I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

I Hate Jill Zarin   Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Typically when we see any of the housewives with a man that is not their husband, we see them with their gay best friend.   Beverly Hills is the exception, Camille Grammar isn’t hanging out with her gay BFF in her husband’s absence, she’s playing tennis with hot, sexy buddy of Kelsey Grammar, Nick.  Nick and Camille are not just playing tennis, they’re play flirting.  This is a bit inappropriate behavior for a wife on television, but foreseeing a divorce in her future, maybe not all that inappropriate.

I really like Adrienne but I think that her marriage has fallen into a rut.  She tends to roll her eyes whenever her husband suggests that he tag along as she makes plans with the girls.  The fact that she didn’t really invite him, the fact that he invited himself should have rang the bell that his presence wasn’t really welcome.  Add to that her comment that his shoes are really loud, it seems as though many things about this man irritates his wife.

Lisa hosts the housewives and their husbands at her restaurant Villa Blanca in Los Angeles, this being the first time many of the
players meet one another.  Lisa actually laughs uncontrollably when she recounts Taylor’s description of her hot, hunky husband after seeing him in person, she clearly doesn’t agree with Taylor’s
description.  Money tends to make men more attractive, but not to Lisa.

Lisa seems to be very hands on in running her restaurant, she calls all the staff by name and confidently maneuvers through the elaborate kitchen.  Lisa also announces that someone stole the mirror (again) off the bathroom wall of Villa Blanca, I think that Lisa should have a talk with Adrienne about how to secure things to the wall the way hotels do.

Bravo has now inserted footage of each of the ladies packing, nothing shocking they all take too many shoes, too many clothes
resulting in an obscene amount of luggage for a two day trip to Vegas.  They do what many of us do only on a larger and more expensive scale.  I would have much rather seen more footage of the trip.

Adrienne is an outstanding host providing top of the line  transportation, a tour of the most fascinating and innovative room in her hotel, the hardwood suite that includes a basketball court and pool table.  Maybe it was just me, but in school we weren’t allowed on the basketball courts with regular shoes on, only sneakers because those high heels ruin the beautiful floors.   Each of the ladies are grateful to Adrienne and she gets only high marks for the VIP treatment she provided to all of the ladies.

For someone who doesn’t drink, Camille drinks a lot.  We see her slamming shots, well sipping shots of tequila with the guys, and enjoying cocktails with the ladies.  The Kelly Bensimon of Beverly Hills is a quivering pile of contradictions.  She is offended if you mention her famous husband yet she mentions him every chance she gets and reminds us that she is married to the “best actor in
Hollywood”!  Really?  Kelsey Grammer?  I’ll admit he was good on Cheers and even better, even funnier on his own show but the best actor in Hollywood is pushing it.

We know as we watch that their marriage is over, only Camille doesn’t know it yet.  Grammar dumps her for another woman after 12 years of marriage and two children.

Just like Top Chef’s Pea Puree mystery, Bravo’s cameras fail to
record a key element to the show and miss the conversation that will apparently change the relationship between Camille and Kyle.  According to Camille, Kyle was asking her about her upcoming trip to Hawaii and at the end of the conversation added that no one cares about Camille without her husband Kelsey.  Kyle admits to asking some friendly questions about the Hawaii trip but denies making the final comment about Kelsey Grammer.  Where the hell were the producers and why weren’t they filming?  Do you suppose someone has saved a voice mail message?

As all of the ladies frequent the club in Vegas after an elaborate
dinner, they all take to the dance floor with their husbands, (those that have them).  No one can take their eyes off of the sexy, over the top dancing that Camille treats everyone to, missing only a stripper pole.  Adrienne’s husband inappropriately whips out a $100 bill and shoves it down Camille’s breasts.  Rather than being offended she giggles, pulls the bill back out and returns it to the pig who wasn’t supposed to be in attendance in the first place.  Camille
was dancing for the cameras and trying to remind everyone of her Club MTV days as a dancer on the show that nobody watched.
Her need for attention and her constant flirting with men who are not her husband reflects her insecurity and her lack of attention from her husband.

I don’t know about you all but when I heard that the Richardson sisters were going to be on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I
assumed that these two ladies would dominate and be much of the focus of the show.   But Kim Richards is really a non-entity, she’s a dud, a bore, an unsociable lump on a log.  It’s a shame that the woman who has been an icon and admired by millions of fans has now had her reputation trashed by Bravo.  She would have been so much better off if she had left her personal life a secret to us all rather than allow us to see her like this.  It seems that she’s been messed up by either being a child star or failed relationships but it isn’t something she should have revealed in my opinion.

In stark contrast, Kyle Richardson is a vibrant, loving mother with a fantastic loving husband and has an incredible life.  She seems to try to lead her sister in the right direction but becomes frustrated when Kim refuses to cooperate.  Kim has built her life around her children who are almost grown and barely need her anymore and she seems like a lost puppy not knowing what to do.  I was really sad watching her roaming around alone in that huge hotel room.  A room that is clearly made for a couple, this isn’t a business man’s suite.

Another phenomenal dinner in a private dining room of the Palms hotel and dessert is a wide variety of old fashioned kids treats like ding-dongs, ho-ho’s and cotton candy.  Fun and  whimsical treats to end an upscale meal but unfortunately Taylor completely ruins the moment by disgusting and vulgar consumption of cotton candy eaten in ways only porn stars could possibly know.  Way more than I needed to see.

The ladies all attend the Jay-Z concert as Adrienne’s guests and while Bravo clearly didn’t have the rights to air any of the concert, we saw just little bits of the ladies dancing to the groove.

I really enjoy this series, the Beverly Hills ladies are the real deal, they have money and they aren’t afraid to use it.  But in the case of these six ladies, there is more substance to them than just shopping and doing lunch.  I would have hoped to see more charity work
among this group and hopefully we’ll see more of it in future  episodes.  They’re interesting, fun and don’t seem to be hiding anything.  I think we’ll truly see how the other half lives through this series…finally, what Bravo had in mind with The Housewives shows.

This tiff between Camille and Kyle isn’t over, previews show
that the ladies small tiff becomes a bigger and more substantial issue going forward.  Watch What Happens….

Until Next Time….


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321 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

  1. Diana says:

    Hi Lynn, very belated congratulations on the radio show! I’m not surprised though–the work you have done on this blog and the people and attention you’ve brought to it has been an amazing accomplishment in itself. I have a feeling even more fabulous (and prosperous!) opportunities lie in store for you.

    • Cakers says:

      I agree,….excellent review Lynn. Also, belated kudos & congrats on your radio show! I look forward to listening to it! 🙂
      I was out of work since the end of June and been addicted to your blog for a few months now, (mostly lurking but I also posted a few times).
      I was becoming such an “Embarrassing-Addicted-LynnFam-Housewife-Slug”, that I actually started to fib (ok…down right LIE! 😉 ) to my hubby & kids about how long I spent here reading, (along with RCH & ROHW & various other’s blogs).
      I’ve since started a temp. painting/cleaning job and I gottta say:
      the DT’s have been freaking unbearable!!!! LOL
      You’re as/if not more addicting than crack, karaoke & those Kraft (candy) foil-wrapped fudgies (remember those?) all rolled into one!

      I can’t wait to see all the adorably cute costumes of the ‘lil Trick-or-Treaters. They’re sooooo cute! Especially when they wear a ducky or bumble-bee costume. Makes me want to eat ’em up!

      • Cakers says:

        Disclaimer: I DO NOT know what a crack addiction is like.
        I only know Karaoke & Kraft Fudgy addictions< (& not necessarily together) 🙂

  2. quincyil says:

    Excellent review, Lynn. There is fodder in BH for a real housewive’s show.

    Lisa and Kyle are my favorites. I feel sorry for Kim. I dislike Camille even though she’s having a rough time. I think I did too much background research on Camille and how she lured Kelsey from another woman to feel sorry that another woman lurked Kelsey from Camille.

    Lisa seems to have a pink fashion theme going. Spiked heels for pool side will be my first choice next summer. I wonder if Camille actually swims in that suit.

    I love Vegas, but I don’t think I know where the Palms is on the strip. I like Ceasars, Belagio and the Venetian best. My daughter has stayed on the celebrity floors on the Bellagio and has been on a deck chair next to Meg Ryan for a few days while babysitting our friends small children. That area of the Bellagio looks a lot like the Palms Penthouse area. I always am conservative with expenses at hotels, but I once got upgraded to a really nice suite when I let a very forceful and very important man push his way into my turn at the Ceasar’s desk. I smiled and winked at the receptionist so she gave me that upgrade. Wow… that’s I can can say.

    • sugarmagnolia10 says:

      The Palms is not on the strip, it’s off it it’s own little area. The opposite side of downtown.

    • cusi77 says:

      The Palms is in Flamingo Road, across The Rio Hotel, five min. west to The Ceasars and Bellagio… Reason for which has that spectacular view from The Strip…

  3. JazzNightOut says:

    WSL and WSM: A very Happy Anniversary to both of you. You, WSL, give us hours of friendship and love here in the LynnFam, not the least of which is being our birthday party planner. I think you are a very, very kind and generous woman and am very glad to know you. Again Happy Anniversary to you and WSM AND many, many, many more.

  4. CdnFillie says:

    Happy Anniversary WSL and WSM, luv readin your posts. Happy Trick or Treat everyone

  5. JenFromCincy says:

    I thought Paul only slipped Camille a five…which is why I thought she gave it back. The look on Adrienne’s face was priceless, so I’m pretty sure Paul and Adrienne still have sparks. In my experience, you have to care to get jealous.

    I love Kyle and Lisa so far, and enjoy Adrienne. I’m really lukewarm about Taylor. Maybe it’s because I know so little about her, but she comes off Stepford-y.

    I really feel badly for Kim. Empty nesting is hard enough when you’re part of a couple. Having it come on her while she’s single must be doubly rough.

    This (aside from Season 1 and 2 of NY) has been my favorite housewives series so far. No manufactured drama like with Jersey. No completely delusional people like Atlanta and the latest O.C. crop. Just fun, interesting women.

    • LynnnSoCal says:

      It was $5. I’m fairly certain she would have kept $100! I know it’s tv, Bravo scripted, but I find Kelsey Grammar’s ex- wife incredibly unlikeable. Not a single genuine quality about her. Brings narcissim to a whole new level. Bleh!
      WSL, enjoy your posts, gracious thoughtfulness to LynnFam. I offer my congrats to you and WSM. With Aloha for many more to come.

  6. boston02127 says:

    ✰*•˛❤˛•*✰ WSL & WSM ✰*•˛❤˛•*✰
    ✰*•˛❤˛•*✰ Happy Anniversary ✰*•˛❤˛•*✰

  7. Wall St Lady says:

    Blush Blush
    Dear Canada & Jazz !

