I Hate Jill Zarin Top Chef Masters / Housewives News

I Hate Jill Zarin             Top Chef Masters / Housewives News  

Top Chef Masters, Episode 3  by Harvey

Quickfire: Let’s get icky and cook bugs. Or more accurately, insects and worms. Crickets, beetles, scorpions, night crawlers, green hornworms. The hornworms are quite beautiful.  Lots of faces and eeeews. Oh come on, people. Haven’t you ever heard of or enjoyed chapulines, those spicy flash-fried grasshoppers that are great Oaxacan street food? Celina says she’s had crickets in Bangkok, so it doesn’t seem to phase her. Basically what you need to do with foods that are unappealing is hide them, like you hide veggies for kids. And as Mary Sue says, these people not only eat but extol the virtues of eating all sorts of unappealing organ meats such as eyeballs, brains, anything…wasn’t there a time when they would have found these things gross? Most of us still do. And they eat snails, don’t they? They consider snails to be a delicacy. Snails are invertebrates. Slimy gastropods. And they eat oysters – slimy bivalves – raw. So that’s yummy but worms are yucky?

Face it, people. As we deplete the oceans, as we come to the grips with the environmental and health effects of industrial farming and livestock production, we are going to need additional sources of protein. Insects are abundant. Not so earthworms; many species are being depleted because of pesticides and, in some places such as Great Britain, heavy predation by introduced predatory species that were imported as fishing bait.

The people who have worms really should have an easier time of it because they don’t have to deal with the chitinous exoskeletons that crickets and beetles carry, much less the legs. Batter and fry is the obvious answer. Suvir can’t kill his hornworms. His religious and cultural background prohibit the killing of animals. I call BS. His menu at Devi includes chicken, fish, seafood, and lamb. I’m guessing those shrimp didn’t commit crustacean hari-kari by jumping out of the water for his restaurant, and I doubt that the little lambs just died in their sleep. Someone slaughtered them, and Hindu law says that the person who buys, sells, cooks or eats these items is also considered the slayer of the animal. Which makes sense when you think about it. But hey, people of every faith choose to follow rules or not, as they please. Religion these days is strictly a lá carte. So if he participates by making the worms available live in a jar, with a cook-it-yourself blow torch and wants to believe he’s adhering to Hindu beliefs, more power to him.

The guest judges are Mykel Hawke, one of those macho survival types from the Discovery Channel, and his wife Ruth England, a TV journalist. Man, Woman, Wild. He’s nearly killed her twice. Once in the Mexican desert, where she fell victim to heat exhaustion and dehydration. Important survival tip: if this should ever happen to you, ask the film crew you brought as emergency gear to rescue you. The second time, they were both too exhausted from lack of food (in Alaska, where food is abundant in the spring) and cold (how? didn’t they take appropriate clothing?) to hike out to the airstrip. When a storm approaches, they give up and call (good thing they packed that satellite phone) for helicopter rescue. Please folks – watch these programs and learn what NOT to do! Anyway, they’ve apparently had to eat lots of icky invertebrates while out in the field, so they are happy to dig into this gourmet grub (groan……..). I admit that it was gross watching Mykel dispatch the live green hornworms – he tears one in half, the body fluids drain out…

Another important lesson from Mr. Macho – when cooking crickets, remove the hairy legs. They tickle going down the throat and get stuck in your teeth. Nothing worse than being stuck in the wilderness without a toothpick.

The winner gets $$ for the charity and immunity, and this time the winner is Hugh, the guy who was eliminated in the first episode, but brought back to fill the slot that opened up when John Rivera Sedlar had to drop out. He made fried tempura crickets with a carrot and sunchoke puree.

Elimination challenge: A $100/plate charity dinner. They are to make a 10-course tasting menu. Each to make one dish. They are told to expect curveballs.

Once again, Naomi (dead-pig-carrying uber-hip lady from Portland) takes over and once again no one stops her. When Naomi is identified on screen, it says “Naomi. Beast.” That’s the name of her restaurant and also quite a good description of her attitude, and not in a good way. She’s strident and bossy. Yes, yes. I know. If a guy behaved this way, we’d call him take-charge and it would be a good thing. Well, I am female and I say NO. It isn’t because she’s female that this behavior is objectionable. It is just plain annoying. No matter who does it. But the others don’t object so screw them. They just grumble. Speak up or shut up, I always say.

Admittedly, it is a good thing to write it all down and review the list to be sure that each course is covered and that there aren’t too many of one thing and none of another. It doesn’t seem that any thought is given to how dishes will complement one another. Everyone makes whatever they want.

More stupidity from the producers: no water. Before you say, “oh this is the kind of thing real chefs have to deal with in their restaurants,” let me say NO. The way real chefs deal with no water (even no hot water) in their restaurants is to shut down. Or be shut down by the health department. It is a serious health code violation and as Floyd said, a disaster waiting to happen because it is very likely that cross-contamination from raw chicken or fish will occur and someone will get very sick. They get creative by taking water from the circulating bath and by melting ice.

They are also responsible for setting up the dining room. Suvir gives us more of his “bliss out” philosophy. He is very calm. He has a zen quality. His zen is really getting on my nerves!

Another twist – they take away 30 minutes of cooking time. Dishes have to be simplified. I predict disaster for the risotto which simply can’t be rushed. Risotto is made by adding small amounts of liquid, allowing it to absorb completely, and then adding a small amount more, repeating until the rice is both creamy and yet still each grain is separate and intact. They should be al dente and as we know from watching many failed risottos on TC, it should stand up on the plate. It isn’t meant to be rice-flavored mush. This is not cream of wheat!

Naomi is making lists and yelling again. She’s appointed herself the dining room tsar as well, and she’s telling us how SHE has done a lot of work strategizing how involved she will be with the diners, splitting out the servers, making sure the food goes out fast enough (the downfall of HER team last time…the food went out so slowly that the judges complained). She sets up the plating area but Hugh steps up and decides that it should be elsewhere. Sue is confused, Naomi says of Hugh in a dismissive way, “Hugh’s got a vision with that. I’m not envisioning that.” Naomi catches on to the fact that she’s unpopular and that everyone thinks she is bossy. Eye rolls. She doesn’t care. Good survival trait. If you can’t handle being hated, don’t be hateful. Looking at YOU, Jill Zarin. Take a lesson. And take your nasty little dog to class with you.

Another twist. No waiters. They’ve got to handle service themselves.

Naomi yelling again. Everyone needs to be finished with their course and chip in with service. She thinks that no one should be working on their courses while service is going on. Tracy gives it right back to her. It is impossible for her because her she’s got a protein that has to be cooked last minute. She isn’t used to being bossed around.

In come the guests. Hugh starts bossing. I need first course now and pour the wine!

The judges are the delightful James Oseland, the incredible Ruth Reichl, Danyelle Freeman, and guest judge Alan Systma, the editor of Grub Street. How weird is it that there are three major food critics with similar last names (Tom Sietsema of the Washington Post, Robert Sietsema of the Village Voice – they are not related – and Alan Systma). He looks like he is maybe 14 years old and he must have packed a whole lot of eating into his short life. Hard to imagine he’s got the educated palate of a Ruth Reichl. But he was previously with Gourmet (her late, great food periodical); he says he was an intern for James Oseland at one time.

Out comes Mary Sue’s ceviche app. Lacking in flavor. Suvir’s chickpea, potato, and yoghurt chaat (a Northern Indian dish) and he gets demerits for playing it safe but the diners love it. Suvir and George both select the specific plates that will go to the judges. That bugs me. Restaurants should give critics the same food, presented the same way, that they serve to everyone else. One thing I do like about Masters is that unlike regular TC, they don’t engage in silly backbiting. Suvir mentions that Naomi’s cream of celery soup is simple but beautiful. She then says the same thing – doing something boring is risky. And we all know that simple-but-well-executed generally wows the judges. Turns out it isn’t quite so simple. She calls is a celery velouté, and velouté is actually a sauce, not a soup. A thick, creamy stock-based sauce. So she’s trying to hype the dish and in doing so, displays her ignorance of basic cooking terms. It has a salsa verde (nice – the cool celery with the spicy but not overwhelmingly hot salsa, finished with lemon oil and espelette pepper (a mild chili pepper cultivated in France). The judges love it and Danyelle also calls it a velouté, and mispronounces the word. Love it when someone tries to be sophisticated by picking up a word they don’t know and using it incorrectly. Though apparently, this is happening a lot with that word, at least in the United States, where people have started to use that word to mean soup. According to Larousse Gastronomique, velouté is one of the five “mother sauces” with a stock base. Now, I suppose a very thick soup with a stock base and lots of cream and/or butter would resemble a velouté in texture and body, so whatevs. Though Oseland says the same thing on his blog, so I’m not alone in thinking that Naomi and Danyelle are pretentious but not all that knowledgeable about food.

At this point, they all comment that the chefs didn’t conceive the dinner as a whole; that it was every man for himself.

Here’s the risotto, the culinary pass-fail test that so many TC contestants have failed. Miserably so.

The judges don’t comment on the quality of the risotto itself. They question the addition of pine nuts. The crunchy texture adds nothing, they say. I agree. And as a victim of pine nut mouth, I’d be very cautious about adding pine nuts to anything if I didn’t know the source of the pine nuts. If they aren’t from Europe, the Middle East, or the U.S., I simply wouldn’t use them. Generally, they say the risotto is unmemorable. Not worthy of a $100/plate dinner. That comment was made about a couple of dishes and I’m not getting it. At Volt, the six-course tasting menu is $95 and with wine pairings, $145. The optional cheese course adds another $12. At Cityzen (run by Eric Ziebold, a French Laundry alum who won a James Beard Best Chef award), the six-course tasting menu is $110. So what’s with this pretense that $100/plate is a lot for a 10-course tasting menu? At a charity dinner yet. You always pay more for a charity dinner.

The chefs tell us their restaurant horror stories – power went out, we cooked with flashlights held in our teeth. Bathrooms out – guests had to walk across the street to a grocery store to relieve themselves. John Currance almost murdered an assistant chef who put salt on crème brulée and when he couldn’t get it to caramelize, he took it out to the tables anyway.

As we proceed through service, Naomi and Hugh continue to clash. Suvir says he is not assertive and doesn’t usually get excited. Hugh stirs the shit by saying that Naomi is a little assertive. Suvir walks away from him. Alex’s salmon is not a hit. Some think it is undercooked. Tracy has the only meat course. Alan says the veggie (slow-cooked broccoli) is a swampy, flat puree but he is lectured by James who says that young people have been brain-washed to think that veggies shouldn’t be cooked. In fact, he says, is that Tracy’s vegetables are bold, cooked vegetables. Alan looks at him and shakes his head. Palate vs. trendy standards.

Hugh’s desert is a panna cotta with strawberry-champagne sauce and blackberry seedlings. It is a hit. They don’t like Celina’s pudding – it is chalky and gritty and doesn’t have enough chocolate flavor. Interesting – she doesn’t listen to feedback from the servers. Not good. Naomi breaks her arm patting herself on the back saying that everyone worked well together. Only to the extent they obeyed her or kept their grumbling below audible levels. At the chefs’ post-mortem, they congratulate themselves.

I am agreeing with Gawker right now: Danyelle Freeman Sucks: The Marrow Out Of Life, In General. As Joshua Stein wrote, “Today brings the debut of blogger-cum-Daily News food critic Restaurant Girl, real name Danyelle Freeman. When the news was announced a week ago, we were frankly skeptical of her lack of skill and anonymity.” While she has yet to openly announce that, no, she can’t write very well, she has fully embraced her own faciness. Freeman’s mug appears on the paper’s website no fewer than three times. And later,  “ Crumplefaced spry the Daily News’ restaurant writer Danyelle Freeman stops by Lower East Side’s Allen and Delancey in today’s review, quotes fromWalden, misinterprets Thoreau and in general cuts a broad swath of self-indulgent nonsense across the meanness of life.” Danyelle is a former (read, “failed”) actress who started a blog called Restaurant Girl. Which Gawker calls Restaurant Hurl. It is an insult to Ruth Reichl to have to be sitting at the same table with this twit. Don’t believe me? OK, fine. Believe the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/fashion/04bloggers.html. This little epitome of the “I’m know I’m fabulous because my parents said so every five minutes” generation reviews restaurants based on opening nights. And then after she failed as an actress, she failed as a food critic – the Daily News (the also-ran to the New York Post) axed her in 2009 after two years.

After so many mediocre dishes, they still say “what a fantastic dinner.”

Hmm. Critics’ table, not Judges’ Table. Why? Who knows. Well, the diners voted for the favorite dish and the money is doled out to the charities according to the percentage of the vote for the top two dishes, and then each got an additional $10,000, which is very cool. And then the judges chose the winner, which was Naomi. Now she’s a million percent sure that she should be in charge and that she is always right about everything.

The risotto is in the bottom three, but not for quality, but because it was banal. Shitake mushrooms and pancetta. He played it safe. The chocolate was grainy and not chocolately enough, and the ginger donuts weren’t fluffy enough. It fell flat. Mary Sue’s ceviche lacked the flavor of the fish; the pickled onion overwhelmed everything. Celina’s pudding was unanymously disliked. John goes home for the risotto even though there was nothing wrong with it. Huh? A good dish that is simply not spectacular loses to two dishes that are flawed? And Suvir’s dish was also criticized as being too safe, too within-the-comfort zone, but wasn’t in the bottom three at all. And here you have it, folks. One thing that TCM has in common with TC. Totally inexplicable decisions and completely arbitrary and capricious standards.

Pack your knives John

Can’t complain. It gives us something to gripe about…and what is blogging, if not griping with a purpose? Who wants to read a nice-nice blog, and especially one about programs that are created deliberately to show us the worst of people (not that they have to try very hard with most of the cast…just turn the camera on and let them be themselves)? BORING!

Thank you Harvey, another great job blogging Top Chef Masters, the bug thing was rather creepy.  The way that Stone described them, I suppose you could live off of the bugs and probably lose a whole lot of weight too!  

For those of you who don’t know, Harvey is our anonymous researcher, contributor and all around good egg who helps me tremendously with the blog!  Thanks again Harvey.  

