I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of New York Preview

I Hate Jill Zarin Preview of The Real Housewives of New York

Just one week until the Real Housewives of New York premier.  In previous blogs we’ve looked into Ramona and Luann, today I’d like to talk a bit about Jill Zarin because she has been up to so much these past few weeks in preparation of the show returning.

Jill Zarin is a woman who has never disappeared, even though the season wasn’t airing she continued to crave the spotlight.

Recently Jill Zarin has started an interesting new hobby, she has taken to U-Stream and is letting fans and viewers into her home.  From her dining room, living room and bedroom Jill streams live talking to her fans, answering questions, watching TV with them and letting them watch Jill get her hair and make up done.

The question is why?  Why is she doing this?  Her answer is that she wants to reach out to fans, give them a glimpse into her world.  If that were true, I think it would be a nice thing to do.  A bit sad since when you compare it to the way that Bethenny lets fans into her life, you have to feel a bit sorry for Jill, don’t you?

I don’t believe that is the reason that Jill is doing this.  I have my own theory.  I think it is all about damage control.  Jill has a hand in the new blog called, “I love The Housewives” by Lisa in New England.  An exact opposite blog of this one that she hates so much yet can’t seem to stay away from.  The New England blog began just a few weeks prior to the original scheduled premier date of The Real Housewives of New York.  As we all know it was postponed so Lisa in New England has written less than half a dozen blogs and even interviewed Jill’s mom Gloria with fan questions.

Isn’t it nice of Jill to take this brand new unknown blogger under her wing, get her interviews and tweet links to her blog on Twitter?  Ain’t she nice?  Ain’t she?

This woman is so transparent and obvious it is really sick.
Now this U-Stream is another way for Jill to tell her side of the story without risking being outted by a media outlet.  Let’s face it, they’ve not always been that kind to her and they certainly can’t be trusted.

Jill sent a pre-written story about herself compete with photos to media outlets, instead of posting the story as Jill asked, they called her desperate and told fans what Jill had done.  Jill asked a radio personality to write a fake review for her book on Amazon, not only did she refuse to write the review but she told fans what Jill had done.  Jill has tried to play games with the press and while sometimes she’s gotten away with it, she’s also been made a fool of along the way.

Jill needs complete control, U-Stream gives her that.  She can sit on her couch and tell viewers anything she wants to and no one can contradict her, if they do, her internet maiden Maggie will just delete it.  *Poof* like it never happened!

Jill has already gone live four times in the past week, her hair and make up treat for fans was almost 90 minutes long.  She really doesn’t want to record and allow people to watch them later, she only wants those who watch live to be allowed to view these videos but so many of her fans (yes three of them) have begged her to please record and post the videos because they simply can’t be available to watch on a moments notice.

Jill’s initial plan was to stream live during the show Real Housewives of New York, she says she’ll watch together with her fans and then talk during commercials and after the show.  What a brilliant idea!  I’m sure Bravo and Shed Media love the idea to distract viewers during commercials, mute their TV and listen to Jill talk about what just happened on the show.

It wasn’t clear if this was in lieu of her blog but she’s already made it clear that she will not be blogging on Bravotv.com.  Again, she has no control over Bravo blogs.  Jill doesn’t like that the blog on Bravotv.com has viewer comments chosen by interns over at Bravo and if last year was any indication, the comments were overwhelmingly against Mrs. Zarin and Bravo wasn’t shy about posting them on the web site.
Jill isn’t going to play that game again, this time her blog will be only on her own site with her assistant deleting and blocking anyone who has anything negative to say about her.

Jill is building herself a little cocoon where she cannot see anything negative about her, the show or her behavior.  She has hundreds of people blocked on Twitter, if you say anything negative, or follow anyone who says anything negative, retweet anything negative or most likely say anything nice to Bethenny, she blocks you.

Well she is completely prepared for Season Four and the fact that she is amping up her security blanket and surrounding herself with only love and adoration tells me that she has something to worry about this season.  If Jill had changed and was one of the good guys this season, what is she hiding from?  Why not blog on a public forum provided to her by Bravo?  Why demand so much control?

Some of the things that have already happened on Jill’s U-Stream site, Someone asked Jill if she watches Bethenny’s show.  That question was deleted and the person who asked the question was blocked from further comments.  Someone asked whether or not Jill was on speaking terms with Ramona, they suffered the same fate.

Apparently we’ve been mentioned here at IHJZ a couple of times, first on Jill’s inaugural run that she calls the test video, Jill began to talk about how they will handle “haters” live as she’s U-Streaming, someone typed the comment that, “Lynn is a wackadoodle”, Jill read it out loud and then added, “Who is Lynn?”  Oh Jill Zarin!  You and that horrible memory of yours!

I was told that someone posted on the U-Stream telling Jill that I was posting pictures of Jill and that maybe now I was a fan?  Of course it was deleted, I didn’t see the post myself, it apparently happened during Jill’s 90 minute session, I just couldn’t watch her for that long!

In one of Jill’s final blogs for season three, Jill said:

“I realized the things that I could have done better and attempted to correct them or sincerely apologize for them where I could but I ask you, where is the forgiveness?  At what point are enough apologies enough?  What else can a person do to right a wrong?  Why are some people’s apologies accepted immediately, yet mine seem to fall on deaf ears?”

Four questions and I have answers for all of them.

Where is the forgiveness? Simple, it is in the same place where your forgiveness was when Bethenny apologized, cried and begged you to forgive her.  Where did you put that again?

At what point are enough apologies enough? Well Jill Zarin, that all depends on which of those apologies are SINCERE.  When you apologize but don’t mean it, or when you apologize for being cruel and then are cruel in the next breath, people tend to not believe your apologies.

What else can a person do to right a wrong? Are you serious?  Words don’t mean a thing, there are a whole lot of things you can do to right a wrong Jill.  You have to show people that you are sincere in your apologies.  Actions speak louder than words.  The time frame between when the show was filmed and when it aired you didn’t act as though you were sorry, in fact you went on talk show after talk show slamming Bethenny Frankel.  You didn’t apologize until you realized that you came off looking horrible on screen.

Why are some people’s apologies accepted immediately, yet mine seem to fall on deaf ears? Because other people’s apologies are sincere, they have shown and proven that they know what they did was wrong and corrected their behavior.  Your’s don’t fall on deaf ears, they fall on skeptical ears because your actions don’t show that you know what you did was wrong and that you won’t repeat the same mistakes again.  It’s all about SINCERITY.

Jill you contradict yourself, you told Bethenny that you wake up every morning trying to do the right thing but seconds later you said that Alex McCord is a toxic person.

What can we expect this season from Jill Zarin?  She has implied that she is “better” this season than last season.  She continues to complain that she was the scape goat, that she was told to bring the drama and felt pressure to keep the drama going all season.  I think even Jill can’t argue that no one put words in her mouth.  The fact that she called her cast mates and told them not to film with Bethenny was just vicious and cruel.

I could have even forgiven Jill for being jealous and because she happened to be angry with Bethenny, she could have even have ignored the fact that Bethenny had her own show.  But Jill isn’t a normal person, ignoring it wasn’t good enough, Jill had to try to sabotage it.  This is not like ruining a surprise party or donating the sweater she forgot at your house to charity.  This is a TV show and it happens to be produced and aired by the same fine people who sign Jill’s paycheck.

At the reunion when all of this was being discussed, Jill first denied even doing it, then finally said, “ok I admit it, I was mad at Bethenny and I didn’t want to film with her”.  But Jill didn’t even stop there, she called her cast-mates trying to get them to do the same and Jill’s insincere, “Bethenny, I’m sorry” was supposed to take care of this vicious act?

Ramona even told us that the producers called her to ensure that she wasn’t going to follow Jill’s direction.  Jill then has the nerve to say, “I want to see your baby” to Bethenny.  I certainly see why Bethenny doesn’t want her child anywhere near this woman.   Jill Zarin is a vile human being.

Last season Ramona’s popularity increased in part because she befriended Alex McCord.  Ramona’s vicious treatment of Alex in the first two seasons was only making her look mean and somewhat ignorant because she barely knew Alex.  Ramona followed some good advice by giving Alex and Simon a chance and in the end realized that they’re not any of the things she thought they were.  Ramona quickly learned that Alex is forgiving, kind and even found that she and Mario enjoyed the company of Alex and Simon.

Is Jill trying to do the same thing this season?  We see in the previews that Jill makes an attempt at a sincere apology but I noticed that Jill still tries to control the situation by telling Alex that she has to forgive her if this is ever going to work.  Jill doesn’t stop at apologizing, she tells her victim how to accept it as well.  Ever the control freak, Jill continues to try to tell people how to react, what to do and even how to forgive her.

Should Alex forgive Jill Zarin?  Based on some of the things that we’ve seen it appears as though Alex and Simon have both forgiven her.  We see them smiling while posing for photos at events, tweeted niceties to each other and this has already upset fans.

Fans who sided with Alex and called Jill out over her horrible treatment of Alex are upset and rightfully so.  Fans didn’t want Bethenny to give in to Jill’s fake apologies and renew their friendship.  People certainly don’t want Alex to do it either, can Jill and Alex be on the show together and never speak to one another, never film together and continue this battle?  We know they film together and we know they speak to one another but has Alex really buried the hatchet?

Fans of the show, fans of Alex and Simon, fans of Bethenny have gone to war in their attempts to defend their favorite Housewives against Jill Zarin.  Jill’s assistant Darren tried to defend his boss but people weren’t having that and argued with him on Twitter.

Simon went so far as to have a bit of a Twitter war over this very subject and as it was discussed right here on IHJZ, Simon posted a response to us here as well.  It seems nobody wants to see Jill being let off the hook here, there isn’t anything to determine whether or not she’s earned it but based on the way that she’s hiding and trying to control the media that surrounds her, she’s not taking any chances.

My bet is that if Jill really had redeemed herself this season, she wouldn’t have any reason to create her own blog disguised as a regular Housewives Blog, her own U-Stream videos so that she can immediately explain away her bad behavior and only write her personal blogs on her personal web site so that she can control the comments.

