IHJZ The Real Housewives of New York – Season Four

I Hate Jill Zarin  The Real Housewives of New York – Season Four

In our continuing story, Quincy picks up with the New York Housewives still in Morocco filming Season Four of the Real Housewives….Based on a true story…

Game, Set, Match

In Morocco, Ramona, Sonja and Alex had spent the late afternoon hours in their private rooftop pool of the King’s hotel, drinking cocktails and discussing the day’s events.  Cindy had stopped by for a while, but she was did not want to be dragged into the battle of the blonds vs. the brunettes.  She saw herself as a peacemaker although the rest of the cast and crew saw her as a whining, moaning complainer.   Cindy felt that her early attempts to bring humor into the discussion had fallen flat when Ramona and Jill had gone down memory lane and discussed the last trip to St John.  Jill would never forgive Ramona who she felt had given her the ultimate insult to be sent away.  Jill felt that she was invited and she would never understand Ramona’s concern for Bethenny’s health and wellbeing or Alex’s distress at seeing Jill appear unexpectedly.


During a candlelit dinner, Jill Zarin began to taunt Ramona with her own special brand of humor. Jill said, “Ramona has to have her Pinot Grigio the moment she walks into my home. “  Jill continued to share moments where Ramona had been “outrageous” and she used Pinot Grigio in every story.  Ramona was in a haze, but she knew that Jill Zarin was on the attack.  Her attempts to put Jill Zarin in her place had not been successful.  Ramona wanted Jill to understand that she needed to apologize to Alex, Sonja and herself as Jill’s accusations of them bullying Kelly had been picked up in the online press after anonymous leaks.  Kelly too was beginning to listen to Jill and was making comments that reflected her vision of the Universe.  Alex and Kelly were never on the same wavelength, but Alex was again listening to Kelly’s comments and quietly trying to tell everyone that something was very wrong here.


Jill and Kelly had become friends over the past two years.  Jill convinced herself that there was nothing wrong with Kelly and she was determined to convince everyone else that Kelly is completely fine.  Kelly had become Jill’s sounding board.  Kelly would turn Jill down to a two most days, but when Jill discussed Bethenny’s offenses, Kelly would turn Jill up to a ten and would record Jill’s wisdom in her distorted brain for future playback.  As Jill rattled off Alex’s list of offenses, Kelly’s brain was registering the litany of Alex offenses with the flare of dramatic effects only found in the mind of a Kelly Bensimon.  In Kelly’s mind she saw white Kabuki faces and Satan’s glare, too much dark heavy eye makeup and Johan faces.  Scary Island had been played back in Kelly’s nightmares on many nights. Jill had cut off Kelly’s alcohol supply earlier in the day.  There was no way Kelly would be sent home from Morocco when Jill was in charge of the adventure.  Kelly was not eating and that was a problem.

Jill ordered the butler to find some candy for Kelly but she found a supply in Kelly’s suitcase, Jelly Beans and Lolly pops littered the bottom of the case as if they’d been there for months.  At least, Kelly would have some calories.


Jill was in charge and  it was her game to win.  She was sober as always and she had the upper hand.  This was the dramatic dinner she had planned.  Jill would clear the air and right all of the injustices that had been done to her in Season Three.  Jill had no intention of jumping under the bus for them in this new  season.  She would throw Ramona under the bus as she had done in Season One and Season Two.  Amazingly, Jill had not planned on attacking Alex.  The four member Jill Zarin PR team had felt this would not be in Jill’s interest, as the crimes of Alex McCord had never been filmed.


Alex and Simon had done things to Jill and Jill knew what they were. The Employer had his suspicions, but Jill was not going to help anyone that she considered an enemy so she would not give them any publicity.  As you know, any publicity is good publicity.  That is Kelly Bensimon PR 102 lesson.   Jill had listened to Kelly and watched Kelly deflect bad publicity with her umbrella of words like “break through” and “Authentic”.


Ramona finally stood up and stumbled as she walked over to the head of the table where Jill Zarin sat.  Ramona wanted to talk to Jill quietly, but in her haze she was unable to convey those intentions.  Ramona knew that Jill could never stay angry with her for long, but Jill’s horrible memory couldn’t wipe away the vision of Ramona telling three million people at last year’s reunion that she had called Ramona and asked her not to film with Bethenny.  It was bad enough that Ramona threw her out of the villa on St. John but how could Ramona tell the world about that phone call?  As Jill watched Ramona stumble toward her, she ran away sobbing.


Alex and Sonja knew that in Ramona’s drunken state things could only get worse between Jill and Ramona and so they helped Ramona to her room.  After they left, Jill went in to confront Ramona.  There were biting words from each woman.  Jill said, “You have to tell me that you are sorry or we can never be friends.”  Ramona was not sorry for any of the decisions that she had made on St John, she was glad she told The Employer about Jill’s demand that she not film with Bethenny and had no regrets about what happened at Jill’s party at the beginning of the season.


Ramona was not sorry for going to Bethenny’s wedding or appearing on Bethenny’s television show.  Jill wanted them all to boycott Bethenny’s show, refuse to film with her and let her fail because she had no support from the New York Housewives.  Ramona was disloyal to Jill, she knew that Ramona’s popularity was rising and Jill needed Ramona to be on Team Jill.  Ramona was drunk and frustrated, but she stood her ground.  Jill left with her final comment, “You never were my friend and we will never be friends!” Ramona had heard that many times before from Jill but the exhaustion and frustration were overwhelming as Ramona laid on the bed sobbing.


In the morning, the ladies were taken for camel rides in the desert outside of the gates. Ramona had a serious headache and wanted to stay behind.  Sonja too had decided that riding a camel was not something she wished to do.  She would take photos of the ladies as they road.  Just as the caravan began to move one of the brunettes began to slip off and a camel driver ran to her side.   The film crew caught the event and the secret of the housewife who hit the sand, would be shown in the Fourth Season.  Falling off a camel is almost as good as flipping a table.  The ladies were very happy that moment would be on tape.


The afternoon filming schedule included a Belly dancing lessons, an ancient art from the era before Islam.  The ladies were given appropriate clothes to wear for their lesson.  A woman in a black chadori watched from the doorway.  She was a government official sent to oversee today’s filming and to act if this event went out of control.  The government had closely monitored all of the filming of the these ladies from New York City, as the King did not wish for his country or hotel to be insulted.  Respect of the guests in homes was very important to the people of Morocco.   Ramona walked up to the lady in the black chadori and told her that women need to be educated just as she had helped that Hooter’s girl last season on the neighboring boat on St. John Island.  Ramona is a giver, she likes to help other women.

Unfortunately for Ramona, her remarks were looked on with shock and the Employer’s representatives had to take a meeting with the King’s representatives so filming could continue.   Jill and the Countess had a conversation about Ramona while Ramona listened but remained silent for a change.  Ramona again fell into tears, she was only trying to help.  She wanted to go home to NYC.  Jill had won this match.


In NYC, the Employer had heard good things about the filming in Marrakesh.  Problems with the government did not bother him.  There had been problems with law officials before with other housewives and there would be problems in the future as he was planning to send the NJ housewives to an island soon when they filmed.

The members of “THATblog!” were enjoying the discussion of “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” so much that they had completely forgotten about Jill Zarin.  Why would anyone care about NYC when you had the Malibu dinner battle with a seer from the show “Medium”?


Back in New York filming had slowed to a crawl as the Housewives were out of town, but The Employer sent crews sporatically to see if anything interesting happened.  The Employer wanted all of the men to get together for drinks and steak dinners one night so that they could film it, but it was impossible to get them all together at the same time.  The Employer didn’t care much, most of the men were dull and there would most likely be very little footage he could use anyway.


Bobby Zarin noticed that his wife’s dog Ginger was a very hungry little girl, he rarely was responsible for feeding her and didn’t realize how many lamb chops she typically would eat, so he gave her extra food.  Bobby said, “It looks like you are eating for two, Ginger.”  His daughter in law was eating for two, he found it funny that the dog seemed to be as well… (Maybe, three or four….  If only Bobby knew.)


> Mario and his daughter Avery were enjoying time together as the two were very close.  They had laughed endlessly at dinner discussing Ramona’s foray into modeling the previous season and wondered if The Employer would ever come through with his promise to introduce Avery to Joe Jonas and Justin Bieber.


Luann’s boyfriend was enjoying his free time focusing on his business and not having to dress for dinners and fashion events that his girlfriend would drag him to while she was home.  He received several text messages from many women that he’d dated in the past or met during boys night out, he usually ignored them but while Luann was out of town…what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her.


Sonja was sure to leave no loose ends while out of town.  No man would ever cheat on her again, she would see to that.


Simon and the chums were eagerly awaiting the return of their Mummy, they missed her so much.  They were making chocolate chip pancakes and planning trips around New York City with their own film crew. Simon would become a break out star and his videos would be on bravotv.com.  Simon would be glad to get back to writing his blogs again, while time consuming, he has much more time on his hands now and really enjoyed blogging.

To Be Continued…

Part II of Quincy’s weekend blog:
Armistice by Quincy IL

Jill Zarin and the Countess had returned to Manhattan feeling that they had won the Berber War.  Jill knew that Ramona and Alex had been put in their proper places.  Cindy now understood the pecking order that Sonja had described in their conversation while waiting to leave on Air Morocco.  This group of fabulous people would have Jill Zarin as their leader.  The Countess would be on the Privy Council.


