IHJZ Watch What Happens Live with NeNe Leakes and More Housewives News!

I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens Live Air Date Jan 16, 2011

Tonight Andy welcomed Iman and NeNe Leakes.

Calling this the Passion and Fashion Spectacular, apparently meaning the “passion“ from NeNe‘s performance on The Real Housewives of Atlanta just prior to the show and the “fashion” being that fashion icon Iman sat in his presence.

Andy revealed that NeNe had shown some reluctance to appear on the show immediately following this particular episode as I think that while she continued to defend herself right up until the episode aired on Twitter, NeNe had to know that there would be fall out from her temper and her fight with Kim. Andy asked NeNe how she felt about appearing on the show “fresh off the bus brawl” but actually we learned that those scenes had been filmed in July of 2010, more than six months prior, not too fresh Cohen!

Before we go any further I have to say that I agree with Cohen, Iman looked amazing last night in Vintage Dolce & Gabana little black dress and her hair…wow, love the hair!

Andy brought up very quickly a few items that were discussed on the show, Derek’s choice of footwear, stilettos while traveling by bus causes Andy to question why the gay men of Atlanta wear stilettos?

Andy asked about the comment that white people walk barefoot, NeNe was sure to include that she didn’t say it, Derek said it but that it is something that she’s heard before. Cohen wanted to know if they thought all white people were like Britney Spears.

I noticed even more than ever how Andy Cohen’s style of interviewing needs some serious work. He doesn’t listen to the responses, he is ready with the next question or he’s flipping through his little blue cards and I honestly think he has no idea what the responses are. I don’t think he cares much either, he just throws out questions like an auctioneer selling an antique vase. I realize he’s trying to get through as many viewer questions as possible, but when he barely gives his guests a chance to respond, as he is talking over them with the next question before they even finish their response and he rarely asks the very obvious follow up questions, he is clearly rushing them and viewers don’t really get a sense that their questions even matter.

Tonight‘s poll questions was very simple, whose side are you on? Kim or NeNe. This was one of the closest polls I’ve ever seen and I’m not surprised. Both Kim and NeNe have loyal fans although I think NeNe is the more popular of the two. I think many people agreed that NeNe started the battle but many won’t blame her for that simply because it was Kim that she started with.

It doesn’t get much closer than 52% to 48% with Andy telling us that this was the highest audience participation in a poll to date but he says that almost every week so it’s not all that impressive.

Andy’s three obsessions this week were:

1. Kim’s single “The Ring Didn’t Mean A Thing” sung in a strip mall – since Andy is unqualified to comment, he is asking NeNe, the professional entertainment correspondent, what her thoughts are. NeNe responded that it is fun singing to the track, sort of like karaoke, it was a “whatever moment“.

2. On The Fashion Show, the contestants were to make wedding clothes for same sex couples. Calvin flipped out and said that a traditional gown impossible. “I do what I want.” Calvin said. Iman says Calvin is talented, he gets on everyone’s nerves but is talented. She said that it was the hardest episode because of the poor quality of work she wanted to send them all home.

3. Finally the argument on the bus between Kim and NeNe. Getting NeNe’s take on the fight NeNe said, “Kim loves to play the victim role“ She says that she was under stress and pressure but that she‘s not happy about the fight. NeNe added that Kim is the rudest chick I know, her vocabulary is limited and that Kim can talk to Sweetie anyway she wants to but not in front of me. NeNe claims that she didn’t want to be on the bus. NeNe added “I feel bad that my children have to watch it. I apologize for my children/husband and family having to stoop to a lower level” Finally adding Caroline’s famous line, if you get involved with trash, you’re going to get some on ya and NeNe said “it got all over me.”

I think that NeNe being uncomfortable being on the show immediately after this particular episode aired was unusual, maybe it means our NeNe is growing up. Remember the WWHL show immediately after Kelly Bensimon flipped out on The Real Housewives of New York? Kelly was practically demanding to appear on the show so that she could tell her side of the story. It is absolutely to NeNe’s benefit that she was able to appear on the show to defend herself. I think the poll question might have flipped slightly in the other direction if NeNe hadn’t been on the show.

Iman was asked who has the best and worst fashion sense out of the Atlanta Housewives. Iman admits that she doesn’t watch the show but turned to NeNe and gave her a thumbs up for her fashion sense.

NeNe admits that she has not spoken to Kim for the last 6-months with the obvious exception of the Reunion Show taping. Here again we see Andy not listening to the answers, he just keeps moving ahead like a Mac Truck plowing through a corn field.

Iman admits to being 56 years old and says the secret to looking great is good skin care. A good foundation is the most important part of your beauty routine ladies.

A viewer asked NeNe if she is jealous of Kim? NeNe gets a bit aggressive with viewers on the show and seems to get annoyed by the questions. Rather than being glad to have an opportunity to clear up these questions that many viewers are thinking, she gets a bit snippy and responds, “What part of kim would I be jealous of? Bye child!”

Andy then shows the two ladies a series of photos from the Golden Globe Awards that had aired earlier that evening and asked for their opinions on each of the celebrity’s attire. Before he begins, Andy shows the standard to which all photos should be measured, a photo of Iman at the BET awards in a stunning rose colored gown. She really did look amazing!

NeNe was asked about the rumor that she had gotten into a fight with Star Jones on The Celebrity Apprentice. NeNe said it was more of a disagreement and that Star had disagreements with many of the others on the show.

NeNe was asked “Why are your boobs popping out all the time?” Defensive and annoyed by the question, NeNe doesn’t agree that her boobs are popping out all the time but invites the viewer to change the channel. I’m sure Andy loved that response.

Finally NeNe was asked if she ever considered going to anger management classes? NeNe responds again being defensive and angry “Why would I do that?”

Why would you do that NeNe? Because when you’re fun, you’re hilarious but when you’re angry you are unreasonable and argumentative.

I was looking forward to seeing NeNe on tonight’s Watch What Happens Live, she is typically a great guest who is hysterically funny, tonight she was angry and defensive. She should have taken the opportunity to make light of the situation and be her typical fun self but she didn’t do that, not at all. There were no funny one liners only a pissed off NeNe, no one wants to see that. I must say that Camille Grammer handled her night in the hot seat better than NeNe did, maybe Camille should share her PR person with NeNe.

Andy’s Three Wishes:

1. Go the movie and see The Heart Specialist – as Andy gushed over Marla Gibbs, I wanted to reign him in a bit, he goes so over the top sometimes. Keep it calm and classy Cohen.
2. Andy wants someone in Internet land to mash a video of a baby Elephant playing on a beach with someone whipping their hair. I’m sure the next morning Andy’s inbox was full of videos.

3. Andy hopes to someday meet a world class Jewish athlete. There aren’t any of “his people” in the sporting world for people to look up to. Enter Mr. Ben Cohen – Rugby player. Ben presents Andy with calendars to inspire him.

At least once per WWHL episode, Andy sticks his foot in his mouth, this time he tells Iman that her husband, rocker David Bowie may know who Ben Cohen is since they’re both British? I’ll bet that made his guest Ben Cohen feel really good.

Iman had the perfect comeback, telling Andy that she would guess that Mr. Ben Cohen knows who her husband is.

NeNe is a whole lot more fun on the aftershow, maybe it’s because she’s been sipping that wine through a straw…don’t miss NeNe calling Sweetie a “monster with lip gloss on”.

The Watch What Happens Live aftershow can be viewed here:

http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/season-4/videos/after-show-with-iman-and-nene-part-2

Thank you to @Tweatcyn my Twitter buddy for this link that should clear up any questions about what Taylor Armstrong of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills does for her husband‘s business:

http://tl.gd/87flg7

Nothing, that’s what Taylor does, nothing, she’s got a title and nothing else.

Does anyone want to take bets on when Camille Grammer will announce that she’s writing a book? I say it’ll be soon, she needs to capitalize on it now while she’s still being talked about.

The more that I see the previews for The Real Housewives of New York the more I believe that Sonja Morgan is not the “thug in a cocktail dress“ that Alex is referring to. It has to be Kelly or Jill. I think as Sonja appears to be kicking Alex out of her house calling her “rude” Sonja is actually telling Alex what she had said to someone else. Bravo likes to twist these previews to make them look like something that they are not.

Real City Housewife has posted her Beverly Hills blog here:

http://realcityhousewife.wordpress.com/2011/01/15/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-im-too-lazy-to-make-up-a-title-episode-12/

She does have a more recent blog about Teen Mom’s, I don’t watch that but anyone who is interested can find it using the same link.

@ImaJustSaying – her blog can be found here:

http://tvtime101.com/

Thank you to Buffywood for setting up a web site for anyone interested in losing weight and getting healthy in the new year, share your diet tips, recipes, get some support and lets hear those success stories! You can find it here:

http://buffywood.wordpress.com/

Thank you to Quincy for this illuminating article she wrote about the Hilton/Richards family:

The Legacy of “Big” Kathy Richards and RHBH

This Thursday, we will see the finale of the first season of “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.” It appears that the Kyle Richards and Kim Richards get into a spat at a party thrown by Taylor Armstrong. In the promo, we see Kim telling Kyle that Lisa and Taylor are not her friends. Lisa is shocked. Taylor says it is her party so Kim should stay away from her.

Through out the first season of RHBH, we have witnessed a love/hate relationship between Kyle and Kim. We know that Kyle was frustrated when she was participating in a search for a new rental home for Kim and her family of four children. Both location and cost were issues for Kim. Kyle told us that Kim lost a lot of money in her divorce. That was an odd statement as Kim’s last divorce was almost two decades ago. Kim also was confused about the number of her marriages at one point. She mentioned three marriages and then backtracked to two.

On numerous occasions, Kyle has told us that both of her parents had died of cancer. That was the reason for her participation in a 69 mile bike ride where she and her husband, Mauricio, raised funds for cancer research in Napa Valley, California. Kyle had been clear that her mother’s dying wish was for Kyle to take care of her older sister, Kim.

Last week, we got a glimmer into the Richard’s family dynamics when Kim called Kyle during a physical training session to tell her that their older sister Kathy Hilton and her family would not be coming to Kim’s oldest daughter, Farrah Aldjufrie’s college graduation. This was the first member of the Richard’s family to have graduated from college and everyone was excited to be attending until a few days before the event when the Kathy Hilton family unexpectedly flew off to Cannes. At the luncheon celebration, Kim tells someone at the table that Kim cried for days because of the cancellation. Kathy must have gotten that message as the graduation check had several extra zeros as Kyle smiles and tells us on camera.

A member of our board mentioned a book called, “The House of Hilton,” several days ago. That book had information on Kathy Hilton and her family. Amazon had the book. There is a one to three month delay in delivery so I looked at their reviews and an article in the Daily Mail by the author of the book, Jerry Oppenheimer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-414603/The-Hideous-Hiltons.html

From Amazon reviews: “The work is bookend by some stories about Paris and a few anecdotes about her sister Nicky. It then follows the life of Paris’ mother Kathy Richards and her grandmother “Big” Kathy Dugan Avanzino Richards Catain Fenton.”

“Big” Kathy is the mother of “Little” Kathy Hilton and her two half sisters, Kim and Kyle Richards. Kathy’s home was the Palm Spring’s house shared by Kim and Kyle that we visited with Lisa for the Easter weekend.

Kim and Kyle have told us that their mother graduated from a school of performing arts and that it was her dream to become an actress. When she became pregnant at a young age with little Kathy her dream morphed into a career for her daughters in acting.

From Amazon reviews: “When you grow up going to see Disney movies you want to know more about the real life celebrities like Paris’ aunt Kim Richards who also played in the Nanny and the Professor as Prudence. So it amazed me that this little girl who is actually beautiful had such an ugly mother (Paris’ grandma)”

Kim tells us in an interview that “Big” Kathy was with “Little” Kathy when Kim was discovered at 6 months of age. We see a photo of baby Kim on our screens. Kim and Kyle tell us that they worked their entire lives until they became moms at an early age. Kim informs us that her mother was distraught when she announced that she was retiring in her early twenties to raise her children.

