I Hate Jill Zarin Alex & Simon – Guest Blog

My black limo pulled up at 12:30 pm on Sunday. The driver got on the FDR Drive and went South to Cobble Hill Brooklyn b4 the Wall St. area you make a loop off the FDR and go East across the Brooklyn Bridge to Brooklyn .I wish I could tell you directions to the Cobble Hill area but it was only my 2nd time in Brooklyn.

Cobble Hill is filled w/beautiful old historic town houses. These historic  town houses are 3-4 floors ,usually having 2 rooms per floor. Most r about 25′ wide and many “attached” houses share a wall with the house next to it so most don’t have windows on the longest part of the house.

I arrived for Johan & Francois’ party on time at 1pm. There were lots of balloons tied on the railing on the steps. There were pumpkins on every step & the pumpkin smell was very inviting herd laughter & saw the door wasn’t locked so I walked in.

At least 15 kids were darting around mostly running downstairs and out to the two-story blow up jumping/bouncing “kid ride”. The living room was just  like what we saw when Fog Horn helped Alex & Simon decorate. The difference was that the red walls are not so bright but a pretty deep red. The black & white accents do not dominant the room as seen on TV but compliment. The beautiful hand carved molding s are exceptionally elegant.  Jill should be put in the hall of shame for suggesting that they be removed when she offered advice (stupidity). It was ignorant to suggest removing historic art whose value is irreplaceable.

Cobble Hill Brooklyn is known for its beautiful historic homes & most home owners decorate around the beautiful carvings. There are 2 wonderful chandeliers that also add to the charm. It is a lovely combination of old & new that blends together to create a very cool look & feel. The dining room which was entered thru gigantic carved pocket doors, had deep grey walls and had an Art Deco feel. The large glass table had 8 retro suede rolled back chairs. The second black crystal chandelier hung over the table.    All the floors had the beautiful 6″ planks painted black ,w/a cool sheen. Alex’s kitchen was to die for. A restaurant, 8 burner stove sat atop a bakers oven. The appliances were stainless steel. All looked great against the black wooden floors. There  were three 10′ blond wood cabinets  that all NY ers would covet. There was a large island of blond wood  that everyone gathered around.

The very long (completed) wooden stair case led to 2 bedrooms and an office. The boys had  typical bunk beds and a room Filled w/toys & books & art projects.
The master bed room was huge. It had brownish red or mahogany floors & walls. Everything reflected order & peace with the very clean lines. There were beautiful black and white portraits hanging on the wall. Of course there was a very large walk in closet full of arty clothes picked out by Simon 🙂  There was a large glass door that led to the garden/playground (complete w/swings).
Back to the party. The adults had Mimosa’s.  Alex baked delicious Australian meat & vegetable pastries.
The children had a fun display of juice boxes & kid snacks on the dining room hunt board. The boys & girls could help them selves.
I enjoyed a couple of hours of adult conversation while the kids ran in & out & visited their parents for a hug etc.

I talked to a very attractive man for a while & finally asked him which was his wife ? He answered “My wife has a penis !”. The surrounding group & I all roared w/laughter as we were gathered round the kitchen island. I commented that the 3 birthday parties in the last BH show that the birthday parties were not as fun as this even if it didn’t cost $60 000. No one responded.  Alex gave me a look w/her eyes letting me know  to stop. Then she whispered in my ear that no one here watched the shows. She said to these neighbors & friends she & Simon were just the parents of their boys.

Later Alex introduced me to a bubbly gal & said “She watches”. We had a fun chat but mostly about non house wife topics. Next there was a magician who gave a fun magic show  that entertained us all. He was particularly good at making things disappear. The children squealed w/delight. Finally Alex brought out a chocolate fudge cake & parents & kids devoured it.
I was very impressed w/how well-behaved the boys were. They were told that their present’s were to b opened after everyone left.
If it had been me at that age I would have gone around & told people to “Go home”.
After 3 1/2 hrs my car was outside.  I got a sweet hug from the boys. Simon & Alex said good by.  I look forward to more fun times with a very sweet & fun family.

By:  Wall St Lady

Thank you Wall St Lady for this amazing story, it made me feel like I was there with you. ~Lynn

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457 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Alex & Simon – Guest Blog

  1. Adgirl says:

    Wow. That sounded like a lot of fun!! A perfect kids party.

    What terrific parents and people A&S are. It’s so extra cool that most of their friends don’t watch The Show. I can’t imagine anyone else of any RH cast that doesn’t talk about their show and fame incessantly.

    WSL, great to hear from you. Thank you for sharing!

  2. Kellita says:

    Thanks for sharing your story, WSL! Love hearing about Alex and Simon, and that they are as sweet as they appear on the show. My sister, bro-in-law and baby niece are moving to Brooklyn from NJ as soon as their co-op is completed. I can’t wait to visit them soon and take a little tour.

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  4. American Idiot says:

    Thanks for sharing, WSL. Hope all is well with you. Sounds like Alex and Simon and the boys are a nice, normal family. Very refreshing.

  5. Kansas Girl says:

    Thanks, WSL! This was very interesting. Good to know they are just like the people we see on the screen (or even better), and to also have the perspective of what the house really looks like. (They always say the camera makes people fatter. Apparently the camera makes people’s houses somewhat less attractive, but their behavior comes across accurately. LOL!)

    How did it come about for you to be invited?

  6. LynnNChicago says:


    “Να ζήσεις και χρόνια πολλά” (Na zisis ke hronia polla (Greek)

    Happy Happy Birthday
    Nancy !
    LynnFam singing loudly on key !

    The Dutchess made your carrot cake and it is under your bed.

    Nancy is the best friend u could have. On the other hand don’t cross her, she is not an enemy u want to have.

    Damn she has been a good friend to me. (WSL)

    November 20 is the 324th day of the year (325th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 41 days remaining until the end of the year. .

    Did u know in Nov. 20
    1789 – New Jersey became the first U.S. state to ratify the Bill of Rights.(Wish they would unradify all NJ Hos )

    1820 – An 80-ton sperm whale attacks the Essex (a whaling ship from Nantucket, Massachusetts) 2,000 miles from the western coast of South America (Herman Melville’s 1851 novel Moby-Dick is in part inspired by this story).

    Emillo Pucci
    Allister Cook &
    Robert F. Kennedy, are birthday
    Buddies born Nov. 20th too.

    November 20th, Scorpios. are
    complex and complicated and can be truthful to the point of recklessness. (If I have BO I would want to know !)
    Loyalty is practically a religion to them. Although they dislike change, they are often instrumental in bringing it about in the lives of others. They strive for achievement, eager to prove that “good guys” finish first.

    Friends and Lovers

    November 20 people make the best friends and the worst enemies. Family forms the centerpiece of their lives. They are devoted to their spouse and will work hard to keep the romance and passion alive.

    Children and Family

    The personality and character of November 20 people are closely allied to what they were taught as children. They experience their greatest joy through parenthood. They adore their children and involve themselves in all aspects of their upbringing.


    Because of their strong emotional nature, November 20 men and women understand the value of daily meditation. Opportunities to listen to their inner voice help them control their emotions. Regular physical exercise also helps.

    Career and Finances

    November 20 people are driven and gravitate toward high-powered careers. Success and money are not enough to pique their professional interest. Their work may be related to environmental concerns, one of their favorite causes. They are expert at finances. These men and women save carefully and can show a flair for investing.

    Dreams and Goals

    The most important achievement in the lives of November 20 people is to make their family happy. After that, they will turn toward other dreams, such as creating change. They refuse to let go of dreams no matter how impractical.

    Scorpio Information
    for November 20

    You should embrace: Moderation, self-love, priorities

    You should avoid:
    Showmanship, bragging, harsh judgments

    Let’s toast ur Mom for producing a WONDERFUL lady we love !

    Many Many Happy returns
    Dear Nancy !
    from: Wall St. Lady

  7. housewifeaddict says:

    WSL – thanks for sharing the story. It’s refreshing to hear about them as real people with actual friends. I have to LOL for you trying to talk RHWBH with the guests – but that’ s why you have us!!

  8. AZ Girl says:

    Thank you WSL. Glad you are back. Taylor could really learn from Alex and Simon on how to make your children birthday party all about them.

  9. cusi77 says:

    OH MY! Thank for sharing WSL! I adore you! As Lynn said “I feel like I was there! What a great reconteur you are! Wow! Beautiful Photo! Wow! wow! wow!

    Now. Thanks Miss Lynn! Could I have an extra cookie por this joke? (this is Kindergarten no?)

    Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter.


  10. housewifeaddict says:

    All right – continuing my game to identify 10 things I like about Jill Zarin.

    10 – I like Jill’s daughter Ally
    9 – I like Jill’s husband Bobby
    8 – I like Jill’s hair (thanks Adgirl – wouldn’t have gotten that one by myself)
    7 – I like that Jill has promoted charities that support arthritis on the show.
    6 – I like that Jill helped Alex and Simon pick out their drapes – and did seem to know something about the fabric choice at Zarin fabrics (I like fabric stores – especially interesting ones and WSL’s post made me remember the drapes)
    5 – I like parts of Jill’s lifestyle – such as getting to wear designer clothes, and going to fashion shows. If I was rich and didn’t have to work – I’d like to be able to do that.
    4 – I like that Jill has never been drunk on camera (sorry NeNe, but drunk and mad at your husband isn’t pretty)

    I’m out of ideas for now – but I’m sure I’ll be able to think of a few more ….

    • American Idiot says:

      Jill introduced Alex and Simon to the school administrator when they were looking for a preschool? or kindergarten? for one of the boys.

    • Had Enough! says:

      I like that Jill really does seem to be keeping a low profile and paying more attention to the things that really matter in life – her friends and family. Not to say she doesn’t slip once in a while, but I have to give her props for doing exactly what everyone said she should do: back away from the twitter and the facebook and go back to enjoying what should be a really wonderful life.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        And I like that she brought us all together. So that’s 10 – done 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        Had enough, there are back street rumors that Jill has not changed her spots. They are filming so she is quiet as per contract. She has been out of the country twice now during this time also.

        If everyone gets along perfectly during the filming of NYC, it will be their last season. Do we really want to spend our time listening the the Countess sing or Ramona selling her wine line, her jewelry line, her make up line, and her discount clothing line?

    • sophie says:

      Agree! I also like her sister.

  11. boston02127 says:

    WSL—-I’m dying!!! You’re so lucky. It sounds like you had a good time. Alex & Simon seem so normal. I’m wondering if they still have the big picture of Mick Jagger? Thanks for the great blog.

  12. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Wonderful blog, it sounds like it was such a relaxed and NORMAL party, I’m so glad you shared with us!

    Thank you!

  13. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet: Just donated two boxes of cheerios to shelter in east. Every bit helps. Diapers are a big item. Donate diapers if u can.

    I’m just going to leave this here and see if anyone else is thinking the same thing I am.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      That Kelly is crazy? That donating cheerios – big whoop – why isn’t this woman making a real difference – isn’t she supposed to be rich? Am I close?

      • klmh says:

        They make lovely necklaces and earrings especially when accompanied by feathers.

        • quincyil says:

          In Illinois, we give awards for the most items donated. How many cheerios are in a box? I bet she’s in line for another most charitable of the year reward.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Wondering if the boxes of cereal were already opened?

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Why she didn’t donate cases of diapers, different sizes herself?

      That she spent 7-8 bucks and wants folks to spend 20?

      That she’s a crazy cheap bitch! ding ding ding

    • Debbie says:

      Oh Boston,
      I just guffawed reading your comment.My husband’s here and asked me what was so funny.. I told him nothing I can explain.. Just saying she donated 2 boxes of cheerios isn’t enough and I don’t have the patience to explain her general idiocy. Damn that woman’s a fool.

    • MichellefromNY says:

      that kelly seriously thinks that two lousy boxes are enough to brand her as a philanthropist??? ummm HELLLLL NOOO

    • kbinldo says:

      Don’t break the bank there, lunatic!

    • ImaJillHater2 says:

      Two boxes of Cheerios? Let’s see… that would be about a $7 donation?

      • TLM says:

        Next thing Kelly will say she donated a single cup of coffee to a homeless shelter, that while she was at Starbucks she decided to buy an extra one, and swung by the shelter to drop it off. Oh, and she had a few sticks of gum in her purse she left there, too. What a humanitarian.

        If this woman has the star power with charities she claims, how about getting a cereal company to donate 500 or 1000 boxes of cereal? Or a clothing company to donate t-shirts, sweatshirts and socks? Adios, lunatic.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Gave them an extra cup of coffee? I can’t see that but I can see

          Her giving them the empty cup to collect loose/donated change with…and then turning around to say she helped them with ‘fund raising’. Ah…..Kelly, always making Lemonade from Lemons….and sometimes Oranges.

