IHJZ Real Housewives Of Orange County / The Celebrity Apprentice / Mob Wives May 8,2011

I Hate Jill Zarin  The Real Housewives of Orange County by LynnNChicago

I am so disappointed in this season of Orange County, I can’t even hate any of them because I don’t care enough about any of them. 

Tonight Tamra meets with Lynne Curtain just long enough for us to hear that Lynne is keeping her husband busy, “Bless his heart”.  They are doing great, Tamra doesn’t ask Lynne about her teenage delinquents who were filmed dancing topless with Hello Kitty pasties on their nipples.  Lynne and Frank continue to be blissfully unaware that their children are headed for disaster.  Lynne tells Tamra that Fernanda was upset and told her about the kiss between Tamra and Fernanda last year on Tamra’s birthday.  This storyline is so exhausting it just gives you a headache. 

My theory, when Tamra kissed Fernanda in the bathroom at her birthday party, Bravo/producers thought that this woman would make a great 6th housewife.    Damn that Tamra for going and finding a man to love and dump Fernanda.  Later in the episode the two ladies meet over drinks and their NOH8 photos and all is well again. 

The Mean Girls

The more I see this Peggy woman, the less I like her and we’re really running low on like for this one.  Her one episode on postpartum depression did make me feel for her a bit but she seems to have found a cure for it, slamming other people, judging other people and drinking huge amounts of wine while backstabbing your friends seems to have done the trick.  Peggy spent a lot of time with the two mean girls, Vicki and Tamra and suddenly Peggy is one of them.  She’s ready to throw her friend of 6-years under the bus. 

I have no love for Alexis but Peggy was her friend.  Best we can tell it was Alexis who got Peggy onto the show, the first thing Peggy did was stab Alexis in the back.  The one thing I will give Alexis is that she doesn’t attack the other ladies the way they go after her.

Peggy tells us that she and her husband used to double date with Alexis and Jim Bellino but that things have changed and recently Jim has been making snide comments to Peggy’s husband Micha.  I know my husband and his best friend argued just the other week about who knows more about Lamborghini’s, I think it really is a deal breaker.  Peggy is the Jill Zarin of the OC, she slams below the belt.  Her talking head interview says, “As long as I’ve known them, Jim’s never really had a real job”.  Yet to Alexis’ face Peggy says, “Jim’s always been able to set his own schedule”.   Love Jim or hate him he has to be making some money some how, Peggy’s husband’s job seems just as dicey as Jim’s.  Peggy’s point was that Jim should have been at her dinner party.  Did you really miss him Pegs?  Does he add that much to the conversation?  Did it screw up your seating arrangement?  In one breath Pegs tells us that big bad Jim was mean to her husband then she complains that he skipped her dinner party. 

Alexis confesses that she lied, Jim wasn’t busy with work he simply doesn’t want to be around these women.  Peggy passes along that information to Tamra and Vicki.  Peggy criticizes Alexis for lying about the whole thing but wasn’t Alexis lying to avoid hurting people’s feelings?  Not that anyone really cares what Jim Bellino thinks but come on, it wasn’t a lie anyone really cares about except Alexis and Jim. 

Alexis apparently feels that her new dress line is complete and she decided to be photographed wearing each of them for what I can only assume are ads for the dresses.  I’ve never seen a dress designer wear her own clothing but I’m sure Alexis knows what she’s doing, bless her heart.  When her husband Jim arrives to “help” with the shoot things go from bad to worse.  I don’t know where he gets his education and experience in photography/modeling but he decides to begin to direct the shoot and only serves to annoy the hell out of everyone.  Alexis tells us that he’s funding the entire project (no kidding) but regardless of who’s paying the bills, the bible tells Alexis that she must obey her husband so when he tells her to stick her ass out for  the photos, she has to do as she’s told.  I am pretty sure that’s what the bible author’s had in mind, don’t you?

In the nothing new department, Vicki treats Donn like garbage, he tells her he’s happy she is home and cooking in the kitchen, she ignores him and tells him she’s going out and that they won’t be eating for a long time.  She then tells the audience (rather than telling her husband) that she’s angry with him because he drank too much at Peggy’s party and acted like an ass.  It was actually Vicki who acted like an ass but that is who she is.  Her cackling with Tamra, slamming her husband and blaming him for not having any children was typical Vicki bad behavior.

I have to thank Slade’s mom for popping in for a visit, she was able to say everything that we’ve all wanted to say to him for months.  She asked about his job beyond carrying Gretchen’s luggage and he told us that he’s a consultant and that his last job just ended two weeks ago.  They say mom can always tell when you’re lying, Slade’s mom is no different.  She pushes Slade and suggests some other jobs that he might be good at, of course he immediately dismisses her suggestions.  Slade tells us that he made his first fortune in the mortgage/title business and Mom says that the industry is coming back.  For every mortgage lost, there are plenty of people refinancing or doing short sales, both of which need mortgage closers/title officers to handle the deal.  Slade continues to insist he can’t go back into that business leading me to believe that there is more to it than just a declining market. 

Slade and Gretchen travel to San Antonio Texas so that she can appear on a talk show to sell her handbags and make up line.  I have to give her credit for attempting to go and get what she wants, she does seem to be working hard to try to make this work.  That said, she seems to be stuck in a dead end relationship, I know she claims to love Slade Smiley but she wants children yet doesn’t want to marry him, that says it all doesn’t it?  If you truly love the guy and want to have kids there would be no hesitation. 

I’m trying very hard to like any of these women but it’s really difficult, when they’re so vicious and mean, Tamra is just low class trash and Vicki only wants what Tamra has right now and thinks that by leaving Donn, she’ll have a hot latin lover too.   Peggy and Alexis are really complete idiots and can battle over who has more money, better educated children and more loving husbands but in the end, who cares?  Only the two of them.  Gretchen seems to be distancing herself from the down and dirty feuds but then we come to find out we don’t care about what she’s up to.  This show has really gone downhill.

The Celebrity Apprentice by Quincy

There were 3 hours with two challenges.

Lil John gave his check to the United Methodist’s Children’s Fund manager for $80,000.

In the first five minutes, we are shown the confrontation between Nene and Star from the previous episode and are shown their interaction in the board room which resulted in the firing of Hope. We watch Nene and Star leave the board room together. Nene wants to discuss what has happened with Star, but Star slips into the elevator alone and leaves. Nene shares with the remaining cast members.

The next day, Mr. Trump addresses the group then he talks to Nene about the dispute that she had with Star Jones. Because he feels that Nene and Star are unable to work together, he place Nene on Backbone with LaToya, Lil John and John Rich.  Meat Loaf went to ASAP with Marlee and Star. 

In an interview, Star tells us that she was not concerned about going to Nene’s level, but was afraid that Nene would take her to Nene’s level. (Last week Star stated that this was not “The Real Housewives.”)

The teams will create a campaign for a new product from On Star.  For the first time an add-on unit will be available in Best Buy.  They will create a live comedy show with an audience and each team will select 3 comedians. They will sell 50 tickets for as much money as they can raise.  Jim Cramer, a television stock market analyst and close friend of Mr. Trump, will judge the contest. 

The original men’s team meets the next day and they begin to make calls. La Toya is having problems reaching people. John Rich is very successful. After a while they discover that Nene is missing and they discuss this throughout the day.  John Rich wants to make a song and they agree.  He calls Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy will help. After hours, Nene texts La Toya to tell her that she was not coming back. The team is frustrated.

The women’s team ask Tracy Morgan to make a video to help them and they will film at 30 Rock.  Tracy made fun of Star on Sat. Night Live and she was a good sport so he wants to do this for her. Jim Cramer feels that a video is not good enough. He would have asked Morgan to come to the show. Star creates the video. She and Meatloaf have issues.

Nene is observed in a cab leaving. Mr. Trump talks to her on the phone and warns her that others who quit were called names. Nene leaves and feels that she was treated unfairly. Nene tells Mr. Trump that you accommodated Star Jones.  Mr. Trump says, “Nene you are fired.”

The teams select the comedians after watching them perform. Star does not laugh or smile.

The teams call their friends who have already donated great sums of money.  Kathy Hilton gives La Toya another check for $1,000 and La Toya does not push for more.

On the original women’s team,  Meat Loaf is working for Paint the Turtle Charity so he calls backers he knows from that charity to help. He becomes emotional fearing that he is gambling with money from the charity. Star calls Mr. Trump and asks if they can have a guarantee that Painted Turtle will receive the money that Meat Loaf raised. Mr. Trump said the rules are that the money goes to the winner and he wants them to work hard and win.

La Toya  and Meat Loaf act as Masters of Ceremony for their teams.  Jimmy Fallon tells jokes and gives $10,000 to the men’s team coffers.

In the board room, Meat Loaf is very upset and near tears.  John Rich will pay Meat Loaf charity whatever Meat Loaf raised because they are friends.  Meat Loaf thanks Mr. Trump for the opportunity and says that it made him a better person. La Toya raised: $82,500. Meat Loaf raised $102,080. Meat loaf’s charity will receive $184,580.

La Toya’s team stays in the board room. She says the men did well. Lil John says she was the project manager and she failed to raise  money so she should be fired. Mr. Trump fires La Toya for the second time.

The Celebrity Apprentice

(Second challenge of the evening)

The next challenge was to promote a new product for On Star.  A unit is available at best buy to add on the security of On Star to your vehicle for the first time.  Before this it was only available in new cars. They will strive for creativity/originality, product integration, and brand messaging.  On Star was created in 1995.

John Rich and Marlee Matelin will again compete as project managers. 

The teams will create a video. They will write, film and edit

The men begin to create a script.  John Rich is sick with what he thinks is a sinus infection. Lil John feels that the burden is on him to win this challenge.

The studio has a white screened background and a crew with experienced cameramen.  Marlee’s team will have a police help Marlee find her car after Star who portrays a representative of On Star locates it and then they all go to a donut shop.  Marlee, whose husband is a police officer, likes the idea of that an officer helps her get her stolen car back

The men’s video will feature Lil John and two other women.  Lil John’s rap format will be the form of the message.

The executives of On Star like the videos, but have concerns.  On Star looks at policemen as heroes and the executive of the company hate the donut shop idea. They feel that Lil John is too enthusiastic and a woman in a vehicle did not have her seat belt on so they can’t use the commercial as they stand for safety.

In the board room the men don’t like the video of the women’s team. The women like the video of the men’s team.  John Rich and Lil John leave after they are told that they won the challenge and received $40,000 dollars for John Rich’s charity, St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital. The total for this charity at this point was $690,000.

Star, Meat loaf and Marlee remain.  They discuss their assigned tasks and then leave. While out of the room Meat Loaf becomes upset with Star and he shouts. The actual product was filmed, but edited out of their video.  They blame each other for the mistake.  They return to the board room. Mr. Trump asks what the fight was over when they return and Meat loaf accuses Star of lying.  Mr. Trump asks who was in charge of branding and the answer was Star, so he fires Star.

Mob Wives by Quincy

It’s night on Staten Island.  We hear sirens and see flashing lights.  It is the day following the mob bust and Renee is very upset.  Her world has been turned upside down after the arrest of Junior, her ex-husband. Renee went to a bar alone and engaged the bartenders in conversation. They had a newspaper with information on the mob arrests. 

Renee finds out that Junior was arrested for gambling and his lawyer believes the sentence will be only 18 months.  She comments on the nice pictures of those arrested.  Renee hates having loved ones in prison because it means long trips to visit them, phone calls from the prison and there never is a Sunday dinner with the whole family because of the Feds.

Renee shares that her son AJ is devastated. She would like a normal life for her son. 

Renee feels abandoned by her friends so she decied to have a psychic party.  She wants to know what her future will bring. She sees a psychic every six months.

Carla meets with Drita and they discuss Renee as they walk outside.  Drita decides to text an apology to Renee.  She states that she offered to visit Renee two times on the day of the mob arrest and was told not to come to visit, but she knows that was a mistake and the it bothers Renee.  Drita has a temper and everyone is aware of this fact.  Renee and Drita have not resolved the issues that caused conflict during Carla’s birthday party too. Carla and Drita discuss Renee and Karen’s “friendship.”