From Amazon reviews: “Big Kathy was very ambitious and obsessed with accumulating money, diamonds, fancy cars, expensive homes – and husbands to pay for them all. Marry money and have lots of babies, that was the philosophy she sought to instill in her daughters. Sex, she believed, was one way to a man’s heart.”

From Amazon reviews: “Big Kathy was very ambitious and obsessed with accumulating money, diamonds, fancy cars, expensive homes – and husbands to pay for them all. Marry money and have lots of babies, that was the philosophy she sought to instill in her daughters. Sex, she believed, was one way to a man’s heart.”

From Amazon reviews: “ Besides Little Kathy’s matrimonial catch, Kyle and Kim both married twice, and their husbands included the son of a billionaire oilman and Hollywood mogul; a wealthy foreigner and a Beverly Hills estate agent.” We have met Guriash and Mauricio, Kyle’s husbands. Kim was marred to Greg Davis of the Davis Oil from Denver and Texas. Greg is the father of Kim’s two middle children.

Friends of “big” Kathy are quoted as saying that she was fond of bragging that her daughters were married to men with combined net worth of 13 billion dollars.

From online articles, I found that Kyle’s father did die of cancer. During that period, he asked Kyle to remove him from his home as Kim was intoxicated and allowing her children to jump on his bed which caused him more pain. Kyle and Mauricio agreed to help him, but they did not in the end. Kyle’s father was remarried at this point so that may be a factor in Kyle’s response.

The interplay between Kyle Richards and her sister Kim Richards will be important in the first season finale of RHBH. The sisters were raised by what some have called, “the stage mom from hell.” Kim, as we have seen, is quite able to make her views known as she had told us that she reacts badly to stress. Kyle will try to enforce her mother’s final wish that she take care of Kim, which will result in conflict and real housewive drama.

Nice work Quincy! Thanks so much for that great piece! I look foward to your blog tomorrow on The Fashion Show. I’ll bet Quincy is so happy this week – No more Patti Stanger!!! Yeah!!!

Until Next Time….

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372 Responses to IHJZ Watch What Happens Live with NeNe Leakes and More Housewives News!

  1. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Rob Shuter revealed who will be getting a spin-off show, it’s Simon. He will star in a web series on Bravotv.com.

    http://www.popeater.com/2011/01/18/simon-van-kempen-spin-off-show-bravo/

  2. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Lynn for an info packed blog! WWHL – wish there was more of Iman and less of NeNe! Iman was stunning and I really wanted more on the Fashion Show. Her remarks about Calvin and how they don’t watch/see the drama behind the scenes made me rethink how I “evaluate” the designers.

  3. TLM says:

    I’m kind of annoyed by the Sweetie/Kim relationship. Sweetie almost reminds me of Didi with Camille, a sort of “paid for” best friend and constant companion. In a rare nod to Camille, I will say that Camille doesn’t ever seem to put Didi down the way Kim does to Sweetie. I’m tired of everyone in Atlanta using the word “bitch” so much to address each other, especially Kim. It’s not fashionable, it’s just demeaning. I have the same gripe with the Kardashian sisters.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Agree about the bitch being over used – then again they are all bitches! I don’t get the whole assistant thing – duties may vary but respect shouldn’t!

      • TLM says:

        duties may vary but respect shouldn’t! << Well said Windy!! (Tell that to almost all of my former bosses.)

      • Jennifer Neehan says:

        I agree with you all.

        Has any one notice that in the picture of Andy Cohen on his face book page he is bare footed????

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          LOL he is isnt he but then he is at home
          the barefoot comments on h/w’s was in regards to going into a store

  4. TLM says:

    The comment Kyle made about driving herself to work every day at 13 said it all. It sounds like her Mom may have been similar to Bethenny’s. Bravo to Kyle for finding such a great guy and building a healthy family.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Given the obstacles and goals given the Richard sisters, it is apparent that one grew up and one did not. I can’t imagine what it was like to be judged as a child on your income potential in the entertainment business – driving yourself to work at 13 – what parent would allow this?

      • If You Had It Like This says:

        I feel really sorry for Kim. She said she didn’t get to have a childhood and friends and Kyle had tons of friends. She obviously supported the family as many child stars do. I think there is possibly an addiction issue or something with Kim. It seems like Kyle is always sort of implying there are issues with Kim without saying it and she seems to be pretty resentful which is how family members of addicts usually feel. Also, it’s so common for child stars to develop addiction problems. I could be totally off. It’s just a feeling I get.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I don’t feel you are off. I get the feeling Kim is struggling with addiction issues and at her best is probably a functioning alcoholic.

          • error404 says:

            I love this just because it could relate to either show! When I first scanned it I was like “Oh totally, I bet Kim Z is a closet drunk!” LOL

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              🙂
              I don’t think KZ is closeted tho, she always seems to have a drink in her hand.

              In some ways, she might hid it from the world fact literally pouring it into a coffee cup, but I think that was more to ward off getting a ticket than to hide the the fact that she thinks chardonnay is a before breakfast beverage.

              She is one of those steady drunks, they seem sober then BAM- they are shitfaced. Then again, her sober demeanor is what most normal people would see as a loud drunken sailor.

        • quincyil says:

          From the articles that I read, it seems that Kim at one time was in a rehab facility. Some articles mention alcohol as the one that says she was intoxicated and her children were bothering her dying father.

          Kim seems to toast others with fluids that appear to be alcohol in the show. She doesn’t seem to slur her words are act drunk as far I have observed.

          I read online that the reason that Martin drove Kim to her distant home was that Kim was not able to drive her own car there. The implication was that she was drunk at Mohammed’s party at the end of the evening.

          This information is from the net articles and you never know what is true.

          • If You Had It Like This says:

            I’ll have to try to find more info on that. It seems like sometimes Kim R. is drinking an adult beverage but a lot of times it’s just water. She turned down Martin’s offers to get her a drink on both occasions. Maybe it’s because she’s trying to stay sober?

            And Kim Z is just openly a wino!

  5. TLM says:

    Is anyone in the Philly area going to see Bethenny Friday or Saturday at the Merriam or the Dupont???

    • buffywood says:

      I was thinking about it yesterday. I pulled up tickets for the Merriam and I think the best seat available was in row P. With fees it was around $45. Are you going? I forget, where are you?

      • TLM says:

        I’m about 1/2 hr from either theatre. I didn’t know if there was a standby option that was cheaper. It’s not really in the budget right now to go, but I would love to see B speak.

  6. Sparkles says:

    I find the information about the Hilton family quite fascinating.

    TLM, I agree with your point on the prior page that Cynthia should have devoted her energy to creating a marriage contract with Peter rather than a friendship contract with NeNe.

    As for paid friendships, I actually give Camille’s friend Dee Dee (or whatever her name is) the benefit of the doubt. If she has been friends with Camille for 20 years, that is well before Kelsey.

    • TLM says:

      Not exactly a marriage contract but a loan contract independent of any marriage, where she would be repaid whether they got married or not. But I actually think the first mistake she made was to put any money into it. It was his business and he should have gotten a loan from a bank. If they didn’t think he was creditworthy enough to do it, why should she?

      I just don’t like Peter. In my mind he’s on a par with “Dr.” Ti-yee or whatever his name was. If Sheree had stuck with that relationship, he’d be hitting her up for money, no question in my mind. They are both scammers.

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  8. If You Had It Like This says:

    Nene said in an interview she is not coming back next year. She tweeted about it too. Said no time for the drama or something like that. I thought she was super defensive on WWHL. Not funny at all. I know Kim is a monkey with a wig on but I’m starting to really think Nene is jealous of that monkey.

    • TLM says:

      I originally thought she said Kim was “low-down MONEY with a wig on,” which I still think is funny even after hearing the correction. 😉

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      The thing about monkey’s is even though they get paid in peanuts, they are still getting paid. NeNe must be getting paid in sour grapes.

      • If You Had It Like This says:

        Ha ha ha!! Sactly.

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          some of you people are a little to JudgeMENTAL
          Maybe she just doesnt wanna work with backstabing bitches anymore
          its obvious she cant deal with WIG anymore
          and now with the break up of her marriage she wants to move on
          as much as i would miss seeing her on the show if she is unhappy she should leave
          shes gonna wind up with her own show somewhere anyhow
          she was and will always be the most popular housewive of Atlanta
          And after Bethenny the most Popular housewive of the entire franchise

  9. buffywood says:

    Thanks for another great blog. I couldn’t watch WWHL last night as I just can’t tolerate NeNe.

    I’ve update the “losers” blog, thanks for the link.

  10. Sparkles says:

    I know that a lot of people here used to like Jill before changing their minds. Well, I think the same shift in opinions is starting to happen with NeNe.

    Jill is smart enough to stay on RHs. NeNe apparently thinks she is a standalone star. Granted she will be on Celebrity Apprentice, but it is BECAUSE of RHs. She is not going to keep getting those roles w/o RHs.

    NeNe is funny but “boop boop boop” will only take you so far.

    • If You Had It Like This says:

      I read that Trump said it was the most dramatic season of The Apprentice ever and there was a fist fight between Nene and Star. Big surprise.

      • floridagirl88 says:

        That is really saying something given the over-the-top drama with Omorosa that first season.

    • Waxdiva says:

      I have to disagree… Nene isn’t funny at all…Nene is rude and obnoxious: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/01/17/oh-no-no-nene/

      And… for everyone wondering about jillzarin and her #1 fan: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/01/18/jillzarin-fan-adores-her-sad/

      • buffywood says:

        Right on. She is violent and aggressive and will be in a court room soon. I have no idea how at the beginning of the season Dwight held his cool when she was all up in his grill (stole that from my daughter). I would not have been able to handle it, someone invading my personal space like that. Nice Nene was nothing more than an act and she just couldn’t maintain it, the real Nene came back.

        Hey on the bright side, after Nene and Teresa are gone from Bravo, broke and homeless maybe they can do a “Smack down” on Pay per view to make some $. I think both are so mean and violent they would actually get pleasure from it.

        • Waxdiva says:

          B: I’d love to see that… they are both frauds and their real selves (especially Nene’s) are showing through. I don’t think I’d actually pay good money. Maybe they could do a free street fight in Newark…

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          Dewrong took it because he knew he was wrong and had betrayed her

      • quincyil says:

        I have a category of people in the real world that I like to know from a great distance. If I lived and had to work near JZ, she’s be in this special category. No one should have to be in close contact with JZ. She will always find something negative and comment on it. That is her nature and as she says, she can’t change.

    • quincyil says:

      What happened to all of that Nene on a sitcom talk that went on after season one? I remember that she herself said she was trying out of a television show.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I wish they would stop trying to make ‘bloop, bloop, bloop’ happen.

      That’s the sound NeNe is going to make on her slide down the popularity ladder.

      • Sparkles says:

        “Plunk, plunk, plunk.”
        “Doop, doop, doop.”
        “Bip, bip, bip.”

        Wow, I’m clever too. Watch out, Kathy Griffen!

    • twoile says:

      @Spar, Maybe Neigh Neh is counting her chickens b 4 they hatch ie the CA show……don’t think she will win imho=)

  11. Golden Girl says:

    Thanks Lynn for the blog!
    I couldn’t believe how harsh Nene was when she was answering the viewers questions. If she truly isn’t going to be back for another season why would she want to tick off all her fans? It’s almost like she wants so go with a big f-you to the viewers. Nice send off.

    • DJ Fruit Loops says:

      i wonder how any of you people would have replied to people asking such insulting and obnoxious questions i mean really asking about her breast “Allways” popping out of her dress oh yes that was a real class act question
      *eyes rolling*

  12. Kellita says:

    Interesting stuff about the Hilton/Richards family, Quincy. Thanks!

    Just speculating, but I wonder if Kim was the more favored/pampered daughter than Kyle. Kyle made that comment about driving herself to work at 13, but Kim seems like she adored her mom. I definitely agree that Kim seems like she may have an addiction to alcohol. Wasn’t there an article that said she spent time in rehab during filming, which is why she’s not shown as much? (Or did I totally dream that up?)

