I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny Ever After

I Hate Jill Zarin    Bethenny Ever After

Bethenny Ever After by:  Anonymous  (today’s blog was written by a friend who wishes to remain nameless! LOL)

First, a huge congratulations to Bethenny on the sale of the Skinnygirl Margarita brand to Beam Global Spirits!

This really highlights the difference between Bethenny – who really is doing all this to earn a living – and the other housewives, who are just playing at creating products. How likely is it that a year from now, Jill Zarin bedding – a vanity project funded by Bobby, no doubt using cheap Chinese labor – will still be on the market? Or Skweez – another cheap rip-off product – made where? Hmm. The website doesn’t say. It also doesn’t say where to buy … the store locator is “coming soon.” Great marketing program, Skweez. Or the pigeon-feather “joory” “created” by KellIcky BenNobody? Or Gretchen Christine Beauté (freaking stupid name) slap-a-label on cheap Chinese crap line of whatever? I think that Bethenny Frankel really saw a niche and jumped in at the right time and kadoooooooz to her! Oh, and double kadooooooz – the new book comes out tomorrow.

OK, now back to our regularly scheduled programming. I’ve been puzzling over why a woman who has control over her own show would let herself look as bad as she has in the first few episodes. Not horrible, but so not good. I personally thought that the dialogue(s) about the frequency of visits to Hazelton were healthy – four adults having a calm discussion. One nit to pick and that is that it should NOT have happened at Carol’s birthday dinner (LOVE YOU CAROL!). But otherwise, a healthy discussion. Better to talk it through than to let resentments fester, allow unrealistic expectations to build up, and so on. Nonetheless, Bethenny has not looked like a very nice person in the first few episodes. So here’s my conclusion – she is real. To borrow a word from KellIdiot, who has no idea what the word actually means, Bethenny is authentic. What you see is what you get. There is no pretense here.

Gotta get this out of my system upfront: AWWWWWWWW! That is one beautiful adorable baby.

I love the private interactions between Bethenny and Jason. I love that they laugh together about themselves and about their crazy life.

So the day starts with Jason giving Bryn her bottle and Bethenny fixing breakfast while Gina is in the bathroom for a half hour. They call to her and she appears, cell phone glued to her ear, claiming it was taking her that long to poop. Right. This leads to a discussion about baptism, which Jason wants. Gina wants to have the child blessed in her church; she has already planned it. With a red carpet. Dancing and manifesting of spirits. She demonstrates the dancing and Jason and Bryn join her – it is hysterical.

Next we have a visit from a baby-proofing expert. My husband insists on talking so I can’t hear what Bethenny is saying. I need a mute button for my husband. One thing this woman points out is that the kid watches everything you do and learns from watching you. So Bethenny shouldn’t climb up on the table. Baloney. My mother never climbed up on tables, but I did. Every kid does. It is just what kids do. It is clever to crawl around on the floor to see the world from the kid’s point of view. But bottom line – how did any of us ever survive childhood? And isn’t part of childhood being taught to recognize danger, rather than just shielding us from it?

Next seen  – purging stuff to keep the house clean. Yes! This is me! I can relate to this. I love to pitch stuff. Hate accumulation. But I sure don’t have all those adorable tiny clothes. If I had clothes that tiny, I would keep them FOREVER. Why does she need someone to help her with this? Wait – need an AWWWWWWW break. The guy sitting on her bed yakking about what to purge – he is holding Bryn and Bryn is sweet and pretty and just AWWWWWW.

The yakking organizer guy cracks up about what Bethenny is donating to the church – all her sleazy lingerie. He says God is going to call Gina and tell her please don’t come back. OK, I guess you had to see it to understand why it is funny.

And here we are at Gina’s church. The church looks like a bail bonds office on the outside but inside it is filled with beautiful decorations and women are dressed in elaborate, colorful costumes with matching headwraps. Bryn is very happy and Bethenny says Bryn is speaking in tongues. They give Bethenny an orange and gold head wrap. Drumming starts. Bethenny has said that Gina fills the refrigerator with Trinidadian foods, so this must be a Trinidadian church. All of a sudden, Jason realizes this is a baptism and Jason is NOT OK with this. He wants Bryn baptized in his church. Gina had no right to do this. Bethenny admits that she had no boundaries and she’s been all “place of yes” about everything, but this is a NO. He tells Gina to stop and ask the priest to give the baby back, which he does, and they leave. Jason supports her decision. Learn and grow from this, Bethenny – some boundaries are good. You have a baby. You have to learn to make rules, you need to learn to set boundaries. Lack of boundaries and rules = raised by wolves. Like – no going to clubs at 14. Boundaries and rules. Kids need them. Kids who have parents who set boundaries and rules know their parents love them and care about them. They may not like the rules, but they know it means their parents care. Now, I just did you more good than that shrink ever did. So call me. We’ll talk. For free, bubbeleh. Julie knows how to reach me…

They get home and talk it out. Jason blames himself – he let them down, he didn’t stand up for them and stop something that made them uncomfortable. This is “Bethenny disease” – beat yourself up for everything. No, Jason. You had no way of knowing and were caught completely off-guard. They talk it out – and again, a healthy adult conversation that leads to Bethenny realizing that it really is important to Jason to have Bryn baptized, with their family and their friends present, with godparents, the whole megilla. Previously, she’d been resisting but now she agrees that they should do this. Learning, growing.

HALLOWEEN. Halloween with an adorable baby and a fun husband. This is Bethenny at her best, although she has to start with a nano-whine about Halloween being a burden on top of everything else. But then in the store, they have fun and try on all sorts of funny costumes. Bethenny wants couture clown, not the cheap stuff. They look hysterical. This is why I love this show. Happy, happy, Hoppy (sorry…couldn’t resist that one). Then they try panda costumes and lots and lots of awwwww. It is a family holiday and they should be a panda family.

Now it is time to have a conversation with Gina about the church thing. It is time to explain why they were uncomfortable. Finally. Setting boundaries. Gina does apologize but continues to say it is a blessing, not a baptism. Gina looks upset; they say all is back to normal. I say – Gina is NOT your family and it is time to say goodbye. Here’s the thing. Everyone (except the baby) remembers the baby nurse fondly, but the truth is that once they are gone, they are out of your lives. Period. And that’s how it should be. A baby nurse is not family. A baby nurse is an employee. And about that money being stolen by the ex-husband? Maybe true, maybe a ploy for sympathy and a few extra bucks? From people who are obviously accumulating some serious wealth fairly quickly…Sorry, Bethenny, you can hate me for saying this, but be careful, girl.

Bethenny talks it over with her therapist. She didn’t like having the baby passed around by strangers and being shaken and having the baby taken from her arms. She felt out of control. She did not feel protected by her mother but she talks about having been 18 and having had chicken pox and I high fever. Her friend’s mother took her to the hospital because her mother didn’t really notice that Bethenny was even sick. OK, but you were 18…did this kind of thing also happen when you were little and helpless? Where were you living at 18? Weren’t you already out of the house most of the time by then?

Now we are at Jason’s church and they talk to the priest. She talks about her religious background – father (Bobby Frankel) was Jewish and her mother converted when she married him, but Bethenny was sent to Catholic school because her stepfather (John Parisella) was Catholic, so she’s a religious mutt. Many people claim that she has rejected her Jewish background, but I doubt that it was an active decision. At a very young age, her religious upbringing changed from Jewish to Catholic, and based on what she has said about how she was raised, it is likely that no adult in her life actively encouraged any religious training or observed religious strictures in the home. My guess is she’s more like a religious blank. Just not part of her life.

More Gina. Jason is making tacos and he asks Gina if she wants hard tacos or soft. She says hard. Nothing should ever be soft. Jason comments that they have an inappropriate baby nurse, which is perfect for them, since everything about them is inappropriate. I am so over Gina. Time for Gina to go.

Julie’s new title is Coordinator of Chaos. Sometimes just saying it makes it so…stop thinking of your life as chaotic and inappropriate – as though you are proud of it. A nice conversation with Julie about the baptism and about godparents….Julie obviously loves Bryn and Bethenny asks Julie to be the godmother. Julie sniffles. So do I. Bethenny says that Bryn looks more like Julie than like Bethenny. Hmm. You know – she kind of does! LOVE JULIE!

Now we have four pandas in the SkinnyGirl VdubBug. How cute is this? Even daBooBoo is in a panda costume. They got o visit Sandy and Cori, Bethenny’s friends, and Sandy and Cori’s two teenagers. Cookie attacks their dog. Not nice, Cookie. Don’t be a bitch. Bethenny mentions moving to LA, but Jason notices how nice it is to live in the suburbs, with a lawn and a tennis court. Bethenny says they are just talking about moving to LA, and says that Jason said he loves the city. Jason admits that in the burbs, everyone is in your business. Not where I live! No one even says hello. Very unfriendly. Maybe that is just my town. They go out to trick-or-treat and they see teenagers flirting and decide that Bryn is going into a convent. Today. Maybe it is me, but I think this is a holiday when they should have gone to Hazelton for the day. Let Carol and Grandpa see Bryn’s first Halloween in those adorable costumes.

But then they go to Hazelton for the baptism, where the priest gets Bethenny’s name wrong. Nice. Uh oh. Here comes another AWWWWWWW moment. That is one adorable, beautiful baby. So I don’t know this religious stuff, but for some reason, they change her into this beautiful white dress after the baptism ceremony. Everyone is happy and they have a wonderful dinner party afterwards. Bethenny is sleeping and Bethenny shushes everyone but of course a second later they are all talking. Jason appreciates that Bethenny did this for him, and that it shows that she puts him and Bryn first. Bethenny says the christening was nice, sweet, and special. NO COMPLAINTS, NO WHINING. Learn, grow! A very nice way to end the show.

