I Hate Jill Zarin Tabatha’s Salon Takeover / Bravo’s New Schedule

I Hate Jill Zarin Tabatha’s Salon Takeover / Housewives News

Wow I’m glad Valentines Day is over and I don’t have to type that I “love” that certain New York Housewife…it was painful.

Today Tabatha’s Salon Takeover recap from our very own Quincy IL…

Tabatha had her hands full in this episode, with a wimp for an owner and a mean bully stylist taking over the salon, this was a challenge.

Tabatha’s Salon Takeover Week Nine by: Quincy

Tabatha has returned to California. She is in front of “Concerto Salon” in Valencia. She calls Nick, the Iranian owner of the salon and he is very pleased that she has come to help him. Nick has owned the salon for 18 months. He is $100,000 in debt. The debt is in the form of a loan from his second wife and credit cards. Nick’s oldest daughter from his first marriage, Natasha, works for him. Nick owned a small salon for a number of years. He purchased the larger salon and thought he could work less, which shocks Tabatha. Tabatha tells us that “Nick should be careful what you wish for.” Tabatha takes the keys.


The cameras have been in the salon and recording for days. The employees are drinking wine and not working. One employee raises her glass to say, “Cheers to Nick.” Sabina, a red-headed stylist, is abrasive. She has taken over the salon and insults Nick with degrading comments such as “pussy”, The stylists fight in front of the clients. We are shown a client in a chair following a fight between her stylist and Sabina telling Nick she has never been in a salon like this before. Nick listens, but he does nothing to rectify the situation.

Staff Meeting

Tabatha tells the staff that she has been recording their behavior. Dakota tells Tabatha that he is “stoaked” Tabatha tells Dakota that we will see if you are stoked in one week. Tabatha feels that the apprentice, Danielle, is being treated like a slave and she intends to emancipate Danielle. Tabatha does not like Danielle being called, “Sabina’s bitch.” In an interview, Tabatha calls Sabina, “a bossy cow.” Tabatha feels the problem in the salon is Sabina has taken over and the staff resents that. Nick is so passive that the salon has no owner so there is a mob mentality. Tabatha walks with the staff around the salon to find hair in the color wash bowls, dust everywhere (Nick says it comes from manicures and everyone laughs.) The salon has a cleaning lady for 2 hours a week. Tabatha would like to meet that cleaning lady.

In a staff meeting, the staff tells Tabatha that they would like to work for Nick and not Sabina. They resent Sabina and feel that Nick does not try to run the salon. Nick’s daughter, Natasha (4 months of experience,) is in tears as she listens. Tabatha understands her pain.


Models are brought into the salon and each has chosen the photo of a hairstyle that they would like. Many of the models want color and cuts. The stylists talk to the models and then give advice before starting their work. Nick does a good job, but Sabina does not.
When they begin their work on the models, Tabatha checks their color and cuts. Dakota, a male stylist, doesn’t use gloves or a work apron. He is a mess and he itches his head with a hand full of hair dye. Sabina in an interview is critical of Nick, of Tabatha, of Danielle and of the other members of the staff. Tabatha is critical of Sabina’s behavior and her ability to style the model’s hair. Tabatha agrees with Sabina’s client that her hair has a green tinge.

Management Meeting

Tabatha goes over her findings with Nick who still cannot step up and show leadership. Nick does not want to fire Sabina as she pays him $1,000 a month rent. Tabatha tries to make Nick step up and he seems beaten down. We meet Nick’s second wife who wants Nick to sell the salon. Tabatha brings a business broker, Rick, to assess the value of the salon if it is to be sold. People pay for cash flow when they buy a service business. Nick’s net cash flow is zero. The business is only worth between $20,000 and $30,000. Nick’s wife says that he should try again because she does not wish to lose $70,000. They are going to down size their house in order to save money also.


The solution to Nick’s problems lies in self-esteem so Tabatha takes Nick to a self-defense lesson. Nick first learns to shout, “NO!” He has difficulty becoming aggressive, but with instruction and time he steps up and throws both the teacher and Tabatha on to the mats. Tabatha feels he is stepping up. Tabatha enjoyed being thrown on to the mat.

The staff also meets in the gym and Tabatha allows Danielle to hit Sabina with large foam clubs. Danielle wins. The staff roots for Danielle. Sabina in an interview still is critical of others and seems to be angry.

Nick tells the staff that there has to be change and he will now take charge. The staff is unsure, but hopeful


Nick hits the front desk with a sledge hammer for the renovation. When they return after days, the walls are lighter. There are new chairs and mats. The name of the salon has been placed all over the salon. It really doesn’t look that different. The drapes and reception furniture are the same. There is a new lower, front desk. There is a formal almost parlor feeling which does reflect the name of the salon, “Concerto.” Nick feels that he has changed.


Tabatha again brings in clients and Nick has begun to supervise. Danielle is to work for many stylists. The clients seem pleased. Tabatha has given a box of large size gloves to Dakota, the messy stylists, but he is still not up to her standards. Dakota is still “stoaked” though. He is from California.

Final Recommendations

Tabatha give Nick a month of self-defense lessons to help him develop the tools he needs to work with Sabina and his staff. Nick thinks he can step up. Tabatha says that Nick needs “strength and empowerment.” Nick tells the employees that they will have 3 warnings, but then they will have to leave. The camera focuses on Sabina’s face. Tabatha addresses Dakota and tells him that he has to improve. Danielle feels that she is going to learn now.

Six Week Check Up

Tabatha returns to find that Nick is running the salon and the employees have responded positively. Sabina got the memo and she is minding her own business. No one is verbally abusive to Nick. Nick tells Tabatha that business has improved. Danielle is learning and hopefully will get a chair for herself soon.

Finale Next Week

Tabatha is going to visit 4 salons that she had difficulties with next week. There seems to be shouting and unhappiness with Tabatha’s return.

Great Job Quincy! Thanks for that recap! Lynn~

I’m going to miss Tabs after next week, just one more episode coming. Tabatha talked about this upcoming final episode with me when I interviewed her on Reality Buzz, she said that she’d be going back to visit some of the salons that she had worked with in the past.

She spoke in particular about “Chicago Male” a men’s only salon in Chicago’s Bucktown neighborhood with an owner who was hell bent on keeping his business plan of men only and 15 minute haircuts. It wasn’t working and Tabatha made some much needed changes, let’s see if Mr. Stubborn continues to take Tabatha’s advice.

Tabatha’s ending, they’re drawing out The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with one more “producer’s cut” of the dinner party from hell that will air tonight. The Real Housewives of Atlanta has just one more reunion show. No word yet on whether or not they’ve put together a lost footage for Atlanta but we can say goodbye to those ladies soon.

Bravo isn’t falling asleep at the wheel, they do have a number of new shows coming up. Bethenny’s Getting married will take the Monday night slot while The Real Housewives of Miami will take over Tuesday’s. Top Chef All Stars continues on Wednesday night’s and Million Dollar Listing on Thursday’s. Beginning March 6th, The Real Housewives of Orange County will take over Atlanta’s Sunday night spot.

With Miami and Orange County Housewives running at the same time on Bravo, I simply can’t see Bravo starting a third Housewives series all running at the same time, so my prediction is that The Real Housewives of New York will begin to run after the Miami series is completely finished. Typically a first Housewives season is just 6 or 7 weeks long, add a reunion show or two, that would put New York somewhere in late April or early May.

What do you think? Are there just too many Housewives shows out there now? Do we need another new Housewives Series? Will you be watching The Real Housewives of Miami?

If you haven’t seen Real City Housewive’s version of Beverly Hills Dinner Party From Hell, it is a must see!


Until Next Time…

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309 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Tabatha’s Salon Takeover / Bravo’s New Schedule

  1. WSL says:

    Good Mo Nin !
    I hope u know,
    U r loved Every day !

  2. HD says:

    Quincy, you have been much too kind. That red head irriated the hell out of my last night. (Maybe she is Jill’s cousin or something.) Who talks to their boss like that, so loud, calling your boss a pussy, cussing across the salon, treating that intern like a servant. They actually called her that woman’s b*tch. Girl, please! I wish I had been in that salon! She needed to be straight up fired. I would not have tolerated that for one second. Not on my watch!

  3. HD says:

    Oh…for the RH series. It is getting a little out of hand. I think they are doing a throw everything on the wall and see what sticks type of marketing. They never really know who the audience is going to latch on to so they just keep giving us more and more hoping to have another Atlanta, OC, New York hit when truthfully I think NJ, BH, DC and sadly it looks like Maimi will go this way, have failed miserably. (JMO)

    You can only keep duplicating this show for so long. Nothing in Miami looks exciting and I wonder who in the hell is casting these women?! If Bravo would take more time to find a diverse group of women this would not be an issue.

    When you think about NJ they argued over one thing Danielle, BH argued over one thing, a comment we never heard, DC, they focused on the Salihi’s. It is repetitive and boring and then they have a reunion where you think questions MIGHT be answered and they all play nice.

    I think they need to stop with Miami and just focus on the shows they have or wipe the slate clean and get all new women. These women are not stars for real. They have had their 15 minutes, let’s see what other fabulous socialites are in New York or whatnot. I mean damn, we have seen Avery grow into a damn woman. LOL!