Good luck to you this season Jill Zarin, I think you’re going to need it.

When Simon was called out on Twitter over what appeared to be his defense of Kelly Bensimon, he responded here on IHJZ:  (fyi, Chris is the person who took over Kelly’s abandoned Twitter name, @Kikilet.  Simon asked Chris to please stop using it)

Simon VanKempen:

1. By Chris’s own admission there was no injury so what started & followed was all based in Damnert’s initial misconception.

2. While you see me saying “watch what happens” as a plug I see it as shorthand for me saying that I can’t divulge what happens between Kelly, Jill & Alex and me on the 4th season.

3. how have I caused one fan to feel that I’ve been unfair when they felt my original affront was an injury to Chris – given Chris came in later and said it wasn’t. I am not and can not be responsible for other’s misconceptions.

4.but life IS more complicated & harping on about the DM (which was not begging or demanding) as some evidence that I had crossed to the other side seems one note.

There is no way that I can please everyone all the time, I own everything I did & with good conscience. There seems to be many misconceptions out there & when you watch the 4th season many will be cleared up.

Lastly if I didn’t care what one fan wrote I wouldn’t have entered into a dialogue with them.

If you missed it, it’s all explained in this blog and comments section:


If this was the backlash and response to Simon’s defense of Kelly Bensimon, can you imagine how fans will react if Alex and Simon forgive and forget with Jill Zarin?  I’ll be interesting…

This weekend Quincy will return with her amazing “Based On A True Story” Real Housewives of New York storyline, with just 6-days to go before the New York Housewives return, I can’t wait to see what Quincy has them getting into this weekend.

Real City Housewife has created a new web site with her very own domain name, please show her our love!



Until Next Time…

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310 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of New York Preview

  1. plainviewsue says:

    Hey Lynn. Great write up! Tonight Bethenny is in my neck of the woods, and I’ll finally meet my favorite “housewife.” Cannot wait!!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Great news! Please come back and tell us all about it, can’t wait to hear! Enjoy!

      • vilzvet says:

        I may go too, Sue. It’s such a cute bookstore, I think it may be too small for Bethenny; she should have used a Borders like Luann and Alex and Simon. Although Susan Lucci had a signing there last week.

        • plainviewsue says:

          Were you there? It is such a cute bookstore, but with so many people, it really was a fire hazard.

          • MK Valle says:

            no, no, no…..support the independent bookstores and boycott the chains. Indys are the best!

      • plainviewsue says:

        Hey. There had to be about 600 people or more at the Book Revue last night. Luckily, I got there two hours early with my friends so we were able to get seats in the second row. Bethenny came out about 10 minutes late. It was so crowded and so hot. I felt bad for all of the people standing. She looked absolutely beautiful. So skinny. Too skinny!!! She spoke for about ten minutes. Very funny and only took about 8 questions from the audience. That was disappointing, cos I was hoping to hear more from her. I know with so many people who need to have their books signed, she wouldn’t have time to speak. But it started at 7:00, and we heard she had to be gone by 9:00. I guess I was spoiled when I saw Alex and Simon, and there were only about 50 people and they spent so much time talking to us.

        When it came time for the book signing, you weren’t allowed to take a picture with her, which again was disappointing. But I was still so excited to see her. When it my turn, I shook her hand and told her how much I admired her and she gave me one of those huge smiles of hers and thanked me.

        No Jason so the whole audience was sad 😦 !!

        And that was it!

  2. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Fabulous Blog Lynn~still love Bethenny~just worried about her. Can’t wait to see new season.

    • NJ Bev says:

      yeah, Baabee. the blog was great wasn’t it!
      Why are you worried for Bethany? Do you think
      there may be something she’s hiding?

  3. HD says:

    I think that UStream thing is one of the most pathetic things Jill has ever done. Especially when you hold it against Bethanny’s show. It serves ultimately no purpose except for her to somehow think more highly of herself than she ought. She needs to seriously get a life!

  4. Error404 says:

    Am I the only one not looking forward to RHNY? Id be lying if I said bethenny wasn’t a major reason why I watched the first 3 seasons, but also I feel like the other 6 aren’t enoughtohold my attention. I’m done. Maybe had they let Kelly go I might be more interested, but I just can’t witches anymore. It’s just not funny anymore. The trouble with kiki is she is both crazy and mean and that’s a lethal combo.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      I feel the same way Error but I am still going to watch eventually. lol

    • I’m not looking forward to RHONY either. I will give it a chance but I don’t think I will last for the entire season. I think Jill and Kelly will annoy so much I will end up throwing things at my TV.

    • 2Stupid says:

      I completely agree. I caught some of season 2 last night when I couldn’t sleep. It was the scene where Bethenny tries to clear the air with Kelly and she just keeps saying STAAAAAP Bethenny. I forgot how wretched she was that first season. I now realize why Bethenny said she was done with those fools. Following the fallout with Bethenny when Jill fell in love with Kelly she started saying that Bethenny had misled her about Kelly and she had based her impression of Kelly on that. Anybody that watched those episodes knew Kelly was horrid, just down right hateful. I cannot stomach even another five minutes of Kelly. I don’t mind watching Jill because I secretly enjoy how she just buries herself. However, Kelly is a different story, she’s just OFF.

    • quincyil says:

      I am looking forward to the discussion of RHNYC here. I am sure that the humor here will be great.

      Simon cared about what a fan wrote and responded. I think he’s trying, but what a mess NYC society/celebrity kingdom is. I would not want to be a part of Jill Zarin’s fabulous cirle of people.

      I bought a NY Times in the Orlando airport and there was a photo of Simon and Alex at an event. I think they always went to events even before this show. They were supporting a cause. I give them credit for supporting thing that they believe in and going to events like the book signing of Cat O when none of the other NYC girls could bother to help her.

      If I was going to pick one of all the housewives to be friends with..it would be Alex. You can be sure that she won’t carry tales and that she would help you if you needed help.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        totally agree! I love Alex- she’s the most “real” of all of them now that Bethenny has left.

        She seems like she would be a good and caring friend.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Gotta agree! Alex seems approachable and (cover your ears Kelly) authentic with a nice sense of humor.

          • DJ Fruit Loops says:

            i agree as well Alex out of all the remaining ny hw seems to be the nicest and most non affected
            and same holds true for her hubby

    • mariareads says:

      Hmmm…I’m looking for some “fake” drama and contrived fighting. I think the are going to spin it that way as best they can. If I see that “thug in a cocktail dress” promo one more time I will SCREAM!

      • Cusi77 says:

        Maria! Hey Girl! How are you doing today? I wish you are in less pain… ((((((Maria))))

        • mariareads says:

          Hey Cusi ! I’m OK. Just got back from the CT scan. Never choose banana flavor for the Karp that you have to drink.
          I’m hoping the results will be NEGATIVE! Thanks so much. I AM in less pain. Life will be good again. It has to be. Fun to “chat” last night! I miss those times w/ friends online. Face to face friends are grand but there’s something about getting to know some people online and be able to have some fun -even in your PJ’s!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        they need to turn it into a t shirt

    • Shannon says:

      I’m not only not looking forward to it, but I won’t be watching it. I told myself last year that I wouldn’t watch if Jill was still on it. Since she is then I’m out. I never want to hear her voice again. But I will love to read all the discussions here about it. A person like Jill will never change, she is always going to be a evil, spiteful person. I can’t believe I was ever a fan but I do see now that it was only Bethenny drawing me to Jill. Without her Jill is a nobody, and I think that is what is driving her crazy. 🙂

      • vilzvet says:

        I really dread seeing and hearing Kelly again, that’s for sure. She’s so clueless, among other things. She has no fans and I am baffled why she was asked to come back.

      • Luvtopchef says:

        I’m not going to watch this season, either. I detest Jill’s behavior and I refuse to listen to her shrill voice, bad manners , product shilling and lies. There are so many more constructive things to do than watch her, Luann and Kelly. Those three are, to use Jill’s own words, toxic. They’re also boring and shallow. However, I’ll miss watching Ramona, Sonja and Alex.

    • vilzvet says:

      I asked you on another board and now I can’t find it, LOL, if you are jumping into NJ this year! I think your thoughts here will be a hoot. I think you said you’ve never seen it?! Hope you’re going to be watching…you just know the Teresa and SIL drama will be worth the pain and agony of hearing her voice.

    • California35 says:

      I feel the same :-/

      If no Kelly, then they would have brought TWO new wives to get to know. Then maybe I would be more interested. It is my favorite housewives, and I will watch…at least I will try.

    • indy anna says:

      404, I don’t intend to watch at all … EVER. Fortunately we have Lynn to suffer through the show and let us know what went on. Last year HONY and other housewive shows actually upset me so that I had pains in my stomach. In my entire 75 years of living I have never seen woman act so badly. Am I so old I didn’t realize how “common” that generation has become? (I don’t think so.) At my age I want lighter, happier shows.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I agree. I’ll wait for the comments here.

      I saw Sex and the City 2 last night… did Bravo try to create some kind of real friendship in the NY women via that scenario?

  5. WindyCityWondering says:

    Will RHNY be able to carry the show without Bethenny? IMO, doubtful but I will give it a shot. Pointing to all the damage control Jill is doing by setting up one sided communication venues speaks volumes as to how viewers will react to her behavior this season. It wasn’t Bethenny leaving that destroyed this franchise – it was Jill’s vision of what it should be – the employer should have gotten rid of Kelly….then it might have been an interesting season.

    • mariareads says:

      I’m wondering the same thing. That snark of hers certainly gives us all a laugh as she wanders through the most ridiculous situations with those nuts. I love Cuck a doodle doo, Adios Lunatic and “I’m going over to the Hooters boat to talk to some sane people” . That will be sorely lacking on hwny and it added a lot of humor to the mess.

      • Nancy says:

        You have no idea how many times those quotes are said in my home. My husband thinks Bethenny’s one liners should be put on T-shirts for all of us here at I Hate Jill Zarin.