Namaste, girl, namaste. If you move to the burbs, move next door to me. No one will bother you here and I can babysit for Bryn. AWWWWWWWW.

Thank you to my anonymous friend for stepping in to blog the show for me, I really appreciate it!  Lynn~

Until Next Time…

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235 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Bethenny Ever After

  1. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Am I first? Finally?

    great blog anonymous whomever you are!

    • neroes says:

      I loved the show last night. I felt Bethenny’s panic when they were passing around her baby. And I remember the fun of Halloween when my children and then grandchildren were young. Hopefully they can spend trick or treating with her grandparents next year. Bryn will be walking by then and more aware of what’s going on.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I liked it too & love how real & mostly upbeat B&J are. I hope Julie & Bubba (the other godparent guy) date & marry.

        & I triple love Gina so she can stay & be the nanny. She fits right in with their humor & love.

        Congrats, B on the book coming out.

        • whocares says:

          Except for the fact that Opie, the godfather appears to be married with children. His wife and children were at the Baptismal ceremony. Are you sure you watched the show?

          Gina is gone. Did you catch Bethenny referring to her as a “wolf”, making fun of her food, and timing how long she was in the bathroom? How about the situation after the “blessing ceremony” and later the “talk” at B & J’s condo?

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          i think the godfather is married already
          am i wrong here but i could swear he was with his wife at that bar when he told Beth that she could have roots with all of them

  2. BlueSky_Forever says:

    Thank you Lynn’s anonymous friend for blogging. Very good job, totally agree with you: re Gina. This should be a warning to Bethenny & Jason to be very careful. It must be hard to get good help bringing up your kids. Glad I didn’t have to worry about that. Taking care of my son when he was a baby were the best years of my life, it was glorious.

    Speaking of the ‘burbs…you can live very privately if you choose to in the NJ suburbs. I hardly ever see or speak to my neighbors. Once you have kids in the schools, it can change, but if they go to private schools, again you have lots of privacy. Compared to LA or NYC, living in the suburbs in NJ is really affordable. Bethenny & Jason could buy a mansion, with pool, tennis courts, etc. even horses….for $1 to $2 million. Maybe Bethenny wants to live somewhere with a warmer climate than suburban NYC.

    We know she would like a talk show. That’s perhaps why she wants to be in LA.

    Bryn is such a darling baby! Makes me smile to watch BEA. Love this show.

    Tonight, “Fabulous Beekman Boys” back on Planet Green, 10 pm eastern!

    • Nancy says:

      I would hate to see Bethenny move to LA for one reason, Jill. I LOVE the fact that she shares a city with her as all of Bethenny’s victory’s are right in Jill’s face. She can’t escape them and I LOVE THAT!
      I came into NY Housewives new season with an open mind. I really did. But after seeing the few clips that are out there AND hearing Jill’s interviews etc…
      Plainly put, Jill hasn’t changed a bit. It’s to the point that I’m actually feeling a tad sorry for her as we can escape the toxicity but Jill has to live with Jill 24/7!
      My God!

      • lovemamaearth says:

        == Plainly put, Jill hasn’t changed a bit. ==

        Isn’t that the truth. We saw it last year when she coo’d up to B all the while just victimizing Alex instead. If she had really changed then, she would have been humbled for a good long while.

    • whocares says:

      It is probably very difficult to find a baby nurse or nanny who doesn’t mind Bethenny referring to her as VA-Gina. That is rare.

      All babies are darling. Bryn is not royalty.

  3. quincyil says:

    I wonder who this anonymous guest blogger was. This person did a fantastic job and should have a real name. So, I think I will name this person. I think Bethenny blogger number two fits and is descriptive of the role this anonymous guest blogger served.

    Dear Bethenny blogger number two,

    I think the Catholic Church where Bryn was babtized was in NYC. I think it was the church Jason attends mass in every Sunday which was mentioned in the great articles that we got from anonymous sources/Bethenny blogger number two this week.

    That Cookie is one mean dog….but very cute.

  4. melodye says:

    Great review!! I sooooo enjoyed this show last night. It is so nice to watch a housewife show where there isn’t cat fighting, sexy bathtub scenes and backstabbing. Bethenny is real and this is truely reality show!! I agree with the writter, time for Gina to go. Loved that B choose Julie to be the godmother. She will make a terrific one.

    • twoile says:

      @M, ITA time 4 Gina 2 leave……not a healthy situation….more of mom substitute figure 4 B imho.

  5. Mimisfbay says:

    Great blog, thanks! This show is just done really well and I love it. The only show that comes close is the Melissa and Joan Rivers show on WE. Both shows have something special and really make you laugh and cry.

    Gina could leave and not be missed. I can’t believe that she is still there except for the fact that B&J had no experience with babies and can’t let go of their security blanket.

    It is great that Bethenny’s skinnygirl drink will be produced more efficiently. Out here BevMo has it for $12.99 but is always sold out. I think the pomegranite drink sounds great.

    • vilzvet says:

      I Gina is gone, this was filmed back in October and there seems to be a reference in Bethenny’s last blog that she “was” a member of the family…hmmm, who knows? I don’t think they need a live-in at this point, that’s for sure. The only thing I could’ve done without was again, the poop, penis and vagina references. I don’t think we go one show without one, but still this far surpasses OC by a mile.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      ITA about Joan & Melissa
      I was quite suprised at just how sweet that show is
      that fight that they had where Joan went back to ny with neiter calling each other for the longest time yet both looking at the phones waiting had me sobbing
      and then when they made up i was crying even more
      if you havent seen it yet rent Joans documentary a piece of work
      its really really good

  6. 2Stupid says:

    http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/the-dish/skinnygirl-adds-some-serious-muscle This makes it sound like Jason had a hand in correcting her distribution issue. I know a lot of what we see is very controlled and manipulated, but I really seem to have a vested interest in seeing Bethenny succeed. She doesn’t seem to take any of what is going on for granted. I laughed when she made the joke re: the baby proofing lady about things moving quickly, saying last year she was in a 1 bedroom apt., still strugggling. She still seems really grounded to me, which is refreshing based on the other garbage Bravo throws at us. I really don’t know if I can stomach Kiki again. Thre is nothing authentic about that woman, no matter how many times she tells us how authentic she is!

    • whocares says:

      NO. Bethenny’s money guy was David Kanbar. He and his family brought Skyy vodka to the market and sold it. Since then, he has also brought many other alcoholic beverages to the market. The entire story line about Jason helping Bethenny with the distribution and business end lacks credibility since Kanbar was the CEO of the LLC and Bethenny was the CCO, or chief creative officer. Her title suggests she is not involved in the business end of the company.

  7. Dani says:

    Great blog thank you Bethenny blogger. I love this show also. It is fun, sweet and you feel that you are a part of the family. Jason is such a great guy and is so good to his girls. I agree with Melodye it is nice to watch a show about a loving and real family instead of the housewife trash.

    I am looking forward to getting the Skinnygirl Margarita here in Arizona.

  8. Terry says:

    I’m sorry, I find the show boring. I watched for two minutes while Bethenny and her assistant or friend or whoever it was went through her sexy underwear. I’m so over looking at Bethenny’s underwear… Also, if the guy works for Bethenny in any form, isn’t that sexual harassment?

    • viki55 says:

      Wow! You got bored after two minutes?? Sounds sort of like A.D.D. I think they have drugs for that;)

    • MK Valle says:

      the guy is her friend…jeez

      • Sha2000 says:

        Terry I’m with you!

        • vilzvet says:

          Sha, you were bored too? I’m going to rewatch it today to see the first attempted baptism scenes, to see if they really trying to put one over on Bethenny. Other than than, I could have done without the showing off of the lingerie and body parts/function jokes. I really do think Bethenny is hell bent on going to California, as she stated in the first episode. I think she wants to bring Bryn up there and she has spent time out west. I can’t see them staying in that condo forever.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            what would they have gained by baptizing a baby
            I mean yes that is what it looked like but they all were saying it was the congregation blessing the baby and they were passing her around like a hot potato so who knows for sure

    • Nancy says:

      At least Bethenny gives her old clothes to charity instead of selling them on

  9. WindyCityWondering says:

    Nice blog Bethenny Blogger.
    The baptisms cracked me up – it looked to me that it was Bethenny not Jason who pulled the plug on the first one and Bethenny was very nice considering the priest kept calling her by the wrong name! Yet again we see Bethenny going way out of her comfort zone for Jason’s family. IMO, Bethenny is compromising way more than Jason. I am not down with him calling her crazy when he has more baggage, won’t come out of his comfort zone or consider redefining “Normal”. I like Jason but he needs to man up!
    And Bryn is a beautiful, happy baby! Awwwww, I just want to cuddle her!

    • quincyil says:

      Bethenny blogger number two…. LOL

    • lovemamaearth says:

      ===– it looked to me that it was Bethenny not Jason who pulled the plug on the first one and Bethenny was very nice considering the priest kept calling her by the wrong name! Yet again we see Bethenny going way out of her comfort zone for Jason’s family. IMO, Bethenny is compromising way more than Jason===

      I agree with all of that except that I think they’re both compromising fairly evenly.

  10. Noreen says:

    Great recap Anon! Thanks! I really liked last night’s show. And I totally agree with the blogger re Gina. Time to say goodbye. I think she is enjoying the camera time. My favorite times are when it is Jason, Bethenny and Bryn and they are laughing and just being a family. Didn’t Julie look beautiful in the Godmother scene. She looks beautiful with her hair pulled back.

