thing to do. The planets will align, the skys will open and love and light with rain from the Heavens. Or, you just won’t have to put up with her constant crapola.

  12. OneMoreInBoston says:


    Not sure if this was intentional:

    “They’re not victims, they have an opportunity to really do the right thing and get behind a real cause. Instead they both turn it and focus it on themselves and trying to imply that they have been bullied? Are they serious? This is really sick!”

    Seems very timely in light of recent events right here on this blog.

    Evidently this “don’t bully me because I’m a victim” mentality is not limited to “the stars” of Bravo.

  13. OneMoreInBoston says:

    OK so I looked at all the Bethanny photos. I just feel so sad. Pictures of her as a happy smiling toddler morphing into a guarded, sad eyed, tween.

    all I could think was: These are all the pictures this woman has of her daughter. That’s it no more. No relationship, no grandchildren’s pictures, nothing. Just so sad that any mother would not have any type of relationship with her child and then exploit what little relationship she had for $$.

    I don’t think she leaked the pictures for $$$, I think she wants attention, and Bethanny isn’t going down that road.

  14. OneMoreInBoston says:

    OK- Say what?!?!

    “Michael Lohan Crashes Charity Event Then Sends Angry Texts”

    Real Housewives of Atlanta star Kim Zolciak is using her fame for good by teaming up with Unite Hair Care to donate one million dollars worth of hair products to benefit the Los Angeles Mission!
    The event was held Tuesday night at the new Millions of Milkshakes in Culver City, California, where Kim also created her own flavor.
    Unfortunately, there was some drama going on behind the scenes but PerezHilton.com has exclusive details of what went down.
    Turns out Michael Lohan was rumored to be attending the event but publicists asked him not to show up as his attendance might take away from the whole charity aspect of it all.
    And despite Lohan being asked NOT to attend, he showed up anyway with girlfriend Kate Major.
    Lohan tried to play it off claiming Kim personally invited him, saying “I called her today and she said to come.” However, Kim never answered his call, and according to our sources, she doesn’t even personally know Lohan or Major.
    All of this didn’t stop Lohan from begging asking Zolciak for a photo op on the red carpet to which she accepted and the party crasher finally left.
    Awkward! What happened to no longer chatting to the media, Lohan?
    Things then got crazier after the event when Lohan angrily began texting one of the publicists. Check out the exclusive texts after the jump!
    Michael Lohan then engaged in a texting war with one of the PR reps who asked him not to attend and sent the following:

    For you to think I took away from the homeless when I feed them every sunday and you don’t know me, is really sad.. Why would you say the things you do and lie and judge me when you ha e no clue.. If you are trying to gey a rise out of me or entice me to beat ur ass , you won’t,, that’s not me anymore or what God wants.. A a matter of fact, He will deal with you, not me.. I am soeey if I offended you or did something to you to feel as you do.. Do what you want.. You look like crap to everyone for lying.. If anyone wants attention it’s you.. You are lost in Marios shadow. You have known Kate for 5 yrs and acted like you didn’t know her.. Who is the pathetic one.. Forward that, you loser Or say it to my face instead of shaking my hand like you did, I phoney….”

    Read More: Michael Lohan Crashes Charity Event Then Sends Angry Texts | PerezHilton.com http://perezhilton.com/2010-10-21-michael-lohan-crashes-kim-zolciaks-charity-event#ixzz130NtnzYX

    I spared you all the rest of Lindsey’s Daddy’s rant.

    But Kim DOES know him right? Was I hallucinating the night that NeNe was telling
    Lindsey Lohan’s Daddy to go away? (in which she was hi-larious, by the way)

    • Waxdiva says:

      Daddy Lohan should get together with the Salamis and Randy and Evi Quaid to trade grifter stories.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Yeah, the Kim/Sheree fight scene in front of the restaurant, Season 2. Lohan pops out of the restaurant to see if Kim’s OK. (I guess Kim was supposed to meet with him and another dude at the restaurant about something.) NeNe’s bewildered when she sees Lohan. NeNe’s talking head: “Lindsay Lohan’s daddy? How random is that?” In front of the restaurant, NeNe keeps calling him “Lindsay Lohan’s Daddy” and tells him to get his ass back to Malibu.

      Classic RHOA bizzarro world. LOL

    • JKW says:

      Didn’t he show up one time when they came out of a restaurant in Atlanta ? I am almost positive it was Kim and she was making out with him. In fact I think NeNe was with her and she ran over to him. It was difficult to tell what they were actually doing but everyone assumed they were making out. So she does know him.

  15. Waxdiva says:

    Just checking in on Melissa Gorga’s facebook site and found this…

    Treetrunk eatin’ ketchup sandwiches?…. I’m sure she makes her own ketchup…

  16. klmh says:

    Happy Halloween!

    Or here:

  17. TrueLifeDiva says:

    I wonder if Bethenny’s mom realizes selling those pictures is the match that lit the fire that burned her only bridge to Bethenny and Bryn. Its a good thing Jasons parents seem like wonderfull people. Bethenny won’t allow that cycle to be repeated with her children…

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I agree. What was most telling was the pictures stop after Bethenny was a teen. No pictures of Bethenny as a young woman. Also very little milestone pics like graduations, church/synagogue, cotilions/bat mitzvah etc. Unless she plans on selling more in the future, her collection was small and sad.

  18. OneMoreInBoston says:

    “The Real Reason Teresa Giudice Has Yet To Renew Her Contract For Real Housewives!”

    “When you hear it from this perspective, it actually makes perfect sense!

    We reported earlier that Teresa Giudice was holding up production of the third season of The Real Housewives of New Jersey because she was demanding a bigger salary, and new sources are coming forward to verify that this is indeed true – but NOT for the reasons one would assume!

    According to insiders, while all the women technically make around $250k for a season, the network compensates Caroline and Jacqueline’s adult children for their appearances, so the Manzo families make closer to $310k and $270k respectively!

    Meanwhile, despite Teresa’s kids constantly being featured on the reality show, they are not compensated any extra due to child labor laws!

    The insider explains:

    “I think people deserve to know the truth. Bravo pays Caroline and Jacqueline more than Teresa and she isn’t holding out because she thinks she’s bigger. She just wants to make the same. She brings in ratings and [really] invites viewers into her house, even the birthing room of her daughter. That she gets less — that’s crazy! Teresa understands her children can’t get paid because of issues with child labor laws, but she just she just wants them to have a college fund. It’s actually harder for Teresa because her children are small. She doesn’t have a nanny, and she needs to pay babysitters when Bravo forces her to leave town for filming and press. Bravo could make it even by giving the Giudice girls a college fund or trust or by paying for a babysitter or an assistant for Teresa, yet they won’t.”


    If this is true, then we DEFINITELY think that Bravo needs to step it up and help that family out!

    Although we’re happy to see Danielle gone this season, we’d be devastated if Teresa left the show, too!

    What do U think?? Does Teresa deserve to make more money?”

    Read More: The Real Reason Teresa Giudice Has Yet To Renew Her Contract For Real Housewives! | PerezHilton.com http://perezhilton.com/2010-10-20-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-teresa-giudice-wants-to-make-as-much-as-her-co-stars#ixzz130TYyLaS
    Celebrity Juice, Not from Concentrate

    • twoile says:

      OMIB; I too agree only with the concept that Bravo create a college fund 4 the children……but it is certain that this is a “recent” thought by T on behalf of her children as she I.E . T has not done anything in that direction dispite all the cash available to date. It is an argument worth winning on behalf of the children, but only if T&/G can’t get their slimy hands on it ever.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Considering how much debt they have WHO would give them anything with a monetary value? College funds can be liquidated too (and not covered by bankruptsy petition)! Nice try using the sympathy for your kids card!

    • Waxdiva says:

      I’m sure this salary issue is not new. Tree and Juicy are not as stoo-pid as they look. If I were Bravo, I’d tell her to fagitaboutit and just not film those little trolls. If they were so concerned about their kids college, future, whatever, what did Tree do with her $250,000 advance on her first ‘cookbook?’ I’m sure she didn’t do the second book without an advance either. As for the babysitting angle, her parents are at her beck and call… I know that some don’t believe that her parents live with them, but I tend to believe that they do…they have never had a babysitting issue until this little salary squabble with Bravo. IMO, this dispute won’t last long, as Tree needs Bravo much more than Bravo needs her.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think minor children shouldn’t be getting paid because I don’t think they belong on the show. KEEP THEM OFF T.V.

      The Gosselin kids are going to be the biggest tragedy when it comes to reality tv and the lack of laws that protect minors in regards to it.

      • butterisafruit says:

        I agree, Rabble. Paul Peterson (Donna Reed Show) is very vocal on this. There are no laws for Reality Tv children so he went to PA to speak on the Gosselin children’s behalf. He said the lights alone are hard on children, and to have them beating down constantly is a health hazzard. He also went after OctoMom.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          His organization “A Minor Consideration” has been instrumental in having some laws passed in PA and Rep. Thomas P. Murt has been working hard to ensure they are enforced.

          Jon Gosselin was just in family court in efforts to have his children removed from the program. Unfortunately, Kate Gosselin has always had better and more capable lawyers.

          • kbinldo says:

            that woman needs to have her kids taken from her. then she’ll have to get a real job instead of using them as meal tickets.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              I feel so bad for those kids, their dad while loving is a total douche and their mother is the epitome of a narcissist. She literally makes me cringe.

              ITA about the kids being meal tickets, how sad that babies are forced to support themselves and their workshy parents.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Bravo’s notoriously cheap. Rob’s notorious for posting stuff that doesn’t make sense as long as a “source” hands it to him. (When he’s not lifting material from other bloggers, that is.) Teresa uses him to take out her trash when she wants something out there.

      Only a couple months ago or so, Rob had a column where an anon NJ housewife was complaining about the NJHW’s having a 3 year contract @ $3K per episode and no possibility of getting a raise or new contract until Season 4. 3K per episode, no possibility of a raise until Season 4, Rob said as he wept for these poor folks in their humble McMansions.

      Now, a couple months later, according to Rob, each HW is making $250K per season (lot more than $3K per episode) and T’s complaining? Because the adult kids on the show are paid? If so, that’s their money, not Caroline’s or Jac’s. Plus Ash is not on Season 3, per Ash. So Jac’s not getting the alleged 20K from Ash.

