I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

I Hate Jill Zarin                   Real Housewives of Beverly Hills  Oct 23, 2010

It is very different watching couples on these shows when you already know in advance that it isn’t going to end well.  Watching Camille Grammar gushing about Kelsey and even as the words come out of her mouth, “I’m my own person, I’m not in the shadow of Kelsey Grammar”, you can see that she absolutely is using this man as not only her shadow but her shade, he’s her SPF 50.

Almost every interview that she gives is about him and so either she is trying to ensure that the viewer knows who her famous husband is or she really does live her life around, “The best actor on the planet”.  I’ll bet she’s not calling him that anymore.  In Malibu, where the Grammar’s one of many homes is located, we learn that Camille is working with her husband and his production company on a project for Nickelodeon.  Camille is quick to let us know that it was her suggestion to cast Patricia Arquette for the TV show “Medium”,  a show that the Grammar’s produced. 

I can’t really hate this woman, although all the pieces are there to hate her, knowing that her world is about to fall apart and she has no idea.  Camille informs us that she flew her interior designer in (first class) just for the afternoon so that she could do some shopping for their new home in New York as they’re moving there to be with Kelsey as he stars in a Broadway show.  The more she boasts about everything that they have (homes in Hawaii, New York, Colorado and several in California) the more you pity her because it is obvious that she feels secure in this long time marriage and has no idea she’s about to go back to being just another ex-wife of a celebrity.

It is tough to know if she loves Kelsey Grammar or if she loves the lifestyle that he gave her, she doesn’t talk about him in a loving tone, it is all status and material with this woman so maybe we’ll be  able to hate her going forward, the jury is still out.

Adrienne is having lunch with her husband and telling him about a photo shoot she has scheduled in Las Vegas to showcase their hotel and casino, The Palms.  I can tell you now that Adrienne’s husband Paul is the last person I would ever go into a restaurant with, he is the type of patron that gets his food spat into by the staff.  It isn’t so bad that he can’t seem to just order what the chef prepares right off the menu, make a few changes if you must, but this man is embarrassing his wife by his ridiculous changes and tweaks to his meal.  After all those years of marriage, he doesn’t know that his wife doesn’t like turkey?  I doubt any of this is new to Adrienne but you could see that the entire exchange in the restaurant was uncomfortable for her while sharing it with a Bravo audience.

In addition to the way this man likes to insult the restaurant chef, he decided that his wife’s photo shoot in Las Vegas would be a good mini-getaway for them.  Planning in his head a couple’s massage, a romantic dinner and a movie while Adrienne would much rather bring the kids along.   Paul wins that small battle and Adrienne explains that the kids are in school anyway so it is best to leave them at home.

The photo shoot was described as “edgy” and I could see that, some wild outfits and strange poses with a really hot young male model.  This makes Paul a bit jealous and he decides he is going to attend the shoot making Adrienne uncomfortable yet again.  Paul and Adrienne, in contrast to some other couples are at least close and involved in each other’s lives.  The stereotypical version of Paul would be working his business and paying no attention to his wife.  It is nice to see that he still adores her.

Taylor seems to be our part time housewife as we see her for just a few moments in this episode, but what we see is her personal shopper arriving at her enormous home with designer, one of a kind clothing pieces for Taylor’s perusal.  Taylor informs us once again that her husband Russell pays the bills and so she goes ape-shit crazy and buy’s anything with a designer name.  We’re left viewing a pile of clothing that Taylor has put in the “yes” side at several thousands of dollars on the price tags.  

Taylor is my least favorite at this point but even she doesn’t offend me all that much.  There isn’t really a bad one in the Beverly Hills bunch..yet.

The episode really revolved around a trip to Palm Springs to celebrate Easter.  Kyle and Kim share a home there and both families will be spending their spring vacation at the home and Kyle has invited Lisa and her husband along for the festivities.

Lisa prepares for this visit by ordering a penis shaped 3 foot tall chocolate bunny (for the kids) at the Easter celebration in the Richardson home.  After picking up a pair of chocolate Christian Louboutin shoes she purchased as a gift for a friend, Lisa decides a huge chocolate rabbit is the perfect thing to haul into the desert. 

Bravo’s editing team is just vicious as they have mounted cameras in Kim’s vehicle to catch the excitement of watching her drive her children into the desert.  As we hear Kim’s voice over saying how great it is to spend this quality time in the car with her kids, the editors are determined to contradict everything that she says.  Kim tells us that they talk and laugh and play games in the car, yet we see the kids silently rolling their eyes at their mother and groaning as she whips out the playing cards. 

As Kim and her children arrive at their vacation home in Palm Springs we learn that two of Kim’s older daughters had spent the previous week sunning themselves in this home and Kyle is complaining about the mess that was left.  As the two girls blame each other, Kim defends them by saying that Kyle probably didn’t clean the mess by getting on her hands and knees and scrubbing the floors.  The tension between the sisters is evident as they grocery shop for Easter dinner, Kim and Kyle cannot agree on what type of fat to include in the potatoes, should it be butter or margarine? 

Lisa arrives with her husband and mini-dog creating more tension as Kim can’t seem to handle “outsiders” and quickly criticizes Lisa’s attempts to help prepare the meal and their “poodle” that Lisa’s husband carries around like a baby. 

More tension between sisters Kyle and Kim as we learn that Kim’s daughter wants to spend the summer in Texas with her father, Kim is not on board with this plan and Kyle sees no problem with it.  Kim says she simply wants support from her family but Kyle refuses to support Kim when she doesn’t agree with her point of view.  Things get worse for Kim as she accuses Kyle of butting into her business with her children but Kyle informs Kim that the children drag her into the problems by confiding in her when their mother (Kim) is irrational.  Oops, that can’t be good. 

More problems for the sisters seems eminent in previews for next week and while we’re told in interviews that their relationship survived Bravo’s camera’s, it seems as though it certainly took a big hit during filming.

Lisa’s three foot tall one thousand dollar chocolate Easter bunny was a big hit with the kids and adults alike as they bite and tear off pieces of chocolate and it becomes more and more obscene looking with each passing moment. 

I like this group of women, they certainly are the real deal when it comes to wealthy housewives that Bravo has been trying unsuccessfully to showcase for years.  While we hear of bankruptcy, foreclosures and short sales in the other housewives franchises, these ladies are truly keeping the Southern California economy thriving. 

In other news, rumor has it that Bethenny Frankel will star on “Skating With The Stars” similar to Dancing with the stars, we’re being told that Jill Zarin actually turned down this gig. I cannot imagine why she would do that unless she did not want to be on the show alongside Bethenny.  Could producers be trying to get more buzz for the show by having the feuding housewives on together and Jill didn’t want to feed into that?  Could our little Jill Zarin be growing up?  Na…we still hate her!

Until Next Time….

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516 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

  1. Melinda says:

    I am feeling the same way you are………it is very hard to watch Camille just gush over what is now an ex-husband. It is painful to watch her talking about how wonderful everything is, etc and know that while she was filming those words her marriage was falling apart. I honestly think I probably won’t like her because she is trying way too hard to make it seem as if she is her own woman when everything she has is due to the “greatest actor in the world”. I am sure in her divorce she is trying to get everything she can because truthfully if not for Kelsey what will she do?

    Kyle and Kim are typical sisters……….and certainly typical of child actors who grow up in the competitive world of Hollywood. I think their disagreements are perfectly normal and Kyle made some good points about letting Kim’s oldest spend time in Texas with her other side of the family.

    Taylor needs to be careful…….because honestly, all she has is from her husband and that is a precarious position to be in.

    I like the other two and really the only one I am really not liking is Camille, but only time will tell.

    As for Bethenny on Skating with the Stars…..how FUN!! I bet Jill turned it down because she knows she will fail miserably at this ……remember she fell down on her butt just after bragging how good she is at skating 😉

    • cusi77 says:

      “Kyle and Kim are typical sisters”

      I respectfully disagree in this comment!

      In my book (like Lynn use to say) they have a very toxic relationship.

      I have 4 older sisters and one younger than me… We adore each other! We can have differences and maybe a word or two… but NEVER constantly attacking each other. Mostly supporting each other and now that my parents are gone I thank them for their generosity for having said YES to having 6 daughters. My sisters are the best my parents left me.

      • ShyAsrai says:

        i also have 5 sisters, no brothers. my dad was so proud of his girls – we never heard a single word from him about wishing for a son and he used to cut down anyone who made that sort of insensitive comment. i can still see him pushing his glasses up, pushing himself forward to perch on the edge of his chair, and glaring at the offending individual.

        “Are you mad?” he would inquire scornfully. “Who do you know who is as lucky a man as I? Here are my queen and my daughters!”

        he did tease us that he couldn’t afford 6 weddings but that he could manage 6 tall ladders if we would be so kind as to elope!

      • codystl says:

        I’m sure Kim and Kyle do not constantly attack each other. Remember, they film for like 5 months and we see about .005% of it. Bravo shows the juiciest for ratings.

      • nathania says:

        I agree. I said I wasn’t going to watch it and I watched some of it on and off during work last night…one thing that was disturbing was Kyle texting Kim’s daughter during their argument.

        I really don’t’ care to see any more of this show. It’s obvious Bravo is raking the coals at the bottom of the stake they are about to hang Kim up on, all the while Kyle’s behavior is so outrageous that she needs to be slapped. Disclosure, I’m childless, but I can imagine that if I was trying to set a boundary with my child and my sister intervened, disagreed with me, and then announced she was texting her during the argument (presumably to invalidate my points and disagree with me) I would probably end up driving her to the urgent care to have the cell phone removed from one orifice or the other. Kyle is completely out of line, she needs to BUTT OUT, regardless of whether Kim is right or wrong.

        I suspect this is a bit of jealousy that has never been stamped out because Kim was the more successful child star and Kyle is saying, “Ha! look at me now, I’m hotter, I’m younger, I’m married, and your kids like ME better because I’M a better mother than you are.” And of course Bravo has predetermined who is going to be the villian/wackjob and who is going to be edited/represented as ‘the sane one’ despite that some of us can think for ourselves. I have a similarly toxic relationship with a sister who is a year older than me and really has never forgiven me for being born. I was petite and blond during school whereas she was heavy and had a growth spurt leaving her a foot taller than everyone else for years (as it turns out she is only 5’5″ now). She had a rough time of it in school and seems to believe I had something to do with it. I have had it a lot harder in my adult life whereas she was, until very recently because of the birth of her child with a birth condition which forced her to quit her job, very successful. And she has never really missed an opportunity to lord it over me. She has done some pretty rotten things over the years, there is just no real getting past it for her. I think poor Kim needs to seriously get a backbone and tell Kyle to shut up and stay out of her business when it comes to her children. I really wish Bravo would not include family members on these shows. There is just way too much history and no one can really understand it but the people involved,and even they probably don’t understand it.

    • lol then the guy at the rink yellled at her for taking up the rink cause “pro” were practicing LMAO

  2. MickeyMouth says:

    Good blog, congratulations again on your new radio show 🙂

    I like this group. They are slowly becoming a favorite. Kim and Kyle’s fighting is uncomfortable but it seems natural. Unlike some of the contrived fights and silly spats we’ve seen in housewife past these two have a real family dynamic that isn’t always pretty. No one can fight you or love you like family.

    • dancekrazy says:

      As usual, terrific blog, Lynn.

      I have to agree with you so far. The ladies seem “okay” to me so far. Lisa, Kyle, Taylor, and Adrienne seem to be “normal”. I THINK WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR KIM…….WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER KELLY ON OUR HANDS! (If she says one more time, “I was a child star…..”, I think my stomach will turn). And the deal in the grocery store with the “butter, Parkay…..butter, Parkay” was straight up idiotic.
      Kelsey’s wife (ex-), Camille, keeps telling how she is her own person with her own ideas and talents, yet in the first 15 minutes of the second show, she mentioned “Kelsey’s” name 13 times.
      And I worry about one more thing…..JIGGY. Can JIGGY walk? Seems as if baby takes 4 steps then pees, that’s enough…..back in the arms. The nanny even carries the dog when she can’t. Poor JIGGY. (Probably high cholesterol from Foie Gras also.)

  3. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Lynn, another great blog!

    In another note: Our President B. Obama is in Las Vegas since last night where He stayed at The Caesars Palace… this time.

    Guess where He has stayed in previous visits in this town?

    At The Maloof House in The Spanish Trails!

  4. ShelleyT says:

    Would Bethenny be a skater, a host or a judge? She could be doing the same role as Brooke Burke, where she interviews after the performance. This way she would be on for the whole run of the show and it is certainly easier!

    • Savannah111 says:

      I think she would be great as a skater, I watched it the first season not sure if theres been just the one or more I just saw the one that had Bruce Jenner as a skater. I dont know what role Bethanny will be in on the show, but as far as Jill is concerned anything that would have the public voting Jill would be out in the first round. I bet Jill will be GREEN the entire time, doesnt she love to ice skate and tried to make a big deal of it this past season.

  5. Savannah111 says:

    Great Blog Lynn,
    Yep, it looks like alittle drama is about to start between the sister’s.
    I can’t understand how Camille could have 4 nannys for 2 children I’m starting to wonder if some of these very very rich ladies that marry celebrities just have kids to help keep them in the marriage. She doesn’t have to do anything but be a mother I think it’s absolutely crazy.

    It’s going to be intersting to see what we may start to see with the other wifes.
    Lisa reminds me of Kelly so far she just seems off.

  6. KellitaM says:

    I love this new housewife show! It’s second only to the NY franchise, imho.

    I agree that watching Camille on camera makes me cringe. I don’t care for her type; all the braggadocio about all their houses and staff and lifestyle, and the obvious insecurity she feels about being known as a celebrity’s wife yet loving the perks. But my heart goes out to her as we are in on a secret that is soon to rock her world.

    I’m wondering if Bravo will continue to edit and portray Kim as “the crazy one” or if she is indeed a little off. It looks like that so far. Sibling relationships are so complicated. I did think it was sweet how they share a house and spend Easters together.

    Great blog. I always enjoy your thorough recaps!

  7. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Great blog Lynn. I have to say that I just don’t like Camille. There is something about her that just drives me nuts. The whole lonnnnnng scene of her walking to Kelsey’s office was for what??? To show how huge their compound in Malibu is? Also, not only does Camille have 4 nannies, but a house manager. I cannot imagine the amount of staff they may have. I don’t begrudge someone if they have the money. With Camille it seems almost like she’s showing off. I’m sure Lisa and especially Adrienne have multiple homes yet so far we’ve heard little of that. Camille seems to make a habit of telling us about her fabulous life.

    I like the other ladies. So far Kyle is my favorite. She seems pretty real and she has a happy home life with her husband and children. The scene with Kyle and her husband with the shoes showed, to me, that they can tease and joke with it not being tension filled. I want to see more of Kyle.

    Kim, poor Kim. She seems so lost. If she didn’t have her kids I honestly don’t know how she would function.

