I Hate Jill Zarin Weekend Update

I Hate Jill Zarin   Weekend Update

Jill Zarin Exclusive Blog Episode 4

Bobby, Ginger and I just returned home from an amazing weekend in New England. I was honored to be chosen to speak at Brown University’s Reality TV Symposium. I listened to students present conference papers, and professors from visiting schools speak about various topics. I learned so much and think maybe I should go back to college for my MBA. Discussing theories and applications was so interesting, it makes me jealous that Ally is in college. I wish I could turn back the clock and retake all of my classes again, knowing now what I didn’t know then. I can’t thank Sara Leone, Hunter Hargraves and Lynne Joyrich enough for including me in what can only be considered a once in a lifetime experience.   

Saturday we packed up and drove to Boston for the weekend. I reconnected with a friend who lived on my floor at the Atrium on Commonwealth Ave in Boston and had lunch with one of my closest college friends. It felt like no time had passed (except for 26 years!) as it should feel with real friends. Monday I delivered a speech at Simmons College Leadership Conference (my Alma mater) for 3000 female executives. Bobby and my friend Jeff, being the only men in the room, were in their glory! I graduated Simmons in 1985 and it was an honor to be asked to speak. I was allowed to broadcast the speech live through ustream.tv. The weather was “ugly” so we stayed in most of the weekend but we did go to a fabulous restaurant in Hingham called Alma Nove. I ran into Mark Wahlberg leaving the restaurant driving the same black Bentley Bobby has. His brother, Paul Wahlberg is the chef/owner and it is named for his mom and her 9 children. 9!



This is the last episode I won’t be in, do you miss me yet?

 I can’t believe how much happened while I was gone. It looks like Bobby and I chose the right week to take a vacation! I loved the casual cocktail party at Luann’s house. I actually found it hilarious to watch because it feels much different when you are in one of those scenes. So many comments, digs, opinions, most of the time we mean nothing by any of them, but it’s interesting how anything you say can be used against you. I think watching these scenes will make me even more aware of what I say. My philosophy is that you can’t have zero tolerance for people. I am happy to see Alex has learned that too and forgives Sonja or at least let’s things slide. Life it too short to hold grudges. Though without them, who would watch the show? It would be so boring!

 I think Sonja meant well trying to bring Kelly and Ramona together but I don’t think she realizes the deep pain Kelly still carried from Scary Island. Ramona promised Kelly she would be safe and protected by Ramona on the trip. Kelly didn’t want to go and Ramona begged her. Kelly will never forget what Ramona did to her, not just on the island but calling her names after the trip to the press. With friends like that who needs enemies. Kelly’s motto, to just be polite will suit her well. Kudos to Sonja for trying though.


 I told you we would be seeing more of Cindy soon, and I think she is great. She has a very strong presence for a new girl and I love it. Do you think all of the ladies will love it? She handled the situation with Ramona perfectly at her Birthday party. Her dad was right there. There is a better time and place to hash things out than that. Never in front of family. Ramona then blames Luann for telling her to talk to Cindy at the party? Why cant she take any responsibility for her actions, Ramona just doesn’t get social cues. I have to say I am really concerned about Ramona and her need to drink before noon.


Why were all of the kids at the Birthday party riding without helmets? Kelly, Alex? Also the smallest should be in front. They could have been hurt badly. Allyson once flipped over on one and the helmet saved her life. Maybe I am just being mama Jill, but that scene bothered me. Helmets everyone!


I will be going to Chicago with my sister Lisa and my niece Jena to see one of Oprah’s last tapings this week. We are beyond excited and meeting with some of my fans while we are there.

I will be on my sister Lisa Wexler’s radio show live on Fridays. Visit her on Twitter @lisawexler and lisawexler.com Follow us for times.


See you next Thursday!!!





Jill’s latest “private” blog sent to anyone who signs up to receive it, Thanks Boston 02127 for sending it to me.  It’s not much different than the blog she posted on Bravotv.com, even when she’s not in the episode, she has to butt her newly created nose into the middle of things. 

One thing I do agree with is that putting Kelly and Ramona in the same room together to try to get them to become friends is a complete waste of time.  Ramona actually has a brain while as Sonja pointed out, Kelly is “brainless”. 

I read one of the media sites, it might have been Popeater or one of the others, Jill pointing out that she caught a glimpse of Marky Mark (Mark Walburg) is as idiotic as Oprah allowing this horrible bitch to take up a seat in the audience for one of her final shows.  Who does that?  You don’t see celebrities tweeting about catching a glimpse of other celebrities, only Jill Zarin’s lowly world.  It’s really sickening that real Oprah fans are not able to get tickets to see her final shows being filmed and Jill Zarin walks right in and gets a seat.  I’m sure she wasn’t on the years long waiting list.  Oprah has never had a housewife on her show and I certainly hope she doesn’t start now.  I’m sure Jill is only going hoping to get on camera or hoping to get a lot of freebees.

Luann and Cat on Watch What Happens Live

  Poor Cat had just overdosed on three solid hours  of Luann’s daaahhlig’s, having watched, at Andy’s request the first three episodes of The Real Housewives of New York Season 4.  I would be a bit cranky too.  Luann pulled that passive aggressive nonsense when Cat said “we’re on the same show”  when she was trying to make a point about Luann’s nasty talking head interviews.  Luann was very condescending, “no, dahhlig we’re not on the same show”  smirk/giggle.  What a bitch!  Similar to the way she insulted Caroline of New Jersey but not even knowing she was a housewife. 

Clearly LuLu doesn’t waste time watching any of the other housewives shows, since New York is so superior to any of the others.  Why would she? 

The day after the show aired Cat posted on her Facebook wall that she did not enjoy her time on Andy’s show and if she never saw Luann again, it would be too soon.  I hope that doesn’t stop Cohen from considering her as a new cast member of The Real Housewives of New York because I think it would be a brilliant casting move.  I’ll bet Luann would refuse to film with her anyway, and she’d call all the Brunettes telling them not to film with her either. 

I love how Cat called her out on her ridiculous book, this woman knows nothing about manners and etiquette, she can write about how to catch and keep a rich Count, but that doesn’t mean she’s able to pull it off.   How can someone who claims to be the epitomy of manners make some of the rude and nasty comments she makes in her interviews?  Luann talks about “The Ramona’s of the world” but I would much rather spend time with Ramona, who tells you to your face how she feels than Luann who is always judging, always ready with the smart ass comment to put people down, she’s always talking badly behind people’s back. 

 I have to wonder about this Jacque guy and what he sees in Luann.  What does she really do for him?  Is he trying to further his business by being on television?  Why would this guy get involved with a Housewife who has two teenage kids, one of which we know is a handful and likes to play on the opposite side of the law.  What is in it for him?  He was able to highlight his wine distribution on the show recently but the downside is he has to have a relationship with the horrible, pretentious and sickeningly passive aggressive Luann.  There is no way this guy is for real, he can’t possibly be in this just for love. 

Cat is getting a ton of support on Twitter and on Facebook for being brave enough to call Luann out, she’s the first to have done it, besides Bethenny calling Luann a snake, it seems Bethenny knew what she was talking about. 

I want to share with you a post by our own Kukulet:

Kukulet says:
April 29, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Okay…I’ve been providing thorough research for numerous books and articles on the British royal family for 20 years, and I own the Diana website sanctioned by Harry and William…so I’m gonna add my two cents and say that neither Cat nor LuAnn are about to be hired by Debretts Guide to the British Peerage.
LuAnn was married to a French count whose ancestor BOUGHT the title. It’s not what anyone besides LuAnn would consider a “significant” title…ex-hubby is merely one of a large crowd of minor nobility. LuAnn needs to stop prancing around like she was married to the Prince of Wales. Being married to a minor French count does not give his fourth wife an automatic leg up on the inner workings of the British aristocracy. I doubt LuAnn ever met any of the British aristos who attended the wedding this morning, much less hung around with them on Kensington High Street.
Cat’s got a better grasp of British aristocracy…but not by much. If she doesn’t know that the Queen is always referred to as “Her Majesty” (the title of HRH is reserved for Prince and Princesses of the Queen’s family), then Cat really hasn’t been paying attention, especially for someone who claims to have moved in those circles (if allegedly sleeping with Harry is the same thing). In the royal world, the difference between “Majesty” and “Highness” is like”Titles 101″-very basic stuff.
Someone needs to tell those two that a British accent and a minor title by marriage doesn’t make them royal “experts”. It’s kind of insulting to those of us who have put in years of time and effort to understand the ways the peerage works.
FYI: Kate’s new title is HRH The Duchess of Cambridge. Formally, she is also Princess William, but she won’t be called that. She’s not Princess Catherine-one has to be born into the royal family to use the title in front of their Christian name. (Diana was never Princess Diana, either.)
Anyway…Kate looked lovely in both gowns (although didn’t care for the mohair bolero with the second gown much) and the wedding was beautiful. Best wishes to the bride and groom!

