I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New York / Watch What Happens Live

Real Housewives of New York          May 12, 2011

Great news!  Alex McCord does own a brar and she looks amazing when she keeps her girls supported!  She wore a black wig and a Cleopatra outfit to Sonja’s Masquerade Ball, even the other housewives noted that Alex looked great with a little cleavage.  Alex, please keep supporting your girls!

Jill made up for lost time after being gone for a few weeks she got back into the swing of things pretty quickly by focusing on the new girl.  Cindy Barshop was apparently friends with Ramona before joining the housewives but those days are over and Jill relentlessly pursued Cindy like a schoolboy with a crush!  Best we could tell Jill met Cindy just the one time at the art gallery and tonight Jill stopped by Cindy’s for no apparent reason on her way to work.   Insert snicker here.  Jill pretending to have a job was as transparent as her pursuit of Cindy’s friendship.

Sure Jill’s got her Luann and her Kelly but LuLu isn’t crying in her Post Toasties anymore over her 16 year marriage, she found new love and doesn’t need Jill Zarin anymore.  Kelly is all over the place and Jill can’t control the wild card.  Jill needed to ensure that Cindy was firmly on Team Jill and she made good strides toward that goal tonight.

Jill gives us her stamp of approval on Cindy’s house, she has two babies so it is ok that the place is a bit of a mess and all about the kids, once they go off to school Jill tells us that Cindy will fix up her home.  Jill’s kid is off to college, when do you think she’ll fix up her home?

Jill talks for the first time about her extended family telling Cindy that she’s a grandmother, Bobby’s son has two children making Jill a step-grandmother and Jill admits that she would have liked to have more children but doesn’t really explain why she didn’t have anymore.  Sometimes the universe takes over and does the right thing.  

Cindy’s teeth seem to fascinate producers and editors alike, we’ve seen more of Cindy Barshop’s teeth this season than we’ve seen of any of the other housewives put together.  Jill joined Cindy at a cosmetic dentist appointment and made the typical fool of herself by talking over the dentist and Cindy.  Jill’s fabulous circle of friends have to have the right teeth.  Jill actually announced that she and her family are like real doctors.  That’s like saying Kelly is a real journalist. 

Jill and Cindy are the same age but their lives couldn’t be more different.  Jill’s daughter just went off to college and she’s dealing with empty nest syndrome while Cindy is raising 18-month old twin babies with her brother and her irresponsible ex-boyfriend who doesn’t seem to know how to hold a child.  Did anyone else cringe when Cindy’s ex flipped that baby upside down then put her down head first?  

Did Cindy lie about her “situation”?  She seemed to change her story after just 3 episodes when we first met her she made it sound as if she made a conscience choice to have children on her own, she didn’t mention that the baby’s daddy was around in the beginning and she gave him the boot until the kids were a few months old. 

I have to point out one small thing that continues to bother me about the New York Housewives, as Cindy was bathing her children someone off camera handed her a washcloth, she accepted it without any acknowledgement or saying “Thank you”.  She didn’t even look at the woman who handed it to her.  This is like a disease in New York, we’ve seen most of the New York housewives behave this way.  What is it about these New York Housewives, they don’t have the courtesy to say “thank you”, ever? 

Cindy tells Jill about her Four Seasons visit with Ramona and Jill is practically jumping up and down as Cindy reveals her opinion of Ramona.  Jill is grinning from ear to ear as Cindy reveals her opinion, “her core is not good”.  These are five words that really could sum up Jill Zarin over the past three years that we’ve known her.  Cindy’s got the right sentiment but the wrong Housewife. 

Sonja Morgan calls herself the hostess with the mostess, she prides herself on her elaborate and well-attended parties.  Tonight proved none of that is true, at least not anymore.  Apparently it is true about New York Society, once the couple divorces the wife is dumped from all the true social circles. 

Sonja threw a party at the right restaurant but best we could tell there was no food, only cocktails and it took place in the small wine vault rather than in the dining room.  Jill was appropriately impressed to be invited but completely disappointed once she arrived.   We can see Sonja desperately trying to hang onto her Morgan title just as closely as Luann struggled to maintain her Countess status.  Sonja is stuck in the past, she’s forever describing her past life as the wife of a Morgan.  We get it Sonja, you had many homes, traveled the world and lived an opulent lifestyle.  Those days are over Sonja Tremont, you’re back to cooking in a toaster oven and let’s face it, you’ve sort of bottomed out, you’re a Bravo Housewife. 

I cringe when Sonja goes on about her former life, she would have done much better to just show us that she has maintained some class from her former life but alas, that ship has sailed.  Her behavior is so over the top and desperate that it really seems just sad.  She explains that her “houseboy” is a friend’s son from Europe who simply wanted to spend a few months in New York City.  Sonja was kind to let him live there while visiting but she’s made him her servant rather than a houseguest.  I wonder if there are any young guys who’d like to visit Chicago for a few months, I could use a free servant too.  It’s just sad! 

It was great to see Chris March from Project Runway on the show tonight, I adored him on Project Runway, he was one of the few who didn’t get into the drama on Project Runway, he is very talented specializing in over the top dramatic clothing and he did an incredible job with Sonja’s costume.  Unfortunately Sonja decided she didn’t need any bottom portion of her costume and walked around her posh Masquerade Ball with her ass cheeks hanging out. 

Luann and Jill go shopping at the costume store, Jill announces that she doesn’t feel well and only for Sonja would she drag her ass to the costume store. The mean girls tell the store sales lady that they want to look sexy and confuse the poor woman by making fun of Ramona while shopping. 

Luann tells Jill that Sonja has great parties and both women admit to never having been to a masquerade ball?  Luann, the world traveler, the social butterfly, the Countess has never been invited to a Mascqarade Ball?

Luann calls off as too ill to attend Sonja’s party although she sounds perfectly fine and upbeat as she explains she’s simply too weak to join in the festivities.  I’m sure after watching the small group jammed into a wine vault she’s secretly thrilled she skipped the party.  Sonja tries to make us believe that it was her choice to make it a small intimate group when the truth is she wasn’t going to spend the money to have a real “Ball” which is typically made up of several hundred people. 

Jill was clearly expecting a large group and is disappointed that this turns out to be more of a costume party than a masquerade ball.  As I said, Alex looked incredible and Kelly looked ridiculous … oh did I fail to mention that, Kelly looked ridiculous.  Jill tells us that she really likes Sonja but she wishes she would stop throwing these embarrassing parties, they’re not what Sonja tries to make them.  For once, I agree with Jill.  Sonja’s credibility is slowly going down the drain. 

Sonja should definitely get her money back for the half costume, unfortunately she owns it so she’s out of luck but I thought it was classic Kelly to give her advice about Sonja’s attire.  Ignoring the fact that Kelly did Playboy, Kelly dresses like a boy crazy 13-year old with her cooch hanging out at every event.  Who is she to tell Sonja how to dress? 

The New York Housewives just seem to be about cocktail party after cocktail party, tonight Ramona’s wine launch party dominated the second half of the episode.  Ramona’s friend Jennifer who was the bride from episode two was there to support Ramona but she also couldn’t help but gossip a little bit.  If she’s vying to be a housewife, she would have been a better choice than Cindy.  Jennifer chose this moment to tell Ramona that Jill was talking about her behind her back and that Jill questioned Jennifer about why she invited Alex and Simon to her wedding. 

Ramona is upset and immediately snatches Jill away from Luann to discuss the situation and typical Jill denies everything and demands to confront Jennifer.  This is Jill on auto-pilot, this is what she does, first deny, she will automatically without thought say, “I didn’t do it”.  Oddly enough Jennifer wasn’t available to drag into the drama at the moment but Jill found her outside on the street.  That was a bit strange but Jennifer, the perfect Bravo housewife, backed down to Jill’s face and ended the conversation with a truce and a hug.  This Jennifer is a good backstabber, they really should consider hiring her. 

Jill returns to face Ramona with the confidence of having just called a truce with Jennifer, unfortunately for Ramona’s purposes that isn’t going to resolve the problem.  Ramona may look like the drunk, over-emotional crazy person but everything that she says is the truth.  Ramona is upset because Jill is constantly talking badly behind Ramona’s back and to her face, she’s supportive and kind.  Ramona explains that she’s sick of it, she’s been going through this exact same thing with Jill for four years now on this show. 

I have to take Ramona’s side here and not because I Hate Jill Zarin, although I do we’ve watched Jill do this from the beginning and Ramona has watched the backstabbing going on too.  She can’t see Jill’s talking head interviews until she sees the episode but in this instance, she heard from the bride that Jill made a big deal about it at the wedding even asking the bride how she can be friends with Ramona.

The show seems to be trying to paint Ramona as someone with a drinking problem, both Jill and Luann have talked about Ramona’s excessive drinking, but this didn’t seem to be a problem in the past.  Sure Ramona is the originator of “Turtle Time” and we did see her intoxicated a few times but they seem to be implying much worse than a social drinker.  Kelly did talk about Ramona’s drinking on the Season Three reunion show as well which seemed to be the catalyst for this season’s continuation of Ramona as an excessive drinker. 

We’ve watched as Ramona has forgiven Jill time after time for her nasty comments, beginning in season one Jill threatened to take her down for simply not inviting her to a party.  Ramona hasn’t really said anything bad about Jill, in fact just two weeks ago Ramona said how nice it was that Jill sent her a text.  Ramona has always said that she and Jill are good friends who just have disagreements now and then but Ramona’s stance has been pretty loyal to Jill. 

Ramona was one of the people who tried to get Jill and Bethenny back together, I think she was genuine in her attempts but instead of being grateful, Jill slammed Ramona yet again.  I’m honestly glad that Ramona is finally seeing the real Jill Zarin, she seems a bit slow on the uptake.  I think this season is going to be a final showdown between Ramona and Jill, the other housewives will take sides and result in the blondes vs brunettes feud we’ve been hearing about. 

Imagine with me for a moment Jill’s face as she denies, then screams at Ramona during this argument, then picture Jill moments later in the car with Luann as she cries, “She did it to me again”.  Ramona made Jill cry?   How exactly did she do that?  Jill was wrong, she was called out for her bad behavior and Jill crying in the car is supposed to make us all forget what Jill did and feel sympathy for Jill?  This is another example of Jill acting and assuming that viewers are stupid.  Jill watched last season as Bethenny got sympathy as she cried by the car after Jill beat her down verbally.   Jill is simply trying to cash in on this hoping viewers will see her as the victim.  In reality Ramona simply caught Jill’s bad behavior and caught her in a lie, called her out on it and that is why Jill is crying!   Just for another quick hope of getting some sympathy, Jill holds out her 5 for a dollar Koala gift she brought back from Australia for all the housewives and asks Luann to give it to Ramona since she can’t talk to her anymore,  just pulls at your heartstrings, doesn’t it? 

Luann seemed to make it her job in life to make a fool out of Ramona, she was like Barbara Walters interviewing the President of the United States as she questioned Ramona about her wine making process.  Luann thinks that because she’s sleeping with a wine distributor and apparently spends all their time talking about his business, since she has none, she’s an expert on wine making.  Luann has no expertise in wine making and simply listens when her boyfriend speaks, that doesn’t make you an expert LuLu!  Oh and that ugly ghetto gold butterfly necklace also doesn’t make you a jewelry expert either, leave that to Ramona as well. 

I’m glad that Bravo took those extra three months to edit the show or we may have missed out on Kelly shoe shopping and telling us when her daddy bought her the first pair of Manolo Blahnik’s and that her girls love shoes as much as she does.  That scene was priceless.  (yes, that is sarcasm)

Previews for next week show the Housewives discussing a trip to Morocco, it seems LuLu will be the hostess for the trip, although viewers are smart enough to know that this is a Bravo sponsored trip.  Kelly says she cannot go if Ramona is going, personally I’d leave her ass behind but it seems they do talk her into going along.  Maybe she’ll flip out again like she did in St. John. 

Watch What Happens Live

Andy Cohen hosts two New York City Housewives, Cindy Barshop and Kelly Bensimon.  This really looked like amateur hour as Cindy answered questions inappropriately that were meant for Kelly then Kelly reacted very strangely to some things that Andy said.

First Andy introduced tonight’s poll question, which New York Housewife needs therapy? 

As is always at the beginning of the show, Andy tells viewers how they can get involved in the conversation by sending questions to him via Facebook, Twitter or email.  Kelly seemed to think that this was strange and said, “Andy,  I think you need therapy”  A confused Andy looked at her for a moment and said, “um, no”.  We know that Kelly watches the show, we know that Andy makes the same 30 second speech at the beginning of every episode so what was her deal? 

Kelly hasn’t been on Watch What Happens Live since before her trip to St. John last season, if you recall she demanded to be on the show the night the Scary Island episode aired so that she could tell her side of things.  This was really her first chance to discuss it live and what she said was that it was a great season and Bravo took her life and put it on TV, this is her job to entertain and she was very thankful.  Honestly, none of it made any sense but that’s Kelly!

Kelly did it again as Andy did what he always does, he barely listens to a guest’s response but jumps into the next question or a new caller, in this case Kelly jumped in surprise as Andy welcomed a caller.  She really is a nutcase! 

Andy’s three obsessions tonight

  1. Sonja’s costume with the missing panties were shown along with Sonja’s bruise on her bottom.  Kelly was asked if she laughed when Sonja fell,  Kelly said no, she was not happy when Sonja fell, Kelly was very serious about this. 
  2. Ramona Singer was very emotional tonight on this episode and Andy showed a clip of some of Ramona’s scenes.  The strange part about this is that Kelly was laughing hysterically, uncontrollably and it was completely without merit.  Kelly must have a laugh track in her head. 
  3. Promising us a sneak peek of the New York Housewives trip to Morocco, all we saw was Cindy crying about her coat hangers that she claims were stolen.  This scene could have happened in New York or anywhere, how about a REAL sneak peek Cohen?

Cindy was asked about what seemed like a contradiction about her children and being a single parent.  Cindy’s first response, “What do you consider a single parent?” was a bit odd.  Andy brought up the NY Post article that said they were together when the babies were born.  Cindy says she wasn’t hiding that, it was shown on tonight’s episode and that she never planned on handling the kids on her own.  Cindy has learned how to answer without answering, she said she’s lucky to have her children and the children are healthy, happy and well cared for.  Sob and stuff..

Cindy, Alex and Simon in New York

Kelly was asked about her comment about Sonja covering up, the Playboy thing wasn’t what I had in mind, how about all the outfits she wears with her vajayjay hanging out?  The Gotham party last season, for example, apparently it is ok for a 41 year old to dress that way but not a 42 year old?   Kelly didn’t get to respond however, she had her trained monkey next to her Cindy, she responded for Kelly saying that you really can’t compare Sonja dressing inappropriately to Kelly posing nude in Playboy.  Thanks for that pearl of wisdom Barshop!

Cindy really is trying to be Bethenny, it is so obvious.  Typically a new Housewife will make subtle digs or refrain from slamming their fellow housewives but we’ve always had Bethenny who never held back.  Cindy was asked about Sonja and immediately said that she felt bad for Sonja because she judges people based on their social and financial status.  Kelly actually defended Sonja, saying that she was just trying to protect Ramona. 

Kelly goes on to tell us how very impressed she is because Cindy worked at IBM, Andy is looking at Kelly as he’s waiting for more information before he’s ready to be impressed but really, that’s it.  Andy is supposed to be impressed because Cindy worked at IBM.  Kelly brought up her disastrous conversation with Bethenny during Season Two at the Brass Monkey, “ I’m up here and you’re down here.”   The entire conversation goes right over Kelly’s head.

Probably the best question of the night, a caller asks Kelly if she’s jealous of Bethenny’s Skinnygirl success and fortune.  Of course Kelly says no but she goes on to say that it is a testament to Bravo and their ability to make stars out of real people, Kelly says that due to Bethenny’s success, there is hope for all of us.  Kelly really is delusional if she thinks they all have the same shot at Bethenny’s success.  Kelly’s You-tube video’s copying Bethenny all make sense now.  She’s hoping that her half-assed way of doing things will bring her the same success as Bethenny.  Keep plugging away Kelly-bird, someday it’ll happen for you too!  

