I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of New York

I Hate Jill Zarin   Real Housewives of New York – Season Four

Our continuing story covers Episode One of Season Four and includes our version of some behind the scenes antics, we hope you enjoy our take on things.  Quincy & LynnNChicago~

It Was the Best of Times

Ramona Singer is celebrating the launch of her new line of Pinot Grigio with the label, “Ramona.”  Alex McCord takes a sip of the wine and before she can react, Ramona interjects, “Tastes good, right.”  It wasn’t really a question, of course her cast-mate and on screen friend Alex is going to say she loves it. Ramona knew that this was going to make her famous, she didn’t write a book, that’s so cliche, none of the other ladies have their own wine label, this is real class!  Alex says Ramona should have put “Turtle Time” on the bottle, actually Ramona wanted her face on the bottle but the winery wouldn’t go for that.  It’s officially Turtle Time for the fourth season of “The Real Housewives of New York City.”

Jill Zarin arrives with her husband Bobby wearing a dress that is very much like the one that Bethenny Frankel wore in the third season reunion.  Jill Zarin tells us that she is surprised to feel welcomed by Simon van Kempen but Alex’s face is a stone, you can see her jaw muscles clenching at the sight of Jill Zarin.

The chess game has begun, Jill makes the first move by greeting Alex with air kisses to each cheek but Alex tells us that this is all wrong.  “Jill likes to pretend nothing ever happened, ignore it and it will go away but I can’t just forget all the damage Jill caused to so many people”.

Jill tells viewers that last year was humbling and that she has learned a lot, she wants to start fresh without looking back.

Simon and Alex are enjoying a glass of wine when he whispers into her ear, “Shall we go over and join the others, Darling, Please.”

Jill is telling a group of women that Alex was overreacting, crying and screaming.  Jill’s version of being booted off the island last year gets more and more dramatic each time she tells it.  Jill tells the ladies that Alex stood up and ordered her to leave and when Jill asked to use the bathroom Alex said, “Why? Don’t you have a bathroom on your private jet?”   Jill’s memory is bad but she is telling it the way she remembers it.

Alex makes her way over to where the women are talking, the discussion of last season ends as soon as Alex arrives but not before she heard Jill’s lies.  Alex knew Jill Zarin couldn’t change!  The other women cover for Jill and act as though nothing was wrong, not because they liked Jill more than Alex but because they feared Jill, her reputation as a vicious, mean, cruel woman proceeded her.   Alex asks the ladies to attend the walk from Manhattan to Brooklyn for the Marriage Equality Movement which Alex is helping as a committee member.

As Alex explains the March for Equality, she asks the women to wear their wedding gowns or white cocktail dresses.  Jill makes a joke that you can wear your cap and gown.  The ladies laugh.  Someone says, “We need a march for smaller government.” Jill said, “We need the freedom to get naked and run around.” The ladies all laugh but Alex seems confused and wonders if she has fallen into a rabbit hole and is chasing the Red Queen.

Alex says, “We expect to see you all there.  I am going to the bar.”  At the bar, Simon asks, “Do you need a refill?”  Alex replies, “I really do after all of that.”

Romana, in an interview, says, “Alex lighten up. It’s a party!”

In Search of Twitter Fans

Jill Zarin is traveling to Australia to meet her adoring fans.  Of course, she needs Kelly Bensimon’s help packing.  Since Luann found herself a man, Kelly is now Jill’s BFF.  She immediately goes to Jill’s bed and makes herself comfortable.  Jill suddenly remembers all those times Bethenny laid on her bed like that, talking and laughing she really misses Bethenny, Kelly doesn’t make Jill laugh and has no sense of humor.

Jill tells us that Kelly went through a really rough time last year, but she stuck by Kelly because that is what real friends do.  Jill is secretly hoping she will connect with the newest housewife, there has to be someone in the cast that Jill can have some fun with!  She really misses Bethenny and tears up as she talks to Kelly about her, Kelly stupidly says, “lost love” but it makes Jill sob even harder, not because Kelly’s words were deep and meaningful but because this is now what Jill has been reduced to spending time with.  Jill vows silently to bring the new girl into her circle, whatever it takes.

Jill expresses her concern about traveling half way around the planet in a jet with first class accommodations, “I feel like I am going to be locked up in a tin can for 17 hours.”  Kelly has no idea what Jill is talking about but immediately thinks it has something to do with Jill’s favorite drink, Diet Coke.  “I’m going to have an anxiety attack.” Kelly is listening to Jill and twirling her hair, first with her left hand and then with her right hand.

Jill asks Kelly why she missed the first filming of the season, “Ramona did invite you, didn’t she?”  Kelly is annoyed with such a stupid question, “Of course I was invited, but I decided not to go. The last time I saw Ramona, she called me crazy.”  (The last time Kelly saw Ramona was the season 3 reunion.)  Jill Zarin secretly smiles and makes a mental note to limit the amount of time her daughter spends with Kelly, “It’s mean.  Ramona can be an instigator.”

Kelly asks herself questions and gives herself answers, “Am I put in precarious situations a lot with these women? Yeah. Do I navigate in those circumstances well? Nope.”  Kelly’s head moves from left to right as she agrees with herself that she does not do well in precarious situations.  That Columbia degree allows Kelly to utilize a large range vocabulary.

Kelly has planned the script for the fall season of “The Real Housewives of New York.”  Kelly tells Jill, “I have planned a lot of stuff, a lot of cool stuff, things that you and I are going to do.”

Jill turns the subject to Alex, Kelly has turned Jill down to a two, Jill doesn’t notice.  Jill asks, “What do you think is going on with her? I was always her cheerleader.”

Kelly has a lucid moment and she tries to tell Jill about Alex, “If Alex can mellow it out….”  Jill stops Kelly’s lucid thought with, “Why does she hate me?”  Kelly goes blank. She leans back on the bed and twirls her hair.

Kelly can see Jill’s lips moving, Jill is complaining about Alex and Kelly doesn’t want to hear it, if the subject isn’t Bethenny Frankel, it is just white noise.  Nobody understands Kelly, they don’t understand that Bethenny tried to completely ruin her  Jill rambles on about Alex but Kelly remembers Bethenny screaming at her to “Go To Sleep”.   Kelly catches a few words that Jill is saying, “We’ll see her tonight…”  Kelly panics thinking that Jill is talking about Bethenny then realizes that Jill is still ranting about Alex McCord and Kelly turns her back down to a two.

Jill tells viewers, “I can’t fight with Alex again. That fight with Bethenny took too many years off of my life.  (Jill wipes away a non-existent tear.) I am never going to let that happen to me again. I never thought we would never make up. All I wanted to do is help Bethenny. That is all I wanted.  She built this whole career.”  Kelly pops into the conversation for a brief moment, “You got dumped.” Jill continues the soliloquy, “When you don’t have a husband and a family, your friends are your family and for me… I think that is a role that I filled for Bethenny once she got married; there wasn’t any room for me.  I thought we had a friendship where you have a fight and you have a make-up and I still love her to a certain extent in some weird, sick way.  Kelly is now twirling hair on both sides of her head at the same time and she is silent.   Kelly has a thought pop out, “It’s love lost. It’s love lost.”

Ramona, is the voice of reason?  Ramona explains, “I don’t believe that Bethenny dumped Jill as a friend. Jill did this to herself.  Jill likes to be on an equal playing field and when someone starts having a little more than she does or a little more attention, Jill gets “Jillousy.””

Down in the Dark Dungeon

Alex is having a bad internet day.  She is trying to bring up photos from Cory Bautrista and NY Model Management where at 36 years old, she has signed a contract to be a runway and print model.  Simon is playful, but Alex wants to finish her work.  Simon offers tea and bothers Alex while she is discussing her portfolio with her manager.  Simon hands Alex a barbell and she is not pleased.

Simon has started a new career and he spends his days making tea for Alex and asking her to go to power lunches where Alex insists they will not drink.  He tells Alex that she has to bring home the bacon and she tells us that he left his hotel position so now they both have to earn money. Alex seems stressed, but Simon is proud that she is producing income from a job that shows she is beautiful in the inside and the outside.  There appears to be a bit of trouble in the basement office paradise.  Kelly explains the modeling world, “A model is simply photogenic, it doesn’t mean you’re pretty.”  Alex and Simon disagree.

The Downtown Girl

Cindy Barshop is a humanitarian, at her Spa she has come up with the solution to the Bikini hair issue that has plagued the nation.  We learn that hair removal is lucrative, Cindy has twin daughters (10 months old) and because Jill Zarin inappropriately asked Cindy about the babies father, we learn there is no man in their lives.

Cindy is throwing a fundraising art event in a gallery and has invited the all of the ladies.  It was time to meet the Housewives.  The guests are surprised to learn that they will help create the artwork with their bare feet.  Cindy mentions that “There is a hundred thousand dollars of shoes here.”   Cindy’s ballet flats were $29.95 at Target.

As Cindy is ready to make a speech, she has trouble getting everyone’s attention but Ramona screams, “QUIET!”  Typical Ramona but she got the job done.

Jill Zarin explains that it is completely fine to ask a woman with two babies where their father is, Cindy should expect those type of questions yet Jill can’t understand why Cindy seems annoyed and uncomfortable.  This time, Kelly was listening and adores Jill for her investigative skills.

Kelly knows this is the first time all of the Housewives are together filming for Season Four, she has to focus and pay attention.  Kelly remembers that Jill hates Alex and is so proud of herself when she makes a really funny joke, “Alex will attend the opening of an envelope”.  Kelly is so original and authentic, she is sure her fans will laugh at her joke about Alex and Jill will love it too.

Luann and Sonja are long time friends, Sonja is still sipping her champaign as they walk toward the door to leave, both ladies plan on getting some bedroom action tonight.

Luann asks Sonja if she plans on walking out with her Champaign, Sonja jokes, “Oh, no. I’ll get arrested… again.” but her mind briefly wanders to the unopened pile of legal bills at home.

Business Interviews at Ramona  LLC.

Ramona is going to have a breakdown if she doesn’t get a second assistant. Last year, there were several people working in her offices, but they don’t last long.  Ramona wants to help the young ladies that are interviewing so she gives them excellent tips on how to dress and answer interview questions.  Ramona is a giver.  One young lady, introduces herself as Tunisia.  Ramona tells her that her name sounds like the name of a country.  Tunisia thinks Ramona is making fun of her name, sadly Ramona learned something new today.  Tunisia is a country, Ramona isn’t embarrassed, she makes a mental note to look it up on Wikipedia.

More victims pass through Ramona’s gauntlet and each one is more upset than the last as the leave one by one in tears.  Ramona is saddened by the pool of applicants but she will teach them and hopefully they’ll all get hired, but by someone else.

Dinner for Four

Sonja and Luann take their boyfriends on a double date. They have great fun with the younger men.  They play a game of musical chairs, order drinks, and enjoy teasing each other about their relationships.  Luann’s boyfriend says that he loves New York and he loves Luann.  Sonja is going slowly because she is just coming out of a divorce and is dealing with a lot of issues, Sonja’s mind wanders briefly to the pile of unread legal papers on her desk at home.

The Wedding

The Singer’s and the VanKempen’s were all invited to a wedding in the Hamptons.  Ramona knew that Alex’s presence at the wedding would annoy Jill because Jill had made many phone calls to try to pursuade the bride to exclude Alex McCord from the guest list.   Ramona wanted to ensure that she would arrive with Alex so that she doesn’t miss Jill’s reaction and so she invites the VanKempen’s to stay at her Hamptons home for the weekend and all go to the wedding together.  Ramona is excited as they pull up at the church, Jill doesn’t disappoint.

Jill should be used to Ramona’s antics, she failed to tell her that Bobby Frankel passed away and she failed to tell her that Alex and Simon would be at this wedding.

Jill tells viewers, “She (Bethenny) said that I couldn’t change.  I have changed and no matter what anyone does I will be nice and kind.”

Ramona embarrasses herself as she talks about people behind their backs but those people were literally behind her back and she is busted!  Karma baby.

Jill knows the best hiding places as she used to live in the home where the wedding reception is held, she hides in a corner with two women Jill that knew would agree with anything she said just to get some TV face time.  The three of them act out their low budget version of “Fashion Police” and agree that it is not correct to wear white to a wedding.    Jill’s inexperience on Reality Television is abused as she tells the producer in confidence into her microphone that Alex is a bitch.  Then adds,   “Look at her.  She’s socializing at a party that is so above her.”

Ramona and Alex wander over to confront Jill in their ivory dresses, Jill pretends that nothing is wrong.  They briefly talk about the food but Alex is mad and she’s not going to take it anymore.  She takes out her notes and begins to question the suspect.  No Diet Coke and a hot light bulb face Jill Zarin as Alex bangs away at Jill questioning her like the perp she is until Jill sings like a canary with that face that says, “I’m lying but you can’t call me out on it, I’m Jill Zarin damnit!”

The ladies pause to admire the beautiful wedding cake and Ramona notes that it is melting in the Hamptons heat, Ramona sticks her finger in the frosting to the horror of the others.   Alex says, “You didn’t do that.” Jill just smirks and looks at the other women as if to say, “see, I told you Ramona was low class”

Until Next Time….


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543 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Real Housewives of New York

  1. error404 says:

    I know I’m in the minority because somehow I must have a screw loose or something. I actually can’t see what’s wrong with Ramona.

    1. The wedding. It’s none of Jill’s f-ing business who’s invited and idiots like her need to be told that the world doesn’t revolve around them. Ramona isn’t a f-ing bitch for failing to tell Jill Alex would be there. She’s a normal person who refused to get dragged into the insane drama that is Jill Zarin. Good for her!

    2. The interviews. I had some really brutal interviews when I was young and dumb. To this day, I remember with gratitude and kindness the people who had to spell out the obvious for me like I had just been born yesterday. What’s the point in staying quiet so that person can keep making the same mistakes 100x and they be honestly lost as to why they are still unemployed. “Informational Interviews” are common in most businesses. And a common tip for job seekers is to ask people who turned you down why. People can snicker all they want at Ramona’s mid-west farmer fashion remarks, but that doesn’t mean it’s not how 99% of NYC employers feel, and that girl was in fact looking for a job in fashion in NYC. NYC can be brutal, and if you can’t take it, then you’re probably better off getting back on that bus to Smallsville.

    • quincyil says:

      We, in Smallsville, know that New Yorkers look down on people in flyover country. We know because they tell us.

      I laughed at Ramona’s comments because I think she is funny.

      Don’t worry, we have pecking orders here too. I laugh at that also. I call them big fish in a small pond.

      I interview for position in our lab. We have protocols. If someone came in with bib overhauls and a straw hat, I would wonder about them too.

    • HD says:

      I actually didn’t like Ramona’s comments to those young girls. I think if Jill had said that all hell would have broke loose. Ramona was wrong. You don’t give out your skin care line to people that come to interview. I don’t give a damn where you live, Paris, NYC, or Podunkville, it is wrong. Had that been a man interviewing a woman and he said things like that, all hell would have broke loose. Ramona does not get a pass on that. It was rude and insensitive. Yes, NYC is a dog eat dog world, however that doesn’t mean be a royal bitch!

      • error404 says:

        Please. Had Ramona been a man talking to a young man, nobody would have blinked an eye. It’s TV and the Donald says things 100x worse on Apprentice. But she criticized a woman’s appearance, and this is cardinal sin #1, worse than an honest response to “Honey, do these jeans make my ass look big?” LOL

        Once the cameras start rolling it’s no longer reality, but reality tv. People keep acting like it was a hidden camera Dateline report. Those women knew they were doing this to be on TV, and Ramona knew she was being filmed for entertainment purposes. “Is it ok to call your references?” isn’t going to make it off the cutting room floor and Ramona knows we’re talking about her now.

        As for NYC, just because it’s wrong doesn’t make it go away. NYC is tough and anyone stepping off that bus needs to accept that or turn back around.

        • error404 says:

          Also, I still don’t think it’s a small point that they were not applying for jobs are accountants. Ramona is in the fashion business, so talking about appearances is not completely unacceptable as it would be in other job interviews.

          And fair or not, people regularly hire pretty and well dressed to work the front desk openly describing the job as “the face of the company”. Appearance has zero to do with ability to answer a phone, fax or greet guests, yet it is the #1 criteria for receptionists in NYC.

          • HD says:

            You think one thing, I think another. I am not giving Ramona a pass. Manners do not have a jurisdiction. IN MY OPINION (isn’t that a LOVELY THING I CAN HAVE AN OPINION as can everyone else) Ramona was WRONG! It is not that she criticized a woman and for you to say that is laughable at best. Who are you? Did I not call Bethanny on her stuff for talking to that foodie guy crazy and picking the “cute” boy?

            No one mentioned hiring pretty people. We all know that. I am not talking about that. I am talking about Ramona and HER actions and her words which were rude and insensitive. That is not how you interview people by offering them your skin care line. It was rude. Period. These are MY THOUGHTS and I am allowed to have them.