    • error404 says:


      IIRC RHoNJ and RHoBH are huge hits. NJ may be one of the worst shows to ever hit television, but doesn’t it break all sorts of ratings records?

      s4 of RHoNY was entirely built around “you need to get a hobby” and RHoAt has always been the Nene vs. Kim show. Yes, it’s formulaic, as is all tv. If it ain’t broke, why fix it.

      But I do agree with you about cast replacement, and apparently so does Bravo as they do replace people regularly. RHoNY apparently needs a major overhaul, I’m just surprised they didn’t realize it sooner.

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

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      • Amber...RealWife says:

        ITA NY definitely needs new blood ASAP. These women have been around way too long! Countless and Kellybeensomeone are has beens who refuse to admit they are not the cool girls but instead the dumb mean girls being led by Jill aka MiriamKnight. Ramona also is a walking advertisement for her products and has selective Tourretts, with Alex just being too nice, breaking out in hives when confronting others. I like my fights without hives please! LOL

        As for other new franchises I say “Yes Please!”. I couldn’t stand to watch if they brought back DC! I mean puh-leeze, it was as bargain basement as Lynda’s modeling agency! LOL

        No to DirtyassCat, MaryInTheBottle, OpportunisticMichaele, CougarLynda, and even though I liked her BoringStacie. In the words of TaylorsaurusLips “ENOUGH!! (Sorry Lynn and Rich):)

        • Brigid A. says:

          NY holds no interest for me this coming season. These women are not Carrie Bradshaw & her gang from SATC. Or was Bravo counting on another Kelly meltdown in a new travel destination, Morocco? As I mentioned, just seeing Jill’s “cry face” in the previews turned my stomach.

          It’s kind of sad because NY was the first HW show I watched.

          Bring on the Miami heat!!!!

          • quincyil says:

            I went over “Sex and the City 2” in my mind for our season four parody on Sundays and I couldn’t figure out how Jill and company would make their adventure like that movie. I guess it’s just that they went to an Islamic country and rode a camel.

            I doubt they got in trouble with authorities or went to a hashis den.

            Maybe, a designer sents some desert fashions for them to model in the hotel.

      • HD says:

        I don’t know about any records breaking but the show is horrible (NJ).

        I would say NY focused on an argument but the whole Kelly meltdown was what blew my mind even more than Jill and Bethanny. I could watch those two episodes over and over again and never get bored.

        Yes, it all is a formula. I watched this thing on how to make reality TV once and it all follows a formula where I can pretty much know what is going to happen from the formula but some things do get old.

        The thing with the cast replacement is they replace one woman. Why not replace them all like the Real World does which is one of the longest running reality shows ever so obviously that works. I can see if they want to keep them around for two seasons but maybe switch them all out after that. I guess they think we become attached to characters but if that is the case why is the Real World still on? Maybe people are attached to the format and not necessarily the people. Just thinking…

        • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

          I have often thought the same thing, HD, about cast replacement. IMO, Vicki has been around too long, as well as some others. 4 or 5 seasons is too long to be on a real housewife show.

          • Sha2000 says:

            I’m still hoping for a mash up. Lisa BH sent to spend a week with Teresa in NJ, NeNe from ATL set loose on Missy in DC, Carolynn NJ spending quality time with Kim Z of ATL….Thant would be good tv.

            • Sha2000 says:

              Opps! Caroline excuse me…how quickly they are forgotten.

              • RubyNewbie says:

                I do think they need to consider replacing the cast after a season or two. The ladies become too self aware and it comes off inauthentic. Or, they come in manufacturing drama to stay relevant. I think since Kyle was involved in the casting of her show, she was one of those calculating cast members looking to place herself front and center come hell or high water.

  4. Nat Yerba says:

    Has it occurred to anyone that Jill Zarin may be responsible for the delay of RHONY? Perhaps she’s thrown a legal curve ball at them. I could see her demanding to preview the show to determine if they’ve shown her in a good light this season. Just tossing out the idea.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      Nothing would surprise me. All this delay nonsense has really just set themselves up for people having big expectations for S4. I don’t believe the BS on why they delayed (does anyone?) and I don’t think they will ever live up to the hype they are trying to create.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Do we really think Jill/Bobby have enough money to take on Bravo? After Jill’s behind the scenes’ manipulation during S3, she would be on thin ice with Bravo. Her invitation to Camille to come to pal with the RHNY leads me to believe it is just a boring got to retool this mess situation.

  5. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Quincy – IMO, Tabitha was too nice to that red headed bully last night. She wasn’t a good stylist, she made the salon one that would not be visited twice and she was beyond disrespectful to her employer. Why she didn’t recommend getting rid of her surprised me.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      The owner said he couldn’t afford to get rid of her…she paid him $1,000 a month in rent for her chair. I agree if ever they should have fired someone for their behavior, it was her!

  6. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    “What do you think? Are there just too many Housewives shows out there now? Do we need another new Housewives Series? Will you be watching The Real Housewives of Miami?”

    There are way too many trashy broke-ass HW shows I don’t care about creating new franchises but they need to start replacing the cast with people who have real money. I feel like we were spoiled with the wealth displayed on BH and I know that wealth exists in NYC, Atlanta and the OC. I think Miami will bring it based on the BIO’s I read. But the days of watching posers, criminals, and faux rich HW’s is over for me, Show Me The Money!

    BTW – I have a perfect solution for the HW’s that get replaced and a perfect show for them – send them away and lock them up somewhere to fight over money – you know Big Brother style. We all know they will bring the drama and God knows they need the money.

    “If you haven’t seen Real City Housewive’s version of Beverly Hills Dinner Party From Hell, it is a must see!”

    I have watched this a couple times and have to say that RCH is brilliant! I love the time she takes to create this stuff for us, she is really great and has the best sense of humor.

    • error404 says:

      Yes, the RCH spoof was brilliant! Very well done and very funny. Kadooze to RCH!

      Actually, I think the fact that most of the HWs are broke makes me like it more. LOL One thing that I love love love about the whole franchise if how fake an awful they all are. Bitchy awful Kyle with her picture perfect marriage that can’t possibly be true. Everyone’s bff Kyle, in reality is a jealousy filled shrew. And Lisa, so so funny Lisa. Trash talking puppet master Lisa, who character asasignates everyone, but it’s funny so that’s ok then. Jill… so loving, so giving, so ready to help, until you cross her then she’ll make a career out of ruining your life. And “authentic Kiki”… the only “real” Real Housewife, who lives in a fantasy world of her own creation, complete with unicorns and pots of gold. Sheree and Kim Z, who seem to think they can tape some construction paper over the label of an Evian bottle one day while bored, and then announce tot he world they are high rolling bottled water executives cornering the market. I could be here all day!

      No, this seemingly endless supply of posers and wanna-bes constantly pretending to be the exact opposite of what they are, so pretending to be rich when you don’t have two pennies to rub together is perfect for them IMO. I even love the really rich ones, like Adrienne, the billionairess that dress like a $5 street walker. It’s better than the circus!

      • RubyNewbie says:

        True. For all the guttersniping trashiness of the Housewives franchise, it is a fascinating meditation on the human condition. I always find myself thinking what would make you want to do this show? Put yourself on display? Lie on camera? Etc. Some of these ladies could benefit from some serious introspection, but they’re too busy keeping up with the Joneses money, homes, wardrobes and taut flesh to be bothered! LOL

  7. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO, there are too many HW franchises – market saturation much? ITA with @Katie – I want to see the wealth – real wealth with the life style that should go with it. The fighting, criminals, franchise hijackers, ill mannered shrews, the alledged emotional/substance abusers, manufactured and prolonged drama over something too trivial to care about – not interested in watching that anymore. It is apparent by the number of commercials in each show that Bravo is making money and unfortunately they will keep dishing up crap until viewers/sponsors go away.

    As for the RHNY delay – it has to be because the franchise didn’t have enough of the aforementioned garbage in the can for S4. I have no interest in watching concurrently running franchises, the reunions/lost footage and probably the “producer’s cut” we will be treated to this evening.

    • klmh says:

      There is a reason these people will expose themselves to this type of ridicule, don’t you think? There has to be something to be gained from being filmed and it is a crap shoot at times on what the editing will come across like when finished.
      Adrienne’s plus on this is more attention to her Las Vegas hotel etc., and Lisa probably did it because she was asked by Kyle and thought it would be fun. These are the two in the whole bunch with serious money. Vicki keeps coming back for name recognition to sell her product but isn’t financially in the same league. Ramona and Jill and Bethany are selling their wares as well.
      I just can’t imagine why anyone would put themselves out there like that, other than for the notoriety, and truly wealthy people wouldn’t want their lives exposed in this fashion. These shows will draw women who want and need more in their lives, and they will lower their standards and reputation for it. jmo.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        All good points – some of these women are using the show to promote their businesses/create new businesses and some just want to promote themselves for their own personal reasons.

        • quincyil says:

          Why Taylor? Her business was software on the internet. I can only see damage from being in the public. If you sell makeup, I can see doing the shows.