  8. Wall St Lady says:

    Wow Boston 2
    I am always learning something from U ,our youngest,but very wise & talented LynnFam member !
    Thanks for the “art”.

    We had a wonderful dinner. WSM surprised me by having my CLOSEST childhood friend & maid of honor sitting at the table when I arrived. We laughed till we cried. It wasn’t very romantic but there was plenty of time for that later & laughter is the best aphrodisiac !

  9. KellitaM says:

    Great blog!

    It’s hard to like Camille with her over-the top flirtatious behavior toward married men, parenting via four young nannies, and superior attitude toward the other women. She doesn’t seem to be trying very hard to become friends with any of them. But then she’ll complain that women are catty and don’t like her. Hmmm. Wonder why?

    My heart goes out to Kim. She seems really sweet, but troubled right now. I understand the difficult changing role of motherhood when your kids are growing up and you’ve poured so much into them. I’m going through a bit of that myself right now. I think Kyle really cares about her and wants the best for her. I just wish she’d sensor her words a little better. And what of Kim’s date? Why couldn’t Bravo have filmed and showed that? It left us hanging.

    Taylor and her husband- sad. It appears to be a marriage without love or passion.

    Those are my one-cup-of-coffee thoughts. Happy Halloween, everybody!

    • mat says:

      If you ask me its you views who are delusional- do you think for a minute these girls don’t know a camera is rolling- it’s like the lens has magical abilities to transport even the nicest girl into a shrew bitch. These gals seem to all feel that if they don’t bring on the drama and heat they’ll be edited out- Of course Kim is quiet, she knows this is all BS and without a script can’t ad lib. They all have one agenda- make me feel special-make my empty life seem like it has purpose. It’s the saddest example of human frailty on tv. And as for Andy Queen, me thinks you like to see the bitches squirm- if you fawned over Berkus any heavier you’d have crushed his balls.

  10. Wall St Lady says:

    The voice of reason,our TALENTED & creative award winning artist,
    36-26 36 ,equestrian,chef,mother to very successful adult children,farm hand,married to a world renound Dr.,compassionate & clever (just to name a few qualities)LynnFam thank U for ur well wishes !

    I was choked up when I showed WSM our Anniversary love notes. He was too !

    • quincyil says:

      I’m blushing…

      I keep thinking about the little kids and grandkids of board members and their joy today. My granddaughter is going to be a duck. She loves to say, “duck.”

  11. error404 says:

    I must have missed the part where Nick was flirting back.

    It seemed to be the tennis talk went more like:

    Nick: Have you been practicing?
    Camille: Oh, I’ll practice with you anytime baby, rrrr!
    N: Um… ok. Shall I serve?
    C: Yeah baby, hit me with your balls!
    C: Ooh, you swung your ball so hard at my face!
    N: Um….
    C: It’s so hot! Do you want to take off your shirt?
    N: No, I’m fine.
    C: I know, I tell everyone how fine you are all the time. rrrr!

    • KellitaM says:

      Lol! That’s pretty accurate!

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Do you think this is how she started out with Kelsey?

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Here’s what Camille has to say by twitter:

      “I’m not happy with the way they have been editing the show. A lot has been taken out of context and some hasn’t.”
      10:45 AM Oct 29th via Echofon”

      heh – it seemed like similar flirting at the restaurant – she asked him something about sex, and he seemed really uncomfortable. If it is true that his wife was in the hotel (according to Camille’s blog and he did mention a Trish), the poor guy is being set up to look like the Max, but truly is a friend or watchdog.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I saw Nick as very uncomfortable with Camille on the tennis court especially when she made the comment about him playing naked with a jock strap. Because Camille says it it’s supposed to by flirting. If a man said, “Aren’t you going to play in your bra and panties?” it would come off as harassment. To me, it bordered on desperation….desperate to look sexy and funny.

  12. TEB says:

    Happy Anniversary WSL and WSM!! I’m sure you will have many more happy years together!! 🙂

  13. OneMoreInBoston says:

    WSL and WSM:

    happy Happy Anniversary!

    I remember this summer when you were in the hospital WSL, and WSM tried to make your stay a little more pleasant by connecting with us here.

    I love that you are both so devoted to each other, and I love that you are part of this blog, and I love that have become a part of the daily minutia of my life.

    Have a wonderful Day where you celebrate each other!

  14. housewifeaddict says:

    Another one from Caroline:

    What a day, what a day, what a day…………..like I said, the winds of change are blowing……..
    4 minutes ago via Facebook

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      I wonder if this “change” has something to do with Teresa. I read that she set a deadline for the end of this month. If Bravo doesn’t give in to her demands, she will walk. We should hear something soon.

      • error404 says:

        TG is an idiot. Is she really comparing her whinny kids and their tacky parties as being equal to Ashley and all of the drama she brought this past season? Seriously? Ashley did more on the show than Caroline Dina and Jac combined, and brought Bravo a lot of attention as well as possibly a younger audience, and TG thinks baby Aeioudaeiouyw deserves $20,000 for wearing fugly headbands and baby leopard print high heels? Idiot.

        • error404 says:

          btw, does this mean we should expect Gia and Mellania to be on the next episode of Patty’s show? Two millionaires in the making looking for nice jewish husbands?

  15. housewifeaddict says:

    Caroline’s costume


  16. Ann says:

    Lynn another great blog. My thoughts on Camille are not good. She comes off insincere and braggy. Every single conversation is exploiting Kellsy’s money. Last week she made it a point to say she flew the designer in “1st class” just for one day. She brags at every chance she gets. She’s not the least bit interested in anyone’s life and manufactures situations to bring attention to herself. Don’t feel sorry for her in the least.
    Taylor is who I do feel sorry for. This girl has self esteem issues. Look what she’s done to her face! In my opinion she really believes he is the catch in this relationship and takes a subservient role in the marraige.
    Love Lisa and Kyle. They’re the real deal. What you see is what you get. Love lisa’s sense of humor and not taking the bull shlt in life seriously. She loves her husband and totally jokes about their sex life. Just adore her.
    Not sure about Adrienne yet? Kim is the sad sack, much too dependant on those children. Hopefully she warms up to these girls and sees life on the other side if being a mom. Once she let’s go a bit, she will get it. At least I hope so and she plays a more interesting role on the show.
    Overall, RHOBH is exactly why I started watching in the first place. Jill and Kelly have turned NY ugly and mean. NJ is just a joke. OC, AC and DC couldn’t care if they ever cane back.
    Happy to finally be interested again.

  17. housewifeaddict says:

    More tweets:

    Teresa has a sense of humor:

    “Saw it. Very funny. xx RT @BravoAndy What’s better than an adorable dog? AN ADORABLE DOG DRESSED AS teresa_giudice! ”

    And is still looking for people to party with:

    Come party with me from 7-9pm next Fri, Nov 5 at Giuseppe’s Pizzeria 1576 Maple Avenue, Hillside, NJ. I wanna pack the place! Free to come!
    less than a minute ago via web”

    And from Jill

    “I hear a few of you are dressing up as me this halloween. You must tweet photos! I am so flattered..( I THINK??).
    11:13 PM Oct 28th via web”

  18. housewifeaddict says:

    Here is the full Danielle twitter conversation re: Lynn,

    From Danielle:
    “@lefthandedmuse you are so right Actually It was proven that they fabricated the entire thing ~ thanks to @lynnchicago
    Thu Oct 21 2010 16:15:27 (Pacific Daylight Time) via Twitter for iPhone in reply to lefthandedmuse”

    “@daniellestaub there is no way to say that you meant that her daughter should die. That’s absurd.”
    12:25 PM Oct 21st via web

  19. housewifeaddict says:

    Manzo kids (Albie, Chris and Lauren, plus Greg? as big bird


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Poor kids! Caroline made them dress up as beloved children characters. And aren’t they all too old to be doing this? Would a young adult dress like this for a young adult party? Anyone know what Dina is dressing like????

  20. Waxdiva says:

    There is some DRAAAAMAAAA going on behind the scenes at the Real Housewives of Atlanta. First off, Kim Zolciak is PREGNANT by her NFL baller BF Kroy Biermann. Read on:


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      that is beyond eewwww! guess Kim will do anything for an income source….

      • quincyil says:

        Remember the soothsayer lady in the small house that Kim took some of the girls to visit. She told Kim should would have a boy in the next couple of years. I guess she was right.

  21. TrueLifeDiva says:

    I’m so jaded by all the multiple HouseWives shows, but reading your comments have me reconsidering BH. I won’t set my DVR, but I will peak at the reruns while folding the laundry.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Take a look. It’s so much better than some of the other shows.

    • karrylyn says:

      Me too…Jaded and I was sad that a once favorite show, was bastardized over and over again…and by its own network!
      but…I think they so far, have hit it out of the park with these ladies.
      Even their husbands are fun, and just seeing how they live, and handle different life issues, is interesting.
      They are, even the least, better than any of the other ones we’ve come to loathe…
      the BH gals are fun, funny, and dont slap each other!
      They are actually….hilarious! some mean to be funny, and others are just hilarious and dont quite realize it… But None of them are past redemption.
      they speak of whats gone on and its all so “calm” but real and yet not mean.
      its a New Type of RH…the Jaded feeling has lifted for me!
      If Bravo had done DC and then I quit….well, I would have always had this sour stomach feeling….but BH ladies, made it fun again! and..MORE FUN than its ever been, in my opinion..
      but hey, each to our own…Jaded no longer, Karrylin

  22. LynnNChicago says:

    Happy Anniversary to Wall St Lady! Enjoy your day!

  23. American Idiot says:

    I’ve been without internet service (again) most of the weekend so far. Happy Anniversary WSL and WSM. Hope it was happy; seems like it was. So nice to connect with old friends.

    Lynn, thanks for new blogs, and guest bloggers thank you as well. Some fun reads here.

    Happy birthday T (belated)

    I am really enjoying HWBH. It should be interesting to see what develops.

    I have alot of catching up to do, plus two very important college apps with my son, so Happy Halloween everyone. Take care and enjoy. I pray my internet hold up the rest of today.

    Also a quick thank you to everyone who posts links to pictures and articles on here. I try to get to most of them. Alot of interesting stuff out there.

  24. Wall St Lady says:

    TEB &
    OneMoreInBoston on October 31, 2010 at 8:32 am
    Thank u !