    I have to say that I am really liking this installment of the Real Housewives. Curious to see how it all goes.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Scorpiosue1102 –I agree with you about Camille. But the braggers usually fall hardest. It will be fun to watch.

    • nathania says:

      Camille’s walk reminded me of the famous stroll that Pam Ewing (can’t remember the actress’ name right now…Victoria Principal is it I think) takes toward the camera on the opening of “Dallas”. It’s all about the boobs.

      It’s clear that Camille is an empty designer dress. She doesn’t think she deserves what she has (who does deserve it?) and she apparently has almost no self-esteem beyond her looks and her husband’s money. Those are luxury problems, but it’s been years so it’s odd she is this lost even after all this time. Talk about a woman who needs a charity.

  8. Z0mbiemom says:

    I love your blog, and not just because “I Hate Jill Zarin Too.” (I still hate Kookoo Kikilet the most though, that’ll never change!) I wish you luck with the radio show. I hope JZ is shi&&ing her pants over it too.
    I cringe when Kim Richards is onscreen. She’s so AWKWARD it’s painful to watch.
    This woman is a therapist’s dream and I hope she’s already footing the Jag bill for one lucky Beverly Hills shrink. When she finally finds her new home it should have a huge walk-in closet for the skeletons that are so obviously lurking.

    • KellitaM says:

      @Zombiemom “When she finally finds her new home it should have a huge walk-in closet for the skeletons that are so obviously lurking.” Good line! Lol

      • z0mbiemom says:

        thanks!
        Don’t you get the impression that there’s so much going on behind those petrified eyes? She strikes me as someone who repeatedly gets into abusive relationships too. No confidence.

        • KellitaM says:

          Yes- the poor thing. In Kyle’s blog this week, she said that Kim has made bad choices when it’s come to men.

  9. emt2 says:

    Great blog and congratulations!

    I may be alone but I kinda like Camille. When she said in the first episode that she saved Kelsey’s life and was the powerhouse behind him, I agreed to an extent. Kelsey was/is a notorious cocaine addict and alcoholic and is no angel. Lots of violence, mafia-stuff, affairs with underage girls, etc. She kept his head on straight as best as she could, I think.

    My fiance’s mother is like Camille in that she was married to a very wealthy, high-profile man and she supported him a lot. Now they are divorced, she went through the same thing that Camille is kinda going through—the constant need to say that she doesn’t live in his shadow, the insecurity, the insistence that she made him, etc.

    Obviously Kelsey and my fiance’s father have there achieved what they have because of their talent and hard work but there is always a woman behind a successful man.

    And Camille’s work with their production company is significant. She was the one behind the hit show Girlfriends.

    I don’t hate Camille. I kind of feel sorry for her. But not really. lol

    • boston02127 says:

      I feel sorry for Camille only for the fact that her husband cheated on her. Other than that I find her hard to like.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I don’t like how Camille acts as if he is a success because of her. I hate to tell her but Kelsey was on Cheers from 1984 to 1993 and Frasier from 1993-2004. I’m guessing he was making plenty of money and was a success before he married her in 1997.

      • quincyil says:

        So money can’t buy love.

        These BH women are not as happy as I am. I had a great time buying groceries at Walmart and getting a new pump for the top of my pool cover. The clerks were nice and so were the people collecting for Ansar. I don’t need designer clothes and I don’t want those painful designer shoes. JC Penny white walking shoes make my feet happy campers.

  10. Bosandi says:

    I didn’t expect to like or even watch the BH housewives, but surprisingly I like the show. This is going to sound crazy but they seem authentic. These are people who are wealthy and have been wealthy for quite some time. There’s a certain ease about them with their money – unlike NJ and Atlanta even NY to some extent (Jill I’m talking to you).

    So far my least favorite is Taylor then Camille. Taylor’s face makes my face hurt. Too much plastic surgery but I excuse the lady who owns the Palm’s (can’t remember her name) for some reason. I guess b/c she seems comfortable in her own skin.

    Poor Camille. Ever heard the phrase “when you have to tell someone who you are, you ain’t?” Camille girl, you ain’t.

    Lastly, Kim and Kyle. I like Kyle the best. Lots of people are saying she looks like Demi Moore. I agree but she reminds me of Linda Carter in her Wonder Woman days. Sidenote: I always wanted to be Wonder Woman! Kim is the designated crazy for now. Maybe that’ll change as we learn more about her.

    Lyn congrats on the radio show!!! You deserve it!!

  11. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Great idea, spreading out the blogs over the weekend Lynn! A topic a day will make us all stay! LOL

    BH- It IS sad to watch Camille gushing over Kelsey, meanwhile he was already gearing up for a new relationship. So wrong. As much as she made herself seem an important part of their production company, I hope, like Ivana Trump, she kept every note and video where Kelsey thanked/credited her for making the production company a success. That will be important come divorce/divvying time. Men seem to FORGET, how helpful the ex-wife was when money and ownership comes into play.

    Adrienne’s husband is still very taken with her. I guess the old adage of having one’s own interests will keep a man’s attention. He seems to want to be included in her business in Vegas. He must find that to be glamorous compared to his daily grind of making folks beautiful. While Adrienne is proud of her husband, she also is proud of her ventures, separate from her husband. Like her alot.

    Taylor spending money, just for the heck of it. Who really needs a personal shopper for a pair of white shorts at $395? Really? I can imagine, much like all of us here, she buys to use, on impulse and to feel good. And like most of us, will leave it in the closet with tags on until we chuck it to the Goodwill/charity.

    Lisa, like her too. I hope she’s lying about the sex and that’s just part of her dry Brit humor. She’s a lovely woman, and behaves like a lady. But they say that the one’s who deny the most are usually having the most. LOL

    Kyle and Kim are a mess. These two have some life-long messed up competition, that now continues with their children. Kim wants Kyle to back her, Kyle wont back her because she disagrees. It seems they are both trying to be friends with the kids instead of parents/aunts. Kyle wants to be the cool aunt/confidante, therefore undermining the mom. Kim wants to be her kids friends so they’ll want to stay with her. I can see these kids playing both of these women to get what they want. Kyle and Kim BOTH need an enema, cause they are full of it!

    • vilzvet says:

      Right not I’m going with Adrienne and Lisa as my favorites. I also feel that Camille is NOT just a housewife as she showed in this eppy that she DOES work in production for their company. The sisters will be the ones to bring the drama. But let’s face it, the drama will certainly(hopefully) NOT be as what was so damn ugly on NJ and NY this year!

    • I agree about Adrianne cause on Dr.90210 they made it seem like she was in the shadow of her husband in other words a gold digger. Matter in fact they had a fun raiser at their house & she was asking a psychic if they would ever have kids so I was surprised to learn that she had older kids..

      • vilzvet says:

        Older kids? I finally got around to reading their Bravo bios and it says Adrienne (at 49?!) has 3 sons, one is 7 and twins that are 4?

  12. emt2 says:

    Adrienne is really unfortunate looking.

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned her awful hair. Those clip-ins and those gold strings she wears in her hair are just too “My Little Pony.”

  13. Adgirl says:

    The sisters are just stressful to watch. Kim seems to have emotional problems or is medicated or both.
    Kyle seem to be on her last nerve. Even if I promised my mother on her deathbed to “watch over” my troubled older sister I would not spend so much time with her, nor be involved so deeply with her family.

    Speaking of which – Kim’s kids are all adults except the youngest one. Kim trying to decide whether her 20 yr old daughter is allowed to go visit her father in Texas over the summer is just … weird.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Agreed. I thought the same thing. Whitney is an adult and she can make her own decisions. It’s kind of distressing to see that Kim does not want her to go to Texas because of how she feels instead of what is best for her daughter.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I agree about the daughter needing permission. Seems like alot of emotional blackmail is going on.

    • emt2 says:

      I feel sorry for Kim. I don’t feel comfortable commenting on her because girlfriend is just having major issues.

      I like Kyle but I suspect that it is only because Kim is so insufferable. Kyle seems like a nasty woman when she wants to be. I think she is a very jealous type of woman and kind of like a mean-girl. I remember seeing her interviews a few years ago when Paris Hilton was all over the place. I saw Paris’s same egotism, narcissism and entitlement in Kyle.

      She is just coming across way better than Kim because that is her storyline.

    • Exactly.. So why isnt Kathy Hilton helping out?

      • Waxdiva says:

        Kathy, Kyle and Kim are step sisters. Their mother had Kathy, divorced, married Ken Richards, then had Kim and Kyle. Wonder if they are really as close to Kathy as they are to each other?

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          wait- so doesn’t that mean half sisters? Same mom different dads? different mom and different dad is step sisters-right?

          • KellitaM says:

            Yes, that would make them half-sisters. And I think they all resemble each other. They must look like their mom.

  14. emt2 says:

    Omigod. Linda Thompson and Taylor are so scary looking. I can’t really even look at them for too long. Honestly.

    Taylor and Linda spoke about how fortunate they are because they grew up poor and Taylor said that her daughter can’t fathom not having any food. Linda said “Take them to Africa.” I was like,”Why don’t they just go into their own kitchens?” Those women look a little hungry to me. Especially Taylor. She looks like she needs to eat (and keep down) a full meal.

    • Adgirl says:

      Word. She is the perfect Lollipop.
      One of those actresses with a giant head on a stick figure body – like Calista Flockhart.

      • z0mbiemom says:

        or Guiliana Rancic. She reminds me of a Bratz doll or a bobblehead!

        • emt2 says:

          I go to the same gym that she does in Chicago and she is DISGUSTING! I feel bad for her because she just will always be ugly. She needs to stop working out.

          • Savannah111 says:

            There’s really no need for her work out she hardly has a frame to develop any kind of muscle at all. If she would start eating and gain a body her head may not look so large and strange.

            I’m surprised that one of those windy Chicago days doesn’t and hasn’t already blown her all around the city by now.

        • Savannah111 says:

          Zombiemom,
          I so agree with you about Guiliana Rancic she is scary to look at, her head looks so big compared to her entire person it looks like it doesnt belong on her body very strange. I have to say watching Bill on the apprentice I was surprised alittle that he would be attracted to her. Don’t get me wrong even though I’m commenting on her appearance and probably shouldnt be I can’t help it. It seems harsh I know because I’m sure she’s a very sweet lovely person it just looks like she goes days without eating anything..

          • ShyAsrai says:

            one of my sons went to a club one night where Jennifer Love Hewitt happened to drop in. (many dozens of moons ago)

            he was all excited but then was horrified upon seeing her. she apparently looked like a starvation victim; he said you couldn’t even say she had any meat on her bones – it was just skin laying on top of bones. he said “i’ve seen people skinny where you could see their ribs, but this was disgusting.. the skin was concave in between each rib.”

            he said you could see every bump and uneveness of the bones themselves!

            this from a guy who prefers very slender women. (i was glad to know he had a standard against, as he put it, ridiculously skinny).

            i was upset for JLH when that mocking publicity all happened about her bottom. i thought back to when she’d been so much younger and too sickly thin, and now had a normal woman’s body – probably still smaller than normal, but not shaped like a tween-aged boy – with a normal woman’s behind.

            i think women who are too thin are just as driven by low self-esteem as any extremely heavy woman. (sweeping generalization acknowledged, of course)

            we women need to really get off the self-hate.

            i watched Jamie Lee Curtis on that new show “The Talk” the other day. she talked about how important it was for women to stop complaining about their own bodies, most especially in front of their daughters/kids.

            • Kat says:

              I agree completely. Most women are too hard on themselves (and often other women -jmo).

              • quincyil says:

                Some of the most beautiful women have major flaws. It’s just something about them radiates warmth.

                Some picture perfect women are dark inside. You want to run in the other direction when you catch a glimse of them.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Every time I see Linda Thompson I think of David Foster. First he runs over Ben Vereen and then he marries her… they’re divorced, but he’s had a bit of bad luck…poor David.

  15. Adgirl says:

    I like Adrienne’s husband. Maybe because I’m a picky eater too! Considering the lifestyle they have he is remarkably normal and warm. She seems a little uptight, but he loves her so maybe she’s just not use to the Bravo cameras scrutinizing her.

    Lisa I love. That was really nice of her to request the chocolate bunny be decorated in a fashion that would appeal to the little children. Why $1000 for a hollow bunny??
    I thought the sisters were really rude to Lisa and her husband. Obviously, they were unprepared to make dinner for them and were inimidated because Lisa owns reataurants and nightclubs. Kyle should have ordered take out if she didn’t have time to cook.
    Did you notice we didn’t see any of them eating dinner?

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I like her husband too! He seems really fun and funny. If she’d lighten up and join in they could have a ball. I hope she does instead of finding him annoying. THAT is annoying. Didn’t the waitress laugh with him? And why not have a romantic week-end away without the kids? Who wouldn’t like that? I’m hoping she’s just acting this way at the beginning so as to portray herself as independent. I like her the most of all the women so I hope this marriage stays intact!

    • I like Lisa too, she is a Brit, didnt come off as mean as Cat did but at the same time she is very thoughtful (the kids at Easter) She rocks..

  16. Adgirl says:

    Camilla is insecure so she is boastful. I thinnk she wasn;t expecting Kelsey to be absent while she was on RHBH and now she has to “be busy” for the cameras doing things by herself.

    Taylor – I’m dying to pull your huge upper lip over the top of your head. Ugh.
    And your friend Linda Thompson. Ugh Ugh!

    Cheek implants should be illegal!! Gross.

    • KellitaM says:

      I was looking at some of the pics on the Bravo website of Taylor. She was a lot prettier before she had all that work done. She barely looks like the same person, imo.

  17. LynnNChicago says:

    http://lynnnchicago.blogspot.com/

    New Blog – Watch What Happens Live with @hodakotb and @pattistanger joining @bravoandy

    (don’t forget to click on the ads please!) thank you!!!

  18. Olivia says:

    I would fly out to wherever they film that skating show just for the chance to watch Jill Zarin “kiss the ice” once again. If I had to go bankrupt in the process to be there, it would be worth every penny.

  19. kbinldo says:

    I don’t think things between Kim & Kyle were as bad as they seem, since Kyle was the one who tweeted Andy during WWHL to change the question (who would you rather have as a sister). I do think Kim hovers too much over her kids. She acts as though her 19 year old is not an adult & that she (Kim) is the one to give her permission to go to Houston. Sorry, Kim, you don’t get to keep your kids all to yourself.

    Camille, please. You’re where you are because of your husband, not because of anything you did on your own. Did you see the “drop dead now” look she gave the writer when he told her that Nickelodeon turned down her “idea” of a show because it was “too adult?” (an idea, mind you, based on the relationship of her daughter & her NANNY) Made me wonder what was “too adult” about that. What about a show focusing on her relationship with her own kids? sheesh. She’s the opposite of Kim–Kim is too “hands on;” Camille has no hands on her kids’ lives at all.

  20. Wall St Lady says:

    Barf
    I am in a cab & Kelly no belly
    Comes on the cab TV flogging
    Bing. She flogs the suddenly fans recognize her & jump into her arms.
    Next time I will turn it off.

