IHJZ Top Chef All Stars Reunion / Top Chef Masters

Top Chef  All Stars Reunion April 6, 2011

Richard Blaise winning Top Chef All Stars – $200,000.
Mike Isabella winning the Quick Fire using Richard’s dish – $5,000.
Argument between Tom Colicchio and Elia Aboumrad – Priceless

Bravo knows how to bring the drama, Elia even asked Andy Cohen, “do you really want to talk about this now?”  DUH!  Elia, have you met Andy Cohen?  Of course he wants to talk about it, he’s the creator of the Housewives series, remember?

Ok where the heck was Anthony Bourdain?  He is listed as a permanent judge of Top Chef All Stars and he was only on maybe half a dozen shows, very frustrating!

I enjoyed some of the montage scenes that Bravo put together but it was extremely frustrating because the music that they played to go along with the scenes was so loud you could barely hear what was being said.  Add to that the laughter of the chefs and judges could be heard in the background and it was pretty insane sound editing.  Whoever edited those pieces for sound should be fired!

I particularly enjoyed the Sesame Street characters making fun of Padma, luckily they put captions on the screen so we knew what was being said.

The montage scenes of the judges was pretty good, it is nice to see them crack a smile occasionally and cracking jokes here and there.  Bourdain really has the best one liners and Padma falling asleep at judges table was pretty funny, someone had to remind her that they’re making TV here to wake her up.

Everyone congratulated Richard again on his win and seeing that final scene was awesome, mostly seeing Mike’s reaction to losing and Richard saying the only part he remembers is being in Padma’s arms.  I’m sure his wife who just gave birth was happy to hear that.  We learned that Gail had to be convinced to give Richard the win, she really was taken over by Mike’s Pepperoni sauce.

I like that these contestants all seem to sincerely like each other, they have respect for their fellow chefs.

We re-lived Jennifer Carroll’s extremely embarrassing departure, her comments in front of the judges and even in the stew room were ridiculous.  “Welcome to Jen All Stars”, Really?  Jen was let off the hook by Gail Simmons who actually thanked her for being angry and unprofessional.  What was Gail thinking?

Another great montage was Angelo and his sense of style, such as it is, and how very attractive he is, even his cast mates commented on Angelo’s looks, particularly Dale which was pretty funny.  I don’t think Tiffany D or Stephen said anything at all, Marcel said very little which was a treat for everyone!

We all watched as Richard promised Mikey some money if he won.  They talked about it on Watch What Happens Live last week, apparently there was talk of  Richard investing in Mike’s restaurant, but Mike says “all the stock is gone”.  But the two have built a lifelong friendship.  Awww

Andy announced that many fans were outraged with one chef whose heart wasn’t in the game.  A montage of Jamie and her fellow chef’s announcing that she hasn’t cooked anything, she continues to defend leaving when she cut her finger.  We see the usual sweet and kind, Casey saying “what the hell?  Really?”  Tre said “Jamie skated by” and Spike tells us that Jamie is  hiding under the table cloth.  There is no way to know what would have happened if the judges sent Jamie home for not offering any dish at the challenge but Spike had to go instead of Jamie.  Jamie claims she hasn’t watched the show at all.

Andy asks the chefs if any of them would be willing to return for a third shot at the Top Chef title and practically all of them raise their hand.
Another great montage was Antonia as the cursed woman, they call her “The Black Hammer” as all of her teammates seem to get eliminated, even if you happen to get assigned to bunk with Antonia in the same room, you’re in danger of going home.

Antonia talked about feeding children and children’s menu’s in restaurants that make her angry, I wasn’t sure what she was trying to say but it didn’t make a whole lot of sense and she got a lot of eye roll’s over that comment.

Dale T was asked if he finally bought his girlfriend that ring he promised her if he won some money, Dale explains that he’s got it all picked out and ready but that he is still waiting on the check.  Andy seems annoyed that Dale told the world he hasn’t gotten his winnings yet and snaps, “Alright you’ll get it”

Padma had a few strange moments, she has always insisted in the past that she plays no favorites with the contestants yet a fan sent in a question when they noticed she seemed noticeably upset when she had to send Tre home, “is Tre your favorite Padma?”  Padma admitted that she has a sweet spot for Tre.  (get in line lady!)  She also said she hates sending anyone home, saying, “Pack your knives” is worst part of her job.

Andy asked Gail which of the Chef’s she would go on a date with and while she was sure to mention that she’s married, she chose Spike.  When Padma was asked the same question, she actually said Casey or Elia, then made a bit of a crude remark about Antonia.  Is Padma trying to tell us that she is a lesbian?

Tom Colicchio was asked about his favorite dishes of the season, he had clearly thought about it in advance as his response was ready, his three were prepared by Carla, Richard and Mike.

Elia Elia Elia, I think she made the comments in anger, I think she was annoyed at being the first to be eliminated and had been waiting months to talk to the press.  Elia admitted to going to Tom Colicchio’s restaurant in Las Vegas twice to be sure she was correct, even talked to one of the chef’s in the kitchen and learned that Craft Restaurant serves only corn fed beef.  Tom defended his restaurant and told Elia that she made it personal, he was also sure to announce that the decision to send Elia packing was unanimous among the judges.

Dale L chimed in to try to bail Elia out a bit by reiterating that a chef of Tom’s caliber is held to a higher standard and they questioned Tom’s decision to film a Diet Coke commercial.  Tom defended that by stating he not only drinks Diet Coke but he sells it in his restaurant, just as many of the contestants do in their restaurants.  Tom also got in a bit of a slam by noting that he has eaten in many of the contestants restaurants but refrains from making any comments about his experiences.  It sounded a bit like a threat to me, almost like he was saying, keep slamming me and I’ll spill the beans about how bad all of your restaurant’s are!  I’d love to hear those comments!

During the exchange between Elia and Tom, Jen Carroll was nodding her head in agreement with Elia and Dale seemed to support her as well.  Finally Andy asked Elia if she stands by her earlier comments to the press and before she answers Casey said, “You don’t have to comment on that” but it was too late, Elia said she stood behind her comments.  Tom Colicchio doesn’t look happy and neither does Andy.  I don’t think we’ll see Elia in any future Top Chef competitions or any Bravo show for that matter.

Top Chef All Stars Fan Favorite Carla Hall ended the show with a montage of her antics, she is pretty funny.  And a final Hootie-Hoo from Carla won all the chef’s a Top Chef Fleece jacket (of course its available on Bravotv.com)  Andy’s always selling!

Reports about the Bravo commercial shoot are coming out and an “insider”  (read Jill Zarin) commented that Padma was less than friendly to the Housewives.  Well she is an Emmy nominee and her show has won an Emmy, maybe she didn’t want the Housewives getting on her little daughter.  You can read more about it here:

Padma Lakshmi Snubs Some Real Housewives — Can You Blame Her? http://t.co/Aplv6zH via @The_Stir

Top Chef Masters:

I have to admit I was very disappointed with Top Chef Masters.  Shame on me maybe but I have never heard of any of these contestants.
The quick fire was a bit strange, two mystery boxes, two chefs and both ingredients need to be in both chef’s dishes.  We got canned corned beef and marshmallows for one team, Chicken liver and popcorn for another.  You get the idea.

Three of the chefs did not put up a dish at all because they did not finish in the 20-minute time frame allowed.

Another disappointment was throwing Restaurant Wars at the chef’s on the very first night of competition.  I think it is better to let viewers get to know these chefs before they really get into this team dynamic that happens during Restaurant Wars. It was really anti-climatic

I will continue to watch and write about Top Chef Masters, I’m hoping to be able to get into it more than I did last night.

A Chef named Hugh Acheson went home last night, and Naomi Pomeroy won with her dessert of chocolate cake.

It is a shame because in the past on Masters we’ve seen chefs like Art Smith, Rick Bayless and Tony Mantuano.  Reading the bio’s about this season’s Master’s isn’t all that impressive, in fact they could really be just regular Top Chef contestants as most of their resume’s read no better than some that we’ve seen on Top Chef.

I much prefer Curtis Stone as host to Kelly Choi who had hosted in the past.  Let’s hope it improves.

The Real Housewives of New York – FINALLY!

Tonight is the premier of The Real Housewives of New York, originally promised to viewers by Bravo two months ago, I hope Bravo is going to deliver and make it worth the wait.

All day today Bravo is running last season’s episodes, I’m sure Jill Zarin is thrilled as she keeps saying she wants everyone to forget last season and let her start fresh.  Bravo is determined to remind us just how awful Jill was last season.  Thanks Bravo!

Jill Zarin tweeted a photo of herself in her new shapewear asking if she should wear it on WWHL tonight.  YES Jill, please wear it, copying Bethenny always suited you well.


Yes, Jill will be appearing on Watch What Happens Live tonight along with cast mate Ramona Singer.  I’ll be watching what happens.

A recent quote from Jill Zarin:

“If she could, and you gave her an eraser, [Bethenny] would erase ‘Housewives’ off her résumé.
I’m proud to be a ‘Real Housewife.’ … I would never be less than proud of doing something
I chose to do. And certainly,
for her, it built her brand and career, so for her to want to make that all go away, you know, kind of hurts all the girls who are left there. We all feel the same way.”

Jill Zarin, in one fell swoop told us how Bethenny feels about being an Ex-Real Housewife (how the hell does she know, she hasn’t talked to Bethenny since last year’s reunion) and she is making assumptions then finally tells us that she speaks for ALL of the other housewives.  Seriously Jill Zarin?

Jill just can’t help herself, she continues to slam Alex in the press:

‘Real Housewives Of New York’ Preview: Jill Zarin Not Happy With Alex McCord! Watch! http://t.co/ljkcRnC via @HollywoodLife

More Bravo previews narrated by Ramona Singer:


Alex’s quote, “Thug In A Cocktail Dress” is now available on a t-shirt…so cute!  Fifty percent of the proceeds go to charity, you can view the t-shirt here:


I hope Bravo continues to send their preview video’s to The New York Daily News and not to the bloggers who actually watch the shows, this one bit them in the ass…


Until Next Time..

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424 Responses to IHJZ Top Chef All Stars Reunion / Top Chef Masters

  1. marcy says:

    kookoo NEVA BEENSOMEONE is a tranny

    • jillzeee says:

      hawhawahwawaw ooooppsss why am I laughing???

      next year ill be a no one tooooooo


  2. sonia nomoneee says:

    me tooooo

  3. error404 says:

    “Richard Blaise winning Top Chef All Stars – $20,000.”

    Wait! What!?! Is this true?!? The Donald hands out $25,000 checks to charity on every single episode of CA, but these poor slobs work their asses off for months and only get $20,000 in the end? Shocking! I thought the $100,000 PR winners got to open their own business was low! There’s no way someone could open a restaurant in a major city on $20k. Wow! Did you mean $200,000?

  4. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Congratulations Again Lynn & Q on IHJZ Blogs~YOU ROCK! 🙂
    Didn’t see top chef but will. Am looking forward to tonight too.