    WSM & I constantly talk about when we leave NYC.
    The opportunity for community is difficult in NYC & I have missed having a community. In NYC
    no one would Dare “drop By” to visit.U must make a date at week in advance at least. Apartments here r like living on boats ;no excess storage & u can’t have an extra chair.
    Most activities revolve around restaurants. The churches have little space to gather outside the sanctuary. And last NYC is very transient. All my best friends have moved back home.
    I am a PEOPLE person & I talk to every cab driver,doorman & elevator passenger I ride with
    (all r captive audiences poor things)U really r not supposed to do that but folks think I am a Southerner who doesn’t know any better. I am just curious & love to interact w/Gods marvelous creations.
    I started to tear up when I was sharing the good wishes from LynnFam w/WSM. I realized how the LynnFam had filled a lonely void for community I have had; cuz I now only have a professional community in NYC.

    U guys r my girlfriends just like in high school except we r women & men w/years of experience to share.

    We have the
    Moody one,the brain,the feisty,the smartellic,the taunter,the jokster,
    the grumpy one,the bitchy one,the prom queen,the big boobie one we are all envious of,the artist ,the religious one,the atheist,the angry one,the insecure one, the needy one,the jock,the sensitive writer,the one from an abusive home, the RICH to the poor. U get my drift.
    We need all the personalities to make a whole. After 3-4 years of Hi School you r a class that identifies w/each other in the bond of The Class.

    We r the 1st LynnFam community, class of 2010.
    I love us all ; it is a blast knowing each of u !

    • Waxdiva says:

      Dear WSL: How kind of you to write so expressively of all here. I am like you in that I speak to everyone… it makes me wonder why some people look at you like you’re a total idiot when all you are doing is making small talk. I love it when others start a conversation, even if it’s to say “Good Morning.” My daughter lived in NYC for 11 years, so I know the dilemma you’ve experienced. NYC is an uncomparable city and you’re so lucky that you live there, but I’m sure it’s a relief to you when you get back to the South. Thank you for being here, WSL!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      sending both you and WSM love!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Very thougthful WSL and so you to put it in a great perspective! Communitites are people not places. This community has unity – we come together when we can and we share whatever we have. We have good days and bad days and we can always agree to disagree. So thank you to each and everyone of you (those who lurk included) – LynnFam Community!

    • quincyil says:

      My grandmother could make a life long friend at a Chicago bus stop. I like all kinds of people. I love to smile and when I walk I wave at every vehicle.

      There are lots of people who don’t like me, but I try to find something that I like in everyone. It may be their taste in shoes. rotfl…but there is always something.

    • cusi77 says:

      WSL_ I have the same kind of feelings about this Great Community Lynn has created and I feel so thankful for having met people like you ALL! *Love*

      • quincyil says:

        This is 1 billion times better than high school though. Everyone, including our youngest members are adults. High school students haven’t found their paths in life. We took the forks in the road and came out knowing who we are and who we really want to be. I am so happy when something good happens to the people here. My heart breaks when someone is suffering. High school girls don’t feel the depths that adult women can and do feel. I think they call is wisdom.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          or menapause.
          I’m kidding!

          • quincyil says:

            Actually, after that whole hormone thing, I calmed down a lot. Ramona is on that roller coaster and I bet her doctor friends will be giving her hormones to keep that youthful glow, but my daughter’s Brown/Harvard doctor friends told their mothers that we had to go it on our own. No steriods. Apparently, women have been going through menopause for thousands of years and it’s a normal thing..if you lived long enough to have the experience.

  25. housewifeaddict says:

    Here’s an interesting tidbit from an interview with Camille and Kelsey many years ago:

    H: Clearly, it does work; you’ve been together for 10 years! How did you two meet?
    CG: We met on a blind date set up by his agent. I thought I was just going to dinner with friends, which I’m thankful for because I probably would have been too intimidated. I’m really kind of shy. But Kelsey was lovely, different than I expected…very soft spoken, very open. He was refreshing. On our third date we spent the day walking around New York City and wandered into St. Patrick’s Cathedral and watched a wedding that was taking place there. At one point Kelsey looked at me and said, “Are you thinking what I’m thinking?” I told him I was, but I didn’t think he wanted to get married again. He told me he believed in love, in starting anew. This month marks 10 years that we’ve been together.

    KG: I finally got it right with Camille. Third time’s the charm.

    full link to a word doc – but no idea what it was used for – here:


    • Kansas Girl says:

      LOL! Apparently he really does believe in starting anew. Again and again.

      • quincyil says:

        There was no reason to leave Camille. She looks fine and she wanted to be a good wife. Kelsey Grammer can’t connect on a deep level with anyone. When the reruns come. Look at how he acts with his children. I say “acts” because he’s acting the part of the loving dad.

        I wonder if he did anything for the other childen from other wives and girl friends. I bet not. I think these kids will be forgotten too. It’s sad. Sell your soul to the devil and you may have money, but you won’t have your soul.

  26. housewifeaddict says:

    And here’s a link explaining why the Grammers used a surrogate. It’s actually a pretty sweet article, and while I don’t like Camille at all so far as she is completely self-absorbed, it does seem that her IBS is very serious, and that may also explain the need for round the clock nannies. I suppose what’s the difference between a 24 hour nanny and 4 nannies, except that with 4 you’re not taking as much advantage of them.


    • Waxdiva says:

      It is a personal decision that people with IBS make re pregnancy. Many people with IBS carried their child with no effects from having IBS; some others say that their IBS worsened, but otherwise made it through. Great for Camille to have had the financial fortune to have the option to hire a surrogate. I’ve also read that Camille chose that route to preserve her body.

    • error404 says:

      should I feel bad for immediately thinking that Camille and Michaele have the same doctor?

      • OneMoreInBoston says:


      • Adgirl says:

        That’s pretty funny. But if Camille need a medical excuse for hiring surrogates couldn’t she find something sexier than IBS? Maybe all the good diseases were taken.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Michaela is a pathological liar who never pays her bills, and has had a destructive affect on other people’s lives (ie white house staff). As much as I’m not feeling much sympathy or empathy with Camille, I don’t think she’s carefully constructed a lie about IBS over the last 5 years. Yes – perhaps she used it as an excuse for using a surrogate, but so many stars have babies and keep their figures, I can’t believe that was all there was to it.

        • error404 says:

          we don’t know either woman, we’ve just had more time to catch MS in more lies, that’s all.

          Both are dreadful diseases and we have no way of knowing if either woman has either disease. Both could also be BS ways of covering up eating disorders.

    • twoile says:

      I am under the impression that alcohol is not good for ppl w/IBS & C certainly jugged it down at the LV visit.

  27. AZ Girl says:

    Happy Anniversary WSL and WSM from sunny AZ. Really sunny AZ. High is 81 today. Wishing a Happy Birthday today to Quincy’s son.
    Happy Halloween Everyone!!!!

    • quincyil says:

      He already had chocolate cake, but there is plenty for all of the board. Everyone is welcome to this large Lynn Hudson family Halloween Festival. I think we are having that Chicago style pizza that we discussed a while back. The Salahis didn’t donate any Oasis wine, but I bet there are some Skinny girl margaritas in the cooler right now.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        They ran out again, huh? Well it is SO very popular, what with being made out of supermarket grapes and all…

        • AZ Girl says:

          Just got back in time for the party. Went to the botanical gardens to celebrate Dio de los Muertos. Great music in the garden. Now time to pass out candy. Glad your family had a great celebration.

  28. Wall St Lady says:

    Am idiot & Kansas Girl.
    Thanks for the Happy wish !

    Who has little monsters going out in costume to night ?
    What r they dressing as ?
    Tell Tell !

    I dressed as Wonder Woman
    For years. WSM dressed as Zoro.

    • American Idiot says:

      Daughter and her boyfriend going as Any Warhol and his muse. They are in NYC in college, so they go to the parade first then here and there. She has a midterm tomorrow, so not too much here and there I hope. Son, at 17, has no interest in costumes. He never liked Halloween much.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Unfortunately my village has set hours for Trick or Treat and they are from 1-5pm which really takes the fun/fantasy/fright out of the holiday! My 12 year old is heading to a friend’s for a preHalloween party with TorT at 6pm til 8pm. He is a gangster (old school) and looks quite cool in a fedora!

  29. Adgirl says:

    Haven’t we all known a Camille??
    The girl who gloms onto your boyfriend or brother. Poor her, she has no girlfriends. The girls are all mean and jealous.
    She is the girl you avoid telling personal information to because somehow just the wrong person finds out. If you like a boy “presto” that is who she she is hanging out with!
    Run ladies!

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I roomed with one in college. She said she was real shy and never dated. Thought my guy was the funniest person on earth. When the gang would come over to play cards, sitting on the floor (those were the days when the floor was an option!), she’d get to laughing so hard, she’d end up with her head in his lap. Face down. She named a teddy bear for him and carefully kissed and tucked that bear in every night.

      You can imagine how eagerly I wanted that rental contract to end.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      We see them and we run the other way!

  30. Adgirl says:

    Adrienne is worth 300 million according to celebritynetworth.

    So, even if her husband is the most successful plastic surgeon in LA it’s nothing compared to her. She seems a little bored with her relationship.

    • quincyil says:

      She dines with Obama and has all of that money. She may just be a bored person. On her first date with Paul, she half cooks a frozen chicken breast and reads a book? I think she might be a little boring herself.

  31. Adgirl says:

    I’ll bet Taylor’s husband was alot better looking 10 years ago.
    I’m married to a nerd too. Personally I love them, very interesting to talk with. They can be hard to get close to – but I don’t think rubberizing your face it the route.

    I watched him interrupt Taylor and take her away from the concert after party – that is exactly the ham handed way my husband would try to make up couples time with me. In the middle of my being busy, all of a sudden my husband would be motivated to have a romantic dinner. Nerds are backwards socially.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      My issue with Taylor and her hubby is how scared she is of him, and of him leaving her. It’s just sick to watch someone live like that. And the idea that he wants some sort of plastic trophy wife and she’s forcing herself to be that – even though I think we can all agree that she has made herself pretty hideous with those lips.

      But is it that different from Kelsey – Camille was probably quite a pretty girl before all the botox and surgery – and what did it get her.

      • karrylyn says:

        memory problem….I cannot remember Taylor mentioning her husband being responsible for those LIPS. Or wanting her to get them. Her nickname is FishLips. She seemed to like the name when she showed what she could do with them in the RH’s first show with Andy.
        Just wondering, its such a curiosity to me. why that big? her choice, his choice, by birth, an accident?
        perhaps her naturally wide mouth, had very thin lips and she looked weak chinned?
        She is pretty, behind the lips….maybe thats it? its a screen of how she really sees herself? Or maybe in BH, she is just another pretty blonde woman, if she doesnt have those lips?
        I, being thin lipped myself…am one that understands the desire for a bit more lip to balance out the face, but her lips are way out of balance!
        So, I cannot remember…does she want them, or does he?
        or we dont know yet?
        Love this blog!!!!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      lol – I have a nerd husband too! Knew it from our first date but he is a good guy, a great husband and actively helps raise our children. And I laugh to this day when he tells me he still can’t believe a beautiful, intelligent woman wanted to have a relationship with him!!