    • American Idiot says:

      WSL – You asked me a question last night, but i couldn’t answer you because I have had NO internet service for the last 12 hrs. I have a temporary fix now; anyway, I answered you on the previous blog.

      My cablevision “triple play” fades in and out all day long. No phone, internet or TV for hrs, then back on, then off, then on. So frustrating. Just needed to vent.

      Have to do college apps with my son online tomorrow so I really need this fixed.

      • quincyil says:

        The library has computers if you have too much trouble. It’s a good environment for him to think about his answers too.

  21. AZ Girl says:

    Well I did not think I would be watching HWOBH and last night I did. Husband is out of town and son was working so I could watch all the crappy shows I wanted :).
    Camille is just sad. Not only because we know that her marriage is on its last leg but she seems to not be happy in general. All the “stuff” in the world is not going to make you happy if you are alone. She doesn’t even spend time raising her children.

    Kyle and Kim are sisters who have different personalities but they do enjoy their kids and spend time with their families even with their differences. Kim definitely has issues and is quite needy which I am sure a huge burden on Kyle.

    I like Adrienne and her husband. He still wants to spend time alone with her. She should realize how special that is. Very rare when there are two separate careers in a household. That chair he was sitting in while she was packing was ugly.

    Love Lisa. Like her husband. The dog I could drop kick into an end zone.

    Taylor has had too much work on her face and she looks like a cartoon. Her husband does not seem to be really “in” to her.

    • quincyil says:

      I watched the show. What’s up with the lack of self esteem in many of these women. They spend money, but that’s not what life is all about. Even when I was putting myself through college and had to buy food over a dress for a first date with my now husband, I never doubted myself or needed assurance from a television audience that I was my own person. I find it sad that they are trying so hard to stay young when we all should enjoy our age.

      I have some advise for all women going through divorce. Dump that house, furniture and pool on your husband. Downsize because a new roof on that mansion is going to take one year’s alimony. I know of so many women who get the big house in the divorce and can’t afford to maintain it. Let the new girlfriend deal with that leaky sink.

      I watched “Thintervension” but I’m so tired after working 14 hour days for a week on my son’s condo that I have to rest body and soul. I will have it on Mon. in time to rev up the audience for the finale. I see that our cast have six weeks to make goal and I know that some can lose 20 lbs in that time. Jeana Keough can make it and so can Mandy.

      Lynn, congrats on the radio show. I have never listened to the radio on the computer, but I am going to listen to you.

      • AZ Girl says:

        Welcome Back QuincyIll.!!!! Everyone missed you. All week it is like “Where is Quincy?” We all had remind the posters that you were working hard on painting your son’s condo. A lot has transpired but the good news is that the blog is back to normal.
        Just so you know I hung Halloween decorations outside last weekend and it was 90 degrees. This week it finally cooled down into the 70’s. HA!

      • AZ Girl says:

        One more piece of info, Jason Turner posted a blog last week and it was great! You need to check it out. New catch phrase is now
        “Face Cry” is describing Michaele fake crying episodes. Hilarious.

        • quincyil says:

          I love Jason. I hope he reads this blogs and tweets. Maybe, Rick Amons will tell Jason. I like the men more than the women. What does that say about me? LOL.

          I watched the second part of the DC reunion while cooking today. I think they women and Andy did a great job at discrediting the Salahis.

          I bet that Michaele is having issues with her husband and the “to death do we part” is looking a little iffy.

          Is there any information about the Salahis and what they are up to now? I haven’t looked to see if she twitters, but her facebook was so positive, I thought the main job of her assistant might be to creat facebook ids and write to Michaele’s page. LOL.

          I read an interview of Michaele’s mom and she seemed like a nice woman. She confirmed her daughter’s condition. This must be heartbreaking for her to see her daughter on TV with all of these lies.

          How could the Salahis every get out of debt or litigation? It’s the same situation for Danielle Staub. How do they survive all of this?

          Honestly, I went through the Ipass line on a Tollway because my gps kept yelling at me to keep left and felt terrible because I missed paying one dollar. I bet the Salahis skip paying tolls every day.

          • AZ Girl says:

            From what I have gathered they are making money on appearance fees. Latest gig is a grand opening of a bowling alley (I kid you not). They have been promoting appearance fees for cruise lines also. I think they are basically desperate at this point. DC will have nothing with them. Bridges are being burned as we post.

            • quincyil says:

              I can’t imagine why Playboy is showing photos of Kelly and possibly Michaele. In it’s day, Playboy showed young beauties with naturally large breasts.

              I went to the Playboy Club in Chicago and Lake Geneva many times. My uncle worked for Wakinhut Private Detective Agency as a manager. They monitored the bartenders, bunnies, and bathroom attendants to make sure no one broke any of the strick rules. I was underage going in with an older man and we were to find out if the bunnies or bartender would serve me without carding. My uncle would tell me to put on more makeup before going to the clubs and restaurants in Chicago for the investigations and tell me to take off makeup when I was going on a real date.
              My favorite part of the job was looking in each stall of the bathroom to make sure it was clean and there was tp. Then, I would spy on the room attendant to make sure all tips went into the kitty. We looked for signs of drug usage too, but I never saw that.

              When I had my 21st birthday, I got fired and my sisters and first cousins got that job. I think it’s age descrimination.

  22. boston02127 says:

    Jill started her very own I love Jill blog. I’ll bet $ it’s her.

    http://freelyvivacious.blogspot.com/

    • Need a Hobby says:

      “Gingerettes.” Aren’t those Ginger’s little “gifts” that she leaves on JZ’s apt carpets and floors?

    • Ellabean says:

      Isn’t this that same teenage Australian girl that made the adoration of Jill video.
      Matilda or something like that ?

    • lillybee says:

      Looks like it was written by a 12 year old.

    • No that is that girl from Austrialla it just finished showing there, that is the girl that stalked me to try to get me to like Jill you can see her pics on the blog on left side.

    • Waxdiva says:

      So, we are all to believe that a 17-yr-old girl living in Australia is awestruck by JZ? So much so that she produced a site devoted to JZ, a second-rate NYC housewife who appears on a reality show? In addition to schoolwork, this 17-yr-old has the time and interest to maintain a website and send hundreds of tweets about her ‘idol,’ JZ? Seriously? How stoo-pid does JZ think people are? Jill Zarin, we all know it’s you…

    • butterisafruit says:

      HAHA, Jill removed our comments. I’m so shocked …snicker.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Snort! “Susan Saunders” left a post.

        • quincyil says:

          You have to be kidding. Susan Saunders. rotfl

          • Fizzyz says:

            Not kidding! Had to see for myself. Esperanto? She must be learning Salahism. If I had any compassion for the self obsessed JZ, I might feel sorry for her. Hmmm, don’t; pathetic example of womanhood. A complete embarrassment.

            • Need a Hobby says:

              It’s not JZ, it’s a parody of her sockpuppet posting style where she shills her stuff. “young nubile youths?” “Esperanto?” LOL

              I’m pretty sure she knows by now that her critics are on to her “susan saunders” at Amazon gig, especially after she admitted the susan saunders Amazon account was hers.

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      I was going to leave a comment but I decided not to because I didn’t want them to accuse me of being a “bully”. If you disagree with Jill or criticize her, Team Jill accuses you of being a bully. Also, I have to remember that Team Jill might trace my IP Address and report me to the “proper authorities” and my employer. LOL

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Agreed. It very may well be just a kid (I’m giving benefit of the doubt here) and it wouldn’t be cool to pick on her. And even if it really isn’t just a kid, the foghorn brigade would still go bonkers citing it as yet another example of “cyberbullying.”

        Indeed, that site may be a set up just for that purpose. Anyway, I’d advise prudence.

  23. boston02127 says:

    Slade has reportedly had his vasectomy reversed.

    http://absurdtosublime.net/

  24. Zoe says:

    Did anyone else find it ironic when Camille said that they usually fly private but lately been flying commercial, you know, going green. Anyways I believe Kelsey got his new young flight attendant girlfriend pregnant! sadly, she lost it. A busy bitter Camille said well that’s karma!

    • Adgirl says:

      No one ever said which airline she worked for. I wondered if it was a private plane and that’s how they got to know each other so well.

  25. That Kim (Kyle’s sister) irritates the hell out of me, she should go buy her self a self esteem. Them poor kids, when Mom isnt happy w/ her self or something she brings that family DOwn. I guess some of them are to good to blog on bravo too.

  26. Adgirl says:

    Juicy Salahi info.
    As you may know I have a personal interest in them because of an experience with people I know who are also financial sociopaths.
    I don’t know if anyone reading today’s blog cares but I have been reading a ton of stuff about the Salahi’s. It all tied in to the link below which Waxdiva posted a few days ago.
    ………
    First, I should mention that Micheale has been playing the MS card for years. In fact that’s why she is so “passionate about the charity Journey for a Cure”!
    1. Tareq & Michaele own %100 America’s Polo Cup
    2. Tareq & Michaele control %100 a charity called Journey for a Cure
    3. America’s Polo Cup would hold fundraisers for Journey for a Cure
    4. None of the vendors would get paid for supplies for the fundraiser
    5. Journey for a Cure is not registered properly with authorities and little if any monies were dispersed to any charity.
    So it’s pretty obvious the Salahi’s were living off the fundraiser proceeds.
    ………
    While running Oasis Winery, Salahi stiffed countless small business people and even screwed over many bridal parties!
    “At least three couples who held their weddings at the Salahi family’s Oasis vineyard sued, saying large, unexplained charges showed up on their wedding bills.
    “It was devastating at the time,” said Marybeth Wootton, who said she ended up paying $20,000 in legal fees on top of a $55,000 wedding. She said her 2006 wedding turned out to be a $600-a-person event — three times as much as expected. She was billed for so much wine that every guest — including the children — would have had to drink two bottles each, she said.
    Just before Wootton’s wedding, her credit card company put a hold on her account because of “suspicious billing” from Oasis, according to court documents. But as Wootton was leaving for her rehearsal dinner, an attorney for the Salahis called and threatened to cancel the wedding if she did not allow the charges to go through, according to the lawsuit filed in Fauquier County General District Court. Later, the Salahis offered to settle the $25,000 suit. Wootton said she received $5,000 with a promise to pay the rest. She never got more, she said. “
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/22/AR2009122203520.html?sid=ST2009122203901
    There are a bunch of articles and links. In short these people are waaaaaay scummier than what we’ve seen. And there was newspaper coverage about them going back years- so Bravo should have known better than to showcase them on RHDC.

    http://www.novamediawatch.com/2009/12/salahisinmaryland.html

    And there is a factitious Facebook page called Tell the White House Party Crashers to Go Away. Many entries are made by the Salahi dog Rio. Comments are interesting.

    • Waxdiva says:

      AdGirl: Once you start reading about how outlandishly bold they are you just can’t stop. Despite their outward appearances, they are just plain old grifters. Now that you’ve caught on to them, do you think that McHale really has MS? If you haven’t already, check out the Salamis history with Miss A… she has some good stuff about the Salamis, too.

      Dontcha love it that their ‘America’s Polo Cup’ declared backruptcy, but they immediately started another ‘Polo Cup’ with all proceeds going to charity (their pockets). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/01/AR2009120104654.html

      IMO, the Salamis should get together with Randy and Evi Quaid… now that would be a show! The latest with the wacky Quaids: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/10/randy-and-evi-quaid-remain-canada-pending-bond-and-promise-appear

      If you dig deeper about Treetruck Joo-dice, you’ll see that she’s not what she tries to be either. Geez, I really hate these people!

      • Adgirl says:

        I can’t believe these people!
        Well I can. We had a business dealing with a woman and she ended up owing us a lot of money for product and services. Her ex-husband and then she separately sued us for millions of dollars. She claimed that we forged 8 contracts and even the notarized ABC license was forged. Cost a fortune in legal fees and ruined our business. My husband is extremely bitter. The similarities are astounding – well known people in the community, wine business, lawsuits, stiffed vendors and customers, threats, reporting us to various agencies (Homeland Security – for real) threatening letters, lie after lie.
        Our lawyer said there isn’t much you can do when people are willing to lie.
        I’m relieved it’s over. It makes my husband feel better to hear about the Salahi’s – we’re not the only people to get taken.

      • Adgirl says:

        The Juicy’s are like this too??

    • boston02127 says:

      I’m shocked they are not in jail.

      • Adgirl says:

        I surely don’t believe Michaele has MS. She has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder).
        I love how they keep changing when she was diagnosed – 17 years ago, or sometimes they say it was when she was a child. WTF?

      • Adgirl says:

        Too bad they got rid of debtors prisons a long time ago.

        When you are dealing with people like this there isn;t much you can do – they own nothing. They are fearless because you can’t take anything from them. There is always another mark around the corner.

        • quincyil says:

          Not paying a debt is stealing. I wonder if the Salahis can be arrested for taking money from a charity?

          I read a long time ago that Tareq had something to do with Palestinian Liberation. He doesn’t seem to collect for them, but he was on some board.

    • butterisafruit says:

      Excellent work AdGirl. These people are crooks, plain and simple. Any thing they do or say I do not believe. They made themselves suspect we didn’t. She may or may not have MS, and I personally feel as though she doesn’t. My sister has it and she’s furious with this woman.
      Back on point, atty generals in each state spend most of their time chasing down so called charities, protecting the public from these con men. I feel some day we’ll read that some poor angry victim took revenge on them.

    • dancekrazy says:

      Adgirl,
      Are you kidding me? Can’t the IRS do anything about this? I thought any charity has to apply for a 501 (c) status (tax exempt). I wonder why this was not brought up on the Reunion when the question of the MS came up.
      If they are eating into the charity’s profits, “everybody’s going to jail”—Levinworth, in particular.
      The SaLIEhi’s are just plain shameless in every respect, and I’m sure they’d find a way to explain this also.

  27. Adgirl says:

    How come Bravo didn’t know about all of this?? The newspaper stories about their sleazy dealings and the lawsuits go back years.

    • quincyil says:

      Bravo got duped. Did you see that mansion she filmed in pretending it was her own home? Andy showed us the video of her pretending.

      I know some people like this too. When I was in high school I worked as a dishwasher and part time waitress, cleaned our gas station and baby sat at night on weekends. I save the money to go with my high school chorus to Germany. When it came time to get our passports, my mom wept and told me that I needed all of the money that I had earned for college and she could not sign for me to go with all of the other kids. One girl’s parents owed my father 1000 for fuel oil and gas for his car, but he sent her to Germany and never paid my father what he owed him. I learned by watching her joy that you can fool yourself into thinking that you are better than someone else by cheating and stealing, but it won’t make you a better person. I went to class every day while they were all gone and played the grand piano on the stage of the auditorium. The principal and a bunch of teachers came to listen and they really enjoyed it. I felt really good about the experience and still do today. I did need that money later. My mom was right about saving to pay my bills.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        happy you’re back-missed you!

      • Adgirl says:

        Amazing the balls of that man – he didn’t pay his fule bill to your family so you stayed home and his daughter went to Germany.

