I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny Ever After Feb 28, 2011
Bethenny Ever After premiered last night and I’ll be interested to see how the ratings come in, after last season as Bravo’s highest rated debut ever on the network, I’m hoping to see another record breaking premier.
Before the show aired, this interview was posted on TWOP:
Tonight marks the second season premiere of Bethenny Frankel’s (now better-named) spinoffBethenny Ever After, so to promote the big event Bethenny participated in a media call to address baby Bryn, the Real Housewives marriage curse, why she decided to come back for Season 2 and, of course, Jill Zarin. Read on for highlights after the break.
What was behind your decision to keep doing the show? One would imagine it gets increasingly more difficult to have a camera crew following you around your home as you add a family and more people to your immediate lives.
Bethenny: Well, it gets more difficult and, without getting into the details of my relationship with Bravo, I have a commitment. It’s not like you get to be like, I want to do one season and then, you’ve spent all this money on advertising and crew and all of that and we’re done.
So the show does really well and Bravo’s really happy with it and, you know, they’ve been really great. And there are many things I do love about it. I think it’s a great message for women. I have developed a strong relationship with my fans and like I said, I feel a responsibility in certain ways to be open about my life. [But] will I be doing this forever? No.
You’ve mentioned how you feel the obligation to allow the cameras to film your natural daily life. But is there anything that you and Jason have drawn the line at?
Bethenny: You know, it’s not that I want them to be in here every time I go to the bathroom. It’s that if he and I in general have had the same argument six times over about marriage or money or life or in-laws or something, at some point I want to let the cameras catch that because I just hate when you watch these shows and someone’s, like, broken up with their boyfriend and you see them laying there in full makeup pretending that they’re sad. I just want it to be real and if we’re going to do this at all and we’re going to portray our relationship I want people to get the whole picture.
As you know, a lot of Real Housewives marriages have broken up and you’ve seen it on the show. Was there at all a concern over kind of that Housewives curse?
Bethenny: I mean listen, the Housewives could ruin a lot of things. I’m very happy that I’m not on theHousewives anymore because it’s just a whole different place. But my show, I’m an executive producer. I’m involved in decisions — nothing gets shot if I don’t know it’s getting shot. And if Jason and I became unhappy as a result of the show or there were problems we wouldn’t do it. The least of our problems are my show. It’s just normal things that are happening that don’t have to do with the show. It’s just us being so different and in-laws and money and the more busy I get and normal life, those are the only problems that we have that everybody in the country has. We don’t have problems because we’re shooting my show. That doesn’t create problems.
Jason was on a season of Real Housewives of New York. Were there problems then?
Bethenny: My boyfriend first season did not want to be on the show, did not think it was a good idea, had no interest in it. Jason and I could never have stayed on the Housewives together. He’s like ‘I don’t like these women. I don’t like what this represents. It’s nonsense and it’s just catty and it’s’ — you know, he hated it. And he wasn’t really on very much as you could see. He was embarrassed. He didn’t want to be part of that. So if somebody has a partner or a spouse that doesn’t want that life it’s all encompassing and it can end up being very petty and minutia and that’s not going to be easy.
Were there any moments shooting this season where you were thinking, I wish the cameras weren’t here? Like when Bryn’s changing or crying?
Bethenny: No, because then it wouldn’t be real and it wouldn’t be a good show. No, not at all. Especially with her, no, she’s just a nice, easy kid. But no, it’s just been great. I don’t regret anything because could you imagine if I just kept out everything that was embarrassing or my breakdown on my birthday or me uncomfortable with Jason’s parents or whatever, then it’d be a terrible show.
As far as your relationships with the other Housewives, has Jill Zarin met Bryn?
Bethenny: No, Jill has not met Bryn, no. That’s not even a hard one, that’s an easy one.
No relationship there at all with Jill?
Bethenny: No, no, no.
