I Hate Jill Zarin The Fashion Show Finale

I Hate Jill Zarin  The Fashion Show Finale – Guest Blog by Quincy IL

Thank you Quincy for blogging The Fashion Show all season, great job on the finale!!!

The Fashion Show Finale/Ultimate Collection

There is a review of the season of competition with views of the various designers from the early days to the final days.  We see relationships grow, designs change, and the quality of the work improve.

The final three designers in the competition for 125,000 dollars and a spread in “Harper’s Bazaar” are Dominique, Jeffrey and Calvin.  The House of Emerald and The House of Nami no longer exist.  Each designer is to create their own “Ultimate Collection.”   Iman and the three designers are in a darkened room with the best and worst of each of the designers work from the many weeks of competition.  Iman tells Dominique that she was a sleeper in the competition and that the judges did not notice her until her contribution to the designs in the “Time Capsule Challenge.”  Iman tells Dominique that her umbrella dress from “The Lost and Found Challenge” shows that she is a “risk taker.”  Iman tells Calvin that she still has nightmares from the first challenge’s yellow dress with a hideous flower that Calvin thought represented Iman.  She shows the black dress that was to accent the vintage gloves as an example of Calvin’s best work.  Iman tells Jeffrey that his work is truly original.  She reminds us that she loved so many of his designs and wanted to take them home.  Each of the designers will receive $3600 for materials.  Jeffrey won two challenges so he has an additional $1,000.  Dominique won two challenges, but she took immunity once in order to take greater risks so she only receives an additional $500.  She tells us that this amount will be a help to her.  Calvin never won an individual challenge, but he is confident because he has a good understanding of fabrics and how to work with them. Iman gives them a shock when she tells them that they are to create 9 fashions in 7 days. Jeffrey, in an interview, yells, “Noooooooooooo!”  Dominique expresses shock with a giggle.  Calvin says, “Good luck,” to the others because he knows this challenge of many garments is not a problem for him.

Planning Session

The designers sit on the floor in front of their designs to create their sketches and come up with a theme.  Amazingly, all of the designers decided on the theme of their own journey. Calvin will do a collection of black garments.  Dominique looks at chiffon in grays and purples.  Jeffrey is going to honor his mother whose favorite color was red.  Jeffrey says that every woman looks good in red. Calvin is spying on Jeffrey as Jeffrey looks at fabrics. Calvin says, “You have $1000 dollars and fabric you choose is poorly cheap.”  Jeffrey thanks the staff of the fabric shop as they leave.

Mood Boards

Isaac comes to the studio for his final meeting with each of the designers.  He reminds them of what the judges have been requesting from them each week.  Jeffrey, in an interview says, “ Me and Calvin started at the House of Emerald. I knew he didn’t like me and I wasn’t a crazy fan of his.  Calvin has opened up as a person.  He has a great concept.” Calvin says, that his “mood is a journey of me as an angry person.” He adds, “and then I end up here.” Calvin is going to use black and create a minimal design.  Isaac points at a sketch and says that the collar is great, but Isaac wants Calvin to make the rest of the dress simple.  Dominique is using wools in a soft purple.  She stresses her feelings in the collection and says that the direction will be from “noise to silence.” There will be a coat and a jump suit to show her range.  Jeffrey tells Isaac that the red of his collection was inspired by his beloved mother.  Jeffrey tells us in an interview that his mother died when he was 20 and that she was the one who always believed in him.  Jeffrey’s collection will be bold and modern.  Isaac reinforces the need for simplification.  He compliments Jeffrey on the great progress he has made over the period of the contest.

Work Session

Calvin tells us in an interview that he is superstitious about the color red. Red is fire.   Calvin was born in the year of water.  “I don’t wear red. I think its bad luck for me.” His collection will be black and grays.  Dominique tells us that Calvin knows patterns and that he works fast.  She calls him a speed demon, but believes he does not edit well. Dominique is dyeing cloth to honor Cesar and what he has taught her in the competition. Calvin tells us that Cesar went home because of a dyed dress.  Jeffrey is having trouble with proportions and seems rattled by having to create the designs that he has sketched.

Jeffrey is tired of suggestions from Calvin.

Calvin is done with two days to spare. The others are struggling.  Calvin decides to create a red dress dedicated to his lover who is ill with two months to live.  Should Calvin win, the prize will go to the Gay Men’s Health Crisis.  He will create “the perfect dress ever.”

Additional Challenge from Judges

Iman appears with a new challenge from the judges.  Each of the designers will create a 10th design.  She has cards with the requests from the judges.  Calvin’s challenge is a pants suit; Jeffrey’s challenge is a strapless dress; and Dominique will make a design which is business attire. Iman has another surprise.  Each of the designers will receive another pair of hands.  Tamara is there to help Calvin.  At one point, Calvin offered to go home to give her a second chance at the competition.  Cindy is there for Jeffrey.  David has returned to a joyful Dominique.  The young couple reunite with such joy that Tamara wants to know what happened while she was away.

Work Session

Jeffrey shows Cindy his very finished sketches, but she remarks that his designs are not on the rack.  Calvin shows Tamara that he has finished everything.  Dominique shows David that one of her designs is “like a homeless person.”  Jeffrey is very unhappy with his fittings. Cindy tells us that Jeffrey has to get focused.  She is on her knees sewing and tells Jeffrey to go and work on another garment.

Hair Design

All three designers meet with the fashion show designers to discuss hair and make up one day before “The Fashion Show.” Calvin wants “simple  and sleek.” Danielle’s models will have a side part like her own hair. Jeffrey discusses the way the hair will look from behind.

Work Session

David loves Dominique’s designs.  Calvin looks at Dominique’s collection and says, “Every thing is like a big potato sack.”  Calvin says, “My collection is very strong. Everything is unique and flattering a woman’s body. Oh, my God!  I love this!” Tamara tells us that Calvin doesn’t have to worry about Dominique or Jeffrey.  Jeffrey does not think he will be able to sleep.

The Ultimate Fashion Show

We see the three racks being wheeled across the busy street for the last time as the designer go to the location where “The Fashion Show” design team awaits.  They do last minute fittings, steam folds on the clothes that are already on the models, and adjust the placement of  belts on the models’ bodies.  The producer of the fashion show asks the designers to look at the audience on a television screen and they see family members. Calvin sees his mother and sister.  The mother has not been supportive of Calvin’s design career.  She appears to look unhappy in the audience. Calvin’s sister is smiling.

The set for the first of the fashion shows is a forest scene.  Calvin’s first desing is a black dress. Calvin tells us that “this is the new me.”  Calvin tells us that his mother thinks fashion is a joke and she never smiles when the camera is on her face.  Calvin describes his designs as the models walk the runway.  He is happy and confident.  He thinks the clothes are beautiful and he loves every single design. Calvin included a woman’s tuxedo as a part of the collection.  At the end, a beautiful flowing bright red dress appears.

Dominique’s fashion show is meant to show “the city girl.”  She feels it the collection is “new and improved me.”  She uses “the grunge look.”  She feels “fearless.”  She is “no longer the quiet girl in the corner.”

Jeffrey’s fashion show starts with fusion Asian music, a darkened stage lit by many red candles with the an Asian stature in the distance against a golden sky.  A model with white flowing pants walks the runway.  Jeffrey tells us that he started the competition with a unisex collection, but grew to love the shape of a woman after many weeks of designing and creating for models.  His colors are almost a gray/blue.  He mentions harmony.  Then a red underskirt is seen on a model with a long coat.  After that, red becomes the moment.  A red strapless dress meets the judge’s challenge. His final look is the dress created to honor his mother. It has long sleeves.  Jeffrey tells us that he feels like a winner no matter what happens later.


The judges compliment all three of the designers and admire the collections.  Then the judges ask Dominique to bring her models forward.  The first dress represents “chaos and silence,” but one judge is confused by that statement.  Isaac loves the business attire skirt, but Imam hates the extra cloth by the model’s hip reminding everyone that women (Iman herself) have issues with their hips.  Glenda from “Harper’s Bazaar” tells Dominique that the clothes she is wearing at that moment is a better, fresher look.  Dominique says, “My heart is in this!”

Jeffrey is told that his collection is “Bright, bold, and fearless.”  Isaac says that Jeffrey’s strapless red gown is his “best dress ever!” Isaac calls the strapless dress, “Phenomenal!”The judges have issues with the tight leather top as the model looks uncomfortable.  Isaac describes Jeffrey’s collection as an “orgasm.”

Calvin is told his most important dress was the final red dress.  It has the design of his dress from the first challenge.  That was the yellow, not tomato dress.  This red dress is simple with no extras.  Calvin has listened to the judges.  Iman did not like Calvin’s pant suit.  She thought his choice of fabric was wrong. Isaac loved the coat of the collection.

The designers are sent off stage and the judges discuss. We are told that Dominique has youthful exuberance and took big risks.  Jeffrey went from unisex to having a wonderful understanding of a woman’s body.  Calvin listened to the judges and edited himself.  The final decision was difficult for the judges to make.

The designers come back.  Iman speaks to Dominique and tells her that her collection is not “The Ultimate Collection.” Dominique hugs everyone and leaves.  She tells us that she is more confident.

Calvin and Jeffrey stand alone and turn to see Jeffrey’s model in his final red dress walk on to the stage.  Jeffrey won “The Ultimate Collection.”

Calvin tells us “the judge make a decision and the best one won.” Other designers compliment Jeffrey.  Eduardo calls the collection, “Amazing!”  There are tears and hugs from everyone.


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321 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Fashion Show Finale

  1. vilzvet says:

    Okay, I’m blind. Smallest font in the universe, LOL!!

    • quincyil says:

      Apparently, a lot happened in that finale.

      • vilzvet says:

        I’m sorry I stopped watching! But this board has got me into Atlanta HW so I may watch FS on the reruns, which we know will be happening ad nauseum!

        • quincyil says:

          I was sitting on the edge of the couch until the last minute. The all came back to wish each other success. I’m sure there are hard feelings, but Calvin was nice in the very end.

          Calvin’s mom was dour. I think she must have had a difficult life being an immigrant from Vietnam because she hasn’t been the loving mother that Jeffrey had and then lost to breast cancer.

          I didn’t like Dominque’s fashions, but I am not young so “grunge” is not a part of my generation. She tried to give the impression of a street person. I try not to look like a street person.

          I think Jeffrey did a great job and I loved Calvin’s collection. The judges had a hard time making the decision since both were really great.

          I guessed wrong about Calvin winning so that is a huge black mark against my soothsaying record. Calvin being ok with the loss really threw me for a loop.