        Our grifter Salahi-likes were similar. She drove a Mercedes and had her nails done all of the time. At court (over a lawsuit) the samll business owner that was stiffed mentioned her nails. She giggled and said she had to keep up appearances.

        • quincyil says:

          It’s been so long, but I remember that man and his wife very well. They did a lot of stage work at a community theater.

          I remember that it was very cold one winter and even though they owed my dad money, he told mom that he couldn’t let them freeze with five children in the house. The wife had called crying for help.

          Yeah…. Some people take advantage of others on this planet, but I am proud of my parents. My dad actually saved three people’s lives in his life through brave acts.
          Once was his pilot when testing a small plane in the Navy off the coast of Rhode Island. The plane failed and they jumped, but the pilot was injured and my dad, the athlete, took the unconscious man to the show in choppy waters. Another was a small boy who fell out of a row boat in the Fox River in Northern IL. Someone came to the gas station asking for help. My dad zoomed up there in his truck, and dove into the cold water. The boy had gone under and gotten caught on the branch of a log. My dad was under water so long, my uncle thought he was dead too, but he got the boy and did cpr. Because of the cold water and my father, the boy lived. The last was a kid who was in the street in Waukegan when a large truck was coming. Dad ran, grabbed the boy and barely made it out of the way.

          My daughter also save a baby in a carriage when the grandmother let go on a hill in Providence. I guess we are a family of quick thinkers and even quicker movers. LOL.

          • Adgirl says:

            You must be proud of your family. They all sound so nice too.

          • Zoey says:

            How awesome. I hope those people went on to lead good lives. Thanks for sharing!

            • quincyil says:

              The boy from the river is a father. He lives in the same subdivision as one of my sisters. The others… I don’t know.

              My dad started the first volunteer ambulance in Illinois. There were a lot of accidents on 173 and after the death of five teens who hit a tree, my father rallied the community to change the road and make sure help would come quickly.

              He was a hero, not rich, but a hero.

              • Zoey says:

                Wow. In times when I’m almost ready to give up in believing in people it’s so good to know that good people really do still exist, and everyone is not ‘in it’ for themselves. Thanks again.

              • Kat says:

                I love that the boy is a father.
                Selflessness is a type of courage we hope to have when others need.

  28. RileyKitty says:

    Hey Everyone! Still enjoying this show so far. I still hate Jill Zarin!!

    I miss you all & wish I had more time to get on here. I got myself a job!! We also had a family tragedy a few weeks ago that we are still reeling from: my hubby’s cousin’s 4 year old son choked to death. Makes you remember that life is fragile.

  29. Adgirl says:

    Can’t someone start a show that is merge of Hoarders + Cheaters and call it FRAUDS?
    The first half will be the public and televised version of these fabulous reality celebs being all amazing and living the life.
    The second half – the reveal!- will be contrasting film, interviews & court documents etc from a private detective showing what they are in real life. Frauds.

    I’m dying to see where the Salahi’s really sleep. In a cardboard box? Their car?
    Does Michaele keep a sweatshop who makes her designer knock offs?

    What about Slade running around surfing and getting un-vasectomied while he never pays child support or sees his dying son.

    Let’s see where Juicy goes to work everyday.

    Oh, and the Curtins are apparently on the lam. They missed their big court date for fraud or something.

    I swear half of Andy’s bravo-lebrities will be outed.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I think Andy needs a show called the Real Outlaws of BRAVO!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        It would be interesting to hear Bravo’s explanation for how they have so many criminally leaning ‘stars’ – no way they didn’t know about the Salahis as there has been tons of stuff out there prior to the WH crashing. You would think they would want financially stable individuals – are they going to film the Guidices in court, getting booted out of the mcmansion, in jail?

    • Zoey says:

      That’s a great idea! Just like that cheesy show ‘Cheaters’, where the guy has the camera crew and follows the unsuspecting losers in a nondescript van.

  30. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston, I need to talk shop with you. I know from your posts we share a career in skincare in common. I maintain my cosmetology license but haven’t taken any esthetician continuing education classes in years. Now here’s my question: what kind of peel would you recommend I try?

    I am fair skinned African American
    I have combination/oily skin
    I have psoriasis
    I have some hyperpigmentaion due to infrequent breakouts and sun damage from riding with my Cabrio’s top down 🙂
    I have NO wrinkles.

    All of my research leads me to treatments for wrinkles. I don’t have any and neither does my 62yr old mother. Looking for smooth, even skintone. I’ve been using Arcona Raspberry peel (fruit acid peel) but would like to kick it up a notch. Not interested in retail/over the counter kits. Would like to order professional grade product and your informed opinion would be great. Plus since we ARE engaged, you’d want me to look my best in the wedding album 😀

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      AFAM skin can be tricky with a peel because it can lead to some photosensitivity which ***can*** cause hyperpigmentation.

      What about micros?

      If your heart is set on a peel try a glyco or lactic acid peel.

      Do you have psoriasis on the face or body?

      Demalogica is a good product.

      WaxDiva? any other suggestions?

  31. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    I wonder if this was caught on film. This is an interesting tweet:

    karakeough @TamraBarney to hear you threw a drink in @jeanakeough’s face makes me sick- she called me in tears- can’t believe I considered you a friend

    • Adgirl says:

      Why would Tamra do that? Jeana is low key.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        I don’t know. But from a recent online article I read (somewhere, I forget where) it appears Jeana is now friendly with Simon (and his new girl friend) and is taking his side in the divorce.

        In the article Jeana defended Simon and just about came out and all but said that Tamra is manufacturing claims of abuse just to get custody of the kids.

        I imagine she and Tamra are not on best of terms now.

      • quincyil says:

        Tamra is a truck driver with tits.

      • emt2 says:

        Jeana gave a quote that said Tamara is claiming domestic abuse as a means for getting more money and child support out of Simon. She says that Tamara is actually violent, not Simon. She says that Simon’s new girlfriend is low-key, younger, beautiful, self-sufficent and Simon is happy.

        I think she went on a double date with Simon and his new girl.

        I’m sure Tamara is angry that Jeana is on Team Simon.

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        Now it’s Shane’s turn to tell off Tamra.

        ShaneKeough @Tamrabarney you are low class trash. How dare you threaten my mother when you are wrong to begin with.If you want privacy then leave OC.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          WOW I missed that Tweet thanks for sharing. (I unfollowed Shane b/c he’s a self centered jerk) but wow, he’s defending his mom, that’s nice to see actually.

          Tamra and Jeana had it out at the last reunion too.
          Wonder who’s side Vicki’s going to take?

          • Adgirl says:

            I am not a fan of Tamra’s at all – but Jeana needs to mind her own business. As if she has the best judgment of character or intent. Didn’t she just beg the court for leniency in Matt’s jail sentence – she told the judge that she didn’t know he had started drinking again. Huh?

            And Tamra is her usual slutty trashy self throwing drinks. Klassy.

          • quincyil says:

            Jeana really gives a pass to horrible behavior by men. She really has a few bolts missing.

            My mouse is acting up tonight. I guess it’s playing games with me.

  32. LynnNChicago says:

    @RichAmons: @LynnNChicago LoSiento-I didn’t know of the BadBloggingBlood between the two til I saw Lynn’s blog today!#donotinvitetosameparty

    Tweet from Rich Amons (Mary’s husband) from Real Housewives of DC, in response to a tweet about Patti Stanger 🙂 lol

    • Ellabean says:

      Whoa ! Lynn !

      The Real Husbands are following – YOU!

    • quincyil says:

      Of course, Rich Amons reads the thoughts of Lynn Hudson. LOL

      You are the nemisis of Jill Zarin. She goes to all of the housewives and bitches about Lynn and friends. Jill personally raised us to her level of Bravo stars. Of course, we are in the sewer with Jill, but we have gas masks and she is stuck with the fumes.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Your kind of like a defacto Bravolebrity. 🙂 I liked Rich on RHODC especially after he confronted Tariq.

  33. Wall St Lady says:

    I saw an article that could explain why the Gorillia’s home hasn’t yet been foreclosed. (Had Enoughs research shows it never received a stay of foreclosure)

    Foreclosures Jam the Court System – WSJ.com

    http://topics.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052702303339504575566633217456218.html

    “The shoddy foreclosure procedures, and the subsequent suspensions, have also frozen cases in court. The moratorium “means these cases will be sitting there in la la land,” says 85-year-old Senior Judge Robert M. Deehl, another retired judge.” WSJ

  34. Adgirl says:

    I’m so disgusted with Slade. Don’t you think he’s having his vasectomy reversed just so he and Gretchen can have a storyline and possible a spin off?
    That’s a disgusting reason to have a child.

    He’s like Octomom.

    • Katie says:

      Yuck. I hope they do not reproduce.

      Below is a link to a picture of Gretchen before housewives fame. Quite amusing.

      http://thedirty.com/2009/03/the_real_gretchen_rossi_before_the_golddigging_/

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        wow!
        So I guess all the makeup artists are wrong. Not everyone CAN wear red lipstick.

        • Katie says:

          Come on fess up did she go to your clinic? (here is a chance to tripple your business)

        • TrueLifeDiva says:

          I’ve never felt “everyone” can wear red lipstick. Matter of fact I hated it when other make up artist automatically put it on me when I had blond hair. Too easy, kinda like the “training wheels” comment by Neo. Use your imagination and sense of color. Sometimes the perfect shade of red is fuschia 😉

      • Adgirl says:

        hee hee. I hope she knows that her baby won’t arrive already improved by plastic surgery. I wonder if Slades had work too.

      • Zoey says:

        I remember seeing this last year. Did you see the ones of her on the toilet, some lying in bed just about nude, etc, etc? I’d say she’s got the white trash thing down pat but with better hair.

        • Katie says:

          Yes unfortunately I saw those as well. Needless to say I was not surprised at the whorish content. There is one website that has multiple picture(of the non nudey type) that show her with her alleged stalker at Christmas with her parents! She is another pathological bravolebrity.

          • Katie says:

            This pic is my favorite b/c they are all sooo vain, and even her Chihuahuas wouldn’t hump her back then.

            She doesn’t look obese in her arms. It makes me think she had alot of work done on her face.

    • quincyil says:

      We’ll see. I have known several men who didn’t have kids even though there was a reversal. One guy, a nephrologist had the surgery twice and still failed and he had father three kids with the first wife and the second wife was young with two young sons. So.. Slade still has to prove his ability…. He has failed at so many things, we might have to add this to his list.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Hey! Welcome back Quincy, we missed you!!!

        • quincyil says:

          I love words and I’ve been thinking about your radio show.

          I like the word “debunk” when it comes to a discussion of the Bravo reality shows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunker
          A debunker is an individual who discredits and contradicts claims as being false, exaggerated or pretentious.[1] The term is closely associated with skeptical investigation of topics such as U.F.O.s, claimed paranormal phenomena, cryptids, conspiracy theories, alternative medicine, religion, or pseudoscientific research. ( I always wonder if Arche Bunker got his name from the 1932 novel, “Bunk.”)

          Isn’t this what we do here? Debunk the false realities of Andy Cohen’s creations?

          I also like the synonym of debunk, “uncloak.” It reminds me of the Emperor has no clothes. All of these women have expensive wardrobes, but they are really allowing themselve to be naked to the viewers.

          I am trying to think of pithy statements that you can have.

          NYC apple
          OC orange
          Atlanta peach

          Still trying to find something but this one makes me laugh. Chicagua, the smelly onion patch Chicagua is the Native American term that later became Chicago.

          Lynn of the smelly onion patch… kind of has a ring to it…

          Verb 1. debunk – expose while ridiculing; especially of pretentious or false claims and ideas; “The physicist debunked the psychic’s claims”
          expose
          blackguard, guy, jest at, laugh at, make fun, poke fun, ridicule, roast, rib – subject to laughter or ridicule; “The satirists ridiculed the plans for a new opera house”; “The students poked fun at the inexperienced teacher”; “His former students roasted the professor at his 60th birthday”
          uncloak, unmask – reveal the true nature of; “The journal article unmasked the corrupt politician”

          “Uncloak” is a cool word. It reminds me of the Emperor has no clothes and that really descibes the fashion world of Jill Zarin.

          Lynn you are an excellent satirist and Jill Zarin and her army of fans can’t understand that because ….let’s face it… they aren’t the brightest light bulbs on Times Square.

      • Katie says:

        I will be crossing my fingers he can’t. 🙂

  35. LynnNChicago says:

    First radio show will be available tomorrow (Sunday) morning 🙂 Can’t wait to hear it myself LOL When it is ready, it will be available to hear on this site and shortly thereafter on ITunes…

    http://www.winningbeautypageants.com/

    I won’t have computer access tomorrow am (son’s football game) so keep checking. Carly says it is great, I hope you all like it.

  36. Zoey says:

    On the wikipedia page about Tarmac there are many links to other crap about them, and this is one to their wedding announcement. He looks, gulp, slightly better. He’s aging quickly!
    The wiki page said (unless I’m getting my articles confused) they EACH had 28 attendants! How ridonculous is that? Also had some 46 chefs, and on and on with the fabulousity of it all. Barf!

    http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/archives/02mar/weddings.htm

    It must be a DC thing, I”ve never read wedding announcements like all of these….different.

    • Adgirl says:

      It’s true, 50 attendents .. and Judge Kennedy of the Supreme Court spoke too.

      • Zoey says:

        I cannot even fathom who they think they are, or who they’re trying to emulate. As we used to say, too weird for words.

    • Kokuanani says:

      I love this item in the wedding write-up:

      She supports many charities including JDF, Make-A-Wish,Breast Cancer Awareness, United Way & additional others.

  37. boston02127 says:

    QuincyIL—How was your week? You were missed.

      • quincyil says:

        The realtor gave the condo an excellent condition. It’s like working hard before finals. LOL. A different realtor told us that the area was moving well and we saw lots of people looking at open houses last Sun. afternoon so we are hopeful that it will sell quickly.

        My son has a new condo in St. Paul, Mn. It’s on the 29th floor with a view of St. Paul and Minneapolis. It has a connection to the sky way so you can go for miles inside in winter to visit movie theaters, restaurants and malls. Minnesota has figured out how to deal with winter. It’s really a great place to live.

  38. Katie says:

    Hey amia009 your avatar looks like a pumpkin.

  39. Wall St Lady says:

    American Idiot I saw ur note to me last night :). But I didn’t see ur answer to my ? ; did u buy the book ?
    Comments here have given me the impression that the author of Circus da Salami ,is not a fan of Tarmak & Messy. The Salami’s r so interested in press attention & so delusional that they flog the book anyway. It has been said they get no $$ from the book.
    Can u enlighten me ?

  40. Adgirl says:

    Quincy – the opening for BH the ladies are holding a giant diamond. And their music is different, a fancier version of the RH theme music.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Lynn could do a radio show on the high class BH compared to low class NJ. What a difference!