            This message has been approved by HD…

            • error404 says:


              settle down there… no one’s getting personal. But thanks for the reminder that everyone’s opinion on this discussion thread are just that, our opinions. See, you just felt the need to explain to me the obvious. You ARE Ramona! LOL

              • HD says:

                On their best day of going off they couldn’t mess with me. These women and their so called “arguments” are laughable. If they want to see a real argument they need to come to my neck of the woods. We don’t mince words and calling someone a hobag is damn near a compliment in comparison to some things I have heard or for that matter said. I am rarely truly appalled at any thing these women say/do but Ramona took me there.

                I felt the need to remind you because it appeared you failed to remember that.

                Still love ya but honey, today ain’t the day and neither is tomorrow. 🙂

            • @tweatcyn says:

              The way I see it is this: Yes, Ramona was rude and unprofessional, but, she is always rude and unprofessional so she did them a favor by being herself and being upfront about being tough, impatient, and a Bitch right off the bat, because she let them know that it may not be a fit, so no false illusions. If hired, they know what they’re getting into, and if not, they know it wouldn’t have worked out anyway

              • @tweatcyn says:

                And don’t get me wrong, I still think Ramona is very entertaining, funny, and one of my fav’s.

                • lovemamaearth says:

                  I agree with both of your comments. When I was younger, I would have thought Ramona was totally wrong, but now I see that most things happen for a reason.

            • Kellita says:

              I completely agree, HD. I was horrified by the way Ramona spoke to those young ladies. There are things about her I like, but she often doesn’t treat people well, and that’s not cool. She seems to me to be pretty low on empathy.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              BUT Ramonna already explained what she was doing was try to give these women some tips for their next interveiws
              im not saying what she did or how she did it was right but she did have good intentions
              thats got to count for something and please no mentions about the road to hell is paved with good intentions you already know i dont believe there is a hell
              unless you count spending a weekend with Shrill

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          “But she criticized a woman’s appearance, and this is cardinal sin #1, worse than an honest response to “Honey, do these jeans make my ass look big?””

          and yet here on this blog people do it all the time i guess its ok to do that when it isnt to thier face


          • If you had it like this says:


          • HD says:

            You took Error’s comments out of context. Error was being tongue in cheek with that comment in response to something I said and last I checked none of these women on this blog are interviewing for a job.

            Major Eye Rollage!

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              I wasnt replying to Error i was replying to you
              regarding the women that were interviewing
              Not the women who frequent this board
              you shouldnt roll your eyes too much they could get stuck that way

      • Anne says:

        Listen what Ramona did was actionable and completely inappropriate. Unacceptable. This is NOT what happens at Ralph Lauren or at Conde Nast or at Hearst. This only happens at Ramona’s business and any other inexperienced and business owner who wants a lawsuit. It is not NYC, that I can guarantee.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sitting right there with you on 1 and 2!
      Ramona doesn’t come from a place of mean, petty or jealous – she has a lighter spirit, fun is part of her life and while she doesn’t want to get involved in Jill’s dramahz – she knows she will and she isn’t taking any of it seriously. I can laugh at Ramona and more importantly she can laugh at herself!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      well you do have a screw loose but I agree with you.lol

      EXCEPT the interview part. I work in the beauty business. Appearance is one of the most important aspects of your presentation and when I interview I have to weed out who will “fit” that and who will not.

      But I hire ugly ducklings. I also hire fashion misfits. If they have a spark in the interview process and clearly state their goals and can “sell” me- believe me appearances and presentation can and will improve.

      oh and BTW- I also have hired in NYC when I consult-it’s really no different tan any other large city ie: Chicago, LA or Boston, where I’ve also interviewed and hired.

      I would never – ever act like Ramona did in an interview and you can believe me when I tell you I am a BITCH to work with-much worse than Ramona on her worse day.

      To get someone to the point that they are about ready to cry- you are not going to get a sense of that “real” person except maybe they need to be coached on how to handle a stress interview. Stress interviews do nothing but make the interviewer feel superior to the applicant.

      When Ramona is sitting alone in her office at late at night wondering why the hell she has so much work and why she can’t find good help- maybe she’ll remember these interviews and change her strategy. Been there done that, and burned the midnight oil as a result.

    • Nancy says:

      I sort of agree but not on TV.

    • Nina says:

      okay so I’m new here and heve very different views on these ladies. I feel bad for Jill, what happened last year to her was brutal, Jill was always there for Bethenny and when Bobby got cancer Bethenny was in hiding. Jill went about things wrong in some ways but so did Bethenny. Ramona and Alex should never have been involved…..I have despised Alex since she “relayed” the message from Bethenny to Jill, that was so high school and I cannot believe everyone doesn’t trash Alex on that alone! Now she thinks she is a model?! WoW!!!!
      I read throughout this blog Jill hasn’t changed and Ramona doesn’t want drama, and I very much disagree. Ramona was so rude during her interviews the last girl should have given her a number to a great eye doc for her crazy eyes! Ramona wanted drama at the wedding she wasexcited to see Jill react, that to me is harsh! Then talking about someone while they are in earshot dispicable, glad she got busted! Anyways looks like this season will show who Alex really is……love when Kelly said Alex and Simon would “go to the opening of an envelope. Looking forward to some replys 🙂

      • Heather says:

        omg…^Jill is that you? I don’t think I’ve EVER read a “true” opinion that loves when Kelly talks…or well feels bad for Jill because Bethenny was so mean to her…tee hee hee hee hee hee

      • Yuck says:

        Except Kelly’s remark was swiped from Bethenny who first said the same EXACT thing about either Kelly or the Van Kempen’s (I can’t remember which).

        • Anne says:

          Bethenny said, “Simon and Alex would come to the opening of a door.” She didn’t say an envelope.

      • Yuck says:

        Also, how is it harsh to want to see someone react to a situation that SHOULD be perfectly harmless? OMG- let’s see how Jill reacts to the other invited guests at a wedding! ITRW, it would be a non-event because normal, sane people are on their best behavior at a wedding. Someone paid a fortune for your meal and drinks and you should be genuinely happy to be a part of a friend’s happy day. Ramona was right on. Alex was an invited guest. Her appearance should have been greeted with total welcoming from all the other guests- because she is a friend of the bride or groom and it is their day. Jill acted out- badly. Calling her names (doesn’t matter if she had the so-called good taste to try and do it off camera she still said those vulgar and ugly things) and making it seem like Alex was too lowly to socialize with this wedding party. How crass is that elitist bs? Ramona is not responsible for calling Jill and informing her that she should behave herself at a wedding. Ramona is not employed as Jill’s social secretary. Ramona is not responsible for anything but behaving herself (which she did not do but hers were a lot less malicious (touching the cake and gossiping about how she was affronted by someone else’s comments -and she got her reward- she was CAUGHT!) than Jill’s ugly and vulgar comments ON TELEVISION making some poor girl’s wedding a sad mockery). Welcome to reality tv where people enjoy it when the villains act villianously. Jill did an excellent job. By the way, Ramona showed a lot more shame at being caught gossiping than Jill showed when virtually admitting she did call Alex that name and accused her of being a social inferior- when they were invited by the same couple.

        • Anne says:

          Alex is not a friend of Jennifers’. She met her only a handful of times. Jennifer was in the first episode in Seasons 3 defending Jill to Bethenny. Bethenny said, “Is she the caterer?”

          Jennifer has known Jill for 15 years. Jennifer stated 14 and now we are one year in the future so she knows Jill for at least 15 years. She doesn’t know Alex.

          Alex went because this was a housewives event and Alex does come to the opening of a door. Thank you Bethenny for that line.

  2. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    It’s amazing that she is so much like that movie~single white female. Now she has died her hair black? She has not changed except that she is meaner & hanging out with Kelly which is really frightening. They are both so jealous of Bethenny it is unbelievable. I hope that B enjoys having a talk show & puts on a couple of pounds.
    Thank you Lynn & Q for the time & effort of our favorite guilty pleasures.

  3. error404 says:

    I think Jill HAS changed.

    s1 = annoying but happy, “normal”. Unfortunately, we all know someone who would complain that they weren’t invited to a dinner party they heard you had.

    s2 = funny, could laugh at herself, still able to smile even if a few things irked her.

    s3= nervous breakdown. OTT jealous rage over B getting spin-off and pretty much villainous plot to destroy her. Lost the plot big time.

    s4 = miserable. She can’t even go to a figgin party without having a nervous breakdown over another guest who might be there. We all go to wedding where people we hate are in attendance. Her reaction was not normal, healthy, or positive. Can’t even pack for a trip without busting into tears over a lost friendship that had absolutely nothing to do with the trip. She just seems so unhappy.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      guess that’s karma…in action. See what you get out of life when your “jillousy” is allowed to take over? Why did Jill do a squeeeze line, did she hear about Bethenny’s new line of shapewear? It’s such a cheap rip off it will blow my mind if Jill is successful with it.

      • error404 says:

        eh. I agree with whomever pointed out that all the HWs come up with the same crap to shill. Bethenny herself is like the 4th or 5th to burden an over saturated market with more skin care products. Maybe Jill was copying B, or maybe Jill is just as unoriginal as everyone else. In a way it makes 100% more sense, as Jill is addicted to spanx, and shapewear seems a contradiction to B’s “naturally skinny” philosophy.

        • quincyil says:

          I expect Jill Zarin to eventually comment on Bethenny’s eating disorder. I think it will happen and get a lot of press.

          • error404 says:

            LOL yes, I fully expect an article with quotes from “an insider source”. It is after all one of JZ’s nome de plumes.

          • Nancy says:

            So you are saying Bethenny HAS an eating disorder?

            • Zoey says:

              I don’t believe that for one second. I know a lot of people think she looks too thin but I think she looks fine. She is a petite woman/build, and very toned.

      • @tweatcyn says:

        yes she copied. bethenny’s is already available for sale, Jills is not even released yet. copy catter, dirty ratter

    • quincyil says:

      I think she means changed for the better.

      I think the producers did a number on Jill by taking her words to a producer and putting them in her mouth at the table under the tent at a wedding. The producers are out for blood and it’s Jill Zarin’s blood.

      There were articles last year about people in production hating Jill Zarin. Producers called Ramona and asked Ramona if she was going to to boycott filming with Bethenny as Jill was requesting. I think Jill has few friends in production and those people create the show.

      I am waiting for Simon’s blog on the McCord van Kempen site. He said it would be up today.

      In seasons one and two, he really had the best blogs. He put them on bravotv.com, but Alex is linking to his blog with her bravotv.com blog. They probably get money for the hits.

      I think more happened in the summer than Jill is letting on. I think she had a campaign to get Bethenny back.

      Jill saw Alex and Simon on a series of successful book tours when her own book was getting dusty in the basement of Zarin Fabrics

      Ramona tells us in her bravotv.com blog that when Jill sees others getting ahead, she freaks. They were all getting ahead and she was having the fall out from season three.

      I think Jill was fragile and that is why Bobby put his arms around her at the wedding and kissed her before she had to go and greet Alex.

      • AZ Girl says:

        I have a nephew in the film industry. The crews are used to taking some crap from celebrities but I am sure Jill is a royal pain to deal with. Time schedules and snafu like weather make it difficult to film period. You are right Q, Jill is going to get some heat this season from the producers. Something to look forward to.

    • Terry says:

      When you write it out like that, I feel sorry for Jill. Clearly she was horrid to Bethenny and now she’s paying the piper. Can you imagine having the entire country saying you’re a disgrace? She was, but still. She lost an important friendship (by her hand, yes) and now everyone hates her. It would be a lot to take in, especially when it was by one’s own hand.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        good to see you are making more sense on this blog Terry… I kinda got mad at what you were saying on the other one. You have a right to your opinion as long as you back it up with facts. You did, but most of us agreed with what Lynn wrote back to you. Welcome to the board!!

        • Terry says:

          Ah BlueSky! I agree that I make no sense. My hatred of all things Alex is nothing if not non-sensical. I really can’t explain why she pushes my buttons, but she does. And I do get that I’m not in the majority with regard to Silex. It really doesn’t make sense, I agree.

          Nonetheless, I hope you guys will let me play and post. It’s kind of exhausting when I have to explain the why.

          If I don’t get to play, I’ll only be able to on NY Magazine, where a few people happen to have the same NYC-based aversion to public schools and renovation basics.

          I hope you guys will indulge me already; it’s not like this is deciding matters of life-or-death.

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            We love to see people that disagree with the majority who post here, because that’s what makes it more interesting to see a completely different viewpoint! Sometimes it even makes me realize that I’m too judgemental. Everyone has a right to have their say. After you post for awhile, people get more where you are coming from. We need your viewpoint Terry, please don’t ever feel like you shouldn’t post!!!!

          • quincyil says:

            You are very welcome here and the diversity of opinions is healthy.

            I think Alex is Midwestern. She tries to fit in with Mahattanites, but is not readily accepted by Jill’s fabulous circle of people so she tries too hard. I know the feeling.

      • quincyil says:

        I had the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie on the board for weeks and we bring it back when she does something good.

        I believe that people come here to share their opinions and to read what other people thought. This board is as important as the blog itself. Everyone contributes. I think Lynn provides a forum with freedom and people give their valuable time to come here. There is no reason to write a blog if no one reads it.

  4. error404 says:

    LOL! Speaking of queens of mean:

    Joan Rivers just tweeted: “Japan has had so many aftershocks that, as a precaution, they won’t air the DWTS episode where Kirstie Alley falls down”


    I miss “Fat Actress”. It was hysterical.

    • Nancy says:

      I don’t like fat jokes.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        if anyone but Joan made them i wouldnt laugh but she pokes fun of herself more then anyone else its hard to get mad at her

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i couldnt believe they didnt do a 2nd season
      but i think at that time she had lost a lot of weight
      but it was indeed brilliant almost as good as The Comeback
      now that show i would campaighn to get back if i thought it would do anygood

      • error404 says:

        She still seemed pretty big in her reality show, which unfortunately was pretty dull.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          her weight goes up and down
          Shes always had a beautiful face to me and we used to be very chummy on twitter till i questioned her about something that took place on her reality show and she took offense to it and has never been the same with me since

          • TLM says:

            What did you question on Twitter? She never answered any of my tweets. But it was actually Kirstie and her “Twittervention” show that got me to join Twitter in the first place.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              there was a incident where her assistant who is gay was referring to someone as a big queen but i thought it was her straight handyman so i asked her how she could stand him saying that still thinking it was the straight guy
              and she was “so what if he did”
              and i was like saying well you know its one thing for a gay man to say it but its much worse for a straight man and she didnt agree i left it alone and apologized realizing that i was teh one to goof first mistaking who said it
              but she never chatted with me the same way again
              and we were chatting a lot

        • TLM says:

          I actually really loved Big Life…Lifetime picked it up and evidently is showing promos for Season 2. I was mostly hoping they would show that Australian guy, Nick, again. He was uncredited and I’m still wondering who he is, if he’s really Australian or an American actor who did a great accent.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            really i hadnt heard that at all it will be fun 2 see another season
            those lemurs kill me

  5. BlueSky_Forever says:

    Great blog Lynn & Q enjoyed it. I would like to see more of the business side of Ramona. She is a self-made success & she really could mentor those girls she interviewed whether they like it or not! lol Her assistant looked like a tough cookie used to Ramona’s ways. Wow I bet she has some great stories! That could be Ramona’s book idea, tell us your story Ramona. How did you get successful? What were the trying times you had? I would read Ramona’s life story. She could give good tips on how to interview, what’s appropriate to wear, how to be confident when you are quaking inside. “My life on the Ramonacoaster” could be a great title!

  6. Cusi77 says:

    I secretly suspect that when Jill and her sister Lisa pick up a stone that day to remember what they talk about immediately Lisa hit Jill’s head SO hard with that stone that now Jill is more delusional than ever!

    Jill, Just because you said you are a changed person doesn’t make it true! No matter how many times you repeat it WILL not make it true or believable!

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      lol I was thinking along the same line…maybe they picked up stones to use in future fights!

    • quincyil says:

      I collect rocks too.

      Jewish people put stones on grave stones. I have seen them do it in movies.
      The stone must have meaning to them. Perhaps, a stone lasts when we are gone? I bet someone here knows why this was important to Jill and Lisa.

      • Kukulet says:

        RE the Jewish tradition of placing stones on a grave marker. The tradition started in ancient times when grave markers or monuments were mounds of stones. Visitors would add stones to the mound to show that we are never done building monuments to our deceased loved ones.

        Grave markers have changed, but that’s the idea behind the placing of stones. 🙂

      • OneMoreInBoston says:


        “Even when visiting Jewish graves of someone that the visitor never knew, he or she may place a small stone at the graveside. This shows that someone visited the graveside, and represents permanence. Leaving flowers is not a traditional Jewish practice. Another reason for leaving stones is tending the grave. In Biblical times, gravestones were not used; graves were marked with mounds of stones (a kind of cairn), so by placing (or replacing) them, one perpetuated the existence of the site”

      • Zoey says:

        I collect rocks too, Q! When I travel that’s what I want to find, and when others travel that’s what I want them to bring me back. I love my rock collection from all over the world!

