I Hate Jill Zarin The Fashion Show Jan 19, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin The Fashion Show – Guest Blog Jan 19, 2010

Thanks to Quincy for another great guest blog, has it been nine weeks already?

Quincy, it says they have to create 9 fashions in 7 days? Wow, I can see some nervous

The Fashion Show Week Nine

Jeffrey and Dominique are lamenting the loss of their fellow designer, Eduardo. Dominique does not want to work with Calvin. Calvin tells us that “Eduardo was good designer, but only one dimension. Never expect him to be in final.” “The fashion mail” envelopes are slipped under the door. “Inspiration is in the air. Meet me at Pier 62. Iman”

Iman meets the final four: Calvin and Dominique of the House of Nami and Cesar and Jeffrey of the House of Emerald on the pier. Iman tells them that this is the last challenge as a house. The House of Nami has won 4 challenges. The House of Emerald has won only two. The prizes for the two designers of the winning house in this challenge will be a car for each and a place for each in the final challenge.

There is a boat with the name “Manhattan” that will take the four around the Statue of Liberty so that the designers will find inspiration with earth, air and water. Calvin is excited and happy. Calvin tells us, “All of my Feng Shui study, all of my ancient culture, and all the thing it flash right through my head.” The designers will have one hour to experience earth, air and water from the boat in order to come up with their design.

Jeffrey is inspired by the horizon and the meeting of air and water. The House of Emerald will use greens and blues to create 4 beautiful gowns with fabrics that move like the sea with the wind. The House of Nami is under the control of Calvin. Dominique feels that her best opportunity to win is to go with Calvin’s concept. She is clearly unhappy, but she wants to win. Calvin tells us, “The concept hit me and come to me on the boat ride alone. You have to pick the colors. The ancient Chinese black represents water, brown earth, white air.”

Mood Boards

Cesar feels that the House of Emerald is “two peas in a pod.” Jeffrey has picked a crown from the vintage store as the accessory that he will use in the collection this week as his prize for winning the previous challenge. The crown is large, gold in color and gaudy. Cesar loves working with Jeffrey and tells us that “he’s got my back.” Isaac loves their colors and concepts.

The House of Nami explains their color choice of camel, black and white. Calvin and Dominique describe their pieces as structural and use the word, “fluidity.” Dominique confides that she feels a lot of pressure. Isaac tells her, “You do best when you enjoy the process.” Calvin is determined to do his own thing and he will not change his concept for Isaac. Calvin tells us, “No I don’t want to see wind blow. I am concrete idea.”

Work Period

The teams go to the fabric store and we see them working together with the color schemes. Jeffrey has some reservations about the type of cloth that Cesar has chosen and Cesar’s desire to dye his cloth. Cesar is uncomfortable with the choice of white for a jacket that Jeffrey is planning. They decide to purchase silk and jersey for the flowing effects they hope to create.

Dominique is creating a long flowing poncho with the assistance of Calvin who doesn’t like the idea of a long flowing poncho. Calvin tells us, “Are you kidding? Final competition and you are giving me poncho? Are you retarded?” Dominique tells us that Calvin is difficult to work with, but they have an understanding. Dominique is from a small town in California and she does not want to stay there.

Cesar is dyeing fabric and Jeffrey is concerned about Cesar dyeing fabric. Cesar wants Jeffrey to dye his very white jacket. Cesar criticizes the opposing House of Nami telling us that their color pallet is boring and says, “It really goes no where.”

Calvin is high on the challenge and he has karate movements to show that he is a fighter. The fact that Calvin seems so happy makes Dominique feels more assured. Calvin and Dominique are going to take a risk and have their models walk barefoot through snow.


The House of Nami will have a pregnant model. Dominique is happy and she calls their collection, “an art installation.”

The Fashion Show

The House of Emerald walks first. Jeffrey’s first design is a sea goddess wearing a crown. There is a very white jacket and a sarong skirt. The skirt moves like waves of water as she walks down the runway. Jeffrey’s second design represents the bottom of the sea. The dark top and the ripples in the skirt are to represent the water moving over rocks. The shapes are geometric. The third design is a sea foam green column skirt which Jeffrey believes is peaceful, yet powerful. Cesar’s first model is wearing a “puffet (?)” jacket which is puffy. He claims the jacket is a “Origami coat.” Cesar is very proud of his single seam, hand painted bias dress inspired by water and waves. Cesar’s final design has the shades of the ocean, is hand painted, and the back has “detail and flair.” Cesar tells us that the House of Emerald’s collection is “wearable clothes that make women look beautiful.”