Real Housewives and other News…

A Viewer TO:  @BravoAndy so why so many rumors about new Housewives cities?!

BravoAndy:  no

A simple “no” says it all, I think he’s telling us that he won’t be approving anymore Housewives shows but that doesn’t mean they won’t shoot in other cities.  Bravo isn’t the only network in the world and there’s no reason why other networks couldn’t air similar shows.  Mob Wives is appearing on VH1 right now and the success of Bravo’s Real Housewives could certainly prompt other networks to air similar shows.

TO:  BravoAndy if not #realhousewivesofscottsdale – is it another show on bravo? AZ’s buzzing – i’m on radio – & want to give the REAL scoop!

@BravoAndy:  nope!

I think Andy’s being as clear as he can be, they’re not filming in Arizona for Bravo but they are filming something…

Andy’s ad posters slapped all over New York City are being defaced but apparently Andy think’s that its funny because he’s Tweeting the photos.

Real Housewives of Miami Marysol confirms:  “It wasn’t supposed to be a Housewives show,” .

The ratings? I knew why that was happening,” Marysol said. “They literally told us 10 days before it aired that the show was going to air.” (It was actually 19 days; on Feb. 3, Bravo sent out an announcement that Miami, which hadn’t been mentioned, much less promoted, would debut on Feb. 22, and that the network was postponing the premiere of Season 4 of The Real Housewives of New York City. But yes, the change in plans was a surprise.)

“We got one week’s promotion,” Marysol continued. “All the other shows get two months of, ‘It’s coming, it’s coming, it’s coming!’ What kind of following can you get when there’s only one of advertising?”

Bravo declined to comment for this story.

As a PR guru, Marysol was particularly miffed about the rush-job. “When we were told, all of a sudden everyone in [my] office froze. We looked at each in awe, like, What are we going to do? We looked at each other like, Why do we all feel so paralyzed? I didn’t know what to do. We had to let Bravo do their thing, I couldn’t go gang-busters doing my own PR. So I had to sit back and watch… We were all frozen and frustrated.”

Something else Marysol felt free to talk about—besides the fact that yes, hubby Philippe’s wine refrigerator is still in the house—was that when she was first approached by Bravo, she was told that the series, then called Untitled Miami Project, “was about women in business and philanthropy.”

I’m not surprised that Bravo turned this into a Housewives franchise while not being clear with the cast and I don’t think anyone is surprised that it failed.  Miami was used as filler because New York wasn’t ready.  As they said, it was sitting on a shelf gathering dust with probably no intention of ever airing it because it was just that bad.  When the NY fiasco happened they threw it on the air then didn’t even give it the courtesy of a reunion, Andy flew all the ladies to appear on his Watch What Happens Live show for an hour and called it a day.  He was clearly annoyed that he even had to do that.  It was a joke and these poor women took it seriously, they fought with real emotion and true feelings but it was all just a way to fill time for Bravo.  Andy didn’t even try to make any sense out of any of it, he allowed them to make the rookie mistake of all talking at the same time ensuring that viewers couldn’t hear any of them, he didn’t care.

I hope that the cast members of The Real Housewives of Miami are able to parlay this experience into something positive in their lives but Miami is finished on Bravo, I’m convinced.

Real Housewives of DC

Cat Ommanney of The Real Housewives of DC didn’t seem to like Jill’s comments on Wendy’s show:

What’s all this about Jill Zarin being rude about DC? Has she not heard I’m coming to NYC? Meeeeoow!!
Mary Amons showing she shares her sense of humor with her husband:
TO  @richamons you know you have a lot to say when your tweets outnumber your followers. #justsayin
Real Housewives of New Jersey

Bravo has posted another preview video, this has to be the best of them all!  Note Teresa’s brother calling her “garbage”.

The Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 3 – Even Family Wars have Casualties – Video – Bravo TV Official Site http://t.co/RwopjoE

Real Housewives of New York

Alex McCord’s husband Simon VanKempen announced this morning that he has a song coming out, it will be available immediately after the RHONY airs tonight:


NEW YORK, April 21, 2011 /PRNewswire/ — The Real Housewives of New York City’s Simon van Kempenwill release his debut single “I Am Real” today,Thursday, April 21, 2011. The song will make its TV premiere tonight, 11pm EDT, on Bravo TV’s Watch What Happens: Live hosted by Andy Cohen and which will feature Simon’s wife, Alex McCord. “I Am Real” was produced by JSM Music in New York City. The song will be available to stream on Bravotv.comimmediately after the show.

After four years starring on a hit reality TV show, Simon van Kempen takes a tongue-in-cheek look at himself and others of The Real Housewives of New York. In this irreverent pop and dance track, Simon lampoons everything and everyone around him including the “surreality” of Reality TV. Simon is the first “Househusband” to record a single and the song is the first specifically written about the experience of being a participant on the runaway hit show. Says Simon:

“Not many people know this, but I spent my childhood and early 20’s studying and performing as a musician. Music has been a huge part of my life, and although I never thought of myself as a singer, I was thrilled and a little nervous when Joel Simon, and his company JSM music approached me with the idea of creating a song. More than anything, I wanted the track to be fun, irreverent and to talk about my real experience on the ‘Real Housewives of New York City.’ The title and lyrics are cheeky but hey, that’s the REAL me!”

Born in Brisbane, Australia, Simon van Kempen, at the age of three moved to neighboring New South Wales before returning to Brisbane for high school. In 1986, at the age of 22, Simon moved to London where he lived for thirteen years before returning to Australia to pursue business opportunities. Just two months later, Simon, on a business trip to New York, met Alex. It was love at first sight.

 The single will be available on CD Baby, iTunes, Amazon among other leading online music sites.

You can preview about 90 seconds of it on iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesIAmReal

and the news release is here http://bit.ly/IAmRealNewsRelease

If you don’t have Itunes, Popeater has the whole song along with a great interview with Simon here:


I think Simon’s a lot like Bethenny, he doesn’t care to hold back, he gives his impression of the other Housewives, like it or not.

Simon’s webcast show is scheduled to premier tonight as well.  Look for the recap by Quincy right here tomorrow morning on IHJZ along with my RHONY blog.

Until Next Time…

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424 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Top Chef Masters / Housewives News

  1. LeaLea says:

    I thought Alex and Simon met on an Internet dating site. Maybe they meant “met” as in, met in person.

    • error404 says:

      I don’t think anyone ever mentioned anything about “dating”. They met online and hooked-up for sex. To their own surprise, it turned into something more. They always seemed pretty honest about that.

  2. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    so wrong about Miami and Andys thoughts on the show
    Andy LOVED miami he just didnt love the ratings but that had more to do with Bravo then the ratings
    everyone i knew that watched it liked it much more then a lot of the housewives
    I wouldnt say it is finished till we have some word regarding if it is or not

    now onto simon hope this link still works

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      well now darling- Lynn’s not wrong. And of course you are not wrong either- you just have different opinions.

      Personally I want RHOM to come back just because I know how happy it would make you!
      That’s it- I’m calling Andy. I’ll just simply explain that DJ Fruitloops liked the show an aweful lot and could he pretty please renew it? thnx! I’m sure I’ll be very successful.

    • error404 says:

      seriously dude, did you invest in this show or something? LOL It’s quality is person opinion, but Bravo treating it like a red-headed step-child seems pretty factual. If Andy LOVED it, why did it sit on shelf until it was unceremoniously throw on the air with no build-up as a last minute substitute for RHNY which had been in the middle of a very aggressive ad campaign? Even the best show would have been doomed to fail with the way Bravo aired it.

      • quincyil says:

        I am with DJ… I really liked it. I loved the setting and the women were just crazy enough to think they were normal.

        I want the 60s patterns with bright colors to come back to our stores. I want to relive my youth.

        If Lynn needs someone to go to Miami and interview the housewives, I volunteer. I think a lot of the people on the board will want to go too.

        • error404 says:

          I’m with Lynn on this one. Andy LOVING RHMi falls under the “with friends like this, who needs enemies” category.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            except Andy has told me that he loves them and he didnt have to

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            I love Lynn she knows that but how on earth can she say it was just that bad when she never watched it

            Sorry Lynn i watched each episode i only go on about it cause i liked what i saw

            done in half the time and stall a billion times then the dreaded OC version

            • LynnNChicago says:

              I didn’t say that I “never watched it”. I saw a few episodes and I saw the beginning of that fiasco of a reunion. The reunion gave me a headache and what I saw of the show, I wasn’t impressed. I have the right to my opinion DJ my darling.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          Quincy id be happy to go too
          what killed me the most about this board was how everyone jumped on the hate train on eppisode one
          never giving the show a chance and the ones that kept slamming it were the ones that didnt watch

          • quincyil says:

            I held back and did not join the discussion because I help Lynn with content, but I watched the show and read the comments from board members. The Miami houswives were not different from the women of other series. They did not get the promotion that NY got and then threw away.

            I seem to often see things differently and survive here. LOL. I will stand right behind you while you are taking the fire, DJ. Tell Andy that women on the prairie liked the show. I’m sure he will love that demographic.


      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        only emotionlly Error ONLY emotionally LOL

        why it sat on the shelf ?
        i couldnt tell you that he only told me he loved it once it aired

        maybe when they first filmed it they werent happy with the outcome but by the time it aired He must have changed his opinion of it
        i can tell you this much this was the first of the franchise that i sort of recalled most of the cast name by the 3rd episode
        i still cant recall half of dc’s cast

    • LynnNChicago says:

      It didn’t appear to me as though Andy gave Miami much respect. I think Marysol didn’t either. The bad scheduling, the thrown together reunion, his obvious impatience with the ladies as they screamed over each other all added to my perception. If Andy “Loved” Miami why didn’t he give them a proper reunion? Why aren’t we seeing re-runs of any of the Miami episodes? Of course he’s going to say that he “loved” Miami, he never says he doesn’t like anything but he’s pretty easy to read, IMO. Remember DJ, its my opinion but I don’t think there is any question that they’re finished. If they cancelled DC that had better ratings, why would they renew Miami?

      If that link doesn’t work, The Popeater link to Simon’s video that is in the blog works, you can hear the whole song there.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        They could renew Miami because it has the ability TO BE entertaining. DC was boring as hell even with the Salahi debacle. The Miami gals are all crazy enough characters that you wouldn’t mind seeing again. Lea, Marisol and Elsa, Adriana, Alexia and even annoying ass Christy have enough quirks to be interesting. (LarsaPippen, was a shallow boring twit that should be replaced should they return.) That they were scripted as a cooking social, was boring but the snark and venom wasn’t. The two times they interacted outside of the cooking setting Christy crashed the party and Adriana argued with the artist’s friend. They can deliver.

        Now this show did receive the short end of the stick, as they were shoved into the schedule at the last minute due to the problems with NY. 19 days of promotion is not alot as we’ve been inundated with previews of BRAVO shows for months. Many viewers were angry and refused to watch in order to show their disappointment about NY being postponed. As for the reunion, I think with DC getting canceled once again BRAVO decided to minimize expenses and have it in the clubhouse as the show was only 6 episodes long. The ladies were given the opportunity to bring it and they did. They tied up loose ends and left enough animosity to warrant a second season. I hope they come back filmed as a HW show. Parties, events, product hawking, lunches, dinners and vacations included.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          well you know i agree 100 per cent
          that auction eppy alone was better then the entire DC season
          I think if and when they return Laursa will be the one we all agree to help

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Lynn that link should still work i have the song downloaded

        as for Andy and Miami
        all i know is what he told me i cant say to him Hey Andy are you lying to me i mean i would never hear from him again and you know i aint gonna let that happen
        he isnt the only one to make the decicision on its future but we both know this so far DC was the only one to get the ax
        if they really want to cancel it why havent they ?

        dc didnt get any love by fans via emails to Bravo
        maybe thats why that was to one to go

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        they did rerun the episodes many times lynn i watched em enough

    • alicia says:

      Enjoyed YOUR mix yesterday ! I have a friend who DJ’s in sobe on the weekends. I think he would enjoy hearing it.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Alicia thanks so much
        by all means share the link with him or anyone else
        do you know where he plays in sobe

        twist perhaps ort Scores on lincoln road

  3. jeang says:

    Bloggers and reviewer have their own opinions, but numbers do not lie. Fact is Miami numbers beat out Million Dollar Listings to the tune of 300,000 to 400,00 each week. Miami was only shy of BEA(in 2nd season) numbers by 100,00 to 300,00 and so far only 500,000 to 600,000 behind NYC(fourth season) and that is with only 1/2 season worth of episodes plus no pre advertising blitz.

    • butterisafruit says:

      I’m one of the ones who liked Miami. I thought it was a lot of fun. I even liked the ones everyone hated.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      and mdl never got a reunion at all and no one is thinking it will get canceled and there was no boycott called on that show either

  4. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Any body on here with some hiring experience in the business world? Need some quick advice.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I was a recruiter on Wall St. in one of my past lives (unlike a cat- I have more than 9)
      spit it out

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        Okay, I have graduated school with certifications and registered with AMA as a coder, biller and administration in the medical field. I am also a 25 year experienced retail manager with many accolades for customer service, running multiple stores, scheduling etc. I am currently interviewing to make the career change into medical administration or billing/coding.
        First interview and it went well. They have offered me a job, but the salary they are offering is wayyyyy low.

        Here’s the problem. The amount they offered is not HIDEOUS if you factor in the lack of practical experience in a medical setting. BUT the skill set they are looking to utilize is the set I already bring to the table. They want me to do the front office, relying on customer service skills, money management, report anyalysis and scheduling for a very busy office. These are skills I bring–all they have to train me on is their software and I am good. Also, the hubs works in manufacturing and that is still an incredibly volatile field in the current economy, so I have to look at any offer with an eye on the fact that I will probably have to put him on my insurance at some point. Factoring in taxes and the cost of the insurance, the current offer actually comes in at bringing home below poverty level income. I just cannot see the logic of going to work every day and still not being able to keep the lights on at home!
        I want to convey this to the office manager in a manner that is not insulting and will give her the opportunity to decide if she wants to negotiate the salary. Trying to phrase it correctly.