I like the “No, no, no”, each “no” should hurt Jill just the way Jill hurt Bethenny with her hateful behavior last season. I don’t think Bethenny was purposely trying to hurt Jill, I think it goes back to the decision that Bethenny made and announced immediately after her baby was born. She doesn’t want the negative, toxic people around her baby, besides Jason doesn’t like Jill..so there!
Bethenny Ever After –
First of all, I really love the new name of the show! Hated the name “Bethenny Getting Married?” Particularly the stupid question mark. I mean was there ever a question about her getting married? Moving on…
I’m not sure this was the best episode to premier with, I think the idea was to help us all get to know Jason Hoppy a little better, a great idea because we all feel like we know Bethenny so well after 4+ years on television but we knew little about Jason. The conversations got pretty heavy and serious while spending time with little Bryn’s Grandparents. Before this episode even aired Bethenny was being criticized for the dinner conversation with the Grandparents.
In the short time we’ve known Jason and his folks, fans have come to love them and no one wants to see conflict between Bethenny and her in law’s. The conversation was an important one to have but uncomfortable and potentially painful for Jason’s parents.
Lets start at the beginning, Jason and Bethenny stroll through the city with baby Bryn in her stroller and their dog, Cookie on her leash. The discussion turns to serious issues of another baby, work and even Bethenny’s birthday.
Bethenny asked Jason to help her with a distribution problem with her “Product”. I noticed she never mentioned “Skinnygirl Margarita” on screen (she did last season). I was a bit surprised to hear Bethenny involve Jason in her career issues. We know that Jason has a job and we know that Bethenny has a staff, why would Jason get involved? I think it’s great that Bethenny wants to include Jason and sees her business as “their” business, but is Jason ready to join Bethenny’s team?
The couple have a morbid but funny discussion about what would happen if each of them died, Bethenny insists that Jason wouldn’t get a dime of her money if he hooked up with some 20-year old blonde bimbo after her untimely passing. She would prefer he just wore black and remained in mourning for several years. Bethenny insists that she would just throw herself into her work if anything would happen to Jason.
The long car ride out to Jason’s parents house in Pennsylvania was relatable to anyone who has struggled to get on the road with constant issues, stops to be made and of course the dreaded dog poop on the car’s floor mat. After five hours of what should have been a two hour trip, the Hoppy’s arrive in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Jason’s mom, Carol warns Bethenny that all of their friends have been alerted to the arrival of the Skinnygirl to their small town, I‘m sure they edited out the part where they talk about all the television cameras that will be following them around.
Jason’s friend Brian arrives wearing an “I Love Hot Mom’s” t-shirt. I thought these people were warned that they were going to be on TV? Brian explains that he drives 120 miles to get his hair cut and colored, Bethenny poses the question we all want to ask Brian, “You drive all that way and this is what you come back with?”
The couples celebrate Carol’s birthday at a nice restaurant where all the other guests point and stare. I would guess the initial staring was more due to all of the cameras and equipment than simply Bethenny being present in the restaurant. I’m sure that without the cameras she would have drew some attention anyway, but they made it seem as though people were simply staring at Bethenny. I’m sure many were just wondering why cameras were following this group as they dined in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Dinner discussion turns awkward as they discuss how often Grandma and Grandpa Hoppy will see their granddaughter. This conversation isn’t resolved in the restaurant and continues at dinner the next night at the Hoppy home.
Bethenny already took a lot of criticism for these scenes. She seems to be wanting to set boundaries and guidelines for visiting the Grandparents. This is Bethenny, this is who she is, she doesn’t “wing it” she doesn’t let the chips fall where they may. Bethenny plans everything and doesn’t like surprises. Her life is organized and she’s trying to control this part of her life as well. Right or wrong, this is who Bethenny is.
I don’t think her goal was to keep her baby away from the Hoppy’s, as she said she wants to enjoy her visits to Jason’s hometown and not feel like she’s forced to go there making it into something that they dread doing. Holidays are a challenge for many families and in fact, Bethenny doesn’t realize that in many ways, having only one set of Grandparents to contend with can be a blessing.
