IHJZ Real Housewives of NYC

Real Housewives of New York

This is actually pretty fun without Jill Zarin, I could get used to this…yeah baby! 

As Luann explained at the last reunion, from season to season, there always seems to be someone who doesn’t want to film with someone else.  Kelly Bensimon refuses to film with Ramona apparently because she was mean to her on St. John last season.  I know what you’re thinking, when did that happen?  Sure Ramona called Kelly stupid, but she is.   What’s the problem?  Kelly said that all four of the women who went to St. John were bullying her, now apparently it was just Bethenny and Ramona. 

I think Ramona is getting the cold shoulder from Kelly because Ramona was apparently the hostess on Scary Island, the really funny part is that Ramona has no clue that Kelly is upset with her.  Hello Kelly!  Even when you ignore someone, they don’t notice!  Priceless! 

Luann was insulted by Ramona, just because Ramona was trying to ask her about her living arrangements with the kids.  Luann’s city social calendar cannot be ignored, but her kids can and so she spends 4 or 5 days with the kids in The Hamptons and 2-3 days a week in her apartment (which we haven’t seen yet) so that she can record more crappy music and sleep with her boyfriend in peace.  Ramona simply asked if she was a “Weekend mom” and since Ramona didn’t listen to Luann’s schedule she still doesn’t know Luann’s schedule.  If Ramona wasn’t listening to Luann, Luann certainly wasn’t listening to Kelly when she arrived at her home.

 Luann completely missed Kelly’s major insult to Native American’s by slamming her palm repeatedly on her mouth while howling like a 3-year old playing cowboys and Indians.  But Luann was insulted by Ramona’s questions and not Kelly’s idiotic behavior?  I don’t know how anyone could excuse Kelly’s behavior, being immature and a complete moron doesn’t mean she can insult an entire race of people. 

Kelly brought with her to Luann’s some of her jewelry and the only interesting part of that entire scene was the other housewives looking at each other and giggling behind Kelly’s back.  Oh, and those were her supposed friends. 

Sonja and Cindy meet downtown for a little typical housewife shopping and lunch.  Unfortunately Cindy’s fake teeth fell  out as she was drunk and popping pistachio nuts,  she refused to have lunch with Sonja in case anyone saw her like that.  Honestly, her million dollar teeth didn’t look a whole lot different from her natural teeth.  Sonja was clearly annoyed that their shopping/lunch date turned out to be an emergency dental situation and pouted that she’d have to eat lunch alone while Cindy laughed.  Sonja explains that she has a friend who is missing half of her teeth and still finishes off a steak.  We know Sonja, we met your psychic last season.  Wow!  I can see Sonja and Cindy becoming really good friends. I can’t even figure out why they arranged this shopping/lunch date. 

Sonja has a plan to have Kelly and her daughters over to have a little toaster oven cooking class, Sonja thinks it is a good idea to invite Ramona to try to rebuild the relationship.  A complete waste of time since obviously Kelly has no interest in having a relationship with Ramona and Ramona barely notices that the brain dead Kelly isn’t speaking to her.

Sonja and Kelly go riding, English style on what Kelly refers to as “High end” horses, they are actually performance/competition horses.  Sonja stupidly tells us that she used to ride all the time, “bareback” yet when she mounts the horse it is apparent immediately that she has no idea what she’s doing.  First of all, I highly doubt she ever rode a horse bareback, she may have ridden western style but English style is very different.  It was really nice to see someone besides Kelly fall off the horse but how funny was it when Kelly interviewed that Sonja’s fall was “really really bad”, yet  Kelly has had many worse falls as we’ve all seen in some really classic you-tube videos.

Sonja calls Kelly “brain dead” taking the lead from Ramona, and the rest of the viewing public and reminds Kelly that she is going to have the cooking party for Kelly and her girls.  Sonja had confided in Cindy but decided to keep it a secret from Kelly and surprise her.  It worked out so well in the past on this show, Sonja must be a genius.

The ladies spent most of this episode in the Hamptons, Luann arranged for all the ladies to bring their dogs for a charity dog walk event, Alex couldn’t come because her cat wouldn’t stand still long enough to put a leash on it.  Note to Alex:  If you’re going to be a Real Housewife of New York, you’re going to have to get a dog. 

Cindy can’t hold in her very first housewife secret, besides she’s brunette and Sonja’s blonde so all bets are off.  Cindy won’t tell Kelly why but tells Kelly not to bring her children to the cooking party at Sonja’s, Kelly is so curious she can’t stand it, so she threatens to tell Sonja what Cindy told her if she doesn’t spill the beans.  Cindy finally reveals the whole thing, Sonja plans on inviting Ramona to try to get Kelly and Ramona to make up. 

Cindy’s playing with fire here especially since Jill, the leader of the Brunette’s is out of town, she’s already made an enemy of Sonja, on the blonde team.  It is funny how Cindy and Ramona seem to have been friends for a long time and suddenly now Cindy learns things about Ramona that she doesn’t like?   Don’t worry about Cindy, next week’s previews show that Sonja is going to set her straight by cluing her in on the pecking order complete with charts and graphs. 

Alex behaved herself tonight and seemed to get along fine with everyone, Luann invited Alex to her home, Cindy invited Alex to her non-birthday party where her husband and son’s seemed to enjoy the 4-wheeling on the ATV’s , I guess in the Hamptons 4-wheeling is safer than horseback riding, silly me, I would have put Alex’s boys on the horses. 

So Kelly offended Native Americans, Sonja confided in Cindy and got burned, Ramona flipped out because Cindy forgot to order her wine, Cindy lost her two front teeth, maybe she’ll get two more for Christmas, Luann was a pretentious snob and Alex attended some nice parties and enjoyed herself.  Jill free and a great episode.  When the previews came on and Jill’s voice screeched out of the TV, I literally jumped scaring my poor dog who had been sleeping so peacefully.  Damn Jill Zarin! 

Jill told her fans (all three of them) that she returns at the end of the next episode so we’ll have one more almost Jill-free episode to enjoy before she is back to annoy everyone full time.  She is going to be so behind on the gossip and manipulating she’ll have to work double time to catch up but I have confidence in Jill’s skill, she’ll be back in the swing of things in no time.

Until Next Time…..

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211 Responses to IHJZ Real Housewives of NYC

  1. kotagirl29 says:

    There is no excuse for why Doorstop didn’t just call Sonja and tell her she had to reschedule. I mean really. It is not like she broke them that morning on her way to meet Sonja, it was at least the night before. Did Doorstop’s phone get shut off? Just plain RUDE.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Doorstop HA!

    • BlueEyedGirl says:

      The most annoying part about it was that she even said “yeah” to going to lunch after up until they would actually leave to go to lunch.. I would’ve been upset that she lied to me when I got there too! Even if she hadn’t called her the night before about it the least she could’ve done is let her know right away so she would have the choice to shorten the shopping trip or call someone else to meet her there or something!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Exactly! If Sonia suffers from low blood sugar, like I do, she was probably ready to cut a bitch (as Bethenny would say) after realizing she planned her morning meal around this lunch only to be canceled. Also, how is it that Cindy will let millions of viewers on national television see her teeth like this (I couldn’t tell the difference.), but won’t go to a restaurant? Crazy.

  2. Melinda says:

    Ha! I don’t miss Jill Zarin at all!!! How funny is that?!

    Sonja is starting to irritate me with her “I-am-so-great” attitude…..she better ratchet it down a notch or I will start the I Hate Sonja Morgan blog (IHSM) 😉

    I am really liking Cindy although she is gonna get herself in a world of trouble by meddling in with these women! hahah….lord help her.

    Ramona sure stepped all in it this week…..good grief…..love her but she is sometimes a train wreck. She was out of line in my humble opinion as to what she was saying to LuAnn….if she really cared she didn’t word it right at all.

    Great recap as always!


