IHJZ “The Real Housewives of New York” Modern Greek Tragedy

“The Real Housewives of New York City” Modern Greek Tragedy by Quincy IL

A  Greek Tragedy is a form of art based on human suffering that offers its audience pleasure. Just as the Greeks were entertained by these plays, the Elizabethans followed the stories of Shakespeare were the audience became a part of the entertainment.  I believe that Andy Cohen has created a Modern Greek Tragedy is the form of “The Real Housewives of New York City” and that we are the audience and participants in the play.

Jill Zarin was very upset in the episode, “A Masque for Two Faces.”  She cried.  In her blog on May 13, Jill shared her version of what happened with us.  Jill felt that she was “set up” at the wedding by Ramona and her now former friend, Jennifer, whose wedding was a part of this season’s events.  Jennifer attended the third Ramona event promoting Ramona Pinot Grigio.  Ramona asked the recently returned honeymooner about her wedding.  Jennifer was obviously upset that Jill Zarin and Jill’s friends felt the need to question why Alex and Simon had been invited to her wedding.  Jennifer threw in that Jill Zarin wanted to know how Ramona and she became friends.  It seems Jill felt that she introduced them to each other and therefore had the right to control Ramona and Jennifer’s relationship.

In Jill’s blog she explains that Jennifer knew how she felt about Alex and that Jill felt she should have been told that Alex was coming. 

From Jill Zarin’s bravotv.com blog:

“I want to get right to it. Ramona and Jennifer both make me sick. I thought the bride and I were friends. I never thought in a million years the two of them would set me up. Ramona did it last year with Bethenny at her house and now with Alex at the wedding. Different circumstances but the same goal: To catch me off guard, press my buttons, and get a reaction. Then when she gets a reaction, she blames and criticizes me for reacting. She openly admitted to enjoying doing this to me the morning of the wedding in Episode 1.

Why didn’t Jennifer tell me in advance that she invited Alex? She knew how I felt about her at the time, and it should have been my decision if I wanted to go.”

Jill has been in a reality show with Alex for three years and she had already filmed with Alex at the Ramona’s rooftop Pinot Grigio event.  We have long known that Jill Zarin considers Alex and Simon van Kempen beneath her level in society. 

From Simon’s blog on the first episode:

“At the reception we get to hear Jill describe how involved or not she is with the March for Marriage Equality before continuing by stating “that fucking bitch Alex McCord has the nerve to come to me at the church………she’s a bitch, look at her she’s socializing at a party that’s so above her” Ah yes, she’s changed! So I’d really love to know from Jill why this wedding was so above us. And perhaps she can advise me on what one of her secrets is when invited to a wedding. Dear Bride & Groom, Thank you for your invitation to your wedding but before we can accept, could you please advise us of your net worth and/or social standing so we can deduce whether it is appropriate for us to attend. As we wouldn’t dream of attending if we feel that you’re above us. Best, Invited Guests.

After listening to Jennifer’s description of Jill’s questions and comments, Ramona wanted to talk to Jill about this.  She was distressed and she wanted an apology.  Jill Zarin denied that Jennifer was telling the truth and actually found Jennifer to tell her that this was not the time or place to bring up Jill’s statements. The Jill returns to Ramona to explain that all is well, she told Jennifer that she should not bring this up on camera.  Jill was smiling at that point.

In the real timeline, Jill did not know that her recorded statements to the producer would be a part of the first episode.  The discussion with Jennifer about Alex, Simon and Ramona was also off camera.  In Jill’s mind she would not be held accountable for any of this and now her feet were being held to the fire by Ramona for the comments about Alex, Simon and Ramona.

Ramona tweeted recently that Jill tried to stop this story line.

ramonasinger Ramona Singer

2nite Jill gets caught lying to me on RHONYC. Tries to get the whole thing bleeped out! Happens @serafinagroup 4 my #RamonaPinotGrigio party

Jill was very concerned about being “set up” by Ramona who tried to give Jill and Bethenny a venue to repair their broken friendship. Jill however, has invited Simon to a tennis match in order to cause Ramona to freak out and thought that it would be great fun when she made the plans with the help of Bethenny. Of course, Jill only remembers what she wants to remember.

From Ramona Singer’s blog on bravotv.com: 

Imagine my shock when Jennifer shared with me the comments Jill made to her — questioning why Jennifer is such good friends with me and beating her up about inviting Alex and Simon. I was horrified and hurt, to say the least. When I saw Jill, I admit I could not wait to speak to her. I took Jill quietly to the side. Now what was that wink to LuAnn about, right before she walked over to me? It seems as if Jill and LuAnn are using me as their punching bag since they no longer have Bethenny. It also looks as if they have recruited Cindy and Kelly to join in.

I just wanted Jill to own up to what she did. “Yes, Ramona, I was wrong. I was in a bad mood.” Anything! Instead of discussing it so we could move on she said, “Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true.” She outright lied! She thinks she can say and make up anything, and then it becomes true. But, she lied, and she got caught. Jill has become her own worst enemy and will stoop so low to make up stories and lies about people, especially me. You will see more lies from her in the upcoming episodes. I am so sick of her “Jillasy” and trying to blame everyone else. I’m also sick of her BS crocodile tears. Maybe she was always this way and my eyes are just now opening up. But, I really don’t like what I am seeing, and it makes me very sad and angry. 

Apparently, Alex was told the exact story by Jennifer on the day of her wedding.  Jill had caused a problem for a bride and upset her on her special day. 

From Alex’s blog on bravotv.com: 

I was so happy to see Jennifer; we had seen each other off and on at parties, but became friends last year after the yacht party with Ramona, and Labor Day weekend in 2009. She’s a great girl and a straight shooter. Jennifer’s description of being bombarded by Jill about Ramona, Simon and me was exactly the same at Serafina as it was when she told it the day of the wedding. Even though Jill admitted to me on the day of the wedding that she was bothering the bride and Ramona trying to find out if I’d be there, she apparently forgot by the time we got to Serafina a month later, and denied it.

Watching Ramona talk to Jill was like watching myself deliver the message to Jill last year. Anytime Jill feels put on the spot, she leans in to you with a weird faux-friendly smile, and talks over you. . . and over you. . . and over you. She did it to Ramona, and then she did it to Jennifer outside. Kudos to Jennifer for not backing down, although Jill wouldn’t let her speak. She does this to every person who says something she doesn’t want to hear. And outside in the car, Jill cried to Bobby on the phone that Ramona did it to her again. And LuAnn held her hand, while shooting daggers at Ramona. For the record, Ramona held a glass all night, but I don’t think she ever finished it. That fight wasn’t alcohol. That was raw emotion. Funny that Jill and LuAnn couldn’t see the difference.

Jill Zarin was weeping in a black limousine while talking to Bobby Zarin on the phone.  Of course, he thought Jill was innocent and was being mistreated by Ramon Singer.  Bobby Zarin does not watch the television show it seems. 

So Jill was caught in another lie.  She confronted a bride about her list of guests on her wedding day.  She caused a lot of people to become upset because Jill Zarin is unable to hold a thought in her head.  She has to share anything that comes into her consciousness.  Has Jill Zarin changed for the better?  It seems the evidence indicates that she has not. 

The following are Jill’s tweets during the showing of “A Masque for Two Faces” collected and organized for us by a commenter, icantstandthetoxicity: 

Jillzarin: Yep…Ramona said at her house”why tell Jill…that would ruin the fun” I was pissed! I thought we were friends, u press my button…

Jillzarin: I never asked her about her friendship with Ramona. Am I that stupid when they all set me up and surprised me that Alex was coming?

Jillzarin: Who would allow another TV show to film at your wedding??? Crazy? She wants to be a housewife and instigated this. They planned attack

Jillzarin : I even offer to have lunch and she said she will think about it?

Jillzarin: U guessed that right! With friends like that…RT @rhonjteresafan @Jillzarin then im guessing you and jennifer arent friends anymore?

Jillzarin: “I’ve never bad mouthed her” ?? Is she kidding? That’s all she does! I showed up. That said it all.

Jillzarin: Worst actress of the year….it looks like they rehearsed this for days.

Jillzarin : thank you @CountessLuAnn . You are always there when I need you! 

Countess Luann also made comments, but she was not at the wedding and she has no idea what happened so we are ignoring her contribution to the discussion. 

We have information from the upstream of Jill Zarin.  Jill let the truth slip out again: 

  • lovemamaearth says:

May 14, 2011 at 12:31 am

=2. No one has told Jill that Alex and Simon will be there: ==

Jill said in the upstream that a friend did let it slip that Alex and Simon were coming to the wedding. Jill flipflops on the “facts” all the time.

Lovemamaearth is correct. Jill flipflops, forgets her own words, lashes out with swords, and then goes to an interview to assure us that she wants to be “nice.”

We were told that Jill was contacting the bride, but it makes sense that Jill would also be contacting friends of the bride for information. She contacted Ramona and Ramona did not answer her in the negative so Jill knew something was up.  When she first saw Alex at the wedding, Jill was so distraught that Bobby had to hold her in his arms.  Jill’s comments to the producer were filled with anger at Alex being invited to the event.  It’s not surprising that Jill’s anger would spill over onto the bride, Jennifer.  It’s also not surprising that the bride was angry and willing to share Jill’s words with Ramona on film.   Jill treated Jennifer like Bethenny.  Jennifer is no longer Jill’s friend and Jill made the announcement in public on twitter to her 120,000 plus followers.

From Jill Zarin’s blog last week when she smoked the peace pipe by burning the lists of injuries with Alex in Alex’s backyard:

“We need a clean slate. Apologies need to be accepted. Why is it everyone else says mean things, apologizes and gets a pass or is forgiven; but with me, my feet are held to the fire? “

I think I know the answer to Jill’s question. We, the commenters at IHJZ watch and listen to your comments that you are going to be nice and that you have changed, but we see you lying in the show and making mean comments about Ramona and Alex.  We have become a part of the reality show.  We are the Greek Chorus. Jill speaks and acts; we recount her saga here on the pages of this blog.  We watch the television and use cyberspace to join the Greek Chorus at IHJZ.  It is a Modern Greek Tragedy.


The following is Jill’s secret email to her fans which she would not like to share with the IHJZ blog so I am giving am posting it:

Episode 6…here we go!
Cindy invited me over to see her apartment for us get to know each other. After all, we are going to spending a lot of time together! I knew she was friends with Ramona so I was a little nervous but I knew when I first met her she was my kind of girl. We both come from Long Island, both Jewish, and we are the same age.
I had just come back from Australia and was really shocked at the stories everyone told me when I came home. No wonder soap operas are being replaced by reality shows. You couldn’t make this stuff up.When Cindy said “Ramona’s core is not good” it validated a lot of the feelings I have had over the years. We have a lot of friends in common. Cindy said “we have our ups and lows” (she meant downs) but we accept Ramona for who she is. What the heck does that mean? Why would anyone accept someone who makes so many condescending remarks and offers little respect to anyone? Cindy said “her core is not good.” Is she right? I always try to find the good in people. I let a lot of things go with regards to Ramona and years have passed. Maybe it’s time to take a serious look at our friendship. Ramona invited us to a wine tasting party this week. Even though Bobby had to come home from work a little early to make it, we showed up. Am a just a glutton for punishment?
Side comment..how cute are Cindy’s little girls? I am available for babysitting!
Chris March, from Project Runway, totally outdid himself. He is so talented. Chris call me!
I have been to the costume store shown in the episode many times for many costumes but NOT the one I wore on Halloween two years ago on the show. I paid under $100 for the entire costume from FRANCO. (available at Halloween stores) If I rented something at this costume rental place it would have been around $350. I was really sick that day but didn’t want to disappoint Sonja. I was on cold medicine so I was acting very silly! We tried on so many costumes, I was exhausted. Luann looks so beautiful in everything but the Scarlett O’Hara costume was perfect.Meeting Cindy’s ex boyfriend/baby daddy for the first time was interesting. I don’t know what I expected but I wouldn’t have picked him out of the “lineup.” I see Cindy with a wall street banker (yin and yang theory). One thing I do know? These babies were the most wanted children in the world. Even though her situation is not traditional, if it works for Cindy, I am happy.
When Sonja is getting ready for the party, we hear her talking about her divorce putting stress on her financially. This is a premonition of what will come. When Sonja said “I don’t have a man around the house”, I wanted to add she has many and they are all so cute! I loved the car she was in! How fun would it be to be driven around in that all day!
Cipriani is a fabulous event space in NYC that is often used for charity events. They also have an exclusive wine cellar that I had heard about and was very excited. Sonja talks about her fabulous parties and when she said it was a masquerade ball I imagined a long table with waiters behind each chair lifting a silver plate cover at the same time. I actually went to one of those at MOMA last year and had created a fantasy in my head. Bobby and I brought three friends. Two were potential dates for Kelly. Ryan is the gorgeous one in the mask when I walk in. (I know, hard to tell with mask on!) A little inside info? Ryan is staring on Bravo’s NYC version of Million Dollar Listing! 
Ramona was a little “tweaked” when she arrived. Everyone really went all out with their costumes. I have to admit I was a little disappointed. I expected this elaborate dinner and all we were offered were hors d’oeuvre and drinks. Where was dinner? I told Bobby not to eat lunch because we were going to a big fancy party. Maybe it should have been called a masquerade cocktail party instead of a ball.
When Sonja bent down and I saw her tushie…I died! I immediately put my hand over it. My first reaction was she honestly left it at home. I asked Kelly and Cindy and they both thought she did it on purpose. I said no way! She would never want to show it on TV. never! Then when I saw this episode, did she say she left it home on purpose?
Alex and I were in a good place that night. Though we aren’t meant to be the best of friends, I am still hopeful we can all get along.
Going with Cindy to the dentist was one of my favorite scenes ever! In our book Secrets Of A Jewish Mother we have an entire chapter dedicated to Beauty and Health. We give advice on how to find everything like the best Doctor to the dreaded word “exercise”!Ramona was a little “tweaked” when she arrived. Everyone really went all out with their costumes. I have to admit I was a little disappointed. I expected this elaborate dinner and all we were offered were hors d’oeuvre and drinks. Where was dinner? I told Bobby not to eat lunch because we were going to a big fancy party. Maybe it should have been called a masquerade cocktail party instead of a ball.
When Sonja bent down and I saw her tushie…I died! I immediately put my hand over it. My first reaction was she honestly left it at home. I asked Kelly and Cindy and they both thought she did it on purpose. I said no way! She would never want to show it on TV. never! Then when I saw this episode, did she say she left it home on purpose?
Alex and I were in a good place that night. Though we aren’t meant to be the best of friends, I am still hopeful we can all get along.
Going with Cindy to the dentist was one of my favorite scenes ever! In our book Secrets Of A Jewish Mother we have an entire chapter dedicated to Beauty and Health. We give advice on how to find everything like the best Doctor to the dreaded word “exercise”!Was the scene with Jennifer and Ramona staged? Ramona looked so shocked by the words the bride was saying as if they hadn’t discussed it a thousand times. They both make me sick. I thought the bride and I were friends. After all, she asked me to recommend her to be a Housewife and get an audition which I did. I never thought in a million years the two of them would set me up. Ramona did it last year with Bethenny at her house and now with Alex at the wedding. Different circumstances but the same goal. To catch me off guard, press my buttons and get a reaction. Then when she gets a reaction, she blames and criticizes me for reacting. She openly admitted to enjoying doing this to me the morning of the wedding in episode one. Why didn’t Jennifer tell me in advance that she invited Alex? She knew how I felt about her at the time and it should have been my decision if I wanted to go. Jennifer has told mutual friends that she felt used by Ramona. People left early and couldn’t believe they weren’t told there would be a film crew there. It didn’t say anything on the invitation. People had to hide away from the eight cameras all over the yard. The music had to be turned off or worse, play Bravo house music due to clearance issues. It was embarrassing. I kept apologizing to people as if I brought the cameras. I didn’t. Ramona did. Remember at Ramona’s house she said “why tell Jill? That would ruin the fun?” So why is she so surprised if I was mad at Jennifer?
I had just came back from Australia and the party was my first time seeing Ramona since the wedding. My friend Vince drove me and I came to support Ramona as I always have in the past. I was having a nice conversation with some of the guests when Ramona had to pull me away and attack me. The bride was across the room. Again, Ramona is mad at me over something someone else said I said. I said, “bring her over”! I had NOTHING to hide. Whatever I said I meant. Details not important. He said, she said, all I know is Ramona invited me to her party to make a scene so her party wouldn’t get cut from editing. That’s how it works. If you have a lot of housewives and fight at your party, it is a virtual guarantee to make final editing. I showed up to Ramona’s party to help her and once again, she uses me. But this time, I was calm. She was wired and acting insane. Everyone had been talking about her attacking Howie at Cindy’s Birthday party and a lot of other things regarding Ramona.Ramona refused to bring Jennifer over to talk to me to my face but she didn’t expect me to see her on the way out. I spoke to Jennifer and it is what it is. We both remember it differently and will never agree as to what happened. But Ramona? She says I should talk to her face, I say “fine lets have lunch” and she says ” I’ll think about it”? She didn’t expect me to be so calm. She thought if she pushed my buttons again I would react. I have changed. I listened to her “complaints” and offered to meet her alone for lunch to talk about it. I asked her a few times for lunch and and you will see what happens.
By the time she “balled me out” and embarrassed herself in front of all her guests, I was really hurt. I realized once again that no matter how hard I try to “show up” and be supportive for certain people, it will never be enough. If I was really bad mouthing her behind her back for years do you think it would have taken her this long to confront me? Are you kidding. Ramona has no self control and even if she wanted to hold it in, she couldn’t. Ramona is a drama queen. He said, she said. Enough said.
I think I will take my toys and go home.
Love,Jill XO