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          I guess the concerns are:
          1. I do not want to sell myself short here.
          2. I don’t want to have it seem like I am basing a decision on “what if my husband gets laid off”, but this is a realistic concern in this economy.
          3. I don’t want to take a job and then have to keep looking for a better opportunity, giving my resume some short termed employment (she job hops!) hits. But, if I took the current offer and the lay off did happen I would be forced to make the decision to get my husband on my healthcare policy or be able to afford our home. That is NOT a decision I spent all this money going to school to have to be put in a position to make.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            Is there the likelihood of promotion to a position where you’ll use and hone your new skills and get more income?

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            sorry Your Highness- duty called just for a moment.

            What are you basing your perceived #’s on? Your own salary track record OR did the school you just graduated from give you some ball park figures?

            Don’t jump at this offer just yet. Think of a # that you would be thrilled to death with- call your Ecstatic #. Then compare it with the salary they already mentioned and then pick a # in between.

            Of course you will tell them that you are grateful for the opportunity blah blah blah, but you had the understanding that with your skill set, the market was paying more than they were offering? And that you are looking for more $. (don’t come out and say it- but insinuate that either the school or another potential employer had led you to believe this- this way you’re not the “bad”guy)

            If (sometimes they don’t and continue to throw out #’s) they ask what you are looking for mention a # close to your Ecstatic #. And then “allow” them to negotiate you down to your acceptable #.

            ps remember in any bargaining- the person who throws out a # 1st is at a disadvantage because they tipped their hand. If they continue to throw out salary #’s keep your mouth shut until you like what you hear.

            Also I used to always tell me candidates that the goal of an interview is NOT to get a job but to get an OFFER.

            Continue to interview just like you don’t have a job.

            The best case scenario is that you will have multiple offers to choose from.

            and of course IndianaHousewife is absolutely right there are a lot of intangibles that could make a huge difference in your work life if not considered.

            but CONGRATULATIONS! You went out and ACED the interview! That is tough for a lot of job seekers to do.

            Sending you abundance and surrounding you with a green light of prosperity…

            • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

              I actually did some research online lastnite and it cemented my opinion. The average median salary for a practice their size is 3-4 dollars an hour above what she is offering. With the high cost of the health insurance, I actually need about 6 bucks above what she offered to be comfortable. The insurance there is 500 bucks a month which translates into an immediate loss of 6000 per year from the annual income. add in a 24% tax rate and BAM, I can’t survive on less than 6 bucks an hour above what she is offering. I think, in all honesty, the insurance will price me out of what they are looking to pay, especially in this economy. The insurance is FREE to the person working, but if you have to add a child or spouse it jumps to 500 a month for every extra person–you have to absorb the full cost. Plus the deductable doubles to 4000. I just don’t think they can afford to hire someone like me, with a family. They need to look for a single person who can look at straight salary and not worry about having to absorb the cost of the insurance.

              • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

                Basically, all I am doing is asking them to cover some of the health insurance cost—which they are doing for the single employees in their office in FULL. Also, if they will come to where I need them to be I am willing to become salaried and work every End of Month reconciliation (which they pay overtime to cover) as part of the deal, saving them half again the cost of the insurance. (in other words, I am saving them an additional 240 bucks a month, which is approx. half the cost of the insurance back to them for that month.) So I am really asking them to split the insurance with me.

                • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

                  and come up to market median. LOL. Split the insurance and come up to the market median salary for the position.

          • error404 says:

            I once was offered a job I really wanted but below my asking price. I asked and received an agreement upon hiring that we would review salary after 6 months based on performance, and I made sure to hold them to the promise. I ended up getting even more than I had originally asked for.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              well that is awesome
              its always great to hear a happy ending here once in a while

          • Kansas Girl says:

            I can only tell you what happened to my cousin, a 30-something who had experience in a medical office (office work, not medical work), went back to school and got her coding certification. Her first job was in a large and popular plastic surgeon’s office as a coder at $40,000. They loved her and she gradually became the office manager, and hired someone else to code. Another plastic surgeon’s office offered her a substantially better job at much higher pay, there was some back and forth on wages, and she moved to the new position where she has now worked for several years. No idea of her current pay, but it’s much higher than where she began.

            So I think you should not sell yourself short and take the first offer. And, once you’re working, in time you may get noticed by other offices and even better offers.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              That story made me think of Bethenny’s advice on Nate’s show.

              • lovemamaearth says:

                BTW Dr Ruth showed Nate her apt today. Wow what stories & objects. And he kissed her door post. Sweet guy.

            • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

              those salary figures are much more in line with my expectations. The insurance is the deal killer here. it is ridiculous!

              • AZ Girl says:

                Dutchess: down tread Tweatcyn brought up hospital coding. Two of my friends do coding for hospitals and the benefits and pay are really great. I give Tweatcyn full credit for this suggestion.

          • Mimisfbay says:

            I am a recruiter and coach people during hiring process. Run out to any bookstore and pick up a copy of Knock ’em Dead by Martin Yate. It is about $14 and worth every dime. You have made it through to the offer so get the book and do everything he says. The book is one you can use as a tool during this process. His writing is clear and ideas are great. I don’t know any recruiters that don’t use this book as a reference. Good Luck!!!!

            • Mimisfbay says:

              Oh, and go to salary.com both recruiters and employers use the site and it will give you what coders are making in your precise area. I think they give both hospital and physician practice salaries. Good Luck!

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              how funny! I have 3 different issues of this book

        • Casey says:

          Are you familiar with inpatient coding as well as outpatient? Also what state do you live in? I am CCS and CCS-P certified and have a lot of connections in NY. You can make more money in other arenas other then MDs office. Tell me more about you experience and where you live and maybe I can help you out.

          • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

            Hi Casey! My experience is in Retail Management and Team Building. The skill set is customer service, general management and money/account management. I have just graduated an intensive training program and am now certified RMC coder, Certified AMA Biller, and certified (through the school) and registered with the Medical Administration Professionals Association. that last one has to do with back office in medical/hospital settings and transcription as well. I graduated with an A in all courses and am also certified in HIPAA regulations through the national registry. I live in Cincinnati, Ohio.
            I thought being able to combine all the new knowledge with the 25 years of customer service and management skills would get me somewhere! LOL Guess we will see.

    • IndianaHousewife says:

      I have some experience, but no where close to OMIB. I think she sounds like your best bet, however I will help if I can.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        Adding my two cents if you want them. Please remember that even in this economy they want you. Most likely they had more people applying than in previous years and you were the one chosen above all. I would consider something like this

        “Based on what others in the role are making at similar companies, the 25 years of experience , my education and the commitment I would bring to the job I believe your offer is on the conservative side.”

        Using an approach like this will require you to educate yourself on what others are being offered for your position at other companies, but that shouldn’t be too difficult with the internet.

        Also remember other ways to negotiate are to request a sign on bonus, additional vacation/sick days, you could request to have a review performed at 3 -6 months to determine a salary raise after you have “proven” yourself some.

        Good luck

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Do you know what the salary range is for the position? Was the offer below the range? If so you can throw back a range you were hoping for and then be quiet and let them talk. You are negotiating – don’t be timid be confident! Asking for a salary review in six months as part of the hiring process is a good idea.
      If you have other interviews set up – go on them as well. Good luck.

  5. California35 says:

    Thanks for the news and the new blog! I am on my way out, and was able to read 🙂

    Simon sounds just like him 🙂 and I liked the 90 seconds of the song.

    Have a nice day everyone….I am out…no work for a few days will do me good 🙂

  6. error404 says:

    Real Housewives of Miami Marysol confirms: “It wasn’t supposed to be a Housewives show,”
    when she was first approached by Bravo, she was told that the series, then called Untitled Miami Project, “was about women in business and philanthropy.”

    ROTFLMAO What does she think a Real Housewives show is? Has she even ever seen one? LOL

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      LOL – women in business and philanthropy? No wonder it sat in Bravo’s closet!

      • error404 says:

        but all the HW shows play lip service to this. If they don’t already have a business they showcase (Icky Vicky) they use they show to help start one (Wretchen), and they all go to endless charity parties from the real (Cancer Society, MENY) to the faux (Creeky Joints, Ladybug).

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      maybe they were gonna revive Miami Social with a new cast

  7. error404 says:

    Oh Simon…… You go girl!!!!

    The song has too much content for the euro-trash dance track, but that’s ok. Not everyone can pen a piece of art like Tardy for the Party. LOL

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      I thought it was great for a first song. Hopefully they’ll make so money so Alex can calm down. She needs to be cool & calm for her kids & Simon & all her careers. She really needs to forget about JZ , LuAnn thinks who the hell she is. And Cocoa Puffs. She is also wasting her time with Sonja. I liked her first season but if this is how she really is Alex needs to find new friends. Do they make them talk to each other on these shows even when no one tells the truth & they all talk behind each others back & treat each other like shit? What would happen if they all just refused to speak or interact with each other? Maybe we could start the Househusbands of NYC & OC & DC.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        That is funny I have had the same thought lately. I think it would be a better show to be able to watch “behind the scenes” what the producers, etc. have to do to get the show filmed. It would be great to see the melt downs, “I won’t film with her”, etc.

        They should show the new episode, then the producers cut each week.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Tweeters, please let BravoAndy that we would love a Behind the Scenes/Did she just say that?! Hour instead of lost footage/prolonged reunion part 3!!!

          • Kotagirl29 says:

            OOOOOHHH, that’s a good idea. I WOULD like that much more than the recycled scenes they try to sell us in the “lost” footage episodes.

    • DarkSonnet says:

      Good for Simon! He probably just pushed several Housewives over the proverbial edge with this product.

      How long will it take for Jillousy and Luann to begin the public trashing? It probably has already begun.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        well to be fair to Cuntessa she never trashed wigs track despite wig trashing hers

        i hope this does well for Simon and they release remixes
        i still may use this version on my radioshow

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      keep in mind Wig didnt write tardy for the party it was some unknown country singer
      if it wasnt for Kandi it would never have had that club sound or been a hit

  8. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Thanks for the blog~Harvey~Q~Lynn
    Did not see bug episode yet but will when nothing else is on.
    Can’t wait to see the real thick as real thieves & thugs beat the crap out of each other! lol You can’t beat NYC & NJ for the best of the worst behavior. Just add alcohol & you got yourself the best shows ever!
    Cannot take much more of JZ & her fabulous fake friends. Not to mention the crazy ones.
    If nothing else they make our lives seem normal & loving.
    Loved Simon’s Song~good for him.
    Peace Love & Hugs~

    • HD says:

      I could not watch the bug episode. I am really, very, very, very scared of bugs. I couldn’t watch more than 2 seconds and I had to flip.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        I am only scared of bugs that can can bite & kill you. Like these wonderful brown recluse we have here. Not really scared of anything unless it can hurt you.
        I would have to be on an island with nothing else but bugs to ever eat one. Except snails~those are pretty good with a nice filo pastry & garlic & butter.

        • HD says:

          Believe it or not I ate snails and loved them. But if I see a bug I am paralyed. I mean soooooooooo scared. I know this is so stupid because I am a giant to the bug but I just feel like it is going to overtake me. There was a bug near my door yesterday and I wouldn’t even go in the house. I was soooooooooooooooo scared. To think people actually touched them and ate them. Ohhhhhhhhhh I can’t even talk about it. So gross!

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Don’t like bugs either and am not inclined to see them much less eat them.

          • Mimisfbay says:

            I am right there with you! Yes on escargot big NO on the whole bug thing. It made my skin crawl and I gagged at the thought. My friend was here and I ran outta the room. Good grief who gives a damn if a chef can cook bugs!!!! Of course I was also running for a coconut cream pie. Sigh.

            These challenges were just beyond me. Harvey, you are just the best and I deeply love you.

  9. cabbie413 says:

    *dance* i am real..i aint gonna change!

    get it Simon!

    can I just say, I love Simon!!

  10. vilzvet says:

    More beauties caught in NYC reruns: Kelly clearly stated to Luann during their shopping expedition, when asked by Lulu which specific charities she supports: “None.” Hilarious!!
    Flat out said that she is basically NOT charitable at all. Then, during the Creaky Joints meeting, Kelly says to the others that she is offered to help SO many charities and she simply has no time, and that she does not lend her name to “anything”. Note that this is the first time we hear Bethenny’s “a place of yes” catchphrase, directed to Kelly.

  11. MichellefromNY says:

    Watching kelly’s first season as bravo is rerunning them now on bravo, so many things make sense now.
    kelly is so full of herself. She’s a celebrity whore. She is constantly name dropping, showing up late, and being overly pretentious. And she looks godawful. Ten times worse than she does now. She looks washed up and leathery.
    Now I understand half of what kelly was saying on scary island. I think she has a very good memory, but its distorted so she doesn’t remember where she picked up something and she says it in a discombobulated way. Like on her phone call with jill when she makes the knife thrusts with the “eee, ee, eee” noise when she says that everyone is attacking her and she’s scared for her life, guess where she picked it up? Ramona at a fashion show. Ramona said it to her and i guess it became part of her repertoire.

    • MichellefromNY says:

      and Jill looks so much better. She just seems calmer and more normal

    • viki55 says:

      She actually got it from Bethenny. It was the 1st season when one of Alex’s boys was stabbling Jason 1 hamburgar. Bethenny doing a talkin head shot did it, from the movie Psycho shower sceen.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly was definately greasy looking with those dark pools of lunatic eyes going on. She was rude without a reason to be so as well. I dismissed her as B Filler until she flipped out on Scary Island.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      ==“eee, ee, eee” noise when she says that everyone is attacking her and she’s scared for her life, guess where she picked it up? Ramona at a fashion show.==

      I noticed that too.

      Kelly laughing and saying Al Sharpton was wacky.

  12. Debbie says:

    I don’t know who you are , possibly one of the frequent posters here. I must say that I thoroughly enjoy your recaps and your opinions. This blog is one of the TC recaps I most enjoy. It not only recaps but educates as well. I missed the episode last night and your recap has me looking forward to viewing it. Thanks. Invisible though you might be, I look forward to reading you each week.

  13. MK Valle says:

    Those NJ women, I just want to send them to their rooms to wash their faces! So much makeup, don’t know how their keep their eyes open. Icky.