    • kbinldo says:

      Kim was more successful than Kyle. Guess where Mommy Dearest put all her attention?

    • quincyil says:

      I wished I could have purchased the book, but I live in farmland and amazon had that long waiting period. A member of the board mentioned it on a blog recently and the credit for this find should go to her. I hope she reads this post and takes credit.

      Q

      • klmh says:

        If you go to Amazon, pick the used books and its 8.99 or something like that. Estimated shipping is 19th or 20th.

        • quincyil says:

          So.. it seems it is out of print and that used books are available. I have not ordered a used book from amazon before. I didn’t know if it was safe.

          • klmh says:

            I’ve had to do the same but I have been more than impressed with Amazon and those associated with it. Had a bit of a problem because of an audio book being abridged instead of una., but they quickly returned my money and shipping costs.

          • floridagirl88 says:

            Quincy, I have both bought and sold books from Amazon. Amazon handles the money so you don’t have to worry about not getting what you paid for. I have been selling my excess books for about six years with no problems. And I have been buying used books from them for about ten years or since they first opened shop. It’s great when a book is out of print and resellers have it real cheap.

          • twoile says:

            @Q I’ve ordered several used bks via Amazon & have not been disappointed……similar to ebay look 4 the ratings 4 the seller, go with the highest. Best of luck=)

            • quincyil says:

              Then, I’m going to order one. Thanks for the advice.

              • Jacqueline A says:

                if you have a Kindle App (its free) for your computer you can download on Amazon for $9.00 instantly. I read the Kathy Richards parts last night . It was very telling of why we are seeing what we are seeing with Kim and Kyle imo. Very quick read.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        It’s available on google reader- so you can buy it and read it on your laptop and even cell phone. No waiting- other than the down load.

        • quincyil says:

          I have Hughes Satellite internet out here in no man’s land. There is a limit to what we can down load.
          Books…are above the limit.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Do you have a laptop?
            You can go to a Starbucks or even some McDonald’s and connect with their wireless 🙂

            • quincyil says:

              Yes, I do have a new mac. That is a great idea. I usually update my computer when visiting my daughter and hotels, but I could do that at lunch sometimes too. Great idea….

      • missmi says:

        I believe it was me and I actually got it at the library. The book does not discuss Kyle as much as Kim, but you def. get the impression that she is a train wreck and likes to drink. I also remeber seeing something about LH on the P that said that little Kathy used to bring Kyle to the set often. The mother was a nightmare and treated her husbands poorly. In fact, Kim and Kyle did”nt have much of a relationship with him after the divorce. I believe he died pretty much broke. He was the closest thing Kathy Hilton had to a father and she did zero for him when he was sick. I believe she called just after he died and demanded for the phone to be put to his ear anyways. That could be a little wrong, but fairly accurate if my memory serves. Big Kathy did push wealthy men and having babies. The Hilton family did not like Big Kathy.

        • quincyil says:

          Thanks for responding. Some people are shy so I hope that you would respond. Thanks for sharing this information with us.

      • Cheri says:

        I read the book a few years ago it was quite interesting they had the mother from H—. I’ve always thought NeNe was nothing but a loud mouthed uneducated woman and still do. None of these women on the altanta housewives (and just a few on the other shows) are people I would want for friends. I can’t decide whether they are great actors or just plain idiots. Who acts like them not any of my friends

  13. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO – NeNe backed herself into a corner with her violent tendencies, nasty mouth and her unchecked/misplaced jealousy of Kim. Now we hear that she got into a fist fight with Starr Jones and has no need for anger management education! It is so sad that she says she came out of an abusive relationship and supports a charity to support women who are coming out of abusive relationships and yet she is a stone cold bully and the most abusive cast member.

    • error404 says:

      I guess we’ll see if it’s true soon enough. When Andy asked Nene about the rumors, she denied them.

      • If You Had It Like This says:

        I know! She said her fight with Star wasn’t as bad as the one with Kim and then I read that Donald Trump said it was a fist fight so who knows? I’m sure she’ll treat us to her usual display of finger waggin’ in your face trash talking. And then blame Star.

    • DJ Fruit Loops says:

      Both women have denied that ever happend
      the have both said they had an argument of WORdS not FIST
      why not wait till you actually have the facts before judging

    • If You Had It Like This says:

      http://www.realitytea.com/tag/star-jones/

      This is where I read it about them fighting. Could just be that he’s using controversial language to get viewers and ratings but we’ll see soon enough.

  14. Adgirl says:

    NeNe is not “growing up”!!!
    Get real. She is a middle aged bully who is never gonna change. She is her own worst enemy and she is so full of herself she’s gonna pop.

    Her agent probably warned her about how she was coming off on RH last year and told her if she wants to get other gigs she’d better knock it off. Suddenly this season she toned it down …. for a while.
    Then it was the drunk finger wagging at Gregg. Now, it’s the drunk aggressive bully on the tour bus.
    The channel 11 gig lasted what – 2 or 3 interviews? Could she not score more or did the station realize that NeNe can’t be bothered to do her research. Maybe the tv station and Bravo only had a limited deal (wasn’t that station an NBC affiliate?).

    I’ll bet Trump is annoyed. Celebrity Apprentice is actually quite serious about the contestants being productive or they get fired. It’s where faded celebs get a chance to show they can do more than prance around on a stage. They are actually are smart. Sure conflict is good, but does Trump want CA to be about middle aged black women having a cat fight??

    So NeNe’s agent is probably telling her that she will have trouble landing gigs because she getting a bad reputation as a hothead. Who would hire her to conduct and interview show? Or who would appear on one?

    • Waxdiva says:

      Nene’s job was a joke… even the station who ‘hired’ her says it was:
      http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/01/12/1100/

      • DJ Fruit Loops says:

        they didnt say anthing of the kind
        they didnt say that it wasnt a real job all they said was she did it for 4 weeks and that this was the last week
        stop trying to make something out of nothing

    • quincyil says:

      This season she used her size to physically bully at least two people. If she did that on Trump’s show too, it’a pattern that should not be ignored.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Noticed at the New Year’s Eve party just how big she is and I swear she is just getting bigger! She does throw her weight around in an intimidating fashion. So unladylike!

    • error404 says:

      ?

      Guess you missed the season Denis Rodman was on! lol

      CA, like all reality tv, is trash tv. Seriously, like Trump is going to give Joan Rivers a CEO job where she can call the head of BP “worse than Hitler”? Trump himself is a joke in the business world, selling his name to other people’s developments like a real housewife lends her name to a ghost written cook book. He’s the Kim Z of the real estate world.

    • TLM says:

      “Who would hire her to conduct and interview show? Or who would appear on one?”

      The View! The View! The View! LOL…

  15. kbinldo says:

    Thanks for the great blog, Lynn, & for the great insight into the Richards family, Quincy!

    No wonder Kim has such lousy coping skills! Her mother was a control freak & stage mother from hell! I just bet Kim never had anything resembling a “normal” childhood & her only escape from her mom was to get married & knocked up. Sad sad sad. I hope she gets some help & straightens her life out. I do like her & wish her well.

  16. WindyCityWondering says:

    Iman has always intrigued me – super model, married to David Bowie, beautiful, poised, polished and articulate. She could carry an entire episode of WWHL! Yet there she is sitting next to the Atlanta hot mess….Dolce & Gabbana vs Walmart. NeNe wouldn’t interact with her and Andy hide behind his question cards! What a wasted opportunity for fans eager to learn about other Bravo celebrities…..

    • quincyil says:

      Iman said that she doesn’t watch TV. I know a lot of Syfy actors take roles and claim the same. I have a hard time believing that Kelsey Grammer’s new fling isn’t recording RHBH and secretly playing the Camille scenes over and over, but I’m sure she claims that doesn’t watch TV either.

    • error404 says:

      Did you not watch the show where she was on with another fashion power diva extrodinaire DvF? Two of fashions biggest names… and I had to keep pinching myself to stay awake. Talk about a snooze fest! ZZZZZzzzzzzz

  17. LynnNChicago says:

    This was posted yesterday:

    “MichelleShaniquaObama
    Submitted on 2011/01/17 at 8:37 pm

    Some of these women are quick to bring up the issue of race. I think that has more to do with their own insecurities. Most white people I know do not go around thinking about race 24/7.”

    For those of you who have been around a while, you may remember our old friend Upper West Side Dude who left the blog a few months ago after insulting a number of us. He’s baaaack….

    Sorry to “out” you UWSD, maybe you should have just came back as yourself? Those posts back in October when you used the name “Tre” were just rude! You should know better! Have a nice day…

    • buffywood says:

      Good catch Lynn. I remember it will when UWSD left. IMHO that was a good example of someone reading racism into a comment when none existed at all. Someone called him Upper West Side Boy as he was acting VERY immature. Boy was nothing more that maturity dig on his name “dude”, absolutely nothing more. The poster had no idea of his race. It took me a few minutes to understand what was being looked at as offensive as I never thought of the term boy to mean anything other than a little male child.

  18. Adgirl says:

    Lynn,
    I’m glad you have been focusing on Andy’s lazy interviewing skills. As a viewer it is extremely frustrating to have him throw out questions then ignore the answer. He has been asking tougher questions, but then lets the guest shrug it off or make fun of it (and us).
    Why bother even having WWHL if it’s only a vanity piece for Andy to proclaim his mazel or game show time. I don’t know if watching WWHL is worth our time.

  19. buffywood says:

    OK eveyone. Here is my PSA for the day.

    Call your Dr. now to book any outstanding appointments and or tests NOW. I haven’t been to see my Dr. since my 8 week follow-up after having my son almost 3 years ago. That is so stupid! I’ve thought about it off and on so many times I can’t even count. When my sister was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer 4 months ago I thought about it too as my last mammogram was before I was pregnant. I would think about it in the evenings or when I was out and say to myself “Call tomorrow” but yet I never did. I even posted about my Dr. here last week but didn’t call.

    If need a mammogram and don’t have insurance there are ways to get one free. I will help you do the research to find out how in your area. Just post on my little Lynn’s Family Losers blog and let me know what major city you are near.

    • WaxDiva says:

      Buffy: Always good to be reminded… I know that some of Lynn Fam are going through or know of someone going through the big ‘C’. The ACS, in conjunction with P&G, offers a free program for cancer patients that is terrific: ‘Look Good, Feel Better:’ http://lookgoodfeelbetter.org/

      Short description: Look Good…Feel Better is a non-medical, brand-neutral public service program that teaches beauty techniques to cancer patients to help them manage the appearance-related side effects of cancer treatment.
      Look Good…Feel Better group programs are open to all women with cancer who are undergoing chemotherapy, radiation, or other forms of treatment.

      • BambiBaby22 says:

        I think a good way to remembe your annual mamogram is to always schedule it during your birthday month.

        • justanothermary says:

          Please also remember you are NOT too young to get cancer. When the news came out that some were saying there is no need for a mammogram until age 50 I was furious. In many cases cancer is very cureable but catching it early is the single most important thing you can do.

  20. error404 says:

    It always amazes me how many people live in a black and white world, making decisions based on tenuous snap judgements.

    Nene has never adopted the phony PR babble “the customer is always right” talk of most celebrities. That will probably change if she continues in the spot light.

    But in what parallel universe is “Have you ever thought about anger management classes?” a polite and honest question from a fan to a celebrity? Talk about rude!

    So this is how it works? One person who wasn’t raised right asks a ghetto question, and the other person who wasn’t raised right gives a ghetto answer, and we’re all suppose to under stand that the rude questioner is “right” and the rude responder is “wrong”. Some one needs to send me a guide book on how to divide the world into good and bad people.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Watch tone of voice and body language – this gives a better understanding of what is being said as opposed to the words being used. NeNe is very dismissive of questions she is uncomfortable with answering. Instead of giving the standard, “that’s a good question” and then trying to answer it – she mocks the person who is asking.

      • error404 says:

        oh ITA! Nene is an ill-mannered bully, always has been since s1. But I think that the whole reason that shows like this are popular is because society in general has gotten way rude. I am constantly shocked by how rude the viewers questions are to these women. Could you imagine David Frost turning to Bette Davis or Kathern Hepburn and saying “Shasta from Deluth wants to know: Have you had a boob job?” Just because Nene is a thug, doesn’t excuse questions like “Why ya titties always hangin out?”or “Yo, why youse so jealous of my girl Kim?” Blech.