  32. Wall St Lady says:

    Hey WaxDiva
    For some reason I thought u were single & in ur 30’s. U have such a youthful wit. U also r so knowledgeable of “with it” stuff. U have a grown daughter , wow.

    • Waxdiva says:

      Interesting how we imagine one another. After seeing your photo, I imagined you differently… more like Suze Orman, but you actually look more like Elizabeth Taylor (you’re gor-ge-ous!). My daughter is it… just one. In May, she and her boyfriend unexpectedly and suddenly left NYC to move back home. My therapist says that she’s ‘nesting.’ I was shocked because she loves NYC …she went to school and made her life there, but I am sooooo happy that she and her boyfriend are close by. And, I’m not single… I’m on my second marriage; he’s an attorney. So, that is a thumbnail outline of moi. Oh, I have a dog and his photo is posted.

  33. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Leaves are all raked up, pumpkin is carved, candy in a bowl and ready. No tricks this year—only Treats! I am so excited about my pumpkin. I am just not crafty at all, but I decided to try and make a cat face on my pumpkin this year and it actualy looks like a cat! I lit it up last night to see it after I finished and even my hubs and FIL came in and said it looked great–I didn’t tell them I was doing a cat and they both immediately knew what it was supposed to be so that is a good sign! I love handing out the candy–all the costumes and friends you don’t see on a regular basis coming by! I am about to make my famous halloween brownies for the older kids and put the cider and cinnamon in the crock pot on low so we will be all ready on this end! Anybody else care to share their Halloween ritual?

    • KellitaM says:

      We always have chili in the slowcooker on Halloween.
      My husband takes our 8yo Trick or Treating while I give out the candy.
      Later in the evening, I try to talk one of our teens into watching a classic scary movie with me, like “Halloween.” It’s the one night a year I watch scary. My husband’s too chicken to watch with me. So if my teens aren’t interested, I’ll snuggle up with the dog.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      We decorate the front porch – cobwebs, skeletons, pumpkins, and spiders/bats hanging down from the roof. In past, dry ice for fog and tombstones along the walk with scary music.
      Chili and a creepy birthday cake (it’s MIL’s birthday) is always the supper of choice! And I always buy candy I DON’T like so I won’t be tempted to eat any leftovers….

  34. TheDesignDiva says:

    Happy Bee days to all who celebrated LIFE this month…
    Happy Anniver..to all who have celebrated LIFE with someone else….
    Happy Hallowienie to all……..
    No traditions this year.. I have the night shift at burger barn..UGH…miss seeing all the “little” ones all dressed up.Hopefully some will come by for a BITE before they get all sugared up…One can hope…
    Good week to All
    Hugs and Peace


  35. Wall St Lady says:

    AZ Girl Thanks. I finally learned what AZ meant. I feel pretty dumb ; it was so easy !
    R u a native ?

    • AZ Girl says:

      Been here for 33 years. In AZ that is almost considered being a native. Things have changed since I first arrived to go to ASU.

  36. Wall St Lady says:

    housewifeaddict on October 31
    2010 at 9:18 am
    Teresa is the “teflon Ape”.
    She takes it as a compliment that a dog is dressed like her.
    She is flattered that she is a Halloween costume. She thinks she is Obama or Marilyn Monroe.
    This is a very calculating person who refuses to acknowledge failure. If she won’t acknowledge a problem she can’t be part of a solution. I believe her behavior will just get worse. I don’t think she will lose it when she fails because her sick mind won’t acknowledge ANY failure.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And all those around her will suffer for it!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Or WSL- that when failure hits her squarely in the face it will cause such an irrevocable breakdown that she will do something drastic- like suicide. (or murder- hide Danielle!)

      After the tabloid printing of her husbands sexcapades, and the rumor of Tara coming up AGAIN (seriously, is she spreading it as a red herring, or is it true?) the possibility of jail if convicted of lying in the bankruptcy case, the speculation of Bravo firing her ass- she’s not in a good place right now.

      Maybe that’s what Bravo has planned for her: A giant mea culpa to seek the public’s redemption to turn into the hero of our story again.

      But both her and any of the other crazies, (Jill, KKB, Vickie) all have such a tin ear when it comes to the public response to their antics., that she will probably blow it.

    • karrylyn says:

      “Never let em’ see you sweat”
      is an old saying..and T is living by it.
      well, surviving…
      well, she wont let us see her sweat!
      I’d admire her if she said Yes…wow, I messed up and thank God for Bravo so I could see my mistakes! I love my family and we are working on our character and taking care of the many issues we’ve gotten ourselves into.
      If we hadnt joined the show, we might have crashed and burned before we had time to change the way we have been doing things!! thanks Bravo Fans!
      thanks for the grace, and we appreciate prayers, and good thoughts while we go through this time of introspection and begin to live anew!
      If Teresa and Juicy Joe said something like that…even remotely like that…
      they’d have their OWN freaking Reality Show…
      Money experts show up, Child shrinks come to visit and teach parenting…
      etc etc
      they could have come out smelling like roses…one day.
      ah….I’m dreaming, maybe.
      I just wished it had been so, but perhaps you are so right. they are unable to acknowledge failure.
      that is sad, for them, and especially the kids….
      They still have time to look inside their hearts…
      I know we have all done stupid things..and admitted it to ourselves and a few friends…
      but she made mistakes on TV…so admit it to her TV friends and get a show and a new life!!!!

      • RubyNewbie says:

        You’re right. Admitting their problems could lead to new avenues of income–that alone ought to appeal to the needy greedy Giudices! They might even learn something. Everybody knows the real deal anyway. Might as well come clean and shop around a new reality show. Kate Gosselin was making 7 figures even before her marriage imploded. The Giudices together could at least negotiate with some network for 1 mil–half a mil a piece.

  37. housewifeaddict says:

    Hmmm – more (or less) from Caroline & her tweets:

    From a fan:
    “@CarolineManzo You keep saying that. What does that mean, Caroline? Inquiring minds want to know. :-)”

    Response from Caroline:
    @——— haha……. lips are sealed……… ;0)

    Presumably in response to this earlier tweet from Caroline:

    “What a day, what a day, what a day…………..like I said, the winds of change are blowing……..”
    about 11 hours ago via Facebook

    and this one
    “The winds of change are blowing…..”
    about 23 hours ago via TwitBird

    All this from a woman who rarely tweets.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      And this from Lauren Manzo last night:

      “Sooo here’s the big news….just kidding! I can’t tell u! You’ll all find out sooner or later! 😉
      about 11 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone”

    • housewifeaddict says:

      And from Albie around the same time

      “Very big day…”
      about 9 hours ago via Twittelator

      What in the world is going on – we needs our Trolls today to help fill in the blanks LOL

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      Real City Housewife/Put Your Hair Up had a funny response to Caroline’s tweet. LOL

      PutYourHairUp: Shuuut uuup w the cryptic msgs.Some1 wants attention RT: @CarolineManzo What a day, what a day..like I said, the winds of change are blowing

  38. Dani says:

    I don’t think that Kyle said any such thing to Camille about Kelsy not being in Hi. with her. I think Camille heard what she wanted to hear, because, she realizes the only reason she is on this show is because of Kelsy Grammar. She is to into herself and I don’t care for her at all. She reminds me of the reason that I Hate Jill Zarin.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      There was some gossip (in the Enquirer so take it with a grain of salt) that Camille hooked up with a 20 year old on that Hawaii trip, and brought him back to LA as her boy toy – but that was before the news of Kelsey and his new girlfriend broke and the story died. But one wonders if Camille is a tad too defensive. I’ve got to say, Kelsey was not a great catch as a hubby – substance abuse, whoring around, kinda a mess.

      • Dani says:

        It would not surprise me if she hooked up with a 20 year old. You could tell on the last episode that she was starving for attention from a man any man or boy lol. I will have to see if I can find an article in regards to her boy toy.

      • Waxdiva says:

        OT: Why does everyone deny The Enquirer? I myself subscribe to it and read it every week… it’s just funny that by admitting that, you’re thought of as trailer park white trash. I subscribe to the Enquirer… along with NY, NewYorker, Private Aviation, BlackBook, W, EW, People,RobbReport, Bloomberg, Luxe, ArchDigest, blah, blah, blah. It’s like asking people now if they voted for Obama… you know they did, but no one will admit it. Just needed to vent about the Enquirer.. OK, I’m done!

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          When I first started my medspa, my investors were HORRIFIED that I put out the National Enquirer in the waiting room for patients.

          Yet week after week what is the one magazine that gets ripped off? You named it.

          It’s so bad my receptionist has to keep it behind the desk. And I think now SHE is ripping it off! LOL

          • quincyil says:

            I believe that aliens from other planets are here on Earth. I think they are trolls and twitter warriors.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              Do they actually type, or use their minds? Like a matrix type thing going on…

              • quincyil says:

                They ooze into your computer and ooze out. Mine travel from a satellite called Huges network.

                I think that we are going to eventually explore the universe mentally rather than physically. Our computers will be light that moves more at warp speed. We will feel that we are there, but our bodies will be here on Earth. Would you believe that I actually think about these things?

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                yes I believe you actually think about these things.
                maybe someday you will expound on these very out there, but oh so interesting ideas.

  39. lillybee says:

    Happy Birthday and Anniversay to all. Please enjoy your day.

  40. vilzvet says:

    A very Happy Anniversary to you WS Lady! Are you here in NY or in NC this weekend?
    I spent a wonderful weekend in Salem and Boston, boy was that the place to be the day before Halloween! It felt like NYC with the streets packed with costumed revelers. Salem is a quaint port town with tons of gorgeous old Victorians and of course ancient (for the US!) history. We really enjoyed the House of Seven Gables and learning all about how the “witches” were unfairly persecuted back in 1692. Boston was WAY too short, only a couple of hours. We did some power shopping. Making Sandra Lee’s pear and cherry buckle in the slow cooker while I answer the trick or treaters. The house should smell heavenly soon. I no longer get to walk around escorting kids, they’re all on their own, sigh. Have a great day everybody!

  41. WindyCityWondering says:

    Bravo finally put together a franchise that has it all – BH has personalities, money, drama and looks! We have everything we love to snark about. We have those so easy to hate, to root for and to wonder about. We have plastic vs plastic. We have $1,000 Easter Bunnies too! Unfortunately, I am sitting here waiting for it to fall apart – how jaded is that?

  42. TEB says:

    My 3.5 year old is dressing up as Little Bo Peep and my 1.5yr old is a 50’s bandstand girl (complete with the poodle on the skirt). My girls don’t eat a lot of candy (husband is Type 1 diabetic) so tonight should be quite interesting since it’s the first year they will be able to ring doorbell and say Trick or Treat! Something tells me I will tear up…the sap that I am.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


    • quincyil says:

      Have fun with the kids!