Jill shared more about the disaster of a wedding that her former close friend and social equal, Jennifer, had in the Hamptons in the fall of 2010.  Jill states that details are not important in the telling of a story.  That is a true “Jillism.” 

Jill also states that she did not bring the cameras, Ramona did.  I’m sure Ramona asked Jennifer and contracts were signed to allow the filming.  I read an article about Alex’s birthday part on Governor’s Island and all of her friends signed releases before the filming began. 

Jill signed her Bravo contract to be a part of the series.  Did she expect to go to a wedding and not be filmed as a part of the reality show that she agreed to be in? 

Again, Jill was a willing participant in all of this despite her protestations.  In the upstream that Jill created herself, she admits that she knew Alex was coming.  When she did that, she destroyed her own argument that she was “set up.”  All of the spin of the Planet Earth can’t fix this.

Reality Crack House (real city housewife) has the secret Jill Zarin blog that we are not supposed to read and she makes comments while sharing it with her readers. 


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449 Responses to IHJZ “The Real Housewives of New York” Modern Greek Tragedy

  1. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Can we all just agree that Jill is Bat Sh!t Crazy
    no need to try and figure out why

    • error404 says:


      but without proper research, how can society prevent this tragedy from repeating itself? 😛

      • quincyil says:

        You two are stuck with Q in a time loop created by Bravo where we try to move forward and are dragged into another timeline when the shows are sent to our television screens.

        I try to think about what the women are thinking at the time they are being filmed. What confuses me is there reactions in the blogs and on twitter in real time. They lived through these events and supposedly had resolutions of conflict which allowed them to do promotions in California and kiss each other in the hallways while waiting to go on talk shows.

        Now, they are at war again in twitter over something that happened last Sept. and Oct.

        This is Star Trek and Stargate Universe in Manhattan, Brooklyn, the Hamptons, and Islands that shall remain nameless.

        • cusi77 says:

          (((Quincyil))) Thank you for this Blog! As always very informative!

        • Zoey says:

          I was thinking the same thing. Was it this season Ramona an Jill were on WWHL, getting along? Now they are fighting. I’m confused….

          • kotagirl29 says:

            I think the wounds are reopend when they watch the episodes and finally see the talking head interviews. They can see the knife about to be plunged into their backs, but there is nothing they can do to stop it.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        lol I was thinking the other day if we put as much time and analysis into investments, we’d all be rich.

        Thanks for a great review & a mention. 🙂

  2. HD says:

    I cannot believe these women are having these kind of fights this year. It all seems so trivial.

    Fight 1: “you didn’t tell me you invited Alex to the wedding”

    Fight 2 : “You didn’t have my Pinot Grigio and I requested it.”

    Fight 3: “How dare you question me leaving my kids with a mother’s helper while I go bang my boyfriend and shop in the city.”

    Fight 4: “You made the Marriage walk about you and Simon didn’t get to give his speech.”

    Fight 5: “Jill asked the bride why she was friends with me.”

    REALLY?! When you think about it all of this is trivial and so stupid. Are they really fighting over these things? Grown women fighting over wine and gossip that doesn’t amout to a hill of beans! I really do love the RH franchise but lately all of this just seems so ridiculous and like these arguments are contrived.

    • boston02127 says:

      @HD—And that pesky Mississippi River keep rising.

      Too bad they couldn’t get their TV voices out there to raise awareness to help out down there.

      • quincyil says:

        The rising flood waters were here about 10 days ago. I trust the Army Corps when it comes to the decisions to open flood gates even when it affects the farms here. Sometimes, they flood farm land to save small towns and cities down stream.

        My dad always said, “Never build in a swamp.” The people who live in river towns know this is going to happen. It’s not like a tornado that drops out of the sky on your head.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I’m guessing that the silt from the river overflows can improve the farmland? Best wishes to all in that area. It’s not much in the news now but Japan could use some prayers too.

    • Bloshka says:


    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      in a real world would any of these people really be friends
      well Jill & Romona have known each other for over 15 years BUT does that ean they were ever actually friends
      I simply dont think Jill has it in her to maintain anything close to a friendship

      for all teh speculation on whos gay on this show how is it possiable no one has ever speculated on Bawby who comes off as a big and i mean BIG closet queen

      and quite possibly a beard for Shrill

      ponder that for a bit

  3. floridagirl88 says:

    At first I thought S4 was boring, especially after S3 Scary Island. Now I am wondering if maybe Jill has a personality disorder and we should be urging her towards treatment? Psychiatrists and Psychologists out there, does Jill’s behavior have a name? (Stop laughing, I’m serious. Really, I am. Honest).

    I like that Jennifer woman and hope she appears more as the season progresses.

    • katiecoo says:

      My lay person’s diagnosis is Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They rarely go for or respond to treatment as they are never at fault, have no capacity for insight, can’t listen and skew every situation to either make themself look better falsely or make themself look like the victim. Sound familiar?

      • Bloshka says:

        I know that a few people think Jill has NPD. The AngelofDevs blog made a nice case for it. I agree that Jill does have a lot of the traits; I’m not so sure that there is the “significant impairment” that the diagnosis calls for.

        Anyway, no one knows for sure, but Jill does seem to have a skewed view of the world and she seems to process information differently, as in seeing attacks that aren’t there and so on.

      • kitkat says:

        all of a sudden, I am getting the feeling that this is becoming staged. The above comments put that seed in my mind. They ARE friends backstage at “Ellen” and “The View”. Nobody reports that they are snubbing each other or fighting in restaurants when it’s the off season…maybe this has really become “a job.” They don’t want to be boring on TV – a sin! – so they play fight with each other…and plus, they probably aren’t fond of each other anyway so it’s not difficult to start a fight. Kind of like the defense and prosecution lawyers…they go at each other in court with gusto, then play golf next Wednesday.

        • La Dolce Vita says:

          I have often wondered the same thing. Are they all laughing after the shooting if over. On the other hand, I have seen some real hurt (I think) or else they are up for Emmy’s. Ramona especially has exhibited some obvious facial expressions that “if looks could kill, you’d be dead” looks.

  4. boston02127 says:

    Good morning. I had a hard time getting over here from the last blog. I had to go thru Lynn’s twittter. Not sure if I should post this over at the last blog. Lynn or Quincy?

  5. quincyil says:

    I think that Jill Zarin is not intelligent and she is overtly emotional. That makes her the perfect person for Bravo to use in their Modern Greek Tragedy. Bobby Zarin might be a wealthy businessman, but he doesn’t appear to be highly intelligent. He is the perfect husband for Jill Zarin.

    As your unoffical pretend board soothsayer, I predict catastrophic events for most of the reality stars in this series. Bethenny Frankel joined our Medium/Psychic, Witch/card reader/crystal ball readers/tea leave readers/ and women with female intuition club before season three, she just could not get out of the Bravo contract.

    Alex and Simon seem to understand their roles in this. The other stars don’t have a clue.

    • kitkat says:

      I totally agree! Jill ZArin is NOT intelligent. It’s easy to throw around the “dumb” word, but I think she is really dumb, that’s why she is so transparent. AND she thinks she’s smarter than everyone and can manipulate everyone, but we all see through her every time. She’s like a stupid bank robber, she thinks she can beat the system but gets caught every time. Prison is filled with repeat offenders because they never learn, and neither does she. ANd poor Bobby is just trying to survive. He just yesses her to death because it’s easier.

  6. quincyil says:

    When I read the comments on the board and realized that Jill Zarin told the people in her upstream that she knew Alex was coming, that negated her entire argument that she was set up. I believe that she did know and that the people that she was calling about this would eventually share because they always do. None of them can keep a secret.

    • Kukulet says:

      In any case, why did Jill make it into such an issue in the first place? She’d ALREADY seen Alex at the rooftop party and she ALREADY knew Alex would be at the wedding, so her reaction was completely faked.

      And it was a wedding, for heaven’s sake. If you see someone at a wedding that you don’t want to talk to, then you avoid them. It’s not hard to do when there are a lot of guests.

      WHO demands that a bride share her guest list? And WHO says that anyone is socializing “above” them? That’s so totally out of line, it crosses into another plane of bad behavior.

      Manufactured melodrama and despicable behavior – that’s Jill.

      • quincyil says:

        It can’t be a Bravo timeline shift. Alex talks about the Equality Marriage event at Sonja’s. Then, Alex goes to the wedding. We know Jill met Alex so the theatrics of the wedding has something to do with Jill losing the battle to have Alex and Simon uninvited to the wedding. Jill tried to force the bridge to chose between Jill’s presence at the wedding and Alex’s presence at the wedding. The bride did her own thing and was punished at the wedding by Jill and her friends and now punished on twitter and in Jill’s personal blogs.
        This is the way Bethenny was treated by Jill. This is the way Alex and Ramona are treated by Jill Zarin also.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Alex also called Jill out for some of her BS at the wedding and that set Jill off – but that doesn’t explain the reaction when she got out of the car. What is she – two years old?

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Was Jill thinking the only reason the film crew was at the wedding was so they could capture her trying to slide her ass of off a car seat and complain that her griddle is getting caught in it- so she is going to ‘invent’ a bigger and better one?

            Hey- I just thought of something…Jill’s ass is her muse. No wonder she is so fricken dumb.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Not all plans are put into motion with the expected outcome happening as planned. This season Jill started out after Alex and now that she has a truce with her we are seeing the fallout from her nasty plans. Jill can’t admit what she has done because then she would be seen as a liar and insincere in her making amends. Ironically, the things she says she hates she is very good at doing to other people.

      • error404 says:

        This was all explained to us yesterday.

        Jill had written down in her now famous notes that Alex would not attend. Ramoner brought Alex to the wedding, in breech of reality tv filming protocol as described in the NYT, and this threw Jill’s entire story arc off. Therefore, Ramoner is partially to blame for Jill’s reaction. It’s just a theory though.

        • quincyil says:

          I am guessing that there is a script to follow when placing posts on blogs. They want us to see the logic in Jill’s actions. If someone is unaware of the history, they could be swayed. I believe this is why Jill has a following of 17 year old in Australia. They look at her smile and the wink. They see her great wealth. She tells them that she is an author and successful business woman. I know she says all of this because I reseached her internet videos and interviews for the blog’s 4th season story. The problem is Jill is like a snake oil salesman in that her description of her self, in my opinion, is false.

          In my opinion, Jill doesn’t run Zarin Fabrics, Bobby’s oldest son does. Jill’s book did not sell well. My Bed, Bath and Beyond store manager does not have her bedding and he said he won’t be ordering it in the future.
          Her lingerie line is a copy of spanx with a little lace. Bethenny’s product line is more extensive and more creative.

          Jill said she was a real estate agent, but we never could find her license and we looked for it. (We found Tamra Barney’s license. )

          I think Jill stands next to Bobby while he brokers deals and she says she is doing it just like she is a pretend doctor and a pretend relationship expert.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Jill also thinks she is the epitome of all things Jewish and she is not. None of our Jewish friends on IHJZ can relate to her in anyway, shape or form.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Like on WWHL when Ramona said Jill was a secretary not the CEO of a multimillion dollar company! Jill doesn’t understand that just because she says it it makes it so!

          • Mookies1mom says:

            She’s a pretend human being!

          • HW Addict says:

            Her(Jill) seeing herself as more talented, learned and all her other grandiose delusions are part of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. She is textbook Malignant NPD.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        In Jill logic, saying that “Alex is a fucking bitch” and had the audacity to try and associate with people above her, shouldn’t be part of the plot line because she ‘didn’t say it on camera’. The producers used audio of her talking to them and dubbed it in.

        This is the type of (ir)rational we are up against.

      • Bloshka says:

        I agree. In the normal world, no one would even think to ask a bride about the guest list. That would be gauche. I agree that it would cross into a plane of bad behavior.

        Yet in the reality TV world, it might make some sense to call the bride, the producers, and the cast mates. Calling the bride would be nice if one asked her how the wedding filming is supposed to occur so that it goes as the bride would like. Then thinking about the scene arcs would be nice so as to 1) provide the bride with what she wants and 2) do one’s job in reality TV. It’s my theory that all the people involved would talk beforehand so that filming can go on and still fit in with the wedding.

        For example, Bethenny had her wedding on TV. It makes sense to me that the people who knew they were going to be filmed would have talked to Bethenny beforehand to make sure they understood what should be filmed and what not.

        Ramona was at Bethenny’s wedding but did not have a role other than appearing as a guest. Did she know to keep away from the filming in regards to her? My guess, and I repeat guess, is yes, Ramona knew not to go near the cameras for anything substantial.

        But there’s no denying that Jill looked very bad and that revealing that she had spoken to the bride beforehand about the guest list made Jill look even worse and more vile.

