I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Jan 7, 2010

Lisa Lisa Lisa, it’s no fun to be in the middle between your husband and anybody in the world, let alone Cedric, who you clearly adore and enjoy his company. Last night’s episode revealed Cedric’s background and explains why he is living with Lisa and Ken Vanderpump.

It seemed a bit set up having Kyle insist on being told the story at a birthday dinner, in the middle of dinner as the cameras rolled. Kyle just had to know, Cedric promised to tell her someday and there you have it, dinner conversation.

Cedric’s story is like an afterschool special, his mother was a prostitute, got beat up by her husband and she lived with Cedric on the streets of Paris before abandoning him at a phone booth. Fifteen years ago, the Vanderpumps took him in and give him a place to live. There was some question as to whether or not this sensational story was true or not, for my purposes, if Lisa believes him, I believe him. If she ever questioned it, she certainly has the money to put a private investigator on it and so either she’s done that and confirmed it, or she hasn’t and is going on blind faith, either way it’s good enough for me.

The friction between Lisa and her husband isn’t going to go away until Cedric does, I’m a little confused as to why Cedric doesn’t feel the tension and straighten up a bit. He’s not always going to do what the Vanderpumps what him to do without being told, like a child, it seems as though he needs to be given some house rules and even some chores. Make him responsible for gassing up the cars and feeding the dogs, cutting the dead roses off of the bushes. Then, when he’s done with his chores, he can play with Lisa.

Camille decides it would be a good idea to invite a few of the girls and their families over for a Tennis Tournament. There is no explanation why she chose Kyle and Adrienne and left out Taylor, Kim and Lisa with their families but I think I can guess why she included Kyle. Camille is a cunning woman and she had sent that text message basically firing Kyle’s husband Mauricio as their realtor. Now Camille has the upper hand and the couple will now have to kiss her ass to get Marico his gig back. I didn’t see one olive branch, what I saw was Camille wanting attention and seeing just how far Kyle will go to bend over backwards to be kind to the scheming Camille.

One question for Bravo, why do we have to watch this woman making phone calls to invite people to her parties every time? Do they really need the filler nonsense because they don’t have enough footage of the Beverly Hills Housewives? Remember, Camille does 30% more than most housewives, there must be more interesting film to air, right?

Camille proved she doesn’t care who is watching, she’s going to plant a big wet one on her “friend” Nick, even while he’s wearing a weird wig and his wife Tricia is looking on. Kyle interviewed that if Camille did that to her husband, she wouldn’t have any lips left, but no worries, Camille didn’t kiss Mauricio on the lips but she did hug him at least three times.

Adrienne and Paul attended the tennis tournament at Camille’s and we learned that poor Paul had his nose broken by their 4-year old son for a second time, this time it was a head-butt to the nose. I think Paul needs to wear one of those helmets with a face guard around the house, they do say the home is where most accidents happen.

After tennis was a little pool time and as the kids had a blast swimming, Mauricio and Paul suited up to join them but Kyle and Adrienne chose to sit and watch. Camille was sure to put on her skimpiest bikini and join the men and kids in the pool. Once again Camille decides that Adrienne and Kyle must be jealous of her so they chose to sit out of the pool, “Female Jealousy” said Camille taunts Kyle threatening to throw her into the pool. Rather than allowing Camille to have the satisfaction, Kyle jumps into the pool fully clothed. Poor Adrienne ended up in the pool fully clothed as well but not by jumping in, she was pushed in by her husband.

Kyle and her husband Marico hosted a party at their home, they called it their annual White Party and it also celebrated Marico’s 40th birthday. With the guests all instructed to dress in white, and all of the housewives invited, any bloodshed would be easily evident. They should have invited Adrienne’s 4 year old son. This is my kind of party! The yard looked beautiful with tents, added lighting, an extensive bar and dance floor included a DJ and live bands. No offence to Taylor’s Roaring 20’s party, but this one looked like a whole lot more fun!

Kim showed up with her children and quickly was told that Martin, her blind date from a few weeks back would be attending the party. She seemed to really like Martin, in fact she said that they hit it off but that he never called her. I guess he’s just not that into you Kim. Sort of like the series struggled to find ways to get Kim some screen time, since there is nothing there to air, Martin struggled to find something interesting there, but found nothing.

Everyone looked really great, the ladies were all well put together and looked stunning. Kyle had on her green earrings that she wears all the time, they must mean something to her because I think I’ve seen those green earrings on her at least a dozen times.

Camille arrives apparently sick with bronchitis so she didn’t stay long but she was kind enough to bring a gift to not only the birthday boy, Mauricio but she brought a gift for Kyle, a book titled “How To Behave”. Really Camille? That has to be the rudest thing I’ve seen in a while, Camille said it was meant to be a joke, maybe she needs to look up the term “joke” because typically jokes are funny. I have to agree with Lisa, I definitely think that Camille should read the book first.

The rest of the evening was about Taylor and her husband Russell. Russell wasn’t engaging with the other party guests and didn’t crack a smile all night while Taylor was enjoying herself and laughing with friends. Russell complained that the party will most likely go on until 3am, while most people would agree that is a good thing, Russell just wanted to go home. I was glad that Taylor didn’t give in to him and leave but rather than staying with his wife, Russell chose to take the car and driver and leave Taylor behind. I have to wonder if Russell changed over the course of the marriage or if he had always been like this.

Taylor wants her husband to be more like Kyle’s husband, have fun and enjoy his time with his wife. If Russell had never been that way and she married him just the way he is, she’s going to be disappointed for the rest of her life. People just don’t change. I doubt that Russell was a party animal and danced all night when Taylor met him, he is who he is and Taylor will have to learn to live with that or leave him. Taylor keeps saying that her marriage is more of a business arrangement but we never see Taylor working, so how exactly does she contribute to his business? Regardless, this is her life and she has to stop looking at other people’s husbands hoping her husband will turn into someone he’s not.

Next week on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills we will catch a glimpse of Kelsey Grammer as Camille travels to New York to join him at the Tony Awards. The previews also show Camille explaining that Kelsey tells her he wants to end their marriage. It should be an interesting episode.

In other Housewives News:

After Bethenny’s appearance on Watch What Happens Live last night, Jill Zarin tweeted to Andy Cohen:

@JillZarin to: @bravoandy I want you to know I did call B 7 days after the reunion like I said I would. I waited for her to call me back. She never did.

Jill Zarin, to join the dozens of people who responded to your tweet here, first of all, Andy doesn’t care. But let me add just how “High School” your tweet sounded and that you need to get a life as well as that Hobby that Bethenny suggested.

Maybe there was a very good reason Bethenny didn’t return your call, wait, I think I remember something on last season …there was a show and a bat shit crazy woman … there was a whole lot of “We’re done!” being said and calling cast mates telling them not to film with Bethenny, …if I recall there was Bethenny finally stating, “I don’t want anything to do with Jill”.

Maybe you missed all that, or your horrible memory has failed again so hopefully all those tweets you got in response to your moronic tweet will remind you that Bethenny doesn’t want any toxicity in her life, particularly with her baby girl.

Complete blog on Bethenny’s appearance on Watch What Happens Live tomorrow right here at IHJZ!

Until Next Time…..


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302 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

  1. jen says:

    I found it amusing that Camille , who doesn’t drink, was the first person to grab champagne at her party…..also, we’ll have to see the timing but does she really go to NY and the Tonys after Kalsey tells her he wants out? My guess is, if she does, it’s because she didn’t know about the mistress……

    B looked great on WWHL, and I am really into getting some skinny girl daily but they don’t say how long the $59.99 pack will last? Anyone know?

    • TLM says:

      Well, from Camille’s perspective, it was her last hurrah. I’m sure she felt she wasn’t going to be deprived of her chance to show off her last expensive gown, come hell or high water. The woman actually had the balls to say, “It’s his big night, and my big night too as far as I’m concerned.” Everything about Camille screams, “Look at me, look at me, look at me.” It’s her inner mantra. She actually said she loved that dress that said “Screw You” because it was “her anthem.” Who in the hell says that, or thinks that? She tries to act calm and not raise her voice, but the last few weeks of watching this woman leave no doubt: she is just seething with anger. Her every act is passive-aggressive, and the book she gave to Kyle was the icing on the cake.

      She is angry that no one takes her seriously, angry she doesn’t get the respect she believes she should have. And yet she takes no responsibility for that. Everyone else is jealous, everyone else just doesn’t understand that she works harder than everyone else and that she isn’t throwing herself at every man in sight, she’s just *friends* with them all. They all must be jealous of her frozen face or the fact that her husband is the best actor who ever lived on earth.

      I honestly have never seen anyone so utterly clueless as to how they come off. Camille sees herself as some kind of Norma Rae, and has convinced herself she’s fighting some noble battle and that she’s such a giver, when her own desperation, jealousy and selfishness have been the cause of most, if not all her problems.

      I was lucky enough to run into Anderson Cooper’s show just before he did the whole routine about the Ridiculist and how Camille was on it. I think it was fate, since I never run across Anderson’s show, but just happened to see that gem. And he picked up on Camille’s shoulder shrugs! I felt so validated. They did leave off the head bobs and the blinking, but I think everyone got the message.

      I did also like that Anderson, a serious newsman, said the Real Housewives is the greatest show to ever grace the airwaves. LOL. It’s got to be a matter of time before he comes out of the closet. 😉

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

        TLM – Is there any way you could point me to the link of Anderson/Ridiculist. I love him, and when I saw it posted on one of the blogs, I meant to get back to it. Now I can’t find it. I searched through the last few blogs, but no luck. I would so appreciate it. I really did want to look at it.

          • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

            Buffy, I love you for responding, but that link is something about Disneyworld. I appreciate the effort, but was able to find it on you tube after all. Thanks, and is it snowing there. We have about 4 inches. No one is staying home, however. Not like the last time.

            • buffywood says:

              Seriously? I was watching it again when I copied the link. Maybe it was still on the ad before it started, sorry.

              We got a littel snow, maybe 2 1/2 inches. It looked beautiful this morning and it is melting already.

            • buffywood says:

              I figured out what I did… my son was also playing on YouTube and I switched tabs and sent you his link. I am showing my blonde today.

              • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

                That’s ok, Buffy. Didn’t mean to cause you any trouble. I’m a blonde too. I show mine all the time.

        • TLM says:

          I don’t know wth that link below is, but this is the one to Anderson Cooper… http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/06/the-ridiculist-camille-grammer/

          • TLM says:

            BREAKING NEWS – Camille appears on Ellen today, and learns how to say “realtor”! (Ellen says it right once, and real-it-tor another time, which Camille corrects her on). http://ellen.warnerbros.com/videos/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e6f08a20-cf77-4872-bfbf-d0f7036c2ea7

            Oh, also, Ellen seems to be in much better shape than Camille, who’s huffing and puffing through the interview. And Ellen is quite a bit older than she is.