      • TLM says:

        The reason behind placing a stone on a tombstone is that it shows a living person paid their respects, and the deceased has not been forgotten. It shows tangible evidence that someone was there, as the wind didn’t carry the stones there. That is the basic reason for it. On a practical level, flowers wilt and die, or create waste around a gravesite that has to be cleaned, but stones serve the same purpose and can remain there indefinitely.

  7. WindyCityWondering says:

    Season 4 will likely show how the cast really can’t relate to or trust Jill.
    They all know she has her own agenda and that to cross her is to be subjected to a slaying like she tried with Bethenny.
    Jill has been reduced to an opening scene with the village idiot (who thankful appears to be on meds) to pour her poor heart out to while Kelly sits there concentrating hard on not looking crazy! And then her horrible behavior at someone’s wedding – who acts like that! Jill needs to hook up with City Cindy immediately – but Jill will not be able to be her mama nor will she be able to guide her career, lovelife or offer her a home/food.

    The truce with Alex theory makes me laugh – Simon loves the camera and would kiss a monkey’s butt if it got him more face time. Alex was and is the one in Jill’s sights and she knows it. The only reason for a “truce” (wink wink) is to end this franchise on a somewhat positive note. What I would rather see is Bravo slay Jill like she tried to slay Bethenny!

    • quincyil says:

      When the producers took Jill’s off camera remarks and put them in her mouth on camera, they were “slaying the girl.” All of her spoken intentions were shown to be lies. I bet that they are going to do this to her for the entire season.

      In the middle of the Jill Zarin Bethenny Soliliquy, we get and interview from Ramona telling us that Jill did this to herself. The producers did that.

      Jill Zarin was smiling on WWHL, but she must be the village idiot to this that the producers were not going to come after her.

      Shed Media came out of the gate and they made sure we knew the theme of this year’s season. Grin and Bare it… They are going to expose Jill Zarin.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        This won’t be pretty! But it will be a defining test for Jill – will she cope to her nasty or will she continue to blame everyone else for what she said and did?

        • housewifeaddict says:

          She mentioned that she watched the episode a few days ago in her blog – so she had time to think about those comments, and either cop to them, or justify them. On WWHL she tried to blame the producers, so I don’t have much faith that she’s going to change. She’s just very bitter that she was one of the most popular ones (season 1), and now she’s the most hated housewife of all times because of (in her mind) a fight with Bethenny and her “perceived” nastiness to Alex. She seems to think that if only she could “expose” them, she’d become liked again. But it doesn’t work that way. A whole lot of people don’t like Bethenny or Alex, but they really dislike Jill as well. I do think that if Jill was able to “own” her behavior (like Ramona and Bethenny and even Camille), people would be more neutral towards her.

      • Mimisfbay says:

        You are the best! An astute observation Watson. I just never get these subtleties until I read your comment Q and then it is like a window opening. Hmmmm could that be the gene that is missing in JZ?

  8. quincyil says:


    For the New Yorkers who don’t dress to slop the hogs or shovel out horse stalls….

    Alex has screen shots with the descriptions of their clothes and the designers.

    • Terry says:

      Oy! I bet she shows the blogs to the merchants and asks for freebies or discounts. Who blogs about their clothing for crying out loud?

      • quincyil says:

        Almost all of them mention the designers because they get loaned clothing and gifts.

        Kim Z showed up boxes coming from Guchi. She said they just keep coming in the Atlanta show.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        Bethenny does. She tweets it, because her fans want to know what she’s wearing. In every episode of her show.

      • LynnNChicago says:

        A lot of the housewives do, mostly on Facebook but they get dozens and dozens of people asking them what designer made their clothes and accessories. Based on fans asking, Alex promised that she would give out all of that information. She started doing it last season and has continued. It is easier than answering each fan one at a time, it is all there in one place so she can just direct future questions to one place.

        • Terry says:

          Wow. I didn’t know that. Well, I guess it makes sense for the designers to have people of some celebrity wearing their clothing. The designers do pay (I’ve read) actresses to wear their gowns to award shows.

          Well, I guess putting your life on TV should get you some perks. Good on them, I guess.

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            It’s actually embarrassing all the trivia nonsense that I know about the housewives shows! Nobody in my real life watches these shows. It’s like a secret obsession that I don’t dare reveal to them because then they will think I’m completely nuts. lol it’s really all the proof they would need to put me in rehab…Real City Housewife has a rehab center at RealityCrackHouse.com – her blog is a hoot. You know your addiction has taken over your life when you constantly check Lynn’s blog for updates, then go over the the crackhouse for a hit of RCH’s keen wit. Damn you Bravo, damn you but this is what happens to postmenopausal women over the age of 50 with too much time on their hands & an internet connection! For those of you not over the age of 50 & not postmenopausal….now you guys really have no excuse lol.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        they all do Jill
        people constantly ask all the housewives except you who does thier clothing

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      I love Alex’s sense of humor “the cat is wearing fur” lol

      • error404 says:

        ITA! I also liked the joke about her 1,000th glass of wine. LOL

        I can’t believe how much flack she was getting for a few glasses of wine. Geez Lousie, the world would probably be a better place instantly if someone slipped some rum into Jill’s diet coke when she’s not looking. Talk about making everyone else miserable because you have a stick up your butt. I’d need to be crunk to deal with the horror show that is Jill Zarin too! LOL

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i love thedress she wore to the wedding
      it was beautiful

  9. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO – a theory of sorts….Jill is having a mid life crisis coupled with an overwelming negative response to her behavior on and off RHNY, which is shaking the very foundation of who she thinks she really is as a person.
    She speaks of those who adore her – what? like a teenage girl adores Justin Beiber? She speaks of haters – those who do not adore her and everything she does – yet instead of trying to understand and change those opinions – she blocks them along with those who are not haters but merely curious – isn’t that hate by association?
    Maybe she is misunderstood or she truly does not know herself very well. We don’t know her as anything else than what she has chosen to show us – granted it hasn’t been very nice stuff – but good or bad, she still won’t own what she does and until she makes a genuine attempt at that nothing changes for her or those who watch her.

    • Adgirl says:

      I think your right. I am middle age now and to my right and left are panicked men and women who are confronted by unpleasant reality.

      It can be a nasty truth to face who you are. Jill isn’t ready. She might crack up if she takes an authentic personal inventory of herself. Jill’s family shield her from facing the “true Jill” as viewers of RHNY see her.

      • Terry says:

        I concur. I just turned 50 and don’t know what to do with myself. It’s a big turning point and it has thrown me for a loop even with hormonal help.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        It can be a nasty truth to face who you are==

        True. An unexamined life isn’t worth living or something to that effect.

        • Terry says:

          Yeah, I think the big turning points are difficult for everyone; must be more so when one’s life is lived in public.

          I can attest to the “change” being a troubled time. Intellectually I get that I’m not old yet, but I do seem to be turning a corner of sorts. Plus the hormones are not fun.

          I do feel for Jill in that sense. I’m looking back at the last few years and not liking a lot of things; Jill must be in a real crisis. Maybe that explains her Madonna get-up of the other night.

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            How many times did you get in the car, start driving….and then say to yourself “where the hell am I going?” That happened to me during menopause & still does on occasion when I forget where I am supposed to be going lol. My older sister explained it to me this way. When you have kids, you think you are going crazy. Then when you are in menopause, you find out you really are crazy! It gets a little better, after you get thru it. I don’t get those “shower sweats” any more. Imagine working out in a class at the gym, then after the class your head is dripping, your shirt is slicked down, & thank goodness you brought that oversized towel to mop up with! That’s getting a little better for me now.

            The best part about getting older is you really do forget things, which works out well as an excuse. “Really, I said I would do that last week? I completely forgot, please excuse my terrible memory problem.” I call it early onset alzheimer syndrome…

            • quincyil says:

              I go to the grocery store to get one thing and come home with bags and not that one thing.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I’m dealing with a “Jill” right now. IMO people like this have a very strange filter, where they start to remember things – or twist things – to justify their actions. In Jill’s mind she was somewhat more welcoming to Alex as a castmate (compared to the Countess and Ramona for sure) and never openly blasted Silex (like B did in a season 2 blog), yet all of Alex’s anger got directed at Jill. What she doesn’t understand is that her steady – behind the scenes – attempts to hurt Silex (like the amazon review, trying to get Bravo to pick her over Alex) were 1000 times worst than anything LuAnn, Ramona, or Bethenny ever did. Alex seems like an open, forgiving person, but everyone gets to a point where enough is enough, and there is no way she will ever trust Jill until she thinks Jill sincerely starts to like her, and is willing to accept her for who she is (as Ramona and Bethenny started to do eventually). It’s clear that whatever “fake” make up happened this season, Jill still has it out for Alex, and probably blames her for Jill’s decline in popularity. Jill is unable to see that her decline in popularity has to do with her behavior alone – and has nothing to do with her castmates. Once she owns her behavior, she may become less hated. But until then ….

      • ImaJillHater2 says:

        Regarding “people… have a very strange filter, where they start to remember things – or twist things – to justify their actions” – I think its called BORDERLINE Personality Disorder.

        I think JZ’s issues go waaaaay beyond just being a mean girl.

        • ImaJillHater2 says:

          VERY common for Borderlines to distort & rework the truth to suit their requirements… Its a hallmark trait of Borderlines.

          • Terry says:

            So are you saying Jill has borderline personality disorder? Isn’t that an ailment with behavior that is much worse — so much worse that it impairs every single relationship and every single job?

        • Nancy says:

          I think she’s true Narcissist.

      • Terry says:

        That’s an interesting take on things. I do agree that the backlash against Jill was due to Jill’s own behavior, particularly in regard to Bethenny.

        Still, I don’t remember anyone filming with Alex one-on-one for a very long time; Bethenny being the occasional exception, and now Ramona. I think Bethenny and Ramona film with Alex when they want to annoy Jill.

        People generally film with Alex in group settings. I get that.

        As to Jill making up with Alex, I don’t see why she should. Alex showed up to a party and delivered the “Bethenny said” message. It was horrible. I would not forgive that. It was intentionally hurtful and humiliating. I would not ever want to see Alex again after that.

        I get that people don’t like that Jill got up in Cindy’s business about the baby daddy and, yes, it was impolite. But it doesn’t compare to the Bethenny message of death.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I agree that Alex’s message and delivery was awful. Alex has tried to apologize for the message many times. Of course Jill was right to be pissed, and I never said she should apologize to Alex. I said she needs to own her behavior in trying to destroy Alex after the message was delivered, and trying to sabotage Bethenny’s new show. I just wonder why she can’t do that – or at least pretend to. Camille did (or at least pretended to) and public opinion of her changed a little.

          I don’t know why Bethenny and Ramona film alone with Alex. Could be they want to include her? It isn’t all about Jill. I like the scenes where there are more than 2 of them anyway. It’s not like any of them are real friends that do things together off camera (except maybe Jill and Ramona going to the same parties).

        • TLM says:

          How come people only seem to remember the Alex outburst at the TruRenewal party? There was the Saks event (which granted, wasn’t as bad but wasn’t the time or place to have it out about a story about her kids) and then of course, the whole scene at Jennifer Gilbert’s home where she came in guns blazing and stomped out, leaving the hostess baffled. Of course Jill freaked out at Ramona at the same party due to something she found out then and there, but Alex came in there with the intent to walk up to Jill and confront her. I guess Alex wanted to make sure she would be on-screen more, but I’m just not that interested in watching her anymore. There’s nothing more boring to me than someone who’s on a mission to make waves everywhere, and it seems very contrived.

          Did everyone notice the opening lines this year are all different except from Sonja’s “I have a taste for luxury and luxury has a taste for me”? Seriously, they couldn’t come up with a line that expresses something about her, but is different for the new season? ZZZZzzzzz.

          • dsc60 says:

            yeah… and jill’s is something like “whether it’s good or bad behavior, at least i own it.” that’s the gist of it anyway… couldn’t be further from the truth. i laughed out loud when i heard it.

      • Terry says:

        I know people like that: people who can’t cop to a mistake and apologize. It’s as though they believe apologizing is a sign of weakness. Watching it, these people seem quite immature. I wonder, though, if they were taught to apologize and take responsibility as children.

        Frankly, it’s not hard to say “Yes, I screwed up and I’m sorry” but some people find this impossible.

    • error404 says:

      I think she gets confused. She is who she is, yes. She’ll aways be the yenta who confronts ramona for not being invited to her dinner party, who will complain that the vet’s shows are cheap after he steps in dog crap strew all over her living room, that tires to pretend built a multi-million dollar fabric company from scratch by herself, etc… That is who she is. But that’s not what people are talking about when they say she’s awful. She needs to just suck it up, admit she lost, admit she was wrong to try and go after B and ALex, and be done with it. But Jill would rather kill her own career than admit she has faults, so we’re in for a long ugly fall from grace.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        It looks like Jill just cannot see herself as she truly is. It galls her to think people prefer Ramona (78 % !!) to her. She was spoiled by her family who taught her she can do no wrong. She has no self-awareness. Her narcissism is blatant…maybe it is borderline personality disorder. And guess what…you cannot change your personality easily. She is what she is. A nasty, vile, controlling, rude & jealous bitch. How does Bobby put up with her?

  10. Adgirl says:

    Ramona and Bethenny both had tumultuous childhoods. They both vowed to make it on their own. They lack filtering. They are both “damn the torpedoes” when giving verbal opinions. They are both scrappy survivors. They make their own money. They are completely inappropriate during job interviews. They can take a hit and keep on ticking. They are control freaks.

    These same reasons are what make them risk takers and entrepreneurs.
    Sometimes I think Ramona and Bethenny are like sisters.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      kindred spirit without a doubt – they get each other and are fun to watch as they successfully navigate the precarious situations of life.

    • quincyil says:

      As loving as Jill’s family seems to be, I don’t think growing up with Gloria as your mother was easy either. You all saw Gloria when Jill was buying clothes.
      I think Jill said that she had food issues when she was going to model for Zoi? in his own studio and that she had nothing to eat for days. There was an interview from Jill about eating there. I think that comes from Gloria.

      • NJ Bev says:

        What’s that saying about a Jewish Mothers guilt? Jill suffers
        tremendously from that, she aspires to make Gloria happy,
        and should know by know that she never will. she will never be
        “Lisa” . nuff said.
        I remember the episodes with the designer dresses. Gloria
        was mean. I still liked Jill in those days, and was off-put
        by Gloria’s continuous kvetching. i felt sorry for Jill in those days.

        Well, now Jill must live the failure of the ”book” which clearly failed because of Jills’ poorly timed anger with Beth. that
        backfired and I’m sure her Mother, the college Professor, and
        the genious sister , are VERY unhappy about.
        you can hear it now
        “well Jill, we had a guaranteed best seller until you decided
        to play God! by the way Jill, who told you to play God when
        you knew we had the book being released? what were you thinking Jill? Were you thinking Jill?? yadda yadda yadda

  11. The comedy continues. Jill deleted the comment that she posted earlier on Facebook when she complained about the WWHL poll and Bravo. She is claiming that she deleted some comments by accident. If you are reading this Jill, don’t worry, someone took a screenshot of those ridiculous comments so it is available if you want to post it again on your Facebook page….ROFLMAO.

    Jill Zarin: I was just posting and deleted some stuff by accidents. oops! Getting in shower to get ready for TV Land award dress rehearsal. My voice is gone and not feeling well. I have been reading lots of wonderful emails and posts from all of you about my outfit and episode 1. Mixed reviews but love all the discussion!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      At least she acknowledged “mixed reviews”. It’s hard to believe anyone thought the outfit was cute.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill really felt good in that outfit – young and sexy! For viewers to tell her she looked like a circus hooker, Madonna wannabe had to sting big time. This is just another example of Jill not listening to those who disagree with her – like do you think Ally would say, “Mom you look fabulous”?

        • Adgirl says:

          LOL. If Avery was Jill’s daughter then Jill wouldn’t be running around like the female version of an Elvis impersonator.
          “Mom! NO!”

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            exactly what I was thinking – Avery would tell the truth to Ramona, while Jill would ignore Ally’s protests/reasons.

            • housewifeaddict says:

              Well Avery would tell the truth to Ramona, but Ramona would be just as likely to ignore her and sneak out the back door wearing the outfit she wanted “snort”.

              But Jill’s outfit wasn’t even an outfit – it was a costume. She was determined to wear her squeeze wear on set, and she did it. The squeezewear marketing folks are the ones that should have talked her out of it.

          • lovemamaearth says:


        • NJ Bev says:

          Ally is at school and can’t offer an opinion,

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        well i did at first i liked the change in hair color and having always been a madonna fan that may have been what initially triggered it

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          speaking of Madonna have you seen recent pics of her? Her arms are so muscular they are gross!