        • kotagirl29 says:

          I may be wrong, but I believe they get agreement to film somewhere and then ask people who have been filmed to sign the release. At least that’s how they do it on “Taxicab Confessions”.

          I wrote a lengthy post on this last night, but I accidently erased it and didn’t feel like trying to rewrite it. I read something a loooooong time ago and I believe it was Alex who explained, in part, how the filming works. Each of the ladies gives production a copy of their schedule. Production then decides which of these activities they are going to film and include in the show. I am sure there are other events that are “created” for the express purpose of filming, but let’s stick to the schedule. Alex, Shill and Ramona provided production with the information about the wedding they were all invited to (and attending), production got permission to film from the bride, so they filmed; it shouldn’t matter who is on the guest list. Whether it is their job or not doesn’t matter. And I tend to think that is right, because also in the first episode, Shill asked Kookoo if she was invited to Ramona’s roof top party. Kookoo said she was, but didn’t go because she’s a moron (okay I added that), but the fact remains Shill probably knew they were filming, but did not know who was going to be there. Sorry Bloshka, but your theory just doesn’t hold water.

          • Zoey says:


          • Bloshka says:

            Yeah, it’s a theory. I don’t actually know how it’s done.

            The thing about the schedules makes sense. After all, I doubt the production company wants to go film when the HW are sitting around watching TV.

            You may be right in that the ladies don’t know who will be at a given shoot, but I do notice them getting upset that “X is not supporting me” and so forth.

            Could it be that the proposed schedules include, for example:

            Tuesday: Going to the dentist to see about my veneers. Jill will be accompanying me. Dentist is the foremost oral surgeon in the country. Very exclusive!

            Tuesday: Accompany Cindy to the dentist to see about veneers. This is an important part of taking care of one’s self, NYC style!

            Cindy: So dude, I need to get my veneers done. I have zero interesting story line and I already had my veneers featured on an outing with Sonja.
            Jill: Oh, I’ll go with you to the dentist. It can be a scene about taking care of your teeth, NY style. We certainly do more to appear presentable than other people! I can totally see the producers getting behind this. Cool?

            But all of this is a theory. I have no idea if it’s true, although it makes sense to me.

  7. Furalis says:

    Q You are so right! The Greek Tragedy and feel embarrassed that I am contributing. This show is just sad. I can’t believe that Jill would say the things she said to the bride on her wedding day. There is something mentally wrong with Jill. And her words are just becasue you say it doesn’t make it true and she is the one constantly telling us she’s changed. I think there needs to be group therapy for LuMann, Kelly and Jill. Then throw Bawby in the mix for the last half hour.

    I’m just not into this anymore. I won’t stay up any longer to watch the program, but will DVR as I love this site and the comments.

    I was wondering in the past everyone thinks that Lisa New England got copies of the show prior and that is why the blog went up so quick, but I don’t hear anyone talking about that now. Do you think Bravo spoke to Jill and asked if this was happening as Jill’s own blogs are late. I don’t go to either site I just come here. That would be another great one for Lynn and all of us here.

    • quincyil says:

      Could be….or Darren, Jill’s assistant, who I think writes that blog, is busy putting posts on blogs with hyperlinks back to Jill’s web site.

      I think Jill’s PR people are trying to spin faster than Jupiter which has a 9 hour 55 minute day and is a massive gas giant.

    • quincyil says:

      I am not ashamed to watch the reality show RHNYC. I am watching an evolving form of mass communications. I also monitor Human Behavior as a hobby.

      Nothing Jill Zarin says rings true to me including her comments about IHJZ website and the people here.

      • quincyil says:

        BTW Brown University is a prestigious Ivy League School. They had a Symposium for Media Professionals, Professors, and their students on the topic of reality programs.

        If Brown can discuss these shows, so can we.

    • For the second week in a row, Lisa’s blog is up later than usual. Last week, she posted her blog on Saturday afternoon. She hasn’t posted a blog for Thursday night’s episode yet. Jill doesn’t seem to care when the blogs are posted anymore. I wonder why? Three or four weeks ago, Jill was pressuring “Lisa” to get her blog up early.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I think Jill’s blog on bravo comes out later than others so she can read what all the others have to say first and then create her spin.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Given the quality of Lisa NewEnlands blogs, it wouldn’t take long to write that drivel. I think it takes longer to develop a bowl movement than that crap she/he/it puts up.

  8. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s tweet~~~Happy Birthday Stevie Wonder. LOVE his music! Was amazing at the TV Land Awards.
    Umm Jill, I’m guessing Stevie Wonder isn’t on twitter. Duh.

    • Furalis says:

      Now that is funny.

    • Anne says:

      Then you don’t know that all the mobile device makers; such as, motorola, Ericsson, Nokia and most other make mobile phones for the blind. Further, you have data text come in as voice. Twitter is SMS text, so Jill’s tweet would come in as a voiced text. This has been around for over a decade not new at all.

      • quincyil says:

        My husband speaks into device for his patient notes and a computer instantly has it in written form. You have to go over it, but usually it is perfect. They practice speaking into it so the computer can learn how you say certain words. My husband has an accent and the computer writes in perfect English.

  9. Furalis says:

    Hey I just googled “Jill Zarin is a narcissit” and angelofdevs wrote a blog but it stopped last year. I know she used to contribute here. Does anyone know what happened to her or him. I loved the psychological interpretation of their behaviors.

    • quincyil says:

      No, I don’t know what happened, but if you put the link here, people will jump there to read her opinion. Links are welcome on Lynn’s boards.

  10. boston02127 says:

    Off to work. I’m in the mood for dancing like I’m in the mood to stick a fork in my eye.
    Have a good day everyone. 🙂

  11. ramonacoaster says:

    Jill has gotta change her intro in the show:

    “I’m a narcissistic, self-centered bitch and I don’t own it.”

  12. AZ Girl says:

    @Quincy and Lynn. I commend you both on this week’s blogs and recaps. You both have done a wonderful job. I am sure it has been quite a “rollercoaster” to keep up with all (“ahem” 1000) comments the past few days.

    Thank you posters for the wonderful exchange of comments. I had a busy week at the office and you all were very entertaining.

    I am completely caught up with the comment boards and I am going to the store for more eye drops.

    @Kotagirl: Hope you and your family are doing better. Keep us posted.

    • quincyil says:

      There are more comments on older blogs. The Cat Ommanney exclusive interview is still getting comments as people find this place and decide to enjoy a cup of coffee while reading Lynn’s blogs and the comments on the boards.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Thank you AZ (and everyone)! Leo had another uneventful night, so things are looking good to come home Monday. We are cautiously optimistic, but definitely optimistic. Leo has a VERY damaged heart and he is high risk for more heart attacks. Hopefully the stem cell program can help him regenerate his own heart muscle instead of having to get a transplant. But he is feeling better than he has in a few weeks and REALLY looking forward to coming home.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Thank you. She also had diagnosed LuAnn, Ramoner, and Kelly to a T. Very interesting.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        She sure did. I wonder if Lu was like that when she met her count or if she was molded to that by being with him. Or some of both.

        From Sleepless in Seattle:
        Dennis Reed: Annie, when you’re attracted to someone, it just means that your subconscious is attracted to their subconscious, subconsciously. So what we think of as fate is just two neuroses knowing that they are a perfect match.

  13. jeang says:

    I wonder when the day will come that Jill outdoes herself and alienates her own daughter. We know she has no problem in the past not speaking with her own now beloved sister. Ally and Betheny look so much alike in some photos, they could be sisters, and I wonder if Jill is considering that the day will come when she and Ally dont see eye to eye on something, anything, and all hell will break loose. ? Karma will be a real bitch for her when that day comes.

  14. jeang says:

    I meant to say Ally and Betheny look alot alike in some pictures, especially the one at the top of this page. Makes me wonder what will it take for Ally to get on the wrong side of her mother, career choice, boyfriend, what?

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I’m sure it will happen the day Ally has the audacity to chooser her own husband. Heaven forbid, he isn’t some heir to a fortune with an upper east side address or there will be hell to pay I tell you.

  15. jeang says:

    I know, what if Ally got her own Bravo show without her mama? There you go.

  16. quincyil says:


    Put your hair up on twitter/real city housewives/reality crack house…

    played with Jill’s secret blog I guess everyone is sharing the secrets.

    If you have time, this was interesting.

  17. Furalis says:

    Ally has been pushed around all her life by Jill and ignored by Bawby and it is good that she is away in college it will give her a chance to experience life without them on a daily basis.

    Remember Jill to Ally S1 I’ll take you to the mall if you don;t stop complaining. As they were in NYC shopping. Ugh

    • error404 says:

      pfft. According to Jill, Ally is going to Brown and Jill is buying a house in Providence. Nothing short of the witness protection program will ever get Ally away from her mom, but I doubt she’s even interested.

      Ally has a dad and I would LOVE to know the pre-Bravo history of the Shapiro/Kamen family! I think Ally preferred to be ignored by Bawby, a step dad she had 0 tolerance for. I don’t know if it was “I already have a dad!” or “We were fine when it was just the two of us!” or what, but the world is full of blended families that don’t mesh immediately.

      It seemed to me that Avery tried to get Ally to join in on some fun “aren’t our moms sooo embarrassing!” teen talk at the famous wild-animal-mccord-boys-destroy-hamburger dinner, and Ally just stared at her like she was Lulu speaking French. Jamais!

      • quincyil says:

        Jill says that her first husband’s wife is like a sister in law to her. She also says she is friends with her ex-husband. Ally has siblings and she spends time with them. I used to read her facebook ramblings.

        I can’t imagine that the relationship is that rosey as Jill doens’t really like any of her close friends and had issues with her own sister for years. This is the face that Jill is presenting to the public. I am sure family members know more.

    • cabbie413 says:

      I was embarassed for Ally when Jill sent her to FAT CAMP on tv disguised as a detox cleanse.. oh please, all she commented onwhen she returned was how much weight she lost, not how ‘cleansed’ she was lol.

      A teenager sent to fat camp on television.. THE HORROR!

  18. Eve says:

    Sorry if already posted. AbsurdtoSublime reporting OC’s Vicki has a new BF who is in the insurance bs (hmmm all those late nights at office?) and there is a picture. I think he looks like Donn!

  19. quincyil says:

    Here is an example of the inner workings of the mind of Q. I loved using “lying” and then showing a photo of Jill lying on the couch similar to the owns owned by ancient Greeks.

    Lying may refer to:

    Lie – a deliberate untruth.
    Lying (position) – a horizontal position

    It’s not easy being me.


    • FLG says:

      The second definition is how Countess SBHH entraps EUROPEANS!

      • quincyil says:

        There are books written by psychitrists who use the title, “Lying on the Couch.” I googled it this morning. I think this kind of word association is fascinating.

        • error404 says:

          at least one probably uses Jill as a case study.

          Could you imagine if Jill went to therapy on camera like B?
          JZ: “It was awful. And she didn’t even offer to let me use the bathroom at Serafina!”
          Doc: “So, this Ramoner person, how does her evil pre-planned backstabbing make you feel?”
          JZ: “I just wanted to talk, like two little girls on beach.”
          Doc: “Family seems very important to you. You said this Ramoner person didn’t speak to her Dad, or visit Brooklyn, that she often talked ill of her own parent…”
          JZ: “Yes. Yes. I seem to always pick these friends who disrespect their parents. It’s awful. I’s too trusting.”
          Doc: “Yes. Well when one has a strong family core, it’s easy to think the best of others”.

          • quincyil says:

            This is hysterically funny.

            I wish I had Lynn’s gifts for reviewing the shows. I love how Lynn gives the one liners. I am the polar opposite of Lynn. I analyze and dissect, then come to a conclusion. (This is probably why I am a scientist.)

      • error404 says:

        now, now, you know she uses a combination of the two!

  20. error404 says:

    from day 1 this show has always been about girl gang turf war between Jill and Ramoner. Middle aged women who never left high school.

    in one of the first episodes, Ramoner had a cooking party and purposefully didn’t invite Jill. Countless Lulu could barely get her goodbyes out of her mouth before tattling to her boss Jill about it. 3 years later, and Ramoner is still paying for the slight.

    it’s like a girls-in-prison movie, but without the lock up. The OTT obvious way that Lulu, Kiki, and now Cynthia suck-up to boss Jill, always making sure to give glowing love poems to her many varied virtues on camera, is really creepy.

    Ramoner’s gang, the pinots, is a little more subtle, despite stupid slip-usp like “pecking order”. But paybacks are a bitch.

    Ramoner got Jill’s tv privlidges taken away. Next week, bars of soap are getting put in stockings, and Ramoner better not go into the shower alone.

    • quincyil says:

      I loved this description of the show.

    • quincyil says:

      I bet we all studied the Greek Plays (300 BC) and Shakespeare (1580) in high school. In the year 2500, high school students will take a pill that will deposit our blog in their brains and they will share our thoughts on Jill Zarin and “The Real Housewives of New York City. ” They will wonder about Jill and our interactions. They will look at her photos and wonder why women were wearing pony tails and masques. The will wonder why this woman became so famous/infamous that a group of people followed her for over a year at a website titled: “I Hate Jill Zarin” by lynnnchicago.

  21. FLG says:

    Empress Quincy,
    I think we can officially declare “Operation Salvage Jill’s Reputation” a dreadful failure. Don’t you?

    • quincyil says:

      Well, they Jill Zarin PR team is trying. Yesterday, we heard that there are posts on blogs everywhere that have hyperlinks that take your to Jill Zarin’s website. We see her blogs/people who are her friends writing about the show wink, wink. I was told there is a review of her upstream that is positive, but the blogs commenters have not fallen for her PR campaign. I don’t know about the review and did not see the upstream. I trust the source that gave me this information.

      • error404 says:

        ? Because everybody knows, spamming is the best way to win friends?

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Yes – sending the same “comment” to multiple blogs, with the words “I hate Jill Zarin” and a link to Jill’s blog is not obvious at all. Not even after they were outed on another blog. PR 101. Kellyland.

          What Jill fails to understand is that this blog doesn’t cause people to hate her – she does that all on her own and then they find this blog and vent.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            It’s a trending opportunity. She trended on bad press before so we know she just doesn’t care.

        • quincyil says:

          Careful placement of arguments in favor of Jill. It is more than spam, it is an organized attempt to persuade the blogosphere.

          Bobby told Jill that he would protect her. He hired 4 PR people to train her for the 3rd Season Reuinion as Lynn mentioned in her blogs at the time. Jill has Darren, who is described as an assistant and an in house publicist. It has been suggested by some that Jill places information against her cast mates in these sites. Alex, Ramona, and Bethenny have said this on TV. Alex has giving interviews and suggested this.

          In my opinion, when Jill feels threatened in any way, she lashes out. She lashes out at a family from Chicago. She lashes out at her cast mates. She lashes out at a bride who spoke the truth about Jill’s words and behavior at her wedding.

          Bobby supports Jill as we heard in the phone call. He is her protector. In my opinion, he is footing the bills for the PR department and her venture into the spanx rip off. He stores her left over books in the basment of Zarin Fabrics.

          Last season, Jill became a laughing-stock. Some commedians have created successful careers by doing this, but I don’t think that Jill Zarin wants people to laugh at her in this way. I think her tears in the car indicate that this causes her pain.