  8. error404 says:

    Will I watch Miami? It will happen organically. I won’t make sure to watch, not will I make sure to skip. If it happens it happens, but I won’t force it either way. ”

    Will I watch NY? Actually, this one I might purposefully boycott. IDK, but I was actually incensed that they didn’t fire Kiki after her on camera psychotic break. She’s not Charlie Sheen, and the show would do just fine without her, plus there is something almost immoral about employing a mentally ill person for entertainment purposes. Yes, I was glued to the tube during “scary island” (a moniker I’m sure beautiful St John is still furious over!) but not because it “entertaining”. It may be human nature to rubberneck at a car crash, but no one ever says “That was great! Turn around and drive past again!”

  9. AZ Girl says:

    The Housewives franchises are over saturating the Bravo schedule. I loved when they broke them up and had Million Dollar Listing, Flipping Out, Tabatha, Top Chef and now Bethenny Ever After to “round out” the schedule between the shows. It is just too much with Miami. If Miami does turn out to be good I say get rid of Atlanta (it has run its course) and OC which has also run its course.

  10. LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

    I just saw Kelly on Rachael Ray gluing stuffed animals to a chair. It is her idea; she calls it a memory chair. Know what I did with all my kids’ left over and discarded but still in great condition beanie babies. I gave them to a friend of mine who works in a hospital. When their doctors go overseas to volunteer, they give a beanie baby to every child they innoculate. Just sayin’ Kelly.

    • klmh says:

      How neat is that. I have some beanie babies I would love to donate to your friends cause and would happily send them to her. I could ask Lynn for your email, with your permission, and we could go from there if you are interested. I can’t think of a better home for them.

    • vilzvet says:

      Yeah, there were no words for that. Rachael was over the moon about it, LOL. Loved that the first thing Luann talked about was her song from a year ago, and Ramona made sure to mention all the products and books they are still pushing.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      My son’s school just did a stuffed toy drive for the local hospital and police departments. Totally just saying charitable Kelly!

      • Sha2000 says:

        I’ve heard that beanie babies have been used on tiny premee’s, when place gently on top it feels like they are being held…don’t know if it’s true or not though. I’ve also heard that troops overseas put them in their jacket to hand to children; what a great way to spread peace & democracy than to make a child happy. Now as for gluing them on a chair??? My daughters have so many I could redo the entire living room & move on to the media room, thanks but no thanks crazy idea. Never liked that RR show she’s too cutesy, this proves it.

  11. WindyCityWondering says:

    Watching the RHNY on Rachel Ray – boring, boring and boring! Where is the new one?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I like Sonja, but what the hell was that?

    • I agree with you WCW, they were boring on Racheal Ray. It sounds like LuAnn almost falling off a camel in Morocco is the highlight of the season. I can see why the postponed it. They should probably cancel season 4.

      • HD says:

        I’m at work so I missed it. What were they talking about in general?

        • They talked about the upcoming season a little bit, Sonja mentioned that someone(LuAnn) almost falls off a camel, and they briefly discussed their business ventures. Their interview segment was short but they had another segment which each one of them gave some tips. LuAnn gave some etiquette tips, Ramona gave advice about how to start a business with $50, Jill gave some decorating tips, Alex gave a tip for a non-soggy ice bucket and Kelly taught us how to glue stuff animals to a chair(rolls eyes). It was boring and you didn’t miss a thing.

      • Sorry for the typo. I can see why *THEY* postponed it.

  12. viki55 says:

    Morning all. For anyone who remebers my post and sent prayers for my friend Chris Tempelton, thank you so much. She passed away early this morning and is now in the hands of her Savior. She was loved by our whole community and will be sadly missed.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sorry to hear she lost the battle – thoughts and prayers are with everyone.

    • klmh says:

      Thought and prayers are with you and her loved ones today. I am so sorry for your loss…

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I’m so sorry for your loss Viki…you’re in my prayers. xoxo

    • Cusi77 says:

      Viki_ Prayers and love to her way. Sorry for your loss.

    • I’m sorry for your loss Viki.

      • HD says:

        My condolences, Viki.

      • LavaLady (formerly known as American Idiot) says:

        I am so sorry for the loss of your friend, Viki.

        • Sha2000 says:

          So sorry Viki. I have a friend who is very sick now with cancer; I sincerely feel your loss right now because I ‘m scared my friend is slipping through our grasp no matter how much we hold on to her. I am praying that she will be the exception and some how have the strength of mind, heart and spirit to remain here with us. She is a mother of three young children and I know she is fighting for them more than even herself or her husband. I want her to stay for all the obvious reasons and cannot imagine their young lives not graced by her presence. I admit a selfishness too, I want to keep my friend but I know that no matter what we will be friends again one day somewhere. I believe that for you too. Friendship like love never dies, you will meet again. I am convinced of it and hope you are too.

          Peace to you & your friend. Please pray for my mine.


          • viki55 says:

            Take heart that her spirit will remain with those that love her. Corinthians 13:6-13 “Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trust, always hopes, always pereveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned as a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love”

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      My condolences, Viki.

    • Brigid A. says:

      Viki, I kept your friend in my prayers. Please accept my condolences. xoxo

    • FlowerPower (no longer StillaWallflower) says:

      So sorry for your loss, Viki. My condolences to her friends and family.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh Vicki55- so sorry to hear of your loss.

    • boston02127 says:

      @viki55—I’m so sorry. Sending you a hug.

    • Amber...RealWife says:

      So sorry for you loss Viki.

    • twoile says:

      @Vicki55, So very sorry 4 the loss of a dear friend, she was blessed by having been your friend as you were also. Blessings to all, be kind to yourselves, take care Jeanne

  13. Olivia says:

    Has Bravo saturated the market with too many “Housewives”? Hell yes!

    Beginning with the premise that most of these women are essentially unknown to one another when the series begins, Bravo plays off the same themes over and over. What better way to have them all gather together than the following:

    1. Fashion shows (how many of these have we suffered through?)
    2. Cooking lessons (clips from the Miami franchise are including another “cooking event” which was also filmed by DC, NYC, OC casts.)
    3. Psychic readings
    4. Botox injections/underarm vacuum cleaning (usually accompanied by friend or relative)
    5. Breast reduction/enhancements (usually accompanied by friend or relative)
    6. Jewelry shopping excursions
    7. “Girls weekend”
    8. Family event (birthday party, vow renewals, wedding, holiday gathering, barbecue, tennis match)
    9. Dinner party (usually includes the “drama” with somebody taking offense at somebody else)
    10. Ensemble vacations (Miami Beach, Scary Island, Atlantic City, Italy, Morocco)

    Since we have become aware that overall, most of these “friends” are merely paired together for the purpose of the show, Bravo must provide locations where they can all “meet up” and appear to be doing these events on their own when most of us recognize that, except for those gatherings, these women abhor one another!

    It has gotten to the point where I can almost predict what comes next.

    As for the Miami “coven”, they all appear to have been hired off Craigslist!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      “As for the Miami “coven”, they all appear to have been hired off Craigslist!”

      ROFLMAO Olivia..damn I missed you!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It would be fun to be in a HW focus group! This blog would give Bravo a wake up call and then some…..

    • error404 says:

      “What better way to have them all gather together than the following:”


      Because that’s not what real housewives do? If they filmed women performing brain surgery and writing the great american novel, then it wouldn’t be a show about housewives, now would it.

      • Olivia says:

        No, but the premise is built around their “friendships” that are essentially non existent.

        They really don’t “chum” around together. They rarely gather unless for filming which is why Bravo must “invent” reasons to have them appear in the same room.

        Does anyone believe that Camille really wanted to spend “quality time” with Kyle? Or that Jill looked forward to another evening of Alex and Simon? Or that Stacy found the Salahi’s fascinating company? Or that Vicki cleared her schedule to spend time with Lynn?

        Bravo created a series, hired “interesting personalities”, devised a formula to match the narrative and drew the viewer into a make believe “friendship factory” that did not exist.

        It may have not been as noticable had Bravo stuck to one or two Housewife franchises, but when they branched out to other cities the pre packaged formula began to unravel.

        • Sam says:

          I agree that the main problem is the fake friendships.

          NY was, to me, far more compelling than the other franchises because the relationship between Jill and Bethenny seemed real, and I couldn’t miss an episode once that relationship started falling apart. The other franchises I can take or leave. (I hope that this admission doesn’t get me banned from the board!)

          And the very first episode I saw of NY was the one where they went to the horseshow, because I’d heard about it on a horse forum. (After this I watched all the previous episodes so I could figure out who these women were to each other.) So I’d say that in addition to having real relationships, it’s important for Bravo to have this ladies go to interesting places. Getting the women drunk after sticking them together in a restaurant just so fights will break out isn’t an approach that keeps me watching very long.

          I also agree that by having so many different versions of the same concept, Bravo is diluting its Housewives brand. I can’t work up the interest in so many shows with the same formula — and this is true whether it’s Housewife shows or cooking shows or whatever. So I’d like to see Bravo aim for more diversity in its programming.

          • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

            RHONY was the first housewife show I watched, and the first two episodes I watched were when Ramona freaked out on Alex & Simon at the dinner party, and the finale when they all went to 21 Club for dinner. The reason I started watching was because the housewives would go to locations in NYC that my husband and I actually were at. I admit that I liked Bethenny and Jill’s friendship when they got along, and I didn’t mind Bethenny and LuAnn’s earlier friendship either, driver comment aside. One of my absolutely favorite and funniest scenes of RHONY was from Season 2 when Jill and Bethenny went to Francky’s salon in the Hamptons to get their hair done and facials before the Tea Party, then Brad Boles strolls in looking like “Roy Rogers” according to Bethenny. Then Brad called Jill’s hairpiece “Ginger”, Ally called and told Jill she fell down some steps in Paris, and Bethenny claimed she needed to go on a diet like Calista Flockhart. I nearly dyed laughing! I miss those old episodes. Unfortunately, Season 3 was painful to watch.

  14. nancy says:

    While I may agree or not as to the over exposure of the HW’s. We all seem to watch and comment on them.

    • klmh says:

      Good point! I have lost interest in many of the bravo shows but am glad Q and Lynn blog about them. Its less painful to read the word than watch the show. I will watch this evening’s BH because I hope some questions will be answered, but I won’t hold my breath. And I will look forward to Lynn’s and or Q’s recap of NY and Miami, as well as OC but do not think they will perk my interest enough to watch. We’ll just see.

      • quincyil says:

        I am not good at making comments on the housewives shows, so I am helping with the shows that you can simply take notes on. Lynn is an expert on the housewives and all of the gossip that goes with them. Lynn offered the following and I accepted: “Million Dollar Listing,” one more “Tabath Salon Takeover,” “The Artists’ Studio (which doesn’t seem to have a set time yet,) “The Apprentice” until Nene gets sent home, and “9 by Design” from HGTV (it was originally on Bravo,)

        I would not know what to say about the Miami housewives or Bethenny so you all should be glad that I am on the board with you for those discussions.

        Well, we have news. Our new baby who will arrive in July is a girl. My 19 month old granddaughter told me yesterday and it was an interesting conversation. Her dollie is a sister. It took me while to figure that out as I thought the ultrasound was tomorrow.

        The baby is healthy and a swimmer like her grandmother.

  15. error404 says:

    I’m not convinced the problem is with the HW formula. After all, all of these other shows: Flipping Out, 9 By Design, Million $ Listing, Millionaire Matchmaker, Sheer Genius, Tabitha’s Salon Takeover, The Fashion Show, Launch My Line, Top Chef, Top Chef Just Deserts, Work of Art, etc.. are all just as formulaic and predictable.

    I always found the original RHoOC a total snooze fest, but the most recent RHoBH I was glued to, so I can’t say they should quit finding new cities.

    I kinda feel they are boxed into a corner. Yes they are in danger of becoming the “All HW, 24/7” network, but then again, the shows break all records while their other efforts kinda mostly bomb.

    • Olivia says:

      A movie remake is hardly as good as the original. The same goes for this series.

      Bravo found a formula and it worked for awhile with OC and NYC. But when it started to repeat that winning formula, creating 6 almost identical series out of the success of perhaps two, the audience begins to fade.

      How many times can “created drama” played against the same background hope to succeed? How many stupid fights carried over a period of 12 weeks and borne out by 6 different franchises keep the audience interest?

      NY was all about hating Danielle Staub.
      NYC was Team Bethenny/Team Jill.
      DC was all about the Salahi’s.
      BH was all about a casual remark that none of us heard.
      OC never had one dominant theme but Vicki’s jealousy toward her castmates held for 5 seasons.

      God only knows what “theme” will thread its way through Miami but it’s almost certain to be something as trivial that binds the cast.

      • quincyil says:

        I think Miami is about Sex.

        I think the shows listed by error404 are formulas too. That’s why I divide them and serve them on the platter the same way every week.

        • Brigid A. says:

          Thanks for the Tabatha recap! Have been battling a bad cold and fell asleep. And btw, don’t think I didn’t notice that little zinger letting us know that kooky stylist Dakota is “from California.” LOL!

          I’m looking forward to RHOM! Hope your prediction is right, Quincy, because sex drama sounds pretty entertaining after a traumatizing season of RHOBH. I’m only tuning in tonight because Kyle was so focused on her fight with Camille & the psychic that Kim escaped the usual beat-up session.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Other networks will be bringing their version of the HW franchise and then Bravo will have to do something about their “formula”. At this point, new cities seems to be the only draw – sounds like NY is too boring so Bravo throws in Miami. Fans who have been waiting for NY are not amused nor that eager to take on yet another group of howives.

  16. ramonacoaster says:

    Anyone watch Rachel Ray today? The RHONY season 4 cast was on it. They all gave examples of their expertise on the tip-off show:

    Alex gave tips on how to avoid ice used for cocktails at parties from melting.
    Jill gave tips on putting sticky tape on hem of dress to shorten it if you don’t have time to get them hemmed and using a lemon to get self tanner off your hands.
    Kelly gave tips on how to make a memory chair by hot glueing stuffed animals to a chair????????
    Luann gave tips on what silverware and stemware to use at a dinner party.
    Sonja gave tips on tough hair days and how to put on a hair piece.
    And last but certainly not least, Ramona gave tips on how to open up your own business on $50 bucks.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Did it seem like a desperate ploy to keep their names in the viewers’ minds?

    • Fairweather Viewer says:

      You mean Kelly didn’t provide a public service announcement regarding the importance of protecting a name on Twitter? Well, perhaps they took away Kelly’s phone and would only allow her near stuffed animals so as to avoid the possibility of her having a mental breakthrough on the show thereby causing harm to herself or the audience.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      I just watched a clip and it is all about them getting along and product placement. It was boring just like S4 will be.

  17. Adgirl says:

    Remember when Who Wants to be a Millionaire was on primetime every single night?
    I love chocolate but I can’t eat it for every meal.

    After watching yet another NeNe & Kim Z “Make-a-Face-Off” I knew I have been wasting my time with these idiots.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Well I could happily have chocolate with every meal – but I get your point! As for the face offs – thought bubbles would be an interesting addition.

  18. Fairweather Viewer says:

    I think Bravo should span the globe and do other parts of the world such as RHW of London, RHW of Sydney, RHW of Beijing, etc. Of course, language might be an issue in certain locations but I wonder how the HW’s on the shows here in the states would compare against HW’s in other cities around the world.

  19. klmh says:

    New territory in the blogosphere: lawsuits against blogger.


    • RubyNewbie says:

      I hope she takes that smug, spiteful, manipulative bigot to the cleaners! This is not about free speech. This was about attempting to malign an entire organization (NAACP) and casually making this woman–with a life, a good name, a family and a career –collateral damage. The video in its entirety vindicates her. He edited it with clearly malicious intent. I say she has a good case.

      • Adgirl says:

        I’ve been dying to know who at the NAACP leaked the tape originally.

      • klmh says:

        It will be interesting to see the outcome of the decision. So many blogs report about unsubstantiated rumors as truth, you have to wonder how it will change postings on blogs or blogs themselves on the internet. I am not referring to this blog obviously, but to some others, ie. realfauxhousewives, as an example. Should be an interesting suit to watch.

  20. MichellefromNY says:

    Lynn, i dont know if you saw but i answered your question regarding the camera i saw trailing ramona sunday night. Im reposting it below.

    My husband said it wasnt branded so its very possible ramona just hired someone to film her. It was also a small dslr camera, it wasnt like those huge production cameras which indicates even more that it might not have been bravo.

    But then again, bravo could be covering their tracks and filming secretly because they dont want people to know that they have no material. Using a camera that doesnt attract notice following you around would be a grrat coverup. And i doubt jill would let bravo miss filming her big debut on the runway.

    The reason i really thought it was bravo is because even though there were a lot of those kind of cameras milling about at fashion week, this one specifically was tailing ramona. And the camera woman and ramona were talking like they knew each other. As we were walking out and ramona was walking out at the same time, the camera lady walked with her around the corner. And while wyclef jean had a swarm of paparazzi surrounding him as he left, she only had one camera and no paparazzi.

    I really dont know, i forgot to ask. I was too excited to meet her to ask the tough questions lol. I guess we’llfind out once the season starts.

  21. Adgirl says:

    I don’t know why I enjoyed this so much. I dislike the show and the parties involved.

    Chuck Lorre, the creator of Two and a Half Men said:

    “I exercise regularly. I eat moderate amounts of healthy food. I make sure to get plenty of rest. I see my doctor once a year and my dentist twice a year. I floss every night. I’ve had chest x–rays, cardio stress tests, EKG’s and colonoscopies. I see a psychologist and have a variety of hobbies to reduce stress. I don’t drink. I don’t smoke. I don’t do drugs. I don’t have crazy, reckless sex with strangers.

    “If Charlie Sheen outlives me, I’m gonna be really REALLY PISSED.”

    • RubyNewbie says:


      That interview Charlie gave recently was a monument of crackery. He is so deep in denial and needs a lot of help. He is nowhere near ready to go back to work. Dude was talking about being a recreational crackhead! Ummm, no.

      • HD says:

        It was sad to hear his interview. He just has not seen himself yet. One day he will see himself and what looks back at him will not be pretty. There is a starting point and a stopping point to everything. I pray he gets the help he needs before it is too late.

        • Katie (aka kats2) says:

          Robert Downey Jr – is living proof anyone can clean up their act.

