IHJZ The Real Housewives of Atlanta Air Date Dec 19, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of Atlanta Air Date 12/19/10

Before reading this blog, you must all go to IHJZFriendshipContract.com and sign my friendship contract…ok that’s a joke, I really don’t understand why idiot Kim took it so seriously. Kim told Cynthia that she was creeped out by the contract and even said she got sick to her stomach. Oh please! Lighten up Zolciak, and go bedazzle your microphone! Somebody should bedazzle Kim’s mouth, it won’t improve the sound coming out of it but at least it’ll sparkle. I love bling!

I don’t know what Kandi was thinking inviting Kim to open the show for her on Kandi’s Promo Tour, I think she saw the crowd at the White Party and thought they were all there just to see Kim. That party attracts thousands of people that would have attended with or without Kim Zolciak so she wasn’t the “draw”.

The ladies are all planning on congregating in Miami together for a few days while Kandi and Kim will perform there, and incorporate a bachelorette party for Cynthia at the same time. The Atlanta ladies definitely have some cause for complaint over at Bravo. Andy Cohen sends the New Jersey ladies to Italy, New York Housewives go to St. John and Morocco, why on earth does the top rated Atlanta Housewives only get to go to Miami?

Cynthia did some serious wedding planning this week viewing the venue with NeNe we learn that she’s going to be getting married between two dead dinosaurs at a museum. Between the friendship contract and the dead prehistoric animals not to mention Cynthia yelling when she learns NeNe shared the friendship contract with Kim, I’m surprised NeNe doesn’t run for the hills. Is it just me, or is Cynthia only normal when she’s not around NeNe?

Cynthia gets a call from a designer inviting her to model his swimsuits during Miami Swim Week but tells the designer that she’s not “bikini ready” and doesn’t feel comfortable wearing a 2-piece swimsuit but that she’ll rock the runway. Somehow I don’t believe that Cynthia wouldn’t rock a bikini but at least she didn’t ask the designer to sign a “Bikini Contract”. Poor Cynthia, she’s never going to live down the Friendship Contract thing.

We got to hear quite a bit of Kandi’s singing tonight, I love her voice. Kandi got very emotional singing a song about her ex-fiancé who was murdered last season, A.J. She got upset and shared that she doesn’t seem to be able to love again since she lost A.J. It was very sad and I really hope that Kandi finds a great guy and finds love again. Kandi released her latest CD this past week and it is available on her web site. http://kandionline.warnerreprise.com/

It is also available at Amazon.com and at Target Stores.

Kim tweeted this during the show last night dispelling rumors that Kim and Kandi are on the outs:

@Kimzolciak I have to tell ya all @Kandi album is sick….my absolute Favorite song is “How Could You” we are jammin in my house!!!!!!!!

Kandi tries a wig on during a rehearsal for her tour and is mortified when it falls off as she’s dancing, leave the wigs to Kim, Kandi trust me!

Phaedra calls and interrupts Kandi’s studio time but the ladies both decide they need a spa day and Kandi invites Phaedra to join her and the other ladies for a day of relaxation. Phaedra is in!

Kandi visits the new mom and their conversation turns to the other Housewives, Phaedra tells Kandi that Cynthia’s neck was rolling as she confronted Phaedra about the baby being full term. Kandi admits that she did confirm for the ladies that the doctor announced Phaedra’s pregnancy to be “Full Term”. But although Dwight got it wrong and embellished a whole lot, it was actually Kim who made comments about Phaedra and her baby’s due date that angered Phaedra. The alien baby comments came out of the wig wearing, chain smoking Cheetah stripper’s mouth. Kim’s alien comment came from the 5 ½ month gestational period that Phaedra was trying to pass off as full term but Dwight made up the part about the fingers and toes. Phaedra announces what we all already know, Kim’s going straight to hell.

I think Phaedra mentioned no less than five times that she has a husband, something Kim doesn’t have. A bit insensitive since she was talking to Kandi, who also doesn’t have a husband and whose ex-fiancé was recently killed. Phaedra is so proud of herself for finding a husband, was it that hard? Its not like she got the holy grail of husband’s, I doubt it would be that tough to find a buff ex-con with the IQ of a gnat to marry a wealthy attorney from Atlanta.

Phaedra seems very natural with the baby while Kandi visits, this is another Apollo free episode and we learned tonight on Watch What Happens Live that he does work but his description of his job was chopped and a bit unclear, he just kept repeating “turn-key” and “corporate”. I must say that I do like Phaedra a bit better since seeing her on Andy’s show, she was able to make fun of herself, she didn’t cop to lying about the baby’s due date but her husband explained that they’re “Private People” and threw in some pregnancy complications to throw viewers off track. Naturally the private couple decided to appear on the top rated Bravo reality show.

On Watch What Happens Live, we also learned that Phaedra was under doctor’s orders to skip her crazy baby shower and stay in bed. This tells me two things. The doctor is a better Medium than Beverly Hill’s Allison, the doctor foresaw the stupidity of that shower and tried to save his patient the embarrassment. It also tells me that Phaedra is a bit selfish putting the baby at risk in order to be Cinderella at her baby shower. That said, I liked that she could make fun of herself bringing Andy Cohen gourmet canned foods in response to her racist comments about white people preferring canned goods but added that she won’t hold it against him when Andy Cohen unnecessarily announced that he is white. She’s still not my favorite by any stretch of the imagination but she’s a little bit more human now. I think Phaedra is basically harmless and all of this southern belle, snobby attitude is put on for the cameras.

Kim Zolciak, on the other hand would have to erect an orphanage, donate her entire wardrobe to charity and singlehandedly save an entire retirement home full of residents from a fire, in order to possibly move up one step in my book. This is probably the most selfish woman in the world, she acknowledged tonight that Kandi was nervous and stressed about her tour but showed no sympathy, only discussed how it affected Kim’s life and preparation for the tour. Kim’s less than enthusiastic efforts at learning the dance moves and properly preparing for a professional tour is simply laziness and Kim’s lack of appreciation for all that Kandi has done for her. Kandi’s including Kim in her tour could not possibly have resulted in enough positive feedback to make it worthwhile, not for the amount of stress that Kandi has to endure.

Kim’s wardrobe preparation for the tour included her new stylist, Dale (he wasn’t her stylist last season) and not one, but two shoe stylists. The outfits that Kim tried on were the sluttiest, gaudiest things I’ve ever seen, naturally Kim loved them. I get that she needs to look good, look young and even sexy but she just looked cheap to me, especially with her boobs hanging out the sides!

Kim’s girls trying on mom’s shoes could have been a cute and an endearing scene of a mom with her daughters playing dress-up, but it was very strange when her daughter grabbed her boobs, sorry, it just was!

NeNe is working on her new show “Keeping It Real with NeNe” trying to get a high profile guest for her first interview. Jay-Z is in Europe, Toni Braxton’s not available, BowWow’s mommy apparently has no pull with her son, Serena William’s assistant blew her off but NeNe manages to get Jermaine Dupri, producer, songwriter and rapper.

NeNe jokes with her son and his friend about helping her get some big name talent, it was cute and NeNe was comfortable relating to the boys. The end of the scene has to be the best part, NeNe reviews the list of celebrities given to her by her boss to try to get them on her show, and NeNe says, “Oprah Winfrey? They lost their minds!” Hysterical!

Sheree went furniture shopping with her daughter who just got her first apartment with her boyfriend and unlike most new couples starting out don’t like the college frat house look including milk crates and hand-me-down furniture. Mommy Sheree agrees to buy her daughter a couch, and only a couch as her daughter falls in love with everything in the store. Once Sheree chooses the couch that she likes, ignoring her daughter’s favorite, the young lady leaves mom to pay the bill. Sheree then goes back through the store choosing an entire apartment full of furniture to surprise her daughter. Sheree reminds us no less than three times that her daughter likes the finer things, just like her mom.

I know what you’re thinking, that’s a whole show worth of a blog already, right? It’s not over yet, the ladies all meet at the spa and drama is created but did you notice that it was actually Sheree who brought up all of the taboo subjects that started the battles?

Sheree brings up the Friendship Contract and Cynthia defends herself against Kim repeating again and again that it was a joke but Kim continues to make a production of it while NeNe just laughs hysterically. NeNe acknowledged that she was proud of Cynthia for defending herself and I have to agree, Kim thought that Cynthia would be an easy mark but Kim looked like an idiot blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Who told Sheree about it?

Sheree asks Phaedra how her baby is doing and another brawl breaks out.

Just to make my night even more wonderful, Phaedra goes after Kim for her comments about Phaedra’s baby and her due date. As Kim rattles off her resume and reminds everyone that she went to school and is educated, I’m sure all the housewives were thinking the same thing as I was:

Columbia the country?

Phaedra reminds Kim that it is none of her business and asks to see Kim’s Registered Nursing degree, I think we’d all like to see that. Apparently Phaedra follows up with this request to see Kim’s credentials next week, can’t wait!

Kim interviews that everyone was talking about the controversary that is Phaedra’s due date and couldn’t understand why Phaedra focused her attack on Kim. Kim announces her brilliant theory that it must be because if she went after NeNe, she would choke her, Sheree would pull her hair and Cynthia would just agree and then make her sign some f**ked up contract. I don’t suppose Kim considered that Phaedra focused on Kim because Kim has the biggest mouth and criticized Phaedra more than the others?

I think NeNe said it best, obviously Phaedra isn’t going to fess up and admit that she lied about her due date, Phaedra interviews that Kim has some 1950’s attitude but in actuality I think it was more Phaedra’s old fashioned attitude that was in question. Phaedra’s refusal to admit that she was pregnant when she got married is really primitive. Just tell the truth! No one really cares.

Cynthia’s bachelorette party should be a hoot, the Southern Belle and Church-going new mother seems to have the connections to get some really hot entertainment for the party, Phaedra informs the women that she knows a guy who knows a guy that can get a male stripper hung like a fire hose and has the unique ability to satisfy himself with his own mouth. Oh Phaedra, we know you were a wild woman in your single, college days, who are you kidding?

One of Kandi’s fans apparently is a crackerjack investigator and tweeted the link to Kandi:

TO: @Kandi ….THUS THE MAN WHO CAN S*CK HIS OWN D**K!!! http://yfrog.com/h3317rj <- He can do that???

Oh our dear Ramona, she decided to tweet during the show last night, it seems she ruffled some wigs down in Atlanta and managed to piss off the uber sensitive pregnant Kim Zolciak, take a look:

@RamonaSinger: Ok tweet went off rhoatlanta on @Kandi and @NeNeLeakes my favs maybe I’ll tweet during the show

@RamonaSinger: How is @Kandi going to handle going on tour with Kim

@RamonaSinger: Wow I was never so lucky as Sheree daughter I had to buy all my own furniture!!

@RamonaSinger: I agree with @NeNeLeakes a friendship contract is she kidding? And skeletons at your wedding?

@RamonaSinger: I really think @Kandi is a great singer and I love how she shows her emotions don’t you?

@RamonaSinger: Cold calling in business is about law of averages keep calling and something will hit

@RamonaSinger: Are you kidding me? I never kiss Avery the way Kim just kissed her girls!

@KimZolciak: Umm it was a joke u shud tweet at me if u have something to say

@RamonaSinger: TO @NeNeLeakes. I’m watching the show and so far so good!!

@RamonaSinger: I just love @NeNeLeakes laugh so happy she got the interview I know shell be great

@RamonaSinger: @Kimzolciak look great at the spa without makeup what do you think?

@KimZolciak: Thank you Ramona!

@Jillzarin: Just landed in Florida. I missed it. Was it crazy great tonight?? Dying.

@RamonaSinger: to @JillZarin: Cat fight

@KimZolciak: to @JIllZarin: Glad ur safe 🙂

NeNe tweeted just a bit but managed to slam her fellow housewives once again. Trouble is, it’s tough to tell who she’s snarking at here, could be Kim or Kandi. She also had not so nice words for Phaedra the last time she was on Watch What Happens Live so it could be Phaedra too, here’s what NeNe had to say:

@NeNeLeakes: OMG!!! I’m n my car rushing home 4 the show! I’m missing it! What’s going on yall?

@NeNeLeakes: Some of these housewives of the A are sooooooo phoney! They talk shit then apologize! Birds of a feather flop together

@NeNeLeakes: Is there a surgery 2 make lips smaller? LOL! I know somebody that needs it so let me know

@NeNeLeakes: Keepin it real wit Nene! Bringing no drama hot mama

@NeNeLeakes: We got 2 get a new housewife! Enough with the fakeness! Yall any ladies that’s real & fun?

Cynthia and NeNe seemed to be fairly close while filming the show but they must have gone their separate ways after filming, I suppose there could be something more that happens this season that split up the legally binding friendship. There were rumors that NeNe was very late for Cynthia’s wedding and then demanded that Cynthia’s make-up artist apply NeNe’s make up delaying the wedding even further. NeNe denies this claim but it sure does seem as though something happened between Cynthia and NeNe.

Cynthia tweeted but only a total of four tweets during last night’s show, and one of those four was announcing that she would be tweeting during the show…

@CynthiaBailey10: Whose ready to watch the RHOA? I will be tweeting, so here we go! Enjoy!

@CynthiaBailey10: What was that? I’m being mean?

@CynthiaBailey10: U guys r great. Spa scene with the girls coming up.

@CynthiaBailey10: Rolling my neck? Shut up.

Another jam packed Atlanta episode followed by Andy Cohen’s Watch What Happens Live featuring Phaedra Parks and her husband Apollo.
Phaedra seemed natural and relaxed in the hot seat improving her reputation just a bit and expanding on Sheree, Cynthia, Kandi and even Kim who’ve all said that they like Phaedra ok but that her on screen persona isn’t the real Phaedra. They seemed to think that she was acting a bit for the show and putting on a Southern Belle character for Bravo’s cameras. Phaedra’s comments are what they are, she said what she said and I believe that she does have a bit of an elitist attitude, she thinks she’s better than some people including her husband. Maybe I’m forgiving her a bit because there are bigger fish to fry in Atlanta, Kim needs an attitude adjustment a lesson in humility and a whole lot of empathy.