  2. viki55 says:

    Boston, thanks for posting the link with Bethenny’s interview. I really enjoyed it:) I can’t wait for her new show!

    • Debbie says:

      The best part of that interview was Betheny saying that Jill is no where in her life and that she had to get some people (Jill) out of her life and it was the best thing she has done.

      • California35 says:

        I am glad she did. Life is so busy and stressfull at times to have to worry about the nonesence some people bring into our lives. It is nice to have a friend to talk to or hang out with to get out of our work/life some times, but if that friend only adds problems then it isn’t worth it. She has a busy life creating a business and a family – I am sure that if she has any free time she rather rest or do things she enjoys 🙂

  3. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Quincy! It was a fantastic finale – while I thought Calvin’s collection was stronger, the way Jeffrey’s designs moved on the runway was inspired. Glad that Dominque walked away with confidence. Loved tha Calvin was graceful in losing. Jeffrey got not just the Ultimate Collection win but a chance to honor his mother who always believed in him. It was an interesting season.

  4. vilzvet says:

    US Magazine has the details of the new OC housewife…I didn’t know another was on the way. Guess Lynn Curtin is definitely out?


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      great! another plastic, fantastic, blonde and enhanced bringing the drama oh so not a housewife – it’s another reason I don’t feel bad that I just can’t get into the OC. thanks Vilzvet, in my getting slimmer tv diet I have officially cut out one housewife franchise.

      • mbdea says:

        Yeah, perhaps because English is my second language (Spanish is my native tongue) but despite knowing it’s meant to be a tongue-in-cheek reference, I can’t help but believe/desire to see an actual REAL housewife –a LITERAL version; one who is, well, actually a wife, stays home (or at least works from home since it’s not called the Real Working Wife), who is not anything less than a size 8, and is active in some community organization (e.g., PTA, Scouts).
        You know, the one who usually only has time for lip balm (no time to layer the eye shadows and glue-on the lashes), staggers out of bed with actual bed-head, can slip into any infinite combination of gym clothes (not for the gym, but to rush the kids to school), puts in 6 hours of housework but is really only able to get 3 things done, curses out the laundry (no Tide commercial smiles in sight), has a 5 minute conversation with other moms at drop-offs or pick-ups, perhaps even the occasional argument or “disagreement” drama with another mom over play dates, a parking spot, Bunco, birthday parties, etc and may nor may not have dinner ready by 6pm and not afraid of take-out or delivery –when all else fails.

        Yep, I know very well, the REAL in Real Housewives is not to be taken literally but, again, my mind keeps wanting to take it there. Andy Cohen –llamame ; )

        • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

          mbdea – I like the way you think. Love the Bunco reference. Andy Cohen – call her!

        • vilzvet says:

          I have a special fondness for the OC group because they were the first. I remember catching them for the first time back when Bravo was pretty new. I just kept watching and then the new versions began.

        • sugarmagnolia10 says:

          I think you just described me! But, trust me….my life is booooring! I don’t fight with my friends, I actually clean, cook, and do laundry, and I do charity work twice a week in a place where I would never ever bring camera’s (so as to not compromise the dignity of our clients).

      • error404 says:

        let me help

        shown in the attached picture from left to right:
        1986 Barbie, 1990 Barbie, 1972 Barbie, 1978 Barbie and 1976 Barbie.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          You just sent me on a 2 hour nostalgia trip, where I have been looking up vintage Sindy doll stuff. ( I always thought barbie was prettier although Sindy was a better doll with much more flexibility. Also Sindy’s stuff was better and everthing wasn’t that gosh awful pepto pink.

    • Debbie says:

      I may be alone in this but I cannot stand horoscope nonsense. If this is gonna be her “thing”, I will not be interested in her at all.

      • Brigid A. says:

        Debbie, have you noticed how many of the HW’s are into astrology and psychics? Kyle carrying her mother’s “remains” to her psychic session was just over the top to me. Wonder if Mauricio turns a blind eye to her wackiness.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA it was one my turn offs are short of a playboy magazine bio!

  5. quincyil says:


    I am taking full credit for finding this fantastic article. No one helped me find this or sent it to me in an email to enjoy. This is mine, mine, mine.

    • Cusi77 says:

      It is HILARIOUS, thanks for sharing, Quincy.

      • quincyil says:

        You are very welcome. I don’t give credit to my friend for sending this to me. Remember, it is my find. rotfl.

    • buffywood says:

      Great article Quincy! I loved this part “I wish I could hold Kim’s hand and tell her it’s going to be all right. That I know what it’s like to be a former child star, or at least former child star adjacent, having grown out of whatever it was that made you bankable.” Unfortunately Kim was taugh that when she was no longer bankable she needed to marry someone that is.

    • ilovelynn says:

      omg, quincy, that was a riot! I usually read the huff post everyday and I hadn’t gotton around to it today. that claudia is too funny. thanks!

  6. WSL says:

    Great minds think alike at the same time. Quincy is my twin & we were separated at birth !

    Now this could be juicy.

    Perhaps inspired by his now ex-wife Camille’s tumultuous run on ‘The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills’ — which she says he forced her into doing — Kelsey Grammer is looking to break into the Reality TV game himself, Variety reports.

    Sure, he is already a multi-Emmy Award winning actor, but maybe he wants to bring his side of the messy divorce, as well as his new upcoming nuptials, to television.

    Stella Bulochnikov-Stolper, Grammer’s producing partner, already has a deal in place with production company Zodiak USA, and is working the phone lines to make the shows a reality.

    “I knew that Kelsey loved this space and would love to pop some big shows,” Bulochnikov-Stolper told Variety. “The idea that he would lend his name and brain and star power to working on some formats was so exciting to me, and then to have a partner like Zodiak to produce them and sell them all over the world — that’s really going to produce some fireworks.”

    Fireworks, indeed. Grammer is in the middle of a messy divorce from Camille, who is demanding $50 million in a divorce settlement. Grammer is now engaged to marry Kayte Walsh, his 29-year old girlfriend. The wedding, so long as he can get a divorce in time, is scheduled for February.

    For more, click over to Variety.com.

    • kbinldo says:

      What Kelsey said: Hey, RHOBH sounds like a great idea! It will give you something to do while I’m on Broadway!

      What Camille heard: Do RHOBH or else.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      It seems like the Grammer’s might be ‘cash poor’ since Kelsey’s lawyers are saying he doesn’t have enough liquid assets to secure it right now.

  7. Cusi77 says:

    Thank you Quincy for the great recaps of Fashion Show, week after week, your beautiful work is appreciated!

    I was also crossing fingers and toes wishing Jeffrey to win, since his collection was amazing and very emotional, since the first white ensemble, to the red dress at the end (not my favorite, btw) the strapless red dress was “Magnifique”!. I am so glad Jeffrey won! He deserved it!

    I think Dominique’s collection was cohesive, her printing fabrics were gorgeous, if I was 10 years younger I would wear some of the pieces! I was beautiful, but not enough to win the competition.

    Calvin really changed his attitude during the competition (a little less angry person) His collection was amazing! I can see myself in several dresses he did… not enough to win, as well.

  8. Shannon says:

    Wow! I just don’t see what Cynthia sees in this man.

    Peter Thomas: His Side of the Story.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Cynthia has made a horrible mistake. She had a better relationship with the father of her daughter.

      • Brigid A. says:

        Do not understand what she sees in Peter. He’s apparently broke and not attractive (to me). Didn’t her daughter’s dad appear in an episode? Attractive guy. Cynthia, what were you thinking, girl?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        he is a self centered player and for the life of me I don’t see what she sees in him

    • buffywood says:

      Are you f’in kidding me? “SHE CAN’T TELL ME NO
      If I need her to do something for me again, she better step up. That’s part of her duty as a wife. Because she’s never gonna call on me and I say no—never.”

      He would come home and find all of his shit out on the lawn so fast he wouldn’t know what hit him. I would probably write NO on a 1,000 post it notes and put it all over his shit too. While I would want to use sharpie right on his stuff, that ass would come back and sue me and it wouldn’t be worth it.

      • California35 says:

        He is going to come up and say that we don’t know how she treats him off comera, that there is so much more to the story that we don’t know about…bla bla bla… 😛

    • floridagirl88 says:

      RUN, CYNTHIA, RUN!!!!!! This man has no idea how he sounds. Hey, Cynthia, you can hide out at my house until the divorce is final.

    • AZ Girl says:

      OMG what an asshole. Poor Cynthia. @ Buffywood love the post it notes idea. Hope Cynthia reads this blog and takes note.

    • error404 says:

      The whole tone was geared toward straight black men. Too bad that’s not who’s reading it.

    • Sparkles says:

      Wow. While he did say some nice things about Cynthia, he got some real digs in there. Not cool. He comes across as a jerk.

      I do not see this marriage lasting.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I don’t feel sorry for her. She picked him….she can deal with him…or not.

      I don’t understand how a woman can spend all most life time thinking about a dream wedding- and some times a year a fortune making it a reality…but not put the same attention and preparation into who they actually marry.

  9. tweatcyn says:

    Haha, gr8 find Quincy. That article is very funny and on point.

    The prev. Article about new OC HW Peggy the Aries. Hmm. She seems a bit obsessed with her zodiac sign. I’m an Aries too, and generally like other Arian women very much, but I can’t stand Vicki G. Peggy’s love for Tamara does not bode well for her in my eyes either. We shall see. Even though I’m an OC Native, NY has always been my fav RH franchise, followed by BH and DC. ATL is rediculous and cartoonish and OC is Vain and Vapid.

  10. quincyil says:


    “Lest we forget” why Jill Zarin was upset with Bethenny and tried to destroy Bethenny’s lively hood. Bethenny was loved by so many and Jill was jealous.

    • California35 says:

      It is funny that I started paying attention to Bethenny ONLY becuase I wanted to have something in common with someone on that show. I am not married, so as much as I liked the show I identified with the single girl 🙂 Because of it I paid attention to her and so Jill as well because they were together all the time. Jill would have not been on my radar if it wasn’t for Bethenny — jet Jill acts like people paid attention to Bethenny because of Jill. WRONG!! at least for me.

  11. kbinldo says:

    Great recap as always, Quincy! I watched the finale last night (avoiding the SOTU & Date Night on Capitol Hill). I was very impressed with all t he designs & I agree with the judges as to who won & why. I thought Calvin really did a good job & I hate him! LOL

  12. quincyil says:


    Another oldie, but goodie. This article mentions how producers of the show tweeted back and forth saying how awful Jill Zarin was during filming. It’s been a long time since season three and your forget the Jill Zarin was really the most hated reality star in American at that time.