          I think I could walk her out of this mess though. I would have her admit to all that has happened and walk away from it to do good deeds. She can’t walk away from stardom so she will be unhappy forever after.

          • quincyil says:

            comedians… I always see the sp errors when I hit the button.

          • error404 says:

            I think Jill has 0 interest in being liked. She has a Stewie Griffin like desire to rule the world. The spam links are just to drive her hits # up for bragging rights.

            Ex: she could have easily shrugged off wedding gate as “agree to disagree’ but instead went into overdrive to crush kill and destroy Jennifer. Absolutely nothing Jill says or does betrays any interest in being liked.

            Darrin, Vincent, whatever the latest screen name is, always sounds the same here… in typical Jill fashion, it’s our fault for making her do these evil things.

            Jill had acting lessons as a kid. And what else do child actors learn but how to cry on cue? It’s not like they’re running thru scenes from Cat on Hot Tin Roof. It’s all “now in this scene, your puppy has just died. When I say action, you look sad and cry”. She cries every time someone exposes one of her lies. Like after Ramoner’s pinot launch where she cried “She humiliated me in front of MY friends”. Ok Jill, the crying was good, but now let’s try it again with lines that make a little more sense.

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              Jill has never put her weapons down and never will – this is a big problem if her goal is to be liked!

      • FLG says:

        I’m positive they are working overtime on damage control, but a band-aid doesn’t work that well on an amputation.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          or a personality transplant! lol

          • FLG says:

            The personality transplant she performed on herself (because she’s all medical doctor/dentist/-ey) was unfortunately rejected. Remember how friendly, kind, relaxed and renewed she declared herself to be? She was in her “doctor heal thou-self mode at the time. As Jill’s bad luck would have it, Kelly, in one of her many foggy moments, mistook Jill’s anti-rejection meds for gummy bears. (Always hide your meds when Kelly is around.) This explains why Kelly amazingly appears sane from time to time this season, meanwhile Jill has returned to being the sobbing beotch she was last season. Boo Hoo.

    • LilyLynn says:

      Haahaa – Jill keeping this blog’s name alive and strong for yet another season! – lol 🙂

  22. housewifeaddict says:

    The six month time difference between when these events occur and when they see them is interesting to think about.

    1. In some cases like Alex and Sonja they’ve truly made up and moved past it, and just wait for things to subside while being supportive of each other.

    2. In some cases like Ramona and Jill things must have gotten worse or stayed the same, because they could barely get along on WWHL a few weeks ago.

    3. NeNe and Kim were still friends on screen but had moved to a place where they were no longer talking to each other off screen, and NeNe could barely contain her dislike throughout the season and in her blogs – and just kept hinting and hinting that everyone would let her down.

    Where are we today with the NY Housewives?

    1. Alex, Ramona, and Sonja are still a team, and tweet love notes to each other continuously.

    2. Kelly and Jill loves them some Cindy – what a gal!

    3. While Kelly is terrified of Ramoner (the new Bethenny), she seems to be okay with Alex and Sonja.

    4. LuLu still seems to be hanging on to team Jill, but only out of loyalty and because she can’t stand Alex or Ramoner. We know she knows Kelly is BSC but she tries to be nice to her. I can’t imagine she likes Cindy at all. She may genuinely like Sonja as well – and drift her direction.

    5. Alex and Jill seem to have called an uneasy truce. They don’t like each other and they both know it – but they aren’t at war onscreen (or even openly off screen) any longer. It’s probably less stressful for both of them. Jill needs to target all her negative energy to Ramoner, and Alex doesn’t do well with conflict.

    My prediction – Jill will only have Cindy on her side by the end of the show. The other ones will distance themselves slowly. Except Kelly, who will make sand angels.

    • error404 says:

      I think Alex and Jill “settled out of court” because even if you are right, it’s often easier just to pay to make it go away than ruin yourself trying to defend yourself against false accusations. Alex has kids, and she’s not going to end up homeless just because Jill is obsessed with destroying anyone who exposes one of her lies.

      We’ve seen Ramoner kiss Jill’s ass for 3 seasons, because she knows very well that it’s easier to lose your dignity than your house. But I think she’s hit her runner’s walls. She just can’t take it anymore. RHNY has made Ramoner richer and better connected, while Jill is unpopular and despite an ego the size of Texas, can’t seem to sell cold water in a desert. All of her business venture are epic failures.

      Back before Kiki and Jill were besties, all sorts of horrid rumors were in the press about Kiki beating up her bf, etc.. Once she came under Jill’s protection, it all magically stopped.

      Cindy is not very bright, and she currently thinks Jill has the influence to help her expand her brand. Poor sod. She’ll learn.

      Lulu and Jill are BFFs and I doubt that will ever change.

      • quincyil says:

        Kelly thought that Bethenny put things in the online gossip columns about her. I wonder if Jill did that. On screen, they were friends, but who knows what was going on in Jill’s head.

        • error404 says:

          Jill never welcomes the newbies with open arms. In fact, she’s always kinda cold-shoudlerish to them. As contrasted by Ramoner who always goes out of her way to make nice. I remember K&R doing things: fashion show, Richard Meier Museum. Jill’s shopping bag outing was later IIRC, after Kiki was all “How dare Ramoner make me look bad at a museum!”. Like how Jill was all “who the f are you” to Cynthia at the gallery, but after cigargate she just happened to show up at her house early in the am and was shocked, shocked I tell you to hear that Cynthia didn’t like Ramoner.

          I know that B had a preexisting grudge with Kiki, which is perhaps why she was vulnerable. But we’ve seen Jill send her flying monkey’s out to give her enemies a good smack down too many times to be fooled. Kiki was all “I’m too hot shit to put my fabulous name of some amateur charity for fat kids” and I doubt B went all attack dog on her without Jill’s instructions. Jill practically came right out and said “apparently this bitch is too important to take down, so we better make nice” to B when she arrived for the “Stawp! Stawp!” ambush. Oh right, it wasn’t an ambush because B and J planned it before it happened.

        • cabbie413 says:

          Kelly is so dumb. She put herself in the papers when she hit her boyfriend and had to go to jail. I don’t believe for one minute that Bethenny wasted her breath on crazy Kelly. Kelly showed herself early on when she joined #rhony and everyone saw the crazy and it took off from there.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Bethenny was too busy making a fortune!

    • FLG says:

      OT – Lucky, lucky – Countess Squash Blossom High Horse now has a fabulous PAIR of Koala clips! Imagine her good fortune! She’s getting a pair of earrings out of the deal! Finally, some jewelry smaller than a hubcap. (I did go back and watch the limo scene clip and while Jill said “no, I’m never talking to her again, I’m done.” and LuAnn does protest a little bit, but LuAnn never actually gave the Koala back to her.) (She may have in the full show version, but my eyes and ears could only stomach the short clip)

      • floridagirl88 says:

        “…hubcap…” Hilarious

      • Furalis says:

        You are to good funny funny funny. Everytime I see it ” Countess Squash Blossom High Horse ” I just crack up. It so hits the nail on the head on so many levels….

  23. housewifeaddict says:

    Why would Jill expect anyone to believe that Ramoner and Jennifer the bride set her up at the Pinot party? Just because:
    1) Ramoner refused to tell her if Alex was going to the wedding or not – and took pleasure out of withholding the secret from Jill?
    2) Jennifer didn’t go out of her way to share her guest list with Jill?

    “Set me up and lied about what I said or did at the wedding.”

    Bad acting – maybe. Jennifer may be a little uncomfortable around the cameras, and she was repeating something that happened a month earlier. She had a least shared the story with Alex during or just after the wedding – but possible not Ramoner – who may have been obsessed by the Howie/Carol incident.

    But why was Jill so afraid that Alex was going to the wedding?

    My guess is this.

    1) She had just seen Alex a few days earlier at another Ramoner party, and managed to say a few words and keep her distance.
    2) She was setting up a story arc that she was afraid of Alex – hence the “hold me Bobby I’m about to faint” act when she saw Alex at the wedding. BUT

    Alex wasn’t having any of that silliness at the wedding. She was determined to let Jill know that she was expected to support that Wedding March for Equality – and not let a weekend in the Hamptons get in her way. Caught with Alex calling her out on camera – Jill shifted gears and let her true feelings slip – and then yelled at the bride.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      In Jill’s head being set up = anything she doesn’t want to happen.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I also think her logic about Ramona had rehearsed with the conversation with Jennifer because she truly looked shocked when Jennifer told her what Jill said to her at the wedding was so ridiculous. She looked shocked because she was. Although she shouldn’t be after years of dealing with this beeotch.

        If ANYTHING was rehearsed it was the stupid limo scene with Jill crying about not being able to give Ramona her dumb gift from Australia. And then the follow up comments from Kookoo and Beaver Barshop about how “cute” it was that Jill wanted her to get the gift.

  24. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill is not a tragic heroine or misunderstood in any way, shape or form – she is a villian. Everything she whines about having happened to her – she has done to others. She talks about ambushes, truces, grudges and out right lies – yet she does all those things and then laughs at her targets for being upset or honest about her machinations. Jill would have gotten more positive press and viewer reaction if she would just own her dispicable behavior!

  25. Zoey says:

    The whole ‘set up’ phrase means two things to me, if one has to repeatedly use it:

    1. You think that everything is about you. Everything everyone does is aaallll about you. They are ALL setting you up. Their every thought and plan centers on YOU.

    2. You’re always doing something you shouldn’t be! If you’re constantly worried about being caught, being set up, not given notice to prepare, you’re doing a lot of things you shouldn’t be!

    • error404 says:

      It probably was a set up. The police call it a sting. Criminals call it entrapment.

      Clinton may have indeed been victim of a vast right wing conspiracy to discredit him, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t playing “Commander in Chief” with Monica. Both he and Jill are confused on why they aren’t afforded the same cover-up everyone else is.

      Jill is an idiot. Her entire point is “How dare they expose me as the petty jealous liar I am! Aren’t they just awful” LOL

      • Bloshka says:

        Exactly! The Clintons claim there was a right-wing conspiracy against them. It may or may not be the case and I don’t want to start a debate about that here. But the existence of a conspiracy could still be true AND be consistent with the fact that Bill Clinton misbehaved with Lewinsky. The two are not mutually exclusive.

        (As an aside: From my perspective, the special prosecuter did go way deeper into the details of the Clinton-Monica tryst than was necessary. Frankly, I did not need to know so many details. The knowing it had occurred at all was enough.)

        So is a bit of a parallel here: Ramona, the bride and the producers might have thought it clever to fail to inform Jill about all the people who would be filming at the wedding. That could be true and still be consistent with the fact that Jill behaved poorly.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I’m pretty sure I read that the producers “set up” the Ramona / Simon encounter at the “Girls only dinner” S1 by telling Simon to go. Look – why wouldn’t they want to stir things up a little. They have a show to film.

          However – I don’t think the Bride was LYING when she said Jill tore her a new one at the wedding. Everyone needs to be responsible for their own reaction to things – this is S4 and they should know better!

          • Bloshka says:

            Oh I so agree. Jill definitely behaved very badly. No one should be confronted on their wedding day. I mean.

          • Bloshka says:

            About Simon being set up. Yeah, it could be.

            Remember when Ramona got so upset about Simon’s being at that dinner party? She said something like “I thought this was a girl’s night.” In retrospect, this was code for “I thought this was a housewives filming and I’m upset that Simon is here because 1) he’s not a housewife and 2) it screws up my screening plans.”

            • quincyil says:

              Simon and Alex said that the ladies dinner was the only time they were manipulated by Bravo. They always had the freedom to go or not go to an event besides that. If you want people to come to your event, you go to theirs.

      • Zoey says:

        The whole set up thing is a cop out for bad behavior. They can’t set her up to fail. Entrapment-same thing.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Yes!!! That’s funny. I think we were typing the comments about the whole concept of “set up” at the same time.

      I think I’ve realized the other reason I can’t stand JZ is that I feel her attempts to spin her behavior truly insult my intelligence. One thing I cannot stand is being treated like I’m an idiot. She continues to do this by dangling her stupid newsletter in our faces and trying to get us to sign up before each new episode so we can get the “real” story. “See if you can tell who is acting!” Yes, I can. It’s YOU, JZ! And poorly, I might add.

      That exchange with Jennifer in the end of the episdode this week where Jennifer stuck to her guns and said that Jill DID demand an explanation about Alex’s invite and why she is friends with Jill, then Jill basically just ended the conversation by hugging her, then going in to tell Ramona that she cleared things up with Jennifer. Really? She must think we are all incredibly dumb.

      She needs to listen to her own stupid words, “Just because you say it, it doesn’t make it true.” Just because you, JZ, are an idiot and believe your own lies doesn’t mean we do.

      • susan says:

        I agree with you. And it just drives me nuts when she says something really awful and then totally denies that she ever said it. Does she think we are dumb, deaf and blind?

        • ihearttalavera says:

          She apparently also doesn’t understand that Bravo reruns past episodes, oh I don’t know only, ALL THE TIME!

      • Bloshka says:

        That’s an interesting observation.

        Jill does seem to be clueless about how her behavior is perceived by others and also oblivious to the fact that she often makes a statement and then contradicts herself later; that is, that she lies. I’m not sure she’s actively thinking that other people are stupid though. I think she may not understand deep down in her mind that her behavior is observed over time.

        As to what she thinks of others: Jill does seem to think she is more special than other people; whether that includes thinking that other people are dumb, I just don’t know.

        I wonder, if this is so, how Jill missed the neurological connections that would make her aware that she can be observed over time. Was she allowed to get away with lying in childhood and not observed sufficiently to notice that other people take notice of her?

        Your statement “One thing I cannot stand is being treated like I’m an idiot” is very interesting. It tells me that you and a lot of other people feel it’s insulting when Jill lies. Maybe that’s what makes Jill so reviled: her lies are so obvious and her spin so ineffective that she seems to essentially be telling people they are stupid.

      • Furalis says:

        Well said!!!!

      • lovemamaearth says:

        It sounds like you agree with this:
        ■A grandiose sense of self-importance. These people may exaggerate achievements or expect to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements.
        ■Preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance or beauty.
        ■Believes he or she is *special* and unique. They believe they can only be understood by other special or high status persons and that is who they believe they should associate with.
        ■Requires excessive admiration.
        ■A strong sense of entitlement. This may include unrealistic expectations of especially favorable treatment or an automatic compliance by others with his or her expectations.
        ■Interpersonally exploitative, often taking advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
        ■Lack of empathy, unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
        ■Often envious of others or believes others are envious of them.
        ■Demonstrates arrogant or haughty behaviors or attitudes.

        • Bloshka says:

          I do think that Jill has many traits of narcissistic personality disorder: envious, arrogant, entitled, thinks she’s special, and so on. I also think that she might fit the main criterion for a personality disorder: “an enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates markedly from the expectations of the culture of the individual who exhibits it.” The expectations of others are not the same as what Jill thinks they are and her inner experience is possibly quite different from that of others.

          But, and this is a big but, most personality disorders cause serious impairment in social and work situations. Generally speaking, a person with full-blown NPD would not be able to sustain friendships and relationships and might possibly be functioning on a very low level. This is where I think Jill doesn’t qualify since she is able to function and quite well too.

          People with NPD are set up differently in neurological terms. If I remember correctly, the center of the brain responsible for empathy is not developed or very underdeveloped, and I believe there are a few other differences.