The House of Nami’s Fashion Show stars with the models all on a dark stage that becomes lighter revealing the models. Dominique’s first model is a homeless looking girl. The camel colored coat flows over an organic skirt which Dominique describes as “airy.” All of the models have white paint on their faces to give the appearance of ghosts. Dominique’s second design is a white fluffy cloud top with a short tan shorts which are not hemmed. There are seams down the front of the shorts. The audience applauds this design. The third design is a black draped cloth that flows over the shoulders and head and into the lower part of the model’s body. The folds represent the waves in the sea. Calvin’s pregnant design represents the birth to him. This is his favorite look. He has instructed his model to walk with her hands on her back and there is folded white cloth in front representing the baby within. Calvin describes this design as “a huge risk to me.” Calvin’s second design is brown/camel and represents the shape of mountains. Calvin’s final piece is white to show the renewal of life. The dress has one shoulder and many folds. The model walks to center stage and the wind blows through the dress. Calvin believes that he can go home happy.


There are two guest judges this week as well as Iman and Isaac. Gilles Mendels is a designer for the stars. Glenda Bailey is from “Harper’s Bazaar.” Isaac compliments both houses and says that their collections make it difficult for the judges to make their decisions. Both houses worked well with the theme of earth, wind and water.

The House of Emerald is complimented for their choice of colors, but Jeffrey’s white jacket does not work well with the collection. The judges hate the vintage crown and feel that it does not help the collection continuity. Cesar’s choice of fabrics for one design is taken to task. Isaac calls Cesar a master for his ability to create the one seamed dress. Iman says that a single dress can destroy a collection. The judges describe what they like and do not like, but they disagree with each other.

The judges have issues with Calvin’s pregnant design of the House of Nami. Isaac calls the design malignant. Isaac loves Dominique’s shorts, but Glenda does not like them. Calvin’s camel coat is called “fashion forward.” Calvin’s use of fabric is complimented.

The judges decide that the House of Nami is the winner of “The Ultimate Collection.” Dominique and Calvin are given the keys to their new cars. Dominique giggles. Calvin tells us that his concept was accepted.

The House of Emerald is now on stage. Both Jeffrey and Cesar had a design that the judges criticized. They are sent to the back of the stage to change the design in 45 minutes. They return having listened to the judge’s critiques. Both designs are complimented. The judges decide that Cesar is “out of fashion.” Cesar hugs both Isaac and Iman. He tells us that he wanted to win, but will be happy if either Dominique or Jeffrey wins.

Next week, we have the finale of “The Fashion Show.” Each of the designers will be asked to create 9 designs in 7 days. WOW! I can see the fur flying already…

Until Next Time…


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167 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Fashion Show Jan 19, 2010

  1. Thanks for your recap of TFS… the only reason I watched it was for Iman’s opinions of the designers work and your recap gave me back 47 minutes of my day! Maybe a little OT: IMO, they took the snark from the first season’s Isaac and gave it to Iman (whether she intends to be snarky or not)… I liked Isaac much better in TFS Season One.

  2. error404 says:

    the most amazing thing I found about last night show, was that during the model fitting, Nami’s collection looks like a big hot stinking mess, and Emerald’s collection looked really polished. Then when they walked the runway, Nami’s looked really interesting and fashion forward, while Emerald’s looked dull and typical.

    I also find Calvin one of those weird reality tv people. He’s so awful, yet he speaks the truth. He was so rude to that gay couple getting married, but Hello! who asks a contestant on a fashion show to make a traditional ethnic gown?

    • quincyil says:

      I have grown very fond of all of the designers and the judges. You just fall in love with them and then they are “out of fashion.” I still believe that Jeffrey is our winner. Calvin did well this week, but the judges didn’t appreciated the pregnant woman at all. Dominique is a wild child, but Jeffrey has had so many dresses that Iman and Isaac wanted for themselves. Jeffrey has a collection of unisex clothing so he is adept at fitting both the male and female bodies.

      Like the art competitions that I enter, the judging is incredibly subjective Glenda from “Harper’s Bazaar” never agreed with Isaac. She hated practically everything because she is into fashions that she can sell. Isaac is into the foreward looking fashions, but he loves to see hints of vintage too.