    Just recently, the young reporters of TMZ has a good laugh at her expense when they asked her why she let ginger her dog lick her nose. Those young reporters know what dogs lick and they weren’t afraid to say it.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      holy s**tballs! I had no idea there were JZ lawsuit threats about BF’s spin off show – why didn’t that come out at the reunion? as for falling into the arms of another man because JZ was distraught over Bawby’s cancer scare…..eeeeewwww!
      just when I thought my JZ hate tank still was full – quincy comes along and tops it off – bring on the new season!

      • quincyil says:

        It’s been a while since the reality star, Jill Zarin, was front and center in the gossip press. I’m sure that the new season will bring many opportunities for Jill to share her stardom with her fans across America and Aruba.

        I may start an “I Love Jill Zarin” blog because no one else has stepped up to bat. Jill has her own website which is an “I Love Jill Zarin” website with a blog that she forgets to write all the time.

        When she got in trouble with fans last season, she stopped writing her Bravo blog too. I wonder if Jill would be upset if I started an “I Love Jill Zarin” blog and forgot to write the blog.

        • quincyil says:

          BTW, if I start an “I love Jill Zarin” blog, I am going to hire Strega to monitor the board and only nice things will be written about Jill Zarin. If someone writes some thing not nice, Strega will ban that person, their children, their grandchildren, and their great grandchildren. I am sure that my strict policies of only being complimentary to Jill Zarin will earn her tweets and I will get 10,000 hits and be very grateful to Jill Zarin for her kind favor.

          • California35 says:

            You are funny Quncy, who is going to coment on that blog, who is going to write the blog!!?? what would you say? 😛

            • quincyil says:

              Actually, I would be able to write the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog. I would comment on her hair, her designer clothes, her ability aquire fine jewelry, her new cars with special i phone connections, her designer purses, and her tweets to her fans which go into cyberspace every few minutes.

              I wouldn’t be allowed to blog on her interaction with cast members, as I would have difficulty in finding nice things to note there.

              Everything would always be nice. I promise this to Jill Zarin. I want her to look favorably at my blog because I suspect I am going to be very lonely over there.

              • California35 says:

                😛 there is that 🙂
                I am sure that there is nice stuff to say about her…or her things 😛 but yeah stay away from how she treats class mates, how she uses people in general, how doesn’t train her dog, how she brags, well the list goes on and on 😛

                • quincyil says:

                  Correct, only nice topics. I could talk about the crowds of fans that gather around her where ever she travels.

          • Debbie says:

            That is so funny. An empty blog. Might as well be Jen Sale. LOL

  13. AZ Girl says:

    I watched the State of the Union and afterwards the second half of Fashion Show. I loved all collections especially Calvin’s red dress. It was stunning.
    Jeffrey was named the winner and Calvin was so gracious. They all should be proud of their work.
    When they showed Calvin’s mom in the audience that was something. She looked quite stern. Hopefully she is proud of Calvin.

    • buffywood says:

      Me too. Thanks for the recap Quincy. I was curious how the beginning of the show went. I am by no means into fashion. I find so many of the outfits during big fashion show bizarre to the point of being ugly, but I really liked most of the designs. They were beautiful but wearable.

    • quincyil says:

      He may have issues because of his relationship with his mom.

      I thought he was smart to be nice in the end.

  14. Brigid A. says:

    Kelsey Grammer is appearing on Regis and Kathy tomorrow. Sorry if this has been mentioned already.

    Kyle must have begged to be interviewed today because she’s not listed on the program schedule as a guest. She’s deeply into pre-reunion damage control.

  15. quincyil says:


    I just can’t wait for the new season of RHNYC to begin. We will get to see Jill’s photos when she goes to buy Bobby shoes. It’s exciting, I know. It’s amazing that cameras are where ever Jill Zarin goes. I guess that is why she has to have hair and makeup professionals as part of an entourage. Only the truly big stars have that kind of crew at hand.

    • vilzvet says:

      Love that story! I am making time later to go back and read the comments again.

    • Debbie says:

      Does anyone know how Bobby is able to stay in business? It seems like his wife would have driven all the customers away by now. How do they have so much money? Or do they?

      • quincyil says:

        You forget, this is NYC. In a small town, a husband might suffer because of the behavior of his wife, but in NYC, people don’t know the couple who lives in the apartment next door.

        Despite, Jill’s tweets that she is always surrounded by adoring fans, I think few people actually know who she is.

  16. California35 says:

    Hi everyone, I really have no time to read right now, but I sooo wanted to get out of my head and read the board instead. I have been at work only for an hour and I am already stressed out. Reading here helps me relax a bit to get back to work…but I got to go…I will read later…all those who work from home, what do you do? how can I join in? I need a break from this one. Maybe I just need a week’s vacation, work never changes and I do need the job, so I need to change ME 😛

    Any waaaaaaaaaays! I am taking a deep breath and will go on with my day….

    • vilzvet says:

      I was feeling stressed today for some reason and I don’t know why. I spent the whole day at home looking at/dealing with a snowstorm that is continuing tonight. But I did make some really good Rachael Ray gourmet burgers. Hope your day got better, CA!

  17. Adgirl says:

    @Quincy – Loved your itsy bitsy blog. id you type it on a blackberry? LOL.

    I can not wait for your new I Love Jill Zarin blog!
    If Strega monitors the board will there be any comments??? BTW Strega is Italian for witch or bad witch/good witch (or something).

    P.S. it looks like “someone” recently purchased the url ILoveJillZarin.com, IHateJillZarin.com may still be available.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It makes perfect sense for JZ to purchase ILoveJillZarin url – Obviously we will all be banned before she even starts. And I’m betting that other professional blogger from Chicagoland who had her zenn up JZ’s ass this past weekend would love to be that blog mistress……wow I just made myself sick! lol

    • quincyil says:

      Well, I was just going to use word press because I didn’t want to pay any monthly fees. I hope Jill bought that site and she is going to make a fancy web site for herself. I will visit it often to get fodder for my little “I love Jill Zarin” blog on the Prairie.

      • buffywood says:

        Quincy, if you buy the domain from GoDaddy I would host your site on our web server free for life!!! I would even set up a phpBB Message Board for you for free as well.

        • quincyil says:

          I really don’t know what any of those term means, but the word free is nice and I could use that word in my “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie. Would Strega be allowed to live in the basement of your building housing the computers? She won’t take up much space. I will give her a sleeping bag and a bag of cheetoes.

          • buffywood says:

            Its a deal. While I don’t have a basement Strega could live in the 3rd floor of the barn for now. There are a few other critters up there to keep her company.

            A phpBB is a common message board used the web. I sometimes create and maintain them for software companies as part of their user support.

            • quincyil says:

              I love the term “user support.” Any change you can talk to a small satellite internet provider called Hughes Net and mention the term “user support” to them?

              Strega is used to living with the critters in our cave. She feels at home with all types of varmints so the barn will be just fine.

              Of course, the blog would require a twitter account. How else could I get the good news about Jill Zarin into cyberspace every day?

        • quincyil says:

          I think I would be the perfect blog mistress for the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prarie. Jill Zarin, if you read this and I know you will read this, please give me this economic opportunity to serve you. I never break a rule or a promise. I always get my blogs in on time. I actually send out 10 carrier pigeons to make sure that at least one makes it to Chicago in the overnight express flights.

    • quincyil says:

      I wrote the blog in charcoal on a cave wall and then took a photograph which I sent by carrier pigeon to Chicago. Lynn scanned and then posted. The carrier pigeon had to have a small photograph as there are high winds this time of year.

  18. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jeffrey’s win makes Calvin and Ceasar recent tweets interesting. Since all the designers came back for the finale – I wonder if Calvin took his anger/disappointment out on them. It surprised me so much that he was a good sport and graceful loser – his behavior and harsh words didn’t just evaporate into thin air.

    • quincyil says:

      Well Calvin did spy on Jeffrey when Jeffrey was buying cloth. He also had comment to make in interviews. I think that Calvin’s beloved partner probably softened him and told him of the many opportunities he will have because he made it into the finals. That is just speculation, but someone was able to help him deal with all of this stress.

      • Adgirl says:

        Doesn’t prozac take a few weeks to kick in? Kidding.
        I think Calvin probably got some $$ for making final 3 and is happy to have something to donate to the Gay Health Charity.
        I was very impressed with Calvin’s passion & compassion towards his partner.

        That said, I can’t believe Jeffrey didn’t stitch Calvin’s mouth shut in the sewing room. Calvin’s unsolicited critiques would make me wild.

  19. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet:
    Its official. Its snow angel day. Whoever wants to make a snow angel with me, meet me at 5pm at central park. Place to come.
    I really think she needs to be tested for drugs. Not just once but once a month to be able to around her children or to drive. I’m not trying to be a gloomy gus about snow angels but they were fun when I was six. Something is truly wrong with Kelly. She’s not even funny (if that’s what she’s trying for) she’s sick. Sick in the head. I don’t know how any adult can stand to be around her. I wouldn’t be able to take ten minutes with her.

    • California35 says:

      I can’t believe she will be on HW again….

    • Adgirl says:

      She’s going for Wholesome Cute. Pretty difficult with all that testosterone.

    • klmh says:

      You make me smile! She is simply unbelievable, and sad. Glad you follow her and announce these tweets or whatever. Good fun for us. Tx

    • Debbie says:

      Boston, I love that you post her tweets as she and Jill blocked me a long time ago. I think Jill told Kelly to do it because Jill did it first and then poof Kelly followed suit. So, Thank you

      • boston02127 says:

        Jill has no idea who I am. She even sends me her newsletter each month. If you click on my name you can read it each month. It’s under Big Red’s Newsletter.

        I act dumb when I tweet her. She was twitting & bragging about her new line of “skweez”. I tweet her things like: “So much work to start a new line, u must b exausted. Instead of all that work why don’t you just go on a diet”

        Sort of a double edged dig. I do the same thing to Smelly Kelly.

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      “gloomy gus”! lol!!! too funny.

  20. boston02127 says:

    GTG dance my arse off. I’m not liking this schedule of coming & going from morning until night.

    Have a good afternoon everyone. When I get back please have some good news for me like Teresa is in jail or Jill is MIA.

  21. Mookies1mom says:

    Completely OT but here it is anyway…..

    The baby daddy of “Top Chef” star Padma Lakshmi has filed legal papers to wrestle custody away from her … TMZ has learned. Adam Dell — brother of the computer king — filed papers today in a Manhattan court. Under an out-of-court agreement, Adam has visitation rights to see his 11 month old daughter, Krishna Thea Lakshmi, 9 days a month.

    That agreement, sources say, is in effect until February 20, when Krishna turns 1. Both Adam and Padma were discussing a custody arrangement after Krishna’s birthday, but the negotiations recently fell apart.