Karen likes Renee as they have similar life histories.  Karen has issues with Drita because Drita married Karen’s ex-boyfriend, Lee.  Karen and Renee hug other.  Karen enjoys teasing Renee about Drita’s attack at the birthday party which upset Renee so much that she cancels a dinner with Drita minutes before they were to get together.  Drita tells us that “Renee is a drama queen.” We learn that Lee and Drita like to “play Mafia.”  They enjoy violence and threatening people.

Carla is with her twin six year olds, a boy and a girl.  She is at the end of her limits with her son who is disobedient and not respectful of Carla.  Carla blames her husband’s absence for the behavior of her son.  During a phone call with Carla’s husband, Carla shares that Jo Jo is out of control.  The father threatens the boy from prison saying that when he gets home the boy will obey.   The six year old boy say, “Boring, boring, boring.” The father, Joe, is coming home soon.

Drita was getting dressed when her date with Renee was cancelled so she calls Carla to go out for a drink. The two meet and share a table where they go over all of the events of the recent past. Drita concludes that she needs to meet with Renee and resolve their issues.

Renee goes to see her therapist Kelly. She is unable to say, “No,” to Junior, her ex husband.  The therapist reminds Renee that Junior decided to divorce her. Renee knows she has a co-dependent behavior. She allows her ex-husband to stay at her house even though he has a girl friend.  Renee feels that she is losing sight of herself.

Carla wants to invite Drita to Renee’s psychic party, but Drita knows she was not invited.  At the party, Karnen and AJ get readings. The psychic thinks that Karen is looking for something and AJ is missing someone.  She talks about moons in Aquarius and Scorpion lashing out with it’s stinger.  Renee is nervous and smoking, but she decides to break from Junior who is a Scorpion.

Drita is a Aquarius so Renee is going to have to deal with her too.

Carla is home discussing her husband in prison with her mother whose husband is in prison. Carla’s mother states that it is “no big deal” so Carla should tell the kids that their dad is in prison. 

Drita and Renee meet and the both manage to control their tempers long enough to discuss their underlying issues and decide that they should come to terms. Renee admits that she has a horrible mouth and Drita admits that she has a bad temper.  Neither of them will back down.  Drita then apologizes and so does Renee. They decide that they are both women under stress at the end of the day.  They both order “Crazy Momma “drinks.

Karen and Renee are bonding in a bar when a drunken Irish man begins to ask sexual questions of Karen. She ignores him, but Karen comments and he tells her that she needs to lose 30 lbs. Renee and the drunk have a verbal fight and she warns him that he doesn’t know who she is.  She calls Junior, her ex-husband, on the phone and says that this man is disrespecting her.

Karen warns Renee that Junior is on bail and he could get in trouble if they call the cops so they both go to the parking lot to fret until Junior arrives in the large white car. He is angry and Renee reminds him that he is on bail. He speaks to the drunk.  We don’t know what he says, but the drunk apologizes right away to Renee.  Renee is happy because she thinks Junior still loves her. Karen is impressed that Renee could call Junior and he came right away.

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421 Responses to IHJZ Real Housewives Of Orange County / The Celebrity Apprentice / Mob Wives May 8,2011

  1. boston02127 says:

    Thanks for the recaps. I missed C.A. and Mob Wives. I can’t keep up lately.

    (from last blog)
    Good morning. ☼ New day and the birds are singing. Thank God. It was a tough weekend. I kept away from the blog yesterday because I tried to keep busy and I didn’t want to be the Debbie Downer. I hope all the mom’s on here had a day full of love.

    Last night I fell asleep during the OC last night & missed WWHL. When I don’t read the blog for a day or two I always expect to come back and read something like “former model Kelly Bensimon shocked after sticking a bobby pin in an electrical socket” But I can only dream. (kidding)

    It’s final exams week at school. Busy week. Hope everyone is good.

    • VAgirl says:

      Good morning, Boston. Sorry your weekend was so rough. These times will get better, but you’ll always miss your Mom on special occasions. I felt sorry for my hubby yesterday since I know he was thinking about his mom. Good luck on any final exams you may have this week. It will soon be over. Do you take classes in the Summer or do you take a break from school?

      • butterisafruit says:

        Good Morning VAgirl and Boston.
        I know Mother’s Day had to be rough for you Boston. I was thinking of you. I seem to go to a quiet place every Mother’s Day. I was thinking of you.
        It dosn’t get better so much but you do handle it differently as time goes on.

        Love
        Mary Ellen

      • boston02127 says:

        @VAgirl—Thank you. I’m taking 3 classes this summer and one is online. So I won’t be as busy and I’ll have a little more time to myself. I’ll be glad to get away from all the homework for a while.

    • quincyil says:

      Good luck this week.

      Q

    • FlowerPower says:

      Good luck this week, Boston. Was thinking of you yesterday–I tried to stay busy and outside. These first holidays without mom are really hard (Easter was my mom’s favorite).

      Hope all goes well with your exams.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      It does get easier with time Boston. Big hug!

    • Zoey says:

      That reminds of a conversation I had recently about NOT ever sticking a knife in a toaster when your toast gets stuck. I just assumed everyone must have heard this at some point in their life growing up, but a good friend, who is a chemist with a master’s degree, said he didn’t know that! I read somewhere that 22 people die each year doing this.

      So- safety message to all, including Kelly B.- don’t do this!

      Good luck with exams Boston!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Jimmy keeps telling me that there are guys online looking to have sex w/o condoms on purpose (they reason they can possiably get hiv if they dont complete the act and pull out)
        how many unwanted pregnancys got thier start that way in the 50’s
        there same types of people are the ones that never heard about sticking a fork in a toaster
        how do people in this life get to be so dumb

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          sorry was supposed to read They Reason they CANT possiably get it unless they complete the act

  2. okeydoekey says:

    That CA was way too long. They overhyped Nene’s behavior. She was much more tame in her fight with Star than she ever is on RHOA. The biggest shocker of the season was not Nene but Meatloaf. What a poor imbalanced man.

    Mob Wives. I just can’t get into this show. Really tried it’s so popular. Grown thug woman talking about jail and bail money.

    Bethenny on WWHL most revealing part is she likes Slade. Ewww! Not use to a PC Bethenny.

    • MichellefromNY says:

      I like slade too. I know i know he is slimey and he has a reputation plus he doesnt pay child support and is a deadbeat, buuuuuuut, theres something about him this season, he is just i dont know, sweet? I think i started liking him after the birthday painting thing for gretchen. I just found it sweet. Yes gretchen wanted diamonds obviously, but i just found his present to be endearing. I dont know whats come over me, but sometimes you cant choose whom you love 😉

      • MK Valle says:

        My opinion of Slade has changed as well, mostly because my opinion of Gretchen has changed. I thought she was a bimbo gold digger but I don’t think that at all. I think she’s the most likeable and dare I say “normal” woman on RHOC. She loves Slade but is smart to know that it’s not a good idea to marry him, at least now. I totally believe her about his support payments, I’m sure they were very high when he was making lots of money and I agree that they should be lowered. Slade loves his son but is in a bad position with his employment problems. Folks, in this economy it’s extremely difficult to find a job that pays well, at least it has been for Slade and for me.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          I agree 100 per cent
          its not like Slade decided to make his work go belly up
          lots of really good people are finding themself without a job at the moment
          people that worked for the same company almost enough to get a pension but have it pulled out from underneath them
          I liked Slade when he had money i like him now i think he is trying to do the best i can
          all teh people that were so upset that he dated several of the housewives never take into acct of course this is who he was dating these were the women in his life at the time

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      they always over hype for ratings
      Nene was supposed to be like a wild animal out of control if you go by donalds words
      and all the posters that said she had anger management issues
      well anyone watching her on CA would have to admit she doesnt fit that description at all
      thankfully i hate him and the show enough not to care too much that she quit
      after the disgracefull way he was treating our President i will never watch his rubbish again
      just liek i never watched American Idol after they let go of Paula
      who by the way is Joining Simon on his new show,showing he really did have Loyality to her all along

  3. VAgirl says:

    Thanks for the recaps, Quincy. Ne Ne is a quitter and a loser. She couldn’t control or intimidate the people around her so she just left and went on a twitter attack instead – coward. She was way out of her league. Meat Loaf is just weird will all the theatrics. Star got caught in a lie and it was time for her to go. I’m glad she’s not in the final four. I am actually pulling for either Lil John or John Rich to win. As for Mob Wives, that is just a fascinating show. I know some of the scenes are set up, but I have no doubt that their lives are really like what is portrayed on TV.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      NeNe has many fans and there will be many excuses regarding her leaving CA. Bottomline: Winners never quit and quitters never win.

      • quincyil says:

        I think that more went on behind the scene. When Star left Nene after the board room firing of Hope, Star went off in the elevator alone. I think she contacted Mr. Trump.

        Hope said that Star hired security to protect her from Nene at some point. I think that Mr. Trump realized that there was an issue of safety at this point and changed Nene to the men’s team.

        In the cab, Nene told Mr. Trump that he accommadated Star.

        Nene has been quiet about this, but I suspect she will be giving her side in interviews after watching last night’s show.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Or her twitter version. I hope she doesn’t get into a huge fight with Trump. Neither would back down.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          i think that is all just bullshit
          if Trump was worried about Nene and what she might do to Star why keep her on the show why not just remove the problem
          Knowing what a snake Star is she made up some lie about Nene and “needing protection from her” made sure Nene knew that she did it and the rest was history

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        I quit a job where i was constantly stressed out and started working for myself
        i made twice as much with no one to answer to
        I won

    • lovemamaearth says:

      And a bully.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        there are lots of bullys on CA
        Donald
        Star

        to name two LOL

        • lovemamaearth says:

          lol Could be. I just remember Nene bullying almost every one on Atl who crossed her. Nene is why I quit watching Atl. 😦 –Although Kim’s icky pregnancy would have turned me off that too. lol

  4. VAgirl says:

    My hubby watches Imus every morning and he (Imus) was just slamming Bethenny Frankel saying she was an OK guest, but she was a little princess and horrid in the Green Room. I know how much most of you like Imus – LOL! It seems that when people finally reach their goals and make good, everyone wants to tear them down. It’s like I said about Jill being on the top of the pecking order in NYHW. Even if you’re at the top of a heap of doggy doo, people want to tear you down.

    • VAgirl says:

      By the way, Imus is talking to Chaz Bono on the phone and he definitely sounds like a guy. I thought it was a guy and when I heard him say he was talking to Chaz Bono, I thought wow, his transition sounds complete.

      • Kukulet says:

        Wasn’t Imus the one who made all those racist remarks on the air about the Duke University students? (I think it was Duke?) Amazing they still allow him to say anything. I don’t know if I’d trust his opinion about Bethenny-Imus has a way of provoking his guests to try and nail them, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried that with Bethenny. It’s always been apparent that if you snark at Bethenny, she will snark back-she’s not a Pollyanna.

        • VAgirl says:

          Rutgers.

        • kbinldo says:

          it was the women’s basketball team that won a national championship. he made racist comments about their hair & was dismissive about their achievements.

      • error404 says:

        What shocks me about Chaz is not how much he sounds like a guy, but how such he sounds just like his dad. During one commercial I thought it was a quote from Sonny they were playing, only to find it was Chaz speaking!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Chaz sounds like Gary Shandling LOL

    • Maryla says:

      Imus doesn’t seem to like strong women. What does he call Secretary of State Hillary Clinton? Certainly not words he would use for men in that post. And lets not forget his remarks about the Rutgers women’s basketball team. I don’t think being a female insulted by Don Imus is that big a deal.

    • PJ says:

      I listened to his interview with Bethenny and it sounded like it went really well, they seemed to like each other. I thought she was a great guest, very engaging. I wonder why he is saying this now.

      • Lavalady says:

        I think his wife dislikes Bethenny. And she is influencing him.

        • @tweatcyn says:

          I’ve never heard IMUS (outside of this board) and have no clue what channel or station he’s on. I do recall people here saying he tried to get B to bash JZ and she wouldn’t go there, though the opposite happened when JZ was on.

