IHJZ Top Chef All Stars Air Date Dec 15, 2010

IHJZ Top Chef All-Stars Week Three – 16 Chefs Left

I really love this show, have I mentioned that? The fact that we already know these chef’s from their previous appearances on Top Chef makes it a lot easier to love it from day one, but the interactions between the different chef’s and the interviews where we learn how they really feel about one another are fascinating.

Tonight the Quick Fire was a prep race, one of the things that chef’s typically need to learn to do well and quickly, is the prep work for the dishes, cutting, slicing, dicing and marinating are all part of the prep that needs to be done in every kitchen every day. In many cases by the time the chef’s reach the level that these contestants have, they no longer have to do all of the prep work so this was fun to watch. Most embraced the challenge and seemed to even enjoy it, Tre mentioned that he has a butcher where he is currently working and isn’t used to trimming lamb. Probably Casey’s most embarrassing moment of her season was revisited as she took ages to dice onions during a relay race her first time around, needless to say her team picked up the onion dicing portion of the challenge tonight and left Casey to butcher the lamb.

The teams were broken randomly into four groups of four chefs and they had to work together to get all of the required elements completed in the allotted time. This included dicing onions, butchering lamb, cleaning artichokes and mincing garlic.

After the prep, they were required to use whatever time was remaining to prepare a dish using all of the ingredients that they just chopped and diced. No immunity will be given out in this challenge but the winning team will be awarded $5,000 each.

Tiffany, Marcel, Dale and Carla made up the White Team and were last to complete the prep work leaving them so little time that they were unable to cook the lamb but served Lamb Carpaccio that guest Judge David Cheng approved of but did not choose as the winner.

Dale, Antonia, Casey and Jamie made up the Red Team, but I’ll call them the “Nice Team”, a nicer team of chef’s you won’t find anywhere! They were a bit slow in the prep work and unfortunately it was reflected in their final dish as it fell into the bottom two.

Angelo, Tiffany, Fabio and Mike made up the Green Team and worked the fastest of all of the teams, but apparently overcooked their lamb and so they also fell into the bottom two.

Spike, Tre, Richard and Stephen made up the Blue Team and while their personalities certainly don’t work well together, they won the challenge so they must have done something right. Spike wasn’t thrilled with his team but seemed ok with Stephen being around to open a bottle of wine for the real chef’s.

This portion of Top Chef All Stars is another good example of the inconsistencies in judging that the show will sometimes feature. Back during season two, Sam Talbot was criticized for serving a cold, uncooked dish. Chef Tom said, “He didn’t cook anything” to which Padma, in her infinite wisdom replied, “so?” Tom followed up with, “It’s a cooking competition”. It is still a cooking competition, there have been plenty of uncooked dishes presented for judging since that day and those were judged on taste and texture without any problem. Chef Sam is the one chef that I’d have liked to see return for this All Star season, I would bet he was invited but turned it down. In fact I would love to see the original wish list of past chefs that the producers wanted for the show. I would bet that Sam was on that list along with Kevin and Bryan from Season Six.

And so $5,000 richer, the Blue Team then chooses a knife from the block which will assign them one of four famous New York Restaurants, the elimination challenge is to eat in the restaurant and then prepare a dish that would be cohesive with the restaurant’s menu.

Each of the four restaurants has a different cuisine, style and the food represents different regions of the world. The teams need to first dine at their assigned restaurant then take to the kitchen to create a unique dish that fits into the cuisine of the restaurant.

As the chef’s break bread together, they realize that they’re eating with the enemy, they’re competing against each other as when it comes time for judges table, one from each team will be brought in as the winner of their team and another member of the team will be brought in as the loser. At that point, not one but two chef’s will be sent home of the four losers.

Tre, Stephen, Spike and Richard drew the knife for Marea Restaurant, serving an eclectic Italian Costal menu it almost seemed unfair as Stephen announced that he is a regular diner at Marea, but Tre wasn’t concerned calling himself a “Black Italian” and loved the kitchen saying he felt as though he was in a Lamborghini.

The judges were impressed with Tre’s Swordfish, Anthony Bourdain called it “tasty”, coming from Bordain that is the ultimate compliment. Richard’s dish was described as “elegant and flavorful” while Spikes merely “good” but Stephen’s was called out as “too aggressive”.

The Green Team, Angelo, Tiffany, Fabio and Mike drew the knife for Ma Pesch Restaurant, a French Vietnamese cuisine establishment that was right up Angelo’s alley. He was thrilled to be given a familiar cuisine that is a specialty and Tiffany was sure to tell viewers that she was not a fan of Angelo’s interviewing that she wished he would just “Shut Up!”.

Just a side note, when some of these chefs turn from regular contestants to” All Stars” they turn into meanies (Jen, Tiffany) and others soften and become kinder, gentler chefs. (Mike, Stephen)
Back to the show, Fabio’s lamb dish was, according to Tony Bourdain, lost in a forest apparently having too many components and nothing really hitting the mark. Mike’s salmon was flavorful and seemed to pass the test, while Tiffany’s was missing something. The final member of the Green Team, Angelo prepared salmon that was described as creative, inventive and flavorful.

The Red Team drew the knife with a restaurant called Townhouse marked on it and I think of the four, this is the one restaurant that I’d love to visit. Described as whimsical, playful and over the top, Dale’s description has to be the best one, he called their menu “Food with jazz hands”. Dale was joined by his teammates, Casey, Jamie and Antonia to prepare their versions of food on acid.

Jamie dodged another bullet here in my opinion, at a restaurant described as over the top, she prepared a soup and salad dish that was described as having “no wow factor” and the restaurant owner / chef said “it could have been better”. If a chef is going to prepare a dish as simple as soup and salad, shouldn’t it be outstanding? Casey prepared Halibut shaped like a scallop and the judges called it beautifully cooked and Antonia’s real scallop won praise from Bordain who said, ”I liked it a lot”. The final chef at Townhouse was Dale who prepared a veal dish that was apparently too sweet and was based on a breakfast dish that included French toast and caramel.

Finally the White Team including Carla, Marcel, Tiffany and Dale were sent to WD50, very modern restaurant with high tech equipment for futuristic cooking that was the staple of Marcel’s cooking during his first appearance on Top Chef. Dale was concerned as he wasn’t comfortable using molecular gastronomy to prepare his dishes but Carla was beside herself as her style is definitely much more down to earth and admittedly specializes in comfort foods rather than foams and chemicals in her cooking. Tiffany embraced the challenge and seemingly used every piece of equipment in the kitchen to her detriment.

The judges were less than impressed with Tiffany’s overly aggressive attempts at using dry ice and freezing fresh fruit. They felt that Carla played it safe, failing to utilize the high tech equipment but it was well prepared and they enjoyed the flavors. Surprisingly Marcel seemed to restrain himself, in a kitchen that should have been his Disneyland, he didn’t utilize the tools to their fullest extend and turned out some bland food. The judges were impressed with Dale’s egg and pork belly dish that seemed like breakfast but was flavorful and cooked expertly.

Marcel may have been thrown a bit in this challenge as he landed himself in a restaurant that apparently employs a nemesis of his. Marcel explained that the suet chef at WD50 had accused him of plagiarism of a dish some years back proving once again that the culinary world is a small one.

The top dish from each team was prepared by Dale, Angelo, Antonia and Tre. This is Angelo’s third week in the top three, having won the first two challenges he is clearly one of the strongest chefs in the competition and the one to beat. But tonight Dale’s egg and pork belly dish is chosen as the winner and Dale is awarded a trip to New Zealand.

The bottom four chefs are brought into Judges Table, one from each team is chosen as having the worst dishes. In my opinion this was a bit unfair as the judges being forced to choose one from each team could have allowed someone with a worse dish to remain safe. If four chefs from one team all prepared excellent dishes and four from another team failed miserably, one of those excellent chefs would have been called in front of the judges.

Luckily there did seem to be one obvious failure from each team but someone like Jamie who prepared a less than “All Star” quality dish was left in the stew room. As the bottom four head into judges table, the remaining chefs wish them luck and tell them to stand up for their dishes but Carla added some great advice, “Don’t pull a Jen, be nice”. Carla was referring to last week’s outburst by a formerly well respected chef, Jen who was sent packing seemingly for her dish and not for her rude comments to the judges.

Stephen, Tiffany, Fabio and Dale have to answer the judges questions as to why they failed, none of them are surprised to be there. Dale’s dish, he explained, was based on a breakfast dish that he’d prepared in the past and was simply too sweet with too many components. French toast and veal did seem a bit odd. Fabio’s dish was complicated and with too much fat left on the meat it just wasn’t cohesive.

Tiffany realized back in the kitchen that she shouldn’t have utilized all the fancy newfangled equipment and probably freezing fresh fruit was not the best move she’s ever made. Her dish was described as having poor texture and watery. Then there is Stephen, admittedly he is no longer a practicing chef, his flavors were off and were described by Bourdain as having an unpleasant aroma of sandalwood.

Chef Tom Colicchio told Stephen that having knowledge of the food and dining frequently in a particular restaurant does not make you and expert in that style of cooking. Chef Tom compared it to his knowledge of Led Zeppelin not making him Jimmy Page. Chef Tom made a funny but I assure you that no one in that room laughed.

So tonight’s knife packing chefs were Dale and Stephen, both were eloquent, gracious and Stephen maybe even a little bit relieved. Stephen was never really Top Chef Material, he was sent home during Season One for abandoning the kitchen to advise and supervise the wait staff and detail the wine parings for a wedding the chefs were catering. Stephen was really a pompous ass who thought more of himself than his peers and it seems as though he returned for this All Star season knowing full well he had no shot of winning.

Dale was clearly disappointed as he got a whole lot further during his season of Top Chef, in fact he came in second place so was never sent off to pack his knives.

Do not miss reading Anthony Bourdain’s blog, in fact, if you haven’t read his past blogs go do it now! His blogs are almost better than the show. Almost!

http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/season-8/blogs/anthony-bourdain/balls-to-the-wall

Chef Eric Ripert also submitted a video blog on tonight’s episode and a second one that includes a message to Elia, the first chef eliminated from Top Chef All Stars. Since being eliminated and being free to talk about it, surprisingly Elia criticized producers and even Chef Tom Colicchio. I say surprisingly because she was clearly upset about being the first to be eliminated but the show was filmed months ago and while she was contractually unable to speak about her elimination when it happened, the time that has gone by should have given her pause to consider her next move. Choosing to criticize and burn bridges with the Top Chef people was probably not her best decision.

Elia’s anger lingering months after her appearance on the show was disappointing because I think she continued to be a well-respected chef even after being sent home, she handled the situation on the show with dignity and grace but really lost a lot of fans by lashing out at Colicchio’s restaurant, which was completely unnecessary.

Here is Ripert’s video blogs:

http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/season-8/blogs/eric-ripert/a-message-for-elia

You can find Elia’s comments about Chef Tom here:

http://eater.com/archives/2010/12/02/elia-aboumrad-does-not-go-quietly-in-the-night.php

As mentioned in this article, the reunion is going to be mighty interesting.

News broke yesterday about everyone’s favorite New Jersey criminals the Giudice’s. Teresa and Joe’s bankruptcy continues to be a hot topic of news on the Housewives circuit and apparently in the courtroom, RadarOnLine had the stories:

http://www.radaronline.com/search/apachesolr_search/teresa%20giudice

RadarOnLine doesn’t go into detail but our very own Had Enough! explains the Giudice’s situation much better and in detail, here’s what she had to say:

I want to make sure everyone understands the effect of the dismissal of Teresa from this case. A creditor who gets a judgment against only one of two spouses can not attach property owned by both of them. So if Mastropole gets a judgment only against Joisey Juicy, he can’t go after any property owned by both of them. At this point, it looks like the only property of value is the house, and the bank is owed more than it is worth, but in any case, he would not be able to go after any jointly-owned property if he has a judgment only against one of them.
What is worrying me is this claim that he also forged her signature on the bankruptcy petition. She may skate as a result; it could end up that the two cases to deny the bankruptcy relief end up going forward only against Joe. Except that even if it is true that he forged her signature, the trustees could argue that she acceded to it and affirmed her intent to seek bankruptcy relief because after she learned about it, she actively participated in the case and never went to the trustee or the court to ask to be removed from the case. I don’t remember her claiming in her response to the trustees’ cases that her signature was forged on the bankruptcy petition.
But there is always the IRS…but even then, there is “innocent spouse” relief…
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p971.pdf
But I think that’s limited to people who filed but omitted things. I don’t know if you can get innocent spouse relief if you never filed at all.

This is the totally normal timeline for a bankruptcy case in which there are lots of complexities. For instance, there have been a dozen or so motions by creditors to lift stays. There have been three “depositions” by the creditors. There is usually always one and in this case, it was complex enough that they held two more (one for Joe, one for Teresa). It takes the trustee a while to verify the schedules of property and debts, and then in this case, you of course had the Mastropole trial (going on now) and the fairly extraordinary filing of two objections to discharge – one by the bankruptcy trustee and one by the U.S. trustee. So there is no delay here and no one is being protected. The system is working the way it is supposed to work.

Thank you to Had Enough! for providing much more insight into what is really happening in New Jersey!

Until Next Time….

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542 Responses to IHJZ Top Chef All Stars Air Date Dec 15, 2010

  1. Had Enough! says:

    YAY!

    You know those great animation spoofs on Bravo shows that we’ve watched on YouTube?

    Next week, they will be ON Bravo!

    http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/shep-tiffany-watch/308548

  2. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Oh snap Eric Ripert! Is it wrong that I loved how he put Elia in her place? I think Fabio and Tiffani are lucky to be there. In fact, I’m surprised that Tiffani didn’t go home watery melon is gross.