            The self-titled “Powerhouse behind Kelsey Grammer” says she hasn’t decided whether she’s coming back for Season 2 or not. She stresses that it’s important she and Kelsey get along so they can “coparent” their young children. Forget coparenting — I would just like to see one scene, just one, where Camille is acting as a parent at all.

      • jen says:

        I believe Anderson is out of the closet- he in fact lives with his bf and does nothing to hide his sexuality I believe….

        and also I watched Andy play it on WWHL and I felt like Andy wasn’t making fun of it but really believes AC love Camille (I thought he was making fun of her)? Anyone else get this impression?

        • TLM says:

          I’m joking about Anderson. No, he doesn’t hide, but he’s one of a number of celebs who has not formally said he is gay.

          I think AC loves Camille the way you love to hate a villain on a soap opera and don’t want them to leave. From the comments AC made, it’s obvious he thinks Camille is full of herself and full of BS. His statement that “she’s a giver” was dripping with sarcasm.

      • Melanie says:

        Camille Grammer wins the “Nicole Kidman-Isabella-Connor” Award for never having her kids with her or around her at any time.

        As a mother you know that when you’re in the kitchen, your kids are in the kitchen. But not Camille! At no time are her kids around her!

        The one scene in her NY Apartment, her kids were actually around her for once, with Kelsey, and she complained that the apartment was too small! It was too small because her kids actually were in the same room as her! She couldn’t stand it!

    • Justtomakeulaugh-bkaAMIA says:

      I sent a tweet asking if she replies (which i doubt) i’ll let you know ok?

    • Kathi says:

      I checked out the website this morning. You get 30 packets – use two the first five days and one thereafter, so if my math is right 25 days. And yes, I did order it, but its not available until February 6th.

  2. TLM says:

    I thought the whole Taylor-Russell thing was overblown. Yes, it seems like their marriage sucks. But why did it take her until now to tell him to just go home and that she would be home later? I never understood what the point was of her always leaving with him just because he decided he was tired or didn’t want to stay. I guess I’m not a believer that couples have to do everything together or have to travel in pairs like nuns. But the problem in that marriage is that her husband has zero personality or humor. In that sense, nothing to me has changed since the beginning of the show.

    • HD says:

      I think she decided at that moment because she had enough and she is probably consistently around some women (since the show) that are all outspoken and free regardless of being married or not. So she is now seeing a different world. One where she does not have to ask how high when her husband says jump.

      • klmh says:

        Right on the mark HD.

      • TLM says:

        I just don’t understand why now, and why period, considering she works outside the home, works with women who are victims of domestic violence, etc. There is just a missing piece of that story I don’t understand.

  3. tootsie says:

    Do I not recall that on WWH Bethenny did say she hadn’t seen or talked with Jill since that time “she reached out to me”. Wouldn’t that be the time Jillousy meant in her tweet? That was the luncheon they had. Wasn’t that the time Jill gave her some lifeless latkas before the parted? JZ is still in the “na na na na na na” stage. There is no hope for her, she is a 47 year old baby.

    • HD says:

      I thought she meant reach out after the reunion show. Not when she brought her those potato cakes. I think Jill may have mentioned doing lunch and I could be wrong but I don’t think Bethanny committed. She just kind of smiled. I think. Hell, I might of been drinking wine that night. LOL!

      • TLM says:

        What I think is terrible is that, with all her money, Jill never sent a baby gift. If she was so happy for B, and happy that she had what she wanted, she should have sent a gift. She should have just done it because it was the right thing to do, because it would back up what she said at the reunion, and she should have enclosed a sincere note that she did not expect anything back, but that she wanted to express her happiness for B and her family, and wish her the best of luck. I think her not sending anything showed how insincere her words at the reunion were. It was like, if I’m not getting a call back, then I’m not sending or doing anything. Everything about Jill seems to be based on what people can do for her, what payback she’s going to get. And that is just sad.

        • HD says:

          I thought she did send a gift.

          • MickeyMouth says:

            I think I remember Jill somewhere commenting that she bought a gift. I also think someone asked Bethenny if Jill ever gave Bryn a gift and she commented no. I thought that meant that Jill bought a gift in order to hand deliver to the baby. Since she received no invitation to visit she didn’t give her the gift.

            • buffywood says:

              I kinda remember the same thing. Bought but not given as no chance to hand deliver.

            • BessiB says:

              ..and so that Jill could say “I bought her a gift and she did not even invite me over to see the baby”.

              • TLM says:

                How pathetic is that? She bought a gift but didn’t just send it? I guess it’s all about Jill. If she can’t make a big splash, she doesn’t give the gift.

        • klmh says:

          Can anyone here ask JZ about the baby gift? Tweet or something? That will be interesting.

          • twoile says:

            I remember shill responding several x’s to interviewers ?s that she (shill) has a gift 4 the baby, but still waiting to see her etc. It was obvious that the gift was/is conditional, as is everything w/shill. No invite=no gift.>/

            • TLM says:

              Really? When is she going to give Bryn the gift, on her 10th birthday? This idiot doesn’t seem to learn from her mistakes much. It’s a repeat of “I made you latkes” and “Surpriiiiiiiiise!” in St. John. BTW she said she was going to arrive “gift in hand” in St John — where were the gifts, exactly, that were supposed to smooth everything over?

              Hopefully Jill has at least learned to go to the bathroom before she makes her cuckoo entrances in the future, so she doesn’t have to bitch about not being offered a bathroom visit. Maybe she should just wear Depends.

              • BessiB says:

                1. if she does not get, she does not give.

                2. She did not need to pee. There is not a woman her age on the planet that will get in a car, much less a plane, without requesting to use the facilities, first, is she thought she could not make it.

    • LilyLynn says:

      Bet those latkes ended up in the trash or Bethenny handed them off to someone on the street. I know I wouldn’t have eaten them.

      • TLM says:

        I was thinking the same thing, Lily. I don’t even think she would have given them to Cookie, and if I were her they would have gone right in the next public trashcan I walked by.

  4. kotagirl29 says:

    Great Blog!

    When all is said and done, last night’s episode of HW’s was pretty boring. The scene with Cedric seemed contrived and watching Camille slobber over other people’s husbands while behaving like an insipid twit was annoying. I’ll probably get flayed for saying this, but I don’t hate Taylor or her lips and I think if she put on a few pounds she wouldn’t look so much like Steven Tyler. We don’t know what their relationship was like when they met so I don’t feel comfortable putting down what they have now. Maybe its not perfect, but there aren’t too many marriages that are. We are all pretty guilty when it comes to jumping to conclusions based on what we see. To prove that point, I noticed Mauricio giving the hair stylist a pretty lecherous look when they were talking about her coming to the party later. Does that mean he really is a cheater? I doubt it, but I am sure someone besides me will speculate about it now. Lisa is great, but as much as she wants to help Cedric, it is time for him to (if not move out) get a job, pay some rent, buy his own car, and pay for his own gas. Adrienne was again a non-entity this episode as was Kim. All in all pretty boring show. Bring on the drama Bravo! I almost fell asleep last night.

    • TLM says:

      I actually fell asleep TWICE in the first two times the episode was shown. Woke up for Bethenny and then stayed awake for the third airing.

      Yeah, the Mauricio “nice” comments were odd, but I was wondering if Bravo dropped the word in more than once for emphasis when he didn’t say it. They do that a lot, like repeating Kim’s saying, “Mommy’s a baby.” After watching way too many of these shows, I’m starting to get the hang of when the editors play little games. I thought it was interesting how Kyle was suddenly so cynical about Cedric. Cedric got critiqued by Bethenny as well for telling a really heavy story, but I have to say, I didn’t think it was the appropriate time or place to ask Cedric to tell that story. After dinner maybe, pulled aside maybe, one on one, but not “please pass the salad dressing and oh yeah, what was the story of your troubled past?” You knew it wasn’t going to be a happy one. After all, the end result was that this guy had no family and that’s ostensibly why he lives with Lisa to begin with. Whether his story is true or not didn’t really matter to me. Lisa likes his company, apparently he hasn’t stolen from them, and does do work for them at the restaurant. I guess there are people thinking this is a real-life case of Six Degrees of Separation, but I just am not that interested. I think Cedric is a minor cast member at best.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        While I didn’t think the dinner table was the appropriate place to drudge all of that u p, my gut tells me he producers played a part in it- otherwise it would be a rather boring dinner. I also think that had a lot to do with the ‘almost proposal’.

    • TLM says:

      Oh yeah, I was hoping Taylor would eat that cake on the ride home. The woman badly needs to gain like 20 lbs.

    • Susie says:

      I noticed that REAL lecherous look Mauricio gave the stylist too. Wow. Almost made me uncomfortable.

  5. HD says:

    Hey, Lynn. Thanks for the new blog.

    I was wondering about Cedric and why he lived with Lisa and her husband and then I heard the story. I agree with you, why did Kyle have to know right at that moment about his life story. Goodness. This is the same kind of stuff that happened at Camille’s dinner. Although the medium was nuts and Camille is crazy the woman clearly said she was off the clock. Let it be. I understood that and they just kept asking and asking. Leave stuff alone sometimes. Kyle could have asked Cedric that at another time.

    I am soooooooooooooo interested in next week! Did you see on WWHL that Andy said there is an article out or coming out that says Camille is the most hated housewife ever? How did she surpass Jill?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I think it’s only because RHOBH is airing right now and New York isn’t, so Camille is fresh in everyone’s mind and therefore the most hated housewife…right now. I’m sure Jill will take the title back once NY episodes begin to air. 🙂

      • error404 says:

        Jill and Kiki were slow burns. Jill was actually very popular for two seasons, and therefore still wears the crown as the housewife to take the most shocking fall from grace.

        Camille just went straight to “Scary Island” in like the 3rd episode. Yeah, “I’m up here and you’re down here” was bitchy, but no where near as crazy as thinking you heard “Why would anyone be interested in you without Kelsey”. Note to Camille: next time you make up a lie, at least make up a sentence that would be believable. I have no doubt that that exact thought was in Kyle’s head, but people just don’t talk like that.

        • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

          Error – you are on fire today. Love, love your note to Camille.