  41. Wall St Lady says:

    Sha2000 WoW thanks for the exciting tour ! I watched it on WSM’s ipad. He enjoyed it too

  42. Katie says:

    Here is the link with more photos of Gretchen with the “stalker” :

    http://www.whatsleftofmyhead.com/category/reality-bytes/jay-photoglou-gretchen-rossi/page/4/

  43. Zoey says:

    Does anyone know how much the housewives of DC are paid? And if the husbands/boyfriends are or not would be interesting.

    • Noelle says:

      Don’t know, but I would have to believe they’re the lowest paid of the franchise. (First season and low ratings….Bravo’s been known to keep their belt tight.. regardless..)

      Heard Scum, ..um Slade was paid and did it on the dl through Gretcho’s paycheck from Bravo so his pristine wages wouldn’t be garnished. (to provide for his terminally ill son.) It’s been well publicized on what a low life Scum..oops..Loser Slade actually is.

      • Zoey says:

        I read that too, so I’ve lost any respect for her.

        • Noelle says:

          She’s a real tool! He’s beyond despicable!

          Hope her and Scum live a long and happy life together, alone..underwater, in dark, surviving on algae..together..forever!!

  44. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Tamra’s latest tweet:

    TamraBarney: think twice jeana keough when you try to throw me in a pool cuz you talk smack. MIND YOUR OWN BUISNESS!

  45. Adgirl says:

    I’m going to be sick. I just learned that David (the crazy guy w/5 kids) and cute Poppy on this seaon of Apprentice are dating.

  46. LynnNChicago says:

    @LynnNChicago TO @gretchenrossi Did you witness Tamra throwing a drink on Jeana???

    @GretchenRossi TO @LynnNChicago Yes! Pretty uncalled for if u ask me

    • Kat says:

      Nice of Gretchen to share. Thanks Lynn.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Tamra is awful! Is this what the OC has to look forward to now that she is free of Simon? Get thee to a nunnery! Make haste.

        • Kat says:

          I believe I did throw a drink back in the day. (Me and my German Irish temper.)
          I don’t care for Jeana or Tamra, but this could be fun to watch.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Hi Amber, off topic…I don’t know if you saw my response yesterday but the balloon glow is in your town! Here’s my post moved over from yesterday:

          “Amber we are neighbors, I’m in WC. Here’s the glow for this year:

          http://www.gohollies.com/Balloon.html

          Right across the street from Target. Maybe I’ll see you there!”

    • Noelle says:

      Tamara’s lacking self-control, common sense and boundaries.
      I can so see this happening.

    • TrueLifeDiva says:

      Are those the DM’s you were referring to on Twitter? I got some DM’s from Gretchen too asking how I found out so fast. 😀

      • Noelle says:

        hmmm..axe to grind perhaps..

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Yes, well, mine are public, Gretchen’s are DM’s

        • LynnNChicago says:

          @Real_Housewives: Update #RHOOC Tamra vs Jeana: http://bit.ly/dfuLVh

          @GretchenRossi: to @karakeough is your mom ok? I texted her but didn’t hear back
          5 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter
          @GretchenRossi: to @Real_Housewives: For real? Wow! This is going to get ugly!

          • Need a Hobby says:

            I saw that Gretchen retweeted @Real_Housewives link.

            What’s this, Tamra’s claiming Jeana tried to throw her into a pool? Before or after the wine toss? Text & emails from Jeana? A Cease & Desist Letter from Tamra’s attorney? Wowsa.

            I thought the OC gals were the boring ones. I just might have to watch next season if there are going to be OC housewife throwdowns.

            • TrueLifeDiva says:

              A cease and desist letter is SO lame! Really? And now she wants to publish e-mails and texts? Way to keep it Klassy, Tamra.

      • TrueLifeDiva says:

        We are having a full on conversation! This is almost as exciting as when Ice T tried to get me to sleep with him or when Tupac stepped on my foot. She’s my new BFF. (I know, not really)

        • Kat says:

          Thats really kinda cool. Good for you.

          • Noelle says:

            I don’t twatter, twitter or tweet! It’s a fun read when I’m able to dechipher! grr

            Having sleepover with my youngest..waiting for all to GO TO SLEEP…lol

            • Noelle says:

              *decipher*

            • Kat says:

              I don’t tweet either. I just don’t have anything interesting to say. I can’t believe I post here most days. lol

              • Noelle says:

                Me too!

                I’m a huge yawn. 😀

              • TrueLifeDiva says:

                I don’t have anything interesting to say either, yet I still run my mouth ;-). LOL! But seriously, I just follow the celebs I like. It’s cool to see the personal pics they post and sometimes they answer fans questions directly. Some people take it too seriously. I look at it like a modern day fan club and everyone can be the fan club president.

              • Kat says:

                @TrueLifeDiva Maybe I’ll sign up for an account. I’ve thought about it but was too lazy to do the follow through. But… I can think of a few to follow so that’s a plus.

              • quincyil says:

                Not true. I find my beloved Kat fascinating.

            • TrueLifeDiva says:

              Good luck with that! I know when I was a kid, a sleep over meant t.v. and gossiping until the sun came up 😉

              • Noelle says:

                4 kids over, and two moms asked to have them in bed by 11pm, “don’t want them tired” on Sunday! I’ll do my best!! obviously I’m out of the loop!

              • Noelle says:

                It’s 3am and my hubby’s taken refuge in the spare bedroom! I don’t blame him. (He has to work tomorrow.)

                Who would think five 7 yr. olds would be such partiers!?!..I jest 😉

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                wait a minute. ICE-T? Before or after CoCo?
                I used to have a lil crush on him, but now that he’s older and acting I really don’t like him at all.

  47. Kokuanani says:

    Does anyone know what happened to the Koo-koo Curtins? I heard they weren’t going to be back to RHOC, and that they were “on the lam.”

    More?

    • Adgirl says:

      They missed their court appearance in Riverside Cty a few months ago. I haven’t heard anything else. I’m curious too.
      Their daughters recently had their pictures up online – they were topless except Hello Kitty pasties.

    • Noelle says:

      Wasn’t there a bench warrant issued (recently) for their arrest for missing a court date?

      • Adgirl says:

        earlier this year there was a bench warrent but I think that was cleared up.
        .
        I found this!! FIFTH EVICTION:
        DNP Random ThingsFilm MagicLooks like someone has fallen on hard times. RadarOnline.com has exclusively uncovered court documents that show Lynne and Frank Curtin from Real Housewives of Orange County are getting evicted from the house they currently

        Excerpt found on http://www.radaronline.com
        RadarOnline.com has exclusively uncovered court documents that show Lynne and Frank Curtin from Real Housewives of Orange County are getting evicted from the house they currently live in.

        Shockingly, this makes it the third time an unlawful detainer has been filed against the brunette beauty – in the past 9 months!

        In the court papers the owner of the house filed an unlawful detainer against Lynne and Frank in October 2009 alleging they failed to pay the balance on their security deposit and failed to make their monthly rental payment of $2595.

        A judgment was entered against the couple in late October, the owner was entitled to take possession of the house and the Curtins were ordered to pay $3215.00 for back rent and fees.

        According to the court papers the Orange County Sheriff’s Department served the Curtins a 5-day notice to vacate the premises on November 2, 2009.

        They have a $1.2 million dollar judgment against them in neighboring Riverside County, and court records show that since 2000, Lynne and husband Frank, have had 5 unlawful detainers filed against them.

        http://buzzer.cc/google-buzz/exclusive-real-housewives-of-orange-countys-lynne-curtin-getting.html

        • Noelle says:

          @adgirl-
          The warrant I’m referring to was recent…as within the last 2 weeks. The Curtin’s didn’t show up for a court date (their MO, so it seems) and a bench warrant was issued. I wish I could remember where I’ve read it…will post link if I find the piece.
          These two are down right grifters..you’d think Bravo would do a better job of screening candidates!!

          • quincyil says:

            If Bravo has shown us Curtin, Salahi, and Guidice, how many more of these deadbeats are out there harming business people? We all pay for their lifestyles.

            I believe that there should be a limit to the grifting and criminal laws with imprisonment need to be enforced. Yes, I believe that we need to create debtors’ prisons all over the USA. What they are doing is theft on a grand scale.

            I thought Danielle Staub use of the charity to get such an expensive birthday party was contrived and outrageous. Jill Zarin’s party for Creeky Bones had all of the vendors donating and they barely were able to sell the tickets to break even. This is just an excuse to throw parties. How many deductions from taxes are being taken by vendors so that these women can have designer dresses and play hostesses?

            I have seen people sue doctors when they were injured in one car drunk driving accidents. If you can’t blame the other driver, blame the doctor because he couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together perfectly. I believe these people are criminals too.

            Our civil courts are a mess and States and the Federal Government officials need to fix this. Yes, most leaders are lawyers and some have earned fees with these lawsuits, but the lawyer in the comments section to the Washington Post articles on the Salahis tried to help vendors and protect citizens. Let these lawyers work to protect all of us from the grifters.

        • Zoey says:

          1. ‘the brunette beauty’? Snark, snark.

          2. RENTAL $2595? Geez.

  48. lillybee says:

    According to Tweet Maxine Jeanna and Donn are having an affair. But since we all know how truthful Tweet Maxine is, I am not sure I believe this.

  49. Noelle says:

    tweet maxine is a bona fide nut job.

    i’m convinced she likes to see her name in print and that’s her sorry claim to fame.

    ????….answer – Ignore…don’t feed a troll!

  50. Massage says:

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  51. LynnNChicago says:

    A few people have sent emails asking about Watch What Happens Live…I’ve posted that blog here:

    http://lynnnchicago.blogspot.com/

    Thanks everyone! :)xo

  52. Zipit Zarin says:

    Wrote this on the other blog:

    YES! FINALLY someone being held accountable for their bad behavior! Couldn’t happen to a more deserving PITA. Hey, Stanger, talking real fast and making chit up didn’t help you one bit. LOL Loved when she was describing NY women she was describing herself! HA Oh, and as IF she wasn’t sure about the price of the ring she bought herself. Having her and Hoda side by side was beauty too. Compare and contrast: Good/Evil.

  53. Waxdiva says:

    For the Salami Haters Club (I’ve made myself President….objections???)… everyone is wondering why the Salamis have yet to be held accountable for crashing the White House. The Salamis have been long-time supporters of and contributors to Obama, going back to when he was a Senator from Chicago. There have been several articles describing the Salami/Obama relationship. So, perhaps the WH ‘advisors’ view this situation as closed, as they suspended several Secret Service agents and fired the WH Social Secretary who decided to attend the dinner and not replace herself as the final person in charge of checking the guests before entering the media room. IMO, the WH is playing the waiting game… if there is continued flack about the crashing, then they will proceed; otherwise, it’s just going to sink to the bottom and go away.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17310

    Also, below is an article describing Tarmac’s ties to Rashid Khalidi, a pro-Palestinian professor who excuses terrorism and has been a close associate to President Obama:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=117478

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      WOW. It all makes sense now. Nov. 2nd can’t get here fast enough!

    • Sha2000 says:

      Double & triple checked & it was debunked :

      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/mar/14/tennessee-republican-party/group-not-controversial/

      As for the SaLIEhi’s being idiots, no one can dispute that!

      • Sha2000 says:

        Alex’s take:
        http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20436385,00.html

        • Olivia says:

          Really, Alex? The Salahi’s offended you? What about Teresa and her flights into delusion? Not a problem for you? Or how about the latest flap from the OC women that Tamra threw a drink in Jeana’s face? Okay with that? Or maybe an upcoming episode of the BH crowd featuring one woman apparently going for another woman in the back of a limo passess inspection? How about the vulgar language these shows seem to wallow in? The “c” word, for me at least, would have required that Teresa’s butt be fired from this show.

          DUI’s, fraud, bankruptcy, marital breakdowns on camera, dysfunctional kids, visits with the plastic surgeon, excessive boozing, hair pulling, chases through a country club, “in your face” screaming, spells “class act” to you, but singling out that one franchise to vent your spleen against makes me wonder where you draw the line.

          It seems contained within all of these “Housewives” series there is enough disgust to go around. I just wonder why you, who seems to have a modicum of intelligence when weighed against most of the others, would choose to remain a part of this sexist treatment of women that Bravo wallows in.

          Seems to me that if your name is attached to these affronts then you more or less “champion” what Bravo promotes.

      • Waxdiva says:

        The debunking article that you posted is moot. The link I posted was re Tarmac’s ties, not Obamas, which is the basis for the link you posted.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Hi WaxDiva,
          It’s not moot. You posted a link that try’s to connect the POTUS of having a questionable tie; I responded with the fact that it was proven *untrue* by a News-source that was awarded with a Pulitzer prize for fact checking in reporting. Not moot at all, on topic and simply a correction that apparently you were unaware of. I am sure if you knew it was not true, you would not have posted it. I’m not questioning anything RE: the Salahi’s, who would?

      • Ellabean says:

        Thx Sha.

    • Phoney Reality says:

      You are using World Net Daily as a valid news source? The Salahi’s are the scum of the earth but so is that rag.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Respectfully, Whats the difference if Huffpo say’s it? A Pulitzer winner for reporting accuracy-Politifact say’s the rumor is untrue.

          • Waxdiva says:

            First, PhoneReality was questioning the source, so I provided one that she might like better. As for the point being moot, it is moot. Whether a media outlet is awarded a Pulitzer Prize is also moot. You are going around in circles and basically arguing with yourself. I’m leaving this particular area now as I’m done with this discussion.

            • Sha2000 says:

              WaxDivia I’m not arguing with anyone, you are.

              I was politely pointing out that you were incorrect as it was proven so by a credible source. & BTW, just because you claim something is true because “you do your own fact checking” or “moot” over & over, does not make it so.

              Yes, on to the next subject, I’ve made my point.

  54. Wall St Lady says:

    Along w/Quincy, I find my beloved Kat fascinating too

  55. Wall St Lady says:

    Zipit Zarin on October 24, 2010 at 8:47 am
    Who r u talking about ?
    PITA. Hey, Stranger, talking real fast and making chit up didn’t help you one bit.

  56. Wall St Lady says:

    Z it Z
    Who is the PIA ?

  57. Obsessed with RH says:

    Not sure if this has been posted upthread but Taylor’s husband has filed for bankruptcy. Apparently it was back in 2005. Wonder how they’re able to spend the way they do now?

    http://www.realitytea.com/2010/10/18/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-husband-filed-bankruptcy/

  58. Wall St Lady says:

    Noelle
    I am so happy u r back ! PTL !
    I wanted to write as soon as I saw ur feisty post last night but I fell asleep w/my glasses
    & BB on my chest. WSM fixes me for bed often.
    Please don’t leave for so long again !I prayed for U. How is ur mom & sister ?
    I love slumber parties w/my nieces in NC (7,8 & 10). Their mom had an 8lb boy recently. She is 5’11”. She gained 10lbs ! So she makes Bethany seem “fat”. Like B EVERY BODY talks.
    I don’t like babies. I like children when they can tend to their own potty needs !
    I am going down South to meet the baby this weekend. I am so excited to get to play w/the girls. I direct plays. I have an idea about a family who gets a new baby(hummm guess why. Aren’t I a genius ?)
    Back to U !
    Soooooo happy u r back !

