I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

I Hate Jill Zarin     The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Kim Richards, Child Actor

Camille Grammer, what happened to this woman?  Why is she so narcissistic?  I’m no psychologist but even I can see that horrible fake smile every time she  slams someone into a wall.  In this case, Kyle thinks all is well after hugging it out in Taylor’s suite. Something happened to Camille in the mysterious 20-minutes that it took the ladies to freshen up and be seated in the restaurant.  Camille decided the truce and the gloves were off.  Was she looking for attention?  She was the hostess after all and it was her A-list husband’s performance that brought them all to New York, why couldn’t they all understand that Kyle had verbally assaulted her?
What???
This episode opens as Camille continues to argue with Kyle over something that was said in Las Vegas, the only witness seems to be the dim-witted Kim and she is too nervous apparently, to even speak.  Let’s pretend for just a moment that Kyle did say what Camille is accusing her of saying.  “Why would anyone be  interested in you without Kelsey?”  The fact is, that’s a fair question but I can see why it would be offensive to Camille.
If Camille truly believed that Kyle said that, why would Camille even invite Kyle to New York?  (maybe she was forced by Bravo to go, huh Kelly?)  The drama on stage apparently wasn’t enough for Camille, maybe like Jill Zarin, Camille was told by producers to “bring the drama or lose the diamond”.   I wasn’t buying that excuse from Jill and I’m not buying it from Camille.
Camille leaves the table after her mini victory because Kyle own sister clams up and doesn’t confirm or deny what was said in Vegas.  Kyle is visibly upset after the double team gut punches she took from not only Camille but her very own sister.  “I don’t want to get involved” said Kim.
So why was Taylor brought into the argument?  This is a thing of beauty.  The show cuts to a scene from last week as the ladies are waiting for their flight at the airport.  Taylor clearly says, without any prompting, that Camille must be “insecure”.  Cutting back to the restaurant in New York, Taylor flat out lies, denying that she would never say that.  The magic of television, here we conclude that Taylor was like a bee buzzing in Camille’s ear for the past 20- inutes.  Taylor fed the fire telling Camille that the ladies were all having a bitch-fest during the flight to New York with Camille as the topic of discussion.  Camille’s talking head interview tells us that she knows for a fact that they were all talking about her insecurities during their flight to New York.  Taylor clearly likes to stir the pot and then watch in silence as the others go at it and then when the focus turns to her, she not only plays innocent but is so incensed at being accused, she threatens to go all “Oklahoma” on their ass!  That, I would love to see.  I can picture Taylors lips arriving in a surry with the fringe on top…I don’t even know what that means….
So we’re learning more and more about these ladies as each week airs, Taylor is a lying, manipulative  sneak, Kim is a complete wimp, Camille really is insecure as she blows this situation completely out of proportion and Kyle is not above humbling herself as she calls Camille to try to smooth things over.  Kyle even offers to skip Kelsey’s play in order to avoid any further conflicts.
Lisa tries to be the peacemaker but also can see who is right and who is wrong as she wonders like the rest of us why Kyle’s sister, Kim doesn’t just speak up and just put an end to all of this.
Kyle is visibly upset over the confrontation with Camille but the tears seem to be more for her disappointment in Kim’s silence than in anything Camille had to say.  It seems that when it comes right down to it, Kyle can’t count on her sister at all.
The following day the ladies have lunch without Camille and Kim tells the ladies that it was her deceased  mother’s birthday so she started a jewelry line and has a gift for each of the ladies, a beautiful crystal bracelet but she wants Kyle, her sister, to open hers first and the entire thing is incredibly awkward.  Taylor accepts the bling from Kim but is not accepting the apology, wait, there was no apology.  Taylor feels that Kim owes her an apology for dragging her into the argument with Camille.  Obviously all of the ladies feel that Camille is insecure, maybe an intervention is in order.
Adrienne and Paul are getting ready to attend her uncle’s funeral and the bickering from this couple continues.  Adrienne explains that after 8-years of marriage that is normal while Paul explains that they’ve been bickering from the minute they met.  It’s a stressful time as the surgeon can’t even seem to work a clasp on a necklace, this is frustrating Adrienne because they’re running late.
Later this couple argues more as the question we all asked last week is answered.  Paul was seen having drinks with the guys while the ladies were all in New York.  The trip that Adrienne skipped due to her uncle’s death, so it was a bit of a surprise to see Paul joining the husbands during this time of grieving.  Adrienne was upset with Paul, feeling that he should have been by her side at her mother’s
house rather than in a bar being filmed for Bravo.  Paul apologizes but I’m not sure that Adrienne felt that it was sincere. (the eyeroll was the clue)
Back in New York the ladies are in the limo on their way to Kelsey’s Broadway opening agreeing that there will be no arguments.
Camille is getting ready as her hair stylist and make-up artist are working on her, she tells us that she’s happy to be among her good friends again.  This has to be one of the saddest scenes of the night.  I’m all for multi-tasking but these two are doing double duty as her hair and make-up people as well as her “good friends”?
That is just sad.  Which came first, were they her friends who she hired to be her stylists or were they her stylists and became her friends?  It is clear that they are just “yes-men” who agree with everything Camille says and they even feed the fire by encouraging their boss/friend to be tough and not take any of Kyle’s nonsense.
Camille is filmed in her limo joined by her “friend” and hair stylist DeDe.  Camille steps out of the limo onto the red carpet and hands her wrap and clutch to DeDe to hold while she poses for photos and gives interviews to the press,  DeDe is really earning her pay tonight!  I wonder if DeDe collects three salaries from the Grammer’s.  Do you suppose that Camille had to downsize her staff of friends after the divorce?
Seating before the play was awkward for the ladies as Queen Camille remains in her seat and all the peons kiss her ring as they arrive and take their seats.  Cut to the intermission as the ladies all use the little girl’s room and last to emerge is dopey Kim who seems like a lost puppy and asks, “Where is everyone?”  Nice work Bravo!
Finally the play is over and Camille goes backstage to congratulate her husband but it is extremely tense as Kelsey is smiling but quite obviously wants his wife to go away.  The minute she walks into his dressing room and they share a very awkward peck on the cheek Kelsey asks Camille to excuse him while he gets dressed.  She slowly gathers her things and seems to be looking for reasons to linger.  She asks her husband to have Playbill’s signed by the cast for her friends, Kelsey promises to get that done for her as he is shooing her out the door.  Camille hesitates again at the door and more awkward glances.  I think this would have been a perfect moment for Camille to ask her husband for a 7-carat diamond or a summer home in the Bahamas because that man would have done anything, promised her anything just to get that woman out of that room!  It came off more like a crazed fan who won a visit backstage and the star couldn’t get rid of this crazed fan fast enough.  These two were a married couple with two children?  They seemed like   complete strangers.
The after party was uneventful, Kelsey turned into the perfect host talking easily with all of the ladies like he was at a press conference.  Kyle need not have worried that Kelsey would treat her differently because of her tiff with Camille, it didn’t even appear as though Kelsey was aware of any argument.  Camille tells her stylists about it and even her “friend” Nick who is ever-present but she doesn’t seem to tell her husband about this childish nonsense.  I get the feeling he would be less than sympathetic to his wife.
Back in Beverly Hills Adrienne makes the trek across the street to Lisa’s house to get the scoop on the New York fiasco.  It’s nice to hear that Taylor was kind enough to keep Adrienne in the loop with constant text messages filling Adrienne in on all the ridiculous arguments while in New York.  I’m sure that is exactly what Adrienne needed while burying her uncle and consoling her mother.  Lisa and Adrienne have a gab-fest witnessed by the ever-present freeloader houseguest, Cedric the fitness guru.  The magic of television allows Lisa to bring Adrienne up to speed in mere minutes and we cut to Camille telling her side of the story to her lover friend Nick.
Camille is an outstanding storyteller, she has a gift!  She can turn an argument in a restaurant into world war three complete with a “verbal assault” and Kyle screaming at her and completely flipping out.  Bravo must have cut all of that out, because they typically like to keep it light and drama-free.  (Yes, that is my attempt at sarcasm)
Camille’s talking head interviews become even more bizarre than her story to Nick.  Camille explains that her husband is an A-list celebrity spouting off his resume and his many awards then adding that Kyle’s husband is just a lowly Beverly Hills Realtor.  Get the pecking order people?  Camille’s ugly is showing as he assures us that Kelsey will no longer be able to utilize Kyle’s husband, Maricio as their realtor any longer.  Apparently Maricio’s skills and abilities are directly affected by his wife’s behavior in Camille’s eyes.  That is very professional, I can’t understand why people don’t take Camille seriously as a businesswoman.
Apparently Camille doesn’t realize how petty and stupid she sounds calling Kyle jealous.  Even if we didn’t already know that Camille will soon be devastated as her A-list husband unceremoniously dumps her for a younger woman, she would come off as a complete idiot.  Rather than being so offended by being called, “insecure”  Camille should consider that maybe that is exactly what she is, insecure!
While the ladies are in New York City we’re treated to several scenes of the husbands trying to cope at home without their wives.  I was pleasantly surprised to see Russell interacting with his daughter.  While he couldn’t seem to prepare a simple meal for his 4-year old, their scenes were cute and they were clearly more comfortable together than Taylor liked to make us believe.  Although Russell seemed as though he was about to panic as Kennedy continuously said, “no” to all of his meal suggestions, he held it together and managed to keep it light.
Maricio was swimming happily with his children in the family pool and Lisa’s husband Ken is mumbling to himself in the yard rearranging the couples pet turtle and carrying around the tiny dog, Giggy, who is quickly becoming a super star.
Yesterday, Camille Grammer closed her Twitter account explaining that everyone is so mean to her and she’s been misunderstood.  She also blamed…wait for it…editing!  Before Camille cancelled her Twitter account, she had this pre-arranged conversation with her hair stylist/bestest friend DeDe…
CamilleGrammer‎: TO:  @dedrawhittcontext!! Ugh! I can’t defend myself.They threatened me w/a lawsuit
@dedrawhitt‎: TO:  @camillegrammer I feel so bad right now.i’m so so sorry what they’re doing to u!
CamilleGrammer‎: TO:  @dedrawhitt I know.. It’s breaking my heart:(
CamilleGrammer‎:  TO: @dedrawhitt I agree.. You were there. They cut a lot of what was said out.
(@Dedrawhitt is DeDe who was shown as Camille’s friend/stylist in last night’s episode.)
The Beverly Hills Housewives have a lot of skeletons intheir closet, particularly Kim Richardson who appears to be the innocent, victim of circumstances child star who turns into an insecure adult.  There is a lot more to this woman’s story than we hear on Bravo.  Here are a few articles of interest:
Kim Richardson has had an interesting and very unique life, there is no doubt in my mind that being a child actress has had substantial negative impact on her adult life.   But there is a lot more to this complex woman that we see on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.  Clearly Kyle is doing her best to have her sister be viewed as a normal, glamorous Hollywood star.  This may even be the only reason Kyle agreed to participate, to look out for her big sister.
The way I see it, Kyle has it all and has absolutely no reason to want to open up her life to scrutiny this way.  I may be completely off base here but I would bet that Kim was anxious to do this show to get back into the limelight and Kyle is there to try to protect her sister.
In other Housewives News, it seems as though many agree that Bethenny has finally gone too far by creating and selling “Future SkinnyGirl” onesies for babies.  Concerns that she is taking the word, “Skinnygirl” too far and it could be negatively impacting young girls health who will constantly strive to be “skinny”.  As a fan of Bethenny’s I can see that her books, recipes and DVD’s are trying to focus on healthy eating but unfortunately she’s branded the word “skinny” which is fast becoming a negative way to describe women.
Much more is now known about Sonja Morgan’s bankruptcy, you
can read more about it here:
The New York Housewives have returned home from Morocco (and possibly other parts unknown) as described by Alex McCord:
@McCordAlex:  Sitting in a car with the love of my life @simonvankempen headed home from JFK – he met me at arrivals with roses!!!
Sickeningly sweet, I love Alex and Simon!!!
Thank you so much to Quincy for all of your help with research and for your unending support!  :)xo
Thank you also to Mickey Mouth @MickeyMouth for her leads to Camille’s tweets!  Great stuff!
Until Next Time…..
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604 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

  1. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    dumps her for a younger cover is more like it
    if Kelsey is heterosexual so am I lol and we all know what time THAT is LOL

    • Sha2000 says:

      Wow that was a great blog Lynn, good job! Loved this part:

      ” I can picture Taylors lips arriving in a surry with the fringe on top…I don’t even know what that means….”

      Being raised in NY & hearing someone say “get Oklahoma on your ass” just makes me laugh out loud. Far more funny than scary!

      (sorry OK folks)

      • psol says:

        I felt the same way growing up in Chicago.
        She sounds like a joke!

        • quincyil says:

          I love the west. Oklahoma is a great state. I think she means that she will be whip out a six shooter and have a old fashion gun fight in the back alley. Let’s settle our differences the old fashion way.

          • Savannah111 says:

            I knew Taylor stirred the pot in a major way last week, I knew that we would find out more this week and we did. She says in her blog she;s confused, I’m not, I see very clearly she played a major role in keeping the crap going and she knows it too. She confused about how she can get out of it and explain it all away but she wanted to put her life on the screen, she needs to remember they are being filmed if a person is not honest it;s going to come out..

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I tried to post on Taylor’s Bravo blog (we all know the BS that entails) asking just what ‘going Oklahoma’ means because the first stereotypes that came to my mind were cousin lovin and cow-tipping,

        • karenne says:

          I posted on Taylors blog on Bravo…dont know if they showed it or not….
          but I said she is a pot stirrer and keeps the crap going and she just is a liar and how stupid does she think we are?
          something along those lines….yeah, I bet it didnt get posted…haha
          hey…picture this….her lips with fringe….she IS the surrey with the fringe on top….
          Camille may be a “odd ball” and be in Camille-Land….but taylor knows that and made sure Camille did a major freakout…by placing blame, deflecting it off of herself, creating a ruckus so as not to answer anyone..etc etc
          She is a lousy human being.
          Sure…Kim should have stood up for her sister Kyle…
          BUT…
          w/out Taylors Big Mouth…and need to be filmed, and not on the cutting room floor…
          that drama, wouldnt have happened, and that is per the producer…because he KNEW after Taylor riled Camille up…while they freshioned up….ahem…he told them..dinner at ONE AM…. His own words..the story wasnt over and he was miffed that he missed the conversation about Camille, proving what was said, and what wasnt said…

          Taylor…isnt delusional like others…she is cunning.
          and in no way, do I mean that as a good thing.
          she pitts people against one another…
          of course, the minute she stepped her foot on her daughters birthday table…and Posed for the Cameras and turned it into a photo op….we knew that.
          To heck with the four year old…
          who cares?
          its a great background for Taylors Photos!!!!
          Yuck.

          Camille is a nutjob…but she comes by it….??? I mean…I’d put up with a true nutjobs delusions…before I’d stand with a cunning, deceitful pot stirring Nobody.
          oh, I mean…”business woman”.

          anyway…just my opinion.
          Why do so many women, do that?
          STAB each other in the back?
          not just stab…but SET UP the STAB….
          that must be “going all OK on someone”.
          hahaha
          bye y’all…
          gotta go see my Grandson!
          One day Old…
          perfect. smiles…

          • Alan says:

            I agree. Taylor is incredibly calculating. I think that all she really wants to appear rich and fabulous. Her daughter’s birthday party really confirmed this; why would someone with a house of that size and bankruptcy proceedings hanging over their breadwinning husband’s head spend £60, OOO on a child’s birthday party. Taylor clearly told camille about the conversation that the girls had on the flight over to stir the pot and ingratiate herself with camille. camille is vile but she is incredibly wealthy – something that a fame-hungry person like taylor responds to.
            It is kim’s lack of status that has affected taylor’s treatment of her. Admittedly kim is also incredibly sad and socially awkward but if kim had the wealth/status of maloof or camille then taylor never would have threatened to go oklahoma on her; kim is an easy target.

            another observation…taylor’s daughter seemed so much more comfortable around russell than taylor

            • psol says:

              Alan, I agree with everything you said regarding Taylor.

              The only reason she told Camille about that “insecure” comment was to get closer to the richer one. Never did she imagine that Camille would snap at the dinner table.

              I wonder exactly what did Taylor tell Camille, because I can’t believe anything that comes out of her mouth. Taylor stated that she told Camille that Kim approached her at the airport, but Camille stated that she knew that all the ladies were talking about her on the plane.

              Will we ever know the truth?

      • twoile says:

        Ditto!

  2. Lovin' this blog! says:

    Sonja bankruptcy??????? Who knew? Well, you did…that’s why everyone reads your blog. Off to check out the link…thanks Lynn.

  3. Paige says:

    I think Kelsey was trying to hurry Camille out of his dressing room so that his welcome guest could arrive to congratulate him- his mistress!