      • Sus says:

        I saw the Imus and Bethenny interview. I thought it went well too. Usually if Imus doesn’t like the person he is interviewing, there isn’t any doubt. He was a gentleman in the Imus way.

        Deidre gets on my nerves. I liked it better when she was an occasional guest instead of weekly. She doesn’t interest me enough to watch her weekly.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        because he will say anything to get publicity and because he is a low life LOL

    • MK Valle says:

      Imus = Icky. So profound, huh?

  5. butterisafruit says:

    Well Twitter land has started beating up Andy for not having Jewish Mother’s on the poll. …….From Team Jill. Go Figure.

    • VAgirl says:

      I saw that one coming!

      • butterisafruit says:

        hehehehe VAgirl. You can drive a truck through it.

        I bet Andy saw it coming too.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Wait – isn’t Andy Jewish – and his mother was on the poll.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Yes and yes so take that Jill.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        you cant have a name like Andy Cohnen and have a mazel of the week and NOT be Jewish LOL

        here is a funny lil story how i became friends with Andy on twitter
        In the 70’s my first big summer love was a lifeguard who worked at the hotel next door to the one we stayed at for a month every summer
        he was tall blond and drop dead beautiful
        i spent 5 of teh best summers of my life as his boyfriend (just a summer b/f mind you but i was so in love)
        anyway his name was as you may have guessed Andy Cohen
        years later i tried to find My Andy via the miami phone book ,do you guys know how many Andy Cohens there are in miami LOL its like John Smith
        needless to say i looked for him on twitter and that is how i met THIS Andy

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Didn’t Lisa win? I’ll bet Jill is very jealous of Giggy! She probably doesn’t even realize that Lisa was also shown being a caring and sweet mother on the show to actual children.

    • MK Valle says:

      But he had his favorite Jewish mother on the list, his own mother! JZ, get a clue, Andy’s just not that into you or your dog (still can’t spot poor Ginger’s photo that JZ presented to Andy on his WWHL set, can you?)

    • quincyil says:

      Does And know it’s team Jill doing this?

  6. butterisafruit says:

    GingerettesTeam Jill Zarin!
    by lisanewengland
    @BravoAndy Strange that everybody’s Jewish mothers weren’t in your poll?? Care to explain? @Jillzarin and Gloria define Mother.
    2 hours agoFavoriteRetweetReply

    realgingerzarinGinger Zarin
    by lisanewengland
    Why wasn’t my mom included in last nights WWH poll? She’s the best mom! Should we ask bravoandy???
    57 minutes agoFavoriteRetweetReply

    • VAgirl says:

      Could you imagine any of the other housewives even caring if they were in the poll or not? Please, Jill, I’m begging you – GET A LIFE!

    • Suzieq says:

      Were there any moms of HW even in the poll?? Wasn’t there just Andy’s mom?? Shut the heck up Jill!!! Nobody in the world wants ur mom because that would mean we would be raised like u…. And we sure as he’ll don’t want to be anything like u!!!!!!!!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Apparently, the Zarin feels that she should be on each poll in some way. Maybe a better poll would have been worst daughter….another slam dunk for the Zarin.

        • butterisafruit says:

          I think Andy wanted his Mom to win. That might have been the point. It wasn’t a serious poll it was for fun. And of course like any little boy, his mommy is the best mommy.
          The smart move would be for her to tweet that ANDY’s Mom is the best. He IS the BOSS.
          what at witch.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Ha Ha – Jill wasn’t asking about her mother – Ginger (her dog) was asking about her mother (Jill). What a strange world Jill lives in where she has a daughter, but wants to be known as the mommy of a little dog.

    • error404 says:

      I feel bad for Jill because she just can’t accept defeat with even a shred of dignity.

      Was it disappointing for the authors of “Secrets of a Shrewish Mother” to be left off a Mother’s day poll? Yes. Would Ramoner be left off a “Who’s Mom is the most fascists about Pinot?” poll? No.

      How is she suppose to shift all of those moldy books cluttering up Bawby’s stock room if Andy won’t ever toss her a bone? She’s one jew Andy is bad for. 😛

      • quincyil says:

        Error, I think Jill Zarin is continuing her game in cyberspace that she started on Amazon and got caught attacting the books of Bethenny and Silex. It is my opinion, that Jill Zarin and her people go to boards like this and plant posts with links that are known to be planted articles. It my opinion, that this happened yesterday on this board.

        I had trouble going to sleep after I looked at some things.

        Q

        • Golden Girl says:

          Is Jill for real? How embarrassing to get all hyped up over some sill WWHL poll.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Q – More than than that one inappropriate post that Simon responded to?

          • quincyil says:

            I think there have been others in addition to that one.

            The good news is, people here know so much that they immediately sense something is wrong and address it.

        • PJ says:

          I thought the same thing.

        • sue says:

          She most def. is still up to her old way. Why doesn’t Bravo or Andy step in and knock Jill down a couple of pegs. They are making this monster bigger then what she is or deserves. C’mon Jill does not stand out that much anymore from the other ladies except in a bad way as far as many viewers are concerned. Bravo should teach her a lesson and also I think Bravo should let the viewers see all the footage from the “Scary Island” episodes that we never got to see. I mean they did for RHOBV for the “Dinner party from Hell” and since Kelly agreed to come back and she still is claiming that Bravo and the other housewives are lying, then why shouldn’t we get to see it, we are the ones who keep their shows going?

          • quincyil says:

            Bravo probably benefits financially from the controversy.

            • sue says:

              Agreed quincyil, butit is something they should do because of the viewers def. want it. Not only that, but it would def. cause controversy for the next season if that is what they want!

          • NYCer says:

            Yes Sue- and they did it for the dinner at the end of S1 of RHONJ – I think it was called “The Last Supper” or something.

    • kbinldo says:

      Betcha Jill’s in her attorney’s office right now, threatening to sue because her mom was not listed in Andy’s stupid phone-in poll.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Ginger’s mom wanted to be on the poll (AKA Jill). Gloria was just a side thought LOL. This woman is unbelievable.

    • Christine says:

      Her dog tweeted that to Andy? EEEWWW desperate much, JZ?

  7. quincyil says:

    I put my twitter name on the board for people here. I don’t tweet often, but all 4 of them are profound. rotfl

    I made a mistake. There were two lists and I am still following Jill. I am still a beginner when reading twitter.

    I calculate that there were over 2900 comments on the board since Thurs.

    Thanks for helping me in this.

    Q

    • @tweatcyn says:

      you did? I missed it. will you tweet it to me @tweatcyn?

    • @tweatcyn says:

      disregard my request below to tweat me your handle. I found it and am now following you. Yes, you can tweet people you don’t follow but if they block you, they won’t see them. if you want to see their tweets on your timeline you follow them back.

  8. kbinldo says:

    I completely forgot that CA was on last night. I was watching the Borgias instead. Oh well, there’s something I can watch On Demand this week. And wow, 3 gone in one episode: Nene, Star, & LaToya!

  9. boston02127 says:

    This is kind of dorky but it’s nice. When I was little (I don’t remember what age, about 3 or 4yrs old ) I got a pink stuffed bunny. It’s about 7 inch tall and skinny. I named it my mama bunny and took it everywhere. When I started kindergarden and first grade, I took it with me, it went everywhere with me. I related it to my mother for some resaon. I still have it. It looks like it has seen better days but I can’t get rid of it.
    Yesterday my boyfriend had a gift for me. He got me a charm bracelet and it had 2 charms on it. One said I love you and the other one was a little girl hugging a tiny bunny. It’s adorable and I thought that was so nice of him.

    I’ve GTG, I hope everyone has a good day.

  10. LynnNChicago says:

    I’ve updated the blog w/my RHOOC blog, I’m going to include WWHL with tomorrow’s BEA blog since Bethenny was the guest. Thanks to Quincy for the great blogs! Hope you all had a great Mother’s Day! xoxo

    • NYCer says:

      Any idea what Bethenny said about Ramona on the aftershow? Both @bravotv and @bravoandy tweeted about it, but I can’t access the video.

  11. error404 says:

    Why does Trump rotate his advisors almost every week? Really, the commitment is too much for two people to handle? What exactly are the Trump kids so busy doing other than this? LOL But I was glad to have the cranky old guy back last night. He pulled no punches in his “get rid of the dumb bitch” attitude toward Star, and really, how exactly did she last as long as she did.

    Star only wins challenges that require fund raising. All 3 had some major logistical and creative problems and were only won by $ raised. That Tracy Morgan video was shockingly unfunny! Backbone’s comedy night was 100x better, but that oddly enough had no impact on the outcome. The only time ASAP won a creative challenge was when LaToya was PM and Star purposely stayed out of it in an effort to sabatage LaT. Week after week they lose creative challenges that Star is always a big creative force in, and week after week she dodges the bullet in the BR. Amazing.

    Star’s “I’ve had the pleasure of being fired by both my TV mentors” line was almost the best line of the night! LOL Almost. I was eclipsed by Trumps awkward celebration of “gayness”, which went something like “I’m not a gay man, but damn I want to slobber my gravy all over Meat’s loaf! I think gayness is fabulous girlfriend, but I’m not gay, I just want that sexy bear to drag me back to his cave for some serious hibernation. Thank God this conference table is hiding it, cause Don Jr. is standing up straight and paying attention!”

    Nene of course shoots herself in the foot one more time. It’s always two steps forward and one step back with Ms Leeks. Her agent must have an ulcer by now!

  12. WindyCityWondering says:

    Mobwives are too bitter and angry over the consequences of their “lifestyle”. Do any of them have an actual JOB?

    • quincyil says:

      Well, I think Karen’s book might sell, but I hope it doesn’t get her killed.

  13. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Another day another holler! 🙂

    Only Jill and her minions would be upset to not be included in the poll. Does she really think BRAVO is going to spend valuable dollars on attorney to dispute the validity of a quirky WWHL poll? Like, seriously? Unless they are guests, or the issue involves them I think the days of Jizz and CryptyG as options on the WWHL polls are O V E R !! Thank you BRAVO. Also isn’t Andy’s mom Jewish? Only rep missing was MamaElsaPatton for Spanish girls and witches. We’ll live but Andy will probably get a sty! 😉

    RHOC Alexis and Peggy are playing dueling banjos for the love of TalibanJim and posing for cameras like two heathens at a cineplex. (WHAT?! ) Tamra is disgusting, Vicki wants to be free and Gretchen is trying to make a dollar out of 15cents. ENUFF!

    CA I thought Star was going to win it all. Surprise, surprise it was the Meat that took her out! LOL She survived countless battles and it was a Manopausal emotional wreck that took her down. GaryBusey move over cause there’s a new nut in town! Although I admire Marlee, I believe JohnRich and LilJohn have been much better in their challenges. It’ll be interesting to see what they come up with when they work individually.

    MobWives Renee is still in love with Junior. They says women bond with one man and I think that was her man. She’s at his beck and call but also calls him to protect her honor when necessary. It’s dysfunctional but they have that bond that only they can break. Carla’s son, a wiseguy in training, is out of control because of Carla. She seems to be a drama queen who is intent on blaming her husband’s absence for all the ills of the world. She lives in a great house, has money, her mother helps her daily with the children, she’s got a social life, yet she freaks out with her children. The old cujette doth protest too much. Get firm with your son and act as if you are a single parent who must be the teacher, protector and disciplinarian.

    I think these women, like many of other nationalities, were raised as princesses and emotionally/physically pampered invalids. They weren’t forced to be responsible as everything was given to them. They were probably poor students and party girls who only had to learn to cook as they would marry quick. These gals have been pidgeon holed their whole life, baby princess, daddy’s little girl, partygirl, wife, mother, mob diva and prison wife. They are left flailing in the wind without their men. They should’ve invested more in their education as the journey is more important than the final destination.

    • psol says:

      I agree with everything you say, especially regarding Carla on Mob Wives. I couldn’t believe that she’s blaming her jailbird husband for her children behavior. If he’s been gone since they were 2 years old, then YOU are the one that’s responsible for how they are now. It’s as if she wants to do nothing, but blame the jailbird husband for the child’s behavior. I say get a backbone and RAISE and discipline your children. What else does she do.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – maybe the little guy needs to know where his father actually is and a visit is in order – maybe a dose of reality would help him. Who taught him to be such a disrespectful, nasty brat? Carla isn’t as interested in being a mother as she is in being a victim of her “lifestyle”.