    I absolutely love this show and the amount of fantastic cooking is a pleasure to see.

    Great blog as usual Lynn.

  3. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Lynn – Top Chef this season has been fun because we know all the players. They all want to win and new layers of their personalities are coming out!

    HD – IMO, Teresa will fall eventually – either with Joe or without him. The worst is yet to come!

    • T-REX says:

      Did you read some of the other articles at Radar, apparently Tereliarbully started yet another screaming match this time at the hearing, where she started to verbally abuse one of the lawyers wives until the GorillahandlerJuicy pulled her away!

    • quincyil says:

      Celebrities seem to get away with sins and crimes. Paris Hilton was arrested several times and she’s on WWHL calling in to her Aunt Kyle. I think they can do anything they want and they will still be on TV. Danielle Staub is going to be on another TV show.

      I think Teresa is going to be with us for a long, long time.

      • T-REX says:

        Hopefully their next Show will be “Juicy’s from Jail” the reality of living in prison for tax fraud.

  4. quincyil says:

    So.. I finally watched Top Chef and enjoyed Lynn’s blog today. I am not an adventurous eater. I could not eat the foods the judges eat. I like oatmeal with cinammon and truvia in the morning. I don’t add milk. So there’s no way I can eat goose liver or uncooked fish. I appreciate the chemistry of cooking, I just don’t want to eat any of those foods.

  5. HD says:

    I love this show as well. I wish I could taste the food! I think Angelo certainly has on his game face this season and probably feels a little slighted because he was sick during his finale. I think he is back to win.

    As for Teresa, I have no faith in the system that she will be accountable for her actions. She will get away with this and probably get her stuff back or whatever, they won’t have to pay for any of the crap they bought, they will start all over again, she will continue to be an “I think I am all that” real housewife and write another book and get even more money. And the world will keep turning. It seems so unfair but people like this always seem to come out on top which is highly frustrating.

  6. Mary Jane says:

    Great recap Lynn! I’m loving this season so far.

    Can I make one teeny tiny correction without everyone jumping down my throat? It’s “Sous Chef” not suet chef. Sorry to seem anal but I’m in the process of editing a book and these little things jump out at me. Please don’t hate me.

    • quincyil says:

      Lynn and I are English and we grew up with Suet puddings. I’m sure Lynn knows what I am writing about. At Christmas, my grandmother used suet (animal fat) with bread and lots of dried fruits. She boiled it in a sack and the fat drifted to a layer outide the bread. Then Grandma made a brown sugar, butter and rum mixture to spread over the pudding. Lynn is probably in her kitchen boiling this pudding at this very moment as she is English from Northern Illinois.

    • HD says:

      I’m gonna jump down your throat! LOL! Kidding! No one is gonna do that. I did know it was sous chef just because I watch cooking shows SO MUCH and I kept hearing that term and googled it one day.

      I remember when I first came here I was so nervous. I love to write but when I am on a blog I am just casual. I normally write it the way I would say it. Like gonna instead of going to. You know what I mean. I always just figure people get what I was trying to say. I hope. LOL!

      • quincyil says:

        LOL… I just figured it was a specialist in suet… It seems they use every part of the animal in Top Chef.

    • historykc says:

      I thought the same thing! I blame the 5 years I spent as a copy editor… it’s a curse because it’s hard for me not to say anything when I see mistakes, but I always feel like an a-hole.

  7. kmuellfa says:

    I felt badly for Dale. I watched his season because I used to know him personally. I still remember when he said that the show had helped him rediscover his passion for cooking.
    My ex-BF opened Orange in Chicago, and Dale was the original chef (IIRC, he helped create a lot of the menu).

    http://orangerestaurantchicago.com/orange/html/

    • quincyil says:

      Is Roscoe village near Roscoe Street on the North side of Chicago?

      • Adgirl says:

        I LOVE Dale and was very sad to see him go. He nearly won his season. He was middle of the pack until the end when he suddenly came alive. It was so sad/cute when he described losing his desire to cook because the owner of his restaurant retired and Dale as dumped by his lover. We cheered him and Casey on.

      • kmuellfa says:

        Yeah, it’s mainly the area between Damen and Western. I haven’t been to that location even though I live about 5 minutes away. I found out this year that the original location was closed.

        I think Dale was fired or quit Orange before top chef, so I had lost track of him.

        • quincyil says:

          My grandfather lived at 2043 W. Addison. So I know the area as I lived with him in summers and on holidays so I could work at Grant Hospital.

        • MSU Chicago says:

          Dale is currently the Executive Chef at Sprout in Lincoln Park. I live around the block from the restaurant. His buddy, Sara, from Top Chef, is the Sous Chef.

          I was surprised that they closed the original Orange location.

  8. TrueLifeDiva says:

    It’s raining today and I has the sadz 😦

  9. Earring Girl says:

    Tree tweeted this – she doesn’t know what show she was on????
    Did everyone watch the fashion show last night?? Dina, Caroline, Jacqueline and myself were onMMM
    5:18 AM Dec 15th via Mobile Web

    Teresa “Trashbox” is in the NY Post again today – Ugh!

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/it_real_fake_8LPvHIKnHEEXsKMrhk9haL

    • quincyil says:

      Why were they on Millionair Matchmaker? They are married.

    • quincyil says:

      Is it a federal or state crime to forge the signature of a notary?

      • Earring Girl says:

        I would think so – but what do I know? This whole overspending/forgery/lying/drunk-driving/bullying and so on is really getting on my last nerve!

        • quincyil says:

          He is so unattractive and she calls him “juicy.” He’s mean to her in public too. She must be holding this together with a thread.

          • Earring Girl says:

            The thought of “Juicy” in reference to him is —
            Ewwwwwwww!

            OT – It’s snowing in the nation’s capital and it’s starting to look beautiful!!

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Absolutely! A notary has/should have a log of clients who received stamped docs. They have to carry insurance, error and omissions, in case they make a “mistake”, and notarize a forged signature. This can happen with fake id’s.

        There is a line in the oath “Personally known or produced identification_______________” which is where you enter the “type” ex. NJ State ID G456423 Rarely does a notary use the personally known as it is always better to have a license for proof.

    • BessiB says:

      “ ‘You’re violating ethnics’ screamed Giudice,”

      What a f**g idiot.

      I hope that her income is is marital property so her accounts can be taken. Joint property was acquired from the money her husband ripped off, so she benefited.

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  11. AZ Girl says:

    Thanks Lynn for the re-cap. I am sad to see Dale from Chicago eliminated. He is such a sweetheart. Anthony B really liked him and that speaks volumes.
    It is amazing that the chef’s that were “nice” during the regulars seasons (Jen and Elia) are now coming across really bitchy. Whereas the “meanies” Mike, Dale (egg and pork Dale), Marcel seemed to have mellowed out. Still don’t understand why the contestants don’t like Fabio. Good for Eric R. for calling out Elia. She should be ashamed.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think people don’t like Fabio because not only can he cook- he is very charming which helps give him an advantage. It seems like most of the unlikeable people- don’t like him.

  12. katie says:

    Hey everyone, just wanted to say a quick hello. I have a lot of catching up to do. I hope everyone is staying warm and is having a good holiday season!

  13. Adgirl says:

    I hate the Giudices and the Salahis.
    Might as well throw the Bellinos into the bonfire too, except they haven’t been as flagarent (yet) about jamming up their unsecured creditors who are usually small businesses.

    Aside from being disgusting, they are financial sociopaths.

  14. quincyil says:

    I wonder what went down with the OC girls. At the end, Tamara was throwing drinks on Jeana. Vicki is divorcing Don. I bet Don just got fed up with all of this and said it’s me or the show. I hope he finds a really nice woman and has a good life.

  15. HD says:

    Now this is the type of stuff that pisses me off!! WTF!!

    Kim Zolciak, the vivacious blond and aspiring pop star on the hugely popular Bravo series, ‘The Real Housewives of Atlanta,’ wants to offer up expert relationship advice to the world.

    The ‘Tardy for the Party’ singer just signed a deal with Farrah Gray Publishing, the same book publishing house who just released former NFL wife Shanae Hall’s relationship/advice book, ‘Why Should I Think Like A Man?’ They are one of the largest African-American owned book publishing companies in the country and have also have titles by Flavor Flav, Ky-Mani Marley, Victoria Rowell, and Russell ‘Russ’ Parr, to name a few.

    The company’s founder, Dr. Farrah Gray, thinks that Zolciak is a perfect addition to their roster of authors.

    “I’m thrilled to have Kim apart of my publishing house, her upcoming book is sure to wow fans everywhere. She is sassy, smart and sophisticated,” he told BlackVoices.com exclusively today.
    On the Emmy Award nominated docu-drama Zolciak has let viewers in on a number of her relationships. First there was a married man she calls Big Poppa, then a lesbian named DJ Tracy Young and most recently, her new boyfriend and Atlanta Falcons footballer Kroy Biermann, who she is currently expecting a child with.

    While, there were little details about exactly what topics the 32 year-old Connecticut native will cover, Zolciak’s book will surely discuss these relationships and her advice on love and happiness.

  16. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @HD It’s slores like Kim Z. and Danielle S. that make all women look bad. I usually say, “Get your money, girl!” But I will not clap for this bullshit…

  17. kbinldo says:

    I pointed out in the other thread that Fabio’s attitude was “Well, if you don’t like my food, send me home,” & that he fully expected to be sent packing. If you look on his face when they send Dale & Stephen home instead, you can see his shock that they didn’t pick him. That’s how sure he was he was going home.

    • JKW says:

      I actually thought Fabio was going home last night too. I am not sure why he is even still there. BUT Jen was on WWHL last night and her and Tom had a nice conversation. She was one of my favorites and I was very happy that she called in and acted very polite. She at least didn’t burn her bridges like Elia.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Couldn’t listen all the way thru; stopped after comments on Bethenny. BTW….
      Andy Cohen keeps accepting congrats from Tweeters re: his promotion at Bravo. What is his promotion?

    • TheDesignDiva says:

      I wonder if she ever listens to herself…. Why is everything HOT !!! and playins so coy about A Rod….she needs a ROD for sure…and the comments about B….what was that about..if she does good they all do good or some blabber blabber…..
      I will however give her credit for keeping on doing what she does…in spite of what people write and think about her…she just kinda shrugs it off and plugs away…..guess she has inner confidence in herself……kinda…

      Merry Christmas to you all…….
      Hugs and Peace
      Diva :>)

  18. Adgirl says:

    Real Housewife Grifter Index:

    1. Giudice, Sahali (tied for first! They screw everybody!)
    2. Curtin (shaftings of multiple landlords and business associates)
    3. Bellino (mostly due to Jim’s prior business scams)
    4. Whitfield (recent care repo, obviously couldn’t afford the very expensive car she raced!)

  19. quincyil says:

    I read this weeks blogs from “The Fashion Show” on bravotv.com

    It seems the two teams really didn’t do well when it came to the fashion collections this week. It was the color of Nami that was their saving grace. The sea blues/greens are more forgiving than the pale champaigne colors of dresses. Iman said that the designs have to be perfect if the color is not distracting. That makes sense. Also that may be why so many women like black dresses.

    I thought the designers were coming up with the ideas for the shows and they do but the excellent excution every week comes from Stefan Cambell. He came up with the music. Both teams failed the challenge and went with Hollywood’s idea of NYC UES. I did not know that either. I thought that Nami was very Gypsy Rose Lee and I think that impression was correct. When the OC girls talked about the Oscars and red carpet, I thought that Alexis’s dress for the opening of the Met in Season One was very different. I’m not sure that the pale champaigne colored dresses were Hollywood red carpet either. I’ve never seen Rachel Zoe chose that color for one of her stars for a runway.

    The blogs talk about the interaction of the ladies and the designers. Jacqueline apparently loved and wanted that dress and Dominique hated it. I think Jacqueline probably hated it to, but she gave the wrong impression to Dominique when she was talking about how much she hated her body. When I go to the designer, I am going to keep my mouth shut and hope the designer knows how to deal with my figure. Of course, hell is going to freeze over before I go to a designer.

    Iman said that Onessa, the Iranian designer, had been failing in the construction of her dresses for a while and I agree. I liked her and parts of the dresses were good, but I think she’s a collaborator with Cindy in their design business and isn’t used to working alone. She listed to others, but didn’t seem to be able to come up with fixes by herself. I would have taken the skirt apart and not put that odd “vagina” thing on the side. What would make Onessa think that this was ok? I thought the elastic thing on the bottom was odd too. I know she wanted to let Gretchen walk show off the figure that Gretchen gets from spanx, but that looked like something I could do rather than sophisticated. She could have run a single pleat over that to cover the connecting area. That would have looked better…

    Calvin may have made two dresses, but it seems he was bored by the challenge. He watches the housewife shows, but he really didn’t want to deal with real women.

    Eduardo looks at the body and creates the dress. It’s his industrial engineering degree. He looked at Dina and decided that the hips were her best assest. Someone must have told her to place her arm on her hips to accent that part of the dress too. That was genius.

    The fashion show is like a painting. You have a focus point, but you want the viewer to look all around the piece of art. Color is a killer in a painting and it seems it is true in fashion collections too. So…even though I knew nothing about fashions when this show started. I am growing and I have a lot of information and insight at this point.

    I asked my husband if I could leave for a few months to go on a show like the Artist Competition and he said, “Absolutely, not. ” Well, that kinda puts a damper on the application. rotfl.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I would say if not the art show then what about “Wife Swap”? LOL

      Let’s see if he could find an alternate who feeds the horses and mows the lawn. He’ll be in for a rude awakening. All the hubbies always are.