    Listening to Kelsey’s voiceovers about how difficult marriage is are so telling now that we know the rest of the story. Who can blame him really, though. Who would want to spend the rest of their life with such a shallow, narcissistic loon like Camille anyway?

    • Maite1964 says:

      Totally agree with you, the women is a manipulative, condescending, narcissistic big B … but I have to say, I rather see her than Jill Zarin and her mega annoying voice.
      I think Camile and Kelsey are a charade, they don’t even seem like a couple, he avoids her like plague. But again, can you blame him?

    • realminkey says:

      All those old TV shows going through my mind during that scene.

      Knock on dressing room door.
      Kelsey to girlfriend: Hide! Quick!
      Girlfriend: Where?! Where?!!
      Kelsey: Quick… In the closet!
      Girlfriend (looking around room): But there IS NO closet! What should I DO??!!!
      Kelsey (shoving open window): Quick! Get out on the ledge!!! I’ll get rid of her as fast as I can!! (Composes self, runs to open dressing room door.)
      (Quick cut to terrified girlfriend on ledge, traffic noises in background, wind blowing her hair, and pigeons surrounding her feet.)

    • Melinda says:

      LOL @ your comment about hurrying Camille out of the dressing room….I thought the same thing!!

      and when Camille was talking about “pecking order” lord I wanted to say……so where are you on that order now missy?!!?

    • Noreen says:

      I would NEVER condone stepping outside your marriage, even if there are serious problems; but I have to admit, I don’t know how Kelsey made it this far. Perhaps he is the “greatest actor in the world” cuz that’s all those two do, act in one another’s presence. Camille is the most horrible excuse for a human being. She makes Kelly Bensimon just look plain crazy instead of mean and crazy.

    • sophie says:

      I’ve just now seen photos of Kelsey’s new girlfriend Kayte Walsh. I must say, I think she’s a lovely, NORMAL young lady. With a normal not perfect figure, without any botox, without any implants, without makeup that has to be removed with a spatula, without a fake tan, without any narcissism.

      It looks like Kelsey finally fell in love, instead of falling in lust. He looks truly happy. I hope they make it.

  4. MichellefromNY says:

    I posted this in the last blog post but am reposting it here.

    I do not believe that Kelsey really said now they would have to find a new “real-a-la-torrr”. Notice how she looked away from the camera and nick when she was saying that, a clear sign she was fudging. The conversation probably went more like this:

    camille: “kelsey sweetheart! do you know what that bitch did to me? She verbally assaulted me! she started with me!”

    Kelsey: “mhhmmm”

    Camille: “kelsey you don’t understand! how can we possibly work with her husband when the wife is clearly perni-sh-i-ousss?? I mean she is just absolutely pernissh–i-ouss!!”

    Kelsey: “sure camille whatever you say. I’m tired. Tell the house manager to turn down the bed will ya hun?”

    Camille: “sure darling! thank you for being sooooo understanding”

    Kelsey: “whatever you say dear. Good night”

    And then camille delusionally interpreted that conversation as kelsey saying that they are firing mauricio

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thanks for bringing that over….hysterical and probably very close to the truth!!!

      • MichellefromNY says:

        Your welcome 🙂

        • Sha2000 says:

          Pernicious.

          Do you think she learned that word from hanging with Niles or Frasier?

          • oldcrone says:

            My first thought was that maybe she had just watched the original Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

            I think Charlie’s grandfather called Veruka Salt a ‘pernicious quid’.
            Camille sort of reminds me of Veruca Salt in that movie-“I want it NOW’ 🙂

    • Savannah111 says:

      LOL that is funny Michelle, I found it to look very very uncomfortable when Kelsey was around Camille. Even if it was never known what was about to happen there is something there thats off when they are together you can just tell it.

      Also by the way she seems more than a little comfortable with this Nick guy they way she’s always touching him and the way she looks at him they look like they are dating to me, does anyone else think the same thing??

      • karrylin says:

        IMHO…..I think Camille is trying to make it look like they are dating.
        Listening to what she says..and then watching her body language around him….is so Over the Top…sure, we all hug our friends, or maybe not…but if we do, we dont hug our guy friends, with OVER the SHOULDER HUGs!!!!! maybe with one arm, around their arm…quickly.
        But not Camille…she looks like she hugs him, and is ready to jump up and put her legs around his waist!
        The guy never returns the same affection, or sexy smile. He is seen to check in on her…either for the camera….at the producers request perhaps, or he is waiting to marry the divorcee, with all the money…but only for the money…
        or maybe she pays him to show up…as a friend!

        But…the RH’s all seem to “act normal” for BH’s….???
        But Camille…seems to be ACTING..and she isnt very good at it.
        She is trying to be sexy I think….????
        Or hatching a plan, to screw over Kelsey…because I dont believe she didnt know “something was amiss” in her marriage, long before she found out about the mistress hiding in Kelseys closet…hahahaha

        His Opening Night alone, in the dressing room…
        shoo shoo wife….I must get dressed.
        ?
        Kelsey knows how to “put it on for the cameras” and he doesnt even try…to make it look like he likes/loves/respects her.

        What made me really vomit in my mouth just a little…
        when she arrived in NYC….to see the oh so small apartment..haha
        and he hugged the kids and she waits….and said “How about some sugar?” and put her arms out and emoted over to him…
        he gave her saccharin…..practically pushed her off of him.

        oh well…I still think she was a call girl before she married him.
        Just my opinion…
        Calling all Camilles!!!!

  5. MichellefromNY says:

    Great recap!! Love this blog!

  6. MamaCat55 says:

    Wow!! Never knew I could detest someone as much as Camille! After sleeping on the episode, I feel even more for Kyle. I think Camille chose the one person she could do damage to-Kyle’s husband and created all the drama to bring him down. What, did he turn her down when she hit on him??? Kyle is a direct person, whether you like her or not, and people like Camille are threatened by strong willed people, imo. And how awkward had Camille and Kelsey’s interactions have been all along, but last nite was the topper. She may have not known, but it does seem he went to NY and the play probably to get away from her and the new one is just the result. I am not a Kelsey fan but she just keeps digging and digging herself in a pit of S%(*! lol The best revenge would be for Kelsey to sell one of their many houses and use Kyle’s husband as the realtor! And just where is the guy friend’s wife? I get the vibe he is there to watch over her for Kelsey, some of the things he says seem to be trying to guide her into making better decisions, but not doing a very good job. Hit her over the head with a 2×4 might get better results! I would not be happy if I was his wife to see all the times she sexually flirts with him, just saying. Join JZ, Kelly, in the circle of hate Camille, because you are on your way to a “I hate Camille Grammer” page!! lol

    • cusi77 says:

      As much I dislike Camille…. I will never dislike anyone else more than Jill Zarin… in my book she is the worst kind of evil around the Housewives.

      • psol says:

        I say they’re tied for most hated.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I got to say, the way it’s going Camille is going to have JZ beat. For some reason people like JZ or TG have their cult like small following but I haven’t heard about anyone one being in Camille’s corner.

          • ImaJillHater2 says:

            I agree that Camille will definitely give JZ a run for her money in terms of who will be Most Hated Housewife.

            In my opinion, they are both just as nasty & vicious. The difference is that Camille is a master at subtlety, whereas JZ is as subtle as a sledgehammer.

            Make no mistake, Camille is following the same playbook with Kyle that JZ did with Bethenny. Only difference is Camille is a professional. Girl is mad talented at her game. (Just ask Kelsey.)

      • Melinda says:

        I agree, Jill Zarin is the Queen of Nasty and Evil amongst the Housewives….Camille is her lady-in-waiting.

  7. SpunkyMonkey says:

    I LOL’d when I heard Kelsey’s talking head about hoping that you are married to someone decent and nice. Teeheehee! It was clear to me he knew his wife was a crazed looney toon.

    Sorry, Camille, but I seriously doubt that Kyle is a miserable, jealous person what with her hot husband, beautiful children, and lovely home. And as far as pecking order….I don’t find any naked rollerblading pics of Kyle on the internet, or any soft porn on her resume.

    • ImaJillHater2 says:

      That whole pecking order thing was so “my dad can beat up your dad”!

      So 3rd grade!

      AND, I have no respect for anyone who thinks that their SPOUSE’S accomplishments somehow elevate them. Kelsey’s personal acheivements do not reflect at all on his wife. (But nice try, Camille!)

  8. klmh says:

    Thanks for the descriptive blog. I knew I didn’t need to watch it when I could read your recap.

  9. BostonGirl says:

    Lynn: I enjoy your blog so much and usually agree with most of what you write but I have a completely different take on Kyle. As a friend and sister I think she is bitchy, superficial and constantly gives left handed compliments and digs to her sister. With a sister like her who needs enemies? If she truly wanted to protect her sister or “take care of her” as she says her mother asked, she wouldn’t insult her in front of America. Everything is a criticism and taking Kim’s kids side against Kim is just not right. Kyle is very pretty, Kim is obviously insecure and seeking her sister’s approval but when the strong one puts down the weak one in that way, it tells me she isn’t much of a real friend or sister. She isn’t supportive or loving as far as I could see. Her behaviour seems completely passive agressive to me. Thanks for the blog!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I certainly see your point of view. I see Kyle getting very frustrated with Kim and visa versa…typical sisters with a disfunctional relationship.

      • karenne says:

        Lynn,
        Love your blog, as you know! But….in my opinion….
        Kyle is a Bitch to her sister. I dont care how she feels about Kim…to openly say what she does to Kim, is MEAN GIRL STUFF.

        Kim isnt the stronger sister, so what kind of person continues to humiliate their family, on TV in front of millions? She is a bully.
        why? who cares?

        the funny thing is…I cannot help but like Kyle…apart from Kim.l
        but when Kim is around, she is MEAN.
        Not just with this “you didnt stand up for me crap”…but all the time!

        Kyle knows she is the “strong likeable sister” and she takes advantage of that…and who jumps across the seat of a limo ride, to yell in sisters face, on TV? Sounds VERY NJ to me.

        Now, after they have filmed…Kyle openly says she doesnt like what she saw…with that look that says “oops”
        and another one…”but ya like me anyway…dontcha”.

        yea, I do like Kyle..she is fun, and pretty and a good mom it seems and a fun friend…good wife etc etc
        but she is also a bitch.

        For example…arriving at the Palm Desert weekend home..for easter…she not only asserted her authority as HEAD FAMILY MEMBER to Kim…but to her neices…by mentioning on camera…about how they didnt clean up good enough last weekend…and how she had to do it all again.
        with her neice saying…”doupt she was on her knees cleaning floors” as it went to commercial.

        Everytime Kyle gets near Kim…she says something, to show her dominance. think of a wolf pack.
        and everytime, Kim rolls over and lets Kyle bite her on the belly so to speak…think wolf pack.

        Ok…Kim has had a life of hardships and trauma and isnt the strongest sister..but WHY OH WHY..does Kyle Need to Assert her dominance over Kim every time she talks to her, or become so oppositional? Sure, Kim and her “lack of social skills…trying to get acceptance…she is gawky…and yet, Kyle is even allowing the other women, to make her more of a scapegoat….
        How is that any better…of a sister…than Kim not speaking up for Kim, about the unfilmed conversation?

        still…who would I want to hang out with? Kyle…she seems to be a good friend, if she sees you as her social equal or above her. She is NOT a Hilton…only a step in law….
        doupt she cares…but she isnt inheriting any Hilton money….

        Kyle is very hungry for power, to the point where she will pee all over her sister, in front of the BH pack…to make her point…
        like Lisa said, “its not about how much you have, its who you know”.
        my paraphrase.
        Kyle…fun, but tenacious and probably realizes that if she gets in good, with the really rich housewives…she helps hubby out, in business.
        Nothing wrong with that.
        but…

        She is a MEAN SISTER….to a weaker sister at that…
        if they both were mean to one another at times….then, they are being sisters.
        but….Kim just looks wounded.

        Perhaps, all you Kyle fans….
        haha

        Kim…is so passive aggressive….that when Kyle needed her most…to speak out about the unfilmed converation….
        SHE DIDNT….
        JUST TO SHOW KYLE….
        YOU BITCH….NOW I’M PEEING ON YOU…ROLL OVER CUZ I’M HEAD SISTER FOR THIS ONE MOMENT ON FILM….
        NOW SUFFER, SISTER!
        NOW YOU NEED ME….BUT GUESS WHAT KYLE?
        I AM GOING TO PLAY VICTIM…AGAIN.
        I AM GOING TO ANNOY THE CRAP OUT OF YOU…AGAIN.
        BECAUSE…YOU HAVE BEEN A MEAN SISTER.

        that is just my take….on a possibility.
        ok…now I’ve said it….
        kyle is just a dominant and kim isnt.
        and kyle is making sure of it…
        oh, little slips….”my weekend house”….when it is “the families weekend house that belonged to their mom”
        “I promised to take care of Kim, when my mom asked me to on her deathbed” my paraphrase….
        later….she admits…it was her declaration to her mom…from her own heart to watch out for everyone…in family.
        then….her mom, asked them all to watch out for each other…

        Kyle…still like her, can’t help but appreciate her fun way…until her sister is there and then its all….about what a pain in the butt Kim is…and how she cant take care of herself and how she cant pick good men…
        ok, maybe its true…
        but what sister does that in front of us all?
        she really, in my opinion…makes herself look bad.

        or equally dysfuncional as kim…only in a different way.
        one is a mean bitch and the other is a passive aggressive button pusher that is so dependant….
        ????

        wheew……i feel better.
        ps I am mad at myself for still liking her….damn.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Wow- that is a long post but a great one.

          I agree, there is something a little sinister in Kyle’s enjoyment in keeping her older sister under her thumb. I suspect it has a lot to do with their birth order and Kim in her childhood and adolescence being the bigger star of the family.

          • karrylin says:

            RAbble Rouser…
            sorry it was so long…but thanks for the mention that you read it.
            Its been bugging me since the beginning of the show..
            Well..as in all the RH’s cities…we find out the Real Scoop later….wonder what we will find out later on about the BH gals? I must admit…I LOVE watching them!

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Oh- please don’t apologize for the length, I just meant to say it was more of a guest blog than a post. That isn’t a bad thing, we have have many great guest blogs here.

              I think we are going to find out they are all heading towards bankruptcy/foreclosure.

              Anyway, I am glad you are here. 🙂

      • babykakes says:

        Lynn, you & others keep referring to Kim as Kim Richardson.
        her last name, (biological) is RICHARDS, not Richardson

    • klmh says:

      I feel the same way. As I posted earlier, there is a lot of jealousy, competition and back stabbing from these sisters. Their relationship is more complicated than any on the HW shows to me, and its been going on for decades.
      I enjoy Lynn’s blog and wasn’t going to stir the pot as I usually do, but I believe you have hit the mark.

      • karrylin says:

        klmh….yeah, its a mystery to me about the sisters!
        you mention its been going on for years…
        Details? Do you know why?
        beyond sibling rivalry etc?

        Hey, I can understand ISSUES and REASONS WHY….and how it takes a long time to get through things, in a family sometimes…
        But Kyle is seemingly so nice, to everyone but Kim…

        I already stirred the Kyle and Kim pot…if you know why…feel free to add to the pot…it will be the part that makes the dish complete!!!

        • klmh says:

          I don’t know these women, but I know sisters. Since the first episode, I saw a lot of problems. You could see the competition and jealousy was already there and had been there for a long time. The frustration from Kyle that Kim doesn’t listen to her when she knows best, and Kim’s dismissive attitude toward her sister butting into her business is just one of many red flags being waved.
          Can you imagine when there life as kids together? Ugh…
          I think if Kyle and Kim weren’t sisters there wouldn’t be any association between the two. They love each other but don’t like each other.

    • FreeCupcakes says:

      I think Kyle thinks she’s being a good sister by looking out for Kim, but she is obviously resentful about it.

      • psol says:

        I agree with you 100%. Kyle feels obligated to be there for her sister and resents the fact that her sister depends on her so much.

        Has anyone asked why doesn’t Kim depend on the Hilton sister? Could it be that maybe with her life that she doesn’t have the time to invest into the taking care of Kim.

        I like Kim, but I have to agree with Kelly Ripa when she stated on WWH, that “Kyle is dragging her “big” sister through life and Kim needs to grow up and take charge of her own life”.

    • sophie says:

      The thing about sisters is…you are dealing with dynamics that date back to birth. I come from family of many sisters. While we do try to be adults and get over things that happened 30 years ago…we cannot swipe these memories away, nor our prejudicial tendencies resulting from them. We are lifetime profilers of one another. Doesn’t matter how much we grow up and/or change. The history is still there, it will never leave. It is second nature for these girls to behave the way they are behaving. They behave exactly like SISTERS.

      Just because Kyle is younger doesn’t mean anything. She has the dominant, outgoing personality and her sister has always been shy, reserved, quiet and probably insecure. Kyle and Kim remind me exactly of myself and my younger sister. She was dominant, I was shy, insecure and she took care of me. She helped me make my friends. Without her I would’ve had a most miserable childhood. Because she always held my hand…she comes off as what many would term “bossy.” But I always had a voice with her.