          Anyway, diagnosing from afar is not only frowned upon, it is useless. For a correct diagnosis, a skilled psychiatrist would do a structured interview with a patient and with people who know her well, and the patient would be asked a great deal about her inner experience, frequency and duration of symptoms, and would also be assessed in regards to her ability to function. It’s pretty complex and very subjective.

  26. ihearttalavera says:

    So Jill’s definition of being “set up” is getting invited to an event which you are not aware of and/or have the ability to approve every single person on the guest list??? Or is it getting called out for lying??? I’m very confused.

    housewifeaddict, This comment by you: “What Jill fails to understand is that this blog doesn’t cause people to hate her – she does that all on her own and then they find this blog and vent,” is BRILLIANT!!

    That is exactly how I found this blog. I was so completely outraged by this season’s first episode that I went to read the comments on her Bravo blog. I thought surely I would find other people who shared my opinion. Nope – nothing but praise and compliments. I thought I was going to lose my mind. Then after some google research, thank God I found Lynn’s blog. So much great information, amazing people, and good laughs. Thank you to Lynn, Quincy, and all of the amazing people who comment here.

  27. susan says:

    My JZ rant: Where do you get off wanting to know who is on a bride’s guest list? You get invited and you decide whether or not to go. End of story. What class Jill ! Your Jewish Mother ( and I am Jewish so I can say this) obviously did not treat you wedding etiquette or you ignored her. Given what a sweetie Gloria is, I choose the latter.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Or ANY guest list. Shouldn’t she just be thrilled that anyone invites her to anything????

      • jeepers1941 says:

        ihearttalavera I think you might have solved the problem as far as jz and her bs. Everyone should just stop inviting jz to events. Doing that means everyone will have a good time and no drama from the bitch. Just black ball her, right? But then Bravo would not allow that to happen, they need the drama to keep bring in the $$.
        Another thing I don’t get is, why does everyone refer to jz as “the star” of RHONY? She is not, none of these women are stars, they are castmates in a reality show and nothing more. Just as Bethenny was when she was in the show. But since she has had her own show, she is a “STAR” and she earned that title by hard work…

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Yes, perhaps if they stopped inviting her the show would become more BEA-esque. Wouldn’t that be lovely?

          I also hate hearing her referred to as a star in any form. I know it makes her very happy and gives her the little bit of affirmation she needs to keep showing her face and running her mouth and making all of us miserable.

          Gather your toys, and go home, JZ. Please.

    • FLG says:

      Gloria, a sweetie? Excuse me while I catch my breath……..She’s the tree the apple didn’t fall far from. Remember the “Mother’s NOT happy photo shoot? She struck me as a total yenta control freak.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Gloria creeps me out and I have yet to hear anything nice out of her cryptkeeper lips!

      • jeepers1941 says:

        When that photo shoot was happening, and she kept saying that I was laughing so hard, I peed my pants. The look on jz face was something else, omg, how funny!!!

  28. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill has a whopping two comments on her Bravo Blog – neither are particularly nice. Oddly enough Alex has 60 comments and she was not featured this past episode. Guessing the Bravo interns are having a difficult time finding printable posts for our new and improved Jill Zarin. LOL we are not the only blog that apparently hates her.

  29. Adgirl says:

    LuAnn is the ringleader of all of this.

    All is Fair in Love & War:
    1. Jill reports to LuAnn the “insult” to Team Mean.
    2. LuAnn decides if the insult by Bethenny, Ramona, Alex or Sonja requires retribution.
    3. The Team gathers to discuss.
    4. LuAnn shapes the context of how horrifying & low class the insult was.
    5. LuAnn rallies the troop under the Etiquette and Class banner.
    6. LuAnn authorizes the smear and strike at will.

    LuAnn: Ring leader. Smear and Undermines. Leads from afar.
    Jill: Recognizance. Field operations. Technician. Confronter.
    Kelly: Victim.
    Cindy: Ambitious. Confronter.

    If LuAnn disapproved of this behavior – it wouldn’t happen!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I’m not sure. I think she’s an enabler like Bawbee – but not the ring leader. But who really knows what goes on behind the scenes.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO – Jill is the leader, LuAnn is her enforcer, Kelly is her loony groupie. Cindy will be the one who gives Jill a majority, which makes her the winner in her juvenile game of them vs us. The element that is missing is someone with a brain who can formulate a strategy.

  30. Adgirl says:

    @ error404 – your comment above “How dare you…..” made me laugh.

    My parents had a saying: “How dare you accuse me of doing the things that I did!”.

    Typically this was employed when I was caught red-handed making unauthorized excursions. “Who me?”

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sort of like when my youngest says, “I accidently did it on purpose.”!

    • error404 says:


      I once went thru this odd phase where I stuck the word “Apparently” in front of sentences where it made no sense. Like “Apparently, I went home with him at the end of the party.”

      • susan says:

        There is a judge on “The Good Wife” (played by former SNL actress _____ Gastenmeyer (spelling?)) who insists that all attorneys who argue before her close their argu,emnt with the phrase, “In my opinion.” She slaps them down if they don’t.

        • Furalis says:

          Luv that show good wife and I always bring that up with my brother when we are talking politics and he just laughs. He’s the one that got me hooked on the show.

          Favorite Line of the day – “I accidently did it on purpose.”! I’m so going to use that the next time people accuse me of being me! LOL

  31. ihearttalavera says:

    I’m sure I need to go back and read the WWHL blog, and this will be there, but it’s been a busy week… Kookoo and Beaver Barbershop’s appearance on WWHL was the worst ever. Does K think laughing makes you funny? I realized this morning that some of the most intelligent people I know are also the funniest. This would explain why she is so NOT funny. The harder she seemed to try, the dumber she seemed. Painful.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I think she had rehearsed her answers, and wasn’t even listening to the questions. That grin then laugh was very very scary – it’s like she’s living in her own little world up in that short circuiting brain of hers.

      Cynthia is the queen of evil looks and trash talking. No fun at all. I think she only became a housewife because she was willing to mix it up with Ramoner right away and elevate the level of drama. Although the producers do seem fascinated by her teeth for some reason.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Yeah Kelly’s handlers told her to laugh and not make a scary face on WWHL and to be thankful to Bravo for her amazing career. So Kelly laughed, but made no sense. And Kelly thanked Bravo for making Skinnygirl a success. Bottomline, there is no way to make crazy look sane.

  32. Rabble Rouser says:

    Grrrr, are some of my comments ending up in blog jail?

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I don’t know anything about jail. If I knew how to get you out, I would!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        LOL- I think Q or Lynn would probably need to be the ones to set them free.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I think if you put too many links in a post you get an automatic trip to jail.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            There wasn’t any links but the comment was long.

            • Mookies1mom says:

              Sometimes wordpress has a mind of it’s own. Mookie’s Dad uses it a lot and occasionally has run into problems with it.

    • cabbie413 says:

      do u think you’re posting them on the wrong page? You have to make sure you’re on the right page

      I wish it was morelike a forum instead of just comments because it would be a lot easier to follow conversations and navigate.

      Love the blog, nonetheless!

    • quincyil says:

      I will go and look.


  33. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill’s terms for a friendship are not easily met. It appears that LuAnn and Kelly meet the terms because Jill’s agenda overlaps with their agendas. Now it looks like Cindy is a good candidate for a Jill friendship and it will give Jill want she wants – to be leader of the majority of the NY housewives.

  34. Rabble Rouser says:

    Attempt # 3

    Jill just stuns me. It really almost makes me speechless the way her mind works..or doesn’t work since it’s obviously malfunctioning.

    Jill obviously suspected Alex would be at the wedding, since she was already filmed admitting to trying to fish around for information. And since she has already pointed out the nature of the beast (Ramona caused drama at her own event because it ensures that that scene will make it through editing) then there had to be a reason the Bravo camera’s where at the wedding.

    Even if the bride, Ramona and Alex (not to mention the universe-because poor Jill is such a victim) all conspired against her- by springing Alex on her at the wedding- WHO CARES? It’s not like she hadn’t already seen Alex since last season or that she wouldn’t be seeing Alex given that they are in the same (now underlining on ridiculous) TV show. I’m not sure how that would give license for Jill and her ‘drunken’ friends to act like a pack of rabid dogs who chased the bride like she was a hare.

    There was also a scene where Jill claims the bride did tell her that Alex was going to be there but that she had just ‘forgot’. Which is it Jill, you knew or you didn’t know? I’m having a little trouble keeping up with your bullshit.

    Jill, Jill, Jill….haven’t you ever heard that you shouldn’t lie because it’s harder to remember the lies you tell than the truth. There is a saying, “The Devil is in the details” , is that why you don’t want to discuss
    them? Afraid of what incantation will be conjured up? This is why your ‘feet get held to the fire’…because you are a witch…BURN WITCH BURN.

    Jill was recorded calling Alex ‘a fucking bitch’ who had the audacity trying to associate with ‘people who are above her’. Jill tries to explain it away by saying that it doesn’t count because she didn’t say it on camera, she was talking to a producer and the used the audio in the scene.

    Huh? YOU said it Jill.

    So….after losing your shit that Alex was at the same wedding as you…being that she is a ‘fucking bitch’ and ‘beneath’ you, the ‘new’ and ‘I have changed’ Jill Zarin is ready to make amends and bury the hatchet.

    Let’s not pretend like all of you broads didn’t steal a page from the RHOBH script. Be sure to mention ‘pecking orders’, status and accusations of alcoholism.

    What’s next season a fistfight at a ‘bar mitzvah’?

  35. This is an interesting tweet from Rob Shuter:

    NaughtyNiceRob: Casting directors are looking for new #RHONY Are @bravoTv adding or replacing the cast?

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I’m betting on replacing many of them.

      Despite them trying to push the cleaver of the beaver on us, no one cares. Her and her 4 friends can tweet about how ‘real’ she is, but what it is, she is just ‘really’ annoying…and weird.

      I also suspect that Ramona is going to get her hand slapped for hitting a a producer.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        IDK. Peeps seem to think that was mainly a nasty rumor Jillosy started.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Well, I wouldn’t put that past her. I’m sure it was her that planted the story that Alex wasn’t coming back.

        • That’s possible but I wouldn’t be surprised if Jill is one of the members of the cast that is going to be replaced. I don’t think she is worth the aggrevation and I am sure she is giving Bravo a hard time behind the scenes. I can only imagine what she has put them through the last couple of seasons.

          • FLG says:

            Anyone who will call their lawyers over a stupid non-scientific poll, can’t be a joy to work with!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        This “report” comes on the heels on a non official housewife being part of a pivotal story arc….
        It has never been a secret that fans think there are too many NY housewives. Last year many fans made it clear that they didn’t want to see Kelly return, Jill was viral and LuAnn was an utter bore – Bravo knows this franchise needs to be pruned – look at the ratings!

        • Bloshka says:

          I haven’t seen the ratings but the whole HW franchise may have already jumped the shark.

          Way back when, OC was fascinating for showing us a group of women who conformed to a particular standard of beauty and were very, very materialistic and not very intelligent. Back then it was riveting and it also made me feel much better about myself. But now OC is just not interesting anymore; we’ve seen it enough.

          NJ was interesting in the same way. And NYC was interesting to me. While I know that the arrivistes exist because I see them around, I had fun looking into their lives.

          At some point, the shows started featuring more one-on-one controversies and people loved that. I was pretty shocked and amused by “I’m up here and you’re down here.” And please don’t tell me you didn’t love the NJ dinner party; I sure did.

          But now the entire franchise has devolved into catfighting, and I’m not sure that’s sustainable for very long. Plus, having been on for a time, the shows are no longer a revelation about how other women perceive the world.

          I read somewhere that Bravo is developing a lot of new television shows. Well, I wish them a lot of luck, because they have been consistent in very watchable TV with Project Runway, the HW franchise, and more. They really have done a very good job.

        • error404 says:

          No. I was just over at Cynthia’s Bravo blog, and one commenter posted that Cindy Jill LuAnn and Kelly are the only housewives she likes the the only reason she watches the show. So, maybe it’s the others that are getting fired. Everybody knows that blog comments don’t lie, and its not like Jill has staff out there planting positive feedback.. I mean com’on, that would mean she’s crazy, right?

      • FLG says:

        If Jill looses her housewife gig, Bawby better build a huge warehouse for all of Jill’s overstock items. No wonder Jill’s selling stuff on Ebay as fast as she can get it listed. Hardbacks, Paperbacks, bedding and gussets…..That’s going to take a long time to liquidate. Ramona could help schlep the schmattas, but I don’t think she’s going to be in the mood since Jill is trying to pee-pee in Ramona’s Pinot.

    • lillybee says:

      I think Bravo does that every year for every HW show.

  36. housewifeaddict says:

    Under all the lies and misdirection – I’m seeing a common thread from Jill’s comments.


    • housewifeaddict says:

      Oops- posted before I finished my thought. I believe Error mentioned above that she DOESN’T CARE IF SHE’S LIKED.

      How true! She only cares about hits to her blog, or about schleeping a product. I wonder how many times her Sleezewear was mentioned and ended up on the cutting room floor – in the meantime all we’ve heard is Pinot Pinot Pinot Grigio. So much that I’m going to look for it next time I go wine shopping!!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I’m sure it’s burning her ass that Ramona’s wine is getting a big push (much like Bethanny’s Skinny Girl brand) while on the show her crap is getting barely a mention and at best only alluded to.

        So Jill is left with having to resort to an appearance on WWHL looking like she dressed to be part of the studio audience for Let’s Make A Deal.

        Sorry Jill, but no one is buying your crap. But we do have a nice parting gift for you…no not a Kola clip…but Rice-a-roni…the San Fransisco treat.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          lol – Jill should get a lovely parting gift – like a swift kick in the ass but if she is wearing her squeezers than the delivering foot would likely be broken!

        • Kukulet says:

          Well, and Bethenny and Ramona are both hitting the right markets. Their drinks aren’t overpriced for the current economy…and people will always buy alcohol. People will always books that make them feel empowered or inspire them, which Bethenny’s “A Place of Yes” does. And a lot of women love to buy cookbooks that emphasize healthy eating.

          Jill’s bedding line, on the other hand, isn’t that attractive, only really “works” in homes that are decorated as poorly as hers is, and is overpriced. People are struggling-they don’t have money to waste on overpriced linens with blech patterns. Women who shop at Bed, Bath, and Beyond buy linens with patterns they love. It’s like artwork-we have to look at every day, we want something we enjoy.

          Jill is a loser.
          Bethenny and Ramona are not.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Good points.

          I like this bit too:

          Who has been fired from Bravo’s Housewives series and why? Quinn Fry of Orange County and DeShawn Snow of Atlanta were both let go reportedly because they were dull and didn’t have much to offer in the way of drama.

          Jeana Keough of Orange County reportedly wanted more money and Lisa Wu Hartwell of Atlanta wanted more control over what was shown and allegedly refused to be put into positions and attend gatherings per Bravo’˜s instructions. Both women are no longer full time housewives yet both have made appearances on their shows.

          Lynne Curtain seems to have been let go because her daughter’s were too much of a liability and this family had fans in a frenzy. Between the complete inappropriateness of their two daughters behavior, to the laid back way Frank and Lynne Curtain handled their almost completely non-existent discipline, it was a recipe for a legal disaster.