  14. boston02127 says:

    Camille Grammer’s Past Leaking Out


    • housewifeaddict says:

      Wow – maybe she is as awful as the way she’s coming across on TV. If that stuff is true she made a mistake trying to get into the spotlight – because this isn’t pretty.

    • lillybee says:

      Why am I not surprised.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Now that makes sense. Her vibe is just reeking of sex and she is trying to portray herself as a victim on reality tv and it just comes across as BS. Wow. No wonder the husbands were repelled by her advances in Vegas. They know her history.

    • cusi77 says:

      And what about Taylor’s real name is Shana. Shana is a beautiful name while Taylor name is a name that became more popular in younger generations than hers. She name her daughter Kennedy… why will she be Shana? Everything in Taylor is fake! Even her name!

    • quincyil says:

      She is Danielle Staub with money. Danielle would have acted exactly the same way with the camera if she was still married to the millionaire. She would be on private planes and spending money with that unique credit card.

  15. ilovelynn says:

    kmuellfa: left you a message on the last blog. thank you, thank you, thank you!

  16. This is just a test to see if changing my quilt to a photo worked. P

  17. boston02127 says:

    re: above artical about Camille.
    I was curious to see who Prince Jefri Bolkiah of Brunei was. I wonder how Camille was affiliated with him?


    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      He’s pretty infamous.

      He’s been in the news for years and years for all kinds of hedonistic behavior.

      He has a luxury yacht names T*ts- and that was just how I spelled it to get past Lynn’s swear filter- it is big as life on the side of the yacht and the two captains are named Nipple One and Nipple Two.

      Could you make this up?

    • quincyil says:

      Boston, you are young so I had trepidation in telling you about the Middle East and prostitituion/sex slavery.

      From Wikipedia:

      In 1997, former Miss USA Shannon Marketic filed a lawsuit against the ruling family of Brunei for $90 million.[12] In the case, Marketic alleged that she and 6 other young women were paid $127,200 each for a modeling job in Brunei (whereas on the ABC news program 20/20, Marketic said she was supposed to provide “intellectual conversations” with visiting guests of the royal family). These other women include former Miss Teen USA and future Miss USA Brandi Sherwood, who was invited along by Shannon, and Miss United Kingdom runner up Paula Bradbury.

      “Marketic maintained that she and Stephanie Granton were held as “sex slaves” at the Sultan’s palace and were “intimidated and coerced into performing physically and morally repulsive acts of prostitution.”[13] They were apparently ordered to dance for 5–6 hours every night at parties during which their bodies and private parts were groped and grabbed by men, one of whom was the Sultan’s son, Prince Azim. During the dances Marketic was also allegedly abused verbally with comments made about her bare breasts.[14] The women were often told to go with a man to have “tea” with him and then had sex with him.[15] In her interview on 20/20, Marketic said that after 32 days of being held against her will, she managed to smuggle a letter out to the US Embassy; shortly afterwards, she was allegedly paid $10,000 and forced to fly back to the United States alone.[12] The case was thrown out due to the immunity of the ruling family as heads of state.[15] There has been no further investigation into this case although there are allegations both supporting and refuting her claims. Paula Bradbury separately sued the Sultan and won £500,000 in settlement.[16]”

      I also know that female children have been kidnapped from south western Iran and that the investigations lead to the Middle Eastern Sunni Arab countries.

      Toddler boys were purchased by the sultans in several countries and used as jockies in camel races. The boys were strapped on the camels and when the camels fell, they were harmed or killed. The international outrage caused the public races to end, but I have read that the Sultans are still doing it privately.

      Slavery officially ended in Saudi Arabia in 1962, but it really never ended.

      An twelve year old girl won a divorce from her 80 year old Saudi husband who paid her father for the marriage not long ago.


      Bad things are happening in the US too. As women, we have to be the defenders of children. Camille Grammer was in with really dangerous people if those articles are correct. Again, she’s like Danielle Staub in Miama. It’s actually not shocking to me because I have read many books and articles on these societal problems.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        I think that it is important that you did post that to @boston02127.

        When I was exactly her age, in my freshman year of college I was approached by 2 very handsome, young, sexy Middle Eastern men to come onto their yacht docked in Boston harbor for dinner and drinks, they told me to invite some girlfriends if I’d like, and told me they had staff like a personal chef to take care of us.

        So I invited 2 of my girlfriends- because nothing bad can happen in a group right? And we all met up at a pub near the dock. The men met us there and as we left the pub, pointed the yacht out to us.

        @quincy- it was amazing. It was like the f*ing Queen Mary. And I got a horrible cold chill down my back and I actually shuddered when I saw it.

        My best friend noticed and said to me what’s wrong? And I said oh nothing, someone just walked over my grave, because it’s something I had heard my grandmother say a few times.

        She sorta looked at me, and I sorta looked at her, and it dawned on both of us at the same time that no one can hear you scream on the high seas.

        We took my other friend who was already smashed into the ladies room and hid there until those guys left in frustration.

        Would they have kidnapped us? who knows, but they were very very wealthy, and very very smooth. Too smooth.

        • quincyil says:

          I married an Iranian. I was so naive when I was young. I loved everyone from every place. I had friends go over there after marriage to Iranians and they begged to come home. This was before the Shah fell and there was non stop killing from a Revolution that just won’t die.

          • JKW says:

            The book Kite Runners has some of what goes on in Afganistan. It’s a great book and well worth reading. After reading it I saw a PBS special on The Dancing Boys of Afganistan. Poor families actually sell there boys to rich men who dress them as woman and make them dance at parties. They also abuse them sexually and physically. The PBS special followed ones of the boys that escaped. It is illegal but the authorities pretty much overlook it. His second book deals with how woman are treated after the Taliban came into power. Both excellent books.

  18. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Nancy Happy Birthday! You share the same date as my mom, so I will be stealing the trivia WSL compiled and presenting it as my own 😉
    I worked out extra hard at the gym so I could have a slice of your cake, slice it already!

  19. boston02127 says:

    When I Google a question about Prince Jefri Bolkiah & Camille this is what comes up.

    Nov 20, 2010 … Playboy Prince Jefri Bolkiah of Brunei has so much money that he barely … This is the same guy that used to hire Camille Grammer ….

    But in the artical it doesn’t say what he hired Camille for when I open the link.

  20. 10 Things I Like About Camille Grammer

    10 – I like Cheers, and Camille’s husband had a large role in Cheers
    9 – I like Frasier – and Camille’s husband was the star of Frasier
    8 – I like Medium – and Camille’s husband produces medium
    7 – I like Seattle – and Camille’s husband’s sitcom was set in Seattle
    6 – I like Camille’s mother (for the 5 seconds I saw her on-screen)

    Honestly this is harder than Jill

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      5. I like how she has demonstrated what to make sure the injector doesn’t miss when having Botox injections.
      4. I like how she has made Danielle look ***almost***normal
      3. I like how she has perfect breasts so that the plastic surgeon wouldn’t operate on them. It’s not often we see a woman of those proportions that is all natural.
      2. I like how she has provided jobs for her staff during the worst recession since the great Depression.

      that’s all I got…too difficult!

    • boston02127 says:

      I like that I’m not related to Camille.
      I like that she’s not my neighbor.
      I like that I’m nothing like her and never will be.

    • cusi77 says:

      Housewife_ Jill is a good daughter

  21. 10 Things I Like About Kim Zolciak’s Singing.

    10 – I like the part where Kandi starts singing and you can’t hear Kim anymore.

  22. OneMoreInBoston says:

    OT- This blog is so freaking funny that I am putting a warning on it- don’t drink any liquids while reading it:


  23. American Idiot says:

    6. I like that she makes us realize what a good vocalist should sound like.
    7. I like that she makes us realize how much work should go into a stage show.

  24. error404 says:

    Oh Kelsey, Kelsey, Kelsey… your lawyers are gonna hafta work harder than that.

    You were bloated with TV $$$$ and she was a know prozzie, yet you married her without a prenup anyway. Then you spent 13 years with her crazy ass. Now that you’ve dumped her for someone else, suddenly she’s too good for your $$$ or your kids.

    Sorry, unless you can prove she hid these facts or that she is still wild and endangering your kids, she’s entitled to half your dosh. Back to the drawing boards boys.

    Oh yeah, you needn’t have bothered trying to get public opinion turned against her. Camille is doing that all by herself just by opening her mouth being herself, a person you once loved by America hated at first sight.

    Now, why isn’t anyone dishing on Nick or the creepy hot tub guy… There seems to plenty of dirt to dish on Camille without having to back peddle a few decades to her youth!

  25. Kansas Girl says:

    5 (maybe). I like how enthusiastic she is once she finally starts singing.

  26. sofi says:

    Loved the review of the birthday party and how the house looks in real life. As to JZ’s decorating advice to Alex, all I can say is look at JZ’s apartment.

    • ImaJillHater2 says:

      If memory serves, JZ’s decorating input was limited to window treatments…

      • knocknoc says:

        Didn’t Jilly put her place up for sale
        shortly after the renovation–even she
        knew the place looked awful and wanted
        to sell it including the furniture.

        Unfortunately, no buyers. How sad.

  27. housewifeaddict says:

    Hmm – Just listened to Lisa recap NY to Adrienne again:
    Lisa : I thought everything was fine, and then Camille came downstairs and said “I don’t want to be set up. I don’t want to be the one that is insecure.”

    So this might have been about how she thought she’d end up being portrayed on the show – which could possibly explain all those awful interviews where she was trying to ‘prove’ she had no reason to be insecure relative to Kyle (I’m higher on the pecking order).

  28. Adgirl says:

    Kelsey & Camille – the article on absurdtosublime quoted someone as claiming Kelsey left for NY because Camille wanted to promote herself and he was concerned about her background being discovered and upsetting the children …blahblah sumtin sumtin.

    Whaaa?? Really???
    Kelsey – please. You are complaining now about the quality of mother YOU provided for your children and now you are upset they will find out whay kind of person she is. REALLY?
    First I don’t believe this story, but I am outraged anyway.

    Mister – you married a stripper/ho/porny. Own it!!
    Both of your children with her are born via surrogates, so lots of planning was required … right? Why are you all of a sudden worried about your children figuring out their mother is, well, unsavory?? You created this mess, and over a looong period of time. So, it’s no one night stand accident. She was good enough to marry, good enough to plan a family around so you Own It. If you think their mom is a piece of shit, she is Your Piece Of Shit.

    May I add here. It’s Cheaper to Keep Her. And your children need a parent. Apparently so do their parents.

    Maybe Alex & Simon have extra room at their place.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      It is sort of like Charles Ommanney being embarrassed to be involved with the show – hello – you knew what Cat’s past was and you should have know what the show was – it could have been a heck of a lot worse.


      • Adgirl says:

        Yeah really. Like all the contestants on Hells Kitchen cry when Ramsay screams “You call this sh1t food?!” and throws a hot frying pan at their head.
        Huge surprise he would do that, you know?

        I love it every time.

    • Its posts like this that remind me why I visit this place.
      And what’s with Camille being a “prostitute” for some sultan’s Harem?
      (yes, I under-capitalized it as a sign-of disrespect to people who hold women as slaves & pimps in general)
      Last I heard, it was called, “human trafficking”.
      I’m beginning to like Camille more & more myself.

  29. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Well, all this talk of birthdays, cake and cheese cake has now motivated me out of the house. SIL and I are on our way out the door to the Cheesecake factory for some Godiva Chocolate Cheesecake. Yum! Have a great night all!

  30. realminkey says:

    I’ll have to go back in time and read previous postings when I have the time to do so, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading about your visit, WSL!

    Being a preservationist, and having restored several historically significant buildings including some of my homes (early 18th c to late 19th) over the last three decades, I especially love your appreciation (like that of Alex and Simon) of the architecture.

    Good going, Girl!

  31. realminkey says:

    And Happy Birthday, Nancy!

  32. klmh says:

    Holy smokes. Look at this about Camille!

    • klmh says:

      Oops, posted up there.

    • karrylin says:

      She acts and looks like a hooker….and if I remember correctly, Kelsey Grammer always has liked his women…..”cheap and trampy looking” but expensive to deal with….
      her voice, her side way glances, and then the smile….her dancing, and the way she hugs….
      Learned in a special kind of finishing school….
      But hey…a girl has got to make a living, right?
      OF COURSE…is this true?

  33. scorpiosue1102 says:

    So how long until Camille comes out with her own song? Or maybe she could do a re-make:

    Diamonds Are A Girl’s Best Friend
    Money Can’t Buy You Class……what it’s a classic! 🙂

  34. Dani says:

    Wow, what a wonderful surprise to come home from work and read your blog WSL. Thanks for sharing your truly lovely story about the birthday party with Alex, Simon and their darling boys.

