IHJZ – Guest Blog – The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and The Art of War

I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and The Art of War – A Guest Blog

Quincy IL’s fascinating take on the Dinner Party War hosted by Camille Grammer:

The Art of War

The Battle of Malibu

A few weeks ago, Camille Grammer put down her book and the camera pans at the title: “The Art of War” a Chinese military treatise thought to be written by Sun Tzu in the 6th Century BC. This manual for warfare is used by the military today as well as top business schools as it lays the plans for achieving goals set our by nations and corporations. The following is an attempt to take the Malibu Dinner Party into the War Room and assess the damage that has been done to the friendships of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills using the principles found in “The Art of War.”

Laying the Plans of War

Camille speaks to her friend and hairdresser De De about a dinner party that she has planned for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She tells De De that Taylor seems genuine and shrugs her shoulders. De De suggests that she is surprised that Camille wants to invite the ladies, but adds that Camille can control the situation a little bit more in her home. Camille laughs. De De wants to meet the ladies, but she has already told us that Kyle is “pathetic” so her openness seems to be a sea change. At a luncheon with Taylor, Camille discusses the dinner party and mentions that one of her guests will be a medium, Allison Dubois. Allison will be a guest at the party and she will not be there to read minds, but she “hits on people.” Camille hopes that Allison will not get drunk because she hits below the belt a little bit. The ladies of BH receive phone invitations and the stage is set. Kyle has an appointment with a friend and asks if that friend might come. Camille seems to welcome the guest. The guest is Faye Resnick. Bravo does not let us know that Camille knows who this guest is at this time. We learn of her identity when Kyle’s hairdresser, Pamela comes to the Kyle’s home. We learn that Faye Resnick, a close friend of murder victim Nicole Brown Simpson is Kyle’s best friend and confidant.

The Plans of Attack

Camille, De De and Allison are drinking on an outside patio at Grammer Manor. Allison states that she waited until she got to the party for a cocktail. Camille states, “I got your text to be prepared.” Allison lifts her glass and says, “Here’s to new friends.” De De says, “To new friends.” Camille smiles and says, “New friends who are already out the door.” They all laugh. Allison touches De De on the arm quietly. (We see that they have shared information that they are not sharing with us.)

Two stretch limos take five Real Housewives of Beverly Hill and one guest to the Malibu mansion belonging to Camille and Kelsey Grammer. Kyle tells the ladies that she does not want any problem or drama. Faye says, “If she is mean to you, I’m obviously not going to watch her…..” Kim rolls her eyes. Lisa, Taylor, and Adrienne arrive to meet Camille, De De and a medium, Allison, on an outdoor patio. The ladies are introduced to each other. De De tells everyone that Allison is a medium and the television show Medium is based on her. None of the women seem to know of this show or of Allison, but everyone is pleasant. Allison, the medium did not receive a memo with the dress code as the ladies are in cocktail attire and she is in tan slacks, a top and an old sweater. (She must have missed those vibes.) Allison makes a statement that she helps solve serial murders and the ladies are impressed. Allison wants them to know that it is a real job. Lisa says, “Oh, really, gosh, I must watch it (referring to the television show.) Kyle, Faye and Kim arrive and false kisses follow. Camille greets Faye, leans over a small table, turns and gives a look that could kill to the camera.

Tactical Dispositions

The ladies go into the house for more cocktails. Allison tells Adrienne that “I hope they bring a pitcher for us, we are having a girl’s night.” Adrienne looks down at Allison’s almost empty glass. Both Lisa and Adrienne tell us how strong and unusually large the drinks are.

The ladies go to the dining room and Camille takes the head of the table with her two close friends on her right and left flanks. Kyle says, “Let’s chat, love and have fun.”
Camille and her two friends click drinks together. Allison is next to Adrienne. She announces” I am still young so when Sat. gets here, I’m like, “Yeah,” what are we going to do?” Adrienne looks confused. Allison continues, “It’s a girl’s night. We are not supposed to be good. We are supposed to be really bad. She holds her drink up in a toasting position. Camille laughs with a gasp of air. Kyle scowls and takes a drink. Adrienne tells us that she thinks the medium is strange, but that is expected for someone who talks to dead people. Allison says, “The love they (the dead) have is stronger than anything we can imagine.”

Weak Points/Strong Points

Allison compliments the ladies by telling them that they are alpha females, “intelligent and pretty.” There is silence. Then Adrienne makes a toast to alpha females. Everyone laughs.

Camille asks Kyle, “How do you know Faye? Who is Faye? I don’t know who Faye is?”
Kyle tells Camille that Faye is a family friend, like a sister. Camille puts her index finger in the air to point and says, “I saw her naked in “Playboy” that’s how I know Faye.” Kim in an interview mocks Camille for pretending that she just opened the pages last week. Camille continues, “She posed naked in “Playboy” after the OJ trial pointing her index finger again for emphasis. In an interview, Lisa questions if this is calculated. She tells us that she would not say that to a guest. Camille adds, “I thought you looked amazing.” Camille waves her finger while speaking again. In an interview, Camille pretends that she did not recognize Faye because of Faye’s hair extensions and blown up fake lips. “It’s Faye Resnick, the morally corrupt Faye Resnick,” Camille continues, “I loved your spread.” De De adds off camera, “Literally.” Everyone laughs. Faye states that she didn’t spread. Kyle asks Camille if she did “Playboy.” Camille is taken aback and says that she did a supplement and that is how she met Kelsey. She did lingerie, not pose naked. In an interview, Camille’s defends her “Playboy” photos as a youthful indiscretion. Kyle tells us that people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks and Camille threw a boulder.


Camille reminds everyone that Allison is “off the clock” and is a guest at the party. Lisa tells us in an interview that people always ask the doctor for advice at a party. Kyle says to Faye, “She’s off the clock, maybe I should have brought my credit card.” They laugh. Camille tells everyone that readings are best in private and one on one because personal stuff comes up and adds “If someone’s husband is cheating……” Allison lifts her glass for a toast and smiles. We hear laughter, but it is not coming from Kyle. Allison smiles and appears to be the aggressor. Kyle asks if Allison can say something not scary. With a smile, Allison says that it might be irritating to you. Camille has an almost blank expression as she waits for Allison to continue. Finally, Camille tells Allison, “Just say it, she’s fine.” Allison pounces, “have you been married twice?” Kyle says, “Yes.” Allison seems somewhat surprised because she was going to tell Kyle that she would have two marriages. Allison then embellishes and says that Kyle’s husband may leave. Kyle replies, “If my husband ever leaves, I am going with him.” The table reacts with shock at these statements by Allison. There is dead silence. Kim thinks that Kyle will jump across the table, but she Kyle just turns away and is upset. Allison is smiling and she announces, “People don’t see, then it’s, Oh my God,” She sits back in her chair and smiles while staring at a distraught Kyle. Camille tells us in an interview that Kyle pushed Allison who had had a few drinks. “I begged her (Kyle) not to go there.” Bravo never shows us Camille’s begging


Allison tells Kyle that Kyle is more comfortable with men and that she has to make friends with females. We hear voices disagreeing with that. Camille says that she is more comfortable with men and defensive with catty women. Kyle shares that this might have been part of the problem in NYC. Kyle repeats that she had no ill intensions. Faye and Allison argue over Allison’s claim that she was not told about the incident in NYC. Allison is seething now. She tells Faye to let Kyle fight her own battles. Faye attacks Allison’s close friendship with Camille. Allison says to Faye, “If Camille needs my help, she will tell me.” (She a medium and she can’t sense this?) Kim whispers welcome to NYC to Adrienne.

Attack by Fire

Kyle feels she has lost the conflict. Her head is down. Faye comments, “There was an attack on my friend.” Faye points to Kyle. Camille cries out, “Wait a second!”
Camille claims that Faye only knows what Kyle told her in Beverly Hills while De De knows what Camille told her in NYC so De De is a more trustworthy source. (Illogical Argument) Allison starts to shout, but Kyle answers, “I am not talking to you, I am talking to Camille.” Allison retorts, “Excuse me, you are boring me.” She turns her head away from Kyle and smiles. Kyle tells Allison that she is “off the clock.” Allison tells the planet that Kyle is washed up. Faye says, “I’m so bored.” Allison says that Faye has two legs the last time we checked and you can walk. (She used Intelligence and spied here. Camille and Allison have implied that they recently saw the “Playboy” spread.)

Kyle to Allison, “You are not interesting to me.” Allison calls back, “You have achieved nothing in your life.” Kyle states that she has four beautiful children and Allison responds with a turn of her head and a drag on an electronic cigarette. Allison is sitting back and smiling. She has a look of contentment on her face. Taylor tells us that the table is a tornado. She asks Adrienne to stop the insanity, but Adrienne is silent. Kim tells Taylor to do it herself and begins to argue with Taylor. Camille now sits back and she looks calm and content. Taylor stands and yells, “Enough, Enough.” She tells them to get up from the table. Camille and her two best friends remain seated and smiling. As Kyle is preparing to leave Camille states, “I don’t have a problem with you Kyle.” Kyle tells Camille that she thought that Kyle said something other than what she said. Allison is indignant. She, the medium who reads thoughts, tells everyone that Kyle can’t read Camille’s thoughts. Kyle responds, “I am not talking to you, Allison.” Allison said that Kyle saves stories and tweaks them. Allison attacks Kyle again, “You are nothing. You have done nothing.” Camille shushes Allison quietly. Allison defiantly comments, “My dad says live life large and make no apologies for who you are. I can tell you when she will die and what will happen to her family. I love that about me.” De De smiles and nods. Camille laughs. Allison suggests sticking her electronic cigarette up Kyle’s ass and Camille laughs. Allison continues, “Bitch is a one syllable word for a reason, it all they understand.” Allison is so vindictive that she would not use her gifts to save one of their children if something happened to one of them.

Moving the Force

The other ladies are in the yard where it is dark. They are upset and confused. The sprinklers turn on and they move as a group (like Keystone cops.) Kim is sent home alone and the other women retreat to Beverly Hills.

“All warfare is based on deception.” This is a quote from “The Art of War.” It is obvious to me that Camille, De De and Allison, the medium shared information before this event took place. The touching of the arm and cryptic sentences are evidence that there were plans discussed. Camille mentions the text message from Allison telling Camille to be prepared. Allison had a plan. She was going to destroy Kyle Richards on national TV as Camille has been destroyed in NYC at dinner. The plan was to get everyone very drunk and to allow Allison to tell Kyle that her marriage was in danger. One problem that they encountered was the lack of intelligence/failure of espionage when they did not know that Kyle was on her second marriage. The plan was to dismiss Kyle’s worth by telling her that she was washed up as an actress and her marriage was a sham. They intentionally attempted to make us believe that Mauricio was having affairs either with a nanny or with other women.

Intelligence Gathering

“If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him.” (The Art of War) Kyle certainly has a temper and will respond to taunts. By attacking Faye, Kyle’s dearest friend, Kyle’s marriage, and Kyle’s motherhood; Kyle was thrown off guard and Camille, being calm won according to her rules of engagement.