          It was widely reported that Danielle Staub was let go from the New Jersey Housewives due to her erratic and boarding on illegal activity.

          Allegedly –

          Michaele Salahi crashed the White House, no termination.
          Ramona Singer slapped a Bravo Producer, no termination.
          Jacqueline Laurita’s daughter pulled Danielle Staub’s hair, no termination.
          Sheree Whitfield pulled cast mate Kim Zolciak’s hair, no termination.
          NeNe Leakes choked Kim Zolciak in a Target Parking lot, no termination.
          Tareq Salahi threw a drink in the face of cast mate Lynda Erkiletian, no termination.
          LuAnn de Lesseps daughter was filmed rolling a marijuana cigarette, no termination.
          Tamra Barney threw a drink in Jeana Keough’s face, no termination.
          Laurie Peterson’s son was arrested for possession of heroin, no termination.

      • error404 says:

        OMG I actually went to the store last night and bought it. It’s not bad! Granted, it’s kinda hard to screw up pinot and I’m no wine expert, but it was good and Ramoner was right, the colder the better, although maybe that’s not a sign of a great wine. LOL Anyway, we got a good buzz off it too, but neither Mr404 nor I suddenly accused the other of talking about us behind our backs, so the whole “It was the pinot talking” theory of Lulu’s probably isn’t valid. It’s not a hallucinogen LOL

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Where can you get it? I usually buy my wine in the grocery store.

          • error404 says:

            Oh, they don’t really sell wine in the grocery store in NY. I posted a link here yesterday of all the places in NYS where it’s sold (lots). There are only 3 liquor stores in my small village, and 2 of them sell it.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              I wonder where it is available in SoCa.

              I usually don’t buy the HW products but since I drink Pinot anyway…maybe I will give it a whirl. Especially if it sticks it to JZ

            • error404 says:

              Ok, you can search for it here. It’s currently only in 7 states (CA, CT, FL, NJ, NY, OH & TN), but can be ordered in some others. The distributor does almost all 50, so maybe it will expand if it proves popular.


            • vilzvet says:

              Can you believe I haven’t opened mine yet from her wine signing a couple of weeks ago…I keep forgetting to. I could’ve used it I guess when I made chicken piccata last week but I ended up using white cooking wine.

        • FLG says:

          It’s not a hallucinogen….ROFLMAO

    • Bloshka says:

      Well, yeah.

      — It was about screen time (and scene plans) when, in S1, Ramona got upset that Simon was at the dinner party.
      — It was about screen time and business when Ramona blew a gasket about the lack of pinot grigio at Cindy’s party. Ramona wants her infommercial to go on.
      — It was about screen time when, in S1, Alex said she’d sell tickets to the Creaky Joints charity and then she didn’t.
      — It was about screen time and business when Cindy invited some of the housewives to her salon.
      — It was about screen time and business when Bethenny ordered a Skinny Girl margarita at every restaurant and bar.
      — It was about getting discounted or free appliances when Silex had their housewarming and Jill played along and remarked about the brand name GE.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I’m kind of bothered that you’re posting under Bloshka here instead of Terry.

  37. Arya Stark says:

    Bravo is actually publishing some “real” comments on the blogs this week! Not many, Jill’s only has 2 comments so far, but they ARE there. Woo!

    I loved this one on Kelly’s blog. Saving it here in case it is taken down.

    Submitted by M.Y.M. on May 13, 2011.

    Kelly ~

    I’ve always thought you to be an unbelievably beautiful woman.

    I have also always thought that you handle conflict poorly, you contradict yourself regularly, and you exhibit the mannerisms and vernacular of a teenager. I found it entertaining and entirely appropriate that “like” was the drinking buzzword on WWHL last night. Given all of this, it continues to remain a mystery to me that you appear to be an excellent mother. Nevertheless, your children are your legacy and, from that perspective, it would seem that you leave a wonderful stamp on the world.

    I began to like you this season. I think I understood that you want to be happy, enjoy life, and continue to view it through rose-colored glasses. I found it admirable that you seemed to want to acknowledge and grow from your mistakes. I still thought that it was important to be able to, when appropriate, view life realistically, and to actually take responsibility for your actions as opposed to just giving that lip service… But I was genuinely beginning to appreciate and to like you.

    *Sigh* And then, there was last night on WWHL. When one of the callers asked you the question about Bethenny’s success, you gave THE MOST RIDICULOUS response. Rather than acknowledge the hard work that brought Bethenny to her current state of success, you credited Bravo. Yes, Bravo gave Bethenny a platform, but it was SHE who was smart enough, savvy enough, confident enough, aggressive enough to utilize it. SHE created her brand, her fans, her recognition. SHE put in the work. Not an ex-husband whose name she keeps, Ms. Killoren BENSIMON. BETHENNY FRANKEL is responsible for her reported $100M-plus empire, not Bravo. Perhaps you’re incapable of understanding any of that, or perhaps you’re jealous of all that SHE has accomplished. Whatever the case, I found your response to be inappropriate and utterly classless. A few days ago on WWHL, a caller asked Bethenny if she felt vindicated because her net worth is now a multiple of yours. Bethenny’s response was not mean or a dig. She responded with class. You didn’t. As you pointed out last night, you’re 43 years old ~ it’s unfortunate that you’ve not developed the maturity to objectively acknowledge someone else’s accomplishment.

    Good luck to you.

    ~ Michelle

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      It seems like the secrete to getting a comment posted is with a complementary fist line.

      • vilzvet says:

        Absolutely, the first line got it through. The intern never bothered to finish reading it. Kudos to that great post!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Another trend is posting on someone else’s blog and sneaking your Jill zingers in that way.

    • cabbie413 says:

      great post whoever posted it – i like the niceties at the beginning then she went in for the kill – go michelle!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Love this post. Ironically, K’s response proved she is dripping with jealousy. If she would have just simply said, “I’m happy for her. She worked hard,” she would have looked so much better. Even if it was a lie. One thing this show has definitely taught me is that it is so unattractive to be jealous and hateful. Nobody can wear hatred and jealousy well.

  38. cabbie413 says:

    i ran across this video on youtube about narcissistic personality disorder and omg while he’s not talking about Jill Zarin, all of these descriptions fit her to a T http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7sOvnaR3E

  39. WindyCityWondering says:

    Does Jill think that she is not getting enough “promo” time for her products? Cindy and Ramona are definately getting quality promotional time and even LuAnn is getting her boytoy’s wines included in the series. Maybe if Jill would spend less time making the other wives look bad, Bravo would give her time to gab about her sheets, girdles and husband’s discount fabrics!

  40. boston02127 says:

    From Jill’s twitter~~~
    HATERS: (H)aving (A)nger (T)oward (E)veryone (R)eaching (S)uccess Love don’t hate!
    Reaching Success? Really? What success? Exactly what success has Jill Zarin accomplished?

    A failed book. The anti-bullying campaign she never started? Never heard anything about the arthritis foundation after that first fundraiser either. Skweez Couture a.k.a. Spanx, nope…that product isn’t getting off the ground. Bedding? I can purchase bedding anywhere, Jill can’t be making much off of that. Selling cloths on Ebay for the Zarin Family Foundation a.k.a. Ginger’s vet bills?

    The only thing Jill has succeeded in doing is hurting others, using others, gossiping, spending other people’s money. Lying, fake crying, and not dying.

    • Kukulet says:

      Snort. There’s such a rich irony in Jill Zarin lecturing people about being “haters”.

    • quincyil says:

      She usually is reacting to an event. Did something happen?

    • quincyil says:

      She is responding to one of the young high school girls from Australia.

      • error404 says:

        Oh. I had kinda assumed the tweet really said:

        “@Kikulette HATERS: (H)aving (A)nger (T)oward (E)veryone (R)eaching (S)uccess Love don’t hate! Give @Bethenny the props she deserves!”

        My bad

        • quincyil says:

          My first thought is she might take offense to this blog. I called her a Greek heroine and she might not like being the star of a Greek Tragedy with us as the Greek Chorus telling her story.

    • Whisper says:

      Doesn’t that nut job Gary Busey define words like this?
      Two peas in a pod.

    • FLG says:

      HATERS: (H)aving (A)nger (T)oward (E)veryone (R)eaching (S)uccess
      Oh dear sweet mother of gawd, Jill has gone all Gary Busey on us. Either the self induced personality transplant rejection or the pony tail/skweezey wear combination caused serious head injury. Call 911!

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Actually, Gary Busey did have an actual TBI. What’s Jill’s excuse?

        • FLG says:

          I know he did Mookiesmom. I should have stated “no offense to Gary Busey”. Thank you for pointing that out. As I told you before, Mookie has a smart Mom! To recover at all from a Traumatic Brain Injury is to be applauded. I am a spinal cord injury survivor myself. Thank you Miami Project for Paralysis! I am walking today because of your great surgical team. To Gary Busey – keep on keeping on! You’re situation has brought attention to and given hope to many!

          • Mookies1mom says:

            You make me blush when you say Mookie has a smart mom. Apparently, I have my moments from time to time. I guess I just remember back when I worked with people that survived their injuries and sometimes the tricks used to help their memory. Doesn’t mean he can’t get on people’s nerves though! I think he was kind out there before his injury and now we just see it more pronounced.

            Big time congratulations on your healing from a spinal cord injury! I can’t begin to imagine how difficult that must of been for you. Or the strength it took to get through that.

            Honestly, I was trying to be rude. It’s the whole it’s me not you thing. I really do mean that. Just having a bad day.

            • FLG says:

              Hey, I’m right there with you …I want to know what Jill’s excuse is, too!

              Regarding my recovery….I discovered that courage was easier to come by in the absence of options….

              • Mookies1mom says:

                Wow! I think I’m (almost) speechless. I’m sooo stealing that philosophy but I’ll totally give you the credit.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Sorry Mookie. I posted my comment before I read yours.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I mean Mookie’smom…

            Big difference. Ha!

            • Mookies1mom says:

              No problem! He just sleeps a lot more and would kick Ginger’s a@@ for making so much noise. He likes it quiet.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                I’m Max’s mom and he’s the same way. Sweet little angels!!! It’s Max’s house. I’m just living in it. 😉

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  Oh, I hear that! I’m allowed to use his blankie and have a little room in bed. You know it’s bad when your cat gets more room in your bed that you do! 😉

                  • kotagirl29 says:

                    I had to upgrade to a King size bed when I got the 4th dog because there was no room left for me. I tried to make them sleep on the floor, but that didn’t work because they would wait until I fell asleep then get on the bed anyway.

                    • ihearttalavera says:

                      Ha! Us too, Kota. We wake up with the weirdest aches and pains because we don’t dare disturb the dog and cat while they are sleeping so soundly. Too funny.

                  • ihearttalavera says:

                    Us too! The cat and dog get comfy, and we try to make ourselves comfy around them. They are too cute to resist. We do need to follow kota’s lead though and get a king size bed. Our queen is getting crowded!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Now she’s stealing quotes from Gary Busey?

  41. cabbie413 says:

    Jill just defined herself. ..the irony! lol

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I think this same thing about all of her comments.

      It’s like she spends time in therapy, gets diagnosed, and then accuses everyone else of her own behaviors.

      It kind of reminds me of the school yard saying, “I’m the rubber, you’re the glue, whatever you say bounces off me, and sticks to you.” I can totally hear her saying that along with, “I did not!” and “Just because you say it that doesn’t make it true!” Enough with the ‘snappy’ comebacks. For the love of God, enough. Go to sleep! Go to sleep!

  42. Smompy says:

    “It’s my theory that all the people involved would talk beforehand so that filming can go on and still fit in with the wedding.”

    The problem with this theory is that it’s based on sound logic, and most of our lovely housewives don’t know from logic. Although there’s no doubt that some of them do discuss with each other what’s going to be filmed before it happens, it’s pretty obvious they don’t all do it all the time. Every one of them has been surprised (on camera) mulitple times, by being thrown into a situation they didn’t foresee, or forced to deal with a person they didn’t realize would be around. By this point in time, they each MUST know that they will never be fully informed about every shoot ahead of time. That’s why Jill’z “I was ambushed” bullshit is so especially annoying. This was not your first time at the Rodeo, Jill, don’t be such a lying scumbag.

    And on a dumbness tangent, I was bouncing around youtube earlier and found a video (ostensibly) about JZ’s new “shapewear” line. I think it was called “Jill Zarin Skweez Couture.” I clicked on it because I was genuinely interested in seeing what she’s selling now – I haven’t seen any of her stuff, except for that Madonna-wannabe bustier from WWHL – but in typical JZ fashion, the video contains absolutely no information about her product. It’s just a montage of clps and images of Jill’s “accomplishments,” such as her appearing on the Sean Hannity show once, being the covergirl for Arthritis Monthly magazine, hamming it up in front of various cameras at other people’s events, etc. There are also a few blips of her saying nice things about herself, but no “Skweez Couture” at all. WTF? Why talk up a new product and then totally ignore that product in its advertisements? I mean, I know this bitch isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, but how could even she be THAT stupid? I suppose it’s probably just another instance of her ego getting in the way of common sense?

    • boston02127 says:

      Cuz Jill is L-A-Z-Y. (and dumb)

    • error404 says:

      Team Blonde use their fame to make more money.

      Team Brunette uses their products as a way to gain more fame.

    • lillybee says:

      Jill thinks that her star power is enough to sell anything so why bother with featuring the products.

    • Kelly Anne says:

      Funny you mention this Skweez Couture nonsense as my husband works for Macy’s as our store’s inventory manager and he told me that he has heard that Jill is begging and pleading with the Executives to sell her line. Apparently the cost is way above average to do so as they already have other types of similar lines. But supposedly Jill (meaning Bobby) threw money at them to reinvent initiatives to sell the line. It is just sad that Jill considers that “hard work”…

      • Happymouth says:

        Very Interesting !

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        I’m waiting for the promo – buy my girdle and I will sent you a free moldy book, buy multiple pieces of my girdles and I will autograph a copy of my book……

  43. housewifeaddict says:

    I am almost looking forward to what Lisa New England blogs for this episode. He/she has been very quiet. Perhaps they’ve thrown their hands up in the air and surrendered about trying to make lemons out of lemonade.

    Alls I knows is that he/she had better monitor comments – ’cause they’ll be plenty.

    • FLG says:

      Durwood has been too busy posting links all over the internet to Jill’s website and hasn’t had time to work on the blog.

      • FLG says:

        hidden links that is….

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Secret special hidden links.

          I posted this a couple of days ago – but it’s work reposting since it shows JZ’s interns/spammers getting busted:


          • quincyil says:

            I copied the link and sent it to Lynn’s email. We have one of those on the board, but I left it because people commented that it was Jill doing this. We always leave the calling cards of Bravo stars on the board.

            It was interesting that they mention this site.

            I bet Jill knows about robots that vote from her team of spam commenters on blog sites.

            I think it’s interesting that the link used is “I Hate Jill Zarin.” She is advertising Lynn at the same time she is trying to get hits.

            Earlier today, I thought the H A T E R S post from Jill probably meant nothing, but I bet she did read this blog and she might be reacting.

            In the past she would react on twitter telling people to go to good blogs and not us.