        • Cusi77 says:

          Nancy_ That is a great idea! I agree that her lines will be missing in this new Season… But B is right to not be around toxic people like Jill, the countless classless and crazy kiki… ewwwww!

          • Nancy says:

            I honestly think Bethenny has/had a
            “Single White Female” situation on her hand.
            The “woman” is obsessed with her. It’s scary.

  6. quincyil says:

    I finally watched MDL’s finale. I don’t think that Josh Altman and Heather are a match. As your unofficial pretend soothsayer, I think he is using her. He likes the idea of her and wants to cause trouble for Madison to make a storyline.

    Josh Flagg was correct, he is not a mind reader. That “FU” contest that Josh A started was really out of line.

    Heather can go to interviews without telling her boss. That is perfectly ok. She should expect Madison to find out as there was a camera with her.

  7. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Hi Lynn- great blog!

    I don’t know why- but whenever you call Jill- Mrs. Zarin-I get a chuckle.

    and you are right- all of Jill’s problems stem for her completely rigid controlling machinations.

    She has been so blessed- she’s attractive (yes, naysayers, she is) her marriage to Bawby seems solid, she has a beautiful daughter, plenty of money to indulge herself-why so sour?

    Funny how people “block” their own good fortune by being self entitled jerks.

    To me Jill’s worst transgression was telling a fan to “go knit a hat”.

    Theresa may have Marie Antoinette handing out sushi at the christening, but Jill is acting like Marie Antoinette.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      ==her marriage to Bawby seems solid,

      Rewatching the remodeling of Jill’s apt, it’s quite evident that Bobby has to ok all expenses. She talks like she asks for things rather than talking it over as a married couple. I find that kind of odd. Bobby does seem nice and how long can he put up with someone like Jill? Jill’s daughter seems nice from what they show. I hope that doesn’t change with all of Jill’s craziness.

  8. WindyCityWondering says:

    After looking at the Upfront party pictures again – wondering if Jill has been drinking the BH Koolaide – there really appears to be facial work done, her squeezers are doing overtime and she is hauling out all the Bawby jewelry….IMO – she still doesn’t look BH worthy!

  9. Error404 says:

    I would watch a spin off with Alex and simon.

    The other 4 I could take or leave.

    I just can’t with Kelly anymore. I’m done. I’m done.

    • 2Stupid says:

      Amen and Amen!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      that’s a good idea. I would watch a spin off of them for sure. And seeing how well B. is doing and how hit or miss the ratings of the RH series are- Bravo should consider it.

      It seems like we all want a kinder, gentler show to watch? No b.s. fighting and snark?

      B. should be a producer on it.

      • Nancy says:

        The next BEA (Bethenny’s b-day party) Alex, Simon, Ramona & Mario are attending. Maybe Jill’s invitation got lost in the mail?

    • quincyil says:

      Simon and Alex have the bravotv.com videos which I will blog for Lynn’s readers. It’s going to be about a family living in the Big City.

    • If you had it like this says:

      I agree about Kelly. They really should have taken her off that show but being crazy is not an offense in the Bravo world, being boring is. I think everyone should cut Alex and Simon a little slack if they make nice with JZ. They are not really grudge holders and I think it’s better for them to accept apologies and move on. To behave otherwise would be to behave like Jill. I’m sure they won’t be bffs or anything. Bethenny had the luxury of not being on the show with Jill anymore so there was really no need for her to make nice with Jill.

      • Nancy says:

        I love your name! What did you make of that? Does Kelly really think her body is better than Bethenny’s? OMG!
        I think we should start a list of the one liners.
        “If you had it like this” Will be one it for sure. Too funny.
        My husband is now using a few of them. His favorite is
        “Adios Lunatic”

        • If you had it like this says:

          LOL! I know! She has so many good quotable quotes and catch phrases! I think she said to Sonja “If you had it like this you wouldn’t give it away” or something, like Sonja did not “have it like that”. That was right around the time she called B a ho bag….

      • PJ says:

        I agree but some of these women are just delusional crazy or bitchy crazy, Kelly is lock me in a padded room crazy. I honestly feel that it’s wrong for her to be on a TV show. I may watch the show again but I will fast forward through any scene with Kelly in it. I think it may have been Kelly even more than Jill that made Bethenny decide to stop filming RHNY. When you watch BEA you wonder why there can’t be any fun on RHNY instead of all cat fighting, it’s getting tiresome.

        • Nancy says:

          I’ve said this before. I think Bethenny had a
          “Single White Female” on her hands. I’m not kidding.
          I think Kelly could be a threat to Bethenny. I’m sure the producer’s thought the same thing during “Scary Island”
          and that’s the reason they got her out of there asap!

  10. LynnNChicago says:


    Jill Zarin just called me, I sent my number to her assistant months ago!

    She is so sorry for her behavior last season, she told me she begged for forgiveness from both Bethenny and Alex but those bitches wouldn’t even listen to her.

    She said that she told her nephew Jon Wexler to back off all of us bloggers that he had been harassing on Twitter. She apologized to me for his behavior.

    She told me Ally met a boy and is getting married this summer and that she is planning to outdo the Royal Wedding for Ally. She even invited me to attend in the Hamptons.

    She wants me to come to New York on Thursday for the premier at her expense and join her U-Stream video so that we can announce together to everyone that I’ve converted to a Jill FAN and will change the name of the blog. She is even going to help me come up with a new name.


  11. Powell says:

    Feel sorry for Jill???? That question is a joke right? I don’t hardly feel sorry for Jill. Everything she’s done, she’s done it to herself. Especially when it comes to Bethenny and Alex. If I was not in a “real friendship with someone, there is no way in the world I would use my daily energy devoted to talking about and bashing them. All I can say is I hope she does “get a hobby” this season.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Not really, I agree she’s done it all to herself that doesn’t mean that being so pathetic makes me feel a bit sorry for her. She absolutely has control over what she does and says so I don’t feel sorry for what has become of her.

      Something somewhere in her past is causing her to be so jealous and so controlling, and the people around her enable her. She has it all, a great husband, money, beautiful daughter and she’s a TV personality (which is what she wanted) yet she is still conniving and manipulating people, she can’t enjoy what she has, she always has to be “on” and in defensive mode – I do feel a bit of pity for her.

      • Nancy says:

        Do you think her not being popular at school did this?
        Lisa getting all the attention?

        • LynnNChicago says:

          Yes! I think that is a big part of it, we’ve heard many reports that Jill was a bit of an outcast in school and her sister was popular.

          We also heard that Jill hasn’t been able to sustain a friendship for longer than a few years, she has no long term friends and we’ve also heard that she went many years without talking to her sister.

          I think she tries to hurt these women before they hurt her, or if they slap her, she stabs them in the heart, she overreacts and is mean. I’m no doctor but it all sounds like it could be connected.

          • Nancy says:

            I guess this is why Jill’s opening line is…
            “I run with a fabulous circle of people” and NOT a fabulous circle of FRIENDS.
            I’d love to get a real psyc consult on her.

            • Lavalady says:

              I remember reading that Jill and Lisa did not talk for many years. Anyone know why or how they reunited?

          • MK Valle says:

            Ohhhh…Jill was an outcast and her sister was popular. Sound like a story line out of Harry Potter, Jill is Petunia Dursley and her sister is Harry’s mum!
            I hope Jill continues her ways, I know she will continue her desperate, whining ways. She hasn’t changed. I like to watch to see how many lies she gets herself into. #TrainWreck!

        • Powell says:

          That’s a great point Nancy. It seems her mom, sister, daughter and nephew agree with and defends everything she does.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I feel sorry for her.

      She’s a tortured soul unable to enjoy the wonderful events in her life without hurting other people.

  12. Mookies1mom says:

    I don’t know how they can think it’s ok for Kelly to come back. IMHO she is obviously mentally ill, among a host of other things. I just don’t know how long I can take watching her. She should have not been allowed back unless she was in intensive therapy and some medication management.

    I would watch a Alex and Simon show.

    • Sha2000 says:

      I agree and I’m surprised Bravo hasn’t given them a spin off. In the beginning I didn’t like them they seemed pretentious; now I think they were edited in an unfavorable light. An Simon (yes I’d give him top billing lol) and Alex show might be fun.

  13. Mookies1mom says:

    Jill seems to never enough. Somebody has more fans so she wants to “beat” them . Her life seems to be one big contest that she continually loses by her own actions and words.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      When you make your whole life a competition, its a 50/50 chance you will lose – who would take those odds?

  14. Powell says:

    Jill doesn’t have to blog on Bravotv.com. Her blog will be up and fans and haters will still be able to comment about each show. She doesn’t have as much control as she might think. No matter what, we still have you, Quincy and all the other blogs. And we thank you all for this forum!!!! Take that Jill Zarin. I know your reading.

  15. Mimisfbay says:

    Well this was a fine blog to read while drinking my coffee. I also watched some of S2 last night and realized I sure missed a lot. It has been a bit of a reality check to watch the past seasons and check back here.

    I had seen a couple of the early Kiki episodes and then watched her being interviewed. I posted some comment about her here. Someone here is a therapist and her/his post really made me feel like I was on a reality check choke chain. KB is truly disturbed and no matter how I look at her now I can only see that she is mentally unstable. Not so sure that I can watch her antics because they aren’t funny to me at all.

    That being said, JZ will never change and watching the earlier seasons was a shocker. I guess I have been around women with similar controlling personalities so kinda overlooked blatant things in the earlier seasons. She did have BF and RS who called her on her stuff. She was always a vile person and no amount of streaming. of any kind, will change that fact. You know, her behavior on the dog show was the clincher for me. She is the one the trainer needed to train. She literally gave the woman a non-verbal sticking up of her middle finger and pronounced to the camera that she would continue her style with the dog.

    Okay, I am not sure that I can stay away from the show. Oh, and I just love this blog so feel I must join in the snarking. On the horns of a dilemma.

    On to a more pleasant topic…HD did you win?????? I am dying out here.