  5. VAgirl says:

    Thanks for the blog, Lynn! I enjoyed the reunion show for TCAS, but like you, was a little disappointed in TCM. I was glad about the chef that won since he is a colon cancer survivor. That was personal to me since I lost my brother to that. Can’t wait for tonight and HWNY. It’s been a long time coming and I hope it’s worth the wait. May be lacking in comparison to yours and Quincy’s version. You’ve spoiled us.

    • quincyil says:

      There will be a blog on the weekends that you might want to catch. It will be like our story, but it will be based on the actual bravo show. In the beginning, Lynn is going to be the Greek Chorus. We will listen to the board readers for more ideas. We can all become the Greek Chorus now that Bethenny is gone. I think that everyone here will have fun and enjoy creating one liners for the blog. It’s called interactive TV and interactive blogging. rotfl…

  6. WindyCityWondering says:

    Loved the reunion – it was fun to see them relaxed and joking around with each other and the judges. It went by too quickly and it would have been fun to hear more about what each has gone on to do after the show.
    Top Chef Masters was disappointing as most of the chefs are unknown to us – some looked familiar from Food Network competition shows. That quickfire “basket” challenge was an episode of FN’s “Chopped”, minus two ingredients. And the Restaurant Wars was a surprise – ITA, its better when you know the chefs better (and they know each other better) because there is more conflict, ego throwing and strategies/alliances. Curtis Stone is an interesting host – hoping he loosens up because he can be pretty funny – he is definately easy on the eyes!

  7. error404 says:


    Ouch! My God, you couldn’t have asked for a worse review if Andy had run over their puppy! Seriously, why is anyone “looking forward” to tonight?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh dear.

      Because we’re gluttons for punishment?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      No I am not looking forward to it – I was but now I am not! Bad reviews were expected so there is no surprise there. And with today’s marathon of last season on….knowing Scary Island is coming…it will be very hard to be open minded about RHNY san Bethenny!

  8. MK Valle says:

    I have to disagree with you about the contestants for Top Chef Masters. While many of them are unknown to the masses (meaning, they aren’t on TV so they aren’t “celebrity chefs”) the vast majority of them are multiple award winners and well known in the food world. Celina Tio did compete on The Next Iron Chef’s last season and went pretty far but she’s the only one I recognize from TV.

    • error404 says:

      Thanks. Your comment inspired me to go read their bios. Aldea is the only one i’d been to (it was excellent!) and Tabla the only one I’d heard of although I never went. I would have to say, BPC really could use a good restaurant.

      • JKW says:

        Until the previous chefs were on as judges on Top Chef or another show…I didn’t know any of them either….or at least some of them. However, most of the previous judges have been on so much that you do get to know them. It will be nice to know a new group.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      de Jardin was also on Iron Chef

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I agree they are multiple award winners but so are the contestants on the “regular” Top Chef series, that’s all I’m saying. This group, with a few exceptions, are simply Top Chef contestants.

  9. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Alex’s skin looked like shit in that article- very clogged with slight adult acne and old acne scarring, probably from the heavy makeup she has to wear for the camera.

    She needs 12 micros, one every other week STAT.

    If she goes to Cindy Not Barstop’s place, they need to double pass on her jawline, and if her skin can handle it 3x around her mouth. It will clear up any slight adult acne and even out the rough texture of her skin.

    (m’kay Simon?-and Simon if you got them, you could give up the goatee- it will even out your skin too-just saying-as a friend.)

    • quincyil says:

      I think he had botox in his forehead recently. In some photos, there are deep wrinkles, now his forehead is taught. His under eye circles look better too.

  10. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Another earthquake just hit Japan! 😦

  11. OneMoreInBoston says:


    “If the people have no bread, let them eat cake — and bring in the TV cameras, please. When it comes to chronicling the excess of luxury Manhattan lifestyles, nobody does it quite like “The Real Housewives of New York City.” And clad in an ornate blue-and-white costume gown she actually owns, Sonja Morgan looks every bit the part of a modern-day Marie Antoinette. It’s a comparison that Morgan, the newest breakout star of “Real Housewives,” which has its Season 4 premiere tonight, unabashedly owns. “Sure, file Chapter 11. I have $19 million in shoes. Let them eat cake!” she riffs, referring to the high-profile court case that led her to file for bankruptcy late last year, which will play a role in this season of the series.
    Sonja Morgan certainly has a head for the dramatic. Here, she’s wearing her own Marie Antoinette dress, which was embellished by Chris March from “Project Runway” and appears during an episode of “The Real Housewives of New York” this season.

    “That’s a joke. I’m the cheapest girl. I cook in a toaster oven. I’ve never spent any money I don’t have. But I’m a rich bitch, so I got sued because I have money. I do love Marie Antoinette. I love her sexiness, and she’s very much in line with what people would think of me.”

    The ill-fated French queen might sympathize with the stunning 47-year-old Morgan, a former restaurant consultant and model and the ex-wife of John A. Morgan, 80, a descendent of J. P. Morgan. Lawyers called her divorce, which was finalized in 2008, a “Perelman,” a reference to Ron Perelman’s infamous split from Ellen Barkin — and she says she was simply overpowered. “The ‘Perelman’ is, ‘Good luck in your divorce because I have cash flow and you don’t, and I’m going to out-lawyer you,’ ” she explains.

    In her bankruptcy petition, she listed $19.8 million in debt — which includes money tied up in items like her ex-husband’s mortgage on a private island — and $13.5 million in assets. In addition to the divorce, she blames her money problems on a $7 million judgment she’s now appealing involving a failed movie project. The film, called “Fast Flash to Bang Time,” was set to star John Travolta until the deal fell apart because his involvement was disputed, and Morgan got sued.

    Like many old-money businessmen, her ex avoids the press, while she embraces her newfound reality-show fame, even as she hides her 10-year-old daughter, Quincy, from the cameras. Here, she exclusively shares with The Post the never-before-told story of how she became a modern Marie Antoinette.

    POST: You feel a connection to the famous historical figure?

    MORGAN: I feel like I have aristocratic looks from my family. Which is why I never had a nose job — because I have that big nose, chicken lips, you know?

    Before your ex-husband, who were some of your past boyfriends?
    [John] McEnroe, Prince Albert, and there were some Billy Idol days and there was. . . you know, I had a nice time. Dating is a strong word for some people. I mean, if you see me out to dinner with Charlie Rose, it doesn’t mean I’m hitting that, you know? But I’ve been known to date Charlie, luckily. Along with the other hundreds of girls. He is wonderful.

    Tell me about your ex-husband.

    I knew him for seven years. We married in ’98, and I was dating younger, wealthier guys that probably you would think, like, why didn’t you go for them? But he was relentless . . . and when he asked me out on a dinner date, finally, after he sent me a letter and flowers and chocolates, I said, “OK, let’s go to dinner.” After the dinner, he proposed. He really loved me. He was perfect.

    After the first date? You had never slept with him?

    Absolutely. Sweetie, he was much older. I don’t see why you would want it any other way. This wasn’t a 20-something-year-old guy. I said, after dinner, “You’ve always loved me, really? Really? Really?” And he said, “Yeah.” I go, “What are you going to do, marry me?” And he goes, “Yes.” And then we talked about what kind of diamonds, and he said he had two sons, and I said, “No problem.”

    He’s 33 years older.

    Age was never a thing for me. He was a good husband, and he was a great lover. It was an excellent marriage, and you wouldn’t believe the story if I told you why it went wrong. And here I am, and that’s why I’m on a reality-TV show. Because otherwise, why would I?

    Why did you marry him?

    When you marry an older gentleman, it’s not just for emotional support. It’s because you’ve got a daddy complex. He’s 80, and I’m 47. But you know, in lady years, 47 is ancient.

    What went wrong?

    There were some people I shouldn’t have trusted. And now I’m fending for myself — that’s the hard thing. It’s been a learning curve for me . . . I’m a care-giver. I’m a hostess. I like to take care of people. I need a rock. And don’t get me wrong, the rock needs me.

    You say you identify with Marie Antoinette, and she was known to be promiscuous.

    She was known to be a flirt, and she used her powers in love — and that always excites me. I know people always have a perception of me as being excessive because of my last name and because I am a glamour puss and I will dress up, and I want to wear the best I can afford at the time. But also because I’m on “The Real Housewives of New York City,” and that’s what people want to see. They want to see the hats and the shoes and the cars, and that’s what we give them. The other thing I notice on these reality shows: You can be as crazy as you want. Crazy as a bat. You can, like, throw furniture and look certifiable and you still get paid for appearances.

    You made a remark on the show that you knew Ramona when she was crazier.

    Much crazier. You think she’s crazy now? You have no idea.

    Do you regard yourself as a gold digger?

    No, because I’ve worked for everything I have. I’ll tell you, old-money families, they don’t marry you and just give it to you. This isn’t nouveau riche. This isn’t, “Oh, I made it overnight, so I’ll give you half of it.” This isn’t Hollywood money: “Oh, I made a movie for 50, so I’ll give Camille 40” . . . Old money is, like, they can’t sleep at night, freaking out, like, “How the hell did this come to me? How am I going to hang onto it? And now I got this wife. She works her ass off. She’s smart as hell. She doesn’t spend any of my money. She’s got nice legs. She can make a flower arrangement herself. She does her own makeup and hair. She feeds the dogs herself. She cleans the kitty litter and she’s going to make a good mother.” Damn straight he’s going to marry me! What would he marry: some trophy girl who’s never been to the candy store? It’s a big job. It takes nine months to redo a yacht. It took me two years to do this home to the standards.

    What does your mother think of the show?

    I think she’s, um, not happy that my marriage isn’t where it should be right now.

    Your marriage doesn’t exist. You’re divorced!

    She is sad that it’s not where it should be. I should be lady of the manor, sitting in my homes that I built. To have it all taken away, it’s just so shocking. But I don’t expect anyone to feel sorry for me. I have my health . . . I have my strength. I’m a survivor.

    What do you think people can learn from you?

    I think anyone can do what I’ve done. Make the kind of contacts I’ve made. Take a summer off and go to Europe. Meet the kind of people that I met. Do a little modeling even though you’re only 5-foot-61/2. Do a little acting, even though you can’t act. Date a little royalty, even though you don’t know which fork to use. You know, everybody can do that.

    And what’s next for you?

    Well, filing Chapter 11 means they may not get one penny. And I’m back where I started. Just down a few legal fees. In the next six to eight months, hopefully we’ll have a follow-up interview, and I can say . . . “Let everyone have cake!”

    • ramoaner says:

      what a loser she belongs with those other no life idiots

      banging 20 yr old guys

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      oh this is fun.

      A troll impersonating Housewives talking to each other. I guess in someone’s imagination this was funny.

      • quincyil says:

        It is sad.

        • vilzvet says:

          Her daughter’s name is Quincy, quincy! I don’t think we ever knew that…she keeps her way out of the limelight.

          • quincyil says:

            The little girl has an ancestor with that surname.
            Abigail Adams is a famous woman in history. She was born on November 11, 1744. Her parents were William and Elizabeth Quincy Smith.

            The Quincy family founded Quincy, Ma.

            Quincy, IL was named after John Quincy Adams. We live in Adams County, IL.

      • Zoey says:

        Thanks for explaining the weird posts omib, I thought I was on the wrong blog for a minute! What psychos.

