I Hate Jill Zarin A Letter To Jill Zarin Feb 5, 2011

I Hate Jill Zarin A Letter To Jill Zarin Feb 5, 2011

I hope you will all bear with me today as I really felt the need to send this message to Jill Zarin.

Dear Jill Zarin,

Hi Jill, you know me, you call me the “Hate Blogger” but just as you claim that I don’t really know you, you don’t know me at all. I don’t hate, and I’m not a hater and my name is Lynn but you already know all of that. I write a blog just like dozens of other people out there, the blog isn’t even about you most of the time.

I know that the name of my blog annoys you, but when given the opportunity to talk to me about it, you refused. That’s a shame because you never know what might have happened. I didn’t want an interview and I didn’t want to blog about meeting you. You say that I don’t know you and I offered to change that, simple as that.

I know you read the blog but do you read the comments? If you did, you would see the love, caring, admiration and respect that the people who frequent this blog have for each other. Did you know that one of the regulars here sent wigs to other regulars who are cancer patients and had lost their hair? Do you know how many ill and housebound readers find a much needed diversion from a pain-filled life with love and support right here on the blog with your name on it? Any idea how many people have lost loved ones, pets and have had devastation in their lives? They find love and support here.

I think that you know all of this because you do read the blog, you read the blog that my friend and co-blogger Quincy wrote as well, she talks about the name of the blog and I hope that you re-read it with an open mind, you can find that blog here:


Not only do you read the blog but you’ve also posted on the blog, just as a reminder, here is your post:

Karina Katzowski
Submitted on
2010/12/29 at 7:18 am
Lynn..I found this site and find it curious and interesting. What will you do if Alex and Jill and Simon make up? You seem to hate Jill because of them. If Simon asks you to end all the hate..will you? Just curious. K

Jill, thank you for joining the blog but your assumption is wrong, I don’t hate you because of Alex and Simon and I strongly doubt Simon would ask me to “end all the hate“ Jill because you see, he knows that this isn’t a “hate blog” Simon knows, as does the thousands who read the blog that this is far from a place to hate. Sure we snark, we criticize and we analyze, we nail Bravo cast members for their behavior.

When Season Three ended I considered changing the name of the blog, I even wrote a blog about it and asked for opinions, the response was overwhelming in support of leaving the name as is.

Did you know that last season I made a list of your horrible acts? It was really long, it included the way that you treated Bethenny, Alex, Sonja, Ramona and even your so-called friends Luann and Kelly. Not to mention your off camera behavior on Amazon.com, Twitter and Facebook. The funny part is after creating that really, really long list of your bad behavior, the readers found even more that I had forgotten. They added to my list, not just one or two, but a huge list of more really nasty things you’d done, can you believe that? You can find that here:


Let’s not forget that I wasn’t the only blogger who had issues with you Mrs. Zarin, NY Magazine had a weekly section on their web site called, “Why Jill Zarin is an awful person” remember?


Do you think they’ll do it again this year? I suppose that is all up to you.

I can’t count the number of times I’ve been told that I don’t know the real Jill Zarin, that the real Jill is a sweet lady who is loving and caring. Jill, we’ve seen the way you treat your friends, we have seen the way you treat your husband and even your daughter. We watched you in Ally’s college interview, at her photo shoot and as she was trying to get her homework done. We watched as you spoke over Bobby during a television interview, how ungrateful you were when he presented you with a brand new car and how you talked about getting jewelry from Bobby in exchange for sex.

What about the way you treated the other housewives?

We saw how you treated Bethenny several times as she tried to make up with you or even just talk to you, you not only shut her down but made fun of her with Luann secretly listening in, you called Bethenny “toxic” and told her that she scares you. Bethenny scares you? I met her last week and I gotta tell you Jill, I think you could take her, she‘s tiny.

You announced on Twitter that Bethenny had a baby boy hours before she gave birth to a baby girl. You told Bethenny that you kept notes on why you were angry with her, you keep track of gifts and when you do something nice for Bethenny, you throw it back in her face and expect something in return.

And Luann, this is your friend, right? You showed up to her speaking engagement late, texting and talking over her as she was giving her presentation, then you called out asking for a man for Luann, she was clearly mortified and you were not apologetic at all.

You criticized Ramona endlessly at her Tru Renewal event, you screamed at her in Jennifer Gilbert’s home because she didn’t tell you that Bobby Frankel passed away, as you enjoyed the festivities on the yacht party Ramona hosted, you attacked her, made fun of her and along with Luann, completely ruined her party.

You were trying to control Kelly at the reunion, whispering to her to “stop” speaking, (yes we all saw you) you sent her a nasty email because she tried to make peace with Bethenny. You abandoned Kelly knowing full well that she had a horrible episode on St. John. Rather than staying behind in New York to comfort Kelly, you moved forward with your plans to surprise the other ladies knowing full well that Kelly was already gone.

You made that horrible comment about Sonja at Kelly’s Bachelor party. You didn’t give her a chance, you barely met her before you were attacking her.

When it comes to Alex McCord, Jill, I don’t even know where to begin, calling Simon a drunk to a newspaper reporter, you made fun of her children at Luann’s event, you called her ugly at Brooklyn Fashion Weekend and completely bashed the entire event, you made that really nasty comment about Alex’s nude photographs at last year’s reunion. You sent a text to Alex after claiming that she wasn’t your friend, gossiping about Bobby Frankel’s passing . When Alex confronted you about that you were rude, vile and actually apologized to Jen for Alex’s behavior when just moments before you screamed at Ramona. The list of things you’ve done to Alex date back to season one and are too numerous to mention but if there was ever evidence of “Bullying” on any Housewives show, you qualify with your treatment of Alex McCord.

You asked a radio personality to write a positive review for your book on Amazon, when she refused claiming it would be unethical, you told her to do it under a fake name or her boyfriend’s name.

You created a fake name on Amazon, Susan Saunders and wrote yourself a glowing review of your own book, you attacked Amazon’s number one reviewer simply because she didn‘t enjoy your book. Then using the same fake name you posted horrible reviews for both Bethenny and Alex’s books. After months of denying that you did this, although all the evidence was rock solid, you finally admitted that you were, in fact, Susan Saunders and created all of that drama on Amazon.com.

There are plenty of sites devoted to hating on Bethenny, that crazy Angel chick who has apparently lost her vision and hearing but continues to blog about the Housewives, she really hates Bethenny, you‘d like her a lot.

What have you done to me personally? Well, lets start with Twitter, you announced and then followed through with blocking anyone who follows me, contributes to my blog or even reads my blog. Personally, I didn’t care because you’d already blocked me but I received tweets, emails and messages from people who hate you even more for doing that. They claimed that they’d never said a bad word to you on Twitter, yet you blocked them. Do you think that makes you more likable? Or more hated? That stunt that you continue to pull is hurting you way more than it’s hurting me.

When you got that horrible advice from Dina Manzo, you forgot to ask her one important question, did it work? Dina tried it with another Twitter member, it didn’t work for Dina and it’s not working for you.

Then you announced that “someone from Chicago” sent you threatening letters. Now Jill Zarin, you know that is simply not true! You tried to get public sympathy and turn people against me with lies, it didn’t work.

You tried to use a Bullying Awareness Day that was meant to try and protect gay and lesbian teens to your own benefit. As an attempt to get more public sympathy you were claiming that you’d been bullied. You are the bully so I don’t know how you can try to play a victim now, you’re not that good of an actress. There are really people out there suffering and being bullied and tortured in schools and in their neighborhoods every day, how dare you try to use that to your own selfish benefit?

You tweeted that if people are mean to you on Twitter you are going to call their employer and try to get them fired. Are you insane? I can’t even respond to that.

You recruited other Bravo cast members to try to boost your public image, knowing full well before the season even began to air that you were going to look bad. Teresa Giudice lost a whole lot of fans by inexplicably supporting you and while her book did well, it could have done a whole lot better had she not been on “Team Jill“. As Teresa blogged about your show last season, she became weaker and weaker as it became impossible for her to continue to support your horrible behavior.

Rumor has it that you employ professional Public Relations advisors, are they telling you to do this stuff? If they are, fire them. If they’re not, why not follow the direction of people you pay to give you good advice?

So you see Jill, this isn’t simply about Alex and Simon, surely you know that.

I have to admit that your antics have calmed down in the past few months. Your stunts on the internet have slowed, the worst that can be said now is that you’re a name dropper, annoying but harmless. You did post on my blog using a fake name but I actually appreciated that small insight into your thoughts so that I could clear up the misconception.

If you’ve got anymore crazy schemes up your sleeve for this upcoming season, might I suggest that you run them past a professional PR person for approval prior to carrying anything out?

You appeared on Watch What Happens Live last season to promote your book, you made a complete fool of yourself by responding to every question Andy asked you with, “Its in the book”. Even Andy, who has patience and never shows negativity toward any of his Housewives was clearly disgusted with your behavior. Your nephew later went onto Twitter and attacked Andy Cohen and many other fans of the show:


In a moment of weakness, I offered to meet you while you were visiting my beautiful city. You claimed that you didn’t want to meet me because you didn’t want to reward me for having a “hate blog”. First of all, I wouldn’t view meeting you as a “reward”. Lets make that clear. Second, we already cleared up that you know that this is not a hate blog and finally Jill Zarin as you very well know my intentions were good and you would have benefited a whole lot more from a meeting with me than I would have from meeting you.

When given an opportunity to prove to me that I’ve got the wrong impression of you, you couldn’t do it. In retrospect I’m glad that you refused because I really believe that you are just not a nice person.

I feel that you are vicious, cruel and you attack people by trying to ruin their career and take away their livelihood. I’m glad that you failed to get Alex McCord fired from Housewives, she is a good mother and a kind woman, you could learn a lot from her.

At last year’s reunion, Andy Cohen asked you if you’d return for a new season, obviously you did return but here is your response:

“I don’t know if I could do this again, I don’t know if I could film, I’ll be honest with Alex for another season, she clearly hates me, the answer is I don’t know”

Trying to play a game of cat and mouse with Alex McCord and Bravo is a bad idea Jill, Alex has a very large fan base and you obviously don’t have that kind of leverage at Bravo.

Did you know Jill Zarin that while Bethenny tours she absolutely refuses to say anything negative about you. Believe me, the audience asks and would love to hear some dirt that Bethenny obviously has on you but she flatly refuses stating that you two once were truly friends and she would never talk about you, period! That is a class act.

Can you say the same and be completely honest? I don’t think you can, many people who have seen you in person have spilled the beans, we know you talk poorly about Bethenny while you’re out meeting “fans”. Bethenny is a better person that you will ever be.

I really do hope that things improve for you this season, it is going to be difficult for you to recover from all that you did and said last season but here’s hoping you gave it your best shot.

“You have a lot of changing to do and I’m serious!” Bethenny Frankel


Jill admitting to Amazongate:


Until Next Time….

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618 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin A Letter To Jill Zarin Feb 5, 2011

  1. Melinda says:

    oh my god!! I love you Lynn!! you said it all and so wonderfully!! Seriously, Jill……read what she is saying…..if anyone dislikes you Jill then it is because of YOU, not Lynn or anyone else. Personally if Jill didn’t want to meet with you Lynn, that says VOLUMES about her character and that she already knows that she is a very mean and self-centered person. She treats EVERYONE with loosely veiled disdain……even her husband and child. We all see it……it isn’t funny, it isn’t cute……it is UGLY!!

    Alex, Ramona, Bethenny and Sonja have been attacked by Jill ON CAMERA and obviously Jill can’t control the inner RH hulk that lives inside. She bullies Kelly and LuAnn which is pathetic and obvious as well.

    Eh, she may never see what we all see………too bad for her……and at least you can say you tried!


    • Cusi77 says:

      Bravo, Lynn! You are a person with integrity and the list of your qualities can go on and on… and that is the reason your Blog is so successful! I am proud follower of Lynn Hudson! You are so right in every sentence of this letter.

      We do not hate you Jill Zarin. We dislike your antics. But have to give you credit for your bad behavior that brought us around LynnNChicago!

  2. quincyil says:

    Interesting letter, Lynn. One of our board members told us that the truth is the best defense. Every iten that you noted was true. In ancient Greece, Diogenes searched ancient Greece while holding a latern. I think we found a honest blogger.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:


      We couldn’t have said it better ourselves! @Quincy…Diogenes aint got nothing on Lynn! LOL (TrainingDay)

    • twoile says:

      On point or rather multiple points Lynn…ur memory astounds! I’ve certainly lost mine 2 meno etc. Gr8 4 U Tx.

  3. TEB says:

    Well said Lynn!

  4. quincyil says:

    The following is a subset blog created to fulfill a wish by Jill Zarin of the “Real Housewives of New York” that a blog be created to show love for Jill Zarin. It is meant to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about Jill Zarin.

    The “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie by quincyil

    Jill is the best friend on the Planet Earth. If you are Jill’s friend, nothing can stop her from defending you and helping you. Jill will give you shelter in her rented mansion in the Hamptons. Jill will feed you if you are willing to be the family’s personal chef, not cook, for an entire summer. The value of that personal chef’s experience is in the thousands per day BTW.

    Jill is the best friend to the Countess Luanne de Lesseps. When Luann was being filmed for her reality show in Atlantic City, a call came alerting Luann to a retweet from cast mate Ramona Singer that contained truthful , but embarrassing information. Jill Zarin was there for her friend. Jill supported Luann when Luanne insisted that filming stop immediately. Jill also went into the hotel room to discuss the bad behavior of Ramona with Luann.

    Friends of Bravo stars who had children with issues did not fair as well as the friends of Jill Zarin. Laurie of OC’s children were shown to have many problems. They had drug issues, legal issues, and condos full of cat shit. Lynne Curtin’s daughters were shown to have alcohol issues on TV even though they were underage. Lisa Vanderpump’s teenage son came from Idaho to celebrate his mum’s birthday. Bravo had promos that made it look like he had just gotten in trouble for drugs yesterday. Lisa was clear that the concern was from the past and that her son had been in Idaho with his godmother for the past year.

    If you are Jill’s good friend, your feelings are very important. If you are Jill’s good friend, people should not say things about your children. Of course, it is OK to point out the misbehaviors of small boys because that is so cute. Let’s laugh together when we share those things with America. Jill really loves making us all laugh at the little things that she sees as funny.

    Season Four of the “Real Housewives of New York” is on hold as the editors try to create a story line from the material that Jill Zarin and Luann de Lesseps allowed to be filmed. Their contracts say that they are to share any interesting developments that take place while filming. They were filming when the notice came about Ramona’s tweet, but there seems to be an issue over whether or not this event will be on our television screens. The reason that Season Four is not on schedule after many dollars of advertising the premier date took place is probably that the editors are like high school kids and they started putting the show together the night before it was due to be on network TV. It couldn’t be because Jill was very good this season and there was no conflict. It couldn’t be because there was a contract violation when Bravo was not allowed to continue filming the incident which shocked all of us. Jill Zarin helped her friend that day. They stopped filming Jill and Luann. Was there film of Ramona during this time? It was filming season.

    The end


    I wish I had a powerful friend as wonderful as Jill Zarin. Those are the friends that you want to stay close to because they can be a force to reckon with if they get their dander up. When sudden change occurs, there is always a reason. Bethenny told us the reason at the time is never the real reason. Those Bravo contracts must be interesting.

    • California35 says:

      And before I read this I was implying that Jill has no friends. See she needs to thank you, because of you I am remembering that she does have friends… Wink wink 😛

      • quincyil says:

        It’s a Jill Zarin festival on Lynn’s board today. If only she had the internet in Costa Rica, Jill would be jumping up and down on twitter. Todays, gift is a bag of Kim Zolciak’s hair extensions. They only come in blond, but Tabatha has agreed to dye and cut them to fit any of the ILJZ board members. I have an in with Tabatha.

    • Quincy, your subset blog is very informative. It answers a lot of questions. 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        and…it will be sending you beautiful hair extensions from Kim Z, but prepared to match you mane by Tabatha herself…well actually by people she is trying to teach in a formerly dirty salon in Chicago. The extensions will be perfect for you hair, don’t worry.

    • California35 says:

      She will have our back, if we kiss her behind, not say anything negative about her or to her, we cook for her, plan parties for her, get her gifts, introduce her to popular people, invite her to any events have or we go to, laugh at he jokes and snark, don’t question her at all, drop everything for her, man I’m exhausted already!!!! Ok so she will be our “greatest fan” (I think that is what she said she was to B)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill understands that supporting an underdog is a win win situation because it is never proper to toot your own foghorn. And Jill also knows when to let a friend in distress work out their own demons because it is a growing experience.

      • quincyil says:

        Growing is what Jill is all about.

        I think you will look great in your glamour shots thanks to Tabatha and stylists in a very improved Chicago salon.

    • PJ says:

      Ok what incident are you referring to, the one that shocked all of us? What did Ramona tweet?

      • quincyil says:

        Ramona retweeted a video of Victoria using a ethnic slur and with something rolled to look like a cigarette. Victoria was online with a friend and being recorded. Ramona retweeted with the offensive word and the time it was on the video.

        I did not see the video but read some of the posts on the board in real time.

        • PJ says:

          Thanks for clearing that up for me. Maybe it wasn’t Ramona’s finest moment to retweet that. I didn’t watch the video but it has been posted on different sites. I guess since I didn’t have any interest in watching it there wasn’t a big impressioin made on me. Since it’s out there what’s the big deal trying to keep it off the show? It’s not like people don’t know about it.

          • quincyil says:

            I did not pay attention at first. It was not my finest hour either.

          • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

            I think Luann has put the whole incident behind her. Maybe she fears if BRAVO shows it, she will have to deal with it all over again.

            • quincyil says:

              If only our mistakes could be erased or that we could go back in time so they would never have happened….

  5. VincenzoNewYork says:

    What a beautiful letter and quite on target with many or even all the items!
    Jill, if you are reading this…let me tell you this:

    I actually still loved you in spite of all that has transpired and reading this blog. I respected Lynn’s viewpoint of you, because in the end, we are all unique individuals, and we respond and react differently to people. I thought highly of you, and yet, you block me for reading the blog and tweeting to Lynn about the DC show. I never tweeted a negative thing to you! I actually loved you over Bethenny! That’s highly unfair to block a supporting fan, a fan who has purchased your book two times. One was for me, and one was a Hanukkah gift for a dear friend of mine.

    I am a person who believes in multiple chances for forgiveness and redemption..I try my best to see people in a positve light…I always try to after seeing the negative behaviors, because the behaviors you had displayed are in fact common behaviors of many people!! Believe it or not. I believe in change and learning from our mistakes..we are all human..and life is all about learning about ourselves.
    I looked up to you because I am very interested in Judaism and that’s why I really loved you, because I love Jewish culture!!

    That’s up to you if you decide to keep me blocked…that’s your choice…and it’s unfortunate that you continue to persecute people who actually love you!

    This blog is not all about you…the bloggers here discuss other housewives as well. I actually learned so much already from the other people here, and I am glad that I finally started sharing my viewpoints and comments here. The people here are very friendly and we all try to support each other; and our viewpoints are not bashed here. Respect is the bottom line here..respect is what makes this blog very popular here.

    I look foward to season 4 and I hope that you show the viewers how you have changed, and if you took last year’s lessons to heart….I will always try to support you..but treat your fans with more respect in the future….

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Oh Vinny2Centz (your mob name in my mind), you are a wonderful and decent young man. You seem to think that Jill is a kind person who is grateful to her fans and treats them with the utmost respect. WRONG! She treats everyone the same! Cross her and there’s hell to pay! She warned her followers and she means it. Buy her books, tickets to her seminars, sheets and soon her girdles…she wont care. One incident and you are gone!

      You purchased her books, TWICE!, yet she blocks you because although you’ve never written a cross word about her , you read a blog and followed on twitter a blogger who writes on all things BRAVO. You seem surprised and dismayed that she’d do that, yet you seem to forget who you are dealing with. If she could cut Bethenny, her supposed BFF, so cruelly out of her life, why wouldn’t she do it to her faceless fans? You know she keeps lists, to remind herself of what she’s done for people and what people have done to anger her. Missing seems to be the list of what she’s done TO people. Not enough paper in the world for that one! 🙂

      Vinny, even though you purchased books that your fellow posters would only use to kindle a fire, we forgive you. lol Unlike JillZarin, you are not forced to make a choice here. You like her, you like her. Most of us don’t like her, but we respect everyone’s decisions even if they are NUTS! Lastly, because I am a mother and a Realwife, “You knew she was a snake yet you stuck your hand out and she bit you! Good for you!!” LOL 🙂 All in good fun!

      • VincenzoNewYork says:

        @Amber..I know..she did bite me lol. I try to keep an open mind about her…she must have had an awful childhood though…and I try to be understanding of people and their behaviors…in the end I try to accept everone for who they are and not take someone’s negative behavior too personally. lol

        • vilzvet says:

          Vincenzo, you are very diplomatic, it’s a great quality to have. But we hope you have seen the “real” Jill through this board, ain’t it fun!!!

          • VincenzoNewYork says:

            @Vilzvet, It’s alot to digest at once. All I am saying is that hopefully she reflects over her time on camera and decides to makes some changes.

        • Powell says:

          You were taught well by your mother. You and I could totally be friends. I wouldn’t mind sitting down with any of the housewives to find out who they truly are. I’m quite sure I could learn something from each of them. I understand the housewives having disagreements, not getting along and some not liking one another, but I don’t like the name calling, pretending to be one anothers friend, backstabbing and all the other negative antics. These are all the things that Jill, Kelly, Tamra, Danielle, NeNe and Camille have done constantly.