        Bitch is totally overused. I actually have been trying to use it less here, even though pretty much every thing out of the housewives mouths make me want to respond “Bitch, puhlease!” I have been really trying to not use it so much. My mother would faint if she heard me talking all ghetto and rude! lol

        but Nene has always been oddly prissy. Prissy about sex. Prissy about swearing. Prissy about “morals”. And she’s not alone on that show. They all love to throw up Big Poppa as the most highly offensive thing anyone ever done. You’d think she was Jeffrey Damer they way they all go on about Kim. Because marrying just for money, or marrying an ex-con, or having a baby out of wedlock is all perfectly acceptable, but sleeping with a married man is worse than murder. Whatever. They’re all two-faced.

        • quincyil says:

          Did Gregg have any business relationship with Big Poppa? I wonder if Nene knew Big Poppa’s wife. It seems that Kim and Nene knew each other before the show. Gregg was selling homes and Big Poppa owned a shopping mall and large homes.

          • If You Had It Like This says:

            Speaking of Kim and shopping malls… I live in Atlanta (really Atlanta, not Alpharetta where these fakes live) and I was at Louis Vuitton at Lennox Square and saw Kim Z and Kroy shopping there. It was so funny. She looks EXACTLY like she looks on tv except her wig looks WIGGY in person. Like wigged out, crazy double wig. She was talking loudly about Brielle. I tried not to stare and give her too much recognition! Most “celebrities” would not be at the mall on a Saturday when it is absolutely packed, but there Kim was…parading around. I’m sure she loves the attention.

        • twoile says:

          @E I would offer the reason that the “ladies” harp on big popa/married man ….may very well b that as married women they i d with his wife…..To hear Fakedra say that she is married, as if married status was a worth a gold medal, leads me 2 believe that KZ is a threat 2 their self important status.=) In reality most of them would have a real challenge 2 pass the “class” test.

        • DJ Fruit Loops says:

          But Kim IS having a baby out of wedlock now and The other woman who did that was at least in love and living with the man she eventually married
          Kim has been a mistress for years
          living off his money
          oh thats such a wonderful example to give your two daughters
          and when she isnt doing that she is using her friends
          when she isnt talking about herself and making everything be about her
          i dont know how Kandi kept from killing her on that bus

      • IMJ says:

        Good point error. Ive seen other housewives have similar abrasive responses to viewer questions also. It doesnt always equate to them being “vile” or “mean”.

  21. California35 says:

    Good morning Lynn,

    Thanks for the recap, I missed it. I only read your part of the post today, I will come back to read the rest later today (Quincy’s part and the others).

    I had been reading from you and other posters that Nene is funny and bring in comedy to the show, so I was thinking that maybe she wasn’t having any more of her on your face outbursts any more and that she is changing her bad behavior. One of the reasons I wasn’t into the Atlanta wives any more. Now that I read your take on it regarding her bad side also, I am thinking that she always has the fighting thing in her still. I am glad to see that you do mention both though.

    Camile coming out with a book. I didn’t think of it before, but you are right! She will take any opportunity to tell her story and make some money in the process. She will probably come up with a book that I won’t be interested to read.

  22. error404 says:

    Kim’s tagline is “I was a child star, but my greatest role is as a mother”.

    I think Kyle’s anger and resentment stems not only from Kim being the bigger star and possible favorite of “stage mom from hell” (like a stage mom from heaven exists. Ha!) , but from the possibility that Kyle had to mother those kids when Kim couldn’t. Why did the daughter run to Kyle when Kim was being difficult about her leaving for Texas? I suspect that Kyle raised those kids as much as Kim did. Just a hunch.

    • quincyil says:

      For all of the love that Kim gives to her children, she seems not to understand their need to grow up and leave the nest. Kyle’s daughter, Farrah, seems far more wise than Kyle. When she heard that the Hiltons were skipping the graduation, she listed to the trainer and agreed that you should be happy with what you have. I bet Farrah had to deal with her crying mother for days too.

      I always wondered if Paris Hilton’s parents would get angry with her when she drunk drives or is arrested with cocaine in her purse. I think Kathy Hilton did all that and more as a teen and adult so her view of right and wrong is clouded. I suspect it’s ok with Kathy Hilton, if you don’t get caught.

      Kim has a daughter who is 24. Apparently, she did not go to college, but her second daughter is in a school and living away in a dorm. Kyle seems more conservative in parenting and was against the use of marijuana because from her personal experience it was a gateway drug. She seems to want her children to be productive and Mauricio is probably a good father. Kyle’s influence on Kim’s children is obvious and that is a good thing.

      Kim’s youngest daughter acted more like the parent than Kim did in several instances during the show. She has a great sense of humor too.

      I don’t know how actors get work in Hollywood, but it seems that Kim wanted to use RHBH to jump start her career again. I would think there are firms that get you parts when you are a known actress. She probably knows directors too.

      • AZ Girl says:

        From what I have read there is not a lot of Hilton money left. Seems like Little Kathy mimics her mother. Paris was groomed to bring in the cash. That is why paris and nicky were introduced to the clubing scene at 15. Paris gets appearence fees. That is probably why they all went to Cannes. Great article in Vanity Fair about this 5 or6 years ago.

        • quincyil says:

          One article said that Paris received 200,000 dollars for an event that she appeared at. I can’t believe that someone would pay her that much money to just stop by.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Not to mention all the free cars, jewelry and cloths they are given. Even that idiot Lindsey Lohan is rewarded with gratis -for getting out of rehab.

            This is why I refuses to watch those turds on the Jersey Shore.

        • quincyil says:

          I think Mauricio works for Paris Hilton’s father so he owns a very successful real estate firm selling very expensive home. I know the market is down, but those large home still seem to sell.

        • 2Stupid says:

          Here is the article you were referencing. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/11/celebparents200711 It is a little dated because Blackstone did buy a number of the Hilton properties. WSL can correct me, but I think there are a few properties still owned by the family, but most are owned by Blackstone. The Hilton men have always had thing for Hollywood starlets too. I think this obsession with stardom went both ways with Rick and Kathy.

          • quincyil says:

            very interesting article….

          • twoile says:

            Tx it is very interesting….Kathy sounds a lot like her Mom, Big Kathy w/all the atendent problems….I believe the Hiltons didn’t attend the grad b/c they wouldn’t get pd by bravo 2 do so…petty yes but certainly in keeping w/their behaviors.

      • buffywood says:

        “For all of the love that Kim gives to her children, she seems not to understand their need to grow up and leave the nest.” This makes sense to me. I image that Kim grew up in a household in which she didn’t get much love or nurturing and felt like she couldn’t stay at home, despite wanting to. Being a child actor she was forced to grow up. As a mother she took the opposite route loving and nurturing her children. She naturally assumed then her children would want to stay at home, just like she wanted but couldn’t.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      interesting take on the sisters – Kyle probably has had to step in numerous times to help and is resented for it. Kim isn’t grateful and I can’t tell if she is living in the past or paralyzed by the future.

      • TLM says:

        Kim isn’t grateful and I can’t tell if she is living in the past or paralyzed by the future. << Wow, Windy, you are deep today!!! Love this comment.

        I think it's a bit of both with Kim. I also think there's ambiguity in her relationship with Kyle. She loves her sister but is jealous of her life at the same time. She both wants Kyle's help but resents it because it reminds her of what she doesn't have in her life. And I definitely think there is a substance abuse problem, personality issue, or both. I hope she doesn't have a nervous breakdown when her kids start moving out. She looked horrified when her oldest daughter said she would be living in an apartment soon.

    • Sparkles says:

      I am not impressed with “Little” Kathy. She appears to excuse Paris’s bad behavior. I remember that Kathy yelled at the judge when Paris was in court for one of her DUIs.

      Maybe one of the reasons the Hiltons didn’t go to Farrah’s graduation is that they didn’t think it was a big deal. They apparently don’t value education; they could afford to send their kids to any university but so far none has made it past high school. Paris once said that she wasn’t going to college because she didn’t “need to.”

      I think that Mauricio’s family (including his mother with two advanced degrees) set a better example.

  23. error404 says:

    as shlocky as WWHL is, I’ll never understand the inability of it’s guest to follow even the simplest of instructions. Every single week he asks his guests to play a game that is a variation on the theme; Answer “yes” or “no”. It’s so easy a 5 year old could do it! Yet every week, the celebrities are stumped, can’t seem to even understand the basic premise of it, and even though they are repeated given instructions like “just say either Black or White”, they hem and haw, take up valuable air time going “Ummmmmm” and then answer “chartruse!”. Is being a complete moron required before they let you one the show?

  24. boston02127 says:

    OT/ Does anyone else ever read Claudine’s aka Dina’s tweets? She contiunasly tweets about picking up poop. Washing that smelly cat. Cleaning oil marks that the cat leaves around. Washing her dogs. On an everyday basis her house must smell like a shit hole.

  25. quincyil says:

    Tonight on “The Fashion Show”, the four remaining designers will go to the sea and be asked to create from the theme “Earth, Wind and Fire.” It reminds me of the “Work of Art” competition where Abdi blew every one out of the water with a beach charcoal paintings of himself floating in air over what I thought was water. It has to be a better challenge than forcing the designers to make “The Fashion Show” from the lost and found section of a New Jersey train terminal. The promo shows what appears to be blue and gray flowing chiffon gowns. I believe that one more contestant will be “out of fashion” tonight and three will go into the finale. I imagine that they will be given some time and money to create their own fashion line. I am sad to see the show ending, but the stress of those competitions has to take it’s toll on the particpants. The live away from their families, the have no internet and no television so they are isolated for weeks. I’m going to miss these people.

  26. klmh says:

    I was wondering if anyone that tweets could explain the tweet someone sent Lynn about Taylor. It seems Im missing something, as I provided the website for her company yesterday because no one, including me until yesterday, could find out what company she worked at or was associated with, but apparently she doesn’t do anything there? Was this a tweet from an employee there?
    Thanks for your reply.

    • quincyil says:

      There was a link there to the company that lists a resume for Taylor Armstrong. Apparently, she was a drug representative prior to founding this fancy sounding internet company. I don’t know how much money she makes from this soft ware company, but drug reps around here start at 60,000 and go to around 125,000 a year. That’s not a lot of money for a BH’s lifestyle, but I suspect that money must come from Taylor’s marriage.

      • klmh says:

        Thanks Q. Why though did Lynn say she didn’t do anything? Is there something there I can’t read or assume, I suppose?
        Thanks

        • quincyil says:

          I can’t speak for anyone else. My impression was they were trying to impress with their job descriptions. Both people on that page were founders, one is the CEO and the other President.

          I haven’t done any research on this, but I may look around when I have time.

          I bet people in online computer business would know more than I do.

          I have a resume, but I never put my board positions for the organizations that support on my resume.

          • klmh says:

            Thanks again. I am truly baffled by this on Lynn’s blog. She has the tweet and the link is provided, but nothing is stated that Taylor doesn’t do anything.
            I know most do not like Taylor, but the verdict is still out, at least to my satisfaction. Looking forward to this week’s episode though.

            • quincyil says:

              I think she’s ok. We never really get to know the stars in the first season and they change as they are affected by stardom.

              I often try to figure out what I would do in the situations that we see. Most of the time, I would do nothing but smile, so it would be a very boring show.

  27. mariareads says:

    Nene gets physical when she is angry. That’s a red flag for me. You don’t touch another person! EVER! She has become a bully and I’ll bet her personal problems have something to do with it. She sees herself one way and what we see is something else. Yes, she has that segment on TV news but it’s only a segment. It’s not a show. As for Kim she provides some comic relief and I’ll bet that behavior with Sweetie is staged as hell and Sweetie enjoys getting paid so there you go. I’m not defending it-just sayin.

    These 2 are a hot mess but if it wasn’t for them, why bother watching Atlanta? The rest are boring.