    • viki55 says:

      Sonya sure does seem full of herself. I thought she was more down to earth last season but looks like things have changed. It reminds me of what Bethenny said to Jill about her being totally affected by the fame & the glamor and how she used to be a nice girl from Long Island. Do you think Sonya has changed or is the real her just coming out?

      I also don’t find the housewives troll funny. I like it when we keep things real.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sonja needed better PR – a 47 years old and trying to give that 20 something vibe is sad.

  12. quincyil says:

    I looked at Kelly’s wikipedia account and it is amazingly accurate and up to date.

    The informatin about the Playboy photos and her inconsistencies about the time the photos were take are there.

    Kelly has lied and covered up a lot of what they show us on the show. We are not stupid and we can see the truth. Kelly gets away with lies and fabrications because she was beautiful decades ago. I think she looks great in some of those early photos, but we all have photos from that past that we really can’t use today.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      do you have a link?

      • quincyil says:


        Her court trial, her behavior on Scary Island and information that the Playboy photos were old photos is there.

        I guess Kelly’s PR department believes in the truth.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          The scary island writeup is very strange. Maybe it was written by Kelly.

          “She famously created the climax at the end of Season 3, which was captured on camera in the episode, Sun, Sand and Psychosis. During this episode, which was filmed in St. John, USVI, Bensimon responded to pop- up aggression from co-stars Bethenny Frankel and Alex McCord, and made hilarious statements that Frankel was trying to kill her and that McCord looked “a vampire” in previous scenes where she wore black eyeliner and behaved oddly. At one point during a dinner with the cast in St. John, she was shouting in response to Bethanny Frankel that she was acting like “Al Sharpton!”
          Bensimon left the island in the am after leaving thank you notes. She filmed three days later. Bensimon later mocked the nervous breakdown, saying she instead had a “nervous breakthrough”. On the three-part reunion for Season 3, Bensimon claimed she had no intention to vacation with the Housewives and was forced to go on the trip by Bravo. Bravo Executive President Andy Cohen stated on that same reunion show that Bensimon was never forced to go to St. John. “

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      As the lies are exposed and the layers are peeled back off of Kelly we will see her react by becoming more incoherent and difficult to interact with. Kelly chose to go with the toxic team – not a wise choice for a weak personality!

    • Noreen says:

      If you read the notes section in Wikipedia, you can see where Kelly’s attorneys or PR people tried to get Wiki to modify her bio. I read it last year. I hope it is still there.

    • error404 says:

      LOL, well by that logic, Holland should be totally underwater and states like Az and Fl unlivable year round.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        true- but I thought it was really cool- like Warnings from the Ancients! (said in a deep radio announcer voice)

        Although it sounded as though this recent tsunami washed some of these warnings away- so even the ancients got their sh*t wrong.

  13. error404 says:

    Ok… that was just bizzare!

    It was sorta a lot of words saying nothing. What went wrong with her marriage, and why is she broke? If he was so nice, why did he screw her out of a good alimony?

    and the comparison to M-A was a mistake. All of her selling points : being young, naive, from a privledged royal background, scape goated because she was a foreigner, etc… don’t apply to Sonja, so all we’re left with is M-A faults.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      agreed. this was a stupid PR move.

      he screwed out of alimony because he accused her of running a bordello out of the townhouse in the divorce papers. Seems like there is some bad, bad blood there.

      Of course she’s also the mother of his child-so not a very nice man IMHO.

    • quincyil says:

      When we did research just a while ago, she was getting spousal support, not alimony. Her bankruptcy was to clear her debt load before the mother load of a settlement was bestowed.

      I really wanted to like her.

  14. IndianaHousewife says:

    Hi, long time reader – first time poster. Was just surfing around and found this picture. Anyone know who the extra housewife is? Sorry if this has already been discussed.

    • error404 says:

      “From revolutionizing hair removal with nationwide cult favorite Completely Bare spas and beauty products, to playing mom, Cindy Barshop’s glamorous life is an exercise in multi-tasking. The hair removal guru and happy single mother attributes her success to honesty, dedication and a belief that with enough hard work anything is possible. With so much on deck, Cindy still makes time for the things she loves: re-vamping her West Village condo, dining downtown, weekends in the Hamptons, and most of all, spending time with her twin girls.”

    • viki55 says:

      Are you talking about the new housewife, who isn’t married so not really a housewife, Cindy Barshop?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      welcome Indiana Housewife!

      I looked and didn’t see anyone new as it was an article about Sonja who was on last season? Who are you referring to?

  15. IndianaHousewife says:

    Thanks – I was looking in about the middle of the article, the person between Kelly and Alex. Isn’t Cindy over on the left by LuAnn?

  16. AZ Girl says:

    Loved the Top Chef All Star’s reunion. Glad they brought up Jen’s stupid behavior. You get to this level there is no need to act like a child. It is a competition and if you lose go with dignity.
    I personally am so glad that Antonia brought up the “children’s menu” comment. A large percentage of children in the US are obese. The reason being is that you can purchase a high fat, high caloric, high sodium children meal at a fast food restaurant for a $1.99 but a head of lettuce is $2.00. The children’s menus in “sit down” restaurants are even worse. Many items found on the children’s menus have a caloric count of 1000 with 50% of the calories being from fat. The portions are huge. Parents save money at the expense of their children’s health.

    • Zoey says:

      I agree, and at many casual restaurants all you can get on the kids menu is a grilled cheese, chicken fingers-usually fried, a burger or a hot dog. I have always, though not always successfully, taught my son to eat properly. He fought me for yeeeaaarrrs! I allowed him to indulge in soft drinks or candy on occasion, but that was a treat. Plus I wanted him to learn about food, and to enjoy food.

      If I had a nickel for every time I heard “We don’t have ANYTHING to drink in this house except water or juice!!!” I’d be loaded. It was exhausting at times, but well worth it. Now, he eats way healthier than I do! He’s introducing me to quinoa (sp?) and parsnips and all sorts of health info! He cooks for me all the time, and I love it.

  17. California35 says:

    Good morning,

    On that quote from Jill. Seriously agree with you, they have not talked and she is talking for the rest of the wives. We have not seen or read anything like that coming from B, if there was something people would be talking about it. Besides, I woudln’t be “proud” like Jill says she is. She made a full of herself and was doing things to affect other people on S3, she is proud of that? The other wives have a voice Jill, they can tell us if they feel the same way as you do. GOOD thing Bethenny is taking a vacation, there will be a lot of negativity around, that I am sure she is trying to avoid.

    S4 is finally tonight, if someone doesn’t change their mind about it and move it to another day.

    I can’t wait for Lynn’s blog, the comments and the interaction here. I think I am more excited about that then the actual NYHW at the moment.

    Have a lovely day,


    • Lavalady says:

      I was thinking the same thing, Ca, glad Bethenny is taking a much needed vacation with her little family, and not in NY for all this.

      • California35 says:

        Hi Lava – how are you?

        • Lavalady says:

          Good Ca, just cleaning house today. I’ll only get to see one episode of NY, tonight’s, and then I’ll miss the next two. I’m going to Germany with my husband to visit our daughter who is doing a semester abroad there. I’m hoping to tape them and watch when I return. I’ll miss this blog. Not sure what our internet situation will be there.

          • error404 says:

            where in Germany if you don’t mind me asking?

            • Lavalady says:

              Hi Error, don’t mind at all. She is studying in Berlin, at Humbolt University. In the US, she attends NYU and is an art history major. Hoping to travel around a bit. Maybe even to Venice.

              • error404 says:

                Berlin is a museum lover’s paradise, and there are many good restaurants. Spreewald is a really nice day-trip if you want to get out of the city. Have fun!

                • Lavalady says:

                  Thanks, Error. I’ll take any restaurant recommendations you have. I’ve never been to Europe so this is all new to me.

                  • error404 says:

                    Unfortunately I haven’t been in almost a decade, so who knows if the same places are still open. But Berlin is eclectic for a euro city with many good ethnic restaurants and lots of variety… Turkish, Mexican, etc..

                    • Lavalady says:

                      My daughter is a food adventurer for sure, my husband not so much. He is 100% German, so he can go his way and I’ll stick with her.

          • California35 says:

            Glad to hear you will be traveling 🙂 and the bonus to see your daughter.

            Have a great time and come back to tell us about it 😀

  18. IndianaHousewife says:

    Well you notice I didn’t say I was the sharpest tack in the drawer. Thanks I do not know how I missed that!

    • Lavalady says:

      Welcome Indiana – Her hair look longer; it is hard to recognize her. Are you watching tonight?

    • VAgirl says:

      Welcome Indiana from VA.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      She has changed her “look” – I had to look twice too!

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        Thank you all for the welcome. Yes I will be watching tonight. Staying up until 11:00pm always makes Friday morning so much fun. I know they show endless re-runs but for some reason I always stay up too late just so I will know what you all are talking about the next day. It’s an obsession, not sure if good or bad !

        • Lavalady says:

          I’m the same way, probably going to stay up, even thought I’m usually in bed by 10 and up at 6.

  19. VAgirl says:

    Oh, I fogot I have a question. I think I read somewhere where Luann got engaged last fall. Is that true? I know she’s dating Jack (Jaques, just said Jack because I knew it would irritate the Countess), but I didn’t know they were engaged. Maybe I misread?

    • VAgirl says:


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I saw the engaged LuAnn comment here – finding it somewhat surprising. Maybe he has money, cause the Countess knows that love don’t pay the bills and she sure needs that title she earned. Maybe it is a Bravo engagement.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        but she loses the title if she remarries, doesn’t she?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          yes she would lose the title if she remarried

          • Nancy says:

            Not per LuAnn. She said at the reunion she could keep a “curtsy” title.

            • Kukulet says:

              If she remarries, she can still keep the courtesy title of “Countess DeLesseps” but only if she chooses not to legally use her new husband’s surname-in the same way that some women keep their maiden name.

              If she takes the new hubby’s surname, she loses the title. And she knows this-so I’ll bet you money she doesn’t take the new hubby’s name.

  20. HD says:

    Why am I torturing myself watching these reruns? I can’t stand Jill and Luann is so proper yet listening in on phone conversations!

    • California35 says:

      Right? I turn it on while I was getting ready this morning and saw a bit again…ugh then I am all bothered by it….I keep wanting to watch to see if I missed something in between those stupid fights or bickering, but then I feel it is not worth it. Everything turns into an argument.

    • VAgirl says:

      Don’t tempt me, HD!

      • HD says:

        Don’t do it VAGirl! It will just piss you off all over again. But now I’m in to deep. LOL!

        • vilzvet says:

          Kelly’s greatest moments, tonight at 7!

        • VAgirl says:

          Too late! Oh no ……… I’ve been sucked into the vortex that is Season 3. My hubby will be so pleased when he comes in from grass-cutting!

          • HD says:

            LOL @ the vortex!!! I know!!! I have watched allllllllllll day! (I am off work so hey I can enjoy the day how I want right?) But Jill is killing me and Luann is not far behind!

            • HD says:

              My daughter just says, “is that, that woman you hate?” It’s taken over my family! Save us! I’m sinking fast into the abyss of I hate Jill Zarin!

