I Hate Jill Zarin Tabatha’s Salon Takeover Jan 11, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin Guest Blog – Tabatha’s Salon Takeover Jan 11, 2010

Thank you to Quincy IL for this great guest blog of Tabatha’s Salon Takeover.

I wish I had a dollar for every time Tabatha said that this salon owner had “No balls” or said, “he needs to step up”. I’d be a rich woman. Lynn~

Tabatha Salon Takeover Week Five

Tabatha visits Avanti Salon on Newbury Street in Boston, Ma. This is a high end district of Boston which can be compared to Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills or Fifth Ave in NYC. Alex, the owner, had called Tabatha for help. Tabatha calls Alex on a cell phone and asks him to come outside with the keys to the Salon. Alex tells Tabatha that he does not want to go to work every day. Tabatha asks Alex about the status of the salon’s finances and he does not know what their debt is as Betty, the manager of twenty years takes care of this. Tabatha does not like this. The debt is somewhere between $50,000 to $60,000 and it is a daily struggle to pay the bills. No one has ever been fired from the salon.


Tabatha’s staff has mounted a camera on the ceiling of the salon and for one week they have been monitoring the staff without their knowledge.

Janida, a stylist, is sharing her clubbing experiences with fellow stylists. She was an hour late because she did not want to come to work drunk. She has the same clothing on that she wore the day before.

The camera shows Pricilla, a stylist, ordering her client to hand her pieces of foil for a color treatment with a mean tone of voice. Tabatha takes the key, she is going to clean up the management, shake up the staff, and turn this salon around in one week. One of the stylists is eating and her food is dripping out of her mouth. She is using a roll of toilet paper to wipe her face in full view of clients.


The assistants are not working. When Tabatha shows the evidence of salon’s staff disarray, Alex laughs. Tabatha has never met “a more mealy mouthed, wishy washy manager before.” During a timed color treatment Rob, the assistant goes to the bank with the timer. He does not inform the stylist, Rob. When Tabatha points this out, Alex tells the assistant to apologize to the stylist, but the assistant runs down a stairway and the camera follows him as he disappears into a crowd on the street. Tabatha is shocked at this behavior. Tabatha blames Alex for the behavior of his employees. She calls Alex, “sad and pathetic.” She then states that “the staff clearly believe that Alex is a pussy.”


Tabatha greets the happy and exited staff, but within moments the mood changes. She tells them that she has cancelled all of their appointment for the next week. Tabatha states that the staff will “Play by my rules and I will enforce them.” Janida tells us that she is still drunk from last night. Rob the assistant is asked to apologize to Rob, the stylist, and they hug. Tabatha does not need “a Kumbaya moment.”

The shelves are filthy so Tabatha orders the assistant to start cleaning. They tell her that Alex is a great boss because they do not have to do anything. Laura, an assistant confesses in an interview that, “We know we aren’t doing what we are supposed to do.” The washer and dryer are broken. Janida’s brushes are full of hair from the previous day. She says that she usually cleans them between clients. The staff is ordered to be in at 9AM tomorrow. No one is to be late.

The staff of “Boston Magazine,” all women and quite young, which creates a “Best of Boston” list of businesses each year will be the clients of Avanti and receive the Avanti experience. Rob, the stylist is a nervous mess. Alex, the manager has difficulties with his hair cut for the Boston Magazine manager, but Tabatha makes sure it is correct herself. Tabatha thinks Janida’s hair cut is perfect and it is extremely rare that this happens. It inspires Janida. Tabatha seems impressed which is rare too. Tabatha gives a lesson on how to use foil for color on mannequins to the assistants. Rob, the assistant seems to enjoy the experience even though he is a rough Boston kind of guy. Pricilla does a poor job. Tabatha stops her from giving the customer a red color that would not work for the customer. The staff of “Boston Magazine” says that they would return to the salon so the experience was good.

The Team

Tabatha takes the entire salon staff to a Harvard rowing team training session. They observe the Harvard team in the water working perfectly together commanded by a Coxswain who shouts the orders to the team. She has the salon staff sit in their practice boat while she teaches Alex how to shout orders and make the team work as one. Every one seems to understand the meaning of the lesson.

Tabatha meets with Alex, the owner, and Betty, the manager. Betty has tears as she explains the day to day issues with paying the bills. Tabatha tells Alex that “It’s your fucking salon.” Alex goes over the books with Betty who seems relieved that Alex is taking on some responsibility.

Tabatha takes the staff to a salon called, Bradley and Diegle, which has been number one on the “Boston Magazine” list for the past three years. They have a great experience. Pricilla said that she had never been so pampered before as she has her hair colored with foils. Tabatha asks the stylist if she makes the client hold her foils and she says that “the client shouldn’t have to work for her color.” The assistants received a lesson in how to shampoo and keep the shampoo room clean. Janida tells us that “I am such a mess.” She seems to want to change her life. Tabatha is unsure if Alex will really take control.


The Salon is sparkling clean, The walls are an off white with a splash of chartreuse There is a staff dining area away from the eyes of the clients. They are very happy. There is a new washer and dryer. The entire facility is upgraded. Janida looks great. She has stayed home at night and not gotten drunk. The staff loves the new salon.

Clients come into the salon and the staff is working together under the direction of Tabatha. She is still trying to turn Alex into the coxswain of his Boston salon. Tabatha tells Pricilla that there are no divas in a salon and that she has to work with her assistants to give the client a great experience. Pricilla asks Rob, the assistant to wash her client’s hair and he feels great because that has never happened before. Tabatha watches over the staff on the final day and believes that everyone has improved. She again tells Alex and us that a ship needs a captain. Alex says he will make the change. The key is staff training. Tabatha singles out Pricilla to tell her that “All this week is was ALL about you.” Janida says, “Tabatha’s clothes are amazing.” Janida smiles and says, “I love her.”

Final Analysis

Tabatha reminds Alex that he has to be in charge and give him the keys. She tells them that she may return and if Janida does well, Tabatha will take her shopping. Janida is in heaven and she wants to change.