  6. quincyil says:

    The subset blog was inspired by the email that I received moments after this information about the postponement of Season 4 of Real Housewives of NYC. My fellow board member who is thinner, taller, younger and smarter than I am, said that someone is lawyering up. We know that the editors were at work on the story line for the fourth season last Oct when there were rumors that Bravo was begging Bethenny to come back for six episodes. At the time, there were articles on the net claiming the editors were having problems with the story line of the fourth season. During filming season the Ramona tweet event took place and it rocked the net. It rocked our board.
    Why would would something that Earth shattering be exempt from the Real Housewives of NYC? Luann and Jill do not want this event on the show. It’s embrassing to Ramona so I don’t think she would want it on the show. Alex and Sonja are very protective of children so they will vote to keep it off the show. Who cares what Kelly says?

    This is speculation on my part, but I think the editors and producers hit a road block with this particular incident. It could be a great season finale as Bravo seasons have spectacular events in their finales. I think the NYC housewives want to have everyone shown in a good light and this shows Luann and Ramona in very bad lights.

    As you know I am your pretend board soothsayer, but my record of prediction is better than highly paid Bravo mediums and psychics. As always, Jill is innocent. Just a reminder, all of the women of Bravo got a tweet from a mysterious person claiming to be from Sweden with the alliteration, OO, in her name. Jill is innocent because despite being the Queen of the NYC cast, she did not get that tweet. Whoever sent it did not feel that it was necessary to send it to Jill.

    just my opinions…..


    • Katie says:

      Q I need more details, I recall a blow up that Ramona was involved in don’t remember the details or the event. A fight or something? Someone got physical.

      Can you please fill in the blanks on that incident and anything else we might need to know to be on the same page?

      Also Andy said on WWHL that he gets minute by minute ratings of the stuff done on the show (not sure how but very interesting). Could it be that this delay is because they surveyed people and found that without Bethenny many people might not be watching so they needed more time to hype the show?

      • Katie says:

        I recall the tweet Ramona sent of Luann’s daughter that is one of the situations referenced above and how Jill was a good friend to Luann and stopped filming I assume. However there was also an incident with Ramona getting physical with someone (Bravo staff) but I don’t recall the details of that situation. Can someone fill me in if that is also part of this and perhaps being referenced above?

        For the record IF Luann is taking legal action to stop that footage from airing I give her credit for that, she’s trying to protect her reputation. I would too regardless of the contract. If only the Richards and Hilton family were so protective of their private family issues. . . .

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Ramona slapped a Bravo employee on set. And Ramona retweeted the countess’ daughter acting very uncountessly on a homemade video that included drug references and racial slurs – but Ramona was not the only one to receive that video and she did apologize for retweeting it. It is very interesting that Jill did not receive that tweet/video….thanks Quincy for that tidbit.

        • quincyil says:

          I agree…

          We have heard on the net that the hold up with OC was issue having to deal with lawyers and Gretchen’s friend Jay. So we have evidence that lawyers are able to stop a Bravo show from being on TV as Bravo had planned.

          This is speculation on my part. There has to be a reason for an abrupt change in scheduling. I think it’s interesting that Alex and Simon were supporting Bravo’s explanation that they needed time for editing. Jill immediately went out and people claimed she said that there was no conflict and that was the problem. Well, there was conflict. We witnessed that thanks to a board member who was hurt by Ramona sending her that retweet. Cyberspace exploded. Luann tried to stop the bleeding with a statement that she was handling this privately. That should have been enough to stop the people of the planet Earth from discussing the issue as the Countess had demanded.

          If everyone had a great time in the desert riding camels, there was no Scary Island to end the season. What did the producers and editors have? Alex and Jill were nicely tweeting each other. No conflict at the end of filming with Alex. Luann and Sonja would never bother to pay attention to Jill’s quipes. They are really on a level above her so they just ignore her. Ramona had an issue with a producer, but they rarely have producers on the show. (Bravo did have the producer talk with the Salahis before the White House event because Bravo was trying to protect Bravo.) There was talk that Ramona and Luann were feuding on an airplane ride to LA, but later Alex, Ramona and Luann were in photos next to a car that Simon had rented for the ladies to have fun.

          It’s my guess that the women decided this incident would not be in Season Four and Bravo is trying to get it back in Season Four. The threat is to the women as there will be no season four and no more “Real Housewives of New York City.”

          BTW.. Jill Zarin is a yenta and she will be the first of the housewives to spill the beans on this. Jill can’t keep a private thought in her heard.

          • Katie says:

            Thank you both Q and WCW for the details.

          • If You Had It Like This says:

            I think it will be interesting to see how all this plays out. Especially, considering the strained relationship LuAnn and Ramona have had in the past. Remember the whole “Countless” drama that kicked off last season with her and Mario? Oops. I mean Meeeerrry-O.

            • quincyil says:

              Ramona tends to let people fight their own battles. She did not get involved when her husband had issues with Jill to a great extent. Ramona has her own demons as we all are aware. I think she’s used to dealing with people in the business world and ignore some things because she considers the show to be a job. She didn’t like Alex and Simon in the beginng because she felt they were social climbing. Ramona thinks she was on a higher level and if you consider income and wealth, she was probably correct.

    • If You Had It Like This says:

      Very good soothsaying Q. I think you are on to something. Bravo probably knows it struck gold with that Ramona/LuAnn incident and you know they are gonna get it in there one way or another. Even if it means delaying and getting their big guns out.

      • quincyil says:

        The NYC women will close ranks, but will they have jobs if they don’t play Bravo’s games. We should ask the women of the OC and Atalanta who have been dumped about this.

        Someone sent me an email that said that Dec. 10, 2010 the ladies of NYC had a pay increase. This information was on the net and I have no idea if it is true. Jill had said that their original pay was not enough to buy a designer purse. The article cited that they women were originally paid $5,000 which was not enough to pay for the designer purse that Jill pretended to buy with Kelly and her daughters. The claim is that the women would get $50,000 an episode, with 16 episodes in the season that would be $800,000.
        That’s enough for Simon to quit his day job at the hotel. I don’t know if this is true, it was on the net and there is a lot of false stories on the net. After several years of a successful show, the ladies would ask for higher pay and Bravo would pay more becuase they are also sending NYC RH into reruns on local stations.

        These New Yorkers live differently from us. When we have a hand shake that means we promise to agree and we keep that promise. The ladies did not keep a promise when they demanded that the cameras be turned off and they retreated to a hotel room to discuss how horrible Ramona was. They were protecting Victoria. The OC wives didn’t know they could do this. If they did, they would have turned off the cameras too.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Although great for gossip, the Victoria/Luann/Ramona debacle should have been handled privately by Luann. Past franchises have shown the stigma suffered by the children, whose drug and behaviour issues were filmed and shown. We can’t forget the drug usage of Laurie’s son, the underage drinking of Lynn’s daughters.

          That the world knows Victoria was smoking pot and dropping the N Bomb is a given. It has a place on the internet and in newspapers. That it is to be immortalized in the BRAVO vaults to be seen in syndication for years has to be devastating to LuAnn. I don’t blame her for trying to stop that as a storyline. BRAVO’s penchant for drama should not ruin Victoria’s life. I’m not being melodramatic, when saying ruin Victoria’s life. Just look at the lives of BRAVO kids and what happened after filming. Laurie’s kid went deeper into drugs and went to jail. Lynn’s daughters are now known as party girls, drunk and practically naked in pics all over the net. Victoria shouldn’t be in college and cringe everytime, a repeat of RHONY S4 comes on every few months.

          • quincyil says:

            I agree, but that is the danger of signing up for a reality show and accepting money for your agreement that they can film your life.

            • nic says:

              I respectfully disagree. The kids did not sign up for it, their parents did. If Victoria was 18 or over, I’d say no holds barred. But, she is underage and deserves the little bit of privacy in this situation. She’s not Britney or Lindsey. She didn’t seek out the spotlight or infamy. Although it’s a little late to unring that bell, Victoria deserves the little bit of privacy she has left in this situation and not have it rerun until she’s 30.

              • quincyil says:

                They weren’t filming Victoria. They were filming Luann and Jill. I agree that the children suffer, but the list of children who have suffered because of Bravo is long and is on this board at this very moment. I think Victoria’s privacy issues came when the video was placed on the internet or when she recorded the video and gave accesss to that recording to someone she trusted.

              • jillz68 says:

                It is too bad that Victoria showed that side of her but really, this is on Luann and how she has raised this child. Perhaps if Rosie were still in the picture her daughter would be more responsible. Frankly I am not surprised that Victoria could be racist. Her mother has said some questionable things regarding Jewish people and treats those she sees as beneath her in a way that makes me uncomfortable. Bravo is her employer and it sucks that Victoria showed very bad behavior but parents need to think long and hard about what impact this will have on them and their children. I hope Bravo shows the Ramona tweet thing as it went down.

                It is 2011 not 2000. EVERY single thing you put out there will come back to bite you in the ass if you have any sort of public recognition. Hell, people that aren’t in the public eye have their business put on blogs. Nik Ritchie’s site is dedicated to average joes and janes that have done stupid shit and posted pics about it on facebook or wherever.

          • If You Had It Like This says:

            I agree too but I think these ladies should not let their children film at all so they won’t become targets. We never even see Sonja’s daughter. They choose to do a reality show but that doesn’t mean their children do. I especially think the teenagers are tricky because, of course, that’s when kids start partying and getting into trouble. Then anybody with a cell phone who happens to recognize them can catch them getting into that trouble and bam, it can be up on the web almost immediately.

            • quincyil says:

              The Countess has had her children on the show since day one. That was her decision. The Count has to sign to allow his children on the show also. The daughter wanted to be an intern at a designer and the Countess said that she would arrange an internship with a designer on the screen. There are good things and there are bad things. Victoria misbehavied and got caught. Bravo was filmining. Those are the facts.

        • If You Had It Like This says:

          I wonder if they’re really getting 800k. I know these ladies come together and refuse to bring the drama if Bravo doesn’t pay. At least that’s how Atlanta did it. Remember that lackluster reunion last year? They totally stonewalled Andy. I have hear Alex and others say that Bravo doesn’t “make” them do what they don’t want to do though, so who knows what the real deal is.

          • quincyil says:

            It seems like a lot, but I know the BH ladies had to ask for high salaries. They have PR and managers to pay. Why allow filming of your home and children for a small check? $800,000 is a lot to me, but is it a lot of money to Adrean Malloof or Jill Zarin?

            • If You Had It Like This says:

              Yeah, I don’t think there’s enough money in this world to get me on a reality show. Don’t you think a lot of the ladies do it less for the money and more for the fame and notoriety and the opportunities they see for branding themselves and hawking whatever products or businesses they want to promote?

  7. California35 says:

    Good morning, I feel so happy I am here to read the blog this early in the trail of responses 🙂

    Jill has been mean to every person on the show, throughout all the seasons. Either we first didn’t notice, then we thought it was funny, then we were like hhmmmm, then we finally were “done” with her behavior. Yes, others have said things to her or others, but nothing or not like she.

    She is so convincing also, or the people who hear her are just being polite…either because they don’t know her yet, or because they are doing some kind of business with her. Like when Ramona was showing her jewlry to a bunch of ladies, then Jill turns to one of the guests and tells her that Ramona shoukd have given them all a peace of jewelry, that she would have done that, that Ramona is cheap, etc etc. The other lady ended up agreeing with her and even said something negative too. Either way, I don’t think that she has many friends (or any). There is no mention of friends, other than those on tv or related to tv.

  8. Tonia says:

    This was fabulous Lynn.
    I rarely ever post, I say this because since I’m unknown I don’t want to be thought of as a troll or whatever. I have read Lynn’s blog for a while and I totally love it. I am one of many that loved the friendship between Bethenny and Jill. Before season 3 began, I was devastated when I read gossip sites about how they were no longer friends and blog posts eluding to the fact that Bethenny did Jill wrong. No way. I couldn’t believe it. Well once season 3 began, I could see how it was Jill feeding the info to the gossip sites trying to cover her butt. I give this explanation prior to my next comment for a reason. I still read the gossip sites/blogs and really love to read the “blind gossip” sites. Yesterday I read a blind gossip post that really disturbed me. It came from the NY Post. Now whenever I see NY Post, I only think of Jill feeding false info to them. Anyway, these blind gossip posts give clues as to whom it is about but never directly names the individual(s). The post says a NY princess was about to hide a trip to rehab shortly after her wedding because of her considerable p.r. power. Now I know this could be a number of people (if this were in fact even true) but comments made the connection to “bethenny ever after” and princess. Also a commenter referenced another post referring to Bethenny being seen drinking one glass after another of white wine while she was pregnant and this could be the reason for early birth. It is also coincidental that this came up shortly before Bethenny’s premiere date and almost immediately following news that RHONY was pushed back. Granted there’s no real facts here. I could be totally jumping to conclusions thinking it was meant to be about Bethenny. And I don’t believe a word of it could be true about Bethenny (I am a HUGE fan of hers, have the books, preordered the new one and have the yoga dvd) Anyway, I just cant help think that Jill is up to her old antics again but this time stooping even lower. I post this not to stir up trouble, but to share with others who are also Bethenny fans. I guess this so deeply disturbed me that I need to share with those who would also “have Bethenny’s back.”

    • Tonia says:

      major typo…the blind item said she was able to hide a trip to rehab not about to hide.

    • California35 says:

      I hope none of is is true about B. I actually don’t believe it. She is busy with her business, baby and husband. She is making a lot of money and fame. I want her to continue because I like to see a success story and I like her. I also want her to be happy. I wish her well and to stay way from all the “toxic”. A busy woman doesn’t care or even notice about those other little things.

    • I don’t think Bethenny is the answer for that blind item. I love Bethenny but I don’t think anyone would consider her to be a “NY Princess”. LOL! The answer to the blind item is probably someone from a prominent family in NY.

    • klmh says:

      I don’t believe it either. When did this story run in the Post?

      • quincyil says:

        I would not call Bethenny, a New York princess either. LOL.

        Does the Countess count as a Princess? roftl

    • Katie says:

      Ok. Something doesn’t seem right about this.

      Tonia you have the right to post what you want and share the information you want, and I don’t want you to take this the wrong way or start a fight. . . . If I’m wrong I apologize in advance but I feel I’m entitled to my suspicion too and should be able to make the following comment.


      I read that same blind item yesterday via Gawker and went back to it today (see above link) and don’t see any comments on Gawker or NY Post regarding Bethenny with this blind item.

      Where are all comments that you are referencing to that connect this Bethenny? The only comment on NYP is regarding people looking for a job. There are comments on Gawker regarding this blind item but couldn’t find any on Bethenny. Ivana or Ivanka Trump and others more likely to be considered a NY Princess – Yes.

      Am I not doing something right that I can’t see the comments?
      Did the NY Post delete all the comments from yesterday?
      Did you see this via another site that perhaps does have the Bethenny comments, if so can you please share that link?

      I know your declaration at the beginning of your post is you’re a lurker not a troll. I was a lurker too and I don’t want other lurkers to stay in hiding.
      But I find your comments suspect – the intro is intended to put minds at ease that you have the best intentions but the passive/aggressive post makes me think you just wanted to smear Bethenny. I agree I don’t doubt Jill or Kelly could have planted the story but since it appears it never got any attention so why not try a popular Bethenny site.

      I hope I’m wrong and I would be the first to apologize to you Tonia. It just seemed really odd when I went to look for the comments and nothing is there.

      I will even apologize in advance and hope it’s some misunderstanding and please understand if it was some silly stuff about something random and insignificant I would not have even thought twice about this. But accusing a pregnant woman (any pregnant woman) of drinking while pregnant and causing a premature birth is pretty serious stuff.

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

        I, too, doubt this is about Bethenny. She is a hard working New Yorker, not a princess. Nothing was handed to her, she earned it all. Considerable PR pr power, idk, Bethenny is popular and I am a huge fan, but does she have considerable PR power?

      • klmh says:

        The link that you provided, is that it? I mean, is that all there is to the story?

        • Katie says:

          Yes that is the only story on the New York Post and the same link and story that Gawker used as their blind item. That’s why I wrote what I wrote, when I didn’t see any comments.

      • Tonia says:

        It’s your right if you want to think of this as suspect. But i intentionally included my history as a fan to avoid suspicions. I’ve read the bravo and other message boards long enough to realize a newbie gets labeled, sometimes it seems rightfully so. Anyway, basically I saw Bethenny being accused of something by some commenters so I went to the place to share the news with people who would (i hope) understand how i felt about it. I did say I could be jumping to conclusions. And maybe I’m not explaining my self clearly. Look at it this way. You hear people talking about someone that you care about, you want to stand up for that person. (I did comment on the blind post but my comment is awaiting moderation.) I don’t have any friends in real life that watch the shows or even know who Bethenny is. So instead of picking of the phone to dial a friend to tell them I read something upsetting, I commented on a blog where there were people i knew that were fans of Bethenny. I thought that by explaining why I was “Team Bethenny” that you guys would understand where I was coming from. Sorry for not articulating clearly what I was intending or feeling. And I did say that I could be jumping to conclusions. I just really admire Bethenny and where she came from to the success she has. And if someone directly or indirectly says such horrible things about her, it bothers me and wanted to share how that bothered me with people whom I thought it would bother them as well.
        Anyway this is the link where i read the post. At the beginning of the post it references the NY post. http://blindgossip.com/?p=25855#comments
        This is the site where i read the comments about the drinking. Although I can’t recall exactly which post it was (go ahead call me suspect again) But i had a horrible asthma attack yesterday and had to stay in bed all day and I read all the blinds on this site that was over 2 years of posting to pass the time.

        • PJ says:

          It seems strange that you would connect this to Bethenny. I checked your links and just don’t see it. I don’t doubt that there are some that would try and harm Bethenny’s reputation. But I don’t see the connection.

        • Katie says:

          Thanks for the links! That clears that up on why no comments were showing up on the NYP site.

      • PJ says:

        I appreciate the way you handled your doubt about this post. It was very kind and yet on point. I completely agree with you. Everything about this post seems off to me. From the way it begins to the follow up–I have no friends to discuss this with; I spent all day in bed from an asthma attack.

        I have a very close family member who has life threatening asthma. If you have an attack that is bad enough to keep you in bed all day you don’t have the strength to be on the internet, at least my family member doesn’t. If you are in bed all day you are in bed because you’re struggling to breathe and resting is pretty much all you have the energy to do. You’re not researching things on the internet and thinking about friends to call to discuss it with. This is the experience I have had with asthma.

        I felt like I was being manipulated by this post and that those things were put in there to evoke sympathy, to deflect from what the post was really about. It just didn’t ring true to me.

        It started out nice enough but in actuality rather than defend Bethenny it raised doubts about her and got people talking about her. As you brought out accusing a woman of putting her unborn child in danger is pretty serious stuff.

        I checked the links provided and did not see what was referenced in the post. People were throwing names around and Bethenny’s name came up but that was pretty much it. Other names were mentioned too. I don’t think anyone would call Bethenny a New York princess. That would seem to me to be a reference to someone from a rich and/or famous family, although I have no idea who specifically. I also didn’t see any reference specifically to Bthenny’s show.

        I hate questioning people about what they post. Usually people just have different opinions and everyone is entitled to their own opinion so there is no reason to question what someone else says. But this time I felt differently.

        I am sorry if I’m wrong and frankly I hope I am.

    • error404 says:

      nothing would ever surprise me about Jill Zarin. She’d run a blind item in the Post claiming Gloria was a 5th Ave madam if Mama had taken the last lamb chop at dinner Jill had her eye on for Ginger.

      as for truth, Bethenny is all over like a rash, teetering more on the brink of over exposure than the brink of alcoholism. Unless Betty Ford let’s people out for speaking engagements, photo shoots and tv interviews, I don’t see where she had 5 minutes of privacy in the past year, let alone 5 weeks of rehab.

    • klmh says:


      Could you tell us what led you to believe why you thought this had ANYTHING to do with Bethenny? Katie posted the link and I don’t mean to criticize especially a new poster, but what made you think this was about her?

      • Tonia says:

        This is from my original post
        ” Now I know this could be a number of people (if this were in fact even true) but comments made the connection to “bethenny ever after” and princess.”

        • PJ says:

          Well you did manage to get people discussing whether this was in reference to Bethenny anyway. But I think your saying those references were there at all is a big stretch.

          • My guess for the “NY Princess” blind item is Chelsea Clinton.

            • quincyil says:

              Chelsea sure did freak out over that wedding. She can have someone come to the house and stay with her so I doubt she needs to go to rehab.

              I don’t know many society figures in NYC, but the princess thing has a vibe.

              • Nancy says:

                Rehab is A LOT more than having someone sit at your house to babysit you.

                • quincyil says:

                  Not babysit, therapy at home. I think rich people do have help come in to their homes so that they have privacy.

                • quincyil says:

                  There is a TV show called “Royal Pains.” There are MDs and therapists who will come to your home and treat you if you can afford their services. They are called conciege medical services. These doctors also work in hotels and on cruise ships. Dentists and mental health specialists also run concierge services. That is what I was referring to as someone coming to the home to stay with a rich person. Michael Jackson had one, but I wouldn’t recommend him.

        • klmh says:

          Thanks Tonia.

      • If You Had It Like This says:

        I think she meant the commenters. A few commenters on Blind Gossip guessed it was Bethenny. Of course, that’s the most ridiculous thing in the world. I don’t think Bethenny has lived more than a week off camera in the past year plus. Maybe Tonia is implying the commenters are Jill Zarin or JZ lovers? My guess would be that it’s about Ivana Trump.

        • Golden Girl says:

          I don’t believe it.

        • Katie says:

          True and I owe Tonia an apology because my post was about not seeing any comments on NYP or Gawker mention Bethenny so I didn’t see where it came from.

          Tonia please accept my apology, I should have just asked you for the link to the comments!!!!!

    • kbinldo says:

      If the blind item were about Bethenny, why is she still shilling “Skinny Girl” Maggies?