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            things like that dont bother me
            she enjoys being healthy and in shape it beats those that have all the skin hanging off em

            • BlueSky_Forever says:

              Madonna is redefining how fit women can be after 50. Does she take steroids? She must be taking supplements to get that muscular definition! My son takes all kinds of things that he buys at the Vitamin Shop. He’s 16 & super fit. Works out like a demon, does track & football…he’s in great shape.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                she works out like a demon and i doubt she takes steroids as she has always been pretty much anti drug usage
                some of her trainers have said she takes the work outs very seriously
                for a woman her age her body seems to be in great shape

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      who on earth sends her positive emails
      i sent her back one once in reply to her “newsletter” and even that didnt get me taken off her email list LOL
      and TRUST
      i didnt hold back

  12. quincyil says:

    Patti Stanger and Jill just had an interesting exchange on twitter. Patti asked Jill about the producers and Jill asked why.

    At 11:09 I wrote:

    I think the producers did a number on Jill by taking her words to a producer and putting them in her mouth at the table under the tent at a wedding. The producers are out for blood and it’s Jill Zarin’s blood.

    “There were articles last year about people in production hating Jill Zarin. Producers called Ramona and asked Ramona if she was going to to boycott filming with Bethenny as Jill was requesting. I think Jill has few friends in production and those people create the show.”

    One more in Boston told me that she thinks a lot of the stars stop by. I wonder if Patty Stanger is looking around for information about her friend Jill Zarin. If you wanted to know what fan were thinking would you go to Bravo or Jill’s web site or would you drop down in this comment section? I am pretty sure that Jill Zarin has shared her feelings about this site with her BFF Patti Stanger.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      who can resist Lynn? 😉

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      when it came to boycotting a show i still dont know why miami was picked when it would have been so much better to pick Stanky Pattys show if for no other reason then the phone call seen around the world with Wig tearing into Bethenny for no other reason then Patti Likes Shrill
      why wouldnt she they have so much in common
      both being trash both getting vertigo in a gutter both dressing liek street walkers

      wait i take that back ive seen some hookers with better fashion sense then either

  13. vilzvet says:

    LOL, Lynn I love how you spell champagne like Champaign, IL! And let’s go Hawks and Rangers! Tonight’s the night…

  14. Terry says:

    Jill expresses her concern about traveling half way around the planet in a jet with first class accommodations, “I feel like I am going to be locked up in a tin can for 17 hours.” Kelly has no idea what Jill is talking about but immediately thinks it has something to do with Jill’s favorite drink, Diet Coke. “I’m going to have an anxiety attack.” Kelly is listening to Jill and twirling her hair, first with her left hand and then with her right hand.

    I’m not sure what ails Kelly, but it seems to run quite deep. She doesn’t understand references; she’s very literal. Remember when Luann said “let your hair down” and then Kelly actually did just that? Some people think Kelly likes to party and perhaps that’s true, but I think there is an underlying malady going on. I wish I could put my finger on it.

    • boston02127 says:

      And if you could put your finger on it, I bet you’d want to wash it.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      There have been a lot of examples like that, Kelly seems to have been sheltered and her mind remains like that of a 13-year old who wouldn’t have heard some of these sayings. Ramona said Jill will “eat crow” and Kelly didn’t get it, you’re right she takes everything literally (even though she doesn’t understand the word “literally”)

      She must have heard the saying, “making lemons into lemonade” but she didn’t know how to use it properly.

      Kelly’s mind is underdeveloped.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        she’s developmentally disabled….no doubt about it she’s a retard.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          No I disagree with both of you. I don’t think she’s retarded or that she is developmently disabled- IMHO she has autism.

          “Poor communication – Even people with mild autism tend to have problems picking up on the subtle aspects of communication, making human face-to-face interaction challenging. Body language, facial expressions, intonations and other non-verbal cues, as well as irony and jokes often gets lost in processing. This disrupts overall coherence and frustrates all parties involved. ”


          BTW- also explains why she’s always late

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            Asperger’s ? If so, it would explain a lot. I disagree about the “slight” autism though. She’s too outgoing IMO. I really think she just can’t keep up with the conversation because she is incapable of processing what people are saying (her mind is just not nimble). Plus she really thinks that she is a gorgeous, beautiful person & anyone that disagrees with her is a “hater.” Kelly had quite the reputation before getting on RHONY for being an insufferable airhead dope.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              never said “slight” and neither did the article.
              It says “Even people with mild autism …” as a generalization.

              And “incapable of processing what people are saying ” can be a sign of autism-not stupidity or retardation.

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                Also people with autism can be outgoing:

                “Lack of intimacy – A high-functioning individual can get through life very well, making friends and doing limited socializing, but it may be difficult to let that significant other through the innermost walls. This is not for a lack of want, but simply a question of not having the tools to quite get there kind of like how a deaf person can’t pick up the sound of a beautiful symphony no matter how much he wishes he could.”

                • PJ says:

                  I think you are right on in your assessment. As I said below Aspergers is a high functioning form of autism. You are correct there are different levels of function with autism. In fact one of the contestants on American Idol has stated that he has Aspergers. He is a case in point of a person with a high functioning form of autism, he seems to communicate and relate much better than Kelly. So the fact that Kelly is high functioning does not mean that she isn’t autistic.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                if it were true it would make me feel really bad about how much i have hated her on the show
                but i still think she is closer to being a paranoid Schizophrenic

            • PJ says:

              Aspergers is a high functioning form of autism. I have often thought that Kelly may have this since she is so off kilter with what’s going on around her. Her mind just doesn’t seem able to process and she isn’t grounded in reality.

          • Terry says:

            Interesting theories. I’ve also seen the hypothesis of schizotypal personality disorder. Whatever it is, it’s bizarre. She really doesn’t process things the way the rest of us do.

        • error404 says:

          there is something very “light in the piazza” about her, and we have seen her horse skills, so…..

      • Sammysmom says:

        Does anyone know how Kelly and her custody arrangement works? Does she have full custody of her 2 kids or does she share it will Gilles? I am not trying to be extra nosey (yes I am) but I don’t think she is stable enough to take care of her kids 24/7 yet she talks about how her kids are with her all the time.

    • TLM says:

      She doesn’t seem to understand metaphor, which is part of disorganized thinking and a feature of mental illness.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        Yes her problems seem to be wrapped up in some sort of mental illness too IMO. I do think she is a total ditz, but the way she can’t handle day to day life makes me think she is mentally ill too. How many addicts are self-medicating to stop the “noise” in their heads? So far this season it really looks to me like Kelly is on medication…she seems very dull & unresponsive to Jill in the bed scene. Normally any reference to B pushes her over the edge, but not this time. Her ups & downs on Scary Island put her in that bi-polar or manic/depressive category. I have a sil with bi-polar illness. When she feels better & stops the meds it is down right scary. It’s so sad in her case because she is brilliant. Even with her illness she is a wonderful person when the meds are working. It’s so hard to see her down cycle. Now I feel bad because I’m thinking about how heart breaking it is for my sil. Okay, now I’m not going to be so hard on Kelly.

  15. boston02127 says:

    Did anyone catch Jill’s new introduction at the beginning of the show? It’s something about being herself and owning it. She no longer says “I hang with a fabulous group of people”.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      the group is gone because she can’t own it!

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Anyone fabulous does not want to associate with Jill Zarin lol!

    • TLM says:

      She now says she makes mistakes and she “owns it.” I don’t see much ownership going on. She’ll say something wasn’t her fault 15 times and then spontaneously apologize, then subsequently go back to saying how it wasn’t her fault. That isn’t owning anything.

  16. Casey says:

    Jill has a new post on FB she is trying to sell her clothes on Ebay. Someone commented saying you should give the money to charity. Another commenter then wrote, Jill always gives to charity and on the selling site it says some money going to charity.
    I looked on the site but I did not see any info on charity. She is probably pocketing the money. After all didn’t she get in trouble for returning too many clothes.
    If she really wanted to give back she should give to the Japan relief. Isn’t that why she brought Ginger on WWHL in a Kimona!!!!!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      When people are donating to a charity then the charity should be named. By not naming a charity on her website – like Dina – people will ask where and how much is going to the actual charity. Live and learn!

    • quincyil says:

      Well, there is a blog on this site on this topic. Linda’s Stuff was selling some of Jill’s clothes on Ebay. In their advertisement, it said all of the money goes to charity. Later, on Jill’s twitter she said some of the money goes to charity.

      As Harvey, my pooka, pointed out. What difference does the pocket the money comes out of matter? We know she does give to charities.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I was wondering if Ginger was dressed up to hide a doggy diaper (so that she wouldn’t crap all over Andy’s set).

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        lol!! Brilliant observation…how stinky that dog must be. Andy couldn’t even pet the dang dog & when he looked at Ginger it was a look filled with distrust & disgust.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          and Jill gave Andy a framed picture of Ginger as a “gift” to put in the club house – how rude!

          • Zoey says:

            And when Ramona when to pet it Jill pushed her hand away and said ‘Don’t touch!’. That was a little bizarre.

  17. boston02127 says:

    About making fun of Jill’s weight. I am guilty of that. I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone. People in my life and people that I love and care about are all different sizes, religions, etc., And I am far from perfect. I poke fun at Jill because she was so cocky towards Ramona being in a fashion show and stating she’s a size one. Again, I’m sorry if I offended anyone or hurt anyone’s feelings. My snark is only meant towards Jill.

    • HD says:

      That was very nice of you Boston. I have my own weight issues so I am in no shape (pun intended) to comment on anyone’s weight. Having said that I did comment a lot on the outfit because it was a hot mess not anything with her weight but the oufit was horrible.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      No offense taken here – Jill is openly worried about how she looks and stating her alledged dress size when she is clearly not was not a good move on her part. I would be a size 0 too – if I could erase the 1 in front of it!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      You are sweet Boston. I understood that it’s the hypocrisy that you were pointing out. A lot of people have started to comment about Jill’s weight, age, etc. probably because of the squeezewear. I’m going to stick to her behavior, and that outfit. I don’t care what size she is – that outfit was a joke.

      As for Ramona, if she’s in her 50s and able to hide all her saggy bits in that tiny bikini – all power to her. Better than the much younger Kim Z popping out of her stage costumes.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      babydoll- no one took offense!

      As women, and especially at your age, we are completely judged on our looks- sometimes it just gets exhausting! So Jill isn’t perfect. Neither am I.

      I think Jill is attractive. And I think she has a nice figure. Her weight fluctuates- probably because stress effects her. If Jill had the personality of let’s say Mother Theresa- we’d all say how beautiful she is.

      But her personality is just UGLY UGLY UGLY!

      • Terry says:

        Yeah, I agree. I think Jill is very attractive physically. I’ve never seen her in person but I imagine she’s thin: bodies look quite different on television.

        • quincyil says:

          Our local news people look heavy on TV, but when you see them at the grocery store, they look great. I think the horizontal HD tv’s make people look fatter too.

    • TLM says:

      I don’t know if Jill is a size 1 or not, but I really have been shocked at the ugliness and severity of some of the remarks about weight, like her being a “fat pork chop” and the fat being squeezed up out of her top, etc. Besides being mean, these things just weren’t true. Her arms are thin and the top fit her well. Whether people thought it wasn’t an appropriate style for her, or too young, is another matter, and that is fair to comment on, but the other things that were said made her sound like a contestant on The Biggest Loser, and it just isn’t true. She is probably around a size 6. It seemed like these remarks were just intended to be mean with little basis.

      I never seem to hear these types of remarks about Nene, who has rountinely worn things that barely cover a very large chest.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        oh they have been said about NeNe too i hate when people here do that
        hate them for being obnoxious but the remarks about weight or looks are so mean

  18. WindyCityWondering says:

    Was anyone else alittle uncomfortable with the scene of Jill and Kelly? Jill had things to say, while Kelly had things to control. When there was no reaction from Kelly as Jill rambled on about Bethenny, I was waiting for an outburst, a change in her facial expression, something, anything in terms of her understanding or acknowledging the conversation. Creepy just sat there but I actually saw that she has pretty colored eyes (unlike the shiny pools of darkness last year) and that without the grease her hair and face look nice. Her meds are working and she got out her canned, rehearsed explanation of her behavior of last season. So if Kelly can change, why can’t Jill????

  19. boston02127 says:

    LOL, I walk in the door and RHONY is on again.

  20. boston02127 says:

    Lynn—Not long ago you had mentioned that the blog reached 2 million hits. It wasn’t that long ago. Since then you’ve had over 82k hits.

  21. ramonacoaster says:

    I think Alex went after Jill’s inconsistencies to make sure Bravo paid attention to and filmed the March for Marriage Equality which was a smart move on her part if that was really part of her agenda. At least Alex is learning how to be manipulative for a good cause and not just to tear someone down. Pay attention, Jill! You could learn a thing or two.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      If she did that was smart of her. Have you watched the clip on Bravo’s website about them getting ready for the march, and how Sonja was pissing her off by saying over and over how the event was all about her. Poor Alex – it seems like that is what may have led to the fight between her and Sonja that we’ve seen in the previews.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IIRC, Jill did show up, sans the wedding attire – there were pictures. Sonja getting on Alex’s case was interesting – since Sonja is a master of events, she could have given her encouragement, tips and support….

      • ramonacoaster says:

        Now that you mentioned it I went onto Bravo and just watched it. It probably does lead to the fight and something else probably happened where Sonja threw Alex out of her house. But it seems like they’re made up now. I also saw the video where Cindy and her brother are talking about Ramona and that may lead to Ramona v Cindy drama. Can’t wait to watch!

      • Terry says:

        I think Jill had decided that the march was “her cause” and that she was going to be wow, a huge advocate for gay rights. That’s why she got all up in Jill’s face about the wedding-out-of-town and the march.

        Then, when it turned out that Sonja was the master of the march, and was asking her friends to prop her up for her role in this, Alex got all offended that the thing wasn’t about all about Alex the Advocate of Gay and Human Rights, the Symbol of Freedom and Equality for All and Fairy Godmother to All Gays.

        Yet in Sonja’s shoes, I think I would ask my friends to prop me up and I wouldn’t feel guilty in the least.

        • quincyil says:

          I think Jill did not want to be with Alex and that is why she wasn’t going to the march. Alex and Jill were fighting in the reunion and then Alex got one phone call.

          I have a feeling that phone call was a doozie. After two people have a knock down drag out fight, they often don’t want to give air kisses and have laughs with that other person.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          was sonja on the commitee
          I know Alex was and she seemed to be organizing the event before Sonja seemed to know about the march

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      huh. I didn’t even think of that. Maybe that’s why she was so stressed- she was pulling a power move.
      Interesting observation, I’ll have to watch for more of those.

  22. terry aley says:

    So Taylor Armstrong (Real Housewives of Beverly Hills) hosted the grand opening of a salon. And I was trying to figure out why. So I Googled the phone number on the invitations and that same number popped up for a VIP escort named Melissa. That was unusual. Anyone have a clue why? Bizarre accident? http://terryaley.com/2011/04/09/i-was-innocently-looking-at-some-press-photos-that-came-through-the-photo-agency-today/

    • quincyil says:

      What is a VIP escort? Very Important Person …Like dating the stars? LOL.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I don’t think you have the option of knowing who had a phone number before you but that is a nightmare for the salon – as Alex would say, “Oddly Enough”? Glad Taylor is keeping herself busy!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Maybe Taylor is an escort.

    • Kukulet says:

      If the salon is new, maybe the phone number is also new to them, but the public listing is still showing the previous holder?

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Maybe the “salon” is a front for the escort business.

      Taylor and Peggy and Alexis are all so much alike.

  23. LynnNChicago says:

    Jill Tweeted:

    Jillzarin Jill Zarin
    Watching Preg in Heels. Is she deaf or have speech impediment? I can’t understand her. Does anyone else notice that? Or is it just me?

    Lots and lots of negative comments followed back to Jill. She insulted a lot of deaf people and people with speech issues. Sigh…Jill will never learn

    • LynnNChicago says:

      @JillZarin: This personal branding expert just ruined her business. She looks like moron

      Jill’s tweet re: Pregnant In Heels
      Look who’s talking… lol

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Wow – the irony must be so lost on her. Maybe WWHL will pop up on her screen and she’ll start tweeting about the moron in squeezewear with a poopy dog in a kimono and a pony tail.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        is that a case of “projection?” lol

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      ROTFL_ omg I said the EXACT same thing! But then again I’m not a celebutard

    • AZ Girl says:

      Ha! this is so great.

    • error404 says:

      OK I’m lost. In what parallel universe is it ok to criticize shows from the same network as your’s?

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      I cant believe your making me defend Shrill
      Lynn people on your blog were asking the very same thing if i recall correctly
      it went from speech impediment to all sorts of accents i myself guessed irish

  24. boston02127 says:

    I’m watching the part with Ramona interviewing. If I was the girl that Ramona gave the skin care product to, I would have ever so politely asked her “is this what you use” then would have said no thank you to the “gift product” and left it on her desk. Sometimes you can give a polite zing without people realizing it. Sort of like telling someone to go to hell and saying it in a way where they think they’ll enjoy the trip.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Brilliant! That girl was too timid to think of that but I’d love to see someone do that to Ramona, it’d be hysterical watching her fact as she tries to figure out what just happened.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Those poor girls. I wonder if they knew what they were in for – and on camera too!! Can you imagine having all your friends watch.