  35. Rabble Rouser says:

    So happy to see the blog by WSL 🙂

  36. JZLSODOU says:

    What a GREAT blog WSL thanks for sharing that with us!

  37. kmuellfa says:

    TLD-clean up in aisle five!

  38. JZLSODOU says:

    I just pooed myself again, I better leave before I make a bigger fool of myself than I already have

  39. JZLSODOU says:

    What a great photo! Thanks for sharing it with us WSL

  40. JZLSODOU says:

    I just love Lynn and her blog! Thanks Lynn!

  41. OneMoreInBoston says:

    aahhh…good times, good times

  42. Rabble Rouser says:

    It looks like some ‘people’ are mad that the IHJZ blog is so successful, it attracts the likes of another successful women like WSL. I find it so fascinating how Jill Z’s tag line was how she runs with a fabulous circle of women implying that she is a well known socialite- while someone in our IHJZ circle is all that and then some.

    I’m so proud of Lynn and WSL.

  43. Zipit Zarin says:

    Thanx for the blog WSL! It’s so great to read how normal and nice Silex and children are. And Hippo Birdy 2 Ewe Nancy 😀

    I watched the movie An American Carol today. Kelsey Grammer is in it as General Patton (it’s a comedy not a war movie lol) and Camille is in it too. She even has a few lines. Her face doesn’t look like a female Skelator…looks pretty normal.

  44. Amber...Real Wife says:

    S A N D S A N D


    S A N D S A N D

  45. MichellefromNY says:

    Thanx for the awesome guest blog WSL!! Love that you actually got to see her house. Cobble hill is a great neighborhood.

    Anyway, I’d just like to thank you all for giving me much needed entertainment as I near the end of my pregnancy. I’ve been hormonal like crazy and the combination of watching real housewives and engaging in housewives snark on this site really keeps me sane for my hubby lol. I love that I found such an awesome online community just because I was so darn frustrated with how awful jill zarin was. Love you all!!

  46. MichellefromNY says:

    And happy birthday nancy!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Congratulations Michelle! Sending you blessings for your healthy child and family. I hope all goes well and soon you’ll be feeding an infant and reading the blog. 🙂 It is easy to get involved in all the gossip and snark that the HW’s bring and the blog gives. You are in good company.

      This blog kept me company while I waited on a financing, bid on a few short sales and eventually purchased a builder inventory on the last week of the tax credit. We closed on June 21st and I would’ve gone crazy had I not had Lynn’s blog and the comments to read keeping me busy. Instead of fretting over rates and contracts falling through, I had Jill, Luann and Kelly to rant about and Bethenny to cheer for. GOOD TIMES! 🙂

      Also Happy Birthday Nancy!

    • quincyil says:

      Lots of moms and grandmas here. Babies are very welcome.

  47. Adgirl says:

    Hey Michelle, best wishes on your pregnancy!

    I too come to this site for female bonding and a respite from everyday hassles. I love all of the regulars, lurkers and newbies. I adore Lynn and am grateful for her creating and maintaining this environment.

    Even the stink bombs for Project Cockroach or whatever add a dimension of fun.
    So thanks to you all.


  48. nancy says:

    sorry family. My sons took me out for a Spa day..Yes, they knew what they were doing. Gambling. Thay have one in the Gambling place. Two birds with one stone. LOL Gotta run. Sons are taking me out to dinner.Again, thank you. WSL you are a fantastic lady.

  49. nancy says:

    OMG. This is why I don’t post. Really bad at it. Please see up thread.

  50. housewifeaddict says:

    Lynn – super creative tonight. You are making me laugh. Thanks!!!!!

  51. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Lynn- truly out doing yourself tonight. Good job! Take back your blog, sistah!

  52. Zipit Zarin says:

    Now that’s what I call defeat!

  53. klmh says:

    Thanks so much WSL for sharing your fun experience with this lovely family.

  54. Zipit Zarin says:

    You know what is really ironic? The rodent was all up in everyone’s grill about not using a particular word that she deemed offensive …trying to force her version of PC down everyone’s throat but in her world it’s ok to actually BE vile and offensive. What a freaking disconnect from what she says and what she does.

    • TrueLifeDiva the troll slayer says:

      Softly crooning “There’s a thin line….between love and hate.” The versions sung by Chrissy Hines AND Simply Red 😉 . (80’s reference for all you old school gals like myself)

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      What was the word? And who was that person?

      I must have missed a lot of stuff along the way because I am not sure who these ‘trolls’ are and from where they are coming from- and more so why are they making Lynn and WSL their target. Are they JZ fans? DM fan? Who are these people?

      I remember a while ago, there were implications that WSL was a just a made up persona. Our IHJZ families answer was “So what if she isn’t. I love the antidotes and the entertainment”. And now, we know not only is she really a WSL, she is the maverick. Now their desperation is really showing…..it’s so ridiculous it would be humorous if it wasn’t so offensive.

      The implication that our WSL who has managed BILLIONS of dollars over decades on WS, is doing something shady and trying to take a handful of us for $50 in exchange for a key chain. Really? When we all know the truth, no one was forced to do anything or give anyone any money.

      That WSL randomly pulled names out of a hat and send people nasty emails for no rhythm or reason?

      Since we have been using Judge Judy logic lately….


      They can try to smite the character of WSL and Lynn but they will fail.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Well said, thank you very much!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          You are so welcome.

          I have to say I am just dumb founded by the whole thing, the implications are so asinine I can’t even fathom why anyone would bring them forth. It’s on the same level of audacity of calling people who didn’t like the book “Secrets of a Jewish Mother” anti-Semites.

          Can you please post your email again, I want the ‘story’. 🙂

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            My absolute favorite Judge Judy line:

            ” Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining”

      • quincyil says:

        I didn’t know about the emails.

        In my many years, I have met people that I just didn’t like. I’ve managed not to go for months harassing them.

  55. TrueLifeDiva the troll slayer says:

    Good night all. Get plenty of rest, I just found out the ugliest troll of them all broke out of her padded cell at the looney bin. All hell is about to break loose and only the strong will survive. Gift bag production kicking into high gear. Smooches!

  56. quincyil says:

    Does anyone here know anything about the trim in Alex’s house?


    From the article:
    “The architecture during the 1850s, contained Greek Revival, Romanesque Revival, Italianate style, Gothic Revival, Queen Anne style, French Second Empire, and neo-Grec.”

    I had noticed the twisted/carved trim when Bethenny visited the house. I thought the door panels that slid into the wall were cool too. I’d like to know more about Alex’s house as I love learning about these things. Perhaps, it has something to do with Gothic because the art that they chose reminded me of Gothic Art. Also, that dark red and black may have some meaning to the era of the home.

    I have seen Victorian homes which from the 1800’s. I also know of a Queen Anne home, but I have not been inside.

    I love the kitchen in Alex’s home. Not crazy about the tiny basement bedrooms for the boys, but it may be the camera that makes them look dark and small.

    Thank you WSL and Lynn for sharing this. I hope we can explore NYC and other cities as the show features neighborhoods including Jill’s neighborhood.

    • skogsstig says:

      Rope molding can be found in Victorian interiors – and is still available through firms that cater to contractors, interior designers, etc. Here’s one example:

    • Kansas Girl says:

      During the remodel scenes, someone told them that the rope molding was not original to the house and the house was not that old. They knew that, but said they liked it and wanted to keep it. I wonder when their house was built. Those pocket doors are found in Victorian homes, but also are still installed in modern homes. They save a lot of space, if the walls are able to contain them. (They have to slide into a cavity, so the wall needs to be wide enough with no ducts.)

      Yes, I hope we see more of NY in future seasons. They should show off their neighborhoods a bit more for us arm chair travelers. (Or we’re going to have to organize a Lynn family tour!)

  57. AZ Girl says:

    Good morning everyone. Weather has changed here and looks like a cold (high of 69) and rain today. Off to the gym.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Here too! (So we have AZ weather today!) Supposed to get up to 70. Thursday it’s to be below freezing. I’m not kidding when I say I don’t know what to wear!

  58. American Idiot says:

    I need a little LynnFam perspective, if anyone can help.

    Last night I hosted a birthday dinner at my house for 4 couples. We have all been friends for years. Each couple has a son who are now 17/18 yrs. old., all seniors in HS. All friends. Early in the evening, I asked Mom A how her weekend away was. (The previous weekend she and her husband (husband A)went away to celebrate her birthday, leaving 2 17 yr. olds home alone, her son (son A) and stepdaughter (stepdaughter A). She made a grimace and said “Not too good; son A had a party in their home, while they were away. ” I immediately turn to my husband and ask where our son was last weekend. We determine he told us he was at another friends’ house, one who does not live in our town. Mom A then hems and haws and finally tells us that stepdaughter A “thinks” she remembers seeing our son at the party. Now my husband is furious. His whole demeanor changes. He is positive our son has lied to us. I try to carry on, feeling we can talk about this at another time with our son. During this time, the other moms present are silent. I get feeling this has all been discussed previously between the 3 of them. A little more time passes and Mom A tells me she can see my husband is very upset, and she is going to talk to him. Out of my earshot, they talk. Later I find out my husband promises that he and I will NOT to discuss any of the party situation with our son. Mom A is having a very difficult time with her son right now, and feels if we confront our son, it will get back to her son, causing them even more problems. I should point out that this is not the first time Mom A and Stepdad A have left their children home alone to go away for the weekend. This recent unauthorized party is at least the 3rd one son A has had while his parents were away.

    So now what do I do. I have a suspicion my son has lied about his whereabouts but I cannot confront him. So, do I just forget about the whole thing, do I go against my husband’s promise and ask him if he was at the party, or do I take a wait and see approach, and hope I can somehow get a conversation going in which I can ask without seeming like I am interrogating him.

    I am also annoyed because a party I worked very hard to plan was basically ruined.

    • quincyil says:

      Tough call. When we took our daughter to Brown we left one 17 year old son at home with my father and mother. He decided to throw a party in our creek bed. My mom and dad were in the house, but they kept walking down a huge hill to check on the group who drove cars and trucks down there. My parents were assured by the teens that there was no liquor.

      My husband and I were shocked when we got back, but thought my parents version was the truth. Mom actually slept in our house and saw no signs of the smell of alcohol with the 20 boys who stayed over.

      In a restaurant and in a very public way, another doctor’s wives told me about the drinking party. She had had a couple at her house and her kids hired cleaning ladies to make sure the house didn’t show the party.

      We punished our son severly. He was not allowed to stay behind when we wanted to go for weekends. Dragging around an unhappy 6 ft 2 in senior in high school was no fun, but that is what happens when he lies to his parents.

      I’m glad you know. If he gets a dui or in an accident, you would be more upset. Have a family meeting. Enforce your family rules. Be strong. Remind them that their choices have impact on themselves and others.

      Sorry about your party… I hope the next one is better.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      How annoying about your well planned dinner party.

      But it was helpful in learning a few things about your son and what his activities include.

      I am not a mom, so I hope I’m not out of line here, but I was a teenager. I was a pretty good girl, but my brother was W.I.L.D. and I remember what he put my poor parents through.

      1) your son lied to you about his whereabouts. He claims he was at one friends house but eyewitnesses saw him at another friend’s house. At an unapproved, unchaperoned party.

      2) why did he lie? Was it to protect himself? Was it to protect his friend so you wouldn’t then tell his mom and step dad about the party?

      3) Have you caught him in any other lies, or is this the first one that you can bring to mind?

      IMHO, the other woman’s family is not your responsibility, but your family is. But I think you and your husband should present a united front when you speak to your son.

      I would also give this woman the courtesy of letting her know that you will be discussing this with your son despite your husband’s promise. If she tries to dissuade you , tell her your family is not negotiable.

      It may cost you a friendship but IMHO your son and his future is more important than this lady’s friendship.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sorry your party was ruined.
      As for your son – IMO it comes down to what is best for your family, which comes before friends and what is convenient for them. You may just want to tell your son that you know about the house “party” and that your trust in him has been compromised. All choices have consequences and as a parent you are disappointed in this particular one he made. And in the future when he wants to do things you will call the parents and ask about the specifics. You don’t have to yell or punish – just let him know how you feel.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      My son is a freshman in college, and my daughter is a senior in HS.

      My perspective is that your relationship with your son and husband trumps any promises made to this other family. Although it is an uncomfortable situation, talking to your son is unlikely to make it much worse. If he lied to you it is best to clear the air. We always tell our kids that everyone makes mistakes, but lying to cover up doesn’t help. It is a great opportunity to talk about drinking and driving, watching what you drink (so that it doesn’t get spiked), etc.

      There are always parents out there that will let kids party at their house – and see nothing wrong with it. Or kids will find somewhere else to party. The only thing we can control as a parent is our communication with our kids. And it’s also our last chance to influence them before they go off to college and do whatever they are going to do.