Thank you Kukulet for this insight.  If I may just add, Cat never claimed to be an expert on British Royalty in fact when I interviewed her she didn’t even want to talk about them, she’s not a infatuated with the royals nor does she claim to be an expert.  She went on WWHL because, well, why would she turn down the opportunity but she wasn’t enthuiastic about the theme of the evening.  Not to be argumentative, I love the information that you provided Kukulet, thanks!  oxox

Moving On….

There has been some discussion of the biased blog created by LisaNewEngland.  Some have speculated that this blog is written by Jill’s sister Lisa who does live in New England, but that would be too easy, right?

Our crackerjack research team have come up with a pretty iron clad theory.  Jill Zarin lover and biased blogger, LisaNewEngland is not only a fake “hobby blogger” but it is none other than Jill’s assistant, Darren. 

Quincy, still with a positive glow in her heart trying to see the best in everyone has submitted this for your review:

“I Love Jill Zarin” blog on the prairie by Quincy IL
Last week, Jill Zarin spoke at the Brown University Symposium titled: “A Taste for Trash: A Conversation about Reality TV.  She was congratulated by Kelly Killoren Bensimon on twitter who like to remind us that she is a graduate of Columbia University in New York City (not the country, Columbia.)  The purpose of the symposium was to address “the perverse pleasures and complexities involved in watching reality TV-how they form both entertains and moralizes, insidiously instructing its viewers on what it means to be a good and bad citizen.”  The organizers recognized that Reality TV is a global phenomenon and a part of the television industry.
Brown University’s Professor Lynne Joyrich developed a course on Television Realities in the Fall of 2010. The students in this course participated in the organization of the Symposium as a part of their personal development and to help other students understand the influence mass communications on their daily lives.  The organizers were interested in the economics of the reality television movement as well as the lessons that the medium teaches about race, gender and sexuality.   A topic of interest to the members of this IHJZ website is “celebrity-and what it means to become an instant real celebrity.”
An interesting aspect of this symposium was a look at the audience of the Reality Television Medium.  That audience includes the readers of this website.  The organizers looked at the “We are smarter than that” aspect that we often enjoy discussing.  “The audience can actually watch with a degree of skepticism and irony.”
One of Brown’s graduates of Mass Communications Media is Lauren Zalaznick, the head of Bravo.  Lauren has been interviewed by the New York Times.  Lauren believes that Bravo makes “high class “reality shows like Top Chef.” 
The entire slate of reality shows were presented in the one day symposium, but of interest to us is the question and answer period that involved Jill Zarin.  I was 1300 miles away from Providence on the prairie in Western Il so I searched for information about the discussion on the net.  There was an interview of Jill Zarin and she shared how Bravo found her.  She states that Bravo wanted rich people that would share their lives and that some people were worried about the IRS coming after them if they shared (note Teresa Giudice.)  Jill then spoke a little more and completely lost her train of thought.  The reporter dragged Jill back into a discussion of the reality show and Jill stated, “The show is like a symphony.  The first season was about Alex, the second season was about Luann, the third season was about Kelly and me (Jill) and the fourth season is about the Blonds vs. the Brunettes.”  Jill wanted the Brown participants and us to know that this is a reality show and it is not her.  She is not an instigator.  She does not pot stir.  The reality show requires drama.  Jill compared the show to a sword fight.  Without the drama, there would be no interest in watching the show. Unfortunately, Jill stops talking about the show and drifts into her hair, facelift, and attempts to create a character like Lucille Ball in pink so the rest of the interview period was wasted.
The symposium looked at the use of the Reality medium to help charities like “The Celebrity Apprentice” blogged on IHJZ on Mondays.  We have watched stars on Bravo reality shows create charity events such as birthday parties for 16 year olds and fashion shows and we have wondered how much of the money actually went to the cause.  We have also wondered about the Jill Zarin tweet that Dinah offered an trip to Jill Zarin to Chicago if she would attend  a charity event. 
The organizers stated that while these shows are unscripted, they are constructed through editing and casting.  They indicated that there are different levels of real.  “It’s a form of epistemological game playing= (people want to) get a glimmer of the real-real within the reality. But, everyone also knows that it is a fantasy.”  Jill Zarin has stated this in her own way many times.  She wants us to know that the show is not her reality.  Jill is creating Jill Zarin of season one, season two, season three, and season four.
I have stated that I study Human behavior and that is why I am drawn to this web site and watching the reality shows that are blogged on “I Hate Jill Zarin.”  I am also interested the lifestyles of the Bravo celebrities and the cities that they live in.  The title of Jill Zarin’s Brown University Symposium was “We Are Who We Watch: Reality Television, Citizenship, Celebrity.”  So I am a 47 year old Jewish mother and step grandmother living in Manhattan with a dog that smells and a shopping habit that I share with the Planet Earth.”
The End

Thank you Quincy, fascinating…

A New Housewives of New York Parody – Season 4


Jill’s latest Facebook post:

Thank you so much for following @allyzarin on twitter. For those who have nothing nice to say and are cruel or disrespectful to me or my fans..you will be BANNED. Why you choose to even Like my page is ridiculous, but you will not be able to “play” with us anymore. Please let me know who I need to BLOCK and I will clean it up in AM.

I find it fascinating that Jill not only expects but demands only positive comments, she refuses to hear anything negative, and that folks, is why Jill Zarin will never change.  She isn’t open to hearing anything that isn’t a glowing, loving report.  Good luck with that Jill!  Just a note, she included this reprimand right in with the mention of her daughter Ally, just to ensure that she can call people out for talking negatively about her daughter.  Transparent!

This is a genius poll that Jill Zarin decided to post on her own Facebook page, she did ask people NOT to vote for her but the results speak for themselves:
Bethenny Frankel    1,085 votes 
Jill Zarin  332 votes
 Cindy  89 votes
Teresa Giudice  64 votes
 Sonja Morgan  53 votes
Ramona Singer  53 votes
Caroline Manzo  50 votes
Countess LuAnn de Lesseps  47 votes
Nene Leakes  37 votes

An interview with Real Housewife of Orange County, Alexis Bellino has what I refer to as “Season Two Disease”  The same ailment that Sonja Morgan has….

You’ve been on the show now for a couple of years. It what ways has your life changed since starting the show?
It’s changed a lot in the fact that when I first came on the show I was kind of naïve and thought I was going to be friends with everybody. After a season of seeing everyone’s true colors and seeing how reality television works, it put a bit of a twist for the second year. You second guess yourself more because you think about how other people will perceive it. I’ve also just decided that I need to take more risks. I was very timid and scared to be confrontational during the first year. I was worried about what America would think, but I realized people are going to have different opinions

Big night on TV – Sunday night Real Housewives of Orange County to sleep through….er enjoy on Bravo!  Watch What Happens Live immediately following the Orange County snoozefest.  I’ll have your blog right here on both shows tomorrow morning.

Quincy will be blogging both Mob Wives (which I am catching in reruns and loving it!) and Celebrity Apprentice.  We’ve been waiting for weeks in anticipation of the NeNe blow up, looks like it is finally here.  Does Star Jones need a body guard?  Does NeNe quit because Star hires a body guard?  Find out tonight on NBC.

Until Next Time…

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230 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Weekend Update

  1. I said I would never watch the Housewives shows but now I am hooked on them. Why do I watch? To laugh and they honestly make me feel better about my life and budget!!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Why do any of us watch, right? Ironically, it’s a welcome break from reality. Mindless entertainment is good thing sometimes. 🙂

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        its like a train wreck you cant look away no matter how hard you try

        I still only watch for Alex & Ramona

        I only wish Ramona would realize exactly how much of a friend she has in Alex
        and its a real friendship not one of the fake ones have
        and is Kelly kidding us
        she is worried for her kids saftey being around Ramona

        it is a wonder that cps hasnt gone to HER home and investigates what goes on there

  2. quincyil says:

    I actually have two prime suspects for the lisanewengland gig. One is Darren and the other is a blogger who published AC interviews of Jill Zarin and Adrienne Malloof that got picked up by reality tea. That blogger has press credentials has therefore can get the DVD from Bravo. Darren can watch the DVD with Jill and blog the lisanewengland site without violating the contract as he is Jill’s employee.

    The way Jill complains and pushes lisanewengland to publish right away lead me to believe that Jill is ordering her employee to get their work done one time as Jill has instructed.

    Darren considers himself a writer if you look at his bio and what is out there on the web. His own twitter disappeared in Aug. when he got in trouble for the tweets about filming at Jill’s and Bravo did not want people thinking they had started filming season four.

    It’s the fact that lisa has a Vulcan mind meld with Jill Zarin that makes me think they are very close so Darren is the most obvious choice. The blogger is very busy, he is a publicist, book publisher, video producer, blogger, writer for several publications.

    Both men mention how they can’t stand negative comments on the housewives of Bravo. Darren actually states that part of his job is to manage the hate.

    As the unoffial pretend soothsayer of the IHJZ board, buy first guess is Darren and the second is the blogger.

    Either way, my gut tells me that Jill Zarin is controlling the lisanewengland site’s content and it is an extension of her Bravo and personal web sites blogs.