Phaedra announced on WWHL that the women were not very nice to her, she even called them “mean girls”. I wish she had excluded Kandi from that statement because it sure seemed as though Kandi went out of her way to welcome Phaedra to the Housewives Sorority.

Finally, did Andy Cohen seem a bit miffed to anyone else last night? He got really testy when he thought that Phaedra described him as “High” until she corrected him and said that she called him “Hot” rather than High but even as they moved on, Andy looked at the camera and was clearly agitated when he repeated, “I’m not high!”. A bit defensive about that, wasn’t he? I’m just sayin…

Until Next Time…

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425 Responses to IHJZ The Real Housewives of Atlanta Air Date Dec 19, 2010

  1. boston02127 says:

    Great blog Lynn, thx.

  2. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    Lynn Bravo has nothing to do with where these woman are going its where Kandi was going to from the start just as her tour continues with Fantasia all across the country
    i still hate the “southern Belle” who thinks white moms dont know good food on the show BUT she was totally different on WWHL much more likeable

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Actually the Miami trip didn’t have anything to do with Kandi’s tour with Fantasia, this was the promo tour that Kandi did with Kim, just three cities.

      Completely seperate from that however, Bravo sent the NY ladies to St. John and Morrocco and paid for the NJ trip to Italy, they could have planned and sent the ladies of Atlanta somewhere too!

      OK, now I really have to go..:) Thanks Quincy! You’re the best! Lynn xo

      • DJ Fruit Loops says:

        yes i know Lynn thats why i said she continues WITH Fantasia NOT Kim
        the date to Miami was arranged Before Kim was involved My point was Bravo didnt have anything to do with the miami trip initially

  3. boston02127 says:

    Cynthia planning her wedding at a dinosaur museum is so odd. I can understand that she wants her wedding to be diffrent but that’s just weird.

  4. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    but really what does Phaedra expect these ladies to NOT discuss her lying for months as to how far along the baby was all she had to do was take em aside and say im lying for my moms sake they all would have gotten it and left it alone Wig may be a bitch but she actually does seem to know some stuff about nurseing and face it she had the best line of the night I dont go around talking about how your husbands a convict LOL

    • HD says:

      Okay! That was the BEST line! I don’t care what Phaedra had to say that was a stone cold slap in the face.

      Everyone on this board knows that I think Kim is a manipulator and all of that but Kim is an LPN.

      What made me mad about Phaedra is I know her tactics. She does not deal with the due date issue but instead mentions Big Poppa or just because you wear a nurses uniform does not make you a nurse, etc. How about you deal with the issue at hand. Phaedra is a liar. You lied no one cares but don’t go around making this about people talking about your unborn baby in a negative way. No one did that but she will make it appear that way because of course NO ONE should talk about an unborn baby. She gets on my nerves.

      On WWHL she just made me dislike her even more. She is a liar! She lied about meeting her husband in college. HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL! Which leads me to wonder, was Phaedra with him while he was doing his illegal activities?

      • quincyil says:

        Kim said last night that she is an RN. LPN have less education than RNs. There is something off there.

        I absolutely loved Nene’s clothes. The peach divided on shoulder dress on Nene’s skin color was breath taking. I saw NeNe with purple eye shadow a while back and I swore she was Nefretiti.

        I am going to give Phaedra time to find her way in the show. A lot of women come in after the show begins and they have trouble getting used to hearing all of the gossip. That’s want we watch after all. The stars gossipping about each other. I think the drama comes when one person hears what another is saying. Reunion battles come after they all listen to each other’s interview.

        I have to be honest and say that I like listening to their comments, but I try never to gossip of listen to gossip in the real world because it affects how I interact with people that I have interact with. This is a guilty pleasure…listening to these ladies point out the obvious each week.

        • LynnnSoCal says:

          Phaedra has been on other shows though, right? She’s also supposedly playing a character on RHOA. I get obsessed and start tearing up cyberspace to get info. I’ve read severap articles covering this. I need to start files, then I can paste them in to back up my comments. It’s raining again and I’m off work two weeks for the holidays. It’s doable. Thanks Lynn and Quincy for your above and beyond efforts. Always entertaining. Aloha

          • quincyil says:

            This would be an excellent blog. It’s not my place to say, but there won’t be many new shows next week and Lynn does like to have content in the blog every day. Why don’t you put that together and send it to Lynn. You see that many board members have had their comments and blogs as guests. Your idea is very good. Research, write in your Word then send it to Lynn.

            • LynnnSoCal says:

              Maybe I will send her a “just the facts ma’am” file. Then she and you can pull from it for your blogs. I’ve got the Bravo contract too. Interesting! So much out there about Camille and her so-called friends. Love for you to use it.

            • LynnnSoCal says:

              I’ve tried twice to post link and not even my comment is posting. WTH! So try this: sagwatchdog.com/bravo reality contract. SAG has issues with them because reality shows skirt around writing/acting compensation by claiming they really aren’t scripted. IMHO: puh leez!

              • quincyil says:

                I sent a copy of your link after googling to Lynn’s email and I made sure to give her the time of your post and your name.
                It was a great find. I’m sure Lynn will read the contract.

                • LynnnSoCal says:

                  Sure thing Quincy, anything to further broaden our info base. I found it while researching the “reality” of reality tv. My friend is a WGA member and is a wealth of facts also. He writes for tv and movies. I will hit him up next time I see him. From Thousand Oaks to Santa Barbara we are inundated with industry people. I like having access to knowledge of any kind.

                  • quincyil says:

                    So interesting…

                    I have spoken to Steven Spielberg at our movie show. He used to come here on a lot of holidays to visit his wife’s family. He was a regular person too. His daughter and my daughter knew each other from the Brown U rowing team.

                    • LynnnSoCal says:

                      I not really star struck too badly, but I have to admit I’m thrilled you got to meet and speak with him. I saw him on the fwy once. His vanity plate was really cute and obviously from his kids. He has always seemed like a pleasant person.

                  • twoile says:

                    @LynnnSoCal Tx 4 the “extra” very interesting.
                    Tx Lynn 4 a gr8 blog as is ur usual high standard.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I saw NeNe with purple eye shadow a while back and I swore she was Nefretiti.

          I don’t know about Nefretiti but she acts like she thinks she is the Queen of Sheba.

      • HD says:

        Okay…I just saw the mug shot picture. Yes, she was with him while he was doing his illegal activities. He was booked for something 5/28/09 they got married in November of 09 so she was with him. Which makes me dislike her even more.

        I don’t care what her husband did. That is his business. And honestly. I kind of like him. He is quiet and just there. LOL! But Phaedra’s lying to try to make Apollo seem like something other than what he is, is what irks me!! It appears that she would marry someone of “upper crust” society and she ended up with a young, ex con. She doesn’t want to admit that but it is the truth. Which is why I loved Kim calling her on it. But of course that’s sooooooooooo 1950’s. LOL!

        • quincyil says:

          I think doctors and lawyers are not supposed to date the people that they work for…Maybe, that is an ancient idea.

          • HD says:

            Maybe someone that is a lawyer here can tell us if this is an unwritten rule or a real law.

            Phaedra has never said Apollo was her client but she lies so much who knows? It would seem if you are dating a lawyer and you got into trouble she would represent you. If she didn’t represent him (because she might be halfway intelligent and could see the conflict of interest) she got one of her lawyer friends to do it. She is such a compulsive liar that I don’t believe half the stuff coming out of her mouth.

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          Shade is never out od style LOL
          And Kim is a shady shady “lady”

      • kbinldo says:

        An RN requires a bachelor’s degree. LVNs only need an associate’s degree. My aunt, who was an RN, said if you’re going to go into nursing, go for the RN because you’ll have more opportunities to advance (administration, teaching, etc).

        • kmuellfa says:

          Not necessarily, some states (if not most) you can get an associates degree (ADN) and sit for the NCLEX and get a RN license.

          However, a RN is a RN. There has been debate about this fact within the industry for a long time.

          • JKW says:

            I don’t know how many are left but there are also 3 yr diploma nursing programs associated with hospitals. They bring in college courses but you basically live at the hospital and are used as unpaid ( actually you pay ) help. However, you learn and do alot more hands on nursing since you are in the hospital alot more than a BS or Assoc.

            • kmuellfa says:

              Yeah, there are a few still out there. Believe me, when I decided I wanted to be a nurse, I did extensive research on the ins and outs of getting a RN.

          • kbinldo says:

            Well, this was a few decades ago when she told me this. She was an Army Nurse in WWII & she taught everyone how to make beds with “hospital corners” & how to make the sheets so tight you could bounce quarters off the bed. 🙂

    • Golden Girl says:


    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think the irony of the line was that Kim DOES talk about Apollo being an ex-con.

  5. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    PS Lynn besides Danielle from NJ do you know of any LIVING dinos LOL

  6. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Lynn – Atlanta ladies are the funniest franchise.
    Kim will always be Kim so by now you should not be surprised that she is the only planet in her solar system.
    Today between errands and snowflakes, I will ponder the question, “If we can only keep one of the new housewives, which one would it be?”

  7. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    I cant believe no one has mentioned Miss DeWrong and that OUTFIT om that hat was the funniest thing on the show since the men in heels LOL
    I guess Dwights role on the show this year is chief trouble maker
    but that outfit i cant stop cringing at that outfit

  8. kmuellfa says:

    One thing I noticed last night, Kim said she was/is a “Registered Nurse”. She said in a previous episode that she was a LPN (licensed practical nurse). These are NOT the same thing.
    For some reason, this annoys me.

    • neroes says:

      It bothers me too. I’m an LPN. My sister is an RN and she has a lot more education than I have. An LPN should never claim to have an RN license.

      • quincyil says:

        I didn’t see your post, but above I thought the same thing. RNs are in school longers. Next week, there is a document pulled from a purse, so we may know more. Different states have different requirements. Kim went to U Conn. I’ve gone by that many times. It’s a good school.

        • neroes says:

          Okay I just looked it up and Kim was a Licensed Practical Nurse #LPN059799. Her license has lapsed. I found it at the Georgia dept. of health site. Kimberleigh Marie Zolciak, 10486 Bent Tree View, Duluth GA 30097, License issue date 10/28/1999. License expiration date 3/31/2003.

      • kmuellfa says:

        Kim is a LPN.


        Neroes, thank you. LPN’s are invaluable members of a healthcare team, and I mean no disrespect to LPN’s. I am currently enrolled in nursing school (I will be a RN), and am learning more about delegation and what the different roles of LPN vs RN entail. In Illinois, LPN’s must work under the supervision of a RN.

        All nursing programs are highly competitive, and just for example, my program usually enrolls about 180 students a year, and only 50-70 end up graduating. My school also has a 100% NCLEX rate (which means all grads pass the licensing exam).

        • neroes says:

          Alot of the LPN’s in my class went on to become RN’s. It’s easier to get into school for RN if you have your LPN licence. Me, I did it 2 years ago at the age of 61 so I’m not going on. However the school I went to also has an excellent rate of students passing the NCLEX. Probably because if your grades slip below a B you get dropped. The states differ for keeping your license. In Florida we have to have a certain # of hours of continuing education every 2 years.

          • kmuellfa says:

            Wow, you got your LPN at 59? Good for you, and I don’t blame you for not wanting to go back to school.

            I would encourage any LPN to get the RN because you definitely get more bang for your buck in terms of investing in your education. I have learned it doesn’t really apply to RN to BSN or RN to MSN (except for certain specialties), which is a shame for the whole profession.

            • Buffywood says:

              Regardless of which degree you have, anyone that has ever been in a hospital, had a baby, or sick and scared about what is wrong owes BOTH a huge Thank You. Seriously, I had some bad neurological issues about 15 years ago and I still remember the name of the nurse who helped me and stayed with me well after her shift had ended. Even my doctor would joke that the doctors there knew better than to “piss off the nurses as they are the ones who really run this place”.

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                my mother died while on vacation with my Dad. I made it the hospital in time for her passing because the head nurse had her husband, who was at home recuperating from a triple bypass (!), pick me up at the airport and drive 100mph to get me to my mother’s bedside in time.

                There are not enough words in the English language to explain the gratitude I feel to this day for that nurse and her family’s kindness.

                My Dad wrote a letter to the local newspaper singling her out for praise, as well as the rest of the hospital staff. The newspaper printed it, and we sent her a gift, and exchange xmas cards every year.

          • JKW says:

            Now this has been a long time ago…but several of the people that studied their ass off and got the good grades were the ones that didn’t pass their boards. Back then you didn’t take a certain section over again…you sat for the whole thing. No computer either, we sat in a hot ass room for 2 days, keeping your eyes on your paper. It was fall so my allergies were killing me and my nose ran through the whole thing. Fun times !

        • Christine says:

          Very good link. Both documents clearly state that Kim has an LPN degree. If she is claiming that she went to UCONN, our Kim is lying again. UCONN’s school of Nursing does not offer an LPN program. They start with RNs (a Bachelor’s degree) and go all the way up to Master’s and Doctorates – which would apply for some Nurse practitioner positions and teaching careers.
          Just Google UCONN’s School of Nursing site.
          Having lived in Connecticut for most of my life I have known a great number of Nursing school grads and Kim just doesn’t appear the type to have been able to compete with the level of academia required.

          • kmuellfa says:

            Yeah, I was wondering about the UConn thing. Most LPN/LVN programs are 1 year long and available at community colleges.