      • AZ Girl says:

        Having 2 boys go through HS and are a year apart this to me is an excellent response. The HS that our boys attended was wealthy and many of the parents did not think twice about allowing their kids and friends drink. It made me crazy. Not that I thought my son’s were perfect. So many lives are lost from drinking and driving.
        We sat down our boys and told them that if they choose to drink they are NOT to drive. If the need to call us to pick them up we will gladly do so. We also explained the consequences of DUI’s in Arizona. First offense. You loose your license for a year. Cost of the offense after attorney’s fees around $5,000.00. To this day even in their 20’s and legal drinking age either walk home, spend the night at a friends or call a cab if they have been drinking.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Off the top of my head, fwiw, sounds like Mom A doesn’t give a shit if her own family problems contribute to creating problems for your family. She keeps leaving unsupervised minors in her home for weekends with the same results. Then tells you your own son may have been at the party at her house, but she doesn’t even know that for a fact.

      You really don’t know if he was or not, and maybe he in fact wasn’t at the party, but your “friend” just successfully stirred up the shit in your own home. But to make life easier for her, she doesn’t want you & your to discuss it with your son? Heh. F that.

      Her relationship with her son is not your responsibility. Your son is. Discuss it with your husband from the point of view that her inability to deal with her kids should not be creating problems for you in dealing with yours. And unless your “friend’s” stepkid “thinking she remembers seeing him” is good enough “proof” for you, I’d suggest not jumping on your kid as if you had proof that he lied.

      JMO. I don’t have to live with the situation or fallout. But IMO “fambly” comes first over friends who don’t care if their irresponsibility creates problems for you.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Mother A is in no position to decide what conversations take place between you and your son. She seems to catering to a wild teen, and she wants YOU to ignore, the possible, violation of trust your son committed. WRONG. The dangers of lying leading to underage drinking, alcohol poisoning, drunk driving etc. must be discussed.

      We all lied to our parents, and probably shudder thinking of the danger we were in , but when caught the gig is up. Punishment must fit the crime. It’s obvious Mother A has a out of control or problematic teen. Your son, like all the rest of the kids, just went to a party. He has to know that lying about his whereabouts is unacceptable. Anything could have gone wrong and you wouldn’t have known until it was too late.

      When you speak to your son, have news articles, concrete evidence of deaths, rapes, beatings committed at house parties. Also with social media, these events are photographed and video taped for prosperity, posted online guaranteeing arrests and at least hindering future job searches. He is you son and this is a fork in the road. Make sure he chooses correctly.

    • klmh says:

      I asked the man I admire the most and this is what he said he would do. He is also a pediatrician.
      You don’t have to betray the confidence to talk to your son about drinking. Your primary obligation is to your son. Ask him how he feels about it. Grill him about his thoughts on drinking. Mention that if you found out he lied and did something like this you would loose respect and trust you have for him. Let him know the consequences of his actions with removing the car and basically being grounded for f**king ever.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think your friends had no right to ask you to make that promise.

      It seems a bit ridiculous to me for a few reasons, why should the dynamics of that family be able to dictate those in your own household? If your son lied to you, that is a big problem it shouldn’t be ignored.

      I don’t even understand the rational of her being worried that it would get back to her son and cause problems. Since when were parents at the mercy of their minor children?

      Actually, I remember when I was a teenager and if someone threw a crazy party when their parents were away- other parents in the neighborhood would come and bust it up- collecting their kids (a bunch of times my dad found my sister – ha ha- sissy got in trouble) and tossing the other kids out. When all was said and done all the parents knew what kids were there and what they were doing- it made them think twice about doing it.

      If your friends want to put an end to it, they should let EVERY single parent know if their kid was at their party. When they catch hell for it, the word that will get out is- that is NOT the place to go and party.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I was thinking a little bit more about your situation and wanted to remind you about @shadowsnomore.

      The first time I’ve ever posted on a blog was in response to her son’s car accident with a drunk driver that left one of his friends dead and her son suicidal.

      We haven’t heard from her since, and not a day goes by that I don’t think about her and hope and pray to god her son didn’t go through with it.

    • Kellita says:

      I think you’re getting a lot of great advice here.

      I have a 16yo son and 19yo daughter, so I’ve encountered some sticky situations myself. I agree with those who said your primary responsibility is to attend to your son’s safety and his character. The other mother has no right to drop this info on your lap and then ask you not to say anything to your son. That is not in your family’s best wishes. Maybe, without revealing the source, you can have a conversation with your son saying that you are aware of people that were at that party, and if he is lying to you, you will find out, so he’d better ‘fess up now, or the punishment will be worse. That seemed to work with my teens, who sometimes thought I had super-human powers. 😉

      I know parenting teens can be really draining at times! My daughter gave me some really stressful times when she was in h.s. Fortunately, she’s matured, and such a sweetheart now at 19. Good luck and blessings to you!

  59. boston02127 says:

    Real Housewives of Atlanta: Is There A Doctor In The House?

    Phaedra Parks and her lies reach epic proportions this week as she travels two hours to Athens Georgia to give birth to this “early induced labor eight pound baby” Are there no obstetricians in Atlanta? Maybe she wanted to get the other ladies off her trail, but Kandi Burruss does visit her. I’m still not getting why the truth wouldn’t serve, she got knocked up before her marriage, big deal.

    In this “world exclusive” at Media takeout she gives more explanation. What is this “knowing Apollo when she was in college”? What was she, his babysitter? She’s 39, he’s 31, how many 19 year old girls do you know hang out with 11 year old boys?

    Speaking of doctors, the phony Dr. Tiy_E Muhammad gets busted out on this episode by Nene. Since he “taught” at Clark College in Atlanta for 4 years before he was caught, she may have met him during that brief time Bryson, her son, was enrolled there. I wonder if he knew the plot line before he signed on to do the show, or is he such a famewhore that he doesn’t care. Anyway, in addition to the usual cast of characters, Ed and Lisa Wu Hartwell will be seen on this episode. It all goes down at Sheree’s house, so watch what happens.

    By the way, Nene Leakes is back in Atlanta and LaToya Jackson is back at home in Beverly Hills. How each of them did on Celebrity Apprentice is unknown.

    from: absurdtosublime

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO, Phaedra’s manufactured Southern Belle persona was not very well thought out. Does she really think anyone cares when she met Apollo? Or that she was sexually active before she got married? The lie about the baby is sad and I agree with NeNe – lawyers are supposed to be liars – and Phaedra is definately not a good one…..and add that she is not a good actress to that list.
      I am glad the baby is healthy. I don’t care that they have decided to withhold information and photos of him either. And I am not looking forward to her birthing scenes tonight!!!

      • Waxdiva says:

        WSL you confirmed that they are genuinely nice people…great story.

        Lynn: I did a little take on Fakedra’s due date… and the latest about our lovely Treetrunk Joo-dice:


        • WindyCityWondering says:

          loved your take on both of them!

        • klmh says:

          Little Hercules! Enjoyed your story. Tx

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I also liked the blog about Phaedra. What a crock of shit…..I mean really…she supposedly get admitted to the hospital for bleeding the day before the shower; but not only does the shower still go on…but she gets up and f*cking dances? (sorry for the profanity but give me a fn break).

          I’m suppose to beleive a mother who almost lost her baby 2 times- and pregnancy is so complicated to the extend they discussed late term abortion with her; that they are delivering pre-term because she and the baby at at such great risk is going to be so blase about it?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bethenny’s smile is beautiful! She looks like she is having fun too.

      • boston02127 says:

        I agree! That’s why I posted the link, it wasn’t any new news just a great pic of B. She’s so pretty.

        I think Bethenny looks so good is because she’s content. My mother use to stress how important it is to be content & grateful and not always wanting more.

    • lillybee says:

      Go for it, Bethanney.

  60. American Idiot says:

    I am overwhelmed by all the responses I have received. I am so grateful to all of you for taking the time to respond. You have all given me some “food for thought”. I have read all your responses several times, and I am definitely going to have a talk with my son tonight, with my husband present. This is too important an issue to ignore. I appreciate all you have said; you are all very wise women.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Good luck -keep your cool and listen more than you talk! Your son is being given an opportunity here that may make the difference in future choices he will be making.

  61. California35 says:

    WSL thank you for sharing your experience with Alex and Simon.

    I am finally watching BH, ugh I have not had time to enjoy TV, the blog and the posts. I have been busy going everywhere. I did read the recap from Lynn and a few posts.

  62. boston02127 says:

    Have a good day everyone.

    • klmh says:

      Thanks OMIB. Its always good to have another source of information. When I read the first paragraph, I thought it said Charity Navigator received up to 15,000/yr., but it was the BBB. Yikes. Wish AIOP had a larger list though. Good info.

      • Adgirl says:

        The fact is almost all non-profits are created in order to give their director/owners a JOB. They run their salary & expenses thru the charity while also giving the director a platform to display themselves.
        I think that’s why I am hugely skeptical of most charities even though I totally believe in their mission.
        I give directly to certain local charities I believe in.

        • klmh says:

          I understand why you make that decision. I suppose if you are on the board, you can watch this closely, but corruption can occur on the local level as well.
          I guess you just do the best you can, check and compare and then make your decision. But it seems to be a conflict of interest for the BBB to compare agencies and expect payment in return.

  63. California35 says:

    What is Camile’s problem? She wants to be center on the show. She acts like she is “up here” and everyone else “down here”. She is starting the issues, she is saying everyone is jelaus of her – for what? They all are doing well, $, husband, house, family, friends. What makes her better than the rest? That she is married to a celebrity? That is HIS acomplishment not hers. Saying that Kyles husband is nothing because he is a realtor like it is a low job? Like that makes him less than her husband. Wow!! Kelsey is not even into this fight, but his name comes up a lot. I don’t like this girl, cam you tell? Oh! She is reading a book about the art of war, she acts as if she is so ofended and indignant. – Kyle has tried to make things right. I say forget about her and ignore her.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Where to start LOL. What isn’t her problem would be easier.

    • dsc60 says:

      ah the jealousy card. a favorite of kelly’s also. i abhor when people pull that. people that use “they are just jealous” can justify anything and everything, including their own bad behavior. i had a friend that would use that whenever she screwed up and angered someone. “they’re just jealous.” drives me MAD! it’s a cop out… period.

  64. housewifeaddict says:

    Atlanta is on tonight. We’ve heard the rumors that they were close to dropping Sheree (in addition to Lisa) for this season. What little I’ve seen of her is making me yawn. Quite frankly, if she wasn’t in any more scenes, I’m not sure I would care. But the preview say tonight will be all about her gentleman friend. So the challenge is …

    10 Things that are Interesting About Sheree’s Storyline This year.

    10 – I find Sheree’s storyline interesting because I want to see how much more she’ll take before dumping the love doctor. Frankly – I’m surprised she put up with him for a second date – but I guess anything for some sort of storyline.

    Hmm – I’ll be back later –

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      9 – She rewards herself with presents she can’t pay for (the repo car) because she deserves them.
      8 – She is a wonderful mother to what was a family “friend” but who now actually is really her daughter.
      7 – She can’t dance but she bravely showed us her truly ugly feet on national tv (or maybe Bravo snuck that in) for charity.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Those were very ugly feet. Poor Sheree – but I’m not sure if I’d tune in to see either her dancing or her feet again LOL

    • housewifeaddict says:

      6 – I guess I’m interested because she might do something crazy – like have a big screaming match with the love doctor

  65. Zipit Zarin says:

    Ha! Rob Shuter from PopEater gets a smack down. We’re not the only people who think he’s a dumbass douchebag. I love it. Oh, and I love the term Palin Derangement Syndrom.

    In other news: Was Bristol Palin Targeted in Dancing White Powder Scare?http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20443988,00.html

  66. klmh says:

    Harry Potter’s 1st part of the 7th book movie is the best yet. But if you haven’t read or listened to the video, don’t bother going. The movie follows the book fairly closely but it doesn’t review anything. The acting and directing are better than any of the other movies, imo. Really enjoyed it!

  67. Adgirl says:

    @ American Idiot the others here have given you great advice not letting other families dictate to you whether you speak to your son about his whereabouts during their sons party.

    I also read between the lines that you don’t want to break up your tight group of couples. I hate it when other people give you the option of being a terrible parent or being a terrible friend. In truth they are creating that situation not you.
    Personally, I would ask your husband to call husband A to inform him you will be speaking to your son. The Man Rules will probably calm down the potential firebomb wife A wants to toss at you to deflect her guilt at once again letting her kids run wild.

    BTW- who the hell leaves their teenage son and teen age stepsister home alone for a weekend? Sounds very dangerous to me.

    • quincyil says:

      Friends are less important than family. If the friend doesn’t understand that, I doubt she has your interests in her heart.