    • quincyil says:


      This is a fascinating look at Jill Zarin’s assistant. He gave up his career to be with her. They cry together. Their minds are in a Vulcan mind meld and they think each other’s thoughts.

      • quincyil says:


        This is the Jan. 23, 2011 blog that was posted while Jill Zarin was in that gorgeous suite after visiting a suburb on the North side for a fundraiser. We had just finished the RHBH so that show was on all of our minds and in our discussions.

        Lynn shared later in an open letter to Jill Zarin that Lynn had asked if they could talk and had told Jill that she would listen to her when it came to the title of the blog “I Hate Jill Zarin.” Here is the letter:


        In response to Lynn’s offfer to listen, Jill called Lynn “the hate blogger.”

        Jill Zarin was so frustrated that she reached out on twitter begging for someone to create an “I Love Jill Zarin” Blog. After days of waiting for someone to help her, I created the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog and the prairie by Quincy IL in which we try to say good things about Jill Zarin to help bring balance to the Universe.

        People who have been here all along know all of this, but we have a lot of new posters who might know know a lot of this history.

        Jill Zarin also wrote a comment to Lynn on Lynn’s board on New Year’s Eve and here is Lynn’s blog on this topic:


        Jill Zarin checked in from her expensive vacation in Aruba to ask Lynn what Lynn would do if Jill and Simon van Kempen made peace. Lynn talks to Jill Zarin in that post.

        This information is just a little background to why people here are interested in some of the behind the scenes people in the world of Jill Zarin. This is why people on this board note tweets from Jill and comments from her facebook. When Jill Zarin says, “the Haters, ” we have a strong suspicion that she is saying, “Hi,” to us.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Thanks for posting this, Quincy. I’m new to the blog so I did not know this history. Very interesting.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            LOVE Lynn’s letter. She really is amazing. Tracing the post back to Aruba? I can totally see Jill’s face when she read this. Good, good stuff. Thanks again, Q!

            • quincyil says:

              Jill sometimes reads this blog and the comments and then jumps up and down on her twitter shouting, “Off with their heads!,” like the Red Queen in Alice in wonderland. Generally, someone on the board will notice it and copy/past the tweet.

              The Letter to Jill Zarin by Lynn was published on the day that Jill came home from a Costa Rican Vacation. I think it was in the early evening that I checked the board and members here were discussion Jill’s tweets. She was going to punish all of the haters by blocking them.

              Then, out of the blue, a poster named, Rachel came to the board and admonished every one here. Rachel’s IP address had Sarah Lawrence on it. That is Aly’s school. We guessed that Jill came home read Lynn’s letter and called her daughter to upset her.

              We have had other reality stars pop in. Simon van Kempen came one day. Cat O read something recently and Lynn shared her DM on the board right away.

              Sonja had tweets to Lynn not long ago.

              This really is a place where the board members find intersting articles that make it into the blog. You can see it in the blog above. It’s a group effort.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                Yes, I love it! I think watching these shows is so fun, but this blog really takes it to a whole other level. Thank you for all you do. Really!

      • housewifeaddict says:

        While that was interesting to read, I’m not sure I believe his “background”. I doubt he have up a lucrative career to be one of JZs assistants. Except he may have hoped to get some camera time, like other assistants or side kicks – and saw this as a career move. One thing he’ll realize is that JZ has to be the center of attention, and if he does get any camera time or twitter buzz, he’ll be banished.

        • quincyil says:

          He seems to feel that she is the center of his universe.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I’m gagging!

          • fort lauderdale gay says:

            In the final scene of this week’s show, there is a preview for the next show. When Jill enters the restaurant where Sonja, Kelly and Squash Blossom are awaiting her arrival, Jill is accompanied by a man. Is that man Derwood (Darren)?

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          why doesnt anyone think its all made up and Jill herself is doing it under yet another fake name

    • Cusi77 says:

      I went to read Lisa’s his/her blog last night…. huwwww

      Lynn; You have created a REVOLUTION! Someone wants to be as successful as you are. Good luck… how long JZ fans (the three of them) will stand to read a liar. Time will tell!

      Whomever blogs is soooooo funny!
      He/she should have a very vivid imagination about what everyone has watched but with different eyes… both eyes in favor of JZ, KKB and the countless… I laugh to the tears! Not interested in giving hits to that blog anymore!

    • codystl says:

      The LNE blob must be written by Mrs. Brady because I cannot believe any real person would write something filled with so much saccharin. Who dishes that way?

    • @tweatcyn says:

      I’m pretty damn sure that Lisanewengland is actually, wait for it, Susan Saunders!

  3. Sus says:

    I’m really annoyed. Jill wrote something in her blog that I actually agree with. I hate that!

    I’m one of those people that hate the 4-wheeler – quad things. I think they are noise pollution and really dangerous, with helmets and without. Alex’s kids were wearing helmets to ride bikes on Governors Island. I wish they would have had helmets on during the quad rides.

    • quincyil says:

      Yes, I always wear a helmet when riding horses too. I don’t care that I ride Western, but I have an English helmet. That is what I have.

      I think Alex and Simon saw the trouble, but were unable to stop it as the child was long gone.

    • Cusi77 says:

      Sue_ do not be annoyed, girl. Sometimes Jill has common sense, I wish she would live more often in that part of her brain and less in her self absorbed mind, she would be happier and I wish her well.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Don’t feel bad. She is right. Even JZ has some good qualities.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          Jill wouldnt care if thier had been an accident and Alex’s son got hurt
          it was just another excuse to make people hate on Alex

          she is so transparent

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i dont think they knew ahead of time and Alex didnt look too happy that thier son was on it

      • Sus says:

        I probably shouldn’t even comment because I honestly think 4-wheelers are death traps, helmets or not. Maybe they didn’t show Alex getting the kids off it. If it were me, I’d be running and screaming after the thing to get my kid off it.

        • babykakes says:

          remember the almost fatal accident Ozzy Osbourne had while riding the same kind of vehicle? so lucky he was to have survived !

          • Sus says:

            I was going to bring up Ozzy’s accident but decided not to because he’s not exactly the best role model for safety. He was only going 3 miles per hour when he wrecked. He ran over a small rock and the 4-wheeler flipped. I really hate those things. They are loud and disturb nature. That’s before all the safety issues.

  4. I don’t know what show Jill has been watching but she hasn’t been watching RHONY. Season one was about Alex? Season two was about LuAnn? Season three was about Jill and Kelly? Huh? WTH? Kelly didn’t get too much airtime last season until she had her infamous meltdown. I find it interesting that she didn’t mention Bethenny or Ramona in her brief synopsis of the past few seasons. Maybe Bravo gives Jill a different version of the show. LOL

    • quincyil says:

      Those are direct quotes from the video interview conducted on the Brown campus.

      • Cusi77 says:


        Do you think that if JZ had 3,000 people in the audience she would just focus her camera in just her talk?

        The questions: (I think) 3-4 were very well distributed, one on her left, one in the middle, another to her right… like a crowded auditorium! Ha!

        • quincyil says:

          The Brown Symposium was created by their Mass Communications and Media Department. It was a true scholarly discussion with professors, writers, directors, television executives and one reality star, Jill Zarin, who appeared for a question and answer period. I could not find any student blogs or articles that mentioned Jill’s input. I’m sure the event was well attended.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Ironically, Jill and her scheming machinations made Season 3 mostly about Bethenny. Kelly went crazy so she got air time….but Kelly, with Jill hissing in her ear & encouraging her paranoia, went crazy about Bethenny and had to be repatriated to Manhattan in a padded jet.

      I wasn’t aware that Season 1 was “about” Alex or that 2 was “about” boring Lulu, although I watched both—just not through Jill-colored glasses which apparently also has excised Bethenny from her RHONY summary.

  5. Stella says:

    What I want to know is why would Jill say that Kelly blames Ramona for what happened on Scary Island since Ramona begged Kelly to go, when Kelly’s story was that Bravo producers made her go. Kelly even stuck with that story when Andy said it wasn’t true during the reunion.

    • quincyil says:

      Jill and Kelly are trying to say that we can’t believe what we saw on the television series.

      Ramona did want everyone to come to her renewal trip. Jill had planned a trip also, but Bravo chose Ramona’s trip so behind the scenes Jill tried to ruin Ramona’s trip. Bethenny stated this in the third season reunion. Bravo knew that Jill tried to get people to not film with Bethenny and now she was trying to stop people from going on Ramona’s trip and I bet they did tell Kelly that being filmed is part of being on a reality show.

      Jill is trying to change our minds about Scary Island. Jill wants us to believe that it’s Ramona’s fault because she wanted everyone to come and when Jill showed up, Jill was made to walk the plank.

      Jill is the eternal victim so she made Ramona, not Bravo, the bully. I think Jill belongs to a club that believes if you say it enough times, it becomes true.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        The eternal victim. I didn’t think I could agree with that more until I read what she posted in regards to hating her because of Alex and Simon. We are all friends with people who like people who we do not like. Everybody has their own opinion. So ridiculous at this point to be unable to take a look at her own behavior and try to place the blame on others when people do not like you.