Kelly was asked if she thought of herself as a cougar and what was the youngest guy she would date, her response was as strange as the entire evening, “Wow, is he asking me out?”  NO Kelly belly, he’s just asking a question, he doesn’t want to date you.  In fact I think it’s pretty obvious that no one does. 

The game was stupid, no need to discuss.  I don’t doubt that Cindy is intelligent, I think she tried too hard to be shocking and slam her fellow cast mates so that she would be viewed as a “tell it like it is” Housewife just like Bethenny.  Kelly is just a complete idiot. 

Simon performed his new song that we heard for the first time a few weeks ago, it sounds a bit different live than it does on the recorded track but as Alex reminded us, all songs these days use Auto-Tune….yes they do! 

The poll results prove that people haven’t forgotten Kelly’s scary island stunt, she took 44% of the vote, Ramona took second at 29% proving that Bravo is trying to paint Ramona much differently this season.  Finally Jill Zarin took third with 16% of the vote.

I don’t think that Ramona would have taken second place if they had asked this question last season, she is a businesswoman and has been pretty successful, she was always a bit of a joke but from season one she’s never really  been viewed as unstable.

Next week Gail King, Oprah’s bestie joins Andy.  Sunday two former OC Housewives, Jeana and Laurie are in the hot seats. 

Until Next Time

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489 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New York / Watch What Happens Live

  1. susan says:

    where are the posts? I cannot possibly be the first.

    • vilzvet says:

      Yes you are, the rest of us were still over at the previous blog catching up…lots of great comments, thanks for the entertainment everyone. This show was a hot button. I noticed that only Jill’s Bravo blog is not up, guess she is doing what she always does, read as many viewer comments as possible for all sources, then take it from there and spin, spin, spin. Have some guts, Jill, and write and release your blog from the get-go.

      • MKValle says:

        I think Jill likes to post hers last so it’s first on the list when you bring it up on bravotv.com.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          ITA and she reads the other blogs so she can comment on what the other ladies say. Gotta have the last word Zarin!

          • katlg says:

            Made 2 comments on Jill’s Blog and as of now, (I’m sure much later), still 0 comments.
            Am I the only one ?

      • Debbie says:

        It’s up….
        Jill Zarin – The Real Housewives of New York City – Glutton for Punishment – Blog – Bravo TV Official Site http://bravo.ly/lVvyYF

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Jill is nucking futs…

          Since when does the bride have to run her guest list by other guests?

          Seating charts are hard enough to deal with weddings never mind figuring out which guests don’t get long with each other- and having to inform the other that each party has been invited…and wait out the RSVP as they play a game of chicken to see who will accept and that their attendance is contingent on the other person not coming.

          She is just so incredible vile….I can hardly find the words.

        • T-REX says:

          This line sums it all up:

          “Whatever I said I meant. Details not important” Really, details on lies, not important, you said it you need to own it!

          Oh and Please “take your toys and go home” we don’t want to watch you anymore either Buh-Bye!

        • Zoey says:

          Do we have to?? Let’s pull straws to see who has to read it….lol

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I think you’re right, V. I listened to her upstream and her story of the events didn’t make any sense.

        And re saying thanks in the recap, Ramona often says thanks (not always and sometimes seems impatient) and B often does and sweet Nick does in such a cute nickish way. Love that guy.

      • Zoey says:

        I was lost, glad I found you guys over here!

  2. NMhousewife says:

    I am constantly frustrated with NY as I was hoping some of these B***** would get payback for last season, but no such luck. It’s Ramona’s turn to get attacked from Luann and Jill and cindy and Kelly gets treated gently and manipulated by the other 3.

    Don’t even get me started with WWHL…..worst one ever.

    • NYCer says:

      WWHL–Cindy and Kelly couldn’t answer one direct question. It was a night of PR-vetted non-answers. Such a contrast to Bethenny answering every last question of Andy’s and not evading anything on last Sunday’s WWHL

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And it sounded like the audience wasn’t down with Kelly’s version of anything.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      See, that’s why I can’t continue to watch. They continue to get away with it with no retribution or being held responsible and that is just boring and frustrating. Who wants to continue watching that??

      • Katiecoo says:

        Agreed–it’s like watching the workings of some dysfunctional family that has no FUN in the dysfunction. Disturbing. That show is nothing without Bethenny. And Cindy is just odd–as in Asperger’s kind of odd. Odd affect, voice tone, she doesn’t seem to connect with ANYONE including her own babies. ODD

    • susan says:

      I so agree with you and all you said.

    • Whisper says:

      Did you catch on WWHL when a caller asked KooKoo what it the youngest guy she will date and she said, ” It’s not really about an age, it’s about a mentality, so I obviously can’t date too young, that would be weird, so I guess 30″
      WTF! Is she admitting that she has the mind of a child?
      30? I would say 12 tops!!!

      • Noreen says:

        I could not believe the comment about dating a 30 year old but two episodes ago she said Ramona was so much older than her. Do you think she can even spell the word Hypocritcal? Wait, can I even spell it?

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I thought Simon was cute. Funny that such a big confident guy would be so nervous. Alex looked good.

  3. NYCer says:

    IMHO: Sonja clearly forgot to put the petticoat on before she left. She wasn’t trying to flash people on purpose. It was the only part of the costume Chris March wasn’t asked to work on so it must have been apart from everything else. Plus she had a bunch of people (and numerous bravo camera people) in her house and they were drinking champagne ahead of the party, so I’m sure she was nervous and distracted. I think she just forgot to put it on. She said many many times at the party she was embarrassed, and after she realized it, she kept tugging on her skirt. She just forgot!

    • NYCer says:

      And predictably instead of trying to comfort Sonja, Jill was a total bitch about it and ran around telling everyone and describing her bruise. That is low class JZ!!!

    • vilzvet says:

      Upon rewatching she did have a yellow thong-type of underwear on, but many viewers believe she was completely buttnaked underneath. It was just the way she gave herself a wedgie that she looked bottomless. Not excusing it by any means, it was sooooo wrong.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i said it about 4 times on the live chat

        but much after the fact like earlier this morning

    • boston02127 says:

      I think Sonja’s the type to send someone back to get anything she forgot.

      When she walked outside to get in the car and felt cold air blow up her ass, you’d think she’d say hey…..I’m missing something. Then she kept bending down over and over at the party. She should be embarrassed.

      She acts desperate for attention. I think she acts slutty and I feel sorry for her daughter.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I think she’s suffering from Divorce Desperation. Plus the money woes. It’s too bad about her lawsuit. I bet she went into whatever it was thinking it would help humanity in some way.

      • NYCer says:

        As soon as she figured it out she said “Where’s my driver”–I’m sure to retrieve the bottoms.

      • Zoey says:

        I hope in Jill’s next life she comes back as that yellow thong thing.

        • Boston02128 says:

          @Zoey–Eww, good one! Sad thing is I don’t think that was a thong. It looked like “boy panties” that aren’t meant for her.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          LOL- or better yet a tampon….it would be like dejavu in a sense because they are both stuck up….c u next tuesday’s.

      • kotagirl29 says:

        I don’t think Sonja forgot her drawers. Did you see the way they were getting flung around in the limo on the way to the costume party? We used to beg our bus driver to hit frost heaves going fast so that we could fly around the back of the school bus just like that. I think Sonja spilled her drink all over her drawers and then told everyone she “forgot” them. She probably has some deal worked out with the company (like every other housewife who mentions gads of products and companies in their blogs) so she wasn’t going to say anything that might jeopardize a source of income.

      • snarkarella says:

        Yeah, I’d definitely think she’d feel a bit of a breeze stepping out with no drawers on. And, her cheeks probably stuck to the seats in the limo. She’s trying a little too hard this season.

  4. Lavalady says:

    Cindy Barshop also worked at Cisco Sytems. Not sure when, but she worked with one of my neighbors. Kelly saying all of Bethenny’s success is due to BRAVO, imo, was a horrible thing to say. We all know she does not like Bethenny, but she could have at least said she was happy for Bethenny success, because Bethenny worked so hard for it. I think Kelly is so jealous of Bethenny she can’t see straight. Cindy was definitely there to help Kelly navigate Andy’s questions and the viewer’s calls. Kelly is incapable of handling situations like this. Already we know she doesn’t want to go on the trip.

    • vilzvet says:

      Didn’t you hate how Kelly referred to Cindy as “my Cindy”…ugh!!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      My husbands friend works for Cisco.
      I wonder it Cindy’s background is in IT security.

      • nathania says:

        it kills me that it’s economically more profitable to put rhinestones and glitter on vaginas than it is to be an IT professional. How do we explain this to young women entering college…

  5. VAgirl says:

    Thanks for the recap, Lynn. Different circumstances, same result. I feel very very sorry for Jill. She just doesn’t get it and Luann and Bobby are the worst enablers I’ve ever seen. There is absolutely nothing Jill can do to redeem herself in my eyes. She goes for the throat and tries to ruin people’s lives by innuendo and out and out slander. You could just see the gleam in her eyes when Cindy was talking bad about Ramona. And Cindy and Kelly don’t even realize they are dupes in Jill and Luann’s creepy games. They are not very bright. I think Alex has finally realized that the best thing for her to do is sit back and watch the rest make fools of themselves. Ramona needs to act like she did at the meeting with Kelly – cool, calm and collected, but alas I don’t think that’s what happens in the future. WWHL was a pure nightmare from beginning to end. I like Simon, but that was a train wreck. I couldn’t watch it. Kelly’s not just crazy, she’s mean crazy.

    • Christine says:

      Didn’t the little pity party between Jill and Luann in the car at Ramona’s wine party remind you somewhat of Luann listening in on Bethenny’s phone call and hustling B out the door when it looked like B and JZ might have actually made up?
      This ambushed thing with Jill is really getting on my last nerve. Then she falls weeping into the waiting and spiderlike arms of the Countless. LuAnn is looking not only like her enabler but personal bodyguard.

  6. WindyCityWondering says:

    Apparently all the blondes have drinking problems. Jill has gained a new team member so now she has the mannered goon, the manly loon and the lying bafoon.

  7. HD says:

    I am not sure what is going on with Cindy, her ex, her brother and those kids but something is not adding up to me. Something is off with this entire set up. The ex doesn’t even seem like someone that would date Cindy and quite honestly I got a little gay vibe from him. The brother to leave like that? What is that about? Cindy lying about the kids like she just had them herself. What is going on? Something is off with this woman and I feel like her and her brother sleep together or something. Sorry.

    • Nancy says:

      I posted the same thing last night during the show.
      Something just isn’t adding up.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I get that same uneasy vibe from this bunch. Is Howie jealous that Cindy didn’t use his sperm? Cindy’s kids sure acknowledge her ex as daddy but she still seem clueless and detached from her children. Daddy loves his daughters but is definately not into Cindy at all. AS for sitting on her kitchen island??? Who does that?!

      • mbdea says:

        YEAH, I got that, too. Wondering if maybe Cindy’s Ex and her Brother didn’t have a “thing.” That’s the weird vibe I got.

        But really, don’t care too much about it. Cindy and her clan are still boring as all hell.

        • nathania says:


          that might be exactly it. I’m not ruling out Cindy being a lesbian. It would explain the necessity of wanting to be completely bare. And then realizing it could be profitable.

          • Bloshka says:

            I wouldn’t know about Cindy’s sexual orientation.

            The Brazilian is popular among many people here in NYC: tons of salons do it. My nieces in Toronto do it: they’re young girls in their twenties.

            In Brazil it’s common because of the tiny dental floss bathing suits. And they’ve been doing body painting and bedazzling for decades. About twenty years ago, a musa de carnaval, Valeria Valenssa, appeared in body paint.

            I actually don’t think it has anything to do with sexual orientation.

            • nathania says:

              lesbians tend to have more oral sex than straight women. as a rule.

              I mean giving. I mean on vaginas.

              I don’t know anything about her orientation either, but she pings a bit for me. and it wouldn’t be all that odd for a lesbian to want to turn everyone’s cookie into a christmas tree.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Sitting on her kitchen island made me think she was replaying Sonja’s pecking order spiel about pecking orders…and thought that literally sitting over Jill would move her up in the ranks. It’s an old Jedi mind trick she learn from Kelly.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I agree completely–it’s really really disturbing to watch–not interesting, definitely not fun or funny–just creepy. As I wrote above, she doesn’t seem to connect in a kind of normal meaningful way with ANYONE, including her own children. This is not a good choice for Bravo.

    • HD, I have been thinking the same thing about Cindy and her brother but I have been trying so hard to stop my mind from going there. Yuck!

      • error404 says:

        They remind me so much of Brenda and Billy from Six Feet Under! So creepy.

        The whole thing is weird. I was shocked to hear the kids call him Dada, as that means they see him frequently. In the post article, he made a comment about needing to work on a visitation agreement, which indicates he hardly ever sees them. Which is it?

        Loved loved loved that JIll felt the need to slam him in her “new Jill love blog”. With friends like Jill, who needs enemies.

    • Kats2 says:

      Yes! Totally.

    • ConfabulatingKelly says:

      I just don’t think she’s one to sincerely connect with her audience.
      Her claim to be some wonder women who has it all comes across as very disingenuous and shady. We the viewers aren’t that stupid.

  8. Nancy says:

    Hi Lynn,
    I’ve missed you. Welcome back:)
    Great blog, Thanks

  9. jeang says:

    It is odd that Kelly never wants to go on the Bravo trips, yet she is off at least once a month to either Miami, Las Vegas or LA. I guess there was a no bikini memo for the Morrocco trip, huh?

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I wonder if Kelly’s passport is still valid after the scary island fiasco?

  10. fort lauderdale gay says:

    Trying to interview Kelly is a lot like herding cats. I still think Andy needs to install a huge sandbox at the Reunion venue so Kelly can make sand angels while the other women go at one another.
    Wasn’t it nice for Ginger to pay us a visit this morning? Complete with a disguised link to Jill’s website. Nice try. You can put your cursor over the link and see where it leads, without clicking on it. So, no hit for Jill’s website from me.

  11. Eve says:

    I didn’t think that Jennifer was backstabbing or forgiving to Jill. Jill talked to her for 2 seconds and then she forced a hug so she could go back to Ramona and say they made up. Also if you read Alex’ blog she says that the party was actually very nice and not boring as shown.

    • Nancy says:

      What was Jill’s wink about? (when Ramona pulled her aside)

      • HD says:

        I missed the Jill wink. Maybe this was her time to get her Oscar on with that fake acting. Also for her to say Ramona brought her there to gang up on her was dumb. How would Ramona know that the bride was going to drop that information on her?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Part of the plan to make Ramona look like she is crazier than Kelly! Wink, wink – watch this girls, I’m gonna push her buttons and make her look bad. Another fail for Jill.

      • error404 says:

        It’s obvious that all the HWs show up to these things just to make the others look bad. Remember Ramoner at Jill’s Kodak thingy.

        Lulu barged in and started an all out rapid fire interrogation of Ramona that was only missing a spot light shone in her eyes. Jill arrived and purposefully held back in the background, making faces. Who arrives at a party and doesn’t greet the hostess? Then, while Jill and Lulu were comparing notes, Ramona had to walk up to Jill and ask to speak to her. She winked because she and Lulu had planned this “ambush” all along, and we’re just gossiping about it when Ramona approached.

    • Katiecoo says:

      I think Jennifer was slightly *afraid* of Jill so just went along–no one knows how to deal with a viper like this until they….do. Look how long it’s taken Ramona. Jill is , like any good pathological Narcissist, STELLAR at manipulation and intimidation. So for me, the verdict’s still out on Jennifer. Lots of people are conflict avoiders and Jill is a walking ball of CONFLICT that’s for sure.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Jennifer was trying to say But Jill you did do all of that at MY wedding
        and Jill was screaching over her hoping the mike wouldnt pick it up
        not realizing that Bravo is so over her that if anything they should have edited shrills voice out to reveal the truth

      • floridagirl88 says:

        Not to worry, Jennifer, we heard you and we saw Jill try to cover up the truth. People on this blog are just smart that way.

      • nathania says:

        Well, just remember it was not only Jillzilla but it was on camera and that might be the cause of the nerves. But if so Jennifer held her ground pretty well if she was nervous about the camera. I like her, I’d love to think she might be included but Bravo almost never makes good decisions about casting these shows apparently, when it comes to adding people or letting them go.