      • error404 says:

        I found Glenda’s comments silly. Most fashion shows put on a show and get press. Then they talk to the buyers individually. Her comment about no shoes was so whatever. It’s a fashion show, not an instruction course on how to dress before leaving the house. And why does Bravo always seem to stick with themes? This week’s theme: people who don’t wear shoes and the people who hate them. LOL

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          All the judges bring their own personal and professional experiences and likes and dislikes into the mix – some judges liked those shorts. I thought the shorts Dominique made looked whack and I wouldn’t wear them but I loved the top.

          • quincyil says:

            I like hems. I’ve noticed a lot of frayed fabrics in the runway garments, yet I never see that in department stores. I don’t know if they just don’t have time to finish them or that they think it’s modern, but tattered looks impoverished to me, not couture.

  3. Adgirl says:

    Iman taught us a new word. We use it in our home when we are displeased.


  4. WindyCityWondering says:

    Loved that there were two totally different interpretations of the challenge. Calvin is creative and Issac couldn’t sway his vision – I liked that. While both collections were good – I was disappointed with House of Emerald, which looked good while they were creating but no so much on completion. And that crown did nothing for the challenge except ruin the outfit – maybe if someone designed a mermaid gown…
    The judges seemed all over the place in what they were “judging” and it seemed like retail viability vs pure design. It was hard to see Ceasar leave because I admired his love of fabric and his support of the other designers.
    My heart wants Jeffrey to win. My creative side sees Calvin winning.

    • Adgirl says:

      The judging sounded like a repeat of Project Runway this season.

    • quincyil says:

      Glena from “Harper’s Bazaar,” was bizarre. She did not like unusual hem lines or bare feet. I think she has a specific look that her magazine is going for and she is not able to be forward thinking. She wasn’t dressed fashionably herself.

  5. Adgirl says:

    How does Calvin get away with his language? “Are you retarded?”?

    We are so hard on the RH for every little thing they say and do.
    If someone on Top Chef interviewed that they would be thrown off the competition.

    • quincyil says:

      I don’t think Calvin is the only one saying things that are not normal conversation on this show. Cesar has called people names and made references that are not normal also.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Calvin’s language has always been foul – no one calls him on it because half the time they don’t know what he is saying and they really don’t want to engage with him when he is being pissy.

      • quincyil says:

        They don’t know he is saying a lot of it because he does it in the interviews. If they have a reunion, he is going to get it.

    • AZ Girl says:

      I wonder if it is a cultural thing with Calvin? He does not know how to “filter” his comments?

      • quincyil says:

        It could be. I have friends from different cultures and some do share things that my family taught us not to discuss in public.
        Calvin has been very angry at his fellow castmates. Dominique sent him to the losing House of Fashion and he could have been sent home. He felt that others in the House of Nami were weaker than he was and they should have been sent there.
        He is only happy when everyone is taking orders from him. Cesar and Calvin seemed to be at war if you listen to their rhetoric. Calvin fought with Dominique to the point that she left her own bed and went to David’s bed after he left. I suspect that was a war zone at night.

      • error404 says:

        what culture is Calvin anyway? They pretty much have at least one Asian on every season of PR, but no one like Calvin. Ivy this past year came closest I guess. I didn’t have any problem with her, but people were calling her “bitch” all over the internet like you got paid $1 every time you wrote it or something.

        • quincyil says:

          Calvin Tran is Vietnamese. He has a charity that brings medical assistance to childre in Vietnam.

  6. Adgirl says:

    Bourdain is back for Restaurant Wars!!

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Awesome! I wish he had been at the judge’s table all season but his blogs are hysterical.

    • WindyCityWondering says:


    • AZ Girl says:

      Still hoping that there is no front of the house. If there is then it most likely be fabio for one of the teams and carla for the other (if they are not on the same team). Personally, whichever team gets Mike I they should put him at the front of the house. He is the weakest.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I get why there is a front of the house but this is a cooking challenge – maybe a real front of the house professional could be used – then there would be an evaluation on how the back and front work together.

  7. vilzvet says:

    Ooh it is Italics Day! (I have nothing else to add since I don’t watch Fashion Show :))
    Okay, how about I am making stuffed peppers in the slow cooker and I had to get my puppy doggie diapers since she is in her first heat. She looks adorable, pissed at me but adorable.

    • quincyil says:

      I’m sure she’s hurting. The mares squeek and are agitated when they cycle too.

      • klmh says:

        I had a hyper mare and when she came into season, she was easier to show. She could be a little witch at times in the show ring. She trailered a lot better too when in season, just jumped right in without a fit. Go figure…

        • vilzvet says:

          Oh, didn’t expect the mood change. She’s definitely not her usual self.