          • HD says:

            Amen, Katie! Any day is another day to start all over again! Just because you did something today doesn’t mean you have to do it tomorrow. He can turn this all around. All he has to do is want to.

  22. HD says:

    Watching OC…I forgot Jo started the singing thing.

    So we have…

    OC…Jo & Gretchen singing
    NY…Countess singing
    NJ…Danielle singing
    ATL…Kim singing

    I guess that just leaves BH and Miami. I wonder who will be the break out singers on that show.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      For BH I vote Kyle because. . .

      Kyle reminds me of “Don’t it Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Crystal Gayle the circa 70’s singer with the hair that was way too long just like Kyle’s

      That’s right I don’t think Kyle looks like Demi at all, she looks like good old Crystal.

      Miami – I could careless. Where is a good strong hurricane when you need one (of course one where just HW’s are blown away, no innocent people)

      • boston02127 says:

        I googled Crystal Gayle and Kyle does look like her. I don’t think Kyle is a real beauty at all. She’s got freaky eyes. She’d look better with a modern haircut.

      • jeang says:

        Thanks, us normal people here in Florida appreciate the distinction as for who should be blown away. After surviving 3 direct hits in 2004, that is not the way I want to go out.

        • Katie (aka kats2) says:

          Oh Jeang – I made sure I added the “just HW’s, no innocent people” just in case, so happy I did.

          “normal” made me laugh.

      • lillybee says:

        I think Kyle looks like an older version of Cote dePalma on NCIS.

  23. tweatcyn says:

    @error “Kiki’s not Charlie Sheen” LOL, are ya sure about that?
    I am amazed at how today’s blog and board perfectly mirror my own blog topic today “Bored by the Formula”, since I wrote it B4 reading Lynn. Last time I’ll self promote I promise, but I do hope you’ll swing by for a visit today and comment too. http://www.tweattwaddle.blogspot.com
    Lastly, my condolences for lost friends and prayers for the rest. Friends are family we choose for ourselves.

  24. boston02127 says:

    Did Kelly really make a stuffed animal chair with a glue gun on Rachael today? Please say it’s so. Ha ha ha. Yep..Kelly, you’re right up there with Bethenny. Ha ha ha ha.

    Kelly’s so gun ho with a glue gun. Her feather jewelry, furniture. After a couple of humid days NY and her house (her ex’s house) will probably fall apart.

  25. jeang says:

    What is up with Jill and KKB twitter silence today???

    • Adgirl says:

      They are probably bored with Housewives too.

      • boston02127 says:

        Exactly, they have nothing to talk about. You’ll never see a tweet like “cleaning the house today” or “vegging on couch”.
        The two of them always have to tweet to make themselves sound like Hollywood stars. Little do they remember the show their on has Housewive in the title.

  26. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    So on the last WWHL, Andy told a cute story about how Phaedra was having trouble breathing because she was wearing Spanx during the reunion that were too tight (yes this is true) They had to stop filming the reunion so she could take them off.

    Hmmm, this does make you wonder how you can use this story and information against someone who is just entering the Shape-wear business?

    Also if anyone follows Bravo on twitter can you please stop following them now – here’s why.

    Bravotv Bravotv
    Ok, we ONLY need 23 more followers to reach 90K. Help us out!!!

    I’m a ball buster today.

  27. jeang says:

    Really, Betheny has nearly four times the followers for the entire Bravotv twitter?

  28. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    OT – this makes me so sick

    CBS News says correspondent Lara Logan “suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault” while covering the resignation of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak.

  29. klmh says:

    The ingredients to the drink served at tonights dinner party is posted on Bravo:


  30. VincenzoNewYork says:

    Hey all!

    I have been reading Cat’s Book, “Inbox Full,” and it is quite an interesting read! My book was delivered earlier than I had expected, which is always fabulous, because my impatience is always diffult to satiate! My only comment, which may be negative, is that the book needs some editing. I do feel that many commas are missing from certain parts of the book, and I feel like an English teacher trying to correct a student’s work! I was supposed to be a mathematics teacher, therefore, this is a completely different arena for me! However, in spite of the grammar and sentence structure, I am certain my written work could use editing, she is a talented writer. Her thoughts are very descriptive, which add to the images we picture in our minds, and she has an intriguing story to tell.

    If anyone has felt reluctant to purchase the book, please do, because it is worth every penny.

    • VincenzoNewYork says:

      **please do not **

    • LynnNChicago says:

      You should Tweet that to her, I know she’d appreciate it 🙂

    • boston02127 says:

      @Vincenzo~~My posts must drive you nuts! I’ve had so many teachers tell me that I write like I talk. I do keep trying to change that thou.

      • VincenzoNewYork says:

        @Boston: Don’t worry about grammatical errors! It is a rare occurance that I detect them. Since I have had some time to ponder my critique, I actually do think that her writing is more authentic due to the slight errors, because it adds a dimension of flavor to her writing. However, we all can learn from our mistakes, and written communication can take on many forms.

        Oh and Boston: I just recently read that when we read books, we actually start to emulate an author’s writing style. Isn’t that fascinating? The more we read, especially books, we can hone our own writing abilities. Always encourage yourself and reward yourself and little by little, your writing will improve.

        BH- It was delicious!! Faye Resnick= Biotch!

  31. MichellefromNY says:

    So i was watching really old oc episodes and im so confused. Is slade that jo was dating gretchen’s slade?

    And if jo was going for a music career, then she is the original bravo recording star, right?

    Also vicki is SUCH a monster wow! even then, when she wasn’t the “original” and only one. Having a psychic confirm that she is allowed to act like a psycho freak? “Surprising” her son and making a scene in front of all his friends and embarrassing him because she was mad that he wasn’t super psyched to see her? Wow, I really hate her. So happy shes not my mom

    • klmh says:

      I’ll just throw this in because I didn’t watch OC’s first few seasons. Jo was Slade’s girlfriend, and this is the corker, Gretchen now has the rights to her songs, purchased I’m sure at Slade’s suggestion. It was announced on one of the shows she was being interviewed on and she mentioned it would come as a surprise to Jo to hear about it. Really nace…
      At least I believe that to be correct.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      Yes same scummy Slade (Some history – Gretchen and Jo were BFF’s they no longer talk, when Gretchen came into some money from the sugar daddy she purchased the rights to Jo’s music) Nice, right?

      Yes Jo is the first HW to sing.

      Yep Vicki and all of them were awful then and still are maybe even worst.

      • boston02127 says:

        I hate to sound shallow (but sometimes I am) I wouldn’t go out with him just cuz his name is Slade Smiley.

        Lol, Although I could marry him and be Shanna Smiley and have babies and name them names like Ivana, Sunny, Dee, Rusty.

        • Katie (aka kats2) says:

          Add me to the list of peeps who can be shallow. There are things I could never deal with (his name) and it’s stuff other people just don’t even notice or doesn’t bother them.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          oh PLUH-LEEZE have babies with him.

          Rusty Smiley? Priceless.

          • MrWestVirginia says:

            And just think, if that Hannah Montana girl married Slade, her name would be Miley Smiley!! Hardy har har.

      • Adgirl says:

        Slade probably got a fee for brokering the deal. So he was the only person to benefit from that deal.

  32. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    I have to side with Star on this one and I don’t like Star or Nene.

    Star Jones has broken her silence in response to “Real Housewives of Atlanta” star Nene Leakes’ recent attack against her.

    The two television personalities recently clashed while filming “Celebrity Apprentice,” leading Leakes to tell Wendy Williams last week, “I wouldn’t spit on Star if she was on fire.”

    Jones broke her silence exclusively to Life & Style, telling the magazine:

    “I did Celebrity Apprentice to raise money and awareness for a charity [the American Heart Association] that has been instrumental in my life, not to see it reduced to a cliché where black women attack one another for publicity’s sake…I haven’t commented on any of her comments in hopes that she would remember that we all participated in this show for charity and not as a vehicle to promote ourselves and such hatred. I was clearly wrong and I decided to finally respond.”

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I like Star (ducking)

      I think she’s smarter than people realize.

      She just went wild with her tacky, over the top, wedding to that icky guy and lost alot of her credibility- and her job. Stupid.

      But she was always the fat ugly duckling, and when she lost all the weight and had surgeries- she finally felt like a swan, and boy did it go to her head.

      Too bad that Nene doesn’t realize that not all TV networks are going to reward her snarky bitchiness with extra airtime. She’s a one trick pony.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Phaedra got it right – RHoA is the only thing NeNe has going for herself. Starr finally called her on her classless behavior and she won’t be the last to do so.

        • Katie (aka kats2) says:

          I think Nene going on this show on a big network is going to ruin her. She is not in a good place and is not the same.

    • quincyil says:

      Not good for Nene. Star seemed to win that confrontation.

      • when the rest of America, who are not familiar with her from
        housewives, sees the way NeNe treats people, they are not
        going to think she is “all that”- they will be horrified. She is a
        bully of the worst kind and her sense of entitlement has left
        her old fans cold-
        what a disappointment she has become.