Kyle should remain wary of interaction with Camille Grammer.

On “Watch What is Happening Live,” Camille called into the show with a very specific apology concerning the accusation that Mauricio, Kyle’s husband was unfaithful. She did not apologize for the plans she had made with Allison, the medium, and De De to destroy Kyle Richards the night of her party on national TV. There is always forensic evidence at the scene of a crime and in wars. Camille, Allison and De De won the battle and lost the war in the eyes of a public who paid attention to their words and body language.

Great Job Quincy, Thanks for the wonderful guest blog!

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If you click around the site you’ll also find my profiles of Camille Grammer and Lisa Vanderpump.

Real City Housewife posted her hysterical blog on RHOBH:
RCH – The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills – I Decided Which One Is The Most Insane, And It’s Allison Dubois: http://t.co/0Zg7C0G

Really Old Housewife has posted hers as well:


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346 Responses to IHJZ – Guest Blog – The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and The Art of War

  1. Wall St Lady says:

    I watch Medium (now reruns after 7 seasons) w/Patricia Arquette & I love it.
    Arquette is married to an awesome hub who is always supporting her as she usually wakes up in a cold sweat in his loving arms. She usually has her visions in her sleep. Her visions never give her the answer to her crimes but clues. Many visions are the future but some r past scenes.
    After a vision the investigative work begins. She is a consultant in the Phoenix AZ DA’s office. She states what she saw in her vision because she Does Not have the conclusion/interpretation until she proves it and this takes time & investigative work . Additionally she has 3 bond,precious,
    daughters. The oldest has the gift/curse too (as described by Mom,DaD & daughter). Arquette on the show is a mother and wife
    first. On the show Arkquette is about as wholesome as you can get. Arkquette would NEVER smoke;I haven’t ever even seen her drink. The family constantly struggles financially & moral decisions that build character r always chosen over immoral shortcuts. Arquette is given visions she can’t choose them ie get race results in advance. There has NEVER been a marital indiscretion or even a curse word. I have seen women be mean or rude to Arquette & she has a “turn the other cheek” attitude.
    So Allison (friend of Camille) among all her other qualities of rudeness,meanness,evil,fashion victim,is a delusion al liar. The only similarity to the TV character is the name & job title.
    I believe Camille’s friend is Medium’ model about as far as I could throw her. If the show hadn’t of been canceled after 7 years, I wouldn’t have been surprised if the producers made some kind of statement since Camille’s side kick’ behavior defamed their family show !
    The question to ask tuna breath is if her ugly a$$ was invited to see Arquette receive her Emmy as female lead at the 20O5 Emmy Awards !
    I am sure that the vomitaceous louse was there in a vision from her pact w/the devil. Yes the devil fooled her then along w/her prayer to have mystic powers.
    Stay away ; she is EVIL.

    • Adgirl says:

      The “Medium” producers are the Grammers so there won’t be any blow back.

      I suppose Camille is getting Allison in the divorce.

    • Error404 says:

      All 3 kids have “the gift” and Allison has been shown drinking an occasional beer.

      Real life Allison seems to have no such job with the da as far as I can tell.

    • California35 says:

      I watch medium also, and I too share your view about the two Alisons. Not the same.

    • twoile says:

      @WSL I agree wholeheartedly……….definately the Real “A” vs studio “A” are diametrically opposed, I too enjoyed the show, but now that I realize it isn’t based on fact just BS I’m disappointed, but still think the show was/is entertaining.

  2. debbie says:

    Perfect recap, Quincy.. You simply stated the facts as they happened, nothing could be interpreted as biased. You described things clearly and objectively. I only viewed this episode once so it was helpful to me

  3. Adgirl says:

    @Quincy – another great blog! I have no idea how you and Lynn have time to write these sensational recaps!

    Camille is really amatuerish in her manipulations (she won’t be winning the Machiavellic award) isn’t she? The quality of her girlfriends reveals a lot about her personality too. Sychophants, and not very interesting or nice people at that.
    But they all know how to use Google “Faye Resnick … OJ trial, Playboy”, “Kim Richards … marriage, movie database”.
    Too bad they didn’t keyword search “Psychic… trailer trash, AA programs in Arizona”.

    I kept laughing about Allison being distrcted by all of the invisible dead people all over Camille’s dining room. Who are they? Why are there so many dead people at Camille and Kelsey’s recently built house?
    What a fraud.

    Allison belongs with the Giudices and Salahi grifter pile.

    Thanks for the great write up!!

    • quincyil says:

      Allison is surely the professional warrior here. I have no doubt that the plan was to claim Allison was drunk and therefore not responsible for what she was doing to Kyle. I think Camille was told by Kyle that the friend was Faye and that she didn’t want Faye in her house. She knew that she could not get Kyle to come without Faye, but having the immoral Faye in her palace was infuriating. I think she called Allison and a plot unfolded. I don’t think they planned for us to be able to see what happened. We have to thank the Bravo producers for that. We were shown the women on that patio and we were shown the set up with Taylor at the restaurant. I think Kyle did not know she was walking into the spider’s web although she was worried about it enough to discuss it with her hairdresser and Faye in the limo. I’m glad that the ladies from BH did not get drunk. It could have been worse. I think all of Allison’s, It’s Sat and we should be very bad was an effort to get those women to drink more. It must have been disappointing when Lisa, Adrienne and others switched to the dark soda.

      I wish I knew how to contact Kyle and get her to read this blog because I am not sure she knows what she was up against at the dinner party. It disturbs me greatly that Mauricio was accussed of infidelity with a nanny and other women. He does not deserve this. He is obviously a loving husband and loving father.

      I think Camille, De De and Allison went to Kyle’s wikipedia page where the oldest daughter is listed as Mauricio’s child. I saw that in other places on the net too. Kyle was married and had the oldest daughter when she was young and later met her second husband. The Medium’s game was to abuse Kyle tell her that she would have a second marriage. However, their research was wrong and Kyle was in her second marriage. Huge failure in research there.

      One of our board members speculated that the fight in Vegas had something to do with Kyle and Maricio. Kyle and Adrienne did not like the way Camille was behaving at the pool and they made fun of her. Later, the women didn’t like the way Camille was dancing in front of their husbands. Camille remembered all of these slights. Off camera, Kyle and Camille had a long, long fight. I think that Camille is upset about a lot more than “Is Kelsey not going to be with you in Hawaii?” Camille wanted to hit Kyle at her most vunerable point which is her marriage. She may have heard Kyle talk about babies as we have heard her. Both Kim and Kyle say stuff about children. Camille probably heard them at times bickering about marriage. The most cutting comments come when people play your own words back to you. We see that here on the boards when people are in attack modes. Husbands are very good at this too. I bet everyone will agree with that observation.

      Over and over in the housewife series something that you said in the past is the reason for future conflict. I don’t think Andy realized that this is gold for continuing drama, but if you watch people it is so true.

      If I was Kyle, I would not film with Camille again. The other ladies have not been targets yet, but they might be in the future.

      • jezzibel says:

        I’m so sticking with my theory that Camille made a pass at Kyle’s husband when they were in Las Vegas and Maurico’s turned her down, and the comments she made about him being unfaithful are nothing more then the alligations of a woman scorned.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I’m inclined to this theory as well – Camielle sees Kyle’s husband as someone who works for her and therefore he should be attentive to her flirtations.

          • jezzibel says:

            Akoms razor..the simplest explination is probably the correct one.
            I don’t think Camille is the type that would take the rejection of a lowly Beverly Hills realtor who genuinly loved his wife very well to say the least.

          • twoile says:

            @WCW agreed & much like Nick who allows himself to be mauled;0)

        • quincyil says:

          I wished I had remembered who came up with that. Thanks for writing here. I wanted to give you credit.
          I hadn’t thought of it before I read your post and then, “click,” it began to piece together.

          I remember a couple of comments about that fight. I think Kim said it was really long and that Kyle cried on the plane on the way back from Vegas. Note, Camille was supposedly quiet and did not cry. The plot to destroy Kyle was probably being born on that plane.

          • California35 says:

            Wait, what? I don’t remember a Vegas fight. I do remember Camille’s attempt to get the husband’s attention though. I need to catch that episode.

            • quincyil says:

              I think we know about the fight from interviews and comments by the ladies. It is not on tape. There was a blog from the producer on bravotv.com that you might wish to read concerning this.

            • kitkat says:

              I also remember Camille leaving the Vegas “hang-out party” early…before Taylor left. There was speculation that she was running off to meet up with Nick, but Nick’s wife was there…so looking back on it now, she may have been pissed that Mauricio subtley spurned her. He’s a classy guy and can certainly send a discreet message that he’s “not interested” in playing games with her. Somebody as INSECURE as Camille would certainly be affronted by that, esp. as she is surrounded by ass-lickers all day.

        • floridagirl88 says:

          I agree. Knowing what we now know, those predictions of Allison’s were true for Camille, not Kyle. It’s Camille sho is the jealous one. She looks at Kyle and sees her with a hot husband and great kids, a bickering but loving family, real friends. What does Camille have? An abundance of riches and no one who loves her or is willing to be around her without payment. She is such a sad, pathetic shell of a woman.

        • Powell says:

          Camille’s problems with Kyle is that she is jealous of Kyle’s life with Mauricio and when Kyle asked about Hawaii, Camille was sensitive to the fact that Kelsey did not want to be with her and she knew it deep down. Read Camille’s blog on Bravo from the week before last and she is finally honest where she states she didn’t listen to Kelsey when he told her HE wanted to move to NYC permanently.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I agree with you that the whole stage was set. I think the swipe Camille took at Faye was the signal for Allison that “Operation Art of War” was in full effect.

        But the ‘nanny’ thing at the end did make me a bit curious. It didn’t come across as some sort of fake prediction of Allison’s. It sounded like they were repeating some sort of gossip they heard.

        Coming of the heels of Kyle revealing that the ‘nanny’ just up and vanished in the middle of the night without a word being said, I wouldn’t doubt if maybe they (Camille) didn’t hear something through the grapevine and either made assumptions or perhaps there is some validity to the rumor.

        It wouldn’t be the first time that we have heard about someone running off with the nanny, although I’m not suggesting that Mauricio is actually guilty of cheating on his wife. From all appearances he is a loving father and husband and doesn’t give off any sort of red flags that something is wrong in the relationship ( unlike Combat Camille) but at the same time I feel there must of been some sort weird dynamic in that household for the nanny just to abruptly leave that way she did.

        Maybe it was something Kyle said or did, maybe she felt like she was being exploited…but there has to be more to that story than we are being told.

        • quincyil says:

          The full time “blank” disappeared and Kyle was talking about babysitting while she went to Napa. Hmmmm…
          If you had Kyle and those kids, you’d be stupid to do something with the nanny. This was probably the BH gossip mill at its best.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            ITA about how stupid it would be for Mauricio to cheat- for many reasons.