      • quincyil says:

        He is a prince in his own home.

        I think I could do well on the art show because I actually listen to the judges. At least my art would address the request of the judge. I also enjoy out of the box challenges. Now, living with other people who have quirks and tempers…That would not be fun. Being on tv wouldn’t be that great either. I’d like to try it for the challenge of creating the art. I guess I can do that here because we have local juried competitions at least 4 times a year.

    • JKW says:

      They brought up Emeralds colors several times. However, when Isaac did his initial consultation ( or whatever it’s called ) he made the comment that he loved the colors. He did pull out one specific piece of fabric to say it looked cheap and to be careful. It seemed like they listened since the cheap part wasn’t brought up in the critique but the colors were. Also Iman said the colors weren’t right for the red carpet. The task was not for the red carpet but for a sophisticated night out. I thought the judges somewhat based their decisions on things that weren’t really part of the task.

      • quincyil says:

        I have only seen the dress Alex wore to the Met and that was dramatic. I really don’t know what UES women would wear to that event. I guess long dresses because of Alex’s dress.

        Jeffrey said that he lived in NYC and knew, but he didn’t really tell us.

  20. Buffywood says:

    As I didn’t feel like working today I went on the Morris County website that shows many of the Giudice’s real estate related documents. Clearly I am not a signature expert but I have to say that if I were Sterling Bank I would be looking a little closer at the Mortgage document dated 3/14/2008, filed on 3/26/2008. I pulled her signature off documents 5 times and 4 of 5 they are consistent but on this document it is different and looks much like Joe’s in the line above. I am wondering what the name of the Notary was on the document he forged. 4 of the documents I saw, including the one I am questioning about were all Notarized by the same Attorney Frederick XXXX (Don’t want to use his last name) Joe Mastropole himself had previously notorized at least one of the documents I saw, maybe that is name Joe used.
    If anyone has a few minutes and want to look for themselves, here is what you do:
    Go to this link: http://mcclerkweb.co.morris.nj.us/or_wb1/or_sch_1.asp
    Simply enter in Giudice, Gi into the search field.
    When the results come up look at the following files and click Get Image and go to the last page or so. These are some of the ones I reviewed.
    3/26/2008 Mortgage
    6/27/2003 Mortgage
    9/24/2008 Mortgage
    1/16/02 Mortgage

    Please someone look and give me your opinion.

  21. Mary says:

    Hi Lynn –

    First time poster, long-time reader. First let me say I generally wait for Lynn’s blog eagerly and when it is not posted as soon as possible, I start to quiver! However I must address the changes I seem to “feel” in Lynn’s blog and demeanor. Was it a few weeks ago when you were supporting Marcel’s bullies from Season 2? I almost stopped reading you at that point. That was the worst offenses on a reality show I have ever seen to date. Top Chef is lucky that Marcel didn’t sue the pants off of Bravo. Secondly, in response to Andy Cohen’s “Chanukah” Special — why did it bother you that he kept referring to his non-Jewish guests. As others have stated here, it was a joke since it was being shown on Chanukah. I got a sense of negativity from you (that’s putting it nicely). Aren’t you Jewish friendly? And thirdly, when Kandi promotes herself, at least she is being true. Now how come you don’t own up to the fact that you promote your new your podcasts and upscale blogs every chance you get? I think you should – this is your forum — just as Kandi can on her forum.

    I just feel sad that you may be going the way of NeNe Leakes and Elia…. Please don’t.
    I like Lynn.

    PS– I know there will be haters to what I have posted, but again, I am a Lynn fan, and I don’t want to see a change. We gathered here together because we like what she has to say, and I want to ensure THAT doesn’t change. Make sense?

    • 2Stupid says:

      I’m sure Lynn appreciates constructive criticism if it is not intended to be hurtful.

    • quincyil says:

      Pinky promise.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Mary,

      Let me respond to a few of your comments. First I did not, nor would I ever support what was done to Marcel. My point was that Bravo seems to pick and choose what abuse they allow and even condone and what they don’t. Bravo’s recent commercials showing Danielle getting her hair pulled out of her head with the tag line, “haircut by bravo” makes me ill. They make light of the attack on Danielle but act so “holier than thou” when it comes to what was done to Marcel. They did the right thing in the Marcel incident but they were way out of line with Danielle and even making light of Teresa shoving Andy Cohen was wrong in my opinion. Consistancy is the issue.

      On no other TV show that I’ve ever seen has the host mentioned religion as much as Andy Cohen does. You don’t see Oprah talking every day about her Christianity or any other talk show host for that matter. If a Christian had a Jewish guest on their show on Easter, would they keep mentioning that they had a Non-Christian guest that day? The show isn’t about religion. I just don’t see why he keeps talking about being Jewish. It isn’t relevant to what he’s doing, he’s talking about reality TV shows, what does being Jewish have to do with that? I want to hear the gossip, the funny and the guests answering questions. More than what Andy says, it is probably the frequency of his ramblings, he doesn’t showcase/highlight his guests as much as I’d like him to, he spends more time talking about what he thinks and what he wants to say rather than letting his guests talk. So, no, I have nothing against Jewish people, I would say the same thing if he was mentioning any religion on a regular basis, it’s not the place for it in my opinion.

      As far as Kandi goes, I am a fan and maybe it is because I follow her and her mother on Twitter and I’m also her “fan” on Facebook but I see the ads for her new CD every day, several times a day. I have even re-tweeted Kandi’s ad for her CD but it gets to be overkill after a while.

      Of course I have to promote my blogs and my podcasts, how else would anyone find them or even know they exist?

      • 2Stupid says:

        Lynn,
        I think him being Jewish is part of his sctick, like Sara Silverman and to some degree Jon Stewart. I think the stereotype of Jews to some degree are played up in a humorous manner by many comedian/entertainers. Maybe a way ok poking fun of themselves, and to some extent being proud of their Jewish heritage at the same time. I think to the degree Jewish people have been (and to some degree still are) persecuted makes them feel they should highlight their heritage. I hope I haven’t offended anyone.

        • Had Enough! says:

          You are right. Andy Cohen makes the gay thing, the Jewish thing all part of his act. And like pretty much everything he does, he overdoes it most of the time. It just gets tiresome.

      • Buffywood says:

        That Hair Cut by Bravo commercial is absolutely disgusting and it is one of the main reasons I rarely watch that channel anymore. I can’t stomach the ATL or BH Housewives and it is beyond comprehension how Patti can have her own show. Is Jerry Springer still on the air? I am sure Bravo will be willing to pick up his series (again) as its programming is right up its alley.

    • Had Enough! says:

      When did Lynn NOT own up to the fact that she promotes her podcasts and “upscale” (huh?) blogs every chance she gets? She is totally open about that. In fact, some of us feel she does not promote herself enough. She mentions the podcasts maybe once or twice, and then those comments get totally drowned out in our endless yakking about everything on the face of the earth. We had to pester her to put a permanent link to the podcasts in her banner. She mentions the Associated Content blogs one time each.

      Why are you dredging up stuff from weeks ago? Why didn’t you say something at the time, when people could actually see what was said and discuss it. I have a big shock for you, honey, so you’d better sit down…no one memorizes the blogs and the comments.

    • BessiB says:

      Blogs are like TV shows. Just reach for the clicker.

  22. Molly says:

    Please let me know what happened to Bethanny this week-I didn’t think to watch it.
    Thx.

    • emily says:

      Johnny was a meanie. He said he doesn’t care to critique her or watch her because she doesnt seem to care what the judges say.

      Can we please please please replace him with Evan Lysacek next season, if there is one…

      • kbinldo says:

        I’m with Bethenny on that. If the judges (and by judges, I mean Johnny A-hole, actually gave a critique worth considering, perhaps B would care what they, er he, says. Everyone here knows I hate Dick Buttons, but at least he told B she needed to bend her knees & relax on the ice. She does still look stiff & skate too slowly. But Johnny A-hole never says anything remotely connected to her skating, just snide remarks about her work & her life.

  23. emily says:

    I am confused because I haven’t caught last nights TC:all stars yet. Dale won and was awarded a trip to N.Zealand. Dale also was on of the chefs sent home?

    Are there two Dale’s??? I know there must b, but I can only picture Dale from Chicago.
    It is hard to tell the difference between the 2 Tiffany’s in just reading the recaps (when I miss the show). I like Tiffany from TC: DC. I am worried the other Tiffany is gonna b a meanie.

    I agree Lynn, I love love love this All Star season. My fave is Tre b/c I have a crush on him. I like a LOT of the others too.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Sorry Emily, yes there are two Dales…I should have clarified.

      http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/season-8/bios

      This should help 🙂

      • emily says:

        gracias!

      • emily says:

        oh yea season 4 Dale. I remember he was very talented. I just loved Chicago Dale’s personality so much and LOOOOOOOVED watching his and Casey’s friendship. They r so cute!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        What makes it even more confusing is that one Dale won the elimination challenge for essentially making a breakfast dish and the other Dale was sent home for essentially making a breakfast dish.

        I also thought it was weird when Chef Tom suggested to Please Pack Your Knifes and Go Dale- that could be why his dish failed.

        I was sorry to see Dale go home- I would have preferred Tiffany.

        My Favorites are

        1. Fabio
        2. Richard Blaze
        3. Angelo
        4. Mike
        5. Tiffany (from last season)

  24. Had Enough! says:

    Huh. Turns out I never saw the first episode of Beverly Hills. The meet my millionairesses episode. It is about 20 minutes in, and I’ve seen Ex Mrs. KG’s kids (first and only time, I think). And already I hate Camille.

  25. Mary says:

    Lynn–

    I appreciate your reply. I have not seen the Danielle commercials – but I agree with you, that is a terrible thing to do. Just like when the gals from RHONJ were on Iman’s show and dissing Danielle – I don’t think it’s right. But how would we know you are on Kandi’s facebook, et al, and get bombarded with her messages? As you said, consistency. Of course you should promote yourself — that is exactly what Kandi is doing, and shouldn’t be dissed for it. She is above board and honest with her promotions, unlike the other housewives. I don’t like Cohen’s interview techniques, but that never bothered me – that’s just who he is. You seemed to keep bringing it up over and over – which is why I felt there was some negativity attached. Again, I appreciate your response on the subject.

    2Stupid – Yes, it was meant as constructive criticism.

    quincy – I see you have young children, as do I – pinky swear!

    Had Enough – Not what I was referring too. I was suggesting not to diss Kandi for her self promotions – heck, LIFE is one self-promotion! I said I have been a longtime reader. It just seemed lately I was noticing a change, and brought up the elements in the past as part of how I felt. I didn’t know there was a wrong way to post on a blog. I believe I was sincere and straightforward and gave my critique without malice. Isn’t there room here for frank discussion? I always thought so. Thanks for listening.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I’m sorry but I have to disagree with you that I bring it up “over and over”. I mentioned that one night that Andy was harping on it but I rarely mention it on my WWHL blogs. In fact it generally doesn’t bother me much but that one episode it got irritating. He seemed to be spanking his guests for not being Jewish, and you could see that they were uncomfortable because they didn’t know how to respond to it.

      • TLM says:

        Nooooo Lynn!!! I don’t believe Andy was “spanking guests” for not being Jewish! He was joking that it was a Hanukkah special with no one but him celebrating Hanukkah. I did not get the sense they were uncomfortable. I think it would not have been funny to me if they looked uncomfortable.

        Around this time of year, EVERYTHING on tv is about Christmas. It so dominates the airwaves that I think it was even tongue in cheek for him to call the show a Hanukkah special. Hanukkah is actually a minor holiday on the Jewish calendar and the fanfare of Christmas, with all the shows, songs and pop culture references, has often left Hanukkah in the dust, lol. It’s why Adam Sandler did The Hanukkah Song years ago, because there just wasn’t anything like that around, despite there being so many secular/pop music Christmas songs. And the song itself tries to tell everyone how many famous people are Jewish who you didn’t realize were Jewish and observing Hanukkah, which is funny. It is the “underdog” position of Hanukkah that Jews have all grown up knowing, and like to sometimes joke about, because it has never been able to compete with the fabulosity of Christmas.

    • Had Enough! says:

      OK, I will accept your assertion that you are sincere. I took your dredging up things from weeks ago to mean otherwise, but I will take your word for it. You always didn’t express yourself clearly, and now that you have explained what you meant, I’ll believe that you just didn’t really know a good way to go about expressing your views.

      So maybe now you realize that it is best to speak up at the time, not wait for days or weeks. Just jump in, like we all do, and speak your mind.

      I hope you can understand why some of us felt you were coming across as a deliberate trouble-maker.

  26. emily says:

    OT but I think a lot about what people in my real life think of Housewives franchise and what not….

    I know a lot of straight men can’t watch the housewives. For example, my dad cant stand Atlanta.
    However he liked New Jersey and LOOOVES Beverly Hills. His favorite is Camille because it is fascinating to him what a cold evil beyotch she is. hahaha. (he’s never seen NYC or OC)

    My ex boyfriend would get so angry with my housewife obsession and hated them all.

    What about all of your husbands/boyfriends/ male friends? are there any series they absolutely cannot stomach? any series u are surprised to hear they actually enjoy??

    • HD says:

      My husband doesn’t watch any shows but Atlanta and he has to happen to catch it. He knows all the people on Atlanta and loves Nene!

      My daughter used to ask me do you still hate that red headed woman? Then she would tell me I was wrong for hating someone. How do you get out of that? I told her this was necessary. LOL!

