I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

I Hate Jill Zarin                   The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills      Dec 3, 2010

The more we get to know the Beverly Hills Housewives, the more we realize, they’re not a whole lot different from us.  Right?

Don’t we all go shopping for gowns to wear to the Tony Awards?  And haven’t we all gone for an electric facial at one point in our lives?  Don’t we all discuss our personal problems with our personal stylists?  Haven’t we all attended dinner parties at lavish estates with 17 bathrooms?

Well maybe we haven’t done those things but I’ll bet some of you have dealt with a child being allergic to a new pet.  I’m not a fan of Taylor’s, but I did feel heart sick for her daughter Kennedy, who is suffering because of her most favorite birthday gift.  It seems little Snowball, the cute puppy that she got for her birthday, is causing congestion and rashes.   Daddy Russell is less than sympathetic simply saying, “I don’t want to get rid of the dog”.   Taylor definitely saw this as an opportunity to rid her life of the pooping and peeing machine but it was obvious too that she felt bad having to break her daughter’s heart.  Russell proved once again that he’s the boss, it seems as though they’ve chosen to medicate Kennedy and keep little Snowball.

Last night’s episode was even better because it was almost Camille-free.  We watched as she tried on a few gorgeous gowns for the Tony Awards as she disgustingly gushed over her husband’s many awards and listing all of the red carpet’s she’s walked down.   She also let slip that Kelsey Grammer may have been faking some of those smile’s for his peers on the nights that he walked away without an Emmy. 

Nominated over a dozen times and winning five, apparently he got upset when he lost a few times and had to fake his congratulations to the winners.   Camille just had to be sure to tell the viewers that her husband is a sore loser, ain’t she nice Kelsey?  Ain’t she?  I can’t imagine why he divorced her ass.

The only other mention of Camille for the evening was at the massive estate of Lisa’s friend who graciously hosted a dinner party for the remaining housewives, seemingly only to set up Kim Richards with a close friend of Lisa’s.  Kyle joined the rest of us in her glee that Camille wasn’t at the lavish party.  It was a strange party, but we’ll get to the bash in a minute.

It was nice to see more of Adrienne, she and her husband Paul have one of those marriages that we’ve all seen before.  The husband clearly loves his wife a whole lot more than she loves her husband.  But it seems to work for them.  Adrienne is tentative as Paul plans their 8th wedding anniversary celebration as she explains that one past year Paul gave her a purse shaped like a Champaign bottle.   They were very cute but it seems as though Paul was trying very hard to create a romantic atmosphere and Adrienne is just not that kinda gal.  “It seems like 75 years” was her response when Paul toasted to their 8 years together.

The couple is served a huge cheese fondue that looks like it would feed a small nation, Adrienne refuses to eat any of it and best I can tell Paul took only one bite.  Luckily they now have a beautiful huge German Shepard dog to eat the leftovers.  Paul’s gift this year was not a gaudy purse but an amazing dog shipped over from Germany.

Now I don’t know if any of you are dog lovers or are familiar with the growing epidemic of overflowing dog shelters but Paul apparently doesn’t.  I can even understand if you want a pure bred German Shepard rather than a mutt from the pound but there are dozens of breeders in the United States who breed German Shepard’s.   I mean why would you have a dog flown over from Europe who doesn’t even speak English?  This couple doesn’t speak German, how on earth will they communicate with the German dog?  ( I kid, I kid)

What I love about Adrienne and Paul is that we’re finally getting a housewife who didn’t marry her husband for money, she isn’t stuck in a marriage because she needs the financial security, and they’re not pretending to be something that they’re not.  Adrienne is the epitome of “keeping it real”.  I detest that phrase because it is so over used and has lost its meaning but it fits here.

The focus of the episode was this dinner party that seemed to celebrate nothing but was simply held to introduce Kim to Lisa’s friend Martin.  All of the housewives arrive with their husband’s except Camille who is polishing Kelsey’s Emmy’s and couldn’t make it.  Kim is nervous as she prepares for her blind date and Kyle is nervous that Kim may not show up.  Unpredictable and bat shit crazy, you never know what Kim will do.  Kim is unlike the other crazy housewives as she’s a good crazy, she’s not vicious and cruel like Kelly Bensimon of New York, Teresa Giudice of New Jersey, Kim Zolciak of Atlanta or Michaele Salahi of DC.  Kim is Beverly Hill’s nutty character but she’s got a good heart, she doesn’t have a mean bone in her body.  We’ll leave that to Camille Grammer.

Lisa refuses to give Kim her dates name in advance so that she wasn’t able to Google him and get any advanced information about this guy.  Lisa is just a nice person, she’s unique to the Housewives franchise as there is no apparent underlying negativity toward anyone, and she’s clearly not doing the show for the fame and fortune.   She is a great mother and seems to have a wonderful marriage, her only crutch may be Cedric the houseguest from hell.

Apparently Cedric found himself very comfortable at the home of his mistress’ friend Mohamed and helped himself to the fancy Jacuzzi, when the party guests caught him he jumped up revealing his less than impressive package that Lisa described as “Dynamite with a 2 inch fuse”.  Lisa has got it all and she’s hysterically funny as well.  She doesn’t try too hard (ala Kim Zolciak) but lets the one liners fly leaving viewers laughing out loud.

Kim arrives to the party late and finally meets her prince charming, Martin as all the other housewives stare, point and giggle like school girls making the couple feel a bit uncomfortable.  They seem to hit it off until dinner is served and Kim disappears for a time.  It’s not clear how long Kim was gone but it was apparently long enough to concern the other party goers.  Kim returns to the dinner table on the arm of another guy, after having snuck up to one of the 20 bedrooms to have sex, sorry I made that part up.  Kim explains that there are other nice looking gentlemen at the party but she does have an attraction to her date, Martin.

The couple leaves the party hand in hand as Kyle lets us know he’ll be driving her home.  Hopefully Kim has found the man of her dreams and Kyle can go back to taking care of her own beautiful family and not worry so much about her big sister.  Watch what happens…

Adrienne Maloof and Lance Bass joined Andy Cohen for this episode of Watch What Happens Live, unfortunately while I adore Adrienne, she did not make for a very exciting guest and Lance Bass didn’t add anything to the program.

Adrienne avoided the plastic surgery question that seems to get lobbed at every Housewife in that chair but she did share with us that she is a PTA Mom, she did have her wedding gown encased in glass and hung on the wall but just giggled when Andy complimented her husband’s watch collection and its’ unique storage display.  The spinning watches featured as the couple prepared to leave for a funeral in an earlier episode, keep the watches fresh and ready to wear as many watches require movement to keep the battery and mechanisms working properly.

Adrienne was asked if she thought Camille flaunts her wealth but avoided that question as well.  I would much rather have heard her answer a simple question like, “What is your impression of Camille?”  or something similar.

The poll question tonight asked if fans thought that Adrienne was too mean to her husband, a close vote but Adrienne is apparently just the right amount of mean to her husband as 53% voted “no”.  Paul voted as well at the end of the show he shared that he did not feel his wife was mean to him.

Andy Cohen was in rare form calling Paul by his wife’s last name Maloof when actually Paul’s last name is Nassif, open mouth and insert foot Mr. Cohen.  Just in case anyone forgot, Andy also reminded us no less than 10 times that he is Jewish but his two guests were not Jewish.  And this matters because….???

Overall a rather dull Watch What Happens Live, on Sunday night Sheree will be joining Andy Cohen on the show.

Other Housewives News:

Rumor has it that NeNe’s oldest son Brice is going to be a daddy, Grandma NeNe has a nice ring to it. Unfortunately she’ll be single as it appears as though she’s going through with the divorce from her husband Gregg.

NeNe is hosting a Las Vegas bash on Sunday night, she posted these tweet about her gig:


@NeNeLeakes: Come party with me @ The Mirage Sunday nite n Vegas!
I’ll bet NeNe is a fun party guest!

Kandi is on tour with Fantasia and tweeted this earlier in the week:

@Kandi: Earlier 2day I was n tears about some things that weren’t going my way…. But Dallas showed me so much love that I’m smiling again! Thank u

Kandi is great but her constant promotion of her upcoming CD drop is getting a bit old.  Some of the criticism must have reached her because she’s been tweeting more without mentioning her CD lately.
Kelly Bensimon is always good for a chuckle or two:

@kikilet    @uggsboots211 my kids and I are obsessed with cozy uggs. Slippers for any outdoor whether. Sooo cozy

I don’t know how this woman graduated from Columbia without being able to spell “weather”.   I wonder if she got a pair of free Uggs for her tweet.  And our friend Real City Housewife (PutYourHairUp) helped out Kelly this week:

@kikilet Invited to a hanukkah party, what do i bring??
@PutYourHairUp    Cold latkes. Duh. Didn’t Jill tell you that?

Speaking of Jill, she celebrated her birthday this week, she had this to say to fans:

@JillZarin:  Did I stop and THANK ALL OF YOU who emailed, wrote, called and tweeted me for my Birthday. It looks like a funeral here! Just kidding. MUAH!
@JillZarin:  Look what just arrived from my Bobby! I can’t even smell them I’m so sick! Luv u honey!! http://tl.gd/782ajj

As some of you may know, I have joined Yahoo’s Associated Content site and they have published my first article, this morning they published my second offering.  I submitted an article on the Children of Bravo and it was also published!  I’m well on my way to losing the Hobby Blogger title and becoming a “professional writer”  hahaha  (that’s a joke!)

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Until Next Time…


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450 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

  1. ShyAsrai says:

    choosing a pet over a child’s health is disgusting.

    • TLM says:

      I’m confused…yesterday in the blog, I thought Taylor was called a “heartless bitch” over this dog issue. Everyone was slamming Taylor for fabricating that her daughter had an allergy, which I never thought she did. The woman was crying at the thought of having to take the dog away, because of the pain it would cause her daughter, even though Taylor personally had not wanted a dog. For this she’s a “heartless bitch”? I was also really confused by many people praising Russell, who to me it seemed was the heartless one, not caring about his wife OR daughter since he wanted a dog himself. I felt he disrespcted his wife by going ahead and getting a dog despite them having agreed not to.

      On a different topic, does anyone know about the recording sessions with Jenny Pulos for Bravo, and how long they were? It seems like every week they’re playing her saying something else on WWHL. I wonder if they kept her captive for a week and just had her record every phrase from every show? LOL. She recorded “prostitution whore” and “she by sheree”…I’m waiting to hear what else they play from The Jenny Sessions!

      To Lynn’s question about Andy mentioning the non-Jews…maybe it was just funny to Jewish people, because I laughed. It was just the irony I guess of having a “Chanukah Show” where no one but Andy was Jewish. I actually thought Adrienne and Lance might each have been Jewish also (Bass is a common Jewish name. Maloof was less likely, but still possible). I didn’t fault Andy for calling Paul “Paul Maloof.” Many times when a wife is more famous than her husband, her husband gets mistakenly labeled with that name, since people still assume wives take her husband’s name. Personally I am more bothered by the fact that people constantly call me “Mrs.” when they don’t even know me!! Drives me up the wall.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Hi, TLM – I think you are just seeing that we have different views of things. Some think the allergy was real and some (like me) don’t. So when you read that some (like me) call Taylor a heartless bitch on this issue, that doesn’t mean everyone on the board thinks that is the case.

        As for crying over it, they showed the crunchy cry face when the camera was on her and then a second later her face is … well, her face is never normal, but it was not crunched up. Could have been an editing cut, but it happened a couple of times, so I don’t think so. I don’t think there were ever real tears about this.

        I also don’t think that Taylor was really worried about hurting her daughter. This woman, knowing that her daughter is very shy, threw a ridiculous, huge, insane birthday party that the child had no interest in and wanted to stay as far away as possible. I think Taylor doesn’t understand kids at all, doesn’t understand her daughter, but bottom line is that she doesn’t care. That party was for her, not for Kennedy. If she was really concerned about Kennedy, they would have had a quiet little party with Mommy and Daddy and maybe a couple of Kennedy’s friends.

        • HD says:

          TLM, I got that impression as well from the other blog comments that they should keep the dog and Taylor was wrong. I suffer from allergies and they suck! Why would you medicate a child when you don’t have to? Get rid of the damn dog! He shouldn’t have got the dog anyway if they had not agreed together. That is not how you build a marriage by doing what the hell you want to.

          Russell, in my opinion, came off so rude. His wife was upset and he wants to think about keeping the dog. Your daughter has a rash, her eyes are puffy and crusty and you want to keep the dog. Keep the child, get rid of the dog.

          Also it sucks because Taylor comes off as the evil mom that got rid of the dog and I am sure Russell is going to sit back and let it look that way. I don’t like him for some reason. I can’t put my finger on it but he is not right. I just know it.

          • quincyil says:

            Because of the producer’s comment that the allergy was real and the look of the rash on the arm, I think the allergy was real. The doctor said the eyes and nose didn’t look remarkable, but how long was she away from the puppy before the exam. Unfortunately, kids do get allergies. Farm kids get allergies too. Amish farm kids get allergies.

            I would give the gorgeous dog to a friend and keep Daddy. He doesn’t understand that the allergy is probably here to stay and that children should not be exposed to allergens.

            Sorry… it’s true.

          • Ok all not so fast on the allergies. As a kid I suffered from severe pet allergies.. The Dr. said that if I didnt start to get allergy shots & medication then it would be worse as I became an adult. I am glad I took his advice and got pricked once a week. I had over 37 allergies raging from cats, dust mites, bees and fresh cut grass. In a lot of my kid pics my eyes always looked black and blue b/c I was constantly sneezing & it started as Kennedy’s rash did. And guess what they inject you w/ when you get allergy shots? EVERYTHING YOUR ALLERGIC TOO in small doses to let ur body build up the antibodies to sub stain them. kinda like when your hung over they say “bite the snake back that bit ya- when curing a hangover meaning drink alcohol -YUCK I KNOW but its true. If I would of never have done that I would not be able to rescue animals, be out side when my neighbor cuts their grass and would have to live in a glass house b/c dust mites are everywhere.. Guess what though? My Dr. never recommended getting rid any house pet either. He just said stay away from it for about a month or so if all possible til my allergy medication took it course. I still to this day talk 10mg a Claritin a day & have allergic reaction to bee stings. But I’m so glad I can be around cats. It was bad when i was a kid. My eyes would swell shut, I would get huge rashes etc.. It was awful!

        • TLM says:

          I didn’t like the birthday party she did either, but I did feel the dog situation was a genuine one. I get the impression that Taylor is very (I know this is a loaded word on this show) insecure, to a large degree. I think she feels she’ll never be thin enough or pretty enough or that people won’t like her unless she does lavish things. I wish she would realize that none of those things are necessary.

          I thought during the Kyle conversation that her lips were finally LESS, not more prominent as others said. It looked like her face was fuller too. I think she looks so much better with a fuller face.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        TLM, That’s the best part about having guest blogs and many opinions, I just posted my opinion of the situation in my blog, Had Enough! posted hers yesterday and you’re all welcome to post yours! 🙂

        Jenny recorded an entire song with many verses but as far as I know, the only time we heard the entire song in full was the first time she sang it live on the show a few seasons back, now they just play a small portion of it during the show, and it seems they try to play the portion that goes along with the guests or topics.