    It is nice to have a happy show about Halloween drama and Baptisms instead of the JS S**t.

    Have a happy day everyone.

    • quincyil says:

      I wonder if Gina will have a hard time getting a position after this show. She had a great reputation when Bethenny hired her. Now, she is described as sleeping in and taking over the fridge with exotic foods. I won’t mention that bathroom issues.

      • Noreen says:

        I know. I’m surprised we haven’t heard something about her post filming. She can’t still be with them? I wish they would call her a nanny now. Baby nurse bothers me for some reason.

        • vilzvet says:

          I just don’t think she’s with them anymore, this episode was from 5 months ago. And I just realized Bethenny did not mention Gina in her “typical day” interview for the NY Times.

  11. MAMAZ says:

    Great recap anonymous.
    I also think the Baby Proofing expert was over the top. Kids love to play with pots and pans.
    I agree that it’s time for Gina to go. The near baptism was an outrageous breach of trust. The Catholic Church only recognizes one baptism. If they had allowed Gina’s minister to baptise Brynn they would have missed the opportunity to have her baptised in Jason’s church. I’m sure that would have been hard for Jason and his family.
    As for cahnging into the white dress after the baptism I have never seen it done that way. But many churches use a white biblike garment that they put on the infant afterwards so maybe Jason’s priest just likes the change of clothing better to represent the same thing.

    Hello everyone in Lynnland! I’m not around much anymore. I’ve sworn off all the Housewives shows. They make me feel too bad. But I am watching BEA and Celeb Apprentice.

    • quincyil says:

      We don’t change our infants. They go in white.

      • Sha2000 says:

        It’s like putting on the wedding dress after the ceremony.

        • My daughter was baptized in my Husbands Church
          which is very similar to Roman Catholic. The baby
          is completely bathed (naked) on the Alter.
          they are then put in the white dresses .. In our
          case it would be like dressing before the Bath. 🙂

    • viki55 says:

      Good to see ya Mamaz! I hear you on the housewive’s shows. I used to love OC but now it is all about fighting and nitpicking. I was going to give NY a chance but I don’t have much hope for it either, not with Bethenny gone. I think the shows changed after New Jersey was added. They had a huge hit with the table flip and I think each franchise is trying to top it. Not my cup of tea.

    • 2Stupid says:

      I am glad you said that because I thought that odd too. We are Catholic and the batptism is a VERY big deal in our family. We even hand down christening gowns from many generations. We also always have a big family brunch afterwards including the priest.

      • 2Stupid says:

        replying to mama z about changing into white…..

      • Sha2000 says:

        Our family too. I never saw the dress changed after the fact…maybe because it can get wet & the baby is wearing it? I’m agnostic now, so I have no idea what the new rules of a christening are…but we did see the Giudice baby’s christening last season & she wore the same dress. I guess it depends on family traditions?

        • 2Stupid says:

          The rules must have changed and we don’t know, because my last christening for a niece was 6 mos ago. I guess it doesn’t matter, but I just found it odd. I guess if you weren’t brought up in that faith the traditions may not hold as much value to you. I really wanted to get my little girl a new christening gown, but decided to use my husband’s sisters’ because it made him feel his mom was a part.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Right, it’s nice to say so many babies in the same family wore the same gown.

            • Suzanne Russell says:

              Write or embroidery each child’s name and date – makes it more meaningful. do this on the slip..

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Mamaz! Nice to hear from you!

    • Noreen says:

      Me and my five siblings (I don’t know how Mom did it!) all wore the same gown. I have it now. I still love to take it out and look at it.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


      so happy to see you!

    • Karen says:

      You’re correct, the Catholic Church only recognizes a baptism if done in the form of, “I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”
      If this baptism was “I baptize you in Jesus’ name” it is not considered valid, so the baby would still be able to be baptized at a Catholic church.

  12. butterisafruit says:

    This was a fun blog, Anonymous. I get a big kick out of this new family.
    Lynn and Quincy I also enjoyed the previous postings on the O.C. and
    the RHNY. I’m an Agatha Christie fan and often wanted to go to Morocco
    to visit the sites she put in her stories.
    I wonder if any of them thought of Christie when they were there….OOPS Jill doesn’t read!

  13. FlowerPower says:

    Thanks, Annonyblogger! I totally forgot to set my DVR last night, so I missed this episode (found it’s on again tonight, set to record). I’m really enjoying this show. Even when it’s uncomfortable to watch, it is so much better than what’s on the current Housewife shows.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I don’t know. The underwear scene is the same as being treated to watching Tamara in the tub to me. I can do without both.

      • Adgirl says:

        Yes. Please refrain from showing me the “conception” thong.

      • HD says:

        What underwear scene?

        • Adgirl says:

          In her closet, the purge (donating). She kept pulling lingerie sets out of zip lock baggies and showing them to her male friend. Ick.

          • HD says:

            She wasn’t donating the lingerie was she?

            • quincyil says:

              She may have been donating them, but it was really for the show. She invited a male friend to help. That was ridiculous.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                it was a gay male friend who nws her for a really long time and knows how she likes to horde things
                if he hadnt been there she wouldnt have gotten rid of anything which was the point in making him come to help
                she gave away those things to Ginas church LOL

  14. Kellita says:

    What a fun blog! Thanks, Anonymous!

    I am enjoying BEA and have even gotten my husband to watch it with me. Bethenny just cracks me up. What a good endorphin boost!

    I was puzzled by the whole Gina’s church thing. Gina kept insisting it was a Blessing, yet they were pulling out the water, which indicates a Baptism. I wondered if it was going to be a stealth Baptism, with Gina pulling a fast one on the parents. I would hope not, but it kind of looked that way to me. It was very odd that she never explained to the parents ahead of time what was going to happen. I agree with the other posters that it’s time for the baby nurse to move on.

    • Sha2000 says:

      She may have meant well but she should have cleared it 100% with them first! In fact the priest should have explained it all knowing full well they were not of his congregation, it was his responsibility to do so. I am neither religious nor a Bethenny fan (or not) but I’m a parent and I would have lost it if that was my baby!

    • twoile says:

      @K ITA sure looked like a Baptism was going 2 happen.

  15. HD says:

    I did not watch the show but I am reading a lot about this blessing/baptism.

    Why would they even agree to go in the first place? A blessing for what?

    • quincyil says:

      Gina wanted Bethenny to come to her Baptist Church with a minister/Bishop from Trinidad. After some discussion, Bethenny and Jason decided to go. Supposedly, there was going to be a blessing given to Bryn. Well, the Bishop gave a speech and he said, “Baptism.” Then, someone came and took Bryn out of Bethenny’s arms. They poured water over Bryn’s head and passed her around. One lady was bouncing Bryn up and down. Bethenny and Jason were upset . Bethenny asked Gina to get the baby back. Bethenny took her baby out of the ceremony and to the street. Jason was upset that he hadn’t stopped this as he didn’t want to offend anyone and Bethenny had to step in. Gina claimed that it was not a baptism, it was a blessing. I think bapitism for Gina probably means and adult’s acceptance and might involved going into the water. So this probably was just a blessing in Gina’s view.

      From Bethenny’s perspective, her baby was taken away, the music was loud and her baby was crying for her.

      In India, the toss babies off of the top of building and catch them. Different cultures, different ways.

      I think Bethenny and the baby nurse, Gina, have parted ways now.
      It would be interesting if Gina comes back if there is a baby number two. I don’t think she will.

      • HD says:

        Oh okay so they initially thought it was an invite to church? Okay…I thought they heard blessing upfront which if that was the case I just would not have went period. No one and I do mean no one should ever just grab someone’s child to do ANYTHING with however I am assuming Gina probably set this all up and they were following tradition so they didn’t know anything was wrong. Why even sit there and let someone take your new baby? Okay….I guess it all must have happened pretty fast. If someone took my child they would need prayer! 🙂

        • cusi77 says:

          HD_ You craked me up! Let’s pray for whomever dare to take your child from your arms, girl! ((((HD)))))

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i never heard him say Baptism ill have to rewatch it again
        I heard Gina say it WASNT a Baptism more then once

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      they went to get to know more about Gina and her life

      what are blessings usually for ?

  16. Adgirl says:

    Thanks Anon for the BEA blog.
    I really had not contemplated that Gina might be taking advantage of the Hoppy’s generosity until you mentioned it.

    I too, come from frigid parents. I think the desire to adopt friends and strangers to create an instant family comes from trying to fill in gaps in your own family. Typically you go overboard helping them and they thank you by giving you the finger. It always ends badly.
    I love Bethenny’s assistant Julie, but that was not a good idea making her the Godmother either. What happens when they part ways professionally or Julie marries someone who does not want to be part of the Bethenny chaos?

    Byrn is totally cute. She IS a panda. I think she looks exactly like her grandparents.

  17. Kelly_Has_Big_Shoulders says:

    I love Bethenny!!!! Last nights show was great.
    Yes Gina needs to go.

  18. Adgirl says:

    I caught OC last night … ugh what a downer those hags are.

    Gretchen braying at Slade about his driving, his weight and the bikes. She wants to lease him like a car. I can’t stand Slade but she is not a nice person. Or how about her sneering at her “friend” Alexis about being called a Princess, then sashaying over to her new Mercedes in her tiara. Say what?
    Gretchen complained that women Peggy’s age (42) shouldn’t wear short skirts? So at Gretchen’s 38th birthday party (she claims to be 33) I expect her to donate all of her Daisy Mae shorts and mini skirts and replace them with skorts and crocs.
    I don’t think Gretchen is 33. Why all of the botox and fillers? She looks weird already.