  14. housewifeaddict says:

    I’ve got to admit, I care more about the Ladies that have left the OC than the ones that are on the show. I’d like to see more of Jeana, Laurie, and Lynne, and have Fernanda on the show instead of Peggy (if only Fernanda could get over her crush on Tamra because I very much don’t understand that).

    But the Slade discussion with his mom was interesting. Only a mom would ask real questions on TV – and watching him duck and dodge was telling.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Was Slade’s mom trying to get him to be more acceptable to his exwife and son and to step up where they are concerned? Whose business was she refering to that he might take over? The whole get a real job was uncomfortable – he doesn’t want to pay child support! And I don’t think she like Gretchen. I don’t like Slade and it was interesting to see his mom getting into his business.

      • MK Valle says:

        Slade’s mother asked him about taking over Gretchen’s father’s business when he retires

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          whoa – that seems like a bad thing!

        • sue says:

          Well, I believe Slade set his Mom up to ask the question about her Dads business, because Slade is too chicken poop to ask himself and if there was any backwash about it, it would look as though he had nothing to do with the idea. Gretchen should really leave him, I think she is just staying so she doesn’t have to hear “I told you so” from other castmates and her family, not to mention the viewers!

  15. Sus says:

    I kind of feel badly for Gretchen. Slade has a vasectomy. To reverse one isn’t as cut and dry (sorry) as it seems. Lots of times the man can’t impregnate you after a reversal. Add this to his money woes.

    I liked his mom telling him the way it is. Why doesn’t he get back into the title business? He was successful at it. The real estate market is still pretty bad so that might not work. I just wish he would shave. I don’t think the Don Johnson look is good on him.

    I saw on Twitter that some people are saying that his mom was an actress and not really his mom. True??

  16. PJ says:

    Star got out maneuvered finally.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I wonder if there had been reports going back to Trump on how difficult it was to work with her and her untruthfulness. Sadly, none of the women have been really impressive this cycle.

      • error404 says:

        I think a lot of the women did make a big impression, sadly just not positive ones. None of this did either Nene nor Star’s reps any good, and OGM I’m sure I’m not the only one devastated to find that Dionne was such a witch. How to ruin 50 years of good rep in three easy episodes. Niki was two faced to help the men’s team, no idea why she did it. Hope can go back to being a nobody, after surviving like 10 episodes of prime time tv without ever opening her mouth or saying anything. You know it’s bad when you start thinking things like “Gosh, I was so impressed with La Toya Jackson. Who knew she was so put together?” LOL

        • PJ says:

          LOL. John Rich has an interview on AOL, if it’s still there. He says NeNe wasn’t there for her charity she was there for herself. I think we had that figured out.

        • fort lauderdale gay says:

          Dionne got busted for pot either in fort lauderdale or at the fort lauderdale airport a few years ago. I just can’t remember the full details right now. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t smoke the stuff and I think the laws should be made much less draconian. It seems safer than alcohol to me. She had a gig at the Hard Rock Casino. A buddy works in management there and sometimes has to deal with “the talent”. The words he used to describe her were, shall we say: not lady-like. I wasn’t surprised that she was such a “heffa” to borrow one of her own words.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            i have heard worse about Sissy Spacek and her not being just a bitch but a cheap one and a drunk

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          i didnt think the show did anything one way or the other for Starr Or NeNe
          the people that love them still do the people that hate them still do
          i always knew dionne was a bit of a bitch most in NJ know that about her
          just as theuy LOVE Cissy and feel sorry for Whitney

        • quincyil says:

          La Toya was a surprise to me also. I had seen things about her over the years, but I thought she was like her brother. Why did they both have such odd speaking voices?

  17. Error404 says:

    Marlee usually tosses out ideas and at least with the phonecommercial had a pretty good one. I was shocked at how easily she caved to meatloaf and now wonder if that was a plan: give him enough rope to hang himself. Letting Star and meatloaf take over control is a great way for a losing PM to throw staff under the bus for a loss, so maybe she played them. With all of the childish star vs meat brouhaha, very little time was spent blaming Marlee for the loss. Perhaps she outsmarted them.

    Lil John is the most creative and I’ll be a little shocked if he’s fired next week. Watching meatloaf theatrics in a stressful finale is almost unwatchable to me. He’s really the only diva left standing. JOhm rich runs hot and cold IMO, has the most conservative creative ideas of the remaining stars, as well as the least amount of stage presence, so it will be interesting to see what next weeks challenge is. Is suspect another creative advert.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Lil John has been rock steady and drama resistant and I would be pissed if he was let go too. Meatloaf is just not suited to this type of show. Marlee has been creative and a team player and I wouldn’t count her out. Two hours is one hour too long for this type of show.

    • PJ says:

      I liked Marlee till this past episode now I don’t know what to think. Was Marlee being weak, or did Marlee and Star have an off camera agreement and decide to go after Meatloaf? I know Meatloaf is really emotional, and I could stand less of that, but I like him. I just thought it was so funny to watch Star hoist herself on her own petard. Star was brilliantly out maneuvered, while trying to out maneuver Meatloaf, and Meatloaf knew what he was doing, it was great. I don’t know if Star actually knew that Meatloaf knew what she was doing when she left that branding out of the video. But Meatloaf certainly knew what he was doing when he let her do it.

      • error404 says:

        I think “B”. The whole “he changed the group dynamic” speech seemed rehearsed, she could have offered either of them up to save herself but only chose him, and her mouth dropped open in shock when Trump fired Star. Ever since Nene was PM the first time and she announced that she Star and Marlee were the only 3 who did anything and failed to give La Toya, Dionne and Hope anything to do, I felt it was a cartel. I think the Star vs Nene drama is about this pre-planned alliance and how it somehow went wrong behind the scenes.

        • PJ says:

          I think I agree with you. I felt the ‘he changed the dynamic, he doesn’t work like we do’ was preplanned between Star and Marlee. I felt that Star complaining about the script was a ploy and leaving the branding or box out of the video also was part of a plan to be able to hang the failure on Meatloaf if they lost. Really interesting, but also disappointing since I thought Marlee was above that and just wanted an honest win.

  18. I'm in Florida says:

    Totally Off Topic–I just caught up with the blogs–and saw the article about Kelly and her dog. Lots of animal lovers on this blog. I raised Saints and Newfs for years and just read the BEST book–made me think that my dog did do all the things in this book and that I knew they had human brains. It is narrated by the dog and called..”The Art of Racing in the Rain” by Garth Stein. A wonderful, wonderful story, especially if you have ever been owned by a dog.

    Happy Belated Mother’s Day to all!

    • viki55 says:

      Does it have a sad ending? I used to love dog books but now I can’t handle how they always die in the end:( Does the dog die?

  19. error404 says:

    hey, who here still has a memory? Remind us, which came first and how far apart: 1. an “insider source” leeks that Ramona hit a producer on set or 2. Ramona “accidentally” retweets Viktoria’s f-bomb video while Lulu and bff Jill are on tour in AC?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IIRC – Victoria’s video came before Ramona’s producer slap but they were close together. Dirty deeds seem to come in clusters – good catch.

    • quincyil says:

      Ramona did the slap long before she sent the tweet out about the video.
      The slap was in the first week of Oct.: the racial tweet was the first week in Jan.

      • MK Valle says:

        I can understand how the retweet accidently happened. I ended blocking the retweets for a lot of people I follow. These “celebrities” get so many requests to retweet me to wish a happy birthday, anniversary, pray for me, pray for my friend, etc, etc. Drives me crazy.

        • Sus says:

          I wish the video was still available but it’s probably better for Lulu’s daughter that it isn’t.

  20. ihearttalavera says:

    Is Jill the first HW in history to whine about not being included in a WWHL poll? Who does this? I can hear her screechy, annoying voice as she’s doing it too, and it’s putting me in a bad mood. This is a publicist advised version of her, so that we will LIKE her. Can you imagine how horrible her spoiled-brat-like behavior would be if she didn’t have a team of publicists advising her? Wow.

    • error404 says:

      Alex co-wrote a book on parenting and was included on the mother’s day poll.

      Jill slapped her name on a book about Motherhood, and was left off.

      It’s just another battle lost in the book wars. An we all know that when Jill loses, we all lose, so there’s no winning even if you won.

    • quincyil says:

      Jill does have a team of publicists and I wonder what the do besides contacting the NY Daily News and gawker to give secrets which are at times false about her cast mates.

      Is it possible that they visit blogs and leave comments?

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Ha! I think it’s a very distinct possibility. There isn’t a publicist in the world who can make this woman likable.

    • nathania says:

      I’m fully convinced that Jill would be Danielle Staub if she wasn’t married. Jill is like the married version and Danielle is the single version.

  21. Sus says:

    I thought Jill was omitted so she couldn’t bitch about the results. I voted for superficial and picked Lisa. I haven’t heard anything about bankruptcy from her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      LOL I voted for her too because she could spoil me rotten!

      • Lavalady says:

        I think Andy said he picked one housewife from each city for the poll, plus his mother. IDK if that is true or not; didn’t see that part of the show.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          it was in a tweet – one from each franchise plus his mom – which makes perfect sense.

  22. cabbie413 says:

    Simon van Kempen is using Luann’s butterfly in this photo lol

    http://yfrog.com/h3emrhpj

    I love Simon..he is just too hilarious!

    • kotagirl29 says:

      They did a good job repainting it and removing the chains. But I am sure LuMann will be upset that they have stolen it and are sitting on her necklace.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ramona called it a moth. So it is a moth, not a butterfly, a moth!

  23. Happymouth says:

    Here is a new twitter account……..interesting:
    Shoalsgirl Gertrude Houndy
    @bravoandy Please explain why @jillzarin Gloria and @elsepatton were purposely ommited from WWHL poll? Scared Bethenny would lose???
    4 hours ago »
    Shoalsgirl Gertrude Houndy
    @bravoandy Why wasn’t @jillzarin on your Bravo poll about MOTHERS? Is Bethenny totally CONTROLLING you now? Is she the boss of you?
    7 hours ago »
    Shoalsgirl Gertrude Houndy
    @bravoandy Where was @jillzarin on tonights poll? Is she NOT a mother? @secretsofajewishmother READ it sometime good book
    7 hours ago

    • error404 says:

      Bethenny is wrong! She should have said that JIll needs to get a different hobby. She apparently already has a hobby that keeps her quite busy: making a fool of herself! LOL

      • Happymouth says:

        Thos person has tweeted d to 3 people : Bravo Andy, Lynn & Ramona Singer.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Ha! So true, error. Also, the comment you made about her not having a shred of dignity about not being included in the poll – nailed it. It’s hard for me to believe a grown woman with a child acts this way.

    • MK Valle says:

      Don’t you all think this is JZ or one of her minions? This is a new Twitter account, not following anyone, only 11 tweets…half of them asking Andy about the poll, the other half blasting Lynn. Someone with way too much time and a vindictive heart…got to be JZ!!

  24. Happymouth says:

    This person has very few tweets, but also tweets about Lynn .
    Shoalsgirl Gertrude Houndy
    @bravotv @bravopr THE HATER Lynn Hudson is promoting this. http://www.kennethinthe212.com/2011/03/andy-cohen-keeping-it-real.html
    25 Mar

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      WOW – what a piece of vile work! Who hates Bethenny? Who calls Lynn a Hater? And this pops up after a WWHL that didn’t include the loser Zarin. JILL needs to get her hateful ass in check cause her dirty little paws are all over this. Maybe she doesn’t realize that her fans are a reflection of herself.

      • quincyil says:

        I think Jill Zarin has gone to war.