      • Divalosity says:

        BTW *fire starter brewing*

        Who does Mother A think she is talking to your husband privately. Is she a Camille type, shady, who bonds with the men to get favors? Watch her. If she allows a teen to run her household, she is no position to decide what happens in yours.

    • Kellita says:

      I always seem to be a day late and a dollar short, but I left my opinion upthread.

      Those parents must not be the sharpest knives in the drawer. They could be held responsible and go to jail if their any kid had left their children’s party, drove drunk, and something tragic happened.

  68. Adgirl says:

    What is something you LOVE to see on any version of RH??

    I want to see Sheree or Tamra Barney go to college (community college is OK) to get a grip on their lifes and finances.

    What about you?

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Honestly, I’d love to see the HWs go to some really upscale parties. All they seem to do is go out to dinner, or to each other’s parties. If they live such a fabulous life – let’s see it!

      • quincyil says:

        Every year, the grandmother of two of Kim Richards’s kids (the matriac of the Davis Oil Clan,) throws a huge event as a fundraiser for diabetes. Apparently, it’s a red carpet/tuxedo event. The billionaires, movie stars, and producers go to the gala. I read that Kim’s kids are there every year. That’s a party that probably won’t be on the show, but we would all like to watch.

      • quincyil says:

        I wonder if Jill Z and Kim Z would become bosom buddies?

        • justanothermary says:

          I would like to see some of them actually admit doing something wrong and then doing something about it. I would love to see Tree and her Trunk pack up those kids and move above the pizzaria and actually work. That would be reality. Things are tough all over and I know a lot of people reajusting their lifestyle to fit the times. I want to see that happen on the HW.

  69. jana says:

    You are so funny lynn. I dare you to post a guest blogger that can write. Granted, this lady had the inside scoop, but c’mon, her writing is poor. I do think putyourhairup is a much better writer than you, but you do not agree or you wouldn’t have posted her blog. Its obvious people gather here to gossip back and forth, not read your blog, which makes perfect sense. 236 comments by about 25 people. If that. They’re not even discussing your blog. That is why your are not considered a blogger, but… more of a gossiping hen.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I see.

      And yet you’re here. Why?

    • WaxDiva says:

      You wrote: “That is why your are not considered a blogger, but… more of a gossiping hen.”
      Just wondering…is there a place where other bloggers get together to determine how other bloggers rank?

    • Kellita says:

      What is up with all the tolls lately? Is there a convention in town??

      WSL is a very beloved contributor to this blog. We always enjoy her interesting posts.

      It’s so rude to come on here to just start insulting people.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      well, if I didn’t know any better it sounds ***almost*** like you have a blog too!

      And it also sounds like you’re ANALYZING Lynn’s blog so you can find out what her secrets are to her huge following.

      Must make you just scratch your head, huh?

      Here you are following ALL of the rules in “How to Make Money At Your Own Blogging Business” and Lynn isn’t following ANY rules and her blog is more popular than yours! that is if you had a blog ;-).

      How’s about I help you out? you know just as one poster here to another?

      Here’s what you can do to drive people to your blog instead of listening to the crickets chirp:

      Open up your comments. The readers of your blog are your blog not you. Lynn figured that out a while back.

      Stop hawking Real Housewife merchandise if you want to post unbiased content. Otherwise you lose all credibility.

      Stop posting lame ass sh*t that no one cares about. You’re not curing cancer and no one cares about your righteous indignation.

      It’s just a blog. Have fun.

      • quincyil says:

        Guess what the Greek Goddess Nemesis was the patron of….

      • quincyil says:

        I had moved on to local political news when it came to me.. The complaint about the writing of someone that has dyslexia. It’s not the writing style at all. It’s the fact that Lynn had from the source original content. As I get older those ideas seem to take a little more time to come to my conscious thought. Jana is upset by this, therefore Jana is likely someone who is obsessed with this site and would rather visit here than take care of your family. I thought Jana was a troll testing Jang to see if her posts were going to go the spam hell. Surely, honored bloggers from other sites wouldn’t expect to be band here.

        I know our regular troll understand mental issues and would never give someone criticism over something like that. She fought wars to protect people with problems.

        So…now… I know why you thought it was a blogger…

        I am so dense…. but I do know my Greek gods and goddesses. I’m sure certified bloggers know too.

        • JazzNightOut says:

          Looked it up on Wikipedia so I could certify, q.

          • quincyil says:

            I was going to give a Hindu goddess, but I didn’t think we should expect a certified blogger to know that one.

            • JazzNightOut says:

              I know Parvati and Kali [;-D] and my favorite is Tara.

              • quincyil says:

                I’ve studied the ancient mythology of many cultures. The Japanese was the most difficult for me. I’ve discussed it with Japanese friends and they helped quite a bit. I should try it again. Their constellatiosn are different from other cultures too.

                • JazzNightOut says:

                  I know a very little of Shinto (kamis) and even less about Japanese Buddhism (I know there are three schools), but I like the culture a great deal. Went to Kyoto and toured the famous temples. I took a course in Japanese architecture recently and loved it.

                  • quincyil says:

                    I have my version of Japanese gardens all over my yard. My friend laugh… I should have the hanging gardens of Babylon.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          @quincy :

          It was pointed out to me by another poster here who has my email address, that there are over 1000 active serial killers in the United States at any given time.

          If your neighbor was killed by a serial killer which one would it be?

          “our” troll is not quite as prolific as you would guess from all the trollie activity here.

          Any place there is love and light, the darkness gathers outside to infiltrate and destroy.

          • quincyil says:

            I’d look at the forensic evidence as you did. It was definitely someone who thought she was blocked and did not want to waste time typing a diatribe which they knew would go to spam. It was someone who probably blocks others and knows how that works. (Being blocked here would never occur to me. )

            It was someone very jealous of Lynn. The blog of one certified blogger attacked Lynn on the very issues this blogger brought up in her post. I don’t think she is aware of WSL’s dyslexia as we all are. It’s someone who lurks here though. We know from that certified blogger’s blogs that she lurks and that is how she gets her information for her blogs.

            So one of one thousand gets whittled down and whittled down until we get one of a handful. Then we look at writing style… We all have signature writing styles, ask the FBI. They do that on ransom notes all of the time. They also did it to Ted Kaczinsky’s Manifesto.

            I think we could see the leads all point in the same direction … If you can get a mouth swab, I’ll run the DNA tomorrow morning.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              ah yes Ted K. Our own home grown terrorist.

              So disappointing isn’t it? Just like Timothy McVeigh.

              It’s not the outsiders at all. It’s the insiders that we trusted that can destroy the most.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Oh, yawn.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      So, if

    • LynnNChicago says:

      why do you care? Really just 25 people, why don’t you do your research? Look at the page above called MyMessages to… and you’ll see just how many people post here! And I’ve missed so many that I lost count. But you know what, I’d be perfectly happy with 25, how many people are chatting on your blog? Oh wait, do you have a blog?
      There are actually 339 comments but I don’t expect you to be able to count, thats why there’s a counter at the top of the screen, read it.
      I’m not an ogre and I don’t work for TWOP, don’t care what they talk about, as long as they’re enjoying the discussion. Get yourself a clue and come back when you’ve learned the definition of a blogger. I am an unpaid hobby blogger according to the professionals.

  70. TLM says:

    I saw a few postings that seem to be saying Jill is ok compared to Camille and therefore Jill is fine now. I don’t know that Jill should be given a pass just because there exists someone who is more annoying or calculating than she is. I still don’t care for people who keep score as Jill does, and who engage in all the crazy shenanigans she has. I also lost a lot of respect for her over supposed advice given in her book to seek out men with money and marry them regardless of love. I believe Camille was a golddigger and has the same philosophy.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I agree –
      I think Camille is pretty crummy – but I don’t think I’m going to be giving her much thought once the season is over. But that remains to be seen. Camille bashing Kyle is like Sheree or NeNe bashing Kim. Or the Manzo’s bashing Danielle. Sure it’s annoying, but whatever. And her personal life – is she worse than Danielle or Michaela? I don’t know – don’t really care.

      Jill on the other hand really hit a nerve. She took a genuine friendship with B and massacred it. It really didn’t seem like it was for show. And I think many of us can relate to how hurtful that really is. Now if B had forgiven her – and she had laid low in the off-season, I probably would have thought it was all for the camera (like the Kim/Sheree/NeNe fights). But … we all know that she’s been relentless all summer – and really taken things to an incredibly low level – so ….

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Jill’s bad girl ways brought about instant recall. WE ALL knew mean girls who manipulated others to do their dirty work, sullied your name, blacklisted you etc. need I go on? We all know the list. I guess that is why she hasn’t been let off the hook by the HW’s fans. She is that horrible girl. Self-centered, hateful and jealous yet desperate to be accepted by those she deems cooler.

        She’s like the female equivalent of the dweeb now middle aged, bald, paunchy and roaring around in a ferrari. Sure he’s rich and has a cool ride, but the cute guy in the chevy wouldn’t change places at all.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Jill is the girl in high school who made me a subject of gossip because I got a part in a dance recital she thought she should have had, even tho she didn’t dance and didn’t try out. She stood in the hallways and told anyone who would listen to her that I was ………….. and ………… and ………………. . I was so happy getting the part, and it felt like walking into a sheet of cold water hearing her talk about me to a group of girls I thought were my friends. I was so hurt. Danced anyway but have never forgotten how a jealous woman can make other women not talk to you over something you didn’t do. She didn’t even try out, but tried to take me down and succeeded with some. In high school being unpopular with a clique is trauma.

        • ShyAsrai says:

          and let us not forget Jillousy’s Amazon Review debacle…

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I think we’ve all had a Jill in our lives. Someone who is just really mean, even though we don’t know why. I had one – never had any classes with her, never really had any friends in common, but there was nothing I could do right around her. She would absolutely refuse to let anyone invite me to something she was going to. Luckily we went to a big school, but when Jill gave Alex the cold shoulder, or Camille did the same to Kyle – boy that reminded me of my ‘Jill’

  71. Wall St Lady says:

    Michele My Belle !
    Paul McCartney singing sweetly !
    Happy Birthday Michele !

    Your cyber cake is any flavor you like and it’s in your top dresser drawer.

    Michele ,we all love your
    Playful – Passionate & Inspired
    Personality. Yea Michele !
    Let’s also lift a tea cup to the lady who delivered u. She did good & God was in a particularly good mood when He made u ! 

    Astrology charts say you are a unique mix of playfulness and passion. Although you can light up a room with your sunny personality, you are also determined, deep, and ambitious. You will often deliberate on a problem for some time, and then ignore your analyses and jump into a decision impulsively. Your desires are deep, and you want to experience life on all levels. No one can rightfully label you superficial!

    Some of ur Birthday Buddies: 
    Bjork, born November 21, 1965 Singer, recording artist from Iceland.

    Tina Brown, born November 21, 1947 Magazine publisher/editor.

    Goldie Hawn, born November 21, 1945 Actress.

    Voltaire, born November 21, 1694 Author, philosopher.

    “Values justice and equality for all people. Sensitive and imaginative. Self-sacrificing, you help the needy. You may be dominated by others.”
    Yep ,that’s our Michele.

    Numerology of November 21

    Michele you were born on the 21st day of the month, which reduces to a 3. You radiate warmth, enthusiasm, and good cheer, and others are instinctively drawn to you. You enjoy people immensely, and you light up a room when you enter it. You are an entertaining and charming conversationalist, always ready for a good time, and you thrive on conviviality. Factoring in the 11th month of November, you are a number 5, suggesting that you are multi-talented and you have an unmistakable independent streak. Factoring in your birth year gives you your Birth Path Number—a highly personal number for you. Find out how to determine this number here.

    Most Favorable Days of the Month are 3, 12, 21, 30, especially when these days (of any month) fall on a Thursday or second-choice days of the week, Tuesday or Friday; and/or when the Sun is in Pisces or Sagittarius. Second-choice favorable days of the month are 6, 9, 18, 24, 27. The best colors for you are all mauve, violet, or purple. Second-choice best colors are blue, rose, and crimson. You might want to wear amethyst gemstones next to your skin. Properties associated with amethyst are the easing and soothing of transitions, and the building of intuition.

    This may be the best part.
    You Are Drawn to People Born on.the dates below but be careful. Some dates r magic while others tragic !

    January 17-24, March 15-25, July 15-25, September 17-26
    Easy, subtle attraction and harmony: You don’t feel an irresistible pull towards each other, but over time, appreciate the peace you have between you. These people are good for you, although they might not challenge you to grow.

    April 17-21, June 17-21, October 20-24, December 20-2
    On-again, off-again attraction. This is a complex connection, and you make an odd yet interested couple.

    January 9-13, March 2-6, August 4-8, September 27-October 1
    A mysterious attraction that can be very romantic…or completely platonic! This is a spiritual connection that has a magical quality to it.