      • emily says:

        I got my mom reading this blog. I dont think she has ever commented. But she used to say to me “I gotta find out who this Jill Zarin is and why I should hate her”

      • Buffywood says:

        OMG, that is so funny about your daughter. The word hate is not allowed to be spoken in our house. A while back RealCity Housewife’s blog title had the “F” word in it. I had Lynn’s blog in one tab and her’s open in another. My daughter came in and busy nosy like she is looked at my web browser. All she saw were the two tab saying “Hate” and “F#ck”… She said “Mom, what on earth are you reading”. It was pretty funny…

    • Had Enough! says:

      My husband regards Housewives as a car wreck. You can’t look away. It is a freak show.

      He had an even worse reaction to NY Season 3 than I did. He couldn’t watch it. Overall, though, he likes NY to the extent that he likes any of them because apart from the money, we have so many NY friends; we relate to people like that. Heck, I am a NYer. Ditto for NJ. When Teresa, Queen of Tacky Land went furniture shopping, I said to him, “watch – she’s going to pull out a wad of cash.” He didn’t believe me. And then she pulled out a wad of cash…

      I think he was slightly open to watching with me because he enjoyed watching Runway with me. When he found out that a lot of straight guys he works with watched Runway, then it was OK to watch Runway and he enjoyed it. So once you get accustomed to the drek on Bravo, you find it easier to watch other stuff.

      He doesn’t watch Atlanta and hates OC. HATED DC.

      • quincyil says:

        When it comes to all things, first impressions are usually correct. I find that you are quite astute.

      • justanothermary says:

        Justanothervirgil hate it all. He once told me that he used to think of me as an intellegent, articulate woman, but that the hobags have destroyed me! He was kidding, but there is some truth to it. We used to watch Stanker together and he happened to catch the last episode when I wasn’t home. He was appalled. He said she used to be a little crude, but now she just down right disgusting. He won’t be watching that again.

    • California35 says:

      Hi Emily – The Housewives are for my eyes and ears only at home 🙂 Even I can’t stomach some of them at times 😛 I watch the shows by myself. He is aware of my interest with Bethenny and whenever he sees something about her, he tells me “there’s your girl” 🙂 He was watching Skating with the Stars (since he watches Dancing with the Stars), and he was surprised when I stoped the second episode upset saying that I didn’t want to watch it anymore. He was like “but Bethenny is on it!!” It was comical. I watched it later, but I fast foward a lot of it. He also knows about my obsession with this blog. He seems please that I have someone to talk about or read about regarding the housewives because he doesn’t care about it, and I don’t know anyone who watches the shows.

      • Toront0 says:

        My situation is very, very similar. I watch the shows alone. I don’t know anyone who watches the housewives but then, nobody knows I do, except my husband. When I first started with OC I was so embarrassed that I watched because it was so bad – but I was fascinated. It was so much fun last spring to discover this blog and so many like minded, intelligent people!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Great question Emily!

      My husband loves NeNe, he thinks she’s hysterical but he’d never admit he even knows who any of the Housewives are…so shhh 🙂 hehe

      • 2Stupid says:

        My husband sleeps through all of them, but he would sometimes stay up for NY and now BH. He absolutely loves Jeff Lewis though. He get giddy when a new season starts!

        • Had Enough! says:

          Oh, all Bravo shows? He likes Jeff Lewis, and don’t tell anyone, but he likes Bethenny and BGM. He even watched the wedding with me. And he does NOT like weddings! (except ours, of course – low key, beautiful, suited our style)

          • quincyil says:

            My husband watches Link tv at 9 every night, that is Al Jazzera. Then he tells me the real new of the planet Earth according to Middle Eastern anchors.

        • emily says:

          Of all Bravo shows, I could get my ex to watch Top Chef with me but he didn’t like TC: Desserts.

          The weird thing is, he LOVED Millionaire Matchmaker and would want to watch that. Ugh, I’m pretty sure that was a red flag!!

    • AZ Girl says:

      Are you kidding? I can’t get my husband in the room or near the part of the house that I am watching. Ummmmm I am not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing considering we work together and are together 24/7. Anyhoo his god awful forensic shows are on at the same time so all is good.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      My husband refuses to watch any of the new HW series. I didn’t watch DC so that didn’t matter but he gives me grief about BH. He doesn’t even like me watching it in the same room as him- even if he is doing stuff on the computer.

      He pretends not to watch ATL- but really he does. He couldn’t get over NeNe asking to speak to Peter and going off the way she did. He thinks Kim looks like a tranny and a tramp.

      As for the other shows- he loves to hate Patty.

      He thinks Kathy Griffin is a hoot but doesn’t really care for her political opinions.

      LOVES Jeff Lewis

    • historykc says:

      my boyfriend hates everything about the housewives and bravo, with the exception of top chef.

  27. T-REX says:

    About our Dear Bethenny:

    Very Interesting since Rob is a big JZ backer:

    http://www.popeater.com/2010/12/16/bethenny-frankel-real-housewives/

    • quincyil says:

      Interesting… Do you think that JZ is the insider? I would think she would promote the idea that Bethenny is out of the picture and I doubt she would bring up the need for a foil for Kelly Bensimon.

      It sounds like someone in production who is worried that there won’t be enough drama.

      • T-REX says:

        I don’t think this would be a JZ inside tip, I bet it’s another “insider”. I don’t know that I will be looking forward to watching the JZ/Kellycrazy show either, without the Comical Commentary of Bethenny. It’s also interesting to note that they flew them overseas ala Sex in the City, and I would bet that the trip was an absolute “snoozefest” to watch.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I don’t think JZ is the insider. Sort of sounds like Alex or Sonja but my theory is partly Rob created with a sprinkle of what Bethenny has already said publically. RHNY won’t be the same without B and Bravo will find out quickly where this franchise stands early in the coming season.

    • California35 says:

      awww no Bethenny? It won’t be the same…I do understand though. I wouldn’t want to deal with those two ever again.

    • Buffywood says:

      “Without Bethenny on the show, Kelly’s strange behavior is no longer funny, it’s just annoying,”… Intersting as we never thought it was funny in the first place.

      • quincyil says:

        Kelly is going to be Kelly so she will lock horns with Ramona and there will be drama. I think Jill will be use Ramona as the foil and Ramona will forgive Jill in the end because everyone wants to stay on the show.

        • Had Enough! says:

          One of my favorite moments was Ramona at the Kodak train wreck, mimicking Kelly.

          Kelly is sure to be jealous of Ramona who is 53 and looks great in a bikini and has a REAL business (unlike Kelly who is 42, looks like shit most of the time, and has pretend joory business).

          • quincyil says:

            Someone put a link on the board about this. It said that Kodak was quite upset with the reality stars. What would possess someone to say that in front of a camera even if it is true?

          • Toront0 says:

            I think Kelly thinks she looks great in a bikini. There is no one who shows so many pictures of themselves as she does. Would it even occur to her that someone could look better than her?

  28. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Mary, I unfollowed Kandi on Twitter because of the NONSTOP tweets for her store and CD release. Its cool to tweet it once or twice a day. Its cool to announce upcoming concert dates. But she was really “SPAMMING” her followers with her tweets. I was done with her when she began tweeting pics of items for sale that were photographed on the floor with the price tags fully displayed. Just tacky!

  29. Mary says:

    2Stupid – You said it just fine. I am Jewish, and that is the pretty much the only thing I like about Andy. My parents survived the Holocaust, so yes, after being in this world for 49 years – I appreciate others who are allowed to say who they are in today’s world without fear or retribution and above all, I appreciate the inclusiveness(there wasn’t much of it back in public school in the early 60’s). I am proud of who I am, and I am glad Cohen is as well. You are correct – it is his shtick.

    • 2Stupid says:

      Thanks for sharing that Mary. I know in today’s PC world everything is off limits. Every religion has it’s crosses to bear in some sense (not making light of Holocaust survivors). I am Catholic and get tired of hearing how every priest is a pedophile. I know everything has it’s place and time, but you should feel comfortable to be who you are.

      • Had Enough! says:

        In a way, what Andy does could be seen as a way to stop this PC stuff. If people could talk about these things, and laugh about these things, maybe we’d all get along better. Not talking about it for fear of offending someone just makes everyone kind of nervous. You can talk about it with sensitivity and maturity…it doesn’t have to offend!

        • quincyil says:

          Some people have personal agendas. I learned that from a principal of a middle school after I watched a mother rip his face off in a meeting of parents. Later, I asked him how he survived and that was his answer. He had learned that from his mentor when he was young. I sounded like a good thing to remember and I’ve shared it with my children. When faced with an adversary with issues that you don’t understand, you can neatly place that person in the file marked “personal agenda” and move on. This is a Christmas gift that I am giving to everyone on the board.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      you must be the only “Mary” I know that is Jewish- That’s typically a Christian name.

      • quincyil says:

        http://www.jewfaq.org/jnames.htm

        very rare… I noticed that right away

        “There do not seem to be many given names in English that are distinctively Jewish, other than Israel and variations on it. Certainly, biblical names like David, Joseph and Michael are popular among Jews, but those names are also among the top-10 first names overall in the 1990 United States census. For obvious reasons, names like Christopher, Christine and Jesus are almost unheard of among Jews and Mary is unusual, but names like Peter and Paul that you would think of as very Christian are surprisingly common among Jews. Names that were once thought of as stereotypically Jewish, such as Ira, Irving and Isadore, were actually attempts to Americanize Hebrew names like Isaac and Israel, and in any case are quite rare in America today. ”

        Very few Muslims watch a lot of Christian programming in my experience. So I’m surprised she was so interesting in Christian shows.

        Plus, the name went from Mary, to Maryann to Mary Ann…

      • quincyil says:

        btw, I turned on the board’s Christmas troll alert system and there was system failure. I thought we had pinky swears as our warning.

      • lillybee says:

        Mary is a variation of Miriam which has a very rich Jewish history. And Mary, Jesus’s mother was definitely Jewish.

      • TLM says:

        My thoughts exactly, Boston!!

        I grew up with every version of Mary, Marianne, Mary Ann, Maryanne, all Catholic.

  30. Tara F says:

    SOUS Chef — you need a spell check, BAD!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Why? I have YOU! 🙂 thanks!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think as someone else pointed out- with much more courtesy and tact than you- that it was actually a grammatical error. I don’t think spell check would have been much help- unless she ran a grammar check and usually the suggestions are weird. e.g. “I will not stand for this” corrected to be ‘Of this, I will not stand’.

      But really thanks for playing. We have some nice parting gifts for you. As Tabitha Coffey would say- “I have a present for you, F*** OFF”.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      It’s “You need a spell check BADLY” And the comma is superfluous. BAM!

      • HD says:

        ZipItZarin, I am cracking up. I needed that! When I saw you put “BAM!” at that end of your sentence I about died. LOL! Girl, I needed that! LOL! Thank you!

  31. Earring Girl says:

    Bethenny is on Ellen today making vegan holiday cup cakes.

    • California35 says:

      Oh 😦 I am going to miss it again 😦

    • quincyil says:

      so that’s a cupcake without egg…. ok? we are going to need a chef to explain this.

      • Had Enough! says:

        No eggs, no butter….no dairy products at all.

        Here’s an example – http://www.stickyfingersbakery.com/

        The moisture is usually supplied by vegetable oil, applesauce….

        Vegan baked goods used to be dry and awful but people have experimented and developed good recipes. Whole Foods has a GREAT vegan ginger cookie.

        • quincyil says:

          I never put butter in cupcakes. Although I have purchased cake mixes that did call for butter.

          The egg helps hold the cup cake together, doesn’t it? I know in pumpkin pie, it does because I have forgotten to put the eggs in and it lost cohesiveness.

          • Had Enough! says:

            The albumen proteins indeed coagulate and so help the batter hold together and keep its shape.
            The yolks provide the fat that makes the cake soft.

            Quincy – you should read Harold McGee’s On Food and Cooking (recently revised) and his blog, the Curious Cook. As a scientist, you will love it!

      • BessiB says:

        It uses silken tofu. I made Bethenny’s molten chocolate cupcakes again tonight. YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE HOW GOOD THEY ARE!

        Tip: it is more economical to make your own oat flour by lightly toasting rolled oats in the oven on a cookie sheet, let cool, then grind in the food processor for 3 minutes.

    • kbinldo says:

      Does dumping a can of pumpkin into chocolate cake mix make that chocolate cake vegan? 🙂 It does come out yummy & moist!

  32. Wall St Lady says:

    I don’t need the trash can as I thought at first.
    This is not as bad as it seems.

    This is about jo forging signatures w/his x partner. Mr Ape was taken out of the case. Jo must still be tried for stealing from his partner via fraudulently signing partners name.
    http://perezhilton.com/2010-12-16-teresa-giudice-cleared-of-fraud-charges

    http://perezhilton.com/2010-12-16-teresa-giudice-cleared-of-fraud-charges

    • quincyil says:

      Well, no matter what happens, we know Teresa has to pay the IRS and NJ state taxes. You can go bankrupt, but you don’t get off the hook from government claims against you.

  33. Maryann says:

    2Stupid – I am always comfortable with who I am, yet as a child in a public school in the 60’s- there were restrictions if you were not in the mainstream religion. I appreciate your sentiments.

    Had Enough – I like his “in your face” attitude. It is refreshing.

    Lynn – I don’t think he was “spanking” the guests with it – again, that’s his shtick, and it was really relevant considering it was a Jewish holiday. I’ve seen a lot of Christmas shows and national talk shows focus on Christmas and I don’t think the Christian guests on those shows are “spanking” Xmas and its traditions down our throats. Again, it felt a bit negative from your end, but I am glad to receive your response.

    May everyone have a wonderful and safe holiday season!