        I understand that “people” will call Paul by the wrong last name but I would think that Andy Cohen would get it right since Adrienne is one of his housewives and Paul was appearing on the show.

  2. Melinda says:

    excellent round up!! I love your “little additions” and your take on the show! I agree about Adrienne and her hubby…..he is more enamored than she is…..I wonder if she is just not as demonstrative in her affection……but only time will tell if they “weather” the storms of marriage. Man, Kelly is seriously the most vapid and ridiculous tweeter!

    and CONGRATS to shucking the hobby writer and progressing towards PRO!!! yay!!

    • IMJ says:

      I actually think its really good that hes so in love with her. She seems rooted in reality and I dont think she would be “over the moon” with any man. That might be a positive thing. Look at Camille Grammer.

  3. quincyil says:

    Excellent blog… I love how you give us your insight and manage to tell the story of what took place.

    I like keeping up with the wives and you always seem to have a scoop on that.

    I don’t think I’d every pay to go to an event with one of these women. I really don’t watch the award shows on TV. It’s more fun watching a few shows and sharing here.
    I think it’s the sharing part that I love.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Quincy, your saying something to the Iranian man who dissed his wife in public thinking no one would understand him reminded me of my Iraqi friend and I at a restaurant one time. We would go to Dearborn, Mi. where they have a lot of Arabic restaurants and the food is to die for. They are just mom and pop places…not all fancy schmancy but like I said, the food is tre manufique! So anyway my friend (the one who came here not speaking English at 15 after being forced to marry her older doctor husband and went to highchool, college and law school after having 4 daughters) doesn’t look traditional. She has blond hair (dyed), a nose job and wears designer clothes …she’s a successful lawyer with her own practice (represents for a pittance Arab women who want to get out of an abusive marriage like she did) as a defense attorney. Swanyway, all of a sudden she is SO P O’d! I say “What’s wrong?” She says, “Oh, those women right next to us are raking you and I over the coals and think we don’t know what they’re saying so they aren’t lowering their voices.” I say, “Well, I don’t. Whad we do to offend them?” “We are rich, look good and they are still married to assholes I assume” LOL “I’m going to tell them a thing or two! They are bitching that we are sharing a desert instead of buying two because we’re cheap.” I laugh and say “No, what you should do is let them carry on and when we leave say something in Arabic so they know we understood every nasty thing they said.” “Brilliant!” she says. So when we left she walked up to their table and said “Have a nice day!” in Arabic. At least that’s what she TOLD me she said. Now thinking back, by the look on their faces maybe she said something else. HA We still laugh about that today.

      • quincyil says:

        I was on a trolly with two American teachers of Mexican descent when three French speakers from France were talking about how fat the teachers with me were. After listening, one spoke to them in English and reminded them how similar their languages were and told them what they had said. The French visitors looked shocked and left the trolley at the next stop. I think they were running away.

        Being rude is very bad.

    • cusi77 says:

      Good Morning everyone!

      Great Blog Lynn! Thanks! I just love the funny additions to your comments, they are hilarious! Not to wonder why are you having so much success!

      Quincy wrote:
      “I think it’s the sharing part that I love”

      I totally agree.

      I miss Boston… ((((((( Bostoncito )))))))

    • klmh says:

      Its so much more fun to share, isn’t it?
      My husband and I also listen to audio books and its so much better than reading because you share the emotions and experiences in the books.

      • quincyil says:

        I actually love it when people come up with different explanations.

        Well, I have to go again today for a fundraiser. It’s for the Symphony. Four days of Christmas trees. Today, I am singing Christmas songs on karoke with 3 and 4 year olds. Then I get to learn bookkeeping with my friend the chair of finance. Later, I read stories in an elve costume. I multi task. rofl

  4. Had Enough! says:

    I can honestly say that if it were not for this blog (and Real City Housewife) I wouldn’t watch any of these shows. I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels that way. Bravo should send you a Christmas card with a big fat check.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      That is an amazing compliment and I hope that RealCityHousewife sees it as well, thank you Had Enough! 🙂

    • Kat says:

      It is true for me too, if not for this blog I would only watch RHoNY though I like Atlanta too. I admit to skipping some shows as this blog is far more entertaining than some franchises and I can only stomach a few of them.
      Reading this blog and the comments is must read TV.

  5. klmh says:

    Kim Richards has been dating a fellow by the name of Todd Jason Voisine since 2009. He apparently has been instrumental in Kim’s return to “stardom”. So, the storyline of Kim needing a husband/boyfriend is fake. Another fantasy scenario…

    • cusi77 says:

      Oh! No! &*%@$$ Bravo producers!

      Not I do have something to congratulate Todd…

    • Had Enough! says:

      Calling Olivia! Olivia – we need you to bring us back to earth. Please please come back. We’ve got cheeeeeeesecake and it so amazingly delish and yuuummmmm!

    • Had Enough! says:

      Actually, maybe Todd Jason Voisine is the fantasy storyline. Go ahead. Google him. See if you can find anything except mentions of this guy dating Kim Richards. Try to find a photo of them together. I am finding nothing. The started dating sometime in 2009 – say it was January 1, 2009. So two years, no photos, nothing? Even if it was 12/31/2009 – that is nearly a year – not one photo. I even searched on photos of Kim Richards to see if I could find one with Voisine. Nope.

  6. HD says:

    Girrrrrrrrrrrlllllllllll, Lynn!!! I think you have opened the floodgates with the Housewives!! Oh my goodness!! I just read your article. Do you think you will get any housewife reaction?

    I had no clue Lynn’s daughters were on a website half naked! What is going on?! They have messed up so royally when it comes to parenting and as you said, its a little to late now. Every time I saw them on TV my blood pressure would go up! I WISH I was their mother. Child please! Honey you talk about going off! Please! I remember one time my friends daughter was talking about her and said she was gonna call 911. My friend said, “go ahead but you have to make it to the phone first!”

    Anyways….girl, Lynn, you done said it all! They are gonna be MAD but that is what good professional writing is, it stirs up emotions! WORK IT GIRL!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thanks HD! 🙂 I don’t know if it will get any housewives reaction, I don’t think Lynne Curtain is sober enough to turn her computer on…she has no blog, she’s not on any of the social networks, in fact I think she may be the only housewife who’s not on Twitter and/or Facebook. She could use some sense knocked into her the most.

      Even if the housewives read it, they rarely commentand probably won’t even admit they read this stuff.

    • cusi77 says:

      HD_ I respectfully disagree with your opinion.
      I’ve read the article and IMO it is very objective and constructive criticism should be always welcome.

      • Sha2000 says:

        If you get one of those weirdos here again saying stuff like “jumbla reject” (lol remember same ip different name person? Funny night) here, it mostly likely is a HW.

      • HD says:

        Of course we can agree to disagree, Cusi. That is the beauty of life especially why it comes to writing and reading. As Frederick Langbridge once said, “two men looked through prison bars, one saw mud and the other saw stars.” 🙂 Things will always been seen differently and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

        I do want to say, for clarity, I enjoyed Lynn’s article.

        • quincyil says:

          So. true… we can be us. It never bothers me when someone else disagrees. I love not being joined at the hip.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Lynn, it was an excellent summary of the housewive’s kids, & how tv exposure may have hurt some of them. You really nailed the bad parents, didn’t you – and those bad parents deserved it. How can you put your drug-addicted kid on a reality tv show? So insanely warped, poor Josh. Look at where Laurie’s son is now, and Tamra’s son…how is he doing? The kids that are doing well had strict parents. If that doesn’t teach us something, I don’t know what will. Lesson learned, do not spoil your kids. And nurture them, don’t torture them…teach them well. Spend time with them, give them a good example. It’s the hardest job on earth, being a good (tough but loving!) parent.

  7. cusi77 says:

    Have a Nice day Ladies and Gentleman (Error) Catch with you later this evening!

  8. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Good morning all! About to hit the streets this chilly morning and be productive. First Zumba class followed by waiting in line at Walmarts Site to Store counter to pick up christmas orders. I will then top off the day by cleaning house and folding laundry. I’m sure everyone has an equally exciting day planned 🙂

    • Noelle says:

      You sound so rushed and serious, I’d hate to be in your way!
      You have a day planner or is it all organized in your head?
      If so, I’m jealous of both. 😉

  9. Noelle says:

    Good Morning All!

    Wishing a Happy day to everyone! 😀

  10. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Noelle, you’re funny. Today is a light day as far as errands go. I do actually scheduele things in the calendar on my BB. While I was typing in my last entry, my Zumba class reminder went off. I used to have a Palm Pilot back in the day and I even scheduled all my clients(hair) in it. I love gadgets almost as much as men do ;-).

    • Noelle says:

      Grand..Hope your happy, cause I’m exhausted from reading your post!

      Oh hey, does that count as a work out!?! 😉 xo

  11. Noelle says:

    Not a good day..have to write a letter that I’ve been putting off since June.
    Not a pleasant letter, but can no longer put it off.
    Hmmm..Lets see, how can I say a well deserved “f*** y**!”, nicely without saying it…I’m working it out. Would welcome any espresso/coffee advice….

    • Had Enough! says:

      My advice is to really let it rip. I mean hold nothing back. Then put it in a drawer for a few days. At the end of that time, see if you don’t feel better just for having written it, and ask yourself if you will really feel better if you send it. Most of the time, the answer (for me) is no. I will actually feel worse because no matter how well deserved the eff you was, I don’t want to be the kind of person who does that kind of thing. I’d rather walk away. That speaks volumes to the other person: you aren’t even worth my time and anger. And I speak from experience. I used to really let the assholes have it … and then I felt even worse, because then I also felt bad about myself. It took me a while – ok, it took years – but I finally figured out that there was a pattern here and maybe I should try it a different way. Just writing it down and venting was enough.

      If after a few days, you still feel you need to send it, then by all means…

      • Noelle says:

        don’t ever leave me!! 😀 xo

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Boy, ain’t that the truth, H.E. Learned that silence is very powerful late in my career as a human being. I also write letters in full vent mode, leave them in computer for a while, then edit the letters down to what I mean to say in objective language. What I say then is clear and polite, but honest. Then if it is important to do so for me, I mail them or delete as the case may be. In the case of being misused or ripped off or manipulated, sometimes I need to have a say rather than silence, but doing it well and politely lets the other person’s rudeness shine.

    • TLM says:

      Noelle…It would be easier if I knew more about the situation, but I understand if you want to leave that out.

      Whatever the letter is, I would write everything you feel in a Word doc, no editing, and spend several days with it. If you’ve waited since June already, another week shouldn’t matter. After you’ve read it a few times, you might not feel the need to send it. But if you decide you have to, I would suggest you ask yourself the following questions:

      Do you ever have to deal with this person/entity again? If not, there is probably little risk in putting everything on the table. If it’s a family member or close friend, I would be honest but not so angry as to close the door on the relationship. Let them know at the end that your door is open to them and you hope you can work things out, if that’s how you feel, or if it is necessary to have this person in your life to have peace. For example, cutting all ties to in-laws is probably not possible since it leaves a spouse in the middle.

      Can you live with the situation as-is, or just by journaling and writing to yourself? I have a relative for whom writing a letter sets off an endless back-and-forth, with them making their own complaints that are off-topic, and things quickly spiral out of control. If you’re dealing with that kind of a person, sometimes it’s better to just journal your feelings and know that that is more worth your time than trying to talk to a wall.

      For many years I would hear people suggest writing letters but not sending them, and I thought they were crazy. I had this need to make that other person KNOW I thought they were wrong/unreasonable/uncaring etc., as if my telling them was going to make them say, “You’re completely right, I realize the error of my ways, and I’m sorry.” It almost never worked, and I almost always regretted sending it, even though at the time, I thought I was absolutely compelled to do so. These days, I find more and more that it is enough for me to see my own words in a letter rather than sending it to that other person.

      I write letters all the time for customer service reasons, and usually they get great results. But I’m assuming yours is more personal, and those letters are always more difficult, including the decision to send them. Wishing you luck!

      • Noelle says:

        I sent a letter that I’m not proud of but one that had to to be said and sent.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m proud I sent it but so unhappy and not proud that it had to be sent. Does that make sense?
        Thanks for all you said.
        I want your info on what you said in my BB. 😉

        • TLM says:

          No problem! Good luck with the letter… I hope it works out.

          Didn’t understand what this was: “I want your info on what you said in my BB” — can you explain?

        • Noelle says:

          @TLM,Sorry Love, that even sounds twisted to me, when reading back


      • JazzNightOut says:

        Just read your post after posting mine, GMTA. Thanks for more thoughts on the subject.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Say only what needs to be said. Say what your option is and that you are pursuing it. End nicely with a good luck to the future. Brief is best, positive is good and wait 24 hours before you mail it so you are sure that your message is clear. Know you will feel better after you do this and then move on with your life.

  12. AZ Girl says:

    @TLM I guess I am one of the posters who questioned Taylor’s motives with Kennedy and the dog. I do believe that Kennedy does have a slight allergic reaction to the dog but not as serious to warrant getting rid of Snowball. Kennedy had a small rash on her forearm. Her eyes were clear.
    I do take issue with Taylor over-reaction to Kennedy’s allergies. I think Taylor wanted to paint Russell as the asshole for getting the dog in the first place and now she may be hurting Kennedy by having to give Snowball away. I think Taylor want’s an “out” of this marriage.

    But, I could be wrong. My kids had some severe allergies and they eventually grew out of them. If Kennedy can be treated successfully why get rid of the dog? I think Kennedy needs to have a pet for companionship.

    • klmh says:

      Did you children develop asthma/wheezing? Granted, most of the time acute asthma attacks can be treated with inhalers, but some result in hospitalization or on rare occasion in this day and age, death. I don’t know if her allergy could lead to asthma, but it is quite possible.

      • Sha2000 says:

        They could also try keeping the dog clipped.

      • AZ Girl says:

        I took them to a specialist and had the “prick” test done on both. One had a food allergy (avocado) and the other a seasonal pollen allergy. They did not need prescription medication. Just over the counter stuff was enough.
        I guess because we did not see if Kennedy did get tested do we know positively that the dog is the source. But it is “Reality TV” and who know. Kennedy does have something that she is reacting too. We will see.

        • babykakes says:

          ‘chinese crested’ dogs are the most hypo alergenic, i think.
          poodles come in a close second..has Kennedy ever been around other dogs for any period of time & suffered the same reactions? maybe they should remove ‘snowball’
          from the home for a few days, tell Kennedy ‘whatever’,
          replace it with another dog temporarily & see if ‘Kennedy” has the same symtoms…just a thought!