      If T wants to use the extended family plan pay scale, then her SIL and cousin should count, no?

      It’s more Rob Shuter/Teresa bullshit.

  19. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston, the only part of that article I agree with is the college fund part. I think Bravo should create some sort of trust account in EACH minors name who appears on screen comparable to what a salary would be.
    Tree, all working parents have babysitter issues. I’m sure you or Juicy’s parents are usually the ones watching the kidlets. I’m not moved by your problems. Maybe you should give up the “fame” if it’s making life so difficult.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      You know, maybe I’ve been reading too many of @Olivia’s postings but this whole “debate” just seems like a big bullshit publicity scam.

      The “leaked” news of Teresa holding out for more money, the “leaked” response today- it just seem like a way to stay in the public’s mind during the downtime when they’re not on.

      Meanwhile if true- the 60K Theresa spent on curtains could have started a nice little college fund.

      • Olivia says:

        And I am sure that a lot of her creditors feel as entitled to retrieve some of their money as well.

        Paying these people for what exactly? Until they were tapped by Bravo and agreed to allow cameras to record their every burp and “bubbie” transplant, they were nobodies. Now they feel the need to demand more money for doing essentially nothing that requires working up a sweat or actually performing a honest day’s work?

        The sheer shallowness of these “stars” is unbelievable. Has anyone actually missed seeing any of these women who are currently on hiatus for one minute?

        The nation is suffering from with an unemployment rate that more than likely reaches well beyond the acknowledged 10%, people are losing homes in foreclosure, and the treasury is depleted. Yet these greedy, grasping, untalented idiots are “holding out” for more money and the opportunity to appear like fools in front of a camera!

        It just frost my cookies to read stuff like this and knowing that Caroline Manzo is being paid that much money for propping up her kitchen counters is just mind boggling.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        And her $250k book advance and bonus and royalties. Plus whatever the advance is on her new book. Plus her apperances for which she gets paid. None of which she would have if it weren’t for her “platform” RHONJ.

        Rob Shuter is one of her tame gossipers to leak info to. First Rob claims (based on his insider HW source) that they’re locked into a 3 yr contract @ $3/episode, with no possibilities of a raise until Season 4, and now all of a sudden the HW are each getting a quarter of a million each.

        Blatant public negotiating ploy. Perhaps learned at the knee of her bud JZ. Just as transparent too. At least as far as we know Jill pays her bills. Well, Bawby does.

    • pffffft says:

      I’m thinking a “therapy” fund would be more useful for these poor kids.

  20. OneMoreInBoston says:

    “New York “Housewife” Sonja Morgan will host a masquerade ball tomorrow in the Vault in Club 55 (Cipriani Wall Street), with Bravo taping the party for next season’s “Real Housewives of New York.” Morgan will be joined by fellow “Housewives” Jill Zarin, Ramona Singer (and husband Mario), Alex McCord and husband Simon Van Kempen, Kelly Killoren Bensimon, Luann de Lesseps and Bethenny Frankel.

    Also expected at the shindig, among others, are Anna Rothschild, actor/singer/vintner Gianni Russo (who played Carlo in “The Godfather,” among other roles), Tina Hillstrom, model/dancer Amina Bursese and Paul and Jane Schindler (Paul’s an entertainment lawyer).”

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/starr_report_Ggt6ozy4FbsUcST9mhlhAI#ixzz130XESi7Z

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Masquerade Ball (Sonja) instead of a Holloween Party (Kelly), bottomline the NY ladies get to dress up in costumes and go to a big girl party this year.

  21. AZ Girl says:

    Great recap Lynn. Top Chef Just Desserts and its drama is starting to wear on me. Morgan should have apologized to Heather for elbowing her in the mouth. If Yigit had confidence in his abilities he would not have taken all the bacon available and hidden it. I hate when the contestants do this. It actually lowers their creditability as a chef. I find Danielle difficult to watch. She has some very strange facial expressions. I really thought she was going to have a “Seth” moment in the stew room. Heather is a bitch plain and simple. I would love to see the final three to be Eric, Zach and Morgan with Eric taking the top prize.

    Watched Sister Wives (against my better judgment) and it was disturbing. Listening to the existing wives recap their own weddings and how their families would not attend was so sad.

    Looking forward to HWODC Reunion Part 2.

    • SavingGrace says:

      It certainly does take away from a Chef’s authenticity if they feel the need to “cheat”. And hogging up all the bacon (how punny!) was definitely cheating. The supplies are there for all the chefs not for just the use of one Chef.

      I hope Eric makes it to the final. That dessert yesterday was beautiful and I wanted to reach in through my TV and grab it.

      Heather is not as good as she thinks she is and next week she calls the other team, Team Losers. It looks like Team Diva unravels at Restaurant Wars.

      I’ll be tuning in to watch. Hopefully Heather will go home. She’s not as good as she thinks she is.

      And I have a feel Yigit & Zac took Heather’s rice crispies. Those two are the real Team Diva. Heather is only part of it cuz no one on the show likes her.

  22. Olivia says:

    I am going to step out of line here and offer some support to Bethenny’s mother by way of those photos. Whether or not she “sold” them to the press is not my issue. And I am not trying to “take sides” in this dispute because I do not pretend to know these people, or have” been a witness to their relationship over the years.

    When Bethenny describes her “horrendous childhood”, I pictured a child virtually on her own and the adults in her life more or less abandoning her to her own devices as she went around raising herself. A poor, pitiful, unloved little girl that nobody cared about.

    But those pics tell a different story. It appears that she was photographed on many occasions. It also appears that she had been given birthday parties over the years as attested by those pictures showing her blowing out candles on cakes and opening presents. Look at the one where she is opening Christmas gifts and seems to be surrounded by a whole lot of gifts that would belie her statements to a certain degree. If memory serves, she even went so far at to inform Jill when they were at the racetrack together that she was never celebrated on her birthday. These pictures show otherwise.

    Some have commented on the fact that she failed to smile more as she grew older. As a mother who has raised 4 kids, the teen years can be brutal. Most kids become secretive, belligerent, and sulky owing much in part to just being teens. Most outgrow that attitude in time but it does come with the territory. Bethenny may not be smiling in some because she has reached that age where adults become a “nuisance” and the request to be photographed is another intrusion into their world.

    It is safe to assume that something triggered Bethenny’s rejection of her mother. Otherwise we would not have been made privy to her version of events. But that being said, those pictures do raise some questions of just how “bad” she had it as she continually describes herself as “being raised by animals”. That in itself is pretty harsh statement. But it does appear that someone thought enough of her to take pictures recording moments of her life that serve as memories.

    I still maintain that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Bethenny prefers us to believe that her upbringing was equal to that of “Oliver Twist” while her mother suggests that it was more of a “Leave It To Beaver” existence. Each one cannot be right. The dichotomy here is much too large to overlook.

    Just my two cents.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Maybe that was the mother’s justification in releasing the photos. To show it wasn’t all that bad.

      • Olivia says:

        Bethenny is writing a book that will come out in late winter or early spring. I am sure her mother wants to get her own version of events on record before publication.

        I am not attempting to vindicate the mother but merely pointing out that the vision Bethenny has left us with is a little out of whack with some things included in those pictures. For all I know, they may have only taken those shots of her than disappeared until the next event. She is giving an impression of herself that may not square completely with the facts.

        It appears that her father may very well have turned his back on her but she does appear appropriately dressed and groomed from those pictures while the view she suggests is one of total neglect.

        From what Bethenny has described, I pictured her as the “Poor Little Match Girl” pressing her face against the window trying to get in. These pictures show another facet to her life that she seems to have preferred to overlook.

        I am not saying she is wrong, just that there seems to be other parts here that have gone unexamined and we seem to have taken whatever is being pushed out there at face value. For all I know her mother could be a monster but it does leave a lot of questions hanging out there.

        If true, than more’s the pity. If not, they have done her mother a huge wrong.

        • NormaJean says:

          I don’t think those pictures disprove Bethenny’s account of her childhood. She’s stated that it was feast or famine growing up. A new man would come into her mother’s life and there would be lots of money and gifts and then he would be gone and they were eating off of a card table.

          What I do see in those pictures is a child who was rarely smiling. I see a girl with sad eyes and dark circles. What I don’t see is a mother showing her child love and affection. Where are those pictures?

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            Again in the mom’s defense, as a single mother SHE was the one taking the pictures.

            My dad is the photographer in our family and I have few pictures of us together because of that.

            Personally, I see nothing that proves OR disproves Bethanny’s claims. She looks like any other sulky teenager to me.

            Most of the talk about her childhood was psychological, as in her father wanted nothing to do with her after the divorce, the parents both had anger issues, the mother was an alcoholic and emotionally neglected her, it was a toxic relationship, etc.

            • Olivia says:

              I was not attempting to exonerate her mother by any means but merely pointing out that the picture that Bethenny has drawn does have a few holes in it.

              I seem to remember that scene where she was celebrating her birthday at the racetrack and she tells Jill how she never really had a birthday party. Yet those pictures clearly show a kid blowing out candles and opening gifts.

              All I am trying to say is that perhaps, in her own perception, there may be some gaps that have been erased. I first came away seeing a badly neglected child that no one cared about who was forced to raise herself and was essentially ignored. The pictures offer a different version, IMHO.

              I am only suggesting that we do not have a clue other than what we have been told by one side. Danielle Staub has indicated a completely different picture of how she was raised and it is now in question as to whether or not she was even adopted.

              We have been led to believe that these people are wealthier than they are, that marriages are intact, and that these ladies are exactly as they are portrayed only to find out otherwise.

              It is clear that there is a problem between Bethenny and her mother but some of those pictures offer another side to the story that she was just some poor little kid wandering the streets, alone in the world being “raised by animals”.

              Someone did care enough to take pictures of her. The same person who managed to save them as well over the years.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                I think perception is definitely part of it.

                I personally only remember two birthday parties as a child but there aren’t any pictures to proof it.

                Interestingly enough, the only picture I have of me on my birthday (a picture me blowing out the candles on a birthday cake) I don’t remember that celebration.

                Any feeling I may have of being short-changed on my birthday isn’t so much my parents doing but being born in between Christmas and New Years.