        • Happymouth says:

          Response to the tweets :
          MKValle Mary Kay Valle
          @ @Gingerettes @BravoAndy @Jillzarin Get real people, nothing against Jewish mothers, just the ones you mentioned are not favorites.
          10 minutes ago »
          MKValle Mary Kay Valle
          @ @realgingerzarin Not included in poll because she’s an icky person. Not too hard to figure out

          • quincyil says:

            What was the name of Jill’s blog on Bravo a while ago…. Happy something…

            • jeepers1941 says:

              Q,
              jz did a happy passover

            • Happymouth says:

              Not sure about that . I have been Happymouth on this blog because Romana said it to Bethenny on scarey island. Remember when Bethenney made the steak dinner and Ramona took a bite and said “Happy mouth, Bethenny I have happy mouth 🙂 ” And then Kelly started saying she could not cut her steak , and it turned dark again.

            • VAgirl says:

              permanent happy

              • quincyil says:

                That’s it. It didn’t last long.

                She has all of this “life is too short” stuff on her twitter, but then I see what she is up to and I realize this person deserves to have this website.

                I have tried to give Jill the benefit of the doubt one thousand times, I just can’t anymore.

                Lynn was right from day one. I would say…give Jill a chance and Lynn would do it, but she said it won’t work.

                When it comes to the housewives, Lynn really seems to get it.

          • MK Valle says:

            hey, those are my Tweets.

            • quincyil says:

              Then feel honored because it’s obvious your tweets were appreciated here.

              • MK Valle says:

                Without question I’m honored, humbled, speechless

                • quincyil says:

                  I am having a hard time coming up with pearls of wisdom for twitter.

                  It seems that you should say something of great value, when you whisper in to cyberspace.

    • @tweatcyn says:

      Yesterday I stumbled via twitter into two evil lairs where the exhiled trolls from this and other Housewife blogs go to plot their dastardly plans. They like to steal photos of legit tweeters and bloggers and impersonate them on these blogs planting fake comments. They like to psychobabble analyze tweets of those who have outed the trolls and “expose” paranoid plots against them. They have even stolen Lynn’s photo and false commented as her. It’s really disgusting. Talk about needing to get a hobby, these trolls are unbelievable. I hesitate to state the blog names as I don’t want to drive more hits there, but I just could not believe the crap that they are spewing and the extreme efforts aimed against benign and entertaining bloggers like Lynn, ROH, RCH and TVTimes. They seem to be Jen Sale Trolls.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      If I were only half Andy’s age…….

      • Zoey says:

        Huh? Me no comprende.

        • fort lauderdale gay says:

          Part of the article talks about Andy being out on the town in a gay club and giving attention to “a blonde boy toy half his age”. I’ve always thought that Andy is kind of cute and he always says he doesn’t have a significant other….
          I’m blonde, but not half his age…so no chance for me.

  25. jeepers1941 says:

    Sorry if you all have spoke about what I said earlier this morning, but want to repost it anyhow:
    Don’t mean to upset anyone, but I think Jim either has been or turning into a pimp/porn kinda guy. I was so shocked at the way he was directing his wife to stand and pose in some of those shots. To me he looked like those kind of people as well. He just strikes me as a very seedy, creepy guy, who would do anything for a buck, to include pimping his wife out. Some of those outfits were very suggesting and not something the average woman of today would wear, let alone think of buying. There just something really off about this couple.

    • quincyil says:

      I think there is a good girl/bad girl thing going on with that couple. I saw the modeling shots. Is that high fashion?

      • jeepers1941 says:

        Q,
        Thats what I am talking about, it isn’t high fashion as I see it, but more like a “Call Girls Fashions” is more in line with those dresses.

      • Okie Folkie says:

        Well, YEAH!
        It IS High Fashion.

        Dontcha ‘member, Alexis sez its ‘CoaTurd’ the (‘D’ is of course silent.)
        She even ‘edjukated’ alla us on the meaning of ‘CoaTurd’.

        Yep, Alexis sez “it fer RICH people.” I caint wait to git me somma that High Fashion rich peoples clothes.

        • fort lauderdale gay says:

          Whin she comes up wit her bathin suit line, you can go swimmin in the cement pond!

          • Okie Folkie says:

            FLG, I caint hep it…..I loooovvvee you! You NEVER fail to make me LOL & RONFLMFAO!

            Rekkon if’n the cement pond iz done filled up wit dat weter?
            Wanna go swimmin’ wit me?

            • fort lauderdale gay says:

              wy sho! Got any white lightnin or should I brang my own?

              • Okie Folkie says:

                lemme see if’n I caint git my cuzin I mean brother ta fix up another batch….if it burns blue, its true….we git drunk and den we gs a swimmin. gooood plan!

      • nathania says:

        I think Jim thinks that high fashion means porn with clothes on.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jim has always had a creepy vibe. Guessing Jim’s position as king also means pimping out his wife since she has a sinful body. And while you look at all views of a dress you are considering to buy – who shoots a photo of a dress from an ass view for a catalog/website?

  26. cabbie413 says:

    CA will come down to both Johns – which is great. Both of those guy have performed well and successfully with all their tasks. Marlee allowed Star and Meat to steamroll her as PM and it will come back to haunt her. Meatloaf is emotionally unstable and should go home and get medicated. He has ruined his image by being on this show. People will think he’s emotionally unstable and he’ll be a laughing stock and/or people will want to distance themselves from him because he’s so emo.

  27. Bravotv: Eek! @Bethenny has some choice words for @ramonasinger in the #WWHL After Show:

    http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/season-4/videos/after-show-with-bethenny-part-ii

    • VAgirl says:

      What B said about Ramona is true. Ramona has made a few digs at B in the past year. Also have to say, really didn’t care for B’s wifebeater top look. She looks more rested, though.

      • Lavalady says:

        She said to Andy that she bought her top at Express.

      • Sus says:

        I thought she looked 100% better. Her weight seems to be back to before what it was before skating. She did look well rested. I didn’t like the wifebeater top either. It’s not my favorite look.

      • MK Valle says:

        VAGirl, you crack me up. Wifebeater top? LOL, I think it’s called a tank top when it’s on a female.

      • Kellita says:

        She wears it well, though. She’s got great, toned arms.

    • quincyil says:

      Bethenny does not know why Cat Ommanney would dislike Luann. She said it in this vide and I believe Bethenny does not know. I know. Jill Zarin slammed the DC show when it was shut down on her twitter. That would hurt someone’s feelings, but Jill doesn’t care. Cat O watched 3 hours of the show that day, so she can see the snide comments to Alex McCord who has supported Cat O at the book signing event in NYC.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I’m inclined to think that Bethenny really did shut the door on RHNY because it was a painful experience and she has moved on.

    • Nancy says:

      I wish that Bethenny responded to LuMans comment re: Alex that got Cat so angry.

    • @tweatcyn says:

      Just watched it. Choice words indeed. I remember some board members here saying exactly the same things. Ramona on BGM/BEA for camera time. Nice that Bethenny is so attuned into other’s motivations. I like that.

    • Christine says:

      I couldn’t stand it when Ramona made comments about the SGM deal. This is the same Ramona who gets an award for being a woman professional and purports to support all women trying to get ahead? Nice job Ramona…

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Where can I read Ramona’s comments? What I didn’t understand is that she said B exaggerated the amount of the SGM deal, but she won’t say the amount. Did I miss something?

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          I dont think Bethenny has ever said just how much the deal was

          • kotagirl29 says:

            On WWHL Bethenny said she could not disclose how much she got, but she didn’t deny $120 million, so it is probably that much or more. Which depending on the partnership split; let’s say 50/50 she got $60 million is still a metric-butt-ton of money. Hell so is $20 or $30 million. One million would be a metric-butt-ton in my house!!!!

  28. patrick says:

    i know my aunt was also making a crap load on a title business and is now brokitty broke broke in the aftermatch of the RE crash..

    • quincyil says:

      One of the men in Miami Social was struggling in the show financially and he also did this for a living.

      • Okie Folkie says:

        Wasnt Slade Slimey ordered by a JUDGE never to work in the “Entertainment as well as the Title Industries”?

        I was sure I’d read an article saying that. Possibly it was an untrue article, Jeeeez I sure hope I didnt dream that!
        The very thought of S.S. entering my dreams make me very, very ILL! YUCK

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          if they did they are also guilty of keeping him from providing child support

  29. katiecoo says:

    It is just purely excruciating watching how Vicki Gunvalson neglects and abuses her now ex husband Donn. He is like a beaten dog around her. She can’t even turn her body to face him yet is blabbing about “how all a woman wants is a man who respects her”. She has whined thru all OC seasons about how Donn doesn’t “respect” her yet she neglects, ignores, condescends and flat out is abusive to him and he keeps on looking at her *wanting something*. It’s just painful to watch. Unless she can serve up something like he cheated on her and she’s never forgiven it or of that nature, it will be just a RELIEF when that man is set free from that prison. And I hope he got a decent $$$ settlement too because if the roles were reversed, she sure would.

    She’s just hideous to watch, even with Tamra there’s no real “realness” in her–it’s all competition and misery. YUK.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      While I hate seeing the end of any marriage, especially on tv, it was Vicki’s decision to show this and I don’t respect her because of that. And I can’t find any sympathy for her at this point because over the years Donn never seemed to be allowed to love her.

      • Nancy says:

        I don’t think Don will be single for long. I’d marry him if I was single.

        • Sus says:

          I agree. I can’t help hoping that he and Jeana will get together. If Donn can put up with Vicki, he can put up with anything.

          I’ve always liked him. From what we saw on the shows, he let Vicki do her thing but was there for her. Vicki may be the type of woman that will never be happy with a man. She says she loves working and having her own money in one breath but then says she wishes Donn would surprise her with expensive gifts in another.

          I hope they aren’t divorcing too soon. I think some couples give up because they are going through a bad time. I’ve been married 15 years and would be divorced probably 4 times by now if I went by the bad times when I hated him.

          I don’t know, it was a few seasons ago when her love tank was empty so they probably did try to get it together.

          • NYCer says:

            Noooooooo! Not Don and Jeana. She has too many issues. He just needs someone normal and fun.

            • quincyil says:

              He constantly gives her digs and he made fun of the other housewives lately. In the beginning, he was quiet, but now he sees the door about to slam shut and he also is angry.

              She will have to give him half of her fortune.

              • MK Valle says:

                Yup, gotta love California’s community property laws!

                • quincyil says:

                  That is why they are in mediation. I think she would like to keep what she earned, but it’s not going to happen.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          before that dinner party i would agree but he proved to be just as immature as the rest of them

  30. katiecoo says:

    Slade is obviously totally codependent. He put all his *everything* in to Jo’s “singing career” even after they broke up. Now he’s toting Gretchen’s totes. He will keep getting doormatted by women until he steps up and becomes THE MAN again and focuses on HIMSELF and perhaps his CHILDREN then garnering him some respect and self worth. He and Gretchen will never work out in the long run but it works for them in their small Reality TV world they think they can parlay in to a decent career. That won’t last long imo.

    • nathania says:

      I think ‘codependent’ is a pretty generous term for what Slade is.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      yet they are still together a year after this season finnished filming

      • kotagirl29 says:

        Just because one stays with a person doesn’t mean it is a healthy and/or stable relationship. I stayed with a man for seven years that liked to use me as his own personal punching bag!!!

  31. jeepers1941 says:

    Tamra/Tampon has less class than a cigarette bush in the ashtray 😦

  32. jeepers1941 says:

    oops: “butt”

  33. cabbie413 says:

    After watching Bethenny on wwhl, i’m inclined to believe that she doesn’t associate much with #rhony women at all in her daily existence. I thought maybe her friendships with Alex and Ramona would carryover past reality tv but that doesn’t seem to be the case. She said that Ramona has been saying negative things about her in the press for about a year now, then she said that she didn’t know Simon had a song, as she hadn’t heard it. She was genuinely surprised that he would be performing on Thursday’s #WWHL show as well.

    All that being said, I believe she isn’t friend with Ramona, but I believe she may be friendly with Alex, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that Alex is her friend. A friend would’ve dished about her wife having a new fun song, dontcha think?

    • quincyil says:

      I have a feeling the Alex friendship was work related also. That happens. You are friends because of proximitry.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bethenny’s life has been going at mach 5 – unless there was a really committed effort to socialize those friendships (Ramona and Alex) would fall by the wayside.