    • alicia says:

      Yes, why have we not seen Kelly in any relationships ? Very telling. I started to watch reruns of rhony and the arguing just gave me a headache. Turned the channel and started to watch sex and the city- so much more fun ! I think this is howwe were sold rhony, ” A fun romp with the girls, some romance and sex”.
      I have enough competition in my real equestrian world, just wanna see the love and fun !

      • Nancy says:

        Wasn’t it funny when Kelly fell off her horse? I’m not sure what was funnier,Kelly’s or Jill falling while “ice skating”!

        • alicia says:

          As we say in the south,” Kelly ain’t no kind of rider.”

          • indy anna says:

            Alicia, do you jump or do dressage? My grandson was very into dressage until he discovered girls, but I digress. Kikisnutso can not seem to keep her seat. She rides like a beginner.

            • Lavalady says:

              I caught the reruns of the shows featuring the Hampton Classic, and I have to say I thought Victoria was a much better rider than Kelly. I am not expert, just a mom who went to many horse shows when my daughter was competing.

              • vilzvet says:

                Oh Victoria is a much better rider, that is a given. Kelly took it upon herself to be in the Classic last year when she only “knew” the horse a couple of weeks. Promptly fell off yet again. She’s in way over her head.

            • alicia says:

              I have done some dressage lessons to improve my horses’ way of going.We do endurance riding which is like marathon running for the horse.I usually do 25-30 miles per ride – mostly at the trot and canter.We ride arabians for the most part because they can handle the heat and humidity. It’s fun, I travel in a horse trailer with a living quarters in front because we compete in state forests w/ no amenities. Sometime I’ll post a ride pic!

    • HD says:

      Hey Mimi! The award ceremony is tomorrow so I won’t know until then. I will be sure to keep everyone posted.

  16. Christine says:

    Severa; years ago Oprah Winfrey went crazy over Tina Turner, following her on tour and even wearing a Tina-type wig on the Oprah show for weeks. On day she appeared without it and explained that Steadman had told her that she looked foolish in the waig. He also told her that he couldn’t understand why, with all of people who Oprah has for friends and employees, no one told her that she looked foolish.
    I think Jill needs Steadman. Bobby may be supportive, but one of the roles of your life partner is to tell you when you look and act foolish.

    • cdnfillie58 says:


    • Mimisfbay says:

      Well, one thing we all know and love about Oprah is that she can actually hear what is being said and is smart enough to course correct. Steadman may have been the one to tell her but Oprah actually heard him and made a change.

      Don’t think that you can compare JZ to Oprah because she is told repeatedly about her behavior; even by Bobby. Remember when he told her she was wrong in the BF fiasco? I think that as people speak she is thinking of ways to change their mind. She is a legend in her own mind and absolute in her belief that she is perfect. JMHO

    • Nancy says:

      That’s what I don’t get. Bobby has to see what Jill has become. I really feel sorry for Ally. I would hate to be away at college and having to deal with Jill being my mother. God just the thought…

    • California35 says:

      Wow – good story, I didn’t know that about Oprah.

      True we some times want to be supportive and not critizise our loved ones, but we should be able to tell them the truth. Mabye both Bobby and Ally have told her…she just doesn’t want to accept it.

  17. WindyCityWondering says:

    I have dislike Jill since the first season where I wrote her off as an annoying showoff. She was so tranparent and while I gave her a pass because she seemed to be trying to show us a lifestyle, she was also keeping everyone else down (as in Kelly’s up here and down there). Each year she showed more of her unpleasant and insecure personality and her jabs/manipulations were not for TV but were meant to really hurt the other wives and their families in real life. Her forced “honesty” at the last reunion made me wonder if she really could redeem herself…now she is surrounded by fan rejects (LuAnn and Kelly), trying to control viewers’ opinions and questions and firmly in the role of being a victim/misunderstood heroine. Her apologies are not accepted because they are not sincere and no one will turn their backs on her or trust that she is telling them the truth.
    Jill’s sights are set on Alex. IMO, Alex and Simon accepting her apology is one necessary for the show – Bravo is setting Jill up for everything she deserves.

  18. California35 says:

    BRAVO Lynn!!!

    Can I add an answer to Jill’s questions?

    One of George Washington’s mottos “Deeds not words”

  19. Mum says:

    I want to know what Jill involvement in Alex’s leaving his hotel job.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Mum–I think it was over some sexy pic’s of Alex taken at the hotel.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        and Simon being a falling down drunk….but the photos at the hotel got Jill alot of mileage.

        • Nancy says:

          If these pictures of Alex WEREN’T taken at Simon’s hotel they should have brought legal charges against her for slander.

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            and how much air time would they have gotten of they did that?

            IMHO Simon and Alex are keeping their eyes on the prize: as much exposure as possible = make as much money as possible to secure their future and The Chum’s education.

          • PJ says:

            I doubt that Alex and Simon took pictures at the hotel; my guess is that Jill made the hotel part up. If you remember Alex blogged about this last season after the finale; Alex exposed Jill for what she really is. Alex said Jill goes after people and she fights dirty trying to get them to get them to lose their job. Remember the pictures of Alex were released without the permission of Alex or Simon.

          • LynnNChicago says:

            I don’t think that they are allowed to sue castmates (or Bravo or Shed Media) over anything said on the show. I heard once that it is in their contract that they waive any rights to sue.
            They say this is the only way that they can ensure the women will say whatever they want to without fear of being sued.

            The comment that Jill made about Simon being a drunk didn’t seem to affect his job at all because he worked there over a year after that happened.

            When Jill made the comment about the photos, the only response that Alex disputed was the “spread eagle” part, she didn’t dispute what Jill said about WHERE the photos were taken.

            I think that the photos were taken in the hotel and I think that the hotel had had enough of reality nonsense and asked Simon to resign. (this is all speculation) allegedly.

            • PJ says:

              I don’t remember Alex specifying that it was the spread eagle part she was referring to. I thought she was disputing where the pictures were taken as well as that. Of course since most viewers probably didn’t see the pictures Jill could say what she wanted and hope no one would know the difference. But if the pictures were never meant to be made public I guess it wouldn’t really matter where they were taken.

              It would be a shame if Simon lost his job over the show since it doesn’t seem to have been filmed at the hotel at all. It would be a bigger shame if Jill succeeded in getting anyone fired from their job, I think it’s horrible for her to try to do that.

            • Powell says:

              That makes since because I always thought that B should have sued Kelly for saying B tried to kill her.

            • Damnert says:

              The pictures of Alex were brought up in two different Reunions without Jill having issues at all.

              The last reunion, she had nada against Alex so THEN she throws the photos up in her face as being “disgusting” ?

              She’s as whacko as Kelly.

              Alex, I love. Simon, is wishy washy (on the show). I think he says one thing and his actions show another.

              This feeling comes, in no way, from the disagreement he and I had over the @kikilet account. I do respect the fact that he addressed me on the issue, and he seems to address any tweeter that tweets to him.

              He could have ignored and blocked, like over half the HW (koff) Stars I’ve addressed.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Who eats while putting their makeup on much less having someone else put their makeup on? Who holds a farty, ill mannered, fugly dog on their lap while they are getting their makeup done and eating? Jill doesn’t understand that her “realness” is just more fodder for the snark canons!

  20. boston02127 says:

    I must have recorded the date about 9 times today. When I just read Lynn’s April fool’s post my mind started racing & I was thinking “don’t fall for it Lynn”.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      lol, when Lynn said all expenses paid by Jill – gotta be April Fool’s prank.

  21. boston02127 says:

    After watching parts of the rerun of NY yesterday I found another thing that I hate about Jill.

    When Kelly arrived thirty minutes late to the meeting for Creaky Joints and was told Ally suffers with arthritis and Kelly said “cute”. Then continued to say she doesn’t lend her name to anything (like her name matters). If that were my loved one that was sick and somebody acted like that, I’d never forgive that person or ever let that person in my life.
    Jill has to be pathetically desperate for anyone to be her friend to allow the moron know as Kelly in her life.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ironically, Kelly, who is the mother of the year, dismissed Ally’s illness – not just to the committee but to Ally who was sitting there. Why? Because Kelly’s name, which is actually her exhusband’s name, means more than anything else. And Jill didn’t say a word in defense of her daughter’s feelings or how inappropriate Kelly’s behavior and words truly were! They deserve each other and I can’t wait for Kelly’s brain to go zzzzzpt! and she turns on Jill.

    • boston02127 says:

      sp–known as kelly

    • Nancy says:

      To quote Bethenny…
      “I’ve seen Chinese take-out menu’s with Kelly’s name on them.”
      She is a riot. I love her.

    • Nancy says:

      How many times yesterday did we see Kelly arrive late only to leave early?
      That’s what drug addict’s do. Trust me on this.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh- Mrs. Zarin is keeping track of those little snubs believe me.

  22. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet~~~
    chiefs first birthday is coming up. send me your favorite doggie birthday cake ideas, the best one will win and be invited to chief’s birthday party
    Start baking those cakes ladies, you could be the grand prize winner! Just think, one whole fun filled day with Kelly and dogfood.

  23. error404 says:

    From the little we’ve seen, I suspect that Bawby brings out Jill’s better side, but since these are really shows about girlfriends and not marriages, we don’t see too much of that relationship.

    Jill was at her most likable s2 when she was friends with Bethenny. B openly makes fun of everyone right to their face. Alex and Simon seem to have gotten this right from the get go and never held a grudge. LuAnn OTOH just can’t get over it. She’ll go to her grave insensed that B dared to poke fun at “the countess”. Jill to her credit readily laughed at herself when B openly mocked her right to her face. It was a rare glimpse of humility and “realness” for Jill. As much as Jill has always from s1 been a petty yenta, she has also changed. Her entire appearance has changed, and she’s much more full of herself now that her popularity grew. She very much is an example of an average person who really let fame turn their head IMHO.