    • karrylyn says:

      TEB, I feel like tearing up reading your comment! two adorable little girls and in such cute costume choices! OMG, hope you get pictures!
      you are a wise mama…not too much sugar, they are having just as much fun I bet, going door to door! you are not a sap…the first trick or treat…is for sure, tears that just about make your heart burst with joy and love over the blessing you’ve been given!

  43. housewifeaddict says:

    Snark – from April of this year


    Here’s the text, but the picture is worth a look LOL:

    “You know that thin line between sexy and prostitute? Kelsey Grammer’s wife Camille Donatacci just crossed it. Hot pink high heels, a tight black dress, and major cleavage makes her look like she’s ready to earn some money.

    Camille showed off her look at “La Cage Aux Folles” broadway show opening in New York City last night. Her husband plays a nightclub owner in the production.

    Kelsey left his family behind in Hawaii when he landed the role because he couldn’t balance fatherhood with his grueling rehearsal schedule. He explained, “To be quite honest, up front I said I won’t be able to be good at the two things at the same time – rehearsing a show like this and being dad – so they were all quite lovely and went to Hawaii.””

    Wow – so he expressly told them not to go to NY with him. Probably because he had a little something something on the side already.

    • Dawn says:

      That says a lot about Mr. Grammar. More in keeping with the things I’d read in the past when he was dating a stripper named LeeAnn.

    • karrylyn says:

      Balance Fatherhood?
      what a jerk! Plenty of other actors balance Broadway and families, but I guess having the girlfriend added to Broadway and Family makes it too much….not his kids!

      • TrillianAlice says:

        I am really starting to feel sorry for Camille. He has left her and the kids behind many times, it seems. No wonder she acts the way she does. Still, she is not dancing around my husband. : )

  44. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    I have to say that I am loving RHOBH. Jill needs to take lessons from Adrienne. She needs to see that you can do things for your friends yet not expect anything in return. Adrienne has money, uses that money, but is not obnoxious about her money. Lisa also has a lot of money but she’s just as giving. I like Lisa. She’s completely Beverly Hills even though she’s from the UK i.e little dog, glitz and glam. Kyle is another that I like. It’s so refreshing to see a husband and wife laughing together. Plus, I got to loving Mauricio even more after he told of how they met and fell in love.

    Kim, Camille and Taylor are on the other side of the list. I am single and have a son yet my life doesn’t revolve around him. I go to lunch with friends, have my own hobbies and live my own life. Kim is kind of sad because she is in no way comfortable in her own skin. Camille is just desperate and kind of sleazy. She can dress up, but the sleaze is just under the surface. Taylor…I’m slightly undecided. She seems slightly desperate with her husband. If my ex wanted to leave a party yet we were staying at the hotel I’d say “bye, see you later”.

  45. housewifeaddict says:

    This is just mean – and I hesitated before posting the link because I truly adore Bethenny. However, some of the comments are pretty interesting – trolls (JZ # 14) maybe??

    PS – they do actually compare a lot of celeb picts to SAW not just the lovely B


    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Alright that’s IT!!! I am notifying the bullying authorities and you will have to answer to Jill Zarin on Monday morning! be afwaid! be vewy vewy afwaid ! LOL

      That’s actually an interesting question, if Bethanny was bullied would Jill actually respond?

  46. error404 says:

    our Glee recap vlog


    hope you enjoy!

  47. OneMoreInBoston says:


    I just enjoy saying it.


    And I’m going to say it about 40 times today.

    Because I can.

    Because I’m “Boughetto”

  48. housewifeaddict says:


    Waxdiva says:
    October 31, 2010 at 10:53 am
    There is some DRAAAAMAAAA going on behind the scenes at the Real Housewives of Atlanta. First off, Kim Zolciak is PREGNANT by her NFL baller BF Kroy Biermann. Read on:


    And this from our own Kim Z via twitter:
    “Media Takeout u mean Fakeout! How disgusting is ur story!
    about 4 hours ago via ÜberTwitter”

    Seriously – who do they have as sources for these articles. Ick.

  49. Wall St Lady says:

    NEWARK, NJ., Oct. 31 (TOTI) —
    Not only has she been in the headlines lately about the drama that has ensued with her husband and his cheating ways, but now sources are saying that Theresa Guidice is in danger of being fired from the popular reality TV show The Real Housewives of New Jersey.

    With her recent financial troubles, the TV show is the only thing that is going to keep her going when it comes to maintaining her financial status – but all of that could be in jeopardy as she has been warned about her behavior and rumors that are flying around.

    A recent tabloid article showed that not only are Theresa and Joe Guidice in big financial trouble, but it looks like Joe has been a busy guy on the side

    • dells bells says:

      “..warned about her behavior”?

      Was Teresa ever warned about her behavior after she chased Danielle through the halls of the NJCC last year?

      If the warning was about the recent christening debacle, I would say it’s a little too late. Bravo has already created their monster.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        The table flip should have been her first warning. The country club riot should have been the second warning. The obscene behavior at the reunion should have been her firing. And the christening party should have never happened! Toast the bitch!

  50. housewifeaddict says:
  51. Wall St Lady says:

    Maybe the Manzo news is that Teresa is being fired. That would b a Way out for the Manzo tribe. Caroline ‘s pride forced her to never admit Ape woman was a skanky thief. If Teresa is gone Caroline won’t have to “cover” someone she now knows (but won’t admit)doesn’t deserve to be in the “thick as thieves”

    • housewifeaddict says:

      How can she be fired if she refuses to sign a contract. I do think (hope) this is bye bye for T and the housewives franchise. But I’m wondering if they’ll keep her relatives, or recast and start filming again. Please, please, please let the news NOT be that Dina is back.

      • quincyil says:

        Oh, my… That’s it. Dina is back…That’s why the Manzos are all chiming in. Dina….

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          omg- she left because she said it’s me or Danielle… Danielle is gone, so…

          just as I predicted. If Danielle leaves, might as well rename it “The Grandma Wrinkles Show”

          Explains why Dina had her knickers in a knot about Project LadyBug finances.

          • dells bells says:

            I thought Bravo wouldn’t let Dina back unless Lexi was allowed to be filmed?
            I guess anything is possible.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              maybe she got the ex to agree?

              Or they are paying LEXI and that’s why Teresa’s panties are in a bunch because her kids aren’t getting paid!

              • Waxdiva says:

                Boston: I think you may be right… it makes sense! Tree’s balloon is going to pop if she’s out of RHONJ. Everything she does is tied to her being on the show and when she isn’t on any longer, there goes her other ‘small businesses.’

  52. Wall St Lady says:

    I am in Raleigh. Winston Salem where the Salem Witch Trials occurred has got to b the best place in the US.
    Did you have a Moravian sugar cake made with potatoe buds & brown sugar or the paper thin ginger cookies. Both recipes go back to the witch trial days !
    We also have hot apple cider this time of year.
    We also serve hot Dr.Pepper !

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I think she meant Salem MA, because she was also in Boston.

      • quincyil says:

        The witch trials were in Massachusetts.


        The Puritans were excommunicated from Europe for good reasons.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          Although I would like to try some Hot Dr. Pepper…

        • quincyil says:

          from European Churches….

          This country was founded by people desiring religious freedom, but just about every group wanted to impose their religion on their neighbors. You need strong laws like our Bill of Rights to keep your next door neighbor in check if you ask me.

          • Raquel Papel says:

            I was just in Salem last Monday. I saw a reenactment of the witch trials it was very upsetting. the puritans remind me of some of the people I talk to today.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              it IS upsetting isn’t it? I really resent the whole carnival type atmosphere that just makes light of these people’s death.

              It’s like having an amusement park built at the Holocaust Museum.

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                I am a direct descendent of the guy that founded Charlestown, MA and Lynn, MA.

                We get together for family reunions- and talk history. Big fun.

                He came over on the same ship with Cotton Mather. These were not hi jinks kind of people.

                he ended up marrying a woman who was from the NY Dutch. Her family had been here much longer.

                Interesting story: her maiden name was Sckank. My fiance’s mother’s maiden name was Hoar.

                If we had kids they would have been Skank/Hoars.


              • quincyil says:

                I read a book on the young girls years ago. The young girls were brought up in a cult like atmosphere.

                There were witch trials in Europe for centuries too. I thought that St. Thomas Moore who killed people for Henry the Eight and was made a saint in the Catholic Church was awful because he tortured people to death in the name of the Catholic Religion. I’m Catholic…btw In Moore’s book, “Utopia,” each household has two slaves. I guess it wasn’t Utopia for everyone on that island.

            • boston02127 says:

              I use to be terrified of going there when I was younger.

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                there’s a lot of weird energy there.
                You can feel it too. Almost like it lifts your hair up off of your head. like a breeze.

              • Raquel Papel says:

                It is an odd place and interesting history one more. I grew up in Lowell, MA so I know the areas you were talking about. I had not been in Salem since I was a kid, but even w. the circus like attractions, it did not take away the sadness and injustice of it all to me.

          • vilzvet says:

            LOL, Lady, yes it was Salem in Mass. not Winston-Salem, and I did have a hot apple cider this weekend but it was from Dunkin Donuts! Boy is that good.

          • lillybee says:

            If I remember my history correctly, the Quakers in Penn were tolerant of all.

            • quincyil says:

              They still are. We have Quakers in Quincy too. President Nixon was a Quaker. Hard to believe that , right?

  53. Wall St Lady says:

    Scorpiosue1102 on October 31, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    Hi !
    So glad to see you. Be sure to check in Tuesday.
    How many years young will u b.
    U don’t have to answer.
    I subscribe to a wonderful quote from
    Oscar Wilde :
    “A woman who will tell her age,

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Hi WSL! I’ll be 41 years old. What did Indiana Jones say, “It’s not the years, it’s the mileage.” 🙂

  54. Adgirl says:

    OMG how delicious would it be if Teresa was let go of RHNJ?
    If it’s true, and she was “warned” by Bravo about something I am going to guess the issues that would push Bravo over the edge would be:
    1. Lying on court docs.
    2. Physical abuse or fist fights (the baptism)
    3. Encouraging projects not approved by Bravo (isn’t that what got Danielle canned?)

    I picked these because for real, Bravo does not care about the diva drama unless it could be potentially a legal liability (violence, lying in court) or undermines Bravo’s hold on the talent (signing contracts in conflict with Bravo).

  55. boston02127 says:

    Gretchen Rossi and Slade Smiley: The Next Tori and Dean?