        • Stella says:

          I think that one of Jill’s issues is that she projects the behavior that she is capable of onto others assigning them bad motives for their actions. She totally holds actions directed at her “friends” as grounds for attacking someone so she assumes we do it too. You are definitely right on about her and she doesn’t own up to her own actions, instead she plays the blame game.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Unfortunately I am very familiar with this behavior because I have a couple of relatives that do the exact same thing. As annoying as it is to the people around them, it’s even more sad for them because they never change or evolve as most people do when they get older and wiser. The inability to laugh at one’s self or take any sort of criticism a tough way to live.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Forgot to say, you nailed it regarding her projection of behavior.

      • Stella says:

        Thanks and you’re right

    • Sus says:

      Even if Kelly was forced to go to Scary Island by whoever, that doesn’t explain why she went BSC ! It seemed to me that the ladies really did well in how they reacted to Kelly on that trip. She was out of control! I didn’t think the ladies were egging her on either.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Remember we’re in Kellyland. This might be how it seems to her. Kelly is doing PR 101 – Keep your friends close, and enemies closer, and suck up to Bethenny so that she doesn’t say mean things about you. She agrees to go on the vacation, but is terrified because she knows that Bethenny isn’t play PR101, and really doesn’t like her. More than that, she’s convinced herself that Bethenny is “out to get her”. She tells all this to Ramona, who says, “don’t worry about it, I’ll be there.” Kelly reads this to mean Romona won’t let Bethenny “attack” her.

        Here’s where it gets fuzzy. Kelly forgets about PR101 and says all sorts of BSC things to Bethenny “you’re a cook not a chef” “you’re a hobag”, which causes much eye rolling among the others. Alex and Sonja do a pretty good job at ignoring Kelly, but Bethenny and Ramona don’t. They call her on her BS.

        Kelly feels that Ramona should have “protected” her, without realizing that she was causing much of the problem. I say much, because Bethenny and Ramona could have ignored her like Alex and Sonja did, but chose not to. It was only after they realized she was in a full-on meltdown (instead of just being incredibly rude) that they stopped reacting to her.

        So Kelly is now holding Ramona responsible for what happened. Even when she was explaining to the ladies what happened (at lunch s3) Kelly didn’t seem to realize that calling Bethenny a hobag was out of line.

        She has no idea that her actions are causing reactions. I’m sure there is a official diagnosis for what she has (assuming it wasn’t drug related). But it’s Kellyworld, and she lives in it.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. Kelly is delusional and you can’t argue with someone else’s delusion. That is why I think that Bravo is so irresponsible for bring her back this season. She really believes what she thinks happened and no matter what proof you offer her she will never change her mind. She really does live in Kelly land.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Like trying to have a rational conversation with a drunk person…

            • Mookies1mom says:

              Pretty much. Except in the morning they are no longer drunk, hopefully, and realize what they have done was not acceptable behavior. Kelly will never wake up unless she receives some kind of treatment and/or medication.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          “Bethenny and Ramona could have ignored her like Alex and Sonja did, but chose not to. ”

          the difference is that that Alex & Sonja werent being attacked by Krazy non stop as Bethenny was

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      and she gave Andy that obnoxious thing she says when she wants to stop people in thier tracks

      I apreciate that and i thank you
      but i was forced by bravos producers to go

      yeah sure Kelly just like the bravo producers came to Bethenny and told HER to stop bullying YOU
      thats why THE PRODUCERS removed you from the island

      your off your rocker

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Maybe she feels that since Ramona was the hostess, it was her responsibility to stop the other guests from being rude to her. That kind of goes out the window though when Kelly was even rude to Ramona, right? I think the real reason is that Ramona is friends with Bethenny and appears on her new show.

  6. kotagirl29 says:

    Shill is a spin doctor. If she doesn’t like or agree with something she spins it suits her reality. She doesn’t care if she has to spend every penny of Bobby’s money to do it, but as long as she thinks she looks good in the end that’s all that matters. We already know that the shows are edited for the most dramatic effect, but the words and actions still belong to the women. They can’t edit in what they don’t have.

  7. plainviewsue says:

    Wow, Lynn. What a fantastic and interesting posting!!! You really keep us all informed.

    That would be something if LisaNewEngland is really Darrin. I stopped following her cos I found her to be too boring and too up Jill’s ass. Jill had blocked me awhile ago, but Lisa still follows me. Maybe that’s the way Jill can still see what her haters say about her.

    Kelly has no reason to be mad about Ramona and Scary Island. Jill only sees and says what she wants to, and it always has to benefit her or her minions.

    I think I’m one of the few who is actually enjoying RHOOC. Maybe cos it’s been on the longest, I just like to see what they are all up to. While it is hard to be a fan of any of them, I still enjoy the show.

    I’m finding RHONY not as fun. I hate Louann more then ever and Cyndi totally needs to move on. Sonya disappointed in the first couple of episodes, but I still enjoy her.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I am also enjoying RHWOC. Mainly, like you mentioned, just to see what they are up to and how they have all changed since the beginning. Once I start on something, it’s hard to stop until it gets really, really, really ridiculous and boring.

      I’m mainly interested to see what happens with Gretchen and Slade. I think she’s getting ready to dump him. Oh, and Alexis and Jim. I’m curious to see how their foreclosure and her super bad attitude play out. Could you believe when she took the scissors to that woman’s dress? Poor thing.

  8. housewifeaddict says:


    Here’s another link for your research:

    For the rest of us a delicious read, as Jill was again outed for being a “mediawhore” – complete with email documentation.

    This led to this article:

    • quincyil says:


      I had never read about this before. I have seen photos of Jill shopping for shoes for Bobby, but I did not know that these were prearranged events. I live on the prairie where the parrazzi simply don’t exist. The people at that site seem bothered by Darren’s Sunday afternoon Jill Zarin events.

      From the way he begs, it sounds like the warlord, Jill Zarin, is demanding that he bother these photographers on Sunday and he really has to comply with her wishes. Giving them a free dinner is very nice.

      I have a video of Jill in my files where she said that Bobby and her family were going to help her turn all of season three around. That is part of her message at Brown where she said that each year of the reality show had a theme that they worked around.

      I am sure the Beverly Hills Managers and PR people attending Taylor’s roof top birthday party are doing the same things that Darren does for Jill. I wonder why only 33 people show up for her streaming interactions and she has to beg for more.

      They said Bethenny was a mediawhore, but I think Jill Zarin is trying to be number one in that category.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Did you read the second article? I don’t think she’s alone in this – but for some reason she’s ticking people off more than anyone else and they’re outing her.

        What I also found funny was the event she was trying to get photographed was lunch with LuAnn. The same LuAnn who turned up her nose at Alex’s efforts S1 to see if she made the society pages (after the opera). Yet LuAnn’s BFF begs photographers to snap photos of her to presumably end up in the paper. HA. I CALL BS on LuAnn!!

        • quincyil says:

          Now that you said that about Luann, I remember.

          Kelly must call people to photograph her in all of the bikinis in Florida too. How would reporters know to be on the beach at a specific time?

          I watched a TV recording of TMZ filming Jill Zarin when she was walking into Lisa Vanderpumps restaurant in BH. There was a discussion by a room full of young reporters and none of them thought highly of Jill Zarin.

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        She’s a media whore with pimps, but in Jill’s upside down world, the pimps work for the whore.

      • Sparkles says:

        I think in this case the publicist’s client was the restaurant. They wanted to get publicity by touting the fact that “celebrities” were dining there. That’s why they were able to offer a free dinner. Of course the restaurant probably got approval from a representative for the “celebrities,” who no doubt thought it a win-win situation.

        But I’ve seen elsewhere that Jill and other housewives have notified the press/photogs about their excursions in hopes of drumming up publicity. Celebrities/fauxlebrities do this all the time.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          A definite difference between a real celebrity and a reality tv personality – real stars avoid paparazzi at all costs while reality tv personalities seek them out. In case you and your “very, very famous” friends are in doubt JZ.

  9. ihearttalavera says:

    I love the way Jill had to mention that her friend who she was visiting used to live on her floor. With friends like Jill, who needs enemies? RAMONA doesn’t take social cues, JZ? Hello pot, meet kettle!!! For the love of all that is holy, this woman is so annoying.

    I hate that Kelly has everyone calling what happened on Ramona’s trip “Scary Island.” The only thing scary about the island was Kelly.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I thought they all called it Scary Island, because of Kelly. Kelly referring to it that was is very strange IMO. But I don’t expect much from Kelly.

  10. housewifeaddict says:

    This might be old, but interesting:


    Apparently Ramona didn’t go to Jill’s Skeezewear launch and according to a source was “texting people trying to get them to leave”. That sound like something Jill would do. I wonder if she was the ‘source’.

    The source is a gossip blog – so take everything with a grain of salt …..

  11. lovemamaearth says:

    Isn’t Jill past menopause? I doubt Darren would need to buy tampons.

    Thanks for the websites, Q.