    • error404 says:

      I don’t buy that Nene’s rages aren’t staged either. Who in real life gets so out of control angry, yet hovers over someone a mere inch away and never touches them? Don Juan was barely holding her back, if she wanted to slap Kim’s wig right off, she had plenty of opportunity. I just don’t think it’s very realistic that a rage-aholic has such impressive control. Fake fake fake.

      • buffywood says:

        Someone who is street smart enough to know to push the buttons you can without touching them to try and get them to make physical contact first. Once that happens watch out. It goes from assault to self defense in a split second and all legal and possible financial repercussions go out the window.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        editing! in Kandi’s Bravo blog – the fight went on for almost two hours….they’d go at it, calm down and go at it again!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Where do these women find the stamina to argue that long, I can barely go 5 minutes if even that.

          • quincyil says:

            I think this is what I hate about our nemesis, Jill Zarin. There is a rage within her that she feels she has the right to let loose on anyone she dislikes.

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

        Error, every time you write fake, fake, fake it reminds me of the Seinfeld epi when Elaine claims to have faked it with Jerry.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        At a certain point it’s like pro wrestling. They bring it for the cameras, the audience. No one’s going to watch a bus trip full of “please” and “thank yous.”

        & as far as fights went, IMO it was stupid and boring. Doesn’t come anywhere close to the wackiness and entertainment value of Sheree’s fight with Kim at that restaurant where even Michael Lohan popped up. Talk about surreal. LOL

    • Sparkles says:

      Well she does make the show interesting. And Bravo knows that the most UNpopular housewives can also bring in the ratings.

      That said, the *only* reason I will watch the next season of RHONJ is because I want to see Teresa’s SIL call her out.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Her whole I’m not coming back was her knee jerk reaction to the the intense dislike shown her by the general public topped off with another ass whooping at the reunion. She has enough money to get out of her Bravo contract if she wanted to do so. It was just alittle Camille machiavellic magic!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Of course she’s coming back! What else is she gonna do? She craves attention and validation. No one really would know who she was if it weren’t for RHBH. If she hadn’t been on the show, even with the divorce she wouldn’t be getting the press she has been. She’d just be Kelsey Grammer’s wife, spurned wife, ex-wife, yadda.

      Now she’s got some notoriety all on her own: “Oh she’s the crazy eyed b on RHBH with the crazy psycho psychic friend.” And she’s ready for her close up, Mr. Cohen.

      On the bright side, maybe we’ll see more of her good buddy, Allison “you’re all gonna die” Dubois. She’s an amazing character—-like something out of a Mad TV skit, lol.

    • TLM says:

      You know it’s not just Camille, of course. It’s her, Didi, and….(wait for it)… Nick! How else would she get Nick to keep sucking up to her unless she held the promise of getting him more air time?? I’m sure in an attempt to rehab her image, she’ll have the nannies bring them to her, pretend she knows them, and then, as soon as the cameras are off, hand them off to her helpers like someone handing their dirty plates to waitstaff.

  28. boston02127 says:

    By the end of each housewife season, I’m get so sick of them. For some reason esp with Atlanta this season. Can’t wait for NY to start.

    • California35 says:

      I hear yah! I can’t wait for NY also!

    • error404 says:

      Yes! They all seem to follow a certain formula: they start out funny, but as the season goes on, all of the screaming and scheming builds toward a big finale blow out and then the human tragedy that is the reunion shows. Like lengthy house guests, I usually can’t wait to get rid of them toward the end.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      In the back of my mind as I watch both BH and Atl….NY is coming…..NY is coming…..who is the thug in the cocktail dress….NY is coming…..

      • quincyil says:

        I think the thug is Jill.

        • California35 says:

          Let’s hope. I really want Alex and Sonya to keep being classy and not give that kind of drama. They both had something in common before, they both stayed out of other’s people business and avoided confrontation (ok Alex changed that last season :-P) but you know I mean.

  29. California35 says:

    Great news about Simon, I will watch! But what is that on webshow? We can only watch on the internet?

    Quncy – thanks for the info on the Kathy/Kim/Kyel sisters information. (I guess the mom liked the letter K). I am wondering also if their mom was like Betheny’s plus the “stage” thing going on. Also, if Kim got into drugs of some kind growing up that Kyle had to cover up or help out with, and that is why her annoyance with Kim. One thing I noticed before they got into the BH wives, is that the sisters support each other on publicThey might have their issues, but will support and cover up against outsiders (have each other’s back). I am not understand why then, Kyel is doing what she is doing to Kim on the show for everyone to see.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Yes, it is only an internet show, a webcast. It sounds like it will be more or less Simon just being followed by a camera while he does his “real life” ordinary things.

      Which of course, we all realize that there is very little “real” associated with any of these people/series.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Kim makes comment and Kyle hears them. Kyle is self aware, but unable to control herself. She knows that certain statements and behaviors look bad on film, but she stirs the pot when she is trying to extinguish the embers. When Kyle asks Kim in the limo something like “What are your doing?” That’s code for this is one TV for goodness sake, be careful. Kim is pretty dense when it come to innuendo so she continues her train of thought with America. Kyle just wanted to get close enough to stop her sister from letting the cat out of the bag.

      I know… lots of metaphors. LOL. I was on a roll.

  30. Cheri says:

    FYI. I was watching House last night (I dvr’d it) and just about laughed my headoff when he admitted the real reason he wanted to get out if his girlfriends bd dinner……. He wanted to spend the evening alone watching the Housewives of New Jersey !!!!!! Then at the end of the show he was sitting in his living room with the TV on and you could hear Danielle arguing with one of the other housewives. I’ d have to rewatch it to remember which one but I dud recognize the voice. It was the funniest thing to see one fictional character watching a reality show character

  31. California35 says:

    I am wondering now about the Trump show. I watched a few seasons (I stopped for a while because there was more and more drama in it). I have been back and there is always some drama, and know that it is acceptable for rating. I don’t think real life businesses would appreciate that kind of drama in their office. I do pay attention to the actual task and the few people who stay away from the drama.

    Any ways, the reason I got into the Trump show is because I remember that he fired Khloe Kardashian not because she failed on the task or because she didn’t help, but because she had a DUI before the show. He said that he didn’t tolerate that kind of behavior and that she had to take care of those issues. He also said that he didn’t know she had those troubles before the show. On the other hand, and on a different season Dennis Rodman kept acting drunk or would leave the project to go for drinks, or not show up to the next day. Someone even called him up on the fact that he needed help, still he was there. He was doing the drinking and all of the show and didn’t get fired (not for that), but Khloe did it outside and before the show and got solely fired for it. Trump said that he didn’t accept drinking and driving a real problem, and a statement I was happy to hear, but then what happened with Dennis? He was drinking and giving ratings? Is that why he stayed? Hhmm

    I will watch the Apprentice, a show I always hope to learn from, but often realize that it is JUST a show not a place to learn from 😛

    • It's Hot In Texas says:

      I have always thought the same thing about Khloe/Dennis Rodman. Trump seemed so condesending to Khloe. Not that anyone should drink and drive. I think Khloe is more famous now, and wonder if that would make a difference.

      Dr. Drew recently said that he worked so hard with Dennis Rodman, but to no avail.

  32. Amber...Real Wife says:

    @ERROR

    I agree with you re: Nene’s controlled rages. Kandi once said that Nene excused herself by saying she would get “Camera Balls”. In other words, really outrageous for more tv time. That said, if she were “really” raging, there would be no one strong enough to stop her if she wanted to get violent. I think she acts up, knowing someone will “hold her back” and she wont have to actually do the battery. I’m not saying that she wont get violent without cameras, as she supposedly choked Kim in a parking lot.

    Her fear of jail time is what probably keeps her from crossing the line and “hitting” first, but would go crazy if someone pushed her back or moved her hand from invading their aura. She’s a bully who intimidates her victims by yelling and invading their space, wishing someone would touch her so she can go off. How dreadful!

    • error404 says:

      yeah, Nene is a master of the bs accusation… I loved how she kept getting right in Dwight’s face, but kept screaming “watch your hands!”. You know she had the police on speed dial waiting for an excuse to have him arrested for assault. She’s a piece of work. Wouldn’t you just put the house up for sale if she moved in next door!

      But I also know several big burly scary looking guys that a lot of others guys won’t even look at sideways out of fear. They all turn out to be total sweethearts who wouldn’t hurt a fly once you get to know them, but other guys still practically run out of their way when they simply enter a building. That’s why I don’t get why these women take on Nene. She’s as big as a house and could probably put Kim in a coma without hardly trying, yet every season Kim has no problem poking the sleeping bear with a stick over and over again. Nobody who’s not suicidal could possibly be that stupid. I’m sticking with Elaine Benice: fake fake fake.

  33. WindyCityWondering says:

    Am I the only one who is getting sick of housewives not doing their blogs in a timely fashion? RHBH – give Camille a pass as she had a hard week but Kim hasn’t blogged since before Christmas! RHoA – where are you NeNe and Kim? Sheree doesn’t have an assignment due this week cause she didn’t do anything. Phaedra stop using the baby as an excuse. Come on Bravo Andy – dock their pay or something!

  34. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Re: Kim and Derek

    I wonder what happened between Wigatha and Derek that he’s no longer her hair stylist. Does she go to someone else for just for color (ha!) or is their business venture now over? Could she have pulled a “Sweetie” on him and he said “Hell No!”and took off in his high heels? Did the WWHL episode where he agreed with PattiLaBelle, that Kim shouldn’t be singing, or couldn’t sing, break the relationship? Kim was pretty PO’d that Derek sided with Patti even saying “I pay you”. Does anyone know if he still does her “hair”? LOL Find the answers to these and more on “Wigs of our Lives” and “As the Follicles Burn”!

    • California35 says:

      Is he the one that was singing for Kandi and her crew? What ever happen to that, by the way?

      Sorry I had no answers for you, and instead asked some more 😛

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        No, that would be Lawrence, the singer of “Closet Freak”. He’s Sheree’s gay. Derek was Kim’s gay along with her designer Dale. Dwight WAS Nene’s gay, but was vanished and now he is Phaedra’s gay. Cynthia has a gay wedding planner and Kandi’s gays are unknown. Atlanta is the gayest of the HW’s franchises! LOL

        • California35 says:

          lol – thanks Amber…eveyone has a gay 😛 I had one also, but we just fell apart. I just thoguht I threw that one out there too 😛

          The one I remember the most are Lawrence and Dwight, I do remember Kim having one, but can’t remember what he looks like.

          By the way – I like Bethenny’s 🙂

          Is the NJ the only one without a gay?

  35. klmh says:

    Dear God,
    All I ask for in 2011 is a big fat bank account and a slim body…please don’t mix these up like you did last year.

    Amen

  36. twoile says:

    @k rotfl………& oh so true=)

  37. boston02127 says:

    I can’t believe that not one of Kim’s friends or anyone who works for her will tell her what a fool she looks like when she thinks she’s doing a concert type appearance and she’s just doing a sing a long. My bff would be on the floor laughing and begging me to stop.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Kim is a prima dona and they surround themselves with people who want to please.

    • mariareads says:

      I know! Does she have no clue? She is HORRIBLE! Can’t keep a melody/note.
      She smokes to top it all off. I cringe when I hear her and feel like running out of the room. It’s kind of embarrassing to watch.

  38. klmh says:

    Lynn:

    Could you explain your declaration that Taylor does nothing. Could you back this up with some statements/stats? Thanks.

    Thank you to @Tweatcyn my Twitter buddy for this link that should clear up any questions about what Taylor Armstrong of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills does for her husband‘s business:

    http://tl.gd/87flg7

    Nothing, that’s what Taylor does, nothing, she’s got a title and nothing else.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO – Russell put up the money, Taylor gets to be President (look at her resume she doesn’t have an IT background/degree, she is top cheese of a couple of charitable things and once upon a time she was a saleswoman). Of all the deal/things Russell is into it is not surprising that Taylor is involved in some of them – after all, their marriage is 80% business and this is likely a topic they can have conversations about.