          • quincyil says:

            She’s shocked at her predicament. Poor little thing…

          • Mookies1mom says:

            Do yourself and your dog a huge favor and have her fixed, unless you are breeding her.

            • vilzvet says:

              Oh I am, as soon as this first cycle is over. I read you have wait til that happens.

              • JKW says:

                Better to get her spayed for her health. If you want more dogs or puppies…go adopt them. So many homeless dogs and puppies are being killed. No need to breed more. Sorry, but I foster dogs for a rescue and it’s heartbreaking to see so many dogs put to sleep. I hate to hear of people breeding more dogs.

              • Mookies1mom says:

                Opps! Sorry, I’ve only had cats and they can be fixed before the first cycle. Poor thing just doesn’t know what to do with all those hormones and urges she has never experienced before.

              • error404 says:

                there are 2 school of thought on this. The Vet of Isabelle’s previous owners told them to wait until after the first heat. When we got her, our Vet told us no, do it before. We actually made the appointment for that Monday, only to have her first heat arrive over the weekend.

                • JKW says:

                  Most vets say to spay before the first cycle. There is less chance of mammary tumors. We usually spay the rescue dogs at 5-6 mo and before the 1st cycle.

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  Ahhh, I see. My vet. that treated my first kitties told me to do it before so that is what I’ve always done it. I’ve never had another vet tell me anything different.

                  • Mookies1mom says:

                    Learn something new everyday!

                  • quincyil says:

                    I had a male cat neutered and he lost his hair. I had medicine and after a few months, it stopped, but he was looking a lot like Grandma Kitty there for a while.

                    I have all of my dogs and cats neutered. I don’t have a stallion here because I hate trouble. The geldings just go with the flow.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      All your voices sound so different to me when you talk in italics! lol

    • California35 says:

      Your stuffed peppers sound good! (lunch time here) On the slow cooker? how long does it take?
      Poor booboo doggie 😦 You don’t want to “fix” her to avoid this problem? Mine is fix and I never had to deal with diapers, although I thought I should put on on her the other day becuase she kept having accidents. She was sick for a few days 😦

      • vilzvet says:

        They’re vegetarian: orzo pasta (tastes better than rice), some red beans, that blackened frozen corn from Trader Joe’s, and shredded cheese all mixed together with Italian spices. I fit five in my biggest slow cooker with some tomato sauce in the bottom and some on top. Cover and cook for around 4 hours. Should be good!
        And yes, definitely getting the dog fixed ASAP.

    • klmh says:

      Is she being chafed by the new duds?

      • vilzvet says:

        She’s not even trying to get them off like the underwear we had on her before, they’re regular extra small diapers that seem to fit well plus I got her a really nice chenille shirt that I wish I had myself!

    • error404 says:

      oh, I made stuffed peppers for lunch! lol

      after Isabelle had her first heat, her body tricked her into thinking she was pregnant even though she was still a virgin (hmm.. why does this story sound vaguely familiar?) , so we had to get thru a “hysterical pregnancy” before she could be fixed.

    • lillybee says:

      My guide for neutering a pet is I get it done as soon as the adult canines come in.

  8. quincyil says:

    Isaac is coming to Chicago on Rush St…

    Calvin has a store on N. Halsted.

    So women in Chicago should be dressed fashionably quite soon.

    Of course, the designers will be in NYC and all you will see it sales staff, but it will be their designer fashions.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Wow, I never knew Rush Street was the back alley to the Mag Mile – I always thought Rush Street was the younger, hipper alternative – they have better hair salons as well. Live and learn.

      • quincyil says:

        The most beautiful city on Earth, Chicago, is constantly changing.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          As for Issac – I hope his psychic isn’t Allison D – know that!

          • quincyil says:

            I wonder if Isaac would hire me for his soothsayer position. I have a lot of experience here as your pretend board soothsayer. I am a great listener and a great googler so I think I can be a soothsayer to the Fashion Industry icons like Isaac. Know that!

  9. Waxdiva says:

    Maybe this is Kim’s problem and not the alcohol… and if not Kim, then who??


    • AZ Girl says:

      Kim is jumpy. If it is Taylor I bet Russell is not cool with it. Cokeheads are Kim, Taylor and Adrienne. Definately more than only one.

      • vilzvet says:

        Could be any of them, but Adrienne? Yikes, with 3 little boys! I just can’t believe she’d do that with all her responsibilities. Finally saw the previews of the reunion and wow, was Ken emotional about revealing the shocking things Cedric supposedly said.