    That being said, Jill is a 2nd wife and not the mother of Bawby’s kids. Right from s1 she has always been like a kept woman, asking for permission to every spenditure, coaxing her kid to butter Bawby up for more $$, deferring to his decisions, trying to keep him sweet, etc… If they replay s1, pay close attention to the whole fat camp/ private plane storyline. She’s a gold-digging trophy wife. The only difference between her and someone like Gretchen, is a MILFBarbie bod. And believe me, these women work for every penny. I don’t care how nice he’s suppose to be, the idea of giving greasy Bawby a bj makes me want to commit suicide! I’ll buy my own goddamn diamond bracelet thank you very much!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill acts like a mistress with all the gory details! Bawby also seemed to be very busy or disappearing during that season as well….business, yes, but what kind? He may be hoping she lands something good so he can get rid of her while losing less of his empire.

    • boston02127 says:

      I agree error. But at what point does Bobby get sick of it? How can anyone live with someone day in and day out that’s all about themself?

    • quincyil says:

      rotfl…. Those last two sentences are a hoot.

      Bobby seems ok. Jill is probably a Barbie to him. He has a collection of Playboy magazines in his mother’s basement. A long time ago, I read an article that said that Jill didn’t let Bobby have anything until the giant ring was on her finger. I think their game is an exchange of jewelry for sexual favors and they aren’t afraid to share that on national tv.

      • Adgirl says:

        I think Bobby really loves Jill. I’ll bet she is a lot like his mother, whom I’ll bet 100 dreidels is a huge JAP.

      • Nancy says:

        Remember the night that the “Countess” spent the night in Jill’s guest room? Jill came in and LuAnn said how pretty her night gown was. Jill responded with “Oh don’t tell that to Bobby because I usually wear sweat’s to bed.

  24. quincyil says:

    Harvey sent me the links to the photos that I saw of Alex and Simon in the real newspaper that I purchased in the Orlando airport yesterday morning. I don’t think we get the NYTimes out here. I have never seen one for sale and I don’t know anyone who get one in the mail.



  25. Miss Katherine says:

    you know, i can’t believe i actually forgot about kelly’s arrest for domestic violence. i still can’t believe bravo dared to let her back following that. if a guy had beaten a woman, no way would they be welcomed back with open arms–just look at chris brown. but the whole situation has gone ignored, by kelly, by andy, by the other castmates, and largely, by the viewers. it’s disgusting how she wants to speak about bullying yet roughed up a boyfriend.

    season 2 luann was pretty likable. yeah, i rolled my eyes at some of the countess stuff, but i still think she’s a good mom. it was pretty haunting to see that whole confrontation at ramona’s party where she said “Jill only likes you, bethenny, because you’re the underdog.” at the time i laughed it off as one of ramona’s crazy ramblings, but it’s so true. season 2 reminded me of things i liked about jill, though i can see signs that i originally missed of what was to come.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I know…Ramona seems like the real Soothsayer of the Housewives doesn’t she?

      • Miss Katherine says:

        basically she’s reading the leaves at the bottom of that glass of pino grigio 😀

    • Nancy says:

      Kelly didn’t win that battle the case was thrown out because her “boyfriend” didn’t show up. I can’t blame him. I wonder how long they were together? We’ve had the “honor” of having Kelly in our lives now for 2 or 3 yrs now and she hasn’t been in a relationship with anyone. No Max does not count as he was “banging” Sonia.
      While watching all the Housewives series I have to admit my life is pretty good. I could be living Kelly’s life, Jill’s life, LuAnn’s life blah blah blah I’m not sure if I would change places with any of them. Not even Bethenny’s. But I had to think long and hard on that one. ha ha

      • dsc60 says:

        i thought she had to do community service because of it? i remember her mentioning something like that at the reunion… she said “something good came out of it” talking about the community service.

    • error404 says:

      Ha! I know I’m suppose to be horrified by the comparison, but they could have picked better photos. From a style viewpoint, she’s 1oo% improved. In the 2006 photos, her hair looks like she just woke up and the dress looks like something a hooker would wear to a halloween party! In 2011 her hair and dress are probably the best I’ve ever seen her look!

      • 2Stupid says:

        The one that is supposed to be 5 years ago (fashion aside) she looks in her 20’s. A little bit of weight can keep you looking younger. That is why I am VERY youthful- LOL.

    • vilzvet says:

      Lots of interesting comments on the linked articles, I have to go back now and read the one referencing Kelly saying B “exploited her father’s death” on twitter. Puhleeze.

    • Nancy says:

      I’m taking a risk here but I think Bethenny is anorexic hands down. She has been in the past which she admits to. When an anorexic feels their life is out of control (which Bethenny’s is right now) they have to hold on to control any way which they can. Hence-her weight. I’m worried about her.

      • VAgirl says:

        Nancy, I’m no expert, but I do not think B is anorexic. Most times anorexics can hardly force themselves to take even a bite or two of food. I’ve seen B eat more than that at one time, even though she admits she never finishes anything (in her first book I believe). Ido think she does not want to lose control of her weight, though and takes it to the extreme. She needs to gain about 10-15 lbs. She looks haggard. I’d be glad to give her some of mine. LOL

        • Nancy says:

          One of the sign’s of anorexic is when ones head looks way to big for their body frame. Go back a take a look at Bethenny. Yes we see Bethenny eating (a lot) but she only has 1 or 2 bites. It really doesn’t matter what got her to this weight (or lack of) something is doing it and must be addressed. It will hurt her book sales big time.
          As we say in therapy Bethenny’s insides are not matching her outsides. She needs to practice what she preaches.

    • VAgirl says:

      Boston, I saw Vera Wang on Chelsea Lately last night and you want to see skinny? She’s had a couple of kids and I swear she made Chelsea look huge in comparison. Her thighs were skinnier than my forearms.

    • Dawn says:

      I don’t think Bethenny appears too thin. I must be in the minority.

  26. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Hey Gang! Well, my self imposed absense has paid off. I am officially a graduate and a registered AMA certified medical coder/biller/admin expert! LOL!

    Two things from taking the day to relax with the marathon yesterday.
    1. How much do you love Mario for slamming the obvious in Jill’s face when he says to her (and I quote) ” your 15 minutes of fame have really gone to your head and you are acting ridiculous” “the world really does NOT revolve around Jill Zarin” and “Then take your toys and go home, we will survive!” Really, Mario—LOVE IT!

    2. Kelly saying about B. “We are so different that we could never be friends. And really she should know that because we are so similar that she should get that.” Wow. Just Wow.

    • LavaLady says:

      Congrats Dutchess. And #2. I have to echo you, Wow, just Wow.

      • HD says:

        Congrats, Dutchess. As for point 2 HILARIOUS! Also when she said something like, “we are the same we both have the same color” or something like that and everyone looked at her like she was crazy and she looked down at her hair to see what color it was. I am convinced for real that Kelly has some type of mental problem.

        • LavaLady says:

          HD, I was so curious about this moment of the S2 reunion that I went back to bravo.com and found it in the video clips. So funny when Kelly says to Bethenny, “You’re a brunette and I’m a blonde” Every one there yells out at Kelly”You’re a blonde????” And then Kelly looks at her hair and say, “well, whatever”
          One of the best reunion moments ever. Thanks for reminding me.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      congrats duchess! I have missed you!

    • boston02127 says:

      Congrats Duchess!!!! I’m very happy for you.

    • quincyil says:

      Congrats…. that isn’t an easy task to accomplish.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Congrats and may your career flourish and satisfy! As for Kelly ever making sense – wow, just wow….

    • Nancy says:


    • California35 says:

      Congratulations Duchess!!!

    • Kansas Girl says:

      You commented on the two parts I tuned in for! Loved that Mario nailed her, and he did it several times. And Kelly is just one contradiction after the next. I noticed that during the you’re-down-there conversation, she also said very distinctly that she would not lower herself to Bethenney’s level — and I remember that in the reunion she said the up and down could also be right/left. Clearly that was damage control!

      Congrats on the certification! My cousin did this several years back and it’s opened many doors to her. She now manages a large medical office at a really nice salary. Your job search will be easy now — pick who you want to work with.

    • Mimisfbay says:

      Hey Congrats!!!

    • VAgirl says:

      Congratulations, Duchess. Well done! I agree with you that watching Mario put Jill in her place was very enjoyable. YES! And Kelly, Wow, just wow.

      • vilzvet says:

        Great news! The medical field is the place to be, especially in this economy. I hope it’s bombproof.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Well done. Great field to be in.

  27. boston02127 says:

    Got to go dance. I don’t look at it as work anymore. When I walk in the door I picture a hugh neon sign that reads “birth control”!!!!!!! TTYL.. 🙂

  28. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill sees what others have and wants it instead of seeing what she has and appreciating it. She will never be happy and jealousy never looks nice.

  29. California35 says:

    Hi HD!!

    Thanks for your responce to my comment from last night. I think it was a GREAT idea!!! I am sorry I missed. By the time I saw it, it was 10:30 my time.

    How did you do on the contest? I was away and late to vote I think – I hope you win. Please let me know if I can still vote for you. I saw one of your videos and I LOVED it 🙂

    • California35 says:

      HD…sorry i just read that you have to wait until the ceremony….good luck to you!!!

  30. Olive the Other Reindeer says:

    In that stream that Jill has (I could only watch a little bit eek),,,Giggy better watch out,,Jill will have an all out hate campaign on Giggy. Poor Ginger,,,she looks like she’s so afraid of her mistress,,can’t say as I blame her. I used to be ….really could not wait until RHNY would start,,,now it’s eh,,ok…I’ll tune in or dvr it.
    I have a question,,,if a show is taped,,as in Tivo or DVR,,do their ratings still count,,I don’t know how ratingts are collected…

    Lisa of New England,,,I love the Housewives,,,if she says one thing desparaging against the great Jill ( and it could be something so small that no one would think twice about ) .Look out,,this chick should NOT be on Reality TV…what a fake…she had to be the favored one growing up..and her sister probably had to relinquish to the little princress…

    I am so happy for Bethenny,,as I said before,,she did it on her own,,she had no Bobby,,,,or as in any other HW franchise… a rich man to back her,,,I think that is why Jill is so jealous,,,well one of the reasons…
    Hold on folks ,,we are in for a bumpy ride…lol

    • LavaLady says:

      I love your name. One of the best Christmas shows ever. I’m confused, is Lisa from New England Jill’s sister pretending to be someone else, or is it a known fact that it is Jill’s sister, or is it just someone with the same name as Jill’s sister?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I’ve wondered if it was Jill’s sister or someone that Jill set up to run a love blog.