      • jeepers1941 says:

        WCW,
        agree with that. they don’t communicate day to day, but I do think that Alex and B are friendly toward each other at social events and such, I don’t see then back-stabbing each other either. Now with Ramona, (and I do like her) as I call her motor-mouth, she does tend to go just a little to far, but I think she is just being herself……..LOL

    • jeepers1941 says:

      IA cabbie413, except for “her wife” snipe at Simon. But of course that is your opinion, which you are entitled to buy all means….. 🙂

    • error404 says:

      I don’t think she was ever more than coworkers with any of them. The 3 were more allies than friends and I think B appreciates that they took her side, which is why she has them on her show. We’ve all had friends at work that we pretty much never see once we leave the job. It happens all the time.

      That being said, I don’t agree with her about Ramona only being nice because it’s tv. I think Ramona is genuine, and both digs came from a place of competitive jealousy. She only slammed B on RHNY after the papers were full of “the show is not worth watching without B” and she only slammed B’s $120 deal after her pinot line came out. It’s not like she’s suddenly calling Jason gay or B a phony friend, etc… like someone else we know … Petty and transparent? Yes. Fake friend for tv? No.

      • Epi says:

        With all her flaws, I actually like Ramona.. even if she’s not the easiest to root for at times. I agree with your assessment of it being competitive jealousy. I don’t think for a second she wishes evil unto Bethenny.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        but that wasnt Bethennys fault she never personally took shots at Ramona

  34. lillybee says:

    Peggy’s photo shoot looked like it was for a cheap Playboy type magazine.

  35. quincyil says:

    Of all of the housewives in all of the series, I would only be friends with Alex. She’s more Midwestern in the way she looks at things. She thinks. Sure she makes mistakes, we all do. She’s a lot younger than I am and in a different stage of her life which also affects friendships.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ironically, Alex is the youngest NY housewife and oddly enough she is the most mature, tactful, gracious of them all and actually a housewife!

      • quincyil says:

        We also see Midwestern values and culture so we are drawn to that. Cindy is alien to me. Ramona and Jill are also.

        • MK Valle says:

          Don’t forget about our favorite midwesterner….Kelly! Poor Kelly, a mind of a 15 year old girl, that’s why she gets along so well with JZ. After all, aren’t the vast majority of JZ fans teenage girls?

          • quincyil says:

            My mom lived about 10 miles from Cherry Valley which is a big Rockford shopping center and we wet there many times my kids were small. Kelly was there too at the time as a little girl.

            I actually have things in common with Kelly. We both are Irish, from IL, conservative when it comes to certain personal things, and we both like horses.

            I tune out people also specific people. It’s called ignoring BS.

      • California35 says:

        I was noticing the picture with all the NYwives the other day. She looks so much better than the others. . . taking away personality or anything (that I like :-)) She just looks better, her face is clean, and happy and then realized she is YOUNGER than the rest. She probably has not done any work on her face either. She has that pretty natural real face 😛

    • error404 says:

      OK, WTF is “she thinks” suppose to mean!?! LOL Don’t let RHNJ fool you, east coast housewives “think” too! 😛

      Countless Lulu is the only one from NE, but I’d probably pick her last as the one I’m sooo much like. LOL One thing I will grant though, we both share a sorta pruddish “Oh no she didn’t!” attitude about these NY girls who think nothing of peeing on stick on camera, or bragging about giving BJs for diamonds, or actually boast about getting rich from sticking glitter and rhinestones on strangers’ nasty-bits. Actually, when Lulu told Ramona “You don’t ask someone about their botched boob job to their face! You talk about it behind their backs.” ITAed, so maybe I am like her. New Englanders unite, passive aggression is the only true aggression! LOL

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        ““You don’t ask someone about their botched boob job to their face! You talk about it behind their backs.”

        It’s Called Manners – Kathy Griffin

  36. Epi says:

    I never noticed until it was pointed out last night that Alexis and Peggy have nearly the exact same voice.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It also looks like they have the same nose, boobs and hair. Who knows, from that couch conversation I thought they were sharing the same brain!

  37. Zoey says:

    I guess we’re going to have to have a weekly poll to pacify jealous JZ. There are many polls questions we could come up with that she will surely win! You wanna win some polls JZ? We got a pole for ya….

  38. What?? says:

    I think I would like “Gretch” a lot more if she was free of Slade.

    • quincyil says:

      I wish she could find someone who wanted a family and would help her financially. He owes so much money, that I don’t think he will ever get out of debt.

  39. jeepers1941 says:

    Well I know one thing for sure. I’ll take Bethenny/Jason and the entire cast of BEA, Alex/Simon, Ramona/Mario, and Lisa/Ken as friends from all the HW shows anytime.
    The rest can drop off the face of the earth………

    • California35 says:

      I like your list 🙂 and Ditto.
      Although, I still feel cheated with DC because I wan’t able to get to know enough of the ladies/couples to exclude them from this lis.

      • jeepers1941 says:

        California35,
        Well if DC was still on, I would have to say of course Cat even tho she isn’t married any longer, and Linda too. Then it would be Mary, Tracy with hubbys of course…….. 🙂

        • California35 says:

          So you would take everyone except the Salahis 😛 lol

          Me too actually 🙂
          Seriously though, I wonder if that was way the show was canceled. There was not enough drama/rivals. I wish they had come back.

          • jeepers1941 says:

            hell no I wouldn’t take them for all $$ you could thro at me 🙂 gawd what a mess those 2 are…. but as far as the show being cancelled, I say that was a given… 😦
            Oh well, but if Cat can get on HWNY and blow them all out of the water, except for Ramona and Alex off course hubbys too….LOL

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              i seriously doubt she is being asked to join the cast

              im not saying i dont want her on just doubt it will happen
              if the ratings dont pick up i dont expect another season at all

  40. California35 says:

    Hi everyone, I hope you had a nice mothers day. I spend the whole day with moms in my family. It was very nice to hang out with extended family, and let mom’s enjoy the day while the husbands, children (and me) took care of them.

    I missed all the shows from last night (including Bethenny on WWHL) 😦 and the blogs.

    It is Rediculous of Jill to worry about the little things like a fun poll on WWHL. I would hate for Andy to stop doing the poll only to avoid this problem with Jill. Andy is just having fun and even if it isn’t as fun some nights, it is HIS show. He should do what he wants and consider changes based on fans, ratings, etc…not hurting Jill’s feelings or getting a law suite about it.

    I keep thinking that Ramona didn’t want to do NYHW, she just seems like she is done. I wondered if she tried to get out of it.

    Also, have you guys noticed (or already commented on this) that there are more unmarried wives on this show? It used to be one or two not married, now there are less married.

    Married
    Jill
    Ramona
    Alex

    Not Married
    Sonjia
    Luanne
    Cindy
    Kelly

  41. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I think Slade allows his women to mistreat and emasculate him in order to use them. He chooses immature partners that he can easily manipulate and let’s them believe they are in charge. He exploits their youth, beauty and talents for money and sexual gratification. He appears as the manager/publicist/asst/houseboy/groupie/roadie who is abused but yet financially taken care of. These pretty girls are screwing a bum and a deadbeat dad. They can do better.

    Even his mother sounds off on him, while making career suggestions which he calmly shoots down. Mother most probably helps him out financially also. She even believes he should inherit Gretchen’s family business. Now I see where he could get his great sense of entitlement. Work a little, get alot. Stay the course and receive an established business by injection.

    While many parents have had to change professions or take menial labor jobs to feed their families, Slade just waits for something new to land in his lap. He wants to marry Gretchen, knock her up and make her financially responsible for his child support debt. After all Gretch wouldn’t want her child’s father in jail would she? She’s no TeresaGaDouche. I’m sure Slade does hope G’s makeup and handbag line takes off and he gets a big paying position. However, I doubt he will ever willingly pay up his child support. Only the threat of prison can get blood out of that turnip.

    I think the perfect job for him would be a high end dealership. He could sell cars to fans. I just hope the lot porter has alot of cleaner for all that grease Slade will bring.

    • cabbie413 says:

      great post!! ..and that is exactly what he does. He’s lazy and is hoping to ride someone else’s wave.

      • Nancy says:

        I wonder how Jo is doing?

        • HeyAll says:

          Since Andy is inviting two original OC housewives who are no longer on the show to the after show, maybe he’ll also invite Jo to tell us what she thinks of Slade.

          • MK Valle says:

            Does anyone really care what Jo has to say. She seemed like a dimwit to me.

        • okeydoekey says:

          A few months ago Jo tweeted she was moving back to the OC area into an apt with a female roommate. I’m curious about her income. The best part of all these shows is trying to figure out how all these low income/unemployed people can afford their crap.

    • Golden Girl says:

      ITA with everything you said @Amber!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      golddiggers are not just women….

    • lillybee says:

      I was quite annoyed that Slade’s mom thinks that Slade could inherit Gretchen’s father’s business. Doesn’t Gretchen have other siblings that might not approve?

      • heyall says:

        I didn’t like that comment, unless she was implying that Slade is the one counting on it….

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I loved everything his mom said except for that. I am assuming she meant if they end up married with kids, but still.

          I don’t get the not working because after child support is deducted, he’ll only have a small amount left. He would still be paying his child support and he’d be employed. Seems better than not working and letting the arrears pile up. He needs to start somewhere.

          • Zoey says:

            But he’s so angry at his ex he would let his children suffer for it. At least that’s how it seems to me.

      • nathania says:

        apparently she has never heard the dad’s joke about ‘stepping in a pile of Slade’.

    • Zoey says:

      Well said, sista! I’ve read some of the really nasty posts that Gretchen and Slade BOTH post on Twitter about people who dare to ask about the child support situation. She is either very, very nieve, which I don’t believe, or just as unconcerned about the child support, and is as nasty a person as he is. Both losers in my book.

  42. cabbie413 says:

    Bethenny is going to be on Ellen today! just fyi

    • California35 says:

      That I remembered to set DVR for, I didn’t for WWHL last night 😦 I looked for the rerun and it won’t happen until Thursday or Friday.

      I am so sad about BEA end of the season tongitht. I am hoping Bethenny gives us information on what is next for her (or us :-P) between seasons.

      I will try to watch BEA on time to chat tonight.

      • California35 says:

        I meant she tells us on Ellen.

        • Nancy says:

          I so enjoy out West Coast chat during/after her show. I’m already depressed. Maybe Bethenny would do a live chat room with us? kidding, but it sounded good.

          • California35 says:

            I am sad too 😦

            I have been reading her book very slowly…I think that once the season its over, I will read more of it. It is pretty good and once I start I don’t want to stop…so reading late at night or on a break at work just doesn’t happen. Any ways, that is how I will get my Bethenny fix I guess 😛

  43. VAgirl says:

    Dagnabbit! I missed Ellen. Someone tell me about it please.

    • Nancy says:

      From what Bethenny said last night on WWHL it doesn’t seem like she’s doing a talk show. (at least not in LA). Shoot I wanted her out here!

      • error404 says:

        What did I miss? I remember her giving some vague non committal answer about loving LA but NYC being her home base. For rich people like B, there’s no reason why she can’t rent in both cities. I took it more to mean “just because I’ll be living half the year in LA doesn’t mean I’m gonna turn all SoCal girl and lose the NY bitch persona you all love”. What did she say that indicated there will be no talk show?

        • jeepers1941 says:

          error404,
          She said she had a lot more going on in NY now, so maybe there is a talk show in the works there in NY. She still loves California too. But who knows what will come down the pike later?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Bethenny has more opportunities on the east coast at the moment, but she would like to have a place on the west coast as there are things going on out there too. Makes sense to have a home base instead of a hotel. They are also looking at apartments in NYC as they are discussing expanding the family.

    • VAgirl says:

      I just saw a video on Ellen’s website. Bethenny is definitely on the 2nd baby train. Hope it happens for her soon.

      • Sara says:

        What were her reasons for not wanting a second child? If it had anything to do with work/finances, she’s all set now.

        • VAgirl says:

          No reason, it’s just that she and Jason had originally agreed on only one child when they first talked about it. Now they both would like a second. She told one of the audience members that if you agree on something before you are married, you should stick to the plan unless you “both” agree on a change. Don’t agree to something and think you are going to change their mind later.