6 Weeks Check Up

Tabatha returns. Alex seems to have taken over and the salon appears to be busier. Pricilla is away at a hotel helping a wedding party prepare. Janida is dry and sober. She really turned her life around. Janida is rewarded with a $2,000 shopping spree with Tabatha at a high end store. It seems this Salon Takeover was a success. Tabatha looked happy shopping The new clothes looked great on Janida.

Great Job Quincy!! Thanks for another fab blog! Don’t forget to check out my latest on Yahoo:

An Open Letter to Andy Cohen @ http://look.ac/fMz9vi

Until Next Time…


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213 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Tabatha’s Salon Takeover Jan 11, 2010

  1. MickeyMouth says:

    Thanks for the guest blog Quincy. So glad you are back and feeling better.

    • TLM says:

      I agree with the “ball talk.” I’m tired of it.

      I thought the exercise with the rowing would be a waste of time, but it was phenomenal how what was going on in the salon was EXACTLY what happened in that boat. People doing their own thing. People confused by directions. Whereas when the coxswain shouted, that group was like a well-oiled machine.

      Never in my life did I think that stylist who sounded like a poster child for A.A. would do the great consultation and cut she did. I thought it was nice T took her shopping, but wondered if the other stylists were pissed off, thinking, why does SHE get $2000 of clothes and we get nothing? Maybe Tabatha had a girl crush?

      I went to school in Boston, and Newbury St. was always fun. I’m sorry I didn’t spend more time there. I was more likely to be rooting through the sale racks at Lord & Taylor or the tables at Filene’s Basement. 🙂

  2. boston02127 says:

    Great recap. Thanks Quincy.

    • quincyil says:

      I like following Tabatha across the nation cleaning up salons. Microbiologists love clean salons, clean restaurant kitchens, clean school kitchens, clean public bathrooms, clean everything…. It makes it easier to survive our germophobia and OCD issues.

  3. error404 says:

    thanks for the recap!

    I missed it last night. Nice to see at least one salon is taking the advice they went out of their way to ask for. There was a string of failures there for a while, and it was getting a little depressing.

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  6. HD says:

    I missed it last night. That was nice for Tabatha to take Janida on a shopping spree.

    • quincyil says:

      The young woman really changed her life and that is not easy. She was a great stylist too. I think she can have a fantastic career.

  7. Cusi77 says:

    Great recap Quincy!

    Since you started blogging I started watching it, your recaps are soooo good that made me willing to watch. I like Tabatha ever since! BTW she reminds me my older sister.lol.

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    How many ? Quincy’s & my years on earth. Hummm we do deserve defference sometimes I hope.
    Quincy I can’t live with out you and I have suffered toooooooo
    many years with out you ! ! !
    I am sooooooo glad you are back.
    Please don’t be away so long again !

  9. HD says:

    On the last blog WSL mentioned going to Teresa’s event which seemed boring. I can’t believe people really paid their hard earned money to go listen to anything that she had to say. You really took one for the team!

    • Cusi77 says:

      HD_ What surprises me the most is TG having the nerve to talk about “having everything”… I know she has been working hard promoting her books (she did not wrote… but giving her the benefit of the doubt) but being under water 10 plus millions, with what authority she knows how to have everything without stiffing people?

  10. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Great blog Quincy. So wonderful to see you’re feeling better!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      This may sound mean but I feel sorry for that baby. Zoe has always struck me as a woman who totally lacks a maternal instinct. Anyway – I hope they are happy and she has a successful and safe birth and healthy baby.

      • buffywood says:

        I think sometimes that is hard to judge. My mother really lacked that natural maternal instinct and I believe people had the same concern regarding me. I remember when someone first saw me pregnant and said “You’re going to be a mother?” in a clearly shocked tone. Nice huh? I was very business driven and people just didn’t see me that way. You will have to trust me when I say that instint kicked in 100%.

    • TLM says:

      I wonder what her diet has been like for 7 months — doesn’t she only drink Starbucks? I think if Rachel has half a grapefruit, she thinks she’s binge eating.

      I’m assuming coffee was verboten or severely limited during her pregnancy, and that can’t have been fun to be around. Just look at Rodger in that photo. He looks like he’s been through the war, and she looks pissed off.

  11. boston02127 says:

    Candles & battereis–check, food–check, cat & dog food–check, books–check, cellphone charging–check. Nor’easter come & get me.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Hoping you won’t need the candles & batteries!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Glad you are prepared! Stay safe and ride it out.

      • vilzvet says:

        We are going to get a ton it seems. Could be 15 inches. All prepared and stew is cooking in the slow cooker. We survived the CT storm of last Friday in a car so this will seem like a piece of cake!

    • twoile says:

      @B seems as though you r correct in ur prep…expect 12″ 4 city eeee gad! There won’t b much moving around. Put ur feet up grab a blanket, read a good book enjoy:0)

  12. Cusi77 says:

    OT- I would like to share with you what is going on in my life.

    Nevada has a New Governor. I was invited to borrow a silver bracelet and earrings for The First Lady of Nevada, Katleen Sandoval, to wear in her Inaugural Ball by the end of January (I am not sure if it will be the 28th here in Las Vegas or the 29th in Reno) I was contacted by The Community College of Southern Nevada’s Art Dept.

    It is not sure yet that she will wear my pieces, but I am excited I was chosen with another two artists to design Silver pieces for Mrs. Sandoval, done that “NEVADA” is the Silver State, makes sense.

  13. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thank you Quincy. Tabitha is an interesting person and her show on Bravo has become one of my favorites – reality with a reason! While the ladies at my local saloon can dish on the housewives, they love Tabitha and are amazed at the state of the salons she tackles!