    • ramonacoaster says:

      I didn’t get why Sonja dissed Quogue. It’s only 25 min from Southampton. Unless it was meant as a stealth insult to Cindy. I’m sure if Sonja was invited to one of those beach houses on Dune Rd. she would’ve been the first one there. And what was that comment about making a trip to Tribeca being such a trek to her? There’s lots of great shopping, dining and nightlife. It was good enough for John Jr. and his wife Caroline. Sonja really feels this new girl should bend over and kiss her ass but Cindy doesn’t look like the ass-kissing type. She is however the shit-stirrer type which is always entertaining to watch.

  3. Rhetorica says:

    Hi everyone! I’m back for a day or two; missed talking with all of you. FINALLY have epilepsy “camp” scheduled with my daughter this week so hopefully I’ll be able to post while there. I haven’t watched any shows; I keep up by reading Lynn & Q.

    I STILL HATE JILL ZARIN, but love this site & interacting.

  4. tiredofthis says:

    Noooo, Jill stay away. I don’t like Cindy already. She just rubs me the wrong way.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      There is something very grating about Doorstop’s personality. I don’t lik her either.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      She’s very NJHW. I think they made a mistake when casting her.

    • BlueEyedGirl says:

      I don’t like Cindy either.. Her blog on Bravotv rubbed me the wrong way as well.. I wouldn’t like to watch her on any show.. I don’t think there is any that she would be good on..

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Agreed. It also bugs me that her mouth is always open. Yuck!

        • Sammysmom says:

          Her and her brother have the exact same mouth. It looks that way to me anyway

          • krone says:

            I’m joining the anti-Barstool group also. She’s a mouth breather which leaves her looking kinda dumb and she’s already made a calcutated decision to run with the big dogs,– too bad she miscalculated which group IS the “big dogs”

            • ihearttalavera says:

              YES!!! She looks like her brother with a wig. If they weren’t filmed together in the same scenes, there may be a Latoya/Michael similar rumor…

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            well they are related so that shouldnt be an issue the fact that she is boring beyond belief should be though

        • Mookies1mom says:

          People that do that make me want to take my hand, put it on their chin and close their mouth.

          • kotagirl29 says:

            And I would pinch their nose closed.

            Just kidding. . . . . well maybe.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Ha! Me too!!! You would think after seeing yourself on tv in unflattering poses, you would avoid making the same faces. This is her first season though, so maybe she will go all “mouth closed” on us next season. I can understand though, with the behavior of these women, how her mouth might stay open a bit longer than usual. I am absolutely dreading Jill’s return and listening to Cindy and Jill’s unbearable accents while in the same room. I will say though, I think I actually miss hating Jill. I felt much calmer while watching the last few Jill-less episodes, but not quite happy like I do while watching Bethenny’s show. Hmmm.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            perhaps she suffers from alergies and this is the only way she can breathe
            that happens to me during a few months out of the year

            ps if anyone ever put theier hand on MY chin to close my mouth
            they had better be ready to be slapped silly

    • vahousewife says:

      Cindy DEFINTELY rubs me the wrong way! She is not a good fit for the rest of the girls. I think she and her brother were twins of the same sex. which sex, i’m not sure of…..Her brother is such a whiner and a woman. Cindy thinks she is too “whatever” and I can’t understand her when she talks. She garbles things….

      • Amanda says:

        Agreed! Why did they cast her? Ugh! Who does the casting for this show? Should have kept the lurch Kelly around either….by the way, so tired of them saying scary island, the only thing scary on that beautiful island was deranged Kelly!

  5. Jezzibel says:

    I know other commentors and bloggers have speculated about Ramona going through Menapause(sp??) is anyonelse thinking that might be whats going on with her?

    • neroes says:

      If she is going through menopause her hormone levels are fluctuating and that has a lot of symptoms other than hot flashes. Depression, anxiety, and irritability are just some of them.

      • floridagirl88 says:

        Puleeze, Ramona is just a bitch, our favorite bitch.

      • kotagirl29 says:

        I think that Ramotional is definitely menopausal. She also peed on a stick and they mention having to tell Mario in the previews. I have read that certain home pregnancy tests can give a false positive if one is menopausal. I think that’s going on.

    • Bella Bay Beach Girl says:

      I think Ramona, as a child who survived domestic abuse, was in a panic mode, and dealt with it the only way she knows how to. Adult children who have lived their lives a certain way, go on self destruct mode when they feel stressed and I think that is what happened to Ramona. She admitedly has not dealt entirely with her friend’s passing, and was trying to make sense of it while self medicating. She knew she put her foot in her mouth at the wedding and was nervous anticipating Cindy’s event and having to deal with uncomfortable issues. So at that point she was dealing with too many emotions for her to handle and she imploded a bit. I still love Ramona, but coming from a similar background I have found myself in similar situations and unfortunately, they never turn out pretty : (

    • klmh says:

      I really don’t think there is a question. Problems with perspiration, jumping up and fanning herself during the reunion, the red flash on her face, well Im here to tell ya that’s what I did. Her mood swings are more severe though. Well, I think they are. 🙂

      • Jezzibel says:

        Her emotional over reaction towards cigar-gate is very un-Ramona like or what we have come to expect from Ramona when she steps in it. Considering how un-flappable she was on WWHL with Jill Zarin( and that hidious Gloria Estefan 80’s get up she was wearing) versus what we are seeing her act and react, to situation that were recorded months ago…..Is she the right age to be going through Menopause?

        • klmh says:

          Yes, and I have a surprise for you. Menopause can last for years. I started at 50, without my uterus but with ovaries, taking estrogen. Went off and on for years. I am now trying to get off of it, taking a small dose every other day, but the hot flashes and mood swings haven’t vanished. Some people don’t have them badly though. I am now 61 1/2.
          Sorry for the bad news… 😦

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        well thatscause you are watching her do it on tv if you had filmed yourself when you went thru it ,it might look the same

    • Mookies1mom says:

      I had thought that might be a possibility. I mean Ramona has never been shy about saying exactly what she thinks add in some stress and fluctuating hormones. Plus, if I had to film with anyone in this crew (except Alex) I would drink too!

    • Sammysmom says:

      I have been saying it for awhile now. I think she may have gotten her hormones in check but it may have been after filming the show. I hope not, for her sake. I am a Ramona lover

      • vahousewife says:

        I love Ramona, too, Sammy’s mom. She often says the wrong thing but I think it’s because she is ADHD, like me. People diagnosed with this condition actually verbalize what other people are thinking to themselves…

        Ramona has a big heart, raised a lovely daughter and truly cares about others. I think someone should kidnap that fag hag, Kelly and imprison her on Scary Island for saying she doesn’t want her two brats around Ramona. I detest Kelly!

  6. TLM says:

    I must have fallen asleep through most of the show. All I remember from this recap is Sonja insisting on eating lunch when her friend needed to get to a dentist, and Sonja falling off a horse.

    I’m barely even paying attention to this series anymore.

    I don’t get the hatred for Cindy, who to me seems very unpretentious and doesn’t seem to go into things with an agenda like the others do.

    • Kukulet says:

      I’m actually liking Cindy…she’s very down to earth. I especially love her facial expressions when she reacts to the rudeness of the other HW’s…she doesn’t hesitate with the “Are you kidding me?” looks.

      I find it easier to relate to Alex, Cindy, and Ramona, who actually work for a living. LuAnn, Jill, Kelly – I dislike their never ending attitudes that they are overburdened with responsibilities and the ones who actually do work just can’t fathom what it is like to be them. It’s really off putting.