  9. Kukulet says:

    Beautifully, and thoroughly, said, Lynn. 🙂

    Except…when did Jill admit that she is Susan Saunders? Not arguing, but I think I missed it.

    I can’t say that I never said anything mean to her on Twitter-I DID ask her wtf she was babbling about with the “knit hats” comment-but she blocked me as soon as she realized that I follow you. Literally within five minutes. She must watch Twitter like a hawk. Get a life, Jillsie. Seriously.

    What I find most repugnant about Jill Zarin is not the overt acts, which are nasty enough, but the little glimpses of her true personality and the ways that she manipulates people that she probably didn’t intend anyone to see.

    For example, when Kelly called Jill after Bethenny had the audacity to leave Kelly a gift bag. Kelly said, in regard to Bethenny being on the trip, “Her father just died!”. Jill didn’t say what any normal person would say, which would be “Yes, her father just died, she’s newly pregnant, and a few days in the sun relaxing is a beneficial thing for her to do.” Nope, Jill said, “I can’t even talk about that”, clearly attempting to stir Kelly up further by cementing Kelly’s idea that Bethenny was a bad person doing something wrong. That one had a double effect-increasing the animosity between Kelly and Bethenny and increasing Kelly’s delusional distress.

    Apparently, if your “friend” is that distressed, the thing to do, if you are Jill Zarin, is to wreak even more havoc on their fragile state of mind.

    When Kelly came back from the trip and had lunch with Jill and LuAnn, the only one at the table who actually treated Kelly with some decency was Jennifer Gilbert. Gilbert obviously realized that something wasn’t right with Kelly-LuAnn and Jill simply made fun of Kelly to her face and treated her like garbage.

    Those little moments revealed a lack of compassion and integrity in Jill Zarin that sickened most Bravo viewers. She’s been offered numerous opportunities to own her behavior, but she doesn’t take them.

    There’s no “genuine” to the woman. Everything she does is ultimately self serving. Bravo may edit the footage, but the cameras don’t lie about those little revealing moments.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Jill did admit to the Amazongate stuff. I can’t remember to whom. Maybe someone can help us on this.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IIRC it was an interview at a Hamptons book fair. It didn’t seem like an out and out admittance more like an I can’t fight this anymore admission.

        • Kukulet says:

          Oh, okay. I thought maybe JZ had blogged the truth or something.

          Well, isn’t that Jill’s way? Never “Okay, I did it and I was wrong”. Just “I can’t fight all you mean people anymore, so it’s all YOUR fault.”

        • quincyil says:

          Just from my memory… so I could be off here…

          Jill was at bookfair with Bobby and she seemed to admit it. It was on a blog from Lynn with link to the article from the person who asked the question. After speaking to this person, Jill went home. Bobby stayed with her books.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            yup – the Hampton Library book fair!

            • justanothermary says:

              If I recall correctly, she said something to the effect that even famous writers have done the same thing.

            • Dubyaveeyou says:

              I believe Jill’s ‘admission of guilt’ concerning Amazongate was, “Everyone does it”. I understood this to mean–everyone posts positive reviews for themselves or their friends on Amazon.

              • quincyil says:

                Jill said that the reviews came from her account. There were positive reviews on her own book, negative reviews on Alex’s book, and there were hideous comments to Amazon’s top reviewer. The quote and the original article are below. We can bring the Amazon links on to the board so you can go there and read the comments of Susan Saunders also.

              • quincyil says:

                This was taken from the original article. There is a link to the article below. The last sentence is important.
                ‘” I asked Jill Zarin if there was any truth to the story in The Daily Beast that she had asked her interviewer, Doree Shafrir, to post a positive review on Amazon, and then also got caught by Shafrir posting positive reviews of herself. She had a bunch of different answers. My faves: “Everybody does it,” “I haven’t yet commented on that,” and finally “The reviews came from my account. That’s all I’m saying.”

              • LynnNChicago says:

                Yes, that was one of her many responses to the question. But the truth is, not everyone does it…it is unethical and provides inaccurate information to people who are paying their hard earned money to purchase something. While Jill’s books can now be purchased for 99 cents, that doesn’t mean people who spend 99 cents should be duped.

                Another of Jill’s responses was, “The reviews came from my account”. That includes the BAD reviews on Alex’s book and Bethenny’s book in addition to the harassment of Alana, Amazon’s #1 reviewer.

                In the end there were literally dozens of “fake” reviews that were proven to be friends and/or family members of Jill Zarin, most have since been removed by Amazon because it was proven they were fake reviews. Jill thought she would be able to take over Amazon’s review of her book and negate any negative reviews by posting fake positive ones. How many people purchased that garbage book due to the good reviews? They should all get their money back.

  10. tootsie says:

    Lynn, you go girl! A wonderful, truthful and bold letter. You covered it all. That’s our Lynn, whatta gal.

  11. Katie says:

    I think Jill’s head is going to explode! Nice job Lynn

  12. klmh says:

    Thanks Lynn. I hope this is picked up and published on other blogs and releases. She should have so many regrets, but somehow I think she won’t be able to see herself for what she is and what she has done to others. What a sad sack you are JZ.

    • Katie says:

      Let’s count how many publish this without giving Lynn credit. I think half of what we read on other sites is based on information they find on Lynn’s blog and the comments left on Lynn’s blog. It’s like we’re doing their work for them and they just word-smith it to make it look like it’s their own ideas/commentary.

      • klmh says:

        I hope I don’t offend Lynn, but I would like all of this, in one concise article, to be seen by anyone who watches the housewives series. I do hope she gets credit for it though. Well done.

  13. AZ Girl says:

    Well done Lynn. That letter speaks volumes. Jill if you are reading this blog and comments I want you to know that you can redeem yourself and the poster’s here are a forgiving group. But, if you think that another lame PR prank is going to fool us it will not. We are forgiving but smart. Very smart.

    • quincyil says:

      Yes, Jill is a person. We all have compassion here. The problem is Jill does not give Lynn the same respect. Jill was upset that Bethenny would not respond to Jill’s wish to communicate with Jill, but Jill shuns Lynn when Lynn tried to communicate. Jill always does that to people. She punished people before she thinks. No one here wants to be friends with Jill Zarin, but every one here loves the truth and tries to become better people. No one is perfect, but people here want to be better Human beings.

      • Nancy says:

        What really confuses me is the bottom line with Jill Zarin is
        ALWAYS money. Before love, before hate, before ANYTHING.
        Jill has a gold mine at her feet and she doesn’t even see it.
        Dear Jill,
        Call Lynn IMMEDIATELY when you get home and meet for lunch, dinner, tea, drinks it doesn’t matter. If all us “haters” out there (in here) liked you, could you even imagine how your wallet would grow? Think about it.

        • quincyil says:

          I really wanted Jill to have a nice conversation with Lynn. There are enough troubles on this planet and this one could be resolved, but that opportunity is gone now.

      • jillz68 says:

        I think Zarin needs to officially change her name to Foghorn Liesalot. I really hate sharing a name with this hosebeast! I almost never tweet but she blocked me as well just because I followed Ginger Zarin. I think all of this information needs to be put into a glossy newsletter. Lynn could ask Andy to post it in the clubhouse.

        My sister who never watched this show and actually teased me for doing so caught a few eps with me around Xmas (Scary Island, thank you baby Jesus!) and it didn’t take her much more than 10 minutes to hate on Foghorn Liesalot. I hadn’t told her about my extreme dislike for her because I wanted her honest opinion. She gave it and it isn’t pretty. She also said Kelly is batshit crazy and a major drinker (and she really liked Bethenny). I love my sister! And yes, she does have my back! Watch out or she will go California on your ass! Not really I just wanted to say it :).

  14. Brigid A. says:

    Lynn, thank you, thank you for taking us on this journey back in time and providing all these reminders of Jill Zarin’s despicable behavior. The list is endless. But trying to destroy a person’s reputation and livelihood is just pure evil. And Jill attempted unsuccessfully to do this with her former BEST friend Bethenny, and to Simon and Alex.

    I learned something new…. Jill acknowledged she was indeed Susan Saunders? I found my way to this wonderful blog after reading about her attacks on Amazon’s top reviewer, but don’t recall Jill admitting she got caught.

    I was a long-time reader here, always impressed with the intelligence, wit and kindness of the IHJZ community. In fact, this blog inspired me to participate as a poster for the first time on any site.

    Lynn, your remarks about the kindness, respect and compassion of the participants here are so true, but we wouldn’t be here without you providing this forum.

    As for me, recovering from major spinal surgery, my days are always brightened by my visits here and the pain and frustration seem to melt away, thanks to all of you.

    Jill, go play with your imaginary fabulous “circle of friends” and leave us alone.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Brigid, hope everyone brightens your day and hope you have a great ___ annual 29th Birthday too! HappyBirthday!

      Forget your troubles come on get happy, I know a place where they’ll melt away, Forget your troubles come on get snarky, JillZarin aint gonna get her way! LOL Somehow, when one comes here and becomes the Snarkalufagus, the paint just melts away!

      While Lynn’s blog is responsible for bringing a smile to many faces, she is also single handedly responsible for… late dinners, burnt dinners, sparse dinners, no dinners, take-out bills, overflowing laundry, dusty furniture, cardio house cleaning sessions, high lightbills for overworked laptops and computers, broken L O keys from too many LOL’s, repair bills of said computers, and finally, causing husbands eyes to roll as soon as they see Kelly’s winking face on the screen! LOL All that power from a little lady in Chicago!

      • Nancy says:

        Amen sister!

      • Brigid A. says:

        Amber, agree with ALL of the above! LOL! Thank you for the Happy Birthday wishes!

        Just think of all the upcoming drama and fun awaiting us with the Miami divas, especially since the NY ladies are on the back burner until spring! I’m stocking up on salsa and margaritas! Salut!!

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          I love it when posters say they are not going to watch RHWof___! Then the season starts, they hear the snark and boom! Just when you think you’re out, BRAVO pulls you back in! It’s like the Mafia, when you’re in you’re in.

          • Brigid A. says:

            Amber, I hold you totally responsible for my change of heart about Miami! Now I’m all geared up for our Latina Ladies!

            So forget all the housework, bill-paying, laundry, and bring on the Skinny Girl margaritas for our viewing pleasure!

        • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

          Happy Birthday, Brigid A!

          • Brigid A. says:

            Thanks you LL!! It’s coming up on the 8th and I’m loving all the pre-birthday wishes! I’ll make it a loooong, extended birthday party! You all are the greatest! XOXO

      • LynnNChicago says:

        OMG Amber, you’re hysterical, I feel like maybe I should apologize now? hahaha you rock!

  15. PJ says:

    The first season of RHNY I felt there was something off about Jill. It was the way she behaved about the little party that Ramona had that she didn’t invite Jill to. I thought it was odd because a mature person knows that you can’t be invited to everything. But what saved Jill, from me having a bad opinion of her, was her friendship with Bethenny. Bethenny was so funny it was like if Bethenny likes Jill then there must be something great about Jill that I’m just not seeing yet. So Jill’s friendship with Bethenny kept Jill off my mean girl radar. Then came the end of the friendship with Bethenny, and then Jill aligned herself with Kelly and all the bad behavior just flashed like a big old neon sign in a poorly lit neighborhood so that it was all I could see. I have no ill will toward Jill and I certainly don’t hate her I just don’t want to watch her antics for another season. I know these shows have a successful formula with the characters you love and the characters you love to hate. But it seems to me that some of the characters you love to hate are just becoming too hateful to watch. Instead of harmless fun it’s stressful to watch. I wonder how many people in real life would treat the people in their lives the way we have watched Jill treat Bethenny, Alex, Simon and others or the way we saw Kelly treat everyone on the St Johns trip? I personally haven’t met people who act like that past middle school maybe a couple in high school, but that may just be me. But one thing about putting yourself on a show like this is that you put yourself out there for people to like or dislike. If the way you act makes people dislike you then why keep putting yourself in that position and blaming those that aren’t fond of you? Either decide to clean up your image the honest way which is to change the way you act not to try and manipulate public opinion, or get off the show and stop seeking the publicity. The camera has a way of getting at the truth and the people that watch are very intelligent in that they can see the truth. People have opinions and will continue to have opinions, you can’t stop that. No matter if someone blogs about the show or not, it doesn’t stop the opinions. In fact when no one cares to blog or comment anymore that’s when you have a problem because that’s when no one cares anymore and the show is over, and so are your fifteen minutes. So stop the blaming and enjoy the time you have in the spotlight.

    • Kukulet says:

      “But it seems to me that some of the characters you love to hate are just becoming too hateful to watch. ”

      ITA. And, in Kelly’s case, it’s also distressing to watch. It’s simply too clear that this woman has some real psychological issues.

      • Katie says:

        I find nothing entertaining or enjoyable about watching Kelly or Jill. If All Luann has to offer is her class with the countess crap stick a fork in her too.

      • error404 says:

        too dull more likely.

        Kiki: her “style icon” hip girl around town routine is so played out. How many more times can we see her ask random 12 year olds if they are wearing underwear.

        Lulu: OMG. This train wreck is the gift that keeps giving, the acting, the singing, the books, oh vey! But how much longer can we see the rudest woman alive dispense unsolicited etiquette advice? Zzzzz

        Jill: we get it, she’s a martyr. How many more times can we see her cry for 3 days because someone didn’t open a door for her when she was carrying bags, and she’s never been so humiliated in all her life! Give it a rest. That scene of her crying in the car says it all. “I didn’t want this!” Um… neither did we. I might actually just not bother to watch s4.

      • PJ says:

        I agree. Kelly is beyond disturbing to watch.

    • quincyil says:

      This was my first reality show and I thought it was like a scripted show with Laverne and Shirley. During the reunion, it dawned on me that these were real people and their feelings were actually being hurt. I don’t think they knew that people would say mean/bitingly funny things in the interviews because they didn’t watch the OC Real Housewives. It was probably a shock that Bethenny was funny at Jill’s expense. Luann had issues in the beginning of season 3 with Bethenny’s performance in season 1 and 2. She warned Bethenny not to insult her behind her back in the renovated cafe in the Hamptons near Luann’s house. Ramona mentioned that she hated Jill being nice to her face and saying things behind her back. I think that no one said mean things in the interviews this year. They learned a lesson in season three and that has affected season four.

      • error404 says:

        we saw 3 seasons of B saying snarky things right to these women’s faces, so being shocked that she also said snarky things in the talking head is typical Lulu bs. When you don’t like someone, sometimes you have to try and justify it with for-instances. B could have said Lulu was the next Mother teresa in those interviews, and Lulu just would have found something else to aim at B during the reunion.

        and considering the “unfiltered” things Ramona says right to Jill’s face, being surprised that she said things behind her back too is either stupid or a lie.

        I hight doubt any of them showed up for filming having no idea how reality tv worked and what to expect. Big brother way back a decade earlier was doing the “confessionals”. It’s how all these shows work.

        • quincyil says:

          I never watched any of those shows. I was interested in the houses as I love touring historic homes when we go on vacations. There were commercials with the houses in the Hamptons that caught my eye. After watching this show, I began to think of it as a study of Human behavior. I don’t hate or dislike anyone. I never met Jill Zarin and I never will. I disliked her treatment of Bethenny. I didn’t go with Lynn to meet Bethenny either as I am not interested in being a fan of anyone. I do respect Bethenny’s work ethic and desire to be a good wife and mother.

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  17. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lynn – this is the blog that can and always has been respectful while dealing with what could be construed as delicate topics. I agree that Jill monitors many blogs including yours – while it has to be difficult to read post after post of negativity – there are redeeming bits of advice included for her and other wives. You are even handed with observations and they include all housewives, not just Jill. Keep up the good work and even if Jill melts into a puddle of water….there will be others to take her place.

  18. Sg says:

    Would a meeting with Jill solve anything though? It sounds like it would be like a scene straight out of he series…like the meeting between Danielle and Caroline. A lot of screaming, name calling and no resolution 😡

    • quincyil says:

      I don’t think that is the way it would have happened. It would not have been a Carolyn Manzo/Danielle Staub encounter because the proposal was to listen to Jill Zarin’s concerns by Lynn. The women on the shows don’t listen to the concerns of someone else.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Some of them think from the place of how does this affect me first and not what is this person really is feeling/saying….which leads to conflicts without substance.

      • quincyil says:

        I will give the timeline:

        Jill writes to Lynn Hudson on the board from Aruba on New Years Weekend. Please take note that the original contact came from Jill Zarin. She opened the discussion herself.

        Lynn corresponds with a blog at that time.

        An offer to listen to Jill was made before Jill went to Chicago.

        Jill thoughtfully declines with the statements above in Lynn’s blog.

        I write the review of why the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills will never have a blog dedicated to “I Hate….. ” as Jill Zarin does and Lynn publishes it on Sunday morning when Jill is in Chicago.

        In the late afternoon on Sunday, I checked the IHJZ board and board members were reporting that Jill had freaked out on twitter. She was talking about good blogs. Later, she requested on tweeter that someone create an “I Love Jill Zarin” blog.
        Jill gives her tweets to good blogs claiming that they receive 10,000 hits because of her tweet and later she ups that to 15,000 hits because she tweeted their site.

        It should be noted that this site gets 10,000 hits. Lynn has published this and it is obvious that Jill or her people read the blog.

        I created the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog to show that we do see good things in Jill Zarin. We try to be fair. When she does something nice, people mention it here. When she looks great, she gets a shout out here.

        This blog is no different from the thousands of blog who called Jill out for her treatment of Bethenny during season three. The only issue Jill has with Lynn is the name of the blog. Again, Lynn was willing to listen to Jill’s concerns. That was made clear to Jill. Just like all of Jill’s interactions, she chokes and fails to move in the positive direction even with the support of people around her.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          It strikes me as funny that Jill is concerned only with the title and not the content. As for not discussing this with Lynn that says a lot about Jill’s insecurities.

          • quincyil says:

            Absolutely, it’s so Jill Zarin. She only has concern with the title of the blog. She give stories to blogs which have content one thousand times more cruel to her than this one. Yet, she has designated this the “hate blog.” It’s absolutely so…Jill Zarin.

  19. Jinx says:

    Great blog Lynn!! I notice that she (Jill) blocked me on twitter once i started following you. I’ve never wrote that woman EVER!! Any who, as far as am concerned she can kick rocks with an open toes shoe.

  20. sss says:

    Lynn – I love your blog and read it every day. The letter to Jill is spot on.

  21. tegan says:

    Lynn….excellent letter!
    Q….love your blog! made me laugh!
    Bravo…lets see reality footage, not something filtered!

  22. California35 says:

    Lynn, don’t meet with Jill or try to. I don’t want you to have to meet her and talk to her, really. By the way, later she will ask YOU to do a peace on her. You are getting a lot of fans (how many just from here?) and all you do is write – imagine if you did other things!? Jill on the other hand, is trying so hard to be popular with her “products” and her twitting and bragging and anging out with the popular people.

    • quincyil says:

      It’s not going to happen now.

      • California35 says:

        I get that 🙂

        I’m glad Lynn offered because of the reasons she gave her and us, but it is better that they don’t meet. I rather Lyn. Meet with people she likes and who will make a good happy experience 🙂

        She meet Alex, Bethenny 🙂

        • quincyil says:

          Lynn is a good person. I think everyone here feels compassion for Jill Zarin even if we dislike her behavior at times. Jill went on a rampage against this site. The whole bullying campaign is directed against Lynn. It’s outrageous that someone who has been so horrible to people on her own show on film, someone who really tries to harm people like Alex and Simon by trying to get them fired and someone who supports the celebrities that Jill supports would call Lynn, a bully.

  23. WindyCityWondering says:

    I wonder how much of the S3 reunion plays into this season. Andy refused and bullied Ramona, Sonja, Alex and Bethenny – they were never allowed to give their side of Scary Island. Bethenny stopped the well deserved pounding Jill was getting because there were bigger fish to fry. Many viewers shared the same concerns for Kelly’s sanity and the other wives safety, yet Andy chose to give Kelly a platform for more illogical nonsense. So without Bethenny, Kelly left unchecked and Jill unwilling to film with Alex – how could RHNY S4 possibly knock it out of the park?
    I am inclined to think there is some lawyering up going on but if Countess thinks she can have her kids on the show but has approval of what is shown she needs to talk to Jac about Ashley!

    • quincyil says:

      Oh… you aren’t kidding..

      Nene and her son’s arrest.
      The Curtin girls
      Laurie’s kids
      Lisa Vanderpump’s son
      Teresa’s daughter’s comment about marrying a Jewish person
      Ramona’s daughter being critical of Ramona
      Jeanna Keough’s sons being cruel to her
      Vicki G’s son being upset that she visited his college with a camera
      the list goes on and on

      Only the Countess with the help of Jill were able to intimidate the crew filming in Atlantic City.

    • California35 says:

      Kelly got chances to talk on the reunion, Andy even stoped the others to let her speak. I think that was so that we would see that Bravo/Andy gave her the chance…. Of course she kept saying the thing over and over, and take her sweet little time, she acused Bravo, and made everyone loose it… But hey! She got the chance to explain…Bravo and Andy are covered…

      • quincyil says:

        Bethenny was denied her opportunity to dispute Kelly or she was given that opportunity and it was edited out by Bravo.

        • California35 says:

          Yeah, and I hated that. I could see the others getting frustrated (or was it only Ramona? :-P). I was frustrated too because they didn’t discuss the island, and that she is coo coo. Instead she got the chance, and Andy even told the others that by interrupting Kelly, they were looking like that bullies she was saying they were.
          I guess they all just let it go because there was no reasoning with Kelly any ways.

      • Brigid A. says:

        California, still find it puzzling how Andy indulged Kelly at that reunion, letting her ramble on about her “breakthrough” and accusations of bullying on the cruise, allowing no interruption.