      Kyle I think has always held Kim’s hand through life, and this will continue through the remainder of their lives. And it’s natural for Kyle to resist when Kim tries to assert her independence, because it’s not what Kyle associates with their relationship. While Kyle would on outward appearances love for Kim to get her act together, she’d probably panic internally if she though Kim didn’t need her anymore. It’s all she knows.

      I don’t view Kyle as ‘mean’ or a bully to her sister. They have their own dynamic and it’s “theirs”. I know that I was extraordinarily frustrating to my sister, so I know how Kyle must feel always having to step in and assist Kim. It does get old, and and it’s frustrating on the other side of the coin to try to step outside of the childhood box siblings live in. Kyle doesn’t know how to allow Kim to assert her independence.

      I think Kyle is very happy in her life, very secure, and a loving sister. I think Kim is lucky to have her. And there are a million blessings that Kim provides to Kyle that we don’t see. I think they are best friends. These are two women who would each be devastated to lose the other.

      • karrylin says:

        Sophie….thanks for the insight on sisters, and being kind enough to show it from the point of the sister, who was not the dominant one in the family of sisters!!
        Love you for that!

        But…with the understanding you have given…can you say your dominant little sister, would humiliate you, or say mean things to you, every time the world was watching your relationship on TV?

        If that is NORMAL….then, call me naive.

        “Hey, I can slam my sister but you better not!”
        I get that.
        But on TV…isnt that over the line?

        I see that next episode…Kim gets a blind date.
        Wouldnt that be nice, if it worked out for Kim?
        I think I heard she was dating, after the show taped.
        Fingers crossed.
        I hope Kyle, who I truly do believe is a good person, but is frustrated with Kim and probably a lifetime of watching her Flakey sister, go through divorces, the murder of a boyfriend etc etc….well….they are different than one another and Kyle has NO patience.
        BUT…here’s the rub….
        she has patience with her friends, her kids, her husband….

        Kyle…if you read this blog….
        what the heck?
        Why do you treat Kim with so little respect?
        Did she steal your first boyfriend? rob you of acting roles?
        Did Mom like her best?
        or what?

        When Kyle speaks to Kim, like she is a nobody with no brain, Kim gets flustered. Her self esteem is all askew….she listens to the things others say about her, and believes it!
        she does LEAN on Kyle…but Kyle expects Kim to be there for her….Come early…help me w/ birthday party. Oh your moving, big deal!!! Kyle has adult and teenage daughters and a husband!

        Sorry, its just one of the things I get flustered by…myself.
        But…if its a Sister thing, and your sister would speak to you the same way on TV Show……then, I can let it go….and not be curious as to WHY Kyle does that!!!

        Kyles husband…is the real estate guy…working for Kathy Hiltons Husband.
        Kim, is divorced and wants to live through her children.
        IN MY OPINION….
        Kyle has thrown her sister under the bus….to make sure Kim is always the Lowest on the totem pole…by BH standards.
        Someone has to be the lowest and by golly…its not going to be Kyle! She is keeping count of all the wrongs and rights…Love does not keep count.

        But Sophie…my opinion is open to correction. You sound like you know what you are talking about when it comes to lots of sisters! thanks for sharing!!!!!
        no matter what, I love the show!

        • sophie says:

          I don’t think that Kyle is deliberately intending to embarrass her sister on national television. My sister has alternatively stuck up for me, fought my battles for me, and also humiliated me unjustly in public.

          I don’t feel it’s a premeditated thing…I feel it’s “autopilot”.
          They are so comfortable in their lifetime roles that this is hard to downplay in front of others.

          I think it’s kind of like when a group of people who speak English as a second languare get together say, in their workplace and begin speaking in their native tongue:

          Many who only speak English will view this as rude, inconsiderate, and to speak ill of those who cannot understand the languare.

          But think of it….they are in autopilot, and it’s so easy to slip into what you’ve known your entire life, no matter who’s around, whether they’ll think ill of you for it; it’s first nature and not always do we as human beings engage the brain before putting the tongue in gear.

          Given the nature of this show, these sisters probably do try hard to keep it on a different level than they are accustomed to, but they are human and they will slide back to their natural state as sisters…perhaps immediately regretting this being caught on tape, and knowing there’s not a darned thing they can do about it.

          I imagine it’s not profitable for Bravo to focus on the political correct sister relationship….when they can pull the little ‘slips’ out to make more interesting television.

          I’m not saying Bravo re-arranges what we see…but I believe they deliberately leave out much of the positive in order to leave us in suspended disbelief.

          And no, it’s not okay to publicly or privately humilate anyone, particularly a loved one. But unfortunately, we are all human and somewhere along the line, guilty of this. Hopefully not very often…and we have the blessing of not being caught in this on national television.

          I sit and think of what the viewing public would think of ME and my family if cameras followed us around all day. Picking and choosing from the niceties and the foibles to air.
          No way would I be able to come off smelling like a rose, no matter how hard I tried.

          Here’s the cast of my family that Bravo would depict, true or not, because it would be easiest for them:

          Myself: Kim
          My sisters: Kyle/Caroline
          Danielle/Camille
          Kelly
          Bethenny
          Alex

          The thing is, that Bravo plays with these people’s images, and yes, these ladies knowingly signed up for this. I think there’s positive and negative in all of us, some more, some less…and in each of these women on these shows.

          Bravo keeps us glued to the telly by focusing on what is most interesting from the standpoint of the voyeur. Sweet and loving from everyone all the time gets boring.

          I’m not saying Kyle is perfect, it does seem as though Kim is naturally better at biting her tongue and attempting to keep issues on the back burner until in private.

          We want drama, we want love, we want it all. And we see this in the dynamic of these sisters relationship.

          It’s one reason I watch this, because it helps me realize my family is somewhat ‘normal’.

    • Savannah111 says:

      I hear what your saying BostonGirl and you have points.
      I really like Kyle, I think maybe a lot of her frustration with her sister comes maybe from being the one that she has to lean on all the time.

      • It's Hot In Texas says:

        This conversation reminded me of how impressed I was with Lisa’s daughter, Pandora. She clearly loves her little brother, Max, and is very proud of him. Being the naural child, she could easily have been jealous of her younger adopted brother. He has gotten into some trouble, unlike her, but she seems to really love him. And Lisa is extremely proud of both of her children. I think they have the best family dinamic of any housewife of the franchise!

        • karrylin says:

          Boy, did that ever show what a good mom Lisa is…the fruit of her labor!
          the accomplished daughter, with much compassion and love, as well as the prodigal son, that Lisa loves unconditionally! I sure hope he makes it in that music school with out drugs….
          HOT IN TEXAS…Yes, I agree…Lisa is a great mom.

    • LuAnn says:

      BostonGirl – I completely agree with you about Kim. I actually really don’t like Kim AT ALL. I think that because Camille is so over-the-top and so clearly WRONG, people feel sorry for Kyle. While I do agree that Kyle is the victim here, I also really don’t like Kyle. She is so nasty to Kim in general, specifically she complained about Kim being late to her child’s party when Kim was MOVING.

      Also, Kyle didn’t have to stay engaged in the argument with Camille. She knew she was right and could’ve just let it drop and been the bigger person. Everyone at that table knows Camille is full of it. Instead she let it escalate calling Camille a f**king liar. Just my two cents.

  10. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks for another excellent blog Lynn. I can’t decide if these wives are all well versed in the art of tact and diplomacy or just a bunch of wimps.

  11. T-REX says:

    What do you want to bet that Kelsey was “shooing” Camizilla out of the Dressing Room so that he could be congratulated by his new love interest before having to suffer an entire evening with Camizilla. At least one good thought, those Nanny’s will probably raise the kids very well, and Camizilla will probably hardly see them or have a hand in raising them, since Miss Insecurity will be out on the prowl for her next SugarDaddy!

  12. MickeyMouth says:

    “I probably would have let it go, but after talking with Taylor I found out that at the airport everybody was talking about me. I was very hurt to hear that all of the women that I had invited to share an important night in my life with, had been talking ill of me. I can’t imagine that any other person on this planet would feel differently. Nobody likes to feel like they are being torn apart behind their back. ”

    This statement says it all to me. She had been told they were all talking about her insecurity by Taylor. She goes from they were talking about her to being torn apart.

  13. klmh says:

    BAD Parrot
    A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The
    parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary
    Every word out of the bird’s mouth was rude, obnoxious
    and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to
    change the bird’s attitude by consistently say only
    polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could
    think of to ‘clean up’ the bird’s vocabulary.
    Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot.
    The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the
    parrot got angrier and even more rude. John, in desperation
    threw up his hand, grabbed the bird and put him in the
    freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked
    and screamed.
    Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard
    for over a minute.
    Fearing that he’d hurt the parrot, John quickly opened
    the door to the freezer.

    The parrot calmly stepped out
    onto John’s outstretched arms and said “I believe I
    may have offended you with my rude language and
    actions. I’m sincerely remorseful for my
    inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do
    everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior.
    John was stunned at the change in the bird’s attitude
    As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a
    dramatic change in his behavior, the bird spoke-up, very
    softly, “May I ask what the turkey did?”

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING (Early)

  14. error404 says:

    I’m very suspicious of Adrienne. I think it’s all made up drama for the cameras. Or at least I hope it is.

    She clearly said Paul dropped her off at her Mother’s before going to meet the guys for a drink. You know, the guys he’s on a TV show with. As in, it’s his job. Actually, it’s your job Adrienne, but he is on it too.

    Anywho, IMHO, real people in the real world say things at this point like “Oh, don’t go out with the guys. Come in with me to mom’s. I’d rather you be here.”

    Not our Adrienne. No she says nothing, let’s him go, and then ON CAMERA for the befit of millions, tells him how upset she was with what a bad husband he is. I really hope for Paul’s sake he is in on the whole fake plot to bring drama. Otherwise, he needs to dump the selfish cow.

    Sorry, I just can’t get into the whole “yeah, I have absolutely no skills in verbalizing what my needs are, but you are a bad person for not being able to read my mind and meet my many needs anyway” school of thought. I also loved how he apologized (perhaps listening to Mauricio’s “it’s better to be happy than right” marriage advice) and she still was acting like a petulant teen, texting and rolling her eyes.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I did laugh when she gave hubby grief for not knowing how to close the clasp on her necklace – after all he’s a plastic surgeon not a jewelry surgeon.

    • Kellita says:

      Error, I agree. Adrienne doesn’t really have much of a story line unless she’s flying the girls out to one of her hotels or something. So maybe they were directed to do a little arguing. That was my thought. Otherwise, she’s completely passive-aggressive: “I’ll say nothing when you go out with the boys because you should have read my mind and known I wanted you with me. Now I’ll be petulant in front of the cameras to punish you.”

  15. Sha2000 says:

    You are right Lynn, those tweets were obviously planned. If this woman wanted to speak w/her “friend” whatever happened to the telephone or even texting??? Especially if your a public figure; pretty immature.

  16. KookADoodleDo says:

    Some more info on Camilles “friend”: (I thought he was a tennis instructor???)
    Nick Stabile
    CEO at Bella Vita Entertainment
    Greater Los Angeles Area

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nick-stabile/8/885/92

    • klmh says:

      Nice find.

      • jen says:

        I suspect Nick is probably no longer her “friend” because orginally wasn’t he always Kelsey’s friend- and I agree with above poster who said seems like maybe Kelsey sent Nick to watch Camille-

        I’d vernture to bet now that Nick and Camille are no longer friends-

        • error404 says:

          if he wasn’t sent by Kelsey, he was sent by Bravo. I’m so sick of Nick, or Dede or whatever the make-ups guys name is having to fake prompt Camille into talking about her “girlfriends”. And he’s abad actor to boot. “Um, hi. Hi Camille. Um, so, have you talked to the um, other women lately? Um, ok. So, how is that going? (glance toward the producer to see if he’s doing ok so far).

        • klmh says:

          I suppose you’re right. Whoever benefits the most financially from their relationship in this town is a winner.

    • Kokuanani says:

      Two great items from “Nick’s web page:”

      a) “Life is a journey” – no s***, Sherlock; and

      b) among his credits:
      NANCY DREW Wonderful World Of Disney, “Ned Nickerson”

      He’s been on a number of soap operas as well. Should feel right at home on RH.

  17. Kukulet says:

    I’m loving Lisa and Kyle. The rest of them? Meh.

    Camille literally makes my flesh crawl. There’s fake and then there’s silicone…and LizardLips is definitely the latter. I do now officially adore Kelsey Grammer-that he had the wits to bug out impresses me.

    Catching up on all the blogs I’ve missed…GREAT work, Lynn. 🙂

  18. Sha2000 says:

    Wow, I cannot believe all the pernicious comments today ; )

  19. error404 says:

    Cedric must be what’s his name’s (lisa’s formerly fun, i mean wild hubby who’s not allowed in the fridge by himself) personal trainer as well. In the scene where he and the dog were wearing matching shirts, his biceps looked huge.

  20. Maite1964 says:

    Another great blog Lynn!!!

  21. Melinda says:

    Actually, Lynn, I am in the process of getting my Marriage and Family therapist license so I can tell you with certainty that Camille displays many traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder and like many narcissists she sure can’t see what the rest of us see!! You are spot on when it comes to Camille!

    • quincyil says:

      Kyle was also correct about Camille projecting her feeling unto the heads of others. Jill Zarin did that with Bethenny. Everyone is supposed to read Camille’s and Jill’s thoughts and agree with them.

    • karenne says:

      cool….thats an awesome thing you are going for….helping others!

      you must get a lot out of these women, on all cities!

      so, what do you think of Kyles and Kims dynamics? I wrote a whole thing on kyle and kim….
      I really think kyle is a mean girl..and dominant to the point of making sure everyone see’s she is biting kim on the belly….to keep kim passive.

      kyle is miffed with kim for not speaking up…i wonder..was Kim being passive aggressive, in not saying anything…to “pay Kyle back for all the mean girl stuff?” in your opinion?

      Not trying to prove my point…but I like Kyle…except how she treats her sister.
      you can keep that to a minimum….on camera at least.
      she has made Kim look so totally messed up…and shows her dislike of her….
      on tv.

      but yet…why do we like her?
      pls….
      explain! if you feel like it…hahahha

      interestiong how they are all starting to show their colors…Cant wait to see Lisa….or maybe…she is just authentic.
      Very strong…stronger than Kyle…even.
      but..she knows her authority and doesnt have to be mean…just slightly shakes her head…in agreement or says a funny line or two….
      she is cool…thats how to be the Top Dog….like Lisa.
      Not like Kyle….
      who is showing her potential to the others…by biting the low wolf in pack on belly every chance she gets….
      Dont bite me Lisa….
      Look…I am not like Kim….watch me…..I’m gonna bite her every chance I get…
      she is and will always be omega…while I am alpha material…
      any thoughts?

    • ImaJillHater2 says:

      See, my take is that Camille sees EXACTLY what everyone else sees.

      I don’t believe for a second that she believes Kyle dissed her.

      I believe she is a master at mind games and creating drama & upset. And I think she’s very well-practiced, likely having been at it for most of her life…

      • karrylin says:

        Really, ImaJillHater2??????

        wow….that is interesting to ponder…..
        Could Camille really be that nuts and crazy to get her satisfaction from driving others so crazy?

        is that the HEIGHT of Narcissism?
        or some other disorder?
        games, drama, upset…
        well, I do believe she lives in Camille Land…alone.
        cant wait to see how this plays out!

        • ImaJillHater2 says:

          Yes, I really do think that Camille is crazy “like a fox”.

          Her sidebar comments re: Kyle were all about who was winning & who was losing. (Thought the kerfluffle was about what was said – not who was winning by maintaining composure). Did you see the delight in Camille’s face as Kyle’s emotional equlibrium was upended? (She’s a master at her game). Also, thought it was genius that she stirred the whole dinner table up & then left the rest of the table to deal with the aftermath.

          You see, I know a Camille (actually a couple of them – my mother & sister). I’ve watched firsthand how they accuse people of saying & doing things that they never did. And I’ve watched them sit back & enjoy all the chaos and drama they created. Really, really sick & twisted stuff.

          And, of course that behavior is always self-serving. I believe Camille tried to garner both camera time and sympathy by playing the victim. I also believe she chose her victim carefully. Do you think its a coincidence that she targeted the most popular housewife? I don’t.

          Yes, there are really people that disturbed in the world. And I believe Camille is one of them.