                Maybe that is why I seem to over compensate when I through my kids birthday parties. It seems like kids here in Orange County have the type of parties that growing up, I only though the children of movie stars had.

                But here, bouncehouses, pony rides and bells and whistles seem like the standard.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Bethenny said it was feast or famine depending on what “daddy” her mom was latched on to at the time. She also stated she had no supervision – was drinking, clubbing before 16 – so where was her mother when she was out painting the town? IF Bethenny believes she had a horrible childhood – that is her’s to say and own. Her mother reacts when $$$ is involved, which is just as telling as putting Bethenny’s childhood on display.

            • Tootsie says:

              WCW I agree with you. Some of the deepest scars are unseen by human eyes. Frequently when my grown daughter tells a story it seems much different from the way I remember the story. She seem like a sad little soul, birthday parties can’t erase other damages. As a mother, would any of us have left it get this far?

    • 2Stupid says:

      I usually agree with you wholeheartedly, but just because you are given a birthday party doesn’t mean you are not living a shell shocked life. Bethenny said on many occassions she had to help her mom from being drunk in the bathroom, also bulimiac. I grew up in a very similar environment and from the outside people might have thought I lived a priviliged life. A very few people, who new the truth new on many occasions it was a war zone. I felt very isolated and lonely and never really wanted people to get too close. Things can seemingly be normal from the outside and be very different on the inside.

      The idea that someone thought enough to take pictures, more relates to people trying to keep up the fascade. Her family was very well known, and her parents probably didn’t want people to know how troubled their homelife really was. Her stepfather backed up her story about the mom and the mom backed up the story about the stepfather. I am inclined to believe it was probably more horrific than Bethenny has let on.

      • Olivia says:

        I guess what I am trying to suggest is that sometimes we are all too eager to accept everything we hear at face value.

        In a day and age where “tv confessionals” seem to be the norm, there are times when I have to step back and ponder the whys and wherefores. Personally, I felt rather uncomfortable having Bethenny’s visits to a therapist televised, wondering why this therapist would allow cameras to record these private sessions in the first place.

        Again, I am not outright denying her claims but offering the “benefit of doubt” to a mother who may, or who may not, deserve this unfortunate portrayal. Unquestionably there is little doubt that she prefers to distance herself from her mother. Her reasoning may be quite valid. We just don’t know.

        But it is also interesting to note that her mother was quite capable of calling her home on her landline at the exact same moment that she was giving birth which showed that she had some means to get in touch with her even after a 10 year silence. Bethenny has made this estrangement part of her narrative. It is she who invites the speculation.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          Slightly off topic-

          I think if a patient waives their HIPPA rights, and the therapist is game for it, filming her therapy should be allowed.

          I’ve only had one therapy session that was an absolute disaster, yet seeing Bethenny’s therapist made me want to try it again. (lord know I need it)

          That was the big hue and cry when Danielle’s frat boy plastic surgeons were filmed discussing her wonky cleavaledge and she had not waived her HIPPA rights.

          As a HIPPA officer at my 4 medspas, I was horrified to see it, thinking at the time that it was a lawsuit waiting to happen.

        • Noelle says:

          I’ve read your above posts and understand why you’ve stated what you have. You’ve posted some very valid points that I tend to agree with. There are two sides of every story and the truth does indeed lie in the middle, as I’ve discovered in almost every story of a “he said/she said” or a “she said/she said”…whatever the case may be.

          Bottom line, perception (of what is said and done) is unique to each individual (may greatly differ and does so.) I truly believe in the “benefit of the doubt,” especially when both sides have not had equal opportunity to do so. This is my opinion only.

          Like you, I don’t know these women, but am not seeing what others see in pics of Bethenny. I have two sweet loves of my own and I can tell you as a fact that one is so serious and reserved that she barely smiles in any pics…even as a baby. (We now joke that she’s an astute 60 yr old in a 14 yr old body!..She laughs too!)

          I like Bethenny..she’s my favorite of all the housewives’ in the franchise.

          This is JMHO.

          • Noelle says:

            As it was pointed out to me,

            Isn’t that Bethenny’s mom posing with her(in the ski trip picture) to our computer right?

            Hmm….not sure.

    • Deek says:

      You can have the perfect child on the outside and a horrible childhood on the inside. It’s unrealistic to think that her entire childhood would have been as bad as “A Child Called It”. But there are plenty of cases where children are horribly abused whether sexually, verbally or physically and people have no idea because everything appears okay.

      I have many happy photos from my own childhood, but my mother was incredibly abusive. She just knew how to hide it well, and so did I.

  23. American Idiot says:

    I was thinking about reality tv today, and I thought that the Survivor was the first reality tv show I watched. Then I remembered the documentary series (3 shows) on PBS called “The Farmer’s Wife” It was circa 1995? on PBS, maybe Frontline. It was so compelling and heartwrenching to watch. A farmer and his wife and 3 girls try to make a living on their small farm and struggle with all kinds of issues, including no money, bad weather, family problems, etc. I remember the wife had to clean houses for extra money, and the husband had to go work in a factory. I also remember her throwing a Halloween party for her kids, with everything purchased at the dollar store.

    I can’t remember if the show had a happy ending, but I do remeber the couple had one good bumper crop and went back and paid off all their creditors.

  24. NMhousewife says:

    My thoughts on last night’s show:

    I was surprised that Danielle stayed and Erika was sent packing as I agree that she has shown herself to be very talented more so than Danielle. Apparently her dessert must have REALLY been bad.

    I agree that Morgan comes off a bit abrasive, but clearly he is very very talented. Do I find him as much of a rock star as he seems to think himself to be? Not at all, but he continually shows he can think on his feet and is constantly at the top during challenges. In fact, although I wish he just didn’t talk as much as he does, I can’t quite find any hate for him and think he may win Top Chef.

    Heather on the other hand, although has shown some talent, is clearly not as talented as she is in her own mind, and she has a crummy personality to boot. She is the kind of girl who probably in the past, when things were not going her way, would find someone to blame for her troubles. Also as a reminder regarding Morgan’s behavior, he was shown showing encouragement and sympathy to both Heather (with the bangs) and Seth when they were down, whereas Heather just yells insults to their faces.

    Again, it is not that I am “in love” with Morgan, I have just been looking for evidence to why Heather might have cause to hate Morgan so much, and am just not seeing it other than she is very threatened by him. It is hard to really know if he told her sorry for the elbow bump because it may be that Bravo just didn’t show that, and it is hard to take Heather too seriously because she is a classic case of the boy (girl) who cried wolf in my eyes. (Morgan hit me in the face…..Morgan stole my rice krispies..) Oh, yea, I also made note of the fact that when Yigit (whatever) won at the end, Morgan went over with a smile on his face and congratulated him. I don’t recall Heather congratulating any one on their win, usually she has a sour look.

    I personally don’t think Morgan stole her treats just as I don’t think Alex from last season stole the pea puree. Morgan is certainly not threatened by Heather as much as Heather is trying to imply.

    The big mystery in my mind is who is “misplacing” these items? I think it is a Bravo producer sent in to amp up the tension between them personally.

    • JKW says:

      NM I agree, Morgan can be an ass but he has won many of the challenges. Heather is a whiner and cry baby all the time. She was even pissed off at Morgan when they won because she didn’t get as much attention for the center piece last wk. Be happy you won ! Danielle is just odd…I was positive she would be going home. Heather and the Divas have pretty much made me root for Morgan just so they don’t win. I would love Eric to win..the most normal and humble of the bunch…but I don’t see that happening. As for Yigat and the bacon, he did tell the Divas that they could share it but didn’t offer to any one else.

      • NMhousewife says:

        Agree about Eric being the most normal (drama-free) as well as Erika. I noticed a lot of people cried when she had to leave, and I don’t think it was tears of relief. I don’t think he’ll make the the finals either because he struggles so much it seems. My stomach is in knots watching him in turmoil trying to come up with concepts, but then to see how fast it comes to Morgan, I really would be surprised if he (M) didn’t win. I am glad to hear Team Diva may be breaking apart next week..too annoying

  25. Adgirl says:

    Why am I so outraged with Jill’s idea to report cyber bullying to employers?

    It could be because:
    1. Jill is hijacking a very real and dangerous issue for her own vanity.
    2. The idea of reaching out to employers is just so distasteful I have no words.
    3. Her idea of bullying is actually disagreeing or critiquing her.
    4. She is one of the biggest bullies ever featured on TV – and she is friendly with bullies, such as Stanger.
    5. I Hate Jill Zarin.

    • Ellabean says:

      Perfect summary, Adgirl. My head has been spinning in fury at Zarin’s latest with the cyberbullying crap. I was so mad – I couldn’t put it into words. Thanks.

    • SavingGrace says:

      Maybe she is trying to get back at all her ex-fans that complained to Bravo?

      An eye for an eye, that one.

      She always lashes out when she feels she’s been wronged wheather she imagines it or not. I think she missed a lot of the show when she was EXPORTED to Down Under. She is probably coiled tightly like the rattlesnake she is striking at everything and everyone who gets in her path.

      I have to wonder who she is even trying to feud with? I say Alex. A big hint came from a tweet exchange where Alex went over to Kelly’s table and Kelly ignored her. Cuz you know, Kelly feels NO need to exchange with her coworkers in real life, cuz like it’s not like Bravo is filming her in her real life. This to me shows that Kelly is still Jill’s peon. Whatever Jill says Kelly does.

    • Di says:

      Hi Adgirl, I totally understand your outrage. Jill seems like a classic narcissist projecting her own behaviors onto others. Luckily, if she follows through with her little plan, she’ll probably get sued for defamation and lose! Karma is a b%^ch! 🙂 But I’m sure her lawyers have already told her that, she’s just trying to get “her fans” to do her dirty work again. I hate Jill Zarin.

  26. Ellabean says:

    I just stumbled on Bravo’s airing the re-rerun of the final installment of the 3-part
    New York finale.

    I have never written this before on this blog as many have, but it is now time for me:

    I hate Jill Zarin.

  27. Kathi says:

    I rewatched the scene several times and Morgan would have had to been a contortionist with amazing speed to have elbowed Heather in the face. He was across the table, not next to her. Its possible that Zak (or some beets) hit her.