          • twoile says:

            @ Christine I too had researched UCONN several mos ago & you r correct…Kim most definately does not ‘measure up” to what is expected 2 perform at really any level in Nursing…which may account 4 her “few” yrs in the profession, outside of the obvious choices she aparently made.

      • knocknoc says:

        Maybe, Kim knows that the State where
        she graduated from requires anyone in
        the nursing field to be registered prior to
        working. She feels justified saying she is
        registered, however, not the more qualified
        work experience and education.
        A little bit of fudging but she is trying to
        appear more qualified than she is. Not
        fooling us but making herself appear higher
        on the totem pole.

    • TLM says:

      There wasn’t a need for Kim to embellish the LPN, since an RN doesn’t necessarily know more about labor & delivery. I am sure that a midwife or doula has even more experience in this area, even though those titles don’t have as much prestige as an RN.

      Phaedra now claims she fudged the dates on the pregnancy because hers was high-risk. I still don’t see how that worked out. She apparently was hospitalized for part of it, which I would think would be hard to conceal from your castmates when you are taping for Housewives. Everyone knew she was pregnant, so what difference would it make to tell people how far along she was? It had nothing to do with being high-risk.

      Who else thinks the story of how they met is crazy as hell? I am almost wondering if the real story is worse, and this is another one of Phaedra’s coverups. They were on a highway driving and a random stranger motions to her to pull over? And she DID? I would sooner believe she met him because she represented him in his arrest. An earlier story I read about them said they met in college, so I thought I already knew how they met, until this little tale spilled out. I guess that was a lie too?

  9. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    if we can only keep one of the new ones i would vote for Cynthia she seemed to genuinely care about NeNe

  10. HD says:

    Kim does not have a new stylist. That is the same guy but for some reason he has some crazy black hair now. Remember he brought her the tank tops and the shoes and when she was “engaged” to Big Poppa he said she was going to have to dress conservatively. I will never forget his voice. That is the same man who looks a hot mess with that long black hair.

    • quincyil says:

      Those were interesting choices for clothes. Kim is the most “hookerish” of all of the housewives when it comes to style.

  11. HD says:

    You know when I think about this….

    Nene got Jermaine Dupri…who used to manage Escape which Kandi was a member (they also slept together and some say that is what ruined the group.) Also Tiny was a member of Escape who is friends with Kandi who was also on the BET show Tiny and Toya in which Phaedra produced.

    This all seems a little orchestrated.

    • quincyil says:

      Being filmed on a Bravo show helps too. If you want PR, that is…

    • JKW says:

      Thanks HD…I had no clue who Jermaine Dupree was. I am not crazy about that type of music. I think Kandi has a nice voice but I don’t really like her songs.

  12. error 404 says:

    Great blog and just goes to show you how much we can all see different things, as I disagree with a lot of it! lol

    Phaedra is past her sell by date for me. I flat out refused to watch WWHL because Phae and Apollo are obvious fame whores and I refuse to give them another second on their 15 minutes. They are the Terik and Michaele of Atlanta and I won’t clap for that.

    So Kim is an RN, so what. Totally believable. I have no idea why people are making a big deal of it, like she’s claiming to be a brain surgeon or a something. I have no doubt that she could easily have gotten an RN’s education. She’s not a total moron, she jsut plays one for TV. And please bitch, you keep telling us your a lawyer like every 5 minutes but we have yet to see you do one thing on the show that doesn’t make you look like a total backwoods inbred retard, so who are you to be demanding to see other people’s documentation. Idiot. HW’s like Phae are the worst, because caught in a bold faced lie, she decides the best thing to do is act all indignant that the others dared, DARED! to question her almightiness. Bitch please, you’re a lying sack of shit, so let’s move on.

    The whole scene with Cyn at the venue, we could hardly hear all of Nene dull moaning because we two overgrown boys we’re squealing so loud about what a cool place to get married it was and how great the wedding would be. If Cyn is ‘weird” and the other 5 women are “normal”, please book me a ticket to planet Cynthia because I have no interest in living anywhere near the other brain dead morons.

    I wonder if they drew straws, because Sheree was designated shit stirrer at the spa.

    Kandi, Kandi Kandi….. what is wrong with you? You are a strong single woman with a strong career and a beautiful child born out of traditional wedlock… so when so idiot hillybilly ignoramus tell you to your face that she is superior because her kid was born in traditional wedlock and she has an admitted thief as a spouse and that you are evil and damed to hell, you sit there and just silently take it. But she was bashing Kim,s o it’s ok, right? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Whatever.

    If you think we are suppose to feel sorry for you for picking the lazy untalented Kim Z as an opener, a thing you did just for publicity, then you are wrong. Anyone who met Kim for 5 minutes could tell you she is lazy and can;t sing or dance, so complaining about it only highlights how stupid you were for picking her. We all know the real reason, so just shut up.

    And lastly, can someone please explain to me how Nene being assigned only black celebrities only to interview for the mostly white TV station isn’t racist? Between all of the J-Z, Oprah, and Bow-wow was there a Taylor Swift or a Mila Kunis I missed? My understanding is that it’s 2010 and different races are allowed to call each other on the phone, and one doesn’t need their son’s white friend to call Justin Bieber for them.

    • HD says:

      I didn’t see it as racist. I see it as these people trying to go after people that Nene may know or have some connection to in the entertainment world. She was the one tossing out names like Tyler Perry and Queen Latifah. I think to have Oprah and Jay Z on the list was a little farfetched.

      However I think it is her starting out and perhaps she may branch out. But generally most people of one race tend to know people of that race. I am Black. I generally hang out with Black people. I know White people, I am friends with White people but the majority of the people around me are Black. If someone told me to put together a poetry event, you can bet most of the poets would be Black because that is who I am around and who I know. Out of all the poets I know in my city, one is White. Are there more White poets, OF COURSE! Do we hang in the same circles, no we do not.

      So I don’t think it was racist. I think this is Atlanta entertainment for someone branching out in a new career and they are going to try to hook people that she MIGHT know or MIGHT have a connection to. Do we REALLY think Nene knows someone that knows Taylor Swift? Highly unlikely. She may eventually go on to interview Taylor Swift who I had no clue who she was until Kanye West put her name on the map. I hope she sent him a gift basket. Just sayin’…

      • quincyil says:

        Does Ne Ne know Oprah? Oprah’s friend, Gail, is on NBC news shows like Joe Scarbourough so I think she has an connection to NBC. Ne Ne could interview Gail… if she thinks Oprah is too big a star.

        I think Oprah is very nice. I met her in a McDonalds on Michigan Ave in Chicago. She watched a table full of nieces, nephew and my kids so I could get their food. She talked to them the whole time. She actually thought it was a day care but the kids set her straight.

        • HD says:

          What is that…six degrees of seperation? She probably knows someone that knows someone that knows Oprah but I wouldn’t bank on that. I am sure getting Oprah to sit down for an interview would take someone major like hmmm who just did that -Barbara Walters.

          I have never met Oprah (as if I would ever have that opportunity lol) but I can imagine she is just as you described. Most people tend to forget that celebrities are just regular people.

        • Adgirl says:

          Quincy I love celeb stories like that.
          You met Oprah in a McDonalds? I believe that.
          She watched a table full of nieces, nephew and your kids? I believe that.
          You had a bus load of young kids with you in downtown Chicago? I do NOT believe that! Quincy, I thought you were smart! That’s a crazy idea. Whatcha doin with all those screaming kids in the city??

          • quincyil says:

            A van full. My sister and mother went to a promotion ceremony in the post office and I had my nieces, my nephew and my kids at the hotel pool. Then we walked to McDonalds for food. Irish Catholics have large families.

      • error 404 says:

        I understand how it happens, but that doesn’t make it right. I realize that Nene is an intern, that her foot in the door is bringing in her famous friends. If she’s lucky, this will change. Matt Lauer doesn’t just interview other balding white guys, etc… and when Kayne was on, they didn’t have to have Al interview him. I get it, these are the people Nene knows, but I just think there’s something off about the show.

        Please, why is Kim Z gasping to the camera about Nene potentially dating a white guy? She sleeps with women and married men, but Nene saying she might consider a dating a white guy shocks you? Talk about “This isn’t the 1950s!” lol

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          This is a very interesting discussion about “race relations” (that sounds very 1950’s doesn’t it) and I do see both sides of the coin.

          Like HD I think it is easier to find commonalities with people who live in the same community, and look like me. (slightly OT- I cannot get that line from the song that was in Dreamgirls-Jennifer Holiday sang it first “we come from the same place, the same time” out of my head right now)

          However, like @error404, it irritated me that NeNe was assigned only AFAM celebrities. I don’t think it was out and out “racist”- but certainly “racial” and sort of put her in a box- like ok- here’s a black celebrity so all she is capable of is interviewing other black celebrities.

          I am cautiously optimistic about NeNe’s chances for success, she seems to have a work ethic and a drive- she may surprise all of us yet.

          • quincyil says:

            We are forgetting this is Atlanta and it’s the Mecca for Black Celebrities. I saw a CNN documentary on Atlanta. It’s the place to be.

            • error 404 says:


              isn’t CNN HQed in Atlanta? Well, doesn’t NBC have a hit show about working on a hit show at 30 Rock? So I guess tooting your own horn is ok in TV land.

              • quincyil says:

                It was a great special.

                I took a tour of the CNN building and you actually see some of the news rooms that are on tv. It was worth a visit.

                • Kansas Girl says:

                  Me too. I used to know one of the weather men and he gave us the royal tour. It was very Wag The Dog — they can cut film to say anything. We saw that the sets only look good from the front, and up close you can see that they’re stapled together. Their news reader set-up was a camera aimed straight down at a conveyor belt. They laid news stories on it (could change them out quickly) and that was projected to a TV that was the teleprompter. I was amazed at how cheap and rickety it all was, but it sure looks good on TV.

            • Amber...Real Wife says:

              What is most amazing is the fact that her list, mostly African-American, should’ve include celebrities that LOVE the HW’s franchises. Ashton Kutcher and Demi are big Nene fans, like Anderson Cooper, Kelly Ripa and Mark etc. Focusing on just the local community may be for logistics, and the budget for her new spot doesn’t include airfare or hotel for her and the team.

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          it shocked Kim because before NeNe said it to her she had never expressed any such desire and also i agree with the other person that said some of those names were people Nene suggested because she had a slight connection to them

      • UnderMyWheels says:

        I laughed that you capitalized White & Black. It just tickled me 🙂

      • debbie says:

        CNN is based in Atlanta.. Where’s Anderson Cooper’s base? He’s Nene’s Number One Fan..She should call him for an interview.

    • quincyil says:

      The dinosaurs were a bit much, but having weddings in large public places is a way for museums to make extra money in their closed hours. It costs a lot to heat and pay insurance. I would try for Atlanta’s High Museum if I was Cynthia. That was a beautiful building filled with fantastic paintings and statues. I could see some photos of the tall bride in with the female statues as very interesting photos…

      • Adgirl says:

        Yeah that would be so much nicer, but Bravo is probably paying for the event and this was the venue they are getting for free.

  13. klmh says:


    I have been out of town and am 2.9 blogs behind, but wanted to let you know I loved your comparison from the BH segment with Camille setting Kyle up to “The Art of War”. This book would never be on my reading list, but I appreciate your research into the book and pointing out the similarities between the two. Fabulous!

    • quincyil says:

      Your welcome. Several other people here noticed that book and had it in mind too. It’s amazing how so many of us come up with the same ideas.

      • Buffywood says:

        If you have a Kindle it is on the Free List…

      • klmh says:

        I noticed when Camille was reading the book a few segments past, but it was the comparison you brought into the discussion, the “All warfare is based on deception” paragraph, that was enlightening…

        • quincyil says:

          I looked at a web site that has photos of Camille in black out, but provocative poses on a boat. It’s shocking that she would call Faye morally corrupt, when she uses US flag like pieces of cloth for her photos. Why would she think we would not see all of this?

          She may have had lingerie on in “Playboy,” but she is showing her goodies under the black out box for sure in those photos.

          I am no fan of Faye, but Camille really shouldn’t talk.

          • Adgirl says:

            This may sound crass, but when Nicole died the ensuing events probably absorbed a lot of Faye’s time over the years (police interviews, legal depos etc) so I don’t think poorly of her trying to recoup some money via Playboy or quicky books about Nicole. If it had been the other way around I’ll bet Nicole would have done exactly the same. Just my thoughts on the topic.

          • alicia says:

            I think camille’s pics are alot worse- why would she even bring this up knowing her illustrious past ? Camille is not very smart but she wastes alot of time trying to prove she is. She should really try to work on just being a better parent.

            • DJ Fruit Loops says:

              or at the very least a better person
              she thrives on negativity you cant tell by her choice of actual friends
              both of those women that were friends of hers at the party are ta rash

          • BessiB says:

            Well, It’s Patriotic! LOL

          • TLM says:

            It was interesting that it was ok to Camille that her friends — the flying monkeys she placed on either side of her — were “defending her”, but it somehow wasn’t ok for Faye to defend her friend Kyle when Kyle was attacked? I never heard anything so twisted as for Camille to say she was “set up” at this dinner. It seems the setting up was all Camille’s doing. She sprung the invite on Kyle, who already had plans with Faye, and said she could come. How exactly did Kyle premeditate that one?

            And do we really believe Camille had no idea who Faye Resnick was? Was Camille incapable of typing Faye’s name into Google prior to the dinner (or, let’s be realistic, telling her house manager to do so)? And why was she talking about Faye at the table like she wasn’t even there? “Who is Faye? I don’t know Faye” directed at Kyle, instead of saying to Faye, “How do you and Kyle know each other?” Just rude. And then, of course, the Playboy comment, which was about as subtle as a bomb going off. How does Camille think she’s fooling anyone?