    May 15-25
    Opposites attract. Push me, pull me. You could complement each other well if you allow yourselves to learn from each other, or you could actively war against each other.

    January 1-3, October 9-13, December 30-31
    Attraction of the soul; challenging, intense, rich, and binding.

    January 4-8, February 14-24, April 2-6, July 3-7, August 15-25, October 4-8, November 16-26
    Powerful, tumultuous attraction–you are aware of the distinct differences between you, but may be drawn to each other because of the simultaneous awareness of a need and a lack. Either the relationship is ongoing and obviously tumultuous and of a “love-hate” nature, or it flows well until it breaks unexpectedly.

    January 30-February 3, April 11-15, June 23-27, September 6-11
    Creative, communicative, inspiring, and spiritually rewarding connections.

  72. klmh says:

    Just wanted to let you know Lynn how much I enjoy this blog. I have learned so much from the other posters, not only about their different opinions about the HW, but the subject matter is so diversified and all can join in at one time or another.
    I never expected to join a blog, but this has been such a positive experience in my life. Its been almost 6 months and I look forward to visiting your blog home with the first cup of coffee in the morning.
    Thank you again for making my experience here so much fun.

  73. Amber...Real Wife says:

    It’s obvious. Camille was born to be a divorcee. She’s the desperate, needy, clingy and lonely type of divorcee. Always wanting to be with the boys, the center of attention, needing alot of assistance. It was her destiny. Pool boys, waiters, trainers and struggling actors watch out as she’s on the prowl! Now with all the money she has, she can date for pleasure (probably has been) while getting her monthly payments after the huge settlement. She wont have the cache of being Kelsey’s current wife, but she’ll get over it as many millions and many men will keep her happy enough. Can you imagine what she’ll be like single?

    • quincyil says:

      Other women need to watch out because their husbands are prey. I think that is why they call these women cougars.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      I don’t think it is possible for people like Camille to ever be happy. She will get millions and it still won’t fill that gigantic hole in her soul. Kelsey should just pay the tariff and move on. Since he is the one with talent, he will earn back what he will pay out to Camille. Let’s just all hope he doesn’t repeat the error with another bubblehead. Oh, and please Kels, a pre-nup, OK?

      • quincyil says:

        Somewhere I read that the airline hostess’s dad was over joyed that he almost 30 year old daughter was pregnant with Kelsey’s baby. I immediately thought about Kim Zolciak’s parents and how they loved big Poppa’s money.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          These are the types of parents who turn a blind eye to the obvious immoral behaviour of their children. Their only concern is that they’ve “landed” a big fish that can take care of ALL of them financially. Parents included.

          A love child would’ve lead to a shotgun wedding after the divorce and all would be great. Now that there isn’t a child, I wonder will Kelsey remarry so quickly after the divorce? Better yet, will he marry this girl?

        • ShyAsrai says:

          ugh. my mother always said, “it makes no difference if you do it for a million dollars or for one dollar – the rules apply across the board. (‘it’ referred to whatever wrongful/immoral/manipulative/dishonest/self-serving thing anyone ever did or contemplated doing)

          i’ve noticed that in a lot of shows/publicized situations/script dialogue lately i’ve been hearing a lot of “i didn’t think anyone/you would find out” and “because i knew if i asked you, you would say no”.

          1st of all: as if that is any excuse!
          2nd of all: people seem to accept that as an excuse!

  74. klmh says:

    If you build it, it will come…

    If you ignore it, it will leave…

  75. AZ Girl says:

    Re-watching last weeks episode of BH and that scene with Camille getting the call from Adrianne is so scripted. The whole Nick and his wife being there is weird. Nick is definitely being paid to watch Camille and Nick’s wife is no slouch.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      My take is that Nick is with her to get screen time to kick start his acting career – and the ‘keep an eye on Camille’ thing is just something they made up. The Nick and Camille chemistry is as awkward as the scene with Camille and Kelsey in his dressing room after the show. Every scene with Camille is carefully scripted – in her mind at least. I don’t know if she is more similar to Kelly or Danielle.

      • quincyil says:

        Someone gave the name of the company that he owns. I didn’t know what kind of company it is.

        He sure is good looking. He is conscious of his wife’s presence when Camille is being affectionate with him. I bet the couple have interesting conversations at home alone.

        • AZ Girl says:

          Nick’s wife is definitely a strong and confident woman. Camille is just trash to her. Camille is intimated by Nick’s wife. Nick’s wife does not have to worry about anything.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      I thought Camille was listening to Adrienne’s voice mail message (played to fit a space for Camille to emote) not talking to Adrienne live.

      • quincyil says:

        Aha… Camille never answers her phone. Everything goes to voicemail so she, like Jill Zarin, had a record that they can keep for months and years. Someone needs to alert the BH girls that Camille does this. They need to see the film of Jill playing that Bethenny “you need to get a hobby” comment to America and all of her friends.

  76. American Idiot says:

    Just want to let everyone know the issue with my son has been resolved to my husband’s and my satisfaction. He did not lie to us; he did not attend the unauthorized party. The “sighting” was a mistake (common name, different kid) We have been able to verify everything our son told us. Everything was discussed in a calm, cool and collected manner.

    Thanks again for all your support. I appreciate it so much. I sometimes think coming here is a waste of my time. Now I am sure it is not.

    I know I have to still deal with my friend as well. But I am going to take my time and really think about how I want to handle it before I say or do anything.

    Thanks again to everyone who responded. On to Atlanta!

    • AZ Girl says:

      Yea!!! That is so cool. Your son now knows how much you and his dad love him and he will have that in mind whenever he comes to a difficult crossroad.
      Well done!!

    • Adgirl says:

      Good for you, and your family. Phew! No uncomfortable dinners this week!

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I’m so glad all was resolved. Keep the doors of communication open with your son. And unlike Carolinebacker, get to know the parents of your son’s friends. You can be allies together. It does take a village! 🙂

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      yay! You’re a really good mom. Because you really care. And agonized over the right way to handle this situation.
      No matter if you make mistakes, your son will always know that you really care because you really love him.
      And I think that is the greatest moral compass a kid can ever have.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I’m glad it all worked out. Good call on waiting a while before talking to your friend. I have a 2 day rule when I’m mad. No emails, phone calls, or conversations until I’ve had a chance to settle down. Then I’m usually over it and can discuss things rationally.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I have the same rule! Then I really know what is bothering me and what I want to really say.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Glad to hear this was cleared up. (I was rooting for your kid, lol.)

    • quincyil says:

      Good job, MOM>

    • klmh says:

      Happy all is well.

      • American Idiot says:

        Gotta say it again, fellow posters. I’m overwhelmed by all your support and kindness. Thanks so much. Your words of wisdom are priceless. Anyone who comes here and says this blog is not the real thing is just plain dumb.

  77. Adgirl says:

    If someone posts on the internet and no one responds, is the author really a blogger?

  78. housewifeaddict says:

    Is this Nick’s wife – Tricia Small ? Is so, she’s an actress too.

    (last photo in the link with Nick)


    • JazzNightOut says:

      I think Olivia deserves a huge round of applause; she called the underlying artifice of RH franchise a long time ago.

  79. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Where’s @justanothermary and @noelle?

    I hope they’re both well, and just resting this weekend and we’ll see their postings next week.

  80. Adgirl says:

    @ floridagirl88 said “Camille can never be happy” ain’t that the truth!

    Camille feels Victory or Loss, not happiness or sadness. She conquers and vanquishes her opponents. A very destructive woman. Be glad you are not one of her darling children.
    She is the Empress of Score Keeping – extraordinaire.

  81. housewifeaddict says:

    Good news. Secrets of a Jewish Mother has dropped to ‘bargain basement’ prices. $0.20 new and $0.01 used on Amazon. No excuse now not to get one LOL.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Great time to stock up on Holiday gifts!!!

      • WaxDiva says:

        At that price, Jill will snap them all up and then sell them full price at her ‘lectures.’

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Waxdiva – normally you make sense – but I’m going to have to ask for a clarification – who would buy them at full price??? LOL!

          • WaxDiva says:

            Everyone who attends one of JZ’s ‘talks’ or ‘lectures’ will be totally captivated by JZ’s life story, her zeal for living and her secret tips handed down through generations that you can only get by purchasing the book. If you attend a ‘lecture’ by JZ, such as her intimate University of South Florida debacle, you will have to pay an extra service fee, which makes the price of the book $39.95 instead of $29.95. JZ’s appearance at USF was disappointing. She drew 100 people in a venue that seats 700 and she was embarrassed and upset. The extra $10.00 fee will be donated to the JillZarin Recovery Fund…the only way JZ can get over the USF embarrassment is by shopping and money raised through her Recovery Fund will be her WAM for her shopping trips with Carole Crist.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I’ll stick with lumps of coal!

      • mariareads says:

        Or kindling for the fire!

  82. cdnfillie58 says:

    LMAO..lady fingers fille with barbarian cream…what school did Phaedra say she went to?

    • klmh says:

      Phaedra Parks ’93B.A., Wesleyan College
      J.D., University of Georgia
      Managing Partner, The Parks Group

      In 2005, Atlanta Magazine featured Phaedra Parks ’93 as one of the Georgia Super Lawyers “Rising Stars” and in the same year Jezebel magazine recognized this Wesleyan grad as an “Attorney of Distinction.” In 2007, she not only was featured as a top young lawyer in Georgia but also graced the cover of Atlanta Magazine’s specialty publication Super Lawyers. Phaedra is managing partner for the Parks Group, where her entertainment practice focuses on contract negotiation, civil litigation and criminal defense. She has served as a legal analyst for NBC and Fox News, not to mention being recognized nationally on Entertainment Tonight, Celebrity Justice and Extra for her handling of several high-profile clients and cases. Read her story!

    • skogsstig says:

      The “barbarian” cream made me laugh, too. But maybe I’m wrong – not having a taste for refined food and all that since I was raised in a white household. Have to research that before I bake the next time….

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I loved “barbarian” cream. I’m gonna call it that from now on.

  83. housewifeaddict says:

    I have a feeling a Dr. Lue in Atlanta will be issuing some sort of press release tomorrow – clarifying his role in this Phaedra fiasco

  84. kmuellfa says:

    OK, so I may have knocked Kim’s LPN degree earlier, but I have to give her credit. She knew what surfactant is and why we need it to breathe. (it decreases surface tension in the lungs to allow gas exchange and prevents the aveoil from collapsing)

  85. klmh says:

    Wonder when Phaedra’s husband will ask for a paternity test? Probably before he files for divorce….

    • cusi77 says:

      The baby looks like Lisa Hu(?) didn’t she?

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Why would he do that? He will get child support and spousal support when they divorce and he gets full custody. LOL. Now I may snark on Phaedra, but that was a beautiful baby.

      • cusi77 says:

        I agree. Beautiful baby! I can’t believe she said “nasty” when she saw her for the first time…

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          The baby was adorable and that yawn was precious. Let’s hope her maternal instinct kicks in!

          • HD says:

            The baby was too cute. I am pretty certain that baby is Apollo’s. She just lied so she would appear holy in front of her parents who are pastors.

  86. Adgirl says:

    I also had induction then a c-section. You are exhausted and disconnected. When she breast feeds her baby they will bond.

  87. Jinx says:

    “giving birth is the closest thing to death.”

    Who knew??

  88. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Kim The Wine Spritzer Zolciak has got to be pregnant. Come on. Drinking tea at the clubhouse per Kandi’s instructions. Yeah right she’s listening to Kandi. She’s been smoking and drinking so long she wouldn’t even stop for her own children outside of the womb. Smoking in front of those children, with a full wine glass always nearby. She’s gotta be pregnant!

  89. coocoopuffs78 says:

    Hi Ladies,

    I don’t post often so please humor me but why the hell was Fakedra screaming during the C-Section. I gave birth to my twins by C-Section and only felt the tugging from the instruments but no pain at all. The recovery was a different story (THANK GOD FOR PAIN KILLERS!). Does it make a difference since she was in labor? Mine was planned so I never actually went through labor ( I paid for it in the recovery ). I swear this she-devil just irritates me. I delived my twins at 33 1/2 weeks and couldn’t even see my girl until the next day ( she was on a ventilator). You mean to tell me the first thought that came to her mind when she saw her son was “Gross”?

    • coocoopuffs78 says:

      I hope I’m not offending anyone who’s been induced. I’m really curious about the whole pain thing? Would an epidural wear off by the time she had her C-Section?

      • DarkSonnet says:

        No, the epi would not “wear off”. It is a continual administration.

        • kmuellfa says:

          Are epidurals administered differently, ie, for a vaginal vs planned c-section?

          • DarkSonnet says:


            • DarkSonnet says:

              Well, let me clarify that. (I shouldn’t be posting so late….;o)

              You can increase the rate (or decrease it to allow for some sensation for pushing).