    • Zoey says:

      I didn’t think so either, but that was ‘Jill’s’ version of events. Delusional!

  12. MKValle says:

    After this episode I don’t see how anyone could be on “Team Jill”, including her family, “real friends” and the posse of teenage girls so enamored with her. What an embarassment she is. I truly feel sorry for her daughter and why the hell is Bobby so clueless?
    I have to agree with Kelly when she says they make great television. While it may not be to some people’s taste, I think Bravo relishes the conflict as long as it doesn’t get too out of hand, i.e. Danielle in NJ.

    • Nancy says:

      I think Amazongate was “too out of hand.”

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I truly feel sorry for Saint Bawby of the Henpecked. He must either have no prenup or one that was drawn up by Jill’s sister Lisa the lawyer. He must be looking for another warehouse for Jill’s books, bedding and skweezy wear by now. I have a feeling if he left her, he’d be lucky to have two nickels to rub together and would have to live under the Brooklyn bridge.

      • Kellita says:

        “Saint Bawby of the Henpecked”- Hilarious!

      • lovemamaearth says:

        lol Funny. And Jill has Bobby say goodnight in the upstream. I think that’s the first time we’ve known he was in her bed. Usually it’s someone else.

      • Christine says:

        The only sympathy I have for Bawby is that he seems to able to takes back the earrings Jill made out of his balls. He is the ultimate enabler. This is brother and SIL. My SIL is JZ and has managed to completely alienate my sister and me. Sadly, my brother is, for myriad reasons, afraid of her wrath and unable to deal with it in a healthy way.

    • Zoey says:

      I think whoever has a ‘Team Jill’ t-shirt should write over the ‘T’ with an ‘R’ to say REAM JILL.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      sadly all they now make is trash tv
      my least season watching this crap

  13. mbdea says:

    “Jill actually announced that she and her family are like real doctors. That’s like saying Kelly is a real journalist. ” Loved this, Lynn. LMAO!!

  14. Dani says:

    Seriously was this a comedy show last night? Jill and Luann in the car was just too much for me to handle. I laughed when Jill brought the little (and I mean little) gift out for Ramona and asked Luann to give it to her. I think this is a rerun from last season. Jill has now replaced Bethenny with Ramona and getting the other ladies (I use that term loosley) to go along with her in attacking Ramona. Jill is such a nasty witch, I see no change at all if anything she has gotten worse (if that is possible).

    • HD says:

      Okay! She acted like she brought her back diamonds or something. That cheap gift. I cannot believe that is what she brought back. Who does that? And this is supposed to be the one with money, right?

      • Katiecoo says:

        I know! A little pair of earrings would have fit smaller in a suitcase. And she said they could clip this little piece of shit souvenier on their purses? Like when they went on a group tour to Bingo on Sat night? For God’s sake. Little opal earrings or something indigenous to the area would have had meaning but this thing was just an obvious *afterthought*.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          “Everybody knows (in my Phaedra voice) that Australia is known for opals and pearls. Jill should have given her friends those instead of binder clips covered in felt to look like a small animal.”

    • ramonacoaster says:

      It’s a step above potato latkas.

      • error404 says:


        my fav part about the cold greasy latkas, beyond how awful they taste other than freshly cooked, was the take out container she had them in! Were they from a store passed off as her own, or does Mrs Moneybags wash and reuse take out containers?

    • T-REX says:

      This is why I think they are picking on her drinking habits, they need somehow for the audience to get “in” on the hatefest. Bethenny much to Jills displeasure went and got preggers, so she could not use that type of offense against her because she wasn’t drinking for most of the filming.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      She didn’t even have to go to Australia to get them.

      The website loads slow. I wonder if Jill is getting a kick-back 😉

  15. Kelly_Has_Big_Shoulders says:

    I think Ramona is this season’s Bethenny, Jill, Luann,Kelly and now Cindy have all joined together to portray Ramona as unstable. Bethenny is always seen with a Skinny Girl Margarita in her hand no one calls her an alcoholic or drunk. Ramona is trying to capitalize on her love for Pinot Grigio and is promoting her new Brand name wine. BIG DEAL!! These ladies are jealous. Kelly tried to do the Kellade and that got nowhere. Ramona may be copying Bethenny but hey whatever makes her money.
    I like Ramona yes she says things that make one cringe a bit, but I believe she is honest and has a good heart. She is fed up with Jill talking shit about her every chance she gets. Ramona is calling her out and Jill does not like it so is turning things on Ramona. Luann is a total bitch and I’m still waiting for someone to tell her off. She is such a follower and a Jill Zarin ass kisses.
    Sonja well she maybe a bit nuts but she means no harm.
    Alex love that she is not invovled in all the gossip. I alos enjoy her blog where she is telling it like it is especially to Cindy and Jill.

    Thanks for your blog Lynn, I always look forward to it.

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      I think the only one (besides Bethenny) who ever got close to telling the Countess off was Cat. Unless things change, that’s how things will probably be.

      • snarkarella says:

        Ohhhhh, I was lovin’ me some Cat on WWHL!
        They need to find a place for her now the RHODC is over.
        Sister don’t take no crap from no one!

        • nathania says:

          me too,

          I think Cat has potential beyond Bravo.

          It’s so strange Andy can’t see this.

          Luann has no potential beyond this show, just like Caroline Manzo. Andy gets infatuated with these women that the general public would grow to despise in about 5 second flat because they liars and pretentious phonies. I hope they enjoy the ride because I think they have peaked. It’s the viewers that took the shows to the top but the viewers are getting fed up and without listening to them there is just no way the shows will go any way but down.

    • nathania says:

      you know, now that I am reading this it just struck me how incredibly aggressive it was of Luann to behave that way at the party trying to embarass Ramona at that event. It was a marketing event, and Luann knew they were on camera. She is evillllllll.

  16. HD says:

    In that top picture Lynn posted it reminds me of that Sesame Street game, “one of these kids is doing there own thing”. Look at Kelly. Where did she think she was going an 80’s prom?

    • Stella says:

      Hahaha. I agree, I even said out loud to my computer why is she wearing that when everyone else is dressed so differently. Maybe she had somewhere else to be and only showed up there for the photo like she always does.

  17. mbdea says:

    This show is getting more boring. It’s pretty clear they are following a Bravo formula outline of how to behave:
    “This season, we are going to focus on Ramona’s obsession with Pinot Grigio (ie a drunkard) so talk that up –a lot…Cindy, we are really missing Bethany’s quick honest wit and since you have black hair, see if you can throw a few jabs here and there about your castmates –be honest…LuAnn, you’re still the Countess so just keep telling everyone how to behave –that’s your schtick….Jill, we got the letters from your lawyers so per our contract agreements, yes, we’re going to back-off the toxicity this season –but just continue being yourself….Ramona, honey, you just keep drinking your Pinot and don’t forget your eyes are your best and most expressive asset –play them up more…Kelly, Kelly (snap snap) over here hon, you with us? You’re going on another trip. We’re not forcing you but guess what? There will be rainbows and unicorns waiting for you. Now, you don’t want to miss that, do you? Alex, DEAR, it has to be said, you really DO need to wear a bra and, sure, keep speaking your mind but, honestly, don’t forget to wear a bra…we don’t want to offend the gays”

  18. error404 says:


    Do they serve steak, baked potatoes and creamed spinach at cocktail parties in Chicago? Because in NYC, those red, brown and green things waiters pass around and guests pick up from silver trays and shove in their mouths are considered “food”. And always the giver, Jill helped out any visually impaired viewers by letting us all know that the food was lacking in both quality and quantity. In true RHNY fashion, a HW used the show to bash a famous venue for no other reason than to try and make her co-star look bad. Ain’t they nice? I hope Cipriani’s bars her!

    KKK has odd moments of smarts: like when she interrupted the muff moguls idiotic Sonja bashing to CORRECTLY explain that Sonja was just defending her friend Ramona against the Vejazeler’s mean spirited put downs.

    I’m not drinking the “Kelly is dumb, Cindy is smart” kool-aid. Nope. Name one thing the cookie-decorator has done all season that betrays anything but a limited intelligence. She got rich by glueing glitter and rhinestones people’s crotches. She waited until she was past child bearing years to use science to conceive kids, then tossed their dad out and handed the spawn over to the help like it was a handbag she just had to have, but now is bored with already. She’s no better than the morons that are on Rosie Pope’s show. What exactly did she do at IBM, wash the lav?

    Was I the only one who felt Andy dumbed down the quiz this week. Still, Cindy got most of them wrong.

  19. cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Lynn! Thank you for your Blog! Hysterical!

    No wonder they had to postpone RHONY S4!

    Ramona and Alex deliver what I am expecting to watch! Women supporting each other… Sonja did well supporting Ramona.

    Jill as delusional as Kelly! The classless keeps giving dis countess diggings every step of the way! I dislike these three WITH passion! Mostly unwatchable! Hey, you three dummies, you are suppose to entertain me not to upset me! I pay your salaries nitwits!

    If these Blog would not existed I will walk away from BRAVO a.s.a.p! Without BEA and Project Runway, they have nothing!

    • error404 says:

      Don’t cry Cusi, but Bravo lost Proj Runway 3 years ago!

      • cusi77 says:

        I know… That was the first Bravo program that brought me to the HW’oNY.

        Do you know if LifeTime will be having more PR? It was never the same since they change channels (same formula, but not reruns).

        • error404 says:

          yes, and then some! LOL They are currently filming the next season of PR, plus they are doing a serious of “Master PR” where past contestants come back to compete against each other, and also another show all about designing accessories.

          • Noreen says:

            Noreen is very happy to hear that! Thanks E404!

          • Asd says:

            Will PR be on Lifetime still? I’m excited for the master one, but I have to admit I preferred it on Bravo. Probably out of habit.

  20. aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

    This show is now beyond ridiculous. It is really unfortunate because I really enjoyed watching Seasons 1 & 2, I have them on DVD (well, I didn’t enjoy watching Kelly in Season 2 but thankfully there’s other material to make up for that!) Now I really have no desire to spend my free time watching fights all the time. Bethenny’s show is way, WAY better than this trash, and let’s face it — she is sorely missed from RHONY.

  21. cabbie413 says:


    .. Remember during a reunion show when kelly said she was blonde lol.. So much for “team brunette” more like “team brunette, and a crazy person that think she’s blonde” lol

  22. cdnfillie58 says:

    Not sure if anyone else caught this..I rewatched the episode last nite and focused on the limo ride to the masquerade party.. Looks to me like Sonya was wearing her “bottom” half. I tweeted her last night to ask her about it. Five minutes later I get a DM from her saying “OMG we have the same dog”!!!! She’s been dipping in the Kellaide pond IMHO

  23. Katiecoo says:

    Can you only imagine Bethenny’s little private interview had Jill tried to hand her one of those dime store “clip on” koalas to “stick on her purse”? OMG, that would have been rich. She would have only had to hold it up, open and close the clip and make a face and that one moment could have salvaged this entire train wreck of a show.

    • Nancy says:

      WTF was Jill thinking bringing home those “gift’s”?
      I had no idea she was THAT cheap. Blows my mind.

  24. cdnfillie58 says:

    “Sonja’s credibility is slowly going down the drain.”….I think it’s already somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean 😛

  25. Katiecoo says:

    Deleted scene from BEA:


    Heartbreaking and heart filled at the same time. B has such a good heart.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Watching this explains Jill’s motivation for the “hotel suite for the cancer patient”.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – Jill copies Bethenny like nobody’s business. Unfortunately, she would have to have a heart and soul to pull it off.

      • Nancy says:

        OMG you’re right. Single White Female!!!

      • lovemamaearth says:

        That’s what I thought when she brought that up. lolGood points. If Ramona does have a drinking problem, it could get her more sympathy and understanding. Backfire again Jill and company.

    • cusi77 says:

      Oh how sweet of Bethenny, Jason and Julie for stopping by!

      How Krazy Killoren can say that Bethenny’s succes is due to a Bravo… Ok. Ok. Kelly is not normal! She believes and repeats whatever JZ says, no matter what!

    • Debbie says:

      Another clip…Producer’s Commentary; Last Episode

      Bethenny Frankel :: NY Times Best Seller & Celebrity Natural Food Chef http://bit.ly/mRBIf9

    • T-REX says:

      OMG! Can I love Bethenny any more than I aready do! I am now a Superduper fan! You could see she was very geuine with these people, even thoughtful enough to wait to bring in the baby Bryn in case it might upset the couple.

      • T-REX says:

        Forgot to mention that there was an add for some kind of Dental product, and the woman kept saying her doctor recommended it, and all I could think of is they should have shot to a pick of JZ, since she is now a Dentist on Television.

  26. Mum says:

    My opinion is very brief..I hate Jill Zarin too and her squad of common, vulgar blood suckers.

  27. cusi77 says:

    From JZ blog today:

    “I had just come back from Australia. My friend Vince drove me, and I came to support Ramona, as I always have in the past. ”

    I wonder if this good friend “Vince” is the “Vincenzo in NY” who wanted to convert us to love Jill Zarin!

    Thank you Lynn for a great Blog! Hysterical!

  28. Stephanie says:

    Okay so obviously the crew, cast etc. Has been to told not to press Kelly this season. They pretty much let her say just whatever. I have to admit she was “interesting” in a drama way last season that I had to see whappened next with her. NOW I haven’t pressed FWD so many times on my Dvr.

    WWHL……the gasp out of the audience said it All to the response in which Kelly made to the question about Bethenny success!

    Sure Bravo was the place B became a household name but everyone needs to remember Bethenny pounded the streets and worked really hard for what she has become….hello Bravo question “does bethenny need to slow down”!

    So in close I think Kelly would have ripped her own head off on live TV rather than give Bethenny a pat on the back.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly will be waiting along time for her multimillion dollar career from Bravo. She really held it together when the B word was mentioned – loved the caller bringing it up cause we know no nuts Cohen wasn’t going to say anything to set the lunatic off.

      • Christine says:

        To “business women” Jill, Kelly, LuAnn, Sonja, Alexis, Gretchen, etc. – the Bethenny success train has left the station. It is bullet train and you can’t catch it.

  29. cabbie413 says:

    i’m done watching the show but i’ll be on this blog!!

    i want to see the reunion tho!

  30. lillybee says:

    Jill mentioned “work” more times than Vicki usually does.

  31. Zarout! says:

    Lynn, I just watched the episode & Cindy did say thanks when the person handed her the towel. It’s hard to hear, but I hit rewind a few times and she definitely said it. Then, two seconds later, she’s putting the kids to bed & she says thank you to the nanny. The main one I find to completely lack any sort of manners is Ramona. I will never forget how she snatched that glass of wine out of the server’s hand at the Scary Island dinner without so much as a glance in his direction. I don’t care how rich you are, manners are manners and Ramona is seriously deficient in that department.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Ramona was definitely rude at scary island..especially when she was pounding the table like a barbarian demanding her Pinot. But Kelly’s over compensating with the sickening sweet ‘Thank you SOOOOOOOOOO much’ came across as very insincere.

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      I disagree. The way I saw it, the server handed Ramona the glass while she was transfixed on the fight going on in front of her. I thought it was pretty funny, actually, the way Ramona accepted the wine glass seemingly out of nowhere!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA and I am sure the handlers were very close to the table at Scary Island because Kelly was getting out of control.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I saw a few examples of her rudeness on that trip, on the boat -when she was pounding the table and when she was telling the chef how to she likes her oatmeal- it wouldn’t have come across as so abrupt if she had couched it with a please and a thank you.

      • cusi77 says:

        I agree with you aquamarine! I always thanks, but in that instance I really don’t know if I would have left aside good manners… that was a scaring moment!

  32. Stephanie says:

    This is like watching the Bad Girls Club……NO CLASS!

    And Ramona said I could have called her an effing b!#%h……well in the first episode Jill didn’t hold back and called Ramoma the exact “slur” at the wedding.

    Jill you will never change. To think I was one of the dumb ones that thought wow she may be different now.

    I need to be stoned for being a moron but hey at least I’m back on track.