    Sources tell us … Adam is still furious over the name Padma chose for the baby. We’re told two days after Krishna was born, Adam went to the hospital and launched into a 4-hour tirade over the name.

    Adam, who had an intermittent relationship with Padma, was also complaining he was only allowed to see the baby 7 hours a week, though sources connected with Padma say she has never denied him a day of visitation.

    Sources connected with Padma tell TMZ … she feels “bullied” by Adam and wants to handle this in private, for the sake of the baby. We’re told Padma — who is not receiving child support — has made it clear to Adam she wants nothing to do with him other than raising the baby, and feels this is Adam’s way of forcing a relationship.

  22. Mookies1mom says:

    I haven’t had the chance to watch TFS finale. But I am so glad to hear that Jeffery won. I can’t wait to see what they came up with. I’m usually waaaayyyy behind on what is cool to wear. Plus, I’m pretty much a jeans, comfy top and shoes type of girl.

  23. Adgirl says:

    All things considered, I found the nine/ten looks for the TFS that were whipped out in a week, were much better than most collections on Project Runway that took months to create.

  24. quincyil says:

    I have an idea for my first “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie. I went to her web site and read an interview that is published there. The lovely, Jill Zarin asked her mother and sister to help her write the book because it is lonely at the top. Jill believe that you can find a generous, not stingy man, who loves you a little more than you love him, if you buy 10 of her paper back books and accept a phone call from her at a prearranged time.

  25. Adgirl says:

    While I’m at it, I want to say something about Kim/Kyle.

    No one can steal you house unless they forge a jillion documents. Is Kim saying that Kyle and Mauricio forged documents or forced her sign things over to them? Did Kyle have someone legal right or need to force a transfer of property?
    Maybe that’s why there is a subsequent purchase of a home with both Kim and Kyle on the deed (so Kim has her same $ interest in another property).

    I don’t have the links here – someone here 2 days ago actually did a property search in Riverside Cty and located the recordings.

    I think this is a lengthy and convoluted story and we are getting some ugly highlights without the dirty story.

    • Fairweather Viewer says:

      Considering Kyle’s husband is a real estate agent, he is in a position to easily commit fraud upon ignorant sellers. I don’t have a clue what the story is behind Kim’s house. However, it is very possible that there was some sort of real estate deal gone bad wherein Kim was encouraged by Kyle’s husband to sign a deal that she didn’t understand. She may have done so believing that she could trust Kyle’s husband not to take advantage of her ignorance but later found out the hard way or perhaps by seeking legal advice that she signed a bad deal. I sort of wondered if when Kyle mentioned her husband “supports” Kim if he only does it or is doing it to prevent Kim’s lawyers from suing him for real estate fraud or something. This theory might be way out in left field but it is possible considering all the cases of real estate fraud out there.

      • babykakes says:

        sounds like you have something there..or maybe, wasn’t the house owned by “Big Kathy”? if so, maybe she changed her will
        without Kim knowing, leaving it to Kyle. Afterall, Kyle said that she promised her mom she would take care of Kim, & maybe giving her the house was part of the deal. Make sense?

  26. WindyCityWondering says:

    It will be cool to see Jeffrey’s line in the magazine! I’m wondering if they will be redone using high end fabrics, professionally sewn and accessorized.

  27. HD says:

    I’m late…I’ve have a major project at work this week…

    Quincy are you really doing a I Love Jill Zarin blog? Am I understanding correctly or is this a joke? (Sorry if I missed the conversation on it)

    • HD says:

      Whew…okay I read upthread. I was a little worried. I was thinking, hmmm she wouldn’t have much to write about. lol

    • quincyil says:

      It’s a joke. Unless…. Jill reads the board and hires me as the blog mistress of the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prarie. I think this should be a salaried position with health, a retirement fund, and paid vacations.

  28. California35 says:

    I was about to ask that 🙂

  29. Sparkles says:

    Have you guys seen this video yet?
    Camille Grammer’s Costars Want Her To Return, Plus Taylor Armstrong Appears Drunk In Video

    Taylor certainly looks drunk to me. I wouldn’t care but I find it hypocritical in light of her attitude towards Kim and her business interest in a rehab facility…

    • Adgirl says:

      I knew it. I called it at the LV party where Russell dragged her away.

      Taylor is a starve-holic or drunk-orexia whatever they are calling those women who refuse to eat food but drink alot. Like Tara Reid was (is?).

      • Sparkles says:

        “Should we talk about her state of mind? She’s pushing me to go there.”

        Ah, the irony. Every time I see that clip I dislike Taylor more.

        She is now officially my most disliked HW.

      • Brigid A. says:

        Adgirl, I thought I was alone in believing that Russell had a good reason for getting Taylor to leave that LV party. She was drinking, very loud and appeared already intoxicated. Russell gets blamed for being a wet blanket. My hunch is he has lots of experience with dragging Taylor’s drunk ass home. She is a piece of work.

        • Sparkles says:

          I hadn’t thought of that, gals. But it makes sense.

          Again, I wouldn’t judge so harshly were it not for the total hypocrisy here.

        • Katie says:

          She certainly seemed drunk while talking to Kyle (bedroom scene on the bed while Kyle was putting PJ’s on her daughter). I knew she had a few too many during that scene.

    • Brigid A. says:

      Did my eyes deceive me or did that man grab Taylor’s ass when she did her turn-around for the camera? She’s half naked, wasted, slurring her words, draping herself all over Faye and then Kyle. Kyle reached out and prevented her from falling. And guess who Kyle proclaims as the drama queen of the season? KIM. And Tyler follows up with a slurred announcement that she and Kyle are “besties.”

      Mauricio is seen milling around the background and eventually pulling Kyle away. Where is Russell???

    • quincyil says:

      Taylor Armstrong is 3 sheets to the wind in that video.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      What a drunken tramp- and the constant fake smile on her face…and her pathetic attempts at acting sexy (like the even sadder cotton candy eating- she thought it was going to look hot but then when she realized everyone thought she looked ridiculous she made up some crap about not knowing how to eat cotton candy-the lies just pile up)

      I hate her

      • Brigid A. says:

        This is a perfect video for discussion on Andy’s WWHL. It’s really too bad the reunion has already been filmed before the season was over. Has this been the case with the other HW franchise reunions?

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I know- I tweet Andy and asked him-some ppl even re tweeted it but he never answered-even though he did a
          Q&A blog today.

          I think they do film the reunion before the last show- because I remember correctly they already filmed the reunion for the ALT wife’s.

    • Katie says:

      I have to tell you that video tells us so much. I think Kyle and Taylor LOOVVEEEE all of this attention. How many times they must have walked out of a club or restaurant and no one cared, the paparazzi didn’t point a camera at Kyle unless she was with her famous nieces. And Taylor don’t even get me started, she has been waiting for this moment all her life.

      • HD says:

        @ Adgirl…I thought Russell was trying to stop her from drinking as well at the Vegas party. She is certainly tipsy/drunk in that video. She might want to focus on herself and not so much on Kim.

  30. Adgirl says:

    Please, everyone promise not to watch or blog about Love Calling with Donny Deutsch .
    I don’t mind he has a show. Somewhere. Else. But please not on Bravo.

    • quincyil says:

      Even Mika Breszinski had problems with him on MSNBC. How did he get a show on Bravo about dating?

      • Buffywood says:

        Didn’t he do a question answer segment on The Today Show that had men answering questions from women about love sex etc? It was the same series caroline’s sons did a guest spot for. Isn’t Bravo part of the NBC family? I guess that was a test run for the series.

      • Sha2000 says:

        He’s okay on Morning Joe.

    • Sparkles says:

      OT (or at least “Off Bravo): Is anyone watching The Bachelor?

      • Kansas Girl says:

        I used to love the show, but have not watched this season. Are you watching? How is it?

        • Sparkles says:

          About five girls are convinced that The Bachelor is their future husband, and jealousy is running rampant. One woman seems crazy. And The Bachelor is leading them all on. Train wreck’s a-coming.

          • Kansas Girl says:

            Sounds about right. LOL. Are you really into it or want to know how it ends? I used to believe it (well, at least in part) and read a site where they tried to figure out the ending, but became disenchanted the season they said one woman had an affair with a producer — actually she demanded to call her child weekly and they decided to get her off the show. If you want a spoiler, check Reality Steve’s site. He has connections and knows the ending as soon as filming wraps.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I haven’t watched since S2 or so.

        This year- I have seen clips and it seems so contrived, it’s insulting. But the whole premise doesn’t appeal to me regardless; if I wanted to watch a show about an egomaniac with his own concubine, I’d pick Sister Wife’s.

    • Katie says:

      Please tell me more about why we shouldn’t I thought he was Ok???? There must be information I’m missing. When I saw he got this show I thought it was Bravo’s way of pushing or phasing out that Bitch Patti with her stupid show.

      Is he worst than her?

  31. Sparkles says:

    ***Got a Question for Taylor?***


    “Do any of you have any questions for Taylor Armstrong, one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills?
    Taylor was just hired on as the Creative Director for one of my favorite discount beauty sites, BeautyTicket.com, and I’ve been given the opportunity to ask her a few questions!
    So tell me – what do you want to know?
    Warning: I probably shouldn’t/can’t ask her too much about RHBH. Questions should probably be more about style, beauty, etc.
    Have questions you’d like answered? Leave ’em in the comments!”

    No one has posted a question yet!

    Where shall we begin?

    • Sparkles says:

      P.S. If I had to pick one question, it would be about the origins of “Ford” and her reported claims about being in the Ford family. I’d have to twist it a bit to mention beauty/style, such as:

      “Where did you get the stylish last name “Ford”? Did you claim you were part of the beautiful Ford family? Why have you changed your fashionable name so many times? Are you a stylish grifter?”

      • Shannon says:

        I think I would ask her, Why did you feel at such a young age that she needed plastic surgery? See how she turns that around to being Kim’s fault. lol 🙂

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        LOL- awesome.
        I bet if you were on Jeopardy, Alex would never have to remind you to form the reply in the form of a question.

    • Debbie says:

      How much lipgloss do you go through to cover your lips everyday? (In gallons as I still don’t know the metric system)

  32. Shannon says:

    Kyle said in the video link that Sparkles (Thank you Sparkles) posted above that they voted Kim as the drama queen of the season. So I wondered who you all think was the drama queen?

    My vote is for Kyle.

    • Sparkles says:

      That’s a tough one. Even though I’m sympathetic to Kim, and I think Kyle has acted terribly, I don’t dislike Kyle. I think there is such a complex history between them, and they clearly had such a dysfunctional upbringing, that Kyle deserves some understanding as well. I think Kyle just lost it on the last episode and probably regrets her actions.