      • NJ Bev says:

        thank you.
        think about it-if this blog existed in season 1 of HWONY
        we would have ripped Bethenny to shreds. Serious Shreds.
        I think Cindy is funny. so hate me. I think she will grow
        on a lot of people. Most of us don’t like change-she’s new
        and being a hell of a lot more honest about herself than
        Sonya was.
        There was a lot to dislike about a lot of the woman on this
        show last year—Sonya slipped right under the radar-
        I would just like to say , give the new girl a chance, just
        cuz Jill isn’t around to hate, doesn’t mean you have to hate
        on the only other “unknown entity”
        let’s give her a few episodes to make an a@@hole out of
        herself. until then ……

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          some might have ripped BethennyI never would have
          she was teh reason i kept watching
          I thought her leaving would be the final nail in the coffin but i was wrong
          it was the addition of Cindy and the changing of Sonja

        • kotagirl29 says:

          I know I wouldn’t have ripped Bethenny, it would have been Alex and Simon. I would have also been harder on LuMann and even Ramona. Jill would have gotten off easy (at least with me) the first two seasons. But Bethenny has been my favorite since the beginning. I always thought she was funny, quick-witted, and savvy.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        and yet she is just as rude as the rest of them but doesnt see it

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      1.she talks badly about people behind thier backs (despite being alll smiles and lightness to their faces)
      2.she is dull as dishwater
      3.she doesnt know anyone on the show well enough to say some of the things she says

      I dont see why she would make a lunch date with Sonja after that cocktail party where she is saying in her talking head segment that she cant get a word in edgewise nothing abourt this season makes sense

  7. jeepers1941 says:

    Thank the good Lord, I never had them…….I am was bad enough with out any help that way…………I hope my puter has settled down now and starts posting where it should……….geeeehs

  8. BlueEyedGirl says:

    Am I the only one who burst out with laughter at Sonja falling off the horse? I was so happy Bravo did it right before a commercial so I could see it twice when the show came back on..

    • HD says:

      Girl! I’m glad you said it! I could not help it. I figured she was not going to be seriously injured or we would have heard about it already. That was so funny to me. What made it even funnier was that Kelly kept trying to tell her to hold the reigns tighter and she was just doing what she wanted to do. LOL! I am cracking up!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Also hysterical how quickly she jumped up and then wanted to talk about something else like we wouldn’t notice that it happened. The whole thing was very comical.

      And what about the way Sonia acted at Luann’s about the email invite to Cindy’s party? I think she was hopped up on caffeine or meds when they filmed this episode.

  9. jeepers1941 says:

    I didn’t watch it, went to bed early cause of drs appointment

  10. floridagirl88 says:

    I’m still on the fence about Cindy. I totally would have ditched lunch and gone to the dentist, however, I would have called Sonja to cancel or reschedule lunch.

    Did anyone else hear Sonja say that she was driven all the way downtown by her driver BOY! WTF?! She should just keep on talking until she has insulted all the viewers. This season’s Sonja is unlikeable (except when she went sideways off that horse LOL). And we are clearly in an alternate universe when Kelly comes off looking like the sane one this episode (good horse skills, refusing to be baited by Ramona around her kids) except when she dropped and did a sand angel.

    Did LuMann buy her pied a terre or is she shacking up with Jacques when she’s in the city? And why was Alex wearing fur?

    It is now clear why Bravo delayed the start of S4. These women have nothing useful to talk about.

    • klmh says:

      I agree with you about Kelly, but I thought the sand angel thing was to change the subject and end that particular conversation. She succeeded!

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Kelly was bound and determined to not have that conversation and decided that making sand angels would get her out of it. It did and whatever Sonja was saying Kelly had turned down the volume until Sonja became white noise. I still don’t think she is mentally fit enough to be on the show and that Bravo should have not brought her back.

        • HD says:

          I hate to say this out of my mouth and I can’t even believe that I am going to type it, but Kelly does appear sane this season (so far). I can’t believe it. Also and maybe it is just me, but I think her face has never looked better. She looks so pretty. (I know. What am I thinking?!)

          • Mookies1mom says:

            Let me feel your forehead. (Like mom’s do to see if you have a fever.)

          • ramonacoaster says:

            Kelly seemed sane right up until the sandangels part.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              I agree. It appears she had her meds adjusted after last season. Or maybe she learned a lesson and isn’t drinking while on meds. Either way, her main issue seems to be lack of intelligence and inability to hold a conversation. The speed dating weirdness killed me.

            • Sammysmom says:

              Maybe it’s because I am a ditz. ((I know I am)) Have been my whole life. I hate Kelly for giving us goofballs a bad rap.But, I thought sand angels was cool and something I would do. The difference is, kelly is ditzy and doesn’t know it.

              • krone says:

                What about the whoo whoo Native American war whoops? I thought that was pretty whackadoodle; especially when presenting the t-shirt to our fave “royalty” Discount Lulu.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                You’re right. The difference is being a ditz and trying to pretend you’re the normal one. I have many ditzy friends. It is fun, and adorable. They, however, embrace and fess up to their ditzy ways. I think Kelly’s jealousy of Bethenny is what made me turn on her in the beginning. I feel like Bethenny really tried to be her friend, but Kelly was mean and didn’t give her a chance.

              • Mookies1mom says:

                Well, at least you can string two sentences together and remain coherent! Now if you start talking about turning everything down to a two then we’ll start to worry. 😉

          • klmh says:

            I think its neat that you can look at the situation and see what is there, not just hang on to past events. But, it still might bite you in the ass next episode! 🙂

        • klmh says:

          I agree, but she seems to have been able to see the problems and get some help with meds. jmo

          • Kukulet says:

            Kelly does seem much calmer this season…not so manic and unstable. I just wish she wasn’t so dumb. Her inanity is boring after a while.

            I still don’t think Bravo should have brought her back. Jill and LuAnn have unpleasant personalities, but Kelly is mentally unstable. Her breakdown might have fueled ratings, but Bravo is irresponsible.

            • klmh says:

              Kelly doesn’t remind me of a dumb person at all. I think she has a few wires crossed though. jmo.
              I wonder if there was a clause in her contract that required her to seek help. The other housewives on the island saw it as well as the production crew. I don’t know, but Im glad she if feeling better and seems happier with her life.

            • Mookies1mom says:

              Absolutely agree with you!

            • lovemamaearth says:

              I agree, Kelly shouldn’t be back this season, or ever.

              And she needs to have a “victim” just like Jill does. Jill’s has become Alex instead of B & Kelly’s is Ramona instead of B.

            • klmh says:

              It might be that Bravo demanded meds and or counseling. She might be stable now because of their insistence, but I don’t know.
              Wouldn’t it be great if Bravo really helped one of their housewives!
              Only time will tell.

            • vahousewife says:

              i agree with you. Bravo was irresponsible in bringing that mental case back. She is so strange! I feel sorry for her children….

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Kelly did make a mockery of Native Americans though. And she did have lots of Kellyisms to say.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I see issues with Cindy:
      She should have called and cancelled shopping and lunch with Sonja if her bottom tooth veneers were so important.
      I didn’t like that she told Kelly about Sonja’s plan behind Sonja’s back (that’s between Kelly and Sonja, let the chips fall where they may).
      I didn’t like it when Cindy brought up Kelly’s party in front of Ramona at the horse farm party.
      The last two things could be considered serious poo stirring and Cindy knew that and did them anyway. Those remind me of something Jill would do.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Ramona wasnt baiting she was highly insulted
      these peopel were excluding her from a get together and discussing it as she sat there
      you dont have to write or read a book like Lulus to know just how rude that was
      one of those morons should have just changed the subject before it got out of hand
      this year almost everyone on the show has become unlikeable
      Ramona if she is menopausal cant help herself
      And Alex has every right to be angry
      what is the other womens excuses
      these are supposed to be Adults here but its like they all need to act like spoiled bratty kids
      and funny enough thier kids dont act nearly as bad

    • error404 says:

      S3 Kelly was “sane” right up until “scary island”. Just wait for it. And no, Bravo had no business hiring an unstable woman with mental health issues, med rider to contract or not. If she goes off them and suddenly drowns Ginger in the bathtub or something, what are they going to do, sue her for breech of contract? Idiots.

  11. susan says:

    This show has become a major bore. I read this blog instead. I seriously doubt Morocco will improve the situation.