  14. HD says:

    Ok Error…will you NOW agree with me that Simon needs to get a job after this stupid a$$ song?! I mean come on! LOL! WTF is wrong with him?!

    • HD says:

      Well nevermind, I just read your comments and see you love the song. I hate it. Honestly I do. Out of all the songs that these housewives make up that suck, I have to say Tardy for the Party was the catchiest. I was surprised by Danielle’s singing although I don’t remember that song. And Gretchen didn’t sing too bad. Goodness it’s been a lot of singers on these shows, word singer used very lightly. Countess, Danielle, Jo, Gretchen, Kim. Does that cover it? Now of course the onlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy house husband to come out with a song…drum roll…Simon. I never would have imagined he would have inserted himself yet again into Housewife stuff. What a surprise!

      • error404 says:

        never said I loved it.

        but yeah, still can’t see the sin in Simon “wanting to be a housewife”. All of this huff that he’s uppity and won’t keep his place as a sidekick/supporting actor is still silly to me.

        What’s the difference between this and Lawrence’s ‘Closet Freak’ ? Is it only ok if a Housewife writes the song?

        • HD says:

          Is Lawrence married to a housewife?

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          Let’s see.

          Large Gay African American singer in platforms , a sequinned mumu, with bleached hair and heavy lip gloss?

          Lawrence may not be a housewife- and I think he may be the secret lovechild of Sylvester- he reminds me so much of him!

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            oh man- I forgot all about Two Tons of Fun aka The Weathergirls:

            • HD says:

              OMIB- Is Lawrence large to you? I really do not see how these videos are relevant in any way.

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                um my opinion they are!
                lighten up HD

                • HD says:

                  Please keep it moving in regards to me. Please!

                  • HD says:

                    Ever since your shady comments to me a few blogs back you NEVER have to respond to ANYTHING I EVER put on this board and I would prefer that you didn’t. Don’t tell me to lighten up I am going to tell you to leave me alone and that is the politest way I can say it to you!

                    • OneMoreInBoston says:

                      oh hush- No one’s responding to you, I was responding to error404! and you responded to me, but I’m not allowed to respond to you?

                      just stop with your badself

                    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                      omg you 2 are fighting for real i thought u were just joking with each other

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                a man of color in drag
                Miss Lawrence has already said that Sylvester was a big inspiration to him

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              And Sonja saying it’s raining men at the end of her lame Grand Marshalass speech had me utubing the girls! lol

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              oopies- forgot the one with the fan:

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            did you know he is in the Bette Midler film The Rose Playing a drag queen doing Diana Ross

  15. NAmerican says:

    I am an American (from NYC) living in Canada and we don’t get Bravo shows till a few months after they air in the U.S. I can view some shows online, but with a few days delay and the Bravotv.com videos are blocked outside of the U.S. So, Lynn, I depend on your blog to get my Bravo fix. I love Top Chef Masters, and am happy that Top Chef Canada just started airing on Food Network. My favorite show is BEA, LOVE HER! Looking forward to hearing about The NJ mobsters, oops, I mean the NJ Housewives – looking forward to the vile ladies from the past seasons being beat down by the new vile ladies coming this season. Teresa, Caroline, and Jacqueline all need to be cut down a peg – they are the Jersey Shore in Cocktail dresses.

    Again, thank you and your readers for your blogs and their input, it makes me feel like the ugly American that the Housewives show portray on television.

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      Ditto that — I’m the same boat – I’m in Canada and I have to depend on Lynn and Real City Housewife for my Housewife fixes until the episodes air in Canada!

      • quincyil says:

        and… when I travel… I pretend to be Canadian…

        It’s a small, small world.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I don’t!

          I speak loudly- oftentimes bellowing.

          I wear brightly colored, ill fitting clothes that are never in accordance with the cultural norms of the country I’m visiting.

          I make fun of the locals trying to speak English. I also point at them inappropriately.

          I over indulge in the local alcoholic beverage and chant USA!USA! until I’m hoarse or the local police are called.

          I complain, quite emphatically and repeatedly, that the minibar prices are just ridiculous!

          When my fanny pack itches, I scratch…my fanny.

          My last name is Guidice.

      • NAmerican says:

        I also just heard that they may be doing a Real Housewives of Toronto! What do you think of that? eh?

    • @tweatcyn says:

      You should ask @putyourhairup for the sites she uses to watch current BRAVO shows in Montreal. She listed them for someone else previously.

  16. anna says:

    That is not an excuse. The Real Housewives of New jersey began as “jersey moms” or something like that. It is one, if not the most, successful housewives franchise.

    • error404 says:

      RHNY started as “Manhattan Moms” but Alex’s inclusion of her husband, her kids, her parenting, in s1 have all cost her dearly, as she remain one of the most criticized HWs. She might have a following here, but pretty much all the recap blogs contain posts in the comment section that border on bashing.

      • anna says:

        She is hardly the only one.When people become public figures, they put themselves out there for bashing/praise from the public.

  17. quincyil says:

    I wonder if Cat O read Lynn’s blog the other day. I wish she would be on the NYC RH. I think that twitter people do have power and I wish that some leader would support the move for Cat O.

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      I agree. I think Cat O doesn’t care much for Jilliousy (esp after Jill dissed RHODC on Wendy Williams) . Cat v. Jill would be a very interesting matchup on RHONY. She would call out Kelly and LuAnn and everyone else too. Especially LuAnn.

      LuAnn got to sit next to Prince William at a christening years ago, but Cat made out with Prince Harry, so there LuAnn. lol

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Can’t stand Cat, but would enjoy seeing her be rude to the QuifferOfAccountability i.e. Jillzilla! LOL If Ginger/Jill farts i’m sure Cat would lose her shit!


        A man sits down on a bench next to an old lady and her little dog to read his paper. Soon he hears the old lady laughingly says “Frenchie you passed gas!” and he smells it. Again he smells the same aroma and the old lady says “Frenchie, bad boy stop it!” and smiles at the man. A third time the odor wafts to him and the old lady says “Frenchie come on you’re being rude!”. All of the sudden there’s a loud trumpeting sound off the bench and the old lady says “Frenchie-” The man interrupts and says “Frenchie you better move before she shits on you!” 😉

      • twoile says:

        @A, I would have 2 c a pic of that IE Lulu b side Prince W (NOT PHOTOSHOP) b 4 I believed it …….she may have passed the room/building that the Baptism was in but I just can’t by it=)

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I wish Cat would go back to England. jmho

  18. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill drives me nuts with the “MarryO” and “Ramoner” – does she do this on purpose?

  19. VAgirl says:

    Ginger looks so skinny and happier in this episode. Jill has ruined the poor thing and she looks so fat and miserable now.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill tweeted yesterday that Ginger’s leg was bag again and she was taking her to the vet. After listening to what Jill feeds Ginger, the lack of exercise, the nasty behavior – she ruined that poor dog!

  20. Jane says:

    I was watching an older episode of NY this morning – the crew was at a charity event for the American Red Cross – and “the countess” was being honored…she talked through the whole event – even after scoulding the whole crowd for doing the same thing and then went on and on because the MC did not call her properly “the countess”…I had forgotten about how much that woman bothers me until I saw that again. What a classless twit!

  21. Nancy says:

    Why does Jill have the need to pretend she spends so much money (on herself) when we all know she doesn’t? I wonder if anyone has bought the charity hat that NeNe made?
    Jill is probably pissed at Bravo today because they are repeating s3 once again. I have a feeling this won’t be Jill’s finest hour. (aka s4)

    Kelly and her kids are with Jill right now as Jill gets her $16,000 bag (for free). Isn’t that a great mother/daughter outing for Kelly and her girls? Watching some #&%#!
    spend that kind of money will be so helpful when they become adults.
    Jill just told Kelly that she wishes Kelly would give Alex and Simon some parenting classes as her kids are so out of control. Speechless!

    • lovemamaearth says:

      lol You mean you don’t think Jill will restore her honor in this season? She’s pulling the same stuff on others that she focused on B last season. And she expects a different outcome.

    • error404 says:

      perhaps Shed will do a clips montage to show right after Jill asks Alex “What have I ever said bad about you or your family? Nothing!” LOL

  22. Miss Katherine says:

    i wouldn’t be surprised if cat is getting her own show

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I would need to be sedated! LOL I could see her causing trouble in NY but her own show? Doubt it.

  23. Casey says:

    Simon’s song is not half bad but what is up with all these people releasing songs. It is starting to get to me. I just think it is ridiculous. Did you guys see the questions for Alex on Andy FB page for WWHL? Looks like she is going to get hammered, which I did not expect to happen. I really hope she comes off well tonight.
    Tamra said on FB last night she had a bad day yesterday. Wonder what is up? Eddie troubles? Simon troubles? I have noticed though whenever she has the kids she spends so much time on FB and twitter. So much for quality time. She seems like the type where her kids are cramping her style in her new freedom. Such a shame.

    • error404 says:

      Someone mentioned here the other day that the WWHL guests seemed to be following a damage control pattern after a bad episode, so tonight might not go well for Alex if the pattern continues.

  24. Lisa says:

    I heard that Tamra and Eddie are trying to get their own show….God, I hope not! BARF

  25. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Slightly OT but still relevant-

    I once hired a medical esthetician to work for me named Yanira. She was very pretty, very quiet, and a very hard worker.

    One day I had a particularly unpleasant run in with a patient at my MedSpa. It was so bad I almost started to cry after she left. I had forgotten that Yanira was in the corner of the room we were in, doing her charts, because that’s how quiet and unobtrusive she was.

    After the patient left- Yanira put down her charts and said really softly to me ”Stop taking it to the ass” I said “excuse me please?” And Yanira said it again: ”stop taking it to the ass” Where I come from “taking it to the ass” means taking it too personally. It’s not about you- that lady has something else going on.

    I am finding that there is someone here on this very blog who is taking my comments to the ass.

    I am forbidden, FORBIDDEN! from responding to her. On a public blog. That belongs to someone else. But I digress.

    Anyhoo, we all know there are people who are hostile to our blog who come here to troll. We are all familiar with the Tollie Trolley.

    What the TheOneWhoForbids doesn’t realize is sometimes hostile people ***embed*** themselves into the blog…sometimes as a prank…they worm their way in to form relationships with us, the regular posters.

    Sometimes they pose as people with a lot of problems, sometimes even with illnesses, like cancer. They think it’s funny. Sometimes Lynn catches them and blocks them and sometimes they just go away on there own.

    Now imagine (just pretend here with me for a moment) that a beloved poster that we all know is decidedly NOT a troll, decides to form an offsite chat room? It seems perfectly innocent doesn’t it?

    Well if no one says anything about it, then another poster could form another chat room too right? **Maybe** even an embedded troll who is monitoring this blog daily could form a chat room?

    Maybe even a troll could (or has) come here pretending that they have cancer. And then form a chat room for Cancer patients. And get the other unknowing posters who have cancer go to the chat room to reveal personal information about themselves. And then maybe ask for donations for his or her cancer.

    Doesn’t sound like a good situation, does it? It sure didn’t sound good to me. So I spoke up.

    But instead of taking a look at the bigger picture, TheOneWhoForbids wants to take it to the ass and make it all about them. And then wants to try and control the blog by telling who can and can’t respond to them. Like a big baby that crys, crys, crys,

    Whatevs- I’m still posting videos until Lynn tells me to stop.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      p.s I don’t really like Johnny Cash but it wouldn’t let me post Cee Lo Green 😉

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        oohhh! SPANISH!

      • twoile says:

        @OMIB….pls don’t take the sitution personally….a few week ago a similar situation happend 2 me when “she who (wants) 2 , b obeyed” told me in no uncertain terms that I should butt out of a conversation between herself & ?…..I was oblivious as to what conversation she was ref 2….& responded that my missive wasn’t 2 either one of them….talented though she may b I find her a bit off. Take care u r not a bit off u r very much on.=)

    • viki55 says:

      Okay, so if all that is true, who is the person the other good people on this blog should be aware of before they get sucked in?

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        dunno- they come and go- think about all of the missing posters. Some of them are legit and some aren’t.
        Lynn catches some of them and some of them she doesn’t. personally I think there’s more than one.

        IMHO-It’s just a bad idea to form sub chat rooms and invite people to go from a public forum. If someone wants to contact others and set something up on the side- no big deal -but to do it on a public blog-and someone else’s blog to boot is just not a good idea.

        I thought we were all fine on this issue except today I get commands not to respond to a poster. Just ridiculous.

        • viki55 says:

          Yes, it does seem ridiculous. I have been on this blog since the beginning. There have always been differences of opinions. I sure do miss a lot of good people but new ones always seem to show up. I have to say I haven’t seen anything on the site inviting people to other chat rooms but then I don’t hang here 24-7. I used to do MIRC chat back in the old days so I know how easy it can be to get sucked into things that may or may not be true. I basically lost a big part of my life by being fooled on the internet. I try not to get that involved any more. But I also don’t want other people who are as naive as I was to suffer. If there is a warning to be issued I wish Lynn would look into it and let people know. The rest is “water off a ducks back” :0)

        • HD says:

          OMIB is speaking about me and this issue. Let’s not act stupid and I don’t do passive aggressive stuff. We started a chat, five people or so chatted as we watched old reruns of NYC. The chat existed for a few hours and I thought it was a GREAT idea.

          Lynn has since thought chatting in real time was a good idea I guess because I see we have blogs for real time chat every since then and a lot of people participate. I have never saw a real time chat on this blog since the chat room issue came up. It doesn’t take much to put two and two together on that issue. I like chatting in real time and apparently so do all the others that do it on the Chat Live Blogs.

          OMIB it is not what you said but how you said it. Lynn did not say ONE WORD yet I guess you have deemed yourself the blog police and I am really not the one. Now if you have something to say to me feel free to email me but don’t bring drama and BS to the board to involve other people. I emailed you BEHIND THE BOARD to avoid this but being the MATURE PERSON YOU ARE you brought it to the board. Please cease with the inflated drama. You could have emailed me so what is your REAL GOAL HERE? I mean for real? To involve other people or what?

          OMIB if you want to act like a clown, I can zip up your suit. I am really not the one.