              • California35 says:

                lol – I have to watch that in the bedroom and close the door — but even I am annoyed and bothered by it lol

                I am at work right now, so I know I won’t be tempted. I will wait until tonight episode.

            • VAgirl says:

              It’s crazy. The intensity doesn’t lessen no matter how many times I watch it. UH OH. The hubby just came into the house. Maybe I’d better look like I’m doing something WHILE I’m watching. Later!

  21. WindyCityWondering says:

    Well, watching RHNY last season is making me hate Jill Zarin more than ever. Knowing all she has said (real time) about Bethenny, she deserve all the nasty but honest crap flung her way.

    • HD says:

      Right! Everytime I see it I just hate her all over again!! That smug look on her face! Little did she know everything was going to blow up in her face!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        and that is the best part of it – she will get her’s in the end

      • Noreen says:

        That picture of her modelling her underwear! I wish James Cagney would slam a grapefruit in her face.

    • California35 says:

      I was thinking about that this morning, and thinking that she really thought she would get our sympathy. She wanted to give the idea that Bethenny was mean and who only used her. That she wasn’t there for her when she most needed her. HAA HAA too bad we didn’t buy it.

  22. WindyCityWondering says:

    This season was liars and lunatics – and even through Bethenny was taking a beating, she was the breath of fresh air that I needed to continue to watch the monsters that are Jill, LuAnn and Kelly!

  23. HD says:

    Can someone PLEASE buy Kelly some hair clips!

  24. Mimisfbay says:

    I really liked the reunion show last night even the cringe worthy moments with Elia. I hope that they continue these shows because we knew the chefs from prior seasons going in and came to like some of the most hated.

    The new show is, sadly, without chefs we all know from other shows. I know that I don’t know every award winning chef so I am okay with that. The first challenge was like a chopped episode and the preview with the bugs smack of our friend AB’s show. I really think that these are challenges not worthy of award winning chefs. Now, throwing them back into a kitchen? That alone is worth the price of admission. These chefs have kitchens with sous chefs and staff running around taking orders and wiping the sweat off their brows. I want to see them cook and do things with real food that I have never seen before. What is it that they do that they are granted Michelin stars? Disappointed but still want to watch. Well maybe not the bug episode.

    Looking forward to tonight, kinda. I will watch WWHL just to see JZ talking over RS and AC. The outfit in pic is funny she looks like she should be holding a whip and chair. Oh and I love that she has her hair in a BF ponytail. Ohhhhhh this should be fun.

  25. HD says:

    Here comes Luann-Captian Save A Housewife! She pisses me off. “We have a car waiting come on Jill.” Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • quincyil says:

      How can Jill Zarin take these memories from our minds?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill sees things very differently than we do – she comes from the place of “I am right” and we come from a place of “Who are you kidding?!”.

        • error404 says:

          yes! Jill has a very tenuous grip on reality.

          • Nancy says:

            I think you are right on with your “Jill’s herself is not exactly mentally healthy.” We all think she’s a royal bitch but I agree with you it’s much more than that. It doesn’t make me like her anymore but it does explain things. Sad to know that people like Jill never goes into therapy.

    • Nancy says:

      Yes and did you notice LuAnn stood there and had a long conversation bashing Ramona and kissing Jill’s ass? I thought you had a car waiting LuAnn?

  26. WindyCityWondering says:

    After every scene with Jill – IHJZ!
    Jill gets pissed every time someone cares about Bethenny – then counting, counting, counting all the nasty things she said or did – editing couldn’t find a nice thing to show about Jill! Bethenny’s mistake was wanting to fix a friendship with a hateful, toxic, two faced, needy bitch. In all honesty – Jill and LuAnn should be friends because they so deserve each other.

    • California35 says:

      Yeah, I couldn’t believe how Luann told B that she wasn’t there for her while she was going through the divorse….I was like uh? what? she was using the same lines as Jill. “you were not there for me”. WTH why was B supposed to be there for them? They were not besties for her to say that. Yes, it would have been nice if B had been “there” for her, but she didn’t HAVE to be there.

      • HD says:

        Right! Luann and B were not even that close so why would she be there for Luann during her divorce. Also according to what all the women were saying, she (Luann) had been sleeping around and so had her husband so they probably thought it was not that big of a deal.

        • error404 says:

          another reason many are on “team B” is because of how blindsided she seemed to be. Countless Lulu invited her to that bar in the Hamptons to pick a fight and have B pop-off at her on camera, so she could then point to it as proof of B’s horrible nature. Set up, and we all saw it.

          • Nancy says:

            Bethenny had to drive for 2 hours to meet LuAnn for that “lovely” drink.

            • California35 says:

              and PAY for the damn drinks lol ugh

              imagine if B stayed in that show, she would be the one being critized for snapping these lunatics lol

      • error404 says:

        it was a premeditated scheme to bring B down and ruin her reputation before her spin-off debuted. “team Jill” met before s3 began filming, compared notes, and came up with a unified strategy complete with talking points. Jill would love us to believe it was her emotions getting the best of her, but we hate her because we can see how calculating and pre-meditated it all was.

    • error404 says:

      B’s seemingly honest attempts at apologizing to a shrewish and unforgiving Zarin is what makes her a human being, and what cemented most viewers on “team Bethenny”. The scene of her crying downstairs by the car in the red coat was heartbreaking, and Jill need look no further than this scene to know why people bother to hate her. Jill is evil, but like the Salahis, too mentally ill to know that.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill is the center of her universe – if other’s don’t conform to the roles she assigns them then they are dealt with harshly. The e mail to Kelly for trying to have a truce with Bethenny. Alex trying to get Jill to see Bethenny could use a friend because of her father. Ramona trying to create a neutral place where the friendship could be put back on track. LuAnn knew the safest thing to do was kiss Jill’s ass.

        • Nancy says:

          LuAnn was worried that she was going to loose her
          new “Best friend.”

        • error404 says:

          I think Jill had her own nervous breakdown during s3, but it was overshadowed by Kiki’s more dramatic psychotic break in StJ. Feelings of jealousy, anger, betrayal, etc.. are “normal” but there is noting “normal” or healthy about the OTT calculated and systematic way Jill went about trying to destroy B. We are not watching a well woman.

      • mariareads says:

        You are so right error404. That scene where B is crying in the street and almost falling over if she hadn’t leaned on the car showed how deeply wounded she was and that she truly didn’t understand how or why this tiff had become WWIII. That cemented it for a lot of viewers because Jill was clearly reveling in her ugliness in front of Luann. Awful scene and the beginning of me having compassion for B.

  27. Kukulet says:

    Rewatching last season, this is other one I really don’t get-why was LuAnn so upset over Mario’s “Countless” remark?

    Listen, if my husband of sixteen years cheated on me with an Ethiopian princess, and then was so heartless and cowardly as to tell me that our marriage was over via email, and someone then referred to me as “Countless”, as in “free of his sorry beknighted ass”, I’d be more “Hell to the yes, baby” than offended.

    Get a grip, LuAnn, and consider “Countless” a compliment.

  28. WindyCityWondering says:

    Say we were just average viewers – no blogs, no internet research – just watchers of the RHNY – how on earth could Jill believe she was not shown as she thinks she really is as a person? She took Bethenny from under dog to dead dog! Then at the reunion she wanted only to reconcile with Bethenny, while throwing vile nasties at Alex the entire time. As an average viewer – how can Jill be seen as redeemable or even have fans with how she behaved this season?

    • error404 says:

      I think the reunion showed a true battle between Jill’s feelings and her rational mind. Her team of experts had convinced her she had to apologize and reconcile with B to redeem herself, and she put on a good show, and tried bravely salvage her image. But everything about Alex came straight from the heart and she was helpless to conceal who she really is whenever Alex opened her mouth.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Sitting there watching Jill spew hateful venom at Alex begs the question – who wants to be friends with someone like that?? IMO, she is of sound mind, she is just very, very insecure and naturally a mean, vindictive person.

        • Kukulet says:

          I totally agree, WCW. The part at the reunion that revealed the true Jill, to me, was the comments Jill made about Alex’s nude photos, and the horrible way she said them. That was so nasty…and untrue. Both Jill and LuAnn tried all season to put forth the idea that Alex’s pictures were somehow less tasteful than Kelly’s fake Playboy spread…and they weren’t. The pictures of Alex that popped up on the Internet were actually, as nudes go, beautifully done and far prettier than the ones Gilles took of Kelly.

          Jill is vile. I really doubt she’s going to change opinions this season, because her real self keeps shining through.

  29. Nancy says:

    Oh no, Big Bird is about to walk the runway. Aren’t there any migrations going on around now?

  30. VAgirl says:

    I’m back! Did y’all miss me?

  31. LynnNChicago says:

    ‘Real Housewives Of New York’ Preview: Jill Zarin Not Happy With Alex McCord! Watch! http://t.co/ljkcRnC via @HollywoodLife

    Jill just can’t stop being nasty, she’s changed my petoey!

    • error404 says:


      Hardly “must see tv!” LOL

      • quincyil says:

        HollywoodLife.com caught up with Jill and got the chance to ask her about her relationship with Alex during this season.

        “for the first time with the camera rolling.”

        It was straned and awkward,” Jill tells us. “I would say it’s [because] things that happened off-camera over the summer. There was just a lot of social media attacks on me and my family that I was not happy about. I definitely had anxiety seeing her again Could it be possible that Alex is jealous of Jill, who has achieved so much — launching her Skweez Couture Shapewear line, writing Secrets of a Jewish Mother and promoting her successful bedding line?

        “I think that anyone’s success is enviable and that it takes a lot of hard work,” Jill tells us. “But I have no doubt that Alex will find her path if that’s what she wants to do. I hope that she does.”

        Error404, look at paragraph number two…

        Season Four:

        There was just a lot of social media attacks on me and my family that I was not happy about. I definitely had anxiety seeing her again

        Jill let the cat out of the bag. She’s such a yenta.

        Think about: “There was just a lot of social media attacks”

        • Kukulet says:

          “Could it be possible that Alex is jealous of Jill, who has achieved so much — launching her Skweez Couture Shapewear line, writing Secrets of a Jewish Mother and promoting her successful bedding line?”

          Gosh, I wonder who planted that idea in the reporter’s mind? That reads like one of those things that Jill wrote herself.

          Why in the world would Alex be jealous of Jill? Alex’s book sold much better than Jill’s-and it was actually interesting to read.

          Jill’s “successful” bedding line-I can’t find it in the BB&B’s in my town, and someone here mentioned that it’s already on the clearance rack at the BB&B in Jill’s own building. (And the designs are UGLY.)

          And Alex is a model for real fitness, not skweezing rolls of fat with a girdle. And I mean, c’mon. How successful is this Skweez Couture really? About as “successful” as Jill’s bedding line?

          • Lavalady says:

            I would not describe any of the three things Jill has done as successful (book, bedding, underwear). The writer should check his/her facts before describing them as such. Makes you think Jill told her what to write.

        • error404 says:


          probably tweets made by those same magical elves that attacked Kiki’s kids in the press.