      • error404 says:

        I can’t believe I’m tough this hot topic again (some people have no kind of sense!) but why did they agree to do it indeed! My cynical nature is convinced they were all struggling actors glad to get pay for 5 minutes on film.

    • Terry says:

      The poor kid was just out of college. I don’t think she knows that this is not acceptable yet and it’s unlikely she knows how to defend herself in a work situation. I felt for her and for Tunisia and the other one. They’re young kids.

    • jillz68 says:

      I am glad you said it because I was thinking it! Maybe it is because I just got high def tv, but her skin looked awful during that part of the show.

      I was cringing during the interview scenes. It was very blunt and a bit harsh but I agreed with the message, just not the delivery.

  25. HD says:

    In watching the show again, while Luann was with dinner with Sonia did Sonia say that she had a good girlfriend that used to date Jacque? (Sorry if this was discussed) Maybe I was hearing things.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      lol – wait until Sonja realizes she “dated” Jacque too!

      • HD says:

        lol Luann had this look on her face when she said that like, “why did you even mention that?” Which if she did say that I don’t know why she mentioned it but I sure loved it seeing as how Luann made a point to make sure Sonia mentioned Max to Kelly.

        • California35 says:

          Lol very good!!! I didn’t remember Lulu pointed it out that time. She did give Sonjia a look when it was about her though lol

  26. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s tweet~~ @allyzarin what time are you coming home? I don’t feel well. Can you walk @realgingerzarin please???

    Don’t rich people have dog walkers?

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Don’t they have phones to call their daughters?

      • boston02127 says:

        LOL and don’t they call their dog Ginger and not a twitter name like @therealgingerzarin?

        • Kukulet says:

          Who publicly tweets their kid to find out what time they’re coming home and if they can walk the dog? That’s just bizarre. Surely Ally must have a phone?

          • Kukulet says:

            Seems that Jill wants everyone to know she doesn’t “feel well”.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              That dog hates Ally so it’s tacky of Jill to ask. Get off your depressed ass & walk it yourself, Jill.

          • TLM says:

            Wasn’t she the one who accused Bethenny of everything being too public in her life? Does she not realize she could send her daughter a text instead of a tweet to the world that their dog needs to be walked?

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        seriously do you see that many people talking on phoes anymore as compared to texting
        i may be one of the last w/o a cell phone and no desire to get one or text for that matter
        that being said Jimmy and I went to a concert not too long ago in Montclair NJ which is a pretty nice area and after the show we went all over looking for a pay phone to call for a cab
        there arent any in the entire town
        actually there may not be any in the entire state of NJ
        we live about 45 minutes from the place we were and went into panic mode
        thankfully we found a group of workers in a small rest that helped us out letting us use thier cell phone to get the cab and wouldnt even take any money for it
        thier really are some great people out in the world

      • Need a Hobby says:

        It’s more twitter marketing/PR…her followers think they get an inside look into the intimate daily details of Jillz’ daily life. It’s theater.

    • California35 says:

      Wait!!! She could call or text her that… It had t be on twitter….of course she wants us know that she is not doing well.

  27. boston02127 says:

    Jill—“I see Alex & Simon get out of the car and my heart dropped” Jill can give it but can’t take it.

  28. Casey says:

    Check it out Jill and Simon are tweeting back and forth regarding Jill’s sold summer house. I think she is pissed. I am trying to figure out the tweets. This is hilarious.

  29. boston02127 says:


    The Spoon: A lesson on how consultants can make a difference in an organization.

    Last week, we took some friends to a new restaurant, “Steve’s Place,” and noticed that the waiter who took our order carried a spoon in his shirt pocket. It seemed a little strange. When the busboy brought our water and utensils, I observed that he also had a spoon in his shirt pocket. Then I looked around and saw that all the staff had spoons in their pockets. When the waiter came back to serve our soup I inquired, ‘Why the spoon?’

    “Well,” he explained, “the restaurant’s owner hired Andersen Consulting to revamp all of our processes. After several months of analysis, they concluded that the spoon was the most frequently dropped utensil. It represents a drop frequency of approximately 3 spoons per table per hour. If our personnel are better prepared, we can reduce the number of trips back to the kitchen and save 15 man-hours per shift.”

    As luck would have it, I dropped my spoon and he replaced it with his spare. “I’ll get another spoon next time I go to the kitchen instead of making an extra trip to get it right now.” I was impressed. I also noticed that there was a string hanging out of the waiter’s fly. Looking around, I saw that all of the waiters had the same string hanging from their flies. So, before he walked off, I asked the waiter,

    “Excuse me, but can you tell me why you have that string right there?”“Oh, certainly!” Then he lowered his voice. “Not everyone is so observant. That consulting firm I mentioned also learned that we can save time in the restroom. By tying this string to the tip of our you-know-what, we can pull it out without touching it and eliminate the need to wash our hands, shortening the time spent in the restroom by 76.39%.” I asked quietly, “After you get it out, how do you put it back?”“Well,” he whispered, “I don’t know about the others, but I use the spoon.”

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      omg- I’m literally (thanks Kelly) wiping my tears!

      OK I did that all wrong. Lemme try the HouseWives way:

      Am I peeing my pants right now?
      Am I LITERALLY wiping away my pernicious and precarious tears?
      YES I AM!

    • klmh says:

      Another great one Boston! Tx

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Funniest thing i have read in eons LOL

  30. ramonacoaster says:

    I loved watching the WWHL aftershow with Jill & Ramona and a Clubhouse studio audience member asks Jill if “she’s drinking a SkinnyGirl margarita” and another audience member from Kansas City tells Ramona “I voted Team Ramona.” That’s gotta twist Jill’s guts. Tee hee!

  31. Adgirl says:

    Remember OC? LOL.
    Peggy Holistic-with-Silicon and her hubby have a life size wax figure of Al Pacino. How weird. Their house was foreclosed on so I don’t know where exactly Al is hanging now.


  32. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Oh man- I am watching MeatLoaf flip out.

    Intermittent Rage Disorder always makes for good TV. always.

    • error404 says:

      What’s most shocking about Jill and Kiki is not how crazy they are, but how stupid. If it was all for show, how could she have been bullied? They both tell so many contradictory lies that any effort at spin gets nullified. Do they not realize that the only thing we viewers know for sure is that they are both pathological liars?

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Well clearly Jill thinks it’s fake – that’s why she pretends to be nice on camera. Unfortunately the producers are on to her and keep the audio rolling off camera!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      How unique! Jill and Kelly show us their worst behavior and then say it was fake – wink, wink! Me thinks they are the only two people who watched RHNY last year that believe that one.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        How does Kelly get to be authentic if it’s all fake? And why don’t these lies get them fired?

  33. housewifeaddict says:

    Lynn – you should consider changing your background to the WWHL Jill outfit. You can’t make that stuff up!!!!!

  34. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    “Jill tells viewers, “I can’t fight with Alex again. That fight with Bethenny took too many years off of my life. ”

    Sadly not enough of them as this bitch is still breathing

  35. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    “I still love her to a certain extent in some weird, sick way. ”

    this may be the one and only time that Jillousy has said something with a hint of truth
    as the only way she knows how to love is a sick and weird way

  36. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    The ladies pause to admire the beautiful wedding cake and Ramona notes that it is melting in the Hamptons heat, Ramona sticks her finger in the frosting to the horror of the others.

    does anyone else think she did that to just see how badly it was melting that was my first thought

  37. elisa says:

    Have any of you watched the videos of Andy critiquing his assistant’s clothes/hair? He’s put them in his blogs a couple of times. I just realized that’s what Ramona was doing. She completely copied Andy’s critique session. Andy even includes staff, as Ramona did. Of course, Andy had an established relationship with his assistant, and hopefully, the guy was ok with it/found it funny. But who knows what Ramona was thinking–that’s a normal way to treat and employee/prospective employee, or that’s great tv… She was working an angle, I think.

    I completely agree that Kelly is not healthy. I wrote Andy a sincere, concerned, scolding email last year. No response, of course. But I don’t think it’s any form of autism spectrum disorder. I’ve worked with kids with autism for many years–it just doesn’t look like that. But something is wrong, and the literal thinking is part of it. Maybe some other processing disorder, maybe drug abuse, I dunno…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ramona was definately riffing on Andy’s video with his assistants. Only her assistant made the connection that these interviewees were not comfortable with the process – being interviewed is stressful enough, having a camera in your face with the interviewer going off on tangents had to be hell.

      Whatever Kelly’s issues are, this season IMO, she will be handled so she doesn’t feel she is in precarious situations. Sometimes I think she freaks out because she is in the company of successful, mature women and she knows she isn’t close to being their peer. NO way do I buy she is “acting” – she would have been discovered a long time ago if that was the case.

      • Cusi77 says:

        Windy_ You are one of the most funny, intelligent girl in this board! I admire you very much!xoxo Let me tell you that you are always “spot on” and I enjoy reading your comments!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Cusi – your picture is next to the word sweet in the dictionary! Love you right back!!

    • neroes says:

      elisa, I agree. I’ve worked with both mentally and physically disabled children and adults for 20 years. I don’t think its autism either. Could be drugs or maybe an injury to her head sometime in her life. Maybe she fell off her horse and hit her head. There is definitely something wrong with her processing.

      • quincyil says:

        Kelly is a twin. I know of a boy from a set of twin that had difficulty in delivery. I always thought Kelly might have suffered in her birth slightly. The boy I know is unusually happy and slightly delayed with problems of association like Kelly. It’s only a thought. I just wondered why she is like this.

        • Kukulet says:

          Arrested development.

        • boston02127 says:

          I’m a twin. I have a twin brother, one minute older. We’re nothing like Kelly. We’re both normal and both (not bragging) have done well in school. We’ve both made honor roll thru grade school & hs. We can carry on a conversation without sounding like morons, we were brought up to speak up for ourselves. We’ve never been competative with one another, we’ve always watched out for each other and respect each other. We’re not perfect and we’ve both made mistakes. But neither of us are anything like Kelly.

          I don’t think Kelly’s problem is a twin thing. I think she’s dumb, just plain old dumb and maybe drinks too much and has been babied all of her life. I can’t even imagine Kelly balancing a check book.

          • boston02127 says:

            Another thing about being a twin. My mother could not stand when people would ask her if we were “natural” twins. She thought it was rude.
            (we are)

            I think Jill asking Cindy those personal ?’s was rude.

            • quincyil says:

              The delivery of twins is more dangerous, Boston. The boy’s birth was delayed and he had problems. Carrying multiple babies is higher risk.

              • AZ Girl says:

                I think you are on to something about the natural twin birth. There is something odd about Kelly not being able to following a normal conversation. Maybe she did suffer from the twin birth. I.E.: the conversation with Luanne and the “what do you do to let your hair down” question. She took her hair clip off and shook her head. The Bethenny “I am up here you are down here” conversation was later revealed that Kelly was trying to say that they did not run in the same social circles. Kelly’s conversations with her daughters regarding the Playboy pictures. She did not understand what Sea was trying to tell her about keeping her shirt on. Seriously, Kelly does have some type of learning disability.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Or maybe she just never grew up! She liked being a teenage girl so much she decided to stay one. I feel sorry for her daughters because she will be in competition with them when they hit puberty.

        • okeydoekey says:

          She already is. She wears their clothes.

        • Zoey says:

          I’ve often thought that. It seems her growth, emotional and ?? some other processing parts, were stunted at maybe a pre-teen age. It’s all about what’s hot or cool in her world, it’s how ‘fun’ everything is, nothing should be taken too seriously-unless it happens to her. The narcissism of a teenager for sure.
          Maybe something happened to her to stunt her maturity and growth and she’s mentally stuck at that age.

          So let’s have a new show, showing each housewife going to therapy!

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      One of my friends has a son who is a darling, very smart, and he does has Asperger’s. When he was around 2, I thought he was showing signs of autism. He would jump in a corner for the longest time, then look at a phone book, the numbers fascinated him. He did not relate to anyone. It was very hard on the parents, trying to deal with the situation because they were in denial. However, my friend is the best mother on this planet. She is the reason that he got thru school, even went to college & has a degree. You can imagine how hard it will be for him to get a job. He needs a very caring boss & coworkers. Yet if you knew this kid, you would adore him as we all do. Kelly is not autistic imo. She has major problems…we can see that!

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        but honey- there are different degrees and types of autism.

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          I just remembered something about my friend’s son. He had a fall from a 2nd story window before the age of 2, thankfully into a bush below, but no one could ever say whether his later problems were from his birth (also long & difficult), his fall, or something congenital. So this could help in explaining Kelly. We don’t know if she had a fall that could have affected her brain as a child. Or if during birth, there were complications (or even during gestation). It seems to me that she’s had her problems for a long time. She still manages to have friends like Russell Simmons, go to parties, manage her kids with the help of the nannies lol etc. When she got overwhelmed on Scary Island we saw her fall apart. When people challenge her, or make fun of her, she really flips out. Her inability to comprehend complex subjects/conversations brings on the akward social interaction.

  38. Nancy says:

    One cannot give something away that they do not have. Therapy 101.
    Jill doesn’t have kindness therefore she can’t give it away.

  39. WindyCityWondering says:

    Andy’s poll question on WWHL was interesting because he could have done the usual, who is your favorite/least favorite housewife. He chose to annoint Ramona the other team captain – and we all know how much Jill hates to lose to Ramona in anything! Tennis matches, seating at fashion week, Bravo sponored trips…..oh Bravo Andy is a sly fox!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I wonder if she’d have been the most popular off all of them? I suppose they didn’t want to take the change of Jill beating Alex in a poll. I wonder how the general public views both of them. A lot of people seem to still hate Alex … not me … for some reason I really like her.

  40. Adgirl says:

    Who watches Flipping Out?? I just saw this. Jenni has a teeney part on the daytime soap Young & Restless.

    “Flipping Out’s Jenni Pulos will recur in May as Mother Tucker and Ashley’s wedding planner!”

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I didn’t know that blog was for sale 😉

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Come on! Give them one good (cough, cough) review – no one else did! They got one whole star! An Emmy is around the corner!

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I thought NY was way better than DC or Miami – even without Bethenny. Jill delivered for me. I really like it when hypocrisy is exposed. As long as they don’t exploit Kelly’s crazy again I can watch.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            NY is better than DC or Miami. I haven’t really thought about ranking the franchises like the blog did. But I did miss Bethenny and would have loved a talking head or two from her.

            • Dani says:

              I missed Bethenny too. The great thing about Bethenny is she say’s what she thinks of someone. She would be calling Jill out this season if she was on the show. I can understand why she would not want to be on the show with Jill. She certainly doesn’t need the likes of Jill in her life at the moment.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            better then dc
            Not better then Miami
            just as good
            it will never be as good as when Bethenny was on
            but its great that both shows are doing well

  41. boston02127 says:

    Odd that Jill doesn’t have one good girlfriend or family member that would speak up to her. If I dressed up like Jill did on WWHL my bff would absolutely tell me I look crazy.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      totally – my bff would be laughing her ass off at me!
      I wonder what Mommy Gloria thought about it – screw chiffon, her daughter is wearing her underwear on tv!

    • FlowerPower says:

      All her fans and supporters told her to wear it? With fans like those who needs IHJZ???

      If I were her, I’d suspect them all of being spies from this board and block them all.

      Oh, wait. She still thinks she looked good…..

  42. LynnNChicago says:


    This is hysterical! Don’t miss the tiny mini video of Kelly in the upper right corner

  43. lillybee says:

    I am looking for more producer cuts of Jill as the season goes on.

  44. housewifeaddict says:

    Wow Lynn – the hits keep rolling in – over 4000 more since Boston posted at 2. It would be great to hear from some new posters!!!!

    • quincyil says:

      I think Lynn is going to have record hits. I think people will flock to this site for the freedom to post their thoughts. Many posters bring information too so the board is rich with links and news.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        You are a large part of that too Quincy – I love your recaps!! and stories !!!

  45. Dani says:

    I would say that I can’t believe the audacity of Jill Zarin, but I can. She is a narcissistic, ugly, mean, nasty b*)ch. The great thing about Bethenny is that she knew she did not have to say anything negative about Jill, because she knew that Jill would hang herself. Just like she is doing. Bethenny knew that the viewers would see Jill for what she really is. She doesn’t do anything for anyone that she does not expect something from them. I have to say that I really do hate Jill Zarin.

  46. FlowerPower says:

    Just checked out Simon’s twitter page. Holy cow, he’s making a lot of digs at Jill Zarin. He keeps saying he doesn’t give out spoilers. Is that why he didn’t say anything earlier about Jill’s horrid comments at the wedding (I’m assuming they saw the episode before it aired)? It seems like two seconds ago he was defending making peace with her.

    This is the snarky/funny Simon I found amusing last season, not the kiss-ass I was afraid we’d have this season. Still not sure what we’re going to see during the show, but it seems from his comments tonight that any “peace” is purely strategic.