    • quincyillinois says:

      My favorite salon designers love Tabatha, but they too say that their salons would never get that filthy. The assistants were being taught how to color hair too. In IL, you have to have a license and education from an accredited school to color. I was shocked why Tabatha was teaching those employee to do that job. Our stylists are required to have continuing education credits too. They are professionals. Tabatha was supposed to go to an IL salon, but they are going to get in a lot of trouble if they are shown disobeying the laws.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Didn’t she already do an IL salon? My stylists were both sickened by the filth (and attitudes) Tabitha finds too. They recently fired their assistant because she didn’t like doing shampoo or sweeping (she loved reading all the magazines)! lol

        • quincyil says:

          Not yet, I just checked. There was an commercial for one in IL, but it seems the commercials on Bravo are often not for the next week on the shows that I guest blog for here. I think they like to hype certain shows that are going to get higher ratings and trick us into watching.

          What is it with Bravo and timelines? The violate the laws of physics and time when it comes to the RH all of the time. DC was a total fabrication because of their editing and wanting to move the Polo event closer to the hearings in DC. I think they have done it in other series too.

          I think mid way throught the filming, editors come together with a white board and see the direction the shows are going. That is why we heard some moaning from Bravo’s headquarters and their request for Bethenny to be in some of the NYC shows. I bet they have filmed for Bethenny’s show and it’s not that hard to use some of that film in NYC. If she shows up in NYC, she will be getting a great salary for allowing that. As Bethenny said on WWHL, I came to Bravo to become rich.

          • Dawn says:

            I watched an episode last week (rerun from ’08) in which she visited a Chicago salon in BoysTown.

            • quincyil says:

              I think the commercial I saw was from some small town, not Chicago, so there may be one on IL sometimes this season also.

        • kmuellfa says:

          last season she did 2- ChicagoMale and Earth Sun Moon

  14. Any one here anything about teresa at the Annex last night? Who was the “special guest”? I guessed Janice Dickinson was it? I just guessed b/c she made a post a couple months ago on her blog that she & her were teaming up on something. Why isn’t that Naught Mice Rob person blogging about it either? Someone tell me something plz. I can’t take it.

  15. she has her own blog or blogged here? Plz tell me I wanna hear about teresa ? last blog where BTW?

  16. Last blog Lynn did was yesterday on Atlanta. Can someone PLEASE PLEASE tell me where to find WSL post. Is it here on Lynn’s? Is it on her blog that i didnt know she had?
    I’m dying. Plz someone tell me. I’m begging.

  17. I’m crying in frustration. I looked at the “last blog” which I’m assuming is Lynn’s right? I don’t see it. UUHH

  18. I’m in tears. Seriously, I’m limited for time. Usually there are 100’s of ppl on here talking about what ever.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Calm down sweetness – WSL posted on Lynn’s blog from yesterday. It is at the bottom of the page. Happy readying!

  19. AZ Girl says:

    @cuzi-do you have a website with your work displayed?

  20. boston02127 says:

    @justtomakeulaugh From last blog.
    By WSL—
    Ok, I wish I had more excitement to report ! An ugly, small basement room at the Hilton Hotel welcomed Tree.
    Tree was on time. Wore a black one shoulder ,spandex, very short dress;similar to the white one kyle’s teen daughter wore at the white party & was told to pull down. Her figure was beautiful. Her arms had a slight muscle & were to die for. It was 30degrees outside but she wore no stockings. Her skin was a little better than orange. Her shoes were satin 5″ w/bows & an open toe on a 1″ platform. TLD would approve. She sat on a tall stool and fidgeted w/ her feet the entire time.
    Rob Shuter has crossed eyes that are 10xs more crossed than Andys’. They sat side by side on a platform 5″ off the floor. There was no surprise guest. Tree announced that she was not paid for the event & drove in from NJ at her own expense.
    There were 8 rows w/12 seats across. I was near the front. The audience was mostly 20+ year olds who want to be successful,maybe b a reality star & write a book. The crowd love, love, loves Tree. Not one question from the attendees even hinted at anything negative. There were no questions about the bankruptcy.
    For the 1st hour+ Rob asked
    questions. Tree works hard to build fans through twitter and Facebook. She has never returned a negative tweet with a negative response. She said u should not b a reality star if u have thin skin. Tree said Tore Spelling thanks the negative hecklers & says they grow her fan base. She loves the Kardashians and wants her girls to grow up like them. Many questions were about next season & could not be answered. She did say Dina was getting her own cooking show. Tree said she did nor regret anything that has happened and can walk around with her head up high. She was asked how do u get all girls & she said by having sex every day which is what Jo requires. She said she is done but Jo is not.
    She volunteered that they still have their beach house and that the big house is not in fore closure.
    She only tilts her head in pictures. She mentioned that Jill called her last night to wish her luck at the Annex evening & they talked for 1/2 hour.
    Rob pointed out she came across as a ditz & asked if she really is or was she acting. She reaffirmed her opening statements that She was herself on the show and just like she is tonight.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Teresa sees her world through her own rose colored glasses – reality and responsibility has nothing to do with it! At the moment she is living proof that you can have it all just as long as you have no morals or consideration of others. Eventually her little world will come tumbling down and she will believe she is a victim of other’s cruelty. I truly admire WSL for sitting through that session because I could not and would not!

  21. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Tabitha did a takeover of the RHNJ favorite salon?

    • quincyil says:

      I would absolutely love that. I don’t think they would do it though. You have to be in bad shape to get on that show. The salon that the NJ girls visit every day seems to be making money.

      I know long hair is work because I could sit on my hair for years, but how hard is it to lean over and blow it out upside down, then use one of the new fangled ceramic irons and stick it in big rollers. I do that every day for work.