          Jill being mad at Alex because of Simon tweeting criticisms about JIll is soooo s3 “Ramona, apologize for Mario calling me countless!” LOL The more they talk up s4, the duller it sounds!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      And now it starts ….. Obviously Jill will never truly like Alex – it’s clear she blames her for everything that happened last season, and this blog as well – social media attacks LOL!! I hope Alex took the high road this season – Jill will come off worse than ever!!

      I just rewatched the restaurant scene with B and J in the season finale – and Jill was spewing venom at Alex even then. B was pricesless!! She asks – Alex is toxic? in a very unbelieving voice and then a moment later – “you called me toxic too,” to J. Jill just sat there then quickly changed the subject.

    • PJ says:

      Poor Jill being called out for telling lies. But it’s ok because it isn’t a problem for Jill.

  32. BambiBaby22 says:

    Me thinks Jill doesn’t know what the word “antiquated” means.

    • HD says:

      Jill really needs to get a life. Would I wear white to a wedding? No, as I think it distracts from the bride. (Maybe I am old fashioned. I don’t even like going to weddings anyway. *kanye shrug*) But who gives a damn. She had on white, she is not going to change her outfit. Who was that mentioning the white? Was that Sonia?

      • error404 says:

        Maybe. But I hardly think Jill needs an excuse to rake others other the coals. She’s just a bitch.

        They were wearing cream, not white. And IMO anyone who confuses a guest in a short dress with the bride in a full on couture gown needs glasses, but who cares. They could have worn pastels and avoided any hurt feelings. “Mountains out of molehills” really does need to be Bravo’s new motto.

        • Kukulet says:

          And, really, the “white or cream at a wedding” rule is long over. A lot of women wear cream at spring/summer weddings. Big deal.

          • Miss Katherine says:

            nah, it’s still in pretty poor taste i think. doesn’t mean jill had to comment on it publicly, but i would never dream of wearing white or cream to a wedding and would be displeased if someone wore white to my own wedding.

  33. WindyCityWondering says:

    Sorry, I love animals but Ginger is disgusting! The dog is fed unhealthy food, what do you expect would happen? IMO – she acts just like her owner!

  34. 2Stupid says:

    Kiki is still as KooKoo for Cocoa Puffs as ever. Check this out…
    I know you aren’t supposed to challenge people’s delusion, but just once I wish she would really be called out on her BS!

    • viki55 says:

      I wish I hadn’t read that. Just makes me sick. I don’t know if I can watch this season. What a total sicko crazy person she is. It’s sad she is getting a forum to spread her craziness!

    • VAgirl says:

      It wouldn’t do any good. She wouldn’t get it. She’s incapable of rational thinking.

      • Zoey says:

        Exactly, it wouldn’t do any good. Every time someone calls her out she just says something so off it leads you in some other crazy direction and you’re more confused!
        Man, I don’t have enough alcohol in the house to get through NY tonight! Have to go get a bottle of wine…

    • lovemamaearth says:

      ==Would you go into work tomorrow if somebody told you they didn’t like your shoes? Of course you’d go back to work! And if you weren’t going to go back to work, I’d hope that you’d tweet me and ask me about it, because I will yell at you and scream at you and say, “If you don’t get back into work, I will walk there with you! I will stand with you!” ==

      Please someone with tweets, tweet her and say that. lol

  35. 2Stupid says:

    Ok I’m still miffed about the above article. Her passive aggressive jabs at BF are just over the top. She went after Bethenny when she was pregnant (high risk btw) and after just losing her dad. Even though she and her dad weren’t close it opened up alot of old wounds, and when you are pregnant your hormones play havoc on your emotions. How Kelly can completely avoid any blame and act like she is the victim is outrageous. It makes me get upset with Bravo all over. I think ultimately that is the card BF played with Bravo about not coming back, Kelly being mentally unstable. She had every right to be fearful. End of rant!

    • error404 says:

      We were discussing this earlier, as it contains some real gems! LOL

      Since Kiki can’t really form a coherent thought, never mind sentence, it’s too ridiculous for me to feel miffed about. She’s not well and I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy.

      • Kukulet says:

        I agree.

        Bravo wants the ratings. They went into this season’s filming hoping that Kelly WOULD have another breakdown. They couldn’t care less about the woman herself. It’s just sad.

        • klmh says:

          I agree.

          I wonder how her family is handling this mess called Kelly? It has to be difficult for them to see her self-destruct and not be able to get her the help she needs.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      What do you think this means?

      “I’m just so proud that Bravo stuck in there with me and that they believed in me and that they were willing to change. And they were willing to change the way that the show was going. They were like, “Kelly’s freakin’ right!””

      Not that anything she said makes sense – but it looks like she thinks Bravo is on her side. Maybe they agreed not to show her Crazy side anymore. Hmmmmm

    • PJ says:

      This is the main reason that Kelly should not be on this show. She went after a woman in a vulnerable situation. This was not only wrong it could have been dangerous. That kind of stress is or can be damaging to an unborn child. Has anyone ever seen Kelly have one ounce of compassion for Bethenny? NEVER! Then she turned herself into the victim, poor Kelly. Something is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off with Kelly. I honestly feel that it is wrong for anyone to watch Kelly and it is wrong for Kelly to be given a public forum to spread her craziness.

  36. HD says:

    When Jill’s mom says you don’t wear chiffon on Christmas day, what does that mean? I don’t have a Jewish mom. LOL!

    • error404 says:

      It’s too lightweight. She wore a spring/summer dress to a winter affair.

      It was a borrowed dress form her cousin’s JUne wedding. She was on her own as her parents disapproved of the marriage and refused to throw her a wedding party or pay for anything. The fact that they couldn’t afford to buy their won dress might be an indication on why the parents disapproved.

      • Kukulet says:

        Yeah…chiffon, taffeta, and light fabrics are supposed to be worn in spring/summer, velvet and satin for fall/winter.

        Although, these days, I think the old rules have loosened up a lot. But, still, not many women want to shiver on their wedding days.

    • VAgirl says:

      I’m not sure, but I think she was actually referring to what she wore on her wedding day. Aren’t they looking at her wedding pictures and didn’t she get married on Christmas day and wasn’t she wearing chiffon? At least that’s what I got out of it. I may be completely wrong.

  37. lillybee says:

    Jill was so nasty in the first episode with all her cracks about Ramona’s yacht party.

    • error404 says:

      She’s obsessed with one-upmanship which must be exhausting. Imagine not being able to enjoy a lovely day out on a boat with friends because you’re too busy looking for every tiny fault? You can tell Jill is just miserable inside her head that day. Bravo is truly delusional when they describe these idiots as “aspirational”.

      • Kukulet says:

        I thought it was Kelly who said they were “aspirational”? Did Bravo say it too?

        • error404 says:

          Kelly parrots things a lot. She did repeat “aspirational” a lot, especially in her first season PR. It always sounded like she was reading off a cue card. Bravo uses it a lot in their RH PR, ever since RHoOC IIRC.

  38. LuAnn wants to be on “Dancing With The Stars”. This article made me laugh. I have a feeling Bravo thinks that LuAnn is the new “breakout star” of RHONY. Why is she doing interviews by herself? If they consider LuAnn the new star of RHONY, the NY franchise is in big trouble. LOL
    Move over, ice-skating Bethenny Frankel!

    The Real Housewives of New York City star Countess LuAnn de Lesseps wants a shot at competive reality TV, too. The show’s resident singing royal is making no secret about her desire to be on Dancing With the Stars.

    “They haven’t called me yet,” she told me last night over dinner at Cecconi’s in West Hollywood. “You think they would have! They should. I would love to do it.”

    And she already has her partner picked out—Maksim Chmerkovskiy. “I need a big guy,” she said with a big smile.

    Does she also need a reason to leave New York? She said she’s thought about switching coasts. “What do you think of me moving to Beverly Hills?” she asked. “Imagine the Countess in Beverly Hills!”

    Sounds like a spinoff to me.

    Oh, her favorite dance is the salsa—because, she said. “I’m spicy.”

    And speaking of spicy, LuAnn is still going strong with her French wine distributor beau Jacques Azoulay. As for the ongoing question of marriage, she said nothing’s in the works…yet.

    As for the new season, which premieres tonight on Bravo, LuAnn couldn’t give too much away, but she did tell me that the cast’s trip to Morocco is full of drama. And that includes the Countess coming thisclose to being thrown from an unruly—ready for this?—camel.



    • error404 says:

      1. How inept can you be when you borrow Teresa’s failed PR from last season? Pathetic!

      2. Great… the highlight of the season is “high drama” like Lulu ALMOST getting thrown for a camel! As it the show didn’t already have “bomb” written all over it!

    • Lavalady says:

      My sister and I were just talking about DWTS, how they always have a Nickoldeon kid, a sports star, a reality star, an older person, etc. each season. We were wondering who would be the first housewife chosen. She had a great idea. Instead of one of the housewives being on DWTS, what about Jason? It would be great for him. Do you think he’s well know enough?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly’s delusionality is rubbing off on the countless! Real in demand celebs have agents that go after opportunities for them….telling the tabloids you want to be on DWTS shows no class and we get the last laugh.

      • error404 says:

        I think Teresa was naive enough to think it would work. I think Lulu is just desperate to get her name in the papers. s4 is about to kick off and everyone is interviewing everyone but Countless Lulu, as usual. It must be tough to be forever the forgotten housewife.

    • VAgirl says:

      If it happens, I pity the poor fool who has to be her partner. She’s insufferable with her “darlings” and passive aggressive putdowns.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      My goodness she is boring.

  39. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill’s truest colors showed the night Bethenny got engaged. If she had an ounce of kindess, a dash of remorse, a sprinkle of happiness in her – she would have waddled her fake ass over and congratulated Bethenny. So it was never a real friendship because a milestone is a milestone.

  40. error404 says:

    OMG I was sitting here procrastinating, wishing I had some snacks, but telling myself I needed to do x amount of work before I could run to the store, when the little girl next door knocks on the door with girl scout cookie’s Mr404 ordered 2 weeks ago! LOL like a gift from baby jesus.

    • Lavalady says:

      What kind. We had 8 boxes of peanut butter patties and they’re all gone.

      • error404 says:

        trefoils and semoas. I don’t think there is a gs cookie I dislike. I even love the mints and I hate mint! lol

        • Lavalady says:

          Put the mints in the fridge or freezer. So good. Mr. lava loves trefoils; we have one box of those left.

          • Mimisfbay says:

            Problem, I consider one of the cellophane sleeves of thin mints a serving. I am sadly unable to have GS cookies near me. I give the girls $4 and tell them to pick out their favs and enjoy. Sigh. Besides the girls are beyond thrilled.

            • error404 says:

              tell me about it! I had to text Mr404 that they were delivered just so I won’t eat them all before he comes home and claim they never came! lol

      • VAgirl says:

        I like the Samoas (sp?)

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Awwwww….you are so lucky!

  41. BambiBaby22 says:

    Has Jill ever addressed her pathetic attempt at philanthropy on Celebrity Apprentice by donating a measley $500?
    The way I see it, she is in a catch-22, if she justifies the $500 donation by saying that was all she could afford, then her 3 year fairy tale of an UES rich princess is blown out of the water, and she is admitting that she is flat broke.
    If she doesn’t say anything, then she is allowing all of us to ASSUME she is a cheap skate. Either way, she just looks like a moron.
    Maybe she can use the excuse, “I gave at the office”…..she was really out of her wealth league on CA.