    • boston02127 says:

      I take it a morning bump means an alcohol drink in the morning. If so, I’ll guess it’s Kim because of her skin.

    • If You Had It Like This says:

      Ooh. I think it’s Taylor. She’s soooo thin and a little edgy sometimes. Cocaine is how a lot of these Hollywood types stay so thin.

      • AZ Girl says:

        I have noticed Taylor’s mood swings also. BUT Kim at the mansion dinner party she kept disappearing to the bathroom. I suspected something after that episode.

        • quincyil says:

          Ahhhhhhhhhhhh…. the bathroom… and she had to be driven home by Martin. I think it is Kim Richards.

          • error404 says:

            Ahhh the bathroom is right! You could totally be on to something, or not…. we’ll just have to wait and see.

            We all know about Kim and the bathroom, because Kyle and Lisa wouldn’t shut up about it. With sisters like Kyle, who needs enemies? Does she have Kim’s back, or does she just stab it?

            Ok, confession time! I myself take frequent trips to the bathroom, especially when I’m at a party I don’t like and am bored and feeling awkward. At my in-laws, I not only got to the bathroom, but often take the dog for walks. Unlike Russell, I won’t try and get Mr404 to go home early, especially if he’s having a good time. So I take “breaks”. There, now you all know about my raging “coke addiction”. lol

            • quincyil says:

              and then there are the board members who message the board from bathrooms at very expensive Manhattan restaurants. There are many reasons for visiting rest rooms it seems.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Me too, especially when Lisa kept mentioning how she was spending a lot of time in there then later mentioned that she wasn’t fit to drive home.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        and her eyes are glittery and the fun, fun, fun attitude – she just wants to have a good time.

    • California35 says:

      …wake me up c*caine every morning? sounds like cocaine to me. Kim does seem like she does something, don’t know what but the discussions about her were with alcohol… besides Taylor seems like she is doing something also, but more than alcohol.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO Kim is a drink and a downer/anti anxiety chaser gal. She has on occasion had the head shake going on the show. She bumped into the hall table at Camille’s dinner. She zones out. She sings songs about chickens and trys to imitate other wives poorly. She does not fit the cocaine profile of high energy and high moods.

        • California35 says:

          lol you just discribed me minus imitating the wives and the head shake…ok I just bump into things and zone out 😛

  10. Debbie says:

    I am still really sick but I wanted to be somewhere fun for a minute and post in italics. Tee hee. I tried to hold my breath so I wouldn’t make any of you sick. Great blog Quincy!!

    • boston02127 says:

      Debbie—Hope you’re feeling better soon. ♥

    • quincyil says:

      You came to the right guest blog. The microbiologist is here with her magic wand. I am sending all of my good wishes through cyberspace to you right now. I hope you get well.


    • Adgirl says:

      I hope you washed your hands before posting. If my computer gets your virus then you are in trouble.

      • Debbie says:

        I wash my hands so much lately that my fingers are cracking. I am now using that hand cream by neutrogena. I love the creams. Lotions don’t work as well on me. But, my hands already get really dry in the winter so all this extra washing is awful on them. That was enough rambling outta me. Thank you all very much for the well wishes. Dr Quiny…Medicine woman is so cleaver Adgirl.

  11. LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

    Lisa is on The Ellen Show tomorrow.

  12. Noreen says:

    Hi Everyone,
    I only post occasionally and try to keep up with this superfabulous blog, but it is a struggle. But, I wanted to ask (and I am sure it has already been discussed) if anyone noticed that Gilles Bensimon is the photographer for Bethenny’s recent cover on Redbook. It’s a funny world. And I thought Bethenny looked amazing.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Betting KKB isn’t too happy about the world’s best photographer shooting the ho bag of her existance. lol

    • California35 says:

      really? I did not know that!!! Yes, I will assume Kelly isn’t happy (if she even knows).

  13. WindyCityWondering says:

    I liked that the 45 minute do over. It forced Jeffrey and Ceasar to be creative on the spot. It could have been used earlier in the competition as a way to force creative consciousness – like to break Edwardo of his Mr Ruffles rut.

    • quincyil says:

      Both were successful. I think that Isaac has a real affection for some of the designers and he saved them even when their designs were failures. Surely, the workmanship of Eduardo on all of his designs was superior to anyone else.

      This is all subjective so the judges can be playing favorites for the drama of the show.