  28. JKW says:

    Funny that Heather didn’t have a fat lip. She cooked the whole time then later held ice on it when the judging started. At least she put it down when they came over to her. I guess she wanted someone to ask what happened.

    • SavingGrace says:

      Im sure they did so Im glad they edited that part out. She got him back really good when she accused him of stealing her rice crispies treats. Cuz you know rice crispies will win Top Chef Desserts — NOT!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I am sure Morgan was wishing he thought of making them. I think they would have just finished the show with that and declared Morgan the All Time Winner of Top Chef: Just Desserts.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      It’s hard to tell if she had a fat lip or not when I can’t see past her big mouth.

      • JKW says:

        Actually she never has her big mouth shut. If I was going to steal something it would be rice krispie treats way before pea puree. YUK. I was hoping she would take the cold rag and shove it in her mouth for a few hours.

  29. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Why do I have a feeling that Jill leaked this story to Radaronline?

    It didn’t take Sonja Morgan too long to get back in a party mood after an arrest on drunk driving charges.

    The Real Housewives of New York star attended cast mate Romona Singer’s party to launch her own wine brand Wednesday, and then continued to drink after leaving and hitting another event, until it was time to wobble home, RadarOnline.com learned exclusively.

    Morgan got popped on drunk driving charges in June when she failed a field sobriety test in Southampton, New York. (See her mug shot here.) But that arrest hasn’t hampered her taste for partying, as eyewitnesses discovered Wednesday night.

    First Morgan downed some wine at Singer’s party. In nearly every episode of the show Romona can be seen sipping her Pino Grigio and the Bravo reality star was sharing the launch of her new wine at Serefina Restaurant while filming the fourth season of Real Housewives of New York.

    Sonja slipped out early and went up the street to party at neighboring club, Lavo.

    “Sonja was walking around at Lavo saying she got drunk from Romona’s cheap wine,” said a club goer. “But she continued to drink.”

    The source told RadarOnline.com that Sonya was clearly feeling the effects of the alcohol by the end of the night and leaned on two men for some support when she left.

    Morgan, 46, made it home without a police escort.

    When contacted by RadarOnline.com, Bravo declined to comment.


    • Waxdiva says:

      Love Sonja! The ‘report’ does not clarify if Sonja was behind the wheel, which I strongly doubt… she either had a car and driver or a cab taking her home. She probably did get plastered on TurtleTime wine and left Ramona’s crap par-tae for better libations and a better party. What’s wrong with that??? This is really a non-story…

      Hate Jill Zarin. and Tree Joo-dice. and the Stanger. Just had to say that.

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        I agree with you, it is a non-story. I don’t know why someone would leak this. The person who leaked this story may be jealous of Sonja because she is the new star of RHONY. I wonder who that could be? I HATE JILL ZARIN!!!!!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Thanks. That answered my question. I was looking for an article on another NYHW. Jenn Sale had been tweeting without names what was going on but with no links. Now she just tweeted this awhile ago:

      “Basically, Foghorn knows she effed up big time Tweeting what she did yesterday, so she leaked a nonsense story about Sonja 2 distract us. 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck” http://twitter.com/jennifersale/status/28056252680

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        I knew it was Jill. It was so transparent. Jill will never change!

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Exactly. Classic JZ….redirect and distract. She gets puff pieces or a story held in exchange for “insinuendo” about other HW’s.

    • KellitaM says:

      Sonja’s one of my favorite housewives. If she wasn’t driving and a danger to anyone, I say she deserves a night of carousing. LOL. Party on, Sonja!

  30. lillybee says:

    As long as she is not driving, I see no problems with Sonja drinking.

  31. Need a Hobby says:

    After yesterday’s spectacle and the appropriation of the name of a good cause for totally self-serving ends…..

    The Foghorn would find a way to make Easter all about her.

    Or Passover. Yeah, that would fit too. Feel free to add your own holiday, special occasion, historical event, etc.. I certainly don’t mean to leave anyone out.

    Remember how she managed to get Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement all ass backwards? Instead of meditating on her affronts to others, asking for forgiveness from God & others, and pledging to do better, she was checking her list of every single slight, real or imagined, that anyone had ever done to her, considering whether or not she could be just big enough to forgive them. Way to be unclear on the whole concept of the day.

    Foghorn is an equal opportunity, nondenominational offender. She’s transcendent in her endless capacity to “show her ass” in front of millions worldwide. She unites people of all origins, backgrounds, and faiths. Right now, on some remote South Pacific Island, there’s a pissed off cargo cult member scribbling on a paper, putting it in a bottle and sending it on its long journey across the sea. The message, when translated, reads: “I hate Jill Zarin.”

  32. Adgirl says:

    Dear Jill,

    We can’t stand your toxicity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bethenny, Sonja, Alex, Ginger, Adgirl, Alana Chandler ….

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think Danielle should keep Bethany’s name out of her mouth. She should just stick competing with the other Jersey trash (not saying people from Jersey are trashy- I am talking about the Ho-wifes).

    • Dawn says:

      Of course she does. She also said her sex tape would outsell the Kardhashian one (if that the right one? I’ve lost count with all of the wannabe actress’ sex tapes). Anyway, I’ve not heard much lately about the tape but I believe that we would have heard had it set new sales records in the porn industry.

      How many of you want to see Danielle naked?

  33. Rabble Rouser says:

    JZ makes me ill, she says mazel to Patti S for her ratings at the same time as trying to project herself as the defender of the helpless and weak.

    It’s like she isn’t even trying to cover up her bullshit and lies anymore. The only cruise boat I would like to see her on would be the Titanic.

  34. boston02127 says:

    Jill has no other avenue to take. She can’t get people to like her so she turns it around and calls them bullies. She would have been so much better off if she tried to be a good & kind person. Too late.

  35. Ellabean says:

    I always noticed that Jill didn’t drink. A Diet Coke girl she is. Nothing wrong with being a non-drinker. Yet ~

    I ‘ve often thought of this movie scene when it comes to Jill’s non-drinkerness (I know that’s not a word). I am aging myself – but what the heck: Remember the movie, “Terms of Endearment” ? The early on scene where earthy Jack Nicholson takes Miss Priss full of herself, Shirley MacLaine, out for their first date lunch? And she gets ridiculously dolled up. They are at the restaurant and the waitress asks for their drink order. McLaine’s character boasts that ‘ladies like her don’t drink’. A deadpan, signature Nicholson replies with:”Oh yeah, you need a drink alright. You need alot of drinks . Because alot of drinks is what it’s going to take to get that bug out of your ass.”

    I think of Jill in that way.;)

    • Adgirl says:

      I always found it hilarious that in contrast Bobby is usually half drunk.

    • lillybee says:

      Maybe Jill should drink, she might be a bit nicer.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        She has mean drunk written all over her! It doesn’t matter that she doesn’t imbibe – calling her castmates out on their consumption does – one of the million reasons why we hate Jill Foghorn Zarin!

        • Adgirl says:

          Her non-drinking is more proof to me that the story about Sonjia’s drinking was planted by her. The other proof is planting stories is Jill’s MO.
          It has her grubby little fingers all over it.

          • Ellabean says:

            Bingo. I thought the same thing. She seized on the DUI, and Morgan’s drinking – because its the one thing she can feel smug and secure about. “At least I don’t drink and drive. That makes me better.”

    • nathania says:

      I love that movie. There are so many great lines and great scenes in that movie. it’s a classic.

  36. AZ Girl says:

    Rich Amons and Jason Turner have blogs up on Bravo.com. They are at the bottom of the HWODC home page. They are hilarious. Rich talks all about “Man Rules”. What they are and how Tareq fails in “man rules”

    Jason ends his blog by stating “I don’t ever want to see Michaele make face cry again…ever” FACE CRY how perfect! I can’t describe Michaele fake cry better.
    I really enjoyed the men on this franchise (except Tareq). Ebong, Rich, and Jason were really cool to watch and obviously love their girlfriend/wives.

    chilling wine for the Reunion part 2. Too bad I can’t invite Sonja over to join me.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It’s either Face Cry or a very bad case of gas….but I’m with Rich – she looks really horrible when she pretends to cry.

  37. Rabble Rouser says:

    I don’t know what happened to my posted but Jill responded to my tweet about her supporting Patti at the same time as calling herself the great defender.

    Did you all see it?

  38. jeang says:

    Poor Bobby, you would get drunk too if you were stuck with that flabby ass bitch.

  39. AZ Girl says:

    If anyone is friends with Michaele Sahali on Facebook please post FACE CRY a few times and see what happens.

  40. jillz68 says:

    I have an idea based on this twitter BS by Zarin and other hw’s that start blocking people who don’t agree with them. I follow many of them except I was blocked by Zarin since I follow Ginger Zarin. Let’s all stop following these tools and perhaps block them and see what happens. If Lynn can get this many to follow her blog in not even a full year, it won’t take long for people to stop following these self absorbed asshats. They get off on having fans and I would like them to see their followers drop like a stone. There are a couple that I think totally deserve to be knocked down a few pegs such as Teresa, Jill, and now Dina. I am off to clean up my twitter account.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I don’t follow any of them- they squawk about haters following them but they don’t protect their tweets. I think the secretly like the attention.

  41. Katie says:

    O/t has anyone had micro-sculpting body contouring or laser liposuction?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Body contouring is a surgical subspecialty that focuses on sculpting the body through liposuction and/or abdominoplasty.

      A less-invasive body sculpting technique known as Micro-Sculpt Liposuction, which utilizes micro-cannulas to remove unwanted fat from the arms, waist, hips, and thighs without significant downtime. within one week of surgery.

      Smart lipo is THE new thing that everyone is talking about/requesting. There is quite a buzz around it and I have been looking into adding it to the clinics I oversee.

      the challenge is that you need to have an operating room, and there is no space available for a build pout.

      I HAVE had VelaShape which is non invasive, non ablative and since there is no blood- no operating room is needed. Very effective for cellulite- it’s really what it was developed for.

      this is another VERY interesting technology that uses COLD laser for body re contouring:

      the Zerona laser is the service I am the most geeked up about and I think is going to be the new wave of laser technology.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        sorry- it should of read: you can go back to work within one week of surgery.