      • Olive the Other Reindeer says:

        thank you(for the name compliment I had a another name and was my special Christmas name,,,okok,,i’m lazy..lol)
        wow I never thought of that…her being Lisa….but then again,,I fell and have a concussion..lol Oh whoa to me..lol

      • error404 says:

        was it a show? I only knew it as a book.

  31. Zoey says:

    I’m sorry, but regardless of what JZ is saying or doing on her thingy, U Stream instantly makes me think about urine! I guess it’s the nurse in me. YOUR STREAM as in urine output is so not appealing….

  32. Nancy says:

    I just looked at Jill’s U-Stream and under the comments one asked…
    Have U and Bethenny buried the ax?
    Have you seen her baby yet?
    Obviously Jill has left these up for a reason, I’m just not sure why.
    Can you help?

  33. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill seems to be waiting for the other shoe to drop from Bravo. First her announcement that she will have her own blog where she controls access and content approval. Now her testing her UStream chats and announcing she will be live during Bravo shows (what if she gives plot points away before they are actually shown?) that interfer with their chats/talk bubbles. This smells like she is trying to get ahead of something that will further damage her image/fan base. What did she do? And does she instinctively know that this season’s performance is the end of her housewives career?

    • California35 says:

      It is too bad that no one is supposed to talk about the show until the after the episodes air on TV. There is so much that might be going on right now and while they were filming, and I am not only talking about the actual episodes but behind cameras. Why is Jill doing this UStream? What does Bravo think of this?

  34. California35 says:

    I keep wondering WHY is Kelly back? No matter how I see it, she is not interesting and when she has more camera time she is CRAZZZYYY!!! We know for SURE that she will be back; she is still in the pictures and in the previews. Now I am wondering, could it be that she will be only on very few episodes? Or will she be only at the beginning of the season? Or is Bravo simply hoping for another Scary Island moment?
    I also wonder if maybe she is on the right medication now, and she will have an “assistant” that will take care of her on the set.

    Wondering California 😛

  35. vilzvet says:

    Regarding Bethenny and her thinness, if I go to her talk and signing tonight I plan on taking a pic so we can get a current idea. The weather has cleared up so waiting outside will not be a bad factor. I do think that hundreds of people will be there.

    • California35 says:

      Hi V!

      That’s tonight?! I had forgoten! I am so glad you are going!! 🙂


    • Lavalady says:

      Have a great time, Vilzvet. Can’t wait to hear your report back.

      • vilzvet says:

        I think I will go. My mom may go with me. Then my old classmate has a gallery opening a couple of miles away, so maybe I can do both. I will take pics of course and try to hook up with plainviewsue on the line, LOL.
        Oooh, they’re rerunning Inside the Actors Studio right now with Bradley Cooper, when he cried alot. We now know his father died soon after this.

  36. Linda says:

    Does any of this matter anymore? I read that
    NY, NJ, and OC were not renewed, only BH and Atlanta…and of course Bethany’s show?
    Bet that is why Jill is acting so ridiculously desperate.
    Does anyone know???

    • California35 says:

      I was wondering about Jill’s reason for the Ustream and how does Bravo feel about that. Like others said, she is taking viewers to her Ustream at the time of the NYHW. How can Bravo like this? Now taht you reminded me….if the show will not come back, she DOESN’T care. She can’t loose her job or the chance to come back. She is not coming back regardless. AH!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill constantly calls RHNY her show and has shown us that she doesn’t care what Bravo wants or does. She is still peddling that moldy old book…Kelly isn’t the only one with a wonky take on reality.

    • 2Stupid says:

      I think those are just shows that have been renewed for a certain portion of the year. Top Chef wasn’t even on that list just Just Deserts. Also on Andy’s blog he talked about Jeff Lewis’s new show, but said Flipping out would be coming back later in the year and it also wasn’t on the list. I think it is just the shows airing through summer and maybe fall? Thoughts anyone else…..

      • dsc60 says:

        i agree… there are too many shows that i just can’t see being cancelled not on the list. it’s obviously a partial list for some reason and when, i.e. spring, summer, it’s airing might be it.

    • I think she wants her own show and the U-stream videos are her audition. I’m sure she will get a lot of offers from networks after they watch her videos. We all know that Jill is a hot commodity. LOL

  37. HD says:

    Okay….I just saw B at the Bravo event. Ya’ll are gonna kill me but Bethanny looks a hot mess! Look at her face!!! I cannot believe that is Bethanny. Is that a bad photo?! I don’t mind a skinny girl but she looks bad. I don’t think it is aneroxia or anything but she doesn’t look good physically. I don’t give a damn what brand she is promoting.

    • California35 says:

      I won’t kill you lol

      You seem concern about her and there must be a reason. She does seem skinny to me, but I am not and I am used to seeing her that skinny. I hope she makes sure to take care of her self. I don’t want to think that she is over doing her weight control. I also hope she isn’t sick from too much work and not enough rest.

      Here hoping that she takes care of herself more from now on.

      • HD says:

        Thanks for not killing me, California and I am going to go a step further and say (you can kill me for this) Jason needs to man up and tell his wife nooooooooooooooooo on some things. That is the beauty of having a loving spouse. So they can stop you when you want to go, go, go. I get it. I do. She is busy. She is striking while the iron is hot. I am one of the FIRST people to say, “I’ll sleep when I die.” I get it. But when you start looking that bad about the face you need someone that loves you to tell you to GET IN THE BED! Even God rested on the 7th day! Sheesh! Jason better step up or I am telling you that woman is going to hit a wall and there will be serious burnout!

        • California35 says:

          lol I am still not killing you lol

          I agree…I love Bethenny and that she is making a brand/business in a HUGE way…but I also want her to take care of herself and her family. It must be though, I am sure. I think she is trying, but might be falling on some areas like her nutrition and her sleep. She needs to keep going while she is still relevant and growing, and she might be planning to at some point..STOP…at least the rushing around, and enjoy some rest. That is what I keep thinking and hoping for her. That she will reach her goal, whatever that might be, and then take it slow.
          Now – please don’t kill me for agreeing with you but still standing by her 🙂 —

          She can say “no” or “later” to some things, and maybe she is, but not enough…or she is afraid that if she says no, she will lose her chance. Maybe that is why she complains and cries, because she knows she is not able to handle or balance her work/family/me time. She does seem to be struggling.

          It is funny how much she is busy when others (Jill, Kelly) have so much time on their hands.

        • California35 says:

          Oh and yes 🙂 her loved ones should be able to tell her to slow down, or help her slow down. Jason, please do 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bethenny is skinny and over extending herself to the point that she looks exhausted. She never seems to slow down. I get tired just watching her show!

  38. Olive the Other Reindeer says:

    she has been spreading herself way too thin,,,Jason does need to tell her no,,
    can u believeit’s been a year already that they’ve been married?,,,,He is just right for her

  39. dsc60 says:

    just watched Bethenny on Wendy Williams. she was great! she also said yes, she will be watching RH0NY whenever she can. gotta love her. jill won’t even entertain a question about bethenny and her show. they are such polar opposites which for bethenny that’s a GREAT thing!

    • California35 says:

      I am recording that one…then I can see her how she looks today…

      • Olive the Other Reindeer says:

        Bethenny was great on Lopez,,,she had the best story about an engagement ring that she put on ebay andfound out it was being sold on the street for 10k and it’s worth was 30k..she took things in her own hands,,long story short,,got them busted and it was Russian jewelry cartel! Only Bethenny..lol

  40. Zoey says:

    Lawd help me…I am going to go and watch a bit of JZ’s urine stream to see what it’s about. Yes, I am bored.
    Then later I am going to eat some yummy bawled crawfish!!! Delish! Happy Friday all!

  41. VAgirl says:

    By the way, I bought B’s book today at Barnes and Noble in Norfolk, VA and there were only four left on the shelf. All the other best sellers had plenty left. I hope her book does well.

    • California35 says:

      YAY! that is a good sign 🙂

      Tell me what you think of the book. I only read the first two pages so far…I hope I get to read more this weekend.

  42. Adgirl says:

    I just can’t see Kelly acting so cray this season. It was all about her hysterical competitive jealousy of Bethenny. Kelly hated Bethenny because she is sexy & smart.

    Cindy VagWax is certainly no rival. Bravo should have brought in another former model to make Kelly nuts.

    • Zoey says:

      Hm, interesting. Is this Cindy gal single? Kelly seems to hate successful, single women.

      • California35 says:

        I think she is. Single who has small children (twins).

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        there was a rumor she is gay?

        no idea.

        I like her apt. though. I hope she doesn’t go the way of the other forgotten housewife…whatsername

    • Adgirl says:

      From the pix I’ve seen Cindy is not all that pretty. I think Kelly has to be The Pretty One with Fashionable Friends. Bethenny was overlapping into her territory.

    • error404 says:

      I agree and disagree. Kiki says all sorts of lunatic babble, most of which is shockingly rude. B was the only one who would call her out on her bs to her face, because somehow she never got the NYC memo: rule #1 never ever ever confront a lunatic, look a lunatic in the eye, or suggest that a lunatic is anything but completely sane. Sonja knew. Kiki would say all sorts of weird rude crazy shit to Sonja and Sonja would nod and smile and make “crazy” motion with her finger next to her head when Kiki wasn’t looking. Jill and LuAnn laugh in Kiki’s face on regular basis, call her a child, say all sorts of mean things while giggling, but crazy doesn’t notice. That’s because she’s too busy knowing for a fact that Bethenny admitted to attacking her children in the press. Kiki’s kids also openly make fun of her right to her face and she pretends they said the opposite of what they just said. Kiki makes her own reality and lord help the girl who comes between her and her alternate world. Like all crazy people, she’s unpredictable and anyone who doesn’t sleep with one eye open around her is a fool.