    • Katiecoo says:

      Hey I think I need to GET stoned to make it thru this unbearable season of RHONY. This might be their last I think–boring, mean, nasty-it’s just not good television yet ya know what they say about a trainwreck.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Don’t be too hard on yourself. If moronic moments were a stone-able offense, I’d have been dead long ago. I’m thankful for my brief moments of clarity……ROFL

  33. kitkat says:

    during the scene when Jill is talking one-on-one with Ramoner and she does this quick, fake, nervous smile that showed her teeth for a second, where Jill looked EXACTLY like….Dustin Hoffman as Tootsie! EXACTLY.

  34. Sus says:

    Jill Zarin Exclusive Season 4 Episode 6 Blog

    Episode 6…here we go!

    Cindy invited me over to see her apartment for us get to know each other. After all, we are going to spending a lot of time together! I knew she was friends with Ramona so I was a little nervous but I knew when I first met her she was my kind of girl. We both come from Long Island, both Jewish, and we are the same age.

    I had just come back from Australia and was really shocked at the stories everyone told me when I came home. No wonder soap operas are being replaced by reality shows. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    When Cindy said “Ramona’s core is not good” it validated a lot of the feelings I have had over the years. We have a lot of friends in common. Cindy said “we have our ups and lows” (she meant downs) but we accept Ramona for who she is. What the heck does that mean? Why would anyone accept someone who makes so many condescending remarks and offers little respect to anyone? Cindy said “her core is not good.” Is she right? I always try to find the good in people. I let a lot of things go with regards to Ramona and years have passed. Maybe it’s time to take a serious look at our friendship. Ramona invited us to a wine tasting party this week. Even though Bobby had to come home from work a little early to make it, we showed up. Am a just a glutton for punishment?

    Side comment..how cute are Cindy’s little girls? I am available for babysitting!

    Chris March, from Project Runway, totally outdid himself. He is so talented. Chris call me!

    I have been to the costume store shown in the episode many times for many costumes but NOT the one I wore on Halloween two years ago on the show. I paid under $100 for the entire costume from FRANCO. (available at Halloween stores) If I rented something at this costume rental place it would have been around $350. I was really sick that day but didn’t want to disappoint Sonja. I was on cold medicine so I was acting very silly! We tried on so many costumes, I was exhausted. Luann looks so beautiful in everything but the Scarlett O’Hara costume was perfect.

    Meeting Cindy’s ex boyfriend/baby daddy for the first time was interesting. I don’t know what I expected but I wouldn’t have picked him out of the “lineup.” I see Cindy with a wall street banker (yin and yang theory). One thing I do know? These babies were the most wanted children in the world. Even though her situation is not traditional, if it works for Cindy, I am happy.

    When Sonja is getting ready for the party, we hear her talking about her divorce putting stress on her financially. This is a premonition of what will come. When Sonja said “I don’t have a man around the house”, I wanted to add she has many and they are all so cute! I loved the car she was in! How fun would it be to be driven around in that all day!

    Cipriani is a fabulous event space in NYC that is often used for charity events. They also have an exclusive wine cellar that I had heard about and was very excited. Sonja talks about her fabulous parties and when she said it was a masquerade ball I imagined a long table with waiters behind each chair lifting a silver plate cover at the same time. I actually went to one of those at MOMA last year and had created a fantasy in my head. Bobby and I brought three friends. Two were potential dates for Kelly. Ryan is the gorgeous one in the mask when I walk in. (I know, hard to tell with mask on!) A little inside info? Ryan is staring on Bravo’s NYC version of Million Dollar Listing!

    Ramona was a little “tweaked” when she arrived. Everyone really went all out with their costumes. I have to admit I was a little disappointed. I expected this elaborate dinner and all we were offered were hors d’oeuvre and drinks. Where was dinner? I told Bobby not to eat lunch because we were going to a big fancy party. Maybe it should have been called a masquerade cocktail party instead of a ball.

    When Sonja bent down and I saw her tushie…I died! I immediately put my hand over it. My first reaction was she honestly left it at home. I asked Kelly and Cindy and they both thought she did it on purpose. I said no way! She would never want to show it on TV. never! Then when I saw this episode, did she say she left it home on purpose?

    Alex and I were in a good place that night. Though we aren’t meant to be the best of friends, I am still hopeful we can all get along.

    Going with Cindy to the dentist was one of my favorite scenes ever! In our book Secrets Of A Jewish Mother we have an entire chapter dedicated to Beauty and Health. We give advice on how to find everything like the best Doctor to the dreaded word “exercise”!

    jewish mothers

    Was the scene with Jennifer and Ramona staged? Ramona looked so shocked by the words the bride was saying as if they hadn’t discussed it a thousand times. They both make me sick. I thought the bride and I were friends. After all, she asked me to recommend her to be a Housewife and get an audition which I did. I never thought in a million years the two of them would set me up. Ramona did it last year with Bethenny at her house and now with Alex at the wedding. Different circumstances but the same goal. To catch me off guard, press my buttons and get a reaction. Then when she gets a reaction, she blames and criticizes me for reacting. She openly admitted to enjoying doing this to me the morning of the wedding in episode one. Why didn’t Jennifer tell me in advance that she invited Alex? She knew how I felt about her at the time and it should have been my decision if I wanted to go. Jennifer has told mutual friends that she felt used by Ramona. People left early and couldn’t believe they weren’t told there would be a film crew there. It didn’t say anything on the invitation. People had to hide away from the eight cameras all over the yard. The music had to be turned off or worse, play Bravo house music due to clearance issues. It was embarrassing. I kept apologizing to people as if I brought the cameras. I didn’t. Ramona did. Remember at Ramona’s house she said “why tell Jill? That would ruin the fun?” So why is she so surprised if I was mad at Jennifer?

    I had just came back from Australia and the party was my first time seeing Ramona since the wedding. My friend Vince drove me and I came to support Ramona as I always have in the past. I was having a nice conversation with some of the guests when Ramona had to pull me away and attack me. The bride was across the room. Again, Ramona is mad at me over something someone else said I said. I said, “bring her over”! I had NOTHING to hide. Whatever I said I meant. Details not important. He said, she said, all I know is Ramona invited me to her party to make a scene so her party wouldn’t get cut from editing. That’s how it works. If you have a lot of housewives and fight at your party, it is a virtual guarantee to make final editing. I showed up to Ramona’s party to help her and once again, she uses me. But this time, I was calm. She was wired and acting insane. Everyone had been talking about her attacking Howie at Cindy’s Birthday party and a lot of other things regarding Ramona.

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    Ramona refused to bring Jennifer over to talk to me to my face but she didn’t expect me to see her on the way out. I spoke to Jennifer and it is what it is. We both remember it differently and will never agree as to what happened. But Ramona? She says I should talk to her face, I say “fine lets have lunch” and she says ” I’ll think about it”? She didn’t expect me to be so calm. She thought if she pushed my buttons again I would react. I have changed. I listened to her “complaints” and offered to meet her alone for lunch to talk about it. I asked her a few times for lunch and and you will see what happens.

    By the time she “balled me out” and embarrassed herself in front of all her guests, I was really hurt. I realized once again that no matter how hard I try to “show up” and be supportive for certain people, it will never be enough. If I was really bad mouthing her behind her back for years do you think it would have taken her this long to confront me? Are you kidding. Ramona has no self control and even if she wanted to hold it in, she couldn’t. Ramona is a drama queen. He said, she said. Enough said.

    I think I will take my toys and go home.


    Jill XO

    I am happy to report that @realgingerzarin is doing well and Dr. Cindy Bressler is coming today to remove her stitches!

    • Katiecoo says:

      “I think I will take my toys and go home.”

      Please please please please PLEASE and take this tanking show right with you. I like NY but this one needs an entirely new crew. Hey Bravo how about some younger fun, attractive girls a la Sex and the City but some of them married? How about them apples?

      • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

        Exactly. Why not get people like Ivanka Trump and some of her friends (NOT Tinsley Mortimer though) and some people who are regularly featured on NY Social Diary, etc? The reason why I started watching the show is because they would sometimes attend some of the same restaurants, stores, etc that I have been to (Saks, 21 Club, etc) and I found their lives fun and fascinating. Not anymore!!

        • nathania says:

          I don’t want to watch women in their 20’s and early 30’s. They dominate the whole rest of television. What makes these shows unique is they are practically the only franchise on television that is not marketed toward 18 to 49 year old males and using young (i.e. premenopausal) woman to sell their shows and products to marketers. I am saddened the executives at Bravo have so little respect for their audience, but if they knock the age group down to below 40, or at least 35 plus, I have no motivation to watch. Bravo just needs to use women who are less personality disordered or less emotionally disturbed and get rid of the Teresa’s, the Kellys, the Jills, etc.

          • Bloshka says:

            I can’t imagine a regular, emotionally healthy woman would want her life on television. It’s either for business or because the women have a psychological need to be famous.

            Would you put your life on television?

          • kit9 says:

            Bingo. That was one of the problems with RYOM-I think.

      • Christine says:

        Jill also goes on and on about everyone pushing her buttons. I imagine they have a lot of buttons at Zarin Fabrics. They probably also have zippers – Jill should switch to those.

    • Kukulet says:

      All lies. Very sad.

    • error404 says:

      “We both come from Long Island, both Jewish, and we are the same age.”

      Shut up! Stop reading off the same script “Cynthia” used in her blog too!

      I have plenty of Jewish female friends from LI, and none of them are the unmitigated bitches you two harpies are. Just be truthful! “Once I met Cindy and realized that she too is a misery guts who pulls ugly faces and constantly needs to put down everything and everyone just so she can feel a little better about herself, I knew we were just the same!”

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I cannot possibly begin to indulge so many, varied and vile neuroses. I am speechless.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      =“Ramona’s core is not good” it validated a lot of the feelings I have had over the years. ==

      She always seems to need someone to put down and victimize and pretend to be victimized by them.

      Thanks for posting that so I don’t have to go to the Bravo site.

  35. lillybee says:

    When if ever will Jill own up to her nasty behavior.

    • kitkat says:

      NEVER. Like a child, she tells a lie, and then actually BELIEVES said lie. Like George Costanza said, “It’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill only owns what she wants to own – her bad behavior is never her fault. Her blog is one big joke – OWN IT Zarin!

  36. m293131 says:

    I am completely confused. I try to read this blog everyday but I think I missed something. I remember a Vince from New York posting frequently here a while back but he was Jill Zarin friend? How did that happen? You mean Jill sent another spy over here?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Vinnie visited here as an enamored Jill fan who was kicked off her blog/twitter for no reason. He would go on about his love for Jill and then made the mistake of bashing Bethenny – @Boston called bullshit on him and he sniffed, licked his wounds and left. IMO he is not the same guy who was on the show but is likely one of Jill’s family members. Jill can’t stay away from this blog because her veins are full of hate and she needs the fix.

      • Delighted says:

        Speaking of past posters, where is WSL these days? I always enjoyed her posts.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I think Vinny was to young to be friends with Jill. I couldn’t see them having anything in common other that a mutual adoration for Jill Zarin.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          OR so he led us to believe…..

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            IDK- I have been to his facebook page where and there were tons of pictures of him, him doing yoga, with family and friend. Pictures were tagged with family members profiles.

            It seems way too elaborate to be a rouse.

            IMO- he was just a young gay kid, that for whatever reason found JZ appealing. I can’t say I understand it…but all kinds of awful people have a few followers.

    • Jezzibel says:

      He seemed decent enough, and we don’t know enough young about Vincenzio to assume anything mean-hearted. All of JZ minions that have come on to the blog to confront us have hissed and spit and left once we started laughing at them. But if Vincenzio was a minion I think his approach was more intelligent and shows that JZ’s minions are capable of thinking for themselves, I’d rather have a someone capable of self-think then blind rage, anyday.

  37. Delighted says:

    WWHL: my theory about why Jill scored so well on the therapy poll is that “therapy”implies that a person could actually be helped..there isn’t any therapy that could help Jill. No way. No how.

  38. Katiecoo says:

    Just one more thought before work. Jill blames others for not salvaging her ruined relationship with Bethenny by not somehow doing some kind of “intervention” then in the next moment slams Ramona for doing just that.

    Narcissists just never get it right, make up reality moment by moment, never think anyone is “tracking” their veracity and always as in ALWAYS are the victim in any uncomfortable situation.

    The only “changed” I see in Jill is some kind of acting lessons where she’s learned to “appear calm” in these conflicts where she would normally show her true seething nature but of course it flies out in the very next scene, on her blog, etc. That’s the “change” I see and she’s right, it’s all about acting.

  39. Sus says:

    I thought Kelly showed her true self last night on WWHL. What an ass saying Bethenny’s success is due to Bravo. What other Bravo reality star received anything close to 120M for their product(s)?

    My thoughts for last night’s HW show: Sonja should keep her butt covered at all costs! I was embarrassed for her last night. Something is wrong with her. She must not have a full length mirror. Otherwise, she would have saw how gross the back of her thighs looked. She could be really hot if she’d cover up a little bit and instead of an old lady that doesn’t realize she doesn’t have 18 year old thighs anymore. She comes across so desperate.

    I’m finding the “Ramona is an alcoholic” storyline interesting. I don’t drink at all so not sure what is normal or not with drinking wine during the day. I was embarrassed for Ramona when she didn’t know the technical details of how her wine was made. Lulu definitely knew she was putting Ramona on the spot. I didn’t think Lulu’s questions were out-of-line since they were at the launch party for the Pinot. I’m surprised Ramona didn’t give a little presentation about it.

    • Lavalady says:

      Kelly showed her true colors on WWHL in regard to the Bethenny questions……….and they ain’t pretty.

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        baby poo brown is the color I am picturing in my mind.

      • Sus says:

        I liked how the clubhouse audience practically boo’d Kelly when she said Bethenny was successful because of Bravo. I wish they would have thrown tomatoes at her.

        • Lavalady says:

          That was my favorite moment of the night. Even Andy asked her something like, “are you sure that’s what you want to say, do you want to say anything else” with the quizzical look on his face.

          • Dani says:

            My favorite also, the woman is just crazy. How that she wouldn’t give Bethenny any credit for her hard work. Yes, Kelly you are a nice person, but only in your own mind.

            • dsc60 says:

              there were a number of comments on her bravo blog slamming her about the statement about bethenny. quite a contrast to the usual lovefest that bravo manipulates.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      While I do think that Ramona should have been able to answer the questions about her wine, based on the previous conversation they had at the launch party; it seemed to me like LuLu wasn’t asking out of a sincere interest but wanted to put Ramona in her place.

      I think Ramona should have seen it coming and prepared herself. I’m sure LuLe spent a great deal of time thinking about all the questions she could ask to try and catch her off guard.

      • Zoey says:

        You’re exactly right! Though not pretty to watch, it shows that Ramona is more honest and not as plotting as Lumann is. After several demanding questions from Lumann, Ramona finally wised up and said ‘later’ or to that effect.

  40. quincyil says:

    I took the link from the commenter Ginger and it went to Jill’s blog. This seems to be someone interested in getting hits to Jill’s blog. I doubt people will bother reading it if they go there.

    More evidence that Jill’s PR staff are interested in Lynn’s blog.

    • Team Jill have been spamming other blogs in the comment section with links that redirect people to Jill’s website. Sometimes they use the phrase. “I don’t know why people hate Jill Zarin”. That particular phrase is hyperlinked and if someone clicks into it, they will be redirected to Jill’s website. Jill is really getting desperate.

      • Noreen says:

        OMG – if Jill would just put all the effort into actually being a good person instead of trying to make people think she is a good person, she could probably end wars and stop famine. How unbelieveably desperate.

      • kitkat says:

        she is a MANIAC! she does nothing all day but sit on her laptop pulling this crazy crap! what a loser…pathetic, empty life. does she even know it’s spring outside????

        • kitkat says:

          And if she’s paying people, that’s even sadder. How do they justify their salaries to her? “Well, Mrs. Zarin, today I went on 3 blogs disguised as Ginger, Susan and Alli and left really insipid posts that were 2 paragraphs long. They recieved 4, 7 and 9 responses respectfully. Then I hyperlinked Ginger’s fake avatar to your blog, which generated 7 new unsuspecting visitors, but I can’t promise that they will return….” I don’t usually use this vulgar expression, but Jill Zarin is a dick.