    • TLM says:

      I wouldn’t fault her for not wanting to give a child drugs just to share the house with a dog. I don’t even like the idea of giving kids drugs for more serious things, and this is something that is entirely avoidable. I predict that Taylor would maybe try to get another dog that doesn’t provoke the allergies, because it did pain her to take something away that her daughter loved. The doc did confirm the allergies, and Taylor said it was the worst in the morning. Plus, she did not have the dog with her at the doctor’s, so it’s possible that’s why she was less symptomatic there.

      I don’t think Taylor was fake crying. I feel sorry for her. I know it sounds silly to say you feel sorry for someone with a lot of money, but I do. I think she has constant feelings of inadequacy and that would be there no matter how much money she had. I think Taylor is caught up in the “nothing is ever enough” Vicki Gunvalson syndrome, but unlike Vicki, she is very passive in her marriage and it sounds like she lets Russell control everything. I have a feeling in upcoming episodes we are going to hear things about Taylor’s upbringing that are very sad. I feel she is somewhat of a broken person. She does work for a living, Bravo just hasn’t shown that yet. I hope they do.

      • Blue Sky says:

        TLM, appreciate your take on things, but bear in mind most of the show is totally pre-planned. They spend hours taping, & re-taping, one scene – so maybe the 1st time Taylor’s tears were real, but after several takes…she was fake crying. The whole storyline of Taylor’s problems with Russell is (in my opinion) being totally exploited by the producers. Just like they eagerly continued taping the big fight in New York City – the producer blogged about it on the Bravo website. He knew it was a golden opportunity, with all his previous experience taping “reality” shows. There is a whiff of real life stuff in the show, then like a souffle, the producers whip it up for all it’s worth, trying to serve us the viewers a tasty show that will reap ratings gold. In truth, they have found some good castmates on RHOBH. I really do like Lisa, so hope she’s not conning us. Camille is the evil character we love to hate, Kim is kooky but sometimes likeable, Kyle & Adrienne are tough but honest, etc.

        It is fascinating to watch how Nene, for example, has evolved on the RHOA. It is also disturbing to watch a marriage fall apart, or Jill Zarin try to wreck Bethenny. I like Bethenny the best of all the housewives. Like Had Enough, I wouldn’t be watching if it weren’t for Lynn & RCH’s blogs…and the discussions we get into on this board.

        Please excuse me for being sarcastic about Kennedy’s dog and Taylor. Taylor has some deep issues, maybe the show will help her resolve them. Russell would be a difficult husband to handle, for anyone…but why did she marry him? Was it for the money, and now she wants romance? Stay tuned, Bravo is loving the viewer’s interest, right?!

      • Blue Sky says:

        TLM, I like what you say. I always am learning from reading this blog, because of all the issues that are discussed, about housewives and other things.

        So many viewpoints, it’s like therapy watching the housewives, and then analyzing their behavior.

  13. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Noelle, I’m game. In journalism you have to answere Who, What, When, Where, and sometimes why. In order to give you input on this cuss out/non cuss out letter, we need the facts of the situation. I write excellent complaint letters so I think I can help you out here.

    • Noelle says:

      A parochial school that screwed me (us)over. I know. Can it get worse…yes, rhetorical!

      It needs to be mailed today. Never mind, I’m sending it and I deserve to.
      I borrowed Phaedra’s Southern bells qualities! Ain’t I nice? 🙂

      • Noelle says:

        Belle……grrr n/m

      • TLM says:

        Ah ok, it’s an entity. For me those are a lot easier than dealing with individuals. Did you ask them to do anything, or just wanted to let them know how you feel? If you had a call to action, I am anxious to know how it all worked out. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

        • Noelle says:

          It’s on going…
          WOW..imagine my surprise that he now wants to have dialouge with me…he avoided for 6 months along with the Church’s business manager.
          I don’t know what to think.

          I am done.

    • Noelle says:

      cancel reply

  14. realminkey says:

    Kellkell’s all over the place. She is so freakin freaky looking. (Open at your own risk)


    • Sha2000 says:

      That’s unfortunate.

    • TLM says:

      Thank God she is holding that rolled-up towel, so her midsection isn’t visible. Aren’t models supposed to have a command of what looks good and bad on them? She seems not to have any idea of what works on her and what doesn’t.

      Several people seemed to think that bikini is leather. You can clearly see that it’s a lycra/spandex fabric that just has a shine on it. I actually wrote Kelly a very sincere letter after her “I am against animal cruelty, but I will wear fur” episode, asking her to please reconsider her position. Since she seemed to have no awareness at all of the process of getting fur for coats, I included a video. Never heard anything back. Hey, it was worth a shot. But that was all before the Scary Island episodes ran. Back then, I thought she was just annoyingly contradictory. Since Scary Island, I have just thought she needs psychiatric help.

  15. Sha2000 says:

    Just in case she doesn’t see it upstream, this ones for TLM ( & 2 more):


  16. Rabble Rouser says:

    I just checked out the Bravo site- and have come to find out that fricking dog that the Vanderpumps can’t seem to put down or leave home during a diner party has it’s own blog? Really?

    Why is Bravo pushing this dog on us? It as annoying and irritating as hole Ben Wiener debacle.

    No one (well at least no one I know) is particularly interested in celebrity pets being used as accessories. The only reason “Grandma Wrinkles” ever got mentioned is because she is so unbelievably ugly and “Ginger” is a booger eating shit machine. The spoof twitter accounts of them were funny because it was done by snarkers like us.

    • TLM says:

      I’ll be honest…when I first saw Lisa on tv saying, “Jiggy, give me a kiss” and then kissing the air, I thought she was the most pretentious woman I’d ever seen. It did turn out she is more down to earth than I predicted, but I cannot really warm up to that dog. I guess I’ve always liked dogs that are 15 lbs or bigger. I don’t like the idea either of women treating dogs as accessories. They aren’t meant to be carried around in handbags all day. They need to walk and run around, in other words, to be a dog! I say leave the dogs at home and play with them when you get home. I am sure they have people to look after the dogs during the day.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The dog looks drugged. Have we ever seen it actually walk? It has to be bald from bad diet, stress (all those clothes) and no exercise.

      • klmh says:

        The male had it too until I neutered him. Its a male pattern baldness that some poms have, but after castration the hair returns, in most instances. Clifford, my dog, lost hair on his body, but kept it on his head, legs and tail. Im glad he’s hairy again.:)

        • Blue Sky says:

          Lol, didn’t know that castration can cure baldness…!

          • klmh says:

            It is bizarre! We attributed it to Cushing’s when he was 5 because his sister had it as well and the studies indicated that was the problem, although there weren’t any other S/S. But after his castration, he started putting hair on his body. When his siter was fixed, her hair came back as well! So I guess maybe its a pom-in tact problem? I don’t know, but my dog is 12 1/2 and is doing well.

  17. Rabble Rouser says:

    Sorry I haven’t been active the last few days but everyone is my house is SICK. There is something going around here and many people are getting strep throat or a flu.

    But is there any news about MichellefromNY and the baby?

    • TLM says:

      Ugh, Rabble, I am so sorry to hear that! Tis the season, I guess. I hope you are well-stocked with soup and tea! I love Airborne dissolving tablets. They have always helped me shorten or avoid colds/flu. Before I took Airborne, I would get constantly sick every winter.

  18. Noelle says:

    Happy Holidays!

  19. Adgirl says:

    Am I the only one here getting tired of being manipulated by how Bravo edits and presents the RH casts to us?

    I am becoming skeptical of these characterizations:

    1. Adrienne dislikes her husband. Paul is a doofus.
    2. Taylor is a sad, emotionally neglected fish faced scarecrow. Russell is a robot.
    3. Camille is a vacuous insufferable blow up doll.
    4. Kim is a scared little bunny.
    5. Lisa and Kyle are perfect and their husbands are too.

  20. OneMoreInBoston says:

    oh my blogmates-I am one sick puppy (one sick Giggy?) today!

    I went to to the doctor for a routine yearly check up and I think I caught the COLD of DEATH from everyone hacking away in the waiting room.

    I haven’t even been watching the HW’s! That’s when you KNOW you are really sick!

    I know this is a VERY controversial subject, (taking a deep breath) but I LOVE that lil doggie that Lisa has!

    I would just kiss it to death, it is just the cutest little thing ever.

    Although I am not quite sure if maybe Lisa hasn’t already kissed it to death?

    And then felt so bad she had to have it stuffed? Something is not quite right…my 12 year old cat is more active than that poor lil doggie and she sleeps 23.75 hrs. a day!

    OK going back to bed with the cats- getting the chills… brrrr…

    • klmh says:

      Hope you’re better soon! Is it the flu? Its been in OK for a few weeks now…

    • TLM says:

      I want to make clear that I do not hate Giggy, nor do I wish him harm. 😉 I just happen to prefer dogs that are larger, since you can really hug them. I would be afraid to even pet Lisa’s dog too hard, he’s so tiny.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Agree TLM; I don’t want to feel as if I might kill my pet just kissing it. OMiB described my worst fear in her post, and we don’t know for sure that Giggy isn’t stuffed.

    • Noelle says:

      I’m sick as a
      dog too!!
      I thought I felt good today, no.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Had what you have weeks ago; it is an uncomfortable COLD, fever and chills, and hangs on and on and on. Sending you extra cat fur for the duration.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Get well soon all you posters with the flu/colds! I’ve had 3 cups of tea & cocoa already today, after working on cleaning up the leaves outside. It’s chilly outside.

      Eat fresh oranges, and if your throat hurts, gargle with warm salt water; you can even brush your teeth & gums with it & it makes you feel so much better. My dentist is impressed with my “super clean” gums & mouth! Ha ha, doesn’t clean up my language though!

    • twoile says:

      Me too I think Giggy is cute, but certainly would like to see it walk…….what flavor is he?

      • Blue Sky says:

        Giggy is a miniature pomeranian? He’s cute, but very immobile. Wonder how old he is? The mini poms I’ve seen were very playful.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Hope you feel better. I would just like to see Lisa’s dog walk on its own. 🙂

      • babykakes says:

        maybe ‘giggy’ is really a fake dog. a prop, not real, or was real &
        now stuffed. he never seems to move either.

    • cusi77 says:

      Get well OMiB! Having lots of liquids and rest is what helped me out 2 or 3 weeks ago I was like you are now.

  21. JazzNightOut says:

    Before I read newest Lynn blog, I had to bring over a post from Had Enough from 6:54am this morning; I just read it, and it deserves a re-read for laugh out loud chuckles:

    “There is a recognized psychological disorder called body dysmorphism. The affected person is excessively concerned about and preoccupied by a perceived defect in his or her physical features. You may read about it in the context of anorexia and bulimia, where the affected person thinks she is fat when in fact she’s skeletal.

    There must be an opposite disorder, one where the person thinks she looks great, when in fact she looks terrible. I’m thinking “KellIdiot Syndrome.” How the hell can she look at these photos and think she looks good?


    Especially since you know these beaches must be littered with 20-somethings who look fantastic.”
    I love it when I laugh at loud in my apt. all alone so my neighbors can hear me 🙂

    • JazzNightOut says:

      out loud

      • Adgirl says:

        My husband will tell you that I have intellectual dysmorphism. I think I’m a lot smarter than I am. Yep.

        • Blue Sky says:

          You really don’t know how dumb you are until you have children! My son delights in telling me how I don’t know anything, I am a total loser/drag, so out of date, out of touch, totally out of fashion and really really old. I’m the worst driver/car parker he’s ever seen. He turns 17 in a few months. Can’t wait to see what his future children say to him. Grandchildren….the best revenge! I would like to know what happened to my darling little boy …oh well, at least he still hugs me & tells me he loves me at the end of the day.

          • AZ Girl says:

            The best bumper sticker I ever saw on a car said
            “Please hire my teenager at an age where he knows everything.” HA!

          • quincyil says:

            He’s trying to grow up. That’s what a high school teacher told me when my senior daughter was so rude to me. The teacher said that they all have to pull away so they can survive leaving for college. She said they were all afraid. Thinking back, I remebered being afraid too. When my dad was pulling out of the dorm parking lot on that first day, I cried. I cried on the phone talking to me mom for the whole first semester.

            My daughter would come back from a class at Brown and send me an email the first semester too. Gradually, she formed a new family with classmates and dormmates so she stopped constantly writing to me and I missed it, but she had to survive there.

            Moms of teens…it gets better… and when the grandchildren are born, you get constant emails and calls. Everything is a circle, my friends.

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          R.O.F.L.M.A.O. ! You are toooo funny!

        • LynnNChicago says:

          LMAO Adgirl, well you’ve got us all fooled too, I think you’re brilliant!

  22. TLM says:

    Two of my favorite time-killing and laugh-inducing sites (as if I needed to kill any more time!):

    You Knit What? I am so sad that this blog was discontinued in 2006, since I spent many a time laughing so hard I cried. Twisted humor about knitting and knitters who take themselves too seriously. http://youknitwhat.blogspot.com/. They left the page up, so in case any of you are inclined, you can look through the archives. Tons of stuff on there.

    Catsinsinks.com. Total mindless fun. Mostly I like the way you can demand, “Show me another cat in a sink!” by clicking the little button as many times as you want. 😉 Cats and animals generally crack me up, so hopefully this site will brighten your day as well.

  23. Noelle says:

    Now I’m More pissed off then ever…

    It seems our do-gooders in my town are mad @ me.

    • TLM says:

      Already? Just from the letter you sent??

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Did you perhaps infringe on their perceived territory? (which of course, is everything, everywhere)

    • Blue Sky says:

      Noelle, do you live in a small town? Or even if it’s a big town…I’ve learned to keep my mouth shut (believe me, it’s not easy as I’m a Sagitarrian that regularly sticks her foot in her mouth). Sometimes when you say nothing, you say so much more. If there is another church, maybe it’s best to change. Behavior speaks so much louder than words, especially when you just walk out the door, and don’t look back. If you can!

      I grew up in a small town, & my mom & brother are still there. They run a small business. My mom, bless her, is going to be 86 this month. She still works, helping my brother with the bookkeeping. There is always something going on in town, & it usually is just hillarious. Many people have changed their religion (at one point one family even started their own new church, but had to fold it when no one else joined!) One big mess was over a minister that had the “family from hell.” One of his daughter’s got pregnant when we were in high school (back in the 70’s mind you) and did not even know who the father was. Flash forward to the 1990’s when some of the flock wanted to finally get this minister out. It caused half the congregation to exit the church, join other churches, etc. Imagine a small town (less than 6,000 people if that) with every church you can think of – even the Lutheran church has two, one for Missouri Synod & one for the kind of Lutheran church.

      My father always used to tell us that we could not say anything bad about anyone in town, ever. He realized how much business we would lose by being opinionated!

      • Adgirl says:

        That is some wise advice.
        My mom made everybody in the PTA mad and my life was miserable.
        Our neighbor’s dog would poop in our yard until my mom sprayed him with green paint. The neighbors kept him inside after that! Did I mention the neighbor was the Chancellor of the University where my father worked?

        Oh, and she got into a life long argument with our next door neighbor too.
        Good times.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          ahhh…good times, good times.