        We saw the disturbing reality in those episodes and were even informed that Bravo producers had to intervene and “escort” Kelly home. The personal escort home reveals how serious the situation was.

        Please share your theory about Bravo and Andy being “covered.”

        • California35 says:

          Well, she was escorted out of the island, and I wanted to hear that in the reunion. I wanted to know that Kelly got help, something. Why is she going to be in the show again?? I really thought she would be done, and I even considered that is why Bravo gave her the chance to say whatever she had to say.

          We all saw the episode when she go crazy, we anted to hear from the ladies not Kely’s excuses that didn’t make sense. Bravo still let her speak, so that we see Bravo as fair letting her give her own take on it. Although she made no sense.

        • PJ says:

          Kelly made some serious accusations. They weren’t true, but they were made. I didn’t want to hear her justifications on the reunion. But I think it was important that she be allowed to speak otherwise who knows what accusations she would have made. I don’t understand why she is on the show again. It seems wrong, to me anyway.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA that Andy/Bravo were covered – Andy said Kelly wasn’t forced to go on the trip. Andy didn’t allow the other ladies who were there to level any accusations against either Kelly or Bravo.

  24. terry aley says:

    The NYC Housewives are pushed back to “Spring.” Could Cedric end up back on the Real Housewives of BH again next year? My Top 10 Most Deranged Real Housewives Moments of the Week! http://tinyurl.com/4ehc78a

  25. Adgirl says:

    I am so tired.
    For a long time I really enjoyed RH shows. They were supposed to be a snapshot into the lives of women who lived an elevated lifestyle.

    Now they are all the same; the fighting, screeching, hair flipping, eye rolling, name calling, the ganging up on the designated Omega (lowest rung) female of the pack.

    If I want more of the above behavior, I would volunteer at cheerleader camp!

    I for one, would actually enjoy seeing what Bravo deems is too “boring” for us.

    • quincyil says:

      I think it’s the ladies of NYC trying on costumes in a bazaar in Marakesh.


      • Adgirl says:

        I would enjoy seeing how the well dressed ladies (with cameras in tow) would handle masses of people at the bazaar imploring them to buy their merchandise.

        Would Kelly suggest they start a twitter account? Will Jill give them Bed Bath and Beyonds phone number? Maybe LuAnn will sing “Money Can’t Buy You Class” at them.

        • Adgirl says:

          Does LuAnn know the words to Midnight at the Oasis?

          • Brigid A. says:

            Noooo! Now I have her voice in my head singing that song!!!!

          • jillz68 says:

            Thanks Adgirl. Now I have this in my head as well. YIKES! Luann warbling through this song going round and round in my head. It is gonna be a long night! Just to get you back I am going to throw this image at ya: Cort singing Don’t You Think I am Sexy. Rock on!

    • California35 says:

      I agree!! I wanted to see the glamour, the parties, the sophistication…. Haaaa! Was I wrong 😛

      Out for a while – see you all later 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Gotta agree – no two franchises are alike and there are just too darn many of them flying at us at once. NY isn’t the wig pulling, country club riot weave snatching, my implants are larger than yours, look at my mansion variety. NY is now housewives lite – they are familiar, somewhat predictable and in the greatest city ever! I feel robbed and disappointed.

    • tegan says:

      totally agree with what you said! seems like each new show is trying to one up the other..especially the fighting…pretty soon it is all going to be the same…maybe then even the drama will become boring.

  26. boston02127 says:

    ★。\*|*/。★* —* Great Blog Lynn*—* 。★ 。/*|*\ 。★

  27. Adgirl says:

    Why Anderson Cooper was beat up in Egypt (according to Jimmy Kimmel).

    It’s all Kathy Griffin’s fault!!


    I haven’t laugh so hard in weeks.

  28. jeang says:

    Dont you know that if LuMann has lawyered up and halted the rhnyc, Jillous is going to be livid……and it will get ugly, really ugly if Countless causes Jillous “show” to be yanked. Happy day!!! I can see the self absorbed and self entitled countless pulling that stunt.

    • quincyil says:

      If that is happening, I have a suspicion that Jill will be supportive of her friend, Luann. My guess is the ladies have agreed that Bravo filming goes too far when it comes to children. I think we all agree too. The ladies, however, have signed contracts for those children to be subjects of a reality show on Bravo. The Bravo contract must be an iron trap. Surely, Jill wanted to stop filming last year when she was so upset, but the cameras just kept rolling. No parent wants their children to be embarrassed because it is embarassing to the parent also.

      The excuse Bravo gave for the fourth season of RH NYC was odd and didn’t ring true. It didn’t ring true to a lot of bloggers from what I have read yesterday and today. If Andy had a lot of fantastic film to use in a show, he’d produce it and put it on TV. He’s not doing that so something is wrong.

  29. Adgirl says:

    Bad behavior by the children of RH:
    Under age – do not show us if parent does not approve of first.
    Over 18 they are fair game.

    • quincyil says:

      That should go for the cute behaviors of small children too then. I think Simon and Alex hated the hamburger stabbing happening over and over.

      How old is Victoria? Last year they showed her broken arm when she jumped out of the window. Then they showed her brother popping wheelies. This year, we hear about this video thing. If I was Luann, my kids would not be on the show period.

      • Adgirl says:

        I often see comments asking why we don’t see such and such’s children on the show more (i.e. Grammer children).
        I don’t think it’s a good idea for parents to allow their school age children onto a reality show. It’s enough that we catch a glimpse of them in the background. The behavior of their parents is embarrassing enough.
        Most parents, excluding Alex & Simon, are not grounded enough to suppport their children through the exposure of being on tv.
        I especially feel for the children of the Barney’s and of Kim Z.

        • Nancy says:

          Maybe Bravo should have all the parents on “Housewives” watch an episode of “John & Kate + 8” before they decide to put their kids on this show.

          • quincyil says:

            I actually loved watching those little kids years ago. A friend was having triplets and was on bedrest and she watched the show all of the time.

  30. Mimisfbay says:

    Ooooooweeeee. I take my beloved granddaughter to the train and return to all this action. Well, I just love the letter to JZ and, geez, isn’t she just the gift that keeps on giving? Lynn, I admire that you wish to speak with her because I find the idea of contact with her repugnant. Her behavior, on so many levels, is just appalling.

    I was livid that they delayed the new season. There must be something huge going on because the advertisers $ must be at risk. They signed on, no doubt, because of a successful franchise. Just saying.

    I truly thought that someone…new producers maybe, saw the prior seasons and realized that we have all had our opinions of JZ and others reinforced. It wasn’t until I happened upon a few episodes of JZ in action during S1 that I had an aha moment. Whoa, she was always an arrogant, self absorbed bitch. The trip to the condo with BF was enough for this old lady.

    Come on…they went to North Africa for goodness sake. There is more than enough stuff to feed us. I don’t buy the party line but now I think it is more about legal issues.

    Frankly I am with error on this one…Ho hum. Do I really care about any of the remaining HW’s of NYC? Kelly is nutty and can barely congugate a verb. Sonja is smug and continues her name dropping. JZ screeching in the previews. Lulu…ugh.

    You know Alex is the one who was able to turn around an image problem! Talk about a course correction! She stepped up after S1 and I love her for it. Simon even behaved like something other than a nauseating social climber. I digress, they were the only ones I looked forward to seeing.

    If JZ had any sense she would ask Alex how she literally turned the QE2 around in the Harlem tunnel. Oh wait, it is JZ the arrogant know it all twit. She has made it clear that everything she does it fabulous. You know I accidentally caught her on the dog show…she didn’t listen to the trainer either. She would rather continue to overfeed that poor dog and allow it to attack her daughter than do what the trainer recommended. She is a beast!

    Lynn, one thing you said is that this is a blog for people who enjoy snarking and reading about Bravo shows and most of us don’t care for people like JZ. Why would we? Bethenny struck a chord with all of us because she is naturally funny and gets the absurdity of it all. We don’t know any of these people but they give us an opportunity to observe them and it is fun. My friends and I gossip and laugh about all of this. Bravo thinks we want to see table flipping, conflicts and women dry humping on the floor…are they nuts? Hmmmm maybe that’s it!

    JZ I still hate you because you are truly so self absorbed that you don’t get any of this… Someone said that the arrogant overestimate themselves and underestimate others.

  31. boston02127 says:

    Claude’s tweet—
    Did you ever go away alone? I LOVE it & highly suggest it. Only way to really unwind…getting odd looks from HW fans but oh well!
    Dina—Going away alone must be all you know since Tommy is always with someone else, I mean working. It’s not “odd” looks you’re getting from HW fans, It fans looking at an “old” HW. You decided (yeah right) to leave the show, so drop the HW talk. You can refer to yourself as the hoarder that collects animals and we’ll know it’s you.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Some of those looks are probably pity…. Poor Dina alone again, still, again, still…Thats one of the drawbacks to marrying for money to a man who cheats.

    • quincyil says:

      You’d think that the Manzo men would have their act together after all of these years. Surely, no one person is indispensable. Tommy should take vacations as should Albert. Every Human being need time away from the work place.

  32. Lovin' this blog! says:

    Lynn, NEVER change the name of the blog. IT’S FANTASTIC! Just the other night at dinner, while looking over the menu, I said; “Oh, I hate pasta.”

    Should I turn myself over to the bully police.? People say it all the time. It’s relatively harmless.

  33. jeang says:

    It is typical for Lumann and Jillous to think they can call the shots with Bravo. The other housewives children that have the same deal with Bravo have had to allow all their troubles covered. You signed up for this LuMann!

  34. VincenzoNewYork says:

    I have some exciting news! My aunt through marriage may possibly know Cindy Barshop from RHONYC! They both attended the same high school in Wantagh New York, which is only 20-25 minutes away from me! I just contacted my aunt to confirm if she knew of her…hopefully Barshop is maiden name..I think she is a single mother of twin boys?

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Twin girls

    • Brigid A. says:

      Vinny, that is exciting news! OK, we’re counting on you to get the real dish from your aunt to share with us on this Cindy chick!

      • VincenzoNewYork says:

        @Brigid A: She’s from Wantagh…those girls are rough and tough! I call them Long Island Broads!! lol. They all dress and act in a similar fashion. My aunt’s sister may know of her too..so I’ll try to get information about her high school days!

        • VincenzoNewYork says:

          @Brigid A: I reserved the book you recommended to me last night. I may go pick it up later! Thank you again for mentioning her name and book. It would have taken quite a bit of research for me to figure out who she is.

          • VincenzoNewYork says:

            Also..I can almost guarantee that Cindy is going to have a typical lawng Isssland accent..especially since she is from the southern part of Naussau county!!!
            Jill’s accent is a mixture of Jewish/Queens/Lawng Island accent. Woodmere is very close to Queens and they have very heavy accents.

            • Brigid A. says:

              Vinny, great, I hope you like this book! It certainly can’t hurt gaining this woman’s insights for future reference as a therapist. I can’t say enough about it.

              OK, now I’m really curious about what Long Island Broads (LOL) are like! Relieved the accent is slightly different from Jill Zaaaarin’s, or maybe it’s just her voice that grates on my nerves.

              You know how curious I am about all things New York! This west coast woman is all ears!!!

              • VincenzoNewYork says:

                LOL. Long Island Broads represent a particular group of Long Island ladies, therefore not all of the ladies of this island will fit the stereotype.
                Honestly, LIBS are very similar to the Jersey broads. LIBS, like I said, all act and dress in a similar manner. They like coach bags, coach sneakers, fake tans, big sunglasses, big earings, highlighted hair, straight hair, rhaspy voices, big breasts, Did I mention fake tans?? Some look orange, long fake nails, they all like to wear sweats and ugg boots.
                LIBS remind me of Dina Manzo too…like I said, LIBS are very similar to Jersey girls.
                Now remember Folks, The LIBS only pertain to a certain group that deserve the label. There are some LI ladies that exhibit different traits and are quite classy and elegant. Oh yea, LIBS love leaopard prints!!!

                The traits distinguish them from their NYC and Hudson Valley counterparts…

                Don’t get me started on the LIDS…Long Island D*cks…lol.

                • VincenzoNewYork says:

                  @Brigid A
                  If you do have a NY trip, I suggest you are here for like 2 weeks. You need like 5 days to see NYC-very very very big city and alot to do! Then you need to the lovely Hudson Valley- very peaceful and picturesque towns and with dutch style churches. You also have to see Long Island-especially the Hamptons and Fire island.
                  5 days is really important for the city because you have Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn to explore. Brooklyn is the new manhattan, lol.

                  • Brigid A. says:

                    Yes, I wouldn’t want a rushed NY weekend, I’d want to spend some time exploring the state, but with enough time in Manhattan to satisfy my curiosity.

                    I believe parts of the Hudson Valley were the setting for one of my favorite movies “The Last of the Mohicans” with Daniel Day-Lewis. It was spectacular!

                    I’m determined to get there one of these days!

                • Brigid A. says:

                  Sounds similar to Teresa Giudice as well? Designer bags, leopard prints, the way they talk, the fake orange tans.

                  The Jersey Shore girls come to mind as well.

                  Anyway, looking forward to seeing how things play out on the next NY season with this new addition to the cast. And getting some inside scoop from your aunt!!!

    • VincenzoNewYork says:

      Cindy Barshop:
      This is my aunt’s FB quote;”She is quite a few years older then me but my friend is friends with her. I have heard about her though. I don’t watch that show but I guess I will have to start…LOL”

      I’m sure once the season starts, I’m sure will be able to dig up some high school dirt on her, if there is any.

      • Brigid A. says:

        Well, I’m guessing your aunt will soon be lured into becoming a regular HW viewer! And we’ll have a new, second-hand source for our info on Cindy!

        Thanks for the LIBS education. I’ve learned so much today! Now about those LIDS????

        • VincenzoNewYork says:

          @Brigid A:
          Maybe she might be hooked into the Housewives…unless if NY is boring….I am going to go with the legal issues as the major reason for the postponement of the premiere.

          LIDS- Long Island D*cks
          1) They like to wear baseball hats-
          2)They congregate around the the TV to watch football and other sports and consume excessive amounts of beer and pot.
          3)They like to tell “your mama jokes.”
          4)They sit around together, akin to the sports viewing, but they play video games and consume their beer and pot!
          5)The are arrogant and obnoxious
          6) They work out at Gyms non stop as well
          7)They lack the potential to comminicate or construct a coherent sentence.
          8) They have burping competitions
          9) Speeding is a favorite past-time
          10)They like to drive around with loud music, only in which they can hear!
          11)The list goes on, and may reflect the average U.S. male.

          • nic says:

            It sounds like a lot of the guys down here in the Southeast- or ‘Rednecks’ if you prefer lol

          • Brigid A. says:

            LOL! Thanks, Vinny, sounds like a fairly accurate description of a certain NJ HW’s “juicy” hubby! Excluding all the legal drama, that is.

            Have never been a fan of the RHNJ. With Danielle out of the picture, what will the storyline be? Teresa and Joe’s legal problems? More coffee and danish in Caroline’s kitchen? More strip mall shopping?

            • VincenzoNewYork says:

              @Brigid A: I bought the Book!!
              I am going to recommend: You Can Heal You Life-by Louise Hay
              This book is more focused on the thoughts that we think and it discusses ways by changing our negative thoughts to create a better life for ourselves. Both books combined make a spectacular way to change our lives for the better.

              With NJ- there may be drama with Teresa and her sister-in-law Melissa Gorga. They are rivals and it will be interesting to see how Teresa handles this situation- no wonder she misses Danielle Staub! I think their financial situation will be a story line as well. I feel that Caroline and Jacqueline are irrelevant at this point- they’re just supporting characters and rarely add anything to the show…I would like to see classier Jersey Woman on that show as well.

              • Brigid A. says:

                Have heard of the Louise Hay. Thank you for the recommendation!

                As for the NJ ladies, I wasn’t sure that Melissa Gorga had actually joined the cast. I’m glad to hear she did! Wow, Teresa competing with her more attractive sis in-law?

                As much as I’d like to see Caroline and Jacqueline disappear, too much is invested in the Brownstone connection. The dinners, fashion shows. Caroline’s kitchen scenes bore me to death, and what does Jacqueline bring to the program? Without Danielle, she has nothing.

  35. HD says:

    The blog is dead on…Jill did all of these things…it was not editting. She made a fool of herself. I was always suspect about Jill when she flipped out about not being invited to Ramona’s. Why did she feel she had to be invited to every party in the Hamptons? Get over youself.

    You summed it up perfectly, Lynn!

  36. colibrimoon says:

    Wow Lynn, Jill is a piece of work. When you string all of her shenanigans together this way, I have to say I really do strongly dislike Jill Zarin!

  37. firepainter says:

    You covered all the facts and tied it up with a nice bow of logic! And, you know it’s just killing Jill that she can’t do anything about removing the name of this blog.

  38. Golden Girl says:

    Well said Lynn!
    BTW Jill, I don’t dislike you because of Lynn’s blog, I dislike you because the actions you displayed during the last season of RHONY and thats when I looked online to see if others felt the same way as I do and I found Lynn’s respectable blog.

  39. quincyil says:

    I found the old blog from Lynn and captured the http for those people who were here when the news came out that Jill was interviewed at the book fair in the Hamptons. Alex was there too, but they were not speaking to each other at the time.


    Here is the quote from that article:

    . I asked Jill Zarin if there was any truth to the story in The Daily Beast that she had asked her interviewer, Doree Shafrir, to post a positive review on Amazon, and then also got caught by Shafrir posting positive reviews of herself. She had a bunch of different answers. My faves: “Everybody does it,” “I haven’t yet commented on that,” and finally “The reviews came from my account. That’s all I’m saying.”

    Lynn’s blog announced this and gave the link Aug. 26, 2010. The board discussed it at that time and the comments from the board members are of interest also.


    Lynn should write a book.

  40. WindyCityWondering says:

    AOL entertainment has Sonja saying delays because they have lots of film to go through and there are seven of them after all. Insiders say its because Bethenny left. Sounds like boring isn’t too far off the mark! This is stupid – we could come up with a tons of excuses better than Bravo’s lame attempts. Maybe Team Jill tried to hijack the show and the other HWs wouldn’t play along…..

    • quincyil says:

      Excuse number one:

      The editors are high school students and they left all of their editing for the night before the show was due to be shown on national TV.

      Excuse number two:

      Ginger Zarin ate their film.

      Excuse number three:

      There was a blizzard.

      Excuse number four:

      Their own computer was sent in for repairs.

      Excuse number five:

      The new production staff lost their GPS and couldn’t find their production studio.

      Excuse number six:

      The film from Morocco had to be translated from Arabic.

      Excuse number seven:

      The production staff had food poisoning after eating cold potato latkes.

      Excuse number eight:

      The editors went home in a huff when they were seated in the second row of the showing room behind Ramona and her friend.

  41. Zee says:

    Shew, I nearly feel breathless after reading through all this. Fantastic blog/letter as ever Lynn. I would gladly pony up the postage for this one to make it’s snowy certified way to NY. Happy Saturday gang, did the kid thing all day (I’m WAY too old to be ice-skating!!), gonna take the man out for a beer, go to bed and pray I’m able to move in the morning.

  42. Shannon says:

    Great blog Lynn. Thanks for reminding us of why most of us found your blog. It was all her actions that caused her to be so disliked. She will never see that.

    • FlowerPower (no longer StillaWallflower) says:

      Thank you, Shannon, for putting this so well. I’ve tried three times to compose that thought, but couldn’t get the words out right. (LOL, not sure what my problem is tonight.)

      So I’ll glom onto your post and just say, “Fantastic blog, Lynn!”

  43. Kukulet says:

    justanothermary says:
    If I recall correctly, she said something to the effect that even famous writers have done the same thing.

    Thanks, Quincy, for posting the link to Lynn’s previous blog that addressed Jill’s comments about Amazongate.

    I have to say, Jill’s comment that “everyone does it” (posts reviews on their own books) is bullshit. I’ve worked in publishing for many, many years, and had the privilege of working with reputable, well known authors-and they do NOT post reviews on their own books. They also don’t go into meltdown mode when they get a poor review. A reputable author-and for reputable, see one who can actually write a book worth reading-takes poor reviews as par for the course. Not pleasant, but not worth having a hissy fit over.

    REAL authors, Jill Zaaarriinn, write for themselves, not to impress the masses with how wonderful and wise they are. Therein lies the difference between them and you.

    • Adgirl says:

      I agree in general.

      However, I recently read that Benjamin Franklin often penned Letters to the Editor to his own newspaper under assumed identities and then answer them as Editor. LOL.

      I think he would give his book a terrific review.

      • Kukulet says:

        I think you are referring to the “Silence Dogood” letters – and Franklin was 16 when he penned those to his brother’s paper, the New England Courant. Franklin didn’t answer the letters, although his brother did, unaware that Benjamin was really “Silence Dogood”.

        I’ll agree that Ben would have probably given his own writing a positive review-the difference being that he was smart enough to pull off doing it anonymously. 🙂

        • Adgirl says:

          Ben was quite fond of writing using a pseudonym and responding. Although I don’t think he would be a Jill Zarin / Susan Saunders fan.

          • Kukulet says:

            Sorry, I wasn’t aware that Franklin had done throughout his life…that was interesting to read, thanks. 🙂

            I still have to laugh at the way Jill handled that. Using a pseudonym that linked to her own Amazon profile…that’s just mind numbingly dumb. Yet she continually promotes herself as a smart and savvy business woman.

            Not so much, Jill.

            • Adgirl says:

              OMG it was news to me too. I just read the BF book because everyone has been hooting and hollerin about the Constitution. Well, I learned he had very little to do with it. I guess I forgot all of my American history. LOL.
              He was quite the character . Not much in the husband dept though.