  41. boston02127 says:

    Did anyone else catch this…when Jill was fake crying in the car to Luann, Jill said about Ramona. We’re done.

    I can’t wait for Romana to pull out of it and tell Jill where the dog died.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Totally caught the patented Zarin “were done”! Go ahead Zarin throw it down – Ramona is going to call you out cause she saw what you did to Bethenny last year! First, Jill will send the Goon and Ramona will tell her to stay out of it! By Morocco she will have the Loon and Bafoon primed and ready to attack. Sorry, I will back Ramona in this one!

  42. PJ says:

    Why do I feel that there is an off camera alliance between Countless Loo, Jillousy, and Krazy Besomeone, these three seem to be working a plan? The three dear old amigos or a I think of them, the unholy triumvirate, seem to have hatched this plan to go after Ramona and make her seem like an out of control drunk while marginalizing Alex by making sort of nice with her. Meanwhile rehabilitating Krazy, Jillousy going for the sympathy card with her tears, and Countless Loo trying desperately to become relevant with her being an expert on every subject and butting in where she has no idea what’s going on. But even as Jillousy sometimes makes nice on camera, off camera she proves anything but and anything but on camera too in all honesty. These women claimed that without Bethenny this show wouldn’t be so dark. Really?! This is all just an opinion of course as I have no actual proof of anything.

    • boston02127 says:

      PJ–I totally agree about Jill, Kelly & Luman going in with a plan. A bad one, but a plan.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        You could see the behind the scenes manipulation on last year’s reunion. To be a great puppetmaster you have to be very smart, Jill isn’t as smart as she is petty.

      • nathania says:

        yes because they are sworn, lifetime members of the Useless Bitter Ho Who Married Money Club, and it is their duty to run seek and destroy missions on any female who makes her money without use of the ho stroll. They make me sick.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Ding Ding Ding! Lights flashing and bells ringing! Did you call out Bingo?

    • Christine says:

      Which would explain JZ’s wink. She accuses Ramona of ambushing her when the unholy trio were just awaiting another opportunity.
      That inquisition by LuAnn was prepared in advance and meant only to try and embarrass Ramona. LuAnn googled some shit about wine and then went to work.
      I can see both JZ and LuAnn in the 2nd grade going ooh-ooh, teacher, call on me, I Know! I Know!

  43. LeaLea says:

    I am really really upset with Bravo. Any viewer with insight can see that Jilly, Kelly and Luanne have clearly started a smear campaign against Ramona to make her look like an alcoholic. It is disgusting.
    And I just read through the comments on the blogs, and all the comments for Cindy, Kelly and Luanne are positive, while the comments for Ramona and Alex are mostly negative. I have tried to post positive commetns for Ramona and Alex–but they magically fail to appear. Similarly, I’ve tried to post negative comments for Cindy, Jill and Luanne and Kelly and they always fail to appear. I am no convinced that Bravo is trying to maniupate its viewers into feeling a certain way about each caste member. For whatever reason, they still support the Jill, Kelly Luanee group and have it in for Alex and Ramona. I am very close to boycotting the network altogether because I feel maniuplated.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      You are here because Bravo does not allow diversity of opinions on their blogs. You will find this place far more satisfying that Bravoland.

    • T-REX says:

      This is one of the reasons I am not watching RHNY this year. I refuse to watch this sh*tfest and waste time when I can hang out here and read the blogs and the posts and none of my posts are pulled and they are always available. I am going to look up the ratings and see how badly they are doing this year, I would bet it’s way down. In fact, I think Ramona’s tweet was to get more people to watch the show, yes to see JZ implode on her own lies, but to get some live human beings to actually watch.

      • nathania says:

        I think it’s dropped because some of the novelty has worn off. Like survivor or the amazing race, or any other reality type show, eventually it gets old and the next big thing comes along. It might fill a niche…well, it COULD fill a niche but it seems Bravo is determined to completely wreck the possibility of that.

    • cabbie413 says:

      I guess i’m boycotting now..I am not watching rhony anymore (until the reunion) but I will be on the blog and tweeting!

      • Maryla says:

        I think I’m with the two of you. I am done with this show. It makes me feel bad for having wasted my time with these self-absorbed nobodies.

        It used to be that you could watch the Housewives and see real people in the way they live their lives—with happy moments and struggle, to see them with their family and children. In some moments you could almost think to yourself, “I wonder what it would be like to live like that, to have such a nice house and all that money.”

        I haven’t had that thought for a long long time. I wouldn’t swap my life for any of these scheming grifters. (Except Bethenny, but she’s no longer a HW).

        And I think that is because this show has evolved into a bunch of botoxed egomaniacs backstabbing each other at cocktail parties. There is nothing real about these women or the situations they find themselves in.

        The scenes are just setups for made-up conflict. The seasons are just clusters of scenes haphazardly put together. There is no story, no continuity.

        I mean honestly, what kind of a “friend” berates a bride about her guest list? MAYBE a bitchy new mother-in-law. Certainly not a guest. This is just unheard-of behavior. But it fits with the Bravo M.O. It is just like the Kyle-Camille fight. They want to film a whole season around two seconds of one meaningless conversation. Made up nonsense.

        Many on this board have alluded to a “smear campaign” against Ramona and Alex. If there were any doubts about that, last night’s episode solidified it, at least for me. The setup was getting Jennifer to tell Ramona, and then setting these women up artificially in one room (at an “event”) to see the sparks fly.

        And the linchpin to the drama is so obviously Jill — who is just the worst kind of scheming, petty, nasty liar. And Bravo somehow scoured the streets of Manhattan to find another woman who can be equally loose with the truth—Cindy. I can’t imagine behaving in such a dishonest manner with my so-called “friends.” Lying to people in such a calculating manner. It is disgusting.

        But it is the same with the backstabbing Tamra and the self-absorbed Vicki (and Alex and Peggy). If these women didn’t have means, they’d be grifters for sure.

        All that said, I am happy to be able to come to this board and get the scoop. Somehow I do find myself interested in these women! Go figure on that. I am honestly grateful for those who watch the shows and blog and comment about them.

        So Thank you to the Lynn/Quincy show and the IHJZ bloggers and PPHHTTT to the Housewives franchise and Andy Cohen.

  44. LeaLea says:

    Sorry about all the typos. I’m just so upset!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Don’t worry about the typos. A lot of us wish there was an edit button here to fix our own.

  45. boston02127 says:

    I can take Jill. You kind of know what to expect with her nasty self. I laugh at her more than I cringe. Kelly on the other hand makes me cringe. Everytime she opens that mouth of hers I want to bang my head against a wall.

  46. Lavalady says:

    I don’t understand the part of Jill’s blog that describes filming the wedding. It almost seems as if she is saying Ramona brought the film crew to the wedding without permission of the bride. I doubt that. She writes as if the film crew ruined the wedding.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      If there was even the slightest chance of being filmed, wouldn’t the guests have to sign a release? I’ve had to in the past. One example was when a restaurant I was at happened to be filming a commercial for the establishment. I had to sign a release, or go somewhere else for that meal.

    • quincyil says:

      They ruined it for Jill. They filmed her comments and what statements that were not filmed were testified to by the bride who I believe.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Jill wants people to believe her and doesn’t realize not every viewer is gullible. Bravo had all their ducks in a row for the wedding shoot and Jill put her foot in her mouth with her lame explanation.

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        Empress Quincy, I believe her, too! Jill had no business involving herself (or trying to) into the guest list or any other aspect of the wedding. You receive an invitation, you RSVP, you attend or don’t attend according to the RSVP reply you provided. All other details are the business of the families involved in the marriage. How about those apples Countess SBHH?

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      People fled the wedding because their were cameras there? Really? Because never before in the history of weddings has there being a video camera?

      Was this a mob wedding?

      Jill is such a liar.

  47. Stella says:

    Did anyone else notice that when Kelly arrived at Sonja’s party, Sonja sniffed Kelly? It was weird. Did she like her perfume or did she get a whif of “cat pee” like she did in Kelly’s room on Scary Island?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Didn’t Sonja say something about Kelly smelling good? Kelly replied it was perfume – an odd conversation. Wouldn’t you say, “I love your perfume! What is it?” Good catch!

      • Stella says:

        oh thanks, I didn’t hear Sonja say that. I just saw the sniff and thought it was odd.

    • nathania says:

      i’m guessing ganja.

  48. Kats2 says:

    Kelly and New Girl looked like two Drag Queens together very ugly Drag Queens. No wonder they get along, I wonder which one uses the strap on or better yet, which one doesn’t need a strap on.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I think RuPaul has two perfect candidates for Drag U.

    • nathania says:

      I just had an epiphany. Ramona introduced the crew to Cindy but Ramona is not exactly the demographic Cindy is marketing to. Who is? KKK and friends, all the ‘young, hip’ people that Kelly appears to hang out with. Cindy might be just cold-blooded enough to look at this as a marketing opportunity through and through, a pure business decision, so of course she’s going to situate herself with arguably the most sexually ‘active’ or potentially sexually active person in the cast.

      I know Cindy thinks Kelly is a moron, that much was clear when Kelly was sending the text.

      But her climbing up Kelly’s tree for marketing/networking reasons is brilliant. I mean if she is going to use this oppty, choose the only cast member that was asked to pose in Playboy. Cindy probably had this planned the entire time, to stick to Kelly like glue, and for god’s sake to NOT align herself with anyone perceived as ‘over the hill’ like Ramona, so she may have been intentionally burning bridges with Ramona in every conceivable way on purpose.

  49. WindyCityWondering says:

    Think about this: Bravo had to have talks with all the cast about “Kelly” and how to act around her this season. Never will I stop believing that she is on meds, is being fed her storylines and has handlers close by. Ramona wasn’t as receptive to the be nice to the crazy girl Bravo talk. So now Jill is using it (via Kelly and her nasty talk about Ramona’s alcohol consumption and mental state) this season to her full advantage. Ramona stands between her and the queen bee position.

    • Nancy says:

      I feel like his is going to be BH Housewives “let’s go after Kim” all over again but with Ramona as the star drunk.

    • Stella says:

      That makes perfect sense. Ramona obviously does not like ignoring how Kelly behaved and that would explain why the producers or whoever edits the show would have a motive to show her in a bad light with the over drinking storyline. We know why the ladies have issues with her but I couldn’t figure out why those behind the scenes would go along with their “plan”. It would also explain why LuAnn went from agreeing with Bethenny, Ramona, and Alex on how Kelly behaved on Scary Island during the reunion to acting like nothing ever happened.

    • Christine says:

      I have the feeling that both Bravo and the Killoren family may have intervened on Kelly’s behalf. I can’t believe that her parents could have been happy or proud of her on Scary Island. There may have also been some words from her ex regarding their children’s care.

  50. error404 says:

    So.. will there be an new chapter on weddings added to the moldy book?

    When invited to a wedding of a friend, make sure to badger the bride about who is and isn’t invited. Should you still be harboring a petty grudge with someone from 6 months ago, make sure to refuse to attend friends wedding if the person you are feuding with is also invited. Always remember, you are the most important person involved in everything. Supporting a friend on the happiest day of her life should always take a backseat to your own petty feuds.

    Should your nemesis be at the same wedding, make sure to react is as classless as dramatic way as possible. If the bride suggests that she was hurt by your behavior, make sure to publicly denounce her.

    • Delighted says:

      And be sure to remind the bride of all the things you’ve done for her in the past..like getting an audition for RHNY, all the fabulous people you’ve introduced her to, etc.

    • lillybee says:

      Jill’s new rule. If you invite Jill to any social event, make sure that Jill gets to review the guest list. Very important. Jill does not like to hang with whoever she considers socially inferior.

    • Christine says:

      Nice one error. LuAnn might add a chapter to her book dah-ling.

  51. NYCer says:

    I know people on this blog like Simon, but I think he made a total fool out of himself last night. 1) he was singing live, but also over a track 2) he was shaking life a leaf 3) he was reading his own lyrics and 4) he had this weird affectation of keeping his mouth open in between lines of the song. Very unpleasant to watch.
    I say, go ahead and try to make money for your family, but don’t start with the bs about how you’ve been involved in music since forever and it shouldn’t be a surprise that you are putting out a single, because last night was the least polished performatnce the clubhouse has seen, and that was a low bar.

    • Delighted says:

      I liked it. Unpolished or not, it was totally tongue in cheek and took guts to perform on live TV. I think he knew he’d get torn to shreds but soldiered on.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I agree with you. It was completely embarrassing to watch. So far the only HW who for whatever reason was able to make a little cash grab was Kim but even then she is routinely mocked and ridiculed for it. The rest are none the richer for bring themselves to an even more ridiculous low.

      Even LoverBoy doesn’t wear leather pants anymore.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Of course Simon was nervous, but I’ll give him credit for having the guts to get up there and do it. At least he is singing, not just talking into a microphone and calling it singing….The Countess has far more experience in front of a camera. She did that horrid plum TV show a few years ago and was allowed to film way too many episodes. One would think she was sleeping with someone to get and keep that gig.

    • Kats2 says:

      I agree HOWEVER, so did LuMan. It took guts for both of them to get up and sing and both were equally cringe worthy. Of course Lulu thinks she has talent but minus the leather pants their acts/singing ability is pretty equal. I don’t think LuMan’s bulge would look good in leather.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      his performance had a karioke feel to it but he did manage to not make a complete asshat out of himself – the lyrics were really funny

    • VAgirl says:

      I like Simon and I agree with you. I’m not giving him a pass for that performance even if I do like him.

      • HeyAll says:

        I like him but maybe he should do a men’s line of clothing instead? lol The song itself is catchy in that cheesy sort of way. I like it *blushes*

    • kitkat says:

      I wouldn’t say what they did took “guts”. It’s not like Luann and Simon and Kim were all dying to be singers all their lives like kids who sing day and night, go to performing arts schools, study music, drag themselves to countless auditions…etc. The Housewife trio that suddenly discovered they needed to sing are whores plain and simple. They saw an opportunity for uninterrupted stage time, where they don’t have to compete with the other banshees for as long as they can warble their “tunes”. And that’s all they really want. As much unshared camera time as possible. Guts has nothing to do with it.

      • NYCer says:

        Yes! I agree- guts had nothing to do with it. He’s putting himself forward as a singer (he’s not even a Housewife!) and he was horribly uncomfortable to watch. Simon, go get your day job back.
        Can you imagine Bobby or Mario releasing a single? Maybe Howie will be next.

  52. Sus says:

    LOL – I forgot Simon’s singing. It was cringe worthy. I hope he’s polishing his resume and sending to hotels because he probably isn’t going to be the next Lady Gaga even though he has the wardrobe to compete with her.

  53. Zoey says:

    Jill lies so much and then denies it, what we need to do is follow her around with a camera so we can prove it to her, then she’ll have to realize how much she lies. Oh wait…..

    This has been, and is continuing to be, a wonderful distraction from worrying about whether or not we will flood! Thanks you guys. I’m in Nola, but my family is in poor Morgan City (home of the FIRST offshore oil rig in the world, and the oldest festival in the state!), and Berwick, La. MC is likely to flood. The rest of us, it’s up in the air. IF the levees hold, IF the corp knows what they’re saying-yeah, right, IF no barge hits a levee, IF the Morganza spillway closes, and many more unknown IF’s. Breathe….

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Take care and be ready to do what you have to stay safe.

      • Zoey says:

        Great advice, thanks WCW. If I have to evacuate I hope there is internet wherever I go so I can come here! Gots my priorities straight, ha.

        • VAgirl says:

          Zoey. If you have to evacuate, come on up to VA and stay with me. Of course I think we’re going to have bad weather the next couple of days, but at lease we’re not expecting flooding.

          • Zoey says:

            Aw, Vagirl, you are so sweet! That warms my heart to know that you care. I appreciate it.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          If you have to evacuate- some stay with me in sunny California. Mickey is calling you 🙂

    • Christine says:

      Zoey, plenty of room here, too. We’re in South Carolina.
      (might have to share a bed with a dog though)

  54. Smompy says:

    I love the RHoNYC this season because I don’t even have to watch the show itself (and run the risk of having my head explode after witnessing one too many of JZ’s manipulative, drama-queen moments) to know exacty what’s going on. By watching WWHL and its related clips, perusing the Bravo blogs, and, best of all, reading the recaps and comments here, I don’t have to miss a damn thing:)

    OK, so from the Bravo blogs I learned that Alex is probably the only genuinely kind and decent HW in the NY cast. In all honesty, she’s probably too good a person to even be on a show like this.