  34. quincyil says:

    I love cyberspace.

    I watched the promos of the fight at tonights supper with the BH ladies. I remember Faye Resnick now. I and others here closely followed the trial of OJ. It’s weird that last Tues, we had Judith Regan who was on tv constantly during those days and later published the books from the prosecutors in the trial. Tonight…Faye… When stars collide, they collide. It’s almost been 20 years and both Faye and Judith look great.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Didn’t Regan try to publish a book by OJ, titled ‘I Did It?’ Wasn’t that when she started having trouble at Fox?

      • quincyil says:

        I think so. There was a problem about how OJ would be paid and the Goldman family went to court to get the proceeds.

        I just google that.. yes, you are correct. 2006. That is when she was fired from the publishing company.

        She published Christopher Darden, the OJ prosecutor’s book in the mid 90’s.

        • JazzNightOut says:

          Yes! Forgot about the Goldmans. They didn’t give up, did they? Loved their son and brother a lot to be so faithful no matter what. Ron Goldman is rarely identified as ‘Ron Goldmn,’ but Nicole’s friend.

          • JazzNightOut says:

            ‘Ron Goldman’

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Actually- I think it was Ron Goldman’s father who keeps pressing for the judgment to be paid- and wants the book released so he can receive the profits.

              I believe I read some where than Ron Goldman had been estranged from his father before his death. It was suggested that Ron was a homosexual and that his father was not supportive of him.

              • Zipit Zarin says:

                If that is true, then someone should have told OJ. OMG, how tragic that OJ thought he and Nicole were hooking up that night!

                • quincyil says:

                  I think OJ went to kill her and Ron accidentally got in the way.

                  • Rabble Rouser says:

                    Yes, he was dropping off sunglasses that her mother had accidentally dropped earlier that day,outside the restaurant Ron worked at. Ron offered to drop them off when he finished his shift.

                • BessiB says:

                  No, Ron was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

  35. twoile says:

    OT Just wanted to let all know that the London “Daily Mail” newspaper has a short article on the front pg re: Cat Ommanney “America Divorcee” Nanny reporting 2 x’s that the Royal Limo came for her etc..Cat states she only met & kissed the Prince Harry 1x. This must b in anticepation of her shopping the book to publishers. I’m sorry that I’m so tech challenged that I’m unable to “link” the way so many of you gifted writers.:0)

      • quincyil says:

        I looked. I think she’s actually muscular. Look at her legs. I think she works with weight and that is why you see the indivual muscles. She’s in her 30’s and skin elasticisty goes after menopause.

        I remember the naked back of Jeri Ryan, 7 0f 9 in Voyager. It was like that and she was around 30, but in exceptional shape.

        Apparently, I notice odd things and store them in my memory. Christmas elf syndrome. It helps us remember all of the names of children on Santa’s list.

        • AZ Girl says:

          Cat works her arms, legs and shoulders. From that picture there is no buildup of muscles in her back (Lats or rows) If she did work her back more there would be no creases. Still she got a great figure. Kill for it.

    • boston02127 says:

      @twoile–posting a link
      right click on the link (it will become high lighted) and a little menu comes up. click on “copy” on the little menu. then come here and right click again and click on “paste”.

      • twoile says:

        Thank you ((((((((Boston))))))))) hope you r doing ok. It is so nice 2 c you post a recipie of your Mom’s & I think I’l try it. Now 4 a tech challenged query when u indicate that I shoud right click on the link etc when exactly is this link? Top bar with address? Thank you again Take Care. ps what r u taking up in college? Oh yes congrats on your new position, sounds gr8 4u Best…..

    • California35 says:

      I was confuse as to who it was you were talking about…Cat for DC …sorry.

      Thanks for the information twoile and Had Enough.

      I have been interested in her book, but I had not heard anything about her or the book again.

    • quincyil says:

      Why did she get “American” as a title? She is not a citizen. She wasn’t here very long after he left her. She went back to London.

  36. California35 says:

    One of my coworkers just told me that her mom is going to the Ellen show, and that Bethenny will be in the show (I knew that because Earring Girl said it). OMG! I envy her right now 😛

    As anyone ever been to the Ellen show? I looked into it a few years back, but there was no availability for months. I kept getting a message telling me to check back again later.

  37. boston02127 says:

    Patti Stanger’s Rules for the Office Holiday Party
    http://www.usmagazine.com/healthylifestyle/news/patti-stangers-rules-for-the-office-holiday-party-20101612

    Rule #2 —– Thankfully I read Patti’s advice! Who knew to stay dressed at a party??? Patti is so cleaver & smart.

    • California35 says:

      LOL

      Yeah, I went to my company party I got drunk and took my clothes off..NOOOT 😛 I guess there are people who really need her advice….again NOOOOT 😛

      • justanothermary says:

        The whole crew working at Skanks-R-Us need her advice – the rest of us, not so much.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        Once at my office Christmas party I some how some way, I swear to gawd, accidently touched my male boss’s …err…junk.

        I apologized profusely, and finally said, as a way to break the ice, “not a good career move”. So he looked me dead in the eye and said- “not necessarily”.

        eeeewww!!!!

        I did get a promotion right after that though. He never came near me, but always kinda…lingered if you know what I mean.

        So I think you should NOT take Patty’s advice and start swinging your brassiere around your head. That will get you noticed!

        no more job related problems.

        kidding , kidding!

    • justanothermary says:

      Patty is smuckin’ fart! In the words of OMIB (I think).

      • Adgirl says:

        One of my female co-workers got so drunk at an office party that after she went to the restroom she accidently tucked her skirt into her pantyhose top. She wandered around the party crying “where is my skirt?”

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          SNORT!

          LMFAO!!!

          Did anyone tell her where it was? Or did you just let her wander around looking for it?

  38. justanothermary says:

    Totally off topic – but what’s new? I was inspired by all this assoicated content talk so I went there. The have now published my 2nd article!

    *** Here’s the Link! 🙂 Lynn

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6109502/the_2010_blizzard_in_minnesota.html?cat=74

    You don’t have to read it or anything, I just want some clicks! Thanks all!

  39. California35 says:

    Had Enough!said:

    You know those great animation spoofs on Bravo shows that we’ve watched on YouTube?

    Next week, they will be ON Bravo!

    http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/shep-tiffany-watch/308548


    I am looking forward to it 🙂

    • vilzvet says:

      Yes they have been running the promos for days and it’s making me laugh! Can’t wait to see them, but not sure how some of the Housewives will feel!

      • JazzNightOut says:

        “Money can’t buy you class.” (sung like Lou Rawls)
        “Oh shut up, b*tch” (in a very non Andy like voice).

  40. AZ Girl says:

    Tonight is the night that BH goes crazy. Dinner party put on by Camille. Up tread someone mentions Judith Reagan and Faye Resnick.
    I was really disappointed in how Judith looked on MM. I love her personality and laugh. She was really a lovely, polite, date.

    Judith is well off financially. She needs a better stylist. The hair color is not good she needs a color weave and the cut to needs to have more layers.

    I think Faye looks pretty good considering the history of her lifestyle.

    I know “MEOW”.

    • quincyil says:

      I wonder who starts it.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I’m believing Camille with a snide remark, OR one of her paid friends. A paid friend starts it, lol.

      • Adgirl says:

        heee heee we “Know Who Starts It” … what makes me crazy is why they/Kyle fall into the damn trap!

        If you know someone is a snake, don’t be surprised when they bite you.

        • JazzNightOut says:

          There used to be a comic “The Far Side” by Greg? Larson. One had a reptile testifying in court: ‘of course, I did it in cold blood!’

          • Adgirl says:

            I love The Far Side. Gary Larson retired it awhile ago.
            My son had a high school project where he had to create a family tree. My dad included a far side cartoon showing an Amoeba pointing out his squiggly predecessors on a white board to his amoeba children … “This is your Great Uncle Herbert and Aunt Lillian”…

    • quincyil says:

      It seems she is a year younger than me. I thought her skin looked good. I’m sure she’s fun to be with since she was nice throughout this ordeal.

    • Noelle says:

      Isn’t Allison Dubois on tonight as well? The show “Medium” is supposedly based on her..and Kelsey Grammer is the executive producer of the show. (It’s recently been canceled but it had a good run.) Didn’t Camille insinuate she recommended in Patricia Arquette to portray Allison….uh, okay there Cami… whatever you say.

      There was an interesting article on @ http://tvtime101.com/2010/12/13/who-are-nkws-bffs-allison-dubois/
      It looks as though tonight is going to be something to see.

  41. emily says:

    Did anyone post or see Kim Z’s article in CNN Entertainment about her pregnancy and all that?
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/12/16/kim.zolciak.pregnancy.ppl/index.html

    I know a lot of ppl find her awful and vile but I really really like her. She cracks me up! she is just such a cartoon and ridiculous acting that it’s like she isn’t real to me, she’s just awesome effing television.

    anyway, I’m looking forward to the BH dinner tonight. Wondering if the husbands will attend the dinner as well?? Would be interesting to see how Mauricio interacts with Kelsey’s wife.

    • Adgirl says:

      I agree about Kim! I know I should be embarrassed to admit that I enjoy her but I can’t help myself.

  42. sss says:

    1) On what grounds was the case against Princesss T dismissed? Can’t they get her for breach of contract or fraud as a third party beneficiaty?

    2) I think Fabio survivied last night only because Bravo loves him and knows he can drive the viewer numbers up. From the comments of the judges they disliked his meal more than they did Steven’s; but Steven is boring; Fabio is not.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      sss, actually if you read Anthony Bourdain’s blog, he says he actually enjoyed Fabio’s and would even order it in a restaurant.

      • Noelle says:

        For once I agree with the judges and the right people went home. Jamie has some good luck. I still think she should have gone home last week and agree with you Lynn (her dismal tomato soup and salad) should have sent her home this week.
        I think both Dale and Steven’s dishes were worse then hers and that’s why she’s still here.

  43. Wall St Lady says:

    Vigms Sumanti
    Fugmata
    Jabone
    Bye Gejimons !

    Look how far we have come
    TOGETHER !

  44. Zipit Zarin says:

    This is for justanothermary 😀

    • JazzNightOut says:

      LOL!

    • Cusi77 says:

      Zipit_ Hehe! Thank God that does not happen in Las Vegas so often!

      Last year… or the year before, we had snow in town… I think the last time had been 8 years before that time. We had high mountains around the valley completely snowed every winter and the view is majestic!

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      LMAO..that was a hoot

    • justanothermary says:

      That is hysterical, and a little eerie – I could definitely see that happening! Thanks for the laugh!

  45. Zipit Zarin says:

    I am madly in love with Anthony Bourdain. It’s a good thing I’m not the stalker type. My favorite No Reservations episode is the one they did in Italy and shot it in black and white like a classic Italian movie. I can’t find it on the net anywhere so I guess I’ll have to buy the whole season…and I don’t even know what season it was on. My cable has been showing reruns. But I did find his blog about it and guess what? He thinks it’s the best show ever too. We’re soul mates! LOL http://blog.travelchannel.com/anthony-bourdain/read/looking-at-the-black-and-white-world/?fbid=CRPR9pLXoaT

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Oh, I love a romance!

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Seriously. I never thought I’d love again. I mean, who wouldn’t LOVE THIS MAN. OMG. Brains, humor, looks, cooks…did I mention looks? I need smelling salts when I watch the show. LOL

    • Cusi77 says:

      Just imagine Zipit, traveling around the world and in love! lol.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        He’s married. But I know someone who knows someone who….

        wink lol

        • Cusi77 says:

          BTW, my hubby has a friend (French descendent) I would love to introduce you to him! He lives in AZ.
          Is widowed and has the looks of AB and a heart of gold!

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            Is he ok with skinny women who have “smoke back”? lol

            • Cusi77 says:

              “Smoke back”????

              • Zipit Zarin says:

                See upthread about smoke back. I smoke and I love it.
                ======~~~~~~~

                • Cusi77 says:

                  Me too. I do smoke. I started smoking after 50! Your boyfriend in AZ does not smoke, thou

                  • Cusi77 says:

                    Oh! I just asked my husband if your boyfriend smokes… he enjoys CIGARS!

                    This could be a match make in Heaven!

                    He is 63

                • quincyil says:

                  Tamara Barney took a cig out of her purse after telling Simon in the limo that she wanted a divorce. Cat O has a smoker’s voice. The Countess has a smoker’s voice. I think you two have a lot of housewives in your camp.

              • quincyil says:

                They showed Lynn Curtin’s back in an open dress on “The Fashion Show.” Lynn is thin and in excellent shape, but her skill was in rows in her lower back because of too much smoking and the Califorian sun.

    • Had Enough! says:

      My two favorites are North Jersey with Mario Batali (leave the gun, take the canoli) and the recent return to Paris. I also loved Ghana, Vietnam, and Laos.

  46. Zipit Zarin says:

    “It tasted like a Head shop.” Too funny. My favorite Head shop from the early 70’s in Minneapolis is still there and it smells divine. The Electric Fetus.

    • justanothermary says:

      I’ve been there! Justanothervirgil rolls his own cigarettes (yes regular tobacco, now) and gets supplies there now and then. He says it makes him feel young to just walk in the door!

  47. Wall St Lady says:

    Zip it Zarin
    I was at lunch at La Cirque and
    Anthony Bourdain was sitting at a table next to mine. Some how he figured out I was WSL on Lynn101’s blog. He had a bottle of DP sent to my table then he turned around w/his beautiful smile & gorgeous self. He begged our forgiveness but said he had overhead us and was COMPELLed to ask if there was any way I could get him out of his misery ! He explained that after lurking on Lynn’s blog for months ,he has fallen madly in love w/Zip it Zarin. I told him he had certainly picked a beautiful woman of honor,who is loved by all. (Secretly I wanted to have him meet me in the powder room)
    I told him I would be glad to pass his #s etc to u but I couldn’t guarantee that u would respond as u already have a very exciting life, full of suitors.
    He is just a cute as u. I am not sure he deserves u.
    When can u meet him ?