          • quincyil says:

            Mark Twain is a pseudonym. Many female writers used male names because there was a greater opportunity to sell books under a man’s name. Jane Austen fought the battle of using a woman’s name for us in the first decade of the 1800s.

            That said, using a false name to go to Alex’s and Bethenny’s books to leave one star and a nasty comment is not something Ben Franklin or Mark Twain would do.

    • Sparkles says:

      Now Jill can say that as an author she has been compared to the likes of Mark Twain and Benjamin Franklin.

      • quincyil says:

        Yes, this should be in the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog….

        and you should get a biiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggg prize.

  44. VincenzoNewYork says:

    I have to say that on Twitter, Alex seems to be very nice! Hopefully I can keep an open mind about her and perhaps I’ll grow to love her. It’s not my fault bravo portrayed them as social climbers…lol. Oh Bravo.

  45. macandroo says:

    I must say that I thought some of you were paranoid about Ms. Zarin blocking you from her Twitter following.
    Well, it has happened to me, as well. I suppose it is because I follow Lynn, as you have all surmised and confirmed. I apologize to all for my judgment in this matter.
    I really am stunned as I follow several of the women featured on Bravo. I am beginning to believe that Ms. Zarin is a neurotic and kooky mess.
    Carry on…

    • mariareads says:

      LOL! I don’t follow but two or three of the many HW characters but I answered grifter Taylor back when she tweeted some lie about her behavior to Kim and POOF! I am now not seeing her tweets. I think I’ll live. These bitches can dish it out but can’t take it. Wouldn’t common sense tell you that the world (or that little portion of us who make up this housewife world witchery) is watching and everything is up for snark and all behaviors that are bad/cheap/nasty/catty will be called out? Hey Taylor, if you’re reading this blog let me tell you something: I own my house and cars, paid for my kid’s college educations & things are looking pretty damn good. Much better for me than they look for you friplips!

  46. WSL says:

    Hi from NYC. Have pity on me as Quincy & I r the same age & r 2 of the oldest posters. Also I am the most likely to bump into Fog Horn as she lives blocks away from me but under the bridge w/ the trolls.
    Any way,ur names confuse me. What do they mean.

  47. macandroo says:

    Mac-and-roo is a combination of my children’s nicknames.

  48. macandroo says:

    To clarify- I have always known that Ms. Zarin is a neurotic and kooky mess. Because I do not think the way she does, I am simply dumbfounded by her actions.

    I should really know better. I am a criminal prosecutor by profession. I deal with everything imaginable. Surprisingly, I still try to believe in the good in people. Not jaded just yet.

  49. WSL says:

    Real Housewives of New York City: Too Boring for TV? –

    Word is that Camille Grammar has been invited by Zarin to hang out with the other ladies, but has yet to be contacted by New York producers

    Hey Fog Horn,
    If Camille is trying to reinvent her image,the last thing she would do is hang out w/Jill, the most hated HW and the most unrecognized woman in NYC !
    Jill u r delusional. Also remember Camille is Italian & she would probably take Booobee from you. I hear she is a much better kisser.
    Bad idea iLL.
    Other thoughts on Jill’s invite to Camille ?

    • Adgirl says:

      Why would Camille move to NY for Jill Zarin when she wouldn’t do it for Kelsey Grammer? LOL.

      I don’t think Camille likes covering her a$$ests up in the winter either.

      • Adgirl says:

        WSL – I cracked up about Camille stealing Booby away. Now that would be a show! He’s just not fabulous enough for Camille.

    • Kukulet says:

      Jill’s just hoping Camille will get her in with Kelsey. She’s really that dumb.

    • California35 says:

      She really has not changed, wow, she is still doing the recruiting for Bravo lol

    • If Jill is going to continue to leak gossip to the NY tabloids, she should make sure that her name is not going to be featured in the article. LOL! Her idea about bringing Camille to RHONY doesn’t make any sense. Camille isn’t moving to NY to be on RHONY. It wouldn’t benefit Camille at all.

      • quincyil says:

        The article has so many implications. Jill doesn’t feel that 7 NYC housewives is enough for drama. Jill knows the BH was a greater success than NYC and she wants help from them. Jill wants to be friends with someone Kyle has strong issues with despite Jill’s “friendship” with Kyle. Jill still feels she is in charge of the NYC show.

  50. California35 says:

    I keep thinking that Bravo should make some kind of announcement about NYHW . We will keep wondering and might never find out the reason. In the mean time, I am happy to know B Ever After is still on scheduled AND his blog will continue no matter hat Bravo does or doesn’t do 🙂 Thanks Lynn and all the posters for keeping this going 🙂

  51. California35 says:

    I will watch Miami because I like to watch the first season of any of the HW. I don’t know if I will continue watching or if I wil watch closely 😛 but I am wiling to try them. I have only seen the what was posted here, and I need to o back to watch the videos. I do remember seeing one or two girls that look natural….I was pleasantly surprised about that, but I will wait to watch the video.

  52. Zipit Zarin says:

    It’s like an earthquake or tsunami hit and everyone is in shock. Foghorn was CANCELLED! The cause, the aftershocks? WHO CARES? Holy shit balls! She’s been slapped in the face and from what I’ve NOT read, she’s been muzzled too!

  53. Zipit Zarin says:

    And Bethenny’s show will be aired as scheduled. Life just can’t get better than this.

  54. MichellefromNY says:

    I’m just embarrassed that Jill is a member of the tribe. Like they say, “its not good for the jews!”. Seriously. The worst is that she grew up in woodmere which is 3 miles from the house I grew up in. So I’m ashamed that she represents a Jew on the real housewives as a social climbing and nasty douchebag, and that she represents my area of new york. It makes me sad and disappointed. Boo Jill!! You’re supposed to make the five towns proud! Now we are ashamed to admit you’re from here.

    Anyway, OT but my baby is sooo cute and smiling!! I got him on a schedule and he’s finally sleeping through the night thank god lol. I hate that I have less time for this blog, but my Levi is worth it. I miss spending hours on this blog… 😦

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      So happy for you and Levi Michelle! I hear ya about being ashamed of a family member. What can ya do but …well, I have NO idea. lol

    • quincyil says:

      No, Jill is not representative of your people. If that was true, Kelly would represent Lynn, me, and the thousand Irish Catholics on this board. Is Kelly Bensimon in any way like your friends on this board? LOL

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Congratulations again Michelle, I hope you’ll share a photo of little Levi with us! Nothing is more important that your little guy, the time goes so fast, enjoy it! xoxo

    • AZ Girl says:

      Post a picture we would love to see Levi! I still think that is a great name. Yo…Levi..whatsup!

  55. nathania says:

    The whole thing with Bravo in general is that they can’t tell the difference between ‘hate’ and ‘love to hate’ when it comes to their viewers. For me, ‘hate’ makes me not want to watch the show (Jill) and ‘love to hate’ (Danielle Staub) makes me want to watch to see what the person does next. Jill Zarin falls in the ‘hate’ category. Ramona pissed me off alot so she could be ‘love to hate’ sometimes but she has redeeming qualities that save her. Kim Zolciak to me is ‘love to hate’ because she is funny sometimes and has that ‘I don’t care’ attitude. NeNe could fall into the ‘hate’ category this season because of the violence and out of control behavior, though she is nowhere near in the same league with Jill. Teresa Guidice, ‘hate’, Danielle Staub, ‘love to hate’. Camille Grammar went from ‘hate’ to ‘love to hate’ based mostly on the reunion contrition. KKB is permanent ‘hate’ because she’s an entitled lunatic. ‘Hate’ in these terms isn’t so much acrimony as it is bored frustration with someone who has no redeeming qualities and is a waste of air time. Taylor Armstrong is probably ‘hate’ at this point too. To me the ‘hate’ characters are dead weight. I know Bravo has a tough job in that they basically have those two characteristics plus ‘just plain boring’ to choose from, because it’s hard to find people who are normal, sane, and have a fully functioning conscience that want to be on these shows. Kandi Burress is one exception, Alex McCord is another, Adrienne Maloof is one, and Kim Richards is another, although I think Kim R. is too emotionally fragile to be on a show like this and probably agreed to do it thinking her sister would have her back instead of ripping her to shreds on national television. Kyle Richards pretends to be ‘good’ but really should just let loose and take her place in the ‘love to hate’ category. I think when Bravo has a raging ‘hate’ housewife on their hands they should just cut them and give the spot to someone more interesting and relatable to viewers. They refuse to do so. So far they have only cut people because of contract violations or being boring (ATL reputedly). They don’t seem to cut people that viewers despise. They can’t seem to understand that the whole point is that this is NOT Dynasty or Dallas and these are not actors or characters like J.R. Ewing and Alexis Carrington so the pain that is being caused is real pain.

    • Sparkles says:

      Interesting points. I agree there is a difference between “hate” and “love to hate.”

    • Kansas Girl says:

      This is an interesting way to categorize these people and you’ve got me pondering who I “hate” enough to not want to see them again. One of the things I enjoy most about this board is how much it causes me to think. Such interesting ideas! Thanks for suggesting this way to look at the shows!

  56. WSL says:

    Mac & roo
    Thanks ! That makes so much sense.
    Do u know the MooRoo brand. She started making purses on her dining room table & only hired needy women. I met her at an inspirational lunch for a charity in PB called “The Old Bags”.
    (The charity auctions off gently used designer bags for charity)
    Anyway Moo & Roo r her daughters nick names ! She became famous when Julia Roberts started carrying her dining room table made,flower purses.
    So I know honoring ur daughters names, will bring good fortune !

    • macandroo says:

      I am not familiar with the brand. However, I will certainly look into it.
      Thans for the warm welcome. I appreciate it.

  57. WSL says:

    Ur post could b a guest blog !
    I am too tired to take it all in. I am going to read it more carefully 1st thing after coffee. Meantime nathania
    What does nathania mean ?

  58. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Lynn this one line of yours had me laughing my ass off for a good 15 minutes

    “First of all, I wouldn’t view meeting you as a “reward”. Lets make that clear.”
    tears running down my cheeks laughing

  59. quincyil says:

    I looked at Mary Amons twitter and she is trying to meet with Taylor Armstrong in Dallas. The housewives do take hits for their misbehaviors, but there are benefits like being allowed in the celebrity sections of those bowl games that normal people would not get to visit. Even rich normal people arent’ celebrities like real housewives thanks to Bravo.

    They are out there advertising their brands and Bravo every day in the gossip blogs and gossip news.

    Dinah is in Aruba and she is very alone. She tweets constantly and feels that everyone in Aruba is old. How old is Dina? Twelve?

    Jill Zarin is stuck in Costa Rica. Her plane had mechanical problems so she is missing the big game. That must be killing Jill, but she was nice on twitter. I’m sure she is complaining to Bobby, but she has learned not to complain to the public as people do take note of that. She is changing and growing as a person as we hoped she would.

    I spent an interesting evening last night. I saw something that caught my eye and figured it out. I just want to say, “Welcome, welcome.” LOL. Celebrities do visit this board every single day. It seems that what is said on this board is of great interest to celebrities.


    • Katie says:

      I find twitter and the use of twitter by the HW’s fascinating. It’s very telling how much time they spend or don’t spend on it and the messages they send. I think many of the HW’s are in the sad and lonely category.

      I have no doubt that all the HW’s have visited the site many times. Most if not all are narcissistic. But I don’t consider the HW’s celebrities at all. I guess if the board is monitored you have a way of telling who is visiting, can you share some names?

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I’m catching up from late yesterday afternoon, reading the board from bottom up. Now I will be looking much more closely. You’ve got me curious.

      • Katie says:

        Me too, if you figure it out please let me know.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          Well, you’ve got me by the shorts (as my dad used to say). I have no idea. Quincy’s radar is much better tuned than mine, apparently. We did have some new posters yesterday, but they seemed just like us — just people. Quincy, clues?

    • AZ Girl says:

      Mary….nooooooo…..turn away from the Taylor light…….Taylor will suck you into her vapid, shallow, vain world. Again there is Russell which could have you sign on a dotted line to lend him money for his stupid “ventures”.

  60. Katie says:

    Many here have asked and just found the answer on twitter even strangers get a taste of Kyle’s rage.

    @KyleRichards18 Who was that biatch on Mauricio that u said “get off my husband” to?

    Kyle’s reply

    @monicasellshome some drunk girl that we didn’t know . Don’t know how she got in the party

    • Brigid A. says:

      Interesting. Kyle seems to be following in the steps of Alexis from OC who got in a big catfight with a younger woman she accused of hitting on her husband. Insecure much, Kyle? Now you have to get in screaming matches with random women, too?

      • AZ Girl says:

        That was the most hilarious scene ever filmed. Taliban Jim being hit on and Alexis guarding her goods. Then at the end some girl at the dining room table say’s “he not that hot”. Yup…that was great! I never laughed so hard. Burned Taliban Jim.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I don’t even think she said ‘he’s not that hot’. I think she said ‘he’s ugly and he smells’ which is even better 🙂

      • nathania says:

        I am really confused about Kyle.

        That “Taylor Armstrong drunk” video floating around clearly shows Kyle had NO remorse about her fight with Kim until the show aired and Bravo viewers were appalled by her behavior. Clearly, (and lo, how it kills me to say this), Kyle is, alas, a bully. My definition is someone who enjoys physically intidating people. It doesn’t have anything to do with her behavior towards Camille. Kyle ain’t right, and that’s all there is to it. Her inability to even give Camille an inch on the reunion show spoke volumes, pretty much. She was not willing to let it go. I know nothing about Camille’s true nature but I know that whatever defects someone has, going through what Camille went through magnifies them tenfold sometimes, same with NeNe leakes.

        And Kyle would not back off. It mattered too much to her, which is really strange. You can tell she is used to being the pack leader.

        And another thing about that video, what is up with Taylor groping Kyle’s boob? When Lisa called them lesbians I thought it was all in jest, but now my gaydar has a bit of a ping when it comes to Taylor.

    • error404 says:

      Thank God she told us the girl was drunk! As we all know by now, drunks are the lowest form of life and therefore are just asking for violence and rage toward them. It’s all Kim’s fault really, because the girl being drunk and stealing Maury’s attention away from Kyle was just too much of a reminder of the problems poor poor Kyle has with her abusive sister. Why are drunks always trying to seal your husband? Better to publicly expose them!

      • Brigid A. says:

        So true. Poor Kyle surrounded by drunks. She has “drunk” radar and it must be very distracting for her.

        But wait….why would Kyle care who flirts with Maury? Unless the woman is Camille and she is kissing him on the lips? Kyle let the viewers know all season that she’s married to a “hot” guy who worships the ground she walks on. We probably would have seen more of Kyle’s jealous “antics” had she not been policing Kim’s every move.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        Error, you always catch me off guard and I burst out laughing when you say “it’s all Kim’s fault” over, well, just about anything. So funny, so absurd.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Q is was Kyle drunk too, or does she always act like a jealous rabid shrew, anytime a woman gets close to MauricioTurturro(tm)? It seems that the “perfect marriage” has had to have taken a few hits and left a few chinks in the armour. I can understand being a litttle jealous/miffed if someone is overtly flirting with a hubby. It is disprespectul. However, Kyle has show us in TH’s that she is territorial and jealous over her hubby. Was there incidences of infidelity, that causes her to go apeshit when she sees a woman get too close to her money, I mean honey?

        • Zipit Zarin says:

          Nannies sneaking out in the middle of the night?

        • DarkSonnet says:

          Great post. Maybe Camille was accurate with her remarks concerning Mauricio at the dinner.

          Methinks Maury strays and has been caught before.

        • quincyil says:

          Well, Kyle is from a broken home and her mother broke all of the homes that Kyle lived in growing up. Kyle depends on Mauricio for money. He has concerns about her spending and they argue over the American express cards. Sure, she’s scared. That is why she wants another baby. In the first, episode, Kyle is at A&E recording studio and she said that whenever she got upset about her career, she would have another baby and retire. Mauricio was a playboy before marriage and he flirts non stop with clients. Just ask Camille Grammer. Mauricio watches women. I have observed him watching women in the show. She has reasons for concern.

          Camille Grammer shared with the fake soothsayer from her TV show (only I am the real pretend soothsayer as you all know) that Kyle had nannies leave in the middle of the night.

          I think that was an immigration issue and the nannies did not have documents. They didn’t want to be on TV.

          Camille used that against Kyle. I think Mauricio loves Kyle. I think men can be in love with their wife and still play around. Kyle probably hears stuff. I think having another baby will probably be the solution to Kyle’s concerns. It keeps a man tethered. Kyle has a lot of issues from her youth.

          • error404 says:

            Plus Kim and Kathy have 4 kids each too, and one more kid would be one more than them. LOL Did you see how Kylie almost lost her rag old school when Kim said she wanted a 5th kid?

            • HD says:

              I am so lost…maybe its just me…I have to watch the scene clearly but if some woman is dancing up on my husband, YEAH SHE BETTER MOVE! I am not sure how Kyle is taking the wrap for this like she is a bad person. How many married woman want another woman to dance up on their husband? I don’t. Yeah, you better move or the next step will be me moving you!

              • error404 says:

                judging by the way you post here, I’d never had guessed you be the type to go all “Nene Lakes on a Miami tour bus” on someone just because they were flirting with your man, a grown adult who’s actually met people before and therefore should know how to act in public. I wouldn’t act like Kyle because 1. my hubby don’t cheat, even with skanks beggin for it, so there’s nothing to get upset about, 2. if my hubby did cheat, he’ll be doing it anyway, so better to hire a detective and lawyer up, cause bustin some random shank ON CAMERA isn’t gonna insure happily ever after, and 3. when you act like that, all it does is make people think “Poor Maury, no wonder he cheats on her”. Look how many people started feeling bad for Kelsey.

              • Cat says:

                That woman was literally hanging on Mauricio. It’s Kyle’s party, show some effing respect.

    • Cat says:

      Kyle’s twitter comment wasn’t remotely raged filled.

  61. vilzvet says:

    Exact quote from the Season 1 episode I caught yesterday: Jill to the camera: “I don’t hold on to things.”

  62. Katie says:

    Lynn, Quincey or anyone else have you heard about the following (See what I mean about twitter, you learn all kinds of crap) Are they referring to Dina?

    @Real_Housewives @BravoAndy @bravopr @RealOldHouswife we know you want RHOM to be a hit but (cont) http://tl.gd/8kks66
    about 9 hours ago via web
    On Saturday 5th February 2011, @cicimomzee said:

    @BravoAndy @bravopr @RealOldHouswife @AdrienneMaloof @LisaVanderpump we know you want RHOM to be a hit but thousands of tweeters are ready to boycott. You need to be aware a part time cast member from RHONJ is suing a blogger! You get free PR w/bloggers and twitter but it’s about to turn on you. This is not the publicity you want and believe me, you will get lots of it. Are you ready for a boycott of Miami and a twitter explosion or will you tame your old HW and have her call off her 1/2 price, bargain basement attorney!

    mackiedean @BravoAndy I will happily boycott #realhousewives if this is the trash you spring on us. #supportbloggersrights
    about 9 hours ago via web
    Retweeted by JCwasGOD and 1 other
    KateRodgers @BravoAndy Support bloggers rights!! I am protesting all rh franchises until this matter has disappeared.
    about 9 hours ago via Twitterrific
    Retweeted by JCwasGOD and 1 other
    MsFran53 @bravoandy Pay attention puleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Get hold of the wanna be an back her off the blogger .we will boycott HW franchise
    about 9 hours ago via web
    Retweeted by JCwasGOD and 2 others

    • Katie says:

      Oh wait is it Kim G?

      • quincyil says:

        Yes, it looks like Miami is rallying about the older woman mentioned in some blogs. I think we should consider supporting them in this. Fans do have power. I don’t need to watch another show. It could be a nation wide boycott to teach Bravo and Comcast a valuable lesson about the fans.

        • Katie says:

          I’d be happy to support whoever is getting harassed this way by one of the HW’s. My guess is it Kim G but not sure of the other details.

        • Sparkles says:

          I’m all for blogger support, but I don’t see how the lawsuit is Andy’s fault or how much leverage he has to fix it, unfortunately.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Its Kim G. She gone completely nuts.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      How does hurting Miami numbers, tell KimGrandmatell to back off. If anything it would be a boycott of NJ that would have some effect. KimG’s nuts and extremely rich. She is not using BRAVO money to sue, and is not even a castmember. They passed on her and she’s just a hangerson that films for free. Andy can’t control that nutbag, and NJ is too far away to boycott. The old blogger being sued should go to the media and shame KimG into dropping the suit. Who knows, publicity could possibly get her a lawyer who will take her case pro bono. This could be a landmark decision on blogger’s rights.

      Lastly, No Thanks! I’m watching Miami. Sun, Fun and a PsychicMum…I’m IN!

      • quincyil says:

        I guess you are correct. I hate an older woman being abused by a rich woman. There is something so unjust about it.

    • Nancy says:

      Does anyone know what the lawsuit is about?

      • AZ Girl says:

        RealoldHousewife wrote a few blogs about KimG and her antics. Kim G has been really acting crazy lately. One item brought up on the blog was Kim G going to a concert with a young kid. So RealOldHousewife was served with a “cease and desist” order to shut down her blog. Even Kim G. immediate family are worried about her behavior.

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          ROHWOMC needs to contact RobShueter? of Popeater, Page6, PerezHilton, RealityTea etc. to shame that old nutbag into leaving her alone. Once she sees the backlash she will back down. I don’t tweet, but if anyone does they should contact Rob and Perez with the gossip. It is juicy. An elderly blogger being threatened by a rich part-time wannabe housewife…its deliciously evil. KimG must be stopped.

    • klmh says:

      After one of Lynn’s blogs, she mentions ROH receiving a letter from Kim threatening a lawsuit because after one of ROH blogs, there was many many people from NJ posting on her site. I read many of them and they don’t know what in the world happened to Kim but the posters support her husband and family, all mentioning they are wonderful people. Many call Kim a skank, etc. and think she has gone round the bend.
      I can’t find a lot of the comments but I hope ROH hasn’t taken them off. I love her!