  12. Adgirl says:

    Our family almost lost a most precious member yesterday. We rushed our beloved American bulldog Spanky to the vet early in the morning because she could hardly breathe. My husband had to carry our 85 lb old lady dog because she was too weak to make it on her own.
    We were stunned about how quickly her illness progressed. How could we suddenly lose our trusty shadow who shuffled & snorted from room to room behind us? She makes us laugh everyday! Spanky’s head is so huge and her markings so comical that people would drive behind our SUV they would honk at her bobble-head grinning though our back window at them. Kids wave at her on the street. She is fixture in our lives. We call her The Big Head, The Big Dummy, Schweinhund (pigdog).
    Getting to the point for you – Spanky’s coughing had been misdiagnosed earlier in the week by the “best vet in town” who was more in love with his instant diagnosis of “I don’t even have to look, I’ve seen this a thousand times! Her throat muscles are tightening from age.” than accuracy. “Give her a steroid if her tongue turns blue.” Huh?

    Wrong. Spanky had pneumonia. She nearly died. Today, after being flooded with antibiotics for 24 hours she is 1000% better.

    No one knows your pet better than you. Don’t let a vet get away with a mini exam. We knew there was something seriously wrong but tried to believe the vet.

    Spanky is now lying on her favorite bed on our patio in the sun. Snoring. Just like nothing happened.

    We’ll deal with the vet later this week.

    • klmh says:

      Glad she’s ok.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      I’m very happy she is doing better. As for the vet, he should be taken out back and shot. At the very least his office needs to pay for the emergency expenses you incurred due to his incompetance. Also I would tell everyone you know in town with pets that they should not visit his office anymore because he is an idiot.

      • vilzvet says:

        So glad Spanky responded well to the meds and she is okay.

        • NJ Bev says:

          @Adgirl so sorry to hear about Spanky’s horrible experience.
          It’s great your story has a happy ending. Please give Spanky
          a hug and a special treat for us!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Thank goodness she is okay! Thank you for sharing this story. I am a total dog person. We have our own grumpy little man. He’s a shih tzu mop dog and he’s now twelve. So we are so grateful for every day that we have with him. You are so right, that we know our own dogs better than the vets. Very important to remember for those of us who have older pets. Good luck dealing with the vet.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      So glad she’s recovering! I’m surprised at the “instant” diagnosis without any testing to support it. “Seen it a thousand times?” I never heard of what the vet was talking about. Has anyone else?

      An x-ray and blood tests would have shown what was really going on. That’s the difference between a medical diagnosis and something pulled out of someone’s ass who should know better. Bet you paid prime rate for “the best vet in town” too. That sort of thing really pisses me off. Drs & vets who are so confident in their own genius and “psychic” abilities that they believe diagnostic tests (i.e. science) are not needed. They can kill.

      Again, so glad you saved your lil buddy Spanky, Adgirl. Hugs to you & Spanky! 🙂

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Shoot. May have lost a longish post or it’s stuck in the spam can.

      Bottom line: Hugs to you, Adgirl & Spanky! So glad you saved her. 🙂

    • Adgirl says:

      Thanks everyone! Spanky is totally enjoying the extra attention!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      thank goodness she is ok now
      what a relief that must be to you
      I had my Cat for 20 years she was never sick always active never overweight
      And when she passed away it was a complete shock to me

      i was a mess i couldnt leave my room for a week
      couldnt talk couldnt do anything but grieve
      this was before Jimmy was in my life

      • NJ Bev says:

        @adgirl, this is my 3d attempt to let you know how glad I am
        that your story had a happy ending. Give Spanky a kiss.
        I hope this posts,

      • babykakes says:

        my heart started to sink as i began to read your post. i have 3 “four legged furry children”, as i like to call them, & my Shepherd is about 13 or older & i cannot even bear the thought of ever losing him. thank GOD, (DOG spelled backwards), he is in excellent health, except for ‘inflammatiory bowel disease’, but it’s at the least serious end & totally under control. i am so very happy you furry one is on the mend.. about 8 of my friends have lost their dogs in the past 1 1/2yrs. so sad..

    • Sparkles says:

      Thank goodness Spanky is on the mend!

    • NJ Bev says:

      @Adgirl..what a horrible experience for you and Spanky! I’m soo
      glad your story has a happy ending-give Spanky a big hug and
      a special treat for us!!

    • Queen Butter Bean says:


      I’m so glad Spanky is better! I agree with the other poster…that a**hole vet needs to be taken out back and diagnosed…I mean…I’ve seen it a thousand times!!!

      I hate any kind of doctor – vet or human – that’s in it for the money (as if that’s really possible anymore) and doesn’t take the time to know the patient…


    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      thank goodness Spanky is ok now, give Spanky extra hugs from me too!

  13. Happymouth says:

    So………..Cat is going to be interviewed @lisanewengland ?

    Lisa New England
    @catommanney Perhaps an interview for my blog? I’ve read that you support bloggers. I will ask about everything no holds barred. Up for it?
    13 hours ago via web replies ↓
    catommanney Catherine Ommanney
    @ @lisanewengland Yes that fine, I support the bloggers!I’m up for it
    28 minutes ago

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Cat probably has no idea that Lisa is Jill’s assistant (or sister). I’m sure the interview will not be a positive once after the way Cat blasted LuAnn. Oh well – she’s a big girl.

      • quincyil says:

        True, Cat won’t know it is a trap by a person associated with Jill. Jill might do this because of the Luann issue.

        I hope Cat O will be ok, but that is the Lion’s Den.

        • Happymouth says:

          You are probably correct :

          Lisa New England
          @catommanney Just curious why you went after @CountessLuAnn AFTER the live show? That wasn’t very courageous.

          • housewifeaddict says:

            Wow – objective journalism NOT. Cat won’t fall for this. All she has to do now is a quick google search and she’ll know what’s going on – especially with Q and Lynn’s timely blog.

            • quincyil says:

              Jill had tweeted a nasty comment about the demise of RHDC. Cat O responded that there was a movement to get her to go to NYC. That movement was here.

              Cat O, if you read this board. Be very careful of your dealings with anyone associated with Jill Zarin. We here believe lisanewengland is associated with Jill Zarin.

              Ooops… I will ask someone to alert her on twitter.

            • quincyil says:

              After having watched Jill Zarin be so cruel to so many people over the past few years, the thought of her plotting and trying to seek revenge against Cat O really bothers me. This is exactly what she has done in the show over and over. She goes to war.

              I try to be fair like the “I Love Jill Zarin” blog above and then I see the manipulation of real people and I think Jill Zarin has to be a horrible person in real life.

              • Happymouth says:

                I read all the time, but never post…..when I saw the tweets , I knew I had to post them here. Thanks for responding !

                • quincyil says:

                  Thank you so much, but you should share your thoughts as people here do welcome everyone. You don’t have to agree either. A lot of people here don’t agree with me and they let me know it. LOL.

                  The people who lurk and read all of the time are a part of this site too.


  14. Bloshka says:

    The point about the kids not wearing helmets and not being in the front of the mopeds (or whatever those were) is right. Dangerous!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Yes. I wish Bravo would stop showing that sort of stuff. I work for a local government, and we would never show kids riding bikes without a helmet on. It would be like showing someone in a car without a seat belt.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        I actually had a very bad wreck on a ATV many years ago. Back when the 3 wheel version was still around. I was extremely lucky that I wasn’t seriously injured. We were riding around in an area that had built up large hills. (It was supposed to become a water park but they ran out of money. A lot of people showed up on their dirt bikes to ride around as well.) I was at the very top of the hill and flipped over backwards. The next thing I know I’m face down it the dirt and my chin feels like it’s about 5 times larger than it really was. So, I was a bit dazed to say the least. Lucky for me that the ATV didn’t hit me on my way down and my only injury was a cut to my chin. I still have a scar. Scared the pants off my mom! Me too. I actually did ride again but only on flat ground. This was back when people really didn’t wear helmets but I fully advocate wearing them!

        • Mookies1mom says:

          I need more coffee! I just realized I agreed with Jill about something. But mine was from experience. I used to work in a group home with people that survived traumatic brain injuries or had psychiatric disorders.

  15. housewifeaddict says:

    Jill should follow the advice that has been given to her, and ignore Lynn’s blog. Every time she reads it or reacts to it, we laugh even harder. Although with 2,259,155 hits and rising, I can see why she is worried about this blog.

    “Jill On Dealing With The Backlash & Negative Press – “In the beginning I didn’t know what to do, if anything. So I asked some very very famous friends how they handle it. ALL of them told me the same thing. Don’t read blogs or negative press. So I try to ignore it. Unfortunately negative press comes with the job but the people close to me know who I really am and I try and not let others judgements about who they think I am affect me. Am I perfect? No…is anyone?” Very true!!”


    (This interview is from November)

    • quincyil says:

      It’s insane to read blogs if you are on a reality show. You just set yourself up for trouble. Going to war with a blogger is insane too.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        And this blog is mild compared to some of the other ones. Except for the title. The title was an exceptional move IMO. Simple – yet to the point. And putting it in every blog – brilliant!!