    • jen says:

      Life and Style Magazine’s cover story is Camille is most hated housewife ever

  6. Justtomakeulaugh-bkaAMIA says:

    OMIB & Lynn, I’m back on twitter are you gonna follow me? @meamia000
    I didn’t watch last night. But my thoughts after reading..
    Anyways, I like Adriane but them kids need some discipline breaking Dad’s nose 2 times? WTF? Adrianne seems to blame Paul all the time. Maybe I’m just old school.
    Taylor, that’s what you get when you marry for money.
    Camille, I agree Bravo why not show us what Camille does all day to why she is so busy.
    Lisa- LOVE HER but I sense there is a little 2 face going on with her & Cedric just my opinion. Yes, Cedric isn’t the best house guest but I don’t like b4 she started to confront him that she was talking about him. Not good to do on camera. My opinion we all can agree to disagree right? I still love Lisa though.
    My thoughts on D.C. your open letter.
    Lynn, you missed how there was an investigation in to why A DC metro police car was escorting the Salami’s to the Party. The conclusion was that it was editing. THE PRODUCTION COMPANY MADE IT SEEM THAT WAY. I’m not sticking up for the Salami’s but hate to see when a truth like this comes up and then ppl may believe them on the other stuff they REALLY DID I’d be here all day if I lasted all those. You all know that I have a friend who ran a catering business in Dc and they stiffed them and finally when they threatened to take them to court they wrote them a bad check was sure to make sure the check wasn’t in their name. Long story but pisses me off to think about it.
    Has anyone tweeted Patti & asked why she had a millionaire on that sued TSA on her show? She is so against trust fund babies being million are’s thinks they didn’t actually work for their money. I just refuse to interact with her. But what I do love from what i hear you know I’ll never watch it that Dustin & his wife are giving style suggestions. LOL they look like they came from a satanic up bringing. I Know I shouldn’t judge but WOW lol look in the mirror..
    So, I have a bunch of jokes that I swear am gonna make them to a blog but would like to do on wordpress.com I will pay someone $20.00 if they help me with it. I can’t figure it the site out for the life of me. I need followers @meamia000 I am gonna try not to get involved in arguments or but a damper on sticking up for people i should say b/c that how they start . I did call out just one person so far but it was deserved. But I’m done. If you knew the whole story you would understand.
    Lynn, I never got a chance to respond when you thanked me out loud b/c some smuck decided it was their business to get involved.
    First off, you know like & luv ya like a sister, friend & how do I say this Mother? lol How about Auntie lol your not that old. But Lynn I know you appreciate me sticking up for you, as I said, If ppl just had regular twitter names and not made up a name with your name in it I wouldn’t of got to involved to the extent I did. But it angered me that ppl that who aren’t in to drama as they say actually followed this person and egged her on. So with that being said there was no need for you to thank me on the blog b/c I don’t contribute but you have thanked me enough personally and to you haters I’m 32 not a child, I don’t need to be praised and patted on the ass and called a good girl. But I do thank you Lynn for providing us with great entertainment blog. I saw a month back where there was a debate on the name of the blog. I waited to comment b/c it pissed me off & I figured if I commented then it wouldn’t of been pretty. I know how I found the blog was one day being so pissed about a RHONY episode I typed in google IHJZ found this site ben here since.
    Now yes one time my fiance said to me what are you doing reading a blog with that title, after I explained what it was then he was okay. I’ll read what I want regardless but we are a team in life and i didn’t want him thinking that I’m in to hate lol. I’m sure you all experienced that too. But I think it’s Lynn’s blog and it’s up to LYNN to keep the blog to what ever name she wants. AGAIN it’s not even called IHJZ it’s called LynnNchicago101 so there HUH. Too bad it could never be called I love to hate Jill Zarin b/c I don’t like her that much even lol
    Lynn, good job not letting ppl pur sway( <- lol how you spell that for real? ) to do things you don't want to do. Do you think your next HW port. could be on Teresa & Joe or are you waiting?
    Love you all & thanks so much for the support & advice I'm serious about the help for my wordpress offer.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      You read my mind….I’m working on Portrait of A Housewife – Teresa Giudice as we speak. I am hoping to post later today!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Hi there-
      I don’t twitter. I can’t figure it out. But I somehow “discovered” a way to view tweets online- after they’ve already been out there for like hours. There’s no way to respond though, and I don’t think you have to follow anyone to see the tweets unless they’re protected.

      A certain someone who shall not be named doesn’t have her tweets protected so I saw some of the comments aimed at you, which is how I knew who you were when you came onto the blog a few days ago. (whew- is any of this making sense?)

      BTW I think you mean “persuade” LOL.

      I will try and figure this twat thingy out so I can follow you!

    • TLM says:

      I’d like to know how “funny” and “so dramatic” Adrienne would think it was if her son kicked her in the nose and broke it. Actually, I’m praying for that since she needs a good plastic surgeon. She looks like a contestant on Ru Paul’s drag queen show, wardrobe and all.

      I don’t get what the enormous popularity of Adrienne is. I personally think she’s like a robot, has no compassion for her husband and seems to delight in anything bad that happens to him. Even when her uncle died, she was like, “Oh. Oh. I should go now.” The woman has no emotions, ever. She looks like she could get on stage at the Palms with any drag queen act and blend right in. I guess that will be convenient if anyone ever calls out sick.

  7. Kellita says:

    Good morning! Great blog as usual, Lynne.

    While I think it’s kind of Lisa to take him in, I agree that Cedric needs to be given some chores to do, and an estimated time of departure. Letting him just hang out indefinitely without any responsibilities really isn’t helping him in the long run.

    Taylor and Russell would benefit from some marriage counseling, for serious. I think she married him for his money and his stability, but now wants to change an apple into an orange. Hopefully they can learn to communicate better, understand one another, and grow together.

    Loved the White Party! It looked fun and I wanted to join in. 🙂

    • sophie says:

      If Cedric is living there scot free, no room or board or chores…that’s pathetic. I don’t care how rich they are. They aren’t giving their own children ‘free rides’. They’ve made it a point that they are there for their kids, and also expect them to find what it is they want to do in life and do it.

      If I were their son, I’d be pretty peeved they sent me away because of behavior issues but keep this freeloader there so mommy can have someone to ‘play’ with.

      If I were either of their children, I’d find his presence in their lives hurtful and annoying. If they want to help him out, give him a damn job, one where he’s paid enough to live on his own, even if this means he has to share an apartment or home with 5 roommates, or get a studio apartment. They aren’t ‘helping’ him out. He apparently survived many years on the street, so it’s not like the guy is exactly helpless.

      • Had Enough! says:

        See below. It could be that Cedric performs certain other services, for either Ken or Lisa or both.

  8. TrueLifeDiva says:

    That tweet to Andy from Jill shows she truly does not get it. Some bells cannot be un-rang (you know what I mean to say). Bethenny has moved on and Jill is still playing PR games. Sometimes when a friend cuts you so deeply, no apology will do. Sometimes you have to love your friends from afar. I’ve had a friend like Jill in the past. She made my blood pressure rise and stomach churn with her childish antics. She offended my boyfriend, my mom, and friends to the point that I had to choose. She assumed I would choose her over everyone else. She was wrong. Bethenny was wise to leave Jill alone when she did.

  9. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    I think Jill is going to be sorry that she tweeted that to Andy. She is getting ripped on Twitter. People are telling her that they wouldn’t call her back either, that she needs to move on, and that she is still keeping score. 99% of the feedback is negative. Jill is trying to make herself look good but she ends up looking bad. She can’t get out of her own way. LOL!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


      so true, isn’t it?

    • FlowerPower (no longer StillAWallflower) says:

      Ah, Jill Zarin, the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you, Bravo.

    • Nancy says:

      IF Jill had any brains (which we know she doesn’t) why would she give PROOF that she was even watching WWHL knowing Bethenny was going to be on it? Can we spell IDIOT?

  10. error404 says:

    great recap as usual!

    – Cedric’s tearjerker tale was 30 years old and does nothing to explain/excuse his current behavior as a grown man. Nor does it explain Lisa’s IMO freigned ignorance. I think she’s building for a blow out she knows is coming.

    – Dear Camille: if you really did have someone else carry your babies because of IBS, throwing up jealousy of your bikini bod to women who had carried their own is tacky, insensitive and downright rude. If you need to know why America hates your guts, look no further than this one scene.

    – I will never in 100 years understand why breeders think it’s ok to teach their boys how to beat each other up for fun. Yes Adreinne, laugh now while he’s 4. Cry later when he’s 14 and in jouvie for GBH. Idiot.

    – Russell: reminds me of Peter, or Joe, or Greg, or name any of a dozen real househusbands. It’s so sad to watch these housewives moan about me me me while their husbands stress out because their businesses are going down the tubes. Mars and Venus: “well, he never said in words he had serious business problems, so all of the moodiness and stress must just be because I married a jerk. Poor poor me.”

    • TLM says:

      I don’t know what GBH is either, but I would assume assault or battery are the probable consequences. I would not laugh off a kid’s breaking his father’s nose twice, even if he is four. He needs to learn limits and altruism and I don’t think 4 or 5 is too young for that. I would take this kid to a child psychiatrist and start using some discipline. When is she going to take it seriously, when he hits Paul so hard the bones go into his brain and land him in ICU? And her only comment is that he has a great kick, and that she hopes Paul “didn’t make him feel bad”? That is seriously fucked up. Adrienne is totally insensitive to Paul and is not so subtly happy about the kid hitting him. What’s next, the dog? Another child? She’s raising a bully.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      “Cedric’s tearjerker tale was 30 years old and does nothing to explain/excuse his current behavior as a grown man.”

      omg- so right! I thought that too! so OK that is a really shitty upbringing, and it’s so nice that you regard Lisa as a surrogate mommy but WTH are you doing with your life? just a hanger on.

      I also agree with you regarding Adrienne. I grew up with a brother and cousins that reveled in rough housing. My family’s whole attitude was boys will be boys, TO A POINT. There was never a broken bone! There were never ANY injuries other than an occasional rug burn from wrestling on the carpet. If any one of them hit or kicked my father in the face hard enough to break his nose, there would have been HELL to pay no matter how young the boys were. That is just so not normal!

      What is he doing to them that is getting them so riled up that they are kicking him in the face? Haven’t they ever heard of a “time out”?

      • Kellita says:

        I was thinking the same thing. Little boys are active and physical, but TWO recent broken noses on dad? What does their play time look like, exactly??

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Right on all accounts-

      Cedric seems to be more of a houseboy without the fringe benefit than a typical house guest or friend. I found the whole thing with him in the roman bath and the pool in banana hammock type briefs somewhat suggestive. I can totally see why Ken is getting to be at is wits end with it.

      Camille’s ‘jealously’ comment was beyond ridiculous. Only Kyle mentioned why did didn’t want to strip down to her bikini but even if Adrienne reasons where the same- them being self conscious about their bodies and not wanting to be wearing minimal clothing in a large group while being filmed is a reflection of how they feel about themselves- and doesn’t have anything to do with Camille.

      I am starting to feel like the accusation of ‘jealous’ is much like the new wolf cry of ‘bully’ used by some housewifes as a way to shield themselves from being accountable for their behavior. ‘Hey Camille, why did you feel the need to say your husband is higher on the Hollywood food chain than Kyles?’- “Everyone is just jealous of me!’. “Hey, Kelly why did you tell Bethany she was a ho bag and she should just get over her fathers death?”- “I am the victim of systematic bulling”.

      I think I said before that I thought Adrienne was a little too laissez faire with her reaction to Paul’s nose being broken by their kid roughhousing. On that note- I am not sure if I think his real nose was broken- since everything I have seen on-it’s accompanied by black eyes- I think whatever prospected he had in there probably got messed up.

      I also think these same women who claim to be in denial- could very well be the next Teresa’s in bankruptcy court.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        *- I think whatever prosthetic he had in there probably got messed up.

        The other comment is funny because it reminds me of (Shars) daughter talking about ‘gold digging’ but not in the nose-but in caves.