    • quincyil says:

      I think they only learned about those comments a few days ago when they got episode one. If Jill said them to a producer and Silex didn’t hear them, they would not know. I think that is why Simon is so upset.

      Alex is not reacting to the dress comments or the verbal attack from Jill, but Simon is. I don’t know why that is happening.

      He was supposed to have his blog up at their website, but he has been on twitter and the blog is not up. He promised it yesterday. I thought his season one and season two blogs were great so I have been waiting.

      If you watched Simon push Alex to go over by the girls at the cocktail party and he kissed JZ at the parkinglot when they arrived. I think the reason he is freaking out is he did make peace, but he did not know what JZ was doing behind his back.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Simon and Alex have a different definition of the word truce than Jill has – and they are likely learning her definition now.

      • FlowerPower says:

        I was really wondering about that. It irked me at the time that he was pushing Alex to make nice. (I wasn’t thrilled with his pissy tweets directed at Bethenny last week either, but lmao when Alex told him no drinking during lunch!)

        These two are really getting to me this season. Not sure why. I think I’m afraid I gave them too much credit last year for being more genuine than maybe they are. Haven’t made up my mind yet.

        • FlowerPower says:

          My biggest problem is I want to like people and then end up bitterly disappointed! LOL.

          • error404 says:

            LOL! They are what they are IMO. They’re kinda pretentious, and therefore what you see on RHoNY is the real them. NYC is full of yuppy parents who force their toddlers to learn French for no apparent reason, and then proclaim them geniuses. In Silex’s neighborhood, every other house has “genius” like Francois. They really are a typical Brooklyn family, and it always cracks me up when people either proclaim them horrible or wonderful.

            • housewifeaddict says:

              Oh that isn’t only happening in Brooklyn LOL. Even in my suburban town the amount of kids that were geniuses or extra special was huge before they entered kindergarten. Then us parents focus on sports. Then by high school we’re just happy if they talk to us LOL.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              well Lynn met them and seeed to think they were pretty good people
              thats fine enough for me
              and simons been very nice to me on twitter i find him to be warm charmining and witty

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                now DJ- Disclaimer-I’m going to tease you a little here:

                Is Simon “charmining”? does that mean squeezebly soft?

                Simon is my Prince Charmining!

        • Yuck says:

          For me- Alex and Simon made me uncomfortable in the early days. They were just so out there with their NYC fabulosity. But, after awhile I just kind of liked them better than most anyone on the show. Yes, in my world they are nutjobs with their fashion and love of socializing. They may even be social climbers. I just liked that they had the most genuinely mutually supportive relationship that I can recall on reality tv. They are into weird stuff but they are firmly in it together. I think they like each other. I am fascinated at how their relationship works. They have a cool ebb and flow between them I find totally charming. The more I see them, the more charmed I am by them. For me, I prove the truth that all the world loves a lover.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I don’t know if he is freaking out. He seems to really like any attention he can get.

        If — Alex and Jill make peace on camera, but Jill continues to be mean with the producers or in talking head shots – Alex’s popularity will soar. We’ll have to see how this plays out.

      • kbinldo says:

        That just tells me that Simon was sincere in doing his part to patch things up with Jill, all the while she’s calling his wife a f–n bitch behind her back. I can see why he’d be upset at that. Perhaps Alex isn’t saying anything because she suspected it all along.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          Shrill keeps insisting that as the season goes on you see a change and they become good friends

  47. error404 says:

    OT, but someone above said that only B and Ramona film alone with Alex. Not true, Jill used to film alone with Alex right up until the big fight in Dull Jen’s loft after Jill cried in the Pantry. She had just been alone to Alex’s house like a week earlier, and she’d been there alone before in s2. In s1 Silex were very much one of Jill’s “projects” like when she and Bawby took them out for dinner and recommended schools.

  48. If you had it like this says:

    Sonja just tweeted this article and confirmed that she throws Alex out of her house in the next episode.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I like her again after reading the article. We’ll see how the scene plays out – but in the end it is clear they’ve made up and are friends.

      • If you had it like this says:

        Yeah, they are clearly still “friends”, whatever that means to the world of reality. I’m just so curious to see what Alex does that warrants being thrown out!

        I remember on Scary Island when Sonja, post Jill ejection, says “Wow, we just threw a friend out” and seemed unsettled by it….

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I liked Sonja last season – and now RHNY is clearly a source of income for her in these troubling times. Just hoping Bravo doesn’t take her to a place she can’t come back from.

        • Zoey says:

          I read somewhere-maybe on this blog-that she declared bankruptcy to clear all this legal mess out of the way before she gets her big ass settlement from her ex. So she may not be strapped for money for long.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        I feel the same way and she is not mean to any of the cast and is even sweet enough to say that she misses filming with Bethenny

    • error404 says:

      ” I had to throw her out of my house during one of her venting sessions, but that was only because I had other guests coming.”


      Is she saying she didn’t eject her, but just asked her to leave so she could get ready for other guests?

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I think she’s saying that she’s happy to listen to Alex rant when they’re alone – but she prides herself on being a hostess – so she had to ask her to leave. We’ll see.

      • If you had it like this says:

        I know. I don’t see Alex going all Nene on her or anything. Is Alex going to get that out of control that she has to be asked to leave?? That would be kind of hilarious if Alex turned into a table flipper. I would lmao. Oh, dreams…

        From the looks of the episode 2 preview I watched it seems like Sonja is making the march all about her and Alex takes offense and gets on a high horse about it being about the cause, etc., etc.. yada, yada, blah, blah…

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          well shouldnt it be about the cause and not any of them
          as a gay man im thrilled that they would support it thrilled and greatfull
          none of them should turn it into something ugly

          • quincyil says:

            The ruin fashion shows and dinner parties. I am not surprised if they forget about the cause and think about their hair and makeup for this event.

            • error404 says:

              Jill wasn’t going because it was a daytime march. Did you see her make that puke face of hers when she heard they were walking over a bridge? Now, had it been indoors with a step and repeat and some lamp chops to take home to Ginger, now THAT’s an envelope Jill will go to the opening of, and tweet about it too!

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                i thought the puke face was a dig at Alex because the walk over the bridge to Brooklynn

          • error404 says:

            JMHO but “socialites” (real and imagined alike) go to tons of charity parties and focus 100% of their attention the their outfit, the food, who else was there, etc… I don’t think any of them give a seconds notice to whatever disease or dull impoverish child thingy it’s about.

            This is just another example of how they are “up here” and Alex is “down there”. It’s like “Can you imagine focusing on the cause, like that matters? You know what it is, it’s declasse. That’s what it is, declasse. Alex is just so common. When is Jill going to get her fired already.”

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              wonder when Shrill is gonna realize that the more she does that ,the more it looks like its the other way around

              I cant wait till Ally is old enough to turn to her mom and say
              yes with this money i can get away from you and everything that smells of Fabrics

              you think because you put on designer duds you can turn into a lady but you cant
              you will never be more then a common frump

              Jillousy Pierce

            • kitkat says:

              ha ha! LOL…clap clap! 🙂

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i think what she was saying is she threw her out because of the venting and she didnt want it to continue and ruin a party for the other guest

  49. Dani says:

    I just ordered Skinnygirl Shapewear from Bethenny’s website. Just wanted you all to know that it is free shipping for a limited time. I will let you know how I like it. I also want to let you know that I will be wearing it under clothes, unlike Jill I won’t be going out in public wearing it as outer wear lol.

  50. quincyil says:

    Dear Jill,
    You are a very busy girl. Fighting with Simon and tweeting with Patty Stanger over producers. I am impressed with your ability to keep up all of these fronts in your many battles.


    • California35 says:

      See that’s why she needs notes, she does so many things and to so many people that she needs to keep track somehow lol

  51. Zoey says:

    I tweeted Andy that I think we need to see some scenes of Jill in therapy. The people want it! Hey, she copies everything else B does.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hi @ Zoey – as a tweeter could you please also let Andy know that the comments meant for Jill’s Bravo blog are here and that they all managed to get posted? He should be interested in a balanced opinion on his alledged breakout star. Thanks, from the non tweeting WCW!

  52. Nancy says:

    I’m, once again, board on a Saturday night so I decided I’ll look up the word Narcissist.
    A pattern of traits & behaviors which signify infatuation & obsession with one’s self to the exclusion of all others & the egotistic & ruthless pursuit of one’s gratification, dominance & ambition.

    Does this sound like anyone we know?

    • California35 says:

      Lol –
      Hi – I’m up too. I was curious to see Kelly’s Playboy pictures…and I jus saw them. She does look differen. She is photogenic not pretty 😛 both face and body look so different from what we see on NYHW and her twitter pictures.

      • Nancy says:

        They were taken years ago. She was still with her husband Gil.
        So much for authentic eh?
        Could you imagine being married to her? What was he thinking?

        • error404 says:

          He is just like her. I approve of such matches, as it makes the world safe for other people. Divorced, they are free to ruin the lives of countless others. Thank God Kiki has an 11 year olds aversion to sex.

          • Yuck says:

            Sorry- “an 11 year old’s aversion to sex”. That actually made me laugh out loud. I’m stealing that line.

  53. chismosa says:

    ok i’m still reading comments from up down and it will take me super long so in case anyone can answer me this or direct me to where above it says it: Jill used to own the house the wedding was held at? Is it the same house she filmed in the past seasons? (where she kept Bethenny from being on the streets and homeless….)?? Or another house from another time?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Yes! The wedding was at the house that Jill used to own. and yes it is the house we saw Jill staying at w/Bethenny. Jill didn’t own it while they were filming Seasons 1 and 2 though, she had sold it by that time but part of the deal was that she got to use it for 2 summers after the sale.

      • error404 says:

        Not exactly. She did sell it with a 2 summer claus, and did film in it in s1, including her “famous” 4th July pool party (which always reminded me of Hyacinth Bucket’s famous candlelit suppers). By s2 her 2 years were up and the “roof she put over Bethenny’s head” was a rental.

        No idea what they are playing at now. She openly admitted to selling the house on RHoNY and it doesn’t make a lick of sense to be upset that the current owners were letting Bravo film a wedding there. She often refers to having unloaded it on the eve of the market crash as an example of their “real estate genius”. :rolleyes It’s not like she’s pretending to still own it, so who cares if they film there?

  54. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~

  55. VAgirl says:

    Hi BaBee and Boston. I’m closer to you this morning BaBee. I’m in southwestern VA. It’s supposed to be in the 80’s today.

  56. FLurker says:

    Off topic but as I did not see this elsewhere on the blog — NY Times article as to how Thomas Kramer’s Miami house is offered for rental and has been for years — so much for the Kim Zolciak “friendship” which we all knew was concocted!


    • quincyil says:

      I think it is interesting that his neighbors in that exclusive area have been battling him in court and with authorities for years and she said he didn’t know about the laws. He also had women make accusations that he did things to them inappropriately. I would stay far away from him if I lived in Miami.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        and lets not forget his getting arrested for molesting and underaged boy how is he free to roam the earth

  57. boston02127 says:

    O/T Help? Has anyone ever used Rit Dye? I have 6 curtain panels. Should I use 6 boxes of the Dye and do them single? And will the washer be ok when I’m done?

    Thank you.

    • quincyil says:

      I was in charge of a girl’s dorm when people dyed blue jeans blue again and it did affect the washing machines. People who followed had clothing ruined.

      I would buy a cheap plastic garbage can and do it outside with a hose. Wear gloves also.

      • error404 says:

        I used to do it all the time, but gave up. You’ll never get a deep color. It’s really only good for pastels. You may be able to die them back to a version of the light blue and cover the fade, but you’ll never in my experience get them a deep plum no matter what the box says.

        I’ve done it in the washer many times with no problem. You have to run the washer empty once afterward to make sure all residual dye is gone.

        I’ve actually never tried to cover up one color with another, so I can’t speak to that. I suggest doing a test with a cloth you don’t want to keep.

        I’ve had good luck with tie dye t-shirts, but less luck dying white “painter’s pants”. I found that a little of the dye comes out with each wash until they are no longer the color.

        • error404 says:

          It’s a risk, especially since quincy had bad luck with the washer. But the big advantage is that you’ll get even color int he washer due to it;s size and agitation. Curtains are big, and it’s really difficult to get even coverage unless you can swirl it around by hand in a big drum vat or something.

          • quincyil says:

            I have dyed silk screens and there was a chemical that we added to the water before putting the cloth in. I think they dyes may be different too. The grocery store dyes just arent’t that strong.

            Wear old clothes when you do it and be sure to clean the washer. There are actually washer cleaning products at the grocery story and you should do that every once in a while anyway as you should do it in empty dishwashers.

      • butterisafruit says:

        Boston, I do know Kool Aid is used often with yarn and t-shirts. You need to use vinegar as a moderant. It’s very successful. I don’t know about other fabrics.

        • error404 says:

          LOL! That is actually quite frightening. It sounds like using vinegar and food coloring for easter eggs, but it’s just funny to think we feed kids a beverage with so much dye in it, you could revamp your sofa. What does it do to the lining of your stomach!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i never had any success with rit dye
        they never came out the color they were supposed to no matter how long you let then set

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Do them all together. That will insure they’re all evenly colored and have the same color. In yarn, it’s called “dye lots” — they dye skeins in batches and different batches can vary slightly in color or intensity.

      Rit has good instructions on the box. Do run an empty load right after your curtains to rinse out residue.

      I’ve dyed with Kool-aid and Jello too. I’m a knitter (I say that sort of like saying I’m a leper — its a hobby that’s become an obsession) and have dyed all sorts of things with all sorts of dye stuff. Always an experiment!

      If your curtains are sun-faded, the fiber is likely weakening. Have you heard of sun rot? It’s when the fibers get so worn (maybe it’s like bleaching or baking) by the sun that the fabric begins to break down. They’ll tear easily when that happens. So dye them and get a little more time out of them, but know they’ll need replacing in the future.

      Oh, and wear rubber gloves with the dye. It can stain your hands, but worse is that all the dyes (yes, even the Koolaid and Jello, but they have very tiny amounts) are not good for us. No sense absorbing toxins you can easily avoid. (Once rinsed, your curtains will not be toxic! LOL!)

  58. butterisafruit says:

    well I just debunked my own post…..

    Best Answer – Chosen by Voters
    You really can dye wool fabric or yarn with Kool-aid. The acid dyes in the food coloring work great on wool. They do not work at all on cotton: they will wash out quickly, leaving at most an ugly stain. Don’t try to dye cotton or polyester fabric with Kool-aid, unless you’re never going to wash it.

    You can also use Kool-aid to dye silk or nylon. They don’t dye as brightly as wool does, but it will work. These dyes won’t work on any other kind of fabric.

    To dye wool or silk or nylon with Kool-aid, dissolve one or more packets of Kool-aid in one or two quarts of water in a stainless steel saucepan. Since Kool-aid is full of citric acid, you don’t need to add any other acid, such as vinegar. Immerse the fabric in the dye water and slowly bring it to almost boiling, then hold it at around 180°F for half an hour. Afterwards, rinse the wool in warm water.

    Here are two web pages all about using Kool-aid for dyeing….
    Using Food Coloring as a Textile Dye for Protein Fibers:

    How can I tie dye with Kool-aid or food coloring?:
    3 years ago Report Abuse

  59. AZ Girl says:

    Good luck Boston! I know nothing about dying and it is probably for the best I just say “Good Luck”

    • Dani says:

      Boston I tried to dye curtains that were faded by the sun and they fell apart. I live in Phoenix and I have to buy new curtains almost every year for a bedroom that gets a lot of sun. I even bought white one time and they faded. Good luck with yours.

  60. butterisafruit says:

    Romana just tweeted that it’s so nice to be in the country but they have to go home. I told her to bring home a rock.

    I’m going to hell.

  61. WindyCityWondering says:

    WWHL – just watched the rerun they changed the poll results to Ramon 59% and Jill 41% – sorry Jillious you still lose! How does Bravo put up with her?

    • AZ Girl says:

      This is so messed up. Jill just does not get that we are smart enough to know she put pressure on Bravo to change the numbers.

  62. OMG! I just finished watching the rerun of WWHL, they changed the poll results. Originally the results were 78% Team Ramona and 22% Team Jill on Thursday night. This morning, the poll results were 59% Team Ramona and 41% Team Jill. Bravo caved into Jill and did a recount. Unbelievable!!!

    • Kellita says:

      That is so crazy that they did that!! I hope somebody calls them out on it. Do they think viewers are stupid and they can just rewrite history?? Ugh Bravo.

    • firepainter says:

      I can just imagine the tantrum Jill threw to get the results changed! She just can’t get it that people see through her. She’s really pathetic.

    • error404 says:

      LOL! was there any mention of dangling chads?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      just unbelievable! The pettiness of this woman! Like this was the poll results for the presidency! She is so f*ing full of herself! AAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH!