            It seems the set-up here happened when Camille brought Allison to this dinner “but as a guest” to sit there and brag about her “gift”, yet to refuse to do any readings, baiting people into asking her for them. To ensure she would be extra-bitchy and rude, Camille served her about 30 drinks.

            Allison destroyed any credibility she had by saying what she did to Kyle. She talked about Kyle maybe having to get divorced and laughed hysterically about it, then said her husband would never fulfill her and that they would have nothing in common when her kids got older. Then she later said, “I can tell her when she will die. I love that about me.”

            Not only was all of this vicious, I don’t believe any genuine psychic would say these things to someone. At the very least, I would think they would do a reality check and ask the person if they are happy in their marriage. This snake took very obvious glee in telling Kyle something humiliating in front of a roomful of people, and attacking her marriage. Gee, that couldn’t have anything to do with Camille’s empty shell of a marriage and hatred of Kyle, could it? Of course not! These two think they’re so clever, don’t they.

            I wonder if Allison predicted the demise of her own career from this episode. You’ve got two legs last we checked, Allison…take a walk. And don’t come back.

  14. WindyCityWondering says:

    Phaedra will continue to evade the due date question – it is a simple one to answer and it is burned in the brain of every expectant mother when the OB/GYN announces it! She has a husband – big deal – that doesn’t change the due date. And as far as saying other people are going to hell, she will be there to greet them! Hmmmm, Hmmmmm, Hmmmmm!

    The other thing that bothered me was how and when she meet Apollo…..college aged individuals are not interested with high schoolers. Maybe her sparkling personality and superior ways just didn’t play well with the college set…. Hmmmmm, Hmmmmm, Hmmmmm!

    • quincyil says:

      LOL…. who knows about love…. Apollo seems hot, but I have a feeling that he was her client at some time. There’s no evidence of this yet. I’d still like a nomination to be our board sooth sayer.

    • HD says:

      Right! What college age woman do you know that is dating high school boys?! YUCK! Granted Apollo said he lied about his age but after I found out you lied that would have been the end of it.

      I’m gonna tell you what happened…Apollo put it down in the bedroom. That’s it. He hit it real good and Phaedra was not giving that up. Period. He is an ex-con, I don’t think he has been to college, but none of that matters, he was hittin’ it well and Phaedra said, “whatever! I’ll take sex with Apollo for a hundred Alex!” That’s what happened. Mark my words!

      Phaedra is not some innocent Southern Belle. She is a freak and Apollo catered to her freak tendencies. Any time you know a man that can pleasure himself and you say that in front of your husband, you are a freak. I would NEVER mention in front of my husband that I know a man that could do that. Chile, please!

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        “He hit it real good”

        ahhh- sometimes our HD just sums it all up in the most succinct and pithy way.

        Love you…((((HD))))

      • Ruby Newbie says:

        Don’t you think the story of how they met was super strange? I mean, honking and waving on the highway…you let him follow you HOME?? A stranger? From the highway? You led him to you house?? Phaedra, really? The haughtiness may be a cover up for the sheer desperation. I hear she had flings (booty calls) with some rappers too. Maybe men who run in the circles she’d like to run in aren’t interested. Too used up. Thus, enter the young, dumb, ex-con, kept man…beggars can’t be choosers.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        That’s exactly what happened.

        The Southern Belle thing is just a facade, she is really just a super freak with a law degree.

      • DJ Fruit Loops says:

        i know several men that can do that LOL and so does my “hubby” all it takes is being double jointed
        now as to why they do it im guessing its the very same reason dogs lick themselfs
        because they can LOL

      • twoile says:

        @HD I second that!

    • MoDee says:

      My grandmother had a saying which others here may have heard…”The first baby can come at anytime, but the 2nd baby is always 9 months” and lo and behold I figured out later in life that my father was born at “7 Mos.” boy, was I a dumb kid. lol

  15. error 404 says:

    I got married in an old barn. Well, technically I got married under an old tree, then had the reception in an old barn. All of my guests loved it because they are just as “weird” as I am. I think the huge sculptures that the dino bones make are so cool, and the airy high space was great. I just hope that Cyn’s guests are as “weird” as she is and get it. But she did choose to share it with mainstream America, so at least she’ll be able to say she made an impact, as people seem to think getting married in a museum is the strangest thing they’ve ever been exposed to in their lives.

    I just wish these HWs would stop referring to each other as “friends”. They may have real friends in real life, but these women are not friends to each other. They all act the opposite of how friends would.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I was born in an old barn- so we’re almost related!

      My mother went into labor 1/2 hr. outside an Army base in Munich, and my dad couldn’t make it back to the base in time. A German farmer and his wife helped my mom bring me into the world. When my dad tried to thank them they told him it was just like birthing a calf. LOL

      So I think I would like to get married in an old barn- full circle you know? I think it could be done in a very elegant and classy way.

      • quincyil says:

        Great… the wedding in 2030 will be in my barn. I will sweep and scrub the cement floor. I have Christmas lights that we can hang from the ceiling.

        There’s no way the horses will stay in the field if people are dancing so each stall will have a horse watching us like we were the animals in the zoo.

  16. error 404 says:

    Oh, one rant I forgot to add… gosh I’m cranky this am! lol

    When Nene told Cyn that she’d been making fun of her behind her back with Kim, I thought she had every right to be pissed off. Yet she handled it with cool. That didn’t stop Nene from totally flying off the handle and overreacting as usual. Cyn is perfectly calm explaining her feelings, yet Nene jumps up and starts screaming that Cynthia is yelling. LOL Yeah, I know. Screaming at the top of her lungs is just Nene’s normal tone of voice, but it was funny to see Nene totally freaking out over nothing. Like Phaedra, she has learned the fine art of blaming the victim when confronted with your own mistakes. What do you do when someone calls you out on your bad behavior? Make a scene and start screaming at them! lol

    • quincyil says:

      I really like it when you are in a dither, error101… Your energy pulls me along and I don’t need that second cup of coffee.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I totally agree. I didn’t feel that Cynthia ‘yelled’ at NeNe. I also thought it was pretty weak for Nene to say something to the effect ‘You want me to come to you and tell you things but when I do, you get mad’. Sorry but that is such crap, NeNe seems to think that if she confesses her indiscretions then that’s all there is to say- case closed- no rebuttal or reply and certainly no accountability.

      NeNe Leaks is an egotistical bitch, she is a funny bitch but a bitch none the less.

    • DJ Fruit Loops says:

      take into account she is seperating from her husband she is bound to be a little stressed out

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Cynthia was getting married and her and her husband where about lose their business. NeNe (as much as she would like to think it) isn’t the only person in the world with a story.

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          she may not be the only one but when your going thru a divorce its gonna seem like its only happening to you

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Wasn’t Nene projecting her anger when she did that?

  17. Buffywood says:

    When my daughter was in 2nd she switched schools. Apparently when she made the switch she decided to “re-invent” herself and started telling lie to the other kids. Her teacher called me about it and she and I had a little talk.

    I basically told her that when you lie you are calling those you are lying to stupid. Once you are caught lying you will lose trust in the eyes of your friends and once lost if is very hard to ever get back. The best thing you can do is come clean with your friends, tell them the truth, explain why you lied, and hope they will understand. That is exactly what she did and now in 8th grade they are all still friends.

    I am sorry but if a grown woman can’t understand this then she is a flippin’ idiot regardless of what type of education she has. Why on earth wouldn’t Kandi say something when Phaedra was speaking to Kim? I am hopeful that she did but Bravo in its evil wisdom chose not to show it. I guarantee if she had the nerve to say something to me about having a baby out of wedlock I sure would have put that bitch in her place and not EVER forgive her until she came clean. Actually I wouldn’t have forgiven her anyway but I can be the queen of grudges, I would have written her off permanently.

    • Buffywood says:

      Along those same lines, I feel her lying about her husband is extremely insulting to him. He is who is he is, he made mistakes, so what? Why does she lie? So he doesn’t reflect badly on her? Why people can’t simply own up to their mistake and move forward is beyond me. He seems like a pretty good guy and more importantly a good father.

      • quincyil says:

        It’s common for 7 year olds to make up stories especially when under the pressure that a child is when they move and have to make new friends. A while back, I wrote that I though Phaedra has an attenuated emotional development. I thought she was made to be silent as she was growing up and probably was disciplined by her stick parents as she spoke of spanking her child. You see this in neglected children too. It just sounded like her parents wanted kids to be neither seen nor heard when she talked on screen.

        • Ruby Newbie says:

          That can be true of preacher’s kids. Then they grow up and some go wild and some are just socially inept. I know a few in both categories. I know a PK who doesn’t date, still lives at home, rarely goes anywhere without her parents, kinda sad. She’s also been treated for depression…hmmm…wonder why?

          Phaedra probably came from the other camp–went wild. Maybe that’s why she lies so much. Trying to cover her tracks, perhaps?

          • jezzibel says:

            I remember a similar converstation but it was about both Preachers kids and Cops Kids, I grew up a military brat so I saved my crazy until I turned 18 and joined the military myself.

            • MoDee says:

              It’s true about the cop’s kids, my niece and 2 nephews went wild and crazy their teenaged years (their father was/is a cop) and even today they don’t feel that they can really talk to their dad, because he’s got that cocky cop attitude and authoritive tone of voice…which grates on my nerves.

  18. TrueLifeDiva says:

    The swelling in Phaedra’s lips seems to be going down since she gave birth. Now someone needs to tell her to stop tilting her her so far back in her talking head interviews.
    Kim trying to make Phaedra admit the truth about her due date was ridiculous. As ridiculous as Kim insisting that Big Poppa is “going thru a divorce” for the last three years. But no actual divorce papers ever filed. Kim is the last person who needs to be calling ANYONE out on a lie. It was funny to watch her scowl and only her nose and mouth scrunched up with the effort. Kim calling Guitar Trader for a bedazzled mic was too funny. The Swarskies on that microphone aint gonna miraculously autotune your voice, honey.

  19. kmuellfa says:

    I don’t think anyone cares that Fakedra was pregnant when she got married, except for Fakedra. I think what most rational people are offended by is the fact that she tries to portray this image of being a high-class proper southern belle and decides to kerfuffle her due date.
    She seems to be the only person on the planet (except maybe her pastor parents) who thinks that she would be knocked down a peg on the social register for getting knocked up when she was single.
    She had to create this elaborate back story (Apollo was 10 lbs at 6 months, the baby was sitting on her bladder, not knowing her due date, etc) in order to explain why she gave birth when she did. Combine that with the fact that she comes across as a superficial, elitist, perhaps racist, and judgmental bitch and you end up with commentary and gossip by the other HW.
    In my mind, she started this, so too bad for Fakedra if she doesn’t like it.

    • quincyil says:

      No body cares. If she hadn’t brought it up, we probably would not have known.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Everything else aside. Did anyone else notice that once again an Atlanta Housewife had nothing bad to say about cast members when talking to Andy? Apparently these ladies get along well enough not to flay each other every time they are on WWHL or at reunion shows.

      And of course Phaedra talked circles around the due date issue with Andy. She never answered the question. She talked around it until they ran out of time. I am pretty sure they teach ’em that in law school. The same thing with turning it back around on Kim about Big Poppa. I have seen lawyers doing the same thing on “In Session” on TruTV. Its a defensive trick. How many times has a defense lawyer done the same thing with a rape victim when they bring their clothing or “loose morals” in as a defense.

      Phaedra may not be much of a human being, although Kandi is right and she seems to have switched to Mommy-mode okay, but she seems like she is probably a darn good attorney.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I caught that whole ‘people didn’t know it was a high risk pregnancy back story’ as a clear diversion and attempt to gain sympathy.

        Yes Phaedra, people are well aware inductions for medical reasons before the baby is full term- bu that’s not what happened with you. You were FULL TERM and lied about it so it looked like you weren’t pregnant till after you were married.

        What is wrong with her, she has no issue talking about men performing fellatio on themselves introducing food products to your va-jay jay but you can’t admit to getting pregnant before you were married?

        • Earring Girl says:

          I am sorry but my feelings for Phaedra is still – I. Can’t.Stand. Her. I know people like Phaedra, she is one of those people who thinks she is protective from everything because her parents are ministers and she probably goes to church every Sunday and pray. I find her comments and everytime she has air time it’s all sexual and disgusting. When she said the weight of the baby on the show all I could say was “huh?” 7 lbs./23 ozs. I am glad Andy called her on that. I had a feeling WWHL would be a dud – Apolo and Phaedra??? I am sure Andy was bored out of his mind with those two, I know I was – the two just are not fun – she constantly lies and is always insuating something sexual that is just not funny to me. Apolo just one big muscle sitting in the chair. Ummm…ummmm…..Ugh!

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            The weirdest thing about that whole show was when Andy asked Apollo if he ever swam in the man pool.
            I don’t think Apollo saw that one coming.

  20. Amber...Real Wife says:

    My take…

    Nene was in 7th heaven as these women were “fighting” over her. They were showing more interest in her, than her own estranged husband. Greg would probably throw lighter fluid, instead of piss, if she was on fire (insurance). Too much? LOL

    Season 1 she was humiliated by Sheree first episode and dumped by Kim, becoming the unwanted outsider. S2 she reconciled with Sheree and Kim was the odd man out, and the victim of violence by the both of them. Now s3 both Sheree and Kim are interested in Nene and believe Cynthia is obsessed with her. They know Nene is the main draw in the series and are wary of Cynthia getting so much camera time.

    Nene so enjoyed Sheree bringing up the contract, Cynthia defending it, as a joke, and Kim dissecting it. Kim was like a dog with a bone, going through the contract by memory. Kim taking great issue with the wording, was feeling protective of Nene, insinuating that Cynthia was a little crazy. Meanwhile, she was exhibiting the same behaviour in “protecting” Nene. They are both NUTS. Nene only cares about herself in that circle. The sooner Cynthia realizes that the better off she’ll be.