          I would appreciate for the sake of no drama if others really stayed out of this issue. Not to tell you all what to post but this is about me and OMIB has the issue with ME that she tried to FAKELY veil behind some boving spillage. Everyone here knows I tell it like it is and not how I want it to look with some FAKE SUPPOSE AND WHAT IF SCENERIO. I emailed OMIB behind the board because that is where I would have liked for it to stay and I don’t want to bog the blog down with a long diatribe when she could have hit me back. Period. It was really JUST THAT SIMPLE.

          • HD says:

            @ viki-You would have to go back to see the tone in which all of this happened and I can’t remember the blog perhaps OMIB can. Basically me who has been here since the OLD site was sabatoging and setting Lynn up for failure. My character was called into question. It was not a “difference of opinion”. Anytime someone questions my character when I have been nothing but who I am, I have an issue with that person and would much rather not deal with them.

            As for me telling OMIB not to respond to me, I am not for fake B.S. I really am not. We don’t like each other so keep it moving. I don’t pretend and I am not fake. I am good for bypassing things I just do not like or agree with without starting a HUGE debate and blah blah blah. It is easy for OMIB just to bypass my post which is why I said don’t talk to me. It is just that simple. I am a firm believer when you do not like someone, you just leave them along and everything continues to work out fine. When someone show you who they are BELIEVE THEM!

            • lovemamaearth says:

              Yes but lighten up isn’t a bad insult.

              It seems you’re both over reacting to not a very big deal. Isn’t it just as easy for you to ignore her as the other way around?

              • HD says:

                I did and I sent her an email but apparently she wants to get her Oscar on so now its her time to shine. I can ignore stuff but don’t make up some “fake” scenerio when she and I both know what it is.

            • viki55 says:

              See how stupid and naive I am? I wasn’t concerned with you two having a disagreement, those things work out or they don’t. And none of my business. I wasn’t trying to get involved with either of you. I just picked up on the insinuation that someone was being scammed and I was concerned for others. Pardon me please. Moving on and away from this drama.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              Hannah- I never responded to you. I was responding to error44 -but because you take everything to the ass you called me out.

              Don’t start none, won’t be none.

              I actually really like you. So I guess, Hannah, you don’t like me.

              oh wellsies

              Lynn never said a word to you saying it was a good idea or a bad idea. YOU decided it was a good idea.

              I never received any email from you.

              once again you’re taking it to the ass by saying your character was called into question- it never was. It’s all in black and white on the blog.

              And yes, someone ***else*** could’ve come along and started a competing site by starting a chat room.

              You don’t have any perspective on the long term ramifications of your actions.

              As far as the blog police goes? I have an opinion and I expressed it.

              You ARE the one.

              • HD says:

                Yes you are right I AM THE ONE any day of the week!

                • OneMoreInBoston says:

                  but Hannah honey, you just said you weren’t the one? and that you were going to zip up my clown suit?

                  • HD says:

                    I’m not the one for STUPID STUFF but if you want to continue with this line of drama, you picked the right one today. Please, continue.

                    • OneMoreInBoston says:

                      You keep threatening me, I guess you want me to be scared of you?

                    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

                      I have seen you be rude to more than 3 different people in 2 days. Why doesn’t Lynn say anything about it?

                    • LynnNChicago says:


                      That is a serious statement and I’d really like you to show me where I’ve ignored someone being rude to another poster here. My only rule is that we don’t attack other people here so if you could show me what I missed, I’d appreciate it.

                      Thank you

                    • OneMoreInBoston says:

                      Baa Bee:???

                      please point out when I’ve been rude?

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              please dot get mad at me HD Or Boston
              i have to just say this
              im really in shock because i always assumed you 2 were really good friends from this blog
              I really enjoy both of you here and hope it can all work out
              hugs to both of you

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I think I missed something. Is this all in response to HD’s comments?

          Don’t we all have bad days?

          • HD says:

            THANK YOU! And that is EXACTLY why it shouldn’t have been brought to the board and I sent OMIB an EMAIL! THANK YOU! If she wanted to REALLY say something to me wouldn’t it have been easier to send an email to me?

            • nancy says:

              I agree that we should leave this off the board. I will say I enjoy both HD and OMIB’s posts. I hardly ever post as you all pretty much say what I was thinking. Sometimes people just rub others wrong. Fine, just move on to the next post.

              • @tweatcyn says:

                This is sounding like some of the twitter wars crap I try my best to avoid. I wouldn’t worry about competing sites. I’d worry about this kind of dialogue driving people away from this blog.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              Well I’m not taking sides. If there were complaints about the live chat, I guess it’s good to discuss. I saw one live chat going on and thought it was fun.

              This forum isn’t very easy to keep up with the new comments because they’re just inserted. If you come late to the party, you see them and if you come early, you have to keep scrolling up n dwn to see what’s new.

              I love word press for giving us a free site but a more sophisticated forum would be more interactive. JMHO (and good luck to you both working out the disagreement)

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              I never received an email from you.

              You told me to move along on or whatever upthread on the blog. Now I’m supposed to be emailing you?

              You have some unrealistic expectations of what I’m “supposed” to be doing.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              How did you get her email?

              • HD says:

                Because OMIB emailed me before concerning WSL and I never delete any emails. It is a habit from my job-long story. So that is how I have it.

                • OneMoreInBoston says:

                  oh that email address? I deleted that months ago.

                  Guess you’ll just have to be upfront and center with me instead-where everyone can see you threatening me.

                • lovemamaearth says:

                  It must be an email that she doesn’t check very often then maybe. Maybe next time, invite her to a live chat.

                  I like you both so I hope it works out.

                • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

                  Hi Hannah~
                  You have never been anything but kind & generous & helpful.
                  You are a great person & I consider you one of the smartest & sweetest people I know.

                  • HD says:

                    Thank you, Baabee. I really wish this was behind the board but since this fake scenerio was presented and I don’t do fake shyt, it is what it is. I have ALWAYS been honest. I don’t do Luann’s i.e. passive agressive bullshyt! I keep it REAL DAILY! If you gonna talk about it, be about and let’s talk about it. If not keep it moving. I am just who I am and I think who I am has been represented on this board since DAY ONE back on the OLD BLOG! I am not a troll or any of that. I am just me and anyone that comes here can at least admit that. I have been consistently me.

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              Good days or bad days aside – everyone’s voice adds to the richness of this blog! Love you all and hope this gets resolved soon. Peace!

    • justanothermary says:

      Ummmm, some of us have had ligit issues, have found support here and have had to leave for periods of time due to various issues. Not sure if I’m being over sensitive or not.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        not about you- and I almost said something about it not being about you. Everyone knows you’re legit.

        • justanothermary says:

          Sorry OMIB – so much going on I tend to get over-sensitive and take everything to heart. Not trying to stir up anything, just me being insecure.

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            no worries!

            • HD says:

              No one is threatening you but HANNAH is NEVER going to BACK DOWN FROM YOU! Honey, please! Not on your BEST DAY! I am not ALEX! LOL! LMAO! Please continue. I think EVERYONE has agreed with me to keep this off the board. Why make up a FAKE scene? Why post the FUCK YOU SONG TO ME?! Really?! Fuck me? Really? Okay.

              As far as a fake email…I am not gonna pull a Jill but I have the email. And nooooooo I did not keep it for this purpose. (I do not delete emails because of the nature of my job. People tend to come back and say, “I never said that” and with my job I have to be able to say, “yes, you did”. I have emails from YEARS ago. I just have to. I am in NO WAY like Jill saving stuff to use at a later date to hurt people.)

              Who could have foreseen this? We used to be like peanut butter and jelly but honestly OMIB and I am being honest here, I HEARD you about the chatroom, I did. I feel that. But you came at me like I was DELIBERATELY trying to sabotage Lynn. What would I gain from that? Hell, I’m here EVERY DAY before ANYONE ELSE! I stay on this blog! Why would I try to hurt Lynn and her numbers? Once you said it could affect hits, I said I understood but you took it to another level. Also, if I chat with Baabee, you, Error, DJ (just throwing out names for the sake of names) I am NOT gonna stop posting on the blog. Why would do that?! But I heard you. No one ever did that to hurt Lynn and her hits. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and although we enjoyed chatting live, we NEVER did it again because I understood what you were saying. Did I agree, no. But did I understand, yes. Because I can chat live and STILL comment on a blog but like I said I understood you.

              That hurt me because we were cool that it seemed like you questioned my CHARACTER. If anyone on this blog can say one thing about me it is Hannah says HER TRUTH. I don’t b.s., I don’t sugarcoat, I am honest. Ya’ll know that and YOU of all people, I thought knew that. So when you came at me like that, that hurt. It did. I was like, damn have I know shown myself to be a loyal person to Lynn and the blo?! Hell I was here LONG before she even came to this version of the site. I have been here since day one damn near. Why would I up and decide to sabotage Lynn now? And I GET what you were saying. I feel you. Which is why I am HAPPY we have live blog chat now. It all works. And hey, since that incident happened that only makes for MORE hits on the blog. So it all worked out but the way you came at me, hurt. It did and that’s the reality of how I felt.

            • HD says:

              I wrote a long thing but it didn’t show up and yes THAT email address so now you are saying you deleted that email address (So you can STOP calling me a liar and all that like I didn’t send an email? I have NOOOO reason to lie! I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN FROM LYING! Thank you.) which is cool but most people tend to keep their email addresses for some time and I thought it was valid-my bad. But I DID email you but you deleted that address…okay…

              My email essentially said what I said here, just ignore me. If you take that as threatening, I need to take you around my neck of the woods. Now that would shock you. This here, is candy canes and lollipops! If you feel threatened you need to back up and take a smoke, a drink, a walk or whatever you need because honey, THIS is HARDLY me threatening you.

              As for what I wrote earlier, I was basically saying you and I used to get along like peanut butter and jelly but you called my character into question and that hurt. I have been nothing but Hannah on this blog. I tell it like I see it, I call it like I see it, if someone disagrees with me so be it. I don’t care. Error and DJ can amen me on that. We hardly ever agree but we still respect each other. This is NOT about a disagreement on a blog. You called my character into question. I have been here since DAY ONE practically since the OLD blog. Hello! What would I gain from sabotaging, Lynn with a chatroom? Why would I do that if I thought the way YOU think? You asked me then “why chat live?” Well, Lynn is posting LIVE CHAT BLOGS! Hmmmmm. And LOTS of people are commenting on them. I wonder why?! There is something organic about chatting in real time! BUT I heard what you were saying! I did! I got it! Which is why it never happened again. I get it. But the way you came at me it hurt. Because of allllllllll people here I thought you of all people knew me enough to know that is HARDLY the person I am. I don’t do shit like that. Not intentionally and YES the road to hell is paved with good intentions but I would NEVER in a million years sabotage or attempt to sabotage Lynn. NEVER! That thought never even entered my mind on ANY level. I love this place. Hell, and even you have to admit this, I am here most of the times before ANYONE gets here! And then I stay on all day and when I leave work I come back here! Ya’ll know that cause ya’ll all have seen it. It just would not make sense for me to be like that yet come here 24/7. It is not logical. I love this place. (hate Jill) Sooooooooo honestly, when you said that I was hurt. I expected a little more from you in knowing me because we were “close” or as close as you can be on a blog but you feel me. Like I said, I UNDERSTOOD CLEARLY what you were saying, but how you said it and what you insinuated really did hurt because I am not that woman to smile in your face and stab you in your back so it hurt me on a deeper level. Do you see what I am saying?

              • OneMoreInBoston says:

                Yes, I get it- you’re hurt. I said it at the time and I’ll say it again, I knew that you meant no harm, and that your intentions were good.

                You have a good, and moral character.

                I think maybe TOO good, and TOO moral because you can’t see the pitfalls of setting a precedent where others with less character could come in and hurt posters.

                Your character was NEVER called into question.

                But you took it to the ass that someone was trying to insult you.

                Take a step back and look at everything WITHOUT you in it. That it was just some random Joe Schmoe setting up a chat room.

                Now imagine that you did set it up- it went well, and then others set up chat rooms…Other Joe Schmoes…Maybe a random troll….NOW do you see where I’m going with this?

                HD- really, there were no insinuations ever. I do feel you, and I’ve always liked you.

                But I’m also not a yes man (woman?) either.

                If I see someone, even someone I like, doing something that I think may bring harm to others then I believe I have an obligation to speak out.

                Honestly, if it were me? I would want you to do the same.

              • lovemamaearth says:

                She’s said in two posts that she likes you. From all I can see you both jumped on something that wasn’t worth it. Go back to yesterday and all is well.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        A while back my son’s best buddy was in the car with my husband, me & son. Hubby & I sometimes quibble when we argue (loudly). Son’s friend was shocked & worried. So he says “but we all still love each other, right?” lol, yes we told him!

        I love both HD & OMIB. Now after you both take a short time out shake hands & get back to being what we know, funny & great posters!

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I need a time out just to catch my breath- this is exhausting!

          Clash of The Titans: postponed for a nap

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            aww I luv you both!

            • OneMoreInBoston says:


            • cusi77 says:

              ((((Love, love, love HD and OMIB))))

              • Sammysmom says:

                I love you both too. I love this whole board and I am soooo glad it’s here.

                • HD says:

                  I love everyone here and I have learned so much here. You all HONESTLY and I have noooooooooo REASON to lie were some of first outside of my family I told I was pregnant and THE FIRST I told that I lost my baby. People in my EVERYDAY LIFE don’t even know I was pregnant and lost a baby. They have no clue. But I felt THAT CLOSE to this Lynn Fam. I really did. I could go and on but I won’t. I am just not a sugar coater. I just say it and that’s that.

                  OMIB-I hear you and you may not think you called my character into question but you did and that hurt me. Maybe go back and read your comments on the original blog. Now I am gonna chill because I am sure LYNN is going to start a LIVE BLOG CHAT (hmmm? Really you mean a LIVE chat? What a novel idea!) shortly for the new NYC episode and you might miss this. But go back and look at yourself, for real.

  26. vilzvet says:

    I don’t know why I had Gretchen over Tamra in my five least favorite HWs. It’s gotta be Tamra, as annoying as Gretchen is. Did you catch the latest preview…Tamra made a derogatory weight comment about the returning Jeana.