    And question: Why is it these women all over the US think they can sing, design clothing or be in fashion shows? Come on Bravo; be a little more creative please!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i dont think you can blame Braov on what these idiots do

      • error404 says:


        Ok, Bravo doesn’t force them to drink.

        They scour the country to select 5 women with heavy drinking problems, then strongly persuade them to get together for drinks in bars so that it will be “better tv”. But nooooo… Bravo has absolutely nothing at all to do with them being alcoholics.

  12. fort lauderdale gay says:

    a quick note to the jewelry impaired cast members: Just because it will fit around your neck doesn’t mean it’s a necklace. After all, a noose fits that description. Gold and silver jewelry can be worn together, but not when the silver part is duct tape.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Ha! I missed this. Was it Kelly’s necklace at Luann’s party?

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        It was LuAnn’s necklace at LuAnn’s party. I’ve looked at it several times now and it looks like a three strand gold necklace that she was having trouble getting to nest properly. Her engineer son, or perhaps Kelly (the Owlgate jewelry designer) must have tried to fix it. I swear it was duct tape. If not, it sure looked like it. But honestly, LuAnn has the worst taste in jewelry of any modern woman on the planet.

        • fort lauderdale gay says:

          CORRECTION: It was the necklace LuAnn was wearing during the talking head portion of the party at LuAnn’s. It’s 4 strands of gold (3 yellow, 1 rose gold), held together with duct tape on each side.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I agree – I don’t get Luann’s jewelry. I was positive she would be announcing her own line soon because it’s just too random and odd, and never seems to match her outfits.

            Thanks for the answer. I was kind of fading in and out this week, so I missed some things. I am going to have to check it out when I watch the episode again. Fun!

            • Kukulet says:

              I don’t get LuAnn’s jewelry either. Okay, she’s Native American. So am I. I’m proud of my heritage, but I don’t see the need to plan my accessory wardrobe around it.

              Pocahontas you aren’t, LuAnn. There’s a lot of variety in jewelry out there. Give it a try.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                Exactly. I get that it’s a tribute to her heritage, but it really makes no sense. Oy.

              • fort lauderdale gay says:

                Let’s hope Kelly doesn’t come out with eau de toilette line. I read the wonderful description you wrote about her perfume.

            • fort lauderdale gay says:

              I hope she doesn’t come out with a line of jewelry. Popcorn on a string just doesn’t qualify. Not even for earth day.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          But it’s probably designer duct tape! She wouldn’t just get her duct tape at the hardware store like everyone else.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            hardware stores ????

            i dont think there are any left in this country
            now its Home Depot or nothing pretty much

            now i live in a teeny tiny town and we dont have any here either

            • kotagirl29 says:

              Really? I live in a pretty small town and we have Ace Hardware. We have Home Depot and Lowes in the next bigger towns, but they also have Ace Hardware.

  13. Mookies1mom says:

    This last episode had me so frustrated that I almost turned it off and thought about walking away from it. If Jill had been on for more than just a brief glimpse I think I would have. As it was I was afraid my eyes were going to stick in the back of my head from rolling them so much. May be it’s my frame of mind right now, add in some serious lack of sleep issues and well it’s not pretty. I think the only reason I haven’t walked away completely is I like Alex. She seems like someone you could sit and chat with. I like Ramona but she is on the Ramonacoaster right now, I’ll wait for her to get off. I’m just sick of these so called “ladies” thinking they are soooo much better than everyone else. Jill, Luann and Sonja make me want to be sick. I wish I knew where they get this attitude that they are so much better than everyone else. Having money or some bullshit title does not make you better as we have all seen. If it was me in the middle of all them, I would just walk out and never look back. I might have a few choice words for each of the before doing so. Bethenny got out while the getting was good.

  14. VAgirl says:

    Lynn, this is for you from Jill’s Bravo Blog Comments:

    Submitted by B.L.R. on April 29, 2011.
    In reference to Lynn from Chicago, perhaps YOU could teach HER (by YOUR actions and words) how to let go of her psychotic grudge against you. That would be a miracle and quite frankly, a real change (for the good) might actually come about.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      The miracle part is Jill being nice for the good of others. Yes, Jill we’ve been waiting to see the new Jill.

    • quincyil says:

      I’m sure bravo will let that one stand.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Make sure to let me know when the new Jill arrives. The retread posing as a new Jill isn’t working for me.

  15. cabbie413 says:

    with all the silence from the current housewives surrounding Kelly’s insanity on the island, I wonder if Bethenny would tell us what REALLY happened there. She has nothing to lose or gain by telling the “behind the scenes ” of it all. maybe i’ll tweet her and ask her to write a book about what goes on behind the scenes of housewives ..

    actually now that i think about it, she’d never do it, especially since she has a show on Bravo and they are already filming season 3!

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Maybe we’ll get to see some behind the scenes of her talk show getting started. Maybe some of her going to Nate’s studio.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I think Kelly and Bethenny are pretty much in denial about each other’s existence at this point. Bethenny’s life is so much better at this point, and you know Kelly is even more jealous of her now that she is off the show. B doesn’t have to deal with these crazy women anymore, but still gets to be on tv. You can tell how irritated Kelly is when Jill mentions B.

      I still think about the conversations last season that Kelly started about whether or not Bethenny was a real chef, cook, etc. At one point Kelly said B wasn’t a chef because she had never eaten her food. Um, what???

      • Stella says:

        You’re totally right about Kelly’s jealousy of Bethenny. What about the other week when Kelly said she wanted to get married and have another baby. Of course that is not an abnormal desire but since Kelly has copied everything Bethenny, i.e. Kelly’s drink and saying she might get her own show. It was just one more comment that made me think she wants Bethenny’s life.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Absolutely. I actually feel kind of sorry for her. She seems very lonely.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I also think B really tried to be friends with Kelly, but she was always jealous from her from the very beginning. So I would imagine now that B outshines all of the other housewives, it’s just easier for Kelly to pretend she doesn’t even exist. Like she pretends her freak out during Ramona’s trip didn’t happen. White noise. Al Sharpton!!!

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I meant “of her.” Getting tired. I’m on the west coast, so it’s only around 11pm, but still waaay past my bed time.

            Last thing I wanted to mention about K. Ramona keeps commenting on how it’s “irresponsible” to act like Kelly’s break down didn’t happen. That makes me think there was some kind of direction from Bravo to not talk about it anymore. Probably at K’s urging.

            OK… I’m out until tomorrow. Good night fellow JZ haters!!!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i will say this about Krazy
        she doesnt seem to be the one to bring any of it up any more
        and when Jill did she didnt say anything negative about Bethenny liek she used to
        so maybe she did find a med that works for her
        last season i would have suggested cyanyde

    • quincyil says:

      I think someone should write a book.

  16. Savannah001 says:

    Hi everyone, I just saw something that has me puzzled it’s very strange.. I was reading the Bravo post’s and under Jill’s someone posted the comment I love you Jill and the comment is by Savannah Nicole, thats the name I use !!! It certainly was not from me, here’s the thing, when someone register’s at Bravo they should not be able to use a name thats already in use, so how could someone do this? I don’t know a lot about computer’s I’m puzzled by it. I don’t why the asshole did it, none of my post’s ever makes it so it’s not like I’m a regular there that posts and pissed someone off. It’s strange.. All the posts under Jills blog is mostly Jill I love you and missed you, I think she must have her family go there and post comments. I think she will do just about anything that would make the viewers fall for her and be popular.. And I dont believe for 1 moment that she considered leaving the show she loves this shit and its gone to her head..

    Have you all noticed the # of posts on Bravo? I remember when it was 300 to 900 per episode for RHONY for each of the cast. People are feed up with posts not going through unless they are I love you’s.. Why do they even bother any more..

    • VAgirl says:

      Savannah. Your original post was on there for a couple of hours and then it was changed. There’s a whole thread about it on yesterday’s blog. Go check it out! I cannot believe they did that but they did.