          Luckily (or unluckily?) for me, we moved every year or so. 14 schools is 12 years.

          So I always got to tell people off and then head for the hills.

          My mother took great enjoyment in marching down to our schools and very sweetly calling them all morons when requesting our school records be transferred.

          (when I was sick in 6th grade and the school nurse wouldn’t let me go home, my mother demanded a copy of her license accusing her of lying about her credentials. I think I still have it. No one had ever seen the school nurse cry before.)

          What fun!

          Sometimes, just sometimes, I think life would be just so much better without the people.

          But no, that’s just my antisocial, misanthropic side coming out. It’s just crazy talk! The kind of talk that comes from 104 temperature.

          No not really. But I am hot. But you already knew that.

          Oh my god, I’m totally rambling! OK going back to bed, there’s a Harry Potter marathon on now.

          (Did @klmh ever give us a review of the new Harry Potter movie?)

          • Adgirl says:

            Hah, our moms should cage fight.

            Actually my mom has toned waaay down with old age.
            I don’t think she was hardwired to be a SAH mom. She was bored and frustrated.

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            I’m sorry yer sick but I am enjoying your feverish postings! 😀

          • LynnNChicago says:

            Feel better! If you’re getting the flu, try Thera-flu, that stuff works for me every time! The nighttime stuff. If I feel the flu coming on I take that and sleep for 10 hours and wake up feeling great.

            The new Harry Potter movie is awesome! Probably one of the best they’ve made so far, I took my 10yrold son and his buddy, they loved it too but don’t expect a tidy ending, since its part 1 of the final 7th book, it is, as expected left hanging for the next film. Did you read the books??

        • Blue Sky says:

          LOL! Cracking me up here. Sometimes a situation calls for a tough cookie. The best mayor in my hometown (that I know of) was a woman, & boy was she tough, but fair, and she could stand up to anybody. Lots of things got done during her administration, for the good of the town.

          • quincyil says:

            I don’t think there is a clear path to follow in small towns or big towns. I stay quiet unless I think something is really wrong. Little things…ignore them… big things.. stand up for what’s right…

            I used to fold when criticized. Now, I stand tall and people just don’t bother me.

            If you are correct, Noelle. Does it matter what people are saying?

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              hmmm, I like the way you think @quincy.

              But sometimes it’s hard to be the lonely voice of reason in the wilderness of stupidity.

              But @noelle, your feelings and opinions are valid. Don’t let anyone make you feel otherwise.

              And slightly OT YES I read all of Harry Potter and just loved the books- very well written, I like the author very much.

              • Kat says:

                What gave me pause was reading your feverish post that included the line about life might just be better without the people. Sometimes I feel the same. I’m a Potter fan too (and Tolkein).

                You seem so amicable and ready to fight for the underdog that I was amazed by your candor. Maybe it was your fever talking but I oft share the same thoughts. I’m motivated most by the things that anger me.
                Oh well.

                Feel better!

  24. ArizonaMagpie says:

    It’s probably just me or did anyone else think that Gia’s birthday party that was shown was her 9th birthday not her 7th?

  25. WindyCityWondering says:

    I was alittle bored with the last BH episode. I feel bad for Kennedy and allergies are something not to be ignored. But there are things that can be done to lessen the exposure and still keep the dog.

    • lillybee says:

      If Kennedy is really allergic to that adorable dog, the parents could return it to the breeder and get her a non allergic dog like a poodle. The child really needs the companionship of a dog.

      • JKW says:

        That dog looks non allergic. I don’t think they ever said the breed. It could be grasses or mold that the dog brings in rather than the dog itself. If she is allergic to the dog then she is probably allergic to other things. Allergy testing (scratch test ) would be beneficial. Allergy injections would also help with the dog and other things. It’s a pretty good bet that the dog isn’t the only thing she is allergic to. I am allergic to some type of dog coats. I get a rash on sensitive areas ( forearms, neck, face ) where they touch. You do actually get sensitized to your own dogs. I get much worse reactions to other peoples dogs with short coats. I think taking the dog from her may be worse than some allergy medications.
        And although Russel may have meant well….buying a dog should be something everyone agrees to after discussion. It should not be an impulsive purchase or a surprise….or a way to impress your kid or piss off your wife. It’s tough on the dog to have to re-home them.

        • Adgirl says:

          The producers blog called Snowball “ridiculously cute” and possibly cuter than Giggy.

          Has Snowball started twittering comments on fishface?

        • TrillianAlice says:

          Adrienne got rid of Luna fairly fast. I guess we are in for the long haul with Snowball.

        • Sunny1 says:

          Why don’t they clip the dog and see if that helps?
          It’s an inside dog. The groomers can use a wider tooth blade like a 10 and it won’t shave all the hair off, it’ll be a short coat. I would try that!
          They really need to allergy test their little girl.
          It really could be something that’s on the little dog’s
          coat it picked up from outside (as JKW suggested) dogs like to roll on the grass and in dirt.
          Most doctors would have suggested Taylor have her daughter tested.
          Very dumb of this husband to not have discussed this with his wife! A pet is a family member and it should be a family decision.

  26. Noelle says:

    Hope to check in later.

  27. JazzNightOut says:

    Loved this blog, Lynn! Your asides are wonderful. I hoot out loud every time you slip one in. I think certain topics inspire you more than others, and I love when you are inspired either by righteous anger (the bullying blog was excellent, excellent!) or by the silliness we see on the RH franchise. Quincy is right; it is the sharing of the snark here that makes this blog community so wonderful. I truly wouldn’t watch some shows either if it were not for the humor that begins with you, Lynn, and is met and matched by everyone here. It is just so damn much fun to watch and then come here. Never enjoyed TV so much before. Thanks Lynn and everyone here.

    PS: could you get your blog on bullying published professionally; it was so good and it will never be out of date?

  28. OneMoreInBoston says:

    I love you Lynn!

  29. Wall St Lady says:

    Who wants to b responsible for making & hiding Buffywood’s cake for tomorrow ?
    1st one to hit the board makes & hides the cake. 🙂

  30. TEB says:

    Great Blog Lynn!

  31. Wall St Lady says:

    Is it a joint effort ?

  32. AZ Girl says:

    Any word from MichelleinNY and the baby???

    • cusi77 says:

      AZ Girl_ I am not sure if it was yesterday or the day before she came to say she was going to deliver the baby that very same day. She came back later to tell it was false alarm… the baby is not ready yet to leave his mom’s tummy.

    • Adgirl says:

      I think it was a false alarm.

    • cusi77 says:

      OMG! Az Girl asked for Michelle’s Baby at the same time the Baby Boy was born!

  33. Wall St Lady says:

    U know I am always available to kick a$$ verbally for u. I have made many a man cry in shame. If I am truly successful reconciliation follows which turns a mess into a blessing.

  34. Zipit Zarin says:

    Are people allergic to animals after they are stuffed? Maybe Snowball could be stuffed like Giggy and still give comfort to Kennedy. (ducking)

  35. Jennifer Neehan says:

    about your comment on Andy’s frequent reference on his being Jewish and Adrienne’s not being Jewish, did you ever think he was uncomfortable because it was a Jewish Holiday and Adrienne is of Lebonese descent (mostlikely a Muslim) married to a man of Arabic descent with a Muslim surname – Nassif? Also, Adrienne owns a TV Reality Show Production company – and may be a partner in producing the RHW reality shows. So I would think there is some tension.
    Sorry if I am a party pooper.

    • quincyil says:

      Adrience wears a cross occasionally. Muslims never wear crosses, Adrienne is Christian. I know several Chrisitans from the Middle East. There are ancient sects that go back to the time of Jesus there.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Madonna made wearing a cross a fashion statement. I don’t think it means anything.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        My friends Grandfather is a Catholic from Lebanon.

        Also, I am not if they were Muslim how devote they would be given they own the Palms casino in Vegas; NV famous for drinking, gambling and prostitution.

        • quincyil says:

          I have talked to Saudi Princes in elevators in the old Desert Inn (before renovation.) I think there are fake Muslims, fake Christians, and fake every religion.

          I think the Maloofs are Christians.

        • twoile says:

          There is a substantial population of Lebanese decent in MA who ID themselves as Eastern Right Catholic….IE do not follow Roman tradition but their own. Priests can marry ….. I’ve been fortunate to be invited to dine……….pure heavenly fabulous food.

      • Blue Sky says:

        Few people know that Christianity (via Thomas the Apostle,one of Jesus’ disciples) went to India and established Christianity there, near present day Chennai (formerly known as Madras) around 52 A.D. St. Thomas died in India and was buried there; later his relics were taken to Italy, to Ortona. There were Jews in India, and so this was why St. Thomas went there. Syrians lived in India at that time; this could be how Christianity spread to Syria. Many thousands of people became Christian because of St. Thomas. As a person of Swiss German/Irish descent, it is humbling to note that Christianity was well established in India, before my ancestors ever heard the Gospel of Christ.


        I humbly do believe that there are many ways to God, and heaven. I’ve met Hindus/Muslims/Jews/native Americans that are truly honorable people and I am sure will be accepted into heaven, because of their good works here on Earth.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I don’t think there is tension about it. I think Andy was just noticing the irony and being a goof.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Hi Jennifer,
      I don’t think there was tension. My dad & stepmom & stepsisters are Jewish & so are some our friends & neighbors. My husband is Muslim & I was raised Catholic but am Agnostic. We celebrate a full blown Christmas with all the trimmings in my home & I just brought over my neighbor a Hanukkah gift yesterday. My point is, people can be of different faiths & cultures & get along fine. Especially if you are from NY (like Andy & myself), you are fortunate enough to be exposed to different cultures. BTW, Lebonese people I have found to be super cultured, refined & nice. If her production co. was related to his business wise, all the more reason to get along, right? Sorry, my too cents & besides I find Andy to seem genuine & likable; I don’t think there was tension at all.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Right Quincy.

        My husband is Muslim from Cairo & one of his best friends is a Coptic from Cario as well.

        • quincyil says:

          I know a female pediatrician who is Coptic Christian. I really love talking to her about her religion. There were some tiny ancient sects protected by Saddam Hussein before we took him out. Now, they are being persecuted by the Shia who we helped take over Iraq. Those same Shia are friends with Iran whose mullahs persecutine Bahai, Christians Jews and Sunni Muslims. See what happens when you meddle?

          • ShyAsrai says:

            heaven forbid! i wonder if all those people whose corpses were uncovered in Saddam’s mass graves had wished for ‘meddlers’?

            “Mr Kehoe investigated mass graves in the Balkans for five years but those burials mainly involved men of fighting age and the Iraqi finds were quite different, he said.

            “I’ve been doing grave sites for a long time, but I’ve never seen anything like this, women and children executed for no apparent reason,” he said.”



            • Blue Sky says:

              Saddam Hussein was a monster. I wish he & his sons could have been taken out using a drone. So many civilians have died over there since the war started (how many years has it been? Ten?) and so many soldiers on our side have died. War is hell.
              Now Afghanistan…will it ever end? It costs $1 million per US soldier per year in Afghanistan. How much do schools cost – Greg Mortensen (wrote the book “Three Cups of Tea” about how he has built schools in poor areas of Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.) builds them for around $30,000 with the help & support of the locals. Even the Taliban likes him.

    • meadowwood says:

      Wow. Before you turn this into something it isn’t… Adrienne and Paul are is Christian not Muslim. Andy was simply making a joke since it was Chanukah.
      BTW, there are Arab Jews with the surnames of Nassif and Maloof as well.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      You’re not a party pooper, but I didn’t sense any tension. I was just curious as to why Cohen feels the need to mention it so often. He could say happy holidays and move on but he seemed to want to point out that he had two non-jewish guests 5-6 times. What was the point? I mean who cares? Not a big deal, just made me wonder…

      • Adgirl says:

        You are right Lynn. My dad was Jewish and my mother an atheist so I notice when people talk about being Jewish.

        Andy talks about it ALOT. I guess he’s “out and proud” flying his Jew Flag.

      • TLM says:

        I think some of his humor about Judaism is funny primarily to other Jewish people. I have often thought his “Good for the Jews or Bad for the Jews” game must sound strange to non-Jews.

        The only analogy I can draw to Andy’s show would be if there were a tv Christmas special on with all Jewish people and no Christians — same kind of irony. I know WWHL was not a Chanukah show per se, but it was the show he did the week of Chanukah.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          I actually thought his “good for the Jews/bad for the Jews” game was funny at times, it wasn’t strange at all. I was a bit concerned with some of Gloria’s responses but …well, I won’t go there. From a woman who tells women what to wear on Christmas…now that was a bit strange. Andy also did good/bad for the gays and that wasn’t strange either, it was pretty funny actually. Those games were better than the more recent once which were just stupid, but that’s not saying much. 🙂

          • Sha2000 says:

            “Good for the Jews or Bad for the Jews” game…I like it. Being a native New Yorker I think it’s more regional humor. In NY you don’t have to be Jewish to eat the foods, know some expressions (remember we discussed the expression “marry a nice Jewish boy” here before), know some Yiddish & get the humor ; )

            • quincyil says:

              I think Lisa’s son, the nephew of Jill Zarin, got into a twitter fight with Andy over that game when Gloria was asked something about porn. Jill Zarin’s family did not like that game.

            • Had Enough! says:

              Sha2000 – you read my mind. It is a New York thing. That’s supposedly long been a problem with a lot of TV content – it plays well on the coasts and not so much in the middle. When Will and Grace first aired, that was the criticism – that it was intended only for people on the coasts who would “get it.” I think that is Bravo to a tee – it is definitely culturally skewed to NY/LA.

          • amy says:

            I’m a Jew. I couldn’t wait for Andy to post a picture of Jill Zarin so everyone at home could scream “Bad for the Jews” at their TVs. Each time I hear Shill talk about her being Jewish I cringe with shame. Ick.

            • quincyil says:

              I have the same feeling with some so called Christians. I am not very religious, but when Bill Maher made fun of the Amish, I was upset. They are pacifists and never bother anyone. Why bother people who just keep to themselves?

              My husband treats them when they are sick and I happened to be walking through his waiting room and stopped to chat. I told them about my mare who had foundered and that I couldn’t figure out what happened. They came over with special horse shoes that they made for my horse and walked the ground with me. They told me that she might have been eating black walnuts. After that I kept her off of pastures when the black walnutes were falling. I think they were right. The traveled in a wagon 30 miles to bring the equipment to help my horse and would not take money for helping me. See…good people.

    • TLM says:

      I don’t think he was uncomfortable in the least. If he was, it would make sense for him NOT to mention it. He was just joking. As someone else pointed out, there are Jews in Syria and Lebanon and it is possible for them to have Arabic-sounding names. I actually thought the Nassifs were Jewish until she said they weren’t.

    • cusi77 says:

      They are Catholics. For sure.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Nassif sounds more Persian too me; what do you think Quincy our resident Persian/Iranian cultural expert? 🙂 In any case, the dad who is now deceased was born in Vegas in 1923 (of Lebanese decent as some have pointed out)…At this point in time the Maloof’s are an American family with an American success story; I doubt a homosexual Jewish New Yorker was anything new or exotic to a girl from Vegas, maybe the perceive discomfort was shyness?