  22. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    You know what? last night’s show cemented an opinion for me. and it all makes sense to me now.
    Kelsey Grammer took the job in NY both as a professional challange AND as a trial seperation with his wife. And she knew. She knew that marriage was over before a single camera rolled. He made an agreement with her that he would make a few appearances and give a few talking head interviews to let her save face and get her name out to the public as an individual and not just his wife before they made it official.
    She would come to the opening with their kids, but he would not join her in Hawaii.
    He flat left her when he went to NY, and she was desperately hoping he would change his mind and she could “win him back”.
    Every scene with the 2 of them is her trying to be miss normal lovey wife and him pulling away from her but trying to let her save some face for the cameras. He probably told her that he would let her announce the seperation, in her own time—but with a deadline.
    THAT is why the insecurity shit bothers her so much. THAT is why she is so fiercly “above” the other women. She KNOWS that her ride on the ferris wheel is swinging DOWN from the top and in her heart she is terrified that she really IS just Mrs. Kelsey Grammer (who even remembers his other 2 wives names!) and reacts in a uber defensive mode out of fear that these ladies will figure out what is going on before she can “win him back”.
    She is desperately flirting with his friends and working to keep them on her side so they will tell him he is making a mistake. She is also feeling low about herself as a woman because her husband has made it very clear he does not want her physically or emotionally any longer.
    She over reacts and puts spin on things said to her that seem innocent to the person saying them because she is terrified the remark means the other person is onto her secret! When Kyle said “Kelsy isn’t coming to Hawaii?” She jumped to defensive mode thinking that maybe Kelsey had told Kyle’s husband what was really going on. Two things happened immediately, 1) she freaked out because she IS insecure but with very good reason and 2) immediately tried to make it a huge fight in an attempt to isolate Kyle from the other women (ala don’t film with that bitch Zarin) and damage any credibility Kyle might have with them. That way if Kyle DID know and talked, she could say “Oh look at how mean she was to me, how can you believe anything she says?”
    Phew. I am done now.

    • SpunkyMonkey says:

      You are spot on!

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        And Kyle, who obviously did not know the real story, is reacting in shock and defense of herself thinking “What the hell?! All I did was ask if he was joining her!”

        • CinDLu says:

          I completely agree with you Dutchess (GREAT name, btw). One of the things I noticed was when she walked into Kelsey’s dressing room and leaned in, kissed him, she lingered for a moment like she was expecting more, suddenly he turns his head and kisses her on the cheek/neck. Then there was the awkward “Thank you for coming” from Kelsey as he’s trying to shuffle her azz out the door trying to get to his cell phone. A couple scenes later, Nick drops by and she’s got her arms all up around his neck huggin’ on him and starts to boo-hoo how she was verbally attacked by a raging homeless person. Uhhhm, yea, OK…

          Dedra Whitt on twitter – not much activity. Only recent tweets between her and Camille since the show started. But Dede did post that she’ll get sued if she’s tells us why Kyle is soooo jealous of Camille.

          This is probably just editing, but I did LOL when Nick told Camille he didn’t know Kelsey had such a nice singing voice. Instead of saying, “Yea, he sure does”, Karma Camille says “thaaaank you”. Guess she’s responsible for that too. HA!

    • MichellefromNY says:

      Agreed Duchess!!

    • error404 says:

      She knew her marriage was over and that the cameras would show it… so she basically started a fire in the lobby to distract everyone.

      If we all weren’t so busy talking about her feud with Kyle, we’d all be talking non stop about what an obvious sham her marriage is. Even with all of the drama and cat fights, people are still talking about that dressing room scene!

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        yeah, that is what cemented it for me. He had obviously told her that he would let her make the announcement, and try to let her get used to the idea but she just kept pushing her way in and his face was like “What are you doing? I thought we talked about this!” Then, the best he can come up with to describe his wife of 13 years who is running around telling everyone how close they are is DECENT? Nope. He dumped her before he left. Period.

      • ImaJillHater2 says:

        Wow – you so nailed it. I agree – she started that “fire” as a distraction. I also think she was counting on a little sympathy as a side bennie.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Or she could just be an A List Bitch!

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        Which is why he left her? Hmmmmm…… 🙂

      • JKW says:

        Windy.,…Actually she is more a B list Bitch.

      • T-REX says:

        Yep! And won’t we all be surprised when JZ soon comments on what great friends she is with the Camizilla! , You know that Tweet will be coming from the Grand Bitch JZ soon!

      • quincyil says:

        I think she was a bitch from day one…..but…a very good at sex bitch.

      • TLM says:

        Camille is nothing more than a desperate old cougar with an overdose of Botox in her face and a creepy stare with a wonky eye. I have to just ask it: what part is Nick Stabile trying to land that Kelsey is helping him with? There is no way on fucking earth that this guy is into hugging Camille and listening to her bullshit. I am convinced this guy was just trying to get more acting work. Undoubtedly he figured the exposure on Housewives would help him, so he tries to get into as many hugging scenes with Camille as she asked him to do. It was a blatant ego boost for her and a career move for him.

    • klmh says:

      I agree with you totally about C&K’s marriage falling apart before the show. I think it may even have happened before that, before she signed on for the show. She decided to do the show to give herself some face time on TV. With her narcissistic behavior, she probably thought she would be the star of the show and get lots of offers, and Kelsey went along with it to get her off his back.

    • scorpiosue1102 says:

      Absolutely agree.

    • kmuellfa says:

      Nail meet head.

    • twoile says:

      Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • sophie says:

      You mean the FORMER Mrs. Kelsey Grammer.

  23. error404 says:

    wonderful blog Lynn and thanks for all of the links!

  24. MichellefromNY says:

    Did Camille get anything from the divorce?

    And who’s excited for next season when camille will be stripped of being “ms. kelsey grammar” and pushed to the bottom of the pecking order??

    I feel evil for enjoying her pain but she makes it so easy to enjoy!

    • error404 says:

      Still ongoing. They are said to currently be battling over kids and cash.

      • SpunkyMonkey says:

        You mean cash and cash…that’s all the kids really are to her.

        • jen says:

          There is no prenup and they were married for over 10 years in CA- she’ll porbably get half at least…..I really think kelsey doesn’t care and just wants out. If her name is on his production company (as she claims) then he’ll have to buy her out- but…..that being said I have watched Girlfriends, Medium and the Game recently and the credits say “produced by Kelsey Grammar” no where does it say Camille Grammar as well so my guess is she is not actually invested as herself but just is his wife……(did that make sense?)

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            yup – she is a pretend producer!

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I know I keep on saying this but I am very suspicious the perceived wealth of most of these women.

            Sure Kelsey made some nice bank while on Frasier but what has he done lately? His last two sitcoms failed . He is not a bankable silver screen actor- has he ever had even been in a major motion picture?

            Owning a bunch of real estate in a down market in areas that the property taxes are probably outrageous (and probably cost more than actual houses in some parts of the country)- seems like he is hemorrhaging money.

            Their production company? The only program I ever heard of (and admittedly enjoy) is Medium.

            Kelsey Krammer might have millions of dollars in assets but it still needs to be measured against their debts.

            My gut says, it’s going to go the way of Nick Cage as far as rapped foreclosures and mounting debt.

    • quincyil says:

      Why would we care about her without Kelsey?

  25. cusi77 says:

    Great Blog Lynn! Thank you so much!

  26. LynnnSocal says:

    My opinion: this is the most fake scripted of the HW shows. I think Kelsey’s wife hoped to use this is a vehicle to step out of her husbands shadow…as an actress. Nick the actor friend would also get exposure. She has certainly garnered the most camera time. Sadly, the more she speaks the more unattractive she becomes! Totally backfired! Kim isn’t helping herself either, she’s just unfortunate. There’s not much “real” in RHOBH.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      They are very real in their fakeness – they are not impressed nor surprised by anything or anyone. Lisa seems perplexed with Camille’s behavior but won’t get involved past the point of telling Kyle not to ruin the weekend. Taylor knows something was said to Camille (by Kim) and doesn’t want to look like a gossip. IMHO Kim didn’t stop the fight because she liked seeing Kyle put in an uncomfortable position – pay back is a bitch sister. Since no one had the stones to stop the fight Camille knew she could keep on dishing it out and be the center of the action. And I doubt Camille took any coaching from Bravo to let her freak flag fly.

    • error404 says:

      I must admit, I don’t watch most of the HW shows, but I’m a little lost.

      Are you saying that Kim Z is seriously persuing a singing career, that Sheree is an “actress”, that Caroline and Dina don’t care if Bravo shows the Brownstone on screen or not, that Jill just wants to share her fabulous circle of friends with America? I’m pretty sure if you google “lying sack of shit” a picture of the Real Housewives franchise pops up. lol

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        In Housewifeland – if you say it then it is so! Actress, dancer, singer – you can be anything you want.

        • LynnnSocal says:

          Exactly! You have to be a supreme narcissist to subject yourself to such scrutiny and the vilification of the public. Camille and the majority of other wives have no clue how they actually appear. They’re way up there….which would be another reason most don’t think about the effect on their children. They believe all the lies.

      • twoile says:

        As presented “they” would like U/US 2 believe all that, yep!

    • babykakes says:

      “i did good Kelsey, didn’t i Kelsey? ain’t i smart Kelsey, ain’t i?

  27. Christine says:

    To the person who left the jokes for us to enjoy: Make you laugh? Thank you! I really got a good laugh. I needed it. I thought it was nice of you to post them jokes yesterday for us to enjoy, however I don’t think you should post them anymore. I enjoyed them but for people who had the nerve to make a comment about the Little Johnny joke but think Chili and farts jokes is OK is way beyond ridiculous. You were trying to be nice by making people laugh. Then people had the nerve to make comments oh that just was inappropriate. We are adults, there is no Santa in real life now a days I’m sure people will beg to differ this but what I am saying to you is there is a lot of favoritism on here and it makes me mad.

  28. Christine says:

    Notice Lynn said to the chili fart joke that was a keeper but nothing about yours. So please don’t be nice to these people and humor them. Fart and chili jokes are keepers not funny ones like yours actually were. No good deed these days can be appreciated. For those of you that had a problem with the Little Johnny joke I have this to say , “Get over your self” ok, its not about you, don’t act like you never heard a curse word in your life. Go ahead laugh about farts. I wont be checking to see what everyone has to say about this so don’t think if you comment back I will reply.

  29. Christine says:

    Sorry Lynn but you shouldn’t play favorites. I have seen that lately on here.

    • American Idiot says:

      Christine: It’s not favoritism. The chili joke was funny; the santa joke was not.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      sorry, how did I play favorites???

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Christine, please stop trying to cause problems, really, its ridiculous!

      I don’t comment on everything and I don’t comment to play favorites, this isn’t kindergarten where everyone is looking for recognition from the teacher. I’m not going to be made to feel like I have to comment on every joke just because I commented on one of them.
      You have not seen me play favorites, I comment when I feel like it, period!

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I am sure most of us here comment when we feel like it and when we feel we have something to say. Why should Lynn be any different. She has the right to enjoy this blog as much as the rest of us do.

        • twoile says:

          More of a right…where would we b with out it(BLOG) & of course Lynn, in all her glory hip hip!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • oldcrone says:

        Speaking of kindergarden: I miss the nap time and fingerpainting.

        (However, I have continued with the snack time. :-))

    • klmh says:

      A hit and run eh? Well———– anyway——-
      I post a few jokes now and then on request and am not the person who posted several yesterday. We all enjoy a good joke and obviously I do as well. We have tough days and need a good grin to finish off the day.
      I remember when I first started receiving jokes from my email buds. I sent all on whether or not I thought they were funny. Some were really fabulously nasty and some were just bad but I learned my lesson and now just pass the one’s I like on.
      We all have a different sense of humor. I personally love bathroom humor.
      I remember reading the Santa joke posted yesterday several years ago and some on my email list thought it was really funny, but not me. Everyone has a right to their opinion, don’t you think?
      No favoritism, but its always nice to know you are hopefully putting a smile on someone’s face, as everyone did on her chili joke. It was great!

  30. SpunkyMonkey says:

    I know most people think of Kelsey Grammer as Frasier…but in my house we think of him as Stinky Pete (from Toy Story 2) because that DVD is played at least 3 times a week in my house. So now we’ve started calling Camille Mrs. Stinky Pete. I think it suits her…

  31. error404 says:

    Well, the Richards sisters do seem to be dragging the Hilton Dynasty into modern times, like Diana did for the royals. Before Paris, all anyone ever talked about was the loser who was married to (and abusive to) Liz Taylor for all of 5 minutes.

    All 3 sisters were child stars. Because I am naive, I don’t think 6 year olds decide to be movie stars and their reluctant mother just has to go along.

    All 3 sisters are 5 years apart. A lot can happen in 5 childhood years, so it’s not like they have the same commeraderie of say siblings who are 2 years apart.

    Kim is the middle child and by far the most successful child star. Back to being just the forgotten middle sister, she seems to cling to her past 15 minutes in the spotlight.

    That’s ok. If Kyle can mention how hot her husband is every other episode (yes, we too have eyes in our heads Kyle), than I suppose Kim can boast of her former success too. It’s all overshadowed by Adrienne’s constant bragging about her family and Camille mentioning Kelsey’s name in every single sentence anyway.

    I won’t even begin to assume I understand Kyle and Kim’s relationship, but I do look forward to seeing more. It’s by far the most interesting thing on the show IMO.

    • babykakes says:

      the Richards sisters are not all 5 years apart. Kim was about 3-4 when Kyle was born & Kathy was about 10 at that time..how do i know, i babysat for them
      & sat for Kyle when Kathy sr. brought her home from the hospital @ 2-3 days old. No way was Kim 5 @ the time

      • error404 says:

        yes, we are saying the same thing. There is actually about 5.5 years between Kathy and Kim, and 4.5 years between Kim and Kyle. Kathy 1959, Kim 1964, Kyle 1969.. each of the sisters are 5 years apart.

    • KookADoodleDo says:

      Negative or Positive Press, Jill loves ANY Press!
      The negative Press allows her to play the victim.
      I Hate Jill Zarin!

    • realminkey says:

      That photo of her makes me want to throw a pie in her face.

    • lillybee says:

      How can Jill make breakfast for Ali, if she is away at college.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      “Jill’s assistant Darren also chimed in during the interview to defend her, stating that the Jill we see on TV “is only 1/100th of the true Jill.” Riiight.”

      Jeez, if this is true and it were shown on film, magma would erupt from the core of the earth and destroy us all in hail, fire and brimstone (not to be confused with Brownstone.)

  32. LynnNChicago says:

    http://realcityhousewife.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/my-adventures-with-associated-content/#comment-8539

    Real City Housewife is no longer just a “Hobby Blogger”

    *** Sniff Sniff **** I’m so proud of her!

  33. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Thought for the day: “If you put a small price on yourself, no one else will offer to raise it.” Know your worth and never let anyone put you down! Happy friday everyone 😀

  34. realminkey says:

    Lynn, to me this was the piece de resistance of your recap:
    ” I can picture Taylors lips arriving in a surry with the fringe on top…I don’t even know what that means….”

    LOL

  35. jeang says:

    I for one, after 60 years, have pretty much seen and heard all manners of jokes and I was laughing out loud at them all. My dog was startled to hear me laugh instead of the crying I have been doing over the past few months. I enjoyed them all and needed that. Its been awhile since I could laugh at anything. Thanks to all.

    • error404 says:

      aw, glad you were able to get a good laugh in. It’s a cure all IMHO.

    • klmh says:

      Im sorry this has been a tough few months for you. I hope it gets better soon. This is for you:

      EVE’S SIDE OF THE STORY

      After three weeks in the Garden of Eden, God came to visit Eve . ‘So, how is everything going?’ inquired God .

      ‘It is all so beautiful, God,’ she replied . ‘The sunrises and sunsets are breathtaking, the smells, the sights, everything is wonderful, but I have just one problem .

      It’s these breasts you have given me . The middle one pushes the other two out and I am constantly knocking them with my arms, catching them on branches and snagging them on bushes . They’re a real pain . ‘

      And Eve went on to tell God that since many other parts of her body came in pairs, such as her limbs, eyes, ears, etc She felt that having only two breasts might leave her body more ‘symmetrically balanced’ .

      ‘That’s a fair point,’ replied God, ‘But it was my first shot at this, you know . I gave the animals six breasts, so I figured that you needed only half of those, but I see that you are right . I will fix it up right away . ‘

      And God reached down, removed the middle breast and tossed it into the bushes

      Three weeks passed and God once again visited Eve in the Garden of Eden .

      ‘ Well, Eve, how is my favorite creation?’

      ‘Just fantastic,’ she replied, ‘But for one oversight . You see, all the animals are paired off . The ewe has a ram and the cow has her bull . All the animals have a mate except me . I feel so alone . ‘

      God thought for a moment and said, ‘You know, Eve, you are right . How could I have overlooked this? You do need a mate and I will immediately create a man from a part of you . Let’s see . . . . where did I put that useless boob?’

      Now doesn’t THAT make more sense than the rib story?

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      (HUG)

    • karrylin says:

      I know exactly what you mean….Isnt this blog and Lynnn and all the Fam just awesome???? I got my laugh going again, after I joined in, after lurking for a while…Gawd….Love this blog, these people and this laughter!!!!
      Thanks Lynnn!
      Thanks Ya’ll….
      A MERRY HEART IS LIKE A GOOD MEDICINE!!!!