      • Amber...RealWife says:

        I feel for Star. She went on the show for her charity and yes for publicity also. However, she didn’t go on the show to get into a catfight with an obnoxious, intimidating, violent bully. To have her good deed turned into a spectacle by a classless whore like Nene must have been humiliating for Star. Her education, law degrees and tv/journalism credits flew out the door the moment that horrendous hooligan assaulted her. Viewers seeing this will always remember Star being the victim of the ridiculous ghetto attack by Nene, that brought DonaldTrump record ratings. Nene, on the other hand, is in hog heaven, basking in the glow of once again publicly humiliating a foe, giving interviews, soundbites and sound effects. TRASH!

  33. error404 says:

    Did Maury just pick up a 60 lb child by her head?!?! Um, neck trauma anyone.

  34. boston02127 says:

    From Ebay:

    NWT HELMUT LANG Membrane Leggings Sz 6 $275 Jill Zarin
    NWT RACHEL ROY Silk Sleeveless Top Sz 6 $695 Jill Zarin

    Didn’t she claim to be a size one?

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      She is selling stuff on ebay? Why not give it to a charity or something?

      Yes I think she did claim to be a one or some crazy model size. But she has lost weight, I know she wants us to think it’s her new crap she’s selling but it’s not.

      • boston02127 says:

        The seller is from Horsham, Pennsylvania. She listed those.
        The pants are for sale for $89.00. The shirt is selling for

        There are also JZ bedding sets for sale. That seller is from
        Skaneateles, NY.

        No bids on any JZ stuff.

        • Adgirl says:

          OK that would be hysterical if somebody/anybody using the name Jill Zarin was selling old used underpants on ebay. Especially after @kikilet-twitter crisis.

          Actually it would be funnier if someone used Countess LuAnn’s name.

          • quincyil says:

            Kim Z was selling gifted designer fashions on ebay at one time, wasn’t she? I remember reading about it.

  35. WSL says:

    I KNOW, we are all still having
    of Jill modeling GIRDLES for Bobby
    BUT, WE R SAFE !!!!!!!!!!!!
    From seeing Fog Horn’s
    NAKED BODY !!!!!!!!!!

    PETA, to the RESCUE !
    We know Jill goes on a campaign to soothe her tiny self esteem, when ever Miss B. displays an accomplishment. So we can figure, she has dogged Peta at least 50 Xs. by now.

    Zang Toi.

    Every other “walker” at Toi’s show, was adorned in FUR !

    In case you forgot Jill,
    Peta is the flagship organization against FUR.
    Peta :”Whether it came from an animal on a fur farm or one who was trapped in the wild, every fur coat, trinket, and bit of trim caused an animal tremendous suffering—and took away a life. ”

    Jill sweetheart, You Blew IT
    (But we were saved needing MANY trash cans, even w/ major air brushing)!

    • Adgirl says:

      But Kelly wisely pointed out (gag):

      PETA doesn’t say don’t wear fur (or eat meat, use rabbit foot charms etc.).
      Just don’t be MEAN to them.


    • MichellefromNY says:

      Personally, I think PETA is ridiculous. I’m all against abusing animals. Its wrong and disgusting. But the extreme which many PETA supporters take this compassion is a little too much. Protesting KFC by lying in a pool of blood naked? and whats with the naked campaign? Are they trying to get people to be vegan by making it sexy? Puhleasssee. I love meat and will always eat it and dont find anything wrong with it. But maybe thats just me.

      At least bethenny stands by her beliefs and doesn’t wear fur. But Kelly–cmon stop changing your mind every three seconds. It makes you sound stupid and honestly, I don’t want to hear your opinion on anything because of your flakiness. Stand by what you believe and then maybe I’ll respect you more. Maybe.

  36. HD says:

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO that Lisa said she wanted to buy the medium a new cardigan!!

  37. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    Is Faye Auditioning? Why does she get a talking head throughout this episode?

    • HD says:

      I think because she was an integral part of the dinner.

      • Katie (aka kats2) says:

        So was Alison. I would love to hear from Alison and let her try to explain the crap she said after the dinner.

        • HD says:

          Allison realized she made a royal fool out of herself and did not want to go back on camera. Would you? Allison fell on her own sword that night. I wouldn’t relive it.

    • klmh says:

      Good question. She DID give that crap hello to Camille. I now see why Camille felt that way.

  38. boston02127 says:

    Watching Allison smoking that fake cigarette makes me want to knock it down her throat.

  39. klmh says:

    What a rude statement from Kyle about pulling out a credit card loud enough for Allison to hear! Like she is there to entertain her? Geez, she’s crass.

    • HD says:

      I understand being curious however Allison did say a million and one times she was OFF THE CLOCK! Damn! Leave it alone. Eat your food, drink your drinks, go home.

  40. boston02127 says:

    It doesn’t look like Kim is drinking. I don’t see one of those big drinks in front of her, just water.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      She was asked by Alison and Kim said she had something like 6 soft drinks (pepsi’s or something).

    • klmh says:

      The statement that Allison made, about her having just 4 cokes, speaks volumes. She said how to do have 4 cokes and be that happy or something similar, and Kim had difficulty finishing her sentence. At least that’s how I read it. She was also drinking a “coke” in the last show in the limo. Vodka or something similar to hide it is my guess.

      • Katie (aka kats2) says:

        What? She was drinking alcohol? I didn’t hear that at all. I got the coke and Kim said something about not drinking.

      • klmh says:

        Yes, thats what she said. Allison asked her about how she was so happy with the cokes, and Kim had some difficulty finishing the sentence.

        • klmh says:

          Those of us that have had problems with alcohol tend to hide it in other drinks. My friend used cranberry juice, I used cokes too.

          • Katie (aka kats2) says:

            I know but that’s not what I heard. I will have to watch it again.

            • klmh says:

              Me too.

            • NMhousewife says:

              I still don’t get that Kim is a big drinker compared to some of the other housewives whether it be NY or OC. I didn’t get that she was stumbling over her words either because of drinking, she normally stumbles a bit when she has conversation. I tend to be that way too because of shyness and I don’t drink at all. That’s not to say she doesn’t drink, but compared to when Ramona is sloshed or some of those OC ladies, she seems stone-cold sober to me.

          • mamecastle says:

            Maybe it was “COKE”?

  41. lillybee says:

    It looks like Taylor may have coined a phrase. Rush Limbaugh today threatened to go all Egypt on Obama if healthcare is not repealed.

  42. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    Based on this episode and excluding Kim and Adrienne – all of these other women are pathetic. Like HD said above eat, drink, go home.

  43. Adgirl says:

    From wetpaint.com

    Kyle Richards on Her Friendship With Taylor Armstrong: It Was “Made to Seem Bigger on the Show”

    These three are working on their friendship, but Lisa still looks a little wary of how close Kyle and Taylor have become.
    Reality TV can be quite deceiving. What looked like an awesome, super tight friendship between Kyle Richards and Taylor Armstrong this season (hand holding and all!) was, according to Kyle, “made to seem bigger on the show.” ORLY, Kyle? The Housewife explains: “We’re friends. I mean, we’re not best friends. I’m friendly with her.” Sounds a bit like a nice way of saying, “The woman scares the crap out of me, but she does know where I live so…” Yeah, we’re onto you, Kyle!

    Kyle also talked about Taylor’s, um, name switch-a-roo from Shanna to Taylor. “I didn’t know Taylor before the show. I know she said her name was Shanna, so I’m confused about her name. Maybe Taylor is her last name? I’m not sure why she changed her name,” she says.

    When asked if she thinks Taylor is a pathological liar, Kyle didn’t offer much in defense of her “friend.” “Not that I’ve seen? I don’t know,” she responds, unconvincingly.

    Maybe Taylor/Shanna isn’t the only fibber in the Hills!


    • NMhousewife says:

      sounds like Kyle is trying to distance herself now that she knows Taylor is pretty hated now. She should have thought twice before favoring Taylor all season over Kim.

    • RubyNewbie says:

      Spin control in full effect. Hindsight is 20/20, huh Kyle? Taylor is gonna be massacred next season. If Kyle will throw her sister under the bus then Taylor doesn’t stand a chance. She has it coming though.

      • It's Hot In Texas says:

        Not only have we seen the “real” Taylor this season, we saw the “real” Kyle! It is too late for her…

        • RubyNewbie says:

          I’m wondering just how wrong Allison was about Kyle. Not as wrong as we originally thought.

          And as always, Taylor is a lowlife snake. Playing both sides against the middle, what a creep!

    • Crisanna says:

      So I guess the lovefest is over now that Taylor’s been outed?

  44. NMhousewife says:

    SO much more evidence on tape that Taylor WAS behind a lot of the drama between Kyle and Camille….why didn’t they show this during the season??

    • RubyNewbie says:

      I guess the producers were going with a different narrative back then but the feedback from the blogosphere now indicates a Taylor takedown is in order.

  45. Kellita says:

    Hi everyone!

    I’m watching the Lost Footage of the dinner party, but disappointed that much of it we’ve already seen. Is it just me, but does Faye have an odd-looking face? Has she had tuns of plastic surgery or something. Something about her face looks so weird and unnatural to me.

    • Kellita says:

      And by “tuns” I mean tons.

      • NMhousewife says:

        IMO she defintely has had tons of surgery but not any more freaky looking than Taylor.

        • quincyil says:

          Me too! I really like her. She was a star as a child, but she seems like us. I think her quirky sense of humor is fun.