    Gretchen is just nasty.

    • quincyil says:

      “Pay back is a bitch.” That is what Gretchen said when Tamra invited her to ba party. OK. I think Tamra is truthful about Jay and the judge things so also as Jay has won several court cases against Gretchen.

      Slade deserves to live with Gretchen. She deservers Slade. They can fight for the rest of their lives.

      • Adgirl says:

        I totally believe Gretchen was sleeping with Jay. There are huge amounts of photos of them online, including The Trip to Bass Lake during Jeff’s dying days (that Tamra called out on). Jay is hugging, kissing Gretchen on her family’s boat and he is partying with her parents.
        Tamra brought it up because Jay called Tamra at home in the middle of the night and outed Gretchen. It’s not like Tamra hired a PI or something.

        I think Tamra is grossly inappropriate sexually, but I believe her.

        • quincyil says:

          Last weekend, I was doing research on Tamra and I read a boat load of comment from people who claim to know these women. People said that Simon Barney took the kids to sports events and if Tamra did show rarely she would be away on her cellphone and not paying attention to the kids.

          Simon Barney was correct that Tamra dresses like a 20 year old single woman, not a married mother of four.

          I think that Tamra is correct about the Bellino marriage. Alexis is in high heaven now that she is a star and Jilm Bellino is very unhappy. Either Alexis will go back to being obedient or there will be a divorce there.

          • vilzvet says:

            Yeah, I’m getting pretty tired of ALL of the women wearing those spaghetti strap no-support blouses with arms fully exposed. Vicki needs to give that look up pronto especially.

            • Adgirl says:

              I watched an episode of Selling NY ondemand last night. There were 2 women over 60 wearing sleeveless dresses and it was just super unflattering. It didn’t help that they had gallons of make up carefully applied and their hair was “done”.
              Just made me rethink my wardrobe.

              • quincyil says:

                One of the older than sixty women hasn’t had a face lift and that is nice.

                I love that show and Mauricio Umansky is going to be on Selling LA. I think that would be great fun.

                • Adgirl says:

                  Yes the au natural (no facelift) look was rather shocking on Bravo wasn’t it? LOL.

                  I didn’t know Andy allowed unretouched women on his channel.

            • Noreen says:

              I totally agree. She would actually look better if she covered up. If you want to hide your age, hide your skin. I noticed that on Camille Grammer. The skin on her arms and chest is very sun damaged.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              ==Vicki needs to give that look up pronto especially.=


              I saw an old movie recently with Cheryl Ladd who wore regular clothes, little skin showing & it was so nice. No half naked women while the men wore sweaters & coats. Society is kind of wacky.

              And I’m not enjoying the duck lips. Even Flipping-out Jeff has them.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          even if it was true what buisness is it of Trampolines to pass judgement On Gretchen
          they arent related
          they arent friends
          and Trampoline is no one to talk about anyone elses morals
          Her divorce hasnt gone thru and she is having sex in a hot tub with someone on national tv ?
          does she think her kids arent gonna hear about this at some point ?

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      do you serioulsy take what she says to Slade as well serious ?
      As for the comments about Peggy just go back to that older blog and really take a gander at that hootchie outfit
      besides it being to short too see through ect its jut plain tacky
      those thigh high boots went out with Pretty Woman and yes she was playing a hooker LOL

  19. HD says:

    Enjoyable anonymous blog! I like to hear the facts with a little wit and humor thrown in the mix.

  20. Rhetorica says:

    Hi everyone!
    Loved BEA last nite. Found this about the OC housewives:


    * Make sure you scroll down to the sister-in-law comment.

  21. ladyryb says:

    Am I the only one who likes Gina? She is funny and fits in with Bethenny’s “crazy”. The seem to genuinely care for eachother and that is fantastic. Also, B tweeted a month or so ago that she was on her to to visit Gina at her house so looks like they are still connected. B has so few people she trusts and accepts, I’m glad she has a bond, whatever it is, with Gina!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Gina gave Bethenny the wonderful gift of being at ease with Bryn. I like her too.

      • quincyil says:

        The baby is trained well. You can put her down awake in the bed and she will take a nap. A lot of first moms never figure that out. The baby sleeps from 8 to 8 too. That schedule is a blessing to new parents.

        I’m sure that a lot of the pitfalls that new mom’s have were avoided because of Gina’s knowledge base.

    • Noreen says:

      I don’t hate Gina; it just makes me a little uncomfortable. But if B & J are happy, that is all that matters.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I love Gina!! Thanks for saying that. I hope she’s still there as the nanny. They need someone who will put up with the chaos (good word) and one they can trust implicitly.

  22. quincyil says:

    Elsa from Miami was one thousand times more gorgeous that the real housewives of anything when she was young.


    Bravo has 7 photos. My guess is the photos are from the 60s. I think she is probably over 70 now.

    She is on the level of Liz Taylor gorgeous and she knew it. Her daughter, Marisol, is not as beautiful as her mother was.

    • jillz68 says:

      She was a very pretty woman. I realize this is going to sound insensitive (I cannot be the only one wondering!!) but what the heck happened to her? Was she in some sort of horrific accident? Something is just not right with her current facial features.

      • quincyil says:

        I think it it the result of multiple facelifts. She probably has had them for 30 years now. When I was young and working as a nurse’s aid, I remember some models in Chicago coming in for work on their eyes. I remember telling one that she was incredibly beautiful and asking her why she was going to have surgery with our plastic surgeon. She told me that she had to be perfect.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I think she may have had a stroke or has Bell’s Palsy as she slurs her words. That isn’t a result of too many plastic surgeries.

          I ***love*** this lady. She is so over the top.

          • quincyil says:

            She is often drunk on camera and that could account for the slurring.

            Bell’s Palsy patients seem to have one side of the face affected. I have seen a lot of stroke victims and that is often one side of the body too as the stoke will be on one side of the brain or ther other.

            Maybe, she has what Pricilla Presley had done.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              Q- or maybe she’s had a real stroke or has Bell’s Palsy.
              I have a few patients who have had either one and often request deep tissue massage to improve their circulation.

        • quincyil says:

          I did a search of the net on this topic. Apparently Kathy Griffin said it was too much plastic surgery in WWHL the other night.

          A person claiming to go to the same hair salon as Elsa and Marisol claimed that they went to a plastic surgeon in the same building as the salon. You can’t tell if someone is truthful on the net, of course.

      • Kellita says:

        Wow- she was gorgeous. She reminds me a bit of Sophia Loren.

        • quincyil says:

          Yes, she is very beautiful. I look at the other ladies on all of the Housewives shows and no one is anywhere near her level of beauty.

          • HD says:

            She was really pretty. I honestly think she just had too much plastic surgery and what the hell did she do that for?! She was so pretty. Is it just me or does her face look very swollen? Could be the wine I guess. I don’t know.

            • quincyil says:

              It does look swollen. She is not heavy. When she stands up she had a great figure for being 76. I’m sure living in Miami in the 60’s with boats on the ocean and swimming pools, she had a lot of sun.

              • It’s (IMO) the same stuff that they injected into Pricilla’s face.
                If I did that to my face, I would
                start the day with wine, too. With
                Bells Palsy the one side of the face
                droops significantly. Maybe she
                had the filler to even the face out?
                I doubt it, I think she was just
                a vain woman who was afraid
                of losing her meal ticket-her
                face. that’s probably why
                Marisol is such self-sufficient

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      It looks like she had a Sophia Lorren thing going on but she buggered it all up,

  23. cusi77 says:

    Thank You Lynn! Thank you anonymous, what a great blog, with humor and a lot of information! Come back soon!

    I enjoyed very much BEA! Agree: Gina needs to go to have a great life in another place.

    In my Catholic Family tradition there is one gown we pass for generations. The priest and changing names cracked me up! And B comment “I hope he knows who is he baptizing” priceless! The Blessing in Gina’s church… agonizing! I would have done the same Bethenny did! Run to the hills with my baby in my arms!

    Bravo Producers: This kind of programs is what we want to watch as a REALITY TV not soft porn, fake friendships, bitching and bickering, etc. OC, ATL, NJ… I can live without.

    • California35 says:

      Hi Cusi77,

      I agree and I love this show.
      The drama in this show is her own against herself 😛 She is the villain and the heroin 🙂 I can’t wait to watch this episode, and hopefully start watching it in the actual night from next week on.

      • cusi77 says:

        California35_ Congrats new Auntie! Waiting to hear more about this great event!

        • California35 says:

          I posted something below….

          Both sister and baby are doing great! and hopefully they will get home tonight.

  24. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Loretta Halloway

    extended mix- because that’s my mood today:

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i cant believe she is gone and she was so young (64)
      met her twice at a club in east orange NJ
      she was very supportive of gay issues and did a lot to raise money for aids charities ever since Dan Hartman died from it

  25. AZ Girl says:

    According to PerezHilton.com Rachel Zoe is in labor now.

    • quincyil says:

      I hope she’s ok and the baby is ok. I expect a c section as she is around 40.

    • Noreen says:

      I bet Jill Zarin knows if she is or not.

      • quincyil says:

        Jill is on a cruise with her family and a boat filled with fans. I am sure she is busy.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          yes but that would never stop her
          you recall how accurate she was in the birth of bethennys baby

    • Laura says:

      Ahhhhhh! I’ve been wondering when Rachel was going to have her baby. I knew she was due this month…I hope mom and baby are doing great! I was shocked when the news broke that she was actually pregnant….now maybe Rodger can quit his whining…I wonder who Rachel will work and take care of the baby….oh wait, Bethenny does it….we all did it lol…..Good news though, my daughter got me started on The Rachel Zoe Project and I’m anxious to watch again…

    • Nancy says:

      Jill you are falling down of the job. You are going to let PerezHilton let everybody know about Rachel’s baby and not you! Amazing.