  21. HD says:

    For all the lovely women on line discussing LPN or RN degrees, I don’t understand. This can all be REAL simple. Just apply to the school online that Dr. Tye went to and we all can have a RN degree today. Shoot, I might do brain surgery tomorrow. 🙂

    Kidding. 🙂 I am in a goofy mood today.

    • kmuellfa says:

      It is tempting….

      I could then be Dr. nurse Karen. I like it.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I think I am going to legally change my first name to Doctor, so when ever I am being paged and they say “Doctor XXXX, please come to the ticket counter” ect. I won’t be lying.

        Not to mention when someone says ‘Good to meet you Mrs. XXXX” I can say “Please call me Doctor’ without sounding like an uppity bitch.

    • neroes says:

      yeah and we can carry around our degrees in our back pockets and only show them if the other person can prove that they are male or female

  22. quincyil says:

    The spa fight was interesting, but surely that is not the big fight of the season. It pales in comparison to Allison, the medium, the table tipping of NJ, or the drunken bashes of OC.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO, in the housewives franchise – the spa would not qualify as a fight! No one got crazy or mean. No one called anyone nasty names. The reactions were more of embarrassment not horror. The big one is yet to come! And I predict that Dwight will be the sacrificial victim that starts it off.

  23. Debbie says:

    Off topic.. Does anyone know what happened to Camille’s blog on Bravo? Oh, and what is Melissa Gorga talking about? I am so damn nosy.

  24. Adgirl says:

    Cynthia: When I agreed to marry Peter my first thought was “dinosaur”.

  25. sss says:

    Kim and Phaedra are at the top of my list, along with Teresa, and Shereee, as the dumbest housewives with the most conceited sense of themselves. Cannot stand any of them. Just putting it out there.

    • Error404 says:

      Sheree has an enormous ego that never fails to shock me, but she does have a good delivery sense with the bitchy digs that makes me laugh.

      Kim z reminds me of that other hw who decided boinking wrinkly old men paid better than emptying their bedpans… Countless Lulu. Nursing golddiggers of the world unite! Lol

      Kim may not be a genius, but she’s no dummy either. She can’t sing or dance, so why bother practicing? So she can be just merely awful instead of completely awful? Please, she’s very smart not to waste the effort. She’s also smart enough to realize she’ll never support herself or her kids doing it. No, better to get knocked up by the ball player, much more fun, half the work and twice the pay! Lol

    • DJ Fruit Loops says:

      Sheree is far from dumb

      • Adgirl says:

        Kim is Anna Nicole Smith without the drugs. Just a big floozy.

        • TLM says:

          I used to think Kim was dumb. Now, I think Kim’s a genius. What woman do you know whose greatest career distinction was that she was a waitress at Bahama Breeze owns $14K diamond cuff bracelets, a nice house, kids in private school, and Louboutins in every style? And now she’s rid of the old married guy and has a young guy and no interruption to her lifestyle? Kim’s biggest dilemma on a daily basis is deciding what type of laser treatment to get. Must be nice.

          I say that tongue-in-cheek, but it’s amazing to me that people like Kim, who don’t seem to give a damn about anything and shrug off things that would concern others seem to have things always work out for them. I think we could all take something away from that. I’m the girl who always worried about things way ahead of time out of an abundance of caution, only to have things blow up, when friends I had who didn’t worry seemed to have success fall at their feet. Their is something weirdly admirable about Kim’s “I don’t give a crap” attitude about what others think of her. I am tempted to adopt “Keep it movin'” as my new mantra for 2011.

          Someone compared Kim to Anna Nicole. Anna Nicole actually had a much tougher life than Kim. She worked for most of the money she had through endorsements, and actually never got any of the J. Howard Marshall fortune, which I think is still being litigated.

  26. Jennifer Neehan says:

    I know this is off topic but I thought I would let the readers know – I made a couple of positive comments about Lynn and he page LynnChicago101 on the RealHousewivesBlog face book page and got banned from the page. What is their problems. I said this was a terrific site and Lynn put out great information and the court filings. So I am banned. I heard others were banned for making pro Lynn comments or anti Lindsey (the page creator) or Teresa Giucide comments. It is no biggie to me I seldom went there – just thought I would tell others if they want to make comments there, don’t mention this site or say anything that doesn’t compliment Teresa Giucide.


    • Adgirl says:

      Is that a Bravo run page?

      • quincyil says:

        It seems all of the Bravo shows have the page and the schedules are there. I don’t know who is running the page. I checked them for information, but I see no need to post anything there as I am here.

      • Jennifer Neehan says:

        No it is run by a girl called Lindsey Nitzsche who lives in Houston. She claims she is friends with many of the Housewives. Most of what is on the site is copied Twitters she got and cooing about Teresa.

        • Jennifer Neehan says:

          Here is much better. The bullying and vulgarity on the Real Housewives face book pages is outrageous. Shouldn’t be allowed. There are a few that rule and if you don’t cow-tow you are ridiculed and bullied off. The RealHousewives Blog is not part of Bravo – it is Lindsey Nitzsche’s page and is mainly a tribute to Teresa page. Yesterday she posted Teresa had been found faultless in all charges against, bankruptcy and all.

    • TLM says:

      Is that spelling of “Giudice” intentional? I think it’s hilarious! From now on we could refer to scamming the IRS as “committing Giucide.”

  27. Adgirl says:

    So what is Kim pulling out of her handbag next week to show Phaedra? Dr Tye’s google map?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      her nursing credentials – Phaedra picked the wrong crazy bitch to take on! Phaedra will not be able to embarrass her, belittle her, misdirect her – Kim knows how to fight. And because she has that big crazy lie hanging out there I doubt she will find any allies in the other housewives.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      What is up with this Atlanta crew and having to prove their education or degrees? I guess in Atlanta society people are more likely to believe you don’t have the education or documents to back your claim. They demand proof, meanwhile all they have to do is check professional registeries, or licensing departments. Only in Atlanta do people carry their degrees in the back jeans pocket, or designer bags! Oy vey.

      Meanwhile in Joisey, I’ve never seen anyone, but us, question TMAN’s education. She’s a college grad who claims her hubbie (the entree-pa-newer?) re-renovates properties. You gotta laugh!

      In NY, Bethenny started the charge on KellyKellonicKellade, doubting her getting any degree from Columbia/Colombia. We agreed. Kellidiot either majored in journalism or did major 8balls! LOL

      • TLM says:

        That raises a good point. If Kelly’s so into posting pics of everything from her sloppy cooking attempts to her fingernail clippings on the floor, why can’t she post a pic of her Columbia degree online? Or her transcript? That should set the record straight, right??

  28. aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

    Hey everyone,
    I have a question for Lynn and anyone familiar with Chicago….I want to surprise my husband next year and plan a getaway weekend to Chicago…does anyone have any tips or must-see places, good restaurants they can recommend? I want to plan a trip in the spring after my husband is finished his Master’s Degree….I definitely want to book the Architectural Tour as my husband would LOVE that……any other suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks! 🙂

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      Best steak place – Erie Cafe
      Best tourist place – Navy Yard
      Best Hotel – Doubletree (reasonable)
      Best Bar – Rush on Tavern

      • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

        Thanks Cdn fillie! (I’m in Canada too). I’ve stayed at the Doubletree Met in NYC before and loved it, so I am familiar with the chain.

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        Crap..I’m re-reading my post Navy Pier and Tavern on Rush..guess I’ve had too many visits at the Tavern 😛

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      There is an architectural tour from Navy Pier (boats around and has an interesting perspective), the Hilton Towers (ask for a lake view room as you can also see Grant Park) – you can walk to various museums, the park and down the Magnificent Mile to Water Tower Place. Restaurants are too numerous to list – what do you like to eat? Chinatown, Little Italy, Greektown. Maybe book dinner in the Hancock with a view of the city.

    • justanothermary says:

      I know nothing of Chicago – but if you ever want to go to Minot, ND, I’m your girl!

      • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

        lol! I love Minot, I’ve been there many times! My parents took us there all the time in the 1980s/1990s for back to school shopping and I’ve been there a few times since as an adult. I have fond memories of the Minot State Fair, the various hotels and going to Homesteaders Restaurant….lol

    • Had Enough! says:

      If you truly enjoy fine food, Alinea, the very famous creation of Grant Achatz. If you ever watch Top Chef, you will have seen Grant Achatz at least once or twice.

      • aquamarinecandy-083 says:

        Yes! I’ve heard of it (and Grant). The Alinea cookbook was featured on an episode of Anna & Kristina’s Grocery Bag (in Canada). Thanks for reminding me!

        • Had Enough! says:

          OMG, two places I would love to go – Topolobampo or Frontera Grill (Rick Bayless’ two Chicago restaurants).

      • Adgirl says:

        His food sounds a little weird, like that wd-50 guy’s.

        • Had Enough! says:

          Definitely positively not. At least 180 degrees from Wylie Dufresne. Bayless is famed for his authentic Mexican food (not comidas typicas, not that there is anything wrong with street food – I love it) but the flavors and styles of Mexican cuisine at its finest.

          Oh wait – did you mean Grant Achatz? Yes, he does molecular gastronomy, but like the best of anything, even if you are a little uncertain, it is worth trying at least once.

          • Adgirl says:

            I did mean Grant. The cancer guy. I’m a meat & potatoes girl so it would be a complete waste of a $100 entree. Even if were a Grant Achatz magically reconstituted meat and potatoes

    • kmuellfa says:

      The Shed Aquarium is amazing, and you could have lunch or dinner in Millenium Park.

      You could also check out Second City and try to get tickets. Most of the SNL cast over the years got their start there. As for restaurants, check out this website:
      It’s a show that reviews Chicago restaurants, and I think you can search by price, cuisine, etc. The reviews are done by locals, and it is hosted by one of the only female Grand Sommeliers.

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        There are too many great things to do in Chicago in one trip…enough to last a few birthday surprises anyway….I think I’m due another trip soon

      • aquamarinecandy-083 says:

        thanks so much everyone for your suggestions! how the heck am I going to cram everything into 4-5 days?? lol

        • kmuellfa says:

          Also, if the weather is good (you said you are planning on a spring trip?) you should plan to rent bicycles and ride up and down the lakeshore (you can rent them at the beach). It’s one of the city’s treasures.

  29. NMhousewife says:

    As I mentioned last night on the last blog while watching the show, I respectfully disagree about Nene. I think she is not a nice person. Yes, she does say funny things, but to people that are her true friends and have never done or said anything bad about her, she does not seem very loyal. I would hate to have a friend like her. Bethenny snarks, but even with with Jill (while friends), she was mostly making funny comments that I didn’t feel were hurtful to Jill. The lady’s that seem to be a good bet to be friends with would be Bethenny, Gina, Cynthia, Kandi, Laurie, and of course Alex. The rest act nice to each other and then say vile things about each other soon after.

    I tried to like Nene (for the first time) this season, but Cynthia deserves a better friend than her. I never took the friend contract as serious as everyone else. It could have been a cute little moment between true friends, and Nene turned it into something weird and awkward.

    After listening to Apollo on WWHL, I don’t care for him as much as before. Not that I had a huge crush on him, but he seemed a nice enough fellow who seemed harmless, but he seems to have no problem embellishing/confusing things they were meant to clear up last night. He also is not a very good speaker (communicator). I had some laughs over the show though I will admit, but not enough to change my opinion that it is a waste of the WWHL show to even have any real housewives on because they continue to take themselves too serious, although a lot of them say they are “acting” to give the show some drama.

    I watched Bravo’s clips with Amy Sedaris and Tom Colicchio(?) and that was sooo funny! I wish I had seen the whole show!

    • Adgirl says:

      I agree a bit about NeNe. I don’t hate her like JZ or Camille, but NeNe did the same thing I find unforgivable about all of them. She tried to undermine Kim and Kandi financially with the Tardy song. I don’t think NeNe’s intentions were to rob them of income, she was jealous and wanted to be included.

      Camille “firing” Mauricio, Jill and her secret Amazon comments on Bethenny & Alex’s books are in the same category. Jill also tried to get Alex thrown off the show didn’t she? Nasty things to do.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I have never liked NeNe – too loud and has a hard time listening. She is the queen of the talking head one liners.

  30. California35 says:

    Oh good, I will have plenty to read on my lunch break.

    Hi everyone, I hope you all have a nice Monday and great week!

  31. Earring Girl says:

    I guess Sheree was buying the furniture that she liked for her daughter – will she be moving in with them soon? JMHO but Sheree needs to set up a date with Susie Ormond and get her finances in ORDER!


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Her daughter didn’t seem all that excited with her mom’s “apartment”….their tastes are definately not the same. And what is with the “it’s in her DNA” to love this and that? This is the same poor girl who was introduced as “a family friend” the first season – the mother/daughter bonding stuff seems awkward. But hey, free furniture is still free furniture and the housewarming surprise was a nice touch.

    • Buffywood says:

      Shall we keep score?
      Jugs for Jesus and Jim
      Lynn Curtain and Hubby
      Teresa (aka bitch) and Joe

      Who else will be out on their asses because they can’t pay their rent/mortgage?

      I don’t think I can put Michaele and Tariq on the list because as far as I know they don’t even have a house.

      • Earring Girl says:

        I thought the whole apartment furniture/house warming/talk on the balcony and hugs were strange – Sheree invited her friends that had know the daughter since she was a baby????
        I guess anything to say “P.A.R.T.Y” – LOL 🙂

      • justanothermary says:

        Lisa Wu Hartwell?
        The other one that was so boring she was let go after one season lost her house too.
        NeNe Leakes got kicked out of a rental

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          Lisa was on 2 seasons and she wasnt let go
          it was her decision and she has been on this season at least 3 times
          if Bravo wanted to get rid of her why have her on at all
          sorry you found her boring i never did she is a beautiful person who went thru a lot in 2 years
          Love her

          • justanothermary says:

            No – I liked Lisa – but there was another one – DeShawn (?) who was boring and let go. She has since lost her home and gotten divorced.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Is she divorced yet? I know her husband cheated on her and got the other woman pregnant.