      So I’m going to vote for Taylor. Part of the reason is that “drama queen” is a negative term and I hate Taylor. Also, Taylor is so darn fake. That whole Sad Lady With Cake scene at the white party was ridunkulous.

    • California35 says:

      Taylor with her “poor me” regarding Russell. There were a few scenes where she talks to Kyle about it, then all the scenes with Russel.

    • Katie says:

      I vote Kyle – she’s out of control. Even if I put the whole Kim thing aside. The way she dealt with Camille created drama. After the first attempt and it didn’t work, with people like Camille I think you need to just sit back and laugh when you’re around them and keep your distance as much as possible but like trolls you can’t feed them. But something tells me they loved the attention and camera time, it backfired on them, but I’m still not sure if they didn’t get what they wanted in some twisted way.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I’d vote for Camille. She is the drama queen puppet mistress – she engineered the Malibu melee dinner from hell. It was sick watching her sit there with that sly smile on her face when the rest of the wives were fighting.

    • Brigid A. says:

      Kyle. She has been in heated arguments the entire season and did the most cursing, name-calling and crying. Sad crying/happy crying, that woman sheds a lot of tears. Factor in her continuous snide remarks to and about Kim, followed by her grand finale limo assault, being restrained by both Martin and Adrienne.

      Taylor and Camille tie for second place.

      • nancy says:

        Kyle shed tears because she could. The rest have had too much work done and probably can’t cry. LOL

    • Debbie says:

      Kyle gets my vote but Taylor caused a lot of it.

    • Rabble Rouser says:


      If she isn’t starting her own drama- she edges her way into other peoples and acts like she is also the victim.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        VileKyle loves drama and drama loves her! She’s always into something. She’s attacked, been attacked and has people attacking each other for her! Drama anyone?

  33. California35 says:

    Back on March

    So he is still saying that he will get married next month? Is the divorse final?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Camille is holding it up. She wants a $10 million bond on the divorce settlement first. Kelsey says he can’t come up with that. Smart girl. lol

    • buffywood says:

      California has a law that a party to a divorce can force the divorce to occur after a set period of time after the official filing, and then they can work out the financials after the fact. This pevents one party from stalling and basically holding up the process to punish the other person. I totally forget what this is called but Kelsey has apparently petitioned the court to grant this.

  34. boston02127 says:

    No evening dance classes. I’m so glad I drove all the way there…NOT. Ugh.

    I just watched the vid of Kyle and Taylor. (Thx Sparkles) Nothing worse than a drunk sloppy woman, Taylor! I hate to show my evil side but I secretly hope Kyle’s so called perfect life falls apart on TV. Like Maurico getting with Camille. Better yet her new bff Taylor.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Boston, sounds like you are in a bad mood tonight. I recommend chocolate stat!

    • Brigid A. says:

      Boston, I commented previously that Kyle may want to clean up her act. What guaranty does she have that her perfect little world won’t crumble around her? She’s so smug and lords her social status over Kim. Mauricio may just get tired of his little drama queen/bully and dump her ass.

      Camille swears she was blindsided by Kelsey dumping her.

      Wonder what the pecking order would be for the ex-wife of the local BH realtor, or real-a-tor?

    • Katie says:

      I can see Taylor getting close and making her move on her BFF’s husband. I think Camille will be too busy breaking up Nick’s marriage. 🙂

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I agree-
        even though Camille kisses people’s husbands on the lips, I maintain it’s more about her exercising dominance over people than expressing desire.

        Taylor would sleep with anyone’s husband if she thought they would take care of her financially. I also think she would do it a with ‘hot’ husband who had a beautiful because she would as mistake it her being the ‘better looking one’.

    • California35 says:

      OMG – wouldn’t that be a slap on the face….if either Taylor or Camille make their move on him….She did say she would go with me if he leaves her…

    • boston02127 says:

      I came back because I felt bad for posting that. That was mean of me. I take it back. *most of it

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  36. error404 says:

    remember the airport? remember how Kim told Taylor about her “friend” who found it hard to be with famous Kim, and felt insignificant? so, what’s the odds going that this “friend” was her sister Kyle?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kyle had to work then too – remember driving herself to work at 13. I don’t think Kim was referring to her sister. And when Kim was getting her makeup lessons she said she didn’t have friends growing up to teach her how to apply makeup – so in the airport it may have been a made up story like the one with Paris Hilton and Kim being an icon and the paparazzi were interested in her not Paris.

  37. boston02127 says:


    I can’t play this because of my Flinstone computer. I’ll get the jist of it from the comments.

    • nancy says:

      WOW, my not so nice somment got posted when I went to the link.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly’s friend interviewed her in his chevy cruz – she talked about her 4th jewelry line (which she steals inpiration from the street) now showing at Wink – and that will be the next episode. She is very close to Jill and she loves LuAnn. She runs her plans past her daughters for approval and it they say that it’s hot, well then that’s the truth! Be thankful for your computer wisely not showing you this garbage.

      • boston02127 says:

        Kelly says: “She’s very close to Jill” No. Nobody likes Jill. So…. Jill is good to Kelly and acts like she cares about Kelly. Jill in turn owns Kelly and Kelly believes it’s a friendship. I’m betting Jill is the boss of anything they do because Kelly is a little afraid of Jill. (who wouldn’t be) The only reason Jill acts like she is friends with Kelly is because Jill needs the numbers on her side. I’ll never in a million years believe that Jill gives a rats behind about Kelly. Jill is too transparent. Also, what normal person would want Kelly around? She’s an embarrassment. I also think Jill knows that Kelly is an embarrassment and tells Kelly what to say and what not to say
        at all times.

        • Katie says:

          I co-sign that. very true

        • klmh says:

          Jill loved having Kelly around when she picked up the jewelry for the auction, as well as the photo shoot for her daughter, when the photographer recognized Kelly. So she probably comes in handy every now and then.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jill will use Kelly to go after her enemies -first Alex and then whoever defends Alex.

  38. Fairweather Viewer says:

    I watched (or rather listened) to Kyle’s interview while she was on Regis & Kelly this morning. Kelly’s lips must really hurt right now because she was doing some serious butt kissing. I realize Kelly can’t be rude to her guests but good grief. I have to wonder if Kelly has really even watched RHBH. I wonder why Lisa (Kyle’s real best friend) didn’t know that Kyle and Kim are now “in a good place” or whatever. Maybe the article I read where Lisa discussed them was old or something.

    Ok…and what is with all these women that like wearing these way too short way too skin tight dresses? They are not flattering to any figure other than young and bone thin. It is gross that every time they try to bend a little or sit that they have to worry about showing their beaver. I wish there was a law against “beaver shot” clothing from regular television. Eeeewwwweeeeee

    • Katie says:

      I didn’t get either. But it made me think that Kyle is was because she cried to Andy about the bad press and Andy called in a favor for his special little star, to his special little good buddy Kelly who had Kyle on to suck up.

      • Katie says:

        Sorry for the typos, wine and typing don’t mix – but it’s more fun!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          LOL- at least you have a reason…I don’t know what mine is other than I was rushing to get to the grocery store and my kids are driving me nucking futs- DD1 is sick and had me up a 4:30 am- till the afternoon when she fell asleep.

    • Brigid A. says:

      Kyle & Mauricio must be using all their Hilton connections to get Kyle on the talk show circuit before the reunion airs tomorrow. She is everywhere. Kelly’s sucking up was sickening.

      Something occurred to me about those last scenes on the finale. If it had been Kim’s boyfriend or even a brother who would not let her leave, verbally assaulted her and then lunged at her like Kyle did, having to be restrained by 2 people, Martin & Adrienne, would we have witnessed a different outcome? I think there would be outrage if a man assaulted her that way, and he could face charges of battery/assault. It’s all on film. Kyle totally gets a pass because she’s her sister.

      • Fairweather Viewer says:

        Very good point!

      • Kansas Girl says:

        Agreed. And I’m beginning to think Kyle was supposed to create some drama. I understand they were arguing, but they were not arguing over how much Kim had drunk. To me, it seems out of context to should “you’re an alcoholic”. “You drank too much tonight” would fit, but there’s a difference between shouting about behavior (drinking too much) and her state (alcoholic). It seems to me like shouting “you’re blonde” or something in the midst of the argument. So I’m wondering if this was set up.

        Btw, there is a Bravo video of another part of the party where a group is sitting on a round sofa, pushing it around and giggling. Kim is in the background chatting with various people quietly. I think the fracas happened very late in the party. Maybe when everyone was well oiled.

  39. Jessie says:

    Totally OT…but this blog has so many different and interesting people. I know this incredible man (actually my ex husband) and have been trying to help him get out there in the “dating” scene. We married at 19 and kind of went off on our own and did not have many friends (no children by either of us) and decided a few years ago that we just were more friends, and not in “love” in that way. Now (at 31) I have a new boyfriend and we all get along incredibly (he actually lives with us currently) but he has just not been able to meet anyone. He is on facebook but only has like 10 friends (I know how sad that sounds; i don’t do facebook and 90% of the friends he does have on there are people from me).

    Anyway…my point is to see if you guys have any ideas? We live in Northern NJ and if anyone has any “tips” I would greatly appreciate it. I just want to get him out there again, and happy. Even if there is no romantic relationship, I just want him to meet some people and have a happy life.

    He is 31 and attractive. Currently works miscellaneous construction jobs with my cousin and does OK for himself. I just don’t know how to help him meet people. He goes out to bars (he doesn’t really drink …a few beers at most) and it just seems so impossible for him to meet any new women. Plus he is sweet and caring and makes me laugh more than anyone I’ve ever met.

    I just want him to experience the “dating” scene but I just don’t have many women friends or anyone to hook him up with, even just to hang out on a Friday or Saturday. He did match.com and some other place and again he really got nowhere. He is also very shy and it is hard for him meeting new people, especially initiating meeting people. I just feel that he deserves happiness and I want him to have it but do not know how to help him get there!

    So any advice, (requests for facebook friend him would be welcome lol!) Like I said he is a great man…loyal, good looking, talented and funny…and I want to help him get himself a new life. But I just can’t seem to figure out how to do that….

    • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

      I don’t know where you are exactly in NNJ, but I am there as well. What about joining a local gym? My husband and I belong to a small, local one here in our town, and we both have met some very nice people, both married and single.

    • Fairweather Viewer says:

      Millionaire Matchmaker maybe? Just kidding.

    • quincyil says:

      My daughter had friends who met and married after joining match.com I look at the couples and they have so much in common.