    Here we go again. Another Real Housewife demanding their own show. Inside sources say Gretchen Rossi and fiancé Slade Smiley have demanded their own show from Bravo. Of course, Bravo has turned them down. Slade is putting out feelers to other networks, telling them they could be bigger than Tori and Dean, sources say.

    Let’s see, so Jill Zarin has asked for her own show, so we can watch Ginger the Chihuahua lick boogers from her nose as she tells us about her “fabulous circle of friends”; Danielle Staub couldn’t pitch a show to Bravo, she went elsewhere; Teresa Giudice wants her own show, in fact sent out rumors that she’d get her show, only to be turned down.

    The problem with all of them, no real storylines. Some of them are congenitally unable to tell the truth, and can’t carry a show without an ensemble. Why they don’t know that is a mystery.

    In the case of Gretchen and Slade, Gretchen is no Bethenny Frankel. Bethenny is not a dilettante, dabbling in this and that . First there was the makeup line, now there’s the handbags, which sources say bombed on ShopNBC. I watched some of the show, Gretchen said red carpet 500 times. And the host was fighting to keep her face straight. None of her enterprises have been successful. Then there’s Jay Photoglou, the guy Gretchen was dating when she was engaged to the late Jeff Beitzel. The scandal never goes away. And Slade is no Jason Hoppy. Jason is stable, Slade Smiley is more likely to have a stable (of females). He’s been trying to be an actor for years, remember “Date My Ex” the short lived show he had with Jo de la Rosa? Those are minutes I can never get back. He seems to want to hitch his wagon to a star by manipulating vulnerable females….Gretchen seems caught up in the momentum. Now they are getting married after a “made for TV’ engagement during the taping of the Season 6 finale show. Don’t know whether his recent vasectomy reversal was successful or not, they are probably trying for a baby.

    Bethenny Frankel’s story was not forced, it happened naturally, now they are trying to copy her success. Bethenny has the personality and wit to carry an hour long program. And she tells the truth, which makes people want to watch how her life unfolds. These others? Not so much.

    • quincyil says:

      It ok with me if Slade and Gretchen disappear from Bravo. I’m sure Slades next attempt to make a star out of his girl friend will succeed.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Bethenny is also really witty, and therefore interesting to watch without a lot of drama unfolding around her

  56. Wall St Lady says:

    y housewifeaddict on October 31, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    I have tried 8 Xs to open the Bethanny on TLZ site & I can’t find it.
    What is it & what does it say. U said it was kinda mean & that is unusual for B so I am dying to see it !

    • quincyil says:

      I saw it. It was two photos: one of Bethenny, the other of a clown from a slasher movie. They both had dark hair and high cheekbones. Bethenny is sometimes beautiful as she was in the meeting with Jill and the Countess at Ramonas. She was gorgeous in those shots. Then, in some photos, she looks haggard and ugly. I think they may have been taken when she was pregnant and ill.

      Bethenny probably is gorgeous in real life. Just some camera angles are bad.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      try googling “What Bethenny SAW” – but I have no idea why the link didn’t work for you – maybe your computer is blocking such an awful site LOL

      • housewifeaddict says:

        And I want to clarify – Bethenny wasn’t mean in any way – they (the site and comments) were mean to her.

        • quincyil says:

          That’s right. They were mean to Bethenny. That kind of thing is just plain old wrong. I bet their feelings would be hurt if someone did that to them.

    • boston02127 says:

      Wall St Lady—This was the pic they showed next to Bethenny.

  57. Wall St Lady says:

    God did they lie to me Again ! (Like when they told me All Yankees were bad)
    I have to figure out WHY I always thought we had witches too.
    Winston has head locks in the town square.
    Maybe we has jr witches ?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      LOL- well, all Yankees are bad. If they play baseball.

      I jest, I jest!

      • quincyil says:

        I had some Yankee ancestors. They moved west to Ohio, then IL. The people of IL actually have New Hampshire accents. I was shocked when I met my son in law from New Hampshire and he spoke like someone from IL. I did some research and it has to do with settlement patterns in the the young USA. The people from New Hampshire moved west in groups establishing speech patterns in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Iowa. It’s a fascinating subject to research.

        • karrylyn says:

          wow, that is so cool to read! I am from Chicago actually, is that different than IL accent? that sounds silly but IL is such a long state, that I wonder if its the bottom two thirds, that sounds like New Hampshire?
          either or, thanks for that info!
          Love that kind of stuff, and love researching it.
          I’d love to know any sites you can pass on, or suggest.
          thanks! karrylin

    • quincyil says:

      I did some quick research and the Salem part of Winston Salem came from the Jewish word, “shalom.” That town was founded by members of the Moravian Church from Boehemia/Czech Republic. The came over in the 1700’s.

      No mention of witches but they probably had them.

  58. OneMoreInBoston says:

    I just looked up Old Salem in NC. It is very old- I didn’t know that. I also didn’t know that Krispy Kreme donuts were made from traditional Morovian recipes:


    Krispy Kreme…mmmm…getting hungry

    • boston02127 says:

      Yesterday I had apple cider donuts & warm apple cider. Soooo good.

    • quincyil says:

      LOL… I was trying to find out if they had witches too. LOL… great minds think alike.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        Did you find any witches? I found some that are current that meet in Winston/Salem but that’s it.

        • quincyil says:

          Nope. It’s good to know they have them now. There is a resurgence of Wickens these days. There were some on the Farscape board ten years ago. We have Amish, Mennonites, Apostolic Christians, and the original Mormans who never practiced polygamy. The Utah Morman Church used to send people to our middle school every year to teach kids how people lived in the 1840’s. They paid a lot of money to teach our children because the people of Quincy housed their ancestors twice when they were on the move from attacks in Missouri and Carthage, IL. I’m open to all religions. I guess it makes it easier to be married to a Shiite Muslim.

  59. Wall St Lady says:

    Thanks Quincy

  60. Wall St Lady says:

    The KK co started in NC. I grew up selling worm ones door to door on Sat mornings(box of doz) for my social club for a 25 cent profit per box !

    • quincyil says:

      I sold candy apples at football and basketball games for the science club. We made a fortune. Apples and worms… they go together… or not. rotfl

      • LurkerAlso says:

        Tell me more! I am from Ohio and have relatives who then moved on to Illinois (though many stayed in Ohio). Swingle clan. Love reading about speech patterns/evolution. Where did you do your research?

  61. boston02127 says:

    Well….my pretend boyfriend Tom Brady pulled it off again. Yeah Pats! 18/28

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      only reason he’s pretend is because he hasn’t met you yet.
      That whole model phase will get old soon, and then he’ll be your forever boyfriend.

      • boston02127 says:

        I touched his hand once. This was before Gisele. It wasn’t like hand holding, he was giving high 5’s. I almost squished the people in front of me to get a high five. I’m such a dork.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          Well, probably he thought the high 5 was a rejection so he raced into the arms of the first available supermodel he could find.

          It was all a big misunderstanding. you crazy kids.

      • Imseasquared says:

        And when that does happen will you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get him to cut that shaggy girl hair of his?!?!

  62. quincyil says:

    Winston Salem never had any witches.


    I think not having witch trials is a good thing.

  63. housewifeaddict says:

    This is driving me nuts:

    Albie “Very big day…
    about 9 hours ago via Twittelator”
    Chris “I wish I can tell everyone what I’m doing today…but I can’t
    about 18 hours ago via Twittelator”
    Lauren “Sooo here’s the big news….just kidding! I can’t tell u! You’ll all find out sooner or later! 😉
    about 11 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
    Long day ahead
    about 13 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone”

    The day ended with them going out in costumes – but what did they do all day that had them tweeting??? I’m beginning to think it was filming something … and not related to Teresa or Dina

  64. OneMoreInBoston says:


    MEOW Ramona Singer Tells Us: ‘The Real Housewives Don’t Really Miss’ Bethenny Frankel! Exclusive Interview!

    Bethenny’s been replaced by Cindy Barshop on Real Housewives! Will YOU miss her next season?

    Sayonara, Bethenny Frankel! Your former Real Housewives of New York City BFFs couldn’t care less that you aren’t coming back next season — they’ve replaced you with a new housewife, Completely Bare CEO Cindy Barshop!

    “You know what, we don’t really miss [Bethenny],” Ramona Singer told HollywoodLife.com exclusively Oct. 28 at Hearts of Gold ’s 14th Annual Fall Fundraising Gala in NYC. “We got enough going on, trust me.”

    Ramona, who was one of the only two housewives besides Alex McCord to attend Bethenny’s wedding back in March, said she doesn’t even see Bethenny anymore now that she’s got her own show, Bethenny Getting Married? “She’s filming now and we’re filming now, so we speak and we text, you know,” Ramona told us.

    “I miss her as a person, but it’s all going to be good [now that Cindy has joined the cast],” Ramona continued. “It’s going to be our best season ever, it really is!”

    From what we can tell, new gal Cindy has filled Bethenny’s shoes perfectly. With cameras rolling, Cindy attended the gala and mingled with the other housewives in attendance — Kelly Bensimon, Countess LuAnn de Lesseps and Jill Zarin. It looked like the gals have found their new BFF in Bethenny’s replacement!

    • quincyil says:

      Ramona is always truthful. She might hurt someone’s feelings, but that is how she sees this. Bethenny probably doesn’t care.

      • lillybee says:

        She may miss Bethanny the person but I am guessing is that she is happy that the drama is over.

    • error404 says:

      Oh dear god up in heaven, that article was so obvious! LOL

      It’s like Ramona said “I walk to the set everyday” and then they wrote “Is Ramona Singer broke? The once rich housewife was often filmed taking taxis and cars everywhere, but now she can’t even afford bus fare to get to work! Other housewives have had their marriages break up after experiencing financial troubles. When asked of her husband Mario, Singer claims that he hasn’t filmed any scenes with her yet. Hmm… expect to hear news of their divorce soon.”

      • quincyil says:

        There’s a set in a specific place now? Ramona loves exercise.

        • quincyil says:

          I bet they are filming at that spa all of the time. It must make it easier for production.

          No drama equals no ratings.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        ROFL – Ramona’s probably about to slug a reporter right about now – and on the phone to Alex saying, “Holy catballs, I just said the show will go on without her. Of course I miss my B. Jeesh – with her gone I’m forced to talk to LuLu, KooKoo, and JZ.

        But has anyone noticed in all the “they were filming” stories, JZ and LuLu are never with anyone but KooKoo and now this new gal. KooKoo has been spotted with the others, I think she was there when Ramona slugged the producer – but it’ll be another polarized – and boring – season of talking behind each other’s backs if this keeps up.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Yeah, they had to work hard to try to make a story out of absolutely nothing.