      • Zoey says:

        At least she’s still in the ‘L’ column. It’s not horse shoes! She’s either a W or an L, and we know she’s a big old ‘L’!!!

    • California35 says:

      Are you guys kidding??? Wow. She is something else!!!!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Ramona still won by a large margin. WWHL has messed up on lots of polls in the past. There was one about hottest house husband, and Ebong didn’t win the first time around. I knew that was a mistake LOL

  63. Dani says:

    I can’t believe that Jill got her way on the poll at Bravo. How much longer are they going to put up with the Queen of Mean?

  64. Zoey says:

    In looking at the link posted above to Jill’s Ebay clothing for sale, I hate to be picky, but I wonder if that dress has been dry cleaned before being resold. In the picture of it from the rear I see creases that would occur when one sits down, and on the front view, left shoulder. I see a few dark/blackish marks. Yes, it’s a pre-owned dress so may not be perfect, but it should be clean.

  65. ChiTownRocks says:

    I just found this site and I am already in love with it. The blog is great, witty and funny and the comments are witty and funny as well.

  66. Noreen says:

    Has anyone checked out the posts on the Bravo Blog0?. 99% of the posts are positive. Everyone just loves Jill. I think I could puke. I can’t believe that Bravo doesn’t have the stones to show the truth. How can we trust anything they post.

    • Bravo is caving into Jill’s demands this season. They are posting mostly positive comments on her Bravo blog and they are recounting poll results. I am wondering what will happen next. Will Jill start demanding that Bravo re-edit the show to show her in a good light? *rolls eyes*

      • Casey says:

        This just really gets me so annoyed. Jill gets away with murder. But on it is interesting that on her own FB page many people keep writing negative comments. If she keeps deleting these people she will have no friends following. And thank god we have this blog and the RH of NY Bravo facebook to write on and not get scrubbed.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I scanned the posts for Alex too – and they were hugely positive – so maybe they do that for all the housewives. If they treat them equally – I’m okay with that. If Jill is getting special treatment then ….

      Either way, I don’t read the comments over there anymore. I like the conversation format here better.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I will say that at work (public agency) we’ve been told to keep (never delete) all comments (except obscene or otherwise inappropriate) on our facebook page. The feeling is that if someone posts something negative on your fb page and you delete it, they will just go somewhere else to post it. But if you respond and try to explain the situation (like why the road has potholes, etc) then you show that you are being respectful and do care what people think. Maybe I should send Jill the contact information for our social media folks.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      of course they are
      she writes them all herself LOL

  67. California35 says:

    Good morning. Everyone, I over slept and it feels gooood!!! 🙂 of course I feel like a lazy person, but I took care of all my shores yesterday. My only plan I have today is to do some reading and some TV watching. A place of Yes has been waiting for me to read, and I found the Kennedy series. I had no idea what channel, and this weekend I found it by mistake, and today it is showing all day.

    I hipe everyone has a nice day!

    • California35 says:

      Woo!! Something changed on my “quilt” sorry – it was still me California35

      • Nancy says:

        Where in Calif do you live?
        I slept in too.

        • California35 says:

          California about an hour away from LA. Where do you live?
          Maybe we both overslept becaus we both were up late last night I saw you 😛

          • Nancy says:

            San Fran but I have a sister that lives in Moorpark but I call it Boorpark.
            Remember, it’s a school night so off to bed early.

  68. quincyil says:

    Alex and Simon’s home and the show…

    In season one, Bethenny was shocked that Alex and Simon had moved into that house and the floors were torn off and the woodwork had been stripped.

    This is my guess from reading about their lives in their book, articles and looking at the house in the show.

    Alex and Simon had a modern renovated apartment in Manhattan. As their family grew, they wanted a touch of green for the children as they both grew up in rural area. That was not an option on the island of Manhattan because homes like that of Sonja are extremely expensive.

    I watch a lot of real estate shows featuring NYC.. I think the couple probably looked at options and realized that the Cobble Hill Area of Brooklyn, close to the bridge to Manhattan was being renovated and was considered an up and coming area for young families.

    If you have looked at their house tours, they have their main living area on the first floor of a Brownstone with a white facade. Their bedrooms are in the basement. Yet , you can see that there are two stories about that first level. I think they bought a brownstone with two rental apartments. They fixed up the rentals first so they could get additional income to help with the mortgage and their own renovation. There are HGTV shows that do this all of the time.

    While doing that they had the basement which had low ceilings dug out and they added two feet to the home. We see them in that family area with a large stone wall behind them when Jill and Alex talk on the phone after the Page Six article where Alex is falling down drunk.

    From views in the back yard, they have pushed out a master suite on that lower level and added to the kitchen on the main level.

    They changes the entire design of their house moving what was originally a main floor bedroom to a push out basement suit.

    Someone thought it was odd that they lived in the house during the renovation. If rentals cost 5,000 dollars or more a month and it takes 8 months to renovate, that is a $40,000 that you can use for furnishing and decorating.

    I don’t think the time frame is unreasonable as they were doing a great deal of changes that were structural with new steel posts, new drywall, new floors, new windows, new door, electrical and plumbing.

    Alex and Simon are on a television show so they have to have fancy clothes that is part of their work.

    Jill can afford a Hamptons rental while her house is renovated. Other people can’t.

    After reading their book, these are parents who are protectived of their kids and they were probably showing the cameramen the work being done if their kids were on screen. I have built. My kids came to the construction site with me.

    Bethenny used her humor to describe the house under construction. It’s a tv show.

    It seems very reasonable to me that they managed this huge project and were successful. They had done it before and knew some of the pitfalls. They expected to have a lot of the dirty work done while they were on vacation. It’s not the first time someone’s contractor didn’t finish what they said would be finished.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Alex and Simon created a home. The end results makes it worthwhile and the construction chaos fades quickly from the memory. Their brownstone looks amazing even if it not my taste.

    • California35 says:

      Quincy, very good information and great points.

      I always thtought about the fact that they are a young family and they are thinking about their young family. Once they were done with the whole renovation of their house, they would be set. Yes, they were spending in clothes and trips, but we did see that they were not going over board on trips and they needed the clothes because they were on the TV show and going to events. Other than that it seems that they are living within their means, and I for one prefer to live in a “lower” part of town to be able to have $ for other things like raise my children.

    • error404 says:

      What you say is true. However, it is also true that houses just like theirs are co-ops. Maybe they own the upstairs and have additional. Maybe they don’t. What I never understood is why Alex has an estimated worth of only $400k. The house alone is worth 1 to 2 $million, assuming they own the whole thing.

      Most bklyn brownstones have bump outs in the rear. It always seemed to me that they didn’t add on, but only rearranged the spaces more efficiently. The construction as I understood it was to open up the rear to the backyard with windows/doors, not to build an addition. Who knows…

      The fake stone resurfacing on their brownstone has always driven me mad. I would have forgone the fancy oven, or a few nights out to restore the facade, but that’s just me. It really cheapens the house IMHO. But… if it’s a co-op and not sole ownership, then they are not free to change the facade at will, so…

      • quincyil says:

        I read a discussion of the white bricks and they talked about changing the front. I think its take time and money and he just changed businesses.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        oh id kill for that stove

    • housewifeaddict says:

      However they are spending their money, we haven’t heard about bankruptcy or foreclosure yet, despite the renovation as the bottom of the housing market was falling, and despite both of them losing their steady jobs. Hopefully they can hang on through the tough times. I suspect by now many of the clothes are given to them for the exposure of being worn on TV. Maybe that’s why so many of the housewives wear the same dresses at different events.

  69. Adgirl says:

    So it took 24 hours for Jill’s employees to text enough additional votes for her to tighten the results on the WWHL poll? Then she demanded a recount?

    Are the votes tabulated in Florida? Somehow, I have visions of hanging chads …. LOL.

    • HD says:

      Right! I literally cannot believe she took it that seriously and that Bravo actually did a recount! Are you freaking kidding me?!

      • Nancy says:

        One more time…
        A pattern of traits and behaviors which signify infatuation and obsession with one’s self to the exclusion of all others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one’s gratification, dominance and ambition.

        I wish I could have provided a picture of our lovely Shrill but I can’t find one.

      • California35 says:

        That is exactly what I thought…. She is freaking unbelievable!!!

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Just more proof that Jill has NOT changed.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            It makes me wonder if Bravo does things like this (show the real Jill over and over) to make us dislike her more. And posting so few of the negative Jill comments make no sense.

            The Bravo site could get more hits if we got to have our say.

            • firepainter says:

              This is why I never bother with the Bravo site. It’s as phoney as Jill is.

              • lovemamaearth says:

                I rarely go there. I feel like they don’t respect the viewers enough.

                And Jill is so ugly inside that I’m not watching NY. I’d love to see the Alex & Simon clips but Jill makes it unbearable. I’m so disappointed in her nastiness/claiming to have changed stuff.

            • Nancy says:

              I agree with you it makes no sense.
              Why does Jill have so much control at Bravo? I hope the editors keep up the good work though.

              • WindyCityWondering says:

                I wondered if there were “trigger words” – so I have tried not to use negative ones – same results – no post!

                • HD says:

                  I just don’t think Bravo is every going to post anything from one of us which kind of led pretty much all of here in the first place. I used to think the same thing that maybe if I didn’t use certain words they would post my comments. Then I thought maybe they have my email registered or something as being a negative poster. I don’t know but it is highly frustrating.

                  • lovemamaearth says:

                    I agree. Good thinking on the trigger words, Windy.

                    I recently read Lynn’s tweets and followed some links to see how much heat she takes for being truthful.

                    Kudos to Lynn and thanks for this blog.

  70. California35 says:

    Simon posted his blog about the first episode.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It was rather tame and stating the obvious – next week may be different!

    • California35 says:

      Real Housewives of New York – Episode 4.01 My Take
      Apr 7th, 2011 by Simon van Kempen.
      So after the obligatory Season 3 recap with, dare I say it, the only glimpse of Bethenny we’ll get all season (unless it’s another flashback) we’re off and running. How have you all been without your weekly RHoNY fix? Did Jersey, DC, Atlanta, Beverly Hills, Miami and most recently the OC tide you over until the NY wives were back?

      The first montage of the new season is “Mad 46” and I’m wondering if that’s prescient; are there 46 mad moments to come? Ramona’s hosting a party and we discover that’s Jill’s been suffering anxiety over seeing Alex & me again. (We hadn’t spoken with her since the season 3 reunion). I had heard that they were soon off to Australia so; to try and dissolve the tension I helped them practice their Aussie accent for their impending trip.

      We then hear Jill tell others that “Alex had over reacted”. Presumably she’s was referring to her own revolting digs at Alex at the last reunion. And if she thinks Alex over reacted I’d like to ask her how she would have felt if those barbs had been thrown at her? Perhaps I’ll get my chance later…….

      Alex invites the group to a March for Marriage Equality that we’ll see next episode and while Ramona implores Alex to lighten up as “it’s a party”, I certainly respect Alex’s earnestness for this cause.

      Across town over at Jill’s we hear Kelly’s first high pitched squeal and we hear the 2nd of Jill’s statements of redemption, as she tries to distance herself from how she was last season. Love the emphasis on REAL friend. When Kelly said that “you just don’t go on a tail spin” I think she was referring to Ramona but it was also pretty self-referential. But now we get into the nitty gritty and Jill exclaiming confusion on why Alex was being distant with her. “All I did …in the past was try to share my friends…with her” and if that were the case what could Alex possibly be upset over? Is this how history is rewritten??? Oh, Jill you might try to convince yourself (and Kelly) but there are over 2m people in the USA and millions others across the world who think differently. I could make a list here of the things Jill said both to us and to others about us. But what fun would that be. Many of those comments are taped and in fact as I write with season 3 being repeated on Bravo, Jill’s being shown saying many of them.

      I now understand why Jill felt that Alex was overreacting at Ramona’s party, as if you really believe that all you had done was try to share your friends but if you can’t acknowledge your sins, I see no upcoming redemption from Alex.
      One thing where Jill is correct is that there is some great shopping to be had in Sydney, so I am not sure where Kelly went when she was visited Australia.

      Again it seems Jill is confused about the reason for the downfall in the friendship between her & Bethenny categorizing as happening because Bethenny had married and had a child. Thankfully Ramona in a talking head was able to chime in with some sanity.

      Next Alex & I are in our home office, and in this scene you see me as Tech guy, Tea guy and Trainer guy. Alex & I are both so lucky that after almost 12 years we still love being in each other’s company. New York Model Management signing Alex was a wonderful thrill for her and me and just last week her first big fashion editorial debuted in The Block Magazine. The magazine is out on newsstands and a portion of the cover price is being donated to Japan. Some of the pictures can be seen here and you can judge for yourself whether Alex fits Kelly’s definition of pretty versus photogenic.

      So far so good, the barbs thrown are ones to be expected. So let’s see what happens as we join the 1st occasion all 7 housewives are together, but first we pause to meet Cindy and get a low down of Cindy’s downtown nature. Would you believe that for the 1st time since RHONY started, the Upper East Side’s representation is now down to 3 out of 7? I wonder is we’ll ever see Brooklyn get another or Queens, Bronx or Staten Island as there is a lot more to NYC then just Manhattan?

      As you see we were the last to arrive and as we do Kelly gets a chance to chime in on both our art buying ability and that we’ll attend the opening of an envelope. Oh so funny AND original. All I can say to that is pot meet kettle. This party was an event that was filmed for a show that we are on, so whatever envelope was being opened that night was done so by ALL the cast. This was a strange night as there was a huge pink elephant in the room and maybe after next week I’ll explain why. Funny that we spent the entire night without speaking to a soul, ah, the power of television. I managed to avoid removing my shoes but had to endure cleaning Ramona’s feet which I dare say is probably better than kissing them! Jill is Jill, & no, not being a PI Kelly, being rude by asking such personal questions on her first meeting of Cindy. And I’m glad Jill could tell that Cindy was uncomfortable answering, too bad she didn’t realize that before engaging her mouth.

      I’ve got to call Ramona out on her interviewing skills; rude, condescending and frankly inappropriate. Any HR director would have had a fit! Mind you I couldn’t imagine having my first interview out of college filmed for a television show, & even if I did I think I would have checked out Ramona on line before signing the release. I do hope none of the young women were too harmed once the episode aired.

      Frankly the next scene, the double date, was some needed light relief. Whatever I think of LuAnn she & Jacques seem genuinely happy and that’s to be cheered. And Jacques exclamation of his love for LuAnn was adorable. The double entendres about LuAnn’s garden? Not so much.

      Would you ever have imagined after season 1’s “Girl’s Night” or Season’s 2 argument where I called Ramona & Mario hypocrites that we’d spend a night with them in their Hampton’s home? The previous night the four of us had spent a great night having dinner (off camera), something we’ve done many times since. This scene is the first we hear about Jill knowing/not knowing about Alex & me attending the wedding. The bride & groom were Jennifer & Glenn, whom you saw us all having lunch at Ramona’s in the opening episode of Season 3. For weeks we’d been hearing mutterings that Jill was livid on two counts. One that we were attending and two, that the reception was being held in the home that she & Bobby previously owned (and filmed at) during the 1st two seasons. This included her calling up the bride to complain and I hope we get to see Jennifer get to weigh in on that in a future episode.

      After breakfast Mario went off to play tennis and so Ramona came to the wedding in our car and when we got out we see Jill’s reaction followed by her talking head where she said her “heart dropped” Why?

      But then we hear the first of Jill’s spin. First she says that Jennifer had told her that we were coming and that she got confused on her voice mail message to Alex. Honestly, all that confused her, was that she was being called on her BS, both in respect to her complaints about our attendance at the wedding, as well as the Marriage Equality March. Ah yes, she’s changed!

      The Ramona/Howie cigar incident just proves the beauty of Reality TV. Why Ramona decided to tell us there & then and the fact that Carol & Howie turned up right behind us to hear it all? That’s just one of the many coincidences that happen in real life.

      At the reception we get to hear Jill describe how involved or not she is with the March for Marriage Equality before continuing by stating “that fucking bitch Alex McCord has the nerve to come to me at the church………she’s a bitch, look at her she’s socializing at a party that’s so above her” Ah yes, she’s changed! So I’d really love to know from Jill why this wedding was so above us. And perhaps she can advise me on what one of her secrets is when invited to a wedding. Dear Bride & Groom, Thank you for your invitation to your wedding but before we can accept, could you please advise us of your net worth and/or social standing so we can deduce whether it is appropriate for us to attend. As we wouldn’t dream of attending if we feel that you’re above us. Best, Invited Guests.

      Incidentally, I am aware that Jill is stating that the fucking bitch line was said to a producer rather than to another wedding guest, as if that makes it alright??? When really all it explains is that Jill has ‘changed’ but only when in front of the cameras. Yes, that’s so real!

      Alex & Ramona join Jill under the verandah and Alex again calls Jill on her BS. Trying to quiet down the situation Jill states that she’s “happy to see Alex”, and this just after she’s called her fucking bitch.

      Anyway that’s the end if the 1st episode and all I can say is watch out for the next one. It’s got fireworks & egos and fireworks & egos…..