    • error404 says:

      I’m sure she would throw Bawby under the bus as usual, saying that was all he allowed her to spend. She loves to play 1950s housewife, like when she was pretending to Luann that she had to hide her Sacs cc from Bawby.

    • Nancy says:

      I’m surprised that Jill hasn’t been knocking at Trump’s door to be put on the show. I’s love to see Star go all “New York” on her.

    • lillybee says:

      She is a moron.

  42. NYCer says:

    Lynn, how is your comment showing up under Jill’s shapewear photo? Does that mean she’s unblocked you from twitter and will be open to criticism this year? 🙂

    A note about the Padma snubs housewives article–did anyone see this mentioned on WWHL? When Curtis and NeNe were on, Curtis was making comments about the HW behavior on the recent promo shoot and NeNe said she saw him and Padma rolling their eyes about the loud HWs who were loud and wouldn’t stop talking, but “it wasn’t her”…and then in the WWHL aftershow Curtis said he was afraid of JZ because JZ had texted NeNe during the show saying why are you talking about me? I’m assuming JZ then called her friends in the press and planted the Padma story. Pre-emptive strike.

  43. lovemamaearth says:

    == Jen was let off the hook by Gail Simmons who actually thanked her for being angry and unprofessional. What was Gail thinking?


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO, Gail, who isn’t particularly funny, was going for a laugh. Unfortunately, it was at Jen’s expense. To her credit – Jen took it very well.

  44. Nancy says:

    I can’t stand her. Watching Jill makes my B.P. go up! Shrill and crazy are at LuAnn’s book reading. I can’t believe how %$#@! rude Jill was. I would love to sit down with Jill and watch these episodes together and have a little Q & A afterwards. How can she justify her behavior?

    • error404 says:

      I rather pick pins in my eyes! LOL Did you see the clip where Alex confronts her at the wedding, and see’s all “Yeah, but..no, but, yeah, well you see…” Ugh. First she tries to tun it around ask asks why Alex cares, then she tries to deny texting the bride, then she just decides not to bother and says “whatever”. I can’t talk to people like that.

    • error404 says:

      Ok, let’s try that again! LOL

      I’d rather stick pins in my eyes! LOL Did you see the clip where Alex confronts her at the wedding, and she’s all “Yeah, but..no, but, yeah, well you see…” Ugh. First she tries to turn it around and asks why Alex cares, then she tries to deny texting the bride, then she just decides not to bother and says “whatever”. I can’t talk to people like that.

      • Nancy says:

        It’s very telling to me that Jill just can’t be nice. (To save her own life that is) A 4th grader would get this. The ONLY way Jill is going to get anyone to like her again is to be nice. It’s really not that complicated Jill. We say it to our kids. “Now play nice to the other kids.” She just doesn’t have it in her and sorry to say I don’t think she ever did.

  45. WindyCityWondering says:

    Tamra has boob curtains!

  46. WindyCityWondering says:

    At times it feels like Jill is channeling Gloria in her talking heads. She does something foul and then explains it away with her “rules” and that makes her behavior absolutely fine!

  47. Casey says:

    Tamra is a total trash bag this year. I bet you she is going to crack soon. Sometimes on twitter she gets real defensive to tweets written to her. And, Jill on Twitter today she tweeted to a NY news reporter “Why aren’t the RHONY girls on your show today to promote our premiere tonight?” OMG I wonder how Bravo feels about Jill doing things like this.

    • error404 says:

      OMG it wasn’t Rosanna Scotto was it? Wasn’t she the one that went all @#$% on her co-anchor when she thought the camera was off? LOL

    • 2Stupid says:

      A little OT, but did anyone notice a few weeks back when Tamra was justifiying what she said about Alexis and her dress line, that we can’t all be Bethenny Frankel? I think people on the other shows know Bethenny is the exception not the rule, but the NY girls think, anything BF can do they can do better! On some weird level, I think Kelly, Luann, and Jill think they are responsible, if not contributed to her success. The refuse to give her credit for her determination, and just write it off as something any HW can do.

      • error404 says:

        Not really.

        I think Luann just honestly dislikes B.

        I think Jill knows B is more successful, and tries to ride her coattails.

        I think Kelly believes she is way more successful that B and it just infuriates her whenever B gets attention, like it’s Snookie winning an Oscar or something. Why can’t we all see how inauthentic and undeserving B is?

        • 2Stupid says:

          I always think of them being like Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          LuAnn dislikes Bethenny because she doesn’t play the countess is wonderful game. Kelly initially thought Bethenny was just like her – on some level she knows Bethenny is way up there and doesn’t understand why. They are riding on Jill’s hate tails!

          • error404 says:

            I think Lulu dislikes B for a lot or reasons, fair or unfair. I think Lulu is serious when she says stuff like she won’t show her bathroom on tv and is horrified to see B peeing on a stick on camera. This from the woman who made out awkwardly with greasy Courte. Ewww.
            Or when Lulu gave B that cheesy dating advice, and B looked at her like she was on crack. Being dismissed off hard really does hurt Lulu’s feelings, as she takes herself very seriously.

            • 2Stupid says:

              Yet she can go to a club and perform that hideous song, and it not be a joke! She really is a dycotamy.

    • lillybee says:

      Jill thinks that the NYC media revolves around her. So sad.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I wish Jill would get fired very publicly. The way she disrespected B so publicly & gleefully.

      Alex’s message from B was kind of from most of us here too. We’d love to be “done” with her too.

  48. 2Stupid says:

    My comment disappeared. It was about Tamra justifying her comments about Alexis’ dress line, and they can’t all be Bethenny Frankel. I think other franchises know Bethenny is the exception not the rule. Yet, NY, seems to think if Bethenny can do it they can do it better, totally discrediting her detrmination. I think Jill, Luann, and Kelly think they are responsible for her sucess. To that I say Adios Lunatics!

    • 2Stupid says:

      Ok it came back. Sorry for the double post. I a little over stimulated today I guess. It is like big game day for me.

  49. WindyCityWondering says:

    LuAnn is very confused for someone who bills herself as “the manners maven”. She constantly corrects people, commits the same sins, and fails to see that her behavior lacks class and manners and that she is a liar and a gossip to boot!

    • Cusi77 says:

      You have that right!

      • Nancy says:

        I almost hate LuAnn as much I do Jill.

        • Zoey says:

          Same here! I’m shocked to find out that I just could not watch the reruns of Luann telling off Alex about confronting Jill. I just can’t take her a second time. She’s gone from passive aggressive to not so passive.

          I still wonder how she can be such a follower. She’s a beautiful woman, but I guess she’s really insecure beneath all the crappola she spews.

          • California35 says:

            Lynn has nothing excting to show on TV because she wants to be very private about her ralationship and her kids. Everything she showed seems kind of planed. What else can she show? Maybe this season she will be a bit more interesting and open to show us.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I dislike them both too. They’re very much alike. Rude and selfish.

    • error404 says:

      That’s what I love about Lulu! She reminds me of Aunt March from Little Women. Everyone needs an old blowhard criticizing their every move. It’s a storytelling classic and always enjoyable when the hero finally tells them off!

  50. VAgirl says:

    I think the posts are showing up really really slow today. It did that to me the other day and my post showed up three times (eventually)

  51. Casey says:

    I just read the bad review for RHONY from Daily News article. Jill must be ready to blow. HAHAHA! So I guess the rumors were true about postponing the season due to it being so boring. Well if it got only 1 star after being edited again, I wonder how bad it was before.

    • error404 says:

      one shudders to think! LOL

    • 2Stupid says:

      Bethenny couldn’t have picked a better time to go on vacation. Especially rumors are circulating about her getting a talk show, her show has been renewed and the premiere show is getting terrible reviews and it is boring. The green eyed monster will be out, and they will amp up the Bethenny bashing just to get press!

      • error404 says:

        It’s funny because sometimes I think “what’s wrong with me?” because I want B to succeed so badly and the others to fail miserably. Then they replay s3 of RHoNY and I get it.

        • 2Stupid says:

          I know! I’m not a 100% sure if I really adore Bethenny that much or just hate them more. Whatever the reason Jill really did a number on herself last season. It was all the behind the scene stuff that made me so mad.

      • Casey says:

        There is a poll somewhere about which housewife show is the most popular. I did not know this but NY is near the bottom. Atlanta and Beverly Hills were at the top. I had know idea that NY was doing so poorly.

        • error404 says:

          to be fair, At and BH just finished their latest seasons, and NY has yet to show theirs. Let’s see how NY does after tonight! LOL

    • Nancy says:

      Someone should tweet her with “Congratulations on your great review!”

  52. Kukulet says:

    Watching the reruns of last season, I just want to slap Jill anew. She’s just so unbelievably nasty and vindictive.

    Does anyone really expect to see changes in Jill this season? Just curious.

  53. Zoey says:

    I just love reading all the comments here, and loved the blog today Lynn, thanks! Is Jill going to be doing her Urine Stream tonight? I still don’t understand how or when that’s supposed to take place.

    I totally agree about the music being way too loud on TC last night. It was so annoying! I missed much of the dialogue. Maybe Tom C can do something about that.

  54. indy anna says:

    Just accidentally saw the “Group” from RHONY on Rachel Ray’s program. KOOKOO was there with her chair with stuffed animals glued all over, The Countless was pouring water and Ramona gave financial advise for starting a business. They were so irrelevant and vapid. (not Ramoner, she gave good advice). Sonja Slut had that same old tan feathery cocktain dress on. Thank goodness I have other shows to watch tonight, I won’t be watching the Salem Witches. (But I will be here tomorrow to read what you all have to say). Thanks for watching for me.

  55. Nancy says:

    I love when Jill yelled at Alex “What do you want me to do, throw myself out he window?

  56. error404 says:

    It’s official. RHoDC is cancelled.
    Vincenzo is going to be so crushed!

    • justanothermary says:

      Where is Vinenzo? I’ve been reading all the Jill bashing (which I love) and thinking that dear young boy is not here defending his Jill. I really get a kick out of his “take” on Jill.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        I think we wore him out with our refusal to drink the Jill-ade. LOL

        • justanothermary says:

          LOL – I still think the whole Vince thing is a JZ plant. Granted, it is more creative and devious than the average Jill plant, but maybe she finally hired someone with a brain to clean up her reputation.

    • VAgirl says:

      Gonna miss Cat, Linda and Mary (and Ebong and Rich). Not so much Stacy.

      • quincyil says:

        I am starting a campaign to get Cat O on NYC. I want her to call Jill Zarin out when Jill Zarin starts that crap.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Hopefully, NYC will be right behind.

  57. VAgirl says:

    It’s almost Turtle Time!!!!!!!

  58. justanothermary says:

    I’m in a bit of a quandray over the whole RHoNY without Bethanny. I’ve never been a big Beth fan but will the show be worth watching without her? Do I care? Should I care? Will it be just as much fun to simply watch the final (I hope) season and watch them all scramble to blame each other for the failed ratings? The big fear here is that without B there will be more time devoted to JZ and Lumann, not sure even the bravest among us could endure that.