              The other woman wasn’t particularly attractive either which makes me wonder what these housewifes are like really like that their (ex) husbands seek out new women who don’t seem as high maintenance.

      • justanothermary says:

        Tamara Barney
        Slade Slimey
        Did Jeena lose any property or just refinance?

        • Adgirl says:


        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Jenna lost her two rental prosperity’s to either short sale or foreclosure. She was able to refinance her home she lives in- but I think she is barely holding on to it. Last I heard she was trying to rent it out for private functions.

      • Had Enough! says:

        Actually…they do. And a rather nice one, too, even if it is in the middle of nowhere (I know the area well; it is about 75 miles from DC and although their development is nice and there are a number of nice homes in the area, most of it is down-trodden, shabby, rural Virginia, replete with rundown trailers and Dollar Stores. I checked the property tax records and the house on Scenic Overlook Drive in Linden was still in their names as of a few weeks ago. I sent the info to Lynn. I’ll see if I can find it again.

        • Had Enough! says:

          OK, so checking the Warren County VA property tax records, the house at 440 Scenic Overlook Drive in Linden is still in the Salahis’ name and they are current on their property taxes. I remember being pissed off when Stacey said she couldn’t find any property in their name becausew I knew they’d owned this house and all I could think is that she is a lousy realtor if she couldn’t find a public record online and I could.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I thought I saw that house was up for sale. I am guessing that even if she is paying the rent, her stay was always going to be temporary.

  32. LynnnSoCal says:

    This is the article with copy of Bravo contract. SAG and WGA are exempt from compensation because of the claim it’s a ‘reality” show. They are all scripted to one degree or another and writers should be paid. Please note: that is MY OPINION about them being paid. Enjoy

  33. lillybee says:

    Off topic, I watch RHONY season 2 today, and I noticed that Jill never liked Ramona and her husband. She was really showing her true colors. Jill is was never all about you.

    • Earring Girl says:

      Did you see season 1 – Jill walks out of fashion show because she is seated on the second row behind Ramona and Jill throws a hissy fit because Ramona had a cooking party and did not invite her? I did not like Jill at the end season 1 and none of my friends could understand why – in fact most of them forgot those scenes.

      • Had Enough! says:

        That’s exactly the kind of thing my friend said when I told her I liked JZ in season 1. She did a run-down of all the JZ BS, and sure enough, she was right. I didn’t like JZ season 1. I just didn’t know it.

  34. justanothermary says:

    I got published again! This Associated Content thingy is kinda fun!


    I even learned how to post the link. One day I’ll actually join the 21st century!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I enjoyed it. It’s nice to hear other commentaries from the IHJZ family that aren’t HW related.

    • kbinldo says:

      If this is your 3rd one, then from now on, all you have to do is select “Display only” & voila! Pubished! 😀 Hey, I even got some “Featured Contributor” stuff today! I didn’t even know I’d moved up the ladder a bit! 😀 And now, off to read your stuff 🙂

  35. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    They are bashing Our Bethenny on another site again~I just read where Bethenny doesn’t even want to watch nyc wives never mind be on it~she said her stomach cramps just thinking about having to be with those women. I don’t think they should make her do the show if she doesn’t want to. Especially since she has her own now & a baby & a wonderful hubby. A couple of guest appearances should be enough with all she has brought to bravo.
    Anyways~just hurts to see someone pressured to do anything they don’t feel comfortable doing.

    • DJ Fruit Loops says:

      she has the second season of her own show to do and some of the housewives that she does like will appear on that im guessing Jill will never get an invite but Ramona & Alex sure will

    • HD says:

      No offense…but how can they “make” her do the show if she does not want to do it? If you do not want to do something…you don’t do it. I have learned in life people do what they WANT to do. My dad always asks me one thing, “what part did you play?”

      • Adgirl says:

        Maybe she is still under contract to RH?

        • HD says:

          I am curious about that. I would have to be under a serious, unbreakable contract if I was so upset about doing the NY show. Outside of a contract, well that makes me wonder why even do it?

          Bethanny has garnered enough fans, press and revenue for Bravo that she can call the shots on what she agrees or disagrees to do. To me, she has so much clout on Bravo she can determine the conditions of her contract.

          • HD says:

            Also…I am thinking…don’t they renew these contracts after each season? If so, the last season was crap for her, why renew?

            • Adgirl says:

              Maybe she had to make consessions to get her own show? Who knows. If she agreed to do the shows then she should shut up and do them.

            • LynnnSoCal says:

              Coincidentally, I have the site for the Bravo contract posted unthread. I’m pretty sure they are locked in for two years after they’re no longer on the show. Bravo gets a cut of anything they do outside of the show also. Bethanny doesn’t have much room. It’s why Danielle Staub had her checks garnished. She did other events without Bravo approval. FWIW!

            • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

              reality tea OMIB ~ I should have said the bashing came in the form of comments about her after I read that she was very uncomfortable being around these women again.

        • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

          I thought it was part of her contract that she has to make guest appearances for NYC wives~
          I read it on reality tea~the bashing.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        It was on reality tea OMIB~I just read it before posting here.
        I think working with Jill & Kelly would would be horrific for me as well after what happened last season. I don’t know how to post links yet either sorry~just tell you where I read them.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Hi BaaBee Loves Kitties!

      Do you have a link where Bethanny says that? Seems a little odd to me.

      • Earring Girl says:

        There are several articles about it here’s one – it seems they are looking at what has been filmed already on RHNYC and they are not satisfied. One article was posted on here – I don’t remember which IHJZ blog.


        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          Hi there @EarringGirl-
          I’ve seen those stories but have not seen anything about what BaabeeLovesKitties is saying: “I just read where Bethenny doesn’t even want to watch nyc wives never mind be on it~she said her stomach cramps just thinking about having to be with those women.”

          I’d love to see a link to that quote. B is always so careful not to bite the hand that feds her, very political in her own way, so that surprised me.

      • LynnnSoCal says:

        I think it was on Reality Tea today

    • error 404 says:

      Sorry, but we are talking about Bethenny Frankel, right? The same Bethenny that willingly and repeatedly takes on like 100 projects all at once, but still complains about being tired or stressed? The woman who brought her book along with her to her wedding, and then burned it after her honeymoon so she could start over from scratch? That Bethenny?

      Continuously biting off more than she can chew is her MO, and constantly complaining her just the way she is, a way to let off steam. I wouldn’t think too much of it, like I said, it’s just who she is.

      • TLM says:

        I am not feeling sorry for Bethenny either. Her career is booming. She is always taking on too much and always complaining about it. Same stuff, different day. I think at this point she needs to pull back on the complaining or risk turning people off. Everyone knows it’s her choice.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      Just wanted to say I never said “slaughtered” & should have said the comments about her not wanting to be on NYC wives anymore were not very nice.

  36. quincyil says:

    So the plan….

    I am recording “Skating with Bethenny” and “Tabitha Salon Takeover” tonight. I actually know nothing about skating or hair salons in real life. Oh, I’ve skated and had my hair cut in a salon, but that doesn’t make you an expert. I am going to read the real time discussion from the board about the skating competition after I write the notes on Bethenny and her partner. I don’t know enough about skating competitions to know if Bethenny is getting rooked so I’m going to trust the board for input in the blog. I think I understand the dashboard now.

  37. sydney says:


    As expected, at least by moi, Taylor’s hubby is also a scheister…..a convicted felon for SEC and Bankruptcy fraud. When will these people learn to keep themselves out of the spotlight?

    • quincyil says:

      I sent that link to Lynn with your name . and time posted.. Thank you for posting.

    • quincyil says:

      Why does this make me so sad. I liked his smile when he was taking care of his little girl. Why did Taylor have to put her family on national TV? I bet he will react badly to all of her interviews and this information going public and their marriage could be affected.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        He had to have seen this coming out in the wash- and if he didn’t then he is an idiot. For me the silver lining is that perhaps some poor old woman won’t invest her nest egg with this crook because of the publicity.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Despite the fact that it was a felony charge, whatever he did must have been minor. That statute carries penalties of up to $100,000 and/or jail time of 5 years. He got five years probation and 150 hrs community service.

    • Had Enough! says:

      What was the outcome of the cases alleging securities fraud? I don’t pass judgment until I learn the outcome. Anyone can press charges; doesn’t mean that the individual is actually guilty.

      • Adgirl says:

        I know it’s easy to accuse people of nearly anything. My family was harrassed legally by someone over a business matter. You won’t believe the lies some people will tell … so I ma willing to cut Russell slack over the allegations since he “settled” for one lower charge.
        But he is slimey in that he was a felon so he shouldn’t be working in financal capacity he was.
        What was the felony? Theft? DUI? Wife beating??

    • Adgirl says:

      HEY. Mohamed Hadid is also named in the same criminal complaint! So now we know how Taylor and Russell knew him.

  38. quincyil says:

    Kat, Kat, Kat…. input…

  39. kmuellfa says:

    In case anyone is interested, here is a listing of LPN programs in CT. UConn is not one of them.


  40. coocoopuffs78 says:

    “I doubt it would be that tough to find a buff ex-con with the IQ of a gnat to marry a wealthy attorney from Atlanta. “…………….THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU LYNN!!!!!! IT’S LIKE YOU READ MY MIND!!!!!!

    • TLM says:

      I’m watching the Kyle & Mauricio bike ride and thinking how it’s yet another reason Camille must hate Kyle. Camille likes to think she’s the great athlete who plays tennis (even though she seemed very winded over not much activity) runs on the beach, swims and paddleboards. So I’m sure she was none too happy to see Kyle completing a 69-mile bike ride for charity. And Kyle has also given birth to 4 kids. And Kyle did the ride with her husband, when Camille could barely get Kelsey to even allow her into his dressing room.

      Do we really need to have psychics or psychologists figure out what’s going on here? It seems as obvious as could be.

  41. Had Enough! says:

    Sorry to bounce to BH, but I thought this remark by Adrienne (on her blog) was so on-target:

    What is it with grown men and pouting when they are sick or injured?

    That’s my husband to a T! A little cold and he’s got the worst cold anyone in the world has ever had. A sore throat and he’s in agonizing pain.

    Me? I find getting sick annoying, I know enough to know that most things don’t need a doctor and the doc can’t do anything anyway (besides overprescribe meds), and I just keep going. I do stay away from other people so I won’t expose them to my crud. And I hate being fussed over. Well, maybe a foot rub, but I ALWAYS want foot rubs!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I actually found Adrianne to be a little intensive to her Paul’s needs. According to her blog, it required surgery to be repaired which isn’t something I would take so lightly. I think she could have managed a kiss on the cheek and bringing him an ice pack.

      I think Adrianne is mean to Paul. I don’t think she respects him or sees him as the provider. It kind of reminds me of the relationship Dr.90210 has with his wife and something that he said about it. He said all his friends warned him not to marry her because her family was rich- and that a rich girl doesn’t appreciate her husband because their is nothing they can do for them that their daddy’s can’t do- and they don’t let you forget it.

      • error 404 says:

        Adrienne reminds me a lot of the Talia Shire character from the Godfather series.

        I also loved how Paul had to have medical assistance, but then he had to search his wife out and all but beg for sympathy. Um… wouldn’t most of us approach an injured spouse first, not go make sandwiches?

      • TLM says:

        The only time I saw Adrienne genuinely smile and laugh is when she saw Paul injured. I really think she can’t stand him. As soon as he asked for a neck rub, the scowl was back on her face. I don’t think it has anything to do with her being wealthier. I just think she doesn’t like or respect him as a person. But he’s a little passive-aggressive also. It seems like a profoundly unhealthy relationship that lacks real love.

    • error 404 says:

      I find that sometimes couples can level things out, but other times some couples go to their opposite extremes…. a spend thrift will spend more because the tight wad is always tightening the belt more, a distant person will pull away causing the clingy one to get even more clingy causing the distant one to pull away even more, etc… Luckily for me my spouse is attentive, but who knows, if I had a spouse as dismissive as Adrienne, I might become as whinny as Paul.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        It seems like she treats her marriage to Paul with the same sort of professional distance someone would have in a business relationship- there might be a casual glass of wine and some small talk but there is no sense of warm or feeling- just expectations to meet the desired performance.

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        I think Adrienne and Paul are acting for the cameras, plain and simple. He always that little twinkle in his eye that kinda says…yep we’re fooling everyone IMHO

        • twoile says:

          @cdnfillie58 I agree with yor assessment…..A is the only girl w 3 bros (I think 3) so has traveled the road w/o a lot of self involved whinning as demo’d via her self defense expertise etc. I wonder what Paul’s family of origin looks like, he reminds me of an only child etc.

  42. Had Enough! says:

    Here – start hating Camille in advance:


    You will probably feel a HUGE amount of hate so you are going to need as much time as you can get.

    • Kat says:

      Camille is a cold hearted troll-doll.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It is hard to hate Camielle – she is so full of hate that she is easier to dismiss than she is to hate. Now that she is messing with Kyle’s family’s livelihood – she is in the same league with Jill. IMO – Kelsey did not know about the text regarding realtor services. Camielle is a greasy, plastic, delusional piece of crap and sadly that is all she will ever be. Knowing she is getting her’s now in real life sort of blunts the viciousness currently on screen. So while she may get money – she still doesn’t have a loving husband, close friends or a reputation that will keep her in the BH elite.

    • lillybee says:

      What a nasty excuse for a woman.