      • klmh says:

        That’s true. If the relationship is 80% business, there is something she adds to it. jmo
        I don’t know what it is about Taylor, maybe her sad eyes or something. Maybe its because she is from my home state and I want to support her. I don’t remember seeing maids and nannies at her home, but I haven’t really looked. She may be a housewife as well as a business partner.
        Thanks for your opinions.

    • Katie says:

      READ THIS because I went back as painful as it was I watched the scene again to confirm – so I did my homework before posting.

      1st – Taylor is arm candy for her husband at HIS business events there is no work a paid escort could not accomplish.

      2nd – That link to the consulting firm site where Taylor is listed as the founder/exec is Bullshit for two reasons. There are 100’s of consulting firms that claim they can consult with the big companies referenced. I know this because it is part of the industry I support. But the legit firms have customer references and their websites don’t look like some hack job.

      So let’s just pretend it’s a legit firm – connect the dots! When I saw the name DWIGHT listed as the CEO of this (cough) consulting firm it triggered a memory of a DWIGHT on the show who was introduced to us sorry viewers and this is where I went back to watch the whole Birthday party scene and sure enough DWIGHT IS TAYLOR’S HALF BROTHER who obviously put her on the shingle to give her some purpose in life. HOW PATHETIC! I also watched Dwight have some not so nice words for Russell at the party.

      So now I’m betting it was Russell’s money that he handed to these nitwits to start this Podunk consulting firm with no named accounts! Brilliant!!!!

      • klmh says:

        Thank you for posting. I don’t have a clue as to what these companies do.
        Adrienne is tied to the Maloof family. Since she has family ties within her business, does this mean she doesn’t really have a job? I think I know what you are saying, but many people work together as a family and the ties are much stronger, don’t you think? My great friend has his family involved in all of his ventures. He enjoys the company, but also trusts them, because they have a vested interest in his corporations.
        You surely could be right, but these are good guesses, but guesses none the less.
        I appreciate you taking the time to go back to these events though. Thanks.

        • Katie says:

          When I saw the website I actually thought I would see something more substantial but the website looks like a store front with no products on the shelf. I find it very hard to believe that Taylor as any meaningful role in this consulting firm. These types of consultants and independent firms typically travel the majority of the time to get business and actually do the job. It’s not a go to the office and put in 9 -5. But maybe her role is local and does not involve the actual work with clients.

          If the firm is legit and actually making money I’m betting Taylor is just a name and financial supporter/investor that earned her the executive title (But I still bet it was Russell’s money).

          I think there is a big difference in Taylor’s family business and the role that Adrienne plays in the Maloof family business which is obviously more than a store front and all the kids from what I read are equal share holders (or close to it).

          But of course all IMHO

        • I’ve posted all their bios and links to their sites, facebook, twitter, etc … click on their names on the masthead (taylor and adrienne): http://www.stoopidhousewives.com

          Did you know: Adrienne wa sone of the US top ranked junior tennis players and went on to play collegiate tennis at the University of New Mexico, where she earned a bachelor’s degree in political science.

      • California35 says:

        Wow Katie great research a post about Taylor. When I went to their website, I was surprise to see that it was for IT. I read only part of the business statement about guiding comapanies, etc. (I can’t remember now – I should have done homework too :-P) But I thought “IT”???!!! She is IT?!!!?? Maybe the sales person or accounts manager, but wonder who was really the IT person – Russell? He could have the IT employees and he didn’t do the actual work any more. I don’t know, I just let it go though – weird.

        • quincyil says:

          In the 90’s, there were a lot of these IT /dot coms that came out of no where and sold for high prices, but I think people stopped investing in them.

          How does Russel Armstrong go from bankruptcy to their life style in just a few years? Are there so many investment opportunities these days? I just don’t know how he was able to do that in such a short time.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        My husband is a web designer and has worked with some big time clients. That sight is so bad. Bad design, bad stock photo and bad 1990’s style. If I showed this to him he was either laugh or start a rant about how bad the design looks.

        • twoile says:

          @M I’m far from a web d-ziner & I recognized how yucky it was 4 a Real Business! If taylor is “employed” here it appears 2 b a front 4 her 2 receive a cheque. JMHO

      • buffywood says:

        This is actually what I do for a living. I used to have my own consulting firm until I went to work full time for one of my clients. In my case “having my own consulting firm” is a fancy way of saying I worked for myself as an independent consultant. I mainly work in the spa/health club/hospitality industry. I don’t think that link provided could have used anymore industry buzz words if they tried.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          I had my first mammogram last Jan. They sent me to a breast surgeon because I have a lump but I couldn’t get in until April. While my drama was going on my mother-in-law was dx with stage 2. She was the one who made me promise to get my mammogram done in the first place. (She usually is not pushy but was this time.)The surgeon took a wait and see approach and I had a check up six months later. He says it looked fine and had not changed. But they cannot rule out cancer without a biopsy, but he states that it does not have the characteristics of cancer. So, I’m going back in 3 months but I kinda don’t like the guy. He doesn’t specialize in breast cancer, he is actually a general surgeon. Apparently I don’t qualify to see the high risk surgeon. Where I live you don’t have many choices that I can find unless you want to drive 4 or 5 hours.

          Lynn, if buffywood would be interested in chatting with me please feel free to give her my e-mail address.

          • justanothermary says:

            Please get a second opinion and get it NOW. If you’re not comfortable with your doctor, get another. This is not something to fool around with. Please, please, please.

              • Mookies1mom says:

                I am planning on it. I just have to find one that is not involved with the same hospital/healthcare system that he is with. This healthcare system is very prevalent in my area. (I live in a very rural area and this healthcare system is the only option that I know of, since I’ve only been in the area for a little over a year.) But I am definitely looking for a breast specialist not a general surgeon with an interest in BC even if I have to drive a long distance.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Opps! Put that last entry in the wrong place.

          Buffywood, You are so right about the buzz words. My hubby worked for several agencies, started his own (with couple of other guys) and left the group for many reasons. He has been freelance for the most part ever since. He has worked with all kinds of clients. You two could probably have some great conversations and understand the geek speak! LOL I try but some of it is over my head!

      • Sparkles says:

        Good insights regarding Taylor’s business, eimplement. I agree about the “storefront” look – the site has stock photos, lots of vague buzzwords/jargon, and doesn’t name any of their clients or include any testimonials.

        I can’t find any news about the company except for mentions of it in regard to Taylor and also a press release.

        It is possible that the company consists of Taylor — who basically serves as the name to get prospective clients in the door — and her friend, who is to do the actual work.

  39. Katie says:

    Holy Shit!

    Bravo posted a preview teaser clip of the HW Beverly Hills Reunion! Holy F!

    Lynn you can create a whole new blog on this one clip.

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-1/videos/an-explosive-reunion

    Someone please watch this so we can discuss!

    I don’t like Kyle, feelk bad for Kim and knew Cedric was trouble!!!

    • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

      Only one word comes to mind right now – WOW!

    • AZ Girl says:

      Ken is talking about Cedric? If he is then it is “Wow”.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Poor Kim. She had no business being on this show. She has too many serious problems that need to be dealt with privately.

      • California35 says:

        I wonder if that is why Kyle isn’t happy with her. Maybe she would have liked to be the only one on the show, but somehow Kim asked or someone asked for her to be in it. Having Kim around bring a bad side of Kyle (and Camille).

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Oh, let the games begin! This will be a fun reunion. Camille will say she was set up to be the bad guy, Adrienne will have little to say, Lisa will get to the bottom of the Taylor/Kim gossipfest, Taylor won’t go down without a fight, Kyle will loose her temper and Kim will be the victim. Love that Ken is going to throwdown on Cedric.

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

        I hate that Camille is saying she was bullied. So tired of hearing that word used in context with the housewives.

        • Katie says:

          I agree, but I do think the odds were against her going into this show, she just fell for it and the cameras ate it up. I don’t think it takes much to get her going and Bravo struck gold. But in the big picture of what else that clip reveals the whole Kyle vs. Camille thing is so 3rd grade and a waste of time. Let’s get to the real stuff like Taylor being a fake and trouble maker, Cedric being a loser and Kim’s unfortunate real problems and her sister Kyle’s abusive behavior.

      • quincyil says:

        Cedric seems so manipulative going to Lisa after her husband had talked to him.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          If even half of Cedric’s tale of woe is true he knows how to manipulate people to his own advantage. Lisa has a big heart and Ken wants her happy. From what is said by Ken in the reunion promo clip – Cedric went for maximum hurt as his parting shot – seeing Lisa’s face said it all.

        • California35 says:

          Poor Lisa, if that is the way Cedric acted. Even if they told him to leave…he should not be that way. They helped him for a long time AND Lisa seems very affected by this.

          I remember that when she asked about him on WWHL once, she said that he wasn’t in their house any more, or something like that but she really didn’t elavorate.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Wonder if Cedric’s hair piece gets torn off….:) That thing is really funky

    • Katie says:

      But if Kim does have a drinking problem ALL THE MORE REASON Kyle should back off!

      In the clip it shows Kyle physically going after Kim (NENE THUG STYLE going for her throat) that is just sad and makes me really pissed off at Kyle.

      Lisa looks like she comes to Kyle defense and brings up the whole drinking problem – IF Lisa doesn’t defend or call out Kyle for her aggressive behavior towards Kim I will not be a fan of Lisa.

      Who else can Ken be talking about?

    • klmh says:

      Oh KATIE,
      Thanks for the clip. Good Golly Miss Molly! Geez, I started to tear up watching Lisa’s husband. Looking forward to the reunion.
      Thanks again for posting!

    • California35 says:

      speechless…thanks for posting this…It is a sad reunion. Bravo showed a lot on this preview. I will be recording and hopefully watching it live or the same night. The recap and board will be a good one also….I can’t wait!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And we still have the final RHBH episode this week! For the record – this franchise has delivered it’s rookie year.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Holy F*** balls.

      I’m a bit concerned about Lisa’s implication (or so it seemed) that Kim has a drinking problem- only because it reminds me of the story that Lisa was trying to get Kim kicked off the show because of it.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Lisa tried to get Kim kicked off the show? When was this? How did I miss that?

        • Katie says:

          I missed that too.

          Find it hard to believe that Lisa would have such great support for the sponge that Cedric is but Lisa (who if she is correct about Lisa) is calling Kim out for a legit problem.

          Something seems off about this.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            If Kim was showing up drunk/self medicated and talking nonsense – Lisa would not want her to make a fool of herself on tv. Lisa is maternal not malicious.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            There was a link to some story a while ago, it was very unflattering of Lisa. From what I remember the were saying that she turned into a Diva- and she would snap her fingers when she spoke to people, sh tossed Cedric out of the house and was trying to get Kim kicked off of the show because she was a ‘recovering’ alcoholic and she didn’t want be associated with someone with a problem because she thought it was bad press.

            Then there was a post by someone saying they were KENNITH TODD and they were going to sue.

            I think it was around the time there was an episode about Lisa’s son recovering from a drug problem because I remember commenting how I didn’t see her doing that given how she just disclosed her son’s battle.

            For the record, if Kim (and I believe she does) have a substance abuse problem, I don’t think Lisa would try to get her kicked off the show in an evil Jill Zarin way.

            I feel that it would be more geared towards having trepidations about Kim being on a show like this and the toll it might take on someone who is battling for sobriety -the same way she did about her son going to a music academy in the heart of Hollywood.

      • California35 says:

        Really? I feel bad for Kim 😦

    • If You Had It Like This says:

      Wowza! That’s gonna be something! I cannot wait. I’m having some mixed feelings about Lisa. She’s been one of my favorites but I think she has always treated Kim condescendingly and I’m not going to like it if she calls her out on the carpet on her addiction like that. Not cool. I’m thinking there could be a bit of a backlash against Kyle and Lisa after the last episode and reunion. Lisa and Jill Z have been snuggling up a bit on twitter lately. They had lunch at Villa Blanca when Jill was out there.

      • I was weirded out seeing those pictures of Lisa with Jill
        at lunch. something about it did not sit well with me,

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Foghorn had to have invited herself to lunch and Lisa is not rude. It’s like the Caroline thing – Jill goes for the matriarch.