      • error404 says:

        I also think it cuts both ways. With just the two articles B’s mom did after Bryn was born, I think B’s mom is just like Kelly. It explains why B would actually look the psycho in face and say “Put down the chainsaw, we all know you don’t have the guts to murder us” while everyone else just giggles and says “Oh Kelly, you’re like a child”. Why else would B almost go out of her way to call Kiki out on her craziness?

  43. Error404 says:

    Anyone waiting for Jason to “man up” better bring along a sleeping bag and some extra undies because it is going to be a looooong wait! J is a people pleaser. Look at the way he is with his family and friends. The guy wouldn’t know the word “no” if it stole money from him. B wears the balls in that family and everytime she “mans up” and set boundaries with people he whines and stresses and freaks out at the idea that someone won’t think Of him as mr nice guy, good old jas. Just look at the way he handled the Baptist baptism that wasn’t a baptism, but just looked smelled and tasted like a baptism! Don’t get me wrong. If married a millionaire I’d let her wear the pants too. And this is just my opinion, but anyone who thinks b should stop doing so many gigs where she gets paid shut loads of money to do very little because her 15 minutes is now, just so jas can have more time playing at being a regular guy with a generic 9 to 5 job is crazy! They’ll be living off this years earning for the rest of thief lives. The real question is when’s he going to get real and be a stay at home dad.

    • Nancy says:

      His full time job should be to get Bethenny to eat!

      • error404 says:

        LOL well yeah, I’m sure J is thinking of maybe someday possibly getting B to eat, but he’s just waiting for the right moment when she’s in a good mood and won’t snap or think him pushy or maybe he’ll wait until she asks his opinion and then he’ll tell her. He wouldn’t want anyone mad at him. lol

      • HD says:

        LOL! Okay!

    • California35 says:

      Very good 🙂

      I agree with the others that she needs to take care of her self, but I do understand that she is going and going and going right now because she has to get as much juice out of this. Now when she is HOT, now that she is still building the business. To me it seems like she is doing GREAT and she already build her business, but she is still in the early stages. I am sure she made a lot of money already, but she is still in the process and she can build the empire bigger so that eventually her business will make money even when she is not working. I read somewhere some time ago, that a business owner is not someone that is her/ own boss, that that is selp employed. Business owner is someone that has a business that makes money even when he/she is gone. I hope she gets there soon, and those around her support her and help her make her life easy while she is still focus on her business.

  44. Error404 says:

    Milan Breton from proj runway says alex is his muse and he has designed a new dress just for her called “thug in a cocktail dress” lol

  45. Cusi77 says:

    Hello Lynn! Hello everyone!

    I told my hubby about Lynn’s joke this morning. He found it very funny! I called him to work because I did not know tha today was a day of jokes!

    In Mexico is the 28 of December: El dia de los inocentes. That day I am prepared, but today I was in absolute SHOCK! My Lynn befriends with Jill Zarin! For the life of me that I almost fainted!

    Good one Lynn!

  46. quincyil says:

    I had to stop watching OC. What happened to Tamra? She has absolutely gone bonkers with the sex stuff. I think she is doing all this to tick off Simon Barney. She really freaked out Vicki and Vicki is wild.

    • error404 says:

      I agree with whom ever said it here before: it’s both. A. she doing it to rub it in Simon’s face and B. she’s being more her true self because “controlling” Simon is no longer there to talk her out of it. I just hope Simon IS watching and thanking his lucky stars to be well shod of the evil cow.

      • Nancy says:

        I sort of like Tamera. Am I missing something?

        • error404 says:

          I admit it’s a snap judgement based on 20 minutes of one episode I once saw. Everything I have read about them since has only cemented it though.

          There was a wedding and all of the RHofOC were going. Tam was getting ready and comes out of the bathroom looking like what a 16 year old crackhead hooker would consider “too slutty”. She point blank asks Simon his opinion, and when he says she could tone it down a little, she freaks out and throws a tantrum a 5 year old would call immature. In the limo ride to the wedding she’s ranting and raging like a lunatic the whole way and then suddenly announces in front of tv cameras that she’s divorcing her husband.

          Yup, she’s a class act our Tamra.

        • HD says:

          @ Nancy-I like Tamara too.

  47. Jezzibel says:

    hehe…ebil cow

  48. floridagirl88 says:

    I nearly fell out of my chair when I got this Facebook update:

    So let’s a wait a week and see who’s selling the most shapers, Sqweez or Skinnygirl Shapers. Jill has got to be bawling her eyes out on this one. Bethenny has to laughing all the way to the bank.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      it’s a nice site- and completely matches her branding

    • Mimisfbay says:

      So cute! I love that when you click on the color the garment changes to the color you click. Great price point too! She knows her market and is a very smart cookie, no pun intended. har. Thanks for posting this link.

  49. AZ Girl says:

    Watching the re-runs of Season 2 and Jill at the Zang Toi salon trying on dresses. The camera keep panning over to his assistants (two young girls of Asian decent) and the look on their faces are priceless. You can see the “bubble” above their heads like a cartoon with the inscription “You large not model size” Every time Jill was able to fit into something it looked like Zang Toi was relieved. Not that Jill is fat but she is NOT a size -0-. Jill was a bull in a china shop.

    • Nancy says:

      How funny. I was thinking the same thing!!

      • error404 says:

        OMG Nancy, did you see that Adam Rippon has left Orser now too?! I wonder what’s going on over there.

        • AZ Girl says:

          O.k. who is Adam and what is Orser?

          • error404 says:

            sorry, totally OT. Adam is a skater and Brian Orser was his famous coach. Nancy had asked me yesterday what I thought about the most recent OGM YuNa Kim leaving Orser, and now today another skater has left him too.

            • AZ Girl says:

              Got it. Thanks

            • Nancy says:

              I hadn’t heard that but I’m not surprised.
              In the world of figure skating one is either a west coast skater or an east coast skater
              (And that includes the Toronto area)with one exception being Colorado Springs.
              Gossip pretty much stays were you are.
              When I skated people stayed with one coach not jumping around like they do today. Why has it changed? MONEY!
              It’s a business now worth millions. Once a coach has brought a skater to the Olympics (and wins) everyone wants to change coaches. Look at Sasha Cohen
              She changed 4 times. Now amateur skaters can make a lot of money before they turn pro. (I was born too early)
              We couldn’t make a penny or our amateur status was taken away from us.
              Now, sky’s the limit. I was paid well from Holiday On Ice buts it’s nothing compared to what they make now.
              Believe me my father reminded me of that often. ha ha. I’m so glad I have a skating buddy.

          • Nancy says:

            AZ Girl,
            That was funny. Thanks I needed that.

  50. floridagirl88 says:

    Skinnygirl Personal Training?

  51. @tweatcyn says:


  52. AZ Girl says:

    I have been thinking about HWOOC and how they are different from the other franchises. My conclusion is the desperation that is so obvious in OC housewives behavior.
    For mainly financial reasons, Tamara, Vicki, Gretchen, Alexis they are really desperate for money, fame, and film time. It was not that way in Season 1. All the housewives were friends. They moved in the same circles. Over the years the chemistry changed. OC needs to be shut down. It is really disturbing to watch these women fight over how much time they get on film, how much they drink, how much they have sex. Enough.

    I don’t get that vibe from NY, Atlanta, or DC. With Jersey yes with Theresa and keeping Joe out of jail 🙂 .

    • VAgirl says:

      HD and Nancy. Youv’e both said you like Tamra. I am curious as to what you both like about her.

      AZ I have to say ALL the housewives are vying for screentime and fame. I think what makes the OC wives different is that all of them (except maybe Vicki) are very afraid of getting old and losing their meal tickets so they hang onto their youth through their actions and plastic surgery because they really have nothing else going for them. I think they (even Gretchen) look at finding and holding on to a rich man as their main goals. I’m not saying this very well, am I?

      • Nancy says:

        Why I like Tamera. Excluding this season I saw a mother trying to hold on to her son while Simon did everything he could to not let that happen. Yes Ryan was a pain in the #$@& but you never make your spouse choose between the two. Her younger kid’s looked well taken care of. When money got tight I saw a woman go back to work and take care of 3 kid’s and a house. I saw Tamera confront Gretchen for her awful behavior re: her “fiance” Jeff. I saw a very unhappy wife that tried to hold on to a abusive marriage for the sake of her kids. Simon has major control and anger issues. I’m not saying being married to Tamera would always be a walk in the park but I do think she’s a good person.
        I can’t blame her for the way she treated Vicki because she was afraid of Simon. Simon had such a hold on her and because of all of the above I think she’s gone a little “crazy” this season.
        I for one am giving her a pass.

        • California35 says:

          Nancy you brought good points about Tamra. I saw what you saw last season. Mom to older son and the little kids, wife, friend, back to work. It is sad that she was also trying to be hot and this season is going over board. I have seen woman who when married are in similar situations, they are not free at all, they are owned by their husbands in a way. The husband calls the shots and the moment the wife acts in a way the husband doesn’t like, they get punish some how. They start acting like their husbands and even criticizing other woman even if secretly they wish they were as free. Then something happens when they finally have enough OR the husband dumps them, and the wife just goes wild. Some more than others…later some find a middle ground where they act free but reasonably, and find peace…but others don’t. That is what I saw in Tamra when she was still married but kept going at Gretchen, and now that SHE is so wild and free.

          • Nancy says:

            I’m a little confused. What did Tamera do that was out of line when she was still with Simon. Sure she went to a lot of parties and wanted to look “hot” but they were Bravo parties so they shouldn’t have been this big surprise when filming started. I never saw her flirt with other men or do something that was sooooo wrong. Did you?
            Yes I think she drank too much, but they all did.
            On a personal note none on them would be in my “fabulous circle of people”. Thats for sure.