    Sonja is playing the fence but is (usually) smart enough to know when to defend someone, when to attack someone, and when to just back off. I do give points for being smart, and even though she’s had some annoying moments, I don’t really dislike her yet.

    Cindy, I don’t get. Sometimes she seems like a moron. Other times not so much. I read a few news articles about her, and it appears she is in fact an astute businesswoman. I mean, it’s not like she was plucking vadge hairs at some salon and just happened to get lucky. In fact she used a good idea and her own skills to create and rapidly grow a business that is very successful and evidently VERY lucrative. And that’s why I don’t get her on this show. Either she doesn’t know she’s being used by the mean girls, who would obviously throw her under the bus in a heartbeat when push comes to shove, or she does know it and is willingly going along with them anyway. In either case, she makes herself look kinda stupid. And if acting stupid weren’t bad enough, what the hell is up with the lying? I mean, this woman seems to lie COSTANTLY. Even when it doesn’t benefit her, she lies anyway, even about seemingly inconsequential things. It feels pathological. WTF, Cindy? I wanted to like you, but sorry, so far you just suck.

    Kelly is still the same: slightly kooky but mostly I think she just ACTS kooky as a means to justify her being a selfish, self-important, self-induldgent, malicious bitch to anyone who doesn’t kiss her leathery, mannish ass.

    Jill is an ugly, evil, emotionally-retarded dimwit who has not changed and WILL NOT CHANGE, Nuff said.

    Lulu was always an instigator, but at this point I see her as a total C.U. Next Tuesday. She’s a nasty, rotten piece of garbage who has zero redeeming qualities as far as I can tell. Just die, Luann. The rest of is could use the extra oxygen. Yes, I officially dislike her that much now.

    Ramona has become a tragic figure to me. I’ve liked her (in general) for a long time, although she’s never been what most people would usually think of as a “nice person,” I mean, think about it. If you weren’t able to compare and contrast Ramona with these other evil harpies from NYC, would she look so awfully appealing? Not to me, she woulnd’t. But since I AM able to compare and contrast her with the likes of Jill, LuAnn, Kuku and now Cindy, I do see her more positive qualities and realize she does basically have a good heart. And that makes it tragic for me to see her treated this way now. It’s bad enough that she has to deal with the mindgames and traps of JZ and her minions, but it’s pretty clear that Bravo itself has also set her up to be the pariah this season. I don’t know if it’s because she punched one of them or what, but clearly the editors are doing everything in their power to make Ramona look bad. With an overemotional and occasionally unstable person like Ramona, there’s no real sport in witnessing all these attacks and barbs against her. In fact it’s disturbing, frustrating and sad.

    …and on that note, to Andy Cohen, every time I start to like you again, you act like an asshole and remind me who you really are. THe funny part is that I probably wouldn’t even dislike who you really are if you just owned it for once, but no, you always go back to acting shocked and/or offended by the very things you yorself carefully set up. There was absolutely nothing funny about that doctored clip montage with Ramona’s heartfelt emotional pain being used as a poor attempt at humor. That was on a par with filming some mourners at a funeral, then splicing together bits and pieces of their tears and grief, setting it all to a Benny Hill soundtrack and expecting people to laugh. Fail. And BTW you can stop acting like you were so shocked by what that mean old Cat did to the poor, noble Countess on your show, You also set that situation up yourself. We all know that, and anyone with half a brain could see that you totally ate that shit up too. So stop fronting already…as if you couldn’t imagine (and didn’t hope) that something like that would happen on your oh-so-dignified show.
    “Wah, wah wah, oh, I felt SO uncomfortable when that happened to LuAnn!”
    Yeah right! You probably popped a boner, you lying, cross-eyed bastard!!!

    OK, now I feel a little better. Carry on, all!

    • Delighted says:

      Well said!

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      Exactly. I think Andy-Pandy dictates exactly what scenes are cut and what scenes appear on the final episodes. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing and he loves to be a silent bitch in amongst the loud bitches.

      • nathania says:

        he absolutely does.

        I posted an excerpt from an article in Bloomberg a few weeks ago that was written before the season was delayed, and the author described him in his office going over every single scene, moment by moment at one point saying “no, Luann has to be more offended” and ordering a close up shot (after the fact I guess) so that Luann’s reaction would appear more pronounced. And then he went onto the next scene.

        So it’s clear Andy has absolute control over this show.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      That was awesome! I agree with you! This last episode put me in a really bad mood and has me contemplating not watching anymore. I just wanted to bash my head against a wall but I realized I can change the channel rather than give myself a headache (with migraines I really don’t need any extra help in that department).

      I found this link and thought it might give a few folks a laugh.


    • Christine says:

      This is also why we love Lynn for having this blog. We can rant and everyone here understands. Very cathartic.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Most definitely. Otherwise, I think I would live in Kellyland (or my version) and that is a scary thought!

  55. Alexa Rose says:

    Why is Kelly’s blog this week a rhyming poem? Goes to show how much that Columbia degree paid off.

    • aquamarinecandy-o83 says:

      It sounds like something Napoleon Dynamite’s brother Kip would type out when he was chatting with Ladawnduh online….lol

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Looks like somebody showed her what a thesaurus is used for.

    • nathania says:

      I’ve actually heard a couple people say that they got stuck rhyming uncontrollably after doing way too many drugs. LOL.

      (that’s true btw)

  56. error404 says:


    ITA, the whole premeditated “she’s drunk” plot line is cruel and vindictive. The more I hear it, the more I want to run out and buy a bottle of Ramona pinot!

    • lillybee says:

      I want to buy one too.

    • Stella says:

      I didn’t read your comment yet and I posted a quote from this article below. I think it is outrageous what the ladies are doing to Ramona. Of course she’s not perfect but hello they all have issues that are really harmful to their reputations.

      Also I wish we could make a montage of every instance we’ve seen Jill, LuAnn or Kelly behave exactly the opposite of how they say they behave or that others should behave and send it to Bravo and they could use it in the reunion to confront them. Even if we did something like that Bravo wouldn’t use it but I REALLY wish they would.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I agree. I wonder what a case would run? Wouldn’t a Ramona Pinot sales explosion tickle Ramona and make Jillz’s head explode! Bawby………….

      • Delighted says:

        I’ll go for a case. I’m pissed at both Bravo and those broads. Seems to be the formula that each season needs a victim. Ramona’s no saint but doesn’t deserve this.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        That would be awesome! I can hear her now. “Bawby, she did it to me again!”

        To Delighted (below) So true! It’s gang up on Ramona season, let ruin her. She isn’t a saint and makes some blunders but she doesn’t deserve to be treated like this at all! It’s disgusting.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          That goodness Bawby is self employed…could you imagine what kind of peril his job would be in if he had to take personal calls to talk his shrew wife off of a ledge every time she got her comeuppance?

        • HD says:

          Actually, Ramona constantly talking about it has had the opposite effect on me. I don’t want it at all!

  57. kotagirl29 says:

    Hi All,

    I wanted to tell everyone the good news! If Leo has a good weekend he will get to go home Monday or Tuesday!!! They have finally gotten his meds straightened out and as long as he doesn’t have any more panic attacks this weekend he gets to go home. You can imagine how excited he his after three weeks in the hospital. So if all goes well we can get him in the stem cell program in Houston by the first of June. He has to be well stabilized before he can travel the 900 miles. They want to make sure that his new pace maker is working okay (the leads on his old one were under recall) and they want to get his sugar in a normal range before they will okay him for the trip, but today is a GOOD news day!!!!

  58. Zoey says:

    Tweet today by Kelly Bensimon:

    ‘Getting ready for @soulcyclenyc. Tomorrow I’m reading NancyDrew at Bookhampton. Who’s coming?’

    Lawd, you can’t make this stuff up. This loon is going to be reading to people (or children?). What’s next, Jill will be a counselor, Lumann will teach celibacy classes, and Sonja will teach the art of being subtle.

    • lillybee says:

      Nancy Drew?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I know – Nancy Drew?! Don’t get me wrong, she empowered girls 60 years ago but you would think a more up to date heroine would be in order. Kudos to Kelly for attempting to read a book with WORDS in it!

      • nathania says:

        she’s helping Kelly to search for a clue

  59. MichellefromNY says:

    Lynn, I have to disagree with you about jennifer. She WAS trying to tell jill that she said what she said. But jill talked over her and wouldn’t let her talk. And instead of dealing with her crap, she agreed to jill’s truce just to get her to shut up.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I saw it that way too – just wished Jennifer would have rolled her eyes when Jill had her in that boa constrictor hug.

    • Asd says:

      IA. The look on her face as Jill pulled her into a hug said it all.

  60. Stella says:

    Here’s a quote from Vulture that mirrors the feelings and comments expressed here by people here:

    I’d like to say something about the alcoholic plotline that the producers and other housewives are clearly preparing for Ramona. First of all, Bravo, you created this monster. You identified her so much with Pinot Grigio that she came out with her own line of it. She can’t go to rehab now because she has a vested financial interest in continuing to drink. And in truth, Ramona’s only acting so confrontational because Bravo makes that sort of entertainment value a requirement for remaining on the show. It’s disingenuous to say to a cast member: “Act crazy!” and then edit the show to make it seem like she’s doing so because she has a drinking problem. Not that she’s not crazy, really, but come on guys — that’s cheap.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Other sites are bringing this up as well – cheap shot Bravo, very cheap shot.

  61. Zoey says:

    I would love to know what Jill Z’s repuation was in New York and the Hamptons before HW, and what it is now. Amongst ‘her’ crowd and such.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I was wondering the same. Add to it the bleeped out names of her “friends” she was trying to say were drunk and out of line at Jennifer’s wedding. IMO her circle is getting smaller and smaller.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      I’ll bet it’s pretty much the same. She’s just confirmed what they suspected all along…….

    • Christine says:

      So she won’t have to worry about guest lists when she stops receiving invitations. Can’t believe that the real socialites of Manhattan and the Hamptons want JZ’s stench around.

  62. Lavalady says:

    I truly, truly, really, really, authentically and organically feel it is time for RHNYC to recast the show.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      ITA – cull the herd by at least 50 percent. Take out the mean girls and lets start over with interesting women who have families, businesses and higher self esteem.

  63. AZ Girl says:

    Ok. 818 posts on Chat blog. Another 200 here. Trying to get caught up on my phone and I am going blind. Still visions of Sonja butt implanted in my brain. Lynn..do you provide disability insurane for us? 🙂

  64. error404 says:

    I thought Brenda and Billy, sorry I mean Cindy and Howie, were in business together? How much of the spa’s success is her or him, or is there no way to tell.

    I also hate to applaud people’s business savy as they get rich selling rabid dogs to orphans. LOL SUVs, McMansions, pesticide, genetically modified food, Asbestos… the world is full of great business models that have a dubious impact on society. I reserve my right to make fun of the woman who got rich by convincing women to treat their vaginas like a tween’s cellphone case! So…. we’ve seen all the money she splashes out on herself thanks to Bravo, but how much does she donate to cervical cancer awareness? People love to bash Nene for having a charity helping abused women, but at least she’s doing something. What has Cindy Barshop done for your vagina ..LATELY!

    • MichellefromNY says:

      error, as much as I normally agree with you and your hilarious observations, I’m actually a huuge fan of completely bare. Maybe it’s my age (23) but I think vjazzling actually sounds hot. I’m planning on getting it soon. Yes, barshop goes a little far with the services she offers like vatooing, but I love her salons. She’s also insane, but I tend to separate people from their wares they’re hawking. I judge the wares themselves. I think barshop is a savvy business woman, just an awful person in general. I met many people like that. Jill, on the other hand, is not only an awful person, but an awful businesswoman.

      • Sia says:

        I think it depends. I’m 24 and I think it would be uncomfortable and childish looking.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          LOL You know they sell those stickers everywhere including the ….wait for it…..DollarStore! I could understand the waxing but the blinging out? I’m sure it’s pricey.

          Why is it that HW’s try to make a shallacking on products that are sold/made so cheaply? We had Claude (Dina) making tacky decorations and a $500 centerpiece that looked like $70 bucks worth of ornaments pearls and branches in a urn. Teresa’s headbands for $26 bucks that cost $2.10 for 1 band, 1 flower and 1 jewel out the pack!

          And now Cindy pasting stickers to a vag. I just wonder who she stole idea from? Probably some young shiny chick told the most drab unimaginative woman in the universe about her plans after waxing. Go figure.

          • Sus says:

            I’m tempted to do that Vadazzling thing just so I can watch my husband’s reaction when he sees it. After he finishes dying laughing, he’d want to know how much it cost and then he’d wouldn’t be laughing anymore.

      • error404 says:

        fair enough. She obviously sells stuff people want to buy! I’m probably the only person alive who always thought SUVs were a stupid idea. Half the world drives them! LOL

        • Nancy says:

          Not me error, (I hate them)
          and I also don’t visit Cindy’s salon.

        • Okie Folkie says:

          Me too, error, me too! SUV are gas guzzlers and I dont care to have my naughty parts looking a) like a pubescent child…or b) a tweens cell phone cover!

          I just dont care for either.
          BUT I hate JZ, KooKooCaDoo, Countess SBHH & Ms. Barstool.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I have an SUV- I think I just fell into the Orange County Mom thing.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Here’s the thing. If I think someone is a horrible person I sure as hell am not going to give them my money for a service I’m sure you can get somewhere else. Not trying to be a mean girl here just my opinion.

      • nathania says:

        thanks you know for describing more of her services and I just have to note as a lesbian that Cindy seems really, really, really into (in the sense of interested in) vaginas.

        I mean, not as someone who makes use of them, but in the sense of someone who likes to look at them, and imagines dressing them up.

        Things that make you go hmmm…

        Because for the majority of women posters here who are straight women how many of you imagine yourselves face to face with a vagina and then go, ‘you know, that would look so cute with purple and blue rhinestones all around it.’

        just sayin.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      you know what error404? You’re starting to piss me off with this sh*t.

      This is my career. I would 12+hours a day, and make over 6 figures a year. I provide 20+ employees with good well paying jobs. And no it’s not just about vaginas.

      There are actual diseases that cause hirutism- I should know I have one, and so do over 300 of my Medspa’s patients.

      Bottomline- Cindy is running a business. And a very, very profitable one. She probably went into business with her brother for the same reason I went into business with a male dentist and a male lawyer- women cannot (at least I couldn’t) get the same financial backing as men do.

      Not for nothing Bethenny’s CEO is a man.

      Why is it that since she has a business catering almost exclusively to women and their needs-yes I said needs-so said business is of no value?

      No one has a stranger use a potentially dangerous medical device on their nether regions, and ponies up $1500+, without having some pretty strong emotional reasons. Cindy Barshop was smart enough to tap into a market that was not being served.

      She thought she was smart by going on RHONY to parlay her “fame” into a nationwide chain. I sincerely hope her business can take the hit that Bravo will surely deliver.

      • error404 says:

        I’m sure it is a valid business form. I assume she’s not forcing people into her shop. LOL And I’ve admitted to not knowing a lot about it, since it’s obvious that I personally have no interest in it.

        Your angry reaction is very telling though. btw.

        And no idea what you are getting at with all of that man nonsense. Just because Cindy has a profitable business doesn’t mean that I need to celebrate her a business genius. Like all things in life, it depends somewhat on luck. Tons of people work their asses off and aren’t successful, Cindy isn’t better than other people because of how many hours a week she works. I’m glad she employs people. So does Halliburton. LOL

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          sorry I don’t believe in luck. You make your own luck.

          Why is it telling that I’m getting angry? Boston’s Beth Israel send all of their referrals from the Endrinocology unit to us and you’re treating the industry like it’s some kind of a joke.

          and that’s where we’ll leave it.

          • error404 says:

            OT, but I worked on many buildings at BI back in the 80s. Interesting that they are no longer funding medical procedures in-house.