  26. California35 says:

    This is a nice recap. I didn’t read the title of it, and I was thinking that you were having fun with it in a diferent way….DUUUH it wasn’t you 😛

    Thanks for the recap who ever wrote it — I missed the show last night agaaain, but it is safe and saved in my DVR. I did see the very begining while I was getting ready this morning, and can’t wait to watcht the rest.

    I got my “Place of Yes” yesterday in the mail – and I got to make time to read it. I am hoping I am back to my regular schedule tomorrow, and then I will be able to read more of the blogs and coments (I have been in and out reading parts), and start the book.

    I am getting my sister from the hospital tonight (we hope), since the doctor showed up last night just before she was going to be released… to tell her she needed to stay another day. My poor sister had two days in the hospital before she finally had the baby on Saturday night. Long process, but quick delivery once the big contractions began. She had feber and headaches the whole time, but specially at the end so she alsmost had a c-section. The baby decided to come out just before my sister was going to be taken to the OR. She pushed twice and the 8.5, 21 inches baby girl came out. She is adorable, Lynn posted a picture of her. She has changed so much in only three days, I will send a new picture when I get a chance. Thanks to all of you who asked. My sister and baby are doing fine, and my sister can’t wait to get home.

    Will check back again soon.

    Lynn, I hope your boy is doing well now.

    • quincyil says:

      I stopped off in our small bookstore in our small mall and bought her book on my way home from work today. I looked for Jill Zarin’s book, but they never carried it. The didn’t think it would sell here, but they would order if for me. I said, “Thankyou, no.”

      • California35 says:

        Yeah, I will try to read at least a couple of pages at night. I read her first one, and it was fun to read…even if it was regarding a diet 😛

        I saw La Jill’s book long ago, before I ever comented on thei blog and probably when the book was new. I saw it on the shelf of TV books. Not interested….

    • cusi77 says:

      California35_ It’s a GIRL! How nice! I can’t wait to meet her in photo!

  27. indy anna says:

    Great blog whats-your-name. Well written. What a light, humerous, witty show BEA was night. No hatefulness, lack of manners, immoral and wickedness going on like the other Haus Fraus, just fun and laughs. (A little tear here and there also.) I spoke with my daughter today as we went over last nights show and laughed our great belly laughs. “Why do I love this woman so much?” I asked. “Because she is us.” replied my daughter. So true.

    • quincyil says:

      The Great Anonymous One/Bethenny blogger number two. Lynn is Bethenny blogger number one.

  28. quincyil says:

    Peggy Tanous, the new girl in OC, has been friends with Alexis Bellino for four years. Alexis invited her to some of the parties. Bravo noticed Peggy and offered her a position. Alexis told Peggy that “The Real Housewives of OC” was for Alexis. Now, their friendship is in tatters as Peggy is a hit with the other wives.

    Is this the second year syndrome that Lynn has mentioned in her blogs several times?


    Alexis was really feeling great about herself in WWHL. Being a star agrees with her.

    • Adgirl says:

      Poor Alexis, I think I’d be a little bugged if my BFF stepped into my gig too.

      I find Alexis to be silly and harmless. I don’t know that she is very bright. Her physical attributes and pliable nature made her the perfect plastic Barbie wife for Sleazy Preaching Dude.

      RH gives her a sense of self worth away from him and her church. I’ll bet Alexis endures a lot of catty remarks by female church goers who are damn tired of their husbands staring at Alexis during the services and demanding that they look and act just like her.

      Alexis hasn’t even figured out the Gretchen is cynically using the simple princess remark to garner screen time by picking a fight with Alexis over it. Duh.

      • Laura says:

        Alexis posted on her blog on Bravotv.com that her and Peggy’s friendship was over. I came here to see if I could find out anything about it but I couldn’t….interesting.

        Alexis is harmless….and a bit clueless most of the time. As much as I adore(d) Gretchen, I totally had that thought too, that she was keeping the Princess thing going just to have something going on..

        • quincyil says:

          That is a Jill Zarin statement: “Our friendship is over.” What did Peggy do to warrant that? Maybe, Bravo is giving her a spin off. Just kidding. Jealousy is not very Christian, Alexis.

          • Laura says:

            I never go to Bravo and read the blogs the women post but for some reason I did the other day and was kinda shocked to find that Alexis wrote about their friendship being over, when we don’t know whats happened b/c it hasn’t aired yet.

            Yeah Jill – meh! Ack! Puke! Gag!!!!!!!!


  29. PJ says:

    I agree Bethenny is building a real brand. JZ & Kelly are not building a real brand. No wonder JZ was so terrible to Bethenny and Kelly was so contemptuous of Bethenny, it was and is obvious that Bethenny is the real deal. They are so jealous of Bethenny’s success they could spit. They counter that by talking about Bethenny not being a real friend to every member of the press that will listen or being completely dismissive of Bethenny. In doing so they only make themselves look ridiculous.

    Gina really needs to go. It’s just inappropriate for her to speak around the baby the way she does. The baby may be too small to understand yet but it’s so unprofessional. Bethenny really does need to understand that boundaries are good things. Children feel loved when their parents set boundaries but more than that children also learn that they can set boundaries with people. Children who live in a home where boundaries are not set may be more susceptible to abuse by people outside the home or outside the family or in the family for that matter. Boundaries are good.

    Gina was way over the top to arrange a baptism for Bryn without her parent’s permission. That was really strange. I don’t get it.

    I also felt last week that there could possibly be some ulterior motives in Gina telling Bethenny about her ex. How is property that you paid around 20k for a few years ago now worth 100k? Maybe I misunderstood that but that’s what I took away from the conversation. Also how does someone do what Gina’s ex did or supposedly did? Of course criminals always think up new ways to cheat people so it’s possible that everything Gina said was true. But if I were Bethenny I would exercise caution.

    Jason’s family, nice as they are, do overstep a bit. Both Bethenny and Jason need those boundaries. It’s wonderful to spend time with the family of your birth but the main concern should always be your own family. Jason and Bethenny both need to take each others feelings into consideration.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      “Gina was way over the top to arrange a baptism for Bryn without her parent’s permission. That was really strange. I don’t get it.”

      according to Gina it wasnt a baptism

  30. Maite says:

    Anonymous great blog!!! Luv it!!! If ever find the MUTE bottom for husbands please please let me know 🙂

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      you have me rofl lol!!! My husband needs a mute button for his bottom desperately, as in for passing wind….lol! What a great slip there, know you meant mute button for shutting him up when you’re watching tv ; D

  31. Noreen says:

    Has anyone seen Kelly’s newest utube video? Decorating with Sheep skin rugs? It is priceless. She is just so proud of herself when she sits in one of her newly transformed dining chairs. Priceless!

  32. Dani says:

    Noreen, the utube video of Kelly decorating with sheep skin rugs is priceless. The woman is truly crazy. I can’t believe that she is still on the show.

    • Noreen says:

      Bravo must have been desperate for drama to leave her on the show. But I do appreciate her decorating advice. Next time I have the Flintstones over for dinner, I’ll make sure to throw animal skins on my dining room chairs.

  33. kbinldo says:

    Regarding Gina’s church, that church did not resemble any Baptist church I have ever walked into in my life, & I’ve walked into quite a few. Perhaps it’s because the congregation is from Trinidad, with its Catholic/African influences.

    Anyway, Baptists (& many other Protestant churches, but not all) do *not* baptize babies or children. You are not baptized until you are old enough to make that decision for yourself. What they were probably doing (at least that’s what it looked like to my Protestant eyes), was a “christening.” Not the same thing as a baptism; just a promise by the parents to raise the child to be Christian. I think Gina should have clued Bethenny & Jason in on what was going to happen, but most definitely the minister (not priest–Baptists don’t have priests) SHOULD HAVE. I would have reacted the same way if someone took my baby out of my arms & started passing her around.

    Glad to see that Jason’s priest allowed them to baptize Brynn, even though Bethenny isn’t Catholic. The locals here refuse to do it unless both parents are Catholics.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Iwas baptized in a catholic church in the 50’s my mom is Protestant/Methodist
      Dont know how they got away with it and LOL if they knew i would wind up athiest perhaps they wouldnt have gone thru all that angst between her family and his

      ps rip Liz Taylor

  34. Laura says:

    I loved this episode, even though there were some terrifying moments with the baby. Watching BEA just makes me happy. From the theme music, which always makes me think of Dumb and Dumber walking down the street side by side for some reason….its just happy, goofy music….I always know I’m going to laugh, appreciate Jason and Bethenny, both separately and together and come away from it all knowing that they really love one another and are trying to be the best parents they know how to be.

    Bethenny broke the cycle and its so great to see her doing as she says, trying to make her husband and his family happy. It proves that she is real and authentic, in my mind anyway….loved it, just loved it….

  35. tweatcyn says:

    A thought re Christening- the dress change was symbolic of a rebirth into the Spirit and purity, much like coming out of the water after dunking during adult baptism is. Also, they may be Lutheren rather than Catholic, with similar traditions but not same. Lots of.German Lutherens in Pennsylvania I hear. Gr8 recap Anon. Agree. Gina must go.

    • kbinldo says:

      Lutherans don’t venerate the Virgin Mary. The name of the church was “Our Lady of Peace.”