          Dede didn’t look too bad last night either. She had bad moments, but she seemed to know how all of this would look on screen. She was trying to control the soothsayer.

    • klmh says:

      I kept trying to write a comment about her face, but kept coming up with critical remarks. You did a great job! Yes, she is beyond “odd looking” to me.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      Yes she does similar to Adrienne. Some nips and tucks to pull her face back.

      • mamecastle says:

        I think it’s nose #4, lips #7 and the standard chin #2 available to all the freaks in So Cal. They all look so similar!

  46. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    So we now know that it was Faye who started the whole limo discussion about Camille and the producers heard it and most likely told Camille before they even arrived.

    Kyle, Camille, Lisa, Taylor and of course Alison all went to that dinner looking for trouble – and got it.

    I cannot stand how Kyle rages, with her head and arms thrashing about, I swear its equivalent to a child having a tantrum

    Hey Taylor I have a word for you to spell = Liar

    Hey Kyle here’s a word for you to spell =Sister

    And we knew it was Taylor who started the trouble in NYC and I knew it was not just telling Camille about Kim.

    Can someone watch the rerun with close captioning and tell me what Kim said when Alison was asking her about what she was drinking, it was not clear and all I heard was coke or something and DID NOT hear her say she was drinking any alcohol.

    • Cusi77 says:

      Kat2_ I think Taylor was the one playing both sides of the fence!

    • NMhousewife says:

      I heard her say she had 4 cokes and was not a big drinker. I mentioned upthread that I don’t see Kim as slurring her words or being noticeably drunk (not like Ramona or some of the OC ladies have been). She seems to stumble during conversation regularly, but I sometimes do the same thing in public settings because of shyness, and I don’t drink. That’s not to say she doesn’t drink, but I get the impression maybe she is making an effort not to drink by sticking to water, sodas, whatever because of past issues.

      • error404 says:

        I agree, except that I don’t see her stumble so much, as just quit. She’ll be very articulate and coherent for the first minute and then as the other women just talk over her or do that annoying “Oh yeah, well….” rebuttal thing people do when looking for a fight, Kim just abruptly ends the conversation. It’s like she’ll just quit mid sentence once she realizes the other person has no interest in an actual conversation, but is only talking AT her.

  47. Cusi77 says:

    Taylor, Shana, Shanna, whatever- Was Camille’s informant during the previous weeks to the dinner from hell! I believe what Camille says! Allison is disgusting but she got Kyle’s somehow… I do not agree the way she talk about Kyle dying or her kids disappearing…

    Kyle is a big fat liar. The truth about the conversation between Kyle and Camille is right in the middle… IMO Kyle was more than having a friendly conversation about Spring break, she was probably more in an interrogating attitude that Camille felt attacked… Reason for which Kim couldn’t defend Kyle and was nervous every time there was confrontation

    • RubyNewbie says:

      That makes sense. So Kim had Kyle’s back by keeping her mouh shut. If she’d gotten into it perhaps Kyle’s tone would have become an issue. I think Kim just doesn’t want to deal with Kyle’s temper.

  48. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    Just watched it again and Kim does not say anything about alcohol she’s drinking. 4 cokes and something about not usually as Alison pressed her on why she wasn’t drinking.

    • Kellita says:

      I got the impression that it was just coke. Maybe she was on the wagon, or not drinking in front of her sister.

      • RubyNewbie says:

        Maybe Allison sensed she was flying high on something and it was pills, not alcohol.

        • Katie (aka kats2) says:

          Or Camille filled her in that Kim has a problem and Alison was just being a bitch? Because I don’t think she could sense anything.

          • I think Alison genuinely Kim-
            at first

          • Crisanna says:

            That was the feeling I got. I feel like Kim’s problem was the elephant in the room the whole season that no one talked about (just talked around like Lisa). It seemed like Kyle had filled everyone in out of her “concern” for her sister. I personally think it was her way of getting Kim back for not “having her back”. Camille knew this and said something to Allison. Allison was being a b to everyone so that was her dig at Kim.

  49. It's Hot In Texas says:

    Now Kyle says that she does not even have a nanny. Maybe she doesn’t… Word about her might have gotten out after the last nanny disappeared in the middle of the night.

    • Kellita says:

      I think she’s backpedaling by messing with semantics. I thought she said it was her housekeeper that disappeared during the night. But often housekeepers do nannying as well. My cousins were raised in BH and had a live-in housekeeper who also watched them.

      • quincyil says:

        My daughter has a nanny who stays at the house from Sun to Friday as my daughter is an anesthesiologist and might have to leave for a medical emergency. The nanny has worked in Manhattan, but she never was friendly with those families. We have become friends with her and her family now. It gives my daughter opportunities to be with more friends and my granddaughter loves the children she gets to meet because of her nanny’s family.

        • Kellita says:

          But now I’m wondering again why the housekeeper left in the middle of the night. Did she say she’s had more than one housekeeper? Attention Housekeepers of the Mauricios: Please come forward with your stories! 😉

  50. Cusi77 says:

    Camille attacked Faye and then… deflected…

    • klmh says:

      Oh, I saw Faye begin the fight.She questioned both Allison and Camille’s friendship and honesty about their lack of a discussion about the NYC incident.

      • klmh says:

        But Camille was defensive after the smile Faye gave her. Sadly enough, that’s what her face looks like! I thought it was really insincere smile as well until I looked at her pictures from 15 years ago.

      • Cusi77 says:

        Faye talked after Camille said she saw her naked in Playboy.

        • klmh says:

          And then she said she looked good. Camille on first impression, when you check her face, definitely felt Faye had a fake smile and that’s the way I read it too!
          I agree Camille’s remark was bad though. Its just that she didn’t call Camille or Allison liars, as Faye called them. When was the gauntlet dropped? There are too many choices, aren’t there!

          The one thing Im happy about is that Faye wasn’t one of the housewives. I could not watch her.

  51. Kellita says:

    Dang! We should have had a drink every time Allison said, “Know that.”

  52. Adgirl says:

    After watching Tamra in the OC preview I think I can safely skip the entire season just like I skipped NJ.

    • Cusi77 says:

      I have never watched OC but just for the fun to be here I will watch this season! I watched Atlanta to laugh the following day with Lynn’s Blog! Lynn’s blog was funnier than the whole hour of laud women!

      C’mon Adgirl… your comments will be a loss for me!

  53. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    Does Kyle have a nanny?
    She has a housekeeper “Live in”?

    • Cusi77 says:

      Taylor was Camille’s “source of information in the past weeks…” Doble faced Taylor

    • Brigid A. says:

      I think Kyle told Kim her “housekeeper” left in the middle of the night. Kyle was fretting because the bike ride fundraiser in Napa was coming up and the housekeeper had some nerve to leave like that.

      The lost footage dinner didn’t offer much that’s new. We now know that Taylor was “a source of information” for Camille over the prior few weeks. And Taylor clearly wants the dinner to end only to shut Kim up.

      Why did Faye get talking head interviews? She’s Kim’s replacement next season maybe?

      And Kyle is just looking worse all the time. It was Faye who had Camille’s porn pics on her phone, not Kyle. Why did Kyle lie during the reunion? Also, anyone notice how obsessed Kyle was gazing at Camille’s pics? She couldn’t get enough, even pushing Lisa away until she was ready to share. I can’t stand to watch her anymore, her mannerisms are so annoying. The head roll, hands flapping all over. That lower jaw thrust she does is the worst. Ugh.

      • Kellita says:

        That creeped me out a bit. If I came upon naked spread-eagled pics of an acquaintance, I don’t think I’d want to look at them. Ewww.

        • error404 says:

          Yes! I’ve never looked at any of the Camille photos, and I don’t know her. If someone showed me a naked picture of someone I knew, I turn away as a gut reaction. These women were all glued to that phone! Fighting each other to get more, and longer looks. It’s so obvious to me from that limo ride that they all hate Camille. They were all so gleeful that they’d found dirt on the pompous windbag.

          They think they’re all so aspirational, but I wouldn’t want to live in that den of shallow vipers for all the tea in China. So obsessed with keeping up with the Kardashions and so happy when a rival falls. Sick.

  54. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    I don’t like Alison at all, some of the stuff she said was just vile, but I love that she didn’t back down to Kyle.

    Love what Adrienne said about Taylor having the same conviction for her marriage.

    I now have no doubt that Kyle stuck her nose into what Bravo was filming with Camille in Hawaii. Perhaps made it business and asked many questions and it was twisted from there by Camille. Such a stupid little fight.

    • klmh says:

      She comes off as a drama queen, and has a demanding attitude, doesn’t she. I could see how someone could read more into her conversation though than she might mean. I sure would.

  55. lillybee says:

    I think the only woman on this show that I can tolerate is Kim.

  56. HD says:

    Good morning, Everyone.

    I wonder why Kyle lied on the reunion about who showed the pictures?

    • vilzvet says:

      I think it was simply to protect her buddy Faye. But it backfired on her big-time because of the new footage, hahah!

  57. HD says:

    Upthread Kellita mentioned Faye and her look. Faye is a woman that is trying to run from herself.

    Scroll down to the third post and see Faye and Nicole pic together. I think that will explain why she looks the way she looks now.