  14. klmh says:

    Quotes from notable people:

    Sometimes, when I look at my children, I say to myself, ‘Lillian, you should have remained a virgin..
    – Lillian Carter (mother of Jimmy Carter)

    I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalogue: – ‘No good in a bed, but fine against a wall.’

    – Eleanor Roosevelt

  15. Adgirl says:

    I haven’t seen anything on screen to support the tab reports on drinking problems or drugs.
    I don’t think of any of BH ladies are shown to be bigger drinkers than say OC.

    I did notice at the blind date dinner Kim had a large glass of water with her at the table. I wonder how long the shoot was, and if Kim ate dinner.

    • klmh says:

      I think someone mentioned she kept going to the bathroom.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The internet whisperers indicate that Kim has had substance and alcohol abuse problems through the years. It shocked me to see her on BH because she was a shell of herself, skittish and seemingly overwhelmed (I thought she would be comfortable infront of the camera more so than some of the other wives). She has minor children so for them and for herself, I just pray she gets help!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Let’s not forget our friend Mary in DC! She at least seems happy in her haze.

    • California35 says:

      We are just kind of guessing…I actually like Kim and I hope she is not doing any of those things. Also, even if she did, she should not be treated badly even if those around her have had to deal with her when under the influence…IF she really is into any of those. If they are sick of her, they can just avoid her, or be polite while around her….but not be rude to her.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        At times it is very hard to help someone who is hurting themselves but won’t admit it. Kim has people in her life who want to help her desperately and I think we are witnessing the tip of the iceberg on the show. Hopefully, she is getting help and people will stop judging those who care about her.

        • klmh says:

          Spot on, imo.

        • California35 says:

          yeah – that is true. I do like Lisa and think she is polite and behaves well, so if she doesn’t treat Kim well, there must be a reason. I don’t rememember her being mean to Kim, there was only something on a preview when Kim told Kyle that Taylor and Lisa are not her friend. OUCH!! I don’t like them fighting – I like both of them….

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Lisa seems to take a mother/friend role to the Richard sister. She has no malice but a lot of compassion for Kim and she tries to support Kyle too.

  16. klmh says:

    I went out with some friends last night and tied one on. I got
    really seriously drunk.

    Knowing that I was wasted, I did something that I have never done before.
    I took the bus home.
    I arrived safe and warm, which seemed really surprising as I have never driven one before.

  17. AZ Girl says:

    I am cutting Kim a break. Drugs, alcohol, farm animals…..I don’t care.

    I really do feel for Kim and any “issues” she may have. I am going to give Kim a pass for several reasons.
    First, she was the older child star that Kyle and “Little” Kathy were not. Kim was the cash cow (similar to Paris and we know that Paris does drugs). I cannot fathom being in a situation as a small child knowing that “how I performed” determined the family’s income. The pressure must have been daunting. It is not a surprise to me that Kim wanted out at an early age to raise her children.

    As for alcohol? I would drink too. A LOT. Personal mistakes would be unimaginable because as an individual I could not think rationally with being raised as a “circus animal”. A circus animal who wanted the approval of her mother and sisters.

    Now, Kim has to deal with Kyle constantly bringing up “Big Kathy” and her wish to have Kim taken care of.
    Kim is sad. I would be too. I still would love to know whose idea it was for Kim to be on this show.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Truth be told – I wouldn’t trade my little life for any of theirs!
      We speculate, we judge and label their actions and words but we don’t walk in their beautiful red soled shoes. It makes me sad when we read that real pain came out of their filming what is entertainment for us.

      • buffywood says:

        I couldn’t agree more. When I saw the brief clip of the reunion show I immediately thought “Where is the therapist?” It reminded me more of an episode of Dr. Phil… well at least how I envision an episode of Dr. Phil as I have never seen the show.

      • AZ Girl says:

        I agree….it is so sad.

    • TEB says:

      No disrespect AZ- but Kim was the youngest. (at least that’s is what I have read…)

    • quincyil says:

      Mothers have an incredibly strong influence on their children. I bet both Kim and Kyle wanted to get away from the stagemom from hell at some times during their lives. They married quite young.

    • Adgirl says:

      Not the farm animals!