            • Maria says:

              They’re not advertising for Lynn, they’re trying to associate the words “i hate jill zarin” with her website rather than this website. That’s why they use the term and then link to Jill’s site instead. It’s a form of search engine optimization (SEO). As I say in my article, googling “jill zarin” does bring up jill’s own website as the #1 result, but googling “i hate jill zarin” brings up this website instead, so her people are trying to change that by creating more links.

              Anyway, it’s totally bogus and they even tried to comment again. But it’s a completely fake comment. I work in marketing/PR for an online retailer so.. I know a thing or two.

              • quincyil says:

                I think we had both the simple link and comment here too. Commenters left their message not to hit so I didn’t bother with them.

              • quincyil says:

                You are welcome to leave links on this board to your site. Lots of bloggers do and they are welcome.

                Fellow board members, you can hit on her blue name for the link now.


              • housewifeaddict says:

                I really loved your blog 🙂 It totally cracked me up that you “outed” Jill or her interns!

          • AZ Girl says:

            $25.00 per hour! I have two kids in college. Maybe I should contact Jill. I will delete 1 comment per hour or two….

  44. cabbie413 says:

    do you guys remember tweetmaxine? She was the “lady” who incorrectly announced Bryn’s birth and Jill retweeted it. If i recall, she and Jill were buddy buddy lol Now i notice that her twitter ID is gone. I wonder where she’s lurking these days (lisanewengland?)

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I thought she was just a random shit stirrer who completely made things up.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      IDK, but I was on a site a few days ago and someone was pretty upset with her. I can’t remember what site I was on, but they were blasting tweetmaxine for sure.

      • cabbie413 says:

        i wonder what her twitter name is now.. it’s no longer there, it was erased last year i guess

  45. Furalis says:

    OK – Have to get ready for skinny girl time tonight. Everyone have a wonderful evening!

  46. cabbie413 says:

    I have a little treat for you guys!! Guess who!!!!??

    • kotagirl29 says:


      • cabbie413 says:

        yesss dahling.. lol she looks older in this picture and it was probably taken 20-25 years ago!

        Marrying money did her well. Hanging up that uniform and having everyone else do things for you must reverse the aging process lol

        • Nancy says:

          But it won’t be hanging up for long. As soon as those child support checks stop coming…
          LPN’s make around $35k/yr.
          Hope to be working “with” you one day LuMan.

    • lillybee says:

      She really has aged well. I wonder how much work she has had done.

    • cabbie413 says:

      I hope Lynn and Quincy put this picture of her on the next blog front page! Ever since I saw this picture on Wendy Williams’ show, I have been looking all over the net for it! It’s been a week but I finally found it and copied it lol I’m sure Luann doesn’t see that younger (but old looking) Luann when she looks in the mirror everyday. She’s so above and beyond it all now Dahlings…

      • quincyil says:

        I saved the photo on my computer and sent it to Lynn.

        I don’t usually write about the housewives on the blog. Lynn does. I wrote tomorrows blog and Luann isn’t in it. It’s all about Sonja.

        • Nancy says:

          NJ Housewives is on right now and the famous
          fashion show is coming up. Who would have thought the word “Foreclosure” would have started that circus.
          What I don’t understand is Bravo had no problem airing that so why not “Scary Island”? What do you think happend? Teressa (to me) seemed way more out of control than Kelly did. Strange. I hope one day we will find out

          • quincyil says:

            I went to the tv to hit record.

            I don’t think they will show us more of scary island, but Alex is writing a novel with fictional reality stars so we can looke forward to the chapter on Terrifying Archipelago.

    • FLG says:

      Wow, title-less and squash blossom-less!

  47. jeepers1941 says:

    BravoMaxine Tweet Maxine
    Countess almost got thrown into CONTEMPT OF COURT when she demanded Judge call her “Countess”. Angry Judge told “Mrs. Delesseps” to be quiet

  48. La Dolce Vita says:

    Oh wonderful….. you found her OLD nursing photo. Doesn’t look like “our proper contessa today.” I am so put off by her and her “airs” that I could puke. Miss proper had the audascity to loudly confront Ramona at her opening event about the wine’s provenence. A few questions would have been OK, but oh no, she had to show off her”knowledge” gleened from her toyboy. Most of the answers are printed on the bottle label. She was showing off. Lu adds no value to the NYHW’s. She is trying to make herself relevant by nasty comments and supporting Jill. I do wonder what will happen to her when the show is cancelled. No job, income will be less when the kids are 18, and no rich husband on the horizon. She is definitely slated for a downturn. HeHE. Such a phony; on WWHL she was ^%$%#@#@, my words deleted by me.
    Paraphrasing, “I hung around with royalty for 16 years.” Yeh! Low rung, bought title types.

    Ramona’s Pinot G: I like R. she is a breath of fresh air on this stupid show that I watch. She should KNOW every fact about the production of her wine. Pronouncing the Veneto incorrectly and giving MISS PRISS an opening to correct her is inexcusable, and the grapes are not GROWN in Venice. It’s an impossibility… the NE part of the Veneto is most likely where the vinyards are located. She should have known this so that she could have put MISS PRISS in her rightful place. R missed a golden opportunity to shine.

    • FLG says:

      Ramona may not wish to disclose all the details about her wine. Ramona’s wine is “private label” and Jacques is an importer and could possibly be competition for the harvest. You never give away all your trade secrets if you want to stay in business. Ramona likes to stay in business. The Countess Squash Blossom High Horse was being her usual nosy self. Ramona did tell her that she would be willing to discuss it later. LuAnn should have taken the hint, but we all know it takes a 2X4 on the side of her less than noble head for LuAnn to get the message!

  49. cabbie413 says:

    latest tweet from Cat!!!

    catommanney Catherine Ommanney
    I’m thinking about moving to NYC……I might have to toss a coin,as can’t make up my mind!!
    47 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    • Nancy says:

      Move over Jill Zarin and LuMan.
      This is going to be good!

    • AZ Girl says:


      • Arya Stark says:

        Someone needs to re-tweet that to Lulu. Give her heart failure.

        • cabbie413 says:

          lmao great idea!! Only thing is, I don’t think Luann actually does her twitter. By the way she talks about technology and not getting “the google alert” I don’t think she knows how to use twitter

    • quincyil says:

      We have a campaign here to get Cat O into NYC.

      I think I will write a campaign song, record myself singing it in the barn, and put it on you tube.

  50. Arya Stark says:

    OK, I KNEW I should have copied a post to this blog. There WAS a very negative to Jill post up on Bravo.


    It’s gone.

    Of course.

    SUCH BS!

    • jeepers1941 says:

      can u remember what it said?

      • jeepers1941 says:

        or the posters name?

        • Arya Stark says:

          OK, I do remember one thing. The post told her to get her friend Kelly (the EDITOR) to check her grammar. It specifically mentioned her use of “CAME” in the sentence about Australia.

          • error404 says:

            Submitted by Villette on May 13, 2011.
            Hi Jill! It’s good to see that you are participating in Bravo blogs again after a few disappearing acts last season. Have you ever heard the term “deja vu”? That sums up this viewer’s opinion on last night’s episode. Substitute Ramona for Bethenny and a party ending with another tearful phone call to your husband who must have the patience of a saint. Oh, and perhaps Kelly can utilize her “amazing” writing skills by editing your blogs for basic grammar. Example: You had “just CAME back” from Australia?

            • Arya Stark says:

              Yeah, my bad. I just posted it below too.

              Must read beyond the positive sounding first line!

    • La Dolce Vita says:

      When you see something like that, copy and paste it to anything… an email you send to yourself or into Word. Then you have it to repost here.

    • quincyil says:

      Yes, you have to grab them quickly. The bravottv interns are quick.

  51. Arya Stark says:

    I can’t remember! I was so surprised it was there. There were only 2, one Jill shill and one calling her out. Now there are 12 positive raves.


    • Arya Stark says:

      OK, I was wrong. Dang. Here it is, but I swear it “read” meaner the first time I saw it. My bad.

      Submitted by Villette on May 13, 2011.

      Hi Jill! It’s good to see that you are participating in Bravo blogs again after a few disappearing acts last season. Have you ever heard the term “deja vu”? That sums up this viewer’s opinion on last night’s episode. Substitute Ramona for Bethenny and a party ending with another tearful phone call to your husband who must have the patience of a saint. Oh, and perhaps Kelly can utilize her “amazing” writing skills by editing your blogs for basic grammar. Example: You had “just CAME back” from Australia?

  52. linda2148 says:

    This is the first time I have commented on this blog. I finally couldn’t stand the Jill, Kelly, LuAnn and Cindy blogs on Bravo anymore! Such crap and Bravo doesn’t ever publish any of my comments.
    I just ordered a case of Ramona’s pino grigio and I don’t even drink – much!!

    • error404 says:



      How much was the case. It’s $14.99 a bottle here. I didn’t ask about a case.

    • La Dolce Vita says:

      Linda> good for you. I only drink red wine, yet, I may buy some just to get R. ahead.

      I found this appropo & amusing discription of R’s wine: “Does it taste of despair and sadness, with notes of Botox and a soupçon of crazy? It comes out sometime in February. And as the website says: CHEERS!!”

      • linda2148 says:

        Jill’s nastiness and downright lies are forcing me to drink. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!!

        • Zoey says:

          Someone should tweet that to the twat, meaning Jill. Tell her how SHE is responsible for Ramona’s wine selling so well! She is driving people to drink!

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Welcome aboard!

  53. linda2148 says:

    $167.99 plus shipping & tax. I’m going to give bottles away as gifts or prizes! (When is Jill’s birthday? lol!!) I think there is one bottle that is signed by Ramona. I had to order it online because it’s not being sold retail anywhere in my state.

  54. jeepers1941 says:

    I just rec’d this in my e-mail, apparently it is awaiting approval to be posted on bravo blogs or something. I don’t know this person that sent it to me, said screen name is “pothole101” and that they knew I posted comments on Lynn’s blog site. I did leave my e-mail address on a site for a follow up about jz……..was I wrong to do that?
    here is what they said:

    come on bravo, take ur balls back and post the comments that are submitted, good or bad, and stop the editing of what is put in the comments. you guys are letting the real fans of this franchise down, and big time. just do ur damn job and let the chips fall where they may……………..

  55. La Dolce Vita says:

    I haven’t mentioned that I’ve been here since Lynn’s beginning tho I hardly ever post. Not enough time to read all the great stuff and also post. Today, I vegging and tabbing beween here and the u stream live cam of “decorah Eagles.” For any that are interested this is a live web cam of eaglets in Decorah, Iowa. It is one of the most interesting cams I have watched. From fluffy newborn babes to fat babes (at present). Sorry for the digress from the main focus of this page.

    • quincyil says:

      I love birds. I was walking in the middle of a huge clearing and there was a tiny blud egg in the grass. It made me sad because there was no nest or parents to keep it warm.

  56. WindyCityWondering says:

    Why is Jill making a big deal out of wedding gifts now? The bigger the gift the bigger an asshole you are allowed to be?

    • quincyil says:

      Jill has a thing about gifts. Bethenny said nothing is ever good enough. We saw her reaction to the car for a birthday. When buying a diamond watch, she wants a diamond ring too.

      I thought those koala clips were an odd gift for those women. I’m sure they ended up in a waste can in no time.

      • Kukulet says:

        I can buy those koala clips here in South Carolina. But I wasn’t all that surprised when Jill handed them out. They are as tacky and as cheap as she is.

    • Nancy says:

      I missed that. What about Jill and wedding gift’s?

  57. OneMoreInBoston says:

    I am a wicked bitch.
    bitch bitch

    That really wasn’t so hard.

    I wish Jill would just say”you know what f*ck this- I am a bitch and so what? suck it.” and then fire all the PR people that she doesn’t listen to anyway. And the take all that money Bawby was paying them and buy a Hermes Birkin bag monogrammed with BITCH.

    I would eagerly await RHONY instead of the snoozefest it has become if there was a bonafide, in your face, make you cry, steal your husband, nasty bi-otch decked out in amazing clothes ala the evil Alexis Carrington of Dynasty. Wouldn’t you?

    I mean really, was does Jill have to lose at this point?

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      *what* does Jill have to lose

      • La Dolce Vita says:

        Jill and Kelly do not watch the same videos that we see. Lu doesn’t watch anything.

        Kelly had a “great year” last year according to her on WWHL.

        & Jill, what can I say…… total denial of the recorded facts. She is such an a$$hole… didn’t know I could speak French.

      • linda2148 says:

        She would lose her sanity! Jill sees herself as “good” in whatever magic mirror she sees her reflection in.
        Mirror, mirror on the wall. Who’s the nicest most popular Bravo New York Housewife of all?

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Oh, onemore. How I love you so… I actually followed you to another blog because I missed you, but was too lazy to post. Thanks for the Saturday afternoon laugh, girl!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I would love to see Jill Zarin accep the mantel of bitchdom that she has rightfully earned. As some love the underdog, others will love the villain – if Jill would own her nastiness, jealousy and lies then she would gain some fans -outside her family members.

    • Nancy says:

      All we need is a swimming pool. Remember that scene from Dynasty?

    • error404 says:

      Alexis always owned her bitch mantle. Jill doesn’t own anything. She actually fancies herself to be Krystal. And in a way she is. I always found Krystal awfully smug for a husband-stealing, boss-shagging, secretary.

  58. butterisafruit says:

    TMZ had Bethany Frankel on tonight. I love TMZ it never fails to entertain me. Well Harvey did not know who she was and all the girls in the press room gave information. They were so excited it was cute. Then they did a recap all the reality shows, her books, Skinnygirl and marketing to the liqour industry. HE was impressed.

    Hmmm they didn’t have anything on Kelly. I’m shocked.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Kelly is such a nonevent. She should just stay home and raise her girls. I have a hard time believing it, but everybody seems to say that she is doing that well.

  59. Kukulet says:

    BTW, one of Jill’s shills posted a comment on an old blog post of mine at “Kelly Is Loco” with the hidden link to Jill’s website. I deleted it, but hey, if you see these, don’t click on the link. No need to feed her ego by raising the hits on her website.

    For those who may have missed the earlier link: http://tvontherocks.com/2011/05/jill-zarin-and-her-comment-shill/

    Jill is such an idiot. With all the time and effort she puts into the Internet, the woman clearly has no life.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      this is truly hilarious. Oh Jillzy- the money you would save if you just owned up to your inner SuperBitch.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Jill Zarin is truely the gift that keeps on giving. This is this seasons online version of Amazon gate.

  60. Troller says:

    LMAO, See I\’ m not such a bad troller after all now is I? .Lookie what I foundzie . Got to admit Jilly is sneaky. Sorry Lynno, your not the #1 Google result for IhateJillZarin no more. Maye she fired her old PR? I can see that show Spin Croud being responsible for this.
    Thank TVONTHEROCKS.com for this one.

    Sorry must got, have to go trQQling on the websites.

    The Troll

    • Cusi77 says:


      Could you please remove this post? I do not recommend anyone to click in that link!!!!!!!! Please!

      • quincyil says:

        I checked my Norton and took the link. It goes to a blogger who posted about with information about Jill Zarin’s marketing ploys. I told Maria, that blogger, that she can leave links on the board when she has an interesting blog as others do. Lynn encourages people who comment here to share their work.