  36. California35 says:

    From Bethenny —

    “”I can’t believe it. It is finally here: the launch of my third book, my most emotional literary journey, the “big book” as my publishers describe it. As you may or may not have seen, I burned the first finished version in the barbecue. It had been such a long and arduous process, and “good enough” simply wasn’t. I couldn’t write a book like this without the perspective of being a wife and a mother in addition to being a businessperson.

    From childhood to marriage and motherhood to my career on television and my many failed business ventures, I completely “go there” in this book.

    “A Place of Yes” is dedicated to you, my fans. In fact, here is the dedication of the book:

    “This book is dedicated to you: my passionate, fearless, inappropriate, supportive, caring, hilarious fans. You go for it. You want more. You believe in yourselves and in the fight, and you know that good enough simply isn’t good enough. You have come into my life and allowed me to come into yours. Everything I do is to show you that anything and everything is possible, and we will get there together. Trust this book, love yourself, and allow yourself to live the life you always dreamed of.”

    I wrote this book for you. Over the past few years, you have asked me how I got here. How did I finally find love? How did I manage to have all that I wanted in so many areas at what many may consider to be later in life?

    “A Place of Yes” will take you on the path I took to get here. You don’t have to want what I wanted, which was to have a career and find love. Maybe you want something completely different. Whatever it is, no matter how simple or complicated, this book will help you get whatever you want out of your life while staying completely true to yourself at all times.

    This book is my heart, my soul, my life — because I owe so much of my success to you. I wrote “A Place of Yes” to give back to you what you have given me: inspiration, a path, a plan, guidance and, most importantly, the truth.

    “A Place of Yes” isn’t about always being in a good mood or the power of positive thinking. It is about using these rules one at a time to get you where you need to go. It is a toolbox for your life, containing something different for everyone depending upon where you are in your life not someone else’s.

    This is my single greatest work accomplishment and by far my most challenging. So many times I felt like I was swimming from Cuba to Florida, wanting to swim back and not knowing how I would ever get there. Coming from “a place of yes” got me there and here throughout my life when everyone told me no.

    Read this book, trust this book and allow yourself to have everything you ever dreamed of. “”

  37. justanothermary says:

    I know this probably just me, but I wasn’t able to see for quite some time. Now that I can see, it looks to me as if Bethenny is very very thin. I saw a recent picture of her and it looks as if she could cut glass with her cheek and jaw bones. Her eyes even looked sunken. She as all the earmarks of someone with food issues, no matter how much she claims to be healthy, and look right now is rather alarming. She actually looked Rachel Zoe thin to me.

    • vilzvet says:

      You can see again, Mary?? That is wonderful!! Yes, Bethenny has been pretty thin since she did the Skating show and beyond. I just checked her website and found out she is doing a book signing right by me on April 1st (a really cool bookstore called Book Revue in Huntington, LI), so I may go. I have a feeling it will be an overwhelming number of people going, but I want to continue to try to see HWs in person, so far I am missing B and Ramona and I don’t care to meet Jill, haha.

      • California35 says:

        What do you mean you “may go”? lol please go and share your experience with us 😀

        • HD says:

          Forget Bethanny’s cheekbones, you can see again!!!! YAY!!! I am so happy for you!!! Amen!!!

          Since you mentioned B’s weight, she is very thin. I think it is a combination of her diet, working out and just working too much and not taking care of herself. She burns the candle at both ends way too much.

          • California35 says:

            I keep thinking the same thing. She looks GREAT but very thin. I keep hoping she doesn’t have some obsecion or problem. Since I know she is so busy, I think it is more because she is working too much.

        • LavaLady says:

          I am planning to go to Bethenny’s book signing tomorrow night in Ridgewood, NJ. But the weather looks lousy. Snow expected. If anyone hears via twitter it is cancelled, please post. I will check her website and/or call the bookstore tomorrow before I head out.

          • California35 says:

            I hope the weather is not too bad period, but also hope you are able to go. Please let us know.

            • LavaLady says:

              If she is there, I will be there. I drive in anthing, and it is not too far from my house. I will absolutely report back.

        • vilzvet says:

          Hah, I just realized I was invited via Facebook to a gallery showing that same night, also in Huntington! That is so weird, I never get invites to stuff like that, but this is a high school classmate who is an artist. Maybe I can hit both! I was only hesitating about Bethenny because I think there will be sooooooo many peeps trying to get into this funky cool bookstore and I hate lines. I think I will go to the signing, this will be the closest appearance she will ever do, and I really do want to meet her.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      So glad you can see again Mary, & agree with you about Bethenny being too thin now. She was looking better with a few more pounds on her. Maybe it’s just the strain, being on the ice skating show, taping BEA, writing a book, developing her products, going on the bus tour, being a mom & wife, whew just typing it all wore me out!!

    • LavaLady says:

      Hooray! Mary can see! She’s baaaack!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      MARY CAN SEE!!!

      happy days!

      Hi there! And yes, I agree- Bethenny has some weird food issues.

    • California35 says:

      I am glad you can see 🙂 and glad to read from you.

    • FlowerPower says:

      Sooo happy that you can see again!!!!!!!

    • lillybee says:

      Is this board working yet or is it just me.

    • Adgirl says:

      Hey Mary!!! Waving here!!! I had cataract surgery and was shocked by the little leaves & flowers and details I missed seeing for years. I cried in the hospital parking lot after my bandage was removed.

      So glad to “see” you here!!

      I lit a candle for you at Grace Cathedral a few weeks ago in SF. Afterwards a flock of wild parrots flew overhead squaking and chatting with each other.

      • justanothermary says:

        Thank you all for your kind words. I had the first surgery done and, even though I have a “compromised” immune system, I healed with no problems at all. I’m getting the other eye done on April 6th and cannot wait! I will never take my sight for granted again. Justanothervirg was great, but I love my independence. It’s agony to sit around and know you guys are blogging and there’s no one here to read to me!

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      I am so thrilled for you Mary~you are truly amazing~I think Bethenny is too thin as well. I loved both of her books but I could never just taste & not eat just one of everything . lol
      I am probably a size 10 which the doctors consider obese. I am 5’4″ & 155 lbs.
      That’s fine with me. I think women look better with softer curves.
      As someone once said only dogs like bones. lol

    • Rabble Rouser says:


      What a great thing to read that you vision is restored.

  38. Jill tweeted this:

    Jillzarin: Just back on ship from Private Island. Nothing is better than being with family. “You can have it all but NOT all at the same time.” jill

    These are a couple of the replies:

    (name deleted) : @Jillzarin is jill actually quoting herself. I die LMAO

    (name deleted): @Jillzarin looks like @Bethenny has it all, all at the same time hun.

  39. California35 says:

    Did anyone watch Good morning America? She was there this morning, laste night I read she would and I set my DVR to record it. I will watch it some time maybe tomorrow morning. I am interested to see what she said.

    Also, there was something regarding Chris Brown. He went crazy back stage, I hope B was gone by then…otherwise she got to see what happened.

    • Noreen says:

      I just watched it on the GMA website. She was fabulous as usual.

      • California35 says:

        Cool thanks….I keep falling behind…when I had been waiting or search for her for so long…lol..ok that kind of sound creapy 😛 I am sure you all know what I mean though….

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Wendy Williams mentioned something about Chris Brown backstage at the end of her show today….she’s going to talk about it tomorrow. If I find out what it’s about, will report back. Cali35, are you reading B’s new book? Let us know what you think about it. Thanks!

      • HD says:

        Apparently he got really upset because Robin kept bringing up Rhianna and the incident and he wanted to talk about his album. He went to the dressing room and broke the window in the dressing room, got in a security guards face and walked out of the building stripping his shirt off. He then tweeted that he wished people would leave the past in the past.

        I am honestly over hearing about the incident myself. Let it go! He did his time, he did what the had to do, he messed up, he acknowledged that and its over. Even Rhianna wants to stop talking about it. Apparently in the interview he kept saying he thought he was there to talk about his album so it looks like he might have been set up in a way.

      • LavaLady says:

        They talked about it on The View this morning. Robin Roberts interviewed Chris Brown on GMA about his new album. Of course, she asked about the Rhianna situation. (the restraining order has been released) He was pretty straightforward, just saying he was there to talk about his album, not Rhianna. Robine brought it up in 2/3 different ways. Then, I guess, after the interview was over, there was some kind of altercation, argument, incident, in one of the green rooms. At the time I watched, there was not 100% confirmation that Chris Brown did this, but a window that looks out over Times Square (I think) was shattered, and glass rained down on the sidewalk. It could have been broken by someone in his entourage.

      • California35 says:

        I do plan to read it. I just got it yesterday, but it was too late at night by the time I could read some of it. I will let you know what I think. I can really use some posive/business/career reading right now. I am hoping this will help, and also making it a fun read.

  40. Kashma says:

    A few things:

    1. Why do they have to move to LA for a talk show? There are so many talk shows filmed in NY. She could live in Connecticut, NJ, Upstate NY or LI even. I understand they have their own lives to lead, but Jason obviously is very close to his parents, and I think that should be considered more than it is.

    2. Halloween was on a Sunday last year, so why couldn’t they have gone to his parents on Friday, had a Halloween gathering on Saturday, and then Sunday go to her friends? I understand she wants to have gatherings “just for her Jason and Bryn” but it’s the baby’s first Halloween! I think it would have been nice for them to take part in some way. I think doing the above would have been a nice compromise and everyone would have been happy with the end result.

    3. Why is Gina still there? She doesn’t appear to do anything. She doesn’t even have her own room and neither does the baby. I think she should go, and unless they get digs with another bedroom and bathroom, I think they should have a nanny on call or coming during day when she’s working and it’s needed. She is just coming off a bit with Cedric tendencies and we all saw how that ended.