    • viki55 says:

      Ya, and I can’t remember what Jeana ever did to Tamra to make her be so mean. There was talk that Jeana was friends with Simon but it Tamra is so in love and has moved on, why would she care? Something isn’t quite right with Tamra.

      • justanothermary says:

        Icky and Jeana had a falling out some time ago and are no longer friends and Tamra has her entire head up Icky’s ass so maybe that’s the issue.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Tamra doesn’t like that Jeanna gets along with Simon and actually listens to him.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        Remember when Jeana said “remember where Tamra comes from” right in front of everyone at some dinner? Jeana was referring to Tamra’s trashy past…Tamra never forgave her & of course Vicki was there to offer her shoulder for Tamra to cry on.

        I miss Jeana too.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        did it have something to do with Jeana telling the press that she doubts that Simon was ever abusive to Tamra

        Honestly I think it was the other way around

    • I am glad that Jeana is going to be on next week. I miss her. I wish RHOOC would stop making so many cast changes. There is a new ‘housewife’ every season.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I liked Jeana too. She was smart to save her sanity & leave the show though.

        • error404 says:

          I don’t really watch RHOC, but I did watch Thintervention and there was just something off about Jenna on that show, like she’s shut down and unresponsive. The only scene from RHOC I really remember was one where she was telling one or two other HWs that she was leaving the show, and I sorta remember her being the same way there too, but at the time I dismissed it as she had made up her mind and there was no point in discussing it at length. Is she normally like that?

          • VAgirl says:

            I agree, Error. She’s kind of a closed-off person. A little on RHOC, but more so on Thintervention. If I remember correctly, she always seemed nice, but she did stir the pot a little between the girls (or should I say women who act like girls).

          • lovemamaearth says:

            If I went on a weight loss show, I’d be a little off too. lol What a dreadful thing to put yourself through.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i feel the same way i liked her from the start
        she was the only one at that dinner that tried to help Gretchen not get so drunk

        Icky & Trampolina should have been arrested for doing that
        what if Gretchen had gotten alcohol poisoning

        • mariareads says:

          I like Jeanna too. I don’t know why. She’s certainly not perfect but did you all see the previews ? Jeanna looks great! She really did lose weight. But it looks like she and Tamara are going to get into it and that T girl can get really snarky! I’m not liking Tamara at all. She’s a nasty girl. But then, I guess they all are LOL!

  27. vilzvet says:

    You guys are not going to believe this, I just was checking twitter and Ramona tweeted that she is heading in my direction to do an appearance at a big wine store only 2 miles from my house! I’m definitely going to go, I think it will be worth getting a bottle of her Pinot Grigio to see her. I had no idea she was doing appearances to push her wine, but if book signings are popular, why not wine signings! This was not advertised anywhere around here so I do not expect a Bethenny-sized crowd. She said she is going to be there from 5 to 7 p.m. I’m going to go early since it is so close by and try to be among the first.

    • VAgirl says:

      That’s exciting! I hope you get to meet her. Please let us know how it goes.

    • viki55 says:

      Too Kewl!! Get a picture!!

      • vilzvet says:

        The store is a former shoe store, my daughter actually worked there briefly, and right across the street is a tiny four star Italian restaurant that I am going to recommend to her unless she is heading straight home afterwards (it’s a good hour from her apt). Hope she doesn’t get stuck in traffic, because she’s picking a bad time to head out onto LI from the city. I’m going go a little early in case there is a crowd. Looking forward to it. Will definitely take a pic.

        • viki55 says:

          I was born on Long Island, Mitchell Airfield, East Meadow, when it was there. Is the Italian food as good as it is in NJ? I have been in Texas 30 something years and still can’t find good Italian (I have to make it)!

    • RoxyMusic says:

      I met her at a similar liquor store wine signing last week, by accident. She is sweet, magnetic and quite beautiful in person. And she’s purpose-driven: there to sell her wine, not to dish “Housewives”, FYI.

    • nancy says:

      This is fantastic. I so luv Ramona. Please get the scoop and report back.

    • justanothermary says:

      I’m a little jelly!!! Have a great time, we’ll be waiting for a full report.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Good for you. Take a picture if you are able.

      • vilzvet says:

        I’m back already from meeting Ramona! It pays to live 5 minutes away! There was already a short line of people who had bought the wine, so I did so. In the meantime a whole mess of people came in and just got on the line, not good. You are supposed to buy the wine first. So after I paid I cut them all and told them what they had to do, teehee. Ramona came in right before 5 with a male assistant and big smiles for all. She looked stunning in a blue sheath dress, she is quite tiny. The wine store had several flatscreens on the wall all tuned to the HW marathon we have all been talking about today. I was alone but chatted with two women in front of me to pass the few short minutes. The store was also giving out free samples of her wine but I bypassed that. When I was almost next Avery called her cellphone, it was so funny. She took the call and had a mild argument with her about how she wanted to speak to the mother of the girl having Avery over to thank her, and Avery was hesitating. She didn’t mind us hearing her side and told her daughter that it is only proper to thank the mother for her hospitality. She rolled her eyes at her exasperation and said “I’m hanging up on you, bye!” to end the call. Pretty funny stuff.
        It was then my turn and she held out her hand, said “Hi, I’m Ramona, what’s your name?” so politely. I said “Vil” and she said what an unusual name. We posed for the picture but it was kinda awkward; unlike Alex and Simon where we went behind them to pose (that’s the way to do it) we had to lean over in front of the table. I almost moved the table when leaning against it, and she joked, “don’t knock over the table!” Someone took our picture with my camera since I was alone and that was it! I was back home within 30 minutes, I wish all the Housewives could be that close by!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill has to be having fits – Bethenny’s net worth is like 3 times Bobby’s now and climbing! Loving it!

      • floridagirl88 says:

        That’s what I was thinking as I read the article. Bethenny has on her own surpassed in wealth all those haters who didn’t want to film with her. To Kelly: who’s up here and who’s down there now, byatch! Jill: ha ha ha ha ha. LooseAnn: what’s your title worth?

        I like that Bethenny had a vision and a business plan which guided her to success. Anybody wonder if the $120M is the right amount?

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Worse yet for Jill, Luann, Kelly and now Sonja is that Bethenny didn’t have to screw an old dude to get her money. She earned it for real! LOL

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Plus she has a hot husband! A beautiful baby! And her star continues to rise.

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          Yes, plus she will make even more as more drinks are added to the line. B said somewhere that her children’s children won’t have to worry. So happy for B. Add that 120 M to what she already had (close to 20 M?) and then the latest book, season 3 of BEA, wow she is close to 150 million! When she gets the talk show won’t be long until she closes on 200 million…go Bethenny!

      • error404 says:

        the article mentioned a partner from Skyy, so maybe she only gets half of the $120.

    • @tweatcyn says:

      Really good and interesting article. Thanks for sharing the link.

  28. @tweatcyn says:

    Just found this at Terry’s blog. I didn’t read any of above yet so apologize if already mentioned. Simon VanKempen is a new Break out singing housewife star! You must listen to his song “I Am Real” I LUUUUURVVV it!


    • viki55 says:

      That was a great read. Thanks!

    • Kotagirl29 says:

      Got to hand it to her, if the estimates are right about selling for $120 million she definitely making bank now. That’s gotta really chap JZ’s ass.

    • ramonacoaster says:

      Read like a well-researched article. So Bethenny’s probably splitting $120mil with her business partner, less lawyer’s fees, less production & cost fees.
      She still makes bank! Good for her.

  29. justanothermary says:

    Does anyone else find the reruns more interesting to watch knowing what we know now. It kinda fills in some of the blanks and reminds me of some of the really stupid things that have happened in the past. Kelly was just plain weird from the get go!

    • VAgirl says:

      I was just thinking the same thing. Knowing what we know now makes the perspective a little different, doesn’t it?

    • lovemamaearth says:

      B tried to warn us. lol

      Don’t forget the cosmo rules that men are supposed to think of our vaginas as a Vauze and every time my DH thinks of me, he should send flowers. lol

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And the lines she stole for her Scary Island breakdown and Reunion Remix – like IV of Pinot Grigio!

  30. Jane says:

    Am I being blocked? Did I say something to offend someone? I can’t find the comment I entered about 2 hours ago?

  31. Nancy says:

    This should have been a clue.
    Kelly arriving at her own party (late) dressed as a Playboy Bunny saying “I’m also a mother so I had to have a fun costume.”
    OK Kelly I wonder what her costume would have been if she wasn’t a “mother”?

  32. tweatcyn says:

    Duchess! Apply at major hospitals in your area. They pay considerably more for billing/coding and offer great insurance benefits. Dr offices are the lowest payers for these sevices.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      That’s really good advice. Dr’s offices get screwed with the healthcare costs, since they don’t have very many employees. Hospitals would have more opportunity for advancement too! Duchess you sound like you would be great in a human resources/management environment with your people skills.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Several of my friends work as “coder’s” for hospitals out of their homes. Make really good money.

  33. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wondering if Kelly sits and watches the RHNY seasons over and over again. Kelly thinks she is acting – I keep hearing snipnets of what Kelly was spouting during the Scary Island/Reunion! And I now understand what Bethenny was experiencing with her better as well and seeing that the other women just ignored her bizarre behavior. Truthfully, I ignored Kelly’s scenes because she was not just boring but annoying so now I know why I was so floored with her Scary Island “performance”!

    • Nancy says:

      Do you think she was “acting”? I have no doubt she was doing Meth. 100%

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Kelly said she was “acting” but I think she was having a breakdown/anxiety attacks/possible drugs involved real life experience.

        • error404 says:

          I think there are so many things wrong with Kiki it’s hard to settle on just one. She seems to have this habit of parroting which is very disturbing, since the repeated phrases often just come out of no where in a terretts like manner. Almost all of the bizarre Scary Island dinner nonsense can be traced back to a root, but at the time it sounded crazy. Well, it is crazy actually, since repeating it didn’t make sense to the context of the real time conversation.

        • Nancy says:

          Do you think she’s on “meds” now? I do. She seemed very calm on the show last week. I have a feeling Bravo needed an OK from a doctor for her to stay on.
          What do you think?

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Meds, handlers and spoon fed lines. The calm before the storm.

            • quincyil says:

              I think she is being fed lines and handled too. I think it may be Bravo producers doing it so there won’t be another break through.

      • @tweatcyn says:

        And throw in a little bi-polar and ADD with the Meth. Bad combo.

  34. @tweatcyn says:

    Quincy and Harvey,
    I loved todays TCM blog. So packed full of interesting background details and research. BRAVO! Those bugs were gagging me the whole quickfire. I’d rather survive on beans for protein than put a worm in my mouth. Crickets and scorpions I could handle-maybe.

  35. TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:



    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      hmmm sometimes people sue for no reason, in the hopes they will get a settlement. Gretchen seems to attract lawsuits. Plus she sued her ex Jay, look where that led. SMH Gretchen is trying to cash in on her 15 minutes of fame. Emails, voice mails – that doesn’t sound like a good way to end a business relationship. She should have had an attorney terminate the relationship, just so she would not have to worry about future lawsuits.

      • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

        Yeah I can’t figure the whole thing out myself.

        She does say ” with the assistance of our Counsel here” so I don’t know why it has to go to this level. It kinda seems like someone has something to hide and that’s what I can’t seem to figure out, the who is hiding what lol

        I adored Gretchen her first season but her laugh gets to me and makes me cringe. I was always a Jeana and Laurie fan so them leaving the show, I just watch b/c I have to see what happens, rather than really caring about any of them anymore.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Gretchen/Slade are both shady and can’t spin their BS fast enough!

      • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

        I want to believe their love is true. I love me a good true love story…I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

        • justanothermary says:

          IMHO if Gretchen really cared for Slade she would not be putting him down so much and NEVER in public.

          • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

            Ya know, that’s an excellent point. She shouldn’t do it in public on the show the way she is. I see this from a different perspective now…wow…

    • @tweatcyn says:

      It doesn’t seem to explain the statement Wretchen’s former male assistant gave stating he witnessed shady transactions to cut her out and was told don’t worry about it by G and S.

  36. Kelly_Has_Big_Shoulders says:

    I live in Miami , and I wish the RHOM show would’ve had better promotion.

    • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

      I actually quite liked the show. Mainly Marysol. I thought she was the nicest.

      I was surprised to learn that it wasn’t supposed to be a RH show but a revamped “Miami Social” of sorts….I watched that show too…and my girls loved NYC Prep but they never did anything with that again either….too much tv, so little time!

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        My favorite was Marysol & her mom Elsa. Elsa was hilarious – to the point on WWHL she stole the show. Elsa stole every scene she was in, as a matter of fact. Who knew she could be like that? Andy loved her too so maybe there will be a future Miami show. Tweet Andy – @bravoandy he might take notice if he gets a ton of tweets. I’ll do it, but we all need to shout out to Andy.

        • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

          I think everyone adored Elsa…except Larsa (if ever there was a phony HW, its her!)

          I will tweet Andy, yes I will. I’m actually scared of Twitter and don’t understand it…but I’ll do it just the same!!!

          • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

            I tweeted! It was my 24th one I think (I’m TuLaLa)…it scares me, I don’t understand how it works, where is what, who is how…anything…but I clicked on Andy’s thingie (woohoo!) and told him I liked the show and give us news about a Season 2…I hope somehow I didn’t end up calling India or China…..eeep!

            • BlueSky_Forever says:

              @TuLaLa I’ll follow you. I’m @BlueSky_Forever There’s a bunch of people on twitter that are here too..I’ll be on twitter later tonight (& here!) while RHONY is on. Hope to “tweet you later!”

              • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

                @BlueSky….I’m pretty sure we’re following one another now….hope this is appropriate 🙂 lol its late, I’m tired and no matter how much I sit and stare at Twitter, waiting for something to happen, I just don’t get it. I feel like Kelly trying to send an e-mail/text to Ramona…gaaah!