      • California35 says:

        I have been turn away (by someone who was nice and cut my friend’s hair) because I have long hair. I had noticed on another salon when a person who I knew and was always nice to me, alsto turn me to one of her employers to cut my hair. I didn’t think much about it until the other lady turned me down and explained why. She sais she hated cuting long hair, that she is just not into that at all. In her defense I wasn’t there to cut my hair, I was only there with my girl friend and I had planed to make an appointment for another time. Of course once she said that I didn’t try.
        I don’t cut my hair very often, in fact it is time for a trim, but when I like having someone I like and trust to cut it. In the past everyone who cut it, cut too much. They would make it look so nice and clean, so I never complained… I do have someone now that doesn’t cut too much, but still gives it a nice style. I have very long layers 🙂

  22. California35 says:

    Quincy – Great Recap! I missed it last night, but will watch it later.

    Cusi77 – Great news about your jewlry! Will you share pictures later?

    About Teresa, is it me or is someone else still wondering about her “anger” issues. Besides all the other stuff she does, spend $, brag, spoils her daughters, talks about sex, etc, etc, etc. I can’t forget the two times she had to be hold back – once on the fliping table episode – She was out of control and Joe had to hold her and even graved her neck to calm her down, then she acted so calm. Later on the reunion, when Caroline hold her also. Both times (or at least at the reunion) she was tense and growling. This was discussed before, but last night after reading WSL recap of the Anex class I began thinking about it. I wonder if she has a medical condition, a real one. She gets away with things, and I wonder some times if it is because people around her know about her anger or illness so they try to let her be, to avoid stressing her.

    Any thought?

  23. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s tweet: @simonvankempen is your family safe? Let’s me know how to help.

    I think Jill’s talking about the snowstorm. I wonder if Simon & Alex laugh at this or are scared at Jill’s motives.

    • TLM says:

      “Is your family safe?” WTF??

      • quincyil says:

        If you remember, Jill’s post here, she mentioned making amends with Simon.

        So… let’s channel. Jill…. I feel a thought…. It’s snowing so it’s a little harder to read her mind from IL, but I think I am tapping in…..

        Jill: “Let me say something caring about Simon’s family in Australia to make up for the three years of mistreating his NYC/Brooklyn family. Ah…tweet sent… Now, we are even.”

        • TLM says:

          Ohhh didn’t connect that she was talking about Australia. And I just wrote to a friend there! I think I forgot Simon was from there since he sounds British to my ear rather than Aussie. I actually thought Jill was asking him about the snow in Brooklyn and I really thought she had lost it. Why the F would Jill ask him that question in a tweet? Why wouldn’t she send him a personal email? What a wack job.

    • AZ Girl says:

      I think Jill is tweeting about the tsunami that hit Australia today

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Oh dear- this is the last thing they need after the previous devastation. I just read that 4 of the dead are children, some of them swept away from their mothers arms.

        I can’t even begin to imagine the feeling of having your child torn from you while you are fighting to save both your lifes.

    • kbinldo says:

      It’s flooding massively in Queensland. I’ve been to Australia when they said it was “flooding,” but it was nothing like the pics I’ve seen today!

      • vilzvet says:

        Isn’t it summer there now? They are on an opposite schedule to us. I never heard of flooding there! I thought Australia was a very dry place.

        • TLM says:

          I think it is very arid in the outback, or inland in Australia, most of which is uninhabitable. Unfortunately all of Australia’s 6 major cities are coastal.

  24. nancy says:

    My hair is waist length and very thick. I really appreciate my hair dresser that I have had for many years. There are not a lot of hairdressers that like to deal with really long and thick hair. When my stylist dies my hair I can be in her shop for three plus hours. She tells me my hair is getting thicker with each passing year. LOL

    • quincyil says:

      Sounds gorgeous. I think you are a lucky person.

      • nancy says:

        She says I am but sometimes my hair can get so tangled. It takes for ever to dry and even more time to use a wide comb to untangle. Good to see you back, Quincy. Hope you are feeling better.

    • California35 says:

      Wow – sounds like you have very nice hair 🙂 My hair is not thick, but very long and a bit wavy. I add the layers so that it has some body, otherwise it is too flat and it doesn’t look good with my round face 😛

      All of my cousins have shor hair becasue they DO have thick hair, and they say it is too havy for them to have it long. It doesn’t seem to be a problem for you.

  25. vilzvet says:

    Was on imdb and see that Kyle turns 42 today. I didn’t know she appeared in a few “ER” episodes as a nurse, also was in an episode of “BH 90210”. I may have to check them out on Blockbuster for kicks. I do remember her on “Little House”.

  26. AZ Girl says:

    QuincyIl–take your meds tonight for MM. Bat Shit Crazy client Stacy is back on MM. Yikes!!! Should be interesting.

    • quincyil says:

      It’s the finale. I am throwing a party tomorrow and every one is invited.

      Patti said that her stay in NYC is almost over. I don’t know what that indicates specifically, but she may have already returned to LA.

      • California35 says:

        I’m up for the party tomorrow 🙂 with some Skinny Margaritas and a handfull of snacks 🙂

  27. WSL says:

    How long does a cat stay on a hot tin roof ?
    Elizabeth Taylor :
    Looooong as she can !

    Since we are doing repeats,
    I prefer an original.

    had a nightmare last night ! I dreamed I was at NJ zoo and the apes and gorillas broke out of their cages and scared all the visitors w/in an inch of their lives. Women & and children cried out in fear. One particularly short ape flipped a table in the dining area and frightened all the innocent children to tears.The short ape jumped up & down ; frightened women threw hair ornaments & jewlery at her. The ape stopped & put the items on and jumped up and down w/glee & scratched her but & smiled. The zoo keepers finally filled the cages w/bananas & the harry,scary apes & gorillas ran back into their cages and were so excited they ate the peels too. It seemed the caged animals really liked being caged and displayed after all. The zoo got so much press attention that the zoo attendance tripled after more secure locks were installed. The zoo got a book contract. All the apes were on Good morning America and wore hair ornaments. The apes were all cleaned up and bathed. There became a national following of the apes.
    The moral of the story is
    Sneak out,scare the hell out of children,get hair ornaments, get more bananas,live in a large cage,write a book,go on the Today Show,start a fan club and more people will visit the zoo !
    I woke up in a cold sweat ! I turned on my favorite channel and calmed down by watching the BHHW,
    Now that’s a lifestyle to dream about ! None of them would ever visit a NJ zoo !