Alex understood this too and she explained what had happened in the Dinner Battle to Simon.  Simon was a great audience he made all the right sounds and asked all the right questions.  Simon knew that the reality show had changed and that this reality show could not survive without Jill Zarin.  Everyone else was expendable.  Alex would have to find a way to live with the taunts of Jill Zarin even though she rarely saw the humor behind those comments.  In her private thoughts, Alex doubted that the fans would ever be able to understand Jill Zarin’s humor, but she did not say this to Simon as they were being filmed by the Employer.  Simon reassured Alex.  Their book tour was going well.  They were finding work outside of the show and there was the possibility of a contract for Alex with a modeling agency.  They would find a way to survive in Brooklyn in this economy.


The Countess and Ramona decided to throw Sixteenth Birthday parties for their daughters two days apart. They invited the same guests.  Ramona’s theme was “anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you.”  The Countess sang, “No you can’t.”  Ramona fired back, “Yes, I can. Yes, I can. Yes, I can.”    Ramona was competitive from the first moment that she learned of the plans for Victoria de Lesseps birthday event.  She found the best event planner, reserved an incredible midtown loft for the event and the music was to be provided by a DJ.   At least that is what she told everyone who was living in Manhattan.  This was going to the best party of the Fourth Season of “The Real Housewives of New York City.”  The Countess was now becoming competitive too.  Her daughter had a title so her event would be age appropriate for Victoria’s station in life. Victoria and Avery both chose winter themes.  Ramona and Luann both knew that their party would be chosen as the season finale episode of their show.


Victoria’s event was first. One hundred family members and friends were invited to this small event.  Nonalcoholic mocktinies were served Victoria’s friends.


There was a fire eater.  The theme was frost so they had snow falling on the dance floor.  The cake had sparklers and roses.  Victoria’s maternal grandmother, Rolande Nadeau, was the last person to leave the dance floor.


Jill Zarin, Bobby Zarin, Cindy and Kelly attended the event.  There were so many wonderful gifts, but Victoria loved the handmade purse and jewelry from her mother’s trip to Morocco the most.


Avery’s birthday was dazzling.  There was a forest glimmering with icicles and real snow.  Avery served as her own DJ at times as she was very particular about the music that would be played at her party.  The cake had “Snowflakes and Sixteen Candles.” Avery wore a baby doll dress from Kimberly Towers.


Alex and Simon shared a table with Sonja and Kelly.  Bobby and Jill decided to move to their table and spend the evening with their cast mates as the cameras filmed the event.  Jill and Ramona acted like nothing had happened in Marrakesh.  They had not spoken since they had arrived back in JFK, but Simon had contacted Bobby and suggested that Bobby intervene and encourage Jill to attend Avery’s event.  The entire cast had watched Avery grow up for the past five years.  That evening, changed a lot of hearts in Midtown Manhattan. The women would try to work together to promote each other and their projects.


In a huge office at 30 Rock, the Employer loved the dailies that he had seen from the fights in Marrakesh.  He hoped for more conflict, but it was Christmas so several of the stars were leaving for their holiday trips.  They would begin to film again in January when Sonja was throwing a Burlesque Bash Fundraiser.  The visuals of the ladies in costumes should have some interest.  The employer did not know that the ladies and gents had come to terms and the opportunity for conflict was disappearing for the series.  This would be a problem when the producers began to edit and put film into the can for a Feb. 15th Premier.  The Employer was busying with his promos.   Bravo wanted to advertise the new season for over one month in order to make the fans interested in the new season.


The members of “THATblog!” were discussing the final weeks of “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” and following other bravo shows.  On New Year’s weekend many long time board members stopped by to wish all a Happy New Year.   The creator of “THATblog!” was reviewing the many shows that had been blogged since the creation of  the blog. Several late night members of the board noticed and odd posting and commented on it.  In the morning, the creator of “IHJZ” noticed that post too.  It seemed to be speaking to her directly.


Karina Katzowski
Submitted on 2010/12/29 at 7:18 am
Lynn..I found this site and find it curious and interesting. What will you do if Alex and Jill and Simon make up? You seem to hate Jill because of them. If Simon asks you to end all the hate..will you? Just curious. K

After looking at the IP and remembering that several people had noted that Jill Zarin had gone to Aruba on vacation, the blog owner realized Jill Zarin was asking her this question so she answered Jill Zarin in a blog explaining that she hoped Alex and Jill would make peace because she did not want Alex to be mistreated by Jill Zarin in the future.

Jill Zarin responded on twitter.

@JillZarin: Who knew we had so many fans in Aruba! Our show airs here and all over the world. I feel like we have friends everywhere we go. So blessed.

@JillZarin: I just heard some of you have been bullied AGAIN by hate blogger.My cyber assistant will start blocking any of their followers. I hope helps


There were a number of discussions on the board concerning the post and asking why Jill Zarin would take time from her fabulous vacation to join word press and post to the blog owner.    It had to be the name of that blog, “I Hate Jill Zarin.”  Jill Zarin, the Bravo reality star at the center of a fabulous group of people, was bothered by a group of women and men who simply hated her behavior and was not afraid to state their feelings.   Jill Zarin had conquered all of her cast mates, but she was still at war.  An opportunity for peace would be offered, but Jill Zarin would decline that offer.


The Employer was having a wonderful New Year’s vacation.  He was out of the country and he did not have a care in the world.  His Feb. schedule was strong and he would get great ratings which would please his new boss, Comcast.  This was going to be a wonderful New Year.


Real Housewife of New Jersey, Teresa Giudice’s husband Joe has been arrested again, this time he decided to use someone else’s information to get a fake driver’s license.  This guy seems to think that the laws don’t apply to him.

First his lies on his Bankruptcy filing, drunk driving conviction, fighting at his niece’s Christening, fighting while on a Bravo sponsored trip, now this?  Wow Joe Giudice, you must enjoy it in jail, are the kids really getting to you that much?  or is it Teresa’s constant nagging?

Mr. Giudice, the State of New Jersey says you cannot drive, period!  Deal with it!

http://montville.patch.com/articles/joe-guidice-arrested-at-home

Until Next Time….

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280 Responses to IHJZ The Real Housewives of New York – Season Four

  1. Sha2000 says:

    Thank for the blog 🙂 !

    Wow, going for a fake id & doing so AT the dvm and under your own BROTHERS name! That takes balls, selfishness and plenty of stupidity! If I were his brother I’d press charges for identity theft…what else has this guy done that hasn’t gotten in the press, that’s the big question.

    btw,Who’s that guy w/Bobbie?

  2. butterisafruit says:

    http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/03/real-housewives-of-dcs-lynda-erkiletian-sets-the-record-straight-on-the-season-2-cancelation-rumors.html

    As we reported on Thursday (March 24), news that Bravo would not be renewing “The Real Housewives of DC” for a second season spread on the Internet.

    And even though the network clearly stated that it had not made a decision regarding the show’s Season 2, the reports continued. Now, one of the cast members wants to set the record straight.

    “There’s no official announcement,” cast member Lynda Erkiletian tells Zap2it exclusively. “There’s no way. [Cast member Cat Ommanney] is going on ‘Watch What Happens Live’ on the 28th. One might wonder why [Andy Cohen is] having a DC housewife as a guest [if the show is canceled].”

    “There’s negotiations taking place,” she adds. “And no decision has taken place. Whoever started the rumor was basically doing it for attention.”

    We spoke to Lynda further on the cancelation rumors, the talk of low ratings and the criticism that the cast just wasn’t exciting enough in Season 1.

    Who and for what reason would someone want to start the rumor that the show was canceled?
    I think we certainly have people out there who like attention, thrive on it, make stuff up, and are habitual at it. So, my first thought was that a team who had something to gain, which is a firestorm, leaked it. I’m perfectly happy living my real life in the real world while negotiations are taking place.

    The article’s source says the show should be shooting by now. Is that true?
    That’s not true. Basically, we’re four months on, four months of promoting and finalizing interviews, and that sort of thing, and normally four months off.

    And when you say we’re supposed to be filming right now, we’re obviously filming when we’re supposed to be filming. And if we’re not filming right now, that means we’re not supposed to be. It’s just craziness.

    How do you feel about the reports that your show failed in the ratings?
    The thing that I really hated about what was going on yesterday was that people kept talking about the ratings. Our ratings were double, triple what Bravo had anticipated. Our ratings, basically as I heard it from Bravo and [the show’s production company] Half Yard, we were only second to New Jersey as a freshman show. Our first episode had 1,700,000 or 1,600,000 viewers. Beverly Hills didn’t have that on their first episode.

    So, the idea that people were saying we were terrible in the ratings? We weren’t. We exceeded everyone’s expectations. We knew that the [White House] incident may affect our viewership and some people wouldn’t want to watch. So, we came from a disadvantage and we managed to run over a million viewers for every single episode. I was very proud of our ratings considering the circumstances, but most importantly because we were a new show.