  16. Kansas Girl says:

    What an interesting blog today. I also spend a lot of time thinking about Jill and trying to understand how she can be as she is.

    As I was reading the blog and comments, several things caught my attention:
    Quincy: “JZ’s assistant feels JZ is the center of his universe.”
    Quincy: “Jill is an eternal victim”
    Quincy: I think JZ belongs to a club that believes if you say it enough times, it becomes true”

    These three things fit into what I’ve been thinking. We have several times postulated that Jill is narcissistic. I recently read a fairly detailed description of Narcisisstic Personality Disorder. ( http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/traits.html is the page that really caught my attention in realizing that I’ve just left a relationship with someone with this disorder.) Now, I am NOT suggesting that we know Jill well enough to diagnose her with any type of disorder. However, what reading that (and living with it) made me realize is that someone with that disorder lives in their own reality. They create a world of their own where their behavior is appropriate. I think it is very likely that the things Jill does we see as inappropriate, she thinks are perfectly ok. I think she is not capable of seeing herself from outside herself. She would actually believe that she is both the victim and hero, as she is the center of life. Her assistant would only get along with her if he accepted her as the center. And she would repeatedly state her truth because she is right and she cannot accept what doesn’t fit her own views. (Someone with NPD does not have the capacity to empathize or see other views except to see them as wrong.) Again, I’m not suggesting Jill has NPD, or that we try to figure out if she does, and am only using this as a jumping off point to try to understand her behavior.

    I’m pretty sure someone will slam me for saying this, but I believe every human has valuable qualities and Jill is no exception. I think Jill is a human being with worth. I don’t like some (many!) of her behaviors, and I try to understand why she does what she does. I think Vincenzo was trying to tell us this same thing. We need to look at the reasons for the behaviors and try to understand her rather than flatly condemning her.

    Thanks again Lynn and Quincy for this most interesting blog today!

    • quincyil says:

      Lynn has given her credit for actions at time. I know I try. For some reason, Jill Zarin is quick to temper and makes rash decisions that alway get her in trouble

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        Bethenny nailed it when she was in the kitchen of Jill’s old Hamptons house with Jill. She told Jill that she needed to stop over-reacting. That Jill always goes into full tilt war mode at the slightest provocation. I think she used the word Piranha. I think it was s2 e2 or s2 e3. Jill’s habit of going into full war mode is one reason she earned her most hated housewife status. She doesn’t play nice, and if you piss her off, she does everything she can to make sure you can’t play with her at all.

        • quincyil says:

          Was Jill originally from Staten Island?

          The Mob Wives seem to have some things in common with Jill.

    • babykakes says:

      i know people like her…it’s simple! they have to put others down & demean them to make themselves feel better & more important. they are really very lonely, sad, & insecure people..like Jill.

  17. TLM says:

    Wow. Fake Camille is just as boring as the real one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fs0mCGlV38&list=SL

  18. cabbie413 says:

    are people tweeting/fb’ing Cat to tip her off to what we all suspect about the newengland blog? I hope so!!!

    • quincyil says:

      I don’t have the power to do that, but I sent an email to someone and asked them to send our concern. Last weekend, she checked this board so maybe she will read your post.

      If Jill Zarin is here… I ask her to leave Cat O alone and find some other hobby.

  19. Kukulet says:

    My apologies – when I responded to Lynn’s blog initially, I hadn’t seen the WWHL episode yet, and I made the assumption that Cat had offered to comment on the ins and outs of royalty, titles, and what not. Sorry, Cat!

    That doesn’t change my criticism towards LuAnn, who continually holds herself up to be an expert on etiquette, when I can think of many, many examples on certain HW episodes where she behaved rudely and improperly. Don’t talk the talk, LuAnn, if you can’t walk the walk. And get over the Countess thing already, because it doesn’t mean crap to anyone but you.

    Remember the country you live in, LuAnn? Our forefathers fought a war to escape pretentious, meaningless titles, you know. How about showing some patriotism for your own country and some pride in your own nationality as opposed to simpering on about how Countessable you are? It’s pretty disgraceful for someone who claims to have Native American heritage.

    I’m Native American, too, and I’m prouder to be just “Ms.”

    Anyway…it’s a good thing that Lynn pointed out that Cat isn’t and doesn’t claim to be an expert, since I’m sure she’d had her fill of people who assume that simply because she has a British accent and kissed Harry once, she must know all that. (Yes, Andy Cohen, I mean you.)

    Have to add in my defense that being knowledgeable about the royals and British peerage doesn’t mean that I am “infatuated” with them. It’s simply a job. 🙂

    • quincyil says:

      I tried to google “Rosie Pope Baroness” and got a 62 year old Rosie Pope Baroness. Our “Pregnant in Heels” Rosie Pope is not that old. I thought it could be her mom, but had no links.

      I don’t know if Pope is her maiden or married name.

      From wikipedia, it seems barons are the lowest order of the peerage. I find it fascinating. If you ever see anything about Rosie’s line, could you share it with us?

      • Kukulet says:

        I don’t watch “Pregnant in Heels” – does Rosie Pope claim to be a Baroness herself?

        • quincyil says:

          Yes, the show was about asking Lord Wedgwood to be a godfather to one of employee’s baby. Rosie said that she was a baroness before she married her husband who is from a Southern US state. She came to this country and worked as a model. She went to college on an academic scholarship in neuroscience, but did not want to work in that field.

          If she had an inherited title, she would be able to keep it after marriage, correct? I speculated that she might have been married to a Barron like Luann and had the title until the second marriage but that is conjecture as I had no evidence for it.

          • Kukulet says:

            You’re right, Quincy: an inherited title remains the possession of the peer, if they are female, regardless of marriage.

            For example, Diana Princess of Wales was Lady Diana Spencer from 1976 until her death. After her marriage to Prince Charles, her married title of the Princess of Wales took precedence over the “Lady”, so that is what she was called, but the “Lady” remained one of her titles.

            So if Rosie Pope WAS a Baroness, but no longer is, it is because she married someone with the title and then divorced.

            I checked the British peerage listings, but there is no “Pope” listed among the British barons. If you learn the surname she used as a Baroness, it would be relatively easy to find out the background of the title.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              I have a question about Prince William and his new bride. When Prince Charles is crowned King will William and Catherine be Prince and Princess of Wales? It’s all so confusing!

              Also, I don’t remember Cat declaring herself an expert. However, I do remember her getting pissy in the after show videos, saying that she was the only Brit there when Luann talked out of turn to answer a question regarding the Windsors.

              • kotagirl29 says:

                I think it was the “good/bad for Britain game that Cat said she was the only Brit there so the only one who should determine if someone was good/bad for.

                • ihearttalavera says:

                  I’m sure you’re right. I have a terrible memory. Thanks!

                • ihearttalavera says:

                  Oops. My dog jumped up and I hit return before I finished… My point is that I do think Cat had a “I should know more because I’m the only Brit here and I’ve snogged Prince Harry” attitude and was therefore very embarrassed to be corrected by Luann. That’s when Cat got really ugly. I’m sorry but, I cannot stand Cat. I know Luann can be high and mighty, but sheesh.

              • Kukulet says:

                William and Catherine won’t automatically become Prince and Princess of Wales when Charles is crowned King. The Prince of Wales title is reserved for the eldest son of the monarch, but William will have to be vested with the title by his father.

                For example, Charles was born Prince Charles, but didn’t become the Prince of Wales until 1969, when his mother vested him with the title

            • kotagirl29 says:

              Kukulet you will probably be able to explain in more detail, but I found a site where Rosie is answering questions and mentions that her title came to her about 10 years ago when the new labor government (or something) started conferring titles to individuals for various reasons. Then her mom renounced the title for political reasons and that is why she is no longer a Baroness. If you would like to listen for yourself it is 3minutes 20 seconds into the video Q&A.

              • Kukulet says:

                I think what Rosie is referring to is a life peerage, but she really muddles the information.

                Life peerages are created by the Queen, and approved by the Prime Minister and a special commission within the House of Lords. It’s usually an award for services rendered to Queen and country. For example, most former Prime Ministers are Life Peers.

                The recipient of a life peerage holds the title of Baron, but a life peerage cannot be inherited by the children of the recipient.

                I’m rather confused by Rosie’s explanation-she says that SHE was created a Baroness, but her mother renounced the title. That makes no sense. Her mother would not be able to renounce a title that her daughter held.

                If the mother was a Baroness through a Life Peerage, then Rosie would never have inherited the title anyway, since such titles can only be held by the Life Peer. Their children only have the right to refer to themselves as “The Honourable So and So”, but the Baron/Baroness title dies with the parent. It’s not a hereditary title, it’s an individual award.

                • Kukulet says:

                  Adding on: went back and listened again…and Rosie has her facts wrong.

                  The “new” Labor government did not create life peers a decade ago, as Rosie seems to be saying. Life Peerages have existed since 1958.

                  Apparently, Rosie’s mother was created a Life Peer, and later renounced the title for political reasons. That would have made the mother a Baroness, not Rosie.