        • quincyil says:

          They look Arab with European mix to me. I think they are Lebanese Christians. Mohammed Hadid is a Palestinian. I knew he had an Arab name from the first moment I found him on google.

          There are a few Persian with a European look, but it’s not that common. The Northern Afghans sometimes have light skin and blue eyes and that is the influence of centuries of Russians taking their victims.

          I think the Lebanese have a lot of European genes. The Turks do too. The farther east you go, the darker the hair and bigger the nose. Not in Tehran, those plastic surgeons work day and night on the males and females to make them look more European, but drive to the countryside and take a glance.

          Pakisatis and Iranians look different. Pakistani look like Indians and they should since in 1948, the British told the Muslim Indians to head north when India was going to be in nonstop civil war over religion.

          I find all of this fascinating. My kids have the blood of Genghis Khan from the Mongol Invasions of Persia and the Vikings from their English ancestors on the east coast of Britian. No wonder I they are such strong minded people.

          • meadowwood says:

            Nassif, Maloof and Habib are all common names in the Arab countries of the middle east not in Iran. I am of Persian, Arab and European ancestry and have never heard of a Persian name of Maloof or Nassif. but know some who are Moroccan, Lebanese, Jordanian, Palestinian and Syrian.

            Adrienne Maloof has stated in her interviews that they are Christians but she didn’t state what form of Christianity. The two main denominations in Lebanon are Maronite and Greek Orthodox so she is probably one of the those unless the family changed when they came to this country.

            No one but Christians ever wear crosses and she has worn them on the show several times including to her uncles funeral. If her uncle were Muslim or Jewish he would have been buried within 24 hours of his death. In this case, he was not.

          • Sha2000 says:

            “Pakisatis and Iranians look different.”

            Completely different! I agree!

            & Lebanese may have a blond or two. I meant the name sounded Persian to my ears. Nassif sounds like Nasser.

            • Sha2000 says:

              @ meadowwood

              My kids are an American (aka Euro decent me) Egyptian (my husband) mix…a beautiful combo if I say so myself., you must be lovely too.

  36. Sha2000 says:

    My uncle has a habit of sending me chain mail emails & just plain lame cutsie emails; tonight I got this it’s an oldie but it made me laugh so I thought I’d share it:

    The teacher gave the class a bowl full of lifesavers and asked the children to identify the flavors by their color:

    And they did
    Orange ……………Orange

    Finally the teacher gave them all HONEY lifesavers. None of the children could identify the taste.

    The teacher said, ‘I will give you all a clue. It’s what your Mother may sometimes call your father.’

    One little girl looked up in horror, spit her lifesaver out and yelled, ‘Oh my God! They’re assholes!

  37. amy says:

    Camille is unwatchable. I don’t love to hate her or anyone. The rest of this episode was a nice escape just like BGM.

  38. MichellefromNY says:

    Hey all! Just wanted to let you know that three hours ago, at 6:18 pm i gave birth to a beautiful healthy boy! The baby is 7.9 pounds and 19 inches long. He is sooo cute! Had a miserable labor because it was a 48 hour long labor. But am so happy its over!

    Was so nice to read this blog lynn once i was settled into the postpartum unit! Best baby gift ever lol

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      WOOOOO HOOOO! Our first baby! Congrats Michelle!!!!! I’m uploading cyber booties I cyber knitted!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      CONGRATULATIONS!!! I’m so happy for you, baby boys are such a great gift for mommy, they’re your guy forever! No matter how many women are in their lives, mom is always 1st love in their hearts!

      Bless you Michelle and your new baby boy!! :)xoxoxo Did you name him yet??? We’re going to need photos as soon as possible, he’s got dozens of aunts here!!!

      • MichellefromNY says:

        Thanx lynn! No we didnt name him yet cuz we name at the bris— aka the jewish ritual circumcision but ill be sure to update u guys when we name him!

        Thank u all for the congratulations! My hubby and i appreciate the cyber love immensely. My husband cant get over how i updated u guys before posting to my facebook status. But im a little obsessed with the lynnfam!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Oh wow- I just learned something new. I didn’t know that in the Jewish culture a baby boy wasn’t named until the bris.

          Has it been decided thou- and the bris is just where it is formally announced?

          What about girls? I obviously know they don’t have a bris but do they have naming ceremony?

          • MichellefromNY says:

            Yeah girls have a naming ceremony but its not done with as much pomp and circumstance as the boys have it. The father just goes to synagogue to anounce the birth of the baby, says a blessing, and then names the baby girl.

            Were still thinking about the name cuz we have a few days but we shall see

        • American Idiot says:

          Congratulations Michelle, on the birth of your baby boy. So happy for you. Enjoy these moments, they go by so fast.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Michelle, congratulations, Mommy Michelle. So glad for you. I’ll send a cyber rattle and a cyber binkie.

    • TLM says:

      Posting to the blog within 3 hours of giving birth?? Not even Bethenny was that quick!! Congratulations…I am impressed on all fronts!! 🙂

      • Adgirl says:

        @ MichellefromNY 48 hours of labor? Wow. You are the woman!
        Glad you posted before Jill Zarin had a chance to make your announcement on twitter.

        I’m so happy for you and your family. Boys are really fun. Don’t forget the penis lotion!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Congratulations Michelle! A beautiful baby, a blessing, just in time for the holidays.

    • lillybee says:

      Congratulations and best wishes.

    • cusi77 says:

      We have a new Baby boy! God Bless you two! (((( cyber hugs new Mom ))))

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Congratulations! Now the fun starts!!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      YES!!!!!I am so happy for you all. If you are comfortable with it, please add his picture to the gallery so we can see him 🙂

      PS what is his name?

    • quincyil says:

      Michele, I have tears of joy in my eyes. I am so happy for your family. Joy, joy. a child is born. Thank you for being our friend and sharing this joy with us. We all wish we could hold your son. Gosh, this made my day, Thank you so much Michelle. Kiss the baby for me.

    • Had Enough! says:


    • Blue Sky says:

      Congratulations Michelle! What a blessing, a healthy child and you are a true wonder woman, after 48 hours of pain, now resting comfortably & posting here! Sending you warm wishes & enjoy your bundle of joy, a son & now a family is born too.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Hey Congratulations Michelle! Glad you and the baby are healthy. What a beautiful holiday gift from god.

    • klmh says:


    • Kansas Girl says:

      Congratulations! Since ZZ already has the booties covered, I’ll add a cyber-knitted baby blanket. I hope you like deep blue!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


      What a wonderful early xmas present from God! So happy the baby is healthy

      What are you naming him?

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        So sorry Michelle! I’m giving you xmas blessings and you don’t celebrate xmas!

        I’m so happy for your new bundle of joy, Mazel Tov, Mazel Tov, and may every blessing from every religion reign down on his precious little baby head!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Congrats, Michelle! 😀

    • twoile says:

      Wonderful babe..gr8 Mom……& online in 3hrs truly terrific…..now you can relax a bit, again congratulations….& Happy Birthday ((((((((Baby))))))))).

    • psol says:

      Congratulations on your new bundle of joy!

      May God bless you and your entire family!

  39. Lolo says:

    So, does Kim in BH have a boyfriend? It is odd and confusing?

    • quincyil says:

      It’s also confusing that Kim tried to say she was married three times and changed it to twice. In the last show Lisa eating dessert with Martin and her husband said that Kim was married three times. You’d think Lisa would know it was twice. It seems odd to me.

      • vilzvet says:

        So she WASN’T married to the Davis guy? The one with tons of oil money? I believe that is the father of her son. Or did I get that wrong. Maybe she wasn’t married to the youngest daughter’s father, Kimberly, the child we saw at lunch with her with the dark hair…

        • T-REX says:

          She was not married to her youngest child’s “babydaddy”, although they were together for a few years, I think that’s the confusion.

  40. Wall St Lady says:

    U da Lady !
    I am posting from the powder room while at a conference.
    SoOooooo Happy for u Baby Mama.
    God Bless u & ur growing family !

    • cusi77 says:

      WSL_ You are so funny! OMG! I almost choke!

      • Adgirl says:

        WSL first it was potty posting over the holiday and now potty posting at a conference. You crack me up.

        • cusi77 says:

          Adgirl_ Did you see AZ Girl was asking for Michelle’s baby at the same hour the baby was born?

          • Adgirl says:

            cusi, AZ must be psychic! Should we have her read us tarot cards?? That’s seriously gifted.

          • AZ Girl says:

            I can’t believe the timing. I just finished hanging the outside Christmas lights yesterday and had a minute to get on the board and catch up. Out late last night for Shakespear’s 12th Night and got on this a.m. to see Michelle’s good news. Happy Joy!

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  42. cusi77 says:

    I found this about Adrienne’s uncle:

    Monday, April 19, 2010

    Businessman Was Part of N.M.’s Influential Maloof Family

    By Mark Smith
    Journal Staff Writer
    Longtime New Mexico businessman Pat Gavin, 81, died on Wednesday of natural causes at his Las Cruces home.
    Gavin was the brother of Colleen Maloof, the matriarch of one of the state’s most influential families.
    He was vice president of sales of the Joe G. Maloof Companies, running the state’s southern division out of Las Cruces.
    Gavin became a key member of the Maloof enterprise when brother-in-law George Maloof Sr. died of a heart-attack in 1980. Gavin and his wife, Valecia, and their three children moved to Albuquerque to help run the company.
    “When dad died, Uncle Pat really came to the rescue,” says Joe Maloof, who became president of the Maloof Companies at the age of 25 in 1980. “There wasn’t a day that I didn’t ask him for advice. He was a great businessman and just had a wonderful way of looking at life.
    “He moved his entire family to Albuquerque to help us through a really difficult time. And you never saw the guy without a smile, you really didn’t.”
    The Maloof family, which also includes Gavin Maloof, George Maloof Jr., Phil Maloof, and Adrienne Maloof, owns the NBA’s Sacramento Kings and the Palms Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Nev.
    Earlier this year, the family sold the Maloof Companies after more than 70 years.
    “Uncle Pat taught us so much,” says Gavin Maloof, who was named after the Gavin side of the family. “He was a huge influence in our lives. But the thing I’ll miss most is that laugh. He just had a great laugh and always made everyone around him feel better.”
    Gavin is survived by his wife of nearly 50 years, Valecia, and children Pat, Billy and Michelle; sisters Colleen Maloof and Ada Pieroni; and grandchildren Courtney, Gage and Pat III.
    Pat Gavin Jr. is a golf professional who runs the PGM program at New Mexico State. He is a multiple winner of the Sun Country PGA Section’s Horton Smith Award, indicative of the person who has given the most toward the education of game of golf each year in the New Mexico/El Paso section.
    “My dad was passionate about golf and sports,” said Pat Jr. “He got me started in golf and was a great mentor for me, and for a lot of people. He was also my best friend.”
    Pat said there will be a service at St. Paul’s Church in Los Angeles on Tuesday with a reception to follow. There will be a private service in Las Cruces this week.

    Read more: ABQJOURNAL OBITS/PROFILES: Businessman Was Part of N.M.’s Influential Maloof Family http://www.abqjournal.com/obits/profiles/19916160170obitsprofiles04-19-10.htm#ixzz17DeQzIrv
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    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Good find, St. Paul’s suggestive of Adrianne’s religion.

      Also, another reason I didn’t think they might be Jewish or Muslim is because they named one of their sons Christian, I don’t think I’ve heard of a religious non- Christians giving their son that name.

    • Adgirl says:

      Great find. Was that the liquor distributor biz?

      • quincyil says:

        Senator McCain’s wife, Cindy, inherited a Busch beer distributorship in Arizona and was very rich. It seems selling alcohol can starty dynasties. Just ask the Kennedy’s of Boston.

        • Had Enough! says:

          I’ll drink to that!

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          well, alcohol was profitable for the Kennedy’s while it was illegal.
          Bootlegging led to Mafia connections which got our sainted JFK elected in the first place.
          The Mafia is what’s profitable- just ask the Manzos. Oh, except they won’t tell you.
          To busy trying to be as respected as a bootlegger marrying the mayor’s daughter.
          just sayin

  43. quincyil says:

    So… at a luncheon that was part of the fundraising extravaganza being waged in my city this week, I listened to a discussion of the top women of the group that did the battle planning. They spoke of vebal attacks that happened in planning stages, the generals in charge of public relations who failed to show up on the battle field, and the opportunities missed by the incompetence of some of the footsoldiers. I kept thinking Real Housewives of Bravo material. I was the guest of the General of Finance and was so impressed that my friend of over 33 years was a leader and was able to withstand the months of assault from differing factions with a twinkle in her eye. She had the goal in mind.

    The women who created this are geniuses. They invite every dance troup, Suzuki class, school music group, senior citizen dance group, and music group to perform. That means grandparents, aunts and uncles, parents, siblings, friends and distant cousins will come even if it is cold to watch the performance. They buy tickets and cookies for one dollar a piece. They buy trees that businesses pay for and artists create and donate. There are jazz nights, luncheons, galas, breakfasts with Santa, treasure hunts, horse carriage rides… so many activities.

    New people come to our town with ideas like a wine pull (came from California) where women donate beautifully wrapped bottles of wine and people buy tickets for ten dollars to pull a bottle for the surprise wine. Pure genius, pure profit.

    Last night, I had to go to an Art opening where I had a painting picked by a judge to be shown. 140 pieces of art chosen from almost 400. People in this town are incredible.

    So… Bravo producers ..if you are listening. I think Quincy, IL, can successfully support your growning real housewives series. Contact Lynn for my information. We even have mansions on Maine (spelling from state of Maine, but it is Main, the founding fathers of the town had a sense of humor.) I swimming pools, but I’m not sure that my Iranian husband taking his shirt off and walking down the starts is going to have the impact of Mauircio, but he does have the house phone there for critically ill patients and he will talk about urine and constipation on camera because he does it on the phone in restaurants much to my horror.

    I will ride horses, but I will jump logs in a forest and my gelding, Cash, won’t miss and let me fall. We can film in my friend’s restaurant and another friend owns Wendy’s so I’m sure we can film there too.

    Every holiday, there are parades just like the Music man.

    So… we want to officially be on the list of Bravo ….

    We think we can make some money …. We know more than Jill Zarin when it comes time to raise money for charity and no one ever takes a dime for themselves.

    • Had Enough! says:

      I’ll move to Quincy, Illinois if I can be a HoWife!

      • Adgirl says:

        I’M PACKING! How do I get there? Wagon train? OMG I’m so excited. Quincy your town sounds awesome and the people are top notch! I love urine and constipation stories. And square Wendy’s hamburgers – love them!
        I need to buy my California cat a warm coat, maybe one of those puffy ones with a furry hood? What do your pets wear?
        And OnemoreinBoston has to come too because I’m right in the middle of my laser and chem peel treatments. I will let Bravo film them!
        I just need to know if there is a bar in your town.