    Some viewers felt your season wasn’t entertaining enough. Why do you think they feel that way?
    I think the reason that happened was we only had nine episodes and I believe that what occurred was that much that we had was posted on video, because Bravo had no choice but to showcase what led up to the White House incident. They had no choice, but to allow that to unfold. So, by tweaking two plus episodes, they cut a lot of material that would have shown people to be much more interesting than they were. It’s not that they’re not interesting, it’s that you can’t show a snippet of a story and not follow it to the end. In production, you have to follow it to the end.

    There were tons of material that Half Yard and Bravo just weren’t able to use primarily because everyone wanted an answer to the White House incident and Bravo had to give it to them.

    If you were to go on to a second season, what can the viewers expect?
    I think that there are some dynamic, incredible women in Washington and you merge women and Washington and you’ve got a great second season. And I hope the fans and the naysayers will give Washington the opportunity to really show itself for what it has.

    Are you glad to hear that there’s still a chance DC will return?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Add in the rumor that the cast won’t come back if the Salahi duo are resigned. IMO, I’d give them a second season without the Salahi mess because they are interesting women overshadowed by a very negative incident and two people who don’t belong in the mix.

      • butterisafruit says:

        I’m probably one of the few that liked this one. I didn’t find them as mean as the other shows. Not liking or buying into the Salahi’s was easy, and hating them was even easier. I couldn’t stand Cat. I know she’s well liked here, but that woman would have me screaming at the t.v. I’d like to see another season of DC. I didn’t find it that awful or boring.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        except that were the two that were the main focus of thier season

    • Amber...RealWife says:

      HELLLLL NO!!! Let sleeping dogs lie or continue in a comatose slumber! LOL Sorry even though I liked Stacie and the men, the others just grated my nerves and were boring as hell! Cat, Lynda, Mary and the Salamis were boring and all needed an enema as they were full of ____!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Bravo wont reply to me directly on Twitter regarding the fact that first they announced THEN Denied it
      so at this point its anyon es guess but this morn someone said in twitter that it was all a ruse to get the other women to agree and do another sesaon WITH Michelle
      and when you think about it that kind of sounds like it could be true

  3. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Quincy for another installment. Jill has the power this season to correct the negatives revealed from last season – but she isn’t about redemption – she is about revenge and domination. She knows how to exploit Ramona’s weakness and that she can’t go to war with Alex outright. She has the countless and the lunatic to do in Alex. Cindy and Sonja have to figure out how to survive this battle and may not be saavy enough to avoid becoming casualties of war.

  4. Miss Anthrope says:

    Joe and Teresa are the biggest losers that Bravo has ever employed.

    They both seem to live in some alternate reality where horrible behavior is no big deal at all. Just the way that Teresa acted about being millions in debt was bizarre at best. If I was even 10k in the hole I would be having panic attacks on a regular basis. But for Teresa and Joe it’s equivalent to getting a skinned knee.

    There are so many despicable things that these 2 have done and the worst part of it is that they have no remorse at all. All they ever do is lie about it. I cannot wait to see how this coming season pans out and whether or not Andy Cohen will FINALLY pin her down with the tough questions instead of letting her lie and/or talk around the subject.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I don’t think there is any way Andy can ask and get a straight or near truthful answer. These two are in hot water up to their necks, the truth would only incriminate them more. It’s not Andy’s interviewing style that’s the problem.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – Andy can’t handle Teresa and Teresa can not tell the truth. The courts will decide what these criminals are guity of and hopefully put the whole lot of them away.

        • Pat says:

          Andy did handle Teresa at the Reunion show after she pushed him. He put order in at the show.

    • error404 says:

      I actually feel this way about the whole cast of RHoNJ. T&J are just the most obvious. Given the father’s sketchy demise, A Manzo’s political corruption, Dina’s fake charity, Chis L’s bankruptcy, the bizarre feud with the brother, they are all petty crooks IMHO. And let’s not even begin with the circus sideshow that is Danielle! LOL

      • mariareads says:

        I always thought NJ was completely shady and crooked. Not a single one of them is showing us any truth. What a crock that franchise is. I wish Bravo would cancel some of this krap and find some new ones. Then again, maybe no woman with any self esteem of any kind would sign up! What started out as a fun thing has turned really dark. I loved OC initially as well as NY. Now I watch because I really hate most of the TV sit coms “dramas” because I feel as if they are aimed at the 20/30 something crowd. Boring.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Maybe Theressa is one of those women that has a husband that keeps all the really important stuff from her

  5. boston02127 says:

    It doesn’t say “New Blog” on the old blog and for some reason I can’t type it in. Can someone else try? Thanks.

  6. Amber...RealWife says:

    Great blog Quincy!

    As for Joe and this new offense, honestly… who does this? JuiceyJoe of course! He believes himself to be above the law, and must have had family help to do this latest falsification of documents. All they needed was to have shown baptismal records and the mom would’ve been implicated too! As long as he continues to be treated as a “celebrity” while incarcerated, he will continue to break the law! Had he been put in “general population” (thanks OZ), he would’ve came out a boy scout. He probably would’ve taken public transportation had he been mixed with the Aryans, Muslims and Sistah’s in prison. He’s not a star. He’s just the BarneyRubble looking, knuckle dragging husband of a silly violent dolt! When he’s put into protective custody, it’s like a vacation away from the screaming banshees that are his wife and daughters. Sure there’s no wine, pizza or proscuitto, but the sleep is marvelous! He needs to stop or be stopped. For the Guidices there seems to be no in-between.

    • alicia says:

      I’m surprised with their “money” Joe didn’t just pay some Gumba to drive him around. It sure would have been cheaper in the long run !

  7. Great blog Quincy! I enjoy reading your RHONY season four previews. I am going to try to watch RHONY but I don’t think I am going to last the entire season. I may not last past the first episode. Jill and Kelly have turned me off to RHONY and it is a shame because RHONY used to be my favorite.

  8. Rhetorica says:

    Great continuing saga, thanks.
    Remember, I only began watching Bravo last April after surgery. (it’s been nearly a year) but I’ve seen most of the HW shows in reruns. NJ I just couldn’t take. I think the sisterhood was terrible! I don’t know enough about Danielle. I was also bored with DC. I didn’t watch regularly to understand the story.
    I don’t have trouble with “teams”; it’s the four/five against one that makes me upset and too hard to watch.

    • error404 says:

      ITA.

      Just because Danielle is bat-shit crazy was no excuse for the mob to bully her. And for a bunch of women who love to throw the b word around whenever someone suggests they are less than Godlike, the cast of RHoNJ really did bully Danielle. What else to you call ambushing someone outside of the toilet, calling them names, and when they refuse to engage with your taunts, following them out into the parking lot and physically assaulting them.

      Pay attention PUHLEASE Jill and Kelly, this is what bullying is. Exactly what your friends did in NJ. THAT is bullying!

      • Amber...RealWife says:

        That’s the reason I couldn’t stand Caroline, because she was the biggest fattest oldest bully of them all! She did everything in her power to keep the bs going against Danielle. Her lackeys lost control and physically attacked Danielle giving her the sympathy that Caroline didn’t want her to get. Caroline went so far as to insist Danielle lose her job and testified against her so she’d have to pay her ex! Who does that? An evil intruding bitch who will get hers too. Teresa is a broke bitch who needs the money, but Caroline and Jacqueline could’ve quit the show and continued their lives. But no, they wanted the fame and fortune, banding together demanding Danielle be fired. A bully wants to beat up, torture and destroy their victims. Mission accomplished in NJ.

        PS Yes, I know Danielle was no angel, however, no one has the right to take away someone’s ability to provide for their children. The one’s they claimed to be worried or sympathetic towards. How worried are you when you’ve had their mom fired and she’ll be struggling to feed, house and clothe them? They are horrible women, who took a feud to a new level. While Jill tried those bitches succeeded.

        • Adgirl says:

          I totally agree with the last paragraph. That is something that truly disgusted me about JZ and Camille too. They go after their rival’s income.

          • Amber...RealWife says:

            Actually Camille refusing to work with Mauricio was well within her rights. If you are insulted by the wife of the finest grocer or drycleaner you can go to another establishment. You don’t have to stay there knowing the wife dislikes you and doesn’t respect you even if the husband is a doll. Now Jill and Caroline&Shrews were going after their nemesis’ only/main employment while Mauricio wasn’t surviving off of the Grammers. An occasional listing by Kelsey, although lucrative, would not change Kyle’s lifestyle. Mauricio was a well known realtor with plenty of clients and would find business elsewhere. I don’t think Camille badmouthing Kyle would endanger Mauricio’s career. It would be Kyle behaving badly that could effect future business.

            • PJ says:

              I completely agree. There is a world of difference between JZ and Camille. There was no reason for JZ to go after anyone’s income; she did it simply out of spite. It wasn’t like JZ made a decision to stop doing business with someone she had been doing business with. JZ gave interviews or at least an interview saying things about people that could prove damaging to them. Then she made statements on the reunion show that could cause Simon’s employer to dismiss him. She tried to get people not to film with others; her motive could only have been to make them undesirable to the show if no one would film with them. What else could it have been? None of the things JZ did were valid or reasonable reactions to what had actually happened between her and the people she went after.