  11. Justtomakeulaugh-bkaAMIA says:

    Lynn, Maybe you can edit your post real quick on the letter to Andy Cohen and bring up the “cops & limo ride” as an example of bad production?

  12. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Error404, please forgive my ignorance but what does GBH mean?

    • Diana says:

      I’m guessing Great Bodily Harm

      • HD says:

        I thought it was Grave Bodily Harm…

        • error404 says:

          Grievous Bodily Harm, as said in UK. I think we call it Assault and Battery here.

          • TLM says:

            Are u in the UK?

            • error404 says:

              no, i just watch too much british tv! lol The characters on EastEnders are always being charged for GBH, and somehow that popped into my head before Assault&Battery.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                I used to be the biggest EE fan when I was visiting family in Ireland. It was playing on one of the PBS channel but they ended up getting rid of it so I haven’t seen it in years.

                Are those awful Mitchell Brothers still up to no good?

                • error404 says:

                  Grant is gone, as are Peggy and Sam, but Phil was a crackhead for a while, burned the Vic down and then got clean.

                  Their cousin Ronnie is currently in the hot seat for stealing Kat Slater’s baby.

                  • Rabble Rouser says:

                    The Vic got burnt down? What are the using for a watering hole now?

                    Does Ian still own the cafe?

                    • error404 says:

                      story behind the story is they needed to rebuild the set for HD tv, so they worked burning ti down into the show. Kat and Alfie returned to the sq and now run the rebuilt Vic.

                  • Rabble Rouser says:

                    Oh- and did you have a crush on Wicksy? I did 🙂

              • TLM says:

                I never understood that show. And I thought I had a good ear for accents. Forget it. Never understood the popularity of it, even among straight men in the UK!!! But I never liked AbFab either. I did love Monty Python and Benny Hill, though.

              • Debbie says:

                I love UK TV. I’ve been streaming a number of BBC how on Netflix and find I enjoy them a lot. I’ve been watching their ‘CSI’ like shows and a other series. One thing I’ve found i that their casting is much more ‘real’. They don’t have a lot of beautiful buxom women running around in heels for instance, solving crimes. Most look like ‘everyday people’. Interesting differences between US and UK casting and programming.

                • Debbie says:

                  sorry for typos . i’m distracted by the way overweight refrigerator repair guy. i think he’s been eating content of peeps fridges while repairing. man, this guy is fat.. and my dogs are eying him suspiciously.

  13. AZ Girl says:

    I find it amazing that we see Kyle pushing her kids on a swing set, birthday lunch with Lisa and her daughter Pandora, Kim always wanting to be with her kids, Paul having a broken nose twice for rough housing around with his son BUT…

    Only TWICE we have seen Camille interact with her kids. There is no indication that Camille has any interaction with them. No picking them up from school, no fixing snacks, lunches, dinner, NOTHING! I feel so sorry for those children.

    • error404 says:

      to be fair, if I was on a show I think I’d limit my kids airtime too. I wouldn’t throw a Michael Jackson towel over their heads, but their dad is famous and they are at that inbetween age… Porcha is very young and Farah almost an adult, but you don’t see Kyle’s middle two kids much.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I wonder if Camille would even know how to get to her kids school without GPS

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I think we saw Camille’s son briefly yesterday by the pool where the two nannies were standing by while mommy played tennis.

    • TLM says:

      Exactly. Someone earlier was asking, “Why do we need to see Camille on the phone so much, inviting people to things?” The reason is that she is never with her kids or her husband, and that’s her whole life — calling people to come over and party with her. Or calling Nick to come over. Despite what Camille says, she doesn’t have much going on in her life at all. And now it’s even less. Even that big “power meeting” she had for Gramnet was in a renovated barn like a whole 20 paces from her house.


      Like she couldn’t have met that writer in her living room? Then she apologized to the writer that it was “quite a drive” for him. Their little conversation could have taken 5 minutes on the phone, or on Skype. I’m sure anyone working with Gramnet is so happy that this self-important bitch is out of the picture and they don’t have to kiss her size 2 ass in order to do business with Kelsey anymore. A secretary could fulfill the function she had.

      On IMDB she is listed as a producer NOT for Medium, but for 2 Christmas shows and one called — I’m not making this up – Neurotic Tendencies. That was back in 2001, btw.

      I am sorry I missed her appearance on Ellen today. Hopefully that will be posted somewhere.

      • BessiB says:

        I did not buy into that stint for a second. I think he just came by to drop something off or bring her a message for Kelsey at her request. The production company offices are in LA

    • Had Enough! says:

      Were the kids even at the tennis/pool party? I don’t remember seeing them.

  14. LOL I for got I had a word press account so if anyone wants to reply to me on justtomakeulaugh-BKAamia reply here on the blog offer me pay you to help.

  15. Fabulous Earth says:

    Real Housewives of New York’ star LuAnn de Lesseps’ daughter caught in drug video on YouTube.


    Hey all! I read this and just knew you guys would have the scoop on this since I can’t seem to find the video online. Happy New Year to all!!!

    • jen says:

      It was yanked off You Tube I believe….

    • Debbie says:

      Too rushed to go for the link, but there was an article in NY Post today, saying LuAnn found out Thursday,during filming in Atlantic City that the video was out there and re tweeted byRamona. Producers tried to get to her to confront Ramona on camera, she declined and left the set with Jill to talk privately. Oh, she was furious.

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

        Also, the video was posted on yesterday’s blog (or maybe the day before yesterday), but only for a few minutes before it was taken down. A few posters were able to view it but not too many. I saw about half of it.

    • TLM says:

      Like I said, Victoria De Lesseps is another Lindsay Lohan/Paris Hilton in the making.

  16. Night Light says:

    I teared up for Taylor my heart broke over her scenes. I really hope she seeks therapy for herself and her marraige for her daughters sake. After having seen RHOBH up to now I don’t think Taylor is heartless like Camel she is just lost. I root for Taylor and Kim and I think they have more common than they realize. They both need someone gentle to love them and I hope they find it!

    • error404 says:

      I’m not a therapist, but I play on on the web: I prescribe a little less time talking about your marital problems to the tv camera, and a little more time talking openly to your husband.

      • kitkat says:

        I thinks she really is milking this…everytime she’s shown with Russell (especially at the white party) she puts on this sad, wittle face and casts her eyes down and takes a deep, heavy sigh…she knows the cameras are there, I think a lot of this is acting, or rather, overacting. Not all, but a lot. On another point, she had a very traumatic upbringing with lots of violence and emotion, which is probably why she chose such an emotionally dull mate. She probably wanted the opposite of the life she knew and got it. Sadly, she never had a normal, healthy male role model…

    • TLM says:

      I think Taylor and Kim may be hitting the bars together soon enough, so they may as well become better friends. I don’t like to predict bad fortune for anyone nice, but I think Taylor’s marriage isn’t long for this world. If they even have a Vicki-Donn attempt at renewing their marriage – which I don’t think he will be open to – I don’t think it will last. There is something fundamentally missing in the relationship. To hear this woman say things like, “When do you and your husband develop a friendship” is stunning to me. I mean, the notion that she didn’t know you need that first, or that you aren’t sure if you “deserve” to be happy, is just mindblowing to me, especially after her work with abused women. I think Taylor has some huge blind spots due to her earlier abuse that for whatever reason, still have not been worked out. Bethenny could have married rich several times but backed out, because she knew it would mean she would be controlled by those men. Ultimately she is happier being married to someone where she is the main breadwinner. I think once Taylor breaks free of Russell, she’ll feel a new happiness she didn’t realize she could have, ie. Tamra Barney. I just don’t see her marriage getting any better than it is now.

  17. Night Light says:

    Regarding Cedric’s story, I believe him. I think we should always remember how much as adults we work to overcome our childhood. If you are so fortunate to have had one or two of your parents support then consider yourself blessed. For the rest of us, we are work in progress. Having said all that, I don’t believe in hiding behind a traumatic childhood and using it as an excuse.

  18. plainviewsue says:

    I was one of those that tweeted to Jill. She just still doesn’t get it. Bethenny didn’t want to hug her at the reunion; she doesn’t want any part of her. But she needed to tweat so the world thinks she is the better person. Sorry Jill. We all saw your true colors and they will never change.

    • Night Light says:

      If life is as good as Jill says it is, just leave it alone. Bethenny didn’t say Jill didn’t reach out to her, she said they had not spoke so no status. Jill just needs to leave it alone. Bitter is not a good look.

  19. HD says:

    Did someone already post this tidbit from Jill:

    Jill Zarin’s Tips for Dealing With Frenemies

    Jill Zarin celebrates her tenth wedding anniversary this week during the Season of the Witch premiere held at AMC Loews Lincoln Square in NYC.

    While the Real Housewives star is lovey-dovey with hubby Bobby, but she is best known for her volatile situation with co-star Bethenny Frankel.

    What has she learned about dealing with frenemies?

    “Be nice,” she tells me. “You get more out of life by being nice. Life is short. Just be nice to everybody.”

    She asks Bobby what he always tells her about the situation.

    “I never met a man I didn’t like,” he says. “Do you know what the ugliest word in the world is?”

    “Hate,” Jill chimes in.

    Bobby says, “Don’t hate anybody.”

    • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

      Honestly, Jill and Bobby Zarin, go take a hike. Does anyone really need advice from these two? Just give it up. Stop with the “don’t hate” stop with the “B didn’t call me back” Stop with the “bullying campaign” Just stop altogether. If anyone should disappear from the limlight and go on and just live their lives, it is these two.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh my! That is just priceless! Good find HD!

      Well Lynn, Bawby just took you to task. Somehow, I don’t think you’ll lose sleep over what Bobby Zarin thinks about your blog.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      hmmmm….. and I always thought it was Kumquat. Just sounds like the dirtiest word ever created. Ugly.

      • error404 says:


        Somehow it’s the combination of two perfectly innocent words that always makes me want to hurl… like “toerag” or “headcheese” eewwww

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          I am with you, on the sofa with popcorn, Big Daddy! I always cringe at words like that, and then I blush, because I know it is just my dirty little mind working its shady brand of magic with my psyche!

        • ches says:

          Or “toecheese”

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      “For my birthday, Bawbee is going to by me the copyright on the word “hate” and I am going to take it out of the dictionary”

      Just shut up Jill- no one cares but you and some random 16 year old.

  20. kotagirl29 says:

    Apparently that psycho Allison is making more predictions. . . . . . . . or does she have the inside scoop.

    • jen says:

      ha, nice prediction that was already confirmed by TMZ….she is SUCH a good psychic…(sarcasm here!!!)

      • BessiB says:

        Wrong, Allison. Kyle said on WWHL that she was at the taping of the reunion for 14 hours, not 8.

  21. Pantry Viewer says:

    I don’t Twitter. I know there is a way to see what people are tweeting, but is there a way for me to see the responses? I want to savor JZ’s negative responses.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      You can look at what she tweets here:


      But you can’t see what is tweeted back to her. Or maybe you can and I am just not smart enough to figure it out? LOL

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Thanks, OneMore. I was neauseated just looking at her Tweets and sad I couldn’t see responses! Can anyone cut a paste a few for me to sniff? LOL!