    • VAgirl says:

      Savannah. The discussion about your Bravo post is on yesterday’s blog starting at 4:44 p.m.

      • Savannah001 says:

        Thanks VAgirl I havent read yesterdays, I’m going there now. thanks I was very puzzled by it.

        • Sunny says:

          I too have noticed the low number of comments vs. the past and the hight number of butt kissing comments vs. critical comments that there used to be. Reading a bunch of comments about “how much you’ve changed” and “how great you are” over and over gets old fast.

  17. Mookies1mom says:

    Yeah, ’cause apparently Lynn (and all of us) is the only person who has a problem with how Jill behaves. If someone can show me evidence of Lynn’s “psychotic grudge” vs. being disgusted by Jill’s behavior I’d like to see it! And let’s be honest Jill knows how to hold a grudge better than any person I know, with lists and everything. If she is going to show Lynn (or anyone else for that matter) through her own behavior how to let go of a grudge she is going to first learn how to do so herself! Good luck with that.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Opps! This was a reply to VAGirl.

    • VAgirl says:

      ITA. This site is really getting under Jill’s skin big time.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        I hope so actually. Maybe it might make her take a look at how she really treats other people. Oh, who am I kidding. We all wrong and Jill is right. She’s honest, charitable, a great friend and person. Excuse for a moment, I have to go toss my cookies after writing that!

  18. ihearttalavera says:

    So I was just peacefully reading my People magazine, not even thinking about Jill Z., when there SHE was in before and after photos about her liquid face lift. She admits to the face lift but claims she did not have work done on her nose. She says her make up artist shaded her nose on both sides. It seems like I saw her recently from the side and her nose looked dramatically different. I could be wrong. But I digress…

    I was just really annoyed that Jill was in People because I consider it a somewhat legitimate magazine as far as entertainment news goes, and also I knew it made JZ (and her three fans) very, very happy. Argh!! She was also in last week with a recipe for chocolate macaroons that my mom said she was going to make even after repeated protests from me. Really, People Magazine???? I might have to write a letter to the editor. I will NOT be eating any macaroons. 😉

    • klmh says:

      Its interesting. My friend had a face lift a few weeks ago, and it has made her nose look quite large.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I think that’s the problem with cosmetic surgery. It’s like painting. Once the new paint is up, you need new curtains, and so on. Pretty soon, you’ve completely remodeled yourself. Not that I’m saying I wouldn’t consider it when Mr. Gravity comes knocking on my door!

      • kotagirl29 says:

        That was my argument about Shill’s nose. If she got a facelift, even a liquid one, her nostrils would look wider not narrower. But then we already know that Shill thinks viewers (and everyone outside her ‘fabulous circle of friends’) are naive idiots with memory loss so we will buy whateverbulls**t she throws at us. Every time she speaks I have to get out my boots and a shovel so I can dig myself out.

  19. quincyil says:

    I am going on on a limb here.

    Using my unofficial pretend soothsayer powers….

    I think lisanewengland might not be a lisa. I think lisa may be a publicist with connections to Bravo’s clubhouse and Andy Cohen himself. This person is very positive and popular in the Bravo celebrity world. He publishes books also.

    This publicist has been called Jill Zarin’s endorcer. He publishes for his own website and the examiner as well as a Long Island newspaper and that would account for him being qualified for Bravo to give him early DVDs as Jill offered him.

    This publicist had a visceral distain when the world turned against Jill Zarin in July 2010. I think he may be one of the team of publicists that tried to help her, but I can’t find a list of names for those 4 publicists that were mentioned back then.

    When Jill Zarin says a friend helped her to create an “I love Real Housewive” hobby blog, I believe that this nice man would do that.

    • Adgirl says:

      Endorser or enforcer?

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Things that make you go hmmmmm.

      • quincyil says:

        He is a very nice person and I think he sincerely wanted to help Jill when she was shutting down her twitter and calling all of us bullies and haters. On facebook, his friends call him : a diva.

        I slept on it and his writing style matches lisanewenglands.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Great investigative work! I don’t understand why JZ’s people would go to such great lengths to change her public perception. It seems like JZ was pretty wealthy when the show first aired. Is there that much money in reality tv? I know Bethenny made a ton, but I thought that was mainly from her Skinny Girl margarita deal. How will all of this benefit JZ other than repairing her fragile ego?

    • jeepers1941 says:

      Does the following names ring a bell, Kate McKean, Micol Ostow, Jim Miller or Tolu Okunowo?

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Thanks for all you do Q, you & Lynn. Lynn’s blog is getting something like 500 posts per blog, & more people who just read it. I’m watching that counter up there on the right ^ I’ve checked that when I refresh the page, the counter does not increase. So those are unique visits to the site – it’s just bananas. Lisa in New England & Jill would be in heaven to get those hits. Remember when Lisa got all those hits, we thought it was because people from Lynn’s blog were checking out Lisa? So now that we don’t go there anymore…Lisa is not getting traffic. The one time I went there I couldn’t get past the first couple of sentences. Lynn Rocks, Lisa just sucks.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Meant to say Lisa in New whatever’s days are numbered. It’s not a successful blog & never will be. Jill is wasting Bawby’s money on those paid blog/marketing/whatever people. Jill’s personality comes through no matter what she does to try to “improve” herself. No amount of buzz, spin or Bravo promotion is going to help her market herself to us, the viewing public.

      Just got gobsmacked! I was looking @ twitter. Checked Jill Zarin’s timeline (just put in jillzarin & search at twitter.com). Ehh not much happening, less than 20 tweets per hour to her. Then checked Bethenny. OMG. She is getting hundreds of tweets, could be like 400 per hour. It is amazing. Bethenny tweeted that she can’t watch the movie 127 Hours – hundreds of tweets back about the movie. She asked if people like screw top wine (hmmm marketing research Bethenny style, I like it). Hundreds of tweets back. People are tweeting about the SkinnyGirl margarita, her latest book, etc. etc. Wow. Yes it is fascinating to see someone tweet Jill, and then tweet B. Lol I wouldn’t waste my time tweeting Jill if I was promoting my vet office, my blog, my whatever. Twitter is unbelievable. We should all be tweeting Bethenny about Lynn’s blog. And if you have something to market (your website, your product line whatever) tweet Bethenny & other popular celebs. I think it could increase your web traffic or product sales. Bethenny is getting close to 500,000 followers. Jill is at 126,344.

      Marketing research done on twitter would be more scientific than what Bravo does its website. Now we know that Bravo only allows positive comments on Jill’s bs bravo blog. Plus it’s been proved right here on this blog that Bravo will even edit a comment to make it positive for Jill. If a company was looking at what celebrity to get for pitching their products….and they looked at how Jill is doing on twitter compared to Bethenny? Bye bye Jill. I’ll bet Bed Bath & Beyond wishes they had done better research before taking on that bedding line!

      HD thank you & mea culpa ❤ you are true blue

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Andy doesnt really have anything to do with Bravos Blogs
      he is really way too busy for it
      that is all done by interns

      • quincyil says:

        Made a video with Andy about suicide and gays. This guy is in the clubhouse.

        It started with a reality tea article that seemed to be takes from Associated Content, but on further investigation was takes from an examiner article.

        I have screen shots and saved everything for Lynn as Jill reads this board and he may take some of this away.

        I think everything Jill said was truthful. She had a friend who cared about her. The friend created @gingerzarin and after she went to Chicago and Lynn let me write the review of BH with a line at the end of every paragraph that “this BH housewife would never have a web site dedicated to her…” he felt sorry for Jill Zarin and made the “I love Jill Zarin” blog in new england.

        Days before I had started the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie. I think she showed our board to him.

        What these NYers don’t understand is we are studying their behavior as we would study a character in a play, book, or television series that is scripted. That is what we are taught to do in school. The stars don’t appreciate this kind of analysis because part of what happens is Jill Zarin or Kelly Bensimon.