I’m would be surprised if Jason’s parents want to be on camera too much after viewing this episode, unless Jason’s dad was thrilled to hear Bethenny reveal just how cheap he is, she noted that the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree with Jason being cheap as well.
Jason’s concerns about Bethenny saying too much and outlining rules are valid, yet he told his parents that Bethenny was negotiating moving to California in exchange for having another baby. I’m sure that didn’t concern his folks too much.
Did I hear that correctly? Did Bethenny really offer to have another baby if Jason would agree to move to Los Angeles? I think Bethenny is open to having another child and I think we’ll hear any day now that she’s pregnant again regardless of where they are living. For Bethenny’s career, she could easily live on either coast but for everyone else involved in this decision, it isn’t nearly as cut and dry.
Jason’s parents are clearly concerned, the difference between their granddaughter and only son living 2 hours by car or 6 hours by plane is astronomical. Bryn needs to know her Grandparents and the Hoppy’s are very involved Grandparents. But what about Jason’s job? We don’t have a lot of details about Jason’s job and we don’t know if he could continue in his present position if they made a move to California.
I wonder if Bethenny thought about her longtime faithful assistant Julie. Is Julie prepared to move her entire life to the other side of the country? We know as of now, the Hoppy’s remain in New York.
The series of conversations with the grandparents could have waited until later in the season because I think we all saw the show as light and funny and all Bethenny all the time. Both Jason and Bethenny provided talking head interviews but we didn’t really hear too much from Jason’s parents.
While Bethenny is taking the heat for drawing out guidelines for Grandparent visits, we did hear Grandma Carol make mention a few times of pretty unreasonable expectations. I know she was kidding about the “every week” comment but she did say it more than once. We also heard her trying to plan out every upcoming holiday and I completely understand Bethenny wanting to have certain holidays to celebrate with her little family alone.
In the end Carol reasonably said, “do what is best for you” and I have no doubt that is exactly what Bethenny will do but I’m sure it will include frequent trips to visit the Grandparents.
Bethenny was a bit rough on the residents of Hazelton Pennsylvania pointing out that the patrons of a small diner maybe had one full mouth full of teeth between them all, that was exaggerating a bit, her point could have been stated a bit more subtly.
Jason and Bethenny visited a low down dirty bar while in Jason’s hometown, a bar that he apparently frequented in his youth, many of Jason’s childhood friends joined the couple as Bethenny gave viewers the fifty cent tour. The vinyl chairs, the sunk in bar and lack of high end brands of liquor to choose from were highlighted. Bethenny was in shock as the bartender asked for only $5 for two drinks. I have to agree that I’ve never seen cocktails being poured in any bar at that price, $5 is usually the tip for two drinks. Admittedly bars in New York tend to charge for one drink what an entire bottle would cost in a liquor store. Many things to into the price of a cocktail, not the least of which is the rent on the space and the atmosphere. That explains the $5 price tag for two drinks.
Our hero’s seemed to enjoy their evening away from Bryn, out with Jason’s friends who are colorful, to say the least. The conversation turned to Jason’s “roots” which were clearly in this town of his friends and when Bethenny noted she had no “roots”, Jason’s friend kindly offered to share Hazelton’s friendly hometown “roots” with Bethenny. Maybe it was the cheap liquor or pure exhaustion but Bethenny got emotional and teared up a bit at this offer.
I don’t think it is too much of a stretch to say that Jason and Bethenny’s trip to Hazelton was a success and frequent trips there wouldn’t be too tough to take. It is more a matter of finding the time and being able to leave their lives for a weekend to make the trip. Who wouldn’t be thrilled for their child to feel all that adoration and love? I’m sure the grandparents would baby-sit and let Jason and Bethenny have some time to be newlyweds as well. It’s all about balance.
As the family pack up the car to leave the Hoppy’s and return to New York City, Jason’s father was a bit emotional and they almost left without Bethenny’s beloved Cookie. Do you suppose the dog bolting out of the house and jumping quickly into the car was supposed to be symbolic of Bethenny’s feelings about leaving her in-law’s house?