        • jeepers1941 says:

          Sara, Ellen’s show is on at 3pm here on west coast, I’ll have to watch it. Aslo, Nene is going to be on Ellen’s show in a week or so, foregot what date it was, but I’ll look later…..

        • jeepers1941 says:

          Sara, with regards to B not wanting a second baby, it was probably many things, 1) she had just had Bryn, 2) she and Jason just got married, 3) she was still dealing with her old issues, childhood and 4) she was very very busy with all she had taken on. But now she is relaxing and finally starting to enjoy all her successes and knows they are finacially sound for the rest of their lives as can provide even more for the family. She doesn’t need to worry anymore……………….

  44. HD says:

    Thanks for the blog, Lynn. I had such a busy day and it is only going to get worse from here. I love being able to read the blog and add my two cents early but everyone pretty much covered everything at this point.

    I do want to say though, in regards to Vicki, I am reading her book which is quite interesting. The way she was raised is clearly reflected on the show. It is true what goes into the girl comes out in the woman. As for her and Donn, I have not finished the book nor do I know the sum total of their marriage. I used to always give Donn a pass but now I wonder. Like when Vicki said he didn’t want to have kids with her, what is that about? Why not have kids with your wife? I don’t know. I think a lot more is under the surface here. I will give a review of the book when I am done but I think we will be able to glean more about her personality.

    • VAgirl says:

      HD, I am anticipating your book review, because I always had the feeling that there’s more to the Vicki and Donn thing other than Vicki is a bitch to Donn. And I definitely think Donn can do better than Jeana.

    • What?? says:

      I honestly don’t think anything can excuse the way she has treated him, from what we’ve seen on screen.

    • error404 says:

      OK, I’m lost. Isn’t it a 2nd marriage for them both, and he’s helping raise her two kids. She’s like what, 50? She’s not seriously using the “he won’t give me more babies” line is she? She’d have to take a day off work for the delivery alone, and we all know THAT’s never gonna happen! LOL

      • quincyil says:

        Yes, she said she wanted more children. She also said she had a tubiligation and that is very permanent birth control.

      • What?? says:

        I imagine they married when the kids were still young. Still, I think Donn mentioned how she was spinning and that he never said he didn’t want kids, it just never happened because they were struggling to survive in their marriage. I find it hard to believe, by the way she treats him now, that she was dying to have his children. Who knows.

        • kotagirl29 says:

          Vicki explained her reasons for not having more kids in her blog last week. Here is the excerpt:

          “When Donn and I got married, he told me he wanted a family with me and to have our own children together. After our first year of marriage, we had separated for a few months and the fear of having a baby once we reconciled was scary for both of us. I elected to get my tubes tied at 34 with Donn’s full support, since I was afraid of ever having an “oops” baby and realized my hopes for a large family was not in my cards. In hindsight I don’t know if that was my best decision, but at the time it seemed the right thing to do.”

          • Christine says:

            Then how the hell does she sit there at Peggy’s dinner party and make it sound as if Donn was the SOB who didn’t give her children? The explanation on her blog sounds like a reasonable decision made by a married couple. A few years after my husband and I were married, we made a decision not to have children as we were raising his 2 sons and we took permanent measures to ensure that. Vicki has really got to get her act together or she will never find anything or anyone to love outside of selling insurance.

      • VAgirl says:

        I think that was a long time ago when they first got married. Don’t know how that subject came up at Peggy’s dinner party, though.

      • Nancy says:

        error,
        Vicki said she wanted Don’s babies right after they married 14 yrs ago. (I think she said 14?) I don’t remember if Don was married before? Sometimes I think Don has a good relationship with Vicki’s kid’s and then sometimes I don’t. I think now since Vicki is never home they have gotten closer. I’m not sure if their “real” father is in the picture. Vicki’s first husband doesn’t have any nice things to say about her. Sad. I don’t think this one is going to have a happy ending.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        it would be a hard thing for her to do since she admited she had her tubes tied LOL

  45. Nancy says:

    For the life of me I cannot understand why Alexis (from OC) has such low self esteem.
    I know she isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer but she could do soo much better.
    She is in such denial. I’m sorry but Jim is no better than Slade. Actually I’d take Slade over Jim. (I think?)

  46. Mimisfbay says:

    I really liked that Bethenny replied to a viewer that she may want to slow down a bit and enjoy her life a bit more. I was very impressed by that comment. Sounds like she has put the CA idea on hold too. Okay, I was surprised by the Ramona comments on the aftershow. Stick a fork in her she is done with HWNY. Too bad. The only hw I still like is Alex.

    Q, it sounds like you really think the beast lawyered up over the stupid polls. True to form that one. I still can’t believe that Alex brought up the drinking thing and not the spread e comment. I still hate Jill Zarin and all that she represents.

    Phew so much happening on the board over the last few days…daze. Congrats.

    • quincyil says:

      I think she lawyered up wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before that pole. I think Bobby Zarin promised her that he would use his money to protect her before she signed up for season four. I think she falls into his arms and lets him save her every night.

      I think Andy and Bravo know this and worry that the infection may spread and that is why they say things like: “No more Housewives shows.”

      Last summer, Jill had Caroline and Teresa to her homes in the Hamptons. Can you imagine, Jill not talking about the contracts. I think the NJ girls signed up with few benefits.

      Jill has her finger in the Atlanta pie with Nene also.

      Bethenny said she would sign right away and not play the contract games that Jill wanted her to play because to Bethenny it was a business. Guess who was offered the break out status. The girl who didn’t screw around with Bravo and signing.

      I’m sure Jill has advice from Lisa Wexler, her sister also.

      Jill is into every one’s business. Andy does not like Jill Zarin.

      • VAgirl says:

        I really, really, REALLY hope there isn’t another season of HWNY. I hope Alex and Simon get something going outside of the show that will help them financially and I hope all the others go somethere into oblivion. Lynn will survive. There is enough going on in the Reality World to keep this blog going for a long, long time to come.

        • quincyil says:

          I also think that Alex and Simon should look for another venue. The RHNYC show is toxic.

          I don’t think modeling will last for long.. We all get older.

          I suggest a second book. Something about surviving Jill Zarin on a reality show. I think it would be a best seller.

          • VAgirl says:

            Yes the modeling thing is going to go nowhere fast, I’m afraid. I would buy that book!

          • Nancy says:

            The best post of the day!!

          • California35 says:

            I would read that too 🙂

          • Christine says:

            And Jill would have her lawyers breaking Alex’s back from the minute it hit the printers. Tell all books can be very dangerous to the authors without permission from any identifiable personalities mentioned.

      • AZ Girl says:

        You are right. Sometimes I think Jill believes she is on the same level as Andy.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill’s behavior over the seasons has had to annoy the employer no end. Last year should have been her last year! Bethenny’s talent has been evident since the first season and in some ironic twist of fate – Jill’s slaying last year made Bethenny all the more marketable. (Add the fact that she was pregnant and getting married – major life milestones!) If Jill now needs lawyers and feels she is being treated unfairly or differently it is really time for Bravo to not invite her back.

  47. ann little says:

    completely OT: don’t know if anyone saw the ads but wednesday on Oprah Sarah Ferguson will be on to talk about the news scandal and the royal wedding. Can’t wait!!

    • @tweatcyn says:

      I don’t know if anyone noticed but Pipa Middleton is getting quite the following these days with fan clubs and men admiring her figure on radio talk shows, etc. Her airtime at the big wedding has really made her a rising star.

      • heyall says:

        And people were hoping for a romance between her and Harry after seeing the two together.

      • Nancy says:

        What happened is that pictures of her in her underware went viral and now a porn mag is offering her $$ to have them published. Sickening!

    • cabbie413 says:

      i believe Sarah Ferguson has her own reality show that is set to debut on the Oprah Winfrey Network

  48. Nancy says:

    But it’s not like Bravo couldn’t get their own attorney’s. I don’t get it. How did Jill get away with not going to the launch party and then throw an “underwear” party of her own? Bravo isn’t this little dinky TV Channel that some flea (aka Shrill) can control!

    • error404 says:

      She can’t control Bravo, but that never stopped her from trying. She’s been out of control and insubordinant since day 1, and it boggles the mind why she never got the “slap down” from Shed or Bravo or NBC. She tried her best to ruin BEA?, that alone should have had her not picked up for s4 of RHNY. Something doesn’t make sense.

      • Nancy says:

        Do you think she’s sleeping with Andy? (joke)

        • fort lauderdale gay says:

          That’s my job…I wish! Andy needs a nice husband to come home to. Plus, I’d love to hear ALL the dirt! Tell me all about your day, dear. I’ve got dinner all ready for you!

          • ihearttalavera says:

            FLG, Sounds like a marriage made in heaven to me. Plus we’d all love to see you on WWHL. Andy needs you! He just might not know it yet…

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            he always says he is single but i think he actually has a special someone

            • fort lauderdale gay says:

              I tend to agree. I’d guess it’s some successful hot young blonde boy half his age.

    • quincyil says:

      The contracts probably have a specified number of events that they have to attend, but there is flexibility there. I think they have to have some kind of giant white board/computer page where they all put in the dates of their planned events: birthday party, luncheon, burlesque party, Henry Bulh fundraiser. If several of the women will attend, then Bravo will film.

      Ramona had the Mary Kay jewelry party and the only housewife there was Luann so we saw them interacting on the screen. Where were the other women. I am sure Ramona wanted her jewelry on TV as well as her skin cream and pinot grigio.

      Cindy really blew it when no one wanted to go to her party, but Ramona drove down there and ended up on a horse on her weekend off. It might seem that the fight was over pinot grigios, but it was really over the stupid party that Ramona gave up a Sunday for when Sonja and others could not be bothered.

      Alex went with her family. She knows that you go to the events of others if you want them to come to yours.

      It’s part of the pecking order behavior that I blogged on Sunday.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Wow, Quincy! You’re good. Now it makes sense why Ramona made the comment about how long she was married and how important her time with her husband is, and that is why that exchange between her and Cindy was so heavily edited. It wasn’t about the Pinot. Like B said, “it’s never about what it’s about.” Genius!

        That is another reason why I excuse a lot of poor behavior from these women. Reality tv is anything but real.

        • Nancy says:

          I don’t think that excuses their bad behavior. If they don’t like doing these get together’s get off the frigging show!

          • ihearttalavera says:

            But then how would they get free air time for their infomercials??? 😉

          • quincyil says:

            I read that in Dec. 2010, the NYC housewives got a significant increase in salary. Money and fame are addictive.

  49. Kukulet says:

    Wait…let me get this straight. Jill had a fit because she wasn’t included in some trivial Mother’s Day poll, and she had her employee and her “dog” Tweet about what a great mother she is and how she should have been included? Not her daughter, mind…but someone she pays and herself, posing as her dog.

    Wow, Jill, you are really pathetic. It’s just getting sad now.

    • quincyil says:

      Decades ago, a doctor’s wife said that she pitied me. I was young and devastated at the time, because I understood the meaning of the word. Her husband mad 5 times the amount that my husband made and she looked at confidential information and let me know as soon as her fingers could dial the phone.

      I have saved that word for decades now. I really do pity Jill Zarin. It has nothing to do with money. It has to do with where Jill Zarin is in her life and what she has chosen to do to her cast mates behind the scenes of a Bravo reality show. I think Jill Zarin is the most unhappy woman on the planet Earth. She can laugh on TV, but she is absolutely miserable. Bobby can’t fix this. No one can.

      • VAgirl says:

        I agree. She is a most unhappy woman.

      • @tweatcyn says:

        I totally Agree. Maybe we should change this blog name to IPJZ, No?

        • VAgirl says:

          I was thinking the same thing!

          • VAgirl says:

            Then she couldn’t call this that “hate” blog could she?

            • ihearttalavera says:

              It somehow seems more offensive too!

              • quincyil says:

                I actually think telling someone that you pity them is very harsh.

                I know I remembered it all of this time.

                Of course, I still remember my high school locker number and that was 42 year ago.

                • ihearttalavera says:

                  VERY harsh. Sorry Q. It’s too bad how the insults stick with us forever, and the compliments fade away.

                  On the positive side, you have a great memory! I still have nightmares that I get to school and can’t find my locker. And I’m usually naked. :O

        • quincyil says:

          That would be interesting. I wonder how Jill would react to that.