  28. WSL says:

    I loved ur observations about interviewing. U r so right on. This world has gone to the trash & is teaaching people who want/need a job to act like idiots because certain realityHos set such poor examples of what success is. If I get a flipped table when interviewing & yells of u r jealous; I am calling Belview hospital !

  29. WSL says:

    I loved ur observations about interviewing. U r so right on. This world has gone to the trash & is teaching people who want/need a job to act like idiots because certain realityhos set such poor examples of what success is. If I get a flipped table when interviewing & yells of u r jealous; I am calling Belview hospital !

  30. WSL says:

    On 2nd thought. Maybe I should call Andy 1st. He might want to hire them
    The Wall Streeters With OUT Jobs show.

  31. WindyCityWondering says:

    Need some education – what is Stacy’s claim to fame on Matchmaker? Must have missed it and would love the backstory please.

    • quincyil says:

      She was on a few weeks back. She and the other millionairess (an international DJ) chose the same gorgeous model/sometimes actor for a date. Stacies is a divorced mother from NJ who is a model, loves to bake food that she does not eat, is a hostess, and aspires to be an actress. She is ready for love, but in the minisub on the island trip, she acted a bit oxygen deprived.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Thanks for the 411 – what went down that caused Patty to go nuts on her? I mean a lie detector test? Demands for an apology? This seems over manufactured to me! I know – watch and see!! lol

      • quincyil says:

        I don’t know, but I will watch at 8 central.

        Patti, Dustin and Rachel have really clicked this season. I imagine they will dump the gorgeous intern, Andrea, now.

        Patti was so mean to her that you wondered why she stayed on national tv for a whole season.

  32. kbinldo says:

    Great recap as always, Quincy!! Glad to see you on the blog!

    Cusi, many congratulations! I do hope your jewelry is selected! Let us see pics when you can!

  33. klmh says:

    This is a fantastic fun site for you to put pictures of yourself/family into different situations, billboards, mugs, different locations, so many choices. I posted last night, but it was slammed with lots of viewers and some were unable to open it. Its open now.

    Attn: Buffywood and Kat.


  34. California35 says:

    In California??!!!

    Ramona Singer
    Flying with now with Sonja and Alex taking a later flight we are going to the TCA. Tv critic ? in pasadena calif

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      This is an article about their trip to Los Angeles.

      When it comes to the Real Housewives of New York City the histronics just never seem to stop, even when the cameras aren’t rolling.

      RadarOnline.com has learned that the ladies are currently jetting their way to Los Angeles, and in true Housewives fashion, the trip has already encountered more than it’s fair share of melodrama and tantrums.

      “Even before they got on the plane the cast members were throwing tantrums and creating drama,” a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com. “They were due to be leaving Wednesday morning but at the last minute their flights were changed and they were told they had to fly at 8pm tonight.

      “To say that the ladies weren’t happy would be somewhat of an understatement! In fact more than a couple of them had complete meltdowns, they were thrown into a complete tizzy.

      “Ramona was particularly vocal, claiming that she is currently an emotional wreck and in no position to fly – apparently she claims she has ‘no energy to be able to board a plane’ at this time. It’s like she was being ordered to compete in a triathlon not just hop on the red eye!

      “Anyone would think you were dealing with the world’s most elite actresses rather than some reality TV stars – when it comes to creating a diva scene these ladies really are professionals in the field.”

      The reality show is always guaranteed to be jam packed full of catfights, tears and emotional outbursts and it seems the upcoming season four of the hit Bravo show will be no exception to the rule!

      The Housewives are heading to LA to promote the show, which RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively will premiere the week of February 14.

      In addition, they will be spilling some secrets and no doubt creating yet more drama as they participate in the Television Critics Association Press Tour in Pasadena.


  35. WSL says:

    Te Heee
    “I think Kim’s rear end became famous before her face did.”

  36. klmh says:


    What is your take on Teresa? Is she someone you would expect to be able to read a legal document? Do you think she is intelligent? Could you give us an opinion on her?
    Still waiting to hear about her jewelry…

  37. HD says:

    I’m not rich and fancy so I am sure this is an expensive piece of jewelry…what is that necklace Patti is wearing with the letters on it? (At least it looks like letters to me) She has had it on in two shows now.
    What are the letters for, a designer or something?

  38. WSL says:

    Good questions. She said it took her 11months to sign on to the Ho
    Wives. She said she finally signed ,which included signing to give permission for the girls. She said Jo had to sign his own contract. I concurred from the way she told us that she read her contract.
    My friend RosePower thought she was very inarticulate. We all agreed when she 1st said prostitution whore that she was pretty stupid. Now that phrase is part of culture. I think I have gotten used to her the same way I got used to hip hop speak & no longer judge it.
    I think her determination to get what she wants is her driving force coupled with that she thinks she is irresistible. Since her parents “just got off the boat”,I think she was the center of her families universe. That
    does not make her smart but It
    Has given her a blind confidence and assurance that she is adored. Failure means just do it again & never admit a failure. The lack of acknowledging reality is a sign of a personality disorder. All that being said she is cute, sexy,confident,funny and personable. See said don’t believe what u read in the press. Does that include court records ?
    I am sure nobody in the room has done the legal background digging that all LynnFam has seen due to the work of HadEnough &
    Several other folks that have done awesome work. So “don’t believe what u read” to LynnFam is like, who has a pie to throw in her face.
    I am afraid if I met Tree w/o the benefit of LynnFam research ,her personality disorder,would fool me & I hate knowing that. I am usually a pretty good judge of character but she reminds me of an employee who has the same disorder.
    What I can say is show me a lack of ethics just one time & all ties are severed.The problem is catching the deceit & being able to document it. Believe it or not it is very hard to prove fraud because u must also intent to defraud. The laws need to be changed. Many of the Madoff cases will not be won for this reason.
    Sorry for the rant. But she is very likable.