The episode ended with Bethenny talking with her therapist. Last season her talks in therapy were sprinkled throughout the episode, I think this season we’re going to see one talk at the end summarizing what we just watched Bethenny experience.
Bethenny revealed what she was told, as a young baby her mother would drop Bethenny off at “some woman’s” house and leave her there for weeks at a time. Bethenny feels like she was unwanted as a child. She has no roots, no where she can call her childhood home.
I really like this therapist, he calls her out and doesn’t let her wallow in misery. Bethenny has a lot of amazing blessings in her life and while I understand seeing a therapist to talk things through, this guy makes her cut to the chase and get to the heart of things.
I don’t think that this therapist is her “Real” therapist, assuming she has a real therapist. He is there so that we can hear Bethenny talk about her thoughts and feelings, it is all being filmed so it is obviously not meant to help Bethenny but to allow viewers even more into her life.
At the end of the episode, Bravo treated us to previews of the rest of the season going forward and I’m happy to report that while we do see some drama, it looks like it is going to be a fun season including Bethenny’s birthday party attended by Ramona Singer and Alex McCord and behind the scenes as Bethenny prepares for and appears on Skating With The Stars.
It will be interesting after watching Bethenny skate on the competition show to see what went on in her life as she prepared and to hear what she really thinks of Johnny Weir’s comments.
Bravo advertises that we should check BravoTV.com for Bethenny’s blog, yet there is no blog by Bethenny. We do hear from her wedding planner Shawn Rabideau who compares his life to Bethenny’s life. He will apparently be appearing later in the season. You can skip his blog this week, it is pretty dull to be honest. With plenty of time for Bethenny to have prepared a blog for her premier, I’m hoping it will appear soon.
Bethenny did mail out a newsletter via email to those who’ve signed up to receive it, here is that Newsletter:
I’m writing to you as I sit in my Miami hotel room, watching my beautiful baby Bryn in her crib. I forcefully decided to take a “mommy and me” week at probably the most inconvenient time ever: the week right before my show launches, when I’m supposed to be doing nothing but promoting my show.
Instead, I’m buying “swimeez” for Bryn, taking walks on the beach, doing “batheez” and having a “no boys allowed” girls’ week in the sun. This was the best idea of my life and it will definitely become an annual tradition.
I’m so excited for my show’s premiere and for all the other incredible things to come, but nothing compares to all the new gifts that motherhood and marriage bring every day. If all I do is work and run nonstop, I’ll be missing the beauty of being in the moment. As someone once said to me, “If you’re not having fun then what’s the point?” I’m just so used to being a survivor and fighting to get somewhere that it took me a moment to realize that maybe I’m here. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. We take on too much. Often “no” is the most powerful word. Ironically, my next book is called “A Place of Yes,” but saying “no” to others can sometimes mean saying “yes” to yourself.
Bryn is crawling and starting to talk, and I don’t want to miss any of it. The past year has been so incredible and you have been part of it. I have experienced success in so many areas of my life. I owe some of that success to you, some to myself, and some to the universe that gave me what I asked for and knew I could have.
I’m really proud of my show. It is my life: the good, the bad, the ugly, but most of all, the truth. Marriage, motherhood, work, and life are all challenging, but they can be so rewarding. Shooting a TV show is exhausting, but I’m so proud of “Bethenny Ever After,” and I always give it to you straight. It doesn’t have to be a guilty pleasure. It can just be a pleasure. So tonight, while watching, laugh, cry and have a Skinnygirl Margarita. I’ll be doing the same thing!
P.S. The Skinnygirl Night Out Tour starts again in March! See when the Skinnygirl Bus will be rolling into a town near you. Here are some upcoming dates:
March 4: Palace Theatre, Stamford, CT
March 5: Hanover Theatre, Worcester, MA
March 11:Cobb Energy Performing Arts Centre, Atlanta, GA
March 12:Hippodrome, Baltimore, MD
Until Next Time…