        • Adgirl says:

          One more!
          You are my cyber consultant on all things body beautiful. My face rejuv consult is next Tues.
          I’ve been wondering about non-invasive lipo. I have a hideous scar on my belly from a bunch of surgeries I had 12 years ago. I had a lot of trouble healing due to excessive scar growth and a stubbon edema. It is really fatty and flabby around the scar area so I can’t wear cute pants. Would non-invasive lipo be a solution?

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            Is the scar a keloid scar? If yes- there is not much I would do near it-because it may keloid up more.

            If no, then show it on your consultation. There is a head on the laser that does the triniti treatment for face that also is very effective on scars. We have been successful at treating even icepick acne scarring that typically there wasn’t much that could be done.

            Also if you are scarring like that I don’t know if you’d want to play around with more invasive type of procedures, talk to them about VelaShape or Zerona.

            How long have you had the scars? If there still is edema, I’m assuming they’re recent?

            • Adgirl says:

              I’m soryy I should have clearer. I don;t have an edema now, and the scar itself doesn’t bother me but around the scar there is a lot of fat, mostly below it. It’s where a c-section would be, south of that it’s ugly & bulgy no matter what my weight.

      • Katie says:

        Very informative, thank you.

        Are the results comparable to standard liposuction? Have you heard anything about Athenix Body Contour centers?

  42. dancekrazy says:

    I’m sure we’ll all be back tonight after Tareq SaLIEhe tells his tall tale on BRAVO’s reunion, part 2. I got Michaele’s M.O.—-when she’s asked a question she can’t or doesn’t want to answer, her response is ALWAYS, “Do you feel good about being so negative?”, or “You should bless yourself rather than your house”, or “Do you wish us to go to jail?”, or “You are angry because I’m sick?”. The girl has the game down pat: just send it right back to the questioner or person making the statement.
    The two of them have some amazing “tells” for con artists, though. He blinks like crazy when he’s telling tales, and swallows hard, answers way too quickly……She glances up and to the left when she’s telling tales. The roles they play when people confront them is also very interesting: Tareq sits (usually eating, too), looking down as though pensive and deeply considering what is being said, and she gets indignant, flustered, and has to leave.
    Lynn, we need a new blog—-“I Hate the SaLIEhe’s”

    • Adgirl says:

      Waxdiva posted this link earlier upstream. It leads to an exhaustive article on all of the Salahis antics including dozens of complaints by them to law enforcement, trying to undermine a competing polo organization and discrediting people by assuming various handles oand making comments on news websites..
      I spent hours reading this today, mainly because the Salahis remind me of people I have the misfortune to know.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Excellent point Dancekrazy! Michaele Salahi learned from the best, Tariq Salahi, we’ll see them both in action tonight.

      • AZ Girl says:

        I should have started the drinking game. Every time a “Face Cry” appeared you take a drink. But now I glad I did not because everyone would be wasted at this point.

      • nathania says:

        I disagree. She’s 44. She didn’t become a conscienceless pathological liar in her thirties. If you read articles from people who ‘knew her when’ she has always had the same schtick. He may have learned some things from her, but not vice versa. She’s almost an undetectable liar but he is not, hence the tics and sweating when he is lying…that is a sign that some aspect of his conscience is still functioning, if just barely. I suspect Michaele could probably pass a lie detector test if it came down to it, one about anything, or even one where she was pretending to be someone else. She is one scary human being.

  43. error404 says:

    finally had a chance to watch RHoBH ep 1…

    They all remind me of other people… all except Camille who’s so vague, she looks like nothing. Did she even have a face? LOL

    Lisa? is sorta a cross between Jacqlyn Smith and the modeling agent from RHoDC.

    The weird blonde with the bad marriage (no, not Camille! the other one.) looks like a cross between Calista Flockhart and Julia Roberts. Do you think they pick out celebrity parts at the plastic surgeons like that episode of Guilligan’s Island?

    Kylie looks like Demi Moore and Kim, well Kim just looks like every other actress from the 60s and 70s..part Peggy Lipton, part Maureen McCormic, part Erin Murphy.

    The one with the basketball team and the icky husband looks like someone, but I can’t put my finger on it… it could just be my friend’s college roommate Barbara. lol

    So far, one episode seems to have more plot than an entire season of RHoNJ, which is easy to do I know, but could be interesting. I wonder how long it will take for the sibling friction to get dull?

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      Adrienne Maloof’s husband looked familiar to me too. He was one of the doctors featured on the reality show “Dr. 90210”.

    • nathania says:

      Camille comes across as someone who has been lobotomized. Perhaps key phrases have been entered into her brain for her to repeat given certain topics of conversation. I can only think her program malfunctioned the other night when she said, ‘cover your rat’…I only caught a bit of that show but the silence was deafening…I guess they put her in the shop for a repair.

  44. Dawn says:

    I don’t believe Bethenny’s mother’s version of events for one simple reason: she sold Bethenny out. On more than one occasion. If my children were famous, I would not sell information about them or pictures of them. The fact that a parent would do so is highly suspicious in my mind. It’s not the close knit, highly involved parents that you see exhibiting this behavior – it’s the ones that do not have a close relationship that are willing to accept payment for mementos, memories, photographs.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The fact that Bethenny didn’t want her mother anywhere around Bryn is all the proof I need to have that Bethenny has been realistic about her painful childhood really was.

      • nathania says:

        Her little closed mouth half-smile in most of the photos made me really sad; it shouts, ‘I’m not happy but I’m being told to smile so here is my best effort.’

    • error404 says:


      This idiot is so stupid, she’s about to claim she cared about Bethenny so much, she’d take her rings off before slapping her across the face. LOL

  45. Zoey says:

    Are we coming back here after DC Part Deux tonight?

    There’s a whole wikipedia page devoted to Tereq Salahi – gag – but it’s all so negative! Man, they have been hustling left and right for a while! How can they go on in life living like this? It seems they have spun themselves into a corner.

    We should all bombard Jill Z on Twitter with how much we loooove Sonja, ha!

  46. SillyMe says:

    Hi Lynn thanks for another great blog! I clicked on the link to Dina’s youtube video and couldn’t even finish 2 minutes of it, seems like she was just rambling on and on, but what I did notice is that half of the comments had this “Comment removed” and the only ones left were comments praising Dina. She must have deleted the comments that were not favorable to her. I found Andy’s “It gets better” video more heartfelt. 🙂

    • lillybee says:

      Tim Gunn’s too.

      • SillyMe says:

        Thanks I just searched for Tim Gunn’s video and find it very motivating and touching as well…:)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Andy and Tim are speaking from personal experiences and their hearts and it shows! Dina is a poser who needs to be surrounded only by what she considers positive/truth – negative comments are just not part of her little reality world.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I didn’t bother leaving a comment, I knew she’d delete it anyway. What I would have said is what I said above in the blog, how dare she use this day and her “It Gets Better” video to talk to bloggers (me and @geoaubsmom) about her own woes! Selfish bitch!

      Like Andy or hate him, his It Gets Better video was touching and appropriate.

      • SillyMe says:

        Bullying is a serious issue for teens/adults out there right now and what Dina and Jill are doing is making light of a very serious situation. If disagreeing with them or their behavior constitutes to bullying then pretty much almost everyone is bullying another when the fact isn’t so and we take attention away from the ones who are seriously suffering from this crisis. Dina and Jill are like little girls who cry wolf because they can’t differentiate between what’s serious attacks and what’s a matter of an opinion. Urghh I hope Jill does get her own show that no one will watch that way we won’t hear her whine ever again on RHONY! 😀

        • nathania says:

          I think Bravo needs to add a clause to those contracts, any accusation of being “bullied” by cast members will result in immediate dismissal, i.e. the ‘suck it up’ clause.

  47. LynnNChicago says:

    Thanks to everyone who popped over to the other blog and clicked on the ads, if you haven’t already, I really appreciate it 🙂 love you all!


  48. Zoey says:

    Ok I don’t care for the Salahi’s, but I did like Tareq putting Lynda in her place just now! Whether M has MS on not, what is the deal with Mary and Lynda getting so angry about it and demanding how she handle it? Butt out.

    • nancy says:

      Still………these fools cannot answer a question.

      • Zoey says:

        True, but I find the other women just not likable.

        • cusi77 says:

          I would be as well not likeable if I were them! It is frustration… even Andy looks frustrated.

          • Zoey says:

            But why do they have to answer anything to the other housewives? If it’s obvious they lie so much, then why not ignore them?

            One minute they don’t care, then the next minute they demand answers. Then they don’t care!

            Mary just said that the Salahi’s hijacked their show-that’s it! That’s why they’re so mad. They wanted and expected more attention than this from this show, and are jealous that they didn’t get it. Ugly, all of them.

            • AZ Girl says:

              Mary was right. They did hijack the show for their own purpose. To get fame by sneaking in to the Black Caucus Dinner and the White House State dinner. Not only that, they accuse Mary’s daughter of being under investigation of the FBI on FILM. All of them were affected by the Salahi’s behavior and no apologies, no remorse is shown by Salahi’s just excuses. All of which is wrong. They are criminal and delusional.

        • dancekrazy says:

          Did you hear what Lynda said about Tareq’s throwing a glass of wine at her and told her to shut the f. up when they were at a promotion party?
          No wonder Lynda is mad at them, and suspects everything they do and say. I’m surprised Ebong didn’t put Tareq in “sick bay” for doing something like that to Lynda. He really held his temper like the gentleman he is.

          • Zoey says:

            Yeah, I actually missed a part of the wine throwing discussion. Thanks for filling me in more.
            I can see why Cat hates them, although why she cares so much about every little issue they lie about, I don’t get.
            And Mary has a reason to hate them regarding her daughter, but I didn’t realize Lynda had a personal issue.
            I really think Lynda is just blind jealous that she wasn’t the star of the show, but I could be wrong.

  49. cusi77 says:

    Shame, shame, shame…

    Others worth!

  50. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Good gravy….I hate the Salahi’s even more than before. It’s always the fault of someone else and the NEVER answer a question. I have to say that Andy was actually doing follow up questions, surprising, and unless something was specific the Salahi’s would spin it another way. Slime.

  51. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Absolute bollocks- I’m going to watch Snooki and the Situation, more entertaining.

    Although Ebong is presenting very well.