      • quincyil says:

        I did not know this. I know a lot of Indians that go to Christians schools over there to learn English well, but I didn’t know the early Church went that far East. Thanks for the information.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Quincy, this sounds so fun! Those are the kinds of things that make people want to live in a town! I’d love to know more about this fundraising project. Is there a website about it? Can you give more details about how you organized it? (Sounds like a battle!) I’m the volunteer director of a small town museum and fundraising is always a challenge. Instead of a common focus, it seems like everyone is heading off in their own direction. A big coordinated project like this would be a great idea. I’d love to know more! (If you don’t want to post details here, please get my email from Lynn.)

      • quincyil says:

        This operation is pure genius, but Quincy can’t take all of the credit because they latch on the every good idea that they heard.

        You buy Christmas trees and sell them to local business for a good price, then you get other businesses to decorate the trees *some hire artists and some have really talented employees,” Then you display all of the beautiful trees around a giant room and offer them for silent auction. There is a ridiculously hig price for an instant sale and people pay it. There was about 20 huge gingerbread houses that you vote for for a dollar and can buy by silent auction. There were 30 some table top trees all decorated and lit. There is a holiday market with crafts for sale, children’s village with dollar tickets so kids can make ornaments. A cookie house selling cookies, a house for hotdogs and such, a house for beverages. There were so many raffles for jewelry, a huge flat screen tv, packages from the tenis club, exercise packages, weekends at hotels, new year’s parties… all donated.

        There are breakasts with Santa and a night of Jazz with 18 muscians playing for hours. They have the tv raffle right after the middle school has it’s get together and the parents come in droves to the Symphony of trees to get a chance at that TV set.

        Tonight, the really aggressive silent auction buyers came and were running around bidding until the last minute. A lawyer and his TV anchor stole my little tree because I to count money, but I made their lives miserable by driving up the price. LOL

        The trick is to get people in the door. The way they do that is making it kid centric. You bring in a kid to sing or dance and you get families. You off a big tv set at the right time and you get dads driving across town to buy their raffle tickets.

        I should tell you about another fundraising idea. Hyvee lets you buy gift cards and they will donate 5 dollars on a hundred dollar gift cart for your church, charity and school. The middle school mom got the word out so they buy gift cards and then shop for their own groceries. Since Sept, they received 88,000 and had to form a new organization to handle all of the money because PTAs aren’t allowed to make that much.

        Quincy was on Forbes list of best places to live in America recently. There is something going almost every weekend.
        It’s really Manhattan in Western IL except everyone goes to bed at 9PM.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          Thanks, Quincy! This really sounds fun and great ideas. The small town has a new mayor and city administrator who are movers and shakers, so I’ll share these ideas with them. They’re trying to revitalize the downtown (like how many other towns!) and want to have more activity so people don’t always turn to nearby larger towns for everything. Right now they’re gradually moving toward buying a large 1870 former store to save it from being turned into apartments, and they plan to allow us to put the museum in it. If they can pull that off, I hope we can turn it into an activity center and these ideas will fit right in. So I thank you!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


      That’s just about it.

      I’m moving.

      yooo hooo! @quincy! coming atcha!

  44. TLM says:

    Anyone been unfriended on Facebook and didn’t have a clue why? Anxious to hear stories and perspectives on this.

    • quincyil says:

      No, I only joined my children’s pages and relatives. Did one of the Bravo stars unfriend you?

      • TLM says:

        No, I was referring to personal friends unfriending other friends, not celebrities.

        • Blue Sky says:

          I’ve gotten to the point where I’d like to unfriend some people on Facebook, but haven’t because I don’t want to make someone feel bad! I rarely go on Facebook, it’s too confusing with all those posts on my “wall.” Maybe you got unfriended because that person has too many friends…regardless now you know they don’t consider you a close friend. That’s good to know!

          My husband has a huge family, so I get regular friend requests…so my excuse now is that I just don’t have time for Facebook! It’s so true, due to the Lynfam obsession that I have discussing hw’s & their bullshit is so much more productive lol.

        • vilzvet says:

          Yeah, I did that once TO my former best friend. She had basically cut me out of her life after moving to the most desirable part of town. I thought, “Why am I torturing myself reading her wall of chitchat with other women, when she doesn’t even call me anymore?” So there you go, and now I’m much happier. I am still friends with her younger sister, who is a doll and does not act that way. Have no idea if she even realizes I’m not in her friends list anymore.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I was, or thought I was by 2 different people. Turns out in both cases they took a long break from Facebook and made themselves visible to no one. I figured it out when suddenly after a year or so I began to see posts from them again.

    • klmh says:

      I unfriended someone who wanted more numbers on her Facebook page. She kept sending these heart things and I had never met her although I know her daughter. So, I unfriended her because of all the crap she put on it. But I read that you can unfriend and they aren’t notified, they just don’t receive anything from you. How could you tell other than not receive any information from them???

      • Sha2000 says:

        I have been unfriended on Facebook by a friend & neighbor. Last Christmas my daughter 11 & her friend came home from the bus stop & said they saw something “disgusting on the friends phone” & a third girl said it’s called porno. They were looking for music. The friend, (also 11 & phone owner) said her brother 14 did it & his mom was crying to me the day before that her son has been doing just that, on his phone & computer & she took them away from him but that he was out of control. I sent the girl home & told her to speak to her mom. I had out of town guest literally just walk through my door from the airport so I couldn’t call just then. Well to make a long story short, I never heard from this “friend”. I gave her daughter a Christmas gift & the ones she said to have bought for my kids never were given along with never hearing a word from her; I’m sorry, he’s punished, Merry Christmas, nothing she avoided us like the plague. Fast forward two weeks (she lives three doors down mind you) she calls I bring it up & she defends him & tells me “her son is normal to do this” I say “yes but it is not about that it’s about what my daughter was exposed too at 11 & how about at least casually saying “sorry, we’ve talked to him & it won’t happen again”…big argument ensues. Next day her husband calls & says he now feels I’m right & he brings the kid over to apologize…with out his mother my so called friend who cried to me several times about this boy. I was more offended that she swept it under the rug than a 14 yr old not knowing what not to do. Never heard a word from her, in January she defriended me. I was so tempted to post to my wall “good riddance” but didn’t. Other neighbors passed on stories to me too, mine was the worst. Sadly a few weeks back I was told by another neighbor that he was sent to boarding school. The kid is not bad but apparently his parents cannot handle him.

        Lol, you asked TLM but what do you think?

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          good riddance to bad trash!

        • klmh says:

          I think you did exactly what you needed to do and a boarding school for this child will be better than no parental control at his home, don’t you think?

          • Sha2000 says:

            Thank you too klmh. This happened a year ago on the 19th & I still feel bad. Besides my losing a friend, the day after it happened my daughter innocently asked her friend on the bus to school if her brother got in trouble, the girl snapped back to my daughter “shut up you bitch”. I told her to ignore & just get along, & as I said I gave her her Christmas present; she visited on an off & slowly drifted away & my daughter lost her best friend for no reason of their own making. The third girl down the street mom still doesn’t know (she never got a call either) & I don’t know her mom at all, so I let it be because back then I was waiting for my “friend” to handle the situation her son started.
            Anyway, yes it’s better he’s getting help. When his mom would cry to me about him & say she’s tried everything, I ‘d suggest they ground him from football (his favorite thing) & she’d say no my husband won’t allow it the team needs him (lol at 14? Please!) …no wonder he was out of control he knew football would always be allowed, I just think it’s sad that they’d rather send him away then ground him from football. He was gone for Thanksgiving but I hope he is allowed home for Christmas; it seems to me now he is only a hormonal boy with unskilled parents. Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the feedback! I thought okay she’s (the mom ex-friend) obviously was in a rough time & was in denial but I stood up & spoke for my daughter & explained to her why it was all wrong from the son’s actions to the moms in-action & that she should be respect too, that’s whats important to me, standing up for my daughter.

        • Blue Sky says:

          Sha2000, I would not let my daughter around this boy – not in the future when he’s older especially. Very strange that the parents are just sending their problem away, that doesn’t help the boy at all. Maybe at boarding school he might get worse, as now he can look at porn anytime if he has access, and he will find a way. I don’t let my son have the computer in his room, as at 14 he was getting very curious, as “boys will be boys.” But we drew the line and held firm. When he bought some posters that had girls in skimpy outfits…they were not allowed ( I threw them out!). I talk to him about “good girls vs. bad girls” so that he knows there is a difference. Some of the girls are really unbelievable, what they post on facebook, etc. Kids need values & morals to uphold, in my opinion. If the parents don’t care or don’t teach them, where will they learn? So you are way better off without this trashy family!

          • quincyil says:

            He should not have put that on his sister’s phone, but I think boys exploring their sexuality in private at that age is probably normal. I know both of my sons have had magazines because I saw them while cleaning. They hid them, but mom’s are the ones who flip mattresses and vacuum under beds.

            The neighbor is an inexperienced mother. The dad was great. I’d let her off the hook because everyone makes mistakes. The dad and mom are a couple and what he did seems to be the appropriate thing.

            I think you did the best thing too.

            Parents are here to guide. The boy is probably going to grow up and be like his dad so I’d wait and see on this. I had three brothers and two sons so I think I have a little perspective on this.

            • Sha2000 says:

              Thanks each of you for your take.

              @ Blue, she never did hang around him but she was friends with his sister, unfortunately the friendship fell apart after this.

              @ Quincy, yes it is normal I was just pissed that my daughter happened to be looking over her friends shoulder when she came across it, they were huddled together the three girls looking for music; I’ve since banned her from looking at anyone’s phone/Ipod & I hope she’s learned! Unfortunately she dumped me as a friend (no chance to let her off the hook) because she could obviously not be adult enough to simply say “hey sorry”, her embarrassment got the best of her I guess. Yes, I hope he grows up like his dad, but I actually think it will be their youngest son who is a sweetheart.

              Thank you all for the feedback!!!!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I have unfriended people. If their posts annoy me – I unfriend them. Could be for politics or bragging, or whatever reason. I just don’t want them cluttering up my facebook page. I suppose I should have just blocked their posts so they never knew that they annoyed me – but I didn’t know how to do that until recently ….

  45. quincyil says:

    I noticed that Cynthia’s fiance has problems with Cynthia talking to Nene on the phone at all hours. The way Cynthia speaks about him is odd. She isn’t happy with so many parts of their lives together. I know she married him, but if you are not happy when you first marry, how can you survive the struggle to form the marriage? I don’t know why she is with that man.

    • TLM says:

      It seemed to me like she had much more of a connection with her daughter’s father, but I guess they both decided they couldn’t live together.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      This man seems to be very possessive and demanding. He wants to get married by a certain milestone, and may be prone to giving ultimatums. He may think of Nene as a bad influence, as Cynthia appears quiet and well mannered, albeit a tad bit of a braggart too. While he is trying to marry Cynthia, Nene is in the midst of a separation, and talking badly about marriage. It seems, that in spite of all her talk of independance she is letting Peter “drive the bus” in their relationship.

      • quincyil says:

        I don’t think Cynthia is happy. She doesn’t like her sex life and he is telling her when she can talk to her friends before marriage. I don’t think she will be married for long.

  46. Had Enough! says:

    Combining a bunch of topics: Here’s a funny photo that is being attributed to Walmart but actually happened at Balducci’s in (of all places) New York City where they should know better:


    My favorite comment:

    Dear Walmart,

    You are barking up the wrong tree.

    Love, the Jews

    PS Everyone knows that Jews don’t shop at Walmart.*

    *This is a take-off of the old joke – What are three words no Jewish princess will ever here? Answer: Attention K-mart Shoppers.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Thank you Had Enough I’m still laughing at that one! Years ago, one of my son’s friends had a mom (Italian) married to a man (Jewish) & their son loved loved loved ham sandwiches…lol.

      I don’t even know what to serve anymore at family gatherings. You see, my husband is Hindu, I have a sister that converted to be Jewish(her husband is Jewish), another sister after being kind of Bhuddist is now very born again Christian, a cousin married a Muslim & she is Muslim, as are her kids who I think at this point are very open minded! and so it goes. I also grew up with a Great Aunt Goldie, Jewish…let’s see is there a religion left unmentioned> oh yes as a child I felt that the native American Indians had a beautiful spirit and were badly treated. So there are vegetarians/non-ham eaters etc. to consider. We end up having Indian vegetarian, non – veg and even sometimes ham. Life is a smorgasboard & you get to sample what ever strikes your fancy.

      By the way, religion is a taboo subject as are politics unless the participants can refrain from screaming!

      • Had Enough! says:

        Hah! I was going to suggest you could make EVERYONE unhappy by serving vegan food! As it happens, we eat vegan most of the time, so I am a bit of an expert on this subject. It is very healthy as long as you are careful to be sure you get enough protein and you think about what supplements you might need, such as iron. However, it tends to be bland and boring. We slather everything with chutneys and hot sauces and lots and lots of herbs and spices. But every now and then, I need FLAVOR. Then I get pho or hot and sour soup, or Mexican-Salvadoran. Unfortunately, I don’t like cumin or turmeric or most curries (I like Thai curries) and can’t eat garlic so most Indian dishes are out…and by all accounts, Indian vegetarian dishes are great.

      • Had Enough! says:

        By the way, I am sure you know that most Jews do not follow the kosher laws at all. Some still won’t eat pork or shellfish, but most do.

        And I agree – that old rule about never discussing sex, religion, or politics in polite company served us all well.

        My two favorite bacon quotes:

        “…the craving of a Jew for pork, in particular when it has been deep-fried, is a force greater than night or distance or a cold blast off the Gulf of Alaska.”

        (Michael Chabon, The Yiddish Policeman’s Union)

        “Try bacon. It’s the gateway protein.”

        Bourdain, advice to vegetarians (and it happens to be true – every vegan and vegetarian I know craves bacon)

        • Sha2000 says:

          True. When I was a vegetarian (twice for a few years each time), I never craved bacon but I did crave meat more than I do now. It was a struggle. I guess it’s the thought of the forbidden fruit, like when your on a diet & all you can think about is cheesecake.

          • Sha2000 says:

            BTW your comment made me think of something funny I saw:

            My neighbors are Jewish orthodox & of course keep kosher; their 19 year old daughter is revolting (tired of being stuck home on shabbos), her plans when she gets her own place are:

            #1 put up a Christmas tree & outdoor lights.
            #2 not worry about observing Shabbos.
            #3 eat where she likes.
            #3 not have to circumsize her son if she has one in the future because it was weird.

            Lol, she’d be shocked at the last one if she knew better, glad she’s still so innocent.

            • Had Enough! says:

              Her parents will sit shiva.

              • Sha2000 says:

                She is worried about that!!!

                I say they are talking the talk.

                • Sha2000 says:

                  BTW, 3 out of their 4 kids want to be Jewish but not keep kosher & do shabbo’s.

                  I think they are loving enough not to shun…I hope not!