  36. Adgirl says:

    Camille vs Kyle.
    It’s no coincidence than Camille loathes Kyle.
    All Camille has is her aggressive sexuality. Kyle is by far the most naturally sexy of the bunch and Camille has to put a lid on that shit quick!
    Only Camille can be the alpha sexual female in the room! All men belong to her!

    Speaking of Camille’s sexuality – how she stars at Nick’s mouth and eyes is 100% inappropriate. That’s her MO. She’s the clingy, injured sexy girl who needs to be protected by a man.

    She’s also the girl in high school who screwed every guy you thought was cute.

    And talk about clingy – did anyone notice the dance scene at the party? Camille was desperately hanging on to Kelsey’s neck like an anchor. “He’s mine!!”

    I laughed out loud when Bravo showed the journalist questioning Camille “Will this be the first time you’ve seen your husband in drag?”
    So many rumors about Kelsey….

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Give the girl a break – she is totally 100% in love with herself! She can’t help it if no one else is……..

    • CinDLu says:

      Yep, I’m with ya on this! I laughed when Camille and Nick were sitting at the theater and Camille asked Nick if she was showing too much cleavage.

      R u kiddin’ me???? LOL

      Google Camille pics and all you see are her pulled in, pushed up breasteses!!!

  37. error404 says:

    Didn’t someone mention before that Lisa and Adrienne used to be neighbors with Camille?

    Kinda explains why Lisa was so adamant that Kyle get Camille under control before she spoils Lisa’s freebee trip to NYC. She’s probably seen Camille’s freak flag flying high before and was not about to relive another shit storm if she could help it.

    I half expected Adrienne to come out with “Oh shit, not again!” when getting caught up on the drama.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelysey wife can’t get over the fact that she wasn’t crowned the QueenBee from the start – I had to laugh when they showed her “reading” The Art of War. She may never get the smackdown she deserves from the BH wives but she sure got one in real life.

      • Adgirl says:

        I has hoping Bravo would catch her holding the book upside down.
        Why doesn’t she have her housemanagerhairdressertennisinstructor read it to her in bed?

      • quincyil says:

        Well, she is the wife of the greatest actor on Earth. She should have gotten top billing in the show.

      • Imseasquared says:

        I pray that Andy has the balls to ask Camille to quote her favorite part of that book or to explain what she took from her “reading” of it.

  38. Had Enough! says:

    Here’s the thing. No one DOES care about Mrs. Kelsey, with or without that creepy husband of hers. Take your 28 mill and go away, lady. Far, far away.

    • quincyil says:

      I used to watch “Cheers” and “Frasier,” but they didn’t really make me care about Kelsey Grammer.

      I am into sci fi… and really miss some of those shows. Right now, I am still traumatized from “Malice” on “Stargate Universe.”

      • Kukulet says:

        I never cared much for either show, and Kelsey Grammar I’m impartial about…I wouldn’t watch something specifically to see him, but I also wouldn’t turn off a film I wanted to see just because he was in it. I’ve also seen him onstage, in summer stock, and his performance was pretty impressive. Serious dramatic role. He did well. Far better than I expected from Cheers or Frasier.

        But I still applaud him having the sense to end that marriage. Aside from the children-which she’s apparently leaving to the four nannies to raise-I don’t see where she brings much to it.

        And who the hell needs four nannies for two kids? I still don’t get that one.

        • Dawn says:

          I guess that I’m just really, really, really old fashioned. I believe that you honor your vows. The children need both mommy & daddy. Unless there is abuse or cheating – which you don’t precipitate- you work on your marriage.

          I don’t understand why all of the cheering for Kelsey to get out. He knew who he was marrying and he chose her for those attributes. Why is everyone now saying, “Go Kelsey?” He’s not at all noble in my eyes and I’m not wishing him a lifetime of happiness for choosing his own desires over those of his children.

          Kelsey is a lousy father for opting to relocate to the opposite side of the U.S. and shack up with a woman that he just met. Not to mention the “instant family” concept. I won’t be surprised if he’s a new father next year.

          I don’t like Camille, I don’t like Kelsey. I’m rooting for the kids and I don’t see a happy ending in any of this for them. Their parents are behaving selfishly – and Kelsey is the most supremely selfish one.

          Run, Kelsey, run. You can’t run from yourself.

          • error404 says:

            I guess I agree with you.

            The only possible explanation I can come up with is that when the news broke of the infidelity and separation, everyone was very anti-Kelsey.

            Now that they see for the first time what a piece of work Camille is, perhaps it’s not so much that the scales are turning in his favor, but that they are evening out.

  39. Adgirl says:

    There seems to always be a “one off” RH.
    OC Gretchen
    NY Kelly
    NJ Danielle
    ATL Phaedra
    DC Michaele
    BH Camille

    They all seem to be separate from the rest of the cast – probably because there is something icky or off about them.

    • error404 says:

      Bethenny and Kelly definitely had a past.

      Danielle was friends with both Dina and Jac for the whole of season 1 until Caro, for undisclosed reasons, labeled her public enemy #1 and got everyone else to turn against her.

      Phaedra knows both Nene and Khandi previously, but no one is willing to dwell on it or explain.

      I swear someone said here that Camille used to be neighbors with Lisa and Adrienne. She also knows Kyle as her Real-A-Tors wife. Wouldn’t that make Kyle a paid employee, and we all know that Camille loves to be BFFs with anyone she pays, so what gives there?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It’s as if Bravo has to put someone in each franchise they can manipulate into someone the fans can dislike instantly. If we don’t have a villainess then we can’t have a heroine. Interesting.

    • twoile says:

      I would offer “T” 4 NJ as well.

    • karrylin says:

      Adgirl….I love you for saying Gretchen on OC!!!!
      First time I saw her on that show…I disliked her, and didnt trust her and saw her as a huge PHONY.
      But…in message boards etc…people reallly seem to like her!!!
      I dont get it…why?
      she is just not “right”.

  40. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @JazzNightOut,the spray does indeed seem to be working. Apparently a few troll sympathizers got hit with the overspray and are miffed ;-).
    As for my cat? He crapped on my lovely white carpet in protest of the attention I’ve been paying this blog. Got room at your house for a very tall 16lb furball who thinks he’s a star? No, seriously…;-)

    • JazzNightOut says:

      What and deprive you of your troll spray? I just couldn’t do that to you or to the blog. Cats are pernicious narcissists aren’t they? (soft Camille like laugh while raising my shoulders and taking the Camille don’t you think I am adorable chest tuck [very much like the don’t hit me for what I just said cuz I am sooooo cute defensive posture].

  41. quincyil says:

    May we talk about the opening night clothes? I loved them. I loved the jewelry and the shoes. I loved that a lot of the women were doing their own hair and makeup while Camille’s best friend had to do hers.

    Kelsey was nice to the women too. When you have guests, you are kind to them. It’s a rule that has been with us for thousand of years. You don’t sit in a chair and have your guests kneel down to greet you. You get up and greet them. Camille need to lessons in manners,

    I haven’t had time for their official blogs. I care more about Lynn’s opinion and the opinions of the board members.

    • error404 says:

      Ill save you the trouble with a blog recap:

      Lisa: I don’t know what happened, but Camille is bat shit crazy, Kim is an ingrateful Brutus, Taylor is a sneek who probably started the whole thing, and I’m still pissed that my free weekend away was ruined.

      Taylor: I don’t know what happened, but Kim is a bitch and I did nothing wrong. I never mention any thing to Camille about anything said on a plane.

      Camille: We were poorly edited. I know that at the time I said that my marriage rocked and the girls were evil botches, well now I know that the marriage was on the rocks and the girls were fierce byatches. word. After Taylor told me everyone was ripping me apart on the plane, I got emotional. Kim wasn’t even there for the whole convo in Lasvegas so she doesn’t matter.
      Kyle lied thru her teeth, but i now regret half of what I said about her as we are friends now.

      • error404 says:

        Kim: Who? Huh? What? Taylor is a bitch. Kyle and I have a love hate relationship. I have better things to do than get involved in petty drama. I feel bad for Adrienne and her loss. Unlike my castmates, I can think about someone other than myself.

        Kyle: Oh shit. Kim and I have a love hate relationship. Camille is a lying sack of shit, but now that I realize her hubby totally screwed her over royally, I can be the bigger person and forgive her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Everyone looked fantastic, except Mrs Kelsey – she looked like a hooker! Kyle’s top and earrings were my favorite. And Lisa always picks the most interesting colors that truly compliment her.

      • quincyil says:

        The top of Kyle’s was so different and stylish.

        Do you think they got the clothes free because of the show or they had to pay for them?

      • error404 says:

        the colorful shoes mixed with the simple black dress gave me shades of Jill at the reunion.

      • karrylin says:

        the internet entertainment news, showed her picture in the black dress, with the pink purse and pink heels…
        and mentioned she looked like a call girl….
        and she did…and I believe she probably developed her style…
        at CallGirlSpecialClothesForSexyWomenWhoDateMenforCash store.
        Only now its in fancy material….

    • AZ Girl says:

      Kyle’s emerald earring were stunning. I posted on yesterday’s blog that they may be the same ones that Angelina Jolie wore to the Oscars. Obviously on loan but who would not want to wear those for an night. They were breathtaking with her beautiful outfit.

      • quincyil says:

        I looked at those while making dinner. Wow…

        The jewelry on their hands in the limo shocked me. If you all watch it this weekend, take a look at everyone’s fingers which were covered in diamonds.

  42. error404 says:

    the Kyle/Kim thing is eerily Jill/Bethenny-esque

    Bim: “I’m so pathetic. Can’t keep a man. Can’t keep a job. I’m practically homeless!”

    Kyll: “I’m know sweetie, it hurts Mamma to see a loser in pain. But no matter what, just know that with each failure, and there will always be failures with someone like you, Big Mamma is here to wipe away your tears and kiss your boo boo all better.”

  43. TheDesignDiva says:

    Diva

    • twoile says:

      Ah the memories ;0)

    • error404 says:

      OMG weird. After watching that I decided to wiki Gordon MacRae

      turns out he was married to the actress who played Alice Kramden ( I had mentioned her above)

      one daughter played Billy Jo on Petticoat Junction and the other daughter guest starred on… wait for it.. Frasier! lol

      I don’t know how, but I’m sure Kevin Bacon is somehow involved.

  44. WindyCityWondering says:

    I laughed at all the “husband vignettes”! Russell trying to connect with his daughter and both actually smiled. Ken and Giggy with matching shirts on a turtle rescue mission. Kyle’s hot husband – shirtless and wet no less.

    • Adgirl says:

      Poor Kennedy does not like the camera people around. She is a shy girl but I think both of her parents adore her.

  45. klmh says:

    Looks like Medium is pulled from CBS. Isn’t this one of K. Grammar’s babies?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      yup

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Sucks- I love the show- I am already still grieving over the loss of Ghost Whisper

      • klmh says:

        I bet you’ll be able to find it on cable, coming to your home this fall!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Good thing I got cable 🙂 – that would be the second save this show had ( I think it was originally on NBC)

          • dsc60 says:

            yes it was… it got the boot because of the Jay Leno debacle. i like the show… i hope it gets saved again but am not counting on it.

    • error404 says:

      Arquette probably asked for a retraction to the absurd assertion that Camille chose her for the role. Camille refused. Patricia refused to resign. And well, another great venture goes down the tubes because of Camille’s delusions of gradeur. Yet again, America is made to suffer at the hands of Camille, who now insists on going by her maiden name Camille Parker-Bowles.

  46. Adgirl says:

    Camille’s word of the day condom: “Machiavellian” except she said “Machiavellic” so I guess she didn’t have the condom unrolled far enough.

    I had to laugh because that was the same word a trollster inproperly crowned herself with.
    If you’re going to use large words on TV maybe you should learn what they mean first.

  47. realminkey says:

    Lawson’s Gawker recap is up, and great as usual. Best for me was a line from one of the comments (youthinkyouknow):

    “And Taylor, doll. The only thing Oklahoma about your scrawny ass is that your lips are the size of Tulsa. ”

    There’s also an interesting tidbit in the comments regarding Camille’s past as a “prostitute in the Arab world”.

    • quincyil says:

      Actually, that happens. Dancers and would be actresses are lured to the Middle East for this purpose. There is actually slavery happening.

  48. justanothermary says:

    Watching Kelsey’s ex last night made me think about how mental illnesses often mirror each other and have similar symptoms. For example: My Aunt Bubbles (yes I had an Aunt Bubbles) who was a wonderful women slowly started slipping into Alzheimers. We tried to keep her at home as long as possible so we hired a couple of retired nurses who had woked with my mother to spend the day with Aunt Bubbles. They would cook and clean, help her dress and bathe and take her places. Aunt Bubbles always referred to them as her “friends” and the rest of the family just went along with it.

    Now – just which mentally derranged howife does that remind you of?

    • realminkey says:

      To a certain extent Camille is Danielle, but with money. Camille would consider Danielle to be from the other side of the tracks, of course. However, although similarly cray-cray in many ways, I think Camille’s inherently meaner and Danielle’s the more intelligent one of the two. I’ve decided I detest Camille much more.

    • error404 says:

      I suspect Camille is more crafty than crazy, and not in the macrame way.

      step 1: find a filthy rich celeb down on his luck and a hot mess of addiction (note to Camille: Charlie Sheen may be free to remarry soon)

      step 2: hire all of your friends to help share in your husbands wealth with you. That way the staff will be on your side and not his spies, AND with all you are giving them they’ll never be able to turn on you should the shit hit the fan.

    • quincyil says:

      I had an Aunt Babe (who was really my aunt illegitimate child raised by my great grandmother after they had a very nice vacation out of the States (wink, wink.) I also had an uncle Shorty who grew up in Waukegan on the same street and in the same classroom as Jack Benny. Yes, they played together.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Mickey should do a “Driving Miss Daisy” type of photo with Camille and her hairdresser/make up artist besties.

  49. mariareads says:

    OK, out on a wee bit of a limb here (please, limb, don’t break seeing as I have put on some weight in the last 2 years and my dainty self isn’t so dainty these days) and say that I am still at the stage of feeling something really sad about Kim. She looks like a trapped animal sometimes. She is way out of her league with this bunch and even though her sister says she wants to take care of her and wants the best for her I see some real anger coming from Kyle at Kim. Not over present issues but something else. My march to my Master’s in Social Work was cut short or I would have the answer to this LOL! ~Seriously, I sense something and it makes me very uneasy.

    As for Camille? She’s so full of manure she could fertilize Oklahoma (where they do “some Oklahoma on your butt!). No way that marriage was in tact when KG went to NYC. Her behavior is part bitch to all women and part revenge and anger for what she knew was coming down the pike. No husband rushes his wife out of a dressing room in front of the cameras like that. No husband! If my husband behaved that way I would know immediately that something was very wrong. Wrong as in -his girlfriend just ran out the back door or is in the closet hiding. Honestly, I have never, ever seen anything like Camille. Don’t you recall her statement? “I kept him sober for 12 years”. Uh huh. Maybe substances honey, but I have a feeling he was doing the girls on the side thing all along. She is close to being a con artist herself. I hardly think she was a Shakespearian actress when he met her and that snark that comes out of her mouth on every show isn’t a recently acquired trait.

    OOF! Feeling better now! How about those Jets?!!

    • Kukulet says:

      I think Kim has some serious dependency issues, possibly clinical depression, and maybe a smidgen of arrested emotional development. Something is off kilter with her, but I haven’t seen her enough to narrow it down.

  50. quincyil says:

    Taylor is making a huge mistake going on national TV to announce that she is not connecting with her husband. She has been snarking at him throughout this series in the interviews and crying because he doesn’t give her total support is a very dangerous thing to do. Frankly, if there is a husband on the Planet Earth that give total support, I want to meet him. Even Kyle’s husband, teases her about the luggage and getting along with her sister.

    Taylor probably married for money and the fact that he liked vanilla icecream. He probably wasn’t her friend. It really helps if you like the man you have married though.

    Lisa and her husband kid each other playfully. Remember the one pair of underwear a week joke? I think Paul love Adrienne. She had fallen into the habbit of rolling her eyes when he falls below her expectations and that is a bad thing to do also.

    Two people have to be respectful, playful and fair if there is going to be a good marriage. It’s a lot of work at times, but the effort pays off in the long run.

    He’s getting Illinois tacos tonight.. It’s a secret recipe…but I may just share it on Boston’s site along with a pineapple upside down cake that looks great on the table and is healthier than cake with butter cream icing that happens to be gray… or battle ship blue.

    • error404 says:

      Adrienne is smarter than Taylor.

      Adrienne: “Money is what I have, not who I am”

      See America, I may piss gold coins and wipe my cooch with benjamins, but at heart I’m just like all of you. My husbands a putz who works my last nerve, but like Alice loved Ralph, I love my guy.

      Taylor; “It may seem like I have it all, but I want more”

      OMG how does a hottie like me get stuck with a geek? I used to be Miss Discount Tissue 1984! Does he know how lucky he is to have me? He so better buy me something big tonight, or I’m otta here.