                  So Rosie’s claim that her mother’s life peerage was “how I got my title” is false. She doesn’t and never has had the title of “Baroness” herself.

                  Rosie also says that one has to be born “into the Royal Family” to be a Lord or Lady. That’s just ridiculous. There are hundreds of hereditary and life peers who weren’t born into the Royal Family.

                  • kotagirl29 says:

                    It confused me too. But it was the only information that I could find. I don’t know what her Maiden name is so can’t search it that way.

                    • Kukulet says:

                      Well, the interesting thing is that Rosie claims that her mother “renounced” her title-but there is no mechanism for renouncing or resigning a life peerage. Once a peer, always a peer. The mother can personally refrain from using the title, but that’s all. Whoever she is, she’ll still be listed as a Life Peer until she dies.

          • JONI says:

            Long time reader but due to elementry computer skills have never posted.Rosie Popes mother and . several others were given Baronages years ago.She later relinquished the title for political reasons. Enjoy your blog ! I was born and raised in Staten Island and later lived in Northern N.J.for over 20 years. Just retired after many years as a psychiatric nurse and I’m living in AZ. N eedless to say I’m very familiar with the housewifes and mob wife personas.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I think Cat hated that game so much she didn’t even think about her answers. And then to have LuLu correct her – oh too much.

      I thought they were going to do a show about the wedding. I didn’t realize it was just a WWHL on the eve of the wedding. The whole premise was silly – but that’s WWHL. Hit one night, awkward the next.

      I also think Cat was seething inside about LuAnn’s attitude (apparently she had just sat through 3 episodes of NY) and couldn’t hold back.

      I blame Andy for the fiasco. He sold them as experts on Royalty – but as Cat said, what qualified LuAnn as an expert – on royalty or on manners??

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        if you watched the after show it wasnt till Lulu started ripping into Alex that Cat went off on her royal nothingness

      • Adgirl says:

        I was really disgusted when LuAnn claimed the reason she was qualified to discuss etiquette and royalty was due to “15 years of living the life with them in Europe” or some other manure.
        Really. LuAnn. Stawp.

        • Kukulet says:

          I’ll believe that LuAnn knows something about etiquette when she actually displays correct behavior. In nearly every episode since the NYHW started, LuAnn has either violated the rules of propriety or been downright rude. Really, her knowledge of “etiquette” seems to be limited to what fork to use with what dish, and why one should wrap lemon slices in gauze, but doesn’t apparently extend to exhibiting any class in her behavior.

          Maybe she’s got one of them lemon slices up her butt. She certainly acts like it.

  20. Adgirl says:

    Jill. Jill. Jill.
    Somehow, I don’t really care anymore about your tragic need to be adored by the public. I’m not outraged anymore about your blatant retelling of history. I’m not shocked any longer about your very unusual actions of contacting posters directly, asking people to track down the employers of “haters” to get them fired. I’ve grown accustom to your sneaking around to pump up your book reviews and creating hokey love blogs about yourself. Everyone knows about your lawyers shutting up message boards and changing poll results. We all know you will stop at nothing to get your way – even if it means you might get a coworker or their spouse fired. We’ve all witnessed your atrocities and inexcusable behavior that has been filmed for our edification. Your crazed insecurity has increased your name recognition and the negative emotions people have towards you. Genius!

    What is Latin for “Love Me or Die”?

    You love the power you (believe that) you wield. Finally! Jill’s every move is chronicled by the press! Her fashion choices are discussed in detail. She even has a popular Hate Blog named after her. Jill makes the talk show rounds. She hobnobs with other (minor) celebs. She grants interviews. Jill develops brands.

    Behold! Listen up World! Witness the Fabulousness of Being Jill Zarin! Taa-daa!

    I say GO FOR IT. Jill! Jill! Eek out every moment of fun & fame. Enjoy the bright lights. You tell those nasty girls from high school look who’s the big tuna now! Because the end is near. Soon there will be no more Real Housewives and no more blogs named after you.

    Our next installment will be Where Are They Now? Will you will follow the footsteps of Elizabeth Hasselback, Lauren Conrad and Kate Gosselin or will you be an Omarosa or Heid Montag?
    Schadenfreude wants to know!

    • quincyil says:


      If Jill left the Planet Earth in an alien spacecraft, Lynn would have to come up with a new name for the blog.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Nah, the aliens would bring her back in short order. Even they wouldn’t be able to take her for long. 😉

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Hysterical. And so true. Good job.

  21. vilzvet says:

    Jill on Oprah…just thinking about how on Dancing with the Stars Lynn wrote about how she made Bobby SWITCH SEATS with her so she could get her mug on camera better. How moronic was that?! That was too funny. Let’s see how close up her seat is in Chicago…

  22. Mookies1mom says:

    This may have been posted here before but I just read it and all I can say is WOW. If it has been posted my apologies in advance.


    • dickens says:

      Reading that made me dizzy trying to follow her logic.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Hi Mookie! I saw your post and your photo, I promise I’ll get it posted as soon as I can! Thanks for your patience!

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Thanks Lynn! Post it when you can. It’s not like you don’t have anything else going on. 😉

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I started off thinking understanding her answers, but then got very confused. I did get out of it that she was trying to to let Alex and Sonja be isolated by the “mean girls” – if that’s what she means by precarious situations. I will say that Kelly will film with them all – and talks to them all. Whatever her issues are – she does try to be nice to people. (She’s no Jill Zarin – she’s just a little crazy and doesn’t know it).

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Kelly says “I spend most of my on-air time really consoling and talking and working situations out with these women. Because I’m not going to see anyone that’s around me-ever-in that situation.”

      When did that happen so far in this season??

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Oh, I believe that she believes that happens. But back here in reality is whole different ball game.

  23. killzarin says:

    Um, Lynn, you don’t like to hear anything negative either. I seen you delete comments.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      you “Seen” me delete comments? Where? I only delete if they’re attacking comments or vulgarity.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        testing testing testing. Why is it that such random visitors are typically grammatically challenged?

        Oh, not only that Lynn, “I seen” my ass stuck in your spam can, above. (I assume…or maybe they went into the ether of the internet?)

        Sorry ’bout that. I was trying to congratulate Adgirl on saving her doggy. I couldn’t log in & then could. WordPress is bullying me! (I’m making hardwood floor angels now.) 😉

        testing 😉

        • Adgirl says:

          Hardwood floor angels. LOL. You probably don’t have enough dust on your floor to make an appropiate angel. Come on over here.
          We can make a tribute video and send it to KooKoo. She’ll proudly tweet it to everyone.

          • Need a Hobby says:

            oooh, and we can make jewelry out of dust bunnies! (I’ve got plenty of my own, I prolly should do something about that today. Don’t think I can eBay them. Useless dust bunnies.) 😀

      • housewifeaddict says:

        There was one night on RCH blog where she went through and rewrote a troll’s comments – it was to die for hilarious. She made the troll sound absolutely crazy – especially with all the “real responses” in between.

        It was ages ago – but I still crack up when I think about it. Every time I refreshed there’d be a rewrite.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      That’s a pretty dress you are wearing.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      killzarin? Possibly the same Zarin who said she is jealous that her own daughter is attending college? Hmmm. I think I now understand why.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i think your wrong i have never heard anyone complain that thier comments didnt make it on the board
      sometimes they wont post if you use the f bomb
      but thats a filter that isnt Lynn

    • Karen says:

      This is one of my pet peeves
      The ‘I seen ‘ . When did this become acceptable ? It’s everywhere .

  24. Smompy says:

    Thanks for posting the new youtube spoof! I’d somehow missed that one. LOL’d at ALex’s modeling session and her big goofy laugh. And I liked Sonja’s indignation toward Alex at that “unveiling” party: Get OUT of my house! You don’t got no class!!!”

    Also, thank you to whomever came up with the name Squash Blossom for LuAnn. I’ve been calling her Countess Bootsy, but Squash Blossom is better.

    BTW is Jill’s daughter ever going to be on the show again, do you suppose?

    • jeepers1941 says:

      not if she is smarter than her mother

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      alexs laugh is goofy but love her all the more for it
      its a real laugh and not fake like some of the others on the show

      • Smompy says:

        I agree absolutely! That laugh is something that couldn’t be faked. Kinda like the way Ramona gets her words all mixed up when she’s trying to make a point…it ends up being endearing.

  25. jeepers1941 says:

    OK, will the REAL JILL ZARIN please stand………..LOL 🙂

  26. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Lynn im getting that email blog from Jill again LOL i think what happened was my acct thought it was spam

    LOL it should only realize that it should have put it in Trash where it belongs

  27. OneMoreInBoston says:

    wow- but no one misses me???

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      were you gone ???

      not trying to be rude
      I just thought maybe you went on a vacation or something
      welcome home 🙂

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        hi babydoll- no just been crazy for the last 3-4 days. Didn’t even get to see all of WWHL with Cat!

        Still catching up on all the posts I missed. Now it should only take me an hour or so for any other blog…but not Lynn’s- I’ll be slogging through the elebenty million posts for days!