      • Bloshka says:


        I agree with you. I’m not enamored of Cindy at all, but there is no denying that she created a business that is very successful. She’s very canny and must have worked quite hard to establish herself. If she had luck along the way, it doesn’t take away from her having had a good idea, figured out how to execute it, market it, and turn it into a profitable business.

        Whether or not people who comment here would use Cindy’s services on their own persons (and ladybits), there are enough women who are hairless and decorated. It’s their choice and Cindy’s windfall.

        I say good for Cindy.

      • nathania says:


        oh well, rule me out. 😦

    • Smompy says:

      Yes, that’s it……Cindy and her brother have been reminding me of someone or something but I couldn’t think who or what. It was the Chenowiths!
      And ewwwwwww!

  65. Amber...Real Wife says:

    What a waste of humanity! These women J,aC,K,aL are rude, mean and horrible. Jill encouraging MaryHartman to go against Ramona, M.Hartman fawning over Kookla, Kookla fawning over herself and DasBoot believing she is now a Sommelier by PepeLePew’s Eurotrash injection! I Cant!

    Cindy’s crazy slackjawed ass is jockeying for a position of CrazyJizz’s #1 lackey, while simultaneously crushing on crazy ass Kookookadoo who is in love with her shoes. Stalker anyone? TurquoiseLu has taken a speed course, in between the sheets, on wine making to prove her crazy obsession and harass CrazyMona into admitting she is just a poseur and not invested in her spirits product. Who Cares?

    Meanwhile back in Gotham, CrazyMona is making money hand over fist from multiple businesses, changing her moniker to MoneyMakingMona whilst unknowingly being labled an alcholic with a mean streak by her FrenenemyEnemy Jillzilla & Minions. MancrazySonja, who’s running a unlicensed BarteringBed&Breakfast, left part of her costume back in the townhouse along with her dignity and Alex is CRAZY to want to be included in this bunch of lunatics. These women need to be BakerActed quick!

  66. Did anyone else catch the numerous KCS Cougar jokes Andy was making?

    I can’t believe Kelly on Watch What Happens Live. She appeared to be drinking for once (A Kelly Margarita; ie: Mexican Margarita perhaps) but completely called out Andy Cohen’s Real Housewives Marketing/Self-Promotion platform!

    “I look back on last season and thought it was a lot of fun, I mean we make awesome TV and there’s nothing better than that, that’s my job, we’re supposed to making great TV” handicapping the Real in Real Housewives. Which Phaedra pointed out to NeNe “The only thing you have going for you is being on this show”

    The reference to Cindy being “way up here” since Kelly bragged about her previously working at IBM, you could see Andy on the edge of his chair hoping that Kelly would utter a response about Bethenny, perhaps a resentful statement. However this all changed when a caller called in (as callers tend to do) and asked Kelly’s opinion of Bethenny’s recent Skinny Girl Transaction. Ahem, here we see the curtain pulled all the way back on the Andy Cohen Machine.

    “No I’m not jealous, I think it’s a testament to Bravo, and I think it’s potential for all of us”
    “A testament to Bravo or Bethenny?”
    “A testament to Bravo, and your ability to make stars out of real people it’s unbelievable”

  67. Asd says:

    I hope Jill’s plan to demean Ramona backfires.

  68. kotagirl29 says:

    New York City’s playground, the Hamptons, has experienced a rash of robberies in the past month. The home and garden store has been hit the hardest. In recent weeks several pallets of chandelier and logging chains have been stolen as well two shipments of faux-antique weathervanes and assorted decorative lawn ornaments. Authorities have several leads and witness reports they are following up on. Although unconfirmed, one witness asserts she knows one of the culprits as she was also a patient in the emergency room last year when the suspect was having casts put on both arms.

    In other Hamptons news. . .Countess Luann de lesseps has announced she is launching a new line of jewelry. A party introducing the line will be announced later in the month, but one source close to the Countess reports that the “. . .jewelry is like really authentic and you won’t need like satchels of gold to buy it. It will be like a new, inexpensive trend. I am a trendsetter so I like KNOW trends. It is like really, really wonderful jewelry. And Luann is just a amazing, beautiful, smart women so you know like her stuff will be really great!”

    • lillybee says:

      Sounds like Sandra Lee could be involved. Those are things needed for her tablescapes.

    • Zoey says:

      That’s guffawable! Hilarious!

    • codystl says:

      Will it be like a Mary Kay party?

    • Anna T.E. says:

      “. . .jewelry is like really authentic and you won’t need like satchels of gold to buy it. It will be like a new, inexpensive trend. I am a trendsetter so I like KNOW trends. It is like really, really wonderful jewelry. And Luann is just a amazing, beautiful, smart women so you know like her stuff will be really great!”

      Is this for real? Or is someone imitating Kelly?

      • kotagirl29 says:

        The entire post was my idea of humor.

        • nathania says:

          I hope so. 🙂

          Jewelry by Lou ann…

          to me it looks like it has been hammered out of gardening tools. I have not seen her wear one piece of jewelry that is attractive. She has very, very strange taste. It’s big and gaudy…but then again so is she.

    • fort lauderdale gay says:

      Ladies, begin your neck exercises ASAP and prepare to dig deeply into your pocketbooks if you have any desire to buy jewelry from Countess SBHH. The jewelry will be affordable, in fact, it’ll be cheap, but it’s going to cost a FORTUNE in shipping. Not to rain on LuAnn’s creative parade, remember that just because it fits around the neck, doesn’t make it a necklace. After all, a noose still fits that description……Jacques on the other hand has announced IMMEDIATE plans to begin production of lightweight portable guillotines, because LuAnn so completely convinced him to go with something EUROPEAN.

  69. lillybee says:

    I wonder about Jill’s Lulu and Kelly’s friends outside of the show. At least we have seen Ramona out with non hw friends, same with Alex.

  70. iceNfire says:

    I want a cup of tea but I want it in the blue and white cup. LOL

    • error404 says:

      I thought it was funny too.

      But I was confused. The kid is living with her for free. She asks him to please bring her some tea, and everyone including “friend” Luann is acting like she’s taking advantage and not paying her staff’s wages. Since when is asking a house guest to bring you a cuppa cheating your staff?

      • iceNfire says:

        Don’t care who’s doing the bringing just wondering whats more important, the tea, the blue and white cup or the ability to say such a thing.
        My husband would disown me if I ever said anything like that. Where is Sonja’s husband again? 🙂

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I wouldn’t be shocked to learn she is charge some of these folks room and board. She is hard up for money.

        I also think she fancies her self as some sort of Andy Warhol – with her own gaggle of protegees and her town house is the new Factory.

        • fort lauderdale gay says:

          lillybee, don’t wonder about things that don’t exist. It is sweet of you to think that they have friends, though.

        • nathania says:

          oh gross, they are all fecking her aren’t they.


    • Nancy says:

      Why was Sonja so upset when Cindy started to dance with “the help”?
      Wasn’t that the same guy that brought her the tea in the blue & white cup?

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I think Sonja was annoyed with Cinderfella already, having betrayed her confidence, and wasn’t allowing her a quick salsa or rhumba with the help, as she was there for a verbal beatdown. 😉

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And then the soy Almond or rice milk and don’t forget to stir it?? WTF – Sonja the way you have been chucking out we know you are drinking whole milk with lots of chocolate syrup.

  71. WindyCityWondering says:

    What I found most repugnant last night was Jill wanting to call Jennifer into her fight with Ramona. Jennifer is not a NY housewife (no it doesn’t count that she “tried out for the team”) and Jill lurked around outside the party to AMBUSH her! Why, because Jill knew she did everything she was accused of doing and just wouldn’t own it. Well let’s see – the bride knows what was said, texts were sent (hard copy proof) and these little details are exactly what Jill refuses to own. And isn’t it ironic that Jill was hanging out with mean, “drunk” girls at Jennifer’s wedding….suck it Zarin, we still hate you!

  72. Anna T.E. says:

    Someone please buy a pinot and have a drink for me!

  73. Furalis says:

    Lynn – you are priceless! Your one liner’s make me LOL.

    Jill’s Job: (Jill pretending to have a job was as transparent as her pursuit of Cindy’s friendship.) She really thinks we believe her working – come on.

    Jill’s family job: (Jill actually announced that she and her family are like real doctors. That’s like saying Kelly is a real journalist.). Again are you kidding me she really said that out loud. I wonder how the real socialites look at these women and would love to hear what they say. These women are misfits of their society.

    LuManns social affairs: (Luann, the world traveler, the social butterfly, the Countess has never been invited to a Masquerade Ball?) you are absolutely right she supposedly travels through out the world and has never been to this type of party? Maybe just having the title does not open doors in Europe and she leads us to believe she is in the inner circle of European high society. That is exactly what it is just a title.

    Bravo’s track record: (This Jennifer is a good backstabber; they really should consider hiring her.) So true and that is what this show has been reduced to.

    Jill’s thoughtful gives to her so called friends: (Jill holds out her 5 for a dollar Koala gift she brought back from Australia for all the housewives and asks Luann to give it to Ramona since she can’t talk to her anymore, just pulls at your heartstrings, doesn’t it?) I can’t believe she even brought that up while crying, like what a special gift she is not going to present personally to Ramona because Ramona spoke badly to her and caught her in a lie. That was so childish “here you give it to her I just can’t” as she yelled at me. We are to believe she really thought of everybody while she was away getting a liquid facial. That Koala bear is insulting if someone gave that to me saying they were thinking about me. That is how much you think of me to spend $1.00 on something that should be given to a child but I will throw out. I went to Japan and didn’t have a lot of money but found each persons name written in calligraphy in Japanese on a magnet and it cost $2.50 per person. That is who she is I gave you the Koala bear one up for me no matter how insulting it is. This woman has not a clue.

    Kelly giving Bravo the congratulations to Bethenny’s success I can’t believe she said that with a straight face how bizarre how Kelly’s brain works she never makes sense and Bravo is just exploiting her. The best line from Andy after that should have been “How much do you think Bravo made on the selling of Skinnygirl?”. I’m sorry but she is an idiot and she really thinks people listen and believe what she says. She is a nightmare.

    Honestly, when I started watching the HW’s program I really thought I would see people wealthier than me enjoying their lives and going to all the beautiful people’s parties but this is just brutal. They have personalities like a wet cloth and go around at their age creating drama – If you notice not too many designers want them filmed at their shows this season probably because they don’t want to be associated with this program or these women. They are showing restaurants but it doesn’t represent the restaurant just that they are there to film.

    Thank you for providing this blog ever since this morning I watched on DVR I was dying to come to read your thoughts and everyone else’s but work had to be done. What a great community you have created here. The people here are remarkable, interesting and really take the time to view posts and reply.

    You are a charm!!. And thanks to everyone else who contributes with all the links to keep us all up to date!!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      “Just a trinket to show I was thinking of you.”
      “Well you obviously weren’t thinking much of me!”


      “Just a trinket to show I was thinking of you.”
      “Do me a favor…please don’t!”

  74. Boston02128 says:


  75. OneMoreInBoston says:

    wow- still going through all the comments-just wow. What a crappy show this is turning out to be. Just turning out to be so bad.

    The only redeeming value at all is this blog! Seriously! the ONLY reason I watch now is to come here to snark!

    As far as Sonja’s Buttocks flapping in the wind? I’m so sorry but I just have absolutely no words. oh so okay- I lied:

    It must hard to get your panties in a twist when you don’t have any on.


    bwah hahah!

  76. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet~~~
    I am so excited about the Nancy Drew reading I am doing at 10am in EH at Bookhampton, and 2pm in Southampton. Be a pioneer
    Kelly that pays $1.20 not $120,000,000
    You and Bethenny, so close! HA

    • cabbie413 says:

      lol this made me LOL..omg thanks for that!

      • Adgirl says:

        Be a pioneer? Is she referrring to the character Nancy Drew or to Kelly learning to read midlife?

        • Okie Folkie says:

          No, I dont think thats it, Adgirl. But, I did just have a thunk….I thunk maybe thats the Library System’s name?

          We have several towns and townships and its called the ‘Pioneer Library System’.

          So, whadda’ya’ll think?

  77. boston02127 says:

    Princess Beatrice Royal Wedding Hat is on Ebay for a wee $10,085.54. If anyone is in the market for a hat, there ya go.

  78. Adgirl says:

    LouMann, Sasquatch and Mr Ed looming over the weeping Jill.

    “Three Men and a Baby”

  79. Adgirl says:

    From Sonja’s blog:
    “…I was happy to mix in my RHONY girlfriends. Fun! This was all done within a weeks notice. Can you imagine? Maybe you noticed the gorgeous men? Trust me Kelly met a couple of guys at my party. Let’s just leave it at that.

    There was another love match made that night as well and that one is still going! Can you guess which couple? I love love! Pity they didn’t show the electric violinist. I always look for opportunities to support the arts.”

    “Love Match” ???? Any guesses??

  80. boston02127 says:

    Going to eat….bbl.

    • T-Rex says:

      Have a nice dinner! You have me daydreaming about all the fabulous restaurants in the South End of Boston.

  81. NYCer says:

    Have I missed the Thug in the Cocktail dress statement or is it still to come? If I missed it, who was the statement about?

  82. error404 says:

    Ok, I’m lost. How is Jennifer a backstabber? Was she suppose to side with Jill and dump Ramona as a friend? Or when Jill tired to undermine her friendship with Ramona, was she suppose to keep quiet and not tell Ramona? When she told Jill the same exact story she told Ramona, was that bad? Was she suppose to deny Jill’s request to agree to disagree about who said what at the wedding, and instead of hug her friend, refuse to talk to Jill until Jill admitted to all wrong doing? (that’s along wait!) Who’s back did she stab?

    Well, considering that Jill asked that they hug it out and not fight, but then turned around and called her a lair on twitter an din her blog, no…. forget it. There’s no winning with Jill. No matter what you do, she’ll say it was the wrong thing to do.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill didn’t pick a good battle this time – there are texts and too many witnesses. She is now calling the bride a liar. Throwing other people, not on the show, under the Jilldozer and this will not end well for her. This is yet another perfect example of Jill not owning her nasty behavior.

    • T-Rex says:


      I guess Jennifer the Bride did not start talking to her about how although Ramoner is a friend that Ramoner is just not “bad to the core(channeling George Thorogood)” and then start to immediately bash Ramoner for JZ’s enjoyment, I mean educated conversation. Because apparently JZ has a “free” pass to leave her new found lifestyle of not gossiping, unless it is necessary, because if someone else starts dishing, what is one to do, it would be impolite to not also join in on the bloodbath. I think that’s going to be in her next book! Because if you are not following the JZ systematic handbook of bashing people behind their back, and then conveniently forgetting “the details” then you are not Team JZ and you are punished and now are “backstabber”. At least she has yet to call her a “systematic bully”, but it’s still early in the season!

      • kotagirl29 says:

        I did noticed the Jennifer-the-Bride was not looking happy when Shill muckled onto her for a bulls**t hug. Shill ran all over her, flawlessly executing her “whoever speaks the loudest is the ‘rightest” modus operandi. That woman is a piece of work!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          By my definition that was an ambush – but Jill called it a truce.

          • Okie Folkie says:

            WCW…I noticed you got a comment posted on one of the Bravo blogs. Well, at least someone with your same SN did. I dont recall which of the blogs it was.
            Good for you!

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              I got a couple through this time – LuAnn, Kelly, Ramona and Alex! Someone must be monitoring blogs regarding Bravo’s one sided posts. lol

      • fort lauderdale gay says:

        That’s coming next week! I read an episode guide description. Jill holds “an anti-bullying event”. I’m wondering if it is a how to instructional class. Jill’s upside down world, you know!

        • T-Rex says:

          Have I told you lately that I love to FLG!

          • T-Rex says:

            WHOOPS! It should read Love to love you lately! You and Error are the bombs! Of course Lynn is the Queen bomb, and Quincy is theEmpress of bombs!