  18. PattiStinker says:

    Since your comments are pre-approved I figured this is the best to confront you rather than on twitter because I tried to respond to your Direct Message and your not following me.
    My issue with you is, your the reason that I made the account @pattistinker. I’m a 23 year old stay at home Mom and a avid reader of your blog. I figured it would be fun to mock Patti Stanger since she is such a bully and to provide entertainment. I have had issues with @gracecharles @gracestarrs . When I first made the account @pattistinker I was having a conversation with someone and here comes this person @gracecharles saying “these fake accounts are going to stop” I had never said a word to her. It’s ok for accounts like @gingerzarin though.
    Anyways, I told her that if she didn’t like it she didn’t have to follow me. I hadn’t heard from her after that for a while. Every time I get a follower I follow back, I don’t care who likeswho. I noticed a person @gracestarrs was following me. I thought it may have been @gracecharles because of the avatar but followed anyways, thought maybe she was just on the rag that day or just having a bad day. To back track a bit on my page it used to read “Are you having a twitter love spat that needs intervention for the right fee I can intervene” Of course that was a joke. It was a mockery of Patti Stanger.Well, people took it literally and had requests that weren’t “love spats” My inbox would get filled with them. So finally I just took it down because people took it the wrong way and literally.
    So one day, I decided to erase some messages and noticed alot were from @gracestarrs regarding @gumby not tot metnion all with in a couple days of eachother. During that time @gumby was participating in my “shows’ so I never had a reason not to like her as people started to tell me things about her. Honestly, I didn’t care she was nice to me and I’m not Jill Zarin. I then started noticed how grace was taunting her. Let’s just say if you would like to see the the messages I would be more than happy to show you. This gets to my purpose of writing you. I noticed you quit following me when I was trying to respond to your direct message. Someone suggested it’s because I had a fight with your friend @gracestarrs and if that is the reason Lynn then that is VERY JILL ZARIN OF YOU. Maybe if you knew more than what she is telling you like my messages from her, then you would think twice before you stop following people for her.
    Your not on twitter that much anymore, so you can’t say it takes up your time line because if that were the case then Grace’s taunting tweets to Gum’s would also take up your time line too.
    I have never done anything to you Lynn, matter in fact we have interacted well, I lost followers because I followed you which is fine because if someone is not gonna follow me because of you then it’s no loss and I don’t socialize with people like that in real life. My point is I hope your not being like Jill Zarin by un following me because of a friend of yours and I has an issue. She has been taunting a “fan” of mine lol as I say fan on twitter and sending me nasty messages because I didn’t respond and that was the reason of my blow up on her.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I don’t know all the players involved that you are talking about with the exception of Lynn- and I have seen your posts here and you seem just fine.

      But IMHO opinion, it seems like you are putting too much thought into all this twitter nonsense.

      I have been actively posting here for some time now- I have never been in a spat with any posters with the exception of VERY obvious trolls who post and run- and Lynn doesn’t follow me on twitter.

      I don’t see it as a sign of her not liking me- or JZ-ing me or any of that. I see it as the result of her having so many people who follow her, that she can’t possibly follow everyone back. If she would miss so much in the process- there would be no way too keep up with it all.

      Maybe you weren’t the only one who got trimmed-and it has nothing to do with ‘he said-she said’ drama.

      I think if Lynn was really trying to cut you off, she would block your IP from posting here. Clearly she did not. Nor did you say she blocked you from following her.

  19. Zipit Zarin says:

    The coke-head can’t be Kim Z. She’s too zaftig in the tuchis. 😀

  20. PattiStinker says:

    In response to your Message you don’t play the game Mafia,
    As “Patti Stinker” wanted to reply to you by saying, “I don’t play the game either, a fan sent it to me, when I opened it up, it automatically sent to all my fans also sorry about that..” ~Patti Stinker~

  21. Need a Hobby says:


  22. Need a Hobby says:

    In the words of Eddie Murphy in his SNL days, “I am Gumby, dammit!”

    Yeah, I don’t have a clue either. Meanwhile I will serenade you ala Kim Z. “La, la, la.” OK, that’s enough. I have to rest my voice.

  23. Adgirl says:

    I think Kim is scared of Camille. Maybe Camille resembles “Big Kathy” Hilton, her mother.

  24. Adgirl says:

    Giggy really shouldn’t be doing street drugs. No wonder he can’t walk.

  25. WindyCityWondering says:

    Let the war begin and here’s hoping Anthony holds nothing back!

  26. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I agree with posters who feel Kim is too low energy to be a c-head. If anyone said pills or marijuana, i’d have said Kim immediately. These girls were teens in the 70’s, living the Hollywood life. Of course both of them dabbled. They ran with stars and the wealthy, where drugs were plentiful. Plus Kyle doesn’t look or act nun-like either. If it is BH, I’d pick Taylor because of her thinness, the way she purses her lips and her erratic behaviour. One moment she’s crying, then angry, then normal. She’s all over the place.