      They may both be from BH, but Taylor can’t see beyond her little world and has no idea how stupid she looks to Joe & Jane six pack.

    • klmh says:

      Can not wait! Sounds flabulous…

  51. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    KAREN,
    Not yelling–just wanted to be sure you saw this LOL!
    I just re read some earlier posts and realized I had not said CONGRATULATIONS to you and your family. A Grandson. Wow! I did send up a quick prayer for your family last night when you posted you were heading out for the birth. Glad to know all are well and healthy. Enjoy this gift! So Happy for you!

    • quincyil says:

      Congrats from me too. I love babies and grandmas.

      • karrylin says:

        Quincyil….
        thanks so much!!!
        Yes, I love kids and grandma’s too!!!
        I love seeing the world, through new eyes…again.
        Having a new grandbaby….I am “over the moon” and flying high!
        My daughter feels great, and I’m so glad for that!
        Quincyil…Love your comments and thanks for saying HI…..and rejoicing with me!

    • karrylin says:

      Duchess….Thanks so much!!!
      Of course, he is gorgeous! My grandsons are all pretty wonderful, Being a Gramma is the Best thing of all…it must be Gods way (The Universe’s way) of saying…”hey, dont worry if you are getting “mature”…haha…cuz that means you are going to experience the JOY of your Life…Grandchildren! Your heart will see the world, through new eyes, and Get Ready…A new chamber of LOVE is being prepared, in your heart! A new love…a blessing for your mature life…”

      So thanks for saying Hi, to this happy Gramma….and allowing me to share my joy with you and how I’ve learned about LOVE in Caps…by the grandkids…
      who love me!

      Can I add…that to anyone who wont be experiencing the joy of being a grandparent…for whatever reason…I had a little girl, my god daughter before I became a Gramma. She is very special to me…and she loves me, and I so love her, so just sayin’…..there are lots of kids that could use a Gramma…or a Special Aunty…that lets them know they are unconditionally loved…and how wonderful they are….in some persons eyes..the kind of person that doesnt have to raise them…(parents).
      That special chamber…opens for all kids who need a Gramma type person, or a Grandpa Type guy too. So anyone…dont feel sad, desire that, and you will find that child. Build it and they will come!
      PS…four grandkids and several god daughters!
      I’m blessed…thanks Duchess! It makes me smile to share the love I have for my special boys and girls…and to have a new one, a day and half old…wow!!!!

  52. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Oh, and NANCY—got an email earlier, your cake is being cyber baked as we speak! The celebration is tomorrow everyone–in case I am not here to do my designated duty, will you all please remember to sing a chorus of the Birthday song to Nancy tomorrow! Thanks

  53. boston02127 says:

    Great blog Lynn, thx.

  54. codystl says:

    We all know these episodes were taped 6 months ago. It is still amazing to me that, upon reflection, Camille still defends her behavior in her blogs. She’d get a lot less flack if she would blog that she screwed up and learned a lesson.

  55. AZ Girl says:

    Great recap Lynn. I think Duchess is right about Camille and Kelsey’s marriage already being over. I got that feeling when he came into the apartment, hugged his kids and there is Camille asking for a kiss. He tries to discretely wipe his lips afterwards. Yikes!!

    After 2 previously failed marriages, why would Kelsey not have a pre-nup? I am dumbfounded. California is a community property state and she is entitled to half. He trying to exempt his Frazier and Cheers royalties because those were earned before their marriage. I am sure his attorney is jumping for joy knowing this divorce is going to bring in a ton of money.
    Kelsey meet someone new and the girlfriend is pregnant in no time. (unfortunately lost the child) This all happening before his divorce is final. No Pre-nup, No condom. Memo to Kelsey you are an idiot.

    Well Camille welcome back to BH. The city that is littered with divorce women of A-list actors. You are now part of a sorority whose numbers are in the millions. Enjoy your lonely life roaming through your empty house looking for your children and house manager.
    Can’t wait for Season 2.

  56. floridagirl88 says:

    Thank you so much for this blog, Lynn. I wanted to go find my blood pressure cuff after watching Camille’s foolishness last night! For just a brief moment, I hated her worse than Jill Zarin. Then I regained control of my breathing because I knew I could vent in this blog and find people of like mind.

    Camille reminded me so much of people in the workplace who start shit as a way to promote themselves while attacking your reputation. I have been on the receiving end of this type of behavior and believe me it is not pleasant. People like Camille may not be book smart (reading the Art of War, gurl please), but they are street smart. That bitch was so smug last night that I wanted to slap her through the TV. This is the same woman who said Kelsey’s girlfriend’s miscarriage was karma, this woman who couldn’t be bothered with carrying her own children, who can’t be bothered raising them, ugh! I get all worked up just thinking about this despicable piece of crap woman.

    So as I practiced my yoga breathing during last night’s episode, I chuckled as I watched her stirring the pot, making up shit and declaring herself queen bee, not knowing that karma was about to take a bite out of her ass. I Hate Camille Grammer!

    As for Kyle and Kim, I admit I don’t always understand sisterly interactions because I have brothers. I didn’t like how Kim didn’t support her sister at that crucial moment when Camille was attacking Kyle. I just don’t know about them yet. Taylor’s lips?!?! lordy, lordy, lordy, I am speechless. And yes, she ignited that little fire, didn’t she?

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      I caught that reading “The Art of War” too. At first I thought Crap she is really taking this thing with Kyle to far, but now I am wondering if she wasn’t gearing up for Kelsey because she knew divorce was coming.

  57. boston02127 says:

    Kelsey Grammer For Mayor
    Don’t worry folks, it’s only on TV. The estranged husband of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Camille Grammer will star as Mayor of Chicago in a new series next spring entitled “Boss”. The production company is owned by the brother of Rahm Emmanuel, President Obama’s former Chief of Staff, who resigned to run for..you guessed it..Mayor of Chicago.

    from: absurdtosublime

  58. boston02127 says:

    NYC Housewife Jill Zarin Talks Busy Life & Dealing With Negative Press
    19 Nov 2010

    In an interview with the Associated Content, Real Housewives of New York City star Jill Zarin is opening up about a number of things.

    Jill discusses how she joined the Bravo hit show, why her life is way more busy than most people imagine, and how she deals with all the negative press she might or might not have brought on herself, stating that her “very very famous” friends told her how to handle it.

    When it comes to how she joined the show, Jill reveals Bravo approached her in September of 2006 after they found her photo in New York Social Diary, “they literally cold called me.” Jill then did some recruiting for Bravo, “I introduced them to Bethenny [Frankel] and Countess LuAnn.”

    Her favorite part of being on the show for three seasons? “Helping people.” Excerpts from Jill’s interview below –

    Jill On The “Brutal” Taping Schedule – “2 – 5 times a week for up to 12 hours a day over the course of 4 months. In a scene that looks like an intimate conversation there are actually 4 cameramen and sound people surrounding you and another room filled with up to 12 crew members plus monitors, lighting and equipment.”

    Jill Explains ‘Jill Zarin Enterprises’ – “I have a brand, Jill Zarin Home, a tv career, public speaking career, book tour and charity work and all of those different aspects of my career form the enterprise I suppose. Ask Darren, he came up with the name.” Darren Bettencourt is Jill’s personal assistant.

    A Normal Day In Jill’s Busy Life – “I wake up at 7am and go through emails and make breakfast for Ally and spend some time with her. I read the papers then Darren comes in at 9am and we get to work. Darren and I go through our lists and emails and roll calls and go over our schedule for the day. I usually have meetings scheduled and have been spending a lot of time working on Jill Zarin Home. I also stop in to do some work at Zarin Fabrics as much as possible and if I don’t have an event to attend in the evening I spend time with my family. I have to admit that I work on emails throughout the evening but I am getting better with that.”

    Jill On Dealing With The Backlash & Negative Press – “In the beginning I didn’t know what to do, if anything. So I asked some very very famous friends how they handle it. ALL of them told me the same thing. Don’t read blogs or negative press. So I try to ignore it. Unfortunately negative press comes with the job but the people close to me know who I really am and I try and not let others judgements about who they think I am affect me. Am I perfect? No…is anyone?” Very true!!

    Jill’s assistant Darren also chimed in during the interview to defend her, stating that the Jill we see on TV “is only 1/100th of the true Jill.” Riiight.

    from: RT

    • Adgirl says:

      You mean she’s 99x worse?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I’m thinking all that good advice from very, very famous friends was either not listened to or really never happened.

    • mariareads says:

      Sure, Jill. You don’t read the blogs. Seriously, how do people LIE like this minute to minute? They begin to believe their own legends. She’s sooo busy, poor baby. They cold called her? Sorry. Most likely because she looked like the stereotypical snotty NY know it all. (I can say that because my son lives in NY and his building houses either really sweet old ladies who ask him to help them carry heavy items or serious working couples. He left the last building he was in because of people like JZ. They own 20-1 bedroom apts., rent them out, never renovate them and never return phone calls when the place falls apart.) Jill, the working women of America are unimpressed, OK? Also we students, wives, mothers, daughters and pet owners could give a shit too. (Bad mood. I want ice cream and refuse to give in.)

    • realminkey says:

      I’m always so glad when we’re reminded why we all hate Jill Zarin and how Jill brought us all together.

      Thank you, Jill. We all hate you Jill. Thank you again, Jill.

    • TLM says:

      I thought she was naming her business Zarin Home to refer to the store. Jill Zarin Home makes me think of the hideous way she effed up her apartment so badly that no one would buy it, the bordello curtains she did for Alex and the Liberace/Elvis purple velvet couch she did for Kelly. None of these evoke the word “taste” to me. I would be more anxious to see Bethenny do home furnishings line. I wonder if Bethenny will at least do kitchenware. Apparently Rachael Ray and Rocco diSpirito have had lines of cookware that have sold well. It seems like a natural for B to go on QVC and sell measuring cups and other cookware under her name, and she can demonstrate her recipes with them. Because she has an aesthetic that everything should be put away and decluttered, perhaps she could design stackable or compact things. Does anyone know what happened to her skincare line? I thought that was too far removed from her food business.

  59. Nightlight says:

    I absolutely love Lisa and Kyle. They are the real deal. Poor Kim, she is a lost puppy. I do like her even though she didn’t stand up for her sister because she doesn’t have a mean bone in her body. When I saw her just fumble to speak or walk alone in the hallway I just wanted to bring her home. Then I read where her boyfriend was murdered…so sad. I can understand Kyles frustration and why she protects her.

    • mariareads says:

      Nightlight, I feel the same way about Kim. I know it’s probably not a popular notion, but watching her look so lost really bothers me. She looks very unhappy and insecure (OMG, I said “insecure”. I’m gonna get me some of that Oklahoma voodoo done on me!) It must be painful to film this but I suspect she needs the money.

  60. Adgirl says:

    I sense a lack of respect by Adrienne toward Paul. That is the kiss of death in a relationship. I hope I am wrong, I like both of them.
    Maybe Bravo is focusing on their bickering?

  61. LynnNChicago says:

    .rawveggies My Top 10 Most Deranged #realhousewives Moments of the Week
    http://goo.gl/fb/LGBYq

    • boston02127 says:

      Am I on that list? 🙂

    • quincyil says:

      Very interesting. Another piece of the puzzle. So Sonja gets 26,000 dollars a month or 312,000 thousand dollars a year in spousal support. Note the word, “spousal.”

      Definition of spousal:

      spou·sal (spouzl, -sl)
      adj.
      1. Of or relating to marriage; nuptial.
      2. Of or relating to a spouse.
      n.
      Marriage; nuptials. Often used in the plural.

      For fun, I looked at the taxes for spousal support….zip…zero…nada.. There are no taxes to between a married couple. Sonja, unlike Kim Richards, does not have to pay taxes on her spousal support. Kim’s 20,000 dollars per month is taxable as it is alimony. Kim’s husband can deduct the money from his income. Mr. Morgan cannot.

      Evidence, ladies, that Sonja Morgan’s divorce is not final. Sonja Morgan is still married to Mr. Morgan.

      • boston02127 says:

        $26K a month. Unreal.

        • quincyil says:

          Boston, with the bankruptcy, Sonja could settle the 19 million dollars in debt then turn around and get millions in the divorce settlement. The divorce judge could give her alimony which would be protected from creditors.
          So she dumps everything, but gets money that can make her a millionare again and she doesn’t have to pay any debts. Those are really good lawyers and accountants.

          • justanothermary says:

            I was a paralegal for many years and, at least in MN, spousal maintenance is awarded when the divorce is final. The difference between spousal support and alimony is the tax burden. With alimony, taxes are paid by the payee and the payor can deduct the payments from his income. With spousal support there are no taxes paid. I believe Sonja may very well be divorced and negotiated herself a pretty sweet settlement. However, spousal support normally has a time limit (here in MN 5 to 10 years) and it’s over, alimony continues until the payee remarries.

      • AZ Girl says:

        You bring up an excellent point. The difference between “spousal support”, “alimony”, and “child support” are often confused when it comes to paying taxes. Alimony is set after divorce is final and “set in stone” so to speak. It is required by the courts to be paid. Whoever is awarded alimony is to declare it as income. Child support is different and can be changed at any time due to the economic conditions of the person paying the child support i.e loss of job, illness.

        • quincyil says:

          I have witnessed couples go back to court for years over the alimony. The woman gets a new job, back to court. It’s an expensive game, but the ex spouse with the most money and anger sometimes plays the game.

      • klmh says:

        Wow, another eye opener! Tx

  62. boston02127 says:

    A Normal Day In Jill’s Busy Life – “I wake up at 7am and go through emails and make breakfast for Ally and spend some time with her.

    Isn’t Ally living at college?

  63. quincyil says:

    Gosh, she looks taller on my tv. Kyle Richards is only 5 ft 2 inches tall. She’s tiny.

  64. Christine, I was the one who posted a couple jokes yesterday, I don’t know if you were trying to stick up for me or turn me against Lynn I think I know who posted that as you made comments on twitter. Its not going to work, your not gonna make me not like someone. If this is not who I think posted it and if you are a random person then I apologize for accusing you of being someone else. However, I’m a big girl I don’t need to be praised I do agree though we are all adults we shouldn’t act like we never heard words before, I had posted a couple before that and people liked them a couple didnt like the last one I posted. Anyways, no worries all I wont be posting no more. I never meant for an argument to start about them. Wow.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      hey @justmakemelaugh…

      you know I should probably learn my lesson and stop getting so involved with all of this but here goes:

      You posted some awesome jokes. You posted one I thought was a stinker. So you were 2 for 3. Big deal.

      Don’t let this deter you from posting or from being a apart of the blog.

      Shake it off, and stay over to play

    • klmh says:

      Please don’t judge this site by some negative remarks about only one of your jokes. You had some great ones and we all appreciate you taking the time to make us smile. Hope to see you again, with some more great jokes.

  65. Real Bullsh!t says:

    You ARE off base about Kyle and Kim.
    Because Kim’s fiance of 20+yrs ago was murdered – why is that considered a skeleton?
    Both are nice people, and both did the show for their own reasons. Kim is getting the short end of the stick. She may not currently have a husband, but her children are lovely and she has a lot to be proud of.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Respectfully it sounds as if you know them personally.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Fair enough..I’m giving my impressions based on what I see on the show, it seems as though you’re more informed, do you know them personally? We’d love to hear more, what are their reasons for doing the show?

      • Real Bullsh!t says:

        LA is a very superficial place, so it would be arrogant of me to call them friends, but rather acquaintances. I have had a lot of interaction with them over the years, including the kids and the hottie husband who can be a flirt.

        I read on another blog that they believe this tiff stems from the fact that C-word hit on Mauricio in Vegas, he blew her off, so she’s picking a fight with Kyle – which to me does not sound all that far fetched.

        But the reason I chimed in is because I think that Kim is getting a bad rap, and I hope the rest of the season supports my belief. That is all.

        • Real Bullsh!t says:

          correction…
          not a fact – a hunch

          • Noelle says:

            You bring up an interesting point in regards to Kyle/Kim. From what I’m viewing, I feel as though Kyle wants validation from the other HWs that she’s indeed Kim’s unglorified keeper. Not cool in my book.
            Sisterly relationships are a slippery-slope..even those that are close are dysfunctional at times. I guess I don’t like how Kyle acts so “put upon” with Kim. That bugs me.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          I hope so too!

          It sure did look like that C-word was flirting with not only Kyle’s husband but all the men…That sure would explain a lot.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Thanks for clarifying RB. For the record, I don’t think anyone here thinks poorly of Kim, just that she could have had her sisters back. I realize a good part is editing, but Kyles tears & comments confirmed what we were watching. Hey we all have our poorer moments now & then, but we are lucky not to have them filmed.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      @Real Bulls!t-
      No one has congratulated you on Camille’s new nic “C-word”. Nice job!
      pure comedic gold

  66. Sha2000 says:

    ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’s’ Teresa Giudice teaching $45 seminar on ‘how to have it all’

    http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_real_housewives_of_new_jerseys_teresa_giudice_teaching_45_seminar_on_how_to_have.html?r=gossip

  67. Sha2000 says:

    People Make fun of Jersey girls, but I say they are just pernicious.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yes – this is strange and if true, sadly a waste of time and money.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        IF this is true…I just don’t even know what to say.