        Yesterday, I researched the Brown Symposium where Jill had a question and answer period. I wrote an “I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie and submitted it to Lynn to see if she thinks it is of value. The reasons for that symposium are of great interest to us as we are here watching the shows and discussing them together.

        Last Jan. Jill could have had a meeting with Lynn, but Jill did her thing and insulted Lynn then proceeded to form battle lines and go to war. It’s the same thing she did with Bethenny and probably did in high school and junior high.

        Jill begins to tell the reality of being a reality star in the interview, but as usually goes of on a tangent about her hair, face, and makeup so her argument is lost in outer space.

        Simon van Kempen told me that they are real people in unscripted situations, but we can see Bravo creating scenerios for them to interact.

        I wish I had gone to the Brown Seminar. I would not have bothered with Jill Zarin, but I think that I could have contributed to the understanding of the scholar, students and interested public as I have studied these women since Lynn created this site one year ago.

  20. BlueEyedGirl says:

    This is so off-topic but it will make all of you guys smile (I think.. )

    The comedian is doing a spoof of reality tv and it just makes me laugh so hard.. Another one of his that you will appreciate is in the poster’s videos called “The Call”..
    I hope you guys watch both and have a good laugh!! :0)

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Im not talking to you Jackie but i will text you to let you know im not talking to you



      • BlueEyedGirl says:

        My favorite line is.. “Jackie probably thinks she is a dictionary.. and the whole world revolves around her and its like ‘Uhh.. Hello! That’s a globe!'”

        Glad you liked it tho! Christmas Tree, The Call and Jackie n Debra are my favorites.. He’s hilarious!

  21. ihearttalavera says:

    Has anybody heard that Danielle from RHWNJ got her own show? I think she said she was doing home tours of celebrities and “royalty.” She was on Dr. Phil last week.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I thought I heard she had a show, and then it got cancelled already.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Shocking. I really wonder who in the world thought she was a great choice for hosting a show of any type. They say it’s not what you know, but who you know. Maybe her creepy, ex-con body guard threatened to rough somebody up???

      • Danielle was hosting a show called “Social” on Wealth TV. That show was recently cancelled. She has a new reality show coming on VH-1 in the fall with Heidi Montag and Jake Pavleka. I read that it is a show about contestants competing to open a new restaurant in West Hollywood.

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          Sounds like a show that will be an epic fail. Just looked up “daniellestaub” on twitter. Someone tweeted these photos from the filming of this new show:


          Danielle is getting maybe 1 tweet every 4 to 6 hours. Zzzz

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            uh oh. oh boy. there’s a link to more about Heidi…so there is someone else on this new show with Danielle, Heidi & Pavelka. Ashley Dupre! She’s the ex-call girl that got mixed up with the ex-gov of NY Eliot Spitzer. So maybe this show will get people watching in NY/NJ/CT because of her? Another person they should have had on is the infamous Allison DuBois, Camille’s psychic dinner buddy.

            From the hillsfreak blog:

            “As far as her career, Heidi has signed on to star in a new reality television show called “Famous Food.”
            The gig will follow seven celebrities as they attempt to open their own restaurant in West Hollywood. Danielle Staub, Jake Pavelka, and Ashley Dupre are also on the roster.”

            {I found all that from a twitter sent to Danielle}

            • ihearttalavera says:

              Hahahahaha! Allison “electric cigarette” DuBois. That would be perfect! What a motley crew.

  22. jeepers1941 says:

    well I see my puter is still screwing up, so I’ll just read………….LOL

  23. ihearttalavera says:

    Totally off topic… If anybody gets a chance to see President Obama’s speech at the White House Correspondents dinner that happened tonight, you must. Especially if you’re a Donald Trump hater. I had no idea President Obama is such a funny man. Seth Meyers spoke also. Good stuff!

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      very funny….Trump was there
      watch it here:


      • ihearttalavera says:

        Trump was pissed!!! I was shocked that he showed up after all that happened this week. Very brave. You could see how uncomfortable the people seated around him felt. Too funny. Thanks for posting the link.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Oh yeah, Trump was pissed. But it was fun to watch. Nobody at his table was laughing but it looked like everyone else in the room was.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            oh there was a woman sitting right there with him that was laughing

            did anyone see the other speach where Donald dropped the F Bomb over and over oh yeah he is presidential material

            for every stand up comic in the US maybe

  24. Savannah001 says:

    OMG, I got online earlier and I went over to see if they put my post through and I saw just my name and I love Jill and I was freaking out, I could not believe it ! LOL I told my husband, I could not understand how my user name could be used again and it’s clear Bravo is actually changing posts ! Jill is a piece of work I shouldnt be surprised by her since she was so ready to get attorneys involved in that poll that she lost on to Ramona. It;s like she’s trying to buy people that can do damage control for her and it;s all a big LIE. She;s got Bravo changing posts twisting words to create a better image of herself and its all a LIE she;s like a used car salesman, she’s a sneaky snake. She has actually hired people to make herself look better it;s like behind the scene she;s running for public office and let;s not forget that she says she didnt want to come back but so many people wanted her to do the show. OMG she’s not going anywhere and never was. IMO she was on pins and needles worried that they wouldnt want her to come back. Jill Zarin loves this life she’s caught up in it now and it’s taken her over. My goodness when she appeared on Andy’s show she’s trying to look like she’s in college and it;s not working for her. I hate when she continues to try to sale that book, the fact is it;s been over a year and she now can’t give them away.

    But on a very serious note she is a BIG liar she just is. Her plans are all wrong she’s paying people to paint a pretty picture of herself. First of all no one should have to pay anyone to do that you are responsible for your actions and she needs to be the one to make the changes but she can’t change if she could she wouldnt need all these paid people behind the scenes it should be personal and she’s handled it with the help of people and to me it makes her look alot worse.

    Quincy, I’m so glad you copied that, I dont know why Bravo has blogs if they don’t put anything through if the cast can have them take them down why bother posting at all and my little post didnt have cuss words, it was catty yes 🙂 but I didnt attack her. Bravo should have just taken it down instead they made my blog a lie, I certainly do not love her.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Disgusting. Does Bravo.com do this for all housewives? Or just JZ? I was shocked a few weeks ago when I found out they weren’t posting negative comments, but to actually CHANGE your comment? Too much. People must hate her more than even we imagined!

      • quincyil says:

        I think they do it all of the time. They don’t care if we notice or get upset.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          It doesn’t make sense to me since Andy loves to stir the shit on WWHL. I don’t understand why he wouldn’t want the same on the blogs. It seems like they would get more hits if there were real conversations going on.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      This is really really bad for Bravo. Lynn it’s a smoking gun. If you blog it, we will tweet it!

      • quincyil says:

        Bravo doesn’t care what we say or think as long as we watch their shows so they can make money.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      Savannahoo, Bravo could be on the edge of tampering with freedom of rights amendment. They should either allow all comments good and bad be posted and let the fans and viewers decide for themselves. Bravo open they’re blog site to the public, so Andy Cohen either needs to shit of get off the pot. And Bravo needs to do the same about Andy Cohen as well…………………..

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        once again Andy has nothing to do with the blogs its all interns
        they arent even getting paid

        Andy is president of original programming
        do you really think he has time to tamper with blogs LOL

        • error404 says:

          Yes. As he’s walking to the loo, he passes unpaid intern #3 and says “Oh, don’t post anything negative about Zarin, or she’ll fire bomb the place or something. Tell the others.” and keeps walking. What exactly is he “too busy” doing if it’s not controlling the public image Bravo puts out.

          • quincyil says:

            I wonder if the Bravo clubhouse smile is the true Andy. I think he gets angry just like the rest of us. He didn’t like Cat O tossing her one liners Thurs. night.

            I’d love to run down to St. Louis for one of his events there, but I never know until he is on a plane flying home.