      • klmh says:

        I really think the anger comes from the fact that so many people who live in the Franklin Lakes area are calling her crazy, and all are supporting her husband and family.

      • klmh says:

        were not was. Oh forget the mistakes, I make so many of them anymore…

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I’m wondering how they got ROHW’s info.

        I was under the impression it takes a court order to get someone’s IP address from a private domain and another one to get someone’s service provider to give someone’s personal info from their IP.

        Of course- we know some of those Jersey women are connected with all their fund raisers. Who was Big Reds friend who got indited?

  63. Katie says:

    This update Bravo Bio of of this pig tells me all I need to know about what the OC will be about this season. No thanks!

    Tamra Barney, 43, a Southern California native from Glendora, CA, joined “The Real Housewives of Orange County” in Season 3. She has four children, 24 year-old Ryan, and three children with ex-husband, Simon Barney.

    This year is all about fresh starts for Tamra. With Simon in her rear view mirror, Tamra is moving forward with her divorce and has a younger, more attractive boyfriend. Tamra is moving out of the divorcee apartment she fled to at the end of last season and into a house all her own. She has a new gal-pal, Fernanda, and their behavior towards each other sends the wrong message. Tamra is on the go this year: traveling to Spain with her new beau, trying to mend her broken friendship with Vicki with a girls’ trip to Cabo, and double-dating with new housewife Peggy on a wild trip to Vegas. Former housewife, Jeana Keough, comes to the defense of Simon by disparaging Tamra in the tabloids, which leads to a big confrontation. Adding more stress, Tamra’s feud with Gretchen has gotten worse and comes to a surprising conclusion.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      This may be the first in the HW franchise but is has always bored me – I tried but I just can’t get into these women – now that BH is in the house – they should retire this group.

    • Kukulet says:

      Tamra Barney is simply irritating to me, like a mosquito buzzing around my head. Her voice, her attitude, her bitchiness…all buzzzzzz. I’ve nothing against bitchiness…I can bitch it up pretty good myself…but her bitchiness is just pointless and mean spirited. And she never stops whining and crying.

      Women like Tamra Barney, Jill Zarin and Kelly Bensimon…they’re an embarrassment to American women. I prefer the HW like Adrienne Maloof, Lisa Vanderpump, Alex McCord….real women who enjoy varying degrees of wealth, but who actually do roll up their sleeves and work and not just dabble in “journalism” or “home fabrics”, who try to enjoy their lives without needless dramas, manage keep their feet on the ground and put a lot of effort into building true partnerships with their husbands.

      They represent the real American woman. Smart, caring, self sufficient, genuine.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – I much prefer women of substance over simpering snarkettes

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        Vicky is ugly and mean. Just like Foghorn. Twins seperated by fly-over country. Blech I wonder what they would be like together. Both hate the new girl too. Maybe they would end up bullying each other to ….

        • Katie says:

          Just have to say I HATE that “Fly over country” phrase or term whatever it is. Like the east coast NY and west coast CA are so superior. It’d as ignorant when I hear people from Texas thinking they should be their own country. All very ignorant stuff.

          No offense to you Zipit your point about Jill and Vicki is valid, that phrase just struck a nerve and I get why you used the phrase in this example.

          • Katie says:

            It’s as in It is vs. It’d. I don’t like typos either.

          • Kansas Girl says:


          • Zipit Zarin says:

            No offense taken. I’ve lived in what they consider fly-over country my whole life. I meant it in the way they consider anything outside of NY or Cali insignificant. 😀

            • nathania says:

              I’m starting to suspect that a lot of people who watched OC were really wanting more of a BH type franchise. Now that they have it, I think OC is really going to suffer. Because what is the point in watching them, exactly?

      • T-REX says:

        Not watching the OldCrones of the OC. They bored me last season and I have not once watched since the hilarious tupperware party, never even saw the Reunion episodes. I think Tamra is a skanky whore who married for money and when it ran out so did she. I have always disliked Vicki, nothing of redeeming value there, so I have officially “fired” a HW franchise.

    • Brigid A. says:

      Guessing that the Tamra/Jeana confrontation is part of the preview clip where a drink is thrown at Jeana and someone (Jeana?) gets pushed into a pool?

      Have never liked Tamra or Gretchen. Despite all their legal drama, Bravo brought them back but dropped Lynn Curtin. Maybe Lynn & Frank are in some trailer park now.

      • Katie says:

        I never liked Tamara or Jeanna or anyone else on this franchise. I really hope this is the last season and I plan on not watching, I will read about it here or catch a rerun but I rather stay in my Bethenny bliss of happy entertainment.

        • Brigid A. says:

          Katie, I always say I won’t watch the OC HW’s the following season! But I do. It’s filmed in such a beautiful area here in SoCal, and at least it’s nice to see oceanview patio parties at the St. Regis. And the women shop at South Coast Plaza, not strip malls in NJ.

          • Katie says:

            So watch it bit mute the sound? HA!

            • Brigid A. says:

              Exactly! How did you guess? The “mute” button makes watching tolerable.

              • Katie says:

                @Brigid you are too funny!
                So while others are commenting on what the OC HW’s said we’ll be here talking about the beach, the stores how the food looked, if the surfer in the background was cute and the sunset. I love it!

                • Brigid A. says:

                  It’s a deal! Who cares about those OC ho’s??? I’m watching for hunky life guards, surfers, all the background “scenery.”

              • California35 says:

                Ah!! Great idea 🙂

          • California35 says:


            I don’t want to watch that OC either but might, just that i will on the rerun, or simply read about here.
            I’m with you Brigid, I like to see the shopping of it and the views. I’m in Cal, but not by OC. When I go by on the freeway, I wonder where it is all filmed because it doesn’t look that pretty from the freeway 😛

            • Brigid A. says:

              California, it’s mostly filmed in South Orange County with the exception of So Coast Plaza in Costa Mesa where the ladies shop. Lots of designer stores there. St. Regis Hotel is in Dana Point with many party/dinner scenes are filmed there. Vicky & Jeana live in Coto de Caza, an exclusive area. Oh, and some filming is in Newport Beach to the north, very beautiful. You need to plan an OC day just to look around!

              • California35 says:

                Thanks Brigid, it does sound like a trip of it’s own.

              • Katie says:

                A few years ago I went to Laguna beach (really before it was famous for reality TV). I stayed at the Surf and Sand and went to the Art Festival they have every year. It was really a wonderful trip I loved it there.

  64. Sparkles says:

    Such favorable editing for Taylor. If you go to 7:50, you will see the segment where Taylor said that Adrienne is Kennedy’s godmother. This is edited to make it appear that Adrienne is very scrupulous about who she gets close with, and Taylor has made the cut. Not so!

    • Katie says:

      I think it’s safe to say Adrienne knows all about each of these HW’s on her cast and has too much class to tell all. She works with them but they are not part of her inner circle.

    • Brigid A. says:

      It’s too late, Taylor! We all saw you get busted big time for lying. Hope Adrienne has the good sense to stay far away from this woman. There’s a lot of speculation that Taylor won’t return next season anyway.

      • Katie says:

        For me it’s too late for Taylor and Kyle. When I go back and watch the first few episodes again, I see things that IMO shows what ugly vile people they are.

        • Brigid A. says:

          Really, Bravo needs to ditch Taylor next season. What storyline can she possibly bring? If Kim Richards does not return, Taylor will be at the bottom of the pecking order.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I am surprised at how haggard Taylor looks in her coffee with Adrienne scene. She looks even more skeletal. Did the fillers in her temple make that much difference?

      • Katie says:

        Taylor has really messed up her face, she is so underweight and the fillers and crap she has done to her face really messed up how she looks. I wonder how she looks in a bathing suit if the lack of weight is apparent with bones sticking out.

        Parts of her face is concave (at the temples and below the cheekbones) and other parts are protruding so badly (cheekbones and lips). The end result is very unnatural and scary looking. Notice how she wears her hair to cover some of it. She should be able to pull all of her hair back into a ponytail and look great. Even if she gained 10 pounds I think it would help to soften her face.

        • California35 says:

          I agree she is not looking pretty…Taylor thinks her husband can leave her for someone younger, she thinks being skinny and with no wrinkles is attractive, so she keeps doing all of this. I’m sorry, but she looks terrible and the whining does not help either. And let’s not even start about how mean she has been.

        • Sparkles says:

          I found an older video of Taylor.

  65. Laura says:

    BRAVO Lynn!

    Haven’t posted in a good long time…but I do read everyday.

    I was so looking forward to NY starting up but now that they’ve pushed it back until Spring to allow Miami to air…Guess I’ll just have to wait!

    JZ would have benefited from meeting with you…her loss!

    Can’t wait for Spring…so sick of the ice and snow…hope everyone is safe and sound and their hearts are full of LOVE!

  66. WSL says:

    Hi Laura
    R u Laura from NJ that was going to Tree’s home furnishings auction ?

    • Laura says:

      Hi WSL…no I’m from the middle of corn fields Ohio lol…single mom of three teenagers with a serious reality tv addiction 🙂

  67. WindyCityWondering says:

    Lynn’s letter to Jill brings back memories – both good and bad. Jill can’t get past the title of this blog and many bloggers/posters and viewers can’t get past three seasons of her behavior. What I find surprising is that there has been no backlash or retorts/responses from her supporters. She has decided that anyone who reads certain blogs can not follow her on tweeter….could it be that she just doesn’t have enough of a fan base anymore?

  68. shanna says:

    wow…I thought I was a RH fan, but reading all these posts proves to me that I am just a beginner. Luv to u all, and Lynn-you are a special treat-very impressed with the blog!
    Good reading!

  69. California35 says:

    Does anyone know where I can view the Miami HW preview? It was posted here somewhere….

  70. WSL says:

    icantstandthetoxicity (at 8:38 am)
    Except for anonymously leaking gossip to a couple of the NY tabloids, iLL has been pretty quiet. FogHorn hasn’t mentioned anything about the postponement on Twitter or Facebook. Before Bravo made the announcement about the postponement, Tuna Breath, was tweeting a lot. I wonder if NoseLick is worried that RatFace is going to get fired.
    (She edited for te hees)

    Ok u might say that Bravo likes the “evil” one. But Tuna Breath is a BORING evil & she is not so much evil as a delusional mean fool.She admitted to being unpopular in HS. Now JillZarin has power as a celebrity in her own mind & is reliving HS badly. NoseLick wouldn’t be fired for evil but for boring !
    I think Danielle was forced out by cast mates who hated her.(Watch out,someone popular could b leading that effort) Danielle got her own show & went peacefully. Now Danielle was interesting evil w/Danny & co.
    Possibly illegal evil is interesting, plain old high school,mean girl is BORING.
    Now boring is worth firing, in order to avoid Killing fans of boring them to death.
    !!!!!Bravo note the word boring is intentional & is attached to Fog Horn alone!!!!)
    What’s boring:
    Nose cleaning
    Dog poop
    Tacky shiny apartment
    Jewish Mother book
    Missing Ally 15miles away
    Alley chang her name to Zarin(ok
    That’s an insult)
    Showing up unwanted
    bedding in ugly patterns
    Living over BBB
    Being picked up in a rented limo
    In front of a home not yours
    Only having 2 friends
    Being JEALOUS of everyone
    Running after a fabulous crown &
    Never catching them
    Announcing on TV U Givie BJs for

    I left the rest for other LynnFam

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Interestingly enough – many gossip blogs are saying that Jill is the one inviting Camille to NY to film with them…when is she going to learn that she is an employee and not the employer?

      • klmh says:

        Wasn’t she told rather rudely by Andy that she doesn’t have control over who will be on these shows? I think its a lost cause, ttytt. (to tell you the truth) 🙂

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jill has a gift of very selective hearing. She just tosses out the words she doesn’t like until she hears what she believes the correct answer should be.

  71. WSL says:

    More Boring NoseLick isims

    *Demanding the front row
    *Storming out when u don’t get ur way
    *Assuming u deserve 1st row above Ramona
    *Making a fool of ur self in tennis & skating (fat a$s showing in both te heeeee)
    *Forcing Gloria on us
    *Demanding to be included in all
    Events when u r not wanted.
    *Getting a bedding hobby
    *Blocking tweeters
    *Posting good reviews on ur awful book
    *Offering a tel.call to the buyer of 10 books !
    *Mentioning ur awful book every time Andy asked any ? W/Andy

    To be continued

  72. quincyil says:

    It’s Sunday and we are still on Saturday’s blog, but you get a fresh “I Love Jill Zarin” subset blog as I am bored and have finished my chores. You don’t do much gardening in Feb. in Illinois.

    The “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairies by quincyil

    Jill is in Costa Rica. She tweeted that the plane had mechanical problems so they would not be home/in America for the football game. Jill and Bobby are wise to be careful with planes and mechanical problems as your life is more important than anything else. I’m sure Jill was disappointed. Many of the housewives were tweeting about meeting each other in Dallas. Jill never said that she was going, but it would have been fun for her to meet with the other women of Bravo in the celebrities area of the stadium and for those after parties.

    I googled “Jill Zarin Dallas” just to see if she originally planned on going to the event and found an interesting link to Jill’s sister’s site. It was an article about the younger sister wanting fame. Lisa, a lawyer and loving sister told Jill that she had never seen any good come from a reality show, but Jill still wanted fame. Gloria, the mother of Jill and Lisa, had told the girls every day for 15 years that they only had each other so Lisa supported Jill in her quest for fame. Jill had submitted an audition tape to Bravo and received a letter telling her that she was accepted and would she please find other women like herself to be in a show that they did not explain. Lisa said that Jill found two more people. I know one of those people was Bethenny. Bobby said he had suggested Bethenny as they knew she had had experience in reality shows before. They had seen her at an event in the Hamptons. I am not sure which of the other women Jill brought to the show. It probably was Ramona although in the very early shows of season on Jill told us that Ramona was a once in a while tennis partner and she was looking forward to getting to know her. The Countess seemed to be new to both Ramona and Jill when the show started. Although Alex claims that they all had gone to Gotham events for 15 years, none of the women seemed to know Alex or her husband Simon when the show began.

    I really liked the first shows of season one. Young mothers packing to go from fancy NYC apartments to huge homes in the Hamptons. Bethenny telling us their stories through interviews as they moved suitcases to the cars. Even the Countess was moving to the Hamptons. Rosie was there putting the suitcases in the back of the car and looking tired. I loved Rosie. Those early days, neither the women nor Bravo knew what would happen when the families started to meet and share dinners.

    Bethenny was “That Girl!” Remember Marlo Thomas in NYC when we were young?
    Bethenny was fun and funny. The women looked happy for the most part. The kids were normal kids if you can be normal when you live in Manhattan and the Hamptons. I don’t remember Ginger back then. She didn’t make the trip to the car with the suitcases. Maybe, she was in a suitcase and packed already. Bethenny commented on the money that she saw the women spending and thought it was decadent. It was decadent, but we didn’t care because we too were having fun watching them.

    Remember Ramona trying on cheerleader costumes for her daughter and sneaking out of the house to change her clothes so that her daughter would not know what she was going to wear? You had to laugh at Ramona trying to be younger than her teenage daughter. It was funny and fun.

    Everything was going so well for the real housewives of New York. They met Alex and Simon and they all seemed to like each other. Then, something changed. Jill reacted badly to not being invited to a chef cooking lesson at Ramona’s Hampton’s home. They were supposed to be a group of friends being filmed together for a television show so it was odd that Ramona invited the Countess and all of Ramona’s friends and not Jill. Bethenny was not involved in this, but Ramona could have hired Bethenny to be that chef, but she did not. By then, Ramona knew Bethenny was one of the women being filmed too. Jill did not mention the slight to Bethenny, but she did feel the slight to herself and she told us that she would get Ramona back for it. That was the beginning of conflict. Ramona started the battles that have raged on for 4 years now. Ramona decided that she didn’t like Simon van Kempen, the husband of Alex. She felt that he acted gay and dressed feminine. Ramona works in an industry with a lot of gay people so this judgmental attitude seems odd to me. Lots of men dress oddly in New York City. You rarely seem Manhattan men wearing jeans and cowboy boots like they do around here. Ramona must have had blinders on back then.

    Jill tried to have dinner parties and invited everyone. Bravo played a game at one and encouraged Simon to come. Why do we suspect that they knew Ramona would be upset with a man being at an all girls’ night out? Ramona is rather inflexible when dealing with people as we have learned over the years. Somewhere along the way, Jill got frustrated with Ramona and the battles began to be constructed. Ramona went to war with Simon so there was collateral damage to Alex. The Countess was busy showing up the Statue of Liberty and going out with her nieces to enjoy the city while Rosie cooked, cleaned, and babysat.

    By the end of season one, the War of the Roses was in full force. Alex had photographs put on the internet by someone against her will. Ramona was horrified in true Ramona style. Jill and the Countess did not want this to be the way the Real Housewives of New York City were to be portrayed. Bethenny was amazingly silent but she had products to sell.

    We know so much more about the women today. They are all famous. Jill got her wish. Jill looked like she was having fun for the most part so I am sure her sister Lisa, thought that she was wrong and being a reality star was going to work for her beloved sister, Jill. Alex and Simon looked awful. Their parenting looked awful. Their house looked awful. They were spending huge sums of money on clothes and living in a house that needed to be under construction. Jill looked really good. Jill had Bethenny. We had fun. Then, there was season two.

    The end


    Jill didn’t tweet much on the trip so we went down memory lane together. Hopefully, our Jill will return home safely and start sharing every thought with us again tomorrow. I hope you all enjoy your Sunday and this “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      I always enjoy your blogs Quincy. Thanx for all your hard work. 😀

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I marvel at how Jill assumed the role of social director in S1. She showed us how wonderful life in the Hamptons truly can be and how to be civil to those clearly below her station in life.

      • quincyil says:

        LOL… they just come off the top of my head. I think being nice to Jill is easy right now because she is still in Costa rica. She’s going to come back to American and be mean to people I care about and then I’m going to have a really hard time writing those subset blogs.

        I wonder if I can have guest subset blog writers. rotfl…. That would be fun.

    • klmh says:

      Enjoyed that too Q. Tx

    • California35 says:

      I loved this recap – to go back where it all started 🙂

      Question: is the Lisa thing true? Not offending you, just wondering if it was part of the make believe 😛

    • California35 says:

      Bravo probably asked all of the ladies to recomend friends to them. Jill is the only one who mentions it thinking it makes her look important.

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  74. NYCer says:

    Wait, how do you know Jill posted a comment as Katrina K? I think I missed that blog. Sorry if this is in the comments already but not sure if I can get through 366 posts!

    • quincyil says:

      If no one else want to tell you, I will help. A few days before New Years, I and others on the board notice Jill tweet that she was going to Aruba. Several people posted it over time. One New Years weekend a Katrina K posted. Katrina addressed Lynn and asked what Lynn would do if Simon made peace with Jill. My impression was this was a taunt. I looked at my email and there was something from Lynn about that post. She had checked the board as she often does and had seen that email. By then others had addressed that post and found it provocative. Lynn had a dashboard that allows her to control the board. She can see emails. The email was from Aruba. So putting together what we knew of Jill’s location and the manner that the post addressed Jill, many people assumed that Jill wanted to tell Lynn that she was going to smoke a peace pipe with Simon and Lynn would be left out in the cold, alone and with no friends. Lynn addressed the post the next morning in a rare Sunday blog. Because Jill approached Lynn, Lynn thought it would be wise to broach the subject that we all know affects Jill Zarin enough to have her write to the board of this IHJZ blog and try to contact Lynn.

      That request to meet was rejected by Jill Zarin with the comment that she didn’t want to reward a hater.

      So as it stands, Lynn attempted to assure Jill Zarin that she would be fair and listen. Jill Zarin attacked Lynn and called her a name.

      I don’t know how any resolution can me agreed upon when one of the parties runs on pure emotion and has no skills in dealing with conflict resolution. I would think that Jill Zarin would have some training in this as she is a business woman, but I don’t think she knows how to work well with people.

      • quincyil says:

        It was a post, not an email… Jill just posted to the board. I was thinking email because that is what is on the dashboard.

        • NYCer says:

          You made my day by answering! Sometimes questions get lost in the middle of all the comments. Thanks for catching me up.

          Jill is really into alliteration with her aliases. So funny.

          • quincyil says:

            My computer is giving me troubles so I had problems typing yesterday. In the section about the post, the keyboard went crazy.

            I am 100% sure that Jill Zarin wrote that Katrina post. I am 100% sure that Jill Zarin and other housewives are reading this blog.

            There is evidence, sources that are trustworthy and Jill responds as predicted every time she is “poked” with a blog. I don’t believe that she bothers to read the board however. I think that would be too much information for Jill Zarin. She half reads the blog, freaks out, jumps up and down on twitter, ruins Bobby’s evening, and calls all of her family to tell them she is a victim.

            Normally, I don’t bother with the Jill Zarin type of person. I see them in real life, but why bother. Jill is on TV and she has chosen to be discussed by fans so it is perfectly ok to discuss Jill and her behavior.

            I took my kids to the zoo. This is awful, but watching Human behavior in reality shows is like going to the zoo. Bravo provides the show and I watch. They want me to watch, think and discuss Jill Zarin. I am following Bravo’s lead.

  75. WSL says:

    I am going to b a little mysterious. So I tell u that in advance.
    Regardless it is a story about unselfish and gracious behavior
    From a real star.