  59. cusi77 says:

    WSL_ Thank you for the beautiful words you wrote about Lynn successful and loving community and all the great wishes to our Lynn in her Radio show! You are adorable!

  60. Wall St Lady says:

    Had Enough (who BTW has still Had Enough)
    corrected my interpration of the legal info on the Ape mc mansion she explaine to me a couple of days ago. She gave me permission to post her email to me ;

    It wasn’t a motion for a stay that was granted. It was a motion to LIFT the automatic stay. That means that the creditor asked the bankruptcy court to allow them to proceed with an action to collect a debt. In this case, it would be a foreclosure action. It is possible that a foreclosure action has in fact been filed. The NJ court system makes it very difficult to get online access to records. You have to register and pay a $500 fee. I can’t even find an option to research filings (i.e., just see if a case has been filed) rather than actually seeing a copy of the filing.Someone on the blog just mentioned that there are “several hearings on 10/25.” Actually, there is one hearing scheduled for 10/25. For some reason, it is shown twice on the docket report, but it is only one hearing on one motion:Hearing Rescheduled from 10/18/2010. (related document: 88 Motion for Relief from Stay re: 1576 Maple Avenue, Hillside, NJ 07205. Fee Amount $ 150. Filed by Russell L. Low on behalf of DOMINION MANAGEMENT COMPANY. 92 Certification in Opposition to Lifting of Automatic Stay filed by Trustee John Sywilok, 104 Document filed by Creditor Dominion Management Company) Hearing scheduled for 10/25/2010 at 10:00 AM at MS – Courtroom 3A, Newark. (mcp) (Entered: 10/18/2010)As I mentioned before, I think this is the pizza place address.

  61. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Hi@quincy!
    you posted upthread about Tareq and the PLO.

    I found this: http://www.kabobfest.com/2009/11/tarek-salahi-coolest-arab-of-the-moment.html

    He sits on the board of The American Task Force for Palestine:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/01/tareq-salahi-bio-was-on-a_n_375745.html

    “Taleq Salahi is on the board of the American Task Force on Palestine, a DC non-profit lobbying group advocating a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But since the state dinner incident, his bio has disappeared from the group’s website.”

    From http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=5087

    ***DISCLAIMER*** NOT MY VIEWS***

    “So here we go – again. Those attention hungry Salahi’s – that harmless little couple, gatecrashing, all for a reality TV show – have ties to Rashid Khalidi, a pro-Palestinian professor who makes excuses for terrorism…Columbia University Professor Rashid Khalidi, chronically critical of Israel, has made many statements, over the years, supportive of Palestinian terrorism.

    He has even reportedly worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

    Apparently, Tareq Salahi who is a Palestinian national, served on the board of the American Task Force for Palestine (ATFP) which is a pro-Palestine lobby group that demands the “right of return” for all Palestinian refugees and their descendants – a strategy long considered the backdoor to the destruction of Israel. Coincidentally, Khalidi served as it’s vice president alongside of the America-bashing president, Ziad Asali, during the same time period Salahi was on the board of directors.

    Interestingly, it seems that both Salahi’s and Khalidi’s names have been scrubbed from the ATFP website, although you can still find Salahi’s bio through a Google cache search of the site.

    Now, I wonder why that is?

    Well, maybe it’s because Obama has known this couple both socially and politically since 2005 when he was a senator in Illinois – it always seems to go back to Chicago, doesn’t it? With a word, Obama could take the heat off the Secret Service and cop to the fact that his Chicago people let these two nuts into the WH without proper clearances. But no.

    And does the information that the White House gatecrashers’ Michaele Salahi and Tareq Salahi having ties to a terrorist sympathizer Rashid Khalidi shock me? Or that Obama has actually known these two bimbos for 5 years? Nope. Not in the Age of Obama.”

  62. Wall St Lady says:

    Oh zip it Stanger read stranger to my dyslexia !
    I call her Fatty Stinker

  63. housewifeaddict says:

    Dear Bravo Housewife,

    I feel that I am exceptionally qualified to be your assistant. Some of my skills are:
    * Tying shoes with small holes
    * Holding open out house doors
    * Cleaning up dog poop
    * Getting your husband on the phone because you don’t seem to know how to dial a phone
    * Listening to you with a plastic smile on my face, and nodding once in a while
    * Telling you what is better on baked potatoes, butter or margarine
    * Deleting nasty comments off your facebook

    Respectfully, me.

  64. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    I was reading some of the articles linked above about the Salahi’s and came across this little tid-bit that I found very interesting.
    “The reception at Oasis was elegant, Backus recalls. But guests did have to submit to one pesky indignity. “All wedding guests will be required to show original Invitation card, Car Pass & legal Photo Identification upon arrival to the ceremony and/or the Oasis Winery,” warned the wedding Web site. “Thank you for your understanding.”

    Apparently they DO know how high security invitations work–so how could they possibly believe they were invited to the White House in any capacity. What, your wedding was a higher security than our Nation’s Capitol? Give me a damn break!

  65. ilovelynn says:

    hey lynn, the sunday nytimes has a two page article on that cow, your nemesis, patti stranger. it’s mostly flattering, but they do say her percentage rate of success is not as high as she says it is. however, they blame it on “editing” at bravo to bring the drama. ha! also, she grew up in short hills nj, an affuent suburb, but on one on of her shows in nyc she said she grew up in manhattan AND in nj. liar!. also, it said she broke up with her boyfriend because basically he didn’t make enough money. she’s a pig!

  66. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston,
    Ice T tried to take me back to his hotel one night… Back in the 90’s pre Coco, but during the time he was with the chick who posed on his album cover in a string bikini and an AK47. Actually I met him and Tupac the same night. It was when MTV came to San Diego the first time for spring break. I was at one of the official after parties looking my usual fine self ;-). Tupac was stomping around the club mad at being ignored although “Poetic Justice” was a recent hit. He was shorter than me. The big draw of the evening was Montel Jordan, even though his one hit was a few years old at the time. Ice T spent well over an hour trying to sweet talk me back to his hotel. He even followed me in the parking lot in his limo. My friends called me crazy for not going but I disagree.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      so he rebounded from you to CoCo.

      I will start calling you ReboundDiva.

    • Ellabean says:

      Montel Jordan – I use to love “This Is How We Do It”. I know, I know, one hit wonder. 😉

    • Sha2000 says:

      Tupac was good looking guy.

      • TrueLifeDiva says:

        Unfortunately, he was a complete asshole that night. To me and everyone in the club. Little man syndrome 😉

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      See even IceT agrees that bikinis and AK47’s are NOT a good look. When will these girls learn to study Glamour Don’ts before they get ready for these CD covers?

      I mean would Audrey Hepburn be caught dead with an assault rifle and a string bikini? I mean really!

      IceT tried to find himself some Coco Chanel elegance, but got blinded by CoCo’s…er…considerable charms. At least he got part of the name right!

  67. Wall St Lady says:

    ShyAsrai on October 23, 2010 at 3:43 pm and

    Cusi77

    I am sooo impressed with ur sister clan. I always wanted company to play with but learned to entertain my self.
    I had 3 brothers. Can u imagine getting all ur mothers dress up stuff & jewlery ,being the only Daddy’s little girl, never deciding who gets what if it was girl stuff;u get my point. I was not spoiled but I did feel entitled to the girl stuff & Daddy’s lap. I cannot imagine having a sister prettier or smarter than me. I was a total girlie girl.
    On the other hand all my brothers had at least one scar I inflicted while defending myself. I can shoot a rifle & a bow & arrow & drive a big truck etc.
    The best is that I have never been imitated by any man on Wall Street (there r a lot)

    I would love to hear about your sisters & how it was in a house
    Soooooooo full of girls.

    • cusi77 says:

      WSL_ I am the 5th. daughter. My Mom had 6 Girls in 9 years!
      The two oldest married really young… when I was 11-12 they were already married. So, the fourth younger WE HAD A BLAST of life! My Dad was very strict and we covered for each other TO DEATH! We shared clothes, cosmetics, (some boyfriend…lol) we were the UNITED front and we still are… even in the distance, we are really close. I can tell, without any doubt, there were never jealousy… if somebody had more than the others WE FELT HAPPY for the one who was more fortunate. I think my Parents were example of generosity and kindness. My Parents gave attention and love equally and I learn from them that love does not divide… multiply!

      That is one of the reasons I feel unconfortable watching the Richards sisters… I never lived that kind of relationship with any of my sisters.

  68. ilovelynn says:

    hi waxdiva, you need to go on factcheck.org it is a non-partisan site that debunks all of the shit storms flying around out there..both democrats and republicans. obama doesn’t have any more of a relationship with rashid khalidi than mccain did ,who gave him money for some program. rashid khalidi is opposed to the violence in israel. president obama actually does not agree with all of his views. this factcheck site is amazing, you will love it! don’t you hate it when you repeat something someone told you that really isn’t true? just the facts, ma’am lol!

    • Waxdiva says:

      ilovelynn: This has nothing to do with Obama! It is about the Salamis. I did not post the original link to stir up any type of political storm. I don’t care about Obama/McCain/fill in the blank politician’s name. “don’t you hate it when you repeat something someone told you that really isn’t true?”… hmmm, I don’t do that… do you? I’ve learned that there are always three sides to a story and sometimes more… FYI: I do my own fact checking… AND I get paid for it.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Respectfully WD,
        why do you think your fact checking credible & mine “moot”?????

        My source won a Pulitzer prize for accuracy in reporting; curious are you in the news biz?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      @ilovelynn?

      wth?

      @waxdiva says: “The Salamis have been long-time supporters of and contributors to Obama, going back to when he was a Senator from Chicago. There have been several articles describing the Salami/Obama relationship. So, perhaps the WH ‘advisors’ view this situation as closed, as they suspended several Secret Service agents and fired the WH Social Secretary who decided to attend the dinner and not replace herself as the final person in charge of checking the guests before entering the media room. IMO, the WH is playing the waiting game… if there is continued flack about the crashing, then they will proceed; otherwise, it’s just going to sink to the bottom and go away”

      How is that repeating something that is not true? She states “several articles have stated” and then gives her opinion.

      You may not agree with her opinion, but it is patronizing and rude to insinuate that she has her opinion due to faulty fact checking rather than having a brain in her head.

      Furthermore there HAS been a tie between Khalidi and Obama. The Los Angeles Times published an article about Obama’s attendance at a 2003 farewell dinner for Khalidi, and their relationship became an issue in the campaign.

      Opponents of Republican candidate John McCain pointed out that he had served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI) during the 1990s which provided grants worth $500,000 to the Center for Palestine Research and Studies. which was co-founded by Khalidi, for the purpose of polling the views of the Palestinian people.

      Regardless, @waxdiva never stated that Obama agreed with his views.

      Personally, I never rely on a “fact checking” site for info. Everyone has their own agenda and until I know what that agenda is I will check the facts myself, and form my own opinion, without having it spoon fed to me.

      • ilovelynn says:

        onemoreinboston and waxdiva: I too was giving my opinion because I happen to love the factcheck site. never once did I say anything mean . there were loads of fund raisers for obama and the fact that whatshisface was there doesn’t mean anything. just MY opinion. never meant anything by it. however, I don’t think they are dropping the salahi thing because they have ties with obama and they were certainly correct in firing the secret service people and the social secretary for the breach. turns out she wasn’t doing what she was suppose to be doing. instead she acted like a guest. as for those grifters being contributors and supporters of obama, since they never pay their bills, how much do you think they actually contributed. again, I didn’t think I was condesending or mean to waxdiva, just tired of innuendo that turns out not really to be true. if you can’t trust a site that doesn’t have an ax to grind, who can you trust? the nytimes? rush limbaugh and glenn beck? I don’t think so. anyway, I apologize to waxdiva and also to you boston. I have never ventured an opinion on this site before, besides the usual “Ihatjillzarin” fun stuff and I guess I’ll never do it again.

        • Kat says:

          I love ya Patsysboys! Good to see you. 😉

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          @ilovelynn
          Look- your opinions are as valid as mine or anyone else’s here.

          I have no problem with you or with your opinions, in fact I welcome them.

          I really have no skin in the game with this argument, I am keeping an open mind either way.

          I don’t necessarily agree with @waxdiva but I don’t think it’s such a huge leap of logic to come to her conclusion. I also see the logic behind your opinion as well.

          It just bothers me when someone disagrees with someone here and claims that it is because they don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t checked their sources, and that they are just repeating erroneous information.

          Like they don’t have a brain in their head.

          ie”don’t you hate it when you repeat something someone told you that really isn’t true?”

          Forgive ME if I have been hasty in calling you out, when I read your comments with a different voice it doesn’t sound as patronizing.

          I certainly accept your apology- none was expected- so I thank you for it.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Well said, One more in Boston & I apologize for posting @ 4:02..I too misunderstood you.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              I was afraid to post this joke then but will now: stop confusing me with the facts!

              • ilovelynn says:

                very funny!” I think this is the beginning of a beautiful relationship”, as someone once said!p.s. do you think waxdiva forgives me?

          • ilovelynn says:

            thanks onemoreinboston, now I can sleep tonite. I’m italian and obsess for days if I think I’ve hurt someone’s feelings! btw, I’M the one without a brain in my head and the one that sometimes repeats stuff I haven’t checked!never again.xx

            • Sha2000 says:

              “…obsess for days if I think I’ve hurt someone’s feelings! ”

              Me too!

            • Waxdiva says:

              I don’t hold any grudges and am very sorry if I have caused you any grief. Friends? I hope so.

              • ilovelynn says:

                ABSOLUTELY! xxx

              • Sha2000 says:

                Of course WaxDiva!

                We agree to disagree : )

                I don’t think we all must always agree on everything BUT I will try to get my point across even if it takes several tries…I think we are similar that way, no?

                I also think that we both can be misunderstood with our tones/texts (at times not always). We come on strong but we mean well & that’s whats important! Freedom of speech applies to us all & that’s a good thing!!!

                (PS: I do admit when the name of BO comes up I am quite protective & can bite. I admire him greatly & make sure to clear up any misconceptions because as we know there are a lot of them out there. From MY viewpoint I understand & appreciate his intent & efforts, thus the rebuttals on my part; it is merely my way of saying thank you as a supporter. Hope you understand.)

        • ilovelynn says:

          great link sha2000! will definitely use it to check the facts. thanks!

          • Sha2000 says:

            Thanks!

            Did I ever tell you I actually know someone who’s name IS Lovelynn?

            • ilovelynn says:

              NO! actually, way back when I started following lynn, my name was “patsysboys”(my dogs) and then lynn changed blog places and being too stupid to live and totally computor challenged, I couldn’t get that name on the new blog. EVERYONE tried to help me, including lynn to no avail. hence the “ilovelynn” moniker. those of us who have been around when lynn only had about 30 followers, remember me as patsysboys.