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      I don’t take Hollywoodlife. com seriously when they write about RHONY. Jill is friends with the Editor In Chief of Hollywoodlife.com, Bonnie Fuller. Jill also blogs for one of her other sites, Hollybaby. Most of the articles that I’ve read about Bethenny on that site have been negative. They are Team Jill. The first three paragraphs of the article says it all.

  65. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s tweet—Please post your halloween photos on my Facebook fan page. Contest… Most creative gets free “secrets of a Jewish Mother” t shirt. Contest ends Wednesday. I will ask housewives to help me pick! Have fun!

  66. boston02127 says:

    Well….it’s almost 8:30, time to put the lights back on.
    (I’m such a scrooge)

  67. housewifeaddict says:

    This is too funny not to share (and take note – not one mention of the poor groom, but Dwight was her wedding planner LOL):


    Super entertainment attorney and my personal hero Phaedra Parks got married last weekend in a private ceremony in Buckhead. Pictured above from right to left is Dwight Eubanks from The Real Housewives of Atlanta who served as Wedding planner/Director, the beautiful bride Phaedra Parks, Me (ATLien of StraightFromTheA.com), Tracey Baker-Simmons (TV producer-Welcome to Dreamland, Being Bobby Brown), and Ted Lucas (music mogul CEO and founder of Slip N’ Slide Records-Plies, Rick Ross, Trina & Trick Daddy).

    Phaedra is very established and well-known in the industry and you may also recognize her from her many appearances on BET’s Tiny & Toya show, where she is executive producer. The wedding party consisted of Phaedra’s best friends Kysha Cameron (V-103′s Ryan Cameron’s wife) and video vixen/exotic dancer Whyte Chocolate were the matron and maid of honor. Grammy winning producer songwriter Manuel Seal (Usher, Mariah Carey, Mary J Blige, TLC) and DJ Nabs provided the musical entertainment.

    There were also judges from every court in the state of Georgia including Lt. Gov Mark Taylor, Supreme Ct Justices Robert Benham, Carol Hunstein and Court of Appeals Judge Anne Barnes. I also spotted Mz. Shynecka and model/actress Veronica Best. My personal highlight of the day, Mrs. Shaw, who noticed I was single and spoke highly of her 43 year old son. I was intrigued and ready to go on a blind date until she dropped the bomb that her son is rapper Too $hort! That’s a story for another day but needless to say, I politely declined.

    It was a beautiful sunny day in Atlanta for a wedding and Phaedra looked AMAZING! The ceremony was dedicated to late music mogul and best friend of bride, Shakir Stewart.

    Yeah fellas….if you snooze, you LOSE! Yet another ATLien off the market. Congratulations Phaedra!

  68. fashion42 says:

    Bethenny just tweeted….

    @Bethenny That’s how I feel! Send link!RT @MayB3: @Bethenny did u see tmz has your pic side by side with the monster from SAW?

  69. quincyil says:

    Atlanta is on. I love those girls. If you have a little fat, cut it out. Excercise and diet? No way. Cigarettes, alcohol and cake.

  70. housewifeaddict says:

    Phakra can’t stand Kandi – bummer. Is that because Kandi is the real deal? And did she really just marry Apollo and have his child (well if it is his child – they were married in Nov and child was born may 24, by my count 6 months and I’m only judging because of her making a big deal about being pure and clean and all – grrr I don’t like that woman)


    Okay, if you don’t know or haven’t heard that Hip-Hop Celebrity attorney Ms. Phaedra Parks, who is known for representing and co-producing Tiny and Toya’s Bet Reality Show, is rumored to be added to The Real Housewives of Atlanta this coming season.

    The scoop is… and we got the “REAL SCOOP” here at GB.com! We were told by an insider that Ms. Parks is definitely on the show and is bringing the heat with her. Sources say that Ms. Parks can’t stand new cast mate Kandi and will be making it known on the show. This hate for Kandi has been going on for years. Ms. Phaedra “The Phoenix” Parks will be blowing the lid off of Nene and Kim’s old Stripping past. She is ready to tell what, when, where and how they stripped. It sounds like this season is going to be soooo crazy! I don’t know if Ms. Parks is really ready for what she’s about to do and if the ladies of RHOAare ready. It may just bite her in the ass, since the word in the streets is that she married a low down dirty unemployed ex-con to get on the show in the first place!

    Sources have also said that Ms. Parks has a shady past as well and is known by a lot of industry people as an “industry hoe”. She has supposedly slept with or dated most rappers we all know. Hush Yo Mouth we not sayin names! Somebody say HELL YEAH! It’s gettin hot in herrre! This part is a rumor and we have not confirmed this “industry hoe” claim.

    Well, you know karma is a bitch and I hope that if Ms. Parks’ strategy is to hurt the RHOA ladies to get a name for herself that she can handle the heat. Can she make or break the RHOA Ladies? Will the RHOA ladies unite against her and take her down? What do you think?

  71. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Happy Birthday and Happy Anniversary! Best wishes for the birthday girl and Anniversary couple!

  72. Need a Hobby says:

    Lynn: I tried but couldn’t post a comment on your blogspot blog. Saw a notification that comments on the blog were restricted to “team members,” only a member of the blog may post a comment. Hadn’t seen that before.

  73. Adgirl says:

    Phaedra had video vixen/exotic dancer Whyte Chocolate in her wedding party?
    Klassee like a Southern Belle.

  74. Wall St Lady says:

    In Bethanny’s Halloween photos ,
    she carry s the cookie more carefully than she holds Bryn.

  75. Wall St Lady says:

    How is ur family ? How is school going.
    BTW that leg grabbing comment made LOL ! I don’t think he deserves u.

    • boston02127 says:

      Good morning WSW–We’re doing ok, thank you. Today my aunt is coming over. School is good, I like it. There’s a lot more homework than HS thou.
      How was your anniversary? How many years have you been married?

  76. Wall St Lady says:

    TEB on October 31, 2010 at 2:28 pm
    Wow I didn’t realize u had 2 such young “love bugs”. Their costumes sound so cute ! Please post them if u took pictures.

  77. Adgirl says:

    No treaters tonight at our house (west coast)! Did you have any?

    • lillybee says:

      My house was dark. I didn’t want to open the door because one of the dogs is an escape artist. But still they came, rang the doorbell and kept on banging on the door.

    • lillybee says:

      It is almost 11:30 and I still have peeps banging on my door. As if , I would open the door at this time.

      • Adgirl says:

        My goodness you must have a reputation for handing our great candy! We live in the hills down a loooong driveway. No one comes here. This used to be my parent’s house – I was always disappointed that no one trick or treated us while I was a kid.

        My last house was in a suburban development. Lots of kids. We had to leave the candy bowl on a table outside because our old lady American Bulldog Spanky would nearly have a stroke when people came up to “her” door.

        • lillybee says:

          That is my problem, too, my Bichon cross is an escape artist.
          To make it worse, my greyhound has scared the local police.
          One day, an officer came to my door to ask a question about a neighbor, saw my greyhound, asked if she was a Doberman Pincher while he had his hand on his gun.
          She is a rescue and doesn’t trust men but give me a break, not all barking dogs are dobies.

  78. karrylyn says:

    Hi from me to you all on Lynnnchicago101’s blog, Lynn as well as All the people who comment, and send links and and information, lurk, and read it all the time, getting just as much joy out of this blog, as the show! Once I found the blog, I realized…how much fun the RH’s franchise really is!!! a Community of souls that “get it”, and “share it” with one another!!

    You all make my life, a little cheerier. well, alot.
    Empty nested grandmother, with no family near, or dear except my gkids and daughter, and she is too busy with her kids to watch the RH’s, or much tv at all!
    No friends, that live in my state, or watch the RH’s. No neighbors, so the RH’s have been my “guilty little pleasure” since Season One, of the OC. Then I realized it wasnt a guilty pleasure because NO ONE I know watches them!!!
    My husband, doesnt share my RH viewing pleasure!
    He thinks they are all crazy! hahahaha. yes dear…and your point is?

    This evening I read a comment about being a Community!! That was such an awesome way to describe what Lynnn has done, with this blog. Lynnn, I dont know you, but I am just assuming it is a Lynnn that puts this together, and I see a Community becoming friends, over the RH’s and I think that is spectacular!
    I bet Bravo never thought that would happen when they began with the OC!
    And I guess it wouldnt have, except for this wonderful blog and all the people that read it and contribute to it. I have never seen a blog, with such give and take, and people not becoming obnoxious to one another! Each of you are a gem to me, and lest I sound like the biggest loser and nerd around, I have been less lonely, since finding you all. thanks, and BTW…I too can speak to ANYONE. Someone mentioned that in the blog, and I am able to do that, and yet sometimes, others dont want to talk back, they’d just as soon, never connect to another human being.
    I admit this, I’ve needed this connection, even lurking has made me feel a part of something good, and fun.

    thanks to you all…and I hope to get to know you as might naturally happen in life! I’m not a stalker, but I am just feeling very greatful right now for you all, and I hope Lynnn and you all know how the banter about the RH’s has surely cut through many people’s lonliness, because if I am feeling connected to this, surely many others are as well.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thank you for your kinds words, I’m so glad that you found us! Lurk or post, whichever you feel most comfortable with..WELCOME!!

      • karrylyn says:

        Wow thanks so much LynnNChicago!
        thanks for welcoming me, and making me feel a part of something I enjoy so much!

    • American Idiot says:

      Hi Karry: Welcome! Looks like you found the right place. I, too, have watched since OC season 1. Things were very different then. I also had no one to talk to, since it was just an obscure little show that no one else was interested in. Look how far the OC ladies have come.

      Are you watching BH? I can’t seem to stay away from any of the series, although NY will always be my favorite. I am a huge Bethanny fan.

      Well, I hope you have a great experience here. I don’t post too often, but I always read. I have alot of internet service issues, so I do get behind. But that’s life right; it always something.

      Have a good day!

      • karrylyn says:

        Hi! yes, season one, OC was surely different than we now are experiencing! But, it was the beginning…
        oh yes, BH ladies are a whole new breed! Love the show, and the ladies. even the snarkiest one from BH, is in my opinion, a stop above many of the other ladies in other cities.
        Maybe not in character, but I doupt the reunion will end up like NYC and NJ last ones. Yikes…
        Yes, I also like NYC and have found it to be the most entertaining without being violent, just nasty gossip and JZ stufff and OH YES, big Bethanny Fan here too!!
        I’ve been rooting for her since we met her.

        Thanks for saying Hello!!! My day is already started out to be a good one!
        thanks, Karrylyn

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I saw some of your earlier posts and have been remiss in not welcoming you here!
      This blog gets addictive!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hi Karrylyn! Welcome and looking forward to hearing your take on the delicious divas of Bravo! None of my friends watch and this is what I needed too.