      • Adgirl says:

        Almost everyone I know who met their partner during the past 10 years did so online. My friends recommend to meet ASAP don’t spend a bunch of time writing or calling. Meet at Starbucks for coffee (20 minutes) and then if everyone is interested later go on a date.

        I actually met my husband through the internet but not through a dating site. It was so long ago that everyone used AOL. He moved into my area and looked up who’s online locally then sent me an instant message asking a question about the neighborhood. We were so embarrassed about how we met that for years we’d say we met through a friend. If they asked who the friend was we’d say “Steve Chase” who was the owner of AOL. LOL.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I met my husband on myspace and went I went for my visa/GC interview they ask how we met- so I told them. The consular told me he hears that all the time now- and the big thing is an online game called World of Warcaft; and almost no one says things like ‘on vacation’, ‘through mutual family/friends’ or and things like that.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        Interesting. A friend is trying to convince me to try online dating, but I’ve been too scared to. I guess I should be braver.

  40. Fairweather Viewer says:

    OT – Can someone explain to me why my comments are blocked when I try to post them when I am at home but aren’t blocked when I comment from outside of my home? I don’t have a problem commenting on other blogs, just this one and only from home. Obviously, I am not at home right now. I googled the issue and it seems some wordpress bloggers have their spam settings such that sometimes comments get blocked because they are thought to be spam even though they aren’t so maybe that is the problem.

    • boston02127 says:

      1. Did you ever post something nasty under a diffrent name?
      2. Are you trying to post more than 2 links at at time?
      3. Your computer can be blocking you because of your settings. Check your settings/security.

      • Fairweather Viewer says:

        I posted a few times under a different name but I didn’t post anything nasty. I was melancholy maybe but nothing I posted was offensive or nasty at all. They were a few weeks back. Anyway, if I thought for a moment that they were somehow nasty or offensive then I would assume Lynn blocked me but that wouldn’t really make sense to me either because she seems against blocking comments or, at least, that is the feeling I’ve gotten from her blogs and posts. I changed my name because I thought maybe the name I used was the reason why it was possibly marked as spam. The wordpress q&a that I reviewed said that sometimes a particular word in the name causes the comment to be marked as spam or something like that. However, that doesn’t seem so likely now.

        • boston02127 says:

          Lynn does not block “willy nilly”. So if nothing was offensive I’d doubt you’re blocked. Write to Lynn and ask her if she knows why. Also, check your home computer security settings.

  41. WSL says:

    Get ready to par teee !

    ! Happy Birthday !
    ! Happy Birthday !

    Error made you a milky way ice cream cake and it’s on the ledge ( in the snow) outside the kitchen window !

    Iron & Wine
    Will sing Happy Birthday to you then they will sing their hit Jezibel
    Here r the Lyrics & how u to get ring tones of Jezibel.

    Ellen DeGeneres & Paul Newman
    Were born today too ! (I knew I liked them for some reason 🙂
    Find more Jan. 26th celebrities below.

    Now for your reading, channeled by Quincy (not Allison God forbid) !

    Few people understand power the same way an Aquarius born on January 26 does. Aquarians make their own rules and are not afraid to strike out in unexpected directions. Distinctive in appearance and attitude, they set an example for others. Their strength of character and steely intelligence give them a unique persona; they use these talents to their advantage.

    Friends and Lovers

    You should embrace: Appeal, adoration, romance

    You should avoid: Unhappiness, unfocused energy, spite

    Because of their standoffish personality, January 26 natives are more likely to have admirers than friends. It is not uncommon for them to become involved with someone much older or younger. They don’t believe age is a drawback to romantic happiness.

    Children and Family

    January 26 people have the insight to understand which aspects of their upbringing may have been too strict or old-fashioned but do not hold this against their parents. As parents, they are sticklers for discipline yet have the emotional flexibility to understand their youngsters need to test boundaries.


    The men and women born on January 26 have some very unusual ideas about staying fit, often endorsing peculiar or restrictive diets. They understand what they need to do to stay healthy. They can indulge in a hectic lifestyle, then slow down to accommodate a period of rest and recuperation.

    Career and Finances

    People born on January 26 need to transcend the boundaries of their existence through work. They are often drawn to professions that let them exert authority. Because they know the worth of power, they are unlikely to misuse it. They do not trust their finances to anyone else.

    Dreams and Goals

    When January 26 individuals choose to plot a course, they’re likely to exhibit amazing reserves of will power and determination. They are more likely to succeed if they have opposition. They thrive under pressure and need to prove what they’re made of — both to themselves and to the important people in their lives.

    Birthday Buddies :
    1961 Wayne Gretzky (hockey player)

    1958 Anita Baker (singer)

    1958 Ellen DeGeneres (actress, comedienne)

    1955 Eddie Van Halen (rock singer)

    1953 Lucinda Williams (singer, songwriter)

    1951 Calvin Jones (football)

    1946 Gene Siskel (film critic)

    1944 Angela Davis (activist, writer, teacher)

    1942 Scott Glenn (actor)

    1935 Bob Uecker (baseballer, announcer, joker)

    1929 Jules Feiffer (cartoonist, playwright)

    Read about Famous Gamblers at Casinos.Net

    1925 Paul Newman (actor)

    1923 Anne Jeffreys (Carmichael) (actress)

    1922 Page (Walter) Cavanaugh (pianist)

    1915 William Hopper (actor)

    1913 William Prince (actor)

    1912 Cora Baird (puppeteer)

    1880 Douglas MacArthur (General)

    1826 Julia Dent Grant (1st lady of 18th US President Ulysses S. Grant)

    Hope u have a perfect day !

    The LynnFam
    celebrates u all day !

  42. Katie says:

    I wonder what the real deal is Adrienne and Taylor? Based on what we’ve learned about the Fake “Ford” Taylor, I wonder how she convinced Adrienne to be the God Mother to Kennedy? I mean Adrienne didn’t even know about Taylor’s abuse stuff she dealt with growing up. I don’t know I would think a close friend and God Mother to your kid would know this stuff.

    Of course I think Taylor pushed her friendship on the rich Maloof and sealed the deal with the whole God Mother thing. I just don’t trust Taylor or her motives at all.

  43. Debbie says:

    I really want some big time producer to get a hold of Kim and give her a huge comback. Like what Quentin Tarrentino did for John Travolta. I am re-watching the finale and I love her and her ability to laugh at her quirky self with zero make-up on.

    • Katie says:

      Me Too! I’m also watching it, but it’s about to get ugly and sure I can take another round.

    • Fairweather Viewer says:

      I could see Kim on the sitcom “Cougar Town”.

    • Katie says:

      Ok, just watched the part where Kim walks in, note she is pretty composed and not drinking. Kim walks in and says Hi to Kyle and hugs her friend who tells Kim she looks great and Adrienne and Kim hug it out and Maloof tells her she looks stunning. What did I miss that Kyle thinks she was drinking?

      • Brigid A. says:

        Perhaps Kim looked a bit too beautiful and stunning. Kyle likes to be center stage. By their interaction, I think they had a disagreement before the party.

        If Kim was a little tipsy, who cares? She was handling herself just fine, and went off to sit with quietly with her friend. Unlike Kyle who screamed like a teenager when Taylor arrived at the party. They ALL drink, including Kyle. Kyle stalked her sister at that party, monitoring her every move, waiting to sabotage her and let Taylor do the dirty work.

        Kyle disgusts me and so does Taylor.

        • kbinldo says:

          Yup, I picked up on that stank eye vibe too. Kyle was miffed because Kim looked great & was acting friendly. Even if she was drunk (& I still maintain she made way too many smart observations & moves for someone three sheets to the wind if she was), that doesn’t excuse Kyle making faces & running around telling everyone “Hey guys, my sister’s drunk!”

      • Fairweather Viewer says:

        I watched it again too and while I do think Kim seems more excited than normal, I didn’t think she in anyway seemed drunk. I thought she was walking into the party feeling confident in her looks, probably for the first time in a long time. She was pleasant and was participating in the idle chitchat. Maybe she only does that when she is drinking though. Regardless of whether she was drinking or not, it still doesn’t excuse Taylor, Kyle or even Lisa for their gangsta verbal beatdown.

        By the way, did you notice on the clip of the reunion of Camille and Kyle once again discussing what Kyle did or didn’t say that upset Camille, that Kyle does not let Camille talk. Every time Camille tries to explain her version, Kyle interrupts her and gets louder and louder. I think in Kyle’s world, whoever was the loudest and most aggressive wins. I wonder if she ever types in all caps. ha ha

      • quincyil says:

        I thought she might be drinking too. She was very happy looking and usually she is uncomfortable in gatherings.

        • Brigid A. says:

          She probably had been drinking, but she was not disruptive, falling down, causing a scene. The point is, how was it any of Kyle’s business? I understand their complicated history. But Kim is an adult. Kyle is a control freak.

          Interesting that Kyle was just fine in that video posted above with her bestie Taylor who was clearly trashed and almost falling down drunk (or whatever substance she had been using).

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          At first I thought she was “acting” the part of a BH wifey. Did you catch the looks from the others when she was overly friendly in her greetings?

        • Katie says:

          I thought she walked in happy because she felt good about how she looked. Unless that was editing monkeys and the whole makeup lesson and new hair style didn’t happen before the party.

    • California35 says:

      It will be so nice for Kim 🙂 I would watch 🙂

      Someone mentioned a book also … since any one from the Housewives can sing or write a book (noot), why can’t she? I would read it.

  44. WSL says:

    I think Sagittarians Rock.

    • quincyil says:

      The half man half horse that Phaedra pointed out in the ceiling of Scary Mansion is the symbol of Saggittarius, the Centaur. Is anyone surprised that a lawyer who spent time at Oxford seemed to have no idea what those Greek mythological figures represented? What she doesn’t know surprises me.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I guess I will have to read up on them 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        All of the ancient cultures have composite race creatures. There are half horse/half man, half goat/half man, half fish/half man. The Sphinx in Egypt is a composite race creature half man/half lion. Many of the constellations have these creatures. The Zodiac that people keep mentioning with their birthday celebrations are Greek/Roman and Egyptian mythological creatures that are found along ecliptic/plane in which the planet orbit the Sun. The ancients didn’t have TV so they would watch the sky.

  45. California35 says:

    Thanks vilzvet !!! The day got better, it is almost time to go now…and the office is very quiet.

    Your Rachael Ray gourmet burgers sound good right now 😀

    • vilzvet says:

      Oh, it’s quitting time on the West Coast! Watching Idol now, so far only one really good girl. she’s my early favorite. And the burgers were topped with fresh basil (never thought to do that before) and this white parmesan sauce for the cheese topping. Yes, they were yum-o!