  48. twoile says:

    OT link http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/real-housewives/ Re: Danielle from RHWNJ. I’m just so thrilled it worked …(((((((((((Boston02127)))))))))) is a gr8 teacher.Thank you

  49. cdnfillie58 says:

    watching RHOBH marathon today…something caught my attention, the episode where Taylor threw her daughter that humongous b-day party..the jewelry designer she bought the necklaces from, she said to him something about him winning big at the poker tournament…this episode was way before last week’s episode when the tournament was actually held…another Bravo blooper 😛

  50. Wall St Lady says:

    Zip it
    That cad ! I didn’t see a ring !
    But he sure is cute.

  51. cdnfillie58 says:

    Camille Camille Camille.. you invited your medium friend (that when drunk, tends to hit below the belt…) to the same dinner you invited Kyle to .. you are such a BIOTCHE

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I know, like she isn’t setting this whole thing up to pummel Kyle.

    • California35 says:

      I watch Midium – Alison doesn’t act like that!! The show makes her look much much better than how shevreally is. Maybe the 5 or 6 huge drinks didn’t help.

  52. TrueLifeDiva says:

    Aww sookey sookey now! 😀
    http://absurdtosublime.net/2010/12/16/dj-tracy-to-kim-zolciak-scream-my-name/
    This could be very juicey…

  53. Noelle says:

    My chef-crush is for sure Michael Symon. Epic crush. I met him and just smiled like I was twelve yrs old (hell, I was probably kicking imaginary stones on the floor too! Aww..shucks and stuff..this never happens..grrr)
    He was so gracious and kind…so my husband tells me! jk 😀 He was great and so friendly, that just made my silly crush..EPIC! lol

    • quincyil says:

      I don’t hate Camille. I think she is insecure. She has reasons to be insecure. She wanted to play a role on TV and it didn’t go well for her. I see a person in trouble.

      I don’t like her friends.

  54. allison dubois should have helped her friend Camille and told her about the cheating husband.
    crazy

    • twoile says:

      The “friend” nailed C……..& projected it on to Kyle……..I’ve several gifted friends who would never mix alcohol w/readings….many non-tipplers…Allison does not have any gift that I could see.

    • California35 says:

      I know, right? I was thinking that she meant to tell Camille what she told Kyle.

  55. Cusi77 says:

    That medium friend is reading Camille not Kyle!

  56. cdnfillie58 says:

    apparently Allison Dubois whole family is talented
    http://www.tv.com/video/3jjbSSPhvdVBDU3JuCqPFt_TmQZNGoxD/?o=cbs

  57. Had Enough! says:

    Can we change the name of this blog to I Hate Allison DuBois? What a vile bitch.

    • Earring Girl says:

      Vile and drunk – stay away from the camera!

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Completely agree. She is a nasty piece of work. I now I wish I never watched “Medium”.

      • Earring Girl says:

        Maybe she had just gotten her notice that Medium was cancelled and she just said what the f……!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I used to be a fan of the show- not I am happy it’s canceled. There is no way I could stomach it now.

    • Allison Dubois is drunk and her stupid ass friend Camille should have cut her off long ago. her credibility is shot.

      • Ruby Newbie says:

        This “psychic” chick just reinforced what I learned in church years ago. She does not have a God given gift. She consults with “familiar spirits” aka demonic entities. She is so dark and angry and rude. No wonder she drinks like a fish and calls Camille friend. She is dark-sided. Her “gift” brings torment. Talking about, “I know when they’re gonna die and what happens to their families.” Are you kidding me lady? She needs Jesus, seriously. A person with a God given gift would have a much more loving and temperate approach. There’s a big difference. Just my opinion…

        And did she blow all credibility tonight or what?

    • Kat says:

      Allison was awful. What a bitch.

  58. klmh says:

    Beverly in new jersey

    Do you hat Camille? 🙂

  59. Zipit Zarin says:

    Wow, it was an Alice Thru The Looking Glass world. Camille brought her side-kick to help her set the spider’s web and catch them all…and the side-kick said Kyle brought her side-kick to set THEM up. Completely ass-backwards of the reality.

  60. TrueLifeDiva says:

    “His penis walked right into my hand.”
    I giggle like a teenager when I read this 🙂

  61. IMJ says:

    Wow! Do dead people talk to mean bitches? Maybe shes trapping all the mean spirits and thats why she drinks so much?

    • Had Enough! says:

      Dead mean people probably talk to her.

      • quincyil says:

        Well, I think that some people are extremely aware of body language and can read meaning in the tone of the voice even when someone is acting. I’d say it was a gift to be able to read that well. Are they actually getting vibrations from the mind of another. Maybe. I know twins do it. There are studies in identical twins knowing each other’s thoughts miles apart. They have the same life experiences and same brain structure.

        I have had feeling that somethng was wrong and called to find out something terrible had happened. This was an unexpected event too.

        Hypnosis as Kyle had for flying does work. That is part of medicine.

        I don’t think this woman has shown that she has gifts. She was very mean. Jill’s and Sonja’s sooth sayers didn’t help them much. They served to reinforce Jill and Sonja’s dreams and fears.

        I’d like a job doing this for Bravo. I can read people after many years of study. I can pick out Christmas trolls on the board in their first very nice post.

        I can be the board medium if you wish.

  62. Had Enough! says:

    Another Kelly Bensimon fashion mistake:

    This is how it should look:

    and here’s how Kelly does it:

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      what an idiot.

      How does an ex model make everyone else look better than her?

      At least we can’t see the ubiquitous camel paw.

    • Cusi77 says:

      Great found Had Enough! One just can smile…

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Had Enough, I LMAO when I clicked on the Kelidiot. Now (per SonjaMorgan) you’re just attacking a crazy sick person! LOL

      BrookeShields, coiffed and svelte looks lovely. Kelly not so much. She looks like she’s taking a lunch break from working at the circus!

      • Had Enough! says:

        So true, so true. One minor point: KellIdiot is my invention, not Sonja’s. Along with vomitaceous. And Jill’s Trained Sasquatch.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Of course. I meant like on Scary Island when others were responding to Kellidiot, Sonja said “now you’re picking on a sick person. Love your nicknames for the wives.

  63. Zipit Zarin says:

    I wonder if Camille thinks ANYONE is buying what she’s selling!

  64. cdnfillie58 says:

    holy…you think she’s gonna have any clients left after tonight…Ms. Dubois, classless medium is what you are. I haven’t seen such behaviour since grade school

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      She was mean and nasty. When she said that if her kids were missing she would come to her for help. Seriously?!!? That awful, nasty and delusional.

    • klmh says:

      She is one mean drunk!

      • Dani says:

        I agree I thought that was a terrible thing to say about anyone’s child. She is one scary b@*ch and Camille fits right in with her. I didn’t like Camille before, but, now I think she is a nasty, crazy pig.

  65. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    I love how Camille is taking pot shots at Kyle’s marriage and Mauricio when hers is in shambles. From what we’ve seen of Mauricio and Kyle’s marriage it is definitely one of love.

    • vilzvet says:

      She KNEW she had to apologize for those remarks during her call-in to WWHL. Not sure if Kyle bought it but she accepted it.

  66. kbinldo says:

    OMG, what the heck was that!! LOL!! I’m going to be up all night writing that recap! 😀

  67. Noelle says:

    I’m not liking how Kyle treats Kim. I understand Kim’s difficult but Kyle takes most her anger out on her and that’s not fair.

    • Ruby Newbie says:

      I do think she takes Kim’s love for granted. Kim is a bit daffy, but she’s her daffy sister who’s been there all her life. But I don’t think Kyle will ever allow Kim to just flounder out there alone. I do think she takes little “breaks” from her.

      • justanothermary says:

        I’ve never had sisters but justanothervirgil has three of the most vile, meanspirited and just plain homely sisters I’ve ever seen. I watch them interact and it fascinates me. There is, however, a close bond there that is unbreakable. Maybe it’s their abundance of facial hair that keeps them together, cuz I can’t see anything else they have in common.

  68. TLM says:

    My Comcast froze just after that psycho medium lady told Kyle her husband would never fulfill her and that she only likes to talk to men. ACK!!! Then it switched the channel to ABC Family after 5 minutes of a black screen. WTF??? I missed the first critical few minutes of the escalation of the argument.

    Did everyone catch when Camille said someone else had “fake lips”? The whole upper half of Camille’s face never moves, and she’s judging other people’s plastic surgery??

    I think it’s funny Camille said SHE was set up. I feel it was a setup to have that horrid woman there to attack whomever walked through the door. And she of course goes back to “it must be jealousy”. And then the remaining 3 women, Camille, Didi and Allison, sat and cackled like witches around a boiling cauldron. Allison DuBois… where did this drunken psychotic piranha fish come from? She actually makes Camille seem nice. Someone needs to put ammonia and bleach in those cigarettes.

    Kim almost falls down when she leaves, and then is again alone in a limo, trying to get her sister on the phone, to no avail. Where have we seen this story before? I wonder if she then called Single Gary and sang another stanza of “That’s My Chicken…That’s My Chicken…You Got My Chicken.”

    • Adgirl says:

      Yes Camille spat that Faye Resnick has a fake face and lips, just after the scene where Camille and Taylor have a liquid lunch and Camille interviews that Taylor is Real.

  69. Wall St Lady says:

    Allison must not watch Medium. Allison De B does NOT give readings ! She receives visions about crimes.
    I hope we never have to see her again.

  70. justanothermary says:

    Just an update. Bravo had been dropped by my cable company. I called them and told them to stop my service as I was getting dish (yes I’m that addicted). So, they call me back about 2 hours later and say Bravo is back on their line-up, that it was never really dropped there was just some glitch in Bravo’s signal or some crap like that. I’ve decided to take it as a sign that God loves me and wants me to be happy.

  71. emily says:

    This Allison DuBois chick is infuriating. People like that make me angry, but really I should pity her. She just destroyed her image.

    her twitter is @therealmedium and her tweets are blocked of course because if you search the tweets TO: @therealmedium, they are very very uncomplimentary.

    Adrienne and Lisa seem so tough but they never step up and fix the situation when it needs to be. (maybe producers instructed them not to?) When these things happen at someone’s house, it is always the hostess’ fault for not shutting it down. It seemed like Stacie DC’s ice cream social multiplied by 100 degrees with a 5th of crazy.

    • HD says:

      Emily I have to agree with you because if that had happened at my house…well it would not have happened at my house or any house that I was attending dinner. You don’t sit there and let people just go at it. Enough was enough. But like you said, they may have some clause in thier contract that says when drama starts don’t try to intervene or something.

    • kbinldo says:

      To be fair to Adrienne, she didn’t have a dog in that fight.

    • I just think Adrienne is being smart…..she cannot get involved.
      her whole family business cannot be attached to this crap in any way.
      she has tooo much to lose

      • HD says:

        I think it should have been stopped but it seemed like it started spiraling out of control very fast. Camille started all that mess with the Playboy comment. Like she was just sitting there and it dawned on her that Faye was in Playboy. And that look on her face and how she rubbed her hand over her hair like she had scored a point or something. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

        At any rate, I would have stopped it but Camille got exactly what she wanted. As the host she should have said something but that is what she wanted to happen. That look on her face was priceless. She reminded me of the guy in Needful Things who just goes around starting mess and then sits back to enjoy the drama and confusion.

        • quincyil says:

          What is the problem with being in Playboy. Jeanna and Kelly are in it. Bethenny and Alex have nude pictures out there.

      • quincyil says:

        I laughed when the whole group moved after the sprinklers turned on.

    • Ruby Newbie says:

      Y’know I’ve been in meetings (yes meetings at WORK) that got pretty heated and I didn’t appoint myself referee. I guess I was too busy being fascinated by the completely inappropriate behavior. Now if curses started flying or there was the threat of violence, I would have intervened. Maybe Adrienne felt that way too.

      • emily says:

        I’m sure Adrienne definitely felt that way. After all she is very business-oriented.
        And I think Lisa is someone who loves the drama but always manages to be on the outside of it. She knew she could stop it but couldn’t help herself. like something horrible that you want to stop looking at but you can’t.

        I just cannot believe that Allison Dubois went on the show and acted that way. Taylor made me really mad tonight too.

    • Adgirl says:

      I totally agree. Someone should have acted with authority if Camille would not. Lisa, Adrienne and Taylor should have interrupted loudly and changed the subject. Seriously weird scene. Kyle reacts immaturely. She should have told Faye to cool her jets.

      • vilzvet says:

        If the friends had not been mixed obviously this would not have happened and they all would have gotten what was hoped for, a nice drama-free evening with awesome food and drinks. Wonder who is hosting the 20’s themed party next week, it looks like more fun to be had.