      • Nancy says:

        Q,
        How true and how sad. I don’t think therapy would even work on Jill right now as she doesn’t see the problem. One would think being Jill would make one run to a therapist but no…
        The person that is truly being punished for this is Ally.
        And Alex & Simon need to get their kid’s off this show. I’m also disturbed about what went on, on this blog over the weekend.

      • Kukulet says:

        I agree with you, Q. And the saddest part is that Jill doesn’t “get it”.

        • California35 says:

          She doesn’t. It is too bad, then she says that she has changed, that she is tryng.

      • AZ Girl says:

        Amen. I have run across women like that in the legal field. My husband chooses not involve himself in a large firm. He feels good legal advice should be available for all who need it and not cost your life savings. I am happy. Jill is miserable. HA!

      • Christine says:

        ITA Quincy. There are two things worse than being hated. One is being pitied and the other is being ignored. I don’t think JZ could survive either. Her behavior has slowly fallen into some very abysmal form of madness. Kelly is cuckoo but Jill is entirely OCD about this Bravo stuff.
        I think that Bethenny did two terrible things (in JZ think) to her. First, she did not allow Jill to fire her from their friendship, she simply quit after realizing that JZ would never stop her nonsense. Secondly, Bethenny became more famous and successful than words could ever describe.
        Imagine, for example, how it must feel from the POV of the delusional Jill for Bethenny to have had 3 NYT bestsellers while her own piece of trash sells for $2.19 on Amazon.
        Bobby should remove his wife from Bravo and get her some help. The very people who deny they have a problem are oftentimes the ones who need the most help.

        • quincyil says:

          Andy Cohen must be feeling the second terrible thing. I have completely ignored him from day one on this blog. I would never send him a question or tweet him. I think his inbox is a blackhole which sucks all of the material in the universe into a space smaller than the head of a pin.

  50. VAgirl says:

    Jill wants constant adulation – period.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The disconnect comes in that she wants to be adored but she does nothing anyone would adore her for doing!

  51. jeepers1941 says:

    jz made her bed a long time ago with her ugly bedding taboot. She can lay there forever as far as I am concerned. the woman has no brain cells, no wonder she said there is nothing wrong with KOOKOO, jz acts the same way. She a has been hag and needs to be taken out with the trash and burned with the rest of the rubbish. Why on God’s green earth the network puts up with her shit, “MONEY” it is just that simple, as I have said before, and they need to do the same with Mr. Cohen. I have been reading some pretty disgusting things about him too and he is definitely not how he appears on WWHL!

    • Nancy says:

      Do you mean drunk?

      • jeepers1941 says:

        Nancy,
        andy or jz, I’d say definitely andy, very possible jz has had her bout with alcohol too from the looks of her face and the way she sips at her diet pepsi thru a straw, with a slice of lemon. But maybe I am wrong on her with regard to her drinking. jz would never ever admit to that for sure…….. but she is still has been hag …………

        • Nancy says:

          jeepers,
          I do not think Jill is an alcoholic but I do think Andy has a drinking problem. Jill is just a total control freak.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      if your reading that stupid story about him groping some guy at a club
      i can tell you right now
      It’s Not True

  52. cabbie413 says:

    did anyone catch WEndy Williams show today? omg!! “Countess” was on and Wendy pulled out an old pic from Luann’s nursing days, and all I can say was – SHE MADE A HUGE CHANGE!!!! She looked like 45 years old, 20 years ago! I can’t find the picture that Wendy showed, but I’m trying hard to find it for you guys. You would NOT believe that the homely woman you see in that photo is actually Miss Manners Luann of today. I’m flabbergasted lol oh my!

    You can see a sneak peek of Nene’s interview with Wendy (set to air on Thursday) on the wendyshow.com website.

  53. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    off topic regarding the countess and her crappy necklace
    the one that people were saying was held together with tin foil or electrical tape
    was actually held together byy groups of silver pins
    you can see that they are on HD

  54. Nancy says:

    I love that Jill is spending her day worried about some stupid poll while Bethenny is being adorned on the Ellen Show.
    HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY BETHENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Good things happen to good people.
    You might want to think about that Jill Zarin!

    • California35 says:

      That is probably what she is thinking about….that is why she is so on our face. Jill needs to think of the good and productive things Bethenny is doing to get fans and success…to learn a thing or two.

  55. California35 says:

    Talking about Bethenny 🙂

    Letter from her —

    The finale is upon us. It really has been such an emotional season. The reason for that is that I really do let you into my life for better or for worse– just like the vows of a marriage.

    When I decided to do my own show, I made the commitment to being straightforward, honest and giving it to you straight. How else could I embark on inspiring and helping you realize that anything is possible but nothing is perfect?

    I have experienced everything with you: financial struggles, love, loss, pregnancy, business, marriage, motherhood and everything in between.

    You are my loyal dedicated fans and I love you. I do more for you than you’ll ever realize because not only have I entered into your homes but also you’ve entered mine. Thank you for taking the journey with me. It is well worth the ride, I’m proud of what I’ve accomplished and of the message my show contains.

    Family and good friends are the most important parts of life, laughter is essential, anything you dream of you can have if you come from “A Place of Yes” and honesty is always the best policy.

    Enjoy tonight’s episode. Have a Skinnygirl toast with me to a great and successful season. Also toast yourself for being incredible and never taking yourselves too seriously.

    This isn’t goodbye–there will be a third season! We start filming in July and we’ll be back before you know it.

    It’s good for me to take a break, take a breath, take it all in and soak up what I’ve accomplished and all of the changes that have occurred in the past year. I need a moment to just reflect and not be in a constant struggle to succeed. Life is good and I need to appreciate. That’s what these next few months will be about.

    I love you! Thanks for a great season!

    • Kellita says:

      I’m so glad there’ll be a third season! Maybe she’ll be pregnant by then.

    • Lavalady says:

      I got this too, CA. And I also see Bethenny is going to be at a GNC very close to me on Thursday, for her Skinnygirl cleanse. Does anyone know what this appearance would entail. I could go, but not sure what to expect. Her book signing here was so, so crowded. Do you think the cleanse appearances would be too?

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        I think Jill should get some of Bethenny’s cleanse. Bethenny is gone from RHONY, is very happy and successful. Jill meanwhile is still having toxicity problems. We all know what Jill is full of and a good cleanse is a wonderful place to start! Jill should call the water and sewer utility and warn them before she starts the cleanse, though. They’re going to need to be prepared so all of the toilets in Manhattan don’t back up.

    • Christine says:

      Got mine in my email too. This is why we love B – we are the fans, not the enemies.

  56. Zoey says:

    I think what Jill really means about continually saying ‘life is too short’, is that she cannot expend so much energy being fake and trying so hard to be nice or forgiving; someone she is not. She wants to be herself, but no one likes that self.

    She was exhausted while talking to Alex in their ‘make up’ scene, I think because trying to be kind and pretending to listen and control her tongue, and be someone she isn’t is just too much for her.

    • Nancy says:

      Zoey,
      I think you have something there. Sad isn’t it?
      But one would think she might try therapy, no?

    • FlowerPower says:

      Sometimes I really think she believed (way back when she signed on to do the show) that SHE would be the one who was an inspiration to all of us out here watching, that sharing her fabulous life would garner her instant support and loyal fans who would be forever grateful to her. I don’t think she ever imagined the backlash that happened when her behind-the-scenes manipulations were outed. She probably thought that she was clever enough to prevent that from ever happening or that if people did find out they’d chuckle and wink and say, “Oh, that Jill! She’s fabulous.”

      In either case, keeping up a facade was never part of the plan. We were supposed to embrace the *real Jill* because she’s so honest and forthright and tells it like it is, for our own good, of course. Emulating her would make all of our lives better.

      She blames Lynn for spreading hate because she can’t fathom that so many people who have found this blog came here because they already despised her behavior. Lynn didn’t MAKE people hate Jill with this blog or the blog’s title. She provided a fun place for people who already had a problem with Jill to share their thoughts (since Bravo refused).

      • Nancy says:

        But do you think Jill has always been nasty like this or did the “fame” of the show changed her into this monster?

        • Nancy says:

          change

        • FlowerPower says:

          Personally, I think she’s always been a bitch, but that’s just me. LOL.

          • Nancy says:

            FP,
            I didn’t like her from the start but I have to agree the 1st and part of the 2nd season she seemed different to the monster she is today. I think Bethenny was right when she told Jill that “This show has taken you over, you used to be a nice & motherly and now your…”

            • FlowerPower says:

              Nancy, I think with Jill it’s a case of both/and not either/or.

              She was capable of being BOTH bitchy (shown in her comments with Bethenny Season 1, toward Bethenny later) AND motherly (when she was rescuing the underdog, sharing her fabulous life with the downtrodden-waif-Bethenny).

              I think she expected fans to embrace the bitch as well as the mother-figure.

        • Christine says:

          I think that JZ has a certain pathology in her behavior. No armshair analysis but this type of personality comes from years in the making. I have been in and out of therapy for years and often joke with my good Doc that if it wasn’t for families there would be no reason for shrinks.

          • Nancy says:

            I agree. Look how her mother is. Her relationship with her sister is pathological as well.
            I personally love therapy. I think people are afraid of therapy and that’s a shame. This world would be a lot better if…

            • Zoey says:

              Agree! There should be a private one on one therapy class in high school!

              • fort lauderdale gay says:

                Great idea. Society would benefit hugely from that. Kids would be in a much better position to celebrate differences, find common ground and develop a sense of self and compassion for others.

        • quincyil says:

          Bethenny said she was a nice mother from Long Island before all of this, but she also says that Jill came up to her at the Hamptons Classics (equestian events) told Bethenny that she had a TV show, got distracted and walked away in mid sentence. Bobby explained it to Bethenny and the producers came over. Doesn’t seem so much like the Jill we all know?

          • Nancy says:

            Q, I’m not sue if I got the meaning on that. You had me up to the last sentence.

            • Nancy says:

              sure

            • quincyil says:

              I wonder what I was thinking when I wrote the last sentence.

              I meant she was easily distracted and more interested in another person even though she started a conversation with Bethenny. She does this. She goes on tangents all of the time.

              Just as I came to that sentence, my husband called to tell me my oven was beeping.

      • Cusi77 says:

        So true FP, well said!

  57. okeydoekey says:

    I don’t know if this was mentioned before but Robin Quivers of the Howard Stern Show says Patti Stankers Millioniare Matchmakers contacted her to be a millioniare on the show. She refused and questioned why she can’t be the woman looking for a millioniare.

    BTW– Luann on the Wendy Williams Show looked super hot. She lighted her hair had a sexy dress that highlighted her skin and removed the large foot from her ass.

    • Nancy says:

      What a great idea. Jill should go on The Howard Stern Show. That would be a hoot! I’m sure Robin can’t stand Jill.

  58. Mimisfbay says:

    OMG, I can’t leave this blog for a minute! I picked up my grandson and two of his friends ( 10 years old) and their dog are all here in my condo. I am a lunatic. Went into my room and I turned on the tv and Bethenny was on Ellen….thanks for the heads up! She was great, as always. Bringing a new White Sangria to market, truly one of my favourite drinks. YUM.

    Oh, thanks to Bethenny…I was able to tell my sister about Blue Aguave for sweetener. She is thrilled with how great it tastes so much better than Equal. Puleeze, one of you tell me that it is an ok sweetener for a pre-diabetic.

    I am horrified, and grateful to you Q for the info on Jill Zarin. She is a pitiable human but her behavior is so horrifying that I just can’t find it in my beady little heart to do anything but hate her.

    Thanks Quincy for all of the info! Gotta go help the boys gather up their stuff.

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  60. Nancy says:

    Q,
    Have you ever watched the show “Into the Pride”?
    It’s about a man that befriends a pack of wild lions.
    I’m not sure how I feel about it but it’s entertaining to watch.

  61. Cusi77 says:

    Thank you Lynn and Quincy for great Blogs!

    I think I am going to cry watching BEA final episode!

    Nene quit two seconds too early! BAM! Star got caught in her lies… Star, you are fired!

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