              Camille on the other hand had been doing business with Mauricio and decided to stop; she didn’t try to get others to stop doing business with him. She didn’t publicly malign him. Also Camille had a valid reason to stop working with Mauricio. But another big difference is that Camille changed her mind and is now using Mauricio to sell her homes that are listed. Camille also let this be made known publicly, did we ever see JZ change her mind and let it be made known publicly?

              I wonder what the people who criticize Camille would do in her situation. I think many would do the same thing Camille did. If the wife of a business associate were rude, like Kyle was, I think many would want to stop doing business with the husband. It seems like just a natural reaction to me and I was surprised that Kyle wasn’t expecting it to happen. The truth is that most people don’t give you a pass for acting like Kyle did to Camille and then expecting everything to go on as it was with Mauricio. I think it was big of Camille to go back to working with Mauricio yet she doesn’t seem to get credit for this.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                ITA what Jill did to Simon is beyond disgusting
                she better sleep with one eye open

              • Amber...RealWife says:

                ITA Kyle lives in a fantasy land where she rules all and can insult anyone, while her followers cling to her hoping to remain in her favor. Bitch please! She is so used to mistreating Kim, speaking roughly to her, that when she got angry with Camille she unleashed her wrath on her too. She acted upset not understanding why Camille would not use Mauricio, but she knew. As vengeful as she is, she would’ve done the same exact thing. Even after Camille said she’d work with Mauricio, apologized to Kyle and offered friendship, Nasty Kyle refused the frienship but of course will take her money via Mauricio.

                • PJ says:

                  I agree either Kyle isn’t used to having her behavior called out or she was playing for the cameras. I just don’t see how Kyle didn’t expect Camille to drop Mauricio after what she did. Plus I may be in the minority but I think Kyle did say something to Camille that was upsetting. Of course whatever happened was conveniently not caught on camera and it can never be proven beyond a reasonable doubt exactly what happened, but it fueled most of the drama this season. Then Taylor stirring the pot also conveniently never got on camera. Interesting.

        • Nancy says:

          A small victory for Danniel re: Alby Manzo getting caught for lying this week. How does BRAVO find these people?
          Seriously? Caroline deserves an award for acting like she was so above everyones bad behaviors.
          How do you like it now Caroline?

          • housewifeaddict says:

            How did he lie? I missed that.

            • Nancy says:

              He said that he lived at the Brownstone when he actually lived in Franklin Lakes which would have made him unable to hold a position in the city water dept,(which came with a salary and health benifit’s). They are all grifters.

        • butterisafruit says:

          Amber at quick glance I thought you called Jill an evil turnip. ..I need my eyes checked LOL

    • Rhetorica says:

      Thanks all for responding; I understand NJ better now. I also agree that Camille was within her right to stop using Maricio even if w it was a payback. I’ve read BH is filming but Kyle & Lisa haven’t filmed yet but lots of takes with Kyle & Taylor. Anyone else read this?

  9. WindyCityWondering says:

    Was there really an incident where the government was unhappy and that Bravo had to make amends for? You would think the women were schooled in the customs, etc so as not to offend the host country/people.

    • Nancy says:

      Why does Bravo thinks it’s a good idea for them to take any of these Housewives to a different country? I’d fire the attorneys if I was the CEO.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        I’m surprised Juicy Joe (& Bravo) aren’t being sued already for that recent bar brawl in Punta de Cana…that had to scare the Bravo lawyers liability depart!

        • Nancy says:

          Why would Bravo get sued for that? Were they filming down there?

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            You are right, they weren’t filming. But a nasty person would get a lawyer to sue Bravo anyway, if they could prove Bravo “responsible” for Joe. Joe doesn’t have any $, so go after Bravo. I have wondered about the insurance angle. Movie production co. insure the actors, so how much would it cost to insure a hothead like Juicy Joe, not to mention T? It does irk me that this pos Juicy can go to a nice resort, cause a brawl, hit people on top of their heads with “heavy glass” allegedly! and still not go to jail. Makes me wonder if money exchanged hands, so people would not press charges, arrests not be made?

  10. error404 says:

    ” The Employer didn’t care much, most of the men were dull and there would most likely be very little footage he could use anyway.”

    Ha! Well then “The Employer” is a fool! Mario, Bawby and Simon have given us some of RHoNY’s most memorable moments, and in many ways are more interesting than some of the wives. They’re certainly more entertaining than RHs in some other cities!

  11. Adgirl says:

    Thanks Quincy!

    • twoile says:

      Very interesting& fun, thanks Quincy gr8 as usual…..hope the actual lives up 2 ur standards of excellence;D

  12. BambiBaby22 says:

    Does anyone know if Juicy’s brother knew that Juicy was using his information? The fastest growing crime in this country is identity theft, I cannot see a judge taking this too lightly.
    On a positive note, since the article said the arrest happened at the Giudice’s house, at least they still have a roof over their heads!

    • Adgirl says:

      The Radar story said something about an investigation leading up to the arrest … I wonder what or whom tipped them off.

      • vilzvet says:

        If as mentioned above the bro’s birth certificate and/or marriage certificate had to be produced, I would think he knew! The family that cons together…

        • HD says:

          I can’t believe he did that like no one would know who he really was.

        • Adgirl says:

          I live in Caliornia.
          I can’t remember how I got my marriage certificates or my kids birth certificates. I thought I wrote in or ordered by phone. When I remarried I needed a bunch of certificates to change my name.

          • Mookies1mom says:

            I recently had to get copies of all of my important info. for myself and my husband. (Long story short, we had a very evil roommate at one time.) As long as you know all the key information a lot of it can be done online. Of course, I had to swear under penalty of the law that I was my husbands wife. But somehow I don’t think Joe would have a problem lying.

            • DJ Fruit Loops says:

              dmv screwed me over and i think somoelse is using my identity
              long story short i went to get my non drivers id and was told my current one was invalid and had been the whole time i had it
              i tell them i was never informed and why
              they wouldnt give me any information on why it would be
              but that i would have to come back with all the requiered documents
              heres where it gets good or really screwy depending on how you look at it
              in between the time i got the new id and found it wasnt valid they decided to change the color of birth cert and i had to get a new one
              EXCEPT they wont give me one without a valid id
              and i cant get a vald id w/o a new birth cert.
              good thing i didnt win the lottery as i wouldnt be able to claim it
              and so now well its like im a queen w/o a country LOL
              havent been able to go on a trip in years because of this
              tried asking all the local tv stations for help
              no one would even retur a letter or a phone call
              tried state senator governor
              nada

              but that sleezeball was able to get a FAKE
              hmmph

              • BlueSky_Forever says:

                Honest people get screwed, but criminals? Try your rep. Rush Holt is amazing. Who is your rep. in the state legislature? This is exactly the kind of problem they should help you with. If you have enough documentation, you should be able to prove who you are. What is on your credit report? That might help you figure out if someone stole your id. Now if you’re from a foreign country, that will complicate things. Good luck!!

                • DJ Fruit Loops says:

                  thanks for the advice
                  born and raised in New Jersey so you would think that would help LOL

              • LynnNChicago says:

                Damn well, you win the lottery, just give me the ticket, I’ll cash it in for ya 🙂 Sorry about all this, good luck getting it cleared up! xo

                • DJ Fruit Loops says:

                  LOL hey im born in NJ but NOT born yesterday LOL
                  Thanks Lynn you never fail to put the smile back on my face

              • Mookies1mom says:

                Jeez! That really sucks! I wish I had some wise words for you but I am at a loss.

      • Nancy says:

        It could have been a viewer. All it would have taken was for someone to have seen him driving and called the DMV.
        No PhD needed for this one.

        • Adgirl says:

          I’m hoping their neighbors are trying to get them the hell out of their butt ugly house. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have the tv crews, gossiper, the police, the auction appraisers, Giudice family members etc constantly roaring up and down your nice street.

          • Amber...RealWife says:

            I think the noise of the highway blocks out some of the roar! LOL I thought someone said their house backs up to a highway.

          • Sha2000 says:

            “Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have the tv crews, gossiper, the police, the auction appraisers, Giudice family members etc constantly roaring up and down your nice street.”

            That and the blinding glare reflecting off all those bedazzeled scrunchies and barrettes.

            • Sha2000 says:

              It does, pull the map over to the right:

              http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/teresa-giudices-house/view/?service=1

              Bet it makes for a quick escape ; )

              • vilzvet says:

                They have NO fencing and I shudder to think of the youngest one (I actually forgot her name!) getting out of the house while Teresa is on the phone or something.

                • Sha2000 says:

                  It looks like there is a fence. Look closely near the hwy. I’m sure she keeps her eyes on them, she seems like a good mom.

                  • vilzvet says:

                    Yeah there it is, but no pool. Remember how funny it was when the party planner lady came over and could not believe there was no pool. Look to the left of Teresa’s house. Is that pool part of someone’s house, it looks like a nice setup.

                    • vilzvet says:

                      Oops, meant the pool across the road, not the nearest pool. It does look like it belongs to that house. The neighborsare NOT close by in that area!

    • butterisafruit says:

      I think Taylor holds hands with everyone. Remember when she was doing that with Kyle and Lisa felt like a fith wheel.

  13. If anyone is interested, Jill is chatting on Ustream right now. LOL

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jill-s-test-show

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hope she brought her sock puppets along so she isn’t just sitting there talking to herself!