        • Adgirl says:

          I agree. Lisa would not be rude if Jill reached out to her. Why start a “thing” with Jill by avoiding her?

        • HD says:

          Good clip. I didn’t hear any of them say Cedric. I think it was about an altercation he and his wife had at some restrurant. You know Bravo likes to make things appear like they are a certain way and they are not.

          • klmh says:

            Lisa’s husband mentioned the person hating his children. Im afraid it’s closer to home base than the fellow in the restaurant.

            • HD says:

              Yeah…I heard that I hate your kids line too. I just was trying to picture Cedric saying that and I couldn’t. Maybe I am a sucker for a hard luck story. I hope he did not say that. That would be really low.

            • Sparkles says:

              I think Ken is speaking about Cedric too. This looks to be quite upsetting.

              I like seeing Kim stand up to Taylor though!

              • klmh says:

                Thats interesting. I thought Taylor was the only one Kim felt she could stand up to, because she has confronted her a few times. Once at the table in NYC, once at the table at Camille’s, and it looks like once at Taylor’s party. It seems from the first show, Kim hasn’t liked Taylor. Wonder if something happened on the flight over or at the basketball game?
                She didn’t say anything to Lisa when L. told her she was being rude not to have called her date to thank him for the drive home. She also hasn’t confronted Kyle, but she knows what will happen when she does, and I don’t blame her, yikes!

  40. Michelle Shaniqua Obama says:

    I look forward to the end of the ghetto Housewives of Atlanta.

    • California35 says:

      I look forward to its end so that we can move on to NY 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      RHoA has always been difficult for me to sustain interest in for the entire season. And I am definately waiting for RHNY to start up too!

    • from lynn's post above says:

      “MichelleShaniquaObama
      Submitted on 2011/01/17 at 8:37 pm

      Some of these women are quick to bring up the issue of race. I think that has more to do with their own insecurities. Most white people I know do not go around thinking about race 24/7.”

      For those of you who have been around a while, you may remember our old friend Upper West Side Dude who left the blog a few months ago after insulting a number of us. He’s baaaack….

      Sorry to “out” you UWSD, maybe you should have just came back as yourself? Those posts back in October when you used the name “Tre” were just rude! You should know better! Have a nice day…

  41. Kat says:

    Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama

  42. boston02127 says:

    OT–Does anyone know the name of the hugh candy bar that comes in a big triangle box? It’s about as long as a ruler. It’s called something like Tubullonie.

  43. lillybee says:

    I am so pleased that Simon got a web show. I would have loved to see Jill’s face when she heard about it.

  44. Adgirl says:

    After watching the BH reunion clip, I recalled that Lisa and Kyle were friends prior to RH. I think Lisa knows a lot about Kim that we haven’t been privy to.

    BTW- could anyone understand what Adrienne said at the top of the clip?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      To me it sounded like stop it don’t touch her.

    • error404 says:

      I think Lisa is a loyal friend, and as a friend of Kyle I’m sure she’s heard Kyle’s side of the story for many years now. What I don’t like is the way Lisa has been dropping hints and passive-agressive digs toward Kim all season long. There’s always two sides to every story, and Lisa should have a better agenda for her stint on this show that ‘prove what a saint poor Kyle Richards is’.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        It’s like she’s defending “poor, put upon Kyle”. She only knows one half of the story and is annoyed by Kim. Who knows what barbaric behaviour Kyle has left out of her tales of woe, so Lisa just sees the suffering caused by a promise made on a deathbed. Lisa is the friend who will go to bat, but may have a little egg on her face once she sees how Kyle really behaves with Kim.

      • If You Had It Like This says:

        Yeah, I’m not buying the Saint Kyle thing. I like Kyle a lot but I think her temper is on a hair trigger. She’s a little aggro. And why is she always licking her lips? My husband pointed it out to me, which cracks me up because he pretends he doesn’t watch.

  45. boston02127 says:

    Toblerone! That’s the name of the candy! Thanks guys. When my mom was sick if I I had classes or work I would need someone to come sit with her. Sometimes my aunt would be running late. I have an elderly neighbor that would come over and sit with my mom for a while until my aunt would arrive. Long story short. I made her a little gift basket and put one of those in it and she called me tonight and asked me what kind of candy bar that was. I went blank. Her and her husband loved it, she wants to try and make them. I’ll tell her tomorrow. Maybe I’ll buy her one (and me).

  46. Adgirl says:

    Reviews of Villa Blanca. It sounds so nice! Let’s have the Lynn Fam Reunion there!

  47. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet: Who doesn’t love kellyland: kids, animals, love, sports, and a whole lotta fun. Ur invited http://yfrog.com/h4n6jifj

    Kel Kel, I know you read this blog. Just so you know, I’d rather be on a island with rabid animals and people eating cannabals than to be in Kellyland. Stop flattering yourself, you’re dumb. Period.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      When I think of Kellyland, for some reason I get the impression it’s like one big neverending yeast infection. Mebbe because Kels doesn’t look terribly “cleansy” as Teresa would say.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      I would rather sit in a pit of rattlesnakes than go to kellyland. She just needs to shut up, take some med.s and go to therapy. Maybe something inpatient rather than out patient because she seems to have some enablers around her.

    • error404 says:

      I hope someone tweeted back “Just take your f-ing meds already!!!”

      • vilzvet says:

        LOL, the comment was too funny! And hasn’t it been sheer bliss to NOT see her on TV the past few months (except for the reruns)? When I think of the reunion shows I still get pissed thinking of her denying her problems and what happened in St. John. Don’t miss her or Jill, it’s been heaven. But hell will be starting again soon I guess!

  48. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Jill will be in Chicago on Sunday. LOL

    Jillzarin: Come meet @lisawexler and I Sun. at Saks Chicago!http://www.secretsofajewishmother.com/

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Why Chicago? Does Saks NYC no longer let Jz return merch there? So she’s trying out exchanges in new cities? In disguise? Oh Lisa, you enabler you. tch.

      8)

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Hope she gets stuck in Bears game day traffic, the airline looses her luggage and no one shows up to met her.

        • quincyil says:

          Jill and her sister are trying to sell the books from the Zarin Family collection of books. They need the space for the bedding collection and the girdle collection.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Just like Jill Z. She thinks she can compete with the Bears/Pack playoff game. Yup we are all going to head to Saks and meet Jill and Lisa and buy their crap.

  49. Adgirl says:

    AbsurdtoSublime:
    It’s rather unusual for Bravo to release a clip of an upcoming reunion episode, and this clip is particularly provocative. There has been speculation, whispers and rumors…but nothing substantiated, about Kim Richards’ various visits to rehab for alcohol addiction. In real time, Kim has not been seen in any of the pictures of the housewives since July.

    It makes sense, as Kyle Richards has spoken of their mother dying and her being asked to take care of Kim, and what a burden it has been for her. On the other hand, they all rode the Kim Richards gravy train back in the 70’s and 80’s, when Kim was a child star.

    Interest piqued? You betcha! The reunion will air on Bravo January 27.

    http://absurdtosublime.net/

  50. tweatcyn says:

    Camille’s book”The Art of Whor”

  51. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    “Why would you do that NeNe? Because when you’re fun, you’re hilarious but when you’re angry you are unreasonable and argumentative. ” Lynn this could apply to any one of us at any given time or day doesnt mean she or any one of us needs anger management courses
    was there ever a person she should have been more angry with then Greg and yet we didnt see them get into it too much
    Kim is obnoxious enough to make mother Theresa wanna throw down
    and please enough of the Andy bashing
    his original goals in life werent to become a talk show host and for one as untrained in the field he seems to pull it off quite nicely
    and after all its all about the ratings and his are quite high
    you dont fix what isnt broken and of course it seems rushed its only 30 minutes well actually less if you count the commercials

    • error404 says:

      Yeah, I’m not sure about all of the “Why isn’t Andy Cohen David Frost?” stuff… WWHL is just twitter for tv, another excuse to cross promote. As a “talk show” it really serves no purpose other than to give “Bravolebrities” one more chance to be lying without trying. Really? Camille’s bogus bs 30 second excuses like “I was bullied” are suppose to be expounded on, so we get a full minute of “I was bullied. The whole season was a set up to make me look bad.”. Pfft

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Andy’s show looks like a 70’s basement with no liquor cabinet! It reminds me of the time Kramer found the old Merv Griffin set and decided to “play” talk show host. That was my favorite Seinfeld episode ever.

  52. DJ Fruit Loops says:

    2. Andy wants someone in Internet land to mash a video of a baby Elephant playing on a beach with someone whipping their hair. I’m sure the next morning Andy’s inbox was full of videos.

    Uh Lynn that Someone is Willow Smith, the nine-year-old daughter of actors Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith her single I whip My Hair is HUGE i mean H U G E
    and you are right the next morning a bunch of well known dj’s had done a video for Andy
    its the magic of TV

  53. quincyil says:

    I love how the members of this board bring new ideas and links to the site to share with others. Thanks for sharing your research, I really enjoy reading posts here.

    • MSU Chicago says:

      Isn’t it great?! I think it is awesome that ladies and gents come on here and discuss the ridicudockle things that are going on in “reality tv”. I am in awe when I read about the relationships of the people that post here that have been made. The thing the most that I appreciate about this blog is that people can come on this blog and state what the want to. It is a testament to this site, that when people disagree, they are able to post here. To the people who have left the site, I think they should come back, because this is the free speech of the Housewives site. Even a Zarin fan would be welcomed here, as long as he/she doesn’t troll around (I hope I am not overstepping my bounds by saying that, but I don’t think I am, especially because of the potential banter).

      • quincyil says:

        I think there are a number of board members who have stated that they don’t hate Jill Zarin and they are members in good standing. I don’t hate her. There are specific behaviors that Jill has that I dislike. I don’t hate any of the housewives.

        The only rule here is to not attack a fellow poster. That leaves so much space for being able to discuss freely.

        • MSU Chicago says:

          And exactly what you stated makes the blog a good place to discuss the housewives. Board members, or non board members, people are allowed to state what they feel about the various housewives. That is a good thing. I have never stated an affinity for Jill, so I am with you.

        • Sparkles says:

          I don’t hate Jill Zarin. I’m not a fan, but she isn’t my least favorite HW either.

          One of the interesting things about this site is seeing how differently we react to various HWs.

          For example, I really can’t stand Gretchen. I think she is totally fake, dishonest, and the worst sort of gold digger. But I get the impression that I’m in the minority on that one.

          Kyle seems to get quite mixed reactions. So far I like her and think her relationship with Kim is complex…neither one seems to be “right” or “wrong.”

          Taylor gets a mixed reaction too, though not as strong. Personally, I don’t trust her or respect her values.

          That’s what makes it interesting, I guess.

          • MSU Chicago says:

            I agree about Kyle. I am intrigued about hearing the real thing betweem Kim and Kyle, because there is some problem with that relationship. We know that Kim is going to be agreeing to the fact that she is an alcoholic. I hope she is ok.

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              Alcoholism will go a long way in explaining the scenes and behavior between the sisters. Sounds like Kim was forced into rehab – hope it works for everyone’s sake.

              • quincyil says:

                This is so true. Alcoholism destroys more than your liver. It destroys your relationships with your children, your parents and your siblings. You can not control another person and that is the problem between Kim and Kyle. Kyle wants to control Kim and that will never happen.

          • Error404 says:

            Absolutely!

            What’s funny to me is that we also seem to read this site differently too. Lol

            Ex: I swear I’ve never once read a single positive thing about “wretchen” here. It’s like usually , as izaak said of TFS last night “I don’t like it enough to hate it” lol

            But when we doing remember Gretchen, it’s only to mention what an awful human being she is.

            I think sometimes we get trapped on a “the enemy if my enemy is my friend” misunderstanding. For ex. Hating Simon is not liking Gretchen. I’m an equal opportunity hater. Lol

            And, I’ll just add that one of the first things I disliked about taylor was that she reminded me of Gretchen.