  46. California35 says:

    yumm yumm 🙂 I have never tried basil on hamburgers — might have some time 🙂

  47. WSL says:

    Brigid A.
    January 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    Brigid, our relatively new poster,I have read all of your posts and been grateful for your thoughtfulness. I would like to respectfully express my perspective on Kyle.
    Like you, I have compassion for Kim weather she is a substance abuser or not. Have u ever been deeply enmeshed with a substance abuser ? My experience lasted more than 10 years. My friend was the most talented person I knew in the area of career, talent and personality. I risked my reputation & many personal relationships to help the addict get back on track only to see the addict “not show up”. I paid most expenses & credit card bills hoping the lack of financial stress would inspire “normal” behavior. Once I bought a plane ticket to meet me. The day before I herd nothing. I called on the hour. I had paid for a car to meet my addict at the airport. The addict didn’t have the respect to let me know to cancel a car that I had to pay for cuz he didn’t come. I waited in tears & finally got a call 2 days after the expected arrival. There were many normal periods. There were professional awards and impressive job offers. Today, thank God,that user is sober for 3 years and doing great. He is a great joy to me. I am so thankful to the Lord. I was never short with him. I never yelled or embarrassed him in public. But I also often put him above my family members & personal responsibilities or tended to the previous & tended to him all night long at the expense of my health.
    I mention this because I didn’t get angry and Kyle did.I controlled my temper at all times. My “drunk” was not my peer. I can totally understand how angry w/Kim, Kyle has become. Kyle has lost her self control where Kim is concerned. I think she is tired of covering up for Kim,probably for many years. I am sure Kyle loves her big sister. She probably never expected to have to care for her older sister. Remember, according to Kim, Kim was the provider.
    Please forgive Kyle. I don’t believe she has malice for kim. Maybe contempt for years of disappointment. Both sisters are victims of the circumstances and both need to change. Kim is substance addicted and Kyle is angry and at the same time, addicted to the family drama it causes. But I am sure that Kyle loves her sister and wants Kim to stop the substance, that is devastating 2 entire families. Kyle wants Kim to be normal again
    So Brigid, have I changed your perspective at all ?
    Thanks for listening !

    • Cusi77 says:

      I am not Brigid, but I thank you WSL for sharing, because I understand perfectly what are you talking about. The night the final of RHOBH aired I was not angry at Kyle neither at Kim because I understand the dynamics when covering for an addict and it is as you described. When this is friend or a peer is easier than when is your sister-brother or spouse. IMO.

    • nancy says:

      Thank you, WSL. This is waht I have been trying to say on the board.

    • kbinldo says:

      Frustration, anger, I understand. Resorting to physical violence? Not so much. 🙂

    • Brigid A. says:

      WSL, I have read all your comments and can see how my posts could have appeared harsh about Kyle. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I am not a stranger to the tragedy of family substance abuse issues and how it devastates the entire family, and even affects friends and acquaintances. There is a reason alcoholism is called a “family” disease.

      Kyle is human and we all reach our limit. I, too, have said words in anger to and the heat of the moment that I later regretted. I have also been the target of extreme anger. I get that. But I have never put my hands on a family member or anyone in anger. Nor would I let anyone do that to me.

      Kyle recommended Kim to Bravo as a participant in a reality show. She knew Kim’s history. So they signed on to expose their family dysfunction to the entire world on a reality show. If Kyle knew the extent of Kim’s addiction and her fragility, why would she do that?

      Intervention is a wonderful tool for getting the secrets exposed and helping people get past their denial. But it needs to be done with extreme care, preparation and love, ideally with a professional.

      It troubles me that Kyle took her anger so far that she tried getting physical with her sister. That was the defining moment for me and extremely disturbing to watch. Kyle followed up by telling Adrienne she had no interest in counseling. She appears to be in deep denial about her role in the entire cycle of co-dependence, addiction, or whatever Kyle’s issues are. The focus is always on poor, sick and “insane” Kim, and unfortunately Kyle is everywhere on TV in recent days. It’s kind of hard to ignore her!!!

      This is a forum to express opinions, and it started in reaction to frustration with a NY housewife named Jill Zarin, who was trying to destroy Bethenny’s reputation and take her down any way she could. I have had a similar reaction to what is happening to Kim Richards. She’s not as strong as Bethenny, and has been victimized not only by Kyle but by all Kyle’s friends.

      I respect Lynn and really enjoy the posters here, a community of very intelligent and funny people. I enjoy your posts, WSL, and thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Hi B!
        Great post….and love everything you said.

        I think this is why the way Kim was treated this season makes me so angry. Let’s agree for arguments sake that Kim does have drinking problem- and that maybe behind closed doors it causes much pain, embarrassment and potential danger to herself and others. That doesn’t then mean she by de facto always in the wrong about everything; that is like the mentality that a prostitute can’t be raped or assaulted. Just because she might have issues, it doesn’t mean the other HW don’t or that Kim is at the heart of all their problems.

        I do see Kim as very fragile in someways but she has some strengths. Maybe being a child actress is a blessing and a curse but it did help her develop the skill of remembering dialogue-where as Taylor’s drunken ass can’t nor can she cope to it when it’s been proven by film.

        I also think that unlike Kyle, Kim can see two or three steps ahead of some of the drama the other wifes try to bring down. She knew Taylor must have lit up Camille in NY and it would end badly. She knew that Allison and Camille were laying a trap for Kyle at the dinner party. She sure knows Taylor is full of shit.

        I’m so frustrated that they shot the reunion special before this, because Taylor and Kyle were able to walk in with a false sense of satisfaction. Poor kKim must have felt out gunned- I wish she knew that there are so many people who wish her well and that no matter what, she did not deserve that.

    • Katie says:

      Good points, but I guess based on what I have watched/been shown that it applies to Kyle. She has a temper and control issues and I don’t believe that is all because of Kim.

  48. boston02127 says:

    When Kyle lunged at Kim in the limo, did anybody else notice how thin (cheap) her dress looked over her bum?

    • kbinldo says:

      We almost got mooned! That dress was way too short for someone her age.

      And, btw, what was it with all the soup can rollers in her hair if she was just going to wear it straight like she always does?

      • Agatha Cranky says:

        The “soup can” rollers actually molds the hair and makes it straighter longer and gives the hair a more styled and polished look.

    • Fairweather Fan says:

      I thought she stole my Halloween dress when I first saw it but then I noticed the name “Glad” wasn’t written on the back. I was invited to a Halloween party this year but I didn’t want to spend any money on a costume so I took a little black dress that I had and used it as a pattern to make a dress out of a black garbage bag. I put “Glad” in white letters on the back. I made my husband a shirt out of a black garbage bag and put “Hefty” in white letters on the back. So we went as “Hefty” and “Glad”. Anyway, Kyle’s dress looked very similiar to my garbage bag dress. I wonder who designed her dress.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      And as she turned to get out, she pulled the dress down, but then had to pull the front up. We saw more of her than expected that night.

    • Katie says:

      It was a bad dress. I think they all usually dress very nice. Too short and too tight is never a good thing if you have to fuss with all night.

      • TLM says:

        I agree Katie. I think she has a great body but it was too revealing and I think she felt too exposed. I was, however, really impressed with how great her legs looked!! Four kids and the woman doesn’t have a ripple anywhere. Must be nice! Sigh.

        I honestly think she wore that dress because Mauricio loved it on her so much. She was unsure of it before she left the house, and said what a nightmare it was to get into. Kyle was right when she said Mauricio is her biggest fan. It was so nice to see him appreciate her looking good without any kind of possessiveness or need to control her. He is always proud of her, and that is so nice to see. I remember what a contrast that was with Tamra getting dressed for the final episode of OC and what a bastard Simon was, putting her down for everything. I never cared much for Tamra’s taste, but I felt sick to my stomach hearing the way Simon spoke to her when she was getting dressed to go out. Always putting her down.

        It doesn’t look like that kind of dress is the norm for Kyle at all, and I would bet she gave it to her daughter after that night.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Too bad Camille wasn’t there, she could have warned her to ‘cover her rat’.

      • vilzvet says:

        Or Kelly would have (on camera) interrupted a reunion to say “cross your legs”. Remember the daggers Jill shot her after that?

  49. WSL says:

    I am sure I could be wrong or that we just took the same scene, in differently. I didn’t think Kyle was trying to be violent towards Kim. I thought Kyle was so stunned at Kims nonsense statements that she wanted to be face to face vs talking over several people. I thought Kyle was in disbelief of Kim’s words & wanted to hear for herself.
    Regardless,I could see myself becoming very controlling w/a close in age, same sex,siblings.
    Sorry to beat a dead horse.

    • Adrienne said (must have been on WWHL) that she thought Kyle was going to physically attack Kim. It looked that way to me too. When you move in to listen more closely to someone you don’t charge forward yelling as Kyle did.

      Interesting how differently we can see the same scene.

    • TLM says:

      I agree WSL. I remain partial to Kyle and sympathetic to her. And now the entire site will no doubt find me and chase me down with torches and pitchforks. LOL.

      I saw this episode tonight for probably the 5th time (yes, this is how I remember so much detail – I have no life, LOL). Kyle said 1) they never had an argument that bad in their lives, and 2) she wished it never happened. And 3), Kyle also said in her blog that what was going on in Kim’s life was “my sister’s story to tell.” She did not talk about Kim’s addiction. The cat was out of the bag as far as what Kim’s addiction was, but she couldn’t do anything about it at that point.

      If anyone watched Oprah this Monday, Oprah revealed a half-sister her mother kept a secret from her for something like 30 years, and the mother probably would have gone to her grave with it. Oprah said she believed her mother kept the secret for so long because of her shame. She had another sister who went to the tabloids years ago and told them Oprah had a baby when she was 14 who died. Oprah said she hated this sister for selling her out and they had a rift for a long time. But she was grateful because being forced to confront it publicly released her from the shame. I know neither Kyle nor Kim would have preferred the disclosure to happen this way, but it happened. How many of us have had an argument with a close family member where terrible things were said that everyone regretted? And how lucky were we that we didn’t have cameras rolling when we lost it?

      I feel badly for both sisters. I can see how Kim feels like Kyle is telling her what to do, but I also see how frustrated Kyle is when she tries to help Kim or depends on her and it seems fruitless. And if her husband has been helping to support Kim financially, well, I can only imagine how resentment can build. I hope Kim gets the help she needs. But I really truly do not think Kyle has an anger management problem, or that she is a bad person.

      I’m not sure why people thought Cat on RHODC or Nene on Atlanta were fabulous because they “told it like it is” or were “brutally honest”; I think Nene actually does have an anger management problem and I thought Cat was just plain rude many times. I did not see those qualities in Kyle.