            But for the most part when men do cheat, it doesn’t seem like they trade up in looks department. Robin Williams cheat on his first wife with their sons nanny and she is pretty ordinary looking, the same thing as Kelsey Grammars ‘fiance’ (what is it with some of these men e.g. Kelsey, Big Poppa ect getting engaged again before they are even divorced from their wifes?).

            That’s not to say I beleive Mauricio actually did cheat, I don’t.

            I am actually more inclined to beleive that Camille was paying the ‘blank’ off for information so that she could dig up more dirt on Kyle. I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past Camille Grammar including her believing that anyone who works for her has to “service” her in numerous ways.

        • twoile says:

          @ RR could the nanny have overstayed her VISA?

          • twoile says:

            @RR should have indicated that the quick leave taking may have been initiated by the cameras & her fear of exposure.

            • quincyil says:

              Oh….. that is so true…

            • American Idiot says:

              twoile, I thought of that too. If the nanny/housefkeeper was undocumented, she may have been afraid of being found out or advised to leave by someone in her family.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                Maybe, but I wouldn’t want to presume that all domestic help is “undocumented”. Camille’s nannies didn’t seem to have a concern with being on camera nor did the Belino nannies- or Zolia for that matter.

                None of really know what exactly happened but clearly something must have happened because sudden and unexplained midnight departures aren’t normal.

        • kbinldo says:

          it was the live-in maid who left in the dead of night. I don’t think Kyle had nannies.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            She had to be more than just a ‘maid’ since her departure meant they didn’t have a babysitter for their weekend away.

            • American Idiot says:

              I think Kyle said that the babsitter cancelled, and she was counting on the housekeeper to watch the kids while she was away. Then when the housekeeper left, she had no one.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                I don’t think she refereed to the other person as the babysitter, I think she said “The lady who comes on Tuesdays” can’t do it.

                It would actually make more sense that they would have a housekeeper come by once a week (it’s not like they are living in a place the size of Lisa’s or Adrianne’s) and have a live in ‘mommy’s little helper’ who would help watch the kids, run errands and pick up a bit during the week.

        • kitkat says:

          I live in a neighborhood where a lot of people use nannies and babysitters and after school care providers. I know of so many stories about nannies et al, not showing up for work at the last min. and not even calling. Monday morning comes around and the person they rely on to be there as they rush off to work just doesn’t show up, doesn’t even call. It’s a very transient business and people are lucky if they find a nice, reliable person to be there for over 6 months. Same for live-ins.

        • Kristy says:

          She doesn’t even have nannies i know camille just assumes everyone does that its normal to get them packaged 2 to 1 but kyle and her husband don’t even employ nannies they do have a live in housekeeper but no nanny hmm maybe something the medium should have picked up on?

        • oldmaryjane says:

          Kyle has stated that she doesn’t have a nanny and never has . . . she takes care of her kids herself (which is more than what we can say about the plastic Camille who has FOUR nannies for two children from a surrogate mother, no less). Kyle was indeed referring to the babysitter she had arranged to stay at the house while she and her husband went to Napa for the weekend. Kyle and her sister Kim are committed mothers who believe in raising their children on their own. I don’t even know if Camille knows her children’s names.

      • dsc60 says:

        allison really isn’t quick thinking. if there really was a set up as believed, when she made the comment “have you been married twice”? and kyle said “yes,” allison should have said, “yeah well you’re going to be married three times.” and actually to be even more cutting she should have asked how many times Mauricio had been married and said that HE would be married again. for as evil as allison is, i’m shocked she that she blew it. guess she’s not smart enough to go off script.

      • Powell says:

        Kyle is on Facebook and Twitter Quincyil.

    • dsc60 says:

      i also read that her husband changed his name from George to Joe, her husband’s name in show, Medium.

  4. kbinldo says:

    As always, Quincy, great job!! Interesting to see the comparison between the dinner party & Art of War. 🙂

  5. TLM says:

    The above article is quite lengthy but worth it. leaves little doubt that DuBois is a fraud and when challenged, throws up her hands and says that’s the cross you have to bear as a psychic, and that she’s not perfect. I guess that would be ok as an excuse if there was any solid documentation that she ever helped solve a case. (There isn’t.) She says she’s not working with the police anymore (even though they say she never did) but no matter, she has money from the TV show, her books which seem to be full of inaccuracies and flat-out fabrications, and now she is teaching “classes” on how to be a medium. How do you teach something that you’re either born with or not? Perhaps she’s teaching them how to do the same thing she does: scam and double-talk people, and prey on the desperation of others.

    Fans of the TV show will find that the real DuBois was only an intern who did filing and never participated in solving cases. The DA who was in office during her internship doesn’t even remember her.

    • quincyil says:

      I have not seen a real person as mean as Allison on TV before. Why in the world would she say those things on camera? Lynn thinks that she was really drinking, but why no slurred speach or falling. She was as firmly in control of her muscles after the dinner as she was on the patio before the show started. If she was drunk, there would have been signs. The police pull people over and make them walk on a line. They can’t do it because they are drunk. There were two pitchers of drinks shown, but there could have been others without that amount of alcohol. I think the idea was to get the women falling down drunk like Tamara’s OC elegant party. The women were too smart for that. Camille wanted revenge here. De De feigned being nice.

      In my real life, I have met mean women, but I have never met someone like Allison. Of course, I don’t spend much time visiting inmates in prison.

      • Adgirl says:

        OMG good point. So maybe the intention was to get the other women drunk before Allison attacked, errm, “read” Kyle?

        On the other hand if Allison is big drinker maybe she doesn’t slur too badly. I know some people who can do that. I have no idea how.

        • quincyil says:

          Actually, they have to show some signs. Alcohol affects the nervous system and in turn the neuromuscular system. The studies show that there is impairment in judgement and physical imparment with small amounts of alcohol. If someone is really drunk, you will see them slowing down and they will not be as alert. Allison was the same in the end as in the beginning. I don’t think that is possible if she was really drinking all of the alcohol that the women and we observed her drinking. At one, point I noticed that the color of her drink was different from the color of the drinks in the glasses of two other ladies. Bravo also panned in on two pitchers. We won’t know if something was up, but I had a lot of drinkers in my family and even experienced drinkers show signs.

        • dsc60 says:

          it’s true. i know someone who could drink more than i ever thought possible, yet you would never know that he had more than one or two.

      • TLM says:

        The squint and and telling women, “You have two legs” was beyond rude. I wonder if she talks to her kids that way. Yes, this vile woman is actually married with 3 kids. Does anyone besides me wonder how vicious women like this attract men?

        Kyle reiterated to Camille, “If someone asks where you’re going for vacation and you HEAR that no one wants you without Kelsey, that IS delusional.” Which is just a fact- if that’s what was said and that’s what was heard, something is clearly wrong.

        DuBois responded by saying, “that is a really fucked up thing to say.” I found that ironic, since that’s what someone should have said exactly that to DuBois after she told Kyle in front of a room of people that her husband would never fulfill her and they would have nothing in common when her kids grew up. So I’ll say it. That was a really fucked up thing to say, Allison DuBois.

        I hope DuBois has saved her ill-gotten pennies, because after this show, I don’t know who will be hiring her or have anything to do with her. I guess she and Camille can hang out together and get drunk.

        • Adgirl says:

          Yes I wonder who sleeps with a woman like this and procreates with them.

          Anyone who marries her children needs their iQ tested.

  6. TrueLifeDiva says:

    They are still running that fluff piece on the psycho psychic on HLN I mentioned yesterday.

  7. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    Fantastic blog Quincy. You said everything that I felt or thought happened. The fact that Team Camille had a plan before any of this happened is pretty despicable in my eyes. At least Camille is smart enough to not say “I forgot my notes”.

    All Camille did was make sympathize with a cheating snake called Kelsey Grammer and I HATE cheaters. With him, it’s kind of understandable.

    • Adgirl says:

      After “getting to know” Camille I can’t imagine that Kelsey is much better. If he was in love and married to her for years & years then he is just as shallow and mean spirited as she is.

      • quincyil says:

        I think the way he lived his life is telling. He had adversity and responded badly in his personal life. This is a man who quits when the going gets rough.

        Young women, look for who your boy friends and potential mates are. Physical appearences change over time, but a man needs a soul to be your soulmate.

  8. Adgirl says:

    Camille has zero personality, but she makes up for it with juvenile set-ups to make her “enemy” miserable.

    Camille is a social terrorist.
    All she had to do was liquor up her junk-yard dog and sit back to enjoy the show.

    • quincyil says:

      I also note that Camille is doing this before she knows of the impending divorce so she is acting this way thinking that we will know she is Mrs. Kelsey Grammer.

    • nathania says:

      I am thinking that Camille is so bankrupt and devoid of a conscience of any kind that she reads ‘the art of war’ simply because she has no internal voice telling her right from wrong.

      It’s sad to me that someone with her wealth, even post-divorce, would need so desperately to ‘win’ in such a trivial argument over nothing. It shows how miserable a person she really must be.

      Also, Allison’s behavior makes more sense to me knowing she’s a friend of Adrianne Curry as some people have pointed out. Her behavior would be a lot more appropriate on one of those reality shows that made Curry famous. Curry, who has a strong personality, may have influenced ‘dubois’ to the point of dubois picking up some of her behaviors and mannerisms.

      I also wonder if Allison believes in karma. Her behavior and predictions sure seem like they would inspire some seriously bad karma, so she probably doesn’t. The “know that” that she followed her predictions with was seriously annoying. It’s really sad when a dinner party on BH makes the ATL or NJ housewives look like the ‘classier’ set of ladies.

      • quincyil says:

        The statement that they originally argued over was insignificant, but the comments made during the battles were painful. Kyle goes for the juglar too.

        I think the concept of alpha female is fascinating. I think this board is filled with alpha females. The key to the board’s success is the structure of the conversations, our self control, and Lynn’s guidance.

  9. Adgirl says:

    The whole Kyle/Bethenny/Hilton girl connection is strange to me. Bethenny used to babysit Paris and Nikki Hilton who are Kyle and Kim’s nieces.

  10. StillAWallflower says:

    Jill Zarin should send Allison Dubois a couple dozen red roses to thank her for (temporarily) assuming the mantle of most hated person ever to appear on a Real Housewives episode. Other than Zarin, I haven’t found anyone else’s behavior to be quite as despicable. Yuck.

    • quincyil says:

      LOL… yes… and some kind of trophy for doing a better job than the NYC girls did at war.

    • Error404 says:

      I find Jill and Camille to be very similar. Both attack viscously all the while claiming to be a saintly victim. How often have we seen both doing the most god awful things to their “friends” only to have claims of being “attacked” served as the icing on the cake.

      I also find Kyle and bethenny similar. Both can be bevy caustic, but witnessing them being attacked over and over again by Jill, Kiki and Camille only makes us like defend them.

    • PJ says:

      Don’t forget Kelly.