  83. Kellita says:

    Did anybody else find Cindy overly neurotic while her ex was playing with the twins? I was feeling tense as she was correcting everything he did. I felt sorry for the guy, who is their dad! Brand new moms are often like that with newborns, but these twins are toddlers! I wondered if it’s because they’re always taken care of by nannies, and Cindy isn’t super comfortable without the nannies around. They seem to be there 24/7, Camille-style.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Doorstop always looks uncomfortable around her kids. I remember her asking one of the nannies if it was normal for one of them to be putting the entire pacifier in her mouth. I don’t think she spends much time with those kids, or ever has with any kids. Kids put EVERYTHING in their mouth, that is childcare 101. There is something totally off-putting about Doorstop. It goes beyond the unnatural relationship with her brother and awkward behavior around her kids, I just haven’t been able to pin it down yet. But something just isn’t “right”

  84. Cathy P says:

    Lynn, I found this blog a few weeks ago and I think you’re amazing! Thanks for the great read! As for RHONY, does anyone else notice that there are no comments on Jill’s or Cindy’s blog at Bravo? Do they both have a deal with Bravo not to show the comments made to their blogs? I tried to post, but it went into cyberspace!

    • kotagirl29 says:

      I haven’t been able to get a comment on Shill, LuMann, or Doorstop’s blogs, but I got one on Ramona’s today. My first comment posted on a Bravo blog. I really didn’t think it would go through, but wonders never cease.

      Submitted by NotaFanofJillous on May 13, 2011..

      Ramona you rock. The brunettes are nasty to watch and I know that many on the IHJZ blog can’t stand Jillous, Kookoo, Doorstop, and LuMann. The show has taken an ugly turn and you would do well to distance yourself from the quartet of dark haired witches. Now they are insinuating that you are an alcoholic. Stay strong and true to yourself, because those witches are digging their own graves.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Well done, the only comment I think I ever got through was about Johnny from Top Chef- Just Desserts about how he should spoon feed a contest winner dessert.

    • T-Rex says:

      Welcome to the IHJZ clubhouse! This is why many of us are here, as postings seem to be scrutinzed when one is posting on the Bravo website.

    • Christine says:

      Jill has also been unusually quiet on FB and Twitter today.

  85. T-Rex says:

    OT or NOTNT the Psychic stuff. Okay have to come clean that I have several family members in the industry, they are true and true. Good Psychic ettiquette, from what they call a “whitelight” or God
    First: You read the person in front of you, you read what is happening to them directly in their life. Yes outside others that affect you “DIRECTLY” will be identified. But it is how they DIRECTLY affect you!
    Second: You do not read other people that are not “directly” affecting your life. I.E. Patty Stanker claims that her psychic saw Bethenny’s lawsuit. Bethenny is not a part of your business or life, so if some random psychic told you anything about her it’s bogus. Notice she didn’t tweet that bethenny was going to see a huge “windfall” in her finances via her deal, only said something about the lawsuit, totally means they are bogus! Any fool can predict that once a brand goes public, scumbag lawyers follow.
    Third: No reputable psychic will EVER and I repeat EVER go on TV while in the midst of a “personal” reading and bring in anything that doesn’t directly affect the person in front of them.

    Most reputable psychics will make public readings on the economy, the State of the World or nation, but only charlatans go after public people directly in print, without their permission, because that does affect the person, but without direct references.

    I know this is TMI, I have never once asked any of them to read a Housewife, or anything that did not directly affect me, not peeps on a blog, message board, some random dude on the street. They tell me when you do that, it’s completely an inaccurate reading and just guessing.

    • error404 says:

      TMI or not, it was fascinating! Thank you. It makes total sense to me.

      • T-Rex says:

        What they said to me it is “unethical” to read someone randomly, it’s invading their privacy. If you come to them they read YOU, they read what is affecting you that you can change or see what is coming. Any “bube” on the street can speculate on others but it is just speculation, and a crap shoot! Which is why those folks get it right some times, but not most times. This is why you see bogus stuff on some magazines they actually employ these buffoons, pay for their services to get a “heads up” on famous people.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Very intesting, TR.

          OT but also positive is how objective Alex tends to be–this is part of her blog:
          I know Jill was feeling sick that night, which might be why she didn’t have a good time and complained about everything. Everyone else at the party enjoyed it; how can you not have fun in the vault at Cipriani? Anytime you go to a party there, you know it’s going to be a good night. Kelly was happier than I’d ever seen her — Sonja went out of her way to bring cute, single straight boys for her to flirt with, the food was great, and there was a hot (both in talent and looks) violinist performing. What’s not to like? Before the chums became as obsessed with Halloween as they are, Simon and I used to go to a Halloween Ball in Central Park with thousands of people nearly every year. Guess what? Everyone always wound up just hanging out with their own tables. I actually preferred Sonja’s masquerade in the vault because it was beautiful, intimate, sexy, and everyone got to have real conversations, not hit-and-run air kisses. What a great night.

  86. Okie Folkie says:

    **OT** But I though ya’ll might wanna know Shanna/Talor IS NOT getten a divorce. I really dont care about her one way or the other…..


    • lillybee says:

      I wish I could believe anything about her.

    • Nancy says:

      “Taylor” is just pulling a LuMan by making herself seem relevant.
      It’s not working.

      • Okie Folkie says:

        ITA!!! They are, as Lynn Curtian might say, (well, IF she still had a ‘gig’ w/Bravo) just POSERS!

        Sooo much has come out about Shanna/Taylor/Ford /Armstrong ….over their break (have I left out any of her other A.K.A.s? wasnt there a ‘Hughes’ among somma her ‘names’?

  87. Bloshka says:

    Dear Error and Windy.

    I think the Ramona-Jill fight is not so much about what was said, but about the protocol of filming and then the ladies’ surprise when their negative comments made their way back to them. To recap””

    1. Jill goes to a wedding knowing that she is going to be filmed. She knows that Ramona and Mario will be filming and that, as part of an audition of sorts, the bride has allowed the wedding to be filmed. So Jill is mentally prepared to do whatever it is that she prepared for the wedding sequence with Ramona, Mario, the bride and other sundry folk.

    2. No one has told Jill that Alex and Simon will be there: not Ramona, not the bride, and not the production company. Bam! There go Jill’s story arc plans. To make matters worse, it is Ramona has brought Alex and Simon and ruined Jill’s plans.

    3a. Jill asks the bride about the change in filming plans. This is not a wedding conversation; it is a filming plan conversation. To be fair, I think that the housewives ought to be told beforehand who their cast mates will be for a given scene. Also to be fair, the bride was getting married that day, so saying anything to her that was not related to the wedding was necessarily in bad taste. Except that the bride herself had the film crew there. Thus, I don’t know how I feel about this.

    3b. Jill is angry with Ramona for springing additional cast mates on her for the scene. In this respect, Jill is right.

    3c. Jill really doesn’t like Alex and injudiciously says some things about her. To be generous with Jill, the whole Silex thing was a surprise, so she was thrown off balance. To be fair, what Jill said is, sadly, something that should not be uttered out loud.

    4. The bride “bumps into” Ramona and brings it as part of her housewife audition. She brings her housewife game and gossips and starts a controversy.

    5. Ramona gets upset about whatever Jill and the bride said in regards to her, that is, in regard to Ramona.

    6. The Jill-Ramona smack down ensues.

    To summarize: Ramona and the bride changed filming plans on Jill. Jill was upset. Then there were comments made, some on camera and some off. Then we have a brand-spanking-new tiff that seems ridiculous and is difficult to comprehend; difficult to comprehend unless we realize they are talking about what is fair play in filming.

    I am now convinced that all three women are at fault.

    • Nancy says:

      Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Bravo sets the table and the ladies bring the desserts – just or not!
      Jill does not control who is at any given event (except say one she organizes). She is her own worst enemy and her hatred for Alex got the better of her at the wedding. IMO, Bravo gave her a big slapdown with her remark to the producer about Alex – because she was interfering again.

      • quincyil says:

        I know, Nancy.

        It’s a good explanation, Bloska. I am sure that Jill Zarin’s staff of experienced PR men could do no better.

        It seemed to me that the conversation started by Ramona was simply a greeting to a bride who had just returned from a honeymoon. The bride, Jennifer, felt that Jill Zarin had created unneccesary drama and adversely affected the wedding. We also know that Jill had done things in the back ground such as complaining that her former Hamptons home was being used for the reception. Jill had also called the bride to ask who was coming numerous times.

        What Jill did calling Alex a bad name is abhorrent on any level. How can Jill tell us in interviews that she has changed and then say that to a producer? What Jill says behind the camera is an indication of the person she really is.

        Jill always wants to play the victim. She doesn’t care about the feelings of her cast mates. I don’t know how Alex can forgive Jill for saying that Alex was spread eagle or that Simon was falling down drunk. How can Bethenny forgive Jill for telling everyone not to film with Bethenny when Bethenny was begging Jill for her friendship and being rejected in the cruelest ways possible.

        Jill has made fun of Ramona since day one of the series. Jill makes comments that are hurtful to friend and foe. Jill has been horrible to us on this board. She calls us names and insults us almost every day in her twitter.

        I think others here will agree with me and see that there is an agenda with your post. You told us you were from NYC and you answered Lynn’s questions on the Cat Ommanney exclusive interview.

        You also brought information that Jill Zarin feed to a site that she has associations with. That evidence was incorrect. Simon van Kempen came to this board to give you the correct information and many people on this board were bothered by your post on Mother’s Day.

        I am commenting on your opinions and not on you directly.

        I disagree with you.


        • Bloshka says:

          Wow! That was harsh. Way harsh.

          1. You may not agree with what I say, but why would my stating something you don’t like necessarily have to be because I have an agenda?

          2. Yeah, I noticed you took down my thing about the Van Kempens. You like them, I get it. Why take down an opinion though?

          3. Yes, I live in NYC. I’m not sure what you mean about the site I brought. I hope my answers about NYC were helpful though.

          Ladies, I originally found your site because I googled “I hate Jill Zarin.” I agree with you that Jill likes to be the victim. I agree that she has been ungracious a lot of the time. What I don’t think is that her machinations are the cause of every misery; I don’t think she’s all that powerful, although she has made people unhappy. Jill seems sort of mean-spirited. but also pretty tragic, since she wants so badly to be popular and liked. And her lapses in character do give you ladies a lot of fodder.

          I’m flattered that you think my theory is good enough for PR. Actually, I got it after just being confused about the “pecking order” speech and the upset about Cindy’s lack of pinot grigio, plus the latest smackdown, plus I read an article in the NYT about how the shows are put together.

          Here’s the piece. It gives blogs like yours a lot of credit in the way the shows are edited.


          • quincyil says:

            I read that link a long time ago. Feel free to post your opinions. People here will agree and agree to disagree.

            Feel free to criticize my opinions and the action I took last Sunday also. I took responsibility for taking it off.


      • Bloshka says:

        The producers DID give Jill a smack-down: they put her ugly, ugly comment about Alex into the edited program. Ain’t karma a bitch?

        • quincyil says:

          I did take that down after a lot of consideration. There are posts on this blog that are on the board that criticize me and the blog owner and we don’t take them off.

          There are opinions about all of the reality stars that are positive and negative on this board. As mothers and grandmothers, we often have concerns when it comes to the children on the show.

    • T-Rex says:

      Uhm No JZ
      1. Event is going to be filmed yes in full!
      2, JZ is invited to a wedding, as I have once had one of these last thing I care about is trying to announce to those invited the guest list. This is of no concern to anyone, other than myself and my husband to be!
      3. HW know when cameras are present, it ain’t a State secret!
      3b. SEE 3, did you not see the freakin 30 people with cameras and producers because anyone filmed has to sign an agreement to appear on TV
      4. If some bitch starts shit at my wedding, oh hell yeah I am going to make that shit known. Bitch it’s my wedding, my day!!!

      5. I don’t give a crap what you Biotches do behind the scenes on TV. HELLO this is my WEDDING DAY~ I haven’t had time to eat, everyone wants pictures, everyone wants a dance, and you freakin RHNY want to grab my spotlight how dare you!

      6. The smack down happens! As it should JZ you should be called out for the piece of Sh*t that tried to hijack my wedding for your own!

      I got married 20 years ago, but if you pulled the crap at my wedding you pulled here, I would have gone all “chicago” on your ass!

      Wedding days are the Bride’s day, not about the Random guests! But hey JZ thanks for playing!

      • quincyil says:

        Jill also threw her “friends” under the bus in her discussion with Ramona too. I saw a video that actually had the names of those people. That is going to go viral.

        Jill did that and embarassed the people she was with at that wedding.

    • error404 says:

      “I am now convinced that all three women are at fault.”

      Sorry, I’m not.

      It’s a show with a regular cast of 7 stars. They all signed a contract to appear on the show with the 6 other stars. Anyone, Jill, Ramona, anyone of the 7 who acts surprised and upset when one of the 7 stars of the show appears in a party scene is an idiot.

      Seriously, a true moron. Could you imagine if Betty White had suddenly just started screaming “What the hell is that f-ing bitch Bea Arthur doing in this scene?!?!” while filming the Golden Girls?!

      Now, while I will be the first to admit that Jill Zarin is no Rhodes Scholar, I give her some credit. She threw a scene at the wedding so she could have a storyline and keep her apple. In Jill’s case, her chosen storyline is that she’s a misunderstood mench, and if it wasn’t for those horrible bitches Alex and Ramoner who are always out to get her, she’d be shown to the american public as the wonderful fun loving society MILF she is.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      =2. No one has told Jill that Alex and Simon will be there: ==

      Jill said in the upstream that a friend did let it slip that Alex and Simon were coming to the wedding. Jill flipflops on the “facts” all the time.

      • Bloshka says:

        Well, if Jill knew, it blows my theory to hell.

        I wonder whether Jill is even aware of how she often and ineffectively she lies. She twists things around a great deal and perhaps she believes her own spin. I wonder. She does nit strike me as stupid or oblivious, but who knows?

        • T-Rex says:

          That’s the point JZ doesn’t care! She just sends the stuff out there and hope that people don’t remember! Hey dufusJZ you are on a REALITY SHOW! While in life you can pull this kind of crap, in REALITY SHOW world there is tape. And to add there is tape we don’t even see!

    • Smompy says:

      Thank you! I hadn’t read gawker for quite a while and I guess I always figured Richard Lawson was irreplaceable, but Brian Moylan does a damn good job with the housewives too! YAY Gawker!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Loved the zombies vs witches – it will make watching RHNY more fun for me now! All we need is a couple of vampires and the rest of the season will be a breeze to get through. !

    • error404 says:

      thanks! That was awesome!

    • Christine says:

      Great column. I watched the clip of JZ’s return to the Ramona party. I couldn’t help but notice the look on Alex’s face – note to self, Simon and I must rewrite wills to include Ramona.

  88. Adgirl says:

    Why is it that Cindy only seemed interested in her children was when she wanted to police their dad’s interactions with them? And yes, he seems to not undertand how fragile children’s bodies are. Why doesn’t she call Rosie Pope for some lessons?

  89. Bloshka says:

    I actually do see your rationale about taking down my post. It’s a noble sentiment and I do see why you would not want your blog to contribute to the unhappiness of children.

    In retrospect, even though my comment was repeating something Silex had actually put in their book, I regret adding my opinion. It’s not as though what I had to say could possibly contribute to the kids’ well-being.

    Finally, it’s your blog and your decision. I might have opinions different from yours but the blog is your responsibility — and probably more work than I can fathom.

    • quincyil says:

      Thank you. I am glad we had this conversation.

      I suffered over taking that post down. It was not something I enjoyed doing.

      Most of the people have moved over to the nex page now. That active conversations move forward quickly, but you should go into old board as people post there also.

      This is not my blog, it belongs to lynnnchicago. She asked me to help and I want the people here to have the opportunity to share with each other so I said, “Yes.” I make mistakes, but the commenters are very forgiving.


  90. Ginger says:

    And again with the I hate Jill Zarin talk. Does anyone give her a chance and go into RHONY with an open mind? It sounds like she really doesn’t have a chance no matter what she does!!

    • nathania says:

      true, it’s not anything Jill says or does specifically.

      it’s just that we are, generally speaking, very mean people. The world is that way to certain people for some reason. It’s just mean, and certain people get singled out for suffering. Jill suffers so much she’s even making Jesus nervous he’s going to lose his cross to her. It’s not her fault, nothing is. Life is just that way, to some poor souls. For no reason. None at all. So sad.

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