  52. dancekrazy says:

    OMG! It was worse than I thought. Every damn thing is everyone else’s fault or someone else’s lie–It started with the ownership of the house in the audition tape. THAT MUST HAVE BEEN THE FAULT OF THE “RECORDER OF DEEDS” IN THAT COUNTY. Then came the dinner they “hosted” for Paul for which they donated all the wine. THAT MUST HAVE BEEN THE FAULT OF THE EVENT PLANNER OR THE HOTEL, OR FED EX, OR A DELIVERY BOY. Then was the black caucus dinner. OH, NO. NOT ONLY DID JASON AND TED LIE ABOUT THIS CONTEMPORANEOUSLY TO ITS HAPPENING, BUT THE SECRET SERVICE GUY WAS LYING TOO. And then, of course, came the White House debacle. THAT WAS MICHELLE JONES’ FAULT OR HER ASSISTANT. And why didn’t they stay for dinner??? Michaele got sick (I guess thinking about lentil soup). Call me crazy, but I’d have to be taken out of the White House by ambulance if I were invited to a State Dinner!
    All of that was sort of what I expected, but when Lynda told the story about Tareq’s throwing a glass of wine in her face, pushing his wife out of the way in the process, THAT DID IT FOR ME.
    I thought they were just grifters, but he’s a damn kook with violent tendencies. OMG.
    I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.
    Notice how he was sweating and blinking his brains out, also nodding no when he was stating an affirmative fact, or answering “yes”………lots of signs of lying.
    Have these nuts been renewed on BRAVO for season 2? If so, is BRAVO nuts????
    Oh, Lynn, the stuff about Theresa, and Danielle, and Kelly, doesn’t even hold a candle to these wack jobs!
    I can’t wait to read everyone’s comments. I just started typing because I’m in shock!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      baby these 2 take the kookoo to whole ‘nother level. I can’t even look. It’s like watching a train wreck.

      Where on God’s Green Earth does Bravo find these people?

    • nathania says:

      that’s what is interesting to me. Tareq is transparent. He would get nowhere without a pro like Michaele. I think she’s been churched at some point and that’s probably where she learned to approximate having a conscience and value system.

      • justanothermary says:

        “I think she’s been churched at some point and that’s probably where she learned to approximate having a conscience and value system.”

        What do you mean by this?

  53. AZ Girl says:

    One final post. Micheale has been posting on Facebook and Bravo.com about her public appearances for MS. Let us just step back and take a look at her Facebook page which has a link to her appearing for a cause for money. This is personal for me. My mother in law suffered for 40 years with MS. Michaele is now promoting MS causes all over the place without disclosing an “appearance fee” which she is probably being paid. Shame on her. Shame a Tareq. Seriously.

    • nathania says:

      I’m sorry to hear about your mom.

      Any defense the Salahis make of their behavior would sound like peewee herman, “I’m rubber and you’re glue, anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you.”

      I am sure when she has choked the last thin dime out of Ta-wreck, we will be treated to a dramatic tell-all about her abusive relationship and she will be reborn with yet another culturally acceptable excuse for her bad behavior.

  54. Zoey says:

    Just caught the tail end of Project Runway. I love Time Gunn!

  55. Jen says:

    Watching RHOBH and man Camille needs to stop with her crap- the constant dropping of her ex’s name and needing to tell us how rich she is – ugh! It’s pretentious and BS

    first it’s his $ and second throwing it in plps face is not clasy- it’s so irritating . Really dislike her

    • nathania says:

      she’s ridiculous. they have been married over a decade I think, and she’s still at it. I almost gagged when she said “I flew my assistant in first class just for the day to help…” do something, I didn’t even hear the rest. Or maybe it was her decorator. ‘I flew my assistant in/first class/just for the day…’ how many times in one sentence can you scream “I’m rich/I’m rich/I’m rich!”.

      And the part about their New York apartment…that left me scratching my head and if anyone gets it please chime in. Kelsey, two kids, her. That’s four people. But wait, she’s taking ‘staff’. So, somehow, the total now becomes TWELVE. Huh? I guess the four nannies are going. Who would the other four be I wonder. She listed about 5 or 6 places they own homes, yet she has to have these 8 extra people IN the apartment which only has three bedrooms and bathroom, she can’t just put a few of them up in hotels in the area and let them work shifts. That sounds like hell on earth for the ‘help’…I guess she pays them well.

      The more camera time she gets the worse she comes off…it’s almost like in a sense you can understand why Kelsey would cheat. That’s a terrible thing to say but I can’t imagine being trapped around this woman for any length of time. No wonder he left and went to do that play for an entire year.

      • Imseasquared says:

        YES!!! I was trying to do the math myself. And did you notice the introduction of the “house assistant” or secretary or something to that effect??

        For a woman who is supposedly using the show to showcase her independence from her husband, she has yet to have a single scene where she doesn’t mention his name or even worse have to have him phone in on the speaker phone..for those viewers who might not have known who her husband was.

  56. Dawn says:

    I really believe the exposure that the Salahis received as result of this show will cause them to completely vanish from the D.C. social scene.

    I can’t imagine there are too many people willing to risk their status by inviting them to a party or to be seen at any event they might host.

    Where do they go from here? Back to the farm, so to speak, in Virginia? As Stacie pointed out, they don’t even own a house. Can they continue renting a hotel room?

    Whatever fame and notoriety they were hoping to achieve resulted in the opposite effect. They aren’t famous, they are infamous.

    I almost feel sorry for them. Almost. They seem like a footnote to history – the gatecrashers who disappeared shortly after the event and were discovered to have died penniless and living in squalor in an inner city tenement, surrounded by scrapbooks containing clippings of their past exploits.

    • dancekrazy says:

      Know what, Dawn, grifters like this, unless they are in prison, seem to always rebuild. I don’t know how they do it. It probably can’t happen in DC, but who knows about other towns?
      I know one thing….if Corynne (SaLIEhi’s mother) doesn’t have enough ammo now to get them out of the winery, I don’t know what she would need. They have proven themselves to be liars who put our President in grave danger by showing every nut job in this country and others that crashing a WH dinner is possible.

  57. dancekrazy says:

    I think we need to start putting these people into categories, eg:
    Vicki, Jill, Phaedra, Slade, and others need to go into the “I AM A TOTAL NARCISSIST AND AM ALWAYS RIGHT (AND ALWAYS ANNOYING)” slot.
    Kelly, and maybe Kim from Beverly Hills (jury’s out on her): need to go in the “I NEED MEDICATION AND OR HOSPITALIZATION” slot.
    Tareq, Danielle, Ashley (NJ) need to go into the ‘I MAY BE DANGEROUS, BUT I SURE AS HELL AM A LITTLE NUTS” slot.
    Michaele, Alexis, and previously Tamra (OC) need to go into the “I AM/WAS CONTROLLED BY MY HUSBAND, BUT DON’T/DIDN’T KNOW IT” slot.
    Cat, Ramona need to go into the “I CALLS ‘EM HOW I SEES ‘EM AND WILL SAY SO”
    I’m sure I left some out, but this would be a good start LOL
    Oh, forgot an overlap: Jill and Tareq “I AM THE MOST DISLIKED/HATED/NAUSEATING OF THEM ALL”


  58. Olivia says:

    A recap of tonight’s hopefully final episode of the awful DC series:


    It’s easy to hate and detest the two lying Salahi’s but those other three rolling all over one another on the opposite couch are equally detestable. Stacie was the only one to show an ounce of class by remaining respectful in her arguments and she came off a winner.

    The other 4 – horrendous!

    Interesting to note that without the hijinks of the Salahi’s there would have been little else to discuss. Lynda, Cat, and Mary should get down on their knees and thank Michaele for being the ultimate ass that she is. Without them there would have been a full hour of the sound of “crickets” chirping in the background.

    • Noelle says:

      Perfect recap!

      Now only if I could take back watching..that would be brilliant!!

    • nathania says:

      Honestly, I would have loved for them to have shown more about Stacie’s issues with her birth mom and search for her birth father. I hope they will film her trip to Nigeria to meet him.

      I think that and Cat’s problems was well happened post-season.

      I do like Lynda but I think she and Mary could probably be replaced. I would like to see Erika on there as a full time housewife.

  59. klmh says:

    Has anyone else read Teresa Giudice was suspended from high school because she punched another girl in the eye, and that she has also assaulted another person a few years after that?
    I read that in an article somewhere and cant find it.

    • klmh says:

      Man that was a poorly constructed post. Trying to watch and type at the same time doesn’t work for me…

    • Waxdiva says:

      Treetrunk is always ready to rumble…

      “While Teresa and Joe deny all cheating rumors, Teresa, who tells the mag she got suspended in high school for giving a girl a black eye, opened up about an ex-boyfriend who repeatedly cheated on her. “I had an ex-boyfriend who cheated,” recalls Teresa. “I would check his phone, his answering machine.” That relationship ultimately ended after Teresa confronted one of his women in a nightclub, during which things got physical.”

  60. boston02127 says:

    Taylor reminds me of the fake barbie your mother would buy you when she couldn’t afford the real Mattel Barbie. The doll with the hollow legs that would crush and never snap back.

  61. NMhousewife says:

    I am so glad that a question came up regarding Patti’s terrible baby comment about Bethenny. I can’t believe she brought up that nonsense that Jill put out how she basically took in a homelsss Bethenny and gave her food and put her on the show. this is all old stuff that B addressed o nthe reunion show as nonsense, explained Jill offered her room over the summer while B was out working as a chef in the Hamptons, and she has aid over and over thank you to Jill over many things. So ridiculous….

    Also how great was it that Hoda put her 2 cents in and delcared she was on Team Bethenny all the way! ?

    • NMhousewife says:

      I was referring to WWHL by the way..

    • Zoey says:

      Yes, I love that that came up also, and that Patti seemed mortified!

      • Noelle says:

        Not able to watch WWHL…
        Love what I’ve heard.. that Patti looked mortified! Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee ;0) !

        • dancekrazy says:

          WWHL is running again now, and I missed the comment about Bethenny the first time around ((was blogging here). What the hell is wrong with Patti Stanger saying something like that (“I don’t like the way she treated Jill. Jill gave her food and a house…”).
          She doesn’t like the way B. treated Zarin, hmmmmmm. I wonder if she ever watched the shows this past season and saw how Zarin treated Bethenny and Alex and Ramona? How she was even two-faced where Kelly was concerned?
          Patti, I strongly urge you to buy the DVD of the last season, and really listen and watch with an open mind, take the episode where B calls Zarin with LuAnn there.
          I can’t believe that she is so blindly loyal to Zarin, and so anti-Bethenny. Another one for the cuckoo list……..geez it is growing by the minutes.
          Thank Heaven for Hoda who stuck right up for Bethenny.