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            Laura well we both know why she didnt like Elsa
            its because she got it right about what Larsa is all about
            and teh proof was how Larsa wouldnt let it drop
            I also adore Alexis

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Elsa gets low on money she could do a psychic hotline. I’d call just for the giggles.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          i do it daily to Andy
          oh wait that doesnt sound too good LOL
          i do bring up the show daily with him
          he does love Elsa
          its so obvious from the way he talked about her
          untill bravo says it is canceled ill keep the hope that it is coming back

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        yes i liked ny prep too i wsih they would do another of that with new people

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      I do too but the important thing is we still watched anyway 🙂

  37. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Her description of her show is that it is “her life”…it is “what happens…” and “I put it ALL out there.” Pretending that the main thing people remembered from SWTS never happened is just…weird, not to mention not “what happens.”

    I don’t “correct anyone’s opinion”… not sure what that even means, or how anyone would even do that, LOL. I do disagree with people from time to time, though, and will continue to do so.

    OneMoreInBoston says:
    April 19, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I said “is the social snub”
    You said “It’s not a social snub”

    STOP correcting me.
    You are not an authority here.

    Of course you’ll continue to disagree with me, why should you stop? If I say black you say white, you always have and always will. Contrary just for the sake of argument with me.
    whatevs- you’re too boring to argue with.

  38. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    BaaBee Loves Kitties says:
    April 20, 2011 at 6:53 am

    It wasn’t you Hannah~it was me. They didn’t like what I did.

    OneMoreInBoston says:
    April 20, 2011 at 9:35 am

    BaaBee- Are you talking about me?

    I wasn’t jabbing you, and HD was never, ever mentioned.

    If anything I thought you were jabbing me.

    I couldn’t understand why you would go onto a post that 4-5 people are talking and you would single out just one of them to greet.

    It made me feel terrible, and I wanted to know why you would do that.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Baa Bee I really don’t think I was rude to anyone. I disagreed with them.
      and why didn’t you answer me when I asked why you did that to me?

      I’ve always supported you in your trials and tribulations, I cheered you on when you were going through your drug addiction withdrawals.

      I wonder why you would be rude to me?

      Since you didn’t answer the first time I asked, I suppose you won’t answer this time. So I’ll tell you what I told HD.

      I like you.
      You don’t like me.
      It’s OK.

  39. TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

    Teresa Giudice (from Facebook)
    I guess Simon from the RHONY said of all people *I* should never do a song. Hmm… Singing’s not my thing. Apparently not his either. His single is the WORST SONG EVER (and I have heard some BAD Housewife songs. Trust me.) xx

    I thought it was pretty decent!

    • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

      Uh oh…my children have found me…it must be dinnertime!

      Time to leave cyberspace and act like a mom!

      • error404 says:

        LOL Why? No RealHousewife would ever leave the internet to be with their kids!

        • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

          LOLOL..lolol! Very very true. They only time they want my attention is when I’m on the phone or back in my little mommy cave (my bedroom) on the computer. And at that, its usually for something not important…like being hungry lol Teenagers! (I have 3 – an 18 year old and 15 year old boy/girl twins!)

        • AZ Girl says:

          Yes.. so true… they would say go get your father. HA!

      • Sammysmom says:

        That’s exactly how I feel sometimes. LOL Exactly

    • error404 says:

      What else is she going to do but lash out? One reason why he probably picked her is he knew she’d take the bait. Ter is not the brightest bulb around the make-up mirror.

      • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

        Some people shouldn’t be allowed to take to their computers before stopping and thinking for a minute.

        *Ter is not the brightest bulb around the make-up mirror.*

        And Lord knows that HER make-up mirror probably burns enough electricity to light up three or four third world countries…and even then, she still looks like a hairy man! (omg, did I just really say that??) lol

    • @tweatcyn says:

      LOL, Consider the source. An Ape in a Cocktail Dress.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      its a good song she is just showing signs of Jillousy
      please dont let her record one now about not having her “period” when she is making the sauce

  40. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    I think you could see that Hannah was being treated extremely rudely just now?

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I hesitate to add to the topic, but HD’s “throwing down” offers are kind of off putting too.

      I like the later comments about smarts and getting along.

  41. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Is that not rude Lynn?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I see an argument, a misunderstanding BaaBee. HD and OMIB are both well respected and valued members of the board. What you did was call me out that I allowed my one rule to be broken and I don’t think that I’ve done that.

      People will argue, disagree and have misunderstandings, that isn’t the same thing. With all due respect it is their argument and not something that you should get involved in. I know that you’re trying to protect HD, but I know her better than you do and I know she can hold her own, as can OMIB.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        I am sorry Lynn~I just thought it needed to addressed that I was not talking to OMIB when she started with me about not saying hello to her. I had already been online since early morning & say hello to everyone then.
        It will not happen again. I do protect the people I care for & I know that Hannah can take care of herself but I thought she might need a little moral support.
        Peace Love & Hugs To Us ALL~

  42. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    I guess what I consider rude & others consider rude are very different things. OMIB was just so pleasant to HD just now too I guess?

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      we are all trying to move past it Baabee. I like them both. funny thing is, sometimes the people you fight with the most are the most like you…like holding up a mirror. Or sometimes you get into a fight with someone you actually admire. Happy Easter!!!

  43. Noreen says:

    I hate Jill Zarin! I am stuck at work but I will go home in time to watch NY.
    Have a great night everyone!

    Thanks Lynn for your great blog – it makes my day!

    OMIB – let us know when the miracle birth takes place and what you name your blog baby!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      I have some ideas- but I don’t think they’ll get through Lynn’s profanity filter…We should have a contest!

    • TulipsInSunshine (aka Laura) says:

      @Noreen…I came up with a new name…now you have to too!

      C’mon, you can do it!!!!!!!!


  44. VAgirl says:

    Dear Lynn . Thank you so much for starting this blog. Even though it’s called I Hate Jill Zarin, that’s definitely not what this blog about. It’s kind of like we’re all part of this one big dysfunctional family; happy most of the time, but we have our moments. If everyone, including myself, could just take it down just a notch and think about how some others might take their comments, then maybe some of these hurt feelings may be avoided. Of course, when you have so many different personalities, someone is bound to take something the wrong way. I truly like everyone who regularly posts on this blog. I don’t agree all of the time. Heck, I probably don’t agree most of the time! But I do respect everyone’s opinions and thoughts. There are some really intelligent people on this blog that I admire and who have shared life experiences that are thought-provoking and keep my retired mind active. It’s just disappointing when things get personal and it makes others (lurkers, trollers, and people who really HATE you, Lynn and this blog) clap with glee, I’m sure, when people get caught up in the moment and respond out of hurt and/or anger. That’s why I took myself away from the blog the other day. I felt things were getting close to being a little personal, so I took a little break. I decided to check out the blog today because, bottom line, I enjoy coming here, and I like what you are doing, Lynn. Thanks again.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thank you for that post VAgirl, every word is true. When this many women/men get together on a regular basis and there is snark (mostly funny) flying, sometimes things are misunderstood. Actually, I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more often.

      As you said the smarts in this room are off the charts and I think that’s why we rarely have arguments as people get that most things are said in jest and everyone is respectful.

      Misunderstandings are going to happen, but I know it will get resolved.

      Thanks again! 🙂

    • AZ Girl says:

      Very well said and thoughtful. This a very smart group. It always settles down eventually or I will have tell everyone “O.K. everyone out of the pool” and no one want to get out of the pool 🙂

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      awesome post

  45. Nancy says:

    This should have been a clue…
    Season 2 reunion is on right now and it’s cracking me up. LuAnn is mad at Kelly because she didn’t say hi to her at a party. blah blah blah
    Now Bethenny is asking Kelly about her imaginary boyfriend Max. I have always loved Bethenny. Maybe now Bethenny can buy Kelly a “real” boyfriend? It’s so great knowing what we know now about how all this turned out. Life is sweet. Go Bethenny!

  46. jeepers1941 says:

    Ok, I need to speak my “peace”. So just ignore me! For many days now I have noticed one of the posters gives me the feeling as though they have a chip on they’re shoulder or is upset about something. All are strong minded individuals, with rights to opinions, interpretations, etc. We should all know that rudness is never a good thing, after all we are fans of HW franchises.
    With that said, Lynn has been kind enough to keep this blog up and running for a long time now, so lets let her continue in her style. However, I don’t care about the live chat room, I like THIS BLOG.
    I have on a couple of occasions been chided and or chastised by one of these posters for a conversation I was having with another individual, they took offense and was became enraged. I left the blog for a while. But, I came back because I have as much right as the next person to do that. While I feel Lynn has lost a few posters because of certain actions of others, this is for her to come to grips with. How she handles this is her business.
    If Lynn can remember I wrote her in an e-mail once, be very careful of letting people “speak for you”! So be it. SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! …………..Jeepers1941

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I appreciate the sentiment, I hope everyone here knows that I am not afraid to speak for myself. That said, I do appreciate support and I can’t be here 24/7 so when a troll comes along it does help to have some friends around.

      No one involved in today’s issues were trolls, and no one was trying to hurt me or the blog. It was a misunderstanding and we’re all adults here so I know it will get worked out. With this large group of people, all very strong minded and all extremely intelligent these things are bound to happen. We have to put it behind us and focus on snark where it belongs…on the Housewives!

  47. FlowerPower says:

    TornadoJill is keeping the spin going.

    “There’s no question that I think a lot of fans who questioned their feelings about me have come back to the nest,” Jill tells Zap2it.

    “I think because there were a lot of influences last year and that’s last year,” she adds. “The good thing about TV is people have a short memory and make decisions and such based on what they see in front of them at the time.”

    It’s no wonder she doesn’t like this blog. We see beyond the moment and aren’t so easily fooled.

    • Nancy says:

      It is so much fun watching Jill dig her hole deeper and deeper.
      She is one dumb “lady”. Does she still have PR people? If yes she needs to fire them and hire Bethenny’s. (a joke)
      Keep up the good work Jill because if you ever did change we might all loose this wonderful blog of Lynn’s. Now that would be sad.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      This proves, once again, that Jill thinks she is smarter than viewers. We’re still here Jill, we haven’t forgotten anything. Besides, what a stupid thing to say as I’m watching the re-runs on Bravo. Bravo will never let us forget! 🙂

    • lillybee says:

      Thanks for the insult, Jill. BTW, I have the memory of an elephant.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        not to mention Bravo’s multiple reruns and the internet! lol – Jill forgets what she wants to, we don’t!

  48. Nancy says:

    This is the first blog I’ve ever been a part of so please excuse any stupid questions I may have. If people from this site want to have a live chat room during the episodes why is that a bad thing? Am I not getting something?
    Anyhow, looking forward to RHONY starting in a few hours. Thanks.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Nancy, It’s not a stupid question. I have tried to create a nice comfortable and safe place for people to chat right here. I get that it may not be the perfect chat room but if a few go here and a few go there and a few stay here we aren’t all chatting anymore, everyone will miss something. A lot of people come back here a day or two later to read all the fun, snarky comments. If they’re not here, I lose readers so it is hurting me and my blog.

      That said, I don’t think that HD was trying to harm the blog AT ALL and OMIB didn’t think so either.

      • VAgirl says:

        Thanks for explaining, Lynn. I didn’t think of it as hurting your blog, but I can see where you’re coming from. I do like that you have started the “lets chat” sessions for those who do like to post while watching the show. I’m not that good at it though because while I’m posting, I miss something. I only post during the commercials! LOL.

      • Nancy says:

        Didn’t we have a live chat room here when BEA started up again or am I crazy?

        • nancy says:

          O.K. call me stupid. Is this not a live chat? Again those that know me I am not the computer wiz. Or was that last site Lynn had the live chat? I was so happy when I finally was able to log on but then we all came back here. Soooo confused.LOL I’ve been with Lynn with all her sites and I like this one the best.

          • Golden Girl says:

            I agree @nancy, I thought this was a live chat but then again I am bad with computers and this whole scary computer world lol .

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            our nancys! you are pretty cute! but pretty clueless LOL (oops, sorry -didn’t mean to be rude)

            Definition of Live Chat:


            Definition of a Blog:


          • VAgirl says:

            Nancy. I am definitely not a computer whiz, but a live chat room is much, much faster than this blog. One night kind of late, a few of us were on this blog and were talking about some reruns we were all watching. Someone suggested that we go to chat room so that we could talk to each other in “real time.” About 5 to 10 people (not Lynn) went to the chat room and chatted about the reruns we were watching. It lasted from 1 to 2 hours and that was that. It was never done again after that and was not done to leave anyone out or anything like that. Does that explain it?

            • nancy says:

              Yes, thank you? One question. Is this Lynn’s other blog/chat room where she had all the advertisements?

              • Golden Girl says:

                Ok so is this where I go for tonights episode?

                • nancy says:

                  I believe so. Posters might not talk much during the show but this is where you get all the great comments.

              • VAgirl says:

                No, that was something else.

                • VAgirl says:

                  Sorry Nancy and Golden Girl. I’m making things more confusing. The chat room I was referring to has nothing to do with Lynn’s blog. Lynn does her “let’s chat” right here on this blog. Don’t know if she’s doing it tonight or not. Hope that helps.

                • nancy says:

                  Thanks VAgirl. Glad I have not been missing anything. I have not been there ( if it’s still there ) in months. I always liked it here instead.

                • Golden Girl says:

                  Ok so I’ll just stay put for the episode tonight.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              And you could see things immediately. The blog here, things get inserted and you have to refresh and look for them. At least I do.

  49. AZ Girl says:

    Harvey! Thank you for the wonderful blog. I have always wondered about what veloute. Some TC contestants would refer to it as a sauce and others use veloute in reference to their soup. You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate you taking the time to blog the show. So far I am not enjoying this season as much as last.
    Hope you see this when you get back from having your martini at the local bar.

    • VAgirl says:

      AZ Girl. I’m not enjoying TCM that much either. I think the gal that made the chocolate pudding with the Dunkin Munchkin on top should have gone home, but what do I know? I’m hoping that once the numbers get down and I get to know some of the chefs better, maybe I’ll enjoy it more. Not liking the gal that likes to take over and organize things right now. She’s a little too full of herself. Thanks, Harvey, for your knowledgeable research and tidbits of information.

      • AZ Girl says:

        There is something about the infamous risotto that gets a contestant sent home. You would think they would watch previous shows and know. I believe every contestant that made a risotto has been cut. Risotto=death.

        • VAgirl says:

          So true. I think some chefs take that as a challenge that THEIR risotto will be the one that the “critics” will like.