    • VAgirl says:

      I’m watching that train wreck. I just can’t turn away from people digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole!

      • vilzvet says:

        I can’t watch the train wreck. I have to watch the NY Rangers try to win this game tonight or else they may blow the playoffs. But I’m ready to go at 10:00.

    • error404 says:

      That’s interesting that you say that. (gosh, that’s a lot of thats in one sentence!)
      I only watched because of B, so it’s interesting to hear a non-fan say it might be boring without her. Not a good sign IMO.

      I think there are two problems going on here:

      1. Cindy, from what we’re heard so far, sounds more like Dull Jen, the non-housewife housewife, than anyone. Sonja and Kiki were good adds, as love them or hate them, they got a lot of buz after their premier seasons.

      2. All the others were very interesting, but it’s over. We’ve learned all there is to learn about them, and form now on, it will just be repeats and same ole same ole. What could s4 possibly be about? Jill gets offended over nothing? Ramona says something rude and later gives a half assed apology like “I’m sorry you were feeling so over sensitive, that my remarks hurt your feelings.”? LuAnn interrups someone who’s speaking, to admoish them for talking with food in their mouth? Kelly shows up late to her own party, and then leaves early? Silex make “the chums” breakfast? What? I’m done. I’m done!

      • justanothermary says:

        The big problem would be if Bravo decided to make the JZ/Lumann friendship the main focus as they did with JZ/Beth. I personally, just could not stomach that much of either of them.

        • California35 says:

          I think Luann will be too busy with boyfriend and finding a new housekeeper 😛

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      That is the question – can RHNY survive without Bethenny’s dynamic! IMO, Jill can not carry the show nor can she redeem herself.

      • quincyil says:

        I think it can survive. Frankly, I think that the “housewife” Jill referred to in the article about someone coming between Jill and her husband is Simon. I think Alex can’t stand up to Jill and Simon plays a large role this year.

        At Bravotv.com there are house tours. Simon is in every scenes of the Silex home. The other women are alone in their homes.

        Simon also has his bravotv.com series. I believe that it is the trial run for something bigger. I think Simon is surely in the upper group of the NYC pecking order. I think he is below Jill and Ramona, but above Luann, Sonja, Alex, and Cindy.

        If Jill Zarin goes to war with Simon, I think Simon’s star will shine brighter and his place in the pecking order will be equal to Jill’s position.

        Simon is intelligent and he can zing the one liners like Bethenny. I don’t think he is afraid of any of those women. He used logic against Ramona when she was being awful towards him.

        Over the years, husbands have played greater roles. Simon was a ground breaker when it came to breaking that ground.


  59. VAgirl says:

    Where are the fish? Where are the fish? That Ramona cracks me up!

  60. Nancy says:

    Has anyone wondered if one of the real reasons Jill didn’t join the ST Johns trip was because she didn’t want to be seen in a bathing suit?
    I must say all the other ladies looked great.

    • justanothermary says:

      Good point. There had to be a really good reason why JZ didn’t go and that one may just have been it. You KNOW it had to drive her crazy the entire time because JZ firmly believes they have nothing to talk about except Jill and JZ loves to know what’s going on all the time.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill has very expensive muumuu coverups – she didn’t go because she was remote controlling Kelly to go off on those ungrateful, horrible women.

        • vilzvet says:

          Yes, good observation. We have never seen Jill in a bathing suit, I believe. Actually I think we saw her in a pool with Bethenny way back but she was covered up or something.

      • quincyil says:

        Jill and Ramona had rival trips. Bravo took Ramona’s idea. Jill actually tried to stop people from going to Ramona’s Island vacation.

        This was mentioned by Bethenny in the season 3 reunion, but several people where shouting at the same time.

      • error404 says:

        IMO the sequence of events went something like this:

        1. Jill desperately wanted to host a St Barts trip to get everyone and the cameras away from B, whom would not be invited due to the pre-planned faux “feud”

        2. Bravo instead backed Ramona’s St John trip, mostly because their breakout star B would be going.

        3. I a jealous rage, Jill vowed to boycott the trip, got Lulu and Kiki to agree. Oh, and Dull Jen too, but doesn’t matter as she existed as a HW in Jill’s mind only.

        4. Kiki’s agent told her the boycott was a mistake as she would miss air time and be fired for being boring. What Kiki heard was “Bravo is forcing you to go.” Kiki turned to her new drag mother JIll for advice. Jill quickly realized she’d have eyes and ears on trip, so advised Kiki to go.

        5. Lacking LuAnn’s discipline, the boycott was driving Jill over the edge. How could she not be there? How could she not be the center of attention? Film her going with Ally to a tutor? Puhlease, she’d be sure to be fired for being boring! Besides, Kelly was obviously unstable and couldn’t be trusted for sound updates. Bethenny has knives on her tongue? What the f crazy shit was that? So she just happened to accidentally be in the neighbor hood and having to pee and all, she knocked on the door of the first house they came upon. Imagine her surprise to find her dear friend Ramona inside! She had no idea. Wink, wink.

        6. Jill’s skating party was a bomb. She both figuratively and literally fell on her face. Ramona one-upped her with her season closing renual party. And her faux “feud” had backfired miserable. Jill was depressed.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          When Jill’s plans don’t go as planned bad things are in store for all. She was pulling Kelly’s strings. She could not stay away. And she never anticipated they would have the balls to stand up to her!
          So this season there will be payback aplenty! Without Bethenny there to put a humorous spin on the nastiness – Jill will be center stage with no excuse or comic relief.

  61. Casey says:

    I was thinking about tonight’s WWHL. If it is the 100th episode there will be old clips and more focus on Andy. I wonder how Jill will handle not having the spotlight on her for the full 30 minutes. Oh, I just can’t wait to see!

    • error404 says:

      Jill is like Norma Desmond. She believes the spot light is on her even when it isn’t. She’ll walk away believing Mr DeMille wants her for a remake of Salome, no matter what Andy says or does.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I hope Andy mocks Jill’s farty, ill mannered fugly dog and declares his loyalty to Giggy! IMO, Andy wants to get her visit over asap and she just wore him down – after all shouldn’t the new girl be on?

      • California35 says:

        I feel bad for Ginger mainly because she is Jill’s, but also because she was not properly trained and is not properly fed. It is not her fault she snips and barks and poops inside the house.

        • California35 says:

          oh sorry, my point was lol
          If she is not invited to the “club house” or any events, it is because she might not behave. (I use might, to be nice)

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            I don’t like abused animals and Ginger is not well mannered – she went after Ally!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      The only thing that would make WWHL better tonight would be if they had Jill and Kelly instead of Ramona.

      I think Andy’s afraid of Kelly. Well, wouldn’t you be?

  62. Miss Katherine says:

    hahahaha it’s the infamous “creepy” gift bag that made kelly cry.

  63. Nancy says:

    I loved when Kelly called Bethenny a “Ho Bag” and instead of being mad she
    By the way, what IS a Ho Bag?

    • error404 says:

      it’s a 1979 way of saying “slut”.

      • Nancy says:

        Now I know why I didn’t get it. I was in Europe skating with a bunch of cute guys that didn’t want to have sex with me or any other skater. Shame.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill’s rationale of why she should go down to surprise them was so full of bs. She may forget the horrible crap she does but no one else does – even LuAnn knows that!

        • quincyil says:

          Jill had a fantasy and she lives for fantasies. Her dream was she would fly down there and sit on a beach with Bethenny like they did in earlier seasons. On that beach, they would have a conversation about the past and move into the future as friends.

          Alex shook from fear. Ramona asked Jill to understand and go…. and Jill Zarin was embarrassed on national TV.

          If Jill Zarin wanted revenge for not inviting her to a cooking party in the first episode, think of the revenge she wants for embarrassing her on national TV.

  64. NMhousewife says:

    Watching Scary Island like you all and getting excited for tonight’s show. Back at the end of last season, i really wanted Kelly and Jill off the show, but now I am glad they will be on because I am very interested to see how they will behave. If they end up by the end of the season with the same or worse reputations, then they can’t blame Bethanny. I really hope I can root for Alex and Sonia, but from watching the preview, I have a feeling they are both a little overbearing these days.

    • Nancy says:

      The show is toast without Bethenny.

      • quincyil says:

        I don’t know if it’s toast. Bethenny was not in quite of few episodes last year and they show was outrageous. She did not go to the Brooklyn fashion and Jill held her own there.

        The first reviews were 3 of 4 stars, but the ones coming out now are not that good.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I thought Jill made a bloody fool of herself at the Brooklyn fashion show last year.

  65. WindyCityWondering says:

    What still astounds me is the fact that Kelly can’t own anything she says or does! She doesn’t apologize even when she is told she is being hurtful, she doesn’t stop when she is asked to stop and her goal (Jill’s goal) was to destroy the trip.

  66. HD says:

    Alex’s face is priceless during this dinner!

    • HD says:

      “And this black eye makeup and white face…she was channeling a vampire”. LMAO!!!

      • HD says:

        I am cracking up! “I’ll do whatever I want. I’m a woman and I have a prerogative. And what about Rachel? Does anyone want a jellybean or a lollipop? Just calm down. It doesn’t matter. The food was delicious. I didn’t say she was evil. The operative word was channel. I think she’s awesome. Okay I’m crazy. Your dad passed away and you’re like here? It’s creepy! I feel like you’re trying to kill me every night. I threw up before I came. I don’t want to be a part of this.”


        I am cracking up. This never gets old to me. I have never seen anything like this on TV, ever!

        • California35 says:

          Oh THAT dinner! 😛 You are making me want to watch it lol.

          I set to record the very last episode of S3 right before S4. I figured I should at least re-watch that.

        • Nancy says:

          You forgot the best line.
          GO TO SLEEP.

    • Cusi77 says:

      HD_ I bet if when we saw this scene for the first time we would have had a camera in front of our faces how would have been priceless… I know I was terrified… it was very disturbing! I think the difference today is that I know she is not normal or I don’t take her as an adult anymore. I can not even imagine what was about to stay in front of a person having this breakdown…

      • HD says:

        I know! When I first saw this I was dumbstruck. I could not believe it! I couldn’t even imagine being there. I wonder what drove her to that point? Even looking at her with her hair and stuff she looks like she had a nervous breakdown. But she thinks she is normal. After watching it so many times I started to wonder if I was the crazy one. Was I not seeing what I just saw?

        • California35 says:

          Same here….

        • HD says:

          I can remember one day I was at work at this woman came in to see my boss. She had this blanket wrapped up in her arms. She said if she did not give him this blanket the world would end. She looked crazy. I WAS SO SCARED! She was determined that this blanket had some special powers and here I was alone with this woman. When I heard another employee come in I dashed downstairs scared out of my mind! It is really scary to watch someone like that. Eventually the woman left and although I still see her and she on medication I am afraid for her to even come near me.

        • Nancy says:

          My husband and I looked at each other and said “Meth”
          both at the same time.

      • California35 says:

        Can you imagine someone we know and are hanging out with starts acting like that in front of us? I think I would walk out or stay still to not provoke anything my way.