      • Cheri says:

        I agree

      • Debbie says:

        I understand your point of view completely. I just still don’t understand why Bravo decided to air this scene. If ever editing ould have been helpful, this is one time. I think. I know it would have come out because taylor would have sold it. But why did Bravo show it?

    • error404 says:

      I don’t consider 5.5 years “close in age”, but that’s just me. I find Kyle “insubordinate”.

  50. boston02127 says:

    O/T–I hope posting this site is not offensive to anyone, it’s not meant to be. I absorb history and I think this new site is amazing. Google Creates World’s Largest Digital Archive of Holocaust Victims.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      boston, thank you for posting this!!!! This is amazing and I will ponder it for hours and hours.

      • JKW says:

        Has anyone read, The Book Thief ? It is a really different way of telling the story of a young girl in Nazi Germany. It is narrated by death. Death comes and takes the souls when they die and sees all their stories. That sounds very weird but it was one of the best books I have read. I couldn’t put it down.

  51. Zipit Zarin says:

    I’m sick of the topic of addiction and enablers caused by Kyle and Kim. If I wanted to ruminate about that I’d watch the show Intervention. Which I don’t.

  52. Butters'Mom says:

    What struck me during the party scene was that it looked like Kim has hearing aids. This could account for part of her social awkwardness.Am I crazy? Did anyone think it looks like she has hearing aids?

  53. lillybee says:

    Is Top Chef a rerun tonite?

  54. Butters'Mom says:

    Hearing aids are so hard to see now aday but it looked like it to me.

  55. TLM says:

    For those who liked the faux emerald earrings Kyle wore on the show, I wanted to let them know that different sizes/shapes of them are available at Emitations in both goldtone and silvertone, and they are cheaper than Jennifer Miller. Here is the link: http://www.emitations.com/angelinasilver.html
    They aren’t as huge as the Miller earring, which personally I don’t think I could pull off. I also can’t wear earrings that have much weight to them. The earrings are apparently knockoffs of real emeralds worn by Angelina Jolie at an awards show. There’s also a photo of Nikki Hilton wearing a similar earring. Enjoy.

  56. Katie says:

    YIKES! Bravo posted a preview of OC and it looks crazy. Tamara gets physical with Jeanna. Good lord.


    • Fairweather Viewer says:

      I kinda threw up in my mouth a little on the little clip of Tamara in the tub with bohunk. Also, I wonder if Slade is paying any child support yet.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      That fight with Tamra and Jenna resulted in Tammy’s b/f and fellow No H8 campaigner using gay slurs. I want to see if Bravo shows it or hides it.

      • vilzvet says:

        Wait, isn’t Jeana gone? Maybe she’s making a few appearances? Would love to see an update on her kids.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Well she was definitely at the wrap party, Tamra tried to serve her with a cease and desist letter because she claimed that Jenna was selling/telling untrue stories about her to the press.

          Her and Jenna got into it and Tamra pushed her. Then there was a melee and all hell broke lose.

  57. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Most telling is that while Kyle is on a media blitz trying to spin her story, Kim is silent. No interviews or press releases. Is this of her own doing, or has Kyle convinced/guilted her to remain quiet while she “fixes” it? She probably blames Kim for having to “out” her that night, and for this negative press she’s receiving for “taking care of her” per the mother’s wish. Most popular housewife, my ass! Quickest fall from HW’s grace? Kyle.

    BTW No one lunges across a limo to listen more closely. It was an act of intimidation and a method to get closer to the victim to attack!

    • klmh says:

      I might have misread the event, but what I saw seemed to be fear from Kyle that Kim was going in a dangerous direction with the subject of discussion. I thought she was trying to shut her down, to keep her from spilling the beans about the house, or wherever she saw that subject was leading to. She is a hot head, but I’m not sure she is capable of a physical attack.
      My question is, why did Kyle demand Kim stay around and not go home? Kim had a driver so why did she feel it was her right to tell her what to do, and is this something new, or normal in this relationship?

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Kyle controls Kim. She “ruined” the party so Kyle wanted to have a talk on camera. She was going to reprimand her and remind viewers how much she suffers caring for Kim. It would be a dramatic moment. Her close up if you will, MrDeMille.

        • klmh says:

          Yes, of course she tries to control Kim. I am just dumbfounded she had the audacity to demand Kim stay there, and then confront Kim’s friend to tell her to have the car stopped. And what was that about? Why would her friend have control of someone driving Kim? Is she Kim’s nanny?

    • lillybee says:

      When Kyle was next to Kim someone, Adrianne?, was holding her arms back as she tried to swing.

    • Debbie says:

      I can see Kyle doing that. Remember in the limo, Kyle telling Kim, “You ruined Taylors party”. “Everyone saw your antics and drama” Something like that?

  58. WSL says:

    “Kyle followed up by telling Adrienne she had no interest in counseling”.
    I didn’t see that. That is a pretty serious act of ignorance & neglect.
    I don’t have any sisters. My favorite picture on the picture blog is of Cussi and her many sisters. I am Godmother to 3 girls that love each other like “Little Women”. I tend to need to be slapped in the face, b4 I believe the worst of someone I like. I am fortunate my “Street Smart” husband is just the opposite.
    I guess I just don’t want to believe Kyle is anything but a loving but inadequate sister. I may be wrong. We sure will see.
    Let’s keep up our correspondence. U r very astute. Thanks for sharing your family experience.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think Kyle does love her sister but there is way more dysfunction and resentment in their family than they are revealing. I think they are protecting their mother from beyond the grave- she must have been bad enough that they have to make her perfect. Addiction is just the tip of the iceberg-and I would be shocked if the buck just stopped with Kim in that regard.

  59. NikkyT31 says:

    Great Blog Lynn. I miss you on twitter. Have a good night.

  60. WSL says:

    I don’t think anyone will torch us. But u & I have a low odds bet and r playing the long shot. I hope we win !

  61. WSL says:

    Insubordinate ? (Kim to Kyle)
    What does that mean ?
    I think I agree big time.

  62. Adgirl says:

    How can someone steal a house?
    Having names changed/removed/added on a title is a lengthy & difficult process.

    I’m sure Kyle’s side of the story is very compelling too.

    Kyle’s anger really turns me off. She has a serious problem with her aggressive temper.
    But I am not willing to “take” Kim’s side.

    There are plenty of former actors who are broke, owe jillions to the IRS, let their spouses squander money or waste money on drugs. Maybe rehab is very expensive?

    Kim may have blown through her money, never received her child support/alimony/residuals or paid her share of expenses on the house either.

    We don’t know.
    Kim and Kyle later bought another house together so maybe the money from house 1 went there.

    And while I am on this rant how long was Kim nursing her mother? Was she prodding Big Kathy to change the will? Perhaps Big Kathy agreed verbally, but never wrote it down or communicated anything to Kyle or Kathy.

    I’m just saying that we don’t know much about what is obviously a long and terrible history in the Richards family.
    There is a lot of hurt and blame to go around.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      How does one steal a house?

      Well, I know this older gentlemen who used alot of meds for anxiety and bipolar. He had a breakdown and went out on disabiliy receiving 1200 a mo. He’d inherited a house from his mom with a clear title/deed and he needed a new roof and wanted the house painted. His daughter, who recently entered his life and moved in, told him no one would give him a mortgage because he didn’t work or have any credit. This was in the early 2000’s when stated income was the rule. She told him to transfer the title to her girlfriend/lover as she was a sheriff and had good credit. For $250.00 they signed a QuitClaim deed and the house was now under the lovers name.

      They told him the loan was for 20k to cover repairs and gave him $200. The daughter and her lover went to Vegas, AtlanticCity and Biloxi and purchased a new “modular” home within a month of the loan. His daughter was taking his check to pay his mtge/utilities and would buy him food.

      Later when he needed a water heater again his daughter said she’d get a loan and the inspectors came by. In 2008 he saw mail that said his house was going in to foreclosure. The mortgage had not been paid for 6 months. His daughter angrily, told him she would no longer be paying his bills and he was on his own. She said if he wanted his house he should call his family to help him get a 120k dollar loan to save his house. From 20k this girl/devil got a 120k in loans against the house. My friend was evicted in July2010 from his childhood home, built by his parents at age 60.

      You steal a home by convincing a confused or financially strapped person, family member that you are helping them. Buzz words like, homestead, taxes, good credit, better rates, income to debt ratios etc. are used to convince the person to transfer title. Always promising it is in name only. Always assuring them they will handle everything.

  63. butterisafruit says:

    Morning All. OMG there is so much snow. I think I woke up in Buffalo, NY.

    • boston02127 says:

      Good morning. 11.5 inches here. No school.

      • butterisafruit says:

        Stoughton is shut down too. Even the train. It’s so heavy and wet I can’t open the doors. I think we got the same amount but it’s that other two-three feet below it that is messing me up.

        I”m supposed to go to Milton Hosp. to see hubby but I don’t think I’ll be able today.

        • buffywood says:

          We have about a foot here. A large branch is down on one of my favorite Magnolia trees, I am bummed. Is you hubby in the Hospital? If so I hope he is OK and it is nothing serious.

          • vilzvet says:

            We got another 16.5″. There is just nowhere to put it. But I do have food in the house and “Secretariat” to watch later. On the minus side the “h” on my laptop is going….

          • butterisafruit says:

            Thanks Buffy, he has numerous health issues now. Nothing to pinpoint. But he’s comfortable and they’re treating him like a king.
            I LOVE Magnolia trees. Mine has taken quite a bruising too. I hope that large limb doesn’t damage yours too much. Love the blossoms.

          • Debbie says:

            I am so sorry to hear about your Magnolia. I LOVE them. If you get to it between now and right before Spring, you can burn the branch end (where it fell off). I hope that makes sense.

            • buffywood says:

              In the Spring I will have to post some pictures om my trees. I have 2 magnolia, one “regular” and one white star. I have 4 huge weeping flowing cherry trees that are amazing, and 8-9 dogwoods both white and pink. What exactly do you mean my “burn the branch end”? Is that better than cutting if off flush with the trunk?

              • Debbie says:

                I mean after you cut the branch. You burn the stump of the branch. I had it done on my dogwood after it froze and it saved it but my mom said it would have been fine if I didn’t have it done. I was just being extra careful cause we had so much freezing rain and it got really heavy and snapped. I cannot wait to see your pictures. Those are all my most FAVORITE trees.

  64. Toront0 says:

    This is a very interesting interview with Bethenny. I didn’t know she was an executive producer of her show. Good for her. I aplogize in advance if this has already been posted.


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