    • Mimisfbay says:

      Quincy, I loved this installment and, as always, it had made me laugh and wonder if I would watch the show this season if it weren’t for this blog.

      It is hilarious that BRAVO played S3 so near the beginning of the new season. We have all had a refresher on the nightmare that was KB. It was interesting to see JZ again she is just a piece of work and I still hate her. Bring on the snark!

      NJ? Low life criminals. Yes they believe that they can, not only do these reprehensible things, but that they can get away with whatever they do. I am still seething that they are allowed to file bankruptcy while most of us are struggling.

    • twoile says:

      No thank you! ;D

  14. vilzvet says:

    Off-topic but I have a movie to recommend: Hereafter with Matt Damon, directed by Clint Eastwood. It opens with a brutally realistic recreation of the 2004 tsunami and deals with the afterlife, loneliness and death. It was not a big hit here for some reason but I thought it was well worth my time on DVD. Mr. Ebert did give it 4 stars.

  15. Nancy says:

    quincy,
    I love the picture of Jill being cut in half. Did you do that on purpose? (or is that a dumb question?)

    • alicia says:

      What is really happening with the Guidiuces ? Why are they still in their home- I thought the bankrupcy was discharged ?

      • LynnNChicago says:

        No the Bankruptcy hasn’t been discharged …yet. The case hasn’t been resolved at this point, it is still ongoing. They are still in their home as of now

  16. Teresa tweeted that she hung out with her “honey” last night at the Mt. Airy Casino. Is Joe out on bail or is she trying to convince the public that he was never arrested?

    Teresa_Giudice: Hanging out with my honey at Mt Airy Casino, just finished dinner now we are going to checkout the scene..
    about 15 hours ago via Mobile Web

  17. LynnNChicago says:

    The blog has been updated with more of Quincy’s fantastic story! Enjoy!

    (based on a true story)

  18. alicia says:

    QUINCY- I know you have several horses and I just wanted to let you know that some of the LASKO and GALAXY fans that we use in the barns have been recalled due to fire hazard. You can check out the serial numbers on the SEDRA website. I know my fans run nonstop during these hot months.

  19. LynnNChicago says:

    Has anyone seen Jill’s U-Stream from today? Apparently she calls Bethenny a liar again…sigh!

      • Nancy says:

        Does Jill really think this Ustream “thing” is helping her?
        She really is the gift that keeps on giving.
        God bless her.

      • HD says:

        Why is Jill doing this? It just screams of desperation. Here you have Bethanny with her own show making power moves with her brand and Jill is using a webcam to stream a show. I just don’t understand it. It seems so pathetic and I would not even do it.

        • HD says:

          I am cracking up!!! So if Jill had been sitting in her living room looking out of the window she could have stopped 9/11 from happening. My goodness she needs a Purple Heart or something.

          • Nancy says:

            I love the fact that hundreds of people waited for hours in the cold and rain to see Bethenny at her book signing and only 78 people (in their own warm living rooms) went on line to see th
            “fog horn”!

          • LynnNChicago says:

            All those thousands of people died in the twin towers because Jill was selfishly out shopping instead of looking out her window.

            What was she going to do? jump out the window and stop the planes from flying into them?

            Maybe that Diet Coke is eating her brain cells.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Bethenny has left the building and Jill just can’t let it go! Jill is a jealous bitch and continues to make herself look bad by her behavior/words – life moved on but Jill didn’t.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        ok- Debbie the cousin who does RE is is a walking advertisement for why women utilize Botox and fillers.

        random observations:

        Everything about Jill is me, me, me.

        why did she say that Ally applied to Univ of Fla? isn’t she already in college?

        sweet jaysus…this thing just goes on and on…

        Jill’s skin looks really good.

        She’s speaking at Brown University?!?!?

        world ambassador? c’mon

        Who is Milan Boy- is that Vincenzio?

        She is such a drama queen! the two helicoptors? and now she thinks it’s 9/11 all over again.

        “I’m called the connector”(!) by who?

        has to scream “BAWWWWW-BEEEE”

        everytime she screams my cat wakes up and glares at me

        they’re giving Elsa big props

        I kinda like her cousin- but she seems dizty and weak

        ok- now she’s slamming RHOM- “6 and they’re out! not even dong a reunion…”

        oh now she’s upset about Gloria losing the stupid poll.

        she keeps screaming! My poor cat!

        I HAVE to do this woman’s chart- what the hell sign could she be?

        It was smart of her to do this with a sidekick, she was very relaxed at the end.

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          that was so bizarre & boring at the same time after just a couple of minutes I had to turn off foghorn!!

          anyone who can watch the whole “webisode” deserves to be paid combat pay. Ughhhh!!!! How can this season of RHONY be any good….?

        • Nancy says:

          The cat comment was so funny. My husband loved it.
          We have 2 cats that just sit there when the foghorn comes on. I’m taking them to the vet Monday morning to get their hearing checked. ha ha

        • Nancy says:

          Maybe Ally just can’t take anymore from her and wants a transfer?

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            but she’s at Sarah Lawrence isn’t she? that’s a very very good school. Not very many boys though.

            • Nancy says:

              But isn’t that close enough so mommy dearest can drive to see Ally? Florida would mean a plane trip. If I was Ally I’d go to South Africa.

  20. EXCLUSIVE: Joe Giudice Bailed Out By Family As Wife Teresa Goes To Book Signing
    ***************************************************************************
    It was business as usual for Real Housewife Teresa Giudice Friday night despite the fact her husband Joe had been arrested just a few hours before!

    RadarOnline.com broke all the exclusive details of The Real Housewives of New Jersey star’s husband being busted, and now we’ve learned that as he sat in jail, she headed out to a public appearance as if nothing had happened.

    Joe Giudice, 40, was arrested at the couple’s home and charged with fraudulently obtaining a state driver’s license. While he spent six hours being processed at a local police station, Teresa went to her book signing at the Mount Airy Casino Resort in the Poconos.

    Joe was eventually picked up by two male family members, who posted his $50,000 bail. His mother drove him to meet Teresa, RadarOnline.com can exclusively report.

    Teresa later tweeted about their evening, completely ignoring the legal drama.

    “Hanging out with my honey at Mt Airy Casino. Just finished dinner now we are going to check out the scene.”

    Later she wrote, “Just wanted to say thank you to all my fans who came out to see me. Love you guys.”

    Joe Giudice, whose own driver’s license is suspended, is accused of using his brother’s identity — he presented his birth certificate and marriage license — to obtain a new license for himself.

    He faces up to 10 years in state prison if convicted on a charge of Wrongfully Using Identifying Information of Another, and 18 months on a Forgery charge.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/03/exclusive-joe-giudice-bailed-out-family-wife-teresa-goes-book-signing

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      $50,000 bail, does that mean he has to come up with 10%, or is that something else that is 10%? Geesh, even so, how many family members does it take to scrape up 50 grand? (Remember, they are “wealthy”).

  21. sugarmagnolia10 says:

    Ugh…I recorded the NYC marathon yesterday, and am caught up to the reunion (part1) now. A nice refresher of why we “dislike” Jill Zarin. Oh hell, yes I hate her! I am not a huge Bethennny fan, but Jill…..I know Lynn and Quincy and 500 other posters have said this…B could not have gotten press if she paid in gold. Jill did nothing but ensure that she looked bad, and B looked good. Stupid girl….Does Jill pay someone for PR (other than to block and delete people from FB and Twitter)? If so, she needs a refund. Maybe I would understand her more if I bought the book…it’s all in the book, you know. I think Jill found Jimmy Hoffa, and put it in the book. (Sorry, JZ, checked it out of the library–only Alex and Cat have gotten my $$$$). IT’S IN THE BOOK!

    • alicia says:

      My husband was watching NY “over my shoulder” as I was preparing dinner the other night. He remarked that she came across as ” truly horrible”. I agree. She is reminding us all why we really hate her!

      • sugarmagnolia10 says:

        LOL…my hubs does the same…and he hates both Jill and Bethenny! But, even he admits that Jill was just hateful and that B didn’t do anything to deserve this!

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      I think I heard that Jill DID pay PR people to advise her on how to behave at the reunion. I think that is why she kept saying things like, “I was wrong” and “I shouldn’t have said that” and “I didn’t mean it”.
      She still couldn’t hide her disdain for Alex though.

      • Nancy says:

        Before all those quotes she said…”I didn’t do that. I don’t know what you’re talking about”…
        then 4 seconds later the “I was wrong” ” I shouldn’t have said that” “I didn’t mean that” came out. blah blah blah

  22. sugarmagnolia10 says:

    ****B could not have gotten better press if she paid in gold…***typo

  23. OneMoreInBoston says:

    RIP
    Geraldine Ferraro

  24. Michele says:

    Just wanted to say thanks from a lurker for this site. I check it every few days and love love love it (and I know you get this)! I haven’t seen posts from wsl and that worried me and I wanted to make sure she is ok.