    For 20 years I have been friends w/ a well known & loved actress (one of the highest International reruns on record). She made lots of movies too. For some reason she really loves me.
    I know she likes my business advice & we also share & encourage each other on our spiritual path. Needless to say, all the HWs would b humbled by her friendship as I am.
    She just returned from doing a pilot & in confidence explained it. I mentioned that one of the Ho wives might fit the plot. That brought up the topic.
    She was dumb founded I would spend my time Ho wife ing. But since I did she mentioned she herd she was mentioned. I was aware of what she was refering to. She remembered one tiny part of the situation. Anyway, to her,it seemed impossible to have happened. Next …………

    As I was leaving, she said, tell me again who it was that I was supposed to have offended.
    I want to remember, so that if I bump into her, I can apologize to her, for something I didn’t do.

    What so lifted my heart, is ,
    she didn’t say that with an ounce of sarcasm but sincere beauty of spirit.

    She is the epitome of Old Hollywood elegance.
    Not to forget a true example of living :
    “Do unto others as U would have them do unto u “.

    She would never march out cuz she wasn’t seated on the front row. But she would probably be noticed & an offered a move to a better seat. She would decline !
    I know u get my point.
    (Please out of respect for her & last me ,don’t guess).

  76. Amber...RealWife says:

    Mentioned up top but felt it important to help ROHWOMC. I’ll be watching Miami as I don’t think the Latin ladies should suffer because of KimG’s BabyJane raggedy ass!

    ROHWOMC needs to contact RobShueter? of Popeater, Page6, PerezHilton, RealityTea etc. to shame that old nutbag into leaving her alone. Once she sees the backlash she will back down. I don’t tweet, but if anyone does they should contact Rob and Perez with the gossip. It is juicy. An elderly blogger being threatened by a rich part-time wannabe housewife…its deliciously evil. KimG must be stopped!

  77. LynnNChicago says:


    A New Page that I created, here I’ve posted some of my very first blogs, starting with one that lists all of the excuses that Jill used last season for her horrible behavior.

    I’ll continue to add the old blogs to this page so visit often! I hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoyed re-reading them. Thanks everyone!

    • vilzvet says:

      Ahh, gotta love Memory Lane! This is great that the oldies but goodies are all here, even though I have actually printed out some of these so I never lose sight of them!

  78. Adgirl says:

    Isn’t it delicious?

    Mean Girl’s feeling were so hurt by the fans reaction to her stunts last season that she put on her nicey-nicey face this year. Now the show is so boring she could lose her job!

    Additionally, Mean Girl is such a meddler & total pain in the ass to the producers off screen they probably want her to be shoved aside!

    That’s what happens when you over play your hand.

  79. HD says:

    Upthread in Tamara’s bio they mentioned her mending her relationship with Vicki. What happened with Tamara and Vicki?

    • quincyil says:

      Tamara wasn’t very nice to Vicky in the Curtin Malibu dinner party. She said things after Vicki left. I think their friendship was damaged when Vicki watched the show and heard what Tamara said to the other women.

      • HD says:

        I thought all of that was water under the bridge. I guess not.

        You know just from reading some of the other comments throughout the months, I have to say, I do not have a problem with Vicki or Tamara. (Not now at least) Vicki never bothered me. I loved her work ethic and I soooooooooo understood her saying get a job while all the other housewives sat around tanning and drinking and then they all ended up in financial trouble.

        Tamara doesn’t bother me at all either. I know she is not the nicest person but she doesn’t bother me.

    • lillybee says:

      Also Simon insisted that Tamara keep her distance from Vicki. He blamed Vicki for the mess his marriage was in. To him, it was all Vicki’s fault.

  80. HD says:

    Quincy this is upthread so you might miss it and I want to know. You said Mauricio flirts nonstop with clients. Where did you see or read that? The only time I remember seeing him speak to what I assumed was a client was with Kyle on their way to eat. Did I miss something? I don’t really ever recall him being with any of his clients besides Camille and I don’t think he flirted with her.

    Also where did you read he was a playboy? Details please!

    • quincyil says:

      I watched him with the women as he and Kyle moved to their table in the outdoor restaurant. Camilee said that she was worked with him in the reunion and she implied that he was always friendly. Kyle called her on it, but the implication was they he flirted with Camille. Before the show started, I read articles on him trying to find out the country of his ancestors. I am interested in names. He came from Mexico City to Bel Aire in 1976 with his family. He is described as charismatic, athletic, and attractive in articles. My impression was that he was popular with women. He met Kyle when she had a young daughter. Kyle is shown during this period in photos drinking in night clubs. I read a lot, and that was my impression from research.

      • HD says:

        Okay. So this is your impression of him and not a fact or anything that can be substantiated by anyone?

        • BambiBaby22 says:

          I just don’t find him attractive. He looks ackward (for lack of a better word)……like he is hiding something.

          • BambiBaby22 says:

            oops…I meant ” awkward”

            • FlowerPower (no longer StillaWallflower) says:

              LOL. I love ackward!!!! Can I use it?
              I think Taylor looks ackward (with the emphasis on ACK!)

          • HD says:

            @ Bridget-I do not find him attractive personally but I can see how some woman would. Kyle is very pretty to me as well. They have a very beautiful family. However, he is not someone I would look twice at. Quite honestly the only husband of the franchise I thought was really cute was Mario. Other than that, nope. Not my type at all!!

            • HD says:

              @ Bambi…I am not sure why I typed Bridget. LOL! I had a whole different name not anything that remotely sounded like Bridget. LOL! I am cracking up. My bad.

            • Katie says:

              He has that tall, dark and handsome thing going. Latin Rico Suave with a good body. not my type, but nice to look at. Taking personalities and sexual preferences out of it. Cedric was very attractive, scummy but again I said just physical looks.

              • HD says:

                Yes, Cedric is attractive as well. I never considered him due to his sexual orientation as you mentioned. None of the housewives (minus Ramona in my mind) have a man that I would truly even look at. Look at Peter…ummmmmmm no….Greg….I think not, Russell…you gotta be kidding, Lisa’s husband…not on a bad day, Bobby…yeah right…Donn…nope, can’t do it. The list goes on and on. None of them are physically attractive to me. I think these women look pretty good and the men…well…it leaves a lot to be desired. Has Bravo ever considered a Real House Husbands?

                • OneMoreInBoston says:

                  I thought Stacey’s husband was super adorable -but so forgettable I can’t remember his name. He needed to stop talking about the penis measurer though. Mary’s husband was pretty cute- but Ebong left me kind of cold. He might be better looking in real life though.

                  Loved me some Mario.
                  Loved me the Brit that married Kat- that I also can’t remember his name.

                  I liked Gregg ALOT. I am not attracted to him- He comes across as a little grandfatherly to me, but in season 1 I adored him. I thought he was the voice of reason.

                  Phaedra’s Appollo is one hunk o hunk of burning love. The football player that Kandi was dating, was kinda a jerky boy but was easy on the eyes. KimZ’s footballer:ditto.

                  I actually think Andy Cohen is very cute, and I remember when he told Theresa he was gay and was offended by the comments her husband made- I was like -sigh-oh well.

                  OK that’s enuf- I really need to get back in bed!

                • California35 says:

                  Not Bethenny’s??!! 🙂

        • quincyil says:

          I’m sure people who know him could confirm. The articles implied.

          • HD says:

            I would like to hear (or read) those people actually say that. Until I do, I assume he is on the up and up. Once some evidence comes out like Camille and Kelsy that is blatantly obvious and out there, I will not project onto him.

            • quincyil says:

              I am writing “Million Dollar Listing” and he is going to be on that show so we will see him work.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        A friend of mine is married to a Costa Rican who reminds me a lot of Mauricio. His behavior is the same — flirtatious and friendly, always joking and has time to give women a little attention. This is cultural behavior, as well as a bit of his friendly personality. He is faithful to his wife and means nothing with his behavior. I find him charming and lots of fun. So I’ve laughed while watching Mauricio, as it’s so much like William.

        • Sparkles says:

          That’s my sense of Mauricio as well. A charmer, not a cheater.

          • Katie says:

            I assumed he needed to be charming (even if it’s a bit much and can be a bit phony) for his profession. Plus he’s in sales and has to be attentive and easy going with people all people (small talk stuff) to be successful. He is just as out going with the guys, but he does that air kissing crap I can’t stand with the females. Yuck! But never thought he was a cheater or womanizer.

            • HD says:

              Right. I know someone just like that. He does all that extra smiling/hugging/you know just what we would consider overboard for the “normal” person because he has a job dealing with people and whatnot. I know him and his wife who have been married for decades so I just know he is doing his “job” so to speak.

              I think nothing of Kyle’s husband in regards to cheating. By now, with that excellent “researchers” we have on this board it would have surfaced.

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                That settles it.
                I am flying to Bel Air in the morning and I will attempt to seduce him.
                I will report back if I am successful.
                I will not report back if I am unsuccessful but will go shopping instead.
                In a red clown nose.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      I guess they ALL have brands now…….this is getting ridiculous.

    • Katie says:

      I think this is BRILLIANT of Ramona to come out with her own wine. It’s her thing, I won’t buy it but I think it’s very funny and I get why she did it.

      Rip off of Spanx and Bed Linen I don’t get. . . . and I won’t be buying.

    • lillybee says:

      Lol, I just poured a glass of Pinot Grigio.

  81. rachel says:

    what is wrong with you you psycho. You are INSANE. JUST SHUT UP AND GET A LIFE. CRAZY PEOPLE

    • HD says:

      Us or Jill? I’m lost.

      • Katie says:

        I assumed “Rachel” was referring to Lynn and everyone on the site. My guess is it’s Jill, Kelly, Taylor or Kyle. Or a psycho who feels the need to protect one of them.

        • Katie says:

          Jill and Kelly seem to be the only 2 out of the 4 I mentioned that are home and tweeting. So do the math.

    • quincyil says:

      Jillzarin‎ We had beautiful trip. Sign up for my newsletter for gossip and photos! sign up at jillzarin.com
      Twitter – 1 hour ago

      Jill is home.

      • Katie says:

        Welcome Home! My guess Jill or Kelly who are at home and bored to tears. No fabulous parties or places to go.

        • HD says:

          Thanks, Katie.

          @ Rachel-Honestly, who takes the time to read a blog, create a name, AND comment if you are not THAT concerned. Go on and sit down somewhere because we do not look stupid, YOU DO! This is an I HATE JILL ZARIN BLOG!!! Did you not catch that when you googled it or found it! The name is RATHER OBVIOUS! Yet here you are commenting. GTFU AND STFU! Really! I am hardly in the mood.

          People kill me wanting to comment on how lame the site is yet steady commenting. Go on somewhere! Sheesh!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Hi Rachel!
      Thank you for your contribution to the blog. The Lynn Family welcomes all opinions just as long as they do not insult anyone else.

      Since you are a new member, I can tell that perhaps you didn’t realize that we have a courtesy rule.

      Words like “you psycho” “You are insane” “CRAZY PEOPLE” “JUST SHUT UP” are not welcomed here, although of course you are.

      Please curtail from using offensive language in the future, and I know we’ll all get along just fine.

      Again, thank you for posting and


      • quincyil says:

        rotfl… I love you one more in Boston.

        Jill just got home and she missed her Super Bowl experience in Dallas with Taylor Armstrong in the celebrity section. She’s tired.

        She goes to Chicago and gets a Blog dedicated to why she is the only real houswive with a blog of this design. Then she comes home and looks google alert on Jill Zarin to find a letter to Jill Zarin from Lynn and a board filled with the discussion of Amazongate, her Katrina post to Lynn, and that her show has been postponed with no date to be shown. She has a premier party on the 15 for her girdles with no primier. It’s enough to drive someone to a blog to scream at the top of her lungs at people who get together to discuss the shows that Bravo provides for us to discuss. Not being able to control Lynn and cyberspace is a bit much for Rachel.

      • HD says:

        LOL @ OMIB. Your approach was better than mine. LOL!!! I tend to go off when someone is judging us. Don’t get me started. But I do cosign OMIB, you are more than welcome here, shoot, this isn’t my blog, I don’t care who posts comments but don’t come in here clowning because if you do, I have been known to zip up clown suits. 🙂

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I will wear a big red nose in your honor at the next event that you present at. That way you will know that it is me.
          Please ask security not to remove the middle aged bottle blond rocking out the aging cocktail waitress look with the red clown nose on.
          Thank you.

          • HD says:

            OMIB I am cracking up!!! One because you are too funny and two because you understand my slang. LOL!! Too funny! You are a sister from another mother!

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              isn’t that a sister from another mister? and a brother from another mother?

              No matter, I’ll be the mister’s sister the mother’s brother never had.

    • Sparkles says:

      Hi Rachel,
      Are there any Housewives (or others on the Housewives shows) that you feel are being treated unfairly on this site? I am interested to hear your perspective.

      • Katie says:

        I think “Rachel” is gone and has moved on to the following

        a. Complaining to Bawby about how unfair the world is to her
        b. Plotting revenge
        c. In bed with ginger trying to figure out where it all went wrong

    • LynnNChicago says:

      WOW posted right from a College in NY, didn’t your mom tell you not to visit here? I hope Ginger is treating you better….Nite A!

      • OneMoreInBoston says:


        • quincyil says:

          Jill must have called her daughter. This blog has been up since yesterday morning and was tweeted and retweeted many times.

          Jill turns down a request to discuss an issue that Jill approached Lynn with on New Years weekend. Jill insults Lynn and calls her a name. Now, Jill upsets her daughter who came here to freak out and call us names.

          I think it is more than sad. This girl is suffering because of her mother.

          Jill did the things she did on national TV last year. Jill posted on this board with a taunt on New Years. Jill turned down a request from Lynn to listen to each other’s concern and called Lynn, “hater.” Now, Jill calls her daughter and her daughter has this reaction.

          I think Jill Zarin needs to really change.

      • DarkSonnet says:

        Lynn strikes again! ROTFL! Wonder if Mommy cried to her about the cruel people or if she just automatically comes here.

        I vote, “Mommy Cried”. It fits the profile. You know, the one where somebody is incapable of learning from their mistakes and is doomed to keep repeating them?

        In other words, arrogantly stupid.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          or she took over the girl’s computer when she went visiting and Allie was in the ladies room.

          • Kansas Girl says:

            That was my thought. She’s been away a few days and could have gone over to visit — catch the end of the game. Nothing like watching the Super Bowl with the college kids.

      • California35 says:

        What’s going on LOL!
        Lynn, I like that you find that out, “I love that about” you, “know that” 😛

    • mariareads says:

      ROFL! Jill Zarin got a life by being a NY housewife. She’s a public figure now and we all see her for who she really, really is. Sorry if you don’t, but here’s a little tip. Get out while you can. As soon as college is over, move out, get your own place and live your life as YOU want to. Wish you all the best Rachel!

  82. Adgirl says:

    OT. Go Steelers!

  83. klmh says:

    Jimmy Steward on Johnny Carson, a poem about his dog. Wonderful:


  84. klmh says:

    t not d, Stewart!

  85. BambiBaby22 says:

    Didn’t Jill brag at one time that she and Bawby go to the Superbowl every year in a PP?

    • quincyil says:

      They had mechanical problem with the plane and were delayed in Costa Rica for a day.

      • BambiBaby22 says:

        So she WAS supposed to go to the superbowl tonight?

        • quincyil says:

          I googled and didn’t see her plans to do that.

          She is on facebook and she said Costa Rica was a wonderful honeymoon spot. The people there want someone named Lorie Lee defriended because she asked Jill if she has every done any physical labor to help her neighbors then she talked about the help she gave her neighbors. Gosh that is a tough group to get along with. We have Rachel come her to scream at us and we are nice and ask her to stay. Jill’s facebook is a hateful group.

          • Golden Girl says:

            What makes it funny is that Rachel came to the board and read the post and replied just like we do and we are the ones who are supposed to get a life lol.

  86. Sparkles says:

    TVTime101 has been taking a look at Traylor’s websites — I mean, businesses.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      I just watched the first two episodes of BH online (I started the season late because I couldn’t tell Taylor and Camille apart), anyway I think Taylor would be more comfortable in the Orange County franchise. She was complaining that is takes ALOT of money to live the BH lifestyle. Obviously, she is in over her head financially. Her house seems to be rather small (compared to others) AND in a subdivision. Now I know what you fine posters meant by her being a wannabe.
      I would not trust her for any “consulting” advice and her weasly little husband, he seems a little shady……I wonder if he finances pornos as well as other start up businesses….my creepiness radar bings like crazy when he is on screen.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      In one of the articles this links to, his company bought 30% in that makeup company and she also bought 30%. They have controlling interest and she’s now the directer. Yowza!

    • Sparkles says:

      I am interested to learn more about Taylor’s education. I’ve read several professional bios of her, including those on her consulting websites, eimplement and ereach. They do not cite any educational credentials.

      However when the Malibu Beach Recovery Center announced Taylor as a blogger, they stated she has “a B.S. in Biology so she understands the neuroscience behind the disease of addiction.”
      Cite: http://www.malibubeachrecoveryblog.com/taylor-armstrong/

      Does anyone know where Taylor attained her degree? I am surprised that she does not mention it elsewhere.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        I tried to Google this once and didn’t find anything. But it must be on the Web somewhere. But…which name do we search for!?

      • Kansas Girl says:

        Maybe someone could tweet her and ask?

      • DarkSonnet says:

        University of Oklahoma, but I have found no evidence of a degree in anything.

      • Nancy says:

        It’s because she doesn’t have one.

      • jillz68 says:

        A BS in Biology would not make someone an expert in neurosience or the neuroscience behind addiction. A BS in Biology is a very broad degree. If she wanted to be an expert in that field a more specific degree would be beneficial. A biology degree that isn’t specific means she has studied ecology, evolution, genetics, cell biology, physiology, basically a class in all the areas but unless she did research in neuroscience or the University of OK has an awesome neuroscience dept she isn’t an expert.

        I was an undergrad advisor in a biology dept for 8 years (Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biolgy) and the starting salary then for someone with a BS/BA degree was 27K/year and you were qualified to do grunt work in someone elses lab but certainly not qualified to have your own or be considered and expert in anything.

  87. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Hello my darlings! (disclaimer- I’m all hopped up on cold medicine so this is a long one)

    I have been out sick this whole weekend barely managing to drag my poor sorry behind to the computer on Saturday.

    As I was reading through the comments- two of them really stood out to me, and they both were from newer posters.

    Nancy commented that Jill Zarin has an entire goldmine at her feet if she would just open her eyes and look (so sorry Nancy if I ‘m paraphrasing incorrectly but that was what I thought you meant) and the handsome Vincenzio who said that he tried to give people a break based on their upbringing and childhood, and he believe that Jill must have had it tough.

    Maybe this is all the Benadryl talking, my darlings, but if one takes a step back, and looks at all of JZ’s missteps, mistakes and problems, I think we can all agree that all were pretty much self created.


    I post on Buffywood’s weight loss blog, and TLD wrote a post about SABATOGE. How others try to sabotage us. I guess I’m wondering why is it that JZ is sabotaging HERSELF?

    Each “slick” move she makes does nothing but block her from her true goal and agenda.

    Is it because she has such a fear of failure- she’s so afraid that Gloria will look at her and say”Mother’s Not Happy with you” and Jill will feel like the failure that she secretly thinks she is?

    Or is it a fear of success? That she can never live up to the expectations being put on her, so she sabotages her success so she won’t have to measure up to herself?

    If the speculation on RHONY postponement is true- that JZ was the one who forwarded the tweet to everyone but JZ and then Ramona either accidentally or on purpose retweeted it to her entire list and now the whole show is held up by lawyers, she really screwed up big time. Now the show is pretty much dead in the water. Maybe this is secretly what she wanted all along?

    If there is any lesson to take away from Jill Zarin is to be grateful for what God/ the universe/ karma whatever you believe in has given you, and instead of try to manipulate energy and karma to your own will, let the energy carry you.

    Can anyone of us imagine what this show would have been if Jill Zarin had not messed with karma? It’s almost like a modern day morality play!

    Ok- I’m off the soapbox and back to bed.

    • quincyil says:

      I feel so much better with confirmation that Jill is home safe.

      I see the realginger zarin fans are being asked to look at the gingerlicious site.
      Honestly, if people follow a Bravo star around like that they deserve spending time at site honoring Jill’s dog.

      • Golden Girl says:

        Well said OMIB. Some people are self saboteurs and only through honest reflection we can see what we are doing to ourselves. Then to fix it we have to accept our actions, and then take the steps to correct.

  88. WSL says:

    rachel says:

    February 6, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    what is wrong with you you psycho. You are INSANE. JUST SHUT UP AND GET A LIFE. CRAZY PEOPLE

    Rach Da lin,
    Who u insulting ?
    Don’t know who I need to take out back & do some Oklahoma on !

  89. WSL says:

    This new Jill sign up,
    How many books do u have to buy to join ?

    • quincyil says:

      I’m not sure what Jill sign up you mean. If you look at her web site and order 10 paper back books and you get one phone call from Jill at the time of the premier which has been canceled. There is a girdle party somewhere in Manhattan on the 15th.

      I noted the comment section in her updated facebook. I am not a member of her facebook, I just google it and read. I google her twitter and read that too.

      I wonder if Rachel took the time to read today’s “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie. It was very nice to Jill Zarin and everyone here will attest to that. It bothers me that Rachel just read the top blog and didn’t read my subset blog within the board of a blog. I hope Jill’s many minions take the time to read my work as it was written to Jill with the Love that she requested.

      • Golden Girl says:

        I’ll buy 10 copies and donate my phone call if it gives WSL a chance at JZ.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          crap- if they’re 99 cents- I’ll buy 100- but only if WSL tapes the calls.

          Can you imagine? 10 phone calls- all to different names but it’s WSL every time?

          And then imagine WSL in her Southern Belle glory, taking the phone from her maid, swathed in her white satin Peignoir (you know she wears one) with her hair all like Vivian Leigh in Gone With the Wind- when it was loose behind her back, and she looked so innocent but you just knew she was batshit crazy and would shoot that Yankee soldier… anyway where was I?