    • klmh says:

      I appreciate you taking the time to write a very well written and concise post of Teresa. Her sense of self is fed by the people she has around her, but there may be an underlying mental problem as well. So many cant see the forest for the trees, if you know what I mean. Some seem to live in a world of their making.
      I thought it was interesting that you mentioned possibly being fooled by her without the information you have learned here and in your own investigation of the bankruptcy situation. She is obviously a charmer and has been successful at it for some time.
      Thanks so much for the birds eye view of her. Fun, fun!

    • Kat says:

      Sociopaths are often charming. They learn it.

      • LilyLynn says:

        Ha! that is what I was thinking too – and kind of explains how Carolina and Dina seemed taken in and charmed by her too (something I could never understand.) That time she packed 8 suitcases for that weekend trip with them? “That’s just Teresa” they giggled. Uggg, not cute.

    • Sparkles says:

      An interesting assessment. Thanks for sharing.

    • California35 says:

      It shows more than you do pay attention and don’t just hate her, therefore you will only mention negative things about her. You do look at her with open minded eyes.

      I will say that on the first season, I thought she was a bit ….silly or dumb …but harmless. So even if she said something not nice, I would think “oh she is silly” oh Theresa”. Like Caroline says :-P. It is when we get to know more about her and (also like Caroline did) we will get annoyed and sick by her nonsense, attention grabber, being self center, her bragging, and her explosions.

  39. Adgirl says:

    I am half way through watching the latest MM.
    Why is it OK for Patti to constantly refer to the female (whatever her name is) as having ADD??
    I am just wondering .. my take is some people my be inpatient, maybe because they are self centered, and they are quickly bored.. but ADD?

    • Kat says:

      ADD is about the inability to focus and says little about a person and nothing of their character. Patty is shallow and stupid.

  40. WSL says:

    She had on what looked like a 4ct diamond ring. No earrings. Her hair was VERY straight & u couldn’t see her ears. She had the bangs hair do.
    She had a cute bracelet w/one small charm on it. It was either a flat circle or a heart ,the size of a nickel. The bracelet
    Was tight & could have been a gift from her girls. I don’t think it was real. That being said it was very cute the way it dangled as she constantly moved her arms.
    Was that ur jewlery ?

    • klmh says:

      Just had to know if you thought what she had on was the real deal. I am in awe that the bankruptcy court didn’t review the tapes to see jewelry she didn’t declare. The diamond ring you mentioned, I believe, she had in the first season, before the bankruptcy happened, and there is no mention of it in their descriptions of assets.
      You have quite a memory. Do you have a photographic memory? My guess is yes…

    • klmh says:

      Thanks for the great description.

  41. WSL says:

    Fatty Stinker is an a$$hole.
    When my sis ta from NC asked her date about not paying child support that she uncovered on the web, Fatty says she’s not a gold digger but she was inappropriate about money issues. Gosh I hate that Pig !
    It wasn’t about $$$ it was about integrity,or the lack there of the Baby Daddy !

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Agree that it is about integrity – nonpayment of child support is serious. But I don’t think it was appropriate to ask that question on a first (not to mention televised) date!

  42. WSL says:

    The pink pig is a Judith Lieber bag & costs about $3000 !

  43. WSL says:

    I don’t think Tree cares about jewlery. U know how kids play w/a new toy & want a new one pretty quickly;I think she probably likes good fake jewlery so she can have lots & lots & lots. I would bet besides her 1 carrot starter engagement ring, she has always had cubic zarconium.
    Have u guys seen the QVC Judith Ripka collection. The fake is an exact copy of the many thousands of $$ found in the Madison Ave Store. Ramonas stuff,I am told is pretty & I plan to see it soon.
    (I need jewlery like a hole in the head & I am just looking,not buying. The age of EXCESS is OVER sharing & giving is in ! !

    • klmh says:

      She does have some big jewelry. I know she wanted big diamond or something for her 10th anniversary, and she seemed to love diamonds while filming the first season. I know Jo supposedly ended giving her a yellow sapphire, but Im not sure it wasn’t fake as well. You’re right, there are some fabulous looking fakes out there.
      I keep telling my husband Im through with jewelry and some day he might believe me, I suppose, maybe as he disperses of my ashes.

      • justanothermary says:

        The only jewelry I truly love are the pieces that have been in my family for many years. Most are antique and very intricate. They had belonged to my great grandmother and passed down through the family. I truly would not spend a lot of money on any jewelry. However, I do believe that Teresa wants only the best and that she and Juice have had many many real pieces.

        • klmh says:

          There are a few pieces that I inherited as well, and they are my favorites. Nice to pass to family members too.

  44. WSL says:

    Rob of Popeater said the joo dice lecture was sold out. It wasn’t, they just used the smallest room possible at the Hilton. I guarantee, if 50 more had wanted to come, they would have moved to a larger room !

    • justanothermary says:

      The problem being that they had to make Tree think it was sold out. I believe she is very easily manipulated when people are telling her what she wants to hear so it wasn’t hard. Otherwise she would have to come up with some dilusion herself and I really don’t believe she’s that creative.

      • klmh says:

        Like minds Mary. I simply don’t think she is that smart and is easily manipulated by others she trusts.

  45. Sparkles says:

    Can someone please explain to me how Teresa not only has her McMansion but also a beach house while filing for bankruptcy? I understand that a person gets to keep their primary residence but I do not understand the justification for allowing a vacation home.

    I have sympathy for most people who file for bankruptcy, as it is often due to illness and medical bills, and folks like that need to keep a roof over their heads. But people like the Giudices are abusing the system.

    Maybe the series should be called Real Bankrupt Housewives. We keep seeing these people spend money they don’t have — showing off — and then run to the bankruptcy court. No accountability. This needs to be more stigmatized by society, not rewarded by fame.