    • kmuellfa says:

      I wonder if her blog on Bravo is going to reappear (why it disappeared in the first place is a whole other mystery). I read a lot of the comments on it and they were all negative.

    • TLM says:

      For everyone keeping track of the Kelsey-meter, Camille managed to work in Kelsey’s name yet again at her dinner from hell (“I met Kelsey after I did Playboy”) and at the upcoming costume party (“Kelsey and I love to dress up” — even though he wasn’t there and MAURICIO WAS THERE WITH KYLE!!! Take that, Botox Face!). What are we up to now on the Kelsey-meter? About 3,000 mentions from Camille?

      I really think Camille believes her own BS. Otherwise, how could she have filmed all this and not realize what an enormous ass she was making of herself at the time?

      “I’m not intimidated by Kyle…her bark is worse than her bite.” Hey lunatic, no one ever barked at you, least of all Kyle. You went after her, and you expect people to buy your transparent little act? Keep doing your little giggles and head-bobs, Botox Face. You better hope that no one deciding on your divorce settlement watches this show, because if they do, you’ll be owing KELSEY money. I think the man deserves effing combat pay.

      • Earring Girl says:

        Has anyone noticed Camille’s skin – it’s all blotchy and weird looking (IMO worst than Kelly) on her arms and chest. Too much sun?

        Bethenny is on SWTS.

      • Adgirl says:

        don’t you wish there really was a meter on the screen clocking every time she mentioned his name?

    • Ruby Newbie says:

      Camille is soooooo obsessed with Kyle at this point I find it disturbing. To attempt to hurt her husband’s livelihood because she is so painfully jealous is just nuts.

      It makes me mad because I’ve been there. Now, I don’t think I’m all that by any stretch of the imagination. But I had a co-worker who fixated on me and it was all negative. She pulled me aside one day and told me my co-workers thought I was “mean”. Mind you, I’d been working with the same people for nearly six years. We’d been through everything from births to deaths with each other and hung out with each other away from work. I had no idea why she’d come at me with such bs. She even tried to get me fired. This also happened with two other co-workers of mine. She hated all three of us although she pretended she didn’t. She was a troublemaker, a liar and just all around weird. I was instantly uncomfortable around her. She was the major reason I accepted another job. I just didn’t wanna play her high school mean girl games. She was eventually “asked to resign”.

      So yeah…Camille REALLY gets my goat! Work on whatever is making you so miserable and stop fixating on Kyle!

    • California35 says:

      Poor Kyle, she does seem affected by this. Camile is just so irritating…like others have said, even if Kyle said the things Camille says she did, come on….let it rest. There is no reason to keep bringing it up and further more hurt her and her family. I hope Kelsey didn’t even know about all of this. Who knows how he really is, but I always thought he had class and maners. Camille doesn’t have either one. You were right HD!

      • error 404 says:

        I’m still trying to figure out why “You need to get a hobby” was the most awful thing ever said by one person to another. LOL

        Some people are so full of themselves, that anyone else even suggesting that they are anything less than a god amongst us mere mortals, is the most horrible insult ever.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I think another poster touched on it nicely in another blog.

          In Camille’s world- those probably are the worst things she has ever heard- at least until Kelsey said “I am leaving you’. She guards herself against insults and injury by surrounding herself with people who are in servitude to her.

          She is not emotionally equipped enough to handle the slightest bit of criticism and doesn’t fight fair as a result.

          She reminds me a lot of JZ, who takes shots at everyone but then cries ‘wolf’ if anyone says anything in return.

        • TLM says:

          Unfortunately the second half of that quote always gets lost in the retelling of it. It was, “You need to get a hobby other than picking fights with people.” Which was even less of a nasty statement. It was actually advice stated in a humorous way.

          It became clear after the reunion that the “you didn’t visit Bobby” thing was just a red herring. The fight was really about Bethenny getting her own show and Jill being pissed that she wasn’t along for the ride, and didn’t get her own show. They couldn’t put that on Housewives since Bravo isn’t ever discussed on the show, so they made it all about Bobby. And that’s why it made no sense to anyone.

          Frankly I never understood why Bethenny still wanted to be friends with her after Jill told people not to film with her or help her in any way.

      • vilzvet says:

        The on-air apology last week during WWHL makes it abundantly clear that in the what, SIX months since the dinner party, Camille and Kyle have had ZERO contact! Because of course the women would have spoken many times since then since they are in the same circle. It was pretty obvious this was the first time they have talked to each other! Amazing.

        • California35 says:

          I think that either way – she called to show the viewers. I am glad Kyle just brush it out and didn’t question it or argue.

    • BessiB says:

      So, does anyone remember what was on the Camille blog that was taken down?

  43. California35 says:

    Hi everyone, I haven’t read all of the posts so little time… I hope I catch up later (sorry I keep saying that)…but I wanted to add something I heard regarding Phaedra. Supposedly she was on the Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston’s show. I never watched it, I wasn’t into reality TV yet. What I heard (From Kathy Griffin on her standup) was that she was on an episode and she didn’t seem smart at all. Bobby still went to jail. She also made fun of the fact that Phaedra keeps bragging that she was Bobby Brown’s lawyer, but he kept going to jail…so what good was she? 😛

    • Ruby Newbie says:

      She’s one of those hustler type lawyers. She’s certainly not an esteemed jurist who elevates the practice of law. A future Supreme Court justice she ain’t! LOL

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      No- I thought she was here in Boston representing him in a child support case with a local woman that had his baby “without benefit of clergy”.

      She was on the front page of the Herald with Bobby Brown walking out of court and I remember thinking she looked very pulled together and that she was far prettier than the girl suing Bobby Brown. Funny what you remember…

  44. vilzvet says:

    Hey, no one’s mentioned Hating Allison today. Let’s not forget Camille actually thanked her in her now-removed blog for being such a “great friend”. I really don’t know why the blog was removed, maybe Camille herself read all the VERY negative responses and made the demand? By the way, Kyle’s blog was spot-on, describing her shock at watching the episode with loved ones and hearing the Mauricio slander talk.

    • California35 says:

      I haven’t been to Bravo at all, probably since NYHW and I became a fan of this blog. I used to go read some of HW’s blogs, never the coments. I am curious about it again because of the BHHW.

      Regarding Camille —
      No matter how much she thinks she is right and that her “friends” agree with her….we and the rest of the HWives DON’T! I want to read what her castmates think of that night and the whole situation. I hope she is not back on season 2. Not only is she mean and delosional etc etc etc, but she is not when not attacking Kyle she is not entertaining….

    • California35 says:

      Oh – By the way — I hate Allison 😛

    • Adgirl says:

      there is a link to the deleted blog below.

    • BessiB says:

      Well, look what happened when Danielle said crap that was not true – her ass was dragged before a Court.

  45. Earring Girl says:

    Why is Johnny Weener being so nice to Bethenny tonight??????? I hope because of my email to ABC.com. I did receive a response back from them acknowledging it.

    • kbinldo says:

      Yours probably wasn’t the only one. I’m glad that enough people complained & made such a stink about it that ABC listened.

    • California35 says:

      Oh reaaalllly? I might watch the whole episode tonight now….I have been watching only her part.

  46. AZ Girl says:

    Well does someone know where Camille’s blog disappeared to? How long was it up before taken down? I never got a chance to read it. Good ole Bravo.

  47. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston, BaaBee was refering to RealityTea. Not quite the slaughter she’s making it out to be but the comment by Bethenny is quoted.

    “Bethenny, who is now gearing up for the second season of her Bravo spin off show, however doesn’t want to return for more appearances as she is ready to phase the NYC Housewives completely out of her life. Bethenny reportedly feels “physically sick” just thinking about having to return to the show, something she feels is a “toxic environment.”

    A friend of Bethenny tells Popeater, “In her heart she wishes she could just move on.” The friend adds, “To tell the truth, she doesn’t even want to watch the new season let alone be forced to be part of it.” Ouch”

    And that is all 😉

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I see.
      So it’s a friend “quoting” Bethenny.
      thank you for clearing up the confusion

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        I just went over there, this comment was AWESOME:

        “…These shows dont have stars. They are all so replaceable. Except for Giggy the sex monster” Nicks

        love this guy

  48. HD says:

    I can’t ice skate to save my life so this is just my non-ice skating opinion…Bethanny did fine tonight. She did a good job to be honest. Much better than her other nights. I was really happy to see her skate tonight. The judges seemed fair and open to her skating tonight. Overall, pretty good. She scored well. Good job, B!

  49. Earring Girl says:

    @OMB – I posted an article upthread about Bethenny returning – here is another one with more details from Reality Tea.


    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      thanks babe- You’re the BEST- no matter what the trollies say. jk! jk!

      • Earring Girl says:

        No problem – don’t care what the trollies say – I have been following this blog since the hubs when the comments were sometimes 17 all day long! I just don’t need to repeat what everyone is saying. LOL!

    • error 404 says:

      You reap what you sow. She’s your biggest star to date, yet you sat by idly while Kiki attacked her. Hmm… now Kiki isn’t funny unless B is there for her to abuse? Make them pay thru the nose B, make them pay big and hard.

  50. TLM says:

    Seriously, even if Johnny Moseley and his partner fall on the ice and vomit, they’ll still beat Bethenny and Ethan. That’s why the judges were being nice.

  51. OneMoreInBoston says:

    A whole boatload of negative articles about Allison the Psycho Psychic. (did someone else already post this? if so sorry!)


    • error 404 says:

      I’m not sure that I agree with her about the reward part. Yes, no one was more shocked than I that Kiki was allowed to keep her job. That being said, I find it hard to believe that her rep is anything other than completely destroyed. Is she getting some kind of residual jobs that I don’t know of. All I ever see is a sad lonely woman desperately sending tweets out into the void.

  52. historykc says:

    Holly balls! Bethenny’s in the finals for SWTS?!

  53. Earring Girl says:

    Bethenny is in the finals – Johnny is out – Wow! I guess my 40 votes helped!

  54. American Idiot says:

    I guess this will teach Johnny Weir not to mess with Bethenny fans.

    • historykc says:

      seriously, i almost have to wonder if that was premediated in order to create a stir for the show. i know i wouldn’t be watching if she wasn’t on.

  55. Earring Girl says:

    VOTE FOR BETHENNY – Lets drag her over the finish line!!!!!

    1-855-752-8305 – Five votes – One hour to vote!

  56. Earring Girl says:

    CORRECT NUMBER – 1-855-752-8306 sorry 😦

  57. TLM says:

    Johnny Mosely’s getting kicked off the show tonight was just a joke. The whole audience was stunned. I think even Bethenny can’t believe she’s still there. She doesn’t belong there. Enough already. Thank God it’ll be over tomorrow apparently, instead of dragging this show out another week.

    Let’s be honest. If Brandon Smith had not been sick as a dog and dropped out last week, Bethenny would have been gone already. She is not in the same league as Rebecca Budig, or Brandon’s partner, or Johnny’s partner. Not even close.

    This was the first time I was actually pissed at Bethenny. The whole crying fit was weird enough, but please — AGAIN with “I left my husband and baby”? Jesus, make something else up. Say it’s been a long journey. A long emotional journey even. But stop playing the husband and baby card. Other people have left their families too, and you don’t see any of them saying that over and over. I actually groaned when she said that. I didn’t like that she actually cheered herself during her lift. Who does that in competition???

    I think without a doubt, Bethenny’s music and choreography have been the worst each week. But here’s what I really don’t get. Why are her costumes always the cheapest and tackiest? It’s as if Vera Wang designed all the other costumes, and hers was done by Tonya Harding’s mom, armed with a Bedazzler. I don’t know how much input they have on those things, but I almost wonder if the costumer had a vendetta for her.

    Who thinks the word “Underdog” was more than a coincidence of a word for Bethenny? Not the fighter, not the determined… the underdog. Shades of Real Housewives? Come on.

    It was fair to keep Bethenny until she got into the top three. Those three couples were clearly better than she and Ethan are. Brandon’s dropping out was just a gift. But this? I know it’s just a dumb tv show, but the ranking made sense until now. I guess Bethenny was right in saying, “You guys will vote us through.” I knew the fans’ votes counted for something, but they shouldn’t count to get rid of competitors who clearly were better than she is. I thought it was Skating With the Stars, and tonight the Skating portion of the show just melted away before our eyes.

    • I don't have my notes says:

      Thank you for posting this. You echo my thoughts exactly. I’m so glad to know someone else feels as stunned as I do. If I knew nothing of Bethenny except what I’ve seen on this show, I would not be amused or impressed with her. Loved your comment about the Bedazzler decorating her costume. Tonight’s was the worse, it looked like Wilma Flintstone’s outfit for turning tricks in Bedrock.

      I do think someone “got to” Johnny Weir and his comments were of the grown up variety, if not a bit condescending.

      • historykc says:

        Yeah, I actually feel bad for Johnny Mosley. However, I think J. Weir is to blame. I wasn’t going to vote for her last week and then he said “I don’t care to see you skate anymore” and she got 5 votes from me. I didn’t think there was anyway she’d actually get through.. but I guess we will see Rebecca win.

        • icantstandthetoxicity says:

          @historykc I agree with you, I think that Johnny Weir is to blame. I wasn’t going to vote anymore because I thought Bethenny’s time on the show was up but Johnny Weir’s comments annoyed me so much I ended up voting for Bethenny. I am shocked that she made it to the finals. Rebecca is the better skater but Bethenny could end up winning this.

      • HD says:

        I just wanted to pause and say I love your name, ‘I don’t have my notes”. Was that not one of the dumbest things Jill said? LOL!

        As for Bethanny, I’m shocked. That is how most of these competitions go. Bristol Palin vs. Brandi. Brandi deserved to stay. Bristol should have went home.