        IF it’s fake…I just don’t even know what to say.

        It’s just making me sad and tired and grumpy.

        I need chocolate. Or wine. Something non internet related. Maybe I need a hunk o’hunk of burning love to amuse me for a few hours.
        Oh, who am I kidding, a few minutes will do nicely at this point.

      • I have and it explains a lot.
        I have a confession to make.
        I am slightly psychic. But there is no way I could have know all of that.
        I knew that something was going-on with 4chan. I was blocked from posting that here.
        And yes, I posted at 4chan the other nite when I was blocked here & on RCHW site.
        At first I was alarmed -if a detective wasted time in Twitter-wars.
        But that site is a gutter with photos of minors, so if there is an internet detective he should be there.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I am having a hard time keeping track of all the drama, there seems to be a few different stories and feuds going down. I just saw a post up head about WSL. I’m not even sure what the allegation is.

      I also am unaware of a twitter war. The only Laura I know of was the one who lives in NJ and saw Teresa, is that the Laura they are talking about?

  68. Yeah-I thought you did a pretty good job.

  69. never said i was leaving just said that i wasn’t posting no more jokes. didn’t mean to cause a stir that was all.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Glad to hear it and I hope you keep posting jokes. As someone else said, every joke tickles everyone differently, some will like em, some wont…no reason to stop posting them

  70. This www really is infested with pests!
    I blogged Countess Luann today.
    http://nyhousewives.blogspot.com/

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I see the pests are infesting here but you’d like them to visit your blog anyway…wow!

      Sort of like saying, you’re a bunch of bitches but I need you all to come to my party because you’re the only bitches in town.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        ROFLMAO Lynn Too funneee

      • UM-not really-but if you think so that’s fine.
        Just thought I’d share my blog post, but if you have a problem with that why don’t you say so?

        • I was just wondering if they were behind this whole WUP business? And how many of them you have here?
          But if you want to play with your little friends Lynn-that’s fine.
          Where did you ever get the idea that you were the only bitches talking about the Housewives?
          And what exactly is the WUP?

          • And Lynn- to clarify, I said the www. But I’m so happy to hear that you’ve noticed. I was almost worried that they had you tied-up under a bridge somewhere.
            I must have missed it when you changed all your rules and went-over to the dark side.

            • Waslurking says:

              YAWN!

            • Plus-it took me an hour to get that crown on Luann’s head. Of course I’m going to post it everywhere I go.

            • LynnNChicago says:

              Actually what you said was THIS www.

              I guess you missed the part on Twitter where someone actually called that cop in Wisconsin and its all true, thats a real cop and they’re doing a real investigation so no, I’m not pretending to be a cop on Twitter, no one here is.

              There is no dark side here, until the trolls come in. You do nothing but slam me, my blog and my readers so what are you doing here? Just here to promote your blog?

              You’ve done that

              • Huh? I did not say that you were the cop. I’m wondering if the internet detective is part-of this entire 4chan production that has been going-on.
                I’m just wondering how many of them are here really, besides OMIB, & that other one-OH-and that other one.
                Don’t you think its funny tha-well I’m running-out of space here, I really don’t think I can explain the entire set-up.
                Why don’t you ask OMIB?

  71. Zipit Zarin says:

    So, this horse walks in to a bar. Bartender says “Why the long face?”

  72. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston, get out the tinfoil, head down to the basement, and check your e-mail in about 20 mins. 😉

    • TrueLifeDiva the troll slayer says:

      Filling up reserve cans now…..

      • Noelle says:

        Hey TLD..what’s going on? Should we take cover? 😉

        • TrueLifeDiva the troll slayer says:

          Foil hats are being folded as fast as humanly possible. If you all have been taking notes in my Troll Slaying 101 course, one sign of a bridge dweller is feigned ignorance followed by extreme belligerence in the same discussion.

          • Noelle says:

            What happened to:”Don’t FEED Trolls” and they’d go away?…..New strain?

            • TrueLifeDiva the troll slayer says:

              New strain. Some trolls are born, some are created. Kinda like vampires. A perceived slight, a desire for popularity, jealousy, etc. Sometimes someone who was once cool gets bitten by the troll bug and catches the good people of the blogosphere unawares :-D. I see at least 3 running loose, there may be more….

              • Noelle says:

                I’m reading your response and am getting a visual of “Lost Boys,” the movie. LMAO!! 😀

                • TrueLifeDiva the troll slayer says:

                  I don’t know if you’re gonna get this or not but…
                  Here is a gift bag/troll kit stuffed with a foil hats, spray, and a request to stop speaking to people who do not make sense. You’re getting confused and upset by someone who is only here to do just that. Smooches!!! 😉

                  • justanothermary says:

                    Just FYI – when making foil hats I have found it wise to avoid the non-stick Reynolds Wrap. It slides right off your head and leaves and greasy residue.

  73. Zipit Zarin says:

    Random act of culture:

  74. @OneMoreinBoston….I left you a note upthread. just wanted you to know
    that the post you left for Justtomakeulaugh was very nice of you. :o)
    from, your Beverly, not crazy Danielle.

  75. Jinx says:

    Evening Lynn, evening everyone. I just read this tad bit of information from another site. Am posting it here asking what you make of it….

    November 19, 2010. There’s been a TOOON of drama this season on the Real Housewives Of Atlanta. But a lot of the drama has been surrounding the newest member, Phaedra Parks.

    You see, there’s been some question as to WHAT the date of her conception was. The rest of the castmates think that the baby was conceived BEFORE her wedding to husband Apollo. And they suspect that Phadera is LYING about the conception date – because she and her family are DEVOUT CHRISTIANS.

    Well MediaTakeOut.com spoke with an EXTREMELY reliable insider – one of Phaedra’s family members, who helped EXPLAIN to us the REAL DEAL of what was going down.

    The insider explained, “[Phaedra] had a difficult pregnancy. She nearly miscarried the child twice. Actually the day before she had the baby shower, she was admitted to the hospital, for bleeding.”

    And there’s more. MediaTakeOut.com’s insider continued, “Because of the difficult pregnancy there was talk [amongst the doctors and Phaedra] that she may have had to terminate the pregnancy [a late-term abortion] for health reasons. It can be done in the State of Georgia, but there’s a huge stigma towards late term abortion. So she figured that it would be better to just move up the date so that if tragedy struck, she wouldn’t have all of America scrutinizing her decision.”

    Luckily however, the pregnancy went off WITHOUT A HITCH and Phaedra and Apollo welcomed a beautiful BABY BOY into the world (FYI – the BIRTH show is on Sunday)

    So . . . there you have it DRAMA unfolded.

    • klmh says:

      I am sure if there was a problem, she would have been in a hospital on complete bed rest to protect both she and her baby. Sorry.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        I think giving blow-jobs to pickles is what saved the day, don’t you?

      • quincyil says:

        We did see her making phone calls from bed. She’s an older mom. Plus, here lips and face looked swollen. I believe she may have had high BP. It runs in some families.

        • klmh says:

          She was talking about having the baby removed at the beginning of this series. She was walking around, at work, at parties and living a normal pregnancy laden life. If she had been on bed rest during this season, I would agree with you, but from the get go, she has talked about this baby being taken 2 months before due date. She was trying to manipulate the timeline from the beginning to suit her needs.

    • lillybee says:

      I am glad that she had a healthy baby.

    • cusi77 says:

      Excuse me? If Phaedra had REALLY a high risk pregnancy why her Physician did not put her to rest in bed? It does not make any sense… When I was pregnant with my only child, my water broke at 28 weeks, my Gynecologist manage to put me in completely rest so my son could develop her lungs, gain weight, to have more chances of survival. He was born at 31 weeks with a weight of 4.5 Lbs. NOT 9! Sorry the EXTRIMELY reliable insider -like my favourite Judge Judy would said is BALLONEY. IMO.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      So why make up stories? If you have a high risk pregnancy and almost losing the baby twice why are you doing a reality show? And nine months will always be nine months!

      • They have the funniest comments at MTO-my favorite so far:
        “blackboodiebandit
        I BEEN WIT HIM AND THOUGHT I FELT HEAVAN. KILL ME AGAIN SO I CAN GO TO HEAVAN FOR A PEECE OF THIS MAN. HE IS PERFECT.
        —————
        SMASHIN ONE BOODIE AT A TIME”-(mto comments)

    • Real Bullsh!t says:

      Uhmmm…no.

      What astounds me is that this woman would rather be perceived as a liar and a dumbass, than someone who engages in premarital sex.

      • klmh says:

        I suppose if she says it over and over again some might believe her, especially the people in her church class.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      Not buying it.

      • justanothermary says:

        I did some research (yes I have way too much time on my hands) and 7 mos is the gestation period of spider monkeys. Perhaps she was impregnated at the zoo?

  76. klmh says:

    I have a prayer I would like to share with you:

    I DO NOT HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU BABY JESUS.
    MY IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

  77. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I think that family member was towing the Phaedra bs line. For someone with a difficult pregnancy she sure kept working, planned and danced at her shower, waddled at parking lot estate sales and much more. She was full term and we all know it!

  78. lillybee says:

    Doctors will not terminate a last semester baby. They would deliver it and hope it survives like Josie Duggar. Still I have never heard of a 7lb 7 month baby.

  79. Zipit Zarin says:

    cusi, I watched Belle Du Jour with Catherine Deneuve this week. It was fabulous of course. Surreal before David Lynch ever heard of it hehe. You’ve probably seen it but if you haven’t I highly recommend it. You don’t know what part is the protagonists fantacy and what is real. Maybe the whole thing is in her head. Fan Tastic!

    • cusi77 says:

      Yes, I watched it long time ago. I beleive it was Bunuel’s work of art. I would like to watch it again! Is Fernando Rey her co-star?

        • cusi77 says:

          Wow! I liked her for sooo long. Last week I watched a movie with her made last year… Catherine is a great artist but she did some surgery in her face and lost expression… She is just 66 she did not need to do that!

          The movie was great, but painful to see her phony face… more than her cartoon. In that instance I admire Brigitte Bardot who decided to get old with dignity and refusing anything unnatural.

          • cusi77 says:

            @ Zipit_Where did you find Belle de Jour to watch?

            • Zipit Zarin says:

              Catherine let them take a knife to her face??? What movie was it? I got the movie at the library. You can rent 10 movies at a time for a week. FREE. What a country! 😀

              • Zipit Zarin says:

                I saw Dancing In The Dark with Catherine and Byork. OMG, it was THE most depressing movie in the history of the universe. DO NOT WATCH IT.

  80. realminkey says:

    Lynn and everyone else, thank you so much for getting me through another one of the more trying days of what has been a long trying time. It’s still don’t ask, don’t tell, but at some point, I’ll be willing to share.

    Anyway, just a big collective hug.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{realminkey}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

      • realminkey says:

        Thank you Zipit. Geez, wish I was gay, but damn that’s not the prob. lol

        • cusi77 says:

          (((((( hugs to Minkey ))))))))

          Hang in there. When you feel sharing, this is the place, dear!

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          LOL for real at that one. I have to tell you, if you ever want to spill the people here (except for the assholes) are megga supportive and trustworthy. I found out first hand. Of course, I never got so trusting that I actually said my real name but… 😀

        • Noelle says:

          Best wishes realminkey!
          It will get better, two steps forward..one step back but still on your way to a brighter day! (cliche, I know, but was always told this by someone dear.)
          xxx

    • mariareads says:

      Hang in there realminkey! I have had a bad time this past year and I know each one of us can speak about it when the time is right for US. Seems to me there are many supportive people here. I am going to continue posting as long as Bravo keeps that RHNJ away from me! Hope you are better each day in some way!

    • klmh says:

      Hope things resolve themselves without any more pain for you and yours.

  81. realminkey says:

    Thank you so much.

  82. nepenthe says:

    Camille’s already a sad, empty woman but, now more than ever, she’s destined to be the ultimate Bev Hills cliche….a rich divorcee who ‘effs her pool boy because no man of substance is interested in her. By Bev Hills standards she’s lost the glow of youth and is damaged goods. However, when a wealthy older man is looking for replacement snatch, younger &prettier, it poses no problem. Life’s cruel for an ex-trophy wife. MEOW.

  83. cusi77 says:

    I will say “Good night” My pillow is missing me… Have a sweet dreams and a happy day tomorrow!

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Nite cusi. I got a new laptop and it’s slower than my old dinosaur for some reason. Argh.

      • quincyil says:

        It’s security. It slows down every thing. Talk to someone who knows about computers. Some of the private firewalls duplicate and they can be turned off. Microsoft and Norton fight each other too. Some of the Microsoft can be turned off.

        When I get a new computer, my son takes a lot of the programs off too. He knows what I use.

        Trust me, you will notice an improvement.

  84. TLM says:

    It looks like I am back in the Land of the Disappearing Posts again….I had a rant about Camille that never posted, although it said I have a duplicate when I tried to re-post. To reiterate: Camille is a desperate old cougar who may as well have “insecure” tatooed on her Botoxed forehead. The reason being that if she didn’t have Kelsey to talk about, she would have nothing at all to talk about and nothing going on in her life. Even now, it’s probably, “Kelsey used to say” this and “Kelsey used to do” that with her every 10 seconds. I am even sorry now that I can’t even see old Frasier reruns without hearing that bitch whining about packing for Hawaii in my head.

    The RHONJ You Tube clip above was beyond hysterical, especially with the Kim G character. All really well cast!

    I confess I skim over much of the posts since there are so many entries anymore, but it seems like people are having issues with people on Twitter. Personally I don’t have the time for Twitter…I can’t even keep up reading here, let alone having to follow Twitter comments, and I got sick of Twitter people posting Living Social stuff and other obvious ads to make money. That resuled in my unfollowing several people. I still don’t understand why almost 90 people follow me on there, since I rarely post anything. I am more likely to follow people on Facebook than Twitter, but even there I get bored and have stopped following all Bravo-lebrities. I briefly followed Gigi from Jerseylicious, then un-followed her when there was really no info posted there. It seems either people post a million things a la Kirstie Alley and are shamelessly self-promoting, or they put next to nothing. Or they are engaged in petty fights. I just can’t get interested in it.

  85. mariareads says:

    Hate that! You look forward to something to replace your clunker and then it disappoints! Hope it’s just a glitch and you can find a way to work through it. I bought an HP laptop from QVC and it’s fine, but I much prefer my 3 year old MacBook Pro.
    I never thought I would ever say that! I used to hate this thing. Well, I still hate it sometimes but I have become so used to it. Husband has a Dell which I won’t touch. Don’t want to hear it if he is working on it, gets stuck and then asks me if I was on the computer. Men are big babies when it comes to this stuff LOL!

  86. Zipit Zarin says:

    I joined Face Book to keep in touch with my huge family. Some of my more immature relatives are into the game of “He Who Has The Most Friends Wins” game. I’m into honing my circle down to those I give a rip about. It’s the old quality vs. quantity thang. Imelda Marcos was into quantity. Me, not so much.

  87. mariareads says:

    Hmmm Facebook. I refuse to be “friends” with my a cat who has out last name.
    Which idiot nephew this belongs to I am blissfully unaware of. I’m a Facebook egit. I couldn’t understand why all my relatives were farming. They wanted me to plow or seed for them. Hey! I have enough to do here without carrying a sack of seed and tossing it on their facebook crops!

  88. mariareads says:

    Excuse me. My post looks like it was written by a drunk. That should be “with a cat who has our last name” YEESH! It’s late. DH is sleeping and I should be too. But it’s so much fun to be the only one awake. No one can call and ask you to do a survey for them. FEY!

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I hear ya on the farm thingie. I friended a man because he was recommended by a friend…I’m single and she thought this would be ..ahem. Well, the ONLY thing he as “said” to me on FB is giving me farm crap. I’ve said over and over I DO NOT HAVE A FARM but he keeps giving me farm crap like it’s a gift or a way to communicate. WTF Welp, I’m thinking he’s deaf. Or blind. Not that there’s anything wrong with being deaf or blind but…

  89. Adgirl says:

    @Zipit
    To me Living Small is the best revenge.

    I (who used to be the #1 online salesperson at a huge newspaper) do not twitter. My facebook has no picture, zero entries and only ocassional replies to the postings of others.
    Because of the creepo Salahi wannabes that harassed me, I don’t use Linkedin either. It’s kind of nice being off the grid, although challenging professionally.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Adgirl, Off The Grid is a perfect way to put it. I wish it was possible but in this day and age we get on camera just driving past a stop light. Google owns our asses. Privacy? Pfft. The movie Brazil seemed like a future I would never see but I’m seeing it now. Who woulda thunk getting on an airplane would give the Government the right to molest me..and right in front of everyone? If anyone but a TSA agent did that it would be a felony. The terrorists are so laughing at what we are doing to ourselves.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Oh, but if you wear a Burkah they won’t molest you. Insanity rules this particular eon.