    • oldmaryjane says:

      Do you honestly believe that Camille’s behaviour is better than Jill Zarin’s??? Camille is the most morally reprehensible woman I’ve ever seen on any Housewives series but I will admit that Michaela Salahi comes a close second. In my humble opinion, Jill is nowhere near these two women.

    • Totally agree, SAW. Allison is obviously just a walking vessel for all the demon spirits that possess her to tell her where the corpses are hidden. She’s just rotten inside.

      SideNote: I love that I can come to here to vent about these bisches with the satisfaction of knowing that I’m on the right side of crazy. Thanks, Lynn! :))

  11. nancy says:

    Great blog, Quincy. OT Today is the first of three Christmas. All my family gets together the week before so all can get here from all over the State. So, I won’t be lurking today but will be here tomorrow. I got my niece hooked on this site but she doesn’t get here often. Young, work, runner, too busy, at times ,to be here. As always, love your place, Lynn. This is a fantastic site with great people. See ya tomorrow.

  12. quincyil says:

    Lynn’s article on Ne ne was fascinating. After I read about Gregg, I began to recall the times that he pulled Nene back from the edge. If Gregg is out of the picture who will restrain Nene because she does go there as Lynn notes in the article.

    I want to know how Lynn can keep so many little observations about the stars in her head. I really enjoyed those Housewife special blogs that seem to be coming from Lynn’s kitchen every day.

    I have never watched “The Apprentice,” but I bet we will get blogs on it here from Lynn and I will probably watch the show. Bravo should pay Lynn because they have a lot more viewers because of her.

  13. historykc says:

    Loved the recap. And now for some completely off-topic (on a lighter note), I found this while reading a NYTimes Book Review of Mark Twain’s newly released autobiography.. and all I could think of our very own “Countess” LuAnn:

    “The famous man [Mark Twain] is in Berlin, hobnobbing with aristocracy at dinner at the ambassador’s, and meets a count: ‘This nobleman was of long and illustrious descent. Of course I wanted to let out the fact that I had some ancestors, too; but I did not want to pull them out of their graves by the ears, and I never could seem to get a chance to work them in in a way that would look sufficiently casual.’”

  14. quincyil says:

    Lynn and others, how do you submit questions for the reunion of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I think we should all think of questions that would help solve some of the mystery that is Camille Grammer. I think some people here have gotten questions on to WWHL. I don’t know how you are doing that.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Quincy, it’s usually about a couple weeks before the reunion. I know Andy will have an entry on his Facebook where you can ask questions.

    • historykc says:

      I submitted my question to Camille on Andy’s facebook account. I asked what makes Faye “morally corrupt,” considering Camille has posed for Playboy and starred in soft-core porn movies (I cited the Naked Detective). I’m sure he won’t ask it, but it’s worth a shot.

      • quincyil says:

        Great! It can’t be a problem with a simple friendship with Nicole Brown Simpson. Camille must have a reason for her disgust of Faye to act that way.

      • PJ says:

        I got the idea that what Camille was referring to when she called Faye morally bankrupt was not about Faye posing for Playboy, but was more about Faye using the notoriety she gained from the death of her friend Nicole to make money. Would Faye have ever been asked to do Playboy if she had not gained notoriety during the OJ trial?

  15. Realminkey says:

    I agree with Quincy, in that I question whether Allison the Evil was drunk, and whether all her drinks contained liquor. She was crazy mean, but didn’t seem inebriated or impaired. Her mannerisms and speech didn’t seem changed from when she had first arrived.

    Also, it was so incredibly rude of Camille to repeatedly refer to Faye in the third-person, as if she wasn’t even there. To me, this was more offensive than the whole Playboy thing.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Camielle is a very bad hostess!

      • vilzvet says:

        She certainly is! Who would allow a dinner party to disintegrate into guests actually leaving the premises early, with insults from another guest ringing in their ears? She’s a craptastic hostess.

    • quincyil says:

      We have a number of housewives with Playboy backgrounds and non of them have been called immoral before. Where does “immoral” come in to play with Faye Resnick. If it has to with the book Faye wrote with the chapter on the bathtub, candles and a drunk Nicole Brown Simpson, I hardly think that was immoral. They were not married and they were adult women. Surely, Camille was not a virgin on her wedding night with Kelsey. Faye never went to prison so what did she do to earn such a description other than be a dear friend of Kyle Richards.

      • Error404 says:

        Camille was very clear: she did the morally right thing by posing nude for money when she was a nobody. Faye didn’t pose nude for money until after the death of her friend made her ” famous”. Like most of Camille’s logic, it’s built on shaky foundations, but there you have it. Her hatred of Faye seems to stem from Faye using a famous persons name to pro
        Ore herself, and we all know mrs Kelsey grammar would never dare do such a thing, she’s her own woman. Lol

      • oldmaryjane says:

        Camille certainly wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night. Google Prince Jefri and you’ll find out how Camille made big money being a “lady of the evening” to Arab princes and high-powered businessmen a number of years ago. She made a lot of money doing it, and was co-named in a large court case involving Jefri. Kyle was right . . . “people in glass houses” shouldn’t throw boulders. Camille is a skank.

    • kitkat says:

      agreed! the third person references bothered me too. no one touched upon it and I forgot until you mentioned it. There was just SO MUCH wrong at that table that it would take days to dissect.

  16. WindyCityWondering says:

    Quincy – love your write up. I also watched it with the Art of War in mind because of all the advanced “prep” we were treated too. Camielle’s army isn’t very intelligent – DD was not involved in the fighting and Camielle had no control over her attack dog Allison. Their research was faulty, they did not anticipate the lack of engagement with the other housewives because of their coarse behavior.
    What they got right was that Kyle would rise to the bait.
    But what they got really wrong was that anyone would side with or like Camielle. She has made more enemies.
    Sigh – the Art of Nursery Tales says, “The Cheese Stands Alone!”

  17. vilzvet says:

    Nice interview with Adrienne on aol.com The Daily Buzz, it shows up on the front page of AOL. Some tidbits include that except for brief scenes she does NOT want her kids on the show, and she had the twins at 45 years old. The boys are so close that all three share a room (!) in that huge mansion. Since we only once seen Camille interact with her kids on the show, in New York, I wonder if she also wanted that same restriction, but I for one believe that she’s not shown with them because she is simply never is with them at all.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      We have seen Camielle’s children twice and both times Kelsey was with them. IMO she does not want to share screen time with anyone else who she does not have complete control over.

  18. Buffywood says:

    OT but some good news:

    “WASHINGTON (AP) — In a landmark vote for gay rights, the Senate on Saturday voted to advance legislation that would overturn the military ban on openly gay troops known as “don’t ask, don’t tell.”

    The 63-33 test vote all but guarantees the legislation will pass the Senate, possibly by day’s end, and reach the president’s desk before the new year.

    The House had passed an identical version of the bill, 250-174, earlier this week.

    Repeal would mean that, for the first time in American history, gays would be openly accepted by the military and could acknowledge their sexual orientation without fear of being kicked out.”

    • quincyil says:

      I believe that all Americans should be allowed to give their all to our nation. It has nothing to do with gender or sexual preference. We are all Americans.

      (Except those of us in Canada….) We are also all North Americans! (I like to include all board members in all cheers.)

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Best quote I saw regarding this is: “You don’t have to be straight to shoot straight.” 🙂

    • lillybee says:

      This is good news. The military has lost so many good people because of DADT.

      • Dani says:

        Excellent news, thank you I hadn’t read this today. I am hoping it does pass as I feel that anyone who defends our country also has the right to their sexual preference.

  19. jezzibel says:

    Has anyone go any personal experiance with mediums and psychics and can explain the difference between a Medium and a Psychics, from what little I was able to pick up about it they are two different aspects of precognative ability, but beyond that I have no idea

    • quincyil says:

      I thought Mediums work with the dead. That’s why Allison was talking about the dead in the room that she was ignoring while she was focusing on the ladies and she talked about the sexual feeling of the dead being very strong. Allison seemed to tell us that she knew the day that Kyle will die and what will happen to her family so it seems she claims to already know the future. That must be terrofying because you could see when your own children would die and as a mother you would suffer greatly.

      Psychics have ESP, extra sensory perception so they can read cards that are blocked by screens. I’ve read studies on this and most of the time, the hits fall with the laws of propability.

      I think the Human brain is a wonderful organ and there are unexplored possibilities in our future. I don’t think Allison has any gifts other than an ability to ask general to specific questions.

      Camille was into Karma, her readings, where the moon is and mediums. A lot of people are…

    • lillybee says:

      My daughter was offered a job with a Psychic hot line and the poor girl doesn’t have a psychic bone in her body.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Mediumship is a way to connect with the dead. Psychics can gain info on a person by reading their minds, touching an object or person, being in a certain place, etc. I guess mediums are clairvoyant too since they can “see” the dead people. Clairvoyance is a where a psychic can “see” and clairaudience is where they can “hear”.

      I personally think there are some truly gifted people out there that can do this stuff yet they don’t feel the need to write books, go on tour or have TV shows made about themselves.

      • quincyil says:

        I too think people have gifts when it comes to different forms of intelligence. Look at Einstein and idiot savants. Incredible minds…..

        I think people can be gifted in reading body language and communication.

        • Scorpiosue1102 says:

          Totally agree Quincy. My family has a weird thing where, for example, I’ll call my mom and my uncle will beep in or when my grandmother was alive she and I would talk on the phone and my mom or uncle would beep in. It was really freaky for a while.

      • jezzibel says:

        I was wondering if it was possible for the red-headed nutjob(no offense to any red-heads) from the dinner party to be both a medium and a psychic if she is really gifted to begin with. It seemed like she switched back and forth in her abilities, talking to the dead and seeing when exactly someone currently living would die and what would happen to their families afterward.

  20. Wall St Lady says:

    Ad Girl
    Are both Camille & Kesley the producers ? I would think if Kesley is a good business man he would strip Camille of all joint business ventures.
    Do you think Camille did actually participate in business,specifically like picking Arquette ?
    I think Kyles hub wasn’t fired for Kelsey’s real estate business as Camille said would happen.
    I read that Arquette was
    A producer. Do you think she is a producer on Medium ? If she is,she can’t POSSIBLY want to have any thing to do with Allison.
    Someone said Allison gets an income,I think,from Medium ;that would end w/ the show being canceled don’t think advisors make $ on the re run residuals.

    • Error404 says:

      Re: Mauricio

      I guess this is a case of us knowing more than the women involved. Camille tells us that Kelsey wants to move to NYC full time and she wants to stay in ca. This alone would make the services of a bh realtor unneeded. Camille is staying in her house and kelsey is biying in ny. So when Camille “fires” him next week, it’s really no reason for kyle to get upset.

    • twoile says:

      I recently read that only Kelsey is listed as producer of Medium. Sorry that I’m forgetful & can’t quote source.