    • Kellita says:

      Oh, wow. Thank you for finding this! Is she black or biracial, and trying to hide that? How sad! Her face now almost looks, imho, like its been reconstructed.

      • Kellita says:

        It brings to mind sad Michael Jackson’s surgeries.

      • HD says:

        It appears to me that she is trying to pass something that used to be highly common in the African American community. She could be biracial or not. Passing is common for those that are biracial but because Black people come in all skin tones she could have two Black parents but still be born fairly light or whatnot.

        Her face does look completely reconstructed but in looking at her (the way she looks now) I can see her ethnic features no matter how she may have tried to disguse them.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      Aren’t they all friends with Latoya (Lisa, Faye and Kyle)? they are twitter friends.

      If you google ‘is faye resnick” you will see this question about her ethnicity has been asked a lot.

      I know she is the interior designer for Kyle’s house so went to her website and checked out her work.


      (Warning her entire website has music, so mute before you check it out if you’re at work).

      While I don’t like Faye, I do like some of her interior design work (some parts of Kyle’s decor I liked)

      Other celebrity clients include (Paris, Nicky, the guy from Entourage that Nicky dated and Nick Lachey). Based on twitter she is also working on Kyle’s new house.

  58. error404 says:

    that whole dinner reminds me of the rumble for west side story. It’s obvious to me that both Kyle and Camille planned on resuming their NY fight, and both brought wingmen to do the fighting for them. Disgusting.

    Once again, Kim’s talking heads were the best part. Why did Kyle so readily jump into the frey if she was sincerely worried about a set up? She was worried Camille was going to attack her, so she nagged and nagged the crazy medium for a reading? And if Kyle is such a peace loving hippie chick, why did Kim think she was going to fly across the table and lunge at Allison? I think we’ve all seen enough of Kyle not to buy her “I’m just a nice girl pulled into the madness against my will” routine.

    And why was Kyle so mad that Kim started a 2nd sub fight that took the focus away from Kyle raging at Camille like a lunatic? Once again, her reaction toward her sister was way OTT. I could see pissed, but so pissed you had to banish her to another car and then refuse all her calls? Did you see her facial expressions etc.. whenever Kim called?

    I have siblings, but when people post here “Oh I have a sister, and we fight like that all the time. It’s just what sisters do.” I just feel sad. Life is short and hard, your siblings will be the only people you share the entire journey with, and this is how you choose to act? Sorry, JMHO but that just makes me sad.

    • firepainter says:

      Me Too.

    • Kellita says:

      I’d go so far as calling her emotionally abusive to her sister. But then, that’s what she grew up seeing. I’d recommend some deep therapy for Kyle. And by therapy, I don’t mean a fake psychic who requires Mom Hair to do a reading.

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      Error – I totally agree!

    • Brigid A. says:

      Rumble from West Side Story! LOL! Well said. Kyle and Camille were clearly eager to re-start the NY fight. More and more, Kyle is morphing into Teresa Giudice, or any of the gals on Jersey Shore. If I were Camille, I’d be flanked by my “security detail” too at any dinner with Kyle. There’s a reason Kim was worried Kyle would fly across the table. Recall the limo scene after Taylor’s b-day party… Kim holding up her hand, telling Kyle to stay away. Very interesting.

      With all the scrutiny over Kim’s drinking that night and every other occasion, once again she remained quiet, even covering her face at one point. Gee, I wonder if anyone was monitoring hothead Kyle’s drinks before or throughout that night….you know, maybe because she “drinks all god-damn day”? Just maybe her rage gets fueled by alchohol? The only time Kim got engaged and raised her voice was in response to Taylor screaming at her before Taylor abruptly ended the dinner.

      The post-dinner limo scenes were stomach-turning, all those adult women ogling Camille’s naked photos. Kim was fortunate that Kyle dismissed her like a bad child and sent her home alone.

  59. AZ Girl says:

    “Dinner from Hell” episode was embarrassing for me. Crazy Allison is from Phoenix. What the hell was she wearing? Everyone looked great and Allison looked like she was heading on a trail ride up Phoenix Mountain Preserves. Then her drinking. Very “highschool” The first one done and passed out wins. She is a nut job and we have a lot of the here. Allison, please move to LA. Better yet, hook up with Josh Flagg and have him find you a home on MDL. That would be quite an episode. Call Bravo NOW. Save us from any more of your crazed antics.

    I notice Kim was drinking soda last night. I don’t think Kim was under the influence of any drugs. Her “head shots” were really funny.

    Honestly the mob mentality on Kim at the finale really escapes me. Kim has done nothing to Kyle or Taylor. Kyle needs therapy and Kim should move as far away from her sister as she can.

    • AZ Girl says:

      @Quincy-no offense on the “trail ride” outfit comment. It was a “sit down” dinner. People here in AZ tend to dress too casual for everything. Personally Allison was dressed like Howdy Doody.

      • kitkat says:

        Totally agree! That bothered me during the first viewing of the dinner party…that ratty sweater stood out like a sore thumb! And did you catch Lisa’s comment last night? “I wanted to buy her a new sweater”! LMAO!

  60. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    I’m waiting for the recap!!!!

  61. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO, saying anyone can read these ladies’ plastic faces makes me laugh! Some of them are so stretched and immobilized that smiles look like grimaces to me! You have to look at their hairlines to see if they are trying to look surprised or angry.

    As for Allison’s shabby appearance – didn’t her great pal Camille tell her the dress code was fancy cocktail with full battle makeup? Or better still – why didn’t her ghosty friends tell her? Too bad she refused to do a response – that would have been fun!

    • Katie (aka kats2) says:

      If you watch these shows enough you start to get use to how crazy they look. Until you see them standing next to someone who hasn’t had any work done or you compare them to a picture from their past.

      They are very freaking looking. It’s not normal.

      • Katie (aka kats2) says:


        • quincyil says:

          Sometimes, I think it would be nice not to have wrinkles, but you have to put those fillers in every few months so it seems that once you start, it’s a life long committment. If I take my husband’s glasses away and hide them, he won’t be able to see the wrinkles on my face. It might be a good solution to my problem. rotfl…

    • skogsstig says:

      Windy City’s comment, “Some of them are so stretched and immobilized that smiles look like grimaces to me!” about the HW plastic faces is right on the money. 😉 And why is it that some of them seem to think that squaring off your mouth and showing ALL of your (veneered) teeth, upper and lower, constitutes a mile? Notice how those “smiles” don’t ever reach the eyes?
      When dogs show their teeth that way, it’s a threat….

      Taylor “smiles” like that. Kelly KB. And check out Jill at the Fashion Week’s Betsey Johnson show:

      Side note: Is that her squeeze-wear used as a camisole?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Side note response: Jill should not wear camisoles as they are definately losing the gravity battle with her boobs!

  62. Olivia says:

    I have made the decision that no matter how detestable Jill Zarin may be, Kyle Richards IS THE WORST “HOUSEWIFE” EVER!

    She is one nasty piece of work and it shows in her interactions with Kim, her own sister. Outing her as an alcoholic, whispering that she was “drinking” at a party, revealing Kim’s “failure” at dating, implying that Kim is such a “trial” to deal with that their own mother worried about her right up to her death, are things best left unsaid for a national audience to swallow and digest. And for what reason? To make herself look like a put upon martyr whose life is interrupted in having to deal with Kim? It is loathesome.

    For Lisa to sit there and insist on Kyle’s “good qualities” is beyond comprehension. Those good qualities are elusive from what I have seen. A social climbing wannabe who would subject her own sister to the mistreatement of her “friends” is not someone I would consider possessing qualities that demand respect.

    Kim is the injured party in this debacle and my guess is that she never expected her own sister to make such a fool of her as she did. As superficial as Camille may be, she is not as egregious as Kyle Richards by a long shot.

    As far as I am concerned, Kyle ranks as Numero Uno in the most hated department and that includes Danielle, Teresa, Vicki, and the Salahi’s. They may hover near the top of the totem pole, but Kyle wins this one hands down. Using a vulnerable and damaged human being as your soccer ball just for fun is about as low as one can get in seeking the fame that eludes this otherwise talentless, self absorbed monster.

    I’d much rather take my chances with a snake in a basket than to ever consider Kyle Richards “having my back”.

  63. dreemz says:

    Thanks, Olivia. You’ve said everything I’ve been trying to say about Kyle , I just can’t put it into words as well as you. I saw right through her from the beginning in NewYork at the restaurant when she was screaming at Camille “YOU NEED THERAPY!”, as though by mere declaration of Kyle Richards it is so, then it must be a fact. Not unlike her treatment of her own sister, Kim, throughout the entire season. She is a very loose cannon with her words and can be dangerous to those around her. She runs around making uneducated diagnoses, “YOU NEED THERAPY!”, “YOU’RE AN ALCOHOLIC!”, and whether it is a truth or not, the words are still hanging in the air…they can’t be taken back! The BH reunion is a good example of what happened after she shot the alkie arrow at Kim…poor Kim was everyones target with their “issues to be addressed” “state of mind at that table” “sparkling water” comments!

    Kyle Richards , you are very transparent and there is nothing endearing about you. You are hateful and it will come back to haunt you.

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