        • Nancy says:

          I was thinking the same thing. Too funny! Someone needs to tell the idiot that that picture of her (on her twitter page) obviously isn’t her AND IT SHOWS! Oh I forgot… she really is a size 2. (or does she report a size 0?)

      • MickeyMouth says:


        Toward the right not the older – newer tabs.

        • MickeyMouth says:

          oops – not should be note

        • Pantry Viewer says:

          Oh, thank you thank you! You complete me, Mickey 🙂

          Laughed at the one who said, “At least she’s keeping score” – ha!

          Thanks again,

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            LOL- I loved it too. Really- after all this time she is very clear she called Bethany 7 days after the reunion? Was this a chapter in her book “7 day bitch”.

            • error404 says:

              Luckily, she had her notes with her before she tweeted! lol

              Seriously, I can’t wait for the Zarin Notes to be declassified. She’s probably got more dirt on people that McCarthy had!

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                LOL- If she makes it into a book, it would probably sell better than “Secretes of a Jewish Mother”.

  22. MickeyMouth says:

    Cedric’s story seemed like a tale from Les Misérables. I don’t know whether he is telling the truth or not but I found it to be odd dinner party conversation.

    • error404 says:

      Sometimes it’s easier for them to just talk about it factually like it’s no big deal. They’ve moved on and it’s a fact of their past, not what defines them. Compared to how Taylor revealed her childhood, I don’t think either way is “right” or “wrong”, just different.

  23. kotagirl29 says:

    Camille in another interview. She sure talks to the press a lot for a private person. Although as much as I think she is a crappy person, I am a woman who has been cheated on and it sucks no matter how or why it happens.

    • error404 says:

      Like Kiki before her, Camille appears to live in a very elaborately constructed fantasy world of her own design. When either describes themselves, it’s usually the exact polar opposite of how they really are.

    • TLM says:

      She sure spreads her legs a lot for a private person too.

      “Um, I think I was in the lingirie edition of Playboy.” Otherwise known as Playboy’s spankathon rag. No “articles” for distraction. That’s our classy Camille!

      She’s probably the only person whose hoo-ha has gotten stuck to a metal HVAC unit in the cold. Remember how kids used to dare each other to lick a metal pole in winter? Go climb on another HVAC unit on the roof of a factory, Camille.

  24. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Pantry Viewer, here is how you read responses. Once you are on someones page look for the “@ mentions” button. Hit that and it will show every time someone tweeted @JillZarin on twitter. 😉

  25. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Jumpin’ Jigfrogs what has happened now? Every SINGLE time I have to take a few days away from here I come back to find myself confused and out of the loop and someone is hurt or leaving—Quincy? What the hell? I will go back through everything when I have the time but would someone care to summarize what I have missed? Why is Quincy not posting anymore? She has been around since day 1 and has never had issues with anyone that I remember, so what is going on?
    Had Enough–How you doing, Lady! I am feeling some cheesecake and in honor of the new year will be trying a weight watchers recipe with low fat cream cheese. Of course it won’t do much good if I end up eating the whole thing so get your butt in motion and come try it with me!

    • HD says:

      We really hashed that out a lot on the previous blog and I can only speak for myself but I would like to leave it there and start afresh with this blog where we are back on track. All the other comments and posts are on the previous blog for everyone to read. Quincy never said why she left so us rehashing it here and dissecting it will do no good but bring more drama to a new blog. She had her reasons. I think we should just start new here.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        Well, I am definately not about the drama so that is okay by me. I was afraid something had happened in her “real time” world that was serious enough to take her away from us. I haven’t read the other blog all the way, just skimmed through the usual names I always look for and saw her announcement. Couldn’t figure out if she was having some troubles or it was drama from here.
        Quincy, not having you post will suck. Out Loud. Through a straw.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Plane, Train, Automobile, Heck, make it a horse and buggy if you must!

  26. Adgirl says:

    Lisa Vanderpump is married to Ken Todd. It’s not “Lisa and Ken Vanderpump”.

    The correct reference to the couple is Lisa Vanderpump and Ken Todd. Alternatively, she is also known as Lisa Vanderpump-Todd.

    I have no idea why she’s kept that name either ….. 🙂

  27. MamaCat55 says:

    Just a quickie! I have decided that some of these housewives from all the shows suffer from SITOM! That would be “Stars in their own Mind!” They have a fellow member in Kate Gosselin, but we won’t go there! lol Next week should be interesting with the Kelsey-Camille face to face. I personally think there is more to Camille’s past than we even have seen on websites and she opened herself up to her past coming out! I don’t judge her for her past, I judge her for how she treats people in her present.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      LOL! As opposed to me, who suffers from CRS syndrome or, as my sister in law would put it the HUMA disease. (Can’t remember sh**, and the advanced version, Head Up My A**).

  28. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    This is Kelly’s latest tweet. WTH?

    kikilet @jillzarin someone @soulcycle who was sitting behind me told me I smelled so good, and they’d sit behind me anyday. How flattering

    • Golden Girl says:

      LOL! If she did smell good and someone told her she did it’s probably because she looks so smelly and greasy that they were shocked she didn’t stink and said something. I personally wouldn’t want to sit down wind of her in a spin class lol.

    • ches says:

      They probably had an undiagnosed brain tumor. Your sense of smell is always the first thing to go haywire with those.

  29. Obsessed with RH says:

    I just read some of the housewives blogs and in particular I find it interesting that Taylor says that she should have gone home with Russell because she didn’t have fun without him….also she said he was preoccupied bc he had to help get a family member into rehab that week…..while this nay be true, I find it telling that Taylor makes excuses for Russell’s behavior or, complains about it when it is happening and then qualifies it with some excuse later….I wonder if this has any correlation to her abusive childhood since I believe that pattern of behavior exists with abused partners/children….I feel like she us setting herself up for emotional abuse the way Russell seems to control her and she excuses the behavior..I could very well be stepping out on a limb with that one.

    Onto Camille…..I find it hysterical that she has quit the housewives and brought in her attorneys to get her out of her contract…..oh camel toe, I guess you couldnt take the heat so you are leaving the kitchen. I only hope bravo doesn’t cower and give you a better edit with the remaining episodes and reunion because then you won’t even be in the show. I want to shake these housewives that complain about editing. Did you not say those words? Is that not your voice? Cut it out and own it!!

    One more thing, if I ever happen to see allison the faux-medium, I’m going to find Adriennes sons and sic them on her….she could use a broken nose!

    • TLM says:

      I am sort of reminded of Jeana making excuses for her husband and son’s hideous treatment of her. If Russell has problems with family, then he should be drawing closer to his wife, not further away. She has picked a man who is controlling of her, maybe not by telling her what to do, but by withdrawing more if she doesn’t do what he wants. It’s another form of emotional abuse. Taylor needs to get out of that relationship.

  30. WindyCityWondering says:

    Just read the producer’s blog for RHBH – he states that someone at the reunion gets shockingly, explosively angry but that the said someone is not whom we would expect it to be. Andrienne immediately popped into my mind….

    • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

      I read that too. I was thinking maybe Lisa. If you watch the previews, she is not happy that Taylor and Kyle are becoming close friends. But with Bravo you never know. Reunion shows to air Jan. 27 and Feb. 1.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Thought of Lisa second as she has been very vocal about letting things go (Kyle and Camille) and the sisters’s behavior towards each other and not liking her fun spoiled by drama.

        • error404 says:

          Lisa also has the distinction of being Bethennyesque… so PC to everyone’s face, yet really gets some stinging digs in during the solo-commentaries filmed later. I can totally see Camille or Kim or someone calling her out as 2-faced ala Luann, and Lisa just not having it.

          Or maybe mousy Kim just snaps! If anyone has the right to cry “they edited me poorly” it’s Kim. Making her look like a lost child coming out of the theater bathroom was a low blow IMO. Another time she dropped her mike or something during a solo-cmmentary. Really Bravo, really? In all these years< Kim is the first HW to flub a solo. Really? And you just HAD to leave it in, no possibilities of a retake? Whatever.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      or kim?

  31. nancy says:

    Still believe Taylor likes the game with her hubby.
    she has this WOE is me and feel sorry for me attitude. Something is off about her. Hubby gets it and plays along. After all, Taylor did run home to him. Just my view.

    Lynn, glad to see your posts. Thank Gosh you are back.

  32. BessiB says:

    From the Brave Blog:

    Q: Bessi wants to know what I think of Allison DuBois (Camille’s’ friend and medium, who appeared in 109), who is claiming she looked bad on our show all because of editing.

    A: That’s what every person who’s ever appeared on a reality show and didn’t like how they came off says. I’ve already referred to that episode as an instant classic, and I believe it is. I do agree with Allison that Faye helped kick the fight up to another level by accusing Allison of not telling the truth. But that’s included in the episode.

    So, what the Big Fat Faker said in her Bullshit-Damage Control Press Tour is not confirmed to be exactly that – bullshit. There is no Faye stalking the perimiter of the conversation starting arguments that we have not seen.

  33. MSU Chicago says:

    My favorite part of the episode was watching Paul dance at Kyle’s party. He was having so much fun! There is something that I really like about him. I can’t pinpoint what it is, but he just seems like a good guy.

    Next week, Camille finds out about Kelsey leaving her. If I recall correctly, he tells her prior to the Tony’s, but she still goes with him. I recall her stating something to the effect that it was so hard for her to act happy, blah, blah blah.

    The Reunion should be a hoot.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      There is something I like about Paul too. He seems to have this sweet childlike quality about him at the same time as being a capable husband and father.

      • error404 says:

        Paul seems very nice, but overall he makes me very sad. It’s funny that someone can be so driven and successful, and yet still remain a sort of putz at heart. He follows his wife around with these big puppy eyes, and almost suffocates her, which wouldn’t be so noticeable if she didn’t constantly roll her eyes and try to dismiss him as irrelevant all of the time. It’s like they’re trapped in this perpetual role play of the HS geek trying to get the hot head cheerleader’s attention. They remind me of Meg Griffin and Connie DeMicco.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I agree.
          I also think that Adrienne is an ‘alpha’ female- who purposely chose a ‘beta’ male instead of an ‘alpha’ one because she probably gets enough of that dynamic dealing with her brothers.

          But what I think she is either failing to realize or doesn’t have the patience for is that Paul’s attraction to her strength is probably some sort of yearning for maternal affection where he wants to be nurtured and cared for by someone who at the same time still has the most power in the relationship.

          • TLM says:

            As I said before, I wonder how cute and funny Adrienne would think it is if one of her kids kicked her in the nose and broke it. Somehow I can’t picture her doing a jig and whistlin’ Dixie if that happened.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Exactly- or heaven forbid kicked one of their school chums in the face and broke their nose and ended up getting expelled like that shrew Kate Gosselin’s howler monkey’s- and ended up on Judy Judy with a law suit.