        Honestly, I do not know the Johnny guy. Sorry. So maybe, well obviously, Bethanny had more people calling in to vote for her. This is only the second time I voted. I figured if she made it this far I may as well vote her into the home stretch. She did skate well tonight. *kanye shrug*

    • JazzNightOut says:

      This is dumb because it is a competition, but I hoped Bethenny would volunteer to go home instead of Johnny. She’s done what she hoped to do now, so it is time for her to leave gracefully. I voted for her, but I was shocked; Johnny is the better skater, and both Johnny and Bethenny know it. Maybe she is staying for those who voted for her, but still……..

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Voted for her again tonight online and on phone because I am Team Bethenny but……. shocked and sad for Johnny. Hate to see myself as promoting a Bristol Palin type win, and I feel I may be. Ambivilence is a curse, lol 🙂

      • I don't have my notes says:

        Good points Jazzy

    • TLM says:

      I also had no idea until tonight that people are permitted to vote more than once each. It’s no longer a show about skating.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        Perhaps it never was; it seems to be about ABC having people watch and popularity. Bethenny is popular; I have voted for her week after week from 2 phone lines and 4 e-mail addys. And I don’t even like the show; think it is dumb. Oh well, taking it in stride and sticking by Bethenny ’til the end. Now, I am just glad that Jennifer Grey won DWTS; she might not have.

        • BessiB says:

          I don’t watch or care about competition show so I think it hysterically funny she is gone so far when the judges hated her so much.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I don’t watch the show, never voted and thus I don’t really care who wins or loses but this post and the ones that followed leave me kind of confused. I’m not pointing at anyone in particular, I don’t remember who said what, I am addressing just what I sensed the general consensus was.

      I remember the outrage over JW’s comments to Bethany last week and the frenzy and out rage that surrounded them that surrounded them. The response was to vote for Bethany- so I think it would have needed to be realized that would hurt the other competitors.

      So now people are upset that there reactions worked a little too well?

      • historykc says:

        i think the best word for the situation is shocked. i’m shocked that most B fans had the same reaction i did. i’m also shocked that an olympic athlete (mosley) has less fans than a soap star (rebecca). i think as others have pointed out above, that no one is really watching this show besides B fans and probably die-hard DWTS fans. i’m honestly wondering if weir’s comments were premediated the week before in order to create a controversy=higher ratings for the show. tv land is strange.

    • lillybee says:

      I am shocked, too. Beth really did improve but she was in no way better than Johnny Mosley. I guess that skiers do not have such a big fan base.

  58. OneMoreInBoston says:

    rewatching Atlanta-

    Kandi has a nice relationship with her producer guys- they both are very supportive.

    Whenever she cries over AJ- I always tear up a little bit.

    the cynic in me is wondering though.

    She is being very savvy about this song as everyone knows the back story-either she’s an artist that wears her heart on her sleeve, or…she’s exploiting his death.

    Which would really bum me out because she’s one of the few HW’s I like.

    • HD says:

      What makes you think she is exploiting his death? This is a Grammy award winning song writer who his written for the likes of Alicia Keys, TLC, Destiny’s Child, Pink, Mariah Carey, NSync, Usher, Boyz to Men, to name a few artists. I don’t think she needs to use the death of her ex-fiance to garner attention. Kandi is solid when it comes to writing music. Riding the coattails of anyone, especially her dead fiance, does not seem like her character or quite honestly even needed.

    • Christine says:

      I didn’t view Kandi’s song as exploiting A.J.’s death. Eric Clapton wrote “Tears in Heaven” as a tribute to his son after his death. I think it is a matter of expressing a personal experience though one’s specific talent. Authors often write books about their personal tragedies and I don’t see that as exploitation. Sometimes they are helpful and comforting for others who have had similar life challenges. JMHO.

  59. Dani says:

    Watching Skating With The Stars, Bethenny was fantastic. I am holding my breath to see what score the judges give her.

  60. JazzNightOut says:

    Can’t believe SWTS; glad but shocked!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bears vs Vikings on ABC in Chicago – thanks for the update on SWTS.
      Voted every phone and computer in the house. Glad to hear someone made Weir back off – he was so odious and unprofessional. Maybe ABC is listening to their viewers…..IMO Bethenny only did this show for the national exposure and hopefully it will translate into something in the future that viewers will want to see!

  61. TLM says:

    Holy bad design, Batman… I just saw Sheree’s redo of her daughter’s apartment. Hideous. Giant red and white stripes in the living room? I would feel like I was living in the grocery section of a Target store.

  62. Dani says:

    Have the votes already been counted, can’t I vote?

    • Earring Girl says:

      You have an hour – it’s over at 10pm

      • Dani says:

        Thank you Earring Girl, I keep forgetting that it is on. Tonight I was reading this blog and saw that it was going to be on so I am watching it. I will make sure that I vote 5 times. Bethenny has worked very hard and I want to support her.

  63. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston, I think its some combination of all of the above. Last year she claimed “Fly Above” was inspired by Kim being hated on. I was like, seriously? Kim is a “Trashbox Hookah” not a misunderstood innocent caught up in a love triangle. Kandi used that lame excuse/story as a way to get the song woven into her storyline and promote her album that flopped.
    People still ask her about A.J., so I think this was her way of honoring his memory and keeping the storyline about working on another album going. JMO 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sometimes I think that Kandi should stay with writing songs for others and concentrating on growing her new company. Her voice is alright but I don’t feel her stage presence/performing to be exciting. Her Bravo storyline seems to be all over the place – internet sextalk show, helping Kim and now Lawrence and a whole lot of bitching about it. While I like her, I think she is lost this season.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        I think she’s mourning, and is not giving herself enough time for her grief.
        She is all over the place with no focus.

      • error 404 says:

        I didn’t really watch S1&S2 so I’m not sure how Kandi usually is, but I don’t see how she’s all over the place. She’s actually the only housewife with a career: singer/song writer, and her story line is that she has a new album and also wrote songs for the others singers on the show. She’s an entertainer, and she’s on an entertainment show.

        Cynthia has a modeling career, but moving to Atlanta just to be with Peter was putting her career in 2nd place.

        Phaedra is suppose to be an entertainment lawyer, although we never see her act in that capacity on the show. We see her try and be some sort of agent, and we see her try and defend petty criminals, and somehow this all has something to do with being a serial reality “actor”… I’m lost.

        Kim, Nene and Sheree are so all over the place I can’t even try to understand it all…

        Nene is married, but considering divorce and has suddenly decided to try broadcasting? I’m lost.

        Sheree is an actress! She also hasn’t given up on being a fashion designer. She also apparently has a daughter that was just a friend in S1. I’m lost.

        Kim is a lesbian. No, Kim is engaged to some one else’s husband. No, Kim is dating a ball player. Kim is a nurse, No, Kim is a singer. No, Kim is writing a book. No, Kim owns a wig business. I’m lost.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          LOL- well, when you consider the company that Kandi is in, you’re right, she’s a superstar!

          I thought she was more focused in the first seasons, she seems like she’s struggling a little. And I really wish she hadn’t gotten involved with producing Kim, it seems like so much stress for her.

          • Adgirl says:

            The Real Houseiwves are all verrrry talented and multitasking.
            Kelly is a model-author-journalist-editor-jewelry designer-mother-equestrian-humanitarian-PETA supporter-fur wearing -gummi bear lover. Hiiiii!

  64. Toront0 says:

    Has anyone voted from Canada? I repeatedly get a busy signal.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      So you are actually from Toronto? I think I asked you about it before in another blog but lost track of the convo so I didn’t see if you replied.

      I grew up there. What area of Toronto are you from?
      I grew up in North York, then when I was out on my own I lived in the Annex, then to Parkdale once it was gentrified with the all the art galleries and the re-opening of the Drake.

  65. Adgirl says:

    Did anyone notice on Russell’s criminal complaint that Mohamed Hadid of the enormo-mansion (Lisa’s party, Kim’s blind date) was also named as a defendant?

    • Earring Girl says:

      Remember Lisa saying she had a friend for Kim but he was in jail? Lisa is so sarcastic sometimes I am not sure when she is being real.

      I still can’t get over Kim getting upset about Lisa/Martin/thank you phone call. Instead she perfers having that total stranger (Single Gary) come to her house because she can find men in the grocery store. Then Kim said she didn’t need anyone to find her a man but she asked all of them to find her someone in the limo coming back from New York. I can understand Kyle’s frustration with Kim – she frustrates me on the tv.

  66. Earring Girl says:

    If this has been posted – just ignore:


  67. Adgirl says:

    From Kim’s blog.
    Phaedra calling her out at the spa:
    “She says I’m two-faced and rude? If I were rude, I would have shut you up when you said your baby was “7lbs and 23oz.” Is your baby 7lbs 23oz or 8lbs 7oz? I know he was about 50 when you were “5 months.” A lawyer should have her facts straight.

    She proceeded to tell me I am two-faced because I had SO much to say about her baby. We ALL had a lot to say about her due date drama, because she was clearly not telling the truth. But she came for me, because she knows NeNe will attack her, Sheree will pull her hair, and Cynthia will give her a weird contract. I’ve been attacked by worse before, so I think I can handle you!”

    I didn’t catch that baby weight math problem. Pretty funny.

    • HD says:

      LOL! I caught that 23 oz when she said it. I thought how dumb can you be? 23 oz? Dumb! Of course she cleared it up on WWHL and said she meant 13 oz. I am not sure how you say 23 and mean 13 but of course Phaedra knows what she means. My daughter is almost 15 but if you asked me how much she weighed when she was born, over a decade later, I can tell you 6 lbs 6 oz. Oh well maybe its just me…

      • quincyil says:

        Not just you. 6lb 11 oz, 9 lb 5 oz, 10 lb 5 oz

        I know their length and apgar scores too. I was an observant mother.

      • Adgirl says:

        I wonder how Phaedra is in court? I’ll bet she doesn’t do much litigation, just the filing of paperwork and showing up at the various proceeding.
        Her husband also seems to have the anti-math affliction. On WWHL he said they are 4 yrs apart in age but they are really 7 yrs apart (according to absurdtosublime).
        Maybe he blocked our 3 years of his life?

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I don’t remember the exact weights of my kids….
        My first daughter was born after being in labor for over 24 hours- and at some point my epidural coming out. I was in so much pain I thought my uterus was reputing. I remember crying and shaking so bad with pain and fear begging God to make it stop. I remember wanting to kill the nurse to ask me to rate my pain on a scale from 1-10 while this was happening. I remember yelling her to turn the FN pitocin off. I remember getting another epidural and though I was not in pain, I was still feeling traumatized. I when it was time to push and I final had my daughter I was so exhausted that when I started to cry, the first tears were tears of relief followed those of meeting my daughter for the first time. By that time everything seemed surreal. I think she was about 7-11. I know she was 7 lbs, I vaguely remember the oz. especially since the discharge weight changed that.

        My second was again about 24 hours of labor and resulted in a c-section because of failure to progress. I was tired and she was taken shortly after to the NICU so again it was all a blur. But she was about 6-7. Again, the weight in lbs was clear, the oz is fuzzy.

        • Adgirl says:

          But surely you are clear it wasn’t 7lbs 23ozs. 🙂

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I think so but then again, I was raised in Canada where everything was metric. I do use lbs as a measurement for body mass but I stop a pounds- I think I am in too much denial to add oz’s to my weight 🙂

      • TLM says:

        Phaedra also thinks ladyfingers have barbarian creme in them. Enough said.

  68. Kat says:

    Quincy Quincy Quincy!
    Just checking.

  69. Adgirl says:

    I just love that Cynthia is marrying the older Peter and is getting married at a dinosaur museum.

  70. iceNfire says:

    SWTS is such a horrible show I’m pretty sure the only people watching it are Bethenny fans. The judges purposely scored her way below the others thinking there was no way she would get enough audience votes to go to final. ( 88 vs 116 ) LOL I love it!

  71. California35 says:

    On Bethenny — I didn’t like the way they were treating her, but I didnt think she was the best or that she would win. The reason I watched the show was because of Bethenny, the reason I didn’t want to watch it was because how she was treated by judges. I am glad she was on the top 3, and she was a lot better tonight, but I was shocked that she is now on the top 2. I love Bethenny and I’m happy for her, but she can’t win. Rebecca is very good and will win, and Bethenny will still look great being on 2nd place. She improved a lot and she accomplished yet another thing, so she will be fine 🙂

  72. California35 says:

    Mentors, my review is tomorrow. Changing the massage for tomorrow night turned out to be better, I will need it more than las Saturday 😦

    I didnt think I will get it before the Holidays because I was not allowed to take time off, AND I need to cover for someone for two weeks. In other words, if I would hear something negative on my review, I wouldn’t hear it until after the Holidays. Maybe that should give me some hope, because maybe I won’t hear something negative.

  73. iceNfire says:

    Earring Girl – I remember hubpages when the comments were sometimes 17 pages. I had to take notes on my way to the comment box and poor Lynn had to post multiple times to accommodate us!

  74. Christine says:

    For all of my fellow HW addicts and particularly those who also are owned by their horses, I was grooming my three yesterday as they had rolled in the mud after the rain this weekend. I was thinking about Camille’s dinner party and just started laughing which made the horses look at me as if I had overdosed on Xanax. In my little daydream I conjured up a guest list for Camille – Her BFF’s Allison and DeDe, NeNe, Jill, KellyKiKi, Michaele and Kim Z. Allison would have been trying to set herself on fire with her e-cig after trying to outsnark that bunch.Oh, what the heck, add Phaedra just for a little more Southern attitude. Even Camille wouldn’t have been able to maintain her little smug smile with all of that crazy group.
    Thank you got allowing me this little bit of fantasy.

  75. sydney says:



    ***Don’t have time to read all of the posts so plz excuse if this is a duplicate., but here we go again…..JIM BELLINO’S newest lawsuit. What a slimeball!

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