            I had to use the net to find information about the Brown Symposium because some person would not spend his day with Jill Zarin. I wrote a blog on the prairie that used materials from students that is on the web. I think you would have enjoyed the conference as Jill’s part was a small question and answer period and a lot of it was on the line between reality and real.


        • jeepers1941 says:

          DJ, oh but he does have something to do with the blogs my dear.
          Infact, he himself blogs, he his the producer, he is the boss of everything that pertains to this franchise and posting on the blog site is just a part of his job. So he needs to either lay down the law and do what is right for all concerned. If he played fair, his ratings would go up as well as Bravo’s, ca-ching ca-ching…………<3

      • Savannah001 says:

        I agree Jeepers, we’re the viewers were the ones that decide their ratings they make it pubilc to all of us. You can see by the low volume of posts they are holding back posts and not putting them through due to them being negative, if you look at last years number of posts compared to this years it;s easy to see. These women open themselves up they are the ones that wanted to be on a real reality show, but JILL ZARIN is only thinking about ways she can make sure the next reunion doesnt end up like the last one with viewers pissed off at her behavior.

        • vilzvet says:

          Maybe you could try sending a follow up post and see if that goes through…at the very least let the interns know that you know what they did using your name!

          • quincyil says:

            I bet there are thousands of posts lying on the floor of the interns’ cubicles.

    • quincyil says:

      When this kind of thing happens, the truth always comes out. bravotv.com does not consider the input of fans as important so they do whatever they want with the comment section.

      • I am starting to wonder if Bravotv.com is changing most of Jill’s blog comments. She may be getting mostly negative comments and Bravo may be rewriting them and turning them into positive comments. Very strange!

        • quincyil says:

          I think they dump most, clean up some, and occassionally publish the truth.

  25. fort lauderdale gay says:

    Wow, sounds like we’ve got: Amazongate, Lisabloggate, and now bravobloggate. Time to open a camel farm.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      then open the gates and let them free range.

    • quincyil says:

      I think Amazongate and Bravobloggate are proven. Lisabloggate has a boat load of evidence waiting for Harvey’s analysis, but you have to follow bread crumbs when it comes to proving the positive. It’s easy to prove the negative.

      If we apply Occam’s Razor: The most useful statement of the principle for scientists is “when you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better,” and trust that Jill’s friend created @gingerzarin and lisanewengland to help her promote the positive, then the man I described fits. It also fits that he has a press pass and is entitled to get the early DVD that the bloggers who boycotted Miami requested in their Letters to Bravo. Jill is not violating her contract and giving her DVD to anyone because he is one of the people who can receive the DVD.

      Jill is tweeting all of that every day because she knows some of us read her twitter and she is being Jill Zarin. She could have called him on the phone, emailed him, DMd him, or told him while they were hugging and having a photograph taken together, but she tweets him day after day to taunt us. I know her game and I just laugh at her.

  26. jeepers1941 says:

    ok, taking a chance here:
    There does seem to be a connection between jz, kate mckean , micol ostow and one cynthia zarin. cynthia zarin is an author and publisher!

  27. jeepers1941 says:

    somewhere in that mix Lisa New England is stirring around as well!

  28. jeepers1941 says:

    I am going to kill this puter yet if it keeps putting my posts in the wrong place!!!!!

  29. Mookies1mom says:

    Oh, jeepers1941 I know how it is with computers that don’t work the way they are supposed to! Mookie’s dad can thankfully fix just about anything having to do with computers but I don’t dare try to get him to add someone’s phone number to the call directory on our phone! I hope it get’s better!

  30. Mookies1mom says:

    Lynn, I know you are a busy woman but I was wondering if you could put Mookie’s photo in the family album. I sent you an email the other day. If there is a problem with the photo let me know. I know you are playing catch-up and then we have OC tonight and BEA tomorrow so I’m not trying to rush you. Thanks!

  31. nathania says:

    I just read Jill’s blog on this episode. I think this is the first time I have ever read her blog, it’s almost impossible without imagining her nasal speech in my head. But I caught something interesting, where she says, “Kelly will never forget what Ramona did to her on the island.”

    Wow. I think that was supposed to read, “I” (Jill) will never forget what Ramona did to ME on the island.

    I think people are right that Jill is behind all this mess. Which is probably why she decided to be absent for a couple of episodes, so her henchmen could do the work she laid the groundwork for, tormenting Alex and smearing Ramona with the alcoholism meme. Bethenny is gone, and Sonya is riding the fence and playing politics, so she won’t be bothered by Jill. I can’t think of any other reason Jill would miss a second on camera. And conveniently, as it plays out, can’t blame Jill, she’s not even in this hemisphere.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      nathania, you are absolutely correct. JZ was so livid when she and Bobby were not invited to stay at the house that night. She totally blames Alex and Ramona for standing by Alex at the time. Hurt and embarrassed, it was after that happened JZ put out the word to get rid of Alex or I am walking(cough) and pay back to Ramona was going to be a bitch………………….JZ set it all in motion thereafter!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        close but no cigar
        Jill had it in for Alex way before Scary island
        Even before Alex gave Jill that message from Bethenny
        BUT it was after that message that she became really vocal about it

  32. jeepers1941 says:

    holy crap, lookie what I did 🙂

  33. jeepers1941 says:

    8-# in here

  34. Smompy says:

    I still like Sonja, although I’d probably like her a little better if she were just more honest about herself. I mean she told the Zarin that she was a “model” from Saratoga, and on her website she says she “balances her taste for luxury with her Berkshire sensibilities” when she’s neither from Saratoga nor the Berkshires, but is in fact the daughter of an Irish Catholic farmer turned truck driver from Averill Park, NY. Which is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. If anything, it makes her social climbing abilities seem more impressive. Anyway, I kinda figured she was lying about her childhood habit of riding bareback too, but I just ran across this early pic and now I suppose that maybe she was telling the truth after all!

    • quincyil says:

      I think social climbing is everywhere even in trailer parks.

      I think I could be friends with Sonja, but she is a ditz at times. I feel sorry for women who have it all and fall with divorces. Many of them don’t know how to pick themselves up from the ground. The way you handle yourself affects the people around you.

      Jill Zarin is very honest. When she said that you could sit on the couch next to Sonja if you let her stick her tongue down you throat, she was telling us about the many rumors in NYC about Sonja’s behavior some of which her husband put out there during the divorce.

  35. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    isnt Averill Park right next to Saratoga ???

    • quincyil says:

      Sometimes, when people ask where I am from I say Chicago as they know Chicago and not a small town. I’m sure that is whey she said Saratoga.

  36. jeepers1941 says:

    When Ramona stood in front of jz at the reunion and stomp her foot and scream at her, “you never gave her a chance, GOD DAMMIT” jz was wanting out of that place, off that couch so bad she could taste it. That was the final straw that broke the camels back. Ramona had succeeded in front of Andy, the entire cast, the millions of viewers watching put jz in her place, a place of shame, embarrassment, humiliation and took away jz dignity for good. For that reason and all the other things jz could think of was the beginning of the end for her. So when she was not able to change and as of yet I don’t believe she has or ever will change, she signed her on death warrant so to speak and I will never be able to think her other than the monstrous bitch that she is……

  37. jeepers1941 says:

    BTW, I finally got to hear Cat tell LULU she was ” the worse back stabbing, two faced person she ever had known.” I was liking Cat so much more. And stupid LULU kept looking over at Andy as if to say, tell her to shut up, but for once Andy did a good thing and kept his mouth shut, but he was grinning from ear to ear…………….LOL

    • klmh says:

      I thought in the class dept., Luann won hands down. Cat is mean and spiteful. She was obviously pissed about the situation Andy put her in during the live show. It was interesting to watch though. During the 2nd part of WWHL, Cat seemed to dig herself deeper into a hole by saying the same nasty, but true things about L., over and over again. It was just mean, and to me unnecessary. You can make your point without being rude and demeaning. jmo. And, Im not a fan of Luann’s.
      Since you had a difficult time loading this up as well, did you notice, Im not sure what Cat said to Andy concerning Harry and kissing, but even Andy blushed. It must have been filthy.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        You are so right on. To make Andy blush? So vulgar and inappropriate. Cat actually looked very pretty, but her behavior completely ruined it.