  69. Waxdiva says:

    I am very frustrated. My desktop is not working and I’m trying to retrieve Joo-dice docs on my Mac. Anyway, I found a site that has the Joo-dice’s bankruptcy docs listing all their creditors… some good reading!

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/42323384/Teresa-and-Joe-Giudice-of-Real-Housewives-of-New-Jersey-Bankruptcy-Filing

    Also, I’ve gotten very intrigued by the Australian girl that idolizes JZ. I’ll be working on that to see if she’s a real person and if so, why JZ; if this girl is not real, who is really behind the website. Of all the people in the world to idolize, a 17-yr-old girl has chosen a second-rate TV reality celeb… that’s a bit odd to me.

    • Ellabean says:

      Agreed Wax. I find it highly suspect too. It’s as if someone thinks that this young girl half way around the world cannot be authenticated.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Help me WD. In looking at the list of creditors there are three mortgages: one for the McMansion, one for the apartment building and one for the building in which the pizza parlor is in? For some reason I thought there was a second mortgage taken out on the McMansion. Then I saw the judgment that Joe’s business partner has of $565,000.00 against him. I remember reading that he thought Joe was putting the money towards the apartment building renovations and instead used the loan proceeds for improvements on their new home. So no need for the second mortgage. Joe’s business partner is third in line as a creditor with Wachovia and Dominion with 1st and 2nd position. He is never going to see that money repaid.

      As for the girl in Australia this has to be a joke. 17 year old girls are boy crazy and set up fan clubs for Jonas Brothers or other performers not a middle age woman who is a B-list reality star. Good luck in your searches.

  70. Waxdiva says:

    An excellent article written by a bankruptcy atty re the Joo-dice case:

    “It is this attorneys opinion that these Debtor’s will get criminally charged for their omissions which could result in several felonies. They also will likely not receive their discharge. ”
    http://www.practicinglaw4u.com/Chicago_Bankruptcy_Blog/Tags/Teresa_JOE_Giudice.aspx

    • I love that this lawyer brings-up the Martha Stewart case here! Teresa is no Martha Stewart, but if Martha had to serve time, these chumps certainly should too!

  71. TLM says:

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Millionaire Madam has actually put her name on a bouquet at 1-800-Flowers. I just had to see what “The Patti Stanger bouquet” looked like. In my opinion it it the ugliest, cheapest looking bouquet I’ve ever seen, with colors and flowers that don’t go together at all. The dark green glass vase is even worse. They labeled this as “elegant”?? It lacks taste in much the same way Patti does. http://ww31.1800flowers.com/product.do?baseCode=90383&conversionTag=true

    • lillybee says:

      Looks like something Jill would like.

    • jezzibel says:

      so you would give this bouquet to someone when you want to call off a relationship?

    • Waxdiva says:

      OMG… I wonder who the genius is at 1-800-flowers that had this brilliant idea? When I think of the Stanger, I never connect her with flowers. Maybe she’s going to make this a requirement to keep membership in the MM club. I can just see her standing over one of her ‘millionaires’ and yelling instructions at him in her shrill voice, “You must send your date a bouquet every day until the first date; after the first date, you will send your date two bouquets a day… the more bouquets you send her the more love she will feel.”

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I much rather receive a ‘dump’ in a dirty ashtray than a vase of flowers with her name on it.

  72. Wall St Lady says:

    True Life Diva
    I think u did the right thing. Ur shoes & u r way to beautiful for
    Ice Tea.

    The test for over zealous men u meet for the 1st time is that as u leave they ask for ur tel #.
    If they don’t u have prevented a waste of ur time.

    But b careful if they do ask it could b a ploy to get u to change ur mind.
    So the next test is that they call.

    U r way worth a beautiful dinner at a romantic restaurante & maybe even a bauble !

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      She is worth a green venetian glass ring from the store across from Channels in eye-taly

    • TrueLifeDiva says:

      It was obvious he just wanted some booty while he was in town. I was not under the impression that it would lead to anything other than bragging rights. I was starstruck but yet NOT sexually attracted to him. Basically I was jabbering like a fool and he interrupted every few minutes saying, “You are very beautiful.” His games was not that strong. I guess he figured his fame was enough to get the panties. It wasn’t. All I wanted was an autograph, not cooties 😉

  73. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    completely OT, but my dogs are getting smarter and I am paying the price. They have now figured out that if they scoot all the way to the far corner of the tub, Mommy will have to climb in with them to scrub the back end and then thay can “shake off” and she gets a bath too! Pulling them forward does not help, then they sit down and you have to still climb in to pull their back ends off the floor of hte tub because they are slippery when wet!

    • Kat says:

      Dogs seem to like to shake off the residual water. Good times.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        These dogs seem to just like Mommy to share the bath experience with them. “If I have to get wet, YOU have to get wet!” Then Misty blow dries herself by hauling butt up and down the hall way until she is just to tired to run anymore. Jake just wants his treat and he takes it into the bedroom and lies on the towels I put on the bed .

        • Kat says:

          I used to bathe my Rott in the shower. You brought back memories. I would be soaked.

          • ilovelynn says:

            4 dogs(one went over the rainbrow bridge in june, sob) 4 showers! mr patsysboys would get in the shower in his underwear, a sight to behold, and I would be outside the shower with a towel and the next dog. you can imagine what the bathroom looked like when we were done! little red hairs on everything from all the shaking! lol!

            • Kat says:

              Our little dog Reo used to race and roll at the same time. She’s been gone a couple years now and so to Sage the Rott. Odd couple- 100 lbs + 12 lbs.
              Now we have 2 big dogs.

              • ilovelynn says:

                we have 2 vizslas (appox 80 lbs each) 5 yrs. old, jake and bob and one brittany parker who was suppose to be my husbands bird dog and turned into a couch potato, 11 yrs. old. our linus was 14 before we had to put him down. sigh. I am so in love with my dogs it ridiculous!

              • Ellabean says:

                Wonderful stories, Duchess, Kat, and ilovelynn.

  74. missmi says:

    Read the book the House of Hilton. Gives some insite as to the type of people Kyle and Kim are and how they were raised.

    • ilovelynn says:

      ok lynn, as usual, stupid here. I clicked on the link for your podcast and then on the little screen arrow and nothing happened. the little circle at the top of my page just kept twirling. do you need to have an ipod to listen(podcast?) or does it come through the computor? dumb is, as dumb does!

  75. Adgirl says:

    @Wax – may I be your Vice President of the anti-Salahi’s Club? (aka Club Grifter.)

    One thing that may have gotten lost in this discussion is the White House did NOT announce the breach/crashing! It was the Washington Post writers who had been following the Salahi’s criminal behavior for over a year that publicly exposed the event.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Absolutely! Yeah, the Salamis would have gotten away with it had it not been for Roxanne Roberts who was familiar with the Salamis and their scams. She saw them and immediately checked the list for their names. Had she not been there, we never would have heard of them.

  76. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    A few more details on the Jeana and Tamra fight.
    **********************************************

    A wild brawl broke out at the wrap party for the Real Housewives of Orange County on Saturday night, with Tamra Barney and Jeana Keough throwing wine at each other and the encounter turning physical, eyewitnesses told RadarOnline.com exclusively.

    Tamra, furious that Jeana has been giving interviews about her – interviews she has told people are wildly inaccurate – had her lawyer write a cease and desist letter to Jeana. When Tamra attempted to give the letter to Jeana at the party, the situation turned physical, RadarOnline.com learned exclusively from eyewitnesses.

    “It was crazy,” one eyewitness told RadarOnline.com. “It looked more like an out-of-control bar scene than a party!”

    Tamra and Jeana began arguing at the party, which was held at Vicky Gunvalson’s house, with Tamra confronting Jeana over the objectionable interview, according to someone who saw and heard the exchange.

    “Jeana wasn’t budging and finally Tamra said, ‘here’s a cease and desist letter from my attorney,’” the eyewitness told RadarOnline.com.

    Jeana refused to accept the letter and cursed Tamra and turned the argument into a physical one.

    “Jeana said to Tamra, ‘Youre’ a b*tch and I’m gonna throw you’re a** in the pool,’” the eyewitness told us. “Then she pushed Tamra, as if she was trying to throw her in the pool.” Tamra started to fall backward, and fell into someone behind her.

    Still on her feet, Tamra responded by throwing a glass of wine in Jeana’s face!

    The eyewitness told RadarOnline.com that Tamra then walked away and as she did Jeana tried to throw HER wine at Tamra. But Jeana missed Tamra and her wine hit another woman – who was wearing white and furious after being splattered.

    That woman then stormed Jeana, grabbed her and pushed her up against a wall!

    It was a wild, wild brawl and Bravo’s cameras were running the entire time. Tamra left the party shortly after and encountered Jeana and a male friend in the driveway. Jeana’s friend then took a wine glass and threw it at Tamra’s feet, with glass shattering and flying everywhere.

    “If the cameras caught half of what happened Saturday night it’s going to be the craziest episode of Real Housewives anyone has ever seen,” the eyewitness told RadarOnline.com.

    On Sunday, Jeana’s daughter Kara’s twitter featured some back-and-forth about the wild event, but had no details other than a claim Tamra had thrown a glass of wine at Kara’s mother.

    Tamra was angry that Jeana talked about her life in interviews, including one with RadarOnline.com recently, according to another source. Jeana has stayed friends with Simon Barney, Tamara’s estranged husband, and things that Jeana has said about that marriage are not true, according to Tamra, which is why she turned to her attorney.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/10/exclusive-tamra-barney-jeana-keough-brawl-real-housewives-party

  77. ilovelynn says:

    great sleuthing Ican’tstandthetoxicity! I would PAY big bucks to see that fight in it’s entirety.(I have no life!)

  78. Wall St Lady says:

    Lynn your radio show was great fun. U r so calm cool & collected ! I enjoyed every minute. It was great the way u discussed the last 2 shows then hopped over to current buzz on any “star” like ill’s claim of being bullied & the slapping Ramona rumor.
    U Rocked !

    http://www.winningbeautypageants.com/2010/10/reality-buzz-with-lynn-hudson-celebrity-gossip-sponsored-by-winning-beauty-pageants/

  79. Wall St Lady says:

    Ok I hope grandMa Wrinkles doesn’t get bathed more than my Coon Cat. Luke gets 2-3 baths a year. He does not like it but he let’s me. I fill the tub high w/warm water. Then I bring him in
    & close the door. I then put baby shampoo on him (no water). Now I put him in the tub & hold his front legs. Now he starts to yell. I get the soap off by stroking him. He doesn’t bite or scratch . All the while I am trying to keep him from climbing up the shower curtain.
    My brother won’t help cuz he wants me to b the bad guy.

    Luke plays in a swamp & eats the heat off of 1′ lizards. He brings them as gifts.He sleeps on my head so when he starts smelling swampy he needs a bath.

    When luke is dry he doesn’t act mad & he prances & preens around. He knows he is FINE & he likes it.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I’m bathing our two guinea pigs tonight.

      Yes, I know that sounds ridiculous ; )

    • Kat says:

      I’ve wanted a Maine Coon for a long time. Huge, smart, laid back.
      “Luke eats the heat off lizards.” That’s funny. 😉

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      My friend, you are one brave woman.

      Although Maine Coons are very sweet natured, no way, no how would I try to bathe mine. She’s an indoors cat so- not too icky.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Oh, you make me miss my big Maine Coon girl. She was an indoor cat and quite content with that till I moved to a farm for a while. Then there was no keeping her inside. She climbed ladders and got on the chicken house, and generally pestered and played with everything, including the rather jaded farm dog who fell in love with her. The two of them rolled in dust to the point when you touched them, puffs of dust rose. And she HAD to sleep next to my head with her head on the other side of the pillow. There was always a dirty spot that was hers — no one wanted to sleep there. She talked and liked to hold hands. Quite a personality. To my amusement, the Farmer was jealous of her, and she didn’t think much of him for it. (I should have listened to her relationship advice!) Thanks for reminding me, WSL. She was a good friend.

  80. I’m going to click-on the podcast and listen while I read the comments!
    I did see RHWOBH, and I read one comment up-thread by, (natanieil?), that I think nailed what Bravo is trying to set-up between the sisters, and I agree.
    This group O’ gals, to me IS “The”-Housewives group that I pretty much feel like we have all been waiting for.
    No fakers or posers here when it comes to $$, and they have enough class & upbringing on their own merits from what I can tell, that they aren’t just rich men’s trophy-wives.
    Nothing too hateable/objectionable, (yet).
    I’m wanting to not like Camille. Why did she use a surrogate(s?) to have her children? And yes it is my business if you are on reality tv! (ordinarily I would say that it was definitely not my business there).
    Maybe I’m hoping to find some reason not to like her because I know what is coming, and I’m hoping that I can find a reason not to hate Kelsey Grammar for what he’s about to do to her? -Because seriously, if she becomes likable, then I’m really not going-to like him very much at all.
    Looking-at photos of Kim, through the years, she had a “chubby” phase. I’m wondering if she was expecting in those photos? Or, if she had much plastic surgery done on her face?
    The funny thing for me about Kim is that everyone seems to remember her best from, “Witch Mountain”, but I’m more of a “Nanny & the Professor”-type.
    And speaking-of plastic surgery, what has been done to Taylor’s face is tragic in my opinion. I don’t like to comment on people’s deformities, but when you purposely do something like that to yourself, (and you are on reality tv), -its fair game imo.
    Has everyone seen the Snickers Halloween commercial? The one with the, “scary” Jocelyn Wilderstien costume? I haven’t had a chance to send-off my complaints to whatever company owns Snickers, but personally, I am offended that they would choose to make fun of a living human being, no matter how ridiculous she looks.
    I guess the only difference for me is that even though Wilderstein is a socialite, she is still a private person, while Taylor is on reality tv, which to me says, “Here I am, what do you think?”.
    ——yep, I’m catching-up with my HWs. I don’t think that I will blog the Beverly Hills bunch, I’ll wait for NY, 2011, but I am watching.
    And I’m out-of-my-mind with Top Chef Deserts.-I spent an entire afternoon studying Parisian macaroons, which I think are the new, “cupcakes”.
    For awhile there it looked like red-velvet cake, (remember Bethenny’s wedding cake?), would be the new cupcakes, but due to Top Chef, and the fact that massive amounts of food coloring can be used, I think that it is macaroons.
    Btw—my son received his very first stipend for playing basketball today & it is a big moral boost for our family, we are all terribly excited.
    The season has not officially started yet, it starts in late November- I will keep you guys posted, (ha ha-like you have a choice-I really cannot help bragging about this).

    • Kat says:

      Congrats to your son!

      • TY Kat–yes, I have to give him some credit (ha ha). If it were up to me he would already be in the NBA, but you have to let your kids do their own thing. Just the fact that he has got himself on-track has me over-the-moon.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Camille has IBS. It has not been proven that if you have IBS you will have a difficult pregnancy. It runs the gamut… some women with IBS have problems while pregnant and others that have IBS have no problems. There are no tests that can predict whether or not a person that has IBS will have a difficult pregnancy. I guess she didn’t want to take a chance and chose the surrogacy route.