      • error404 says:

        Totally! OMG, my jaw hit the floor, and no word a lie, both Mr404 and I got up from the couch and stood right in front of the tv watching with eyes wide like saucers, like it was live tsunami footage. LOL

  67. HD says:

    Alex looks like she is going to break down getting that mani and pedi!

    Jill came in like nothing happened. LOL! “Oh what’s this? Manis and Pedis. Look at this house!” What a fool!

  68. California35 says:

    Jill – I won’t stop my Ustream unless you put me on WWHL.

  69. Nancy says:

    Jill’s best one liner has to be…

    “I thought you’d be happy to see me!”


  70. boston02127 says:

    I’m free, I’m free! Homework done…..the day is done…bring on the big mouth bully Jill. I’m ready!

    Happy butt dance!

  71. HD says:

    Alex be gettin’ her freak on! LOL!

  72. Nancy says:

    This just hit me. I bet Jill’s relationship with Bobby is more like a Father figure instead of any real romantic feelings.
    Anyone agree?

    • quincyil says:

      I think they have play sexual games like help me get out of this girdle. LOL

      I think it’s a real relationship with financial rewards for Jill’s performance.

      • HD says:

        I agree with Quincy on that one. I think its for her financial gain. Some women don’t care. As long as you pay the bills and bankroll a lavish lifestyle, what’s a little sex?

        I will never forget how she was pushing Ally to be all nice to him so he would send her to that camp that’s not a fat camp but helped her lose weight for her arthitis…okay. I thought hmmmm her she goes schooling her daughter early on how to suck up to a man to get him to pay for something.

      • AZ Girl says:

        Yea, how many power tools does it take Bobby to get her out of that corset.

    • error404 says:

      I think she looks up to him and respects his opinion, which is perhaps what you’re picking up on. She’s always banging on about “Bawby said….” like we care what that greasy peddler thinks, like he’s the friggin Dali Lama or something. Another thing you may be picking up on, is that they don’t seem to be BFFs. They are rarely seen together, and even when they both go to the same party, she’s always hangin with her homies and he’s MIA. Jill, Sonja, Kelly and LuAnn seem to all have that kind of “sex with daddy figure for pay” type marriage, as opposed to Ramona, Alex and Bethenny who all seem to have married their best friends. Mario, and Simon were bot accused of wanting to be “housewives” just for their tendency to stay int he same room as their spouses. Jason would have been next to be criticized had they not quit the show, I’m sure.

  73. This is Jill’s latest tweet. I wonder how many times she is going to mention her girdles on WWHL.

    Jillzarin: I just had a seamstress come over to sew me into my @SkweezCouture corset! It is a little too big, Now I am busting out! Can’t wait for WWHL

  74. boston02127 says:

    Ohh!!! I’m in time for the ice fall with the uggg noise. (I’m awful) I laugh everytime I see Jill fall on the ice.

  75. Nancy says:

    Another great Jill one liner.
    “I’m the only idiot with a skating dress on”
    This is the one and only time I have agreed with Jill Zarin!

  76. boston02127 says:

    HD–I was behind on reading the posts and I read what you wrote about the Shea Butter after I used it. You’re SOOOO right that I only need a tiny bit. I bought it for my elbow, it’s just my left elbow that’s always dry. I think it’s from when I write. Anyway, last night I put some on my face & went to bed. I woke up feeling like I just got off the wing of an airplane. I could hardly blink, my eyes were tearing from the wrong side, they looked bigger then Ramona’s. Glad I went back and saw what you posted, tonight I’m using just a little dab. It works really well, I can already feel a diffrence on my elbow. 🙂

    • HD says:

      You are so funny! Yes, yes, just a little bit. A little goes a long way. And you only put it on at night so it can soak in over night. (you can put it on during the day if you are using it on other body parts just like you would lotion but you don’t want it on your face because then you will walk around all day so shiny.) Just very little on at night, let it soak it over night.

      I wonder why your eyes were tearing. Did you put it on your eyelids?

      • boston02127 says:

        LOL, yes I put some on my lids! I’m laughing at myself.

        • HD says:

          I am cracking up!!!! Girl!!! Don’t you ever do that again! LOL! Put it on your face. Just your face area. You know. Not your eyelids. LOL! Too funny! Boston! You got me crying laughing! You are too funny!

  77. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill and her weapons down drives me nuts. She lost the war! Everyone else has moved on and she expects them to do what she would do – retaliate!

    • boston02127 says:

      @WCW—Me too! And when she said to LuMan about her & Bethenny making up…….”just like two little girls sitting on the beach”. Ugh,

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And after all she did and said she insists on calling it “friendship”! It’s more like I used you and got caught ship.

  78. California35 says:

    I made it! I just got home – on time to watch the last episode of S3!!!

  79. LynnNChicago says:


    For those of you who watched Real Housewives of Miami, this may be of interest to you. Larsa’s house (Scottie Pippin) in Highland Park Illinois had a Giudice style yard sale.

  80. klmh says:

    There are some good ones in here. I love the i-phone one.


    Dear Noah,
    We could have sworn you said the ark wasn’t leaving till 5.

    Dear Twilight fans,
    Please realize that because vampires are dead and have no blood pumping through them, they can never get an erection.
    Enjoy fantasizing about that.

    Dear Icebergs,
    Sorry to hear about the global warming. Karma’s a bitch.
    The Titanic

    Dear America,
    You produced Miley Cyrus. Bieber is your punishment.

    Dear Yahoo,
    I’ve never heard anyone say, “I don’t know, let’s Yahoo! it…” just saying…

    Dear 2010,
    So I hear the best rapper is white and the president is black? WTF happened?!

    Dear Windshield Wipers,
    Can’t touch this.
    That Little Triangle

    Dear girls who have been dumped,
    There are plenty of fish in the sea… Just kidding! They’re all dead.

    Dear Saturn,
    I liked it, so I put a ring on it.

    Dear Fox News,
    So far, no news about foxes.

    Dear jf;ldsfa/kvsmmklnn,
    Please lknvfdmv.xvn.
    Sincerely, Stevie Wonder

    Dear Nickleback,
    That’s enough.
    Sincerely, The World

    Dear Skin-Colored Band Aids,
    Please make one for every skin color.
    Sincerely, Black people

    Dear Scissors,
    I feel your pain…..no one wants to run with me either.
    Sincerely, Sarah Palin

    Dear Osama Bin Laden,
    Sincerely, United States

    Dear World of Warcraft,
    Thank you for ensuring my son’s virginity.
    Sincerely, Parents Everywhere

    Dear Batman,
    What was your power again?
    Sincerely, Superman

    Dear Customers,
    Yes, we ARE making fun of you in Vietnamese.
    Sincerely, Nail Salon Ladies

    Dear Global Warming,
    You’re the best imaginary friend ever!
    Sincerely, Al Gore

    Dear Ugly People,
    You’re welcome.
    Sincerely, Alcohol

    Dear World,
    Please stop freaking out about 2012. Our calendars ends there because some Spanish d-bags invaded our country and we got a little busy ok?
    The Mayans

    Dear White People,
    Don’t you just hate immigrants?
    Native Americans

    Dear iPhone,
    Please stop spellchecking all of my rude words into nice words. You piece of shut.
    Every iPhone User

    Dear Giant Spider on the Wall,
    Please die. Please die. Please die. Please die. CRAP! Where did you go?

    Dear Trash,
    At least you get picked up…
    The Girls of Jersey Shore

    Dear Man,
    It’s cute, but can you pick up peanuts with it?

    Dear Dr. Phil,
    Look man, there’s only room for one fake doctor in this world and I was here first.
    Dr. Pepper

  81. California35 says:

    Boring time – Luann’s event

  82. AZ Girl says:

    After watching “Scary Island” for the third time I realized that Kelly would always get crazy around meal time. She left before that first meal on the boat and then returned all hyped up. All crazy during the meal and she would leave again and came back for desert. The final dinner was the same. She was really wasted and hyped up.
    It has to be drugs. Either that or she is bi-polar.

    • AZ Girl says:

      One more..the breakfast where she is say “statchel of gold” and starting another fight with Bethenny.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      How did she get drugs down to St John’s?

      • AZ Girl says:

        I don’t think that private planes undergo the same TSA safety regulation. If they do then there is a prescription drug Adderal (sp) for ADHD that does produce the same affect. Adderal is also commonly used as a appetite suppressant.

  83. VAgirl says:

    look! it’s madonna/fergie!

    • HD says:

      LOL! Okay! She was up there like a Grammy would be around the corner!

      • Nancy says:

        I couldn’t watch it. I was dying for her. Could you imagine being one of her kids? I think I’d jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.

  84. Mia Kulpa says:

    In that preview clip Ramona says “I got Ramotional”. Bethenny should have patented her wittisisms and one-liners and made these people have to pay her every time they drop one. If the new season is so great without her, stop using her words and lines. It’s just so ironic that Ramona’s clip is about how the show doesn’t need Bethenny lol.

  85. boston02127 says:

    I’m so sick of Jill defending herself.

    • California35 says:

      Yeah, everything she does she explains also. When she said hi to Simon and Alex, after Simon was the one that approached her, then she tell us that she can be sibil or something. Yada yada

  86. boston02127 says:

    Avery has beautiful hair.

  87. California35 says:

    ” I decided to be the bigger person, again” – she just showed up w
    Even though she didn’t RSVP – she is the bigger person….Kelly

  88. Nancy says:

    8 more minutes!!!!

  89. LynnNChicago says:

    Ramona got one of the good guys. She’s a lucky lady.

  90. Kukulet says:

    Jill: “I don’t gossip about you.”

    I have to give Bethenny a lot of credit here for managing to keep it together when Jill said that, among other things. If I’d been in her shoes, I’d have reached across and bitch slapped the shrew.

  91. California35 says:

    Oh there’s the skirt lo,ay Simon lol

  92. NMhousewife says:

    I love that while the show is airing, we will have live chatter going on here!

  93. California35 says:

    Ok – I better start heading to the bedroom, even I don’t know how the episode is going to be…As I told my BF even I might get annoyed by the episode, so I’m not going to put him through it 😛

    Will you be here? I want to focus on the show, but I will be on line also.

  94. LynnNChicago says:



  95. California35 says:

    Ay Jill – her last hug – “I am who I am” then C YA Linatic….

  96. NJ Bev says:

    Jill is wearing the same dress that leah(?) wore on WWHL
    the Miami reunion!?

  97. HD says:

    Goodness! I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to make it! Jill is still the same self centered evil person she was last season!

  98. dsc60 says:

    and so it begins… being a model means you’re photogenic… it does not mean you’re pretty… so THAT’S how she got into Playboy.

  99. MBDEA says:

    It is too bad TCM was disappointing even for me and I KNOW one of the chefs. I also KNOW the reasons why this was so weak.

    I have ALL the insights from my friend who was filmed quite prominently but had to be cut out leaving so many holes in this premier episode. Again, I know the reasons WHY.

    I was surprised that a) he was not introduced as one of the chefs in the opening credits and b) yet still surprised they scattered tiny features of him here and there.

    Given the developments, Bravo should have either excluded him completely (including his bio; the father of southwest cuisine) or aired ALL that film of him then build up to the reason for excluding him from the opening credits.

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