            • Nancy says:

              Part 2. Tamera kept going after Gretchen because she was being dishonest. She did have a boyfriend on the side. In my opinion Gretchen & Slade deserve each other. Yes Tamera is all out there but she is no longer with Simon so I don’t get the comparison.

            • California35 says:

              I said that I saw what you saw. I didn’t say anything about her being bad last season. The only thing was the issue she had with Gretchen. Other than that it was all about her family. He on the other hand, will bring up that she should dress like a mother or stuff like that. She mentioned and acted like Simon was controlling, and I actually thought that about Simon. Now that she is “wild” I am thinking she is just letting it out and enjoying her freedom. I am not agreeing or disagreeing about the fact that she is wild now because I am not watching this season. I saw parts of the commercials and I have read here that she is out of control, but again I have not seen it.

              • Nancy says:

                I’m sorry, I misunderstood. In your last sentence I thought you were putting Gretchen and Tamera in the same boat. My mistake.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Good point – OC is so superficial – looks/sex/party theme and they are all like 15 years late to that party! The cast photos from the Bravo Upfront party were like before (OC) and after (BH) – and the OC couldn’t even afford real shoes!

      • HD says:

        Quite honestly I have always liked all the women. I think Tamara is taking a little bit too much heat. It is like no one has sex around here. She is newly single and banging a younger Latin man who obvious knows how to put it down. I would be talking about it too! She is discussing sex with her girlfriend. Maybe me and my girlfriend are crazy but we DO talk about sex. I just don’t see what the big deal is. It’s just sex with two consensual adults. And she is talking about sex with a good friend. What is the big issue? No one has ever had sex before or discussed sex stuff with their good/best friend?

        Also as for the body shot, give me a break. I don’t know. Maybe its just me. I have been to places and done things on vacation. That sometimes it the beauty of a vacation-you do things you may not normally do at home. Hence the slogan-what happens in Vegas STAYS in Vegas. If what I said was true then the slogan would not have been universal and work so well. Because EVERYONE (exaggeration but you know what I mean) does things on vacation they do not necessarily do at home.

        The ONLY difference with Tamara is she has a camera following here. But I am not going to lie, if I had a camera following me around 24/7 I would NEVER live up to some of the standards I have seen here. I have sex, I just got some pierced BELOW the neck (AGAIN), I have 4 tattoos, I have never had a body shot but shoot I might put it on my bucket list. I just feel like Tamara is not committing murder. She is having sex and come on ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the housewives knock em back so lets not try to pretend Tamara is a bigger lush than say Ramona who drinks constantly, went on a hooters boat and kissed another man before renewing her wedding vows.

        I understand having standards, I have them, but some things are just not a big deal to me. WE ALL GOT HERE BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS HITTIN’ IT and some body shots MAY have been involved. LOL!

        Just my thoughts!

        • HD says:

          I meant “If what I said WASN’T true”

        • Adgirl says:

          Ewww. Gross. My parents would never do that!!

        • VAgirl says:

          Thanks Nancy and HD for answering me. I’m a little disapointed in Tamra myself, but I don’t think she’s that much worse than any of the other OC housewives.
          I don’t think she’s dumb, but she has her priorities all screwed up if you ask me.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          You know what HD, I’m a little offended by some of your comments.

          *Yes, I believe consenting sex between two adults is OK.
          *Yes, I believe that what happens on vacation should stay on vacation as long as it’s not breaking any laws.
          *I have no problem with sometimes having long, graphic sex talks with my girlfriends.
          * Yes, Tamara has every right to her sexuality BUT IMHO she is being deliberately provocative to get airtime. It smacks of a frantic type of desperation , and I for one find it very, very, unattractive.

          Like Quincy, I turned the channel when she was going on about her “pretty kitty” or whatevs.

          You’re insinuating that it is because I’ve gotta problem with sex or talking about sex. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

          I do have a problem with an attractive woman acting like the town pump in order to get attention. It’s just not necessary.

          Look at Sonia. She’s getting plenty o’action, and we don’t hear her talking about her vagina. Thankfully.

          My parents had sex. My parents also defecated. Sorry, don’t want to hear about either act.

          • Nancy says:

            We don’t hear Sonia talking about sex?
            Are you kidding me? Did you not hear & see the preview’s to season 4? A quote from Sonia…
            “I just need a man to fuck me” On TV mind you.
            Halloween “costume” Bending over exposing her behind and laughing about it? Having as affair with Max every Thursday night? Scary Island sex talk? I could go on and on. All Sonia talks about is sex. Ar we watching the same show? I totally agree with you that Tamera is over the top right now. I think she could use some therapy right now to be honest with you.
            Needless to say this must be horrible for her children but remember Sonia has a daughter that’s in Jr High. None of this is good. Do you really believe the “What happens on vacation should stay on vacation”? Does that include affairs? I’m confused.

          • Nancy says:

            Now I’m confused. All Sonia does is talk about sex. In the previews she says…”I just need a man to fuck me” On tv. Then we have the Halloween part where she bends over exposing her behind.
            Scary Island sex talk. Are we watching the same show? Do you really feel the “What happens on vacation should stay on vacation”? Does that include having affairs? I agree with you that Tamera is over top right now. I think she needs some therapy right now badly. She has children to think about but Sonia also has a teenager as well. Except for Bethenny (and not completely though) the Housewives series has affected these women in a horrible way.
            I hope Braovo is proud.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              Nancy- don’t be ridiculous.

              HD said “Because EVERYONE (exaggeration but you know what I mean) does things on vacation they do not necessarily do at home. ” and I was agreeing with her on that point.

              I do not agree, however, that we all behave like Tamara, and that if we don’t it means we don’t like sex and are uptight.

              As far as Sonia is concerned- Go back and re read my comments.

              I specifically said “Look at Sonia. She’s getting plenty o’action, and we don’t hear her talking about her vagina. Thankfully.”

              I don’t care about talking about sex but talking about how loose your vagina is, IMHO is crossing the line and is in bad taste.

              I hope I have cleared up your confusion.

  53. Adgirl says:

    I don’t hate Tamra. I do really dislike Gretchen Pagenthead because I do not think she is a nice person.
    The Naked Wasted incident all started when Gretchen’s boyfriend called Tamra in the middle of the night and outed her for dating him while Jeff was sick. Tamra was trying to expose Gretchen by getting her drunk. The entire thing was juvenile, dangerous and rather gross.

    Altogether the OC women are shallow, desperate, self center and worst of all ignorant.

    Watching OC I am reminded why it’s important to read books and travel to countries that don’t have palm trees.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Simon Barney might not have been the ogre that Tamra claimed he was. All husbands want to have influence over their wives. I hated that when I first got married, but I realized that how I behave does affect my husband.

      I read a ton of articles on Tamra and Simon not long ago. Simon seems to have lost his job because of Tamra and the show. The rumor is the wife of the car dealership had some issues with Simon taking the show to the dealership. I believe that he also gave a job to this step son at one point. There were claims that Simon flirted with female customers, but being in sales he might have been doing that to sell the cars too.

      You have to think about the impact of the reality show on your kids. Their lives are altered because of the decision of the mother to share everything on national TV.

      The Bravo stars have celebrity without accomplishing anything other than opening up their personal lives to the public. It’s a very odd thing.

      Gretchen in an article said that Tamra and she get along well when there is no camera. When the camera turns on, Tamra takes her claws out and goes on the attack. Gretchen calls it. “camera balls.” I bet this is true. We see Gretchen reacting to things that might have been building up in the period that they were filmed and edited to look like Gretchen reacted out of the blue.

      I am not defending Gretchen. I am just pointing out that they are different on camera. I think they are desperate for their fifteen minutes of fame. They don’t have a plan B and this is their chance for fortune.

      Tamra pointed out that Alexis’s clothing line was a joke. Alexis was attempting to use the fame to get fortune. All Bravo celebrities do that. Tamra should do something too. Perhaps, she is going after the young lawyer for the money she needs in the future. Thus, all of the ” soulmate” talk. Maybe, husband number three will be rich.

      • Powell says:

        In my opinion if these Housewives don’t take this opportunity to do something positive that will make them money, then I think they would be crazy. This is really the only time they will be relevant and they need all the help they can get. They need to use this so called fame.

  54. Mimisfbay says:

    HD, I don’t know what time zone you are in…did you win?????

    • VAgirl says:

      hd won’t know until tomorrow when its announced at the ceremony or whatever. i hope she wins

  55. VAgirl says:

    good night all. it’s 1 am here,

  56. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~

  57. quincyil says:

    Are there no men in OC? Gretchen has real worries about marrying Slade who has no money and owes a lot of money in child support should he ever get a job. She wants a lease. I think she should never marry someone unless she feels this is someone she can count on for the long haul.

    Gretchen is attractive. She should be able to meet someone with potential. Perhaps, she could represent Match.com and find some men on that site.

    • VAgirl says:

      Or maybe be one of the cattle call girls on Stanger’s show and snag her a millionaire that way. I’m sure she’d get picked although she might be a little too old. They all seem to want 20-somethings.

  58. Olive the Other Reindeer says:

    I just watched some clips of RHNY,,,Alex signs with a modeling agency,,you all may already know this,,but I just saw it,,O-M-G..this will drive Jill over the edge if Alex’s modeling career takes off,,then there was a clip of Kelly making sand angels,,and Jill saying she was sane,,hmm,,,don’t see a PHD after your name Jill…Also,,Alex confronting Kelly of what she sees as reality,,,,,ok ok,,I’m getting more excited about it,,,pfffft
    I didn’t know Simon had lost his job,,,whatis he doing for income?

  59. TLM says:

    I guess the NYC women besides Ramona came up with a solution for getting attention. Rather than renew their vows, they’re going to marry each other. http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/review–real-housewives-of-new-york-city-47-2011293

    Everyone’s favorite idiot is wearing purple Converse sneakers. Perfect.

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