  25. California35 says:

    I had recorded S3 of NYHW to watch them all this weekend. I watched between last night and this morning. At the end of one episode, when B was on the street talking to Jill on the phone…all began for me. You all remember that call, I don’t need to talk about it. I felt so sad for B. I still watched the next episode, when Ramona had B and J at her place. Again, I just gave up. I finished watching that episode and deleted the rest. I couldn’t watch it again. The other stuff, was annoying also Kelly, Luann, Jill….ugh…

    Any ways, now I will wait until Monday night when BEA will take that bad taste out of my mouth. I am very HAPPY B had her own show with out those three. Actually even if she didn’t have her own show, I would be happy for her for not being in the NYHW. It is funny because when I found out she was gone, I felt bad that I wouldn’t see her in it any more, but watching S3 over made me remember WHY it is better for her NOT to be in that show ever again. Someone said that she didn’t belong in that show, don’t remember who said that, but it was said as a dig to her….uuhh…I believe the dig goes to the show….

    • VAgirl says:

      ITA. B doesn’t belong on that show. She’s up here, they’re down there. LOL!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Hi CA35- I felt the same way. It’s just so much cruelty, that it’s hard to watch. Whenever she calls whomever and says she’ll be a little late, and then tries to fix her makeup…I almost lose it myself.

      B’s not perfect but they were just really mean to her. Just not in proportion to what ever she did to them.

    • @California35, It was Jill who said that Bethenny didn’t fit in with the group on RHONY. It was definitely a dig. Jill is a comedy and she doesn’t even realize it.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I agree. I wish Alex could have gone with B as a supporting role. She’s too good for the JZ gang. Bravo will get mileage from her being victimized though.

  26. Michele says:

    I am glad I am not the only one worried about wsl!

    • Sha2000 says:

      Where has she been? Also haven’t seen TrueLifeDiva here in awhile…oh well, we all get tired of the shows from time to time.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Scroll up to Lynns comment at 9:03…WSL is fine, taking a break from the fray & reading instead of weighing in.
        SO:
        Hi Wall Street Lady, glad you are well…sending you a smile :),
        Susan

  27. Nancy says:

    I asked a question earlier on this site…Why does Bobbie wear sunglasses 24/7?
    The answer finally came to me…Of course he wears them because he takes a #%@! load of drugs( because he is married to Jill) and needs to hide the size of his pupils!

  28. vilzvet says:

    What happened to the dieting blog? I looked and can’t find it. I’m finally getting some results, although I would now die for a cookie.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      I’m not sure what happened. I’ve been going through some drawn out dental work that has helped me drop some pounds. But it’s not the right way to do it. Every time I get over the last procedure, start feeling well and can eat somewhat normally it’s time for something else to be done. Even though I still have a dry socket that is still healing from a tooth pull done at the end of January! I’m seriously phobic about going to the dentist too! Don’t know when that happened but at least my dentist doesn’t take it personally and is understanding. Now the oral surgeon is another matter. May be he should meet Jill and learn what a real pain in the ass is!

        • vilzvet says:

          Oh feel better, dental work must stink, I have been lucky to never have needed anything more than a cavity.
          And it was buffywood! I was drawing a blank on the creator. Thanks OMIB!

          • Mookies1mom says:

            Ditto on the thanks OMIB!

            Having dental work really stinks and is expensive!
            I started having migraines at 3 so I took all kinds of medications starting around that time. I also took tetracycline (SP?) before I was a teenager. It is notorious for causing problems with your teeth later. I didn’t have a cavity until I was about 13 years old. (A friend of mine took tetracycline and by the time she was in her mid-twenties had over 150 cavities filled!) Anytime I have dental work done it triggers migraines, so I get screwed twice! But I’ll live, just ignore me if I’m cranky after April 5th when I have the next procedure done.

  29. BlueSky_Forever says:

    Quincy nice blog, your version is probably better then the schlock Bravo is going to air.

    I may only watch to see how Alex handles the barracudas (jz, lulu, kelly), the Ramonacoaster, new girl & bare ass Sonja.

    Is anyone going to read Star’s new book? It’s called “Satan’s Sisters” lol she has one character based on Baba Wawa, but changes her from white to black. If I can get it at the library, I’ll take a peek…Star is some trip.

    http://omg.yahoo.com/news/star-jones-dishes-on-new-book-satans-sisters-the-view-celebrity-apprentice/58940

  30. error404 says:

    I can’t find it now, but someone asked above what Jill’s zodiac sign was. I was going to say she was a Capricorn because I could have swore she made a big deal out of both her birthday and her wedding anniversary being in early January and thus she was cheated out of bigger and better presents somehow. But then I decided to google it and wiki says it’s Nov 30th, which is Sagittarius.

  31. boston02127 says:

    Good morning ☼

  32. boston02127 says:

    To this day Kelly still makes comments directed at Bethenny about being a cook. This is Kelly’s tweet and what she “cooked”.

    Fun idea: homemade corn tortilla chips, parmes chesse, strawberries, and swedish fish. Fun #kellykit http://yfrog.com/h3vjykrj

    • butterisafruit says:

      She thinks when you clean out the fridge you’re a cook

    • error404 says:

      When I was a kid I played with the guy who lived across the street. I say guy because he was at least 15 years older than me, and developmentally disabled. I matured and he did not, but there were always younger kids for Donald to play with. They’d all eventually grow up except Donald always stayed exactly the same.

      It’s times like this that I’m convinced that Kelly is like Donald.

    • Nancy says:

      When did this obsession with Bethenny really start? I know the “Madonna”
      comment from Bethenny happened during Jill’s charity event but I know that couldn’t have been the first conflict. Any idea’s people?

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Funny. A follow up link had this rely to someone who asked her where satchels of gold comes from:
      ‘#satchelsofgold was from an previous episode meaning money for me grows on trees for me. I wish. Id be ms philanthropic’

    • butterisafruit says:

      I can see her getting out of the reality busn. That baby doesn’t need the bright lights and cameras.

    • error404 says:

      “He had an entourage that was like Noah’s Ark and I’m not kidding,” Bethenny told Billy and Kit of Chris Brown’s enormous posse. “And I had a non-tourage.

      LOL!

      Interesting that the issue is reality tv. Not tv, but reality tv. I think she’s jockeying for a regular gig as a talks how host or something of that sort.

  33. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~thanks for the great blog.
    Cannot wait for real show & actually stay up to watch..;)

    • boston02127 says:

      Morning BaaBee Luvs……I like your little bunny.

      • butterisafruit says:

        Morning ladies, still cold here.

        • HD says:

          Good morning. Can’t wait until the show tonight. I love OC.

          • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

            Hi HD & Butter~
            Good morning & you’ll probably have to tell me about it tomorrow. ‘lol
            How are you all you doing?

            • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

              you all doing..damn typewriter lol

            • HD says:

              Are you not going to watch it Baabee or you think you will be asleep? I already set my reminder. LOL!

              • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

                I will be asleep of course. lol
                I have got to find a way to stay up later & get up later but it seems no matter if I have coffee I just toss & turn when I do go to sleep. I just let you tell me about it then I watch repeat ok HD?

                • HD says:

                  With all that you are going through it is good to sleep when you can. (I hope every day is getting a little better 🙂 ) I will certainly tell you all about it since I will be here bright and early Monday-God willin’ and the creek don’t rise.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        Thanks Boston~we got a whole bunch of cute gifs they call them. I love them too.
        How’s it by you? It’s 34 degrees here in KY.

  34. boston02127 says:

    Off to work. Have a good day everyone.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      we’re never on at the same time anymore! I don’t like this! Quit your job?

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        OMIB I wish someone could hire dear Boston, pay her more $, and give her better work hours so she doesn’t have to get up before 6 am to go to work…that girl is the best I’ve ever seen for her age. Hard worker, devoted daughter, wonderful spirit, the list goes on. I would be proud to know her IRL.

  35. housewifeaddict says:

    “Joe and Teresa are the biggest losers that Bravo has ever employed.”

    Worse than the Salamis? The NJ crew are crooks – the Salamis are fame whores that lie, cheat and steal. I think the Salamis were a worse choice for Bravo – no different than Speidi. People that will do anything to get on TV. NJ is something different. Why would those people (Danielle included) allow their lives to be exposed on national TV when they had so much to hide. Un- believable!!

    The best are Jill and Kyle types – ones that have no idea how awful they really are, and even when they are faced with it – deny, deflect, and try to blame others.

    All destructive to those around them – yet fascinating to watch – as we hope they self destruct.

    • error404 says:

      I think Bravo really has to decide just how much they are willing to prostitutionwhore themselves for some easy views. It’s like the quick high of a coke addict. Sure, all of the record breaking viewer numbers makes them feel good today, but when they realize that a fickle audience gets bored easily and moves on to the next car-crash somewhere else and all they are left with is a loss of dignity, and the loss of their core viewership, will they still think it was worth it? I still think Andy’s days are numbered.

      • Adgirl says:

        What’s their alternative?

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Agreed. The formula worked well – but at this point they’ll only get complete nuts to be on the show. Let’s face it, we only watch because they make our lives look great. It doesn’t matter how much $$ or manicures or hair stylists they have – their lives suck!!

  36. housewifeaddict says:

    I don’t know is Alex has any option but to accept JZ’s apology. If she doesn’t, she looks like she’s holding a grudge over nothing and will come off like Gretchen – whining all the time. Besides, she’s forgiven Ramona and Bethenny for their horrid comments, so why not patch things up with JZ at least for the cameras.