      • klmh says:

        I like him too. Adrienne, meh.

  34. klmh says:

    Great blog Lynn. Thanks

  35. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @TEB,on the Twitter home page put the persons name in the search box with “@” in front of it. That will give you comments TO that person. People talk to each other by putting the @ symbol in front othe their names. If you see what looks like a convo, right click on it. If it is a conversation you will be given the option to view the conversation in its entirety and it will be displayed. Otherwise you can just view the tweeters and tweetees seperately.

  36. SillyMe says:

    Hi Lynn thanks for another great recap! I was waiting for it since yesterday since I couldn’t watch the show! Here’s an article on people.com today about Camille Grammer saying Kelsey FORCED her to do the show and how she’s poorly portrayed on the show blah blah blah…just basically saying she’s a victim ohh cry me a river this woman is so annoying! Have a great weekend everyone! 🙂

  37. Need a Hobby says:

    Offhand BH rumination: It’s certainly not news to Taylor that a) she & her husband don’t have a torrid romance…I doubt they ever did: she makes repeated references IIRC to their marriage as if it were a business collaboration; b) she married a guy who’s not particularly social and isn’t going to be Mr. Smooth or the life of the party. He’s not going to change into someone else.

    I can’t help but think that Taylor’s weepy confessionals & personal discussions with others—for the cameras—-are perhaps at least in part for the purposes of a self-constructed story line. The more one has an intriguing story to follow, the more air time one gets. It’s like a soap opera. And Taylor’s teary duck-billed vulnerability actually made her sympathetic and possibly likable.

    Last night’s production values and editing toward the end of the white party were professional & impressive….reminiscent not of Bravo’s usual cheesy cinema verite home movies, but more like a scripted network drama. Perhaps a bit too polished, with the soundtrack, the beautiful shots of the beautiful people laughing & partying, while Taylor stands solitary & forlorn (with a partly consumed cake??) waiting for her limo. Certainly was a mood piece and effective. A little bit too effective. My consciousness of the production itself added to my pulling back from the story and looking for the strings behind the scenes. But that’s just me.

    I’m not saying Taylor’s being a complete phony in this. Her dissatisfaction is probably real. But at the same time, these BH gals are not naive about putting on an appearance & how to create an effect, whether they are or aren’t professional actors. If she’s acting at all, then she’s really good.

    Camille, take note: that’s how you portray vulnerable and wounded. Not by relishing on camera how you ground your heel into someone’s foot and then fake boohooing about how you’re a victim and everyone’s mean to you.

    • kitkat says:

      I agree about the editing at the white party being overdone…AND distracting! I also feel Taylor puts it on a bit thick and I have a sneaking suspicion the Russell doesn’t even know what’s going on! It’s like she doing all this sad stuff behind his back, even though he’s right there…if that makes any sense…

      • TLM says:

        The thing that really struck me was the music used during the end of that party, which was a total departure from any RH episode. It sounded to me like Evolution Media grabbed music from the end of a Cold Case episode, where you see the person being finally arrested and taken to jail, or from a great revealing moment on Law & Order. Were the producers getting super-highbrow and trying to suggest that Russell had murdered Taylor’s soul? I don’t know, but it turned way too macabre for me, and I didn’t think that music was warranted. As I said earlier, I think the basic issue is that these two are incompatible and what happened that night didn’t rise to the level of seriousness the production tried to impart. Or maybe Evolution typically works on dramas involving murder, who knows. It was definitely a departure from the Shed Media series we’ve seen. Playing that music while showing scenes of people laughing and dancing like crazy almost looked like a scene from Friday the 13th, where you’re seeing things through the eyes of the killer.

  38. FlowerPower (no longer StillAWallflower) says:

    Oh, man, I can’t get past HD’s post upthread:

    “Jill Zarin celebrates her tenth wedding anniversary this week during the Season of the Witch…”

    Laughing so hard, I’m crying and can’t see the screen.

  39. sammyjoesmom says:

    OT For all in weight struggles…”I just had a call from a charity asking me to donate some of my clothes to the starving people throughout the world. I told them to kiss my ass!!! Anybody who fits into my clothes ain’t starving!!! “

  40. sydney says:

    I’ve no idea how long Rusell and Taylor have been married but maybe some of you folks do.
    QUESTION: Was Taylor aware of Russell’s nefarious past business practices b/4 she married him or did they occurr during their marriage? The guy’s no good bottom line and I predict they will be divorcing next season. A woman can only take being ignored, unwanted and unappreciated for so long. Do you remember seeing how her eyes lit up, like a child at a birthday party, when she met and worked out with Adrienne’s boxing coach? Spoke volumes…..

    • klmh says:

      Taylor Armstrong “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” cast member husband Russell Armstrong filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy back in October of ’05.

      Armstrong, an investor, said he had less than $50,000 in assets and debt somewhere between 1 and 10 million bucks.

      Russell has been married to Taylor for seven years, he made a lot of money during the 1990’s “dot.com boom” but took a huge financial hit when everything crashed.

  41. sydney says:

    Here’s an article on people.com today about Camille Grammer saying Kelsey FORCED her to do the show and how she’s poorly portrayed on the show blah blah blah…just basically saying she’s a victim.

    ****No one forced BRAVO to edit Camille as a villan. She gave them the raw material and they ran with it. As for Kelsey he knew America would be on his side once we saw what she was really like….a conceited, non-maternal woman who was lucky enough to marry a man willing to provide a lifestyle she’d never have w/o him.

    Upon receipt of the divorce setlement Camille will become a CLICHE….. a rich divorcee with overly bleached blonde hair, stripper tits and weathered skin who’s reduced to fucking the pool boy and her tennis instructor. No man worth his salt will go near her….only CON MEN will be sniffing after her $$$$$. MEOW.

  42. Amber...Real Wife says:


    Mauricio loves his wife to death but Mauricio is a flirt! It’s confirmed with the “nice” comment and look. But one thing is for sure…he’s just an ordinary man who can appreciate a good looking woman, or women period! He looks at women because they look at him.

    Kyle is also good looking, and i’m sure she turns her head when she sees a nice looking man too. They have a wonderful marriage, which was envied by some of her guests as they danced. Kyle seems to be jealous, and if she ever found out he was cheating, she’d kill him! LOL

    With the exposure Mauricio has gotten on HW’s i’m sure he’ll be getting alot of work from the ladies and a whole lot of offers!

    • sammyjoesmom says:

      Can you even imagine just how many wealthy BH women see him on this show and decide to hire him to sell their homes when they divorce or just want to make a land purchase?

    • TLM says:

      Can I just say that, although Mauricio is in great physical shape, I don’t think he’s that great looking? I think he’s almost odd-looking facially. I just admire that they do seem to have a great marriage and that he’s a great dad to their kids. He was voted the hottest out of all the BH husbands, but look at who the other choices were. Personally, even though he’s older, Ken Todd would be more my type.

      I don’t blame Kyle for being a little possessive since women in BH — especially wealthy divorcees — are like sharks, and then you have all the young cute girls coming to California hoping to launch a modeling or acting career. It’s a bit of a jungle out there.

  43. sydney says:

    Onto Camille…..I find it hysterical that she has quit the housewives and brought in her attorneys to get her out of her contract…..oh camel toe, I guess you couldnt take the heat so you are leaving .

    **********It ain’t over yet…the fat lady hasn’t sung. Camille’s far too narcissistic NOT to be on the show. She’ll want to repair her reputation on Season 2 by pissing and moaning about the trials and tribulations of being a single mom….the old woe is me tour. She’ll also try blaming her heinous behaviour on Season 1 as being the direct result of knowing long b/4 anyone on the show (thank you Allison DuBois) that Kelsey was kicking was kicking her ass to the curb. We’ll call it Camille’s Mea Culpa Tour.

  44. terry aley says:

    Back after the holidays – my Top 10 Most Deranged Real Housewives Moments of the Week! http://terryaley.com/2011/01/07/jan-7-my-top-10-most-deranged-realhousewives-moments-of-the-week/

  45. mariareads says:

    Oh PUHLEEZE! Camille isn’t returning because she was edited badly?!!
    More like she’s humiliated that Kelsey dumped her and she acted like a rich bitch to the other women constantly bragging about being Kelsey’s wife and having a production company , blah, blah, blah. This woman is bat shit crazy. You think Jill is nuts? Uh uh. Jill is just a nasty piece of work. Camille is crazy, crazy, crazy. Either that or she is the meanest person I have ever seen. That reunion show must be insane! I can’t imagine who gets so terribly angry. It’s a toss up for me.
    Adrienne because she has been so quiet during the fights? Lisa who likes to appear as British gentility? Kim who is portrayed as an empty headed basket case? I can see Tyler getting really angry. She is one unhappy lady. Who knows? But I’ll be watching.

    Thanks for the latest blog, Lynn. So much fun to rehash it here. It’s COLD in MD and I don’t feel like moving tonight. No treadmill, no walk outside, no nothin!

  46. Wall St Lady says:

    Duchess of lint,
    U have been gone since b4 Thanksgiving. U reappear with no flowers & perfume ? Meantime I have cried myself to sleep every night missing u. U didn’t phone, u didn’t write & u didn’t even send a holiday present.
    Now u pop back on the board like a mermaid from the sea.
    Where the hairy lent ball
    Have u been ? ? ?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      wait a minute.

      Lent balls are hairy?

      What exactly is a lent ball?

      Oh. Do you mean lint ball? I swear I’m not making fun of you, I really thought there was some religious rite occurring at Lent that involved a hairy ball that I knew nothing about.

      • klmh says:


      • Need a Hobby says:

        Why, it’s the traditional Lenten anointing and shaving of the balls, of course. Usually a considered a sacrifice and also a test of one’s faith, especially in the days of the straight razor.

        (Still laughing maniacally….thanks, I needed that. LOL Now I feel a need to say a few preemptive Hail Marys in penance for that and I’m not even Catholic.)

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        obviously you are not a member of the Sacred Heart of Lint Trap church! It is a strange and little known sect of Catholic believers. We advocate the sanctity of fabric softner, and our motto is Cleanliness is next to Godliness. We do not seek the Holy Grail, but we ARE intrigued by the Bounce Dryer Bar.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      I was on here about a week ago! Your flowers are in the refrigerator, next to the champagne. They are a mixed bouquet of white roses, yellow and peach tulips (from Holland, you know) and white orchids. I picked them from Lisa Vanderpumps garden myself.
      I just had some things I needed to take care of. Personal stuff that is now controlled and all is good again. Thanks for caring, my dear WSL.

  47. Wall St Lady says:

    Flower power AKA wallflower
    Congrats on your new attitude !
    U must feel good to have grown from a lurker, to a timid poster to a full blown LynnFam er !
    I thought ur name transformation was very cool.
    I look forward to talking to u soon !

    • FlowerPower (no longer StillAWallflower) says:

      Thanks, WSL! It does feel good. In real life, I’m not actually shy, but I do better with small groups of friends than in crowds (never liked the loud party scene).