  62. WindyCityWondering says:

    It’s amazing that the most boring season of housewives had the most amazing reunion! Stacie had them pegged with her definition of salahism. Never apologized or admitted that their actions caused other people harm/hurt! But IMHO, Missy is no victim – when she made Tarq apologize to Lynda for tossing wine in her face – she cracked the whip and he jumped to it!
    They are both a noun and a verb just like the word..F**K!

    • Noelle says:


      “They are both a noun and a verb just like the word..F**K!”…

      You’re my hero!!

    • nathania says:

      I liked DC and I don’t find it boring. On the contrary it is the most interesting RH show I have seen just because for god’s sake they are talking about SOMETHING. On the other hand, I tried to sit through Beverly Hills tonight after I got done with work and that is just my idea of pure torture. Here is a fun fact: Linda Thomson, who had a brief appearance on the show tonight, is 60 FREAKING YEARS OLD. That is just not natural. I think these ladies sleep in hyperbaric chambers and bathe in formaldehyde. It just gets creepier. My mother is 64 and she doesn’t look her age but she doesn’t look like a Vegas stripper having an allergic reaction to a bee sting, either. I have to say, Adrienne Maloof is an interesting person but I think she’d look better *with* the wrinkles she is apparently in a duel to the death with. The other ladies bore the hell out of me. Kim and Kyle…there are some ishoos there, to say the least, and I think Kyle is just as off balance as Kim is. I thought it was disrepectful of her to discuss her issues with Kim with Kim’s daughter, on camera no less. I am suspicious of Kyle, I see a good-child/bad-child dynamic going on there that was probably designated by a parent but has no other basis in reality. But I start channel flipping during this show just like I did when the Manzo moblette monopolized NJ, there isn’t anything to really hold my interest.

      The DC reunion was awesome…it is so interesting watching Michaele, if you ever want to see a sociopath at work, she is a test case. Over and over again she cocked her head to the side, pursed her lips together, and narrowed her eyes; this is her “I’m pretending to listen” posture, but she is doing some weird kind of interpersonal calculus in her reptilian brain, where it’s almost like you can see these complex calculations going on where she’s thinking, ‘what response to this scenario would be the most beneficial for me in the long run’. There is NO human emotion in that woman at all, it’s really chilling. It was interesting to watch the other cast members become flustered and emotional here and there during the arguments, that is what real human beings do. On the contrast Michaele was icy and robotic, she creeps me completely out. Tareq Salahi is an A-class bullsh*tter but he has nothing on Michaele. Michaele is a Major General in the field of sociopathy. It’s interesting to watch the folks on the show that say “she’s changed since I first met her”, like Paul and Lynda…that is a translation of “I can’t accept the fact that she was conning me the whole time too because I of course am smarter than that and can’t conceive that I, as well, was played for a sucker”. I don’t think she’s changed at all. If you found some ‘lower status’ people in DC who knew her when and from whom she didn’t have anything to gain (or rungs to climb up the social ladder through), they would probably describe her the way this group is now. No one wants to admit they’ve been conned, but this behavior doesn’t happen late in life because of a ‘bad relationship’…Tareq is so inept and ridiculous it’s clear she is the true brains behind the operation. You are so right about her being the referee here, this isn’t the first time she has jumped in and shut him up. She knows what the “appropriate” things are to do and say, but she can only approach them through ends vs means calculation and observation, because she is apparently incapable of guilt/shame/etc. That conscienceless is the defining characteristic of a sociopath…the are quick studies when it comes to appropriate behavior, the way someone might be a quick study when learning a foreign language…but it is not their native tongue and never will be. My ex sister in law, who is very similar to Michaele in behavior, once commented to my brother, in earnest that, “you know how people say they feel bad when they do something wrong? When I do something wrong, I never feel bad.” I believe her. It just isn’t there, the guidance of a concience, it is a blank space in the minds of people like Michaele.

      • dancekrazy says:

        You know, it’s funny. Michaele has many sociopathic traits (according to the real definition), but she sure is a little on the dumb side and doesn’t have a good memory where her lies are concerned. She gets “flumoxed” alot. Usually sociopaths have no problem remembering their lies because the lies become their truth. To me, she is an enigma. She definitely seems to have a personality disorder of some type, but God knows what it is. Is there such a thing as a “sociopath’s slave”? It seems as though Tareq is the teacher and she, the student.
        Either way, both of them give me the creeps.
        (P.S. I really enjoyed your assessment of these knuckle heads)

      • Ellabean says:

        Really good post, nathania ! Wow.

      • justanothermary says:

        “she cocked her head to the side, pursed her lips together, and narrowed her eyes; this is her “I’m pretending to listen” posture”

        This is what my lab puppy does right before he chews up my new shoes. Hmmmmm.

      • Zoey says:

        Great summary! I suddenly find Michaele more interesting, ha. A sociopath is more interesting than a dumb blond (that’s coming from a blond here!).

        You would think that in a city like Wash. DC, or in the case of some of these folks-having traveled the world, that these other women would have some experience dealing with people similar to T and M. They can’t be the only wanna-be’s trying to climb the social ladder, yet the women seemed soooo very flustered and shocked. Are they that unique?

        Just a viewer’s observation. I love the psychology of it all more than some of the issues they’re bickering over.

      • Zoey says:

        Linda Thompson…bee sting….lolol! I almost couldn’t look at her, but it was hard to look away. Fuh-reaky!

  63. boston02127 says:

    The Salahi’s are exhausting. I don’t know what makes me more disgusted, them or the fact that they haven’t been convicted yet.

  64. boston02127 says:

    Lynn, I really hate to sound selfish (JZ) but does this mean you’ll be leaving us? We’ll be internet orphans. I’ll cry everyday!!!

    Also, Is the radio show going to be about reality tv or diffrent subjects?

  65. Ione says:

    Wow, those ladies of Beverly Hills are a hot mess! Kim is so needy and resents her sister Kim who tries to help her. I do think Kyle is ok except she seems to like putting her needy sister down. I will watch to see how this sister relationship plays out.

    Taylor is something else, she tried to portray herself as a businesswoman in the 1st episode but tonight indicates she can have her designer clothes because her husband makes the money. BTW, Linda Thompson does not look like she did when she was with Elvis at all. She, like Elvis’s ex-wife, has had so much surgery they are unrecognisable.

    Camille is so full of herself. She seems very hyper. Wonder why? I wonder how relevant she will be once divorced from her husband?

    Adrienne has her husband’s number, understands he is insecure and jealous and seems to accomadate him but I don’t see the situation lasting. I’m wondering if this marriage will survive.

    On WWHL, I finally saw what others had mentioned. A clip of Kathie Lee teasing Andy. Hoda says Kathie has a thing for Andy,,,eeewwwww. What is wrong with that picture?

    Anyway, RHWoBH is what I was hoping to see when I turned into the HW series and I am looking forward to further episodes. WoW, the excess is something!

    • NMhousewife says:

      I thought the same thing when Linda Thompson came on screen, totally unrecognizeable since I last saw her. Her face looks so….awful. I understand maintenance, but these women take it too far.

      • vilzvet says:

        That is Brody Jenner’s mother! Don’t know if any of you ever tuned in to The Hills (I did, don’t know why!)

        • American Idiot says:

          I loved the Hills! My daughter and I watched together all the time. Laguna Beach too.

          So, Linda Thompson was married to Bruce Jenner at some point. Right?

          • Zoey says:

            Right, that’s what I gather. Then she married that wealthy producer guy Foster. I think they recently divorced. Looks like she spent all her settlement money on cheeks!

            • vilzvet says:

              Yes she had two sons I believe with Jenner. Was also Elvis’s last girlfriend? By the way did anyone catch Oprah interviewing Lisa Marie yesterday? Not sure what to make of it. She sure made their marriage out to be a heck of a lot more than I thought it was, a very short term union.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                She wasn’t his ‘last girl friend’- they broke up before he died and he had moved on to another woman. But I think she was his last ‘serious’ girlfriend. She said she was called personally by a young and sweet Lisa Marie and was told that ‘Daddy died’.

  66. Adgirl says:

    DC Reunion: Sick thought.
    I can’t decide whether I never want to see the Salahi’s again or if I want Bravo to give them a weekly show.

  67. lillybee says:

    Hoda may not be the prettiest face on tv but she comes across as a bright and nice person.

  68. Adgirl says:

    Project Runway. Michael was cut at the last moment. He was really really heartbroken. I hate this 4 people make a collection and only 3 show at Fashion Week. It’s just cruel.
    I think PR started doing this when they couldn’t decide whether Rami or Chris should go to FW (the season Christian Sirano won). Now they do it every season.

    • lillybee says:

      Wrechen stuff was very ugly. I really don’t understand why Michael C was cut. His designs were better than both Andy’s and Grechen’s.

      • Zoey says:

        I agree. I thought her stuff was ghastly, rumpled, and very ordinary. The way she describes her pieces, and the way they look, are totally different!
        I loved Micheal’s stuff. And what the heck was Wretchen wearing? I loved the top but it was so short to wear with elf stockings…not flattering.
        I was worried about Micheal. He seems so fragile.

    • error404 says:

      no, it started the year before when they couldn’t decide between Michael, Laura, Uli and Jeff.

  69. JKW says:

    I was very surprised they cut Michael. I thought Gretchen’s clothing were fugly. I know Michael was upset but some of that crying looked kind of fake. There weren’t many tears and all of a sudden he just stopped. I hope Mondo wins.

    • SillyMe says:

      Ohh noo!! I don’t like Gretchen or the clothes she makes! I was hoping she would get eliminated last episode as she so deserved! Nooooo! I hope Mondo wins too! 😀

      • JKW says:

        After all the horrid things she said about Michael C…she starts hugging him and comforting him. I would have given her a shove away. Her clothes were awful and worse than some of them on the regular show…and this was the finale.