      • Lynn & Cindy just mentioned the IBS issue on the podcast! Yeah-I can definitely see where someone who suffered that would be concerned. Just the issue of the extra medications that one would possibly have to take in event of a flare-up, would be a big one. And when I think of all of the confusion during pregnancy between stomach issues in general vs. “is it pregnancy-related?”–heartburn, gas, cramps, etc. , well I would probably consider something like that myself if it were me.
        I had no idea that I would come down with an illness during one of my pregnancys, but when I did, I was unable to take what was normally prescribed. If I had known in advance that there was a chance of that happening, I would have considered the different options too.

      • quincyil says:

        I know of two young women with this disease. Both have two children but had difficult pregnancies and one lost a baby near the end.

        Most of the time, they do well.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      That is so great housewifehater! There’s nothing like having your child on their chosen path 😀

      • I’ve actually had people tell me that I was “crazy” to have such “hoop dreams” for my son. So I’ve mainly kept it to myself. You know they always have to say, “Oh-nobody makes it to the pros., bla, bla,”, and that it is irresponsible as a parent to have or encourage that sort of thing. he’s not there yet, but he’s got himself in the game in a way that what he does counts & will get noticed, which is all I can hope for at this point, but he-could-go-all-the-waaay, as they say, and I don’t have to give-up my secret dream, (yet). But whatever my kids do, I’ll be proud of course. I just happen to think he was born to play ball.

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          Screw the Debby Downers! Of course SOME people make it and he just might! 😀 I’ll be rooting for you secretly too lol. I mean mean him. You both! This is sooo great!

  81. Sha2000 says:

    Teresa mentioned on Twitter that it was their anniversary yesterday. Wonder if the gift was fugazi again?

  82. Wall St Lady says:

    No the gift from Mr to Mrs Ape was probably a

    Fugmata

    From the Jabone store.

    Bye Gejimons.

  83. Zoey says:

    Wow, 2 negative comments to Michaele disappear within minutes!

    I went to the link someone here posted to Michaele’s Facebook page and read the comments to her on her latest post. Shockingly there were many, many sickeningly sweet positive comments. I don’t know who these strange people are…..But the very last 2 comments were negative.
    got distracted with TV for a few minutes, then refreshed the page, and POOF, the 2 comments were gone! Interesting. Either M sits by it watching it constantly, with a bony finger on the delete button, or has hired someone to do this. I hope they got paid upfront!

    • Adgirl says:

      ‘… a boney finger on the delete button,…’ ha!
      She IS sitting there deleting away! At her plastic desk at Motel 6 where the Salahi’s really live.

    • quincyil says:

      I’m sure it’s an underling. Probably a high school kid.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Let’s figure out a way to post a positive comment with a secret message a la Teresa’s blog.

      Fine upstanding couple! Being persecuted by the liberal media!
      U know who I mean! The media that links Tareq to the PLO! Ridiculous!
      Cannot even imagine what this has done to someone with MS. So sad! Just
      Knowing that poor Michaela had to sit there while those horrible harpies
      Yammered on and on about the invitation!
      Obviously, they aren’t in jail, so show me what laws were broken? And Lynda!
      Unrepentent of the hatred spewed at the beautiful Michaela! So Jealous of her
      Gifts of both beauty and brains! And a husband who adores her. She is well
      Rid of this show and these haters!
      I don’t know who else but Michaela could have held up at the congressional
      Fight fest! She should be suing them for dragging her name and
      Tareq’s name through the mud! Absolutely disgusting! Just for their own sad
      Egos! And She held up with such poise and dignity!
      Really a class act. I love her, she’s like a regal princess on her horse, Sparkle.

  84. Adgirl says:

    Stanger Alert…
    nytimes style article. It’s 3 pages so I won’t paste it here.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/fashion/24Stanger.html?_r=1&ref=style

  85. ilovelynn says:

    “at her plastic desk at the motel 6 where the salahi’s really live”
    good one adgirl, almost wet my pants with that one!

  86. Adgirl says:

    Seriously, I am dying to know where they really live.
    I’ve heard that one of their assistants claimed their apartment was disgustingly dirty and overflowing with stuff.

  87. Wall St Lady says:

    One mo Bo

    Snarkie is
    As snarkie does.

    2 snarks does make it rignt.

    Snark Snark
    & double Snark

  88. Zipit Zarin says:

    I was hearing Bethenny’s voice in my head sayin “He’s hittin this!” (about her and Jason) and then tried to imagine ANY guy “hittin” Stanker. Nope, can’t imagine any guy finding her appealing whatsoever.

  89. Zipit Zarin says:

    Where did she come from? How did she get a reputation in order to get a show on Bravo? It boggles the mind that anyone would listen to her and then on top of that take her seriously.

    • ilovelynn says:

      hi zipit, read the sunday times article.”she comes from 3 generations of matchmakers”. plus they list the various and sundry jobs she has had before this which all escape my memory right now. nothing too impressive.

  90. Zoey says:

    One Twitter link led me to another, and then to one for Oasis wine, which looks very new (only a few tweets). First, it mentions Michaele is working on a record with a major band, gag, and second, it gives a link to Oasis wine that is broken! Everything is fake! Are these even real people???

    http://twitter.com/Oasiswine

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiight. “A legendary band” Like the legend she is in her own mind.

    • quincyil says:

      I thought she has a nice speaking voice. I bet she can sing.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Her voice gives me the heebiejeebies. She sounds like a man trying to be a woman.

        • American Idiot says:

          She used to date someone from the band Journey. Maybe that is the “legendary band”.

          • Zoey says:

            In one of the articles it says Journey was the band that played at one of the Oasis functions, and it says how many vendors and caterers, etc, did not get paid, but the band got paid. So maybe that’s the only reason the band got paid, they’re friends.

            Was it Randy Jackson she dated? What’s up dog!

          • American Idiot says:

            I looked it up. Michaele dated Neal Schon of the band Journey. (1998 – 1999)

  91. Wall St Lady says:

    I hear Fatty Stinker
    Has tuna breath & drools.
    I hear her thong got caught in her hinnie 2 years ago. Also her dentures slip & slide in slime. Fatty also has ring worm on her wo wo & her crabs keep the worms company. All her toes have fungus. Last Fatty has herpes on her lips.
    Except for those tiny flaws,Fatty would make anyone a great mate !

  92. Zipit Zarin says:

    She kinda reminds me of Cher…one from another dimension where Cher went to a fun house mirror and Poof! Stanker came out the other end of the worm hole.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I listened to it Lynn. It was great! You are great! You were too kind, hehe.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        First show, just getting warmed up 🙂 LOL

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          That’s what I figured. Velvet glove then iron fist 😀

        • zoekayla says:

          Lynn you were great…just enough info vs analysis. I enjoyed the give and take – you’re a natural for radio!
          Don’t give up your day job/fun with us, though – we would all shrivel up without this outlet 🙂
          I spent the last few days playing with grandsons in Seattle, so I had a lot of catching up to do! Sounds like all is well on the blog…
          BTW, Kat, I have a rottie right now. She was tossed in my yard as debris one Thanksgiving weekend. She was so small she slept in my slipper in the beginning. Now she is a full-grown 8 yr old, with strong loyalties to “her” people. I was always a standard poodle sort of person, so this new doggie has opened my eyes to her breed.
          Sleep well, Lynn Fam! It’s good to be back.

          • Kat says:

            Zoekayla, how sweet of you to take her in. They are great pets. I think I read Buffywood has a HUGE 150 lb male. I miss Sage to this day. He was … a gift.

    • quincyil says:

      I listened too. Great job. I think you are going to be as famous as Jill and that must be killing her. We appreciate that.

      • vilzvet says:

        Yes, velvet glove then you must whip out all the Guidice Italian trip blogs and just do a reading, would love to hear you read your stuff in your own voice, LOL! By the way you owe me an ink cartridge…on a slow day I actually printed out my favorite blogs so in case the world crashes I will still have my Lynn I Hate Zarin “Best of ” Folder.

    • ilovelynn says:

      thanks lynn! you are too fabulous for words! can’t wait to hear more.xxx

  93. error404 says:

    OMG Camille drives me crazy! She’s just odious.

    I have no idea what was going on at the time of filming, but it’s painfully clear that she can’t stand her husband. She can barely stand to even touch him when they are together, she often fails to make eye contact, she rushed him off the phone so quick it was comical, she just really can’t stand him. I wonder if she already knew about the other woman at this point?

    And someone needs to tell her that trying to claim credit for your husband’s idea went out of style back in the 1950s… Really Camille? It was your idea to cast PA as “Medium”? Really? Quick, someone get this woman a producer’s job at Paramount, she obviously knows the business! LOL She’s as clueless as Kiki. You know, the former Editor in Chief of a fashion magazine! Right.

    And it’s just sad to see Lisa spend more time parenting her dog than Camille spends with those rug rats she paid some other woman to have for her, then pays 4 other women to raise. She’s so creepy, I swear she and Kelsey are Patty Stangers only successful match!

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      One day those rugrats are going to be grown up and ….well, you can imagine them on the psychiatrist couch. I wonder if they will act out like Tony Soprano or go the other route and be like Bethenny. Make Skinny Marguaritas out of lemons or snap violently when they aren’t passing out from anxiety.

    • kbinldo says:

      that & scheduling a business call during intermission, when he should be focused on, oh I don’t know, the show that people are paying exhorbitant amounts of money to see him in? Just a thought….

    • KellitaM says:

      And why wouldn’t Camille go with him? If my husband was to be gone to NY for a year, I think we’d pack up the kids and move there with him. Her kids are still fairly young. She could add to her staff of hundreds (snark) and pay someone to home school them. A year is a long time for little ones to be away from their daddy.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Zactly. What’s the point of having those homes all over the place if you don’t leave the one you’re in? What stopped her and the kids from moving to NY? That part, to me, was fishy from the get go.

        • vilzvet says:

          They were planning to go with him, she mentioned that in the first eppy. That is why she had the interior decorator from NY flown in to show her some samples. Guess they were going to go there after the kids finished school? This all was filmed this past spring, correct? I know it’s not as far behind as the other series filmed.

      • error404 says:

        I assume she had to stay behind to be on the show, which tells me where the marriage was at. Her “job” was more important than living with her husband.

        And as for him, why did a rich and famous actor have to take a role in an outdated play way across the country? It’s not like La Cage just opened. Are there no acting jobs in Hollywood? It’s seems obvious to me that the gig was a trial separation for the couple, and the show was a sort of goodbye present to his wife to set her on her feet as they prepare to split. Why else would she mention that she’s more than just his wife like every 5 minutes if she wasn’t setting the groundwork for her independence.

        It just seems obvious to me that the marriage is over even before Bravo’s camera’s pulled into the driveway.

        • error404 says:

          even the nicelodian show she was trying to shop around sounds like the type of show a recent divorcee would pitch: “my kids from a famous dad and their nanny” Really? Didn’t Kiki already pitch this show! LOL

  94. Zipit Zarin says:

    You dare you to not have tears of laughter after watching this.

    • American Idiot says:

      Love the kittys!

      For dog lovers: Go to You Tube: OK GO, White Knuckles, Official Video.

      Proceeds go to Animal Rescue. Over 124 takes. Take #74 was the one used.

  95. I get the distinct impression that former child star Kim is mentally ill, and that this is the real reason why her sister Kyle is forced to take care of her like she’s still a child.

    Is anyone else picking up on that vibe?

    • Adgirl says:

      YEP! Thanks for saying. Most of us have been tip toeing around calling Kim “fragile”. She is very troubled.
      .

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        It also makes sense over Kyle’ s chagrin about the housewife poll about who the viewers would rather for a sister. She probably knew big “little sissy” is still crying over the last poll.

  96. emt2 says:

    I find it hilarious that Tamara is angry at Jeana for “getting in her business” when that is exactly what she did with Gretchen and her relationships. Tamara just loves to be the top girl in the clique and have everyone doing what she says.

    I agree that Jeana obviously has a lot of issues with men and forgiving atrocious behavior but I think that at the core Jeana is a good person and understands why she is doing what she is doing with her husband. I think that many of her comments on Tamara and Simon were spot on.

    If Tamara doesn’t want people in her business than she should stop having Bravo cameras following her to the courthouse, posting pictures of her new boytoy all over the place, giving interviews to reporters about what a deadbeat Simon is and the details of their marriage. Don’t give up a lot of information and then be upset when someone gives their opinion.

    I’m surprised Gretchen isn’t rubbing this all in her face. lol

  97. Kip says:

    I am liking this show more and more too. There are two of them though, that irritate me…Kim- with her negative, downtrodden look at anything, “I am a victim” outlook and Camille. Like you, it’s sad to know what she’s heading for but my God the woman likes to brag and hold her nose up in the air. I find her pretty obnoxious and weak.
    I wonder how much Adrienne really loves her husband as he’s bonkers over her for sure. The only two couples that look secure to me are Kyle and her husband and Lisa and her husband. I really like Lisa a lot!
    As for Jerky Jill Z…thank God is all I can say..I don’t want to see her in anymore short skating skirts, lol.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I laugh every time I see their (RHOBH) little awkward dances & twirls in their intros. Camille is a dancer? Her twirl remind’s me of Ramona’s awkward-looks-like she’s-gonna-fall-over one from the first season. Anyone else notice how silly they look?

  98. Wall St Lady says:

    We have a birthday party just after the new blog !

  99. Wall St Lady says:

    Ditto Kats !

  100. AZ Girl says:

    Someone posted last night at 7:30 ET on TVWOP site that the Salahi’s were spotted at the OUTBACK restaurant in Warrenton eating dinner. From White House to Outback. HA!

    • Sha2000 says:

      No lentils on the menu if I remember correctly; I wonder though how many orders of bloomn’ onions Tarmac had.

  101. Wall St Lady says:

    cusi77 on October 24, 2010 at
    5:32 pm
    Thank u for sharing ur beautiful life story. U grew up w/ a
    Team cusi77 !
    It sure sounds fun, safe & honest & loved !
    God Bless ur parents !
    Move over
    “Cheaper By The Dozen”

  102. error404 says:

    Kim and Kyle are a dysfunctional match made in hell! Hence their inclusion in a RH franchise. LOL

    I highly doubt my Mom will ever make any death bed proclamations of “take care of your older siblings”, but pretending for a moment that she would, I certainly wouldn’t repeat this confidence no less than once per episode on a TV show! Its obvious that Kyle is just using it as an excuse for her overbearing butinski misbehaving.

    And Bravo can only be blamed so much. They may be giving Kim the “crazy edit” and Kyle the “bitch edit”, but those 2 women actually said those things. I’m sure it is how they actually are.

    Yes, Kim’s unrealistic view toward house hunting is frustrating, but it’s no excuse for Kyle’s “live your life my way because I say so!” attitude. 2 wrongs don’t make a right, and there we have that relationship in a nut shell.

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