    Bethenny wrote an awful blog about Alex and Simon at the end of Season 2 – and Ramona couldn’t even be in the same room as them all of Season 2 – at least JZ was reacting to something Alex actually did to her. (not that I like JZ at all – I’m just not loving any of the ladies right now).

    How we’ll all end up feeling about JZ will depend on how she comes across in the new season. I NEVER thought I’d dislike Kyle more than Camille, but one episode and the reunion, plus a little lost footage and I completely reversed my opinion.

    I would love to hold a grudge like JZ or B – but I’m not wired that way. I doubt many people are. I love that B can completely take toxic JZ out of her life and not look back, but Alex has to continue filming, so she needs to figure out what works for her ….

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      good points.

    • error404 says:

      Really? Why? When the NY episode first aired, I saw Kyle give a half-hearted apology, Camille accept it, then Camille do a complete 180 and freak out making a huge tempest in a pot of tea, and Kyle go ballistic and say all sorts of horrible mean things she never really apologizes for. Two self important people kicking up a big fuss over nothing. That’s how I felt when it all began, and that’s how I felt when it all ended.

      As for Alex vs. Jill: Jill is pure evil, but even when it was happening I knew that Alex was out of control. Her “message”, the scene she threw at dull Jen’s house, the near nervous breakdown she had just because foghorn barged in uninvited… we can’t control others, but we can control how we react to others. Jill may be the devil himself, but that doesn’t excuse Alex’s drama queen rudeness in handling the situation. Perhaps she makes up with Jill because time has let her see how wrong she was. But more likely, she made up because it’s good tv and the next time they have a big blow out it will be even more dramatic. Alex wants to keep her apple just as much as the others.

    • Nancy says:

      How can Jill apologize when she thinks she’s done nothing wrong?
      We’ve seen a little bit of S4 and Jill hasn’t changed a bit. I really hope Alex doesn’t take any #%#@! from her.

  37. Jill is going to do a Ustream chat tonight. She received an overwhelming amount of requests. ROFLMAO

    Tweet from Jill:

    Jillzarin: Due to the overwhelming requests..I will ustream tonight at 10PM. We will see how it goes during RHOC. We can chat on commercials and watch!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      what a treat! she’s such a giver

      • Jill asked on Twitter if she should do a Ustream chat before or after RHOOC this evening. About five people responded to her. I guess that is an overwhelming amount of requests to Jill. She is so desperate! LOL

        • Nancy says:

          I can’t breath I’m laughing so hard. Got to go and call 911.

          • Where are all of Jill’s fans? She said she received an overwhelming response to chat on Ustream this evening. ROFLMAO

            Jillzarin: Where are my “people”?? We need you in our LIVE chat on Upstream.com Just type in Jill Zarin or jillzarin and you will see me! In bed! hah!

    • boston02127 says:

      Jill really puts a question in everyone’s mind about her so called fabulous life.
      She watches TV Upstream with her 14 fans. When she’s on vacation with her family and friends she’s tweeting away. She tweets all the time when she’s with poor Bobby. If I had a so called exciting Jill like life (which I don’t) you wouldn’t see me.

  38. boston02127 says:

    Regarding Jill tweeting that she’ll be chatting upstream.

    Kelly’s tweet~~~ @Jillzarin wow. You are talking to fans at 10pm. They will love it. Who doesnt love jillzarin, aka mamabear. Best advice queen, ever.
    .

    Kelly and Jill must of each really needed a friend to be hanging out with each other. Imagine being a fly on the wall listening to the two of them for an hour.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      No thanks LOL

    • Nancy says:

      Maybe Kelly could join Jill tonight and bring that fabulous lunch she made today and share it with her?
      KELLY, YOU NEED TO BE ON MEDICATION, I’M BEGGING YOU.

  39. Sha2000 says:

    Anyone watching Mildred Pierce on HBO tonight instead of the hw’s?

    • boston02127 says:

      Not me. I don’t have HBO. Sha, you made me laugh so hard the other day. On one of the old blogs there was a troll and you typed something to the troll (I forget your exact words) and then typed, “bring it on, I’m in the mood”. That made me laugh so hard. 🙂

    • Rhetorica says:

      Just saw the original this morning with Joan Crawford on TCM! It was good.

  40. Sha2000 says:

    Oh yeah Boston, that was about two weeks ago with LFSM ( I remember her well), she came here to insult Lynn.

  41. Sha2000 says:

    Actually I wasn’t in a bad mood. moody is not my thing, I honestly have to have a reason & I thought her coming here to be so rude & hurtful to Lynn was uncalled for.

  42. Nancy says:

    I’m sure the sponsors of RHOC are going to be “thrilled” that Jill is going to be talking to her “fans” during commercials. Wake up Andy!

  43. butterisafruit says:

    I’m gearing up for tonite’s RH of OC. I’m watching last week’s episode. I need better jewelry, this Swatch won’t cut it anymore.

  44. boston02127 says:

    Since it’s a little quiet here tonight I’ll tell you about my fab week-end (eye roll). Friday night me and my b/f went to a nice resturant. We never really have gone to nice resturants in the past year and a half because of other things keeping us so busy. So we’re eating great food and it was nice……until his ex walks in. (ex-girlfriend). The girlfriend before me. I’ve never met her. She came over to our table to say hi to him. (yeah) She’s not just pretty, she model pretty and buys much, MUCH bigger bra’s than I do. I was wishing we went to Burger King. Saturday–Worked (no fun) came home and was reading and my cat Jessi kept coming over to me acting very odd. I got this cat for my b-day when I was 6. She has been acting odd the past couple of weeks. She was trying to walk and was limping and then started dragging her back end with her front legs. I called the vet and flew over there…with my b/f that I was secretly hating and my cat in a blanket and they had to put her down. Today I just worked all day. Nothing fun. But that was my “fab” weekend…..BIG boob ex and my poor dead cat.

    • butterisafruit says:

      OH BOSTON, I’m so sorry. I wish I could hug you now.

    • Boston, I am sorry to hear about your cat.

      • dsc60 says:

        so sorry to hear about your cat boston. it’s so hard to lose a pet. my heart goes out to you.

    • Noreen says:

      I am so sorry about your kitty! I am a cat lady and it hurts so much to loose a cherished pet. Hugs to you tonight!

    • Mookies1mom says:

      I’m so sorry to hear about your cat. I been there too. Sending you big hugs!

      • Sha2000 says:

        So sorry. Lost my beautiful boy Elmo in Sep. he was 14, blue-gray fur, a lap cat…just beautiful. It’s like losing a member of the family. Sincere condolences Boston

    • Adgirl says:

      Awwwe Boston I nearly cried. Not about the big brar either.
      I don’t know what I will do when our pets Spanky & Madonna are too ill to recover.
      ((( hugs to Boston))).

      I know it’s impossible not to compare yourself to the ex. Personally, I am the type to just blurt/barf up my feelings on the topic. But that’s me.
      You already know that “he” is with you because there is more inside you than in her cup size.

    • Adgirl says:

      Awwee Boston I nearly cried. And not about the brar size.
      I don’t know what we will do when Spanky & Madonna are too ill to recover.

      I know it is impossible not to obsess & compare about the ex. Personally, I am the type to blurt/barf up my feelings. But that is me.

      You already know “he” is with you because what is inside of you is huger than her cup size.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I’m sorry you had a lousy weekend Boston! You deserve so much better! Well look at it this way, your guy was with YOU and she wasn’t! so there! 🙂 He chose YOU over her!

      Sorry about your cat, that’s so sad. I think a lot of us know what you’re going through… xoxo Love you!

    • lillybee says:

      I am so sorry, Boston.

    • Noelle says:

      @Boston,
      I’m praying for you.
      xoxo

    • LavaLady says:

      So sorry Boston. You kitty had a wonderful life with you as her owner. Don’t worry about the ex. She is his ex for a reason, as you are his current GF for a reason.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      My poor Boston~you know how I feel for you~we were at vet Friday with one of our kitties~had blood & crust all over just one ear. Rushed over to the vet & he had severe ear infection had to get a shot & medicine everyday now till it’s gone & they charged us 155.00 dollars. We also had to get a medicine for our 16 yr old kitty refilled & he is on two different ones. I know you may not be ready yet but the best thing you can do for you & your poor heart is to get a new kitten.
      I cannot believe the humane society charges 70.00 dollars to adopt puppy or kitten!
      As far as big boobs~she must not have much upstairs in her head where it matters most sweetie.
      Love & Hugs to you..

    • FlowerPower says:

      Boston, so sorry about your kitty. We had to have ours put down a year ago and she was only 8. I cried for days. A new kitty found us this fall, despite my having vowed never to have another.

      As for the ex—you’ve watched enough of these Howives to know that cup size does NOT make you a better person (or more lovable). 😀 (Still, sorry your special night out was spoiled.)

      Hope you have a much better week!

      • vilzvet says:

        Aw that stinks about the cat, Boston. But 12 years is a nice long life. And screw the ex, you are MORE than model pretty, that we know!

        • boston02127 says:

          @vilzvet–The only good part of that night was I found out they broke up because she cheated, for some reason knowing that secretly made me feel better. We kind of joked about her in the car when we left.

          • vilzvet says:

            Good for your bf, and I bet that makes a big difference. Did the door hit her on the way out 🙂

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh no! Boston I am so sorry about your poor kitty!