    • Imseasquared says:

      Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Gretchen’s third look in the mini collection totally smack of a knock off of the outfit Carrie Bradshaw wore in the fashion show episode of Sex and the City, the one where she wore the tuxedo type jacket with the glitter panties? Seeing as how Heidi Klum was in that episode, I would have thought that she would have remembered the look and called Gretchen out for stealing it.

    • error404 says:

      I was shocked to see the promo saying “this is our toughest PR decision yet!” LOL Seriously? Isn’t it pretty much an open secret that Mondo will win by a mile? Oh well.

      I was a little shocked that they sent Mike C home, just because he should have IMHO gone home many weeks ago, but the judges clearly see something I don’t. I swear that getting picked on was the best thing that ever happened to him! Sympathy votes.

      Anywho, his reaction was disturbing IMO. Either he is grossly immature, or his parents are monsters. Perhaps both. But seeing a grown man, and father no less!, crying uncontrollably because of how his parents might react to his “failure” was just crazy IMHO. Ugly and worrisome.

      Wretchen is enjoyably evil… a bitch, but good tv. She’s actually grown on me over the weeks, and while her stuff is not to my taste, I actually think she does things with a lot more relevance and vision than Mike C’s awful Dynasty rejects. Yet again, we saw the 3 “experts” orgasming over a big sheet wrapped around a model loosely.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        PR was more entertaining this season than recently due to the personalities and “drama.” And also the great team competition meltdown featuring Gretchen’s filibuster in which she talked herself into a 180 degree turn and threw everyone, but especially Michael C “under the bus.” (Immortalized by TLo in a hilarious blog.)

        But the quality of the competition overall IMO was not exactly stellar. Some cracktastic judging for sure. I too was surprised they actually aufed Michael C, given how they had pumped him up over the season. And how awful Gretchen’s 3 looks were IMO. That backflap, really? The Duchess went easy on her. Gretchen had shown that she could turn out some decent modern looking stuff earlier in the competition, but that’s not what she brought to show to the judges. The “only hope” Nina had was an outfit that looked like Gretchen had rummaged in a community theater’s “Cabaret” costume closet and threw a look together from what she grabbed.

        And as we know, just about most of the aufed designers got to show at fashion week as decoys. So Michael C brought a whole lotta drama over “not showing” at Fashion Week. As for Michael’s draping that the judges went crazy over, I was remembering Rami Kashou’s draping and of course there was no comparison at all. At this point the only surpise would be if Mondo didn’t win.

        • error404 says:

          I actually think the talent level plummeted once it went to Lifetime.

          I’m not sure if it’s because the new producers are focusing on TV Personality over Fashion Talent, or if it’s just run it’s natural corse. The talent for this past Top Chef for example was sub-par compared to past seasons.

          You know things are bad when almost a decade later they have a NYC challenge and everyone is still talking about Jay’s Chrysler bldg dress from season 1, and he didn’t even win that challenge!

  70. Adgirl says:

    You’re right. Fugly, dumpy and leftover from Pretty in Pink. And Gretchen wasn’t very nice during the season was she? Shocking her boyfriend moved out while she was away.

    • JKW says:

      She never said but I was wondering if he took her money ? or if she just was broke. She almost made it sound like he took the money and ran. She was awful through the whole show. Her backhanded compliments and constantly putting down there designs.

      • lillybee says:

        She said that she was broke during the season.

        • JKW says:

          Well then at least he didn’t take her money too. I know she said she didn’t have much. The way she said it was that he left and she was broke. I wasn’t sure. Maybe they felt bad for her so she wasn’t eliminated. That’s the only reason I can see that she is going to fashion wk.

  71. Adgirl says:

    Who heard Patti Stanger thrown her ex-fiancee UNDER the BUS during WWHL??

    I have to laugh that Andy decided to let a live caller ask about Patti’s broken engagement.
    Patti first answered saying “they grew apart”. Then she said he refused to go onto her show – however he did agree to be seen on” Tori and Dean” – which apparently enraged Patti. THEN she stated he was jealous of her fame and worst of all he was trying to ride her money train.
    Wow. I guess you sure can pickem Patti.

    • nathania says:

      He was shown on the debate with that Rabbi, which was televised, and one of her talking points in defense of the “marry for money” argument was that she was rich too and she said “I just bought my fiance’ a ten thousand dollar watch”. It was strange. Whatever. I lost respect for her when I heard of her calling Bethenny the c word but I still think the dimwit men she attempts to fix up deserve her spew most of the time so at least she is putting it to good use. They still almost always pick the bimbos, and she still gets paid. I think she’s kind of savvy for finding a way to profit immensely off of men’s innate inability to judge women.

      • JKW says:

        What is really ironic is Stanger matches up these bimbos with millionaires. Basically she hooks them up for money. Tells them what to wear and what do do. So I guess it’s ok if they are there for the money ride…but not her ex.

  72. cusi77 says:

    Lynn I can’t wait to hear your new program! It is so exiting!

    To everybody- let’s not forget to go to the blogspot and hit in the adds to make our Lynn’s fam blog survive.

  73. cusi77 says:

    About Kelsey Grammer from Wikipedia:
    ” In August 1997, Grammer married Camille Donatacci, a former Playboy model. They met on a blind date in 1996.[21] They have a daughter, Mason Olivia (born October 24, 2001), and a son, Jude Gordon (born August 28, 2004), both born to a surrogate mother.[8] Grammer and Donatacci have several homes that have been featured in InStyle magazine and Architectural Digest. Some are: Malibu, California (February 2001, InStyle magazine), Maui (May 2004, InStyle magazine), Hamptons, Long Island, New York (April 2008, InStyle magazine), Bachelor Gulch, Colorado (Architectural Digest), and Bel Air (Architectural Digest). On June 14, 2010, Donatacci and Grammer appeared together at the Tony Awards. Donatacci was unaware that Grammer had already impregnated another woman. It was announced on July 1, 2010 that Donatacci, furious that he did not speak to his two children with her on Father’s Day, had filed for divorce.[22]”

    ” On August 12, 2010, Grammer announced that he was going to be a dad for the fifth time with girlfriend Kayte Walsh.[23] Donatacci only found out through tabloid media reports that his 28-year-old girlfriend was already expecting. On October 9, 2010, Grammer announced that Walsh had miscarried six weeks earlier.[24] “

    • Zoey says:

      Thanks for sharing. Am I the only one that finds that Kelsey and Camille sort of look alike? They have a weird facial thing going on. Maybe that’s what attracted him (his ego) to her.

  74. JKW says:

    Adgirl…I saw that ! Patti looked like a jealous, petty bitch tonight. She had 3 different excuses on why they broke up. Pretty much tells me he dumped her. Didn’t I see somewhere she said she wanted kids and he didn’t ?

  75. JKW says:

    How about when he asked her about Bethany ? I loved that…she really back pedaled fast. No balls…lol …..at least stick to what you said.

    • Adgirl says:

      Patti was really being called out tonight. Haha. And it was great that she had to explain/excuse herself in front of Hoda who is very friendly with Bethenny.

  76. Adgirl says:

    So on the BH intro they have different music (same song, differnt arrangement) and the ladies hold a giant fake diamond instead of an orange, apple, peach … what do they hold on NJ?

  77. JKW says:

    I know I loved it. Hoda seemed surprised that she had said that. I am glad she finally got called on some of things. She pretty much looked like an idiot tonight.

  78. Adgirl says:

    Do you think Patti’s hair is all real?

  79. JKW says:

    Adgirl…I think they hold bankruptcy papers on RHWNJ

  80. JKW says:

    Is anyone watching Boardwalk Empire ?

  81. Noelle says:

    You’re a gem.

    I’ll be in touch.


  82. Tlm says:

    Saw the Bethenny photos and she reminded me so much of me as a kid. The reality is that while almost everyone has photos of themselves on a swing, or in a pool, or with a birthday cake, it proves nothing about having a happy childhood. I smiled in pictures on days my father made miserable with his rages, and even when I had days that were just ok, I still woke up to screaming fights every morning between my parents. Raised by wolves in an insane asylum is a pretty good assessment. The Bethenny pics are a total flashback for me, and just make me sad.

    On a different note, I hope the photos will put to rest comments I keep seeing that B had a nose job. She clearly has the same nose she was born with.

  83. Sha2000 says:

    I think Andy came through last night on the reunion show. He asked the questions that were needed, unfortunately it was like questioning to brick walls.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Correction two.

      Tlm, sorry to hear that about your childhood & you are right pictures do not tell an entire story.

  84. WindyCityWondering says:

    I don’t understand why Andy didn’t allow the other ladies to get answers from the Salahis – or at least use their momentum to make them answer those questions that were purely a yes or no response!
    And what was with Michaele trying to stop discussions and shutting her husband down when he was “trying to explain” – are her circle answers better than his?
    Best part was that Alaska Pipeline going up her forehead when she was trying to be emotional/fake cry – and that primal scream she did to disrupt conversation.

  85. realminkey says:

    Lynn, can’t wait for your recap of last night. It’s sure to be a lollapalooza. Oh yeah.

    BTW, congrats on the radio show! 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Thanks! I feel vindicated in the Salahis not being vindicated (as stated on WWHL) last night! So please take your frigging e mails, excuses and lies and go join a real goat rodeo (since you don’t apparently have a house to live in) or a cirque (Tarq already looks like a clown and surely Missy can pass as Reptile woman). Bravo would be wasting both air time and our time if we are subjected to these liars again!
      PS – Sorry someone told me this is what I had to say…….

  86. boston02127 says:

    Last night on WWHL a viewer asked Patti what happen with her former engagement. Patti had quite a few answers but didn’t say anything about her ex not wanting kids.

  87. Wall St Lady says:


    Steve Lloyd re Mrs. Ape’s children line. (He designed Modanna’s children line).

    “We haven’t gone in full design mode, but it will definitely have her [Teresa] influence,” Steve said of the clothing that will target girls 2-11 years old and sizes 2-16 and hope to be sold in high end department stores as well as boutique and specialty stores. “She will have final approval on everything. All the way through, she’ll be involved.”

    Tooo bad Steve doesn’t know Ape woman hasn’t found a backer.
    U would think the gorilla would know by now ,when she throws the bait out (like DWTS) folks
    SPIT OUT the bait !

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