    • California35 says:

      That is not fair to all those who loose their homes if in similar situation. Do you guys think that if they keep paying their home, the bank wont take it from them. At the same time, since they still don’t own it their collectors can’t take the homes either. OR maybe neither home is under their names.

    • klmh says:

      Its interesting, because it tells us they the 10,000 or so bucks to pay their monthly mortgage. I hope to see some information about who has been supplying them with that amount of money monthly for a while. They would have to pay big bucks on taxes although maybe not. Just thought about that. They could claim each member of the family (6) with a gift tax of 13,000 so thats almost 8 months rent. I hope they can dig to find their hidden assets.

      • It's Hot In Texas says:

        I read somewhere that she makes $3,00.00 for each appearance/book signing. And she does a lot of them. If she did not get paid for her Learning Annex appearance, where did the money go?

  46. UnderMyWheels says:

    Did anyone else see Johnny Weir on the Today Show on Monday? He was promoting his new book and said a few things that were odd.

    First, he was talking about how he used to show horses before he started skating. So I looked it up..he showed his hunter pony, an Arab cross named My Blue Shadow in the 90’s that I think they bought from a friend of mine. He said that he was “So good, I was on a National team.”

    What?! What team would that be?? There is no “team” for pony hunter riders. Complete BS.

    He was asked about Evan Lysacek as there is a photo of them smiling together in his book. He said he wasn’t jealous of Evan, but jealous of his wins. He said he put the photo in there as a joke. Huh?

    He is his own biggest fan. Very easy to see why Johnny and Jill are buddies.

    • error404 says:

      These two guys just love the sound of their own voices. Evan and Johnny are rivals from their days as junior skaters, and the press tried to make a story out of it, so of course the two media-whores wouldn’t let it go. Someone would ask them about the weather and somehow they’d turn it into a conversation about the other skater. It got to be like “So Johnny, how is training in CT going?” and he’d answer “Well, I train better than Evan does in CA, but I’m not jealous of him, I wish I could be brave enough to be seen in public with that awful hair!” and vice versa. For years, on skating boards, all public statements from the two would be met with cries of “Oh, just shut up and skate already!”

  47. WSL says:

    U started a long thread. I hope u liked it.
    I don’t have a blog. Why compete w/existing perfection from Lynn to the Lynn babies ?
    Did u know that we r the only 2 people on the board who don’t buy Miss B’s act.
    I first got my radar up when she was critical of Alex for her nude pictures & said she on the reunion that she would never be seen in a play boy & only a tasteful shot like Peta. Meantime she did soft porn.
    I also herd she loves fur but loved the chance to b photographed nude for Peta more than her furs.
    On the cover of season one all the ladies except Alex have on furs. Those both cross my integrity land in the sand.


    • Kat says:

      I still like Bethenny. I can’t help it.

    • California35 says:

      I hear you WSL, but I do like Bethenny. I have seen things I don’t like on her also believe me, but but but… 🙂

    • California35 says:

      Oh wow! I never saw those pictures before.

    • klmh says:

      Nope, you and Lynn aren’t the only ones, but its nice to know I have company on this subject.

      • HD says:

        I also mentioned this at the other blog site Lynn had-about the nude pictures that came up at the reunion. (She did mention them briefly. I don’t think she was ever trying to keep it a secret.) Also I don’t think B has had a breast lift I think she had a boob job. Her boobs look fake. They look like two round balls under her skin because she is so skinny.

        WSL-You just brought to my attention the fur coat on that NYC cover. I hadn’t even thought about that.

        I think we can all safely say that Bethanny will do a lot of things for money. She saw an opportunity and ran with it. I don’t knock her for it but I am clear that her pants go on one leg at a time like everyone else…

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      On season one of the RHONYC reunion show, Andy Cohen asked all of the ladies if they would pose in Playboy. Bethenny said she wouldn’t because she had an endorsement with Pepperidge Farm. She also said that she didn’t think there was anything wrong with taking nude photos. I don’t know how that makes her a hypocrite. What am I missing?

      • klmh says:

        I think she is a great self promoter and don’t dislike her. I am just not a fan. Her wit is impressive, but she just keeps selling herself and does what she does to make the almighty dollar and thats fine with me. Just stop complaining. You set the agenda, just do it. She is an oversold product, jmo.

        • icantstandthetoxicity says:

          I was referring to the comments that WSL made about Bethenny and Playboy. I don’t think posting those links prove that she is a hypocrite, especially when she stated that she wouldn’t do Playboy because she has an endorsement with Pepperidge Farm. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has a clause in her contract stating the she can’t pose for Playboy.

          I actually agree with you, I think Bethenny does complain too much . I think that if she is going to take on a lot of projects at the same time, she needs to tone it down. The whining is a turn off.

  48. WSL says:

    Granted it’s 1am here but it’s only 12 in Chicago & 11 in Cal. So where is everybody ? I guess the reason u all have such pretty skin is that u get lots of sleep.

    • California35 says:

      I’m awake 😛 it is 10:30 here. I don’t want to go to sleep, it will mean that I will wake up, then go to work where I rather not be, so intend I’m watching funnies on tv. Cougar Town…

      How are you Mrs WSL? 🙂

  49. Kat says:

    I almost ran over a rodent today, at the last minute I swerved.
    Lucky little squirrel should have been cuisine for the scavengers.
    Next time… I hope I think before I react so the birds can feast.

    • California35 says:

      Almost run over a squirrel, but didn’t? Aaaww you are nice. I see those little guys all the time. For a second I thought you were talking about it because of Cougar Town 😛 the character kept accidentally killing animals and kept feeling so bad about it.

    • error404 says:

      I always swerve for animals, which drive MR 404 crazy. He’s convinced I’m going to kill us both just to save some diseased rodent, but I’m very careful. I almost tear up every time I see a carcass on the side of the road, big ole softie. I once had to run over a turtle that was already run over anyway, but it haunted me for weeks.