      If you have question about what either Alex or I wore this episode then here’s Alex’s fashion blog complete with screen captures. Also we’ve launched the 1st in a line of “Thug In A Cocktail Dress” merchandise; the first is a tee shirt that’s made in the USA of high quality cotton which explains its price. We had a choice to go cheaper but wanted to help keep jobs local. Also 50% of the proceeds go to Housing Works I’ve already been asked on Twitter why only 50% and my response was to let me know when the rest of the cast give away 50% of their merchandising proceeds, we’ll review what we’re giving.

      I’m not sure whether comments are working here so I’ll post this on our joint Facebook page and ask that you post your comments there.

      Posted in: NEW!, Season 4 Blog.
      Tagged: Alex McCord · Bravo · Cindy Barshop · Jill Zarin · john bartlett · Kelly Killoren Bensimon · LuAnn Delesseps · Ramona Singer · Real Houswives ·

  71. WindyCityWondering says:

    Maybe Bravo should throw out the poll that Jill had such a problem with and just ask one simple question: “Has Jill changed?”. Or maybe, “Do you like Jill?”. For some reason she doesn’t understand that it is perfectly alright if not everyone likes/adores you. Until she has a poll where she is the only one on it, she will continue to believe her own bs…..

    • lillybee says:

      Jill is still the same. I still blame her for shutting the TWOP thread after Amazon broke.

  72. Adgirl says:

    I always laugh off the casts complaints about editing because obviously they had to say or do the stupid thing in the first place. I still feel strongly that the ladies personalities portrayed accurately, but perhaps the producers are being unfair by not giving us balance.

    After Jill’s improved Bravo poll results, I am really wondering about how much the Bravo shows are uhmmm “massaged”.

    Do you guys feel manipulated?

    • mimi0210 says:

      Isn’t is odd that only Jill’s fans were impacted by Sprint?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      totally manipulated and have stopped trying to post there!

    • error404 says:


      I think the producers edit to support their “vibe” from having met the women.

      EX: Countless LuAnn’s tag line. She said she said “I don’t feel guilty about being privileged, I give a lot back through charity” but the producers edited it down to “I don’t feel guilty about being privileged” to make her look worse.

      Having watched Lulu in action for 3 plus seasons now, I am convinced that all the producers did was cut out the bs and show a statement that accurately reflects who she is, despite what she actually said.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And that initial tag for Alex is why people see her as a social climber. It is interesting that they changed the tags this season.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      We’re manipulated, the cast is manipulated. Bravo’s main goal is to create an entertaining show – so each cast member gets edited a certain way. They wanted Camille back for a second season, so they redeemed her (a little) in the lost footage and last episode, but only after her lawyers got her out of her contract. I suspect we’ll see the same edit for Jill – awful until the last episode or two, so that she has enough incentive to come back for another season.

  73. housewifeaddict says:

    I enjoyed Simon’s blog. Very straightforward and to the point.


    I kind of wish he’d tell us more of the behind the scenes stuff, but I suspect there is very little contact between Alex and Jill, so there isn’t much to tell.

    I really wonder why Jill didn’t want the wedding at her old house. I’d love to hear what Jennifer (the bride) has to say about everything. I’m going to agree with Simon that the shot of Carol glaring at Ramona after overhearing the gossip at the wedding was priceless. The clip on bravo’s website has Howie explaining it to Cindy, and I wish we caught more of Carol being “dragged away” by Howie. I take it Carol wasn’t really Ramona’s friend – her finance was, and perhaps Ramona was upset that Carol had moved on. I’m hoping to hear more about that story.

    Now I’m glad we didn’t have to see footage of Simon cleaning Ramona’s feet after the paint party. Yuck.

    • quincyil says:

      Little contact, but Ramona will tell everyone everything that she hears.

      I think Ramona told Alex and Bethenny what Jill is up to.

    • error404 says:

      I guess he’s really busy! Not only was it late, but full of errors. 😛

      I too wonder what the BFD is with the wedding being at Jill’s old house, but then again, Jill makes such a big deal out of nothing, it’s probably just another of her turrets like rantings.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Thinking maybe they edited out her countless references to it being her old house and slipped the Alex remark in as a STFU already.

  74. WindyCityWondering says:

    Imagine Jill going on and on to the crew about her castmates and how they feel as they try to do their jobs with her sewerage in their ears. For me – Jill’s words to the producer being included is both justified (she hasn’t changed) and satisfying (because she was forced to own it). Editing takes what it is given and creates the story – Jill says she has changed and while we all know she hasn’t, now everyone knows it as well! That editing coupled with her fashionless underwear statement on WWHL – best season premiere episode ever. If I could stop laughing I would say I still hate Jill Zarin.

  75. error404 says:

    The shear depths of Jill’s moronic insanity never cease to amaze me.

    Lots of people say hurtful things they regret int he heat of anger. Having been caught on camera calling Alex a f-ing bitch, she could have either just let in go under the radar, or simply given one of her “I was angry, I regret it now” fake excuses. But nooooooo….

    She makes a big deal out of letting everyone know she said it off camera, so she now seems 1. totally fake, 2. persona non-grata with the producers, 3. shamelessly unrepentant, and 4. an f-ing bitch for reals.

    Having made a fool of herself with her crazy obsession over Alex’s attendance at a wedding, she could have fobbed it off with one of her lame “I was upset because it was the first day of Ally’s last week at home before school” or whatever. But nooooooooo….

    She goes on to call a 2nd castmate an f-ing bitch on tv because Ramona didn’t realize that the world revolved around Jill and that it was her job to inform Jill of all guests at all events.

    She really is a PR nightmare. Stupid doesn’t even begin to cover her self-destructive take on spin. She truley is her own worst enemy.

  76. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill has never wavered in her belief that she is the breakout star of RHNY – she is willing to go to great lengths to be the center square and doesn’t see that her actions and words make her look terrible – petty, jealous, vindictive, shallow and vile. She doesn’t respect anyone’s opinion other than her own, so she will continue to wonder what is wrong with everyone – because she is fabulous and should be adored.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Wow – you also described NeNe! It’s got to be harder to be the popular one in your first season, and then fall hard, rather than the other way around. For Alex and Simon, they could only improve in their public image. Sort of like Phaedra and Camille.

  77. @tweatcyn says:

    My new blog post is up. What Would Bethenny Say? About Jill’s Bravo blog:

    • Dani says:

      @tweatcyn love the blog WWBS. I could hear Bethenny’s voice as I was reading your blog. Great job, I enjoyed it.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Great blog. Jill is the gift that keeps on giving!!

    • error404 says:

      LOL! I never in a million years made the connection between Jill and Lisa’s deep deep philosophic talk/walk on the beach like two little girls to Bethenny’s published diet advice! OMG, JZ really is the gift that keeps giving. What a moron!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Holy Shitballs – thank you! I really do miss Bethenny and you have given us the talking heads she would have.

    • California35 says:

      All of it hilarious lol

      ” Is Humpty Dumpty your new BFF?” perfect!!! Lol

  78. California35 says:

    Nancy, I am very close to Moorpark 🙂

    The weather here is beautiful, I just came back from a walk with my dog. How is the weather there today? I have a friend that lives near SF, and we have talked about getting together soon. Maybe this summer some time. I liked it there when I visited a few times.

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  80. Nancy says:

    Small world, eh? Actually I am in Moorpark now but heading out the door to drive home. We brought our little girl Emily, aka a dog, but please don’t tell her that. She’s a 17 year old Pug and the love of my life. What kind of dog do you have? Do you watch
    The Dog Whisperer?
    I really think we should make those T-shirts. I’m sure Bethenny wouldn’t mind. So what do you think about our girl B. moving to LA? To be honest with you I’m not sure about a talk show for Bethenny because 1) She talks WAY to fast and 2)She doesn’t listen completely to what a person is saying because she’s already answering before the person has finished their thought. My husband does this all the time and it drives me CRAZY. Don’t get me wrong I adore Bethenny. I just hope she can slow down and enjoy her life but I think she needs to forgive her mother or I’m not sure she will ever be truly happy.

    • California35 says:

      Wow – you were very close 🙂

      My dog is a mix of who knows what 😛 . She is small long hair and long tail mix of king Charles (her mother). We think her mother was a pure breed,but I don’t know if she is for sure. I have no idea of the father’s breed. When she was younger, she some times was confused for a long hair chihuahua, but never saw it. Her tail had longer hair and looks a bit like a papillon tail. Any ways, I tried to give you so many details so you could get an idea. She is yellow and white, and she is 4 years old. I used to watch Dog Wisper, I began when I got her and watch very closely. She is my first and only dog, and I needed it. Now, I still watch but not as I used to. You have had yours foe a long time, gives me hopes that I will have mine for a long time still 🙂

      It would be nice if Bethenny move to CA, she can have more for her money and she could have more entrance to “show business”. Not that she is doing bad now in that department. Also, will be closer to me lol (I’m sure that is in her mind lol). Talk show host? Hhmm I don’t know what to think yet, I know of some of those talk show hosts have more of a “stable” schedule, that allows them to have a family life, Rossane and Ellen come to mind. For that reason (and if true), I think it will be good for her. Good for her fans because ewe will get to see her and are curious to see what she can come up with. As far as what you mentioned of her way of talking and listening, I am sure she will have to figure it out. I don’t think she will change the way she is, or would be wise,but will probably have to change some things to adjust to the “talk show” style.

  81. boston02127 says:

    Well….it’s after 5 and I’m done dying curtains & cleaning up the mess. I have advice for anyone who may want to dye anything. NEVER DO IT! Total mess & curtains are in the trash. They came out looking worse than Jill’s corset, well maybe not that bad but close.

    • Nancy says:

      boston, I can’t even dye my own hair so I’m impressed you ever tried with curtains.

      • alicia says:

        I just dyed my hair w/ the new foam haircolor(loreal). Had a last minute invite to a charity fundraiser for a wildlife sanctuary and I had to cover the roots. I was actually able to sit at my desk with the haircolor on and my hair in a ponytail. No dripping on my keyboard. I had a wonderful time as they had bobcat brothers in harnesses outside on the estate grounds that they allowed us to pet.

    • HD says:

      lol @ worse than Jill’s corset. I’m so sorry it didn’t work. What happened?

    • lillybee says:

      The only time I have ever dyed anything is when I was making tiedyed shirts.
      But tie dye is very forgiving.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Worse than the corset! LOL! Sorry to hear it didn’t work. Maybe it was just time for new curtains!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      You tried – now it’s time for Overstock.com!

    • AZ Girl says:

      I admire you for trying and saving a few bucks. Now go to Bed Bath and Beyond and find some replacement curtains that ARE NOT part the Jill Zarin line. 🙂

    • Waslurking says:

      Sorry @boston…
      I didn’t think it would work but with so many others giving good advice I was hoping maybe, just maybe. Also hoped the rit dye had improved over the years.
      My mom, many moons ago tried it on my bedroom curtains as they were violet not blue (blue being my ‘color’….. she had a ‘moment when purchasing I guess :).
      She wanted to ‘fix’ it……. omg! What a mess! The color did come out sorta blue but drab and dull and ewww.
      If you sew at all………….find some color/pattern of sheets that work for you and you can make your own. So much cheaper than buying curtains and all the hassle of finding the right sizes…. much less the color or design you like.
      Just a thought….
      Good luck kiddo!

  82. TLM says:

    A comment about Gretchen and her “tubba-wubba” comment, which just ran yet again.

    Gretchen has stated she “suffered from bulemia” in the past. I find it very hard to believe that anyone who actually suffered from an eating disorder would not only mock someone else for their eating, but would say humiliating things to them about it, AND do it in public. Either she never really had an eating disorder, or her degree in psychology isn’t worth very much. You don’t have to be a psychologist to know that teasing and taunting someone about their weight and eating is not how to get results. If anything, it builds resentment and encourages them to overeat just to spite you. It certainly isn’t what a supportive partner would do.

    • Zoey says:

      That is an extremely good insight. You’re right, IF she had a disorder, and IF she has any kind of degree in psychology, it makes no sense. Heck, most people with neither wouldn’t say that to someone else. She’s either a psycho or a phony. Hm….

  83. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I have to get something off my chest. I hate JillZarin. I feel so strongly because I, and a few I know, have been victims of a bitch like Jill. Bitches come in all religions, colors, races and nationalities. But no one is as vicious as the jewish bitch! A perceived slight becomes WWIII, with her making co-workers, friends and family choose sides, or become a victim of her wrath too. She covets your youth, looks, possessions, skills and future. She sets out to destroy with an intensity that is unmatched in other women. She is relentless. She starts rumors, a lie concocted to make herself the victim, maligning you, ruining your reputation forcing you to defend yourself to others about her lies. If she is in a possession to have the boss’s ear…find another job! You’ll never have the respect of others as she has slandered you and it’ll be an uphill battle. She is bulletproof.

    We all know Jill’s attacks on BRA in seasons past. She now claims to have changed yet she came out the gate, negating her past actions, trying to rewrite history. Um hello? We have tv’s, dvr’s and BRAVO’s love of reruns and syndication. Who’s she fooling?! Maybe her fan base, but other’s see right through her. When she called Alex a “f**ing bitch”, and made the comment about her socializing with those above her, it was more than an insult. To say that to those ladies was her just being a bitch. To say that to a producer was her being a conniving, scheming, evil bitch! She’s telling the boss that Alex is of a lower class and doesn’t fit with “them”. She’s trying to plant the seeds of doubt in the producers, hoping they’ll agree and Alex will lose her job. Whore-rrible! Who the hell does she think she is, saying Alex is not of her standing? Please this is a wrinkled bitch who is pushing discounted fabric in Chinatown/Canal and lives in an apt over a retail store, in the shadow of a bridge. That is not high society! Get over yourself you wanna be elitist bitch!

    She’s evil, she’s ugly, she’s a bitch. She’s JillZarin.

    P.S. Before anyone thinks i’m anti-semetic, i’ll say NO! I’m an equal opportunity hater of evil! LOL The most enthusiastic, encouraging and dedicated teachers I had were Jewish and I will forever be grateful for the lessons learned. 😉

  84. jeang says:

    Dont forget Amber, her and Kelly both have those creepy turkey necks. No matter what they do with creams and corsets and hairdos and makeup, those turkey necks are always gonna be there for all to see.

  85. Nancy says:

    She’s evil, she’s ugly, she’s a bitch. She’s JillZain.

    That has to be put on a T-Shirt!
    I hate her as much as you do. Trust me. I have to remember that Jill’s days are numbered. Everyone pretty much thinks that this will probably be the last season for RHONY.
    Jill will be NOTHING without this show. She will implode. 99% of the people that live in NY thinks she’s a joke. Maybe now we can sleep better tonight.

    • Whisper says:

      I AGREE!!!
      The three shrews ( JZ, Lisa, & Gloria) were in my county about 10 minutes away from me today. After hearing about the change of the results of the WWHL poll this morning, I wanted to go there & say/do something to her.

  86. AZ Girl says:

    WTH! Next WWHL show everyone try and call in and find out what is going on with Bravo changing the poll numbers. On the re-runs the poll was Ramona 58% and Jill 49%. Live it was 78/22. Bravo is a joke.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      yes…but Jill still LOST! lol

      • aliand says:

        I smell a whole lot of bullshit with that decision, but I can’t figure out why.

        I mean bravo clearly doesn’t care about anyones bruised feelings, but why would they change the results at all? what do they gain? jillzarin is loud and wrong on every level imaginable and has been since season 1, what’s changed? would they risk a business relationship w/sprint by blaming them for the results?

        why would they assumed that we all who watched WWHL and laughed at Romana’s landslide would fall for the switch?

        if i worked for sprint as the manager of the the bravo acct, i would be highly pissed.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I’ve started thinking those polls are rigged. If so, wouldn’t they want to follow through on the WWHL theme of “get Jill” to have her lose pretty badly? And if she pressured them to re-count, they just give a new made-up result.

      I remember when Kathy Griffin was on and she lost to Sarah Palin. Which gave her the opportunity to make jokes about it. Would not have been as funny if she won. This was when it dawned on me it could just be a joke.

      When mistakes in the polls are pointed out, Andy is not too upset. I don’t think they’re really trying to get numbers right, but just want to see what happens. Besides, you can only vote if it’s on live in your time zone. For those of us who see it delayed, what do they do with those votes? Same as all the others, I think!

    • Zoey says:

      But those numbers don’t add up to 100…I don’t get it.

  87. Adgirl says:

    Why was Jill upset about the wedding (reception?) being at her old house?? So strange of her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      perhaps because no one mentioned it on the show???

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      odd right?

      such a non-issue.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      It’s sacred ground. They should build a memorial to her and conduct tours with docents reciting JZ’s official biography and Gloria’s sage advice. And of course there should be a gift shop with all of JZ’s merch.

      How dare the people who own the house actually use it for their own purposes without first consulting with Jillz and getting her permission.

      Yeah, she’s getting nuttier as the seasons go on.

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