                  • Had Enough! says:

                    Sitting shiva doesn’t mean shunning. It means mourning for the dead. They will consider these children to be dead. Nice, huh?

                    • Sha2000 says:

                      I know…I’m a NY-er w/a Jewish step-mom, unfortunately I’ve sat shiva but to me it’s the same difference.

                      Hey why is this comment box cut in half???

                      Anyone one else having a problem? I’m using Firefox BTW, in case you need to fix it Lynn.

                    • Kat says:

                      The box shrinks with each threaded reply.

            • TrillianAlice says:

              Why would she be shocked at the last one.

          • Had Enough! says:


            You know that poem “When I am an old woman, I shall wear purple…?”

            Well, when I am an old woman, I shall eat cheesecake. Every day. Seriously, when they tell me my time is near, I am going to eat cheesecake like it is going out of style. I may also make room for some hot pastrami, assuming I am living close enough to Katz’s to get it delivered.

            • Blue Sky says:

              Is vegan cheesecake any good? One of my friends is vegan & she brought some vegan cookies & some other awful dessert (sorry, but they were really not as good as the real thing!) that might have been vegan cheesecake…so impossible for me to be vegan as I cannot give up butter, milk in my tea, real cheesecake, and ice cream. The last 2 are totally off limits, but once in awhile, it’s good to indulge! By the way Had Enough, both of my sisters are lactose intolerant, and onions & garlic make them very sick. Luckily I’m okay, thank you baby Jesus!

      • klmh says:

        A well rounded group of people! Fun to read, thanks.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Omg! I just posted the same below! Great minds…

      Are you sure Balducci’s? I haven’t been there in a long while (out of state) but it doesn’t look like their signs.

      • Sha2000 says:

        The second I read the name Balducci, I immediately had an olfactory memory…1980’s after HS hopping on the train to the village w/friends & picking up a snack at Balducci’s. Something affordable yet stupid like chocolate covered gingerbread. : )

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          One of my roommates, years ago, was Jewish.

          I came home one day and all of my dishes were stacked in a bookcase in the living room.

          Seems she met a new guy and he was Orthodox, so she felt it was high time to get in touch with her Jewish roots and keep a kosher kitchen. And get the guy too.

          She had me convinced that a Rabbi “blessed” each piece of meat or package of soup or what have you. I figured more prayers, more better, right? It wasn’t until years later that I realized she played me pretty good!

          Well, I’m all about history and tradition so I was fine with it AND I learned so much.

          Like if you slice kosher salami REALLY, REALLY thin and fry it- it tastes just like bacon. Awesome with scrambled eggs.

          But DO NOT under any circumstances put cheese anywhere near it or you have to bury the plate in the backyard. and do something else too, that I forget.

          I remember buying a lot of Corelle dishes. They’re really thin so you can stack different sets easily, and so cheap that when one was contaminated by my Goyimness (is that a word?) I would just throw it out.

          When she broke it off with him, we still kept a kosher kitchen.

          To this day, if I have a choice, I buy kosher. It just seems like the food is “cleaner” to me and I still harbor a secret belief that there is an army of Rabbis blessing each piece of food that goes into my mouth.

          • Sha2000 says:

            No army of Rabbi’s. The same family that I spoke of before, the eldest son at about 14 or 15 had a part time job at a meat & food place, sitting in for the Rabbi to certify the food was kosher.

            Kosher foods, I think it has more to do with the actual slaughter…for most of us that means we’d rather it is a humane as it can be.

            • Sha2000 says:

              Oh! And this is the Jewish family of course, not the other family I mentioned upthread…lol, I’m talking gossip about the neighbors to you all today & this street has some juicy stories, don’t get me started!

          • Had Enough! says:

            There actually is such a thing, but they don’t bless personal kitchens. There are two primary organizations that certify food as kosher. There is OU (Union of Orthodox Rabbis) and if they certified, the package will have the letter “U.” The other really common one is the “K.” I don’t remember who does that one, but very religious Jews won’t accept it because it isn’t trademarked, so anyone can put a K on the food even if it wasn’t certified. So to get the OU or other certification, a person called a mashgiach (not always a rabbi) has to inspect the food production facility to be sure it meets all standards, including the way animals are slaughtered, standards of cleanliness, and a whole bunch of other stuff. Recently, there has been a movement to include in the rules improved labor standards for the workers and better environmental practices.

            • Sha2000 says:

              Right, I always have to buy the circle U when I have them over for snacks, no K, not good enough. This summer we got a new grill, I called & said quick come over to bbq w/us our grille is kosher for today only…we all had a great time : )

          • meadowwood says:

            Lots of misinformation going on here.

            Kosher has absolutely nothing to do with blessings. It has to do with how an animal is slaughtered, cleanliness, what parts of animals are used, and other factors but nothing to do with prayers.

            From: Judaism 101 http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm#Certification
            “Contrary to popular misconception, rabbis or other religious officials do not “bless” food to make it kosher. There are blessings that observant Jews recite over food before eating it, but these blessings have nothing to do with making the food kosher. Food can be kosher without a rabbi or priest ever becoming involved with it: the vegetables from your garden are undoubtedly kosher (as long as they don’t have any bugs, which are not kosher!).”

            There are also other organizations besides the OU that can certify something or an establishment kosher – the letter K cannot be trademarked but their logo or insignia can.
            These certifications are not only used by Jews. They are also used by Muslims and other religions who rely on kosher certification to ensure that their dietary laws are being followed.

            It is also not necessary to have a Rabbi to kosher a kitchen. It has to do with cleanliness and following specific guidelines for your plates, utensils, pots and pans and your stove and oven. You can have kosher plates but if the food was cooked in a non-kosher oven then it doesn’t matter. Many Jewish homes have two ovens and dish washers so they don’t have to kosher them after each use.

            As for sitting shiva when ones child makes the decision to not be religious or marry out of the religon depends on the person. I know friends who came from very religious backgrounds who decided to not be orthodox and others who married outside of their religion and their families did not sit shiva.

            • Sha2000 says:

              “It has to do with how an animal is slaughtered, cleanliness, what parts of animals are used, and other factors but nothing to do with prayers.”
              No misinformation. I am aware of all that you mentioned & having grown up w/a Jewish stepmom (30 plus years now )& I am married to a Muslim man. My comment to the “shunning” was a term to mean they might cut ties with her or sit in shiver…glad to hear you know families that have not gone that far. I believe my neighbors are only trying to persuade their children on whom they’d prefer to have them wed & that of course would be in this case of the same faith. Yes & in the kitchen they have two ovens & two dishwashers…since my grill was new I offered to have them come cook first (their grilling utensils) & paper plates were used…thus making it a Kosher barbecue for that day only : )

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              Hold up.

              No misinformation being spread here.

              We (well mainly my roommate) DID follow all the cleanliness and kosher guidelines.

              The young man she was seeing was studying to be an Orthodox rabbi- so it was taken very seriously, as she wanted to be an Orthodox Rabbi’s wife.

              What I was trying to say is that she TOLD me that all kosher food was blessed, thinking that as a non Jew I wouldn’t go along with the program otherwise.

              It was only when I considered converting myself (not Reform, not Conservative, but full on Orthodox- yes I have the maternal bloodlines) that I realized how much she had tried to manipulate me in order to get her way.

              You are coming across as lecturing us about a subject that others here are as well versed on as you are.

        • Sha2000 says:

          Yum! Flashing on a honey baked ham : )

          • Adgirl says:

            Hebrew National Salami sliced & fried served on hot buttered NY bagels! Yummy!!

            • quincyil says:

              I lived in a grad school dorm room with an Orthodox dental student for one year. She ate tuna out of a can and left the can in the garbage for me to take out everyday so the room didn’t smell like tuna. I hated here dirty clothes so when she went away I washed her sheets and made her bed and did the laundry for her. Her mom called me and hired me to do it for her so I had a clean room and she had maid service. When she got a single room, I did not help her. I can imagine what that room was like though. She married a physician and never worked as a dentist even though she was very smart. We were ok with each other, but her mom and I were very friendly. Her dad was really nice to me too. I’m sure she has a real maid now too. LOL>

  47. AZ Girl says:

    Andy Cohen’s MAZEL of the week on WWHL is…………MichelleofNY on the birth of her baby boy!

  48. Had Enough! says:

    A little bit of “behind the curtain” on Real Housewives of XXX, reality TV generally, Vicki G. here:


    With a snooty comment by Ken Burns, who makes the documentary into the TV equivalent of nembutal. The subjects are wonderful – baseball, National Parks, the Civil War – but in his hands, they are all one long snoozefest. Droning narrators, long shots of still photos…beats the topics to death. Like I always say, public TV and public radio can suck the life out of anything. I admit that I have the attention span of a flea, but Burns needs a good editor.

  49. floridagirl88 says:

    Anybody interested in checking book rankings?

  50. JazzNightOut says:

    Does anyone remember Lynn’s e-mail addy? Too lazy to go thru old blogs to find it. Thanks v. much.

  51. housewifeaddict says:

    Hmmm – are NeNe’s trouble with Gregg all a storyline?


    Seems like they are still together. I wonder if it is just all for show – especially since Lisa came out and said that she was told to drum up drama with Ed to stay on the show – and refused.

    That might be why Gregg refuses to say anything on camera – he’s agreed to take the hit, but doesn’t want to fight back and look worse. Smart man.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      LOL, maybe he’s trying to get his “$300K” back and needs to keep his mouth shut.

      • Adgirl says:

        I think they are separated but living in different parts of the same house. I don;t think Gregg has the $ to move elsewhere and their son gets to see his dad.
        I can’t believe Bryce knocked up his girlfriend. He is unemployed – does he think NeNe will be unwriting his life forever?

        • floridagirl88 says:

          Yes, he does. Hasn’t that been the pattern all along? Why would he expect anything different now. It is unfortunate to see someone so unmotivated to do anything that requires hard work and some sweat. I feel sorry for him. Until he realizes he is the captain of his fate, he will just drift trying to score riches without effort.

  52. Had Enough! says:

    It is cold, windy, and gray. My husband just left on a 2-week business trip to someplace fantastic. I am indulging myself and my self-pity with a marathon romp through the Zappo’s website (I am Imelda Marcos reincarnated … I hate shopping in stores, but thanks to the internetz, I can buy a dozen pairs of shoes in a day without getting out of my sweats!) and hanging with the best women (and men) in the universe here on IHJZ.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Happy Sunday shopping, H. E.! Watching Green Bay v. SF at Green Bay. I am in Milwaukee, but rooting (sp?) for SF because I grew up there. Keeping my ‘yays’ to myself.

    • Blue Sky says:

      We had a really great day today. A dear friend gave me tickets to see the NY Giants play the Washington Redskins, here in NJ! The seats were incredible, owner’s box with outdoor seating with the best view of the field I’ve ever seen. It was awesome, even though the weather was freezing! We parked in the “A” lot right next to the stadium, where the players park their cars. Some of those vehicles were totally over the top. Cadillac escalades tricked out, black Camaro (from the 60’s), too many Range Rovers to count. Good times!!

      • American Idiot says:

        That sounds like alot of fun, Blue Sky. I have not seen the new stadium yet. And yes, it was very cold and windy her in NJ today. I watched the game on TV while doing my tree.

        • Blue Sky says:

          The new stadium is just unreal, compared to the old one. Only one bad thing, is when you go inside to the concourse, the way the wind was whipping thru there made it even colder than sitting out in the stadium. It was just so cool with the jumbo tv screens (four, one in each corner) and it felt like we could reach out & touch the players (we were about 30 rows up, about the 40 yard line…just awesome seats & the private box was something out of the Jetsons. There are only 5 boxes, on the second level, with a private elevator to reach them.

  53. error404 says:

    “Andy also reminded us no less than 10 times that he is Jewish but his two guests were not Jewish. And this matters because….???”

    Not sure if anyone spoke to this, as I’ve been offline and haven’t had time to catch up on anything. Anyway, the answer is: because it was a Chanukah special. The set was decorated for Chanukah and he said many times that that night’s show was to kick off the first day of Chanukah.

    Not that it matters, as the show is so low brow youtube self produced weird … sort of a cross between Wayne’s World and the Seinfeld episode where Kramer had the old set from Merv Griffin in his apt. lol

    • Earring Girl says:

      @Error – LOL!! “The Seinfeld episode where Kramer had the old set from Merv Griffin in his apt.” In my opion Andy Cohen has become a “TV Clown”, his show has been so lack-lustered that I usually fall asleep and when I do catch it on the reruns most of the time I am glad I got my sleep.

      • Blue Sky says:

        Error, LOL you are funny. If you produced WWHL in your basement, it would be so much better than Andy’s lame show!!!

  54. kbinldo says:

    The reason Paul had to go to Germany to get a German shepherd is due to the AKC almost completely screwing up the German shepherd bloodlines in the US. I was looking into getting a German Shepherd a few years ago, & the advice I got back from different sources was “Get one from Germany.” But before I did anything further, I got adopted by 2 doggies from the “street kennel.” (they just showed up one day & decided they were going to live in my backyard). I also had a black lab who was rescued by some friends of mine, but he’s since passed away. 😦

    • lillybee says:

      I agree if one wants a German Shepherd with papers it is best to get them from Germany, my not too rich friend did that ans was very happy.
      My daughter got an American bred one and the poor dog passed away at 6 years old due to a hidden genetic defect.
      My two dogs are both rescued. One is a racing greyhound and the other came from pets without partners.

  55. kbinldo says:

    Ok, about Snowball. Personally, I think Taylor is making stuff up. No doctor will tell you “Yes, this is due to a severe dog allergy” after one office visit where you’re complaining about your child’s eyes & what appeared to be a rash that *you* claim is from the dog. If it’s still a concern after you’ve nattered on about it, what you should get is a referral to an allergist, with all the fun little shots that they give you to see what you’re allergic to. I’m speaking from personal experience, having gone through the whole allergy thing when I was a kid. Kennedy didn’t look like she was suffering from allergies, apart from the red mark on her arm. Russel even said he hadn’t seen Kennedy acting allergic (sneezing, congestion, red, runny eyes, etc). All we have are Taylor’s statements that her eyes are all gunked up in the morning & she has a rash on her arm. So confirming that Kennedy is allergic to the dog takes more than Taylor going to the doctor & nagging him to death until he agrees with her.

    • Adgirl says:

      Just speculating here (because the producers said the allergy was real) maybe the boring skin tests were performed during an earlier doctor visit, and the appointment (with Taylor reviewing the symptoms as if this was the initial visit ) we saw on tv was actually a follow up appt .

      Not that Bravo would stage anything or purposely mix up things chronologically … would they?