      • Adgirl says:

        It probably doesn’t matter much – this is a community property state and they had no prenup. Their marriage was over 10 years. She will get a bundle. She stated on TV that is involved in their production company so she will get $$ from reruns and DVD sales.
        The company will probably be disolved due to the divorce. There will be an argument about when his new show and movie were agreed to (whether in fact it was prior to the separation).
        I remember Bob Seger didn’t finish an album because of a divorce, he didn’t want the wife to get any proceeds. She said the music was written during the marriage so she should get 1/2.
        Lawyers play pretty dirty in the entertainment industry.

      • Tonia says:

        http://www.imdb.com does not list Medium under Camille’s producing credits

    • BessiB says:

      I posted a quote on the previous blog – it was NOT Camille that suggested Patricia for the part.

  21. California35 says:

    Hi everyone,

    Bringing this from the other recap–

    Lynn, great recap!

    This time I watched BH on the same night, but I couldn’t read your recap until now. It is great, and I couldn’t agree with you more. I will go up to read what the others have say, but I wanted to comment now.

    Camille planed this and I don’t believe her apology to Kyle on WWH. At the dinner it started as if she was making friends with Kyle, but she made the playboy comment to Kyle’s friend. That was sneaky of her..not attack Kyle but her friend instead. She kept talking nice to Kyle, and although no one really believed it, Kyle’s friend was the only one that said it. When she said that, I was like, no no no, here we go. I’m not b
    Among Faye, but it seemed that that is what started the rest. In my eyes. There was tension and we all knew it was coming, but everyone (the housewives) were just trying to leave it alone. Faye went there, and Camille who wanted to make herself look good did not like that….reason for having her paid friends there. They were so that she can keep cool while they did her dirty work.

    Don’t get me started on Alison. Yikes!!! I am very disappointed, the image I had of the Medium character changed very quickly. I hope her appearance on this show doesn’t mea that she will be showing up more on our TV.

    I would have acted like the other HW, I would have stayed out of it. Stay just hoping it would calm down, but then leave. I would have told Kyle to leave with me. Then again this is a show, so we got drama.

    Everyone, I hope you have a nice Saturday. I can hear the rain from my window, and plan to do as minimum as possible. I will need to leave my house, but only to get a massage. I must go now, but I will be back to read everyone’s post.

    — I didn’t make it to the massage, I got not car keys, so I will stay put all day. I have all day to enjoy the two blogs. I am so liking my Saturday 🙂

    • quincyil says:

      I hope you have a great day. Maybe, they will reschedule the massage.

      • California35 says:

        They wanted to charge for it because I called so late, but I explained and explained again. I was so lucky, I will have it on Tuesday after work. I will probably need it more then. I just hope I don’t have to cancel last minute.

        • American Idiot says:

          Did you lose the car keys?

          • California35 says:

            No, I left them in my BF truck last night. He will be gone all day, so I am stuck here all day. I had things to do, but not having the keys will give me the excuse to stay home in this rainy day. I will get the keys tonight.

            • American Idiot says:

              Ah, I see. You are taking it well. I would be calling my husband wherever he was and telling him to bring me my keys.

              • California35 says:

                Lol – I did text him telling him about it, but he far and didn’t expect him to do anything. I am happy I didn’t have to pay for the massage I didn’t get. Other than that, I am happy I can stay home. It is raining hard today.

                • American Idiot says:

                  Good for you, being able to switch gears like that. When I lived in CA it rained from Nov. to April, and then no rain at all from May to Oct. Outside of Sacramento, near Folsom.

  22. WindyCityWondering says:

    Camielle’s apology on WWHL….it sounded like there were people in the background while she was on the phone. It also sounded like a “scripted” apology made without genuine feelings or sincerity. I felt very bad for Kyle who had to sit through it.

    • California35 says:

      I noticed that too. All her “friends” were probably there, telling her how great she is and that Kyle should apologize to her. Lol

      • vilzvet says:

        In her Bravo blog she ended by again THANKING Allison for being such a great friend! Yikes, with friends like those…

    • Christine says:

      And why would you call in December if you were truly sincere? The dinner occurred last May or June.

  23. California35 says:

    Quincy, great recap. It was very detailed. I don’t remember all the details of what happenednbefore the dinner, so it helped. I watched it once and late, and I didn’t delete it so I could I watched it again. I missed when they talked about the text. Wow, so that adds to our idea that they had a plan.
    I hate Camille!
    Remember when the show first started and we were discussing the rest of the wives, and their lives and their personallities? Because of this Camille stuff, the focus is on her and the way the react. Camile is getting the attention, too bad she is getting it by doing only bad, evil, planning bad, etc. How about for being a good mom, wife, business woman, or for her charities.

  24. Error404 says:

    I think the post dinner behavior of the two parties says a lot.

    Team Kyle said banal things like “that was a weird party”

    Team Camille said some really evil things like “Kyle is the bitch who causes other girls to vomit suicide” ouch!

    Hands down team Camille lost this one, as I can’t belive there are many viewers who tooktheir side.

  25. California35 says:

    I am watching the end of it now. Wow the HW leave the dinner, Alison, Camille and DD are talking about the HWs as is THEY are the problem. Alison is so terrible, mean, rude, nasty.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Mean drunk!

      • JazzNightOut says:

        After reading upthread, I think there is truth to Quincy’s theory that Alison was not drinking as much as it appeared and that getting the RHs drunk was a goal of Camille’s.

        • California35 says:

          I kept thinking that she didn’t look druck, but she kept getting drinks. The others switched to wine or soda (coke or some thing).

  26. JazzNightOut says:

    Quincy: I really needed to read your blog; I started missing things as the dinner progressed. Tried sitting through it again, but fell asleep. I did think that Kyle should have ‘pinky sweared’ with us to scroll on by meanies. If she had not reacted (I know expecting her to be someone she isn’t), the meaness would have had no where to go. I think Kyle hoped Camille would react normally, like a girlfriend, and Camille had no intention of doing so. I admire that Kyle takes care of herself, but she fed the situation as well.

  27. Had Enough! says:

    Senate votes to repeal DADT 65 – 31 (at about 4 p.m. Saturday 18 December). The House
    has already passed this legislation, so it now goes to Obama for signature.

    Unfortunately, the DREAM Act did not make it.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      I am so glad the repeal of DADT passed.

    • Kat says:

      I don’t think DADT has passed yet, today’s vote means it will go before the full senate for a vote.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Oh, it was a test vote only; ok, well, it still looks good.

        • JazzNightOut says:

          Read online reports and am confusted tho it looks like there was a test vote, then a vote to repeal and now it goes to Obama. It make take time to implement, however, I think there is a waiting period after Obama signs it. But the reports are not clear, at least to me.

          • JazzNightOut says:

            Read BBC online as that is clearer to me than Yahoo reports. Repeal has been approved by both House and Senate (today after test vote). Obama will sign it next week, and ‘the repeal will take effect after a 60-day period allowing the defence department to consider how to implement the new policy.’ (BBC News)

            • Kat says:

              Wow! Okay I’m having a drink.
              Cheers! 😉

              • JazzNightOut says:

                Me too!!!!! I think it is wonderful.

                • Dani says:

                  Great news, a quote from President Obama: “It is time to close this chapter in our history,” Obama said. “It is time to recognize that sacrifice, valor and integrity are no more defined by sexual orientation than they are by race or gender, religion or creed.”

  28. Obsessed with RH says:

    I am amazed at how truly detached from reality Camille is. She is beyond narcissistic and I think borderline sociopathic. (I don’t have a degree in psychology nor am I claiming I can diagnose anyone but I feel like her behavior shows some of these qualities). Did anyone notice her creepy smiles as the screaming and arguing escalated? She claims in her blog that this was nervous laughter but even in her talking heads she smiles these eerie smiles as she recounts the dinner. I am happy that her children are being raised by nannies’ because the world does not need another Camille Grammar. I hope that a contingency of her getting the money from the divorce is that she has to enter therapy and learn to live in the ACTUAL reality and not the alternate reality she’s created in her head where her employees are her “dear friends” among other delusional notions of hers.

    • Christine says:

      I thought the same thing. Camille does have the personality traits of the narcissistic sociopath. I have a family member diagnosed with it and their M.O. was often to find another’s Achilles heel until the other person became incensed and out of control. The family member would then speak in a Cheshire cat-like voice and smile, wondering what you were soooo upset by.

      • Obsessed with RH says:

        Yes!!! I couldn’t remember what the cat was I was trying to describe!!! Exactly!!! Camille the Cheshire Cat!!!!

  29. I know Allison is loyal to Camille because of the TV show,,But,, do you think Allison would have come charging out of the gate like that if she had seen the first several episodes of the HW show before this dinner?
    I wonder if Allison had seen the way Camille really behaved and the way she is portrayed, if Allison might have acted somewhat differently? Allison did not have the opportunity to see Camille “for real” the way we did. Her “psychic” skills really failed her here. heh

    • quincyil says:

      I think this is how Allison lives her life. Her dad told her to never apologize. He probably was just like she is.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Allison could not have seen any episodes before her appearance. IMO, Camielle primed the pump with “stories” of her verbal assaults, etc. Nor do I think Allison was “drunk” – no one was buying her psychic crappola and she was pissed and lashed out at Kyle and Faye as per instructions from her mistress.

  30. Obsessed with RH says:

    On an unrelated note, I desperately would love to see Adrienne get a stylist/hairdresser/makeup artist. She’s so pretty but those outfits make her look like she should be a cocktail waitress at a seedy casino in the middle of nowhere….

    • TLM says:

      I agree. The tinsel in the hair is for a 20-year old or younger, and her makeup is drag queen-esque. Not flattering.

      • Adgirl says:

        I think her My Little Pony get ups are a hoot. It’s the only feminine about her. Also, she has the FU money to back it up.

        • TLM says:

          The thing is, if I didn’t know who she was and the money she has, I would never think she had money. Her style is just tacky to me. Can’t stand the decor in her home, with everything being gilded and overdone. I’m reminded of Dolly Parton’s famous saying, “It takes a lot of money to look this cheap.” LOL.

          • Obsessed with RH says:

            It’s so true, you would not think she has money the way she dresses herself or does her hair….it’s comical yes but for goodness sake if you’re going out in public like that do yourself a favor and get a stylist.

            I actually saw her without the loads of makeup she usually wears and she looks SOOO much better!!!!

          • kitkat says:

            agree, agree! Love Lisa’s style though. Her house is beautiful too. Maloof comes off a teeny bit tacky.

        • Debbie says:

          I know I am late to the party. I always am 1-3 days behind you guys. Anyway, That was the funny as hell and I really needed a good laugh. Thanks Adgirl. I hope you see this.

  31. Blue Sky says:

    TLD & OMIB, this video is for you…the train goes between Ooty and Coonoor in India. The scenery is even better in real life, I’ve been on this train.

    • Kat says:

      I found a subtitled version on youtube. I don’t know if it’s Hindi or Urdu from the comments but the sentiment is beautiful, “He who walks in the shadow of love will have paradise beneath his feet”.