      Your Jessi was with you when you needed her the most. Your heart must be healing because the cat knew it would be ok to finally go.

      big boobs aren’t all that. I should know. Maybe he thought she was a nice person but than realized big boobs or not- she obviously wasn’t. Don’t hate him, he’s with you now.

    • mariareads says:

      I’m so sorry about your cat, Boston! We love our pets so much and then they have to leave us so soon. The cosmos isn’t fair about that at all.

      As for the ex with the large ta tas: I had a breast reduction after I had gained and then lost a lot of weight. Love the smaller ta tas. I look GREAT LOL!!!
      I don’t understand these women and their need to have huge breast implants. Those of us who have had just a little too much from mother nature always wanted the opposite. When I lost so much weight the breasts didn’t follow suit with the rest of me! For someone who is terrified of surgery, I got myself to that plastic surgeon and practically stuck the anesthesia in my arm myself!

      Hope next weekend is better and as for the ex-remember she is the ex for a reason.

  45. Nancy says:

    Boston,
    I’m so sorry. I have many kitties in Heaven myself. My thoughts are with you.

    • boston02127 says:

      Thank you guys for the luv & nice words about my cat. She was sickly and I never wanted her to go thru any pain. She was my baby cat. She has never been outside. I was so worried that the vet would have to keep her over night and that would of scared her so much. I believe in heaven and know she’s with my mom. I have another cat and he’s acting so odd, it’s like he knows something is wrong. He slept in my bed last night & didn’t want to go outside this morning.

  46. boston02127 says:

    Tamera is so SLUTTY.

    • vilzvet says:

      She sure is, Vicki was absolutely right, “You’re a mother of four, get off the bar”, LOLOL!!!
      Right here I can firmly say that Jim Bellino gets BLOWN AWAY as a father by Micah Tanous, what a peach that guy is.

  47. Nancy says:

    I had to watch Jill to try to figure this chick out. She looks really lonely. She was in bed with Boooobbbyyyy and Ginger. That was sort of weird.
    Not 1 but 2 commercials were about Bethenny. She looked sad during those. What else does she have in her life except this Housewives gig? Don’t worry I’m not going to the “other side” but I really feel badly for her.
    Got to go and get my zoo to bed.

  48. HD says:

    Why was Peggy acting like that girl got her hand amputated?! Kids get cuts, they even break bones too. Damn!

    • Mookies1mom says:

      She was freaking out! I don’t have children so I could be way off base [I’m sure you all will let me know;)]… but it seems to me that if the parent makes a big deal about it and the child has not then the child starts to cry. Unless it really hurt and then the child would already be crying.

      And damn, Vicki. Who did you not tell during that trip what a bad friend Tamara had been to you?!? I think the waiter wanted to run for his life but Vicki was like the energizer bunny. She kept going, and going.

      I’m SO over Gretchen. She wants to have kids with a deadbeat sperm donor (he is not a dad!) but she won’t marry him. ARGGGGGG! What an idiot!

      Alexis needs to get over herself. I don’t have a problem with her being a Christian it’s just the way she comes across. All the plastic surgery and dressing like a tramp. I will give her credit in the scene with Gretchen, when she said something to the effect of that she would support Gretchen even though what she wanted to do did not fall in line with her beliefs. But I do think that she is telling Jimbo about it and falling in line with whatever he says. And dress designer my ass! Go pay your bills!

      • vilzvet says:

        The hint that all was well was that Capri was NOT crying, she was just sitting there calmly eating her (bloody) chicken nugget or whatever that was, Heheh. The kid was fine, it was Peggy who was overreacting.

  49. lillybee says:

    Damm, I wish Gretchen’s dad was unattached. He is such a nice guy.

    • boston02127 says:

      You caught some ugly pic’s!!! I wonder if there is a way to find out how many people watched her?

      • Nancy says:

        Hi boston, I’ve been thinking of you and wondering how you are doing. Is your other kitty still out of sorts? Remember you always have them in your heart so they really aren’t that far away.

        Yes I did watch Shrill last night and she had up to 101 “fans” watching or should I say laughing during the hour. You could hear Bobby in the background ask her that same question and she answered “we just hit a thousand!!!” Soon after she realized that it was only 100.
        She really looked pathetic and I actually felt sorry for her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She was also on TV Guide’s Sexiest Men Countdown as a commentor….I had to turn it off. Her voice killed the it and I didn’t want to see/hear her twice. Why won’t she just go away???

    • AZ Girl says:

      Too funny. She is the “gift” that does keep giving.

  50. Adgirl says:

    Wow. Now I’m gonna need to eat a big bowl of crow. I hate crow. I wonder how many weight watcher points a bowl of crow is. NeNe did really well tonight.

  51. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~watched part of OC & switched back & forth to comedy channel with Lisa Lampenelli. I still think that Icky & Trampra have a little to much love for one another to just be friends. I have said that from the beginning & everyone said no. But who goes on vacation with just one girlfriend like that? Not that I care just wish everyone could be honest. Trampra already had flirtation with new friend that is bi~sexual right? Is it just me or does anyone else think so. Gretchen really got me angry when she embarrassed Slimey when he ordered food. That was just wrong. The rest of the show pretty boring.

    • LavaLady says:

      Hi BBLK: I had such a long day yesterday, I only watched Amazing Race. I will have to catch CA and OC on reruns. I don’t think I can keep up with all these shows! Although my husband is out of town this coming week until Sat. so I may be able to.

      How are you feeling? Still so cold here in NJ. Waiting patiently for spring.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        Hi LL~I am feeling very good these days thank you for asking.
        It’s still cold this morning but end of this week supposed to be 72 degrees yeah~It is so beautiful here, everything is green & ready to burst with flowers.
        These shows need a new hook if you ask me. Everything the same on all of them it seems but they give us something to talk about. lol

        • LavaLady says:

          I know what you mean. I never get tired of the Amazing Race, however. IDK why, but I love that show. It has been on over 11 seasons. I never get bored or ever want to turn it off. My family thinks I’m nuts.

    • boston02127 says:

      Last night at exactly 10 when RHOC came on my phone rang. It was my Godmother. She talked thru the whole show. I was thinking to myself, I’ll watch it when it repeats at 11. NOPE! She kept talking & talking. We finally hung up after midnight. I watched but I missed just about everything being said. I can’t wait to read the new blog.

      • LavaLady says:

        Boston, are you feeling better? I always watch the OC at 9PM on Mondays, after House. Just can’t stay up till 11 on Sundays.

        • boston02127 says:

          Morning LavaLady, I’m doing ok. Monday’s are quiet for me and I’m looking forward to a quiet day. Thank you for asking.

          • VAgirl says:

            Boston. Hope you have a nice relaxing day after your not-so-great weekend. It’s overcast and cold for the third day in a row here in VA but I have an errand I have to take care of today so I guess I’ll have to get my butt out there!

  52. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Where’s HD this morning?

    • HD says:

      Sorry I was tardy for the party. I am so sleepy.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        What did I miss HD? I don’t know if I saw old show or new one? lol
        I hope you had a good time last night?

        • HD says:

          I had a WONDERFUL time 😉 which is partly why I was not that tuned in to the housewives. Vicki and Tamara went on a trip, where Vicki took every other second to remind Tamara that she stabbed her in the back and owed her an apology. Tamara kissed her butt until they made up. Also Vicki seemed very jealous that Don is not laying it down in the bedroom like Tamara getting that Latin Love. You could clearly see that she and Donn are having issues that she is not addressing.

          • HD says:

            The new woman Peggy gave a very emtional story about her post partum depression (which was fine) but then she flipped out Kelly style when her daughter cut her finger and bled and she acted as if she was bleeding out and would need a transfusion. She actually had her husband take her daughter to the ER to see if her daughter needed stitches. I wondered if all this was for show since she suffers from PPD and wanted to seem like she was a really caring mother. Instead, she looked crazy.

            • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

              Thanks HD~Glad you had a good time.
              I must have turned off tv just when Peggy came on. I missed that. I didn’t know if show was this weeks or last weeks. lol

            • HD says:

              Oh Alexis is designing some silly dresses that only look good on women that look like her. LOL! She said in her blog she will be doing all sizes though. All sizes like what 0-6? She said the moment it interferes in her marriage or her kids she is done. Jim is financing her dress line with air I guess because I thought they didn’t have any money.

              • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

                Yes I saw that part~her family is so annoying with Jesus Barbie everything. I cannot stand her husband that control freak.

                • HD says:

                  I am a Christian and I do not conceal that fact however it seems she mentions that all the time.

                  • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

                    My hubby is too..
                    I still have doubts unfortunately for me. I just think they are not as Christian as they want us to believe.
                    That is the annoying part..

  53. boston02127 says:

    Going to get a few things done. BBL.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      @Boston – glad your weekend is over! So sorry about your kitty – be extra nice to your other one cause cats get upset too. As for the boob – bet she was jealous to see you guys out together having fun. Make this week a good one and thank you Godmother for saving you from the OC slutsathon!

      • HD says:

        Boston sorry to hear about your cat. I have two of them and I know pets become part of the family. Also your bf’s ex is an ex for a reason. 🙂

  54. AZ Girl says:

    Missed everything last night. Too much exciting NCAA games this weekend. Go Butler!

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