              It is controllable. I think she was reacting to the tugging/pulling sensation more than pain. (Common)

              • coocoopuffs78 says:

                Thanks for clearing that up. Now that I looked at it again I think she was reacting to the tugging/pulling sensation. What I still don’t get is the 3 layers of lip gloss she had shellacked on her lips.

                • DarkSonnet says:

                  No kidding on the lip glop. I was waiting for her to leap up and say “I’m ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille”.

                  All things considered, I would not have been surprised. Regarding six month fetus fantasy – did you notice her size when she came into the mansion? I thought she was carrying twins, one in the front and one in the back.

          • coocoopuffs78 says:

            To my knowledge they’re administered the same but i’m no medical professional.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            When I had a c-section after my labor failed to process, they gave me another shot of something in my IV to numb me even more.

            I felt some slight pressure but NO pain.

      • kmuellfa says:

        It is possible.

      • klmh says:

        I think her fear and apprehension played a major role in her response to the pressure she was feeling during the delivery.

        • karrylin says:

          Agreed, the “pain” was her Lack of Knowledge, which led to fear of pain… Her mother scares her…when it comes to SEX, and Babies, and Premarital Sex…
          Phaedra probably heard “childbirth is the nearest thing to death”….????? from her mom, when she was young..so she wouldnt get “knocked up”. Old scary guilt trip techniques….
          And.. “Gross” at her first sight of him, she probably expected him to be all clean, not full of Birth Gook.
          the whole baby, being pregnant thing…was TOO much for her…I think.
          hopefully, she’ll turn into Super Mom! Or like most moms…Good Old Regular loving Mom…

    • Adgirl says:

      They made me take off my make up and nail polish when I had my c’s. She was in full Cleopatra. I guess things have changed.

      • DarkSonnet says:

        I think the use of the pulse oximeter has eliminated the need to see the nail bed in most cases.

        About removing the makeup – maybe you just had a sadistic nurse…. ;o)

        • Adgirl says:

          I had two c-sections, one after inducement failed. I can tell you they both were extremely uncomfortable, not exactly painful but really unpleasant. Especially the pain blocking shots in the spine. Eww. And if you don’t know (look away) they take all of the baby and lady parts out of you and put them on the table, take the baby and then put you back together. The you get sewn up. Totally not fun and my husband nearly fainted.

          Anyway I am willing to give Princess Phaedra a break on her reactions. We’ll know in a few weeks what kind of mother she is. Honestly it took me a long time to deal with all of the changes to my life and body.

          • coocoopuffs78 says:

            I think i’ll cut her some slack on her reactions too. I had such a hard time recovering from my C-Section I had to be hooked up to this strange machine that drained the blood from my incision and have a nurse come out for a about a month. Kudos to you for going through it twice! It’s time for me to head to bed. Have a good night everyone!

          • quincyil says:

            I had natural child births…no meds… 6lb 11ox, 9lbs 6oz, 10lb 5oz…..and never screamed. It’s mind over matter and I had decided that I would not do it. I was respectful to me husband, doctors and nurses. The nurses were amazed and so kind. I just focused like the books said to do.

            • Dawn says:

              Natural childbirth here – one was 9.5 and the other 8.5. Learned from first one not to scream and to focus (like Quincy said). It can be done and it was much better the second go ’round. It really is mind over matter.

              • HD says:

                Honestly and I could be wrong here, I don’t think Phaedra and Apollo really took the time to learn about childbirth or go to classes or anything on what to expect. I thought she was overreacting but everyone is different. I had a C-section too and I couldn’t feel one thing but maybe that was just me. I think if she took the time to educate herself she would have been better prepared.

            • AZ Girl says:

              Brave soul. I did stick it out with back and regular labor with the first and then got an epidural because I had to have a c-section. Second boy came 13 1/2 later and the nurses still remembered me! They were like “What are you doing back here” Second boy was forceps and definitely had an epidural for that My babies heads were huge!

            • karrylin says:

              God bless you gals that “focus and have the mindset” to not do epidurals etc

              But…God bless all the gals that have had epidurals too!
              There is NO shame in pain relief.

              Mind over matter, doesnt always work…with each baby you have. Sometimes, a birth for many reasons, is just more difficult than others.

              But, if you can do it without meds, awesome!

    • BessiB says:

      In all fairness, that was my first thought.

  90. error404 says:

    Phaedra is a stand up comic, right? Right? Isn’t that the only explanation? Otherwise, her and her husband would lose on a game show called “Are You Smarter Than a Box of Rocks?”. Seriously, these two fools are the most shockingly ignorant idiots I’ve ever met.

  91. error404 says:

    Why does Andy keep having Kim Z on WWHL? She just sits there like a styrofoam fix stand. Zzzzz

  92. Kat says:

    Wall St Lady, I loved this blog. I enjoy your eye for detail and I appreciate you taking the time to share this experience on Lynn’s blog. Thank you.

  93. skogsstig says:

    Still haven’t stopped laughing at Phaedra and her “ladyfingers filled with barbarian cream.” Maybe she was talking about Twinkies?

    • HD says:

      Everyone is talking about that on Facebook. I hate when people try to sound all intelligent and use the words wrong. You are better off not saying anything. Barbarian creme. Okay. Where they make that at? LOL! Give me a break!

      • quincyil says:

        Bavarian cream…

        I made a lot of typos this morning as my glasses are in the bedroom and I didn’t want to disturb my husband’s sleep to find them. Everyone makes mistakes. I actually am beginning to like Phaedra. She can redeem herself on the show. She doesn’t seem mean and she isn’t trying to hurt someone else. She made a few comments that are offensive to the White population, but we can take those hits with grace. Besides, someone must be buying all of those cans and packages at the grocery stores.

  94. MSU Chicago says:

    I am not a mother, so I do not know. Was Phaedra’s reactions acceptable, or pathetic as it sounds? Was she lawyering it, because there is a difference? I cannot, nor will not believe that her feelings were fine in this case. I would imagine giveing birth to a child would negate all of the business feelings. All of my friends who have children, lawyers involved, did not act the way she did. Christ, I am not a child person for myself; but an autie to a few kids, and was more excited than she was when they were born. Her situaton floored me.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Phaedra was frightened by the experience. She’s a first time mom with no friends who have shared their experiences with her so it was unknown territory. That she chose to put the delivery on national TV is surprising. I would not have the audience know that the doctor was inserting the cervical softener in my vagina. For a supposedly chaste virgin before marriage, that was unusually brave. She was reacting to pressure, not pain in the Csect. My daughter called us moments after her section when my son in law left with our granddaughter. She had no pain. She’s an anesthesiologist and has helped many women in delivery.

      Women do die in delivery. Phaedra is correct that in our normal lives, that is one of the times that women do come close to death. It happened often in the past. All you have to do is read the history books or take a tour of an older cemetary. Mother and child… so often it’s on the gravestones..

      I thought she did the best she could under those circumstances. She could have spent a little time reading about the process, but she was busy.

      I myself was worried that the nurses would think I was a bad mom so I had the babies with me even though I was tired and really could have benefitted by sleep with the knowledge that my babies were in the care of professional nurses. Even though I had studied and had many younger siblings, the nurses helped me with nursing and gave me confidence. I had a physician husband and a twelve year old sister there to help me with the first baby and I was still afraid. Baby two and Baby three… I was a better mom.

      She’s on camera and she did well. Her mother seemed interested, but very firm. Her husband was loving (despite the fact that he was raised in a white household and ate out of cans.) The baby was swollen from the labor and hormones of the mothers, thus the eyes that looked Chinese to Phaedra. He was a tad blue when first removed too. That doctor was really good. The nurses were professional too.

    • HD says:

      No. It was not acceptable. No mother in their right mind carries a life for 9 months and then says “gross” when it is born. At least not one that I know. I had a c-section and when my daughter came out I was crying so bad the doctor asked me was I feeling pain.

      Bringing a life into this world is amazing. Not gross. I mean damn, she is so dumb. They are going to clean the baby up. STFU please, Phaedra. She works my nerves so bad I think I might hate her more than Jill. (Well maybe not)

      • quincyil says:

        I teach in a hospital nursing school and have taught the first year bio classe where we show a film of delivery. I’ve had nursing students faint when the blood was show on the screen. We help them get over the phobia with gentle exposure over time.

        There’s a lot of stuff happening in her delivery. I thought her decision to have to section was excellent. She listened to her physcian and agreed with his opinion. You would be shocked at how many moms argue and wait. On occassion, the baby gets damaged by the labor and failed delivery.

        Bethenny Frankel made the decision for the section well too.

        HD, I love it that we can disagree and still enjoy discussing together. I think you are fantastic. Loved your web site. Love your writing….

        • quincyil says:

          OK…. I have to have glasses on..and think about my spelling. physician occasion… I do know the rules, it’s just that I don’t feel the rules apply to me. rotfl. I also park my grocery store shopping cart in the middle of the aisle when I am thinking about what I am buying. You’d think I owned the store.

        • HD says:

          Thank you, Quincy for the comments on my website and writing. I love that we can agree or agree to disagree and all hell doesn’t break loose. I am part of a forum on Facebook and if I say ONE thing this one particular person wants to come and skin me and wear me like last year’s Versace. 🙂

          I think seeing the blood and all that (especially during a C-section when your stomach is bascially wide open) would gross you out but Phaedra could not see any of that. Of course they have the sheet up because they know any normal person would probably faint if they saw that. All she saw was her baby that she carried for nine months and the FIRST thing out of her mouth was “gross”. I don’t know any mother that actually says that. I didn’t even think it. I thought WOW, my baby, a life, does she have all her fingers and toes, etc. Not gross.

          Phaedra doesn’t get a pass from me. Phaedra has never said one thing that made me think she really wanted this baby. Dollars to doughnuts, it was not planned, she got pregnant on accident and now is dealing with it-poorly might I add. Everytime she mentions the baby she makes an ugly face. Now she just has an accesory to go with her Hermes bag or something.

          • quincyil says:

            I think you should stand up for your beliefs no matter what another thinks. I do respect everyone here. At times, I totally disagree, but it really doesn’t bother me.

            I think Phaedra will grow on us and we will come to like her. She’s had a rough start, but look at how her husband loves her. Look at how he loved his son. What we see on camera might be Bravo’s editing. LOL…. Bravo likes to make their own stories as we all know.

            • HD says:

              I cannot see myself ever liking Phaedra but stranger things have happened. As for her husband…love…I do not see love when I see those two together. I see a man that is an ex-con that got with his possible lawyer, hit it a few times, got her pregnant and knowing Phaedra she mentioned being married because Lord knows she would not have an abortion in her family. So he marries her because she has money and it is a nice meal ticket. They got married in November of last year right? Are they going through Christian counseling already? Then when the people asked them how they were doing they said, “we do good for a FEW weeks.” There is more going on there. Apollo seems like he tolerates Phaedra because his options are limited right now. Maybe what I said was harsh but that is how I see it.

              • quincyil says:

                So in real time, they went to therapy? Jason Hoppy said that is the end…

                I never had the gay male friend influencing me in my marriage as so many of the women on these series have. Phaedra has Dwight telling her she is correct. Taylor has the gay friend who criticized her husband in those interviews at the birthday party, and Michaele had Paul. That puts another dynamic into the mix besides the inlaws that we all have. Let’s face it, you marry into a families.

                I think Phaedra is pretty and it seems she does get her figure back because she looks fine in photos now.

                Maybe, she will go to parenting classes too. I went and it really does help you to understand how to approach all people. I was lucky and a school child pschologist taught my classes. I learned so much. Hubby did not go BTW…. LOL..

                • OneMoreInBoston says:

                  ladies I fell asleep AGAIN, and missed it all…but was able to finally see the preceding reruns.

                  I think I’m beginning to really like Phaedra. because this has got to be a put on.

                  I think she’s pulling off the greatest con since Andy Kaufman- and when you look at her on RWOA and look at it as performance art- she’s hilarious!

          • But she was in command of her other senses, and you can hear and feel things going on. You might not feel pain, but you do feel pressure as the baby is lifted out, and as they “rearrange” things back to order before they put you back together again. An the sounds of suction are rather startling too. I was a first time mom when I had a section and the sounds, sights (the room), smells (disinfectants), all got to me eventually.

            Everyone has a different and unique experience of childbirth.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Honestly, when they put my first baby into my arms and he wasn’t cleaned up at all, all the blood and stuff on him was a little gross. But we bonded normally. My reaction to the stuff covering him was not my reaction to him.

        I find a bleeding cut gross – even if is on my own kids. I thought about being a nurse, but fainted during a ‘work experience’ day after seeing an incision being cleaned. So I’m not going to judge Phaedra – on this scene.