  27. justanothermary says:

    Just wanted to take a minute to thank you all for this blog. I’m rapidly losing my eyesight so can’t watch tv anymore, but justanothervirgil reads the blogs to me and the magnification helps for now so I can read some on my own. The blogs and comments really help me catch all the stuff I miss not seeing the tv clearly. Thank you all.

  28. WSL says:

    Just another Mary I love u too

  29. WSL says:

    Just Another Virgil, I love U 2 !

  30. California35 says:

    About Camille —


    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Sourma Khoury9:54 pm
      Don’t worry Camille chances are no one will want to marry you and if they do chances are its for your money (you know the millions you never earned but received through a divorce settlement)
      Message – Report
      Melisa Paddock Pehl9:53 pm
      What a relief for the men out there. Ya know, I don’t think Kelsey wanted her to do Housewives so he could mess around on the side….he wanted the world to know what a loon she was so we knew WHY he was messing around on the side. And if she is 42 that makes me like….19….sweeeeet!

      I love reading comments. LOL @ these!

  31. ches says:

    Aaaaagh! I hate Syfy. They take cancel Stargate and put on “Marcel’s Quantum Kitchen”.

    Marcel’s Quantum Kitchen
    Utilizing the science of cooking, Marcel’s Quantum Kitchen stars one of America’s most notorious chefs, molecular gastronomist Marcel Vigneron (Top Chef). In each episode, Marcel and his new catering and event company will be hired by a demanding client to produce an extraordinary celebration or event. Based on the client’s requests, Marcel will dream up a theme and cuisine for The Event, which range from a fairytale graduation party and a Goth-rock fashion show to a birthday dinner held on a platform suspended in mid-air. He and his team of party planners and chefs will tap the depths of their imagination and culinary talents to create everything from the immersive décor to a delicious menu that emphasizes Marcel’s unique brand of avant-garde cooking.
    Marcel’s Quantum Kitchen is a production of Intuitive Entertainment. Executive Produced by Kevin Dill and Mechelle Collins.

    • Adgirl says:

      Sounds like an sinister alien life form invaded your SyFy channel.

      And who here wants Marcel to “dream up a theme and cuisine” for your Big Event?
      Let’s seee…. foam, foam, and more foam. Oh. Look. Ilan is a guesting as a “client”. Foam with saffron,

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        When we lived in Germany we camped all over Europe every summer cuz there were 6 kids and Dad was a Sarge. We’d find huge snails in our tent and mom would come over and pour salt on them. They would foam. I wonder if Marcel makes salty escargot. wink

        • ches says:

          That’s disgusting. But the really sick thing is that you actually stayed and watched the entire foaming process. 🙂
          Marcel’s foam reminds me of St. Bernard slobber with a little food coloring mixed in. It’s that thick, dog saliva-like foam. He probably has Fido tied up in the backyard.

    • quincyil says:

      With Syfy, you get invested in a series and they cancel it. The actors and producers must hate Syfy. too.

      • ches says:

        You’re right Quincy. Give it a year and it will be cancelled anyway.

        • ches says:

          I wanted to watch “Being Human” when I first saw the previews but I really hate investing my time and energy into watching it knowing Syfy’s track record. So I think I’m gonna pass on it.

          • quincyil says:

            I have never been into the vampire genre. I like going into space. I’m hoping that Star Trek will make more movies with the younger cast now that they have successfully changed the time line.

            The Stargate producers will be looking for another series. I would like a channel owned by the producers of science fiction so Syfy and the middle men would be cut out of the loop.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I hate Marcel, if anyone should have got show around that premise from C- it should have been Richard Blais.

  32. jeang says:

    Just another Mary, I love you and am praying every day for you.

  33. tweatcyn says:

    I just want to say I have a lot of compassion for Kim. She’s not only socially awkward, her fiance was murdered while she was talking to him on the phone. She was a basket case for some time afterwards. I think she just wants everyone to like her so gets very nervous during confrontation for fear of offending anyone, and in the end offends all. While I like Kyle very much, I do the she can be unfairly harsh and critical of Kim.

    • Adgirl says:

      I agree.
      I also wondered if Camille is anything like Kim & Kyle’s mother who sounded manipulative & intimidating. I think Kim would avoid having a confrontation with someone like that.

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