        • floridagirl88 says:

          Hmmm, now I think you are on to something. Maybe we should all go down to Burka’s Are Us and wear them to the airport on our next flight. It sounds like we could get through security faster. Yes, I’m going to think long on this one.

      • Adgirl says:

        ICAM. I can’t believe the pictures!! I wonder if the TSA employees are being agressive because they hate touching people and want the public to demand the groping stop.

        If I traveled for my job I would demand extra pay for the airport time and the physical assault/or exposure to extra radiation.
        Gaaa!

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          You know what is even more insane? Making pilots go thru it. HELLO! The pilot might storm the cockpit and take over the airplane? THAT IS WHAT HE/SHE does! Go into the cockpit and take over the plane and fly it!

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            Remember the line “There is no fighting in here! This is the war room!” ROFL We truly have gone into the Twilight Zone.

          • Kellita says:

            I know! That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. Why scan the pilots to see if they have a weapon?? Hello-They could fly the dang plane into a building if they want to! That’s where common sense goes completely out the window.

      • karrylin says:

        wow…yes, Exactly!
        bummer…huh?

  90. Zipit Zarin says:

    It only took one guy to say “If you touch my junk I’ll have you arrested” for the country to snap out of it and stop being sheeple.

  91. Zipit Zarin says:

    I think I’ll call him the Airport Ghandi from now on. He didn’t resort to violence. He just resisted. 😀

    • quincyil says:

      WLS radio in Chicago has been discussing this for days and he was interviewed. They radio hosts and the young man agreed that the TSA/US government would go after him and punish him. This bothers me because I think they are correct. He will be harassed and possibly charged with resisting because of his brave actions. He’s a hero to me.

      • Had Enough! says:

        I don’t know. I don’t like the intrusiveness either. I don’t like the fact that the terrorists won. But of the two evils, I’ll take intrusiveness over having a plane blown up in flight any day of the week.

        Let’s not forget that some numb-nuts (pun-intended) taped explosives to his nuts…and tried to blow up a plane. It isn’t like someone just made up this shit. It really happened. Think about that next time you fly and they ask you to go through the machine or be patted down. What if the guy behind you has explosives taped to his nuts or the cray cray lady has a little surprise up her vajayjay?

        • SpunkyMonkey says:

          So what next…cavity searches? And the guy who had the explosives taped to his nuts was not stopped by TSA…they didn’t find them. It was passengers.

  92. Zipit Zarin says:

    Ok, I’m talking to myself now. Although I do find myself very pity, I’ll take myself out of here and spare y’all. LOL

    Nitol

  93. LurkerAlso says:

    Ha! Goodnight, ZZ! (There! Now you’re not talking to yourself anymore).

  94. KookADoodleDo says:

    “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Pecking Order”
    http://blogs.laweekly.com/stylecouncil/2010/11/real_housewives_beverly_hills_5.php

  95. Noelle says:

    @Kat,
    I miss my fellow insomniac…sending {{{{hugs}}}} 😉 !
    I’ve been cleaning, a lot, (making up for lost time…I think I may have a Jeffery Lewis type-cleaning syndrome in me 😦 , YIKES!) lol
    Hope your well sweet-pea!
    xoxo

  96. ilovelynn says:

    jeez! I don’t read the blog for one day and that’s when all the trolls come out! WTF is wrong with these people? this is such a great blog! get the hell out of here and go to TWOP! (is that even still around?) anyway, fabulous blog as usual, lynn. you must be so tired of this sh*t.

    btw, has anyone commented on the “dancing with the stars” brouhaha? all I can say is, if bristol palin wins, get ready for president palin in 2012!

  97. TLM says:

    I notice there is a “your comment is awaiting moderation” now for new posts, yet the post appears on the page to me. I am wondering if the posts are visible to others?

    More on Camille:
    The woman says “eviscerate” and “pernicious.” It looks like Kelsey taught her a few words. It’s too bad he didn’t teach her how to pronounce “realtor.”

  98. error404 says:

    Ugh.. I can’t find the original post, but someone above commented on Kyle being only 5′-2″ tall… if you look a the ensemble photos, only Kyle and Adrienne wear those huge platform heels, and they’re still the two shortest! Adrienne seems to be the shortest, which I guess helps explain why it takes her 45 minutes to cross the street. lol

    • quincyil says:

      That was me. I saw that Adrienne had difficulty walking from gate to gate.

      These shoes remind me of the shoes the aristocracy and upper class used for little girls in China. They would bind the feet of the girls so that they could not grow. The bones would become mishappen and women could not walk. They were carried by servants.

      I never wear heels as the husband is not that tall. I don’t have feet problems such as bunions and my feet never ever hurt. Listen to Lisa, as she went to the private plane complain about how much those shoes hurt her feet.

      I have known friend that had pain in gym shoes because they were so used to heels and the muscles in the lower legs had changed.

  99. OneMoreInBoston says:

    …is it safe?…

    Good morning sunshines!

    My sweet Baboo brought over some chocolate martini fixings last night during Blog-Gate, and just decided to turn turned off the hostility for the night.

    Thank you, thank you for all the tin foil hats, shout out to TLD who outdid herself with my newest chapeau. How ever did you make all of the roses out of tinfoil?

    I can’t let Teresa see them or she get ideas and start making tinfoil hairbands for her bambinos.

    Luckily we don’t travel in the same social circles, you know like bankruptcy court- so I think we’re safe.

  100. ilovelynn says:

    where is everybody! just read the gawker recap and one of the comments was, ” can we talk about the framed dress in adrianne’s closet?” yeah, what was up with that? do you think it was her wedding gown?

    I guess everyone is outside enjoying the day. I’m trying the apple pie receipe that one of the posters put in boston’s blog.(the one with the brown sugar and stuff melted in a sauce pan with butter and then poured over the apples. watching it bubble through the oven door and it looks like it’s going to be a “heart attack on a plate”. can’t wait to taste it!) sorry, I’ll look up my “friend’s” name in the next posting I do. I’m having a senior moment!

  101. ilovelynn says:

    thank god, someone is here, good morning boston!

    KMUELLFA! that’s whose receipe it is!

    • kmuellfa says:

      OMG, It’s a perfect day here for apple pie! Let me know how it turns out!

      • ilovelynn says:

        fabulous! mr Ilovelynn is away for a few days so I can sit and eat it and if I want to go in the kitchen in the middle of the nite for more I don’t have to sneak it.lol. my “boys”(dogs) get to lick the plates!(notice I said plates, plural!) wanted to try it before thanksgiving to see how it was, so now I can make it for my family on thursday!(my birthday is friday so I keep telling myself it’s my early present from me to me!)

  102. quincyil says:

    Looking at the reactions of the women in BH to the small talk on the plane and behind Camille’s back, I am reminded of the western city in IL where I live. People do this all of the time and when one of the very nice participants in that discussion forum decided to share with the person being discussed it stings like a cobra’s bit. I’ve been there. It’s hard to pretend that you know nothing about the pernicious conversation. If you do confront as I believe in the Dark Ages, I did once, it only leads to denials and more trouble as that person will share her shock as the question like the ripples of a stone when dropped into water.

    Camille is all about image. She has created one that we were supposed to see each week on our TV sets. We were to see the generous friend who loans out houses and cars and helps everyone in the hot tub. We were to see the charitable Camille flying to a “Cheers” charity in Hawaii. We were to see the lifestyle of the wife of the greatest actor in the Universe. Then, after filming for months, Bravo created a different version of Camille and she is crying foul. She even had to leave twitter because she is misunderstood.

    Most of the conflict between the women in all of these series came when someone said or did something behind someone else’s back. The women go into this process because they want fame and they get infamy.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Okay – I’m trying to see this from Camille’s perspective.

      She invites her pseudo-friends to her oh-so-famous-husband’s premier. She does this because it’ll look good on TV and the theme of this show is let’s get together in other cities and have a luxurious time, and be spoiled. So – she is doing them a favor and trying to be a good and gracious hostess, as Adrienne has already been.

      She goes out of her way to make sure they are at a nice hotel, and get signed autographs from the cast.

      She learns that they all think she’s insecure and have basically had a group gossip fest about her on the way to the event she has graciously put together, and since she doesn’t even know these women (except maybe Adrienne who wasn’t there, and Lisa) and has no basis to trust them, she gets really upset.

      Sometimes people just don’t like each other, and I think that was the case with Kyle and Camille. Then put that together with Camille possible feeling like this particular story line was about her, and Kyle shouldn’t be making her feel bad – overreacted.

      Now – if she had just not done the talking head thing and made us realize that she was truly certifiable, she might have gotten a little sympathy. But in the end she was her own worst enemy.

      And Taylor – grrrrr – I don’t like that woman. She stirred that all up, and now she’s been busted.

      • Error404 says:

        I’m with the Rippas on this one. Who actually thinks, nevermind comes right out and says “they must hate me because they are jealous of me” . And mark and Kelly IMO have a lot more to be jealous of than Camille!

      • that was for Quincy, not that i didn’t agree w/ what Housewifeaddict said, but, oh crap, nevermind

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Too funny. I sure went OT with my little thoughts though. After I read Quincy’s post I got to thinking about the gossip and Camille feeling left out – and almost felt sorry for her – for a second LOL.

  103. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @JustAnotherMary,
    I’m constructing a special Pink Ribbon troll hat for you. With a few “tracks” added in the back for glamour. ;-). Purse size sprays for everyone coming soon too!

    • justanothermary says:

      Awwwww, thanks so much TLD. That’s the nicest thing anyone has done for all day! Hell, it the ONLY thing anyone has done for me today. That fact, however does nothing to detract from your kindness!

  104. Adgirl says:

    NY Magazine does a hilarious recap scene by scene in the casts “own” words.

    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/real_housewives_beverly_hills_4.html

    9. After the Show, Camille and Kelsey Reunite As Strangers
    Camille: Oh, hello!
    Kelsey: Oh God, it’s you. Okay, peck and recoil. Can you get out of my dressing room, please? Before my next wife walks in?
    Camille: I’m going to make you sweat a little first. Ooh, look at the pretty flowers! Can you sign these programs for the skanks on my show?
    Kelsey: Sure, sure! Just go away.
    Camille: She’s in the closet, isn’t she?

  105. housewifeaddict says:

    Right ladies. I’m out of here for a bit of high class shopping. Also known as replacing my worn out jeans (3 years and counting) that I can’t live without. Jeesh – do you think I’ll be the next one cast for a real housewives show?

  106. Adgirl says:

    Yes! Housewifeaddict Taylor IS a shit stirrer!
    She’s the straw that stirs the cocktail so to speak.

    I can understand Taylor possibly not remembering saying or agreeing that Camille is insecure at the airport.
    (I thought Taylor said: She feels insignificant Kim: She’s insecure? Taylor: Yes.)
    I can’t remember when I last changed my dirty sox let alone what I may have said to my fake friend about my other fake friend.

    But how could Taylor “forget” or deny that she threw everyone under the bus when she was with Camille 20 minutes earlier upstairs in her hotel room???
    hmmmmm??
    ‘Splain dat Taylor!!

    Taylor, I’ll bet you would listen to a speaker phone conversation without letting the person on the other end know you were there.
    Wouldn’t you LuAnn?! err Taylor???

  107. justanothermary says:

    For some reason Kim really annoys me. I get that she’s not real social and is very fragile but why? And if she needs help, get it! I understand she was a “child star”, but I was on Romper Room and have gone on to live a fairly normal life. I just think that if she is half the basket case she appears to be, she should get some right-now help.

    • Adgirl says:

      OMG You were on Romper Room?! I loved that show, and the various Miss Nancy’s.

      I was on our local lids shows Mr Art and Captain Satelitte. Apparently I would be perfectly cast on a RH show because I had a tantrum when I didn’t win the camera.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        Uncle Al for me. Was on it a couple of times. They did not have regulars, the kids changed every week.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Kim shouldn’t be on the show. She must have been talked into it.

      • Adgirl says:

        I can’t tell if she wanted to be on or not. She strikes me as the type that would dig in if she didn’t want to do something (like hide in her closest). She probably thinks it’s a route back to acting.
        I do agree that the live aspect is too much for Kim. She is timid and unsure of herself without a script. She doesn’t seem to be enjoying herself. I don’t think Kyle is having much fun either.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Maybe Kyle persuaded her to do it for some reason – like getting back in the spotlight, or maybe they wouldn’t take Kyle without her – although I doubt it because Kyle has a great screen presence. I would guess (and it’s early in the season so hard to say now) that she won’t be back next year.

    • lillybee says:

      I think that Kim may be suffering from depression.

    • Error404 says:

      The only time I feel bad for Kim or question if she should be on the show, is when I read comments like this.
      I reallydont get all of the Kim hate, don’t consider her “abnormal”, and actually find her a refreshing change to the criminally insane the show usually attracts. Really? After watching Jill, Danielle, Kelly, Tamara, Alexis, Kim z, phaedra, teressa, etc… Kim Richards is he one that irks you? Lol

    • JKW says:

      justanothermary…My brownie troop went to Romper Room too. My mother was so upset. I saw the screens that you could see the audience and sat through most of it watching them with my back to the camera. Oh yea, there is the back of my daughters head. Then we went to visit an airport and my damn beanie blew across the runway.

  108. justanothermary says:

    OT – I just noticed that at the bottom of my computer screen there’s a little picture of Lynn and when I click it I go immediately to her blog! Probably shouldn’t admit it, but I have no idea how it got there or when, but how’s that for a convenient way to feed my addiction?

  109. housewifeaddict says:

    I’ve got a new game for myself today. I’m going to think of 10 things I like about Jill Zarin. If this works I may move on to Camille – but that will be harder because I barely know anything about her. At least with Jill I’ve got the first two seasons to draw from. Oh – and no one will hurt my feelings if they disagree – because – well we all know why we’re posters on this site.

    counting down

    10 – I like Jill’s daughter Ally.
    9 – I like Jill’s husband Bobby.
    8 –

    I’m going to think about this a little more while I’m offline. There have to be a few more things ….

    • Adgirl says:

      I think Jill has really nice hair. Also I want her jewelry. And her handbags.

    • Error404 says:

      Camille’s kids are very attractive, which makes me think the surrogate must have been some looker. I just don’t see camille’s eggs and kelsey’s sperm creating a thing of beauty.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I don’t think the kids would have any of the surrogate’s genes – don’t they implant a fertilized embryo?

        • Error404 says:

          Oh, I’m just suspicious of anything that comes out of that womans mouth. Would we really all be shocked to find their his illegitment kids?

  110. Adgirl says:

    I think the thing that bothers me the most about Camille (aside from the obvious) is that we never, ever, ever hear anything from her about being a mother. That she enjoys being a mom. That she always wanted to abe a mom. That being a mom is her Job and she loves it. Her kids are awesome and fun and she learns something new everyday.
    Nope. Nothing. Never. Nada.

    Does she even know those short people who live in her mansion somewhere?

    Jill is a far better person just based on this. Jill was awful to her “close” friend Bethenny and purposely humilated her several times on TV. However Jill loves her daughter immensely.

    • TLM says:

      It is very odd. She seems to be incredibly self-centered and focused on herself and Kelsey. With Four nannies for two kids, plus her tennis and extracurricular activities, she can’t be seeing much of the kids. She has never explained why she had them via surrogate.

      • Adgirl says:

        Supposedly it is due to Irritable Bowel Syndrome and perhaps the meds she takes for it are bad for fetuses.
        I don’t know much about IBS.
        I do know that she gives the impression that her children are a marriage related acquisition that are no more interesting to her than having to purchase homeowners insurance for one of her 17 houses. A necessary but dull by product of the marriage. Move on.

    • Kellita says:

      I completely agree. Maybe it’s the “editing” (snark) but she is surely not going to win Mother of the Year. She doesn’t appear to do jack with or for her kiddos. It’s sad.

  111. amy says:

    Me at Jill’s eulogy:
    “Camille was worse”

  112. amy says:

    That’s an old joke about people who were trying to say something nice about an disliked guy who died. The punchline “his brother was worse”.

  113. amy says:

    Sorry, lame joke.

  114. Christine says:

    Lynn, This is my absolute favorite blog. At least twice a week I pour my coffee, light my cigarette (sorry, still smoking) and just laugh my way through the recent blgs and comments. You and your loyal followers are the brightest and funniest group I have found. I am a reality show addict and the Housewives are the biggest bunch of train wrecks ever but I just can’t get enough of them. This blog is soooo different from the crazed fans of the likes of Teresa, Caroline, Jill, kelly and Michaele, you know the ones that make you question anyone’s sanity. All of you dear people, keep up the good posts and thank you for my hours of pleasure and entertainment.

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