    I really like Bethenny and I give her credit for putting herself out there’s flaws and all, but man she has had some rough moments, that’s for sure.

    I hope as time goes on she finds a balance with Jason’s family and is more inclusive with them. I know it can be hard. Some people have to juggle two sets of in-laws. Blended families due to divorce have to deal with 3 – 4 sets of extended familes, so she could have it a whole lot rougher.

    As Bryn get’s older and if they add another child to the mix, I am sure Jason and Bethenny will want to take some time to themselves, so why not use the in-laws for that. They get the time they obivously love with their grandchild, and they get time to reconnect?

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Have you seen what Reality Tea is reporting about B upset with how she’s being edited so far on BEA? They said she’s insisted they go back & edit her in a better light, so that future re-runs of BEA will have the first couple of episodes different from what we saw. Weird. Maybe the backlash against her & how she treated the in-laws, Hazleton, etc. made her worry that sales of her books & products will be affected.


      • HD says:

        I would have to watch the old episodes to see if I notice anything different. Bethanny seems like a person that “owns it” as she says so I hope this is not true. It’s out there and it is what it is. She came off that way because that’s the way it was. In recent episodes she seems fine.

      • California35 says:

        I hope this isn’t true, actually based on what we know of her, I don’t think it is.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        ==Sources reveal that Bethenny is upset that some blogs are calling her out on her alleged bad behavior. The Jewish Journal referred to her as being “mean, selfish, and narcissistic.” “”

        I think that came from JZ.

        • Sha2000 says:

          No there’s a regular blogger there that writes on B’s show, I read a couple of pieces today…if I find the link I’ll post it.

          • VAgirl says:

            Her name is Ilana Angel and she blogs for the Jewish Journal of Los Angeles. She can’t stand Bethenny and called her a pig in her latest blog.

            • Sha2000 says:

              Wow! I’ve tried to post that Jewish journal link 55 times & it won’t show! Google bethenny frankel jewish journal and you will see it. She blogs on the show each week and is harst but makes valid points.

              • Adgirl says:

                Yeah the Jewish Journal gal is a Bethenny hater. I wouldn’t mind if she just said so up front.

                • quincyil says:

                  I have been following that blog and she hates Bethenny with a passion.

                  Why would Bethenny care about a pro Jill blog?

                  Bethenny does read Lynn’s blog and so do her assistants. We know that for a fact.

                  I think Bethenny would not reedit.

                  I think this is one of those Jill Zarin hit jobs that comes when Bethenny and Alex get some good press. Bethenny was in the NYT and other news journals so the Jill Zarin people do a hit job.

    • California35 says:


      About the California move –

       I have been wondering if it is for the cost of life more than anything. I know California is not cheap AT ALL, but for what I have seen on TV and read here and there, NY is MUCH more expensive. Not only that, but I am so surprised at how much it cost to buy or rent a small apartment. There is not much room over there. Most live in small apartment type homes, and it is hard to find available places. It seems to me that you get more out of your money in California. Big homes, with many rooms, back yard, garage, etc. In top of that, you have the beach nearby; she won’t have to drive so far for it.

      The thing about the talk show – 

      I have only read that in this blog, so I can’t comment. But if she is thinking to move to California, it might be to get more for her money. She is making a lot right now, but she seems to want to plan ahead. I have also hoped that soon she will slow down her fast life.  As much as she likes NY,  she can have more of what she might want in California.

  41. Bobbi says:

    Am thrilled for Bethenny being able to partner with such a solid company to expand and distribute her SGM. Sounds like a real win for her.

    I find it very interesting that at the same time this news hit, a story hit that Bethenny was “demanding” her #BEA episodes be re-edited to make her look less mean. This is supposedly based on a Rumor-Fix story.

    Not only does that just not ring true since it goes against everything Bethenny stands for and everything she believes about how her show is run, she is an executive producer on #BEA. She said in one interview that if she didn’t like something, it didn’t make it into the show. But, she hasn’t said that to anything because she wants the show to be true.

    Now, doesn’t that story sound as if it came from someone who has some media ties and wants nothing more than to see Bethenny crash and burn? I can think of a couple of possibilities……

    • Nancy says:


      • boston02127 says:

        @Nancy–How is your dog doing?

        • Nancy says:

          Boston, How sweet of you to ask. Thank-you. “Emily” has been my Service dog for 16 yrs now. She is the love of my life but she can no longer hear and her vision is bad so she now sleeps most of the day. I can tell she stills wants to do “her job” and that saddens me. She will live out the rest of her days by my side as a most beloved pet.

      • quincyil says:

        Lol… Bethenny is a producer of her show. I am sure she sees it before it goes on TV.

        • justanothermary says:

          I really think Bethenny didn’t know how bad the backlash would be. She would not be offended by the comments that she made about Jason’s home town, but perhaps the people there were offended. I know that I can call my little town Podunk and refer to all of us as one-tooth wonders and rednecks, but nobody else better do that! If someone from this town married an “outsider” who had the never to cut us down on national tv, they would certainly hear from the local yokels and it would not be nice.

  42. boston02127 says:

    test (can’t sign on)

  43. HD says:

    The blogger touched on this and I watched BEA and I want to understand something…she moved out the house when she was 15 right and lived with the bestfriend in Florida, right?

    Why would she expect her mom to take her to the doctor when she was 18 because she had the chicken pox? I’m confused. Did she at some point move back home? The way I see the picture painted was like she moved out at 15 and that was that.

    • FlowerPower says:

      I finally watched the episode and the way I took what she was saying was that she went to her friend’s mom because she knew she wouldn’t get the response she wanted/needed from her own mother. I thought she was contrasting her own experience with her mother (and not having that sense of her mom being her protector–she had developed a thick skin and took care of herself for most things in her life–at least in her own mind and in how she tells her story) with her reaction to wanting to protect Brynn.

      She was admitting that when she was sick, she wanted that response from someone, but she didn’t turn to her mother for that because she didn’t have that kind of relationship with her.

      • Adgirl says:

        I don’t know whether she moved out when she was 15 or went to boarding school in Florida (when she was 15?) never to return to her mother’s care.
        The first story I heard was she was raised by wolves.

    • Noreen says:

      I’m 46 and my Mom came to live with me 7 years ago. When I was very sick a few years ago there was nothing like having my mom take care of me and bring me tea and toast and touch my foward to check my fever. It was so incredibly comforting when I was in such pain and discomfort.

  44. Adgirl says:

    Bethenny selling SG brand to Fortune is huge. It would be comparable to JZ selling Skweez to Macy’s or her bedding line brand exclusively to BB & Beyond.

    It’s a big deal.

    The next race is if SG thinning underwear brand can out pace Skweez and be sold to a distributor. In the girdle war I think Jill may have the upper hand (insert joke here). Jill’s came out first, she is the perfect customer/ spokes person and she already has contacts in the under panty industry.

    It’s a tight race. Hah.

  45. cusi77 says:

    I promised I would not give ratings to RHOM … but I picked in Marisol’s wedding… let me tell you or this is fake, fake, fake or this French guy Marisol married is more fake than a 3 Dollars bill! I lived in France for several years and his accent in English is not like a French man speaking English but more than Peruvian-French- English. My native language is Spanish, could someone tell me how do you hear Philipe’s accent?

  46. California35 says:

    Testing again

  47. cusi77 says:

    With all due respect but Mama Elsa looks like “Madam Mim” in “Fantasia” Dysney movie… remember?

  48. California35 says:

    Saw BEA –

    Very weird about Gina’s church. Glad B took baby out of there. It was cute how Jason said that he should have done something about it. I just think both of them were kind of taken by surprise.

    Shopping for Halloween custom was so funny. Interesting how both B and J thought about the same thing when the girl went to talk to those boys.

    You guys are right, there are suburbs near NY. Huge houses, with ten is courts and yards.

    Julie was so touched when asked to be the godmother, I would have too 🙂 a family member or a best friend usually take that “honor” or “job” I f you will. It was a good sign that B really does see Julie as family.

    I think B was in and out of her mother’s home growing up. Weather she lives with her or not, she just didn’t go to her when she needed help or care. She wants to make sure to protect her baby and for baby to count on her.

  49. Larke says:

    I don’t care for Gina myself, however, why is it HER responsibility about the details of the blessing at Gina’s church. Yes, of course, she initiated it, but she didn’t force Bethenny and Jason to agree to it. They stated they are open people and thought it would be nice to do with Gina. But, it still stands that Bryn is THEIR child and not Gina’s so THEY should have made sure exactly what was going to happen, talked to the bishop, etc and make sure they were comfortable with it all before even filming. And that’s just the thing- this is a TV show and there had to be several crew members in that tiny church so at some point, I’m sure the crew had to see where they are filming and set up properly so I just find it odd that Bethenny described the scene as the baby being ripped out of her arms and that she just had absolutely no idea what was going on.

    I do believe at some point they were confused about if Bryn was actually being baptized. Obviously, B is not Catholic, but Jason should have known that would not have been recognized as a (Catholic) Baptismal in any way.

    Bethenny is great, but as assertive as a person as she is and as protective as she is over Bryn, I have a hard time believing that Bethenny had no idea what was going to take place. Nobody has to agree, but I don’t buy it. At all. She said in the show that she doesn’t even like people she knows handling the baby so she is super protective and that’s great and we all know why, but then don’t try to act like you are all nilly willy about walking into an unfamiliar religion/church, with a large group of strangers who you know are going to perform some sort of blessing over your infant.

    And even if she didn’t know, I just don’t see how that is Gina’s responsibility. She is not the parent.