      • quincyil says:

        I just realized that Harvey has opened the bottle of Skinny Girl Margaritas and is drinking with a straw from the bottle again. Last time, he actually fell off the sofa on to the floor.

        It’s going to be another long night at IHJZ.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          crap! is he making shag carpet rug angels again? he said he had rug burns for days from those!

          Well, at least he said the rug burns were from shag carpet rug angels 😉

        • HadEnoughofHarvey says:

          Harvey drinks too much. Drink some coffee quincyil it might just might give you courage. The land of OZ had a happy ending.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      um…I skerred!

    • quincyil says:

      Mob Wives are on in a while.. Then at 8 Central Lynn thinks Nene is going to flake out.

      • OneMoreInBoston says:

        Q are you posting about MobWives?

        • quincyil says:

          I am blogging Mob Wives and The Celebrity Apprentice for Lynn and the board. They will be up in the early morning. Later in the day, Lynn will add the OC and WWHL blogs and her research.

          There will be a chat opened for OC tonight.

          • babykakes says:

            can’t wait for the Celeb Apprentice blog..thanks ! i think i’m the only one currently blogging her on the west coast of L.A…only my posts are dated May 2..

  28. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Hello y’all!
    haven’t popped in – everything is crazy at work right now…

    Jill lived at the Atrium on Comm. Ave http://www.commaveassociates.com/caa3000.htm.

    When it was built around 1984- I went to go look at apartments there and had a few friends that lived there. It was an old Packard’s dealership and the name of the MBTA stop it’s located across the street from is Packard’s Corner.

    It was built to be one of Boston’s super ritzy deluxe luxury apartments. But it’s built on landfill . So my friend’s had to move out because the mice would come up through the dishwasher and to contend with monster cockroaches. And while the building was ritzy -the area wasn’t. My girlfriend’s were woken up every morning by the honking of the mechanic’s garage next door.

    Jill is so out of touch she’s still name dropping this building that, while nice, is basically Boston Univ. student housing with the requisite parties and noise. whatevs Jillsy

  29. quincyil says:

    Sorry if things seem out of order.

  30. HD says:


  31. ihearttalavera says:

    Ha! I think I will open a bottle myself. I loves me some Skinny Girl margaritas! Ah-mazing. A dream come true.

  32. Adgirl says:

    Mob Wives is pretty interesting. Especially if you’ve watched the Sopranos. It’s like watching Carmela waiting for Tony to get out of prison. I just wish the producers (or whomever) stops using the “survellience” FBI like intro to every single scene – like we are spying on them from the hidden cameras.
    I think it’s sad how the families live. Separated from us by the crime world. Like the family on Big Love mixed with military wives. Your status depends on the status of your husband or father.

  33. Adgirl says:

    Celebrity Apprentice. I heard NeNe can’t take the heat and slinks off. Trump hates that. I can’t see any of the women winning this season, except Marlee. Star is a dominating woman who sucks the air out of a room, and she keeps losing her tasks!

    My $$ is on Lil Jon taking it all. John Rich is very good, but Trump always has an agenda and a country singer ain’t gonna give him any political mileage.

    Lil Jon is very very talented on the business side. He’s the whole package.

  34. boston02127 says:

    Here lies Shanna a.k.a. Boston02127
    who died from studying and not having an ounce of fun.

  35. mariareads says:

    Gloomy day here in MD. I put the Crazy Island episodes on as background noise while I do other things but I have to say that so many things jump out at me that show how conniving and desperate Jill is and how absolutely CRAZY Kelly was! That lunch w/ Luann where Jill is pitching the trip to “visit” is so transparent. She couldn’t stand not being part of the group and hearing all that was being said. Kelly? WOW. I had forgotten how insane her behavior was. Satchels of gold? What IS that? I can’t believe that she would treat a pregnant woman the way she treated B. on that trip. We could say B gave as good as she got but I don’t think that was the case in this instance. Father just buried and facing a problem pregnancy and the stress of a wedding and Kelly is going BSC all over her. It was really ugly stuff. Jill is not a nice person. I don’t hate her but I do dislike the kind of woman she is. They are always trouble and ruin friendships for others as well as for themselves. …..Kelly is getting ready to turn her nose up at B’s food. Unbelievable.

  36. HD says:

    Dang, Mobwives is getting deep!

  37. Birdsong says:

    I feel deleting posts encourages the deleted poster to return. Just a guess.

  38. Raven says:

    Deleting posts might encourage your friend.
    Just a thought. Jen Sale is a saint.

  39. FlowerPower says:

    For Boston (sorry, don’t know the author)

    Now I lay me down to rest
    A pile of books upon my chest
    If I should die before I wake
    That’s one less test I’ll have to take.

    Good luck with your exams!!!

  40. AZ Girl says:

    @Boston. You keep up the hard work. I got two son’s banging out their last set of papers and working at their jobs. You go girl.
    @ Quincy. Thanks for the Mob Wives blog. I am intrigued but I just can’t get into the show. I will keep trying. Thanks for babysitting Harvey. You may need to install a lock on the basement door.
    @ Lynn. Thanks for all your hard work this weekend with the Royal Wedding and Jill Z being basically ridiculous. Darren is her bitch. We can only hope she fades into black.

    Hiked 3 hours yesterday and did not run into a rattler which is good. This is the time of year they are out on the trails.

  41. housewifeaddict says:

    Serious troll war on Really Old Housewives blog’s comments –


  42. cabbie413 says:

    i seem to have hit a nerve with lisanewengland on twitter – muhahaha

    @catommanney @lisanewengland Cat – don’t do it! the Lisa New England BLOG is none other than a @jillzarin BLOG – they’re setting you up!!

    @cabbie413 @catommanney Are you bothered by me interviewing Cat? Here’s an idea, mind your business.

    lisa (again):
    @cabbie413 Why not let Cat be your expert teams spy and check me out!!! LOL So funny

    @lisanewengland @catommanney Your “blog” is clearly biased and you aren’t a blogger at all – you are one of @jillzarin henchmen #kissmyass

    • housewifeaddict says:

      You go girl!! I suspect “Lisa” is monitoring this board right now – so “Lisa” – why not just give us a hint about who you are.

  43. ann little says:

    hi everyone! great recaps as always, L&Q!! And I LOVED the wedding chat! Sadly, I can’t participate in any live chats when the wives are on, I watch the shows a few days later when they become available online – I had to turn off our cable service to conserve $$$, shameful how expensive even a basic package is! Anyhow, I enjoy seeing the recap after RHNY airs, it gets me extra hyper anticipating online airtime…

    I agree with the above posters – Mob Wives is a gem. So sad to see how weighed down these women are by the lifestyle they are born into. I especially felt bad for Renee when she started bawling at the therapist, saying she never matters to anyone, isn’t in the picture. As a shy, introverted person this resonated with me on so many levels. All the other women are interesting, too. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be in their shoes, but it certainly makes for interesting TV.

    Jill, Jill, Jill….she’ll never change. But her self-absorbed blogs and newsletters make for great comedy:)

  44. Error404 says:

    Oh no she didn’t! I can’t belive Star jus tbasically called all black women without college degrees ghetto.

    • mariareads says:

      I KNOW!! And she’s talking huber trash right now! Nene that is! What the hell!

      • Error404 says:

        It’s officially now bad taste night… Nene, Star, then Lil John says he’s pimping the models, la toya wants back on, hope wastes time shopping for himself, and niki comes back to help the guys win!?!

  45. cabbie413 says:

    i seem to have hit a nerve with lisanewengland on twitter – muhahaha

    @catommanney @lisanewengland Cat – don’t do it! the Lisa New England BLOG is none other than a @jillzarin BLOG – they’re setting you up!!

    @cabbie413 @catommanney Are you bothered by me interviewing Cat? Here’s an idea, mind your business.

    lisa (again):
    @cabbie413 Why not let Cat be your expert teams spy and check me out!!! LOL So funny

    @lisanewengland @catommanney Your “blog” is clearly biased and you aren’t a blogger at all – you are one of @jillzarin henchmen #kissmyass

  46. OneMoreInBoston says:

    oh my…getting a little dizzy. Make the ferris wheel stop please.

    • HadEnoughofHarvey says:

      This is a circus. A frigging circus.
      Go ahead and hate me.
      Get off the wheel – wheels are for gerbils. As a rodent I would know.

      WaterDancing…. is like writing a blog in that people think you walk on water.

  47. NJ Bev says:

    What is happening(or not happening) tonight??

  48. MichellefromNY says:

    This quote from kelly in an interview, stood out to me:

    ‘And she’s saying, “You have to be here at 7,” and I said, “Don’t worry about it, I’ll be there. Calm down.” So I spend a lot of time telling people just to calm down.’

    The reason is cuz my third grade creative writing notebook looks exactly like that. The circular logic, the strange compiling of sentences interspersed with SAT vocabulary words–I wrote exactly this sentence, I’m dead serious.

    It all makes sense. She may have intelligence– kelly can keep her beloved columbia degree–but psychologically and mentally she hasn’t aged past 8 years old. So kelly, guess what, you’re a brainiac eight year old. Congratulations.

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