      • Blue Sky says:

        India is so romantic, my husband was translating the song for me, & that’s what he said. This song was used in the movie “Inside Man.” The song is excellent, but the movie “Dil Se” that features it was very tragic.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Both are lovely. How u b, Kat?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh man- how pretty!
      Did you ride on the top?
      Did you rock out and belly dance in a sari?

  32. vilzvet says:

    HAHAHA, Shep and Tiffany: imitating LuAnn singing “Money can’t buy you cla-ass”
    “Shut up bitch!”
    Guess it is starting this Thursday. This will be too funny to see on TV!

  33. ilovelynn says:

    wow, great recap quincyil. you mention stuff I never even noticed. I now definitely think there was a plot afoot. btw, did anyone see that camille started to move allison’s(when I typed her name I threw up in my mouth a little) drink glass away from her and said “you should eat something”?

    • quincyil says:

      I saw it and Lynn noticed that at one point Camille tasted the drink. Lynn thought it had liquor in it. On the other hand, it could be part of the conspiracy. I have never taken a drink from a friend’s liquor glass in my house where I was serving the liquor. Have you? First, there’s germs on the edge of the glass from her mouth, but why would Camille do that if her people were making the drinks? Camille could ask for her own drink too. Of course, Alexis Bellino ate off everyone’s plate. Ask Vicki about the goose liver from Gretchen’s plate and what happened at that fancy San Francisco restaurant.
      Maybe, they do this in California, but around here, it’s not good manners.

      • California35 says:

        Lol – no, it is not a California thing lol. Although my brother has that bad habit, no one else I know do that.

      • American Idiot says:

        I watched the fight night again, and it seemed to me like the glasses and drinks kept changing colors and owners. Maybe some of the women took a sip and set their glass down if it was too strong. And then they took another one later. Camille certainly did have alot of those large martini glasses.

  34. TLM says:

    I wonder if Kyle and Bethenny are friends. Bethenny was an assistant to Kathy & Rick Hilton when she was very young, and I think she’s just a couple of years older than Kyle. I bet going out with the two of them would be a fun night, and going shopping would be even better. 🙂

  35. TLM says:

    My new gravatar is Bethenny & Jason sharing a kiss. 🙂

  36. JazzNightOut says:

    Did anyone notice that before the group sat down to dinner, while they were having their first cocktails, that Kim and Camille were holding hands. I think Camille is kind and loving toward Kim because she knows Kim is easily influenced. At the end when the RHs leave, Kim comes back to kiss Camille good-bye. All of this would play on Kyle’s attitude toward Kim if she is noticing it. Kim would rather be accepted and have everything be nice, than confront Camille. Earlier in the season, I think in Vegas, Camille also sided with Kim about being a single parent, in front of Kyle, telling Kim she admired her because being a single parent is a difficult job. I don’t think Kyle gives Kim those strokes, and Camille does. Makes it hard for Kim to know who to side with. Camille appears smart enough to work Kim.

    • error 404 says:

      Interesting obvservations.

      I think Kim has Kyle’s back in non-traditional ways. It may have been the wrong time and place, but I think Kim was absolutely right when she told Kyle in NYC that Camille made her look like a fool and that she shouldn’t have popped off like that. Camille seems to be expert at getting Kyle to readily stoop to her level. At the dinner table, no one could stop Kyle from engaging in the ambush until Kim suddenly started a fight with Taylor over nothing, out of no where, and it gave them the opportunity to get up and leave Camille’s scary house of horrors. Brilliant and unappreciated. Like most control freaks, Kyle’s not really mad at Kim, she’s just mad that Kim didn’t act and do exactly as Kyle wanted her to.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I agree; I think Kyle wants Kim to be Kyle. And, of course, she can’t be. I like Kim; I think she struggles to be herself and to have Kyle see her for who she is. Kim has been criticized for not backing Kyle up, but no one else has either even tho they sat thru the NY fight. With someone like Camille, better to not engage at all. And Kyle has to engage; it is her nature.

  37. JazzNightOut says:


    Reality Buzz with Lynn; she interviews Rich Amons from RHODC. Lynn, you go girl!!!!

    • quincyil says:

      I love it that Lynn let’s the stars talk and listens to them as do we. Rich came across as a really nice guy. He’s funny too. I like him a lot.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I think Lynn is proving to be a wonderful interviewer because she listens; who wouldn’t want to be interviewed by someone who listens. We all need to be listened to.

        • quincyil says:

          Andy Cohen has those cards and he plows through them. There are no follow up questions. Lynn should be in charge of Housewife reunions.

    • American Idiot says:

      Best interview yet, Lynn. Rich was amazing, and so were you. Lots of great info. Congratulations!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Rich is a hoot. Smart, funny & engaging. (Loved his blog & “man rules.”) I also liked that he sort of turned the tables & asked Lynn questions too. Cool interview.

      Congrats Lynn!

  38. Kellita says:

    Great blog, Quincy! Loved it!

    I have enjoyed watching Medium since its first season, so I was anxious to see the real Allison Dubois. I love the fictional version so much better! I was so disappointed to “get to know” the real Allison. What a vile woman! She read the room, snake eyes darting to and fro, decided to take Kyle down by striking her Achilles heel and planting seeds of doubt about her beloved husband and her marriage. That was pure cold, calculating evil. I don’t believe for a second she “read” her. I hope Kyle is wise enough to just let it go.

    As an aside, one of my husband’s friends posted on their Facebook status: “Just ran into Camille Grammer in Stamford, walking into Donut Delights. She is NOT NICE!”
    Huh. Big surprise. Lol.

    • quincyil says:

      Wow…. on so many levels…
      1. To see a reality star
      2. To post on facebook that you saw a reality star
      3. To notice that the reality star was not nice
      4. That Camille would be in a doughnut shop… possibly smelling…donuts…. even possibly buying a donut….

      • Kellita says:

        It just amused me that someone confirmed she does not come across in person as nice, even though she likes us to think she is. And she was going to buy donuts. 🙂

    • American Idiot says:

      Was this in CA or CT?

      • Kellita says:

        In Connecticut. The comments on the posts said she was driving a black SUV with NY license plates. Wonder why she’s in NY?

        • American Idiot says:

          IDK, her mom lives in NJ, right. Could have possibly brought the kids to visit their Dad before the holidays and then maybe going to visit other relatives. Wonder if she was alone in the dount place, or did she have her entourage with her.

          • Kellita says:

            True. She’s probably there for the holidays. The FB poster’s friend said she most likely wasn’t friendly because the FB poster said to her something like, “Aren’t you on RHBH? You’re Kelsey Grammer’s ex, right?” Lol. They didn’t mention if she had her entourage.

    • DeZine says:

      Allison was not reading Kyle she was reading Camille OOPS! Allison started with the whole Having girlfriend issues and Camile said, “no thats me” then Allison went right into saying Husband will never fulfill you emotionally and will be over you when kids are a bit older ect. AKA Kelsey Divorcing her! How embarrassing for Camille unless she thinks no one figured that out??? I did right away, has anyone else? Love Patricia A. but Allison in real life is an alcoholic arrogant and rude! Poor thing probably only when shes drunk or buzzed I wonder if she’s embarrassed for how she acted?? Get help Allison you are gifted but stay in the light sista!

  39. I don't have my notes says:

    Quincy, that was an excellent recap. Just excellent.

    I think Allison has been dabbling in the Dark Side of The Occult. She truly emits evil.

    • quincyil says:

      I have studied ancient religions for fun and I know a lot about the darker forces in mythology. It makes you wonder what these medium people are really into. Is it a form of mental illness where they are suffering some kind of delusions? I seriously doubt that Allison Dubois could read my mind or ask me questions that would lead me into a trap.

      I remember the cafeteria in college where Psychology majors would always ask questions, but never contribute to conversations. After a few minutes, I’d ask them what their major was.

    • Kellita says:

      “…dabbling on the Dark Side of the Occult.” Completely agree.

  40. Earring Girl says:

    After the Dinner from Hell here is lighter version of it:

  41. boston02127 says:

    Great blog Quincy. Thanks.

  42. error 404 says:

    duh! I just realized why Camille decided to throw the dinner party.

    they go to LV and Camille acts all flirty with the guys, and Kyle apparently disses her off camera. Camille is smarting, but there is no retribution at this juncture.

    after Kyle “attacked” Camille in NYC, C&D kept telling the camera that Kelsey was going to fire Mauricio, but apparently no such contact happened between the two men. Weeks go by and we don’t hear a word about it.

    Then Camille decides to host the dinner party, where according to her Kyle once again “attacks” her, this time in her own home. It is not until after this second “surprise attack”, a home invasion no less!, that Camille can send the text to Kyle that Kelsey has fired Mauricio. We’ll just have to wait until next week to see if there is actually any contact between client and broker other than the typical “I’ll have my wife send your wife a text” that is so common in the high stakes business world. I’m pretty sure I bought my house by having my sister send her hairdresser’s cousin a text.

    I’m pretty sure the reason Camille kept flubbing the expression about “shame on me” was because all she could think of was “If at first you don’t succeed, try try again.”

    • JazzNightOut says:

      “We’ll just have to wait until next week to see if there is actually any contact between client and broker other than the typical “I’ll have my wife send your wife a text” that is so common in the high stakes business world.”

      I wish there were an acronym for ‘I’m still laughing.’

    • American Idiot says:

      Error, you are too funny. And you do make a good point here. Who really has the power to fire M. Probably only Kelsey.

    • Christine says:

      Camille can be just so, just so, well just so pernicious and Machiavelliac.

  43. boston02127 says:

    Bethenny Frankel Might Appear on More Than Six New Housewives Episodes

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Glad you are here, dear (((((( Boston)))))); thanks for all the links.

    • California35 says:

      I don’t want to believe that Lisa is as described. If, if, if she was mean to him maybe she had had enough of him.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I don’t believe the version of Lisa expressed in that blog.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I don’t beleive she is any more elitist than any other person who (at least appears) to have a lot of wealth and wealthy connections from Beverly Hills.

          The scene at the DMV suggests that she is probably pretty uncomfortable rubbing elbows with regular people. I don’t think this makes her a ‘bitch’ to feel out of her element, I am sure I would also feel like an odd duck if I was at the dinner party in the mega mansion.

          This show didn’t pluck her from obscurity they way it did NeNe Leaks (for an example). Just because none of us might not have heard of her before- the movers and shakers of BH and surrounding areas have.

          I hardly think being on a few episodes of a reality show that not many people watch (compared to network tv- and RHOA is the highest rated show and only pulls in about 3 million viewers) would send this woman over the edge.

          Cedric is moved out of the mansion? About time.

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I think it’s more like Lisa got sick an tired of Cedric being a complete mooch. Lisa obviously has tons of money. If she was the type to be too big for her britches she’d already be a nasty piece of work. She’s not so a big ‘ol raspberry coming Cedric’s way.