          Oh yeah- WSL is in her penthouse domain that looks DOWN on JZ’s apartment-oh the delicious irony of that- and says to JZ-
          “oh and another thing, darling…” over and over and over.

          Well, I might just have to take up a collection for this little scheme.

  90. jeang says:

    Jillous, your premiere party on the 15th still on? Isnt that like having a fashion show with no fashions?

  91. zoekayla says:

    Lynn, it seems like forever since I was last up to date on the blog. Because I hate to miss your writing and the board’s comments, I take time to read it all…often putting me days behind. It’s all worth it though!
    There are some new folks on the board who are bringing great perspectives. I’ve enjoyed reading their posts. I miss some of the original posters…but perhaps they are busy. I think you should be proud that so many of your early fans are still “out there”, lurking and writing when they can. You blog continues to be fresh – attracting new readers and posters. I have enjoyed watching the blog grow and mature over time. Far fewer trolls recently. I am wondering if they will rise up if and when RHONYC comes back as they seem to be inspired by our housewife we all love to hate – Jill.
    Quincy, your ILJZ blog-within-a-blog is pure genius! I hope to offer some glowing remarks soon to secure one of the many prizes I have seen given as awards for superior offerings. Keep it going, please, and do consider blogging on the season beginning the 15th. We can help you “build a season”.
    I think of many of the bloggers often; RCH, Justanothermary and virgil, zipitzarin, onemoreinboston, boston02127, WSL/WSM, vilzvet, klmh, AZgirl,butterisafruit, rabblerouser, cusi, and the other zoey. It was sad to see some leave the board in anger, but that is part of life, I guess. I miss hearing from truelifediva and cdnfillie. Vinnie and error 404, you guys have added a lot to the discourse on the board. I look forward to your posts.
    Lynn, all of this is my way of saying congratulations on a hugely successful blog. You have created a blog empire and I am glad to have had it to go to over this past year or so. All my best for a SUPER 2011 (of course written on SuperBowl Sunday!)

    (((Lynn and LynnFam))))

  92. HD says:

    Kinda OT but relating in a way…I remembered this song from a musical I was in during high school about housewives.

  93. Jill is looking for more “Real Housewives” blogs. LOL

    Jillzarin: Any good new housewife blogs for me to read? I missed reunion and finale last week. I like to read your perspectives. I will RT if good!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Oh Jill is SO transparent…everyone wave to Jill! Oh and Mrs. Zarin don’t forget to check out Quincy’s “I Love Jill Zarin” blog within a blog right here on IHJZ….I tried to stop her but see Quincy fell down and hit her head and when she woke up she started this damn ILJZ blog so we humor her 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        Is this the personality change that my husband dreamed of?

        Jill didn’t read the blog. She glanced and freaked out.

        This blog was Scary Island for Jill tonight. She was rejected for her bad behaviors. I bet she can break her 3 day record cry if she tries hard.

        Earlier, Jill tweeted complaints about the sound system in Dallas and told her tweethearts that Bobby doesn’t want her to complain. I think Bobby has had it with non stop complaining and all of the trouble associated with his wife being infamous. He already divorced one wife. This is a guy who would like to be happy and spend the millions that he has made. This television show is a thorn in his side. He didn’t marry Jill to become a laughing stock in a jewelry store. That video with the offer for something special at home in exchange for a big ring was awful.

        Jill should hope the show is cancelled and hope her meal ticket remains her meal ticket.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          She has told us several times that Bobby is peaceful. He prefers to live quietly and in peace, avoids conflict, and is the peace-maker when necessary. I hope he is influencing her toward peace.

    • FlowerPower (no longer StillaWallflower) says:

      *waving* Hi, Jill!! Thank you for being such an amazing people-connector. You’ve brought together the smartest, funniest, kindest group of women I’ve ever encountered in cyberspace. You should feel honored to have your name connected to something of real quality and value.

  94. WSL says:

    A house wife show ?
    Who da tunk ?
    It doesn’t surpise me that u would be in a house wife show b4
    It was fashionable.
    U trend setter U !

    • HD says:

      The musical is called Working abotu average Joe workers. (The video I posted of course, is not me. LOL) I was in the musical though as a lead. I had Patti Labelle’s song…

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        wow- she has not really aged much at all!

        • HD says:

          @ OMIB- we have a saying in our culture, “good Black don’t crack” Just think about it…how many African American women do you know (like celebrites or whatnot) that have had plastic surgery in as far as botox, lip injections, etc. Yes, they might have lipo *maybe* or a boob job *maybe* but not many Black women go under the knife to look younger. Look at Iman, Halle Berry, or other famous older Black women, they pretty much look the same throughout time. I STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL get carded. I always tell the clerk I dont care. I am 34. He says, “you age well”. Someone thought my daughter and I were friends (a few times) She hated it, I loved it. LOL!

          There is a scientific reason for this but you didn’t ask for all that. 🙂 (melanin)

          • Kansas Girl says:

            Cool! I didn’t realize that. I hope I’m not doomed to crack! I am starting to wrinkle! LOL!

          • Katie says:

            If you still get carded because you look so young and have done nothing to keep the wrinkles away – I don’t think I can like you.

            The only black person who I can think of that messed up her face is Vivica A. Fox.

            As for Halle – I can build a shrine in honor of her natural beauty.

            • HD says:

              LOL @ Katie. I have done nothing to keep wrinkles away. Not one thing. I don’t even think about wrinkles. lol. I don’t think about my hair turning gray, I don’t think about wrinkles, none of it.

              Honestly it is the melanin in our (African American skin) that provides a “shield” so to speak from UV rays.

              “Ultraviolet (UV) radiation is responsible for 90% of the visible signs of aging on the skin of whites,” says Dr. Michael J. Martin, former Assistant Clinical Professor in the Dept. of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at University of California, San Francisco.

              Blacks’ skin, however, ages much slower.

              Why are most dark-skinned people protected from harmful UV rays? Because compared to whites, blacks possess more melanin, the pigment that gives skin its color.”

  95. If You Had It Like This says:

    Okay, completely off topic..did what in the hell was going on with that Superbowl halftime show?! Weirdest one ever.

  96. Rabble Rouser says:


    I was hoping you all could give me your opinion of a disagreement I am having with my husband.

    He thinks saying “You’re pissing me off” is okay to say in front of the kids because not a swear word (he didn’t say it to me btw- our 3.5 year old was tormenting her sister and wouldn’t stop after he told her to. He didn’t yell or anything but he was annoyed ).

    I don’t think it’s appropriate language to use in front of kids and think it should say something like “You’re making me angry/upset”.

    I know I wouldn’t her to go to school and say that- but he maintains it’s not foul language.

    I’m almost embarrassed asking this because it seems so obvious to me but DH disagrees- and I told him I would take a poll to see if it’s just me over reacting or him under reacting.

    Thanks 🙂

    • tootsie says:

      Pure and simple, it is inappropriate to say to or in front of children. Annoyed, angry anything put pissed off.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      If she’d get in trouble for it in school, he shouldn’t be teaching her this phrase. If she hears it at home, she WILL use it at school.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      It is very inappropriate and you are not over reacting at all.

      In many levels of society it is considered to be a vulgarity.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I think if there is something that you don’t want them to say, you shouldn’t say it to them or in front of them. Maybe “Pissed off” isn’t a swear word but you probably don’t want your kids to repeat it so that makes it pretty simple. If you always follow the rule of not saying anything that you don’t want the kids to say, it’s easy. I can remember getting in trouble for saying “shut up”. Not a swear word but I wasn’t allowed to say it.

      • vilzvet says:

        Yeah I would put “pissed off” in the same category as “sucks” which is said ALL the time it seems and of course it’s on regular TV as well. Many other words can be subbed, especially since your tots are still so young. Good luck!

      • error404 says:

        HA. We weren’t allowed to say “shut up” either. In retrospect, they may have saved their efforts as I grew up to have a mouth like a drunken sailor. OTOH, I understand the meaning behind the words. I’d never tell anyone to shut up during an argument, like a certain beloved housewife we know. It’s demeaning. Which is why I have a problem with “You’re pissing me off”. It’s not just another way of saying “I’m feeling angry right now”, it’s actually a threat. Nobody wants Tony Soprano for a father.

  97. Rabble Rouser says:

    Thanks girls 🙂

    He was so sure people would be on his side, I hope more people answer and hit it home harder. Maybe he is using a ‘man brain’ or something because I can’t believe he thinks it’s okay- I bet he is going to ask some dudes on his motorcycle forum.

    • justanothermary says:

      I’m a guy and I’ve said that in front of the boys when they were young. It came back to bite in the ass. Not a good thing to say. If you don’t want them repeating it, don’t say it. Just my opinion. Justanothervirg

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Thanks Virgil…
        I think a few more male opinions will help him see the error of his ways.

        I also mentioned to him how everyone said she would get into trouble at school- and that seemed to quiet him down 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It would get her in trouble at school – he can say your behavior disappoints me – if she said that at school she would then go to the front of the class..

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I’d be mortified if she said that in school..she is in what is known as a special day class- it’s an early intervention program for 3- year olds with developmental delays.

        The mother of a little boy in her class said her son came home saying ‘Just shut up and shit’ and she knows it didn’t come from her home. That boy also goes to a fee based pre-school on certain days (in addition to the wonderful class my DD in) and thinks he learned it there. She had some difficulty with that teacher who was very unprofessional and tells her her son is “annoying”. I don’t think that preschool teacher has the skill set to deal with kids with some minor issues.

  98. justanothermary says:

    Lynn: I read to justanothermary what you had written on your individual posts and she teared up. Proof, she says, that this is a good place (like I needed proof). She took a bad fall off the deck and down the stairs so she can’t even get alone at this point (I’ve taken some time off to be with her) but I wanted you to know that she knows what you wrote to her and that it meant a lot to her.

    • justanothermary says:

      oops, I meant that she can’t get UP alone at this point. The post was written by justanothervirg. Sorry if I’m confusing, still new to this.

      • Cusi77 says:

        (((((( Mary, Virgil )))))) ((((((HUGS))))))

      • zoekayla says:

        I am sorry to hear that Justanothermary had a bad fall. I am so very happy she is enjoying the board postings, and you are beond sweet to read them to her. Lynn, has been so thoughtful to write the personal notes…
        My very best thoughts are coming your way
        (((((mary and virgil))))))

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Hi Mary! Hi Virgil! Good to hear from you! Sorry to hear about the deck incident. Be careful! We love you!

    • DarkSonnet says:

      I am so sorry to hear this. Please know that you are being thought of and that prayers are being said for you, many prayers.

    • lillybee says:

      Give Mary my best wishes. She seems to be a wonderful woman and wife.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thank you for the post Virgil, please give Mary my love and tell her that my thoughts and prayers are with her always! I’m so sorry to hear that she fell, I hope she feels better soon. Thank you for reading all of our thoughts to her, you’re a good man! What a great couple you are! xoxo Sending love and prayers to you both!

  99. WSL says:

    Pretty HD
    U r still very young !
    And it sounds like God made u very pretty. There is no question that God made black skin pretty longer than my Irish skin. That’s natures gift.
    My Bf in NYC is famous, as
    The plastic surgeon to the African American stars.
    She specializes in non evasive surgery. She is her best advertisement.
    Trust me I know for a fact, in her practice the beautiful want to be more beautiful just like the white girls. Granted they need it less but they still come.

    • HD says:

      No doubt it may be needed but as your post said, it is needed “less”.

      My comments certainly are not to cause a race blog but it is what it is. And what it is, is what it is. The proof is in the pudding. (google Eartha Kitt) 🙂 It is what it is. I didn’t cause it, I didn’t make it, I am just HAPPILY a recipent of it. 🙂

  100. WSL says:

    When I mean that ,(would NEVER say the P word), I say :
    I am P Oed ! In even more polite circles it means :I am Put Out.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Thanks WSL-

      I think he is starting to come around now. 🙂

      Don’t get me wrong, I am no angel..there are times where I have slipped up and said a ‘bad word’ in front of the kids (not directed at them) but I couldn’t believe thought it was okay to say.

    • vilzvet says:

      Losing Taylor would not be a problem for me, and I don’t think anyone else here, LOL. Any of the proposed additions would be interesting, I actually use Serious Skin Care so I see Jennifer on TV a few times a year doing her thing. And since there are “connections” with the other two women to current Housewives it would make sense to consider them.

      • If You Had It Like This says:

        I use SSC sometimes too! My aunt is addicted to HSN and QVC and she orders every make-up and skincare line they have and gives it to me. I think any of those options would be better than Lips McGhee.

    • nathania says:

      well, when the poll results came in on WWHL, Taylor was in dead last place, with only one percent of the votes for being someone’s ‘favorite’ housewife. (That might have been Russell, Taylor, Kennedy,and Jax their chihuahua voting). I am wondering how much truth their is to the rumors that Kim Richards is quitting. I would love to see her come back though, because I think she can sail right through next season undisturbed. Messing with her was a p.r. nightmare for Kyle and Taylor both, so I think they will be handling her with kid gloves if not steering clear of her altogether.

  101. WSL says:

    H Berry is said, to have said, she doesn’t want her child exposed to a reality person. I am sure it’s the constant cameras, she doesn’t want on their child.
    Does any one remember her in Queen or Jefferson. I fell in love 1st time I saw here.

  102. Anne says:


    How can you possible know it was Jill that posted as Katrina? If she used her own email that would be the only way. The IP address that is given to word press will not be for a specific physical address and this I know as privacy standard anywhere in the US. It is impossible to get that information. So, how do you know?

    How would you know? Not a single ISP would give that information, so how do you know?

    I have to question that fact. It seems unreal to say the least.

    • zoekayla says:

      I accept Lynn’s analysis of the communication. I saw that post back when it was first posted. I mentioned then that it seemed like Jill. I pointed out how she likes alliterative names (Susan Saunders). The timing was weird as well.
      Doesn’t seem “unreal” at all.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      If it were simply an IP address from Aruba, while Jill was in Aruba with a message/question that Jill really wants an answer to, and no one from Aruba has ever posted on this board before, I would still be 99.9% sure, but I’m 100% sure. I can’t tell you anymore than that, you’ll have to take my word for it, or don’t, thats ok too. I know it for sure the last piece of the puzzle that proves it is confidential, I don’t mean to sound mysterious, I just promised I’d keep some things confidential.

    • quincyil says:

      There are banks of IPs given to specific countries. I googled IP and Aruba and there were lists of numbers. People in computer security have the ability to determine locations. I have listened to discussions from young men that have these degrees and jobs in computer security so asked about this. Twitter has access to IPs also.

      Yes, you can buy email addresses from juno for 10 dollars a month and then troll your competitors blog wasting their time and your own, but should you do something egregious, you can be found out. Your name as a “professional” blogger could be exposed. Normally, it’s a waste of time to find these things out. People watch twitters and read blogs so they know what they like and don’t like. If someone comes into a board discussion ready for a fight, you generally know that they have a personal agenda.

      • quincyil says:

        Anne, are you upset about the Katrina post or the post from Sarah Lawrence? I know you won’t answer that. Only you can pose questions.

        All colleges have edu addresses. Post from a college and the person knows it came from that college. I hope that helps you.

    • Kat says:

      Anne an IP address can most certainly lead to a cable or dsl modem located in your home. ISPs assign you an address and now more than ever these addresses are commonly static.

  103. jeang says:

    Can you imagine Bobby trying to watch the superbowl and Jillous constantly yapping about how bad is this multi million/billion dollar stadium sound system, bla bla bla.? I would go to sleep just to shut her big yap up, but I bet she complains to Ginger when Bobby goes to sleep on her. Either Bobby has huge patience or he is going to snap on her one day and go Oklahoma on her fauxspanx a$$.

  104. lillybee says:

    Or else, Ginger is going to go Mexican on her. I really would like to see Ginger give her a nip.

  105. Adgirl says:

    Want a laugh?

    celebritynetworthcom claims NeNe Leakes is worth 3.5 million dollars. LOL. I suspected that site was inaccurate.


    • quincyil says:

      I was working in the small kitchen of a community art center with three wealthy women. Two of them have private jets and the other, my close friend, only goes first class on airplanes. I was telling them about the 35 million that this site says Jill Zarin has. They did not follow the show, but they felt that 35 million was not much money for someone from Manhattan. I told one that Camille Grammer was going to receive between 40 and 50 million from Kelsey in the divorce and that did not seem like a lot to them either. It’s all on your own perspective. To me, it is a fortune, to others it is not.

      When I watch “Selling New York City” and someone turns down the $10,000,000 dollar price of a condo or thinks that a $9,000,000 property needs to be gutted, I am impressed. To other people is it just an every day occurrence.

      Jill’s apartment’s price is very low compared to the homes in “Selling New York.” Her apartment’s price is low compared to “Million Dollar Listing” homes. There must be people out there with a lot more money than Jill Zarin.

  106. Sparkles says:

    Speaking of LOLs, go to 45 seconds for another example of Taylor making the godmother claim.

    • vilzvet says:

      Wow, she certainly has no problem lying through those teeth and lips!

    • HD says:

      Why does she keep saying that? Who does that? You need a clear yes before you can make that claim. Also, I didn’t get the impression that Taylor and Adrienne were very close. They didn’t hang out a lot or anything.

      • nathania says:


        that is amazing. Adrienne probably has someone employed with the express purpose of watching for and warning her about grifters and scammers trying to take advantage of her or her businesses in whatever way, she noted at the very beginning of the series that ‘when you grow up in extreme wealth you have to learn how to protect yourself’. I will never forget the look they showed her having on her face (if we can trust Bravo editing) when Taylor was giving her ‘my daddy done beat my mama’ speech at the gambling thing. It was that same look she had about the godmother thing, the ‘not this sh*t again’ look. And it was obvious that Adrienne had to bust her at the reunion because she had probably told Taylor privately to stop making that claim, and Taylor finally pushed her too far. Taylor and Michaele Salahi are both made from the same mold, they push people to the limit because they know that most people are not going to confront or make a scene when put on the spot like this. She really messed with the wrong chica in Adrienne.

  107. WSL says:

    G’ Day !

  108. jeang says:

    Krazy must be having some really boring times. Obviously she didnt do anything fabuous last night cause all she was doing then and even this morning are news updates and reviewing of commercials. thats hot!!!

  109. Thelittlewife says:

    Well said Lynn!

  110. terry aley says:

    I tricked, I mean, convinced Cat from DC Housewives to do an interview with me. http://tinyurl.com/4sa9nty

  111. knocknoc says:

    Lynn and Quincy

    Thank you so much for being the great people
    that you are…..great bloggers!

    You keep us updated and although it is not always
    possible to comment……love all your comments!

  112. lola says:

    Lynn this is a question that is off topic but I am really curious. Not sure if you were aware of all the ruckus that was caused on another website. The people who commented really threw your name around alot. They called anyone who didn’t agree with them “trolls” from your site. Those same people have decided to “ruin” the website by either creating their own or following one of “theirs” not really sure. They felt that if they left the website would lose its luster. They are now on another website still referring to the old website (by calling it nasty names) but still come on making comments under different names. Thank goodness that I believe it worked the other way around as now more people are commenting without the fear of retaliation. I feel soo sorry for the author of the website because of the things they are doing or trying to do to her!! Thankfully she doesn’t seem to let them affect her and she calls thems out whenever they do post under different names respectfully. I wanted to say that your posters do seem kind and considerate even though opinions differ. My question to you is Did you know? and How do you feel about that?

  113. Aimee says:

    Thank you Lynn for saying what so many of us wanted to say. Jill Zarin disgusts me. She is fake, not a true friend to anyone. She has been so jealous of Bethenny’s success, makes incredibly inappropriate and trashy comments about her, Alex, and Simon constantly. Isn’t it ironic that the only 2 people from the orignial cast, Bethenny and Simon, have their own shows? It’s because people care about and like them. Jill will never get her own show. What would it be about? It would be like a female version of “Jerry Springer” as Jill tries to provoke drama. This is supposed to be reality, but Jill creates scenes and dramas on purpose to get attention in the media and in society. She is cruel, judgemental, ill-mannered, and I’d be very embarrassed and ashamed if I were she. I love Bethenny and Alex. They are so real. Jill is so fake. Jill was so cruel to Bethenny, who is the classiest woman. Jill talks about Bethenny still, and Bethenny refuses to dish on Jill. What a class act Bethenny is. And Jill picks on Alex. I can imagine what Jill was like in high school. She acts like she is in it now. I have never been so sickened about the way someone treated Bethenny as Jill did. At the racetrack on her birthday, Jill told Bethenny she would be her mother. Ha! If she has been a mother, then Bethenny is lucky she cut Jill out of her life. Jill is toxic. Bethenny seems so happy, peaceful, and serene now. Jill is as miserable as ever. I loved it when Alex told Jill off last season. It was hillarious. Finally, Alex stood up for all the people Jill bullied. And Jill writing a book of advice and wisdom? Wouldn’t you have to have some to write a book about it? Jill Zarin simply disgusts me. I can’t believe, knowing that her “friend” Kelly was being escorted back to NYC after her breakdown on Ramona’s girls trip that A.)Jill didn’t stay with her and B.she thought she’d be welcome at the girls’ retreat. The dead silence said it all. She was not wanted there, and she knew it. She just wanted the publicity. I do not believe for a second that she is a nice person. If she seems nicer in season 4, it is only because of all of the negative publicity she has gotten. She had dug herself into a hole of hatred. She did everything all on her own. She acts as though she is a victim of some king, but she did everything that resulted in her treatment and portrayl on the show. She is absolutley, totally responsible for her disgusting reputation. No one else. Only Jill. I love this blog. You said exactly what so many of us feel. Thank you so much.

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