            • Sparkles says:

              Error, ITA w/you on the “enemy of my enemy” tendancy with reality TV.

              I am fairly new to the site so I didn’t realize that Wretchen had a bunch of detractors here. Glad to to hear it, LOL!

          • Adgirl says:

            Gretchen … ugh. In fact the entire OC group is pretty awful and I may stop watching them altogether. The Gretchen Slade death star really eats my soul.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            No- I can’t stand Gretchen either.
            It’s just that when Tamra goes after her- it’s hard not to be on her side since Tamra is no better. She hates that Grethhen knocked her off the ‘hottest housewife’ totem pole- Vickie is the same way since every new woman who joins the further down she goes.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The bankruptsy petition process must be different in California than New Jersey….as we wait and wait for a verdict for the Guidices. Interesting, very interesting.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        According to the article, he filed for Chapter 13 and failed to include all the required schedules and information. That was the reason for denial.

      • The continuation of the Joo-dice’s bankruptcy hearing is scheduled for July 14. Joe Mastropole is hoping that the judge will disallow their home to be protected as his money was funneled into the house while he and juicy were business partners.

  54. boston02127 says:

    Season after season of the Real Housewives franchise has taught us to tolerate the insipid spa scenes and insufferable cackling for one reason: The plumped-up reunion episodes. And based on the latest promo for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills two-part reunion (airing on Jan. 27 and Feb. 1), this one will make waves at the water-cooler. Though the beginning of the promo is indistinguishable from a Mad Men teaser — with various cast members saying ambiguous things like, “Keep it straight,” “You started the fight,” and “You compared yourself to Jesus” (It’s the new “Shut the door!“) — the rest of the trailer is plenty juicy: Bullying accusations, alcoholism suspicions, and talk of just how much boob you can show before you are no longer considered a nun. Also: The much-reviled Camille Grammer uses the oldest excuse in the book for her behavior: “This whole season was set up to make me look bad.” Yawn.

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/01/18/real-housewives-beverly-hills-reunion-promo/

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      We have sat through the bad (DC), laughted at the ridicious (ATL), recoiled at the violence (NJ), glazed at the plastic fantasy (BH) and wait patiently for the NY to return. Sorry I didn’t include the OC – I realize it was the first but it has never held my attention. So maybe we are on overload? We know the scripts of the unscripted reality wives – do we need an intervention?

      • MSU Chicago says:

        I am with you, never an OC fan. I was surprised that I gave NY a chance. Why, o why!!! We may need an intervention, but I think we’ll be ok, because we have snark!!

      • Adgirl says:

        Intervention? But it hurts so good….

  55. AZ Girl says:

    IMHO I believe the OC Housewives first 2 seasons were fun. I liked the fact that all the gals were friends and had some real connection.
    Now the “ick” factor with Gretchen, Slade, Tamara, Taliban Jim and his submissive wife Alexis has risen to new high. Bravo brought back Jeana hopefully to even out all these other morons.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Too many blondes with the same ambition – I couldn’t keep them straight! lol

    • Adgirl says:

      Ever since Tamra has been on the show has been worse. I don’t hate her, it just the tone of the show has deteriorated.

      Laurie Peterson is saved by a knight in shining armour was the highlight of OC and that was what – season 2?

      • quincyil says:

        Tamara is beautiful, but beauty does fade. Sometimes, I wonder if Simon was pushed over the edge by Tamara’s desire to be the sexiest housewife in Orange County. I believe Simon was a high end car salesmen during the book of the 90s. So she had his best income producing years and when the economy failed, she called him a failure. What does that say about Tamara?

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          The rumor in the OC is that Simon was ‘let go’ from Fletcher Jone’s forgiving too many favorable discounts to housewife’s and the like.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Saved from the wicked witch Vicki.

  56. Pantry Viewer says:

    Morning everyone! Just one more sleep before tomorrow’s BH show! Well, not looking forward to Kyle going after Kim – that makes me ill at the thought. But looking forward to the rest.

    It’s making me sad to see the speculation of Kim having alcohol issues. The way Kyle and Taylor have treated her has infuriated me this season. To know that they know she has an alcohol issue and to continue to treat her badly makes me sadder.

    I guess I identify with Kim’s social awkwardness, but still wanting to fit in. Sometimes I can be the lift of the party and sometimes I am so awkward – it’s weird. I have seen my share of social snots who treat those they “look down on” for whatever made-up reason be ugly to those less comfortable just because they can and it just makes me mad.

    Anyway, maybe Taylor will be confronted tonight and I can be happy – LOL!

    • klmh says:

      I hate the sisters going after each other on nat’l Tv. This is something that is now a forever moment for their children and all to see. I have no idea why these sisters would want to air their dirty laundry on Tv, it just boggles the mind.

      I was wondering though why some people here feel that Kim, and her possible alcoholism, should be given a pass. She has been paid to do these shows, she has had this problem, if she is the one that has it, for years. When you are around a drunk, you get fed up after a while, and treating them with kid gloves is not the answer.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        I totally get what you’re saying, klmh. I thought about that after I made my post. You are right, being around a drunk is draining and a drag. My mom, for example! I totally get that.

        My irritation with how Kim has been treated so far this season (without knowing she could possibly have an alcohol problem) is just my person pet-peeve. When in a group situation, if someone is obviously awkward or not as confident as others, I tend to naturally try to make some effort to make them feel included. I don’t understand how in some group situations those that may feel awkward should be “picked on” or excluded or shunned. Just my personal pet peeve.

        I obviously may need some therapy on that issue since I keep harping on it – LOL!

        I suppose since we haven’t seen evidence of Kim’s drunken behavior, it is hard for me to get on board with those exasperated with her without seeing evidence of why, kwim?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Kim reminds me of a childhood friend’s mom – a functional alcoholic. It was a sad situation and left a great impression on me.
          During the season, there was something off in Kim’s behavior – her mannerisms, gibberish conversations, unfocused eyes, verbal outbursts. I don’t think less of her because it is a disease and it can be treated. Maybe Kyle wanted her on the show to pull her away from the bottle. Maybe Kim was showing up to shoots loaded and filming was very difficult -she sounded messed up in many of her talking head shots. For the sake of her children and herself, I hope she has gotten help.

        • klmh says:

          I understand where you are coming from with Kim. She seems to be the outsider and has been since the beginning of the show. She has admitted she just isn’t comfy around people unless she gets to know them. Im like you though. When I see someone left out, I gravitate to them and it’s usually really fun and interesting to talk with someone brand new.

      • error404 says:

        OK, here’s my “excuse”.

        As pantrydweller says, living with addicts in real life is draining.

        But that doesn’t excuse the blatant hypocracy that drives most of these housewives. A bunch of two faced people who love to throw rocks while living in glass houses if ever I saw one.

        So, living with Kelsey has made Camille a saint. Jesus without the penis. And now, living with Kim has made Kyle a saint too. Meanwhile, it’s perfectly ok for all of them to go around lying, starting fights, manipulating and doing all sorts of awful things to each other, but that’s cool. No, it’s those addicts that are unworthy of forgiveness.

        It’s just like Atlanta, where they all have kids out of wedlock, marry for money only, and then verbally abuse each otehr at every turn, not that’s ok. No, it’s Kim sleeping with a guy who’s separated form his wife but not divorced that’s unforgivable. They bring up Big Pappa like every single episode of proof that Kim is evil. Whatever. Clean your own house first!

        Or NYC. A group of women not one of whom seem to be able to walk from the kitchen to the bedroom without alerting the media, yet all feel the need to call Bethenny a “media whore” every chance they get.

        • klmh says:

          Oh, I don’t expect anything from these ladies, and Im not disappointed. Just bringing my life experiences her to comment and enjoy other peoples ideas, posts and thoughts.

          I love to read your posts, but this is taking this discussion over the top and beyond, don’t you think? All I am saying is, there a few on this board that seem offended that if Kim does have a drinking problem, she should be held to a different standard. Kim like all the others on these shows, is responsible for her actions, whether sober or drunk, because she chose it.

        • Pantry Viewer says:

          Ah, yes, another layer of my feelings exactly! I totally get what you’re saying and agree.

        • If You Had It Like This says:

          Amen Error! They are all two-faced and they are all media whores and fame addicts or they wouldn’t be on these shows and we wouldn’t be watching.

  57. WindyCityWondering says:

    While we have double the snarkfest, I am not sure that I like two HW franchises running at the same time. I find myself thinking about what will happen next on the other one. In fact, the blogs on Tabitha, Patty, Top Chefs and Fashion Show are a welcomed relief from all things housewives. And then there is WWHL or the Andy show as I see it….sometimes it was good, most times it is bad and now it is just too much Andy.

    • California35 says:

      I have been thinking that – why do they do two at a time??! Let’s all focus on one, finish it and go to the next…please!! 😛
      I have only heard of the NY one coming up in Feb – is there another one? Or is Bethenny’s their pick instead? If they have two HW and Bethenny’s I will be going crazy with too much Bravo lol

  58. twoile says:

    OT just wanted 2 share a bit of DC related info….2day on HDTV “Get It Sold” one of the featured RE agents was Stacie…..seems as though the cross over between channels/& shows is a bit of “lazy” programing as well as individuals who crave the tv experience. Stacie looks much younger here so it was definately pre-bravo.

    • Cusi77 says:

      I have seen that episode. You are right. Stacie looks younger… if I recall well it was filmed in 2007-2008. I will check when it comes in Western time. Thanks for the heads up!

  59. error404 says:

    http://therealoc2nyc2atl.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-01-09T20%3A18%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=10

    “Kyle is probably referencing her sister, housewife Kim Richards. Their eldest sister is Kathy Hilton, mother of Nicky and Paris Hilton. During the show’s filming, both feuding Richards sisters made plenty of phone calls to Kathy in which one sister would be on one line and the other sister on the other line.”

    Oh dear God, this family! lol My eldest sister and my Mom tried doing this to me once, and I squashed it real quick by not answering their calls for a while.

    “Camille Grammer was supposed to join Lisa and Kyle for the interview, but she was “stuck in traffic.” But Lisa did further cement the idea that it was Camille’s husband, Kelsey, who pushed for her to be on the show. Not only did he push, “He phoned the producers and actually said ‘Make it happen.'””

    Whatever. Words words words that say nothing. This in no way negates a scenario in which Camille desperately wanted to be on the show and just nag nag nagged her husband to death urging him to pull some strings and assure her a spot on the show.

  60. tweatcyn says:

    @AdGirl “The Gretchen Slade death star eats my soul” ROFLMAO! Thanks to all who explained very well why we concluded Taylor is merely a figurehead at “Her Little Company” as her own husband condescendingly called it. I think it’s sole purpose is a tax write-off and to drive business to Russell’s Gordon Gecko type of business. She sold drugs for Pfizer and glucose monitors for Medtronic before that. Does not qualify her to consult in high level information systems technology. Far-fetched.

  61. Cusi77 says:

    To True Life Diva and OneMoreInBoston:

    Wall Street Lady, Boston, Quincy and I have been preparing a great Wedding for you!

    The music is ready: @Wall street Lady has been taking singing classes with Kim
    @Quincy has been helped by Mrs, Ape with styling the barn.
    Drinks are coming great! @Boston found big help with the advice of Kiki
    I have been taking cooking classes with Phaedra… so FOOD will be exquisite! Martha Stewart pale in comparison with Phaedra kitchen skills!

  62. Here’s how RHOBH started… Bravo pared it down to 10 and went with the 6 that are now on the show:
    http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/01/19/a-look-back-at-rhobh-from-casting-to-filming/

    Also… before the show, Taylor was known as ‘Taylor Ford Armstrong’

  63. tweatcyn says:

    I recently saw an s1 RHOC episode and the filming wasn’t as slick/produced and was more REAL than now. I prefered the original seasons of OC and NY for that reason. RE: Gold-digger Cedric. How many Martinez’ are French do you suppose? Why doesn’t he have a French accent? His more formative years were spent grifting with his mother, stealing and conning and begging (his words) so why would we expect different behavior from him? I heard he has “been with” Lance Bass and Marc Jacobs in his quest to find his next keeper.

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