  72. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Beverly in New Jersey, hey chick! The Natura Bisse is nice. I was using it conservatively but am going to ramp it up a bit more now that I know I won’t get any side effects. I’ve used it 4 times so far and my summer trucker’s tan is almost erased entirely. I’m noticing my skin glowing and looking less dull. At this rate I might be able to throw out my foundation by the time I finish this canister. I don’t need nearly as much as the directions say. 6-8 pumps is more than enough. I’m looking forward to further results. I’m keeping a photo diary (I’m just that corny). Between this and my permanent make up, all I’ll ever need is lip gloss and mascara soon 😀

    • oooh. I am so happy for you!! I used it tonite. It really is exceptional.
      Yesterday i used it on my hands and I was really amazed at how soft
      it left them. it is too expensive to use on hands and body parts, but,
      sometimes you splurge. (specially at my age, i freakin love it!)
      You will not have any side effects, if you have any “spots” you want to address
      (which i doubt cause i think you are very young, but i had, have, big “freckles”
      and I used the Oxygen cream and it Eliminated them.
      I am really glad you liked the stuff!!
      ps. thanks for the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      hello ladies!
      you can also ***very*** carefully use it under the eyes. It helps to soften any tiny dry lines.
      After you apply it- you’ll have a little extra on your hands, use it on the back of your hands to fade out any little sun damage. It’s nice on the decolletage too.
      I love this product.
      The”dry oil” that you mentioned that you got as a sample is called Rosa Mosqueta oil. It’s a very interesting product as it uses oil from the plant that grows only in Chile

      http://skincare-simplified.blogspot.com/2009/09/oil-from-rosa-mosqueta-plant-may-help.html

      “There’s a plant that grows in Chile that’s been used by the natives to treat their skin for generations. It’s called Rosa Mosqueta and it was only used in modern medicine in the 1980s. But what does it do, exactly? It’s said to have powerful healing properties…from this plant is applied to a wound, the healing process is said to be faster. It’s also been associated with reduced wrinkles and scar removal.”

      It is AMAZING- I use it instead of a serum and I love it. Pretty inexpensive compared to the rest of the line too, it retails for about $55 in the stores.

      http://shop.naturabisse.com/_product_43629/ROSA_MOSQUETA_OIL

  73. HD says:

    If Allison is such a medium why didn’t she tell Camille that Kelsy was cheating?

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Because Camille’s WHOLE PROBLEM WITH KYLE is her fabulous marriage to such a hot man. From the get go she’s zeroed in on Kyle because SHE is the one who is jealous. Her call tonight on WWHL was so disengenuous and obvious. She finally (for whatever reason) caught a clue that no one is buying it. I wish Amy Sedaris was there with Kyle because she would have said “BULLSHIT” to Camille. I loved her on the show last night. The kind of guest you pray for who has no problem saying it like it is and is hilarious to boot. Kinda like Bethenny 😀

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Oh, and that wasn’t part of the plan. It was to set up Kyle, not Camille 😀

        • quincyil says:

          Actually, I think the plan was an interaction of the ladies for Bravo’s filming. I don’t think Camille planned a fight. I think she had her hired best friends for support because, like Jill, she likes an army to protect her. I think Camille truly believes that her pecking orders is higher because she is Mrs. Kelsey Grammer. Camille thinks she is higher than Kyle who should not question Camille.

      • HD says:

        I think she called in because she felt stupid. While she is spending her time talking about Kyle’s marriage Kelsy is in New York planning a life that does not involve her. The chickens came home to roost baby! Cluck! Cluck!

      • NMhousewife says:

        After reading your comment, I went to Bravo blog and watched the few WWHL videos with Amy Sedaris and Tom C from last night. That was soo hilarious! I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard! I wish I had seen the whole thing. That is the type of guest that should be on more!

  74. klmh says:

    You notice how much smaller Kyle’s lips are this evening or is it just me?

  75. Earring Girl says:

    I just googled Allison Dubois and the real-time comments are flying about her appearance on Housewives tonight.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      What a nice gig, huh? You get to say anything to people using the guise that you have some psychic power that makes it legit. That is, if people are gullible enough to fall for it.

    • emily says:

      I just found her wikipedia page (last edit tonight, big surprise)
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_DuBois

      and then at the bottom was a link to a website debunking her dubious claims. I gotta say, she makes McHale and Tarmac seem a little less con artist-y. wow, I am imagining how crazy this show would have been if Bravo cast Allison as one of the HW’s. im scared.
      http://www.twopercentco.com/rants/allison_dubois_week.html

      • Earring Girl says:

        Check out the statement in Wikipedia as to who got Patricia Arquette(sp??) that job – not Camille as she claims. Cum-mille you are a F-ing Liar!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I read the myth of Allison DeBious last week when the said she was going to be at the party. It actually made me choke when she started to go off saying how she had been studied by ‘scientists’ as a way try and authenticate herself when in reality, they offered you to take the million dollar challenge and you never took them up on it= they also concluded that she wasn’t physic or a medium.

        She has never been on the payroll of any law enforcement agency- and any info she did offer to them never amounted to anything.

        She is a phony….a big phony…

        I would put more stock in asking a magic 8 ball than any bull crap that spewed out of her mouth.

        • quincyil says:

          I think these “mediums” take in the facts of the murder and make general suggestions which can be interpreted in many ways. I listen to the questions when they ask family members about their dead relatives and they go from the general to the slightly general, but are never specific.

  76. HD says:

    I know this may not have been funny to some people but when Kim told the one woman with all the plastic surgery to go blow up her lips some more I thought I was gonna lose it. LOL! That was so funny to me.

  77. Amber...Real Wife says:

    That was pretty shitty of Kyle, dumping her sister like that. She should have been given the option of meeting for drinks in Beverly Hills. She had a limo to drive her home so what’s the problem?

    • Noelle says:

      I agree. It seems as though Kyle needs all the ladies surround her when things go array and leave Kim by herself. It seems like a pattern…it could be editing too. Who knows..

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Kyle explained on WWHL that Kim lives by Camille and the others are in Beverly Hills or around there. I guess it took 2 hours because of a road closure so that’s why the ladies were in one limo and Kim by herself. Strictly for traffic reasons.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      She had some lame-ass excuse on WWHL about traffic and where they live and yadda yadda. Bottom line is she didn’t answer her cell phone when Kim called so she was definitely ditching her.

      • Noelle says:

        She does that quite often to Kim. Kim’s not without fault but Kyle just bugs the hell out of me because she’s just as bad if not worse for putting her sister down while gathering the girls around for her woes (specifically Kim.) At Kims’ expense…not a sister I’d want, for sure.

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          She says she swore to look after her. I doubt her mother would approve of the job she’s doing.

          • Noelle says:

            Exploiting a sibling’s weakness and then seemingly punishing her in front of so-called friends and national TV is beyond comprehension and downright cruel.
            In this case, I truly hope it’s editing.

            • Cusi77 says:

              I think that Kim, instead of being fighting with Taylor, could have said that Kyle never said in Las Vegas what Camille alleges to have heard… She had another opportunity and did not stand up for her sister.

              Oh! Goshhhhh! I have no life…

              • WindyCityWondering says:

                agree – Kim could have said it never happened in Vegas and backed her sister! She said she hates confrontation and then she goes after Taylor??? Kyle needed her support but didn’t get it – yet again….

            • Scorpiosue1102 says:

              I think there was a whole bunch of editing with the car scene. They made it seem like Kim was calling Kyle the whole way back to Beverly Hills when Kim lives very close to Camille.

              I do think Kim was just sticking up for Kyle. I think Kyle was just in an angry zone and nothing was going to change her mind on how she felt about what Kim did. I do see Kyle’s point that it was already a mess, but Kim heart was in the right place. Seems like Taylor doesn’t want her place in this exposed too much.

  78. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Beverly in New Jersey, umm I’m not THAT young. I graduated from high school in 198*-something ;-). Also, I’ve had a covertible for 12yrs and never thought to use sunscreen (in southern ca, no less) until about 5yrs ago. I’m seeing the brown spots appearing on my cheekbones where the sun hits. My grandmother had age spots really bad. They started off like freckles on her cheeks around 40 and by the time she was 50 she had so many they connected. It looked like bad contour on her cheeks!

    • quincyil says:

      I have had pulse light for age spots and I used sunscreen since my 20s when it came out. The sun and age are really affecting my skin.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        Most medspas won’t treat AFAM skin for age spots with the IPL, they feel there is too much risk for a burn, as the light has to pulsed in such a way that it’s called a “long pulse”.

        Typically anyone that’s of East Indian descent or with any African American heritage, can only be treated with a “short pulse” as that will not cause a thermal injury.

        There are some MDs that will sd it, but the energy has to be turned down so low IMHO the results are negligible.

  79. klmh says:

    Seems that Allison has been a stinker for a while:

    http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2006/07/allison_dubois_.html

      • Cusi77 says:

        Thank you Emily. I read the entire 7 pages. Wow! Allison is A dangerous liar! With supporters who want to believe in her expensive readings. Her 3 books are plagued with outrageous lies -police and family members have come forward to tell the truth.
        She has no shame. The Ophra Winfrey show where she appeared was based in lies about how she solved a girl’s tragic death. The father of the girl was invited by Ophra to unmask Allison lies. He refused because he needed that precious time to solve more important issues related with his daughter death.

        This article (IMO) is a must to read. Thanks for the link.

    • Cusi77 says:

      Wow! That was from 2006! She is more fake than a 3 Dollar bill!

      • quincyil says:

        When Allison said that she would refuse to help those ladies if one of their children was kidnapped, I was horrified. First, I don’t believe that she could help. Second, it is horrible to say that you won’t help a child in danger if you think you could.

  80. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Interesting …from the BH producer blog, the dinner party was less than three weeks after the whole New York incident. Also, Kyle and Faye really did have plans for that night.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      You mean Faye wasn’t brought as part of Kylie’s evil plan to mess with Camille- even though Faye didn’t say boo to her until Camille brought up playboy? And certainly not like how Camille brought than drunken truck driver Allison.

  81. Lisa to Allison ” I must watch it”
    priceless

  82. It’s been a great evening, only because of you!

    Signing off, till next time

  83. Cusi77 says:

    Not Camille! Do not dress in black and offer pizza for dinner! It is a recipe for d.i.s.a.s.t.e.r!

  84. Zipit Zarin says:

    Did anyone watch the HBO serious ROME? I’m obsessed with everything ancient Roman so of course I keep watching it on DVD. I’m comparing Camille with Atia in my mind and I must say…”Camille, you are no Atia!”

    • Noelle says:

      No, never watched.

      About a month back you posted a video about Christmas in the mall and shoppers singing?? All actions spontaneous….
      Been trying to find, so many people want me to forward.
      Thanks

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        I’ll go get it…my sister posted it on FB. brb

        • Noelle says:

          Thanks so much! xo

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            If you click on it twice it will go to youtube and you can copy the URL. I posted the URL instead of the embed but it still posted the vid. 😀

            • Zipit Zarin says:

              Or, go to youtube and search Random Acts of Culture Philadelphia

            • Noelle says:

              @Zip,
              Thanks so much!! 😀

              I’ve been searching and (couldn’t find) so many more people have requested it to be sent to them that I’m thrilled you provided the link. Quite the video still!
              {{HUGS}}
              Merry Christmas Sweets!

          • lillybee says:

            One of the most fun things I even did was go to a sing along of the Messiah in NYC.

          • Buffywood says:

            This is only about 4 blocks from where I use to work in the City. That is the old Wanamaker building and the history of the organ is fasincating. The organ plays several times daily through the Christmas season and when I worked there my friends and I used to walk down at least once a week for the noon show. If I remember correctly as a kid they also use to have a big train set that went around as well. It is a really nice experience to help you get into the Christmas season.

    • ches says:

      I loved Rome. And Camille couldn’t shine Atia’s shoes.
      I do think though, that Allison Dubois bears an uncanny resemblance to Cloris Leachman in “Young Frankenstein”. The way she was sitting there with the weird facial expressions, smoking that freaky cig …all she needed was the mole for the transformation to Frau Blucher.

    • JKW says:

      Zipit…Yes, I watched Rome. I loved it. Atia has Camille beat hands down. At first I hated her but as the show ( Rome not HWs ) went on I thought she was great. Have you seen Boardwalk Empire on HBO yet ? That is my new obsession.

    • quincyil says:

      I loved Rome. Atia is now on Caprica 2 on the Syfy channel on Tues.

      Atia was coniving and controlling. She also lost in love and used her sexual powers. I agree Camille and Atia in that show are alike.

  85. TLM says:

    Allison DB needs serious therapy for the anger and alcohol issues. Wonder if many people will be hiring her after this.

  86. TLM says:

    How much do you get to jack up your fee as a so-called medium when you finish each sentence with, “Know that.” I bet that’s good for at least an extra $50.

  87. Maryann says:

    Thanks Quincy, I hope you meant the sentiment. I decided to add my middle name since you were so curious about my first name. (Felt like I was in a theology class!) First name Mary, second name Ann.

    No one calls me Mary Ann – but I get MA from my kids! 🙂 Happy Holidays.

  88. LynnNChicago says:

    From Twitter:

    @JillZarin: TO: @lisagastineau I always have your back. And my evil eye to protect me. But had big flood in apt. today. So upset. Disaster.

  89. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @LynnNchicago, what? I’m just learning to speak Twitter but did this bitch just say she is protected by an evil eye? No wonder she had the whole forgive/atone concept all screwed up…

    • Noelle says:

      @TLD,
      JMO but I think you spoke Twitter when you were born (along with Spanish and French!)…please! ;D
      Merry Christmas and A Very Happy New Year to you!
      May Santa bring you a loaded satchel of your favorite shoes, and you take a picture to post; while US shoe fanatics drool over it!
      Wishing you prosperity in 2011!

    • Buffywood says:

      Hi TLD, I too have an evil eye for protection. I am not sure of its origins but 15 years ago when I was pregnant my best friend’s mom got one for me in Greece. They are a VERY Greek family and her parents really don’t speak English very well. The story is that her mother got me an evil eye while in Greece, and then traveled 2 days (they have a house on one of the outer islands) to get it personally blessed by a bishop there. It was to protect me and my baby from harm. To this day it is still one of my favorite pieces of jewelry.