      • oldmaryjane says:

        I think Lisa is one of the most down-to-earth people on the show. Remember when Taylor had a bday party for her four year old daughter (spending over $60K . . . are you kidding me???) and Lisa said, “Whatever happened to pin the tail on the donkey?” I LMAO. Cedric was/is a mooch and I think he failed his driver’s test (for the fourth time) because Lisa told him that once he passed, he’d have to move out. No way he’d want to do that . . . why would he when he has everything at his beck and call? Now, I guess he’ll have to work for a living and it pisses him off.

  44. California35 says:

    Ok, I guess I better get to work. I need to put the clothes away.

    • TLM says:

      Hysterical line in there: “I’m not psychic but I do see the future [for Allison Dubois], and it involves Alcoholics Anonymous.”

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        The whole thing was a riot. I love the picture captions.

      • vilzvet says:

        Here’s my favorite: Adrienne: “I don’t care. As long as I’m out of my house. Paul got shot in the abdomen in a botched robbery. He’s all ‘It’s hurts this, it hurts that.’ I mean, it’s just three bullet holes. Suck it up!”

        Thanks for reminding us to check these hysterical sites, Boston!

  45. debbie says:

    Richard Lawson at Gawker writes a great blog…this week’s was a great read, snarky with a scathing indictment of Camille…@rilaws recap #RHOBH The Psychic, the Cigarette, and the Limousine http://gaw.kr/fAlwfm

    • TLM says:

      Love how he calls Medium “the favorite TV show of nursing home common rooms where everyone’s asleep across America.” HA!!!

  46. LynnNChicago says:


    Reality Buzz With Lynn Hudson Interview with Rich Amons of The Real Housewives of DC

  47. American Idiot says:

    Just check Camille’s blog on Bravo.com, and my comment got posted. ( I had typo in it, that must be why). Most of the comments are negative, no surprise there.

  48. Wall St Lady says:

    Jazz night out. At first I thought u were pernicious and Machiavelliac but then I realized u r just SMART. I didn’t notice the “dances” between Camille & Kim till u pointed them out. Very strange & interesting.
    Is Camille smart enough to manipulate Kim ? Is Kim dumb enough to b manipulated ?
    The hand holding & kissing good by ? Do u think Kyle noticed their familiarity and this is why Kyle left Kim & didn’t return her calls.
    Thanks Jazz,very observant of u.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      I am pernicious and Machiavelliac, lol. I am also blond. And I have a soft spot for Kim so I watch her. I think she is trying to have everyone like her, and that never works. Tried it. You end up betraying yourself in ways that cost. How u b dear WSL? Think of you often when I come here.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      No I think Kyle was angry with Kim because Kim engaged in a fight with Taylor. Kyle felt Kim as escalating the madness. I do think Kyle was so frustrated with her that she didn’t want to be with her anymore that night. Frustrated with Kim.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        The way I saw it, Taylor started with Kim and Kim pushed back.

        I think Kyle is perfectly comfortable with her friends treating her sister like dirt. Kyle probably didn’t catch it because he was obviously engrossed in her own argument, but even then she should have also scolded Taylor for her part in escalating the situation.

        She was more offended by what Camille said to Faye than Taylor’s systematic poor treatment of Kim.

        I know people think that yet again Kim didn’t have Kyles back and didn’t speak up about what she heard in Vegas- but at that point in the discussion they seemed to be civil and were making headway; it was when NY was brought up that crap hit the fan.

        By that time, Taylor got defensive because of her part in it and tried to blame it on Kim. Then…..it was full blown war.

  49. California35 says:

    How can I listen to the interview? I click on it, and it takes me to Richard’s picture.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      Scroll down, you will see grey arrows to start the podcast. Under Reality Buzz with Lynn Hudson. Good luck 🙂

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Actually on this page the arrows are purple and mauve. Click and listen 🙂

        • California35 says:

          Thank Jazz I did what you said and it worked.


          Lynn – great interview, you had me interested the whole time AND he was good too. 🙂

  50. Wall St Lady says:

    JazzNightOut say

    December 18, 2010 at 4:29 pm
    This refers to my previous post

  51. Zipit Zarin says:

    For OneMoreInBoston. This was on the DVD of Ghost World starring Scarlet Johanson (sp). It was so freaking random. Love it!

  52. Zipit Zarin says:

    Quincy, that was a fantastic break down of the Art of War and how Schlemiel used it. Haaa, whoever came up with that moniker for her is brilliant and I’m stealing it. 😛

  53. Adgirl says:

    I just saw Black Swan. Talk about weirdos and head trips. It’s psychological thriller in The Shining vein but set in a NY ballet company.

    It was an excellent movie and Natalie Portman is exquisitely beautiful. This is the performance of her career.

    I have to caution all of you this is a very very gory movie. The whole film is laced with extremely disturbing bloody scenes so think about it before you go. I took my mother and we both looked away from the screen frequently.

    • vilzvet says:

      Bloody scenes? I knew it was a thriller but did not know about any gore. Still plan on seeing it, hopefully before it comes out on DVD. I love Portman and I bet Mila Kunis is great as well. The last movie I can recommend is “The Town” by Ben Affleck.

    • American Idiot says:

      I saw it last weekend, Adgirl. Very dark and disturbing movie. Not for the younger set at all either. Somewhat graphic sexual encounter between 2 females.

      • Adgirl says:

        Yeah, I was sitting next to my mother during the whole thing! Good thing she is open minded. But geez. We could hardly talk about the movie afterwards because it was so hallucinogenic.

        • American Idiot says:

          I went with my sister, and she didn’t like it at all. I think it is good to get the word out about what it is really like. Some people may go thinking it is a nice ballerina movie – and they will be shocked to find out what it’s really like.

          • floridagirl88 says:

            Yes, I wish I had read the reviews before I went. I was shocked that it was really a horror movie, a genre I DON’T like and that sometimes gives me nightmares. Natalie Portman gives an outstanding performance, but this is more a psychological mindbend than a movie about ballet. Be forewarned.

    • TLM says:

      Wow, had not had the impression this was a gory film from the trailers… I think I’ll probably skip it then. Thanks for the warning!

      • Toront0 says:

        I think I will skip it as well….and thanks for the warning. I knew it wasn’t just a ballet movie but from the description I think it would be difficult to get thru. I hate gory.

  54. Zarout! says:

    This may be a little out there, but does anyone think it’s possible Camille said “she’ll even be able to tell if your husband is cheating” because Alison may have intimated that to Camille about Kelsey? It’s a long shot, but the thought did cross my mind…

    • Adgirl says:

      I just can’t give that pit bull any credit. I think she tells everyone their husband cheats! Except her employers wife.

  55. error 404 says:

    ha! Just watched an old episode of ‘Medium’. I’d forgotten what a kook the character was, so at odds with everyone and often diffiuclt to deal with. No scene of her attacking a woman she just met at a dinner party though.

    • Adgirl says:

      Thankfully I haven’t had time to watch that show. Can’t fit it in between Bravo viewing and message boards!

  56. Wall St Lady says:

    Am Idoit & Adgirl
    Thank u for the heads up on the Black Swan movie. I DON’T do bloodie very well. I will wait for home viewing so I can do my BB when needed to avoid watching !

  57. Wall St Lady says:

    I so enjoyed your skating review. I lost the link. Could u repost it Error ?
    Anyone who hasn’t read this fantastic review don’t miss the best opportunity I have experienced to LYAO at judge jonny cakes !

  58. Zipit Zarin says:

    Mind bleach after that movie, Adgirl 😀

  59. Wall St Lady says:

    I posted a week+ago to tell u how brilliant your skating spoof was. I guess I did something wrong I can’t find my comment.

    Don’t miss Error’s sharp pen.


  60. Wall St Lady says:

    Thanks Kat. U r always there to guide the lost or confused ; sometimes the stupid !

  61. ches says:

    Great Blog Quincy. I missed a lot of the dialouge while I was actually watching the show, so it was great to know what was really said.
    Some information on Nick…Kelsey’s “best friend”.
    Also, I absolutely looove this image of Allison. Looks exactly like her. The only thing missing is that stupid cigarette.

  62. California35 says:

    Lynn – great interview, you had me interested the whole time AND he was good too.

    I was happy to hear your voice, I have read whats on your mind, I have seen your pictures, and now I also have heard your voice 🙂

  63. Adgirl says:

    I wonder if Camille will be on RHOB season 2?
    She doesn’t need the money, and she’s ruined what little reputation she has. She’s even blown the chance for public sympathy for being dumped.

    • California35 says:

      The thing is that she is so….like Kyle said…delusional, that she could try to be on the show again. In could libe without her, her “friends” and drama. Bravo can add someone else.

  64. California35 says:

    Adgirl and MaericanIdiot, thank for telling ipus about the black swan. I wondered about it. Now I’m thinking my BF would want to watch it with me. It is about girls, but it has stuff he would like. We still haven’t make it to see two others, Narnia and the Tourist. Has anyone seen those? We will try to go to the movies from tomorrow until New Years, and those are on our list.

  65. California35 says:

    Sorry AmericanIdiot…

    • Adgirl says:

      Your BF may not like it anyway because it all about ballerinas and their weirdness. She’s not being haunted, she’s having a breakdown so you don’t know what is going on.

      Haven’t seen either Narnia or Tourist. I don’t care for Jolie so it a movie with her would have amazing reviews for me to pay to see it. Love Depp.

      I haven’t even seen Social Network yet!

      • California35 says:

        That one seem interesting also.

        • American Idiot says:

          The Social Network was great. I really liked it. I have “Rabbit Hole” and “The King’s Speech” on my must see list. They are nowhere around me yet though.

  66. Wall St Lady says:

    Ad girl
    I really enjoyed social network. I had wanted to see Colored Girls
    too. Usually I wait to see them on Pay per View

  67. California35 says:

    Thank you. We have Narnia on the top of the list, and he didn’t even know about the Tourist. I am interested on the story. We don’t go to the movies that often, but when there is a Russell Crow movie he doesn’t hesitate to take me…he knows I love him…so I though I pay the favor by telling him about the Tourist. We usually try to go to movies that we both like, otherwise it’s a waist of money….so we wait until they come to DVD.

  68. GrannyLuvsMe says:

    No one has talked about Colored Girls. Great movie, you will cry. Google history of play so you will know back story.

  69. Wall St Lady says:

    Hi Granny
    Tell me about Granny. I haven’t seen u B4 but I am glad u r here.

  70. Wall St Lady says:

    That’s a sweet tribute to each of u. So your Granny is computer savvy ? Did u teach her ?

  71. Wall St Lady says:

    R u my Kat

  72. Kat says:

    Yep, just feeling twitchy. Must be the cool night air. Or my yawning?

  73. Wall St Lady says:

    I think I may remember ur Granny. She talked about u & some of your cousins like her & she is brilliant.

  74. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @WSL, OMG! You will love “For colored girls” I sobbed all the way home after seeing this movie. The symbolism in the cinematography is absolutley profound! Have you ever seen the play?