      • Earring Girl says:

        It seemed to me when Taylor said to the doctor that Kennedy has been waking up every morning with her eyes shut, the smirk, look and response the doctor gave her “every morning?? or something like that” I just figured she probably comes in there a lot with the child and freak out about something ailing her. I don’t know she is allergic or not but Taylor wants that dog gone because it’s something that Russell did – she keeps saying that Russell got the dog and to me she seems to be saying without her approval – it seems strange with these BH wives there is always an issue and no Bravo tape to back it up. I don’t blame Russell for saying he wants to keep the dog (I don’t want the child to suffer because of it) I just get so irritated when I look at Taylor’s “coat hanger mouth” and knowing she had a $60 thousand party for herself and said it was for Kennedy and then he turns around with the outdoor living room furniture on the patio in the sun that probably cost $100 thousand without his knowlege – too much tit for tat. At the end of this season these two will probably be saying “Adios Lunatic” to each other if not sooner.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I recently learned that they mostly do allergy testing with a blood sample, rather than those prick tests (heh!) now. My doc offered to do this and said it tells them about as much detail as the old style. So perhaps they did this for Kennedy?

  56. klmh says:

    They drove me nuts. Preaching on the back side and dressing like a whore on the front side. Ugh…

  57. Earring Girl says:

    @Boston – Thinking of you.

  58. Wall St Lady says:

    Happy Birthday Buffywood ! ⁠

    Our Dear blond bombshell Buffy

    As a Sagittarius born on December 5 you are a dreamer as well as a doer. You have a strong personal vision that informs everything you do and that may become the focus of your life. . Elaborate, reachable dreams are particularly alluring to you. Your particular challenge is to stay true to their ideas without being intimidated by the objections of others.

    Friends and Lovers

    You should embrace:
    Authenticity, intensity, readiness

    You should avoid:
    Confusion, fear, daydreaming

    Sagittarians make the best friends, and December 5 people are even better in this role than most. They possess an outgoing, sociable nature that draws people to them. Love is generally a positive experience for them. They are romantics who can fall in
    love at a glance and change their feelings
    at a moment’s notice.

    Children and Family

    December 5 natives never forget the magical moments of childhood. As parents, they attempt to connect with the spiritual aspects of child-rearing. This also enables them to study their own links with the past. They are careful to encourage their children to make the most of this remarkable period of life.


    Although they enjoy generally good health, December 5 men and women need to take a closer look at their bad habits. Smoking is especially hard on them and should be avoided. They have a lot of nervous energy, which they need to manage through relaxation techniques.

    Career and Finances

    December 5 individuals have remarkable verbal skills that can translate to a career choice. They may have to work hard and for a long time before their ship comes in. But it is merely a question of “when,” not “if.” They have the potential to put their entrepreneurial skills to use by marketing their own product or idea.

    Dreams and Goals

    Few individuals dream the impossible dream as fervently as December 5 men and women. If they must juggle personal happiness with professional acclaim, they always seem able to make the right choice. They are not willing to give up a personal life for material rewards.

    Buffy , there are some famous people who share your birth date.
    Martin Van Buren
    8th U.S. president (1782)

    Christina Rossetti
    poet (1830)

    Bill Pickett
    cowboy, rodeo star (1870 )

    Walt Disney
    film producer (1901)

    Strom Thurmond
    U.S. senator (1902)

    Otto Preminger
    director, producer (1906)

    Little Richard
    musician (1932)

    Joan Didion
    writer (1934)

    Frankie Muniz
    actor (1985)

    Buffy there are too many people to count ,that are thankful to God that you are here and make the world a better place !

    Xxxxxxxxxxxx 000000000ooooo
    To our Dear Buffy

  59. MichellefromNY says:

    Thank you all so much for the well wishes everyone! Thank god our little baby is adorable and doing just fine. He just gets cuter by the minute!

    Thank u zipit zarin for the booties! The baby adores them! And kansas girl the blanket in deep blue is divine and baby looks all snuggly! Thank you!

    Jill zarin thankfully did not get the 411 on the baby being born. She was actually last to know and her disappointment of not being able to be the yenta about it was seen clearly via her twitter post.

    Anyway im exhausted and so sad im missing real housewives of atlanta tonight. You can watch tv in the hospital but for a price and im too cheap. So ill just have to wait for recap tomorrow morning!

    Hospitals officially suck. Theyre so annoying. I feel like a prisoner cuz they wont let me even leave the floor. The rooms are hot and the beds, pillows, and blankets are awful. Im so dreading sleeping tonight. But thank god im going home tomorrow!! Woo-hoo!

    • Buffywood says:

      I am so excited for you and all that lies ahead.

    • quincyil says:

      I think we are cyber aunts. It may by aunt or ant… it depends where you live… but he’s our baby. LOL.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Congratulations! I think they make hospital rooms uncomfortable so you don’t want to stay too long! Glad you get to go home soon. If you think the child is cute now, wait till you see him in the light of home!

      • HD says:

        Congratulations, Michelle!! I am glad that you and your new baby are doing wonderful. Make sure if your husband has to carry you in the house, he grabs the baby first! 🙂

        Peace and Blessings!

  60. Wall St Lady says:

    Mama Michelle,u & baby r 12 days apart. I bet u have tremendous
    Sympatico. Yep ,Ya’ll will b in the “Palm of His hand”. U will have great blessings all ur life.

  61. Cusi77 says:

    Michelle_ I adore the comment that your baby is getting cutter by the minute!

    Have a nice rest tonight and tomorrow morning you will have a blast with Lynn’s Blog about RHOA! Big Cyb hugs for you and your beautiful baby boy (((( Hugs ))))

  62. MichellefromNY says:

    Az girl– you are truly psychic! I love that u were checking up on me and the baby right when he was born! Love it!

    • justanothermary says:

      All the best to you and your family Michelle.

    • Noelle says:

      Late to the party….
      Been thinking about you..You gave birth to? lbs/oz.? xo

    • AZ Girl says:

      Can you believe the timing? I was hanging lights outside and after I finished I came inside and checked the board. I thought we had not heard anything from you so I gave a shout out. Cuzi picked up on the posting time. Really weird.
      Hope you are resting and feeling better.

  63. TLM says:

    OMG I don’t know what I am more shocked by, yet another view of feces on a Bravo show and the fact that Phaedra just stood there, then just used a tissue on her hand instead of running to a sink with soap and water. She was in her own house — why wouldn’t you just walk to the nearest powder room? — OR that Kim actually sang in key. That woman Jan is a miracle worker. She should play Anne Bancroft’s role in a remake of that movie.

    • Adgirl says:

      I haven’t watched yet but your miracle worker comment cracked me up!

    • Blue Sky says:

      Apollo is a great father, cleaning up the baby, changing diapers. Loved how he handled his adorable son. Fakedra seemed to be waiting for Apollo to clean her up! Hope she realizes what a good guy she has there & treats him well. On WWHL Sheree said she likes Fakedra and that in real life she is very different from the Fakedra we see on the show.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        And she also said the 2 gay hairdressers (I can’t remember their names) like Apollo, and then paused and said well all the guys like him too.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      I wondered the same thing about Fakedra! My first instinct would have been to wash my hands before continuing. And what did they think was going to happen if the baby didn’t have on a diaper? They should have known it was bound to happen.

  64. Noelle says:

    Wow…if I made it through, I’m an IT person. Who knew! just checkin..

  65. Noelle says:

    Yay!! Move over quincy…you have (slight) competition!! You to KAT!
    i FIXED MY COMPUTER , (all by myself!!) (sorry about the caps) ;D
    I’m estatic that I worked it out, god bless “Pete” in India, he didn’t understand me, nor me him. We talked about Indian food! (which I happen to love and he wanted to talk about was hotdogs!?!) It’s all good.

    • Kat says:

      I had a virus. GRRRR Noelle you can have the IT mantle. I hate computers at the moment and for the forseeable future.

      • quincyil says:

        Good work, we will need your expertise in the future.

        Kat, my son controls what comes into our computers. He has a masters in computer security. Sometimes, I am not allowed to download files from friends and I would like to see their grandchildren, but I have to send to him for a release.

        I also think that the security is the reason my computer has trouble downloading the large board from word press at times.
        It must smell troll action and go into red alert.

    • TLM says:

      After 7 hours on the phone with Sony, Microsoft and Comcast, and 2 Comcast tech visits today, we finally got Live TV working on my computer. I feel like I’ve been through the mill, and the fault is entirely with Microsoft for stopping people cold with the setup of Windows Media Center with a nonsensical screen that says it doesn’t recognize IR hardware and an even more confusing diagram that corresponds to nothing. We had to answer different questions with INCORRECT answers you would never in a million years think of in order to defeat this asinine program. I’d like to put my hands around the neck of the person who designed it.

  66. Noelle says:

    Any one here?

    I have the flu..bad. (So they say 😀 ) Can’t keep down fluids..(gotta keep that girlish figure ya know..jeez) I feel better right now.

  67. Adgirl says:

    Hey Noelle, Welcome back to the hood.

  68. Noelle says:

    Everyone is tip-toeing around me and that irritates me.
    I’m a big girl after all and quite frankly I wish these people would leave my home.
    Start by following my MIL right out the door.

  69. Noelle says:

    My connection has been down all day, I tooled around a bit and we’re back on board!
    It’s the little things that bring me joy! I’m easy.

  70. Adgirl says:

    Watching ATL tonight made me wonder about the wisdom of racing your own private car. Especially a leased var. If you crashed it I don;t think that would be covered by insurance because you were racing – right?

    Peter, well that wasn’t very nice of him to be rude to NeNe, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was sick of being everything to do with RH because it’s revealing his business going down the crapper. I heard it wnet out of business. He was probably tired of being filmed in his home and having more RH nonsense with NeNe calling Cynthia alot. (Everyone, Just go the F**k Away.)

  71. Noelle says:

    @Adgirl – Unable to watch tonight’s episode, but I really love Nene, and not so sure about Peter..hell, even Cynthia’a not sure..and I’m not so sure I even like Cynthia .

    Everything’s going out tonight!! 😦

  72. Noelle says:

    Where are you TLD?

  73. Had Enough! says:

    Good morning, all! Here is today’s KellIdiot report. After all the yapping about the launch of a new joory line, she finally managed to get it posted on her own website. Oof! It is a smoking hot (mess), awesomely fugly, and authentically craptastic. A leather cuff so ugg that it gives Lynn Curtin a run for her money. Now, for reasons I can’t fathom (wink wink) it is still not on the Intermix, Blue and Cream, or Wink website – though I did see a really cute roach-clip necklace on the Blue and Cream website called The Kelly.

    On the Twitter front, our pet moron quoted someone named KT Schull, some 20-yr-old female, as saying “big breasted girls never ever pay rent.” But our pea-brain added, “highly educated ones make dreams come true.” Now, if it means highly educated like Kellamity, better get really gigundo jugs, or get ready to pay your own rent. Or pop out a couple of kids so you can get some child support checks.

    And more proof that she follows this board. Just minutes after we commented on the fact that this woman who supposedly dotes on her kids and who says that she wants to be with them all the time was off to Boston, to a fundraiser she wasn’t invited to, and then to Miami (ostensibly to launch her joory line, but in reality to run around in ugly bikinis and say hieeee to a few people at Art Basel, and generally annoy the crap out of people in Miami), she tweeted: “Sweet dreams miami. Love u but love my kiddies more. Cant wait to get home to my angels.”

    Oh, and guess what our pet moron did for Thanksgiving. Yes, we know – she went to a supermarket, but besides that…”Kelly Bensimon: “This year I’m going to be in South Carolina for a hunt. I’m riding in a hunt — it’s really exciting.” Of course, it was a charity hunt to support PETA.

    Stay tuned.

    • quincyil says:

      A red fox was roadkill by my house and I walk by it every day. I’m thinking to send the skin to Kiki so she can make something out of it. The birds are almost done now.

      • quincyil says:

        Never mind… Jill Zarin will probably say it’s a threat. I was thinking craft time for Kelly…

        So never mind.

    • Noelle says:

      @Had Enough,
      I so adore you and am so glad you’re back!
      Thanks for my morning laugh, I needed it more than you know!

    • Blue Sky says:

      Good morning all, it’s spitting a little bit of snow here. Brrr!

      Had Enough, thank you for your posts, sadly PETA & Kelly together make me want to gag. Don’t think she’s changed her views on wearing fur, but she may think it’s savvy PR to volunteer for PETA. We see thru her fakiness!

      Have a great day everyone – stay toasty out there.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      ROFLMAO Had Enough, you crack me up!!!

    • TLM says:

      Was it a hunt for her IQ? Because I would support that…

  74. Had Enough! says:

    More reasons to love Pinky Vanderpump:

    She feeds the homeless – AT HER RESTAURANT.

    Giggy wears all those clothes because he’s lost all his fur except on his head and his paws. She wants to take him to visit children with cancer who have lost their hair.

    And this – Lisa’s restaurants are celebrity magnets, but are there any stars in particular she’d like to see dine at Villa Blanca? “If George Clooney walks in, I’m going with him,” she says. “He is my man. I’m going to stay married until George Clooney comes to his senses.”

    Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b212123_beverly_hills_housewife_lisa_vanderpump.html#ixzz17Koknops

    • quincyil says:

      Pinky is the center of society in BH.

      She’s beautiful, smart, funny, and a businesswoman. She has it all.

      If only her dog didn’t have alopecia.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Amazing. Usually, the better we get to know them, the worse they are. But with Lisa she gets better and better.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Lisa just shines head to toe over everyone else in this franchise. I just once would like to see Giggly walk on his own on a leash like a normal dog.

  75. Noelle says:

    How do I make ?well intention? folks leave my home without telling them to get the hell out!?!
    I’m sure they mean well (in their own mind) but I feel I’m being a hostess when all I want to do is go to bed.

    • justanothermary says:

      The one thing I’ve truly learned throughout chemo is how to tell the well-meaning morons how to kiss off. I simply tell them I’m not feeling well, and while I appreciate their concern, I need to go to bed. And I do. Eventually they get the hint and leave.

      • Noelle says:

        You’re right and thank you for your insight. I shall take heed your advice.
        My MIL never visited and/or offered help when I was really ill, now I get the flu and all of the sudden the sky is falling. I’m sure she means well…in her own (demented) way, and I’m trying to see the goodness of that in her. Enough is enough though.

        On a brighter note, my hair has grown out to approx. 3 inches!
        I keep reminding myself that I look like a very scaled down version of Halle Berry…but a “Halle Berry” all the same! 😀

    • Blue Sky says:

      Noelle, that’s exactly what I would do. Make a cup of tea, take a book, and go to bed…don’t get out of bed until tonight, when hopefully the stale company has gotten the message, & gone. If it’s family, then they can take care of themselves. If they ask why you are in bed, well, you have been sick right? Make sure you put a big bowl or bucket by the bed…ha ha if they think you have the flu, maybe they’ll get scared enough to run for the hills! Hope you feel better & they will vamoose soon. ; )

  76. justanothermary says:

    Truly a winter wonderland here – it’s snowing lightly adding to the 2 feet of snow already blanketing the ground. It’s so pristine and clean you almost forget that it is colder and Dante’s Hell and that I have to actually go out in this crap this afternoon. The clinic will be filled with children coughing all over each other and the grocery store will be filled with crabby patrons trying to figure out how to get enough stuff to be able to stay home for the rest of the week. But it is beautiful!

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