    But, I totally agree that Gina needed to go and obviously, she is gone now. I never cared much for her and always thought that she was too comfortable. However, I do think that Bethenny portrayed and maybe some viewers feel like Gina is trying to stick around longer than necessary. But, let’s not forget that Bethenny wants to be able to work like a maniac and go to parties/events because that is the lifestyle that SHE wants. She could have easily chosen to get rid of Gina when it was appropriate, but then she would have to be around more and that would be giving up stuff she enjoys and stop working so hard.

    Yes, of course, she sells liquor so all that nightlife stuff mixes into her job description somewhat, but the fact is that she wants to keep going and going. Bryn’s college and probably first house are already sitting in the bank. So, when B says she has to work for her family- I TOTALLY get what she is saying and at a time like this especially, you probably feel like you can never be too secure, but the truth is they are beyond financially secure. Even beyond B, with other wealthy people who have that mentality that what they have is never enough, they just keep working and working to make more money, but the truth is that after a certain point they are no longer working to provide or support their family. They want it, they crave it, whatever that is- a better, bigger house, newer cars, more vacations, a more flexible schedule, but usually it boils down to more fame, prestige, and/or power! And those people at some point need to realize, that since their family is already financially set, the family would probably benefit a lot more from quality time with their parent/spouse, etc. Especially with Bryn- those moments will be gone way too fast and you can’t get them back.

    I really like Bethenny and I enjoyed last season so much I thought it could not get any better and unfortunately, I was right. I am not enjoying this season as much. She seems way too harsh. And she complains about her in-laws too much. I totally understand wanting your own family time and traditions so no one has to emphasize that, but she finally has an amazing family and it just seems she is not enjoying them as much as she should be. When she complained about not wanting to go to his parents for Halloween, I thought they would have big plans, but they ended up walking suburban sidewalks with teenagers!!! I think Jason’s parents were probably hurt once they saw why they missed out on seeing the cutest Panda family ever! I am not judging or blaming B, quite honestly, that just made me really sad because I don’t think she realizes what she has and in the meantime, Jason, Bryn, and his parents are hurting from it. And for real, she has TWO new people she has to account for, Jason’s TWO parents, that’s it- not even a sibling- boy, she is lucky and that’s just the thing, she makes it sound sooo bad. And she may have had my sympathy a bit on the subject until Jason wanted to take Bryn alone for a few hours and B wouldn’t even let him. That is when, to me, it became clear that this was about B doing what she wanted, when she wanted regardless of anyone else and not about the time commitment when hanging out with his parents.

    Yikes! I know this won’t even get read, but had to put it out there. I know everyone adores B, as I do, but just because I like someone does not mean that I find no fault with their actions or behaviors. She could do no wrong on RHoNY, she was awesome, but she’s a little harder to take now. But, life moves on and things change and I suppose she is doing the best with what she knows how to do.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I read it. Lol

    • California35 says:

      I read it too, and you have good points. I actually agree with some of it, or agree that many people see it the way you do. I am a fan of hers though…and I see more of the qualities. I do see the other stuff, I’m not blind (lol), but she is aware, working on it, learning, and making changes. We all do things others don’t like, we all have some improvement to do. I hope she does well on that, but in the mean time, she keeps building her business and enjoying her family. I am glad I get to see itvall though 🙂

      • HD says:

        A lot of great points.

        You are also correct in saying you can adore someone but that doesn’t mean they are perfect or blameless. I call B on her stuff and I thought I wasn’t gonna be able to stand this show after seeing the first view episodes. This woman seemed to complain and whine about everything in her “fabulous” life. Sigh… Lately she is the B that I remember.

    • Dawn says:

      We always included the grandparents in Holiday celebrations (including Halloween). Do you know who reaped the benefits? The children. Who doesn’t benefit from having multiple people surrounding you with love and adoration?

      Bethenny is only viewing the celebrations through the lens of what she wants – not what will ultimately provide her daughter with the most love and best memories. What a great start in life to have the unconditional love of grandparents. How lucky for Brynn that she is close enough in proximity to her grandparents to be able to have the opportunity to spend physical time with them.

      I understand where Bethenny is coming from but disagree with her decision. She needs to look at the larger picture – what is best for my daughter? Her decision is selfish. I hope that in the future she works to include Jason’s parents in the milestones that are Brynn’s life. Brynn will thank her for it later in life. It will enable Brynn to grow up without some of the same relationship issues/neuroses that Bethenny suffers from.

    • Noreen says:

      I read it too!

  50. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Jason realizes this is a baptism and Jason is NOT OK with this.

    that would be fine except it wasnt a baptism as Gina lter explained they were blessing the baby
    it would have gone so much smoover had she explained that to Jason & Beth beforehand

  51. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    “Bethenny mentions moving to LA, but Jason notices how nice it is to live in the suburbs, with a lawn and a tennis court”

    LOL there are suburbs in la that have lawns and tennis courts and much nicer weather
    its spring here in NJ and we have snow

  52. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Great blog whomever?
    I am not religious & I probably fit in somewhere between not believing but wishing I could. Great show~I think Gina may be taking advantage of situation too. I also realize how hard it is to find someone you can trust to take of your child.
    With the new deal Bethenny has made she can take her time & chill & deal with the fact that she needs to start interviewing people now for the sake of Bryn. She needs more than one or two people she can trust.
    My hubby always has to talk during the show instead of the commercial every time! lol
    I think he does it on purpose. Who me?
    Anyways just colored my hair yesterday Ruby Red! Came out beautiful & Allan loves it. Another new start for me. Haven’t colored it in 6 yrs or so.

  53. MichellefromNY says:

    All I have to say is that church was crazzy wierd. There was a Buddha, and the archbishop was wearing a capelet that had hebrew letters saying “shabbos”, the hebrew word for the jewish sabbath. Like they’re buddhist/baptist/jewish? It might be trinidadian but the whole thing seemed odd. I think anonymous was right, somethings p with gina. But I’m gonna take it a step further and say that I think her whole church was in on this. Then again, this is all conjecture and I’m probably totally wrong, but gina does give me an uneasy vibe. I would not want someone like her as my baby nurse. But that ceremony was very strange.

  54. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning sweet peas~

  55. Frustrated Latina says:

    I completely disagree with this blog about Gina and with the majority of the comments on here. I am a Puerto Rican Caribbean woman and am terribly offended by most of these ignorant and ill-cultured comments. Trinidadian bapitsts are Christians and they were doing a spiritual blessing that Brynn be blessed by God through Christ. Sometimes the word baptism or blessing is interchanged amongst Caribbeans. It does not mean the same as a Catholic Baptism because Trinidadian Baptists do not get baptized in the conventional way of the Catholic church. There is a cultural misunderstanding with the juxtaposition of the words. This is why Gina kept saying it was not a baptism because it does not mean the same thing in her culture like it does in theirs. It means a blessing. I can honestly understand Bethenny and Jason’s concern with this. However, I do believe that Gina was coming from a kind place and is not trying to hurt Brynn or indoctrinate her. I feel as though some of the comments posted are coming from a narrow minded white American perspective that seems afraid of the “other” or thinks that other cultures are weird, strange or scary. Most of you have probably never even been to Trinidad or outside of the U.S. and your initial thought of Gina was that she was a Jamaican because you are ignorant of other Caribbean countries. This ignorance seems to be the same reason why people are questioning if Obama is a citizen of the US or not. Be careful because myself, Gina, and Obama are not going away. People of color will be the majority of this country in the next 20 to 25 years, so you will see more of our cultures, traditions, and religious practices becoming more mainstream. We deserve to be respected just like the cultures of Germans, Italians, Irish, and Jews are in this country. Her church is not a scary place and a room full of brown people is nothing to fear. Some of you guys seem scared like they were going to sacrifice the baby and that was not the case. Bethenny showed understanding by keeping Gina and realizing that it was a cultural misunderstanding. Thank God she is nothing like most of you!!!

    • marcig says:

      You are taking this way too far and you don’t exactly know what you are talking about. I am from Trinidad and very familiar with the Orisha Babtist church. My paternal grandfather was the leader (bishop) of such a church in Trinidad and I spent lots of time in that environment. There is way more to it than you see on the surface. There are many secret rights and rituals that only the very top ranks of the organization is privy to. Gina, her bishop and the others were way out of line! I became very suspicious and scared for the baby when it looked like they were going to baptise her since the word babtism was mentioned and there was a basin of water. I kept on saying to myself, hold on..what the h.. is going on..on no…take your baby. Bethenny should have done some due diligence before taking her family there. I don’t have anything against this religion that I was more or less exposed to from birht till I early 20’s, but I have to say that it is not a church in the traditional sense, and it is not a branch of christianity. It is based on African spiritual traditions and has some aspects of ocult as does the Catholic church. It is highly mystical. The christian elements were introduced during slavery as form of disguise from slave masters who did not permit the slaves to practice their African traditions. The christian elements persist today because many protestant and catholic christians in Trinidad still have a negative view of African based religions, so its a way to fit in an be accepted. I feel that Gina was pulling a fast one on Bethenny and that’s why she did not give her more details beforehand. It’s not like they speak different languages. There is really no need for the misuderstanding. Doing anything to somebody’s baby without their prior knowledge or consent is a no no across all cultures. I immediately felt really uncomfortable with Gina and though that she needed to be let go. I would’nt want her for my baby nusre. Bethenny and Jason are being really naive on this one, but as long as no harm is done is probably better that they don’t have their heart’s broken.

  56. Candace says:

    Oh Jesus. A lecture on political correctness.

  57. AnneCoulter says:

    I’ll bet you’re a big fan of Fox News, aren’t you Candace?

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