        The other comments are this person’s opinions.


    • Kukulet says:

      Sorry Lynno, your not the #1 Google result for IhateJillZarin no more.

      Lynn is still the #1 result for “I Hate Jill Zarin” as of five seconds ago. The article you cited says the shills COULD drive down Lynn’s rating, not that they HAVE.

      Jeez, Google is easy to use. Maybe you should have tried checking it out first.

      • Cusi77 says:

        Lol Kukulet!

        • vilzvet says:

          Yes I did the same experiment just now and the top FOUR were Lynn’s blogs and the fifth was a Facebook site totally dedicated to hating Jill AND LuAnn! Double whammy of fun. So no worries…

  61. Troller says:

    OOPSI I mean

    The Nice Troll

  62. Troller \'QQ\' says:

    Darling, it\’s something that Jill did. She made it so if you search \”Ihate Jill Zarin\” Her site comes up instead of this site. Just because you don\’t recommend it, don\’t mean everyone else won\’t catch on to Jills cons. I am trying to put a funny spin on Trollers by calling my self that. It\’s not about you. Please get over your self.

    • Kukulet says:

      What is with your freaky use of slashes?

      • Troller \\\\\\\'QQ\\\\\\\' says:

        I don\’t know, Evertyime I use an \’ apostrophe they come up as slashes see,

        \’ \’ \’ Weird.

      • Troller \\\\\\\'QQ\\\\\\\' says:

        No, your the one who mustbe out. Lynn know\’s who I am.
        In other words, if people are going to troll, at least do something good instead of just stopping by to start trouble. I was showing her a link of one of jill\’s stunts to try to take Lynn off google when the search term I hate jill zarin comes in. That is how she gotove 50% of her readers. When I saw the link at first, Jill\’s site was first.
        So, be rude all you want, at the end of the day, it\’s not about YOU OR CUSI77.
        No one is forcing or asking to stay here and play Blog Warden.
        Have a nice night, get your panties out your azz.
        Lynn, email me when you get back. I have the one address, but not sure if you are checking that one or the other. Hope you had fun on your project and can\’t wait to hear all about it.

      • Troller \\\\\\\'QQ\\\\\\\' says:

        No, your the one who mustbe out. Lynn know\’s who I am.
        In other words, if people are going to troll, at least do something good instead of just stopping by to start trouble. I was showing her a link of one of jill\’s stunts to try to take Lynn off google when the search term I hate jill zarin comes in. That is how she got over 50% of her readers. When I saw the link at first, Jill\’s site was first.
        So, be rude all you want, at the end of the day, it\’s not about YOU OR CUSI77.
        No one is forcing or asking to stay here and play Blog Warden.
        Have a nice night, get your panties out your azz.
        Lynn, email me when you get back. I have the one address, but not sure if you are checking that one or the other. Hope you had fun on your project and can\’t wait to hear all about it.

      • Troller QQ says:

        Pass this link to lynn, ask her if this is the series she meant. I know she wasn\’t talking about the Jimmy F. one. Only other series I can think of.

        • quincyil says:

          I printed it and put it in the pocket on the leg of a carrier pigeon. She should get the message Mon. moring. The birds use the westerly winds to help them make good time on the 300 mile trip.

  63. Troller \'QQ\' says:

    Oh, Kukulet posted it also. Sorry Dear, wasn\’t trrying to take away the hero staus from you. About 5 minutes ago Lynn wasn\’t the #1 search. We can argue all day, bottom line is Jill went to another level to out do her self on previous pathetic attempts to get her self the fame she wants.
    Funny how KuKu says smething negative then say Oh by the way, this was posted ON MY site.
    OMG, look at your selves. Get over your selves. WTF is wrong with you.

  64. cabbie413 says:

    haha bravomaxine retweeted me..how fun

  65. Troller \\\'QQ\\\' says:

    Hey numb nuck, it\’s teh same link KuKu posted. MYOB!

  66. kitkat says:

    all of a sudden, I am getting the feeling that this is becoming staged. The above comments put that seed in my mind. They ARE friends backstage at “Ellen” and “The View”. Nobody reports that they are snubbing each other or fighting in restaurants when it’s the off season…maybe this has really become “a job.” They don’t want to be boring on TV – a sin! – so they play fight with each other…and plus, they probably aren’t fond of each other anyway so it’s not difficult to start a fight. Kind of like the defense and prosecution lawyers…they go at each other in court with gusto, then play golf together next Wednesday.

    • quincyil says:

      Bethenny said that they have little contact in off season. The aren’t friends that’s for sure.

      Didn’t Sonja say that she hadn’t seen Ramona in years?

  67. boston02127 says:


    • Happymouth says:


    • Nancy says:

      Good thing too. I had nothing planned after my AA meting!

      • quincyil says:

        I used to go to WW meetings and I tried to grocery shop right afterwards because the teacher was very motivating and I listened to her.

      • boston02127 says:

        @Nancy—My b/f is so into the Bruins. Naked Victoria Secret models could do a home invasion here and he probably wouldn’t notice. 🙂

        • vilzvet says:

          Tell him I really used to like Ray Bourque from back in the day.

          • boston02127 says:

            @vilzvet–I did, he said he’s got a card with R.B. pic on it. Like a baseball card only NHL. He’s a hockey fanatic. I like the B’s too.

            • vilzvet says:

              Cool! I was sure he would know him anyway…he is definitely one of their all-time best players. I did not know he hadn’t won a Stanley Cup until he LEFT Boston for another team, unreal. At least he got one.

        • Nancy says:

          What does this have to do with an AA meeting?
          Are you going “Al Sharpton” on me?

          • boston02127 says:

            @Nancy–Nothing. I just thought you meant you were bored and so was I watching the game tonight.

            • Nancy says:

              Now I get it, sorry. My dad was a NHL ref.
              Did all the home games for the LA Kings.
              I miss going to the games. Don’t worry I won’t knock on your door wearing my new nighty. ha ha

    • jeang says:

      Lets break out the Skinnygirls margaritas and Ramona Pinot Gregios y’all. BTW Ally the apostrophe is located above the slash on your keyboard.

  68. TEB2350 says:

    It’s been a while since I’ve been on here regularly- hope all are well!! I see we have lots of new names, I miss seeing some old names. It’s still just as chuckle-worthy as I remember. 🙂

    • quincyil says:

      Lynn has an exclusive interview with Cat Ommanney so go throught the list of blogs. I think you will enjoy them.

    • boston02127 says:

      Nice to see you back TEB. 🙂

      • TEB2350 says:

        Lovely Boston- So nice to see you are still here!!! And Q- I will definitely try and catch up on the old blogs. I have to figure out who the trolls are (at least the less obvious ones ;-))

  69. boston02127 says:

    The gift that keeps on giving.
    Jill’s tweet~~~~
    Here is my extended episode 6 blog http://jillzarin.com/2011/05/14/jill-zarin-episode-6-extended-blog/

  70. boston02127 says:

    Jill may be reading the blog. Earlier I dissed her bedding line. She recently tweeted this:

    So excited to see my bedding in bed bath beyond on 1st and 61st! Looks amazing http://twitpic.com/4xo3fv

    • quincyil says:

      I also said her bedding was not in our store and that is true.

      I really don’t think New Yorkers rush out to purchase the Jill Zarin line of bedding simply because her name is on it. Luann probably doesn’t have Jill Zarin’s line in either of her two homes.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      That’s suppose to be BB&Y? It looks more like the store room from Zarin Fabrics.

    • LOL….That’s hilarious! Jill hasn’t mentioned that bedding line in a couple of months. She has been promoting her girdles and the book. She must have stopped by today.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I just went bedding shopping at BB&B. I’ve got to admit I didn’t seen any sign of JZs bedding – although I didn’t check out the clearance rack. Our market isn’t a major one so I doubt they carry it.

      • Kelly Anne says:

        Her bedding line is on a big display at our BB&B in New Orleans, which is a relatively medium-sized market. Her step-son went to college in New Orleans so the Zarins are known around the city.

        • error404 says:

          How? was he a football hero or something? of all the famous people who went to Tulane, why would people bother talking about the Zarins?

          • Kelly Anne says:

            Because they did donate quite a bit to the school and Katrina relief. But I also think Jill wants donate to anything and everything to meet people who run in high social circles.

            • error404 says:


              I bet they get a lot of press bang for their buck. They must have more than $35 mil. I’d gotten the impression they were kinda tight. I didn’t think they had like Wilf type money, or is more a new bench for the park?

              • Kelly Anne says:

                Definitely bench for the park type. They give what they can but not mega bucks.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I lived there and wasn’t a huge fan of the place. This could explain why. Thanks for clearing this up for me.

        • Zoey says:

          Really? I’ve never heard of them mentioned in New Orleans.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Uh-oh. Sorry Zoey. I grew up on the West Coast. The heat and humidity did me in. So not used to it. LOVED the food though. 🙂

          • Candace says:

            No, they are not famous in New Orleans by any stretch of the imagination. But I have heard their name mentioned around town when I go to charity events or fundraisers associated with Tulane. They aren’t major donors, but I think they give enough to be mentioned.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I’m not even in a big city – I think the term is suburban city?? We’re lucky to even have a BB&B.

    • Nancy says:

      That has to be the ugliest bedding I’ve ever seen.

  71. error404 says:

    It’s pretty funny because I just googled “I hate Jill Zarin” and her site is nowhere to be found on the first 12 pages of results, so I guess they have a lot more work to do to get to #1.

    Anywho, I found this one on Beekman 1802 to be kinda funny:
    all the comments are negative except the two her minions placed with the fake links. LOL She really is VERY unpopular! Loved the one about her calling Polka Spot fat though.

    • quincyil says:

      Jill has a lot of twitter fans, but I don’t know if they like her or just want to follow her because she is famous.

    • boston02127 says:

      Eww, I hate seeing JZ on the B’s site. Run Josh & Brent run. Get away from her please.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      I think it depends on the search engine. Yahoo is my home page and if you search for I Hate Jill Zarin on yahoo Shill’s website is first followed by Lynn’s site twice and then a mess of sites mentioning JZ and hate and honorable mentions for this site. If you change to I Hate Jill Zarin blog, this site is first followed by Shill’s.

  72. error404 says:

    Having another Ramoner pinot tonight. I guess she’s making us into alkies too! The power of TV. It’s much better properly chilled.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Just don’t go all Pinot on us!

    • quincyil says:

      I can’t drink alcohol as I get migraines and I am not a fan of pain.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        I feel your pain! Literally! Had my first one when I was three. There are times that I know I can’t have a glass of wine because it will trigger one.

    • lillybee says:

      Enjoy it.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I don’t even like white wine and I’m on the hunt for Ramona’s pinot. I also have some of Bethenny’s camisoles sitting on my dresser and two bottles of SGM in the liquor cabinet. Apparently I’m a sucker for reality show infomercials!

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I might get me one of those fake booties B sells. LOL

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I want some too! That scene with B wearing one on BEA was so hysterical. My husband laughs, but I think he would like it. Jason did!

  73. Arya Stark says:

    I’ve actually been here from the beginning. I just change poster names and don’t use real email addresses because I had stalkers from Jill’s camp for far too long. It got worse when I accidentally posted something on Jill’s site.

    She’s batshit. Anyway, since switching up names here and there where ever I post, I haven’t had the same issues. So, call me paranoid, but these is just easier for me.

    • Arya Stark says:

      “this” not “these” GOSH.

      Also, it’s possible she tracked me around from Amazon, but whatever. New names when I post have made life easier for me, and no more virus issues on my computer either. One of her employees or “superfans” was playing some nasty games. IMO of course, can’t prove anything, don’t want to, certainly don’t want details out there, so take that for what it is.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        That’s not fun. People always talk about some sites “collecting” IP addresses. I only comment here, at RCH and ROH where I feel safe.

        • Arya Stark says:

          Yeah, I totally trust Lynn, but just got sick of being the target, and one nut was calling me the name I originally used here…so I switch it up.

          I don’t care if Lynn knows who I am, but hackers are hackers and nothing on the internet is ever really safe. Heh, probably shouldn’t have even posted that! Time for a new name! ooopsie

          • quincyil says:

            I only post her, but I enjoy read the blogs of a few people who stop by here.

            I notice that some big sites have comment sections, but they are empty months later. I guess no one takes the time to register.

  74. housewifeaddict says:

    Nothing yet from Lisa. He/she is probably busy monitoring Jillosy’s fb for comments. At $25/hour that’s a sweet gig.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      i just checked. she posted her extended blog 2 hours ago – and only 19 comments so far. lots of pruning going on.

      • quincyil says:

        Lisa or Jill. I think you mean Jill. I am sure all of the comments are moderated these days.

        If I have something to say, I will say it here.

      • FLG says:

        Maybe Cindy and her many staff members are branching out and doing blogscaping.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Just checked LuLu’s fb page. She allows negative comments to stay. Good for her!

  75. Candace says:

    I’m pretty sure “Countess” Luann edits her own wikipedia page….

    • FLG says:

      Her RHONY wikipedia bio is quite similar, but does mention that there were accusations of cheating, alcohol and drug use aimed at both the Count and the Countess. I don’t think LuAnn should be pointing many fingers at any of her castmates. LuAnn’s living in a pretty large fragile glass house.

  76. jeang says:

    I dont care enough about Luman to even try to read hers much less waste the energy to post anything to her. She is nothing, a nobody just like Krazy and Cindy.

  77. Christine says:

    I was watching the Weather Channel today as we were under a severe thunderstorm watch. The reporters were talking about the release of the Morganza Spillway in Louisiana. Now I know that many of you have been affected by the terrible floods around the Mississippi River and this story just ripped at everything human inside of me. I cannot begin to imagine how completely devastated these people and those who suffered through the recent rash of tornadoes feel, but I believe their grief and sense of loss is beyond comprehension.
    I also looked at Twitter and Facebook today and found something that made me dislike 90% of these women even more. Not one single word about these events from any of them. Oh they are happily shopping at Saks, going to their wine tastings, spending their weekends in the Hamptons, St. Croix, Palm Beach, and east bum-fuck. The only Housewives who have had anything to say about anything but themselves have been Cat and Alex (as far as I can recall). I have even seen pics of Alex and the chums helping to clean up Central Park – actually getting dirty. Kelly writes about how important Manolo Blahnik and all of them love to drop the names of their designer shoes, dresses and handbags.
    They are nothing like the other 290,000,000 of us who live out here between LA and NY – our beloved flyover States.
    Would it kill them, just once, to post information on how to donate $10 to the Red Cross? Could they take the proceeds from their ebay sales of dresses they wear only once and hand it to a family who consider themselves lucky to find a photo album in the ruins of their home? Could they volunteer an hour or two to hand out bottles of water in Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, Vicksburg or NOLA? Jill can find a private jet to further spoil a weekend on Scary Island. Kelly can visit Vegas to host her own drunken b’day party. They can renew themselves, va-jazzle themselves and have liquid facelifts. But not one well manicured nail ever gets broken or dirty.
    I really don’t get these women and I hope for my own sake that I never come to understand this type of self-absorption and narcissism.
    Thanks for listening dear people, and I know that all of you understand.

  78. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    final thought please get alex and simon a nice happy show of thier own
    and give this dead horse the burial it so desperately needs

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