  50. Adgirl says:

    Meh. I don’t think that cheesy sapphic-topless-slasher movie Bethenny was in years ago was any secret. I think she has mentioned running around topless in the woods for the film several times.
    I’m more amused that her boobs are so droopy in it.

    • TLM says:

      I wish she would just admit she has implants. I don’t know why she would only say she had a breast lift. It’s so obvious she had implants and that they are too big for her body.

  51. WSL says:

    Adgirl she admitted she had a lift. But don’t u think she could have been supportive of Alex. Remember Ramona walked off the stage disgusted.

  52. justanothermary says:

    Personally, if I never saw or heard of Bethanny again I would be ok with it. I like her any all, but enough already.

    • error404 says:

      that’s funny, because I feel like I have to go out of my way to see her. I purposely watched WWHL and SWTS and read about her here, but somehow in my daily life she’s missing. Almost never see her on a mag cover or even a tabloid in the supermarket, and most of the people I know don’t seem to know who she is, or at least they never talk or joke about her. She’s very D-List IMHO.

      • vilzvet says:

        Very pretty ad in this week’s US Magazine of Skinnygirl margarita. Full page of Bethenny with the bottle.

        • HD says:

          For a while I was seeing her on a lot of magazine covers or in magazines and it seems to have died down. I guess because the whole Jill v. Bethanny thing is over since the show is over.

          @Error…none of my friends would have a clue who Bethanny was. My daughter knows her as “the black haired woman” and my husband always says, “you’re watching that again?” They have no clue!

  53. Salish says:

    Hey guys do any of you frequent tumblr? Anyhow I follow Melissa Beck, she used to be on The Real World New Orleans way back when. She posted this tidbit today.

    cute trivia

    The earth is still on its axis, people. I took Justin Beck and Daryl Palumbo of Glassjaw fame to Alex McCord and Simon VanKampen’s apartment in Brooklyn for a New Year’s Eve party co-hosted by my friends Brad and Christian. The previous sentence is a real sentence. It’s not a Choose Your Own Adventure sentence. Oh no, a real sentence. If you’re not on the page and you have to Google any of the names above, this post has already lost whatever potential it had to make you laugh chuckle on this late Monday afternoon. Also, you need to watch waaaaay more television.

    And those mother fuckers (JB + DP) mingled! Ain’t that some shit?

    Happy New Year (all late and stuff).
    Her husband’s name is Justin Beck and he’s the lead singer of an alternative band called glassjaw. I think its great they partied with Alex and Simon! haha

  54. Kat says:

    Morning everyone. Caffiene will kick in soon.

  55. boston02127 says:

    Good morning Kat. Morning everyone.

  56. boston02127 says:

    OMIB–I hope you’re at home. WBZ twitpic:

    • Golden Girl says:

      I wonder who the “hater” in the audience was. Do you think they read about one of us going and thats why she talk to Jill before she went on stage?

    • nancy says:

      Boston, I think Tree reads our board and knew our very own WSL was going to be there. Hence she knew there was a “hater” present. To Tree please note that WSL was very kind in reporting about you. She is a better woman than me.

      • vilzvet says:

        Heheh, she admits the Sizzle Tan ad was a mistake! Did she declare those earnings, hmmm. And odd that she says she’s considering tying her tubes “next season”…wouldn’t most of us say, “next year”?? She thinks in TV time now.

        • error404 says:

          no naive! She meant she was having her operation in front of Bravo cameras. How many housewives do we need to see pee on camera, or have their cookies waxed on camera with their daughter watching, before we accept that they’d all do anything, ANYTHING! for 15 more seconds of attention. 😛

  57. boston02127 says:

    Ramona Singer and LuAnn de Lesseps At War

  58. butterisafruit says:

    Morning…..Happy Blizzard Day!

    • error404 says:

      I think we got a foot. It’s hard to tell since it’s lying on top of the snow we already had. Happy shoveling!

      • butterisafruit says:

        The winds woke me around 2 AM. It has to be at least a foot, and it’s all WET. I shoveled a tiny path to get to the bird feeder and It was like lifting cement. Those damn birds better love me. Our power flinched twice but we’re still ticking!

        Have a fun day Error, Boston.

        • vilzvet says:

          Are you in NY too, butter? Hankering down today with “The Social Network” and not much else! Can’t wait to see that.

          • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

            Pretty much a non event here in No. NJ. About 8 inches. Sun is shining, it’s cold, but a beautiful day.

          • butterisafruit says:

            Vilzvet I’m about 20 miles south of Boston. I think I’m going to call my neighbor to come over and “discuss” the storm. We’re both alone (cept for my hubby who’s sick in bed”) We’ll be toasting all of you!

  59. Mookies1mom says:

    Blizzard day indeed! I was supposed to go to the dentist today but not anymore. While I don’t think our area is getting it as bad as others are my driveway is impossible! And it’s still coming down. As long as we don’t lose power we are good.

    • butterisafruit says:

      NO day for a dentist Mookies, stay home and stay warm!

      • Mookies1mom says:

        That’s my plan. I like to hold one of my cats up to the window and show him (Mookie, hence the name) the snow. He doesn’t understand though but he does seem to give it some thought.

  60. HD says:

    Not sure if anyone watches The Game here. Its a show on BET. At any rate, Sheree was on the show last night with one line. She starred as herself. Her line was, “whatever”. She was just walking through a club. I guess she is just one step away from writing out her Oscar speech. 🙂

  61. Waxdiva says:

    Check out the video mashup of Nene and Gregg’s argument:


    • twoile says:

      @WDTx 4 the links OT just saw Jason Gummie Bear Davies on Intervention…seems as though all of PStankers guests r making the reality channels.

  62. Mookies1mom says:

    Don’t know if this will work but here goes.


    It’s the Stanker. It’s funny because my hubby was telling me last night what he thinks most men find attractive. And he says it isn’t what people like Stanker think. He also loves me no matter what size I am it’s what is on the inside that counts. I always knew he was a keeper, even 20+ years ago!

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