  90. LynnNChicago says:

    http://thebloggess.com/?p=9474

    If you don’t already read this blog, she is beyond hysterical but what she’s done for Christmas is really amazing, people like this blow me away with their generosity. I wish I had thought of it. The comments will make you cry, be prepared 🙂

  91. Adgirl says:

    Camille smirking when all hell broke loose. Wow.
    She piled the wood ont the hearth and waited for the alcohol to spontaneously combust.

  92. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi Noelle. How is your family & u ? I have missed our late night chats but I can’t stay up anymore. I have already nodded off 2Xs.
    Hugs !

    • Noelle says:

      I’ve missed our late night talks too.
      Lot’s of family from out of town for the holiday’s, Overall it’s lovely.
      Merry Christmas to you and WSM and may 2011 be healthy, well and prosperous for you both.
      xoxo

  93. justanothermary says:

    I’m still perplexed by Camcam’s comment about Faye’s lips – WTF? With her botox and cheek implants! Pot, meet Kettle!

  94. justanothermary says:

    Someone needs to educate me on this. I’ve always worn my wrinkles like badges of honor. Each was hard won and proof a life fully lived. Am I so wrong? I kinda like the fact that I can express myself with a facial expression when words escape me. I’m going to keep each and everyone one of them. I do moisturize and wear sun screen (the Irish are very prone to sun damage) but I don’t think I’d ever go so far as to have them erased.

    • Noelle says:

      I’m coming over just to hug you!

      Merry Christmas to you, Virg and family!
      Hope the New Year is full of nothing but GOOD for YOU and your family.
      Sending my love…next year I’m getting that card from the: Virg n’ Mary!! xo

    • quincyil says:

      Mary, you and I are lucky because we live in areas of the country where wrinkles are not looked down upon. In California in the circles of these women, no one allows their face to get wrinkled. Part of it is the sense that women have to be young to be attractive. The plastic surgeons aggressively advertise too. Youthful skin, being thin, and designer clothes is all they know.

      I am with you. I am aging, but trying to be as healthy as I can be. Irish skin does wrinkle. It’s all of that laughter and smiling.

      • justanothermary says:

        And drinking?

        I do feel lucky to be in the midwest and to have a husband who looks at me and still sees the 23 year old he met so many years ago.

  95. Wall St Lady says:

    JAMary
    Why do u think Camille has cheek
    Implants ?

    • justanothermary says:

      Her cheeks just look too high and misshapen at times. Every now and then they show an angle of her face that really makes me believe those cheeks are not real. It’s not as obvious as Taylor’s, but still . . .

  96. emily says:

    2 things to say about Dinner from Hell and then Im off to bed.

    a) WWSMD? – What would Sonja Morgan do? Seriously what would she have done if she was at that table?? She is very classy and i think very savvy in her interpersonal relations. She was able to difuse KKB on scary island. How would she have diffused Allison DuFraud?

    b) Even though I hate to admit this, I was imagining what I would say to Allison in my head and this just kept playing over and over: “Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true!” Even JZ would have diffused that witch better than what ended up happening.

  97. Wall St Lady says:

    Allison was particularly crass & violent with the cigarette statements. She is a vile woman;
    A perfect friend for Camille.
    Wasn’t the other “seat of honor” for her paid friend.
    That friend looked like the poor relation. You would think Camille would have loaned her some of her VAST wardrobe. She looked like pitiful pearl.

  98. Noelle says:

    I think Cami started from a good place. Inviting the girls to dinner (she’s so rich, even Bravo doubted f’ing with her??!) was a good thing. I doubt it but, it equalled Ratings gold!!

    Andy’s show(WWHL) perhaps unseating a late night show, no way! I adore Andy, but what a horrible host!

  99. Noelle says:

    Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to everyone!
    See you next year!

  100. Noelle says:

    @Kat,
    Merry Christmas!!
    xo

  101. Adgirl says:

    Maybe The Countess can answer this question: Why did Camille seat her friends right next to her, flanking her at the head of the table??
    I know she said they were her guests of honor but they came off as her bodyguards. Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to scatter them with the other guests so everyone would sit next to someone they didn’t know (to encourage conversation)?

    It came off as a contrived effort to safeguard Camille. (Really?)

    • Noelle says:

      She surrounded (Camille) herself with a friend and paid help. It’s her house.
      Kyle chose to bring a friend. Kyle could have declined.
      C’mon now…Faye Resnick made a boat-load of cash off of Nicole Brown-Simpson death!…(more and more and then some)that’s your friend Kyle, you’re outraged because Cami brought it up(Playboy) but you’re pissed because you know it’s true!
      I don’t like Camille but I now know I despise Kyle.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Whatever you think of Faye Resnick, it is inappropriate to make rude comments to a guest in your home. Period.

        • quincyil says:

          Yes. I could be cordial to Saddam Hussein if he was my dinner guest. I would be very upset with my husband if he invited Saddam Hussein thoug.

          • Had Enough! says:

            I wouldn’t know what to say to a dead guy at my table, but I wouldn’t be rude.

          • vilzvet says:

            I had to look Faye up, I had forgotten her story, which apparently was to write a couple of books about her best friendship with Nicole Simpson. The books got very mixed reviews on Amazon, I guess she’s not as good a friend as everyone had thought. (Wasn’t Kris Kardashian Nicole’s best friend, anyway?)

  102. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~
    Finally caught up with Fashion Show Jersey Wives & OC Wives~
    Not as humorous as I thought it would be..Teresa’s hair looked like it hadn’t been washed in a week or more~the dresses eh..Dina’s was alright except for the spare tire she looked like was around her. 😉 Caroline’s just made it~was awful before dark blue around the first elf costume.
    Missed BH Wives~again lol
    Bravo used to have full episodes of shows from the night before on their site but now they make you wait & wait.
    That dinner from the previews is exactly one of the reasons I am happy not to be drinking anymore 😉
    Just wanted to say hello before reading all the comments & blog~a lot to go through.
    Going to VFW Club to help tonight~they have karioke on Friday nights~I should know how to spell that by now.

  103. Had Enough! says:

    Sometimes it blows my mind how much your opinion can be changed in a few minutes. I never liked the Osmonds, Donny & Marie, the whole sickly sweet, we’re so good, pop music thing they did. Boring at best, icky at worst.

    Marie Osmond walks onto WWHL last night, looking fantastic – it took me a second to figure out who she was. She was smart and funny, great actress, obviously knows music (I always thought she had perfect pitch). Just blew me away. Was this the same person I’d dismissed as fluff all these years? I think she’s underused her talent. I would have loved to see her in comedic and serious films.

  104. Had Enough! says:

    Lynn has an easy job with this recap:

    1. Alison DuBois is beyond nasty bitch. Would call her a poor excuse for a human being, but she isn’t even that. Plus weird and creepy. And a total fraud. Worst person ever to appear on a HoWife show. By a mile. Changing name of blog.
    2. Camille is a sick bitch.
    3. Kyle was mean to her sister. And looked good.
    4. Adrienne and Lisa have class. And looked good.
    5. Taylor and Kim – what exactly are they fighting about? But they looked good.

    • vilzvet says:

      Oohh, the tweets to the vile beyotch are about 99 to 1 negative. They are a hoot. She cannot be a happy camper today. I just don’t ever want to see that face of hers again onscreen. And by the way, a Nick-less episode? Was he hurt he wasn’t invited to the ladies’ dinner, LOL?!

  105. Had Enough! says:

    Even Taylor doesn’t know what she and Kim are fighting about:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/exclusive-video-interview-beverly-hills-real-housewives-taylor-armstrong-dishes

    Sorry to be all Kyle here, but Kim is just a total sad sack. She needs counseling big time. She’s a total drag and while I feel sorry for her, I wouldn’t want to hang out with her either. And when I re-watched the airport scene, I did think that Kim was stirring the shit and trying to get Taylor to get into cat-talk about the Ex Mrs. KG. And then she pinned it on Taylor.

    But even before that, Kim’s nose was all out of joint because Taylor – who was a total stranger – was, in Kim’s sad view (talk about insecure!), not warm enough to her at the basketball game. That’s pretty much all there is between Kim and Taylor, and Kim is making a career out of it.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      Hi Sweetie~
      I have an older sister who has been extremely mean to me & my mama & everyone she can take advantage of. She also is on some hard drugs. I tried to help her & my nephew who was waiting for a kidney transplant by bringing them down here from PA. I didn’t find out until they came down here that they were both doing meth & whatever else they could get their hands on. She chose the drugs over me. My nephew was born with only half a kidney 23 yrs ago because my sister was doing coke & drinking. He lost 1 transplant when he was 16 because he was using meth & thought he didn’t have to take the medicine required to keep the new kidney. He was down here with her & on dialysis & was about to get a new kidney again. I went upstairs to their apt. because we were sharing this duplex at the time & went to wake him & he had died. He had just turned 21. She is still on drugs but has moved to TN & hasn’t spoken to me in 3 yrs. I miss her so much sometimes but then I remember that she also seemed to picked drugs & her friends over family every time. Sometimes things happen in families that no one knows about so they assume one sister is being mean for no reason.

      • Adgirl says:

        BaaBee that is so sad! My ex got hooked on meth through work (he was in contruction on the night shift) and it changes your brain. He was really acting weird which clued me in on his problem.
        Lucky for us an intervention took but meth is extremely scarey and nearly impossible to shake. Don’t they call it white boy crack?
        You are a great model for your sister. You went through a lot just trying to help her and her son. It wasn’t your fault that they were hooked on drugs.
        She may come around. I am familiar with “the steps” and letting go. I will pray for you & your family. I wish I had a sister, mean or nice. Maybe you will adopt me.

        • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

          Adgirl I would love to have you as my sister~
          This time of yr is very difficult as it is for a lot of us.
          My papa also was an alcoholic & was not the best father in the world to say the least~I also have a brother in WI & a sister still in NYC but they don’t speak to me or my mama because they blame her for not divorcing my papa when we were young because of all the abuse. Anyway I feel like an only child these days & my poor mama tries not to think about it too much. We talk 3 times a day on the phone & Allan & I visit her at least once a week if not more. Thankfully she only lives 5 minutes away. Allan lost everyone in his immediate family too. He lost his mama about 7 yrs ago & she was all he had. He has 1 step brother & 1 step sister that live here in KY but we don’t see them either.
          I would never be mean to you~did you say your birthday is same month? So many comments from sweeties I cannot remember who said what sometimes.
          I would be thrilled to have you as my real sister.
          Thank You~
          As far as the one on meth in TN, I just don’t even know what to think anymore but I thank you so much for your kind words. They mean so much to me.

  106. Had Enough! says:

    Great line from Taylor:

    “I don’t think people tune into Real Housewives of Beverly Hills to watch Pin the Tail on the Donkey.”

    Tru dat!

    Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b215495_beverly_hills_housewife_taylor.html#ixzz18NJpuRTu

  107. Noelle says:

    Back from airport…What a f***ing mess!
    My hubby and eldest flew out…we were all good to go out for 3 days…tickets in hand, requirements met and then…”We only have seats for two…”..
    Sorry I was all ;&*#^%!! and $%#@@^&*(%(&^, by the way….**&&%^^%%%$# and #@!@!@!!!@!!@!
    They (airline) could care less!

    • Adgirl says:

      Wha?? You didn’t get to on the trip with your family? That’s crazy.

      • Noelle says:

        It’s three days that I’m pissed about!

        Those are people I really wanted to see; Am confidant hubby and first born will do just fine!
        (Where’s WSL with that Southern courtesy book anyway?)
        😉

  108. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @BuffyWood, no direspect to you but evil can NEVER = good. Evil means bad. To carry a symbol of evil is to invite bad things into your life. I respect other cultures and religion but if someone offered me an evil eye I would have politely decline. I will only embrace positive energy for protection.

  109. butterisafruit says:

    I’ve had the chance to meet with mediums. Not for hire but as regular guests at gatherings.
    Most don’t want to share their gifts on social settings. Actually they’re quite reticent.
    I think it’s because they don’t want to be taunted or prove themselves. However ever one I’ve met has made it quite clear. If a seer or medium is giving you uncomfortable or sad news, walk away. This person is not for you. Often we they will have to give a little warning but it’s followed with a positive approach. The woman last night was dark and hateful. She belonged next to Camille. They feed off each other.

    And when your guests are so uncomfortable and upset enough to leave the table. You rise and escort them to the door apologizing, and thank them for coming. You don’t remain on your throne laughing at their misery.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And when one of your guests says you’ve got two legs so leave….you apologize for that behavior and stop it immediately. We were treated to “scary island” BH style and it wasn’t even close to crazy or scary.

  110. Dani says:

    When th fight in NY came up at Camille’s dinner it was the perfect time for Kim to tell everyone that she was there during the conversation and Kyle did not say what Camille is saying she did. I can understand Kyle being upset at Kim. Why bring up the airport conversation? If she wanted to get into the action why not tell everyone what she heard. I just think Kim has no personality and she always acts like poor me. I don’t like to be around people like that and I am sure it gets old for Kyle.

    I will say keeping up with the conversations at the dinner was difficult. I watched it 3 times. Ok, maybe it wasn’t that difficult I just wanted to see if again and again as it was so entertaining lol.

  111. HD says:

    I am soooooooooo trying to save my comments for the new blog. Last night was a boiling hot mess. I can’t wait until Lynn gives her take on it so I can add my two cents. That medium, honeyyyyyyyy chilllllllllleeeee, she is certifiable right along with Camille!

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