  48. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @OneMoreinBoston, jinx! We were writing about the same thing at the same time ;-). Umm, how’s the weather?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      well, Boston is supposed to get a storm tonight, but so far no snow. I went to the store and everything so there had best be some white stuff on the ground in the morning.
      But so far…so good…all’s quiet.

  49. ches says:

    I can’t believe Camille brought up the “women are jealous of me” thing again. Did it ever enter her mind that maybe the “jealous women” didn’t want to go swimming with her because they knew she had IBS and didn’t want to get caught in an underwater mud slide?

  50. FlowerPower (no longer StillAWallflower) says:

    It’s taking me forever to get through this episode (hate when real life interferes with reality tv). Just watched Camille “greeting” Nick–what got me more than the kiss was the way she wraps herself around him, pressing up against him, like an octopus wrapping its tentacles around a jar it wants to open.

    This show is getting to me. Last night (for real) I dreamed that as a reward for a job well done (long part of the dream) my boss–who turned out to be Kelsey Grammer–offered to take me a hotel for the night (promising separate rooms) so I could relax with room service, TV, and a bubble bath. I finally agreed, but on the way we had to stop to drop off a bag of groceries to a prostitute at a brothel. LOL. I woke up at that point–never got my bubble bath or room service.

    • lillybee says:

      That is a strange one.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      um…I’m a little concerned. I will have to crack open my dream dictionary on this one- it’s way weird

      • FlowerPower (no longer StillAWallflower) says:

        Any help is appreciated 🙂

        The dream was incredibly vivid (I left out most of the detail–it would have been longer than Lynn’s blog!) The “job” I was doing was handling a customer complaint by phone (rich older guy whose younger wife was supposed to have ridden home in one of our limos but didn’t because she was doing drugs and cheating on him, and I had to break the news to him while keeping him as a client).

  51. Waslurking says:

    What the hell has happened here?
    What started out (and yes I’ve been here since the beginning) as a place to
    snark/bitch/vent and was funny as hell has become the moral/PC police.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion…… but really, this place was for FUN.
    Not to pick each other apart and fight about where/who/what they are or have been
    in their lives. It’s a fucking blog………not a crime scene to be dissected.
    Do you all want to hear about how much I’ve cringed as many of you “diagnosed” Kelly with Borderline Personality Disorder during and after her breakdown/breakthrough as it was the worst thing in the world to have, all the killers and shit have it, right? Please! I have it. Take meds for it… yada yada.
    All this over sensitivity is fucking stupid!

    Lynn has lost hits because of the holier than tho folks that will argue till the cows come home..and back and forth and back… Oh you hurt my feelings… oh you hurt mine more…….my pov is different then yours…you’ll never understand where I’m coming from but I’ll shove it down your throat anyway…… ARUGH! STFU!
    Bring back the irreverent humor and snark!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Was lurking- thank you for posting. It is nice to see a different perspective. I’m glad you are part of the Lynn Family!

  52. klmh says:

    These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters that had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.

    ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
    WITNESS: He said , ‘Where am I, Cathy?’
    ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
    WITNESS: My name is Susan!

    ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis , does it affect your memory at all?
    WITNESS: Yes.
    ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
    WITNESS: I forget..
    ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?

    ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo?
    WITNESS: We both do.
    ATTORNEY: Voodoo?
    WITNESS: We do..
    ATTORNEY: You do?
    WITNESS: Yes , voodoo.

    ATTORNEY: Now doctor , isn’t it true that when a person dies in his sleep , he doesn’t know about it until the next morning?
    WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

    ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the 20-year-old, how old is he?
    WITNESS: He’s 20, much like your IQ.

    ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
    WITNESS: Are you shitting me?

    ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
    WITNESS: Yes.
    ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
    WITNESS: Getting laid.

    ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
    WITNESS: Yes.
    ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
    WITNESS: None.
    ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
    WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?

    ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
    WITNESS: By death..
    ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
    WITNESS: Take a guess.

    ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
    WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
    ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
    WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I’m going with male.

    ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
    WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.

    ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
    WITNESS: All of them.. The live ones put up too much of a fight.

    ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral , OK? What school did you go to?
    WITNESS: Oral…

    ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
    WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
    ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
    WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished.

    ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
    WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question?

    And last:

    ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
    WITNESS: No.
    ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
    WITNESS: No.
    ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
    WITNESS: No..
    ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
    WITNESS: No.
    ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
    WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
    ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
    WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practising law.

  53. Wall St Lady says:

    Duchess of lint
    Remember that thing that I have my fingers,toes & arms crossed for ? Can I un cross them yet ?

  54. Shannon says:

    2010 Reality TV Awards. New Jersey won for favorite Housewives series. I don’t understand why it’s so many peoples favorite. Scary Island came in third for best moment. Bethenny was up for a few awards but didn’t win anything. Her feud with Jill came in fifth for biggest feud.


  55. Wall St Lady says:

    On mo Bo
    If u r really good, I will put harry lent balls in ur Easter basket.

  56. Wall St Lady says:

    Harry lint balls live in a
    basket in the dryer
    and you
    don’t have to be good
    to get them.

  57. Prayingforthecure says:

    I read this blog at least once a week for entertainment. I am a mom of 4 children, 2 of whom were diagnosed with a genetic disease in 2009 that has no treatment or cure and I have been told that I should accept that I will outlive them which I refuse to do. I live in the midwest and work full time. I watch the housewives shows periodically to escape from my stress filled life and the reality of my children’s diagnosis. However, each and every day that I watch my kids struggle with their disease, I become more and more aware of the cruelty of real life and how it can tear even the best of us apart. Now as I read blogs and comments, I am starting to feel that sometimes we spend more time judging these characters we watch on TV than taking a good hard look at ourselves. How would it look if someone posted a video of me at times when I am only at my worst? Yikes! While I understand these women signed onto the show and opened themselves up, I have to wonder what was going on in their lives that made them do it. I mean in the position I’m in, I have huge medical bills and if a show was offered to me, I would be tempted to take it because even if I were made to be the villian, the best medical care for my kids would be worth it. So that makes me wonder about what made these women open themselves up for this love/hate gamble. With that being said, it makes me realize the fact that these Bravo shows only reveal short little snippets of people’s lives that are edited to only include the portions for which the producer of the show wishes to reveal to us. While you might see the worst parts of people, you might also only be seeing the best and which part is which is only really known by those who truly do have personal relationships with the show’s participants. I know that you are all intelligent women and already know this but for whatever reason, I find myself starting to become unable to understand the constant bashing of one character over the other. Maybe I’m just tired and grumpy or flat out premenstral, but when did we as women become so judgmental and, at times, so hateful towards other women? Have we all just lost our ability to sympathize or empathize with each other? Can we no longer tolerate each other’s faults? Do we gain some sort of personal “high” by relishing in the fact that there are those out there that might actually have worse character than we do? I say “we” because I am just as guitly of thinking some of the very things that others have said and I have participated in the past on other comment boards and some of my comments I now regret. I wonder why we do feel the need or desire to do it. Perhaps this is all just a way to vent our frustrations in life on something that cannot really retaliate against us.

    I don’t know why I even felt the need to post since I’ve read this blog for months without doing so, but I did. I don’t know if I will ever post again. Maybe I just drank too much wine tonight and have no personal sense of censorship in myself at the moment. Please forgive me for the ramble if that is the case which ultimately only I will ever really know.

    Anyway, to Lynn, your blog is a nice way for me to escape from my reality and for that I thank you. Good luck to all in this new year because it is always a good thing when women of the world succeed! Or so…I believe!

    • lillybee says:

      I am so sorry for you. I pray that sometime soon there will be a miracle cure for your children.
      You made some very good points. I wish that there was something I could do to help you.
      I used to work for social services and there are many programs that will help people who do not qualify for Medicaid. Are there any available in you state.
      I know that when I worked, I always went out of my way to let people who didn’t qualify for Medicaid to know what else was available.
      I wish I had something better to say.

    • Noelle says:

      @praying4the cure,
      Your last paragraph is why I was here….an escape from reality. Lynn’s blog had become exactly that!

      However, I would never be on a reality show, period. One that chooses to is beyond mad, in my opinion. You’re not a character…you’re real, hence “reality” show. I don’t feel bad about snarking about them one bit. You put yourself out there and this is the consequence of your so-called fame. No sympathy from me.

      Life is not candy-canes and unicorns. I know this.

      God bless your babies and may a cure be found.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I’m so sorry to hear that two of your children are battling a disorder where there is no cure. I know myself what it is like as a mother to worry about the future of your children.

      Obviously, in the grand scheme of things these women and these shows don’t matter- this is a form of escapism.

      Please continue to post- or at least know on the nights that you might have had an extra glass of wine of two- there will always be a few kind words of encouragement and prayers.

    • FlowerPower (no longer StillAWallflower) says:

      I’m so sorry about your children. I came here too as an escape from the stress of my personal reality and found that sympathy and empathy for and from other women (and men) to be thriving here.

      It’s shown in the comments the posters make to each other, the genuine support, prayers and advice offered freely to strangers. I see it in how welcoming many are towards we who lurk longest.

      I don’t think that the snark toward the Bravo women who have opted to do these shows takes away from the genuine goodness of the people here. Yes, maybe we don’t know the real reasons why any of them would choose to put their lives out there like that, but we do see the behaviors/comments/
      attitudes they choose to represent themselves.

      If they don’t have the sense to step away, then they are fair game. The Jill Zarins of the world are the ones not showing empathy, support, and sympathy for other women. Outrage at her behavior drove many to this blog.

      I hope you’ll stick around. I don’t mean to sound preachy, so sorry if I came off that way (haven’t had my coffee yet).

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


      I am so sorry to hear of your children’s illness.

      You have offered a different perspective than many posting here and your comments have given me some pause, as I agree with what you have said on some levels.

      I think that perhaps certain housewives are singled out for more judgement here because they are, at their core, hypocrites. And we see that their actions do not measure up to their words. We see their manipulation and deception and is makes us angry because we can all remember a time when we had someone behave that way to us.

      It is difficult for me to sympathize or empathize with someone who is cruel to or who steals from other people on the show and in real life. I am impatient with their lack of self awareness, and apparent unwillingness to change.

      I think in a way Bravo has set up it’s own little morality play, which is why there IS editing to show certain cast members in a bad light. But like our Noelle says, this is the game plan they signed up for. They went into this with eyes wide open.

      please post again, I like the way you think, and I like the way you write.

    • klmh says:

      Good post.

      Im sorry to hear about your children’s diagnosis. I hope you can enjoy the time you have with them now, looking to your day instead of the future, and take heart. Researchers are doing a lot these days with stem cells and who knows, their outcome could be different than the one given to you.