  38. quincyil says:

    Being a bravo reality star is like riding a roller coaster with all of the highs and lows. It’s not for the faint of heart to jump on that ride. I think Jill has a greater problem dealing with this because she is a yenta and is unable to keep her thoughts private. That makes great TV and causes Jill great pain.

    I think NYers say the f word and b word daily so trying to control it during the six or more months of filming is difficult. The problems Jill has is she wanted us to think of her as high class and she speaks like a gutter snipe. She is like Eliza Doolittle from “My Fair Lady” without the phoentics instruction or lessons on etiquette. She should have taken the time to look at the Countess’s book.

    I think Alex and Simon actually have “a touch of class.” If you look at the way they handle the twittter insults, they really know how to handle people and make the reader agree with them.

    I live with a man who loves the opera and symphonies. He reads Russian literature and asks me questions about Thomas Mann. It’s not pretend class, it’s real.

    I think Jill is pretending to have class. I don’t think she fits in with our idea of Society in NYC and that is a fatal flaw in her attempt to show us the real Jill Zarin.

  39. jeepers1941 says:

    Well for me, one does not have to be well educated, read, or even a lover of the opera and classical music to hve class. I have class and I don’t even think about having class. I was taught to never be rude or talk about people behind they’re back. Nor was I ever allowed to use (not that I ever have) racial slurs, or look down on someone who had less than I did. I was also taught and to know the meaning of it, that there before God go I and to be thankful for what I had. My parents never went to church, but they made sure I did as a young child. But times have changed since 60 yrs ago and people just don’t get it sometimes. So I try to keep myself in check, help someone out when I can. Common sense is a good rule to live by………….

  40. Jennifer says:

    It is getting more difficult to stomach RHONY…namely Jill, LuAnn and Kelly. For the life of me, I cannot imagine having a job wading through, much less CHANGING responses to blogs for JZ. LOL. What a horrific job. Would make you want to go home and kick your dog or husband or something or someone! LOL I would tell them to let them go through. She deserves what she gets. Instead of using a publicist, a blog, etc. (here’s something unique), why doesn’t she try being NICE as in quit back-stabbing, lying, gossiping, being rude, etc. Or even take 1 thing at a time. Maybe there is an etiquette school in NY??? I know the “countess” hasn’t a clue to etiquette or class, much less “singing” about it! *GAG* I would rather party with Ramona and Alex and possibly Sonja (if she is not on her high horse or off it – no pun intended – as she has tried to be this season). Just my opinion…I’m not on here much and I wouldn’t give JZ’s site(s) the privilege of me passing through. Love this site and I love that the people can even agree to disagree, which the RHONY cannot seem to do without a knife sticking out of someone’s back! EEK!!

  41. fort lauderdale gay says:

    Lisanewengland as challenged Cat Ommanny to give her an interview on her twitter, but the message doesn’t show up on Cat’s twitter…..
    I am not twitter literate. Can someone explain that to me? Can you recommend a good place to read more about twitter and how it works? I’ve looked at twitter.com, but it doesn’t seem to answer the questions that I have.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I’m not sure where you could read more about Twitter. But it is super easy to use, and I highly recommend it. I stay off of all of the social networking sites because I don’t like to share personal information. With Twitter, you just pick a name and sign up for “tweets” which are messages that range from news stories, pictures, discount coupons, random thoughts, and comments. When you sign up for an account, you are taken through a sort of series to find out what your interests are (shopping, art, sports, world news, fitness, politics, etc.) and then you are guided from there. You can “follow” or “unfollow” anybody at any time. It’s very fun and easy to use and a great source for news and current events. It’s also fun to follow your favorite comedians for a good laugh. So when you log in, you can read all of the various tweets you’ve signed up for. You can also have them sent to your phone as a text message. Hope this helps…

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Ooops! Sorry FLG. I read your Twitter question too fast, and didn’t realize you were asking a detailed question regarding why comments show up or not. I’m sure you already knew everything I said about Twitter. Sorry!

  42. Smompy says:

    “DJ Loops Fruit says:
    May 1, 2011 at 6:25 am
    isnt Averill Park right next to Saratoga ???”

    No, not really. Averill Park is a hamlet in Rensselaer County, which is across the river from Albany. Saratoga is in Saratoga County, which is on the same side of the river as Albany, but a ways inland and to the northwest. And the Berkshires are, of course, in Massachusetts.

    “quincyil says:
    Sometimes, when people ask where I am from I say Chicago as they know Chicago and not a small town. I’m sure that is whey she said Saratoga.”

    I’m pretty sure that’s not why she said it. It might have been the case if she had told Jill she lived in (or near) Albany, being that Albany is the nearest “city” to Averill Park and Jill certainly would be familiar with her own state’s capital. But Albany is middle class and unglamorous, while Saratoga is known for having a lot of old money floating around. I’m quite sure THAT’S why when Jill asked Sonja where she was from, she said, “Upstate New York, Saratoga.” And, by the way, I’m not ssaying it’s a huge sin to fib about where you come from. I’m just saying I’d like Sonja better if she were more honest, plus since she’s “speaking” on the interwebs and on national TV and all these are easy to check, it’s kinda stupid of her to lie about them.

    “Jill is a very honest person.”

    LOL, please, Qunicy, give me some warning next time you’re planning to write something like that. I damn near spit out my McMuffin when I read that sentence!

  43. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    i found out they are about 45 minutes away from each other
    My mom used to work at the race track in Saratoga

    we used to go when we were younger personaly i thought it was a dump

    • Smompy says:

      I think if there’s any traffic at all, it’s probably closer to an hour’s drive, as opposed to Albany, which is maybe 15 – 20 minutes away. And yeah, I think Saratoga is a little dumpy looking too. In the 1950s and 60s, their idea of urban renewal was to tear down all the beautiful Victorian hotels that once lines its streets and put up strip malls and the like. Nowadays Saratoga Springs is much nicer than Saratoga proper IMO. But still, to some people it’s just more impressive to say you come from Saratoga than to say you come from Averill Park. Saratoga has a very long history as a resort for the wealthy; at first in the early 1800s, because of the baths and spas and, later, because of the fashionable hotels, and of course the racetrack. In the movie Gone With The Wind, I remember Scarlett being forced to be a proper young lady by taking a nap during the Wilkes’ BBQ and complaining to Mammy, “I didn’t notice any of those girls in Saratoga taking naps!”

  44. RCH says:

    Omg I TOTALLY missed Kelly making fun of Native Americans!
    Now I gotta go re watch that part.

  45. Well, it’s possible that her behavior is effecting Zarin business, which seems to be a family operation. The rest of the family probably isn’t too happy with her image last season. Very little promomtion of Zarin fabrics, interesting that her gay decorator disappeared, too. The store is everything to a family in business. Bawby may put up with her behavior, but I bet his family would give him an earful. But maybe I’m wrong

  46. Amanda says:

    Ugh! Not liking new York housewives anymore, it all seems so fake and “staged” now :/. This show was my favorite last season. The only part I liked this season at all is when Sonja told Alex to get out of her house, and Luann said “she would of thrown Alex out just for the dress” haha. that was great! Other then that, this entire season is a huge let down, Sonja is different, I llked her witty fun personality & jokes last season! I miss bethenny being on Here! (not liking her new show much, it’s too much complaining).I don’t think Cindy is right for this show at all & she has a scary, too serious face! Kelly is hard to watch too, I mean who cares what she has to say ever, dumb!!!!! Actually luann, Ramona and Jill ate the only 3 I like anymore on this, & I didnt care for Jill last season, but now I do, and Alex always complimenting “herself” is very annoying! Yikes!

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