  79. Wall St Lady says:

    karrylyn on November 1, 2010 at 4:00 am
    Hi !
    U sound like a very nice person who is obviously more hip & fun than ur neighbors. U fit in here perfectly. We have lots of fun, many debates,an occasional “dust up” & always lots of LOLs. Thanks for sharing.
    I happen to b the one who started the community discussion so we already have that in common.

  80. Wall St Lady says:

    Wow karrylyn on November 1, 2010 at 4:00 am
    It is a special blessing to u when our Blog Mistress : Lynn drops down like a angel to welcome you the 1st time u post !

    • karrylyn says:

      Wise Wall Street Lady….and I do know that to be true, as I’ve read your comments and offerings for a while… : )

      Yes, I feel blessed and honored. Lynn is such a good writer and her insights into the women, are a treat! well, her insight into Life I suppose is wonderfully detailed, and the whole group from what I’ve observed, is very honoring of one another.
      I mean that in the way of Respect, and I hope the RH’s read this because they could learn a thing or two about how to treat others.
      Now, in all fairness, I’ve not been around for ever, so maybe I’m in the newness of finding others, that accept me, that all like to talk/blog about the same thing.

      I’m smiling all day! karrylyn
      ps happy belated anniversary! I thought your husband, having your bff there, sitting at the table, was such the romantic and very unique loving thing a man could do, because he KNOWS your ways. I am so happy to hear that, what a guy!

  81. Wall St Lady says:

    I asked about how ur is doing up thread. Did u answer ?

  82. Wall St Lady says:

    Ur family

  83. boston02127 says:

    Kandi Burruss Shows Off Curves in Sexy New Video

  84. quincyil says:

    These astro chicks are wrong. They aren’t jealous of Camille, they are wary. There are women like Camille all over BH. They are predators. Only a predator would kiss a friend’s husband on the lips on national tv.

    They know that Camille is on the hunt for another rich man. I’m sure they are protective of their families.

    Camille has a lot more money and youth than I have. I am not jealous of her. You couldn’t pay me to be Camille Grammer.

    • boston02127 says:

      I don’t blame them for being wary of her. The was she acted was pretty discusting to watch. I don’t think she is going to be very well liked after this show.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Silly, silly article. It is clear that Paul annoys Adrienne tremendously, but that has nothing to do with Camille. Hopefully Kyle and her hubby are as close as the camera shows them – but it is true that he’s hot and rich, and probably has a number of women throwing themselves at him. Hopefully he’s a good guy too and sticks with his family.

  85. boston02127 says:

    Well…coffee is done. I’d love to chill out all day and do nothing but I’ve got to get my butt in gear. Have a good morning everyone. 🙂

  86. quincyil says:

    So… I have been watching the commercials for the Bravo designer show. I think I will review that show too. I actually shopped at Farm and Home for a lovely bright orange sweatshirt to wear while walking in my weighted vest because deer hunting season is upon us and I’d like not to be mistaken for a deer as I walk by the forests. I got two smaller sized sweat pants for my winter work outs from Walmart because last year’s pants are too large and my physical trainer doesn’t like it when our pants fall off during exercise.

    I bought the dresses for the fancy California wedding at our Dress Barn in our mall and none of the California or NYC guests knew it because they would never be caught dead in a Dress Barn.

    With my vast knowledge of fashion, I am perfect for reviewing that Bravo show.

    I will be sending ripped jeans to WSL for our new business this week. We are selling jeans that are worn out and stained by barn paint to NYC women who want to be fashion icons. We are looking for someone in the BH, Atlanta, and OC areas to represent our new company in those cities also. Don’t worry, I have many farm families who are in great shape because of the hard work they perform in those jeans daily. The cleanest jeans will come from the milking families. Those barns are washed two times a day and the jeans will have bleach spots on them.

    So much to do…It’s hard to feed and provide clothes for those fancy city folks.

  87. quincyil says:

    Several people expressed interest in the subject of “dialects” which is the way we speak. Here’s one: http://www.pbs.org/speak/seatosea/americanvarieties/

    Google “dialects in USA” and you will find more. There are New England and Southern Dialects that moved west. After you look at the US and Canada (where Canadians sound just like Americans from New England lol,) you can go to England and see where we get our accents from different areas in that country.

    Chicagoans do have variations because of the immigrant populations. Large numbers of Irish, Polish and Germans flooded into Chicago over the years and caused changes in the Chicago accent. I grew up in Antioch, west of Waukegan, on the state line. My ancestors were the English and Irish migrating from New England so the words that I grew up with like “crick” and “spiggot” are from New England. Mark Twain also was familiar with our venacular although he grew up in the Hannibal, Mo., area. You can see our words in his books like, “The Prince and the Pauper.” He was a master of the venacular. Tennesee Williams used the Southern Vernacular, but you can see that he had an in depth knowledge of the Eastern accents too in some of his plays.

    We are our past and our future on the genetic level, our cultures and even our language. You all are going to think I am a nut because these are the thought in my mind daily. These and trolls are aliens from another planet.

    • KellitaM says:

      Thanks for sharing, Quincyil. That is is interesting. I’ve lived in the Chicago area since I was five, and I’m always amazed at the variations of Midwestern accents around. I never picked up the Midwestern twang that so many of my friends have, but then my family is originally from the east coast.

      Speaking of accents: One of my favorite RHONJ moments was when Gia, who says things like “daawg” instead of “dog,” was asked by her vocal coach where she learned her strong NJ accent, and she looked over at Teresa. 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        Sometimes President Obama has that special something while he give speeches in Black Churches, but I have been around him in Quincy while he spent a number of hours sandbagging and he spoke just like us. He has a gift for adapting his language to his audience.

        • SavingGrace357 says:

          I have a funny story to share.

          My boss who I had worked with for 10 years sheepishly asked if he could ask me a question but I had to promise not to get mad. Since I thought of him like a brother I said, sure.

          Now I am Mexican, 1st generation. Born and raised in Chicago.

          My boss asked me why I didn’t have an accent. I was SHOCKED! I said why WOULD I have an accent!

          Then he said, “Our coworker, A, has an accent and she and you are both Mexican born and raised in Chicago.

          I said, “Ahhhhh, I now understand your question. (I was no longer shocked.)

          I explained “A” was from a dominantly Mexican neighborhood of the city where some people can go their whole lives barely speaking English. She had spent her entire life in that neighborhood – never having left. She did college online, again not leaving the 18th Street Area. By age 30, “A” didn’t even realized how heavy her 18th Street accent is.

          My parents moved my family out to the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago when I was 12. My “Chickago” accent was erased and replaced with a new Suburban accent. My boss grew up in a neighboring suburb so we sound alike.

          I had to explain to him that “A” did not speak with a Mexican accent – she spoke with a Chicago -18th Street- accent. There is a big difference.

          It is interesting to see that in a City like Chicago there are various different “Chicago” accents. I love my Chicago!

          • quincyil says:

            My kids are first gen Iranian. The don’t speak the language, but all three look Iranian. My daughter went to a part in Boston and people were speaking Farsi to her. She explained that she didn’t understand and the doctor that brought her told everyone that she was a fake Iranian. Everyone thought it was funny. That is humor in the Iranian culture. I am used to it so it’s funny to me too.

  88. TEB says:

    I tried to attach a picture but it’s not working. The girls had such a great time! They loved saying “Trick or Treat!” and filling up their candy bag. I’m tired today, though. My husband is out of town the whole week and I’ve got some big meetings set up. I’m going to be one exhausted Mommy by next weekend.

  89. AZ Girl says:

    I read the People magazine article on Camille Grammer and her breakup with Kelsey. It is really sad. She supposedly did not have a clue but then here we all are watching all the obvious signs on TV that the marriage was over. It is somewhat weird in the timing of it all.

    I think that with Kelsey’s experience in TV production that he knew the breakup would make great reality TV for later viewing. That is why he talked Camille into filming the show and of course she would have source of income.

    Camille does mention that Kelsey did invite her back to NY but would not allow her to stay at their apartment. He got her a hotel suite instead. She asked him if there was someone at the apartment and he lied and said “no”. I would have been on the first plane back to LA.

    Kelsey reminds me of my father in law who is 80+ and has been married to 4 different women and married 2 of them twice. He needs to have a woman in his life all the time. Why these women marry my father in law is beyond my comprehension. Not like he has money like Kelsey which make sense to me 🙂

    I find Camille really shallow. She really has no personality at all. Her interactions with the men on the show is just creepy. Personally my favorites are Lisa and Kyle.

  90. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    According to Absurd To Sublime, Gretchen and Slade want their own show.

    Here we go again. Another Real Housewife demanding their own show. Inside sources say Gretchen Rossi and fiancé Slade Smiley have demanded their own show from Bravo. Of course, Bravo has turned them down. Slade is putting out feelers to other networks, telling them they could be bigger than Tori and Dean, sources say.

    Let’s see, so Jill Zarin has asked for her own show, so we can watch Ginger the Chihuahua lick boogers from her nose as she tells us about her “fabulous circle of friends”; Danielle Staub couldn’t pitch a show to Bravo, she went elsewhere; Teresa Giudice wants her own show, in fact sent out rumors that she’d get her show, only to be turned down.

    The problem with all of them, no real storylines. Some of them are congenitally unable to tell the truth, and can’t carry a show without an ensemble. Why they don’t know that is a mystery.

    In the case of Gretchen and Slade, Gretchen is no Bethenny Frankel. Bethenny is not a dilettante, dabbling in this and that . First there was the makeup line, now there’s the handbags, which sources say bombed on ShopNBC. I watched some of the show, Gretchen said red carpet 500 times. And the host was fighting to keep her face straight. None of her enterprises have been successful. Then there’s Jay Photoglou, the guy Gretchen was dating when she was engaged to the late Jeff Beitzel. The scandal never goes away. And Slade is no Jason Hoppy. Jason is stable, Slade Smiley is more likely to have a stable (of females). He’s been trying to be an actor for years, remember “Date My Ex” the short lived show he had with Jo de la Rosa? Those are minutes I can never get back. He seems to want to hitch his wagon to a star by manipulating vulnerable females….Gretchen seems caught up in the momentum. Now they are getting married after a “made for TV’ engagement during the taping of the Season 6 finale show. Don’t know whether his recent vasectomy reversal was successful or not, they are probably trying for a baby.

    Bethenny Frankel’s story was not forced, it happened naturally, now they are trying to copy her success. Bethenny has the personality and wit to carry an hour long program. And she tells the truth, which makes people want to watch how her life unfolds. These others? Not so much.

    Watch What Happens


  91. Waxdiva says:

    Scroll down to the end of the comments on RCH’s blog… someone left a detailed post re Dina and Tommy and RHONJ. Interesting that they posted on a blog dated 9-28-2010:


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