    • Prayingforthecure says:

      I appreciate the responses. I know we all have our own reasons for what we post. I just wonder at times why we allow ourselves to become so angry over people we don’t know when there is realization that what we are seeing may or may not be the entire story. Anyway, perhaps I allowed myself to dwell too deep in thought after too much wine which seems like an oxymoron that alcohol could induce deep thought…an no, I was smoking anything along with it. ha ha
      Also, I must confess that I do not hate Jill Zarin nor any other housewife on TV so that may make some of you rescind your invitation to me to continue to post. (wink) I do find myself truly disgusted at the Giudices although I admit to loving Teresa’s cookbook.
      As far as what I deal with in my personal life, I appreciate the prayers and sentiment.

      • Prayingforthecure says:

        I meant to say “and no, I wasn’t smoking anything”. I must type better when under the influence of alcohol. ha ha

  58. Rabble Rouser says:

    The premiere of The Jersey Shore 3 came in with records ratings…8.5 million. (I thought their 15 minutes were up)

    This is why 1000’s of birds are falling from the sky and the fish and crabs are dying.

    • TLM says:

      LOL Rabble!!!!

      I happened to catch part of it and I couldn’t believe that was the first episode. I am really disturbed by these violent young women. It seems that somehow women throwing punches have been given a pass, and I think they should be taken to jail for punching a guy in the face, or another girl, the same way a guy would be hauled off in cuffs. I am glad the girl on Teen Mom suffered repercussions for punching her boyfriend. This isn’t entertainment. These people need psychiatric intervention. I can only guess what the home life is like of young people who feel free to scream epithets and use their fists at the slightest provocation.

      • Noelle says:

        Shhhh (I watched it, and for entertainment sake) I thought it was the “Best of” highlights of the season! (I’m not kidding)

        Just Wow! I do not like the sam/ronny idiots..a couple taking up 2 beds in a three bed room.

      • error404 says:

        I’ve never actually seen so much as 5 minutes of it, but further proof that I’m way out of touch with the mass populace…

        After attempting to watch 1 episode of s2 of RHoNJ, I pronounced it “over”, “unwatchable” and “sure to be cancelled” only to find it had reached record breaking viewing numbers.

  59. Had Enough! says:



    The less hysterical translation: You know you are going to have a baaaaaaaad day when you start reading the morning paper and see this….

    • Had Enough! says:

      Although, it gets a whole let better about half way through the article:

      For instance, a superficial analysis might suggest that Ginger, the Chihuahua in Saturday’s “Me or the Dog,” is unbearable because her owner, an Upper East Side caricature (and “Real Housewives of New York” alum) named Jill Zarin, has lost the ability to distinguish normal human-dog interactions from abnormal. (The episode becomes unwatchable about the fourth time Ginger is allowed to stick her doggie tongue up Ms. Zarin’s nostrils.) But Ginger isn’t yapping, biting and inappropriately licking just because she happened to be paired with a permissive human. This kind of misbehavior takes generations of breeding to perfect.

    • error404 says:

      ha! I actually did start when I saw her face on my screen this morning! lol

    • BessiB says:

      ‘Upper east side Caricature”. Well, if it is in the Times, it must be true.

  60. mk says:

    I really miss Quincy’s voice of reason. It’s a shame others had to attack her like that….

    • lurker315 says:

      I’ve seen this happen on many blogs. There may be some behind-the-scenes stuff that Quincy doesn’t want to share. Is PM (private messaging) allowed?

      Hope Q will be back soon.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      @mk- with all due respect to you, no one “attacked” Quincy.
      All posts were polite and appropriate. I disagreed with Quincy. Period. If that is “attacking” someone than I really hope you never get into a disagreement with anyone ever, because evidently you equate it to a physical act of violence.

      Meanwhile by leaving the board in this manner, the blame is shifted to both myself and TLD, when I believe there were many other reasons that factored into her decision to leave.

      • error404 says:

        it’s like we have our own version of Real Housewives here… The Real Posters of I Hate Jill Zarin. lol

        hence, it’s not hard to see how 8 women locked in a room with copious alcohol leads to drama. It’s probably all real… speaking of which, whatever happened to Olivia? I’m out of the loop

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I know- right?
          Olivia just sort of went away…I’m hoping she’ll be back once RHONY comes back- I don’t think she liked the BH or RHOA.

        • Noelle says:

          @Mr. Error,

          Only if you come with us!!!

          Good Times! he-hee

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          I wondered the same thing! She just disappeared. I hope all is well and she’s just temporarily miffed.

      • Noelle says:

        Come here my little chickadee…

        I am more guilty than most!

        I fricking hate wooden nickels!! (Nothing @all!!) 😉

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          hi there babydoll- we never seem to be posting at the same time. How are you?

          • Noelle says:

            Hi there sweetest-of-the-sweet,

            I swore of this blog and here I yam! You peeps are too much fun to stay away!

            I’m in good health…so far so good! My hair is growing @a phenom rate! It’s so darkkkk and curlyyy! lol 🙂

            How’s your love life and your business?…

          • Noelle says:

            Alrighty then,
            I am fine. And you? *wink*

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              sorry babe went over to the other blog- I’m good honey. No man, still trying to recover from the last one! LOL

      • mk says:

        The blame has been shifted to the two of you. It’s a shame that someone who contributed so much to this board decided to leave. I think you believing there were many other reasons that factored in to her decision to leave is a way of making yourself feel better.

        • klmh says:

          I disagree. This board is supposed to be a way to share ideas and opinions with others. If you cant take the heat, so to speak, and what transpired to me was a disagreement and nothing else. If everyone agreed all the time, this board wouldn’t exist.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I haven’t seen you post here before, so you must be someone who has only lurked in the past.

          I am glad that you decided to post your opinion, as I believe all opinions are valid.

          Welcome to the Lynn family!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Even if the discussion with Q, TLD and OMIB had something to do with the decision for Q to leave- it clearly wasn’t the driving force behind it since she has said it’s something she has been thinking about for a while.

          There were other instances from before where someone was very abrupt and harsh with her.

          Quincy’s post will be missed by many of us- I am sure TLD and OMIB are included in that.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          There’s a “Rashomon effect” here regarding Q’s announcement that she was leaving posting here. People have speculated who and/or what are “to blame” based on their own subjective perspectives and perceptions.

          Q herself said it was a decision she had thought about for some time, it was not a rash decision made in just a matter of minutes. We don’t know what her reasons are for leaving. She has, so far, not shared with us her reasons, so various folks have speculated as to why. Taking her words at face value, we simply don’t know why.

          I do know proximity in time of events does not necessary signify cause & effect. Although of course we are left to wonder by the abruptness of Q’s announcement, she herself indicated no cause & effect and she easily could have.

          Two here had a momentary issue with Q on that specific blog entry, which appeared to be resolved at the time. Others in previous blogs had posted what appeared to be antagonistic posts regarding Q. Why not “blame” them as well if one is looking to blame others?

          Bottom line, we simply don’t know Q’s reasons. Q herself seemed to indicate that the reasons were other than a momentary tangle in discourse in that specific blog. And those may include issues other than events on this blog. Only Q really knows. And only Q truly is responsible for her decision to leave.

  61. Had Enough! says:

    Can someone explain to me why Cedric, allegedly born in France and “raised” in England, is named Cedric Martinez? Obviously, his mother could have been Spanish, but come on…That whole stupid story sounded like it was ripped off from Edith Piaf (except the phone booth). In fact, where do you get “Cedric” from a French mother? Cedric was originally a Welsh name, but was later used in other countries after it was used in Ivanhoe and Little Lord Fauntleroy, so I guess it is possible. It was the name of a popular comic book character in Belgium.


    Oh, and despite this tragic start, he allegedly earned a degree in chemistry from the University of Grenoble by the age of 20.


    So he’s hot and a freaking genius. Yeah, not buying it.

    D’ja know he dated Lance Bass? See my husband’s theory is that Ken Todd is gay or bi and if so, then maybe Cedric is likely Ken’s boy-toy and Lisa is the beard. And I found a couple of gay websites that suggest that was exactly what was going on. For the entire 15 years he lived with them. He’s apparently been given the boot now.

    • Noelle says:

      @had enough,

      If anyone can get to the bottom of this story, it’s you! Please try…I got tired just on google..on a lark!

      There are so many Cedric Martinez’s out there! It’s super scary…

    • Noelle says:

      I’m tired from looking @your links!!

      I lov u 😀

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      well hey now! That’s an interesting little twist-o-rama. Good find!

    • error404 says:

      I have a friend named Cedric who is… drumroll… Belgian!

    • error404 says:

      Ken’s not gay, he’s british! lol

      Any LA peeps wanna comment on the frequency of BH husbands with lap dogs in matching outfits? Is this a trend?

      • Noelle says:

        Thanks so much Mr. Error & One more in BOS for me spitting (not spewing) coffee all over my laptop!

        What a mess…when will I ever learn!! There should be a warning by your names! xo

    • Amber...Real Wife says:


      There can be Martinez’s in any country. Being that France is close to Spain, could she have been a Spaniard? Regardless, the name Cedric could have been his father’s family name or a name the mother liked because of literature or a person known to her.

      I read alot of romance novels as a teen and thought i’d name my son… Seth or Steele! Hysterical to me now. When the time came, much later mind you, I named my beautiful boy Justin Zane.

  62. nancy says:

    FYI There are two Nancy’s on the board. I use the little caps and don’t post often. The new Nancy usues the big caps for the letter N. BTW She is a much better poster than me. She has the wording and wit down great.

    • Noelle says:

      Hello love,
      I know there’s a new blog but just wanted to let you know that I read your post and know WHO you are! 😉
      No one would forget you..you smacked my hand the other day…well deserved on some levels…. 😉
      Just wanted to acknowledge you.

  63. error404 says:

    LOL! article in LA times calls Adrienne and Paul a younger richer version of George Costanza’s parents!

  64. Allison says:

    Coming a bit late to the party but had a few thoughts.

    Ok call me cynical but I did not buy Cedric’s story. He strikes me as a grifter. I found his story to be inconsistent on a few counts. He had such love for his mother that he slept at her side to protect her and yet when she abandons him, it does not occur to him that perhaps she had met foul play. I don’t know. Would you not as a child want to believe something must have happened to your Mother rather than assuming she left you to wander the streets. That point just struck me as incongruent. However I do firmly feel Lisa has real afffection for him and has sincerely set out to make his life better.

    Camille is so transparent and derives her power and self-esteem from her physical appearance. She sets out to possess other womens’ men. I think it is a game in her mind. She is so shallow. She has done this all season, starting w/the dancing game to constantly being filmed in a bikini w/the men to lear at her. She gets off more on the womens’ reaction verses the mens.

  65. Melanie says:

    Camille Grammer wins the “Nicole Kidman-Isabella-Connor” Award for never having her kids with her or around her at any time.

    As a mother you know that when you’re in the kitchen, your kids are in the kitchen. But not Camille! At no time are her kids around her!

    The one scene in her NY Apartment, her kids were actually around her for once, with Kelsey, and she complained that the apartment was too small! It was too small because her kids actually were in the same room as her! She couldn’t stand it!

    • BessiB says:

      Nicole Kidman’s situation is different. She had those kids with her all the time before Tom divorced her. In a Scientology divorce, Scientology gets the kids.

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