    • Kat says:

      Pinky promises wear off right? I mean I can’t be held accountable forever right?
      Okay, safely off to bed.

  75. Wall St Lady says:

    Many borrowed children am Aunt lee. I prefer children was trained to b a teacher. I make up plays. This year we decorated flip flops w/ribbons from Walmart. I love to do crafts. I have to say they love me & call on the telephone. I requested hand made cards for Christmas. I could go on & on. Elizabeth Dole said not having child allowed her to have many children & I adopted that motto years ago.

  76. Wall St Lady says:

    I looked up Colored Girls.
    Do you know
    *Powder Blue Jessica Biel, Ray Liota, Forest Whitaker,supported by
    Kris Kristofferson, Lisa Kudrow,
    and Patrick Swayze (last movie)

    *Spread : Ashton Kutcher
    Anne Heche

    *The Greatest : Pierce Brosan
    Susan Sarandon ,Carey Mulligan

  77. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @WSL, don’t know those movies. Did you mean to post that? I mostly go to comedies or movies that are deep topics.

  78. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Kat, somebody shit in your litter? Only 19hrs until RHoA!!!

  79. Kat says:

    Good Morning Lynn. 8)

  80. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Kat, I’m wonky too. Took a late afternoon nap, now I can’t sleep. Its 2:30 AM my time. I’m gonna watch “murder by the book” and hopefully that will lull me to sleep.

  81. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Kat, it’s not a movie. It’s a murder mystery series hosted by mystery writers on TruTV.

  82. Wall St Lady says:

    TLD Yes I meant to post them. I was involved in producing them. Powder Blue is very deep. Jessica spent months learning to pole dance. It was Swayze’s last film.
    Spread is a Hollywood hills home (spread) Ann is a rich
    lawyer/cougar who catches kutcher cheating. Ilove the scenery. Its kutcher’s “first” dramatic role.

    The Greatest is about the death of a 20+ son & the familys acceptance of the pregnant girl Sarandon blames for killing her son.
    No blood in any of them. All beautiful but Powder Blue is shot dark like a film noire. All r contempory.
    Our next one is 13 with Mickey Rorke.
    We bought an add for Lynn’s podcast.

    • Adgirl says:

      WSL you crack me up:
      “Powder Blue is very deep. Jessica spent months learning to pole dance.”

      I hope you didn’t say “I loved your spread”. Teeheee.

  83. Wall St Lady says:

    I am confused I noticed that 2 of
    Granny’s posts disappeared. One asked if I had children. One said her Granny’s birthday was in Jan not Dec 25th.
    Kat r up to your computer/sand box magic ?

  84. Wall St Lady says:

    Granny what happened to your posts. Do we have a troll who steals posts ? Should I tell our Blog Mistress she has a
    Post Snatcher ?

  85. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @WSL, you drinking late at night? Your posts are keeping me awake. I think you are seeing shadows in the darkness. Maybe the comments are written in invisible ink. LOL!

  86. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @WSL, I tried to look up your mom’s pound cake recipe and found NO RECIPE! I need that recipe!!

  87. Adgirl says:

    I’m having trouble following the posts here … is something missing?

    It’s 4:30 AM here in CA and it it pouring raining like you won’t believe. I had a toothache so got up to take an aspirin and distract myself with you fun ladies.

  88. Adgirl says:

    WSL that is so cool you are involved with producing movies!

  89. TLM says:

    Allison Dubois, after this show you will no longer have clients or fans. Know that.

    • quincyil says:

      Allison is not “self aware.” Bethenny said that she was not sure that Jill was “self aware” in an article about their confrontation. Allison has no idea that she presented her own head on a platter for Bravo.

    • California35 says:


  90. TLM says:

    Is it wrong that all I could think about during the Escape From Witch Mountain episode was, how come we didn’t get to see the signed Louboutin shoes on Lisa’s feet??!?? We didn’t even get to see the front of the shoes when she took them out of the bag. I feel cheated!!!!

  91. TLM says:

    With a dearth of Bravo programming on early Sunday morning, I guess I’ll talk about other channels today.

    Does anyone else dislike Jenna Wolfe on The Today Show Sunday edition? The woman just works my last nerve. I feel like she has all the grace of a truck driver and all the warmth of an ice cube. And she apparently is her own biggest fan, constantly reminding us all how clever she is. I wish Amy Robach would take over that slot permanently; so far, she’s only been on when Jenna is on assignment. I guess all I can do is keep my fingers crossed that Jenna will be put on a long-term assignment to cover the Alaskan fishing industry. I would gladly help her pack.

    My favorite part of Sunday is the trumpet at the beginning of Sunday Morning on CBS (without that, it isn’t Sunday in my house) and the nature segment at the end of the program. Ideally the smell of fresh coffee is in the air when the trumpet sounds, and there are bagels toasting or something good on the stove. That is my idea of Sunday Morning Heaven.

    The nature segment has tragically been cut significantly in length, and I hate whomever made that decision. I can only imagine it was done in favor of selling another :15 or :30 spot. At some point, everything can’t be about money, and if you take away what makes the show unique, it becomes a different show. To me, this segment has always been meditative and special, the moment I just stop doing everything and just watch and listen. I am sad that Sunday Morning saw fit to reduce it to 10 seconds or so, and sometimes even less than that.

    But sometimes change is good. One addition I have enjoyed very much on Sunday Morning is The Fast Draw. If you haven’t seen it, check out http://thefastdraw.com/. These guys are smart, great at explaining things… and boy are they cute. Especially the dark haired one. (I can never remember which one is Mitch and which one is Josh.) I think I would like to get all my news from these guys. I also love Nancy Giles, who has done commentary on Sunday Morning in recent years, but who hasn’t been on in a while. You can see her work here. http://www.nancygiles.com/

    If CBS were smart, it would give Andy Rooney a nice big party and a watch, and put The Fast Draw on with an evening package on 60 Minutes, or put on Nancy Giles with her commentary in place of Rooney’s now-insufferable segment. Sure, at one time Andy was a real hoot; I think that was about 25 years ago. I even bought two of his books. But in the last 15 years or so, I feel I can almost hear television sets changing their channels or being shut off all over America as soon as this man comes on. If Andy has done more than 5 minutes of preparation for any segment in the last decade, he has managed to hide it really well. The commentary usually begins with him talking about something he found in his desk or his basement for lack of finding a more topical subject, then meanders into random disjointed thought and unsubstantiated pronouncements, not unlike your annoying blowhard uncle after he’s had a little too much scotch. I’m sorry CBS. You can maybe expect people to put up with that from their relatives, but anecdotal random opinions aren’t supposed to substitute for fact-checking on network TV. But I guess it doesn’t matter, since no coherent thought emerges from Rooney’s random stream of consciousness anyway. In my opinion, it is a waste of valuable air time and a very sad end to a once-great career. Additionally, Rooney consistently shows how out of touch he is with the modern world and how it works. It’s fine to prefer your typewriter to the computer, but at least show you know how computers work, and admit that there are some benefits to using them. And I will never forget his obnoxious, insensitive diatribe after the suicide of Kurt Cobain, for which CBS received a record number of angry letters.

    The “I’m an old curmudgeon and I’m happy this way” routine played itself out long ago. So please, CBS, give Andy that long-overdue farewell party. He can continue to ramble on about what crap he found in his old desk every week. He’ll just be doing it in his own kitchen, where it belongs and where the public doesn’t have to be subjected to it anymore.

  92. knocknoc says:

    This is from Camille’s most recent Bravotv blog:

    “…. when I get nervous I smile and laugh. I know that there
    are other people that do this as well. It isn’t something that
    I try to do, it just happens.”

    Do you think Camille did this when Kelsey told her he wanted
    a divorce?
    No doubt she became nervous and flustered when she heard
    those words.
    Just wondering……………

    • vilzvet says:

      Right! We have yet to see Camile lose her temper! Is that physically impossible for her?

    • LynnnSoCal says:

      I don’t believe anything Schlemiel says. She’s always got an agenda. Someone that narcissistic doesn’t get nervous.

  93. Had Enough! says:

    Moving right along…

    I am beginning to feel a little bit sorry for Taylor. She was a normal, attractive woman who somehow thought she needed some work. She ended up being disfigured, which is always a possibility with cosmetic surgery. She does her best to keep her looks up because she is freaked out about her husband leaving her for someone younger, but she can’t do anything about the lips without more surgery (and that carries its own risk of making things worse, not better – you can’t blame her for being scared of cosmetic surgery at this point).

    I’ve been lucky. I had two (nose, face lift) and both turned out fantastic and natural. But going into it, I knew there was a risk that it would not be a good outcome. Cosmetic surgery is never predictable.

    But Taylor could do something about her hair. It is not a flattering style.

    • TLM says:

      I really wish she would take the plunge and get that upper lip implant removed. She would look 1000% better without it. She said she had it done maybe 20 years ago and isn’t ready to have surgery again…but it would be so worth it in the end. I hope she finds a good surgeon and takes care of it soon.

  94. sophie says:

    Noticing that my posts have been deleted, I presume by the blog owner? I apologize for whatever I wrote that was taken as offensive. Won’t happen again.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Are you sure you are checking the right blog or section? It’s easy to loose track of posts here. Also the blog owner is taking some time off and isn’t here; a regular is helping manage the blog for her while she is gone, something might have been deleted by accident.

  95. Wall St Lady says:

    Prissy’s Mock Pound Cake for TLD

    2 sticks butter (1 margine) soft
    1 2/3 cup sugar
    2 cups flour
    1/2 tsp salt
    5 eggs
    *Lemon extract
    *dash of each
    Sit eggs& butter out to room temp
    Add 1/4 flour b4 eggs one at a time wisk or slow mixer
    Cook in a tube pan greased w/flour
    1hr. 5min
    350 degrees

  96. Tara R says:

    Quincy great blog.

    I usually don’t comment just read but I was glad to see I wasn’t the only one to catch Camilles look after greeting Faye. I just though I would watch again because something about the “event on Monday” kept bugging me. Remember when DeDe and Camille are in the closet picking clothes and Camille shows her the screw u shirt and says its for another night and DeDe responds with yea that’s Monday night. Then when all the ladies are together and Camille asked Kyle and Taylor if they are going to the event on Monday and they say yes which is Lisas event. We see on the previews at Lisas restaurant that’s when Kyle receives the text from Camille and says she knew I was at this event. Not that I doubted her master plan. But I see how sloppy she was now seeing these little details. I had to share with someone!

  97. DeZine says:

    I too have watched Medium for years Love Patricia and thought I loved Allison.
    Clearly all the Rude predictions Allison said to Kyle were really about Camille, OOOPS!
    She’s the one with girlfriend issues and Camilles husband was the one that could never fulfill her emotional needs and is over her as her kids grew. AKA Their Divorce..
    How Embarrassing!!!! Was that clear to everyone watching or just me?

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