  95. Tlm says:

    Camille, I don’t know how I have been so blind. Of course Kyle is jealous of you. She’s younger, prettier, has a hot husband who’s successful and a great dad while you were married to a guy in his 60s who purposely took a job where he would live apart from you for a year when he could work anywhere. You spend your time throwing yourself at a younger man, or any man who’s around, in a desperate and embarrassing constant need for attention. Yes, Camille, I can certainly understand how Kyle is jealous of you.

  96. Tlm says:

    Does anyone else get a strong gay vibe from Nick stabile? The hug that he had with Camille seemed to me like a gay guy and his hag. But it was obvious that in camille’s mind, she was pretending they were lovers. If he is really married, what wife would put up with him constantly fawning over another married woman? And I couldn’t believe it when on the NYC trip that was a girls’ trip, who is sitting next to Camille in the audience, but NICK again? WTF?

    • quincyil says:

      Not gay, very uncomfortable with the attention and touching from Camille…that was my impression. He seems to be embarrassed every time he is with Camille on camera. He knows they are being filmed. I believe I saw a grimmace when she made the ball comments during tennis. He asked if she called to apologize to Kyle before the NYC trip. I replayed that and listened carefully. When the too much breast comment was asked in NYC, he leaned towards his wife whose hands were in the range of the camera.

      I think Nick and his wife wanted national exposure for their careers as did Max. I don’t think Nick is a gigolo, gay or a real friend to Camille. I think he live in Hollywood and saw this as an opportunity.

      This is off topic, but yesterday morning I watch part of Kelsey Grammer in a Chrismas tale where he played Nick St. Nicolas and became Santa Claus. The scenes where he asked the bad girl to marry him were affectionate than any of the scenes with Camille. So I think Kelsey was real on the Real Housewives of BH. He showed us the real Kelsey. He can act if he wants to act.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Yes I agree with Quincy. He signed up for screen time, not to look like a boy toy and he is uncomfortable with all her fawning – especially as his wife is close by in many scenes.

      • klmh says:

        I agree as well

        • TLM says:

          But if he’s uncomfortable, it’s odd that he keeps coming back for more. I agree that it’s for the tv exposure.

          • quincyil says:

            I bet it’s really hard to get a start in Hollywood. There are many attractive people and few positions. I wouldn’t know how to go about it.

  97. Tlm says:

    I can’t stand Phaedra but I don’t think I can judge anyone who’s going through labor. I’m sure plenty of people say and do strange things. It is an intense situation and a huge physical and emotional stress. Not to mention there are drugs involved. Everyone reacts differently. I’ll hold someone accountable for what they say under normal conditions, but not while they are in labor or being cut open. I think to say it’s just mind over matter is hurtful to other women. Maybe it was mind over matter for you, but each person is different and each woman’s anatomy is different. I don’t have any kids but I personally can’t imagine not making a sound during childbirth, and I don’t see any special nobility in that. I have screamed over far less!!

    • quincyil says:

      I said for me it was mind over matter. I don’t see it as hurtful to others as I totally understood and supported Phaedra in her delivery. I was able to control my own behavior. I didn’t say it was a rule for anyone else.

      I did not generalize this.

      • quincyil says:

        I also didn’t say that there was nobility… I said that this was my experience. I think you misjudged me, but that is your right on this board. Please, read my comments above and see that I am supportive of Phaedra.

        • quincyil says:

          Also, I didn’t say I didn’t make a sound. I had conversations during the process. You can talk in childbirth.

          • quincyil says:

            Sorry about the multiple replies. I have to do something that is timed so I kept responding to a bell. LOL TLM… we so agreed on all of the Phaedra stuff… LOL..

        • TLM says:

          My comments weren’t directed at any one person — I meant “you” generically, since I skimmed over comments and saw a few that agreed with the mind over matter concept. I dislike much about Teresa Giudice, but when she was screaming in the delivery room I was cringing and I felt bad for her. I doubt that I would be much different.

  98. Zipit Zarin says:

    I had 3 children naturally. With each baby I learned more what I didn’t want…such as an episiotomy (sp), and a monitor for contractions. They were all full term and tiny 5, 5 and 6 lbs. The worst part of the first one was healing from the episiotomy that I didn’t need. The second one was the monitor while yer flat on your back…the worst position. So the third one I was glad the doctor was late and I got to be left alone. The other two children were in the next room and got to come in and help dad cut the cord after I covered up. I didn’t scream and that is because to me being hysterical would make it even more surreal than it is and I just wouldn’t/couldn’t go there. Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like to really let go and be selfish <–was raised by a stern father where emotions were not allowed to be expressed because it made him uncomfortable so, to me, being over the top emotional makes me feel I'm being selfish. We were sent away from the table for laughing at dinner. And if you cried about anything you were met with scorn and mocking. Just typing that makes me realize how wrong it is but knowing something doesn't always translate into behavior.

    All this to say, how people act during the most intense experience is very personal (duh LOL) and I love hearing about other women's birthing experiences. Men share war experiences with each other (i assume) and women share birthing experiences with each other.

    Good Morning Vietnam! 😀

    • quincyil says:

      I bet we had kids about the same time. I enjoy learning too. I have had friends who had such easy and quick deliveries that there was no time for meds. There is a range and mothers that have a rough time with one can have an easy time with another. I have been around women in labor as I was a nurse’s aid for 8 years while in school. Older mom’s which I think Phaedra and Bethenny are… have a harder time.

      My daughter had an epidural with an induced delivery due to high BP. She called us throughout the labor and called us to discuss the section. The baby was fine, but labor was not progressing as it should have. The doctor was still working on her when she called us back. Modern technology is wonderful.

      All that matters is the baby and the mom…. How people react, what kind of procedures are done…. If the baby and mom are ok, it is wonderful.

    • quincyil says:

      Also, we probably studied natural childbirth. The breathing and keeping calm reduce stress and pain. That is true in Chinese medicine too. I took the classes alone. I had swollen hands so I couldn’t wear my ring. The nurse instructor used me as her model and she helped me in class as I was the only women without a birthing partner. I remember telling everyone that I really had a husband. LOL He didn’t believe in going as he was a doctor and after med school in Iran had delivered 1000 babies. They have drive in delivery there. Big hospitals that only do deliveries day and night. The doctor never saw the woman before and won’t see her again. In the Iranian army, he went from village to village delivering babies if he was in the town doing a clinic at the time the women delivered. In those villages, there are midwives and sometimes the women die because the midwives don’t do Csections.

      It was interesting to watch my husband’s behavior during my labors too. He was in the hallway being congratulated by his many partners, watching Johnny Carson on tv, and in his office doing paper work for baby one, baby two and baby three. The nurses were my companions and I love them for how they took care of me. BTW… his behavior doesn’ t bother me.. It was more like the way our father’s generation acted. They weren’t in the delivery rooms back then. My mom and many of the moms of board members did it alone.

    • TLM says:

      No laughter at dinner and mocking for crying? That sounds horrifying. I think I’d be eating in my room every night. It is not selfish to be human and show emotion…it is selfish to demand that others don’t. If you haven’t seen it, you may want to rent the movie The Great Santini with Robert Duvall. About a rigid, violent and demanding father. Ironically there’s a scene in which the father praises his wife to their son on the son’s birthday, telling him that right after giving birth she was sitting up and looking great, that she was tough. The emphasis on everything in that family was not displaying emotion and being obedient to the father no matter what.

  99. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi Tim
    I haven’t seen u here Befor. I am glad u r here. We love strong opposing thought provoking opinions. But in Quincy’s case I know she was just sharing her opinion. Quincy is a hero & example of unusually fine character. If u stay around u too will come to admire & love her. She does many things that are amazing and often way off the beaten track but always with dignity and honor.
    She rides horses & cares for them including shoveling manure. She is a 1st rate award winning artist. She repairs statues for churches out of the goodness of her heart. She is married to a world renound Dr. From the middle East yet leads a unique but unpretentious life. She has raised 3 lovely ,professional children that were as academically outstanding as they now are professionally. Recently she was gone for a week to paint and clean an apartment for her son so that it could be sold. I can guarantee if I had her financial success and our age(5mumble mumble) I wouldn’t have lifted a brush (not even for the Pope).
    But that is our Quincy.
    It doesn’t surprise me at all that Quincy went natural. She is an example to us all that it is still possible to do many things many of us don’t do.
    I never had children but I believe it is best for the baby to avoid drugs unless there are sudden complications. It doesn’t surprise me at all that she would personally make a sacrifice that; in this day and time, most mothers don’t choose(I sure wouldn’t ). Once she walked miles after a terrible ,scary act of nature to feed & check on her mom. And don’t let me forget ,every Sat.she does her mom & several of her mom’s 80yr+ friend’s hair the old fashion way,with curles then under the dryer.
    I can promise u not one single person on this blog took offense at Quincy’s comments about her birthing experience or took it as an offense to any one who took a different path. We all just marveled at how cool she continues to reaeal to us that she is.
    Personally I was inspired by learning but another amazing experience I got to see thru my very dear dear Quincy’s experience.
    I hope u hang around so that u too have can experience the very cool lady that the LynnFam truly loves from the “sticks” of Quincy Il.

    • quincyil says:

      Wow, thanks for coming to the board. You are my friend and I love you.

      I like TLM also. TLM is a faithful member of the Lynn family and I’m glad TLM has chosen to share here.

      As adults, we all know that you can read something and get the wrong impression. Actually, the real housewives demonstrate that you can hear something and get the wrong impression on the screen every week. On some boards you see Kyle/Camille NYC dinner moments daily. That’s why I am here with all of the people I respect.

      • karrylin says:

        wow Quincyil I knew you were cool and love to share with the Lynnnfam….but I had NO idea about all the things you do, that are so varied in nature!!
        horse manure, set hair weekly, paint, etc etc
        Awesome, you have a great life! And, successful adult children!
        now that is the sweetest blessing of a mom…to see her children do well…in my opinion!
        I Love hearing about the success of others, it always encourages others, to know that a Big Life is possible, even when the current life…is not so hot!
        As well as the down times…I do believe that relationship is what heals and fixes the sadness we might come across, just knowing someone says Hi, I hear you…can be a balm that heals the soul, and allows someone to carry on…

        thats really cool to know about you! thanks to WSL for sharing…So Much cool stuff on this blog!!! Love the Fam!

        its true, one persons words, can be misinterpreted so easily, and offense can come, and without asking someone, and giving grace, relationship can be lost!

        Love you all…

        WSL….LOVED the blog about Alex and Simon!
        They are as I suspected…regular normal loving people.
        And..how nice to know that they are not just “all about being on RHONYC”

        • quincyil says:

          No relationship was lost. I follow Lynn’s rules and try to respect all here.

          Thanks for the kind post.

      • TLM says:

        TY Quincy… as I said my comments were not directed toward any one person. But the issue is personal to me since I suffered very severe cramps for many years. I was told “big deal” by another woman who never had that issue, which was like a slap in the face, and others implied at times I was exaggerating their severity. I went to two female gyns who were less compassionate than male docs because they themselves did not have my issues. I did not enjoy telling people I was in pain, because it was personal and embarrassing and sounded like I was whining, so I would often make up other reasons why I couldn’t go places. Drugs basically did not help me. I had other issues with pain for years where my own family essentially told me I was faking – until surgery revealed very real reasons for the pain. That is something I will never forget. It is bad enough when strangers think whatever they want to, but your family should at least believe and support you.

        • quincyil says:

          Totally understand. I’ve had migraines so I know pain.

          We are good on this… I am sorry that you have suffered.

          • TLM says:

            Thank you. Probably the worst part of all of it was the lack of support of family. After years of accusations of lies & exaggerations directed at me, when they heard there was a real reason, the only response was “Oh – sorry.” This from a relative who actually went to the extent of writing me a letter criticizing me for not attending a family dinner, when her own kids skipped out on anything they didn’t feel like going to, including funerals. If it wasn’t a party, they weren’t there and were never held accountable. I guess every family has its black sheep, and for some reason I was held to a standard no one else was. Still don’t know why.

  100. Kat says:

    @WSL Good Morning. I’m adjusting to your new green quilt. It’ll grow on me.

    • quincyil says:

      Kat, I think she’s lucky because Christmas is coming and she’s already decorated. What is yellow good for? No one dresses up in yellow for any holiday. I don’t have Iman’s skin and yellow is not a good color for me.

      • Kat says:

        @quincy What color would you like? Perhaps I could help.

        Yellow reminds me of the warm golden sun. I think that suits your personality well.

        • quincyil says:

          Kat, that is nice and it makes me like yellow especially now, when the sun is gone for so many hours a day. I think I’ll keep it and think of your kind words every time I look at my yellow avatar. I love sunrise and sunsets. I paint them all of the time.

  101. ArizonaMagpie says:

    Ok, I give up!

    What does TWOP mean?


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