          • Golden Girl says:

            I love TC and TCM but something about this season seams low budget, or pushed through. I’m not digging the pushy gal either. Thanks Harvey for the recap.

  50. cusi77 says:

    Haaa! Bethenny at the Reunion S2 “It can’ get any worse” -talking about being friends with KKB – YES, Bethenny! In season 3 it went CRAZY worst!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I watched the reunion and was fascinated by the things that were said and where they are today! Oh Bethenny it can and did get much, much worse! Kelly was a fruitcake at that reunion and I guess I just missed it because I dismissed her during the season.

      • cusi77 says:

        Windy_ I was fascinated as well. How Kelly fooled everyone but not Bethenny.

        What a difference in the sitting places at Reunion S3!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      it was sad to see Bethenny still friends with Jill
      knowing how it would all change

  51. cusi77 says:

    BTW- Cusi Loves, loves, loves HD and OMIB and this place is great because both of you are here. Always Intelligent, Direct, Honest. ((((LOve you girls)))) Shaking cyber-hands! And Love to LYNN for being so generous to us!

  52. jeang says:

    You could tell in these old RH NY episodes, that, manufactured friendship or not, Jill and Betheny together filming had a blast. When Betheny stayed with Jill in the sold/rented house, she explained she had jobs in the Hamptons and would normally stay in a rental, probably that Yacht Club, but Jill offered her to stay in her sold/ rented house and was it free? Not exactly…..she had to cook for all Jills family and fab friends. Remember Gloria was there too. My first clue about Jill was when she readily believed that Bethany had something to do with the signage for her pitiful little charity event. Any intelligent person would know this was her alcohol provider that did this and not Betheny. That event supposedly earned 140,000, but not so fast, because the best photoghrapher in the whole world didnt honor his/his exes promise. A check Kellys ass promised, but was unable to cash. Why isnt Jill still pissed about that? Its incredible to watch her high profile fundraisers, remember the Hamptons county fair/flea market charity event the next year versus the Fountainbleau event where Lea Black and husband raised 3-5 million. Manufactured for tv filming or not, I think Betheny really had a good time with Jill and believed her to be a friend and that was what was so pitiful last year when she was treated so badly. It was bad enough for that to happen, but for Jill and Luann and Kelly to continue on after Bethanys dad died and she was in the beginning of high risk pregnancy, was cruel and to think they did this for airtime is close to abusive and criminal. Speaking of criminal, 18 more days till jury selection begins for State of Florida vs Casey Anthony. Pray for justice for little Caylee and the wisdom of the wonderful and fair Judge Belvin Perry.

    • cusi77 says:

      Agree with everything Jean… But

      ” but not so fast, because the best photoghrapher in the whole world”

      According to Kikikuku is the best photographer IN THE UNIVERSE! lol.

    • cusi77 says:

      I will be praying for justice for little Caylee who is in Heaven. Hard, hard to believe Casey did it… God knows everything and I will ask for His light to find the truth.

  53. cusi77 says:

    Cyndy B is a contradiction. She says that she believes that a woman can do everything without a husband and she states that she could not do the twins without her brother… which is? Not a husband but a brother so you can’t do it alone. Period.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      I dont think in normal everyday life we are accountable for every word we utter
      people say things like this all the time who knows if they actually mean it when they say it

  54. Nancy says:

    I can only imagine what would have happened to me if I answered any of the
    Johnny Weir questions!!!!!!!!
    For once I’m glad I kept my big mouth shut!!
    I’m off to Russia in a few days to see the World Figure Skating Championships. Even though I’m Canadian I’ll be cheering on our US skaters.
    Now everyone get along while I’m gone. ha ha

  55. TLM says:

    It has really been enlightening seeing that S2 reunion again. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Jill’s argument with Bethenny over the Creaky Joints event was like a preview of the fight the next season. Bethenny did nothing wrong or with malicious intent, yet that’s where Jill’s mind went, just like Jill said. Jill makes up storylines in her head, just like Jill said.

    Kelly was always crazy.

    Alex did change, but she was nicer when she was more reserved. She is now buckling under the weight of the enormous chip on her shoulder.

    Luann got accused in S2 as in S3 of being condescending and putting on airs as a defense to protect her secrets and problem marriage.

  56. AZ Girl says:

    Everyone Vilzvet up thread got to meet Ramona at a local wine store where she was signing and selling Pinot Grigio. Check out her post. Very cool.

  57. Nancy says:

    Now I know why Jill has become so close to Kelly. She KNOWS Kelly will always be single so she won’t feel hurt like she did with Bethenny, when B met Jason.
    I’m a little surprised that Jill isn’t mad at LuAnn because LuAnn is spending most of her free time with Jack and not her.

    • nancy says:

      Nancy, that maybe true but I also feel Jill likes control. Who better to try and control but the crazy lady? Kelly is an easy target for Jill.

      • cusi77 says:

        Jill knew when Kelly went to Saint John’s that she will kept her informed -you know, JZ wants to be in the know- and I also believe that Jill herself fed Kiki with stories like B put her kids in the newspapers, Alex was channeling the diavle, B trying to kill her, knives in B mouth, Etc. Not a good person to be friends and the worst frenemy a person can have!

        • Nancy says:

          I would love to know what went on in the relationship between Kelly and Bethenny from the very beginning as I do not believe Bethenny is 100% innocent in this whole thing. In some ways I think they are alike and that was the problem. I wish we all knew the ending of this book then so maybe Kelly could have gotten help sooner.

          • OneMoreInBoston says:

            I actually agree with you. I’ve always thought that somehow Bethenny either knowingly or unknowingly triggered Kelly.

            • housewifeaddict says:

              I may be crazy, but I’m sure I read a blog of Sonja’s early last year (before crazy island) that basically said Bethenny pushed and pushed and pushed until Kelly cracked. But I’ve gone back and read EVERY blog and can’t find it – so I wonder if it got yanked. It’s always bugged me – because I can see that happening – but then it’s like Sonja agreed not to tell that side of the story.

            • VAgirl says:

              I’m thinking there is more to the story of Bethenny and Kelly pre RHONYC, too. But I’ll bet we will never hear it from either and if we did, it would be a she said, she said.

              • nancy says:

                I thought it had something to do with Kelly flirting with B.’s boyfriend before HW and Kelly never saying Hi at the dofferent events they both went to. Seems Kelly only responded to the male gender and never any women. Kelly said she had never met B. but B. said she did.

                • vilzvet says:

                  That is exactly what was said by B. And in a separate episode Luann also said that Kelly and she had met before but Kelly pretended not to remember her.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                Bethenny said this from the start
                ske Knew Kelly
                kelly went after Bethennys at the time b/f WHILE Bethenny was there and when Bethenny called her out on it Kelly made a big joke out of it sayin Bethenny was crazy that it never happened BUT this was at a party there were tons of witnesses to it
                Kelly is just nuts

      • lovemamaearth says:

        True. But that didn’t work so well for the guy Kelly beat up. That guy must be thanking his lucky stars to be done with her.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Jill can’t dump LuAnn – then she’d lost a member of her team. Does LuAnn live in the Hamptons or the city now? She probably isn’t around much.

  58. jeang says:

    I am so disappointed because no Jill tonight(per her twitter) means no ridiculous Jill upstream. I just cannot watch this season episodes and also cannot watch OC either because there is nothing left but alex from NY and the rest are penniless overinflated, overbotoxed bitches. I come here and thats enough info for me. Also I think Tamra was ugly to Jeanna from day one because she was bragging she was going to outsell Jeanna in the Coto….How is that going for you Trampra?

  59. boston02127 says:

    Dear Lynn, HD and OMIB,

    I feel as thou I need to speak up about the live chat room. It’s all my fault. We were on the blog on quiet night and someone suggested it would be nice if we could live chat. I posted that I know a site called http://www.whatever.com (not really the name).
    My friends and I use this site for homework, etc.

    Never in a million years did I think that it would hurt or take away from the blog. Lynn, I think you know me much better than that and know that I respect you and heart you and your blog and would never take from the blog or do anything to hurt you or anyone else on this blog.

    I am sorry to the three of you for starting all this trouble. I truly never thought of the repercussions that would lie ahead. This was my fault for posting the site and I am so sorry.

    • VAgirl says:

      Boston. I was there, too and it was completely innocent. Please don’t feel bad about it or worry about it. Everyone knows you, nor HD, nor OMIB would ever do anything to harm Lynn or her blog.

    • quincyil says:

      It was an innocent suggestion, Boston…

      No one here wants you to feel badly.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      don’t be silly!
      Everyone knows you meant no harm.
      no worries!

    • lovemamaearth says:

      What a nice thing to do to clarify what happened.

      And regardless of disagreements and whatever, it’s a great group here & great leaders. Yay for Lynn.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Don’t you worry it is all good. No one was harmed.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Boston, please don’t give it another thought, it’s not your fault, it is no one’s fault. No one had any bad intentions, I know that for a fact! Love you Kiddo you know that! xoxo

  60. quincyil says:

    Where is Simon’s video? It was due on April 21. I want to blog it, but I also want to watch RHNYC. I also have to sleep and go to work early….

    Why would Bravo have to wait all day?

  61. twoile says:

    Thank you Lynn 4 a gr8 blog:0)

  62. Okie Folkie says:

    I have been an avid reader of this blog nearly as long as its been here. It has become my fave! (THANKS Lynn! & Qunicy & everyone who contributes!)

    This is my 1st time posting. After always coming to this site 1st to see what Lynn & Co. are saying, then laughin m’butt off….well…..I thought it was time to come outta the ‘Ether’ and say a proper “HEY”

    I am shocked, I tell ya, Shocked I am at Sonja’s behavior thus far.
    I’m wondering if, since she did have a prior relationship with LuLu, (& we all know how LuLu feels w/regards to Alex) possibly in the Off Season(?) L & J put ‘a bug in her ear’ regarding Silex? I can picture Lu, Shrill and Sonshit at the 4 Seasons over ‘Luncheon’ telling Sonja they should all gang up on Alex.
    I dont understand the ‘reasoning’ (if those 3 could possibly grasp that concept) behind such ‘reasoning’. As Silex has been the Fan Fave since last season. Very rightly so. They sound like such good Down to Earth Home Folk.
    Maybe they all figured w/o Bethenny there any longer, things might go back to the way the were before B. shed the brighter light on LuLu & Jill behaviors?

    I had HIGH HOPES for Sonja up til 2 weeks ago. I LOVE the painting of her, hahahah! I guess Brian couldnt take her from 80 to 40, after all, and for that I am so happy!
    I did wonder, when Sonja was awaiting her guests at the art party, she was looking at the Art & speaking with Brian. Then BOOM a muuuuuch younger woman came running between them, and screeching something then hugging Brian. Made me go hhhmmmmmm???? Also, WHY did Sonja need to carry her purse on the arm, in her own home? hmmmm?

    Ya’ll never fail to put a grin on my face & lotsa LOLs to boot!
    I hope I havent repeated what has been said, I’m sorry, I havent read the comments yet! But thats what I’ma gunna do now!

    Thanks for all of the fun you all have provided me for long time!

    Looking forward to this evenings show! And the Blog to follow! 😉

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Like your voice! I have thought that Jill would have LuAnn “recruit” Sonja for her team.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      WELCOME! So glad you posted. Stay tuned, I’m going to post a new RHONY preview blog in just a minute or two, then we can all chat about the show there.

      Thanks for being here!!!


  63. WindyCityWondering says:

    Sonja is a bitch – she is definately not classy, she doesn’t care that she hurt anyone’s feelings and I hope Alex puts her in her place!
    And I love how often Bravo is doing the Bethenny book signing promo! Suck it Jill!!

  64. housewifeaddict says:

    Does anyone else find it strange that Sonja badly needs her hair done in this episode, yet she’s supposed to be rich. It looks like she’s at least a few months from her last color. And I’m sure she’s got a lot of gray too. Weird.

  65. housewifeaddict says:

    Kelly just called Ramona’s friend Pocohontas. They even wrote it out on the screen. What in the world was she thinking????

  66. VAgirl says:

    I just realized something. Alex actually went to something without Simon! I don’t think I’ve seen but one other time (at Jennifer Gilbert’s house last season.)

  67. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Evening to all!
    First, thanks for all the advice today. I am taking the job search to hospitals and to insurance companies. We have some biggies out here and I am going to expand the search to administrative and HR positions as well. Apparently, the health insurance angle is that they use coders to verify before paying. Who Knew? But you guys are just the best. This little hating blog sure has a lot of luvin supportive people on it!

    Second, Anyone else see the previews they are running for tonights show? I am just losing my stuffing watching Sonya in the big black fur Dr. Zhivago hat telling Alex she is not going to “deal with her husband” I just want to get in there and go “Da, She is not deeeelink darlink” in my best Russian accent. For whatever reason this is maybe the funniest thing I have seen all week. I can’t seem to get the old Bullwinkle cartoons out of my head. Alex and Simon are like “Moose and Skwurl”, and Countess and Sonya are now Boris and Natasha “Ve Vill keel de Mose and Skwurl”.
    And yes, it has been a long day. 🙂

  68. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    I am sorry Lynn~I just thought it needed to addressed that I was not talking to OMIB when she started with me about not saying hello to her. I had already been online since early morning & say hello to everyone then.
    It will not happen again. I do protect the people I care for & I know that Hannah can take care of herself but I thought she might need a little moral support.
    Peace Love & Hugs To Us ALL~

  69. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good Morning Everyone~

  70. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Morning BaaBee

  71. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    this kills me

  72. L2Day says:

    Jill Zarin puts her nasty little dog before her daughter. Most people will not have a pet in the home unless it was friendly with the entire family. If ginger snapped at my daughter, I’d throw the lazy-nasty-spoiled-evil-ugly troll down to the New York sewage with the rest of the subway rats. All dogs lick their own butts…and you take someone like Jill Zarin who turns around kiss the dog in the mouth and let the dog lick her nose. That’s just nasty. Bravo shouldn’t show this footage – it’s enough to turn the stomach.

  73. Jackson Presnell says:

    I hate Jill Zarin is all I hear coming from everyone, but why? I have yet to actually hear a real reason for disliking her…

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